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Title: Metro Tanks
Post by: Caz on April 20, 2013, 05:19:02 PM
Whilst in the UK recently I purchased a copy of Stanley Jenkins "The Fairford Branch - The Witney & East Gloucestershire Railway" which is an absolute mine of information on this Oxfordshire Branch Line (see my http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=6590.msg75103#msg75103 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=6590.msg75103#msg75103) thread for more info).

I've been slowly getting the stock together that used to run on this branch and one loco I haven't yet got is a Metro Tank.  It appears that this was the last place in the UK that ran these little locos ran as did the Class 22 diesels before they were finally scrapped.

Does anyone know of a kit or something that I could put together to create one of the locos, one of the actual locos to run on the branch was 3585 so I wouldn't mind having a bash at that one if I can get a kit or something together.  All ideas gratefully received, it will be my first kit built loco so I hope I haven't bitten off more than I can handle.

Another little gem of info extracted from the book is that this humble branch line was the first to have AWS fitted as a
GWR experiment in 1906 and to this end, all the distant signals were permanently removed on the whole branch.
:thankyousign:
Title: Re: Metro Tanks
Post by: upnick on April 20, 2013, 09:30:43 PM
Hi  Caz,   

I am no   expert on the metro  locos  or indeed  know what they are but  these two  kits from  Langley could be what your looking for ?   

http://www.langleymodels.co.uk/shop/ss000001.pl?page=search&PR=-1&TB=A&SS=metro+&ACTION=quick+search (http://www.langleymodels.co.uk/shop/ss000001.pl?page=search&PR=-1&TB=A&SS=metro+&ACTION=quick+search)



Title: Re: Metro Tanks
Post by: Caz on April 21, 2013, 10:02:25 AM
Thanks, I've had a look through the Langley range and can't see anything suitable.  The GWR Metro tank was a 2-4-0 loco and I'm thinking It'll have to be a scratch built job if I go ahead. 

Thinking of cannibalising either a Farish or Dapol 0-6-0 chassis (57xx or Terrier?) by removing one set of drivers, shortening the connecting rods and replacing the driver with another set of smaller wheels.  Not sure what I could use as a donor body though.  Don't know whether this would work, any of you scratch builders have any suggestions?

Here's a piccy of the loco in question http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GW_3588_Swindon_1950.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GW_3588_Swindon_1950.jpg)
Title: Re: Metro Tanks
Post by: Newportnobby on April 21, 2013, 10:23:48 AM
Just a thought, Caz.
Could the Dapol 14xx chassis be made to fit? :hmmm:
Title: Re: Metro Tanks
Post by: Caz on April 21, 2013, 10:44:47 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 21, 2013, 10:23:48 AM
Just a thought, Caz.
Could the Dapol 14xx chassis be made to fit? :hmmm:

Nice idean, thanks but I did think about that Mick but it's round the wrong way, it's an 0-4-2 (I need a 2-4-0) and reversing it, it would be too big to fit in the boiler part of the loco body.
Title: Re: Metro Tanks
Post by: Newportnobby on April 21, 2013, 10:53:12 AM
Quote from: whiteswan on April 21, 2013, 10:44:47 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 21, 2013, 10:23:48 AM
Just a thought, Caz.
Could the Dapol 14xx chassis be made to fit? :hmmm:

Nice idean, thanks but I did think about that Mick but it's round the wrong way, it's an 0-4-2 (I need a 2-4-0) and reversing it, it would be too big to fit in the boiler part of the loco body.

Yeah - I was thinking of it being reversed but didn't know if it would squeeze into the boiler. In the words of Monty Python "This is where my claim falls to the ground. I was only hoping you would not point that out, but I can see you're more than a match for me" :-[
Title: Re: Metro Tanks
Post by: 1whitemoor on April 21, 2013, 11:09:20 AM
Deleted my post as it was in the wrong thread, apologies
:doh:
Paul A.
Title: Re: Metro Tanks
Post by: EtchedPixels on April 21, 2013, 11:23:14 AM
Dapol M7 maybe ?

You want 5ft wheels so terrier isn't too hopeful. 57xx might work if tiny enugh inside and low enough. With the LNER F5 I did height was the real big problem.

Alan
Title: Re: Metro Tanks
Post by: zwilnik on April 21, 2013, 11:36:44 AM
 The rear end might overhang a bit much but I'm wondering if Farish's general tank engine (the one in southern and LMS liveries that was in the basic sets).

Upside for hacking about is it's cheap and usually has a plastic body so would be easy to work with. You could hack away some of the front end running boards to suit. I you just want to do a stationary one for practice the Shredded Wheat one is the same shape but with a plastic chassis (and no motor) so it's even easier to modify :)

Downside is the rear overhang I previously mentioned.
Title: Re: Metro Tanks
Post by: 1whitemoor on April 21, 2013, 11:37:49 AM
Beaver products may have once done 5' wheels, they certainly did 5'6'' ones

Paul A.
Title: Re: Metro Tanks
Post by: Richard @ N'Tastic Scale Models on April 21, 2013, 02:38:54 PM
Have a look at Bachmann USA N Scale loco's available over here, but generally a lot cheaper the Plymouth shunter is about £20 whilst the Farish shunters are over £50. Not sure what is in the range but these chassis are used for OO9 and very reliable.
Title: Re: Metro Tanks
Post by: 1whitemoor on April 21, 2013, 02:43:55 PM
http://www.newhallstation.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=585 (http://www.newhallstation.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=585)

this is probably a bit long, unfortunately.

Paul A.
Title: Re: Metro Tanks
Post by: Caz on April 21, 2013, 02:47:10 PM
Quote from: 1whitemoor on April 21, 2013, 02:43:55 PM
http://www.newhallstation.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=585 (http://www.newhallstation.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=585)

this is probably a bit long, unfortunately.

Paul A.

Shame, right configuration but as you say a bit long, especially the back end where the motor is so can't do much about that.
Title: Re: Metro Tanks
Post by: EtchedPixels on April 21, 2013, 10:00:16 PM
And really 1:120 scale if I remember rightly plus not been available for years.

Small tank locos are hard - wheels are easy enough to get but using an existing chassis is generally hard as they are almost universally too big - and the US and mainland european ones are also way way too fat.

Alan
Title: Re: Metro Tanks
Post by: zwilnik on April 22, 2013, 01:09:08 AM
as usual, the GWR modelling site has a lot of handy info on the various 4 coupled tanks (the last variant of the 'large' Metro is near the bottom.

http://www.gwr.org.uk/no4-coup-tanks.html (http://www.gwr.org.uk/no4-coup-tanks.html)
Title: Re: Metro Tanks
Post by: Karhedron on April 25, 2013, 09:45:05 PM
Dean Sidings announed they were planning to produce a kit for the metro tank body (to fit on a modified Dapol 14xx chassis I believe). I can't find out if it has been released yet or not.