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Title: NN3
Post by: sean Half-pint works on July 26, 2013, 09:59:46 PM
Hi all, i do not know if this has been aired before, but are there any other modelers on hear interested in NN3 gauge, if so would it be possible to have a place to talk and share this sort of thing please??  :thankyousign:

Sean
Title: Re: NN3
Post by: Agrafarfan on July 26, 2013, 10:20:25 PM
Hi,

Is NN3 narrow gauge? If it is I'm thinking of getting the Peco NG-652 kit it's a n gauge saddle tank that runs on z gauge track but you need to get the motors from Marklin and they can be expensive.

Yeah I too would like to see a narrow gauge section if that's what you mean sorry I'm a bit newbish. Peco has got N-6.5 for narrow gauge which uses z gauge track there's a couple of kits.

Coincidently I was gonna type narrow gauge in the search thingy and I saw this thread first.  :thankyousign:

Ian
Title: Re: NN3
Post by: sean Half-pint works on July 26, 2013, 10:31:41 PM
Hi,

NN3 is indeed the narrow gauge for N gauge, I like Narrow gauge alot in all honesty. the Peco saddle tank kit is nice to do, I got one off a friend who mistook it for a 009 version (00 on 9MM track) the chassis units are getting harder to find, but there are locos in z gauge on EBAY that can be 'caniblised' for the job

BTW Ian, just so you have a heads up, some needle files, and a sense of humor are needed, this is the smallest kit I have come accross yet, but with a little care it comes out like a properly beautiful loco

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-9OIkoLdrT0c/UfGG46AJGxI/AAAAAAAAB4w/RZOPsxM6kWw/s720/IMG_2479.JPG)

the other tank loco is in OO gauge,

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gFRlGp0JRQc/UfGHXX149RI/AAAAAAAAB44/-d_J1aTeu4M/s720/IMG_2481.JPG)

You are right that the Narrow gauge for N is on Z gauge track, AKA 6.5MM,  although it is called NN3 gauge for some reason! there are the two peco kits which are British outline,  also you can get a lot of American stuff in gauge.

I find the search a little confusing, so I posted here and hope if its in the wrong place  the mods will move it, or tell me where it should be put.

:NGaugersRule: :NGaugersRule: :NGaugersRule: :NGaugersRule:

Sean
Title: Re: NN3
Post by: Oldman on July 26, 2013, 10:34:26 PM
Use the search for Nn3.
Marklin Z gauge chassis and either Peco flexitrack or Marklin track.
Some stuff available from shapeways,Republic Locomotive Works.
Suitable donor loco chassis usually £60.00 plus as complete locos(secondhand)
Otherwise I know nowt
Title: Re: NN3
Post by: Sprintex on July 26, 2013, 10:36:05 PM
Is there a difference between Nn3 and Nm? Both are N gauge on Z track, and I have basic plans for a Swiss Nm layout once I finish the current one ;)


Paul
Title: Re: NN3
Post by: Agrafarfan on July 26, 2013, 10:45:20 PM
Quote from: sean Half-pint works on July 26, 2013, 10:31:41 PM
Hi,

NN3 is indeed the narrow gauge for N gauge, I like Narrow gauge alot in all honesty. the Peco saddle tank kit is nice to do, I got one off a friend who mistook it for a 009 version (00 on 9MM track) the chassis units are getting harder to find, but there are locos in z gauge on EBAY that can be 'caniblised' for the job

BTW Ian, just so you have a heads up, some needle files, and a sense of humor are needed, this is the smallest kit I have come accross yet, but with a little care it comes out like a properly beautiful loco

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-9OIkoLdrT0c/UfGG46AJGxI/AAAAAAAAB4w/RZOPsxM6kWw/s720/IMG_2479.JPG)

the other tank loco is in OO gauge,

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gFRlGp0JRQc/UfGHXX149RI/AAAAAAAAB44/-d_J1aTeu4M/s720/IMG_2481.JPG)

You are right that the Narrow gauge for N is on Z gauge track, AKA 6.5MM,  although it is called NN3 gauge for some reason! there are the two peco kits which are British outline,  also you can get a lot of American stuff in gauge.

I find the search a little confusing, so I posted here and hope if its in the wrong place  the mods will move it, or tell me where it should be put.

