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:sorrysign: I am in need of advice. For those who watch my Hamfordshire thread I will post an update this weekend. I have important news. Anyway, does anyone know what this piece of rolling stock is? It was bought for me at Warley. I model Br green (diesels & steam), and I know this is defiantly not in that era. I'm also sure its foreign, but I really don't know.
Also, How much would you value it? Any offers are considered as it will go to funding the layout & stock (as if I don't have enough :P )
Anyway here it is:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/thumb_9776.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=9776)
Many thanks
:thankyousign:
I have seen this item on the net and I for one would buy it if I had the readies! I have no idea which company makes it but I do believe it is of German origin and I also understand that it was an horrendous price, well over £200.00!
There is another of similar ilk that is Japanese with two strange little brakeman type wagons fore and aft that is close to £300.00.
They are the wagons that I would love to purchase simply because they are not everyday, specialist items.
I am a little weird in that direction as I'm sure everyone is aware!
If you were modelling some serious industrial complex then either of the said wagons would be ideal additions to your stock, IMO!
Regards, Peter.
Quote from: petercharlesfagg on January 23, 2014, 07:10:45 PM
I have seen this item on the net and I for one would buy it if I had the readies! I have no idea which company makes it but I do believe it is of German origin and I also understand that it was an horrendous price, well over £200.00!
There is another of similar ilk that is Japanese with two strange little brakeman type wagons fore and aft that is close to £300.00.
They are the wagons that I would love to purchase simply because they are not everyday, specialist items.
I am a little weird in that direction as I'm sure everyone is aware!
If you were modelling some serious industrial complex then either of the said wagons would be ideal additions to your stock, IMO!
Regards, Peter.
Thanks for the reply. I believe it is trix. I am wanting to sell this on eBay, so if anyone knows what price I should give it I would appreciate it.
:thankyousign: :NGaugersRule:
Quote from: Woolleysh33p on January 23, 2014, 07:16:04 PM
Quote from: petercharlesfagg on January 23, 2014, 07:10:45 PM
I have seen this item on the net and I for one would buy it if I had the readies! I have no idea which company makes it but I do believe it is of German origin and I also understand that it was an horrendous price, well over £200.00!
There is another of similar ilk that is Japanese with two strange little brakeman type wagons fore and aft that is close to £300.00.
They are the wagons that I would love to purchase simply because they are not everyday, specialist items.
I am a little weird in that direction as I'm sure everyone is aware!
If you were modelling some serious industrial complex then either of the said wagons would be ideal additions to your stock, IMO!
Regards, Peter.
Thanks for the reply. I believe it is trix. I am wanting to sell this on eBay, so if anyone knows what price I should give it I would appreciate it.
:thankyousign: :NGaugersRule:
I my humble opinion asking about £150.00 would be reasonable because of it's rarity value if nothing else!
Are there no identifying numbers or makers name underneath the item?
A search would then reveal at least some information?
Regards, Peter.
The number on the box searches as being "Minitrix 15425 (E) DBAG Tourist Coach Set V" so I would assume that it is in the wrong box?
Have you studied the underside?
Peter
Quote from: petercharlesfagg on January 23, 2014, 07:32:22 PM
The number on the box searches as being "Minitrix 15425 (E) DBAG Tourist Coach Set V" so I would assume that it is in the wrong box?
Have you studied the underside?
Peter
Ok so it's code is 'minitrix 15248'
And it says it is 'Very heavy load car'
Thanks
Last one that went on ebay went for £103.06 (equivalent)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Minitrix-15248-N-Tragschnabelwagen-32-achsig-beladen-mit-Trafo-OVP-TOP-F0903-/400645782146?hash=item5d48597a82 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Minitrix-15248-N-Tragschnabelwagen-32-achsig-beladen-mit-Trafo-OVP-TOP-F0903-/400645782146?hash=item5d48597a82)
The wagon in the photo is substation transformer transporter.
The green block is a transformer. Transfomers are moved in
The UK by road transport. As the railway loading gauge want
Take that size of wagon. 8) :thumbsup:
See also, for example :
http://www.reynaulds.com/products/Trix/15226.aspx (http://www.reynaulds.com/products/Trix/15226.aspx)
Steve
Quote from: griffo49 on January 24, 2014, 12:38:16 PM
See also, for example :
http://www.reynaulds.com/products/Trix/15226.aspx (http://www.reynaulds.com/products/Trix/15226.aspx)
Steve
Thankyou, I could just imagine this fantastic piece being toed around my layout! (I have to imagine because not only can I not afford it , I have no track for running, due to relaying and restructuring!)
