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Title: Converting a Crocodile!
Post by: andy.t.south on July 14, 2014, 10:56:19 AM
Hi have recently read C6250's excellent tutorial on converting a Del Prado to motorised,it got me thinking about my own crocodile for conversion.This is one of my all time favourite locos but so far the cheapest one I have found is £135 secondhand on fleabay! So as there are a lot of said Del Prados out there I was wondering if anybody has converted one,or can give me ideas as to a suitable chassis motor combination. Photos of said animal should be below now I can post them! (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/thumb_13899.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=13899)         (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/thumb_13900.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=13900)     (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/thumb_13902.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=13902)           (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/thumb_13903.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=13903)           (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/thumb_13904.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=13904)
Title: Re: Converting a Crocodile!
Post by: joe cassidy on July 14, 2014, 11:54:02 AM
The Del Prado croc looks a bit short to me compared with the Kitmaster one ?

Best regards,


Joe
Title: Re: Converting a Crocodile!
Post by: andy.t.south on July 14, 2014, 12:05:16 PM
Good point Joe I hadn't realised it was that far out can we cut and extend loco like I did with the 1:50 trucks I played with guess so but tricky with all that detail.  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Converting a Crocodile!
Post by: joe cassidy on July 14, 2014, 12:21:22 PM
It seems that there are several crocs.

Here is one with 2 pantographs :

http://www.google.fr/imgres?imgurl=http://forum.e-train.fr/album_mod/upload/1f5086f62a74cb5a1edf63ce9f3f7b4d.jpg&imgrefurl=http://forum.e-train.fr/viewtopic.php?f%3D2%26t%3D10357%26start%3D30&h=480&w=640&tbnid=hXzGEodIbmGrRM:&zoom=1&q=lemaco+krokodil&tbnh=90&tbnw=120&usg=__WJLBJKZL3DRDJA5SRHNxquEiWDs=&docid=CeZYVZ_LeYa2_M&itg=1&sa=X&ei=8LvDU9DAHs-c0wXrmIDwBQ&ved=0CCUQ9QEwAQ&dur=366 (http://www.google.fr/imgres?imgurl=http://forum.e-train.fr/album_mod/upload/1f5086f62a74cb5a1edf63ce9f3f7b4d.jpg&imgrefurl=http://forum.e-train.fr/viewtopic.php?f%3D2%26t%3D10357%26start%3D30&h=480&w=640&tbnid=hXzGEodIbmGrRM:&zoom=1&q=lemaco+krokodil&tbnh=90&tbnw=120&usg=__WJLBJKZL3DRDJA5SRHNxquEiWDs=&docid=CeZYVZ_LeYa2_M&itg=1&sa=X&ei=8LvDU9DAHs-c0wXrmIDwBQ&ved=0CCUQ9QEwAQ&dur=366)

This looks like the Del Prado model, but with only one panto :

http://www.google.fr/imgres?imgurl=http://pics.ricardostatic.ch/2_729863502_Big/trains-electriques-et-access/sbb-de-6-6-nr-15302-seetal-krokodil.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.fr.ricardo.ch/acheter/modelisme-et-hobby/trains-electriques-et-access/echelle-n/locomotives/autres/sbb-de-6-6-nr-15302-seetal-krokodil/v/an729863502/&h=399&w=600&tbnid=bGfJ6A7i7MxGoM:&zoom=1&q=lemaco+krokodil&tbnh=97&tbnw=146&usg=__BqaTO-i9kDTeDPrHq3WaFmDDzB8=&docid=DCLlRB8bPhTJaM&itg=1&sa=X&ei=8LvDU9DAHs-c0wXrmIDwBQ&ved=0CCIQ9QEwAA&dur=433 (http://www.google.fr/imgres?imgurl=http://pics.ricardostatic.ch/2_729863502_Big/trains-electriques-et-access/sbb-de-6-6-nr-15302-seetal-krokodil.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.fr.ricardo.ch/acheter/modelisme-et-hobby/trains-electriques-et-access/echelle-n/locomotives/autres/sbb-de-6-6-nr-15302-seetal-krokodil/v/an729863502/&h=399&w=600&tbnid=bGfJ6A7i7MxGoM:&zoom=1&q=lemaco+krokodil&tbnh=97&tbnw=146&usg=__BqaTO-i9kDTeDPrHq3WaFmDDzB8=&docid=DCLlRB8bPhTJaM&itg=1&sa=X&ei=8LvDU9DAHs-c0wXrmIDwBQ&ved=0CCIQ9QEwAA&dur=433)

Best regards,


Joe
Title: Re: Converting a Crocodile!
Post by: andy.t.south on July 14, 2014, 12:37:18 PM
Thanks for that Joe yes there are many different types even narrow  gauge most of which I believe are in preservation the one I want is the long nosed twin pantograph one so guess it's bite the bullet no pints for a month or two and save the pocket money time!! All the best Andy.   :unimpressed:
Title: Re: Converting a Crocodile!
Post by: upnick on July 14, 2014, 12:52:17 PM
Have a look  at this chart Andy to find a power chassis suitable for  your loco   possibly.

http://tinyurl.com/3km25nh (http://tinyurl.com/3km25nh)
Title: Re: Converting a Crocodile!
Post by: andy.t.south on July 14, 2014, 01:15:48 PM
Nice one Upnick that will come in very handy think the chances of finding a match are fading as Joe said it is undersized it was a nice idea but not going to shelve it yet!  :)
Title: Re: Converting a Crocodile!
Post by: Chatty on July 14, 2014, 01:43:10 PM
This is a model of the Rhätische Bahn (RhB) Crocodile.

The RhB has 5 (I think) preserved and occasional takes them out for a gallop in regular service.

I personally have a very very soft spot for the RhB and this is a link to their Crocodile:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhaetian_Railway_Ge_6/6_I (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhaetian_Railway_Ge_6/6_I)

And this a link to a very nice model by Bemo.  I have 4 :-

http://www.bemo-modellbahn.de/produkte/schweizer-bahnen-h0m.html?tx_userbemocatalogue_rubriclist (http://www.bemo-modellbahn.de/produkte/schweizer-bahnen-h0m.html?tx_userbemocatalogue_rubriclist)[item]=92&tx_userbemocatalogue_rubriclist[action]=show&tx_userbemocatalogue_rubriclist[controller]=Item&cHash=f492d37

Kind regards

Geoff
Title: Re: Converting a Crocodile!
Post by: andy.t.south on July 14, 2014, 03:01:40 PM
Hi Geoff,great links looking at the bemo's I could see flexi friend being bent double there and not just on croc's!!Nice to know I am not alone in my love for these lovely locos spent a lot of my early childhood travelling on steam and electric in post war Europe sitting on Lille Ulm,Aachen, Basel,Innsbruck and Salzburg stations to name but a few, watching these amazing trains that made ours look like n gauge!!! Cheers.Andy.   :beers: