No I'm not going to burst into song!
I have been searching for a photographic backscene that includes real mountains but can only find them in the USA and the sheer costs are outside my means.
Anyone any ideas?
Regards Peter.
Hello Peter
What size of backscene are you talking about and what mountain ranges? One way is to download a mountain
scene from the net and have it printed poster size then mount it on board presumably to be fairly rigid at
the back of your layout. Cost would not be too great, There might also be panorama type photos, I've seen panoramas of the Alps, shape better suited to a backscene. Not sure about copyright matters.
The hills are alive!
Cheers
Allan
There are a large number of online photo libraries that you can search for a suitable image and the cost of buying a large version isn't very expensive - from about $1 (depending on size)
Some of the sites I use for my publishing business are:-
http://www.bigstockphoto.com (http://www.bigstockphoto.com)
http://depositphotos.com/ (http://depositphotos.com/)
http://www.123rf.com/ (http://www.123rf.com/)
Look for stuff which is creative commons or public domain. Lots around and if not I doubt many people will say no if you ask.
Or you could paint one ?
Quote from: EtchedPixels on September 17, 2013, 08:44:18 AM
Look for stuff which is creative commons or public domain. Lots around and if not I doubt many people will say no if you ask.
Or you could paint one ?
Thanks Alan, my painting is confined to emulsion or similar on walls! Detailed atmospheric mountains might wind up as streaky bacon!
Peter.
Quote from: Trev on September 17, 2013, 08:41:59 AM
There are a large number of online photo libraries that you can search for a suitable image and the cost of buying a large version isn't very expensive - from about $1 (depending on size)
Some of the sites I use for my publishing business are:-
http://www.bigstockphoto.com (http://www.bigstockphoto.com)
http://depositphotos.com/ (http://depositphotos.com/)
http://www.123rf.com/ (http://www.123rf.com/)
Thankyou, the 123rf looks promising!
Peter.
Quote from: Agrippa on September 17, 2013, 08:36:01 AM
Hello Peter
What size of backscene are you talking about and what mountain ranges? One way is to download a mountain
scene from the net and have it printed poster size then mount it on board presumably to be fairly rigid at
the back of your layout. Cost would not be too great, There might also be panorama type photos, I've seen panoramas of the Alps, shape better suited to a backscene. Not sure about copyright matters.
The hills are alive!
Cheers
Allan
Allan, thankyou very much.
The area would be 2 metres by 50 Cm high. The mountain is not specific just a mountainous region, fir trees and the like! I would like to disguise my terrible efforts of tunnel portals with dense trees of the conifer type!
I would stick it to the wall, permanent-like!
Regards, Peter.
Hello Peter
You can use my photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelshillabeer/sets/72157626119190212/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelshillabeer/sets/72157626119190212/) if you like!
I can send you send you jpegs. Or even the original 35mm prints to copy.
Best regards
Michael
Quote from: Michael Shillabeer on September 17, 2013, 12:58:19 PMI can send you send you jpegs if you like. Or even the original 35mm prints to copy.
Taken with a proper camera (not that I'm biased in anyway Michael...)
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Quote from: Michael Shillabeer on September 17, 2013, 12:58:19 PM
Hello Peter
You can use my photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelshillabeer/sets/72157626119190212/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelshillabeer/sets/72157626119190212/) if you like!
I can send you send you jpegs if you like. Or even the original 35mm prints to copy.
Best regards
Michael
Michael thankyou very much for the opportunity, I really like the image where there are 2 peaks on each side of the image.
Now if someone can tell me how to stretch it to 2.5 metres by 40 Cm in height and THEN print it off so I can stick it on the wall I would be most appreciative!
Regards Peter.
Quote from: d-a-n on September 17, 2013, 07:14:10 PM
Quote from: Michael Shillabeer on September 17, 2013, 12:58:19 PMI can send you send you jpegs if you like. Or even the original 35mm prints to copy.
Taken with a proper camera (not that I'm biased in anyway Michael...)
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Or perhaps I should use my Nikon SLR equipment and process the prints in my darkroom?
I reckon if you could get the required mountain and shoot Velvia 50, you would have enough resolution to print to your required size without a hitch from a very high resolution scan of the transparency using your Nikon stuff.
I'm amazed at what can come out of my Canon F1 with Velvia compared to even the output of my full frame DSLR.
Hi Peter, you probably have already tried this but I googled "Panoramic mountain backscenes" and selected "Images" and the page displayed some really nice pictures.
For example this one took my eye! http://syque.com/ds/pix/summer_hols_07/panoramas_slideshow/slideshow.php?directory=.¤tPic=10 (http://syque.com/ds/pix/summer_hols_07/panoramas_slideshow/slideshow.php?directory=.¤tPic=10)
Thanks for the memories, d-a-n :)
I had one of those passed down to me by my Dad when he got a Cosina (which I also ended up with)
Number 3 of this lot has some rugged hills
http://windward.f1p.co.uk/download/pages/Backscenes.html (http://windward.f1p.co.uk/download/pages/Backscenes.html)
I've used these and managed to do some editing of them to improve joins, I print them out at 36" x 8.5" on banner paper, you can also get sky only, also printing out same size, with a bit of editing in a photo application it should be possible to makea reasonable match, the sky sheets I have repeat evry 4th sheet, i.e. every 12'.
Do you need snowy mountains, rocky mountainsa or tree covered mountains?
