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Title: Spelling
Post by: Caz on January 10, 2013, 06:54:15 PM
Who said spelling was important.  I couldn't believe how easy it was to read:-   :D



If you can raed this, you have a sgtrane mnid, too.
Can you raed this? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can. I cdnuolt blveiee that I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd what I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in what oerdr the ltteres in a word are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is that the frsit and last ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can still raed it whotuit a pboerlm. This is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the word as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? Yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: port perran on January 10, 2013, 07:01:18 PM
The human brain is indeed remarkable.
I could read your paragraph perfectly well even though the words are a muddle !
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: OwL on January 10, 2013, 07:05:58 PM
 I thought that some of the local lingo had finally rubbed off on you and you posted in Spanish!
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: Lawrence on January 10, 2013, 07:14:09 PM
pardon  :worried:





;D
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: longbridge on January 10, 2013, 07:24:17 PM
Its now 5.00am in Oz and I just got out of bed  :sleep: reading that just did my head in, we all make an okazional spelling mistake but not qwite as many as that  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: MikeDunn on January 10, 2013, 07:58:22 PM
Dave,

The thing is - the brain can process the word as long as all the creroct letters are there ...  Putting in dibeterale wrong letters doesn't count  :P

Mike
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: longbridge on January 10, 2013, 08:36:49 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on January 10, 2013, 07:58:22 PM
Dave,

The thing is - the brain can process the word as long as all the creroct letters are there ...  Putting in dibeterale wrong letters doesn't count  :P

Mike

  :D :D I agree Mike but I am afraid my brain wont prosess az much az it used to.

Wasn't it Adolph Hitler that wanted to make a universal language that had to be spoken by everyone in the world ?, I may be wrong but his proposed language was to be written exactly as it was spoken, non of this eight, ate, hate stuff  :confused2:
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: Sprintex on January 10, 2013, 09:45:43 PM
Not only is it possible to read it, but you can read it at the same pace as normal. Weird  :hmmm:

On a similar note, does everyone else find it just as easy to read upside-down things as right way up? When I worked in a factory years ago the bloke opposite used to read the paper during tea break. I generally avoid newspapers, but an article caught my interest and I found I could read it just as quickly from the other side of the table  :D


Paul
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: Jerry Howlett on January 12, 2013, 04:58:21 PM
At this time in the evening after a few glasses of vino bianco I SPEAK LIKE THAT !
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: moogle on January 12, 2013, 06:11:46 PM
I raed thta no probelm what-so-ever. Upsied donw? I do thta as wlel! Mabye I'm jsut werid...    :help:  :laugh3:
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: Kipper on January 12, 2013, 07:24:56 PM
Having done some proof reading, in the past, it is very easy to read a passage like the one above, and let through mistakes (although the typesetters are usually not that bad!). What is more likely to be found quite easily, is the use of "that" instead of "than" and vice versa. Also, the use of "of" instead of "have or 've", such as in "should of" instead of "should have or should've" is another one that glares out from the page. (and on forums, too!)
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: edwin_m on January 12, 2013, 08:30:46 PM
That's before we get to "it's" and "its", or "affect" and "effect". 

My personal worst gripe is "Principal" and "Principle".  The railway gets this one wrong on a routine basis in job titles and business cards, probably because it includes posts such as "Principles Tester"* and "Principal Engineer". 

*someone who tests signalling to ensure it complies with the signalling principles. 
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: Oldman on January 12, 2013, 08:34:37 PM
Smples, I jst cnt typ or spell proply. :dunce: :confused2: :help:
However SWMBO keeps the spell book next to the cauldron in the kitchen and I am NOT allowed near it.
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: Sprintex on January 13, 2013, 02:18:47 PM
Quote from: edwin_m on January 12, 2013, 08:30:46 PM
That's before we get to "it's" and "its",

On a similar note we were browsing the magazines in WHS yesterday and noticed a magazine we hadn't seen before, but for all the wrong reasons . . .


It was called simply, HOBBIE'S  :smackedface:


Paul
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: njee20 on January 13, 2013, 04:09:10 PM
Forget where I saw it, but I read another paragraph that effectively debunked that theory - it was virtually impossible to read, despite the first and last letters being the same!

It was also nothing to do with Cambridge University  apparently. Interesting none the less.

Generally on the subject it's "should of"/"could of" that really winds me up, as well as they're/their/there!
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: Agrippa on January 13, 2013, 06:28:31 PM
Why is rough (coarse ) spelt like that but ruff (16th century ) spelt like that?

ps Why is coarse spelt like that ?

Why not a golf coarse with the ball in the ruff?

Why elephant but not giraph or ruph(gamebird)  ?

finally why Arkansas not Arkansaw?

