For anyone interested Rod stewart's HO layout - Grand Station & Three Rivers - is featured in the Feb edition of Model Railroader Magazine. I have just received my digital copy so it should be on the newstands soon.
I'd probably be more interested in Penny Lancaster's rolling stock.
:laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
Thanks Col, I'll keep an eye out. I bought the issue that it featured in a few years back.
G.
What, again? :no:
Sorry, but as this is (I believe) the third time it has been featured, I'm not impressed, especially as Mr. Stewart apparently pays someone to build and maintain the layout in his absence and merely adds 'bits' to it during the times he is 'between tours'.
To each their own I suppose, and evidently what Mr Stewart is doing is viewed as being 'real railway modelling' (it must be, to have him feature repeatedly in that particular magazine), but it does beg the following questions:
1. At what point does railway modelling cease to be a hobby?
2. Is what Rod Stewart doing actually 'railway modelling' in the form that we generally understand the term?
3. Does paying someone to do your modelling (and then taking the credit for what is done), constitute 'real' railway modelling?"
Everyone will inevitably have their own views and answers to these questions, but it does make one wonder.
Komata
Spot on Komata, you got to have blood sweat and tears to be a railway modeler, must be brilliant for the persons paid to keep the model railway in tip top condition.
Rod Stewart must be in different countries for most of the year and to keep it up and running is going to be hard for him, but do you really know what he does to the model himself? he just might be a guy that does like building and maintaining his railway, his model his rules, we are all different.
Interesting points made by Komata. Hadn't thought of it like that before. Same must be true of Pete Waterman?
If I watch football then I'm not a footballer. Makes sense.
I think that it is fantastic that rock legends are interested in model railways, and that the likes of Rod see fit to share it with the world via valid model railway publications. It can only do the hobby good.
Go Rod! No Mandolin Wind couldn't change a thing.... couldn't change a thing, no no!..... :whistle:
It saddens me to see the "That's not REAL modelling" punditry, so popular elsewhere, wafting into NGF. But I guess you can't have a season of goodwill without the smell of sprouts ;)
Curiously enough, when he is on tour, he spends the time in his dressing room and during the evening building models for his railway.
Quote from: Malc on December 28, 2013, 09:28:54 AM
Curiously enough, when he is on tour, he spends the time in his dressing room and during the evening building models for his railway.
In which case he is a railway modeller then. Not just a model railway fan.
We need to be a bit circumspect before we condemn what used to be called "cheque book modellers". Surely the basis of a model railway club or group is that it exists so that talents can be pooled and called upon as required. The difference in Rod Stewart's case is that he pays for this assistance and his personal input is limited, presumably because of other calls on his time. I have no idea what the set up [financially] is at Pendon, but there you have an army of experts who have been recruited to produce exquisite models showing the level of craftsmanship to which we would all aspire given the time and means. There have been many layouts, over the years, owned by wealthy individuals who see no disgrace in "buying-in" expertise which they do not personally possess. Don't overlook also that this also provides work for model makers. Our magazines contain numerous adverts for baseboard builders, weathering experts, kit builders etc whose existence we presumably accept as legitimate. All Rod Stewart and others of his ilk have done is to make maximum use of their services.
In my view "celebrity" layouts should be applauded as they are more likely to be featured in the wider, non- railway, media and help to dispel the "anorak" image that the general public so often attach to this hobby of ours.
[Steps down from soapbox......]
Am I also right in thinking that I've seen a US style layout attributed to Mick Jagger?
pfff, typical English :laughabovepost: moaning about nothing.
what does it matter that guy loves his model trains and for me I don't care if he build it him selves or pays somebodu to do it.
Id the definition of a railway modeler is that you have to build it your selves 99% of the members are not as we all buy ready to run track, fully assembled trains etc etc.
for me the definition is somebody who loves trains, loves watching them and loves making things how big or how small it is.
but this is just my 2cents, back under my stone now it's safer
Although I do indulge in modelling, I get more pleasure in running trains. We all get different things out of our hobby, to me it dos'nt matter how much we make or not, we all have a passion for railways!
Certainly didn't think it would spark this sort of reaction - let's cut the arguments guys & gals - Mods please feel free to lock this thread is you feel it is getting too heated.
The thread was started to draw attention to pictures of someone's layout. Obviously it will debated who does what and so on.The same can be said for most layouts. My Dad has helped with the wiring, my wife has done some of the scenics, but I still call it mine.........
Should we not be pleased to see any layout published ? So let's enjoy it for what it is not who it is.
Quote from: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 28, 2013, 09:24:52 AM
It saddens me to see the "That's not REAL modelling" punditry, so popular elsewhere, wafting into NGF. But I guess you can't have a season of goodwill without the smell of sprouts ;)
Smell of sour grapes more like ;)
We all "buy in" to a certain extent - RTR stock, buildings, signals, etc. I don't understand electronics much so I chose to buy signal-sequencing units from Heathcote instead of build them. Does that make me less of a "modeller"? I think not :)
As said by others, do we really need to indulge in this sort of bashing of other modellers on NGF? I don't think so. We all have our own views and interests and should appreciate that others may differ in theirs. As Malc has stated Mr Stewart spends his spare time in hotel rooms making buildings for his layout - would you rather he spent that time partying and trashing the room instead like a sad stereotype? ::) Personally I think it's good that famous people share their layouts as it can only show the hobby in a better, less 'nerdy', light :thumbsup:
Don't think it needs locking - some need to lock away their green-eyed monsters that's all ;)
Paul
Lock it down, buddy? No way! I love this stuff! Maybe we can get Roger Daltry of The Who, Phil collins, James May, and of course, Pete Waterman (OK, 0 gauge, I know, but totally awesome), who are all avid model railway fans to maybe post something!
Wake up Maggi, I think I've got something to say to you... :whistle: :headbang:
Postscript to this post:
Having spent a wonderful morning at Minatur Wunderland in Hamburg in September (coming soon on Euroadventure thread, plug...plug....), there are pictures there of Rod Stewart getting a personal tour... but why not? Publicitiy for them - and the influence of Hamburg shows on his layout.
Model railways is wot it's all about, and, by the way, Rod has put out some great songs. :thumbsup: 8)
George
This thread getting a bit out of control, by the way is Mr Stewart's layout DC or DCC ? I think we should
be told. With my tongue firmly in cheek I would suggest you cannot be a real modeller unless you :-
Mine your own ore to smelt steel and make your own locos literally from scratch.
Cast your own brass and refine your own copper
Make plastic from petrochemicals for coaches and wagons and cable covering
Chop down trees , cut them up to make your own sleepers
Enjoy ! :D
:laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing: :thumbsup:
Go Rod!
Whatever his level of 'modelling' may be, he's into the hobby and that's all that matters IMO.
I take my hat off to anyone who can knock up a loco from scratch, but I do not have the time nor skill to produce a finish close to RTR.
If I had the money I'd do the same, maybe it's my tender age but I just want to get to the 'playing with trains' part as soon as possible.
I concur, though I put together the occasional Peco wagon kit which even I can't mess up, that reminds
me I have a brake van to complete, put aside during the eating and drinking this week. ;D
Quote from: Agrippa on December 28, 2013, 12:20:25 PM
This thread getting a bit out of control, by the way is Mr Stewart's layout DC or DCC ? I think we should
be told. With my tongue firmly in cheek I would suggest you cannot be a real modeller unless you :-
Mine your own ore to smelt steel and make your own locos literally from scratch.
Cast your own brass and refine your own copper
Make plastic from petrochemicals for coaches and wagons and cable covering
Chop down trees , cut them up to make your own sleepers
Enjoy ! :D
I knew I was not doing it right :doh: Ive even got RTR resin houses and things on my layout.
I`m reminded of well dressed loud educated mouth at an exhibition a few years back who addressed those passing and nearly demanded that they inspect his layout.
His lesson preached to all who stopped was that
''Your not a railway modeller until you achieve exhibition standards with your work and display it for all who pass.
It wasn't a model railway exhibition but a village craft type fair.
I in my wheelchair was pushed away by son as he saw I was about to blow a gasket
Quote from: Agrippa on December 28, 2013, 12:20:25 PM
This thread getting a bit out of control,
Can't agree (yet :hmmm:)
It is worth discussing and I'm pleased to see the discussion is fair, open and humorous in parts. If 'celebs' can bring model railways to the attention of others then fair play, I say, although the mere fact the article is in a modelling journal will limit the exposure to the general public. Modelling can only be done to either time available or ability. Those with no/little skills in baseboard construction have the option of buying them, while Rod the Mod obviously does not have the time to do everything so 'buys in'.
Well someone built it, which is surely the important thing... :-\
mmm , big layout eh ? , well rods into trains and had a fair size layout , then one day O'l blue eyes poped his clog's , and daughter nancy put his layout up fror sale , so rod came forward with the £$£$£'s and purchased well in exess of Sinatrar's layout - and whow , its now over a basement big .
alan
( :dunce:) true story .
Why wasn't it put on Ebay ? Collect in person from LA or Vegas. No returns. Found it in my dad's basement . :D
Quote from: Luke Piewalker on December 28, 2013, 03:51:50 PM
Well someone built it, which is surely the important thing... :-\
I agree it is also good that Rock stars like Rod Stewart is into Railway Modelling it's good for the Hobby and gets other people interested.
Hi Folks,
Personally I do not see the problem with modellers like Rod Stewart and Pete Waterman. They are railway enthusiasts and it is up to them how they express that. Rod must have huge demands upon his time so has to use his wealth to compensate in his modelling. Mind you, I have no idea how much of his railway is down to him personally and I do not see it is important.
As for Mr Waterman he is one of the great benefactors of railway modelling and preservation in this country. With his investments in full size railways and modelling via JLTRT he has definitely walked the walk.
Live and let live I say.
Happy new year
Paddy
There was an interview with Rod on radio2 one Saturday morning last year
In the interview he stated that he DID in fact take kits with him to build while he is
"on the road" and couldn't wait to get home so he could place them on his layout :hmmm:
dave :thumbsup:
What an absolutely fascinating series of responses. Thank you to all who took the time.
However, noticeably, my questions have not be answered. These are as follows
1. At what point does railway modelling cease to be a hobby?
2. Is what Rod Stewart (or any other 'celebrity' for that matter) doing actually 'railway modelling' in the form that we generally understand the term?
3. Does paying someone to do your modelling (and then taking the credit for what is done), constitute 'real' railway modelling?"
The questions still stand, and now that we have indicated our views about the celebrity concerned (and conveyed our displeasure towards the poster and at what he has written) , perhaps we can have some discussion and answers to the questions?
Thanks.
(Mods: The questions I submitted were intended to promote serious discussion. Remove/Lock the topic if you so-wish)
Quote from: Komata on December 28, 2013, 06:17:04 PM
What an absolutely fascinating series of responses. Thank you to all who took the time.
However, noticeably, my questions have not be answered. These are as follows
1. At what point does railway modelling cease to be a hobby?
2. Is what Rod Stewart (or any other 'celebrity' for that matter) doing actually 'railway modelling' in the form that we generally understand the term?
3. Does paying someone to do your modelling (and then taking the credit for what is done), constitute 'real' railway modelling?"
The questions still stand, and now that we have indicated our views about the celebrity concerned (and conveyed our displeasure towards the poster and at what he has written) , perhaps we can have some discussion and answers to the questions?
Thanks.
(Mods: The questions I submitted were intended to promote serious discussion. Remove/Lock the topic if you so-wish)
My opinion is as follows;
1. Using the dictionary definition for "Hobby" as below
hobby ~ noun ~ an activity done regularly in one's leisure time for pleasure.Then it ceases to be a hobby when you stop doing it regularly, or you receive some form of payment for your continuance to do it, or you continue to do it without gaining any pleasure from it ( a bit like some marriages ;) ).
2. What Rod Stewart has told us that he does constitutes 'railway modelling' in the form that I understand and interpret the definition. He makes models based on a railway in his own time for his own pleasure.
3. Paying someone to undergo activity on your behalf and then taking credit for it does not constitute 'real' anything, it is closer to the definition for misrepresentation.
Hope that helps 8)
Quote from: Komata on December 28, 2013, 06:17:04 PM
1. At what point does railway modelling cease to be a hobby?
A. When it becomes a business.
2. Is what Rod Stewart (or any other 'celebrity' for that matter) doing actually 'railway modelling' in the form that we generally understand the term?
A. I have never seen a standardised term for "railway modelling"
3. Does paying someone to do your modelling (and then taking the credit for what is done), constitute 'real' railway modelling?"
A. This can only be answered when a standardised term is decided upon, so back to Q2.
These answers are my thoughts only ;)
cheers John.
Chill out
1. When you take the hobby way too seriously and get upset cause no one answered your questions apparently
2. Building kits when his on the road as Davieb just posted
3. Where does it state anywhere that Rod Stewart pays anybody he might have lots of friends that are good at building things also if I had the money I might pay someone.
I agree with some serious discussion but not when it seems to belittle other people that do a little bit as there are many many reasons why people like railway modelling as pointed out in the threads.
But sorry if I seem a bit harsh but your post seemed a bit harsh but what ever we ALL should enjoy our hobby that's the most important thing.
Quote from: Komata on December 28, 2013, 06:17:04 PM
1. At what point does railway modelling cease to be a hobby?
2. Is what Rod Stewart (or any other 'celebrity' for that matter) doing actually 'railway modelling' in the form that we generally understand the term?
3. Does paying someone to do your modelling (and then taking the credit for what is done), constitute 'real' railway modelling?"
1. When it's either not enjoyable
or you're getting paid for it ...
2. Given the (very limited !) information we have, it would appear that he enjoys it as relaxation from the hectic events of making oodles of cash ... (would I had that problem :smiley-laughing:). As such, it meets one of your criteria.
3. Let's split this : if I pay you to do my modelling, am I a modeller ? No. If I claim to have done what you did, am I a modeller ? No. Do either of these meet the information ? No and insufficient data ... He makes some items, and (presumably) fits them to the layout - he therefore models. Does he claim all the glory ? We don't know ... but it is instructive to see that he does seem to give some credit elsewhere ...
I would put a fourth question ...
Q4. Does any of this matter to any of us ?
A.4 No :D
I agree this thread should be closed due to it not working properly 2 people posted before me and could not of done unless they type at speed of light.
I think we need Stephen Fry to sort this out! If you pay a business to weather or
repaint your stock does this mean you are not modelling, even if you have laid the track and done the scenics? Anyway I have an appointment at my local to enjoy another hobby, tasting a few continental lagers.
Au revoir !
Quote from: Agrafarfan on December 28, 2013, 06:46:14 PM
I agree this thread should be closed due to it not working properly 2 people posted before me and could not of done unless they type at speed of light.
Since when did my RSA Typewriting skills make any difference to other people's opinions being aired, or the working or otherwise of a thread? :smiley-laughing:
Isn't this all supposed to be fun? :bounce:
Quote from: Leo1961 on December 28, 2013, 06:51:51 PM
Isn't this all supposed to be fun? :bounce:
Yes, it is supposed to be fun :hmmm:
cheers John.
Quote from: Leo1961 on December 28, 2013, 06:51:51 PM
Quote from: Agrafarfan on December 28, 2013, 06:46:14 PM
I agree this thread should be closed due to it not working properly 2 people posted before me and could not of done unless they type at speed of light.
Since when did my RSA Typewriting skills make any difference to other people's opinions being aired, or the working or otherwise of a thread? :smiley-laughing:
Isn't this all supposed to be fun? :bounce:
Sorry yes it should be fun :sorrysign:
It's just that if you look at the posting times it looks like you and Scotsoft took about a minute to post but never mind my brain is not working and I've had a bad couple of days :-[
But yes enjoying your hobby is the most important thing. :D
P.s Just thought I will mention that I thought Komata posted at 6.39 but he didn't he posted at 6.17 oops sorry everyone
Carry on threading
now , now every one - just admit we all pay someone else to do our modeling ... Lydle End , Sceencraft , Harburn , this list could be very long - if you include locos , the nearest many get to hand built is Union Mills .
any way hes got the dosh - like a certain xmas anthem singer who reels in a 'noddy' £300,000 per annum on loyalty's .
alan
I paid someone to type this post for me!!!! ???
Cheers Jon :)
Quote from: PostModN66 on December 28, 2013, 08:55:33 PM
I paid someone to type this post for me!!!! ???
Cheers Jon :)
Hope it wasn't by the word :laugh3:
Having now read the article I can say Rod gives credit for the two helpers he has and there are references to what and where help has been given over the 20 years the layout has taken to build. It's still not finished - sound familiar ? :)
For the record (excuse the pun) The original plan was drawn up for Rod in 1993 by a then friend and fellow modeller, Malcolm Cullimore who went on to be his personal manager. This is the third time the layout has featured first back in Dec 2007 then December 2010. Each of these following the progression of the layout.
I have read many articles on "is Rod Stewart a modeller ?" and much of what I have found does back the stories of his ability to "kitbash". I sure the press would have hounded out the truth if otherwise by now.
As to whether he, or any of us, is a true modeller or not, I think the views expressed in this article below are probably the fairest I've read
http://www.smarttinc.com/blog/rod-stewart-great-model-railroader (http://www.smarttinc.com/blog/rod-stewart-great-model-railroader)
Article on Rod Stewart visit to George Sellios' layout
http://www.salemnews.com/local/x602337277/Rod-Stewart-takes-in-city-s-Downtown-Train (http://www.salemnews.com/local/x602337277/Rod-Stewart-takes-in-city-s-Downtown-Train)
http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/north/10012433039643/rod-stewart-visits-peabody-model-train-collector/ (http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/north/10012433039643/rod-stewart-visits-peabody-model-train-collector/)
Quote from: Komata on December 28, 2013, 06:17:04 PM
1. At what point does railway modelling cease to be a hobby?
When someone posts deliberately antagonistic questions and us Moderators have to step in and do some 'work' ?
Quote
The questions still stand, and now that we have indicated our views about the celebrity concerned (and conveyed our displeasure towards the poster and at what he has written) , perhaps we can have some discussion and answers to the questions?
Thanks.
(Mods: The questions I submitted were intended to promote serious discussion. Remove/Lock the topic if you so-wish)
Considering it wasn't actually your thread to hijack in the first place, it was a friendly post by Trainsdownunder informing people of an interesting article they might want to read, locking/removing the topic wouldn't really be fair on him would it.
Paul
Quote from: newportnobby on December 28, 2013, 09:55:06 PM
Hope it wasn't by the word :laugh3:
Actually, with my proofreader/copywriter hat on, I actually do charge by the word.;)
It's not that expensive, though. Unless you want to write a novel. No one asks me to write their novel. :(
Don't lock this - it's all good natured stuff. Not even a sign on the horizon that Judge Judy needs to make an appearance.
Quote from: Paddy on December 28, 2013, 05:38:12 PM
Hi Folks,
Personally I do not see the problem with modellers like Rod Stewart and Pete Waterman. They are railway enthusiasts and it is up to them how they express that. Rod must have huge demands upon his time so has to use his wealth to compensate in his modelling. Mind you, I have no idea how much of his railway is down to him personally and I do not see it is important.
As for Mr Waterman he is one of the great benefactors of railway modelling and preservation in this country. With his investments in full size railways and modelling via JLTRT he has definitely walked the walk.
Live and let live I say.
Happy new year
Paddy
In the December 2010 article, Rod Stewart estimates that 80% of the layout is his own doing.
Hi Colin,
Your link for the Article on Rod Stewart visit to George Sellios' layout isnt working above for some reason so i hope i've found it here in the link below ?
http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/north/10012433039643/rod-stewart-visits-peabody-model-train-collector/%5Dhttp://www.salemnews.com/local/x602337277/Rod-Stewart-takes-in-city-s-Downtown-Train (http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/north/10012433039643/rod-stewart-visits-peabody-model-train-collector/%5Dhttp://www.salemnews.com/local/x602337277/Rod-Stewart-takes-in-city-s-Downtown-Train)
Hello all,
I recently read Rod Stewart's autobiography. It's a fun read, and in it he describes having an interest in railways and railway modelling from a young age. When in the 60s he got his first flat he says he built a model railway round the edge of the bedroom and ran LNER stock.
He then describes over the years having a succession of layouts, culminating in his huge US layout in his house in LA and another British outline layout (ECML from memory) in his house in Essex.
He says on tour he has a flight case dedicated to his modelling gear and latest project (usually a building) but acknowledges help from others.
I think he sounds like what the Railway Modeller once described as the Average Enthusiast, albeit with a slightly above average budget and more space available than most of us.
He also says that his philosophy (learned from his Dad) is that a man will be content if he has a wife, a job and a hobby - though I am not sure if it's in that order!
cheers
Ben A.
Further to Ben A's post if you have health and the love of a good woman anything else
is a bonus including the Toytown Riots on this thread!
ps Rod's next singles
Young Trucks
The first cutting is the deepest
I'll get my coat/yellow vest/ mod suit on.
I should think so... but :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: anyway! :thumbsup:
Quote from: Agrippa on December 29, 2013, 01:08:31 AM
The first cutting is the deepest
Nice one. ;)
Quote from: Ben A on December 29, 2013, 12:29:23 AM
I recently read Rod Stewart's autobiography. It's a fun read, and in it he describes having an interest in railways and railway modelling from a young age. When in the 60s he got his first flat he says he built a model railway round the edge of the bedroom and ran LNER stock.
I bought that book for my mother. I might have to borrow it back!
Rod sounds like a perfectly normal railway modeller - trying to fit in his hobby around his real life commitments.
Peter
He's one of the lads. Always has been. 8)
Bit of a shame I'm hearing that the anti-fun police are clamping down on him kicking soccer balls into the audience at his shows. I almost caught one at one of his concerts in Sydney a few years ago!
:beers: Cheers, George
Got the three copies of MR out now looking for ideas from this awesome layout :claphappy: if i had the space & money to do it i would in HO more things are easier & possible :thumbsup:
Quote from: upnick on December 29, 2013, 02:36:15 PM
Got the three copies out now looking for ideas from this awesome layout :claphappy: if i had the space & money to do it i would in HO more things are easier & possible :thumbsup:
I love N as much as anyone else here, but i have to agree with you.... A layout that size needs to be HO in my opinion, mainly as there is so much more variety - important if your building 100+ buildings ! Not to mention that N scale trains would look lost in such a large layout...
Quote from: 4x2 on December 29, 2013, 03:06:15 PM
Quote from: upnick on December 29, 2013, 02:36:15 PM
Got the three copies out now looking for ideas from this awesome layout :claphappy: if i had the space & money to do it i would in HO more things are easier & possible :thumbsup:
I love N as much as anyone else here, but i have to agree with you.... A layout that size needs to be HO in my opinion, mainly as there is so much more variety - important if your building 100+ buildings ! Not to mention that N scale trains would look lost in such a large layout...
There was an article in MRJ recently by a bloke who had moved up from P4 to 7mmFS because detailing in the smaller scale had become too fiddly. He found that 7mm was no easier because he felt duty bound to include even finer detail in the larger scale!
around the showbiz world Rod was known to be a bit 'tight' (when it came to his round , he'd suddenly disappear) , it makes you wonder how much of the layout is paid for ....... :D :D
That is true. He didn't like shoutin' the drinks! :beers:
The February 2014 Model Railroader mag with Rod Stewart's layout turned up at the newsagents yesterday, so I bought it.
Yes, he has got some helpers, but I don't have a problem with that.... when I was an active member of our local N gauge club, I'd often be joined by fellow members helping me out on some jobs. I don't see any difference.
Although it is an awesome piece of work and must be great to operate, it's too 'finicky' and cluttered for my personal tastes. Still, it represents a big city, I suppose.
I like his parting comment about how people are amazed that a rock star has model railways as a hobby.
However, I do believe that Roger Daltry did some work on 'The Gresley Beat', and also has his own (Continental?) layout.
