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Title: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: petejones on June 12, 2018, 10:38:58 PM
Hi,

Does anyone else get annoyed by the use of the term N Scale, rather than N Gauge? A lot of the big players make the mistake, such as Gaugemaster.

Cheers
Pete
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: railsquid on June 12, 2018, 11:17:46 PM
It certainly annoys the heck out of me when people refer to N gauge people, buildings etc.
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: RailGooner on June 12, 2018, 11:22:27 PM
 :hmmm: Déjà vu! :D

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=36432.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=36432.0)

Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: JasonBz on June 13, 2018, 12:23:59 AM
Gauge can only ever refer to the track. At least Scale gives sort of an idea of what we are talking about ;)
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: Tom U on June 13, 2018, 07:46:07 AM
Quote from: JasonBz on June 13, 2018, 12:23:59 AM
Gauge can only ever refer to the track. At least Scale gives sort of an idea of what we are talking about ;)

That statement aligns with the very (I think) good explanation in wikipedia under "N scale"
In my engineering experience, "guage" (in this context) defines a set measurement (e.g. 18 guage sheet steel or wire = 0.04 inch).  Scale is a fixed proportion/ratio of a full size.

But honestly it does not bother me when N scale or gauge is used - I know what the writer means :-)
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: Bealman on June 13, 2018, 08:08:41 AM
Americans use the term all the time. I don't mind it, as gauge to me has always meant width between the rails.

However, as Railgooner points out, there has already been discussion on this.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: njee20 on June 13, 2018, 09:36:20 AM
Virtually everything's been discussed before, it would be a dull place if we weren't ever going over old ground!

UK prototype: N gauge
Rest of the world: N scale

Certainly doesn't bother me.
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: Intercity on June 13, 2018, 10:07:03 AM
I learned really quick when doing searches online to do two searches one for scale items and one for gauge items.

This is much the same as when people get annoyed with Railway and Railroad, that has been much discussed on various forums too (Amtrak's Railroad can run on BNSF Railway tracks gets brought up regularly but that probably for a different post)
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: Newportnobby on June 13, 2018, 10:07:52 AM
Frankly my damn, I don't give a dear :no:
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: njee20 on June 13, 2018, 10:33:23 AM
At least we can all agree that "train station" is just wrong. Although trains stop there, not railways, and you wouldn't say "road station" for a place that buses stop...
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: Bealman on June 13, 2018, 10:44:07 AM
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/255-170518021633.jpeg)

Right in the same building as the railway station

Apologies. Just got back from Japan.  ;) :beers:

Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: PaulCheffus on June 13, 2018, 11:31:56 AM
Quote from: njee20 on June 13, 2018, 10:33:23 AM
At least we can all agree that "train station" is just wrong. Although trains stop there, not railways, and you wouldn't say "road station" for a place that buses stop...

Hi

Basically its the medium of transport that should be used for example airport, spaceport, railway station. Bus station is the odd one out as you can't say road station as is only for one type of vehicle.

I've given up trying to argue with people on this and the younger people all refer to it as "Train Station".

Cheers

Paul
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: Bealman on June 13, 2018, 11:46:10 AM
 :laughabovepost:

Thank you!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: The Q on June 13, 2018, 11:50:50 AM
I ask then when the camel train is coming in...

Then I have to explain a train is not an object, it is a line of Items joined together, trains do not run on the rails a railway(railroad) train runs on the rails..
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: BramptonBranch on June 13, 2018, 11:56:30 AM
Gauge or guage :claphappy: :claphappy:
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: Bealman on June 13, 2018, 12:27:37 PM
Quote from: The Q on June 13, 2018, 11:50:50 AM
I ask then when the camel train is coming in...

Then I have to explain a train is not an object, it is a line of Items joined together, trains do not run on the rails a railway(railroad) train runs on the rails..

As in a wedding train on a wedding dress?

I can assure you from experience it is an object!!  ;)
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: dannyboy on June 13, 2018, 12:34:59 PM
I suppose we all had to train for something at some stage.
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: LongHairedDavid on June 13, 2018, 02:05:21 PM
I have spent the last XX years working in HO and N Scale building US outline railroads. Starting again in January, I am now having to learn that I am building a model railway in N gauge. I slip up somethines
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: acko22 on June 13, 2018, 02:10:35 PM
Quote from: PaulCheffus on June 13, 2018, 11:31:56 AM
Quote from: njee20 on June 13, 2018, 10:33:23 AM
At least we can all agree that "train station" is just wrong. Although trains stop there, not railways, and you wouldn't say "road station" for a place that buses stop...

Basically its the medium of transport that should be used for example airport, spaceport, railway station. Bus station is the odd one out as you can't say road station as is only for one type of vehicle.


So what do you call it when nothing stops there as Northern have cancelled them all?  ???
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: themadhippy on June 13, 2018, 02:31:00 PM
Buses run on roads they stop at bus stations,not road stations.
Trains run on rails so its a train station.
Trams run on rails but ive never heard anyone referring to there stops as railway stations
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: njee20 on June 13, 2018, 02:39:03 PM
But it isn't a train station. Anyone using that expression should be publicly humiliated.
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: PaulCheffus on June 13, 2018, 02:50:33 PM
Quote from: themadhippy on June 13, 2018, 02:31:00 PM
Buses run on roads they stop at bus stations,not road stations.
Trains run on rails so its a train station.
Trams run on rails but ive never heard anyone referring to there stops as railway stations

Hi

I don't normally quote Wikipedia but

In British English, traditional usage favours railway station or simply station, even though train station, which is often perceived as an Americanism, is now about as common as railway station in writing; railroad station is not used, railroad being obsolete there. In British usage, the word station is commonly understood to mean a railway station unless otherwise qualified. In American English, the most common term in contemporary usage is train station; railroad station and railway station are less common, though they have been more common in the past.

Cheers

Paul
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: daffy on June 13, 2018, 03:15:13 PM
N-Gauge or N-scale  - I care not. To me it's all just N-joyable, N-ter-training, and N-dlessly addictive.

As for train stations, railway stations, or what-you-will, they will perhaps one day all be termed as 'interchanges' or 'transport hubs'. The nearest place to me with a railway line is Skegness, and the signage outside the place where the railway trains and buses stop states 'Skegness Interchange' not 'Station'.

But the rail line meets the buffers here, so maybe it should be called a 'Terminus'.

And that's the end of that.
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: keithbythe sea on June 13, 2018, 03:37:19 PM
Quote from: acko22 on June 13, 2018, 02:10:35 PM
Quote from: PaulCheffus on June 13, 2018, 11:31:56 AM
Quote from: njee20 on June 13, 2018, 10:33:23 AM
At least we can all agree that "train station" is just wrong. Although trains stop there, not railways, and you wouldn't say "road station" for a place that buses stop...

Basically its the medium of transport that should be used for example airport, spaceport, railway station. Bus station is the odd one out as you can't say road station as is only for one type of vehicle.


So what do you call it when nothing stops there as Northern have cancelled them all?  ???


~$#*'ing annoying and frustrating!  :veryangry:
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: Newportnobby on June 13, 2018, 04:52:35 PM
Quote from: acko22 on June 13, 2018, 02:10:35 PM
Quote from: PaulCheffus on June 13, 2018, 11:31:56 AM
Quote from: njee20 on June 13, 2018, 10:33:23 AM
At least we can all agree that "train station" is just wrong. Although trains stop there, not railways, and you wouldn't say "road station" for a place that buses stop...

Basically its the medium of transport that should be used for example airport, spaceport, railway station. Bus station is the odd one out as you can't say road station as is only for one type of vehicle.


So what do you call it when nothing stops there as Northern have cancelled them all?  ???

Preston :doh:
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: Richard G Dallimore on June 13, 2018, 05:51:57 PM
Railway station simple because the railway is always there, trains are not.

N Gauge implies British outline to 1:148 scale
N Scale implies European or American (rest of world, excluding Japan) to 1:160 scale
Japan is to 1:150 scale.

Bachman Farish calling theirs N Scale could be taken to mean to 1:160 scale ie to small, I think it does matter. It muddies the water, using N Scale products is fine if you are making an informed choice and know that you are. This why it is important that items are clearly labeled what scale they are and why I get annoyed by the use of N Scale for 1:148 scale products.
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: themadhippy on June 13, 2018, 05:57:22 PM
QuoteBut it isn't a train station. Anyone using that expression should be publicly humiliated.
why? station is  from stationary ,or not moving.The rails dont move,unless its rather hot or cold,its the trains that become stationary.
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: The Q on June 13, 2018, 06:20:23 PM
Quote from: Bealman on June 13, 2018, 12:27:37 PM
Quote from: The Q on June 13, 2018, 11:50:50 AM
I ask then when the camel train is coming in...

Then I have to explain a train is not an object, it is a line of Items joined together, trains do not run on the rails a railway(railroad) train runs on the rails..

As in a wedding train on a wedding dress?

I can assure you from experience it is an object!!  ;)
It's another misuse of the word train, it's a piece of cloth, attached to a dress making a train it itself is just a piece of cloth.
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: The Q on June 13, 2018, 06:24:31 PM
Quote from: themadhippy on June 13, 2018, 05:57:22 PM
QuoteBut it isn't a train station. Anyone using that expression should be publicly humiliated.
why? station is  from stationary ,or not moving.The rails dont move,unless its rather hot or cold,its the trains that become stationary.
It's not a train that arrives at the station, a train is a thing of connected items, a railway train arrives at a railway station, not a camel train not a wagon train not a wedding dress train it's a railway train.
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: themadhippy on June 13, 2018, 06:42:11 PM
Quotea railway train arrives at a railway station, not a camel train
unless your in egypt
Quotenot a wedding dress train
you ever been to gretna green station ?
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: Yet_Another on June 13, 2018, 07:06:22 PM
Quote from: themadhippy on June 13, 2018, 05:57:22 PM
QuoteBut it isn't a train station. Anyone using that expression should be publicly humiliated.
why? station is  from stationary ,or not moving.The rails dont move,unless its rather hot or cold,its the trains that become stationary.
Well, no. Stationary is from station: a position or place. As in 'the place where the railway is (accessible)'

They were called railway stations before the bus had even been invented.
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: dannyboy on June 13, 2018, 07:38:02 PM
Well, I am following everybodys train of thought and whist sitting stationary, I can reply, in this day and age, without using any stationery.

However, I appreciate that everyone has their own point of view, but has this topic run its course now?  ???. Personally, I don't care whether it is 'scale' or 'gauge' - I know what I am looking for when buying.  :)
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: weave on June 13, 2018, 08:37:04 PM
Everyone STOP!

France - Echelle N

Spain - Escala N

Britain - N Gauge trains and track, N scale buildings, scenery etc.

It doesn't matter because my wife has got hooked on watching Love Island and it's doing my head in  :headbutt: Repeating now and then again at 9  :doh:.

Sorry for the hijack, I just needed to share.

Thank you weave. Help me!

My other (liquid) friends are doing their best  :beers:

Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: Zogbert Splod on June 13, 2018, 08:52:01 PM
What a silly thread!  I will consign it to the trash, or, do I mean the rubbish?  Since I lived in the US for twenty years, I do tend to use the terms interchangeably (and catch crap for doing so).
I do the same with 'scale' and 'gauge' as referenced in this thread.  Actually, I don't care much in either case.
I think those that I talk with know what I mean due to the context in which the word in question is used.
But wait, I sort of like silly threads, so, more power to it!
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: Mito on June 13, 2018, 09:38:32 PM
Quote from: Zogbert Splod on June 13, 2018, 08:52:01 PM
What a silly thread!  I will consign it to the trash, or, do I mean the rubbish?  Since I lived in the US for twenty years, I do tend to use the terms interchangeably (and catch crap for doing so).
I do the same with 'scale' and 'gauge' as referenced in this thread.  Actually, I don't care much in either case.
I think those that I talk with know what I mean due to the context in which the word in question is used.
But wait, I sort of like silly threads, so, more power to it!

Talking with someone means you are both or all talking at the same time, as the Spanish tend to do. To have a conversation you must talk to someone.
A slight nudge off the topic but it might keep going for another few pages more :D
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: Newportnobby on June 13, 2018, 09:40:44 PM
Quote from: weave on June 13, 2018, 08:37:04 PM
It doesn't matter because my wife has got hooked on watching Love Island and it's doing my head in  :headbutt: Repeating now and then again at 9  :doh:.


Oh dear. There's just no hope left. It's not you that needs help, Weave, but I'm sure your friends Jack Daniels and Captain Morgan may be of assistance. Good luck!
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: woodbury22uk on June 13, 2018, 10:10:33 PM
Quote from: Yet_Another on June 13, 2018, 07:06:22 PM

They were called railway stations before the bus had even been invented.


100 or so years ago, some of the places where buses congregated were called road car stations, particularly in Kent and Lincolnshire where the bus company included road car in its name.
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: RailGooner on June 13, 2018, 10:49:28 PM
Quote from: acko22 on June 13, 2018, 02:10:35 PM
Quote from: PaulCheffus on June 13, 2018, 11:31:56 AM
Quote from: njee20 on June 13, 2018, 10:33:23 AM
At least we can all agree that "train station" is just wrong. Although trains stop there, not railways, and you wouldn't say "road station" for a place that buses stop...

Basically its the medium of transport that should be used for example airport, spaceport, railway station. Bus station is the odd one out as you can't say road station as is only for one type of vehicle.


So what do you call it when nothing stops there as Northern have cancelled them all?  ???

In all the time I worked at Cable & Wireless Earth Station Tackley, we never had a single Earth stop. :veryangry:
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: EtchedPixels on June 13, 2018, 11:31:01 PM
The society is called 'The N Gauge Society'. I couldn't therefore resist asking if they'd take articles about OO9 narrow gauge 8)
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: Zogbert Splod on June 13, 2018, 11:53:29 PM
Quote from: Mito on June 13, 2018, 09:38:32 PM
Quote from: Zogbert Splod on June 13, 2018, 08:52:01 PM
What a silly thread!  I will consign it to the trash, or, do I mean the rubbish?  Since I lived in the US for twenty years, I do tend to use the terms interchangeably (and catch crap for doing so).
I do the same with 'scale' and 'gauge' as referenced in this thread.  Actually, I don't care much in either case.
I think those that I talk with know what I mean due to the context in which the word in question is used.
But wait, I sort of like silly threads, so, more power to it!

Talking with someone means you are both or all talking at the same time, as the Spanish tend to do. To have a conversation you must talk to someone.
A slight nudge off the topic but it might keep going for another few pages more :D

A most excellent illustration of the underlying theme of the thread.  I wonder how many people REALLY give a poop if the word is scale or gauge, trash or rubbish, with or to...  Perhaps I should have said 'converse' or some derivative there of instead of 'talk'.  I wonder this on the basis that converse implies a bi-lateral exchange of ideas/observances/concepts.  In this case the poster has chosen to take me to task in an effort to keep the thread going.  I have no problem with that.

ps:  The Spanish system sounds fine to me as it gets a chat done and out of the way in half the time!
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: acko22 on June 14, 2018, 12:22:26 AM
To be honest I think the use of either is workable, the main thing is the single letter(s) at the start N

How ever you look at it may it left or right hand drive we still accept a car is a car and for me its the same concept Ok slightly different I know but still basically the same thing they are both N.

If anything I use the wording of Gauge or Scale as a guide as to how close something may be to been what I want, say a building if its something a model will be next to or driving into say a depot I want it to be as close a possible so I will end up looking more at N "gauge" where as if its N "scale" I could use it for the back scene where it doesn't have to size up as perfectly.
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: RailGooner on June 14, 2018, 12:27:36 AM
Damn! 'Thank You' button's gone AWOL again. ???


:thankyousign: @Zogbert Splod (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4202)
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: Bealman on June 14, 2018, 01:32:40 AM
[mod]Should be back now. :thumbsup:[/mod]
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: Bingley Hall on June 14, 2018, 07:07:39 AM
Wake me up when it's all over please.
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: broadsword on June 14, 2018, 08:41:55 AM
They think its all over, it is now !  By the way , in one of my favourite movies (The heat of the night),
the trains arrive at the dee-poe.
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: njee20 on June 14, 2018, 08:45:09 AM
Well no a depot is totally different!

You get Home Depots too, after you've parked your automobile in the parking lot, and used the sidewalk to get to the store.

They can have N Scale though, I still find that a useful differentiation between prototypes.
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: Newportnobby on June 14, 2018, 12:01:59 PM
Said it before and I'll say it again, Captain Jean-Luc Picard of the USS Enterprise always said "NGauge".
I never once heard him say "NScale" :no:
Therefore make it so :telloff:
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: talisman56 on June 14, 2018, 01:27:00 PM
I tend to use 'N Gauge' when referring to ordinary RTR/U stuff, and '2mm' when referring to any sort of 'finescale' versions of N.

It's been a 'Railway Station' ever since I were a nipper and I'm not changing now.

I couldn't give a toss what ever anyone else calls them as I can usually get what they mean anyway...
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: Jon898 on June 14, 2018, 01:35:15 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on June 14, 2018, 12:01:59 PM
Said it before and I'll say it again, Captain Jean-Luc Picard of the USS Enterprise always said "NGauge".
I never once heard him say "NScale" :no:
Therefore make it so :telloff:

Yes, but Jean-Luc was just making his crew help out with his other hobby of renovating old Singer machines..."Make it sew..."

In any case isn't it gage not gauge?  (the former is so prevalent here, I have to remember the french pronunciation to spell it correctly!)

OK, hat, coat and the door's that way.

Jon
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: broadsword on June 14, 2018, 03:27:17 PM
How come Jean luc doesn't speak with a French accent whereas Mr Scott speaks with a Scottish accent ?
By the way Scotty is the only person to have worn s kilt in outer space.

I'll get my spacesuit............
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: Newportnobby on June 14, 2018, 04:11:28 PM
Quote from: Jon898 on June 14, 2018, 01:35:15 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on June 14, 2018, 12:01:59 PM
Said it before and I'll say it again, Captain Jean-Luc Picard of the USS Enterprise always said "NGauge".
I never once heard him say "NScale" :no:
Therefore make it so :telloff:

Yes, but Jean-Luc was just making his crew help out with his other hobby of renovating old Singer machines..."Make it sew..."


:laughabovepost:

Quote from: Jon898 on June 14, 2018, 01:35:15 PM
In any case isn't it gage not gauge?

That would mean steam and diesel locos are definitely not greengages :confused1:
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: Tom U on June 14, 2018, 05:02:46 PM
Just curious - when where and how and by whom was the designation "N" decided upon?
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: PaulCheffus on June 14, 2018, 05:04:03 PM
Quote from: Tom U on June 14, 2018, 05:02:46 PM
Just curious - when where and how and by whom was the designation "N" decided upon?

Hi

I believe it comes from the track gauge as in Nine millimeters.

Cheers

Paul
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: ntpntpntp on June 14, 2018, 07:04:29 PM
Quote from: Tom U on June 14, 2018, 05:02:46 PM
Just curious - when where and how and by whom was the designation "N" decided upon?

Arnold's original system with 9mm track gauge. N = Neun.
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: talisman56 on June 14, 2018, 08:09:47 PM
Quote from: ntpntpntp on June 14, 2018, 07:04:29 PM
Quote from: Tom U on June 14, 2018, 05:02:46 PM
Just curious - when where and how and by whom was the designation "N" decided upon?

Arnold's original system with 9mm track gauge. N = Neun.

This. The original Treble-O(-Lectric) system was based on a track gauge of roughly 8.5mm, IFAIR (I've looked at many of the on-line pages dealing with 'OOO' and heve yet to find a definitive answer).

I recall trying to run my first N Gauge rolling stock purchases on my existing OOO track and it kept derailing, hence my investigation of the actual gauge of the OOO system.

EDIT: Found the answer tucked away in an obscure section...
The original plastic push-along track was approx 8mm gauge, the electric track was supposedly 9mm (but see paragraph above...).
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: railsquid on June 15, 2018, 12:02:24 AM
My Lone Star OOO Class 24 will run on modern N gauge track but can't cope with points.
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: PLD on June 15, 2018, 08:00:08 AM
Strictly speaking GAUGE is the distance between the rails.

N GAUGE is 9mm gauge Track.

In the modelling world the N GAUGE track is commonly used for:

1:148 Scale models of UK Standard Gauge prototypes "BRITISH N SCALE"
1:150 Scale models of Japanese Standard Gauge prototypes "JAPANESE N SCALE"
1:160 Scale models of Continental European & North American Standard Gauge prototypes "GERMAN N SCALE"
1:100 Scale models of UK & Irish 3' Gauge prototypes "TTn3 SCALE"
1:76 Scale models of UK 2' - 2'6" Gauge prototypes "009 SCALE"
1:87 Scale models of German & French 75cm & 1m Gauge prototypes "HO9 SCALE"
1:43 Scale models of UK 15" Gauge prototypes "BRITISH 09 SCALE"
1:48 Scale models of AMERICAN 18" Gauge prototypes "AMERICAN 0n18 SCALE"

One N GAUGE, used for a multitude of SCALES, some of which are (Different) N SCALES some of which aren't N SCALES.

As Bachman produce models in a number of those, for clarity they probably should call the Graham Farish range BRITISH N SCALE  :)
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: ntpntpntp on June 15, 2018, 08:39:28 AM
Quote from: PLD on June 15, 2018, 08:00:08 AM
1:87 Scale models of German & French 75cm & 1m Gauge prototypes "HO9 SCALE"
models of 750mm gauge stock more commonly labelled HOe,  with HOm  (12mm gauge) representing the metre gauge stuff.

I'm very much in the "N gauge" camp, but so many people use "N scale" you just have to accept it.
Same in the " G scale" world, where actually various scales from 1:29 to 1:19 run on 45mm G gauge track (which itself is derived from  Gauge 1)
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: Newportnobby on June 15, 2018, 10:26:17 AM
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: Bealman on June 15, 2018, 10:47:01 AM
Ha ha!

That's about it.

Don't want to be of over-moderating, but seriously?
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: RailGooner on June 15, 2018, 11:34:52 AM
 :unimpressed: Still 8 posts needed to beat last year!
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: njee20 on June 15, 2018, 11:45:16 AM
Complete tangent, but great avatar RG - great to see Gee get a decent win!

Anyway, as you were, back on-off topic.  :hmmm:
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: The Q on June 15, 2018, 11:50:18 AM
Who He?

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Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: Newportnobby on June 15, 2018, 11:58:55 AM
Quote from: The Q on June 15, 2018, 11:50:18 AM
Who He?


Geraint Thomas of Team Sky won this years Criterium du Dauphiné cycling road race (more interesting than the thread topic) and roll on the Tour de France 7th July :claphappy:
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: njee20 on June 15, 2018, 12:01:19 PM
Hear hear!
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: railsquid on June 15, 2018, 01:11:50 PM
So, Dapol vs Farish - who produces the better N scale trains?

Ducks and runs away fast
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: talisman56 on June 15, 2018, 01:25:11 PM
Quote from: railsquid on June 15, 2018, 01:11:50 PM
So, Dapol vs Farish - who produces the better N scale trains?

Ducks and runs away fast

Do you really want to go there?  :censored:
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: PLD on June 15, 2018, 01:27:23 PM
Quote from: railsquid on June 15, 2018, 01:11:50 PM
So, Dapol vs Farish - who produces the better N scale trains?

Ducks and runs away fast
asking controversial questions like that can lead to RevolutioN...

>:D  ;)
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: RailGooner on June 15, 2018, 01:38:14 PM
 :toot: Post #68 and we've produced one page more on this topic than we did last year! So it still vexes (some of) us. :D

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=36432.msg431949#msg431949 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=36432.msg431949#msg431949)
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: broadsword on June 15, 2018, 02:43:59 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on June 15, 2018, 11:58:55 AM
Quote from: The Q on June 15, 2018, 11:50:18 AM
Who He?


Geraint Thomas of Team Sky won this years Criterium du Dauphiné cycling road race (more interesting than the thread topic) and roll on the Tour de France 7th July :claphappy:

Hit the road Jacques !
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: littlegs on June 15, 2018, 03:19:45 PM
Anybody noticed the titles of the sub menus in the N GAUGE Discussion menu on the main Forum contents page?
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: Newportnobby on June 15, 2018, 03:26:16 PM
Fair point. I notice there's no sub board for Finegauge, either :-X
Title: Re: It's N Gauge, not N scale!
Post by: Railwaygun on June 15, 2018, 03:52:29 PM
That's all folks!!