I've been scouring the forum trying to find a particular thread.
A little while back there was a thread on here about the SR Leader project. Someone built a N gauge version, it was quite memorable as it was festooned with a myriad of 'decorative' rivets which had been applied like decals and looked most effective.
I can not find this thread anywhere. I'd like to source some of the above mentioned rivets for a project of mine.
If anyone can point me to the relevant thread that'd be great, if anyone can point me to the supplier of the rivets then even better.
Ta muchly.
:helpneededsign:
https://www.railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=3778 (https://www.railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=3778)
Bought some but not used yet. Seem pretty good.
Leader thread and post re:rivets here (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=37840.msg567845#msg567845). Fascinating prototype.
Quote from: njee20 on October 06, 2019, 10:18:40 PM
Leader thread and post re:rivets here (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=37840.msg567845#msg567845). Fascinating prototype.
Thanks for that.
I searched the entire forum for LEADER, and it didn't find that thread at all.
:confused2:
I wanted the thread to see if there was any tips on applying them.
In built searches are terrible, I searched Google with the "site:ngaugeforum.co.uk" attribute (no quotation marks), far more effective! :)
Quote from: njee20 on October 06, 2019, 11:01:01 PM
In built searches are terrible, I searched Google with the "site:ngaugeforum.co.uk" attribute (no quotation marks), far more effective! :)
Off topic here, but seeing as it's my thread...
...How do you write that into the Google 'box'?
I'm glad you brought this up @emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604) I am looking to detail some bits and pieces and these rivets hopefully will be perfect.
I'm hoping they are waterslide and you just cut to length and apply. Do they have profile? I guess so as Steve makes a point of saying they can be painted any colour.
Any information by users would be fantastic
Another option for rivet transfers is Archer Transfers (https://www.archertransfers.com/). Haven't used them, just aware of them.
:beers:
Quote from: emjaybee on October 06, 2019, 11:03:29 PM
Quote from: njee20 on October 06, 2019, 11:01:01 PM
In built searches are terrible, I searched Google with the "site:ngaugeforum.co.uk" attribute (no quotation marks), far more effective! :)
Off topic here, but seeing as it's my thread...
...How do you write that into the Google 'box'?
If you literally just put leader rivets site:ngaugeforum.co.uk it's the top entry for me (although the wrong page). You can put the site:ngaugeforum.co.uk first if you want, doesn't matter. Works for any site with decent Google indexing (the vast majority).
Quote from: njee20 on October 06, 2019, 11:34:16 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on October 06, 2019, 11:03:29 PM
Quote from: njee20 on October 06, 2019, 11:01:01 PM
In built searches are terrible, I searched Google with the "site:ngaugeforum.co.uk" attribute (no quotation marks), far more effective! :)
Off topic here, but seeing as it's my thread...
...How do you write that into the Google 'box'?
If you literally just put leader rivets site:ngaugeforum.co.uk it's the top entry for me (although the wrong page). You can put the site:ngaugeforum.co.uk first if you want, doesn't matter. Works for any site with decent Google indexing (the vast majority).
Noice!
Thanks for that.
:thumbsup:
Quote from: exmouthcraig on October 06, 2019, 11:05:09 PM
I'm glad you brought this up @emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604) I am looking to detail some bits and pieces and these rivets hopefully will be perfect.
I'm hoping they are waterslide and you just cut to length and apply. Do they have profile? I guess so as Steve makes a point of saying they can be painted any colour.
Any information by users would be fantastic
Indeed they are waterslide, with profile, and can be cut to desired length. I've just updated the product description to make it explicitly clear. (Often when you're the creator of a product there's a good risk that you overlook specifying something completely obvious!)
I would be keen to expand on the range, and although there was a lot of enthusiasm when the topic first got mentioned elsewhere albeit in another scale, there was virtually radio silence when I asked folks what other diameters / spacings they would like. Unfortunately I'm not well up on steel fabrication so when it comes to the specifics I need to be very explicitly guided by what others know.
Straight from the horse's mouth, as it were.
Thanks.
https://www.railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=3778 (https://www.railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=3778)
not the best website to navigate.
