Got mine today !
Am I the first ? Usually I'm the last.
For those interested the Stove R chassis is back in stock in the shop.
Best regards,
Joe de Paris
Hi,
Mine arrived today too! Although the date suggests it will have to wait before I can have a good look!
Pobda :no:
Yep got mine too, probably my last though.
Paul
Quote from: Sprintex on February 14, 2014, 08:39:31 PM
Yep got mine too, probably my last though.
Paul
I was thinking the same Paul.
Got mine today, looks like a better issue than some of last year's.
I don't feel anything productive will come of a list of people posting that this copy will probably be their last.
That decision should be directed at NGS.
Thank you - John.
Quote from: scotsoft on February 14, 2014, 08:54:51 PM
I don't feel anything productive will come of a list of people posting that this copy will probably be their last.
That decision should be directed at NGS.
Thank you - John.
Well mine is for personal reasons and nothing the Society has done, I never use there shop or have I taken interest in there models.
Got mine today - and will happily carry on being a member of the NGS! I have bought quite a few models from them, as well as some Stove R chassis, and have a deposit on the next RTR item; the LNER Thompson Full brake coach! http://www.ngaugesociety.com/index.php?page=thompson-full-brake (http://www.ngaugesociety.com/index.php?page=thompson-full-brake)
Mine arrived today. I've already lost the front cover after trying to extract it from under Grappa (see avatar).
Quote from: captainelectra on February 14, 2014, 09:56:01 PM
Mine arrived today. I've already lost the front cover after trying to extract it from under Grappa (see avatar).
:laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
Quote from: Karhedron on February 14, 2014, 08:53:58 PM
Got mine today, looks like a better issue than some of last year's.
I agree, mine arrived this morning and I thought the same.
Gerry
Got mine today, first skim through elicits a few articles worth an in-depth look. Pity the picture captioned 'Green Bulleid Coaches' in the review of said coaches (page 10) shows a BSK (in front) and a Mark 1 FO (at the back).
Should this thread not be in the general N Gauge Discussion board rather than in the World N Gauge sub-board?
Mine arrived today. Many more will arrive over the coming years.
Really good to have something N Gauge to read. The new March retail mags seem to have virtually abandoned us this month by comparison.
Quote from: talisman56 on February 14, 2014, 10:51:51 PM
Should this thread not be in the general N Gauge Discussion board rather than in the World N Gauge sub-board?
I was waiting for someone to spot that . . . :whistle:
Quite right, moved. Thank you :thumbsup:
Paul
Quote from: captainelectra on February 14, 2014, 09:56:01 PM
Mine arrived today. I've already lost the front cover after trying to extract it from under Grappa (see avatar).
Naughty Grappa. No biccies for him that day, then, I guess!! ;D
Don't forget to hang on to the shop list supplied with the latest issue, as only amendments will be sent out in future, not the full list as usual.
quite sad to see scotland now has no area group :'( am i the only n gauger up here left :D
Quote from: Arrachogaidh on February 15, 2014, 05:34:10 PM
I didn't think much of the Mail Bag section. Still a lot of discussion about a certain person.
As for content I found it fairly comparable to last years content. It can only be as good as what is supplied for publication.
I'm keeping an open mind on the new Editor and hope that the Journal does not become an outlet for elitist dare I say rivet-counter type articles to the detriment of "The Lowest Common Denominator" as many of the membership have been labelled.
The Society needs members to survive so hopefully the Journal will continue to satisfy the majority at whatever level of skill the model in N Gauge. Be it RTR on a table top or full blown high fidelity. :thankyousign:
Not a great deal in it that grabbed my attention this month.
I though a six page article on scrapyards was a little excessive, and I merely skimmed a number of articles including those relating to the "prize length", signal box and tool van.
It was good to see Don Pearson's article "Greenwood Outback" - I have been fortunate to see Don's layout change and grow over the years, and have a play on a number of occasions - it really is fabulous. I also liked "A Deity Nigh" - David Snell's layout article.
But there's the thing. Others may have found much more of the content to their taste, and it must be very hard to find a balance from the pool of articles available.
As to the Journal's future, I think we need to give Grahame a chance. Based on his N'spirations magazines I personally do not see any reason to worry about the content becoming too "elitist". He has his views but that need not translate into the content of the magazine. I am sure he will take into account the diverse interests and skill levels of the many members in what he publishes.
I am looking forward to seeing an already a very professionally produced publication refreshed in many positive ways.