George
Rod's got a big layout and a big blonde. To paraphrase George Best's hotel
porter , "Where did it all go wrong?" .
Indeed. :'(
Re 'Bealman's post:
The February 2014 Model Railroader mag with Rod Stewart's layout turned up at the newsagents yesterday, so I bought it.
This is on 'youtube':
Rod Stewart returns to Model Railroader in February 2014 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PylyazGY1AU#ws)
Roger
Rod's layout must be awesome. If that Liberty ship is
built to scale it would be about 6 ft long !
No need to add that - he just happens to have a very well paid job he worked his (:censored:) socks off to get the necessary 'promotion'
Not that his music since The Faces does anything for me :no:
Yeah... you might be right there, though I didn't mind his first 'solo' effort Atlantic Crossing, and the album from 1990 (which I can't remember the name of, so it could hardly have been a classic) with 'Downtown Train' on it wasn't too bad.
What WAS that album called?
Quote from: newportnobby on March 05, 2014, 08:38:12 PM
No need to add that - he just happens to have a very well paid job he worked his (:censored:) socks off to get the necessary 'promotion'
Not that his music since The Faces does anything for me :no:
you misunderstand me, I wasn't referring to Mr Stewart, just the quote from Ben A;
Quote: "a man will be content if he has a wife, a job and a hobby - though I am not sure if it's in that order!" unquote
Andy
:)
Personally (whoever built it) I think it's very impressive and just shows what (compared to an ordinary "Joe" doing an ordinary job) relatively unlimited money and space can achieve. Also it's great that people like him, and Pete Waterman are ready to admit to railway modelling as a hobby. The more often famous people admit to such things the less "nerdy" the hobby becomes in the eyes of the general public and the less derision we railway modellers attract as a group.
Well said, buddy! :headbang:
I've had a guitar (and try to play it) for about the same time as him, but (in his words, so they say), he did all right out of it.
I'm still tryin' :whistle:
One of these days. ;)
Regarding derision aimed at rail modellers, I think Frank Sinatra was a modeller. If anyone derided
him they'd probably get a cement overcoat. :D . Mention rail modelling and a lot of the public
visualise someone like Roy in Coronation Street rather than a blonde chasing rock star.
I am a keen amateur photographer and amateur photographers have often been seen as nerdy
and slightly suspicious whereas pro photographers are often portrayed as glamorous showbiz
type characters. A curious situation. Years ago few people carried a camera unless they were on
holiday or at a wedding. Now with the advent of smartphones etc everyone is a photographer
and you often see young people lugging state of the art Nikons and Canons about.
Personally I regard Stobart spotters and chess players as weird, but if that's their bag so be it.
Quote from: Agrippa on March 09, 2014, 11:15:00 AM
Regarding derision aimed at rail modellers, I think Frank Sinatra was a modeller. If anyone derided
him they'd probably get a cement overcoat. :D . Mention rail modelling and a lot of the public
visualise someone like Roy in Coronation Street rather than a blonde chasing rock star.
I am a keen amateur photographer and amateur photographers have often been seen as nerdy
and slightly suspicious whereas pro photographers are often portrayed as glamorous showbiz
type characters. A curious situation. Years ago few people carried a camera unless they were on
holiday or at a wedding. Now with the advent of smartphones etc everyone is a photographer
and you often see young people lugging state of the art Nikons and Canons about.
Personally I regard Stobart spotters and chess players as weird, but if that's their bag so be it.
:laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
You have made an interesting observation there, though, about young people being into large SLRs. Both my oldest daughters and their boyfriends all have Canons, as do I. However... I seem to be going the other way.... on my UK and European adventures last year, I was, quite frankly getting tired of lugging the thing around after two months. On a trip to Tasmania in January this year, although I took it with me, it stayed in the hotel room the whole time!! I took all my pictures on the phone.
In some ways, it dismays me a little, as in my younger days I was quite a keen photographer and have owned various SLRs since I was in my late teens, but now they just seem cumbersome. I realise, of course that to the serious photographer, SLRs are an essential tool - it's just I'm not that serious any more, I guess. :(
I don't even use the Canon for layout shots, any more. I get up close and dirty with the phone camera!