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General Category => N Gauge Discussion => Topic started by: bluedepot on June 23, 2011, 07:35:02 PM

Title: wagon loads
Post by: bluedepot on June 23, 2011, 07:35:02 PM
ok..... what wagon loads would you have in modern open wagons?

i.e. oba, oaa, oca????

also what about tube and pipe wagons being used for departmental use? just rubble and old sleepers????

next question is, how do i make such loads out of everyday available items????


cheers



tim
Title: Re: wagon loads
Post by: elmo on June 23, 2011, 08:52:22 PM
For departmental pipe wagons I have used ballast and real dirt both glued into position as you would track ballast. I have also used spare parts from signal (and other) kits. They can be painted pristine for 'going to the job' or rust/dirty for being taken away. One of my wagons has an old signal head partly buried in old ballast/mud. Dont forget you can also chuck a bit of cut down greenery into these wagons.

As a tip, I cut, scribe planking (if required) and paint a false wagon base (use thin plastic) then blutac strips of oiled plastic to make false wagon sides againt the base and create the wagon load on this. When all is dry carefully remove the false sides then you have a wagon load that easilly drops in and out of wagons so you can run the same wagon empty.

Elmo
Title: Re: wagon loads
Post by: bluedepot on June 23, 2011, 09:26:20 PM
thanks elmo nice idea for the departmental wagons :)

i also need to put ballast in some dogfish hoppers, will presumably need some foam for this and then ballast on the top of it....

cheers


tim
Title: Re: wagon loads
Post by: elmo on June 23, 2011, 10:03:12 PM
With my dogfish I have used peco wagon loads filed to shape. I do not have them to hand but I believe that it is just the ends that need filing down to fit. The peco loads look better if weathered. I use very very dilute enamel paint (mainly thinner with just a brush tip of paint).
Elmo
Title: Re: wagon loads
Post by: EtchedPixels on June 23, 2011, 11:53:17 PM
Quote from: bluedepot on June 23, 2011, 09:26:20 PM
thanks elmo nice idea for the departmental wagons :)

i also need to put ballast in some dogfish hoppers, will presumably need some foam for this and then ballast on the top of it....

cheers


tim

I used Ten Commandments ballast loads painted with faller 'granite' paint, which really does paint this speckled colour thats like ballast .

(http://www.etchedpixels.co.uk/Gallery/NGF/1.jpg)
Title: Re: wagon loads
Post by: MJKERR on June 24, 2011, 12:45:33 AM
Just as an aside
If you are looking for prepared loads
HAA, HBA, HEA and HFA : [Chivers Fine Lines normally]
Dapol Dogfish : Jacksons Models / Saxondale Loads 2M06
HTA and HHA : Jacksons Models / Saxondale Loads 2M09

I have fitted several Cast In Stone (Ten Commandments) to HTA and HHA wagons
However they are narrower and heavier than those from Saxondale
The disadvantage with the Saxondale ones is they need trimming down in order to fit within a HTA or HHA, but better that than the gaps with the Cast In Stone version
Title: Re: wagon loads
Post by: OwL on June 25, 2011, 02:33:39 PM
I have used match sticks before to good effect to simulate large timber loads.
Title: Re: wagon loads
Post by: Chris on July 01, 2011, 10:26:57 AM
Based on photos of the prototypes I've done a few OBA & OCA wagon loads:-

Sleepers - taken off spare pieces of flexitrack, cut out and fixed individually before being painted stone grey and weathered.

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4106/5104146341_6f4273738c_b_d.jpg)

Offcuts of rail would also be suitable.

I've also done one of my OCAs with an underground cable pipe rack as used for laying cables, and a tarpaulin load which actually covers the rear flashing lamp unit, but could represent all manner of engineering related items, such as tools.

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5162/5378051935_66b5f4f267_o_d.jpg)
Title: Re: wagon loads
Post by: Tank on July 01, 2011, 11:07:00 AM
They look superb Chris.  Did you weather the wagon yourself?
Title: Re: wagon loads
Post by: MJKERR on July 01, 2011, 12:54:10 PM
Quote from: Chris on July 01, 2011, 10:26:57 AMSleepers - taken off spare pieces of flexitrack, cut out and fixed individually before being painted stone grey and weathered
That is a good technique as the sleepers will be stacked
There would be small pieces of wood between them (if they are new concrete) but in N gauge these would be almost invisible
Now the bad news, I need such wagons!
Title: Re: wagon loads
Post by: Chris on July 01, 2011, 04:51:06 PM
Yes I weather all my wagons - a wagon just doesn't look right straight from the box in my view! ;)