I haven't seen a dedicated thread for this kind of material so I thought it might be handy, along the lines of show your latest loco purchase, or kit built locos. Be assured that this thread has nothing to do with false teeth, hip replacements, pacemakers, or bionic limbs. ;)
I stumbled across this supplier offering replacement spoked wheels on eBay, but I can't comment on the quality of the replacement wheels they're offering or on their suitability. What do you think?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PECO-NR-101-N-SCALE-Spoked-Wheels-On-Axles-Hardlon-Mouldings-4-AXLES-8-WHEELS/171019062575?_trksid=p2047675.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D555001%26algo%3DPW.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D29%26meid%3D999795004445283016%26pid%3D100010%26prg%3D1013%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D300955166944%26 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PECO-NR-101-N-SCALE-Spoked-Wheels-On-Axles-Hardlon-Mouldings-4-AXLES-8-WHEELS/171019062575?_trksid=p2047675.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D555001%26algo%3DPW.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D29%26meid%3D999795004445283016%26pid%3D100010%26prg%3D1013%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D300955166944%26)
Peter
Usual disclaimer here but they cost £2.50 from Peco stockists.
I personally prefer the farish wheels. They look better and have metal tyres, so reduce the amount of track cleaning needed.
If only dapol would offer their recent spoked wagon wheels as spares - they really are much better visually than anything else out there at the moment.
I had 2 sets (ordered from a firm down near Ford open prison) last Saturday and will open up one set and see what they are like...................
3 spruce (?) mouldings on the axles need removing carefully to tidy things up
B2B measurements a fraction tight but I think it should do ok
cone bearing points look ok but I do wonder how they will last being made of plastic
I think they will be ok for my usage but remember all my modelling follows Rule 1 whilst others may condemn various aspects of them
Ebay prices seem a tad high to me
Quote from: Rabs on September 02, 2013, 11:47:25 AM
I personally prefer the farish wheels. They look better and have metal tyres, so reduce the amount of track cleaning needed.
If only dapol would offer their recent spoked wagon wheels as spares - they really are much better visually than anything else out there at the moment.
Hi
I got rid of all my plastic wheels years ago because the plastic wheels seem to attract far more dirt than metal ones thus requiring more time spent cleaning wheels and track.
Cheers
Paul
Have to admit I don't use those Peco wheels either, have packs of Metal Tyred ones from Parkside Dundas. They do Disc, 3 hole disc, spoked curved or straight in several different sizes- currently have a pack of 20 off PN53 6.2mm solid disc wheels in stock
Order direct from PD and their current P&P is £2.00(UK only) regardless of order size P & P price was correct as of last week.
I certainly seem to have started something... :D
The weight of opinion seems to be leaning towards metal wheels, but Parkside Dundas doesn't seem to be that cheap, not in this shop, at least:
http://www.lendons.co.uk/index.asp?search=Railways&showorder=partnumber&check=yes&searchme=Hornby%20Spares%20-%20Wheels%20And%20Bogies (http://www.lendons.co.uk/index.asp?search=Railways&showorder=partnumber&check=yes&searchme=Hornby%20Spares%20-%20Wheels%20And%20Bogies)
Metal wheels are about a pound an axle except for the Bachfar packs of spoked iff you can find them. Dundas, ATM and Ultima all carry wheels
Quote from: Pete33 on September 02, 2013, 02:59:08 PM
I certainly seem to have started something... :D
The weight of opinion seems to be leaning towards metal wheels, but Parkside Dundas doesn't seem to be that cheap, not in this shop, at least:
http://www.lendons.co.uk/index.asp?search=Railways&showorder=partnumber&check=yes&searchme=Hornby%20Spares%20-%20Wheels%20And%20Bogies (http://www.lendons.co.uk/index.asp?search=Railways&showorder=partnumber&check=yes&searchme=Hornby%20Spares%20-%20Wheels%20And%20Bogies)
http://www.parksidedundas.co.uk/ (http://www.parksidedundas.co.uk/)
Quote from: EtchedPixels on September 02, 2013, 03:03:03 PM
Metal wheels are about a pound an axle except for the Bachfar packs of spoked iff you can find them. Dundas, ATM and Ultima all carry wheels
Hi
Parkside Dundas wheels are £1.45 a pair of axles (72.5p) or £13.95 for 20 axles which is 69.5p each.
Cheers
Paul
And, for completeness, the farish ones are about 70p an axle and are available on Ebay and http://www.brlines.com/products.php?section=2 (http://www.brlines.com/products.php?section=2) to name two options. They come in solid, 3 hole and spoked varieties and are blackened.
Quote from: Oldman on September 02, 2013, 02:48:12 PM
Have to admit I don't use those Peco wheels either, have packs of Metal Tyred ones from Parkside Dundas. They do Disc, 3 hole disc, spoked curved or straight
How would a fella know which type - solid, spoked, 3-hole - is correct for a given wagon?
As a very general rule, which has exceptions: spoked for unfitted wagons (most steam era), 3-hole for most wagons post steam, solid for coaches. As always, if in doubt, find a picture of what you are modelling. Also most coaches have larger wheels than wagons due to the higher speed. Most N gauge wagons use 6.2mm wheels and most coaches use 7mm.
That's perfect, Rabs, thanks!
Not much to add to that.. modem coaches ... mark 2 onwards and mark 1 with B4 bogies use smaller 6.2mm wheels. Some higher speed freight used 7mm wheels - notably HAA wagons.
Nowdays the better quality bearings mean larger wheels don't have to be used. Larger wheels of course rotate more slowly for a given speed. Smaller wheels are lighter which reduces unsprung load.
Old coach types often used Mansell wheels and disc wheels are the best match there off the shelf.
Spoked btw mostly fell out of favour with the addition of train braking as they are much less able to dissipate heat.
Alan
Quote from: EtchedPixels on September 02, 2013, 06:00:57 PM
Spoked btw mostly fell out of favour with the addition of train braking as they are much less able to dissipate heat.
I'm modelling late 50s/early 60s steam era, so would spoked still be used, Alan?
As Alan says, if the wagons were vacuum brake fitted they would probably have 3 hole wheels. If they are unfitted they are likely to have spoked wheels (these would not have been changed in most cases). In that period I believe that it could be either, so best find some pictures.
Quote from: AndyGif on September 02, 2013, 03:05:55 PM
http://www.parksidedundas.co.uk/ (http://www.parksidedundas.co.uk/)
So
that's where my pre-assembled wagon kits came from :claphappy:
Thanks, Andy.