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Title: The angry thread
Post by: findus on March 29, 2011, 09:42:45 PM
This is the place to let of steam about anything that angers you!

I hate stupid tv programs that my trainee wife watches; cougar town, the hills, glee ,sex and the city,90210,  >:( >:( >:(






the small print!
Just make sure its not in anyway offensive or directed at anybody on the forum..


Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Claude Dreyfus on March 29, 2011, 10:04:22 PM
A rant thread...fantastic!  ;D It just so happens that I have a grumble especially saved up for this!

At the moment I have a number of colleagues from the continent visiting for a project I am working on. Two of them arrived yesterday and I took the opportunity to order lunch through one of the PAs. Just an ordinary lunch - sandwiches, crisps, a few cakes and some drinks. Sure, there were a number of us - 16 all told - but this is not excessive.

At the end of the day I was presented with the invoice for me to sign-off and charge against my project...what I saw left me stunned!

£200 FOR SOME LOUSEY BL***Y SANDWICHES!!!

That equates to £12.50 per head. Had I known this, I would have taken £50.00 and gone down to the local supermarket and grabbed enough food to more than cater for the numbers - and appetites - involved. I know it's not my money, and that my company has made a several hundred million dollar profit in the past financial year, but some people really take the wee-wee.

I hate being ripped off...irrespective whose money it is. I hate the fact that hotels think they can charge £10.00 for a bit of toast, or special arrangements with travel companies means you end up paying waaay over the odds (last year I made the mistake of booking my own flights and hotel for a business trip to Sweden...I got told off for not going through the correct channels; even though I could demonstrate that my 'breach' had actually saved the company over £250.00!!!).

I hate taxi and private hire companies that lump on that bit extra when thay learn you are travelling on business, or airports that charge you £5.20 in the short-term carpark with tiny bays that cannot accomodate a Fiat 500, let alone a dirty great Volvo, for a 40 minute stay...just because they can. It's Gatwick for Christ's sake, not the middle of Tokyo...there's tons of space around...its not at a premium here!!

The more I travel on company business, the more charlatans, shysters and chancers I seem to come across.

And that is my rant for the day....

I thank you...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on March 30, 2011, 06:41:21 AM
I guess everyone dislikes certain things in life but for me its Banks and their high fees, Oil Companies ripping people off, Supermarkets making disgusting profits, Drug Companies charging the earth for what is life saving medication for some.

Nothing bugs me worse than manufacturers releasing new models of things like Digital Cameras and Computerised things more often than some people change their underpants, this continual plundering greed on peoples wallets and purses is sickening.

Last of all I hate the fact that here in Australia the gap between the haves and have nots had grown so wide, on one hand we have these stuck up Yuppies snubbing their noses at everyone and everything, on the other hand we have people barely surviving on their earnings and getting slugged by massive electricity bills and such.

Other than that I guess I have my health at the moment and to me that is the most important, the rest is just a fact of modern day living, would also be nice to see people become more tolerant to each other, its just as easy to say something nice to someone as it is to say something bad.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on March 30, 2011, 01:35:46 PM
I've just been doing some soldering on the new layout.  I HATE SOLDERING!!!!  The amount of times that the solder came off of the rails. >:( >:( >:(

Then I remembered, that although the solder has flux in it, I needed to use more flux.  Then it stuck solid as a rock ;D

Tomorrows job also involves soldering in the electrical power unit for my CCTV on the house. ::)  I need to remove the 500mA fuses and put in 1A fuses - as the new cameras are too powerful compared to the old'uns.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: cupoftea on March 30, 2011, 04:28:51 PM
Quote from: Tank on March 30, 2011, 01:35:46 PM
I've just been doing some soldering on the new layout.  I HATE SOLDERING!!!!  The amount of times that the solder came off of the rails. >:( >:( >:(

And there was me about to start a 'Joy of Soldering' thread................................
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on March 30, 2011, 04:30:17 PM
 ;D  I'm just glad that it's not warmer, as I was in the workshop, and the doctors surgery is next door.....no kiddies to hear my cursing!   >:(    :thumbsup:


I'd appreciate a tutorial to help me improve. :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on March 30, 2011, 09:37:47 PM
Quote from: findus on March 29, 2011, 09:42:45 PM
This is the place to let of steam about anything that angers you!

I hate stupid tv programs that my trainee wife watches; cougar town, the hills, glee ,sex and the city,90210,  >:( >:( >:(






the small print!
Just make sure its not in anyway offensive or directed at anybody on the forum..





Just like my missus I hate the programmes she watches
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: findus on March 30, 2011, 10:04:48 PM
Quote from: owl729 on March 30, 2011, 09:37:47 PM
Quote from: findus on March 29, 2011, 09:42:45 PM
This is the place to let of steam about anything that angers you!

I hate stupid tv programs that my trainee wife watches; cougar town, the hills, glee ,sex and the city,90210,  >:( >:( >:(






the small print!
Just make sure its not in anyway offensive or directed at anybody on the forum..





Just like my missus I hate the programmes she watches

I actually feel dumber for watching it!  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: findus on March 31, 2011, 01:49:39 PM
Wedding plans  >:( >:( >:(  is there ever going to be any end to the cost?

the worst part is im paying and the only thing i get out of this is a new ball and chain  ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on March 31, 2011, 02:43:47 PM
I'll wind you up about that on Saturday!  I used to hate it, as it was all the Mrs would talk about. ::)     :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on March 31, 2011, 02:55:54 PM
Quote from: findus on March 31, 2011, 01:49:39 PM
Wedding plans  >:( >:( >:(  is there ever going to be any end to the cost?

Yep, cancel it  :evil:

One way or another it will work out cheaper in the long run  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: moogle on March 31, 2011, 07:37:40 PM
I'm currently full of cold and I hate it 'cos I can't concentrate on doing any modelling!
There, rant over. Feel better already.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on March 31, 2011, 10:07:10 PM
Literally brought my layout in from the workshop, connected up the wires to the Prodigy Advance 2, and BANG!  The lights in my lounge have gone out.   >:( :thumbsdown:  In the dark now.  I'll have to check the layout out in the morning.  Too much effort at this time of night!!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: findus on March 31, 2011, 10:17:08 PM
The forum went against my idea  :P 

and tank has got away with the extra work load  :thumbsdown:

:smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on March 31, 2011, 10:18:06 PM
Oi! ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: findus on March 31, 2011, 10:19:13 PM
Only joking you do a very good job and dont need the extra work!  :-*
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on April 01, 2011, 06:32:16 PM
Traffic jam on the M6. Was working in Birmingham today, I even left early but guess what? Stuck in a jam!!!!!!!! ironically the stretch of motor way i was on was directly above Washwood Heath railfreight yard and I could see all the trains go by under me, mocking me with their speed compared to mine.................................... :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Quacker1964 on April 01, 2011, 09:38:14 PM
I hate it when you're ironing (not solder) and the phone rings!

Bloody hurts :evil:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on April 02, 2011, 08:16:09 AM
 :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: findus on April 13, 2011, 10:55:45 PM
What a day at work.. Trying to make a booking for a patient and i ask there name, "colin" he replies, so i type colin into my computer and nothing comes up so i ask are you sure its under that name "yes im sure, i have been here many times" ok try again and nothing.. so i ask for his name once more "its thomas" he says  ???  i asked why did he not say that the first time, he says that he does not like to give his real name to people he has only just met!! And to top it off after all that he then descovers he is in the wrong opticians  >:( 


Walking home from work i pass over newbury rail station and nothing really ever passes through apart from today, the only day i get out 10 mins later from work.
All i see is the tail end of a steam engine and a Ews class 67  >:( >:(

Can my patients not understand closing time.. If your going blind do it when im open!!


and for the final event, i arrive home to start my ballasting and thought i would test the electrics and end up having a small forest fire :( my cdu went up in smoke!!

>:( >:(



Final thoughts anybody called colin/thomas stay well away!!  anybody with detail on what engine i missed would be great..
I think i will model a fire scene on the corner of my layout for the competition  8) I looks life like... Oh wait it is  :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Vulcan on April 13, 2011, 11:10:11 PM
A few minor things that annoy me:

When the glue glues itself up,

When you run out of something and need more to continue, but it has to wait until you go to the model shop next,

Nicknames given to diesel engines by mad enthusiasts - you are not 'cool' because you call a class 66 a 'shed', or worse still, a freightliner 66 a 'fred'!

Washing the dishes

and loads more that arn't appropriate for this forum!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on April 13, 2011, 11:45:03 PM
Dog Sh#t, I stood in some today. :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on April 14, 2011, 09:32:04 PM
Even Worse! I had to scrape the dried Dog Sh#t out of the tread of my boot this morning to prevent me smelling like dog toffee all day. It got even more worse than that..........................................................I did a rural job this afternoon and had to cross a field hence I ended up stepping in a massive cowpatt!!!!!! :thumbsdown: :( :( :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: findus on April 14, 2011, 09:48:51 PM
Massive cow pat  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

Makes me feel a little better now  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Adam1701D on April 14, 2011, 09:51:51 PM
After an afternoon spent nudging vector cutting guides over a bitmap, finally printing and cutting some sides and then finding they are 1mm too tall, you could say I'm pretty narked off with the Class 312!

It's all fixed now but what a total migraine-inducer  >:(

I should have some prototype 312 pics ready soon!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on April 14, 2011, 10:12:09 PM
Quote from: findus on April 14, 2011, 09:48:51 PM
Massive cow pat  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

Makes me feel a little better now  :thumbsup:

Thats two days in the row now involving poo. The way it's going I reckon it's gonna be a sh#t weekend for me.............. :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: cloughie on April 17, 2011, 10:49:27 AM
remember the army saying " always in the s##t, it`s just the depth that varies
anyway take it home for the garden, it`s good for the roses.

as for me, started new job on monday, found out the fire extinguishers on the truck did not have the next service date on em, the brush was missing, no fuel site book, the cab phone was a P.D.A. one and you need a driver number to make the thing work ( guess who did not have one) got down to tilbury and the fuel card did not work, later on in the week had to buy 20 litres of adblue out of me own pocket as none of the depots did not stock any, and life goes on :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on April 17, 2011, 10:56:37 AM
 >:(  I`m fuming.
Went up to London early this morning to take my place in the Virgin London Marathon and got turned away :-[
Seems I dont qualify just because they found out that I lost my viginity years ago and I`m not from London......... so...........
1......not a virgin
2.....not from London  ::)
 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on April 17, 2011, 11:00:46 AM
Unlucky mate. :thumbsdown:  I just finished the marathon and am now enjoying a cup of tea.  Another medal to send to Cash4Gold! ::) ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: cloughie on April 17, 2011, 11:12:21 AM
I like mars bars better than marathons :smiley-laughing: :wave:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: findus on April 17, 2011, 10:40:28 PM
Quote from: owl729 on April 14, 2011, 10:12:09 PM
Quote from: findus on April 14, 2011, 09:48:51 PM
Massive cow pat  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

Makes me feel a little better now  :thumbsup:

Thats two days in the row now involving poo. The way it's going I reckon it's gonna be a sh#t weekend for me.............. :(

I hit a turd today wile out on my bike  :thumbsdown:   will look strange to anybody passing by as there is a massive skid mark heading straight for it  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lesmond on June 01, 2011, 09:06:27 PM
I've just finished an awesomely s****y day, and am sitting here at home angry, going on for furious, (not like me) and wanting to break things (really not like me). The Sky remote nearly found itself through the TV about 10 mins ago, and I'm seriously considering taking myself off out for the night before I really lose my temper.

Haven't even a railway to play trains on. F***!!!!  :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on June 01, 2011, 09:22:29 PM
Serves you right for subscribing to Sky anyway  ;)  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

We all get them mate (you want to try moderating a forum for a few days, sheesh  ::) )  you'll get through it, you have, you've got a layout to build  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Adam1701D on June 01, 2011, 09:53:33 PM
Got put forward for an interview with Virgin Media today for tech support. Now, I've had approaches from agencies about similar roles but had do decline, as I just don't have the high-level TCP/IP / Cisco networking knowledge they're after.

Asked the agency, "does this need high-level networking knowledge, cos I don't have it", "oh, no - not this one", they say.

So I roll up to Virgin today all suited and booted and the first thing they do is present me with a technical test.

Guess what...all questions about TCP/IP, Cisco and a lot of stuff I've never even come across. I sit there like a lemon for 15 mins, not even going to embarrass myself by trying.

"I think I was sent to this interview by mistake", I told the interviewers. After apologies all round and opinions of recruitment agencies exchanged, we decided to go our own separate ways, rather than prolong the agony.

Anyway, my wife picked me up, we got home, when she went to open the door, our Staffie leaped up in excitement and slammed the door on her hand. 25 kilos of flying Staffie can cause quite a whack and we're hoping that a trip to A&E isn't on the cards.

Awful bloody day, really.  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lesmond on June 01, 2011, 10:12:42 PM
@ Lawrence - I know.. I really should know better, but there's a story involving Battlestar Galactica and Virgin Media. Feeling a bit better now, off to bed soon. Bit scared / annoyed with myself I was so angry though, could really have had someone's head on a stick outside the front door earlier on, and was hoping for a telesales call so I could reduce them to tears.

@ captainelectra - that is a bad day. I know a fair bit about TCP/IP, but nothing of Cisco and their demonic ways. That said, I had a big, long chat with some incompetent f***wit at Virgin Media support earlier today ("it's your cable modem" "what, all three that I've tried, including two that I know work?" "no, it must be your modem, or maybe its your PC") so could be you had a lucky escape.

Bad news about the mrs though, Staffie's are a lovely dog, and awfully friendly, but sometimes a bit too keen. Is she OK since?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Adam1701D on June 01, 2011, 10:25:55 PM
Still very sore, I'm afraid... >:(

Grappa, our 4-yr old Staffie is a lovely beastie but very full-on and bouncy. We just need to leave the house for an hour and it's as if we've been away for a year when we return...

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5266/5591045357_6a721721c9_z.jpg)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lesmond on June 02, 2011, 07:08:41 AM
Did you escape the visit to A&E?

That's a beautiful dog, though. A Staffie would be my dog of choice, but I haven't the room to do one justice, so I spoil other people's instead. I love it that they're always happy. Thanks for posting the pic.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 02, 2011, 08:39:29 AM
Come on guys - don't get me started. Repeats on TV and the attitude 'you're going out anyway so we'll put a load of s**t on your telly'. Am I alone in thinking that repeating Dad's Army at prime time on a Saturday night shows a 'don't care' attitude? An entire evening filled with Come Dine with me? The person who schedules TV should be made to watch it all. Still, at least we have the best coverage in the world of Formula 1 and the coverage starts soon for the Isle of Man TT on ITV4. I am really glad I have plenty of Railway DVD's to watch (even if they are repeats 'cos I've seen them before). At least they provide inspiration for modelling. Poor driving, national companies who scale the heights of incompetence, Alex Ferguson chewing gum so politely, etc etc - I should be on the Grumpy Old Men programme - the repeat of course! Now then, where did I put those industrial strength Valiums? I know I'm paranoid, but am I paranoid enough?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lesmond on June 02, 2011, 01:29:28 PM
There are currently six things I watch on TV; I record them and watch them at leisure. All the rest is a big load of poop.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 02, 2011, 01:37:57 PM
Ahem - we seem to be back to the poop again. One of my favourites is Midsomer Murders but as it turns out to be 2 hours of adverts interspersed with bits of MM i agree with you - use the recording equipment and blast through the adverts. Unless of course it happens to be the Adios ad - another one for the guys from Adios - it can be seen on YouTube if you think I've had the wrong sort of mushrooms for breakfast!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: grumbeast on June 02, 2011, 03:40:57 PM
On the subject of TV, consider yourselves lucky!  Canadian TV is so crap its not funny, 200 channels of either American dross, or "canadian content" rules drivel about hockey or anne of green bloody gables!  Oh and all of those really crappy sit coms / reality TV shows that get invented in the UK, we take, take any good bits out, add even worse people and put that out at prime time.  I'm looking forward to the 5% good TV in the UK when I get back, its still 100% more than I've had here for the last 16 years

Mind you I shouldn't complain, I got rid of cable 2 years ago! :) :)  just have an apple TV and a bunch of DVDs now

Graham
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: m1racleman on June 02, 2011, 03:49:19 PM
Dunno woy yor awl copaynin abowt !!!
When I wer a lad we drawed a picher on a box and watched that !! At least you get mooving pichers and edyoucashunal progs two !!
Reguards
Disgruntled of Maidstone
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lesmond on June 02, 2011, 03:57:14 PM
The absolute bestest thing ever to come out of Canadian TV has to be the Trailer Park Boys, which got an airing here a few years ago. I now have it all on DVD  ;D always makes me laugh.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on June 02, 2011, 03:59:04 PM
Quote from: m1racleman on June 02, 2011, 03:49:19 PM
Dunno woy yor awl copaynin abowt !!!
When I wer a lad we drawed a picher on a box and watched that !! At least you get mooving pichers and edyoucashunal progs two !!
Reguards
Disgruntled of Maidstone
Been there, done that and got the Tee shirt but I`m told that colour TV is even worse. I`m not looking forward to it getting to to our area  next year >:(  
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: m1racleman on June 02, 2011, 04:03:50 PM
That's wear myne is soo gud! I doo my pichers with colored chawks !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on June 02, 2011, 04:13:54 PM
Quote from: m1racleman on June 02, 2011, 04:03:50 PM
That's wear myne is soo gud! I doo my pichers with colored chawks !
Thats just discusticating :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: porkie on June 02, 2011, 07:46:55 PM
My stupid wife forgot to post my deposit of to mercig for my new loco  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lesmond on June 02, 2011, 08:16:07 PM
That's a low move. Proper forgetfulness or enemy action  ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on June 02, 2011, 08:21:34 PM
Went all the way over to Greenham Common today to see if there were any USAF left overs I could nick :-[ I mean offer a good home to.
We took my mobility scooter after giving it a good service and tyre check. Thought I would use my sat-nav to check out its top speed and do  a couple of speed trials down the main runway.
Not only did the yanks strip all the nickable ...ooops I mean good stuff out when they left but some %"^ger has been there sinse and nicked all the tarmac from the runway.
Still the family thought it was an interesting afternoon out and in some ways I have to agree
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on June 02, 2011, 08:32:59 PM
Some years ago I worked for a courier company and had to deliver a package to a farmer,I handed him my pen to sign for the goods........you think cow s**t on your shoes is bad enough,try it on the pen you need to use for the rest of the day. ;D

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on June 02, 2011, 09:01:09 PM
We must be faring better with Aussie TV as we can still watch "Are you being Served" , "Doc Martin", and the occasional "Carry On" movie, one of the nice things about being behind everyone else I guess. :thumbsup:

Having said that we get our fair share of canned laugh shows from across the ditch and SWMBO loves her "Bold and Beautiful" and "Home and Away" :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lesmond on June 03, 2011, 07:29:36 AM
It's <whichever country you want's> Next Top Flipping Model that mine likes.. I hate that show sooo much.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on June 03, 2011, 08:21:56 AM
Morning all, can I just take a moment to remind everyone that this is a public forum that can be read by anyone of any age, and whilst it is nice to vent your spleen from time to time, can I ask all members to monitor their colourful choice of phrasing, including regional derivatives  ;)  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lesmond on June 03, 2011, 02:41:02 PM
Duly noted - sorry
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on June 03, 2011, 09:31:56 PM
Quote from: oldrailbug on June 02, 2011, 09:01:09 PM
We must be faring better with Aussie TV as we can still watch "Are you being Served" , "Doc Martin", and the occasional "Carry On" movie, one of the nice things about being behind everyone else I guess. :thumbsup:

Having said that we get our fair share of canned laugh shows from across the ditch and SWMBO loves her "Bold and Beautiful" and "Home and Away" :thumbsdown:

Think yourselves lucky. In the UK we still get Eastenders, Coronation Street, Emmerdale, Hollyoaks and repeats of Desperate Housewives pretty much 24/7 (all rubbish soap ops) My missus is addicted to em!!!

I hate em!
The worst thing though, which makes me post on this particular thread is Britains got talent (A rubbish entertainment act search show :thumbsdown:)
I have to endure this Effing misery every night!!!!!!

On the plus side at least when it's on my wife dont bother me!  More N Gauge..... ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on June 03, 2011, 09:36:48 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on June 03, 2011, 08:21:56 AM
Morning all, can I just take a moment to remind everyone that this is a public forum that can be read by anyone of any age, and whilst it is nice to vent your spleen from time to time, can I ask all members to monitor their colourful choice of phrasing, including regional derivatives  ;)  :smiley-laughing:

Sorry Lawrence, I just noted the moderation bit!!!    I only said effing in my thread (spelt E-F-F-I-N-G), the kids round our way say worse, and some of these guys have the best layouts on the block :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lesmond on June 04, 2011, 09:12:37 AM
Hi Owl,

It was me he was speaking to - all sorted now  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: moogle on June 04, 2011, 10:48:37 AM
Quote from: Lawrence on June 03, 2011, 08:21:56 AM
Morning all, can I just take a moment to remind everyone that this is a public forum that can be read by anyone of any age, and whilst it is nice to vent your spleen from time to time, can I ask all members to monitor their colourful choice of phrasing, including regional derivatives  ;)  :smiley-laughing:

A notice to us all really...

...and that should include 'foreign' versions of any 'colourful metaphores' as this forum can be seen by anyone in the world!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lesmond on June 04, 2011, 11:10:48 AM
Don't say *e*k!!! Got me into trouble, that did  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on June 04, 2011, 03:18:24 PM
Moogle is quite right, it was a wee heads up for everyone.  No recriminations, so thats the end of it.

Now, can you get back to being angry please  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lesmond on June 04, 2011, 04:43:36 PM
I'm actually quite calm today, I'll have to find something to annoy me.. where's the Daily Wail?  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on June 04, 2011, 04:46:41 PM
I am angry it's been glorious sunshine today and mr rain has to spoil it tonight.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on June 04, 2011, 04:50:21 PM
Buying from outside the EU?  The threshold for when you have to pay import VAT is being reduced from £18.00 to £15.00 on the 1st of November 20011.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lesmond on June 04, 2011, 05:02:26 PM
HMRC and the never ending quest for easy money continues.. not that has made me angry  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on June 04, 2011, 05:09:22 PM
What really annoys me is when you buy something from abroad e.g. America and you pay the postage at that end.
When it arrives in the UK the Customs and Excise hold it to check the value and the Post Office then charge another £8.00 to collect and deliver it at this end.

.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: cudders on June 04, 2011, 05:18:41 PM
Hmmm,

Man Utd..Wayne Rooney..Alex Ferguson...Man Utd fans...  bit of a theme there.  :smiley-laughing:

Reality TV shows..what a pile of...@@@@. 

And why does anyone give those losers Kerry Katona and Katie Price any air time or more to the point WATCH IT!!!!

I feel better now.  ::)

Cudders
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: SymonC on June 04, 2011, 05:34:10 PM
Quote from: poliss on June 04, 2011, 04:50:21 PM
Buying from outside the EU?  The threshold for when you have to pay import VAT is being reduced from £18.00 to £15.00 on the 1st of November 20011.


November 20,011

That's one hell of a time away! ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on June 04, 2011, 05:42:01 PM
Always happens when you alter what you've written and then don't proofread properly.  :-\

So, Royal Mail charge £8.00 for filling the import form, but in their Parcelfarce guise they charge £13.50 if the package is sent by the EMS service. Is the form 1,000 extra pages or what???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on June 04, 2011, 06:15:44 PM
The cost of food goes up every week even when the fuel drops by 2p it still goes up.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on June 04, 2011, 06:18:16 PM
If pigs could fly would the price of bacon go up?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on June 04, 2011, 08:17:55 PM
If pigs could fly I bet shotgun ownership would rise
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on June 04, 2011, 08:19:57 PM
If pigs could fly I would need a parachute  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on June 04, 2011, 09:14:37 PM
I feel sorry for my mates at home paying both ends when buying overseas, that is pretty disgraceful, here in Aussie if I buy from England we don't have to pay your VAT which pays for the postage and no extra charge when it arrives at our doorsteps a week later.

Sadly the local hobby shop is becoming a thing of the past over here, we save at least 50% to 70% by buying our train stuff from Hattons in the UK or Trainworld in the USA.

One example is Peco Points from Hattons @ $13au including postage, to buy in a shop here we are looking at $28au.

Problem, wages, superannuation for staff, overheads and rents on shops way to expensive and the cost of living in Oz is increasing all the time, we really don't have much choice but to buy overseas if we want to continue with our hobby.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on June 05, 2011, 09:15:45 AM
Quote from: Lawrence on June 04, 2011, 03:18:24 PM
Now, can you get back to being angry please  :smiley-laughing:

>:( >:( IM NOT ANGRY  >:( NEVER  >:(EVER >:(
Its not in my nature
Now let us get on with our lives  >:(
;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on June 05, 2011, 01:31:03 PM
My turn!

As some of you know, my laptop died just over a week ago.  This had all of the files on it from the last 3 months (that I hadn't backed up), and designs I'd made for the forum. :'(  It was a Hard Drive error, and I suspect everything is lost.  Even some photo's. :computerangry:

I've been working today trying to install my software for my graphics on my old but faithful PC, so I can redesign the images that are lost - mainly the shirt graphics. :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on June 05, 2011, 02:04:32 PM
If you have files that you really want to recover and the drive has stopped turning, you could try the freezer method of recovering data. http://www.datarecoverypros.com/hard-drive-recovery-freeze.html
As it's a laptop you will need an external 2.5" enclosure to plug the HD into.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on June 05, 2011, 02:13:09 PM
Thanks Poliss.  Yes, I have a 2.5" caddy, and I can hear/feel the disks spinning, so that website says not to freeze it.  I think I'll have to send it off for recovery, as I've always been successful with using caddies before. 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: moogle on June 05, 2011, 03:37:28 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on June 04, 2011, 05:09:22 PM
What really annoys me is when you buy something from abroad e.g. America and you pay the postage at that end.
When it arrives in the UK the Customs and Excise hold it to check the value and the Post Office then charge another £8.00 to collect and deliver it at this end.

.

I've ordered quite a few times bits from Japan and China on Ebay and have never been charged! Maybe I was just lucky...  ;D
Model railway stuff doesn't generally attract much attention it seems!  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: moogle on June 05, 2011, 03:39:47 PM
Quote from: poliss on June 04, 2011, 05:42:01 PM
Always happens when you alter what you've written and then don't proofread properly.  :-\

So, Royal Mail charge £8.00 for filling the import form, but in their Parcelfarce guise they charge £13.50 if the package is sent by the EMS service. Is the form 1,000 extra pages or what???

Its not that the form has 1,000 pages - its because they have to hire staff who can read and write properly!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: moogle on June 05, 2011, 03:42:04 PM
As far as being ANGRY goes, applying for every job I find and not even getting an interview makes me   >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(

There, rant over!  ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Alex on June 05, 2011, 09:38:34 PM
Hi,

Took delivery of our brand new car last Tuesday and some t**t ran into the side of it today while it was parked in the street.

Am I p***ed or what  >:( >:(

Alex
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: cudders on June 06, 2011, 12:19:08 PM
Ouch 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: findus on June 15, 2011, 11:37:40 PM
WEDDING PLANS  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on June 16, 2011, 06:25:22 AM
Quote from: findus on June 15, 2011, 11:37:40 PM
WEDDING PLANS  >:(

Double Ouch
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on June 16, 2011, 08:36:59 AM
Quote from: findus on June 15, 2011, 11:37:40 PM
WEDDING PLANS  >:(

Best either left to the womenfolk or not bothered with all together  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 17, 2011, 08:06:23 PM
Incessant reminders of updates for your computer that you ignore for as long as possible before they drive you mad, then click "OK to download", find the update takes 3 days to download + restart your computer. GRRRRRRR
TV adverts that shout at you. They know who they are - double glazing, flooring, outdoor clothing/tents etc. Where's the mute button.....................
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: findus on June 17, 2011, 08:15:56 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on June 17, 2011, 08:06:23 PM
Incessant reminders of updates for your computer that you ignore for as long as possible before they drive you mad, then click "OK to download", find the update takes 3 days to download + restart your computer. GRRRRRRR

This drives me mad! at home on the wifi no updates! as soon as i go out on a work trip and connect the iphone, every update possible wants to drain my data usage  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on June 17, 2011, 08:51:32 PM
Quote from: findus on June 15, 2011, 11:37:40 PM
WEDDING PLANS  >:(
he heeeeeeeeee  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:, heheeeeeeeeee :smiley-laughing:


(sowwie  :smiley-laughing: :wave:)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: findus on June 18, 2011, 12:48:17 PM
Quote from: jonclox on June 17, 2011, 08:51:32 PM
Quote from: findus on June 15, 2011, 11:37:40 PM
WEDDING PLANS  >:(
he heeeeeeeeee  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:, heheeeeeeeeee :smiley-laughing:


(sowwie  :smiley-laughing: :wave:)

tHANKS.............   :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:   

Day spent looking at wedding shoes! to top it off we went past 2 model shops and was not allowed in  >:(   
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 18, 2011, 01:46:27 PM
How about a nice pair of train(er)s?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: SymonC on June 18, 2011, 01:48:04 PM
Quote from: findus on June 18, 2011, 12:48:17 PM
Quote from: jonclox on June 17, 2011, 08:51:32 PM
Quote from: findus on June 15, 2011, 11:37:40 PM
WEDDING PLANS  >:(
he heeeeeeeeee  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:, heheeeeeeeeee :smiley-laughing:


(sowwie  :smiley-laughing: :wave:)

tHANKS.............   :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:   

Day spent looking at wedding shoes! to top it off we went past 2 model shops and was not allowed in  >:(   



Surely you want it to be a model wedding ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: findus on June 18, 2011, 03:03:10 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on June 18, 2011, 01:46:27 PM
How about a nice pair of train(er)s?

:smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: findus on June 18, 2011, 03:04:09 PM
Quote from: SymonC on June 18, 2011, 01:48:04 PM
Quote from: findus on June 18, 2011, 12:48:17 PM
Quote from: jonclox on June 17, 2011, 08:51:32 PM
Quote from: findus on June 15, 2011, 11:37:40 PM
WEDDING PLANS  >:(
he heeeeeeeeee  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:, heheeeeeeeeee :smiley-laughing:


(sowwie  :smiley-laughing: :wave:)

Day spent looking at wedding shoes! to top it off we went past 2 model shops and was not allowed in  >:(   



Surely you want it to be a model wedding ;D

I knew i would get great support here  :-\

keep it up  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on June 18, 2011, 03:46:42 PM
Quote from: findus on June 18, 2011, 03:04:09 PM
Quote from: SymonC on June 18, 2011, 01:48:04 PM
Quote from: findus on June 18, 2011, 12:48:17 PM
Quote from: jonclox on June 17, 2011, 08:51:32 PM
Quote from: findus on June 15, 2011, 11:37:40 PM
WEDDING PLANS  >:(
he heeeeeeeeee  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:, heheeeeeeeeee :smiley-laughing:


(sowwie  :smiley-laughing: :wave:)

Day spent looking at wedding shoes! to top it off we went past 2 model shops and was not allowed in  >:(   



Surely you want it to be a model wedding ;D

I knew i would get great support here  :-\

keep it up  :thumbsup:

Just train yourself to accept that it will be run to her timetable and you can only follow on as a spare part.
Think of all the tender loving thats got you to this set of points in this life
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on June 18, 2011, 09:31:02 PM
I got angry earlier today at the village library.

Until recently I used the traveling library,it used to come every two weeks and stopped right outside,no limit to how long you could have a book out for so no overdue fines,a great service.I should point out that I mainly read paperback fiction as an aid to going to sleep at night,have done for most of my adult life and hardback books tend to be uncomfortable to hold up and when they drop on me because I've fallen asleep. ;D

Anyway because of cuts the mobile library no longer comes my way,not a problem I thought because I can use the one in the village and there's always a better selection there.
The paperbacks always used to be in those revolving racks and it was easy to go through each rack to choose books,especially as the front cover was often visible to give an indication of the contents.

Walked into the library this morning and some pillock in the library service has decided to change the layout,no longer any handy revolving racks with paperbacks,just rows of aisles and rows of book spines with paperback and hardback books mixed together,so unless you're looking for a particular author there's no way of telling what a book's about unless you pull it out to see the cover.Not much fun if you have walking difficulty like me either,especially with the crick in the neck that develops from reading book spines.

The system before would let lenders know if any particular book had been read before, this stopped the situation of getting home with books that had been read before,something I could easily do because I've read literally hundreds of paperback fiction books and cannot  always remember if I've already read any particular book.

With the new system that's installed that no longer happens,the lender has to open the book and hold it under a scanner,the return date no longer gets stamped inside,you just get a scrappy little receipt size print out of the titles and return date.
Got to return books within three weeks or get a fine now.

A good example of someone in an office deciding to mend something that wasn't broken.

Rant over.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on June 19, 2011, 11:32:13 AM
Quote from: Bikeracer on June 18, 2011, 09:31:02 PM
With the new system that's installed that no longer happens,the lender has to open the book and hold it under a scanner,the return date no longer gets stamped inside,you just get a scrappy little receipt size print out of the titles and return date.
Got to return books within three weeks or get a fine now.

A good example of someone in an office deciding to mend something that wasn't broken.

Rant over.

Allan

It's called long term planning. If they make it more unpleasant to use then the numbers using it will fall and they can close it. See the Dr Beeching book of management theory ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on June 19, 2011, 02:15:52 PM
I'd say complain to your councillors and your MP about the removal of the racks.
I've never heard of a library without a time limit for returning books. Maybe yours was unique?
Just had a look at the library service here. You can download ebooks and audio books for free if you're into that kind of thing.
You can browse the catalogue, reserve and renew books online. It can tell you if you've read a book before. Join the library or renew your membership online (just did that).
Just found out that our library is having a Chocolate Festival today with free chocs to eat.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on June 19, 2011, 07:00:19 PM
Quote from: poliss on June 19, 2011, 02:15:52 PM
I'd say complain to your councillors and your MP about the removal of the racks.
I've never heard of a library without a time limit for returning books. Maybe yours was unique?

Good idea....I've now done that.
There was no time limit on lending from the traveling library.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on June 19, 2011, 07:33:19 PM
Maybe because they could come round to your house and throw the book at you if you took overlong to return the books? :-)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on June 22, 2011, 05:23:15 PM
My new library card arrived today along with a leaflet about their services. We still have a mobile library along with a home delivery service if you have an illness or mobility problems. You can borrow up to 10 books for 4 weeks. Fine for overdue book 12p a day.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 22, 2011, 06:03:31 PM
I only have 2 books and I've coloured one in already :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on June 22, 2011, 07:56:04 PM
For a change of subject,something else that makes me angry......

Why is it that when the sports news is on the TV,especially the local news,the majority of the time seems to be just interviews with football managers having an inquest as to why they lost the last game.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: m1racleman on June 22, 2011, 08:26:15 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on June 22, 2011, 07:56:04 PM
For a change of subject,something else that makes me angry......

Why is it that when the sports news is on the TV,especially the local news,the majority of the time seems to be just interviews with football managers having an inquest as to why they lost the last game.

Allan
Perhaps it's because you came from Notts and winning football team from there is as rare as the proverbial rocking horse poo ??
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on June 22, 2011, 09:05:35 PM
I would like to know why sport is the most talked about and reported subject by the media full stop.

IMO sport has not been the same since the started paying sports people humungus amounts of money and worshiping them like Gods.

Maybe its not like it back home in the UK but the Aussies where I live are all sports crazy, when they are not talking sport they are brainwashing us with politics.  :evil:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on June 23, 2011, 07:56:33 AM
Quote from: m1racleman on June 22, 2011, 08:26:15 PM

Perhaps it's because you came from Notts and winning football team from there is as rare as the proverbial rocking horse poo ??

I just live in Notts,I originate in Derbyshire.

Dunno about football teams,as far as I'm concerned it's twenty two vastly overpaid men chasing a bag of wind and trying to kick it between two sticks  ;D
I'd be happier if my TV licence fee wasn't spent on so many hours of inconsequential football drivel and coverage.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on June 23, 2011, 09:55:58 AM
Absolutely, spend it on rugby instead

(obJoke:  Football is 22 people running around a field pretending it hurts, Rugby Union is 30 people running around a field pretending it doesn't)

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on June 23, 2011, 10:00:21 AM
Nice one EP!  :D  I'm a London Wasps fan myself.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: m1racleman on June 23, 2011, 10:06:07 AM
Quote from: Tank on June 23, 2011, 10:00:21 AM
Nice one EP!  :D  I'm a London Wasps fan myself.
Now that reminds me of one of the greatest poems of all time.

There was a young man from Dundee
Who got stung on the neck by a wasp
When asked " Does it hurt"
He said "Not a bit"
A good job it wasn't a hornet

Thanks to the late great Spike Malignant ( the well known spelling mistake)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Rod on June 23, 2011, 11:55:32 AM
I like it!

But what would you rather be, or a wasp?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on June 23, 2011, 01:25:13 PM
Quote from: Rod on June 23, 2011, 11:55:32 AM
I like it!

But what would you rather be, or a wasp?

To bee or not to bee that is the question
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on June 23, 2011, 01:32:07 PM
What would you rather be, or a wasp? A hornet, an ice cream hornet. What's the difference between a duck? One of it's legs is the same as the other.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: m1racleman on June 23, 2011, 01:41:53 PM
I could be wrong but I think this thread is getting darned silly !

Get it??? DARNED - THREAD ???? oh well, never mind  :'(
:NGAUGE:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on June 23, 2011, 01:43:15 PM
Sew what?  ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on June 25, 2011, 01:51:58 PM
ive got a hangover :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on June 25, 2011, 02:53:00 PM
I had to work this Saturday, and I have to work next Saturday 8pm until 3am - which is after I've been to a wedding all day. ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on June 25, 2011, 03:31:54 PM
Quote from: Tank on June 25, 2011, 02:53:00 PM
I had to work this Saturday, and I have to work next Saturday 8pm until 3am - which is after I've been to a wedding all day. ::)

8pm till 3am? Are you a nightclub bouncer? :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on June 25, 2011, 08:25:29 PM
:)  No mate, although I will be acting as one if there's trouble!  They're holding a special Ball, so I'm looking after everyone, sadly. :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on July 01, 2011, 08:23:21 PM
Proper Pi**ed off. Lost my wallet today, easy bit was canceling bank cards, hard bit is the DVLA, they do not have a dedicated number to report lost driving licenses. Their website is crap and they are really unhelpful, what sucks even more is that I lost cash as well and I have to wait up to 5 working days for my new cards to turn up. :'( :'( :'( :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on July 01, 2011, 08:35:37 PM
You want the really bad news owl?  Last year my mate got burgled, his wallet was one of the items taken, when he phoned the DVLA they told him it was going to cost £xx to replace his licence (can't remember the exact figure) he went mental and said, " I've just been burgled and now you b*******s are robbing me as well!"

So be prepared  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on July 01, 2011, 08:39:43 PM
I've just checked the DVLA website............£25! for replacement card!!!!! (F#~Kers!)  :(

Oh, and I just thought, I cant renew any way because my cards are all cancelled now and these idiots only take cards........ :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Alex on July 01, 2011, 09:17:14 PM
Hi,

It cost me £24 to get my license renewed earlier this year.

Alex
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: grumbeast on July 01, 2011, 10:13:40 PM
I have to pay that too..

except I got robbed by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police! .. they made me surrender my license when I got a New Brunswick one so I now have to replace it with the DVLA when I get back!.. Still I have the last laugh, I had an old welsh license that they didnt have a clue about!

Graham
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on July 07, 2011, 09:48:49 PM
UK Government past and present :thumbsdown:. Taxes at 20% VAT :thumbsdown: (affects my favorite hobby). News International Group :thumbsdown:. Rupert Murdoch :thumbsdown:.

Current affairs say it all................................ :thumbsdown:

Someone give us all some good news soon please, im fed up of being angry :-\
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 07, 2011, 09:53:12 PM
Sorry Owl - to post good news on an angry thread ist verboten.
I've just discovered I've paid £14.99 for my replacement E111 Euro Health Card because there are some scam sites that look official.
May their fingers forever pierce the toilet paper >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on July 07, 2011, 11:45:27 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 07, 2011, 09:53:12 PM
Sorry Owl - to post good news on an angry thread ist verboten.
I've just discovered I've paid £14.99 for my replacement E111 Euro Health Card because there are some scam sites that look official.
May their fingers forever pierce the toilet paper >:(

It seems any good news these days ist verboten :(

Sorry to hear about your E111 card. No doubt a scam site connected to the news of the World group, they seem to be shafting every one else these days.......   they are a total Wunch of Bankers.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on July 08, 2011, 01:23:38 AM
Oh dear. If only you had asked me first. Wasn't long ago that I got my free EHIC card.
Here's the real URL for those thinking of applying. https://www.ehic.org.uk/Internet/home.do
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: findus on July 10, 2011, 07:07:04 PM
EBAY ERROR  :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

Found a class 08 i wanted so placed a bid... wile waiting for the auction to end i went on looking to find another class 08 the same as the one im bidding on, so i put it in my watched section.
later i went back to see how i was doing bidding wise only to find i had been out bid so i placed a bid on the other. now here comes the error
i placed another bid on the first and won!
i payed up and recive an email saying i had just one a class 08  :-\
i had placed a higher amout on the 2nd 08 and now i have 2 on the way  :o

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on July 10, 2011, 07:13:36 PM
Whoops!  If it's DCC I'll put an offer in.  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: upnick on July 10, 2011, 07:16:02 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 10, 2011, 07:13:36 PM
Whoops!  If it's DCC I'll put an offer in.  ;)

You looking for a DCC   08 Tank ?  which  livery &  version  the old or  new style side rods ? 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on July 10, 2011, 07:18:55 PM
Not fussed, as long as it's a good price.  :)

Findus, I was in Chat and you disappeared. ::) :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tadpole on July 10, 2011, 07:29:19 PM
Not fussed? This is meant to be the angry thread, and you're not fussed!?!
You should be incandescent with rage at the merest hint that it might not meet your precise specifications. >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: upnick on July 10, 2011, 07:34:41 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 10, 2011, 07:18:55 PM
Not fussed, as long as it's a good price.  :)

Have a  Br blue  08  the new type with outside rods  Tank  fitted with TCS  Z2  decoder from  Digitrains   done very little track time  after  decoder fitting.



Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on July 10, 2011, 07:45:06 PM
Quote from: tadpole on July 10, 2011, 07:29:19 PM
Not fussed? This is meant to be the angry thread, and you're not fussed!?!
You should be incandescent with rage at the merest hint that it might not meet your precise specifications. >:(

;D  I'll remember that for next time!


>:( >:( >:(

Quote from: upnick on July 10, 2011, 07:34:41 PM
Have a  Br blue  08  the new type with outside rods  Tank  fitted with TCS  Z2  decoder from  Digitrains   done very little track time  after  decoder fitting.

Shall PM you!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on July 10, 2011, 10:13:22 PM
Talking about DCC I am not angry but my Mate is, he did the block with his Dynamis DCC thingy yesterday and chucked it across his massive shed onto a concrete floor, poor old Dynamis :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:  ;D ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on July 13, 2011, 07:30:59 PM
Our freezer packed up and the local shop I usually deal with sent a new one out and took the old one away.

Why has some prat,probably a been counter decided that an appliance only needs one leveling foot ?

The leveling foot is too thick and will not screw up far enough to let the other front corner touch the floor,the consequence of this is a freezer that does a waltz on three feet when you pull the door open.

A cardboard shim under the high foot/hinge support will stop it,but I'm damned if I'm sliding bits of cardboard under the hinge side to compensate for a manufacturers stupidity.

Anyway it's gone back and we are freezerless at the moment.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 13, 2011, 09:35:33 PM
Allan - I wouldn't have gone through all that trouble. I'd have got a builder in to make the floor 'male chicken' (changed by forum)-eyed so my freezer with one adjustable foot would stand level. Simples.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on July 13, 2011, 10:52:24 PM
One adjustable foot should work fine, provided they used the correct ones on the other three.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: findus on July 14, 2011, 12:08:32 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 13, 2011, 09:35:33 PM
Allan - I wouldn't have gone through all that trouble. I'd have got a builder in to make the floor 'male chicken' (changed by forum)-eyed so my freezer with one adjustable foot would stand level. Simples.

I agree this would have been a much better option  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on July 14, 2011, 11:04:53 AM
You need one of these

http://www.funnycoolstuff.com/images/stress-reduction-kit.jpg
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on July 15, 2011, 07:34:36 AM
New freezer delivered Thursday morning complete with two leveling feet.

Let it stand all day for the refrigerant to settle and plugged it in at 7.00pm...nothing.We've got a brand new dead freezer.
More phone calls today. :thumbsdown:

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 15, 2011, 09:38:51 AM
Hi Allan,

Not by any chance a Beko?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on July 16, 2011, 06:19:32 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 15, 2011, 09:38:51 AM
Hi Allan,

Not by any chance a Beko?

I think the wobbly one was a Beko,this one's an Amica.
The replacement for the replacement is now working.

I got really spitting blood angry with VirginMedia yesterday,still not sure what to do.

I thought there was a fault with my phone and phoned 151 which connects to Virgin.Regardless of which number I pressed in the recorded menu I still got to the same point.....in order to for them to help me I need to enter the first three letters of my password..huh.
Not only do I not have any idea what my password is after all these years of not needing one,but why a password requirement just to talk to someone.

Just another layer between customer and customer service.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 16, 2011, 11:09:30 AM
I have the same problem, especially with dimming memory. Banks etc always request I set up a password for access to various things and I have no need of them for years. Then, the one time you do need them, you're asked for the 1st,3rd and 5th letter of a password. All hell breaks loose when you can't remember them. I know in this age of rip offs etc we need passwords but heck, I would need an elephant's memory for all that goes on in my life. Grrrrr >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: m1racleman on July 16, 2011, 11:24:08 AM
It is very unfortunate that security is such an issue, but I have my own method of remembering all my passswords.
Firstly I ensure that they are the maximum length allowed and make them a combination of letters and number i.e. 87nyt92kxz874gg
Then I encrypt this and save it in a secured folder hidden amongst my files. A copy of this encrypted folder is then itself encrypted and placed inside the system folder. Finally, I delete the original folder.
Having ensured that the passwords are now totally buried within my system and completely secure, I then write them all down on a post-it and stick it on the side of my monitor where I can find them with ease   ???  ???  ???

If anyone wants to steal my identity, they are more than welcome to it !!  Maybe they can pay my gas bill for me ??
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 16, 2011, 11:32:52 AM
Strewth! Are you sure you're not James Bond, code name 00 something (can't remember the last bit) :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on July 16, 2011, 01:25:01 PM
Your Virgin password should be the same as your email password as far as I remember. When you log into the Virgin website there's a 'forgot my password' option.
I store most of my passwords in my head. I have to cycle through them at times to get the correct one. Id write one down on a piece of paper which I kept in my shirt pocket, but the missus washed it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 16, 2011, 01:39:06 PM
Quote from: poliss on July 16, 2011, 01:25:01 PM

I store most of my passwords in my head. I have to cycle through them at times to get the correct one. Id write one down on a piece of paper which I kept in my shirt pocket, but the missus washed it.

Many passwords are to prevent money laundering. You go one better by laundering the passwords :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on July 16, 2011, 02:12:00 PM
Quote from: poliss on July 16, 2011, 01:25:01 PM
Your Virgin password should be the same as your email password as far as I remember.

Sadly these days a lot them are 'letter blah of'. When they used to just ask for passwords I used to set a lot of them to accurately reflect my view of the management of the companies I was dealing with.

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on July 16, 2011, 03:19:34 PM
Quote from: poliss on July 16, 2011, 01:25:01 PM
Your Virgin password should be the same as your email password as far as I remember. When you log into the Virgin website there's a 'forgot my password' option.

I looked at that and the first requirement was my account number...back to square one.
I'll have to wait until the next notification that my phone bill is available to view and hopefully there'll be some information there I can use.

Next time I get a phone call from Virgin on one of their sales drives I'm going to ask them for their password and see how they like it. ;D

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on July 16, 2011, 03:39:54 PM
Try the Virgin help forums. They seem to be monitored by their techie staff. You don't need your virgin password to join.
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Telephone/bd-p/Telephone
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on July 16, 2011, 04:35:37 PM
Thanks Poliss,I've joined and posted the problem,at least it's somewhere to vent my frustration.

Hmm... still plenty of time left today to get angry at something ;D

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 27, 2011, 08:38:20 AM
Leyland's turn to get the plague of flying ants yesterday - grrr >:(
I've heard the next one will be frogs (no intentional flyaway remark about our friends the other side side of a tunnel that IMHO should never have been built)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: cloughie on July 27, 2011, 09:50:44 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 27, 2011, 08:38:20 AM
Leyland's turn to get the plague of flying ants yesterday - grrr >:(
I've heard the next one will be frogs (no intentional flyaway remark about our friends the other side side of a tunnel that IMHO should never have been built)

it must be cheaper to fly than go by train, or should I go in the naughty corner :wave:
cloughie
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 27, 2011, 09:53:13 AM
Quote from: cloughie on July 27, 2011, 09:50:44 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 27, 2011, 08:38:20 AM
Leyland's turn to get the plague of flying ants yesterday - grrr >:(
I've heard the next one will be frogs (no intentional flyaway remark about our friends the other side side of a tunnel that IMHO should never have been built)

it must be cheaper to fly than go by train, or should I go in the naughty corner :wave:
cloughie

No - because you are correct. Especially if you fly on the planes with the outside toilet ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: cloughie on July 27, 2011, 10:04:10 AM
newportnobby
you have flown with crab air as well
now waiting for Lawence and Irish padre to come down from 20,000 feet  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
cloughie
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 27, 2011, 11:35:23 AM
Quote from: cloughie on July 27, 2011, 10:04:10 AM
newportnobby
you have flown with crab air as well
now waiting for Lawence and Irish padre to come down from 20,000 feet  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
cloughie

Try this one. I know an even worse one about Ryanair and Hitler but the language is too fruity. Suggest you look on YouTube for 'Hitler Rant'
http://youtu.be/WPjJFv1NDBg
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 27, 2011, 11:37:47 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 27, 2011, 11:35:23 AM
Quote from: cloughie on July 27, 2011, 10:04:10 AM
newportnobby
you have flown with crab air as well
now waiting for Lawence and Irish padre to come down from 20,000 feet  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
cloughie

Try this one. I know an even worse one about Ryanair and Hitler but the language is too fruity. Suggest you look on YouTube for 'Hitler Rant'
http://youtu.be/WPjJFv1NDBg



Having diligently copied their piggin' awful links, it tells me it's not there, but I know it is. Just type in 'Yorkshire Airlines' on YouTube.Sorry.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: m1racleman on July 27, 2011, 12:25:23 PM

Having diligently copied their piggin' awful links, it tells me it's not there, but I know it is. Just type in 'Yorkshire Airlines' on YouTube.Sorry.
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:)
try this instead
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=yorkshire+airlines&aq=f    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on July 27, 2011, 01:40:08 PM
Flights, London LHR to Paris CDG £110.70 return.
Eurostar, London to Paris £69.00 return.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Adam1701D on July 27, 2011, 04:41:48 PM
I am extremely vexed at the moment. Had a really good job interview last Thursday, pretty much told the job was mine on the day, and heard nothing since then when the results should have been known by Monday.

Totally and completely fed up but at least I'm on holiday from next Monday.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 03, 2011, 07:35:47 PM
Newportnobby would like to apologise to all for the totally frivolous postings made today (3.8.11)
This is a direct result of making a 400 mile round trip using the M6/M42/M40/A34 outbound and the A34/M40/M42/M5/M6 homebound for what turned out to be a 40 minute meeting with a customer.
Despite many years tramping up and down the M6, it just seems to get more dangerous. It's unbelievable what stunts people pull, especially those on holiday who obviously are not really used to motorway driving.
My brain is just too frazzled to contemplate being serious until I have had a Bushmills or two >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lesmond on August 04, 2011, 08:03:54 PM
Well done that man - Bushmills is the nectar of the gods.

I used to travel the M6 many years ago, and it was bad enough then  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on August 04, 2011, 08:29:19 PM
Quote from: lesmond on August 04, 2011, 08:03:54 PM
Well done that man - Bushmills is the nectar of the gods.

I used to travel the M6 many years ago, and it was bad enough then  :thumbsdown:

Black Bush 'premier blend' MMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :beers:   F' the M6!!!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lesmond on August 04, 2011, 08:32:09 PM
Quote from: owl729 on August 04, 2011, 08:29:19 PM
Quote from: lesmond on August 04, 2011, 08:03:54 PM
Well done that man - Bushmills is the nectar of the gods.

I used to travel the M6 many years ago, and it was bad enough then  :thumbsdown:

Black Bush 'premier blend' MMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :beers:   F' the M6!!!!!

:beers: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 05, 2011, 08:25:36 AM
Got home yesterday evening to find my BT Broadband was down. No NGF (sob)
Rang the 0800 technical number.
Was the call centre in the UK - no.
Could I understand the lady - no.
Was she looking at a manual and clutching at straws - yes.
Said she would call me back in 2 hours. Did she - no.
I still have no internet access at home and if they haven't fixed it by tonight I will be ripping everything BT out of the house and go to another provider. Shambolic! >:( >:( >:(
This means I will have to catch up on all the posts, probably at work on Monday. Then sods law says I'll get caught, but at least we are able to use t'intenet at lunchtimes.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: m1racleman on August 05, 2011, 08:46:41 AM
I reckon you ought to change to POST OFFICE matey. I was with BT and it was hopeless, just like the call centre.
Post Office has UK call centres and is loads cheaper - £25 for phone and unlimited broadband, inclusive of line rental.
You know it makes sense even with any contract penalty that BT charges for it's horrific service.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on August 05, 2011, 09:14:17 AM
Oh no!  We've had trouble with our BT line ever since we moved here.  We were told that we might not be able to get Broadband here, but managed to get a ropey connection.  They added a new box opposite ours a couple of weeks ago, and our speed has increased to 2.5mbps according to some of the online speedcheckers.  We still have trouble getting out WiFi to work in the house. ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on August 05, 2011, 09:53:24 AM
I finally managed to get in touch with Virgin with the intention of changing to BT but decided to stop with Virgin for now.

I told the man that I was thinking of changing because BT was cheaper,he then informed me that I could keep my existing package for £7.00 a month less,when I asked why they couldn't do that automatically he said because it required a new contract....Huh.
Funny,it doesn't need a new contract to put my charges up though it seems.

So my Broadband and phone use has gone down from £34.00 to £27.00 per month.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: m1racleman on August 05, 2011, 10:00:40 AM
Quote from: Bikeracer on August 05, 2011, 09:53:24 AM
I finally managed to get in touch with Virgin with the intention of changing to BT but decided to stop with Virgin for now.

they couldn't do that automatically he said because it required a new contract....Huh.
Funny,it doesn't need a new contract to put my charges up though it seems.

So my Broadband and phone use has gone down from £34.00 to £27.00 per month.

Allan
Amazing how that works isn't it?
I wish I had the fionances to challenge those contracts because I am sure they are unenforcable in law. I don't see how a contract can allow them to make changes but not you, I believe the term is  ONEROUS in thast it gives them all the rights and the customer has none. Not even the right to complain in BT's case !!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 05, 2011, 10:15:06 AM
Quote from: m1racleman on August 05, 2011, 08:46:41 AM
I reckon you ought to change to POST OFFICE matey. I was with BT and it was hopeless, just like the call centre.
Post Office has UK call centres and is loads cheaper - £25 for phone and unlimited broadband, inclusive of line rental.
You know it makes sense even with any contract penalty that BT charges for it's horrific service.

Many thanks for this - I'll be investigating this straight away :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on August 05, 2011, 10:39:07 AM
We got a deal with Orange, free UK local & national calls 24/7 (redial after 1 hour), unlimited (up to) 8Gb broadband, line rental and a free second line that plugs in to the router which gives us up to 1000 minutes of free calls to 40 international destinations, handy as we have friends and family in Spain, Oz and the US and I can phone US based shops for nowt  ;D

Now that came in at £32 a month but then I took out an orange mobile contract, so we got £6 a month off our home package and, here is one worth checking, I got a 10% discount on my mobile contract because the company I work for is on Oranges' list of preferd corporate users, and if you can prove it (via a payslip) you get your 10%  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 05, 2011, 10:55:50 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 05, 2011, 10:15:06 AM
Quote from: m1racleman on August 05, 2011, 08:46:41 AM
I reckon you ought to change to POST OFFICE matey. I was with BT and it was hopeless, just like the call centre.
Post Office has UK call centres and is loads cheaper - £25 for phone and unlimited broadband, inclusive of line rental.
You know it makes sense even with any contract penalty that BT charges for it's horrific service.

Many thanks for this - I'll be investigating this straight away :thumbsup:

Just checked the blurb on the Post Office deal - £26.05 per month all in BUT
download speed in my area is just 1 MBps.
Maybe if I download an album from iTunes I'll just leave it ticking overnight!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on August 05, 2011, 11:07:59 AM
You'll still need to pay £10 a month for a BT phone line won't you? ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 05, 2011, 11:56:57 AM
Quote from: Tank on August 05, 2011, 11:07:59 AM
You'll still need to pay £10 a month for a BT phone line won't you? ???

Evidently not - this is inclusive of landline :) :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on August 05, 2011, 12:28:55 PM
OK, that's good then.  Sometimes that can be a hidden charge.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on August 05, 2011, 01:37:07 PM
I always wonder how these companies get away with their 'unlimited download' claim when they also have a 'fair use policy' which limits your downloads. The Post Office says they have 'fast download speeds', but it's only 8mbps. Reminds me of when 14.4kbs modems were advertised as 'fast' when 56kbs were already out.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 05, 2011, 02:13:33 PM
Quote from: poliss on August 05, 2011, 01:37:07 PM
Reminds me of when 14.4kbs modems were advertised as 'fast' when 56kbs were already out.

When I started work there weren't any calculators - I had to use a comptometer. We didn't have a fax - we had to use a telex machine.
Mind you, I was glad when I stopped having to paint myself with woad and having to drag my girlfriend round by the hair :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on August 05, 2011, 02:34:17 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 05, 2011, 02:13:33 PM
Quote from: poliss on August 05, 2011, 01:37:07 PM
Reminds me of when 14.4kbs modems were advertised as 'fast' when 56kbs were already out.

Mind you, I was glad when I stopped having to paint myself with woad and having to drag my girlfriend round by the hair :)


.... and from this experience came the well known phrase - "Oh! Woad is me!"  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on August 05, 2011, 02:37:51 PM
Talking about calculators, I found an original Sinclair calculator down the back of a sofa.  ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tadpole on August 05, 2011, 02:44:55 PM
Sorry, but this thread is NOT ANGRY ENOUGH!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

It should be re-named the occasionally mildly irritated thread.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 05, 2011, 03:01:25 PM
Quote from: tadpole on August 05, 2011, 02:44:55 PM
Sorry, but this thread is NOT ANGRY ENOUGH!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

It should be re-named the occasionally mildly irritated thread.

Now that has really brassed me off :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: m1racleman on August 05, 2011, 03:19:12 PM
Quote from: Tank on August 05, 2011, 11:07:59 AM
You'll still need to pay £10 a month for a BT phone line won't you? ???
NOPE !!!!  Phone line is inclusive with Post Office   :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

http://www2.postoffice.co.uk/broadband-phone/home-phone-broadband/home-phone-broadband-extra
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: m1racleman on August 05, 2011, 03:23:23 PM
Quote from: poliss on August 05, 2011, 01:37:07 PM
I always wonder how these companies get away with their 'unlimited download' claim when they also have a 'fair use policy' which limits your downloads. The Post Office says they have 'fast download speeds', but it's only 8mbps. Reminds me of when 14.4kbs modems were advertised as 'fast' when 56kbs were already out.
I downloaded 650gb last month and not a peep from Post Office.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: m1racleman on August 05, 2011, 03:36:14 PM
Just checked the blurb on the Post Office deal - £26.05 per month all in BUT
download speed in my area is just 1 MBps.
Maybe if I download an album from iTunes I'll just leave it ticking overnight!
[/quote]
You will get exactly the same speed as you currently get with BT. It's all the same eqipment no matter who your provider is. Excluding cable of course.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on August 05, 2011, 03:45:45 PM
Most ISPs don't tell you if you've exceeded the download limit, they just 'throttle' your connection speed.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on August 05, 2011, 07:11:27 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 05, 2011, 02:13:33 PM
to paint myself with woad and having to drag my girlfriend round by the hair :)

Ah the good old days, how I miss em  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on August 05, 2011, 07:51:27 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 05, 2011, 02:13:33 PM
When I started work there weren't any calculators - I had to use a comptometer. We didn't have a fax - we had to use a telex machine.
Mind you, I was glad when I stopped having to paint myself with woad and having to drag my girlfriend round by the hair :)
Was that one of the early woad days or  one of the ones with a white line down the middle?  I think that was a Mr Marples modifiation to make the woads safer
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on August 05, 2011, 09:03:24 PM
I am angry because I was walking my dog on our local beach 4 months ago and stood on a syringe, went for a routine visit to the doc yesterday for the results of some blood tests for different problem and they were normal, mentioned to him what happened on the beach so he phoned the Pathology people to find out if they still had any of my blood, they did so he ordered a Hepatitis B & C plus HIV test to be done, now I have to wait until next Friday for the results..

I am very angry at these morons that do not dispose of used needles properly and what is worse this happened near a kiddies playground.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: galway on August 05, 2011, 09:08:51 PM
Oldrailbug, hope that it all works out well for you.
Best wishes
Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lesmond on August 05, 2011, 09:48:53 PM
Quote from: oldrailbug on August 05, 2011, 09:03:24 PM
I am angry because I was walking my dog on our local beach 4 months ago and stood on a syringe, went for a routine visit to the doc yesterday for the results of some blood tests for different problem and they were normal, mentioned to him what happened on the beach so he phoned the Pathology people to find out if they still had any of my blood, they did so he ordered a Hepatitis B & C plus HIV test to be done, now I have to wait until next Friday for the results..

I am very angry at these morons that do not dispose of used needles properly and what is worse this happened near a kiddies playground.

A******s one and all, these daft b******s and their syringes. I really hope this works out ok for you. To do this near a playground is just disgraceful  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on August 05, 2011, 09:57:10 PM
Blimey!  :thumbsdown:  All the best to you mate.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on August 05, 2011, 10:05:44 PM
Quote from: lesmond on August 05, 2011, 09:48:53 PM
Quote from: oldrailbug on August 05, 2011, 09:03:24 PM
I am angry because I was walking my dog on our local beach 4 months ago and stood on a syringe, went for a routine visit to the doc yesterday for the results of some blood tests for different problem and they were normal, mentioned to him what happened on the beach so he phoned the Pathology people to find out if they still had any of my blood, they did so he ordered a Hepatitis B & C plus HIV test to be done, now I have to wait until next Friday for the results..

I am very angry at these morons that do not dispose of used needles properly and what is worse this happened near a kiddies playground.

A******s one and all, these daft b******s and their syringes. I really hope this works out ok for you. To do this near a playground is just disgraceful  :thumbsdown:

Im sorry to hear that Lesmond/Oldrailbug. I had the same issue when i lived in Kent. It's not good, and i hate to say it is a sign of the times in our world. Drug users are one thing, leaving exposed needles is criminal thing in its own right, I agree, absoloutely disgraceful.... :thumbsdown: upsets me.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on August 07, 2011, 04:52:36 AM
Lots of strange people around that do not care a hoot about anyone else, will be glad when friday comes so I can get the results of the blood tests.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 08, 2011, 07:52:51 AM
Good luck, Dave.
I hope all is OK :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on August 12, 2011, 01:24:30 PM
My welder has just packed up. >:(  I was making some grills to put on the window of my shed. :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Gooders on August 12, 2011, 03:24:57 PM
Quote from: oldrailbug on August 05, 2011, 09:03:24 PM
I am angry because I was walking my dog on our local beach 4 months ago and stood on a syringe, went for a routine visit to the doc yesterday for the results of some blood tests for different problem and they were normal, mentioned to him what happened on the beach so he phoned the Pathology people to find out if they still had any of my blood, they did so he ordered a Hepatitis B & C plus HIV test to be done, now I have to wait until next Friday for the results..

I am very angry at these morons that do not dispose of used needles properly and what is worse this happened near a kiddies playground.
I hope that it's good news from the medics.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 12, 2011, 03:49:59 PM
Likewise.
Dave - please let us know all is OK :wave:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lesmond on August 12, 2011, 05:39:06 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 12, 2011, 03:49:59 PM
Likewise.
Dave - please let us know all is OK :wave:

Yes, please do  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on August 12, 2011, 09:07:59 PM
Hi chaps and thanks for your concern, all is OK and I posted a reply on the Happy Thread, regardless of the results it is nice to know I have friends here so thank you once again.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 12, 2011, 09:11:19 PM
Quote from: oldrailbug on August 12, 2011, 09:07:59 PM
Hi chaps and thanks for your concern, all is OK and I posted a reply on the Happy Thread, regardless of the results it is nice to know I have friends here so thank you once again.

The pleasure is all ours. Does this mean we can be naughty every so often :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on August 12, 2011, 09:15:56 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 12, 2011, 09:11:19 PM
Quote from: oldrailbug on August 12, 2011, 09:07:59 PM
Hi chaps and thanks for your concern, all is OK and I posted a reply on the Happy Thread, regardless of the results it is nice to know I have friends here so thank you once again.

The pleasure is all ours. Does this mean we can be naughty every so often :smiley-laughing:

Ha Ha, wouldn't be much of a forum if people never got just a little naughty every now and then, besides it keeps Tank and Lawrence on their toes (http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/madhouse/hunter.gif)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on August 12, 2011, 09:17:07 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 12, 2011, 09:11:19 PM

The pleasure is all ours. Does this mean we can be naughty every so often :smiley-laughing:


That has to be a first, you asking permission  :evil:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 12, 2011, 09:21:24 PM
Quote from: oldrailbug on August 12, 2011, 09:15:56 PM

Ha Ha, wouldn't be much of a forum if people never got just a little naughty every now and then, besides it keeps Tank and Lawrence on their toes (http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/madhouse/hunter.gif)

PULL!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: findus on August 12, 2011, 09:35:13 PM
Sat in bed and need a drink, and really dont want to move! it really grinds my gears  >:( >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 12, 2011, 09:39:24 PM
Quote from: findus on August 12, 2011, 09:35:13 PM
Sat in bed and need a drink, and really dont want to move! it really grinds my gears  >:( >:(

Hey Findus - what's the trouble? Anything you want to discuss? :wave:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dock Shunter on August 12, 2011, 10:06:25 PM
Quote from: findus on August 12, 2011, 09:35:13 PM
Sat in bed and need a drink, and really dont want to move! it really grinds my gears  >:( >:(
wouldn't bother with the drink Findus.If you get one,in half an hour you will
            be sat in bed need a p@#s and really wont want to move... :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on August 13, 2011, 09:07:32 AM
Quote from: findus on August 12, 2011, 09:35:13 PM
Sat in bed and need a drink, and really dont want to move! it really grinds my gears  >:( >:(

Tell her you have a headache!  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 13, 2011, 03:57:22 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on August 12, 2011, 09:17:07 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 12, 2011, 09:11:19 PM

The pleasure is all ours. Does this mean we can be naughty every so often :smiley-laughing:


That has to be a first, you asking permission  :evil:
:smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
I've been learning at the knee of Cloughie (of which more later). It must be a Lancashire thing ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on August 13, 2011, 06:14:14 PM
Quote from: findus on August 12, 2011, 09:35:13 PM
Sat in bed and need a drink, and really dont want to move! it really grinds my gears  >:( >:(

Hope you're feeling better today Findus.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on August 15, 2011, 09:17:36 AM
Quote from: Tank on August 12, 2011, 01:24:30 PM
My welder has just packed up. >:(   :thumbsdown:
Tell her to get bak out there and get on with the work . ??? Some women are just plain lazy at times
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: cloughie on August 15, 2011, 09:41:00 AM
if tank does say that to the lass I can see his life line being very short :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
cloughie
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on August 15, 2011, 11:29:18 AM
Quote from: cloughie on August 15, 2011, 09:41:00 AM
if tank does say that to the lass I can see his life line being very short :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
cloughie
:smiley-laughing: I  know :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on August 15, 2011, 11:51:28 AM
Why is it that car insurance renewal premiums are dearer for a loyal existing customer that's not made a claim than for a new customer.

I've changed mine from Churchill to LV this year.I hadn't been allowed to drive after a hip replacement until last Friday,my car and Green Flag renewals were due on the 19th of July.
I phoned both companies and explained the situation in so much as I would not require any cover until I was allowed to drive again.

Churchill put the renewal price up from £280.00 to £306 and lost a customer.
LV did the cover for £262.00.

I phoned Green Flag up and the renewal had gone from £42.00 to £78.00 for the same cover.Not wanting to be without breakdown cover I had renewed the cover,I looked on their site this morning and that cover is available for...£42.00 for a new customer.

I phoned Green Flag up and asked for an explanation and was told there was nothing they could do,so I cancelled the cover and took it out again on their web site as a new customer saving me £36.00.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: cloughie on August 15, 2011, 12:16:42 PM
Quote from: jonclox on August 15, 2011, 11:29:18 AM
Quote from: cloughie on August 15, 2011, 09:41:00 AM
if tank does say that to the lass I can see his life line being very short :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
cloughie
:smiley-laughing: I  know :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

note to self: when on "who whats to be a millionaire" do not put jonclox`s phone number down for "ring a friend"  ::)

cloughie
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on August 15, 2011, 02:00:43 PM
Quote from: cloughie on August 15, 2011, 12:16:42 PM
Quote from: jonclox on August 15, 2011, 11:29:18 AM
Quote from: cloughie on August 15, 2011, 09:41:00 AM
if tank does say that to the lass I can see his life line being very short :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
cloughie
:smiley-laughing: I  know :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

note to self: when on "who whats to be a millionaire" do not put jonclox`s phone number down for "ring a friend"  ::)

cloughie
:smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on August 15, 2011, 06:53:00 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on August 15, 2011, 11:51:28 AM
I phoned Green Flag up and asked for an explanation and was told there was nothing they could do,so I cancelled the cover and took it out again on their web site as a new customer saving me £36.00.

Good work that man!  I love it when people beat the system.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on August 16, 2011, 03:50:03 PM
 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Just tried to make my Class 86's into a Double Header (or Consist as the manual says), and now one of them is stuck as a Consist, and I just can't get it off. >:(  The other is fine.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on August 16, 2011, 03:56:05 PM
What controller do you have?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on August 16, 2011, 04:03:19 PM
I have a Gaugemaster Prodigy Advance 2, and all of the chips are DCC23's.  Any help appreciated!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on August 16, 2011, 04:13:03 PM
August 1st....motor insurance .......£235.00  :'( :'(
Today August 16th.....road tax anual demand for 1-09-2011........£260  :'( :'(
September 15th......MOT due........£59.55 ?  :'( :'(
Life 'ard for us OAPs :'( :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on August 16, 2011, 04:18:50 PM
Tank, have you tried entering 0 into CV19?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on August 16, 2011, 04:21:23 PM
That's a lot of money Jonclox!  Start walking!  LOL

Poliss -  Yes, I have tried going into CV19, and I entered 0.  There were three dashes "---", so I did "--0" and "000" and still it won't clear the "Cons" symbol.  I can't control it at all, and it just sits there with the lights on. ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on August 16, 2011, 04:25:15 PM
Just a thought. Was it an 'advanced consist' or a 'universal consist'?
Clearing Universal (Old-Style) Consists
To clear a consist, press CONSIST until "Cons oLd cLr" flashes in the
display. Then press ENTER. Turning off the power on the base unit will not
clear the consist.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on August 16, 2011, 04:28:11 PM
Yup, I did that first, but it still won't shift it.  :(  I'm sure I've followed the instructions properly.

Thanks for your help Poliss.  Any other ideas welcome!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 16, 2011, 05:23:09 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on August 15, 2011, 11:51:28 AM
Why is it that car insurance renewal premiums are dearer for a loyal existing customer that's not made a claim than for a new customer.


Allan

Something else people forget is that when you get an 'on line' discount as a new customer, when your insurance comes up for renewal your premium goes up by that discount at least 'cos you're not a new customer anymore. I had the same thing with Saga and refused to renew until I'd negotiated that same discount again. Grrrrr
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: SymonC on August 16, 2011, 05:34:46 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 16, 2011, 05:23:09 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on August 15, 2011, 11:51:28 AM
Why is it that car insurance renewal premiums are dearer for a loyal existing customer that's not made a claim than for a new customer.


Allan

Something else people forget is that when you get an 'on line' discount as a new customer, when your insurance comes up for renewal your premium goes up by that discount at least 'cos you're not a new customer anymore. I had the same thing with Saga and refused to renew until I'd negotiated that same discount again. Grrrrr

I always look online for a cheaper quote and then phone up my current insurers and tell them so and so will insure me for £x what is the best you can offer?

Normally they'll come down to roughly the same.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on August 16, 2011, 05:35:43 PM
DCC23's? Not sure what you mean there. Is that the brand? Most decoders can be reset by entering 8 into CV8.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Crackerbill on August 16, 2011, 05:52:26 PM
DCC23 is the standard 6pin decoder supplied under the gaugemaster label.

I agree though setting 8 to CV8 should return the chip to the default values.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on August 16, 2011, 05:56:42 PM
The other DCC23 I used reset with no trouble, but this one must have frozen, as nothing I try to change works!  I've emailed Gaugemaster, so we'll see what they say.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on August 16, 2011, 06:16:01 PM
Can you read CV19?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on August 16, 2011, 06:20:14 PM
Nope. :thumbsdown:  I tried to read all of the values.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on August 16, 2011, 06:26:43 PM
Lights on and nothing else happens. Doesn't sound good. Could be a dead decoder. Three things to try.
Try putting it in a consist again. Check decoder is still fitted correctly. Swap decoders with another loco.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on August 16, 2011, 06:29:49 PM
Decoder is fitted ok, but I'll try putting it in another consist like you say.  I put another decoder in the same loco and it worked, and that decoder in another loco and there was nothing.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on August 16, 2011, 07:49:55 PM
Geez, don't you guys know how to use the chatroom or pm's? this is a thread for angry people not digging our glorious leader out of a hole  ::)








:smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on August 16, 2011, 07:58:24 PM
Did it make you angry?  ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on August 16, 2011, 08:37:55 PM
Lawrence is bitter because we have layouts.  ;) :evil:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on August 16, 2011, 09:43:02 PM
After hearing my mate tell me he chucked his DCC controller thingy across his 40ft shed I am pleased I decided to stick with DC (http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/madhouse/suicide2.gif)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on August 17, 2011, 06:50:29 AM
Bought a laser colour printer last Tuesday,ran out of black and cyan toner on Sunday.
The starter cartridges fitted are supposed to last approx 700 pages,mine lasted for 206 pages of colour and 44 pages of black before the empty light on black and cyan came on...250 pages total.

I now find that all the manufacturers estimates are based on 5% coverage, who prints photos at 5% coverage ?
Ordered four new normal cartriges,the cost was 50% more than the printer.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on August 17, 2011, 08:58:27 AM
Wow, what a con!  5%?!?! 

Quote from: oldrailbug on August 16, 2011, 09:43:02 PM
After hearing my mate tell me he chucked his DCC controller thingy across his 40ft shed I am pleased I decided to stick with DC (http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/madhouse/suicide2.gif)

DCC is great, and although I'm only just getting started with it, I love the benefits of controlling loco's in the shunting yards.  :)  It's a shame I picked up a dodgy decoder, but fingers crossed I can get it swapped over.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on August 17, 2011, 09:41:21 AM
Quote from: Tank on August 17, 2011, 08:58:27 AM
Wow, what a con!  5%?!?! 

Quote from: oldrailbug on August 16, 2011, 09:43:02 PM
After hearing my mate tell me he chucked his DCC controller thingy across his 40ft shed I am pleased I decided to stick with DC (http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/madhouse/suicide2.gif)

DCC is great, and although I'm only just getting started with it, I love the benefits of controlling loco's in the shunting yards.  :)  It's a shame I picked up a dodgy decoder, but fingers crossed I can get it swapped over.


Hi Chris, after splitting my layout in half today and deciding to make one half British and the other half American I am considering going DCC with the American Layout, at least if I get stuck with any problems I can always get help on this forum. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on August 17, 2011, 09:49:21 AM
 ;D  Go for it mate!  I wish I could afford to get more of them converted.....or even have the time to do it myself. ::) :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on August 17, 2011, 10:56:24 AM
Quote from: Lawrence on August 16, 2011, 07:49:55 PM
Geez, don't you guys know how to use the chatroom or pm's? this is a thread for angry people not digging our glorious leader out of a hole  ::)

I think this thread should be renamed "More DCC stuff".

Allan






Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 17, 2011, 09:15:38 PM
Found out this morning that last night many of the houses in our cul-de-sac had their garages burgled with the resultant loss of bikes etc.
Luckily the only things in my rear garden were potted plants and some garden furniture, and my garage is quite securely locked so nothing disappeared.
The people who do this should have raw meat attached to them and be made to walk through the lion enclosure at Chester Zoo at feeding time. >:( >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on August 17, 2011, 09:39:42 PM
Day 2 of NEBOSH course  >:(

actually probably more angry at myself for not being able to understand it  :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on August 17, 2011, 10:05:30 PM
I ordered a full set of laser toners from a place called Valueshop on Sunday,paid extra for delivery in 2-3 working days.

Third working day today and no toner has arrived by dinner time so I phone up to see if it's been dispatched,the numpty on the phone said he'd have to check with dispatch and would phone back in half an hour.

Having not received the return call two hours later,I phoned again and was told they were waiting for one of the toners to arrive.They took the money on Sunday for the toner and 2-3 day delivery and didn't even have the toner in stock.

From the background noises on the phone call it sounded like I was talking to someone at home or they let toddlers in the their office.
Anyway,I informed the numpty on the phone that he wasn't using my money to run his business and buy stuff to send to me and to cancel the order and refund the money to my bank account.

I re-ordered from Cartridgesave this afternoon and had an email confirming delivery to me tomorrow.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 17, 2011, 10:10:33 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on August 17, 2011, 10:05:30 PM

From the background noises on the phone call it sounded like I was talking to someone at home or they let toddlers in the their office.

Allan

Allan - I suspect you've hit the nail on the head, and they are employed there ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on August 26, 2011, 04:13:37 PM
Water has been off all day. I'd advise people not to stand too close to me.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 26, 2011, 10:34:26 PM
Got my new Farish TPO's (374-901) out to play tonight to find that of the 5 purchased, 3 had bits snapped off the bogies such that the wheelsets were free to roam wherever they wanted (in one case onto the floor). Hey - ho, more returns.Grrrr >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on September 02, 2011, 12:56:45 PM
Had to phone Virgin this morning to find out what  ISP service they provide,it was to answer a question in the installation of a wireless router,there was a choice of three answers in the installation and I didn't have a clue.

Went through the inevitable "press this number for" malarkey and eventually I'm put on hold.Then after a while I'm given a five choice menu as to what type of music I want to listen to while I'm on hold, but not a choice of none. >:(
So they kindly made the choice for me. I don't want music banging in my ear while I'm on hold.

When I finally got through to a person and it was hard work getting the information from him,but eventually after asking me my phone number and name and some delay he informed me the connection is "Dynamic".
Why couldn't he just tell me to start with.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on September 02, 2011, 02:26:57 PM
This does not always work but it is worth trying when you get to the "press this number for" malarkey part.
Press the hash key then zero key one after the other, on some systems it sends it haywire and you are put through to human(ish) person quicker than normal  :evil:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on September 06, 2011, 11:12:15 AM
I`m fuming :(
for the last couple of weeks Ive been searching for some 'decline' pillers......all anybody does is 'incline' one for going up hill  :-\
When are manufactures going to start catering or customers who need to build down to ground level from an upper level ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on September 06, 2011, 11:14:06 AM
Quote from: jonclox on September 06, 2011, 11:12:15 AM
for the last couple of weeks Ive been searching for some 'decine' pillers......

Try typing 'decline' instead!   :smiley-laughing:  No, it's annoying when you can't find what you need.  Can you not try and make your own, or do you prefer to buy them already made?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: findus on September 06, 2011, 12:30:52 PM
Get home to find i have no hot water, and cant program the immersion time to get it going  :thumbsdown: anybody anygood with immersions timers??
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on September 06, 2011, 03:28:44 PM
At least you have water. Ours has gone off six times in the last two weeks without notice!
Try googling instructions for the make and model of your immersion heater.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 06, 2011, 05:33:43 PM
Quote from: poliss on September 06, 2011, 03:28:44 PM
At least you have water. Ours has gone off six times in the last two weeks without notice!

That's scary, Poliss. What utility company are you with, and have they explained why? :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on September 06, 2011, 05:47:26 PM
It's not the water company, they only have responsibility to the outside of the block. It's the pump in the block that sends the water to the roof. Seems there's something wrong with the 'timer unit'. Why it needs a timer unit I have no idea.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 06, 2011, 05:53:14 PM
Quote from: poliss on September 06, 2011, 05:47:26 PM
It's not the water company, they only have responsibility to the outside of the block. It's the pump in the block that sends the water to the roof. Seems there's something wrong with the 'timer unit'. Why it needs a timer unit I have no idea.

Maybe someone else can shed some light on this 'cos it sure beats me ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on September 09, 2011, 11:09:47 AM
I have been trying to find out where to get my Night Vision Goggles fixed and have had no luck so far. >:(  I managed to find the company that I bought them from, but they don't seem to be in business (despite having a very outdated website still on here).  I have emailed about 10 websites that repair them, and none will do mine because they are Russian. :thumbsdown:  I have however found the company that actually makes them and messaged them today.  Fingers crossed, although it'll be expensive. :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on September 09, 2011, 12:17:54 PM
Crikey we used to get those Russian night vision thingys over here in Oz a few years back, I forgot they even existed, sold quite a few when I worked part time in a Pawnbrokers shop, hope you can get them fixed Chris.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 09, 2011, 12:35:49 PM
Quote from: Tank on September 09, 2011, 11:09:47 AM
I have been trying to find out where to get my Night Vision Goggles fixed and have had no luck so far. >:(  I managed to find the company that I bought them from, but they don't seem to be in business (despite having a very outdated website still on here).  I have emailed about 10 websites that repair them, and none will do mine because they are Russian. :thumbsdown:  I have however found the company that actually makes them and messaged them today.  Fingers crossed, although it'll be expensive. :'(

Would it not be cheaper to fit light bulbs to your house? ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mrjamestrain on September 09, 2011, 05:00:45 PM
my train was late by 27 minutes , my old form tutor didn't really care but my new "cool" one doe's so  after a heated talk from me three day's in  i'm now moving form's
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on September 09, 2011, 09:13:50 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on September 09, 2011, 12:35:49 PM
Would it not be cheaper to fit light bulbs to your house? ;D

:smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on September 11, 2011, 04:10:03 PM
Quote from: Tank on September 09, 2011, 11:09:47 AM
I have been trying to find out where to get my Night Vision Goggles fixed and have had no luck so far. >:(  I managed to find the company that I bought them from, but they don't seem to be in business (despite having a very outdated website still on here).  I have emailed about 10 websites that repair them, and none will do mine because they are Russian. :thumbsdown:  I have however found the company that actually makes them and messaged them today.  Fingers crossed, although it'll be expensive. :'(
These.......  http://www.thecandleselection.co.uk/prices-candles-bag-50-sentinel-nightlights-8-hour-tealights.html
  might be cheaper than getting yours repaired    :music:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on September 11, 2011, 04:47:12 PM
Thanks......   ::) ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on September 17, 2011, 11:01:34 AM
The week so far----


Tuesday-------washing machine goes terminal after only 10 years  >:(
Wednesday------cant find a local replacement before next week.
Thursday----trip switch blows across main supply....reason never found  >:( stereo speaked front becmes 'unglued' and fall to the floor right behind me  :'(
Friday--------evening meal time find that the trip switch goung was the cooker boven blowing main oven element and wiping out the grill  ::)
Ok............ its insured but no repair call available till Tuesday next week. ::)
Someone cancel the rest of the week perleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: elmo on September 17, 2011, 12:15:42 PM
Come on Jonclox, Monday didnt look too bad :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on September 17, 2011, 02:54:46 PM
How dashed odd. You haven't got Gizmo the Mogwai have you and if so, did you give him a bath?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on September 18, 2011, 05:27:46 PM
A week ago I put my layout by the window in the loft whilst I put the brackets up for the new layout.  Today I went in the loft to have a look, and the layout is on the floor.   >:( >:( >:(  Half of my army vehicles are damaged, and some other rolling stock. :'( :'( :'(  Also, smashed the AWS boxes off and some ballasting on the edge of the layout. :thumbsdown:  I suspect the squirrels snuck in through the open window. :computerangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on September 18, 2011, 07:22:39 PM
Quote from: Tank on September 18, 2011, 05:27:46 PM
I suspect the squirrels snuck in through the open window. :computerangry:

They make good eating.. its payback time 8)


I'm merely mildly grumpy. Yesterday I turned on the TV to observe a man painted blue and in a smurf hat proceed to demonstrate on TV he can tell 450 odd smurf collectables by their silhouette.  That in itself was mildly alarming - discovering there are worse things than bus nuts, but on the BBC - they spent our taxes painting a nutter blue and letting him make an exhibiton of himself ?????

Alan


Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 18, 2011, 07:36:38 PM
So sorry to hear about your layout, Chris. Those squirrels may be cute but they're a pigging nuisance. Hope all is repaired soon :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on September 18, 2011, 07:53:37 PM
Cheers mate.  I can't even bring myself to look!   :'(  If I see a squirrel though, it better run...... :evil:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on September 18, 2011, 08:39:21 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on September 18, 2011, 07:22:39 PM


I'm merely mildly grumpy. Yesterday I turned on the TV to observe a man painted blue and in a smurf hat proceed to demonstrate on TV he can tell 450 odd smurf collectables by their silhouette.  That in itself was mildly alarming - discovering there are worse things than bus nuts, but on the BBC - they spent our taxes painting a nutter blue and letting him make an exhibiton of himself ?????

Alan


IMHO the BBC license fee should be on a percentage system.

If they're going to show for example 15% of broadcasts as repeats,the license fee should be 15% less.

Also they should rename the sports part of the news "Football Managers Chat" because I'm sick of seeing and hearing football managers having a daily inquest on their teams poor performance.
In fact,sports news seems to be mainly about football anyway.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on September 18, 2011, 08:50:13 PM
Quote from: Tank on September 18, 2011, 05:27:46 PM
A week ago I put my layout by the window in the loft whilst I put the brackets up for the new layout.  Today I went in the loft to have a look, and the layout is on the floor.   >:( >:( >:(  Half of my army vehicles are damaged, and some other rolling stock. :'( :'( :'(  Also, smashed the AWS boxes off and some ballasting on the edge of the layout. :thumbsdown:  I suspect the squirrels snuck in through the open window. :computerangry:

Sorry to hear the little critters have been having fun on your layout Chris :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: elmo on September 18, 2011, 08:51:17 PM
AND ANOTHER THING - why do the television licence people keep harassing me and threatening court action. Which bit of "I have not got a TV" dont they understand????????
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on September 18, 2011, 08:57:12 PM
Here in Oz we have critters that eat your model railway, number one is the Gheko Lizards that have been eating my trees, number two is the Cockroaches that eat any card kits, I think its the glue they enjoy.

The Gheko's are worst because they poo on your tracks and look like Godzilla as they tramp around the layout, this is because the layout is in an outside shed.

I do lay Cockroach baits to kill the roaches but the lizards live above the ceiling as I can hear then scurrying around while working on the layout, to hard to catch and kill.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on September 18, 2011, 08:58:16 PM
You have a computer with a broadband connection? If so you need a tv licence.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: findus on September 18, 2011, 08:59:26 PM
Quote from: elmo on September 18, 2011, 08:51:17 PM
AND ANOTHER THING - why do the television licence people keep harassing me and threatening court action. Which bit of "I have not got a TV" dont they understand????????

see this link!!

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check/viewtopiccontent.aspx?id=TOP12&iqdocumentid=TOP12&WT.mc_id=r001
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: findus on September 18, 2011, 09:00:35 PM
Quote from: poliss on September 18, 2011, 08:58:16 PM
You have a computer with a broadband connection? If so you need a tv licence.

not true! only if your watching a live broadcast! if you watch anything after its been broadcast your ok! see my link
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: elmo on September 18, 2011, 09:07:27 PM
The bit that gets right up my nose is that the letters were addressed to me. I tell them (again) that I have no TV and they send the letters addressed to 'the current occupier'. Tell them yet again and the same letters are sent 'to the legal occupier'. Roll on the threatened court summons, go on TV make my day.
Elmo
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on September 18, 2011, 09:22:34 PM
TV Licensing's policy process for dealing with No Licence Needed claims is
outlined at Appendix 3.
Appendix 3. The BBC considers the information in the policy appendices to be confidential.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dock Shunter on September 18, 2011, 09:47:39 PM
Quote from: elmo on September 18, 2011, 09:07:27 PM
The bit that gets right up my nose is that the letters were addressed to me. I tell them (again) that I have no TV and they send the letters addressed to 'the current occupier'. Tell them yet again and the same letters are sent 'to the legal occupier'. Roll on the threatened court summons, go on TV make my day.
Elmo
Elmo i don't have a TV either......tv is  :sleep:  :sleep:....I had the same problem that you have.... getting threatening letters all the while....what you need to do is put it in writing that you have no tv that you have no intention of getting a tv and that you are quite prepared for an inspector to visit you to confirm you do not have a tv.They will contact you to confirm they have received your notification and that an inspector will call at some point..(though knowone ever came to see me.They will then contact you after 2 years to confirm the information they have is still correct.I haven't had a tv or bought a tv licence in 7 years...and never will again.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on September 18, 2011, 11:05:09 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on September 18, 2011, 08:39:21 PM
Also they should rename the sports part of the news "Football Managers Chat" because I'm sick of seeing and hearing football managers having a daily inquest on their teams poor performance.
In fact,sports news seems to be mainly about football anyway.

Allan

Move to Wales then, then its mostly about Rugby and we actually get a lot of the matches on free to air TV. My Dad was quite put out at the lack of football coverage. Surprised me as he's a West Brom fan so I would have thought the less coverage the better ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on September 19, 2011, 12:05:14 AM
I get the Welsh rugby on freeview but no commentary, just those two yakking in the alternative audio stream!  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 19, 2011, 03:11:07 AM
Quote from: oldrailbug on September 18, 2011, 08:57:12 PM
Here in Oz we have critters that eat your model railway, number one is the Gheko Lizards that have been eating my trees, number two is the Cockroaches that eat any card kits, I think its the glue they enjoy.
The Gheko's are worst because they poo on your tracks and look like Godzilla as they tramp around the layout, this is because the layout is in an outside shed.
I do lay Cockroach baits to kill the roaches but the lizards live above the ceiling as I can hear then scurrying around while working on the layout, to hard to catch and kill.

Shame you can't train the Geckos to eat Cockroaches, but then again roaches are almost indestructible. I'll probably have nightmares now about roaches on glue :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sithlord75 on September 19, 2011, 03:41:36 AM
Quote from: oldrailbug on September 18, 2011, 08:57:12 PM
Here in Oz we have critters that eat your model railway, number one is the Gheko Lizards that have been eating my trees, number two is the Cockroaches that eat any card kits, I think its the glue they enjoy.

The Gheko's are worst because they poo on your tracks and look like Godzilla as they tramp around the layout, this is because the layout is in an outside shed.

I do lay Cockroach baits to kill the roaches but the lizards live above the ceiling as I can hear then scurrying around while working on the layout, to hard to catch and kill.

I have a cat which is pretty handy on the gheckos - just a bit worse on the layout  :evil:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on September 19, 2011, 03:51:18 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on September 19, 2011, 03:11:07 AM
Quote from: oldrailbug on September 18, 2011, 08:57:12 PM
Here in Oz we have critters that eat your model railway, number one is the Gheko Lizards that have been eating my trees, number two is the Cockroaches that eat any card kits, I think its the glue they enjoy.
The Gheko's are worst because they poo on your tracks and look like Godzilla as they tramp around the layout, this is because the layout is in an outside shed.
I do lay Cockroach baits to kill the roaches but the lizards live above the ceiling as I can hear then scurrying around while working on the layout, to hard to catch and kill.

Shame you can't train the Geckos to eat Cockroaches, but then again roaches are almost indestructible. I'll probably have nightmares now about roaches on glue :o

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on September 19, 2011, 02:50:30 PM
Quote from: elmo on September 18, 2011, 09:07:27 PM
The bit that gets right up my nose is that the letters were addressed to me. I tell them (again) that I have no TV and they send the letters addressed to 'the current occupier'. Tell them yet again and the same letters are sent 'to the legal occupier'. Roll on the threatened court summons, go on TV make my day.
Elmo

When I was a student we used to bait them (things like using a different version of names/addresses when renewing) quite deliberately as they were so unpleasant and obnoxious that they seemed like good sport. The highlight was the day they came to see one student and the conversation went

"I'm from TV licensing"
"I don't have a TV"
"So why didn't you reply to our letter"
"I don't reply to rude mail"

Priceless.. they'd sent some muppet all the way around Aberystwyth simply because they wouldn't send polite letters.

A good place to send their rude an inaccurate demands is their data protection officer, with a small note reminding him of his/her legal duty to keep data correct and up to date. In their own freepost envelopes of course, with FAO Data Protection Officer, written in pen on the top 8)

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on September 19, 2011, 02:54:02 PM
Quote from: poliss on September 19, 2011, 12:05:14 AM
I get the Welsh rugby on freeview but no commentary, just those two yakking in the alternative audio stream!  >:(

The red button should also get you welsh language commentary which is much better than the yacking, even if you don't speak a word of it. Although I now speak a bit it's still the case that my rugby Welsh is better than most other bits ;)

Also check for radio commentary to match. Many of the games have a suitable matching local radio commentary and some, particularly the Irish ones are wonderfully biased and excitable...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on September 19, 2011, 03:01:41 PM
Tried the red button. The match commentary isn't on it. Not sure if it's all in Welsh as you do get a snippet of interviews at half time. I think they only do it to annoy.  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on September 21, 2011, 04:22:56 PM
I thought it was a good idea to save into a pension for my retirement,now I wish I'd never bothered.

If you don't have any savings much or any extra pension when you retire you can claim council tax relief,basically no tax to pay.
If you've saved in a private pension,when you get it you're penalised because you've got some income and cannot get much, if any, council tax rebate.
So basically my small pension that I paid into for years is just going to pay my council tax and I'm not really any better off.

Just wish I'd never bothered.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on September 21, 2011, 04:31:40 PM
Yep. I know what you mean. I have pensions that are actually worth less than if i'd stuffed the money under my mattress. Over the years the pension funds have taken my money and made big fees and bonuses off it and left me worse off. I think that is a good definition of organized crime!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on September 21, 2011, 04:32:53 PM
My suspicions on this matter were first aroused in the early 1970s when they scrapped the graduated pension scheme.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Crackerbill on September 21, 2011, 04:58:42 PM
I think it was later than the early 70s for scrapping of Graduated Pension Scheme (a very poor system) - I'm pretty sure Margaret Thatcher was on the throne.  The Tories of the day did bring in SERPS which was a much fairer pension system if more expensive.  Of course anyone with private pension arrangements could "pension out".

The Labour party did not like the SERPS as they didn't think of it, so at the earliest opertunity they scrapped it but kept the NI contributions the same as before, effectively increasing all NI contributions by some 25%.  They tried a very wishy washy system called Stakeholders Pension Scheme which was not compulsory, it really has died a death as NI payers would have to make more contributions !!

The current lot are in the process of suggesting another system!!  I'm sure it will increase the cost to NI payers.

A jaundiced view from a pensioner of some years - If I havn't got all the facts right then blame my age.  There are lots of other ways successive governments(or non-governments) have screwed pensioners over the past years but they are for another angry thread topic.   
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on September 21, 2011, 05:13:15 PM
Replaced by SERPS in April 1975, but I'm sure they mentioned it was being scrapped a year earlier. I have no idea of what's happened to the contributions I made into the scheme.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Crackerbill on September 21, 2011, 05:34:36 PM
Just looked it up on Wikipedia - Serps was from April 6th 1978 to April 5th 2002.

As far as your previous contributions are cocerned you will receive the accumulated weekly pension on retirement. Don't spend it all at once!!!

Wikipedia has lots of info on Serps, so you may be able to work out "how much" for your circumstances.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on September 21, 2011, 07:09:13 PM
Quote from: Crackerbill on September 21, 2011, 05:34:36 PM

As far as your previous contributions are cocerned you will receive the accumulated weekly pension on retirement. Don't spend it all at once!!!

IIRC the last pension increase left the Serps part out,in other words another way to screw anybody on a pension that paid into serps.

All the civil servant/local authority type people moaning about their gold plated pension changes don't realise what a good deal they've got IMO.
Anyone that has a private pension doesn't have any chance of saving enough to get a pension like they've got.
I might be wrong,but I believe a good proportion of the council tax goes to paying for the pension pot available to council employees.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on September 28, 2011, 10:25:52 AM
I've just received a questionaire about my recent hospital stay for a hip replacement.Just boxes to tick.

So I go through it ticking boxes and get ready to put it in the pre paid envelope.
Then I realised that there is no signature required,or any reference to the hospital or operation.So they won't know who it's from or what hospital it refers to.It's now in the recycle bin.

What is the point of sending a form out which is totally anonymous about the information required apart from providing a job for someone to collate the information.

What a waste of resources.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on September 28, 2011, 11:07:48 AM
Oi, being ex-local government I retired on a tin plated pension - the gold plated ones are for chief officers and civil service mandarins. LA pensioners have had to pay for their pensions too. I now live in a street where I own my house (almost), and pay tax on a small pension to support my workshy neighbours who have lived on benefits all their lives. And they laugh at me for not doing what they did.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on October 01, 2011, 04:52:00 PM
People who spell 'does' 'd o s e'. Dose is the measure of medicine you should take.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RichardBattersby on October 04, 2011, 03:11:20 PM
I'd just like to share with you all that I'm having a bad day.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on October 04, 2011, 03:16:14 PM
Quote from: RichardBattersby on October 04, 2011, 03:11:20 PM
I'd just like to share with you all that I'm having a bad day.

Sorry to hear that Richard, may I suggest you go to the joe section and read some of the jokes there they should give you a laugh at least  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: fisherman on October 04, 2011, 04:06:55 PM
is anyone else totally p*****d off with all the American and Japanese stuff on e Bay????

there is just too much of it!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on October 04, 2011, 04:13:16 PM
Nope. I collect US N scale. It's not as if it pushes out British outline models.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: cloughie on October 04, 2011, 04:19:20 PM
I agree with fisherman :thumbsup:    there is to much stuff on e-bay ???


cloughie
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on October 04, 2011, 04:23:33 PM
You mean too much temptation cloughie? :-)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: cloughie on October 04, 2011, 04:38:44 PM
temptation to me would be some one selling a full barrel of castle eden for a fiver :D
it would cheer up Mr. Battersby anyway

cloughie
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 04, 2011, 06:44:41 PM
Quote from: cloughie on October 04, 2011, 04:38:44 PM
temptation to me would be some one selling a full barrel of castle eden for a fiver :D
it would cheer up Mr. Battersby anyway

cloughie

Castle Eden - I haven't supped that in years. Lovely ale :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 04, 2011, 06:48:43 PM
Quote from: RichardBattersby on October 04, 2011, 03:11:20 PM
I'd just like to share with you all that I'm having a bad day.

Sorry to hear that, Richard - anything particular or just a general blues day.
(Why is it that when we're down we play sad music, or is that just me?)
I've been having a bad few weeks as I'm having to try and make a double figure price increase stick with my customers :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on October 04, 2011, 06:53:31 PM
I had a good day.




I think it was in 1979.  ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 04, 2011, 07:00:32 PM
Quote from: poliss on October 04, 2011, 06:53:31 PM
I had a good day.




I think it was in 1979.  ::)

Nice one, Poliss ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RichardBattersby on October 04, 2011, 07:18:13 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on October 04, 2011, 03:16:14 PM
Quote from: RichardBattersby on October 04, 2011, 03:11:20 PM
I'd just like to share with you all that I'm having a bad day.

Sorry to hear that Richard, may I suggest you go to the joe section and read some of the jokes there they should give you a laugh at least  :thumbsup:

I made my first tentative steps into he joke section... and I feel revived but also peckish. Not sure how that works. :P I particularly liked the bulldog clip as the beer bookstop type thing. Very good.  :beers:

Cloughie: that certainly would cheer me up, and maybe push me the other way! Will put it on my list of ales to try!  :beers:

Newportnobby: nothing interesting but, yes, something in particular. I'm a final year vet student and I'd say I was more practical than academic and I love surgery. I'm currently seeing practice in York (nice place, nice people, been here before) and I've not done any small animal stuff in months. I'm clearly not as good as I was a couple of months ago and that's really frustrating. I can see the vet thinking "he hasn't improved, he's supposed to be good at surger" and he didn't like the sutures I did today. I know, it's nothing really and I'm being too hard on myself but it's been a week and a half now and I feel a bit like a failure. Just one of those days when you let things get on top of you. Oh, and I ate a load of off coleslaw (by 5 days). It took me a good few mouthfuls to realise that it was 'fizzing' in my mouth. Hoping to keep it down though!  :smiley-laughing:

Poliss: I wasn't born in 1979! Sad to have missed your good day.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: galway on October 04, 2011, 07:29:10 PM

Poliss: I wasn't born in 1979! Sad to have missed your good day.
[/quote]

Nice one  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on October 04, 2011, 07:32:03 PM
Quote from: fisherman on October 04, 2011, 04:06:55 PM
is anyone else totally p*****d off with all the American and Japanese stuff on e Bay????

there is just too much of it!!!

Unfortunately I cant get any bargains on the Japanese stuff, it all seems to go for crazy prices  :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on October 04, 2011, 08:45:47 PM
It stands to reason that there is going to be more American and Japanese models on eBay, the Japanese population is nearly 128 Million and America has 310 Million people so there is going to be one heck of a lot more model railway modellers than the UK with 61 Million residents.

Combined Population of Japan and USA is 438 Million

UK Population 61 Miilion

Feel sorry for the Aussies looking for second hand model railway stuff on eBay, hardly any at all.

Population of Oz 22 Million.

As a side thing a mate that owns a model railway shop in Brisbane Oz calculated that there were probably less than 300 model railway fans that belonged to clubs in that city, no wonder the stuff is scarce.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: R M Williams on October 04, 2011, 09:19:12 PM
But I thought that all 61m in UK do railway modelling!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RichardBattersby on October 04, 2011, 09:52:59 PM
Quote from: R M Williams on October 04, 2011, 09:19:12 PM
But I thought that all 61m in UK do railway modelling!!

I'll second that!  :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on October 04, 2011, 10:32:31 PM
They do, but only 2% admit to it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: 4x2 on October 04, 2011, 10:42:58 PM
The only thing that brasses me off is... DEL PRADO !!! >:( >:( >:(

Somebody, please for the love of god (i'm not religous by the way...) ban this plastic tripe asap ! How dare they call it N gauge, when you can't even put it on a track without creating a short  ??? ??? ???

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on October 05, 2011, 09:04:18 PM
I have an Acer laptop that won't connect to the internet so I have taken everything off that I want to keep onto an external HD.
Retrieved the backup cd's from my desk where they have been safely stored after having been pestered by said laptop to do a backup after I bought it.

The "insert very strong expletive" thing will not recognise the cd's as having a backup on them and now that I am seething with Celtic fury (I feel like painting myself blue) I don't know what to do as I am so furious I am not thinking sanely.  ???  >:(

Tomorrow will be a nice day - I am sure  ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on October 05, 2011, 09:25:26 PM
The very reason I made the switch to a Linux OS three years ago, oh so easy, turn printer and modem on insert Linux OS disc and it will find everything itself, no having to find, download or load drivers.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on October 07, 2011, 08:18:48 PM
After many years of Microsoft I finally gave up and, needing a new laptop, plumped for a Mac. Very expensive but I do save a bit each year on not buying anti-virus, and it doesn't keep slowing down for updates.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on October 07, 2011, 08:27:27 PM
Macs are not immune to viruses. http://www.cardiff.ac.uk/insrv/it/antivirus/applemac.html
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on October 07, 2011, 09:20:42 PM
'Kibri'  >:(
Anybody else think its building kits are wayyyyyyyyy off scale?  :(
I seem to have to cut everything down to make it look more realistic
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 11, 2011, 11:58:34 PM
Quote from: jonclox on October 07, 2011, 09:20:42 PM
'Kibri'  >:(
Anybody else think its building kits are wayyyyyyyyy off scale?  :(
I seem to have to cut everything down to make it look more realistic

I'm not convinced they are wrong - a lot of European buildings seem to be a bit bigger than our shoeboxes, especially these days.

You could I guess use the Z scale ones ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on October 12, 2011, 03:14:33 PM
I have two Canon inkjet printers which were really good the last time I used them,probably about two years ago,but when I had to have a new PC I never bothered to install them on it.

Wanting to print card models out and not wanting the chance that the ink might run with an inkjet I decided to buy a Canon LBP 5050 laser colour printer rather than install one of my inkjets and find the nozzles blocked up.

The annoying thing is that each time I switch it on to print just one page it goes into a three minutes long recalibration and colour correction routine after it's printed this one page,this whirring and whining is really annoying each time I use the printer.
Even though it hasn't been used since it's last recalibration when I switch it on it still prints my one page and then recalibrates again.
I've recently put four new toner cartridges in,but when they run out I'll bin this printer and buy a different make.

I wonder why all the reviews I looked at never mentioned annoying feature.

Anyway onto the angry part, I contacted Canon and basically said I was not happy with this laser printer constantly recalibrating.....the reply went into great length to explain about what happens with their INKJET printers.


Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on October 12, 2011, 03:25:46 PM
Quote from: poliss on October 07, 2011, 08:27:27 PM
Macs are not immune to viruses. http://www.cardiff.ac.uk/insrv/it/antivirus/applemac.html

They're not immune to social attacks and trojans (both of which are based on the user specifically allowing the malicious code access) or specific direct hacks but there's no such thing as an actual OS X virus in the wild. There are java and flash virii that can help gain access for a Mac hack, so it's always a good plan to make sure you're up to date and don't disable anything on the firewall you shouldn't but generally Mac virus checkers are a waste of space and do more harm than good.

You're better off being careful and not opening attachments without being certain who they're from and what they are (critical on any OS), disable Flash or use a plugin like ClickToFlash to make sure Flash based components don't trigger automatically (which cuts out most of the crappy ads too ;) ) and disable Java unless you actually need it for something.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 13, 2011, 04:26:02 PM
Quote from: Zwilnik on October 12, 2011, 03:25:46 PM
You're better off being careful and not opening attachments without being certain who they're from and what they are (critical on any OS), disable Flash or use a plugin like ClickToFlash to make sure Flash based components don't trigger automatically (which cuts out most of the crappy ads too ;) ) and disable Java unless you actually need it for something.

This really says it all for the current state of play in the Windows world, and I expect similar patterns for other things

http://www.net-security.org/malware_news.php?id=1863

Note that Adobe is a whopping 48% of this thanks to Reader/Acrobat/Flash bugs - and Flash is not the worst of them.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 13, 2011, 04:29:56 PM

More camera blocking scum, this time they really should be ashamed of themselves.

I trundled into our local Tesco to find that yet again they had raw meat, cooked meat and other products all lumped together in the one 'bargains' block. This is despite pointing out to senior staff that it's unsafe.

So I thought I'd collect the evidence for Tesco HQ, but oh no Mr security man would rather not have the evidence on record and proceeded to block my camera lens with a packet of grapes even though I was clearly only taking a photo of the evidence. More disturbingly the staff member nearby didn't even *understand* why it was a problem. Do they not train their people in basic food safety ?

Anyway he's peeved me sufficiently to make a formal complaint to the council food safety people, and I'm going to be keeping a close eye on it and phoning them if I see another one so they can dash in and fine the scumbags.

Trouble is from what I've seen - this isn't the only Tesco (or indeed supermarket) whose staff are doing this.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on October 14, 2011, 10:30:49 AM
I used to work for Morrisons, and staff are trained, but after a few weeks they just don't care!  You are allowed raw and cooked in the same area, but cooked meats must be on the shelf above by law.  A common problem that we had was that customers would empty the shelves to find what they wanted and it all ended up on the bottom shelf with the raw meats!  Still, I'm sure some stores just put out the reduced items in any fashion like you say.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on October 14, 2011, 10:49:32 AM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on October 11, 2011, 11:58:34 PM
Quote from: jonclox on October 07, 2011, 09:20:42 PM
'Kibri'  >:(
Anybody else think its building kits are wayyyyyyyyy off scale?  :(
I seem to have to cut everything down to make it look more realistic

I'm not convinced they are wrong - a lot of European buildings seem to be a bit bigger than our shoeboxes, especially these days.

You could I guess use the Z scale ones ?

:-[ :-[ Thanks for your answer It is infact Z scale model buildings that with  I am finding 'overscale' as I mess about with things in that scale.  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 14, 2011, 03:25:02 PM
Quote from: Tank on October 14, 2011, 10:30:49 AM
Still, I'm sure some stores just put out the reduced items in any fashion like you say.

Well hopefully this one will now stop. Seems a nice man from the council went to see them today 8)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on October 14, 2011, 05:45:40 PM
Just got back from the chemist to pick up a prescription. The young woman serving was chewing gum and another worker was drinking from a bottle of water in the area where prescriptions are dispensed.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 14, 2011, 06:41:11 PM
My mum has been informed by her insurance company that any enquiry about making a claim will be actually registered as a claim even if she then confirms she will not proceed with making a claim. Money grabbing bu**ers or what :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 14, 2011, 09:19:30 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 14, 2011, 06:41:11 PM
My mum has been informed by her insurance company that any enquiry about making a claim will be actually registered as a claim even if she then confirms she will not proceed with making a claim. Money grabbing bu**ers or what :o

So enquire about enquiring to make a claim and see
http://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/


Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sithlord75 on October 15, 2011, 04:27:25 AM
Gee I hate eBayers who won't ship international - even when you PM them.  One bloke reckons it is because the postage is too high - but he doesn't pay it, I do.  As it happens, I would have won the auction (well I assume - what I was willing to pay was almost twice what the item went for) so silly git missed out both ways - and I sent him a message to tell him that too.

So does anyone have a Bachmann 65' Combine sitting around which they are happy to send to Australia?  The 3 I found on eBay USA won't send them down here, and I got the only one I could find on eBay Australia.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on October 15, 2011, 08:40:51 AM
Hi,

Next time you need something like that I'd be happy to get it for you and send it on for what it costs and total postage.
Just PM me the details.

Regards,Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on October 15, 2011, 08:49:29 PM
Quote from: Sithlord75 on October 15, 2011, 04:27:25 AM
Gee I hate eBayers who won't ship international - even when you PM them.  One bloke reckons it is because the postage is too high - but he doesn't pay it, I do.  As it happens, I would have won the auction (well I assume - what I was willing to pay was almost twice what the item went for) so silly git missed out both ways - and I sent him a message to tell him that too.

So does anyone have a Bachmann 65' Combine sitting around which they are happy to send to Australia?  The 3 I found on eBay USA won't send them down here, and I got the only one I could find on eBay Australia.

My Mates second hand shop in Brizzy has 2 x SantaFe 65ft combines but from memory they are Lima or ConCor, $10 each.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dock Shunter on October 25, 2011, 08:55:28 PM
Hello Fella's...........

I'm quite an easy going bloke.....try not to let things get to me too much,but tonight i am seriously
p@#$$d off.
Had my 121s on pre order at Hattons and yesterday had an email to say they were in stock and would be shipped that afternoon.
I had chosen next day AM delivery and was informed they would be delivered next day before 12 noon by Yodel.
Anyway i was up bright and early this morning 12 noon came and went....got to about 4.30 still no parcel
so i called yodel to ask where it was....."it's on the van and will be delivered today".(what happened to the AM delivery i paid for)?.....
5.30 no parcel so i go online to track the status of the parcel and there is a message saying 17.05 no answer......left a card.
Now i have literally sat by the front door all day waiting..my dog barks when anyone walks past the house and goes mad when anyone knocks...my brother and sister in law where here when he was supposed to have tried to deliver the parcel......no one has knocked and no card has been left.I call Yodel to tell them my parcel has not been delivered and they ask me for the ref no.....what ref no i ask......the ref no on the card the driver left..... ??? ??? ???
To be honest the fact that i haven't got my 121s is not why i am angry...it's the fact that this driver has barefaced lied by saying he knocked and got no answer...i cant stand liars... >:( >:( >:(
But he knows that in the end it would be my word against his and that really p@##es me off.....
Has anyone else had any bad experiences with this joke of a courier company...?
Anyway sorry to go on a bit but i needed to get it off my chest........
OH and it's going to be Thursday before i get my 121s
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on October 25, 2011, 09:04:25 PM
Sorry to hear that!  Funnily enough we had trouble with Yodel at my work yesterday.  The driver had arrived after the gates were closed, so rather than take the delivery back to the depot he climbed the 5ft gate, walked the 50 metres up the drive to the delivery room door, and left the parcel outside.  Well it rained hard last night, and the text books inside the box are soaking and ruined!!!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: 4x2 on October 25, 2011, 09:07:01 PM
Quote from: Dock Shunter on October 25, 2011, 08:55:28 PM
Hello Fella's...........

I'm quite an easy going bloke.....try not to let things get to me too much,but tonight i am seriously
p@#$$d off.
Had my 121s on pre order at Hattons and yesterday had an email to say they were in stock and would be shipped that afternoon.
I had chosen next day AM delivery and was informed they would be delivered next day before 12 noon by Yodel.
Anyway i was up bright and early this morning 12 noon came and went....got to about 4.30 still no parcel
so i called yodel to ask where it was....."it's on the van and will be delivered today".(what happened to the AM delivery i paid for)?.....
5.30 no parcel so i go online to track the status of the parcel and there is a message saying 17.05 no answer......left a card.
Now i have literally sat by the front door all day waiting..my dog barks when anyone walks past the house and goes mad when anyone knocks...my brother and sister in law where here when he was supposed to have tried to deliver the parcel......no one has knocked and no card has been left.I call Yodel to tell them my parcel has not been delivered and they ask me for the ref no.....what ref no i ask......the ref no on the card the driver left..... ??? ??? ???
To be honest the fact that i haven't got my 121s is not why i am angry...it's the fact that this driver has barefaced lied by saying he knocked and got no answer...i cant stand liars... >:( >:( >:(
But he knows that in the end it would be my word against his and that really p@##es me off.....
Has anyone else had any bad experiences with this joke of a courier company...?
Anyway sorry to go on a bit but i needed to get it off my chest........
OH and it's going to be Thursday before i get my 121s
I've heard a few complaints about yodel, makes me nervous about ordering from hattons... I've not ordered anything since they've changed over (not because of yodel, just haven't seen anything i need) so i can't say if it's good or bad.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: SymonC on October 25, 2011, 09:08:28 PM
Quote from: 4x2ybecauseican on October 25, 2011, 09:07:01 PM
Quote from: Dock Shunter on October 25, 2011, 08:55:28 PM
Hello Fella's...........

I'm quite an easy going bloke.....try not to let things get to me too much,but tonight i am seriously
p@#$$d off.
Had my 121s on pre order at Hattons and yesterday had an email to say they were in stock and would be shipped that afternoon.
I had chosen next day AM delivery and was informed they would be delivered next day before 12 noon by Yodel.
Anyway i was up bright and early this morning 12 noon came and went....got to about 4.30 still no parcel
so i called yodel to ask where it was....."it's on the van and will be delivered today".(what happened to the AM delivery i paid for)?.....
5.30 no parcel so i go online to track the status of the parcel and there is a message saying 17.05 no answer......left a card.
Now i have literally sat by the front door all day waiting..my dog barks when anyone walks past the house and goes mad when anyone knocks...my brother and sister in law where here when he was supposed to have tried to deliver the parcel......no one has knocked and no card has been left.I call Yodel to tell them my parcel has not been delivered and they ask me for the ref no.....what ref no i ask......the ref no on the card the driver left..... ??? ??? ???
To be honest the fact that i haven't got my 121s is not why i am angry...it's the fact that this driver has barefaced lied by saying he knocked and got no answer...i cant stand liars... >:( >:( >:(
But he knows that in the end it would be my word against his and that really p@##es me off.....
Has anyone else had any bad experiences with this joke of a courier company...?
Anyway sorry to go on a bit but i needed to get it off my chest........
OH and it's going to be Thursday before i get my 121s
I've heard a few complaints about yodel, makes me nervous about ordering from hattons... I've not ordered anything since they've changed over (not because of yodel, just haven't seen anything i need) so i can't say if it's good or bad.


You can select delivery by Royal mail from Hattons, you don't have to have Yodel deliver.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: 4x2 on October 25, 2011, 09:11:55 PM
That's worth knowing... Thanks SymonC !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on October 25, 2011, 09:29:54 PM
Quote from: Dock Shunter on October 25, 2011, 08:55:28 PM
Hello Fella's...........

I'm quite an easy going bloke.....try not to let things get to me too much,but tonight i am seriously
p@#$$d off.
Had my 121s on pre order at Hattons and yesterday had an email to say they were in stock and would be shipped that afternoon.
I had chosen next day AM delivery and was informed they would be delivered next day before 12 noon by Yodel.
Anyway i was up bright and early this morning 12 noon came and went....got to about 4.30 still no parcel
so i called yodel to ask where it was....."it's on the van and will be delivered today".(what happened to the AM delivery i paid for)?.....
5.30 no parcel so i go online to track the status of the parcel and there is a message saying 17.05 no answer......left a card.
Now i have literally sat by the front door all day waiting..my dog barks when anyone walks past the house and goes mad when anyone knocks...my brother and sister in law where here when he was supposed to have tried to deliver the parcel......no one has knocked and no card has been left.I call Yodel to tell them my parcel has not been delivered and they ask me for the ref no.....what ref no i ask......the ref no on the card the driver left..... ??? ??? ???
To be honest the fact that i haven't got my 121s is not why i am angry...it's the fact that this driver has barefaced lied by saying he knocked and got no answer...i cant stand liars... >:( >:( >:(
But he knows that in the end it would be my word against his and that really p@##es me off.....
Has anyone else had any bad experiences with this joke of a courier company...?
Anyway sorry to go on a bit but i needed to get it off my chest........
OH and it's going to be Thursday before i get my 121s

Easy to understand why people get cranky, all this buying on line is great but it seems many people are put off by the delivery methods.
I worked in the Post Office as a postie from 1965 to 1989 and would be very hesitant buying on line because of the things I have seen.
One minor example was  a postman who refused to take a 12inch LP record up to the door for delivery instead he leaned it against a brick wall, the people complained so next time they got a record delivered he snapped it in half and shoved it into their letterbox.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dock Shunter on October 25, 2011, 09:33:50 PM
Quote from: SymonC on October 25, 2011, 09:08:28 PM



You can select delivery by Royal mail from Hattons, you don't have to have Yodel deliver.

           I always choose Royal Mail delivery but for some reason there was no option for next day delivery
from Royal Mail.. just the standard delivery.Being a bit impatient and wanting my 121s the next day i went for the AM delivery......more fool me as it will now be Thursday before i get them...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on October 25, 2011, 09:37:39 PM
The same thing with Yodel happened to me in August.

I went to track the package and it stated that a card had been left,phoned Hattons up and got Yodels number,rang them and told them the driver had been nowhere near.
They must have got in touch with the driver because he delivered it about 2 o'clock with the excuse that he was running late and couldn't get here before 12 o'clock,bet he wasn't happy when his office contacted him and he had to come back with the package anyway.

As others have said,it's probably best to choose the royal mail option,I know I will so as not to get a late Yodel delivery from their lying unreliable drivers.
Hattons are aware of the problem but probably get the cheapest rate from Yodel.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dock Shunter on October 25, 2011, 09:47:27 PM
Quote from: oldrailbug on October 25, 2011, 09:29:54 PM



Easy to understand why people get cranky, all this buying on line is great but it seems many people are put off by the delivery methods.
I worked in the Post Office as a postie from 1965 to 1989 and would be very hesitant buying on line because of the things I have seen.
One minor example was  a postman who refused to take a 12inch LP record up to the door for delivery instead he leaned it against a brick wall, the people complained so next time they got a record delivered he snapped it in half and shoved it into their letterbox.

           Usually i go to Hattons personally as i only live a 10/15 min drive away.....
but thinking that the 121s were going to fly off the shelves i decided to pre order....
the funny thing about it all is my parcel went from Hattons warehouse to Yodel in Manchester but to get to Manchester it had to go through the town where i live to get there..........
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on November 11, 2011, 02:22:18 PM
 :'( forced to stay clear of all modelling for about a week to save the 'smells/vapours etc' aggravating a heavy chest/throat infection
Feels like I have swallowed/inhaled a bucket full of powdered glass fragments
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 11, 2011, 03:40:47 PM
Quote from: jonclox on November 11, 2011, 02:22:18 PM
:'( forced to stay clear of all modelling for about a week to save the 'smells/vapours etc' aggravating a heavy chest/throat infection
Feels like I have swallowed/inhaled a bucket full of powdered glass fragments

Hope you feel better soon and are back modelling :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Fratton on November 11, 2011, 05:12:16 PM
Finally got round to converting my class 37 to DCC today soldering was very clean and strong even for me, put one motor side together then while doing the second

PING!


Motor brush spring goes off into oblivion that is the carpet

now waiting on 3 pairs to arrive to finish the job and keep spare,,,,

not happy with myself,,
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on November 11, 2011, 06:00:56 PM
I had the nominal 6mm plywood cut and delivered for my baseboard supports,not very impressed because it only measures 5mm thick and seems to be two outer layers of a thin veneer with a filler between,not what I really expected for three ply but I just ordered it without actually seeing it.

Called in this morning and ordered wood for the baseboard legs and a sheet of ply for the trackbed,when it was delivered it is a totally different ply,this one has three equal thicknesses and is more like a proper plywood.

I should never have assumed that there would be different grades from the same supplier,too late to start over now Grrrr.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on November 16, 2011, 09:27:57 AM
I've had an awful migraine for about 20 hours.  Nothing is touching it.  :(  I've had to turn the brightness on my monitor right down, so I won't be reading much of the forum this morning. :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on November 16, 2011, 11:09:48 AM
Quote from: Tank on November 16, 2011, 09:27:57 AM
I've had an awful migraine for about 20 hours.  Nothing is touching it.  :(  I've had to turn the brightness on my monitor right down, so I won't be reading much of the forum this morning. :thumbsdown:
Right....been there done that many many times so.........
Turn off all music, turn off your monitor or at the very least only view it through a pair of Polaroid sun glasses. (I once had to drive home from the theatre in pitch blackness wearing sunglasses as it was the only way my eyes would focus see anything)
Eat/drink nothing for 24 hours.just rest in a dark room away from all disturbance.
Start up at the end of that time very slowly and, avoid booze, cheese, chocolate for about 3 days.
Good luck
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on November 16, 2011, 11:18:04 AM
Nothing worse Chris, I get one every couple of years but thankfully it eases after I have vomited, take care mate our thoughts are with you.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Rod on November 16, 2011, 12:04:27 PM
Quote from: Tank on November 16, 2011, 09:27:57 AM
I've had an awful migraine for about 20 hours.  Nothing is touching it.  :(  I've had to turn the brightness on my monitor right down, so I won't be reading much of the forum this morning. :thumbsdown:
Have you tried naratriptan, e.g. Naramig? Knocks you out for about 12 hours but shifts the migraine.
Rod
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on November 16, 2011, 12:44:01 PM
Thanks chaps.  It's eased off a bit with Co-codamol, but I'm feeling a little dizzy.  At least the missus is keeping quiet, as I said loud noises hurt. ;) ;D

I haven't heard of Naratriptan Rod, but I'll look out for it.  It sounds powerful!  :) :sleep:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on November 16, 2011, 01:31:28 PM
I get Imigran (Sumatriptan) from my doctor. It's the only thing that will touch my migraines. Without them I'm stuck in bed for 3 days.  :( Migraleve and Diclofenac work for others.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Rod on November 16, 2011, 06:42:27 PM
Quote from: Tank on November 16, 2011, 12:44:01 PM

I haven't heard of Naratriptan Rod, but I'll look out for it.  It sounds powerful!  :) :sleep:
I should have said naratriptan is only available on prescription to my knowledge.
Rod
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on November 16, 2011, 07:02:45 PM
Ibuprofen + paracetamol at the first sign of a bad one building. (they're safe to take together and the new branded one is basically both together but pricier). Main thing I found was changing lots of lifestyle factors (hydration, diet, blood pressure etc.) to avoid them in the first place. Gone from at least 3 days a week being out of action with killer migraines to none in the last year or so (knock on wood).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Rod on November 16, 2011, 07:42:39 PM
Lifestyle changes certainly have a dramatic effect, I think stress is the main cause of migraines.
In my case it was stopping full-time work. It took a couple of years but then they virtually stopped altogether.
Rod
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on November 17, 2011, 11:49:07 AM
How well do you sleep, and do you snore a lot? I used to get bad migraines, and also used to sleep at the drop of a hat. GP sent me for tests and found I had sleep apnia (still don't know how to spell it!). This causes me to wake up every few seconds, indicated by jerking and snorting, and means I never get any deep sleep. It is treated by having an air pump forcing air down my throat via a face mask (not as bad as it sounds), which keeps my throat open and gives me a deep sleep. Not had a migraine since. Have a word with your GP.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: polo2k on November 17, 2011, 02:52:10 PM
Chuffin NHS!

My back decided to blow a gasket back in sept so I have not been able to work since then.
Last Monday I went to a hospital appt to discuss a nerve root block procedure. It transpires that this is only to cover up the siatica, as this subsided on its own many weeks ago. As a result of this they have not cancelled the various appointments that I have been waiting for since Sept.
As a replacment for these I am being sent to a Phisio. Hadn't heard anything since last Monday so I called to check on the referral.
Good news- They have received the referral
Bad news - I have been put on a 15 week waiting list!
This means that my next appointment will be in Feb!

I have explained the situation so they are going to see if they can do anything to advance it, I dont hold out much hope.

Im sick and tired of all the pills and waiting and just want to be back to normal!!

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTv-oBjmo9FaBjnXvVfq_Q3awBH0sF8_HhF6BEZs8mdiNXDak4EWA)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 17, 2011, 03:00:09 PM
You have my sympathy as last year my back blew and I could hardly walk. Luckily my company paid for me to visit a chiropractor/physio who really enjoyed bending me like a hair grip and listening to me scream. It did the trick but every now and then I just feel like it will go again. I really am careful now, especially about letting the cold get to my back
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on November 17, 2011, 04:21:04 PM
This is the kind of thing that really annoys me

http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/5665

Network Rail apparently wanting to demolish a piece of historic architecture in case some hypothetical terrorists come along and do it first.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on November 17, 2011, 05:19:21 PM
Outrageous!  Why don't they just shut the road off and save the building if they're that worried.  I'm sure it's not on the top 100 terrorism hitlist anyway. ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Rod on November 17, 2011, 07:20:19 PM
Quote from: Kipper on November 17, 2011, 11:49:07 AM
How well do you sleep, and do you snore a lot? I used to get bad migraines, and also used to sleep at the drop of a hat. GP sent me for tests and found I had sleep apnia (still don't know how to spell it!). This causes me to wake up every few seconds, indicated by jerking and snorting, and means I never get any deep sleep. It is treated by having an air pump forcing air down my throat via a face mask (not as bad as it sounds), which keeps my throat open and gives me a deep sleep. Not had a migraine since. Have a word with your GP.
Grinding or clenching your teeth is also a frequent cause of migraines. Many people do it in their sleep, my wife has a sort of gumshield to stop her doing it. You may think you don't grind your teeth but it's surprising, when you try and notice, how often you can catch yourself doing it.
Rod
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on November 17, 2011, 08:28:12 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on November 17, 2011, 03:00:09 PM
You have my sympathy as last year my back blew and I could hardly walk. Luckily my company paid for me to visit a chiropractor/physio who really enjoyed bending me like a hair grip and listening to me scream. It did the trick but every now and then I just feel like it will go again. I really am careful now, especially about letting the cold get to my back

After 20+ years of back problems I finally had a disc removed last year, I no longer have spasm in my back which fold me in half for 2 weeks at a time but the nerve damage resulting from the rupture has left me with constant pain in my left buttock, calf and ankle, I also get severe cramps in my left leg now.  But at least my back is better  ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on November 17, 2011, 08:50:18 PM
I think we need to set up a new thread - the Sickie thread!

I had an aggressive tumour removed from my thyroid in May, followed by the rest of the thyroid and associated "giblets" in June, and was meant to have radioactive iodine treatment in August to kill of any residual cancer. They were unable to give the treatment as my iodine levels were too high (should have been virtually zero to encourage take up of the high dose treatment). Went back a month later - just the same. Finally had CT and ultrasound scans last month and revealed that a small bit of thyroid was still there. I must now have this remnant removed but they cannot make up their minds if the hospital that did the original op should do it, or the cancer hospital. My GP thinks it will be listed as non-urgent, so will probably be done at the back end of next year, knowing my luck. Only when it is removed and the iodine levels are low, can I have the treatment. Hopefully this will not allow the cancer to come back.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 17, 2011, 09:10:22 PM
Blimey Kipper - you've been through the mill a bit! Makes me feel so lucky to have reasonable health. Good luck :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Donkey on November 17, 2011, 09:15:04 PM
People who complain about Yodel!!
I have only been working there for a week and already I am getting all this grief!

Donkey
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on November 17, 2011, 09:19:38 PM
Quote from: polo2k on November 17, 2011, 02:52:10 PM
Chuffin NHS!


This means that my next appointment will be in Feb!

I have explained the situation so they are going to see if they can do anything to advance it, I dont hold out much hope.

Im sick and tired of all the pills and waiting and just want to be back to normal!!


Your GP can give you nine free sessions with a Chiropracter every year,might be worth pursuing this and discuss it with the chiropracter.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dock Shunter on November 17, 2011, 09:40:52 PM
Quote from: Donkey on November 17, 2011, 09:15:04 PM
People who complain about Yodel!!
I have only been working there for a week and already I am getting all this grief!

Donkey

Well ya won't be deliverin a parcel to me   ;) ;D........wouldn't touch em with a bargepole...... :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on November 17, 2011, 09:52:43 PM
Quote from: Donkey on November 17, 2011, 09:15:04 PM
People who complain about Yodel!!
I have only been working there for a week and already I am getting all this grief!

Donkey

Downside of working for a company that renamed itself because it was so bloody awful nobody wanted to use them. All you can do is grin and bear it and keep the quality of service as high as you can until people stop complaining because it's become a good service. Unfortunately you're stuck with all the dipsticks running things there, but as long as you're good at your job, there's a faint chance things will improve.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Donkey on November 18, 2011, 09:23:41 AM
Trying my best guys and if I am delivering any parcels from Hattons, Rails, Bromsgrove etc I gaurantee an extra good service lol  :NGaugersRule:

Donkey  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dock Shunter on November 18, 2011, 11:03:08 AM
Quote from: Donkey on November 18, 2011, 09:23:41 AM
Trying my best guys and if I am delivering any parcels from Hattons, Rails, Bromsgrove etc I gaurantee an extra good service lol  :NGaugersRule:

Donkey  :smiley-laughing:
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


You are obviously one of the good guys at Yodel......
My experience (on more than one occasion) was of barefaced liars who said they tried to deliver a parcel
when they had been nowhere near.
The only way they can repair their reputation is employing more people with your attitude...so good on ya :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Fratton on November 18, 2011, 11:21:12 AM
People who make stupid social networking messages about children in need slandering its name with blatantly racist views,

makes my blood boil, it's bad enough with racist views about comic relief but with a charity that strives to help underprivilaged children and those seriously ill or dissabled,,,, ive had to put right a few friends, the rest who werent that important got deleted,,,,,
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tadpole on November 20, 2011, 11:54:20 AM
Mentioning no names (why not? Ed.), but why does a certain N-gauge transfer/decal manufacturer do a sheet of transfers of BR double arrow logos, clearly advertised as 2mm/N-gauge, yet only the very smallest sized ones are any use to an N-gauger. The second smallest size might, just might, be OK for a "large-logo" blue livery loco, like this....

:Class37:

....but the rest are utterly enormous.

I now have hundreds of huge number of big logos, which I will now put on eBay as being suitable for OO gauge.

Here endeth the rant.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: spurno on November 20, 2011, 09:41:18 PM
Quote from: polo2k on November 17, 2011, 02:52:10 PM
Chuffin NHS!

My back decided to blow a gasket back in sept so I have not been able to work since then.
Last Monday I went to a hospital appt to discuss a nerve root block procedure. It transpires that this is only to cover up the siatica, as this subsided on its own many weeks ago. As a result of this they have not cancelled the various appointments that I have been waiting for since Sept.
As a replacment for these I am being sent to a Phisio. Hadn't heard anything since last Monday so I called to check on the referral.
Good news- They have received the referral
Bad news - I have been put on a 15 week waiting list!
This means that my next appointment will be in Feb!

I have explained the situation so they are going to see if they can do anything to advance it, I dont hold out much hope.

Im sick and tired of all the pills and waiting and just want to be back to normal!!

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTv-oBjmo9FaBjnXvVfq_Q3awBH0sF8_HhF6BEZs8mdiNXDak4EWA)
hi,i do sympathise,i suffer with sciatica myself and the only thing that helped me was acupuncture which your doctor can prescribe.my own personal view on physio is that it's the biggest waste of space on this planet,it's never done me any good and i've had a bad back for over thirty years.good luck with yours.

cheers

alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on November 21, 2011, 07:17:40 AM
Quote from: spurno on November 20, 2011, 09:41:18 PM

hi,i do sympathise,i suffer with sciatica myself and the only thing that helped me was acupuncture which your doctor can prescribe.my own personal view on physio is that it's the biggest waste of space on this planet,it's never done me any good and i've had a bad back for over thirty years.good luck with yours.

cheers

alan

Totally agree about physio being a waste of time,the times I've been all that seems to happen is that you have a chat to them,they take some notes and perhaps give you some exercises to do.

I recently had a hip replacement and was told by the physio department that I had to attend for physio.Some notes were taken and I was shown a few exercises which I'd already been shown in hospital and was told to go again if I wanted to,so any ongoing physio didn't really matter after all.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on November 21, 2011, 10:38:43 PM
Why is it that the item of stock you've been searching for always becomes available just when you don't have the money to buy it. But when you do have the money, you can't find it for love 'nor money.

Regards

Neal
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: R M Williams on November 21, 2011, 10:49:05 PM
It's a conspiracy.  Even paranoids have enemies.


Quote from: Calnefoxile on November 21, 2011, 10:38:43 PM
Why is it that the item of stock you've been searching for always becomes available just when you don't have the money to buy it. But when you do have the money, you can't find it for love 'nor money.

Regards

Neal
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on November 22, 2011, 10:51:08 AM
Quote from: R M Williams on November 21, 2011, 10:49:05 PM
It's a conspiracy.  Even paranoids have enemies.


Quote from: Calnefoxile on November 21, 2011, 10:38:43 PM
Why is it that the item of stock you've been searching for always becomes available just when you don't have the money to buy it. But when you do have the money, you can't find it for love 'nor money.

Regards

Neal

For the same reason that almost everything I have bought in the past as a kit or by minitrix has been replaced by a superior version that I can no longer afford !.

Q1, 9F, Brittania, Stove R, gresley coaches and I hear my WD 2-8-0 is about to be produced and I haven't even started making it yet.
And I thought I had pre-ordered one of the smiley faced 121 Bunbble cars , seems not and now all gone ! Still its BEER o'clock here so cheers !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on November 23, 2011, 08:39:02 PM
Quote from: Oldman on November 22, 2011, 10:32:02 PM
...................... Don't think I will use the portable hoover tho', tis great for most jobs but a Dyson on a train board - no way.
:thumbsdown: Noooooooo Dysons arnt 'Hoovers' their vacuum cleaners just like all the other 'non Hoover' vacuum cleaners.
Hoover do produce vacuum cleaners under the brand name 'Hoover' whilst 'Dysons, produce vacuum cleaners under the brand name  'Dyson'
My 'jeep' is a 'Suzuki 4X4' not a gas guzling US made 'Jeep'
The ball point pen your fiddling with is a 'Bic' ball pen not a quality branded 'Biro'
(think I better go and sit in a dark quiet corner for an hour or so before I go off on any more examples)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on November 23, 2011, 08:49:44 PM
 :smiley-laughing:  I had a full blown argument with a mate of mine who works for Currys and who sells hoovers!   :P  In the UK it is perfectly acceptable to say hoover or vacuum when talking about vacuum cleaners in general, but obviously, if you mean the brand Hoover, then it has a capital.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on November 23, 2011, 09:42:21 PM
I refuse to fall for Hoovers advertising spiel. I always call a vacuum cleaner a vacuum cleaner. What other words have a double U?  :) Don't think I've ever owned a J. Edgar anyway.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on November 23, 2011, 09:46:17 PM
"We await the Windows 7 vacuum cleaner - it'll be the first Microsoft product that doesn't suck"



Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on November 23, 2011, 09:47:48 PM
Why is it that when using Google and trying to find a supplier of virtually any commodity, an awful lot of the sites give you loads of information...........but no prices ? :thumbsdown:

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GrahamB on November 23, 2011, 10:07:08 PM
Quote from: spurno on November 20, 2011, 09:41:18 PM
Quote from: polo2k on November 17, 2011, 02:52:10 PM
Chuffin NHS!

My back decided to blow a gasket back in sept so I have not been able to work since then.
Last Monday I went to a hospital appt to discuss a nerve root block procedure. It transpires that this is only to cover up the siatica, as this subsided on its own many weeks ago. As a result of this they have not cancelled the various appointments that I have been waiting for since Sept.
As a replacment for these I am being sent to a Phisio. Hadn't heard anything since last Monday so I called to check on the referral.
Good news- They have received the referral
Bad news - I have been put on a 15 week waiting list!
This means that my next appointment will be in Feb!

I have explained the situation so they are going to see if they can do anything to advance it, I dont hold out much hope.

Im sick and tired of all the pills and waiting and just want to be back to normal!!

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTv-oBjmo9FaBjnXvVfq_Q3awBH0sF8_HhF6BEZs8mdiNXDak4EWA)
hi,i do sympathise,i suffer with sciatica myself and the only thing that helped me was acupuncture which your doctor can prescribe.my own personal view on physio is that it's the biggest waste of space on this planet,it's never done me any good and i've had a bad back for over thirty years.good luck with yours.

cheers

alan
I slipped a disk.

Hold out for an MRI scan. It's the only way they can tell what's going on.
The further the sciatica is down your leg, the worse the problem is.
Steer clear of Tramadol. I was on eight tablets a day for six months and became addicted. Getting off it was hell and while I don't condone recreational drug taking, I have a new appreciation of what recovering drug addicts go through.
Physio does work but it depends how bad the damage is. When my Physio saw my MRI scan he simply said he couldn't do anything until the disk was removed. It was removed and he got me working again. I now have a new lease of life.
Finally, consider going private. I did simply because I'd lose more in wages (and pain) by waiting for the NHS. So far as they were concerned I was an emergency and would still have to wait six months plus!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on November 23, 2011, 10:18:28 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on November 23, 2011, 09:46:17 PM
"We await the Windows 7 vacuum cleaner - it'll be the first Microsoft product that doesn't suck"

Grrrrrrrrr.......windoze 7. :'(

It's like trying to learn Chinese as far as I'm concerned.I'll stick with XP thank you very much.
My wife recently bought a laptop and of course it's got Windows 7 installed.I've never done as much swearing in my life as I do trying to use and find anything in the damn thing.Of course my wife doesn't like this and is not really getting on with learning to use a PC because I'm finding it frustratingly hard to use it myself.

Trying to find anything in control panel amongst about a hundred different named programs is a nightmare,not only that,but Microsoft seem to want to make decisions for me,put the pointer anywhere near a program name or icon whilst trying to read through the list and the dam thing opens a new window that I don't want.When I actually put the pointer over something I do want I end up having to click on it to get it to open. :thumbsdown:

Where's the uninstall programs ? Eventually I found it inside another program but haven't found it since and had to do a search for it when I needed it.
It just seems really hard work to get the program I want without all these new windows popping up which have to be closed each time.There just seems so much stuff in there that the average user will never use.

Anyway,I took the laptop in today to see if the chap at the computer shop can install XP on it,I really hope so.

Will I be buying the new Windows 8, yes.....but not before hell freezes over and someone leaves me Buckingham Palace in their will.

Some people will obviously fair better than me in using Windows 7

Allan


Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: polo2k on November 24, 2011, 02:00:43 PM
Quote from: GrahamB on November 23, 2011, 10:07:08 PM
Quote from: spurno on November 20, 2011, 09:41:18 PM
Quote from: polo2k on November 17, 2011, 02:52:10 PM
Chuffin NHS!

My back decided to blow a gasket back in sept so I have not been able to work since then.
Last Monday I went to a hospital appt to discuss a nerve root block procedure. It transpires that this is only to cover up the siatica, as this subsided on its own many weeks ago. As a result of this they have not cancelled the various appointments that I have been waiting for since Sept.
As a replacment for these I am being sent to a Phisio. Hadn't heard anything since last Monday so I called to check on the referral.
Good news- They have received the referral
Bad news - I have been put on a 15 week waiting list!
This means that my next appointment will be in Feb!

I have explained the situation so they are going to see if they can do anything to advance it, I dont hold out much hope.

Im sick and tired of all the pills and waiting and just want to be back to normal!!

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTv-oBjmo9FaBjnXvVfq_Q3awBH0sF8_HhF6BEZs8mdiNXDak4EWA)
hi,i do sympathise,i suffer with sciatica myself and the only thing that helped me was acupuncture which your doctor can prescribe.my own personal view on physio is that it's the biggest waste of space on this planet,it's never done me any good and i've had a bad back for over thirty years.good luck with yours.

cheers

alan
I slipped a disk.

Hold out for an MRI scan. It's the only way they can tell what's going on.
The further the sciatica is down your leg, the worse the problem is.
Steer clear of Tramadol. I was on eight tablets a day for six months and became addicted. Getting off it was hell and while I don't condone recreational drug taking, I have a new appreciation of what recovering drug addicts go through.
Physio does work but it depends how bad the damage is. When my Physio saw my MRI scan he simply said he couldn't do anything until the disk was removed. It was removed and he got me working again. I now have a new lease of life.
Finally, consider going private. I did simply because I'd lose more in wages (and pain) by waiting for the NHS. So far as they were concerned I was an emergency and would still have to wait six months plus!
Well, I broke my usual calm persona and jumped up and down a little (not phisically of course!) and ive got an appt on Monday now.
I had the CT scan a while ago, the result from that was to get the nerve blocker (to stop the siatica (extending into my foot)). at the same time they were talking about operating, however when the consultant kyboshed the nerve blocker, he appears to have axed the operation too, but he left the room so fast I didnt get a chance to talk to him about it.
Months ago my chiropracter was too concerned to do much apart from a shoulder massage so im expecting a similar experiance to you. Im trying not to contemplate private treatment until I actually know what will work as at the moment I have been getting 3 months of being passed pillar to post!
I feel your pain with the tramadol. Currently on 2 every 4 hrs. plus diclofenic and this week my doc has added another pill to lessen the chances of an ulcer caused by the medication. Im a bit concerned about the addictive side of these painkillers too, he mentioned using oramorph at one point, but I declined for exactly that reason.

fingers crossed itll be on the mend soon!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 24, 2011, 02:43:42 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on November 23, 2011, 09:46:17 PM
"We await the Windows 7 vacuum cleaner - it'll be the first Microsoft product that doesn't suck"


Nice one, EP :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GrahamB on November 24, 2011, 03:29:10 PM
Quote from: polo2k on November 24, 2011, 02:00:43 PM
Well, I broke my usual calm persona and jumped up and down a little (not phisically of course!) and ive got an appt on Monday now.
I had the CT scan a while ago, the result from that was to get the nerve blocker (to stop the siatica (extending into my foot)). at the same time they were talking about operating, however when the consultant kyboshed the nerve blocker, he appears to have axed the operation too, but he left the room so fast I didnt get a chance to talk to him about it.
Months ago my chiropracter was too concerned to do much apart from a shoulder massage so im expecting a similar experiance to you. Im trying not to contemplate private treatment until I actually know what will work as at the moment I have been getting 3 months of being passed pillar to post!
I feel your pain with the tramadol. Currently on 2 every 4 hrs. plus diclofenic and this week my doc has added another pill to lessen the chances of an ulcer caused by the medication. Im a bit concerned about the addictive side of these painkillers too, he mentioned using oramorph at one point, but I declined for exactly that reason.

fingers crossed itll be on the mend soon!
It can't go much further than your foot (Well, big toe). Sounds like you need a discectomy like I had. UK docs say Tramadol not that bad. US forums are calling for it to be listed.

What you can do is pay for a private consultation and then go onto the NHS waiting list. It will probably cost a couple of hundred pounds and you get a proper relaxed and thorough consultaion (Well, I did). It's queue jumping, but what the hell.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on November 26, 2011, 10:12:35 AM
Bloomin' Railmatch paints!  The primer never dries properly when I've painted it on my models - despite vigerous mixing AND when I haven't used the paints for ages I just can't get the lids off of some of the jars without the lids cracking or breaking them. >:(  I much prefer the tins of Phoenix paints, although I can't complain about the quality of the paints themselves, superb!.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on November 26, 2011, 10:41:45 AM
Finally ditched PCs earlier in the year (the final straw was weeks of problems with Windows 7 service pack) and moved to Macs which was expensive. But the ease of using the Macs particularly things working first time, upgrades working, backups working, intuitive interface etc and suddenly I had a smiley face instead of miserable face. I had reclaimed hours, if not days, of time that would have been spent with Windows. And their 'Office' equivalent is much cheaper and, IMHO, better to use. And now we have Apple iCloud which is superb for keeping the calendars and contacts up to date on all of my Apple devices - as well as holding a limited number of documents. Double smiley face!!

But the most of the rest of the world uses Microsoft. Was sent a Powerpoint presentation (.potx) file that Mac Keynote would't open and the sender of the presentation was now on leave. So had to go back to MS Office via Parallels to open it. All of the old frustrations came back, Windows told me my copy of Windows 7 wasn't genuine (which it is) etc, etc etc. Hours of time lost, miserable face came back - is there no escape from Microsoft?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 26, 2011, 10:54:28 AM
Quote from: Pendy on November 26, 2011, 10:41:45 AM
Hours of time lost, miserable face came back - is there no escape from Microsoft?

Resistance is futile - you will be assimilated :evil:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on November 26, 2011, 10:59:33 AM
I thought Macs are what you wear to keep the rain off !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dock Shunter on November 26, 2011, 11:18:58 AM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on November 26, 2011, 10:59:33 AM
I thought Macs are what you wear to keep the rain off !

I thought it was that place that sold dodgy hamburgers.... ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on November 26, 2011, 11:28:33 AM
Quote from: Pendy on November 26, 2011, 10:41:45 AM
Finally ditched PCs earlier in the year (the final straw was weeks of problems with Windows 7 service pack) and moved to Macs which was expensive. But the ease of using the Macs particularly things working first time, upgrades working, backups working, intuitive interface etc and suddenly I had a smiley face instead of miserable face.

- is there no escape from Microsoft?


Hi Pendy,

I've got totally frustrated and angry with trying to use windows 7 on my wife's laptop so I took it in to get Windows XP put on it.
After reading your post it got me thinking,I phoned the computer shop up and the lap top has not been put on XP .The chap there in charge said he will do a part exchange and is getting me some prices for a Mac laptop on Monday.

I'll continue with XP on my PC,but when the time comes I could well get a Mac instead.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on November 26, 2011, 11:47:20 AM
I buy my stuff from the on-line Apple refurbished store saving lumps of money although it might not be the very latest spec. The stuff looks as good as new and is covered by warranty - so far I have not had any issues, just counted the savings! The other saving is that I am running a free virus checker as Macs are not as susceptible (at the moment).

Some people have gone over to Linux which you can run on a PC and have had good results - Ubuntu is free to download.

It would be worth checking what ports you need with your laptop. Macs do not have very many (and the Macbook Airs are wireless only) but you can get display adapters from Amazon etc.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on November 26, 2011, 12:23:25 PM
Both my wife and myself are over the pension age and she decided she wanted to get with it and have a laptop.

As any new user,she often needs help and I can't do it with the horrible Windows7 GUI. so something needs to happen.All she wants basically is to get on the web and send emails,but everything seems such hard work in Windows7.

I wanted to uninstall a program and had to type uninstall in the search to find it...that's progress huh.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on November 26, 2011, 12:31:31 PM
If all she wants is Web and e mails then get an iPad. My 83 year old Mum took over my iPad last year. She has never used a computer before but loves the iPad and spends hours on it. She has severe arthritis in her hands but can use the touch screen ok. I bought her a stylus and that improved things for her further - particularly clicking on links in small fonts.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on November 26, 2011, 01:15:25 PM
Quote from: Pendy on November 26, 2011, 10:41:45 AM
But the most of the rest of the world uses Microsoft. Was sent a Powerpoint presentation (.potx) file that Mac Keynote would't open and the sender of the presentation was now on leave.

Openoffice/Libreoffice is your friend.

I have to admit my non work computer is rapidly becoming my Android phone however.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on November 28, 2011, 10:48:41 AM
I preordered a 4-CEP on the 23rd at Lendons, thinking that they hadn't updated the webpage.  I emailed yesterday and they replied today (very impressed!) to say that all of the first batch have been sent out to customers and I'd have to wait until the next batch arrive - date unknown!  Doh!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: H on November 28, 2011, 11:17:55 AM
I've tried Macs on several occassions and have never found them particularly intuitive. AFAIC Apple stuff is a triumph of style over function; great if you want to look flash, but poor when it comes to hard use. itunes is a great example; it's so quirky and difficult to use. As another example I've got two sisters with iphones who both say that the extras (music, texting, web browsing, etc) are great, but when it comes to being used as a phone the functionality is very poor; poor quality sound, noise, connectivity, often drop out mid conversation, etc. And that certainly seems the case when they ring me.

But I guess it's horses for courses; for a bit of up-market, one upmanship techno-bling, Apple gear certainly catches the eye. As I said, a triumph of fashion over function. ;D

H.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: red_death on November 28, 2011, 11:48:17 AM
What are you all doing with Windows 7 to make it so much more hard work?  ???

I am really surprised as I find W7 much nicer and easier to use than XP...hardly surprising given that some parts of the GUI appear to have been "borrowed" from OSX (and other interfaces).

Apple stuff is nice, but at a very high price in terms of cost and flexibility (both of hardware and software).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on November 28, 2011, 12:37:40 PM
Quote from: red_death on November 28, 2011, 11:48:17 AM
What are you all doing with Windows 7 to make it so much more hard work?  ???


That's my point,I'm not doing anything with it because it's such hard work.
It constantly opens a new window and hides what I'm trying to look at,when I do want to look at anything I have to actually click on it instead.
The control panel is a mess and I have to type in what I'm looking for.

If I'd found it intuitive to use I wouldn't even have thought about a Mac, and certainly not for a bit of up-market, one upmanship techno-bling as H put it,neither am I interested in what Apple phones are like.

I went from an Amiga to Windows Millenium without any problems,then I went to XP without any problems but Windows 7 is just a lot of frustration,anger and swearing for me.

Anyway,I'll know one way or the other when the Mac arrives.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on November 28, 2011, 12:57:11 PM
I used to really like Windows 7 but it was Service Pack 1 that was the final straw - kept getting stuck when downloading, and blowing my download limit. So purchased CD from Microsoft, then it told me my copy of Windows 7 was not genuine (which it was), then had issues with internet, couldn't uninstall it etc, etc. Lucky I had a macbook air so I could find out what was going on as I didn't know if these issues were caused by virus. I was an IT Manager at the time and even our technical experts could not work out what was going on as all of the instructions had been followed to the letter.

Since going over to Macs totally, I have found that a whole load of stress in my life has disappeared. The are more expensive, but the resale value is higher than PCs and the Apple iWorks 'office' software is cheaper. Plus it boots up more quickly, is 'greener', and the screen is easier to use on the train. I spent a small amount of familiarisation time with it but the apple support forums are very good. i have kept a version of MS Office that I can use with Parallels that emulates a PC. I hardly ever use it now as I am well used to the Apple software.

H, accept that they look good and they may not be everyone's cup of tea (the keyboard layout is slightly different for example) and the ports are more limited so probably best to test one before purchasing. Only downside is that Anyrail is not compatible.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on November 28, 2011, 01:10:13 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on November 28, 2011, 12:37:40 PM

I went from an Amiga to Windows Millenium without any problems . . .

Anyway,I'll know one way or the other when the Mac arrives.

Allan

If you need any help with the Mac, then let me know. I used to have an Atari ST and find that the Mac reminds me of the trouble free computing of those days. If you want a retro game, there is a cracking version of Elite, called Oolite.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: red_death on November 28, 2011, 01:26:10 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on November 28, 2011, 12:37:40 PM
That's my point,I'm not doing anything with it because it's such hard work.
It constantly opens a new window and hides what I'm trying to look at,when I do want to look at anything I have to actually click on it instead.
The control panel is a mess and I have to type in what I'm looking for.

Now you have really lost me! What constantly opens a new window when you are trying to do things? Are you talking about your internet browser or something else?  It sounds like some of your settings are out of kilter to what you want, but that should be easy to change back.

The control panel is different to XP, but I certainly wouldn't call it a mess - just a different way of doing things. I actually think the control panel is more intuitive now than it used to be.

Quote from: Pendy on November 28, 2011, 12:57:11 PM
The are more expensive, but the resale value is higher than PCs and the Apple iWorks 'office' software is cheaper. Plus it boots up more quickly, is 'greener'
As Alan says - Open/Libre Office is even cheaper still ;-)
Linux on an SSD boots up very quickly as well!
Plus I wouldn't be so sure about Apple being greener - a few years ago they were one of the worst and still lag behind others: http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/campaigns/climate-change/cool-it/Guide-to-Greener-Electronics/
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on November 28, 2011, 01:41:42 PM
I ordered a £50 bottle of SWMBO favourite perfume on the 17th and paid another £5 for postage - still not arrived, so I phoned them, the order wasn't picked & packed until the 22nd, posted on the 23rd and should be with me tomorrow.  What the hell am I paying £5 for, flipping pigeon post  >:(

Good job I ordered it well before Christmas, think I will get all my Chrimbo shopping done this week just in case.
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Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on November 28, 2011, 02:25:34 PM
Quote from: Pendy on November 28, 2011, 12:57:11 PM
Since going over to Macs totally, I have found that a whole load of stress in my life has disappeared.
Plus it boots up more quickly
I spent a small amount of familiarisation time with it but the apple support forums are very good.
i have kept a version of MS Office that I can use with Parallels that emulates a PC. I hardly ever use it now as I am well used to the Apple software.

I got (very, very) annoyed when two PCs I bought wouldn't run with ONLY windows and internet explorer running (both were fast gaming machines, cannot imagine that they would have coped with Halo or Call of Duty).  Gave up on Windows and got a Mac.  Totally agree that the stress of Windows has gone and I do not miss it one bit.  You buy an expensive bit of kit, you don't expect it to be that much hard work.  The Mac is more expensive but it is a joy to use.  My Mac hasn't crashed once in two years.
Very quick to get to grips with the differences too.
I did install Parallels so I could use my train control software, but Parallels didn't let it load, so uninstalled it.
Sadly, I can't be Windows free so my laptop now runs my trains.  I don't do anything with it except that.  I don't update it, I don't connect to the internet to get virus infections.

I would recommend a Mac to anyone who can afford the extra outlay.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on November 28, 2011, 02:40:13 PM
Quote from: Mustermark on November 28, 2011, 02:25:34 PM
Sadly, I can't be Windows free so my laptop now runs my trains. 

JMRI will run on Macintoys as well as Linux and Windows so depending what sort of control set up you have that may do the trick. Also lets you use Android and iPhones as radio throttles!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on November 28, 2011, 02:49:13 PM
Quote from: red_death on November 28, 2011, 01:26:10 PM

Now you have really lost me! What constantly opens a new window when you are trying to do things? Are you talking about your internet browser or something else?  It sounds like some of your settings are out of kilter to what you want, but that should be easy to change back.

The control panel is different to XP, but I certainly wouldn't call it a mess - just a different way of doing things. I actually think the control panel is more intuitive now than it used to be.


Yes it's certainly a different way of doing things.

The control panel was one of the programs that kept opening a new window in my face whenever the pointer hovered near something as I was trying to read through about a hundred text descriptions,by the time I'd closed the window I had to start all over again being extremely careful not to move the mouse pointer.

Had to use the search function and type in uninstall to even find the uninstall software option...not what I'd call intuitive in any way.
If some of the settings were out of kilter as you suggest,the laptop came with them installed like that,I never got into it enough to try and alter anything.

Anyway,the Macs are ordered.The helpline number is a freephone number and I was put through to the call centre in America at no charge,also got a discount.

All being well I'll be a Mac and Windows XP user by Wednesday.

Allan

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on November 28, 2011, 03:00:52 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on November 28, 2011, 02:40:13 PM
Quote from: Mustermark on November 28, 2011, 02:25:34 PM
Sadly, I can't be Windows free so my laptop now runs my trains. 
JMRI will run on Macintoys as well as Linux and Windows so depending what sort of control set up you have that may do the trick. Also lets you use Android and iPhones as radio throttles!

That sounds very cool indeed.  An iPhone throttle would be neat.  I am pretty much complete with installation of my CTI stuff and their software doesn't run on a Mac (as far as I know still doesn't) so I think moving to JMRI might not be feasible now.  It sounds interesting though and I might just look at it out of interest to see how it works and what it can do (it looks like it can do anything).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: red_death on November 28, 2011, 03:10:07 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on November 28, 2011, 02:49:13 PM
The control panel was one of the programs that kept opening a new window in my face whenever the pointer hovered near something as I was trying to read through about a hundred text descriptions,by the time I'd closed the window I had to start all over again being extremely careful not to move the mouse pointer.

That sounds very strange - I am using W7 control panel at the moment and no new windows open at all when I hover over things. I get a new window when I click on some items.

Quote from: Bikeracer on November 28, 2011, 02:49:13 PM
Had to use the search function and type in uninstall to even find the uninstall software option...not what I'd call intuitive in any way.
If some of the settings were out of kilter as you suggest,the laptop came with them installed like that,I never got into it enough to try and alter anything.

Now you have me stumped - I open up the Control Panel and I have a category called Programs, with a link underneath to Uninstall a program. Click on that and it opens up the familiar (from XP) list of installed software. I then pick what I want to uninstall.

I wouldn't go back to XP from W7 in a million years.  Now Office 2007/10 I would gladly consign to a dust bin....but that is another story!

JMRI + Withrottle or Android version is very neat. 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on November 28, 2011, 03:53:11 PM
Just touched my front door to see if the paint was dry. It wasn't.  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on November 28, 2011, 03:54:16 PM
Quote from: red_death on November 28, 2011, 01:26:10 PM

Plus I wouldn't be so sure about Apple being greener - a few years ago they were one of the worst and still lag behind others: http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/campaigns/climate-change/cool-it/Guide-to-Greener-Electronics/

take everything greenpeace says with a serious pinch of salt. They're not an environmental group any more, just a money raising group. Every year they publish these lists targeting whichever company they think will pay them the most to bump them up the rankings (or add a greenpeace logo to their brochures) and Apple called their bluff by totally ignoring them :) Cue a year of greenpeace trying to slag Apple off in the press and Apple simply pointing out that all their products are far more green in terms of being made entirely of recyclable materials with no bromides etc. that the others have been using and have been for years, they just don't bother filling in greenpeace's 'reports'.

My money goes to Sea Shepherd anyway, they actually save whales rather than raising money while pretending to ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on November 28, 2011, 04:06:20 PM
Quote from: poliss on November 28, 2011, 03:53:11 PM
Just touched my front door to see if the paint was dry. It wasn't.  >:(

:smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: red_death on November 28, 2011, 04:12:01 PM
Quote from: Zwilnik on November 28, 2011, 03:54:16 PM
take everything greenpeace says with a serious pinch of salt. They're not an environmental group any more, just a money raising group. <snip> they just don't bother filling in greenpeace's 'reports'.

Oh I do take with a large pinch of salt what any of the "green" groups say, though I think there was more than an element of truth in what GP were saying on this one.  Any large scale campaigning organisation costs alot of money - I think you could throw that accusation at many campaigning groups. but I am not sure it really helps get anyone anywhere.

The green electronics reports was also based on information disclosed by manufacturers (either product information or environmental/safety reports) - if a manufacturer can not be bothered to disclose what hazardous components may or may not be in their products then forgive me for being sceptical for not believing their marketing!  I don't doubt that Apple are much better (both in production and communications) now.

Quote from: Zwilnik on November 28, 2011, 03:54:16 PM
My money goes to Sea Shepherd anyway, they actually save whales rather than raising money while pretending to ;)

And on that note we will definitely have to agree to disagree...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on November 28, 2011, 04:24:57 PM
What's the repair status on Apple computers? Do you still have them to an Apple dealer? If my PC goes wrong, or I want to upgrade it, I can pick up spare parts very easily.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on November 28, 2011, 04:47:00 PM
Quote from: poliss on November 28, 2011, 03:53:11 PM
Just touched my front door to see if the paint was dry. It wasn't.  >:(

:smiley-laughing:

Bummer.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on November 28, 2011, 04:51:29 PM
Quote from: red_death on November 28, 2011, 04:12:01 PM
Quote from: Zwilnik on November 28, 2011, 03:54:16 PM
take everything greenpeace says with a serious pinch of salt. They're not an environmental group any more, just a money raising group. <snip> they just don't bother filling in greenpeace's 'reports'.

Oh I do take with a large pinch of salt what any of the "green" groups say, though I think there was more than an element of truth in what GP were saying on this one.  Any large scale campaigning organisation costs alot of money - I think you could throw that accusation at many campaigning groups. but I am not sure it really helps get anyone anywhere.

The green electronics reports was also based on information disclosed by manufacturers (either product information or environmental/safety reports) - if a manufacturer can not be bothered to disclose what hazardous components may or may not be in their products then forgive me for being sceptical for not believing their marketing!  I don't doubt that Apple are much better (both in production and communications) now.

Quote from: Zwilnik on November 28, 2011, 03:54:16 PM
My money goes to Sea Shepherd anyway, they actually save whales rather than raising money while pretending to ;)

And on that note we will definitely have to agree to disagree...

Apple's not beholden to Greenpeace, just to their customers. So rather than waste time with a survey that focussed on components that Apple didn't use and out of date practices, they just got on with making better products and waiting for the other manufacturers to keep on trying to copy them.

Greenpeace has done *nothing* in the last half decade to save whales. In fact they've been trying to prevent Sea Shepherd from doing just that by helping the Japanese government and even publicly eating whale meat. They even have their chuggers out in the street collecting money under false pretences by showing photos of Sea Shepherd ships stopping illegal whalers and pretending they're Greenpeace ships when Greenpeace hasn't sent a ship to the Antarctic (or any other illegal fishing or whaling operation) since 2006.

(Greenpeace did illegally blockage a Mediterranean fishing port this year, managing to set back the legal anti poaching of bluefin tuna campaign by aggravating legitimate fishermen) and they have spent $30 million on a publicity yacht though.


As far as Apple repair's concerned, you call Applecare if it's under warranty for free repairs (either take it into a local Apple store if you have one nearby or they'll send someone out) or for user servicable parts such as hard drives and RAM, just swap them out yourself.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on November 28, 2011, 04:51:54 PM
It's alright for you lot to larf. Your mouse wheel finger isn't dark blue!  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on November 28, 2011, 04:58:02 PM
"user servicable parts such as hard drives and RAM" Q. Can I upgrade my MacBook Air Ram from 2G to 4G after I purchase 2G Ram ? "A. No. That computer's RAM is soldered to the motherboard and not upgradable."
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: red_death on November 28, 2011, 05:09:42 PM
Quote from: Zwilnik on November 28, 2011, 04:51:29 PM
Apple's not beholden to Greenpeace, just to their customers. So rather than waste time with a survey that focussed on components that Apple didn't use and out of date practices, they just got on with making better products and waiting for the other manufacturers to keep on trying to copy them.

Did you actually read what I wrote (or any of the GP material)? Why keep banging on about surveys?  When GP started their campaign on consumer electricals Apple's products contained exactly some of the chemicals that you are saying they didn't eg Brominated Flame Retardants etc.  On that Apple were distinctly behind others...

Quote from: Zwilnik on November 28, 2011, 04:51:29 PM
Greenpeace has done *nothing* in the last half decade to save whales.

Which rather misses the whole point - direct intervention in the hunting process is not the only way to save whales.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 28, 2011, 05:22:51 PM
Come on, guys. Take a deep breath/time out or whatever and reduce the heat level please. Debates can be good wholesome fun but let's not let it get personal.
SECONDS AWAY - ROUND 2!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: red_death on November 28, 2011, 05:24:25 PM
Apologies Newportnobby - getting too carried away with the angry theme  ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on November 28, 2011, 05:44:00 PM
Quote from: poliss on November 28, 2011, 04:51:54 PM
It's alright for you lot to larf. Your mouse wheel finger isn't dark blue!  >:(

And I don't have fingerprints all over my front door! ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on November 28, 2011, 05:45:58 PM
Quote from: poliss on November 28, 2011, 04:58:02 PM
"user servicable parts such as hard drives and RAM" Q. Can I upgrade my MacBook Air Ram from 2G to 4G after I purchase 2G Ram ? "A. No. That computer's RAM is soldered to the motherboard and not upgradable."


true, but you don't buy a Mac Book Air to upgrade the RAM later, you buy it because it's the lightest and cheapest full laptop available (the RAM's soldered onto the motherboard to make it smaller and more reliable). If you want a Mac laptop you can upgrade the RAM on, or with a big hard drive, you buy a MacBook Pro. If you want a computer you build yourself, then you're not an Apple customer.

As for Greenpeace's Apple report, they put Apple to the top of their list a year or so later when Apple put the full details on their website. The brominates etc. were only in the older screens and such that Apple phased out years ago and Greenpeace didn't consider any factors such as Macs staying in active use for up to 10 years vs a year or so before a typical PC gets dumped.

So far Greenpeace's 'be nice' approach has only encouraged the illegal whaling fleet to carry on, despite having a huge stock of unsold whalemeat in warehouses and talking up Sea Shepherd as 'terrorists' when they're a charitable non violent organisation (with no record of arrest or conviction, which Greenpeace can't claim) whose ships are welcome in ports around the world, while the whaling ships are banned outside of Japan.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on November 28, 2011, 07:06:06 PM
Take the Greenpeace discussion to PM's or elsewhere please lads if you want to continue it.  Thank you
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RichardBattersby on November 28, 2011, 08:10:07 PM
I'd like to let off some steam about:
http://www.raymansfieldmodelrailways.com  :thumbsdown:

I bought something from them on Tuesday and didn't get any word from them to say the purchase had gone through/been accepted/been shipped - nothing. I left it until today to email them to ask whether it had gone through and if so where it was. I got a very short email with no greeting or signature saying that it had been posted and he'd send me the tracking no. later. I thought it was a touch rude. He just phoned me and got stroppy that in my email I'd quoted my billing not shipping address and abbruptly told me that it had arrived today. He said "if I sent out confirmation emails for every purchase I'd get no work done!" Can you believe that? Confirmation email ARE work, it's standard internet practice, what 'company' doesn't send out an email saying they've shipped/you've bought something AND then be rude on the phone! It wasn't even like it was quick postage (6 days) so I'd have had it before emailing. I politely suggested that he maybe added something to his website saying the type of postage (so I know what time frame to wait before contacting) that is used by standard. He said if there was a problem then our telephone and email address are clearly stated... But that's exactly what I did! Email him. He got annoyed and hung up.

Terrible, terrible service and completely unprofessional.

Rant over - now where are those bunnies and flowers?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: red_death on November 28, 2011, 08:27:00 PM
Richard

Sorry to hear that - from reports on other forums I would steer well clear of Ray Mansfield.  I wouldn't take any excuses of attempts to palm you off with excuses and mis-information.

Good luck, Mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RichardBattersby on November 28, 2011, 08:31:10 PM
Quote from: red_death on November 28, 2011, 08:27:00 PM
Richard

Sorry to hear that - from reports on other forums I would steer well clear of Ray Mansfield.  I wouldn't take any excuses of attempts to palm you off with excuses and mis-information.

Good luck, Mike

Thanks Mike, it's comforting to know that it wasn't just me! :) I'll stick with my local for now I think - Rails.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on November 28, 2011, 09:21:10 PM
Wow!  That is rude.  Hattons were as nice as can be when I queried the late arrival of my HST.  Rails and Kernow were very efficient and polite when I used them, and queried orders with both.  Osborn's have been very helpful too when I had a problem ordering online.

It's funny, but being in the US now, you really get a sense of what customer service should be like.   A business here wouldn't stay viable without being prompt and polite.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RichardBattersby on November 28, 2011, 09:25:19 PM
If only they were all like that. As bad as it is, I'd pay a little extra for good service.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on November 28, 2011, 10:43:47 PM
Quote from: Mustermark on November 28, 2011, 09:21:10 PM

It's funny, but being in the US now, you really get a sense of what customer service should be like.   A business here wouldn't stay viable without being prompt and polite.


Crikey Mark I wish they were like that in Australia, most of the staff in hobby shops here treat customers like trash, we have two near to where I live both leave you standing like a stale bottle of P, no wonder nearly every railway modeller that I know buy online.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on November 29, 2011, 08:50:12 PM
 >:( >:( 100% terminaly dead laptop from Friday till Monday when it heard that I had just scraped enough pennies together to buy a new one and commited to buy it so what does it do?........................
Springs back into life just after the last chance to cancel the new one had passed  ::) I`m fuming
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on November 29, 2011, 09:31:23 PM
Quote from: jonclox on November 29, 2011, 08:50:12 PM
>:( >:( 100% terminaly dead laptop from Friday till Monday when it heard that I had just scraped enough pennies together to buy a new one and commited to buy it so what does it do?........................
Springs back into life just after the last chance to cancel the new one had passed  ::) I`m fuming

Did you take the battery out and leave it for a bit ? That's something that is often worth doing with a laptop that completely goes kersplat. The other thing is killing the CMOS config - but on most laptops that involves screwdrivers, youtube videos and much swearing.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on November 30, 2011, 10:55:31 AM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on November 29, 2011, 09:31:23 PM
Quote from: jonclox on November 29, 2011, 08:50:12 PM
>:( >:( 100% terminaly dead laptop from Friday till Monday when it heard that I had just scraped enough pennies together to buy a new one and commited to buy it so what does it do?........................
Springs back into life just after the last chance to cancel the new one had passed  ::) I`m fuming

Did you take the battery out and leave it for a bit ? That's something that is often worth doing with a laptop that completely goes kersplat. The other thing is killing the CMOS config - but on most laptops that involves screwdrivers, youtube videos and much swearing.

Thanks :thumbsup: The thing  was left 'on' after much swearing etc. at the deceased thing and so ran down.
I guess that may have done the same as removing the battery for 48 hrs.  Over the years Ive reflashed the CMOS on many desktop PCs so that was on the agenda for 'Things to do' if Iever got any life/reaction from the deceased

Over the years
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: grumbeast on December 04, 2011, 09:38:51 AM
Well...

Not posted for a while as we've been having an interesting time with the houses electrics...

The only thing we didn't get before buying was an electrical certificate and what a mistake that was.

Seems that the previous owners either did the work themselves, or had a real cowboy do it... We had a short which didn't trip the box (as it was wired entirely incorrectly) and because of there being no real earthing, then electrified the whole water system.. There was 240v running throughout taps giving us shocks!!  I have a 4 yr old so we really dodged a bullet.. Scared the blazes out of the missus and I .  So we've just spend a huge chunk on reputable electricians and have a safe house again. Whew....  On the plus side my garage with the railway now has a good supply, it's own trips and infinitely better lighting.

So I'd liketo get my hands around the throat of the lazy incompetent ********* who Pretended to know what he was doing and put my daughters life at risk..  Normal n scale posts should recommence soon

Graham

Graham
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on December 04, 2011, 10:02:13 AM
Wowsers!   :o  That's terrible!!!!  It can be quite scary what other people do.  In my house there were a few things that were quite dangerous and against regulations.  The worst thing was where they had put the hall light switch in the hall (as it was in the lounge for some reason), but they had just snipped the cable, and left it live in the box in the wall.  Luckily I have a 240v tester, and it beeped before I touched it.  Never would have dreamt it was live!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: 4x2 on December 04, 2011, 11:33:46 AM
My dads car was attacked by youths last night, for no reason other than just for a laugh.... Luckily i heard the first kick on my car (good old solid audi - no damage) and looked out the window just as the wing mirror on my dad's car was kicked - I bolted out the front door to confront them and was met with verbal abuse and threats of violence, undeterd i had my 10 pence worth, as they walked up the road I phoned the police and they were there in 6 minutes ! I then spent an hour filing in forms and describing what happened.

They have been arrested, just waiting for more info....

That was my saturday night ruined because some lowlife get's his 'kicks' damaging peoples cars for laugh...  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on December 04, 2011, 11:35:51 AM
At least you caught them.  It's so sad when people do this to others.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: findus on December 04, 2011, 12:53:38 PM
Quote from: 4x2ybecauseican on December 04, 2011, 11:33:46 AM
My dads car was attacked by youths last night, for no reason other than just for a laugh.... Luckily i heard the first kick on my car (good old solid audi - no damage) and looked out the window just as the wing mirror on my dad's car was kicked - I bolted out the front door to confront them and was met with verbal abuse and threats of violence, undeterd i had my 10 pence worth, as they walked up the road I phoned the police and they were there in 6 minutes ! I then spent an hour filing in forms and describing what happened.

They have been arrested, just waiting for more info....

That was my saturday night ruined because some lowlife get's his 'kicks' damaging peoples cars for laugh...  >:( >:( >:(


That is terrible but a normal thing to happen in most towns now. its hard to try and stay away but sometimes is best as you hear gangs attack back and end up putting people in hospital or much worse.
im glad you are ok and not in this case hurt!


Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: 4x2 on December 04, 2011, 11:46:58 PM
To be honest i wanted to knock their lights out... >:(  But that would make me as bad as them, so i just sucked it up (the rage that is...) and called the police. I'm sure they'll get away with it, but enough was enough i had to do something - i refuse to be walked over in my own street !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 05, 2011, 09:11:25 PM
Seems to me that Corrie has finished and there's bugger all else on, so everyone and their brother has fired up their computers - makes mine soooo slooowww :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: 4x2 on December 05, 2011, 09:15:15 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on December 05, 2011, 09:11:25 PM
Seems to me that Corrie has finished and there's bugger all else on, so everyone and their brother has fired up their computers - makes mine soooo slooowww :thumbsdown:
I going downstairs to get a hot choc, some bickies and my family guy dvd - you can have my space for a bit !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on December 05, 2011, 09:22:50 PM
Quote from: 4x2ybecauseican on December 05, 2011, 09:15:15 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on December 05, 2011, 09:11:25 PM
Seems to me that Corrie has finished and there's bugger all else on, so everyone and their brother has fired up their computers - makes mine soooo slooowww :thumbsdown:
I going downstairs to get a hot choc, some bickies and my family guy dvd - you can have my space for a bit !

:smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on December 05, 2011, 10:45:03 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on December 05, 2011, 09:11:25 PM
Seems to me that Corrie has finished and there's bugger all else on, so everyone and their brother has fired up their computers - makes mine soooo slooowww :thumbsdown:

Did you not know there was a prog on BBC4 about trams and very good it was as well  :thumbsup:

p.s. I am an only child so you can't blame my brother  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on December 05, 2011, 10:59:04 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on December 05, 2011, 10:45:03 PM
Did you not know there was a prog on BBC4 about trams and very good it was as well  :thumbsup:
Didn't know about that  >:( would have watched it if I had been told it was on .
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on December 05, 2011, 11:05:55 PM
Quote from: Oldman on December 05, 2011, 10:59:04 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on December 05, 2011, 10:45:03 PM
Did you not know there was a prog on BBC4 about trams and very good it was as well  :thumbsup:
Didn't know about that  >:( would have watched it if I had been told it was on .

It is repeated later on at 12-30am till 1-30am if that's not past your bedtime  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on December 05, 2011, 11:11:43 PM
Quote from: Oldman on December 05, 2011, 10:59:04 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on December 05, 2011, 10:45:03 PM
Did you not know there was a prog on BBC4 about trams and very good it was as well  :thumbsup:
Didn't know about that  >:( would have watched it if I had been told it was on .

