Seems today is the right day to do the announcement :D
GWR M11 70ft stowage van
3D printed bodyshell, pre-printed sides in early GWR livery, or etched sides for those painting in the later plainer liveries. In what I believe is a first for N gauge the later etches will capture the state of the panelling on these vehicles in post war days including missing/replaced panelling.
GWR K38 57ft 'Ocean Mails' van
3D printed body shell, pre-printed sides in early GWR livery with 'Ocean Mails' branding. Etched sides for painting later plainer liveries.
GWR Clerestory Stock
3D printed body shell, pre-printed sides in GWR liveries.
BR(W) A44 Flat ended 57ft autocoach
3D printed body shell, etched sides and ends.
GWR shunters truck (7ft wheelbase)
A quick and cheap shunters truck as a one piece 3D print to fit a slightly cut down Peco brake van chassis along with etched rails.
LMS (ex LNWR) six wheel chassis
An etched fold up and glue chassis to allow the LMS CCT to be built with the other common chassis that was used.
LMS (ex LNWR) six wheel coaches
3D printed shell to fit the LNWR chassis, etched sides. LNWR printed sides may be available depending upon how difficult they are to get to look right, and how the resulting kit looks.
Revised LMS 69ft sleeper
With improved profile and end detailing.
Caledonian Railway Refrigerated Van
One part 3D print for Peco chassis.
LNER Gresley era coaches
The exact models to be produced are still being finalised and the choice depends upon a possible commission still being discussed but it will probably be one of either the Silver Jubilee coaches or Tourist stock.
SECR/SR high ended open wagon (rounded ends)
3D print to drop onto a Peco chassis
WIA car carrier
3D printed WIA car carrier including bogies and correct small sized wheels
There are some other items planned subject to time and space for commissioned projects.
Alan
Ooh, that's a good list. Especially like the idea of the 'worn' stock.
Any idea what sort of price range they're going to be?
The four wheel wagons I'd hope under a tenner, the WIA currently looks as if it'll come in at about £60-70 a set including wheels/bogies. The coaches its too early to be sure yet.
(and all of this with the 3D print also depends a lot on what the £ v â,¬ does and what Shapeways pricing changes look like)
Alan
Excellent news on the GWR front, Alan. Something to look forward to. :thankyousign: :thankyousign:
Regards
Gerry
Quote from: EtchedPixels on September 07, 2013, 11:26:05 AM
LNER Gresley era coaches
About time you got to the decent railway :D
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The exact models to be produced are still being finalised and the choice depends upon a possible commission still being discussed but it will probably be one of either the Silver Jubilee coaches or Tourist stock.
SJs ... in N ...
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Me want, me want !!!Assuming you do, any idea on timescales & costs ?
Quote from: MikeDunn on September 07, 2013, 04:11:55 PM
SJs ... in N ...
:jawdropping: :jawdropping: :jawdropping: :jawdropping: :jawdropping:
Me want, me want !!!
Assuming you do, any idea on timescales & costs ?
Owwww ;)
The numbers we are kicking around are of the order of £6-700 a set (including bogies/coach interiors) for 5-10 sets. This is one reason why its still under considerable discussion !
The tourist stock on the other hand doesn't need to come in such a big set, have less awkward bits, and they have a lot of commonality between vehicles as well as few "special" details - mostly that the North East area ones had extra beer storage !
Ouch :( That's a lot more than I'm paying for my brass OO set I'm constructing ... near on double :(
Hmmm, now could I get away with an LMS six-wheeler as a gang coach in a late 60's engineers train?
Yes. Yes I could. :D
Mike - the problem is the 5-10. N is a small market.
Looking forward to the Arbel WIAs!
Cheers, Mike
Remind me Alan, as my wagon recognition skills are poor. Are those WIA wagons the blue 'poly-tunnel' car carriers on rails?
I would like some of these, so thanks for the announcement :thumbsup:
I may well be interested in the GWR Clerestory Stock. When did they finally leave regular service?
The 6w chassis has certainly got my interest. :thumbsup:
I wonder what the length/wheelbase is?
Quote from: OwL on September 08, 2013, 11:56:43 PM
Are those WIA wagons the blue 'poly-tunnel' car carriers on rails?
Hi Owl
Yes, that's right.
Cheers, Mike
Quote from: GrahamB on September 09, 2013, 08:22:02 AM
I may well be interested in the GWR Clerestory Stock. When did they finally leave regular service?
1930s for some of the later design. Odd ones hung around far longer with some of the C10s managing to survive into the 1950s a few then becoming departmental stock. There are a few Dean clerestories at Didcot, one fully restored.
There is also one "oddity" set - the Glyncorrwg miners train (see the back of the GWR autocoach book). That was a three coach trailer set formed of Clerestory stock until scrapping in 1957.
Quote from: Moogle
The 6w chassis has certainly got my interest. :thumbsup:
I wonder what the length/wheelbase is?
30'1" with 10ft between the axle centres.
Alan
:thankyousign: Alan.
I think there might be a few Irish 6 wheelers that will suit that. :thumbsup:
:hmmm: Book consulting time... :)
Quote from: moogle on September 09, 2013, 05:47:17 PM
:thankyousign: Alan.
