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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Mr Sprue on June 13, 2013, 10:41:53 AM

Title: Class 205 (3H) Request
Post by: Mr Sprue on June 13, 2013, 10:41:53 AM
Do any members here possess 2D drawings or pictures of the 205 class?  I'm particularly interested in the roof and chassis detail especially the underframe and chassis components.

Any information regarding this subject will be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Class 205 (3H) Request
Post by: RussellH on June 13, 2013, 11:08:46 AM
Hi Mr Sprue

try this -

http://www.barrowmoremrg.co.uk/BRBDocuments/Book230Issue.pdf (http://www.barrowmoremrg.co.uk/BRBDocuments/Book230Issue.pdf)

Regards

Russ
Title: Re: Class 205 (3H) Request
Post by: Mr Sprue on June 13, 2013, 11:25:00 AM
Thank you Russell that's a good addition to what I have so far.

Title: Re: Class 205 (3H) Request
Post by: H on June 13, 2013, 01:21:53 PM
Check out PDH (they have drawing of DEMUs);
http://www.pdhdrawings.com/catalogue.php (http://www.pdhdrawings.com/catalogue.php)


(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/454/demuclass2053h.jpg)

H.
Title: Re: Class 205 (3H) Request
Post by: EtchedPixels on June 13, 2013, 02:57:41 PM
There are also drawings in Golding

http://www.amazon.co.uk/books/dp/1900298007 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/books/dp/1900298007)

in fact that's pretty much a "must have" book for DMU building.

The underframes are less well documented, SEMG is probably your best bet but you may have to do what you often end having to do with underframe details - and go photograph one of the surviving ones in detail yourself.

Alan

Title: Re: Class 205 (3H) Request
Post by: red_death on June 13, 2013, 03:04:26 PM
IIRC both Golding and PDH drawings had some fairly serious errors in some of the drawings.

Caveat emptor and all that.  I would definitely look for pictures rather than rely on drawings.

Cheers, Mike
Title: Re: Class 205 (3H) Request
Post by: EtchedPixels on June 13, 2013, 03:12:52 PM
Quote from: red_death on June 13, 2013, 03:04:26 PM
IIRC both Golding and PDH drawings had some fairly serious errors in some of the drawings.

Caveat emptor and all that.  I would definitely look for pictures rather than rely on drawings.

All drawings do - and those that are correct are often only correct for one specific unit/loco on one specific date in its history ! If one exists its almost always worth visiting it before making models.

Alan
Title: Re: Class 205 (3H) Request
Post by: H on June 13, 2013, 03:22:57 PM
Quote from: red_death on June 13, 2013, 03:04:26 PM

IIRC both Golding and PDH drawings had some fairly serious errors in some of the drawings.


I've heard that said about just about every drawing ever published, but then that's because not all stock in a batch was built exactly the same, not all followed the plans, stock changed over the years and for relatively recently drawn plans not all those producing them were dilligent or had access to all the necessary detailed information (which often no longer exists). It is best to check out photos of the actual unit and at the time you want to model.

There are a number of of good books with lots of photographs that will help - including the DEMU one by Martyn Welsh, the recent one by Kevin Robertson and Hugh Abbinnett, and if you can get it issue #9 of the British Rail Fleet Survey series by Brian Haresnape - that also includes some GA drawings/plans.

Finally get down to the preserved lines that still have examples - I think that the Lavender Line, the Watercress Line and the Spa valley line all have examples -  and take your own detailed snaps.

H.
Title: Re: Class 205 (3H) Request
Post by: Mr Sprue on June 13, 2013, 05:10:29 PM
Out of curiosity has anyone inspected the OO Bachmann 205 (2H) up close yet, if so how accurate would it be marked out of 10 for detail?