Is anybody else thoroughly enjoying radio coverage of the ashes whilst modelling. I had an excellent couple of sessions today at the club listening to Yorkshiremen talk about Yorkshire batsman scoring runs for England. Meanwhile I got some wiring done. Marvellous.
Having been a cricket fan for far more years then I want to think about, it's nice to be sorting the Aussies out (again). :smiley-laughing:
Waits for the Aussies to come back at me :wave:
Quote from: mereman on July 20, 2013, 04:51:18 PM
Waits for the Aussies to come back at me :wave:
After the way they played yesterday I should think they're all cringing (should there be an 'e' in there somewhere :dunce:)
Have yet to see todays play as I don't (and never will have Sky) so catch each days play on Channel 5
Quote from: newportnobby on July 20, 2013, 05:22:44 PM
Quote from: mereman on July 20, 2013, 04:51:18 PM
Waits for the Aussies to come back at me :wave:
After the way they played yesterday I should think they're all cringing (should there be an 'e' in there somewhere :dunce:)
Have yet to see todays play as I don't (and never will have Sky) so catch each days play on Channel 5
Yes, me too. Used to have sky, realised I was forking out over 700 quid a year for it which could be much better spent on toy trains! But I do enjoy listening to it on the radio cos I can be playing with said toys at the same time.
As for Aussies being beat, well being from Yorkshire I'm far more bothered about how our boys play in either team ( not that there are any yorkshiremen playing for Aus, but Darren Lehmen used to play for us). But there was some pretty poor cricket all round yesterday.
I watch the highlights as well. Usually feeding babies at that time which means I have to replay nearly every wicket!
Kirky
Never had Sky and hell will freeze over before I get it. I'm trying to remember the last player from Norfolk to play for England. John Edrich or Peter Parfitt I think. Long time ago now :)
Quote from: mereman on July 20, 2013, 06:53:55 PM
Never had Sky and hell will freeze over before I get it. I'm trying to remember the last player from Norfolk to play for England. John Edrich or Peter Parfitt I think. Long time ago now :)
Back to theme of cricket on radio, Henry Blofeld is from down your way I believe, 'my dear old thing'. And still wields a very straight bat!
Cheers
Kirky
Yep Blowers is one of us :D I also have his autograph, You are never to old to have hero worship :)
He talks like he does on the radio in real life. I was "my dear old thing" when I chatted to him. He has done some local radio cricket in the days when the minor counties could play the first class counties in the old 60 over knock out cup (had a few names over the years). I even went to Grace road and Old Trafford to follow Norfolk. Good days but money talked and minor counties are not a big draw.
Super days play for the England team and (methinks) an unassailable lead built up so I'm sure Cook will declare sometime in the morning.
Why on earth didn't the Aussies take the new ball when it became available ???
Quote from: newportnobby on July 20, 2013, 08:56:29 PM
Super days play for the England team and (methinks) an unassailable lead built up so I'm sure Cook will declare sometime in the morning.
Why on earth didn't the Aussies take the new ball when it became available ???
I think they thought they could get more spin from the worn ball. Unfortunately they haven't got the jiggery pokery of Shane Warne to rely on.
Kirky
Quote from: kirky on July 20, 2013, 09:09:37 PM
Unfortunately they haven't got the jiggery pokery of Shane Warne to rely on.
Kirky
Nearly made a comment there about Liz Hurley but remembered I have to behave :-X
Quote from: newportnobby on July 20, 2013, 09:21:12 PM
Quote from: kirky on July 20, 2013, 09:09:37 PM
Unfortunately they haven't got the jiggery pokery of Shane Warne to rely on.
Kirky
Nearly made a comment there about Liz Hurley but remembered I have to behave :-X
You behave Nobby... impossible :D
Quote from: newportnobby on July 20, 2013, 09:21:12 PM
Nearly made a comment there about Liz Hurley but remembered I have to behave :-X
It has been a while since you mentioned her Mick, I though you must have had a tiff with her and she had stopped popping round for a cuppa ;)
Looks like the Aussies are making a bit of a fight of it, 134 for 4 at the moment.
Anyone noticed the lack of comments on this thread from our Australian friends ;) ;)
Regards
Neal.
Quote from: Calnefoxile on July 21, 2013, 03:23:19 PM
Looks like the Aussies are making a bit of a fight of it, 134 for 4 at the moment.
Anyone noticed the lack of comments on this thread from our Australian friends ;) ;)
Regards
Neal.
I kept my head down in the past when the boot was on the other foot :D
Quote from: Calnefoxile on July 21, 2013, 03:23:19 PM
Looks like the Aussies are making a bit of a fight of it, 134 for 4 at the moment.
Anyone noticed the lack of comments on this thread from our Australian friends ;) ;)
Regards
Neal.
165/8 now.
I think Australia might be going 2 nil down.
Is the large female warming her vocal chords yet ;D ;D
Regards
Neal.
She's warbling :D :D :D :D
Erm, seems to be a bit quiet in this thread today :-[ :-[
Thought the Aussies amongst us, would be prodding us with big sticks at the moment.
Regards
Neal.
At least they're still 2-0 down in the series. :)
Knowing the Manchester weather it will be a draw :-X
Quote from: newportnobby on August 02, 2013, 08:26:15 PM
Knowing the Manchester weather it will be a draw :-X
I tell Mrs mereman that, then she hits me, shes from Manchester :laugh3:
Check the statistics... Manchester has the most drawn tests !
Quote from: Calnefoxile on August 02, 2013, 03:34:50 PM
Thought the Aussies amongst us, would be prodding us with big sticks at the moment.
Regards
Neal.
I think nowadays the Aussies know better than to take the mickey out of British sports teams of various disciplines. Lets face it, in the last few years the guys and Girls from Oz have really been stumped at competitive level sports. Their recent Olympic team effort proved that! LoL :D
Its sad to say that Australian Radio Disc Jockey's are more famous internationally than most of their sport playing countrymen, albeit for completely different reasons :doh:
Sorry to be so late joining such an important thread - 1st test obviously so exciting as with 2nd but .... always felt the Aussies at some point in series will begin to play like Aussies, and like Aussies in an Ashes test - Ce la Vie, here they are!
As Pietersen seems to be going well (his current form hasn't been good) I'd say the pitch is a batsmans paradise :D
Quite agree Mereman, IGJAM is doing okay today but we do need him to be the more positive of himself, like the Aussies, we need him, KP to be KP in sensible team conscious mode, yea?
Just hop Bell can keep doing what he does best - prayed last night that we could just score on 2 balls per over, both of those to be 4's - 80 overs for 640 in the day would have sorted them out - but I do like to dream, day or night!
Regards
David
Big thread bump!!!!
England all out for 67?!!
They seem to be doing a bit better at Headingly, though....
Just about to start, no sleep for Bealman ;)
6 year bump!!! ???
That has to be a record surely?
when I were a lad and played the game ......
we wore WHITES, not some technicolour mish mash
we didn't have numbers on our backs
and a good stroke was greeted with cries of 'well played', not a deafening blast of some pop song.
but then, I'm getting old and grumpy.
Don't know about pop songs but we're doing OK at the moment.
Maybe this is more appropriate....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbsuAbTTsV8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbsuAbTTsV8)
Forget the Yank on the cover and hope I haven't kiss of deathed it :worried:
Anyway, Come on England! :claphappy:.
Sorry, class 30725.... Come on chaps, a few cucumber sandwiches at lunch and we might even beat these Antipodean rotters :D
Cheers weave :beers:
Well as I type i'm eating lunch, listening to TMS and Headingly is serving up yet another fine ashes match.
Usually on a Sunday afternoon the kids are packed off to the in-laws and I get some modelling time in. This afternoon, I'm glued to the radio (or whatever satellite channel number it is these days).
And England just lose a wicket to a run out. That it I reckon.
Hi all,
England still have a chance with Stokes in, as long as he has someone at the other end. Archer makes me nervous when he swings and misses at those ones down the leg side..
But those two boundaries...! Nail-biting stuff!
cheers
Ben A.
Wow!
Unbelievable!
What a fightback stokes and j leach proved he can bat. Now for old trafford
I didn't think I'd ever see anything as incredible and unbelievable as the World Cup Final again, but I just did :o :o
Ben Stokes was phenomenal, and Jack Leach, 1 not out in a partnership of 76....WOW
:beers: :beers: :beers: :beers: :beers: :beers: :beers: :beers: :beers:
Yay :claphappy:
And there was me thinking I had kiss of deathed it.
Yay again :claphappy: Cheers weave :beers:
A true team effort with bat 2nd time around. Do nt forget thn bowling of joffra archer, the spirit of 81 and 2005
Quote from: crewearpley40 on August 25, 2019, 05:37:07 PM
A true team effort with bat 2nd time around. Do nt forget thn bowling of joffra archer, the spirit of 81 and 2005
Hopefully they can put past glories to bed now and play for the future ;)
Quote from: class37025 on August 25, 2019, 12:38:03 PM
when I were a lad and played the game ......
we wore WHITES, not some technicolour mish mash
we didn't have numbers on our backs
and a good stroke was greeted with cries of 'well played', not a deafening blast of some pop song.
but then, I'm getting old and grumpy.
I know they have names and numbers on their backs now but everything else you've cited is not in the test matches but the one day/limited over stuff.
I freely admit to getting somewhat excited about the victory today but still have no confidence the team will have learned from it and some will still wave their bat at wide balls they could leave alone. Far too may wickets given away easily. I just love the way Geoff Boycott tells it as it should be told.
Stunned silence from the antipodes :unimpressed:
Whilst not in any way wishing to detract from England's win and Ben Stokes' superb innings, I tend to agree with Nobby on this one. The reasons that we had to undertake such a run chase were firstly, the disastrous first innings of 67 and secondly, the total contribution of 33 runs made by the so-called openers over the two innings. Neither of the Australian totals was particularly overwhelming and it was the England batsmen's inability to get in and stay in that led to the 359 deficit in the fourth innings and the subsequent need for Stokes to produce the magnificent rescue job that he did. The fault in my view lies with the amount of limited over cricket being played at the expense of the longer game. We all know the reason for this and the ECB and Sky must take an equal share of the blame for a situation that can only get worse when The Hundred starts next year.In the meantime the counties are deprived of their star players for the four day games and respond by hiring overseas players in their stead. These overseas players then return to their National sides to give England a hard time on winter tours.
A final point on the 359 run chase - the total may have been a record one but the time available postulated an over rate of, I think, less that two per over and again it was the lack of "stickability" that produced the pressure on Ben Stokes. I started following cricket in the days of Hutton, Compton May et al when an over rate of anything over three was racing along and although I enjoy watching a fast moving game and wouldn't want to return to the days of Boycott being 25 not out at lunch and 35 not out at tea there is on occasions the need to play in this manner and the players should be capable of it. It would be interesting to know what percentage of Tests in the last, say, five years have gone to a fifth day.
Well, that's it I've had my rant and feel better for it. I've now got to wait for Old Trafford to see what happens next. At least I've got the Vuelta to keep me going until then.
It will be interesting to see who makes way for the returning Anderson...Woakes or Broad? I'd like to see Sam Curran back in the team but not sure how or where tbh.
Burns, Roy, Denly and Buttler are huge question marks but who replaces them? On their day they are world beaters. Hopefully after a few days off they can find their red ball form. Management need to drill into them the fact they are playing a test match and the need to apply themselves accordingly.
The long range weather forecast for Manchester isn't too good, I can see the 4th test being a draw and it all going down to the wire at the Oval
None of the media have complimented Stokes on getting the job done on the 4th day, thus allowing fans to avoid paying for entry on a 5th day to see not a lot of cricket :D
I know much depends on the state of the pitch and ball, and how tired bowlers become as the game goes on but Stokes, Buttler, Bairstow and Root are all capable of the type of innings played by Ben yesterday and have shown this in the past although maybe not in the test match arena. I noted Mr. Boycott made no suggestion of his fellow Yorkshireman being relieved of the captaincy but, and it's purely my opinion, Root is still not experienced in the role and makes dubious decisions.
Who would you have as Captain though? Stokes is a no no for me, the last time it was given to an allrounder it ended badly [Flintoff] ::) Stokes doesn't need the faff of being Captain in my view. I agree Root isn't the man for the job, but who is? :-\
Quote from: Philipp on August 26, 2019, 03:22:28 PM
Who would you have as Captain though?
I just can't answer that as the job always seems to be a poisoned chalice. Whoever wears that particular crown always seems to suffer in the playing department :hmmm:
Quote from: Newportnobby on August 26, 2019, 03:30:51 PM
Quote from: Philipp on August 26, 2019, 03:22:28 PM
Who would you have as Captain though?
I just can't answer that as the job always seems to be a poisoned chalice. Whoever wears that particular crown always seems to suffer in the playing department :hmmm:
It seems peculiar to the England team though, Kohli is doing OK, Williamson for NZ, even Smith when he was Aussie Captain. Very bizarre :confused1:
Just a fantastic - brilliant end to the game.
Quote from: port perran on August 26, 2019, 04:19:52 PM
Just a fantastic - brilliant end to the game.
Having been out most of the day and avoiding any coverage I was looking forward to watching the highlights on Ch 5 without knowing what would happen. I couldn't believe it when the Ch 5 news just before the cricket informed everyone of the result. My remote almost got hurled at the TV :veryangry2:
You expect it from other channels (like the Beeb taking great delight in telling you the F1 result before the highlights on Ch 4) but why would Ch 5 ruin the next programme?
How irritating mick. Thats why i waited after work to head home and go on the bbc website. I would have got annoyed with c5.
Quote from: Philipp on August 26, 2019, 02:58:43 PM
It will be interesting to see who makes way for the returning Anderson
Well that's that one sorted then, Anderson out for the rest of the Ashes :worried:
If Anderson is fit then, I'm sorry, but Woakes should be benched as he's not really been consistent enough for me, although he can and does contribute a few runs sometimes.
james anderson is the leading fast bowler who has taken more wickets but has not been passed fit. woakes needs a break
i would be concerned at the top 3 with need for runs, root at 4 and bring curran for variety, archer will bowl fast and quick, broad will bowl top of off and add experience. leach is proven spinner and can bat
Roy, Burns and Denley to come good against a demoralised Aussie attack.
England to win easily.
With the next tests being so late in the day I'm afraid I can see the weather playing a big part in the last two tests. The Oval test always ends in a draw anyway.
I thought that religious discussions were banned on the forum.
Quote from: Philip. on August 30, 2019, 04:56:45 PM
Quote from: Philipp on August 26, 2019, 02:58:43 PM
It will be interesting to see who makes way for the returning Anderson
Well that's that one sorted then, Anderson out for the rest of the Ashes :worried:
Beeb news this morning stated Anderson out for the Ashes so maybe no change to the bowling line up although I, too, would like to see Curran given a chance
Quote from: Newportnobby on August 31, 2019, 12:24:23 PM
Quote from: Philip. on August 30, 2019, 04:56:45 PM
Quote from: Philipp on August 26, 2019, 02:58:43 PM
It will be interesting to see who makes way for the returning Anderson
Well that's that one sorted then, Anderson out for the rest of the Ashes :worried:
Beeb news this morning stated Anderson out for the Ashes so maybe no change to the bowling line up although I, too, would like to see Curran given a chance
Who are you dropping for Curran? And are we talking Tom or brother Sam?
Personally I would replace Jason Roy with Gary Ballance. He's scoring runs for Yorkshire and has test experience. The only other play I would possibly drop is Butler, but only because his confidence has gone.
Just my thoughts
Kirky
Quote from: kirky on August 31, 2019, 02:57:53 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on August 31, 2019, 12:24:23 PM
Quote from: Philip. on August 30, 2019, 04:56:45 PM
Quote from: Philipp on August 26, 2019, 02:58:43 PM
It will be interesting to see who makes way for the returning Anderson
Well that's that one sorted then, Anderson out for the rest of the Ashes :worried:
Beeb news this morning stated Anderson out for the Ashes so maybe no change to the bowling line up although I, too, would like to see Curran given a chance
Who are you dropping for Curran? And are we talking Tom or brother Sam?
I'd drop Woakes in favour of Sam Curran for the next test
team :
roy
burns
root
denly
stokes
buttler
bairstow
woakes
archer
broad
leach
as it stands
pope for roy in his place
denly at 3
root at 4
curran for woakes
leach at 10
broad 11
Pope has hardly batted this season, not enough runs under his belt for me.
I would leave Woakes, he's the kind of player who can put in some sterling spells and turn games. He's also very popular in the dressing room, and these days when psychology in sport is so important, that means something.
Agree that Roy has to go.
Cheers
you advocating
burns
denly
ballance
root
buttler
stokes
bairstow
woakes
archer
leach
broad
curren 12th
It's all academic. You know the little urn is coming downunder, don't ya. ;D ;)
Quote from: crewearpley40 on August 31, 2019, 07:47:31 PM
you advocating
burns
denly
ballance
root
buttler
stokes
bairstow
woakes
archer
leach
broad
curren 12th
yup
Quote from: Bealman on August 31, 2019, 11:20:00 PM
It's all academic. You know the little urn is coming downunder, don't ya. ;D ;)
Hi George,
I was going to say, on another thread, Happy Fathers Day to you but now I shan't. Turncoat. :D
Quote from: Bealman on August 31, 2019, 11:20:00 PM
It's all academic. You know the little urn is coming downunder, don't ya. ;D ;)
Sadly I tend to agree. :( :(
I'm really not sure some of our batsmen have now learned not to flail the bat at balls way outside the off stump ::) I'll be very happy to be proved wrong.
lets wait and see what happens at manchester
hoping mick,lewis will win in belgium today
England's squad for the fourth Ashes Test:
Joe Root (c), Jofra Archer, Jonny Bairstow (wk), Stuart Broad, Rory Burns, Jos Buttler, Sam Curran, Joe Denly, Jack Leach, Ben Stokes, Chris Woakes, Craig Overton, Jason Roy.
No Pope or Ballance, so as you were for the top order, and maybe Curran in for Woakes
I just wonder if, having won last time (just) England will stick with the same team.
It might be llast chance saloon for Jason Roy who seems entrenched in the one day game and unable to resist playing shots to balls that can be left well alone.
I'd suggest Woakes stays in (as a 4th choice seamer and for his batting potential) meaning that the two to miss out are Curran and Overton (perhaps the selectors are bringing them into the squad with a view towards New Zealand and South Africa this winter.
Yes it looks like its the same squad. They obviously dont want to disrupt a winning formula :confused1:
I really hope that Jason Roy learns to play test cricket, I just dont think he has it in him.
I tend to agree that the ashes are on their way to Oz. I still think the likelihood of a result at the Oval is doubtful at best.
cheers
Joe Denly confirms he will swap with opener Jason Roy for fourth Test
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/49550240 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/49550240)
Quote from: Philip. on September 02, 2019, 12:28:43 PM
Joe Denly confirms he will swap with opener Jason Roy for fourth Test
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/49550240 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/49550240)
Oh well, I suppose that will delay Roy's misery for a few overs? :'(
Overton for Woakes :hmmm: baffled as to what Sam Curran has done wrong to be left out again
England XI for 4th Test: Rory Burns, Joe Denly, Joe Root (capt), Jason Roy, Ben Stokes, Jonny Bairstow (wk), Jos Buttler, Craig Overton, Jofra Archer, Stuart Broad, Jack Leach.
Oh well......good to see two Somerset players in the team
Good start, England!
A minute or so after it started...
Bet lots of kit kats were being dipped in Bundaberg rum right from the start :D
Oh, and again
Cheers :beers: :beers:
Quote from: Bealman on September 04, 2019, 11:04:07 AM
Good start, England!
A minute or so after it started...
If you intended to put the mockers on it then you achieved it :(
My local paper this morning....
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/81/255-060919020518-81109215.jpeg)
Yeah, beach stuff! Aussie's at home!! ;D
I hate to admit it but Smith is probably the world's best batsman.
