Hi all :wave:
Just found this on another railway forum so thought i would share the link :thumbsup:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01q9vhy (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01q9vhy)
Wonder if there will be any N Gauge featured :hmmm:
dave :thumbsup:
Well spotted, and thanks for posting. Seems like a "Must see!"
Why do I get the feeling it will only be the larger gauges that are featured :hmmm:
However, I am sure it will be worth watching and thank you for bringing this programme to the forums attention.
cheers John.
Heard sometime last year that this was coming up, been waiting ever since!
Thanks for the link :thumbsup:
Paul
If somebody starts yaking on about their old Triang 'Flying Scotsman' in the show i'll go nuts !!! :veryangry:
Got a feeling this will be very similar to James May's 'Toy stories' and will probably feature a lot of Pete Watermans layout, although it's really amazing - almost every show that talks about models... and there's his layout :smackedface:
Sorry to sound negative, but the media really don't have a clue about our hobby and every time i am shown these poorly researched and though out programs, my heart sinks... :(
I could be wrong of course, I'll will be watching tonight and will have a humble pie on standby, just in case ! :D
Oooh something to look forward to. I like Mr Waterman - always makes me smile.
Paddy
Quote from: 4x2 on January 16, 2013, 01:42:52 PM
I could be wrong of course, I'll will be watching tonight and will have a humble pie on standby, just in case ! :D
Mike,
You might have a long wait, it's on next Wednesday 23rd January ;) ;)
Cheers
Neal.
Hi chaps and chappettes,having seen this I thought I'd set it for my sky + box to record it and found no mention of it on BBC 4 so I looked on their website and discovered its on next wednesday,the 23rd January and repeated the following night,not tonight as has been suggested.
Just thought I'd inform everyone just in case they made special arrangements to watch it.
Pete
:Class31: :Class37: :NGaugersRule:
Quote from: Calnefoxile on January 16, 2013, 04:22:27 PM
Quote from: 4x2 on January 16, 2013, 01:42:52 PM
I could be wrong of course, I'll will be watching tonight and will have a humble pie on standby, just in case ! :D
Mike,
You might have a long wait, it's on next Wednesday 23rd January ;) ;)
Cheers
Neal.
oh well... :-[ Next Wednesday then !
May be worth watching on BBC4 at 9pm on Wednesday 23rd Jan.
"Examines the poularity of trainsets. What started out as an adult obsession with building model railways became the iconic passtime of the 1950s/60s".
No idea what it's like but may be worth watching.
Thanks but see also.............
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10738.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10738.0)
Sky+ set - thanks for the pointer!
:smackedface: :D
Paul
Hi Folk if you haven'y seen the TV guide for next week you might be interested in a documentary on BBC4 at 9pm. Its called 'The Joy of set: The Model Railway Story'.The write up looks interesting???
Dennisy :claphappy:
Err, it's already been posted, here:-
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10738.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10738.0)
AND here:-
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10788.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10788.0)
;)
Paul
REMINDER: :bump:
On tonight, BBC4 9pm.
:toot:
Paul
Hi,
Four short, but perhaps for some, reassuring clips from the show here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0140zth (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0140zth) - as I mentioned on another recent tv topic, I've found timeshift documentaries to be pretty darn good on the whole, managing to be entertaining enough to keep the 'passing' viewer from moving on while avoiding the dumbing-down excesses almost universal in modern times - it can be done if the will/ability is there, and if so will quite probably feel all too short 8)
Regards, Gerry.
I don't think you can do the subject justice in the time allotted - always the challenge with TV. Railways are so tangled up in Victorian/Edwardian british politics - an area that makes the current shower look positively honest and responsible.
Things like the Euston Square Confederacy could fill an entire book of their own.
Thanks for the reminder, Sky+ recorder set... :thankyousign:
Quote from: 4x2 on January 16, 2013, 01:42:52 PM
and will probably feature a lot of Pete Watermans layout, although it's really amazing - almost every show that talks about models... and there's his layout :smackedface:
Five minutes in and there's Pete and his layout - enjoying it?? :laugh:
I think Pete is great, he's a high-profile figure who's nuts about trains both real and model, and he really doesn't give a
sh stuff what anyone else thinks!! :claphappy:
Personally I think it's only because of people like him that so many more famous people now talk about building model railways a bit more - Rod Stewart, Phil Collins, etc, even Anne Diamond has a blog on her model railway :thumbsup:
Paul
Anne Diamond ????
Crickey, didn't expect that one... Well done that woman 😃
Happily watching this for the first 15 minutes only to be interupted :veryangry: by Number 1 son to say that Grandaughter Mia had arrived that minute ! :bounce: :bounce:
NO CONSIDERATION THESE YOUNGSTERS !!!!!!!
I'm sure she could've crossed her legs for another 45 minutes!! :smiley-laughing:
Paul
:laughabovepost:
Quote from: Sprintex on January 23, 2013, 09:58:18 PM
I'm sure she could've crossed her legs for another 45 minutes!!
Paul
:laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
No consideration these young folks...
Is it repeated ? ... Gosh no that would be twins....
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on January 23, 2013, 10:01:36 PM
Is it repeated ?
Yep, it's on again at 3am tomorrow and at half past midnight next tuesday ;)
Paul
There was a modern image layout pictured near the end, im sure it was an N Gauge layout, and im sure i saw NGF written in graffiti under a bridge, it was the layout with a blue class 153 rolling over the top of it.
Bet someone with i player can check it out.
Just checked as I recorded it on DVD - it says "NCF" ;)
There's another bit of grafitti a few seconds later that says "bell end" :laugh:
Paul
Which gives me an idea, i might make some NGF grafitti, and 'Tag' the layout under my bridge.
hi all the modern era layout was set in wales and i think it was indeed n gauge layout and was in the model railway magazines which one not sure but will check tomorrow.i know it was only about 3 foot long with fiddle yards at both ends.and was put on ebay after been in mag.i think it sold for just over £300 pounds. i was going to bid on it but wifey said no more layouts. :NGaugersRule: :)chris
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on January 23, 2013, 09:54:03 PM
Happily watching this for the first 15 minutes only to be interupted :veryangry: by Number 1 son to say that Grandaughter Mia had arrived that minute ! :bounce: :bounce:
NO CONSIDERATION THESE YOUNGSTERS !!!!!!!
Congratulations Grandad - could this be an excuse to buy her a trainset?
Quote from: ewsclass66 on January 23, 2013, 11:36:50 PM
hi all the modern era layout was set in wales and i think it was indeed n gauge layout and was in the model railway magazines which one not sure but will check tomorrow.i know it was only about 3 foot long with fiddle yards at both ends.and was put on ebay after been in mag.i think it sold for just over £300 pounds. i was going to bid on it but wifey said no more layouts. :NGaugersRule: :) chris
You haven't thought this through properly have you? ::)
Buy the layout, put wifey on Ebay! :laugh:
Paul
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on January 23, 2013, 09:54:03 PM
Grandaughter Mia had arrived that minute ! :bounce: :bounce:
NO CONSIDERATION THESE YOUNGSTERS !!!!!!!
Hearty congratulations, Jerry.
You and Mrs H must be well pleased. Hope mother and baby Mia are doing well :beers:
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on January 23, 2013, 09:54:03 PM
Happily watching this for the first 15 minutes only to be interupted :veryangry: by Number 1 son to say that Grandaughter Mia had arrived that minute ! :bounce: :bounce:
NO CONSIDERATION THESE YOUNGSTERS !!!!!!!
Congratulations to all concerned. May you all get loads of joy from the young lady
Huge congratulations, and when they cry you can hand them back 😉
Thanks All, flying over next Wednesday for a week to meet the new un. May just find time to sneek out to visit the odd model shop or 2. Will start practising my "Honest I bought them for the baby" face.......
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on January 24, 2013, 12:12:50 PM
Thanks All, flying over next Wednesday for a week to meet the new un. May just find time to sneek out to visit the odd model shop or 2. Will start practising my "Honest I bought them for the baby" face.......
Uh-oh :worried:
I have a feeling an outpatients visit will be forthcoming :doh:
I enjoyed the 'Joy of train sets' programme on BBC4 last night. It was well made, and for once wasn't a sneering put down of model railway enthusiasts.
It was certainly a good model history lesson up to the end of the sixties when the programme seemed to run out of steam (sic) and failed to finish on a high with the 'modern' era and what we enjoy now; highly detailed, high quality RTR, DCC, sound, etc.. Part two to be commissioned perhaps. I doubt it. But at least it put the hobby in a relatively decent light although it seemed to infer that it is the sole preserve of nostalgic steamy oldies.
H.
Quote from: H on January 24, 2013, 05:49:26 PM
I enjoyed the 'Joy of train sets' programme on BBC4 last night. It was well made, and for once wasn't a sneering put down of model railway enthusiasts.
It was certainly a good model history lesson up to the end of the sixties when the programme seemed to run out of steam (sic) and failed to finish on a high with the 'modern' era and what we enjoy now; highly detailed, high quality RTR, DCC, sound, etc.. Part two to be commissioned perhaps. I doubt it. But at least it put the hobby in a relatively decent light although it seemed to infer that it is the sole preserve of nostalgic steamy oldies.
H.
Very well said H :thumbsup:
I totally agree. I found the guy who scratch built his own models rather interesting and a credit to the hobby with his open-ness and skills.
I think H is right in that there should have been more focus on the future including DCC.....
It definitely needs a part two to bring the viewer up to date with what can be achieved these days.
cheers John.
"Joy of train sets" - Dan Snow: watch and learn >:D
Agree with the comments on a part 2, unlikely but well deserved
Also nice to see Model Rails Ben Jones on there, looks older in his picture in MR ;D
i thought it was a good programme as well and agree with Lawrence re Dan Snows' offering,watched pt 2 and it wasn't much better than pt 1.might as well watch the last one to complete the agony.
Just watched this on IPlayer and most impressed. So nice to see a program about the hobby that doesn't depict us as social inadequates with poor hygiene :)
Perhaps there has been a slight shift away from what might be called 'Ladism' towards recognising that it might actually be a good thing to be creative.
Sky+ remote record failed :( I'll have another go for the re-run, or fire up iplayer, I guess..
Quote from: OwL on January 23, 2013, 10:24:01 PM
There was a modern image layout pictured near the end, im sure it was an N Gauge layout, and im sure i saw NGF written in graffiti under a bridge, it was the layout with a blue class 153 rolling over the top of it.
Bet someone with i player can check it out.
Sorry to dissapoint but it wasn't N Gauge....
It was infact Waungron Park which is 4mm scale...
See http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/46558-waungron-park/ (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/46558-waungron-park/)
On the program itself, it was well thought out and put the hobby in a positive light, but it did leave you wanting more; more in depth in some areas and to bring the story closer to the present day with the tribulations of manufacturers in the1970s/80s and the resurgence of the last 10 years.
If there is sufficient positive feedback, perhaps there is scope for a follow-up?
Hi everyone,
newly reg. on the forum, as a result of BBC4 Train Sets!, and thinking maybe I should try something in N (age and eyes permitting)
may I do my 2 1/2d worth ? :-)
I enjoyed the program sound track, largely nostalgia having started out with a Dublo trainset some time ago (!) [but we were lower class, Dad smoked fags and we looked up to pipe smokers and got a crick in the neck ]
I also enjoyed the pictures but :-
but the video was (a) to be kind : an interesting background; or (b) unkind : mostly unrelated to the audio, it whizzed around in uncontrolled bursts 1/2 sec. here or couple of seconds there !