But but you'd have noticed it when the  Only Connect final was finishing if you had any TV taste 8)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on December 05, 2011, 11:32:48 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on December 05, 2011, 11:11:43 PM
Quote from: Oldman on December 05, 2011, 10:59:04 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on December 05, 2011, 10:45:03 PM
Did you not know there was a prog on BBC4 about trams and very good it was as well  :thumbsup:
Didn't know about that  >:( would have watched it if I had been told it was on .

But but you'd have noticed it when the  Only Connect final was finishing if you had any TV taste 8)

Just realised we were watching Charlie Boorman in Canada,and yes scotsoft your right the repeat is past my bed time. :sleep:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: cookiescrumble on December 06, 2011, 04:20:01 PM
This sort of thing makes me really sad  :'(

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2070562/Muslim-girl-gang-kicked-Rhea-Page-head-yelling-kill-white-slag-FREED.html

:thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on December 06, 2011, 04:35:21 PM
Quote from: cookiescrumble on December 06, 2011, 04:20:01 PM
This sort of thing makes me really sad  :'(

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2070562/Muslim-girl-gang-kicked-Rhea-Page-head-yelling-kill-white-slag-FREED.html

:thumbsdown:

I got as far as the words "Daily" and "Mail" before concluding the chances of it being remotely related to reality where probably miniscule. If you wan the whole story you might want to try the Daily Mail Watch forum instead ...

Sorry but the Daily Mail and reality is something I find akin to the Cross Country train timetable. There may be some theoretical connection but don't bet on making it..





Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on December 06, 2011, 04:49:01 PM
Wandering dangerously into the world of politics methinks.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: klaatu on December 06, 2011, 05:01:50 PM
Quote from: cookiescrumble on December 06, 2011, 04:20:01 PM
This sort of thing makes me really sad  :'(
Me too. But don't give up hope; the NOTW has gone, it can't be long before the Daily Mail goes too.

Steve
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: moogle on December 06, 2011, 10:06:34 PM
Quote from: Oldman on December 05, 2011, 10:59:04 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on December 05, 2011, 10:45:03 PM
Did you not know there was a prog on BBC4 about trams and very good it was as well  :thumbsup:
Didn't know about that  >:( would have watched it if I had been told it was on .

Don't be  :( as its available on iPlayer until 03.29 am next Thursday (15th)  :thumbsup:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b017zqw8/Time_Shift_Series_11_The_Golden_Age_of_Trams_A_Streetcar_Named_Desire/ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b017zqw8/Time_Shift_Series_11_The_Golden_Age_of_Trams_A_Streetcar_Named_Desire/)

And yes, it was very good  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on December 08, 2011, 09:41:16 AM
My wife missed the postman yesterday, so when I came home to a red card saying 'Sorry we missed you' I wasn't pleased!  That was for the 4CEP that I've been waiting for. :thumbsdown:  Oh well, redelivered for Friday now. ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on December 08, 2011, 10:27:39 AM
Quote from: moogle on December 06, 2011, 10:06:34 PM
Quote from: Oldman on December 05, 2011, 10:59:04 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on December 05, 2011, 10:45:03 PM
Did you not know there was a prog on BBC4 about trams and very good it was as well  :thumbsup:
Didn't know about that  >:( would have watched it if I had been told it was on .

Don't be  :( as its available on iPlayer until 03.29 am next Thursday (15th)  :thumbsup:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b017zqw8/Time_Shift_Series_11_The_Golden_Age_of_Trams_A_Streetcar_Named_Desire/ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b017zqw8/Time_Shift_Series_11_The_Golden_Age_of_Trams_A_Streetcar_Named_Desire/)

And yes, it was very good  :)
Watched it last night on BBC4 .
was very interesting.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Avis1434 on December 08, 2011, 03:49:43 PM
Brought back a few childhood memories of travelling on the trams in Glasgow when going to Kelvin Hall to see the circus Awwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!! :'( :'(

In that case I should have commented in the Happy thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

D'oh!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: malfoy on December 09, 2011, 10:04:06 AM
One of my pet peeves.. people who honk unnecessarily!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on December 09, 2011, 11:58:17 AM
Quote from: malfoy on December 09, 2011, 10:04:06 AM
One of my pet peeves.. people who honk unnecessarily!

Would those be the ones that don't use deoderant and take big rucksacks into shows ?

<rapid exit stage left>
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on December 09, 2011, 02:29:59 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on December 09, 2011, 11:58:17 AM
Quote from: malfoy on December 09, 2011, 10:04:06 AM
One of my pet peeves.. people who honk unnecessarily!

Would those be the ones that don't use deoderant and take big rucksacks into shows ?

<rapid exit stage left>

LOL  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on December 09, 2011, 07:47:37 PM
Quote from: Mustermark on December 09, 2011, 02:29:59 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on December 09, 2011, 11:58:17 AM
Quote from: malfoy on December 09, 2011, 10:04:06 AM
One of my pet peeves.. people who honk unnecessarily!

Would those be the ones that don't use deoderant and take big rucksacks into shows ?

<rapid exit stage left>

LOL  :smiley-laughing:

Crikey we get them over here in Oz as well.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on December 10, 2011, 12:37:20 PM
Got the 4CEP out of it's boxes, and I'm ready to put the stickers on I had made for them.  Can I find them anywhere?  NO!!! :'( :'( :'(

Cracking looking model though.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on December 14, 2011, 12:40:48 PM
Currys/PCWorld. Went there last week to buy my missus a laptop for Xmas. I asked an assistant if they had the laptop. She started yakking on about some mobile phone offers??? Another chappie checked his computer stock. They didn't have the one I'd seen on their website.
"When will you be getting them in?"
"Don't know. Sold out here. They're in stock at our other stores. PCWorld at North Shields gets everything first."
"You're a computer shop. Don't you have an automatic computer operated ordering system?"
"Yes, but it's slow and we have to wait for deliveries. We can order it for you, but you'll have to pay up front."
I told them I'd come back on Saturday.

Went back on Saturday. Asked about two other laptops. They weren't in stock either, but that didn't stop them trying to sell insurance for them before they checked the stock. I walked out of the shop.

Went to their shop in the Metro Centre on Sunday. (Where has the store directory gone?) Asked about two other laptops. They weren't in stock either.
So there you have it. A computer shop that doesn't sell computers. No wonder their share price is going down the tubes. I'm never going back to them!

Went to Argos and bought a Toshiba Satellite with good specs and £30.00 cheaper than similar ones in CurrysPCWorld. Why they changed the usually reliable Dixons stores to Currys I'll never know.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 14, 2011, 06:05:24 PM
What cr*ppy service ::)
At least you ended up with a Toshiba - our IT bloke reckons they're the dogs dangly bits :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on December 14, 2011, 06:15:39 PM
PC Pitstop tests show it as in the worlds top 12% of portable computers. :-)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davieb on December 14, 2011, 08:46:11 PM
just tried to have a nother bash with my airbrush and found it was not going according to plan  ???
traced problem to a bit of muck in the nozzle so removed it to give it a clean and the "carpet monster" ate it  :'(

cant find the thing anywhere so i'm not impressed with myself at the moment  >:(

dave  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 14, 2011, 08:57:29 PM
Quote from: davieb on December 14, 2011, 08:46:11 PM
the "carpet monster" ate it  :'(


dave  :thumbsdown:

It wasn't a badger by any chance ::) :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davieb on December 14, 2011, 09:15:52 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on December 14, 2011, 08:57:29 PM
Quote from: davieb on December 14, 2011, 08:46:11 PM
the "carpet monster" ate it  :'(


dave  :thumbsdown:

It wasn't a badger by any chance ::) :smiley-laughing:

:smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:

crisis over  ;D

tried the easy way to find it  ???
shoes and socks off and walk round barefoot and wait till it sticks in your foot which it did after about 10 secs

now how to remove it from me foot  ;D  ;D  :smiley-laughing:

dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on December 14, 2011, 09:35:27 PM
Quote from: davieb on December 14, 2011, 08:46:11 PM
just tried to have a nother bash with my airbrush and found it was not going according to plan  ???
traced problem to a bit of muck in the nozzle so removed it to give it a clean and the "carpet monster" ate it  :'(

cant find the thing anywhere so i'm not impressed with myself at the moment  >:(

dave  :thumbsdown:

I empty the Dyson and give the floor a good vacuum.  Then (because I don't vacuum for any other reason) I sift through all the bits of sprue, cat hair, general crap and lost detailing parts till I find what I couldn't manage without.

A Treasure Hunt, as I call it.

It has to be the Dyson with the roller brush for me - the little dustbuster I bought for that very purpose is totally useless at picking up anything out of the carpet but fluff.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on December 14, 2011, 09:51:47 PM
I get annoyed when pedestrians get to a Pelican crossing and although there's nothing coming they press the button to cross and immediately cross anyway,the motorist arrives to a red light and no one in sight.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on December 14, 2011, 11:24:00 PM
As a pedestrian it's often hard to tell.

Swansea motorists seem to have adapted to the problem by driving through red lights when that occurs, but then some Swansea drivers are special.. really special. Maybe you can still get points removed from your licenses for a fee in the local pub or something.

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pete Mc on December 14, 2011, 11:29:02 PM
How do all,my rant of today is;

I don't have a standard broadband connection for my pc,so what I do have is a mobile broadband dongle from O2.Now this costs me £15 per month or for 3 gigs of tinternet.

Unfortunately,I exhausted my download limit several days before the month had passed.Now I'm into the new months download limit and at the moment I can't even get online.It goes to the O2 welcome page but just won't let me use any of the sites that have been bookmarked,even ones I don't regularly use or have bookmarked.This has been going on now for the last 3 days and am getting pig sick of it.Normally I don't have a problem and can't even say that the bad weather we haven't had has torn down a transmitter or whatever they're called.

At the moment I'm restricted to browsing on my android phone,but as I promised to e-mail the pictures of the W1 hush hush which I took at Wigan on saturday to Newportnobby for posting on here,I am just a bit embarrassed,frustrated and very annoyed that I can't fulfill this minor task right now.

Sorry Mike,I'll keep trying though.Pics are uploaded from my camera to my pc and ready for compiling an e-mail.

I will continue to endeavour to complete this task as these are really great pics.

I also had a mad idea of starting a layout thread and setting up a photobucket account,but can't at the moment.Still,I finish work on saturday till after christmas so I think I may have plenty of time to have a crack at this.

I may have to put something on the happy thread about this as well,when I get on tinternet and me chrimbo break.
Pete
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on December 14, 2011, 11:38:07 PM
Quote from: Pete Mc on December 14, 2011, 11:29:02 PM
Unfortunately,I exhausted my download limit several days before the month had passed.Now I'm into the new months download limit and at the moment I can't even get online.It goes to the O2 welcome page but just won't let me use any of the sites that have been bookmarked,even ones I don't regularly use or have bookmarked.This has been going on now for the last 3 days and am getting pig sick of it.Normally I don't have a problem and can't even say that the bad weather we haven't had has torn down a transmitter or whatever they're called.

Or they've blocked you or similar ?

Is there a signal strength meter with the app for the dongle and also if you look at your network setting stuff do you have an IP Address assigned for the dongle when you try and use it. If the answer is yes then I suspect you need to have a 'discussion' with O2.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pete Mc on December 15, 2011, 01:55:06 AM
Looks like a discussion with O2 is imminent then because signal strength is ok,I'm not blocked either,a text was sent to the dongle to tell me I have full download available so its not this and I have a bank mini statement from an ATM stating that money for payment went out as per every other month.It just doesn't connect up to the internet,it tries but just will not connect and comes up with the standard Internet Explorer error page.I've done a check and all cabling and whatnot is fine so there is nothing wrong with my pc,apart from it being old and not too powerful.

I will try again when I get home from work tomorrow night and if I get no joy,I'm off to the O2 shop in town on friday.I don't want to waste any of my day off messing about like this but if there is a reason why there is no connection it will be for the greater good for me.

Got some youtube stuff to catch up on as well.
Pete
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on December 15, 2011, 07:45:57 AM
Might be worth looking here......
http://shop.virginmedia.com/broadband/up-to-10mb.html (http://shop.virginmedia.com/broadband/up-to-10mb.html)

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on December 16, 2011, 08:47:03 PM
Morgage underwriters who have said 'probably' to my son for the last 3 weeks and still  wont sign the paperwork off >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on December 16, 2011, 09:02:27 PM
Amazon & Yodel

Ordered a food processor, apparently it was delivered Tuesday and left in my porch.

Phoned Amazon today- name blah order number blah blah, order tracking, ah yes says I, can you see what it says?  Amazon thing - yes, delivered Tuesday, left in you porch, Yodel are authorised to leave packages in a secure place (definitely a hint of smugness)

Says I - don't have a porch, only a front step, clearly visible from the road.

Amazon thing - ah! .......... we will interview the driver and get his side of the story

Says I - I still wont have a porch! never have had, probably never will have unless Amazon want to pay for one so that Yodel have somewhere to leave my Amazon deliveries so they are not on view to everyone passing my house!

Amazon thing - we will get back to you as soon as we get a reply from Yodel, is there anything else I can help you with?

I had now lost the will to live and just gently replaced the receiver back in its cradle, crawled into a corner and wept gently for 5 minutes before getting the dinner on for me and the missus

Later, I went back on to Amazon and ordered a cd, at least I know it will fit through my letterbox  ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on December 16, 2011, 09:07:30 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on December 15, 2011, 07:45:57 AM
Might be worth looking here......
http://shop.virginmedia.com/broadband/up-to-10mb.html (http://shop.virginmedia.com/broadband/up-to-10mb.html)

Allan

Crikey just checked your Virgin link, you people back home are very lucky, we in Australia are still back in the dark ages, 10mb speed OMG I think I am doing OK if I get a download to reach 600kb, 120gig Broadband limit with local and interstate phone calls cost me $90au or 45 quid UK, now I am angry.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on December 16, 2011, 09:29:32 PM
I upgraded to 30mbps for less money than I was paying for 10mbps.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on December 16, 2011, 09:39:43 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on December 16, 2011, 09:02:27 PM
Amazon & Yodel

Ordered a food processor, apparently it was delivered Tuesday and left in my porch.

Phoned Amazon today- name blah order number blah blah, order tracking, ah yes says I, can you see what it says?  Amazon thing - yes, delivered Tuesday, left in you porch, Yodel are authorised to leave packages in a secure place (definitely a hint of smugness)

Says I - don't have a porch, only a front step, clearly visible from the road.

Amazon thing - ah! .......... we will interview the driver and get his side of the story

Says I - I still wont have a porch! never have had, probably never will have unless Amazon want to pay for one so that Yodel have somewhere to leave my Amazon deliveries so they are not on view to everyone passing my house!

Amazon thing - we will get back to you as soon as we get a reply from Yodel, is there anything else I can help you with?

I had now lost the will to live and just gently replaced the receiver back in its cradle, crawled into a corner and wept gently for 5 minutes before getting the dinner on for me and the missus

Later, I went back on to Amazon and ordered a cd, at least I know it will fit through my letterbox  ::)

Considering that the forum members here only consist of a very small proportion of the general public,and you are at least the third one that's had trouble with fictitious deliveries made, it'll be a wonder if Yodel stay in business for long with all the complaints.It's getting to the point that it might be worth phoning a supplier up first and asking who they are using as a courier before actually ordering.

I'll certainly be asking Amazon who they're sending stuff with next time I request special delivery, and Hattons will be only ordered using the post office.

That's just plain disgusting that Yodel are allowed to leave a package without a signature,even the GPO are going down that route when the postman can actually sign for a recorded delivery.

Really does make you wonder what you're actually paying for.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on December 16, 2011, 10:06:13 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on December 16, 2011, 09:02:27 PM
Later, I went back on to Amazon and ordered a cd, at least I know it will fit through my letterbox  ::)

Will this be the letterbox in your porch?  :evil:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:

I think I can top that, I had my passport posted through my letterbox after I had paid for "signed for recorded delivery".
When I rang them to ask who had signed for it and at what time?
The gentleman I spoke to told me that I had signed for it and he told me a time.
The guy got rather flustered when I told him the day and time he claims I signed for it, I was actually in the Freeman hospital, out cold on an operating table, having surgery on my heart and would he like the name and number of the vascular surgeon who did the operation to confirm that?

John
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on December 16, 2011, 11:32:50 PM
Quote from: oldrailbug on December 16, 2011, 09:07:30 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on December 15, 2011, 07:45:57 AM
Might be worth looking here......
http://shop.virginmedia.com/broadband/up-to-10mb.html (http://shop.virginmedia.com/broadband/up-to-10mb.html)

Allan

Crikey just checked your Virgin link, you people back home are very lucky, we in Australia are still back in the dark ages, 10mb speed OMG I think I am doing OK if I get a download to reach 600kb, 120gig Broadband limit with local and interstate phone calls cost me $90au or 45 quid UK, now I am angry.

Its the UK folks that are lucky. i had to pay E250 to have a sat system bolted to my house and it costs E20 a month for a link that dies every time we get a thunderstor.....m one happening now.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 17, 2011, 01:07:26 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on December 16, 2011, 10:06:13 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on December 16, 2011, 09:02:27 PM
Later, I went back on to Amazon and ordered a cd, at least I know it will fit through my letterbox  ::)

Will this be the letterbox in your porch?  :evil:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:

I think I can top that, I had my passport posted through my letterbox after I had paid for "signed for recorded delivery".
When I rang them to ask who had signed for it and at what time?
The gentleman I spoke to told me that I had signed for it and he told me a time.
The guy got rather flustered when I told him the day and time he claims I signed for it, I was actually in the Freeman hospital, out cold on an operating table, having surgery on my heart and would he like the name and number of the vascular surgeon who did the operation to confirm that?

John

I hope all is OK now, John :wave: You really need to sort out your doppelganger though ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on December 17, 2011, 03:15:00 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on December 16, 2011, 09:39:43 PM
Considering that the forum members here only consist of a very small proportion of the general public,and you are at least the third one that's had trouble with fictitious deliveries made, it'll be a wonder if Yodel stay in business for long with all the complaints.It's getting to the point that it might be worth phoning a supplier up first and asking who they are using as a courier before actually ordering.

So much of this depends on the area and the actual teams. Clearly they have a compliance and standard problems in some areas. However the Royal Snail has also now got rid of a lot of the fixed round arrangements it had so soon random posties and temps will be trying to deliver all over the place, and we can all guess how that will end up !

In fact I thought that was *why* they used to have fixed rounds !


Quote
That's just plain disgusting that Yodel are allowed to leave a package without a signature,even the GPO are going down that route when the postman can actually sign for a recorded delivery.

Really does make you wonder what you're actually paying for.

The Royal Mail chief executive and board members salaries. Just look them up... not exactly minimum wage !

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Claude Dreyfus on December 17, 2011, 06:27:30 PM
My turn for a little grumble.

Since October I have been working in London, which involves me commuting up to London Bridge station and participating in that throng that heads across the bridge into the City. It's morning, it's not that warm (at this time of year), and quite frankly we all want to be in our nice warm offices wrapped around a cup of coffee; yet there are those who do not share this goal.

I can forgive the freebee paper distributors; they have a job to do, and I can more or less restrain myself from punching the annoyingly jolly woman in the telly tubby outfit, because even I can accept she does sort of lighten the mood (even if I'm not sure what she is advertising), but two things really get me.

1 - TV camera crew. I know the tide of commuters across London Bridge is one of London's iconic sites, but there are rules here. Those travelling against the flow either walk by the road, or by the parapets; never in the middle. As this is universally understood by those who even spend a minute by the bridge, why oh why do film crews, either professional or student, insist on standing right in the middle of the flow? You've got eyes haven't you? Even worse when there is a mob of them with a presenter...I nearly walked into Gordon Ramsey little while ago pratting around in the middle of the walk-way; 'GET OUT OF THE WAY MAN!'.

The problem is they don't stay still, so the flow cannot evenly pass around them, they stay in vaguely the same place, but mill around... At least when I hear the words 'believe in Jesus! [pause] Jesus is here to save you!', I know the evangelist is out and can adjust my direction accordingly - he stands dead still in the same place.

2 - People who insist on using their blackberrys or texting whilst walking. You are not concentrating, or looking where you are going. You keep getting in everyone's way and the next one to barge into me runs the risk in having your infernal phone grabbed chucked off the bridge into the Thames.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on December 17, 2011, 06:41:59 PM
Quote from: Claude Dreyfus on December 17, 2011, 06:27:30 PM
People who insist on using their blackberrys or texting whilst walking. You are not concentrating, or looking where you are going.

That's not so bad Claude - here in the US the oblivious s*ds do that while driving!  >:(

But Gordon Ramsey is annoying enough, without pratting about in your way as you try to get to work.  Hope he's gone by the end of the day and doesn't make you miss your train.  I'm sure you wouldn't want to miss Kitchen Nightmares!  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on December 17, 2011, 06:46:57 PM
Quote from: Mustermark on December 17, 2011, 06:41:59 PM
That's not so bad Claude - here in the US the oblivious s*ds do that while driving!  >:(

Some of ours still do although its now illegal and they come down hard on the idiots. It's not just motorists though - there's a lot of data starting to appear on pedestrian caused accidents from smartphone stupidity.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: 4x2 on December 17, 2011, 06:51:05 PM
Ipod Zombies are my biggest hate, closely followed by chicken chasers (50cc scooters) - both should be shot on sight !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on December 17, 2011, 07:52:09 PM
Quote from: 4x2 on December 17, 2011, 06:51:05 PM
Ipod Zombies are my biggest hate, closely followed by chicken chasers (50cc scooters) - both should be shot on sight !

Crikey that would make the bloke next door to me happy he just bought a little Yamaha 50cc Put Put (http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/artists/snoozer/German.gif)

As for the selfish folks  that shove the phone in their ear or text while driving they should have their license suspended and their cars crushed (http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/artists/snoozer/mitsu.gif)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on December 17, 2011, 09:38:35 PM
Quote from: oldrailbug on December 17, 2011, 07:52:09 PM
As for the selfish folks  that shove the phone in their ear or text while driving they should have their license suspended and their cars crushed (http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/artists/snoozer/mitsu.gif)

Do you plan to let them out of the car before the crushing  8)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on December 17, 2011, 10:49:37 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on December 17, 2011, 09:38:35 PM
Quote from: oldrailbug on December 17, 2011, 07:52:09 PM
As for the selfish folks  that shove the phone in their ear or text while driving they should have their license suspended and their cars crushed (http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/artists/snoozer/mitsu.gif)

Do you plan to let them out of the car before the crushing  8)

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: bbdave on December 18, 2011, 08:45:28 AM
As i understood the law your not supposed to have a screen visible from the driving position or anything on the windscreen impeding the drivers view, so how come sat. navs. are legal stuck to the centre of the windscreen? with said navigational numpty typing in postcodes etc on the move!

These should be made illegal to use while on the move if you don't know where your going you don't deserve to get there!

Dave
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 18, 2011, 10:27:20 AM
Why is it that people drive to the supermarket, park up, get a trolley, and then once inside the building they lose all sense of spatial awareness? Would they abandon their car in the middle of the road? Probably not, but it's OK to leave their trolley in the middle of an aisle while they go off searching for something. Why do they meet up and start their jibber-jabber at the top of an aisle so nobody else can get past. Why do they go to the supermarket to smack their kids? I'm sorry but I know what I want, I know where it is, and I just want in and out as soon as possible with minimal bruising/lacerations. Grrrrrrrr. Anyone got a Taser for sale?  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on December 18, 2011, 10:31:36 AM
That all sounds fairly familiar, not forgetting the ones that drift off to the side to look at something while their trolley sticks out right across the aisle behind them  ::)

I find a good hard bash with my trolley gets the message across, especially when it jolts their hand that is still hanging onto it, and the ones left unattended in the middle of the aisle get a hefty shove so that the offending owner has to search for it when they realise it's gone missing  :thumbsup:


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 18, 2011, 10:36:12 AM
Quote from: Sprintex on December 18, 2011, 10:31:36 AM
That all sounds fairly familiar, not forgetting the ones that drift off to the side to look at something while their trolley sticks out right across the aisle behind them  ::)

I find a good hard bash with my trolley gets the message across, especially when it jolts their hand that is still hanging onto it, and the ones left unattended in the middle of the aisle get a hefty shove so that the offending owner has to search for it when they realise it's gone missing  :thumbsup:

Paul
:evil: :evil: I didn't want to fess up to what I do, but I can see I'm not alone :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: H on December 18, 2011, 11:27:52 AM
This 'angry' thread must be one of the biggest on the forum. We must be a bunch of miserable and unhappy sorts. I wonder what sort of response a 'happy and delighted' thread would get.  ;D

H.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: grid078 on December 18, 2011, 11:32:12 AM
Quote from: H on December 18, 2011, 11:27:52 AM
This 'angry' thread must be one of the biggest on the forum. We must be a bunch of miserable and unhappy sorts. I wonder what sort of response a 'happy and delighted' thread would get.  ;D

H.

Maybe you could start the "Happy and delighted" thread H  :smiley-laughing:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: brbluewill on December 18, 2011, 11:45:51 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on December 18, 2011, 10:27:20 AM
Why is it that people drive to the supermarket, park up, get a trolley, and then once inside the building they lose all sense of spatial awareness? Would they abandon their car in the middle of the road? Probably not, but it's OK to leave their trolley in the middle of an aisle while they go off searching for something. Why do they meet up and start their jibber-jabber at the top of an aisle so nobody else can get past. Why do they go to the supermarket to smack their kids? I'm sorry but I know what I want, I know where it is, and I just want in and out as soon as possible with minimal bruising/lacerations. Grrrrrrrr. Anyone got a Taser for sale?  >:(
i am so happy its not just me that experiences this only last week this woman pushed herself and her trolley past me while i was getting something off the shelves instead of going round me ::) she was not too impressed with what i said to her ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 18, 2011, 11:50:24 AM
Quote from: grid078 on December 18, 2011, 11:32:12 AM
Quote from: H on December 18, 2011, 11:27:52 AM
This 'angry' thread must be one of the biggest on the forum. We must be a bunch of miserable and unhappy sorts. I wonder what sort of response a 'happy and delighted' thread would get.  ;D

H.

Maybe you could start the "Happy and delighted" thread H  :smiley-laughing:  :thumbsup:

We already have a 'Happy Thread' but as has been discussed in several places (not least reviews of models) we do like having a moan more than we are happy. This accounts for the size of each thread :computerangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on December 18, 2011, 02:29:05 PM
Its the delights of becoming Grumpy old gits, Perhaps we should become the Victor Meldrew club.  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on December 18, 2011, 04:04:22 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on December 18, 2011, 02:29:05 PM
Its the delights of becoming Grumpy old gits, Perhaps we should become the Victor Meldrew club.  :smiley-laughing:

Maybe that's what we should rename this thread  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on December 18, 2011, 05:20:00 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on December 18, 2011, 04:04:22 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on December 18, 2011, 02:29:05 PM
Its the delights of becoming Grumpy old gits, Perhaps we should become the Victor Meldrew club.  :smiley-laughing:

Maybe that's what we should rename this thread  :smiley-laughing:
As a mod with Tanks permission can you try it. >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on December 20, 2011, 11:02:12 AM
Quote from: grid078 on December 18, 2011, 11:32:12 AM
Quote from: H on December 18, 2011, 11:27:52 AM
We must be a bunch of miserable and unhappy sorts.

H.

Maybe you could start the "Happy and delighted" thread H  :smiley-laughing:  :thumbsup:
8)  Oooooh Ive been recognised at last. Thanks H :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on December 20, 2011, 11:05:02 AM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on December 18, 2011, 02:29:05 PM
Its the delights of becoming Grumpy old gits, Perhaps we should become the Victor Meldrew club.  :smiley-laughing:
Oh I joined that years ago  ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 20, 2011, 09:38:12 PM
My broadband (from dear ole BT) is so poor tonight that I am giving up and will try again in the morning. I've reset the hub at least 4 times, every time restarting my laptop and it's pathetic. It's like it's a crap night on the telly and the whole of Leyland is busy tweeting or facebooking (whatever). Grrr >:( :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on December 20, 2011, 09:43:45 PM
I'm on BT Infinity......well worth it. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pete Mc on December 24, 2011, 05:24:26 PM
Been in our latest Morrisons this afternoon,it was absolutely heaving.I'v never seen so many people pushing full trolleys around.Its a wonder there was anything left on the shelves.

Anyway,when I got to the checkout,I thought I'd use the self service checkout.What a mistake that was.Every item I had barring the tins of roses I had bought made the light on the machine go from green to red,meaning the woman who supervises and checks no one is nicking owt had to keep coming to reset the damn thing.

Then,on the way out,people can't seem to wait a moment for the next segment of the revolving doors to come round,which makes em stop,then start,then stop again and again and again....
:NGaugersRule: :Class37:
Pete
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on December 24, 2011, 05:44:34 PM
I'm NOT a supermarket employee. I'd want a 20% discount for using the self service checkout. It annoys me when they have a dedicated person telling you that the self service checkout is free. Put another ordinary till in instead for goodness sake and get that person to operate it! Our local Wilkinson's replaced nearly all of their tills with the self service ones. Couldn't have been very popular, or the shoplifting was going up, because most are back to proper tills now.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 24, 2011, 09:07:10 PM
Whenever an employee points me to a self-service machine, I just remind them the machine is doing them out of a job ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on December 24, 2011, 09:37:16 PM
Because of long lineups at the checkouts at this time of the year I decided to use the self service machines for the first time, to be honest I felt bloody stupid thinking why in the hell am I doing this, I actually felt like a member of staff doing a job, the way that thing was talking to me and me telling it to get stuffed was even worse  (http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/madhouse/dash1.gif)

I agree with Poliss 100%  give us a discount on our groceries and I may start using it again
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 24, 2011, 09:40:11 PM
Quote from: oldrailbug on December 24, 2011, 09:37:16 PM
Because of long lineups at the checkouts at this time of the year I decided to use the self service machines for the first time, to be honest I felt bloody stupid thinking why in the hell am I doing this, I actually felt like a member of staff doing a job, the way that thing was talking to me and me telling it to get stuffed was even worse  (http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/madhouse/dash1.gif)

I agree with Poliss 100%  give us a discount on our groceries and I may start using it again

That's sending me to bed with an enduring image Dave - you telling the machine to get stuffed :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on December 29, 2011, 03:38:16 PM
A few weeks ago went to B&Q to by a plank of wood. Directed to the self service checkout and the fun started. Scanned bar code and machine told me to put it on the scale. After waving said plank about, nearly beheading three customers and taking out a light fitting I was rescued by a staff member. Serves them right for having the self service tills open on Pensioner's Wednesday!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on December 29, 2011, 04:15:52 PM
Possible that you bought the inventor of the self service checkout Kipper?  ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on December 29, 2011, 04:24:19 PM
Well, at least it is no more, just some fretwork and sawdust!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on December 29, 2011, 04:28:03 PM
Can't find my saw to cut up the timber for the frame of my new baseboard for Lyne End
looked everywhere it should be and a few other places as well. ??? ??? >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on December 29, 2011, 04:42:02 PM
Quote from: Oldman on December 29, 2011, 04:28:03 PM
Can't find my saw to cut up the timber for the frame of my new baseboard for Lyne End
looked everywhere it should be and a few other places as well. ??? ??? >:( >:( >:(

Its not here so it must be with my hammer , screwdriver and numerous odd socks.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on December 29, 2011, 05:26:09 PM
Quote from: Oldman on December 29, 2011, 04:28:03 PM
Can't find my saw to cut up the timber for the frame of my new baseboard for Lyne End
looked everywhere it should be and a few other places as well. ??? ??? >:( >:( >:(
Buy a new one and you'll find it straight away :)

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 29, 2011, 06:12:11 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on December 29, 2011, 04:42:02 PM
Quote from: Oldman on December 29, 2011, 04:28:03 PM
Can't find my saw to cut up the timber for the frame of my new baseboard for Lyne End
looked everywhere it should be and a few other places as well. ??? ??? >:( >:( >:(

Its not here so it must be with my hammer , screwdriver and numerous odd socks.

Blimey Jerry - too much Verdicchio :beers: You've been putting your tools in the washing machine again, haven't you :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on December 29, 2011, 06:28:59 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on December 29, 2011, 05:26:09 PM
Buy a new one and you'll find it straight away :)
Allan
Cheers for that, probably find the other 3 that have been replaced for the same reason. :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on December 29, 2011, 07:49:49 PM


Blimey Jerry - too much Verdicchio :beers: You've been putting your tools in the washing machine again, haven't you :smiley-laughing:
[/quote]

Thats what the strange noise was ! :smiley-laughing:
Plus there is no such phrase as too much verdicchio  :thumbsup:
Happy New Year  :wave:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lui on December 29, 2011, 09:41:12 PM
I am so sick of that go compare advert and that blob singing. its got to the stage where you turn the channel over to stop listening and its starts on that one.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on December 29, 2011, 09:44:28 PM
It's better than that ridiculous Diesel 'only the brave' advert.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on December 29, 2011, 10:22:57 PM
Or those f****** meercats (where's the shotgun ......)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 29, 2011, 10:28:22 PM
He's got it :evil:
(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Meerkats2.jpg)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: B757-236GT on December 29, 2011, 10:39:33 PM
I dont mind the meerkats. Virtually every other add just winds me up. Although im playing location spotting in the first choice all inclusive ad. So far ive got the airport and the resort (well half of it as it was filmed in to different places). The rest of the ads are drivel!

Richard
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: poliss on January 02, 2012, 05:42:03 PM
Stop posting new topics and replies. I haven't had time to have my breakfast yet because of all the reading I've had to do!!  >:(

:smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on January 02, 2012, 05:46:14 PM
Oh for a Meerkat edition of 'Quake 3'
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on January 02, 2012, 09:00:03 PM
My elderly parents were visiting my wee brother in Kent at Christmas, Christmas evening my Mum ended up in hospital, on New Years eve they went on one of these coach trips with friends to a hotel in Wigan for NY, the coach broke down, 2 hours later was fixed, broke down again, 2 hours later a replacement arrived, they got to the hotel 4 hours late (about 18:30) but nobody had transferred the luggage which turned up just before 22:00!!  At about 03:00 Dad was rushed to A&E, apparently he was catheterised, given pain killers due to an enlarged prostate and sent back to the hotel  :o  after all he is only 80 and a bit frail!! why bother keeping an eye on him for a bit.

I then smacked a kerb on a slip road on to the A1 on my way back from Yorkshire, buggered my alloy, knocked the weights off it, cut the tyre side wall and will probably have to get the tracking done too  :-X

Happy New Year my a***  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davieb on January 02, 2012, 09:15:44 PM
hi lawrence

sorry to hear about your family problems but the question just has to be asked

Why oh why would your parents want to go to WIGAN for new year i live hear and try not to go to wigan for anything  ???  :-\

and my greatest sympathy goes out to you father having to go to A&E at wigan i am suprised they didn't try to amputate something
i guess he got off lucky

last week i had to take my daughter to wigan hospital as she had food poisoning not a problem for most but she is a type 1 diabetic
so they put her on a glucose drip and a sliding scale insulin injection after a while her sugars had stabalised so they sent her up to a ward for
the night for observation

once on the ward the idiots decided to take her of the insulin as her sugar levels were OK but left her on the GLUCOSE DRIP

well within 2 hours here blood sugars had risen to 34 :o
my daughter tends to get very upperty when her sugars get high and being a 20yr old and head strong she ripped the drips and needles out of her arm and discharged herself

so as you can see the wigan hospital is not the best place to end up at any time of the year

rant over

dave  :wave:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pete Mc on January 05, 2012, 11:29:45 PM
How do,just thought I'd put in my first angry posting of the new year.

Down our way in sunny Doncaster,over the Christmas period,the contractor that empties our wheely bins gave all its binmen an extended holiday which means no domestic bin emptying.Now as we only get our bins emptied once a fortnight,it means everyones bins were overflowing.Added to this was the fact that the last two days its been a bit blowy.So quite a few bins ended up on their sides with refuse on the service road that goes down the backs of our houses.Did the binmen take these spilled bags away?

No,they left them all over the place.The last time our bins were emptied prior to today was Thursday December 22nd.On this day I put my bin out and left it out,purely by accident of course.Anyway,as I had the bin in the kitchen full of rubbish,I went out to put the bag of rubbish in my wheely bin,only to find it wasn't there anymore.So,what I did was take an unused bin from a few houses up from me and use that one.No problem,except for the fact that when I put it out this morning when I went to work.When I got home,after checking that the roof was still on the house after losing a tile last night,I went to see if my bin had reappeared,it hadn't.

So off I went in search of my bin,which after spending around 20-30 minutes walking round the area that I live had proved fruitless.So now,as we speak,I have no wheely bin to put my rubbish in and furthermore,two of my neighbours have also had their bins nicked.

Now in these supposedly difficult times,I could understand stuff thats left outside can go missing,but wheely bins,the mind boggles.

Who in their right mind is that desperate that they need a filthy,uncleaned bin and deprive an innocent homeowner of their right to dispose of their rubbish legally without making a mess of the area in which they live.I would love to hear the answer to this from the empty head who has done this to us,one of which is an eighty year old woman who lives alone.I am only 42 and don't produce that much rubbish,only two bags a fortnight,I recycle a lot of stuff as well but not obsessively I might add.It really does make me mad,people can't keep their hands to themselves.So for now,I'm binless.I will put my rubbish in someone elses bin for the next two weeks,then on collection day,I'll watch the bins emptied to see if it is being used by a neighbouring house that has six foreigners residing in it,then I'll nick it back.

Failing that,I'll have to ring our wondrrful council and see if they'll give me a new one.Incidentally,my old bin os easily identifiable due to it having my house number and street name on it in lettering and paint that was applied by my ex wife who hasn't lived here since 1994.

So I will know its mine when I see it.

Annoyed
:thumbsdown:

Pete
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 06, 2012, 08:15:21 AM
Hi Pete,

Things could be worse - when I lived in Telford it seemed a regualr occurrence that the Binmen found human bodies stuffed into wheely bins :o :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: polo2k on January 06, 2012, 11:35:25 AM
Had a phisio appt booked on Wed that was cancelled and rebooked for 10.45 today due to the phisio having car problems.
I goes out there at 10.30 this morning, dead battery. Borrowed my next door neighbours keys to jump it, bonnet catch jammed.
Que 20 min on the floor with a screw driver jabbing away, culminating with me effing and Jeffing while rattling on the catch as hard as I could muster, eventually got it open and started.
All this from a bloke whos back is that shafted at the moment that I cant tie my shoelaces!

As a result missed my accupuncture, in huge boat loads of pain  :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

Gunna try to nip out for a brew in a a bit with CalneFoxie and hopefully nip to the local model shop too.


And to cap it all my washing machine is making all sorts of bad bearing sounds from the drain pump. just what I need!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pete Mc on January 06, 2012, 09:58:08 PM
Update on the wheely bin situation:

Got home from work and as it were still daylight,I thought I'd have a count of all the tiles that have broken and fallen off the roof over the 21 years I have lived here both at the front and back porrions of the roof,(5 on front section,3 on rear section).

On my arrival at the rear of my house,I looked down the back service road and lo and behold,there in the last minutes of daylight stood my bin,albeit almost full of other peoples rubbish and packaging polystyrene,which was put in the bin with their house number on it.The dollsheads had only.put the two bins out on the wrong day so they now have a fortnight to wait for them to be done again.

I should put a posting in the happy thread now because I don't have to ring up the council to get a new one which is no fun at all.

It was outside the gate of the house being rented out to foreigners.The woman who owns the house lived there for years and is still a friend of mine,so if it goes again,she'll get to know about it.

Pete
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on January 06, 2012, 10:18:05 PM
Thanks Pete for giving me another reason to be living as an ex-pat. It was a public holiday here today and I was disturbed to hear a large lorry in our small village. A bin lorry, collecting the rubbish !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on January 07, 2012, 02:38:43 PM
Final total - 12 panes of greenhouse glass shattered, tomatoes might be a bit late this year  :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on January 07, 2012, 02:40:37 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on January 07, 2012, 02:38:43 PM
tomatoes might be a bit late this year  :(

And taste a little sharp. ;)

Sorry to hear that mate.  How's the new shed held up?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on January 07, 2012, 03:07:21 PM
Quote from: Tank on January 07, 2012, 02:40:37 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on January 07, 2012, 02:38:43 PM
tomatoes might be a bit late this year  :(

And taste a little sharp. ;)

Sorry to hear that mate.  How's the new shed held up?

Shed is fine mate, sod all happening in it though  ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 07, 2012, 04:53:01 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on January 07, 2012, 02:38:43 PM
Final total - 12 panes of greenhouse glass shattered, tomatoes might be a bit late this year  :(

Sorry to hear that, Lawrence - hopefully it's calmed down a lot. The first ever house I bought some smeghead had built a greenhouse underneath an apple tree. WTF were they thinking ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on January 07, 2012, 10:08:32 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on January 07, 2012, 04:53:01 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on January 07, 2012, 02:38:43 PM
Final total - 12 panes of greenhouse glass shattered, tomatoes might be a bit late this year  :(

Sorry to hear that, Lawrence - hopefully it's calmed down a lot. The first ever house I bought some smeghead had built a greenhouse underneath an apple tree. WTF were they thinking ::)

:smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pete Mc on January 09, 2012, 09:59:35 PM
I meant to post this up yesterday after I had got home from work but didn't really have time due to a desire to drink some beer.

Anyhow,whilst at work,going about my business,bus driving,I hit a dog.It was a staffy.I hit him or her whilst doing about 30 mph.The noise it made when the bus hit the dog was akin to hitting a brick wall,it were loud.

After this,I stopped as per the law to look for a dead dog,I didn't find one as it transpired that it ran off yelping.Now what bothers me about all this is,this dog is of the many types and breeds known as dangerous dogs that are meant to be musseled whilst out in public,and kept on a lead so they can be restrained by its owner if they become aggressive.This one was snarling at the bus.I only saw it briefly but I saw it snarling.

Now imagine it was snarling at a small child for a moment.

It went for a 10 ton bus with a view to biting it,that could equally have been someones small child that it decided to attack,obviously it wasn't but my point is its owner was nowhere to be seen,so could not have restrained it.

How monumentally stupid do people have to be to have these types of dogs and not realise that they can be a danger and need to be kept securely locked up.I see the type of people who own these types of dog and use them as a sign of their masculinity.Why not just get a westie or a jack russell.Its a dog after all,and Westies and Jack Russells cost less to feed.

It does wind me up because these same people allow their dogs to poo on paths or anywhere and don't pick up the mess after them.

My mates and some workmates have all said that there'll be a deadhead or crim crying over his injured dog/symbol of hardness probably laying there whimpering,in pain and unable to afford the vets bill.If they can't afford to take care of it,they shouldn't own it.

Pete
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on January 09, 2012, 10:13:33 PM
Crikey 37 pages of angry threads since March 30 2011, must be a lot of cranky people out there  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on January 10, 2012, 03:52:17 PM
Pete, try owning a red Cocker Spaniel (like what I do), you will soon find out that Staffies are whimp dogs in comparison. Anyone wanting to own a Cocker is well advised to go for a mixed colour as the solid colours can have a very nasty nature (too much inbreeding). Trouble is, they can look sweetness and light one minute, then turn nasty the next - I have the scars to prove it, as does my vet!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on January 10, 2012, 04:44:46 PM
Quote from: Pete Mc on January 09, 2012, 09:59:35 PM
How monumentally stupid do people have to be to have these types of dogs and not realise that they can be a danger and need to be kept securely locked up

Almost all dogs can be dangerous though - Alsatians have a terrible reputation of helping themselves to children, and any dog can accidentally do a lot of damage. I've had the dubious pleasure years ago  of having a great dane come *through* a double glazed front door while I was delivering a paper. It was a bit dim and it wanted to play but it made quite a mess and I ended up with several deep cuts from flying glass.

Plus dog poo on places like playing fields leads to kids ending up blind.

In angry thread spirit I'd start not with the odd attack by a dog, but by forcing anyone caught allowing their dog to foul in public to lick it up themselves.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on January 10, 2012, 05:17:28 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on January 10, 2012, 04:44:46 PM
In angry thread spirit I'd start not with the odd attack by a dog, but by forcing anyone caught allowing their dog to foul in public to lick it up themselves.

I like your thinking!  :thumbsup:


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on January 10, 2012, 08:15:53 PM
****** mobile internet. -normally a brilliant signal,was the reason I told BT to >>>>  ...  Speed was faster.
Today when I needed it most the mast went down. 10.30 am finally got 3G back after 9 hours. >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on January 10, 2012, 08:19:41 PM
British Gas telesales people who keep pestering my mobile (although I have never been a British Gas customer!!)

I understand that they have a job to do, but after being told politely once in the morning im not at all interested, why phone back in the afternoon and ask the same question?

Jeeeezzzz!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Cimmerian on January 11, 2012, 08:08:45 AM
There was a dog run over close to our house. The owner and his kids were playing with it on some grass by the main road. The dog ran into the road and got hit by a car. The driver was on his mobile and didn't stop in time. He stopped with the front wheel ON the dog. The police were called and they spent over an hour talking to everyone concerned, leaving the dog under the car! The road was chaos during this time and the dog finally died later on in the afternoon.

I wasn't sure who to get angry with, the owner, the driver or the police. They were all wrong and the poor dog was the one who paid the price
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on January 11, 2012, 08:31:18 AM
I think anyone caught using a mobile phone while driving should get six points,£100.00 fine and the phone confiscated and destroyed there and then,regardless of how important they say their phone is.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on January 11, 2012, 10:47:20 AM
Quote from: Bikeracer on January 11, 2012, 08:31:18 AM
I think anyone caught using a mobile phone while driving should get six points,£100.00 fine and the phone confiscated and destroyed there and then,regardless of how important they say their phone is.

Allan

Try crushing their car while they are sitting in it  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 11, 2012, 03:29:48 PM
As someone who drives around this country for a living (sales manager - all mouth and motorway :angel:) I am totally against the use of mobiles in a car, hands free or not.
Totally agree - crush 'em :evil:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on January 11, 2012, 05:39:57 PM
You want to see the Italians. They speak using their arms , gesticulating etc.. when in a car with the mobile (I think it may be compulsory to use one while driving here) they gesticulate with the arm that ISN'T holding the phone ! Even more scary when its a bloke driving a large truck steering with ????.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: moogle on January 11, 2012, 06:15:43 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on January 11, 2012, 05:39:57 PM
You want to see the Italians. They speak using their arms , gesticulating etc.. when in a car with the mobile (I think it may be compulsory to use one while driving here) they gesticulate with the arm that ISN'T holding the phone ! Even more scary when its a bloke driving a large truck steering with ????.

Jesus!  :o If I ever visit Italy remind me not to drive!  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 11, 2012, 06:31:33 PM
Been there, dunnit.
All you need is the accelerator, horn and main beam lights :evil:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on January 11, 2012, 06:33:57 PM
Quote from: moogle on January 11, 2012, 06:15:43 PM
Jesus!  :o If I ever visit Italy remind me not to drive!  :smiley-laughing:
Your still not safe as a pedestrian in the big cities. Vespa's etc still drive down the pavements to avoid the traffic.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 11, 2012, 06:37:07 PM
Quote from: Oldman on January 11, 2012, 06:33:57 PM
Quote from: moogle on January 11, 2012, 06:15:43 PM
Jesus!  :o If I ever visit Italy remind me not to drive!  :smiley-laughing:
Your still not safe as a pedestrian in the big cities. Vespa's etc still drive down the pavements to avoid the traffic.

And never, ever, think the same 'rules' apply to pedestrian crossings as in the UK. You're just a target ::)
Even if a car stops to let you across, the scooters will get you :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tadpole on January 11, 2012, 07:26:25 PM
Quote from: oldrailbug on January 11, 2012, 10:47:20 AM

Try crushing their car while they are sitting in it  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Cars should indeed be confiscated, but not crushed. Very wasteful and environmentally unhelpful.
Get them checked by the AA, give them a new identity and put them to good use for the good of the nation/charity/whatever.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on January 14, 2012, 04:31:51 PM
I've just got a new phone delivered, and I've rung Orange to change the phone number to another one I have.  After pushing numbers to get to a department that probably isn't right, entering a password, I then get through to this department, only to be told "Sorry, this number is barred...."  It then hangs up.   >:( >:( >:(

I've just sent an email, and I've been told it could take seven days to call me back. ::)  Bloody outrageous.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on January 14, 2012, 04:47:46 PM
Quote from: Tank on January 14, 2012, 04:31:51 PM
I've just got a new phone delivered, and I've rung Orange to change the phone number to another one I have.  After pushing numbers to get to a department that probably isn't right, entering a password, I then get through to this department, only to be told "Sorry, this number is barred...."  It then hangs up.   >:( >:( >:(

I've just sent an email, and I've been told it could take seven days to call me back. ::)  Bloody outrageous.
It`s taken me about a year to get it through Oranges thick sculls that I want no more to do with them...and even at 9months they were still trying to extract money form yo Access and Barklaycard accounts...........they now seem to have got the message thou.
So good luck Tank  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on January 14, 2012, 04:50:53 PM
 :o :o :o

Thanks for the late warning!  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: grumbeast on January 14, 2012, 05:22:06 PM
 Well, a few years ago I was able to buy a new computer just for me thanks to an inheritance ( I've been using the wife's castoffs since the early 90s), it was a beast, dual quad core xeon Macintosh.. Thursday night it dies, not the drive, graphics card, memory or power but the blasted motherboard.  A fix or replacement just isn't feasible.  On the plus side, the same darling wife says we can get an iMac for me, which will be lovely, but the beast is no more  >:(

Graham
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on January 15, 2012, 07:38:50 AM
You'll like the iMac and if you really need to run any windows programs you can install windows7 in boot camp,a lot better than running a virtual windows software package and about the same price.
The telephone support is also first class.

I run Anyrail,Solid edge 2D cad,and an old Photoshop program on mine.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 23, 2012, 08:48:29 PM
We may be an angry lot with more pages in this thread than in the Happy Thread, but we're more musical than both of them (58 pages) :music:
Doh! I think this should have been in the Happy Thread ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on January 24, 2012, 03:21:14 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on January 23, 2012, 08:48:29 PM
We may be an angry lot with more pages in this thread than in the Happy Thread, but we're more musical than both of them (58 pages) :music:
Doh! I think this should have been in the Happy Thread ::)

Come off it Nobby you know we all like a good old whinge more than music :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Over half of the threads on the music section have not been answered but nearly every thread on the Angry Thread have had a response  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Moaners 10 Music Lovers 6.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Cimmerian on January 24, 2012, 08:04:05 AM
Got to work this morning to find a Mini blocking one of the gates. While I was unlocking the gate and opening the one that wasn't blocked they decided to move the mini, hitting my car in the process then driving off. >:(

As I work right beside a railway station I shall be keeping an eye out now to see if it is a regular drop off and have some words (most of which will not be printable here.)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on January 24, 2012, 08:23:07 AM
Didn't you get his number, that is an offence driving away from a collision  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Cimmerian on January 24, 2012, 08:33:59 AM
Sadly no. It was too dark and they turned the lights off until they were up the road a bit. I was actually in the yard when they done it, heard the noise, went back to my car as they hurriedly drove off.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on January 24, 2012, 08:43:00 AM
Still worth phoning the police, you know it was a mini, have an idea of the colour,  and you will at least get a crime report number for your insurers if you have any damage to get repaired
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Cimmerian on January 24, 2012, 08:50:37 AM
I've got a crack in the bumper, as it's a old Volvo and built like a tank I'm hoping they came off a lot worse.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on January 24, 2012, 11:00:24 AM
I've waited a week for the Mrs to go to work so I can crack on with my layout building, and I have a migraine. ::)  Another delay!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: polo2k on January 24, 2012, 11:39:21 AM
Quote from: Tank on January 24, 2012, 11:00:24 AM
I've waited a week for the Mrs to go to work so I can crack on with my layout building, and I have a migraine. ::)  Another delay!!!

bolldy hell, how long does it take her to get ready!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on January 24, 2012, 11:44:27 AM
Quote from: polo2k on January 24, 2012, 11:39:21 AM
Quote from: Tank on January 24, 2012, 11:00:24 AM
I've waited a week for the Mrs to go to work so I can crack on with my layout building, and I have a migraine. ::)  Another delay!!!

bolldy hell, how long does it take her to get ready!

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Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on January 24, 2012, 06:26:56 PM
 :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: findus on January 26, 2012, 08:13:43 AM
Woken up by mr postie with me thinking my 2x class 37 and new wagons have arrived, only to find 4 packages that were posted by myself to ebay and forum mumbers had be sent back!!

stupid man at the post office had put my address as the track address i think so now i have 4 unhappy people waiting for n gauge that wont arrive this week.  :thumbsdown:

VERY ANGRY!

and to top it off my bits havent arrived either  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mr chapman on January 26, 2012, 06:50:31 PM
A group of boys (age ten max) having a row over why they havent they added each other as a friend on facebook. What happend to climbing trees??? Up yours young people!  :computerangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on January 26, 2012, 07:24:32 PM
Quote from: Mr chapman on January 26, 2012, 06:50:31 PM
A group of boys (age ten max) having a row over why they haven't they added each other as a friend on facebook. What happened to climbing trees??? Up yours young people!  :computerangry:

:smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on January 29, 2012, 03:40:55 PM
Last year I knocked one of the push in buffers off my Warship,my wife managed to find it and I put it away to refit at a later date,that date was today.

Of course just as I was about to push it into place it went ping to another dimension,so my Warship is still missing a buffer.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on January 29, 2012, 04:15:58 PM
Empty the vacuum cleaner, have a good go round in whichever dimension it may have pinged and tip out the contents onto white paper.  You might need to vac a couple of times, but i found loads of pinged bits this way over the years.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 29, 2012, 05:42:11 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on January 29, 2012, 03:40:55 PM

Of course just as I was about to push it into place it went ping to another dimension,

Allan

That's where class 52 Western Enterprise is ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on January 29, 2012, 05:47:20 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on January 29, 2012, 05:42:11 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on January 29, 2012, 03:40:55 PM

Of course just as I was about to push it into place it went ping to another dimension,

Allan

That's where class 52 Western Enterprise is ;D

Nobby, I think the Vacuum cleaner is what they made "Enterprise" into after it was scrapped at Swindon ! In those days Dyson's were made up the road in Malmesbury... Just a thought ! :evil:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: polo2k on January 29, 2012, 06:58:09 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on January 29, 2012, 05:47:20 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on January 29, 2012, 05:42:11 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on January 29, 2012, 03:40:55 PM

Of course just as I was about to push it into place it went ping to another dimension,

Allan

That's where class 52 Western Enterprise is ;D

Nobby, I think the Vacuum cleaner is what they made "Enterprise" into after it was scrapped at Swindon ! In those days Dyson's were made up the road in Malmesbury... Just a thought ! :evil:

As a resident of swindon...


...
...
...


... sorry bout that



:P  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on January 30, 2012, 12:09:08 AM
I resided and worked there back BEFORE they cut up the lovely beesties . In fact in reference to my recent event , it was when I thought there was an earthquake one morning only to realise they were resurfacing the home outside my house with a road roller !

Happy days of Birch Street the Prince of Wales, The glue Pot and the once mighty Mechanic's institute. :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on January 30, 2012, 12:27:15 AM
The Glue Pot, what a fantastic pub with excellent beer  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on January 30, 2012, 10:42:21 AM
Nice to hear that its still there ! I was drinking there in the mid 70's is it still Devenish ?. Move to happy thread..?.I see you are in the birthplace of 6X , now I'm getting homesick or maybe just suffering from a severe lack of good old real ale only lager here ok , stay in Angry mode.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on January 30, 2012, 11:39:12 AM
You'll be waxing lyrical about the Brunel rooms next  :smiley-laughing:
I stayed in Toothill for a while so used to frequent the Toot & Whistle, then there were Friday afternoons in the pub in Hilmarton (don't recall the name) then I moved out to Clyffe Pypard and (occasionally) worked and drank in the Goddard Arms - proper ale & a skittle alley  :beers: ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on January 30, 2012, 11:41:53 AM
Why is it so goddamned dificult and expensive to pay for anything without the use of a Credit or Debit card  >:( >:(

Managed to win some Dapol Cargowaggons from Rails of Sheffield off of Fleebay the other day and as I don't have a Credit/Debit card or Paypal account, I had to use a Postal Order, the flaming Post Office are now charging 12.5% for the privilege!!!!!!!

When everyone is moaning about personal debt, I'm trying to do without the evil Credit Cards and finding that it's just to expensive to live without one, and when you try to buy something I can't get credit, because my Credit Score is low, because I don't have a Credit Card AAAAAARRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

Can I just point out to these idiots, that Cash is just as good as plastic and in fact was around long before Credit or Debit cards were.

Rant mode off!!!!!

Regards

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on January 30, 2012, 11:43:53 AM
Quote from: Lawrence on January 30, 2012, 11:39:12 AM
You'll be waxing lyrical about the Brunel rooms next  :smiley-laughing:
I stayed in Toothill for a while so used to frequent the Toot & Whistle, then there were Friday afternoons in the pub in Hilmarton (don't recall the name) then I moved out to Clyffe Pypard and (occasionally) worked and drank in the Goddard Arms - proper ale & a skittle alley  :beers: ;D

Lawrence,

The pub in Hilmarton is The Duke Hotel.

Cheers

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on January 30, 2012, 11:51:06 AM
Quote from: Calnefoxile on January 30, 2012, 11:41:53 AM
Why is it so goddamned dificult and expensive to pay for anything without the use of a Credit or Debit card  >:( >:(

Managed to win some Dapol Cargowaggons from Rails of Sheffield off of Fleebay the other day and as I don't have a Credit/Debit card or Paypal account, I had to use a Postal Order, the flaming Post Office are now charging 12.5% for the privilege!!!!!!!

When everyone is moaning about personal debt, I'm trying to do without the evil Credit Cards and finding that it's just to expensive to live without one, and when you try to buy something I can't get credit, because my Credit Score is low, because I don't have a Credit Card AAAAAARRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

Can I just point out to these idiots, that Cash is just as good as plastic and in fact was around long before Credit or Debit cards were.

Rant mode off!!!!!

Regards

Neal.

Cant speak for back home but here in Oz a family member tried to apply for a credit card and couldn't get one because she didn't have a drivers licence or passport  :thumbsdown:

Seems to me that your dammed if you do and dammed if you don't  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tackleberry on January 30, 2012, 02:16:32 PM
Being patronised!!!!!!!
I put up with for the last 2 years from someone at work, finally had enough of being talked down to, being patronised and made to feel small by him so i snapped......
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on January 30, 2012, 02:31:22 PM
Quote from: Calnefoxile on January 30, 2012, 11:41:53 AM
Why is it so goddamned dificult and expensive to pay for anything without the use of a Credit or Debit card  >:( >:(

Managed to win some Dapol Cargowaggons from Rails of Sheffield off of Fleebay the other day and as I don't have a Credit/Debit card or Paypal account, I had to use a Postal Order, the flaming Post Office are now charging 12.5% for the privilege!!!!!!!

When everyone is moaning about personal debt, I'm trying to do without the evil Credit Cards and finding that it's just to expensive to live without one, and when you try to buy something I can't get credit, because my Credit Score is low, because I don't have a Credit Card AAAAAARRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

Can I just point out to these idiots, that Cash is just as good as plastic and in fact was around long before Credit or Debit cards were.

Rant mode off!!!!!

Regards

Neal.

Can understand not having a Credit Card to avoid personal debt but you can't run up debt with a Debit Card so why not have one? At least then if the money isn't in the account, you can't have whatever it is you're trying to buy  ;) 

Eventually everything will be pay-by-card anyway and cash will become pretty much non-existant.


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on January 30, 2012, 02:42:23 PM
I had to apply for a credit card so I could hire a car as they would not accept a debit card.  I was not keen as I am an impulse buyer, but I find I use it to buy stuff and (so far) I have paid it off every month in full.

It must be the advancing years that has allowed some sense to creep in, but it only shows on the outside, inside there still lurks a mad teenage jock  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on January 30, 2012, 08:10:04 PM
Don't know what the situation is back home but here in Oz you can go to the Post Office and buy a Visa or Mastercard with various values up to $250, a $100 card costs about $105 and gives you $100 credit.

This is a great way to buy online as it does not connect with your personal accounts.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on January 30, 2012, 08:26:02 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on January 30, 2012, 10:42:21 AM
Nice to hear that its still there ! I was drinking there in the mid 70's is it still Devenish ?. Move to happy thread..?.I see you are in the birthplace of 6X , now I'm getting homesick or maybe just suffering from a severe lack of good old real ale only lager here ok , stay in Angry mode.

[happy mode]The Glue Pot is now Hopback with an ex-Wadworths landlord[/happy mode]
[not so happy mode]I must confess I'm not a fan of Wadworths beer even though up until 6 years ago I lived next to the brewery. I'm now near the Moonrakers pub but that's another long story[/not so happy mode]
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 30, 2012, 08:28:31 PM
Quote from: oldrailbug on January 30, 2012, 08:10:04 PM
Don't know what the situation is back home but here in Oz you can go to the Post Office and buy a Visa or Mastercard with various values up to $250, a $100 card costs about $105 and gives you $100 credit.

This is a great way to buy online as it does not connect with your personal accounts.

What a damned good idea, but as far as I know not available in the UK :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: StufromEGDL on January 30, 2012, 08:35:35 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on January 30, 2012, 08:26:02 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on January 30, 2012, 10:42:21 AM
Nice to hear that its still there ! I was drinking there in the mid 70's is it still Devenish ?. Move to happy thread..?.I see you are in the birthplace of 6X , now I'm getting homesick or maybe just suffering from a severe lack of good old real ale only lager here ok , stay in Angry mode.

[happy mode]The Glue Pot is now Hopback with an ex-Wadworths landlord[/happy mode]
[not so happy mode]I must confess I'm not a fan of Wadworths beer even though up until 6 years ago I lived next to the brewery. I'm now near the Moonrakers pub but that's another long story[/not so happy mode]

Not that far away from me then.....
Just down the road in Upper Stratton!!!

Later;
STU from EGDL
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on January 30, 2012, 08:39:41 PM
I have a Mastercard, issued by my utilities supplier (Utility Warehouse), which I can load up as needed. This also can be used at certain listed retailers to give a discount. The great thing about it is that, if stolen, the theives cannot rack up a huge bill for me.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 30, 2012, 08:43:01 PM
I have very fond memories of slurping way too much 6X - but that was in Bristol and Bath. Dunno whether the Smiles brewery is still going but that was a great quaffing ale too :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on January 30, 2012, 08:54:29 PM
Quote from: StufromEGDL on January 30, 2012, 08:35:35 PM
Not that far away from me then.....
Just down the road in Upper Stratton!!!

Later;
STU from EGDL

Sorry Stu, not that Moonrakers, the REAL Moonrakers in Devizes.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Irish Padre on January 30, 2012, 09:09:25 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on January 30, 2012, 11:39:12 AM
You'll be waxing lyrical about the Brunel rooms next  :smiley-laughing:
I stayed in Toothill for a while so used to frequent the Toot & Whistle, then there were Friday afternoons in the pub in Hilmarton (don't recall the name) then I moved out to Clyffe Pypard and (occasionally) worked and drank in the Goddard Arms - proper ale & a skittle alley  :beers: ;D

You're going to prompt me to start a sad thread now  ;) RIP RAF Lyneham!!! Had a very happy tour as you obviously did too Lawrence  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on January 30, 2012, 09:22:08 PM
I don't know about happy David, that is where I met and married Della, and that was 28 years ago  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Irish Padre on January 30, 2012, 09:39:48 PM
Not so happy for her then   ;D !!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on January 30, 2012, 09:43:15 PM
Quote from: Irish Padre on January 30, 2012, 09:39:48 PM
Not so happy for her then   ;D !!!

I can see you getting your legs slapped of that remark  ;D

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on January 30, 2012, 10:03:46 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on January 30, 2012, 09:43:15 PM
Quote from: Irish Padre on January 30, 2012, 09:39:48 PM
Not so happy for her then   ;D !!!

I can see you getting your legs slapped of that remark  ;D

Allan

I'll wait until his broken leg has healed then I can slap both  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Irish Padre on January 30, 2012, 10:08:32 PM
You get a better quality of banter in the RAF, don't you Lawrence?! Won't be going anywhere near you for a while though!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Cimmerian on February 03, 2012, 11:52:20 AM
The work filter system has decided this morning that this site is a personal blog and won't let me on it anymore. :thumbsdown: :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on February 03, 2012, 11:54:40 AM
Oh no!  Complain!!! :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on February 03, 2012, 12:01:22 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on January 30, 2012, 08:28:31 PM
Quote from: oldrailbug on January 30, 2012, 08:10:04 PM
Don't know what the situation is back home but here in Oz you can go to the Post Office and buy a Visa or Mastercard with various values up to $250, a $100 card costs about $105 and gives you $100 credit.

This is a great way to buy online as it does not connect with your personal accounts.

What a damned good idea, but as far as I know not available in the UK :(

There are cards available in the UK, one of my friends has one, I will ask her where she got it from and let you know  :thumbsup:


cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Cimmerian on February 03, 2012, 12:04:31 PM
Quote from: Tank on February 03, 2012, 11:54:40 AM
Oh no!  Complain!!! :D

I can see that going down well...

"Dear Sir, Why do you want me to work instead of reading posts about model railways?"

I can almost feel the pay rise on its way to me. :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: point blank on February 09, 2012, 12:33:44 PM
I had to make my way to hospital yesterday for an operation under general anesthetic so had to be picked up after discharge at night meaning It would have been a bit awkward to use the car to get there.
So I thought that I would try the fantastic bus network that they are trying to prise us out of our cars to and from work with.
A 15 minute journey in the car took one hour on the bus after taking me on a tour of the Fylde coast and cost £3.45.
I have got one of the thirstiest cars on the road and I can get there and back for that. So sorry Stagecoach but you can stick your buses where the sun doesn't shine and I will stick to the car. >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 09, 2012, 01:12:50 PM
Apart from being irate, I hope everything went OK for you :wave:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: point blank on February 09, 2012, 01:22:53 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on February 09, 2012, 01:12:50 PM
Apart from being irate, I hope everything went OK for you :wave:
I'm fine thanks, just a bit sore after having my gallblader removed  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on February 09, 2012, 01:29:15 PM
Quote from: point blank on February 09, 2012, 12:33:44 PM
I had to make my way to hospital yesterday for an operation under general anesthetic so had to be picked up after discharge at night meaning It would have been a bit awkward to use the car to get there.

i recently had an operation under general anaesthetic and was told not to drive for 48 hours,something to do with insurance I was told.I knew you shouldn't drive home or use public transport immediately after an operation using a general anaesthetic.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: polo2k on February 09, 2012, 01:41:22 PM
speaking from experiance, within 48 Hours of a general anestetic, dont bother with a Prodigy concert. Didnt enjoy it as much as I would have liked.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: point blank on February 09, 2012, 02:21:25 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on February 09, 2012, 01:29:15 PM
i recently had an operation under general anaesthetic and was told not to drive for 48 hours,something to do with insurance I was told.I knew you shouldn't drive home or use public transport immediately after an operation using a general anaesthetic.

Allan
My wife picked me up after being discharged, thankfully the bus ride was just to get there to save her the trouble of nipping out of work and running me.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: point blank on February 09, 2012, 02:28:18 PM
Quote from: polo2k on February 09, 2012, 01:41:22 PM
speaking from experiance, within 48 Hours of a general anestetic, dont bother with a Prodigy concert. Didnt enjoy it as much as I would have liked.

And my wife thought it was just me that was mad, let me explain....
I got discharged at 1930 four hours after my gallbladder removed, and we went straight to the Opera House to watch Sarah Millican which we booked last year.
Going to see a funny comedian when your insides are killing you, you feel sick and are fighting to stop awake is not the best idea of fun. But if I am honest I am glad that I went.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: polo2k on February 09, 2012, 02:37:52 PM
But isnt it surprising how effective a couple of beers are!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: point blank on February 09, 2012, 02:46:14 PM
Quote from: polo2k on February 09, 2012, 02:37:52 PM
But isnt it surprising how effective a couple of beers are!
Unfortunately sips of water were all that I could manage  ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: polo2k on February 09, 2012, 02:48:19 PM
probably for the best given the effect even lager has shortly after!

(and while were on the subject, dont have a curry, after a concert, the day after having wisdom teeth out!)

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on February 09, 2012, 03:04:36 PM
Main reason for not driving a car, after internal operations, is so that you don't rearrange your innards when the stitches give up under the G-force of an emergency stop. How they know that the bus/taxi/neighbour/other half will get you home, without having to brake hard, defeats me. I am due yet another op on my throat, and have to return to the hospital for the stitches to be removed two days later. To avoid unnecessary travel, I will be put up for free in the attached hotel (where expectant fathers can stay) for those two days. NHS rules OK (makes a change).  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on February 09, 2012, 03:12:58 PM
Quote from: Kipper on February 09, 2012, 03:04:36 PM
How they know that the bus/taxi/neighbour/other half will get you home, without having to brake hard, defeats me.

I think the theory is that if they find you in bits after an emergency stop they can take you back to casualty !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 09, 2012, 03:20:34 PM
Having had 2 hernia operations in the last 10 years (one for lifting a very heavy air guitar and the other for raising an eyebrow), I can vouch for the 'don't drive' instruction. Trouble is my sister picked me up from the last one in her Audi TT. By the time I had coiled myself into/out of it I was almost volunteering to go back to hospital. :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on February 09, 2012, 04:58:42 PM
Quote from: Kipper on February 09, 2012, 03:04:36 PM

To avoid unnecessary travel, I will be put up for free in the attached hotel (where expectant fathers can stay) for those two days. NHS rules OK (makes a change).  :thumbsup:

If it's the hotel at the City hospital,it's excellent.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tadpole on February 10, 2012, 11:55:09 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on February 09, 2012, 03:20:34 PM
Having had 2 hernia operations in the last 10 years (one for lifting a very heavy air guitar and the other for raising an eyebrow), I can vouch for the 'don't drive' instruction. Trouble is my sister picked me up from the last one in her Audi TT. By the time I had coiled myself into/out of it I was almost volunteering to go back to hospital. :(

:smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Those pesky air guitars can be suprisingly heavy!

as for this guy:  :-\
both eyebrows at once - owch!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on February 11, 2012, 03:20:34 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on February 09, 2012, 04:58:42 PM
Quote from: Kipper on February 09, 2012, 03:04:36 PM

To avoid unnecessary travel, I will be put up for free in the attached hotel (where expectant fathers can stay) for those two days. NHS rules OK (makes a change).  :thumbsup:

If it's the hotel at the City hospital,it's excellent.

Allan

That's the one. Hope it's not full up when I (eventually) get my op date.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on February 11, 2012, 03:30:51 PM
You'll have to check,but I think food in the cafeteria is free as well.

Your own room,TV,en suite bathroom and tea and coffee making facilities,.......does your wife know your an expectant father,or is it something best kept from her. ;D

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on February 11, 2012, 03:39:04 PM
Hmm, that's a thought. Do they do double rooms? I fancy my next nipper being called "City", as per Beck and Posh's brat naming method, (as long as my stitches don't burst in the process!).  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on February 11, 2012, 04:55:53 PM
Watching England vs Italy.....I can't believe England let Italy get that second try!!!! >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on February 11, 2012, 06:07:31 PM
I can't believe England have won their first 2 matches  :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on February 11, 2012, 06:11:17 PM
Great work for a new team I suppose.  Still, we knew the first match would be a breeze.  ;)  Just kidding, both matches were close calls.  I did think we deserved to win today, as we had the edge.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on February 11, 2012, 06:14:46 PM
Quote from: Tank on February 11, 2012, 06:11:17 PM
I did think we deserved to win today, as we had the edge.

Does he not play in U2?  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:

Quote from: Lawrence on February 11, 2012, 06:07:31 PM
I can't believe England have won their first 2 matches  :o

Bulging brown envelopes  :evil:  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on February 11, 2012, 07:41:57 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on February 11, 2012, 06:07:31 PM
I can't believe England have won their first 2 matches  :o

Well if the Scots could catch or kick they wouldn't have 8-P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on February 11, 2012, 07:49:51 PM
Unfortunately Parks retired 1 game too late, the Scots were ill disciplined, gave away too many penalties and suffered too many unforced errors.

They will atone for that tomorrow Alan  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on February 11, 2012, 07:53:04 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on February 11, 2012, 07:49:51 PM
They will atone for that tomorrow Alan  ;)

Maybe, but thanks for the Calcutta Cup. ;D  Until next time..... :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on February 13, 2012, 11:45:13 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on February 11, 2012, 07:49:51 PM
They will atone for that tomorrow Alan  ;)

Oops, maybe not then
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on February 14, 2012, 12:00:10 AM
'fraid not 8)

Although it was actually good to see that Scotland remembered how to play the game in the second half. It's been far far too long, and hopefully they'll now get some wins in the later games.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on February 14, 2012, 08:17:49 AM
Bloomin good game though, I think they should use the sin bin like they do in ice hockey, so if you are down to 14 men and the opposition scores a try, you get the man back on.  Thought the ref was poor for both sides though, vive la differance my bahookie  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Fratton on February 20, 2012, 04:30:12 PM
Not angry as such (yet) but doing an early spring clean on the yard and have found some failed wired fishplates so I'm currently cooking my fingers with a soldering iron putting some emergency droppers in,ought get carried away and put in a redundancy system,,,,
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on February 22, 2012, 07:15:13 PM
I'd like to take a moment to nominate Hornby/Arnold for the 'taking the proverbial' engineering award.

The Arnold ICE3 set has a pair of 6pin DCC sockets and plugs.

Now there are lots of places you could put them but in this case they are on the bottom of a PCB facing the underside of the loco.

Is there a plate on the bottom to gain access - no

To change the decoder plugs and fit a decoder I had to

- Remove the top body
- Slide a screw driver down behind the metal chassis block clips to the bottom moulding
- Remove that (carefully and part way as there is a wire through it
- Remove  the bogies and towers (and on the motor coach this also disengages the drive shafts
- Remove the PCB (carefully its on short wires to the motor)
- Fit the decoder

Reverse the entire process including threading the drive shafts back in.

The bright side is that there is going to be room for sound in the trailing car. The downside is I'm going to have to repeat the entire process to fit it.

Oh yes and the inter-vehicle couplers are even more inane than the Kato Eurostar, so its not a model you can keep putting away. Hornby do graciously give you *one* spare small sharp pointy and easy to lose coupler however - in a little non resealable bag to ensure it gets lost in the box once you've opened it.

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: 4x2 on February 22, 2012, 07:35:53 PM
That reminds me of a Linde (German made) forklift i worked on once....

Part of the service is to change the spark plugs (gas engine) - I had to remove the alternator to get to No 4....!

Took me an hour to change one spark plug... >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(  and i had two more of the *******  to do before i went home.... :thumbsdown:

So I know how you feel EP ! By the way, the ICE 3 looks great - it's worth the effort !  ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on February 25, 2012, 07:45:43 PM

My Dapol Class 58 has just burnt out - 10 days out of guarantee!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(  >:( >:( The only good thing was that it didn't take the decoder with it.   

That's only the fourth Dapol unit I've had that hasn't got past the first year. I've had three HST sets that didn't get past four months before they smoked or just packed up!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( Straight back to Hattons/Rails for refunds they went with no quibbles from either of them, just quick refunds.

The 58 came from Kernow Model Railway Centre and some how I think all I'm going to get is a "sorry try BR Lines" when after I've taken a 50 mile round trip. At least I can get a cuppa while I'm down that way, my eldest daughter lives within walking distance of the shop.

I wouldn't mind so much if I ran my stock a full speed but I don't. It can't just be a Dapol thing can it, after all, I've got second hand farish units that run sweet as nuts.

NOT a happy bunny!!! >:( >:(

Rant over

Jack

PS. Who ever thought of the Angry Thread - take a pat on the back
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EddieA on February 29, 2012, 06:13:06 PM
Some (expletive!) recently managed to hit the back bumper of my car in a public car park, leaving a small but perfectly formed indentation in it. Of course they obviously didn't have a pen or bit of paper with them to leave their details! Decided today to try to repair it only to discover that Halfords don't do my colour as a standard. Good news is that they can supply it as a 'special mix'. Bad news - it is going to cost well over a fiver more for the service.

I'll be looking around for somewhere else that does auto paints first.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on March 02, 2012, 03:20:06 AM
Australian Roads :evil: :evil: :evil:

First reason for being angry, first day on holidays last week with my caravan parked in a McDonalds carpark a truck hit my caravan and put a 6ft long 3/4in deep groove in the side of my caravan and then drove off :evil:

Later tha same day there was a major accident on the highway and traffic heading south was redirected around some back roads, we saw a sign saying Pacific Hwy 27km so made the turn onto the road, after about 10km the tarmac road turned into gravel and on a bend the gravel had built up and when the car hit the gravel it was like driving on marbles.

The car and caravan started fishtailing and eventually the caravan went down a 3ft deep gutter and rolled over on a 45 degree angle with the back wheels of the car off the ground, I nearly took a fit when I got out of the car and saw it laying on its side with the underneath totally exposed.

I tried to get the caravan off ther car but it wouldnt budge, only thing left was to say a prayer, we were blocking the road with no prospect of traffic coming any time soon, with a mighty heave with a large screwdriver I found the extra strength to release the car and headed off to get help, a small truck was coming in thew opposite direction so I flagged the bloke down and asked him if he had any rope, no worries mate I'll see you at your car, I tied the rope to the axle of the caravan and to the towbar on my car and with smoking tyres I tipped the van back onto its wheels.

To my amazement the was very little damage to the exterior but inside the stove/oven had shot out of its place and landed on the opposite side of the van, after much tidying up we eventually got to where we were going and thankfully the only thing not working was the stove as the gas pipe had broken.

So yes I am very angry that the NSW roads department can put a massive green and silver sign pointing to a highway only to find that it runs into a bush track, as for the Mc Donalds incident I would love to get the mongrel who drove off after hitting my van. :evil:

Well thats my moan for this week, only one week left on the holiday and the caravan park is located right beside the Main North Coast Railway line, trouble is all the bloody trains seem to run at night so still cranky. :evil:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 02, 2012, 08:45:16 AM
Oh my hat - you're meant to be having a break from all the stuff everyday life throws at us :o

I hope the rest of your hols is free from incident and that you can relax (safe in the knowledge all our sympathies are with you) :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on March 02, 2012, 09:46:48 AM
Blimey Dave, what a nightmare!!!!  Glad nothing serious happened - ie turning the car over!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on March 02, 2012, 10:12:34 AM
Hells teeth Dave, you will need another holiday to recover!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on March 02, 2012, 10:44:07 AM
Sorry to hear your bad news Dave !!!!

Scary stuff with the caravan!!! Hope the rest of your hols pass without incident.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on March 02, 2012, 12:05:43 PM
 :o hope things improve!  Hope you have planty of beer on board.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: boffin22 on March 02, 2012, 06:40:45 PM
Just returned from Lanzarote. Very angry at not being able to find a model shop with a huge stock of N Gauge British  Outline. Shan't go there again. >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on March 02, 2012, 06:44:07 PM
Quote from: boffin22 on March 02, 2012, 06:40:45 PM
Just returned from Lanzarote. Very angry at not being able to find a model shop with a huge stock of N Gauge British  Outline. Shan't go there again. >:(

:smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

I doubt you found much in the way of real railways on the island either!

Hope you had a good holiday though (other than having an N Gauge Drought) :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: boffin22 on March 02, 2012, 11:03:17 PM
Also got angry with buses that didn't turn up!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on March 05, 2012, 09:41:47 AM
Thank you all for your kind thoughts re Caravan accident, thankfully we are back home now and the caravan and car are still in one piece, some repairs to do to the caravan that I have to organize so we are lucky.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 05, 2012, 11:09:54 AM
Welcome back, Dave :wave:
I hope that, despite the traumas, you had a great holiday :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on March 05, 2012, 12:38:00 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 05, 2012, 11:09:54 AM
Welcome back, Dave :wave:
I hope that, despite the traumas, you had a great holiday :thumbsup:

After your "great" adventures I can only echo newportnobby's words.  :thumbsup:

Jack
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: boffin22 on March 05, 2012, 01:13:32 PM
Thanks to those who showed concern over the lack of model shops and buses whilst on holiday :smiley-laughing: but I did return suitably sunburned and  my usual supplier in the NW (no names mentioned) can benefit as I couldn't buy any N in Lanzarote.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on March 05, 2012, 05:37:38 PM
Been away for the weekend and I think I have turned my iPhone into a brick, it does not like water that is for sure.  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on March 05, 2012, 05:49:21 PM
Quote from: Geoff on March 05, 2012, 05:37:38 PM
Been away for the weekend and I think I have turned my iPhone into a brick, it does not like water that is for sure.  >:(

D'oh!  A friend has an Otter case, which is supposed to be waterproof, drop proof etc... Assuming you get a replacement.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on March 05, 2012, 05:55:24 PM
Doesn't it upset the otter when you ... ?

...

...

I'll get me coat ...

Mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Fratton on March 06, 2012, 02:23:26 AM
something has just really annoyed me at work tonight,

had a doctor on call car arrive at my front gate and press the intercom i pressed the open gate and said come to the security office for assistance in find where they were going,
the driver drove in didnt accknowledge what i had said and drove past my office off around the park, they drove round a bit then sat like lemons for 5-10 mintutes,

eventually i got tired of them siting there and went and found them and asked where they were going, to which they asked for what i know to be an empty plot, then it dawns on me that they are at riverside caravan park bognor regis when they should be at lake side caravan park chichester  ::)

if they had bothered to come to me the first time much less time would have been wasted,

i just hope the poor person waiting for a doctor wasnt in too much discomfort,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bad Raven on March 06, 2012, 09:23:32 AM
Quote from: Claude Dreyfus on March 29, 2011, 10:04:22 PM

At the end of the day I was presented with the invoice for me to sign-off and charge against my project...what I saw left me stunned!

£200 FOR SOME LOUSEY BL***Y SANDWICHES!!!

That equates to £12.50 per head.  not the middle of Tokyo...there's tons of space around...its not at a premium here!!


My wife was just bought a "Afternoon Tea" in a London (Bayswater) Hotel as a retirement present.......a round of sandwiches that could be one mouthful and two small cakes..................£64 a head!!!!!! 

>:( >:(    RIP OFF!!!!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on March 06, 2012, 09:32:24 AM
Quote from: Bad Raven on March 06, 2012, 09:23:32 AM
Quote from: Claude Dreyfus on March 29, 2011, 10:04:22 PM

At the end of the day I was presented with the invoice for me to sign-off and charge against my project...what I saw left me stunned!

£200 FOR SOME LOUSEY BL***Y SANDWICHES!!!

That equates to £12.50 per head.  not the middle of Tokyo...there's tons of space around...its not at a premium here!!


My wife was just bought a "Afternoon Tea" in a London (Bayswater) Hotel as a retirement present.......a round of sandwiches that could be one mouthful and two small cakes..................£64 a head!!!!!! 

>:( >:(    RIP OFF!!!!!!

Wait utill the Olympics start  ::)

Last week on the tv programme The Tube, one lady stated the hotels were increasing their prices six fold during the olympics  :o

If they are not careful this will end up like the Athens games, the hotels upped their prices and even though people had tickets for the games they did not go because the whole trip was going to cost too much.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on March 06, 2012, 10:56:20 AM
Quote from: Mustermark on March 05, 2012, 05:49:21 PM
D'oh!  A friend has an Otter case, which is supposed to be waterproof, drop proof etc... Assuming you get a replacement.

You can make tea with them as well providing its a water 'otter ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on March 06, 2012, 11:23:05 AM
I think that this guy is overspending  a bit so stop complaining about a few hundred quid  :smiley-laughing:

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/alex--ace-of-spades--hope-racks-up-incredible-%C2%A3200-000-bar-bill.html (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/alex--ace-of-spades--hope-racks-up-incredible-%C2%A3200-000-bar-bill.html)

::) ::) defiantly a banker  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 06, 2012, 11:28:37 AM
It was mentioned on the radio this morning.
Evidently the 10% service bill was £18,000 :beers: :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on March 06, 2012, 12:13:47 PM
And who says the highest tax band shouldn't be at least 50%....


Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Crackerbill on March 07, 2012, 01:02:26 AM
My desk top computer has just died. :( :( :thumbsdown:

Just won't switch on, I took the front off and  had a look at the switch, but it seems to ackle OK.  Damn it as I used it for printing and scanning etc.  Still I'll just have to persevere with my laptop which is a nuisance as the reason I have the laptop is for portability not to use it in situ.  >:( >:(

On the bright side, I can now remove the desk top computer and make more room for my trains - there's always a silver lining  :thumbsup:

Bill
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on March 07, 2012, 09:06:11 AM
This may seem a daft question but have you checked the fuse in the plug or extension lead if you are plugged into one?  It may be a simple PSU swap out, shouldn't cost much
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Crackerbill on March 08, 2012, 01:04:56 AM
Quote from: Lawrence on March 07, 2012, 09:06:11 AM
This may seem a daft question but have you checked the fuse in the plug or extension lead if you are plugged into one?  It may be a simple PSU swap out, shouldn't cost much

Thanks for the thoughts, I have tried all the normal checks and cannot as yet find a solution.  I will do a further in depth service when I get time from our new Puppy.  I havn't even done a thing in regard to my trains for over the last three weeks now!!  Doom and gloom.

Bill
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pete Mc on March 08, 2012, 06:51:56 AM
Speaking of the Olympics,I work for one.of the companies doing the shuttle bus services to and from the various venues.
Now last year,around september,we were 'invited' to apply to be drivers to cover these services.The terms were very good indeed,except that we had to do the shuttle services during our holidays,so what we had as part of the terms was the equivalent of three and a half times our weekly wage,free laid on accomodation,free travel to and from our homes at weekends and also meal allowances.Which all in total equates to pretty much no expenses whilstl away from home.To some this would be as you'd expect.
As a driver with the company for the last three years and a period of employment with them for fifteen years you would expect that I'd be a shoe in.But no,I don't have enough days 'annual leave' to qualify so no Olympics for me.I wouldn't even mind forgoing my holidays either as I wouldn't have anything to do with passengers as there is a steward on board for that.
So a couple of months ago a notice went up for people to volunteer to be stewards on board.I also applied to be one of those and have just been told again that i don't have enough leave to qualify for the whole event,and I've heard they are struggling to fill these positions.
Well,let them struggle.I'll just go away.for a few days or a week or whatever or may just stay at home,playing trains and doing layout work.
For those that think I may be interested in the whole patriotism behind our hosting of the olympics,I'm not in thw slightest.In fact,I'm of the belief that it all will be as Al Murray Pub Landlord says.
Anyway,every cloud and all that guff.

Pete
:Class37: :NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on March 08, 2012, 09:58:13 AM
Personally I think the Olympics should be for individual competitors and no team or doubles events should be included.They'll be wanting to include line dancing next.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: hairygit on March 08, 2012, 10:11:13 AM
Glad I'm not the only one hacked off with the olympics already. The government has spent billions of our money building venues and promoting this rubbish, saying it will be so good for the country >:(: what a misleading statement, the only people who will make any money out of it are those who already have plenty, people who own Hotels and the like! The rest of us will just find disruption, massive traffic jams and much general inconvenience. And when it's all over, endless reports and speculation about how much loss we made over it!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Fratton on March 08, 2012, 11:43:30 AM
My career plan was to work for g4s during the Olympics but I'm glad I'm  not as g4s is recruiting a foreign legion of stewards and door supervisor qualified staff to fulfill targets that in my view will be a mistake, most of the security industry disagrees with their tactics,,,,
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: hairygit on March 08, 2012, 11:56:25 AM
Several bodies have approached the coach company I work for regarding transport to and from events, but gladly my boss said no way! I can just imagine the traffic chaos, and on the subject of security, how much is it going to cost us to have a warship stationed on the thames on full alert for the duration of the games, plus 4 strike aircraft?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on March 08, 2012, 01:19:57 PM
it's the London Olympics, nothing to do with the UK other than the rest of the UK paying for it. Hopefully will be able to avoid most of it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: hairygit on March 08, 2012, 01:43:20 PM
Unfortunately my job involves regular trips to London, and Heathrow and Gatwick, such fun >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: SymonC on March 08, 2012, 01:50:16 PM
Quote from: Zwilnik on March 08, 2012, 01:19:57 PM
it's the London Olympics, nothing to do with the UK other than the rest of the UK paying for it. Hopefully will be able to avoid most of it.

Not all of it is in London though.

For example the sailing etc is in Weymouth and the football is spread around the country.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: moogle on March 08, 2012, 02:12:21 PM
Well as we're hosting it let's hope our athletes pull out all the stops and win, win, win!  :thumbsup:
Personally I'll be doing some railway modelling...  ;D

Wait up, that should be in the happy thread!  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on March 08, 2012, 07:44:38 PM
All-

Just to prevent a possible 'powder keg' being ignited about the Olympics and the politics behind it, please refer to section i) of the N Gauge Forum Code of Conduct.

Angry thread is provided for people to 'let off steam' and not to get angry with each other :'(. What ever people think about the Olympic games politics both positive and negative are not for discussion here. After recent rows developing on the forum regarding similar issues Iam concious of this developing into a similar fall-out.

Please uderstand this is only to keep harmoney on the forum and to prevent the moderating team working unneccessary overtime :computerangry: ::)

Thank You all for your continued support of N Gauge Forum :NGaugeForum: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on March 08, 2012, 11:33:46 PM
am currently p'd off with my satellite system, in the middle of watching cruft's first lost all sound then the picxture went as well.
tried other channels and no signal.  checked the system using a spare receiver and had exactly the same channels missing. recon a transponder on the satellite must have gone down because the channels i can receive are excellent signal strength
sorry  about lower case only but am also having problems with my shift key.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pete Mc on March 08, 2012, 11:57:56 PM
Have you tried pulling the power lead out of the back of the receiver,waiting thirty seconds then plugging the power lead back in and allowing it to reboot itself?
If you have done this to no avail,then has it been windy and possibly blown the dish very slightly out of alignment?
If not this either,what are the current weather conditions?
Heavy rain affects the signal,even if its not raining whwre you are,it may be raining somewhere close by and does cause the picture to fail and go to the warning message.
I have owned a Sky digital system and now have a hd set up and when the weather is bad it does affect the signal to the point of losing it entirely.
Hope this helps.

Pete
:Class37: :NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Donkey on March 09, 2012, 07:32:03 AM
Oldman, it could have something to do with those solar flares that were reported on the news yesterday. They said it could cause problems with satellites and sat navs.

Marty
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 09, 2012, 08:10:23 AM
Quote from: Donkey on March 09, 2012, 07:32:03 AM
Oldman, it could have something to do with those solar flares that were reported on the news yesterday. They said it could cause problems with satellites and sat navs.

Marty

Could explain why my satnav told me to turn right on a roundabout that didn't have a right turn ???
Then again, I never rely on the thing, especially not round Huddersfield!! :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MinZaPint on March 09, 2012, 04:08:22 PM
What is it with Ebay that my tired old brain wont cope with, I wait untill the last few seconds post my bid and immediately get outbid! Well fed up missed out on a couple of items I really wanted which are no longer available!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on March 09, 2012, 04:32:49 PM
Either someone 'sniped' you, or more likely someone had a higher bid in earlier.  If you really wanted them, you should put in your max bid ...

Mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MinZaPint on March 10, 2012, 01:32:08 PM
Thanks Mike, whats Snipe?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on March 10, 2012, 01:42:38 PM
A snipe is when they place their bid with only a few seconds to go which does not give you enough time to place another bid.

A good way is to put in the maximum you are willing to pay, this does not mean you will pay your maximum.  If something is at e.g. £2.50 and it indicates you need to bid at least £3, if you put in £6 the bid would only go up to £3 not your maximum of £6.  It would only go up to your maximum if someone placed a bid of £5.50 then your already placed bid of £6 would kick in.

It can be very frustrating when you get sniped but there are usually more of the same things a the following weeks  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on March 10, 2012, 02:16:12 PM
As Mike said, someone might have already had a much higher maximum bid amount in  :thumbsup: I always put in my maximum amount I'm prepared to pay straight away, if I get outbid then it's too expensive - wait for the next one  ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: moogle on March 10, 2012, 03:27:59 PM
Went down to see if there was any post earlier. Must have delivered early today.  :o
Just one of those couldn't deliver cards from the postman. Package too big to fit through letter box.
There's three other flats in the house I live in, why couldn't they try any of them?  ???
Are they only allowed to press one bell and spend no more than 10 seconds to wait for an answer?
Now I have to wait 48hrs to make a special trip on Monday to collect it.  >:(

There, rant over...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on March 10, 2012, 04:00:15 PM

There's three other flats in the house I live in, why couldn't they try any of them?  ???
Are they only allowed to press one bell and spend no more than 10 seconds to wait for an answer?
Now I have to wait 48hrs to make a special trip on Monday to collect it.  >:( CRETINS!


Hi,
I tend to just read posts on this forum and this isn't the way I'd like to make my first post.
Being a postie I find 'cretin' most offensive.
Due to security of the 'Queens Mail' we are not allowed to deliver your item to another address so cannot try the other numbers. Posties do though to help the customer but you would be surprised how many neighbours don't get on and the packet is never passed on. If the postie is caught doing this it can be a sackable offence under the conduct code regarding security of the mail. I should know as I am currently under a 2 year suspended dismissal for trying to help a customer in this way. An odd figure I know but we are given 58 seconds per packet call and believe me we like to get rid of your packet as we'd rather not continue carrying it round! Sure, you may have to wait 48 hours but at least you know you'll get it rather than a neighbour stealing it. You don't have to make a special trip either. Once you've got the card through the door you can request the packet be delivered to your home or indeed any other address that your local office covers.
We slog round every day carrying heavy bags in all weathers so please be certain of your facts before insulting people.
G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: moogle on March 10, 2012, 04:24:57 PM
Quote from: thebrighton on March 10, 2012, 04:00:15 PM

There's three other flats in the house I live in, why couldn't they try any of them?  ???
Are they only allowed to press one bell and spend no more than 10 seconds to wait for an answer?
Now I have to wait 48hrs to make a special trip on Monday to collect it.  >:( CRETINS!


Hi,
I tend to just read posts on this forum and this isn't the way I'd like to make my first post.
Being a postie I find 'cretin' most offensive.
Due to security of the 'Queens Mail' we are not allowed to deliver your item to another address so cannot try the other numbers. Posties do though to help the customer but you would be surprised how many neighbours don't get on and the packet is never passed on. If the postie is caught doing this it can be a sackable offence under the conduct code regarding security of the mail. I should know as I am currently under a 2 year suspended dismissal for trying to help a customer in this way. An odd figure I know but we are given 58 seconds per packet call and believe me we like to get rid of your packet as we'd rather not continue carrying it round! Sure, you may have to wait 48 hours but at least you know you'll get it rather than a neighbour stealing it. You don't have to make a special trip either. Once you've got the card through the door you can request the packet be delivered to your home or indeed any other address that your local office covers.
We slog round every day carrying heavy bags in all weathers so please be certain of your facts before insulting people.
G

Didn't mean to insult anyone, just letting off steam because it keeps happening.
(This is the angry thread after all...)
Neighbors won't steal it here, we have one front door and a communal hall where all the post, papers etc gets put.
But I know I'm lucky and that thats probably in a minority.

58 seconds per packet call? Crikey.
That's not very long to hear the bell ring, open the flat door, and charge down three flights of stairs to answer the front door.
Think I need a firemans pole!  :smiley-laughing:

Sorry to hear about your suspension for trying to be helpful.
Again, No offense meant to any posties, past or present.
You all do a great job in all weathers, come rain or shine.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on March 10, 2012, 04:25:48 PM
Quote from: thebrighton on March 10, 2012, 04:00:15 PM

There's three other flats in the house I live in, why couldn't they try any of them?  ???
Are they only allowed to press one bell and spend no more than 10 seconds to wait for an answer?
Now I have to wait 48hrs to make a special trip on Monday to collect it.  >:( CRETINS!


Hi,
I tend to just read posts on this forum and this isn't the way I'd like to make my first post.
Being a postie I find 'cretin' most offensive.
Due to security of the 'Queens Mail' we are not allowed to deliver your item to another address so cannot try the other numbers. Posties do though to help the customer but you would be surprised how many neighbours don't get on and the packet is never passed on. If the postie is caught doing this it can be a sackable offence under the conduct code regarding security of the mail. I should know as I am currently under a 2 year suspended dismissal for trying to help a customer in this way. An odd figure I know but we are given 58 seconds per packet call and believe me we like to get rid of your packet as we'd rather not continue carrying it round! Sure, you may have to wait 48 hours but at least you know you'll get it rather than a neighbour stealing it. You don't have to make a special trip either. Once you've got the card through the door you can request the packet be delivered to your home or indeed any other address that your local office covers.
We slog round every day carrying heavy bags in all weathers so please be certain of your facts before insulting people.
G

I have to say there are good post men and very poor postman and your right no one should be called names, our regular postman is superb, but the stand in post man always leaves a package in our services cupboard where anyone could open and he does not knock just wants to finish his round quicker, there is always someone in our house, I have contacted the dispatching warehouse and they say they are sorry and will tell the stand in postman to knock but never does, so we have to check our services cupboard regularly when we think there is a package coming.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MinZaPint on March 10, 2012, 04:43:38 PM
Very happy with our postie, always make sure to jump on the landing so he can hear I'm coming! Thats only when I'm expecting a package of goodies. Quiet as a mouse when it my be a letter from IR!

Cheers Scotsoft & Sprintex for your advice, many thanks I'll give it a go.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on March 10, 2012, 04:50:09 PM
There is good and not so good in all walks of life, this little corner of the forum is there for members to vent their spleens from time to time. 
Members should remember that this is often a temporary state of mind  ;) and no offence should be intended or taken (well not permanently anyway  :smiley-laughing: ).

I would never be allowed in a bus or taxi again, or be able to sort anything out involving a call centre  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: moogle on March 10, 2012, 04:56:48 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on March 10, 2012, 04:50:09 PM
There is good and not so good in all walks of life, this little corner of the forum is there for members to vent their spleens from time to time. 
Members should remember that this is often a temporary state of mind  ;) and no offence should be intended or taken (well not permanently anyway  :smiley-laughing: ).

I would never be allowed in a bus or taxi again, or be able to sort anything out involving a call centre  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

Very true Lawrence.
I've removed the offensive 'name' and apologised for it too.
But my anger remains, only in my original post though!  :smiley-laughing:
Oh, and don't get me started on call centers...  :evil:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: brbluewill on March 10, 2012, 04:59:20 PM
Quote from: thebrighton on March 10, 2012, 04:00:15 PM

There's three other flats in the house I live in, why couldn't they try any of them?  ???
Are they only allowed to press one bell and spend no more than 10 seconds to wait for an answer?
Now I have to wait 48hrs to make a special trip on Monday to collect it.  >:( CRETINS!


Hi,
I tend to just read posts on this forum and this isn't the way I'd like to make my first post.
Being a postie I find 'cretin' most offensive.
Due to security of the 'Queens Mail' we are not allowed to deliver your item to another address so cannot try the other numbers. Posties do though to help the customer but you would be surprised how many neighbours don't get on and the packet is never passed on. If the postie is caught doing this it can be a sackable offence under the conduct code regarding security of the mail. I should know as I am currently under a 2 year suspended dismissal for trying to help a customer in this way. An odd figure I know but we are given 58 seconds per packet call and believe me we like to get rid of your packet as we'd rather not continue carrying it round! Sure, you may have to wait 48 hours but at least you know you'll get it rather than a neighbour stealing it. You don't have to make a special trip either. Once you've got the card through the door you can request the packet be delivered to your home or indeed any other address that your local office covers.
We slog round every day carrying heavy bags in all weathers so please be certain of your facts before insulting people.
G

i've called my postie worse ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on March 10, 2012, 05:11:58 PM
Hi,
Yep, I know it can be frustrating when you get a card through the door. It is for me too as a different office delivers to my house and their callers office closes at noon (while I'm still at work) whilst ours closes at 6pm and as it's a different area I can't get it delivered to our office!
Leaving packets with neighbours, although not allowed, was always done in the past but unfortunately times are changing. In my case it was my regular duty and a customer whose neighbour regularly took things in for them. All of a sudden it was a packet they didn't want their neighbour to know about so complained. Unfortunately my other customers will lose out as I now do everything by the book.
However as pointed out by others there are some posties out there whom want to go home early so don't wait or worse still just leave packets on doorsteps. Of course they never get caught! Now I'm ranting :smiley-laughing:
G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: moogle on March 10, 2012, 05:30:35 PM
Quote from: thebrighton on March 10, 2012, 05:11:58 PM
Hi,
Yep, I know it can be frustrating when you get a card through the door. It is for me too as a different office delivers to my house and their callers office closes at noon (while I'm still at work) whilst ours closes at 6pm and as it's a different area I can't get it delivered to our office!
Leaving packets with neighbours, although not allowed, was always done in the past but unfortunately times are changing. In my case it was my regular duty and a customer whose neighbour regularly took things in for them. All of a sudden it was a packet they didn't want their neighbour to know about so complained. Unfortunately my other customers will lose out as I now do everything by the book.
However as pointed out by others there are some posties out there whom want to go home early so don't wait or worse still just leave packets on doorsteps. Of course they never get caught! Now I'm ranting :smiley-laughing:
G

Hey, its good to have a rant mate, hence this thread!  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on March 10, 2012, 06:16:51 PM
I have enjoyed reading over the 'Postie' thread.

Our postie here in the US has a little van.  He drives up our drive and chucks my parcels onto our doorstep where they remain until we get home (we have been in when he has chucked things).  Also when something needs a signature, he hasn't even bothered ringing the bell, he's just stuck the card on the door and buggered off.  I think if he had to carry the bag he would be keener to get an answer!

Having said that post here is a funny thing compared to the UK... if a parcel doesn't need a signature it is left out in plain sight on the doorstep, and all letters are left in the mailbox out on the street (we don't have letterboxes in the door).  But nothing ever gets nicked.  Unbelievable! :o  But I love that most things get left on the doorstep (and not stolen) so I don't have to wait till Saturday to pick it up.

But, I would also like to thank thebrighton and moogle for both handling the angry post so well.  I thought thebrighton's reply was very well said and moogle was very quick to apologize and correct his post.  Thank you both for dealing with the incident so graciously.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on March 10, 2012, 07:56:33 PM
Hi,
Of course the most ridiculous thing is the rules governing Royal Mail and every other courier firm. The Royal Mail is the 'Queens Mail' and has to adhere to very strict security rules whereas no other courier has any restriction and can leave on doorsteps, with neighbours etc. Of course some of the larger companies will still card you but many are paid per item delivered so anything goes. And as for subsidising our competitors that's another story for another day. No wonder RM is in a mess!
G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 10, 2012, 08:04:57 PM
My curiosity is now piqued, G.
I can see you are an NGS member, but are you keeping what you're up to in N gauge a secret?
I'm not being nosy but just.......................oh, OK, I am being nosy. What are you modelling ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on March 10, 2012, 08:11:25 PM
Things to make you go ... WTF  ???

Today, in Shrewsbury, SWMBO & I popped into a shop that had a young girl (well, in her early 20's anyway !) outside trying to tempt people in (NO ! Not like that !  What kind of shop do you think we'd ... no, don't answer that !  ::)) with a tray of chocolates they were selling ...

"No thanks, it's Lent" says SWMBO.

"Oh no, they're our own" says the girl ...

"No - not Lindt - LENT !" says I ...

"Oh, what's that then ?" she replies, utterly unaware ... ... ...

I ask you !   :o

Mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on March 10, 2012, 08:11:50 PM
Go easy on the Posties boys, I was a relief Postie for over 24 years and worked in 57 different Post Offices and did nearly 300 different rounds, Posties do the best they can but occasionally they like everyone else can make a mistake, yup even Posties are human.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on March 10, 2012, 09:42:40 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 10, 2012, 08:04:57 PM
My curiosity is now piqued, G.
I can see you are an NGS member, but are you keeping what you're up to in N gauge a secret?
I'm not being nosy but just.......................oh, OK, I am being nosy. What are you modelling ???

Are you asking me, if so I have a 5 x 3 n gauge setup which the track is fully laid, the only thing that needs to go on there is the scenery which I have just started with the ballast, I have just put together a base board for a smaller layout 4 x 2 but I have put a halt on this as I have been told by her in doors to make use of the shed, so today I have been busy lining the inside of the shed to put my layout in and I feel it will be an L shape, the size of the shed is 8 x 6 so I am quite chuffed lol by what I am able to get up to in there, I appologise for not posting any pictures but once I have the shed sorted there should be plenty. I do hope this answers your question.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on March 11, 2012, 09:36:37 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 10, 2012, 08:04:57 PM
My curiosity is now piqued, G.
I can see you are an NGS member, but are you keeping what you're up to in N gauge a secret?
I'm not being nosy but just.......................oh, OK, I am being nosy. What are you modelling ???

Hi,
Probably time to move into another section here as not anger related but Horeham Road & Waldron in LBSCR days.
Gareth
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: findus on March 11, 2012, 08:06:41 PM
CURVED FLEXI TRACK!!

enough said.....

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on March 11, 2012, 08:18:44 PM
Eh?  ???

Never made me angry, it's just plastic and metal  ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: findus on March 11, 2012, 08:33:06 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on March 11, 2012, 08:18:44 PM
Eh?  ???

Never made me angry, it's just plastic and metal  ;)


Paul

Trying to lay it is a pain in the you know what.... unless i am missing something
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on March 11, 2012, 08:38:21 PM
Code 80 or 55? If it's 80 then yes it is a bit of a PITA, 55 keeps its shape when you bend it so is easier  :thumbsup:


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 12, 2012, 08:08:30 AM
Quote from: findus on March 11, 2012, 08:33:06 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on March 11, 2012, 08:18:44 PM
Eh?  ???

Never made me angry, it's just plastic and metal  ;)


Paul

Trying to lay it is a pain in the you know what.... unless i am missing something

Hi Findus - have you used tracksettas or are you doing it freehand?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on March 12, 2012, 09:01:18 AM
Very angry tonight, a dear old friend of ours wanted to give a Piano away for free if the person wanting it paid for a Piano Removalist to pick it up.

My Daughter in Law said she would take it and organized a removalist to pick it up, three weeks later we bumped into our old friend who promptly asked if our family member had received the piano, we said yes and found out the lousy bugger hadn't even phoned the old lady to say thank you.

Sorry but I think it is common courtesy to say thank you and please but it seems to be little used in this selfish self centered world and I am peed off.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on March 12, 2012, 09:10:24 AM
Quote from: oldrailbug on March 12, 2012, 09:01:18 AM
Sorry but I think it is common courtesy to say thank you and please but it seems to be little used in this selfish self centered world and I am peed off.

Very true, it costs absolutely nothing to use "please and thank you" and when used they speak volumes  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on March 12, 2012, 03:52:35 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on March 12, 2012, 09:10:24 AM
Quote from: oldrailbug on March 12, 2012, 09:01:18 AM
Sorry but I think it is common courtesy to say thank you and please but it seems to be little used in this selfish self centered world and I am peed off.

Very true, it costs absolutely nothing to use "please and thank you" and when used they speak volumes  :beers:

"Manners maketh the man and they cost you nothing!" .... I can still hear my late father's mantra even now. If I'm honest, the lack of manners these days is one thing that gets my goat up as well!

Jack
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: H on March 16, 2012, 07:50:03 AM
Not exactly enough to make me angry, and certainly not unexpected, but it was still a downer; was the fact that both the new council tax and water rates bills arrived in the post yeasterday. And both have gone up.  :(

H.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on March 16, 2012, 11:27:53 AM
 >:(  the door bell that rang in the middle of the night in our sleepy village last night.
Bit shocked to find a burly policeman on the door step as the culprit.
Situation defused when he apologies to ringing at that hour but it seems that next door had had a 'serious incident' earlier and he needed information from us ASAP.
BUT
it took me 3 hours to get back to sleep  ::)  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on March 16, 2012, 12:07:55 PM
Quote from: jonclox on March 16, 2012, 11:27:53 AM
it took me 3 hours to get back to sleep  ::)  :thumbsdown:

I'm surprised you even managed to get to sleep living next door to psychos  :o  :thumbsdown:  :sleep:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on March 16, 2012, 02:04:01 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on March 16, 2012, 12:07:55 PM
Quote from: jonclox on March 16, 2012, 11:27:53 AM
it took me 3 hours to get back to sleep  ::)  :thumbsdown:

I'm surprised you even managed to get to sleep living next door to psychos  :o  :thumbsdown:  :sleep:
In fairness we didn`t ..........and still don`t....... know what sort of incident, by who, or against who it involved. I'm pretty certain the police were around all night
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: moogle on March 16, 2012, 04:24:52 PM
Yesterday the rear suspension went on the car.  :( It didn't collapse but dips badly in one corner and its not the shocks.
MOT is due in a month so with all the little things that need doing plus that, I'm gonna have to sell it as spares or to a breakers.  :'(
Its just not worth paying out for anymore. Not that I have any money anyway!  :smiley-laughing:

And today, when I had people to phone,  my mobile phone network has been down all day! Aaagghhhh!  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on March 16, 2012, 07:29:25 PM
Sorry to hear about your problems Moogle and I hope things get better for you.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on March 17, 2012, 12:13:59 AM
Sorry to hear your car has had it, Moogle. Hope the breakers don't actually charge you to recycle it... Last time i scrapped a car in the UK, I had to pay them!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Alex on March 18, 2012, 05:44:19 PM
Hi,

Bad news on the car from Moogle.

Went out to the shed today to do a few alterations. Took out two engines to give them a run around the upper layout. First time this year. After aquick oil they went off first time, both hauling freight cars with cleaning pads underneath to clean the track.

Suffered a derailment on one corner, picked up the engine and dropped it on the floor. :o. Both bogies came flying off and other parts of the bodywork. Refitted bogies but now doesn't move.  :'(

I'll strip it down when I get back from Skye/Fort William on Tuesday.

Alex :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on March 18, 2012, 06:08:32 PM
Proper wounder Alex. I really feel for you  :thumbsdown:

Hope you get her working again.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on March 18, 2012, 06:46:41 PM
You'll fix it up fine again mate, enjoy Skye  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 18, 2012, 06:56:01 PM
Hope you get her working again, Alex :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Alex on March 18, 2012, 07:31:19 PM
Hi guys,

Thanks. There's probably something inside that has come loose with the impact. Hopefully it won't be too bad.

Alex
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on March 18, 2012, 07:40:16 PM
Just found someone using MY photos (ie the ones I took myself !) on an eBay sale for THEIR sale !  Am not happy, at all !

Mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on March 18, 2012, 07:43:34 PM
So report it to ebay. They tend to act on such things especially if you can provide the auction #s dates etc for the originals to show them. They'll take ages about it but will do it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on March 18, 2012, 07:44:32 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on March 18, 2012, 07:40:16 PM
Just found someone using MY photos (ie the ones I took myself !) on an eBay sale for THEIR sale !  Am not happy, at all !

Mike

Contact them Mike, and tell them that the photo is yours and it is copyrighted, also let them know you are going to contact ebay.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on March 18, 2012, 08:11:14 PM
I have done ... but have little expectation on eBay's timescales :(

Next time - I'm clearly watermarking the damn things !

Mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Alex on March 18, 2012, 09:07:44 PM
Hi,

Just had 3-4 muppets break into my greenhouse. They stole a spade and some long handled secaters. They then climbed on top of a shed and started to cut down one of my trees. Then they went over to the graveyard behind us and started to dig up the grass.

Called the Police but they are busy hunting for a couple of thugs.

Just one of those days I suppose.

Alex
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on March 18, 2012, 09:08:56 PM
That is unbelievable Alex, what the heck were they thinking   :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Alex on March 18, 2012, 09:14:15 PM
Hi Lawrence,

Hopefully they won't come back. I'm away tomorrow and won't be back until Tuesday. Might go on patrol later tonight.

Alex
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Donkey on March 18, 2012, 09:46:07 PM
Quote from: alex crawford on March 18, 2012, 09:14:15 PM
Hi Lawrence,

Hopefully they won't come back. I'm away tomorrow and won't be back until Tuesday. Might go on patrol later tonight.

Alex

Be careful Alex, you don't know what these idiots might do! Also if you end up clipping one round the ear etc I have no doubt the police will be after you instead of them. Take care mate!

Marty
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Alex on March 18, 2012, 09:55:57 PM
Hi Donkey,

Two words:  Black Watch :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Donkey on March 18, 2012, 10:01:56 PM
Nuff said Alex  :thumbsup:

Marty
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on March 19, 2012, 05:09:00 AM
Went to the cheap shop and bought 3 different size knives to shape the insulation foam on my new scenery, it worked a treat until I cut the end off my finger, left hand (ouch), why am I angry ?, because I was stupid enough to do it and with a lot of work coming up for our country/rock band and me playing guitar I am gonna experience some pretty intensive pain pressing on the strings, today Monday next gig Thursday.

On a brighter note the scenery is coming out great and the layout will always be No1 after SWMBO.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ianb1303 on March 19, 2012, 06:12:18 AM
And now there's blood all over the new scenery.......OW

hope it feels better soon.........dont you feel silly though
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on March 19, 2012, 07:01:14 AM

Quote from: ianb1303 on March 19, 2012, 06:12:18 AM
And now there's blood all over the new scenery.......OW

hope it feels better soon.........dont you feel silly though

Reminds me of a song "Red River Rock"....  ;D

Sorry - I'll get my coat.

Jack
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 19, 2012, 08:24:52 AM
Ouch!
I can only suggest you stick the poorly finger in a tube and play bottleneck :music: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ianb1303 on March 19, 2012, 08:43:01 AM
Quote from: oldrailbug on March 19, 2012, 05:09:00 AM
Went to the cheap shop and bought 3 different size knives to shape the insulation foam on my new scenery, it worked a treat until I cut the end off my finger, left hand (ouch), why am I angry ?, because I was stupid enough to do it and with a lot of work coming up for our country/rock band and me playing guitar I am gonna experience some pretty intensive pain pressing on the strings, today Monday next gig Thursday.

On a brighter note the scenery is coming out great and the layout will always be No1 after SWMBO.

As a clarinet player, I can sympathise, it would be extremely difficult for me to play if I lopped off part of my finger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dock Shunter on March 19, 2012, 10:54:58 AM
Being a Bass Player who plays finger style and is also prone to hacking bits off the end of my fingers while modelling i undestand how you feel Dave.......
And it always happens when you have a few gigs lined up......
Hope the gigs go well Dave..... :music:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on March 19, 2012, 11:14:18 AM
Hope you're well on the mend by Thursday Dave.

Did you superglue it? Hold the cit bits tight together and put superglue gel arond the outside of the cut and hold till it dries. I sliced the end off my thumb a couple of years ago and glued it back on.  Healed quite quickly too. The hard part was matching up the fingerprint under the magnifier. In fact i sliced into a finger yesterday ( you know, when the fingertip is just over the edge of the steel rule) and out came the glue.

They use it in hospitals instead of stitches, except hospital superglue has blue colour in it. I watched them do it when my son split his lip, i thought that was genius. Though they did tell us it is not for use on the face in case it gets in your eyes.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on March 19, 2012, 11:35:35 AM
Quote from: oldrailbug on March 19, 2012, 05:09:00 AM
Went to the cheap shop and bought 3 different size knives to shape the insulation foam on my new scenery, it worked a treat until I cut the end off my finger, left hand (ouch), why am I angry ?, because I was stupid enough to do it and with a lot of work coming up for our country/rock band and me playing guitar I am gonna experience some pretty intensive pain pressing on the strings, today Monday next gig Thursday.

On a brighter note the scenery is coming out great and the layout will always be No1 after SWMBO.
Oh dear not good news.
I hope the finger soon heals and that you will be ok playing for the gig.
..............and of course that the scenery will be ok on the layout
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on March 19, 2012, 04:23:22 PM
Medical superglue is a bit different. Ordinary superglue is strongly exothermic so in any quantity can also burn when applied to an injury. Works a treat though for things like nails you've split with a misdirected tool.

I've since found out there are women who paint their nails with superglue to stop them chipping !

You can buy armoured gloves. They look a handy adjunct to some of the small electric saws
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on March 19, 2012, 04:28:36 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on March 19, 2012, 04:23:22 PM
You can buy armoured gloves. They look a handy adjunct to some of the small electric saws
NOW I find out  :o :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on March 19, 2012, 04:34:44 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on March 19, 2012, 04:28:36 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on March 19, 2012, 04:23:22 PM
You can buy armoured gloves. They look a handy adjunct to some of the small electric saws
NOW I find out  :o :'(
:smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Yup they arnt expensive either
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kevlar-Cut-RESISTANT-Heat-Resistant-Gloves-Gardening-DIY-Building-General-Use-/270919090909?pt=UK_Home_Garden_GardenEquipment_HandTools_SM&hash=item3f140942dd (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kevlar-Cut-RESISTANT-Heat-Resistant-Gloves-Gardening-DIY-Building-General-Use-/270919090909?pt=UK_Home_Garden_GardenEquipment_HandTools_SM&hash=item3f140942dd)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on March 19, 2012, 04:39:21 PM
Although these would look a lot cooler 8)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Medieval-Gauntlets-Iron-Gloves-SCA-Gauntlet-Stunning-quality-replica-armour-/160764500905?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item256e4f9ba9 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Medieval-Gauntlets-Iron-Gloves-SCA-Gauntlet-Stunning-quality-replica-armour-/160764500905?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item256e4f9ba9)

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on March 19, 2012, 04:43:30 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on March 19, 2012, 04:39:21 PM
Although these would look a lot cooler 8)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Medieval-Gauntlets-Iron-Gloves-SCA-Gauntlet-Stunning-quality-replica-armour-/160764500905?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item256e4f9ba9 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Medieval-Gauntlets-Iron-Gloves-SCA-Gauntlet-Stunning-quality-replica-armour-/160764500905?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item256e4f9ba9)



That's it - throw down the gauntlet  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on March 19, 2012, 04:57:52 PM
Hi EP, i'm sure there must be some differences with the medical stuff, and there are a lot of Loctite formulations for different applications, but as far as i know the medical stuff under the trade name Prism is cyano acrylate in gel form, chemically very similar to superglue gel.

In the tiny amounts it takes to glue a cut i have found superglue gel doesnt even feel warm and doesnt sting the cut. I wouldnt use ordinary liquid superglue as that might get into the cut and hurt like hell.  The gel works much better than a band-aid.

The other cool thing is that it stays stuck just about as long as the cut takes to start to heal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on March 19, 2012, 05:01:28 PM
Quote from: Mustermark on March 19, 2012, 04:57:52 PM
In the tiny amounts it takes to glue a cut i have found superglue gel doesnt even feel warm and doesnt sting the cut. I wouldnt use ordinary liquid superglue as that might get into the cut and hurt like hell.  The gel works much better than a band-aid.

Oh agreed - I'm not saying it doesn't work. I've tested it several times 8)

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on March 19, 2012, 08:37:28 PM
Mmmmm glue it back on?, I would if I could find it but I think I threw it out with a load of styrene shavings, all I can say is its throbbing like buggery this morning, oh well whatever will be will be.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: brbluewill on March 19, 2012, 09:40:44 PM
I HATE BALLASTING :(

sorry just had to get it out my system ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on March 19, 2012, 09:54:03 PM
Quote from: gwrwill on March 19, 2012, 09:40:44 PM
I HATE BALLASTING :(

sorry just had to get it out my system ;D ;D ;D

:smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: thats why I am going to give my new layout a very light ballast job.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on March 19, 2012, 10:57:45 PM
Quote from: Mustermark on March 19, 2012, 11:14:18 AM
They use it in hospitals instead of stitches, except hospital superglue has blue colour in it. I watched them do it when my son split his lip, i thought that was genius. Though they did tell us it is not for use on the face in case it gets in your eyes.

Eh? Where's your son's lip then? Or are they saying it's ok for them to do but not you?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on March 19, 2012, 11:14:56 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on March 19, 2012, 10:57:45 PM
Quote from: Mustermark on March 19, 2012, 11:14:18 AM
They use it in hospitals instead of stitches, except hospital superglue has blue colour in it. I watched them do it when my son split his lip, i thought that was genius. Though they did tell us it is not for use on the face in case it gets in your eyes.

Eh? Where's your son's lip then? Or are they saying it's ok for them to do but not you?

The kind young doc told us that if he did glue Nathan's lip that we were to deny that it ever happened.  If he had stitched it he would've had the 'sewing scars' and the edge of his lip would have been wonky.  Nathan promised not to move, and I have never seen a two year old lie so completely still.  So the doc kindly glued it anyway and you can't even see any sign of a scar... in the end it was all fine and nobody got sued over anything.  That was 16 years ago.  I dare say it'd be more than anybody's job is worth these days.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on March 19, 2012, 11:17:53 PM
Quote from: oldrailbug on March 19, 2012, 08:37:28 PM
Mmmmm glue it back on?, I would if I could find it but I think I threw it out with a load of styrene shavings, all I can say is its throbbing like buggery this morning, oh well whatever will be will be.

:smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: LMAO.

I concede that rescuing it from a bucket of styrene shavings and gluing it back on now might be complete folly.

I bet it is throbbing.  I feel for you.  I will be thinking of you playing guitar on Thu.  That is not going to be fun. :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on March 20, 2012, 07:40:17 AM
My brother in law is bed ridden in a nursing home and asked us to get a TV for him to watch.We got him a Samsung TV.

The thick instruction manual had the first four pages in English and the rest in several other languages,that's okay I can read English,the problem is the instructions basically just show where all the different wires supplied connect,in this case just the ariel and the mains.

There are no instructions as to how to actually tune the TV in.!!!

There is a DVD with instructions on it but it doesn't work on a Mac......why do manufacturers presume that everyone has access to a PC or that the PC will even be on the same floor as the TV.
After a lot of button pressing with no progress I eventually got a picture,but no sound.
I gave up and called a friend who used to run a well known shop in town,he arrived and got to the set up menu and the initial set up I did was tuned to an Austrian transmitter it seems.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on March 20, 2012, 08:16:29 AM
Believe me, there's some good stuff on Austrian TV, not sure it would be suitable for your brother in law in his position though. I hope he's going to be ok  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on March 20, 2012, 12:27:02 PM
Not a happy bunny,
Just opened a new pot of Humbrol. Acrylic paint and somehow
managed to knock it over,
Only wanted to use a little bit to paint some detail on a Ratio signal kit.
NOW HAVE AN ALL BLACK SIGNAL KIT  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on March 20, 2012, 12:49:30 PM
Quote from: Oldman on March 20, 2012, 12:27:02 PM
NOW HAVE AN ALL BLACK SIGNAL KIT  :thumbsdown:

... and a rugby kit as well - Haka Haka Haka  :evil:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: 1936ace on March 21, 2012, 02:39:19 AM
What is going on with our postal service? Either someone has a liking to the model i have chosen to purchase(and can do my signature) or the mail systems are rubbish. or is there another reason?
Ordered a class 26 in br blue in Oct 2011 but it went wayward and the shop said they would resend a replacement only to say the 26 is no longer available so i had to choose a refund or something else as they could not use my payment to go towards pre orders so a 3 car 108 dmu was sent out on the 30/1/12 but it too has gone missing so after about 20 emails another replacement for the replacement has been sent, fingers crossed this time.
By the way anyone know of class 26 in br blue still in shops or if dapol are going to do another run?
Up until now i have had a good run of about 40 odd orders with the same shop, but this one must not like me!
Bart
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on March 21, 2012, 04:43:34 AM
After working for Aust Post for over 24 years nothing surprises me, when I left their employment I had to sign a form that meant I was sworn to silence regarding the postal system, no sense in opening a can of worms here.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on March 21, 2012, 07:36:42 AM
My son sent a Fathers day card with some money in by recorded delivery,I wasn't in and the post person left a card.The item went missing after the attempted delivery.....lost,I don't think so and on reflection I wish I'd gone to the police.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: 1936ace on March 21, 2012, 08:53:37 AM
i was starting to think also; did the shop ever post it as like i said the every other order from the uk in the last 18mths and there has been too many according to the wife have made it very quickly,
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on March 21, 2012, 12:42:19 PM
Quote from: oldrailbug on March 21, 2012, 04:43:34 AM
After working for Aust Post for over 24 years nothing surprises me, when I left their employment I had to sign a form that meant I was sworn to silence regarding the postal system, no sense in opening a can of worms here.

Does .au not work the way the UK does on this ?

The procedure here seems to be

Silenced ex-employees write to MP explaining they've been silenced and can't talk about what goes on
MPs see enough of these reports to decide something is being hidden
MPs decide to hold an inquiry and call them as witnesses
Underwear gets aired


I know a little bit about how the Royal Mail try and deal with "lost" (as in requisitioned) products. They do statistical analysis of loss rates and look for where they go missing most, see if it correlates to employee shifts, particular people on a round etc, and then investigate.

So reporting all helps.

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: moogle on March 21, 2012, 01:06:39 PM
Couriers can be no better.
I worked for a catalogue company once who's customers ordered, amongst other things, cases of wine.
Now due to the way most courier companies work, especially the big ones, items do get damaged or go missing from time to time.
Christmas was naturally a busy time of year but it was amazing how many more missing cases of wine there was then compared to the rest of the year!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on March 21, 2012, 01:40:09 PM
When I got made redundant over 10 years ago I was doing jobs for agencies and I went to work for a courier company as a fill in before I started the job I have now, I was based in the depot and worked 12 hour nights, and the things that went on is unbelievable, I was put with a young lad and he did not care about other folks parcels, at 11pm a 40' wagon came in and me and this young lad had to unload it of parcels they came in all shape and sizes, there must of been between 3000 and 5000 parcels on there and all we had to do was put the parcels on a conveyor belt, but oh no this lad had to throw them off the wagon, there was no supervision just a manager who wanted to be in his office with his feet up, no one cared what happened to anything, I have to say I do not use this parcel company to send my parcels, what I have been told the same thing happens now, cheap labour means big trouble, no supervision means big trouble sending your parcel via a certain company means big trouble.

I always use the post office for my parcels I have never had a problem with breakages with them.

I know folks have there own opinion of different couriers but I think the post office is more efficient, yes there are mistakes but in the long run it is a trusted service.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: hairygit on March 21, 2012, 02:34:27 PM
Maybe you should name and shame that company so we can all avoid it!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on March 21, 2012, 02:40:33 PM
Quote from: hairygit on March 21, 2012, 02:34:27 PM
Maybe you should name and shame that company so we can all avoid it!

Not publicly on the forum please, we can't afford the lawsuit  ;D

I am sure Geoff would provide the info by pm if requested though  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on March 21, 2012, 03:59:00 PM
Yep no naming and shaming from me but if you are in a need to know basis then send me a pm, it certainly opened my eyes.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on March 26, 2012, 08:14:23 AM
Just had a bit of a mixed fortune weekend, been in the shed all day Sunday and I have nearly finished laying the track of my branch line, so while laying the line I thought I would run the Diesels I have on the loop that is already in place, the class 24 went like a dream but when the class 66 was put on the track it shorted, I think my soldering was a bit suspect when fitting the decoder, I was just wondering will it be the decoder that is knackered or will it be the motor?

I am fuming with myself, but there again I am happy with the progress I made must get pictures posted.

Another question is there a device to be had for testing decoders?

:thumbsdown:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on March 26, 2012, 08:45:24 AM
Quote from: Geoff on March 26, 2012, 08:14:23 AM
Just had a bit of a mixed fortune weekend, been in the shed all day Sunday and I have nearly finished laying the track of my branch line, so while laying the line I thought I would run the Diesels I have on the loop that is already in place, the class 24 went like a dream but when the class 66 was put on the track it shorted, I think my soldering was a bit suspect when fitting the decoder, I was just wondering will it be the decoder that is knackered or will it be the motor?

I am fuming with myself, but there again I am happy with the progress I made must get pictures posted.

Another question is there a device to be had for testing decoders?

:thumbsdown:  :thumbsup:

Good ol Google - http://compare.ebay.co.uk/like/310378597781?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&cbt=y (http://compare.ebay.co.uk/like/310378597781?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&cbt=y)   :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on March 26, 2012, 08:46:03 AM
Put it on a programming track and see if you can read the CVs.

The last decoder I installed I thought I'd cream crackered it because it could have shorted out,the problem turned out to be poorly adjusted pick ups on a Farish steamer.
You can buy decoder testers,but I can't remember which site I saw them on.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Crackerbill on March 26, 2012, 10:14:08 AM
There is a decoder tester available from DCC Supplies (www.dccsupplies.com (http://www.dccsupplies.com)) at £36.41 - ESU 51900decoder tester.

I have one of these and find it invaluable for testing decoders before fitting.

The decoder tester has various inputs for the differing types of decoder for operation and lights along with a speaker for testing sound. 

Regards
Bill
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on March 26, 2012, 11:48:56 AM
******* cars, went to check the rear brakes and had to remove the dust covers to get the rear drums off.  Totally messed one up.
Got  to order new ones from Subaru  Japan. :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on March 26, 2012, 12:42:34 PM
That is annoying for sure.  I guess it will take awhile to arrive from Japan too.  Why dont they stock them in the UK?

Apologies for my edits. We have to be careful with any not so disguised bad words on the open forum.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on March 27, 2012, 11:36:10 AM
Yet again the country calls on its armed forces to bail it out domestically as these kids who probably earn 16-19k a year are going to cover for tanker drivers who earn 45k a year and want to go on strike at the Easter weekend because they are not getting improved pensions and they have to work a bit harder.

Any one of these military guys who are standing in would happily swap their pay and conditions with those of the tanker driver for a couple of months.

Every time this country needs bailed out we turn to our forces yet this government is insistent on cutting then to the core, soon we wont even be able to match that global military force that is Belgium! Once the tankers are sorted it will be off to provide security for the olympics to cut costs there.  Last year they were out shovelling tons of snow because council workers couldn't get in or didn't want to work extra hours.

These lads and lassies get paid peanuts, don't get overtime and just get on with it.  They even have to use their own annual leave entitlement if they want to go and work 16 hour days at Wimbledon or the Royal Tournament, something that used to be a perk (and they don't get food & accommodation)

Not happy, this country is turning into a flaming joke  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: StufromEGDL on March 27, 2012, 11:47:31 AM
Hi Guys,

Echo what Lawrence says above entirely...
I won't be getting involved in tanker driving, possibly the Olympics.

As an alternate view, those of us 'covering' for Wimbledon volunteers get pi**ed off with them...

Later,
Stu from EGDL
:Class89:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: StufromEGDL on March 27, 2012, 11:50:58 AM
Hi Gang,

Best stock up with your stamps before the end of April.
The robbing management gits at Royal Mail are at it again....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17522500 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17522500)

Later,
Stu from EGDL

:Class89:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on March 27, 2012, 12:35:04 PM
Quote from: StufromEGDL on March 27, 2012, 11:50:58 AM
Hi Gang,

Best stock up with your stamps before the end of April.
The robbing management gits at Royal Mail are at it again....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17522500 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17522500)


It is a big hike but not the fault of RM management this time. Postcomm kept the cost of a 1st class stamp artificially low for years so all are delivered at a loss. Unfortunately RM is no longer a service but a business and the new regulator Offcom is allowing RM to actually compete aaginst its competitors. Of course there is no competitor out there prepared to deliver a letter for you by the next day as it is very hard to make it profitable. If it weren't for Postcomm the cost of a 1st class stamp would have increased sensibly over the years rather than jumping. Try finding anyone else to deliver a letter anywhere in the country the next day for 60p.
Gareth
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 27, 2012, 12:53:01 PM
Personally I don't have an issue with the new prices (most of my communication is made by e mail), but this will impact on charges by mail order shops which, along with increased costs of products coming in from China, is going to start hitting us modellers where it hurts :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: StufromEGDL on March 27, 2012, 02:23:27 PM
Hi Guys;

Disregarding the political/management issues....I'll still be stocking up before the end of April.

Guess E-Bay P&P will be getting even more extreme now also!!!

Later;
STU from EGDL
:Class37:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: HellsGuardian316 on March 27, 2012, 02:28:54 PM
Well, all I can say is the Royal mail is still te only service I know of that can get your letter from Groats to Lands end for 46p in 1-2days  :smiley-laughing:


Granted that it still takes just as much and as long to deliver to my next door neighbour, but hey, could be worse  ;D

The price increase is however still quite minimal compared to other services provided because no other service is prepared to handle letters at the same price that Royal Mail does despite the impending increase. Most other courriers only deal with larger packets, or have set prices regardless of size.

I've got no doubt that RM will see a further decline in people using their services, which lets face it, if it costs you 60p to send a letter compared to 0p for an email then your logically going to go for the cheaper option if you can.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on March 27, 2012, 03:27:20 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on March 27, 2012, 11:36:10 AM
Any one of these military guys who are standing in would happily swap their pay and conditions with those of the tanker driver for a couple of months.

Or start their own tanker business.... nothing stops them once they've left the army and they'll be trained for it. If it was such a nice cushy arrangement with tons of money being made - someone would be doing it right already.

To me there is a much bigger problem though. Soldiers are trained day in and day out for a relatively black and white world of us, them and the people running screaming from both (whom you aren't supposed to blow up). So many times when the UK has deployed the military for home security it has ended in tragedy sometimes ones that whose repercussions lasted for years. Boston massacre, Peterloo, Amritsar, Croke Park, Bloody Sunday, etc etc ....

Plus a vast list of minor disasters like the Llanell riots, Tonypandy and so on.

Deploying them for bits of the Olympics is just asking for history to repeat itself.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on March 27, 2012, 03:47:34 PM
Allan - given that redundancy payments have recently been chopped massively (about 3 months pay equivalent irrespective of length of service and no pension till 60), your average gunner, AB or aircraftman coming out couldn't afford a second hand car never mind a tanker!

As for homeland security - that is not what they are trained for and it is a whole different ball game
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on March 27, 2012, 04:18:07 PM
Fire Brigade go on strike and out come the army with Green Goddesses. What will the army be driving for the fuel strike - old Spitfire refuelling bowsers?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on March 27, 2012, 05:33:54 PM
Quote from: Kipper on March 27, 2012, 04:18:07 PM
Fire Brigade go on strike and out come the army with Green Goddesses. What will the army be driving for the fuel strike - old Spitfire refuelling bowsers?

Note that the Green Goddesses have gone - next fire strike they are going to be stuffed.

The army currently has a lot of experience running fuel conveys (while being shot at) in Afghanistan. I suspect any picketing will seem quite tame 8)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on March 27, 2012, 05:34:18 PM
Quote from: Kipper on March 27, 2012, 04:18:07 PM
Fire Brigade go on strike and out come the army with Green Goddesses. What will the army be driving for the fuel strike - old Spitfire refuelling bowsers?

In the late 70s when I was serving in the Army in Northern Ireland, the tanker drivers went on strike and the Army drove into the tanker parks slapped "Government Vehicle" stickers on the tank side and the doors of the cab units and drive them out full. It didn't matter what oil company, BP, Shell, what ever, they were loaded and used.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RichardBattersby on March 27, 2012, 08:36:26 PM
Angry with myself!  :( :thumbsdown: >:(  What an idiot.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 27, 2012, 09:17:32 PM
Quote from: RichardBattersby on March 27, 2012, 08:36:26 PM
Angry with myself!  :( :thumbsdown: >:(  What an idiot.

Sorry Richard, but you have lost me. Why are you angry with yourself ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on April 04, 2012, 07:07:18 PM

No so much angry just very annoyed!!!  >:(

I've taken my time in layout planning using Anyrail, every thing was fine so I thought I'd download the Peco templates just to make sure that everything worked out in full size.

They don't list Code 55 so thinking that the Code 80 was the same size as Code 55, I started using them and then began to wonder why my plans weren't working out right.  :thumbsdown:

I double checked all my plans, I've got 8 double slips to fit in and as Peco don't do D/S templates so I used the Long Cross one as it was the same size as a D/S. Yes, according to the Peco catalogue, with Code 55 they were both 154mm. The only problem is that the Code 80 Long Cross is 187mm!!  ::)

I've spend the last couple of weeks or so playing with the Peco templates believing that Code 80 sizes were the same size as Code 55. WRONG!!

Why oh why didn't I check to see that there were differences between the two Codes. ::)



Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on April 04, 2012, 07:30:54 PM
Because then you would not have been able to teach the rest of us a valuable lesson Jack, so there is a plus side  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dr deltic on April 04, 2012, 09:30:06 PM
Tanker drivers take the mick. Dangerous job yes, but its their career choice!

As for risk, my lads used to work 30x 100T loaded tanks everyday from Humber to Kingsbury, or how about 1000 ton of LPG....
Not on the roads agreed but same outcome if it went wrong.

Biggest risk was when some enterprising farmer decided to rob the tankers while waiting for the signal at Stenson Jn, running pipes into top of tanks and then using pump sets to store in bowser's hidden in caravans!!
Got caught after a jealous neighbour shopped him as he wouldn't share!

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on April 04, 2012, 09:54:40 PM

QuoteTanker drivers take the mick. Dangerous job yes, but its their career choice

I totally agree!! I used to drive road tankers some 15 years ago. You couldn't move for safety regs and training even back then!! They seem to be hiding behind H&S rules and proper training, but everyone knows want they're really after.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Zunnan on April 07, 2012, 02:53:37 PM
Taking it away from for tankers, but sticking to the road a moment....Taxi drivers, not black cabs, I don't and won't use those, but private hire cars.

70mph in a built up area, and the stupid rectal discharge of a driver wonders why I demand he stops, and then threatens ME when I refuse to pay him for risking our lives. The missus has footage on her phone of both his driving and his behaviour afterwards, which is now with the police and the taxi firm. I hope to see him on the dole queue ASAP. This isn't the first time I've had to put up with dangerous driving from muppets with a sticker on the door, round here they're a bloody menace on the roads, but it was by far the worst yet.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on April 07, 2012, 04:22:07 PM
My Flaming Printer!!!!!!!!

My Lexmark printer wasn't printing any colour, power cycled said printer....Nothing.

Clean the heads.....Nothing!!!!. Deep clean heads....Nothing!!!!

Went onto Lexmark website and followed FAQ's instructions:

Remove colour Cartrdiges and used a damp lint free cloth to encourage ink flow, plenty of ink flow on cloth, replaced cartridges. Fired up printer again, print test page and.............................NOTHING, ZIP, NADA!!!!!

Back to instructions.......Remove and clean Print head, did this cleaned Printhead with Damp cloth now getting colour and black streaks on cloth, excellent!!!!!

Replaced Printhead into printer, power cycle printer, as per instructions.

NOW THE EFFING PRINTER WON'T PRINT AT ALL  >:( >:( >:(

Keeps saying "There is a problem with the printhead" I have taken it out so many times, I'm about ready to chuck the flaming thing through the window.

Oh and Lexmark Telephone Support only work Monday to Friday 9-5:30 AAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Regards

Neal.

P.S. At least Leicester are beating Doncaster, the only bright part of my day today  ::) ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Alex on April 07, 2012, 05:03:17 PM
Hi Neal,

Have you tried cleaning the contacts between the printer and the cartridges. Are the printheads seperate or are they part of the cartridges?

Alex
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: SymonC on April 07, 2012, 05:05:42 PM
Quote from: Zunnan on April 07, 2012, 02:53:37 PM
Taking it away from for tankers, but sticking to the road a moment....Taxi drivers, not black cabs, I don't and won't use those, but private hire cars.

70mph in a built up area, and the stupid rectal discharge of a driver wonders why I demand he stops, and then threatens ME when I refuse to pay him for risking our lives. The missus has footage on her phone of both his driving and his behaviour afterwards, which is now with the police and the taxi firm. I hope to see him on the dole queue ASAP. This isn't the first time I've had to put up with dangerous driving from muppets with a sticker on the door, round here they're a bloody menace on the roads, but it was by far the worst yet.

Perhaps you shouldn't have shouted "Follow that car!" as you got in  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on April 07, 2012, 05:17:07 PM
Quote from: alex crawford on April 07, 2012, 05:03:17 PM
Hi Neal,

Have you tried cleaning the contacts between the printer and the cartridges. Are the printheads seperate or are they part of the cartridges?

Alex

Alex,

Yep done that, the Pinthead is a cassette of some sort, that the Cartridges fit into. The Head is part of the cassette.

I've cleaned just about everything I can, but it just doesn't want to work. I'll leave it for now and call Tech Support on Tuesday, it's still under warranty, fortunately.

Cheers

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: AndyGif on April 07, 2012, 06:01:19 PM
Lexmark i haven't got a good word to say about the cost of the consumables  ie ink or toner.
On two occasions now its  worked out cheaper to replace the whole printer with the exact same model rather replace the inks  or toner.
Talk about a throw away society or what.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on April 07, 2012, 07:46:07 PM
My Lexmark used ink that was so expensive that even Lexmark stopped supplying it (cartridge either No1 or No2, can't remember which now), so I had to buy refills off the web. Finally gave up early this year, with the same symptoms as yours. Binned it and bought a Kodak, just before they went into administration! Same printer is now at half the price I paid.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Zunnan on April 07, 2012, 08:02:52 PM
Quote from: SymonC on April 07, 2012, 05:05:42 PM
Perhaps you shouldn't have shouted "Follow that car!" as you got in  ;)

Maybe you can find the amusement in doing 70mph in a 30mph area with cars parked on both sides of the road narrowing it so much that only one direction of traffic can flow when the road is occupied, in the middle of the afternoon...during a school half term. I however think it was absolutely disgusting, not only for the safety of me and the missus but also other road users and pedestrians, no amount of jest can excuse what happened. Have a look at THIS ROAD (http://g.co/maps/trdd9) and see if you think it suitable for that kind of speed.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: SymonC on April 07, 2012, 08:05:31 PM
Quote from: Zunnan on April 07, 2012, 08:02:52 PM
Quote from: SymonC on April 07, 2012, 05:05:42 PM
Perhaps you shouldn't have shouted "Follow that car!" as you got in  ;)

Maybe you can find the amusement in doing 70mph in a 30mph area with cars parked on both sides of the road narrowing it so much that only one direction of traffic can flow when the road is occupied, in the middle of the afternoon...during a school half term. I however think it was absolutely disgusting, not only for the safety of me and the missus but also other road users and pedestrians, no amount of jest can excuse what happened. Have a look at THIS ROAD (http://g.co/maps/trdd9) and see if you think it suitable for that kind of speed.

I totally agree with you, it was just my attempt at a bit of humour!

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tcinbg on April 07, 2012, 09:06:11 PM
Quote from: Jack9465 on April 04, 2012, 07:07:18 PM
They don't list Code 55

Jack,

Although code 55 is not listed, a nice e-mail to PECO asking for the code 55 templates usually gets a positive reply.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on April 07, 2012, 09:16:21 PM
Quote from: tcinbg on April 07, 2012, 09:06:11 PM
Quote from: Jack9465 on April 04, 2012, 07:07:18 PM
They don't list Code 55

Jack,

Although code 55 is not listed, a nice e-mail to PECO asking for the code 55 templates usually gets a positive reply.

Thanks tcinbg, I did actually sent a nice email to PECO and received a reply yesterday (which surprised me as its a Bank Holiday) with all the templates for Code 55.

Like you say - a positive outcome.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: keerout on April 08, 2012, 03:14:57 PM
Quote from: tcinbg on April 07, 2012, 09:06:11 PM
Quote from: Jack9465 on April 04, 2012, 07:07:18 PM
They don't list Code 55

Jack,

Although code 55 is not listed, a nice e-mail to PECO asking for the code 55 templates usually gets a positive reply.
I sent two very nice E-mails, from the "contact us" button on their web-site & never an answer.. so I got Rail modeler instead, worked out fine!
Gerard.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on April 12, 2012, 09:19:48 AM
Not so much angry as slightly annoyed.
Went out to get the last bits of track I needed and still managed to come away short of one bit of flexi track . :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on April 12, 2012, 04:03:55 PM
Gah why can't ethernet hubs just go "plink" like lightbulbs instead of making me spend hours chasing down a mysterious problem with the network.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on April 12, 2012, 05:04:29 PM
Just had my Sony Android phone die,touch screen keeps blanking and slide out keyboard dead. It's out of warranty so had to dig out the prehistoric Version 1  Google G1 Android phone (version 1.6).Lost all my  apps and data that were installed, they don't run on the old version. >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tgv_obsessed on April 12, 2012, 06:26:46 PM
10 years ago or so, I flew Ryan Air to Italy and when we landed the announcer said "for your convenience only the front doors will open". My blood still boils at the idiocy of that statement.

Oh and on a later flight, when they were telling us all about the cost of transfers or mars bars or whatever, even though these people are native english speakers, they didn't pluralise the word Euro. So a coffee was three Euro (or whatever it was) and not Euros.

You XXXXing morons, even toddlers as they are learning to speak shove an s on the end of everything because they've realised that thats how you indicate that there is more than one. That makes me want to headbutt the wall repeatedly, even after all these years.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: galway on April 12, 2012, 06:55:07 PM
Quote from: tgv_obsessed on April 12, 2012, 06:26:46 PM
Oh and on a later flight, when they were telling us all about the cost of transfers or mars bars or whatever, even though these people are native english speakers, they didn't pluralise the word Euro. So a coffee was three Euro (or whatever it was) and not Euros.



Sorry to annoy you even further  :evil:, but, being from the only English speaking country that has the Euro as its currency, I would have to say that you can use either Euro or Euros, people here will say either or both, in the same way they will say cent or cents  :smiley-laughing:

If I have a 10 Euro note it is only one note but I can call it 10 Euros if I want (actually if I have 10 Euros then SWMBO has obviously made a mistake with my allowance or she expects change :()
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: SymonC on April 12, 2012, 07:02:18 PM
The following things I find annoying :

People writing should of and could of instead of should have (or should've) and could have (could've)

The term "A big ask" . How can an ask be big?  What is an ask?  It's a big task is surely the correct term.

Also, a bit like the euro thing above people who say "one pence" when it should be "one penny" (Take a look at what is written on a 1p coin!)

Finally why do people have so much trouble spelling the word Definitely?

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 12, 2012, 07:57:40 PM
With you 100% Symon, but best not get me started as far as grammar and spelling goes :computerangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on April 12, 2012, 11:59:20 PM
And what about the youngsters (and some not quite so youngsters) who ask if they can get something?
"Can I get a Big Mac and fries?" makes my blood boil. No, you can't get a Big Mac but you can have one. If I worked in that McDonalds I would say, "Yes, you can get a Big Mac" and then watch them to see if they actually do what they are asking to do and which I have given permission for them to do. Don't get me started on the fries/chips thing either.


Please note McDonalds has only been used as it's the sort of place this is said. I'm not a frequent customer although I do like their double sausage and muffin breakfast meal  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on April 13, 2012, 12:17:34 AM
What I take great delight in is when asked "Can I ask you a question?"
I reply "Of course you can, you have the power of speech."

Usually their next utterance is "What?" normally pronouced "Wat?"
I reply "Watt developed the steam engine or it is also a unit of power."

By this time they are baffled so I have to explain why, in the first instance, they should have asked
"May I ask you a question?"
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on April 13, 2012, 12:31:00 AM
Quote from: scotsoft on April 13, 2012, 12:17:34 AM
What I take great delight in is when asked "Can I ask you a question?"
I reply "Of course you can, you have the power of speech."

Lots of people seem to ask that these days. My response is always "You just did".

Another annoyance along these lines and which I was talking to the wife about a couple of days ago is interviewees asking their own questions. This seems to be a very recent bad habit especially with football managers and MPs. They will quite happily sit there and say, "Did we have the right people out there today? I don't think so. Will there be any changes next week? Yes of course there will be."
I'll let you decide whether that was the football manager or the MP.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ddolfelin on April 13, 2012, 07:54:43 AM
"If I have a 10 Euro note it is only one note but I can call it 10 Euros if I want"

What do you call a three euro note?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on April 13, 2012, 08:10:58 AM
Quote from: ddolfelin on April 13, 2012, 07:54:43 AM
What do you call a three euro note?

Fake
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 13, 2012, 09:10:31 AM
Quote from: Oldman on April 13, 2012, 08:10:58 AM
Quote from: ddolfelin on April 13, 2012, 07:54:43 AM
What do you call a three euro note?

Fake

:smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on April 13, 2012, 10:46:18 AM
Like everything else in this crazy world the English language is changing, the dictionary is getting bigger with all the new words that mean virtually nothing.

What bugs me here in Australia is because we have dollars instead of pounds so everyone uses the word "buck",  instead of saying "how are you mate" its now "how you goin buddy" and one of the worst we inherited from New Zealand and that is "G'Day Bro" I get that from young people and I am 69 this year so I hardly think he is my "Brother" unless my Mother gave birth to the little twit in her 80s.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 13, 2012, 01:40:51 PM
Another one to get up my nostrils is, when asking "How are you?" to be told "I'm good, thanks". It makes no sense ???
Far too much language is coming over from the States and as youngsters these days a surfeit of American tosh broadcast on British TV it can only get worse.

On a separate subject, I went through 3 pages of posts Wednesday night until I thought bed was beckoning, but when I closed down Windows decided I had 7 updates, which took 40 minutes to load. Having already installed the latest Adobe update successfully, the very next day I was informed there was another one. Grrrr >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Gordini5 on April 13, 2012, 02:01:30 PM
I still get the "have a nice day" from call centres. What a load of bilge. If I was having a nice day I would not need to stay on hold for twenty minutes waiting to speak to a human.



Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Irish Padre on April 13, 2012, 02:28:04 PM
re the Ryanair stuff, I totally agree with the door thing. I want to agree about the 'euros' but having lived in the Eurozone at the time of the currency change, we were subjected to the barrage of information on the introduction of the euro. As a result I can unfortunately confirm that the official plural of euro is euro, however counter-intuitive it might seem!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tgv_obsessed on April 13, 2012, 02:53:42 PM
Quote from: Irish Padre on April 13, 2012, 02:28:04 PM
re the Ryanair stuff, I totally agree with the door thing. I want to agree about the 'euros' but having lived in the Eurozone at the time of the currency change, we were subjected to the barrage of information on the introduction of the euro. As a result I can unfortunately confirm that the official plural of euro is euro, however counter-intuitive it might seem!!

Whether the Irish want to say Euro or Euros or whatever is niether here nor there. The aircraft originated in the UK, outside the Eurozone and the announcer was speaking in English. If it was a French aircraft the announcer would still have been speaking in English(as well as French and the language of destination if appropriate), as he/she would have if it were a Japanese or Nepalese airline that hubbed in stanstead.

Announcements are always translated into the languages of origin and destination. If we say that Ryanair is an Irish airline and they wish to make announcements in the Irish version of English with its official idiotic plural of Euro, then that should be an additional announcement.

You can't believe my fury about this, and it is the reason I stopped flying Ryanair.

Having said that I fully accept that the Irish speak a different version of English, but, the Ryanair aircraft are hubbing in a UK airport. If the flight was to Dublin, then maybe my blood would merely be simmering slowly (though I doubt it somehow)

Naturally this is all a bit TONGUE IN CHEEK!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MinZaPint on April 13, 2012, 04:57:03 PM
Quote from: tgv_obsessed on April 13, 2012, 02:53:42 PM

Naturally this is all a bit TONGUE IN CHEEK!!

Now I see where You get the "Obsessed" from TGV  :smiley-laughing:  :wave:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on April 13, 2012, 05:09:43 PM
Makes me angry when I'm looking in Ebay or any other online site and the picture has a caption saying "click to enlarge" and all that happens is the same size picture appears in a new window.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tgv_obsessed on April 13, 2012, 05:21:38 PM
Quote from: MinZaPint on April 13, 2012, 04:57:03 PM
Quote from: tgv_obsessed on April 13, 2012, 02:53:42 PM

Naturally this is all a bit TONGUE IN CHEEK!!

Now I see where You get the "Obsessed" from TGV  :smiley-laughing:  :wave:

I know I know, but imagine- flying doesnt put anyone in a good mood and then having to listen to them announcing a list of prices, so that the word euro is repeated again and again and again and again

pure torture
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on April 13, 2012, 05:25:09 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on April 13, 2012, 05:09:43 PM
Makes me angry when I'm looking in Ebay or any other online site and the picture has a caption saying "click to enlarge" and all that happens is the same size picture appears in a new window.

Allan

That also niggles me, I usually end up saying "words" to the screen  >:(  :computerangry:  :evil:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on April 13, 2012, 05:48:41 PM
You mean like "5 pound" 8)

Allow me to make you more annoyed. The official plural is "euro". I refer you to

EU Publication 6336 'Spelling of the words "euro" and "cent"'

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tgv_obsessed on April 13, 2012, 05:55:44 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on April 13, 2012, 05:48:41 PM
You mean like "5 pound" 8)

Allow me to make you more annoyed. The official plural is "euro". I refer you to

EU Publication 6336 'Spelling of the words "euro" and "cent"'

I am now apoplectic with rage and will need a full quota of friday beer to calm down!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: galway on April 13, 2012, 06:02:22 PM
Quote from: tgv_obsessed on April 13, 2012, 05:55:44 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on April 13, 2012, 05:48:41 PM
You mean like "5 pound" 8)

Allow me to make you more annoyed. The official plural is "euro". I refer you to

EU Publication 6336 'Spelling of the words "euro" and "cent"'

I am now apoplectic with rage and will need a full quota of friday beer to calm down!

Hopefully you'll be purchasing said beer with pounds/pound
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on April 13, 2012, 06:03:35 PM
Quote from: tgv_obsessed on April 13, 2012, 05:55:44 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on April 13, 2012, 05:48:41 PM
You mean like "5 pound" 8)

Allow me to make you more annoyed. The official plural is "euro". I refer you to

EU Publication 6336 'Spelling of the words "euro" and "cent"'

I am now apoplectic with rage and will need a full quota of friday beer to calm down!

Should that not be "Friday beers"?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tgv_obsessed on April 13, 2012, 06:15:31 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on April 13, 2012, 06:03:35 PM
Quote from: tgv_obsessed on April 13, 2012, 05:55:44 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on April 13, 2012, 05:48:41 PM
You mean like "5 pound" 8)

Allow me to make you more annoyed. The official plural is "euro". I refer you to

EU Publication 6336 'Spelling of the words "euro" and "cent"'

I am now apoplectic with rage and will need a full quota of friday beer to calm down!

Should that not be "Friday beers"?

not sure- try it with cheese and cheeses - the s suggests many different kinds, whereas with beer I like to stick to the same one all night.

which probably buggers up my whole point about the s on the end of euro!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MinZaPint on April 13, 2012, 08:41:14 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on April 13, 2012, 05:25:09 PM

That also niggles me, I usually end up saying "words" to the screen  >:(  :computerangry:  :evil:

A guy my wife works with, not the most tollerant of men, insisted on having one of these phones you can talk to! He told the phone what he thought of it and back came the reply "No profanities if you please"  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on April 13, 2012, 08:54:49 PM
Thanks to my recent radioactive iodine treatment, my immune system is shot and I have somehow managed to catch flu. Sore throat, cough, aches and pains, etc, good some days and rubbish others. Hope it is just "man flu", but it's something I could do without.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 13, 2012, 08:57:47 PM
Crikey Kipper - you certainly are going through the mill at the moment.
Hope you can shake that bug off quickly :wave:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MinZaPint on April 13, 2012, 09:05:10 PM
Sorry to hear of your problems Kipper but brought to mind a conversation between my wife and mother in law "David's not well", "Oh man flu I suppose", "No he's ill he's not drinking" Still love her!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on April 13, 2012, 10:35:26 PM
Quote from: MinZaPint on April 13, 2012, 08:41:14 PM
A guy my wife works with, not the most tollerant of men, insisted on having one of these phones you can talk to! He told the phone what he thought of it and back came the reply "No profanities if you please"  :smiley-laughing:

You can be very tolerant of almost anything, and Siri (for that is the iPhone lady's name) will drive you to cursing the air blue.  You will end up telling her that she has no real purpose and is a waste of silicon and germanium in no uncertain terms.  That is not Apple's best user interface!

Ask her what she's wearing though, and she will reply variously...

"I'm not that kind of assistant, Mark", or
"Aluminosilicate glass and stainless steel, nice, huh?"
"Why do people keep asking me this".

There are some very funny mix ups too... check out www.whysiriwhy.com (http://www.whysiriwhy.com) to see just how bad this virtual assistant can be.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: moogle on April 17, 2012, 10:03:31 AM
Quote from: Mustermark on April 13, 2012, 10:35:26 PM
Quote from: MinZaPint on April 13, 2012, 08:41:14 PM
A guy my wife works with, not the most tollerant of men, insisted on having one of these phones you can talk to! He told the phone what he thought of it and back came the reply "No profanities if you please"  :smiley-laughing:

You can be very tolerant of almost anything, and Siri (for that is the iPhone lady's name) will drive you to cursing the air blue.  You will end up telling her that she has no real purpose and is a waste of silicon and germanium in no uncertain terms.  That is not Apple's best user interface!

Ask her what she's wearing though, and she will reply variously...

"I'm not that kind of assistant, Mark", or
"Aluminosilicate glass and stainless steel, nice, huh?"
"Why do people keep asking me this".

There are some very funny mix ups too... check out www.whysiriwhy.com (http://www.whysiriwhy.com) to see just how bad this virtual assistant can be.

Beware of Siri!

Psycho Siri (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCkhY7gqbag#ws)  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Joe 90 on April 17, 2012, 10:32:17 AM
What on earth is happening to the quality of driving nowadays?

Does no-one know how to use their indicators on their cars anymore or do they not realise they have them fitted?!
The amount of times drivers suddenly slow up for apparently no reason then veer off into another street or road with no indication or anything. As for roundabouts.....who knows which exit they're going to use?

When I start my revolution they'll be first up against the wall. No cigarette or anything.. ;)

Gosh......that was therapeutic.........
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: moogle on April 17, 2012, 10:57:42 AM
Joe90, these days it seems to be a case of:

1) Learn your highway code and use your mirrors and signals.
2) Pass your test.
3) Don't bother with 1) anymore!

I only passed my test a year ago and I'm horrified by other peoples driving!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on April 17, 2012, 11:34:51 AM
Quote from: moogle on April 17, 2012, 10:57:42 AM
Joe90, these days it seems to be a case of:

1) Learn your highway code and use your mirrors and signals.
2) Pass your test.
3) Don't bother with 1) anymore!

I only passed my test a year ago and I'm horrified by other peoples driving!


You are assuming that all the other road users actually have valid driving licences.  If you watch the real crime police videos, it seems that loads of drivers don't bother.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on April 17, 2012, 12:28:52 PM
Sorry to hear you are not well Kipper and hope you get well ASAP.

Seem to be hearing a lot about Man Flu these days. seems we even have it on the bottom of the planet in Oz, can anyone please explain the difference between Man Flu and Woman Flu  ???

Please don't tell me Man Flu causes blokes to get a hairy backside cause I won't believe you.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: hairygit on April 17, 2012, 12:34:33 PM
Moogle/Joe 90, try driving a coach for a living, it scares me to see just how crazy some drivers are out there, they don't care how big the vehicle is they cut up, or how dangerous a manouvre they are making, as long as they are in front! :o :thumbsdown: The road safety lobby are always on about how many deaths/ serious injuries occur every year, I have to ask, how is it so FEW with what I see most days! ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Joe 90 on April 17, 2012, 12:58:10 PM
The world has gone crazy.
When/If I get my revolution rolling it looks like I'll have to use 2 walls. :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davieb on April 22, 2012, 07:44:49 PM
well i can't hold it back any longer i just have to get it off my chest

last sunday evening i got a shout from the living room that i was needed
i went in to find my dad in absolute agony with his stomach (that he has a known problem with) so i called the specialist's out of hours helpline
to be told to get him to the hospital immediately to get him checked over

so not being able to get him off the floor there was only one thing to do phone 999 and get an ambulance  :thumbsup:
this was at 7.30 and the ambulance finally arrived at 9.20 and this was after 3 calls to tell them it was getting worse   >:(

when we finally got to the hospital they did some tests and it turned out he had a water infection that was causing the pain
they gave him some anti-biotics and painkillers and sent him home  :thumbsdown:

sorry for the long post but i had to get it out as i am still fuming and considering taking it further

at least the tablets appear to be working as he is feeling better now

dave  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on April 22, 2012, 08:56:40 PM
Hi Dave,

The problem with antibiotics for urine infections is that you end up with antibiotic resistant bacteria,usually of the ecoli variety,you might find some information here useful..
http://www.dmannose.co.uk/ (http://www.dmannose.co.uk/)

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davieb on April 22, 2012, 09:04:55 PM
thanks for that allan :thumbsup:

will run that by the specialist when we go next week

my father has a G.I.S.T or gastro-intestinal stomal tumour and one of the main side effects of the treatment is water infections
he is on a trial of a new treatment that has been getting 80-85% cure rate but anything he takes has to be approved
by his specialist

once again thanks for the info

dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on April 23, 2012, 08:43:45 AM
Hope the old boy continues to improve Dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on April 23, 2012, 08:53:31 AM
Quote from: Bikeracer on April 22, 2012, 08:56:40 PM
Hi Dave,

The problem with antibiotics for urine infections is that you end up with antibiotic resistant bacteria,usually of the ecoli variety,you might find some information here useful..
http://www.dmannose.co.uk/ (http://www.dmannose.co.uk/)

Allan

The dmannose stuff is good. Some of my female friends have used it.

Hope you father gets better soon Dave. There are some wonderful new drugs out now.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 24, 2012, 08:07:00 AM
It seems our local council has had enough of drivers smoothly negotiating roundabouts with traffic lights.
They have re-sequenced the lights so you just lurch round the roundabout from one set of lights to the next making zero progress. Grrrr >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: K-N-Gauge on April 24, 2012, 09:05:05 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 24, 2012, 08:07:00 AM
It seems our local council has had enough of drivers smoothly negotiating roundabouts with traffic lights.
They have re-sequenced the lights so you just lurch round the roundabout from one set of lights to the next making zero progress. Grrrr >:(
Councils seem to like this!
When in rush hour is stupid to many cars go on to the roundabout then block the lights behind them, which in turn people behind them can t move and so on the round about doesn't move at all and people just beeb! Lol
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: 4x2 on April 24, 2012, 06:53:58 PM
You should try Bath.... From Bath abbey to the bus station there are exactly TEN sets of lights and all in less than 1/4 of a mile... :o :o :o  Our bus shedules give us 8 mins to do this and we rarely run to time on that section ! ::)

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: K-N-Gauge on April 24, 2012, 06:56:53 PM
Quote from: 4x2 on April 24, 2012, 06:53:58 PM
You should try Bath.... From Bath abbey to the bus station there are exactly TEN sets of lights and all in less than 1/4 of a mile... :o :o :o  Our bus shedules give us 8 mins to do this and we rarely run to time on that section ! ::)
Blood hell! I'm ok for trying :D lol
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Andrew.PEI on April 24, 2012, 07:38:12 PM

This is the place to let of steam about anything that angers you!

I hate stupid tv programs that my trainee wife watches; cougar town, the hills, glee ,sex and the city,90210,  >:( >:( >:(






the small print!
Just make sure its not in anyway offensive or directed at anybody on the forum..



[/quote]


Just like my missus I hate the programmes she watches
[/quote]

Then try this for Size- I install satellite TV - Even did my own-  So here we are with a fancy box and a brand new Flat screen tv- 800 channel universe- and all "We" get is "Black & White" - the wife seems hooked on TCM Turner Classic Movies(539 on Shaw).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on April 24, 2012, 07:55:56 PM
Quote from: Andrew.PEI on April 24, 2012, 07:38:12 PM

Then try this for Size- I install satellite TV - Even did my own-  So here we are with a fancy box and a brand new Flat screen tv- 800 channel universe- and all "We" get is "Black & White" - the wife seems hooked on TCM Turner Classic Movies(539 on Shaw).

:smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:  You couldn't make it up!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Andrew.PEI on April 24, 2012, 08:02:37 PM
Still Happily Married- She Puts Up with my "OOOPS !" when I win {accidently} on Ebay :smiley-laughing:
So I guess all is fair in Love and War :-*
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on April 24, 2012, 08:57:43 PM
Near where I live is a level crossing, placed next to a mini-roundabout. Some clown, from the bit of the railways that deals with it, has decided that the barriers will come down 5 minutes before the train arrives at the crossing. This creates long queues, naturally. When the barriers do go up, everyone who crosses the crossing gets stopped at the roundabout, due to the large queue built up on the other side, and the traffic backs up to the crossing. Then the bells start to ring again.....
If they reduced the waiting time, the queues would be shorter, and the problem would not occur. The next crossing down the line is timed to about 1 minute. Flipping Robin Hood Line.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Andrew.PEI on April 24, 2012, 09:08:31 PM
Been near there   -Missed the fun- Its on my to do list next time in the area..... :evil: I love to chase "Trains" an old trick my dad taught me back in the day- (Last few days of steam). Chasing from place to place to Watch the Big 'uns go by and then racing madly to the next spot down the line :camera:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on April 25, 2012, 10:47:05 AM
Quote from: Andrew.PEI on April 24, 2012, 09:08:31 PM
Been near there   -Missed the fun- Its on my to do list next time in the area..... :evil: I love to chase "Trains" an old trick my dad taught me back in the day- (Last few days of steam). Chasing from place to place to Watch the Big 'uns go by and then racing madly to the next spot down the line :camera:

A friend of mine (sadly departed) was photographing the Flying Scotsman on a run. He did just that, raced to a spot where thought he could see it coming out of a tunnel. Left the car, jumped over a 4 foot hedge, straight into a 3 foot deep ditch. Broke an ankle and missed the picture. He managed to crawl out of the ditch and back into his car and drove to a hospital in absolute agony.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Fratton on April 25, 2012, 12:37:56 PM
Quote from: Kipper on April 24, 2012, 08:57:43 PM
Near where I live is a level crossing, placed next to a mini-roundabout. Some clown, from the bit of the railways that deals with it, has decided that the barriers will come down 5 minutes before the train arrives at the crossing. This creates long queues, naturally. When the barriers do go up, everyone who crosses the crossing gets stopped at the roundabout, due to the large queue built up on the other side, and the traffic backs up to the crossing. Then the bells start to ring again.....
If they reduced the waiting time, the queues would be shorter, and the problem would not occur. The next crossing down the line is timed to about 1 minute. Flipping Robin Hood Line.

you have my sympathy, i live in west sussex we have barriers everywhere round here including the one with a twitter account down the road that taunts motorists, i always findthe one at ford station a nightmare i think its guagemaster have set it up to get me to go in even if i was trying to pass them by!!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on April 25, 2012, 02:49:41 PM
Quote from: Kipper on April 24, 2012, 08:57:43 PM
Near where I live is a level crossing, placed next to a mini-roundabout. Some clown, from the bit of the railways that deals with it, has decided that the barriers will come down 5 minutes before the train arrives at the crossing.

More joined up government at work. The railway is responsible for the railway part to the gates. The council and DfT are responsible for the road bit the other side. So there is no mechanism to avoid such idiocies. It's taken years to create a process for trying to stop people jumping crossings by adding additional barriers in the road centre at problem locatios. This is because it requires Network Rail, DfT and local government to talk to one another, and worse yet ... to agree whose budget.

In the mean time they just carry on scraping up the bits and complaining about safety.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on April 26, 2012, 07:56:52 AM
Been soaked to the skin four days running (even came through waterproofs), my waterbutts are overflowing, garden is a bog, pavements are flooded and I have nowhere to put the water I have been recycling.

And it is bucketing down now!

And my area is classified as being in drought until Christmas!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on April 26, 2012, 08:54:24 AM
Quote from: Pendy on April 26, 2012, 07:56:52 AM
my waterbutts are overflowing,
No no no no no, I am resisting, as it would be too easy to make comment about your waterbutts  :evil:  :smiley-laughing:

And it is bucketing down now!
Well here in the NE we are getting it all day, it started yesterday afternoon, I was only out for 15 mins and was soaked through just going to the shop for some basics  :(

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on April 26, 2012, 09:27:12 AM
Quote from: scotsoft on April 26, 2012, 08:54:24 AM
I was only out for 15 mins and was soaked through just going to the shop for some basics[/color]  :(


I know exactly what you mean! When it is not continually raining here it is a mixture of sunshine and showers that become heavy very quickly and guess who manages to get caught in the showers rather than the sunshine . . .

We do need the rain though. I think what irritated me is some of the local media smugly harping on about being in drought, saving water and hosepipe bans - particularly after coming home drenched for the third or fourth time.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on April 26, 2012, 09:39:03 AM
The road floods outside of my house, and the council have to use the gulley suckers every two weeks to clear the drains (too many leaves round here)!  Occasionally the water floods the road, goes into the sub station next door, and into my back garden. ::)  I'm halfway through building a large concrete trench with a sump pump in it, which will squirt out over our back wall.

This is from last year, but Croydon Council don't think there is a problem with their drains as "They seem to clear after an hour of rain".  Huh?! ???

(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h287/tank_fv101/13769_194287943473_788053473_3959865_3233346_n.jpg)

(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h287/tank_fv101/13769_194287948473_788053473_3959866_294813_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on April 26, 2012, 10:15:51 AM
Tank, I have just realised how lucky I am, not having to put up with that sort of regular flooding and attitude from the Council. So I'm not so angry now.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MinZaPint on April 26, 2012, 10:40:49 AM
Quote from: Tank on April 26, 2012, 09:39:03 AM

This is from last year, but Croydon Council don't think there is a problem with their drains as "They seem to clear after an hour of rain".  Huh?! ???

(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h287/tank_fv101/13769_194287943473_788053473_3959865_3233346_n.jpg)


Here you go Tank problem solved

(http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb474/minzapint/General/type-63-light-amphibious-tank-army-guide-21.jpg)

Mind you it's Chinese but Dapol can probably get you one  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :wave:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on April 26, 2012, 10:50:11 AM
 :smiley-laughing:  A ZBD-97...I'm surprised it's still going as it's Chinese!!!

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on April 26, 2012, 10:59:22 AM
Quote from: Tank on April 26, 2012, 10:50:11 AM
:smiley-laughing:  A ZBD

...and he said "Time for bed"

I wonder who will remember this classic?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on April 26, 2012, 11:12:59 AM
Quote from: scotsoft on April 26, 2012, 10:59:22 AM
Quote from: Tank on April 26, 2012, 10:50:11 AM
:smiley-laughing:  A ZBD

...and he said "Time for bed"

I wonder who will remember this classic?

Or the other classic it gave rise too

jasper carrot magic roundabout (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_JQDfuMZi0#)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Joe 90 on April 26, 2012, 05:43:24 PM
Wasn't that on the 'B' side of Funky Moped?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EddieA on April 26, 2012, 06:02:06 PM
It indeed was, and I think I still have the original single somewhere in my collection.

OK that's any street cred I had on here firmly out of the window :smiley-laughing: 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on April 27, 2012, 01:11:18 PM
One thing after another no wonder a bloke is turning into a raving nut.

Now my Daughter has Addisons Disease and has to stay on Steroids for the rest of her life, she also has to wear a tag on a chain around her neck and carry a syringe with steroids in it just in case she has an attack which could prove fatal unless she gets to hospital to get a certain hormone balanced, only 1 to 6 in 100,000 people get this disease and it had to happen to this beautiful young woman.

I dunno sometimes I think these things are sent to test us.

Why am I mad, it takes years for Addisons Disease to really take hold as the Adrenal Glands do not produce certain hormones including Adrenalin, she has been to many different doctors over the past few years and it has cost her thousands of dollars in tests to find out what has been wrong with her and no bugger knew, finally she went to a young Indian doctor who knew straight away what was wrong, to many quacks making money out of people these days.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 27, 2012, 06:17:39 PM
Jeez Dave - I am really sorry to hear this news about your daughter and the events leading up to the diagnosis. It seems everyone I talk to has a grievance with medical services (regardless of country).
Please pass on my very best wishes to her :wave:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on April 27, 2012, 07:06:52 PM
and I thought your year couldn't get any worse Dave, it probably wont help much but give her lots of hugs from Scotland for me
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on April 27, 2012, 08:54:52 PM
So sorry to hear that Dave. I'm not sure i've got too much wisdom to comfort you.

My ex-wife has it, and, as if it was even vaguely relevant or reassuring, as far as I am aware hasn't caused her any problems. I also believe JFK had it, and I'm pretty sure wasn't what finished him off!

I think it is manageable in the way you described and the main thing is to be sure to carry the rescue meds in case of what i think they call a 'crisis'.

Very upsetting news for you all.  I hope she gets the right care from now on.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on April 27, 2012, 09:31:52 PM
Thanks lads and thank you Mark its reassuring to hear from someone that knows someone with the same thing.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on May 01, 2012, 12:35:37 AM
One feed wire left to solder and then all the droppers/feeds are done for Snow Hill.

One .. because with just one wire left to solder my soldering iron has committed suicide. Grrr, although it's given me around 20 years loyal service so perhaps thats not too bad.


Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: hairygit on May 04, 2012, 09:18:22 AM
Not Happy! Having to start dismantling my layout due to our landlord being a sneaky bit of work. In the recent heavy rain we have had water pouring into our kitchen through the cob wall, and it has spread and soaked the living room carpet as well. It stinks of damp and mould, our landlord lives in Spain and basically said "if you don't like it, leave!". >:( Environmental health has declared it unfit for human habitation, so we have to move out, only place we could find locally has 2 less rooms, so no space for my layout :'(, so just as I'd finished laying all my track, I have to dismantle it all, with no prospect of being able to use it in the near future :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on May 04, 2012, 09:27:05 AM
People like your landlord should have their property taken from them.  What a terrible situation to be in, I hope you keep looking for a bigger place to live.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on May 04, 2012, 09:32:27 AM
Quote from: scotsoft on May 04, 2012, 09:27:05 AM
People like your landlord should have their property taken from them.  What a terrible situation to be in, I hope you keep looking for a bigger place to live.

Agree fully, good luck.
As space is short how about a diorama to keep your skills in.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: moogle on May 04, 2012, 09:35:03 AM
Sorry to hear that. Just as you're getting somewhere on your layout too. Bummer!

As a tenant myself I've had no problems but a friend of mine has had many with hers.
Getting repairs done takes months if she's lucky and guess what, he lives in Spain too!

Want's the money coming in but not going out is the impression I get.
Sounds like yours is a far worse version.  :thumbsdown:

I believe, could be wrong, that the only way those type of landlords can get their comeuppance is if its a listed building.
I think the local council can get a court order to force the landlord to make the repairs then.
I could be wrong as I say...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 04, 2012, 10:18:49 AM
So sorry to hear your news, and can only hope things improve for you sooner rather than later.
I also admire your restraint in only referring to the landlord as "a sneaky bit of work"
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: hairygit on May 04, 2012, 10:20:19 AM
I only kept my post civilised because we have some very young members!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on May 04, 2012, 12:01:53 PM
That's terrible.  So sorry to hear that.  I hope they cant rent it and go bankrupt!  Sorry about the layout going into storage.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: hairygit on May 04, 2012, 12:10:21 PM
Sadly my layout is not going into storage, it's having to be dismantled, as it's 10 feet by 4 feet, so it has to come apart to get it out :thumbsdown: And as I said earlier, no room at the new place to set it up :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on May 04, 2012, 12:27:25 PM
Quote from: moogle on May 04, 2012, 09:35:03 AM
I believe, could be wrong, that the only way those type of landlords can get their comeuppance is if its a listed building.

A small claims suit for the carpet and other damage perhaps. At the very least they'd have to either put up, or fly over from spain 8)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on May 04, 2012, 12:31:12 PM
I really feel for you mate but sadly when renting its hard to find a good landlord these days, seems all they want to do is grab your money and they couldn't give a stuff about the tenants.

Here's hoping the new place will be more comfortable and in time you will be able to get a bigger home with a caring landlord.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: 1936ace on May 04, 2012, 12:41:31 PM
Hi Dave, my families thoughts are with you. Had a similar story with my son. when he was little he was very sick, went here and there and saw heaps of experts. his headmistress at school would not let hm return to school unless we provided medical certificate to say it was ok so as to not disturb the teacher. poor kid not his fault he would just start throwing up violently. Managed to get to see a professor at "the john" who ended up doing some invassive medical tests to work out all he had was lactose intolerence. amazing how no one could work this out. And all this after he had to wait until he was one to have surgery to remove a cancer risk.
bart
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: R M Williams on May 04, 2012, 06:32:53 PM
Hi

Real sympathy for you and I hope you can get back to the layout asap.

Had problems myself with a private landlord who used to own the place next door and rent it out - all the tenants were great till a bunch of layabouts moved in and started partying 24/7 and, the police suspected, running the place as a drug supply base and a brothel.

The landlord was not even slightly interested in the problems being caused by his tenants.

He GOT interested when they stopped paying the rent, and actually came whining to me when he found out that he'd actually have to pay court-costs and bailiff fees to get them out.  My sympathy was not forthcoming.

After I'd attended court a few times the tenants got an ASBO against them, so I hope they are not disrupting the lives of neighbours wherever they have moved to.

