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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: petercharlesfagg on July 08, 2013, 02:48:42 PM

Title: Faller curved viaduct number 222586
Post by: petercharlesfagg on July 08, 2013, 02:48:42 PM
Friends,
Can someone explain how Faller can advertise the title viaduct as "N" gauge when we think that 9 inch radius is the minimum?

The viaduct is shown as being 193 mm radius which equates as 7.59843 inches according to an online conversion?

Since they insist that this is correct, can someone explain just what is pictured on the box and in advertisements, "Z" gauge?

Or is it possibly ONLY bogied diesels and electrics which can negotiate such a small radius and definitely not steam locos?

Regards, _Peter.?
Title: Re: Faller curved viaduct number 222586
Post by: Oldman on July 08, 2013, 02:55:52 PM
 :hmmm:Possibly their way of marketing something not quite either scale.

2nd radius Marklin Z curves are  195mm and 1st Radius is 145mm :confused2:
Title: Re: Faller curved viaduct number 222586
Post by: Agrippa on July 08, 2013, 03:05:27 PM
On Osborns and Gaugemaster's website this item appears
as an n gauge accessory. In the Gaugemaster site it mentions
the radius , but gives the impression this applies to the centre of the viaduct.

Is the curvature uniform on this item? Might be for both gauges
depending on type of loco running on it.

regards

Allan
Title: Re: Faller curved viaduct number 222586
Post by: keerout on July 08, 2013, 04:14:59 PM
I had a quick look at Fleischmann's website, their 2nd radius= 8.88" could not find out their 1st radius, but at a guess, around 7.5" ;I think 222586 is made for Fleischmann's 1st & 2nd radius.....  :hmmm:
Hope it helps...
Gerard  :wave:
Title: Re: Faller curved viaduct number 222586
Post by: EtchedPixels on July 08, 2013, 04:37:33 PM
Our "R1" is their "R2". Most smaller continental models will do 7.5" curves.
Title: Re: Faller curved viaduct number 222586
Post by: matthijskuiper on July 08, 2013, 04:47:48 PM
Fleischmann & Marklin like to use the R1 and R2 in their scales (germany isn't that big so they have smaller curves ;) ) R1 = 7.5"  R2 = 8.8"
This is the reason Faller can advertise with such a small bridge.
Title: Re: Faller curved viaduct number 222586
Post by: Maurits71 on July 08, 2013, 05:11:08 PM
and falller is 1:160

we do 1:148 :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Faller curved viaduct number 222586
Post by: EddieA on July 09, 2013, 08:28:02 PM
Quote from: matthijskuiper on July 08, 2013, 04:47:48 PM
Fleischmann & Marklin like to use the R1 and R2 in their scales (germany isn't that big so they have smaller curves ;) ) R1 = 7.5"  R2 = 8.8"
This is the reason Faller can advertise with such a small bridge.

As my partner is German I can only say that in my view smaller curves do not figure overall but maybe only in 'certain areas'!

(but that is maybe not what was intended :bounce:)

Back on topic, my old British outline Minitrix locos (both steam and diesel) seem to be able to get around somewhat sharper curves than my, equally old, Farish locos?



Title: Re: Faller curved viaduct number 222586
Post by: cudders on July 10, 2013, 09:46:01 PM
I have one of these somewhere amongst my Ebay purchases.

I'll dig it out and check it. I'm sure it didnt look particularly sharp.

Cudders