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Title: Head buried in the sand
Post by: Geoff on February 24, 2013, 08:49:02 PM
Sorry I have not posted here for a long time but I have been down in the dumps for about 6 months now, and the reason being is my shed has leaked through the roof, water was everywhere and I am afraid I needed to pull up all my track and scenery I have never known a such a bad year for rain, the roof of the shed was leaking in about 6 places just glad I keep the controller and rolling stock in the house, I am planning to make my model modular because I do not want to go through that again, I have been cleaning my track and points and tried to recover as much as I could, I put the hobby down for quite a while now and just got my head back together, even the house roof was leaking so I had the roofer round to do 2 jobs, ah well back to the planning just hope we have a better year.
Title: Re: Head buried in the sand
Post by: Sprintex on February 24, 2013, 08:55:55 PM
Oh dear, sorry to hear about that, what a disaster!  :(

Glad to hear you haven't completely given up though  :thumbsup:


Paul
Title: Re: Head buried in the sand
Post by: Lawrence on February 24, 2013, 09:16:49 PM
A fresh start and a new way of modelling Geoff, maybe all is not lost.  Good to have you back though, look forward to seeing the new work
Title: Re: Head buried in the sand
Post by: OwL on February 24, 2013, 09:23:55 PM
Sorry to hear that. I hope that the damage isnt too severe and that you are able to get modelling again soon.
All the best :thumbsup:
Dave
Title: Re: Head buried in the sand
Post by: Bigric on February 24, 2013, 09:25:24 PM
Yeah , happened to me as well , in the late autumn ! Just managed to get the shed roof re-covered in time by my tame roofing man before any real damage was done . Spookily , I live near you as well , at Appleton Thorn....maybe it's a Warrington Thing ?? Or a Shed Thing ???? Ric
Title: Re: Head buried in the sand
Post by: 1936ace on February 24, 2013, 09:35:25 PM
soryy to hear the bad news, like others have said, a good reason for a new/clean start and maybe some new ideas.
i read here about a lot of leaking roofs. is it because you guys have slate or something similar. i was building a new home when sydney had the masssive hail storm in 1999. made the choice very easy to go with colourbond roof no hail damage
best of luck. maybe a good chance to have the mates come around for a beer i mean working bee
bart
Title: Re: Head buried in the sand
Post by: matt94 on February 24, 2013, 09:44:26 PM
I can certainly sympathise with you there. The roof completely caved in on my shed 2 years ago and ruined my entire layout in there. I spent a year not even bothering with it after that. But i have to say i've now got a much better layout in there than i did before. And with a much better roof on too  :thumbsup: It's a horrible thing to have happen but you can learn from your mistakes now and improve
Title: Re: Head buried in the sand
Post by: Geoff on February 24, 2013, 10:00:45 PM
Quote from: matt94 on February 24, 2013, 09:44:26 PM
I can certainly sympathise with you there. The roof completely caved in on my shed 2 years ago and ruined my entire layout in there. I spent a year not even bothering with it after that. But i have to say i've now got a much better layout in there than i did before. And with a much better roof on too  :thumbsup: It's a horrible thing to have happen but you can learn from your mistakes now and improve

Matt sorry about your roof caving in, the damage mainly in mine is water damage over a matter of a couple of months with me not going in the shed and alas puddles and warped wood with track twisted and scenery soggy and collapsed, but it has not beaten me, it just has given me more inspiration to get cracking with a new project. 
Title: Re: Head buried in the sand
Post by: Dave95979 on February 24, 2013, 10:08:53 PM
sorry to hear about the shed   i havnt realy got a layout as such yet but mine will be in the shed and it is one of my fears
Title: Re: Head buried in the sand
Post by: Geoff on February 24, 2013, 10:18:44 PM
Quote from: Bigric on February 24, 2013, 09:25:24 PM
Yeah , happened to me as well , in the late autumn ! Just managed to get the shed roof re-covered in time by my tame roofing man before any real damage was done . Spookily , I live near you as well , at Appleton Thorn....maybe it's a Warrington Thing ?? Or a Shed Thing ???? Ric

