Hi there, some time back I found a model number and year of manufacture list for Farish locomotives and other rolling stock.
I have done a search for it in Google but cant seem to find the link, can anyone please point me in the right direction.
Here is a good one that's updated every now and again...... http://www.ngauge.org.uk/ (http://www.ngauge.org.uk/)
It doesn't have any kettles on it though.
hi ORB :wave:
just about to post that link :doh:
Newportnobby also put a link under "F" in the knowlage bank but it has no dates
hope this helps
dave :thumbsup:
Thanks Chris and Dave, that website is perfect for what I want, I am not interested in kettles and pleased it covers other makes :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Quote from: oldrailbug on October 20, 2012, 10:44:34 PM
Hi there, some time back I found a model number and year of manufacture list for Farish locomotives and other rolling stock.
Here's some useful links:
For pre-2001 Graham Farish Poole stock: http://www.geocities.ws/dvdlcs/GrahamFarish.html (http://www.geocities.ws/dvdlcs/GrahamFarish.html)
For Graham Farish after Bachman takeover: http://www.bachmann.co.uk/past_and_present.php (http://www.bachmann.co.uk/past_and_present.php)
From British 'N' Gauge Resource site: http://www.ngauge.org.uk/index.htm (http://www.ngauge.org.uk/index.htm)
HTH Brian
...and for wagons, there's this:-
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/gansg/index.htm#avmod (http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/gansg/index.htm#avmod)
Perhaps we should have a list on here... ??? Any volunteers to make the lists?! ;)
Bumping this post after surfing onto it while looking for info about the approximate ages of, and other information about, Graham Farish Standard 4MT Tank locos with running numbers 80048 and 80064, both early BR emblem.
no. 80064 in particular is quite common / numerous on auction sites, but curiously does not feature either in the 'Farish by Bachmann' list on Bachmann's own site (I expected that, as I am sure it is a Poole-built model), or in the pre-Bachmann list under the second link in the fifth post in this thread.
The third link in the fifth post is unfortunately now broken.
How many versions of Standard 4MT tanks / early crest numbered 80048 and 80064 have been produced by Farish (Poole) and Farish (Bachmann)?
Does anyone know approximately which periods / years (from and to) these models were produced, and which type of motors (3 pole? 5 Pole?) were they fitted with?
I have an 80064.
The model was originally introduced mid 90's if I recall correctly. Mine was a Christmas present from (I think) 1997.
80064 was definitely a Poole model and as far as I am aware that specific running number was never made by Bachmann.
Always a five pole motor. One of Farish's better locos. Mine is kept out of sentimental value.
I don't know how many livery variants Bachmann did, I'm thinking three or four including one weathered. I had one, long sold on.
I'm not sure numbers produced by Poole was ever publicised for any model, some say it could usually be measured in hundreds not thousands. Bachmann say they do 1008 of every mainstream model.
Of course the new Bachmann one when it arrives will be in a completely different league...
Regards
Roy
I bought mine in about 1992 and its still going strong along with 80079 of similar vintage. I think it may have been in the late 80's. One of them had the 5 pole armature with copper commutator although both blocks will take the later silver commutator armature.
Dodger
Dodger, you don't actually say which of the two yours is but since you followed on from Roy LS's post about his 80064, I assume you mean the same model. From what the two of you have said about that model it's looking as though it had one fairly long run or shorter repeated runs from the mid-late 80s and well into the 90s... if so that would explain their continuing availability on the second hand market.
As regards 80048, that one is actually in Farish (Bachmann's) online list as their catalogue number 372-530 but the list does not state from / to dates and I do wonder whether there was an earlier Poole built 80048.
There are PDFs of old Farish catalogues available here for perusal: http://www.ness-st.co.uk/N-gauge-catalogues.html (http://www.ness-st.co.uk/N-gauge-catalogues.html)
Wow, Railsquid, that's an absolutely fantastic resource. I've just spent some time sifting through all the ones likely to feature the locos I have mentioned.
There are some gaps in the coverage, or perhaps Graham Farish didn't publish a new catalogue or supplement every year in those days, but no. 80064 first appears in 1991 in those catalogues, is still there in the 1997 catalogue but has gone after 1999. 80079 (Late crest) appears at about the same time and has an even longer run.
I looked through all of the catalogues as far as they go on that site, up to 2005 (by which time we are into the 'Farish By Bachmann' period) and I could not find no. 80048 anywhere. My own collection of Farish catalogues then takes over in 2007, jumps to 2009 and then is continuous from there until the present (2016 as I write this). 80048 is not present in any of those either.
As an aside, I thought it was wonderful the way Farish trains sets of the 80s / 90s included not only a loco + vehicles, but included a whole set of buildings to add to the play / creativity / imaginative value - not like the uninspiring train + minimal track + that's it - sets of today.
It turns out that 372-530 (Farish Standard 4MT Tank 80048, early crest, weathered) is a surprisingly difficult model to date.
The only dating evidence for it that I can find anywhere is this archived page which suggests that it was about to arrive late in 2007.
http://uk.rec.models.rail.narkive.com/0wrBQqq2/graham-farish-updated-2007-delivery-schedule (http://uk.rec.models.rail.narkive.com/0wrBQqq2/graham-farish-updated-2007-delivery-schedule)
If current trends are anything to go by that may mean that it was first announced / featured in a catalogue or supplement up to 3-4 years earlier.
Hi guys
Some great links in there for everybody.
I was inspired by CaderRail's British N Gauge Resource and am working on a picture gallery of all Graham Farish Diesel releases. Some of it is already up and it should be complete by mid-year.
If you go to thefarishshed.com and look under "Production Gallery" you will see the releases listed so far.
I would like to do something for steam, except I don't have that much subject material to photograph!
Dan
The mystery deepens.
Since I couldn't find 80048 (352-530) in the above online catalogue resource which goes up to 2005, and given the aforementioned archived reference which had the model arriving late in 2007, I bought a 2006 catalogue to fill the obvious gap between the online catalogues and my own collection of catalogues.
.. 80048 isn't in the 2006 catalogue either! The only catalogue I still don't have or have access to is the 2008 catalogue. Does anyone know if it was in that one?
372 530
http://www.bachmann.co.uk/pdfs/farish_products_by_item_no_rev4.pdf (http://www.bachmann.co.uk/pdfs/farish_products_by_item_no_rev4.pdf)
Thanks Oscar, I was aware of that list but unfortunately it lacks the very bit of info I'm looking for - namely, in which year or years was this model available?
The closest I've come is the link about three posts ago, in which an independent source quotes it as due to be available / due to arrive in late 2007. Unless things have changed recently that would normally suggest that the model was announced / featured in a catalogue somewhat earlier.
In the 2006 catalogue, the 4MT tanks are 80038 (late crest, weathered, 372-527) and 80036 (early crest, 372-528).
In the 2007 catalogue, they are 80130 (late crest, 372-529) and, I've just noticed this, 80136 (early crest, weathered, 372-530).
372-530 - the part number of the model eventually released with the running number 80048.
For some reason, it was changed after the 2007 catalogue was published, an unusual decision I would have thought. Why might they have made such a late change? The real 80136 not only did exist but still survives and, according to Wikipedia, is nearing the end of overhaul at Crewe.
It would still be interesting to know if 372-530 eventually appeared in the 2008 catalogue with its final running number of 80048.