A few years ago I bought a crimson & cream Graham Farish BR Mk1 Restaurant First Open coach (running number M4/part number 374-802).
The coach was supplied without any interior. I seem to remember that it was Farish's intention to provide these coaches with interior fittings, but as these were not available the coaches were supplied without. However, Farish "promised" to supply the interiors to all purchasers free of charge when available.
Did anyone ever receive their interior for this Mk1 RFO ?
Best regards,
Joe
Joe,
I don't believe the interiors were every produced, the RFO, RU and the CK arrived without them and despite promises they never appeared.
I was going to build some CK interiors but have now retired them as the later produced versions are so much better.
Regards
Tony
My Green RFO S9 (374-809) has an interior, whereas its predecessor (374-803A) doesn't; so it looks like if you want an interior in your RFO you'll have to shell out on the latest Blue Riband version (374-807).
Quote from: joe cassidy on July 13, 2014, 08:59:03 PM
A few years ago I bought a crimson & cream Graham Farish BR Mk1 Restaurant First Open coach (running number M4/part number 374-802).
The coach was supplied without any interior. I seem to remember that it was Farish's intention to provide these coaches with interior fittings, but as these were not available the coaches were supplied without. However, Farish "promised" to supply the interiors to all purchasers free of charge when available.
Did anyone ever receive their interior for this Mk1 RFO ?
Best regards,
Joe
I read this in the model press in 2005 or 2006 when when the first batch of BSK's & CK's came out without interiors, but have seen nothing since. I did mention to the Bachmann rep on their stand at York, but he had no knowledge of it.
Over the years I have got used to the lack of interiors. A pity though as I have some to sell off as surplus to requirements.
Dodger
Thanks for all the replies.
I had the same experience with the Prototype Models card Kit for the LNWR north lights engine shed kit that I bought 18 years ago.
This was supposed to include a white metal pillar to support the lintel above the doors. There was a slip of paper inside the bag explaining that this was out of stock but would eventually be supplied to all purchasers.
To quote Diana Ross :
"I'm still waiting..........."
Best regards,
Joe
I did a pattern for 'print-your-own' interiors for the Farish CK & BSK. They're still on the website at http://www.tpmodels.co.uk/Farish_interiors.jpg (http://www.tpmodels.co.uk/Farish_interiors.jpg)
Oddly they did two new interiors for the TSO and FK, but then gave up!
Quote from: BernardTPM on July 14, 2014, 02:14:00 PM
I did a pattern for 'print-your-own' interiors for the Farish CK & BSK. They're still on the website at http://www.tpmodels.co.uk/Farish_interiors.jpg (http://www.tpmodels.co.uk/Farish_interiors.jpg)
Oddly they did two new interiors for the TSO and FK, but then gave up!
And very useful they were, Bernard. :thumbsup:
Most of my older carriages have these inserts, and some were even kitbashed for SKs, FKs and BCKs. :)
Resurrecting this thread to ask if anyone knows of an interior kit for the RFO/RU that may have come out in the past year or so?
I used the mk2 fo seat set for the rfo. These are available from brlines and n gauge society. I think I had an rfu kit from tpm just checked on line and appears to be no longer instock.Graham
Thanks. Where do you get the TPM stuff? The only website i could find announced they are closed as of 2013.
Sadly it was pre 2013 that I bought mine.
This problem of no interiors doesn't go away!!
I have 2 first restaurant cars RFO and one FO all without interiors these being the early Chinese versions of the Graham Farish Poole design.
I have Bernards print for the missing BSK and CK interiors to print / cut / glue as DIY interiors. There is no mention of him doing a RFO / FO. With paint i'm quite happy to have a go at making an RFO artwork however Im not knowledgeable of what the interior design should be.
Is it paired seats each side with a centre corridor, blue seats and white tables? perhaps if somebody has the later farish retool and would do the honour of lifting the roof off for a photo then I might just have a go at the artwork.