Mind you, the bowling/fielding was pretty indifferent :unimpressed:
Same local paper today:
"Bounce no bother as Smith delivers a masterclass"
Quote from: Bealman on September 07, 2019, 06:34:32 AM
Same local paper today:
"Bounce no bother as Smith delivers a masterclass"
I've diverted a couple of F-35 Lightnings to take out the offices of that newspaper but it seems their computers won't let them even start the engines ::)
Sorry, we can't go to war today ....
cntrl - alt - del didn't work :censored:
oh for the days when it was a case of flick four switches, press four buttons, and the Vulcan was ready to go :bounce:
Quote from: class37025 on September 07, 2019, 12:47:28 PM
Sorry, we can't go to war today ....
cntrl - alt - del didn't work :censored:
oh for the days when it was a case of flick four switches, press four buttons, and the Vulcan was ready to go :bounce:
What about the "bang" as the pyro charges started the engines double quick :D
Really wish I could have witnessed a Vulcan do a QRA....
Skyline2uk
luckily I did, on many occasions, dare I mention the dreaded TACEVAL :'(
four QRAs straight off, then every other a/c on the station as soon as available.
those four QRAs were not so much heard as felt as they lifted off.
days when we had a real air force, I'm afraid.
IIRC, Hunter FGA9s when I was at Muharraq also used starter cartridges .....
much sought after as ash trays ::)
A poorly disguised attempt at changing the subject, chaps....
You still need 365 runs to win..... ;)
Quote from: Bealman on September 07, 2019, 10:58:08 PM
A poorly disguised attempt at changing the subject, chaps....
You still need 365 runs to win..... ;)
Yes indeed, it is almost certainly true (even with Ben Stokes) that Australia will deservedly win.
It would be great to call these Ashes the Stokes Ashes but I'm afraid they are Smith's Ashes. Stephen Smith is without doubt the wolrd's best current batsman. I'm not old enough to remember Bradman but he's up there with Brian Lara. Definitely a great.
As a fan of the game of cricket, I just enjoy great prowess in the game. Well done Steve Smith.
Nice words. Thank you! :thumbsup:
Although I've lived here for over two thirds of my life, I'm not an Australian citizen. My mother said you are who you are on your passport. So English I remain.
However, obviously living and working here as a permanent resident of Australia does tend to influence my support in sport! :beers:
Where I live is located only 45 minutes drive from the little town of Bowral, home of the Don, and the Donald Bradman museum (an excellent facility, well worth a look), by the way. :beers:
I'd agree with Kirky.
Smith is up there amongst the very best. I suppose we'll only discover if he's really up there amongst the True greats over time.
As for today, I doubt we'll get much beyond lunch but.......there's always hope.
Different sport I know but in the most unlikely end to a football match I've seen, Bristol City won 5-4 at Mansfield in about 1999 despite entering the 90th minute 2-4 down.
There is always hope.
Indeed! :thumbsup:
I shy away from the media as I'm only able to see the highlights at 7pm on Ch5.
Sadly the inconsistency of our bowling, batting and fielding let us down again :(
The team have their moments e.g Broad v Warner, the erratic brilliance of Stokes and the emergence of Joffra Archer but, until they can produce the goods match after match, they will always struggle. It's so damned frustrating.
Another page from my local rag, 9/9/19, just for you, Mick! :D
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/81/255-090919065146-812141475.jpeg)
Well, at least we gave it a good go on the last day.
The difference between the two sides is Smith and hats off to him.
Mind you.....Leach is pretty hard to get out!
Smith, maybe labuschagne, pattinson, aussies played better. Moments from england archer, stokes. Ok just back to the drawing board - basics
Agree. Jack leach is more capable as the nightwatchman. Would like to see s curran at the oval
Easier said than done I know, but get the top 3 sorted and we'd be a very decent team
Good luck at the Oval. :thumbsup:
I'm not being sarcastic. Looking forward to good sporting cricket. May the best team win! :beers:
Quote from: Philip. on September 09, 2019, 07:47:44 AM
Easier said than done I know, but get the top 3 sorted and we'd be a very decent team
Totally agree with this comment.
Just been having the very same discussion with a work colleague, our problem is that we don't have any Test Match specialist Batsmen anymore, far too much 1 day cricket and by that I mean 20-20.
In my ageing eyes we should have 1,2 & 3 as Specialist Test Match Batsmen, 4 onwards can be picked from the Short Format of the game as by the time they come in, hopefully, the Openers have seen off the best bowlers and taken the edge off of the ball, the Bowlers pretty much pick themselves because there isn't a great deal of difference between bowling in a Test Match and bowling in a 20, 50 or 60 over game, only real differences are more bouncers and wider balls before a Wide is called.
I understand the reasoning behind the 20-20 game but we're losing Test matches because of it and the concentration on the short form of the game, I mean they're even introducing the new 100 Format, which again is designed just to put bums on seats at Cricket grounds, will this format bring more people into the enjoying Championship Cricket over 4 days?? Doubtful in my humble opinion.
Right of my Soapbox regarding Cricket, but I do agree that Smith was the real difference between the 2 sides as the rest of the Aussie Batting is just as fragile as ours.
Cheers
Neal.
I agree with Neal's thoughts.
20-20 cricket has its place and is probably vital to the survival of cricket.
However, especially in England, Test Cricket is still huge (just see the crowd totals at each match) and we need to address that importance.
The World Cup was great but just take Root and Roy as examples. Apart from tests how many first class matches have they played?
Test cricket requires a different approach and different application by the players so they need time to prepare properly. They need to play, I'd say, at least 6 county championship matches before playing in tests.
With hindsight, maybe playing the World Cup and the Ashes in the same season was a mistake.
We can only hope that the authorities are prepared to consider changes.
The thinking processes in test match cricket are hugely different and what Martin says makes enormous sense.
Quote from: port perran on September 09, 2019, 12:59:00 PM
Test cricket requires a different approach and different application by the players so they need time to prepare properly. They need to play, I'd say, at least 6 county championship matches before playing in tests.
With hindsight, maybe playing the World Cup and the Ashes in the same season was a mistake.
We can only hope that the authorities are prepared to consider changes.
In no way would I want to go back to the the Geoff Boycott 'stay in and score 4 runs in 2 days' method but the guy does speak a lot of sense though some don't like his Yorkshire 'shoot from the hip' attitude. I was almost hoarse after just 1 hour of highlights from yelling at the TV as yet another English batsman waved his bat at a wide ball or left his bat high whilst ducking a bouncer. Obviously Stokes innings at Headingley was outstanding but no one seemed to learn from it. Some effort at restraint was made in the 2nd innings at Old Trafford but, overall, the English team have not covered themselves in glory at all this series. Just my two penn'orth
I was about to say I agree with everything that has been said regarding the English batsmen. Except Mick went and said he wouldnt want to return to Boycott type batting! I beg to differ - exactly what England needed yesterday was an impossibly slow player who doesnt play shots and stays in. Geoff fits that bill perfectly.
The lack of concentration and patience is astounding at this level. A case in point - Jason Roy's longest innings - in his entire first class career - lasted only three and half hours. And that was in 2016. He plainly is not cut out for test cricket. Test cricket is about knowing when to leave shots alone and when to defend. The batsman has to wait for the bad ball to play a shot. Its a game of the mind.
cheers
Quote from: kirky on September 09, 2019, 06:39:55 PM
I was about to say I agree with everything that has been said regarding the English batsmen. Except Mick went and said he wouldnt want to return to Boycott type batting! I beg to differ - exactly what England needed yesterday was an impossibly slow player who doesnt play shots and stays in. Geoff fits that bill perfectly.
The lack of concentration and patience is astounding at this level. A case in point - Jason Roy's longest innings - in his entire first class career - lasted only three and half hours. And that was in 2016. He plainly is not cut out for test cricket. Test cricket is about knowing when to leave shots alone and when to defend. The batsman has to wait for the bad ball to play a shot. Its a game of the mind.
cheers
Bring back Chris Tavare and David Steele.
Hi all,
Well played Australia; I think most neutrals would agree that over the course of the summer they've been the better side though England have played their part in what has been a thrilling series so far.
For me Steve Smith has been the difference; England have a match winner in Ben Stokes but it's unrealistic to expect him to be able to win every match for England; for me it was telling that when Smith was injured the player who came in (Marus Lambuchagne) was able to provide such effective cover and then keep his place.
