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Title: A question for the 'collective' please
Post by: Newportnobby on July 04, 2022, 09:28:55 PM
The MOT on my Kawasaki was due 3rd week of June, with road tax due end of June. Like an eejit, I left it until the middle of June before trying to book an MOT and was horrified to be told the earliest would be mid July. Needless to say, I couldn't tax the bike as the DVLA knew the MOT had run out the week before.
I've managed to get an MOT booked for later this week and the bike shop concerned has assured me that, as I am booked in for an MOT the bike is considered as taxed for the day while I ride it there and back.
I'm really not too sure about that and may have to get them to collect it, MOT it and then bring it home.
Does anyone know the legality of what the bike shop tells me please?

I do have a garage literally 250 yards from where I live but it only MOTs four wheeled vehicles so I'd not really trust them with a motor bike :hmmm:
Title: Re: A question for the 'collective' please
Post by: exmouthcraig on July 04, 2022, 09:34:56 PM
Yep as long as you're driving to a prebooked MOT at an approved test station you are legally allowed to drive/ride too and from the station.

They take a dim view on you booking an MOT 100miles away from your home but pretty sure you can argue their your preferred garage.
Title: Re: A question for the 'collective' please
Post by: JunoF52 on July 04, 2022, 09:38:00 PM
Hi Nobby my turn to assist you.  Yes you can take a motor vehicle on a road to the place of an authorised prebooked MOT but you
must stick to a direct route from home (or where it is stored or repaired) to the test centre.  Honestly that is correct - I did spend
a few years driving a "jam sandwich" on theM1.
Geoff
Title: Re: A question for the 'collective' please
Post by: zwilnik on July 04, 2022, 09:40:33 PM
via Pistonheads. Section 22 of this bit https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1994/22/schedule/2 (https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1994/22/schedule/2)

Has to be roadworthy etc. of course and insured I believe. You should also have the details of the testing station and a contact number and name for verification. it doesn't stipulate anything about it being the nearest test centre.
Title: Re: A question for the 'collective' please
Post by: JunoF52 on July 04, 2022, 09:45:56 PM
Definitely MUST be insured,
Geoff
Title: Re: A question for the 'collective' please
Post by: Newportnobby on July 04, 2022, 09:55:23 PM
It is most certainly insured.
Thanks All. I feel much reassured. :sweat:
Title: Re: A question for the 'collective' please
Post by: dannyboy on July 04, 2022, 10:03:29 PM
Just to throw a spanner in with the cat amongst the pigeons - @zwilnik (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=8) in his bit from 'Pistonheads' states that the vehicle must be roadworthy. How do you know the vehicle is roadworthy until it has had its MOT? Just saying ............   >:D ;)
Title: Re: A question for the 'collective' please
Post by: zwilnik on July 04, 2022, 10:06:26 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on July 04, 2022, 10:03:29 PM
Just to throw a spanner in with the cat amongst the pigeons - @zwilnik (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=8) in his bit from 'Pistonheads' states that the vehicle must be roadworthy. How do you know the vehicle is roadworthy until it has had its MOT? Just saying ............   >:D ;)

Given some of the 'roadworthy' ones I've seen in the past that had MOTs, kick all the tyres and start the engine. If anything falls off, consider trailering it.

[edit] (modified required number of tyres to include bikes and trikes ;) )
Title: Re: A question for the 'collective' please
Post by: exmouthcraig on July 04, 2022, 10:10:18 PM
Even the test certificates carry the disclaimer

A valid MOT certificate confirms a car has met the minimum standard of roadworthiness at the time of testing, not for the period of the 12months the test certificate covers

:hmmm:
Title: Re: A question for the 'collective' please
Post by: emjaybee on July 04, 2022, 10:10:28 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 04, 2022, 09:55:23 PM
It is most certainly insured.
Thanks All. I feel much reassured. :sweat:

I concur. As long as the vehicle is booked in for an MOT it's legal to drive it to and from. Unless the MOT centre decrees it as dangerous in which case they are obliged to tell you not to drive it.

You'll be fine mate.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A question for the 'collective' please
Post by: Richardxharrison on July 04, 2022, 10:18:17 PM
Hmm pretty sure most insurance companies (slippery suckers!) say if MOT expired your insurance is invalid.... Happy to be corrected
Title: Re: A question for the 'collective' please
Post by: Newportnobby on July 04, 2022, 11:08:15 PM
Uh-oh. Gulp :worried:
Title: Re: A question for the 'collective' please
Post by: Coyote on July 04, 2022, 11:13:33 PM
Different rules in France, skip to 3:30, where Tim reveals that a pile of wood on wheels is still being driven around before it is restored.

Title: Re: A question for the 'collective' please
Post by: zwilnik on July 04, 2022, 11:16:11 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 04, 2022, 11:08:15 PM
Uh-oh. Gulp :worried:

Give them a ring. If the policy doesn't cover this common scenario they're usually happy to sell you some temporary cover.
Title: Re: A question for the 'collective' please
Post by: stevewalker on July 04, 2022, 11:41:20 PM
I've never heard of insurance that does not cover driving/riding to or from a pre-booked MOT - if it didn't you'd have to have repairs done at the MOT station if it failed. It is also legal to drive to and from a pre-booked place where work to correct failures found in an MOT is to be carried out - but oddly not to drive to and from somewhere for work to be done to fix a problem that you know will cause it to fail an MOT that you have not yet taken it for.

It's even more fun if you build your own car - you can drive it to and from the IVA (formerly SVA) test even though it is unregistered and therefore has no number plates! In that case, insurance is done on the VIN, which the DVLA issues or confirms first and you have to stamp on the chassis/body.
Title: Re: A question for the 'collective' please
Post by: OffshoreAlan on July 05, 2022, 03:17:06 AM
Beware the Insurance Companies - most of the rogues will do anything to avoid paying out. Seek confirmation from your insurance company that you are covered for the circumstances you describe.
Title: Re: A question for the 'collective' please
Post by: Train Waiting on July 05, 2022, 09:03:45 AM
I agree that it is legal to ride to a reasonably convenient location for a MOT test.  I have done it many times with untaxed vintage motorcycles.  Normally, these would not be taxed over the winter.  Likewise, after a restoration or rebuild, which could take a while.

I agree - always go for an experienced motor cycle MOT centre.

As ForumFriends have said, a minimum of third party insurance is a must but you already have that.

I used to ride from the MOT centre to the Post Office to tax the machine!

Happy riding!

John
Title: Re: A question for the 'collective' please
Post by: Newportnobby on July 05, 2022, 01:38:59 PM
Problem solved. Guy from the bike shop came out to me in his car, donned crash hat and gloves, took the bike for its MOT and came back not much more than an hour later. All for the sum of £49 :D
Bike now taxed on line :claphappy:
Title: Re: A question for the 'collective' please
Post by: emjaybee on July 05, 2022, 01:46:20 PM
Well that was two days of replies wasted.

Harrumph.

(Just kiddin')

Glad it's sorted.
Title: Re: A question for the 'collective' please
Post by: OffshoreAlan on July 05, 2022, 03:53:43 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 05, 2022, 01:38:59 PM
Problem solved. Guy from the bike shop came out to me in his car, donned crash hat and gloves, took the bike for its MOT and came back not much more than an hour later. All for the sum of £49 :D

Did that include your use of his car while the bike was away  :D :D