https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/873635/Stay_at_home_guidance_diagram.pdf
Guidance on when to isolate and what to do if you develop symptoms when in isolation
advice on association :
as a thought, I have started to ask people if they wish to have parcels sent, or would prefer to wait.
might be over the top, but without knowing people's situations, seemed appropriate.
I think nothing that may help people through this difficult time is over the top. Good for you for thinking of others in this way.
:beers:
Just a quick pm to a member or a call, a text also goes along way just to say hi.
Am I missing something on the advice on the JPG? That says everyone should be under 14 day household isolation, that's not the guidance. They've advised those over 70, those with underlying health conditions and pregnant women to self-isolate for 12 weeks.
If you show symptoms you should isolate for 7 days. Everyone else in the household, or those who you have recently had close contact with you should self-isolate for 14 days, or 7 days after starting to show symptoms.
It's also not "household isolation", indeed getting outside for a walk (away from people) is desireable.
The PDF guidance makes sense, but the JPG is misleading.
Note that the jpeg has a number of asterisk symbols on some box wordings that is not shown in explanation. This probably accounts for the confusion.
NHS website advice:
QuoteHow long to stay at home
If you have symptoms
If you have symptoms of coronavirus, you'll need to stay at home for 7 days.
After 7 days:
if you do not have a high temperature, you do not need to stay at home
if you still have a high temperature, stay at home until your temperature returns to normal
You do not need to stay at home if you just have a cough after 7 days. A cough can last for several weeks after the infection has gone.
If you live with someone who has symptoms
If you live with someone who has symptoms, you'll need to stay at home for 14 days from the day their symptoms started. This is because it can take 14 days for symptoms to appear.
If more than 1 person at home has symptoms, stay at home for 14 days from the day the first person started having symptoms.
If you get symptoms, stay at home for 7 days from when your symptoms start, even if it means you're at home for longer than 14 days.
If you do not get symptoms, you can stop staying at home after 14 days.
If you have symptoms and live with a vulnerable person
If you live with someone who is 70 or over, has a long-term condition, is pregnant or has a weakened immune system, try to arrange for them to stay with friends or family for 14 days.
If you have to stay at home together, try to keep away from each other as much as possible.
Had an Email from some Tesco bigwig saying that they would close at 10pm and concentrate overnight on shelf filling for the following day and were going to try and make the period from 9am to 10am for us old and decrepit ones so would the rest of the general public honour this; neighbour of mine, (he's a bit younger than me only just turned 80) went out early this morning and almost got trampled by the mob at Asda - maybe they didn't get the same message?
I'll have to take my chance tomorrow nearly out of milk.
One thing that occurs to me, I can see some of the logic behind the "first hour for the older citizens" but against it I wonder how we are supposed to get there in rush hour on crowded buses (2 metre separation ????????) or if driving adding to the traffic jams and the likely increased air pollution therein.
our local Tesco opens at 06:00, so by the time the oldies slot starts at 09:00 all the lemmings have emptied the shelves >:(
also, today got 8 x 2lt bottles of water, but had x5 removed at the checkout as only allowed x3 ....
but I could have bought 3 x 8 bottle packs of 2lt bottles, that would have been ok ...
though of course given Tesco a lot more profits :censored:
Birmingham city council had advised that the 9:30 start for free bus/tram/train passes is suspended until further notice. So we can get a much earlier bus.
Quote from: Dorsetmike on March 19, 2020, 04:47:14 PM
Had an Email from some Tesco bigwig saying that they would close at 10pm and concentrate overnight on shelf filling for the following day and were going to try and make the period from 9am to 10am for us old and decrepit ones so would the rest of the general public honour this
Got the same mail so tested Tesco this morning twixt 9 and 10.
No loo roll
No tinned tomatoes
Virtually no pet food
No painkillers
When I asked what the rules were on milk I was told only 2 items per person. I wanted 3 x 2pt but was told I could have 2 x 4pt instead. :doh: Trouble is they don't fit in the fridge door.
Lots of oldies in there but also lots of youngsters. ::)
Could not believe the usual sights with eerie empty shelves trolley loads, but two idiots having fisticuffs . Yes. It happened.staff could not cope. Got my bag load and exited promptly. Hope we will not be on ration books or seeing army personnel down every aisle
Quote from: Newportnobby on March 20, 2020, 11:43:10 AM
Lots of oldies in there but also lots of youngsters. ::)
Not surprised about the number of youngsters Mick. :no:
After all, at our age, nearly everyone is a youngster! :D
Have you tried a little local corner shop? A lot of them still seem to have full shelves of tinned goods etc. Our village greengrocer has plenty of veg and fruit while the supermarkets have been swept clean.
Cheers,
Chris
Chris. That's the way forward. Mccolls where I live have a good supply and my local shop manager has rationed 4 bog rolls per household, 6 tins 1 marg, 1 bread, milk per family. The local shops tend to be more helpful. Solid piece of helpful advice chris
Quote from: crewearpley40 on March 20, 2020, 11:46:56 AM
Hope we will not be on ration books
The great British public obviously can't be trusted to be sensible so, IMHO, rationing should have been brought in a couple of weeks ago.
Just got back from a raid on Tesco and Lidl, got most of what I wanted, had to get a 4pt and 2pt milk as they had no 6pt. Strange, some aisles empty of stock, others bulging no apparent logic to quite a bit of it. Didn't bother with an early start, too fond of brekky, then have to check emails and forums, so left here about 10:45
Had to chuckle though, Tesco were limiting customers to 3 of an item, not a problem with the little pots of steamed puds, sticky toffee, golden syrup etc, OK sir they're different flavours; whilst at next checkout ssome wench wanted about a dozen bottles of wine, no more than 3 of any variety, tough, 3 bottles of wine, no matter what variety. Lidl less empty shelves, except bog rolls.
I ventured into town yesterday on market day with the wife. It was easy to park at about 11:45 but there was only half the number of stalls compared to usual. Of course Gerry was there selling his excellent sausages (http://www.thebutchersdogsausagecompany.co.uk/) and that was all I needed. Then went to Iceland, a few empty shelves but not too many. Majestic had plenty of beer, that's me happy with a few new ones to try. Then Morrisons. 12:45 I picked up my prescriptions in less than 10 minutes which is incredibly quick for that place. Bought a few things there. No toilet rolls, limited amount of bread but reasonable stock of everything else. Heard later that it was manic when it first opened so the lesson to be learned is NOT to go early in my opinion. Ok so you may not get exactly what you want but there are alternatives to bread and pizza you know. Another tip, look right at the back of the bottom shelves in the meat department. They're so deep you can't see back there. I found about 6 packs of mince there. Wifey wanted 3, old couple near us wanted 1, so I pulled them all to the front to help them out. Beer stocks were quite good although drain cleaner (lager) was pretty much sold out.
The moral of this story is that man can live on sausages and beer. You don't need anything else! Maybe a toilet roll or 2 would be good though.
There is hope, the toilet paper'n'tissue aisle in my local supermarket here in Tokyo last week:
(https://japan-train-blog.infogogo.com/static/misc/toilet-paper-2020-03-11a.jpg)
This week:
(https://japan-train-blog.infogogo.com/static/misc/toilet-paper-2020-03-19a.jpg)
(We are about 3 weeks ahead of the global toilet paper depletion cycle)
Quote from: railsquid on March 20, 2020, 02:05:24 PM
(https://japan-train-blog.infogogo.com/static/misc/toilet-paper-2020-03-11a.jpg)
Were those the ones made from nettles? ;)
We've been going to our local Morrisons and Lidll earlyish (about 8.15am) and both, though busier than normal at that time, were not too bad.
Having said that, we have a good number of supermarkets in a relatively small area. They are there to cope with the holidaymakers of which currently there are few.
Also Morrisons have a demographic that is much higher than the likes of Asda and Tesco which have, I'm led to believe, have been much busier locally.
Failing all else, our village shop is well stocked and is an easy source of bread, milk and other essentials.
Popped to Hobbycraft on the outskirts of Truro this afternoon for URGENT supplies of modelling paint of which there was no shortage.
Whilst there we popped into Waitrose which is opposite. Just to pick up some coconut milk which we forgot this morning.
They weren't overly busy either.
Who knows what will happen in the coming weeks though.
No tea bags in my local Tesco so its getting serious now :)
@port perran (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=230) Also you are in Cornwall, so everyone has read about the toiler paper shortage and will get around to buying extra dreckly...
For those who don't know a Cornish friend described 'dreckly' (aka directly) as "like mañana but without the terrible sense of urgency"
So far the fact we have a milk/stuff delivery service appears to be working out for the good, other than having to be careful with the outside of just delivered glass bottles. They can also supply tea bags, cheese and other stuff if we need it.
Quote from: EtchedPixels on March 20, 2020, 02:46:59 PM
.......... having to be careful with the outside of just delivered glass bottles.
This has also concerned me at times so I make sure I have plenty indoors so the new ones can stay outside for a while and I can drink the others first :beers:
Port Perran,
You are indeed well served with Supermarkets locally.
Hobbycraft and Waitrose in Truro, two of our favourite places to drop in on (in normal times).
I can only imagine that Cornwall will be pretty void of tourists this Summer. A fair old whack of the local GDP/income comes from tourism. Cornwall Council rakes it in from their (ever spiralling) car parking charges, but will take a hit this year.
Our daughter said that many of the shops in Falmouth had decided it was not worth opening up, cafe's and take-aways being the first to do so.
With our health issues we have been in self imposed lock down for the last week. Still, I have a number of woodwork and gardening projects to catch up with, and of course some modelling...probably more modelling!
I imagine many if not most of us have un-started or part built projects to fall back on? Perhaps some of those models you couldn't be that bothered to start will suddenly take on a new light.
Take care everyone, and if you can then adopt the Hermit mode where practical.
Here on the left hand coast of Canada, we've got mixed panic buying, but there's still plenty on shelves. TP is the exception though I went to a local pharmacy to get a prescription yesterday and they had a ton of the stuff, people just have to calm the heck down.
our social distancing seems to have caught on, honestly I love it, don't like people at the best of times and now they're avoiding me too! We're luckier than most as I can work from home easily, my wife works from home all the time and its spring break for my daughter and she is homeschooled with all online courses so its really no different for us than normal.
I have to admit though, giving kids a schedule really helps, Miranda did hers herself and she's sticking to it really well (she's a dancer though so used to discipline, she got herself up at 6:40 this morning and went straight out to her studio to do an hours warm up!.. geez why wasnt I that dedicated when I was a kid!)
G.
Quote from: trkilliman on March 20, 2020, 03:40:37 PM
Port Perran,
You are indeed well served with Supermarkets locally.
Hobbycraft and Waitrose in Truro, two of our favourite places to drop in on (in normal times).
Steve,just in case you did make it to Hobbycraft, they,ve moved all the modelling tools and paint upstairs.
Martin
Quote from: port perran on March 20, 2020, 06:18:23 PM
Quote from: trkilliman on March 20, 2020, 03:40:37 PM
Port Perran,
You are indeed well served with Supermarkets locally.
Hobbycraft and Waitrose in Truro, two of our favourite places to drop in on (in normal times).
Steve,just in case you did make it to Hobbycraft, they,ve moved all the modelling tools and paint upstairs.
Martin
Unless you're in Swinedon
Now is the time to experiment with growing a beard or moustache, or a new hairstyle :)
My wife has the answer we should all have been wearing Yashmaks not sure of the spelling .Then we would all have been safe .And no one would know who we are would look weird at the annual photo shoot at TINGS though.
