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Title: Which Drill ?
Post by: upnick on January 25, 2013, 01:42:43 PM
Hi  All,   

After 6  years service it seems either the battery or charger is on it's way out on  my Bosch  9.6V cordless drill,   i  have an  electric  drill  for when  it,s along job  but the cordless is brilliant for general  use.

My question  is  while i'm  contemplating  buying  battery /charger i  might as well get a fresh drill   which  seems to  be 14.4V   average, any reccomendations for a good one  not just  with the price in mind &  where to get  it   ........ if memory serves me right this one was  £40  &  came with a pack  of bits

The old one  might be useful   to  someone  as it's in  fair condition  so  i  can recoup some of the cost ?   
Title: Re: Which Drill ?
Post by: Bikeracer on January 25, 2013, 01:55:19 PM
I bought one of these and it seems to be a really good tool,it's got lithium batteries which quick charge and what I really like about it is the small size and light weight.
It felt strange at first having no heavy battery stuck on the end to get in the way but it really is comfortable to use and the small size means you can get in places the normal battery drill won't fit.

I used mine to build my layout and I've never regretted buying it.

http://www.screwfix.com/p/erbauer-erp223ddh-10-8v-1-3ah-li-ion-cordless-drill-driver/52782 (http://www.screwfix.com/p/erbauer-erp223ddh-10-8v-1-3ah-li-ion-cordless-drill-driver/52782)

Allan
Title: Re: Which Drill ?
Post by: scotsoft on January 25, 2013, 01:57:25 PM
Since it is a Bosch, I would imagine you should be able to get a new battery for it and I would bet it is the battery since you have had it six years, you can only charge them so often.

If you are going ahead with a new drill it seems logical to stick with Bosch since you have had good service from your now deceased one RIP.

cheers John.
Title: Re: Which Drill ?
Post by: saddler on January 25, 2013, 02:30:48 PM
i sold a dead bosch 9.6v with 2 dead batteries and charger on ebay for £25 recently, being good quality people will buy to refurbish so you should get a bit towards a new one, i only tend to buy dewalt or makita tools lately but for general use can highly recomend the erbauer tools from screwfix, good prices and you usually get two batteries :D
Title: Re: Which Drill ?
Post by: Newportnobby on January 25, 2013, 03:07:08 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on January 25, 2013, 01:57:25 PM
Since it is a Bosch, I would imagine you should be able to get a new battery for it and I would bet it is the battery since you have had it six years, you can only charge them so often.

If you are going ahead with a new drill it seems logical to stick with Bosch since you have had good service from your now deceased one RIP.

cheers John.
Not necessarily so, John. I had a Bosch cordless for a long time and, like Upnicks, the battery wouldn't charge. When I tried to source a replacement battery I was told they had amended the spec and the old ones were no longer available.
Having liked the Bosch, I bought a new cordless with twin batteries in a neat case from a well known DIY store as they were on offer at about £55. This one also has a small light in case I need to make holes in the dark ;)
Title: Re: Which Drill ?
Post by: REGP on January 25, 2013, 03:19:30 PM
Strangely enough my own cordless drill (a Boch 14.4 voltage) gave up the ghost this week when I was trying to fit a drop down table in the kitchen.

But as it was never much good at holding a charge overnight I to  am puzzling over what to get as a replacement.

Been thinking  about the one Lidle have been advertising this week, but am now wondering if the  one from  Screwfix  would be better for general LIGHT DIY work.  Anyone got experience of either of them?

Ray
Title: Re: Which Drill ?
Post by: Bikeracer on January 25, 2013, 03:30:19 PM
Personally I'd steer clear of anything ni-cad or ni-mh powered and go for a lithium battery.

I've been very happy with the one in the link I posted earlier and can only endorse the reviews of it that have been posted on the Screwfix site.
It's also got a light for drilling or screwing in the dark,the light starts to flicker when it needs recharging.

Allan
Title: Re: Which Drill ?
Post by: bbdave on January 25, 2013, 03:45:50 PM
We go through lots of drills at work the Erbauers we have had have given excellent service as have the Hitatchi Boshs etc.

The money is in the battery Nicd and Nimhs are good you just need to run them flat (NOT tape the trigger in)!!! and full charge them every few charges i don't know why people are anti they take alot more grief than lithium batteries,which are lighter so less weight to hold but the lithium batteries keep full power to discharge rather than the steady loss of Nicd/Nimh.

