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Title: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: bigbob on May 22, 2013, 06:22:57 PM
Should be in the shops tomorrow, hopefully mine is getting sent out same day and will be with me Fri for a long weekend of running in :D
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: Phil Hendry on May 22, 2013, 06:24:48 PM
Quote from: bigbob on May 22, 2013, 06:22:57 PM
Should be in the shops tomorrow, hopefully mine is getting sent out same day and will be with me Fri for a long weekend of running in :D
The day before the appearance of the class 70 on Britain's rails provides a suitable 'cut off point' for my 'modern image' modelling. :no: Horrid-looking things! ;)
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: simonprelude on May 22, 2013, 07:15:12 PM
What livery's? Really liking the Colas Rail version.

(http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/1262389872/med_gallery_6899_468_97837.jpg)
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: bigbob on May 22, 2013, 07:20:26 PM
just Freightliner at the mo but fingers crossed more to follow or repaints!
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: bbdave on May 22, 2013, 09:20:28 PM
I like the Freightliner but love the Colas I best start saving


Dave
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: Sprintex on May 22, 2013, 09:23:35 PM
 :sick2:


Paul
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: EtchedPixels on May 22, 2013, 09:45:56 PM
Quote from: bbdave on May 22, 2013, 09:20:28 PM
I like the Freightliner but love the Colas I best start saving

Well if it looks like someone has been sick, you might as well paint it sick colour I guess  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

I think it actually looks pretty good, just as if it belongs in Australia or somewhere not here
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: Newportnobby on May 23, 2013, 07:53:53 AM
A design icon.............................................not :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: Greybeema on May 23, 2013, 08:34:32 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on May 23, 2013, 07:53:53 AM
A design icon.............................................not :thumbsdown:

Didn't people say the same about Bulleid's Spam Can Pacifics?  Look what happened to them...
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: port perran on May 23, 2013, 08:38:24 AM
They say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Afraid, however, that I'm not beholden.
But as Greybeema said look what was originally said about Bulleid's Spam-Cans (and Q1s of course)
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: bluedepot on May 23, 2013, 09:13:40 AM
Is that a spoof or do colas really have a class 70????

colas are my favourite operator now because of class 56s and 47s and nice livery too.

not a class 70 fan but they are a change from 66s and an interesting addition to the modern rail scene!

have 70s been sold to any operators in the rest of the world?


Tim
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: H on May 23, 2013, 09:17:21 AM
Sure, they're not pretty, but they're damn functional and powerful.

I've had one of the new models for several weeks now. They're a very nice model.

(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/7578/dsc5214.JPG)

H.
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: simonprelude on May 23, 2013, 09:21:52 AM
Possibly a spoof.........

(http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/1259656416/gallery_6899_468_198892.jpg)
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: Jack on May 23, 2013, 09:27:30 AM
Nice livery! Wrong loco! I don't know about Class 70, more like Class Marmite!  :sick2
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: OwL on May 23, 2013, 09:34:40 AM
I like the class 70's, i just hope the model turns out good.
Looking forward to all of the reviews here.......

Hopefully a place for one on Old Warren soon. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: H on May 23, 2013, 10:07:39 AM
Quote from: Only Me on May 23, 2013, 10:00:36 AM

the most noticeable thing was that the lights stay at a constant brightness no matter what speed the loco was travelling at,


I'm afraid that wasn't the case with the sample I had. In fact the brightness varied with speed more than other recent new locos.

H.
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: GroupC on May 23, 2013, 10:19:55 AM
Sorry to disappoint the Colas livery fans (which includes me) but 70001-70020 are all still in their original Freightliner livery. A demonstrator, 70099, is dark green all over. Not even any yellow end panels. Dreadful.

When they were delivered I thought they looked awful but to be honest on seeing them in reality they've grown on me. They also get nice and sooty, which would look great modelled.

First one to weather a model into such a filthy state gets a bonus point.
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: kaiwhara on May 23, 2013, 10:58:43 AM
How long before Tank presents us with an NSE class 70 on his layout next to the NSE 221? Eh Team Leader?? Eh? EH???  :claphappy: :laugh:
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: Trev on May 23, 2013, 12:14:44 PM
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/thumb_5157.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=5157)

Just don't drop it otherwise it might look like this  :doh:
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: kaiwhara on May 23, 2013, 12:16:29 PM
The Auzzies can do that too!! EMD GT46C-ACe Locomotive Dropped on Delivery (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvyIrsZ7Zhs#ws)
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: H on May 23, 2013, 12:25:11 PM
Quote from: kaiwhara on May 23, 2013, 12:16:29 PM

The Auzzies can do that too


They also dropped a lot of chances in the last few Ashes series.  :D

H.

Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: Skyline2uk on May 25, 2013, 06:31:09 PM
Haven't posted on the forum in a while (but projects have been progressing)....however, my views on the subject of class 70's are well known!

