Don't forget the clocks go back this weekend so (most of us) can have an extra hour in bed :claphappy:. Don't forget things like central heating programmers too.
Right - I'll probably forget all about it myself now :doh:
Thanks
Im on nights so get a 13 hour shift instead of 12....wonderful.
Regards
Russ
Quote from: RussellH on October 25, 2013, 11:42:37 AM
Thanks
Im on nights so get a 13 hour shift instead of 12....wonderful.
Regards
Russ
But then you get a short shift when they change back.
We flipped the other way a couple a weeks ago (clocks went forward). Still not got used to getting up an hour earlier. Does mean we get some great "light" evenings though.
However not all states change in Australia so where as before Daylight Saving people like Bealman were an hour in front, they are now an hour behind. This also applies to eBay as in we use AET (Australia Eastern Time) in South Australia, so I have to keep a careful eye on auction end times. (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-signs141.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-computer002.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
:confused2: :uneasy: ???
mmm , extra hour in bed eh' , better let the old man know ;)
mr bachmann ( may have to get up twice durring the night :D )
Quote from: newportnobby on October 25, 2013, 11:25:19 AM
Don't forget the clocks go back this weekend so (most of us) can have an extra hour in bed :claphappy:. Don't forget things like central heating programmers too.
Right - I'll probably forget all about it myself now :doh:
Apart from forgetting there is another flaw in your desire for an extra hour.
I will give you some clues:
He is ginger and white.
Has no idea about clocks going back or forward.
He will want to stick to
his time schedule and to hell with anyone else :D
I know this from 26 years experience :uneasy:
cheers John.
The extra hour in bed doesn't apply to anyone with young children either - probably the people that need it most.
Why don't we just leave the clocks alone?
COMPROMISE Why not just move them half an hour then Leave them alone forever :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:
Hi Guys,
Rolling day/night shifts means we dont necessarily get the opposite short shift at the start of the year but we seem to catch this one fairly often (complete with changing all the clocks). They did try getting the day shift in half hour early (bit like Owls compromise) but that end up in a fiasco where some did and some didnt.
Enjoy the extra hour those who can and respect to those who cant with cats, kids and the night shift.
Regards
Russ
Quote from: edwin_m on October 25, 2013, 05:00:24 PM
The extra hour in bed doesn't apply to anyone with young children either - probably the people that need it most.
Why don't we just leave the clocks alone?
But you can get them in bed an "hour" early!
There was a period (68 to 71) when this was done, with BST running all year. Many people at the time considered this to have been a success; e.g., there were reported to have been fewer road accidents (though interestingly, according to a link in the Wikipedia article the reduction may have been to do with introduction of drink/driving legislation).
In any case, the reason BST all year round didn't stay was that in Scotland this meant more long, dark mornings. This was a particular problem for farmers and they effectively lobbied against keeping BST all year round. Apparently this opposition is a bit less fierce nowadays, but given the tensions between England and Scotland at the moment, the fact the issue isn't exactly a vote-winner in Scotland means that no Westminster government will be keen to put the issue on the table right now. People in England just don't care about the issue enough to justify the risk of angering the Scots.
Cheers, NeMo
Quote from: edwin_m on October 25, 2013, 05:00:24 PM
Why don't we just leave the clocks alone?
Methinks you orl mad. Arguing over an hour. Going bed here soon... guess wots on telly.. 48 hours!!! ;D
What's betting I wake up tired tomorra.
:thumbsup:
Quote from: edwin_m on October 25, 2013, 05:00:24 PM
Why don't we just leave the clocks alone?
Iceland does exactly that.
They concluded that the business of shifting an hour made no sense and that it didn't really matter what you called "zero", and just used UTC even though in theory it's an hour or two off.
We could do the same but it would mean breaking the "9-5" model (or 9-7 these days for many as in victorian times) and having changing working hours.
Quote from: EtchedPixels
We could do the same but it would mean breaking the "9-5" model (or 9-7 these days for many as in victorian times) and having changing working hours.
Maybe it's just the way my brain works, but changing what time you do things based on the circumstances makes infinitely more sense than trying to change what time it *is*. I'd love to see a study done on just how much time is wasted on time zones, daylight savings or not, etc - especially from software developers trying to cope with the whole sorry mess, but in missed meetings, people "oversleeping", clarifying internationally what time you're *actually* trying to do something...
And don't get me started on the working hours thing... what happened to the empowering march of technology letting us get all of our work done in three days and enjoy a four-day weekend?