Rivets, white: 1⅛ inch diam, 3 inch spacing between centres
Product code: 2mm-9101 Home > Transfers > 2mm British
Make: Railtec
Gauge: 2mm / N
Type: Waterslide
Cost: £6.90
Qty in stock: 1
Qty in basket:
Themes: Scenery
Eras: Big Four :: Early Emblem :: BR Late Crest :: BR Pre-TOPS :: BR Blue TOPS :: Sectorisation :: Privatisation
2mm scale 1⅛" diam rivets (~0.2mm) with 3" (~0.5mm) spacing between rivet centres, so ¾" (~0.3mm) gap between the rivets themselves. These are raised with the correct profile/relief, just like the real things.
1744mm total length.
Individual horizontal strips on clear carrier film.
Rivets are white in colour, allowing the sheet to be coloured/sprayed to suit any job.
These are waterslide transfers and the strips can be cut to the desired length.
It's the top result when you search for "rivets", how easy to navigate do you want!? The proprietor is the post before you if you want to feed back. I've never had a problem, and really rate Steve's products. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Railwaygun on October 07, 2019, 02:20:43 PM
https://www.railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=3778 (https://www.railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=3778)
not the best website to navigate.
I'm all ears if you'd care to elaborate on how the site may be better structured whilst keeping in line with conventional ergonomics (and then I'd need to find the time to code it and put any new product development briefly on hold). The catalog is that extensive now that offering to browse by choice of era, scale, livery, vehicle type and now "theme" seemed to be the route which offered the best spread for everybody, based on preferred route of navigation.
Of course, somebody could always simply enter a search term such as "rivets" into the Search box, which instantly pulls up related items.
Quote from: Railwaygun on October 07, 2019, 02:20:43 PM
https://www.railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=3778 (https://www.railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=3778)
not the best website to navigate.
Rivets, white: 1⅛ inch diam, 3 inch spacing between centres
Product code: 2mm-9101 Home > Transfers > 2mm British
Make: Railtec
Gauge: 2mm / N
Type: Waterslide
Cost: £6.90
Qty in stock: 1
Qty in basket:
Themes: Scenery
Eras: Big Four :: Early Emblem :: BR Late Crest :: BR Pre-TOPS :: BR Blue TOPS :: Sectorisation :: Privatisation
2mm scale 1⅛" diam rivets (~0.2mm) with 3" (~0.5mm) spacing between rivet centres, so ¾" (~0.3mm) gap between the rivets themselves. These are raised with the correct profile/relief, just like the real things.
1744mm total length.
Individual horizontal strips on clear carrier film.
Rivets are white in colour, allowing the sheet to be coloured/sprayed to suit any job.
These are waterslide transfers and the strips can be cut to the desired length.
Funny you should mention the navigation problems.
I was on it earlier, and, well there's no other way to say it, it's an absolute
PIG to navigate once you have items in your basket.
Sorry @Railtec Transfers (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3293) but it's awful on a PC or laptop, but...
...I had a look on my mobile, and it's like a different website!
It's perfectly good on my mobile, so I ordered it through that.
I've just noticed Railtec have answered.
So guys, have a look at your site on someone elses PC, and then on someone elses phone. It's impossible to decipher the postage on the PC website.
Anyway, ordered placed.
been buying from Steve for many years, and I've never had problems with the site.
I search for what I want, add to cart, check out and a couple of days later it arrives.
have ordered on home pc, laptop pc, and before retiring err work pc, never a problem.
Quote from: class37025 on October 07, 2019, 02:52:13 PM
been buying from Steve for many years, and I've never had problems with the site.
I search for what I want, add to cart, check out and a couple of days later it arrives.
have ordered on home pc, laptop pc, and before retiring err work pc, never a problem.
Curious!
On my laptop (Win10, FireFox) it looks like a stripped down, code only site. On the phone (Samsung S7) it looks great.
:hmmm:
@Railwaygun (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=941) what is your PC/Web browser?
That is odd, looks perfect on my computer. And reminded me that I need some DB Cargo decals for a 66, now need to think if I need anything else to split the postage!
Okay, just to really throw things...
...it looks okay again now.
:confused2:
On plastic or brass sheet you can emboss rivets with this tool
https://www.emodels.co.uk/trumpeter-rivet-maker-09910.html (https://www.emodels.co.uk/trumpeter-rivet-maker-09910.html)
Quote from: emjaybee on October 07, 2019, 03:45:46 PM
Okay, just to really throw things...
...it looks okay again now.
