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Title: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 19, 2023, 05:16:45 PM
Hello all,

Welcome back!  We've had lots of issues, with the main delay being by the company that we have our domain on.  They massively delayed the domain name forwarding to our new server.

Since then, we've had an issue where the old forum (this one!) hasn't been compatible with the new server.  NGF Tech is doing an amazing job in getting this to work, but certain parts of the forum don't funtion properly.  For those who understand, it is a PHP problem.

For the moment, the forum is up, but I think we might as well just push forward with the upgrade, to get rid of any PHP problems.  Then, as I've said for months, we can add on the modifications again as time allows.  Photo gallery, bookmarks, advertisements etc.

Thank you all for your patience and support.  I've already blown all of the funds on our new server and things, so I may have to ask for support with this as well.  And, for those who haven't realised, I have been putting updates on the N Gauge Forum Facebook Group.

Hopefully we're through the worst part of this!!!!!
Chris/Tank.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: port perran on July 19, 2023, 05:20:26 PM
Thanks for all your hard work @Tank (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2).
Let?s hope the rest of the upgrade goes to plan.
I am about to make a donation to forum funds to help with the expenses.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 19, 2023, 05:23:10 PM
Thank you very much @port perran (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=230)

Folks, please hold off on posts and images etc. if you don't want them to be lost. We're about to put the forum back into Maintenance Mode (soooorry!), and go straight into upgrading.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: RBTKraisee on July 19, 2023, 05:53:43 PM
I don't mind if this message gets lost in the process, but I definitely want to say a massive thank you for all the hard work you and "Tech Guy" have put into this so far, and for what you're continuing to do for us all!

The effort will be worth it in the end and we all greatly appreciate it!

Ross.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Trainfish on July 20, 2023, 12:02:00 AM
I'm not posting anything either  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on July 20, 2023, 07:18:17 PM
Thanks for your patience. This process has been going on almost two weeks now and we still aren't done. Part of the keep back was a bad registrar and many lingering outdated software / codes that need to be updated.

In fact, I only recently had to still get rid of old stuff even with the new installed. The work is STILL in process but you should have use of the main site now.

This new default theme will allow you to see the site on your mobile or desktop in a responsive way without worrying about switching.

If you see any thing major such as errors in doing basic things please let me know here so i can jump on it.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 20, 2023, 07:27:52 PM
Thank you Tank and NGFtech for all your doing.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Coyote on July 20, 2023, 07:32:08 PM
Thanks for all the work that has gone into this, and I am happy with how it looks and works on a mini IPad.

Dave
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: port perran on July 20, 2023, 07:51:27 PM
Looking ok on my ipad at the mo.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: dannyboy on July 20, 2023, 08:17:07 PM
Looks fine on my computer! It's like welcoming an old friend back to the (ladies chest) of the family.  :thumbsup:  Many thanks for all the hard work put in by those that have put the hard work in.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on July 20, 2023, 08:37:07 PM
Well done all involved :)

I like the clean look.  I noticed a "drag and drop images" option on the full reply page but it's not on Quick Reply (yet) so I used the gallery.

Seeing occasional "database error" messages, including one when I first tried to add a reply with gallery image BB code using Quick Reply, having previewed first to check the image was picked up.   I went backward in the browser and tried again it it worked second time.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/133/5885-200723203603.jpeg)

[edit] Same problem trying to add this post :)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 20, 2023, 08:39:45 PM
Nick agree with you. Used to be options we could click on up top eg search, pm members anybody else not seeing this? @tank
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on July 20, 2023, 11:07:35 PM
Sorry for the sudden lights out. Some of the additional add-ons aren't agreeing with the standard forum so we need to thread carefully. Thanks for reporting.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: emjaybee on July 20, 2023, 11:22:17 PM
OoooOOooOoo!

Snazzy!

Chris and NGFTech, thanks for all this. I'm quite sure it'll all be worth the agro.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Trainfish on July 21, 2023, 12:00:01 AM
I don't like the colour. Is this something I can change here?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: zwilnik on July 21, 2023, 12:41:11 AM
It worky :) Well done @Tank and @NGFTech for suitable application of technical knowledge, spanners and suitable application of brute force to get it running :)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: emjaybee on July 21, 2023, 12:45:30 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on July 21, 2023, 12:00:01 AMI don't like the colour. Is this something I can change here?

Take them 'rose-tinted' specs off.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Railwaygun on July 21, 2023, 02:09:24 AM
The little set of options at top left of the page - ie unread mail since last visit  etc wil I hope be restored RSN?

A great job and not a trivial task! How many  £ do we have to raise to keep it humming?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on July 21, 2023, 02:57:59 AM
Unread mail? Do you mean "Unread Posts" and "Updated Topics"?

This new forum has lots of features but it will be up to Admin to enable them unless what you are describing is a special modification.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: TrevL on July 21, 2023, 07:23:21 AM
Have the "Like/Thank you" "Funny" etc buttons disappeared?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: weave on July 21, 2023, 08:05:37 AM
Quote from: TrevL on July 21, 2023, 07:23:21 AMHave the "Like/Thank you" "Funny" etc buttons disappeared?


Was about to ask the same thing. People seem to be doing it but I can't see where I can do it from.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on July 21, 2023, 08:09:41 AM
I can't find them either!
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 21, 2023, 08:21:12 AM
Cannot work out how to add photos
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on July 21, 2023, 08:31:42 AM
I'm assuming because it is early days, that these things will be sorted in time. Tank did warn members that when the forum did return, it would be restricted.

Personally, I'm not even going to attempt to post pics or any post at all on threads (apart from this one), until things return to the forum we are familiar with.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 21, 2023, 08:32:55 AM
Good point George.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: dannyboy on July 21, 2023, 08:36:14 AM
I too have had the 'database error' message occasionally and can not see how to add a 'thank you' etc. to a post. I realise that there will be teething problems until it is all sorted out, but a big 'thank you', (again), to everybody involved it getting the forum to where it is. In view of the foregoing problems, I will not be visiting again for a week - okay, I am having a week in the UK from tomorrow, but I will be back with the 'groaners' next weekend.  :)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: snitchthebudgie on July 21, 2023, 08:37:26 AM
Well done, Tank!  I hate to think how much time I've saved over the past few days when NGF was down....
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on July 21, 2023, 09:01:00 AM
Quote from: Railwaygun on July 21, 2023, 02:09:24 AMThe little set of options at top left of the page - ie unread mail since last visit  etc wil I hope be restored RSN?

Unread Posts is top right of the panel, I'm using it.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/133/5885-210723090742.jpeg)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on July 21, 2023, 09:03:00 AM
Quote from: crewearpley40 on July 21, 2023, 08:21:12 AMCannot work out how to add photos
Until we get an equivalent option to the "add image and post" link we had previously,  I suggest add the photo to a gallery first (maybe in a different browser tab) and then copy the BB code into your post.   That's how I did mine yesterday and my previous post above.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: port perran on July 21, 2023, 09:05:02 AM
Yep, unread posts and Updated Topics top right for me and working just fine.
I managed to add a photo to my Camelbridge topic but it was a tad convoluted. No doubt there is an easier method but just trying to work it out.
Overall, I like the new look and feel.
I'm sure we'll all grow accustomed to it over the next few days.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: emjaybee on July 21, 2023, 09:07:07 AM
Serious question...

...in the list of 'Unread Posts', there's no 'button' on the far right side to take you to the last post in the thread.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 21, 2023, 09:13:11 AM
Chris Dawlish Warren added how he managed
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on July 21, 2023, 09:28:31 AM
Quote from: emjaybee on July 21, 2023, 09:07:07 AMSerious question...

...in the list of 'Unread Posts', there's no 'button' on the far right side to take you to the last post in the thread.

Yep, and that would also let you know who it was.

However, I think we should not be overcritical at this point, and given the time it has taken so far, maybe hang on a bit longer.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Steven B on July 21, 2023, 09:31:28 AM
Clicking the "Unread Posts" text at the top of the site brings up a list of the threads with new messages.

There's a "New" button on the left hand side of the entry for each thread that takes you to the newest message. The time I used it on old threads it only took me to the last page but it appears to work fine on new threads, and those already read so hopefully just the database catching up.


Steven B
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Nbodger on July 21, 2023, 09:39:19 AM
Quote from: emjaybee on July 21, 2023, 09:07:07 AMSerious question...

...in the list of 'Unread Posts', there's no 'button' on the far right side to take you to the last post in the thread.

Michael

If you are reading on your phone, view in landscape to view full screen
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on July 21, 2023, 09:50:17 AM
Being an old fart it took me some time to find the 'Unread posts'.
I miss the 'rating' system
Having paid a suitable bribe to 'Der Management' why is @dannyboy still able to post 'Groaners'?
Not sure if the 'tagging' system works as I had to type the full name and can't see if it has worked
Great to have the forum back and I'm sure we'll get used to things as time passes
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 21, 2023, 10:00:42 AM
Quote from: emjaybee on July 21, 2023, 09:07:07 AMSerious question...

...in the list of 'Unread Posts', there's no 'button' on the far right side to take you to the last post in the thread.

As said by Steven B, you can either click the NEW graphic on the Unread Posts page, to take you to the first new post for the user, or, you can click on the far right hand side where it might say "Today at 09:59:03 by Tank", which will take you to the last post of that topic.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 21, 2023, 10:01:36 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 21, 2023, 09:50:17 AMHaving paid a suitable bribe to 'Der Management'

Well, that secret didn't last long.   :-X  ;D
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 21, 2023, 10:17:48 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 21, 2023, 09:50:17 AMI miss the 'rating' system

That should now be working again. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Papyrus on July 21, 2023, 10:22:16 AM
Great work, @Tank and team. I love the new look but it will obviously take a while for everything to bed down and for us numpties to work out where everything is. I've put a few pesos in the Forum coffers. Let us know if you need more funds.

Cheers,

Chris

PS. I do miss the signals down the left-hand side though...
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: martyn on July 21, 2023, 10:27:51 AM
Another message of gratitude and congrats to all the work done in renewing the Forum. It must have been a nightmare at times!

Thanks for the hard work by all concerned!

Martyn
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Railwaygun on July 21, 2023, 10:32:45 AM
Can we fix this thread at the top of the list - it's has lots of hints & tips that all will find useful!

It takes a long time to forget 10 yrs of the quirks of the old system!!

Keep,up,the good work

NickR
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: BlythPower on July 21, 2023, 10:36:25 AM
A big thank you to all concerned with the upgrade. It's been a terrible few days without the forum. I've actually had to... gulp... do some work on occasions...  :*(
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: dannyboy on July 21, 2023, 10:57:30 AM
Quote from: Tank on July 21, 2023, 10:01:36 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 21, 2023, 09:50:17 AMHaving paid a suitable bribe to 'Der Management'

Well, that secret didn't last long.  :-X  ;D
@Newportnobby my bribe was obviously bigger than yours  :P  :)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: geofff on July 21, 2023, 10:58:32 AM
Well done to all concerned. Who pays for the upgrades and on-going maintenance to the site as there is obviously a cost to someone?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: dannyboy on July 21, 2023, 11:01:36 AM
Just a query, (to add to the list), when a member was tagged in the old system, their name was in blue. In the new system, it all seems to be the same colour and I have been tagged in at least one post but not received a notification. As I said earlier, I appreciate that there will be teething problems, so I am not complaining. Do we have an idea yet of what is required for forum funds? @Tank
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 21, 2023, 11:01:52 AM
Thanks for all of the kind words, and the amazing donations.  I'm waiting for the next bill to come in from NGF Tech this afternoon.  :uneasy:

JB has done an incredible job, and it has been a nightmare to sort all of this out.  Massive thanks to him! :beers:

Quote from: Papyrus on July 21, 2023, 10:22:16 AMPS. I do miss the signals down the left-hand side though...

Yes, I feel exactly the same, and I will put those back on here when I get home.  Unless JB beats me to it! 

Lots of settings to change, and also to figure out what is missing.  Some modifications that we had previously need the author of them to update them, before being able to use them on here.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: emjaybee on July 21, 2023, 11:03:28 AM
Quote from: Tank on July 21, 2023, 10:00:42 AM
Quote from: emjaybee on July 21, 2023, 09:07:07 AMSerious question...

...in the list of 'Unread Posts', there's no 'button' on the far right side to take you to the last post in the thread.

As said by Steven B, you can either click the NEW graphic on the Unread Posts page, to take you to the first new post for the user, or, you can click on the far right hand side where it might say "Today at 09:59:03 by Tank", which will take you to the last post of that topic.

Got it, thanks Chris.
I reckon I was hitting the 'name' which was taking me to the profile. I hadn't realised the post date/time was a link, or that the 'NEW' flag at the front was either.

We're getting there.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 21, 2023, 11:04:56 AM
Quote from: dannyboy on July 21, 2023, 11:01:36 AMJust a query, (to add to the list), when a member was tagged in the old system, their name was in blue. In the new system, it all seems to be the same colour and I have been tagged in at least one post but not received a notification. As I said earlier, I appreciate that there will be teething problems, so I am not complaining. Do we have an idea yet of what is required for forum funds? @Tank

I turned the Mentions modification back on about 10 minutes ago, so it should be working.  I see that I haven't had a notification from your message above.  :hmmm:  I'll check the settings.  @dannyboy Tagged to see if you get one.  :D
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: dannyboy on July 21, 2023, 11:25:06 AM
Quote from: Tank on July 21, 2023, 11:04:56 AMI turned the Mentions modification back on about 10 minutes ago, so it should be working.  I see that I haven't had a notification from your message above.  :hmmm:  I'll check the settings.  @dannyboy Tagged to see if you get one.  :D

No notification received @Tank
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Papyrus on July 21, 2023, 11:32:51 AM
Is it just me, or is the Forum working faster than it used to? I never thought it was particularly slow before, but now I seem to be able to whizz around like a greyhound on a skateboard.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on July 21, 2023, 11:41:08 AM
Hey folks, you all have an awesome Admin willing to do whatever it takes to get you the best so with some patience all things will be worked out. The old design was not mobile friendly, but this one is, so the layout is different for someone used to doing things in one fashion before. It is like driving an old car and then suddenly getting a new one -- you start trying to figure out what button does what or missing a past feature your old car had before that the new one doesn't. Sometimes, it is not that the feature isn't there it is just in a different location.

As for speed - here will be like lightning compared to the last server.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Dorsetmike on July 21, 2023, 12:53:34 PM
I'd like to see "Unread posts" and similar navigation items at the top of the opening page. It's going to take me a while to get used to it; of 5 forums I used to visit regularly this is the third to "upgrade" two I could not get used to, a fourth one closed and one of the members opened up a new one which most members have migrated to.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on July 21, 2023, 01:09:49 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 21, 2023, 10:01:36 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 21, 2023, 09:50:17 AMHaving paid a suitable bribe to 'Der Management'

Well, that secret didn't last long.   :-X  ;D

What you refer to is a completely different thing, Chris @Tank The above was just a crack at David's expense :D
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on July 21, 2023, 01:14:19 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 21, 2023, 10:17:48 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 21, 2023, 09:50:17 AMI miss the 'rating' system

That should now be working again. :thumbsup:

Yep - sorted  - thanks.
I may be missing something but I can quote a post but can't see a way to 'insert a quote'
I'd like to see the most frequently used items made more prominent or highlighted colourwise perhaps e.g.
Unread posts
Mark these posts as read
'Post' at the end of a post but, then again, I hardly ever use 'Preview' as I read things through afore hitting the 'Post' button
Maybe I'm wrong but I just tried to both 'Like' a post and rate it as funny but as soon as I'd 'Liked' it all the emojis vanished so I was unable to then 'Laugh'
Sorry, but I'd like the 'Log Out' back on the main toolbar (Just my preference)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Railwaygun on July 21, 2023, 01:43:00 PM
Quote from: geofff on July 21, 2023, 10:58:32 AMWell done to all concerned. Who pays for the upgrades and on-going maintenance to the site as there is obviously a cost to someone?

Use the donations button ( top, right) to help pay for the upgrades - as for the blood , sweat and tears - send a virtual pint!!
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on July 21, 2023, 01:48:37 PM
This is to show mentions are working @Railwaygun @Newportnobby etc

Donation button randomly appears in the footer until we can figure out a good place to put it.

BUT there is a Donations button in the top menu.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on July 21, 2023, 02:02:31 PM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on July 21, 2023, 12:53:34 PMI'd like to see "Unread posts" and similar navigation items at the top of the opening page.

It is, as I posted earlier.
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/133/5885-210723090742.jpeg)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on July 21, 2023, 03:19:32 PM
Quote from: NGFTech on July 21, 2023, 01:48:37 PMThis is to show mentions are working @Railwaygun @Newportnobby etc


 :no:
If the tags are working then I fear my 'Notifications' have changed as I always used to get a PM to say I'd been tagged
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Papyrus on July 21, 2023, 04:30:00 PM
Mick,

I've found this under my profile (top left of screen, drop-down menu):

[img]https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/133/2975-210723162248.png[img]

You may need to tick 'Receive email' to get your notifications.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Dunston on July 21, 2023, 04:31:45 PM
Well done on your patience and persistence. I don't underestimate the work going in to upgrading the forum, and so far it's quicker and works much more smoothly. Well done and thank you????
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 21, 2023, 05:14:09 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 21, 2023, 03:19:32 PMIf the tags are working then I fear my 'Notifications' have changed as I always used to get a PM to say I'd been tagged

I can't see that option in the settings.  However, I can see that you get the alert and an email.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on July 21, 2023, 05:16:05 PM
Multimedia Gallery fully works again and an additional reaction mod is also now part of the mix.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: RBTKraisee on July 21, 2023, 05:29:21 PM
The site is definitely faster and is also easier to use on mobile devices. I'm going to have to try the new image embed options later today, but it looks far simpler.

Awesome job so far guys and all the hard work is hugely appreciated!

Are there any specific areas/features you want some of us to help beta test and provide feedback on?

Ross.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 21, 2023, 05:37:38 PM
Still can anyone please @Tank @NGFTech explain as before we could add photos and it's proving awkward. Used to be able to add image to post and upload to gallery Still difficult for some who ate not technical like me
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: port perran on July 21, 2023, 05:51:53 PM
Quote from: crewearpley40 on July 21, 2023, 05:37:38 PMStill can anyone please @Tank @NGFTech explain as before we could add photos and it's proving awkward. Used to be able to add image to post and upload to gallery Still difficult for some who ate not technical like me
Looks like the add image facility is now there.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bob Tidbury on July 21, 2023, 05:55:39 PM
Thank you to Tank and the team .I am sure I will find out where every thing is eventually .
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Dave_K on July 21, 2023, 05:56:53 PM
Just a quick question - is there anyway of 'bookmarking' a thread so I can return to it quickly? For example, a 'one click' to take me to my layout thread, etc.(Before the forum update, I used to have to go via Notifications and it wasn't the best way to go about it!)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Graham on July 21, 2023, 09:01:59 PM
Excellent job @Tank and all involved, having been involved a lot of major migrations, to have one like this completed by such a small team is an amazing job. well done.
cheers
Graham
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on July 21, 2023, 09:51:17 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 21, 2023, 05:14:09 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 21, 2023, 03:19:32 PMIf the tags are working then I fear my 'Notifications' have changed as I always used to get a PM to say I'd been tagged

I can't see that option in the settings.  However, I can see that you get the alert and an email.

Yeah, but they're not working even being tagged by the NGF Tech.
Note - I can't refer to their post number as post numbers also seem to have vanished e.g. #123
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on July 21, 2023, 09:52:40 PM
Quote from: Dave_K on July 21, 2023, 05:56:53 PMJust a quick question - is there anyway of 'bookmarking' a thread so I can return to it quickly? For example, a 'one click' to take me to my layout thread, etc.(Before the forum update, I used to have to go via Notifications and it wasn't the best way to go about it!)


There used to be, Dave, but that capability seems to have gone walkies.
I can't find all my bookmarks, and I had loads of them :*(  :*(
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 21, 2023, 10:05:01 PM
Quote from: port perran on July 21, 2023, 05:51:53 PM
Quote from: crewearpley40 on July 21, 2023, 05:37:38 PMStill can anyone please @Tank @NGFTech explain as before we could add photos and it's proving awkward. Used to be able to add image to post and upload to gallery Still difficult for some who ate not technical like me
Looks like the add image facility is now there.
thanks may just take getting used to now and slowly working out.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: emjaybee on July 21, 2023, 11:25:41 PM
Does anyone know how to access and view their gallery?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 21, 2023, 11:26:59 PM
Click Gallery at the top, then My Gallery once the page changes.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: emjaybee on July 21, 2023, 11:34:03 PM
Ah!

I have to 'click' gallery twice for it to open that. I was only doing once and getting the three drop downs.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 21, 2023, 11:45:50 PM
Twice?  What device are you using? 

I'll tidy up the menu, once I work out how to do it, and add some shortcuts to help.  I think it might be a coding job.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: emjaybee on July 22, 2023, 12:05:01 AM
Quote from: Tank on July 21, 2023, 11:45:50 PMTwice?  What device are you using? 

I'll tidy up the menu, once I work out how to do it, and add some shortcuts to help.  I think it might be a coding job.

Samsung Galaxy S20 5G.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: port perran on July 22, 2023, 11:14:25 AM
This forum is getting better and better in my view and has taken on a much more modern persona.
Well done @Tank and @NGF Staff (and any others involved).

Just one comment. Is the Messaging function returning?  Or is it there and I simply cannot see it.

Regards
Martin
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 22, 2023, 11:24:24 AM
Thanks very much Martin.

Do you mean Private Messages?  If so, look at the very top of the forum.  This has become the 'user menu', so you can see your messages there. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 22, 2023, 11:28:57 AM
Thanks I've found it . Ngf looks tidy @Tank

Can we have the  buttons back I pm you about and for those using phones easier to show photos can be difficult
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: port perran on July 22, 2023, 11:44:56 AM
Quote from: Tank on July 22, 2023, 11:24:24 AMThanks very much Martin.

Do you mean Private Messages?  If so, look at the very top of the forum.  This has become the 'user menu', so you can see your messages there. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Tank on July 22, 2023, 11:24:24 AMThanks very much Martin.

Do you mean Private Messages?  If so, look at the very top of the forum.  This has become the 'user menu', so you can see your messages there. :thumbsup:
Doh  :doh: Thanks Chris. I hadn't noticed it up there.
Cheers
Martin
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 22, 2023, 11:56:07 AM
Quote from: crewearpley40 on July 22, 2023, 11:28:57 AMThanks I've found it . Ngf looks tidy @Tank

Can we have the  buttons back I pm you about and for those using phones easier to show photos can be difficult

Like I said, I'll try and get an 'editor modification' for the main menu, so that I can tidy it up and add shortcuts.  Though, the ones you mentioned needing are all at the top.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 22, 2023, 12:05:44 PM
Thanks Chris appreciated the response regarding this. Lots to do for you and Jean
 
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Ed on July 22, 2023, 12:21:47 PM
Suddenly was very slow to respond, taking over 20 seconds to open a post and has now speeded up again.

Oh err  :worried:



Ed
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 22, 2023, 12:33:56 PM
Thanks for that.  Yes, I was checking on my iPhone and had to wait 41 seconds.  :hmmm:  I'll check the logs.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 22, 2023, 12:44:36 PM
I'm aware of the extremely slow speeds that have been happening for the last 20 minutes.  I'm working on this with NGF Tech.

Teething trouble!   :D
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Ed on July 22, 2023, 12:55:05 PM
It's intermittent Chris @Tank


Ed
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 22, 2023, 01:18:03 PM
It seems that we're being being hit by 'bots' at the moment.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Trainfish on July 22, 2023, 01:49:58 PM
Quote from: port perran on July 22, 2023, 11:44:56 AM
Quote from: Tank on July 22, 2023, 11:24:24 AMThanks very much Martin.

Do you mean Private Messages?  If so, look at the very top of the forum.  This has become the 'user menu', so you can see your messages there. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Tank on July 22, 2023, 11:24:24 AMThanks very much Martin.

Do you mean Private Messages?  If so, look at the very top of the forum.  This has become the 'user menu', so you can see your messages there. :thumbsup:
Doh  :doh: Thanks Chris. I hadn't noticed it up there.
Cheers
Martin

You weren't the only one  :doh:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 22, 2023, 01:54:51 PM
I guess it is hard to spot when we've been used to nothing being up there! :D
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on July 22, 2023, 02:33:33 PM
I've had nothing up top for years - inside or outside :-[
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: emjaybee on July 22, 2023, 04:03:17 PM
So, I had an email to say I'd been 'quoted' in a thread.

I come onto the Forum, but I can find no notification, message, or alert on the Forum that will take me to the thread in question.

Any ideas? Am I not finding it through my ineptitude, or does that no longer happen?

 ???
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on July 22, 2023, 04:10:24 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on July 22, 2023, 04:03:17 PMSo, I had an email to say I'd been 'quoted' in a thread.

I come onto the Forum, but I can find no notification, message, or alert on the Forum that will take me to the thread in question.

Any ideas? Am I not finding it through my ineptitude, or does that no longer happen?

 ???

Have you tried at the very top of the page where lies 'Forum Name' then 'My Messages' then 'Alerts'?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: emjaybee on July 22, 2023, 04:19:51 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 22, 2023, 04:10:24 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on July 22, 2023, 04:03:17 PMSo, I had an email to say I'd been 'quoted' in a thread.

I come onto the Forum, but I can find no notification, message, or alert on the Forum that will take me to the thread in question.

Any ideas? Am I not finding it through my ineptitude, or does that no longer happen?

 ???

Have you tried at the very top of the page where lies 'Forum Name' then 'My Messages' then 'Alerts'?

Aha! Would you mind quoting me again please Mick. I've found the button, but I'd read your reply first.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: kesdrive on July 22, 2023, 04:21:10 PM
I am using an ipad and when I use my thumb to scroll down a post I keep hitting the 'more button' which highlights ' report to moderator' legend. I am scared I am going to report someone unintentionally!
 :angel:


Chris
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 22, 2023, 04:40:29 PM
Quote from: kesdrive on July 22, 2023, 04:21:10 PMI am using an ipad and when I use my thumb to scroll down a post I keep hitting the 'more button' which highlights ' report to moderator' legend. I am scared I am going to report someone unintentionally!
 :angel:


Chris

Don't worry, I won't send the boys round!   :D
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: kesdrive on July 22, 2023, 04:43:30 PM
That's a relief Chris.

 :thumbsup:


Chris
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 22, 2023, 05:32:10 PM
Chris @Tank @NGFTech sorry bother. Still issues downloading adding photos using a camera phone
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 22, 2023, 06:27:33 PM
I know, you keep posting. I'm working on something to make it easier.   ;D   Four posts in a day isn't helpful!   :smiley-laughing:

What part are you stuck on?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 22, 2023, 06:43:36 PM
Thank you. I shall be patient and wait. I appreciate,  we all do. I follow the links and instructions just not seems to load. Chris. We all appreciate your hard work honestly.  I shall wait. I'm not good at explaining in words but title user gallery add pic. Just clicked . Oh well happy to wait. I'm not frustrated just being patient now. Thanks first and foremost for responding


You have a good day evening with family. Off for a beer
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on July 22, 2023, 08:46:08 PM
@crewearpley40 The joys of using a phone rather than a proper computer and browser?  :)   

I confess I refuse to have a "smart" phone or iPad, despite being an IT savvy  software developer.  I just don't like them.   I do all my browsing etc. on a Windows laptop or desktop, I take photos on a digital camera and never have any problems with uploading them to here.

Maybe you need someone else to sit with you and observe/advise what's going on?  Ideally we need to see what happens at each step. Screenshots would be great but of course you're not able to upload them!!

Have you tried transferring the photos to a PC and uploading from there?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 22, 2023, 09:05:12 PM
Nick @ntpntpntp sorry only using phone. Cannot use work laptop. Tank has responded and matters are in hand. Its a patience game as we all adjust to the new look forum and I'm confident about uploading. Kind but being patient
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 22, 2023, 09:26:33 PM
Has anyone else been experiencing slow loading, or Temporarily Unavailable pages?  I've reported it to the host.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 22, 2023, 09:35:33 PM
Yes I have
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Malc-c on July 22, 2023, 09:44:03 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 22, 2023, 09:26:33 PMHas anyone else been experiencing slow loading, or Temporarily Unavailable pages?  I've reported it to the host.

Yes I have been sitting waiting upwards of 20-30 seconds for pages to load, especially when replying to a post.  I quoted your post and after 15-20 seconds the quick reply box popped up with *Add image to post actually contained within the box the message is typed in.  Your post was not present so I started typing and midway typing the quoted text was inserted a good minute after the reply box loaded
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on July 22, 2023, 09:46:39 PM
Yeah - speeds seem hugely variable from 'nodding off whilst waiting' to 'lightning fast'
Server is suffering from high stress
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on July 22, 2023, 09:52:14 PM
In the meantime I do hope the following are still on the 'to do' list

No facility to 'Insert Quote' which we used to have and was hugely useful

Cannot bookmark a thread, and all my previous bookmarks have vanished which will be a real  :censored:  :censored:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: weave on July 22, 2023, 09:55:22 PM
Hi Tank,

Not having a go but you did ask. 20-30 seconds to just view anything for the last few hours, 1 minute before I could write this reply, after pressing reply and about 10 minutes ago the whole site went off line saying it was overloaded or something like that.

Keep the faith!

Cheers, weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 22, 2023, 09:55:48 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 22, 2023, 09:52:14 PMIn the meantime I do hope the following are still on the 'to do' list

No facility to 'Insert Quote' which we used to have and was hugely useful

Cannot bookmark a thread, and all my previous bookmarks have vanished which will be a real  :censored:  :censored:

Quote button is either on a post you want to reply to, or there is a quote button in the 'new post' box, with the smilies.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Malc-c on July 22, 2023, 09:56:09 PM
It also took around 3 minutes (maybe longer) for my post to get added to the thread once i clicked the post button.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 22, 2023, 09:57:36 PM
Quote from: weave on July 22, 2023, 09:55:22 PMHi Tank,

Not having a go but you did ask. 20-30 seconds to just view anything for the last few hours, 1 minute before I could write this reply and about 10 minutes ago the whole site went off line saying it was overloaded or something like that.

Keep the faith!

Cheers, weave  :beers:

No worries!  :D

So, there is a problem with the MySQL database using the whole CPU on the server.  I've asked our amazing tech to look at it when he's first available, as I don't have enough brain cells to do that! :dunce:  ;D
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on July 22, 2023, 10:01:46 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 22, 2023, 09:55:48 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 22, 2023, 09:52:14 PMIn the meantime I do hope the following are still on the 'to do' list

No facility to 'Insert Quote' which we used to have and was hugely useful

Cannot bookmark a thread, and all my previous bookmarks have vanished which will be a real  :censored:  :censored:

Quote button is either on a post you want to reply to, or there is a quote button in the 'new post' box, with the smilies.

Not the same thing as 'Insert Quote' :no:
When posting a reply we used to be able to look down the previous posts and quote from one, say, 10 posts back.
As it stands it's causing multiple posts rather than one post with several quotes in it

Also the NGF Links have gorn AWOL
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 22, 2023, 10:05:09 PM
Oh I see.  You must be using the 'Quick Reply' at the bottom of each Thread.

So, just above that, on the right, will be a blue button saying 'Reply'.  Hit that, and that will give you the full ability of replying, and seeing past posts to quote. :thumbsup:

Bookmarks will come back as soon as the modification is modified for this forum.  :)

NGF Links, we'll have to look at when the Menu can be easily customised in a modification.  At the moment they have to be hand coded.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on July 22, 2023, 10:10:38 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 22, 2023, 10:05:09 PMOh I see.  You must be using the 'Quick Reply' at the bottom of each Thread.

So, just above that, on the right, will be a blue button saying 'Reply'.  Hit that, and that will give you the full ability of replying, and seeing past posts to quote. :thumbsup:


 :no: I don't use the 'Quick Reply'. In fact, it's annoying as using 'End' on my laptop took me to the last post and now it takes me to an empty reply box.
Every previous post to this used to have 'Insert Quote' next to it.
Please quote me from this reply, then go back a few posts and quote something from one of them in the same reply and then please tell me how you did it
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 22, 2023, 10:14:07 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 22, 2023, 10:10:38 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 22, 2023, 10:05:09 PMOh I see.  You must be using the 'Quick Reply' at the bottom of each Thread.

So, just above that, on the right, will be a blue button saying 'Reply'.  Hit that, and that will give you the full ability of replying, and seeing past posts to quote. :thumbsup:


 :no: I don't use the 'Quick Reply'. In fact, it's annoying as using 'End' on my laptop took me to the last post and now it takes me to an empty reply box.
Every previous post to this used to have 'Insert Quote' next to it.
Please quote me from this reply, then go back a few posts and quote something from one of them in the same reply and then please tell me how you did it

Quote from: Newportnobby on July 22, 2023, 10:01:46 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 22, 2023, 09:55:48 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 22, 2023, 09:52:14 PMIn the meantime I do hope the following are still on the 'to do' list

No facility to 'Insert Quote' which we used to have and was hugely useful

Cannot bookmark a thread, and all my previous bookmarks have vanished which will be a real  :censored:  :censored:

Quote button is either on a post you want to reply to, or there is a quote button in the 'new post' box, with the smilies.

Not the same thing as 'Insert Quote' :no:
When posting a reply we used to be able to look down the previous posts and quote from one, say, 10 posts back.
As it stands it's causing multiple posts rather than one post with several quotes in it

Also the NGF Links have gorn AWOL

How I did it:-
Hit Reply, scroll down to past posts, hit Quote button on the right of post that I want to quote.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on July 22, 2023, 10:16:46 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 22, 2023, 10:14:07 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 22, 2023, 10:10:38 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 22, 2023, 10:05:09 PMOh I see.  You must be using the 'Quick Reply' at the bottom of each Thread.

So, just above that, on the right, will be a blue button saying 'Reply'.  Hit that, and that will give you the full ability of replying, and seeing past posts to quote. :thumbsup:


 :no: I don't use the 'Quick Reply'. In fact, it's annoying as using 'End' on my laptop took me to the last post and now it takes me to an empty reply box.
Every previous post to this used to have 'Insert Quote' next to it.
Please quote me from this reply, then go back a few posts and quote something from one of them in the same reply and then please tell me how you did it

Quote from: Newportnobby on July 22, 2023, 10:01:46 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 22, 2023, 09:55:48 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 22, 2023, 09:52:14 PMIn the meantime I do hope the following are still on the 'to do' list

No facility to 'Insert Quote' which we used to have and was hugely useful

Cannot bookmark a thread, and all my previous bookmarks have vanished which will be a real  :censored:  :censored:

Quote button is either on a post you want to reply to, or there is a quote button in the 'new post' box, with the smilies.

Not the same thing as 'Insert Quote' :no:
When posting a reply we used to be able to look down the previous posts and quote from one, say, 10 posts back.
As it stands it's causing multiple posts rather than one post with several quotes in it

Also the NGF Links have gorn AWOL

How I did it:-
Hit Reply, scroll down to past posts, hit Quote button on the right of post that I want to quote.

Yeah - I've done that with no problem but try putting quotes from more than one post in the same reply please
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 22, 2023, 10:27:36 PM
I just did?!   ???

Quote from: Newportnobby on July 22, 2023, 10:10:38 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 22, 2023, 10:05:09 PMOh I see.  You must be using the 'Quick Reply' at the bottom of each Thread.

So, just above that, on the right, will be a blue button saying 'Reply'.  Hit that, and that will give you the full ability of replying, and seeing past posts to quote. :thumbsup:


 :no: I don't use the 'Quick Reply'. In fact, it's annoying as using 'End' on my laptop took me to the last post and now it takes me to an empty reply box.
Every previous post to this used to have 'Insert Quote' next to it.
Please quote me from this reply, then go back a few posts and quote something from one of them in the same reply and then please tell me how you did it

Quote from: Newportnobby on July 22, 2023, 10:10:38 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 22, 2023, 10:05:09 PMOh I see.  You must be using the 'Quick Reply' at the bottom of each Thread.

So, just above that, on the right, will be a blue button saying 'Reply'.  Hit that, and that will give you the full ability of replying, and seeing past posts to quote. :thumbsup:


 :no: I don't use the 'Quick Reply'. In fact, it's annoying as using 'End' on my laptop took me to the last post and now it takes me to an empty reply box.
Every previous post to this used to have 'Insert Quote' next to it.
Please quote me from this reply, then go back a few posts and quote something from one of them in the same reply and then please tell me how you did it

Quote from: Newportnobby on July 22, 2023, 10:10:38 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 22, 2023, 10:05:09 PMOh I see.  You must be using the 'Quick Reply' at the bottom of each Thread.

So, just above that, on the right, will be a blue button saying 'Reply'.  Hit that, and that will give you the full ability of replying, and seeing past posts to quote. :thumbsup:


 :no: I don't use the 'Quick Reply'. In fact, it's annoying as using 'End' on my laptop took me to the last post and now it takes me to an empty reply box.
Every previous post to this used to have 'Insert Quote' next to it.
Please quote me from this reply, then go back a few posts and quote something from one of them in the same reply and then please tell me how you did it
Quote from: Tank on July 22, 2023, 09:55:48 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 22, 2023, 09:52:14 PMIn the meantime I do hope the following are still on the 'to do' list

No facility to 'Insert Quote' which we used to have and was hugely useful

Cannot bookmark a thread, and all my previous bookmarks have vanished which will be a real  :censored:  :censored:

Quote button is either on a post you want to reply to, or there is a quote button in the 'new post' box, with the smilies.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on July 22, 2023, 10:51:34 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 22, 2023, 10:27:36 PMI just did?!   ???

Quote from: Malc-c on July 22, 2023, 09:56:09 PMIt also took around 3 minutes (maybe longer) for my post to get added to the thread once i clicked the post button.

Aha! The florin has dropped. :smackedface:
'Insert Quote' has just been replaced by the ability to use 'Quote' as many times as desired.
Oddly, when I tried this yesterday I was only allowed the one quote as opposed to multiples.
Ta muchly

One bonus for me is when I 'Mark all posts as read' I am prompted to confirm the action. Previously, being a numpty I would occasionally hit that by mistake and lose everything. Another 'Thank you'
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on July 22, 2023, 11:15:18 PM
Hey folks, I am back again to see what causes these go slows... so if you see or experience anything funky it is probably me in the background.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on July 22, 2023, 11:42:21 PM
Any chance of getting back the column that used to be on the right telling who the last poster on a thread was, and when?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 23, 2023, 12:00:05 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 22, 2023, 10:01:46 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 22, 2023, 09:55:48 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 22, 2023, 09:52:14 PMIn the meantime I do hope the following are still on the 'to do' list

No facility to 'Insert Quote' which we used to have and was hugely useful

Cannot bookmark a thread, and all my previous bookmarks have vanished which will be a real  :censored:  :censored:

Quote button is either on a post you want to reply to, or there is a quote button in the 'new post' box, with the smilies.

Not the same thing as 'Insert Quote' :no:
When posting a reply we used to be able to look down the previous posts and quote from one, say, 10 posts back.
As it stands it's causing multiple posts rather than one post with several quotes in it

Also the NGF Links have gorn AWOL
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 22, 2023, 10:01:46 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 22, 2023, 09:55:48 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 22, 2023, 09:52:14 PMIn the meantime I do hope the following are still on the 'to do' list

No facility to 'Insert Quote' which we used to have and was hugely useful

Cannot bookmark a thread, and all my previous bookmarks have vanished which will be a real  :censored:  :censored:

Quote button is either on a post you want to reply to, or there is a quote button in the 'new post' box, with the smilies.

Not the same thing as 'Insert Quote' :no:
When posting a reply we used to be able to look down the previous posts and quote from one, say, 10 posts back.
As it stands it's causing multiple posts rather than one post with several quotes in it

Also the NGF Links have gorn AWOL
agree with you mick. Plenty to get on with and some helpful replies to other queries I've had. There maybe some issues posting photos which ntpntpntp replied as did Chris at dawlish

He suggested

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=47727.870


May be old method  needs work which Tank knows

I'm saving into the gallery then following Chris method

Bit of a hard one but anyone else having fun posting photos ?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on July 23, 2023, 12:48:43 AM
Some of those are cosmetic issues to be worked out later, we are sorting loading at the moment.

Since my last post about an hour ago did anyone experience pages taking longer than 10 seconds to load?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 23, 2023, 12:50:09 AM
Jean. Yes. Around 7 8pm ..maybe congestion, traffic,on the line, signal masts ?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on July 23, 2023, 01:00:16 AM
   crewearpley40, I like your analogy of the cause.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 23, 2023, 01:11:21 AM
Your welcome Jean. If it helps I'm working on a phone.  Some work on pcs which I cannot use the work laptop. If its slow and every person in UK probably on a device, laptop, phone the masts and signals naybe busy with every networks. Could this be a cause ? I noticed bbc website was slow so I refreshed and cleared caches and was patient.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on July 23, 2023, 03:04:11 AM
Crewearpley40, when you encounter problems with multiple sites it is usually your own at home router, internet connection or computer. When it is just this site it is some software issue 95% of the time. One of the problems is the server software is newer than the forum software or scripts so they cause each other problems.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on July 23, 2023, 05:27:44 AM
Interesting. I've just logged on using my laptop and the info I requested in post #120 is visible on the laptop, although not on my phone.

However on the laptop, there is a huge blank gap between the forum banner at the top, and the list of forum threads. Trivial, I know, as everything else seems fine. However I just wondered if anyone has also experienced this?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 23, 2023, 06:12:03 AM
Thanks take your word for it.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: chrism on July 23, 2023, 06:14:51 AM
Quote from: Bealman on July 23, 2023, 05:27:44 AMHowever on the laptop, there is a huge blank gap between the forum banner at the top, and the list of forum threads. Trivial, I know, as everything else seems fine. However I just wondered if anyone has also experienced this?

Yes, I get that too - I was wondering if it was only me or my browser but haven't had a chance yet to try other browsers.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on July 23, 2023, 09:17:48 AM
No such issue on my laptop :no:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Sharkey51 on July 23, 2023, 09:55:59 AM
Home page displays okay on my laptop/Google Chrome combination.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on July 23, 2023, 10:00:54 AM
Certainly noticed some excessive slowness yesterday evening when loading pages, saving post replies, even things like calling up the drop-down menu under my profile top right of the page.

This morning all is flying along nicely :)

I haven't noticed any formatting or page layout problems on my new laptop (Edge browser).  I'll try my older laptop and desktop with Chrome tomorrow when I'm based in my office room rather than the living room sofa :)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 23, 2023, 10:13:24 AM
Many thanks to NGF Tech for getting on here and fixing the issue.  Hopefully it's all done. :D
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 23, 2023, 10:14:37 AM
Quote from: Bealman on July 22, 2023, 11:42:21 PMAny chance of getting back the column that used to be on the right telling who the last poster on a thread was, and when?

Do you mean when you've hit 'Unread Posts'?  It's still there.  Unless you mean somewhere else.  ???
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on July 23, 2023, 10:17:08 AM
Yeah, all OK now, but I still have a blank screen on my laptop.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Ed on July 23, 2023, 10:18:39 AM
Speed seems fine now.


Ed
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on July 23, 2023, 10:30:54 AM
Quote from: Bealman on July 23, 2023, 10:17:08 AMYeah, all OK now, but I still have a blank screen on my laptop.

Could you do a screen grab and show it on the forum please, George. I just can't picture in my mind what the issue is
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ohlavache on July 23, 2023, 11:56:05 AM
Hello.
I would like to report an issue I have when viewing the forum on my smartphone.
The "Last post" column never appears, no matter I am in portrait or landscape mode, no matter "computer version" is ticked or not in my browser. So I can't identify which topics I want to read.
I don't have this issue on my computer or on my Android tab.
That would be nice if you could fix it.
Thanks.

PS: I am missing the flag below member's avatar to see in which country people live. But I can live without it of course.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Nbodger on July 23, 2023, 12:05:59 PM
A Minor issue

When posting, if you select and highlight a section of text and click on bold and italics to highlight, the the text appears bold only.

what is happening is a bold marker is inserted at the beginning of the text and two italic markers and one bold marker are inserted at the end of the text. One of the italic markers should be at the beginning of the text.

There is a work around and that is to re-select the relevant text plus markers and add the italic marker

Hope that all makes sense

Mike H
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: njee20 on July 23, 2023, 12:37:21 PM
When I press "unread posts" I'm typically only getting 6-8 threads listed, where I'd expect hundreds (I may be prolific, but not that prolific!). Equally "updated topics" doesn't seem to be a chronological list of everything. 

