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General Category => N Gauge Discussion => Topic started by: scottmitchell74 on February 10, 2014, 02:36:38 AM

Title: Do you mix N Gauge (Scale) Countries?
Post by: scottmitchell74 on February 10, 2014, 02:36:38 AM
What I mean is, does anyone run North American rolling stock on their British layout, or run Japanese on their German?

What I've always imagined on my layout is this...a short-line/branch-line that just bought what it could and acquired an old Japanese (or German, or British...whatever) locomotive at auction for a song and got it running for their roster.

Is that stupid? Is there real life precedence?

Title: Re: Do you mix N Gauge (Scale) Countries?
Post by: TBR on February 10, 2014, 03:09:02 AM
I Run a bit of everything, the New Zealand Rolling stock i have on the layout is British (Mk2's and a Farish 350) And the locomotives are American, Ive also got some EMU's from Kato that were modified into Melbourne EMU's
Title: Re: Do you mix N Gauge (Scale) Countries?
Post by: Komata on February 10, 2014, 03:12:27 AM
An interesting question, to which the answer is 'Yes - sort of'.

By this I mean that it can be done, BUT unless you undertake a very deliberate programme of raising roofs and standardising on a standard maximum-height (usually the height of the tallest piece of American rolling stock in their possession- which can be anything up to (scale) 20ft high) , the end result is visually VERY unappealing. 

I've been there, done that, and as as a result (and for other reasons which are beyond the scope of this reply), I evolved NZN-Freelance, the scale I now use exclusively for my modelling.

Because it is very visually-unappealing to try to 'mix your drinks', in this fashion, observation suggests that most modellers who have actually done what you are asking (mixing 'continents / countries' if you will), eventually decide that the 'mix' is not worth the effort, (and go to whatever 'continent / country' they have the most rolling stock and 'infrastructure' of.

I would emphasise however that what I have written are my own experiences, and would suggest that possibly others have been able to combine the various 'continents' successfully.

Hope that this helps.



Title: Re: Do you mix N Gauge (Scale) Countries?
Post by: Pengi on February 10, 2014, 06:49:41 AM
I have a mixture of 1:160, 1:148 and a 1:150 rolling stock, 1:150 and 1:160 buildings and heaven knows what my cars and buses people and trees are  :oopssign:

My layout is fantasy so not too bothered about the mix of trains but I will run 1:160 with 1:160 etc. More noticeable are the buildings so 1:148 buildings are a no-no for me.


Title: Re: Do you mix N Gauge (Scale) Countries?
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on February 10, 2014, 08:25:48 AM
It wasn't me running British and Japanese.  A big boy did it, then ran off! :-X
Title: Re: Do you mix N Gauge (Scale) Countries?
Post by: ParkeNd on February 10, 2014, 09:54:11 AM
I was just about to say "Don't be silly. That would mean running all those funny looking locos along with proper UK locos"

Then I saw all the people who do it!!

Could always call the layout eBayville
Title: Re: Do you mix N Gauge (Scale) Countries?
Post by: Geoff on February 10, 2014, 10:10:38 AM
Not done it yet but I am thinking of running Japanese with my British.

Rule 1 coming into the norm.
Title: Re: Do you mix N Gauge (Scale) Countries?
Post by: Newportnobby on February 10, 2014, 10:23:39 AM
Erm.......... :no:
Title: Re: Do you mix N Gauge (Scale) Countries?
Post by: ozzie Bill. on February 10, 2014, 10:27:58 AM
@TBR  Ive also got some EMU's from Kato that were modified into Melbourne EMU's
Would you please let me know what EMU's you used and what mods etc, as this really interests me. I model (try to model) Victoria and I want to put a suburban line in place. Thanks, Bill.
Title: Re: Do you mix N Gauge (Scale) Countries?
Post by: petercharlesfagg on February 10, 2014, 10:53:34 AM
I have never entertained any different thought!

Running model railways means to me fulfilling a fantasy so if my fantasy includes the miniatures from across the world regardless of matching scales then so be it!

Regards, Peter.
Title: Re: Do you mix N Gauge (Scale) Countries?
Post by: jonclox on February 10, 2014, 11:11:24 AM
I shall on 'Ruleoneshire' be running locos from different countries but it will be very selective. If I see a loco/stock that I like then I will buy and run it. The same will apply for differing eras (again being selective) 
Title: Re: Do you mix N Gauge (Scale) Countries?
Post by: EtchedPixels on February 10, 2014, 12:32:22 PM
It certainly needs care due to things like platform height differences being dramatic. Most stuff in nature is fairly flexibly scaled and if the buildings and a few other "tell tale" scale objects can be swapped by country then IMHO it works.

The more "nature" the easier - a double track non electrified bit of line with nothing but fences is quite different to a cityscape in this regard
Title: Re: Do you mix N Gauge (Scale) Countries?
Post by: ParkeNd on February 10, 2014, 06:07:58 PM
I suppose you could take the view that if it fits physically on the rails you can run it. What offends the man for whom running Sir Nigel Gresley on a West Country branchline is unacceptable would not necessarily be against the rules for the man with twin helixes and triple levels with minimal scenery. Rails is Rails.
Title: Re: Do you mix N Gauge (Scale) Countries?
Post by: mr magnolia on February 11, 2014, 12:13:21 AM
I'm currently having a background think about this same question.
id like to end up with three sets of stock - British 148, continental 160 and American 160 scales.
I can't possibly have three layouts so I'm pondering what to do about key things like platform heights. I've heard and seen some evidence of steps on British patients to allow train entry from low levels so that may be my way forward...

I'm going for minimal buildings so could perhaps have some that I can lift and replant to suit the location appropriately. I am obv. having to just have my own track layout rather than a the nation proto type arrangement but I think that's a part of the fun. railway layouts in two life arose from a complex mix of technology possibilities, business needs, engineers and owners fancies.
I'm the owner and engineer.
Title: Re: Do you mix N Gauge (Scale) Countries?
Post by: Komata on February 13, 2014, 06:26:16 AM
Mr M

Have you considering creating a fourth 'set' - Japanese, realising of course that they are 1:150 scale?

Just a thought you might care to consider.
Title: Re: Do you mix N Gauge (Scale) Countries?
Post by: grumbeast on February 13, 2014, 01:54:47 PM
Simply put.. yes absolutely.

I refer you the Quinntopia blog if you want to see an awesome example of this (European, the occasional british loco and Japanese are the norm).

http://www.quinntopia.com/ (http://www.quinntopia.com/)

I myself am happy with the four main ones (British, Japanese, European and North American)

To be fair I am trying to work out how to have different areas of the layouts I build to be more one country than the other, but as for clearances and the like I don't see it as a big issue unless you are really funny about differences in millimeters.

RuleOneShire is the only way to go.

Graham
Title: Re: Do you mix N Gauge (Scale) Countries?
Post by: Les1952 on February 14, 2014, 08:03:05 PM
I mix scales and countries on my exhibition layout Furtwangen Ost. There are items of three different nationalities and scales in this photo of one end of the layout.

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The railway runs 1:160 German trains, and most of the trams above are Japanese 1:150, mainly by Modemo.   Many Punters think the trams are narrow gauge.

There are also two buildings on the layout that are Japanese 1:150, though nobody has spotted which two, and assorted P.D.Marsh and Lyddle End scenic details at 1:148 - but it is VERY difficult to spot what bit is what scale.  Overall the idea is to give an impression of a small town in the Western Black Forest.

I must be getting at least part of the impression right, as I keep getting invites........

All the very best
Les
Title: Re: Do you mix N Gauge (Scale) Countries?
Post by: mr magnolia on February 15, 2014, 03:35:34 PM
Quote from: Komata on February 13, 2014, 06:26:16 AM
Mr M

Have you considering creating a fourth 'set' - Japanese, realising of course that they are 1:150 scale?

Just a thought you might care to consider.

oh I will be considering this too in good time.
I'm fairly sure though that this is not a good time...😱