I think there might be a few Irish 6 wheelers that will suit that. :thumbsup:
:hmmm: Book consulting time... :)
There are a collection of them that use the same chassis as I understand it (barring the gauge) an indeed basically the same body too. The DN&GR and in turn the GNR had a batch built at Wolverton in 1901. I gather one of them is in the museum in Ulster somewhere but more I know not.
As a complete ignoramus can somebody point me in the general direction of some images?
I have no idea what the items are!
Regards, Peter.
:thankyousign:
Quote from: EtchedPixels on September 09, 2013, 05:57:10 PM
Quote from: moogle on September 09, 2013, 05:47:17 PM
:thankyousign: Alan.
I think there might be a few Irish 6 wheelers that will suit that. :thumbsup:
:hmmm: Book consulting time... :)
There are a collection of them that use the same chassis as I understand it (barring the gauge) an indeed basically the same body too. The DN&GR and in turn the GNR had a batch built at Wolverton in 1901. I gather one of them is in the museum in Ulster somewhere but more I know not.
Yes, it's the Ulster Folk and Transport Museum in Belfast. Well worth a look - a fine selection of Irish broad and narrow gauge stock. I say broad but of course to us 5'3" is simply standard gauge!
There are also a few 6 wheel coaches in the collections of the Railway Preservation Society of Ireland and the Downpatrick Steam Railway
The GWR shunters truck would certainly be interesting if its the type that lasted into the 1960s?
Any chance of a Devon Belle observation car in Pullman livery?
Lots of lovely GWR stuff there Alan so I will definitely be watching out for future production updates.
Quote from: Chris in Prague on September 15, 2013, 09:30:10 AM
The GWR shunters truck would certainly be interesting if its the type that lasted into the 1960s?
Yes (well its generic). The real ones came in several batches with quite complex underframe and brake differences. There is a superb Masterclass Models etched kit for those who care. I plan to simply do the body for the Peco chassis and the two typical handrail variants (straight and bent)
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Any chance of a Devon Belle observation car in Pullman livery?
Not on my plans. I think you could probably scratch build a reasonable version given the very angular shape. Build a shell out of clear plastic sheet and then vinyl the livery.
I'd be tempted to start with one of the old clear 101 DMU shells I think. They are pretty angular but maybe a little too short.
It would actually be very hard to do as an etched or 3D printed kit because of the sheer amount of open space only supported by the glazing.
Thanks for the reply, Etched Pixels. So, I'll put the GWR shunters truck on my to-buy-list.
Thank you too for the reply re: the Devon Belle observation car. I understand; that makes perfect sense. Could you, though, make the vinyl transfers? (I'm not familiar with this technology.)
Probably - although with the thin edge something like the new style vinyls Electra Railway Graphics do would probably be much easier to get right and apply - worth asking Adam once you've got a set of sizes perhaps ?
Thanks for your quick reply. Constructing a Devon Belle observation car is a medium-term project so I'll leave it, for now.
Quote from: MikeDunn on September 07, 2013, 05:15:53 PM
Ouch :( That's a lot more than I'm paying for my brass OO set I'm constructing ... near on double :(
Some progress here. Kevin Knight on the yahoo group notes that you can get the body or body/underframes in 2mm from Bill Bedford as a special order. He may well do N as well if you ask nicely.
Price for body/underframe is £57 for each 3 car set, and £39 for the FK/BFK pair. You'll still need to find/build all the other bits but its probably a better starting point.
Do you have any time frame for production yet Alan so that I can start saving the pennies ?
The ones I'm particularly interested in are the GWR M11 70ft stowage van, the GWR K38 57ft 'Ocean Mails' van, the GWR Clerestory Stock and, of course, the GWR shunters truck.
Quote from: EtchedPixels on September 16, 2013, 01:59:10 PM
Some progress here. Kevin Knight on the yahoo group notes that you can get the body or body/underframes in 2mm from Bill Bedford as a special order. He may well do N as well if you ask nicely.
Cheers - I have some of his kits, but didn't realise he did suitable underframes :)
I'd hope early in the year or maybe Christmas this year for the shunters truck and maybe the M11, early 2014 for the K38. Clerestory stock late 2014 - much to do on that front yet.
It's hard to be sure. It doesn't take much to shift it a couple of months in either direction.
Alan
Thanks Alan. Sounds as though it's time to start dropping Christmas prezzie hints to SWMBO. ::)
Shunters truck now done and out. M11 in theory completed but I need to assemble the final test one and write instructions ( :veryangry:)
Alan
Quote from: EtchedPixels on September 07, 2013, 11:26:05 AM
SECR/SR high ended open wagon (rounded ends)
3D print to drop onto a Peco chassis
Hmm... That's about the only one that fits in with what I'm attempting to model. But it fits in so very well. ;)
Quote from: EtchedPixels on September 07, 2013, 11:26:05 AM
Revised LMS 69ft sleeper
With improved profile and end detailing.
And maybe that one as a novelty piece. I doubt the Somerset & Dorset and Bournemouth West saw many sleepers, but I'm willing to sneak in just one.
M11 done and LNER F4 done.
I think that's it for now until sanity returns after Christmas.
Alan