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Title: BBC2 9pm Thursday 22.9.11
Post by: Newportnobby on September 22, 2011, 04:04:50 PM
For anyone who is interested there is a programme about the Spitfire on tonight Oooohhh - those Merlin engines :D
Happy viewing
Title: Re: BBC2 9pm Thursday 22.9.11
Post by: poliss on September 22, 2011, 04:50:35 PM
Will it be accurate or just the usual 1940 newspaper propaganda that they always show?
Title: Re: BBC2 9pm Thursday 22.9.11
Post by: Newportnobby on September 22, 2011, 06:30:47 PM
Quote from: poliss on September 22, 2011, 04:50:35 PM
Will it be accurate or just the usual 1940 newspaper propaganda that they always show?

Sorry, Poliss - all I know is it is a 75th anniversary celebration ???
Title: Re: BBC2 9pm Thursday 22.9.11
Post by: Lawrence on September 22, 2011, 06:42:32 PM
Good grief poliss, how is he supposed to know that  ::) he said it was on, he didn't say he had made the flaming thing.
Title: Re: BBC2 9pm Thursday 22.9.11
Post by: Newportnobby on September 22, 2011, 06:50:22 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on September 22, 2011, 06:42:32 PM
Good grief poliss, how is he supposed to know that  ::) he said it was on, he didn't say he had made the flaming thing.

I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: BBC2 9pm Thursday 22.9.11
Post by: poliss on September 22, 2011, 06:55:27 PM
No one expects the Spanish Inquisition.  :evil:
Title: Re: BBC2 9pm Thursday 22.9.11
Post by: Newportnobby on September 22, 2011, 07:05:19 PM
Quote from: poliss on September 22, 2011, 06:55:27 PM
No one expects the Spanish Inquisition.  :evil:

Our chief weapons are surprise and fear, fear and surprise.
Come 21.00hrs I'll be fetching the comfy chair and the soft cushions ;D
Title: Re: BBC2 9pm Thursday 22.9.11
Post by: poliss on September 22, 2011, 07:18:53 PM
I'll put it another way. I expect they give the usual 1940 newspaper propaganda. Watch out for the Adolf Galland quote about him asking for a squadron of Spitfires. Then they'll say that Spitfires shot down 109s at a rate of 3 to 1 or more. There'll be the bit where they say German pilots would lie about what had shot them down; always claiming it was a Spitfire. How it was the Spitfire that stopped the Germans invading. They always forget that the Royal Navy would have annihilated any invasion force.
Yes we won, but tell it like it really was chaps.
Title: Re: BBC2 9pm Thursday 22.9.11
Post by: Newportnobby on September 22, 2011, 07:59:31 PM
Quote from: poliss on September 22, 2011, 07:18:53 PM
I'll put it another way. I expect they give the usual 1940 newspaper propaganda. Watch out for the Adolf Galland quote about him asking for a squadron of Spitfires. Then they'll say that Spitfires shot down 109s at a rate of 3 to 1 or more. There'll be the bit where they say German pilots would lie about what had shot them down; always claiming it was a Spitfire. How it was the Spitfire that stopped the Germans invading. They always forget that the Royal Navy would have annihilated any invasion force.
Yes we won, but tell it like it really was chaps.

I know what you're saying. After all, the Hurricane hardly got a look in, did it ::) I have found out a little more - they're taking one particular Spit from it's 'birth' in West Bromwich and following it through who flew in it etc etc to the end of its life. Personally I prefer the Mosquito (2 Merlins!!)
Title: Re: BBC2 9pm Thursday 22.9.11
Post by: poliss on September 22, 2011, 08:14:38 PM
The Mosquito, now there was an aircraft. Could hold as much in it's bomb bay as a B17.
Title: Re: BBC2 9pm Thursday 22.9.11
Post by: Alex on September 22, 2011, 08:18:22 PM
The Mosquito...probably the worlds first multi-role combat aircraft.

Sorry, but I'll be watching Billy Connelly on ITV at 9.

Alex
Title: Re: BBC2 9pm Thursday 22.9.11
Post by: EtchedPixels on September 22, 2011, 09:53:36 PM
Quote from: alex crawford on September 22, 2011, 08:18:22 PM
The Mosquito...probably the worlds first multi-role combat aircraft.