Roy
The signal box article was a good one, for me anyway.
Two of the layout aricles were good also, one showing the use of Peco foam ballast to good effect.
Best regards,
Joe
I'm glad this thread exists - I realised I hadn't renewed :smackedface: Will be resolved this week-end.
As far as the current content is concerned - as I said last time this was raised, how much if H's responsibility & how much from the previous Editor ? I'd be interested to know. I doubt H has had much chance to affect this issue; although next issue will be a different matter (within the bounds of the template he will be working within).
Mike
Quote from: Bealman on February 15, 2014, 02:37:03 AM
Naughty Grappa. No biccies for him that day, then, I guess!! ;D
Biccies ? I would say "no eating the postman" that day.
Best regards,
Joe
(scared of dogs)
Did anyone notice that in the Dapol advert in NGS Journal 1/14 that the 14xx and Autocoach are scheduled for Feb 14 availability?
excellent, cant wait to recieve my copy in the mail next week hopefully
bart
Quote from: Arrachogaidh on February 15, 2014, 05:34:10 PM
I'm keeping an open mind on the new Editor
no change at all yet to the editorial or production team that I can see, and no mention of change in the magazine (mail train letters aside). I wonder if everything is as decided as we currently think?
Quote from: mr magnolia on February 16, 2014, 06:56:18 AM
Quote from: Arrachogaidh on February 15, 2014, 05:34:10 PM
I'm keeping an open mind on the new Editor
no change at all yet to the editorial or production team that I can see, and no mention of change in the magazine (mail train letters aside). I wonder if everything is as decided as we currently think?
It looks pretty official - there is an announcement on the NGS Website 29/1/14.
I suspect Journals are planned sometime in advance and it may be another edition or two before any changes become evident.
Roy
As a "lowest common denominator" myself, and proud of it, I join with others in keenly awaiting the next issues of NGS Journal with great enthusiasm. It is either going to be even better than now or I am going to enjoy it in a cynical way as I do another forum when a mod goes off on a rant.
Personally I believe it will improve as change often does improve things (with the possible exception of MUFC) and there is probably some kind of committee effect anyway in the production of the Journal.
So bring it on.
Quote from: ParkeNd on February 16, 2014, 09:55:45 AM
as change often does improve things (with the possible exception of MUFC)
Oh, I dunno ... most of the country seems to have enjoyed it :P
D'you know...I can't help but wonder if all this is a moot point.....
I increasingly wonder what is the point of any magazine. Nowadays most of my consumption of N Gauge information is through this very forum, rather than the NGJ or any of the mainstream magazines.
Also, I used to contribute to the Journal fairly regularly - now my ideas and suggestions are all published here; and I get the advantage of instant feedback, other contributions, questions etc. I could package these up and contribute them to the Journal.....but you have all had the chance to read them by then anyway....!
I would be interested from anyone, what the journal gives you that this forum doesn't? If there is a degree of consensus, maybe the form of the mag could be moulded to meet this need.......
Cheers
Jon :)
Quote from: MikeDunn on February 16, 2014, 10:00:44 AM
Quote from: ParkeNd on February 16, 2014, 09:55:45 AM
as change often does improve things (with the possible exception of MUFC)
Oh, I dunno ... most of the country seems to have enjoyed it :P
Especially if your world is light blue?
To be clear, Journal 1/14 was produced by Richard B and the previous team. Grahame is already working on his first issue and takes over from 2/14.
Cheers, Mike
(NGS Product Development Officer)
Cheers Mike,
I thought H might have had a little input, but it makes sense that you're always an issue ahead. I wasn't expecting it all to be his this early ::)
Mike
I may get flamed for putting this on here, but here goes anyway. I have let my membership lapse after several Years a member of the NGS. Indeed I felt that level of interest the Journal had for me] diminished over quite a long period of time. The internet has made a profound difference to the way many of us glean information. A specialist tropical fish club of which I have been a member for 37 Years is struggling to get new members. Why, because so much information is available on-line...why do people need to pay for membership? There was a time when the NGS kits were a life-line for something different when Farish was the only choice. Times have changed profoundly though. I have not put this on here to upset anyone, but merely to add my views/weight to what somebody has already said about so much being available on-line, and instantly.
