C-Rail Intermodal to produce FTA/FSA container wagons

njee20 · September 29, 2019, 05:19:09 PM

Yes my understanding is certainly that they're only FL, as said, FSA outer with FTA inners in permanent sets. They were introduced to replace the older FFA/FGA. I think triples are much rarer these days, they added extra inners to make the quad-sets (having been double or triple originally) and pairs of FSAs.

Looking forward to these!

red_death · September 30, 2019, 11:00:47 AM

IIRC they are owned by FL so I'm 99.9% sure that they aren't used by anyone else (or certainly not regularly).

Great news as they are one of the missing links for the last 20 years or so.

Cheers Mike

njee20 · September 30, 2019, 11:21:22 AM

Minor tangent, but all of this has led to me poring over videos of different container flows to see various compositions. I never even realised there was an FEA-C used by GBRf, which is totally different to the FEA-B (and other 'spine' variants). Too many wagons!

acko22 · October 04, 2019, 03:21:04 AM

Hi all,

Well I did some asking and @arran I can confirm that the FTA/FSA wagons are all owned and operated by FL, but as is the joys of the railways have been seen behind DB (EWS) locos but that has been when FL have had to hire in locos previously to cover when they had traction shortages but that some time ago!

Gareth

crewearpley40 · October 04, 2019, 06:59:51 AM

thanks gareth

found this article :

https://www.ltsv.com/w_profile_052.php

https://gingespotting.smugmug.com/Wagons/F-TOPSCode/FSA/

https://gingespotting.smugmug.com/Wagons/F-TOPSCode/FTA/

Busybee · November 10, 2019, 03:32:38 PM

Nice post lady delivered my first order yesterday of these wagons anyone got there's.

njee20 · November 10, 2019, 03:49:48 PM

I assume you meant the KTA/KQA pocket wagon, rather than the FSA/FTAs? The pocket wagons do look good, I'm sure these will too.

Graham · November 10, 2019, 08:39:07 PM

will have to keep an eye on the post now, hopefully will arrive soon.

njee20 · November 10, 2019, 10:52:24 PM

For the KTAs...? This is getting confusing.

Graham · November 10, 2019, 11:34:03 PM

that will teach me to read properly, I meant the KTA's.

Of course we cant even place an order for the FSA's yet.

cheers
Graham

woodbury22uk · November 11, 2019, 10:02:37 AM

The KTA/KQA has its own topic to save confusion.

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=36448.new#new

Vonzack · November 11, 2019, 10:15:58 AM

Ah, more attention to detail required, apologies for the cross posting, thought I was in the other thread with the references to KTAs

Skyline2uk · February 06, 2020, 08:16:32 PM

Hi all

Just to add another point on these (cos I am excited for them but only if....); I have noticed Arran has caveated the original livery (Black) will only happen if there is enough orders.

I am really after pre-privatisation stuff, so hope there are more people like me after the black sets.

Skyline2uk

Arran · February 07, 2020, 06:00:50 PM

Quote from: Skyline2uk on February 06, 2020, 08:16:32 PM
Hi all

Just to add another point on these (cos I am excited for them but only if....); I have noticed Arran has caveated the original livery (Black) will only happen if there is enough orders.

I am really after pre-privatisation stuff, so hope there are more people like me after the black sets.

Skyline2uk

HI All

I will have to talk it through with the factory what the min quantity's will be for liveries and numbers, the Black ones ran into the privatized era for a good while looking at pics i have .

Regards Arran