I'm sure I'm not alone on this forum in that I like to set up authentic (and some non authentic) train formations.
For instance I have various parcel train formations, an engineering train, mixed goods, school train, branchline milk, granite train etc etc.
Just wondering if it might be an idea to photograph interesting formations and share them on here whether they be steam era, BR diesel or modern image.
If people are interested then feel free to add photos to this thread. It might give others inspiration ??
Just a thought.
I'd recommend a series of books called 'BR Blue'. I have no. 3 - Freight in the 1980's and no. 5 - Passenger and Parcels by John Dedman, they've got loads of good quality, well annotated images of the consists of short freight trains in the 1980's over many areas of the UK. There's a real wealth of images in all of them so I'm ordering No. 6 - Train Formations very soon!
A mixed train consisting of the pick-up goods behind an ex-GWR auto-train.
(http://www.mdrs.org.uk/localrailways/nas_1411spadeoak.jpg)
0-4-2T 1411 near Spade Oak Crossing with the 3.20 p.m. mixed train from Marlow 24 May 1954
Quote from: d-a-n on May 09, 2014, 10:24:36 PM
I'd recommend a series of books called 'BR Blue'. I have no. 3 - Freight in the 1980's and no. 5 - Passenger and Parcels by John Dedman, they've got loads of good quality, well annotated images of the consists of short freight trains in the 1980's over many areas of the UK. There's a real wealth of images in all of them so I'm ordering No. 6 - Train Formations very soon!
Thanks for the tip. A Google search reveals that John Dedman has some interesting albums on Flickr too... as I spent a few formative years in the Southampton area in the BR blue period I particularly enjoyed his first album!
Quote from: Karhedron on May 09, 2014, 10:31:22 PM
A mixed train consisting of the pick-up goods behind an ex-GWR auto-train.
0-4-2T 1411 near Spade Oak Crossing with the 3.20 p.m. mixed train from Marlow 24 May 1954
Nice picture but I'm not sure my 14XX could cope with that lot ! Manages the autocoach OK but I think it would struggle with the pick up goods wagons on the back.
I think I may have confused people with the original post ??? :confused1:
I was suggesting that we might share pictures of interesting train formations on our layouts.
Whether we model freelance or prototype, I venture to suggest we all try and run 'a typical rake' either from knowledge or (faded) memories, so personally I'd allow both to get the maximum flow of info each way. Just my ruminations :hmmm:
I am inclined to agree. We can run whatever we want on our layouts but if it is not informed by prototype practice then it is just playing trains.
It is quite hard to fit in a whole train and I need to remove the Perspex screen really but this is one of my favourite formations. Typical of local services in the Warwickshire area it is a set of BR 57-foot Mk1 suburban coaches; composite, brake second and second open. It feels odd not having a brake coach at each end but the formation is correct. Pity about the big gaps between the coaches...
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/fourwheelsteer/Train%20and%20model%20rail%20stuff/100_4516_zpsbcb6f53c.jpg) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/fourwheelsteer/media/Train%20and%20model%20rail%20stuff/100_4516_zpsbcb6f53c.jpg.html)
Hopefully it will get the ball rolling anyway.
That's the sort of thing I was thinking of and it looks good. Thanks for "getting the ball rolling".
The layout has changed a bit, but here's my weathered Farish WD with a rake of Dapol weathered hoppers (note to self, weather the guards van!)
[IMG] (http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Kimbolted/WDHoppers.mp4)
That is a mighty impressive train
I can't see the picture, just a blank space and a lonely "[IMG]" tag at the bottom. :(
Quote from: johnlambert on May 11, 2014, 12:03:55 PM
I can't see the picture, just a blank space and a lonely "[IMG]" tag at the bottom. :(
Hi John,
If you can't see the picture, try clicking on the lonely "[IMG]" :thumbsup:
cheers John.
Yeah, that's what I got on me phone, but it's OK on my laptop. Geez, Mick - I went out of my mind countin' - how many? Nineteen?
Typical DB local passenger formation. The 6 wheeler "Umbauwagen" or "rebuild" coaches were pretty ubiquitous with some 6,500 being built (according to Wikipedia, anyway!), as were the bogie coaches.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-qSgoWscSFfU/U2-Cvr_0iII/AAAAAAAADNQ/8NqCbaCdkn0/w1044-h195-no/IMG_5879.JPG)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-otqmrCuW9rQ/U2-CvTMSJYI/AAAAAAAADNI/H9KRnJ2c_9M/w1044-h126-no/IMG_5878.JPG)
Quote from: Bealman on May 11, 2014, 12:41:45 PM
Yeah, that's what I got on me phone, but it's OK on my laptop. Geez, Mick - I went out of my mind countin' - how many? Nineteen?
Yup - I wish I had more but I took County Rolling Stock's entire stock a couple of years ago and haven't found any since. Problem is, they only carry Richard's stock number - CRS003W
This is (hopefully) my very first video download to the forum so here goes :
[img width=528 height=432] (http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/video_zps4b59e59d.mp4)
Hopefully you see my Hymek passing through the station on a short parcels train. Sorry about the wobbly bit at the end and for some reason I have no sound but I'll try to investigate that.
I like to try to recreate rakes I've seen in books or on the internet. I like block trains but as I've read up on 1980s freight, I'm building a wish list for recreating some of the more unusual mixtures of wagons/lengths of trains. I wish the 31 would come out already for this!! Descriptions of the rake are attached to each photo.
The classic 1970s/80s 'train set' short carriage formation, not too first-class heavy up front, brake at the end (the proper way round!)
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A bit heavier 'train set' carriage formation with a BG up front and some type four traction. Begging for a FO/FK to be put between the BG and CK and a few more SO/SKs put in the mix. Maybe a buffet car too...Let's see what blue/grey mk1's my duchess train pack brings.
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A mixed 1970s parcels train, I wish Farish would release more of the blue GUVs as most images depict about 4 or 5 of these in a rake (and sometimes it's just a rake of these with the odd BG thrown in.)
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A 1986 parcels train based on a photograph in Br Blue 5 by John Dedman.
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A TPO formation as described by Karhedron on RM web "2000 Cardiff - Crewe and 0147 return in the late 70s/early 80s which ran as BSK, BCK, POS, BG."
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I'm still deciding what period freight to put behind my WD, it'll most likely be one of each of the weathered triple packs like these vans.
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1970s scrap train of fitted and unfitted rusty 16t mineral wagons.
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Mid 1980s PCA block train (just before the third marker lights were introduced)
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Mid 1980s Railfreight/Speedlink train (just before the third marker lights were introduced)
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Late 1980s Railfreight/Speedlink train mixed up with some more private owner air-braked stock.
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Late 1980s/Early 1990s TTA wagon train.
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Late 1980s (if you can ignore the Caib logos)/Early 1990s Yeoman stone train.
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By breaking up the block trains down to just a few wagons, I can have a rake of mixed wagons with lots of easi-shunts along it which makes shunting this kind of train quite fun.
That's great and thanks for all those photos.
Really interesting formations there - have fun running them all. It would be great to see a really long mixed freight behind that WD.
Nice photos d-a-n, thanks for those. I was trying to get a photo together of a mixed mk1 and mk2 cross country train based on a formation I heard described. But I couldn't get it all in shot and clear enough, I may have to try again.
My personal fave - double headed 37s on 35 16t coal boxes plus brake - typical 1970s coal train (courtesy of Shaun's George Street II layout):
George Street II - N Gauge DCC Layout 19/03/2014 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWg5jxRJsBM#ws)
And some typical modern era freights from the recent archives:
Old Warren Parkway *Final Video* - 70006 at night (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUNIXB9hIEA#ws)
Old Warren TMD - N Gauge Layout - Update 13/06/2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emaafXN3hjY#)
On my now dismantled layout an ex LSWR Adams A12 0-4-2 on a train of vans
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Thanks Chris for those excellent videos of Old Warren. I particularly like the double headed 37s on a truly impressive train. Excellent and professional looking videography as well.
And Dorset Mike I really like the mixed parcels vans with the Adams A12.
Thanks both for sharing those.
with mine being a preserved railway, i run the following trains:-
7x Crimson/cream mk1s
7x LNER Teak
7x BR Gresleys
18x 16t mineral wagons + 2 brakevans
7x Choc/cream Collets
6x TPO
the interesting one is the dining train...
1x Metcam Pullman brake
2x Mk1 Pullman
1x converted restaurant first (to form a pullman)
3x choc/ cream mk1s
then theres a mixed rake of suburbans, mixed rake of gresleys/ teaks, and anything else left over!
Right........here's a short video of 3 trains running. My video skills are not good so apologies in advance.
What we have is the daily seasonal broccoli special running through from Lanharrack to Truro (on the main branch line) and hence up country (as we say down here). This is the longest train that I run.
This is followed by a Class 22 (on the inner goods loop) with a train of felled wood destined for the sawmills beyond Lanharrack.
This is followed by an 08 on a local pick up freight destined for Port Peran from Lanharrack.
[img width=528 height=432] (http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/100_1015_zps88e9b36e.mp4)
Quote from: port perran on May 13, 2014, 08:03:34 PM
Right........here's a short video of 3 trains running. My video skills are not good so apologies in advance.
What we have is the daily seasonal broccoli special running through from Lanharrack to Truro (on the main branch line) and hence up country (as we say down here).
Has anyone on this forum modelled watercress traffic in the heyday of the "watercress line" ?
Step forward Mr. Boydon !
Best regards,
Joe
Quote from: port perran on May 13, 2014, 08:03:34 PM
What we have is the daily seasonal broccoli special running through from Lanharrack to Truro (on the main branch line) and hence up country (as we say down here). This is the longest train that I run.
Normally I can't stand broccoli, but I quite enjoyed that :)
Nice vid, Martin :thumbsup:
Although I nearly had a heart attack at 0.59sec :o
Quote from: newportnobby on May 13, 2014, 08:42:41 PM
Nice vid, Martin :thumbsup:
Although I nearly had a heart attack at 0.59sec :o
Sorry - don't know what happened there. It was just before I hit the switch for the point motor !
Sorry Joe, Watercress line's in 'ampshire not yur in Darset. We do get loadsa grockles though in season!
To answer my own question I did a bit of a search and found this :
http://watercress.co.uk/about/watercress-line/ (http://watercress.co.uk/about/watercress-line/)
Good excuse for a short train of Southern CCTs (Dapol or Chivers) headed by a 4-6-2 tank, maybe a "Brighton" Fairburn ?
Best regards,
Joe
Hope you mean a 2-6-4 tank, Joe :goggleeyes:
Sorry Mick - I did mean 2-6-4.
Get's confusing with these tank engines when they run tender first :D
Best regards,
Joe
:bump:
This months Railway Modeller has an interesting piece about parcels trains in the BR Blue era but it gives some good pointers to previous eras too :thumbsup:
Quote from: joe cassidy on May 15, 2014, 06:58:41 PM
To answer my own question I did a bit of a search and found this :
http://watercress.co.uk/about/watercress-line/ (http://watercress.co.uk/about/watercress-line/)
Good excuse for a short train of Southern CCTs (Dapol or Chivers) headed by a 4-6-2 tank, maybe a "Brighton" Fairburn ?
Best regards,
Joe
I thought you meant the LBSC 4-6-2T's!
Dodger