Can we reverse the "preview" and "post" buttons too? I keep hitting preview on every post, which tells me they must be the other way around to before, or at least aren't the intuitive way around!
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Ed on July 23, 2023, 01:02:20 PM
Going slow again and I've just had the following message

"Temporarily Unavailable
Due to high stress on the server the forum is temporarily unavailable. Please try again later.
"


Ed
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Nbodger on July 23, 2023, 01:06:19 PM
Quote from: Ed on July 23, 2023, 01:02:20 PMGoing slow again and I've just had the following message

"Temporarily Unavailable
Due to high stress on the server the forum is temporarily unavailable. Please try again later.
"

That message appeared for me yesterday evening around 10:00pm

Agree that it was just slow taking 20 seconds plus to load at around 13:00 today

Mike H
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 23, 2023, 01:07:25 PM
I've had same issue. Just patience
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Ed on July 23, 2023, 01:11:08 PM
Now it's speeded up again.

It's like something is making the site very busy and slowing it down every now and again.

Very odd.



Ed

Edit Tried to post this and got the 'Temporarily Unavailable' message again.

Try again
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Ed on July 23, 2023, 01:11:41 PM
Worked OK  :hmmm:


Ed
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 23, 2023, 01:26:21 PM
Quote from: Nbodger on July 23, 2023, 12:05:59 PMA Minor issue

When posting, if you select and highlight a section of text and click on bold and italics to highlight, the the text appears bold only.

what is happening is a bold marker is inserted at the beginning of the text and two italic markers and one bold marker are inserted at the end of the text. One of the italic markers should be at the beginning of the text.

There is a work around
Quote from: Nbodger on July 23, 2023, 12:05:59 PMA Minor issue

When posting, if you select and highlight a section of text and click on bold and italics to highlight, the the text appears bold only.

what is happening is a bold marker is inserted at the beginning of the text and two italic markers and one bold marker are inserted at the end of the text. One of the italic markers should be at the beginning of the text.

There is a work around and that is to re-select the relevant text plus markers and add the italic marker

Hope that all makes sense

Mike H
[/i] and that is to re-select the relevant text plus markers and add the italic marker

Hope that all makes sense

Mike H

Yes, that's right.  A little annoying, but that's because you're selecting some text, adding code, and the cursor is placed in a position of the last highlight, as the job is done.  Then you want to do a second job/function, so you need to highlight the area to be altered once again.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Nbodger on July 23, 2023, 01:31:31 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 23, 2023, 01:26:21 PMYes, that's right.  A little annoying, but that's because you're selecting some text, adding code, and the cursor is placed in a position of the last highlight, as the job is done.  Then you want to do a second job/function, so you need to highlight the area to be altered once again.

That isn't how it used to work previously!

you only highlighted once, then select the functions required, used to do it on the majority of my posts

Mike H

Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 23, 2023, 01:32:04 PM
Quote from: njee20 on July 23, 2023, 12:37:21 PMWhen I press "unread posts" I'm typically only getting 6-8 threads listed, where I'd expect hundreds (I may be prolific, but not that prolific!). Equally "updated topics" doesn't seem to be a chronological list of everything.


That's not good.  Have you cleared your cache on your browser?  Or, perhaps it's the forum is only showing you want you haven't seen since we've been on the new server?  Mine seems to work fine, and I presume that everyone elses is?  Let me know if not folks.

Quote from: njee20 on July 23, 2023, 12:37:21 PMCan we reverse the "preview" and "post" buttons too? I keep hitting preview on every post, which tells me they must be the other way around to before, or at least aren't the intuitive way around!

You'll get used to it.  :)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: chrism on July 23, 2023, 02:55:35 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 23, 2023, 10:30:54 AM
Quote from: Bealman on July 23, 2023, 10:17:08 AMYeah, all OK now, but I still have a blank screen on my laptop.

Could you do a screen grab and show it on the forum please, George. I just can't picture in my mind what the issue is

If he's still referring to the large area of blank screen between the NGF header image and the top of the table of posts tat he mentioned this morning, a screenshot will be a tad tricky - on mine that blank space is about the height of 9 hits on the [Page Down] key.

Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Train Waiting on July 23, 2023, 03:08:02 PM
Hello

I wonder if anyone can help.  I was looking for my draft posts and they are not there.  But I noticed a notice that drafts will be deleted automatically after seven days.  This is a new feature.  Does this mean that my draft posts have all gone?  I had a good few of these because I often work on a post for several weeks (or months!).

With many thanks and all good wishes.

John
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on July 23, 2023, 03:18:29 PM
I've just rated a post with a 'Like' and wanted to also give it a 'Funny' but we are not allowed more than 1 rate it seems. A retrograde step, methinks

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/133/264-230723151544-133860549.jpeg)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on July 23, 2023, 03:32:39 PM
15.29hrs and the forum is slow to load then announces 'High stress' and refuses to load.

Also, clicking on my pics always used to enlarge them but now that doesn't work
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on July 23, 2023, 03:35:17 PM
Country flags now installed. The slow period and then fast noted. We are going to nip it in the bud at some point.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: njee20 on July 23, 2023, 03:37:33 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 23, 2023, 01:32:04 PMThat's not good.  Have you cleared your cache on your browser?  Or, perhaps it's the forum is only showing you want you haven't seen since we've been on the new server?  Mine seems to work fine, and I presume that everyone elses is?  Let me know if not folks.

I wonder if it defaults to (or is set to) unread since last visit? It only showed 3 this time (including this one). Browser/device doesn't change it. Shame if that's the case, all unread is far more useful IMO.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 23, 2023, 03:42:31 PM
Quote from: Train Waiting on July 23, 2023, 03:08:02 PMHello

I wonder if anyone can help.  I was looking for my draft posts and they are not there.  But I noticed a notice that drafts will be deleted automatically after seven days.  This is a new feature.  Does this mean that my draft posts have all gone?  I had a good few of these because I often work on a post for several weeks (or months!).

With many thanks and all good wishes.

John

Sorry John, I am pretty sure that these have gone.  I only turned 'drafts' on this morning.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 23, 2023, 03:44:01 PM
Still having trouble loading photos add image to post upload to gallery.  Having to obtain jpeg thing and cut copy paste when asked much easier before. Annoyingly have to take photos and save then use whatever bb code , cut paste. Might be a secondary thing we can figure out one day. Also annoying having to save to a photos folder and follow a way Chris at dawlish Warren told me thankfully . Appreciate the help and hard work Chris and Jean aka tank and ngf tech are doing
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Nbodger on July 23, 2023, 03:49:06 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 23, 2023, 03:18:29 PMI've just rated a post with a 'Like' and wanted to also give it a 'Funny' but we are not allowed more than 1 rate it seems. A retrograde step, methinks

I have to agree with @Newportnobby there are a few times recently I have wanted to do the same, definitely a backward step

Mike H
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on July 23, 2023, 03:50:42 PM
I wonder what it is you're doing differently?  It works fine for me every time, exactly the same as it did on the old version of the forum.
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/133/5885-230723154829.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=133864)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 23, 2023, 03:55:28 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 23, 2023, 03:18:29 PMI've just rated a post with a 'Like' and wanted to also give it a 'Funny' but we are not allowed more than 1 rate it seems. A retrograde step, methinks

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/133/264-230723151544-133860549.jpeg)


That should be fixed now.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 23, 2023, 03:58:17 PM
I think I've found a way. Just takes time and getting used to this. New forum new era. Not technical and need step by step guide. Takes time
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on July 23, 2023, 03:59:09 PM
Yup - that works. Ta muchly :D
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 23, 2023, 04:02:34 PM
Quote from: njee20 on July 23, 2023, 03:37:33 PMI wonder if it defaults to (or is set to) unread since last visit? It only showed 3 this time (including this one). Browser/device doesn't change it. Shame if that's the case, all unread is far more useful IMO.

I think, the 'Updated Topics' button is just for those threads that you're subscribed to.  So for me, that's any thread that I write it, as I automatically ask for notifications of replies.

The 'Unread Posts' seems to be any new posts that you haven't read.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on July 23, 2023, 04:08:03 PM
Quote from: ntpntpntp on July 23, 2023, 03:50:42 PMI wonder what it is you're doing differently?  It works fine for me every time, exactly the same as it did on the old version of the forum.
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/133/5885-230723154829.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=133864)


Totally agree although I've never been happy using a phone for the forum as constantly enlarging the content is a real PITA
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 23, 2023, 04:12:53 PM
Quote from: crewearpley40 on July 23, 2023, 03:58:17 PMI think I've found a way. Just takes time and getting used to this. New forum new era. Not technical and need step by step guide. Takes time

As I've said about 5 times to you, I'm working on a new feature to make it easier.  I'm sorry you're having trouble, but I only need telling once.  ;)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 23, 2023, 04:14:30 PM
It's fine now. I've worked a way out but thank you.  I am not using the work laptop for reasons I'm not going into except work. So have only a phone. Its fine. Just getting used to the new ngf and thanks nick, mick

Thanks to tank and jean.  I was only replying to ntp nick and thanking you all plus Chris at dawlish
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on July 23, 2023, 04:38:08 PM
We are going to have a brief restart of the server. Please standby.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Papyrus on July 23, 2023, 04:43:58 PM
Quote from: Train Waiting on July 23, 2023, 03:08:02 PMHello

I wonder if anyone can help.  I was looking for my draft posts and they are not there.  But I noticed a notice that drafts will be deleted automatically after seven days.  This is a new feature.  Does this mean that my draft posts have all gone?  I had a good few of these because I often work on a post for several weeks (or months!).

With many thanks and all good wishes.

John

Not much help with your lost drafts, I know, but when I need a long cogitation over a particular post, I usually compose my quality product in MS Word first, and copy and paste it when I am done. Admittedly, the other reason is that the only time I tried to 'save as draft' under the old regime, I couldn't work out how to find it again...

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: PaulCheffus on July 23, 2023, 05:12:03 PM
Quote from: crewearpley40 on July 23, 2023, 12:00:05 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 22, 2023, 10:01:46 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 22, 2023, 09:55:48 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 22, 2023, 09:52:14 PMIn the meantime I do hope the following are still on the 'to do' list

No facility to 'Insert Quote' which we used to have and was hugely useful

Cannot bookmark a thread, and all my previous bookmarks have vanished which will be a real  :censored:  :censored:

Quote button is either on a post you want to reply to, or there is a quote button in the 'new post' box, with the smilies.

Not the same thing as 'Insert Quote' :no:
When posting a reply we used to be able to look down the previous posts and quote from one, say, 10 posts back.
As it stands it's causing multiple posts rather than one post with several quotes in it

Also the NGF Links have gorn AWOL
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 22, 2023, 10:01:46 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 22, 2023, 09:55:48 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 22, 2023, 09:52:14 PMIn the meantime I do hope the following are still on the 'to do' list

No facility to 'Insert Quote' which we used to have and was hugely useful

Cannot bookmark a thread, and all my previous bookmarks have vanished which will be a real  :censored:  :censored:

Quote button is either on a post you want to reply to, or there is a quote button in the 'new post' box, with the smilies.

Not the same thing as 'Insert Quote' :no:
When posting a reply we used to be able to look down the previous posts and quote from one, say, 10 posts back.
As it stands it's causing multiple posts rather than one post with several quotes in it

Also the NGF Links have gorn AWOL
agree with you mick. Plenty to get on with and some helpful replies to other queries I've had. There maybe some issues posting photos which ntpntpntp replied as did Chris at dawlish

He suggested

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=47727.870


May be old method  needs work which Tank knows

I'm saving into the gallery then following Chris method

Bit of a hard one but anyone else having fun posting photos ?

Hi

For me it just worked the same way as before.

Cheers

Paul
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: njee20 on July 23, 2023, 05:27:49 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 23, 2023, 04:02:34 PM
Quote from: njee20 on July 23, 2023, 03:37:33 PMI wonder if it defaults to (or is set to) unread since last visit? It only showed 3 this time (including this one). Browser/device doesn't change it. Shame if that's the case, all unread is far more useful IMO.

I think, the 'Updated Topics' button is just for those threads that you're subscribed to.  So for me, that's any thread that I write it, as I automatically ask for notifications of replies.

The 'Unread Posts' seems to be any new posts that you haven't read.

That makes sense on 'updated topics', so it's like the 'view new replies' or whatever it was called in the old world. Unread posts is definitely giving me a truncated list though. Given no one else has mentioned it I assume it's uniquely my problem, so not one to worry about!

Remind me how I (and others) donate to the forum coffers without you paying fees? What's the PP account?

Edit: just seen the sticky, as you were.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: OffshoreAlan on July 23, 2023, 05:59:40 PM
I can't get the font option to work.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: PLD on July 23, 2023, 06:39:58 PM
Quote from: njee20 on July 23, 2023, 12:37:21 PMWhen I press "unread posts" I'm typically only getting 6-8 threads listed, where I'd expect hundreds (I may be prolific, but not that prolific!). Equally "updated topics" doesn't seem to be a chronological list of everything.
I'd noticed similar...

"Updated Topics" is the equivalent to the old "New replies to your posts" link.

I **suspect** that "Unread Posts" is the equivalent of the old "Recent Unread Posts" link which always gave a much shorter list than the "All Unread Posts" list (I never did really understand the difference or the criteria for the first, so always used the later...)

At the top right of the 'short list' returned by the "Unread Posts" link, there is button labelled  "All Unread Topics" which returns the longer list, so it's still accessible, just one extra click to get to it, which is maybe a mild annoyance but not the end of the world  ;)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: njee20 on July 23, 2023, 06:41:07 PM
Thank you! I literally just found that button to get the full list of all unread! Like you I see no real point in the "...since last visit" list, but good to have the complete list of unread.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Train Waiting on July 23, 2023, 07:05:27 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 23, 2023, 03:42:31 PM
Quote from: Train Waiting on July 23, 2023, 03:08:02 PMHello

I wonder if anyone can help.  I was looking for my draft posts and they are not there.  But I noticed a notice that drafts will be deleted automatically after seven days.  This is a new feature.  Does this mean that my draft posts have all gone?  I had a good few of these because I often work on a post for several weeks (or months!).

With many thanks and all good wishes.

John

Sorry John, I am pretty sure that these have gone.  I only turned 'drafts' on this morning.

Thank you very much @Tank . I'll rewrite the lost posts and, hopefully, make a much better job of it this time round.  Probably a blessing in disguise!
 
Thank you @Papyrus for suggesting that wizard MS 'Word' wheeze.  I'll do that from now on.

With all good wishes.

John
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 23, 2023, 07:58:09 PM
Quote from: OffshoreAlan on July 23, 2023, 05:59:40 PMI can't get the font option to work.

Testing Courier font. 

This works for me Alan.  How are you doing it?

[font=Courier New]Write your message here Alan![/font]
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 23, 2023, 07:59:03 PM
Quote from: PLD on July 23, 2023, 06:39:58 PMAt the top right of the 'short list' returned by the "Unread Posts" link, there is button labelled  "All Unread Topics" which returns the longer list, so it's still accessible, just one extra click to get to it, which is maybe a mild annoyance but not the end of the world  ;)

Nice one, I hadn't found that.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: OffshoreAlan on July 23, 2023, 10:46:33 PM
Testing font feature

Not working in Preview, so I'm having to post it to test.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: OffshoreAlan on July 23, 2023, 10:49:35 PM
There you are - it's only in preview where it fails to work. Rather dilutes the usefulness of Preview (I always use Preview on all my posts)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: OffshoreAlan on July 23, 2023, 10:50:58 PM
Oh no - it worked in Preview that time. I must be the problem, so thanks Tank, it seems OK after all.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 23, 2023, 11:18:51 PM
Glad that it's working.  I'll test the previews myself tomorrow to make sure.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Trainfish on July 24, 2023, 01:49:23 AM
Just a quick note to say I find the new forum very good and generally fast. I appreciate there may well be a little bit of fine tuning to do looking at other comments and I did find the forum down or "too busy" I think it said at some point on Sunday afternoon but then I saw a post from either Tank or the techy person to say so. I've posted on my thread just now including pictures and it all went swimmingly.
Thanks Tank and techy person, it may be a lot of work and faffing around but it's looking good  :thumbsup:

Ps, I still don't like the colours of the page though  :D
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 24, 2023, 10:24:54 AM
Quote from: ohlavache on July 23, 2023, 11:56:05 AMPS: I am missing the flag below member's avatar to see in which country people live. But I can live without it of course.

This is back on here again.  I missed it as well. :)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on July 24, 2023, 11:16:21 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 22, 2023, 09:52:14 PMCannot bookmark a thread, and all my previous bookmarks have vanished which will be a real loss

I don't want to labour this but can we have some reassurance at some point (preferably while I'm still on this earth) we will regain our bookmarks. I found this capability hugely helpful in having a list of threads I am interested in, threads helping with best ways to do things etc etc
Simply saying 'Use the Search facility' just doesn't cut it :no:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on July 24, 2023, 11:50:16 AM
@Newportnobby   you could always use your browser to bookmark the link?   
I must admit I've never used the forum bookmark facility but I do use browser bookmarks/favourites for various things of interest.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on July 24, 2023, 11:56:06 AM
Too late, Nick.
I don't want to start again. I'm guessing but I had at least 50 threads bookmarked :*(
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on July 25, 2023, 09:55:20 AM
From what I've seen yesterday and today there are a lot of avatars missing :hmmm:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: emjaybee on July 25, 2023, 09:58:54 AM
I have an 'Unread Posts' problem.

Last night I looked at the Forum, and I had 12 unread posts. This morning, I looked at the Forum at around 8.15am, still 12 unread Posts.

I've just looked at the Forum now,and I've only got 5 unread posts.

I suspected this was happening, which is why I've been monitoring it for 24hrs.

Why are my 'unread posts' vanishing before I've read them? It's a real pain in the wotsits. I frequently leave some unread items so I can look at them more leisurely lately. Now I can't find them as they've vanished.

Help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: weave on July 25, 2023, 10:51:22 AM
Hi all,

Apologies for being a numpty and if already asked/mentioned but how do you PM other members please (as in where is the message button)?

Thanks, weave.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: port perran on July 25, 2023, 10:56:08 AM
Hi Chris @weave
I was a numpty too and couldn't find that.
Now , I know it's obvious.
At the very, very top of the page above the NGF banner there's three icons.
Try clicking the middle one.
Cheers
Martin
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: weave on July 25, 2023, 11:05:06 AM
Thanks Martin,

 :doh: The one on the left even tells me my name  :thumbsup:  :D

Blimey, I haven't started drinking yet.

Cheers, weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Steven B on July 25, 2023, 12:59:18 PM
Quote from: weave on July 25, 2023, 10:51:22 AMApologies for being a numpty and if already asked/mentioned but how do you PM other members please (as in where is the message button)?

In addition to the top menu, there's a little speech bubble icon under the users name/avatar/post count to the left of each post they make. A green + next to it means they're currently on line.

Steven B
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: PLD on July 25, 2023, 03:19:25 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on July 25, 2023, 09:58:54 AMI have an 'Unread Posts' problem.

Last night I looked at the Forum, and I had 12 unread posts. This morning, I looked at the Forum at around 8.15am, still 12 unread Posts.

I've just looked at the Forum now,and I've only got 5 unread posts.

I suspected this was happening, which is why I've been monitoring it for 24hrs.

Why are my 'unread posts' vanishing before I've read them? It's a real pain in the wotsits. I frequently leave some unread items so I can look at them more leisurely lately. Now I can't find them as they've vanished.

Help would be appreciated.

Would it be the same issue as this - "Recent Unread Posts" Vs "All Unread Posts"?
Quote from: PLD on July 23, 2023, 06:39:58 PMAt the top right of the 'short list' returned by the "Unread Posts" link, there is button labelled  "All Unread Topics" which returns the longer list, so it's still accessible, just one extra click to get to it, which is maybe a mild annoyance but not the end of the world  ;)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: emjaybee on July 25, 2023, 03:32:10 PM
Quote from: PLD on July 25, 2023, 03:19:25 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on July 25, 2023, 09:58:54 AMI have an 'Unread Posts' problem.

Last night I looked at the Forum, and I had 12 unread posts. This morning, I looked at the Forum at around 8.15am, still 12 unread Posts.

I've just looked at the Forum now,and I've only got 5 unread posts.

I suspected this was happening, which is why I've been monitoring it for 24hrs.

Why are my 'unread posts' vanishing before I've read them? It's a real pain in the wotsits. I frequently leave some unread items so I can look at them more leisurely lately. Now I can't find them as they've vanished.

Help would be appreciated.

Would it be the same issue as this - "Recent Unread Posts" Vs "All Unread Posts"?
Quote from: PLD on July 23, 2023, 06:39:58 PMAt the top right of the 'short list' returned by the "Unread Posts" link, there is button labelled  "All Unread Topics" which returns the longer list, so it's still accessible, just one extra click to get to it, which is maybe a mild annoyance but not the end of the world  ;)


The unread posts gives me about 5 pages to trawl through.

To be honest it's making it difficult fir me to use the Forum as things just vanish.

I check the Forum just now for a response. A dozen or so posts. Looked at one, went to unread posts, only 1 showing now.

It's only started doing this in the last 48hrs. It was fine before, i.e., just after the upgrade.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on July 25, 2023, 03:39:46 PM
"Unread Posts" seems to be working as expected for me.  I get 1 or 2 pages just as I used to for "Unread posts since last visit" on the old version of the forum, which was the only option I ever used tbh.   

If I read a couple of posts they go from the list but the others remain.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: emjaybee on July 25, 2023, 03:47:06 PM
Quote from: ntpntpntp on July 25, 2023, 03:39:46 PM"Unread Posts" seems to be working as expected for me.  I get 1 or 2 pages just as I used to for "Unread posts since last visit" on the old version of the forum, which was the only option I ever used tbh.   

If I read a couple of posts they go from the list but the others remain.

The bulk of mine vanish without being read.

 :(
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: OffshoreAlan on July 25, 2023, 09:08:01 PM
I've successfully edited a post but I can't find the "Reason for edit" feature - has it been removed ?

It is sometimes very useful.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on July 25, 2023, 09:30:01 PM
Quote from: OffshoreAlan on July 25, 2023, 09:08:01 PMI've successfully edited a post but I can't find the "Reason for edit" feature - has it been removed ?

It is sometimes very useful.

That box is now above the post you intend to edit, Alan
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: OffshoreAlan on July 26, 2023, 12:22:24 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 25, 2023, 09:30:01 PMThat box is now above the post you intend to edit, Alan

Thank you. :thumbsup:

P.S. I've now used it successfully
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: KiwiAlan on July 26, 2023, 02:10:30 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 24, 2023, 11:16:21 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 22, 2023, 09:52:14 PMCannot bookmark a thread, and all my previous bookmarks have vanished which will be a real loss

I don't want to labour this but can we have some reassurance at some point (preferably while I'm still on this earth) we will regain our bookmarks. I found this capability hugely helpful in having a list of threads I am interested in, threads helping with best ways to do things etc etc
Simply saying 'Use the Search facility' just doesn't cut it :no:

In the Profile Options you can select Notifications and within this there is a Watched Topics section. Et Voila the bookmarks from the old version!

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/133/6986-260723020745.png)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on July 26, 2023, 05:36:12 AM
@KiwiAlan
Huge thanks for that, Alan!
Phew :sweat:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: emjaybee on July 26, 2023, 07:58:01 AM
Overnight I've lost 13 unread posts, they've just vanished again.

Am I the only one experiencing this issue?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: port perran on July 26, 2023, 08:04:28 AM
Unread Posts

I can't really add much but I have, I think, a similar issue.
This morning I opened up the forum for the first time from fresh with 10 messages ready to read but if I then click on the Unread Posts tab I have only one unread one.
Cheers
Martin
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: njee20 on July 26, 2023, 08:07:59 AM
I'm sure that's the same as I had, which PLD posted the answer to.

"Unread posts" is now actually unread posts since last visit. So this morning Martin there was only 1 post overnight, but everything else has dropped off that list. You have to click unread posts and select "all unread posts" to get the full list, which will be multiple pages.

It's certainly frustrating, as there are multiple clicks to get to the (vastly more useful IMO) all unread posts view.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: port perran on July 26, 2023, 08:10:00 AM
Actually, I've just discovered that if I click on the unread posts tab and there are none, I get a green banner  across the screen saying No Unread Topics since your last visit. Click here to open all unread topics.
Clicking there reveals more unread posts.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: njee20 on July 26, 2023, 08:23:51 AM
Yes, because you're refreshing your page, so nothing has changed since your 'last visit'. You need the full list.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Malc-c on July 26, 2023, 10:13:22 AM
I've got into the habit of right clicking any post from the "unread" list and open in a new tab.  This way you can read the post, then close the tab and get back to the list without the list disappearing.  I do this on all forums as a lot of forum software seems to take the displaying of the first unread post when selected as marking all posts read because it displays that selection in the same tab, thus replacing the list of unread topics.  The only way to get back to the unread list was to click the "unread post" link again, which treated this as another visit and would either show just the one or two threads that had just been posted, or display a blank screen stated no new posts. It seems that displaying that first topic when selected navigates away from the list so the forum treats that as all messages read.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 26, 2023, 05:30:50 PM
Unread Post.

This should really be called 'Recent Unread Posts'.  But, if you click it, when the page changes, on the right it will say "All Unread Topics".  That will show every thing that hasn't been read.

I'll look into the viability of making this more obvious, as we're not used to doing this.  :)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: njee20 on July 26, 2023, 07:31:03 PM
Quote from: Malc-c on July 26, 2023, 10:13:22 AMI've got into the habit of right clicking any post from the "unread" list and open in a new tab.  This way you can read the post, then close the tab and get back to the list without the list disappearing.  I do this on all forums as a lot of forum software seems to take the displaying of the first unread post when selected as marking all posts read because it displays that selection in the same tab, thus replacing the list of unread topics.  The only way to get back to the unread list was to click the "unread post" link again, which treated this as another visit and would either show just the one or two threads that had just been posted, or display a blank screen stated no new posts. It seems that displaying that first topic when selected navigates away from the list so the forum treats that as all messages read.

I agree on desktop I do that, but personally I do most of my forum browsing on mobile, where it's much clunkier.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Malc-c on July 27, 2023, 10:54:00 AM
I've never used a mobile phone for browsing - I tend to be old school and use the phone for talking to others... a function that seems to be forgotten about  :D

Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on July 27, 2023, 11:49:45 AM
I must admit when I'm on the forum I'm on the phone most of the time. As a mod in Australia, with the time difference between here and the UK, it enables me to be up to date with happenings a lot better.

For example, it's currently nearly 9pm, I'm away from home for a few days, in a motel room, have one eye on Australia playing Nigeria in the Women's World Cup, but am still able to post this!  :beers:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Ed on July 28, 2023, 09:47:23 AM
I don't appear to be  getting email alerts when replies are made to a topic I started.

But I do get email alerts when one of my posts is quoted.

I've looked at the notification settings and put a tick in "Follow topics I create and reply to" (top left) and also changed "How frequently to tell me:" setting just below it, to 'immediately' ,but hasn't made any difference.

There doesn't appear to be any setting to receive an alert or an email when a topic I've started has been replied to, or am I missing something?


Ed 
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on July 28, 2023, 09:52:41 AM
I'm having similar issues too, but it's early days since the new forum came online, so hopefully this will be sorted.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Ed on July 28, 2023, 09:56:46 AM
Quote from: Bealman on July 28, 2023, 09:52:41 AMI'm having similar issues too, but it's early days since the new forum came online, so hopefully this will be sorted.


Just got an alert when you posted this, but it's not  a topic I started.

I'm confused  :hmmm:


Ed

Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on July 28, 2023, 10:00:03 AM
Me too!

@Tank
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: weave on July 28, 2023, 10:02:38 AM
Just to say that I've never had an email alerting me to a reply to a topic that I had started since I joined many, many moons ago, only other ones I've replied to.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Ed on July 28, 2023, 10:07:07 AM
Quote from: weave on July 28, 2023, 10:02:38 AMJust to say that I've never had an email alerting me to a reply to a topic that I had started since I joined many, many moons ago, only ones I've replied to.

So how did you know if someone had posted a reply ?

 
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: weave on July 28, 2023, 10:12:55 AM
Press 'updated topics' top right. Shows new posts you've replied to and used to show your own if someone had replied but saying that, I haven't posted on my own threads since the revamp so don't know if that works.

Hope helps.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Ed on July 28, 2023, 10:16:29 AM
'Updated Topics' doesn't show anything, I just use 'Unread Posts'

 
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Nbodger on July 28, 2023, 10:21:56 AM
On each displayed page of a thread, where the reply button is there is also a Receive Alerts button, click on this to find other options one is Email and Alerts
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Ed on July 28, 2023, 10:31:22 AM
Quote from: Nbodger on July 28, 2023, 10:21:56 AMOn each displayed page of a thread, where the reply button is there is also a Receive Alerts button, click on this to find other options one is Email and Alerts

Ah, gotcha. It appears to have defaulted to 'No Alerts or Emails' so I've changed it to 'Receive Emails and Alerts'.

Thanks for this  :thumbsup:



Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: weave on July 28, 2023, 10:42:40 AM
Hi Ed @Ed , sorry for not helping and thank you Mike @Nbodger for that  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Railwaygun on July 28, 2023, 11:04:00 AM
The picture editor is still rubbish! Any chance of an upgrade?

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=61918.new#new
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Browning 9mm on July 28, 2023, 04:19:35 PM
since the 'upgrade' etc, all seems to be changed. used to be able to stay logged in.

mind you, probably no real problem, seem to be finding everything more difficult, so instead of staying in all the time, pop in every couple of days or so, a quick look through some treads, them log out again

progress  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on July 28, 2023, 04:32:36 PM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on July 28, 2023, 04:19:35 PMsince the 'upgrade' etc, all seems to be changed. used to be able to stay logged in.

I logged in once after the upgrade (I made sure to select to log in "forever") and my session has remained logged in ever since, no problems.  Exactly the same as it used to before the upgrade, as is the vast majority of the forum functionality that I've always used.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Browning 9mm on July 29, 2023, 07:54:50 AM
just logged in, only offered up to 1 month, forever seems to have disappeared, and see there is a message icon in front of the time/date of my post, but when I checked my messages, no new message.
what is that ?

also, noted the each message seemed to have a green bar at the dottom of the sender's info below 'reacted'. don't remember that before.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: GrahamB on July 29, 2023, 08:15:45 AM
I'm a professional Luddite so bear with me.

Is this the "new" forum or the interim forum? I've just noticed I've lost all my thread alerts. This seems to be a very low resolution version, the font takes me back to Sinclair ZX81 days.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on July 29, 2023, 09:34:06 AM
It may be just me, but I can't see the point of 'Quick Reply' as it's just as easy to hit 'Reply' under each post. Pressing 'End' on my laptop now takes me to an empty form rather than the last post in a thread.
Or am I missing something? :confused1:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Nbodger on July 29, 2023, 09:38:08 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 29, 2023, 09:34:06 AMIt may be just me, but I can't see the point of 'Quick Reply' as it's just as easy to hit 'Reply' under each post. Pressing 'End' on my laptop now takes me to an empty form rather than the last post in a thread.
Or am I missing something? :confused1:

Mick, I believe "Quick Reply" was always there, just that previously only the heading was normally shown and you had to click on it to access.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 29, 2023, 09:48:21 AM
Am I missing something still? Add image to post and still struggling to add photos of a phone. Or is it work in progress? Sensible answers please
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on July 29, 2023, 09:59:27 AM
Quote from: GrahamB on July 29, 2023, 08:15:45 AMThis seems to be a very low resolution version, the font takes me back to Sinclair ZX81 days.
Resolution seems fine to me, same as it was before.  Maybe the font used when typing a post is slightly different but it's not how the post is displayed.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: PLD on July 29, 2023, 10:00:20 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 29, 2023, 09:34:06 AMPressing 'End' on my laptop now takes me to an empty form rather than the last post in a thread.
The behaviour of the END key on your keyboard is a function of your web browser, not the forum. The default in most browsers is to go to the last displayable item on the page.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on July 29, 2023, 10:06:09 AM
Quote from: PLD on July 29, 2023, 10:00:20 AMThe default in most browsers is to go to the last displayable item on the page.

Which will always be a blank form in threads on this forum.
Maybe someone could explain the nuances between 'Quick Reply' and 'Reply' 'cos I sure as heck don't know them :no:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on July 29, 2023, 10:09:00 AM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on July 29, 2023, 07:54:50 AMjust logged in, only offered up to 1 month, forever seems to have disappeared

Nope, still there as an option
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/134/5885-290723100449.png)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: PLD on July 29, 2023, 10:11:37 AM
Quote from: Ed on July 28, 2023, 09:47:23 AMI don't appear to be  getting email alerts when replies are made to a topic I started.

But I do get email alerts when one of my posts is quoted.

I've looked at the notification settings and put a tick in "Follow topics I create and reply to" (top left) and also changed "How frequently to tell me:" setting just below it, to 'immediately' ,but hasn't made any difference.

There doesn't appear to be any setting to receive an alert or an email when a topic I've started has been replied to, or am I missing something?


Ed 

In the move, it does appear to have reset the alert options for threads created before the upgrade... I was initially getting alerts only for threads I've made additional contributions to since the upgrade. Simple matter though to go into the list and re-tick the box for those older threads I really want instant notification when someone replies. For the rest, I just read as and when via the "Updated Topics" list (equivalent to the old "New Replies to Your Posts") which is usually the first stop anyway when accessing the forum...
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on July 29, 2023, 10:25:08 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 29, 2023, 10:06:09 AMMaybe someone could explain the nuances between 'Quick Reply' and 'Reply' 'cos I sure as heck don't know them :no:

On some forum sites "Quick Reply" just gives you a text entry box and none of the other bells and whistles that opening a full "Reply" does.  Here the two options do seem pretty much identical other than Quick Reply doesn't have the options to set the message icon and notification options.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 29, 2023, 10:41:18 AM
Quote from: GrahamB on July 29, 2023, 08:15:45 AMI'm a professional Luddite so bear with me.

Is this the "new" forum or the interim forum? I've just noticed I've lost all my thread alerts. This seems to be a very low resolution version, the font takes me back to Sinclair ZX81 days.

Can you screenshot for me please?  It's clear and crisp for me.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 29, 2023, 10:43:44 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 29, 2023, 09:34:06 AMIt may be just me, but I can't see the point of 'Quick Reply' as it's just as easy to hit 'Reply' under each post. Pressing 'End' on my laptop now takes me to an empty form rather than the last post in a thread.
Or am I missing something? :confused1:

Reply gives you more options to add to your message compared to Quick Reply.  I haven't looked at the differences fully yet, but the whole idea of a Quick Reply is for the member to write a basic reply, quickly. ;D
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 29, 2023, 10:45:58 AM
Quote from: crewearpley40 on July 29, 2023, 09:48:21 AMAm I missing something still? Add image to post and still struggling to add photos of a phone. Or is it work in progress? Sensible answers please

8th time I've told you.  We're working on this.  Ban button very tempting...!   ;D
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Browning 9mm on July 29, 2023, 11:35:52 AM
found the forever, still no clue about the message icon, or the 'reacted' on messages.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: thebrighton on July 29, 2023, 12:05:17 PM
Having been reading posts regarding difficulty in uploading photos and inserting them in posts since the forum upgrade I thought I'd have a go as I've not needed to so far.

As a result I am confused. Absolutely nothing has changed. It is just as easy as it always has been on both laptop and phone and the process is identical.

In the box where you type your post it says add image to post and upload to gallery. Click on it and under select category pick random and choose file. Pick your photo then add picture and the photo appears on your post if you click preview.

Alternatively click on Gallery and pick 'random photos' (or your gallery) from the drop down menu then click on 'add picture'. On the next page it says upload picture and you click on the 'choose file' box beside it. Choose your file then click on add picture. The picture uploads and below it are a number of image linking codes. Click on the icon to the left of the first option which you can then paste into a post.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 29, 2023, 12:15:27 PM
That's correct.  As I've said since March (?), the Gallery will be the same until we get the forum stable and gradually install the modifications that we had once before.  We've had so many issues that you guys wouldn't have noticed, and have been spending many hours sorting out.

I'm working with the developer of the current Gallery to see if we can implement a drag and drop feature for the gallery, so posts are easier to put photos into.  This will make it easier for those who don't mind their photos all going into the 'Random' folder (I don't like that name, and will change that!  :D ), but for those who like their photos to be stored in their own folders, then they will have to click the button in the posts and add the codes to the posts.

We're basically catering for two different ways that people want to store their items.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: GrahamB on July 29, 2023, 01:36:11 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 29, 2023, 10:41:18 AM
Quote from: GrahamB on July 29, 2023, 08:15:45 AMI'm a professional Luddite so bear with me.

Is this the "new" forum or the interim forum? I've just noticed I've lost all my thread alerts. This seems to be a very low resolution version, the font takes me back to Sinclair ZX81 days.

Can you screenshot for me please?  It's clear and crisp for me.
Ummmm. I'm going to need tuition for that. It's clear but a larger font size than other forums I'm on.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on July 29, 2023, 02:16:18 PM
@GrahamB  For me the font size on here comes out the same as RMWeb (just a random other forum I chose to compare).
If you're seeing something significantly different then maybe it's a setting in your browser? 

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/134/5885-290723141540.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=134275)


I just played with increasing the font size in my Edge browser and it remembered the setting after I closed and re-opened the tab for NGF, and it didn't affect any other browser tabs.  I suggest play with your browser's font size options?

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/134/5885-290723142544.jpeg)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: GrahamB on July 29, 2023, 03:11:15 PM
I use Chrome. Tried moving the font size to small and all pages went small. Using your screen scrape, do you not see what, to me, looks like a very old font?

I guess I'll get used to it in time.

I also accessed RMWeb as I have an account but don't use it. My anti virus software told me it saved me from no end of issues  :D I guess it must like the NGF as well as it's never done that here.

Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on July 29, 2023, 04:03:14 PM
Quote from: GrahamB on July 29, 2023, 03:11:15 PMI use Chrome. Tried moving the font size to small and all pages went small. Using your screen scrape, do you not see what, to me, looks like a very old font?

I use Chrome on other PCs (just this spanking new laptop is running Win 11 and Edge).  Comparing the font with some old screenshots of the old forum I'm not seeing any obvious difference.

Chrome also allows me to change the font size of a specific tab without affecting the other tabs.  Use Ctrl+  or Ctrl-   rather than the Chrome Settings > Appearance font settings which are global settings.

When you use Ctrl+ or -  the browser should show you a small pop-up with the size increase/decrease (125%, 150% etc.) so see if it thinks the NGF pages are at something larger than 100% ?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Browning 9mm on July 29, 2023, 07:21:48 PM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on July 29, 2023, 11:35:52 AMfound the forever, still no clue about the message icon, or the 'reacted' on messages.

looks like no response, so forget it.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on July 29, 2023, 08:40:20 PM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on July 29, 2023, 07:21:48 PM...still no clue about the message icon, or the 'reacted' on messages.

looks like no response, so forget it.

What were you asking - where are the options, or what do they do?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: RBTKraisee on July 29, 2023, 08:47:13 PM
The "Reacted" bar shows how active that particular user is in terms of clicking the thumbs up/down/smilie/saddie/heart/tick/cross etc. buttons when "reacting" to other people's posts.

The bar can be Green, Red or a mix of both. The colours in the bar indicates the way the person shows their reactions: Green represents positive responses (thumbs up's), Red shows negative responses (thumbs down's). The more Green it shows, the more positive responses. More Red, more negative.

I've noticed that most people on here only show positive responses to other people's posts, so most users only show a full Green bar.

If you hover your pointer over the colours a popup shows the total number of positive/negative reactions that person has delivered across the entire site.

Ross.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: RBTKraisee on July 29, 2023, 09:01:50 PM
The simplest way I've found for adding my images when using a laptop (no idea about phones, sorry) is to go into your own My Gallery, find the button at the bottom that says "Bulk Add Pictures" and bookmark that page in your browser so you can easily find it again in the future!

You can add one or many images by simply dragging them into the box on the Bulk Add Pictures page.

You then have to return to your My Gallery - there is a button to do that on the Bulk Add Pictures, then go to each image in turn and copy the first link under the image into your message. After you do it half a dozen times it becomes a fairly quick process.

Ross.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Browning 9mm on July 29, 2023, 09:23:36 PM
Quote from: RBTKraisee on July 29, 2023, 08:47:13 PMThe "Reacted" bar shows how active that particular user is in terms of clicking the thumbs up/down/smilie/saddie/heart/tick/cross etc. buttons when "reacting" to other people's posts.

The bar can be Green, Red or a mix of both. The colours in the bar indicates the way the person shows their reactions: Green represents positive responses (thumbs up's), Red shows negative responses (thumbs down's). The more Green it shows, the more positive responses. More Red, more negative.

I've noticed that most people on here only show positive responses to other people's posts, so most users only show a full Green bar.

If you hover your pointer over the colours a popup shows the total number of positive/negative reactions that person has delivered across the entire site.

Ross.

many thanks for that, I had not noticed it on posts, but on the senders info to the left of a pm.

I still don't know what the 'message' icon means to the left of the time/date on my posts, though I do notice that posts no longer seem to have numbers.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on July 29, 2023, 10:16:08 PM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on July 29, 2023, 09:23:36 PMI still don't know what the 'message' icon means to the left of the time/date on my posts, though I do notice that posts no longer seem to have numbers.

As to the first bit, I clicked on the 'Message' icon and it gave me some extra options for emojis.
Posts do have numbers in the top right hand corner which is how I know your post was number #249 :D
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Browning 9mm on July 30, 2023, 07:48:20 AM
thanks, Mick.
number has just been moved, I hadn't noticed.
re the message icon, I clicked on it to see if it meant I had a message, but like you just got the emojis.
I was confused as to why it only seemed to appear against my posts, and had no connection with messages.

just one of life's mysteries I guess.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on July 30, 2023, 08:07:40 AM
If it's any consolation, I'm struggling with this at times, too.

We'll just have to get used to it, I guess.  :beers:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on July 30, 2023, 10:01:54 AM
Having had 12 years of the 'old' I must admit I still struggle slightly with no 'See all unreadposts' and instead looking top right for 'Unreadposts' but especially I still look for 'Logout' on the main toolbar.
Some of the Mods duties are now somewhat different so please bear with us old fogies while we get used to things.
There's no manual!!!
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on July 30, 2023, 10:19:29 AM
Thanks, Mick. Summed up nicely.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on July 30, 2023, 10:40:44 AM
Top of the page states 6 members and 157 guests are reading this thread.
I do hope the guests are not being put off joining!
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on July 30, 2023, 10:41:15 AM
Great job getting this new version up and running.  For me it seems to have been pretty painless and everything I use still works as it did before, at most a couple of things moved on the page but easily found (a credit to all the hard work carried out "under the covers"  :thumbsup:  )
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: PLD on July 30, 2023, 11:17:06 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 30, 2023, 10:40:44 AMTop of the page states 6 members and 157 guests are reading this thread.
I do hope the guests are not being put off joining!
There are a few things that are a little bit different or in a slightly different place, but to me many of the postings in this thread show a lack of willingness to explore the functions, or a failure to read when they ask the same question someone else gave a solution for a few posts earlier.
(plus one lemon who keeps asking the same thing over and over again about something that as far as I can see is no different to how it was before, and Admins saying 8 times now they are working on it!)

Fundamentally there is no functionality lost from pre-upgrade and for me at least improved performance. It feels mostly a resistance to change and for the end user those changes are mostly cosmetic...

We've leapt forward several steps of the forum software in one go so a lot of things have landed at once, rather than gradually so maybe that has unsettled some who are wary of change.
Certainly nothing about the forum itself that should put potential new members off... One or two members however...
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Papyrus on July 30, 2023, 11:35:13 AM
I agree. The appearance has changed and a few things are in different places, but I'm finding my way around it now and it's much easier to use. I appreciate what @Tank says, that there are areas they are still working on, but that is only to be expected. I found you do need to change your account settings for notifications and the like, but that is just personalisation, like you would your emails or browser. I think the tech team are to be applauded for what they have achieved.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: thebrighton on July 30, 2023, 11:52:21 AM
One thing I am missing and can't find is "search own topics" which used to be near the top along with unread posts etc. I've found "search own posts" under my profile but will I now need to bookmark my topics to find them more easily when I want to update them? Cheers
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: PLD on July 30, 2023, 12:16:49 PM
Quote from: thebrighton on July 30, 2023, 11:52:21 AMOne thing I am missing and can't find is "search own topics" which used to be near the top along with unread posts etc. I've found "search own posts" under my profile but will I now need to bookmark my topics to find them more easily when I want to update them? Cheers
It's in the same place as "Show Posts"
[Messages] is your individual posts.
[Topics] is the topics you started.

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Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on July 30, 2023, 12:37:11 PM
And if looking for previous bookmarked topics, see here...........

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?msg=803310
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on July 31, 2023, 01:18:19 PM
Quote from: KiwiAlan on July 26, 2023, 02:10:30 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 24, 2023, 11:16:21 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 22, 2023, 09:52:14 PMCannot bookmark a thread, and all my previous bookmarks have vanished which will be a real loss

I don't want to labour this but can we have some reassurance at some point (preferably while I'm still on this earth) we will regain our bookmarks. I found this capability hugely helpful in having a list of threads I am interested in, threads helping with best ways to do things etc etc
Simply saying 'Use the Search facility' just doesn't cut it :no:

In the Profile Options you can select Notifications and within this there is a Watched Topics section. Et Voila the bookmarks from the old version!

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Having used 'Notifications' > Watched Topics', it transpires the list is NOT a list of my bookmarked topics at all, not least because both my layouts and my test about Kato #4 points are missing from that list.
I have not a clue what defines a 'Watched Topic' but a bookmark it certainly is not.
Could I please ask @Tank and @NGFTech to look into restoring bookmarked topics and also the ability to bookmark new ones to add to that list?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on July 31, 2023, 07:20:49 PM
Yes, it's on the list to be put on here, as soon as the original developer wishes to update it.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: GrahamB on July 31, 2023, 08:10:51 PM
Quote from: ntpntpntp on July 29, 2023, 04:03:14 PM
Quote from: GrahamB on July 29, 2023, 03:11:15 PMI use Chrome. Tried moving the font size to small and all pages went small. Using your screen scrape, do you not see what, to me, looks like a very old font?

I use Chrome on other PCs (just this spanking new laptop is running Win 11 and Edge).  Comparing the font with some old screenshots of the old forum I'm not seeing any obvious difference.

Chrome also allows me to change the font size of a specific tab without affecting the other tabs.  Use Ctrl+  or Ctrl-   rather than the Chrome Settings > Appearance font settings which are global settings.

When you use Ctrl+ or -  the browser should show you a small pop-up with the size increase/decrease (125%, 150% etc.) so see if it thinks the NGF pages are at something larger than 100% ?
Mine is set for 110%. 100% doesn't use the whole screen.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on August 03, 2023, 07:57:49 AM
I'm still getting that huge expanse of nothing between the banner and the forum itself on my laptop (phone ok).

Sounds trivial, but it is becoming very annoying as it happens everytime I look at a post.

Anyone got a solution?  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Steven B on August 03, 2023, 08:35:46 AM
One minor niggle - is it possible for a "Log out" button to be added to the top of the page along side "My Messages" and "Alerts"? Currently it's in the drop down menu which takes several seconds to open. Speeding up the drawing of the menu would be a solution to a minor problem!

Steven B
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on August 03, 2023, 08:40:36 AM
Quote from: Steven B on August 03, 2023, 08:35:46 AMOne minor niggle - is it possible for a "Log out" button to be added to the top of the page along side "My Messages" and "Alerts"? Currently it's in the drop down menu which takes several seconds to open. Speeding up the drawing of the menu would be a solution to a minor problem!

Steven B

It's something I've mentioned before (but can't be arsed to look for). Sheer habit makes me go to the main toolbar when I want to log out :doh:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on August 03, 2023, 08:43:52 AM
I don't log out  :D
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: chrism on August 03, 2023, 08:47:31 AM
Quote from: Bealman on August 03, 2023, 07:57:49 AMI'm still getting that huge expanse of nothing between the banner and the forum itself on my laptop (phone ok).

Sounds trivial, but it is becoming very annoying as it happens everytime I look at a post.

Anyone got a solution?  :hmmm:

I tried updating my Seamonkey browser but it's made no difference.

It wouldn't be so bad if the excess space was consistent but it's not - sometimes the blank space is practically nothing, other times it's as much as ten hits of the [Page Down] key.

Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: emjaybee on August 03, 2023, 08:56:55 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on August 03, 2023, 08:40:36 AM
Quote from: Steven B on August 03, 2023, 08:35:46 AMOne minor niggle - is it possible for a "Log out" button to be added to the top of the page along side "My Messages" and "Alerts"? Currently it's in the drop down menu which takes several seconds to open. Speeding up the drawing of the menu would be a solution to a minor problem!

Steven B

It's something I've mentioned before (but can't be arsed to look for). Sheer habit makes me go to the main toolbar when I want to log out :doh:

Log out...?

Oooo, I think you misunderstand sir, this is  the Hotel California...
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on August 03, 2023, 10:27:11 AM
Quote from: Steven B on August 03, 2023, 08:35:46 AMOne minor niggle - is it possible for a "Log out" button to be added to the top of the page along side "My Messages" and "Alerts"?

The dropdown to get to the Log Out option is quite quick for me , I'd say 1-2 seconds at most.  I never log out though, can't think of any reason why?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Ed on August 03, 2023, 10:30:25 AM
Quote from: chrism on August 03, 2023, 08:47:31 AM
Quote from: Bealman on August 03, 2023, 07:57:49 AMI'm still getting that huge expanse of nothing between the banner and the forum itself on my laptop (phone ok).

Sounds trivial, but it is becoming very annoying as it happens everytime I look at a post.

Anyone got a solution?  :hmmm:

I tried updating my Seamonkey browser but it's made no difference.

It wouldn't be so bad if the excess space was consistent but it's not - sometimes the blank space is practically nothing, other times it's as much as ten hits of the [Page Down] key.



Have you tried a different browser, Firefox, Chrome?

Ed
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on August 03, 2023, 10:43:03 AM
No.l use Firefox all the time.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Ed on August 03, 2023, 11:00:00 AM
Quote from: Bealman on August 03, 2023, 10:43:03 AMNo.l use Firefox all the time.

Is it worth trying another one anyway, just to see if you get the same problem.

Just a thought.


Ed
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on August 03, 2023, 11:21:38 AM
I must admit I gave up on Firefox many years ago, didn't realise it's still going :)   Used to be my preference at work, but we/I moved to Chrome which I also use at home except for my latest Win11 laptop on which I'm trialling Edge.  Edge is touted as now having the same engine as Chrome under the covers, so far I'd say 99% identical functionality - just a couple of niggles with the Hornby forum which I don't get on Chrome.  This forum seems fine with Edge.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: PLD on August 03, 2023, 12:07:47 PM
Quote from: Bealman on August 03, 2023, 07:57:49 AMI'm still getting that huge expanse of nothing between the banner and the forum itself on my laptop (phone ok).

Sounds trivial, but it is becoming very annoying as it happens everytime I look at a post.

Anyone got a solution?  :hmmm:
When I had similar a couple of years ago, it was the add-blocker browser add-in I was running and not a forum issue. Instead of removing the ad completely, it was showing white space of the dimensions set for the ad...If you have an add-blocker running, as a first step, temporarily white-list NGF so that the ads show - if they fill the space that's your culprit...
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Ed on August 03, 2023, 12:12:29 PM
Quote from: PLD on August 03, 2023, 12:07:47 PM
Quote from: Bealman on August 03, 2023, 07:57:49 AMI'm still getting that huge expanse of nothing between the banner and the forum itself on my laptop (phone ok).

Sounds trivial, but it is becoming very annoying as it happens everytime I look at a post.

Anyone got a solution?  :hmmm:
When I had similar a couple of years ago, it was the add-blocker browser add-in I was running and not a forum issue. Instead of removing the ad completely, it was showing white space of the dimensions set for the ad...If you have an add-blocker running, as a first step, temporarily white-list NGF so that the ads show - if they fill the space that's your culprit...

Good point, although I have add blocking software running in both Edge and Firefox and not getting this blank area.

Certainly worth trying turning it off though along with any other browser add-ins.


Ed
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Steven B on August 03, 2023, 01:27:02 PM
Quote from: ntpntpntp on August 03, 2023, 10:27:11 AMI never log out though, can't think of any reason why?

I usually access the forum from a shared PC.


Steven B.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on August 03, 2023, 01:38:48 PM
Quote from: Steven B on August 03, 2023, 01:27:02 PM
Quote from: ntpntpntp on August 03, 2023, 10:27:11 AMI never log out though, can't think of any reason why?

I usually access the forum from a shared PC.


Steven B.

Separate logins on the PC? That should keep the browser stored data separate. That's how we do it with all the family PCs here, though mostly we stick to "our" PCs anyone can in theory use any device (as the admin I know all the passwords of course :) )
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Papyrus on August 03, 2023, 03:58:34 PM
Very very minor issue, but it would be nice to have members' locations displayed again. Sad, I know, but I do like to see where people are in the world...

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Hiawatha on August 03, 2023, 07:43:36 PM
Bealman, can you update your Firefox to the current version or is your OS no longer supported? I have the same empty space on my old Firefox on an older iMac, but on my newer Apple with the current Firefox the site displays correctly.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on August 04, 2023, 04:41:43 AM
Thanks for the replies!

I'm on phone at moment (my usual way of checking forum when I'm out), so I don't know if I have an ad blocker running or not - I'll check.

My OS is most definitely obsolete - the laptop runs Vista!!
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: chrism on August 04, 2023, 06:17:53 AM
Tried turning my adblocker off but it made no difference.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Hiawatha on August 04, 2023, 06:43:18 AM
As the empty space varies it has nothing to do with the set space for ads. The size seems to depend on the length (or height) of the posts: If there are posts containing photos, the empty space increases. When there are just posts with little text, the space above is less. The posts always start about where the scrollbar is in the middle of the height.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on August 04, 2023, 12:27:02 PM
When editing a post, to add a tag for example, typing '@ + 3 letters' does not bring the drop down menu to choose from so you have to type the whole tag and so I'm unsure whether that tag then works :uneasy:  @Bealman

Edit:- I've amended the post with George's tag so if he spots it could he let me know and then we know it does work
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on August 04, 2023, 02:26:34 PM
I just keep typing after the "@"  until the desired member name comes up. It does work, though names with spaces in are a nuisance  :)    Alternatively if you're tagging someone in an earlier post on the same thread I just scroll a bit to their post and copy the user name, paste after the "@".

Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on August 04, 2023, 03:45:23 PM
Quote from: ntpntpntp on August 04, 2023, 02:26:34 PMI just keep typing after the "@"  until the desired member name comes up. It does work, though names with spaces in are a nuisance  :)    Alternatively if you're tagging someone in an earlier post on the same thread I just scroll a bit to their post and copy the user name, paste after the "@".



Not what I'm saying, Nick :no:
That works in a 'normal' post but if you forget the tag and go back in to put the tag in via "Quick Edit" no amount of typing after the '@' brings up names. We'll find out if Bealman spots the tag in the edited post above
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on August 04, 2023, 03:54:38 PM
@Newportnobby   ah I see what you mean, but then again Quick Edit doesn't offer the emojis nor the Add Image functionality.  That's why I tend to use "Modify" unless I know it's just to correct a typo. Tagging etc. works fine in the full editor.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Browning 9mm on August 04, 2023, 05:49:06 PM
are more works being carried out ?

tried to access 'my posts', after nearly 2 minutes got this

Temporarily Unavailable
Due to high stress on the server the forum is temporarily unavailable. Please try again later.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: dannyboy on August 04, 2023, 05:52:10 PM
I have had that message a few times in the last couple of days Alan and the forum seems very slow at times.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on August 05, 2023, 12:54:09 AM
Yeah, Mick, I spotted it, but only because I happened to be looking at this thread. I have had no notification that I'd been tagged by the forum or by email. The last notification I got was a tag by Trainfish on July 8th. So it's not really working, is it?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on August 05, 2023, 08:53:27 AM
Thanks, George. I'll just have to remember if I forget a tag to use 'Modify' and not 'Quick Edit'.
Evidently 'Quick Reply' has similar limitations over just 'Reply'
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on August 05, 2023, 09:08:39 AM
Try it again then
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Train Waiting on August 05, 2023, 09:26:25 AM
Quote from: dannyboy on August 04, 2023, 05:52:10 PMI have had that message a few times in the last couple of days Alan and the forum seems very slow at times.

I've had the message as well.  And I have noticed that we often appear to have a large number of 'Guests' on the parts of our FabulousForum where they are allowed.  My guess is these mostly aren't people but are other computers searching for information.  I know almost nothing about the technology but I think they are called 'Robots' and are notorious for slowing websites down.

As we have moved to another server recently, they might be especially interested in us.

Hopefully, someone more knowledgeable (which doesn't narrow the field much, if at all!) will be able to elucidate.

With best wishes

John
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on August 05, 2023, 09:46:57 AM
Yes, all sorts of things happening here, and having been burnt on the phone in the UK, I'm very wary of replying to anything!
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bigmac on August 05, 2023, 10:02:28 AM
ive had a pop up to say ive had a private message--but i cant see any way of opening any message.

i am expecting one--so if member has messaged me--sorry--cant reply yet.

Also--is there a way to increase the colour density of the font used--its very pale and difficult to read.

and finally....iiiiiiiiiiitttttttttttttttssssssssssss soooooooooooo slooooooooooooow to loadddddddddd tooooooooooooooday.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Nbodger on August 05, 2023, 10:12:20 AM
Quote from: Bigmac on August 05, 2023, 10:02:28 AMive had a pop up to say ive had a private message--but i cant see any way of opening any message.

Top of screen above the NGF Banner, you have three icons, the middle one is messages
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on August 05, 2023, 10:20:11 AM
Quote from: Bigmac on August 05, 2023, 10:02:28 AMive had a pop up to say ive had a private message--but i cant see any way of opening any message.

"My Messages" link right at the top of the page in between your profile name and options and "Alerts".

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/134/medium_5885-050823101445.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=134531)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Browning 9mm on August 05, 2023, 10:28:27 AM
don't know if it is just me, but really slow today.
just over a minute to go from page 20 to page 21, and nearly as long to react to clicking the 'reply' button.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on August 05, 2023, 10:56:13 AM
Certainly having slow moments, must be the bots being too nosey again  :worried:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Trainfish on August 05, 2023, 11:01:49 AM
Quote from: Bigmac on August 05, 2023, 10:02:28 AMAlso--is there a way to increase the colour density of the font used--its very pale and difficult to read.


I agree. I think the font in people's posts is a shade of grey whereas the text while I am typing here shows up black. It would be better if it was black everywhere.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on August 05, 2023, 11:18:05 AM
The font looks black to me, just a different style to that used in the text editor. 
Wouldn't want general post text to become too thick and similar to bold text
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Ed on August 05, 2023, 11:25:12 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on August 05, 2023, 11:01:49 AM
Quote from: Bigmac on August 05, 2023, 10:02:28 AMAlso--is there a way to increase the colour density of the font used--its very pale and difficult to read.


I agree. I think the font in people's posts is a shade of grey whereas the text while I am typing here shows up black. It would be better if it was black everywhere.

Try increasing your browser zoom level for the forum page, I've made it 110% and it makes the font appear a bit darker.


Ed
 
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on August 05, 2023, 11:27:42 AM
Forum slow and stressed - a bit like me when I've tried 3 times to make a post
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Trainfish on August 05, 2023, 11:39:44 AM
Quote from: Ed on August 05, 2023, 11:25:12 AMTry increasing your browser zoom level for the forum page, I've made it 110% and it makes the font appear a bit darker.


Ed
 

I have been doing that anyway but it would be nice if it was easy in the first place like most other sites.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Browning 9mm on August 05, 2023, 11:53:25 AM
If as suggested it it the 'guests' causing the problems, might it be an idea to have all guests have to sign in.
this happens on a wargames site I use, and seems to stop this.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Papyrus on August 05, 2023, 02:56:08 PM
No issues with speed here at Papyrus Acres...

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Browning 9mm on August 05, 2023, 03:16:09 PM
yet again,
Temporarily Unavailable
Due to high stress on the server the forum is temporarily unavailable. Please try again later.

didn't get this before the so called upgrade. :censored:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bob Tidbury on August 05, 2023, 04:38:08 PM
No problem here in High Wycombe speed OK and no problem accessing messages .
Bob Tidbury .
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Papyrus on August 05, 2023, 04:53:56 PM
879 'guests' at present which does seem an awful lot. How can you tell if they are all legit?

Cheers,

Chris

PS. It's shooting up as you watch. 908 now.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: RBTKraisee on August 05, 2023, 04:59:51 PM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on August 05, 2023, 11:53:25 AMIf as suggested it it the 'guests' causing the problems, might it be an idea to have all guests have to sign in.
this happens on a wargames site I use, and seems to stop this.

I would second that. There are a few threads available without logging in, but bots abuse such systems and I'm all for just putting up a simple fence and gate to keep them at bay.

I would just move all the threads and sections behind the login.

Ross.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Roy L S on August 05, 2023, 06:50:52 PM
I had the message about the "stressed server" several times yesterday and then again earlier on today. It does seem that we have an awful lot of "guests" logged on as opposed to members (over 900 just now and only 40 members). I agree with what Ross and others have suggested, and have everyone sign in.

Also, "guests" seem to be able to view a quite number of topics/threads at the moment and given the minimal amount a "guest" used to be able to see I was wondering if as an unintended outcome of the upgrade the rules have inadvertently been changed?

Roy
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: JBQFC on August 05, 2023, 07:31:49 PM
been very slow all day for me in Crawley

John
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bigmac on August 05, 2023, 07:50:33 PM
Quote from: Nbodger on August 05, 2023, 10:12:20 AM
Quote from: Bigmac on August 05, 2023, 10:02:28 AMive had a pop up to say ive had a private message--but i cant see any way of opening any message.

Top of screen above the NGF Banner, you have three icons, the middle one is messages

thanks for that--got it now.

P>S--could you leave me your username in your will ?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: RBTKraisee on August 05, 2023, 08:51:13 PM
Right now over 1,000 guests. Only 59 actual users logged in.

Ross.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: RBTKraisee on August 05, 2023, 09:51:26 PM
If it helps @Tank or @NGFTech - the sections that are still showing BEFORE you have to login are as follows:

General Category
 N Gauge Discussion
 General Discussion

Notices, Help With Problems and Your Forum Ideas...
 Notices
 Computer Help
 Forum Ideas and Problems

Classifieds
 NGF and 3DR 3D Printed Products

Cheers,

Ross.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Browning 9mm on August 06, 2023, 08:12:58 AM
forum really fast so far this morning.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Firstone18 on August 06, 2023, 09:17:50 AM
To all involved in recent change to the forum - very well done! I find the forum a wonderful resource, and a way I can pass on what little knowledge I have to all other N Gauge enthusiasts. I must also say I find the default text font easier to read, it reminds me of one of the early fonts when there was not so many to choose from!
Thank you for all your effort running this forum.
Cheers
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Browning 9mm on August 06, 2023, 11:08:29 AM
seems to be slowing down again, but with 887 'guests' and only 50 users logged on, that is no surprise.

is there any problem with, as I and others have suggested, getting 'guests' to log in ?
it seems that 'guests' seem to have far more access than before the upgrade, is this the problem, or is it that 'bots' are looking at / slowing down the forum.?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on August 06, 2023, 11:21:46 AM
Morning all,

Sorry, I haven't been on much the last week.  I've been needed at home a lot.

So, there are some errors on the forum that are slowing the forum down.  This seems to be at certain periods of the day and not all of the time.  Trying pinpoint these is quite hard.  I'll work with NGF Tech and our hosting company to figure out what they are.

Thanks for your continued support.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Browning 9mm on August 06, 2023, 01:06:57 PM
yet again

Temporarily Unavailable
Due to high stress on the server the forum is temporarily unavailable. Please try again later.

I do not ever remember this on the old forum.

did something in the 'upgrade' open the door to problems ?

more 'guests' and to my mind less members seems to suggest members can't log in, for what ever reason.

I sincerely hope this is being investigated / addressed by those IT professionals, otherwise I can see members getting seriously upset, and not bothering to even try to log in.

was this not foreseen, or was the upgrade just gone ahead with willy nilly ?

with22 pages of forum issues, it seems that this upgrade has not been a great success.

Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: dannyboy on August 06, 2023, 01:22:50 PM
There has certainly been some problems over the last couple of hours - 'server stress' appearing often and pages taking minutes to load, if at all. I suppose we just have to be patient and hope the problems can be sorted out.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Trainfish on August 06, 2023, 01:27:49 PM
I tried replying to this 5 minutes ago (using post reply rather than quick reply) and got the same message. Now that I have returned it took around 30 seconds to actually bring up this reply box. I'm sure @Tank will soon get fed up hearing about this so I apologise in advance. Also when I just tagged Tank, hopefully I did anyway, I didn't get any member name suggestions whilst typing his name. I thought this was an issue before and had been addressed. I'm sure Mick won't mind so I'll try tagging him too now and see what happens. Here you go @Newportnobby Again, no options offered, did you receive a notification Mick?

As far as the number of guests go and the bots, I'm pretty sure these are linked as in the bots could be showing up as guests. As much as it would be good to allow guests to view the forum and possibly join I do think a log-in should be required now even if it is a temporary fix to give the guys some time to look into the issue.

Just trying to be constructive here.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Browning 9mm on August 06, 2023, 02:18:20 PM
for the last 10 minutes the site has, as so often, been under stress and unavailable.

having finally be able to get in, I am stressed, and will now be unavailable.
logging out, while I can possibly still do so.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Ed on August 06, 2023, 02:29:19 PM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on August 06, 2023, 02:18:20 PMfor the last 10 minutes the site has, as so often, been under stress and unavailable.

having finally be able to get in, I am stressed, and will now be unavailable.
logging out, while I can possibly still do so.



See post #322

Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on August 06, 2023, 05:09:16 PM
@Trainfish No notification received but if you used "Quick Reply" then tags don't work.
If a mandatory login is what is necessary to maintain the sanity (?) of actual forum members then so be it - make it so as Jean-Luc would say. At present any enjoyment in the forum is negated by what's happening
I've tried 3 times to reply but each time I hit 'Post' up comes the stressed out forum bit
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: PLD on August 06, 2023, 05:33:42 PM
The only times I'm seeing the "Server under Stress" message is with either "Updated Posts" or "Unread Posts" lists. i.e. when It's having to do a search through all threads.
That potentially points towards the database not being optimised for that type of search - maybe an indexing issue?? :hmmm:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Nbodger on August 06, 2023, 06:26:45 PM
Quote from: PLD on August 06, 2023, 05:33:42 PMThe only times I'm seeing the "Server under Stress" message is with either "Updated Posts" or "Unread Posts" lists. i.e. when It's having to do a search through all threads.
That potentially points towards the database not being optimised for that type of search - maybe an indexing issue?? :hmmm:

I agree it is a frequent situation but not the only one, I have also encounted when logging in, moving from page to page in a thread and when accessing posts from the unread lists.

there are frequent times when it takes 30 plus seconds between actions, which make it virtually unusable, then other times it is very quick.
 
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Malc-c on August 06, 2023, 09:34:45 PM
I get the "Temporarily Unavailable
Due to high stress on the server the forum is temporarily unavailable. Please try again later."  page when simply accessing the site via a bookmark in Chrome.  Happens three out of four visits a day.

I've also lost posts... either after spending 20 minutes to write the post and include images (via the old clunky method of providing a description and location in the pop up window) and then when I hit post I get the "stress message" above, or it just simply displays the same edit screen as if a new post was posted whilst I was writing, or it just vanishes.

Whilst migrating servers isn't easy (trust me I've been there and have the tee shirt) - the number of faults mentioned here, and the time elapsed since the migration gives me some concerns.  The idea of any upgrade is to make things easier for those maintaining it, and a better experience for the user, neither of these seem to be the case here (Sorry Tank).

The high number of "guests" are more likely bots and not true guests.  If that is the cause for the server struggling then changing access to make the forum available to members only via the login may be the best way forward, at least until the support form the hosting company can figure out an alternative.

Or it could be that the traffic is just too much for the Sinclair Spectrum, and a 64K ram pack is needed  :laugh:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Malc-c on August 06, 2023, 09:40:18 PM
Moments after posting that post I clicked "reply" to add a further post to inform you that the post above took almost 2 minutes to actually post as it sat there "waiting for ngaugeforum.co.uk" before doing so.  When I hit the reply button I got the "temporary unavailable"message again...

I'm now resorting to copying my post before hitting the post button so that if it does fall over I can paste the reply in again - just to be on the safe side !
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Nbodger on August 06, 2023, 10:04:21 PM
Quote from: Malc-c on August 06, 2023, 09:34:45 PMI've also lost posts... either after spending 20 minutes to write the post and include images (via the old clunky method of providing a description and location in the pop up window) and then when I hit post I get the "stress message" above, or it just simply displays the same edit screen as if a new post was posted whilst I was writing, or it just vanishes.


@Malc-c Just a suggestion why not drag and drop your photographs using the bulk upload in the gallery, no additional name required as it takes the file name. Then just copy the BB code and paste into your post.

On long complicated posts I usually create in Word, pasting the BB code for photographs into the document.

When complete copy and paste into the relevant thread reply box, followd by any highlighting and emoji's required.

Hope this makes sense and helps

Mike H
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Railwaygun on August 07, 2023, 12:43:59 AM
We currently have 976  "guests"( 1230am ) & 20 registered users - sounds like a Bot attack  to me?

I think that temporary registration and a  Captcha might sift a lot out!

It's no wonder the forum has been slow!
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Trainfish on August 07, 2023, 01:41:32 AM
As of now at 01:35 when most UK users are in bed:

Users Online
Online: 978 Guests, 17 Users (0 Buddies)  - Most Online Today: 1,030 -  Most Online Ever: 3,056 (January 20, 2020, 11:38:07 PM)

I would put @Newportnobby's life savings on it that it's a bot issue as I mentuioned a few posts back and maybe others did previously.

I really think we need to have a mandatory sign-in for the short term. This will also tell us if the new software is up to the job when coping with just signed-in members. I'm sure it will be.

Quote from: Newportnobby on August 06, 2023, 05:09:16 PM@Trainfish No notification received but if you used "Quick Reply" then tags don't work.

I appreciate that mate but I wasn't using the quick reply option. I just used the same method for this response and it worked fine to tag you into this on this occasion.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Malc-c on August 07, 2023, 08:21:13 AM
Quote from: Nbodger on August 06, 2023, 10:04:21 PM
Quote from: Malc-c on August 06, 2023, 09:34:45 PMI've also lost posts... either after spending 20 minutes to write the post and include images (via the old clunky method of providing a description and location in the pop up window) and then when I hit post I get the "stress message" above, or it just simply displays the same edit screen as if a new post was posted whilst I was writing, or it just vanishes.


@Malc-c Just a suggestion why not drag and drop your photographs using the bulk upload in the gallery, no additional name required as it takes the file name. Then just copy the BB code and paste into your post.

On long complicated posts I usually create in Word, pasting the BB code for photographs into the document.

When complete copy and paste into the relevant thread reply box, followd by any highlighting and emoji's required.

Hope this makes sense and helps

Mike H

Mike, thanks for the suggestion.  However, most of the other forums I frequent either bring up the usual windows explorer to navigate and select an image, or (and most common) simply drag the image from the location to post which inserts the image at the point of the cursor.

It's a long time since I was involved with servers but I would have thought an SQL server would be able to deal with a 1000 connection unless the hardware has been seriously downgraded as part of the drive to keep the monthly costs manageable.

I'm hoping the tech support give Tank the support he needs to get this forum back to the standard we all came to accept.  Whilst there may be an inconvenience to the members if some form of forced login or captcha, if it resolves the server crashing or makes the user experience less frustrating I'm all for that
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on August 07, 2023, 09:35:52 AM
With the techie being in Trinidad there's a big time difference so Tank won't be able to contact them until maybe lunch today or after
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on August 07, 2023, 09:55:01 AM
I have to say the forum has been tazzing along over the last 20 minutes :thumbsup:
There - that's put the kiss of death on it :doh:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: dannyboy on August 07, 2023, 10:08:12 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on August 07, 2023, 09:55:01 AMI have to say the forum has been tazzing along over the last 20 minutes :thumbsup:

I logged in about 30 minutes ago and agree with Mick @Newportnobby - tazzing along!  :) Incidentally, when tagging Mick, I typed '@'followed by 'Newp' and Micks tag showed!  :thumbsup:

Oh oh, when I hit the 'Preview' button, it took about 30 seconds for the preview to appear ......
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: emjaybee on August 07, 2023, 10:30:48 AM
I've also had slow time, fast time.

But to be fair, we were warned that following the server move, and the upgrade that there would be an unstable period whilst things were added and gremlins eliminated. Don't forget @Tank is a fully employed family man to boot.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on August 07, 2023, 11:07:47 AM
Quote from: emjaybee on August 07, 2023, 10:30:48 AMDon't forget @Tank is a fully employed family man to boot.

I don't think anyone has mentioned kicking the poor bloke :no:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: OffshoreAlan on August 07, 2023, 09:31:47 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on August 07, 2023, 10:08:12 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on August 07, 2023, 09:55:01 AMI have to say the forum has been tazzing along over the last 20 minutes :thumbsup:

I logged in about 30 minutes ago and agree with Mick @Newportnobby - tazzing along!  :) Incidentally, when tagging Mick, I typed '@'followed by 'Newp' and Micks tag showed!  :thumbsup:

Oh oh, when I hit the 'Preview' button, it took about 30 seconds for the preview to appear ......

You're lucky - it took me 42 seconds. And a search bomb out completely "Server stretched" or something similar
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Steven B on August 08, 2023, 08:43:56 AM
>30 seconds to load pages at the moment - yesterday, the top menu to access account settings and log-out was taking a similar length of time to open.

Another shilling needed for the meter I think.


Steven B
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Ed on August 08, 2023, 09:09:26 AM
There were five new posts in the Layout Construction board that didn't show up when I selected Unread Posts or Unread Topics, this morning.

They were for 'Poppingham - a Table-Top Railway in British 'N' Gauge', 'Northbridge - 1960s BR(WR)', 'Perthshire Railway Preservation Society', 'Hilsden' and 'Perranwell Station', posted between 10:54pm and 11:37pm last night.

I only found these new unread posts as I got an email alert about a new reply to 'Poppingham' and went searching around.

Screen shot of the two I've not yet read.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/134/9362-080823090558.jpeg)

Wonder how many other people are not seeing new posts when selecting Unread Posts?


Ed
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Browning 9mm on August 08, 2023, 09:25:08 AM
1. I don't think it is fair to lay the blame at @Tank 's door. he decided to improve the forum by [a] moving to another server, and   upgrading the forum program.
I don't think he sat at his kitchen table and wrote the new codes himself.
2. by my understanding, and please correct / educate my if I am wrong, a server is a server is a server. some have more capacity, and I am assuming the old server was at it's limit, so the forum was moved to one with more capacity.
but, why should this cause problems ?
3. surely, before an upgrade of any program is released, it would be tested and any problems resolved, if this is right, why do there seem to be so many different problems ?
4. why is it that the forum now seems to be so interesting to 'bots' all of a sudden ?
and if these are the cause of the intermittent 'server stress', surely this can be mitigated by either
[a] reducing the access to the forum for guests, they do seem able to access much more than before the upgrade, and
how involved would it be to do as others, and I, have suggest and have guests sign in. on the wargames site I mentioned in my earlier post, you need basically to provide a valid e-mail address which I assume prevents 'bots' from getting in.

all of these are surely the domain of the IT professionals, who are presumably the reason for Tank's massive investment.

just my thoughts, hopefully not a poisoned post.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Browning 9mm on August 08, 2023, 09:29:48 AM
apologies for unintended bold and underlining. did try to remove these using modify, but still there
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Ed on August 08, 2023, 09:36:11 AM
I'm now suddenly getting email alerts for replies to this topic and yet it's set to 'NO ALERTS OR EMAILS'.

Has something been changed overnight?


Ed

Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Browning 9mm on August 08, 2023, 10:00:50 AM
tried to have another go at resolving the bold and underline problem, but could not access my post

An error has occurred
Please try again later. This member's posts are not currently available due to high load on the server.

bots must be back again, as really slow at the moment as well.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: dannyboy on August 08, 2023, 10:02:53 AM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on August 08, 2023, 10:00:50 AMbots must be back again, as really slow at the moment as well.

Have to agree, most things are taking at least 30 seconds to change.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on August 08, 2023, 10:43:30 AM
I'd say there's probably very little point in adding any more "it's slow again" replies now. We know the problem is being looked at, I think wait until @Tank says they think it's fixed and please notify if further problems?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: PLD on August 08, 2023, 11:24:00 AM
Quote from: Ed on August 08, 2023, 09:09:26 AMThere were five new posts in the Layout Construction board that didn't show up when I selected Unread Posts or Unread Topics, this morning.

They were for 'Poppingham - a Table-Top Railway in British 'N' Gauge', 'Northbridge - 1960s BR(WR)', 'Perthshire Railway Preservation Society', 'Hilsden' and 'Perranwell Station', posted between 10:54pm and 11:37pm last night.

I only found these new unread posts as I got an email alert about a new reply to 'Poppingham' and went searching around.

Screen shot of the two I've not yet read.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/134/9362-080823090558.jpeg)

Wonder how many other people are not seeing new posts when selecting Unread Posts?


Ed

See previous half-dozen+ posts explaining the difference between "Recent Unread Posts" and "All Unread Posts"...
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: lil chris on August 08, 2023, 11:25:26 AM
Well this site has gone **** up, 11.20 am and site is unusable. Getter server messages again, site unavailable etc, I give up again.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on August 08, 2023, 11:29:12 AM
I'm sure I'm repeating myself.  :D  I was awaiting an assessment to be made for what causing the problems.  Because there are so many 'add ons' to the forum that we like, it's slowing the forum down.  This is due to bad coding, somewhere.  So, when lots of people access the forum, and the bad codng is using up more resources than is needed, it hugely adds onto the load on the server.

We're working with the developer to try and change this.

I'm so sorry that this is happening.  Believe me, I'm the most annoyed.  The forum was super fast before all of the modifications.  But, as was said above, the forum will take time to iron out all of the errors.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Malc-c on August 08, 2023, 11:50:21 AM
@Tank - Thanks for the update.  Personally if this had happened in a commercial organisation they would have either stress tested the configuration prior to rolling it out, or if that wasn't an option and it went tits up after roll out would have rolled back to the last backup of the old system as soon as the issues were highlighted to mitigate the loss and give some breathing space to investigate what is causing the slow database lookup or which plug in is dragging server performance down.

If the server is being hosed on a virtual server in some data centre then maybe its something to do with how that server was configure (presumably under Hyper V or some other virtualization). 

Hopefully it won't be long before the offending plugin, or script is located and removed / fixed and the experience of using the forum becomes a pleasurable one again.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Ed on August 08, 2023, 12:04:50 PM


See previous half-dozen+ posts explaining the difference between "Recent Unread Posts" and "All Unread Posts"...
[/quote]

Well I must of missed them!

Humor me and please explain where I can find 'All Unread Posts'

Also, I got an email alert saying you'd replied but your reply didn't come up when clicking Unread Posts.


Ed

Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on August 08, 2023, 03:31:34 PM
Hey folks, we are looking into the slow effect.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on August 08, 2023, 05:32:25 PM
Just adjusted the database to stop it 'running away' with the gallery.

It seems to have stopped the slow load.

However, on previous tests this causes problems with posting to the gallery from posts in that the popup box would not auto insert the code for the image you posted into your posts. However, your image would have still made it to the gallery.

Is that true for others?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: cmason on August 08, 2023, 07:45:39 PM
Hope I am not whining too much - and I really appreciate all of @Tank 's hard work on the migration -  but is there a plan to change the layout of the opening page to be similar to the old one? The list of new posts, unread message etc. at the top of the page was really good ( and I might suggest moving the donation button back up somewhere near the top as it was before ), 

Cheers,

Colin.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: cmason on August 08, 2023, 07:47:34 PM
And then I did see (dumbo I am) that there is a small donate link on the top line as well as at the bottom of teh page ... durrrr )
Colin
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on August 08, 2023, 08:45:11 PM
Quote from: cmason on August 08, 2023, 07:47:34 PMAnd then I did see (dumbo I am) that there is a small donate link on the top line as well as at the bottom of teh page ... durrrr )
Colin

LOL  Glad you saw that.  There is an issue with the adverts and banners appearing on the right.  I'm hoping to have that fixed this week by NGF Tech, though he needs the developers of the Ads modification to work with him on it.

I will also ask NGF Tech to reinstate our preferred buttons/links at the top of the forum for Unread Post etc, like it used to be, but in the same place as now.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on August 08, 2023, 11:29:01 PM
Since my last post no one has experienced any slow loading? Is that behind us now?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on August 08, 2023, 11:31:10 PM
Quote from: NGFTech on August 08, 2023, 11:29:01 PMSince my last post no one has experienced any slow loading? Is that behind us now?

I can't speak for anyone else but speed and lack of the forum being too stressed is just fine, thanks
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on August 08, 2023, 11:33:27 PM
@Newportnobby that's good to read. Using it myself and there is no sticking... flowing like water but I do not use the site as intensively as you good people so all your feedback is appreciated.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: RBTKraisee on August 09, 2023, 12:21:27 AM
@NGFTech - No slow loading here today. Hopefully your fix is working! What was the fix?

Thanks for all your help so far - the denizens here all appreciate the hard work you're putting in!

Ross.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: dannyboy on August 09, 2023, 08:38:30 AM
I have just logged in and the site is that fast, it ovetook me! Whatever you have done @NGFTech , it seems to be working well.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: lil chris on August 09, 2023, 09:21:59 AM
Sorry about my last post Tank (Chris) I was getting a little frustrated. Things seem to be improving today, hope the slow loading problems are over, thanks for your efforts. Chris H.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Malc-c on August 09, 2023, 10:56:04 AM
Page created in 0.982 seconds with 40 queries

Says it all really....  Go TechGuy and Tank  :claphappy:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on August 09, 2023, 12:13:40 PM
Glad to read today that the slow go is behind us now. I hope to have a couple of other fixes available later.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: port perran on August 09, 2023, 12:30:35 PM
Quote from: NGFTech on August 09, 2023, 12:13:40 PMGlad to read today that the slow go is behind us now. I hope to have a couple of other fixes available later.
It's whizzing along this morning for me.
Thanks for whatever you have done to speed things up.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 09, 2023, 12:38:54 PM

Thanks for all your help so far - the MEMBERS here all appreciate the hard work you're putting in
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on August 09, 2023, 12:43:02 PM
Quote from: NGFTech on August 08, 2023, 05:32:25 PMJust adjusted the database to stop it 'running away' with the gallery.
...this causes problems with posting to the gallery from posts in that the popup box would not auto insert the code for the image you posted into your posts. However, your image would have still made it to the gallery.

Is that true for others?
Yes I definitely experienced the problem of it not redirecting back to the post with the BB code inserted.  I did discover the post was there in my gallery so just copied the BB code over.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on August 09, 2023, 12:49:33 PM
@ntpntpntp yes, mentioned this earlier as one of the things to be fixed as a result of making things faster. For now please use the "reply" button rather than the quick reply.
Title: Re: Forum Issues - Captcha
Post by: Railwaygun on August 09, 2023, 01:18:09 PM
This suggests That the new version has a Captcha for new members??

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=61995.0;topicseen
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: cmason on August 09, 2023, 03:12:30 PM
Quote from: Tank on August 08, 2023, 08:45:11 PM
Quote from: cmason on August 08, 2023, 07:47:34 PMAnd then I did see (dumbo I am) that there is a small donate link on the top line as well as at the bottom of teh page ... durrrr )
Colin

LOL  Glad you saw that.  There is an issue with the adverts and banners appearing on the right.  I'm hoping to have that fixed this week by NGF Tech, though he needs the developers of the Ads modification to work with him on it.

I will also ask NGF Tech to reinstate our preferred buttons/links at the top of the forum for Unread Post etc, like it used to be, but in the same place as now.

Hope that helps.

Thanks Tank - anyway not complaining - your efforts are hugely appreciated!
Colin
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Browning 9mm on August 09, 2023, 03:40:20 PM
used to stay logged in forever, but with the recent problems have been logging in, reading what I wanted, and then logging out again.

third log in today, and warp speed  :claphappy:

did notice earlier there were 1026 guests and 59 users, but this did not seem to be causing the slowness we were becoming used to.
wonder how many of the 1026 were actually guest, and how many botskis.

regardless, a massive improvement, ans a big  :thankyousign:  :thankyousign: to those responsible.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: AdeV on August 09, 2023, 03:59:20 PM
If it's any consolation - it's not just this forum that's having had problems:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/134/10431-090823155822.png)

 :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: lil chris on August 09, 2023, 06:02:23 PM
Hi there is there anyway to reinstate the old way of logging out. The new way ie clicking on your name then click log out seems a little long winded, especially when the site was running slow. Hopefully that will not happen again, but you never know. Any way thanks for efforts. Chris H.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bigmac on August 09, 2023, 07:06:03 PM
Quote from: lil chris on August 09, 2023, 06:02:23 PMHi there is there anyway to reinstate the old way of logging out. The new way ie clicking on your name then click log out seems a little long winded, especially when the site was running slow. Hopefully that will not happen again, but you never know. Any way thanks for efforts. Chris H.

why log out ?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on August 09, 2023, 07:25:12 PM
@Bigmac I've asked that before of someone asking about logging out, I think they said they used a shared computer but not separate accounts? It's only a hobby forum so nothing sensitive (unless you don't want the other half to know how much you're spending on toy trains  :D  ), but whatever.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on August 09, 2023, 09:53:34 PM
Under the old server you could tell whether you had tagged someone as the font changed to blue and, I think, was underlined too. Following the update the type face and colour is identical to the rest of the post so difficult to see at a glance.
Could the tag be somehow highlighted please?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on August 10, 2023, 06:05:57 AM
Has something happened to the 'Messages' box or have I inadvertently changed a setting. The lower half with all the messages seems to have moved to the right.....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/134/264-100823060338-134691719.png)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on August 10, 2023, 06:45:38 AM
Mine are ok, on me phone at any rate.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: lil chris on August 10, 2023, 10:24:28 AM
The reason I want to log out is sometimes I use different devices, currently I am on my I pad. When I go up to the railway room I use a windows pc. By the way I want to point out about one of my previous posts about the site being slow, I had not read the previous posts about the problems because the site had locked up, I have apologised anyway. Chris H.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on August 10, 2023, 11:32:14 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on August 10, 2023, 06:05:57 AMHas something happened to the 'Messages' box or have I inadvertently changed a setting. The lower half with all the messages seems to have moved to the right.....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/134/264-100823060338-134691719.png)

Stand down. Someone who shall remain nameless sent me a message with a humongous link that hadn't wrapped so pushed the text box waaaayyyyyy across to the right. Deleted it and all is well again :)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on August 10, 2023, 12:41:28 PM
I cleared the cache so hopefully those on desktop see the right tower with donation box and those on mobile do not.

Desktop:
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/134/5408-100823124041.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=134717)

Mobile:


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/134/5408-100823124122.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=134718)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on August 10, 2023, 04:26:26 PM
Quote from: lil chris on August 10, 2023, 10:24:28 AMThe reason I want to log out is sometimes I use different devices...

I use 3 different PCs depending on where I am in the house.  I never log any of them out of the NGF  :)   
No big deal if you prefer to log out, just for most of us there is probably no advantage in doing so.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on August 10, 2023, 06:20:14 PM
er... I see the new message in the Quick Reply post editor saying to use the Reply button to add images, but... the "Add Image to post..." link has now gone from the editor presented by the Reply button. Instead it says the same "use the Reply" button  message but I HAVE  ???   Can this be put back how it was please?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on August 10, 2023, 09:02:22 PM
@ntpntpntp It has not gone anywhere. You're probably just looking in the wrong place.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/134/5408-100823210209.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=134732)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Nbodger on August 10, 2023, 09:13:13 PM
Quote from: NGFTech on August 10, 2023, 09:02:22 PM@ntpntpntp It has not gone anywhere. You're probably just looking in the wrong place.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/134/5408-100823210209.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=134732)


The link for posting images no longer exists under the REPLY button
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on August 10, 2023, 09:14:48 PM
@NGFTech That message is now very misleading. Fair enough that in the Quick Reply editor you need to be instructed to use Reply, but when you're actually on the Reply edit page. It still says to use the Reply button which of course starts a new reply and so you go round in circles. 

The old message "Add image to post and upload to gallery" is what that link actually does (at least from the Reply page) and therefore what the text needs to say.

Is the problem that the same piece of text (as an active link) is used on both editor panels?

Maybe it needs to say something like "Click here to add an image (but only if used from the Reply page)"
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bigmac on August 10, 2023, 09:31:12 PM
what is the purpose of the large parentheses symbols on the home page ? Most are orange and pale blue-some are half orange, while a few are ghostly pale ?

Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on August 10, 2023, 09:38:06 PM
@Bigmac   ?? I'm not seeing any large colourful parentheses on the home page? It all looks pretty normal to me.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bigmac on August 10, 2023, 09:55:56 PM
Quote from: ntpntpntp on August 10, 2023, 09:38:06 PM@Bigmac   ?? I'm not seeing any large colourful parentheses on the home page? It all looks pretty normal to me.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/134/medium_847-100823215432.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=134733)

to post that i had to go through the whole process of uploading a photo i took on my phone and hit the link in the gallery--while waiting for all the "site cant be reached " nonsense.

why cant i just copy / paste photos like i can on all other forums ?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on August 10, 2023, 10:00:12 PM
Forum timed out before I could access it this evening.
Forum running 'slow, slow, quick, quick, slow'
Just hit 'Post' and was thrown out. Luckily refreshing the forum site showed that post had been accepted before I was ejected

Edit:- just timed out again and some 'ratings' are taking a long time
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on August 10, 2023, 10:14:23 PM
@ntpntpntp I understand what you are saying. Some of these issues are related to how things were coded. I'm awaiting word from the boss on how he wants it handled.

@Newportnobby just noticed that and finding out from the host if it is a network issue. Seems to be steady now.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on August 10, 2023, 10:24:44 PM
@Bigmac   oh, I guess you mean the speech balloons - nothing to do with parentheses (bracket symbols)  :D

If you hover over the balloons it says:  pale = "no new posts", blue/orange = " new posts". 

However they don't seem to be at all consistent as I can see pale balloons for categories which have new posts today, and coloured balloons for categories which haven't had new posts.  Maybe another forum feature not quite fully working yet?   

Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: AdeV on August 10, 2023, 10:29:57 PM
Quote from: Bigmac on August 10, 2023, 09:55:56 PM(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/134/medium_847-100823215432.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=134733)


The bigger "quote" (or parentheses) tells you if there are new posts in that board: Dark = yes, light = no.

The smaller one, is either pale or orange: It tells you if there are new posts in a sub-board.

e.g. I'm currently seeing no new posts in General, but some new posts in Jokes & Other Hobbies; so it looks like the right-most image in your picture.

Seems there are three "states":

- Dark blue + orange = new posts in that board (and maybe in the sub-boards, maybe not)
- Light blue + orange = new posts in a sub-board, but NOT the main board
- Light blue + light blue = no new posts in that board or any of its sub-boards (if any).


Quote from: Bigmac on August 10, 2023, 09:55:56 PMwhy cant i just copy / paste photos like i can on all other forums ?

There's lots of different software out there, with lots of different capabilities. The Simple Machines forum isn't the most feature-packed (especially the editor, which is a constant source of annoyance in my experience), but it has the advantage of being generally extremely good, and free. Unlike, say, vBulletin or phpBB.

So - short answer? Because the software this forum is run on does not allow it. It never has done. It may do one day in the future... but who knows?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on August 10, 2023, 10:31:21 PM
Quote from: Bigmac on August 10, 2023, 09:55:56 PMwhy cant i just copy / paste photos like i can on all other forums ?
Whilst that would be useful I fear it wouldn't support adding to a gallery. The gallery is great as you can add titles and descriptions to help find an image again or for someone when they're browsing through the gallery, you can go in and replace with a new image (for example if I decide to crop, enhance or annotate something), and images in the gallery can be re-used in later posts using the BBCode links.  I do that a lot with certain images which illustrate something I may be discussing/advising on in a thread.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on August 10, 2023, 10:34:36 PM
Yes, the gallery (I prefer "album") is handy for that. I do the same on occasion.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Dorsetmike on August 10, 2023, 11:09:54 PM
If you click on [REPLY] in that "NOTE if you want .......instead" message at the top of the reply above the smilies and B I U etc you get the add image box.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on August 11, 2023, 06:35:45 PM
Just to confirm again....

The gallery is temporary at the moment.  We're looking at extra features being added, which means working with the author.

The message about clicking Reply to upload images is just temporary.  Again, until the author can sort out the coding.

@Bigmac I explained before that these are temporary and I hope to get the originals put back on here. :thumbsup:

Logging Out Button:  That's how it is now I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on August 12, 2023, 03:59:30 PM
Hey folks, just checking in today. Since my last post all pages are running with speed, correct?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Trainfish on August 12, 2023, 04:02:15 PM
Unfortunately even the groaner page is running at speed. Oh well.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: dannyboy on August 12, 2023, 04:07:41 PM
I've just tested that page. @Trainfish  is correct!  ;)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Nbodger on August 12, 2023, 04:30:52 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on August 12, 2023, 04:07:41 PMI've just tested that page. @Trainfish  is correct!  ;)

Why would you do that!
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Browning 9mm on August 12, 2023, 04:56:12 PM
just following the flock  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on August 12, 2023, 05:02:04 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on August 12, 2023, 04:02:15 PMUnfortunately even the groaner page is running at speed. Oh well.

Just as well. Who'd want to be stuck on that page waiting for the next one to come up :worried:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: dannyboy on August 12, 2023, 06:50:24 PM
Quote from: Nbodger on August 12, 2023, 04:30:52 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on August 12, 2023, 04:07:41 PMI've just tested that page. @Trainfish  is correct!  ;)

Why would you do that!
Just checking, I would hate for you to miss anything.  ;)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: RBTKraisee on August 12, 2023, 07:25:49 PM
Not sure if it has been mentioned previously but the text size function isn't working properly in posts when combined with other things like colour and centering.

[size=8]
This line is an example!
[/size]

Ross.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on August 12, 2023, 08:17:36 PM
Testing font size

Works for me... might be a settings policy and not that it isn't working.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: RBTKraisee on August 12, 2023, 08:24:42 PM
Quote from: NGFTech on August 12, 2023, 08:17:36 PMTesting font size

Works for me... might be a settings policy and not that it isn't working.

Try it with some other effects. Center it and change the colour - that definitely breaks it :)

Ross.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Nbodger on August 12, 2023, 08:29:10 PM
Ross @RBTKraisee ,

You need to re-highlight between each action, where as before the highlighting stayed allowing you to do more than one action.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: RBTKraisee on August 12, 2023, 08:33:18 PM
Separate question...

Images in my posts using the "BB Code" link in the gallery (shown in green oval below) used to be clickable and a larger version would popup. That isn't happening any longer. Is there a tweak you can do to put that functionality back?

I can make new images work by using the "Medium" option in the five different types of code that are listed in the gallery (red oval below), but for all my old posts, nobody can open the larger versions of the pictures any longer.

Cheers,

Ross.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/134/medium_8374-120823203248-1347611424.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=134762)

---=== B Minus 3 Days ===---
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: icairns on August 12, 2023, 08:38:37 PM
In the previous version of the Forum, when I created a new post, and also when I posted on another member's thread, I used to get an email notifying me of new posts on these two types of threads. I no longer get these email notifications.

Presumably, my account settings on the new version of the Forum are not allowing this.  I have tried adjusting things, but no success so far.

Can someone please provide step-by-step instructions on how to correct this so I get email notifications on future posts (on the threads I have created or posted on).

Thank you in advance.

Ian
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on August 12, 2023, 08:42:30 PM
I noticed that problem with older posts and existing images too. 

I've been using the BB Medium Image link for all new stuff.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: PLD on August 12, 2023, 11:19:51 PM
Quote from: RBTKraisee on August 12, 2023, 07:25:49 PMNot sure if it has been mentioned previously but the text size function isn't working properly in posts when combined with other things like colour and centering.

[size=8]This line is an example![/size]


Ross.
I think Ross, the only issue is you are trying to apply font size 8 but it now only goes up to 7!

Not applicable in this case, but I've seen it before on another forum that the order of the tags matters for certain things... Centre Alignment needs to be the outer tag then IIRC text size next after that...

so (without the extra spaces) [ center ][ size=7 ][ b ][ color=blue ]TESTING[ /color ][ /b ][ /size ][ /center ] gives me:
TESTING
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: RBTKraisee on August 12, 2023, 11:55:42 PM
The wonders of modern technology, eh? :D

Thanks for the tips!

Ross.

---=== B Minus 3 Days ===---
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on August 13, 2023, 01:08:51 AM
All this is doing my head in. This old fart is just waiting until things settle down and hopefully go back to the forum of old.

Go Matildas!
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: chrism on August 16, 2023, 10:56:08 AM
As has previously been reported, some of us are getting a huge space between the site header image and the content of any forum page - the content starting roughly halfway down the browser screen.
I've been having a little play to try and identify what the cause could be, in the hope that the tech guys can resolve it. The issue is certainly browser dependent, in that it appears in my prefered Seamonkey browser, and whatever browser @Bealman uses, but doesn't in either Firefox or Edge (both of which I can't stand and only use if really forced to). Whilst I can't work out from the page source what's amiss, I've compared the display between my browser and Firefox to see what the differences are.

It appears that there are, effectively, four "blocks" to the way the forum is displayed;
1) the site header, including the quick menus and the forum header image
2) a content header, including the date/time and the unread posts/topics links.
3) the main content, starting with the Home, Search, etc. buttons, followed by the content - either the lists of boards, a topic or the gallery.
4) the footer, including the copyright notice, etc.

In the browsers that are displaying incorrectly, it appears that it is displaying the site header at the top correctly, then calculating the space required for the content and displaying the content header that distance down the page, overlaying that with the footer (such that the content header contents are obscured) and finally overlaying that with the content block to whatever length that is.
The result of this is that the content header, footer and content always start approximately halfway down the displayed page, giving a large blank area which varies in length depending on the length of the content. Here are some screenshots to show what I've tried to describe;

Firefox top of page;
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/134/medium_7182-160823101008-1348442197.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=134845)

Firefox bottom of page;
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/134/medium_7182-160823101009-1348451852.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=134846)

Seamonkey top of page;
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/134/medium_7182-160823100720-134837975.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=134841)
Note the gap below the header image.

Seamonkey top of content area;
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/134/medium_7182-160823100720-1348411267.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=134842)
Note the large gap above, what appears to be the content header overlaid by the footer (hiding the content header contents) then that overlaid by the actual page contents.

Finally, Seamonkey very bottom of the page;
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/134/medium_7182-160823100721-1348421165.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=134843)
Note that the footer doesn't appear at all, because it was positioned just above the content block.

Hopefully, this will enable the tech guys to see what the issue is so that, when time permits, they can see if anything can be done to resolve it.

Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Papyrus on August 16, 2023, 12:28:07 PM
Why am I not getting all these problems that other people are getting? The Forum is whizzing along perfectly for me, so I feel I am missing out on all the excitement...

(There. That should put the kiss of death on it.)

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Browning 9mm on August 16, 2023, 12:32:24 PM
I'm with you @Papyrus
been wizzing along for days, haven't bother to log out, but I don't do anything with photos etc.

I can read posts, change pages and threads with no delays
and post, so far.

all as they say 'tickety boo'

so that's two nails in the coffin  :-[
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: chrism on August 16, 2023, 12:57:56 PM
Oh, don't get me wrong, I agree that it is indeed whizzing along very nicely - it'd just be nice if some of us didn't have to scroll down past acres of blank space to get to any page's content.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: dannyboy on August 16, 2023, 12:59:15 PM
Well I can add a third nail. I have had no problems over the last few days and, now I am getting used to the little differences over the old forum, am quite liking it.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Trainfish on August 16, 2023, 01:16:30 PM
How many nails do we need? I have another one.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Trainfish on August 16, 2023, 01:31:11 PM
Just 1 request though. Can we have the big N Gauge Forum hyperlinked again to take us to the main page please?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Browning 9mm on August 16, 2023, 01:32:46 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on August 16, 2023, 01:16:30 PMHow many nails do we need? I have another one.

how long is a piece of string ?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on August 16, 2023, 01:46:20 PM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on August 16, 2023, 01:32:46 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on August 16, 2023, 01:16:30 PMHow many nails do we need? I have another one.

how long is a piece of string ?

From end to end, albeit some get gert gaps in it ;)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Trainfish on August 16, 2023, 01:52:44 PM
Shirley Knot
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Browning 9mm on August 16, 2023, 02:53:37 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on August 16, 2023, 01:52:44 PMShirley Knot

what's she got to do with it ?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: AdeV on August 16, 2023, 06:57:41 PM
Quote from: chrism on August 16, 2023, 10:56:08 AMAs has previously been reported, some of us are getting a huge space between the site header image and the content of any forum page - the content starting roughly halfway down the browser screen.

...

Hopefully, this will enable the tech guys to see what the issue is so that, when time permits, they can see if anything can be done to resolve it.


That'll be a CSS problem: And, most likely, a bug in Seamonkey - since you've demonstrated Firefox & Edge work fine, I can confirm that Chromium based browsers work OK - that just leaves Safari and a few smaller players, e.g. Seamonkey - which I've never tried.

There may be a CSS workaround; but it seems to me that it's not honouring (or perhaps over-honouring) an element height setting.

Unfortunately, IME getting CSS absolutely perfect is a bit like pinning a tail on a donkey, when the donkey is alive and well and in the next room, and you're blindfolded, using a long stick and a blunt pin. And the donkey's already got a tail. And there's a herd of cats underfoot. It may also be raining...  CSS is a pig...
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on August 16, 2023, 08:18:58 PM
Thanks.  I've asked NGF Tech about the gap at the top of the forum.  I've not had that issue.

If members could just use this thread for forum issues please, as it's hard to follow any issues with multiple posts of nothingness.  Thanks. :P  :D
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on August 16, 2023, 08:26:59 PM
@chrism thanks for the heads up with header (no pun intended) I fixed that a littler earlier and should be good for those who use the browsers with the issue.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: chrism on August 17, 2023, 06:09:43 AM
Quote from: NGFTech on August 16, 2023, 08:26:59 PM@chrism thanks for the heads up with header (no pun intended) I fixed that a littler earlier and should be good for those who use the browsers with the issue.

Thank you very much, It's now looking perfick on my browser :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on August 17, 2023, 07:48:23 AM
Oh, that's good news, then. I'll try it again when I get home.  :beers:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on August 17, 2023, 10:50:39 PM
7.50am here in Oz, and I've just checked my laptop. All is now well. The acres of blank screen are now gone.

Thanks!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 17, 2023, 11:02:43 PM
No reported problems 11pm on a phone. Appreciated Tank and Ngf tech

Chris
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on August 18, 2023, 01:54:29 AM
Glad it looks proper now.

New addition: You will see "All Unread" to the top right above the main menu. That should give easy access to what some of you have asked for.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Yet_Another on August 18, 2023, 12:51:40 PM
Speaking of looking proper, it's good to see the signals back  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on August 19, 2023, 10:01:42 AM
Yes, the signals make it seem more like the old forum.

Still lots going on in the background folks.   :*(    :D
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on August 19, 2023, 10:14:07 AM
I just had to add some extra to the donations, due to some changes that were made - forum speed, updated buttons for Unread Posts, modifications.

Thank you SO MUCH for the donations that members have donated.  I'm really overwhelmed by the generosity from so many of you. This has been a costly project, with more to do, but currently we're stuck until the authors of the modifications update them.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Papyrus on August 19, 2023, 03:41:36 PM
Thanks Chris @Tank for all your hard work. We appreciate how costly it has been and I for one am more than happy to put a few zlotys and rupees into the coffers, but what I and the rest of the Forumites can't put a price on is all the time and effort you and the NGF techie have put into this. I know you have been getting some gripes, which must be difficult to bear when you are probably tearing your hair out, but we genuinely appreciate what you are doing and we know the Forum will be bigger and better at the end of it.

All best wishes, and happy modelling!

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on August 22, 2023, 11:07:27 AM
Thanks for the kind message, and the donation.  Yes, it just takes time to get everything back to where it should be.  One thing I learnt years ago, people don't like change, even if it's for the better!   :D
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Malc-c on August 23, 2023, 07:14:18 PM
Not sure if this is the correct thread to post this (was sure there was a post migration thread issues somewhere)... anyway  I don't appear to be receiving notifications to posts on threads I've created, or posted on.

Also - several posts don't appear to be word wrapping.  Example


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/135/5722-230823191341.png) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=135022)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on August 23, 2023, 09:49:16 PM
Must admit to having had the odd wrapping issue :uneasy:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: dannyboy on August 23, 2023, 09:57:51 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on August 23, 2023, 09:49:16 PMMust admit to having had the odd wrapping issue :uneasy:

And it's not even Christmas yet!  :)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on August 23, 2023, 10:06:48 PM
Thank goodness I put £500 on you being the first to come up with that :P
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: PLD on August 23, 2023, 10:16:39 PM
Quote from: Malc-c on August 23, 2023, 07:14:18 PMNot sure if this is the correct thread to post this (was sure there was a post migration thread issues somewhere)... anyway  I don't appear to be receiving notifications to posts on threads I've created, or posted on.

Also - several posts don't appear to be word wrapping.  Example

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/135/5722-230823191341.png) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=135022)

The (non)wrapping issue is partly user inflicted. It is invariably when someone has posted a very long web-link in full rather than using the [ url=hhtp://whatever ] html tag.
A lot of forum packages don't handle them well (not just this one...). e-bay links seem particularly problematic.

Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on August 23, 2023, 11:37:28 PM
Quote from: PLD on August 23, 2023, 10:16:39 PMThe (non)wrapping issue is partly user inflicted. It is invariably when someone has posted a very long web-link in full rather than using the [ url=hhtp://whatever ] html tag.
e-bay links seem particularly problematic.

You only need to copy the link only as far as the item number, ie. up to but not including the first question mark in the link.  Everything after that is search and referral data etc.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/135/5885-230823232929.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=135025)

I agree that using the "Insert a link" button helps with truncating the link text shown in the post or creating a more friendly description, whilst still following the entire intact link when you click on it.
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/135/medium_5885-230823233613.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=135026)

Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bigmac on August 24, 2023, 09:04:01 AM
nope--that didnt work either
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: njee20 on August 24, 2023, 09:28:35 AM
Agreed on long URLs being problematic,  but in the photo above that's just a long paragraph with no text wrapping, which is odd.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: PLD on August 24, 2023, 10:50:43 AM
In the ROS thread in the screenshot above, it is reply #12 that is the culprit...
That causes the page to widen, which then impacts all other posts on the same page...

Paul
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bigmac on August 24, 2023, 11:59:30 AM
Quote from: PLD on August 24, 2023, 10:50:43 AMIn the ROS thread in the screenshot above, it is reply #12 that is the culprit...
That causes the page to widen, which then impacts all other posts on the same page...

Paul

and ive managed to edit and correct the link--so its normal service has been resumed.

no doubt it will happen again.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on August 25, 2023, 08:52:42 PM
Thanks for reporting that.  I don't recall that happening before, so perhaps something needs to be done to force the post into being able to be scrolled.

I'll look into the emails as well, as I don't seem to be receiving many, other than Admin ones.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on August 30, 2023, 08:41:46 AM
Just went to use the smilies, and clicked on "More", but they've mostly gone.... headbanger, pooh, etc. All the good ones!
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Nbodger on August 30, 2023, 08:47:49 AM
Quote from: Bealman on August 30, 2023, 08:41:46 AMJust went to use the smilies, and clicked on "More", but they've mostly gone.... headbanger, pooh, etc. All the good ones!

They are all still there George
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on August 30, 2023, 09:04:45 AM
Not on my phone, they're not. I tried it again, and saw a brief flash of them, but then it presented the poster's and locos advertising NGF.

I can't scroll up and get them.  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on August 30, 2023, 09:30:03 AM
Quote from: Bealman on August 30, 2023, 09:04:45 AMNot on my phone, they're not.

Well if you insist on using a phone not a proper computer and browser....  :D  :dighole:   
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on August 30, 2023, 09:34:56 AM
Yeah, rub it in as you show the grave digger  :P
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Nbodger on August 30, 2023, 09:44:21 AM
The updated version is not as user friendly on mobiles as the previous one.

Even on a computer unless you size your display to fit, you can not see all of the information. As George pointed out the smilies is one similarly you can not always see the the number of views, posts and rated columns.

All of the above are not accessible on a mobile

 
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on August 30, 2023, 11:08:30 AM
As one who has always been resistant to accessing the forum on a mobile, I think the new format is much more user friendly
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on August 30, 2023, 11:17:34 AM
Not when I'm on me phone at the bowlo, which is a lot of me time  ;D
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on August 30, 2023, 11:33:50 AM
I would never attempt doing Mod duties on the phone but for just simple reading/replying I do find the new update easier
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Tank on August 30, 2023, 02:10:50 PM
They're all there for me, and I love the new mobile version.  Are you clicking "Quick Reply" and not "User Actions" and then "Reply"?  Remember, "Quick Reply" limits the amount of actions you can put into the post.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: stevewalker on August 30, 2023, 06:07:16 PM
Quote from: Nbodger on August 30, 2023, 09:44:21 AMThe updated version is not as user friendly on mobiles as the previous one.

You should be able to switch the site to "Desktop view" or something similar on your mobile. Obviously a full desktop view has tiny text on a phone, but you can then scroll and zoom the screen.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on August 31, 2023, 02:07:18 AM
OK, as Tank suggested, I'm not using Quick Reply. Here goes....

Nope, I get a brief flash of them, then they immediately scroll down off the screen and leave me with the NGF locos.

Not Earth-shatteringly bad, but puzzling.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on September 02, 2023, 06:01:47 AM
Greets. Is anyone getting Email notifications from the forum about new replies to posts, etc?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: crewearpley40 on September 02, 2023, 06:14:56 AM
Yes. Periodically
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on September 02, 2023, 06:45:51 AM
No, definitely no!
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: port perran on September 02, 2023, 07:49:06 AM
No
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: PLD on September 02, 2023, 08:44:09 AM
Quote from: NGFTech on September 02, 2023, 06:01:47 AMGreets. Is anyone getting Email notifications from the forum about new replies to posts, etc?
For threads that I have replied to since the Upgrade - YES
For threads that I last contributed to prior to the Upgrade - NO

It looks like when the upgrade was done, all notification settings defaulted to No-emails for all threads.
I have since changed my preferences to activate e-mails by default, but (as a universal option) it seemingly only becomes effective for an individual thread next time I contribute to that thread.
I probably could set notifications individually for others thread-by-thread, but really not that bothered...
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Train Waiting on September 02, 2023, 08:47:40 AM
No.

Best wishes

John
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on September 02, 2023, 09:41:59 AM
No, but then again I don't want them
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on September 02, 2023, 09:47:23 AM
Unfortunately these days, it's the only way I hear of reports.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Nbodger on September 02, 2023, 10:37:04 AM
Quote from: NGFTech on September 02, 2023, 06:01:47 AMGreets. Is anyone getting Email notifications from the forum about new replies to posts, etc?

After resetting for updates to two threads after the upgrade I did get updates but over probably the last three weeks these have ceased.

The upgrade did re-set all threads to no updates

The previous version didn't always send updates and then you would get a few old ones in a batch as though something / somebody had reset the system then updates resumed for a time
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on September 02, 2023, 12:06:04 PM
I got a load of notifications yesterday, mostly about stuff on the TINGS thread so it is working.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on September 02, 2023, 02:51:45 PM
It appears under the new server pics have to be under 1MB, which in these days of digital photography is, to my mind, ridiculous. I can't be ars bothered to keep resizing pics until they fit this demand. Not only that, but my laptop shows a pic at under 1MB yet the forum says 'No' (nod to 'Little Britain', there)
I appreciate the size of pics has to be limited owing to space but 1MB is too small IMHO and so I won't be posting pics from any shows I go to, like the Liverpool Show today
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on September 02, 2023, 03:59:32 PM
@Newportnobby sorry but I disagree. For viewing online on a forum such as this a 1Mb jpg is more than adequate for a decent sized image on a web page. It doesn't need to be huge pixel dimensions and super high quality, this isn't a photography site :) 

Looking at my recent gallery photos, Most are from 250Kb to 750Kb.  Taken on a simple 5mp camera and cropped/enhanced as desired before uploading.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Ed on September 02, 2023, 04:30:22 PM
To save space I always resize my pictures to 1500 pixels width as it usually reduces the file size from around 3 to 4 Mb to about 800Kb, and doesn't affect the quality when posting on a forum.


Ed


Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Train Waiting on September 02, 2023, 05:02:44 PM
As a courtesy to those with dodgy internet and suchlike, I always resize my picturinghams to round about 500 kilobytes.  Fresh from Mrs Poppingham's camera, they are often a couple of those megabyte-thingies in size.

Whilst I accept the picturinghams on my Poppingham thread set a Forum-best for awfulness, this is a consequence of my coarse modelling coupled to my dreadful photography and is not a result of my reducing them in size.

The following is a photograph of a photograph which is over fifty years old and was pinned up on the wall of the weigh-house seen in the picture.  Time, cigarette smoke and the Andrew Barclay 'Pug's' smoke have mellowed the original print.  It was reduced to 500 kilobytes, more or less, and looks good enough to me on the screen - better than the original!


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/135/6222-020923165432.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=135287)

 

It doesn't take long to reduce them.  I don't have any fancy-dancy programme to do this, it is just whatever the picture-looking-at software on my computer is.  Technically, it's not actually my computer as I don't have one, but that is another story.

With best wishes

John

Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Dorsetmike on September 02, 2023, 06:20:50 PM
Quite a few sites limit images to 800pixels on the longest edge, depending on your photo editing software resizing should be a simple task, I've never had a problem doing it.
If you have images on an online site such as Flickr then just give a link
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on September 02, 2023, 09:17:14 PM
The average size of a pic from my camera is 2.5-3MB. I always resize them, not least to save space on my laptop and because my e mail limits what I can send to anyone.
I use 'Paint' to resize them using a reduction in the pixels.
On one particular pic from today I tried 4 times to resize it and finally got it down to 963kb but still the forum said it was more than 1MB. At that point I gave up ::)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: AdeV on September 03, 2023, 12:30:56 AM
Pics straight out of my camera are about 7mb, which is a really dirty trick to play on a forum... Battling disk space is a constant problem online, where storage prices are significantly higher than one pays for a multi-terabyte hard disk. Don't forget that it also impacts the backup sizes too, so it's a double cost whammy.

I'm working on some gallery software for one of my forums, which currently uses either direct attachments, or an ancient and increasingly clunky Coppermine installation... One of the features I intend to have is an auto resize on upload, so forum runners don't need to restrict the upload itself (bandwidth is almost free these days), but the stored image will be a web friendly size. Obviously that makes it unsuitable for online storage of your original photos... But then, that's not what it's supposed to be  :)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Graham on September 03, 2023, 12:56:30 AM
When I travel I use a forum called TravelArk to effectively give the family and friends "postcards" from wherever we are, and it resizes the photos as I upload them. This may be an option for the forum to get over this issue.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on September 03, 2023, 01:14:39 AM
I've never heard of that, but it sounds interesting. If I does all that stuff automatically, the software that performs it could indeed be beneficial to the forum.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Graham on September 03, 2023, 01:35:15 AM
have a look at v2.travelark.org
whilst it is "free" they do ask for a $50 per year donation to keep it going
cheers
Graham
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Trainfish on September 03, 2023, 01:48:03 AM
Quote from: Ed on September 02, 2023, 04:30:22 PMTo save space I always resize my pictures to 1500 pixels width as it usually reduces the file size from around 3 to 4 Mb to about 800Kb, and doesn't affect the quality when posting on a forum.

Ed

That's exactly what I do, 1500 pixels on the longest edge. Most are around 350kb when resized. My pictures always show up in decent quality although some of the content is maybe not so attractive at times.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on September 04, 2023, 11:55:00 PM
For the notifications I have adjusted a few default settings that you can adjust under your own personal settings.

For image uploads to the gallery it should resize it to the limit unless we are talking about uploading somewhere else?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on September 05, 2023, 01:02:56 AM
Quote from: NGFTech on September 04, 2023, 11:55:00 PMFor the notifications I have adjusted a few default settings that you can adjust under your own personal settings.

For image uploads to the gallery it should resize it to the limit unless we are talking about uploading somewhere else?

It just gives a message to the effect images are limited to 1000000 and won't upload :no:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Papyrus on September 05, 2023, 12:29:01 PM
Quote from: Train Waiting on September 02, 2023, 05:02:44 PMWhilst I accept the picturinghams on my Poppingham thread set a Forum-best for awfulness, this is a consequence of my coarse modelling coupled to my dreadful photography and is not a result of my reducing them in size.



You are too hard on yourself, John. Your photos, and your modelling, are perfectly fine. Long may your Poppingham thread entertain us all.

Regarding Mick @Newportnobby 's problem, when I take a photo on my phone I email it to myself. My email program (MS Outlook) asks me if I want to reduce the image size. Doing so always brings the image size to well under 1Mb and eliminates the need for any fancy editing.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on September 05, 2023, 12:31:59 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on September 05, 2023, 01:02:56 AMIt just gives a message to the effect images are limited to 1000000 and won't upload :no:
That might be a global limit. I will need to ask the boss if he wants to increase it.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Ed on September 05, 2023, 12:34:54 PM
Just out of interest, is anyone else getting this message


Ed
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on September 05, 2023, 12:38:06 PM
I am getting the notifications but do note that I have my settings for this topic set to receive Email not just alerts.
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/135/5408-050923123754.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=135348)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Ed on September 05, 2023, 02:13:40 PM
Apologies, I meant the "It just gives a message to the effect images are limited to 1000000 and won't upload", message.

Ed
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on September 05, 2023, 04:09:17 PM
Quote from: Papyrus on September 05, 2023, 12:29:01 PMRegarding Mick @Newportnobby 's problem, when I take a photo on my phone I email it to myself. My email program (MS Outlook) asks me if I want to reduce the image size. Doing so always brings the image size to well under 1Mb and eliminates the need for any fancy editing.


Chris - sorry but I'm of the opinion a phone is for phone calls and texts and my camera is for photographs. Yes, it's an outdated philosophy but my camera will always take better pics than my phone.
What I won't put up with is my laptop telling me something is below 1MB and the forum telling me otherwise.
I really don't care which one is right, but am too old for so much 'faff'
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Train Waiting on September 05, 2023, 06:02:20 PM
@NGFTech thank you very much for showing how to receive notifications.  I hadn't realised this was the new system and your helpful post is much appreciated.

@Papyrus Thank you so much.  You remarks are very kind.

With all best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Dorsetmike on September 05, 2023, 06:06:57 PM
I'm still using Picture Publisher v10 which dates from 2002, it's a free download from a few sites, however it won't run on versions of Windows after XP, so I use an XP emulator.
It has plenty of tools for editing images, cropping, resizing, adjusting brightness and contrast, also adjusting colour and cloning out unwanted bits.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on September 08, 2023, 04:11:04 PM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on September 05, 2023, 06:06:57 PMI'm still using Picture Publisher v10 which dates from 2002,
@Dorsetmike Best graphics publisher ever! Still use it! Yes, it can run on Win XP and Win 10, which is what I use, no need for emulation. You need to change the properties to run for the earlier version of Win XP service pack 2.

For everyone else thanks for your feedback.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Dorsetmike on September 08, 2023, 04:45:28 PM
I'm still running Win 7 and that told me I need the XP emulator to run Pic Pub,it works so I let it run that way.
I got my first versin of pic pub back in 1992 with my first scanner, got later versions (7 & 8) free on magazine covers, version 10 became free some time after Corel bought it from Micrografx in 2001 and incorporated it into their own software.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on September 08, 2023, 05:18:24 PM
@Dorsetmike oh I thought you were on Win 10 or 11 and trying to use it that way. You are right, keep on doing it your way!
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Dorsetmike on September 09, 2023, 01:16:32 AM
Yep, I don't get dodgy updates like Win 10 was famous for; if it ain't broke why fix it?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Ed on September 10, 2023, 11:55:45 AM
Just noticed that I can't reply to Wanted topics on the 'Wanted - None N Gauge Items' sub-board (not that I want to), there's no Reply button or Quick reply box.

Obviously I've more than 10 posts, so I thought I should be able to reply if I wanted to.


Ed

Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on September 10, 2023, 12:16:04 PM
I don't think we've ever had a 'Reply' capability but you could always leave a comment or PM the poster of the ad.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Ed on September 10, 2023, 12:19:01 PM
How do I leave a comment ?

Ed
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on September 10, 2023, 12:24:39 PM
Go to the ad in 'Classifieds' and underneath it look for 'Add comment'
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Roy L S on September 10, 2023, 12:25:31 PM
On a separate subject, I have just PM'd someone, selecting the recipient via "Members" but for the life of me I cannot now see where on the Homepage I go to (or click) get  access to my messages sent and received.

Am I being a "dummy" or is this a known issue?

Roy
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Hiawatha on September 10, 2023, 12:31:47 PM
Click on My Messages next to your avatar picture in the top left corner.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on September 10, 2023, 12:33:09 PM
Very top of the page you'll see 'Forum Name' > 'Messages' > 'Alerts'
Click on 'Messages' and follow your desired option, Roy

Edit:-
Hiawatha beat me to it
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Ed on September 10, 2023, 12:33:30 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on September 10, 2023, 12:24:39 PMGo to the ad in 'Classifieds' and underneath it look for 'Add comment'

Looking at this there's nothing in the comments for the ad in 'Classifieds' yet there are replies.

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=62157.msg808292#new

Also I can't see how I could inform somebody I might have what they want, unless I sent a (PM) Message.


Ed

Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on September 10, 2023, 12:50:45 PM
Sorry, Ed, but only Mods or Admin can make replies there (not even sure why it's visible to anyone else if that's the case).
If you want to PM me feel free as I placed the ad :)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Ed on September 10, 2023, 12:55:02 PM
No it's fine, but does it means if I've got something that somebody posts as
 wanted, the only way I can tell them I have one is by sending a message?


Ed
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on September 10, 2023, 12:57:05 PM
You could add a comment as suggested but I don't know whether the other person is notified of that. PM is probably best but maybe @Tank knows a better way
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Trainfish on September 10, 2023, 01:25:02 PM
I don't usually post on the forum using my phone but as I am in Leamington I have added a few posts here and there. However, I have to say that posting pictures is a real ball ache. I can add pictures to my gallery easily even from the topic page but 9 times out of 10 once I've uploaded my picture to my gallery it sends me back to the topic reply box with no picture link coding. I can then go to my gallery to get the link but it's a pain. Doesn't always happen like this as sometimes the coding shows up. It may be that I've done something a little different to achieve that but I don't think so. I think I'll stick to posting pictures from my PC or laptop in future and delete all the duplicates in my gallery when I get home.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on September 11, 2023, 02:10:23 AM
I post from me phone all the time. Going to the gallery, highlighting the BB code, copying it, then pasting it into your post is a bit of a pain, but I've been doing it that way since 2013, so I'm used to it.

Phew, that was a long sentence!
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Trainfish on September 11, 2023, 09:57:09 AM
That was the best method I could find but not ideal. I wanted to make a post with several pictures and doing it like that would have wasted a lot of valuable drinking time so they can wait until I get home today or tomorrow.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on September 11, 2023, 10:16:10 AM
It does, for sure. Having to go back and swipe the BB all the time.

But it slows down my drinking  :D
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on September 11, 2023, 10:23:10 AM
And, incidentally, I'm at the bus stop typing this, bloody freezing!
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Ed on September 11, 2023, 01:54:46 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on September 10, 2023, 12:50:45 PMSorry, Ed, but only Mods or Admin can make replies there (not even sure why it's visible to anyone else if that's the case).
If you want to PM me feel free as I placed the ad :)

It appears that it's not just classifieds that I cant reply to, as I can't reply to this either which is in 'N Gage Discussion'.

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=62162.msg808456#new


Ed
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on September 11, 2023, 02:36:38 PM
@Ed
There is already one thread with 10 pages on TINGS so I locked the one you refer to.
Only Mods/Admin can access the locked one
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Ed on September 11, 2023, 02:58:20 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on September 11, 2023, 02:36:38 PM@Ed
There is already one thread with 10 pages on TINGS so I locked the one you refer to.
Only Mods/Admin can access the locked one

So I cant' comment on that video, oh well  :confused1:



Ed
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Graham on September 11, 2023, 11:47:46 PM
Quote from: Bealman on September 11, 2023, 10:23:10 AMAnd, incidentally, I'm at the bus stop typing this, bloody freezing!
Never mind you will whinging you are hot next, and given the forecast for the next few days you will be nice and hot.  :)  :)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: martyn on September 12, 2023, 02:40:18 PM
Apologies if this has been on this page before, but I can't find it.

I've tried to add a picture to a PM, but when I attach it, it comes up with 'file too big'. I'm sure I used this method in the past.

Is there a way to add a picture to a PM now, please? If I click on the 'if you want to add an image to the gallery, please use [REPLY] button instead'. This doesn't seem to work either.

Thanks

Martyn
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: crewearpley40 on September 12, 2023, 02:50:13 PM
Martyn. I've had the same issue. Has anyone else experienced please ?

The old system was better but just learning I guess how to .... scenario
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on September 12, 2023, 02:58:38 PM
@martyn If I'm sending a photo on a PM it's often already in my gallery so I find it on there and grab the link to paste into the PM.   If it's a new photo I upload it to my gallery (or random photos as appropriate) first then grab the link as before.

Are you saying you can add pictures to the gallery ok (so you know they're not too large for the forum) but including in a PM gives you the size error?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: martyn on September 12, 2023, 03:35:51 PM
@ntpntpntp

Not sure what's happening. I try and add it to the gallery as a random link, but that's when the error message comes up.

Maybe because it's a pdf? I don't think I've tried loading oe of those before.

I'm not sure if I've added 'ordinary' photos since the upgrade; I've not had a problem doing that before.

I'll try some of your suggestions and see what happens.

Martyn

Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: ntpntpntp on September 12, 2023, 04:31:03 PM
@martyn   Ah so it is a pdf not an image.   Linking to gallery etc. isn't going to work.

Send PM doesn't have the same option to Drag and Drop a file as an attachment that a full reply to a post has ** on some areas of this forum **  For example on your thread about the Peco Kit I tried a full reply and it gave me the option to Drag and Drop a file, it seemed to allow me to drop a 10Mb pdf, saying maximum size 16Mb.  I didn't actually post the attachment as it's a pdf I paid for years ago.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/135/medium_5885-120923162755.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=135564)


Yet the same Reply button on this thread doesn't give me the option?  Might be because this thread is set as a Notice?  I think I saw some sort of error come about about attachments not allowed for Notices.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/135/medium_5885-120923162922.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=135565)
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on September 12, 2023, 05:13:48 PM
pdfs can be attached to a normal post but not to PMs.
The forum does not support pdfs to upload to a gallery (Jeez, I hate that word)
It has always been thus.
One way round it, I've found' is to take a screen shot of the pdf and save it as a jpeg then upload it
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on October 12, 2023, 11:18:57 AM
Much though I appreciate the work gone in to improve the mobile phone version of the forum, looking at "All Unread" it doesn't say who was the last to post, so I don't know which ones to ignore.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Ed on October 12, 2023, 02:29:34 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on October 12, 2023, 11:18:57 AMMuch though I appreciate the work gone in to improve the mobile phone version of the forum, looking at "All Unread" it doesn't say who was the last to post, so I don't know which ones to ignore.

Does on mine in landscape.


Ed
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on October 13, 2023, 01:01:56 AM
All I see is who started it. Doesn't tell me who the last post was.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on October 13, 2023, 09:42:48 AM
It does if you rotate your phone to landscape. On the right you can see who made the last post
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Hiawatha on October 13, 2023, 09:47:39 AM
It does this only if I select the desktop website on the phone – but not the mobile version ...
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on October 13, 2023, 10:01:06 AM
I haven't a clue about different versions :dunce:
I just press the icon and up comes the forum.
The new improved Persil mobile version is far better than the old one
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Hiawatha on October 13, 2023, 11:29:42 AM
I agree that the new mobile version is far better. The old red one never worked on my phone – it only displayed it once when connecting to NGF but from then it (thankfully) always showed the desktop version.


On the mobile version, the NGF does not show the Replies/Views/Reactions and Last Posts. The Replies/Views/Reactions I don't really need – but without the Last Post one can not go directly to that post, only to the top of the last page:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/136/6051-131023112028-136352977.jpeg)


Only when I select the Desktop Website on the phone I can see the Last Posts:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/136/6051-131023112028-1363531923.jpeg)


Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on October 14, 2023, 05:18:09 AM
Ah, that's better! Thanks for that - I can now see the last poster.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on February 07, 2024, 03:59:03 AM
I am still working on being able to ADD a Bookmark but can anyone who used Bookmarks in the past please tell me if you are seeing your old Bookmarks? There is a button in the menu.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on February 07, 2024, 09:32:42 AM
Quote from: NGFTech on February 07, 2024, 03:59:03 AMI am still working on being able to ADD a Bookmark but can anyone who used Bookmarks in the past please tell me if you are seeing your old Bookmarks? There is a button in the menu.

Sorry, but where on the Menu is this button please?

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/139/264-070224092822-139362150.png)

Ideally I'd have said 'My Bookmarks' should be added to the list under my forum name at the top of the screen. I have a huge number of bookmarks and can't get at them
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: msr on February 07, 2024, 09:43:21 AM
I'm in the same situation as NN. I can't see the Bookmarks button either on my laptop or on my phone, nor does it appear under 'Main Menu'.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: dannyboy on February 07, 2024, 10:36:35 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on February 07, 2024, 09:32:42 AMSorry, but where on the Menu is this button please?

Ideally I'd have said 'My Bookmarks' should be added to the list under my forum name at the top of the screen. I have a huge number of bookmarks and can't get at them

I also can not find a Bookmarks button and agree with Mick regarding the placing of a button.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on February 07, 2024, 09:06:24 PM
Sorry about that. Please see if you can see it in the top menu if not please use this link to see if you can see your old Bookmarks.

If you still do not see this button please see if this helps:
https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=bookmarks
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Papyrus on February 07, 2024, 09:10:38 PM
Yes it's on the drop-down list on my mobile. All my bookmarks are there. Haven't got my laptop on at the moment.

Many thanks!

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: dannyboy on February 07, 2024, 09:11:39 PM
We have a 'My Bookmarks' button!  :claphappy:
Thank you.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on February 07, 2024, 09:12:35 PM
Ok but do not get too excited you still won't be able to add new Bookmarks. The important thing I want to know is if you can see your old Bookmarks?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: dannyboy on February 07, 2024, 09:13:43 PM
Quote from: NGFTech on February 07, 2024, 09:12:35 PMThe important thing I want to know is if you can see your old Bookmarks?

Yes, I think mine are all there.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on February 07, 2024, 10:11:55 PM
Quote from: NGFTech on February 07, 2024, 09:06:24 PMSorry about that. Please see if you can see it in the top menu if not please use this link to see if you can see your old Bookmarks.

If you still do not see this button please see if this helps:
https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=bookmarks

I still do not have a 'Bookmarks' button in the top menu and the link you give doesn't work. It just says 'Error - you are not allowed to make a Bookmark'
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on February 08, 2024, 04:57:35 AM
It should work for you now, please check.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on February 08, 2024, 05:17:01 AM
Quote from: NGFTech on February 08, 2024, 04:57:35 AMIt should work for you now, please check.

And it does work. Many thanks. They all seem to be there but I have so many it's difficult to know :-[
Trouble is, I'm going to be spending even more time on the forum while I plough through all of them. I've looked at a few this morning and it's mind boggling to be reminded of so many members not with us any more, either through natural wastage. disillusionment or, sadly, in too many cases, the grim reaper has been a-visiting :(
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on February 08, 2024, 06:51:48 AM
Yep, scary.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on February 08, 2024, 06:56:43 AM
Glad they are there. Now just need to hear from Boss moving forward. Will return here when I have more updates to add.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on March 15, 2024, 11:03:16 PM
It has been a long time but still have not heard from the boss however you will be happy know that I have gone ahead and fixed the Bookmarks so now you can both ADD and DELETE bookmarks!
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Dorsetmike on March 15, 2024, 11:43:09 PM
Could do with getting images sorted out
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: NGFTech on March 16, 2024, 01:59:03 AM
What about images?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on March 16, 2024, 02:46:01 AM
I think he's referring to the difficulty many people have in posting pictures. I have to agree it's cumbersome.
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on March 16, 2024, 03:07:20 AM
Trade count still missing against everyone's forum name please
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Trainfish on March 16, 2024, 03:28:51 PM
Didn't we also used to have a "report" button too or did I dream about that?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: PLD on March 16, 2024, 03:46:19 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on March 16, 2024, 03:28:51 PMDidn't we also used to have a "report" button too or did I dream about that?
It's in the options from the [MORE...] Button, bottom right next to the [" QUOTE ] button on a post...
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Trainfish on March 16, 2024, 03:55:08 PM
So it is, thanks. As it's the only option in there couldn't the "MORE" button just be labelled as "Report"?
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on March 16, 2024, 04:15:53 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on March 16, 2024, 03:55:08 PMSo it is, thanks. As it's the only option in there couldn't the "MORE" button just be labelled as "Report"?

We Mods have another 5 options within that 'More' button' :)
Wanna join up? :-X
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Moonglum on March 16, 2024, 04:46:34 PM
I always had you down as a bit more of a "rocker" than a "mod" Mick @Newportnobby !!! Sorry couldn't resist...

Tim
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Trainfish on March 16, 2024, 05:31:51 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on March 16, 2024, 04:15:53 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on March 16, 2024, 03:55:08 PMSo it is, thanks. As it's the only option in there couldn't the "MORE" button just be labelled as "Report"?

We Mods have another 5 options within that 'More' button' :)
Wanna join up? :-X

 :hmmm:
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Bealman on March 17, 2024, 12:00:07 AM
Actually it's only four more options.  :D
Title: Re: Forum Issues
Post by: Newportnobby on March 17, 2024, 04:05:21 AM
Quote from: Bealman on March 17, 2024, 12:00:07 AMActually it's only four more options.  :D

A GlobMod has a choice of 6 options in total, one of which is 'Report to Moderator'
The extra one is 'Ban a fellow Mod' ;)  >:D