Buying and Selling

[Mustermark]

perhaps then list as BIN with a price of '£x ono' ?

[Newportnobby]

The rules of the auction state you cannot end an auction early.
However, Mustermarks suggestion of BIN ono is a good one. I would just amend it slightly by making it
BIN ono by PM
This would mean the negotiations are conducted in private - as they should be

[Tank]

If this is not possible then why not just call the Classified section Ebay 

Copyright!

If you have a price in mind that you're willing to take for something, then just put the item in an auction with a Reserve on it.  If you get a couple of bidders on the auction, then that's more money your way, which is better for you!

[EtchedPixels]

Copyright!

Nope - trademark...

annoying pedants are us.

It's also not an auction because it has a fixed end time (which is fortunate because otherwise Tank would require a licence!)

[Mirrlees]

RMWeb used to do buy and sell and then went ebay style.  This did put people off.

Doing it as ebay does is too commercialised in my view.  We are hobbyists not traders.

So please can the old system stay up and get ruined by the classified section.

[Calnefoxile]

Sorry guys but I'm with Tim on this one.

I must admit I sort of threw my hands up in disbelief when Tank launched the Classifieds 

Mainly because this is the route RMWeb went down a while ago, (and I'm not sure on this) usage went down, well it looked like it did anyway. If you look on their Marketplace (As AndyY calls it) there are only 4 items up for sale at the moment!!!

The DEMU forum still operates with the Buying and Selling section, without the use of an Auction based system.

I just like the idea of rooting through my stock box, finding something and thinking "I'll just stick this in the sales bit of the Forum for 20 quid and see if anyone wants it"...."Oh look someones offered me £15 for it, you know what that'll do" and not the "Right I'll stick this in the classifieds, whack a £20 Reserve on it and sit back and wait, or place a Buy-It-Now on it and laugh all the way to the bank" To me I prefer the old way, it seems a more...pleasant way for Modellers to sell to other modellers. Unless you allow a person to  end their BIN early because someone's made them an offer by PM. I must admit, I do like looking back through the Sales Topic now and then, and spotting something that I maybe didn't want at the time, but could do with now. This is not possible with the Classifieds, once the Auction's finished it's gone (Just like the Manufacturers and their Batch production 'Buy it now or you won't get it again', which a lot of us moan about 

I'm sorry Chris and others, but I just don't like it. It's the only bit of the Forum I don't like the rest is fabulous.

Regards

Neal.

[EtchedPixels]

There's no point having an auction feature (as opposed to buying) because the return from an auction is down to the number of potential buyers. It's why nobody has been able to compete with ebay

I too preferred the old arrangement because (despite moderators protests ) we have some very good and interesting conversations about them.

[Tank]

Only 4 items?!  Wow, it's already better than RMWeb's!!!

I'm looking at this in the long term, and using threads in the main forum just won't work.  It's only been 18 months and it's a mess.  That board is littered with threads that aren't locked, and the moderators/volunteers on here don't have the time to go through them all, and to constantly ask members if the threads can be closed. 

And I should think what has killed off RMWeb's Marketplace is probably the prices that they charge!

[Dock Shunter]

Just because something doesn't work on RM Web doesn't mean it won't be successful here.
I think we have a closer knit community here than on RM Web so the trading amongst us will still be done with the same politeness and respect that it has always been done.....at least give it a try fella's before making judgement

[brbluewill]

sorry but i,m in the hate it camp.i don't even look in the classified section anymore.personally if i was selling i would list it with a price i want and negotiate accordingly with fellow members.

[Mirrlees]

Just because something doesn't work on RM Web doesn't mean it won't be successful here...........................

I agree but it does not give it a good start. 

I did not seem to notice that the old board was a mess ?  What was I missing ?

[Pengi]

Just because something doesn't work on RM Web doesn't mean it won't be successful here.
I think we have a closer knit community here than on RM Web so the trading amongst us will still be done with the same politeness and respect that it has always been done.....at least give it a try fella's before making judgement

[trainsdownunder]

 

I guess we have the usual scenario here where some prefer one method over another. I have used both systems and find pros & cons with both.

However if the old system is resulting in dead/unlocked etc links littering the forum then a clean easy to administer system must be better and less time consuming. As Tank rightly points out this is a forum run by volunteers and therefore this forum should not be a major time consumer in their lives except by choice.

As 'normal' users we probably don't see the problems ie dead threads, in the same light - we generally log in, view the threads we want, have a read etc and log off. Easy life.

The great thing with this forum is that people tend to be pro-active and this is the first time I've seen a proper negative feeling. So come on guys, no system is going to please everyone all the time - everyone hates change. Lets give the new Classified a while to get going and lets offer help and ideas and not try to be too dismissive if doesn't suit us immediately. The Classified might solve some problems, it might cause some. Nothing is cast in stone here, or so it would seem. So with good input we should get something that we all find suitable for all needs.

to all our Mods and Techs for their excellent work and willingness to embrace new ideas and make those changes we all desire where possible.

[guest311]

It seems that there is quite some support for the old buy and sell system, although I see Tank's point about the time it could consume to monitor.

on a couple of occasions I noted that items had gone, and asked for the thread to be closed, but nothing happened, and I could not delete it myself.

perhaps we could keep the buy and sell feature but with some changes :

1. the member who started the post can close / lock / delete it when it has served it's purpose.
2. the post will self destruct after a predetermined time [two or three months ?] so dead posts will not continue to clutter up the site.

if after the time your item has not sold, or you have not been offered the item if a buy, then you can always post again.

just a suggestion.

by the way, can we use my suggestion of BIN with a price plus ono ?

[Mirrlees]

It seems that there is quite some support for the old buy and sell system, although I see Tank's point about the time it could consume to monitor.

on a couple of occasions I noted that items had gone, and asked for the thread to be closed, but nothing happened, and I could not delete it myself.

perhaps we could keep the buy and sell feature but with some changes :

1. the member who started the post can close / lock / delete it when it has served it's purpose.
2. the post will self destruct after a predetermined time [two or three months ?] so dead posts will not continue to clutter up the site.

if after the time your item has not sold, or you have not been offered the item if a buy, then you can always post again.

just a suggestion.

by the way, can we use my suggestion of BIN with a price plus ono ?

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