Ever since I saw the chromatic blue Hymek D7036 on @Chris Morris (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3123) 'Dawlish Warren' with white window surrounds and SYP, an itch for a rake of blue stock has required scratching. This has resulted in me ordering one from Osborns and to go with it I'm sourcing:-
Dapol 2F-014-003 Fruit D ex forum member ohlavache
Dapol 2F-047-007 CCT ex forum member ohlavache
Dapol 2F-047-012 CCT ex Rails of Sheffield
Dapol 2F-014-012 Fruit D ex Rails of Sheffield
Farish 374-890 50ft Stanier Full Brake ex Kernow
Farish 374-136 GUV ex Chelmsford Models
Farish 374-045 (pre ordered with Rails) MK1 BG Newspapers
Farish 374-587 (pre ordered with Rails) Hawksworth Full Brake
Farish 374-039A (in my stock and weathered by mk1gtstu) MK1 BG Blue/Grey
All are destined to be sent to mk1gtstu for weathering apart from the loco. I couldn't bring myself to do that :no:
Not only that, but @Bob G (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1517) sent me this link to D7036 at Oxford!! Serendipity or what?!
https://www.rail-online.co.uk/p870200504/h373CA35A#h373ca35a (https://www.rail-online.co.uk/p870200504/h373CA35A#h373ca35a)
So -it's out in the open and I fully lay the blame at Chris's door.
I do assure you, though, this is a 'one off' just like my Poppylino, class 800 and Dapol HST125 so please don't think I've lost it completely. :laugh3: :laugh3:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/374-136-Graham-Farish-N-Gauge-BR-Mk1-GUV-General-Utility-Van-BR-Blue-/203775750903?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/374-136-Graham-Farish-N-Gauge-BR-Mk1-GUV-General-Utility-Van-BR-Blue-/203775750903?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0)
I know its second choice Mick @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) but............
Welcome to the dark side of British Rail Blue Mick! :D
If you want the Diesel weathered to match the rest of the train I can do that for you, I have been known to have done a few in the past... ;D
Cheers, Stu
Quote from: exmouthcraig on December 30, 2021, 04:24:21 PM
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/374-136-Graham-Farish-N-Gauge-BR-Mk1-GUV-General-Utility-Van-BR-Blue-/203775750903?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/374-136-Graham-Farish-N-Gauge-BR-Mk1-GUV-General-Utility-Van-BR-Blue-/203775750903?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0)
I know its second choice Mick @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) but............
@exmouthcraig (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5099) Many thanks for that, Craig. I had seen it but thought I'd give any forum member first crack at supply.
Quote from: mk1gtstu on December 30, 2021, 04:34:47 PM
If you want the Diesel weathered to match the rest of the train I can do that for you, I have been known to have done a few in the past... ;D
And I know you'd do a great job of it, Stu, but I just couldn't do that to such a glorious livery. :stop:
Mick. Go for it. Re 374132 and 136 have you tried rails ? John dutfield? Will let you know if I see any.
Quote from: crewearpley40 on December 30, 2021, 04:47:32 PM
Mick. Go for it. Re 374132 and 136 have you tried rails ? John dutfield? Will let you know if I see any.
Tried virtually everywhere, Chris. As a fall back might have to revert to 374-125 (125A or 125B) if there's no response but ad only placed today.
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 30, 2021, 04:19:04 PMplease don't think I've lost it completely. :laugh3: :laugh3:
What is this "it" you claim to be in possession of? :hmmm: ???
What's the difference with those GUV's Mick? I'm guessing the running numbers?
Cheers, Stu
Quote from: railsquid on December 30, 2021, 04:55:59 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 30, 2021, 04:19:04 PMplease don't think I've lost it completely. :laugh3: :laugh3:
What is this "it" you claim to be in possession of? :hmmm: ???
His marble ?
Quote from: mk1gtstu on December 30, 2021, 04:57:22 PM
What's the difference with those GUV's Mick? I'm guessing the running numbers?
It's not that, Stu. 374-132 and 136 are later models and are much more detailed, especially the underframe. See......
http://ngauge.org.uk/bac_pass_non.php (http://ngauge.org.uk/bac_pass_non.php)
Quote from: joe cassidy on December 30, 2021, 05:01:32 PM
Quote from: railsquid on December 30, 2021, 04:55:59 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 30, 2021, 04:19:04 PMplease don't think I've lost it completely. :laugh3: :laugh3:
What is this "it" you claim to be in possession of? :hmmm: ???
His marble ?
Hey Joe,
where you going with that gun in your hand. I'll have you know I have two marbles and keep them in a bag that badly needs ironing..
Quote from: mk1gtstu on December 30, 2021, 04:57:22 PM
What's the difference with those GUV's Mick? I'm guessing the running numbers?
Cheers, Stu
correct Stu. I have the running numbers if needed
It's not that, Stu. 374-132 and 136 are later models and are much more detailed, especially the underframe. See......
Ah yes, I have a small fleet of those, they are the better detailed ones
Cheers, Stu
Quote from: mk1gtstu on December 30, 2021, 05:10:44 PM
It's not that, Stu. 374-132 and 136 are later models and are much more detailed, especially the underframe. See......
Ah yes, I have a small fleet of those, they are the better detailed ones
Cheers, Stu
Got a spare one? ;) :D
Not sure this number on your post is correct either Mick?
Farish 374-690 CCT
I googled it & it comes up as a Farish MK2F Coach? :hmmm:
Cheers, Stu
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 30, 2021, 05:12:47 PM
Quote from: mk1gtstu on December 30, 2021, 05:10:44 PM
It's not that, Stu. 374-132 and 136 are later models and are much more detailed, especially the underframe. See......
Ah yes, I have a small fleet of those, they are the better detailed ones
Cheers, Stu
Got a spare one? ;) :D
Possibly.... I'll have to check to see how many I have/need.....they are all weathered ones I've done though....
Cheers, Stu
Quote from: mk1gtstu on December 30, 2021, 05:13:43 PM
Not sure this number on your post is correct either Mick?
Farish 374-690 CCT
I googled it & it comes up as a Farish MK2F Coach? :hmmm:
Cheers, Stu
This may be the one you were thinking of?
https://rainbowrailways.co.uk/product/graham-farish-374-640-br-mk1-cct-covered-carriage-truck-br-blue-n-gauge/
I have messaged Ken at John Dutfield to see his stock Mick on 374132 and 236
136 as I'm after one . Will let you know any outcome via pm. Chris. Please there are a couple in maroon stocked if interested
You're quite right, Stu. It should read 374-640 and I've corrected it now. Maybe Joe is right and I have lost a marble :worried:
Quote from: mk1gtstu on December 30, 2021, 05:15:22 PM
Possibly.... I'll have to check to see how many I have/need.....they are all weathered ones I've done though....
As if I'd want a clean one ;) Some of the list in my OP are factory weathered but they still need your 'treatment'.
I hate to say this Mick @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) but in 1969 she would probably be hauling a mix of maroon and blue parcels stock.
You will have to go all the way to the dark side (1971, I mean) to justify a full rake of BR blue >:D
IIRC some of these chromatic ones were withdrawn without going full blue/yellow dip so you can carry on and ignore me just like usual :)
Bob
One CCT in stock here Mick if any use?
https://rainbowrailways.co.uk/product/graham-farish-374-640-br-mk1-cct-covered-carriage-truck-br-blue-n-gauge/
@crewearpley40 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3894) Only blue, Chris. This is a one off rake. I already have maroon and green versions.
Quote from: Bob G on December 30, 2021, 05:20:43 PM
I hate to say this Mick @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) but in 1969 she would probably be hauling a mix of maroon and blue parcels stock.
You will have to go all the way to the dark side (1971, I mean) to justify a full rake of BR blue >:D
IIRC some of these chromatic ones were withdrawn without going full blue/yellow dip so you can carry on and ignore me just like usual :)
Bob
Who said that? ??? :P
Quote from: mk1gtstu on December 30, 2021, 05:24:27 PM
One CCT in stock here Mick if any use?
https://rainbowrailways.co.uk/product/graham-farish-374-640-br-mk1-cct-covered-carriage-truck-br-blue-n-gauge/
Thanks, Stu. I'll hold that in reserve as I'm waiting on @osborns (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1063) reply about 3 items and the loco will be coming from them
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 30, 2021, 05:27:12 PM
Quote from: mk1gtstu on December 30, 2021, 05:24:27 PM
One CCT in stock here Mick if any use?
https://rainbowrailways.co.uk/product/graham-farish-374-640-br-mk1-cct-covered-carriage-truck-br-blue-n-gauge/ (https://rainbowrailways.co.uk/product/graham-farish-374-640-br-mk1-cct-covered-carriage-truck-br-blue-n-gauge/)
Thanks, Stu. I'll hold that in reserve as I'm waiting on @osborns (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1063) reply about 3 items and the loco will be coming from them
Ok, same place also has one of these...
https://rainbowrailways.co.uk/product/graham-farish-374-632a-sr-bogie-b-luggage-van-br-blue-n-gauge/ (https://rainbowrailways.co.uk/product/graham-farish-374-632a-sr-bogie-b-luggage-van-br-blue-n-gauge/)
OK mick. Will be happy to keep an eye out.
Thanks again, Stu. Both bookmarked in case.....................
This was my parcels train when it arrived; it has now been to the weathering shop.
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/117/3123-301221175307.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=117860)
I can see why there's a shortage of GUVs now!
It's a fair cop guv.
Have you ever thought about a clayliner train? It could be seen anywhere between Cornwall and Stoke on Trent and with quite a variety of locos.
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/117/3123-301221180343.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=117861)
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/117/3123-301221180524.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=117862)
Found another photo
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/117/3123-301221181909.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=117863)
And of course it needs a friend to play with
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/117/3123-301221182100.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=117864)
:stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: :telloff:
I have 3 green Hymeks already (1 is a dummy one for double heading)
No china clay for me, sorry. I have more than enough wagons for other rakes :-[
Osborns have confirmed they have the 374-640 and 374-632A but not the 374-890 so I've sourced that with Kernow.
I have to say Osborns have been more than helpful in me putting this train together :thankyousign:
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 30, 2021, 06:26:17 PM
:stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: :telloff:
I have 3 green Hymeks already (1 is a dummy one for double heading)
No china clay for me, sorry. I have more than enough wagons for other rakes :-[
Oh no, i'm going to have to get myself another green Hymek to keep up with you!
First item to arrive is the ex Kernow Farish 374-890 50FT ex LMS Full brake weathered by the factory. As I said, all rolling stock will end up getting the 'treatment' from @mk1gtstu (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2084)
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/118/264-050122132754-118042236.jpeg)
2 of the 6 parcels I'm waiting on arrived today. One was some dowels and a drill bit from Station Baseboards such that I can progress the layout rebuild, but the other was more to this thread subject. A Farish 374-136 blue GUV (ta muchly to Chris @crewearpley40 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3894) for sourcing one ex Chelmsford Models)
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/118/264-100122144245-118258774.jpeg)
Ken Wilkinson at John dutfield kindly had it in stock. I have one too
So the odd blue thingy is allowed in the period of our layouts, then. I usually avoid anything blue!
With the possible exception of the odd movie :D
Quote from: Bealman on January 11, 2022, 12:25:57 AM
So the odd blue thingy is allowed in the period of our layouts, then. I usually avoid anything blue!
@Bealman (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255) No, George. The only blue thing allowed in our era is the Blue Pullman. I am just having a mental aberration and am creating one 'blue train' just 'cos I like the chromatic blue Hymek and thought a rake of blue parcels stock would look good behind it.