I think it is a shed thing it will not happen again I have bought a damp meter and I am going to keep checking the roof, I blame myself as I never went in the shed for 2 months had a lot on at the time.
Title: Re: Head buried in the sand
Post by: Geoff on February 24, 2013, 10:20:54 PM
Quote from: Dave95979 on February 24, 2013, 10:08:53 PM
sorry to hear about the shed   i havnt realy got a layout as such yet but mine will be in the shed and it is one of my fears

To tell you the truth do not let it put you off I think if you keep an eye on the roof for any damp you should be fine. It just happened I took my eye off the shed at the worse time.
Title: Re: Head buried in the sand
Post by: Bigric on February 24, 2013, 10:30:08 PM
Things us Shed Dwellers MUST have.....in an ideal world !!!

* Sound roof
* Good , safe electrics
* Effective insulation
* Effective heater for winter .

Heater - when I started , I bought a fairly cheap greenhouse heater from B&Q . Small fan heater with 2 heat options & a thermostat . Works very effectively & it's on all winter to stop the damp....low when the weather's not too bad , higher when it's really cold . Got to keep the damp out - the insulation helps greatly ! Ric
Title: Re: Head buried in the sand
Post by: 1936ace on February 24, 2013, 10:37:34 PM
wow  "a sound roof".

how big is that decoder then

:D
Bart
Title: Re: Head buried in the sand
Post by: matt94 on February 24, 2013, 11:01:24 PM
Quote from: Bigric on February 24, 2013, 10:30:08 PM
Things us Shed Dwellers MUST have.....in an ideal world !!!

* Sound roof
* Good , safe electrics
* Effective insulation
* Effective heater for winter .

Heater - when I started , I bought a fairly cheap greenhouse heater from B&Q . Small fan heater with 2 heat options & a thermostat . Works very effectively & it's on all winter to stop the damp....low when the weather's not too bad , higher when it's really cold . Got to keep the damp out - the insulation helps greatly ! Ric

Do you really keep the heater on at all times? I have a small 2kw fan heater which i use when i am in the shed only. We have an electric energy meter in the house, and when the heater is on, it says that it uses 20-25pence of energy per hour so i dont like keeping it on for very long at all really.
Title: Re: Head buried in the sand
Post by: Lawrence on February 25, 2013, 08:41:46 AM
I bought a small oil filled electric radiator, don't think I have had it above half way on 1 circuit as it gets too warm  :o
Title: Re: Head buried in the sand
Post by: Pengi on February 25, 2013, 09:27:21 AM
Quote from: Lawrence on February 25, 2013, 08:41:46 AM
I bought a small oil filled electric radiator, don't think I have had it above half way on 1 circuit as it gets too warm  :o

I'm interested in this - where did you get it from?
Title: Re: Head buried in the sand
Post by: Bigric on February 25, 2013, 10:46:05 AM
Sorry didn't reply last night - early night last night & watched MOTD 2 !! Heater - yes , I leave it on at least low all winter , to stop the damp . I have a max/min thermometer in there , so I know what it gets down to in the shed overnight in the winter . It's set so that it doesn't go down below about 4 or 5  deg C . Ric
Title: Re: Head buried in the sand
Post by: anselm on February 25, 2013, 10:55:33 AM
I use a 500w greenhouse heater on a thermostat.  It generally keeps the shed at around 5 or a little lower if it is especially cold.  I haven't insulated the roof yet - a project for later in the year.

I have a larger convector heater for when I am working out there.

Ian
Title: Re: Head buried in the sand
Post by: Lawrence on February 25, 2013, 11:38:13 AM
Quote from: Pengy on February 25, 2013, 09:27:21 AM
Quote from: Lawrence on February 25, 2013, 08:41:46 AM
I bought a small oil filled electric radiator, don't think I have had it above half way on 1 circuit as it gets too warm  :o

I'm interested in this - where did you get it from?