The programme could have been split in two, the nostalgic/historic audio could easily have gone out on Radio4
whilst the video could have gone out on TV ( in maybe several parts) with its own sound track " this was three rail, this was stud, this became the flower of modelling in 19xx with this model by Mr yy ,,, " with enough time to see the model, without it flashing so fast before our eyes !
If you missed this programme it is on BBC 4 I-Player, Wednesday 9pm.
Am currently watching it, nostalgic!
Regards
Chris
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unfortunately this seems to be the standard of documentary programme making these days - they seem to think we all have the attention span of a 5 year old who has just got their hands on the TV remote for the first time - all sound bytes and no substance. If we wanted a programme that properly told our history, we would have to make it ourselves, as no one in the modern media would take us seriously.
Totally agree with Captainelectra's post yesterday - this programme was (IMHO) a good , positive look at the hobby with a really interesting & detailed look at the origins in this country . It was probably always going to come up short from our (biased) point of view , but as an objective look for outsiders to gain an inkling of what the hobby is about , I thought it was a very positive snapshot . Ric
I watched last night and enjoyed it and we have at least one new member as a result, welcome in RChook you should enjoy yourself on here :hellosign:
Welcome RChook!
Watched this just now while playing with my train set; I thought it was very well made and covered enough without going into the detail which we love but bores and leaves 99.9% of people disengaged. They did well to cram as much as they did into the allotted time and struck a fine balance between the real railways, model ones and social reasons behind modelling, we recently had the One Show at our school to cover a story about the snow (aired on Wednesday 23rd January) and the team which arrived shot hours of footage to make a featurette of only about 5 minutes, I would imagine the challenge behind squeezing in decades of footage was monumental. The people interviewed were all interesting, warm characters who were succinct in delivering their opinions, something I imagine I would fail to be when trying to describe and explain something I love (hence why I don't bring the subject up at school, I'd bore the kids to tears and put them off forever!!!).
I doubt there will be another episode like this but that's ok, there's more than enough footage and images of locomotives and rolling stock - real and model - online to keep me interested.
If we have gained a new member without a single mention of N gauge (not the most popular gauge), I imagine there may be a few more members of OO or O gauge forums as a result of this program. It all means more money is going into the hobby which sustains the companies which bring us the models we cherish.
Thanks for the nice welcome everyone :claphappy:
Quote from: d-a-n on January 26, 2013, 11:59:39 AMThey did well to cram as much as they did into the allotted time and struck a fine balance between the real railways, model ones and social reasons behind modelling,
Yep.I agree wih that in the audio, but I found the video somewhat manic ! and mostly not connected to the audio.
But no worries, I have now found a way to download it and can now review the cliphappy video at my leisure !
QuoteIf we have gained a new member without a single mention of N gauge (not the most popular gauge), I imagine there may be a few more members of OO or O gauge forums as a result of this program.
Ummm, well, err, At the same time as I reg. here I also reg.ed at another (general gauge) forum wot I had also been reading for a wee while,
3days on I am still waiting for it to be approved ! :(
Probably not appropriate to name it, but it purports to welcome new railway modellers, so here I am enjoying a nice welcome and interesting conversations :-) whilst over there not lot is happening !!
This forum is the best IMHO. Warm welcome, excellent advice and encouragement, and good banter too. Welcome along, and happy modelling
Quote from: d-a-n on January 26, 2013, 11:59:39 AM
Welcome RChook!
Thank you
Quote
If we have gained a new member without a single mention of N gauge (not the most popular gauge), I imagine there may be a few more members of OO or O gauge forums as a result of this program.
Well, a bit late, there is a developing story here !
I thought that going up into the attic room, where 00 could be done, was (a) a bit cold in the winter and (b) better to stay in the family rooms by the fireside and do a bit of model railway whilst /watching TV /playing audio/ engaging in normal adult behaviour/ ;) ;)
So, having looked round Carl Arendt's site I was thinking of a little expanded pizza in N.
