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Title: Nominations for Journal articles
Post by: PostModN66 on February 18, 2014, 05:26:45 PM
This was Newport Nobby's suggestion..... :thankyousign:

If you feel that a recent thread on the forum warrants an article in the N Gauge Journal, call it out on this thread......

If you agree with a previous suggestion click on "like" (I mean "Thanks" of course!)

If we get, say, 10 likes for a particular suggestion, then the perhaps the main protagonist of that thread would be inspired to make up a short article for the journal.   I promise that if it is "my" thread or topic area I will do so.

Of course, this is pre-supposing that the new editor of the journal thinks it is a good idea.  So, H, if you are monitoring this, let us know if this approach fits your plans for the journal - and particularly if you don't think a specific nomination is worthy of publication let us know before the person does the work to create it!!

Lets see how this goes......

Cheers   Jon   :)

Title: Re: Nominations for Journal articles
Post by: Buzzard on February 18, 2014, 05:38:18 PM
Quote from: PostModN66 on February 18, 2014, 05:26:45 PM
If we get, say, 10 likes for a particular suggestion, then the perhaps the main protagonist of that thread would be inspired to make up a short article for the journal.
Apologies Jon but what happens if the protagonist isn't a member of the NGS?

Nigel
Title: Re: Nominations for Journal articles
Post by: PostModN66 on February 18, 2014, 05:42:38 PM
Hmmmm......

Does the Journal accept articles from non-members?  It has probably never happened!
Maybe someone would "ghost write" it
Maybe they would join......!!! :)

Maybe nothing would happen in this case - as may well be the case if they ARE NGS members.  It's only to provide a gauge of interest......

...or possibly none of the noms will be for non-NGS members' contributions......

....and possibly no-one will nominate anything anyway....

Lets see......

Cheers   Jon  :)
Title: Re: Nominations for Journal articles
Post by: Buzzard on February 18, 2014, 06:14:09 PM
Quote from: PostModN66 on February 18, 2014, 05:26:45 PM
If you feel that a recent thread on the forum warrants an article in the N Gauge Journal, call it out on this thread......
I cannot recall an article in the Journal about using cork as an underlay so I nominate this thread

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=18626.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=18626.0)

Nigel
Title: Re: Nominations for Journal articles
Post by: petercharlesfagg on February 18, 2014, 06:16:09 PM
Quote from: Buzzard on February 18, 2014, 06:14:09 PM
Quote from: PostModN66 on February 18, 2014, 05:26:45 PM
If you feel that a recent thread on the forum warrants an article in the N Gauge Journal, call it out on this thread......
I cannot recall an article in the Journal about using cork as an underlay so I nominate this thread

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=18626.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=18626.0)

Nigel

Perhaps an In-detail article with close-up images of the various underlays available now?  Peter.
Title: Re: Nominations for Journal articles
Post by: bluedepot on February 18, 2014, 08:14:47 PM
how about gordon to write about latest SNCF releases in n gauge together with info on the real thing! 75000s and 65500 diesels out in n so these could start off!

next issue could be german or swiss latest releases... have some euro features in each issue.

Tim
Title: Re: Nominations for Journal articles
Post by: PostModN66 on February 24, 2014, 09:44:57 AM
Just a reminder......

Seems like this thread has sunk without trace.....!  :(

So thanks to Peter, Buzzard and Bluedepot.....any more suggestions, or agreements to their suggestions.......or should I drop it?   :confused2:

Cheers

Jon  :)
Title: Re: Nominations for Journal articles
Post by: ParkeNd on February 24, 2014, 09:57:34 AM
Buying from overseas and avoiding/or not avoiding VAT.
Title: Re: Nominations for Journal articles
Post by: Bealman on February 24, 2014, 10:22:00 AM
I am not trying to be a smartie pants here, but I have had many articles published in many different magazines and journals over the last 32 years, and I'm sorry - I believe that if an author wants an article to be published, that author is obviously enthusiastic enough to submit it to the publication of his/her choice.

You then leave it up to the editor. If the article gets published, great!! If not, tough. Try harder next time.

Least, that's what I always did.

You don't require a popularity poll.
Title: Re: Nominations for Journal articles
Post by: ParkeNd on February 24, 2014, 10:43:07 AM
But do not Editors commission articles from skilled writers on subjects known to be of interest to their readers?
Title: Re: Nominations for Journal articles
Post by: silly moo on February 24, 2014, 11:15:36 AM
I think one of the threads about inclines would make an interesting article.


Title: Re: Nominations for Journal articles
Post by: Bealman on February 24, 2014, 11:24:06 AM
In relation to the NGS journal, I really cannot answer that and am therefore in no position to comment, I guess.

However I will add this (which, I guess is commenting  :D):

Having been an editor of a local model railway newsletter for a number of years (not currently), I think that, yes, articles on a popular subject can be a reason for editors to request further copy.... in fact, as editor, I actively encouraged further material!

However, I can't see where 'skilled' writers comes into it. If the topic is hot, and it is obvious that the person submitting the article is passionate about it's content, then it is the editor's job to see to it that the published material is up to standard, that is, EDIT, without bias or changing the author's original muse.

That goes for 'advanced' or 'beginner's' articles or anywhere in between, for that matter.

Living where I do, I am a long way away from any NGS activity, and I freely admit that I have only been a member for a couple of years - but I believe that no soliciting of articles is required. Those who deem themselves experts will always contribute - such is the nature of an 'expert'.

If a newcomer sends something in, then let it be judged on it's own merit. I guarantee that if it is published, it will give immense satisfaction - joy, even - to the author.

It's model railways, not ground-shattering news.
Title: Re: Nominations for Journal articles
Post by: Newportnobby on February 24, 2014, 01:01:17 PM
There are 2 suggestions here which I believe have great potential

1) To use underlay or not and, if so, what type and why
2) Inclines

Both have great value to beginners and beyond and are vital at the planning stage so as to get the construction stage working/pleasing. Failure to address such points may result in said modeller abandoning the project
Title: Re: Nominations for Journal articles
Post by: Ben A on February 24, 2014, 01:21:36 PM

Hello all,

At the heart of this thread is a good idea (use active threads here on the NGF to identify "hot" topics among N-gaugers) and a genuine good intention to help the NGS.

But from my own experience it seems to have run into the age old problem: people always ready with ideas for other people to do!

Cheers

Ben A.
(NGS VP)
Title: Re: Nominations for Journal articles
Post by: Newportnobby on February 24, 2014, 01:30:23 PM
Hi Ben,

I reckon if a subject is chosen for submission it can be composed by 'the collective' and submitted as 'from the NGF'. Dependent on that subject, I'd be quite willing to write a piece for inclusion in an 'overall' subject, and am quite happy to proof read anything from anyone else if it helps.
I don't think there is a need for someone to assume the responsibility for the entire creation of the article but there are probably many like me who don't have the breadth of knowledge to compose the whole thing.
Just my thoughts :hmmm:
Title: Re: Nominations for Journal articles
Post by: Michael Shillabeer on February 24, 2014, 02:11:29 PM
Hello

The Journal had "From the Net" articles during 2001 which were derived from online postings.

There is an online Journal index at http://www.ngaugesociety.com/index.php?page=journal-index (http://www.ngaugesociety.com/index.php?page=journal-index) that covers Journals from 1/1989 to 6/2013

Best regards
Michael
Title: Re: Nominations for Journal articles
Post by: PostModN66 on February 24, 2014, 04:59:01 PM
Quote from: Ben A on February 24, 2014, 01:21:36 PM
But from my own experience it seems to have run into the age old problem: people always ready with ideas for other people to do!

Not quite Ben, it originally came from my observation (on another thread) that I had stopped writing for the Journal since I had discovered this forum, which now satisfies my need to share(!).  I suspect the same is true of others - there are many skilled modelers/writers/photographers on this forum who don't seem to contribute to the Journal much.

So my offer was to write an article(s) for the Journal if a few members on this forum suggested to me that I should, on any topic(s) that I started or strongly contributed to. This was extended to "others" at Newport Nobby's suggestion, in this thread.

So far...nada, for me, but a few suggestions for others, as can be seen above - thanks guys.  :thankyousign:

Anyway, although it would have given me a warm feeling if some people had thought that my pontifications  :sleep: would be valuable in the Journal, at least it is a bit of market testing and saves me the effort of writing something of low value to others , however much I value my own opinions! :goggleeyes:

Cheers  Jon   :)
Title: Re: Nominations for Journal articles
Post by: Ben A on February 24, 2014, 05:58:47 PM

Hi Jon,

Sorry - I think I misunderstood.

To be clear: is the idea that any forum member, if they like a contribution/layout/thread should contact the original writer or builder and suggest that they might want to submit it as an article?

That's not a bad thought at all, but my experience is that the vast majority enjoy reading of other people's efforts and work, but are often reluctant to actually say so.  This is evidenced in that forums like this have hundreds of members, yet 90% of the postings are from around 10% of members.  Most seem to prefer to lurk!

Still, a nice idea though and I am sure the new editor will be keen to embrace anything that leads to new or different content for the NGS journal!

cheers

Ben A.
(NGS VP)
Title: Re: Nominations for Journal articles
Post by: petercharlesfagg on February 24, 2014, 06:04:18 PM
Purely as an addendum.

I write test articles for tools and equipment for the "Woodturning" magazine published by the Guild of Master Craftsmen.

If there is anything others think I could contribute as a new boy to the pastime please let me know?

Regards, Peter.
Title: Re: Nominations for Journal articles
Post by: ParkeNd on February 24, 2014, 06:10:42 PM
Quote from: petercharlesfagg on February 24, 2014, 06:04:18 PM
Purely as an addendum.

I write test articles for tools and equipment for the "Woodturning" magazine published by the Guild of Master Craftsmen.

If there is anything others think I could contribute as a new boy to the pastime please let me know?

Regards, Peter.

Since the Guild of Master Craftsmen is a highly class outfit judging by their publications such as Black and White Photography magazine I would have thought you would be very useful in writing a short post giving the key pointers about making successful prospective approaches to magazines with articles.
Title: Re: Nominations for Journal articles
Post by: PostModN66 on February 24, 2014, 07:59:00 PM
Quote from: Ben A on February 24, 2014, 05:58:47 PM
To be clear: is the idea that any forum member, if they like a contribution/layout/thread should contact the original writer or builder and suggest that they might want to submit it as an article?

Almost - the idea was that people could propose it in this thread - if others agreed they could check "thank-you" and therefore there would be a quantified view of the relative popularity of topics.  This might inspire the relevant individual, or failing that after a few weeks I might PM the appropriate person and suggest it - and offer to help them write it if appropriate.

This of course is pre-supposing that the new Journal Editor agrees with the whole idea - hence the invitation in the first post for him to comment either generally on the idea of this thread, or specifically about topics he likes or doesn't like.

I think I would agree though with your conclusion that people are reluctant to say what they like, as evidenced by the small number of "thank-yous" for the perfectly reasonable topics that people have suggested above.   Either that, or, as I fear, having already read the posts on this forum, members don't see the point in regurgitating or even expanding on the topic in the Journal.

However, we do at least have some suggested topics, so let's see.......

Cheers

Jon   :)
Title: Re: Nominations for Journal articles
Post by: Bealman on February 24, 2014, 10:00:52 PM
I certainly think the inclines and underlay are two good topics for inclusion - especially the inclines. I forgot to post thank yous!  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Nominations for Journal articles
Post by: Cooper on February 25, 2014, 12:34:14 AM
Given that there has been a lot of discussion about the need to encourage those new to the scale still in the NGS Journal of the future, how about an article on your thread of 'Layouts for the Beginner' Jon?
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=16753.msg166029#msg166029 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=16753.msg166029#msg166029)