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Title: Old Graham Farish (Poole) part numbers
Post by: GeeBee on April 12, 2014, 02:58:17 PM
Not sure if this is the place for this thread please move if necessary, I have some old LMS coaches that I am trying to find the original GF part numbers for does anybody know if there is a list of GF (Poole) rolling stock with part numbers, I am in the process of setting up an insurance for my layout and they are asking for part numbers and photographs, this could take a while got the photo's but some of the carriages I bought third hand with no boxes so no part numbers
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Title: Re: Old Graham Farish (Poole) part numbers
Post by: Griffo on April 12, 2014, 04:02:42 PM
Have you looked through this one?

http://www.ngauge.org.uk/index.htm (http://www.ngauge.org.uk/index.htm)

Steve
Title: Re: Old Graham Farish (Poole) part numbers
Post by: ajc on April 12, 2014, 10:24:16 PM
Graham Farish 1976 Catalogue:
NR60M LMS Suburban Coach No. 7094
NR61M LMS Suburban Brake End Coach No. 3762
NR62M LMS Mainline Corridor Coach No. 9485
NR63M LMS Mainline Brake End Coach No. 9854

Graham Farish 1978 Catalogue, the catalogue numbers had been changed to:
0601 LMS Suburban 57' Bogie Coach No. 7094
0611 LMS Suburban 57' B/E Bogie Coach No. 3762
0621 LMS Short S/C Mainline Coach No. 9485
0631 LMS Short S/C B/E Mainline Coach No. 9854

Graham Farish 1981 Catalogue, the catalogue and coach numbers changed to:
0606 LMS 57ft Suburban Coach No. 10693
0616 LMS 57ft Suburban Brake End Coach No. ????? number not clear
0626 LMS 57ft Mainline Corridor Coach No. 6143
0636 LMS 57ft Mainline Brake End Coach No. 6587

I hope this helps to identify the LMS coaches,
ajc
Title: Re: Old Graham Farish (Poole) part numbers
Post by: GeeBee on April 12, 2014, 11:23:04 PM
Brilliant, many thanks for that
:thankyousign:  :NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: Old Graham Farish (Poole) part numbers
Post by: Bealman on April 13, 2014, 12:17:27 AM
ajc:

Who's a closet catalogue collector, then?

Me too!!  ;)

George
Title: Re: Old Graham Farish (Poole) part numbers
Post by: GeeBee on April 13, 2014, 04:47:14 PM
Quote from: griffo49 on April 12, 2014, 04:02:42 PM
Have you looked through this one?

http://www.ngauge.org.uk/index.htm (http://www.ngauge.org.uk/index.htm)

Steve

Many thanks for that Steve I have bookmarked that for future use

:thankyousign:  :NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: Old Graham Farish (Poole) part numbers
Post by: Fredastaire on March 16, 2016, 09:20:05 AM
Please can somebody help me.
I want to know If Farish 1862 Locomotive old number is N gauge or 00, googling brings up old hatton adverts suggesting its 00 gauge.
There must be a web site with a list of old Farish catalogue numbers, the one given on this post previously doesnt work as it is no longer available on the web.
second, I guess that this Loco is a very old model, is it best avoided for technical merits as I want to use it not place it on show.
Kind regards from Fred.
Title: Re: Old Graham Farish (Poole) part numbers
Post by: Dancess on March 16, 2016, 09:47:32 AM
Hi,

Farish 1862 should be A4 Sir Nigel Gresley in blue and N gauge.
Title: Re: Old Graham Farish (Poole) part numbers
Post by: Fredastaire on March 16, 2016, 10:02:12 AM
Thanks for the reply , I just need to know if it's an old model best avoided or not!
Title: Re: Old Graham Farish (Poole) part numbers
Post by: Dancess on March 16, 2016, 10:11:47 AM
Yes, it is old, though saying that some of my locos date from the 80s and run quite well but much noisier than new models.
Title: Re: Old Graham Farish (Poole) part numbers
Post by: geoffc on March 16, 2016, 10:14:32 AM
If you look on the Bachman Farish web site there is a list of discontinued items.
Go to:
Home page
Past products.
I dont know if it covers Poole products but it may help you.

Geoff
Title: Re: Old Graham Farish (Poole) part numbers
Post by: Fredastaire on March 16, 2016, 10:41:43 AM
Hi, the Bachmann Farish site old records don't show Poole old part numbers. I am hoping that somebody will know a web site giving the list. Presumably the list from the old 'link' previously given must be there on another new link.
Thanks Fred
Title: Re: Old Graham Farish (Poole) part numbers
Post by: Dancess on March 16, 2016, 12:50:58 PM
Tried looking in an old catalogue? Sure someone on here has one they can scan.
Title: Re: Old Graham Farish (Poole) part numbers
Post by: Dr Al on March 16, 2016, 01:07:50 PM
1862 is not a really old model - it's one of the late English production items - 1997 to 2000.