Now SWMBO points to the end wall of one of the living rooms and says "what about over there if you move the fish tanks"
In one fell swoop releasing a 10ft wall with two legs of 4 and 6ft each ! ,,,,
(no fish were injured in this thought experiment, the tanks are currently un-occupied ! )
Quote from: RChook on February 03, 2013, 11:49:56 PM
Now SWMBO points to the end wall of one of the living rooms and says "what about over there if you move the fish tanks"
In one fell swoop releasing a 10ft wall with two legs of 4 and 6ft each ! ,,,,
(no fish were injured in this thought experiment, the tanks are currently un-occupied ! )
Result I'd say! :beers:
Paul
Quote from: BernardTPM on January 24, 2013, 10:47:26 PM
Perhaps there has been a slight shift away from what might be called 'Ladism' towards recognising that it might actually be a good thing to be creative.
Yep, it does seem that journalism is only interested in the bizarre, spectacular and extreme - it's either glorifying outrageous laddish behaviour or putting down introverted social inadequates, but nothing in between. They like to portray and promote the odd and the weird, but fail to report on the balanced and normal; there's little wrong in enjoying a few pints in the local and playing football, and being able to come home to read a book and make some models.
H.
Quote from: H on February 04, 2013, 11:21:38 AM
there's little wrong in enjoying a few pints in the local and playing football, and being able to come home to read a book and make some models.
H.
I tried playing football in my local after a few pints and was told I was being outlandishly laddish and thus barred :(
Eurostar in a tunnel through the fish tank - clearly
:angel:
:laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: Nice One EP!
Quote from: Sprintex on February 04, 2013, 04:56:51 AM
Result I'd say! :beers:
Yep, quite a surprise !
So now I need to research what sort of width of baseboard is convenient to reach over to service a model when it is up against a wall.
(mind you, 4ft - 10ft - 6ft x say 3.5ft in a U shape could house a.n.other gauge - - shhh ! :) )
Quote from: RChook on February 04, 2013, 11:09:38 PM
(mind you, 4ft - 10ft - 6ft x say 3.5ft in a U shape could house a.n.other gauge - - shhh ! :) )
:telloff:
Why settle for LESS railway just because you have more space?
Sorry but there
is only one gauge -
N ;)
Paul
:bump: On again tonight 2310 BBC4.
Thanks Caz may just get to see it if I can persuade Mrs H to drink an extra large glass of Horlicks...
If there's anyone who hasn't seen it yet, BBC Four are screening it again tonight:
http://www.radiotimes.com/episode/trrxg/the-joy-of-train-sets-the-model-railway-story (http://www.radiotimes.com/episode/trrxg/the-joy-of-train-sets-the-model-railway-story)
Quote from: Pete33 on December 16, 2013, 05:59:43 PM
If there's anyone who hasn't seen it yet, BBC Four are screening it again tonight:
http://www.radiotimes.com/episode/trrxg/the-joy-of-train-sets-the-model-railway-story (http://www.radiotimes.com/episode/trrxg/the-joy-of-train-sets-the-model-railway-story)
I would but I have to get up for work in the morning, it doesn't start till midnight :(
iPlayer?
Skyline2uk
I'm nocturnal these days -going to try and remember to catch this (off to set the youview recorder next just in case). It's not on iPlayer yet. Fingers crossed it's not another James May show.
Quote from: Lawrence on December 16, 2013, 06:34:36 PM
I would but I have to get up for work in the morning, it doesn't start till midnight :(
Ask Della to set the recorder for you :P
Quote from: RST on December 16, 2013, 07:23:01 PM
Fingers crossed it's not another James May show.
No - it's not :thumbsup:
It's the one with the Snow boy. The wanna-be history presenter who always comes across as being just a little too smug. It's still a pretty good documentary anyway.