:NGaugersRule: :NGaugersRule: :NGaugersRule: :NGaugersRule:

Sean

That looks really interesting thanks, I need to shrink my hands I think lol. I was thinking about getting some z scale track and do a little end to end track.
Title: Re: NN3
Post by: Oldman on July 26, 2013, 10:47:06 PM
Paul Nm is actually more accurate using Z gauge.
However everone seems to use Z gauge for most narrow gauge because that was all that was available at the start.
Title: Re: NN3
Post by: sean Half-pint works on July 26, 2013, 10:52:25 PM
Oldman: thanks for that, I will have a look at Peco and see if I can get some Z gauge track to play with! I ordered one of the Republic loco works NN3 micro motor thingys for me to try and scratch build a little diesel shunter as a companion for the saddle tank.

Agrafarfan: I found my hands were about 4 sizes to big (I take a XXL motor bike glove!) I just used a pair of tweesers and a little gentle persuasion with a needle file or two. HTH!

Sean
Title: Re: NN3
Post by: Oldman on July 26, 2013, 11:00:26 PM
Sean pm me and I will give you some ideas.
Nn3 on Willow brickworks, Hong Kong Tram motorized, Gradually cutting up my old Z gauge locos.
However I also have Zm which is Z narrow gauge.
Title: Re: NN3
Post by: sean Half-pint works on July 26, 2013, 11:14:14 PM
 :pmsign:

Thanks again Oldman,

the Narrow gauge I have worked with is 009, so NN3 presents a new set of challenges for me.
I will have a look at the Willow Brickworks,

Narrow gauge to Z gauge, now there is a tiny tiny model!

Sean
Title: Re: NN3
Post by: EtchedPixels on July 26, 2013, 11:50:36 PM
NN3 is "big" - NN15 is more fun ! - 15" gauge modelled in N using T gauge parts - 3mm track!

Alan
Title: Re: NN3
Post by: sean Half-pint works on July 27, 2013, 12:19:30 AM
HAHA, that does sound Highly amusing! What scale does that work out as (I have half an idea forming, but i need to know the scales to work it out.)

Thanks Alan.

Sean
Title: Re: NN3
Post by: EtchedPixels on July 27, 2013, 08:49:40 PM
T is 1:450 scale

T scale track is 3mm (actually 3.1mm) so comes out as pretty much bang on 18" gauge, and looks pretty good for 15" gauge style stuff.

Title: Re: NN3
Post by: sean Half-pint works on July 27, 2013, 09:16:41 PM
3MM in 1:72 is 9 inches... damn thats perfect for what I have in mind  :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:

I can see why you would say it looks amazing as both 18 and 15 inch gauge to!

Thanks for that Etched Pixels...
Title: Re: NN3
Post by: FourWheelCoach on March 28, 2016, 06:16:41 PM
I'm planning to incorporate some nn3 on my layout. Can anybody tell me what the absolute steepest gradient a Marklin 0-6-0  chassis will climb hauling a couple of wagons?

Cheers.
Title: Re: NN3
Post by: Richard @ N'Tastic Scale Models on March 28, 2016, 06:36:15 PM
I would try to avoid gradients in all model railway settings, but the Z gauge locos are very good chassis particularly if you get the newer 5 pole motor.

Can I also point out that I still have available my 3D printed wagons www.countyrollingstock.co.uk (http://www.countyrollingstock.co.uk)

If buying Marklin chassis try to get the 5 pole motor chassis if possible, identifiable by having lots of cogs on show on the underside of the loco. From memory the 3 pole has 2or3 cogs the 5 pole more than that.
Title: Re: NN3
Post by: FourWheelCoach on March 28, 2016, 06:43:00 PM
Quote from: Formerly NtasticShop on March 28, 2016, 06:36:15 PM
I would try to avoid gradients in all model railway settings, but the Z gauge locos are very good chassis particularly if you get the newer 5 pole motor.

Can I also point out that I still have available my 3D printed wagons www.countyrollingstock.co.uk (http://www.countyrollingstock.co.uk)

If buying Marklin chassis try to get the 5 pole motor chassis if possible, identifiable by having lots of cogs on show on the underside of the loco. From memory the 3 pole has 2or3 cogs the 5 pole more than that.

Yes it's either have a steep gradient or do without I think in this case. Very helpful to know about the different marklin chassis. I had already planned on using your kits! :)