Bob Tidbury
Wherever possible work from home
Hallo :(
Here it seems IIIrd world war.....we are all "closed" in our home.....going out only for "food shopping" (only one can go) , pharmacies/medicals/care....with a "special permit" to exhibit when stopped for police controls...all "non essential" shops , factories and activities closed.
Schools and universities closed for an indeterminate tiime...
Big famous cities like Rome, Milan, Venice they seems ghost town....as you know typical italian traffic, trouble and "hi loud chatting"..
Military trucks hauling coffins to the cemeteries and crematories 'cause funerals are forbidden..,all the public ceremonies are forbidden...
It's not a good thing.
Marco
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Some facts about when to wear a mask and "Myth Busters" from the W.H.O
https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/when-and-how-to-use-masks (https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/when-and-how-to-use-masks)
I see that thousands of folks have taken the sunshine of the weekend to signify a holiday, and have flooded scenic and tourist spots around the UK.
So much for social isolation.
Maybe this had something to do with it, from yesterday's Daily Mail:
https://mobile.twitter.com/AlynSmith/status/1241393070152863746/photo/1
Please, please, please follow the advice - hopefully soon law - to avoid social interactions. Other than washing hands it is our best line of defence against this virus. Don't become a killer just so you can say you had a nice time on the beach, or climbed a mountain like Snowdon with hundreds of others.
@daffy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5634)
Totally agree with you there.
Having said that my youngest son (35) came round with his wife and three children and two small dogs to see us today, well mainly his mother as its Mothers Day, we haven't seen or visited our grandchildren for over two weeks now.
It felt so strange and so hard to keep our distances from each other in the front garden, like my wife I wanted to give them all a hug but we all kept to our 2 meter spacing! Its times like this makes it all sink in how serious this situation is. :(
I just put a safe box round my mothers door with a key and as she is disabled a tray screwed on so post person can deliver and the mail drops not to the floor but into that tray. Then a quick call went a long way. I'm the only one out of 5 of us to have bothered taling time to call.
We are contacting our children and grandchildren purely by phone and FaceTime. It is hardest for the youngest, twins aged 3, who tell us to keep safe but can't properly understand why we are not visiting them, and why they can't come to stay with us.
Their Dad, working from home to help keep us all supplied with essentials, looks worn out already from the strain of his job and now having to entertain and educate his 3 children.
It's is a painful emotional time for us all.
There is a new normal.
We are fortunate to live in an estate of 67 houses with a very strong community spirit. A few days ago one of our neighbours set up a WhatsApp group for the whole street to join if they wanted and it has been a resounding success, with people collecting prescriptions for elderly neighbours, getting shopping, swapping advice etc.
This evening one resident, a lay preacher, said that the Archbishop of Canterbury had suggested people should place a candle in their window this evening to show that 'hope conquers gloom'. A lot of people responded positively and even though we are not religious in any way, we did too.
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/89/2975-220320205311.jpeg)
Stay safe, everybody. Better times will come again.
Chris
That is very helpful. Appreciate one sharing this idea
They are going to close all the pubs in Scotland....... There is going to be a riot. :smiley-laughing:
or a lot of break ins at distilleries :hmmm:
thought alcohol killed the virus :-[
been upping my intake to stay healthy, except first thing in the morning :'(
I realise that I am over simplifying things and it would not be entirely practical, (and probably not too popular on 'ere ;) :sorrysign:), but there should be no 'advice' - the restrictions should be mandatory, utilising the Armed Forces. Fail to comply without reasonable excuse - you get arrested and put in a camp somewhere. As long as people are allowed to travel without restriction, the virus will spread. (I have mentioned this elsewhere, but there is a very good novel by Peter May entitled 'Lockdown' - a good crime story, set against a backdrop of a pandemic in London :worried:).
you get arrested and put in a camp
sorry, and this will no doubt get deleted for being political,
but politicians, of all ilks, have closed down / flogged off most of our military establishments, barracks, hospitals, etc
all to get some dosh / give their mates a big profit.
so, short of turning the Isle of Wight into a prison camp, the only option would be some tents, a load of barbed wire, and some compo rations on Salisbury plain.
:hmmm: :hmmm:
that would work for me ...
especially if there were live firing exercises all round :smiley-laughing:
No need to apologise as far as I'm concerned David @dannyboy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4209) :no: Watching the News today they had a camera outside a shopping centre and someone in a mask was encouraging shoppers entering to wear masks, as clearly some weren't. Not all appeared to be overly concerned to comply.
And that has been my experience over the Covid period, especially in the large stores I've visited (less and less frequently now), where mask wearing is usually adhered to, though lately some seem to be paying lip (or nose?) service to the practise. Tesco staff, for instance, may encourage mask wearing, but there is no insistence, and as for social distancing........ :veryangry:
I've given up asking folks to keep their distance as the replies are frequently aggressive (yes, chap in B&Q, that includes you!), and though stores have markings on the floor and signs advising 2 metre distancing, lately I have noticed they are, to all intents and purposes, ignored.
I get the overall impression that despite the rise in cases, the threat of Covid seems less of a fear for many many people. Perhaps it is because of a strikingly lower death rate than back in April; or perhaps it is because folks are suffering from Covid avoidance fatigue - or are just bored or confused by the whole thing. And staff trying to keep themselves and us safe are not the ones who should enforce any guidelines to combat this, as they will be subject, as has been exampled many times in the news, to verbal and even physical abuse
So I would be happy to see a member of the Armed Forces standing at the entrances to shopping centres and larger stores, telling folks, in no uncertain terms, that masks have to be worn, distancing must be observed, and any failure to comply will see people turned away. Any argument would be an immediate fine.
The time for saying the public is 'advised' or 'encouraged' to follow the guidelines should end . Common sense and regard for others are both evidently in short supply. It is time to get tough.
member of the Armed Forces standing at the entrances to shopping centres and larger stores, telling folks, in no uncertain terms, that masks have to be worn, distancing must be observed, and any failure to comply will see people turned away. Any argument would be an immediate fine.
think you made a spelling mistake there ... should possibly have read
member of the Armed Forces standing at the entrances to shopping centres and larger stores, telling folks, in no uncertain terms, that masks have to be worn, distancing must be observed, and any failure to comply will see people turned away. Any argument would be an immediate fire.
but then, I do not tolerate idiots
Quote from: class37025 on October 07, 2020, 07:49:53 PM
the only option would be some tents, a load of barbed wire, and some compo rations on Salisbury plain.
...........
especially if there were live firing exercises all round
>:D :) :thumbsup:
In the last lockdown I had three big tear ups in our local Tesco over social distancing and pr*cks not following the direction arrows stuck on the floor.
The cocky 25 ish year old shite clutching his cluster of "wife beaters" who wound me up got close to getting something he didn't bargain for, bricked it and backed down, the store fell silent for a moment in my response to him.
Completely agree with everyone concerned, its no laughing matter especially as the flu and cold season is upon us.
Quote from: class37025 on October 07, 2020, 07:49:53 PM
the only option would be some tents, a load of barbed wire, and some compo rations on Salisbury plain.
Why Salisbury Plain? That's too close to me thank you. How about on the Solent island fort not converted into a hotel. There's still 1 available to put them all on together so they can spread whatever they have between them?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Horse_Sand_Fort_-_geograph.org.uk_-_1087244.jpg)
Quote from: Trainfish on October 07, 2020, 08:44:21 PM
Quote from: class37025 on October 07, 2020, 07:49:53 PM
the only option would be some tents, a load of barbed wire, and some compo rations on Salisbury plain.
Why Salisbury Plain? That's too close to me thank you. How about on the Solent island fort not converted into a hotel. There's still 1 available to put them all on together so they can spread whatever they have between them?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Horse_Sand_Fort_-_geograph.org.uk_-_1087244.jpg)
Why give them shelter? Open air's supposedly better.
I nominate Rockall - should be enough room for them (just) at low tide. If there isn't, the overcrowding will be solved come high tide :D
They want to be close to each other so less open air is more suited to their wishes. There's a good mix of both on this one.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HOBEjiiBm2w/maxresdefault.jpg)
And what we have left of the navy could use it as shooting practice too :thumbsup:
this is getting heated ( and silly)
Suggest we all calm down and take 2 paracetamol or stiff drink PRN !
Praise the Lord and pass the sanitiser !( with apology to chaplain – Lieutenant Howell Forgy)
sod the restrictions,survival of the fittest has kept mankind intact for a good few years.So you avoid covid by living a nice isolated lifestyle keeping 2 meters away from everybody,remember that includes family members who don't live with you so dont start complaining that you cant give your grandaughter a hug ,you took the isolated option.And whats the point of prolonging your life anyway if you cant enjoy it?were all guaranteed a death at some point,make the most of it
Quote from: Trainfish on October 07, 2020, 09:14:14 PM
They want to be close to each other so less open air is more suited to their wishes. There's a good mix of both on this one.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HOBEjiiBm2w/maxresdefault.jpg)
And what we have left of the navy could use it as shooting practice too :thumbsup:
For what its worth being an absolute southerner and a sailor I could quite easily live on one of of them! :-[
Me too but not that one. Mind you a great roundy roundy layout could be created :thumbsup:
I could live on this one (https://solentforts.com/).
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/22/16/28F9A31100000578-3072342-image-a-27_1432307887365.jpg)
Or this one:
(https://www.unusualhotelsoftheworld.com/Images/Blogs/ContentImages/LR60%20solent%20forts0.jpg)
Never heard of those converted places before. Magnificent!
I could happily isolate on those for a few weeks. Wonder what the fishing is like?
I had a grandstand view of the TRAFALGAR review from one courtesy of a donation I made to a young homeless persons charity. Champaign and creamed teas, very nice.
Quote from: NinOz on October 07, 2020, 11:42:08 PM
Wonder what the fishing is like?
I'm not a fisherman but I did agree many years ago whilst in the pub to go sea fishing with some mates, as you do. They told me the bus would leave at 5am on the day in question. What they didn't tell me until about 1am was that it was 5am that day! Needless to say we kept drinking until the minibus got to the pub and piled on with more beer. On arrival we got into a silly little boat and went fishing. If I remember correctly there were 8 of us. 7 threw up over the side and we caught 1 dogfish between us. Surprisingly we brought quite a bit of beer back with us too.
So in my opinion, the fishing there is rubbish :o
:laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing:
Things are looking up here in QLD. Can now travel to northern rivers districts in NSW, just need to stick a permit on the dash and wait for a little bit in a queue as permits to re-enter QLD are sighted. No 2 week quarantine required. Wonder how long this will last. :(
Had a little bit of delay last Friday as I had a "G" permit, not an "X" permit. I had printed the permit on wednesday night at a little after 11pm but the "X" permit replaced the "G" permit at midnight, nothing mentioned this on gov website and the permit was marked as valid for 7 days. Apparently quite a few people were caught out. The police were quite polite and patient (probably having done this dozens of times) and helped us to fill out the correct forms on our mobile phones.
So what's the difference between a G and an X? :confused2:
Quote from: Bealman on October 08, 2020, 03:48:28 AM
So what's the difference between a G and an X? :confused2:
X marks the spot is easier to find?
Apparently a fraction of a second. :)
Haven't got a clue really, seem identical in effect.
Perhaps as Weave said, an X-spot is easier to find than a G-spot.
:laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing:
Quote from: NinOz on October 07, 2020, 11:42:08 PM
Never heard of those converted places before. Magnificent!
I could happily isolate on those for a few weeks. Wonder what the fishing is like?
Fishing has always been good in the Solent but not a place for small boats as it has a tidal anomalies!
Quote from: Mr Sprue on October 08, 2020, 10:59:25 AM
Fishing has always been good in the Solent but not a place for small boats as it has a tidal anomalies!
Having paddled in a canoe across the Solent from Calshot Spit to Newtown Bay and back across the Solent to Lymington, I can attest to that!
Though the tide could be countered by careful timing and good navigation, it was another matter dealing with yachts and enormous ships. :o
In keeping with the theme of this thread, I felt very isolated mid-stream. :D
"So what's the difference between a G and an X?"
15 letters.
Quote from: dannyboy on October 08, 2020, 11:41:23 AM
"So what's the difference between a G and an X?"
15 letters.
15? :confused1: So which one did you miss out David? :hmmm:
I missed I - glad you spotted today's deliberate mistake Mike. ;).
(My excuse is that I have been to the Dentist this morning and had a filling - the Dentist is a nice lady, but I think she has a sadistic streak! :'().
Quote from: Mr Sprue on October 08, 2020, 10:59:25 AM
Quote from: NinOz on October 07, 2020, 11:42:08 PM
Never heard of those converted places before. Magnificent!
I could happily isolate on those for a few weeks. Wonder what the fishing is like?
Fishing has always been good in the Solent but not a place for small boats as it has a tidal anomalies!
I'd have said that the presence of big, bigger and enormous boats moving back and forth is more of a concern for small boats than the tides ;)
Quote from: Trainfish on October 08, 2020, 12:40:32 AM
On arrival we got into a silly little boat and went fishing. If I remember correctly there were 8 of us. 7 threw up over the side and we caught 1 dogfish between us.
So in my opinion, the fishing there is rubbish :o
Nothing to do with the fish not liking vomit for vittles, then?
Mum and I went to Tesco yesterday morning and as we entered a cocky teen came in without a mask. Before I knew it Mum had shouted 'Oi! Where's your mask?' 'Heck' I thought. She's going to cop a mouthful now but he just said 'Forgot it' and carried on as if nowt was amiss.
If it weren't for them infecting others I'd inject these gits with Covid-19 >:(
Don't know if this helps the discussion and may have been addressed before but thought it was good approach to some non mask wearers.
One of my clients, she is 50 odd with a few health issues, was in a convenience store yesterday. A 30 year old woman in front of her in the queue wasn't wearing a mask.
My client said "don't you think that you're being selfish not wearing a mask"?
"I don't believe Covid exists" the woman replied.
Rather than shouting back at her, my client, thinking on her feet, replied "Yes, I know that YOU think that but people like you are going to bring the whole of Britain into complete lockdown and so none of us, including you, will be able to go out for the foreseeable future. Just think about it. Please."
The woman said nothing in reply. Maybe something stuck, maybe not, but maybe better than getting into a situation where 'they' are just going to yell abuse back still thinking they're right and even getting violent which defeats the object of social distancing.
Just a thought.
Stay safe.
Cheers, weave.
I ask them if their granny is dying to see them.
Jean-Paul Sartre was right - hell is other people.
With all the pro-mask info out there, if someone is not wearing a mask when they should when not at home (perhaps that should be all the time now to help reduce transmission rates? :hmmm:) then I have to accept now that they will take no notice of anything I say on the matter.
Until they experience at first hand the effects of Covid (and maybe not even then if they are, say, a President), they will continue their selfish arrogance.
But then they are perhaps already wearing a mask - one that blinds their eyes and minds.
Quoteif someone is not wearing a mask when they should when not at home (all the time
A mask is not mandatory in many places outside the home,and anybody trying to enforce me to wearing a mask in such locations will,at least,end up with a mouthfull.