Surely most WW1 aircraft were multi-role ?
Title: Re: BBC2 9pm Thursday 22.9.11
Post by: Alex on September 22, 2011, 10:34:28 PM
Hi,

Most WWI aircraft were designed for a specific purpose but some could do other tasks. Originally designed as an unarmed bomber the Mossie was able to be a fighter, bomber, recconaissance, anti-shipping, torpedo bomber and night fighter. It also carried an early version of the head up display. While other aircraft could carry out similar roles the Mossie is often regarded as the first all rounder.

Sorry for drifting off topic.

Alex
Title: Re: BBC2 9pm Thursday 22.9.11
Post by: grumbeast on September 22, 2011, 10:45:33 PM
Watched the show, don't care about the propaganda or what plane did this or that, it doesn't change the fact that the spit is a true thing of beauty, probably the most aesthetic plane built, the lines are just wonderful.

Graham
Title: Re: BBC2 9pm Thursday 22.9.11
Post by: 4x2 on September 22, 2011, 11:00:34 PM
I agree ! The Hurrican was the real hero of the battle of britain, the spit only arrived later in the conflict - But, the spit looked awesome and captured the imagination of the nation (and me !).

For me the spitfire is king of the ww2 fighters, but only by the smallest of margins... so many amazing aircraft of that era !
Title: Re: BBC2 9pm Thursday 22.9.11
Post by: poliss on September 22, 2011, 11:43:23 PM
The Galland quote was there, even if she did mistake it as being between Hitler and Goering. Galland of course was objecting to the restrictions Goering was putting on his fighters by ordering them to stay close to the bombers.
Did anyone spot the desert Spits equipped with the Vokes air filter, or the Spits with the two bladed wooden propeller?
Best piston engine fighter of WWII? Variants of the FW190 culminating with the TA152.
Title: Re: BBC2 9pm Thursday 22.9.11
Post by: scotsoft on September 23, 2011, 07:50:56 AM
I watched the spitfire programme and recorded Billy on his Route 66 jaunt.
The photography in the spitfire programme was superb, some excellent shots of it flying and a well presented east watch for the masses.  I enjoyed it from start to finish  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: BBC2 9pm Thursday 22.9.11
Post by: jonclox on September 23, 2011, 07:15:51 PM
A great program  :thumbsup: tho I do feel that the music let it done a bit. There was/and has been quite a bit of music written on the B.O.B and spitfire itself that I felt they should have been 'aired' in the background
As others have commented the spifire came along and 'took over'' the great work that the hurrican had struggled to  hold together......as did all the forces in those desperate months
Title: Re: BBC2 9pm Thursday 22.9.11
Post by: Mustermark on September 24, 2011, 01:02:07 AM
Quote from: grumbeast on September 22, 2011, 10:45:33 PM
Watched the show, don't care about the propaganda or what plane did this or that, it doesn't change the fact that the spit is a true thing of beauty, probably the most aesthetic plane built, the lines are just wonderful.

Graham

I didn't watch the show but I agree with Grumbeast. The Spitfire is beautiful. I can still hear the sound of the one I saw at the Duxford air show. Magical performance that day.

I do understand that the hurricane did most of the work for most of the time, but the Spitfire came along and was the most manoeverable fighter by a long way and the success rate per plane was quite amazing.

RJ Mitchell did an amazing job both aerodynamically and aesthetically. My favourite plane ever. Closely followed by the Lancaster (4 Merlins!).

Whatever they flew, we definitely owe a lot to those few.
Title: Re: BBC2 9pm Thursday 22.9.11
Post by: Newportnobby on September 24, 2011, 01:03:49 PM
Quote from: Mustermark on September 24, 2011, 01:02:07 AM


Whatever they flew, we definitely owe a lot to those few.

Amen to that :thumbsup:
Title: Re: BBC2 9pm Thursday 22.9.11
Post by: jonclox on September 26, 2011, 11:14:03 AM
A now deceased :( female friend of ours was one of the 'delivery' pilots and always said that the Spite was most of the girls favourite.
She always  claimed that.....''you never flew a Spitfire, you just put it on and wore it like an item of clothing and let it fly itself''
Title: Re: BBC2 9pm Thursday 22.9.11
Post by: N Gauge Bob on September 26, 2011, 05:44:12 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on September 22, 2011, 04:04:50 PM
For anyone who is interested there is a programme about the Spitfire on tonight Oooohhh - those Merlin engines :D
Happy viewing

Guess you could still have one (or similar) on the road   :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-aC5B348rA&list=PLEF762836F4A44468&index=7