All sorted now, the landlord gave up on buying to rent and sold the place to a very nice family. so life quickly got back to normal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tgv_obsessed on May 07, 2012, 03:06:05 PM
Quote from: hairygit on May 04, 2012, 09:18:22 AM
Not Happy! Having to start dismantling my layout due to our landlord being a sneaky bit of work. In the recent heavy rain we have had water pouring into our kitchen through the cob wall, and it has spread and soaked the living room carpet as well. It stinks of damp and mould, our landlord lives in Spain and basically said "if you don't like it, leave!". >:( Environmental health has declared it unfit for human habitation, so we have to move out, only place we could find locally has 2 less rooms, so no space for my layout :'(, so just as I'd finished laying all my track, I have to dismantle it all, with no prospect of being able to use it in the near future :'(

I work in this area (lettings not devon) , and my understanding at the very least is that your Landlord must have a UK address. Also, properties that are let must be fit for letting and conform to a number of standards. Also the landlords paperwork must be in very good order regarding your deposit protection (if applicable).

I do understand that just going for your landlord is a headache, in that to some extent you rely on him/her for a reference for the next property- if that is not the case then you are in quite a good position- E P's idea of the small claims court is correct- but it isnt merely for the damage, it is also for the rent that the landlord cannot raise if the place is not fit and his paperwork isnt up to scratch (depending on the type of building).

And coming to the type of building, many fall under the beedy eyes of your councils environmental department and fall under the Mandatory or discretional liscensing- It is NOT the case that only listed buildings require the landlord to do proper repair.

If your property is unfit, and you are in contract (or out of it even- tenancies carry on even after the date ends) - I mean if a tenancy at some point was set up (i e the landlord or agent gave you the keys and he/she does not live there too) and those keys have not been returned (the tenancy has not ended- that is the only way for a tenancy to end other than the courts ending it), then it is the landlord who is responsible to house you if the property is unfit for habitation, if the reasons for that can be demonstrated as not your own.

feel free to PM me if you like, but am happy to offer advice in public too.

Just to simplify things-

If you moved in after 1997 then it is very likely that you have an Assured Shorthold Tenancy. In most situations that gives the landlord the right to ask you to leave (without stating any reason) and the courts will uphold that provided proper notice is given. However that doesn't mean that the landlord does not have responsibilities.

It doesn't matter if there is a piece of paper, just handing you the keys after a verbal agreement of rent is good enough (just- better to have the bit of paper)

An assured shorthold tenancy has to last at minimum 6 months. If your agreement has ended, the main provisions of it still apply- the tenancy reverts to what is called a statutory periodic tenancy- so even if yu are out of the original timeframe, both sides have legal recourse to statutory and / or the original terms of the agreement

If you moved in after 6th April 2007 and you paid a deposit, then that deposit must have been protected by the landlord - either insured or given to a government scheme for safekeeping - and it is the landlords responsibility to have informed you. Failure to have done so puts you in a rather good position - the landlord has lost the right to remove you for no reason- he/she must now state reasons and it is for the courts to decide.

Regarding repairs much depends on what is reasonable or not and by reasonable I mean what the courts think is reasonable. But the landlord is responsible for keeping the property in a habitable condition.

During any repairs that prevent you from living in the property, it is the landlords responsibility to adequately house you if the tenancy has not ended- and remember the tenancy ends with either you handing over the keys or the bailiffs removing you.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on May 07, 2012, 03:47:23 PM
I was going to moan that my Satellite internet (Italy) was taken out by a thunderstorm yesterday so missed out on what I thought was an e-bay bargain. Now having read the previous thread I realise what a wonderful group exists on this forum. Offering help in all sorts of diverse situations. Hats off to tgv_obsessed.... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tcinbg on May 08, 2012, 04:48:22 PM
hairygit -

I guess your landlord is paying tax on in rental income, isn't he?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MinZaPint on May 08, 2012, 05:43:10 PM
Well I've got nothing to really get angry about compared to you guys but I'm saving this smiley for when I find something non political (they're all as bad as each other!) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-angry021.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: K-N-Gauge on May 08, 2012, 11:18:59 PM
I to have had enough of those models!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on May 08, 2012, 11:52:19 PM
Annoying as they are some can be of use to the modeller. I have recently acquired a delprado SNCF elec loco model converted onto a motorized chassis which now means I have a RtR N gauge model that not many people have for under £20!

If they are annoying you then click advance search options and omit delprado from the search then you won't have to wade through tons of static models so you can get down to what you really want. Hope that helps :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on May 09, 2012, 02:32:31 AM
Very annoyed at the idiots that leave the pub up the road at 2am in the morning and chuck their mates on top of the hedge at the front of our place, what used to be a nice level hedge now looks like a serrated saw blade, not game enough to go out and tell them to knock it off because I would most likely get bashed up or something.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on May 09, 2012, 08:23:50 AM
Quote from: oldrailbug on May 09, 2012, 02:32:31 AM
Very annoyed at the idiots that leave the pub up the road at 2am in the morning and chuck their mates on top of the hedge at the front of our place, what used to be a nice level hedge now looks like a serrated saw blade, not game enough to go out and tell them to knock it off because I would most likely get bashed up or something.

I hate vandals and yobs who wreck other people's property. Best thing to do Dave is weave some barbed wire amongst the hedge so it's hidden and camouflaged. Next time some clown decides to go 'bush surfing' all you have to do is phone the cops as the moron who tried to wreck your bush is wrapped up in the barbed wire that you hid. You won't even have to wait up for them, the screams should alert you that some giant twerp has decided to mess with your foliage.

Just tell the police to bring some wire cutters so they can cut him loose before arresting him for breaching the peace and vandalism.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on May 09, 2012, 09:32:22 AM
Thanks for the replies lads  :thumbsup: love the barbed wire idea so I may shove a few strands across the top of the hedge  :thumbsup: that is while Daves suggestion of planting pyracantha into the hedge, Dave I was pleased to find out that pyracantha grows over here in Oz so thanks for that  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on May 09, 2012, 09:49:13 AM
No worries Dave,
Regards
Dave (OwL)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on May 09, 2012, 10:06:47 AM
Quote from: oldrailbug on May 09, 2012, 02:32:31 AM
Very annoyed at the idiots that leave the pub up the road at 2am in the morning and chuck their mates on top of the hedge at the front of our place, what used to be a nice level hedge now looks like a serrated saw blade, not game enough to go out and tell them to knock it off because I would most likely get bashed up or something.

An ideal application for an electric fence  :evil:  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on May 09, 2012, 10:10:11 AM
Quote from: scotsoft on May 09, 2012, 10:06:47 AM
Quote from: oldrailbug on May 09, 2012, 02:32:31 AM
Very annoyed at the idiots that leave the pub up the road at 2am in the morning and chuck their mates on top of the hedge at the front of our place, what used to be a nice level hedge now looks like a serrated saw blade, not game enough to go out and tell them to knock it off because I would most likely get bashed up or something.

An ideal application for an electric fence  :evil:  :smiley-laughing:

Beware - the owner can get prosecuted if a trespasser is harmed


http://tammyswallow.hubpages.com/hub/Did-You-Know-If-a-Trespasser-Gets-Hurt-on-Your-Property-You-ARE-Liable (http://tammyswallow.hubpages.com/hub/Did-You-Know-If-a-Trespasser-Gets-Hurt-on-Your-Property-You-ARE-Liable)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on May 09, 2012, 10:33:59 AM
Don't worry Pendy, Dave lives in Oz, I doubt they have silly laws out there, like we have here, the likes of which protect the crooks and vandals that blight everyday life here in Britain. :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on May 09, 2012, 10:56:15 AM
Quote from: Pendy on May 09, 2012, 10:10:11 AM

Beware - the owner can get prosecuted if a trespasser is harmed

http://tammyswallow.hubpages.com/hub/Did-You-Know-If-a-Trespasser-Gets-Hurt-on-Your-Property-You-ARE-Liable (http://tammyswallow.hubpages.com/hub/Did-You-Know-If-a-Trespasser-Gets-Hurt-on-Your-Property-You-ARE-Liable)

In that case a warning sign with "WARNING - Hedge Infested with Funnel Web Spiders" could be the cheapest solution  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: fisherman on May 09, 2012, 11:32:53 AM
some   kids  are  just  SO  weird!!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on May 09, 2012, 12:55:05 PM
Quote from: OwL729 on May 09, 2012, 10:33:59 AM
Don't worry Pendy, Dave lives in Oz, I doubt they have silly laws out there, like we have here, the likes of which protect the crooks and vandals that blight everyday life here in Britain. :(

I wish that were true, here in Oz you can get off with a good behavior bond for robbery, 4 years for murder but for not paying a parking fine and you get locked up for 3 months, work that one out ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on May 09, 2012, 02:23:51 PM
Quote from: oldrailbug on May 09, 2012, 12:55:05 PM
Quote from: OwL729 on May 09, 2012, 10:33:59 AM
Don't worry Pendy, Dave lives in Oz, I doubt they have silly laws out there, like we have here, the likes of which protect the crooks and vandals that blight everyday life here in Britain. :(

I wish that were true, here in Oz you can get off with a good behavior bond for robbery, 4 years for murder but for not paying a parking fine and you get locked up for 3 months, work that one out ??? ??? ???

That means you are better off burgling someone to pay you sodding parking fine!  That's nuts!!! :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tgv_obsessed on May 09, 2012, 02:37:28 PM
Quote from: Mustermark on May 09, 2012, 02:23:51 PM
Quote from: oldrailbug on May 09, 2012, 12:55:05 PM
Quote from: OwL729 on May 09, 2012, 10:33:59 AM
Don't worry Pendy, Dave lives in Oz, I doubt they have silly laws out there, like we have here, the likes of which protect the crooks and vandals that blight everyday life here in Britain. :(

I wish that were true, here in Oz you can get off with a good behavior bond for robbery, 4 years for murder but for not paying a parking fine and you get locked up for 3 months, work that one out ??? ??? ???

That means you are better off burgling someone to pay you sodding parking fine!  That's nuts!!! :o

risking to sound all woolly liberal about this, but its because the judges in most serious criminal cases have some discretion about sentencing and therefore sentence according to the defendant. If you give senior legal people discretion, they will use it.

Parking offences v serious crimes etc are used as examples because one is very easily measurable and has a fixed penalty, the other on the other hand can have variable circumstances

and no i'm not saying its right that you have more chance with the courts if you murder your wife and children than if you park 5 minutes over the allotted time.

a parking offence should never be custodial, the fact that it appears to be in australia is because (as here in the uk) we are moving towards mandatory sentences dictated by government in order to appear "tough on crime"

the side effect this kind of knee jerk policy of being tough on crime is that very minor offences are treated harshly, but serious crime, because it is serious still affords discretion on the part of the courts and "experts", isnt usually subject to the same tinkering from the home affairs departments of governments.




Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Fratton on May 09, 2012, 03:31:35 PM
>:( >:( >:( So not happy >:( >:( >:(

i have always ordered my paper and card off one firm via ebay, alas i cant find anything for sale by that seller (gone out of business perhaps)

so i ordered from a new supplier and not only have i had to wait the best part of a week due to the bank holiday i have recieved them only to find that instead of 120 sheets of printed label 1 label per sheet i have been sent 120 units of 21 labels per sheet that are pretty much useless to me,,,,,

already contacted the seller but i can see this dragging way too near the two week mark for my liking!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on May 09, 2012, 04:24:32 PM
Plenty of those - minor drugs offences score higher than kicking old laidies down stairs, and woe betide anyone copy a music track on the internet.. thats up there with the really serious stuff.

All quite mad and all driven by the special interest groups who own our government. Some of them like the copyright lobby in ways that IMHO make Murdoch look like a distant pen friend

.. Fume...

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tgv_obsessed on May 10, 2012, 10:22:52 PM
"pear cider"

there's a perfectly good word for perry
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on May 11, 2012, 12:04:19 AM
Quote from: Claude Dreyfus on March 29, 2011, 10:04:22 PM
That equates to £12.50 per head. Had I known this, I would have taken £50.00 and gone down to the local supermarket and grabbed enough food to more than cater for the numbers - and appetites - involved. I know it's not my money, and that my company has made a several hundred million dollar profit in the past financial year, but some people really take the wee-wee.

We actually did that for a conference in Swansea. The organizer went down to some of the local Indian restuarants and take aways (having got a list of acceptable ones fro locals) and said "I've got 400 quid, I need this much food for lunch delivered here, are you interested".  Got takers easily and one of the small family ones closed the restuarant for that otherwise quite afternooon, got a great deal from their viewpoint and we got great food.

One thing I learned rapidly for all business stuff is to demand actual pricing in advance. Actually for several of the companies I worked for that was policy because the accountants were tight fisted (and much as they annoyed me the business in question did stay in business in downturns!)

Business air travel is another great rip off. Changing someone 150 quid for an extra seat inch and a less nasty plastic meal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EddieA on May 11, 2012, 05:10:58 PM
Quote from: tcinbg on May 08, 2012, 04:48:22 PM
hairygit -

I guess your landlord is paying tax on in rental income, isn't he?

Had something along these lines a couple of years ago. A local 'cowboy builder' was knocking on doors in my street offering to do 'urgent repairs on roofs etc he had somehow noticed from the road'. He ripped off my next door neighbours for what started off as simple repair of roughcast on a disused chimney to taking the entire chimney down and patching the roof where it had come through. Several thousand evidently changed hands (in cash!)

My garden wall was needing the roughcast replaced and he cold called and quoted me what I knew was a stupid price (cash in hand before he job started) as he couldn't have even bought the materials for that. After a couple of further visits I told him that I had had other quotes (true, more expensive but from kosha companies) and that my brother-in-law, who is handy with building work as a 'hobby',  also thought that his quote seemed too cheap.
'So, is your brother in law a builder then?' was the sarcy response.
'No, he works for Customs and Revenue but knows a bit about building...' (again true)
Exit stage right with white face not to be seen again around here. Not sure if the disappearance was due to any activity by C&R...   

Perhaps a quick phone call to the Inland Revenue might be worth while???
     
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dock Shunter on May 12, 2012, 06:44:51 PM
Don't get mad......get even...... ;D.. :thumbsup:

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/-men-at-work--sign-altered-in-village-of-melksham--wiltshire.html (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/-men-at-work--sign-altered-in-village-of-melksham--wiltshire.html)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Donkey on May 12, 2012, 06:55:39 PM
Good one DS  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 12, 2012, 07:06:33 PM
What a hoot - nice one, DS :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: K-N-Gauge on May 12, 2012, 08:18:57 PM
Nice one lol
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: fisherman on May 13, 2012, 08:41:27 AM
those  little  springs in Grafar couplings  make  me  VERY  angry

another  little sod  has  disappeared  into  the  carpet!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on May 13, 2012, 11:12:37 AM
Quote from: SR-Dave on May 12, 2012, 10:14:01 PM
Here's one for you all the "Go Compare" Advert!  GGGRRrrrrrr need I say any more!

Hate the advert, but the annoying thing is that I find myself humming the tune. :(

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 13, 2012, 12:04:27 PM
Quote from: Malc on May 13, 2012, 11:12:37 AM
Quote from: SR-Dave on May 12, 2012, 10:14:01 PM
Here's one for you all the "Go Compare" Advert!  GGGRRrrrrrr need I say any more!

Hate the advert, but the annoying thing is that I find myself humming the tune. :(

Nurse!!! There's no help for this man :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on May 13, 2012, 03:21:38 PM
Quote from: fisherman on May 13, 2012, 08:41:27 AM
those  little  springs in Grafar couplings  make  me  VERY  angry

another  little sod  has  disappeared  into  the  carpet!

Whenever you take apart a Farish coupling with those springs in it do so in a clear plastic bag. Then put a tiny spot of superglue on the coupling end and glue the coupling to the spring end taking care to keep it fairly straight.

In future you will be looking for a single larger escapee and it saves much grief.

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: fisherman on May 13, 2012, 04:39:50 PM
er... knew  that ..coff..

I had  NO  intention of  fiddling  with  the  couplings...

I was  trimming off  the  buffers  on  my  new  Grafar  mk  3  coaches for  my   new  HST  set...

as one  does....

and  the  bogie swivelled round  and  there  was  this  ever so tiny 'ping' sound...

and  I  said...

'my hearing  must  be  getting  better'....

( or words  to  that  effect...)

but  ty  for  the  advice.. it was appreciated
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on May 13, 2012, 07:36:36 PM
Quote from: fisherman on May 13, 2012, 04:39:50 PM
er... knew  that ..coff..

I had  NO  intention of  fiddling  with  the  couplings...

I was  trimming off  the  buffers  on  my  new  Grafar  mk  3  coaches for  my   new  HST  set...

as one  does....

and  the  bogie swivelled round  and  there  was  this  ever so tiny 'ping' sound...

and  I  said...

'my hearing  must  be  getting  better'....

( or words  to  that  effect...)

but  ty  for  the  advice.. it was appreciated

Now that did make me chuckle  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: B757-236GT on May 13, 2012, 10:53:10 PM
The go compare ad is obviously working as you are talking about it now. The best example of any advertising is useful has Michael "insert derogatory term here "O Leary of a certain low cost airline.  The man claimed to have cancer to try to boost things. Eventually he just said his words had been twisted etc etc. He was so far past the line, he couldnt even see it!

Richard
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: moogle on May 26, 2012, 04:17:07 PM
I can't believe no ones been angry for 13 days!  :o
Must be where the suns come out!  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on May 26, 2012, 04:24:53 PM
Ok well I'm angry because I managed to fall down the stairs and crack 4 or 5 ribs meaning I can't go out and play golf in this weather because it hurts too much. 3 weeks of pain so far  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on May 26, 2012, 04:26:56 PM
Went to Maplins for a scart to plug adapter, so I can record my VHS onto DVD via computer. I found that the converter I had already bought only has wire with sockets, whilst my VHS only has scart. The Saturday boy took me to the stand with loads of different gubbins on it, pointed to a scart to sockets and said that was what I wanted. I pointed out that I needed scart to plugs, but to no avail. I then noticed, lower on the stand, just what I needed!
Going to record Easy Rider tonight - just to chill me out.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: moogle on May 26, 2012, 04:46:05 PM
Sorry to hear about your fall Trainfish. Can't make modelling any easier either I'd imagine.

Kipper, you were unfortunate to get the dreaded Saturday boy!
I know what you've been through as I remember buying a camera years ago from Dixons.
Saw what one I liked and stood reading the card that was in front of it with the cameras details on it.
The Saturday boy asked if I needed help so I pointed to the camera and asked if he could tell me more about it.
He did no more than pick up the card and read it out! I went back in the week, found out what I wanted and bought the camera.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on May 26, 2012, 05:59:11 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on May 26, 2012, 04:24:53 PM
Ok well I'm angry because I managed to fall down the stairs and crack 4 or 5 ribs meaning I can't go out and play golf in this weather because it hurts too much. 3 weeks of pain so far  >:(

Ouch!

I knew there would be a cure for golf, but had no idea it was that extreme! ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on May 27, 2012, 12:08:19 AM
It actually gets worse for me. I've got my stag weekend next week when I'm supposed to be playing golf on the Friday and karting and laser questing on Saturday. I may end up being a spectator to all events. I'm just hoping I'll be able to drink but that would mean I have to stop the painkillers. It won't be easy  :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on May 27, 2012, 09:40:30 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on May 26, 2012, 04:24:53 PM
Ok well I'm angry because I managed to fall down the stairs and crack 4 or 5 ribs meaning I can't go out and play golf in this weather because it hurts too much. 3 weeks of pain so far  >:(
Ouch  :'( broken a few over the years myself so can understand the pain you must be suffering but the pain should start to ease  now that 3 weeks has passed.......not stop..... but just ease slowely
Good luck to you for a speedy recovery anyway
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on May 30, 2012, 03:56:14 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on May 27, 2012, 12:08:19 AM
It actually gets worse for me. I've got my stag weekend next week when I'm supposed to be playing golf on the Friday and karting and laser questing on Saturday. I may end up being a spectator to all events. I'm just hoping I'll be able to drink but that would mean I have to stop the painkillers. It won't be easy  :(

I should think you would want to be fit for post wedding days not just the stag do  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on May 30, 2012, 05:39:53 PM
It's complicated but I actually got married last year so I've already done all the post wedding stuff. We do things a little differently down this way  ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: galway on May 30, 2012, 07:54:11 PM
Dear auntie NGF,

Don't often get angry – well not since my younger days, however, was getting a bit racked off at work, that I was doing a disproportionate amount of work and hours to some of my colleagues.

Went to see the Regional Manager with my concerns about my workload (without comparing myself to anyone else initially), listened to the normal b*ll about everyone is in the same boat, having to work harder in these difficult times etc etc. Pointed out to him that my sales were at least 50% more than any other driver (I do van sales) and in a couple of cases more than double than some.

Then I made the mistake of mentioning I never have a break (drive truck on tachograph), well this is all the conversation revolved around from then on, I was breaking law etc, everyone has to take breaks you get the drift, referred him back to earlier comments "having to work harder in these difficult times etc etc " – made absolutely no difference, he now had a reason to push everything back on me (some of these jumped up little $#%*$  love this).

Anyway the reason I am angry – I gave the b*ll*ks the ammo to have a go at me, so am angry with myself, this will shortly pass.

I also came out of the meeting knowing that I am working over the companies max  (48 hrs per week) – currently doing  over  50 without breaks (we get paid for 39), I will now start taking my breaks and working at a pace of my other co-workers, this should then take me to over 60 hours per week and force (because of company rules) the obnoxious little *@* to take some of my calls off me, if I've learnt one thing from today its 'don't give them the opportunity to put it back on you'  and start playing them by their rules – use their rules against them, that's two things (or three) but who's counting!

Thanks for reading feel much better already.  :)

Yours sincerely
Gaillimh
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on May 30, 2012, 08:49:33 PM
Mate, when I'm working (off sick with my ribs at the moment obviously) I do similar to you and work far more hours than anyone else yet get the job done and done well. I've also had all the "everyone's in the same boat" bit which is the same in most companies. I spoke to someone in HR about it and she advised me to just do the hours I'm contracted to do. She said even though I get the job done, nobody notices that. The only time they will notice is when you fail because there's not enough hours in the day. I'm not the sort of person to do that normally but when I return to work I certainly will be doing that. Then they have to sit up and take notice. I also keep an accurate record of all the hours I work.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on May 30, 2012, 08:52:01 PM
Problem is some companies think they can get away with stuff like this because everyone is scared of losing their jobs and as soon as you stand up to them, that is the sort of crap you get back.  Apart from looking elsewhere I don't know what else you can do, I'm not that up on employment law.
Trainfish has a valid point though and it sounds like all your co-workers are doing just that!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 31, 2012, 08:09:24 AM
Always pays to remember that sewage doesn't naturally flow uphill
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on May 31, 2012, 08:47:01 AM
I though it was only Aussie employers that took their staff for granted, I could hardly wait to retire in 2004 when my Mum passed away and left me a small inheritance,  my employer had the staff working extra hours for zero extra pay and yes we were all scared of loosing our jobs.

What used to bug me was that my Rostered Day off was a Monday but if an annual holiday fell on a Monday that was to bad the Holiday was counted as my RDO.

For 3 years before retirement I worked 3 days a week because I could not handle the attitude of todays greedy employers that want your blood and pay a pittance.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: hairygit on May 31, 2012, 08:51:29 AM

Quote
Then I made the mistake of mentioning I never have a break (drive truck on tachograph), well this is all the conversation revolved around from then on, I was breaking law etc
That is a crazy thing to do, tachograph offences have very serious consequences, including massive fines, and even prison (rare but it HAS happened!) VOSA have a habit of checking tachos when vehicles are checked at the roadside, and as you are probably aware you have to carry the previous 4 weeks tachos with you. Also, your employer is obliged to keep the used tachos for 12 months, and VOSA can swoop unannounced on your employers office at any time and inspect them. YOU and your employer can be prosecuted at any point during the 12 months for ANY tacho infringements, insufficient breaks, insufficient daily rest (10 hours, but can be reduced to 9 hours 2 days in any working week) plus a whole range of other issues :thumbsdown: PLEASE, Stop doing this immediately, NO employer or job is worth the risk, and with the new digital tachos (compulsory in vehicles registered from 1/1/2007) you will get hung, drawn and quartered if you get caught. VOSA have just anounced a major crackdown on tacho offences, so it may be too late already :'( I have been driving coaches for 25+ years, and I know there is no way round it! The rules are for YOUR protection from dodgy employers, as well as everybody else using the roads, so take care out there! 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: galway on May 31, 2012, 06:28:35 PM
Not doing too bad had same lecture twice in two days!

All my paper tacho's and my card when driving newer trucks all comply with appropriate regulations, breaks/rest time recorded etc. We actually have our tacho's reviewed independently every month and any issues are brought to our attention - I have yet to be called in by the auditor. We have to download our electronic tacho card every week to our national Road Safety Authority, again all my records are in order.

However, I take your point on safety grounds and I have today started taking my statutory rest times, with a small bonus, got back to depot over an hour later than normal, manager noticed and is going to review my workload.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on May 31, 2012, 06:33:14 PM
Quote from: galway on May 31, 2012, 06:28:35 PM
....got back to depot over an hour later than normal, manager noticed and is going to review my workload.

Excellent news mate. :thumbsup:  Amazing for a manager to notice so quickly. ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on May 31, 2012, 07:39:10 PM
Amazing for a manager to notice, period!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on June 01, 2012, 04:10:28 PM
Second that, because no way will your manager "remember" you told him about it if it ends up in court !


I work my correct hours, and for a lot of jobs that's actually a good idea anyway. The 40 hour week didn't come about through union militancy it came about largely because employers of the time and government all eager to maximise productivity discovered that over 40hrs/week actual productivity and effectiveness in a lot of jobs goes down.. 60hrs/week is actually less productive than 40.

Modern "human resources" management is entirely about propaganda, buck passing and manipulation (and I'll point out here  have an MBA and got the highest marks on the course on the HR units... so I feel qualified by be rude). In the far right American rhetoric they build all their theories from they threw out scientific evidence as well as decency.

Old style models weren't any "nicer". They didn't pick 40 hours to promote good health and wellbeing of workers (some notably exceptions like the quaker run businesses of course), they did it to maximise work done. But at least it was based on the actual science.

And yes our French friends with their overlong lunches, short working hours, and big holidays are more productive than the UK. Odd that, and somehow I don't think its caused by the unpasteurised cheese 8)


*/rant*

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: keerout on June 01, 2012, 06:10:35 PM
 :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:  :evil:
GOOD rant!  :thumbsup:
Gerard
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on June 02, 2012, 12:50:53 PM
As the Gangmaster said in Aufwiedersehen, Pet third series when the lads complained about the two teams of Serbian and Kosovan workers always fighting, " I can get you British workers for sure - drink tea, scratch balls, cost twice as much"  :smiley-laughing:


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: 1936ace on June 02, 2012, 01:03:01 PM
just had dataloggers put into fire engine at work. It was sold to us as having a rear camera and satnav, both already supplied on fire truck. The "boss" can now see where we go how fast etc etc. talk about big brother but the best part is logging in. each time you have to drive it on starting engine you have to swipe the card reader that is yours, wait for satnav unit to turn on, agree to conditions(takes a minute or so to read) then click agree then it goes to the screen with the vehicle details height length weight etc and you then have to agree click agree then enter details of travel but you have to choose from the 7 listed(cant find coffee run :smiley-laughing:) then enter some other detail and then we are off. My first message to comms will be now "delayed response due to trying to enter details into datalog", then again the fire will wait for me!
BArt
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on June 02, 2012, 01:06:46 PM
What the...? That is nuts!  My mistake, i was under the mistaken impression that a fire was an emergency.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: 1936ace on June 02, 2012, 01:13:52 PM
i can understand why some companies, like security money trucks need to know where they are and others to reduce private driving on weekends but it is not like i get to take it home. and the truck is pretty easy to find, either at the station or at a job(except the coffee runs, but thats another story my crew get in trouble for)
and to make it more fun, we are getting finger print scanners to sign on and off . again told it is to improve the payroll so we get paid correctly, b****t. it will cost them more as no longer will we jump on the truck when a call comes in at 5mins to finish so the day guys came go home, no they will go and get paid overtime while we sit at station until they get back and then take over
BArt
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on June 02, 2012, 09:53:18 PM
Quote from: 1936ace on June 02, 2012, 01:03:01 PM
agree to conditions(takes a minute or so to read

Do you have authority to enter into binding contracts for your employer ? I think you'll find that most employment contracts and policies require that only your legal department is to do this. It's a fun and innocent enquiry way to turn corporate drones inside out with silly software licensing.

Hohum

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pete Mc on June 03, 2012, 01:06:40 AM
This morning I had to go into work for a spot of training(CPC).I.left for work at around 7am and then went to a mates house for a few hours,arriving home at around 7.
After going in the bath and getting changed into my dossing clothes,I decided to have a spot of dinner.
After having dinner I.then went to.the sink to run some water to wash my dinner pots.And thats when I spotted it.
It being a hole through the glass in my back door,with the remainder of the glass in place still but with the distinctive pattern of crazing which happens to toughened glass.
I discovered this at just gone 8:30,so until the morning I cannot get to anywhere to buy wood so I can at least board up the damage.So bang goes going to the DEMU showcase.
P-ed off is not my current state of mind but was when I found it.I also found a pebble sitting on the seat of my currently off of the road Honda CBR600f with small shards of glass next to it.The type usually found next to the item that smashed it in the first place.
So tonight I'm not going to bed,I have a short piece of 2x1 timber on the floor next to me just in case someone has a go at getting in,then I will go out for some plywood in the morning and some beading so I can board it up.
One thing I did notice on looking at the alarm status and events display on my burglar alarm control panel was,there was no alarm activation so I can only assume it was a malicious act.
A couple of weeks ago,some oik in one of the rental properties on our street had his moped seized by the police due to his anti social riding habits,these being that he and his mates like to.ride down the backs of our properties at stupid o'clock in the morning or night,noisy pipes and a tuned 50cc hairdryer engine.
Having had it seized,he went on faceache and thanked us all,us being the residents of iur street for this,for this happening.
Now call me stupid if you like but if someone behaves properly,they don't get their property removed by the police and crushed,do they?
So this unfortunate little creep has a chip on his shoulder.I have a bill to pay for repairing damage to my property and if I find out who did it,well,I'm not sure.Two wrings and all that.
When I saw my neighbour,he said he heard a noice at about 7:20am at the back of our properties but didn't see anything,he had heard numbnut with his new hairdryer fo up the backs at full throttle onlt minutes earlier though.
I know that as a rational human being that I cannot jump to conclusions but that is indeed what has happened.I may even invest in a cheap cctv set up to keep an eye on the rear of my property,horse and stable door,anyone?
So,no DEMU tomorrow for me then.

Pete
:Class37: :NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 03, 2012, 09:28:22 AM
Hi Pete,

Very sorry to hear about some idiot lobbing a stone through your window, and hope you can effect repairs quickly today. I too would have kept a chunky piece of wood next to me but you are quite right in that 2 wrongs do not make a right so please resist the temptation to brain anyone.
Have you contacted the police at all?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pete Mc on June 03, 2012, 11:00:42 PM
Thanks for the sentiment Mick,it is much appreciated.
The good thing about this thread is that you can get things off your chest,even if no one conments on them.I think,on balance,jumping to conclusions may be the wrong thing to do,however,this doesn't mean I won't obtain info,as I have lived here for 21 years and am a valued part of our small community.After speaking with my next door neighbour whilst boarding the door up,his brother turned up.His brother has a business fairly local to where I live and knows people who may be able provide information as to who did this.
This is not to say that I will take the law into my own hands,although if it is the people I suspect has done it,rest assured,I will go to the police.
I can't remember whether I actually posted on here about an incident regarding my wheelie bin some weeks ago,when I caught three lads nabbing my bin,when I confronted them and told them I wanted it back right that minute,to my surprise they did just that.
And promptly removed their booty,which was scrap wiring,or it was when they'd gotten hold of it.Only thing was,it was high voltage cabling,the type found underground or beside railway lines.It also had a push and twist style connector on one end,and there was a fair length of the stuff too.
So other than the moped and the cabling this is the basis for my assumption.
Anyhow,today I went to Wickes and bought a sheet of 6mm ply of 4ft by 2ft and got busy chopping out the glass which went everywhere due to it being toughened and cleared out all the old hard putty and fitted the plywood in the place of the glass and cleaned up.Job done and all for the principle sum of £16.49.
The good thing is that once I've replaced the glass,the plywood will be used on the layout,proberbly for the base of the town section so if its warped a bit due to being exposed to the weather,it doesn't really matter too much.
After considering things,I didn't call the police due to there being only damage to the door and nothing else,however as previously stated,if more shananigans go.off then I will go to them with a rather short dossier of events that may lead them to potential scrap metal thieves up the road.
So,today was blighted by this situation and prevented me from going to the DEMU Showcase,tomorrow I shall get on with some important layout work and tuesday I'm off to Trainfest or whatever its called at the NRM.Its club night on tuesday night and after work on wednesday I'm off to my uncle's to have a look at his baseboards which he's had built in his garage,only thing is he's not having n gauge on it,only oo.Boo.
Still,an end to end run with a roundy between each terminus is going to be a hell of a layout,set in late steam early diesel era and with dcc sound to boot.
Anyway,I'm no longer angry,what a great forum this is.

Cheers

Pete
:Class37: :NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 04, 2012, 09:37:29 AM
Hi Pete,

Glad you're feeling more chipper today - it's worth remembering that oiks like them usually get what's coming to them in one form or another ;)
Your mission, Pete, should you decide to accept it.....................is to convince your uncle that he can get twice as much N gauge in the space he has available for that other stuff :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: kaiwhara on June 04, 2012, 11:11:21 AM
My Rant for this thread:

I turn a Quarter Century tommorow ( :thumbsup: ), my birthday present is to take my Ford Mondeo down to the Garage to replace the Clutch (slipping on hills, my last car did this too), and replace the right front bearing - which is rough ( I know not about cars so that means nout to me) and subsiquently the car failed its WOF. ( :thumbsdown: ). Looking to be around NZD1100!

Happy Birthday to me...  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: galway on June 04, 2012, 11:21:02 AM
Quote from: kaiwhara on June 04, 2012, 11:11:21 AM
My Rant for this thread:

I turn a Quarter Century tommorow ( :thumbsup: ), my birthday present is to take my Ford Mondeo down to the Garage to replace the Clutch (slipping on hills, my last car did this too), and replace the right front bearing - which is rough ( I know not about cars so that means nout to me) and subsiquently the car failed its WOF. ( :thumbsdown: ). Looking to be around NZD1100!

Happy Birthday to me...  >:(

Well happy birthday  :beers: its a very long time since I had my quarter century (more than double now!)

Cars can be a nightmare I now buy a car every two years for about 1500 euros do 90000km then scrap and get about 400 euros and start again this works out at about 12 euros a week, my petrol bill is nearer 70 euros a week  :thumbsdown:

:A1Tornado:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: moogle on June 04, 2012, 11:48:57 AM
Quote from: galway on June 04, 2012, 11:21:02 AM
Quote from: kaiwhara on June 04, 2012, 11:11:21 AM
My Rant for this thread:

I turn a Quarter Century tommorow ( :thumbsup: ), my birthday present is to take my Ford Mondeo down to the Garage to replace the Clutch (slipping on hills, my last car did this too), and replace the right front bearing - which is rough ( I know not about cars so that means nout to me) and subsiquently the car failed its WOF. ( :thumbsdown: ). Looking to be around NZD1100!

Happy Birthday to me...  >:(

Well happy birthday  :beers: its a very long time since I had my quarter century (more than double now!)

Cars can be a nightmare I now buy a car every two years for about 1500 euros do 90000km then scrap and get about 400 euros and start again this works out at about 12 euros a week, my petrol bill is nearer 70 euros a week  :thumbsdown:

:A1Tornado:

Happy Birthday Kaiwhara  :beers:
Sorry to hear about the car, they always go wrong when you can't afford them and new cars just aren't built to last anymore.

My last car, which was my 1st, developed gearbox problems.
It would cost more to fix than I paid for the car (£500) so it went to meet its maker.  :(
So my 20 year old 190E is now up there in Mercedes heaven!  :angel:
So Galway, I can understand why you do that.

Personally, when I can afford another car I will try to get something from the 1950's.  :o
No tax or mot needed and cheap insurance so the money you save can go towards the car, not to the taxman or anyone else who wants to rip you off.
They were built to last and maintain/fix yourself. No laptop needed to be plugged in to find out what's wrong!  :thumbsup:
OK, they don't do 60 mpg like modern stuff, about half that usually, but then I don't do long distances very much.
As I'm trying to get work thats local within a 10 mile radius, so the mpg would be fine.
They don't generally have great acceleration, think 0-60 in 30 secs, or a high top speed, but I'm not a speed merchant so again its fine.
All I need now is a pigging job! Aaarrgh! The dole queue's driving me insane!  >:(

Mini rant over.  ;D  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on June 04, 2012, 05:45:47 PM
Look on the bright side. In 25 years time you'll be celebrating your birthday by taking the car down the garage except you'll no longer remember where you put the keys, your back will ache if you spend ages looking under the bonnet and when you'll have to remember to go to the loo before you leave in case the garage is slow. Meanwhile the kids will be phoning you from university asking for an extra loan...

Emjoy the moments 8)

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on June 04, 2012, 05:58:10 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on June 04, 2012, 05:45:47 PM
Look on the bright side. In 25 years time you'll be celebrating your birthday by taking the car down the garage except you'll no longer remember where you put the keys, your back will ache if you spend ages looking under the bonnet and when you'll have to remember to go to the loo before you leave in case the garage is slow. Meanwhile the kids will be phoning you from university asking for an extra loan...

Emjoy the moments 8)

Alan

Spot on! :smiley-laughing: Thanks for putting a smile on my face EP.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on June 04, 2012, 09:34:39 PM
Yeah thanks EP you just reminded me of how I am today, yikes.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: kaiwhara on June 05, 2012, 05:05:28 AM
Now I am really angry, I have been quoted a total of NZD3580 to replace the Clutch and Bearing, and Ford quoted even more just for the Clutch. At this rate I am looking at a new car!

Best Birthday Ever (Not)  :computerangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on June 05, 2012, 06:21:07 AM
Quote from: kaiwhara on June 05, 2012, 05:05:28 AM
Now I am really angry, I have been quoted a total of NZD3580 to replace the Clutch and Bearing, and Ford quoted even more just for the Clutch. At this rate I am looking at a new car!

Best Birthday Ever (Not)  :computerangry:

What!!! :o  That's about £1700 for a full clutch  kit and fitting, and I thought our country was a rip off sort of place.

I won't mention what I've been quoted for a full kit and fitting for my 03 Mondeo but it was no where near that sort of cost.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: kaiwhara on June 05, 2012, 06:42:04 AM
No trains for me for quite a while!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on June 05, 2012, 07:09:05 AM
Quote from: kaiwhara on June 05, 2012, 05:05:28 AM
Now I am really angry, I have been quoted a total of NZD3580 to replace the Clutch and Bearing, and Ford quoted even more just for the Clutch. At this rate I am looking at a new car!

Best Birthday Ever (Not)  :computerangry:

Crikey that is daylight robbery, could be time for you to join the rest of your compatriots over here in Australia, we only half rob you.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on June 05, 2012, 08:17:24 AM
There I was thinking £500 was a lot to fit an uprated clutch in an Imprezza.
Could understand the price if it was a torque convertor for an auto box.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on June 05, 2012, 08:34:13 AM
Things that get my goat

Horseracing , especially Royal Ascot
Eamonn Holmes
Weather girls
Billy Bragg
Kebabs
Third rate British hotels usually overpriced
Tattoos
David Beckham's clobber
Russell Grant
Celebs doing it for Chariteeee

Oh dear the list is endless
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: kaiwhara on June 05, 2012, 09:14:18 AM
I wish it were 500 Quid, under Currency conversion the Mondeo Wagon was a little more than that at NZ$1200, which is what I was expecting for this one. Sadly not.

Oh, and as far as I can tell, it is just a simple, Garden Variety Clutch, nothing special to it as far as my very limited knowledge of Car's goes...

Quote from: Oldman on June 05, 2012, 08:17:24 AM
There I was thinking £500 was a lot to fit an uprated clutch in an Imprezza.
Could understand the price if it was a torque convertor for an auto box.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on June 05, 2012, 09:26:40 AM
Quote from: Agrippa on June 05, 2012, 08:34:13 AM
Things that get my goat

Horseracing , especially Royal Ascot
Eamonn Holmes
Weather girls
Billy Bragg
Kebabs
Third rate British hotels usually overpriced
Tattoos
David Beckham's clobber
Russell Grant
Celebs doing it for Chariteeee

Oh dear the list is endless


:smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:  That reminds me of a mate of mine, when he was asked if he was racist he said no way I just don't like anybody at all.

Me I just don't like all the brainwashing that goes on these days, if I had my way I would put scissors through the TV cable chuck the radio and not buy newspapers, trouble is SWMBO likes that junk.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Joe 90 on June 05, 2012, 12:18:52 PM
Quote from: kaiwhara on June 05, 2012, 09:14:18 AM
I wish it were 500 Quid, under Currency conversion the Mondeo Wagon was a little more than that at NZ$1200, which is what I was expecting for this one. Sadly not.

Oh, and as far as I can tell, it is just a simple, Garden Variety Clutch, nothing special to it as far as my very limited knowledge of Car's goes...

Quote from: Oldman on June 05, 2012, 08:17:24 AM
There I was thinking £500 was a lot to fit an uprated clutch in an Imprezza.
Could understand the price if it was a torque convertor for an auto box.



Last year the engine on my 10yr old Ford Mondeo decided to give up the ghost, it only had 60000miles on the clock, and the main dealers quoted me £4000 to repair it. So now it is in the scrapheap in the sky. How it has become so expensive to repair anything these days is beyond me. And it is not just cars. It is now making us a throwaway society as it has become cheaper to buy a new item than repair it.

Progress, I suppose.............
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: StufromEGDL on June 05, 2012, 12:32:57 PM
QuoteAnd it is not just cars. It is now making us a throwaway society as it has become cheaper to buy a new item than repair it.

Progress, I suppose.............

Bit like Dapol locos then....

Later;
STU from EGDL
:Class89:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on June 05, 2012, 12:42:13 PM
Quote from: Joe 90 on June 05, 2012, 12:18:52 PM

Last year the engine on my 10yr old Ford Mondeo decided to give up the ghost, it only had 60000miles on the clock, and the main dealers quoted me £4000 to repair it. So now it is in the scrapheap in the sky. How it has become so expensive to repair anything these days is beyond me. And it is not just cars. It is now making us a throwaway society as it has become cheaper to buy a new item than repair it.

Progress, I suppose.............

Many years ago, a pal of mine took a Mondeo to a Ford dealership to get a new clutch. The Service Manager asked him if he wanted to wait, so he sat in the "lounge" and watched the guy work on his car. It took about 40 mins. When he was presented with the bill, there was 2 hours labour charge, which he queried. He was told that 2 hours was the time allowed by Ford for changing a clutch and if he wanted his car back, that was what he had to pay.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on June 05, 2012, 12:51:03 PM
Quote from: StufromEGDL on June 05, 2012, 12:32:57 PM
QuoteAnd it is not just cars. It is now making us a throwaway society as it has become cheaper to buy a new item than repair it.

Progress, I suppose.............

Bit like Dapol locos then....

Later;
STU from EGDL
:Class89:

Now don't get me started. Bought four, three died within warranty, one died after 6 months & 2 days, (that's 2 days after the warranty ran out) That one is still with BR Lines.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: SymonC on June 05, 2012, 01:17:43 PM
Quote from: Malc on June 05, 2012, 12:42:13 PM
Quote from: Joe 90 on June 05, 2012, 12:18:52 PM

Last year the engine on my 10yr old Ford Mondeo decided to give up the ghost, it only had 60000miles on the clock, and the main dealers quoted me £4000 to repair it. So now it is in the scrapheap in the sky. How it has become so expensive to repair anything these days is beyond me. And it is not just cars. It is now making us a throwaway society as it has become cheaper to buy a new item than repair it.

Progress, I suppose.............

Many years ago, a pal of mine took a Mondeo to a Ford dealership to get a new clutch. The Service Manager asked him if he wanted to wait, so he sat in the "lounge" and watched the guy work on his car. It took about 40 mins. When he was presented with the bill, there was 2 hours labour charge, which he queried. He was told that 2 hours was the time allowed by Ford for changing a clutch and if he wanted his car back, that was what he had to pay.


A couple of years ago I had some work done my our old Honda Civic, we waited while the work was carried out.

It took just under 30 minutes.

When I was presented with the bill I was charged for one hour's labour.  When I queried this I was told, it normally takes an hour but our best mechanic did your work and his really quick.

After 10 minutes arguing where I pointed out that it wasn't my fault if the mechanic only took 30 minutes they reluctantly halved the labour charge!

Safe to say that I've never used that dealer again!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 05, 2012, 01:53:16 PM
Quote from: SymonC on June 05, 2012, 01:17:43 PM
Quote from: Malc on June 05, 2012, 12:42:13 PM
Quote from: Joe 90 on June 05, 2012, 12:18:52 PM

Last year the engine on my 10yr old Ford Mondeo decided to give up the ghost, it only had 60000miles on the clock, and the main dealers quoted me £4000 to repair it. So now it is in the scrapheap in the sky. How it has become so expensive to repair anything these days is beyond me. And it is not just cars. It is now making us a throwaway society as it has become cheaper to buy a new item than repair it.

Progress, I suppose.............

Many years ago, a pal of mine took a Mondeo to a Ford dealership to get a new clutch. The Service Manager asked him if he wanted to wait, so he sat in the "lounge" and watched the guy work on his car. It took about 40 mins. When he was presented with the bill, there was 2 hours labour charge, which he queried. He was told that 2 hours was the time allowed by Ford for changing a clutch and if he wanted his car back, that was what he had to pay.


A couple of years ago I had some work done my our old Honda Civic, we waited while the work was carried out.

It took just under 30 minutes.

When I was presented with the bill I was charged for one hour's labour.  When I queried this I was told, it normally takes an hour but our best mechanic did your work and his really quick.

After 10 minutes arguing where I pointed out that it wasn't my fault if the mechanic only took 30 minutes they reluctantly halved the labour charge!

Safe to say that I've never used that dealer again!

Ah - but if you had argued faster you'd have had the same result in half the time ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: 4x2 on June 05, 2012, 02:09:07 PM
When your car dies, take it anywhere EXCEPT the main dealer !!!!

They will empty your wallet faster than the Tax man !
I'm lucky, most faults i can fix myself, but every now and then an awkward job comes up and i have to farm it out. I use a local garage with a very good reputaion and experienced staff - good tip, if the guy holding the spanner looks like an extra from 'the land that time forgot' chances are he's about to cause more problems than you started with !

Kwik fit are also worth avoiding... A good friend of mine booked an MOT and ended up paying more than his car was worth, and it was no better other than the mot certificate...  :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on June 05, 2012, 04:56:32 PM
Quote from: StufromEGDL on June 05, 2012, 12:32:57 PM
Bit like Dapol locos then....

Well like cars you can always re-engine them or soup them up 8)

Alan (having finished explaining that it's not an obscene doodle on the coach drawing its a lamp bracket)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Joe 90 on June 06, 2012, 02:50:12 PM
Quote from: 4x2 on June 05, 2012, 02:09:07 PM
When your car dies, take it anywhere EXCEPT the main dealer !!!!

They will empty your wallet faster than the Tax man !


I totally agree with that last statement but I did take my poorly Mondeo to an independent garage and they just said it would still cost more to repair than the car was worth.
So shank's pony and buses were my mode of transport for a while.

What I did notice though was I seemed to have a few more bob left in my pocket at the end of the month. :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: 4x2 on June 06, 2012, 03:55:49 PM
I personally would have taken it elsewhere... A second hand engine would cost about £500, buget say another £200 in bits n bobs and most smaller garages would happily do an engine swap for £1000 - that's well under half of what your original quote was.

Sounds like the main dealer didn't want the work so quoted you silly money - even if you factor in the cost of a new engine, that's still harsh !

Oh well, Hope you have more success with your next car - if you need advice in the future, i'll be happy to help where i can !  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: 1936ace on June 10, 2012, 01:01:13 PM
Got back to work after my four days off to find the clowns in it have filtered the n gauge forum from our pc's. What am I supposed to do at work now!
Bart
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on June 10, 2012, 02:10:46 PM
Nothing, just give up work  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on June 10, 2012, 02:35:02 PM
Quote from: 1936ace on June 10, 2012, 01:01:13 PM
Got back to work after my four days off to find the clowns in it have filtered the n gauge forum from our pc's. What am I supposed to do at work now!
Bart

A couple of suggestions  :smiley-laughing:

(http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/Scotsoft/Funnies/9931c2ff.jpg)

(http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/Scotsoft/Funnies/8361f0d8.jpg)

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 19, 2012, 11:50:17 AM
Angry with myself really 'cos I am having a mental block about how to go about my baseboards. I know what I want to achieve but my head is reeling with conflicting ways of going about it ::) to the effect I have stopped to clear down and think again. (Outer loops on a higher level, and minimum clearance for the inner loop to pass underneath it)
I have to get this right before I take up the jigsaw I've only used twice in the last 2 years and convert Sundeala/wood frame to sawdust.

Am also miffed I have missed out on 12 x Freightliners wagons on Fleabay, but I'm not going higher than my bid and hope I've not been in competition with someone from the forum :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on June 19, 2012, 12:49:35 PM
Hi Mike, a couple of nice Aussie Bundaberg Rums and a nice lay down should do the trick.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on June 25, 2012, 03:45:59 PM
 ::) Fuming at the NHS whose left hand hasn`t a clue as to what the right hands doing and even when they do sort what 1+1 =2 refuse to tell the suspect patient what they have in store for him/her  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Joe 90 on June 25, 2012, 05:23:35 PM
Hi Jonclox

I know exactly how you feel.
Up until last year I had been looking after my ailing father who had a couple of things wrong with him. Once we got past the GPs and to a consultant who happened to be, in my opinion, a proper doctor only then did things start to happen as they should do.
Getting past the GPs was our problem who, again in my own opinion, do not have a clue as to what they are doing. Even when you tell them what the problem is they just ignore you, saying it can't be that until days/weeks later they eventually find out it is that. By which time the problem has compounded.

Anyway.........I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the debacle of the football last night. If I was a manager of one or two of these mediocre players being paid superman type wages they would be in my office forthwith with regard to getting the club's money back. Absolute disgrace!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 25, 2012, 05:44:15 PM
Ah Joe,
You have opened Pandora's box, taken out a can of worms and thrown it in a hornet's nest as far as footie is concerned. It tends to be one of the subjects that gets very emotive and heated so we try to avoid it wherever possible.

As to the medical bit - totally agree with you. My Mum has suffered horrendously at the hands of her GP who seems to think it's no problem to change her meds (presumably for something cheaper) and to hell with what it does to her. If it ain't broke, why fix it? Grrrr.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on June 25, 2012, 05:50:01 PM
Quote from: Joe 90 on June 25, 2012, 05:23:35 PM
.I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the debacle of the football last night. If I was a manager of one or two of these mediocre players being paid superman type wages they would be in my office forthwith with regard to getting the club's money back. Absolute disgrace!!

Quote from: newportnobby on June 25, 2012, 05:44:15 PM
Ah Joe,
You have opened Pandora's box, taken out a can of worms and thrown it in a hornet's nest as far as footie is concerned. It tends to be one of the subjects that gets very emotive and heated so we try to avoid it wherever possible.

Precisely  :thumbsup:

Reason everyone's avoiding it is the half of the forum that's into football is too depressed to talk about it, and the other half are just glad we don't have to hear about it any more!  :smiley-laughing:


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on June 25, 2012, 06:50:22 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on June 25, 2012, 05:50:01 PM
Quote from: Joe 90 on June 25, 2012, 05:23:35 PM
.I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the debacle of the football last night. If I was a manager of one or two of these mediocre players being paid superman type wages they would be in my office forthwith with regard to getting the club's money back. Absolute disgrace!!

Quote from: newportnobby on June 25, 2012, 05:44:15 PM
Ah Joe,
You have opened Pandora's box, taken out a can of worms and thrown it in a hornet's nest as far as footie is concerned. It tends to be one of the subjects that gets very emotive and heated so we try to avoid it wherever possible.

Precisely  :thumbsup:

Reason everyone's avoiding it is the half of the forum that's into football is too depressed to talk about it, and the other half are just glad we don't have to hear about it any more!  :smiley-laughing:


Paul


Anyone for Tennis?  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on June 25, 2012, 07:00:03 PM
NO !!!   :smiley-laughing:


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on June 25, 2012, 07:03:08 PM
Knackered tyres. Kwik fit. £212 worse off :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 25, 2012, 07:15:11 PM
Quote from: OwL729 on June 25, 2012, 07:03:08 PM
Knackered tyres. Kwik fit. £212 worse off :thumbsdown:

Ouch - that's 50% of a CJM :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on June 25, 2012, 07:27:52 PM
Quote from: Joe 90 on June 25, 2012, 05:23:35 PM
Hi Jonclox

I know exactly how you feel.
Up until last year I had been looking after my ailing father who had a couple of things wrong with him. Once we got past the GPs and to a consultant who happened to be, in my opinion, a proper doctor only then did things start to happen as they should do.
Getting past the GPs was our problem who, again in my own opinion, do not have a clue as to what they are doing. Even when you tell them what the problem is they just ignore you, saying it can't be that until days/weeks later they eventually find out it is that. By which time the problem has compounded.

Hi Joe 90
We have the reverse situation here  ::) My GP is and always has been most helpful but the consultant who he has had to send me to see is just going ahead with his plans without letting me know a thing.
I may as well be just a number on a piece of paper and not a human being to be informed or consulted. He could sort my prostrate out by tried and tested means but has decided to try me out on a new treatment course and sent me to see his anaesthetist today to see if I could take a general anaesthetic....of course nobody at the hospital knew about it or my apointment etc etc etc  >:( at the end of my visit I was told by the anaestetist that the next I will hear..quite soon probably... is what date the ops. going to be on.
Great stuff ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on June 25, 2012, 07:29:23 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on June 25, 2012, 07:00:03 PM
NO !!!   :smiley-laughing:


Paul
Double NOOOOOOOOO :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: hairygit on June 25, 2012, 07:32:39 PM
How about a lobby to BAN all sport from television, or have dedicated channels for it instead of screwing up the main channels schedules, I get sick of S.W.M.B.O. whining about missing her soaps etc! :evil:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 25, 2012, 07:44:15 PM
Quote from: hairygit on June 25, 2012, 07:32:39 PM
How about a lobby to BAN all sport from television, or have dedicated channels for it instead of screwing up the main channels schedules, I get sick of S.W.M.B.O. whining about missing her soaps etc! :evil:

It does tee me off the BBC has channels BBC3/BBC4 and the red button but 3 & 4 don't start until 7pm and the red button is underused and when it is used, a lot of it is just on a loop.
ITV4 carries some good motorsport but ITV3 is just full of rubbish repeats >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on June 25, 2012, 07:53:43 PM
Quote from: hairygit on June 25, 2012, 07:32:39 PM
How about a lobby to BAN all sport from television, or have dedicated channels for it instead of screwing up the main channels schedules, I get sick of S.W.M.B.O. whining about missing her soaps etc! :evil:

I would like to see dedicated channels for sport and soaps  :thumbsup:

There seems to be some anger here, how about a rousing chorus of "O' Solo Mio"?  ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Joe 90 on June 25, 2012, 07:59:10 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on June 25, 2012, 07:53:43 PM
Quote from: hairygit on June 25, 2012, 07:32:39 PM
How about a lobby to BAN all sport from television, or have dedicated channels for it instead of screwing up the main channels schedules, I get sick of S.W.M.B.O. whining about missing her soaps etc! :evil:

I would like to see dedicated channels for sport and soaps  :thumbsup:

There seems to be some anger here, how about a rousing chorus of "O' Solo Mio"?  ;D

Don't forget to include the 'reality' shows! :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on June 25, 2012, 08:06:26 PM
Quote from: Joe 90 on June 25, 2012, 07:59:10 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on June 25, 2012, 07:53:43 PM
Quote from: hairygit on June 25, 2012, 07:32:39 PM
How about a lobby to BAN all sport from television, or have dedicated channels for it instead of screwing up the main channels schedules, I get sick of S.W.M.B.O. whining about missing her soaps etc! :evil:

I would like to see dedicated channels for sport and soaps  :thumbsup:

There seems to be some anger here, how about a rousing chorus of "O' Solo Mio"?  ;D

Don't forget to include the 'reality' shows! :)

... and the antique, selling/ buying houses/ property, cooking, game shows, mind numbing chat shows with people past their use by dates expired - this could almost be a new topic  :evil:  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Joe 90 on June 25, 2012, 08:10:20 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on June 25, 2012, 08:06:26 PM
Quote from: Joe 90 on June 25, 2012, 07:59:10 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on June 25, 2012, 07:53:43 PM
Quote from: hairygit on June 25, 2012, 07:32:39 PM
How about a lobby to BAN all sport from television, or have dedicated channels for it instead of screwing up the main channels schedules, I get sick of S.W.M.B.O. whining about missing her soaps etc! :evil:

I would like to see dedicated channels for sport and soaps  :thumbsup:

There seems to be some anger here, how about a rousing chorus of "O' Solo Mio"?  ;D

Don't forget to include the 'reality' shows! :)

... and the antique, selling/ buying houses/ property, cooking, game shows, mind numbing chat shows with people past their use by dates expired - this could almost be a new topic  :evil:  :smiley-laughing:

Ah...British television, the envy of the world. ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on June 25, 2012, 08:11:24 PM
As a family we got sooo feed up of repeats and soaps that we returned our TV licence over 5 years ago. We've never looked back. SWIMBO does miss Wimbledon but she can watch the highlights on her net book.

Personally  I'm not a watcher of any over paid sport persons. No one is worth that sort of money for just playing sport. Before I start to rant I'd better stop.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on June 25, 2012, 08:41:36 PM
What annoys me is how Sky/Eurosport dictate the way that sport is run in this country e.g. kick off times. I am a Harlequins rugby fan and last year we reached the final of the Amlin cup to play Stade Francais which was played at Cardiff City football station on a Friday evening. The  kick off time was such that the last train back to London left before the end of the match - all because of TV schedules. Absolutely bonkers!

I also think that the income that football clubs get from the TV deals encourages some clubs to live beyond their means.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 25, 2012, 08:44:11 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on June 25, 2012, 07:53:43 PM


There seems to be some anger here

Uh - this is the angry thread, John. Are you lost? :evil: :wave:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on June 25, 2012, 08:53:44 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on June 25, 2012, 08:44:11 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on June 25, 2012, 07:53:43 PM


There seems to be some anger here

Uh - this is the angry thread, John. Are you lost? :evil: :wave:

I've been lost since the sixties Mick  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pete Mc on June 25, 2012, 09:07:45 PM
I've got the full Sky HD package,with a hard drive half full of Sky Plus loveliness.I know its quite pricey,but I justify it by actually staying in and watching it.I can't go out too much due to a company drink and drug policy,and a railway habit that is also quite expensive.
While I know some of you won't contribute to the Murdock dynasty in any way,shape or form I just don't think I'd be able to get by without it.I seldom watch anything the BBC produce,Top Gear and a few other things,so thats my justification over.

Now for the other subject:

FOOTBALL

I'm sure that everyone has their own idea about team formation and such like,I had an idea that perhaps no one else may have thought of.

Premiership footballists all like their cars,right?

Well,my idea is this.

Why don't the FA approach a car manufacturer,say Bugatti or McClaren,and commision them to build 22 or whatever the number of players are allowed to go to a tournament,that are exclusive to them at whatever cost,that will never be replicated anywhere else as a reward for winning the Euro's or in the next case,2014 World Cup.It has to be unique,so they are the only people who own such a car.It will be expensive but as all these so called players earn £200k plus a week,there is currently nothing else they could possibly want.
And if they lose and crash out,they don't get a plane ticket home.Not even if they pay for it themselves.

I have a plan for this as well.

If they lose,what they have to do is drive the worst car ever made home,all the way to their big houses as a preverbal walk of shame.As the tournament was held in Ukraine and Poland,how about a Lada or FSO Polonez.Old preferably and with defects that mean it will be an experience they will not want to repeat.Make it a kind of Cannonball Run type thing where they have checkpoints so they actually drive the things and not get picked up in shiny 4x4's and then put in the sheds a few miles from the checkpoint.
Just an idea,thats all.

As for last night,they played like overpayed nancy boys.I lost interest after the last world cup,what with all the "its our turn to win"rubbish,so I'm not disappointed at all.

One question though.
Does anyone think that Italy's manager looked like a mafia kingpin?
Or is it just me?

I could well imagine him speaking in hushed tones,threatening them with finding a decapitated horses head in bed with them instead of their wives or womenfolk. ;D

Pete
:Class37: :NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on June 25, 2012, 09:22:53 PM
Nice to see the crew back home are getting the same crap on TV as we are here in Oz  :thumbsup:

Soaps, reality shows and cooking shows whats the world coming to, I sometimes think the population has turned into a load of freaks  (http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/madhouse/tease.gif)

As for sport, if they took sport out of Australia the place would collapse as sport over here is a religion with people worshiping over paid morons that run around with their shorts stuck up the crack of their behinds in a thing called Aussie Rules Football, then we have the cricket team OMG I wont go there  :thumbsdown:

As for our health system, compared to you lot back home we are pretty lucky, even though people moan about the system there are plenty of good GPs and if you are really sick there is no problem getting into a hospital the see a specialist and get fixed up  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Donkey on June 25, 2012, 09:28:57 PM
Dave, your cricket and rugby teams are absolute legends as far as we are concerned over here. They are IMHO quite simply the benchmark others aspire to.

Marty
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 25, 2012, 09:41:24 PM
I'm still hopping mad at Shane Warne for nicking my bird >:( :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Donkey on June 25, 2012, 09:43:11 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on June 25, 2012, 09:41:24 PM
I'm still hopping mad at Shane Warne for nicking my bird >:( :smiley-laughing:

Fair play sir  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on June 25, 2012, 09:50:02 PM
Quote from: Donkey on June 25, 2012, 09:28:57 PM
Dave, your cricket and rugby teams are absolute legends as far as we are concerned over here. They are IMHO quite simply the benchmark others aspire to.

Marty

And you also have Black Caviar (who still won despite a back injury and the errors of her pilot)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on June 25, 2012, 09:53:44 PM
Quote from: Joe 90 on June 25, 2012, 07:59:10 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on June 25, 2012, 07:53:43 PM
Quote from: hairygit on June 25, 2012, 07:32:39 PM
How about a lobby to BAN all sport from television, or have dedicated channels for it instead of screwing up the main channels schedules, I get sick of S.W.M.B.O. whining about missing her soaps etc! :evil:

I would like to see dedicated channels for sport and soaps  :thumbsup:

There seems to be some anger here, how about a rousing chorus of "O' Solo Mio"?  ;D

Don't forget to include the 'reality' shows! :)

And the thousands of celebrity chefs promoting all these food programmes! The ingredients for some of these alone would add up in price to be more than a RtR loco.
I dont see why I have to pay a subscription fee to (dressed as a licence) the BBC. Don't see why I should pay so much to a service that runs 60% repeats and features little of interest to me. I can choose my gas, electricity, mobile, Internet and phone supplier. Why can't I chose NOT to have the BBC ??? :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on June 25, 2012, 09:58:36 PM
Yes we have the bench mark for Cricket, Rugby Union, a Race Horse and loads of other sporting greats and that is wonderful BUT I for one get sick and tired of having it jammed down my throat day and night, TV, Radio and Newspapers.

Our 6.00pm news consists of 10 mins news, 10 mins adds and 10 mins sport, somewhere along the line they cram the weather report in and its always wrong anyway.

This is the "Angry Thread" so I am having a whinge  :thumbsup: im going back to bed.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pete Mc on June 25, 2012, 10:15:58 PM
How on earth do they get the weather wrong out there?

Isn't the weather forcast as follows:
In an Australian accent.

G'day,its going to be sunny and bladdy hot mate,so crack a four x and get some fly spray while your at it,they'll be hungry little baggers.

Pete
:Class37: :NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on June 25, 2012, 10:19:45 PM
Rotten evening, Della got in front work with a migraine and feeling sick, packed her off to bed (with empty bowl), put her dinner in the bin, opened my most recent ebay win of N Scale construction vehicles to find they ranged from 1:119 to 1:137 scale  >:(.  Emailed the seller to return them, he told me they were the closest you could get to n scale  :o so I emailed him a link to where he could get 1:150 scale construction vehicles  ;D, repacked them and they are going back tomorrow  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on June 25, 2012, 10:22:57 PM
Quote from: OwL729 on June 25, 2012, 09:53:44 PM
Quote from: Joe 90 on June 25, 2012, 07:59:10 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on June 25, 2012, 07:53:43 PM
Quote from: hairygit on June 25, 2012, 07:32:39 PM
How about a lobby to BAN all sport from television, or have dedicated channels for it instead of screwing up the main channels schedules, I get sick of S.W.M.B.O. whining about missing her soaps etc! :evil:

I would like to see dedicated channels for sport and soaps  :thumbsup:

There seems to be some anger here, how about a rousing chorus of "O' Solo Mio"?  ;D

Don't forget to include the 'reality' shows! :)

And the thousands of celebrity chefs promoting all these food programmes! The ingredients for some of these alone would add up in price to be more than a RtR loco.
I dont see why I have to pay a subscription fee to (dressed as a licence) the BBC. Don't see why I should pay so much to a service that runs 60% repeats and features little of interest to me. I can choose my gas, electricity, mobile, Internet and phone supplier. Why can't I chose NOT to have the BBC ??? :thumbsdown:

I agree totally! So much money is wasted by them on very poor programmes e.g. The Voice.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on June 25, 2012, 10:25:12 PM
Quote from: Pete Mc on June 25, 2012, 10:15:58 PM
How on earth do they get the weather wrong out there?

Isn't the weather forcast as follows:
In an Australian accent.

G'day,its going to be sunny and bladdy hot mate,so crack a four x and get some fly spray while your at it,they'll be hungry little baggers.

Pete
:Class37: :NGaugersRule:

:smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: wish it was still like that but the weather over here has gone crazy like it is everywhere else, at the moment we in sub tropical areas are freezing with morning temps of 0 Celsius  and tops of 17 Celsius, this time of the year its usually 8 to 10 degrees warmer.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on June 25, 2012, 10:28:38 PM
Blargh

So today start with the carpenter replacing the floorboards in one room where the old chipboard floor has died of old age (and indeed I put my foot through it which is how we found out).

Now we find the plonkers who did the original work years before we acquired the house put the plasterboard wall between that room and the next onto the boards, not along a joist as they should have. So we have an entire wall hanging in midair on dodgy chipboard floorboards, which might explain the small crack at the top.

Now we've got do both floors at once and very very carefully so we can keep the wall jacked up while the new proper floorboards go under it along with some bracing. Which means its spread from one room to two. To add to the fun the second room is the bathroom. The bathroom now looks like it took a direct artillery hit because the "nice" hide it all away toilet and bathroom sink section was built out over the floor so has to come out too along with the loo.

Thankfully it appears the bath is properly mounted on the joists directly.

All because some moron years ago did a hack job. I guess we should be glad we didn't wake up to find the partition wall downstairs.

Alan (normal kit posting service may be somewhat disrupted...)

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on June 25, 2012, 10:37:16 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on June 25, 2012, 10:19:45 PM
opened my most recent ebay win of N Scale construction vehicles to find they ranged from 1:119 to 1:137 scale

I don't suppose these are CAT vehicles are they? I have 4 and I'm sure they're around those scales too. Not according to the supplier though who shall remain nameless for now. I may even post pictures and dimensions elsewhere to get others' opinions.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on June 26, 2012, 10:17:08 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on June 25, 2012, 10:37:16 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on June 25, 2012, 10:19:45 PM
opened my most recent ebay win of N Scale construction vehicles to find they ranged from 1:119 to 1:137 scale

I don't suppose these are CAT vehicles are they? I have 4 and I'm sure they're around those scales too. Not according to the supplier though who shall remain nameless for now. I may even post pictures and dimensions elsewhere to get others' opinions.

Komatsu and other Japanese style stuff, but way over scale, nice models but way too chunky.  Much better going for the Tsugawa or Tomytec stuff from Hobby Search
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on June 28, 2012, 08:43:08 AM
Car died approaching a roundabout this morning (no brakes no power steering), narrowly avoided hitting the wall on the other side, got it restarted but off to the garage tomorrow if I can get it home.  Another big bill inbound no doubt  :( :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on June 28, 2012, 08:46:00 AM
Quote from: Lawrence on June 28, 2012, 08:43:08 AM
Car died approaching a roundabout this morning (no brakes no power steering), narrowly avoided hitting the wall on the other side, got it restarted but off to the garage tomorrow if I can get it home.  Another big bill inbound no doubt  :( :(

That is frightening - hope you get home ok. Take care
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on June 28, 2012, 09:03:56 AM
Quote from: Lawrence on June 28, 2012, 08:43:08 AM
Car died approaching a roundabout this morning (no brakes no power steering), narrowly avoided hitting the wall on the other side, got it restarted but off to the garage tomorrow if I can get it home.  Another big bill inbound no doubt  :( :(

Not nice at all! I hope the adrenaline has settled down. Glad you were able to walk away Lawrence, the possible consequences of losing brakes and steering at any time don't bare thinking about! (I've had major brake fade experience when I used to drive HGV tankers many years ago). Cars are easily fixed all be it costly, sadly people don't fix so easily.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Fratton on June 28, 2012, 09:23:03 AM
Quote from: Lawrence on June 28, 2012, 08:43:08 AM
Car died approaching a roundabout this morning (no brakes no power steering), narrowly avoided hitting the wall on the other side, got it restarted but off to the garage tomorrow if I can get it home.  Another big bill inbound no doubt  :( :(

I'm glad you're ok that's my biggest fear with a car I currently drive a Renault espace with power assisted braking and steering and should it do the same it has an automatic handbrake so can't yank that on in an emergency,,,, 

Hope it doesn't cost you too much,,,,,
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 28, 2012, 09:46:25 AM
Cripes, Lawrence. :o
Coming straight after your daughter's car needing repairs, the Bank of Mum & Dad is taking a hammering.
Hope you're OK after the immediate adrenaline rush :wave:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MinZaPint on June 28, 2012, 11:20:45 AM
Quote from: Lawrence on June 28, 2012, 08:43:08 AM
Car died approaching a roundabout this morning (no brakes no power steering), narrowly avoided hitting the wall on the other side, got it restarted but off to the garage tomorrow if I can get it home.  Another big bill inbound no doubt  :( :(

Pleased to hear you're Ok, I had a similar problem with a Ford Mondeo, local dealer totally useless and never did get to the bottom of it, would be interested to hear how you get on. Best of luck.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on June 28, 2012, 11:46:24 AM
Been looking on the Volvo forums, could be a number of things, think I'll get the garage to change the fuel filter first and get them to check for leaks in the lines.
Can't wait to get home for a fresh pair of underpants though, didn't know adrenalin was that colour and smelled so bad  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on June 28, 2012, 11:52:19 AM
Quote from: Lawrence on June 28, 2012, 11:46:24 AM
and get them to check for leaks in the lines.
Have you been near Wales recently?

Can't wait to get home for a fresh pair of underpants though, didn't know adrenalin was that colour and smelled so bad  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Sell some of that adrenalin to Upnick, he has just built a cattle loading dock - very authentic weathering  :evil:  :smiley-laughing:

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on June 28, 2012, 12:21:14 PM
Thank goodness it didn't happen at high speed and on a busy motorway it could have been a lot worse, it may cost you a fair bit to repair but I think someone up there loves you  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 28, 2012, 12:55:51 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on June 28, 2012, 11:46:24 AM

Can't wait to get home for a fresh pair of underpants though, didn't know adrenalin was that colour and smelled so bad  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

They tell me it runs in your genes :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dock Shunter on June 28, 2012, 01:30:00 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on June 28, 2012, 12:55:51 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on June 28, 2012, 11:46:24 AM

Can't wait to get home for a fresh pair of underpants though, didn't know adrenalin was that colour and smelled so bad  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

They tell me it runs in your genes :smiley-laughing:

:smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :thumbsup:..................

Glad you are ok Lawrence............
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Fratton on June 28, 2012, 07:09:38 PM
Grrrrrr my iPhone not loading has just lost me an NGS shark brake van at the last minute and I was prepared to go higher thqn it went for,,,,,,,,  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on June 28, 2012, 07:31:36 PM
Car in garage, underpants changed, half a bottle of shiraz in me, away to watch the footie now, actually this should be in the happy thread.

Now don't go messing about tonight you lot I've had a bad day and I want you all to behave whilst I go and enjoy watching Germany and Italy kick lumps out of each other
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on June 28, 2012, 07:37:38 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on June 28, 2012, 07:31:36 PM
Car in garage, underpants changed, half a bottle of shiraz in me, away to watch the footie now, actually this should be in the happy thread.

Now don't go messing about tonight you lot I've had a bad day and I want you all to behave whilst I go and enjoy watching Germany and Italy kick lumps out of each other

Glad your bad day has ended.

Germany vs Italy? In other words, the precision of the Desiro vs the flair of the Pendolino
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on June 28, 2012, 08:35:23 PM
 Flair is looking good right now  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on June 30, 2012, 09:34:24 AM
Quote from: jonclox on June 25, 2012, 07:27:52 PM
Quote from: Joe 90 on June 25, 2012, 05:23:35 PM
Hi Jonclox

I know exactly how you feel.
Up until last year I had been looking after my ailing father who had a couple of things wrong with him. Once we got past the GPs and to a consultant who happened to be, in my opinion, a proper doctor only then did things start to happen as they should do.
Getting past the GPs was our problem who, again in my own opinion, do not have a clue as to what they are doing. Even when you tell them what the problem is they just ignore you, saying it can't be that until days/weeks later they eventually find out it is that. By which time the problem has compounded.

Hi Joe 90
We have the reverse situation here  ::) My GP is and always has been most helpful but the consultant who he has had to send me to see is just going ahead with his plans without letting me know a thing.
I may as well be just a number on a piece of paper and not a human being to be informed or consulted. He could sort my prostrate out by tried and tested means but has decided to try me out on a new treatment course and sent me to see his anaesthetist today to see if I could take a general anaesthetic....of course nobody at the hospital knew about it or my apointment etc etc etc  >:( at the end of my visit I was told by the anaestetist that the next I will hear..quite soon probably... is what date the ops. going to be on.
Great stuff ::)
Phone call yesterday (Friday)....Be at the hospital Monday at 10.00 for further assessment and tests.......no details but just be there ::) ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 30, 2012, 02:36:32 PM
Best wishes for that, Jonclox. Let us know how you get on, please :wave:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Joe 90 on June 30, 2012, 02:40:41 PM
Hear hear!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on June 30, 2012, 08:49:43 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on June 30, 2012, 02:36:32 PM
Best wishes for that, Jonclox. Let us know how you get on, please :wave:
Cheers,
Will let you know when and if I ever stop shaking with fear
( 'gulp' anybody got any sedatives   'gulp' ?)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 30, 2012, 09:00:36 PM
I understand from your post that Monday will consist of further assessments and tests.
I'm sure they wouldn't go further than that without advising you.
It is quite natural to be afraid of the unknown 'but screw your courage to the sticking place and you'll not fail' (as a certain lady in a certain Scottish play once said)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on June 30, 2012, 10:01:05 PM
Good Luck jonclox you will be OK now that things are starting to happen, hope to hear good news Tuesday  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on July 01, 2012, 03:31:08 AM
All the best for Monday jonclox. Hope you get good news.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on July 01, 2012, 06:46:50 AM
Quote from: Mustermark on July 01, 2012, 03:31:08 AM
All the best for Monday jonclox. Hope you get good news.

I second that!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on July 01, 2012, 09:07:00 AM
 :-[ Thanks everybody  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dock Shunter on July 01, 2012, 11:23:03 AM
Will be thinking about you Jon..... :thumbsup:
Stay Positive...(It's half the battle).Look forward to hearing good news on Tuesday.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on July 02, 2012, 06:42:13 PM
 >:(  Sheeeesh.
After a test or 2 today they decided that I need an op.  :o but can oly take 'local anasthetic' and follow the op. in real time (about an hour)
3 options given to me
1 Go on a 'trials' list and have either the old carving knife treatment or
2  the up to date  laser treatment
I can say which of the two I prefer but being a trial thingie may end up with the other one  ???

3 I can definatly say 'I want the knife or laser' and they will proceed with my choice.

Sooooooooo bassicaly 2 choices..........trial or straight NHS
I must decide then go back in two weeks time and tell them my decision  ::)
Straight NHS waiting time 4--6 months :o
Trial waiting time..3---4 weeks.
Cant really see that theres any choice ::)
Answers in two weeks
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on July 09, 2012, 05:01:15 PM
My Canon LBP 5050 laser printer now shows I will soon be ready for a replacement black toner,but it won't be getting one,the printer will be taken to the tip.
It came with a set of toner cartridges which needed replacing after less than 250 pages,cost around £200 for the four.
The total pages from both sets of toner is 182 B&W and 1374 Colour,nowhere near the claimed capacity,I can only assume that all the extremely frustrating recalibrating and out of register colour correction it does has used a good amount of toner.

Anyway I should receive a new Samsung laser printer on Wednesday so I'll see how that fares,cost less than two toner refills for the Canon,so hopefully there'll be a lot less swearing caused by the waiting for the Canon printer to stop recalibrating after only one print.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on July 09, 2012, 05:55:45 PM
Which Samsung laser have you ordered? I have a mono Samsung laser which is great for business type stuff although I am a slightly disappointed with the toner life (even on economy).

I've been considering a colour laser for some time - the size and weight have put me off.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on July 09, 2012, 09:08:46 PM
Hi Pendy,

I've bought a Samsung CLP 325,just the normal USB one,not the wireless version,got it from Argos online.

I've had Canon ink jet printers and really like them,but this Canon laser printer has really got on my nerves,I'd print the first sheet and if I didn't send the next image for printing straight away I had to sit waiting for three minutes while it went through it's self checking routines,why it recalibrates after its printed and not before is a mystery to me.

Doing any printing of card stock through the manual feed slot and it takes ages before it accepts the next sheet and if I feed a sheet in before it's ready it throws a hissy fit and tells me that there is a paper jam even though there's no paper in it,then it goes through its self checking routine again.

All in all a really frustrating printer to use,plus it's not really Mac friendly either,I have to go over to the dark side (Windows 7) to get it to print properly.

Allan



Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on July 09, 2012, 09:51:35 PM
Thanks - will be interested to see how you get on with it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on July 10, 2012, 01:34:27 AM
Should be in the 'Turned out alright' thread really but is prompted by the previous posts...

My old HP inkjet failed me.  It stopped loading paper.  After I kicked it hard, several times, it stopped even trying to load paper.  Ooh but it felt good.

Just bought myself an Epson Workplace 545 inkjet.  Wireless, borderless, 7ppm colour and 5760 x 1440 dpi.  All for under 90 quid from the Apple shop.

Bloomin' marvellous.

And learned how to sign 'Thank you' in the process.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on July 10, 2012, 08:37:18 PM
One thing to watch is many printers lie about when they need new toner.

My Dell has been informing me it wants new toner for about 2 months now despite regular use. When it runs out I'll change it. And it won't be Dell toner either 8)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on July 10, 2012, 09:21:44 PM
Found this site today,I didn't know toner cartridges could be refilled.
http://www.zinetic.co.uk/Default.aspx (http://www.zinetic.co.uk/Default.aspx)

Too late for me because I've already ordered a new Samsung printer,might give it a try when I next need new toner though.
Anyway I'll be glad to see my Canon printer in the skip at the recycling centre,I really am brassed off with it.
I've emailed Canon support just to see what reply I get about the short toner life.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on July 11, 2012, 06:05:05 AM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on July 10, 2012, 08:37:18 PM
One thing to watch is many printers lie about when they need new toner.

My Dell has been informing me it wants new toner for about 2 months now despite regular use. When it runs out I'll change it. And it won't be Dell toner either 8)

The do lie, some more than others. My Samsung Mono is more honest that some - when the light starts flashing, I generally need to start shaking the cartridge within a couple of days to extract more life.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EddieA on July 11, 2012, 01:24:28 PM
Another thing to watch out for is that sometimes the cartridges supplied with a new printer are 'starters' and may not actually contain the same amount of ink as a full capacity replacement.

Also I have an Espon S20 printer which can take either T089x series cartridges or T071x series. The former are cheaper, but contain a lot less ink than the latter therefore actually work out more expensive! (thanks to a helpful member of staff at my local 'Staples' who pointed this out to me).

In any case I seem to remember reading that printers are sold at either cost price or even a loss and the manufacturers make their profit on ink?   
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on July 11, 2012, 01:42:52 PM
A lot of printers are sold that way yes. Indeed in the business space some companies *give away* printers with toner

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 11, 2012, 01:53:27 PM
Quote from: EddieA on July 11, 2012, 01:24:28 PM
Another thing to watch out for is that sometimes the cartridges supplied with a new printer are 'starters' and may not actually contain the same amount of ink as a full capacity replacement.

In any case I seem to remember reading that printers are sold at either cost price or even a loss and the manufacturers make their profit on ink?   

Especially true of printers for photos >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EddieA on July 11, 2012, 07:47:25 PM

[/quote]

Especially true of printers for photos >:(
[/quote]

A few years ago a certain printer company were ('allegedly') shifting new printers in bulk. The reason:- a new printer with ink cartridges was cheaper than buying the replacements. Folks cottoned on to this and were binning their printer when the cartridges were empty and buying another new one... :smiley-laughing:

If you are ever bored;-  check out how much ink is in the cartridges you buy and multiply this up, say to the capacity of a standard wine bottle and then work out the comparative cost. Makes wine, or petrol!, look cheap    :'(



   
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on July 11, 2012, 08:23:52 PM
Someone once calculated that printer ink was more expensive per ml than the most expensive vintage champagne.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 11, 2012, 09:48:19 PM
Quote from: Zwilnik on July 11, 2012, 08:23:52 PM
Someone once calculated that printer ink was more expensive per ml than the most expensive vintage champagne.

Pint of magenta, anyone :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on July 11, 2012, 09:55:07 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 11, 2012, 09:48:19 PM
Quote from: Zwilnik on July 11, 2012, 08:23:52 PM
Someone once calculated that printer ink was more expensive per ml than the most expensive vintage champagne.

Pint of magenta, anyone :beers:

Green monster 8)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on July 12, 2012, 10:21:34 AM
Well we had an amazing amount of rain and hail last night in Surrey.  The road outside of my house flooded again, then entered the neighbours house and the Sub Station, and then a river appeared on my back garden.  :(   I was at work and I hadn't finished the defences.  The garden is covered in mud and leaves, and flower beds have disappeared.  The water also came through the floor of my workshop and has damaged some expensive tools.  Luckily the house is 1 ft higher than the garden, so nothing came in.

I've written another letter to Croydon Council, so let's see what happens.  Apparently it's OK to let a road 'pond' for an hour. ::)  All they need to do is to put more drains on the surrounding roads to stop the streams of water coming down them (steep hills) and causing the volume of water to be greater than the drains on my road can cope with.  Simples!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on July 12, 2012, 11:26:00 AM
Sorry to hear about your lousy weather Chris but also pleased it never made its way into your house, sounds like the council need to do something to fix that problem.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dock Shunter on July 12, 2012, 11:27:02 AM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on July 11, 2012, 09:55:07 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 11, 2012, 09:48:19 PM
Quote from: Zwilnik on July 11, 2012, 08:23:52 PM
Someone once calculated that printer ink was more expensive per ml than the most expensive vintage champagne.

Pint of magenta, anyone :beers:

Green monster 8)

Mines a Purple Nasty......... :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on July 12, 2012, 12:13:14 PM
Quote from: Dock Shunter on July 12, 2012, 11:27:02 AM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on July 11, 2012, 09:55:07 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 11, 2012, 09:48:19 PM
Quote from: Zwilnik on July 11, 2012, 08:23:52 PM
Someone once calculated that printer ink was more expensive per ml than the most expensive vintage champagne.

Pint of magenta, anyone :beers:

Green monster 8)

Mines a Purple Nasty......... :beers:

It makes the real Irish Black Stuff sound positively cheap!  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on July 12, 2012, 12:43:22 PM
What winds me up is the way that football clubs are keep changing their strips for marketing reasons and sometimes the strip bears only a passing resemblance to the traditional design of the club.

I don't mind minor changes but when my club has changed it strip so that it now looks that that of another premier league team - then I get angry.

Another example is Cardiff City changing their strip from blue to red and their nickname to go along with it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Greybeema on July 12, 2012, 01:06:29 PM
Quote from: Pendy on July 12, 2012, 12:43:22 PM
What winds me up is the way that football clubs are keep changing their strips for marketing reasons and sometimes the strip bears only a passing resemblance to the traditional design of the club.

I don't mind minor changes but when my club has changed it strip so that it now looks that that of another premier league team - then I get angry.

Another example is Cardiff City changing their strip from blue to red and their nickname to go along with it.

The thing is that here in Dublin the New Leinster Rugby shirts mark you out as a "New" fan or one who has jumped on the European Championship band wagon.  You get more kudos by wearing your old shirt (the more seasons back the better)...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on July 12, 2012, 01:12:23 PM
Quote from: Pendy on July 12, 2012, 12:43:22 PM
What winds me up is the way that football clubs are keep changing their strips for marketing reasons and sometimes the strip bears only a passing resemblance to the traditional design of the club.

I don't mind minor changes but when my club has changed it strip so that it now looks that that of another premier league team - then I get angry.

Another example is Cardiff City changing their strip from blue to red and their nickname to go along with it.

You can see many of them here http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/ (http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/) they even have a Room 101 with all the worst strips in it  :smiley-laughing: http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Articles/Room_101.html (http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Articles/Room_101.html)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Greybeema on July 12, 2012, 01:24:38 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 12, 2012, 10:21:34 AM
I've written another letter to Croydon Council, so let's see what happens.  Apparently it's OK to let a road 'pond' for an hour. ::)  All they need to do is to put more drains on the surrounding roads to stop the streams of water coming down them (steep hills) and causing the volume of water to be greater than the drains on my road can cope with.  Simples!

Last year, in Dublin, Dundrum Shopping Centre was badly flooded during torrential rain, with water reaching the height of six feet on some of the ground floor entry doors - needless to say there was terrible damage to some of the basement shops resulting in many having to totally refurbish and re-stock.

Dundrum Shopping Centre was built in the bottom of a valley.  The had to re-route a river and a stream.  During the heavy rain that caused the flooding the river and stream decided that their priveous route were in fact better than the new route, memory took its course and the river now flowed through the Sshopping Centre.  To add insult to injury - the local Council decided to pump the water out of the shopping centre, tanker it up to a local park to dispurse the water across the Park.

Yes you have guessed it right - the water poured off the park which was higher than the Shopping Centre and into the local river - the very one that had decided that it liked shopping in Dunrdum Shopping Centre.  What is even more amazing was that the Council carried on with the operation for the best part of 12 hours wondering why the water did not diminish..

Chris,  I hope you stay dry and that there was not too much damage.  My point is that it is not just in Croydon that stating the bleedin obvious doesn't really work...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on July 12, 2012, 02:29:52 PM
Yikes!  I sure hope that our council doesn't have the same idea about pumping the water!!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pete Mc on July 12, 2012, 05:58:39 PM
My sympathy for your situation Chris.With all the rain we too have had in South Yorkshire,our thoughts returned to 2007 when we had the worst floods in 55 years,I wasn't flooded out,although I was told we were very close to being flooded out.Just one street away in fact.
I have never witnessed anything so devastating in my whole life.At the time,my plumbing,heating and gas business was doing great and due to flood damage,I obtained more work than I could cope with,but to see the damage water and the filth it contains does to property is absolutely heartbreaking.I frequently saw normally strong men weeping,not to mention their wives,hate to see histerical women.These places are their homes,the biggest purchases they'll ever make,ruined by water,very dirty water that leaves inches deep layers of mud on everthing that it touches.I hope I never see this ever again.
So my sympathies for everyone caught out by this nightmare.No matter how people prepare,its unstoppable unfortunately.

