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Title: Darker view
Post by: Byegad on June 29, 2017, 03:34:18 PM
Hi. While I like the forum I do find the background very bright on my computer screen. Would it be possible to offer a choice of the white and a greyed down background, please?

As it is I'm constantly turning down the screen brightness as I swap from other sites to this one, them having to turn it back up to read emails or visit other sites.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Darker view
Post by: Bob G on June 29, 2017, 06:28:09 PM
I like white space.

I don't like the latest fad of going back to black on photo hosting sites. It reminds me of the early days of computing, when you had green LED generated text flickering on a black VDU screen...
Title: Re: Darker view
Post by: njee20 on June 29, 2017, 06:57:12 PM
Yep, must say I've never once wanted a darker site.
Title: Re: Darker view
Post by: daffy on June 29, 2017, 07:14:54 PM
Easier than adjusting screen brightness, at least on the iPad I use to view the Forum, would be to slip on a pair of lightly tinted sunglasses, like the old clip-ons I have from days long ago.
Title: Re: Darker view
Post by: njee20 on June 29, 2017, 07:18:59 PM
Screen brightness can be adjusted in two finger swipes on an iPad, it would be harder to switch to a different forum skin.
Title: Re: Darker view
Post by: keithfre on June 29, 2017, 07:24:17 PM
I certainly don't want to have to try to read black on a grey background.
Title: Re: Darker view
Post by: Malc on June 29, 2017, 10:47:37 PM
Quote from: njee20 on June 29, 2017, 07:18:59 PM
Screen brightness can be adjusted in two finger swipes on an iPad, it would be harder to switch to a different forum skin.
Doesn't actually work while you are in the forum. Swiping up doesn't bring up the control panel, just scrolls the forum.
Title: Re: Darker view
Post by: daffy on June 30, 2017, 07:20:29 AM
Malc, that's what I thought too, but my wife pointed out that I wasnt starting my upward swipe low down enough. A swipe from just off the bottom of the screen and most times i tried it brings up the Control Panel.
I don't do it though as I'm happy with the current screen settings for all the things I look at.

Still reckon it's easier and more consistent to put on some shades. Those old clip-ons of mine are hinged, so flip-down, or flip-up, a single swipe. Not that I've ever tried it, mind.  ;)

Title: Re: Darker view
Post by: njee20 on June 30, 2017, 08:15:21 AM
Yep, start off the bottom of the screen. I do 99% of my browsing on an iOS device.
Title: Re: Darker view
Post by: port perran on June 30, 2017, 08:20:01 AM
 Didn't know that you could do that on an ipad. Certainly works ok. Thanks for the tip.
Title: Re: Darker view
Post by: The Q on June 30, 2017, 08:29:48 AM
I don't like an all white background as I find it blinding, however the most important aspect these days as the eyes begin to fail with age, is a good contrast between the back ground and the text.
I have seen shop sites where they use multiple colours to attract attention, I find that annoying and when the get say yellow on white impossible to read..
Title: Re: Darker view
Post by: Bealman on June 30, 2017, 08:43:15 AM
My eyesight ain't what it used to be, for sure, but that makes a bright display more desirable!  :thumbsup:

It's fine on my PC, tablet and phone.
Title: Re: Darker view
Post by: ntpntpntp on June 30, 2017, 12:29:56 PM
This site has it about right I think - a light grey shade for the background.  Wouldn't want to go any darker or there wouldn't be enough contrast for the text.

As I work with two computers and 4 screens all day in the office, I tend to run my monitors/screens at quite a low brightness.  I might vary it a bit according to what I'm looking at - for example I'll up the brightness a bit to view photos, especially when checking the state of potential purchases!
Title: Re: Darker view
Post by: njee20 on June 30, 2017, 02:09:50 PM
I've never seen a forum offer a choice of background and don't find this one inordinately bright.

Any reason for being rude to Only Me, are you offering to be the webmaster?
Title: Re: Darker view
Post by: joe cassidy on June 30, 2017, 07:45:18 PM
What's an "ipad" ?


Joe
(age 59)
Title: Re: Darker view
Post by: austinbob on June 30, 2017, 07:48:34 PM
It is what you put over your eye if you have an eye infection.
Everybody knows that....
:no:
Title: Re: Darker view
Post by: Byegad on July 06, 2017, 11:52:22 AM
I'm not sure why my second post was removed, but I'll try again.

I use CycleChat who offer a choice of background shading, so it can be done.

I'm using a laptop and as I've said previously I get a migraine if I use a bright screen too long. It's not the background to the text that's too bright for me, it's the white border that really gets to me.

Seeing as nobody is interested in my problems, I won't post again.
Title: Re: Darker view
Post by: Bealman on July 06, 2017, 12:11:10 PM
Byegad

We value our members. We are, as folk point out, the friendly forum.

Check out our membership numbers.

We listen to every complaint, but have to remain realistic.

We cannot alter a whole operating system on the whim of one member.

I hope you reconsider your decision and continue to contribute.

George
Title: Re: Darker view
Post by: Snowwolflair on July 06, 2017, 12:16:55 PM
Too bright screens may be due to viewing in a darkened room.  In a bright room your eyes close and let in less light making the screen seem darker.
Title: Re: Darker view
Post by: austinbob on July 06, 2017, 12:23:29 PM
Might be better to turn the contrast down rather than the brightness, if that's possible on your screen.
:beers:
Title: Re: Darker view
Post by: Tank on July 06, 2017, 12:59:57 PM
Sorry, we don't have any themes that are currently compatible with all of the 'add-ons' that are on the forum.

I am also a migraine sufferer, and I found that buying a filter for my screen is a huge help.  The one for my work PC is made by 3M and is code BF10XXL.  You'll need to get one the right size of course!
Title: Re: Darker view
Post by: ntpntpntp on July 06, 2017, 01:28:27 PM
@Byegad (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4798)   As mentioned previously, I use 4 monitors all day at work and various laptops at home.   Whilst not a migraine sufferer I do really hate bright screens, and I find I run my monitors at around 40% brightness.

As @Snowwolflair (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3761) mentions, make sure you're not trying to use the screen surrounded by low light eg. in a darkened room. It's important to maintain an even brightness across your entire field of view (I've read this in VDU healthe'n'safety guidelines somewhere).   
Title: Re: Darker view
Post by: daffy on July 06, 2017, 06:20:36 PM
I concur re the ambient light issue: I had my eyes tested this week and the Optometrist raised this specific issue as he was viewing his PC screen at the time in a darkened room! I mentioned iPad use and he said he hoped I wasn't doing as he was as it is not good for the eyes, particularly at night.

Incidentally, if anyone does use an iPad (and doesn't already know) there is an auto setting to reduce screen brightness in low ambient light, and this is obviously relating to the same issue of not viewing bright screens in low light conditions.  I suspect other devices may have the same capability.

Anyway, now I am fully tested and awaiting new glasses (3 pairs!) so the funds for rolling stock have just been reduced by a few locos.  :(

(Okay, so this last bit has nothing to do with the thread subject, but I'm having a Gone With The Wind moment. :P )
Title: Re: Darker view
Post by: joe cassidy on July 06, 2017, 08:27:38 PM
If I were a journalist working for Viz I would reply :

"Look on the "bright" side - you've now got an excuse to wear shades at home like Les Grey out of Mud"

Best regards,


Joe
Title: Re: Darker view
Post by: Mr Sprue on July 06, 2017, 08:34:22 PM
Quote from: Byegad on July 06, 2017, 11:52:22 AM
I'm not sure why my second post was removed, but I'll try again.

I use CycleChat who offer a choice of background shading, so it can be done.

I'm using a laptop and as I've said previously I get a migraine if I use a bright screen too long. It's not the background to the text that's too bright for me, it's the white border that really gets to me.

Seeing as nobody is interested in my problems, I won't post again.

Forgive me everyone if I seem to be reading things incorrectly here, but there does seem to be many unhelpful comments made to what would appear to be a reasonable question! :confused1:

So getting back on topic Byegad I take it you have tried the obvious by using the Fn keys on your laptop to either dim or brighten your monitor? If you have and that doesn't work for you download and try f.lux software which is free, it wont change the background colour on any websites you view on your browser but you will be able to soften the emitting light from your monitor (incandescent to daylight) by using the sliders.

As someone who's has got AMD in its early stages I have found this software to be really good on the eyes. On bright days I wear sunglasses a lot to protect my eyes, so staring at a bright monitor gives me headaches after wearing my polarised UV blockers!

I hope my post is of use to you!


f.lux Download  (http://filehippo.com/download_flux/)

Title: Re: Darker view
Post by: daffy on July 06, 2017, 08:53:15 PM
Quote from: Mr Sprue on July 06, 2017, 08:34:22 PM

Forgive me everyone if I seem to be reading things incorrectly here, but there does seem to be many unhelpful comments made to what would appear to be a reasonable question! :confused1:


:confused1:I can see that there have been a lot of helpful comments here, and @Only Me (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1328)  and @Tank (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2) have pointed out the limitations of this particular Forum if it is to retain the other features we have, so I am confused by your comment here.
However, be that as it may, I hope the OP can find a solution to his problem from the suggestions given by yourself, myself, and others, all of which have merit in reducing the brightness of the white background.
Title: Re: Darker view
Post by: Mr Sprue on July 06, 2017, 09:11:59 PM
Quote from: daffy on July 06, 2017, 08:53:15 PM
Quote from: Mr Sprue on July 06, 2017, 08:34:22 PM

Forgive me everyone if I seem to be reading things incorrectly here, but there does seem to be many unhelpful comments made to what would appear to be a reasonable question! :confused1:


:confused1:I can see that there have been a lot of helpful comments here, and @Only Me (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1328)  and @Tank (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2) have pointed out the limitations of this particular Forum if it is to retain the other features we have, so I am confused by your comment here.
However, be that as it may, I hope the OP can find a solution to his problem from the suggestions given by yourself, myself, and others, all of which have merit in reducing the brightness of the white background.

You know what? .....After what you have just posted I have read back and apart from the SMF limitations that "Only Me" and "Tank" have pointed out there are only about four posts that could be deemed to be proactive and helpful!

So having said that and not wishing to get caught up in some kind of slagging match I'm out of here.. :wave: