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Title: Wheelie bins
Post by: painbrook on April 17, 2013, 04:10:17 PM
Fratton, it looks like you have the same problem as me, namely bins lying around your front door. Or was it bin day?.
Title: Re: Wheelie bins
Post by: thebrighton on April 17, 2013, 06:23:01 PM
Quote from: painbrook on April 17, 2013, 04:10:17 PM
Fratton, it looks like you have the same problem as me, namely bins lying around your front door. Or was it bin day?.

Same here. Out front we currently have 2 large wheelie bins, a large blue box and a large white bag. A couple of weeks ago we got a letter from the council detailing revised recycling requirements and announcing we are to get a 3rd large wheelie bin! I'm going to have to start parking the car on the road as there is no room left on the drive. It seems to be staying as normal refuse every other week with recycling in between.
Gareth
Title: Re: Wheelie bins
Post by: painbrook on April 18, 2013, 04:10:19 PM
Quote from: thebrighton on April 17, 2013, 06:23:01 PM
Quote from: painbrook on April 17, 2013, 04:10:17 PM
Fratton, it looks like you have the same problem as me, namely bins lying around your front door. Or was it bin day?.

Same here. Out front we currently have 2 large wheelie bins, a large blue box and a large white bag. A couple of weeks ago we got a letter from the council detailing revised recycling requirements and announcing we are to get a 3rd large wheelie bin! I'm going to have to start parking the car on the road as there is no room left on the drive. It seems to be staying as normal refuse every other week with recycling in between.
Gareth.
Wait till you get your grey, brown and red ones. To make it worse, with the strong winds up here in Fife a lot of the bins have shed their loads >:(. John.
Title: Re: Wheelie bins
Post by: EddieA on April 21, 2013, 05:11:38 PM
Don't get me started on 'bins'! OK you just have... :bounce:

I don;t do recycliing... why?

I now have bins for garden (which I use) general (ditto), kitchen waste, which I stopped using several months ago as the bin was not emptied. Why? Because I placed on my garden wall (2 feet high) to avoid blocking the pavement... evidently the pick up operatives thought this was a H&S issue :(

??? so my food waste goes into my 'general bin' and to landfill.

But on 'other' items I make the effort to take those  items to recycling that I can
Title: Re: Wheelie bins
Post by: EtchedPixels on April 21, 2013, 10:42:58 PM
I had a marvellous conversation with a man from the council who explained we'd put our bins out too early and they were a hazard. I asked him in that case why binbags were black and had the council done a risk assessment  :bounce:

Alan
Title: Re: Wheelie bins
Post by: Adam1701D on April 22, 2013, 07:49:27 AM
We're up to four bins in Peterborough...

1) Black for general waste
2) Green for recycling
3) Brown for Garden Waste
4) A small grey caddy, collected, weekly for food waste.

Got to admit that, despite my scepticism, it works pretty well for me, living in a bungalow in a more agreeable part of town.

It's not such a great system where there are lots of Victorian terraces, no front gardens and really narrow pavements.
Title: Re: Wheelie bins
Post by: H on April 22, 2013, 10:16:06 AM
Obviously people are throwing away too much these days.  :D

There was a time when just one small silvery metal round profile dustbin was sufficient for all of a household's weekly waste. Now it seems we need at least three huge plastic bins, several bags and a food container. I'm amazed that it seems that some families now can't even manage to get all their recylable waste in to one massive wheelie-bin and leave the lid up with rubbish overflowing the path.

H.
Title: Re: Wheelie bins
Post by: MikeDunn on April 22, 2013, 10:20:15 AM
When the council don't come for a fortnight, you have a fortnights waste - not just one week like in the old days of aforementioned "one small silvery metal round profile dustbin".

Also - how many bother to squash etc packaging, or just chuck it in the bin as-is and taking up lots of cc ?
Title: Re: Wheelie bins
Post by: Caz on April 22, 2013, 11:33:38 AM
That's one good thing about living in Spain, we get a collection every day, yes every day including Christmas day.  Admittadly we have communial bins but it is only 100 yards to walk at the most with your rubbish.  There are separate bins for general rubbish, bottles, tins and plastic cartons, paper and cardboard, old oil, old batteries. 