Quote from: trkilliman on February 16, 2014, 11:07:55 AM
I may get flamed for putting this on here, but here goes anyway. I have let my membership lapse after several Years a member of the NGS. Indeed I felt that level of interest the Journal had for me] diminished over quite a long period of time. The internet has made a profound difference to the way many of us glean information. A specialist tropical fish club of which I have been a member for 37 Years is struggling to get new members. Why, because so much information is available on-line...why do people need to pay for membership? There was a time when the NGS kits were a life-line for something different when Farish was the only choice. Times have changed profoundly though. I have not put this on here to upset anyone, but merely to add my views/weight to what somebody has already said about so much being available on-line, and instantly.
Magazines are less anti-social than online. You can read a magazine without drawing criticism. Whilst this forum is great it is the communication that works and not just it's method of delivery. Teens stuck into tablets and smartphones is a less audience friendly phenomenen than magazines on the whole. Just a case in point - SWMBO has just shouted through "are you on that thing again!!" Never happens with books and magazines - she just thinks I am behaving myself for a change.
This is a very interesting thread so lets try and keep it open, but please, guys and girls, don't get personal, this is NOT the place.
:thankyousign:
Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but for a small sum (£1.50)
non members of the NGS can get an introductory pack and a sample copy
of the mag. I'm not a member and spotted this on the NGS website.
Might be worth a shot for anyone wondering about the benefits of membership.
I think this issue will be my last but not because of the quality of the journal. We have recently had two postal strikes and our currency has done a nosedive. The journal is posted by Air Mail which makes it expensive and with the unreliable postal service it doesn't always turn up.
I'm hoping that one day there will be the option of a digital or PDF version.
Veronica.
Quote from: ParkeNd on February 16, 2014, 11:15:51 AM
Magazines are less anti-social than online. You can read a magazine without drawing criticism. Whilst this forum is great it is the communication that works and not just it's method of delivery. Teens stuck into tablets and smartphones is a less audience friendly phenomenen than magazines on the whole.
Yes - this is a very good point! I guess that feedback and comments are a two edged sword. Just as it is rewarding when someone says "thanks - good idea" it can be upsetting if people say "that's a stupid idea" or words to that effect!! At least with the mag you can imagine that readers are hanging on your every word and nodding wisely in response to your pearls of wisdom!!
Cheers Jon :)
Maybe I am just old-fashioned (or maybe just old? :( ) but I quite like picking up a magazine, reading through a few bits, and putting it down again, so I can continue reading it a little later. When I want to read the Forum I have to fire the PC up (yes - old-fashioned again - I still have a desktop computer!) log in, and then spend the time specifically reading the Forum. As has been said, reading a mag is less anti-social! (Although SWMBO has just got a laptop so she can browse the interweb while watching TV... :confused1: )
I've had a couple of articles published in the Journal that have also been posted on this forum, and although there is some crossover of readership you have to remember that not all NGS members are on this forum, and likewise not all NGF members are members of the NGS! ;)
The way I see it it's two distinct audiences, albeit as said with some crossover (pun intended :D ) Not everyone has internet access, so there's plenty of modellers out there that can appreciate a good helpful article in a paper magazine. Both communication methods have their merits, so it makes sense to reach as wide an audience as possible of you think you have something of interest to share with other N Gaugers :thumbsup:
Paul
Quote from: Sprintex on February 16, 2014, 01:52:01 PM
The way I see it it's two distinct audiences, albeit as said with some crossover (pun intended :D ) Not everyone has internet access, so there's plenty of modellers out there that can appreciate a good helpful article in a paper magazine. Both communication methods have their merits, so it makes sense to reach as wide an audience as possible of you think you have something of interest to share with other N Gaugers :thumbsup:
I completely agree with Paul - print is a very one-sided communication whereas forums etc are two way and you can get new ideas and input as you go. I quite often think that there are a number of forum threads which could be converted into nice printed articles with a bit of editting and tidying up.
Cheers, Mike
Quote from: red_death on February 16, 2014, 02:11:19 PM
I completely agree with Paul - print is a very one-sided communication whereas forums etc are two way and you can get new ideas and input as you go. I quite often think that there are a number of forum threads which could be converted into nice printed articles with a bit of editting and tidying up.
Good idea! How about this, if you (anyone that is) like a thread, you could suggest in a reply that it would make a good NJS article. There are a few threads that I have either started or contributed to that I would be happy to make into an article if there was a following wind - just wouldn't want to do so if there was no demand or be accused of re-hashing old material!
Cheers Jon :)
Quote from: PostModN66 on February 16, 2014, 12:42:11 PM
Quote from: ParkeNd on February 16, 2014, 11:15:51 AM
Magazines are less anti-social than online. You can read a magazine without drawing criticism. Whilst this forum is great it is the communication that works and not just it's method of delivery. Teens stuck into tablets and smartphones is a less audience friendly phenomenen than magazines on the whole.
Yes - this is a very good point! I guess that feedback and comments are a two edged sword. Just as it is rewarding when someone says "thanks - good idea" it can be upsetting if people say "that's a stupid idea" or words to that effect!! At least with the mag you can imagine that readers are hanging on your every word and nodding wisely in response to your pearls of wisdom!!
Cheers Jon :)
Wow. Wish I could take a swipe at someone so elegantly.
Quote from: ParkeNd on February 16, 2014, 04:45:46 PM
Wow. Wish I could take a swipe at someone so elegantly.
Oh Lor......really wasn't intending to swipe anyone! One (me) needs to have broad shoulders when posting online, take the rough with the smooth...and even at it's harshest this forum is pretty polite and civilised compared with the horrible abuse you get elsewhere!
I'll take "elegant" though - first time that has been used about me!
Best to everyone! Cheers Jon :)
Quote from: Paul B on February 16, 2014, 12:49:57 PM
Maybe I am just old-fashioned (or maybe just old? :( ) but I quite like picking up a magazine, reading through a few bits, and putting it down again, so I can continue reading it a little later. When I want to read the Forum I have to fire the PC up (yes - old-fashioned again - I still have a desktop computer!) log in, and then spend the time specifically reading the Forum. As has been said, reading a mag is less anti-social! (Although SWMBO has just got a laptop so she can browse the interweb while watching TV... :confused1: )
I quite agree with you, my laptop had just died on me (flat battery !) as with a magazine, ither you are reading it or fall asleep whilest reading it ! Getting into the NGF does take time, while picking a magazine up is instant.
For what it is worth. I joined the NGS when I first took up modelling in N gauge. I had no experience at all and let my membership lapse after about 15 months as I had no idea what most of the articles were about. It all seemed, at that time, aimed at the experienced modeller. Some of the things I read were way ahead of my comprehension!
I rejoined some 6 months ago and I now look forward to the magazine arriving. I like printed material to browse through. I think the content is OK but I do think the "obsession" with the various awards/trophies & competitions is a bit tedious and "way beyond" the capabilities of most modellers.
I simply read the bits I'm interested in and miss out those that I'm not interested in. I do, however think that the editors make certain assumptions that we all know what is meant. Often I read an article and am none the wiser having read it ! It is very easy to assume "prior knowledge".
I will continue with my membership and hope that the NGS can prosper.
Quote from: port perran on February 16, 2014, 06:55:43 PM
For what it is worth. I joined the NGS when I first took up modelling in N gauge. I had no experience at all and let my membership lapse after about 15 months as I had no idea what most of the articles were about. It all seemed, at that time, aimed at the experienced modeller. Some of the things I read were way ahead of my comprehension!
I rejoined some 6 months ago and I now look forward to the magazine arriving. I like printed material to browse through. I think the content is OK but I do think the "obsession" with the various awards/trophies & competitions is a bit tedious and "way beyond" the capabilities of most modellers.
I simply read the bits I'm interested in and miss out those that I'm not interested in. I do, however think that the editors make certain assumptions that we all know what is meant. Often I read an article and am none the wiser having read it ! It is very easy to assume "prior knowledge".
I will continue with my membership and hope that the NGS can prosper.
I'm not that brillant, but try to do what I can do withern my caperbilertiy, the NGS magazine has help me with a lot off things, which one would not always find else where. Have sent then an article, so what the next space ! if it gets printed. Hopefuly it will encourage the less able moderler's to send something in, so that the exsperts can advise us with what improvements can be made. (sorry about my spelling !) Still going to be a member of the NGS and look into the NGF when I have the time to sit !
Jarvis.
Quote from: silly moo on February 16, 2014, 12:34:03 PM
I'm hoping that one day there will be the option of a digital or PDF version.
Veronica.
My experiences of the NGS powers that be is that technology is not their strong point. Witness the may years long web site fiasco before the late Paul Martin was able to do something about it, and the very slow adoption of even basic electronic payment for the membership and shop.
I fear also that the change of editor will also be a big step backwards for any PDF version given the response to queries about that digital copies of N'spirations was somewhere between rude and outright hostile.