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Old Graham Farish (Poole) part numbers
Post by: DesertHound on March 16, 2016, 03:05:48 PM
Quote from: Dancess on March 16, 2016, 12:50:58 PM
Tried looking in an old catalogue? Sure someone on here has one they can scan.

Dancess

I wasn't the first to make these available (thank ness-street for that) but I have included the old Graham Farish catalogues on my site, which coincidentally only covers Poole Graham Farish (since that is my interest). I am in the process of cataloguing stock with pictures, although this has so far only extended to diesel locomotives (and is still a work in progress, which you can find here: http://thefarishshed.com/production-gallery-2/ (http://thefarishshed.com/production-gallery-2/) ) This project will, hopefully, extend to steam at some point.

I concur with you re 1862 being the A4Sir Nigel Gresley. On the catalogues page http://thefarishshed.com/catalogues/ (http://thefarishshed.com/catalogues/) scroll down to the bottom and click on the last catalogue icon. It can be found there.

I'm still searching for 1664 but can't seem to find it. Oh wait, that was a beer wasn't it!  :P  :pint:
Title: Re: Old Graham Farish (Poole) part numbers
Post by: Bob G on March 16, 2016, 06:16:33 PM
Ramsey's British Model Trains Catalogue 8th Edition is a definitive listing of all UK model trains. It spreads to two volumes now. It includes photos of some stock, all part numbers, liveries, when they were produced, and the approx. value unboxed and used, or mint in box (for collectors). the values are sometimes higher than can be achieved on EBay, and sometimes lower, as the market is quite fickle at the moment.

The website you yearn for was maliciously hacked and has consequently been taken down by its author.

Bob
Title: Re: Old Graham Farish (Poole) part numbers
Post by: Dr Al on March 16, 2016, 06:18:11 PM
Quote from: Bob G on March 16, 2016, 06:16:33 PM
Ramsey's British Model Trains Catalogue 8th Edition is a definitive listing of all UK model trains. It spreads to two volumes now. It includes photos of some stock, all part numbers, liveries, when they were produced, and the approx. value unboxed and used, or mint in box (for collectors).

Sadly it has numerous errors, which invariably end up transposed all over the web.

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Old Graham Farish (Poole) part numbers
Post by: DesertHound on March 17, 2016, 11:46:07 AM
Quote from: Bob G on March 16, 2016, 06:16:33 PM
Ramsey's British Model Trains Catalogue 8th Edition is a definitive listing of all UK model trains. It spreads to two volumes now. It includes photos of some stock, all part numbers, liveries, when they were produced, and the approx. value unboxed and used, or mint in box (for collectors). the values are sometimes higher than can be achieved on EBay, and sometimes lower, as the market is quite fickle at the moment.

The website you yearn for was maliciously hacked and has consequently been taken down by its author.

Bob

Interesting Bob, thanks for that. Not having seen a Ramsey's before, where might one be able to acquire these volumes? I'm presuming Ramsey's themselves.

Kindest

Daniel

PS: It's interesting what you say about "market prices". It's similar in other collector's markets whereby a collator of information attempts to put a value on items. The issue as I see it is that prices are dynamic (they go up or/and down) depending upon supply/demand, yet once a reference manual is published, it is rather static in nature, and does not reflect the true value of an item in a dynamic environment. It's something you see a lot of in the numismatic field, with wildly different "catalogued" values to those in the real marketplace.

That said, I haven't seen Ramsey's so will just relate it to my experience in other fields. Any attempt to collate historic information is a good one and if we, as a community, can iron out the mistakes / misprints etc. then I'm sure we'll get there eventually with a difinitive guide. I know from my own research that there are differing versions of history out there when it comes to Farish production lists.
Title: Re: Old Graham Farish (Poole) part numbers
Post by: Bob G on March 17, 2016, 12:16:18 PM
Try these:

http://www.whsmith.co.uk/products/ramsays-british-model-train-catalogue-8th-edition/9781907292668 (http://www.whsmith.co.uk/products/ramsays-british-model-train-catalogue-8th-edition/9781907292668)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ramsays-British-Model-Train-Catalogue/dp/1907292667/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1458216840&sr=1-1&keywords=Ramsay%27s+British+Model+Trains (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ramsays-British-Model-Train-Catalogue/dp/1907292667/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1458216840&sr=1-1&keywords=Ramsay%27s+British+Model+Trains)

You want the two volume 8th edition. Dr Al is right - there are some errors and (fewer) omissions, but it's still a valuable reference.

HTH
Bob
Title: Re: Old Graham Farish (Poole) part numbers
Post by: DesertHound on March 17, 2016, 06:31:38 PM
Thanks Bob  :thumbsup: