The Peco website shows a number of new N gauge items including
figures, fencing, red phone boxes, skips, milk churns etc.
Quote from: Agrippa on February 20, 2013, 05:53:29 PM
The Peco website shows a number of new N gauge items including
figures, fencing, red phone boxes, skips, milk churns etc.
Most of those appear to be OO ?
You're right , apologies all round, new items on website
not distinguished by scale . Disregard first post. :dunce:
Ho grippa ;).. cheers john.
I would like to see Peco release more RtR rolling stock especially coaches.
Quote from: OwL on February 20, 2013, 09:11:26 PM
I would like to see Peco release more RtR rolling stock especially coaches.
They are doing at the correct gauge but they seem to have got the scale wrong by a factor of 2!!
(Lynton & Barnstable in 009...) :P
Quote from: PLD on February 21, 2013, 01:19:48 AM
They are doing at the correct gauge but they seem to have got the scale wrong by a factor of 2!!
It's a similar problem with their concrete points. I'd love it if Peco could introduce some, to match their code 55 concrete sleeper flexitrack.
Hmmm, a zombie thread with a very appropriate "# of posts" being 666 for Arrachogaidh !!!
I think Peco see the quality level of produce in rolling stock from the main players & have realised they can't compete ... so don't ...
A lot of their wagons, look to be pre-nationalisation and private owner which, until recently maybe, Farish haven't looked at, so maybe they are happy cornering their own little part of the market? Who knows.....
Peco dipped their toe in the water with the 2251 but were not happy with the response. I gather the model was a slow seller and they are not planning to produce any more. Some people did not want to pay extra for DCC onboard, others were not happy with the tender that had to be dimensionally compromised in order to accomodate said DCC.
With Dapol and Farish slugging it out and smaller firms like DJM and Rapido nibbling round the edges, I do not see a lot of scope for Peco to enter the RTR stock market. However I suspect that the majority of layouts will continue to feature their products either scenically or with the track, so they may have decided simply to stick with what they do best.
They have not been devoid of innovation, they brought out the 3-way point and scissor cross-over not that long ago. But without a serious competitor for RTR trackwork, there is no incentive for them to rush out new products.
Quote from: Karhedron on January 20, 2015, 03:26:07 PM
But without a serious competitor for RTR trackwork, there is no incentive for them to rush out new products.
I agree that basically Peco is the main RTR track supplier/manufacturer in the UK but other makes
are available if your prepared to look at some of the continental/US manufacturers.
Quote from: jonclox on January 20, 2015, 04:06:38 PM
I agree that basically Peco is the main RTR track supplier/manufacturer in the UK but other makes are available if your prepared to look at some of the continental/US manufacturers.
That is true but to my eye, they look a worse representation of british track than Peco (which is far from perfect itself).
I really like FiNetrax but I will have to decide if I am willing to kit-build my track if/when I start my next layout. I am not ruling it out but I am not relishing the prospect either. :-\
Referring to the OP, it looks to me that some of those 00 products are rehashed from the old Merit range of years ago?
Peco RTR wagons have never impressed me, especially when I started out in N and didn't have the confidence to chop off a coupling to fit an NEM pocket. Now, I often consider the kits but the painting and faff of finding transfers puts me off. If only Peco did a kit of their MGR HAA wagon though...
Funny, I've always liked Peco wagons. I've always found that they roll nicely, the wheels don't fall out, and the ELC coupling is reliable.
Can't please everybody...
Chris
Yeah, I've got a soft spot for them, too. I actually have a lot of them, as back when I started, I actually preferred them over GF wagons because in the days of deep flanges, I didn't think the black plastic wheels on the Peco wagons looked as overscale and obtrusive as the GF metal ones. I like all the varied and colourful liveries, too.
You must remember that Peco were the pioneers in this field, and the design and tooling of these wagons is now old. The fact that they are still being bought is a tribute to their longevity, methinks.
I quit like Peco's branded box vans. Wish they would do some more of the old brands that were about in the 30s and 40s... Pears soap, etc
C. :)
Quote from: d-a-n on January 20, 2015, 08:08:19 PM
Now, I often consider the kits but the painting and faff of finding transfers puts me off.
No help on the painting, but surely the NGS has sorted the transfer issue ?
Peco - Transfers - great - Robbies Rolling Stock !!!!!!