It's a phunny old gaim.
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: trainsdownunder on January 13, 2013, 10:00:09 PM
 :laughabovepost: No wonder I flunked my English exams.   :dunce:

However I did pass German, french and Spainish - Now that I find weird.  ???
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: Sprintex on January 13, 2013, 10:09:57 PM
No-one's mentioned 'bought/brought' yet  ;)

Bought, as in purchased - past tense of the word 'buy', eg. "I bought a new loco"

Brought, as in transported - past tense of the word 'bring', eg. "I brought my new loco home from the shop"

Common mistake  ;)


Paul
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: pape_timmo on January 14, 2013, 12:46:41 AM
Another common one now is people using 'to' instead of 'too'. As in "I bought one of those to!"

Cheers, Tim
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: edwin_m on January 14, 2013, 09:33:32 AM
Get round that one by just using 2. 
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: pape_timmo on January 14, 2013, 11:27:41 AM
Now that's just text speak. I used to teach the army and Air Force how to do fuel testing, and a couple of people tried to do their exams in text speak. They got them back and told to resit them.

Cheers, Timmo 😃
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: edwin_m on January 14, 2013, 12:04:57 PM
That reminds me of when I forgot to sign my expenses and got them back with a note on saying "please resign".  I didn't realise it was a sackable offence! 
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: Newportnobby on January 14, 2013, 12:10:37 PM
I think it is far too easy to judge without knowing the background. Whilst I appreciate it can be easy to mock poor spelling/grammar, and that a lot of it is down to education (in itself or the absorption of said education), we have to remember some have a disability when it comes to the written word.
Personally I feel so many people now learn the US of A way of doing things rather than English that we have become just another state of America. One in particular I hate is to the question "How are you?" the reply all too often is "I'm good, thanks" What the heck does that mean? :veryangry2:
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: Agrippa on January 14, 2013, 12:58:21 PM
We must forgive the colonials for their manner of speech,
one presumes that the reply means I'm in good health, but
I think it can also be used in offering to get someone a
drink and they already have one .

Another aspect is the double negative, eg "I ain't got no money"
which contradicts itself.
Often used by geezers like Harry Redknapp eg "We ain't got no
injuries in the squad etc." Another wrongly used word becoming
more frequently used is "plethora " meaning an excessive amount
of something you don't want or need, now used in describing a
large number or quantity.

Perhaps the forum should appoint a grammar moderator to review
postings, followed by "Could do better".
Standards of speech have declined since BBC radio announcers
were no longer required to wear dinner jackets when they were
on the air.

That's another error as radio waves don't need air to travel. :D
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: Sprintex on January 14, 2013, 01:26:13 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on January 14, 2013, 12:10:37 PM
Personally I feel so many people now learn the US of A way of doing things rather than English that we have become just another state of America. One in particular I hate is to the question "How are you?" the reply all too often is "I'm good, thanks" What the heck does that mean? :veryangry2:

Maybe they mean good  :angel: as opposed to evil  >:D ?  :D

An adopted Americanism that annoys me is to "fill out a form". Sorry, but here in the UK we fill IN forms, because we insert information IN to the form.  >:(


Paul
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: Agrippa on January 14, 2013, 02:58:09 PM
The USA is the world's largest English speaking nation and provider of most
movies, and much tv and pop music so it's inevitable that Americanisms
will enter into speech and writing in this country. We may dislike it
but it would be Canute-like to try to stop it.

Funnily enough many English phrases and words are appearing in the US
as a result of films and tv series from this country.Remember Obama's
cor blimey welcome to David Cameron last year. Like Dick van Dyke from
Mary Poppins.
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: spurno on January 14, 2013, 05:12:42 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on January 14, 2013, 12:10:37 PM
I think it is far too easy to judge without knowing the background. Whilst I appreciate it can be easy to mock poor spelling/grammar, and that a lot of it is down to education (in itself or the absorption of said education), we have to remember some have a disability when it comes to the written word.
Personally I feel so many people now learn the US of A way of doing things rather than English that we have become just another state of America. One in particular I hate is to the question "How are you?" the reply all too often is "I'm good, thanks" What the heck does that mean? :veryangry2:

I have to agree,somebody might be dyslexic and you have to think of people's feelings.typo's are something that affects us all myself included.i also hate text speak and won't use it.basically though there is no excuse for bad spelling,preview before posting or use a spell checker.
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: trainsdownunder on January 14, 2013, 11:19:58 PM
Simply answer in Australia it seems is just to shorten every word as much as possible and the add "O"

Hence StevO, bottlO, renO etc. But even I cringed at the TV last night when the broadcaster  made a reference to the new smash hit film as......Les MisO.

Still living, in a country that has news headlines refering to someone being beaten up as " a man was bashed " - it does make you wonder.
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: Agrippa on January 15, 2013, 12:09:03 AM
Hello Trainsdownunder, in the UK the O thing was usually used for
some sportsmen eg Roy Keane =- Keano ' Sir Bradley Wiggins
= Wiggo, but seems to be a bit infrequent. Anyways  I hope the bushfires
are being contained and send best wishes to all in Australia, always one of
our greatest allies.
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: jonclox on January 15, 2013, 09:25:55 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on January 14, 2013, 12:10:37 PM
I think it is far too easy to judge without knowing the background. Whilst I appreciate it can be easy to mock poor spelling/grammar, and that a lot of it is down to education (in itself or the absorption of said education), we have to remember some have a disability when it comes to the written word.

Thanks for that  :thumbsup: Ive rather sat here squirming  a bit after reading this thread . Mainly because I have problems memorising numbers and letters (car number plates/phone numbers etc) for more than a few minutes. Similar with spelling, most of the time I am ok but others I just 'blank out' a word and have problems finding an alternative.
This is all down to a mental block which gives me no problems 99.99% of the time. Was lazy,slow etc at school and during my apprenticeship?  :dunce:...no I dont think so but who am I to say :-\
Anyway its nice to see that Newport has stood up for us 'challenged ones'  :claphappy:

Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: trainsdownunder on January 15, 2013, 09:41:28 AM
My son in law is dyslexic and I understand the problem. Spell checkers are all very well but no good if you have no idea in the first place.

As for using a dictionary.. well that assumes you have some idea of what letters a word might start with.

Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: Newportnobby on January 15, 2013, 09:55:34 AM
Quote from: jonclox on January 15, 2013, 09:25:55 AM

Anyway its nice to see that Newport has stood up for us 'challenged ones'  :claphappy:

It was only by dropping a rather large clanger on this very forum that I have learned not to judge :-[
Since that episode I will not, and cannot, criticize spelling or grammar except where it is obvious someone is using a mobile phone and their thumbs are large and number ten :D
What is in my mind should not necessarily be typed :worried:
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: Agrippa on January 15, 2013, 11:13:44 AM
Remember the old tale about the foreign student here to
learn English who was looking at theatrical reviews in the
papers and read "Hamlet pronounced success!", he packed up
and went home.
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: Plainline. on January 17, 2013, 09:27:39 PM
I used to work for a sign company. We had a small sign in reception saying ****** signs. After about 10 years someone noticed that it actually read ****** sings! Which suggests the point that the brain only needs the first and last letters in the right place and reads what it expects the word to be. For the record the wrongly spelled sign was an exception, I never knew of any signs returned for incorrect spelling! :)
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: EtchedPixels on January 17, 2013, 09:32:00 PM
One of our sign companies has a cheaper service and a proof and checking service. I'm sure they do the cheap one on the basis they'll get lots of orders for corrected signs and make even more

Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: Trainfish on January 18, 2013, 02:00:09 AM
While I appreciate that dyslexia does exist I also think it's over used as an excuse. I certainly wouldn't judge someone from what they type here but a friend of mine claims dyslexia but the truth of the matter is that he doesn't actually care that he has spelled something wrong so carries on spelling it incorrectly even after being told about it. That to me is NOT dyslexia, it's laziness and a couldn't care less attitude.
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: Joe 90 on January 18, 2013, 10:30:29 AM
..........And don't get me started on the misuse of the apostrophe.................. >:( ;D
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: MikeDunn on January 18, 2013, 10:48:27 AM
I cant think of what your'e on about  ???
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: Joe 90 on January 18, 2013, 10:59:09 AM
Grrrrrrr............. ;)
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: thos on January 18, 2013, 01:18:46 PM
Which reminds me of the classic:


Question:  What English word with five letters is pronounced 'fish'




Answer:  Ghoti.









gh, pronounced /f/ as in tough /tʌf/;
o, pronounced /ɪ/ as in women /ˈwɪmɪn/; and
ti, pronounced /ʃ/ as in nation /ˈneɪʃən/.


It could also be silent:
gh as in though (/ðoʊ/) ;
o as in people (/'pi pl/) ;
t as in ballet (/'bæleɪ/) ;
i as in business (/'bɪznəs/)

I also refer those who do not know it to 'The Chaos' by Gerard Nolst Terenité http://www.spellingsociety.org/journals/j17/caos.php (http://www.spellingsociety.org/journals/j17/caos.php)
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: moogle on January 18, 2013, 02:36:31 PM
Quote from: Joe 90 on January 18, 2013, 10:30:29 AM
..........And don't get me started on the misuse of the apostrophe.................. >:( ;D

Wasn't that the Greek cafe down the high street?  ;)
Title: Re: Spelling
Post by: trainsdownunder on January 19, 2013, 01:08:48 AM
Quote from: moogle on January 18, 2013, 02:36:31 PM

Wasn't that the Greek cafe down the high street?  ;)

:laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: