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Title: paint pens
Post by: guest311 on December 13, 2019, 04:50:55 PM
I recently bought a number of these, after seeing the same type used on a youtube 1/72 aircraft build video...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Paint-Marker-Pen-Waterproof-Oil-Markers-Pens-Car-Tyre-Tire-Tyres-Metal-White/202330378421?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=502307524238 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Paint-Marker-Pen-Waterproof-Oil-Markers-Pens-Car-Tyre-Tire-Tyres-Metal-White/202330378421?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=502307524238)

arrived today, and this afternoon gave them a try ...................

they are  :poop:

not at all a fine point, I could paint finer with paint and a decent brush...

a real job to get to actually supply paint, even after following the instructions, not something I am known for doing  :-[

so, on my experience do not touch these with a barge pole.
Title: Re: paint pens
Post by: Paddy on December 13, 2019, 04:56:06 PM
Thanks for the heads up @class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311) - always good to hear about good and bad products.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: paint pens
Post by: njee20 on December 13, 2019, 05:16:20 PM
I like the Posca ones, they're about a 1mm tip, so not crazy fine, but acceptable. I use them for lining without them looking ridiculous. A useful addition to the arsenal!
Title: Re: paint pens
Post by: RailGooner on December 13, 2019, 05:33:05 PM
Another vote for Posca. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: paint pens
Post by: Dorsetmike on December 13, 2019, 06:35:48 PM
Posca again, yo0u can get different size tips to suit different jobs.
If I want really fine lines I use a Rotring technical drawing pen and opaque inks,nibs from 0.1mm , then 0.13, 0.18 and upwards

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rotring-Isograph-Technical-Drawing-0-25mm/dp/B000USLJUC/ref=sr_1_10?keywords=rotring%2Bpens&qid=1576262072&sr=8-10&th=1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rotring-Isograph-Technical-Drawing-0-25mm/dp/B000USLJUC/ref=sr_1_10?keywords=rotring%2Bpens&qid=1576262072&sr=8-10&th=1)
Title: Re: paint pens
Post by: njee20 on December 13, 2019, 06:45:12 PM
£32 each!  :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: paint pens
Post by: Bigmac on December 13, 2019, 07:28:58 PM
I bought a cheap pack of 3 pens...gold silver and copper. They have been ideal to paint the chimney rims and steam valve covers on UM western locos
Title: Re: paint pens
Post by: guest311 on December 13, 2019, 07:30:09 PM
which ones ?
Title: Re: paint pens
Post by: Bigmac on December 13, 2019, 08:16:13 PM
I bought a cheap pack of 3 pens...gold silver and copper. They have been ideal to paint the chimney rims and steam valve covers on UM western locos
Quote from: class37025 on December 13, 2019, 07:30:09 PM
which ones ?
On eBay..3 for about £2:50. Can't remember which ones I bought.
Title: Re: paint pens
Post by: RailGooner on December 13, 2019, 08:32:05 PM
You can find some good prices for Rotring on ebay now and again. I still only lust after them, never brave (nor flush) enough to click buy! :'(
Title: Re: paint pens
Post by: chrism on December 13, 2019, 08:34:40 PM
They are pricey because they are good.
I used them years ago for technical drawing work, including producing the drawings from which some of the new side rods for Urie S15 No.499 were manufactured.

Never thought of using them with paint though, only indian ink.
Title: Re: paint pens
Post by: RailGooner on December 13, 2019, 09:13:24 PM
Quote from: chrism on December 13, 2019, 08:34:40 PM
They are pricey because they are good.
...

Not disputed - buy cheap, buy twice.
Title: Re: paint pens
Post by: guest311 on December 13, 2019, 09:19:35 PM
Quote from: RailGooner on December 13, 2019, 09:13:24 PM
Quote from: chrism on December 13, 2019, 08:34:40 PM
They are pricey because they are good.
...

Not disputed - buy cheap, buy twice.

or never buy again  :veryangry:
Title: Re: paint pens
Post by: Dorsetmike on December 13, 2019, 10:10:36 PM
Buy one (or two) Rotring pens and a selection of different size nibs.

The inks are available in the following colours

Yellow Red Green Brown White Blue Black,

I've used the pens with these inks to do lining on locos  - in the days when my hands were steadier!
Title: Re: paint pens
Post by: njee20 on December 13, 2019, 10:11:21 PM
Thanks Mike. How do they work on darker surfaces? One of my key uses of paint pens is cant rail lining or adding fine details onto painted models (ignoring the fact they don't do an orange ink). Someone recommended Pigma Micron pens, but I found them useless on darker finishes, the ink is nowhere near opaque enough.

I fear they'd clog very quickly if you used paint in them? The 0.2mm is only £16, tempted to try one if they're any good.
Title: Re: paint pens
Post by: Dorsetmike on December 14, 2019, 12:23:51 PM
My lining was done on SR Maunsell dark olive green. Straight lines worked OK but some of the freehand  curved bits could do with redoing with steadier hands than mine. The boiler bands were done with Fox LNER white/black/white transfer. The outer black lines don't show up too well on the photos

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