And what do I pay for this service, 90.00 euros a year!  and if you're a resident and on the electoral role you get 55% discount off of that, as you also do with your council tax.  :)
Title: Re: Wheelie bins
Post by: Oldman on April 22, 2013, 11:39:50 AM
3 bins here plus that stupid shopping basket sized food waste bin.

Garden waste bin hardly ever used, just when we prune the pyrocanthia (sp?)
Recycling Bin usually 2/3 full every fortnight - yes we flat pack old boxes.
Ordinary bin  one or maybe 2 binbags a fortnight.
Food waste thingy - we don't waste food. Think at the moment it has decorating brushes and roller in it. ???
Title: Re: Wheelie bins
Post by: Pengi on April 22, 2013, 11:48:58 AM
Three bins (at the moment)

Brown bin for garden waste
Black bin for recycling
Green bin for normal household.
Black plastic crate for glass

The council was a wheelie bin pioneer and the first bins were green and have stayed that way, even though they are not for 'green'

Just gone over to brown bins, previously had green bags (for garden)
Title: Re: Wheelie bins
Post by: Kipper on April 22, 2013, 11:55:48 AM
Thankfully, we only have a black bin for general rubbish, a green topped bin for paper, plastic bottles and tin cans, and a blue box for glass. Surprisingly, it is always the blue boxes that are fullest!!!! We can also pay for a brown topped garden waste bin.
Unfortunately, there has been a lot of publicity, locally, that the paper/plastic/can bin loads are not sorted by the collectors, but exported intact. The recipients (China) do not sort either, but put direct into landfill, so not very green at all.
Title: Re: Wheelie bins
Post by: EtchedPixels on April 22, 2013, 11:59:34 AM
We get bags but its mostly terraced and with steps down so wheelie bins wouldn't work too well. Only thing not a bag is the food bin.

Plastic and rubbish one week, glass, metal, paper, card, boxes etc the other, food bin every week. Can't remember when the garden stuff goes as its months since I put any garden waste out.

Plastic recycling made the big difference - our black bin contents more than halved.

Other handy thing is the council then make the resulting compost available, and also run a "junk" stall where you can buy all sorts of things that were deemed worth trying to recycle as is really cheap.

Alan
Title: Re: Wheelie bins
Post by: H on April 22, 2013, 12:02:41 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on April 22, 2013, 10:20:15 AM

When the council don't come for a fortnight, 


Not so around here, and I suspect most other places. They still come once a week but don't empty all the four, five or six bins, although they still always emply at least two or three, which are massively larger than the one old dustbin.

H.
Title: Re: Wheelie bins
Post by: EtchedPixels on April 22, 2013, 12:04:19 PM
Quote from: Kipper on April 22, 2013, 11:55:48 AM
Unfortunately, there has been a lot of publicity, locally, that the paper/plastic/can bin loads are not sorted by the collectors, but exported intact. The recipients (China) do not sort either, but put direct into landfill, so not very green at all.

Sounds dubious to me -  the Chinese are not known for wasting any opportunity to recycle metal and their rules on waste especially incoming waste are pretty tight.

Alan
Title: Re: Wheelie bins
Post by: Kipper on April 22, 2013, 12:10:36 PM
The story was that China is landfilling a lot, as they are expanding and need level building land. Considering what we are allowed to put in the recycling bin (virtually everything originally made from paper, plastic or metal), compared to the next door council, who are very restrictive, I imagine there is a fair amount of junk in there. We still get the odd bin not collected, due to polystyrene in them or nappies (!), but mostly all collected.
Title: Re: Wheelie bins
Post by: EtchedPixels on April 22, 2013, 12:13:20 PM
chuckle.. you use local material and not landfill squishy stuff that then builds up gas and shrinks and breaks down as it degrades. Ask a builder about buying new build houses on old waste tips  :D
Title: Re: Wheelie bins
Post by: Kipper on April 22, 2013, 08:12:48 PM
Tell that to the firm that built my last house on an old airdrome. Failed to ground test all over, and missed an underground blockhouse. Built some of the houses part over the blockhouse and part over the ground. Net result was settlement on the ground side and total subsidence of four houses. All had to be demolished, with full cash compo, and we all moved elsewhere. The airdrome was built on a pre-war tip.
Title: Re: Wheelie bins
Post by: painbrook on April 23, 2013, 07:05:10 PM
Not a new thing then, the war office not getting planning permission :smiley-laughing:. Cheers john.
Title: Re: Wheelie bins
Post by: EtchedPixels on April 24, 2013, 12:13:42 PM
Quote from: painbrook on April 23, 2013, 07:05:10 PM
Not a new thing then, the war office not getting planning permission :smiley-laughing:. Cheers john.

Well can you imagine how long it would take to do the paperwork and apply for all that foreign demolition work they did  :help:
Title: Re: Wheelie bins
Post by: Belated on April 24, 2013, 08:11:58 PM
Know what you mean about bins. :laugh:

We have a black (general waste) and a brown (garden waste) wheelie bin, emptied alternate weeks.  Then every week we have boxes for 1)plastic + metal 2)glass 3)paper + card and the 4)waste food, which is half the size of the other boxes.  Since plastic includes all plastic packaging, that gets filled to overflowing because of all the food packaging.  Paper and card is often full as well - usually junk mail!

So far (15 months) the only time they weren't collected was when we had heavy snow and I guess the bin men were out clearing snow/gritting/etc.  However, I have been warned (by family) that if I put out something they don't like, they will just leave it and not collect that item again until I ring the council - to apologise I suppose.

Biggest headache for me is that the roadside where we are to leave the bins is over 100 feet down a drive from the house.  When you have mobility problems, that's a fair old distance, lol.  So we use Kath's mobility scoter to tow a garden truck carrying the boxes and bins down the drive.

John
Title: Re: Wheelie bins
Post by: OwL on April 25, 2013, 01:41:54 AM
Quote from: H on April 22, 2013, 10:16:06 AM
Obviously people are throwing away too much these days.  :D

There was a time when just one small silvery metal round profile dustbin was sufficient for all of a household's weekly waste. Now it seems we need at least three huge plastic bins, several bags and a food container. I'm amazed that it seems that some families now can't even manage to get all their recylable waste in to one massive wheelie-bin and leave the lid up with rubbish overflowing the path.

H.

Welcome to Mordor >:D you Shire dwelling Hobbits of middle earth have much to learn about waste disposal on mount doom :veryangry: :hmmm: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Wheelie bins
Post by: painbrook on May 03, 2013, 05:25:54 PM
Couple of questions for the boffins, super market plastic black trays that contain fresh meat often show no 'recycle mark', can they be recycled, and if not why not?. Secondly, we now use the same bin for plastic and metal, so how do they process that bin?. Sadly I'm beging to think of other questions :worried: :(.Cheers john.
Title: Re: Wheelie bins
Post by: Newportnobby on May 03, 2013, 09:36:37 PM
Sadly there are still many plastic trays for foodstuffs that are not made of recycleable materials. These seem particularly prevalent in the 'ready meal' category :thumbsdown:
I'm no boffin when it comes to recycling, but we have to put plastics, metals and glass in the same blue wheelie bin. I can only imagine they use magnets and centrifuges to sort the materials out ???
Title: Re: Wheelie bins
Post by: painbrook on May 04, 2013, 12:48:20 PM
. I can only imagine they use magnets and centrifuges to sort the materials out . Thats why I'm wondering, magnets are of no use for the majority of cans/tins there not magnetic, or is there something I don't know? :worried:.Cheers john.
Title: Re: Wheelie bins
Post by: Sprintex on May 04, 2013, 01:01:21 PM
Google is your friend ;)

What Happens to Mixed Recycling (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IgOMpM2-os#ws)

Having posted that it must be cheaper and easier if it is sorted by the original user (ie, you and me ;) ), otherwise why would we have so many different bins/boxes to separate stuff, with each material going into a different receptacle on the truck? When they collect recyclables round here the brown wheelie bin (cardboard/garden waste) gets emptied into the main storage, the small box for cans/glass goes into one side bin of the truck, and the box fornewspapers, etc goes into the other side bin :thumbsup:


Paul
Title: Re: Wheelie bins
Post by: EtchedPixels on May 04, 2013, 02:55:49 PM
Is it just me or does mixed recycling look an awful lot like school dinner
Title: Re: Wheelie bins
Post by: Newportnobby on May 04, 2013, 08:22:48 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on May 04, 2013, 02:55:49 PM
Is it just me or does mixed recycling look an awful lot like school dinner

Yup - it's self perpetuating recycling :sick: :poop: