Just in case you think Japan is all about reasonably priced and reliable N-gauge, ninjas, giant anime robots and that kind of thing, it also features the occasional earthquake, such as the one the other week just after 11pm which had me hanging on to the shelving units with the trains on it, and as Youtube kindly popped up some random videos of the event, I thought I'd share them with you.
This is NHK, the BBC of Japan, from 11:08:
Just some blah blah entertainment program, interrupted by the earthquake alert, which is a sound you really don't wan't to hear, especially when it's followed by a second alert expanding the scope of the first (the red X is the likely epicentre, and the yellow regions are those at risk of severe shaking).
By 11:09 they have the duty news broadcaster on, by 11:10 the local intensity data (the numbers in the square boxes); 7 is the max, anything from 5 upwards will cause damage of some sort ranging from things falling off shelves to bits of the landscape falling down. Though with this kind of quake out to sea, not so much buildings. At 11:12 the epicentre and approximate magnitude (7.1, later revised to 7.3) are confirmed, and the tsunami all-clear is announced (there are sensors on the sea bed). We also see the emergence of the blue border, which is used during natural disaster events to display emergency information (fun fact: if there are simultaneous natural disaster events, such as an earthquake during a typhoon, we get a blue border within a blue border). There is also a black border for civil defence emergencies, fortunately I've only see that once, when Rocketman Kim decided to crash a missile into the Pacific to the east of Japan.
At the same time the TV is broadcasting alerts, trains will be coming to a automatic emergency stop, and all the mobile phones in the yellow areas will be also be emitting an alert, which was presumably inspired by the sound of nails scratching across a blackboard; here's someone driving along in their car when it goes off:
Various random scenes of shake, rattle and roll:
Finally, some cats:
(and note that location was only 5 on the intensity scale)
Thanks for that insight.
Hope you and your family are fine.
Best from earthquake-safe Potsdam
Michael
Thank you. Interesting to compare and contrast the feline reactions.
Best wishes.
John
How absolutely terrifying, especially looking at those overhead motorways (which presumably are constructed with the best anti-quake measures the Japanese can contrive).
Interesting to note some drivers stop, and some carry on - the main danger of the latter I suppose is driving into a gap which has opened up.
Thanks for an intriguing post.
Yoinks!
I've had a small, very small, experience of something similar. We live on a ridge outside the village. Some years ago I was up late, watching something on the box about 1am ish. Suddenly, a noise like a large empty articulated tipper lorry bouncing at speed down a bumpy track, I swear I thought a truck was about to come through the house. Then it felt like the house was shaken like a snow globe. It lasted no more than seven or eight seconds. Not pleasant.
It was the noise that freaked me out, I wouldn't have expected the noise.
Oh, and the wife bellowing down the stairs, "I don't know what you're doing, but pack it in I'm trying to sleep."
::)
Hope you're all safe and well down there. Is it a regular occurrence?
When I was in Taiwan, about twelve years ago, the daily earthquake appeared on the weather forecast.
Incidentally they have the longest railway viaduct in the world, think it's about 97 miles long. It's on the high speed line between Taipei and Kaoshung.
Martin
Quote from: OffshoreAlan on February 26, 2021, 10:20:06 PM
How absolutely terrifying, especially looking at those overhead motorways (which presumably are constructed with the best anti-quake measures the Japanese can contrive).
They weren't originally, then the Kobe quake happened in 1995, and an awful lot of strengthening work has been carried out since.
Quote from: Safety Engineer on February 26, 2021, 11:21:19 PM
When I was in Taiwan, about twelve years ago, the daily earthquake appeared on the weather forecast.
Incidentally they have the longest railway viaduct in the world, think it's about 97 miles long. It's on the high speed line between Taipei and Kaoshung.
Same applies the railway lines, particularly the Shinkansen lines, which are often built on concrete viaducts. This quake knocked out a section of the northern Shinkansen line (mainly catenary masts dislodged); that section apparently had not yet been upgraded. It was reopened in about 11 days.
Quote from: emjaybee on February 26, 2021, 10:31:49 PM
Yoinks!
I've had a small, very small, experience of something similar. We live on a ridge outside the village. Some years ago I was up late, watching something on the box about 1am ish. Suddenly, a noise like a large empty articulated tipper lorry bouncing at speed down a bumpy track, I swear I thought a truck was about to come through the house. Then it felt like the house was shaken like a snow globe. It lasted no more than seven or eight seconds. Not pleasant.
It was the noise that freaked me out, I wouldn't have expected the noise.
Oh, and the wife bellowing down the stairs, "I don't know what you're doing, but pack it in I'm trying to sleep."
::)
Hope you're all safe and well down there. Is it a regular occurrence?
Earthquakes pretty much daily in some part of Japan; one of this extent thankfully less so, personally it's the strongest I've experienced since the 2011 one.
It's interesting people in the UK report they can hear earthquakes; here any noise is generated by things shaking, It does feel like the house is suddenly rolling along logs at increasing speed (unless the epicentre is very close, in which case it feels like a giant hammer hit the house from below).
Yes, that's very interesting. Just after I moved into Chez Bealman back in 1981, I was woken up in the night by what seemed like a train barrelling down on the house. This was followed by a slight shudder.
It turned out the cause was a slip in a local fault line in the escarpment behind me.
When the Newcastle earthquake occurred in 1989 (or around that time), I was packing the dishwasher when things started rattling in there. To this day, I swear that the whole floor of the kitchen and family room were rippling up and down like ocean waves. However, the only noise was things rattling, no rumbles.
We'd just had extensions put on, and my first thought was that something was wrong there. No, it was an earthquake. Buildings in Newcastle were damaged and people were killed.
Bealette 3 experienced an earthquake while she was in Osaka, and also reports no noise, just rattle and roll.
FYI:
In countries subject to earthquakes, railways have operating rules to cover these events. I worked on the high speed metro in Taiwan linking the international airport to the capital Taipei. There were seismic sensors linked in to the interlockings, which in the event of an earthquake placed signals at Red and stopped trains until the tracks were inspected and deemed safe. There was a staged response depending on the severity of the event, presume other lines had similar arrangements.
(In the US, BNSF stop all trains within a 100 mile radius of an earthquake epicentre until the tracks and infrastructure are inspected).
Martin
(Safety Engineer)
We get the odd quake in the Midlands, mainly due to old mine workings collapsing. I was in my office on the 3rd floor when things started wobbling. On another occasion we thought it was birds fighting on our flat roof, but the evening news told a different story.
When I lived in Telford we had an earthquake late at night. First I knew was a noise like rolling thunder, a sort of brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr then the house shook for a few seconds, a couple of pics fell off the wall and then all was quiet again. I believe the epicentre had been in Dudley.
Not something I want to experience again :no:
Quote from: Newportnobby on February 27, 2021, 10:29:05 AM
When I lived in Telford we had an earthquake late at night. First I knew was a noise like rolling thunder, a sort of brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr then the house shook for a few seconds, a couple of pics fell off the wall and then all was quiet again. I believe the epicentre had been in Dudley.
Not something I want to experience again :no:
Was that early 2000s? I remember a particularly sphincter-challenging one from around then that had me out of bed and checking the roof. SWMBO slept right through it ::)
Quote from: tutenkhamunsleeping on February 27, 2021, 11:24:08 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on February 27, 2021, 10:29:05 AM
When I lived in Telford we had an earthquake late at night. First I knew was a noise like rolling thunder, a sort of brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr then the house shook for a few seconds, a couple of pics fell off the wall and then all was quiet again. I believe the epicentre had been in Dudley.
Not something I want to experience again :no:
Was that early 2000s? I remember a particularly sphincter-challenging one from around then that had me out of bed and checking the roof. SWMBO slept right through it ::)
It was indeed, Steve.
I was in a meeting in Lagos, Nigeria, when we heard a loud bang, followed by the room shaking, pictures falling off the wall, etc.
We thought we were experiencing Nigeria's first ever earthquake but it was just a ship exploding close to the shore.
Quote from: Newportnobby on February 27, 2021, 11:30:35 AM
It was indeed, Steve.
It's been a lot quieter since you left :D
Around 1996 my now ex-girlfriend said she felt the earth move 1 night. As I was working abroad at the time and there hadn't been any reports of earthquakes at home either I told her it was probably best that she moved out with him :thumbsup:
Thanks for those (I think...!)
I don't understand why things aren't more firmly fixed - for instance, why aren't shelves screwed to the walls? All right, stuff will still fall off, but at least the whole thing won't fall down. And as for reptiles and water tanks. Eeeeeek! :goggleeyes: :o
There is actually a fault line just at the back of our house, but I don't think it has moved much in the last 100 million years...
Cheers,
Chris
Quote from: Papyrus on February 27, 2021, 03:45:54 PM
Thanks for those (I think...!)
I don't understand why things aren't more firmly fixed - for instance, why aren't shelves screwed to the walls? All right, stuff will still fall off, but at least the whole thing won't fall down. And as for reptiles and water tanks. Eeeeeek! :goggleeyes: :o
There is actually a fault line just at the back of our house, but I don't think it has moved much in the last 100 million years...
Cheers,
Chris
There's a fault at our house too...
...apparently it's always mine.
:(
I have experienced one earthquake in my life and yeah rather not have a repeat!
I was on some post exercise down time in San Francisco which revolved around sampling much of the night culture..... but less about that, I was up after and eventful night and had gone to get a morning coffee to wake myself from the dead and while sat outside the cafe an experience I had never felt in my life hit me (no not booze related :P ) and it was an earthquake in my now complete bewildered and befuddled state one of the locals dragged me into a doorway.
After it all calmed down the local decided I needed telling off and all I could ask was what the "F*** was that?" on hearing my confused comment he informed me it was an earthquake, but just a small one, my response been "Could have f***ing fooled me!" since then I have managed to avoid earthquake areas I generally prefer my ground more settled and less shaky! :D
Enjoying these tales of these cute little UK earthquakes :P
I was on the ground floor at school around 1990 when one apparently occurred, but didn't feel anything.
Quote from: Papyrus on February 27, 2021, 03:45:54 PM
Thanks for those (I think...!)
I don't understand why things aren't more firmly fixed - for instance, why aren't shelves screwed to the walls? All right, stuff will still fall off, but at least the whole thing won't fall down. And as for reptiles and water tanks. Eeeeeek! :goggleeyes: :o
I imagine a lot of what you saw will be in rented accommodation, which pretty much rules out making holes of any kind in the walls.
Which reminds me, the scenes of devastation which greeted me when arriving back at my apartment of the time after the 2011 quake:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/7905/40362081283_05cc6ce100_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24uEdza)
P1040859 (https://flic.kr/p/24uEdza) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr(https://live.staticflickr.com/7917/32385283607_6d767fc27d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RkM3wK)
P1040860 (https://flic.kr/p/RkM3wK) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on FlickrThe only actual damage was to a cheap bowl, which somehow leapt out of the sink onto the floor.
I did have a wall full of free-standing IKEA "Ivar" shelving there as well, I was fully expecting to find it fallen over, but it was still standing; you could tell which direction the earthquake was coming from by the way the books on them had shifted about.
Was a long day, after walking home 3+ hours from the office and tidying up the mess, went back out to pick up Mrs. Raildsquid (she wasn't Mrs then though) from her trek across Tokyo, which involved another long walk, and we spent a rather sleepless night being woken up by earthquake alerts and the constant swaying of the building, which felt like being on a ship. Took about a month for the aftershocks to die away, and let's not even mention the nukes.
The current Chez Railsquid was selected in part for the location's general stability and excellent drainage (something else very important in Japan because of rain, and also because you don't want to find yourself living with ground liquefication).
Animation of all quakes in Japan since March 11th, 2011: https://www.japanquakemap.com/ (https://www.japanquakemap.com/)
I live in SW Germany in a so-called Zone 3 risk area - that means that houses etc. have to be built to withstand earthquakes - although we have had nothing like to ones in Japan since 1356, when Basel was destroyed (6.6 on the Richter scale). The strongest I've been through was just over 4 - all the glasses in the china cabinet shook - but by the time I started thinking about sheltering under the door frame, it was over. Most of those I have experienced were tremors slightly over 3, sometimes there is just a loud bang and a jolt. Anything under 3 you don't really notice.
Usually the ones you notice are few and far between, but back in 2006 we were having one every week. This was the result of a geothermal project (with fracking) just over the border in Basel - it was quickly stopped. Over the last couple of years they have been trying the same idea in Strasbourg, with the same result. This was stopped last December.
Peter
Quote from: railsquid on February 26, 2021, 04:49:50 PM
This is NHK, the BBC of Japan, from 11:08:
Just some blah blah entertainment program, interrupted by the earthquake alert, which is a sound you really don't wan't to hear, especially when it's followed by a second alert expanding the scope of the first (the red X is the likely epicentre, and the yellow regions are those at risk of severe shaking).
Something I learnt today is that the second alert expanding the potentially affected area is a relatively new thing. The alert system was originally based on extrapolating from the initial data generated by sensors close to the epicenter when an earthquake happens, with the big quake in 2011 that resulted in an alert being generated for the initially affected areas in northeast Japan, but not for the surrounding areas such as Tokyo, which were also quite badly shaken. Apparently the improved system extrapolates data as the quake passes throught the initially affected areas to predict whether it will affect a wider region, which seems to have worked quite well this time.
Bonus video - same as the above in 2011, complete with tsunami alert about 3 minutes in:
This evening, Spongebob was rudely interrupted by an M7.2 earthquake alert and subsequent tsunami warning.
(https://japan-train-blog.infogogo.com/static/misc/earthquake-2021-03-20_01.jpg)
Not quite as intense in Tokyo as the one a few weeks back.
When my wife and I visited Colombia in 2008 to visit my brother, we experienced a 4.3 earthquake whilst staying at his backpacker's hostel. It was the weirdest sensation I have ever experienced, but I couldn't resist asking the Missus if the earth moved for her too!
I also got bitten by two dogs whilst there, one of which was called 'Godzilla', so I couldn't help pondering the fact that when I was posted for a brief work stint in Tokyo a couple of years later I was probably the only person in the city who could genuinely say they survived a Godzilla attack!
Quote from: JonHarbour on March 20, 2021, 11:16:40 AM
When my wife and I visited Colombia in 2008 to visit my brother, we experienced a 4.3 earthquake whilst staying at his backpacker's hostel. It was the weirdest sensation I have ever experienced, but I couldn't resist asking the Missus if the earth moved for her too!
The fun thing is (having experienced hundreds of the things) is that there are many different kinds of earthquake, ranging from the "short sharp shock" where the epicentre is in the same general postcode district and it feels like a giant hammer is hitting the underside of the house, to a very slow sideways wave motion (I was sitting at home once and felt a very slight slow shaking, and thought to myself "Squiddy, that's a biiiiig earthquake a looooong way away" and looked it up and it was an M8-something up near the Kamchatka Peninsula).
To quote myself from another thread:
Quote from: railsquid on June 30, 2019, 03:50:58 AM(very important in Japan as there is lots of steep scenery engaged in an aeon-spanning attempt to slide inexorably down the gravity well)
Here's some scenery doing just that earlier today:
Yes, just saw the tail end of that on the news this evening.
Horrendous! Is the there a deaths and casualties announcement?
I could see people in the path of it! Awful!
Fair play to the firemen, they can certainly run when they need to :thumbsup:
The telegraph pole looked a little overscale though :doh:
Quote from: Bealman on July 03, 2021, 10:43:34 AM
Yes, just saw the tail end of that on the news this evening.
Horrendous! Is the there a deaths and casualties announcement?
About 20 people thought to be missing.
This is why Chez Railsquid is on nice flat well-drained ground...
That's one helluva landslide!! :o
Terrible! The driver of the little white car had a lucky escape!
Where is that, Ian?
Atami, for your reference on the coast southwest of Hakone.
Report in English: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/03/landslide-hits-popular-resort-town-in-japan-leaving-more-than-a-dozen-people-missing (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/03/landslide-hits-popular-resort-town-in-japan-leaving-more-than-a-dozen-people-missing)
Meanwhile, as Sunday morning viewing, NHK (the license-funded national broadcaster) is entertaining us with a programme discussing the thorny issue of returning home after a major earthquake in an urban area, which can cause problems as people will congregate at neuralgic points, causing all kinds of issues such as crowd crushes. Here a demonstration of what might happen on a crowded pedestrian bridge if one person panics:
(https://japan-train-blog.infogogo.com/static/misc/kitaku-konnan.jpg)
Photos I took going home after the big earthquake in 2011, when the trains had stopped running (and most didn't start up until the next day):
(https://live.staticflickr.com/7837/47327195801_b23290ebbb_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2f79fsv)
P1040837 (https://flic.kr/p/2f79fsv) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/7822/40362078223_bd32b8d604_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24uEcEp)
P1040848 (https://flic.kr/p/24uEcEp) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/7898/46604179714_0dc8482f58_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2e1fAXU)
P1040847 (https://flic.kr/p/2e1fAXU) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/7850/32385283007_d8a223d402_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RkM3mp)
P1040856 (https://flic.kr/p/RkM3mp) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Eeek. :worried:
On the plus side, all this water means wildfires are not a major problem (and when they are, it's usually at the tail end of winter, which is when it's driest).
Quote from: TrevL on July 03, 2021, 06:10:55 PM
Terrible! The driver of the little white car had a lucky escape!
My thoughts too. I was impressed by the nonchalant way he drove over the rubble! I hope he got to the bottom of the hill OK.
Stay safe!
Cheers,
Chris
@railsquid (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3832) at least with the landslides there is a good chance of a long warning - here in Yokohama the alert system on the phones was yellling at us 01:16 and again 01:20 that there was Level 4 warning for flooding and landslides.
Of course floods and landslips are a big worry for us as we live 16th floor of 23. Of course that makes for soem rock and roll in a quake but its a modern bueilding and the compensators seem to work well - not like the experience the missus had when we were living in an older house other side of Yokosuka had on 3/11 ( I was away in Osaka ) or that I had in 1995 in Hyogo with the Kansai quake.
Anyway I think the key here is modern buildings up to the latest building regs, especially the seismic standards, and either, if a tall structure, with suspension on footings to the bedrock if tall or, if a small dwelling, on higher ground away from the coast, away from slopes and away from floodplains. That way it only leaves the fauna (bees, snakes, centipedes, bears and wild pigs) to deal with ;-)
Oh - I forgot of course - volcanoes...
Cheers,
Colin.
@cmason (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7694) ooh I didn't realise there was someone else living in Japan :thumbsup:
Quote from: cmason on July 04, 2021, 10:55:49 AM
Anyway I think the key here is modern buildings up to the latest building regs, especially the seismic standards, and either, if a tall structure, with suspension on footings to the bedrock if tall or, if a small dwelling, on higher ground away from the coast, away from slopes and away from floodplains. That way it only leaves the fauna (bees, snakes, centipedes, bears and wild pigs) to deal with ;-)
We've gone for the small dwelling on higher ground (which was never at any point in its history a water feature) away from the coast, away from slopes and away from floodplains option. Well technically the ground slopes down gently to the north and south, but that's because it's pretty much on a watershed. But far enough from the actual countryside for the fauna not to be an issue, apart from the odd altercation with buzzy black and yellow insects. Also reasonably distant (for Tokyo conditions) from neighbouring structures, which lessens the risk from fire. Touch wood and all that...
Quote from: railsquid on July 04, 2021, 12:47:31 PM
@cmason (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7694) ooh I didn't realise there was someone else living in Japan :thumbsup:
@railsquid (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3832) Yep - there is also at least one more person (maybe not on NGF?) who is an NGS member who did a Japan article in the NGS Journal recently. Tis a small world ( and not jut in N! - yeah, that was a bad "Dad Joke"... ).
Quote from: cmason on July 04, 2021, 01:50:39 PM
Quote from: railsquid on July 04, 2021, 12:47:31 PM
@cmason (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7694) ooh I didn't realise there was someone else living in Japan :thumbsup:
@railsquid (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3832) Yep - there is also at least one more person (maybe not on NGF?) who is an NGS member who did a Japan article in the NGS Journal recently. Tis a small world ( and not jut in N! - yeah, that was a bad "Dad Joke"... ).
Ah, that would be me, and (joins the dots) you messaged me on Facebook last year (but it took me 6 months to notice).
Quote from: railsquid on July 04, 2021, 01:58:26 PM
Quote from: cmason on July 04, 2021, 01:50:39 PM
Quote from: railsquid on July 04, 2021, 12:47:31 PM
@cmason (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7694) ooh I didn't realise there was someone else living in Japan :thumbsup:
@railsquid (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3832) Yep - there is also at least one more person (maybe not on NGF?) who is an NGS member who did a Japan article in the NGS Journal recently. Tis a small world ( and not jut in N! - yeah, that was a bad "Dad Joke"... ).
Ah, that would be me, and (joins the dots) you messaged me on Facebook last year (but it took me 6 months to notice).
Ah - so we are truly few - although Maurice Osborne of Osborne's models who I have reason to correspon with from time to time ( I like his laser cut wooden kits ) tells me that Kato-san of Kato has visisted the UK to attend The International N-Gauge Show so maybe he can be brought on as an ally of an "NGF/NGS in Japan group". Anyway, yep I messaged you and did see your eventual reply but then things got busy again. I will dig down and message you again.
Cheers,
Colin.
Quote from: cmason on July 04, 2021, 02:07:54 PM
Quote from: railsquid on July 04, 2021, 01:58:26 PM
Quote from: cmason on July 04, 2021, 01:50:39 PM
Quote from: railsquid on July 04, 2021, 12:47:31 PM
@cmason (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7694) ooh I didn't realise there was someone else living in Japan :thumbsup:
@railsquid (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3832) Yep - there is also at least one more person (maybe not on NGF?) who is an NGS member who did a Japan article in the NGS Journal recently. Tis a small world ( and not jut in N! - yeah, that was a bad "Dad Joke"... ).
Ah, that would be me, and (joins the dots) you messaged me on Facebook last year (but it took me 6 months to notice).
Ah - so we are truly few - although Maurice Osborne of Osborne's models who I have reason to correspon with from time to time ( I like his laser cut wooden kits ) tells me that Kato-san of Kato has visisted the UK to attend The International N-Gauge Show so maybe he can be brought on as an ally of an "NGF/NGS in Japan group". Anyway, yep I messaged you and did see your eventual reply but then things got busy again. I will dig down and message you again.
I did make the acquintance of Mr. Kato very briefly (and got him to pose with the NGF coach (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=28689.msg385016#msg385016) :D ), very nice chap.
I remember that! You got a link to it, Ian? :thumbsup:
Like the link he put in his post you mean? :confused1:
Oh gawd - that's twice in two days I've misinterpreted squiddy.
I swear this lockdown is getting to me :laugh3:
The approaching typhoon (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=54468.msg721176#msg721176) reminded me of this sign I saw recently:
(https://japan-train-blog.infogogo.com/static/misc/turukawa-kaido-flood-warning_01.jpg)
As so often the English translation is lacking in detail, but this is the predicted flood depth if the nearby river (one of the two major ones in the Tokyo area) overflows its dykes.
Helpfully the 3.5 metre level is marked by a red band:
(https://japan-train-blog.infogogo.com/static/misc/turukawa-kaido-flood-warning_02.jpg)
(For anyone struggling with metric, 3.5 metres is almost exactly the same height as two Railsquids stacked vertically).
I see that helpfully, there is a step positioned at the red band, allowing you to keep just out of the water!
Meanwhile, if you are wandering about anywhere vaguely near the coast, you are never far from a helpful sign telling you exactly how far above sea level you are:
(https://japan-train-blog.infogogo.com/static/misc/shinagawa-sea-level-2021-07-15_01.jpg)
I assume Japanese people are reasonably aware of what to do in an emergency. Meanwhile, here in the UK, drivers approaching a flooded road, with the roof of a car poking up above the water level, will still insist on driving into it to show that their car can't drive under water either.
:laughabovepost:
Saw that on the news here last night
Quote from: Jim Easterbrook on July 26, 2021, 06:53:52 PM
I assume Japanese people are reasonably aware of what to do in an emergency.
"Reasonably" is the right word. Seems every time there's heavy rain and flooding, some idiot has to go and check out the local river etc. and quickly becomes a missing, then a very ex-idiot.
Here is someone who (in March 2011), having decided to check out the unusual sight of a tsunami flowing up the local river, has a bit of an oh :censored: moment:
Do note how few minutes elapse between "first tendrils of mud" and "complete disaster".
Meanwhile, from the Squidlet's school we have, for completion over the summer holidays, a booklet in which we're supposed to draw up a "family disaster plan" for dealing with typhoons and flooding (but for some reason not earthquakes). Seems to involve drawing up a complex set of flowcharts along the lines of "
if family member X is in place Y in situation Z, do Thing A".
Amazing but scary footage. I know that siren scared the crap out of me - I thought it was the camera guy screaming!
Regarding Squidlet's homework assignment, at least you have the whole school holidays to think of "Plan B" :D
Quote from: railsquid on July 27, 2021, 05:21:52 AM
Quote from: Jim Easterbrook on July 26, 2021, 06:53:52 PM
I assume Japanese people are reasonably aware of what to do in an emergency.
"Reasonably" is the right word. Seems every time there's heavy rain and flooding, some idiot has to go and check out the local river etc. and quickly becomes a missing, then a very ex-idiot.
Here is someone who (in March 2011), having decided to check out the unusual sight of a tsunami flowing up the local river, has a bit of an oh :censored: moment:
Do note how few minutes elapse between "first tendrils of mud" and "complete disaster".
Meanwhile, from the Squidlet's school we have, for completion over the summer holidays, a booklet in which we're supposed to draw up a "family disaster plan" for dealing with typhoons and flooding (but for some reason not earthquakes). Seems to involve drawing up a complex set of flowcharts along the lines of "if family member X is in place Y in situation Z, do Thing A".
I think I've watched a youtube vid of that exact location, but taken from the building in the top left at 3'53". Scary stuff!
I can help. Here is California's Silicon Valley survival algorithm:
if (natural_disaster) then
get(under, desk)
do while (natural_disaster_still_continues)
shelter(in_place, blame_everybody_else)
end
if (still_alive=TRUE) then
panic_buy (pasta, canned soup, tomatoes)
blame (everyone_else)
check (hair, makeup, nails)
else
file_lawsuit(while_dead)
end
else
do until (next_natural_disaster)
continue (vacuous, yoga, Peleton, new_sushi_joint, Ferrari, next_food_fad)
end
end
@LASteve (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6889) . I see you haven't fully intergrated into Californian society :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Quote from: TrevL on July 27, 2021, 07:06:45 AM
@LASteve (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6889) . I see you haven't fully intergrated into Californian society :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
I'm bi-cultural, and hence retain the right to poke fun at the country of my birth and the country of my permanent residency :)
That's a good way of putting it! Wish I'd thought of that! :thumbsup:
It's like when Australia plays England in the cricket (or anything) - I sit on the fence, then it doesn't matter who wins, I'll celebrate with multiple beers :beers:
Quote from: Bealman on July 27, 2021, 07:20:57 AM
I sit on the fence, then it doesn't matter who wins, I'll celebrate with multiple beers :beers:
What happens in a tie? Do you sit up there until you fall off? Perfect end to a day :beers:
Quote from: TrevL on July 27, 2021, 06:52:21 AM
Quote from: railsquid on July 27, 2021, 05:21:52 AM
Quote from: Jim Easterbrook on July 26, 2021, 06:53:52 PM
I assume Japanese people are reasonably aware of what to do in an emergency.
"Reasonably" is the right word. Seems every time there's heavy rain and flooding, some idiot has to go and check out the local river etc. and quickly becomes a missing, then a very ex-idiot.
Here is someone who (in March 2011), having decided to check out the unusual sight of a tsunami flowing up the local river, has a bit of an oh :censored: moment:
Do note how few minutes elapse between "first tendrils of mud" and "complete disaster".
Meanwhile, from the Squidlet's school we have, for completion over the summer holidays, a booklet in which we're supposed to draw up a "family disaster plan" for dealing with typhoons and flooding (but for some reason not earthquakes). Seems to involve drawing up a complex set of flowcharts along the lines of "if family member X is in place Y in situation Z, do Thing A".
I think I've watched a youtube vid of that exact location, but taken from the building in the top left at 3'53". Scary stuff!
This one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTyT8Tg62DQ)? (Sorry, can't embed it).
Yeah,that's the one, must watch it all again to see if I can see the guy who took the Vid in your post.
If the water doesn't get you, the debris will! :(
That is quite terrifying footage. I remember seeing it on TV in the bowling club at the time.
What was the death toll because of that tsunami?
Quote from: TrevL on July 27, 2021, 08:13:17 AM
If the water doesn't get you, the debris will! :(
Fun fact: much of the coast north of the Sendai area is very "fjord"-like, and the topography not only funnelled the water but (it was later discovered) that the tsunami scraped up silt from the seabed, which more or less doubled the impact of the water...
Quote from: Bealman on July 27, 2021, 09:04:39 AM
That is quite terrifying footage. I remember seeing it on TV in the bowling club at the time.
What was the death toll because of that tsunami?
Something like 20,000 (!).
Interesting that it was only discovered later that the seabed came in as well.... that water was BLACK!!
The death toll does not surprise me.
Today's leisurely Sunday morning viewing on NHK (BBC equivalent): "What if the big dormant volcano visible from Tokyo suddenly becomes undormant?"
(https://japan-train-blog.infogogo.com/static/misc/fuji-eruption-tv.jpg)
@railsquid (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3832) well Fuji will doubtless blow at some point - it has been 300 years and that is reckoned to be 100 years overdue.
And then we have either a Tokai or even bigger full-Nankai quake due at some poinnt. The accompanying tsunami with that will, for example, wash Kamakura away again - something which has not happened for about 800 years... Kamakura tsunami simulation:
https://globalnews.ca/news/2637710/watch-japanese-officials-post-shocking-video-of-simulated-tsunami-to-generate-awareness/ (https://globalnews.ca/news/2637710/watch-japanese-officials-post-shocking-video-of-simulated-tsunami-to-generate-awareness/)
Another good reason for living on the Tokyo Bay side of the Miura peninsula...... Sagami-Bay and further West are very exposed.
But still, overall Japan is a good place to live and we know the risks...
CM
Bit more interesting than our Sunday morning serving by the state premier telling us how many covid cases we had overnight, followed by the prime minister sprouting much of the same. :worried:
Stuff this. I'm off to the Happy Thread
This evening's M6.1 was a practical demonstration of the fact that if the earthquake is relatively close, the alarm will sound *after* the shaking starts.
TV is now broadcasting live pictures from different parts of the greater Tokyo area desperately looking for signs of, well, anything; it has just been confirmed that *no* bicycles have fallen over outside Yokohama station (I am not kidding).
Oooh, they've found a mildly burst water main.
Hmmm @railsquid (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3832) its been quite a long time since I have felt one like that - clearly defined vertical jolt - a gap - and then the surface waves. Actually mayeb not since 1995 in Kansai ( where I woke up in the air above my bed due to the vertical... ). of course did not have the emergency management system triggering the phone screaming at you as it does these days....
Anyway - I note it was rather shaky all over Kanto https://www.jma.go.jp/bosai/map.html#8/36.829/141.57/&elem=int&contents=earthquake_map&lang=en (https://www.jma.go.jp/bosai/map.html#8/36.829/141.57/&elem=int&contents=earthquake_map&lang=en)
Yeah, first shindo 5+ in the Kanto area since 2011, AFAIR.
Looks like it will be a long night for unfortunate elevator users and elevator management companies...
@railsquid (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3832) " it has just been confirmed that *no* bicycles have fallen over outside Yokohama station (I am not kidding)."... well someone on the Brits in JP group on FB just reported a broken champagne flute, another a broken Gundam figure and another ( more seriously ) that their TV fell over and got broke - but otehrwise All Quiet on the Eastern Front.
BTW - did you ever have a go in one of the earthquake simulators? - that is a great way to get scared and start securing all the furniture...
And I am also a tad miffed - as the rest of the household had all just fallen asleep and I was just about to settle down to a bit of modelling - having just built another Diag 12 20T Coal Hopper ( Osborn's kit ) yesterday and was going to work on the finishing when the disturbance occurred. Of coruse after that there were multiple distractions. So that is put off till the weekend now.
I do rather like these Osborn's wooden kits - a pleasure to build. It is actually an LNER design as it hss the steel end stanchions rather than the NER wooden ones - but this one I think I am going to finish as NER - not a lot of people would spot the physical difference, especially from layout viewing distance and I like some variety... it will look the part and as they say "its close enough for pit work".
Quote from: cmason on October 07, 2021, 03:46:37 PM
Quote from: railsquid on October 07, 2021, 03:23:51 PM
@railsquid (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3832) " it has just been confirmed that *no* bicycles have fallen over outside Yokohama station (I am not kidding)."
... well someone on the Brits in JP group on FB just reported a broken champagne flute, another a broken Gundam figure and another ( more seriously ) that their TV fell over and got broke - but otehrwise All Quiet on the Eastern Front.
I have no experience with securing champagne flutes, but here at Chez Railsquid we have clamped down on the TV:
(https://japan-train-blog.infogogo.com/static/misc/television-clamps.jpg)
I did find some minor "damage" on the layout due to an unsecured picture:
(https://japan-train-blog.infogogo.com/static/misc/tokyo-2021-10-07c.jpg)
Also the tree on the left fell onto the floor. But I am sure we will recover and rebuild :D.
Quote from: cmason on October 07, 2021, 03:46:37 PM
BTW - did you ever have a go in one of the earthquake simulators? - that is a great way to get scared and start securing all the furniture...
Yeah, in 1996 or 1997 if memory serves correctly.
Around 2008 I was working as the IT person for a small company in Tokyo which had a bunch of servers and stuff piled randomly on an unsecured metal shelf in the office, which I flagged as a potential issue multiple times, but they were all like "
nah, don't bother, nothing's going to happen" until one day in late 2010 I took it upon myself to go into the office very early and rearrange the damn thing and secure it as much as possible, and lo-and-behold it survived March 2011 unscathed.
Anyway not too much damage overall, but quite a few burst water mains, and funnily enough the other day I took this picture with an eye to posting it here:
(https://japan-train-blog.infogogo.com/static/misc/tokyo-2021-10-06a.jpg)
as the construction work is replacing the water pipes with more earthquake-resistent ones.
Saw a little segment on the morning ABC news of things shaking around a bit in Tokyo
Quote from: Bealman on October 08, 2021, 01:56:54 AM
Saw a little segment on the morning ABC news of things shaking around a bit in Tokyo
Did they report on the escaped emus in Kyushu?
https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20211007/p2a/00m/0li/012000c
Ha ha, no. I'm sure the Aussie news would not be impressed with them being made into lipstick ;D
Volcano, anyone (https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2021/10/20/national/mount-aso-kumamoto-eruption-volcano/)?
Just level 3 out of 5 at the moment.
Nature reminding us once again just who is in charge on this restless Earth.
I know Japan is in a tectonic nightmare of a position geologically speaking, Ian, but how common are eruptions at the moment, and is this one unusual, or just, shall we say, run of the mill? How close is it to population centres, and what does that large car-park serve?
Stay safe.
Quote from: daffy on October 20, 2021, 08:50:15 AM
I know Japan is in a tectonic nightmare of a position geologically speaking, Ian, but how common are eruptions at the moment, and is this one unusual, or just, shall we say, run of the mill? How close is it to population centres, and what does that large car-park serve?
My subjective impression is that noteworthy eruptions of major active volcanoes happen maybe a couple of times a year, somewhat less frequently than noteworthy earthquakes. This particular volcano is in the middle of the island of Kyushu, not immediately near any major population centres, though there are certainly smaller towns in the general vicinity.
The car park serves the "Aso Volcano Museum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aso_Volcano_Museum)".
Thanks Ian. :thumbsup:
I see now from satellite images that the volcano is surrounded by a semicircle of smallish settlements and cultivated fields, taking advantage as elsewhere in the world of the rich volcanic soils. Closer to the cone, on the west/north-west side there appears to be an unusual number of golf courses. :o
Tsunami hits Tonga after underwater volcanic eruption (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/15/tonga-tsunami-warning-as-volcano-erupts-at-sea)
And elsewhere around the Pacific, incoming here right now:
(https://japan-train-blog.infogogo.com/static/misc/tsunami-2022-01-16-small.jpg)
Indeed Ian. The phone has been shouting tsunami alerts at me every five minutes. Pray for Tonga and a reminder as to where we live ( on the ring of fire ).
Quote from: cmason on January 15, 2022, 03:54:44 PM
Indeed Ian. The phone has been shouting tsunami alerts at me every five minutes.
Is that the built-in alert system or some kind of app? My phone is silent, but it is well inland; I only noticed a few minutes ago when I checked the news.
Quote from: railsquid on January 15, 2022, 04:05:06 PM
Quote from: cmason on January 15, 2022, 03:54:44 PM
Indeed Ian. The phone has been shouting tsunami alerts at me every five minutes.
Is that the built-in alert system or some kind of app? My phone is silent, but it is well inland; I only noticed a few minutes ago when I checked the news.
Its the regular alert - just like the earthquake one. iPhone XS Max on Softbank network (but not a SIM locked one - bought direct from Apple ) with GPS locationing switched on but partially obfuscated IP locationing. Alerts are Kanagawa specific ( basically Tokyo-bay at 0.2m and Sagami-bay at 1m ). You may be too far inland to be alerted?
Quote from: cmason on January 15, 2022, 04:21:21 PM
Quote from: railsquid on January 15, 2022, 04:05:06 PM
Quote from: cmason on January 15, 2022, 03:54:44 PM
Indeed Ian. The phone has been shouting tsunami alerts at me every five minutes.
Is that the built-in alert system or some kind of app? My phone is silent, but it is well inland; I only noticed a few minutes ago when I checked the news.
Its the regular alert - just like the earthquake one. iPhone XS Max on Softbank network (but not a SIM locked one - bought direct from Apple ) with GPS locationing switched on but partially obfuscated IP locationing. Alerts are Kanagawa specific ( basically Tokyo-bay at 0.2m and Sagami-bay at 1m ). You may be too far inland to be alerted?
Yup, 25km land and 45m up, which is not typical stomping ground for tsunamis. Useful to know they trigger alerts, I have from time to time known to be in the vicinity of the sea.
IIRC the alerts are broadcast via an SMS-like mechanism on a tower-by-tower basis to all devices connected to the respective tower.
Yeah, we're just getting wind of it here.
Quote from: Bealman on January 15, 2022, 10:20:30 PM
Yeah, we're just getting wind of it here.
Surely that would be an anticyclone? :P
Both NHK channels still in emergency live broadcast mode this morning:
(https://japan-train-blog.infogogo.com/static/misc/tsunami-2022-01-16_02.jpg)
No major damage reported so far, but given that it provided the name for the phenomenon, Japan takes tsunamis seriously.
Quote from: railsquid on January 15, 2022, 05:10:23 PM
Quote from: cmason on January 15, 2022, 04:21:21 PM
Quote from: railsquid on January 15, 2022, 04:05:06 PM
Quote from: cmason on January 15, 2022, 03:54:44 PM
Indeed Ian. The phone has been shouting tsunami alerts at me every five minutes.
Is that the built-in alert system or some kind of app? My phone is silent, but it is well inland; I only noticed a few minutes ago when I checked the news.
Its the regular alert - just like the earthquake one. iPhone XS Max on Softbank network (but not a SIM locked one - bought direct from Apple ) with GPS locationing switched on but partially obfuscated IP locationing. Alerts are Kanagawa specific ( basically Tokyo-bay at 0.2m and Sagami-bay at 1m ). You may be too far inland to be alerted?
Yup, 25km land and 45m up, which is not typical stomping ground for tsunamis. Useful to know they trigger alerts, I have from time to time known to be in the vicinity of the sea.
IIRC the alerts are broadcast via an SMS-like mechanism on a tower-by-tower basis to all devices connected to the respective tower.
Yeah - we live high enough that I am not worried about the water and anyway on the Tokyo Bay side of things ( rather than Sagami Bay ) is not such a huge worry. If Tokyo Bay produced a big Tsunami then we would have much worse problems as it woudl need huge quake directly underneath to suitably stir up that relatively enclosed "lake" of water. Now a volcani eruption round these parts - that would be concerning. We do live on the opposite side of our building to the Fuji side - a view that apparently commands a premium from some folks - although what I always remember is something a former landlord of a property we rented up on the hill here said to me - it was a nice solid ( rebar ) house originally built to his fathers specification who had apparently insisted the Fuji facing wall be blank with no doors or windows.... which when you consider that Yokohama is only about 100km "downrange" from Fuji-san makes sense.
Well it's nice to look at; view from the local park:
(https://japan-train-blog.infogogo.com/static/misc/mt-fuji-sunset-2021-01-02-small.jpg)
It's the layer of ash settling across the Kanto region paralyzing all the infrastructure wot concerns me most. But anyway, ticked off one more outstanding item on the Disaster Prevention Todo List, which was to fix a free standing mirror to the wall in such a way that it will hopefully not break, or at least add too much additional damage.
Interestingly (well for those of us who follow these things), technically it wasn't a tsunami (which are caused by water displacing following shifts in the sea bed), but a change in sea level due to a sudden change in atmospheric pressure caused by the eruption.
For reference, a picture of a dormant volcano I took from a hotel balcony last month :D
(https://japan-train-blog.infogogo.com/static/misc/mt-fuji-2021-12-28_01.jpg)
That's I nice pic. The day we were out on a lake (dunno if it was the same one), it was cloudy and we couldn't see the mountain.
It's dormant, isn't it, not extinct.
Quote from: Bealman on January 17, 2022, 12:41:08 AM
That's I nice pic. The day we were out on a lake (dunno if it was the same one), it was cloudy and we couldn't see the mountain.
It's dormant, isn't it, not extinct.
Yeah, dormant, last eruption was in the 18th century, but it is currently under 24h observation due to various recent Portentous Signs of Doom.
If you were on the pirate ships, you were on the other (Hakone) side. Best viewed in winter when the air is clear and the snowcap is there; first time I've really seen it that clear that long close-up.
Yeah, that's where we were - I forgot the name :-[
What are the signs of doom? Seismic tremors?
(Geophysics degree) :drool: :drool: ;D
Quote from: railsquid on January 17, 2022, 01:28:04 AM
If you were on the pirate ships.................
Well I never. No wonder George got sent to Oz if he was a pirate :(
Quote from: Bealman on January 17, 2022, 01:31:25 AM
Yeah, that's where we were - I forgot the name :-[
Ashinoko.
Quote from: Bealman on January 17, 2022, 01:31:25 AM
What are the signs of doom? Seismic tremors?
(Geophysics degree) :drool: :drool: ;D
- it's been dormant for a period thought to approximate the historical interval between major eruptions
- there has been a general uptick in seismic activity since March 2011, including this M6.4 earthquake "thought to have been near the presumed location of the magma chamber" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Shizuoka_earthquake) (I remember feeling that one as the shaking reached my location at about the same time as those from another M6 quake out in the subduction zone)
- a recent specific uptick in seismic activity along the plate upon which Fuji sits (see video I posted here (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=41497.msg742719#msg742719).
:D
Quote from: Bealman on January 17, 2022, 12:41:08 AM
That's I nice pic. The day we were out on a lake (dunno if it was the same one), it was cloudy and we couldn't see the mountain.
It's dormant, isn't it, not extinct.
Get quite a few nice views of it this time of year from here in Yokohama - its the cold clear winter air rather than teh summer smog. Plus the inversion layer (I think thats the word?) makes it look closer - its actually quite uplifting a view in the morning during the often glum month of January as one struggles to get back into a work mode...
This evening we have had the pleasure of an M7.3 and subsequent tsunami warning, which unusually also knocked out the power across vast swathes of the Tokyo area (back on now), so had the pleasure of dealing with it in the dark, fortunately we have strategically placed torches for just such an occasion.
No major damage reported so far, one Shinkansen derailed, and apparently there is a fire alarm in number 5 turbine hall of Fukushima Nuclear Power Station Number One (yes that one). Though at least it is not being targeted with live munition.
Yes, just read that on BBC news website. Hope you are all ok, and lets hope it doesn't turn out like it did ten? years ago. Stay safe.
Aha, going by the broadcast alerts it was actually two earthquakes in short succession, the second one being stronger.
Quote from: TrevL on March 16, 2022, 04:32:56 PM
Yes, just read that on BBC news website. Hope you are all ok, and lets hope it doesn't turn out like it did ten? years ago. Stay safe.
Thanks, fortunately it's nothing like as intense as the 2011 one (it's more like the one which preceded it by a couple of days, hah).
Yeah, put TV on this morning here in Adelaide and it was on. ABC didn't give it much coverage, though.
This is the Shinkansen derailment:
No serious injuries, but part of the concrete viaduct is bent out of shape to an extent which probably can't be fixed with a dash of polyfilla.
Quote from: railsquid on March 16, 2022, 11:33:33 PM
No serious injuries, but part of the concrete viaduct is bent out of shape to an extent which probably can't be fixed with a dash of polyfilla.
That solves a problem for me. Rather than fix my hard to reach and slightly out of true elevated track work at the back corner of my layout I'll just say it's set just after a major earthquake hit the South East of the UK sometime in the 1930s :)
That reminds me, I must check the layout... Something fell down with a bit of a thud somewhere in the house, not sure where.
:hellosign:
sad news Ian, hope you & yours are safe & well.
stay safe regards Derek.
Quote from: railsquid on March 16, 2022, 11:59:16 PM
That reminds me, I must check the layout... Something fell down with a bit of a thud somewhere in the house, not sure where.
Eek! Priorities, priorities!
Quote from: Bealman on March 17, 2022, 12:45:02 AM
Quote from: railsquid on March 16, 2022, 11:59:16 PM
That reminds me, I must check the layout... Something fell down with a bit of a thud somewhere in the house, not sure where.
Eek! Priorities, priorities!
Looks OK, at least no more chaotic than it did before.
As the power and therefore fixed internet was out, no doubt everyone was stabbing the "reload" button on their mobiles, which congested the network so everyone was stabbing the "reload" button on their mobiles, so got out the Emergency Analogue Radio (quite nifty, it has a built-in hand-crank should no other power source be available) which proved to be the most effective way of finding out what was going on. Also the first time I've used a radio in more than a decade, I think.
Quote from: railsquid on March 17, 2022, 01:01:26 AM
Also the first time I've used a radio in more than a decade, I think.
Cool! It's not every day you get to say "Broadsword calling Danny Boy" :thumbsup:
Quote from: zwilnik on March 16, 2022, 11:50:43 PM
Quote from: railsquid on March 16, 2022, 11:33:33 PM
No serious injuries, but part of the concrete viaduct is bent out of shape to an extent which probably can't be fixed with a dash of polyfilla.
That solves a problem for me. Rather than fix my hard to reach and slightly out of true elevated track work at the back corner of my layout I'll just say it's set just after a major earthquake hit the South East of the UK sometime in the 1930s :)
Some prototype pictures for inspiration: https://twitter.com/JRE_Super_Exp/status/1504256489287868425?
(the third one looks suspiciously like part of my layout)
Another fabulous first for your brilliant layout thread. That's the first time I've seen 'Twitter'!
I'm glad you were not seriously affected by the earthquake.
All best wishes.
John
Quote from: Train Waiting on March 17, 2022, 09:24:32 AM
Another fabulous first for your brilliant layout thread. That's the first time I've seen 'Twitter'!
Here's another Twitter: https://twitter.com/railsquid (not very active though). :D
Quote from: railsquid on March 16, 2022, 11:33:33 PM
No serious injuries, but part of the concrete viaduct is bent out of shape to an extent which probably can't be fixed with a dash of polyfilla.
Sounds like a job for @tutenkhamunsleeping (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1490)
Quote from: railsquid on March 17, 2022, 09:27:56 AM
Quote from: Train Waiting on March 17, 2022, 09:24:32 AM
Another fabulous first for your brilliant layout thread. That's the first time I've seen 'Twitter'!
Here's another Twitter: https://twitter.com/railsquid (https://twitter.com/railsquid) (not very active though). :D
I always questioned what was the point of Twitter. Now I know - I can look at marvellous pictures of your layout. Another question answered - thank you.
Quote from: Newportnobby on March 17, 2022, 09:32:13 AM
Quote from: railsquid on March 16, 2022, 11:33:33 PM
No serious injuries, but part of the concrete viaduct is bent out of shape to an extent which probably can't be fixed with a dash of polyfilla.
Sounds like a job for @tutenkhamunsleeping (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1490)
Exactly! As part of a joint repair crew with @railsquid (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3832) and his never-ending supply of disposable chopsticks!
Quote from: Train Waiting on March 17, 2022, 09:38:06 AM
Quote from: railsquid on March 17, 2022, 09:27:56 AM
Quote from: Train Waiting on March 17, 2022, 09:24:32 AM
Another fabulous first for your brilliant layout thread. That's the first time I've seen 'Twitter'!
Here's another Twitter: https://twitter.com/railsquid (https://twitter.com/railsquid) (not very active though). :D
I always questioned what was the point of Twitter. Now I know - I can look at marvellous pictures of your layout. Another question answered - thank you.
Quote from: Newportnobby on March 17, 2022, 09:32:13 AM
Quote from: railsquid on March 16, 2022, 11:33:33 PM
No serious injuries, but part of the concrete viaduct is bent out of shape to an extent which probably can't be fixed with a dash of polyfilla.
Sounds like a job for @tutenkhamunsleeping (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1490)
Exactly! As part of a joint repair crew with @railsquid (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3832) and his never-ending supply of disposable chopsticks!
Let's hope Steve's music while he works is
Can - Tago Mago
The damaged Shinkansen line has experienced over 1,000 "items of damage" so will be reopened in stages, full reopening currently planned for ca. April 20th.
In other news a couple of power stations were somewhat knocked out, and as a sudden cold snap is predicted for tomorrow, the authorities are kindly requesting people to use less electricity, or else rolling blackouts (March 2011 called and said "hello"...).