I would go for as high Ah as possible this gives it duration personally i don't use less than 18v but ours do get heavy use


Dave
Title: Re: Which Drill ?
Post by: Malc on January 25, 2013, 04:07:16 PM
You either buy a cheap/cheerful one and be prepared to throw it away afer 12 months, or invest in something half decent, like a Makita, or the one Bike racer posted from Screwfix. http://www.screwfix.com/p/erbauer-erp223ddh-10-8v-1-3ah-li-ion-cordless-drill-driver/52782. (http://www.screwfix.com/p/erbauer-erp223ddh-10-8v-1-3ah-li-ion-cordless-drill-driver/52782.) Erbauer have been around for ages and the thing I like is that they are quire light and ergan..ergun.. easy to hold.
Title: Re: Which Drill ?
Post by: davieb on January 25, 2013, 04:07:42 PM
Hi Nick  :wave:

you could always try CPC they have replacement batteries for Bosch power tools

not the easiest site to navigate

http://cpc.farnell.com/ (http://cpc.farnell.com/)

hope this is of some help

dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Which Drill ?
Post by: Rob H on January 25, 2013, 04:45:47 PM
The old adage measure twice cut once is similar when buying a cordless drill - buy well, buy once !!
For me Dewalt knocks everything else into a cocked hat  -  ask TANK !!

Recently B & Q had them on offer with 2 batteries for £99

Rob.
Title: Re: Which Drill ?
Post by: Calnefoxile on January 25, 2013, 05:13:44 PM

Erm guys, I'm a bit confused here  :confused2: :confused2:

I've just looked at the battery for my Bosch drill, which is also fubar'd, and it gives me a part number of 2607335273, it also states 12v - 1.2Ah and its Ni-CD. So i went onto the CPC website as Dave mentioned and guess what!! they don't have my model  :hmmm: :hmmm:

So I went to Fleabay and typed in the Part number in the search function and got the following http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-3-0Ah-battery-for-Bosch-2607335273-BAT043-BAT045-GSB-12-VE-2-GSR-12-VE-2-UK-/160921676500?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item2577adead4 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-3-0Ah-battery-for-Bosch-2607335273-BAT043-BAT045-GSB-12-VE-2-GSR-12-VE-2-UK-/160921676500?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item2577adead4) which is a 3.0Ah battery, now my question is ('cos I'm having a senior moment, and keep talking myself out of my answer  ;) ) will it make any difference with the original battery being 1.2Ah and a pattern part replacement being 3.0Ah???

I don't think it will, but my alter ego says "oh yes it will" and I keep arguing with myself  :worried: :worried:

Cheers

Neal.
Title: Re: Which Drill ?
Post by: saddler on January 25, 2013, 05:45:50 PM
should in theory work ok but your charger may take an age to charge it up  ;)
Title: Re: Which Drill ?
Post by: GlenP on January 25, 2013, 08:15:23 PM
I'd go with the above advice on buying decent! I got a cheap DirectPower cordless from Screwfix as a present and it's blooming useless! Good job it came with two batteries as even with care and conditioning they don't last long froma full charge.

The main problem with NiMh batteries is the self-discharge rate, if you don't use them they go flat quite quickly.

Most of the stuff on the railway has been done with a Ryobi cordless screwdriver. It's got a Lithium battery, only 4v but runs for ever and is small enough to get into tight spaces. It'll drill up to 5mm in timber without any problems at all. It is my second one, unfortuately the first one died after several years use (mechanical rather than electrical failure or I would probably have changed the battery). Having bought the first one cheap complete with case, accessories, etc. I was quite pleased to buy a replacement cheap in a blister-pack and keep the old bits!

Some time soon I'm going to be hunting for a Lithium cordless drill so I'll bear the above advice in mind!

Glen
Title: Re: Which Drill ?
Post by: upnick on January 25, 2013, 09:43:48 PM
Many thanks to you all  lots of good information to sift through  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Which Drill ?
Post by: B757-236GT on January 25, 2013, 09:50:57 PM
I use a mc-kellar drill, never heard of them? Well they were the focus diy own brand arm. Mine was bought s/h from cash converters 4 years ago for a £10 (it looked hammered then) and in all that time its still going strong having been used a few times every week, the battery lasts fine as long as you dont leave it attatched the drill when your not using it however the superdupa lithium ion bosch thing which cost nearly 10 times the price (it didnt as it was a prize but if i bought one it would have cost it) is naff in the extreme, it never holds charge and even when fully charged it last minutes, and no its not dodgy as this is the first of two, i swapped the first one because i thought it was broken, on the expierience of this obviously not! The moral of my story is fancier doesnt always make better! Anyone want to buy a bosch drill?

Richard
Title: Re: Which Drill ?
Post by: REGP on January 25, 2013, 10:06:28 PM
Thanks for the info guys, my Bosch is so old I can't find a replacement on the sites mentioned.

But as I don't use it that much i'll  have a look at the Erbauer from Screwfix as it could fit the bill.

Ray
Title: Re: Which Drill ?
Post by: Newportnobby on January 25, 2013, 10:08:15 PM
When the battery in mine went ti pear shaped I rang Bosch service dept and it was they who told me they were no longer made and I had to get a new drill :worried:
Title: Re: Which Drill ?
Post by: REGP on January 25, 2013, 10:17:53 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on January 25, 2013, 10:08:15 PM
When the battery in mine went ti pear shaped I rang Bosch service dept and it was they who told me they were no longer made and I had to get a new drill :worried:

And when they did make them they charged almost as much as for a new drill!

Ray