It's a shame as it would save the society a small fortune offering both paper and electronic copies of the magazine.
The magazine itself IMHO serves a different rôle to the forum. It's a collection of hopefully selected, relevant material. The off topic discussions have been removed and hopefully the uninteresting articles didn't make the cut.
For the forum to offer the equivalent you would need someone curating and summarising the best threads into something structured and complete. If you have an hour a month free you can read the magazine. You can't do that with the forum.
And btw.. while I disagree entirely with Grahame on the subject of digital editions I do think he'll make a good job of editing the magazine, even if it's only available on luddite dead tree media.
Alan
Quote from: port perran on February 16, 2014, 06:55:43 PM
I think the content is OK but I do think the "obsession" with the various awards/trophies & competitions is a bit tedious and "way beyond" the capabilities of most modellers.
The increased coverage of the Annual Model Making Competition came about from members wanting more information on how the various models were done.
I disagree that the models entered are way beyond the capabilities of most modellers. It's true that some of the winning models are way beyond what the like of Farish and Dapol produce but there are many entries that are well within the capabilities of the average modeller. Many of the repaints are done with little more than an aerosol, a selection of transfers and a bit of courage - something well within the capabilities of ALL modellers.
Many of the letters printed in the Journal over recent issues mentioned the dumbing down of the Journal yet printing notes on the AMMC models (and related articles) is seen by some as being beyond most modellers.
A case of you can't please everyone all the time! ;)
Happy modelling.
Steven B.
Quote from: Steven B on February 18, 2014, 01:11:30 PM
The increased coverage of the Annual Model Making Competition came about from members wanting more information on how the various models were done.
I disagree that the models entered are way beyond the capabilities of most modellers. It's true that some of the winning models are way beyond what the like of Farish and Dapol produce but there are many entries that are well within the capabilities of the average modeller. Many of the repaints are done with little more than an aerosol, a selection of transfers and a bit of courage - something well within the capabilities of ALL modellers.
I agree Steven :thumbsup:
I am in no way an advanced modeller, or even an intermediate modeller - more of a "have a go and see what happens" modeller :D Yet I managed a Bronze Award for some repainted, weathered and decal'd VGA vans, and a Highly Commended for my private liveried Class 04 shunter with flashy orange light thingy. Both these 'attempts' were the first bit of painting and adding transfers I've done since I made Airfix kits (badly!) as a child 30+ years ago! ;)
True I wouldn't attempt a hand-painted NSE livery, way too difficult with all those coloured lines, but a simple repaint, some waterslide decals and some all-over "muck" on a cheap coach or wagon is worth a try or two.
Paul
The new editor has the task of getting the mix of articles right so that there are different articles that appeal to beginners, intermediate and skilled modellers.
Added to that he will be dependent to some extent on what he receives from the members, so I wish him all the best.
Do I find every article in the Journal every 2 months engrossing and to my needs/desires? No.
Do I enjoy reading the Journal from cover to cover and quite often finding out little bits that I hadn't spotted elsewhere in the world of content? Yes.
Is it worth the £16 a year I pay for membership? Hell yes!
I also buy Model Rail most months and although I appreciate it covers all the scales, that too has bits in it that I'd not found on the web, so magazines definitely still have their place and I always look forward to coming home from work and finding that the NGS Journal is waiting for me to peruse.
Earlier in this post I stated I would not renew my membership but last night I read the Journal from beginning to end and I was surprised by the quality of the content and then I realised I might be out of order stating that I was quitting my membership, if the Journals are as good as the last one then I shall pay the £16, but my interest in N gauge is going over to Japanese railways, why you may ask the reason is the quality and ease, I like things simple, I have built 2 to 3 platforms out of kit form and I do not know if it is me or my actual modelling but it seems I have wave like platforms.
So if H can give the Journals quality and plenty of mix in each of them then I am back in.
I did not join the NGS just for the magazine, but for the shop, the specials and being part of something with like minded people.
But I have had experience of being a railway society magazine editor and it's no easy task. Getting members to contribute articles and do it on time is a nightmare. As for getting balance in the choice of articles, quite often you are grateful for what you have been given and end up writing the rest yourself. I only had two editions per year to deal with, six 100 page editions would have sent me to the funny farm and I am a former magazine editor and publisher (nothing to do with trains). There is a huge degree of difference between getting members to contribute for free and getting professionals used to generating copy regularily and who are paid.
So lets give this new chap a chance and better still those who have something to say on this forum and who are NGS members consider contributing articles. Editors are there to knock stuff into shape so no need to be timid.
Digital editions are often discussed in clubs. They help keep subscription rates low and dealing with the huge increases in post that we have seen of late. So we we put it to the members of our 'Circle' whether they would prefer to keep the subscriptions as they are but only receive a digital version of the magazine or pay more and keep the paper version. The vote was overwhelmingly in favour of paying more.
And anyway I cannot bring myself to take my iPad into the 'John'...
Mark K
Quote from: Mark K on February 18, 2014, 02:54:40 PM
There is a huge degree of difference between getting members to contribute for free and getting professionals used to generating copy regularily and who are paid.
So lets give this new chap a chance and better still those who have something to say on this forum and who are NGS members consider contributing articles. Editors are there to knock stuff into shape so no need to be timid.
Well said Mark.
As I have said further up, I am happy to write an article on any topic associated with my contributions on this forum, If maybe a couple of forum members confirm they would be useful mag content. So far I have had no suggestions........perhaps a subtle hint that none of my contributions so far have actually been useful!! :confused1:
Cheers Jon :)
Quote from: Mark K on February 18, 2014, 02:54:40 PM
I did not join the NGS just for the magazine, but for the shop, the specials and being part of something with like minded people.
But I have had experience of being a railway society magazine editor and it's no easy task. Getting members to contribute articles and do it on time is a nightmare. As for getting balance in the choice of articles, quite often you are grateful for what you have been given and end up writing the rest yourself. I only had two editions per year to deal with, six 100 page editions would have sent me to the funny farm and I am a former magazine editor and publisher (nothing to do with trains). There is a huge degree of difference between getting members to contribute for free and getting professionals used to generating copy regularily and who are paid.
So lets give this new chap a chance and better still those who have something to say on this forum and who are NGS members consider contributing articles. Editors are there to knock stuff into shape so no need to be timid.
Digital editions are often discussed in clubs. They help keep subscription rates low and dealing with the huge increases in post that we have seen of late. So we we put it to the members of our 'Circle' whether they would prefer to keep the subscriptions as they are but only receive a digital version of the magazine or pay more and keep the paper version. The vote was overwhelmingly in favour of paying more.
And anyway I cannot bring myself to take my iPad into the 'John'...
Mark K
Hi Mark, to drop the iPad would be very costly and down the drain, where as one can order a back copy of the NGS mag !
Jarvis.
Quote from: PostModN66 on February 18, 2014, 03:22:36 PM
So far I have had no suggestions........perhaps a subtle hint that none of my contributions so far have actually been useful!! :confused1:
Cheers Jon :)
I wouldn't take any lack of response as implied indifference, Jon :no:
Perhaps a thread on the lines of "What would you like to see in the NGS Journal?" might provide some clues and therefore some basis for contributions :hmmm:
On another note, I think it's a shame that non NGS members miss out on the Journal supplement that comes with the issue, as there are some very good N gauge bargains to be had in the 'Sales & Wants' section of said supplement
Quote from: James C on February 18, 2014, 02:29:51 PM
Do I find every article in the Journal every 2 months engrossing and to my needs/desires? No.
Do I enjoy reading the Journal from cover to cover and quite often finding out little bits that I hadn't spotted elsewhere in the world of content? Yes.
Is it worth the £16 a year I pay for membership? Hell yes!
My feelings too!
Quote from: newportnobby on February 18, 2014, 03:46:43 PM
On another note, I think it's a shame that non NGS members miss out on the Journal supplement that comes with the issue, as there are some very good N gauge bargains to be had in the 'Sales & Wants' section of said supplement
I missed out this journal I didn't get one :'(
Just got 2 shop lists instead
dave :thumbsup:
Quote from: newportnobby on February 18, 2014, 03:46:43 PM
On another note, I think it's a shame that non NGS members miss out on the Journal supplement that comes with the issue, as there are some very good N gauge bargains to be had in the 'Sales & Wants' section of said supplement
Surely just another benefit of membership? There's nothing stopping those advertising in the "Sales and Wants" from using eBay or RMWeb/NGF classified areas.
Happy modelling.
Steven B.
Quote from: Steven B on February 18, 2014, 04:30:55 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on February 18, 2014, 03:46:43 PM
On another note, I think it's a shame that non NGS members miss out on the Journal supplement that comes with the issue, as there are some very good N gauge bargains to be had in the 'Sales & Wants' section of said supplement
Surely just another benefit of membership? There's nothing stopping those advertising in the "Sales and Wants" from using eBay or RMWeb/NGF classified areas.