Pete
:Class37: :NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on July 12, 2012, 07:09:20 PM
Thanks Pete.  Mine certainly wasn't anywhere near how bad as you've described thankfully.  It must be devastating.  It just angers me that I've been onto the council about it for a few years, and nothing has been done.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on July 12, 2012, 07:59:44 PM
Whack in a ruddy huge bill for the damage to the garden, workshop and tools to the council, explain to them that it is their own fault as you have contacted them numerous times about it
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EddieA on July 13, 2012, 01:07:41 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on July 11, 2012, 09:55:07 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 11, 2012, 09:48:19 PM
Quote from: Zwilnik on July 11, 2012, 08:23:52 PM
Someone once calculated that printer ink was more expensive per ml than the most expensive vintage champagne.

Pint of magenta, anyone :beers:

Green monster 8)

Ahh! Absinthe... (makes the heart grow fonder). OK I've found my coat!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 13, 2012, 02:03:48 PM
Quote from: EddieA on July 13, 2012, 01:07:41 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on July 11, 2012, 09:55:07 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 11, 2012, 09:48:19 PM
Quote from: Zwilnik on July 11, 2012, 08:23:52 PM
Someone once calculated that printer ink was more expensive per ml than the most expensive vintage champagne.

Pint of magenta, anyone :beers:

Green monster 8)

Ahh! Absinthe... (makes the heart grow fonder). OK I've found my coat!!!

:smiley-laughing: Anyone know a good dentist for Eddie? ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on July 13, 2012, 02:13:44 PM
A dentist.. how about...

Little Shop of Horrors - Dentist Song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOtMizMQ6oM#)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: K-N-Gauge on July 13, 2012, 02:19:09 PM
good one!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on July 17, 2012, 03:01:21 PM
Quote from: jonclox on July 02, 2012, 06:42:13 PM
>:(  Sheeeesh.
After a test or 2 today they decided that I need an op.  :o but can oly take 'local anasthetic' and follow the op. in real time (about an hour)
3 options given to me
1 Go on a 'trials' list and have either the old carving knife treatment or
2  the up to date  laser treatment
I can say which of the two I prefer but being a trial thingie may end up with the other one  ???

3 I can definatly say 'I want the knife or laser' and they will proceed with my choice.

Sooooooooo bassicaly 2 choices..........trial or straight NHS
I must decide then go back in two weeks time and tell them my decision  ::)
Straight NHS waiting time 4--6 months :o
Trial waiting time..3---4 weeks.
Cant really see that theres any choice ::)
Answers in two weeks
sheeeeeeeeesh  >:( close on 3 hours late seeing nurse...45+ mins form filling.
result... on the trial BUT with the blunt old carving knife not the moden laser :(
Now ......wait for appointment for final assesment  (3-4) weeks then op within 2 weeks of that
I is not amused or happy
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on July 17, 2012, 08:37:30 PM
Reported a blatantly obvious shill bidder to ebay yesterday. They say they have investigated and "After further investigation on your report, I can confirm that I have taken appropriate action in accordance with our policies". So, they've been banned or at least suspended I think? Not a chance! They're still up and running selling and no doubt will be bidding on their own items using an identity which had a zero rating up until the sellers auctions ended yesterday, were paid for, sent, delivered and feedback posted from the BUYER within 4 minutes of the auction ending. I won't rest on this one yet though, they will be reported at EVERY opportunity. I won't name names but have a 'look' at this item (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320942866300) which has of course been relisted the same day as the auction finished.

Edit: I should just add that I don't want and never did want the item above, it was purely used as an example. There were 6 auctions out of 8 in total from this seller which ended fraudulently yesterday. I would strongly recommend not buying from him/her.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: K-N-Gauge on July 17, 2012, 08:51:14 PM
I never doubt on eBay half the stuff you bid for one of the other bidders is the seller, cause when in sell the same item it never gets near that amount :p lol
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on July 17, 2012, 09:10:29 PM
Double irony on their user name then!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on July 17, 2012, 09:49:52 PM
I agree but I managed to refrain myself from saying that in my email to ebay. I have now written a second email to them in easy to read baby language words of 1 syllable so we'll see if it does any good. Either way that seller will wish he had never done it. I was given a second chance offer by the seller as the shill bidder won the item by accident. I was happy to buy the item as the third and fourth bidders were genuine. I'll be even happier once I receive the item. And if it's sent without using recorded delivery it may not get here but I didn't say that did I? And I do like the internet where you can find out just about anybody's address, phone number etc from just a couple of details  ;)

Edit: It seems someone else with a 0 feedback has bid on all his CDs, I wonder who that could be? I also wonder if other bids will come along before the end, I'm sure it will be quite obvious if they do at those prices  :thumbsup:

Wednesday edit: The guy must be a simpleton. Once again he is bidding on his own items. The good thing is he won't win them unless he bids over £20 for each CD and I also have a funny feeling that the newly registered 'winning' bidder won't be paying for them either  :evil:
Ebay have done absolutely nothing about him so it's good to see that 'someone' else is going to at least mess him around as much as they can  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on July 22, 2012, 09:03:47 PM
When my Canon LBP 5050 printer started running out of toner I gave it away rather than buy anymore toner for it,it was cheaper to buy a new Samsung printer.
I messaged Canon support about the issue of poor performance and on the 10 July had a reply that I would get an answer in 4-5 days.

12 days later and no reply,got on Canons support sight and explained that I had not received a reply,put it as low priority and couldn't get any further until I paid £18.00 for an expert to answer,if I'd gone for a priority answer it would have been £35.00.

What a load of planks.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 26, 2012, 09:42:04 PM
Not so much angry as bricking it. Dentist tomorrow morning, and even though I go every 6 months he always finds a way of relieving me of modelling money >:(

Wouldn't be so bad, but last time I had to have a wisdom tooth put in ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on July 26, 2012, 10:05:06 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 26, 2012, 09:42:04 PM
Wouldn't be so bad, but last time I had to have a wisdom tooth put in ::)

But did it help any???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on July 26, 2012, 10:28:52 PM
Quote from: Mustermark on July 26, 2012, 10:05:06 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 26, 2012, 09:42:04 PM
Wouldn't be so bad, but last time I had to have a wisdom tooth put in ::)

But did it help any???

I don't believe you feel the need to ask!!!!!!!   :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dock Shunter on July 26, 2012, 10:57:55 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 26, 2012, 09:42:04 PM

Wouldn't be so bad, but last time I had to have a wisdom tooth put in ::)

:smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on July 26, 2012, 10:59:07 PM
Dentists are no different than Banks, Supermarkets and Oil Companies they love dipping into your wallet.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: K-N-Gauge on July 26, 2012, 11:31:56 PM
Quote from: oldrailbug on July 26, 2012, 10:59:07 PM
Dentists are no different than Banks, Supermarkets and Oil Companies they love dipping into your wallet.
True true :p
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on July 26, 2012, 11:59:51 PM
If one of your teeth falls out, you put it under your pillow for a cash reward from the Tooth Fairy. Now, just think, why do dentists remove so many teeth? Their pillowcases must be stuffed with money, made from putting your removed teeth under their pillows!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on July 27, 2012, 12:54:03 AM
Quote from: Kipper on July 26, 2012, 11:59:51 PM
If one of your teeth falls out, you put it under your pillow for a cash reward from the Tooth Fairy. Now, just think, why do dentists remove so many teeth? Their pillowcases must be stuffed with money, made from putting your removed teeth under their pillows!

:smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on July 27, 2012, 09:16:43 AM
Good start to the morning  Power cut, major water leak down the road-not even enough pressure to fill the kettle. Whats next they always come im threes
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 27, 2012, 05:00:10 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on July 26, 2012, 10:28:52 PM

I don't believe you feel the need to ask!!!!!!!   :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:

Just as well I'm not easily hurt :'(
Well - it cost me £60 this morning and will cost another £200 in 4 weeks time.
That's more than a Blue Pullman :o

Quote from: Oldman on July 27, 2012, 09:16:43 AM
Good start to the morning  Power cut, major water leak down the road-not even enough pressure to fill the kettle. Whats next they always come im threes

The Olympics :evil:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dock Shunter on July 27, 2012, 06:03:41 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 27, 2012, 05:00:10 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on July 26, 2012, 10:28:52 PM



That's more than a Blue Pullman :o

Quote from: Oldman on July 27, 2012, 09:16:43 AM


Blue Pullman......thats another name for an angry dentist isn't it....... ;D

.............I'll see meself out shall i......... ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on July 27, 2012, 06:23:51 PM
Quote from: Dock Shunter on July 27, 2012, 06:03:41 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 27, 2012, 05:00:10 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on July 26, 2012, 10:28:52 PM



That's more than a Blue Pullman :o

Quote from: Oldman on July 27, 2012, 09:16:43 AM


Blue Pullman......thats another name for an angry dentist isn't it....... ;D

.............I'll see meself out shall i......... ::)

That will be the one that is short of breath then.  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: kevin141 on July 28, 2012, 07:46:24 PM
I am fed up with sport already how long will the torcher last
kevin141
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on July 29, 2012, 05:32:01 PM
I was fed up with it long before it even started - endless hype on TV and radio for weeks on end, all for a bunch of people running, jumping and throwing things  ::)

As for the torch-relay, well. It passed within about 150 yards of my house, did I rush out to see it? No. Could I give a monkey's? No. Do I feel a sense of patriotic pride in Britain hosting the games? Definitely no! It's sport, it's not important.


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on July 29, 2012, 06:58:24 PM
At least there's MotoGP on BBC 2 later on tonight.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 29, 2012, 07:24:48 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on July 29, 2012, 06:58:24 PM
At least there's MotoGP on BBC 2 later on tonight.

Allan

Laguna Seca generally sorts the men from the boys :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on July 29, 2012, 09:26:42 PM
I am enjoying watching about an hour or two of the Olympics each day and to be honest its about the only sport I really watch.

I used to watch other sport years ago but got sick and tired of watching it, the TV News has 15 minutes of Political Brainwashing plus Murders and 15 minutes of hearing about sportsmen and women being worshiped like Gods.

What beats me is that people bet on everything, the even gave the odds as to who would carry the flag at the Olympic opening.

I do feel sorry for sports people though as the pressure put on them by the idiot media loonys must be overbearing.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on July 31, 2012, 07:28:56 PM
My fellow members of the n gauge forum. Felt complelled to make use of the Angry Thread as I am indeed very angry and upset by the behaviour of a company and I wanted to warn you of there behaviour.

As some may know from my layout thread, I am in the process of moving. I am leaving a house "managed" (and I use the word in its vaugest possible sense) by Andrews Property Services.

Over the last year they have been a source of constant worry and financial burden to me. They are very expensive for agencies fees, they won't let you go on anything longer than a six month contract and charge your £50 each time you renew (for what? In my case a badly printed contract riddled with errors) and they provided me with a house with a long list of faults. Recently they have damaged a fence whilst proping up a for rent sign.

The final straw has been that me new agency (so far, very professional) have just informed me they still need a refernce from Andrews. Inqueries have shown that Andrews have known about this for weeks and not bothered to do anything about it because "they are waiting for a £30 fee". They have now put my new home at risk by there utter incompotence.

I urge you to not get involved with this ridiculous company if you can at all avoid them.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on July 31, 2012, 08:05:56 PM
Oh dear, been there myself a few years back with a Letting Agency near Cambridge which I won't mention  :(

Six month renewals with a fee every time, failed to inform us it was her OWN house she was renting to us, and wouldn't leave us alone. When we moved out she came round and started shouting at us for no reason, so I threw the house keys at her and told her where she could shove her house  ;D After we left she tried to charge us (out of our deposit) over £100 for gardening (?), and £300 for replacement of a kitchen roller-blind she said we "stained" - stain was there when we moved in, and after ringing the blinds company they happily told us she had chosen THE most expensive one they sold, to replace one that cost no more than 30 quid!!

We contacted our local Trading Standards only to be told they knew about her very well and already had a thick file full of complaints, so if we could supply any evidence to add to their file they would soon be acting upon it. Soon after this the gardening charge got reduced to £50 and the blind cost was removed altogether, so she must have been 'paid a visit' I guess  ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on July 31, 2012, 09:23:29 PM
Crikey if Australians had to put up with the things British renters have to contend with there would be a war, the only thing they ask you to do in a lease is pay for the carpets to be cleaned if and when you vacate the property.

I was thinking off returning home one day and if I did I would have to rent, reading things like this and other things and I am rapidly changing my mind.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 31, 2012, 09:41:44 PM
Before I bought my bungalow, I rented a hovel for 2 x 6 month contracts. When I first went to see it, I took photos of everything wrong with it, e mailed them to the letting agency and made them acknowledge receipt. Then I called them out for every little thing that subsequently went wrong, fell off the walls etc.
When I left I got my full deposit returned as there was nothing they could prove was my fault because on the exit inspection I had all the same photos with me ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on July 31, 2012, 10:40:19 PM
Quote from: oldrailbug on July 31, 2012, 09:23:29 PM
Crikey if Australians had to put up with the things British renters have to contend with there would be a war, the only thing they ask you to do in a lease is pay for the carpets to be cleaned if and when you vacate the property.

Same here regarding carpet cleaning usually. These are worst-case scenarios don't forget, we've been in our current rented house for four years without problem, the landlord is a great bloke and we have no bother or spurious charges  :thumbsup:


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on August 02, 2012, 09:06:20 AM
Very annoyed at the Australian Sports Media, they have been carrying on like a load of headless chickens because the Aussie swim team failed to bring home Gold in the Olympics.

The pressure the media and swim team officials put on these kids by virtually telling them that they are unbeatable is disgraceful, when they get beat the media starts the blame game and point the finger at individual swimmers for not pulling their weight.

Every excuse in the book as been made for them not winning gold including lack of sleep and using Faceache and Twitter, not much mention of the swimmers that swam faster and won gold they just want to moan, as for the 16 year old girl that swims like a torpedo they were positive that she was on drugs, pleased she was tested and found to be clean now the media can shut up about that.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on August 09, 2012, 09:03:07 PM
Mobile phone signals . Was working fine on all the networks we normally use this morning. Not even 2G 
now on any since lunchtime.
Taken me 10 mins to post this
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on August 09, 2012, 10:23:13 PM
Quote from: oldrailbug on August 02, 2012, 09:06:20 AM
Very annoyed at the Australian Sports Media, they have been carrying on like a load of headless chickens because the Aussie swim team failed to bring home Gold in the Olympics.

Agree but it will soon be over  :claphappy:
The first night I tried to congratulate the locals as the italians had won a gold in the archery...... All I got was sympathetic comments like... you watched it ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on August 09, 2012, 11:19:48 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on August 09, 2012, 10:23:13 PM
Quote from: oldrailbug on August 02, 2012, 09:06:20 AM
Very annoyed at the Australian Sports Media, they have been carrying on like a load of headless chickens because the Aussie swim team failed to bring home Gold in the Olympics.

Agree but it will soon be over  :claphappy:
The first night I tried to congratulate the locals as the italians had won a gold in the archery...... All I got was sympathetic comments like... you watched it ???

:D Obviously the Italians have more important things to do but watch sport, good luck to them  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on August 10, 2012, 11:30:12 AM
Still got ****mobile phone service.  Basic WAP and using mobile site only       Grrrrrrrrr
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on August 10, 2012, 11:54:24 AM
I had an accident at work last night when drilling some metal.  It was too far to go and get my DeWalt drill bits, so I used the cheap Titan ones that we have in the workshop.  The drill bit snapped as I was pushing down on the drill, and I went forwards at the same time, resulting in a broken 5.5mm drill bit going into my thumb, just below the nail. :doh:  I had to jog down to the First Aid room with my arm in the air and blood trickling down my arm!!!  Anyway, I was determined not to go to hospital and the bandage I found seemed to stop the blood.  This morning I aired it, but there was a very slow trickle of blood.  Off to work soon, and I've just superglued it, which has stopped it bleeding......for now!  My wife can't look at it! ;D

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 10, 2012, 12:08:28 PM
Sorry to hear that - bet it stings like a stingy thing that's been stung :confused2:
What is it about the Admin side and hand tools ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Claude Dreyfus on August 10, 2012, 12:28:48 PM
That has got to hurt!

Going back to the Olympics, it has been sad to see such ingratious comments coming from France in particular. So you have not won the number of medals you expect in cycling...simple remedy for next time...try harder!

...and stop making out Britain has such a big rivalry with France in the Olympics...we don't. For us, it is Australia - as with the cricket. France is football, and to a lesser extent Rugby. The success against Australia has been tempered a little bit by some sniping from down-under, particularly over funding. Perhaps the Australian media should accept that this has just not been their year, and look forward to improving matters for 2016.

Team GB have had a cracking Olympics, but we should cast our memories back to the disaster that was Atlanta 1996. Both Beijing and London successes are the direct result of 1996, and the decision that we should never be in that position again.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on August 10, 2012, 03:59:26 PM
I really don't understand how synchronised swimming can be called a sport.It'll be maypole dancing and smack a rat in a drain pipe next

Allan.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on August 10, 2012, 04:03:03 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on August 10, 2012, 03:59:26 PM
I really don't understand how synchronised swimming can be called a sport.It'll be maypole dancing and smack a rat in a drain pipe next

Allan.

I agree, we had them at the local pool and we used to call them "The Sinking Cygnets"  :smiley-laughing:

John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on August 10, 2012, 04:08:56 PM
I don't like this trend of making verbs out of nouns - for example 'Britain might medal in this event'
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on August 10, 2012, 04:40:26 PM
Not as bad as "the Carmarthen train has been replatformed"

Someone at Cardiff needs to be told that's not a word.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 10, 2012, 08:50:30 PM
You're quite right, EP.
'That's' is actually a truncation of 2 words - that is :-X
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on August 11, 2012, 05:09:15 PM
There is a model shop in Newark called Access Models.

I went in today for a length of Flexi track £3.50,offered my debit card and was told that anything under £5.00 had to be cash.I explained that it was a debit card and not a credit card and as far as I'm aware there is no charge to use it.
I'd sooner buy off the internet and pay the postage rather than give that shop anymore money.

It's not surprising that people would rather buy on the internet,I'm now a customer that Access Models has lost for good because I'll never buy anything there again.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Matthew-peter on August 11, 2012, 05:59:37 PM
Well i went for that job earlier this week and the company had not advertised it correctly, they failed to mention it was a door to door company  :veryangry: so I flat out refused, I dont believe in people being pestered at their home for money. If they wanted the items they would go out and buy them at the shops.

Rant over
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on August 11, 2012, 06:17:16 PM
I don't blame you Matt and I am sorry you have been misled that way  :thumbsdown: after getting your hopes up.


John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Matthew-peter on August 11, 2012, 06:19:58 PM
Cheers John, the good thing is I am starting a transport management course in 2 weeks time, just about all signed up for it and its a year long course and equals a level 3 NVQ so hopefully will help in the road i want to take career wise.  ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pete Mc on August 11, 2012, 08:37:48 PM
Blimey,I currently have a NVQ level 2 in road passenger transport which is a requirement at the company I work for.Later this year,after the latest phase of recruitment/training ends,I am pencilled in for commencement of NVQ level 3,also in road passenger transport.This will allow me to apply for a superviser/depot inspectors post should one become available in the future.
This course,I am told is at vocational level and is done in my own time,at no cost to me outside normal working hours and should take approximately two months to complete.This may mean going into work early to do fleet output allocations,radio operation,duty swaps,overtime allocation and other stuff relating to the job I may or may not decide to apply for.
It would also allow me to take on the heady post of train manager on any one of our,or other TOC's,if I'm allowed to leave for.
A year seems a long time to do this course.
How many hours per week studying etc does that mean you have to do?

Pete
:Class37: :NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on August 11, 2012, 08:47:35 PM
Hi Pete,

If Matt does not have any NVQ's in this field he will have to do levels 1 and 2 before starting level 3.

A year is what the people who are running the course will say, but there should be no reason why anyone could not complete the course early as long as they can do the work required.

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Matthew-peter on August 11, 2012, 08:52:06 PM
As above really,  they say it takes about a year but if your willing to put the effort into it you can finish after about 8 months, it is all 3 levels up to level 3 so i am going to put my heart and soul into it and try as hard as possible to get high grades.

It is all done online with the help of tutors via email and  phone so I should get as much help as anyone, hopefully.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Donkey on August 11, 2012, 10:08:13 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on August 10, 2012, 03:59:26 PM
I really don't understand how synchronised swimming can be called a sport.It'll be maypole dancing and smack a rat in a drain pipe next

Allan.
Totally agree Allan, though my beloved thinks it's great  ::)

Marty
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on August 12, 2012, 11:29:17 AM
The security questions where you have to enter what is displayed on the screen drive me nuts. Often the letters/numbers are really hard to distinguish and listening to them is not a good experience. Often I'm having to refresh them several times to get something that I am comfortable about entering.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 12, 2012, 11:33:59 AM
I agree entirely. They are a right pain. They are supposed to stop spammers that use software to log into sites. However it seems to work with humans as well. Surely they don't need to make them so difficult to read?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on August 12, 2012, 12:22:35 PM
Quote from: Malc on August 12, 2012, 11:33:59 AM
I agree entirely. They are a right pain. They are supposed to stop spammers that use software to log into sites. However it seems to work with humans as well. Surely they don't need to make them so difficult to read?

You'd be surprised how good the software is these days. Also btw one other reason they are hard to read is that they mix in bits of text from book digitisation projects where the computer couldn't cope. All those annoying little tests are also helping digitise all sorts of literature ..

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on August 12, 2012, 02:59:22 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on August 10, 2012, 03:59:26 PM
I really don't understand how synchronised swimming can be called a sport.It'll be maypole dancing and smack a rat in a drain pipe next

Allan.

This is probably a bit more fun to watch  :smiley-laughing:

Senior Olympic Synchronized Swimming (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eR11SE0RA0#)


cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on August 12, 2012, 03:52:50 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on August 12, 2012, 02:59:22 PM

This is probably a bit more fun to watch  :smiley-laughing:

Senior Olympic Synchronized Swimming (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eR11SE0RA0#)


cheers John.

:help:  :goggleeyes:  NO I amNOT . I`m behind the camera for once  :doh:
Ooops I mean it nothin to do with me
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on August 12, 2012, 05:17:31 PM
Are you sure this was not taken at your birthday celebrations  :hmmm:  :P  :claphappy: :whiteflag:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on August 21, 2012, 12:29:20 PM
Quote from: Tank on August 15, 2012, 09:43:07 PM
Happy today as I bought CorelDraw X5 (graphics software), and Microsoft Office Professional Plus (£8.95 for the latter, and legal).   :)

I'm so angry....the 'genuine' CD I bought of CorelDraw X5 is a counterfeit. :veryangry2:  I've contacted the seller and I'll see what he will do.  Either way, it's going back, and eBay and Corel will know about it.  What a waste of time. :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on August 21, 2012, 12:34:48 PM
Hi Tank,

What are the advantages if any of Corel Draw over Photoshop ?

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on August 21, 2012, 12:43:28 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on August 21, 2012, 12:34:48 PM
Hi Tank,

What are the advantages if any of Corel Draw over Photoshop ?

Allan

I think CorelDraw X5 is better at drawing Pirates  >:D 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on August 21, 2012, 01:16:15 PM
Postboxes are being stolen in East Hants/West Sussex. I went to a box and all that was left was a few bricks. The thieves are taking virtually the whole box, including all of the Post Office bits.

There are also two nasty scams going on. One is where a toy baby in a cot is being left by the side of the road, drivers stop to see if it is real and then they are dragged off and assaulted.

The other is that eggs are thrown at car windows. As drivers typically use their windscreen washers, their windscreens become covered in cloudy eggy goo. When they pull off the road to clean the windscreen - there are people waiting for them . . .

This sort of stuff just sickens me.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: kaiwhara on August 23, 2012, 10:31:35 AM
Any owners of an E Type Jag here?

Doesn't matter anyway, as none of you are in New Zealand - just as well, considering I came very close to writing one off at Morningside Drive level crossing in Auckland which was stopped on the Up Main behind another one stopped on the Down (I know!!!) waiting for the New North Road Traffic Lights. Despite only travelling at 30MPH your speak, on a 4 car SA set plus a DC locomotive, still stopped passed where they were before they panicked and shunted forward into the car in front!

As if that wasn't bad enough, coming back from Swanson, some clown decided to walk out in front of me at Woodward Road, Mt Albert, despite me being in plain sight, having blasted the horn and headlights on high beam! Worst of all, he was looking at me the whole time!  :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

Whats wrong with West Auckland FFS!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on August 23, 2012, 06:17:17 PM
So its not just the Uk where the idiots can't recognise a level crossing eh ?.

The Italians also like to queue over crossings, I obviously annoyed a Local as I didn't want to drive onto the level crossing at Lucca, there is about 20 metres between the gates but then the line speed is probably only 50km so I guess they think they have time to bail out if they see a train !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: moogle on August 23, 2012, 07:56:30 PM
Quote from: Pengy on August 21, 2012, 01:16:15 PM
The other is that eggs are thrown at car windows. As drivers typically use their windscreen washers, their windscreens become covered in cloudy eggy goo. When they pull off the road to clean the windscreen - there are people waiting for them . . .

No one would ever try that where I grew up. (Gravesend, Kent)
If they did the car would stop, reverse and then the driver would get out and beat the c@*p out of them!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on August 23, 2012, 09:34:26 PM
 >:( >:( >:( >:(
Have had a text message from the employers saying job may not start until mid Sept now, and could only last till xmas.

NOT A HAPPY BUNNY.     
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on August 23, 2012, 09:49:00 PM
Not the best news Mike, but when you do get a start that is the time to show them you are indispensable and they can't do without you  :thumbsup:

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Donkey on August 23, 2012, 10:00:03 PM
Mid September is only 2/3 weeks away and they have said it could only last until December. That means it could last longer. Lets have you back on the Happy Thread Mike. Fingers crossed for you mate  :thumbsup:

Marty
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: moogle on August 23, 2012, 10:07:22 PM
 :hmmm: if it was advertised as permanent I'd be cautious as they've now said otherwise.
If it wasn't, then don't be and hope it lasts past then.
After all, its easier to get work when you're in work, for some strange reason!
We've all got our fingers crossed for you mate.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on August 23, 2012, 10:18:22 PM
Quote from: Oldman on August 23, 2012, 09:34:26 PM
>:( >:( >:( >:(
Have had a text message from the employers saying job may not start until mid Sept now, and could only last till xmas.

NOT A HAPPY BUNNY.     

And you can carry on looking while you've got it and before so its still gotta be a win. Just impress them with your genius and get made permanent   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on August 27, 2012, 07:55:45 PM
Approaching my 14th hour at work, and will be here for two more...   :veryangry:     :sleep:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Donkey on August 27, 2012, 07:59:34 PM
I know how it feels Chris. Nearly over now though  ;)

Marty
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on August 27, 2012, 08:09:12 PM
I hope so!  That's just when the Foreman hoped to leave!  I need the electrics back on to be able to set the alarm.  I'm only 'half' angry, as I'm on double time, so I'll be grateful in a month.....just not tomorrow when I'm up at 6:00am again. :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Donkey on August 27, 2012, 08:19:20 PM
Quote from: Tank on August 27, 2012, 08:09:12 PM
I'm only 'half' angry, as I'm on double time, so I'll be grateful in a month....

Yes I find that always helps  :D

Marty
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Alex on August 29, 2012, 09:02:39 PM
I'm a bit miffed at a number of Ebayers from over the Pond who claim to sell Worldwide but refuse to answer any questions regarding postage to UK. :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on August 29, 2012, 10:45:42 PM
That's usually because they think the world ends once you leave their shores  :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on August 29, 2012, 10:49:12 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on August 29, 2012, 10:45:42 PM
That's usually because they think the world ends once you leave their shores  :o

Also the US Postal Service makes Royal Mail look like a bunch of postal geniuses.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on August 30, 2012, 12:22:43 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on August 29, 2012, 10:45:42 PM
That's usually because they think the world ends once you leave their shores  :o

Please don't let them find out where other countries are - they might invade  :bounce:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mr.Grumpy on September 02, 2012, 03:35:33 PM
Just been diagnosed with tonsillitis.

My joints have all swollen up and my gums are infected as a secondary infection.

My face is also covered in random dermatitis which apparently is because my defenses are low as heck.

I feel so awful right now.

10 days of penicillin for me. I hope I am okay to go to TINGS or I will be so annoyed.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on September 02, 2012, 03:53:04 PM
Quote from: Mr.Grumpy on September 02, 2012, 03:35:33 PM
Just been diagnosed with tonsillitis.

My joints have all swollen up and my gums are infected as a secondary infection.

My face is also covered in random dermatitis which apparently is because my defenses are low as heck.

I feel so awful right now.

10 days of penicillin for me. I hope I am okay to go to TINGS or I will be so annoyed.

I am not surprised you feel awful with all that going on  :(

As well as taking penicillin for the next 10 days I hope you are going to take plenty rest  :stop: and eat loads of food that will build up your immune system  :foodanddrink:

I hope you do get to TINGS but if you don't, there is always next year  :thumbsup:

Take it easy - John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 02, 2012, 04:21:22 PM
Quote from: Mr.Grumpy on September 02, 2012, 03:35:33 PM
Just been diagnosed with tonsillitis.

My joints have all swollen up and my gums are infected as a secondary infection.

My face is also covered in random dermatitis which apparently is because my defenses are low as heck.

I feel so awful right now.

10 days of penicillin for me. I hope I am okay to go to TINGS or I will be so annoyed.

Hope your recovery is speedy and that you manage to get to TINGS :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on September 02, 2012, 04:43:08 PM
Quote from: Mr.Grumpy on September 02, 2012, 03:35:33 PM
Just been diagnosed with tonsillitis.

My joints have all swollen up and my gums are infected as a secondary infection.

My face is also covered in random dermatitis which apparently is because my defenses are low as heck.

I feel so awful right now.

10 days of penicillin for me. I hope I am okay to go to TINGS or I will be so annoyed.
That does not sound good.
I wish you a speedy and full recovery. Just follow all the Docs. instuctions and rest
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on September 02, 2012, 04:49:07 PM
Gutted was just about to put on Dire Straights (33 1/3) Power cut .   grrrrrrrrrrr
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on September 02, 2012, 04:57:05 PM
Quote from: Oldman on September 02, 2012, 04:49:07 PM
Gutted was just about to put on Dire Straights (33 1/3) Power cut .   grrrrrrrrrrr

Power cuts ?.

You know NOTHING we get them here every time there is a thunderstorm  :veryangry: The village is lucky to get 6Kw on a good day in fact its starting to rain now so could get off any se........
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on September 02, 2012, 05:04:07 PM
Quote from: Oldman on September 02, 2012, 04:49:07 PM
Gutted was just about to put on Dire Straights (33 1/3) Power cut .   grrrrrrrrrrr

Well you are in Dire Straights now  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on September 02, 2012, 05:18:58 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on September 02, 2012, 05:04:07 PM
Quote from: Oldman on September 02, 2012, 04:49:07 PM
Gutted was just about to put on Dire Straights (33 1/3) Power cut .   grrrrrrrrrrr

Well you are in Dire Straights now  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:
Was just going to cook dinner as well
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dock Shunter on September 02, 2012, 05:39:52 PM
Quote from: Mr.Grumpy on September 02, 2012, 03:35:33 PM
Just been diagnosed with tonsillitis.


Not nice....... :(
Plenty of Vitamin C onion and garlic (soup) and rest.
Hope you will be feeling well enough to go to the show next week...... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mr.Grumpy on September 03, 2012, 08:10:14 AM
Thanks guys!

Just added impetigo to that list of ailments. My face looks like it needs a mars rover of its own. Highly contagious apparently so make sure you wash your hands after reading this post.

Mr (exponentially) Grumpy
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: swisstony on September 03, 2012, 08:15:50 AM
Glad your not coming to TINGS now !!    :thankyousign:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on September 03, 2012, 09:02:58 AM
Sorry to hear about you being sick Mr G, don't know what it is these days as things don't seem to come singularly anymore  :unimpressed:

Hope you get well quickly and are able to go to TINGS  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thomasash on September 10, 2012, 12:24:52 PM
When the postman/courier puts a "sorry we were unable to deliver..." card through your door and you were in and know they didn't knock (or when you open the door seeing them approaching and they only have the card with them)!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on September 10, 2012, 12:32:41 PM
Quote from: thomasash on September 10, 2012, 12:24:52 PM
When the postman/courier puts a "sorry we were unable to deliver..." card through your door and you were in and know they didn't knock (or when you open the door seeing them approaching and they only have the card with them)!

Happens everywhere in the world, I can tell you I worked as a Postie for 24 years and did the same thing myself  (http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/madhouse/hunter.gif)   (http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/artists/snoozer/pirate.gif)   (http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/artists/snoozer/moderator.gif)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thomasash on September 10, 2012, 12:53:04 PM
Don't they know my ebay purchases are life or death!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on September 10, 2012, 10:38:18 PM
Quote from: thomasash on September 10, 2012, 12:53:04 PM
Don't they know my ebay purchases are life or death!

I guess the posties back home are the same as here in Oz, when you finish your round you sign off and go home so why waste time knocking on peoples door to give them trains  ??? ??? ???

The worst thing I ever heard was a postie left a 12 LP record leaning against a brick wall, the people complained to the post office so next time they received a record he snapped it in half and shoved it in the letter box, how would you like him to deliver your trains, better to get a card  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: they should do the right thing though  :angel: :angel: :angel:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on September 11, 2012, 08:04:16 AM
A couple of years ago my son sent a recorded letter with a fathers day card inside to me,he also put a £20 note in the card.
There was no one in when the delivery was attempted so a card was left to say I could collect it from the sorting office.

The card went missing after the attempted delivery,but trying to get anyone at the post office to understand that it went missing after a delivery attempt was impossible. If it ever happens again like that I'll go to the police and report it stolen.

After a lot of hassle my son eventually got a refund of ....£6.00.

Allan


Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thomasash on September 11, 2012, 09:57:22 AM
For my part I should confess I used to be a courier for Lynx (now part of UPS) and we weren't much better.

Though UPS in the UK always were fantastic for me, much better than any other courier (DHL are good too, but less helpful on the phone)... my experience when I lived in Germany was very different though and both were pretty naff there.

The loading people at the Lynx depot in Southampton used to use the mattresses we delivered as bouncing points to bounce the fragile parcels into the truck and would often drop kick the other fragile parcels... if people lived in weird places and the parcels were small they also used to remove the courier label and add a stamp so Royal Mail would get it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on September 11, 2012, 10:37:18 AM
Quote from: Bikeracer on September 11, 2012, 08:04:16 AM
A couple of years ago my son sent a recorded letter with a fathers day card inside to me,he also put a £20 note in the card.
There was no one in when the delivery was attempted so a card was left to say I could collect it from the sorting office.

The card went missing after the attempted delivery,but trying to get anyone at the post office to understand that it went missing after a delivery attempt was impossible. If it ever happens again like that I'll go to the police and report it stolen.

After a lot of hassle my son eventually got a refund of ....£6.00.

Allan

Not surprised Allan, when I left the Post Office I had to sign a document stating that I would not discuss internal post office business or I could be in trouble, I saw enough to put me off posting money or anything else valuable by mail as we also had money in a Birthday Card go missing more than once.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on September 11, 2012, 11:04:20 AM
One of my milion pet hates is shoe shops, which seem to be
dying out where I live. I choose a pair if shoes and say to the
assistant "Do you have these in size 8 ? "

The assistant goofs off for about 20 minutes then comes back
and says "No , but we have them in size 11"

One day I'll say "I'll take them then I can walk about like a circus clown ."

That reminds me , clowns are another pet hate !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on September 16, 2012, 06:33:02 PM
I'm fed up.

I gave my Canon laser printer away rather than buy a new set of toners  because it was cheaper to buy a new printer and the Canon printer was very frustrating and slow to use.

In july I bought a Samsung clp-325 laser printer and was initially pleased with it.I did notice that when I printed out a Scalescenes tarmac page there was some horizontal banding,I got in touch with Samsung support and was advised to download the latest driver.
I duly did this and there was a slight improvement,the problem now is that I cannot reproduce the colours I had before,regardless of where I move the colour adjustment sliders the colour changes are barely discernible  and all I can get is bright red brickwork which is nothing like the colour I had before.

Again I am at the point where I need to buy more toner cartridges and if Samsung can't provide a solution it looks like another printer for the bin.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on September 16, 2012, 09:17:42 PM
I sympathize with you Allan printers can be a real pain in the backside, I am sick of buying new cartridges and getting hardly anything out of them, cartridges are so damn expensive to replace so its sometimes cheaper to buy a new printer.

The Canon Pixma I am using at the moment makes all kinds of whirring noises all the time and is as slow as a wet week, I recently took an Epson printer back to the shop for a refund because it stopped working after it did 3 prints so I think I will give HP a go next time.

Thought of buying either a Samsung or Fuji laser printer a while ago but wasn't sure if they would work with Linux.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on September 17, 2012, 07:34:15 AM
I have an HP 2100 M which I bought about 10 years ago and it is still going strong (touch wood) the toners last ages and I do loads of printing.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mickeyflinn on September 17, 2012, 07:49:35 AM
We have a HP photosmart all-in-one printer. When we bought it, the cartridges were some of the cheapest available on the market at about £6-£7 each. Amazingly (:confused2:), the price increased to a point that they were double the original price within about 18 months, and, more annoyingly, they didn't last long as they only contained 6-10ml of ink!

Having had enough, I bought a CISS (Continuous Ink Supply System) off eBay for less than the cost of 3 cartridges, AND that came with 100ml of each of the 6 inks. 18 months down the line, we're still on the same inks it came with, having used about 50% from each of the supply tanks. Best thing I ever bought. :bounce: :bounce:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on September 17, 2012, 08:29:17 AM
Having given my printer problem some more thought,the problem could be that it is nearly out of yellow toner,there's approximately 8% left but that could mean it's virtually empty I suppose.

I'm in a bit of a quandry now,do I buy a yellow toner refill or get a different printer ?The cost of a new toner would go a long way towards a new printer.
I'm beginning to think that printers are just a consumable the same as the refills. :hmmm:

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on September 17, 2012, 08:41:25 AM
If it is anything like my bubble jet, it tells you to change cartridges a long time before they actually give up. I get cheap cartridges from my local computer fair. You do get a complaint from the printer that they are not genuine spares and you could damage the printer, but I just press OK and keep printing. It's not done any damage yet.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on September 17, 2012, 08:55:52 AM
I've got Canon S800 and S820 printers,but I haven't used them for about three years,they're both really good printers and I really only bought a laser printer because I didn't want the risk of the ink running when gluing Scalescene printouts. I really ought to get them installed to see if they're still any good or gummed up with dried ink after all this time.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on September 17, 2012, 08:58:47 AM
Are you able to print out a test sheet of colours? That might give a clue if it is the yellow toner that is at fault?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on September 17, 2012, 09:22:40 AM
Quote from: Bikeracer on September 17, 2012, 08:29:17 AM
there's approximately 8% left but that could mean it's virtually empty I suppose.
Why not take it out & give it a shake ?  That can help.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on September 17, 2012, 10:17:26 AM
Took all the cartridges out yesterday and jiggled them about a bit :D

I'll try a test print.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on September 17, 2012, 11:19:50 AM
I printed two different test pages out and the yellow was okay.
Printed some Scalescenes pages out and .everything seems to be back to normal now :hmmm:

Totally baffled but I'll have to get a new yellow toner now rather than a new printer.

Allan.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on September 17, 2012, 12:27:51 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on September 17, 2012, 11:19:50 AM
everything seems to be back to normal now :hmmm:

Totally baffled but I'll have to get a new yellow toner now rather than a new printer.
No need to be baffled; that's just the way with lasers.  When you get the 'low toner' warnings &/or you notice colours aren't right, give the cartidges a good shake; the toner will have settled and you will redistribute it more evenly along the cartidge. 

You can extend the life a lot this way  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on September 17, 2012, 01:58:52 PM
Also ignore the low toner warnings. They are often set at about 25% full, which for home use is tons. Mine has been moaning for about 2 months now and its still churning out instruction sheets. In an another month or so it'll actually need a change !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on September 21, 2012, 04:41:12 PM
Grump.. attack of the UPS parcel Ninjas. They managed to sneak up to the door and stick a 'you were not in' thing through it while I was in the next room  :veryangry:

I've now discovered the doorbell has broken
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on September 21, 2012, 08:42:22 PM
I had a card through the door last Friday, whilst I was out, but my neighbour was in her front garden and the parcel was not left with her. Went on the net to arrange delivery, and could not get it till Monday. When man came to deliver, he moaned that he had had to store it all weekend, and was glad to get rid of it (private car type delivery man). It was a garden roller, so a fairly big box, and he was driving a Fiesta, so .....tough, his career choice, as they say.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on September 22, 2012, 01:01:07 PM
I got home from work yesterday to see a small parcel sitting on top of the electric cupboard outside in full view of anyone walking past. Don't you just love "Signed for delivery"? I just checked the tracking number and it says it's being progressed through the delivery network!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on September 22, 2012, 06:09:39 PM
I'd complain to your Delivery Office Manager about that, signed for is meant to MEAN signed for!  :no:


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on September 23, 2012, 05:05:47 PM
Bl00dy BT....... :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

About a week ago, I thought I'd ask BT about their Infinity service which was enabled on my Exchange at the end of December 2011, and here we are near the end of September 2012 and I'm still not on Inifnity.

If I use the BT ADSL Checker it tells me that I can get 7.5-8.0Mb. Yes I know that, thats what I'm using already......... :( :(

So I check BTOpenreach's own page's and they inform me that my Exchange has been enabled for Infinity and is taking orders, so off I go to BT Retail and try and order Infinity.

"Oh No sir, you can't have Inifinity yet. Your line hasn't been enabled" Says BT Retail.
"But BT Openreach says the Exchange has been enabled, and you are taking orders" says I.
"But not for your line we're not sir" Says BT Retail, "Maybe your Cabinet hasn't been enabled yet?"
"Well can you find out for me please??" Says I
"Oh no sir, thats BT Openreach's department sir" Says BT Retail.
"Ok" Says I "Can I have the number for BT Openreach, please?? As I can't seem to find any information on their website"

I then try the number given and select Option 2 for Broadband, the phone rings 2 or 3 times and then I get cutoff  :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

I ring BT Retail back:
"That number that one of your colleagues gave me, everytime I select Option 2 I get cut off."
"Oh dear sir" Says BT Retail "What would you like to know from BT Openreach sir"

I stare at the phone in utter disbelief, can this person seriously be asking me why I would want to be ringing BT Openreach, so I go through the whole sorry saga of me not being able to or knowing when I will be getting Infinity (thats all I want to know is WHEN!!!!!)

"Ok sir, I suggest you try BT Wholesale, they are the ones who supply the likes of Sky, Talk Talk etc. They should be able to tell you when your Cabinet is going to be upgraded." Says BT Retail.
"Ok" Says I "Can I have their number then please??"
"Oh no" says BT Retail "They don't speak to the Genenral Public, you'll have to email them"

So I duly Email BT Wholesale, asking when I'll be getting Infinity. A day or so later I get an email back, so I exicitedly open the email and start to read, it starts off with the reasons why some of my friends have Infinity and I don't (fair enough I think their lucky, their cabs have been done and mine hsan't just yet). It then drops the bombshell..... A better way to see if and when fibre will be installed in your cabinet is to search with your phone number instead of the postcode. You can search on the ADSL checker on google with your phone number which will show you if and when fibre is planned for your cabinet.   ??? ??? Isn't this what I did before I rang BT Retail a week ago!!!!

So I email back, saying, exactly that, "I've done that and it doesn't tell me, all I want to know is when am I getting Infinity", back comes another email I've copied their reply in full, enjoy!!!!!

Hi Neal,

I'm sorry that I can't provide any more information than what I have below. This is the only information we have to access to which is published to the public via the internet

It could be that your cab is enabled but there is still some work going on in the background to enable this to go live

We are a wholesaler and actually wholesale broadband to Communication Providers like BT Retail, Talk Talk etc

I would have to refer you back to BT Retail and they can query this on your behalf

Failing that I could only suggest contacting Openreach direct.

Regards



AAAAGGGGGHHHHHHHHH  ??? :veryangry: ??? :veryangry: ??? :veryangry: :help: :help: :help: :help:

Sorry for the length of this diatribe, but I just had to get it off my chest.

Cheers

Neal.

P.S. At least Leicester beat Hull today to lighten my mood  :claphappy: :claphappy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on September 23, 2012, 06:46:31 PM
Not atypical. Switch broadband provider and they'll deal with the BT wholesale instead . Plus if you inform them you plan to change providers the quality of customer service magically increases whether you do or not.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on September 23, 2012, 07:36:27 PM
When I started as a Systems Integrator, I had Blue Yonder dial up. I was sending large Autocad drawings to customers and it was taking ages. I contacted Birmingham Cable and asked about their cable broadband, only to be told it would be over a year away. Hence I went to BT. 2weeks later BC sent me a letter saying they were upgrading my cable to digital and needed to change my tv box, did I want to upgrade my broadband?  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on September 23, 2012, 07:52:24 PM
Quote from: Malc on September 23, 2012, 07:36:27 PM
When I started as a Systems Integrator, I had Blue Yonder dial up. I was sending large Autocad drawings to customers and it was taking ages. I contacted Birmingham Cable and asked about their cable broadband, only to be told it would be over a year away. Hence I went to BT. 2weeks later BC sent me a letter saying they were upgrading my cable to digital and needed to change my tv box, did I want to upgrade my broadband?  :veryangry:

That is not a company issue, that is just "Sods Law" at work  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on September 23, 2012, 08:16:57 PM
Yes, I agree, but what hosed me off was the website said my postcode had digital, but customer services said it didn't and I foolishly believed them.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on September 23, 2012, 09:27:39 PM
Quote from: Malc on September 23, 2012, 08:16:57 PM
Yes, I agree, but what hosed me off was the website said my postcode had digital, but customer services said it didn't and I foolishly believed them.

One of the problems is that postcodes don't *actually* tell you whether you have a suitable link or the like. That's on a per line basis and in some locations its quite possible half a postcode does.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on September 24, 2012, 12:51:55 PM
I have just had a secondhand (eBay) Digital Video Recording unit delivered to me at work.  It's a Dedicated Micros Sprite 2, and records CCTV.  I bought it on the 6th, and I've already sent two messages to the seller asking where it is.   They never responded.  Before this they were really good at answering questions.   ::)

I was relieved to see it this morning when I got to work, and was happy when I saw that it was in its original box.  When I opened the box I saw that it was loose.  No bubble wrap or anything!  The unit is scratched all over the front. :doh:  Why are people so stupid as to not put a couple of layers of bubble wrap around it?!  This is a very expensive bit of kit, and they've just chucked it in a box and posted it.... :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on September 24, 2012, 04:08:05 PM
I don't know what is happening on eBay with some sellers.

I have been buying from eBay for years and never had any problems, I've had to return items and was given a refund or they were broken and was told to keep it and was given a refund.

I am now on my third case this year against sellers, I won the first two and have no reason to assume I will not win this one.

They just stop replying to messages, the latest one is only for a Del Prado Adler loco and coaches which have not appeared.

I will most likely never be able to afford the Adler as they go for crazy money so buying the Del Prado seemed to be the next best thing.

The cost is just over £6 including p&p so I cannot understand why people are willing to have negative feedback left for that small amount of money  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mr.Grumpy on September 27, 2012, 07:18:27 PM
Not found a house yet.

Thought I had my dream house yesterday but then I wasn't quick enough to sign for the damn thing. It had so much space too!

Later on yesterday I got news that 1) my grandad has skin cancer then during that call my mother learnt that friends dad had died (text during the call).

Work is stressful with people mocking my slow recovery from illness.

So I am pretty much completely spent  I've not laid a single piece of track in 3 weeks.

My grandad will probably be fine. I'm alright at what I do so work will be okay and when I find my place I will gat dam work on my postponed layout. Am I angry? I guess a little angry at all my crappyday buses coming on the same day.

So that's the excuse for my absence NGF, I'll be back.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: StufromEGDL on October 10, 2012, 07:44:23 PM
Hi Gang;

I have a pretty trivial one in the big scheme of things...Here goes;

A few weeks ago, whilst I was out of the country a friend purchased a couple of FNAs for me.  He duly handed them over in exchange for hard cash last week.  I then proceeded this morning to unpack them to remove the awful top numbers.  Duly admiring my Brasso handiwork, I then noticed that one of the FNAs was missing both buffers on one end.  Quick search of box, bench & floor proved fruitless....so a quick e-mail to BAchmann service dep asking for a couple of buffers as they obviously hadn't been fitted and I am sans receipt and many miles from shop.

Bachmann's reply was that they have no rolling stock spares and to return it to the shop for replacement or refund. Now I cannot do that as I now have no receipt and 'damaged' goods.  My rant is that if I did return it to the dealer, he would swap it, return the offender to Bachmann for replacement or dealer credit and Bachmann would have an incomplete FNA on their shelf.  Now, if the nice me at the service department had just given me a couple of buffers, perhaps off a stock item, then the same result would ensue.

Unfortunately, Bachmann have washed their hands of it and I now need to talk to Bernard Taylor nicely for a pair of Oval Buffers for my FNA.

Like I said....trivial....but Bachmann have disappointed me today!!!

Later;
STU from EGDL
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 10, 2012, 08:52:11 PM
As they used to say in 'Viz' - FNA FNA

Having spent many years in Sales & Customer Service, I have always gone out of my way to ensure customers were happy. It takes years to build a reputation and 5 minutes to lose it. I think Bachmann have shot themselves in the foot here and should have gone the extra mile rather than hiding behind any excuse not to help :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on October 10, 2012, 09:36:06 PM
I love reading this section every now and then it makes me realize that life is not all that bad  :doh: :doh: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bad Raven on October 11, 2012, 09:58:33 PM
Rant Time........... Currently, I am trying:-

1. To buy something costing near four figures from the sole manufacturing UK direct seller, this being their prime product.

2. To rent a hall several times, a hall that the controlling person said he is keen to earn rental income from.

In both cases communication by Phone rings out, Voicemail and Email goes unanswered for a week or more, and even when I do get a reply it is only a partial answer.

For example, to buy item one, I needed a total cost inc delivery simply to be able to get authorisation and pay, easy enough?  They are direct retail sellers of what they make, I want to be a buyer, cash or any monetary system they like short of slavery, how hard is that???

BUT..... it took two weeks to get a seemingly grudging partial answer of a price per unit, when right from the start I'd asked for costs for a specific number of units and any delivery costs for that amount.

OK, so I can add, BUT they show THREE DIFFERING per batch multiples across Email, Website, etc. 

A further week plus, and more prompts, I finally get honoured with the delivery cost.

On item 2, the hall hire has been going on for months, so that two dates I wanted have passed, and while I finally got the info out of him, it's now too late for a third date to go ahead.

Neither have ever acknowledged any contact until I have managed to pin them down directly, when I get an apology, a promise of action, and then little or no progress results.

Do we not DO business any more in this country??    :veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 12, 2012, 08:02:46 PM
Quote from: Bad Raven on October 11, 2012, 09:58:33 PM
Do we not DO business any more in this country??    :veryangry: :veryangry:

Oh does that sound familiar to me as someone running a small business.

It's also incredibly hard to find someone wanting to do something even the slightest bit different. Even if they've got the equipment and they'd profit nicely on it too. I've ended up getting a couple of things done in other countries simply because the answer I get then is usually more constructive by half.

Some of them also just try it on, they want to see whether you'll come back and chase them or not so they know what price to quote you.

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Matthew-peter on October 14, 2012, 02:38:22 PM
Ok so my layout isnt up and running and I dont have much stock. This doesnt bother me.

However, my cousin, who has a roundy round layout in the loft is up there with his friends, doing what they do best, breaking brilliant 00 scale models, he spends hundreds of pounds on these things and they treat them like trash, all i can hear is grinding of gears because they find it fun to hold them in place and crash them into each other. I mean these are the newest of the new, the highly detailed stuff not the old lima stuff.  :thumbsdown: no matter how much I try to get them to look after them it just doesnt work  :veryangry:

Rant over  :-[, Im going to go and wait for my gear to arrive so i can work on the layout. (I know its sunday, Ill be waiting for a while)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 14, 2012, 05:26:48 PM
Housewarming Party over.

Good time had by all.

Just discovered my Lydle End War Memorial (quite hard to find) has lost an arm from its cross.

Annoyed

:veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 14, 2012, 09:01:12 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on October 14, 2012, 05:26:48 PM
Housewarming Party over.

Good time had by all.

Just discovered my Lydle End War Memorial (quite hard to find) has lost an arm from its cross.

Annoyed

:veryangry:

The resin models seem to glue very well with wood glue. I knocked the chimney off my old pumping house building and with a bit of titebond it's now happy again. Fortunately it was a clean break so you can't even see the join.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 14, 2012, 09:18:11 PM
I would not be so worried, as Etched says, but there is no sign of the missing piece  ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: AndyGif on October 14, 2012, 11:05:16 PM
its those damn n gauge vandals that will have wrecked the war memorial.
check the nearest stretch of track, they are bound to have put it on the line hoping to derail something....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: bigbear on October 15, 2012, 12:17:30 AM
Nothing annoys me more than some person ringing me up in the middle of something important - model railway time, for instance! - to ask if I want to make a claim for some ficticious accident I may have had several years ago, or if I've been wrongly sold insurance or if I'd like to talk to them about the cost of pies in Austria, or something... If I did want to talk to them, I would have joined a forum!

My son has the best solution: He says, "Oh, you want my Dad, I'll get him for you", then goes back to whatever he was doing, leaving the phone off the hook... I often wonder how long the caller might hang on for!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: kiwi1941 on October 15, 2012, 12:47:00 AM
Quote from: bigbear on October 15, 2012, 12:17:30 AM
My son has the best solution: He says, "Oh, you want my Dad, I'll get him for you", then goes back to whatever he was doing, leaving the phone off the hook... I often wonder how long the caller might hang on for!

I reply "Fine - my consultancy fees are $200 per hour. Please give me your GST number [or VAT number for UK readers] for the invoice." The silence and confusion is palpable!! Brian
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 15, 2012, 08:07:14 AM
I usually take the callers full name and company name and then say my solicitor will be in touch regarding invasion of privacy. It's very effective :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on October 15, 2012, 09:14:23 AM
We got a silent phone number about 8 years ago so we don't have to put up with those annoying twits  :veryangry:

We also have two stickers on the door asking sales people not to knock or they will be reported to the State Authorities, nothing so far but who knows  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 15, 2012, 10:45:17 AM
Quote from: bigbear on October 15, 2012, 12:17:30 AM
My son has the best solution: He says, "Oh, you want my Dad, I'll get him for you", then goes back to whatever he was doing, leaving the phone off the hook... I often wonder how long the caller might hang on for!

The one in the street who pestered me a while back didn't look too happy when my reply to "have you had an accident" was "no but would you like one ?"  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on October 15, 2012, 11:37:55 AM
I once answered the phone and some pest flogging loft insulation
or somesuch guff asked for me by name, I replied he doesn't exist
this is a police safe house and you've blown a covert operation costing
thousands, you'll be hearing from us ... there was a deathly silence
at the other end and a sheepish apology. Got the idea from
the Hitchcock movie "North by Northwest".

Another time when TalkTalk was my ISP I was constantly
getting calls from Minnie Mouse voiced women in the far east
trying to sell me services I didn't want. (No not those!)

Once I answered and a voice said "Harro can I speak to Mr Arran"

I said " He's not here "

She asks "Where he ?"

I said "He's trekking in Nepal"

She says "This no trekking season !"

I said " But he doesn't know that!"
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on October 15, 2012, 06:07:23 PM
Quote from: oldrailbug on October 15, 2012, 09:14:23 AM
We got a silent phone number about 8 years ago so we don't have to put up with those annoying twits  :veryangry:

We also have two stickers on the door asking sales people not to knock or they will be reported to the State Authorities, nothing so far but who knows  :)

I'm guessing that's Aussie for ex-directory over here is it? It doesn't matter any more here as we get them from all over the world and random numbers are often called by machine. First one to pick up gets the call, the others get silence. Then the same sequence starts again. And again. And again. I admit I have been quite rude to some of them and have had them swearing at me.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on October 15, 2012, 06:11:49 PM
Best thing I ever invested in was a Caller Display Unit. About a tenner from e-bay. If the number is "unavailable","Withheld" or starts with 0800 or any of the other numbers we have noted down, we don't answer.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on October 15, 2012, 07:29:38 PM
I understand what you're saying but we have caller ID too. However, it doesn't stop the damn thing ringing.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 15, 2012, 07:34:57 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on October 15, 2012, 07:29:38 PM
I understand what you're saying but we have caller ID too. However, it doesn't stop the damn thing ringing.

You need a smarter phone 8)

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on October 15, 2012, 07:46:17 PM
I had a call telling me I had a virus on my pc (which was not switched on), I said I had no virus, and had not had a virus for over 3 years, it kinda went like this:

Caller : Sir, our scans show you definitely have a virus

Me: so you have illegally hacked my pc and scanned my HD have you?

Caller: Oh no sir, it is merely a service we provide we don't access any data

Me: If you don't access any data how do you know I have a virus

Caller: Sir, it is a discreet scan that does not access any personal data

Me: So how did you get my number if it does not access any personal data

Caller: Sir, your details were in our worldwide database and it automatically tells us when a problem is discovered.

Me: I definitely have no virus' on my pc

Caller: (now quite stroppy - and no Sir now) Yes you do, how do you know, you're not a computer expert, you don't know what you're doing!

Me: WTF! you know nothing about me or what I do for a living you cheeky wee *******, I've been working with computers since before you were ******* born you parasitical little piece of ****, if you ever call this number again I will fly over there and shove your ******* headset up your ******* ****, now **** ***. 

Then it all went quiet!

Lucky he got me on a good day  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on October 15, 2012, 08:09:51 PM
I am so pleased you added that last line as I was about to reply saying the same thing  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on October 15, 2012, 08:12:26 PM
SWMBO managed to keep the buggers on the line for over 20 minutes ... my record is only 15  :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on October 15, 2012, 08:30:26 PM
On somewhat similar thread I was having my tea one evening
when the doorbell rang, I was a bit p'd off and opened the door.

There was a young guy with a clipboard and a yellow vest
who said he was from XYZ energy co or something and could
save me 30 % on my gas bill. I told him that would be incredible
as I'm all electric. He didn't seem to get it and shuffled off.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Donkey on October 15, 2012, 08:33:27 PM
Have you tried registering (for free) with the Telephone Preference Service http://www.tpsonline.org.uk/tps/number_type.html (http://www.tpsonline.org.uk/tps/number_type.html) ? After you register, all unsolicited calls should stop within a couple of weeks. It has worked a treat for me and family and friends I have told about it. You do however have to re-register every 12 months. Not sure if other countries have a version of this service.

Marty
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on October 15, 2012, 08:38:33 PM
It seems to me that there is always someone wanting to annoy the crap out of people these days, more adverts on TV and Radio than actual programme content, adverts on Smart Phones, annoying phone calls, TV channels dedicated to selling stuff, and model railway forums where members think that everyone is below them, all they want to do is plunder our wallets and lets face it things are tough enough without all that rubbish, thank goodness I can retreat to the shed and my layouts.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on October 15, 2012, 08:42:42 PM
I sometimes get a silent call, which goes on for about 30 seconds. If I hang on, BT come on the line, quoting a phone number, where each digit is spoken by a different person. It then asks me to press either 3 or 5 to hear the message. I then get a similar multi voiced message from my dentist, reminding me of my next appointment. I have asked them to remove me from their reminder list, but to no avail.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on October 15, 2012, 08:52:50 PM
Quote from: Donkey on October 15, 2012, 08:33:27 PM
Have you tried registering (for free) with the Telephone Preference Service http://www.tpsonline.org.uk/tps/number_type.html (http://www.tpsonline.org.uk/tps/number_type.html) ? After you register, all unsolicited calls should stop within a couple of weeks. It has worked a treat for me and family and friends I have told about it. You do however have to re-register every 12 months. Not sure if other countries have a version of this service.

Marty

I have not heard you have to re-register every twelve months  :confused2:

You also need to tick the opt out of the Voter Roll bit on the form from the coucil (I can't remember the correct name for it)

Also be ex directory and if anyone in a shop or online asks for a contact phone number give them a mobile number, it only took one call to T-Mobile to get all advertising text messages stopped  ;)

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: bigbear on October 15, 2012, 08:55:03 PM
Quote from: Donkey on October 15, 2012, 08:33:27 PM
Have you tried registering (for free) with the Telephone Preference Service http://www.tpsonline.org.uk/tps/number_type.html (http://www.tpsonline.org.uk/tps/number_type.html) ? After you register, all unsolicited calls should stop within a couple of weeks. It has worked a treat for me and family and friends I have told about it. You do however have to re-register every 12 months. Not sure if other countries have a version of this service.

Marty

We are on this list and it's quite a good thing to use: "We are on the TPS and if you'll just give me your company's details, We'll be happy to start proceedings against you". Usually takes a few milliseconds before the line goes dead!

I want to get a ref's whistle, but Mrs. Bigbear seems to think I'd get into trouble if I used it... I reckon it'd be quite some time before they could make another phone call, though!

Am I being too radical?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 15, 2012, 09:17:26 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on October 15, 2012, 08:52:50 PM

Voter Roll


I always thought that was an anti inflammatory gel :confused1:

Quote from: scotsoft on October 15, 2012, 08:52:50 PM


Also be ex directory

I've been ex directory for 3 years and now BT have cocked up and put me in their latest directory. I phoned them up and bol told them off but, heck, the damage is done and they're not going to recall all the local directories, are they?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on October 15, 2012, 09:25:49 PM
Long queues at the Post Office being made longer by counter staff attempting to sell life insurance to customers . . .
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: bigbear on October 15, 2012, 09:56:10 PM
Well if you're going to be in the queue that long, it makes sense to sell life insurance! Perhaps they'll start selling refreshments from those trays you used to see in cinemas too?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on October 15, 2012, 10:11:33 PM
Post Office queue today was full of ebayers, posting their parcels!!!! Went to the newspaper counter to cash in a £10 lottery ticket, only to be told that payouts had to be done at the PO counter!!!! I could buy a lottery ticket, but not cash one in. Won't be going back there for my lottery. One time I support closing little two window sub post offices, as this one is a total waste of time. If you are lucky enough to get to the counter, the husband and wife who run it are rude and grumpy - doctor's receptionists in a past life, I bet - and don't get me started on them.
Too late, I've started. Took mother for her flu jab to the local surgery. Asked if I could have one, as I am her carer and also with my cancer treatment, I am susceptible to the flu. Appears I am not a registered carer (with Social Services) so no, and only cancer patients on chemo can have it. So off to Boots for a £10 jab.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Cimmerian on October 16, 2012, 09:18:26 AM
If it helps they're £7 in Asda.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: bigbear on October 16, 2012, 09:40:00 AM
Being surly is a pre-requisite for working on a Post Office counter! Also, speaking in a voice loud enough to be heard through the bullet proof glass is discouraged!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on October 16, 2012, 10:03:46 AM
Its a well known fact that the most precious thing you can give is time because we don't have much of it to spare.

I would love to have the time I wasted waiting in line at Banks, Post Offices, Supermarkets and a dozen other places.

Customer service is worth nothing these days, staff are there to serve us but the way people have to wait so long for service you would think we were there to serve them.

Another thing I hate is when checkout chicks and other staff are told to say to a customer "Have a Nice Day" when they couldn't give a toss if you got run over by a truck once you leave the building.

I may sound like I am anti this and anti that but I cant stand the false plastic crap world we live in, the brainwashing we get every day and getting ripped off by massive oil companies, Banks, Supermarkets and others.

Oh well thats my gripe for the day now i'm off to work on the layout.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 16, 2012, 10:38:55 AM
Quote from: oldrailbug on October 16, 2012, 10:03:46 AM
Customer service is worth nothing these days.

I don't think that's entirely true. I'm with a small internet provider and their service is fantastic. I've got small local food shops where the same is true.

And recently I ordered some  DCC lighting controllers that can handle the backward to usual arrangements on the signal lights I've got. Coastal DCC the UK stockist didn't have the number I wanted, and it was a discontinued item. He went to the trouble of checking if there was old stock in the USA despite being discontinued, contacting me and then arranging to get them with his next order from the supplier  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

So good customer service isn't dead, it's just hiding.

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on October 16, 2012, 10:48:36 AM
 :sorrysign: Alan, you are right of course there are plenty of places where service is great but sadly over here in Oz I get the feeling that people get taken for granted by big organizations, they have an I couldn't care less attitude and don't seem interested in improving their image.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: bigbear on October 16, 2012, 10:58:21 AM
Blimey! When we were in Australia, (Perth, Melbourne, Sydney, Newcastle), we were impressed at how good customer service was wherever we went! Things must be worse here that we thought...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 16, 2012, 04:08:25 PM
The joys of student season. It seems that 'standing in the most stupid place possible while blocking the entire pavement' must now be an examinable subject for university entry.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Matthew-peter on October 16, 2012, 04:11:53 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on October 16, 2012, 04:08:25 PM
The joys of student season. It seems that 'standing in the most stupid place possible while blocking the entire pavement' must now be an examinable subject for university entry.


So thats why when I was in Oxford I wasnt able to move more than a few centimetres  :laughabovepost: and I thought they were all studying English Lit and Maths  :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on October 16, 2012, 07:32:16 PM
Once went into Boots in Guildford, after a film for my camera. Two "assistants" on the till debating which would go for lunch first, while I stood there like a lemon. They finally (after 5 minutes), decided which would go, but carried on their conversation as one walked away. Finally, the one staying turned to me, with a false smile, and asked me how he could help. I couldn't help myself, and asked for beef stew and dumplings with apple pie to follow. I then turned round and went to Dixons for my film (it was a long time ago!).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on October 16, 2012, 09:22:10 PM
Quote from: Kipper on October 16, 2012, 07:32:16 PM
Once went into Boots in Guildford, after a film for my camera. Two "assistants" on the till debating which would go for lunch first, while I stood there like a lemon. They finally (after 5 minutes), decided which would go, but carried on their conversation as one walked away. Finally, the one staying turned to me, with a false smile, and asked me how he could help. I couldn't help myself, and asked for beef stew and dumplings with apple pie to follow. I then turned round and went to Dixons for my film (it was a long time ago!).

:D :D :D :D Love that one Kipper, I have a friend that worked as a carpenter on a new Melbourne skyscraper, he went into a camera shop during his lunch break dressed in his overalls, he stood and waited and waited while the counter staff sold a roll of film and a lens cloth to customer wearing a suit, sick of waiting he walked out and went a few shops away to another camera store where he did get served, he paid cash for a $3,000 Hasselblad camera, he had to walk past the first shop where they wouldn't serve him on his way back to work so he nicked in and asked to speak to the manager, the rest is history but my mate had the last laugh.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Cimmerian on October 17, 2012, 08:38:17 AM
Quote from: Kipper on October 16, 2012, 07:32:16 PM
Once went into Boots in Guildford, after a film for my camera. Two "assistants" on the till debating which would go for lunch first, while I stood there like a lemon. They finally (after 5 minutes), decided which would go, but carried on their conversation as one walked away. Finally, the one staying turned to me, with a false smile, and asked me how he could help. I couldn't help myself, and asked for beef stew and dumplings with apple pie to follow. I then turned round and went to Dixons for my film (it was a long time ago!).

A long time ago I worked in Dixons at Guildford. We used to get a lot of people come in because they were fed up with waiting in boots. (Didn't seem to mind waiting in slippers though.  :D)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on October 17, 2012, 08:48:43 AM
If you need to see a doctor at our surgery or Primary Care Trust as it's called now it's necessary to go to the surgery when it opens at 8.00am and book it at the desk.
The phone is always engaged before 8.30am and if you do finally get through there are no appointments left.

Anyway I went there this morning to make a fairly urgent appointment for my wife only to be told that there are no doctors appointments today because all the doctors are in a meeting every wednesday afternoon and all I could get was a telephone appointment. The meetings are probably to discuss how to spend even less on patient care thus leaving a bigger money pot for the staff to get money from.

The local NHS trust refuse me enough of a prescription I need every month because of cost,but are quite happy to award redundancy payments approaching a quarter of a million pounds to management staff.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 17, 2012, 09:05:14 AM
Quote from: Bikeracer on October 17, 2012, 08:48:43 AM
The meetings are probably to discuss how to spend even less on patient care thus leaving a bigger money pot for the staff to get money from.

Wherever all the NHS money goes, it isn't most of the staff. They get paid peanuts. The English trusts also burned billions trying to build a super whizzo computer system that never worked despite the entire computing industry (except the now very rich NHS IT consultants)  telling them it was a disaster.

:veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 17, 2012, 10:24:38 AM
Mindless zombies on mobiles while they are walking or driving.
Old people (bless 'em) who clog up the aisles or doorways of shops to have a natter.
Suicidal maniacs on bicycles who insist on riding erratically in the dark with no lights and in dark coloured clothing.

Why can't we be allowed to run into them/knock them out of the way? It should be considered the new National Sport, and Open Season declared :veryangry2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on October 17, 2012, 01:38:31 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 17, 2012, 10:24:38 AM
Mindless zombies on mobiles while they are walking or driving.
Old people (bless 'em) who clog up the aisles or doorways of shops to have a natter.
Suicidal maniacs on bicycles who insist on riding erratically in the dark with no lights and in dark coloured clothing.

Why can't we be allowed to run into them/knock them out of the way? It should be considered the new National Sport, and Open Season declared :veryangry2:

People with baby buggies who chose to have a natter on the narrowest piece of pavement on a sharp bend so that it is quite dangerous to get round them. Sometimes there are very small children with them who need restraining else they run into the road. If they moved a few yards there would be more room for them. I don't know why they congregate on this bend.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on October 17, 2012, 02:48:52 PM
I can never understand why some mothers with a pushchair or buggy stand at the kerb waiting to cross the road and put the buggy on the road in front of them.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on October 17, 2012, 04:37:41 PM
Blimey.... most of my rants covered by last few postings.

One of my grouches is not getting served in pubs especially my
local Weathered Spoons in Paisley where staff do anything but serve
you. Only reason I go in is because its convenient for the station
and their prices for real ale aren't bad, also the other nearby pubs
are absolute pits. Knowing of the bad service I once went in and
stood at the bar , after about 15 minutes a man in a suit appeared
behind me on the public side of the bar and said "Can I help you?"
I ordered a pint and he looked surprised and asked why have you been
there so long and I told him the staff were ignoring me, he called
one of them over and asked them to serve me and said "Happy now?"
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 17, 2012, 06:39:39 PM
I see the Lancashire police have tasered a 61 year old blind man after they thought his white stick was a samurai sword :jawdropping: :smackedface:

You couldn't make it up, could you :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Matthew-peter on October 17, 2012, 08:20:33 PM
Twice in one week for me?  :hmmm:

Why is it every time something happens on my uncles computer its my fault? he keeps trying to get me to fix it and making it seem like its my fault in the first place grrrrrrr  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on October 17, 2012, 08:34:27 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 17, 2012, 06:39:39 PM
I see the Lancashire police have tasered a 61 year old blind man after they thought his white stick was a samurai sword :jawdropping: :smackedface:

You couldn't make it up, could you :o

Yes I can  ;)

Once upon a time I saw Lancashire police .............. 

:smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on October 17, 2012, 08:57:43 PM
Quote from: Matthew-peter on October 17, 2012, 08:20:33 PM
Twice in one week for me?  :hmmm:
Why is it every time something happens on my uncles computer its my fault? he keeps trying to get me to fix it and making it seem like its my fault in the first place grrrrrrr  :veryangry:

These will not stop your evil uncle but they may give you some satisfaction  ;)

Next time tell him it is a:

PICNIC error - Problem in chair not in computer

or

ID-10T error - Idiot error

The second one is my preferred insult  :thumbsup:

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Matthew-peter on October 17, 2012, 08:59:09 PM
 :laughabovepost: Thanks for those, Will try the second one first I think  ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on October 17, 2012, 09:17:20 PM
Tell him he;s entitled to complain about all the work he's paid for & is unhappy about ...  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 17, 2012, 09:27:09 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 17, 2012, 10:24:38 AM
Why can't we be allowed to run into them/knock them out of the way? It should be considered the new National Sport, and Open Season declared :veryangry2:

You are I'm sure. A judicious swing of the shopping bag over the shoulder as the cyclist rides past from behind you is a good way to score maximum points.

I do have a lot of sympathy for those who ride sensibly on the pavement at lowish speeds even though they shouldn't. A lot of our roads are just too dangerous for anything but a tank.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on October 18, 2012, 08:34:45 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on October 17, 2012, 09:27:09 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 17, 2012, 10:24:38 AM
Why can't we be allowed to run into them/knock them out of the way? It should be considered the new National Sport, and Open Season declared :veryangry2:

You are I'm sure. A judicious swing of the shopping bag over the shoulder as the cyclist rides past from behind you is a good way to score maximum points.

I do have a lot of sympathy for those who ride sensibly on the pavement at lowish speeds even though they shouldn't. A lot of our roads are just too dangerous for anything but a tank.
When they start paying road tax the same as car drivers do then cyclists will get some respect from me :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on October 18, 2012, 09:09:54 PM
 :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: Cyclists  :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

Every Saturday morning at 7am I drive to my mates second hand model train shop and groups of cyclists ride 2 ans 3 abreast along two lane roads with a queue of cars behind  :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

They have no regard for the road rules, for example they wont stop at pedestrian crossings, they block complete lane's on multi lane roads, don't give hand signals, they ride through red lights if there is no traffic coming and like to think they have a law all to themselves  :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

They should have to register their bikes like a motor cycle including fitting of a registration plates front and rear, get a special licence and be fined for breach of road rules the same as a motorist including licence cancellation and vehicle seasure  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: I would love the job of crushing their bikes for the ones that had them confiscated  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

They have the cheek to complain that motorists don't show them any road respect, all I can say to that is respect works both ways chum.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 18, 2012, 09:22:13 PM
Quote from: oldrailbug on October 18, 2012, 09:09:54 PM
:veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: Cyclists  :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

Every Saturday morning at 7am I drive to my mates second hand model train shop and groups of cyclists ride 2 ans 3 abreast along two lane roads with a queue of cars behind  :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

They have no regard for the road rules, for example they wont stop at pedestrian crossings, they block complete lane's on multi lane roads, don't give hand signals, they ride through red lights if there is no traffic coming and like to think they have a law all to themselves  :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

They should have to register their bikes like a motor cycle including fitting of a registration plates front and rear, get a special licence and be fined for breach of road rules the same as a motorist including licence cancellation and vehicle seasure  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: I would love the job of crushing their bikes for the ones that had them confiscated  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

They have the cheek to complain that motorists don't show them any road respect, all I can say to that is respect works both ways chum.

couldn't agree more.
near here the council built a cycle track to get cyclists off the busy road, and where do the lycra clad, helmets on handlebar, cretins ride .....

that's right, on the road, weaving in and out of the potholes that could have been repaired with the money wasted on the cycle track.

and why does the dopy sod that dawdles along always start peddling like hell as soon as you try to overtake him ??

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davieb on October 18, 2012, 09:36:10 PM
hi all  :wave:

couldn't agree more about these lycra clad morons who think they own the roads
more so when they insist on riding 2 abrest with the same wheel track as a HGV  :veryangry:  :veryangry:  :veryangry:

but please if you come across any cycle club outings in the West Lancashire area don't try bullying them  ???
because they carry video cameras and will pass on to the police any footage of "road rage"  >:(
as my mate found out to his cost (£50 fine and 3 points)  :o  :o

dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on October 18, 2012, 09:41:39 PM
No green votes from NGF at the next General Election then  :confused1:  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on October 18, 2012, 09:46:29 PM
I can agree that there are a lot of cyclists that are idiots, but as someone who used to cycle 25 miles a day to and from work, I had lots of idiots who drove cars and nearly made me have an accident.  One of the stupidest was a woman in a jeep who overtook me, then stopped in the middle of the main road.  Suddenly the passenger door opened and a 6 year old boy jumped out into the cycle lane.  I slammed on my brakes and just missed the poor lad.

I don't agree with cyclists having to pay road tax.  I'm not allowed to cycle on the pavement (and they are strict in Croydon), so I'm forced to ride on the road - and quite rightly so.  I would be quite happy to ride on an old muddy track or road (as were abundant when bikes were invented), but because of cars we have to have tarmac on the roads, and so the vehicles that need it should pay for it!   :P  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on October 18, 2012, 09:54:18 PM
Quotebut please if you come across any cycle club outings in the West Lancashire area don't try bullying them 
because they carry video cameras and will pass on to the police any footage of "road rage" 
as my mate found out to his cost (£50 fine and 3 points)   

:hmmm: :hmmm: I wonder if it works the other way around, if a passenger in a car videoed bad cyclists.....? I doubt it - no way of tracking them because bicycles aren't registered like cars!  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 18, 2012, 10:06:57 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on October 18, 2012, 09:41:39 PM
No green votes from NGF at the next General Election then  :confused1:  :D

certainly not from me.

never mind culling badgers, lets cull cyclists  :bounce:

5 points each, 50 points any prize off the bottom shelf

100 points any prize off the centre shelf

150 points any prize off the top shelf

250 points ----- trolly dash round Hattons  :claphappy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on October 18, 2012, 10:11:16 PM
What bugs me more than anything is the road that they ride 2 and 3 abreast on has a 4km long purpose built cycle track along side it, for some reason these toffee nosed morons wont lower themselves to use a cycle track  :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: the cycle track was built to protect these idiots because the road is well known as a dangerous road for cars never mind cyclists.

I think the sad thing about this is the good old bike rider that plods along on a mountain bike or non racing type bikes have never really been any problem but its this sudden "I want to bee seen" type club cyclist that cause the problems.

I live at the end of a shopping centre that has 19 restaurants and three Coffee Shops, at the weekend you cant walk on the footpath because the bikes take up all the space, I wonder what makes these geezers tick when they plod around with their special shoes and shaved legs, not to mention the packed lunches they love to show off that is tucked down the front of their Lycra pants  :help: :help: :help:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 19, 2012, 12:02:02 AM
I'm firmly of the opinion that cyclists should pay road tax.. but based on their fuel efficiency like everyone else  :bounce:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: 1936ace on October 19, 2012, 01:14:43 AM
Hi all, well my angry thread of some time back finally had a well sort of good ending. After 12 months of fair trading and court attendances we got the order we were after in that the contractor has to make good the repairs and as he did not face up to court the judge awarded the cost to me so I can get someone else to do the pool surrounds done correctly. He has 14 days to come good with the money or a sheriff goes a visiting fingers crossed !
Bart

Still it makes me angry that a person can get away with faulty work and then think they are not responsible for it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: point blank on October 19, 2012, 04:15:03 AM
Quote from: jonclox on October 18, 2012, 08:34:45 PM
When they start paying road tax the same as car drivers do then cyclists will get some respect from me :veryangry:
How much is your road tax a year? I currently pay £475 tax for my car and £135 for my wifes car. How much extra would you like me to pay for the occasional times that i do use my bike to earn your precious respect?   :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on October 19, 2012, 06:33:33 AM
Quote from: point blank on October 19, 2012, 04:15:03 AM
Quote from: jonclox on October 18, 2012, 08:34:45 PM
When they start paying road tax the same as car drivers do then cyclists will get some respect from me :veryangry:
How much is your road tax a year? I currently pay £475 tax for my car and £135 for my wifes car. How much extra would you like me to pay for the occasional times that i do use my bike to earn your precious respect?   :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

Hi there Point Blank, I think the intention of this thread from when I first weighed into it was aimed at club riders that ride in groups and in some cases take over portions of the road that are set aside for motor vehicles.

In an earlier reply I did point out that I felt sorry for the average Joe that gets on his bike for a ride around or maybe to pedal down to the shop for a loaf of bread, IMO this type of rider usually shows respect for other road users and pedestrians.

There is a vast difference to when driving on a two lane road and a group of 10- 20 or maybe 30 cyclists riding 2 and 3 abreast blocking traffic, what is even worse here in Oz is that our city encourages people to ride bikes, just about every road has a bike lane or purpose built pathway for cyclists and these club riders refuse to stay in their allocated lane or use bikeways, for some reason they think it is below them and many have a cocky attitude to motorists then moan if they nearly get sideswiped.

I really think John was talking about the club cyclists that use and sometimes take over the roads in packs, sorry but for me this type of rider with that type of attitude that wants to hog the road should pay some type of road tax so in that respect I agree with John.

There is no excuse for putting themselves and other road users or pedestrians in danger so why should club cyclists get off scot free, maybe if they had some sort of financial inclusion in their membership to clubs that could be used to educate them with the rules of the road and go towards the cost of bikeways that they would use.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on October 19, 2012, 01:33:56 PM
I've just had the call from the Microsoft Technical Department again!

I managed to get a telephone number out of them 0121 2882413 and the company name is something like ACS Manter (the voice was foreign so this may not be correct). They were reluctant to give me this information but I told them it would be useful to have contact information about a company as helpful as theirs in case I needed to use them again (this information has now been sent to Trading Standards)

They are insistent that their servers can see problems with my Windows PC. When I pointed out to them that I don't use Windows they then said that they can see Windows problems with my PC on their server and that I would not know what to look for. So I told them again that I don't use a PC or Windows or Microsoft then they rang off (I actually use an Apple Mac but didn't tell them). Within a few seconds a different foreign voice called me from a Technical department asking to speak to the lady of the house stating I had issues with my PC when I asked for the company name the line went dead.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on October 19, 2012, 08:05:57 PM
I believe this could be a hoax that did the rounds over here in Oz some time back.

People including myself got phone calls telling us that we had problems with our Windows computers, when I got my phone call I was ready for them, a foreign accent told me I had PC problems and I told him I didn't own a computer and if I did I would use something other than Windows, he argued with me for a while so I hung up.

What they do is get the Windows owner to boot their computer and follow a few simple steps to fix the problem, what they are actually doing is setting your computer up so they can get all your personal details including your online banking details.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on October 19, 2012, 08:19:24 PM
I have heard of that call, when I get cold calls my second word is usually "off" and I hang up  >:D

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on October 19, 2012, 10:11:39 PM
Currently annnoyed with Photobucket.
Just uploaded some more photos ready to put on the forum, and now cannot access them coming up error code 503
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on October 19, 2012, 10:13:56 PM
Have you tried the new version of Photobucket yet?

What a disaster  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on October 19, 2012, 10:31:15 PM
Think that might be the problem - laptop trying to update but have not let it update yet.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on October 19, 2012, 11:51:26 PM
The Windows 'fault with your computer' phone call is a scam. They're aiming to get your credit card details by claiming you need to upgrade your virus checker etc. then they empty your bank account. It's been doing the rounds for years.

Microsoft (or any software company for that matter) don't ring you to tell you about computer faults.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: kaiwhara on October 24, 2012, 07:23:10 AM
No Countdown I do not want you to take my basket off me at the checkout, I can't trust you lot not to charge me for two packs of meat and then "neglect" to put them in my bags, especially for me to figure out halfway through cooking dinner!

F&&&&&******%%%%%%^^^^^^^^^ Sake!  :veryangry: :headbutt: :veryangry: :veryangry2: :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry: :computerangry: :veryangry: :telloff: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 24, 2012, 08:18:15 AM
I can see you're slightly peeved ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: kaiwhara on October 24, 2012, 08:20:36 AM
Well, yeah, just a tad. Its not the $10 that I am worried about, its the extra hour and a half it has taken to sort out Dinner when I start work at 0410 tommorow morning (1610 yesterday your speak?)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on October 25, 2012, 07:24:39 PM
Model Rail Magazine or Bauer Media   :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

Last year Della got me a 12 month subscription and has just had the renewal through, and have been faced with a multitude of options, and all of those providing a free gift cost about £9 more than without the free gift, then there are different prices for direct debit over 12, 6 or 3months, debit card or cheques, this is on top of the offer received through the post which is different again, actually at the point of not bothering with renewing at all  :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Gordini5 on October 25, 2012, 10:16:59 PM
I took them up on three issues for a £1. Great intro I thought. Only got two issues and the second one had half the pages incorrectly cut & glued> :veryangry: :veryangry:

Think I'll stick to here & RMWEB.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: bigbear on October 25, 2012, 11:41:23 PM
I've given up with most of the magazines now. After several years of buying them, I'm seeing similar articles returning time after time. It sometimes seems that it's just the reviews that are current. (Huge generalisation, I know, but...). Also, the n gauge content in most magazines is swamped by 00. I end up skimming a lot of it...

There was a time that I took Railway Modeller, Model Rail, British Railway Modeller, The Hornby Magazine, Model Railway Journal, Steam Days and the GWR Journal, plus the N Gauge Society mag., but I'm now just taking the N Gauge Society mag, The Hornby Magazine, (until my subs runs out), and the GWR Journal. I don't think I'm going off the hobby - far from it - but I do feel that the trade press needs to be given a shot in the arm.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 26, 2012, 01:59:05 PM
Quote from: bigbear on October 25, 2012, 11:41:23 PM
but I do feel that the trade press needs to be given a shot in the arm.

A lot of it needs shooting somewhere else and putting out of its misery IMHO. I regularly buy specific issues of old magazines for drawings and reference material and the quality nosedives after the early 1980s. The oldest one I have is from 1926 and covers such interesting news as the new upcoming Schools class locos and removal of some LNER lower quadrant signals. (plus a cracking article on the changes to the GWR fruit vans complete with drawings)

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 26, 2012, 03:45:41 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on October 26, 2012, 01:59:05 PM
The oldest one I have is from 1926

Strewth, EP :o You must be one of our elder statesmen
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 26, 2012, 09:37:31 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 26, 2012, 03:45:41 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on October 26, 2012, 01:59:05 PM
The oldest one I have is from 1926

Strewth, EP :o You must be one of our elder statesmen

No .. I bought it second hand 8)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: d-a-n on November 11, 2012, 11:30:33 AM
One thing which has started to irritate me is the lack of model shops which open on a Sunday.
I work all week in my primary school, I usually have lots to do on a Saturday (shopping, cleaning etc) and that's if I'm not shooting a wedding; on a Sunday I'd like to trawl around local model shops to spend my disposable income. I shop locally in the butchers, greengrocers, fishmongers and deli etc for my food on a Saturday (as they aren't open Sunday), I'd also like to extend the buy local courtesy to local model shop owners.
I could shop online, but I like to see the models first hand and talk to friendly shop staff about the hobby. I live in one of the largest cities in the country and I can think of 3 shops in easy driving distance but they are all closed on a Sunday. I have done and will continue to make the drive to Hattons in Liverpool so I can buy models there and then as I would rather drive an 80 mile round trip and have the model immediately than pay £4 postage and then have to wait two days and go to the post office at 7am to collect my parcel, making me late for work.
I read an editorial article in the Railway Modeller magazine bemoaning railway modelling as a dying hobby and they are right. Most kids aren't bothered about trains, they have no connection to them; no kid wants to be a train driver etc. But then you get my age group (I'm 28) - lads who both fired up the Nintendo AND broke out the Hornby as kids. We have space for a layout in our own places and have the disposable to buy model railways. The next generation of modellers are used to convenience shopping, have well paid jobs but are time poor; most of us DO shop online and take business out of the hands of local shops.
I care about the hobby and want to see it survive - Sunday opening is one survival strategy worth considering.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 11, 2012, 12:45:58 PM
I have been against Sunday shopping since Day 1 not, I hasten to add, on religious grounds.
What did we do before Sunday shopping - we planned our lives! I was against it because staff who needed their jobs were being browbeaten/bullied into working on Sundays or face losing their job :thumbsdown: It further infuriates me that supermarkets open so often over the Christmas period :veryangry: For pity's sake, most of us have fridges and other appliances so why would we need to go and get milk etc if we just planned correctly?
I appreciate the world has moved on and that, owing to money grabbing bosses, lots of folks have to work Sundays, but spare a thought for the poor sods who don't actually have a weekend to themselves because of this. To me, weekends are a 48 hour period to spend time with loved ones away from the pressures of my working week (Mon-Fri)
I am utterly against Sunday opening but more on a principle than anything else :veryangry2:

Sorry - didn't mean to go off on one :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on November 11, 2012, 01:22:33 PM
My little Arnold shunter has just stopped working.
Think it is going to get stripped down to see if I can find the reason why.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on November 11, 2012, 01:50:50 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on November 11, 2012, 12:45:58 PM
I have been against Sunday shopping since Day 1 not, I hasten to add, on religious grounds.
What did we do before Sunday shopping - we planned our lives! I was against it because staff who needed their jobs were being browbeaten/bullied into working on Sundays or face losing their job :thumbsdown: It further infuriates me that supermarkets open so often over the Christmas period :veryangry: For pity's sake, most of us have fridges and other appliances so why would we need to go and get milk etc if we just planned correctly?
I appreciate the world has moved on and that, owing to money grabbing bosses, lots of folks have to work Sundays, but spare a thought for the poor sods who don't actually have a weekend to themselves because of this. To me, weekends are a 48 hour period to spend time with loved ones away from the pressures of my working week (Mon-Fri)
I am utterly against Sunday opening but more on a principle that anything else :veryangry2:

Sorry - didn't mean to go off on one :-[

I hear what you are saying and in some ways agree about being organised, however there are lots of people who have to work the weekends for our benefit before Sunday trading came in. My mrs' is a Staff Nurse caring for the elderly, then there are the various emergency services that we hope we never need, but the various worker have to be at their place of work, just in case. How many people travel over the two days of the weekend? Most of us like something to eat and drink when we arrive, so are normally grateful when there is a restaurant or cafe open... and so it goes on. For some of us weekend work has been a way of life for a long time.

