Wow 100% price rise and an overall reduction in prizes (except for 3 ball's) I think that's an end for me doing the National Lottery :thumbsdown:
i don't see their reasoning behind this.it's not as if they have to charge a certain price to make a profit.the prize fund is dependant on the number of tickets sold.this is just an example of greed.obviously the lunatics have taken over the asylum.
I think people will just cut the number of lines that they put on because currently nobody has spare cash for luxuries due to the state of the economy. Then the total prize fund will fall meaning you get less for your bet.
I for one will pull out of the work syndicate (£10 a month) and half the two lines I put on each week to 1 line a week so I still only pay £2 a week at home. Net loss to the National lottery=£10 a month and only one line a week going on instead of 2.
Yours dissapointedly :veryangry:
Mark
Quote from: Tom@Crewe on January 17, 2013, 07:44:46 PM
Wow 100% price rise and an overall reduction in prizes (except for 3 ball's) I think that's an end for me doing the National Lottery :thumbsdown:
You get vastly better returns throwing darts at the stocks page of the newspaper and buying a few (*). The national lottery is basically a fatcut funding exercise IMHO. They should have let Branson run it as a non-profit as he offered to.
Even then it's still basically a tax on people who don't understand statistics :veryangry:
Alan
(*) in fact the darts method, and random picking by a cat routinely outperform the "experts"
I've only ever bought two lottery tickets.
One in the first draw ever (didn't win) and one about 5 years ago (didn't win).
Shan't be buying any more.
A[art from anything else when I see the draws on the TV it's completely incomprehensible to me with thunderballs and bonus balls etc.
We usually buy a ticket each,but with the doubling of the cost we won't be bothering again.
I think it's just greed from Camelot,I imagine there will be quite a few who won't bother anymore.
Allan
I won
I'll be stopping my weekly purchase when this comes in, utter disgrace, let Branson do it instead of these money grabbing gits >:(
we play every week by direct debit "fire and forget" i think we'll be modifying our tickets, at the moment we pay roughly £20 a month, don't think i can justify £40 really,,,,, ::)
don't do the lottery on a regular basis, but think I'll do the health one instead.
we do also do the air ambulance one, so we might just increase that instead. at least the money goes to something worth while.
don't start me on what the camelot lot do with theirs :veryangry:
Used to do the lottery, until they declared us "non residents" unfit to play. Despite paying from a UK bank account and being a UK Tax payer. Now do the Italian one which is E1 a time for two entries..bargain. Still never one anything though...... :(
Don't do the lottery,horses,fruit machines....etc.Gambling is a mugs game.Have you noticed how the tv screens are now saturated with gambling adverts,poker games.The high streets are full of betting shops,and all at a time when spare money is at it's tightest.(Why is that)?
How many people play the lottery every week and although they win nothing will play again the next week for fear of not putting their numbers on and that being the week those numbers come out.
How many people play every week because they see the lottery as the only way to having a better life or escaping poverty.
I think the people who run the lottery are banking on these type of people playing regardless of the increase.
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on January 18, 2013, 04:04:36 PM
Now do the Italian one which is E1 a time for two entries..bargain. Still never one anything though...... :(
Bit off topic, Jerry, but if you press ALT GR and the $ key it makes € :)
Scandalous as has been said already should have let Branson run it in the first place.
I would never do the same numbers because when they increased it to two draws people playing the same numbers were conned into having to play twice a week in case their numbers came up, and so it went on with the other draws they invented.
Is it still owned by a Canadian Pension Fund even so the profits don't stay in this country? other countries are benefiting from the UK players naivety.
The one concern with the 'Health Lottery' is the government will see the lottery funding as an excuse to reduce the Tax payers contributions and the NHS will be no better off.
Tony
Quote from: newportnobby on January 18, 2013, 05:10:23 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on January 18, 2013, 04:04:36 PM
Now do the Italian one which is E1 a time for two entries..bargain. Still never one anything though...... :(
Bit off topic, Jerry, but if you press ALT GR and the $ key it makes € :)
Always wondered how to get that - could have done with this post when I sent off my holiday compensation claim!!
