I have been waiting for quite a while now for a Pannier that has a 6 pin socket, and Dapol have given the release period for the Pannier BR 9741, on the site it stated on the 12/12/13 that this model would be released just in time for Christmas, I cannot wait.
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If you read carefully there isnt a confirmed date. when dapol say next week in real time thats august. I hope they release some gwr versions soon
Quote from: GWR-Kris on December 17, 2013, 11:10:07 AM
If you read carefully there isnt a confirmed date. when dapol say next week in real time thats august. I hope they release some gwr versions soon
It does say before Christmas and they have got it on there Facebook Page so maybe it will be soon.
fingers crossed.
I am rather looking forward to these as well although i have 2 already because these have the different cab, Collect version I think? compared to the previous releases, piccie here -
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Simon
Well shock shock this nor the teaks that they said would be there before Christmas have not turned up :sleep:
Quote from: GWR-Kris on December 24, 2013, 11:10:59 PM
Well shock shock this nor the teaks that they said would be there before Christmas have not turned up :sleep:
You sound surprised!
Kind regards
Geoff
Does it not just wind you up, would of liked this for the holidays.
No surprises really, I've had some teaks and a Pannier on pre-order, hoped to get them for Christmas but usual promises, I'd rather they hadn't posted anything…
What's that old maxim "Over promise and under deliver" Oh no that's the wrong way round :unimpressed:
Hattons pre-owned listing shows a used Dapol 57xx panier tank in GWR green livery for £60. Don't understand how but I have just checked and it's there still now. Page 4 sorted by stock number order.
Quote from: ParkeNd on December 25, 2013, 09:17:59 AM
Hattons pre-owned listing shows a used Dapol 57xx panier tank in GWR green livery for £60. Don't understand how but I have just checked and it's there still now. Page 4 sorted by stock number order.
There it is! 6739 for £60 - bargain.
I've got 8762 on pre-order with them, already got 6739 - nice runner too.
Thanks for pointing it out, maybe one of the other members will bag it.
Quote from: shandy on December 25, 2013, 11:41:36 AM
There it is! 6739 for £60 - bargain.
Really? I've bought all 3 of mine NEW for less than that....
Cheers,
Alan
Me too but after this amount of time snd with none svailable still worth it. Not for me though.
Merry christmas
Simon
Quote from: Dr Al on December 25, 2013, 01:00:21 PM
Quote from: shandy on December 25, 2013, 11:41:36 AM
There it is! 6739 for £60 - bargain.
Really? I've bought all 3 of mine NEW for less than that....
Cheers,
Alan
Didn't you do well. I bought my black one for £59 - and now all three colours are £61 each to pre-order
but not available in stock.Or you can have a mint secondhand GWR item which probably comes with a shop guarantee and which must be all of a few days old for £60 if you don't want an undefined wait.
The absolute used bargains are no doubt about £49 each and come from ArthurDaleyLocos.com by contrast.
Quote from: ParkeNd on December 25, 2013, 08:21:34 PM
Or you can have a mint secondhand GWR item which probably comes with a shop guarantee and which must be all of a few days old for £60 if you don't want an undefined wait.
Having now owned (and dismantled) the Dapol pannier, I'd wait rather than risk a used one. Ok, it might be mint and never used, but equally, the small can motors have a relatively short lifespan, and appear to be bonded into to tanks (i.e. replacement does not look like childsplay). I'd stick with new on these as a result so it's done zero hours and has complete guarantee. Especially given the price - £60 is no bargain for a secondhand loco IMHO (I'd expect to get a Dapol A3 pacific secondhand for that).
I should say that this is in contrast to other Dapol motors - their larger open frame motor is of no concern as brushes are interchangable and there's no reason they shouldn't last for much longer. The cans are a different story.
Dapol seem to have missed a trick here and aren't quite covering the demand - the 57xx is a very popular model - the Farish ones sell for good money still and have had countless batches made both in Poole days and later by Bachmann.
Cheers,
Alan
I'm not a fan of used products myself. But the OP asked about green 57xxs and many forum members risk far greater sums than £60 on much older used locos. Hattons providing the choice to buy almost new now has to be worth recounting in the context of this thread. The reader then has a choice.
Quote from: Dr Al on December 25, 2013, 08:44:02 PM
Dapol seem to have missed a trick here and aren't quite covering the demand - the 57xx is a very popular model - the Farish ones sell for good money still and have had countless batches made both in Poole days and later by Bachmann.
Agreed, other poplar locos like Mallard and Flying Scotsman sold out in no time at all.
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Having now owned (and dismantled) the Dapol pannier, I'd wait rather than risk a used one. Ok, it might be mint and never used, but equally, the small can motors have a relatively short lifespan, and appear to be bonded into to tanks (i.e. replacement does not look like childsplay). [/quote]
Alan, I have now had to remove a motor (well thought I had to) from a 57xx and it turns out not to be as hard as we thought (didn't think to take pictures but will next time). the weight fitted to the tank behind the motor has a small amount of glue at the back end, there is a groove on each side of the weight where the wires run, I used a small screwdriver to gently lever the weight off (not much force needed no damage done) once the bond is broken slide the weight out the back followed by the motor and bracket assembly. there was no glue on the motor mounting bracket as it is a neat fit in the tank and held in place by the weight.
Poor description I know, I'll take pictures next time.
Oh, the reason I thought I had to remove it ended up being a blown decoder (keeps reading motor short, but the short is on the decoder some where) and an impatient Don who didn't test things before assuming it was the motor. Story for another day.
Don
Quote from: ParkeNd on December 25, 2013, 10:24:46 PM
I'm not a fan of used products myself. But the OP asked about green 57xxs and many forum members risk far greater sums than £60 on much older used locos. Hattons providing the choice to buy almost new now has to be worth recounting in the context of this thread. The reader then has a choice.
Someone seems to have taken the choice. It's sold.
I have bought this Pannier from a model shop, and spoke to the owner who stated if I do what it states on keeping it maintained he will gladly take it back if anything goes wrong with the loco within the 12 months of purchase, reminding me to keep my receipt in a safe place.
At the moment I am running it in at half speed in which it sounded a bit rough but after running for 5 minutes it has quietened down must be the light lubrication that has done that.
Really pleased by the finish on this loco and it certainly does look like a well made model, lets hope this is a good one.