:confused2:
To hopefully put the sub-thread to bed:
- The site was developed specifically with Windows, Mac and Android in mind, in different browsers and on different devices. Besides leveraging the various OSs and devices I have here, there's also an online tool which snapshots page(s) of your choice on multiple permutations of OS, browser and device. Last time I checked (albeit several months ago) it all looked good, and no code has changed since that time. The only thing which has changed is slightly newer versions of browser, but afaik there's been no major code changes in the popular browsers which should break anything.
- @emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604) if the site looks ok in one session and not in another, then this would suggest something unique to your device, browsing session and/or connection device through which you access the internet. There has been no code change for quite some time now so the fact that one minute you see what you expect and the next you do not, suggests something at the client side. Without wishing to cause undue alarm, it may not be a bad idea to run a virus check on the device where you are seeing sporadic behaviour, as malicious code often tampers with the packets delivered from server to client and vice-versa.
The attached is what everyone should hopefully see at check-out.
@Railtec Transfers (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3293) , the screenshot you have attached is what I saw on my phone when I placed the order, and what I saw on my laptop when I went back later to try to get a screenshot of the original problem.
I have no answers.
My laptop is an unmodified Win10 with Firefox, and it constantly runs Norton antivirus.
All seems okay, my placed order has apparently been despatched already, so much kudos there.
Y'know that thing ya do when you think...
..."I know what'd be a good idea"...
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/82/5604-081019215458.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=82457)
{Gulp}
They're awfully small.
:-X
Can't fault service though, I ordered them yesterday.
Top marks!
Quote from: emjaybee on October 08, 2019, 09:56:23 PM
They're awfully small.
:-X
Can't fault service though, I ordered them yesterday.
Top marks!
That's N gauge for you :D
Like I say, other diameters / spacings can be made if people know what they want.
They look perfect for what I want.
@emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604) it will be a good idea when their fitted!!
I'll get my order placed!!
Quote from: exmouthcraig on October 08, 2019, 10:29:26 PM
They look perfect for what I want.
@emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604) it will be a good idea when their fitted!!
I'll get my order placed!!
As long is it doesn't send me round the twist in the process!
:laughabovepost:
If it does can I have any you haven't used :D
Quote from: exmouthcraig on October 08, 2019, 10:47:18 PM
:laughabovepost:
If it does can I have any you haven't used :D
They'll come with a health warning!
Don't sniff 'em
I worry about you at times.
:confused1:
Quote from: RailGooner on October 06, 2019, 11:27:27 PM
Another option for rivet transfers is Archer Transfers (https://www.archertransfers.com/). Haven't used them, just aware of them.
:beers:
I have used the Archers Transfers ones and they have a good selection, mostly American prototypes, but a rivet is a rivet in any language! Not only rivets but also louvres in various sizes. Used the louvres to do the vertical part of the grilles on D9 & D10. I would add a picture but the they disappear every time I have tried.
Pictures should be less than 5 mb in size
Quote from: BR Signalman on October 09, 2019, 06:50:24 PM
Quote from: RailGooner on October 06, 2019, 11:27:27 PM
Another option for rivet transfers is Archer Transfers (https://www.archertransfers.com/). Haven't used them, just aware of them.
:beers:
I have used the Archers Transfers ones and they have a good selection, mostly American prototypes, but a rivet is a rivet in any language! Not only rivets but also louvres in various sizes. Used the louvres to do the vertical part of the grilles on D9 & D10. I would add a picture but the they disappear every time I have tried.
Good to know.
Please keep trying with the pictures, it would be good to see an example of the louvres.
I think on the main forum pages there's a 'four step guide' on how to upload pictures. I keep seeing it on the right hand side in the top half, it looks like a rectangular box.
:thumbsup:
Quote from: BR Signalman on October 09, 2019, 06:50:24 PM
Quote from: RailGooner on October 06, 2019, 11:27:27 PM
Another option for rivet transfers is Archer Transfers (https://www.archertransfers.com/). Haven't used them, just aware of them.
:beers:
I have used the Archers Transfers ones and they have a good selection, mostly American prototypes, but a rivet is a rivet in any language! Not only rivets but also louvres in various sizes. Used the louvres to do the vertical part of the grilles on D9 & D10. I would add a picture but the they disappear every time I have tried.
Pictures should be less than 5 mb in size