I do 2 'lucky dip' lotto numbers each week on line. During the last 12 months I have had 5 'wins' (only £10 a time) so my costs arnt covered but like an idiot I just carry on hoping that one day........................... ::) it might be more than just the £10 :drool:
Once the price goes up I may well rethink my purchases :-\ :-\
I'll keep playing until they put it up (in the autumn apparently). I've played it since day one and have won a few tenners and a couple of £50ish wins - i was hoping to get back the money i've paid in one day.... oh well ! :(
Still, about 6 months to go yet - there's still time !
Read above posts with some interest.
For those who are giving up their pound (or more) per week, can I suggest spending that pound doing a line on the Football Pools?
The National Lottery destroyed the Pools industry in the 90s with many jobs being lost. There are still several hundred still employed in Liverpool and Im sure they would gladly appeciate some support.
Re Lanky Giraffe's post I don't think the lottery destroyed the pools
industry, the pools were complicated to play with bankers and lit-plans
and coupons were almost incomprehensible to non-players, 1,2 x etc.
Also they were usually collected by agents or sent by post, a cumbersome
system, they should have adopted the system used in Europe where
you just picked numbers like the lottery at a shop or kiosk.
Also the bookies brought out a wide range of betting on football including
fixed odds and single bets.
By the way I have won the lottery twice in the past month,£92 and £10
last Saturday. When I went to the shop yesterday to collect my winnings
the woman put the ticket through the machine and confirmed I had won £10.
She then asked "Do you want it in cash?"
I felt like saying "I'll take it in negotiable bonds"
I accept the Pools may have been complicated to play to non players etc, but the fact is that the National Lottery did have a massive detrimental effect on Pools industry.
The first year after the launch of lottery, Littlwoods sales were down 27%.
Also, the lottery had an unfair advantage by having to pay less betting duty, had opportunity to advertise on telly and had universal distribution whereby pools had restricted rail presence.
By the time the playing field was level ( pardon the pun) the Lottery had taken half of the pools business.
Other forms of gambling have had an impact, never so much as the lottery though .
Oh, and congrats on your recent wins.
Lanky
I think it is wonderful how Lotteries in the UK donate money to Preserved Railways and Charities :angel: here in Oz anything left over from Lotto goes to the Government :veryangry:
Thanks for congrats , Lanky.I note your points regarding the
disadvantageous duty and advertising restrictions imposed
on the pools industry. Years ago I did Vernons and had a standing
order for 8-10 weeks, and won approx £1,100 one time.
When the lottery started I switched because it was more
convenient and I could do as many , as few or no entries each
week as I wished.
Possibly the more "Show Biz" style of the lottery has helped it
as the draws are done in bingo style as opposed to watching the
football results coming up at 4.45 on a Saturday afternoon.
Also possibly the lottery is more attractive to women. In an
office I worked in one person was a Littlewoods collector
and of the 15-20 coupons he collected about 2-3 were
from women , who got colleagues to fill them out for them
In another office which had a lottery syndicate about 70 %
of the 35-40 members were women.
Perhaps this is significant, perhaps not.
Cheers
Not just women - there are some of us men with no knowledge of or interest in football whatsoever! (Or, in my case, any sport at all, but I realise that part probably puts me firmly in the statistical outliers...)
Hello T-P, it was (is) perfectly easy to win the pools knowing nothing about football
and many big winners were as such , however the coupons themselves were offputting
with their tiny squares , columns and complex sections. I know many men who are not
interested in football, and other sport. I myself am completely uninterested in rugby
and American football and can put up with Wimbledon once a year.
And don't even mention pro darts!
Any Lottery or Pools or whatever is exactly what is says on the tin - a lottery ie. a game of chance/luck and no knowledge is a prerequisite. It may or may not help to know a bit about any game being gambled on but so often the 'formbook' goes out of the window :-\
Whichever way you prefer, it's all a stab in the dark and a pure fluke if you win. Good luck though, and please remember when you signed up the forum is entitled to 10% of any winnings >:D :laugh:
NN - If I had been the couple in Largs (Not far from where I live) who won
the Euro Lottery the forum would be better of by £16M ..., with the change
left over I'd buy one of those Silver Link limited editions on Ebay..... :D