Please don't think I'm having a go, just trying to put a little balance to the weekend working situation.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on November 11, 2012, 01:53:26 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on November 11, 2012, 12:45:58 PM
I appreciate the world has moved on and that, owing to money grabbing bosses, lots of folks have to work Sundays, but spare a thought for the poor sods who don't actually have a weekend to themselves because of this. To me, weekends are a 48 hour period to spend time with loved ones away from the pressures of my working week (Mon-Fri)
I am utterly against Sunday opening but more on a principle that anything else :veryangry2:

Sorry - didn't mean to go off on one :-[

When I worked on shift in a TV control room, we covered 7 day a week, 52/3 weeks a year. I got 1 complete weekend and 2 half weekends off a month, so the ones we did get off were very precious. Xmas and New Year were also just days of the week. So I agree with Mick about Sunday opening. Why do they bother?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on November 11, 2012, 02:30:26 PM
I remember Sundays in the 1970s, it was the most boring pointless day of the week when nothing happened, you couldn't get anything done, and if you something turned out to have gone off or be unsuitable - tough nowhere to buy food either.

I'm all for workers rights, but I'd rather have Sunday opening and staff not treated like crap by tax avoiding scumbags !

Hoping for the EU mandated 40 hour week we opted out of too - then I'd have more modelling time   :D :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on November 11, 2012, 03:04:03 PM
Found the reason my Arnold shunter died.
Slivers of black plastic gear up around the armature.
Motor is*****d so will now be display only.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on November 11, 2012, 03:55:42 PM
I'm all for Remembrance Day and all it entails and I always buy a poppy.
However I was angry that the BBC on the red button channel cut the Moto 2 race off with three laps to go so they could duplicate what was being shown on BBC 1 at the same time.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 11, 2012, 04:03:43 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on November 11, 2012, 03:55:42 PM
I'm all for Remembrance Day and all it entails and I always buy a poppy.
However I was angry that the BBC on the red button channel cut the Moto 2 race off with three laps to go so they could duplicate what was being shown on BBC 1 at the same time.

Allan

Totally agree, Allan. That seriously teed me off too. Everyone who knows me will say I the utmost respect for Remembrance Sunday, but for the sake of another 5-10 minutes would it have hurt? Having said that, the red button is a total lottery half the time :veryangry:
I bet it never even crossed someone's feeble mind at the Beeb to finish the race off on Beeb 2 instead of showing a repeat of Flog It. Grrrrr
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on November 11, 2012, 05:23:12 PM
Was it shown live? If so maybe they should have started the race earlier to give everyone including riders, spectators etc the chance to stop and pay their respects too. Then again it's the BBC, they are a law unto themselves.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on November 11, 2012, 06:02:24 PM
In the same way they put Saturday Kitchen Best Bites on half an hour earlier this morning just so they could have the 2 minutes silence at 11:00  >:(

Unnecessary in my opinion as BBC1 was showing the whole Cenotaph thing live anyway!


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on November 11, 2012, 07:29:06 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on November 11, 2012, 06:02:24 PM
In the same way they put Saturday Kitchen Best Bites on half an hour earlier this morning just so they could have the 2 minutes silence at 11:00  >:(

Unnecessary in my opinion as BBC1 was showing the whole Cenotaph thing live anyway!


Paul

With all respect, I couldn't disagree more!  This is one thing that I'm more than happy to have my licence fee go towards, and can quite happily watch the whole ceremony.  I almost feel it a duty to either watch, or attend.  Each to their own though.  :)

I remember years ago when I worked in a supermarket, we had our two minutes of silence.  Most customers stood still and were quiet.  It was customer policy to have one till left open so that anyone who didn't agree with the silence could carry on shopping.  Very disrespectful to the person on the checkout, as well as everyone else hearing the 'beeps' in my view. :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on November 11, 2012, 07:44:43 PM
Damn heating/hot water systems acting up :(  Boiler is firing - but no hot water out of it into the system at all ...  Argh !  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: H on November 11, 2012, 07:51:12 PM
Quote from: Tank on November 11, 2012, 07:29:06 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on November 11, 2012, 06:02:24 PM
In the same way they put Saturday Kitchen Best Bites on half an hour earlier this morning just so they could have the 2 minutes silence at 11:00  >:(

Unnecessary in my opinion as BBC1 was showing the whole Cenotaph thing live anyway!


With all respect, I couldn't disagree more!  This is one thing that I'm more than happy to have my licence fee go towards, and can quite happily watch the whole ceremony.  I almost feel it a duty to either watch, or attend.  Each to their own though.  :)


I agree with you Tank and perhaps two minutes silence should be mandatory. Two minutes is not much to give in thought and respect just once a year for all those who died in wars.

H.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MinZaPint on November 11, 2012, 08:09:28 PM
Where's the thank you button on this thread, absolutely agree with Tank & H, didn't get to the Poole show until this afternoon this year but last year they observed the silence and to the credit of all they all stood in silence including the children. I went to Flanders this year, when you see all the headstones and go to the museum and the Menin Gate in Ypres where the names of 54,896 British & Commonwealth soldiers whose remains could not be found are recorded you would have to very heartless not to be moved.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on November 11, 2012, 08:10:52 PM
I'm not complaining about what was on BBC1, each to their own as you say and I know many would have watched the ceremony, licence fee well spent I say :) However . . .

Quote from: H on November 11, 2012, 07:51:12 PM
I agree with you Tank and perhaps two minutes silence should be mandatory. Two minutes is not much to give in thought and respect just once a year for all those who died in wars.

. . . NOTHING of this nature should be mandatory, we live in a democracy not a dictatorship ;) We should all have the choice to remember in our own way, not be told when and where. Personally I don't need to remain silent when told to to appreciate what was given so we can continue to enjoy that democracy  ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on November 11, 2012, 08:11:58 PM
Quote from: H on November 11, 2012, 07:51:12 PM
I agree with you Tank and perhaps two minutes silence should be mandatory. Two minutes is not much to give in thought and respect just once a year for all those who died in wars.

H.

Of course making it mandatory would

a) devalue it entirely
b) be a complete travesty of what they died for - freedom

Tutting and staring works far better.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on November 11, 2012, 08:19:15 PM
Quote from: MinZaPint on November 11, 2012, 08:09:28 PM
Where's the thank you button on this thread,

Good question actually, there don't appear to be any?  ???


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MinZaPint on November 11, 2012, 08:27:59 PM
Absolutely agree with EP  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: H on November 11, 2012, 08:29:31 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on November 11, 2012, 08:10:52 PM

. . . . not be told when and where. Personally I don't need to remain silent when told . . .   


The 'when' is in remembrance of when the guns fell silent at the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month - seems not much to honour the dead at that time with a little silent thought and reflection. It's not a matter of being told but demonstrating some civility and courtesy to others. Obviously we need to tut and stare at people like you who are noisy at that time.

H.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on November 11, 2012, 08:38:39 PM
One Thank You button restored  ;)

Surely if you are tutting and staring at noisy people, you are defeating the object  :doh:

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on November 11, 2012, 08:44:15 PM
My old office always rang a bell at 11.00, and anyone at work was REQUIRED to stop what they were doing and have two minutes silence. All phones were ignored, from a coupe of minutes before 11.00, and ignored if they rang. If you were stuck in a long phone conversation, you had to explain and put the phone down on the desk, and only carry on the conversation after the two minutes were up. No one complained, and everyone respected the silence.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 11, 2012, 09:04:20 PM
Even if I'm out in the car I always find somewhere to park up before 11 a.m., and I have observed I'm not alone in this. However, the one thing I think should be mandatory is respect for others point of view.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on November 12, 2012, 09:01:41 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on November 11, 2012, 05:23:12 PM
Was it shown live? If so maybe they should have started the race earlier to give everyone including riders, spectators etc the chance to stop and pay their respects too. Then again it's the BBC, they are a law unto themselves.
The race was in Valencia,don't think they have a Remembrance day in Spain.
Very much doubt they would have cut filming a football match off like that before a penalty shoot out.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: AndyGif on November 12, 2012, 09:20:47 AM
Quote from: Bikeracer on November 12, 2012, 09:01:41 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on November 11, 2012, 05:23:12 PM
Was it shown live? If so maybe they should have started the race earlier to give everyone including riders, spectators etc the chance to stop and pay their respects too. Then again it's the BBC, they are a law unto themselves.
The race was in Valencia,don't think they have a Remembrance day in Spain.
Very much doubt they would have cut filming a football match off like that before a penalty shoot out.

Allan
no spain dont do rememberance day for the world wars, as they didnt take part in either of them officially.
I guess they might do something for their civil war, but thats probably a very sore subject  still for a lot of spanniards.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on November 12, 2012, 09:27:32 PM
The race was shown in full from 13:00 on BBC, but when it had finished and the top runners interviewed, it switched to the red button for, presumably, more interviews and replays (I did not switch).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on November 12, 2012, 09:31:05 PM
Took my Mother to hospital for her skin cancer op this morning. Got home and fed the pooch and got my lunch. Half way through I got a call to pick her up. Drove back to the hospital and parked up. Went to Day Case Unit and she walked out - op not done as not serious enough (yet). Paid my £3 parking charge and drove her home. 50 miles worth of petrol and £3 car park all for nothing!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 12, 2012, 09:34:46 PM
Hi Kipper,

The problem was not with the MotoGP race but the Moto2 race.
IMHO the Moto3 and Moto2 on the red button are far more exciting than the 'main' race, especially as the grid contains nearly double the riders than in MotoGP and the skills/bikes are relatively equal. In Moto2 we saw Marc Marquez starting at the back of the grid and with 3 laps to go he was up to 2nd place and catching the leader quickly - then it cut off :censored:
I eventually saw on iPlayer that he won :claphappy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on November 12, 2012, 09:38:29 PM
Quote from: Kipper on November 12, 2012, 09:31:05 PM
Took my Mother to hospital for her skin cancer op this morning. .....Paid my £3 parking charge and drove her home. 50 miles worth of petrol and £3 car park all for nothing!

That's really annoying Kipper but I bet your mum was pleased you were with her depite the 'wasted' journey. Did a similar with my mum, years ago. Still miss her.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 12, 2012, 09:39:37 PM
Quote from: Kipper on November 12, 2012, 09:31:05 PM
Took my Mother to hospital for her skin cancer op this morning. Got home and fed the pooch and got my lunch. Half way through I got a call to pick her up. Drove back to the hospital and parked up. Went to Day Case Unit and she walked out - op not done as not serious enough (yet). Paid my £3 parking charge and drove her home. 50 miles worth of petrol and £3 car park all for nothing!

There has been much said in the media about hospital parking charges and the millions they are making. I guess initially it was done to try and prevent those silly sods who parked there and went shopping, but it has gone too far. Sorry to hear your Mum's op was postponed and hope things go better next time :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on November 12, 2012, 11:47:40 PM
Happily they abolished the parking charges in Wales, along with having no prescription costs. And despite the ranting over the border it *saves* money overall because we have a lot less serious expensive stuff to deal with because people attend their appointments and take their medication.

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on November 13, 2012, 03:35:03 PM
Annoyingly, she went to Nottingham City hospital, when she usually goes to Kingsmill at Mansfield, which is only a mile up the road from here. Also, next to Kingsmill is both a Morrisons supermarket and a big B&Q, which car parks can be used for 2 hours. Yet when she went for a pre-op at Queens at Nottingham, the first half hour was free - no standardisation within the same area.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on November 18, 2012, 05:38:36 AM
Pretty angry with myself actually, I haven't been booked for a driving offense since 1969  :angel: but last Thursday got booked doing 59km per hour in a 40km per hour zone, I was going home after having a rather large skin cancer cut out of my left hand and just had a lapse of concentration for a few moments  :doh: :doh:

The cost $220 au or 144 GB Pounds, not happy but not moaning either, only thing is its not the best time of the year to get slugged with a bill, with that kind off money I could have bought a couple more locos or something  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on November 18, 2012, 09:45:34 AM
Commiserations Dave.

I've avoided a ticket for about the same time as you. Not a cheap experience. Hope a horse or a lottery win comes up for you.

Hope also that your hand is sorted and there'll be no more problems.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on November 18, 2012, 09:53:29 AM
Getting stung for that amount of money at any time is not great, I also seem to relate what money I have to spend on other things with the buying of locos as well  :doh:

John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on November 18, 2012, 10:16:17 AM
Getting totally fed up with all these bleeding hearts you read about moaning about totally inconsequential matters when our boys and girls in the forces are facing real problems and dangers on a daily basis.  Some of folks really need to wake up and get to grips with the real world. :veryangry:

Dave really sorry to hear that, you would think the guy would give you a bit of a break given your situation, I trust it is not malignant.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on November 18, 2012, 10:23:19 AM
Quote from: Lawrence on November 18, 2012, 10:16:17 AM
Getting totally fed up with all these bleeding hearts you read about moaning about totally inconsequential matters when our boys and girls in the forces are facing real problems and dangers on a daily basis.  Some of folks really need to wake up and get to grips with the real world. :veryangry:

Dave really sorry to hear that, you would think the guy would give you a bit of a break given your situation, I trust it is not malignant.

Thanks Lawrence, had a couple of nasty ones cut out lately and have bookings for every Thursday up until Christmas to get others cut out, not to worried about it as its almost a national pastime for 60+ oldies here in Oz  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on November 18, 2012, 10:26:28 AM
At least you are in the right place Dave. They are used to those down under. A pal of mine had a melanoma on his back several years ago, and by the time he noticed it and the doctors had faffed about, it was too late to do anything.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on November 18, 2012, 10:52:05 AM
Hi Malc, I was talking to the skin doctor that removed the cancer on my hand last Thursday, he told me 1,800 people die in Oz from Melanoma's every year, he said most die because they don't have any symptoms and by the time it is diagnosed it is to late, sorry to hear about your friend.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: AndyGif on November 18, 2012, 12:32:14 PM
just lost 3 coupling springs to the great unknown trying to swap a hst power car out, though that is nothing compared to the last half dozen or so entries in this thread.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on November 18, 2012, 05:35:00 PM
Quote from: AndyGif on November 18, 2012, 12:32:14 PM
just lost 3 coupling springs to the great unknown trying to swap a hst power car out, though that is nothing compared to the last half dozen or so entries in this thread.

See the couplings and superglue thread
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on November 18, 2012, 10:07:50 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on November 18, 2012, 05:35:00 PM
Quote from: AndyGif on November 18, 2012, 12:32:14 PM
just lost 3 coupling springs to the great unknown trying to swap a hst power car out, though that is nothing compared to the last half dozen or so entries in this thread.

See the couplings and superglue thread

Yep, this one:- http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=6767.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=6767.0)  :thumbsup:


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: bigbear on November 18, 2012, 10:39:57 PM
Grah! An ebay buyer with feedback of 7, who buys a DVD from my auction last Sunday, finally pays on Friday afternoon and then emails me to ask where it is today.. Sunday... AND no way of leaving a comment about them on EBAY! Bah!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on November 18, 2012, 10:50:04 PM
Quote from: bigbear on November 18, 2012, 10:39:57 PM
Grah! An ebay buyer with feedback of 7, who buys a DVD from my auction last Sunday, finally pays on Friday afternoon and then emails me to ask where it is today.. Sunday... AND no way of leaving a comment about them on EBAY! Bah!

I would send him a very polite message through eBay explaining why he has not received his DVD yet and giving him some idea when he should expect delivery.

I have had four occasions this year where I have had to open a case against sellers and have bent over backwards to be polite in all my messages to them.  I won all four cases and  think it helps eBay come to a decision if you have been seen to try and help politely through sending messages.

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: bigbear on November 18, 2012, 10:53:41 PM
Yep, that's what I've done... Through gritted teeth!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Matthew-peter on November 19, 2012, 08:06:35 PM
FUUUUUUUUUUU

My uncle is at it again, sniping, burping, farting and tapping. grrrrrrrr  :veryangry:


Im sorry must go get a cuppa.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 19, 2012, 08:11:47 PM
Quote from: Matthew-peter on November 19, 2012, 08:06:35 PM

My uncle is at it again, sniping, burping, farting and tapping. grrrrrrrr  :veryangry:


It's what we oldies do, and it keeps us entertained. Learn to live with it :laugh3:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Matthew-peter on November 19, 2012, 08:13:39 PM
 :laughabovepost: It just smells reaaaally bad  :'( haha
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 19, 2012, 08:17:32 PM
Better an empty house than a bad tenant :moony:
Move along :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on November 19, 2012, 09:24:07 PM
Grumble. Another 'disintegrates in the water' Fox decal set to go back. I wish Fox would fix this  but unfortunately I don't know of any other Coronation Scot loco decals.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on November 21, 2012, 11:11:22 AM
 :worried: :doh:
Oh heck! Mrs JC has got fed up with the railway room being used just for storage over the last few months that she has set about
" Tidying it up" and not waiting till my breathing etc is good enough to start "playing trains" again.
:'( I shudder to think what little gems of scrap material are vanishing into the scrap sack and going out for the binmen  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on November 21, 2012, 11:17:03 AM
Quote from: jonclox on November 21, 2012, 11:11:22 AM
:'( I shudder to think what little gems of scrap material are vanishing into the scrap sack and going out for the binmen  :'( :'( :'(

Guaranteed to be the bits you know you did have and would be perfect for that next job you do  :help:

My deepest sympathies - John  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on November 21, 2012, 12:16:30 PM
Quote from: jonclox on November 21, 2012, 11:11:22 AM
:worried: :doh:
Oh heck! Mrs JC has got fed up with the railway room being used just for storage over the last few months that she has set about
" Tidying it up" and not waiting till my breathing etc is good enough to start "playing trains" again.
:'( I shudder to think what little gems of scrap material are vanishing into the scrap sack and going out for the binmen  :'( :'( :'(

You can start a new collection.

I have a scrap box for interesting scrap and oddments. When its full I throw most of it away. That keeps it under a bit more control, and I usually find by then its got 20+ short lengths of saved bits of wire in it and enough clear plastic packaging to build a model of the Shard so most of it can go.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 21, 2012, 07:02:45 PM
Quote from: jonclox on November 21, 2012, 11:11:22 AM

:'( I shudder to think what little gems of scrap material are vanishing into the scrap sack and going out for the binmen  :'( :'( :'(

Probably everything you were keeping in that 'safe' place :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on November 21, 2012, 07:13:01 PM
Quote from: jonclox on November 21, 2012, 11:11:22 AM
:worried: :doh:
Oh heck! Mrs JC has got fed up with the railway room being used just for storage over the last few months that she has set about
" Tidying it up" and not waiting till my breathing etc is good enough to start "playing trains" again.
:'( I shudder to think what little gems of scrap material are vanishing into the scrap sack and going out for the binmen  :'( :'( :'(

Oh dear thats no good, thank goodness I am a shed dweller  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 04, 2012, 09:52:31 PM
Just to show it's not only the ladies who like a good chomp on chocolate, I have noticed that whereas a well known supermarket used to sell a 230g bar of Cadburys for £1.97, they are charging the same price now for a 200g bar :censored:
One of them obviously thinks we're all stupid. There's nothing like a little 'back door' price increase. Grrrrrr!
(Chomp, Chomp)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on December 04, 2012, 10:08:48 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on December 04, 2012, 09:52:31 PM
One of them obviously thinks we're all stupid. There's nothing like a little 'back door' price increase. Grrrrrr!
(Chomp, Chomp)

I like the excuse for shrinking them all the chocolate companies have been using. Apparently its a 'healthy eating' change. I guess we should be glad it didn't turn into Galaxy Sprout ...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on December 04, 2012, 10:16:12 PM
Nobby, this sort of thing is almost as annoying as the seemingly new thing at Supermarkets of offering so called "special offers".

Example last week at the local big store starting with T:

6 finest sausages = £3.46 or on special 2 packets for £5.00.
Below that, packet of 12 of the same sausages for £4.56

:confused1:

I grow weary of standing their with my phone calculator working out if i am being taken for a mug!
Ok the sausages one didn't need a calculator, but some weight based offers fry my mind!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on December 05, 2012, 09:51:54 AM
My daughter moved in to her own flat last year and we still meet up every week to go food shopping, I am pleased to say I have taught her well, she can work out the bargains quicker than me now.  Her favourite thing is to use the shop scales to weigh pre packed stuff, tomatoes etc, does a quick bit of mental arithmetic to see how they stack up with the loose ones.  Every pound is a prisoner these days unfortunately  :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on December 05, 2012, 10:03:03 AM
Quote from: Lawrence on December 05, 2012, 09:51:54 AM
My daughter moved in to her own flat last year and we still meet up every week to go food shopping, I am pleased to say I have taught her well, she can work out the bargains quicker than me now.  Her favourite thing is to use the shop scales to weigh pre packed stuff, tomatoes etc, does a quick bit of mental arithmetic to see how they stack up with the loose ones.  Every pound is a prisoner these days unfortunately  :(

We had the devil in disguise for a maths teacher, he was despised by every pupil but at least we all came away being able to do mental arithmetic.  So the supermarket deals are a dawdle for me and I often point out to other shoppers going for "the special offer" the cheaper option on the shelf below.

I also usually solve the numbers game on Countdown before the clock is set off, however I am useless at the word part  :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: AndyGif on December 05, 2012, 10:14:20 AM
Quote from: scotsoft on December 05, 2012, 10:03:03 AM
I also usually solve the numbers game on Countdown before the clock is set off, however I am useless at the word part  :doh:
will have to change you nick to rainman and make sure your at home to watch wopner...... :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on December 05, 2012, 10:26:51 AM
Quote from: AndyGif on December 05, 2012, 10:14:20 AM
Quote from: scotsoft on December 05, 2012, 10:03:03 AM
I also usually solve the numbers game on Countdown before the clock is set off, however I am useless at the word part  :doh:
will have to change you nick to rainman and make sure your at home to watch wopner...... :beers:

wopner  ???

I managed to get npower but apart from that you have lost me  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Greybeema on December 05, 2012, 11:17:33 AM
Have that same Supermarket begining with T here.:-

Things to watch out for -


And YES we to have the shrinking packet syndrome.  Price stays the same but size reduces.....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: AndyGif on December 05, 2012, 11:19:23 AM
Quote from: scotsoft on December 05, 2012, 10:26:51 AM
Quote from: AndyGif on December 05, 2012, 10:14:20 AM
Quote from: scotsoft on December 05, 2012, 10:03:03 AM
I also usually solve the numbers game on Countdown before the clock is set off, however I am useless at the word part  :doh:
will have to change you nick to rainman and make sure your at home to watch wopner...... :beers:

wopner  ???

I managed to get npower but apart from that you have lost me  :hmmm:
you've not seen the film then... or atleast not payed any attention to whats going on during the road trip.

and npower is not a valid countdown word...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on December 05, 2012, 12:00:06 PM
Quote from: AndyGif on December 05, 2012, 11:19:23 AM
you've not seen the film then... or atleast not payed any attention to whats going on during the road trip.

and npower is not a valid countdown word...

I never go to the cinema and don't have any movie channels so I don't know what film you are making reference to  :confused2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 05, 2012, 12:53:53 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on December 05, 2012, 12:00:06 PM
Quote from: AndyGif on December 05, 2012, 11:19:23 AM
you've not seen the film then... or atleast not payed any attention to whats going on during the road trip.

and npower is not a valid countdown word...

I never go to the cinema and don't have any movie channels so I don't know what film you are making reference to  :confused2:

Hi John,

An excellent film - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rain_Man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rain_Man)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on December 05, 2012, 01:02:08 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on December 05, 2012, 12:53:53 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on December 05, 2012, 12:00:06 PM
I never go to the cinema and don't have any movie channels so I don't know what film you are making reference to  :confused2:

Hi John,
An excellent film - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rain_Man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rain_Man)

Thanks Mick,

I have seen the film Rainman on tv, but it is this "wopner" I have no idea about.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: polo2k on December 05, 2012, 02:07:33 PM
From a quick google, Wapner is the judge in Rain man.. alegedly
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Rabs on December 05, 2012, 04:31:22 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on December 04, 2012, 10:16:12 PM
Example last week at the local big store starting with T:

6 finest sausages = £3.46 or on special 2 packets for £5.00.
Below that, packet of 12 of the same sausages for £4.56

:confused1:

What, you didn't expect them to give you all that lovely extra packaging for free did you?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on December 05, 2012, 05:26:57 PM
lol, no I didn't, but I am still wondering why anybody would buy the two packets of 6. Aside from wanting to give two people a packet each for some reason. Even if you wanted to freeze 6 and use 6, you could just do what I do and take 6 out of the packet and freeze the rest.

Oh well, we live in a cynical world.

Another thing making me  :veryangry: today, Royal Mail.

Having attempted to post a parcel on Sunday, they put the standard red bit of card through my door. However, I went to the depot as instructed and they have lost it.

It was the last present I needed to wrap.

GAH!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on December 05, 2012, 06:05:23 PM
I had a similar experience with a fathers day gift,some money inside a card.Delivery was attempted and between the attempt and the local depot the card somehow got lost.
I vowed if it ever happened again I would report it to the police as a theft.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on December 05, 2012, 09:22:13 PM
I ordered some fresh kippers by post and parcel force tried to deliver but failed to make the morning appointment. I went to the depot and they said they may not be able to find them. I said "You have 10 mins to find them, then I'm off." he asked what it was. When I told him "kippers. If you can't find them now, you will in a few weeks time" They found them.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on December 05, 2012, 09:57:47 PM
Quote from: Malc on December 05, 2012, 09:22:13 PM
I ordered some fresh kippers by post and parcel force tried to deliver but failed to make the morning appointment. I went to the depot and they said they may not be able to find them. I said "You have 10 mins to find them, then I'm off." he asked what it was. When I told him "kippers. If you can't find them now, you will in a few weeks time" They found them.

:laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: Brilliant!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on December 06, 2012, 11:15:10 AM
I'm still waiting for my NGS inspection saloon that they say was posted to me last Thursday - a week ago.

The sad part is that if it's 'lost', I hear that there are no more maroon versions available, so I may not get one at all.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on December 06, 2012, 11:32:55 AM
Quote from: daveg on December 06, 2012, 11:15:10 AM
I'm still waiting for my NGS inspection saloon that they say was posted to me last Thursday - a week ago.

The sad part is that if it's 'lost', I hear that there are no more maroon versions available, so I may not get one at all.

Dave G

Phew! Just got here and it's a cracker.

One relieved and happy old geezer!  :claphappy:

Must tell Ray at the NGS shop.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 08, 2012, 08:51:59 AM
Well, I see it's time for the government's annual take the p**s out of pensioners, received my 'xmas bonus' last week, ten whole pounds !

I remember this being introduced, IIRC in the 70s or 80s, and my father-in-law saying that ten quid didn't get much, even then.

It's still the same now, no increase since it was first introduced.

I wish a few of the taxes etc, like fuel tax, we pay hadn't increased since the 70s/80s.

guess I'll have to blow it all and buy a wagon, though I'll probably have to put something to it  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: moogle on December 08, 2012, 10:07:12 AM
Quote from: class37025 on December 08, 2012, 08:51:59 AM
Well, I see it's time for the government's annual take the p**s out of pensioners, received my 'xmas bonus' last week, ten whole pounds !

I remember this being introduced, IIRC in the 70s or 80s, and my father-in-law saying that ten quid didn't get much, even then.

It's still the same now, no increase since it was first introduced.

I wish a few of the taxes etc, like fuel tax, we pay hadn't increased since the 70s/80s.

guess I'll have to blow it all and buy a wagon, though I'll probably have to put something to it  :veryangry:

Well unless they raise the retirement age to 80 or something stupid, I have a good 25 years to go and I bet it's still a tenner then!
Just think how much it would be if it had kept in line with inflation.  :unimpressed:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davidjhope on December 08, 2012, 03:10:25 PM
Quote from: daveg on December 06, 2012, 11:32:55 AM
Quote from: daveg on December 06, 2012, 11:15:10 AM
I'm still waiting for my NGS inspection saloon that they say was posted to me last Thursday - a week ago.

The sad part is that if it's 'lost', I hear that there are no more maroon versions available, so I may not get one at all.

Dave G

Phew! Just got here and it's a cracker.

One relieved and happy old geezer!  :claphappy:

Must tell Ray at the NGS shop.

Dave G
I'm still waiting for mine.
How long does it normally take for the ngs to post?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on December 08, 2012, 04:23:16 PM
Quote from: davidjhope on December 08, 2012, 03:10:25 PM
Quote from: daveg on December 06, 2012, 11:32:55 AM
Quote from: daveg on December 06, 2012, 11:15:10 AM
I'm still waiting for my NGS inspection saloon that they say was posted to me last Thursday - a week ago.

The sad part is that if it's 'lost', I hear that there are no more maroon versions available, so I may not get one at all.

Dave G

Phew! Just got here and it's a cracker.

One relieved and happy old geezer!  :claphappy:

Must tell Ray at the NGS shop.

Dave G
I'm still waiting for mine.
How long does it normally take for the ngs to post?

Mine took a full 7 days to get from Clacton the Sevenoaks. Hope yours arrives soon.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 08, 2012, 05:11:31 PM
Quote from: moogle on December 08, 2012, 10:07:12 AM
Quote from: class37025 on December 08, 2012, 08:51:59 AM
Well, I see it's time for the government's annual take the p**s out of pensioners, received my 'xmas bonus' last week, ten whole pounds !

I remember this being introduced, IIRC in the 70s or 80s, and my father-in-law saying that ten quid didn't get much, even then.

It's still the same now, no increase since it was first introduced.

I wish a few of the taxes etc, like fuel tax, we pay hadn't increased since the 70s/80s.

guess I'll have to blow it all and buy a wagon, though I'll probably have to put something to it  :veryangry:

Well unless they raise the retirement age to 80 or something stupid, I have a good 25 years to go and I bet it's still a tenner then!
Just think how much it would be if it had kept in line with inflation.  :unimpressed:

maybe up as much as a cl37, or 47  :claphappy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: kaiwhara on December 10, 2012, 09:28:50 PM
I start work in an hour and twenty minutes - theres no frigging water in our street!  :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

Just as well its only me to stink out in the cab, but even so...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on December 10, 2012, 09:44:20 PM
Quote from: kaiwhara on December 10, 2012, 09:28:50 PM
I start work in an hour and twenty minutes - theres no frigging water in our street!  :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

Just as well its only me to stink out in the cab, but even so...

What no mug of tea before work!! I think I'd be hopping mad too. 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: kaiwhara on December 10, 2012, 09:46:44 PM
Quote from: Jack9465 on December 10, 2012, 09:44:20 PM

What no mug of tea before work!! I think I'd be hopping mad too.

Luckily I had water in the Jug so i was able to have a cuppa, just can't have a shower!!!

Oh how embarrasing  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on December 10, 2012, 10:10:56 PM
Instead of whistling while at work you could always hum..... I'm sorry I'll get my coat :dighole:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 13, 2012, 09:14:07 PM
Very annoyed tonight to hear/see Natasha Kaplinski on the 6pm news say (and I'm not sure how to spell this) - burgalry.
It's burglary, dear woman, B-U-R-G-L-A-R-Y! :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GerryB on December 13, 2012, 09:29:47 PM
Couldn't agree more - makes you wonder what hope there is for our language when somebody in her position  :dunce: gets it so wrong.  :veryangry: 

Gerry
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on December 13, 2012, 11:04:05 PM
I found a blue postcard from the post office had been pushed through my letterbox today.
It turns out someone has sent me something with insufficient postage on it.
I have no idea what it is as I am expecting a few wins from eBay  :heart2:
Had to cough up £1.50 to have it delivered and that may take a few days  :veryangry:
This is going to niggle me till whatever it is arrives  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on December 14, 2012, 04:51:20 AM
It could be a Christmas card that exceeded the minimum thickness for that postage rate. Has happened to me on a few occasions - really annoying, paying postage and handling fee for something like that.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on December 14, 2012, 09:01:51 AM
Quote from: Pengy on December 14, 2012, 04:51:20 AM
It could be a Christmas card
It could be revenge for that   :censored:  :-X  :censored: joke !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on December 14, 2012, 09:13:50 AM
Quote from: scotsoft on December 13, 2012, 11:04:05 PM
I found a blue postcard from the post office had been pushed through my letterbox today.
It turns out someone has sent me something with insufficient postage on it.
I have no idea what it is as I am expecting a few wins from eBay  :heart2:
Had to cough up £1.50 to have it delivered and that may take a few days  :veryangry:
This is going to niggle me till whatever it is arrives  :hmmm:

I had exactly the same thing.  A card came through saying an envelope was 9p short, and I would have to pay £1.09.  I couldn't think what it was.  I wouldn't have minded so much if I could have handed the postman the money and would have been given my letter, but those days are long gone and I had to wait a couple of days.  It turned out to be my Class 207 cab ends from BH Enterprises.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: kaiwhara on December 14, 2012, 09:48:03 AM
The cynic on me makes me wonder why Postal Instutitions bother to deliver crap like that when the cost to produce and deliver said card probably costs more than the 9p or 20 cents they are after!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on December 14, 2012, 09:57:54 AM
Don't get me started about the Post Office. Spend 10 minutes in a queue and when I got to the counter, I was asked if I wanted a credit card, life assurance etc etc. when all I wanted was to post my parcel.

However, I've now been informed that selling credit cards and life assurance is now their core business. I now use a village post office (bit further away) so I don't get all this nonsense.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on December 14, 2012, 02:57:36 PM
Quote from: kaiwhara on December 14, 2012, 09:48:03 AM
The cynic on me makes me wonder why Postal Instutitions bother to deliver crap like that when the cost to produce and deliver said card probably costs more than the 9p or 20 cents they are after!!!

Because the changes to sizes etc came in around 3 years ago and people still just stick a first class stamp on anything and I'm not just talking about a few people! Eastborne sorting office receives over 150 items a day with insufficient postage. Sure some are 9p but many are far more. Multiply that over the country every day and it soon adds up. Where do you suggest the shortfall be cut off and, if for instance it is 5p, people would soon find out and send everything short of 5p. So, in short, even if the extra work it causes us doesn't cover 9p it does pay to recover our costs in the long term.
The worst culprits this time of year though are all those busy making home made cards adding multy layers and just assuming a 1st class stamp will do. The mother in law did it last year despite me warning her so the whole family had to pay for their own cards!
Gareth
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on December 14, 2012, 03:40:40 PM
The reason the original penny post was such a good idea was that it solved the problem of calculating how much post each type of letter needed. I don't think the big changes 3 years ago to make the post even more confusing were a good idea. I can see why the post office did it. First class post isn't profitable, but charging the amount needed for a one stamp for all sizes first class stamp to make a profit was probably too much of a jump. End result, worst of both worlds. Nobody knows what to stick on a letter and the price goes up anyway (and the Post Office is still losing money).

As a commercial entity, the postal service isn't that relevant nowadays when it's competing against services such as email that are free, faster and more reliable for the bulk of communications that used to make a simple letter post profitable. We still *need* a reliable postal service though as some stuff just needs to be physically mailed and isn't worth being couriered and some people still don't have internet access. Maybe it's like the railways in that it's a vital part of the UK infrastructure that shouldn't necessarily be there to make a profit (ie nationalise it).

On the Christmas card front, I'd simply make it a 1st class stamp for all Christmas cards (big or small) within a reasonable size & weight, just to remind people it's worth buying stamps. (I only seem to end up with Christmas stamps as I only buy about one pack a year).




Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on December 14, 2012, 04:34:22 PM
Our post seems to comprise of about 30% junk mail such as advertising flyers and letters addressed to "The Householder".

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on December 14, 2012, 05:38:13 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on December 14, 2012, 04:34:22 PM
Our post seems to comprise of about 30% junk mail such as advertising flyers and letters addressed to "The Householder".

Allan

Sadly this "helps" keep the cost of sending a letter at a "sensible" price. Part of the cost of opening up the postal system to all such as the German Bundaspost (DHL) et al., and electronic forms of mail. :( I hate to think what the cost would be without all the junk mail we get!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 14, 2012, 09:32:23 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on December 14, 2012, 04:34:22 PM
Our post seems to comprise of about 30% junk mail such as advertising flyers and letters addressed to "The Householder".

Allan

If it's addressed to the Householder and it has a return address, I just return it >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on December 14, 2012, 09:45:40 PM


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If it's addressed to the Householder and it has a return address, I just return it >:D
[/quote]
What you should do is see if it has a prepaid envelope in it and return that. It costs them money then!
Gareth
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 14, 2012, 09:50:28 PM
Quote from: thebrighton on December 14, 2012, 09:45:40 PM



If it's addressed to the Householder and it has a return address, I just return it >:D
[/quote]
What you should do is see if it has a prepaid envelope in it and return that. It costs them money then!
Gareth
[/quote]

As far as I know, if I just put it back in the post with 'Return to Sender' it costs them. That's why I do it :-X

On a separate note, I spent 9 lovely hours on our wonderful motorways today and then some bloke from BT calls me at 19.10hrs tonight. Poor bloke - I don't think he knew what hit him :veryangry: :veryangry: Let's just say he now has no head and a neck full of  :poop:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on December 14, 2012, 10:02:51 PM

[/quote]

As far as I know, if I just put it back in the post with 'Return to Sender' it costs them. That's why I do it :-X


[/quote]

No it doesn't; it just costs Royal Mail. It goes back in the postal system, the sorting machines read your address and it gets sent back to your delivery office again where the postie that delivers your post has to put a sticker on it saying why it is being returned to sender and it then goes back into another system to go back to the sender. If there is no return address on the envelope it goes to Belfast where they are opened to see if there is an address inside where it can be returned to. Unfortunately there is no machine that can pick up on a crossed through address and cut out this long winded method.
Furthermore as this doesn't cost the companies that send them they won't even bother to delete your address from mailings and continue to send you things.
Gareth
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 14, 2012, 10:05:31 PM
Dammit :veryangry:
Sorry, Gareth - I'll desist from now on and just fire it into the paper recycling bin
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on December 15, 2012, 10:14:53 AM
Most of the "to the householder" mail (with no other address) is a Royal Mail service to businesses that makes the Royal Mail more profit than their proper mail. You can block it with an opt out form that's hidden deep on the Royal Mail website that you have to print out and post to the Royal Mail, wait a few weeks, ring them to see why it's not working yet, print out and send another one in because they claim the previous one must have got lost in the post, follow up that one with a couple of calls until your local sorting office finally puts a mark on your box to tell them not to put hand delivered unaddressed mail in there for you and then do it all over again in 2 years when it runs out.

Or stuff it all in the nearest post box with "not at this address". The sooner the Post Office is banned from making money on posting litter through people's doors the better. It's a massive waste of sources, both in terms of material and fuel.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: red_death on December 15, 2012, 10:27:38 AM
Zwilnik - fair enough, though given that you accept it makes RM money, I hope you will be prepared to pay the higher postage charges (and not complain about those).

FWIW I think the RM is a pretty incredible service that has been poorly served by a succession of Govts. For pennies I can send a letter to anywhere in the UK. 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on December 15, 2012, 11:02:46 AM
For the very few letters I send I certainly wouldn't mind paying the proper amount for it to arrive reliably and quickly. At the moment that's £5 or so for special delivery as the PO can't even reliably deliver its own mail (for instance my change of address that got lost between the local post office and the office that applies it).

The big problem is for the many people who don't have access to current technology and rely on subsidised post. We might as well do it properly and nationalise the post office and subsidise it as a critical part of the infrastructure.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: kaiwhara on December 15, 2012, 11:07:44 AM
Bit down tonight. Put in an offer for a house we both really liked, we got beaten by a mere $500. Only chance we have now is to hope the other offer does not go unconditional in the next 5 days. Kinda makes me reluctant to want to list my current home now.  :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on December 15, 2012, 02:02:56 PM
Quote from: Zwilnik on December 15, 2012, 10:14:53 AM


The sooner the Post Office is banned from making money on posting litter through people's doors the better. It's a massive waste of sources, both in terms of material and fuel.

What good would that do? If we don't deliver it someone else will and at least you can opt out with Royal Mail.
Gareth
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on December 15, 2012, 02:05:26 PM
Quote from: Zwilnik on December 15, 2012, 11:02:46 AM


The big problem is for the many people who don't have access to current technology and rely on subsidised post. We might as well do it properly and nationalise the post office and subsidise it as a critical part of the infrastructure.

It is nationalised but even nationalised industries have to amke a profit nowadays as the EU doesn't allow subsidised companies competing with private ones. The CWU is fighting against us being privatised!
Gareth
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on December 15, 2012, 05:16:58 PM
I was out Thursday, and got a card through the door to collect a "package". Went to Sorting Office yesterday morning, with driving licence, passport and both great-grandparents as ID. What did I get - a ruddy home made Christmas card about an inch thick, and no stamp of any kind. And, the person who sent it I saw on Thursday! There will be one less on our card list for next year!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: H on December 15, 2012, 10:24:19 PM
Quote from: Zwilnik on December 15, 2012, 10:14:53 AM

The sooner the Post Office is banned from making money on posting litter through people's doors the better. It's a massive waste of sources, both in terms of material and fuel.


Why?

Oddly enough direct mail (targetted or otherwise), fliers and door drops do generate business and hence profit for companies (and generally British ones), so presumably some people find the contents of interest. But it also helps the economy, keeps people employed and contributes to tax revenues (as well as Mike has intimated keeping postage costs down).

Generally I just shovel it up from the doormat and put it in straight in to the paper recycling bin where it can be used by someone else to possibly make money.

H.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Chinahand on December 16, 2012, 12:03:31 AM
I was expecting my baseboards to be delivered from MRS this weekend but I got a phone call at 4 o'clock this afternoon to say they couldn't get mine on their delivery lorry so it will now be the end of next week.  >:( :veryangry: >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on December 16, 2012, 12:16:14 AM
That's got to be so frustrating!

Hope you can find stuff to distract you from the wait.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Chinahand on December 16, 2012, 01:35:56 AM
Not on the railway Dave. I had rushed to get all of the pre-wiring done ready for this weekend so now I'm totally banjaxed.  :'(

Nothing for it. I shall just have to put those shelves up in the garage and sort my tools out. :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on December 16, 2012, 11:15:42 AM
Quote from: H on December 15, 2012, 10:24:19 PM


Why?

Oddly enough direct mail (targetted or otherwise), fliers and door drops do generate business and hence profit for companies (and generally British ones), so presumably some people find the contents of interest. But it also helps the economy, keeps people employed and contributes to tax revenues (as well as Mike has intimated keeping postage costs down).

Generally I just shovel it up from the doormat and put it in straight in to the paper recycling bin where it can be used by someone else to possibly make money.

H.

Blind mail shots typically give a 1% return at best. So you waste 100 sheets of paper and all the energy required to print them and transport them just for one person being interested enough to contact you (not even a sale). So while business do make profits from this type of advertising (otherwise they wouldn't do it), it's incredibly wasteful. Even if you do recycle the postal litter, that's still a lot of energy and fresh paper wasted.

If we're serious as a country about meeting carbon targets etc. banning unaddressed mail or at least taxing it so that it's not profitable unless you're doing it very carefully would save millions of tons of waste each year. You wouldn't do a mail shot by dumping leaflets over a town from an aeroplane (which is actually more efficient as they're more visible), so why hand deliver the litter?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davidjhope on December 16, 2012, 07:21:36 PM
Still no Saloon from the N gauge Society.
Ordered it at the start of November.
Only reply was that they have a load of unopened orders
No help to me...

Getting worried

David
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on December 16, 2012, 08:33:51 PM
I had a similar worry when my order seemed to take an age, but worth waiting for.

I am sure yours will reach you but they do seem to be up to their necks with orders. Must be frantic for them.

Dave G


Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on December 17, 2012, 08:20:53 AM
Just learned that my 93 year old dad has fallen out of bed and is in Watford Gen A&E with cuts and bruises.

My sis there with him is told it will be 7 hours before he can see a doctor. I'm driving up there to keep her sane.

Polite words fail me so   :veryangry:  :veryangry:  :veryangry:  :veryangry:  :veryangry:

Dave G



Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on December 17, 2012, 08:43:20 AM
Oh Dave it is terrible that he managed to fall out of bed but the fact that he cant see a doctor for seven hours is beyond comprehension.

I hope your Dad will be OK and our thoughts are with him, your family and yourself.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Chinahand on December 17, 2012, 08:54:49 AM
That's not good Dave. I thougt there was some sort of NHS obligation to see all emergency patients within 4 hours.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: AndyGif on December 17, 2012, 11:36:29 AM
think the rules currently are they have 4 hours to asses you before they breach.

by assess i think they mean have a nurse look at you and decide your not dead yet and can wait until a tired non english speaking doctor can look at you.

if your lucky they send you to their CDU or clinical decisions unit which is nhs speak for we've not got a clue whats wrong with you yet, but if we put you in here you dont count as waiting any more....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Chinahand on December 17, 2012, 11:41:44 AM
Hmmm. Sounds as though the hospital is not up to scratch. My experience at Nothampton General have been excellent. I was referred to them with a suspected DVT and was seen immediately on arrival. Ultra sound scan done within half an hour, diagnosis confirmed and drugs administered all within an hour.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on December 17, 2012, 02:15:10 PM
It's amazing really that as a nation we accept the '4 hour' rule.  Shameful in fact.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on December 17, 2012, 10:34:35 PM
Interesting comments and thanks for the kind wishes which I have shared with aged parent.
Just to round off and close the story:

I arrived at Watford around 10:15.

11:00 ish From A&E we did get moved to CDU, but via a corridor as there was no room and a 'blue light was incoming and they needed the space. Dad had seen a very kind and sympathetic senior nurse who did the initial assessment.

13:00 A top up of the car park fee of £4 (running total £8) and a visit from the OT and Physio to check that my dad is almost completely immobile due to ulcerated legs.

No lunch - kitchen 'forgot' to deliver hot food to A&E so a sandwich offered to patient.

Visit from social worker who said that it would be up to docs to decide best course of future care.

16:00 Another £4 to keep the NHS carpark in funds. £12 parking. No option as double yellows for half a mile around the hospital next to the football ground.

17:30 ish. 'Will you be feeding my dad? He has been here since just after 07:00 this morning.' 'I'll chase it up.' It arrives 15/20 mins later after being told his choice of supper wasn't available. The alternative was cold and inedible.

18:35: First visit of a doctor who told us she'd been called to see dad 'just 5 minutes before I got here.'

We left him, all of us exhausted, around 19:15 in CDU still awaiting a visit from a consultant to decide which ward he may land up in. We have to call tomorrow morning.

Impressive, eh?

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on December 18, 2012, 12:21:05 AM
Along the same lines as far as parents injuring themselves goes I found out yesterday that my 74 year old mother had managed to fall over at 'work', she does a bit for a charity shop on Saturday. Sister took her to A&E where they looked at her wrist which she said hurt and found it was broken. For whatever reason they couldn't set it until today, apparently it was an 'impact fracture' which ended up with the 2 pieces of bone alongside each other.
She then complained yesterday that her other wrist hurt. Off to A&E again and you've guessed it, she has broken that too!
So, off to hospital today (Monday) to have one set and put into a full cast and the other splinted and put in a 'half-cast'. Looks like my sister will be cooking her Christmas dinner this year then.

I hope your dad gets better soon Dave, it must be a bit of a worry at your dad's age.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davidjhope on December 19, 2012, 04:07:45 PM
Quote from: davidjhope on December 16, 2012, 07:21:36 PM
Still no Saloon from the N gauge Society.
Ordered it at the start of November.
Only reply was that they have a load of unopened orders
No help to me...

Getting worried

David
Confirmation that it was posted yesterday.
Now more waiting
fingers crossed
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on December 19, 2012, 04:51:46 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on December 13, 2012, 11:04:05 PM
I found a blue postcard from the post office had been pushed through my letterbox today.
It turns out someone has sent me something with insufficient postage on it.
I have no idea what it is as I am expecting a few wins from eBay  :heart2:
Had to cough up £1.50 to have it delivered and that may take a few days  :veryangry:
This is going to niggle me till whatever it is arrives  :hmmm:

The offending post arrived today and the sender had forgotten to put a stamp on it which I cannot be angry about as I have done that myself, it is easily done when sticking stamps on a pile of cards.

So there are no bad feelings as getting the card shows that someone cared enough to think of me.
(perhaps I should have posted this in the Happy Thread)

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on December 19, 2012, 07:41:16 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on December 19, 2012, 04:51:46 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on December 13, 2012, 11:04:05 PM
I found a blue postcard from the post office had been pushed through my letterbox today.
It turns out someone has sent me something with insufficient postage on it.
I have no idea what it is as I am expecting a few wins from eBay  :heart2:
Had to cough up £1.50 to have it delivered and that may take a few days  :veryangry:
This is going to niggle me till whatever it is arrives  :hmmm:

The offending post arrived today and the sender had forgotten to put a stamp on it which I cannot be angry about as I have done that myself, it is easily done when sticking stamps on a pile of cards.

So there are no bad feelings as getting the card shows that someone cared enough to think of me.
(perhaps I should have posted this in the Happy Thread)

cheers John.

Cant figure that one out John  ??? why would you want to be Happy when its more fun being Angry  :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on December 19, 2012, 10:09:23 PM
Quote from: daveg on December 17, 2012, 10:34:35 PM
16:00 Another £4 to keep the NHS carpark in funds. £12 parking. No option as double yellows for half a mile around the hospital next to the football ground.

Thats a disgrace - I hadn't realised the English hospitals still do this - the Welsh assembly banned them from scams like that in Wales some time back and it doesn't seem to have caused any problems.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on December 20, 2012, 09:09:30 AM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on December 19, 2012, 10:09:23 PM

Thats a disgrace - I hadn't realised the English hospitals still do this - the Welsh assembly banned them from scams like that in Wales some time back and it doesn't seem to have caused any problems.

My local NHS also charges for disabled parking bays as well.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: 1936ace on December 20, 2012, 09:19:17 AM
Parking fees at hospitals is a joke. And sometimes as we have read here you don't know how long you could be and then they fine you for over staying. Our local hospital is a district hospital and you have to pay and the big one in Newcastle, the John hunter is very expensive. My wife is a reg nurse and she even had to pay when she worked there total madness. Not sure what's worse the $5 per hour or the risk of a $125 fine
Bart
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on December 20, 2012, 03:47:57 PM
Blood boiling over the Hospital parking charges. Mrs H was admitted to Hampstead Hospital about 8 years ago with a  brain haemorrhage and my waiting for the outcome was not helped by the fact that I had to keep going outside to buy extra parking Pay & display tickets for fear of being clamped. This was getting on for midnight ! Operation well lets guess how much to pay in advance.... :veryangry:

Lat experience was somewhat better, Bath Hospital last month taking my Mum for a check up, at least they have barrier controlled car paks and you pay when you leave.

Here in Italy our local Hospitals not only let you park for fre they even have sheltered parking , keeps the rain off in winter and stops your car boiling in summer.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: H on December 20, 2012, 06:17:05 PM
Yep, parking fees at hospitals are a pain, but a couple of things in mittigation;

When I had to have a series of regular treatments (3 times a week over several months) they provided a free parking pass (to activate the barriers) to attend. Also if you are kept in as an in-patient (rather than just attending as an out-patient appointment) they tell you not to worry, take your registration and advise the security people accordingly. Mind you they're never too happy to let you drive after an operation.

H.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on December 20, 2012, 07:27:18 PM
The hospitals around here (which I frequent on a regular basis), usually charge around £3 an hour. I was pleasantly surprised on my last visit - not only did I get seen almost immediately, but when I got back to the pay machine, I had been less than half an hour and the parking was free. Good job I hadn't stopped for a Costa coffee.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on December 20, 2012, 07:35:16 PM
Quote from: H on December 20, 2012, 06:17:05 PM
Yep, parking fees at hospitals are a pain, but a couple of things in mittigation;

When I had to have a series of regular treatments (3 times a week over several months) they provided a free parking pass (to activate the barriers) to attend. Also if you are kept in as an in-patient (rather than just attending as an out-patient appointment) they tell you not to worry, take your registration and advise the security people accordingly. Mind you they're never too happy to let you drive after an operation.

H.

I broke my cheekbone a while back and had to have regular visits to the RUH in Bath including someone taking me there for the op to put it right and picking me up after. I then claimed all the costs back from them. Try it, it's worth a go.

The wife is a nurse in Swindon and she has to pay £1 per day but can only do that 6 times every 2 weeks. She then has to pay the full rate. Luckily she only works 3 days per week normally.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on December 20, 2012, 07:41:43 PM
Quote from: Kipper on December 20, 2012, 07:27:18 PM
Good job I hadn't stopped for a Costa coffee.

There is another total ripoff  :veryangry:

I make a fresh pot of coffee before I leave, fill my flask, which holds just under 1 pint, it is well over 40 years old and still keeps the coffee hot  ;)

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davidjhope on December 21, 2012, 07:26:54 PM
Quote from: davidjhope on December 19, 2012, 04:07:45 PM
Quote from: davidjhope on December 16, 2012, 07:21:36 PM
Still no Saloon from the N gauge Society.
Ordered it at the start of November.
Only reply was that they have a load of unopened orders
No help to me...

Getting worried

David
Confirmation that it was posted yesterday.
Now more waiting
fingers crossed
:claphappy:
Arrived this morning (I think) This is because I have given the parcel to my wife to wrap for Christmas.
I'm so excited
:NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on December 21, 2012, 09:03:12 PM
Quote from: davidjhope on December 21, 2012, 07:26:54 PM
Quote from: davidjhope on December 19, 2012, 04:07:45 PM
Quote from: davidjhope on December 16, 2012, 07:21:36 PM
Still no Saloon from the N gauge Society.
Ordered it at the start of November.
Only reply was that they have a load of unopened orders
No help to me...

Getting worried

David
Confirmation that it was posted yesterday.
Now more waiting
fingers crossed
:claphappy:
Arrived this morning (I think) This is because I have given the parcel to my wife to wrap for Christmas.
I'm so excited
:NGaugersRule:

Excellent!  :D

Happy days ahead.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on December 21, 2012, 09:15:14 PM
Grrr... playing circular games of silly buggers with my employers support and HR people (who appear to be on the far side of the globe and only exist via a web form). Finally got sufficiently annoyed with them to explain either they give me the tax info I need or I do it the hard way and the company data protection officer gets a free headache.

The answer to "my accountant thinks you've got a tax deduction wrong" is not "all the necessary information is on the intranet"
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 21, 2012, 09:17:26 PM
in to work tonight to be told that 9% of us are being made redundant, winners being told monday.

merry ******* xmas ! :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on December 21, 2012, 09:20:07 PM
Quote from: class37025 on December 21, 2012, 09:17:26 PM
in to work tonight to be told that 9% of us are being made redundant, winners being told monday.

merry ******* xmas ! :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

Sorry to hear that, makes wanting to (metaphorically) strangle the HR department seem rather minor. Good luck for Monday.

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 21, 2012, 09:23:45 PM
cheers EP, hopefully night shift will be safe, as they can't cut our manning levels any more, and as I understand it you don't make the person redundant, but the post, so if any of us got the chop that should mean they couldn't put someone else on nights instead doing the same job.

mind you, since when did firms obey the law ?

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 21, 2012, 09:30:12 PM
Not that any timing for redundancies is right, but Christmas Eve really sucks.
Good luck from someone who's been there :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on December 21, 2012, 10:40:01 PM
We have been under threat of closure for two and a half years now, not a comfortable position to be in so I can empathise with you.

Maybe, one day, the MOD will make their ******* minds up and actually make a decision based on actual security requirements rather than penny pinching  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 21, 2012, 10:57:49 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on December 21, 2012, 10:40:01 PM
Maybe, one day, the MOD will make their ******* minds up and actually make a decision based on actual security requirements rather than penny pinching  :veryangry:

steady on there, you'll be expecting them to get value for money next !

I'm surprised they haven't decided, in view of the increased number of noise complaints at Brize now that the Hercs are there, that they haven't come up with the idea of putting them on the new carriers that haven't got any aircraft !

or perhaps that is in the pipeline  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on December 21, 2012, 11:39:48 PM
Might as well use them as stores - by the time they are commissioned they will be obsoleted by drones anyway and all you'll need is to throw them out of a submarine and dive again.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on December 22, 2012, 08:03:03 AM
'Have yourself a Merry little Christmas'. I hate this song!! :thumbsdown:  It  seems to be on the radio, TV, everywhere with some artiste trying to win the competition for the schmaltziest, corniest, slushiest, gooiest, most puke inducing song ever :sick:

Bring back the Darkness!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on December 22, 2012, 08:36:04 AM
Having been made redundant 8 times in a 'career' that lasted from 1964 to 2011, I have more than sympathy for those that are facing such a prospect.

Good luck and may the fates be kind to you all.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on December 22, 2012, 11:37:00 AM
Quote from: class37025 on December 21, 2012, 10:57:49 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on December 21, 2012, 10:40:01 PM
Maybe, one day, the MOD will make their ******* minds up and actually make a decision based on actual security requirements rather than penny pinching  :veryangry:

steady on there, you'll be expecting them to get value for money next !

I'm surprised they haven't decided, in view of the increased number of noise complaints at Brize now that the Hercs are there, 

Sure the folks of Lyneham would welcome them back ! Seriously !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on December 22, 2012, 12:00:58 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on December 22, 2012, 11:37:00 AM
Quote from: class37025 on December 21, 2012, 10:57:49 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on December 21, 2012, 10:40:01 PM
Maybe, one day, the MOD will make their ******* minds up and actually make a decision based on actual security requirements rather than penny pinching  :veryangry:

steady on there, you'll be expecting them to get value for money next !

I'm surprised they haven't decided, in view of the increased number of noise complaints at Brize now that the Hercs are there, 

Sure the folks of Lyneham would welcome them back ! Seriously !

Not so much Lyneham Jerry, there's not much there as I recall, but certainly placed like R W Bassett, Calne, Chippenham and some of the smaller hamlets will certainly be missing the buzz around the old beehive.
About the only things that never get cut are the amount of hangers on in the MOD & Civil service in central government time for cuts on bureaucracy methinks.  No politician is feeling the squeeze either and most of them are not fit for purpose anyway so lets cut them too, if I work away from home I have to pay my own way, not get the public to pay for it, anyway surely they could do PMQs on Skype now  ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on December 22, 2012, 12:20:52 PM
Definitely bring the Hercs back to Lyneham where they belong. Living in Devizes we used to see them a lot and in a strange kind of way we miss them. The noise was never an issue, let's face it the planet is a lot noisier these days anyway so a few Hercs doesn't matter and personally I think it's quite a relaxing sound but then maybe I'm a bit weird. They also kept a lot of local people employed in the area as Lawrence said, add Devizes, Trowbridge, Melksham and Swindon to your list mate. We used to see them fly over the golf course and would stop and admire the sheer beauty and size of these monsters effortlessly cruising past at a low altitude.
Yes, if the people of Brize Norton and the surrounding areas don't like it then we'd take them back tomorrow, today even.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on December 22, 2012, 07:30:55 PM
I see Tesco have hired a Herc to get supplies up to the Scottish Islands because the ferries can't hack the weather we are getting  :D only the MOD could say these wonderful aircraft are past it  ::) muppets!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on December 25, 2012, 08:01:03 AM
Great what timing all electric house abd now a power cut.  no kettle for a coffee to wake me up properly. cold xmas dinner may be on the cards yet.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on December 25, 2012, 08:19:53 AM
Quote from: Oldman on December 25, 2012, 08:01:03 AM
Great what timing all electric house abd now a power cut.  no kettle for a coffee to wake me up properly. cold xmas dinner may be on the cards yet.

That is rotten luck - hope they get the power back soon.

It had started to ease up here but now another heavy downpour - luckily I'm not in one of the flood danger areas but you wonder how much rain the ground will take.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on December 25, 2012, 09:26:30 AM
We have power etc and are not flooded but looking across at the field behind us I can say a vey slight pond growing on its surface.......that means that when it gets to about 3" deep we can expect our road to start early stages of flooding :worried: and its still raining  :uneasy:

Modified to say that now(10 minutes later) its stopped raining and tinges of blue sky showing through)  :claphappy: :claphappy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on December 30, 2012, 09:45:51 AM
I avoid a certain PC shop like the plague. Not going to name them but 'World' comes into their name somewhere.
On very rare occasions when I know exactly what I am looking for I will go to them,pay their OTT prices and get out the door without having to explain to the pet monkey who tried to serve me that I was OK and knew what I wzas after etc. etc.
In despiration to get sons PC up and running again after it being **cked all over Christmas we went down to the shop, money in hand and exact motherboard model number in hand. In despiration Mrs JC asked where abouts the motherboards etc were to be told by 'a manager' that they no longer stocked such items as they were rather techie for the staff to sell  :doh:.
He then quoted a whole range of components that PC Ripoff ***ld no longer stocked but if we took the whole PC in they would send it away and get it all sorted out and working for us  >:(
Son seeing that I was about to explode wisely rushed my wheelchair out of the store.
What a waste of space that place is now....you have been warned
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on December 30, 2012, 11:33:22 AM
What do you expect for Currys though ?

I won't cry when this chain follows Comet ... and Dixons ...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 30, 2012, 02:57:09 PM
There would be an awful lot of employees who'd be crying, though.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Paul B on December 30, 2012, 03:56:35 PM
Maybe I was just lucky then?

Last year, after discovering that the graphics board on my old computer wouldn't cope with the Railworks Train Simulator I had got for Christmas, SWMBO and I went to 'the unmentionable shop', with the intention of getting my PC a new graphics board, and looking for a new PC for her (her 7 year old PC would no longer cope with photo editing.)

Looking at the components, we settled on the board that would get my PC working OK - but the cost was rather high for a PC that was 3 years old anyway. "Well why don't you just buy a new PC for yourself - and I can have your old one, as it is better than mine?" she said. "What a great idea!" I agreed - so we looked around, and found something suitable, which would work out cheaper than my original plan too!

Although they tried selling me extra bits ("No I have a monitor - and anti-virus software - and a back-up drive, thank-you.") I came out with just the PC tower, and it has now given me nearly a year of hassle-free computing. And I am not a 'techie-type' but can at least "usually" get computers to do what I want them to do!

...and SWMBO is very happy with my old PC, as it works better than her old one and the graphics card is up to her photo editing software!

Although they do usually say that if something is due to go wrong it will be just outside the first year guarantee don't they???  :worried:  But, if it does go wrong, I won't take it back there for them to repair - I have had tooo many horror stories about that!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on December 30, 2012, 05:26:54 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on December 30, 2012, 02:57:09 PM
There would be an awful lot of employees who'd be crying, though.

Indeed, as they would all have to retrain to become computer salespeople  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on December 30, 2012, 07:50:06 PM
I have been having trouble with my Macbook today, with the cursor flying all over the shop. Thought someone had taken over remotely, then realised that my Christmas expanded stomach was pressing down on the trackpad. Must remember not to slouch when using a laptop (or lose some weight!!!).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on December 30, 2012, 07:57:06 PM
Quote from: Kipper on December 30, 2012, 07:50:06 PM
I have been having trouble with my Macbook today, with the cursor flying all over the shop. Thought someone had taken over remotely, then realised that my Christmas expanded stomach was pressing down on the trackpad. Must remember not to slouch when using a laptop (or lose some weight!!!).

:laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on December 30, 2012, 08:00:29 PM
Do we have the first forum diet starting here?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on December 30, 2012, 08:06:32 PM
Quote from: Oldman on December 30, 2012, 08:00:29 PM
Do we have the first forum diet starting here?

Diet of Worms!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on December 30, 2012, 08:43:19 PM
Just a we bit upset about electricity companies here in Oz, our electricity bills have almost doubled over the past 12 to 18 months, we had a very hot day 38C last week and the electricity companies had the audacity to tell us that due to the high demand for power there may be some areas blacked out.

I really would like to know what they do with the money they have been ripping out of us for the past few years.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on January 01, 2013, 03:54:33 PM
 :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:
Festive season - did as told and packed away the train stuff.
Am now bored and want to do some bits and pieces -can't find the boxes with the bits I'm looking for.
:confused1: :scowl: :thumbsdown:
At this rate I may have to look at investing in some more PCB sleepers and hand building the track I need. At least it would mean one of our traders would have a sale for a track roller gauge. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on January 01, 2013, 07:45:31 PM
Quote from: Oldman on December 30, 2012, 08:00:29 PM
Do we have the first forum diet starting here?

The diet (and not of Worms, thank you - but good historical input!) will start some time in January, once the sideboard is empty of nuts and dates and chocolates...... :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on January 04, 2013, 07:43:08 AM
Why did the various N gauge manufacturer's choose to have different scales (e.g. 1:148, 1:160, 1:150). It is a nightmare for buildings, cars, trains and other bits and bobs.

They should all have adopted 1:160  >:D (now there's a provocative statement to liven up a dull and grey January Friday)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on January 04, 2013, 07:52:31 AM
Great question Jane hope someone can answer it because I would also like to know.

Sounds like the argument over why OO Gauge runs on HO track or why wasn't British model railways made like the rest of the world in HO gauge.

I agree it can be a real pain when N Gauge is made in several different sizes and at times a mixture can look quite odd on a layout, I think more so with structures rather than trains.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on January 04, 2013, 07:57:26 AM
Shamelessly nicked from Wikipedia, sounds feasible, hope it's right ;)

"When N gauge was developed it proved impossible to fit the then available motors into scale models of British prototype locomotives. British railways use a smaller loading gauge than those in Europe and America, resulting in smaller locomotives. A greater body size was required on the models to accommodate the motors, so instead of adopting the correct 1:160 scale, 1:148 was used. This allows larger models, but means that the gauge is not an accurate representation of standard gauge. "


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on January 04, 2013, 08:00:04 AM
What is ridiculous is that Kato make 1:150 buildings and yet their bullet trains are 1:160!

I'm in a real muddle now as I now have more 1:160 trains and the buildings are 1:150. I use Kato/Tomix buildings because they are modern and a lot cheaper than the continental ones.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on January 04, 2013, 09:23:50 AM
Quote from: Pengy on January 04, 2013, 08:00:04 AM
What is ridiculous is that Kato make 1:150 buildings and yet their bullet trains are 1:160!

The 1:150 buildings are designed to fit in with Japanese standard-gauge trains that are also 1:150. Shinkansen trains have a wider loading gauge than standard, so if Kato built them at 1:150 they'd hit your platforms and fall over ;) So they built them to 1:160 instead to fit inside the usual N gauge width limits.


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Chinahand on January 04, 2013, 09:34:34 AM
I think you'll find that the reason for all the different scales is historical and, in the case of British N Gauge is closely linked to the way 00 versus H0 came about. It basically stemmed from the size of motors available which, in turn, dictated how big the model had to be to get a motor in.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on January 04, 2013, 09:38:46 AM
Thanks, maybe life is simpler in T gauge

(I'm not thinking of changing though)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on January 04, 2013, 09:54:38 AM
No - Japanese T is 1:450, European T is generally 1:480 so as to have a correct track gauge.

Japanese N is a real hack job anyway - they should be running on Z track.

They should have used 1:160 for the  UK. The rest of the world managed fine but we have another typical British botch job and one that is going to get *very* annoying as the same stock begins to routinely crisscross Europe.

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on January 04, 2013, 09:55:52 AM
First topic I have read this morning after logging in and after reading through the posts I have learned quite a bit, what an excellent start to the day.

Thank you my friends for the enlightenment  :)

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: 1936ace on January 04, 2013, 09:59:30 AM
Quote from: longbridge on December 30, 2012, 08:43:19 PM
Just a we bit upset about electricity companies here in Oz, our electricity bills have almost doubled over the past 12 to 18 months, we had a very hot day 38C last week and the electricity companies had the audacity to tell us that due to the high demand for power there may be some areas blacked out.

I really would like to know what they do with the money they have been ripping out of us for the past few years.

Yes it is certainly a joke. My bill for the last three months months was just over $600 for power and gas which was ok I thought considering we have two homes on our property and have pool and spa but I got back around $320 in solar regen so it was not too bad in the end.
Still a complete rip off
Bart
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on January 04, 2013, 11:32:51 AM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on January 04, 2013, 09:54:38 AM
No - Japanese T is 1:450, European T is generally 1:480 so as to have a correct track gauge.

Japanese N is a real hack job anyway - they should be running on Z track.

They should have used 1:160 for the  UK. The rest of the world managed fine but we have another typical British botch job and one that is going to get *very* annoying as the same stock begins to routinely crisscross Europe.

Alan

I didn't know that about T gauge but look at this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3qy4fcyTx8&feature=em-uploademail (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3qy4fcyTx8&feature=em-uploademail)

It is hard to believe it is T (although the rear lights are a bit bright) - in the angry thread because I'd like one but definitely cannot afford it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on January 04, 2013, 03:47:59 PM
It is T - its been promised for sale forever but still afaik isn't released.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on January 04, 2013, 06:10:57 PM
Not sure who I'm more cross with:
Daft drivers who totally ignore the motorway hazard speed indicators – e.g. the old fashioned square ones on the M2 – or the folk who forget to switch them off once the 'hazard' has been cleared.  :veryangry:

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on January 04, 2013, 08:20:40 PM
I drove round the M25 just before Christmas, in the pouring rain with loads of spray, and the speed limit showed 40, which I kept to, but I was the slowest car out that evening. Do all the locals know which cameras have film in them?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on January 04, 2013, 11:01:51 PM
Quote from: Kipper on January 04, 2013, 08:20:40 PM
I drove round the M25 just before Christmas, in the pouring rain with loads of spray, and the speed limit showed 40, which I kept to, but I was the slowest car out that evening. Do all the locals know which cameras have film in them?

I don't think they are film based anymore. Believe they are mostly digital with remote downlaod abilities. I'm sure someone can confirm or correct me on this.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on January 04, 2013, 11:40:27 PM
They've been digital for around 4 years now on the M25. There are also plenty of average speed cameras. I do apologise, as the police will tell you, they're NOT speed cameras, they're safety cameras.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 04, 2013, 11:40:58 PM
The topic of digital motorway signs and variable speed limits is one that confuses and annoys me.

Firstly nobody ever seems to pay them any attention, or if people do (mainly on certain parts on the M25 and M6 where the threat of speed cameras linked to them exists), it seems to be the lower speed limit itself causing the traffic.

Secondly, the ones that delivery messages as well as lower speed limits (the M4 is good for this). The only time anything ever said on these seems to link to reality is when

a) There is an obvious traffic jam 400 yards or so ahead
b) There is a bit of fog (and then all that happens if people put on their fog lights and leave them on for the rest of time).

The occasion that sticks in my mind is one drive from London to Bristol not too long ago. I was suddenly presented with a flashing sign saying:

"20 MPH Oncoming Traffic"  :confused1:

The next 10 or so signs said the same thing. I was quite concerned, but appeared to be the only person backing off even slightly. Mile after mile I was waiting for a mad man coming at me on the wrong side of the motorway. Nothing.

Now, surely this is a really dangerous situation? Crying wolf in the extreme?! One day something bad will happen on a motorway because people ignore a warning they have seen twenty times before where it proved false, only for one occasion it to be real.

???

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 04, 2013, 11:55:17 PM
they recently put message signs, which of course involved long delaying roadworks and lane closures, on the A23 as you approach Brighton. best I've seen so far was to advise delays on A27 after the A3, ie at Havant, but nothing about either the accident collision about half a mile down the A23, or the one about a mile along the A27 towards Havant, which is about 45 miles from Brighton !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on January 05, 2013, 01:19:20 AM
I was on the A27 last weekend heading Eastbound and the signs kept saying "Delays after A26 junction". Not a lot of use to me as I had no idea where the A26 was! I went as far as Lewes and saw no delays so I guess the A26 was further on. Surely it would be better to say "Delays 10 miles ahead" or whatever. I can then look at my satnav and if it says more than 10 miles before I turn off then I turn off early to avoid the delays.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on January 05, 2013, 10:01:29 AM
As a fairly frequent user of the M25 and now based in Sevenoaks - I spent 5 months driving between Watford and Sevenoaks each day - I use the Traffic England website in an attempt to avoid problems. http://www.trafficengland.co.uk/index.aspx?ct=true (http://www.trafficengland.co.uk/index.aspx?ct=true)

The site is useful as a check for major problems just before a journey and there is a page where you can add comments re the motorway info.

Agree with TF that if the hazard warnings were more focused on their location it would help but suspect they aren't that 'clever'. Having said that, they can and do say stuff like "queue after junction".

Stay safe wherever you go!

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 05, 2013, 02:57:02 PM
I've lost count of the times I have seen the matrix signs stating "FOG" when you can actually see for miles on a bright sunny day :confused1:

Recently there have been a lot of them stating "Salt spreading".
Have I ever seen it being done? :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on January 05, 2013, 03:53:13 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on January 05, 2013, 02:57:02 PM
Recently there have been a lot of them stating "Salt spreading".
Have I ever seen it being done? :no:

This usually happens to me when I'm eating my lunch while driving. It's not easy to eat a bag of crisps without that happening! Usually all over my new, clean trousers  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on January 05, 2013, 04:38:47 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on January 05, 2013, 03:53:13 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on January 05, 2013, 02:57:02 PM
Recently there have been a lot of them stating "Salt spreading".
Have I ever seen it being done? :no:

This usually happens to me when I'm eating my lunch while driving. It's not easy to eat a bag of crisps without that happening! Usually all over my new, clean trousers  :'(
To make life a bit easier put the mug of coffeee down 1st  :angel:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 05, 2013, 04:40:20 PM
Quote from: jonclox on January 05, 2013, 04:38:47 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on January 05, 2013, 03:53:13 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on January 05, 2013, 02:57:02 PM
Recently there have been a lot of them stating "Salt spreading".
Have I ever seen it being done? :no:

This usually happens to me when I'm eating my lunch while driving. It's not easy to eat a bag of crisps without that happening! Usually all over my new, clean trousers  :'(
To make life a bit easier put the mug of coffeee down 1st  :angel:

And the electric shaver from the other hand :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on January 05, 2013, 04:48:09 PM
We may have extra fingers down here in Wiltshire but we don't have extra hands  :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 05, 2013, 09:59:45 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on January 05, 2013, 04:48:09 PM
We may have extra fingers down here in Wiltshire but we don't have extra hands  :goggleeyes:

You obviously don't do what I do and have the bag of crisps on your lap.......... :oopssign: :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on January 06, 2013, 03:05:49 PM
Just getting to set up for drilling some holes to make my new framework and my only drill apart from a dremel has just decided to expire.
NOT HAPPY AT ALL.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 06, 2013, 08:11:40 PM
further to the posts on the motorway / A road info signs, on the way to work this evening, coming down the A23 towards Brighton, the sign read :

A27 CLOSED AFTER A284

right  ???

A23 joins A27 as a T and you can go A27 east or A27 west.

A284 .... of course we all know this crosses the A27 at Arundel north/ south don't we  :uneasy:

Arundel is of course about 25 miles west of Brighton.

Why don't these wombles use a bit of sense, and for instance make the above message read :

A27 WEST CLOSED AT ARUNDEL AFTER A284

plent of space for that on the huge board, and actually gives some usefull info to motorists who are not walking road maps !

:veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on January 07, 2013, 09:09:19 AM
Quote from: class37025 on January 06, 2013, 08:11:40 PM


plent of space for that on the huge board, and actually gives some usefull info to motorists who are not walking road maps !

:veryangry: :veryangry:
I bought a 'walking road map' some years ago.
It has the habbit of saying ''turn left (or right) half  mile back along the road'' or 'Are we going to stop for lunch at that nice bub back there''  :veryangry: :veryangry:

She then goes into a mood and refuses to speak to me for days  (bliss pure bliss)  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on January 07, 2013, 09:12:50 AM
 :veryangry: :veryangry: Paying extra for 'next day delivery' only to have the dispatch date knocked back so the next day is a Saturday when the couriers don't deliver  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 07, 2013, 09:15:35 AM
Quote from: jonclox on January 07, 2013, 09:09:19 AM
Quote from: class37025 on January 06, 2013, 08:11:40 PM


plent of space for that on the huge board, and actually gives some usefull info to motorists who are not walking road maps !

:veryangry: :veryangry:
I bought a 'walking road map' some years ago.
It has the habbit of saying ''turn left (or right) half  mile back along the road'' or 'Are we going to stop for lunch at that nice bub back there''  :veryangry: :veryangry:

She then goes into a mood and refuses to speak to me for days  (bliss pure bliss)  ;)

:laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
I don't know how much you paid, Jon, but is she still under warranty :confused2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GroupC on January 11, 2013, 05:36:22 PM
Not so much "angry" but more of an exasperated observation:

Top Gear shorty Richard Hammond has yet another programme out with the first 2 words of the title being "Richard Hammond's...". Is the now floppy-haired broadcaster compensating once more in this tiresome semi-eponymous way for his lack of inches, and associated inability to be let on the adult rides at theme parks in a "short man syndrome" kind of way, or is it a takeover bid so that before long no BBC show will actually be allowed to be made which isn't called "Richard Hammond's..." something or other.

Perhaps we could have a "complete the programme title competition" (no prizes).

My starter would be "Richard Hammond's Organ". A music show obviously for those who know about that sort of thing.

I don't overly dislike the chap you understand, but come on, hamster, what is up with you?

As an afterthought, I occasionally used to see him pushing his trolley round Tesco's in Cheltenham when I lived there, and always wanted to ask him if he was a "Driving God" with his trolley, as he once proclaimed when driving a madly overpowered Land Rover or something. And he is very short, if you're interested. My baguette was longer (and that's not an innuendo).

Please help me out of Hammondworld.

Yours hopefully,

Richard Hammond's GroupC.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on January 11, 2013, 06:14:56 PM
I think it's more a case of producers thinking they're on to a winner and repeating what they think is a winning formula as often as possible.It's just that he seems to be flavour of the month at the moment.

Is there anyone who hasn't been on Strictly come dancing yet,not that I watch it anyway.
I can't understand why a program that starts off with numerous couples then takes just as much viewing time up when it's down to the last two,plus what seems to be daily updates as to what's happening.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on January 11, 2013, 07:59:53 PM
Sue Perkins is another one who seems to be 'flavour of the month'
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on January 11, 2013, 08:28:59 PM
Funny how Sue, and her sidekick Mel, disappeared from the air waves for a few years, then suddenly Sue came back, and now Mel has popped up again with her on the baking show. Was Mel "sent down" for a longer time?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mr magnolia on January 11, 2013, 11:29:14 PM
Bless them though.
Saw them at Edinburgh festival about 20? yrs ago. Very funny show.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on January 12, 2013, 09:26:34 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on January 07, 2013, 09:15:35 AM
Quote from: jonclox on January 07, 2013, 09:09:19 AM
Quote from: class37025 on January 06, 2013, 08:11:40 PM


plent of space for that on the huge board, and actually gives some usefull info to motorists who are not walking road maps !

:veryangry: :veryangry:
I bought a 'walking road map' some years ago.
It has the habbit of saying ''turn left (or right) half  mile back along the road'' or 'Are we going to stop for lunch at that nice bub back there''  :veryangry: :veryangry:

She then goes into a mood and refuses to speak to me for days  (bliss pure bliss)  ;)

:laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
I don't know how much you paid, Jon, but is she still under warranty :confused2:
No :(  In fact I suspect she is now past her 'useby date' even :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Fratton on January 12, 2013, 11:03:55 AM
Why do 11 men have to gather around one layout and block the isles completely when there's nothing running because three of  them are rivet counting the operator  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on January 12, 2013, 07:28:09 PM
Walk backwards and knock them out of the way - it's what your extra large rucksack is for!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Fratton on January 12, 2013, 08:27:39 PM
I had a wheelchair buggy and aiming for the ankles  >:D   :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on January 12, 2013, 09:01:56 PM
Best to eat a tin of baked beans and eat a few onions the day before you visit  :doh: don't worry they will soon move on, nothing like the old passing wind trick  :D :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on January 13, 2013, 02:26:32 PM
Wallpapering  :veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on January 13, 2013, 04:09:21 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on January 13, 2013, 02:26:32 PM
Wallpapering  :veryangry: :veryangry:

LOL  Well I'm glad to hear that you've managed to get that far now.  It seems to have taken forever for the plaster to dry!    ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on January 14, 2013, 02:54:46 PM
Quote from: Tank on January 13, 2013, 04:09:21 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on January 13, 2013, 02:26:32 PM
Wallpapering  :veryangry: :veryangry:

LOL  Well I'm glad to hear that you've managed to get that far now.  It seems to have taken forever for the plaster to dry!    ;D

Ah well, you see it's like this. One diluted coat to seal the plaster, one base coat and two topcoats on the ceiling and 3 walls, one wall sealed only as it was to be papered, then Della changed her mind and wanted the opposite wall papered (the really awkward one with lots of cutting out!) so the bare wall had to be painted to the same standard as the rest, then we had to get the carpet fitters in before Christmas or wait till next month  :o
The first 2 strips went up and, despite initial concerns by the amount of bubbling, settled back ok, except one bit shrunk too much so it had to come off again  :doh: so finally got it all done but don't know how it has dried yet till I get home tonight, if any more has shrunk back it's getting bloody painted  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: bbdave on January 16, 2013, 05:51:45 PM
In three words DAPOL CUSTOMER SERVICE  :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:


Dave
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on January 16, 2013, 07:02:49 PM
Quote from: bbdave on January 16, 2013, 05:51:45 PM
In three words DAPOL CUSTOMER SERVICE  :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:


Dave

Know what you mean!

When enquiring about the unidentified, tiny items included with my new loco  'Don't know why they put you through to me..' and mentioning my eyes aren't as good these days, I was asked  'Why would you want to know if you can't see them very well?'

I did get the info by email as promised but what a charming way to speak to a customer.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: bbdave on January 16, 2013, 07:17:50 PM
At least they talk to you i just get ignored


Dave
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on January 16, 2013, 07:26:43 PM
Quote from: bbdave on January 16, 2013, 07:17:50 PM
At least they talk to you i just get ignored


Dave

Oh, I got ignored - initially, hence the phone call. I have to say the email was a lot more polite and wonder if the writer wasn't the person I spoke with.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Fratton on January 18, 2013, 12:26:49 PM
Quote from: davieb on January 18, 2013, 12:15:54 PM

a council gritter going round the grounds of the DW Stadium in Wigan  :veryangry:
and i'm not talking about the roads it was the paved areas right up to the walls and turnstiles  :veryangry: :thumbsdown:

dave  :thumbsup:

They either have an agreement with the council or he's a fan, i understand your frustration all the major routes are fine here, but where i live the two normal routes to work are over bridges that im going to have to navigate around through town,
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on January 18, 2013, 12:32:18 PM
Saw gritters yesterday but not been out yet today.
Will be interesting because there is a slope and 180 degree corner just to get out of my parking space and onto the level bit. . No grit bins as our bin last year got moved due to residents in another road emptying it for their drives and we have been told it will not be replaced.
Last year I had enough problems getting out in my old Impreza but now I only have a small FWD car not looking forward to it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: moogle on January 18, 2013, 02:26:22 PM
Been snowing here since last night - I HATE SNOW!  :veryangry:

Been food shopping today (Usually done Monday) before the paths freeze over and become skating rinks!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 18, 2013, 05:37:16 PM
Quote from: davieb on January 18, 2013, 12:15:54 PM

a council gritter going round the grounds of the DW Stadium in Wigan  :veryangry:
and i'm not talking about the roads it was the paved areas right up to the walls and turnstiles  :veryangry: :thumbsdown:

anyway rant over
stay safe everyone

dave  :thumbsup:

Guess it's a bit like schools, Dave. Anyone falls over they'll sue the stadium owners just like if little Johnny falls over in the playground the parents will sue the school. It's probably why they shut so many when there's an inch of snow, when I can remember going to school with 4ft or more of snow on the ground :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on January 18, 2013, 05:39:23 PM
I remember sitting in class wearing my overcoat because the heating had broken down. The free milk froze in the bottles, but we were still forced out into the playground at break time. Kids today..bore..bore..bore.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on January 19, 2013, 05:31:18 PM
Not really angry but annoyed more than anything,getting sick and tired of every youtube video having adverts across it.
Recently I was browsing to choose a new printer and now I'm getting printer adverts on youtube and on a lot of sites I visit,I've bought a new printer and I don't need advertising helping me choose another one.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on January 19, 2013, 06:04:21 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on January 19, 2013, 05:31:18 PM
Not really angry but annoyed more than anything,getting sick and tired of every youtube video having adverts across it.
Recently I was browsing to choose a new printer and now I'm getting printer adverts on youtube and on a lot of sites I visit,I've bought a new printer and I don't need advertising helping me choose another one.

Allan

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Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on January 19, 2013, 08:01:56 PM
Very wild 6am Friday, I booted the computer to check that my Pension had been put in but couldn't access the website, I also checked other websites that I could not access  :veryangry:

The day before I got an update with the latest Firefox18 so I thought Firefox may have had a bug or something, I decided to download Opera browser which I hate and was able to access everything except the Bank  :veryangry:

Being a Linux user I backed everything up and loaded a different operating system, same problem  :veryangry: anyway to cut a long story short I started messing around at 11.30 am and after loading and reloading Linux about 3 times and trying 4 different browsers I crawled into bed at 11.45pm, still the same problem could not access bank and other websites.

Got up yesterday morning did the updates for my latest distro and whamo everything was working perfectly, the conclusion I finally came to was there was a problem with my ISP "Optus" and it had nowt to do with faulty downloads or operating systems.

We have snail pace broadband over here and somewhere along the line my ISP must have had part of the system switched off or something  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 23, 2013, 01:10:40 AM
luckily it's the last one tonight, my 20min drive to work took 3hrs 35mins !

thanks to the weather and the antics of WSCC highways, highways agency and sussex plod all roads towards Brighton / Hove were either closed, blocked or gridlocked.

and of course bugger all usefull info on the local radio, and the big info boards were blank, mind you they usually tell you what's happening 30-45 miles away, not just up the road.

muppetts.

final straw was when I finally got to work and checked the met office forecast for Hove, and it told me the white stuff was actually heavy rain !

don't they have any windows ??

so all in all, lost two and a half hours pay, spent three and a half hours mainly sitting in traffic, and I'd left home earlier because we had got a bit of sleet  :veryangry: :veryangry:

how would these idiots get on if we had this sort of weather all through the winter?

not fit for purpose just doesn't get near it.

mind you, nice line of gritters parked up in the depot when I went past  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on January 23, 2013, 04:42:15 AM
Quote
how would these idiots get on if we had this sort of weather all through the winter?


Same as other countries that have snow all winter - quite well ;)

It's because we only get a week or two every year, sometimes less or none at all, that there are problems. No point investing in more/better machinery as it would sit idle 50 weeks of the year. People don't know how to drive in it which doesn't help, plus people in snowier countries generally have winter tyres and snow chains whereas again, there's no point in this country.


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: StufromEGDL on January 25, 2013, 09:20:13 PM
http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/10146974.Swindon_top_European_form_league/?ref=rss (http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/10146974.Swindon_top_European_form_league/?ref=rss)

Swindon Town.....doing quite well for a change!!

Later,
Stu from EGDL.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: B757-236GT on January 25, 2013, 09:39:26 PM
Swindon Town and doing well? I thought this was the angry thread not the cloud cuckoo thread!

Richard (brother to a massive Swindon Town fan, i too support a town except mine is Chippenham town, my excuse is only Wiltshire glory hunters support the Dons! :P)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on January 25, 2013, 09:45:00 PM
Quote from: StufromEGDL on January 25, 2013, 09:20:13 PM
http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/10146974.Swindon_top_European_form_league/?ref=rss (http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/10146974.Swindon_top_European_form_league/?ref=rss)

Swindon Town.....doing quite well for a change!!