Happy modelling.
Steven B.
That's the reason I said that, Steven.
There is too much talk of closing/not renewing/what is the benefit of membership and I think not all the benefits are being thought of, rather it is just a reaction to a change of Editor for the Journal. Personally I am prepared to see how things go and then make a judgment based on fact, not preconception. Then, if necessary, I will act accordingly.
Quote from: Only Me on February 18, 2014, 02:08:47 PM
May enter my Brick works monstrosities then !
[smg id=10306 type=preview align=center caption="London Brick Locos"]
They're very different, would make a good article I think :thumbsup:
Put something together and take some high-res photos (if that one isn't already) and send it in ;)
Paul
Quote from: Sprintex on February 18, 2014, 09:18:07 PM
Quote from: Only Me on February 18, 2014, 02:08:47 PM
May enter my Brick works monstrosities then !
[smg id=10306 type=preview align=center caption="London Brick Locos"]
They're very different, would make a good article I think :thumbsup:
Put something together and take some high-res photos (if that one isn't already) and send it in ;)
Paul
Seconded. I'm always interested in seeing (reading) what goes into producing customised locos and rolling stock. At least some of those articles will help me one day when I try similar surgery.
I've already sent in an article based on our 'split gears for idiots' thread here, and I might well inflict the Journal with another based on my first loco kit experiences too. Whether such beginner's stories will find a place in the 'new' Journal remains to be seen, but it will be a good test of H's all-roundedness in terms of welcoming articles at all levels.
^^^^ I wish it hadn't been red but I agree it would make a great well structured article. Go for it.
I also second NewportNobby's comment about NGS membership. It's not always necessary to support an organisation just for what you can get out of it yourself. Railway modelling and N gauge in particular need to endure into the future and the NGS is a worthy vehicle to assist with that. A bit like contributing to Guide Dogs - you don't have to need one yourself to contribute.
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Quote from: Mark K on February 18, 2014, 02:54:40 PM
There is a huge degree of difference between getting members to contribute for free and getting professionals used to generating copy regularily and who are paid.
So lets give this new chap a chance and better still those who have something to say on this forum and who are NGS members consider contributing articles. Editors are there to knock stuff into shape so no need to be timid.
Well said Mark.
As I have said further up, I am happy to write an article on any topic associated with my contributions on this forum, If maybe a couple of forum members confirm they would be useful mag content. So far I have had no suggestions........perhaps a subtle hint that none of my contributions so far have actually been useful!! :confused1:
Cheers Jon :)
Finish the fitting of your cement terminal to Deansmoor and take the photo and we'll have a new article to submit to the Journal - LOL! ;D
Quote from: EtchedPixels on February 16, 2014, 08:01:26 PM
I fear also that the change of editor will also be a big step backwards for any PDF version given the response to queries about that digital copies of N'spirations was somewhere between rude and outright hostile.
It's a shame as it would save the society a small fortune offering both paper and electronic copies of the magazine.
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And btw.. while I disagree entirely with Grahame on the subject of digital editions I do think he'll make a good job of editing the magazine, even if it's only available on luddite dead tree media.
Alan
Another vote for online. For some photos in the newsletter I would really love to have a zoom function available.
I suppose that some may have concerns of ease of non-member distribution but there are ways to minimise the possibility. People who flog paper as a protection may not have heard of scanners.
How the magazine is distributed is not the concern of the editor but of the membership (imho).
CFJ
Mine arrived today 😃going to grab a cuppa
Bart
Quote from: Pete33 on February 18, 2014, 10:03:57 PM
I've already sent in an article based on our 'split gears for idiots' thread here, and I might well inflict the Journal with another based on my first loco kit experiences too. Whether such beginner's stories will find a place in the 'new' Journal remains to be seen, but it will be a good test of H's all-roundedness in terms of welcoming articles at all levels.
This isn't really aimed at Pete, but more a general comment about articles on common subjects eg split gears - please don't be offended if any editor (not specific to Grahame) doesn't want to re-run previously covered subjects. My personal view is that there is absolutely a place for this sort of information, but that there may be more appropriate outlets for this sort of article eg the NGS Members Handbook (or the website eg: http://www.ngaugesociety.com/index.php?page=split-gears (http://www.ngaugesociety.com/index.php?page=split-gears)) where the information can be added to what has already been published.
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I fear also that the change of editor will also be a big step backwards for any PDF version given the response to queries about that digital copies of N'spirations
Another vote for online.
I suppose that some may have concerns of ease of non-member distribution but there are ways to minimise the possibility.
Grahame has produced pdf versions of both N'spirations eg: http://grahamehedges.moonfruit.com/project-2/4581301958 (http://grahamehedges.moonfruit.com/project-2/4581301958) and DEMU's Update after publication of the paper version, rather than as an alternative.
But the issue is not really about the editor, but about how you control access (if anyone has any bright ideas of simple systems which the NGS could adopt then please let me know) and finally the big issue is how much of the membership has access to electronic media (let alone would prefer an electronic copy vs a paper copy).
Cheers, Mike
(NGS Product Development Officer)
Quote from: Cooper on February 19, 2014, 12:49:03 AM
Finish the fitting of your cement terminal to Deansmoor and take the photo and we'll have a new article to submit to the Journal - LOL! ;D
I'll get on to it!!!!!!
Jon :)
Quote from: red_death on February 19, 2014, 11:23:38 AM
This isn't really aimed at Pete, but more a general comment about articles on common subjects eg split gears - please don't be offended if any editor (not specific to Grahame) doesn't want to re-run previously covered subjects. My personal view is that there is absolutely a place for this sort of information, but that there may be more appropriate outlets for this sort of article eg the NGS Members Handbook (or the website eg: http://www.ngaugesociety.com/index.php?page=split-gears (http://www.ngaugesociety.com/index.php?page=split-gears)) where the information can be added to what has already been published.
Yep, I realise that another split gears article may not be something that the Journal really requires. Perhaps it's something that really should go in the handbook or on the website instead. It's just that there was a split gears article in last year's Journal that was clearly written by someone who knew what he was doing, and it was written for readers who were required to have an idea what they were doing. As a beginner, someone who's never taken apart a loco to any extent before, it left me scratching my head. I only found out what to do after being coaxed and guided along by members of the forum, and my version was written from the point of view of a true beginner, someone with no foreknowledge of the subject.
I'm sure that the more advanced articles will begin to make more and more sense to me as time goes by, but that takes time. To encourage people like me who would like to have a go but who don't know where to start (and I know there are at least a few on this forum alone), the idiot's guides really need to cover every tiny detail.
Perhaps the Journal could be used to point out the existence or publication of detailed idiot's guides like this if they do appear on the website or in the handbook. Sometimes we need to be reminded of what's available and where. :)
Peter
My copy has arrived unscathed :claphappy: and after a quick glance through it, I think it looks at lot more interesting than the last issue.
I've decided to renew my membership but instead of having the journal sent here, I will get it posted to a friend in the UK, the costs will be less, the journal will arrive safely and I can look forward to a pile of journals to read when I visit.
:ngauge:
Veronica
I def wanna an article on the brickworks !!!
I wonder if anyone has heard of the ' real life' Nori brickworks which used to be based near Accrington....
it had its own railway with several small industrial locos....
they say the name 'Nori' came from 'iron'....
but someone got the mould wrong!!!
Could not be bothered reading all the pages in this topic, but have read two journals of 'mail train' (please no more), a lot of the problem of course is ours and other Forums, more or less instant knowledge etc. :whiteflag: off to the bunker now. john.
Quote from: Paul B on February 14, 2014, 09:08:03 PM
....and have a deposit on the next RTR item; the LNER Thompson Full brake coach! http://www.ngaugesociety.com/index.php?page=thompson-full-brake (http://www.ngaugesociety.com/index.php?page=thompson-full-brake)
Phew! Glad I read back on this thread, thanks for the timely reminder, I had almost forgotten to order mine!
Pre-order form duly completed for mine, will get it in the post tomorrow....
Roy
Quote from: red_death on February 19, 2014, 11:23:38 AM
Grahame has produced pdf versions of both N'spirations eg: http://grahamehedges.moonfruit.com/project-2/4581301958 (http://grahamehedges.moonfruit.com/project-2/4581301958) and DEMU's Update after publication of the paper version, rather than as an alternative.
Has anyone got one? The links don't work....
Cheers,
Alan
Same here, comes up with downloads blocked. :(
I think what you're looking at there are placements rather than true downloads. Graeme is building a new site, so a lot of things may not be available yet.