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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: red_death on April 15, 2013, 02:53:39 PM

Poll
Question: For wagon kits like hoppers and boxes do you prefer?
Option 1: Injection or resin moulded complete box/hopper (no assembly) votes: 3
Option 2: Injection or resin moulded separate sides/ends ie requires assembly votes: 8
Option 3: Etched components (require assembly but much thinner (ie more accurate) for metal bodied wagons) votes: 7
Option 4: I won't make kits votes: 1
Option 5: No preference - any of the above votes: 9
Title: Kits - plastic vs resin vs etch
Post by: red_death on April 15, 2013, 02:53:39 PM
Apologies for the quick straw poll, but I'd be interested in people's opinions on the following options for metal bodied wagons:

1. Injection or resin moulded complete box/hopper (no assembly)
2. Injection or resin moulded separate sides/ends ie requires assembly
3. Etched components (require assembly but much thinner (ie more accurate) for metal bodied wagons)
4. You prefer not to make kits

From an accuracy/realism stand point option 3 is perhaps the best, but it obviously makes assembly a bit more difficult than 1 or 2.

Thanks, Mike
Title: Re: Kits - plastic vs resin vs etch
Post by: MikeDunn on April 15, 2013, 03:46:30 PM
Needs an 'Any of the above' IMHO ...
Title: Re: Kits - plastic vs resin vs etch
Post by: Greybeema on April 15, 2013, 03:55:02 PM
How do ou indicate a mix?

Resin sides but with detail etches?  Similar to model aeroplane deailing kits..
Title: Re: Kits - plastic vs resin vs etch
Post by: red_death on April 15, 2013, 04:03:30 PM
Hi Guys

I'm not really thinking of detail on the sides but a combination of how it looks (ie plastic/resin is thicker generally than an etch) and how easy it is to build.

Etches over plastic/resin superstructure would be option 1 or 2 (depending on your preference).

I've added in no preference/any of the above.

Thanks

Mike
Title: Re: Kits - plastic vs resin vs etch
Post by: AndyGif on April 15, 2013, 04:11:41 PM
no fair adding another category after a small number have already voted.
i would have chosen any, if it had been there.

50% 2,  35% 1,  15% 3

Title: Re: Kits - plastic vs resin vs etch
Post by: Karhedron on April 15, 2013, 04:59:23 PM
My guess is that anyone confident to build brass kits would also be happy to build easier kits if they were available and were of a prototype they wanted to model.
Title: Re: Kits - plastic vs resin vs etch
Post by: MikeDunn on April 15, 2013, 05:20:42 PM
LOL, a year back I would never have touched a brass kit ... now ?  Why not :)  Although I'm still leery of loco kits !
Title: Re: Kits - plastic vs resin vs etch
Post by: EtchedPixels on April 15, 2013, 05:21:15 PM
Its a bit of an odd poll.  Often the best material is entirely dependent upon the protoytype. How and what the material is used for is also critical as is design.

I'd rather build a well designed etched kit than a badly designed plastic one, but equally I'd rather build a plastic kit for anything with lots of curves (etched tanker.. no thanks!). Equally an open wagon body is basically four folds and some gluing in etched form so trivial to build and looks way better.

In fact for a lot of kits I'd rather it was using a mixture of appropriate materials and techniques.

Title: Re: Kits - plastic vs resin vs etch
Post by: red_death on April 15, 2013, 05:27:41 PM
Hi Alan

As the poll mentions I was asking for particularly open and hopper type wagons where the wall thickness and appearance are very obvious.

I completely agree with you that the best approach is to mix and match where appropriate.

Thanks, Mike
Title: Re: Kits - plastic vs resin vs etch
Post by: Oldman on April 15, 2013, 05:40:42 PM
In my case voted any as if the kit is available in N so long as it is one I want I am not bothered what format- even 3D printed.
Title: Re: Kits - plastic vs resin vs etch
Post by: andy61 on April 15, 2013, 07:01:47 PM
It would  be nice to be able to build kits manufactured in any  of the above but I cannot mainly due to a tremors in my hands so stuck with r.t.r.
Title: Re: Kits - plastic vs resin vs etch
Post by: H on April 15, 2013, 07:31:36 PM
I'd prefer injection moulded plastic (I've seen some very fine moulded flat/thin parts in modern plastic kits recently such as splinter shields) rather than resin (no choice between the two?) and it's rather dependant on the prototype with regards to plastic or etched metal. For example soldering a thin lip on a top edge is no fun, and even though some can be designed as a fold, still some kits have them separate.

H.
Title: Re: Kits - plastic vs resin vs etch
Post by: Oldman on April 15, 2013, 07:35:12 PM
I will add one further comment to my previous post.
On Box vans etc, I do like the option of a ready formed roof - only cos I'm  :poop: at curving them.