I am not a fan, but its good there is an n gauge one. Have had a preview at Trainwest this year and the model looks as ugly as the real one, which is a compliment to Farish!

As for an NSE version.....no objections here....go on Tank, you know you want to  >:D

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: Wayne 56089 on May 25, 2013, 07:37:15 PM
Now in stock at rails according to the email I got today and their website.
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: Ollie3440 on May 25, 2013, 08:22:57 PM
Quote from: Wayne 56089 on May 25, 2013, 07:37:15 PM
Now in stock at rails according to the email I got today and their website.

And one of those we had in has made it into my hands :P
(http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii309/olliereading1123/N%20Gauge/SDC15729.jpg) (http://s267.photobucket.com/user/olliereading1123/media/N%20Gauge/SDC15729.jpg.html)

(http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii309/olliereading1123/N%20Gauge/SDC15730.jpg) (http://s267.photobucket.com/user/olliereading1123/media/N%20Gauge/SDC15730.jpg.html)

Ollie

:NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: simonprelude on May 25, 2013, 08:34:04 PM
First pictures I've seen where they don't look too bad.
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: Maurits71 on May 25, 2013, 09:10:13 PM
I deel an addition to my fleet coming up
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: Christina on May 26, 2013, 12:42:11 AM
They'd look absolutely fine without the headlight boxes.

I may end up getting one someday, but I don't have much money to spend lately.
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: steam-driven boy on May 26, 2013, 12:51:06 AM
Hi,
I'm happy enough to await the arrival of my pre-order after the bank holiday, it just means it'll go on next month's card bill  ;) which will be useful...
Good review in the current Model Rail comic mag, and a suitably beast-like appearance methinks  :hmmm:
For a more traditional look, who will be producing the DRS Class 68 I wonder http://railwayherald.com/uknews/class-68-livery-revealed (http://railwayherald.com/uknews/class-68-livery-revealed)  8)

Regards, Gerry.
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: Phil Hendry on May 26, 2013, 09:13:17 AM
Quote from: Christina on May 26, 2013, 12:42:11 AMThey'd look absolutely fine without the headlight boxes.
I think you've hit the nail on the head there - the headlight boxes make them look like a Reliant Supervan. Without those, they'd just look like an updated class 58 or something.
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: roundhouse on May 26, 2013, 06:45:55 PM
Picked up two from Cheltenham models yesterday at RAILEX and after fitting decoders put them straight to work on Banbury.

I have added one weight to one of q as it was struggling at times pulling 11 feet of containers. A bit better now but I am sure I can find a fe more gaps to fill with lead.

Ian
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: Skyline2uk on May 26, 2013, 07:56:37 PM
QuoteI think you've hit the nail on the head there - the headlight boxes make them look like a Reliant Supervan. Without those, they'd just look like an updated class 58 or something.

Agreed, those boxes make it look, well, warty?!

For me the mid-body looks very much like USA locomotives (especially the overhanging vents), but I think the narrow body is definitely 58 like. Still, the 58 is one of my favs, and I won't be painting it green!

Skyline2uk 
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: voltan on May 26, 2013, 09:24:06 PM
Mein eyes! Zer goggles, zey do nothing!

Do not like their looks, only seen one going past and that was two to many.
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: Skyline2uk on May 26, 2013, 10:04:32 PM
 :laughabovepost:

Ah...The Simpsons Episode 2F17 "Radioactive Man" If I am not mistaken.....

(don't worry, I had to Google the Episode number  ;) )

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: red_death on May 26, 2013, 10:27:15 PM
Having seen a fair few in action on the coal circuits round Warrington I've grown to really like them.  They are streets ahead of class 66s in terms of technology and performance.  Not as nice as a Class 60 though  ;)

Cheers, Mike
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: kiwi1941 on May 26, 2013, 11:28:31 PM
Has anyone a comment on how they run out of the box, reliability, quality control etc? TIA, Brian
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: roundhouse on May 27, 2013, 05:56:34 AM
We had two of them running all weekend at RAILEX and they seem very smooth. The lighting switch is great for switching off the rear lights when pulling a train.

Just an issue with weight as I mentioned above if you are running long trains.

Ian
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: H on May 27, 2013, 07:50:51 AM
Quote from: roundhouse on May 27, 2013, 05:56:34 AM

The lighting switch is great for switching off the rear lights when pulling a train.


The switch is a nice touch and something that's been requested by enthusiasts. The snag is that the switch is located under the loco so you have to pick it up off the track to operate it. Makes running the loco light engine up to a train load, coupling up and moving off in the opposite direction a tad awkward.  :(

H.
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: edwin_m on May 27, 2013, 09:25:39 AM
How else could it be done without DCC? 

Incidentally, anyone any comments on how easy it is to convert to proper independent lighting with a decoder? 
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: H on May 27, 2013, 10:00:40 AM
Quote from: edwin_m on May 27, 2013, 09:25:39 AM

How else could it be done without DCC? 


It's not the method that's in question - it's the location.

H.
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: EtchedPixels on May 27, 2013, 10:04:14 AM
Quote from: H on May 27, 2013, 10:00:40 AM

It's not the method that's in question - it's the location.

H.

Where would you put it given it needs to be invisible?
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: H on May 27, 2013, 10:08:17 AM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on May 27, 2013, 10:04:14 AM

Where would you put it given it needs to be invisible?


Not if it's disguised as say the roof mounted radio pod and is a push and return to position switch.

H.
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: edwin_m on May 27, 2013, 12:36:57 PM
Much as I dislike tail lights lit when hauling trains, I think I would prefer them to the Hand of God descending every time they need turning off or on!
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: Ben A on May 27, 2013, 09:45:08 PM
Quote from: H on May 27, 2013, 10:08:17 AM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on May 27, 2013, 10:04:14 AM

Where would you put it given it needs to be invisible?


Not if it's disguised as say the roof mounted radio pod and is a push and return to position switch.

H.

If it was on one of the cab roof pods, then the act of pushing it may well cause the other end of the loco to lift and derail.  TBH in N pretty much any "switch" is going to be either visually intrusive, or inaccessible, or hard to operate with 1:1 sized fingers.  I suspect that if you want to be able to run up to a train with red lights showing, then reverse off with them deactivated, some form of computer control is the only practical approach.

cheers

Ben A.
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: PaulCheffus on May 27, 2013, 10:30:30 PM
Quote from: Ben A on May 27, 2013, 09:45:08 PM
I suspect that if you want to be able to run up to a train with red lights showing, then reverse off with them deactivated, some form of computer control is the only practical approach.

cheers

Ben A.

Hi

Or of course DCC unless that's what you meant.

Cheers

Paul
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: Agrafarfan on May 28, 2013, 03:23:33 PM
I think the designer had a bad day. But the Farish model looks brilliantly modelled, well detailed. I reckon it will win model of the year 2013. :NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: Luke Piewalker on May 28, 2013, 05:35:18 PM
Could you not do the lights with a cunning reed switch? Waft a magnet over the appropriate location to set it. If you could find a suitable location to put the switch and wiring.
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: Roy L S on May 28, 2013, 06:28:35 PM
Quote from: Agrafarfan on May 28, 2013, 03:23:33 PM
I think the designer had a bad day. But the Farish model looks brilliantly modelled, well detailed. I reckon it will win model of the year 2013. :NGaugersRule:

I take it you mean N Gauge Diesel category?

We have yet to see the new Ivatt 2MT 2-6-0 released, but from what I have seen of the model so far, if running is on a par with the WD Austerilty it is likely to give any release regardless of manufacturer a run for it's money!

Roy
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: steam-driven boy on May 30, 2013, 11:40:04 AM
Hi,
Quote from: steam-driven boy on May 26, 2013, 12:51:06 AM
I'm happy enough to await the arrival of my pre-order after the bank holiday, it just means it'll go on next month's card bill  ;) which will be useful...
Good review in the current Model Rail comic mag, and a suitably beast-like appearance methinks  :hmmm:
For a more traditional look, who will be producing the DRS Class 68 I wonder http://railwayherald.com/uknews/class-68-livery-revealed (http://railwayherald.com/uknews/class-68-livery-revealed)  8)
Arrived this morning, looking great and now running in on the rolling road  8)

Regards, Gerry.
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: NTrain on May 30, 2013, 08:00:46 PM
  :sorrysign:I do wish this thread would go hide itself. :D  :(

I want one of these and all my funds are tied up in development.   :( 

Maybe I will be able to afford one at TINGS  :D
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: davecttr on May 31, 2013, 12:25:49 PM
Just got mine today. I see it is 20g lighter than the Farish class 66 which may account for the haulage problems.

I want mine to haul 18 bogie coal hoppers, both empty and full so advice please on adding extra weight.
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: Adam1701D on May 31, 2013, 01:58:47 PM
QuoteI want one of these and all my funds are tied up in development

Please buy lots of 313s!  :)
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: stevieboy on June 01, 2013, 11:54:51 AM
Having seen one in the flesh today at Rails I'm definitely getting one. They're fantastic looking things. Even my other half, who nearly spat her cereal out when I showed her a picture one morning, thinks they're nice (in a quirky way).
Title: Re: Class 70`s on their way :)
Post by: kaiwhara on June 07, 2013, 07:12:50 AM
Quote from: captainelectra on May 31, 2013, 01:58:47 PM
QuoteI want one of these and all my funds are tied up in development

Please buy lots of 313s!  :)

I plan too!  :thumbsup: