I've just received an e mail purporting to be from HMRC to say I am due a tax refund and asking me to return a filled in P080-R form. This is an attachment on the mail from hmr.co.uk (note - not hmrc) and the attachment is P80-R.html - which I can't open anyway even if I wanted to.
What does the 'Collective' think, please?
Mick, sounds iffy to me.
I have some experience of these type of things, if you forward the email to me with a cheque for £350 I'll sort it all out for you.
:whistle:
@Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)
Everything about it suggests fraud. You should be able to report it to a government agency that investigates such matters.
Quote from: emjaybee on May 13, 2022, 03:45:14 PM
Mick, sounds iffy to me.
Me too. The first thing to consider is whether or not HMRC actually have your email address, if not that's a dead giveaway - and I don't mean the supposed refund.
Quote from: Newportnobby on May 13, 2022, 03:40:25 PM
I've just received an e mail purporting to be from HMRC to say I am due a tax refund and asking me to return a filled in P080-R form. This is an attachment on the mail from hmr.co.uk (note - not hmrc) and the attachment is P80-R.html - which I can't open anyway even if I wanted to.
What does the 'Collective' think, please?
Definitely a scam.
HMRC use gov.uk as part of their web address.
I haven't had one this year phishing, but in previous years, it's been binned.
I did get a tax rebate earlier this year (Whoopee!!!) and it came as a cheque (Giro?) in the post, with no prior announcement.
Martyn
Absolutely a scam. These "tax refund" fake emails are well known.
Mick,
I totally disagree,
I think it is a refund of the tax you paid on the £1,000,000 your friendly Nigerian colonel paid you for helping him to get his funds out of the country.
there has obviously been a change in the rules.
live long and prosper :hmmm: :smiley-laughing:
Quote from: Newportnobby on May 13, 2022, 03:40:25 PM
I've just received an e mail purporting to be from HMRC to say I am due a tax refund and asking me to return a filled in P080-R form. This is an attachment on the mail from hmr.co.uk (note - not hmrc) and the attachment is P80-R.html - which I can't open anyway even if I wanted to.
What does the 'Collective' think, please?
Hi Mick just had to log in to reply to your post!
FWIW as someone that has been in contact on line with the IRS for many rears, from my experience
ALL all their website page address's will start with: https://www.gov.uk/ (https://www.gov.uk/) followed by what ever department it is after the forward slash.
Hope that helps to settle things! ::)
Dave
I've had a similar Email, the give away in my case was the date in American format.
Martin
Quote from: Newportnobby on May 13, 2022, 03:40:25 PM
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What does the 'Collective' think, please?
Why is this in Computer Help ?
:D :D :D :D
Quote from: OffshoreAlan on May 13, 2022, 06:13:34 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on May 13, 2022, 03:40:25 PM
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What does the 'Collective' think, please?
Why is this in Computer Help ?
:D :D :D :D
'Cos it came through on his 'puter, and he needs help!
Obviously!
:smackedface:
It's not genuine. Please delete and then clear 'deleted items' from your computer.
Best wishes.
John
Very scammy. Never even try and download attachments from things like this. Entirely possible that your "I can't open anyway" means that some virus has now been unleashed on your system.
I can't believe this topic is still running! If the link doesn't start with 'https://www.gov.uk/' (https://www.gov.uk/') then it can't be trusted. Simple!
However if you encounter emails that try to emulate trusted sites then you should contact your email host, they can on your request carry out a reset which deletes the people who are tracking you. I recently did this with Yahoo which stopped the junk I was receiving almost immediately.
Thanks, All.
I've deleted it.
Crying shame really as it would have paid for all my pre orders due this year :*( :*(
One very simple rule - if an email relating to you as a customer or from an organisation such as HMRC, your bank, Amazon etc doesn't have your name on it then it is a scam - absolutely no question. The opposite doesn't apply - even if it does have your name on it, it could still be a scam.
Likewise phone calls - if the caller doesn't say "am I speaking to Mr ...." then it is a scam. There again all landline phone calls are a scam and not worth answering.
I have become exceedingly distrustful of any contact.
Last week I received two e-mails from RACQ insurance offering a refund on each insurance policy due to over charging. Just had to scan QR codes and fill out some details to receive the refunds (total over $540). The cause of the overcharge was due to a "Household Excellence Bonus" that was not applied over last few years.
The policy numbers quoted in the e-mails did not match the copies of the polices I had to hand.
To me it had scam written all over it.
Sent a copy to RACQ via their web site as a scam report. Got a phone call couple of hours later from RACQ saying it was genuine but the caller said it did read like a scam.
So are you going to push for the $540, or continue to treat it as a scam?
Quote from: Chris Morris on May 14, 2022, 06:46:51 AM
There again all landline phone calls are a scam and not worth answering.
A very sweeping statement, especially if you can't get a mobile signal at home. Anyway, for a few pence per month I get 'Caller ID' so can 'vet' incoming calls :P
Quote from: Bealman on May 14, 2022, 08:55:02 AM
So are you going to push for the $540, or continue to treat it as a scam?
If I don't do anything a cheque will be sent to my postal address.
I consider that it isn't a scam just a badly worded document.
Cool! :thumbsup:
Quote from: Newportnobby on May 14, 2022, 09:07:42 AM
Quote from: Chris Morris on May 14, 2022, 06:46:51 AM
There again all landline phone calls are a scam and not worth answering.
A very sweeping statement, especially if you can't get a mobile signal at home. Anyway, for a few pence per month I get 'Caller ID' so can 'vet' incoming calls :P
Same here, the only people who ever call me on the landline are from the local vet so I always answer them in case they want to see me :doh:
Quote from: Newportnobby on May 14, 2022, 09:07:42 AM
Quote from: Chris Morris on May 14, 2022, 06:46:51 AM
There again all landline phone calls are a scam and not worth answering.
A very sweeping statement, especially if you can't get a mobile signal at home. Anyway, for a few pence per month I get 'Caller ID' so can 'vet' incoming calls :P
Don't know if it's reached the UK yet, but here in the US the scamming/phishing calls almost all have spoofed caller ID's. Last week we had one that purported to be the local medical center but was actually someone wanting donations to a (fake) charity.
The other thing we're getting are robocalls that don't start unless you say the word "hello", which then triggers a transfer to a live (usually 3rd world) call center. As a result, we now answer with "Who's this?", which only triggers about 20% of the calls to transfer. The latest variant I got yesterday was a call (caller ID "unavailable", but apparently local number) that started a machine-generated voice saying hello several times, to try and trick you into saying it back, so the transfer can happen.
It's becoming hard to stay ahead of these things.
Jon
Quote from: Newportnobby on May 14, 2022, 09:07:42 AM
Quote from: Chris Morris on May 14, 2022, 06:46:51 AM
There again all landline phone calls are a scam and not worth answering.
A very sweeping statement, especially if you can't get a mobile signal at home. Anyway, for a few pence per month I get 'Caller ID' so can 'vet' incoming calls :P
Which offer advice on Barringunwanted callers
https://www.which.co.uk/reviews/cordless-phones/article/how-to-block-nuisance-calls-aHkHz1m7wCes (https://www.which.co.uk/reviews/cordless-phones/article/how-to-block-nuisance-calls-aHkHz1m7wCes)
All incoming calls to the landline other than family* get left to the answerphone. If they can't be bothered to leave a message it's not real / not important.
Recently there's been a spate of spam calls here regarding driveway upgrades, using a small group of related numbers. I've blocked them all.
* If it's down to me these get left too, as it's always when I'm in the middle of a favourite TV program or I'm soldering/gluing something :D
I have devoped the system of answering any unknown number as..
"Main Guardroom, security detachment, Cpl J*****S Sir"
don't know why, but 99% then disconnect :-[
perhaps it's my accent :hmmm:
Haven't had a landline for years. Seems to reduce nuisance calls :confused1:
Quote from: Jon898 on May 14, 2022, 03:42:21 PM
Don't know if it's reached the UK yet, but here in the US the scamming/phishing calls almost all have spoofed caller ID's.
Reached the UK yet? The bar stewards have been at it here for years.
Their latest trick is to use the same STD (area) code as the one for the number they are calling, in the hope people will think it might be someone they know and answer the call.
The only phone numbers my landlines recognise are the ones I've entered into the phone myself so I'm hardly likely to get spoof caller IDs :no:
As Nick says anything else gets left to receive a message if it's important.
The only time I come unstuck is when the hospital call me for heart follow up ('cos let's face it, they can't do face to face any more, can they? ::)) as then the display just shows 'Withheld' as it's come through their switchboard.
Quote from: Redcap244 on May 14, 2022, 07:13:21 PM
I have devoped the system of answering any unknown number as..
"Main Guardroom, security detachment, Cpl J*****S Sir"
don't know why, but 99% then disconnect :-[
perhaps it's my accent :hmmm:
It's probably because they don't know how to pronounce J*****s
I would guess at "Jankers" ?
I know the answer but I like the way you're thinking too :smiley-laughing:
ive at last done away with a landline altogether--having finally dumped talk talk in favour of a new fibre line into my house. Havent used a landline phone for years..my mobile phone sim is tesco for about £6 a month--more call time than i could ever use and millions of texts.