Think it was B&Q Jane, it was an ex display one, immaculate but no box so got it at half price, about £30 I think
Title: Re: Head buried in the sand
Post by: Bikeracer on February 25, 2013, 01:19:08 PM
I don't have a layout in my shed it's in the spare bedroom.( the layout,not the shed) :)

I do however have a 12x8 shed that has a lathe and a mill in it and other assorted equipment, and for the last 13 years I've not had any rust problems.When I put the shed up in 1989 I insulated it and lined inside with hardboard.

I was given a small storage heater at the time and that's on a clock on economy seven.If you have anything likely to rust,heating it up from cold only when you go in can lead to a lot of condensation and rust problems.

Allan
Title: Re: Head buried in the sand
Post by: d-a-n on February 25, 2013, 07:45:59 PM
I'm sorry to hear about your misfortune; I think it's good that you're seeing this as an opportunity to pick up the hobby again and start afresh. If you need a hand with sorting the shed I'm only down the road and would be happy to lend a hand lifting, cutting, drilling, ladder climbing etc (although being 6'4", ladders aren't always necessary!)
Title: Re: Head buried in the sand
Post by: Geoff on February 26, 2013, 04:18:50 PM
Quote from: d-a-n on February 25, 2013, 07:45:59 PM
I'm sorry to hear about your misfortune; I think it's good that you're seeing this as an opportunity to pick up the hobby again and start afresh. If you need a hand with sorting the shed I'm only down the road and would be happy to lend a hand lifting, cutting, drilling, ladder climbing etc (although being 6'4", ladders aren't always necessary!)

Thanks for the offer Dan but the roof of the shed is now fixed and my lads are giving me a hand to re spruce it up, but much respect for asking, oh boy this is one superb forum with folks who want to help.
Title: Re: Head buried in the sand
Post by: RussellH on February 26, 2013, 10:19:33 PM
Hi Geoff

Sorry to hear of your problems.

Iv got a 16x8 shed and after having the felt ripped off by the wind twice and several small leaks developing all in 3 years I replaced the felt with steel cladding from here....
http://www.cladco.co.uk/34100.htm (http://www.cladco.co.uk/34100.htm)
No wet problems since. Now lined with aluminised bubble wrap under chipboard, floor beefed up with an extra layer of 12mm marine ply and heating by thermostat wall mounted heater. Stays around 8DegC and no damp issues at all.

Good luck with the rebuild.

Regards
Russ
Title: Re: Head buried in the sand
Post by: Geoff on February 26, 2013, 11:04:39 PM
Quote from: RussellH on February 26, 2013, 10:19:33 PM
Hi Geoff

Sorry to hear of your problems.

Iv got a 16x8 shed and after having the felt ripped off by the wind twice and several small leaks developing all in 3 years I replaced the felt with steel cladding from here....
http://www.cladco.co.uk/34100.htm (http://www.cladco.co.uk/34100.htm)
No wet problems since. Now lined with aluminised bubble wrap under chipboard, floor beefed up with an extra layer of 12mm marine ply and heating by thermostat wall mounted heater. Stays around 8DegC and no damp issues at all.

Good luck with the rebuild.

Regards
Russ

I bet it pitter patters when it rains Russ, but hey that looks like a superb idea.
Title: Re: Head buried in the sand
Post by: RussellH on February 27, 2013, 07:49:23 PM
Hi Geoff

It not too bad noise wise as its bolted on over the original OSB boards. Iv got the plastic coated stuff that's guaranteed for 25 years with an expected service life of 40 years it should see me out. Work out the cost of re-roofing's over that period and it cheaper. Made to length and they do all the necessary fittings, seals etc. Just need a decent drill/impact driver to drive the bolts in.

Regards
Russ
Title: Re: Head buried in the sand
Post by: Bealman on February 28, 2013, 12:01:34 AM
Hi Geoff

Sorry to hear about the shed. My layout has seen considerable damage over the years also... it' s just a matter of not getting discouraged and having another go at it which you are obviously doing.

Cheers!