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Title: 44422 Yellow stripe
Post by: Tom@Crewe on June 23, 2013, 07:10:16 AM
I have found quite a number of pictures of 44422 with a Yellow stripe, (Dare I say go faster stripe) What does it denote if anything?

(http://www.rail37.com/Churnet%20Valley%20Railway/Resources/Gala_prep_day_200208/44422A.jpg)
Title: Re: 44422 Yellow stripe
Post by: d-a-n on June 23, 2013, 07:50:39 AM
Isn't it something to do with working under overhead catenary?
Title: Re: 44422 Yellow stripe
Post by: dodger on June 23, 2013, 07:52:26 AM
The yellow stripe was painted on the cab side of various LMS steam locomotives as a reminder that they were banned from working under live 25kV overhead wires. This was generally due to the clearance for firemen to draw coal forward in the tender.

dodger
Title: Re: 44422 Yellow stripe
Post by: NeMo on June 23, 2013, 09:56:48 AM
While we're on the topic of diagonal stripes, what about the stripes sometimes seen on mineral wagons? You can see this in the picture below, though I admit I've weathered that wagon to within an inch of its life!

My understanding is the grey wagons don't have brakes, the bauxites one have vacuum brakes, but what did the stripe mean?

Cheers, NeMo

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/thumb_5142.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=5142)
Title: Re: 44422 Yellow stripe
Post by: davieb on June 23, 2013, 10:06:07 AM
Hi NeMo  :wave:

The white stripe on the side of the mineral wagon shows the end of the wagon that has an end door
if you look at the wagon you can see that the ends look different the end with the door has the white stripe on the side

Hope this makes sense  :hmmm:

dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 44422 Yellow stripe
Post by: NeMo on June 23, 2013, 10:27:20 AM
It does indeed make sense!

Thank you, NeMo
Title: Re: 44422 Yellow stripe
Post by: EtchedPixels on June 23, 2013, 01:06:36 PM
Generally speaking
  Grey - brakes on wagon but no vacuum brake (so had to be hand pinned on steep banks etc)  (not 'no brakes')
  Brown - train brake (vacuum).

The white bar was important for unloading. Woe betide anyone who dispatched a train to be unloaded with an end door wagon the wrong way around as it would mess up the wagon tipping.

http://www.swanseadocks.co.uk/Docks%20Railways%20Page2.htm (http://www.swanseadocks.co.uk/Docks%20Railways%20Page2.htm)

has some stuff on the handling of the wagons including a picture of the wagon tippers and gravity feed at Swansea Dock.
Title: Re: 44422 Yellow stripe
Post by: edwin_m on June 23, 2013, 03:10:44 PM
Some wagons also had a kind of white V towards the bottom in the middle, to indicate a bottom door. 
Title: Re: 44422 Yellow stripe
Post by: d-a-n on June 23, 2013, 03:13:51 PM
Quote from: NeMo on June 23, 2013, 09:56:48 AMthough I admit I've weathered that wagon to within an inch of its life!

Nice weathering!  ;D