Just seen this video:
:o http://video.uk.msn.com/watch/video/two-fighter-jets-escorting-ufo/1j44up6m7?from=homepage_slides :o
Uh - whattheheckwasthat? ???
Probably fake or, at the very least, some sort of experimental drone.
The USAF have had saucer-shaped craft for years, albeit under wraps. The whole "Alien Flying Saucer" business was concocted by the CIA in the 1950s to keep the truth hidden.
Now, where did I put my tin-foil hat?
That was about as fake as an MPs expenses claim. Watch out for the fake 'chem trails' videos too.
I saw a 'real' (made by uni students) UFO on the Isle of Sheppey years ago.
If those two fighter jets were actually going that slow they would crash.
Quote from: driverg on August 27, 2011, 08:56:56 PM
If those two fighter jets were actually going that slow they would crash.
Stall speed only about 140 knots, so not without the bounds of possibility, but unlikely to get contrails at such low speed unless it there was a lot of moisture in the air
Quote from: Lawrence on August 27, 2011, 09:14:31 PM
Quote from: driverg on August 27, 2011, 08:56:56 PM
If those two fighter jets were actually going that slow they would crash.
but unlikely to get contrails at such low speed unless it there was a lot of moisture in the air
I seem to have been pi**ing into the wind at work a lot lately - could it have been my fault? :(
they were prob Dapol......
Quote from: captainelectra on August 27, 2011, 02:23:58 PM
Probably fake or, at the very least, some sort of experimental drone.
The USAF have had saucer-shaped craft for years, albeit under wraps. The whole "Alien Flying Saucer" business was concocted by the CIA in the 1950s to keep the truth hidden.
Now, where did I put my tin-foil hat?
Not even under very good wraps. The supreme funny is that the first experimental saucer shaped aircraft known to have been built was in WWII, and it was a Skoda !
Unfortunately while the CIA may well have encouraged UFO hysteria to help cover up test flights (and there is very good non tin foil hat evidence for that) the whole UFO and alien thing is actually much older and there are documented reports of people seeing things way back before WWII. Hardly surprising given that many of the known common causes for reports (such as Venus) have been around for a few billion years
Im no expert on USAF aircraft or Russian jet fighter hardware, what type of planes are these? They both have double tail planes, US F15 eagle has these, so does Russian Mig-29 and SU-35. Are these american or Russian planes I wonder?
Quote from: owl729 on August 28, 2011, 09:28:25 AM
Im no expert on USAF aircraft or Russian jet fighter hardware, what type of planes are these? They both have double tail planes, US F15 eagle has these, so does Russian Mig-29 and SU-35. Are these american or Russian planes I wonder?
They look like F14's to me.
F-14 is the US Navy tomcat. They have all been retired nowdays in favour of the F-18 Hornet. I believe this video was taken this week. The thing I can't work out is what country? It looks either North America or Ural Russia????????
Yes, all retired in the USA about 4-5 years ago, but it could have taken a couple of years for someone to release the video and edit in that object! :) When you look at the wing detail and the angle of the tails...... I'm sure someone will know for sure! :D
Utterly fake I'm afraid,
the f-14s are facsimile's of each other right down to the blurred aberations on the wingtip edges.
this isn't even a good fake. *sigh* they might have actually made an effort
Graham
Im keeping an open mind. Apparently this is a recent video?? The other thing is that F-14's are/were aircraft carrier based, this seems very mountainous and inland to me. Also the noise of the jets seems fitting? Is this Russia or America? Are little green men here already??
They were designed by the Navy for carriers, but there were lots of squadrons of F14's. Many planes and their pilots were based on land for training roles, which the video could have shown. Also remember that these are long range interceptors, so could easily fly 200 miles inland before flying back to a carrier.
I bet it's Iceman and Maverick training at Top Gun school. Que Berlin song 'Take my breath away' :music: :smiley-laughing:
;D :thumbsup:
So many great quotes from that film
Yee-ha Jesters' Dead
Carole: Hey, Goose, you big stud!
Goose: That's me, honey.
Carole: Take me to bed or lose me forever.
Goose: Show me the way home, honey.
I'll hit the brakes, he'll fly right by.
Maverick: This is what I call a target-rich environment.
Goose: You live your life between your legs, Mav.
Maverick: Goose, even you could get l**d in a place like this.
Goose: Hell, I'd be happy to just find a girl that would talk dirty to me.
Maverick: I feel the need...
Maverick, Goose: ...the need for speed!
Quote from: Lawrence on August 28, 2011, 11:40:49 AM
So many great quotes from that film
Yee-ha Jesters' Dead
Carole: Hey, Goose, you big stud!
Goose: That's me, honey.
Carole: Take me to bed or lose me forever.
Goose: Show me the way home, honey.
I'll hit the brakes, he'll fly right by.
Maverick: This is what I call a target-rich environment.
Goose: You live your life between your legs, Mav.
Maverick: Goose, even you could get l**d in a place like this.
Goose: Hell, I'd be happy to just find a girl that would talk dirty to me.
Maverick: I feel the need...
Maverick, Goose: ...the need for speed!
Blimey Lawrence. It seems to me you've seen that film as many times as I've watched Blade Runner :o
I don't think the video is a fake. I'm 100% certain that it's a fake.
When you get an email saying Mr.Obugu in Nigeria has died and they need your bank details to get the money released, do you keep an open mind and give them your details, or do you think SCAM and delete the email immediately?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qKcJF4fOPs
Quote from: poliss on August 28, 2011, 02:22:53 PM
I don't think the video is a fake. I'm 100% certain that it's a fake.
When you get an email saying Mr.Obugu in Nigeria has died and they need your bank details to get the money released, do you keep an open mind and give them your details, or do you think SCAM and delete the email immediately?
I would delete the e-mail of course. However your comparison is flawed in that it is something that was seen and videoed and could therefore be true. As i said, I will keep an open mind as im not arogant enough to think humankind are the only life forms in a universe we only know a micro-dot about, afterall, we have yet to discover the workings of our deepest oceans let alone what may be beyond the stars of our small galaxy.
Don't you find it strange that they never ever, ever appear on live news broadcasts over somewhere like parliament square or in front of the Whitehouse. In The Day the Earth Stood Still at least they had the decency to land where quite a lot of people could see them at the same time.
Gort. Klaatu barada nikto! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIaxSxEqKtA
Besides, there's a warning sign on the Interplanetary Highway sliproad to Earth that says "No Entry".
Quote from: poliss on August 28, 2011, 06:39:19 PM
Don't you find it strange that they never ever, ever appear on live news broadcasts over somewhere like parliament square or in front of the Whitehouse. In The Day the Earth Stood Still at least they had the decency to land where quite a lot of people could see them at the same time.
Gort. Klaatu barada nikto! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIaxSxEqKtA
Besides, there's a warning sign on the Interplanetary Highway sliproad to Earth that says "No Entry".
Thats true. Though they did appear over the Rock of Jeruselum earlier this year: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/ufo/8298744/UFO-hovers-over-Jerusalem-shrine.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/ufo/8298744/UFO-hovers-over-Jerusalem-shrine.html)
and in London http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDIF-ZwJbF0&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDIF-ZwJbF0&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL) ;)
The 1st has been exposed as a fake as I've no doubt they one in question and the London are.
But what would I know, I only arrived on your planet at christmas... :evil:
Quote from: poliss on August 28, 2011, 06:39:19 PM
Besides, there's a warning sign on the Interplanetary Highway sliproad to Earth that says "No Entry".
It's more likely that at our end, we've dug the road up ;D
moogle,
your London video (2nd one) says it all for me. Thats is not a fake. Either that or there are alot of Londoners 'in on it'. As i said I keep an open mind.
Thanks for posting moogle.
That's an ancient Candid Camera trick from the 1950s. You go out in the street with your mate, stop, look up in the air and point at something and everyone else near you will look up too. Done it myself on more than one occasion. It's hilarius. :smiley-laughing:
The 'things' in the sky on the video. Anyone can fake them now with a free application. Even my missus knows how to remove red eye from photos and she's useless with a puter.
My pal Dave caught some 'real' thunder and lightning on his loft layout.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qrQCHFYEvU
:sleep:
Quote from: poliss on August 28, 2011, 06:39:19 PM
Klaatu barada nikto!
That's filthy! Well it is on the planet I come from.
Quote from: owl729 on August 28, 2011, 09:08:26 PM
Thats is not a fake. Either that or there are alot of Londoners 'in on it'. As i said I keep an open mind.
Agree that it's important to keep an open mind. (Like parachutes, minds work best when open.) But, it's also important to have real evidence and I'm afraid that videos posted on the Internet can't be taken as serious evidence unless they're backed up with corroborating evidence such as reliable witness statements and physical bits and pieces. It's easy to manipulate a crowd (not just of Londoners!) like this as poliss has described and the technology that is available to manipulate digital media is very powerful. It's also a sad fact that a lot of people get a kick out of pranking the rest of us with their trickery.
Personally, I believe that we are not alone simply because of the numbers game. There are so many stars out there, with so many planets, that we simply cannot be alone. (But if they're intelligent enough to build spacecraft that can travel the vast distances involved and come here to sneak a peek at us, I can't help thinking that they're very rude for not saying hello at least!)
Keep watching the skies!