Gaugemaster do some by Vollmer, but prices are close o £30 each, look rather Swiss Alpine.
http://www.gaugemaster.com/search_results.asp?searchstring=backscenes+&searchtitle=search%20results%20%20%3E%20backscenes&andor=view&method=kws_gauge&style=main&strtype=n¤tpage=3#12 (http://www.gaugemaster.com/search_results.asp?searchstring=backscenes+&searchtitle=search%20results%20%20%3E%20backscenes&andor=view&method=kws_gauge&style=main&strtype=n¤tpage=3#12)
Quote from: Mr Sprue on September 17, 2013, 08:46:37 PM
Hi Peter, you probably have already tried this but I googled "Panoramic mountain backscenes" and selected "Images" and the page displayed some really nice pictures.
For example this one took my eye! http://syque.com/ds/pix/summer_hols_07/panoramas_slideshow/slideshow.php?directory=.¤tPic=10 (http://syque.com/ds/pix/summer_hols_07/panoramas_slideshow/slideshow.php?directory=.¤tPic=10)
Thankyou, that is a brilliant image, I will save it and then find someone to print it full size, if within reasonable costings!
Warmest regards, Peter.
Quote from: petercharlesfagg on September 17, 2013, 07:18:43 PM
Quote from: Michael Shillabeer on September 17, 2013, 12:58:19 PM
Hello Peter
You can use my photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelshillabeer/sets/72157626119190212/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelshillabeer/sets/72157626119190212/) if you like!
I can send you send you jpegs if you like. Or even the original 35mm prints to copy.
Best regards
Michael
Michael thankyou very much for the opportunity, I really like the image where there are 2 peaks on each side of the image.
Now if someone can tell me how to stretch it to 2.5 metres by 40 Cm in height and THEN print it off so I can stick it on the wall I would be most appreciative!
Regards Peter.
Hello Peter
You're welcome.
I've sent you a PM.
Best regards
Michael
It might be worth contacting a local sign maker to help you with the printing Peter.
A friend of mine that does large format printing can print this sort of thing on non fade, non tear paper and the cost is reasonable
Those alpine scenes by Michael were most impressive, put mine in the shade. Should make a very nice backscene.
Must improve my landscape photography, take more time setting up a shot instead of just snapping away.
Quote from: Mr Sprue on September 17, 2013, 08:46:37 PM
Hi Peter, you probably have already tried this but I googled "Panoramic mountain backscenes" and selected "Images" and the page displayed some really nice pictures.
For example this one took my eye! http://syque.com/ds/pix/summer_hols_07/panoramas_slideshow/slideshow.php?directory=.¤tPic=10 (http://syque.com/ds/pix/summer_hols_07/panoramas_slideshow/slideshow.php?directory=.¤tPic=10)
Thankyou for the link.
I took a look at his other work and found this image :- http://syque.com/ds/show.htm?p=pix/arctic_08/080804_fiord_high_panorama_800.jpg&t=Moving%20into%20land&d=Norway%20'08 (http://syque.com/ds/show.htm?p=pix/arctic_08/080804_fiord_high_panorama_800.jpg&t=Moving%20into%20land&d=Norway%20'08)
I used to live near this massive piece of rock so it would be great to be able to use it as my backscene!
The printing of such an image baffles me so I will have to farm it out to someone more knowledgeable!!
Regards, Peter.
Hi Peter, yes indeed that is a smashing picture. May I suggest you first try out some free online software such as: http://www.dermandar.com/create.php (http://www.dermandar.com/create.php) before getting someone to do the work for you, its really not that hard.
Or just google "free online panoramic picture maker" and try out some of the free downloadable software available.
Problem for DIY printing is how big a sheet of paper your printer will take mine will do 1Mx210mm, = just over 3' x 8.5", with an A3 printer the 8.5" increases to just under 12"; most printers will only cope with A4 or A3 so you would need a lot of sheets to cover the 2 metres by 50cm quoted by Peter, and it's not always easy to hide the joins.
You need something that would print on the back or a roll of wallpaper!
You can probably get them printed as A0 size or above by most local printers that do
posters etc. Saves messing about with a home printer and forking out £££s on ink.
Most printers today will print separate sheets automatically until the final picture is printed. Matching up and joining the ends is not a big problem either, when making banners I've used PVA, Pritstick and even taped the back of the joins together.
Whats more it can be quite enjoyable too! ;)
I used a very simple technique for my backscene...which is probably quite fiddly.
I found a suitable image on Google, copied it into MS Excel for sizing, then print onto A4 card. Try hard to hide the joins as best you can!
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=889.45 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=889.45)
My sincere thanks to everyone for the wonderful replies.
My wife, (Bless her!) says that before I start thinking on backgrounds wouldn't it be better to consider actually getting trains running?
She is right, for once, or is it twice or !!!!
So I WILL use the suggestions later, perhaps next week!!
Regards Peter.
As they say "Get your motor running, head off down the highway, " Get your missus to do the electrics
and you can deal with the artistic side..... :D
Quotebefore I start thinking on backgrounds wouldn't it be better to consider actually getting trains running?
Not always the case, I chose to put my backscenes up before I got too far on the layout, The back of my layout is just on the limit of my reach (and it's "built in") so I figured do the backscenes before there's anything to knock over. I've noticed in the last few months I'm having more difficulty with reaching so looks like I made the right decision for more than the original consideration.
What is it with these spouses that think running trains is part of our act.
Anyone would think that I may actually finish somethi...
Jerry
Peter, if it helps, I used these guys for my backscene which is 12 inches by 11 feet, printed on vinyl, without seams, with delivery it was £32
http://www.e-printing.co.uk/contact.htm (http://www.e-printing.co.uk/contact.htm)
Just make sure the image you pick can stand up to being expanded to the size you want without excessive pixelation