The next to solve is the standard restaurant car RU
Kind regards from Fred
I had this problem but in the end just used mk2 seating which is available from brlines
Graham
I was just thinking of editing Bernards artwork using paint. All I need to know is what the interior should look like. Bernards print has the spacing already set for first class seating ie where to fold the card print. All I need is to know what the end result should look like. I'm guessing the seats are for two people each side of an open corridor with no partitions. after that its just a case of reworking the artwork, print and get a sharp stanley blade on the go. Once Ive cracked it anybody else can have a copy.
Kind regards from Fred
According to the plans in Hugh Longworth's Mark 1 and Mark 2 book, the Diagram 36 Open Firsts were 2+1 seating, at tables, with individual chairs. The '2' side of the central aisle was on the same side as the lavatories.
Umm that's tricky for the RFO. I think I need the roof of my early model Pullman as I think it also has tables and chairs. Probably explains why Bachman left out the interiors as difficult tooling.
That brings me to the FO, can you help out with a description from the same source?
Kind regards from Fred.
Diagram 36 covers the Open First described by the OP and Farish as an RFO. Which Open First are you referring to (do you have the running number)?
Ive checked my Farish coaches as follows, all date to about 2005 china build on Poole basis?
1/. RFO Crim/cream running no W8 - no interior
2/. RFO Choc/cream running no W7 - no interior
3/. FO Crim/cream running no M13062 - no interior
4/. FO Choc/cream running no –yet to find and buy
5/. RU Crim/cream running no –yet to find and buy
6/. RU Choc/cream running no W1902 - no interior
Interestingly I have Choc/cream RMB W1814 with an interior which I might use for a silicone mould for part of the second class restaurant seats.
If you can steer me to what seating design layout I need for coaches nos 1, 3 & 6 above i'll have a go at artworks.
Kind regards from Fred
'1 and 2 RFO' Diagram 36 per my reply #14 on previous page.
'3 FO' is in fact a Diagram 116 FK - 7 compartments of 3-a-side seating.
'6 RU' is a Diagram 23 RU - apart from the kitchen/pantry the seating is 2+1 at tables with individual seats. The '2' side of the aisle is on the same side as the kitchen/pantry. 6 seating bays on the '2' side, with a seat missing on the '2' side at the end of the coach to allow for access to the gangway to the next coach. 5 seating bays on the '1' side, with a space opposite the 6th '2' bay to allow access to the side corridor past the kitchen/pantry.
EDIT
The above description fo the RU may be a little hard to understand, so I've done a simple diagram to illustrate, in the absence of being able to scan and post copyrighted material...
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/2626-051016101755.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44125)
S= Seat, T= Table, P= Pantry, K= Kitchen
Incidentally, I have the 374-121 RU Maroon W1917, which is a Diagram 29 RU but it has a Diagram 23 interior. If it wasn't for the wires representing the water filler pipes I would have taken the roof off and photographed it...
Thank you. I'm going to Derby Mickleover Club tonight, I'll see if that book is in our Library! Question, where your notes have S above S is that a bench seat or two armchairs?
Quote from: Fredastaire on October 05, 2016, 12:28:46 PM
Thank you. I'm going to Derby Mickleover Club tonight, I'll see if that book is in our Library! Question, where your notes have S above S is that a bench seat or two armchairs?
Each S is an individual chair.
Quote from: Fredastaire on October 05, 2016, 09:17:42 AM
Ive checked my Farish coaches as follows, all date to about 2005 china build on Poole basis?
1/. RFO Crim/cream running no W8 - no interior
2/. RFO Choc/cream running no W7 - no interior
3/. FO Crim/cream running no M13062 - no interior
4/. FO Choc/cream running no –yet to find and buy
5/. RU Crim/cream running no –yet to find and buy
6/. RU Choc/cream running no W1902 - no interior
Interestingly I have Choc/cream RMB W1814 with an interior which I might use for a silicone mould for part of the second class restaurant seats.
If you can steer me to what seating design layout I need for coaches nos 1, 3 & 6 above i'll have a go at artworks.
Kind regards from Fred
The RMB's always had seating as Bachmann used the Farish (Poole) moulding. The full size RMB however is derived from a TSO and has standard TSO 2+2 seats. Except for the second batch of RF's all other MK1 Catering Vehicles had loose individual seats.
Most Mk1 seating plans are shown in Parkins book.
Dodger