£1 per wagon for full sides
(http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx20/Rabbitaway/Model%20Railway/SAM_6278.jpg) (http://s737.photobucket.com/user/Rabbitaway/media/Model%20Railway/SAM_6278.jpg.html)
Shame about the spelling mistake of 'PLANE', though :-X
You need to learn true Scottish :P
Plean coal mine is real - lovely place really!! - if you like ex mining villages :hmmm:
Quote from: newportnobby on January 20, 2015, 09:45:27 PM
Shame about the spelling mistake of 'PLANE', though :-X
I know you are a bit behind the times over there in Lancashire but coal fired aeroplanes?? :goggleeyes: ;D :no:
Quote from: Rabbitaway on January 20, 2015, 09:51:24 PM
You need to learn true Scottish :P
Plean coal mine is real - lovely place really!! - if you like ex mining villages :hmmm:
Plenty of those where I came from:
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=22698.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=22698.0)
Great wagons, though. Top marks! :thumbsup:
Quote from: PLD on January 20, 2015, 10:22:48 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on January 20, 2015, 09:45:27 PM
Shame about the spelling mistake of 'PLANE', though :-X
I know you are a bit behind the times over there in Lancashire but coal fired aeroplanes?? :goggleeyes: ;D :no:
I'm replying to this on my steam powered laptop :nerner:
Quote from: newportnobby on January 21, 2015, 09:44:25 AM
I'm replying to this on my steam powered laptop :nerner:
Cutting edge of technology ! Mine's powered by a waterwheel, doesn't work in
a drought.
BTW I like Peco wagons, and also the kits, cheap and cheerful, like me....
Quote from: Agrippa on January 21, 2015, 09:59:54 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on January 21, 2015, 09:44:25 AM
I'm replying to this on my steam powered laptop :nerner:
Cutting edge of technology ! Mine's powered by a waterwheel, doesn't work in
a drought.
BTW I like Peco wagons, and also the kits, cheap and cheerful, like me....
Back up power supply is a hamster (if my cat hasn't eaten it :worried:)
Anyway..........when I first started out in N, Peco was really the only supplier of trucks and I've liked them ever since. Someday I'll get round to fitting their electro magnets and see if they work :uneasy: I'd like to see Peco add 'eras' to their trucks, though, for anyone daft enough not to have joined this forum and read some history about the vehicles. For example, how many of us bought their 4 wheel tank wagons only to discover they were phased out before the time our layouts were set in? :doh:
Ignoring all your other time-period or whatever waffle ya gannin on aboot, Mick, I experimented with the little metal strips on the Elsie Tanner couplings a long time ago.
Not impressed, As others have said, Peco wagons are extremely light (weight), and, well, fitting those little metal bits are a royal pain and can foul wagons on low radius curves... hence derailing them when they negotiated them before.
On a positive note, though, I can see possible applications apart from uncoupling for those below board Pecobelectromagnets.
Have ya been told today, NPN?
George :D
I asked about remote uncoupling with Farish Rapidos at the Gaugemaster shop when I first started out and they sold me some of those little metal strips...they didn't work! Thanks for posting the pic of the transferred wagons Rabbitaway, I'll have to see whether they exist for things like 16t, pre tops wagons and 12t vans as these could be assembled and sprayed en-masse, maybe making the saving over Farish ready-mades!
Quote from: Bealman on January 20, 2015, 08:32:44 PM
Yeah, I've got a soft spot for them, too. I actually have a lot of them, as back when I started, I actually preferred them over GF wagons because in the days of deep flanges, I didn't think the black plastic wheels on the Peco wagons looked as overscale and obtrusive as the GF metal ones. I like all the varied and colourful liveries, too.
You must remember that Peco were the pioneers in this field, and the design and tooling of these wagons is now old. The fact that they are still being bought is a tribute to their longevity, methinks.
Agreed. I do like the Peco wagons, their pre-nationalisation vans being especially good IMO. Their CDAs are also nice, and a must for any Cornish layout!
Quote from: d-a-n on January 21, 2015, 03:53:32 PM
Thanks for posting the pic of the transferred wagons Rabbitaway, I'll have to see whether they exist for things like 16t, pre tops wagons and 12t vans as these could be assembled and sprayed en-masse, maybe making the saving over Farish ready-mades!
The only more modern transfers Robbie does are for 35 ton tank wagons based on the Peco kit, he does not do general BR wagons only private owner stuff. You will need to get these from either Fox Transfers or NGS
I found looking at the cost of these general wagons there is not a saving as the RTR finished ones only sell for a £1 or so more than the kits.
Yeah, but you get the enjoyment of making them & setting up a specific one the mfrs don't ...