Peter.
it's called a Schnabel car, and they are as has been said used for very heavy oversize loads, I've seen examples from Europe, North America and Japan. the are quite unusual cars and I would expect to pay a fair amount for one. There alone excellent videos on YouTube, including a recent one moving a huge load from Canada to the US.. I'll try and find the link and post it, it should give you a better idea
Graham
Different load, but same kind of car
http://youtu.be/OqeSDYMGSzs (http://youtu.be/OqeSDYMGSzs)
Enjoy!
G
Quote from: grumbeast on January 24, 2014, 06:51:24 PM
Different load, but same kind of car
http://youtu.be/OqeSDYMGSzs (http://youtu.be/OqeSDYMGSzs)
Enjoy!
G
Thankyou for finding that video, quite a piece of kit!
In the model form I should think that a 9" inch radius is out of the question?? :D
Regards, Peter.
maybe too long for 9" radii, Peter, but would look hellish good in a siding, loaded and ready to be hooked up to a freight train. Maybe even have a few other wagons hooked up, what a great little diorama. Cheers, Bill.
That is one beeeeg wagon. :goggleeyes:
Ok. It is now on eBay!
Quote from: BLOKEY on January 23, 2014, 08:10:04 PM
The wagon in the photo is substation transformer transporter.
The green block is a transformer. Transfomers are moved in
The UK by road transport. As the railway loading gauge want
Take that size of wagon. 8) :thumbsup:
Transformers were carried by rail in the UK - BR had two such wagons
http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brtransformer (http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brtransformer)
http://www.nrm.org.uk/ourcollection/photo?group=British%20Transport%20Commission&objid=1996-7038_BTF_640_37 (http://www.nrm.org.uk/ourcollection/photo?group=British%20Transport%20Commission&objid=1996-7038_BTF_640_37)
The transformer load could be skewed over to avoid line-side hazards.
I'm sure there's a British Transport Films program showing it in use on the Ffestiniog branch but I can't find it.
Happy modelling.
Steven B.
and here's how you do it on the road....
http://static.commercialmotor.com/big-lorry-blog/assets_c/2010/12/More%20dennis%20long%20combo-thumb-448x298-106466.jpg (http://static.commercialmotor.com/big-lorry-blog/assets_c/2010/12/More%20dennis%20long%20combo-thumb-448x298-106466.jpg)
hmm, I like both setups.... Perhaps, that's why I'm building railways guns at the moment... I like bogies :goggleeyes:
Quote from: Steven B on January 27, 2014, 12:53:31 PM
Quote from: BLOKEY on January 23, 2014, 08:10:04 PM
The wagon in the photo is substation transformer transporter.
The green block is a transformer. Transfomers are moved in
The UK by road transport. As the railway loading gauge want
Take that size of wagon. 8) :thumbsup:
Transformers were carried by rail in the UK - BR had two such wagons
http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brtransformer (http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brtransformer)
http://www.nrm.org.uk/ourcollection/photo?group=British%20Transport%20Commission&objid=1996-7038_BTF_640_37 (http://www.nrm.org.uk/ourcollection/photo?group=British%20Transport%20Commission&objid=1996-7038_BTF_640_37)
The transformer load could be skewed over to avoid line-side hazards.
I'm sure there's a British Transport Films program showing it in use on the Ffestiniog branch but I can't find it.
Happy modelling.
Steven B.
I saw that Ffestinog film recently but I can't remember where it was linked from. Could have been one of several forums. I remember the film noting that the shape of the transformer had been designed to help it fit the loading gauge of the line. One of the lead wagons carried a dummy outline of the transformer too. And a steam loco followed the main train at a short distance to act as an emergency buffer stop if the couplings on the transformer train broke.
Found the film:
Measured for Transport 1962 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afvGStYT9xI#)
The film is "Measured For Transport" (1962) - BFI British Transport Films DVD Volume 8 - Points and Aspects.
The transformer was for the hydro-electric power station on Tanygrisiau Reservoir (which when built resulted in the flooding of the original Ffestiniog Railway trackbed).
Happy modelling.
Steven B.