The top order is clearly where the problem for England lies however I am not sure we can entirely blame ODIs or T20; after all Australia play these too and are hosting the 2020 T20 World Cup.
cheers
Ben A.
No doubt that Steve Smoth is an exceptional player of enormous character. To be able to come back and play with ultra concentration after what he went through with the ball tampering fiasco and then getting concust in this series, the man is somethingh special.
And apparently our vey own Sir Geoff is indeed getting the recognition he so richly deserved many moons ago. Arise Sir Geoff! https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/49641823 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/49641823)
sir andrew strauss.
well deserved -wonderful catch 2005
exeptional captain
but in our hearts for his charity work in memory of his late wife Ruth
Glad to see Sir Geoff getting richly deserved rewards.
Quote from: kirky on September 09, 2019, 06:39:55 PM
I was about to say I agree with everything that has been said regarding the English batsmen. Except Mick went and said he wouldnt want to return to Boycott type batting! I beg to differ - exactly what England needed yesterday was an impossibly slow player who doesnt play shots and stays in. Geoff fits that bill perfectly.
@kirky (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=492) I couldn't agree more. The problem is he used to do it even when it wasn't required :laugh:
Unlikely, but not impossible, I guess.....
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/81/255-120919065146-81292215.jpeg)
Quote from: Bealman on September 12, 2019, 06:54:37 AM
Unlikely, but not impossible, I guess.....
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/81/255-120919065146-81292215.jpeg)
Now I'm not sure which piece you are finding unlikely George, but if Stephen Smith needs only 303 to equal Bradmans record, I for one will be rooting for him. A colleague of mine at school told me he backed Smith to be Australia's top scorer in this test - no surprise there - but that he got 2/1 odds. Not bad odds at all considering the man's record.
Good luck Steve.
Problem is, if England keep batting the way they are at the minute, he may not need to score 303 :smiley-laughing:
It seems many of the English batsmen have learned nothing, although Marsh's bowling has been terrific. Root rode his luck more than once and I think Buttler finally decided to have some fun and to hell with the consequences but he's still there.
Just as I went to bed last night, Root had been lucky when the Aussies stuffed up two catches.
I'll "catch" up this morning! ;)
Quote from: Skyline2uk on September 07, 2019, 12:54:26 PM
Quote from: class37025 on September 07, 2019, 12:47:28 PM
Sorry, we can't go to war today ....
cntrl - alt - del didn't work :censored:
oh for the days when it was a case of flick four switches, press four buttons, and the Vulcan was ready to go :bounce:
What about the "bang" as the pyro charges started the engines double quick :D
Really wish I could have witnessed a Vulcan do a QRA....
Skyline2uk
don't know if you've seen this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js3AWp1AM94 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js3AWp1AM94)
:drool:
Quote from: class37025 on September 13, 2019, 11:05:25 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on September 07, 2019, 12:54:26 PM
Quote from: class37025 on September 07, 2019, 12:47:28 PM
Sorry, we can't go to war today ....
cntrl - alt - del didn't work :censored:
oh for the days when it was a case of flick four switches, press four buttons, and the Vulcan was ready to go :bounce:
What about the "bang" as the pyro charges started the engines double quick :D
Really wish I could have witnessed a Vulcan do a QRA....
Skyline2uk
don't know if you've seen this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js3AWp1AM94 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js3AWp1AM94)
:drool:
I have now!
Great stuff.
Skyline2uk
Meanwhile, back at The Oval I was so sorry for Denly who fell 6 runs short of his first test century. Joe Root giving catching practice to the slips was not a pretty sight ::)
Well, as Bealman finishes his last beer at Figtree bowling club, England are leading by 386 at start of play.
Looks like a possible draw!
Weather looks lovely, by the way! :beers:
England just hit a six!
All set up nicely for today.
Aussies 2 down already!
3 down :D
:claphappy:
Hats off to you Mr. Smith but :claphappy:
Great catch.
Come on England!
Cheers weave :beers:
Quote from: weave on September 15, 2019, 02:11:36 PM
:claphappy:
Hats off to you Mr. Smith but :claphappy:
Great catch.
Come on England!
Cheers weave :beers:
Glad to see the back of him :wave: should be plain sailing now.......oh it's England :doh: :D