Same reason I bought the Kato IET class 800 and am buying a class 28 + a few conflat-Ps, but they're also to try to keep Kato and Rapido making items for UK modellers.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Is mick trying to create a train like this https://images (https://images). One https://www.flickr.com/photos/david_christie/6219847051 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/david_christie/6219847051) or https://www.flickr.com/photos/goremirebob/9313209297 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/goremirebob/9313209297) ???
The first one I can already do. The second is more like it but not a full custard dipped Hymek :no: :sick:
I was looking at the assortment of vans. Being honest the green liveried Hymek would suit your layout.
Quote from: crewearpley40 on January 11, 2022, 09:40:16 AM
Being honest the green liveried Hymek would suit your layout.
I already have 3 green Hymeks for the layout (2 powered, one dummy)
I think you're missing the point of this one off exercise, Chris
Look forward to seeing the chromatic blue loco haul her parcels train.
A couple of arrivals from Rails to augment the ones on their way from France from member ohlavache.....
Dapol 2F-047-012 CCT and Dapol 2F-014-012 Fruit D
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/118/264-120122125851-1183251404.jpeg)
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/118/264-120122125850-1183251812.jpeg)
I hope the wagons from France will soon arrive. ;)
@ohlavache (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2397)
Your parcel from France arrived today (quicker than post within the UK) and all is well with the items. No pics as they are the same as the ones from Rails I posted yesterday apart from different running numbers but just to show I have them................. :)
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/118/264-130122152053-1183811761.jpeg)
News from Osborns, too. Michael called me to say they had received the Hymek from Dapol so that and the 2 Farish items 374-640 and 374-632A will be in the post today. I appreciate some have had difficulties with Osborns but they have been extremely helpful to me and any delay with the Hymek has not been of their making.
That just leaves the 2 Farish items on pre order with Rails and Lord only knows when they'll be available, probably not even Farish themselves ::)
I'm also awaiting 374045. Anyway look forward to seeing the rake run
Enjoy the wagons ! :D
As promised by Osborns their parcel arrived today with 2 coaches and the Hymek.
Farish CCT 374-640 factory weathered followed by Farish Bogie B NFV 374-632A factory weathered
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/118/264-140122192308-1184322132.jpeg)
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/118/264-140122192308-118432540.jpeg)
And, of course, the little beauty that kickstarted the whole project thanks to @Chris Morris (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3123)
Dapol 2D-018-010 chromatic blue Hymek D7036 with SYP
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/118/264-140122192255-1184151966.jpeg)
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/118/264-140122192255-1184151645.jpeg)
The loco will be lightly oiled and then tested on my running in oval tomorrow and that wraps up what is available until Farish release the 374-045 and 374-587.
Thanks for reading this aberration from my usual transition era modelling
Mick one other van which will suit Peco NR9B / dapol 2F019003 if interested. The model centre may have in stock. Looking good all those items post person is delivering.
Quote from: crewearpley40 on January 14, 2022, 08:01:51 PM
Mick one other van which will suit Peco NR9B / dapol 2F019003 if interested.
Thanks but I'm not keen on the light blue rather than the darker shade of BR blue
The dapol van would look good. I have e mailed hattons re availability though its a rarity
Somewhat disappointing morning on 2 counts.
1. The Hymek is just as, if not more, noisy as my other Dapol locos. I swear in one direction it's noisier than my vacuum cleaner! It was given a light oiling as per the instructions. The bogies are such a tight fit I'm scared to use more force to get at the bushes. If I was going to run it more often than my usual era stuff it would be going back to Osborns, but the occasional outing is all it will see.
2. My Farish 374-890 Stanier Full Brake won't traverse 282mm curves without derailing. It seems something is preventing the bogies from swivelling enough, so that will need some investigation.
Here's a (poor) vid owing to no focus tracker on my camera and lighting unfit for filming in my kitchen.....
(https://live.staticflickr.com/31337/51820719787_e96ae268f2_m.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mXdJzZ)The Blue Train (https://flic.kr/p/2mXdJzZ) by Mick Hollyoake (https://www.flickr.com/photos/182878845@N04/), on Flickr
Sorry to hear of the issues mick. Maybe see how the 374890 runs on your main layout. Hopefully somebody could guide you in the train surgery on the Hymek and indeed the van. May just be the pin in the bogie if there is one or a gentle wiggle.
Stiff bogies suggest that the metal pickups that conduct the power to the motor are bent and/or fouling the bogie wipers.
Hymek bogies are a simple pull out and should be no problem at all to remove :D
Then you can test the free running gears at the same time.
You shouldn't tolerate tight bogies Mick.
Bob
Quote from: Newportnobby on January 15, 2022, 11:54:34 AM
2. My Farish 374-890 Stanier Full Brake won't traverse 282mm curves without derailing. It seems something is preventing the bogies from swivelling enough, so that will need some investigation.
Assuming you've checked that the wheelsets are in correctly and rotate freely, the next thing to look at with the Staniers is whether the coupling mounting moves freely to both sides and self centers when uncoupled.
It would appear this coach is one with the coupling socket mounted on the body, not the bogie.
This restricts the movement of the bogie. I have tried free wheeling it on my main layout's 304.8mm curves and it sails round with no issues.
If mine is representative of the bulk I am surprised Farish have produced a small length of coach which will not like 1st radius curves one bit.
Quote from: Newportnobby on January 15, 2022, 04:33:27 PM
It would appear this coach is one with the coupling socket mounted on the body, not the bogie.
This restricts the movement of the bogie. I have tried free wheeling it on my main layout's 304.8mm curves and it sails round with no issues.
If mine is representative of the bulk I am surprised Farish have produced a small length of coach which will not like 1st radius curves one bit.
As per above Mick, if the coupling mount is articulating correctly, the coach will go round a 9in curve (Peco R1 Set track)...
The mounting should move side to side allowing full free movement of the bogie... (and spring back to centre if you let go)
The Hymek is heading back to Osborns for replacement (they've sent me a returns label)
It's had a couple of hours running in each way and not improved, and I'm not prepared to damage it by excessive heaving at the bogies to remove them.
Probably the best thing to do with a new loco Mick.
Agree with Bob. Let's hope Maurice and Michael can sort you a new loco soon.look forward to seeing the train run.
Replacement Hymek arrived today and all is well with the world :)
Motto - don't accept a sub-standard new loco thinking it might improve. Just send it packing!
Farish 374-045 arrived ½ an hour ago...............
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/119/264-180222113838-1196961958.jpeg)
Lovely model but would have been £40 if not for some Xmas vouchers :o
Just the 374-587 Hawksworth FB to come but heaven only knows when that will be.
@mk1gtstu (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2084) I'll get the 9 items I have packed and sent, Stu.
Look forward to seeing the rake run mick. I have a couple myself.
I got one too. Lovely subtle weathering.
Something I've noticed on my two is that the weathering is subtly different between them, especially noticeable on the roofs. I'm actually quite happy about that! I may, though, apply some frame dirt to the bogies - I'm not too keen on the light grey underframe weathering that Farish tend to apply. Very pleased to have finally received them.
Quote from: Newportnobby on February 18, 2022, 11:43:59 AM
Farish 374-045 arrived ½ an hour ago...............
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/119/264-180222113838-1196961958.jpeg)
Lovely model but would have been £40 if not for some Xmas vouchers :o
Just the 374-587 Hawksworth FB to come but heaven only knows when that will be.
@mk1gtstu (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2084) I'll get the 9 items I have packed and sent, Stu.
Ok, no worries Mick @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) :thumbsup:
Cheers, Stu
Blue parcels vehicles returned from Stu's workbench today and a super job he's made of them too.
Compare with the 'before' shots earlier in the thread (pics courtesy of mk1gtstu).....
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/120/264-020322210626-1201232474.jpeg)
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/120/264-020322210627-120147985.jpeg)
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/120/264-020322210627-1201472244.jpeg)
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/120/264-020322210628-1201491635.jpeg)
The work put in by stu is stunning.