Quote from: NeMo on October 26, 2013, 09:29:43 AM
In any case, the reason BST all year round didn't stay was that in Scotland this meant more long, dark mornings. This was a particular problem for farmers and they effectively lobbied against keeping BST all year round. Apparently this opposition is a bit less fierce nowadays, but given the tensions between England and Scotland at the moment, the fact the issue isn't exactly a vote-winner in Scotland means that no Westminster government will be keen to put the issue on the table right now. People in England just don't care about the issue enough to justify the risk of angering the Scots.
What better way of asserting independence (small "i") in a symbolic but low risk way than for Scotland to declare itself a separate time zone?
Quote from: EtchedPixels on October 26, 2013, 10:44:35 AM
Iceland does exactly that.
They concluded that the business of shifting an hour made no sense and that it didn't really matter what you called "zero", and just used UTC even though in theory it's an hour or two off.
In Iceland, apart from a very few days in spring and autumn, it's either light for stupidly long or dark for stupidly long. That does people's heads in quite enough without having to change the clocks as well.
There has been much talk here in the papers about Spain about dropping CET and going back to the same as UK time.
Quote from: edwin_m on October 26, 2013, 11:33:08 AM
What better way of asserting independence (small "i") in a symbolic but low risk way than for Scotland to declare itself a separate time zone?
Indeed. But I daresay the business lobby would go nuts. Organising meetings, setting deadlines, synchronising product releases and all sorts of other things become more complicated.* Ironically, this is precisely the argument made for switching the UK to Central European Time, which is used across most of the EU -- though I suspect longer daylight in the evenings would be seen as a plus too, since more money is spent in the evenings after work than in the mornings before work.
Also think about issues like train travel (making a connection north or south of the border? don't forget to add/deduct an hour). Broadcasting would become more complicated too, like it is in the US, with shows being advertised at different times of the day depending on which time zone you live in (some states even have two time zones within them, so you can gain/lose an hour going to work or school if you cross the time zone boundary).
Nonetheless, I'm sure that Alex Salmond would love to have Scotland on a separate time zone from England. Don't see it happening though.
Cheers, NeMo
*Yes, I know computers can compensate for all of this automatically, and have to for all sorts of foreign trade anyway. But this is *their* argument, not mine!
I must state that's it`s purely a rumour but I heard that Scotland hopes not to change the clocks because many don't know how to with all these new fangled smart sundials that are in use today
[edit] please do not take offence Scottish members
Adjusting the sundial is easy, you just move it one house to the right ;)
cheers John.
I did think about train travel but it's do-able to have some times changing by an hour twice a year, especially as a lot of trains are now on "clockface" repeating timetables anyway. Or you could do what Amtrak does to get round the problem in the states (Arizona and parts of Indiana do not observe daylight saving) - do timetable updates in spring and autumn on the same day as the clocks.
I look forward to this time of year, especially so this year as my new job has me starting at silly o'clock every morning, but tomorrow is a rest day and the extra hour just means more sleep for me.... :claphappy: :claphappy: :claphappy:
The promise of a cooked brekkie in the morning will make sweet dreams too....!
The clocks made no difference at all. I woke up after eight and-a-half hours of sleep and was up. Then I realised that it was still only 7.40 on a Sunday morning. Oh well, more time in which to get things done.
I enjoyed the extra hour in bed, just not the misery of shorter days and coldness for the next 5 months or so >:(
Quote from: OwL on October 27, 2013, 11:36:50 AM
I enjoyed the extra hour in bed, just not the misery of shorter days and coldness for the next 5 months or so >:(
So did i, managed to get nearly 10 hours - I feel much better now... but that was the pleasure, the pain is going to work and coming home again in the dark, very depressing ! :(
Justhad an early lunch - hadn't set my watch back!
Quote from: Dorsetmike on October 27, 2013, 01:06:03 PM
Justhad an early lunch - hadn't set my watch back!
:laughabovepost:
That matches my early breakfast then.
Got into trouble this morning, enjoyed leisurely breakfast and shower, then thought I had a bit of time to fettle my A4 (Gresley not nasty Audi) before lunch.
The missus stamped into my railway room looking all stressed and confessed to having thought bad things about me, as she was rushing to get ready to meet friends for lunch and I was still playing trains ;D ;D
Smiled a little when I reminded her she had an hour more than she'd thought :-[
Sun went down an hour earlier at the wedding so it was dark by the time the speeches and food was served. Cue f/1.4 and ISO 3200 for some outdoor portraits to accompany the earlier ones!
I remember the experiment with the clocks, and driving into Guildford in the late morning gloom. The worst part was the old A3 between the Morris Depot (Wadhams) and the Stoke crossroads, when the office workers from the insurance offices were dodging the traffic, and were totally invisible. How none were killed I will never know.
My dog has also not adjusted to the new times, demanding walkies and food at the wrong times.