Later,
Stu from EGDL.
But they are skint and up for sale Stu.  As for Chippenham Town, I think they may be 'stuck' where they are for another season  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dock Shunter on January 26, 2013, 11:56:20 AM
Quote from: StufromEGDL on January 25, 2013, 09:20:13 PM
http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/10146974.Swindon_top_European_form_league/?ref=rss (http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/10146974.Swindon_top_European_form_league/?ref=rss)

Swindon Town.....doing quite well for a change!!

Later,
Stu from EGDL.
I still have to rub me eyes when i look at the table,but my team (Tranmere Rovers) aren't doing to bad either........ :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on January 29, 2013, 01:35:33 PM
Please note, all references to Stu's Ebay scammer have been moved to a separate topic "Ebay Scam", see here http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=11017.msg110833#msg110833 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=11017.msg110833#msg110833)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on January 29, 2013, 01:43:53 PM
Is the topic viewable by all or registered members only, purely thinking of protecting some people (not me, I don't care  ;D ) I know the Facebook N gauge page has been equally vociferous though and Stu has had a lot of support from them too
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on January 29, 2013, 01:47:43 PM
PM sent
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on January 29, 2013, 07:48:53 PM
Quote from: Dock Shunter on January 26, 2013, 11:56:20 AM
I still have to rub me eyes when i look at the table,but my team (Tranmere Rovers) aren't doing to bad either........ :thumbsup:

Scared to play us, Swindon last weekend though I noticed.  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: findus on January 31, 2013, 08:38:53 PM
Being made redundant from my 6 month old job..................... GRRRRR
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on January 31, 2013, 08:50:59 PM
Quote from: findus on January 31, 2013, 08:38:53 PM
Being made redundant from my 6 month old job..................... GRRRRR

Sympathies findus. Been there, believe it or not, 8 times over a period of around 24 years!

If it is any encouragement, I've survived and mostly improved my position every time I got another post.

Good luck.  :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on January 31, 2013, 08:52:50 PM
Quote from: findus on January 31, 2013, 08:38:53 PM
Being made redundant from my 6 month old job..................... GRRRRR

Never news you want to hear, really sorry.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 31, 2013, 09:01:51 PM
Quote from: findus on January 31, 2013, 08:38:53 PM
Being made redundant from my 6 month old job..................... GRRRRR

So sorry to hear that, Findus. Good luck in finding something else :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on January 31, 2013, 10:01:19 PM
What a bummer, let's hope something else comes along soooooon.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on January 31, 2013, 10:58:01 PM
What is it with supermarkets

If the ingredients start 'glucose syrup' it's not jam its gloop.

:veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tim-pelican on January 31, 2013, 11:44:47 PM
My "jam" of choice isn't allowed to be labelled "jam" because it doesn't have enough (any?) sugar in it.  It's something like "high fruit content spread", which is right up there with "non-brewed onion-flavoured condiment" in terms of nonsense.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on February 01, 2013, 10:59:45 AM
As long as it doesn't contain horsemeat ['m not too bothered..... :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on February 01, 2013, 08:30:28 PM
It's time people went back to making their own food. I have been making my own jams and bottling/pickling fruit and veg for many years.  What really gets me going is things like ready made yorkshire puddings - it's just plain flour, egg, milk and salt whipped up with a fork and poured into a pan and put in a hot oven - simples.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 01, 2013, 08:35:41 PM
Quote from: Kipper on February 01, 2013, 08:30:28 PM
What really gets me going is things like ready made yorkshire puddings - it's just plain flour, egg, milk and salt whipped up with a fork and poured into a pan and put in a hot oven - simples.

Sorry, but I disagree with that bit. When I got my first house I had a straight forward old gas oven and could churn out lovely Yorkshire Puds. My next abode had a fan oven and my Puds were never the same :( Now I have an electric oven and can't produce a decent Yorkshire to save my life. I am sure the oven type has much to do with it :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on February 01, 2013, 08:41:32 PM
Get yourself a Rayburn (cheaper end AGA)!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 01, 2013, 08:42:58 PM
Quote from: Kipper on February 01, 2013, 08:41:32 PM
Get yourself a Rayburn (cheaper end AGA)!

They're bigger than my bungalow, but thanks :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: moogle on February 01, 2013, 08:51:29 PM
Quote from: Kipper on February 01, 2013, 08:30:28 PM
It's time people went back to making their own food. I have been making my own jams and bottling/pickling fruit and veg for many years.  What really gets me going is things like ready made yorkshire puddings - it's just plain flour, egg, milk and salt whipped up with a fork and poured into a pan and put in a hot oven - simples.

Not everyone has the facilities, time or know how to do that, nice though it is.
I agree about the Yorkshires though.
Saying that, cooking them is a different story!

I have a go at making my own wines and made some rather lethal mead last year!  :pint:
Yep, after 2 pints you needed to lay down...   :uneasy:  :smiley-laughing:
Gonna try making beer this year at some point!  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on February 01, 2013, 08:52:12 PM
Quote from: Kipper on February 01, 2013, 08:30:28 PM
It's time people went back to making their own food. I have been making my own jams and bottling/pickling fruit and veg for many years.  What really gets me going is things like ready made yorkshire puddings - it's just plain flour, egg, milk and salt whipped up with a fork and poured into a pan and put in a hot oven - simples.

(http://www.sprintexnet.co.uk/Images/auntbessiesadvcensored.JPG)

Censored version  ;)

We have a crap fan oven in our house, you can guarantee if something says it will take 30 mins at 180 then it'll take 45 mins in our oven, and fan ovens are meant to be more efficient!  ::) Having said that, since following Saint Delia's tip of placing the hot tray of fat over a low burner while you tip the batter in I've never had a failure  :food:


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on February 01, 2013, 09:10:14 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on February 01, 2013, 08:35:41 PM
My next abode had a fan oven and my Puds were never the same :( Now I have an electric oven and can't produce a decent Yorkshire to save my life. I am sure the oven type has much to do with it :hmmm:
Well ... I wouldn't think so, but ...

Our combi microwave does 'em decently, as does the proper electric fan oven ...  We find that not using old flour or eggs is more important.  Also, since we swapped to the Goddess's method of making 'em, they're bloody ginormous !!!  :goggleeyes: :drool:

Mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on February 01, 2013, 11:01:17 PM
I just buy the ready made frozen ones,4 minutes in the Halogen cooker for five or six Yorkshire puddings and then put them on a plate and pour treacle in them,yummy :) :) :)

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on February 01, 2013, 11:11:05 PM
I go to the pub and they serve

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-hft25lSXUS8/T4LaCf16y5I/AAAAAAAAByE/ttDxI5qBRL8/w286-h381-p-k/IMG_20120409_132115.jpg)

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RChook on February 01, 2013, 11:23:20 PM
Quote from: Agrippa on February 01, 2013, 10:59:45 AM
As long as it doesn't contain horsemeat
You mean "as long as it doesnt contain un-labeled horse meat" ?

After the Tesco fiasco I thort " can I buy horse meat in the UK", I mean, I knew it was legal, but is there anyone selling it.
So after a bit of googling I found only one online supplier and ,,,
here is the angry bit ! ,,,
Because of all the publicity he was sold out till next month !!!! Ha !!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on February 01, 2013, 11:25:37 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on February 01, 2013, 11:01:17 PM
I just buy the ready made frozen ones,4 minutes in the Halogen cooker for five or six Yorkshire puddings and then put them on a plate and pour treacle in them,yummy :) :) :)

Allan

always baffled me when I wer' a lad,

if it was with roast beef it was a yorkshire pudding,
but according to my gran, with golden syrup it was a batter pudding  ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: surfaceman on February 02, 2013, 12:09:35 AM
FROZEN Yorkshire Puds!

That's right up there with ( excuse me for this, it IS just after Burns Night ) ready made mashed potatoes and "bashed" neeps ( for all you southerners, neeps is swedes ). Can nobody do any simple cooking anymore??

As for "ready frozen ice cubes" ... !!!

Alex
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on February 02, 2013, 11:02:37 AM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on February 01, 2013, 11:11:05 PM
I go to the pub and they serve

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-hft25lSXUS8/T4LaCf16y5I/AAAAAAAAByE/ttDxI5qBRL8/w286-h381-p-k/IMG_20120409_132115.jpg)

Alan

Yep, made those myself before too, and you don't have to put up with "pub talk" putting you off your food either ;).

Quote from: surfaceman link=topic=659.msg114395#msg11439Can nobody do any simple cooking anymore??

Simple answer no, most people are too lazy to prepare and cook real food these days, hence the reliance on ready-made and the reason why there are so many fat bas obese people too! Too much hidden fats and sugar.

I may be a Southerner but I did make neeps 'n' tatties to go with our Macsween's haggis for Burns Night Supper, followed by delicious home made Cranachan. My Edinburgh-born-and-bred misses had no complaints  :D


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on February 02, 2013, 04:30:38 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on February 01, 2013, 11:01:17 PM
I just buy the ready made frozen ones
Memo to the Mods - how come we allowed this philistine person in ?  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on February 02, 2013, 05:03:39 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on February 02, 2013, 04:30:38 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on February 01, 2013, 11:01:17 PM
I just buy the ready made frozen ones
Memo to the Mods - how come we allowed this philistine person in ?  >:D
Well I don't know how to cook and my wife is too ill to cook so I don't have a choice really.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 02, 2013, 05:35:57 PM
Strewth! There's more intensity here than on the Great British Bake Off :o ;D
Each to their own, I say, dependent on personal circumstances such as ability, time etc.
Dunno about treacle but after a roast dinner I used to have the rest of the Yorkshire with golden syrup for dessert :food:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on February 02, 2013, 05:44:46 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on February 02, 2013, 05:35:57 PM

Dunno about treacle but after a roast dinner I used to have the rest of the Yorkshire with golden syrup for dessert :food:


Us poor people had treacle,posh people called it Golden Syrup. :D

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 02, 2013, 05:48:43 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on February 02, 2013, 05:44:46 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on February 02, 2013, 05:35:57 PM

Dunno about treacle but after a roast dinner I used to have the rest of the Yorkshire with golden syrup for dessert :food:


Us poor people had treacle,posh people called it Golden Syrup. :D

Allan


Different products and different colours, Allan :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on February 02, 2013, 06:12:15 PM
Well I learn something new every day,I must have been using Golden Syrup all these years in my ignorance. :D

Allan.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 02, 2013, 06:16:24 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on February 02, 2013, 06:12:15 PM
Well I learn something new every day,I must have been using Golden Syrup all these years in my ignorance. :D

Allan.

Does that mean you're posh, too, then ??? :nerner:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on February 02, 2013, 06:23:17 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on February 02, 2013, 05:48:43 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on February 02, 2013, 05:44:46 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on February 02, 2013, 05:35:57 PM

Dunno about treacle but after a roast dinner I used to have the rest of the Yorkshire with golden syrup for dessert :food:


Us poor people had treacle,posh people called it Golden Syrup. :D

Allan


Different products and different colours, Allan :)

So why is Treacle Tart made with golden syrup then? :P


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: surfaceman on February 02, 2013, 06:26:03 PM
Nah, not posh or working class - it seems to be a regional thing :

I was reliably informed ( by my southern English missus ) that what I knew to be Golden Syrup was in fact Treacle, and what I knew to be Treacle was in fact Molasses!

I wasn't silly ( or brave? ) enough to try to correct her!

Alex
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 02, 2013, 06:28:39 PM
As far as I know all the treacle I have seen is almost black, not golden.
The syrup I used to have was in a green and gold tin with a recumbent lion in the picture and was a pale gold colour :confused1:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on February 02, 2013, 07:15:02 PM
It still does I think,but the one I've got is in a squeezy bottle.But I still call it treacle.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dock Shunter on February 02, 2013, 07:26:51 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on February 02, 2013, 07:15:02 PM
It still does I think,but the one I've got is in a squeezy bottle.

Allan

Posh Git........... :D  :) ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on February 02, 2013, 07:45:14 PM
Quote from: Dock Shunter on February 02, 2013, 07:26:51 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on February 02, 2013, 07:15:02 PM
It still does I think,but the one I've got is in a squeezy bottle.

Allan

Posh Git........... :D  :) ;)

:laughabovepost:    :laughabovepost:    :laughabovepost:  love it   :claphappy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on February 02, 2013, 07:57:41 PM
Ah nothing like a plate of Porridge with Golden Syrup all over it, only problem is it will kill you  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on February 02, 2013, 08:36:11 PM
Quote from: longbridge on February 02, 2013, 07:57:41 PM
Ah nothing like a plate of Porridge with Golden Syrup all over it, only problem is it will kill you  :veryangry:

don't worry about it, if you listen to the "experts" so will everything else  :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on February 02, 2013, 09:20:56 PM
Dunno about all the interest in treacle but it's a good job no one mentioned Marmite !  :sick: :sick: :sick:

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on February 02, 2013, 09:29:16 PM
No comment just had a marmite sandwich- yum yum.
Other option was Bovril.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on February 02, 2013, 09:29:40 PM
Now we're talking, Marmite soldiers, dribble dribble  :claphappy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on February 02, 2013, 09:35:42 PM
Quote from: whiteswan on February 02, 2013, 09:29:40 PM
Now we're talking, Marmite soldiers, dribble dribble  :claphappy:

OH YES!!!!  :drool: Time for Supper me thinks!

Bye the way, Has the "Angry Thread" turned into the "Happy Thread"  :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dock Shunter on February 02, 2013, 09:52:10 PM
Quote from: Jack9465 on February 02, 2013, 09:35:42 PM
Quote from: whiteswan on February 02, 2013, 09:29:40 PM
Now we're talking, Marmite soldiers, dribble dribble  :claphappy:


By the way, Has the "Angry Thread" turned into the "Happy Thread"  :laugh:

:veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:......................
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: spurno on February 03, 2013, 03:47:55 PM
back to the angry thread.i hate marmite with a passion.it's on a par with vomit. :P :P :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on February 03, 2013, 03:51:38 PM
Quote from: spurno on February 03, 2013, 03:47:55 PM
back to the angry thread.i hate marmite with a passion.it's on a par with vomit. :P :P :P

thanks for the heads up, I've never eaten vomit  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on February 03, 2013, 04:26:01 PM
Trying to fit curtain pole brackets to 1930s lathe & plaster walls, what a bloody nightmare  :help:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on February 03, 2013, 04:49:08 PM
Spent nearly an hour on the phone to Sky telling them that my phone line needs looking at and yes I've already tested it with 2 phones, and 2 different sockets, and 2 different filters and yes I do know what I'm talking about and yes it's absolutely 100% the line which is faulty. Not my phones, my modem, my sockets etc, just send someone out will you like I asked in the first 2 minutes of my call, well, the first 2 minutes after being on hold for 14 that is. Now they've raised it to their customer solutions team. Just send out BT will you?!?!?!?

Lawrence, you've as much chance of success as I have of BT calling me today to arrange a visit.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on February 03, 2013, 05:16:03 PM
That is precisely why i ditched Sky many moons ago. Disgraceful customer service and more regard to their profits than even trying to understand customer needs. Plus the fact they are owned by Murdoch. More evil than Skeletor that one.
I would never ever go back to them.
'Believe in better?' My Ar#e.....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: spurno on February 03, 2013, 05:28:44 PM
i ditched sky six months ago after more than twenty years with them.they didn't want to know about my problem with my skybox.i don't miss it at all.

ps.anyone ever noticed that there is no complaints department number you can ring,only an address you can write to.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on February 03, 2013, 05:39:53 PM
I understand where both of you are coming from but I'd miss the golf if I got rid of Sky. I've made a few complaints and to be honest they've all been handled very well. Maybe either I've just been lucky or you weren't so lucky?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on February 03, 2013, 05:50:46 PM
Being a good customer, they messed up on a simple thing which they didnt resolve causing me to be out of pocket. I binned them after 3 months of them messing up all the time.

They phoned me up a few months after i cancelled, asking me why i left. The manager said my issue was easy to fix, so i said why did they not sort it out at the time?
Incompetent with no easy way to complain.
Steer Clear!
Just a shame they have monopoly on Football and Golf!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 03, 2013, 06:44:11 PM
Quote from: spurno on February 03, 2013, 03:47:55 PM
back to the angry thread.i hate marmite with a passion.it's on a par with vomit. :P :P :P

Marmite's easier to spread, though :-X
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on February 03, 2013, 06:50:17 PM
Quote from: class37025 on February 03, 2013, 03:51:38 PM
Quote from: spurno on February 03, 2013, 03:47:55 PM
back to the angry thread.i hate marmite with a passion.it's on a par with vomit. :P :P :P

thanks for the heads up, I've never eaten vomit  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

I have, it's marketed under the brand name of Heinz Sandwich Spread  :D


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on February 03, 2013, 09:04:43 PM
Real men eat Vegemite

(http://i49.tinypic.com/2h3a2ip.jpg)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on February 03, 2013, 09:09:20 PM
Quote from: longbridge on February 03, 2013, 09:04:43 PM
Real men eat Vegemite
But - Kraft is Krap  :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on February 03, 2013, 09:11:18 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on February 03, 2013, 04:49:08 PM

Lawrence, you've as much chance of success as I have of BT calling me today to arrange a visit.

7 out of 8 screws took okay, the eighth one the plug just spun round  :veryangry: so removed the plug, filled the now cavernous hole with as much filler as I could and gently pushed a fresh plug in, hopefully the filler doesn't shrink too much and I can get the screw in tomorrow when it's set  :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on February 03, 2013, 09:23:55 PM
It's always the last one which doesn't play ball. If all else fails you can try plasterboard fixings which I had some success with in the last house.

This type (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rawlplug-Metal-Selfdrill-Plasterboard-Fixing/dp/B0001P0K9A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1359926458&sr=8-1) I usually find best. Or you can have a look at this (http://www.diydoctor.org.uk/projects/fixing-to-lathe-and-plaster.htm)  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on February 03, 2013, 09:29:04 PM
Quote from: longbridge on February 03, 2013, 09:04:43 PM
Real men eat Vegemite

(http://i49.tinypic.com/2h3a2ip.jpg)


Urghhhhhhhh.... :sick2: :sick:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: saddler on February 03, 2013, 09:59:47 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on February 03, 2013, 09:09:20 PM
Quote from: longbridge on February 03, 2013, 09:04:43 PM
Real men eat Vegemite
But - Kraft is Krap  :P
surely you meant kraftwerk is krap?  :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on February 03, 2013, 10:18:06 PM
Quote from: saddler on February 03, 2013, 09:59:47 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on February 03, 2013, 09:09:20 PM
Quote from: longbridge on February 03, 2013, 09:04:43 PM
Real men eat Vegemite
But - Kraft is Krap  :P
surely you meant kraftwerk is krap?  :P
Well - that too  :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tim-pelican on February 03, 2013, 10:30:22 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on February 03, 2013, 09:11:18 PM
7 out of 8 screws took okay, the eighth one the plug just spun round  :veryangry: so removed the plug, filled the now cavernous hole with as much filler as I could and gently pushed a fresh plug in, hopefully the filler doesn't shrink too much and I can get the screw in tomorrow when it's set  :worried:

I had the spinning syndrome with some shelves in the bedroom.  Grabbed some two-part putty (GW 'Green Stuff') from the modelling drawer, that sets lovely and hard without much in the way of shrinkage.  The shelves are still up (although about to come down again for decorating) :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on February 03, 2013, 10:33:31 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on February 03, 2013, 09:09:20 PM
Quote from: longbridge on February 03, 2013, 09:04:43 PM
Real men eat Vegemite
But - Kraft is Krap  :P

Kraft is NOT krap  :telloff:

They make the best cheddar on the supermarket shelves - Crackerbarrel !!  :P


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on February 03, 2013, 10:38:24 PM
Angry is maybe a bit over the top but a little annoyed I have to say.
Won 3 items tonight on ebay. 1 lot of 2x coaches. 1 lot of 1x coach. 1 lot of 1x wagon. Postage advertised for these is standard 2nd class at £3.95, £3.95 and £3.50 respectively. The seller has kindly reduced the postage to £7.90 but still 2nd class standard.
Is it just me or is this a little steep?

I only ever charge what it costs me, I don't charge for packaging either but that's my choice. By my reckoning unless he's sending these in an oak box it will cost him £3.15 to post.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on February 03, 2013, 10:42:48 PM
Some people believe in charging for packaging, time to pack it, and even a contribution to the cost of getting to Post Office!  :no:

You might think that's taking the pee a bit, but the bottom line is if you don't like the postage cost don't bid - no-one's forcing you to buy them  ;)


Paul

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on February 03, 2013, 10:57:42 PM
If i send at 2nd class recorded which costs £3.15 i will charge £3.50 to cover time and package costs.

I think his price is fair as hes probably putting all won items together meaning weight of package is higher thus will cost more.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on February 03, 2013, 11:47:31 PM
I've just weighed a similar number of coaches and a wagon and it's nowhere near the 750g limit for 2nd class recorded at £3.15. I also appreciate that if you don't like the postage price then don't bid but I was hoping he would be sensible about it. The base price of postage is still the same due to the weight and there will be slightly more packaging. No extra fuel, parking etc. If it had been me selling I would have done it for £3.15 in the first place but there you go. I've sold 12 items tonight and 1 person won 2 items which I have combined to £3.15 postage even though each was marked at that.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on February 04, 2013, 12:21:45 AM
Oh Dear!
It seems i was wrong then! I thought that due to the weight going up, so would postage. (didnt know this was a 750g limit)
I think that is high then considering special delivery is only £6!

Have you emailed him yet explaining what you have just told us?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on February 04, 2013, 12:55:27 AM
I have emailed him asking if the £7.90 is still for 2nd class standard postage (ie not recorded) which it obviously is from the invoice. I have said it seems a little high and asked if there is any way he can reduce it a little. I've tried not to be too confrontational and will still pay even if he doesn't lower it. He may not get 5 stars when posting feedback though if it stays at this cost.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on February 04, 2013, 01:14:24 AM
With Ebay it's best to ignore postage costs and regard them as part
of the auction price. How much does bubble wrap cost?
I'm sure if you bought a single buffer on Ebay it would a few quid
to post .
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on February 04, 2013, 01:24:22 AM
I once bought a stylus for a Nintendo DS from Japan or China. Total cost including postage was 1p. Now that's what I call cheap postage  :thumbsup:

I must admit I do usually see the price as a total which includes postage but I also sometimes make the mistake of thinking that everyone is as reasonable as I am  ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on February 05, 2013, 12:41:53 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on February 04, 2013, 12:55:27 AM
I have emailed him asking if the £7.90 is still for 2nd class standard postage (ie not recorded) which it obviously is from the invoice. I have said it seems a little high and asked if there is any way he can reduce it a little. I've tried not to be too confrontational and will still pay even if he doesn't lower it. He may not get 5 stars when posting feedback though if it stays at this cost.

Seller has now reduced the postage to £5.90 for 2nd class recorded so I can live with that. Ok so he's 'making' £2.75 for the packing, petrol, parking etc etc but I've seen a lot worse. Everybody's happier now  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on February 05, 2013, 12:39:42 PM
You all probably know that Microsoft products and I just don't get on and since moving totally to another operating system a couple of years ago, the time that I used to spend swearing, screaming and then sobbing with frustration at the computer has disappeared.

The world, is mainly Microsoft though and I gave in and purchased a heavily discounted Mac version Office some time ago.

Today was one of those days when I wanted to do a simple job that would take less than half an hour (with cheapo Mac or OpenOffice products) that took four and a half hours to do because I had to use an Excel spreadsheet that had been created by someone else and they had tried to make it too clever for its own good with all kinds of code. So probably not entirely Microsoft's fault but I'm going to blame them anyway for four and a half lost hours of my life.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on February 05, 2013, 04:18:05 PM
Quote from: Pengy on February 05, 2013, 12:39:42 PM
The world, is mainly Microsoft though and I gave in and purchased a heavily discounted Mac version Office some time ago.

For end user overall Goldman Sachs reckon that has already become a "was". Android and iOS (iPhones/iPad etc) are now the dominant platforms. Microsoft dominate the desktop PC world still but thats now a fragment of a much bigger universe.

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on February 05, 2013, 04:20:41 PM
The price of nail varnish - humbrol paint is cheaper.
Had to go and buy some to paint a bulb on the car.
Mot failure - bulb blew  - wedge type 21w red  on rear fog light. Mot tester said get a clear one and paint it.
Also need a 22" &14" wiper blade.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on February 05, 2013, 08:00:08 PM
In my world Microsoft doesn't exist, I haven't used a Windows computer for five years.

I have had 3 second hand desktop computers given to me by friends or family each came with a Windows OS, I booted them up and loaded a Linux OS disc into the CD/DVD drive and wallah no more Windows, instead I got trouble free computing the way it should be.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on February 05, 2013, 08:15:57 PM
Quote from: longbridge on February 05, 2013, 08:00:08 PM
In my world Microsoft doesn't exist, I haven't used a Windows computer for five years.

I have had 3 second hand desktop computers given to me by friends or family each came with a Windows OS, I booted them up and loaded a Linux OS disc into the CD/DVD drive and wallah no more Windows, instead I got trouble free computing the way it should be.
It doesn't exist in my world only - except when I have to connect with the business world. :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EddieA on February 06, 2013, 06:46:34 PM
Quote from: Oldman on February 05, 2013, 04:20:41 PM
The price of nail varnish - humbrol paint is cheaper.


The price of inkjet ink - work out the cost if it was the equivalent of a 75cl bottle of wine. 

Better sit down first :scowl:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on February 06, 2013, 06:56:42 PM
Eddie ,I don't really drink wine so can't do that equation.
Factor inkjet ink against single barrel Jack Daniels and I understand that.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on February 07, 2013, 12:16:54 PM
Re Oldman's post, I drink Jack and coke occasionally, is that regarded
as sacrilegeous , as in adding to malt whisky?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 07, 2013, 12:48:08 PM
Quote from: Agrippa on February 07, 2013, 12:16:54 PM
Re Oldman's post, I drink Jack and coke occasionally, is that regarded
as sacrilegeous , as in adding to malt whisky?

In my book, that's a YES. The only thing that should be added to a malt whisky (in fact any good whisky/whiskey) is another one ;D Some say ice brings out the flavour more, but to my mind any dilution of a decent malt is just tragic :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on February 07, 2013, 03:00:53 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on February 07, 2013, 12:48:08 PM
Quote from: Agrippa on February 07, 2013, 12:16:54 PM
Re Oldman's post, I drink Jack and coke occasionally, is that regarded
as sacrilegeous , as in adding to malt whisky?

In my book, that's a YES. The only thing that should be added to a malt whisky (in fact any good whisky/whiskey) is another one ;D Some say ice brings out the flavour more, but to my mind any dilution of a decent malt is just tragic :hmmm:

Every word written above by Mr Nobby is completely and utterly true and should NEVER be deviated from  :admiration:


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on February 07, 2013, 03:13:10 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on February 07, 2013, 03:00:53 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on February 07, 2013, 12:48:08 PM
Quote from: Agrippa on February 07, 2013, 12:16:54 PM
Re Oldman's post, I drink Jack and coke occasionally, is that regarded
as sacrilegeous , as in adding to malt whisky?

In my book, that's a YES. The only thing that should be added to a malt whisky (in fact any good whisky/whiskey) is another one ;D Some say ice brings out the flavour more, but to my mind any dilution of a decent malt is just tragic :hmmm:

Every word written above by Mr Nobby is completely and utterly true and should NEVER be deviated from  :admiration:

Paul

Unless it is a great big splash of Barr's IRN-BRU followed by a deep fried Mars Bar chaser  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on February 07, 2013, 04:38:09 PM
Joyous.. the Royal Mail no longer permit the posting of enamel paints - aerosols and big pots I can see but even tiddly little tinlets are now not allowed

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on February 07, 2013, 06:54:47 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on February 07, 2013, 04:38:09 PM
Joyous.. the Royal Mail no longer permit the posting of enamel paints - aerosols and big pots I can see but even tiddly little tinlets are now not allowed



Hi Alan,
Unless it has just changed I thought the limit was 150ml or under so most small modelling tinlets are ok. I've just checked RMs website and this still quotes 150ml.
Gareth
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on February 07, 2013, 08:12:33 PM
Time to have an argument with the supplier and send them the detailed page.. 8)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on February 07, 2013, 08:49:10 PM
Quote from: Agrippa on February 07, 2013, 12:16:54 PM
Re Oldman's post, I drink Jack and coke occasionally, is that regarded
as sacrilegeous , as in adding to malt whisky?

Traitor.  You MUST NEVER contaminate Uncle Jack :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on February 11, 2013, 07:45:03 PM
I am getting really annoyed at some members of this forum, who keep on advising us of their latest layout, when I haven't managed to get mine much more than planned in three years!!! Don't they have a life???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 11, 2013, 08:39:54 PM
Quote from: Kipper on February 11, 2013, 07:45:03 PM
I am getting really annoyed at some members of this forum, who keep on advising us of their latest layout, when I haven't managed to get mine much more than planned in three years!!! Don't they have a life???

Each to their own, Kipper.
Obviously you have so much life you're just moving that much slower than others :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on February 13, 2013, 04:23:52 PM
Ha Ha. Yes, in fact I have had too much time and not enough action.  ??? 3 years since I retired and have so far failed to properly get to grips with my guitar playing, failed to finish the greenhouse, had to give up the allotment (which I got 3 years ago), failed to decorate the house top to bottom (SWMBO rules), and failed to get the layout going.   :thumbsdown:Plus side is that, after 4 operations I hope I have beaten the cancer, and model railways are the least of the above to stress the wounds, so onwards and upwards.  :thumbsup: At least I have got a name for the layout - Newby Sidings, a Southern Railway small sidings and staff halt on a branch line, with quarry and milk traffic.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 13, 2013, 06:11:00 PM
Yikes :o
After 4 ops I'm not surprised progress is slow. Very best wishes in your fight :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on February 13, 2013, 08:30:42 PM
Well, I finally succumbed and bought a Dapol FGW HST book set, I've been after one of these for quite a while and finally managed to find one at a well known dealer, who for the time being will be nameless, but I will name and shame if necessary.  I did ask the retailer to test it before despatch as it was going to end up in Spain.

Managed to put it on the test oval this morning and whilst it ran ok the first thing that was apparent was that the power car lights weren't working at all, on the trailer car, the red leds worked but only one white functioned.  :(

I immediately emailed the retailer with my findings and by 2000 hrs tonight still hadn't received any sort of reply to my initial observations.  :(

Any how, here's the latest email I sent this evening, let's see what happens now.

QUOTE

Further to my previous reports, after fully running the power car, I attached all the coaches and trailer car and discovered that the trailer car constantly derails, on closer inspection the after bogie appears to be very loose and if you're not careful will actually fall out of its own accord.  This derailing is exceptionally bad when the trailer car is being pushed and again after close inspection it appears that when the train is running the trailer car seems to be pulling to one side but I can see any obvious reason why.

I subsequently removed both body shells to see if there were any loose wires going to the lights, couldn't see anything obvious, although the power car looks as though it might have a some sort of repair to one of the wires as there is quite an ugly blob of solder where it clips to the top of the chassis.  I unplugged and re-plugged both sets of small plug and sockets that go to the lights to make sure it wasn't a bad connection.  This has resulted in the fact that the power car forward (white) lights now work but nothing when it goes in reverse.  The trailer car was also similarly treated but made no difference, both red lights work but still only 1 white light when the trailer car is leading.

On the whole I'm very disappointed, especially as I've been after one of these for quite a while but haven't really been able to afford it, I just hope you have a suitable replacement and with your permission I would like to return it for exchange or refund.

END QUOTE

:'(    :'(    :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on February 13, 2013, 09:05:34 PM
Just wasted over an hour connecting the wires to a point using some of the blue scotchlock suitcase connectors to find it didn't work.  Checked the 17v out of the controller, checked the 12v switching out of the back of the switch all fine. Got really annoyed at this stage and ripped the two suitcase connectors off.  They hadn't cut through the insulation as they are designed for Cable Size 1.5mm - 2.5mm, too big for my small Kato wiring.  I was probably more furious with myself than the connectors which actually work great with the right size cable

So if anyone wants 98 connectors for £5 drop me a PM (seriously), ideal for larger bus wires but no good for my diddy wiring  ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on February 13, 2013, 09:26:26 PM
Driving along the A27 on the way to Chichester. Hardly another car on the dual carriageway and then I spotted, on a bridge over the road, a mobile speed camera that has probably caught me doing 80 mph. Really angry about this, if they are going to use the cameras for road safety purposes, why don't they use them in roads where there is a known issue or in built up areas where speeding will put more lives at risk instead of on a dual carriageway outside of the rush hour when, IMHO, doing 80 is perfectly safe.

Ironically, have just got my new driving licence and was so pleased to finally rid myself of points - now face the anxious wait to see if the points are put back!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on February 13, 2013, 10:18:52 PM
Quote from: whiteswan on February 13, 2013, 08:30:42 PM

I immediately emailed the retailer with my findings and by 2000 hrs tonight still hadn't received any sort of reply to my initial observations.  :(

Any how, here's the latest email I sent this evening, let's see what happens now.

<snip> <snip>

Heard from the retailer at 2230 (impressed) they will sort out some sort of replacement, will know more tomorrow.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on February 13, 2013, 10:33:17 PM
Quote from: Pengy on February 13, 2013, 09:26:26 PM
Driving along the A27 on the way to Chichester. Hardly another car on the dual carriageway and then I spotted, on a bridge over the road, a mobile speed camera that has probably caught me doing 80 mph. Really angry about this, if they are going to use the cameras for road safety purposes, why don't they use them in roads where there is a known issue or in built up areas where speeding will put more lives at risk instead of on a dual carriageway outside of the rush hour when, IMHO, doing 80 is perfectly safe.

Ironically, have just got my new driving licence and was so pleased to finally rid myself of points - now face the anxious wait to see if the points are put back!

Was it an indicated 80mph on the car speedo? And also is it a standard 70mph limit dual carriageway or is there a lower signposted limit?

If the answer to both is 'yes' then you should be OK. Car speedometers generally over-read by about 10%, they HAVE to over-read by law as they are not allowed to under-read from the factory. Added to that most cameras operate a +20&% policy to allow some leeway, so the chances are you were actually doing 73-ish mph past a camera that won't bother unless you're doing over 84  ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on February 13, 2013, 10:46:01 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on February 13, 2013, 10:33:17 PM
Quote from: Pengy on February 13, 2013, 09:26:26 PM
Driving along the A27 on the way to Chichester. Hardly another car on the dual carriageway and then I spotted, on a bridge over the road, a mobile speed camera that has probably caught me doing 80 mph. Really angry about this, if they are going to use the cameras for road safety purposes, why don't they use them in roads where there is a known issue or in built up areas where speeding will put more lives at risk instead of on a dual carriageway outside of the rush hour when, IMHO, doing 80 is perfectly safe.

Ironically, have just got my new driving licence and was so pleased to finally rid myself of points - now face the anxious wait to see if the points are put back!

Was it an indicated 80mph on the car speedo? And also is it a standard 70mph limit dual carriageway or is there a lower signposted limit?

If the answer to both is 'yes' then you should be OK. Car speedometers generally over-read by about 10%, they HAVE to over-read by law as they are not allowed to under-read from the factory. Added to that most cameras operate a +20&% policy to allow some leeway, so the chances are you were actually doing 73-ish mph past a camera that won't bother unless you're doing over 84  ;)


Paul

Thanks Paul, i know I wasn't doing over 80 and it is standard 70mph. It was a mobile speed camera and  West Sussex police used to have a reputation for harshness. What annoyed me was why they would be speed checking on a dual carriageway with no history of accidents caused by speeding - unless they were trying to boost their revenue. I'm not anti-speed cameras provided they are located appropriately.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on February 13, 2013, 11:30:00 PM
Quote from: Pengy on February 13, 2013, 10:46:01 PM
for harshness. What annoyed me was why they would be speed checking on a dual carriageway with no history of accidents caused by speeding - unless they were trying to boost their revenue. I'm not anti-speed cameras provided they are located appropriately.

Presumably because they thought there may be a problem in the location. You could always ask them why they picked the spot !

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on February 14, 2013, 12:52:39 AM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on February 13, 2013, 11:30:00 PM

Presumably because they thought there may be a problem in the location. You could always ask them why they picked the spot !

my guess would be because they get a lot of people exceeding the speed limit, :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

nothing at all to do with raising money to pay for the new deputy PCC for sussex plod, of course. :-X

don't those pigs hold a tight formation up there in the sky  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on February 14, 2013, 04:56:31 AM
Quote from: class37025 on February 14, 2013, 12:52:39 AM
don't those pigs hold a tight formation up there in the sky  >:D

Didn't see any mention of a Police helicopter? :laugh:


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on February 14, 2013, 09:29:16 AM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on February 13, 2013, 11:30:00 PM
Quote from: Pengy on February 13, 2013, 10:46:01 PM
for harshness. What annoyed me was why they would be speed checking on a dual carriageway with no history of accidents caused by speeding - unless they were trying to boost their revenue. I'm not anti-speed cameras provided they are located appropriately.

Presumably because they thought there may be a problem in the location. You could always ask them why they picked the spot !

Presumably to catch speeding Pengys  ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on February 14, 2013, 09:52:30 AM
Quote from: Lawrence on February 14, 2013, 09:29:16 AM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on February 13, 2013, 11:30:00 PM
Quote from: Pengy on February 13, 2013, 10:46:01 PM
for harshness. What annoyed me was why they would be speed checking on a dual carriageway with no history of accidents caused by speeding - unless they were trying to boost their revenue. I'm not anti-speed cameras provided they are located appropriately.

Presumably because they thought there may be a problem in the location. You could always ask them why they picked the spot !

Presumably to catch speeding Pengys  ;D

Yes, I was speeding.  Was I driving unsafely? - No. Did I break the law? - Yes. I can't really grumble if I do get caught, I more angry with myself.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on February 14, 2013, 10:08:50 AM
It really is a pain, especially as the endorsements last 4 years, but the points only count for 3 years. A letter dropped through my letterbox last year from the Police Ticketing Office. I thought they were flogging tickets to the Policemans' Ball, but no such luck. £60 down the drain and 3 points.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: hairygit on February 14, 2013, 10:23:06 AM
Whilst I really feel for the stress your having Pengy, the only way to avoid such things is to SLOW DOWN, keep a close eye on your speedo (or set cruise control if you have it). As a biker myself, I've learnt that police really pick on us, so we have to watch our backs at all times. I live in a small village in Devon, and it's a 30 limit, but it seems everyone ignores the fact :veryangry: We get huge artics using our village as a shortcut to the local quarry, and S.W.M.B.O.'s car has been hit 6 times in the last 6 months, and not once has anyone stopped after doing it. The police  done a series of speed checks through here recently, and in one session caught 9 H.G.V.s doing OVER 45m.p.h., and several other motorists caught at over 50m.p.h. and all of them whine about it! Truth is, the limit is a law, if you break it and get caught, nobody else is to blame, whether you consider it safe or not.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on February 14, 2013, 10:42:16 AM
Quote from: hairygit on February 14, 2013, 10:23:06 AM
Whilst I really feel for the stress your having Pengy, the only way to avoid such things is to SLOW DOWN, keep a close eye on your speedo (or set cruise control if you have it). As a biker myself, I've learnt that police really pick on us, so we have to watch our backs at all times. I live in a small village in Devon, and it's a 30 limit, but it seems everyone ignores the fact :veryangry: We get huge artics using our village as a shortcut to the local quarry, and S.W.M.B.O.'s car has been hit 6 times in the last 6 months, and not once has anyone stopped after doing it. The police  done a series of speed checks through here recently, and in one session caught 9 H.G.V.s doing OVER 45m.p.h., and several other motorists caught at over 50m.p.h. and all of them whine about it! Truth is, the limit is a law, if you break it and get caught, nobody else is to blame, whether you consider it safe or not.

This is one of the reasons that I've been on the train a lot more!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on February 14, 2013, 12:14:09 PM
Quote from: whiteswan on February 13, 2013, 08:30:42 PM
Well, I finally succumbed and bought a Dapol FGW HST book set
CAZ !!!

An HST on the Fairford branch tut tut tut.... :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on February 14, 2013, 12:19:41 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on February 14, 2013, 12:14:09 PM
Quote from: whiteswan on February 13, 2013, 08:30:42 PM
Well, I finally succumbed and bought a Dapol FGW HST book set
CAZ !!!

An HST on the Fairford branch tut tut tut.... :laugh:
Be fair ... it breaks down a lot !  :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on February 14, 2013, 01:26:22 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on February 14, 2013, 12:14:09 PM
Quote from: whiteswan on February 13, 2013, 08:30:42 PM
Well, I finally succumbed and bought a Dapol FGW HST book set
CAZ !!!

An HST on the Fairford branch tut tut tut.... :laugh:

When I finally get it fixed it will run from the main terminus and around the double track main line which represents the main line from London to the West.  Sheepishly admits that it will have to go onto the branch  :-[ as that is my reversing loop which will enable the train to come back from the west, but hey, it's my layout and Rule 1 lives   :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on February 14, 2013, 02:30:13 PM
 
Perhaps you could "auto fit it" and stick a 14XX on the front for the branch trip...
OK I should know better than to argue with the fairer se :censored:
:whiteflag: :whiteflag: :whiteflag:

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on February 14, 2013, 03:48:01 PM
Quote from: whiteswan on February 14, 2013, 01:26:22 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on February 14, 2013, 12:14:09 PM
Quote from: whiteswan on February 13, 2013, 08:30:42 PM
Well, I finally succumbed and bought a Dapol FGW HST book set
CAZ !!!

An HST on the Fairford branch tut tut tut.... :laugh:

When I finally get it fixed it will run from the main terminus and around the double track main line which represents the main line from London to the West.  Sheepishly admits that it will have to go onto the branch  :-[ as that is my reversing loop which will enable the train to come back from the west, but hey, it's my layout and Rule 1 lives   :P

. . . Voyagers next >:D ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 14, 2013, 03:49:05 PM
 :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: moogle on February 14, 2013, 04:16:36 PM
Quote from: whiteswan on February 13, 2013, 08:30:42 PM
Well, I finally succumbed and bought a Dapol FGW HST book set

:o Have you been out in the Midday sun too much?  ???
That's the start of the slippery slope of multi coloured worminess!  :no:

Joking aside, as long as it runs, rule 1 applies...  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on February 14, 2013, 05:06:52 PM
Quote from: Pengy on February 14, 2013, 03:48:01 PM
Quote from: whiteswan on February 14, 2013, 01:26:22 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on February 14, 2013, 12:14:09 PM
Quote from: whiteswan on February 13, 2013, 08:30:42 PM
Well, I finally succumbed and bought a Dapol FGW HST book set
CAZ !!!

An HST on the Fairford branch tut tut tut.... :laugh:

When I finally get it fixed it will run from the main terminus and around the double track main line which represents the main line from London to the West.  Sheepishly admits that it will have to go onto the branch  :-[ as that is my reversing loop which will enable the train to come back from the west, but hey, it's my layout and Rule 1 lives   :P

. . . Voyagers next >:D ;D

Go wash your mouth out Pengy, there are limits over which my Rule 1 will not work.  :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on February 14, 2013, 05:07:59 PM
Quote from: moogle on February 14, 2013, 04:16:36 PM
Quote from: whiteswan on February 13, 2013, 08:30:42 PM
Well, I finally succumbed and bought a Dapol FGW HST book set

:o Have you been out in the Midday sun too much?  ???
That's the start of the slippery slope of multi coloured worminess!  :no:

Joking aside, as long as it runs, rule 1 applies...  ;)

And the same goes for you too Moogle, mouth wash immediately.   :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: hairygit on February 14, 2013, 05:18:17 PM
Sorry, Pengy and Moogle are right, if you want to disagree I'll post a video of my Blue Pullman power cars running either end of 6 farish 100 ton bogie tankers! :P :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on February 14, 2013, 05:39:07 PM
Quote from: whiteswan on February 14, 2013, 05:06:52 PM
Quote from: Pengy on February 14, 2013, 03:48:01 PM
Quote from: whiteswan on February 14, 2013, 01:26:22 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on February 14, 2013, 12:14:09 PM
Quote from: whiteswan on February 13, 2013, 08:30:42 PM
Well, I finally succumbed and bought a Dapol FGW HST book set
CAZ !!!

An HST on the Fairford branch tut tut tut.... :laugh:

When I finally get it fixed it will run from the main terminus and around the double track main line which represents the main line from London to the West.  Sheepishly admits that it will have to go onto the branch  :-[ as that is my reversing loop which will enable the train to come back from the west, but hey, it's my layout and Rule 1 lives   :P

. . . Voyagers next >:D ;D

Go wash your mouth out Pengy, there are limits over which my Rule 1 will not work.  :P

. . . will that be a Cross Country or Virgin Voyager that you are ordering then?  :P :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on February 15, 2013, 08:50:49 PM
Quote from: Pengy on February 14, 2013, 05:39:07 PM

. . . will that be a Cross Country or Virgin Voyager that you are ordering then?  :P :P

Definitely neither after my experience with the HST.  As it's the last one Dapol have I spent all day yesterday mending it, turns out the reason the power car lights didn't work was because the red led was missing!  The trailer car derails because the chassis doesn't seem to be assembled correctly causing the bogie pickups to jam on the chassis contacts and the missing white light was because the light pipes weren't fitted correctly.

Have swapped the good light board from the trailer to the power car so that now works fine and have arranged with the retailer to return the trailer chassis and duff light board for replacement.

On the good side, managed to fit drivers and cab lights in the two body shells and the power car runs beautifully from a very slow crawl to a very respectable top speed.  Next to sort out will be the sound, not sure whether I can afford a pair of CT sound decoders, going to see what I can create myself to put on a couple of cheapo Digitrax SDN144's with cube speakers.  The Blue Pullman I did turned out really good, well at least I think so, lets hope the HST can come out similarly well if I go down that route.   :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: moogle on February 15, 2013, 09:35:15 PM
Quote from: whiteswan on February 14, 2013, 05:07:59 PM
Quote from: moogle on February 14, 2013, 04:16:36 PM
Quote from: whiteswan on February 13, 2013, 08:30:42 PM
Well, I finally succumbed and bought a Dapol FGW HST book set

:o Have you been out in the Midday sun too much?  ???
That's the start of the slippery slope of multi coloured worminess!  :no:

Joking aside, as long as it runs, rule 1 applies...  ;)

And the same goes for you too Moogle, mouth wash immediately.   :laugh:

  :-[ mouth washed out. :dighole:

Glad you managed to get part of it going.
By your description it sounds like you got one made on a Friday afternoon...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on February 16, 2013, 10:04:48 AM
Quote from: thebrighton on February 07, 2013, 06:54:47 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on February 07, 2013, 04:38:09 PM
Joyous.. the Royal Mail no longer permit the posting of enamel paints - aerosols and big pots I can see but even tiddly little tinlets are now not allowed



Hi Alan,
Unless it has just changed I thought the limit was 150ml or under so most small modelling tinlets are ok. I've just checked RMs website and this still quotes 150ml.
Gareth

Guys,

I've just recieved a newsletter from Hannants, who are a supplier of plastic model kits, and I'l copy and paste from their email.

Message. Following recently unannounced new rules we regret we are currently unable to despatch certain items through the post by Royal Mail. These include Xtracolor and Humbrol enamel paints, Alclad products, liquid glues etc etc. What they regard as inflammables. Many of our orders are having these items removed and destroyed and then they are returning the rest of the parcel to us.

ParcelForce say they can still accept them for now which is strange as they are essentially the same firm. Now if you put any of the affected items into your cart you will not see the cheaper Royal Mail postage options. Only the more expensive ParcelForce option will be visible and available. Customers who's orders weighed over 2kg will not notice any difference as these were always sent by ParcelForce. You can remove any of these items from your cart to see the Royal Mail postage rates.

Acrylic paints are not affected though they do say we cannot send more than 4 bottles per parcel. 4 x 12ml or 4 x 150ml does not seem to matter so long as it is no more than 4.

This is to the UK AND Overseas.

We do realise that the Royal Mail website says that we can send enamel paints but as mentioned above they are ripping open the parcels keeping the paint and returning the rest to us so in affect we cannot despatch.

We do realise that this is all ridiculous and have told Royal Mail so.

We will keep you informed of any changes to this situation via the weekly Hot News..


Regards

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on February 16, 2013, 05:32:29 PM
Maybe a few modellers work for Royal Mail and just want the paints without having to pay for them? :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on February 19, 2013, 10:43:12 AM
 :hmmm:

Finally got  the last bits to enable me to fit my Seep point motors but can't.
As you will see from another post I am on a modelling ban - frustrating or what.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on February 19, 2013, 11:12:36 AM
Quote from: Oldman on February 19, 2013, 10:43:12 AM
:hmmm:

Finally got  the last bits to enable me to fit my Seep point motors but can't.
As you will see from another post I am on a modelling ban - frustrating or what.

That's because Jazzy is under orders to make sure you are behaving yourself Mike and following doctors orders  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on February 19, 2013, 11:21:31 AM
Quote from: Lawrence on February 19, 2013, 11:12:36 AM
That's because Jazzy is under orders to make sure you are behaving yourself Mike and following doctors orders  :D

Bah Humbug!!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on February 19, 2013, 11:32:11 AM
Come on you know Midsommer Murders is on this afternoon thats what you really want ! Nurse Jazzy is in charge. :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on February 19, 2013, 12:35:34 PM
Quote from: Oldman on February 19, 2013, 11:21:31 AM
Quote from: Lawrence on February 19, 2013, 11:12:36 AM
That's because Jazzy is under orders to make sure you are behaving yourself Mike and following doctors orders  :D

Bah Humbug!!!!

:laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: ;D ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on February 21, 2013, 08:14:42 PM
I bought a couple of things via paypal and I've sent them back and they have returned the money to my paypal account,paypal have put a hold on it and when I try to get into paypal using the link in my ebay all there is is a blank page.

The only way I can get into paypal is by using Google,when I try to log in my log in details are rejected.After jumping through several hoops I got into a chat session in ebay,the person there said that paypal holding my money was nothing to do with ebay. :veryangry:

She then posted a link to paypal,but as usual its just a faq session and if the problem doesn't come under the choices that are available it seems pretty useless. :veryangry:

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on February 21, 2013, 08:23:14 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on February 21, 2013, 08:14:42 PM
I bought a couple of things via paypal and I've sent them back and they have returned the money to my paypal account,paypal have put a hold on it and when I try to get into paypal using the link in my ebay all there is is a blank page.

The only way I can get into paypal is by using Google,when I try to log in my log in details are rejected.After jumping through several hoops I got into a chat session in ebay,the person there said that paypal holding my money was nothing to do with ebay. :veryangry:

She then posted a link to paypal,but as usual its just a faq session and if the problem doesn't come under the choices that are available it seems pretty useless. :veryangry:

Allan

How annoying!  I've been there so many times. :veryangry:  Paypal are really helpful on the phone and can sort your account out immediately.  A pain having to phone, but it really is fast.  I was emailed once saying that my account was suspended awaiting information (I'd already used the account for 9 years) and I would hear from them within 48 hours reactivating my account.  Well, I emailed them a few times, then two weeks later I called them and they sorted everything out within a minute.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on February 21, 2013, 08:30:11 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on February 21, 2013, 08:14:42 PM
chat session in ebay,the person there said that paypal holding my money was nothing to do with ebay. :veryangry:

Usual problem I find - they employ staff on the far side of the globe who are quite frequently it seems clueless, and any who are can't help anyway because the system won't trust them.

Rewind a bit

- Clear the web browser cache/cookies (or use a different browser 8))
- Go to paypal
- See if you can then log in
- If not follow the "lost my password" link and reset it via email.

If there is a hold on the money then you should still be able to log in, it's just they are sitting on the money until it's cleared/settled (which shouldn't take long if the seller refunded it of choice).

Paypal is ebay if you follow corporate ownership lines but not for staff or most other purposes.

Phone may not help - Paypal certainly only used to give phone numbers to people who used it lots.

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on February 22, 2013, 10:01:23 PM
Further to my previous post,I can log into paypal now.

Did that and see that paypal have held my refund back while they review it. :veryangry:
To me that's just another way for them to have the use of the money for a bit longer,I cant get them to answer my query as to why its on hold because the refund has not been completed yet,talk about going round in circles.

Allan :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on February 23, 2013, 11:26:46 AM

Got a further update from Hannants yesterday regarding the no paints in the post saga from Royal Mail.

Message. Regarding the problems we are having posting out paints we are sorry but there is no good news. We have been told that this situation will not change and has originated from the airlines and also applies to surface rates as they cannot guarantee the parcel will not go by air at some point it it's journey. We cannot send enamel paints and a few other items like Zap glues etc unless it goes by ParcelForce who are more expensive than Royal Mail. We get no pleasure or money from this because it goes to ParcelForce. Our website has been modified so if you put any items in your cart that Royal Mail will not take you will only see the ParcelForce rates. We are aware that there are a few other shops that can still send paints and we have been told they are not allowed to either and it is only because they have not been spotted yet and over time they will also be stopped. We advise you to buy as much paint as you can from your local model shop, at shows, my post from anyone who can still send it or, of course, from us and have it sent by ParcelForce. Stock up now. We are continuing to look for a firm that will take enamels. If you know any please do let us know....

Regards

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on February 23, 2013, 11:33:26 AM
Quote from: Calnefoxile on February 23, 2013, 11:26:46 AM

Got a further update from Hannants yesterday regarding the no paints in the post saga from Royal Mail.

Message. We advise you to buy as much paint as you can from your local model shop, at shows, my post from anyone who can still send it or, of course, from us and have it sent by ParcelForce. Stock up now. We are continuing to look for a firm that will take enamels. If you know any please do let us know....

Regards

Neal.

This seems grimmer than I first thought - I'd not appreciated that the local model shops might also be affected by this too.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on February 23, 2013, 02:08:29 PM
Thats what you get for flying post around instead of using trains ;)

I wouldn't expect model shops to have big problems. Lots of the freight shippers and couriers routinely deal with large quantities of non-air products including acetone., phone batteries and the like, all of which are a good deal more hazardous than pots of paint.

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on February 23, 2013, 02:24:42 PM
I think the problem with using air transport could well be due to the air pressure getting less as the plane goes higher, and the extra ground pressure of the air in the paint tins forces the lids open.

About forty years ago when I was into slot racing it happened a lot to bottles of goop from the States until they realised what was causing the bottles to go..pop.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on February 23, 2013, 02:26:03 PM
Its considered a fire risk, and exploding cargo on a plane is very very dangerous, while cargo fires on a freight train are merely a real nuisance.

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on February 24, 2013, 12:39:46 PM
Following on from my problem about getting a refund from paypal,I did manage to contact them yesterday and received the following reply today................



Thank you for contacting PayPal.

I am Arra and I will do my very best to make sure that you get all the required help regarding your concern.

Let me inform you that your refund for the amount of £5.00 and £41.84  will be credited to your PayPal balance on the 27 February 2013.

Allow me to explain why refund is placed on "temporary hold."

As I can see payment made was funded by your bank account. Please take note requests of payment using a bank account is not automatically charged from your account as it goes through clearing process which may take from 5-7 working days. In order for the seller to get the payment instantly, PayPal funds the transaction while waiting 5-7 working days for the bank to clear money requested, therefore refunded or cancelled transactions will be on temporary hold. Funds will be credited to your balance once it clears from your bank.


Requests made to a bank can not be cancelled, your account will still be charged and you just need to wait 5-7 business days before money is cleared and be credited to your PayPal balance. You may use it to fund future transactions (balance in your PayPal account is automatically used first to cover purchases) or transfer if back to your bank account ( log in to your PayPal account and click " Withdraw").

We appreciate your cooperation and patience with this matter.

I am glad I was able to help you today. Should you need further assistance, please do not hesitate to email us back.

Thank you for choosing PayPal.

Yours sincerely,
Arra
PayPal


Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 24, 2013, 02:50:15 PM
A straight reply.
Geddit? Straight as an Arra?
Oh, please yourselves - I'll get me coat :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on February 24, 2013, 03:32:35 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on February 24, 2013, 02:50:15 PM
A straight reply.
Geddit? Straight as an Arra?
Oh, please yourselves - I'll get me coat :-[

Have you forgotten to take your medication, again?  ;)

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on February 24, 2013, 04:37:41 PM
I know he takes those little blue pills so he doesn't roll out of bed at night. :o

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on February 24, 2013, 05:27:28 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on February 24, 2013, 02:50:15 PM
A straight reply.
Geddit? Straight as an Arra?
Oh, please yourselves - I'll get me coat :-[

I think you will find that several of us have it ready for you  ;)  ;D ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on February 25, 2013, 08:45:23 AM
Sometimes I play on my Xbox and I'm now not going to pay for any more downloadable addons.

All down loads have to be purchased with tokens which are purchased first,the minimum amount is 500 tokens,so if I want a download costing 800 tokens I have to buy a 1000 tokens leaving me with 200 tokens credit.So I've actually paid more than the cost of the download.

If Microsoft can take the correct money to buy tokens,why can't they take the money for the download and not bother with tokens.
Bill Gates has enough money without me adding to his coffers.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on February 25, 2013, 08:55:01 AM
Allan - what annoys me is that if I want to game online with the xbox I have to pay extra for the xbox live gold over and above what I pay for my broadband.  There were a couple of racing games and and one of the CoD I used to play online but I am fed up handing money out to Microsoft all the time  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on February 25, 2013, 09:14:36 AM
Sorry, but I can't sympathise with you guys - you knew this was the charging mechanism when you started it and were happy then ... same with those complaining about monthly subscription games  :no:

If you don't want to pay, find other games - or do something more rewarding than sitting in front of an Xbox for hours on end  :unimpressed:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on February 25, 2013, 11:36:39 AM
Quote from: MikeDunn on February 25, 2013, 09:14:36 AM
Sorry, but I can't sympathise with you guys - you knew this was the charging mechanism when you started it and were happy then ... same with those complaining about monthly subscription games  :no:

If you don't want to pay, find other games - or do something more rewarding than sitting in front of an Xbox for hours on end  :unimpressed:

Actually Mike I wasn't aware when I first purchased my xbox (perhaps a lack of research on my part) and as far as I recall there is no such additional cost on the Playstation (please correct if this is not the case).

When I had a disc removed from my back two years ago and was unable to walk further than the loo, online gaming actually kept me (relatively) sane whilst the boss was at work all day, being pretty much disabled for the initial 6 weeks gave me a whole new outlook on life and I am only grateful it was temporary for me, I did at least have some 'virtual' interaction with other humans and was actually able to speak to them too and I can assure you, whether you are permanently or temporarily disabled it does help to raise your spirits.

As for your final statement, I don't believe you have the right to come on here and judge me and my lifestyle (or what you poorly perceive it to be) especially as you know nothing about me.  When this forum started and I started to help Tank run it I was spending several hours a day on here, it took over my life for the best part of two years, I trust you don't think that was time wasted.

So I have taken a break from the forum so that I can get back to having time with my family, rediscovering I have some train stuff out in the shed and perhaps a bit of gaming if time permits.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on February 25, 2013, 11:49:37 AM
Quote from: Lawrence on February 25, 2013, 11:36:39 AM
Actually Mike I wasn't aware when I first purchased my xbox (perhaps a lack of research on my part) and as far as I recall there is no such additional cost on the Playstation (please correct if this is not the case).
Tut tut  ;) ... and consider yourself corrected - they use the same principles.  AFAIK, only the Wii is exempt from that format - but they have a similar one for certain downloadables.

Quote
When I had a disc removed from my back two years ago
I sympathise there; not been that bad, but I did have a lumbar disc issue back in the 90's (that occasionally gives me bother even now) that knocked me off my feet for weeks ...  Devices like we have now would have been a Godsend then.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on February 25, 2013, 01:00:25 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on February 25, 2013, 09:14:36 AM
Sorry, but I can't sympathise with you guys - you knew this was the charging mechanism when you started it and were happy then ... same with those complaining about monthly subscription games  :no:

If you don't want to pay, find other games - or do something more rewarding than sitting in front of an Xbox for hours on end  :unimpressed:

Well thanks for that insight,just because there is no alternative doesn't mean I'm happy about buying tokens so don't presume to know what makes me angry or not.

I knew what the charging system was,I'm angry that there is no way to just pay for downloads without ending up with being forced to buy excess credits.

I don't know how old you are but you might come to a time in your life when circumstances work against you and you are basically a prisoner in your own home.
I've been there,got the tee shirt and the mug.

If you think constant hospital visits are more rewarding than playing games I can assure you they're not.

Allan


Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dock Shunter on February 25, 2013, 01:36:43 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on February 25, 2013, 11:49:37 AM
Quote from: Lawrence on February 25, 2013, 11:36:39 AM

Tut tut  ;) ... and consider yourself corrected - they use the same principles.  AFAIK, only the Wii is exempt from that format
Quote



Actually Mike you are wrong......Unlike Xbox where you have to pay a subscription (XBox live Gold)it doesn't cost anything extra to play online on the Playstation.
(Xbox gamer who plays Fifa Soccer and Battlefield 3  online)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on February 25, 2013, 02:54:18 PM
I used to be an Xbox 360 developer (well, technically still am, just haven't done any in a while as iOS dev is more profitable and marginally less stressful) so I can give some reasonably considered input on the Xbox LIVE points system.

The plus side of points rather than 'real' money values on items is that it's fully international. An item or game costs the same number of points whatever country you're in. That simplifies a lot of the system but also means that in-game store links don't have to check with a server to find out what the local price is based on your country code (something we have to do for iPhone IAP for instance. Not a huge deal but does make for a slightly cleaner system).

The upside for Microsoft (and the developers/publishers) is that it mentally detaches the concept of money from the items. As players have a habit of assuming developers do everything for free anyway and anything you download has no monetary value, they tend to balk when told something costs actual money. That little bit of detachment by showing them as x points instead of x pence actually decreases the chance they'll think "oh, this valuable work the developer did will actually cost me money" and increases the chance they'll spend some points (it works the same in 'freemium' style games where you have various in-game currencies that you earn in-game or buy with money).

Of course it also works like company scrip in that it locks your money into the system, but that's commerce for you. It does give them the option to give you an advantage for buying more points in advance though. If you plan what you're going to be buying on Xbox LIVE and are really careful tracking what you're spending, you can end up with better deals buying the larger point packs if you're spending a lot of points. It does ramp up pretty quickly though.

The big plus side of XBox LIVE's subscription vs free online services on other platforms is that it gives actual value to the service. So if you get banned for being a git, it actually costs you. Thus you don't act like a git so you won't get banned. (this also works for internet forums too btw. Something Awful.com is a really good forum that costs you $10 membership and has *very* strict rules, which users stick to or lose their $10).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on February 25, 2013, 04:22:39 PM
Quote from: Dock Shunter on February 25, 2013, 01:36:43 PM
Actually Mike you are wrong......
No, just not specific enough; they charge for additional downloadable content, yes ?
https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/#!/en-us/games/addons/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-hearthfire/cid=UP1003-BLUS30778_00-DLCHEARTHFIRE0EN (https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/#!/en-us/games/addons/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-hearthfire/cid=UP1003-BLUS30778_00-DLCHEARTHFIRE0EN) as an example.  This is what I was thinking about with my comment (but it's good to know they don't force a subscription onto you - same for the Wii).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on February 26, 2013, 09:51:21 AM
 :uneasy: :unimpressed:
Man Flue !!  :veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on February 26, 2013, 10:00:25 AM
No such thing! Take a Lemsip and get on with it ;D


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on February 26, 2013, 11:29:50 AM
Quote from: Sprintex on February 26, 2013, 10:00:25 AM
No such thing! Take a Lemsip and get on with it ;D
Paul

There are WOMEN on this Forum!.
OF COURSE MAN FLU EXISTS> IT IS A SERIOUS DISEASE THAT MAKES US MORE INCAPABLE OF DOING THINGS AROUND THE HOUSE THAN USUAL

In fact I think I am catching it now, I think Jonclox is infecting my keyboard.....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on February 26, 2013, 11:45:22 AM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on February 26, 2013, 11:29:50 AM
There are WOMEN on this Forum!.

There certainly are, and I doubt any of them are daft enough to fall for that man flu rubbish :laugh:


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on February 26, 2013, 12:42:06 PM
Hey, it's worth a try !!!  :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on February 26, 2013, 02:10:00 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on February 26, 2013, 11:29:50 AM
Quote from: Sprintex on February 26, 2013, 10:00:25 AM
No such thing! Take a Lemsip and get on with it ;D
Paul

There are WOMEN on this Forum!.
OF COURSE MAN FLU EXISTS> IT IS A SERIOUS DISEASE THAT MAKES US MORE INCAPABLE OF DOING THINGS AROUND THE HOUSE THAN USUAL

In fact I think I am catching it now, I think Jonclox is infecting my keyboard.....
Thats how I caught it  :veryangry: sorry folks and do  remember that women only suffer a milder version of it
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on February 26, 2013, 04:38:16 PM
Man Flu is real M'lord.. so says a female expert.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7505207/Man-flu-is-no-myth-as-scientists-prove-men-suffer-more-from-disease.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7505207/Man-flu-is-no-myth-as-scientists-prove-men-suffer-more-from-disease.html)

I rest my case.  :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on February 26, 2013, 05:00:13 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on February 26, 2013, 11:45:22 AM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on February 26, 2013, 11:29:50 AM
There are WOMEN on this Forum!.

There certainly are, and I doubt any of them are daft enough to fall for that man flu rubbish :laugh:


Paul

A bit of a cold and lazyitess me thinks,  >:D  I'm sure you men use it to try and get the sympathy vote.   :-X
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on February 26, 2013, 05:04:27 PM
Quote from: whiteswan on February 26, 2013, 05:00:13 PM

A bit of a cold and lazyitess me thinks,  >:D  I'm sure you men use it to try and get the sympathy vote.   :-X

Caz,

Your point being.......what exactly??  ;) ;) ;)

Regards

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on February 26, 2013, 05:08:03 PM
Quote from: Calnefoxile on February 26, 2013, 05:04:27 PM
Quote from: whiteswan on February 26, 2013, 05:00:13 PM

A bit of a cold and lazyitess me thinks,  >:D  I'm sure you men use it to try and get the sympathy vote.   :-X

Caz,

Your point being.......what exactly??  ;) ;) ;)

Regards

Neal.

I wanted to say that!!  :laugh:

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on February 26, 2013, 08:25:30 PM
Quote from: Jack9465 on February 26, 2013, 04:38:16 PM
Man Flu is real M'lord.. so says a female expert.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7505207/Man-flu-is-no-myth-as-scientists-prove-men-suffer-more-from-disease.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7505207/Man-flu-is-no-myth-as-scientists-prove-men-suffer-more-from-disease.html)

I rest my case.  :P

Quote from: article
"A team at the University of Cambridge came up with the theory by applying a mathematical model to the various factors that characterise males and females."
That's a reliable basis then!  :laugh:

And as if our female members needed more ammo . . .
Quote from: articlemales tend to be the "weaker sex"

Wait for the fallout from that :D


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on February 26, 2013, 10:35:46 PM
Quote from: jonclox on February 26, 2013, 02:10:00 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on February 26, 2013, 11:29:50 AM
Quote from: Sprintex on February 26, 2013, 10:00:25 AM
No such thing! Take a Lemsip and get on with it ;D
Paul

There are WOMEN on this Forum!.
OF COURSE MAN FLU EXISTS> IT IS A SERIOUS DISEASE THAT MAKES US MORE INCAPABLE OF DOING THINGS AROUND THE HOUSE THAN USUAL

In fact I think I am catching it now, I think Jonclox is infecting my keyboard.....
Thats how I caught it  :veryangry: sorry folks and do  remember that women only suffer a milder version of it

Don't women get bird flu instead?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on February 26, 2013, 10:39:58 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on February 26, 2013, 10:35:46 PM
Quote from: jonclox on February 26, 2013, 02:10:00 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on February 26, 2013, 11:29:50 AM
Quote from: Sprintex on February 26, 2013, 10:00:25 AM
No such thing! Take a Lemsip and get on with it ;D
Paul

There are WOMEN on this Forum!.
OF COURSE MAN FLU EXISTS> IT IS A SERIOUS DISEASE THAT MAKES US MORE INCAPABLE OF DOING THINGS AROUND THE HOUSE THAN USUAL

In fact I think I am catching it now, I think Jonclox is infecting my keyboard.....
Thats how I caught it  :veryangry: sorry folks and do  remember that women only suffer a milder version of it

Don't women get bird flu instead?

:laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:

I'm am so prepared to take the incoming flak but that really made me chuckle mate  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on February 27, 2013, 03:06:10 PM
I find some women are very greedy with illnesses. A female friend of mine was complaining of a cough and thought she had a cold. Turns out she has double pneumonia!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on February 28, 2013, 03:07:57 PM
I have just made a Fox Transfers order online and I've just remember that I should have added the 'C1' transfers.  I couldn't find them and then I forgot to look again when I came back to the computer. :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on February 28, 2013, 04:05:55 PM
Quote from: Tank on February 28, 2013, 03:07:57 PM
I have just made a Fox Transfers order online and I've just remember that I should have added the 'C1' transfers.  I couldn't find them and then I forgot to look again when I came back to the computer. :doh:

Now you know how the more mature of us feel every single blasted day  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on February 28, 2013, 05:05:55 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on February 28, 2013, 04:05:55 PM
Quote from: Tank on February 28, 2013, 03:07:57 PM
I have just made a Fox Transfers order online and I've just remember that I should have added the 'C1' transfers.  I couldn't find them and then I forgot to look again when I came back to the computer. :doh:

Now you know how the more mature of us feel every single blasted day  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:

Sing the song - Senior Moment = Brain Fart!  :claphappy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on February 28, 2013, 05:10:04 PM
Quote from: Tank on February 28, 2013, 03:07:57 PM
I have just made a Fox Transfers order online and I've just remember that I should have added the 'C1' transfers.  I couldn't find them and then I forgot to look again when I came back to the computer. :doh:

Phone em and see if the order has gone out yet.. you may be in luck
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 28, 2013, 08:15:58 PM
People who shove post or charity bags/menus for local take aways through the letter box but leave them half in/half out so I pay to heat the street.

Bin persons who think it's funny to leave the wheelie bin in the middle of the drive so you have to get out and move it before you can park outside your own home.

Why have I never got a gun when they're around :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on February 28, 2013, 08:37:25 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on February 28, 2013, 08:15:58 PM
People who shove post or charity bags/menus for local take aways through the letter box but leave them half in/half out so I pay to heat the street.



Being a postie I've had a few spats with leaflet deliverers. Many a time I've had to finish posting the leaflet only half pushed through the box so I can post my letters. I normally ask them if I can have a cut of their pay as I'm doing half their job for them. Sometimes they can be very rude :o although round here they're usually Polish and have no idea what you're saying!
Then of course there's the binmen whom leave every empty bin wedged in gateways so you have to move it to get up the path >:D
Gareth
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mickeyflinn on February 28, 2013, 09:22:34 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on February 28, 2013, 08:15:58 PM
Bin persons who think it's funny to leave the wheelie bin in the middle of the drive so you have to get out and move it before you can park outside your own home

My wife is a nurse, and one of her patients was a binman.
She asked him why they couldn't put the bin back where they found it - his answer was that it would add about 3 hours (!!!) to their round if they did that.
I don't know what it's like in the rest of the country, but binmen have always been on " job and finish" around here.
We don't want them to have to work any later than dinner time, do we!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on February 28, 2013, 09:54:23 PM
In some parts of  the world they solved that problem many years ago. As the bins in question were owned by the council not the householder they emptied the bin from house 1, took it to house 2, swapped it for the bin in house 2, emptied that, took it to house 3 and so on!

I assume house 1 got the last bin on the way back.

Alan

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on March 01, 2013, 08:41:14 AM
Our bins now get emptied between 6am and 9pm, which means we have to put it out the night before and yesterday I checked at 20:45 and it still wasn't emptied, didn't check this morning so it can flaming well wait there all day till I get home  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on March 01, 2013, 08:50:38 AM
Luckily up here in the mountains we have communial bins as most of the village is inaccessible to even a small dustcart. We have 4 different bins card/paper, Bottle bank that includes (Glass/metal/plastic), general rubbish and now a kitchen oil recycling bin!   For some strange reason they added an extra bottle bank soon after we moved here :pint: No idea why!!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: H on March 01, 2013, 09:43:56 AM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on February 28, 2013, 09:54:23 PM
In some parts of  the world they solved that problem many years ago. As the bins in question were owned by the council not the householder they emptied the bin from house 1, took it to house 2, swapped it for the bin in house 2, emptied that, took it to house 3 and so on!


That wouldn't work around here. We get a choice of bin size, and stickers to identify which house number it belongs to, so you'd end up with the wrong size probably the first week.

H.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: moogle on March 01, 2013, 10:08:11 AM
Our bins are usually collected on a Friday between 7.15 am, when they have to be out by, and whenever!
To be fair though its usually by mid afternoon.

We have 2 wheelie bins, one for greenery and one for non recyclable stuff, each collected alternate weeks.
Then we have 2 boxes for recyclable stuff and a small brown bin for kitchen waste, all collected weekly.
Started last October and it does work well.  :)

Except for the fact that each household should have a set of the above and out of the 4 flats in this building we've only received 2 sets!   >:(
Was only one to start with, I badgered the council for more but alas only one more has been delivered.  :veryangry:
Despite promising 3!  :veryangry2:

Our council can be completely useless  :censored: at times!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on March 01, 2013, 11:37:40 AM
Quote from: H on March 01, 2013, 09:43:56 AM
That wouldn't work around here. We get a choice of bin size, and stickers to identify which house number it belongs to, so you'd end up with the wrong size probably the first week.

H.

See in sensible places that problem doesn't occur because someone with a calculator realises that the savings on bin collecting time and handling are such that it's better to give everyone the same sized bin even if some are "too large".

It's the usual British disease, saving pennies by burning pounds  :veryangry: :veryangry:

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: H on March 01, 2013, 12:07:58 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on March 01, 2013, 11:37:40 AM

See in sensible places that problem doesn't occur because someone with a calculator realises that the savings on bin collecting time and handling are such that it's better to give everyone the same sized bin even if some are "too large".


It's far nicer to have a council that listens and provides what people want, and far nicer than getting someones grotty, smelly bin that has had nappies and unmentionable other nasties in it and needs washing out.

And our binmen collect from the rear passageway so the plan of emptying one and taking it back to the next house would take longer than the way they currently work by collecting them and emptying them all in one swoop. Horses for courses really, what works well in one place is not always best for others.

I have to admit that the rubbish collection service we get is very good and these comments should be in the happy thread rather than the angry thread.  :)

H.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 01, 2013, 02:20:10 PM
Quote from: H on March 01, 2013, 09:43:56 AM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on February 28, 2013, 09:54:23 PM
In some parts of  the world they solved that problem many years ago. As the bins in question were owned by the council not the householder they emptied the bin from house 1, took it to house 2, swapped it for the bin in house 2, emptied that, took it to house 3 and so on!


That wouldn't work around here. We get a choice of bin size, and stickers to identify which house number it belongs to, so you'd end up with the wrong size probably the first week.



H.

also wouldn't work  with councils like ours, as all bins have a chip in them which is registered against the address, so they can, if they wish, monitor each house's waste, and presumeably in time , start to charge by how much you bin.

excuse was initially that it was cheaper to have the chips fitted than not !

yer, right, honestly we do believe you !  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on March 01, 2013, 02:43:52 PM
Our rubbish collection around here is very good and reliable even though it is only household one week, recycling the next. This does mean we have 2 large wheelie bins, a blue box and a bag. However last week we had a letter from the council saying we are getting a 3rd large wheelie bin and they are changing what goes in each. Recycling is fair enough and I'm happy to do it but where on earth am I supposed to store 3 large wheelie bins? SWMBO wants a conservatory but I think the bins will have to come first!
Gareth
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: H on March 01, 2013, 03:05:46 PM
Quote from: class37025 on March 01, 2013, 02:20:10 PM

also wouldn't work  with councils like ours, as all bins have a chip in them which is registered against the address, so they can, if they wish, monitor each house's waste, and presumeably in time , start to charge by how much you bin.


Apparently it's quite common for bins to be fitted with chips and yep, was suposed to be a prelude to charging by amount disposed of. I do know of people who have removed the chips and chucked them out in the rubbish (apparently there's also a lot wrapped in foil and on the roof of Fords Dunton research building) and others who deliberately mixed up the bins when delivered.

H.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on March 01, 2013, 03:35:46 PM
The chip in my bin fell out.....  :whistle:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on March 01, 2013, 04:09:24 PM
I'm sure we are only supposed to put chips in the food bin  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on March 01, 2013, 06:03:12 PM
Can you put a sound chip in it I wonder?  :D

Could make train noises every time it's moved, would have to be the sound of a Class 67 (skip) eh?  ;D


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on March 01, 2013, 06:08:41 PM
Think yourselves fortunate! We have to use black bin bags!  >:( Have you seen what cats, dogs and seagulls do to black bin bags? Oh and yes I do wrap the bags under an industrial sheet as directed but that doesn't stop cats and dogs from getting in, which in then lets the seagulls in.  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on March 03, 2013, 11:53:28 AM
I spent an hour last night finishing the decals on my Class 207, only to find this morning that the white numbers have turned brown, whereas the other end is still crisp white! ??? :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 03, 2013, 12:25:18 PM
Self weathering decals! That's a first :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on March 03, 2013, 12:48:47 PM
Quote from: Jack9465 on March 01, 2013, 06:08:41 PM
Think yourselves fortunate! We have to use black bin bags!  >:( Have you seen what cats, dogs and seagulls do to black bin bags? Oh and yes I do wrap the bags under an industrial sheet as directed but that doesn't stop cats and dogs from getting in, which in then lets the seagulls in.  :veryangry:

Same here but it's foxes and magies rather than gulls.

I complained to the/our local councillor responsible for the environment about the mess lack of bins causes. The reply was that 'supplying bins encourages waste.'

I think the lady is on a different planet to the rest of us!

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on March 03, 2013, 01:32:21 PM
Quote from: daveg on March 03, 2013, 12:48:47 PM
I complained to the/our local councillor responsible for the environment about the mess lack of bins causes. The reply was that 'supplying bins encourages waste.'

I think the lady is on a different planet to the rest of us!

Dave G

A perfect quote to give to the local press if you have one.
Councilors seem to forget they are elected, so I hope you can spread the word about this one  ;)

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: petercharlesfagg on March 07, 2013, 05:58:47 PM
Paying road tax of £170.00 when I drive less than 5,000 miles/year, yet other neighbours pay only £35.00 and drive thousands of miles per annum!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 07, 2013, 06:09:41 PM
Guess we're stuck with road tax being based on emissions (in which case I personally should be taxed :-[), but I am a firm believer in the tax being absorbed into fuel costs so those who do the miles pay the most. However, do I really believe any Government or related body would come up with a fair system ???
That'll be a no then :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on March 07, 2013, 07:02:36 PM
Dentist  :(
2 ampules of anesthetic, 8 jabs
Something akin to molten lava applied to tooth
Then something else that tasted like sulphuric acid applied to tooth
Various plastic and metal parts clunking around my face
End result - tooth the same but mouth & jaw a lot sorer than it was when I went in.
My dentist is a lovely lady, but....................
:(

at least I didn't  :'(

but I wanted to  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 07, 2013, 07:06:52 PM
Having a wisdom tooth put in, then? :-X
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on March 07, 2013, 07:18:21 PM
The most painful part of going to the dentist is extraction of the money to pay for it all
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on March 07, 2013, 07:33:23 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 07, 2013, 07:06:52 PM
Having a wisdom tooth put in, then? :-X

I don't know, you disrupt your day to make an urgent phone call to a friend to help him out and this is the kind of abuse you get  :o
and as for PCF giving you a thank you for your comment
(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/guns/big-machine-gun.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/shooting.gun-emoticon-464.html)  take that Peter

:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 07, 2013, 07:40:20 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on March 07, 2013, 07:33:23 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 07, 2013, 07:06:52 PM
Having a wisdom tooth put in, then? :-X

I don't know, you disrupt your day to make an urgent phone call to a friend

That's true - you did something today :D
(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/securedownload.jpg)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on March 07, 2013, 08:01:15 PM
Quote from: petercharlesfagg on March 07, 2013, 05:58:47 PM
Paying road tax of £170.00 when I drive less than 5,000 miles/year, yet other neighbours pay only £35.00 and drive thousands of miles per annum!

And a large part of the additional road taxation is on the fuel. So you are doing just fine.

Now as a non driver I want to know why I can't have a choice between a driving license and 20% off on public transport  :angel:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: petercharlesfagg on March 08, 2013, 06:07:22 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on March 07, 2013, 07:33:23 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 07, 2013, 07:06:52 PM
Having a wisdom tooth put in, then? :-X

I don't know, you disrupt your day to make an urgent phone call to a friend to help him out and this is the kind of abuse you get  :o
and as for PCF giving you a thank you for your comment
(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/guns/big-machine-gun.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/shooting.gun-emoticon-464.html)  take that Peter

:D

My my we do get uppity don't we, must be the truth?

I sympathise with you but at the same time laugh because I have only 6 teeth left of my own, the NHS ones are so much easier!

Regards Peter.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on March 09, 2013, 04:10:04 PM
 :veryangry: Call centres who make requested appointments and then forget to email the guy its made for to turn up for that appointment  :veryangry:
A day wasted here  >:( :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on March 10, 2013, 10:18:54 PM
My own stupid self for not reading the (slow to arrive) eBay mails and ranting on here first.....

....didn't name the auction in progress but if it is being run by anybody on here sorry! (Hence why I deleted my previous comment).

:-[ :-[ :-[

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: petercharlesfagg on March 11, 2013, 03:11:01 PM
My friends and family thought that they were doing me a favour by purchasing gift vouchers on Amazon as birthday gifts recently.

I now have £60.00 that is virtually useless for purchasing any "N" gauge items, especially using it towards a locomotive!

I emailed Amazon to request that they stocked something I really wanted but was informed that the item was:- "Out of stock and unlikely to be in stock ever again!" 

But the images and information remain!

As you are aware there is no other way of utilising the monies once added to your account!

Grrr, Grrr, gnashing of teeth!

Regards Peter.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on March 11, 2013, 03:41:06 PM
I don't know if you can do it these days but using them to buy vouchers for other people ? I spend mine on train books now and then but mostly on household stuff (it's the easiest way to get really good low-energy lightbulbs - 35W+ ones that actually are really *bright* - in fact so bright half the reviews are about how well the reviewers 'plants' grew  ::) )
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MinZaPint on March 11, 2013, 05:45:37 PM
Quote from: petercharlesfagg on March 11, 2013, 03:11:01 PM

Grrr, Grrr, gnashing of teeth!

Regards Peter.

If I recall your previous posts correctly, that'll be another trip to the dentist then!

(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/sick/dentist.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/dentist-emoticon-1302.html)  :-X before  :D  :laugh3:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: petercharlesfagg on March 11, 2013, 06:03:29 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on March 11, 2013, 03:41:06 PM
I don't know if you can do it these days but using them to buy vouchers for other people ? I spend mine on train books now and then but mostly on household stuff (it's the easiest way to get really good low-energy lightbulbs - 35W+ ones that actually are really *bright* - in fact so bright half the reviews are about how well the reviewers 'plants' grew  ::) )

Thankyou for the thought, as it is I have ordered one of those Tomix N Gauge track cleaners direct from Japan, it will take 3 weeks delivery but since I have no track laid, as yet, it will be ready when I have!

Regards Peter.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on March 11, 2013, 08:38:45 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 07, 2013, 07:06:52 PM
Having a wisdom tooth put in, then? :-X
Help is on the way tho........

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2013/mar/09/tooth-replacement-mouse-cells (http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2013/mar/09/tooth-replacement-mouse-cells)

You got to love those rodents  :drool:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on March 15, 2013, 05:16:31 PM
Took dog out this morning for walkies, and saw that some scrote has stolen a concrete planter that has stood outside the house for 6 years. It would have needed two to carry it as it was big and heavy, plus full of soil. Hope they both got hernias! Cops notified and been round with crime number, but reckon it is gone. Might be worth looking at the local boot fairs on Sunday (instead of Nottingham Train Show!!!), but more likely gone to reclamation yard as they might think it is solid stone and antique, which it isn't. Needless to say, the guard dog slept though it all!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: petercharlesfagg on March 15, 2013, 06:30:59 PM
Friends,
As you are aware I have constructed a baseboard that can be lifted flat against the wall to utilise the space underneath as and when required.

I have recently spent somewhere around 12 hours laying track and all that entails and I ensured that a wagon would negotiate the curves and straights without any difficulty!

Great stuff!

Early this morning I received a telephone call from a potential customer to view my products.

Went out to showroom this morning, grabbed the baseboard and with a heave lifted it up.....................

Crash, rip, +_)*&^%$£"!  (Or words to that effect)

I had forgotten to cut the track where it crossed the gap between the lifting section and the fixed and ripped up several yards of trackwork!

----------------------------------------------------------------"---------------------------------------------------------

After a soothing cup of coffee and a browse on the internet I felt calm enough to meet my potential customer.

He never showed his car broke down outside Oxford!!!!!

Needless to say I have spent my afternoon chucking the bent trackwork and starting afresh, only this time I WILL REMEMBER to cut the trackwork!

Regards Peter.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on March 15, 2013, 06:37:14 PM
At least you did not do it in front of your customer and it is never good to hear when these things happen but I would bet you will not do that again.

I hope it does not set you back by too much and you can get back to where you were before that fateful moment.

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on March 15, 2013, 06:40:47 PM
I know how you feel Peter, I did similar after doing my hillside scenery, for the road surface I used card painted black and to avoid too many joins did it in one piece going over the join between 2 boards thinking that once dry I could slide a knife between the boards and make a cut to separate the 2 boards.  Completely forgot about the cut and so when I tried to take the 2 boards apart ripped the road surface to shreads.   :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: petercharlesfagg on March 15, 2013, 06:44:06 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on March 15, 2013, 06:37:14 PM
At least you did not do it in front of your customer and it is never good to hear when these things happen but I would bet you will not do that again.

I hope it does not set you back by too much and you can get back to where you were before that fateful moment.

cheers John.

Thankyou, John.

It does mean that I shall be at least (4) lengths of flexitrack and some (9) feet of that Gaugemaster underlay down, so I will have to check the bank balance later!

I only wish I had made a sale it would have put some plaster on the sore bits!

Regards Peter.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on March 15, 2013, 07:05:20 PM
Its perhaps a good moment to mention another small tip. When you lay the track to the board edges don't just cut at the edges, make the last 3" or so before it a seperate piece of track too. That way if you ever catch the edge with something (which sods law says will eventually happen) all you have to relay is a short section.

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: petercharlesfagg on March 15, 2013, 07:16:23 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on March 15, 2013, 07:05:20 PM
Its perhaps a good moment to mention another small tip. When you lay the track to the board edges don't just cut at the edges, make the last 3" or so before it a seperate piece of track too. That way if you ever catch the edge with something (which sods law says will eventually happen) all you have to relay is a short section.

Alan

Brilliant thought, thankyou!

Regards Peter.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: petercharlesfagg on March 19, 2013, 05:46:41 PM
Friends,
Not so much anger as just frustration!

I have been bidding on items on Ebay to acquire the carriages that would make up my own version of the "Orient Express" or at least as I would like to see!!!

I have set myself monetary bidding limits, because I have to, and on every single time I am gazumped by an automatic bidder in the last minute or seconds!

I think I will have to scour some shops where they have second-hand items or even save and buy new!!!

Regards Peter.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on March 19, 2013, 06:04:15 PM
Quote from: petercharlesfagg on March 19, 2013, 05:46:41 PM
Friends,
Not so much anger as just frustration!

I have been bidding on items on Ebay to acquire the carriages that would make up my own version of the "Orient Express" or at least as I would like to see!!!

I have set myself monetary bidding limits, because I have to, and on every single time I am gazumped by an automatic bidder in the last minute or seconds!

I think I will have to scour some shops where they have second-hand items or even save and buy new!!!

Regards Peter.

Hello Peter,

One thing I have found using eBay is when you are after a particular thing, the rest of the world seems to want it as well.  Buying on eBay requires much patience if you want things at the price you can afford.  I have tried for months before being successful.

Have you set up a "Search" for the carriages you are after?
If you do that you can save that search and the site will send you a daily email if any of your carriages come up for auction.  This way you are maximising your chances by seeing every auction that is added.

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on March 19, 2013, 06:25:59 PM
John is absolutely right. A couple of times now, items that I've been watching have gone for loads more than I was prepared to pay and then a few weeks later, similar items come up again and I've been able to get a bargain.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: petercharlesfagg on March 19, 2013, 06:49:44 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on March 19, 2013, 06:04:15 PM
Quote from: petercharlesfagg on March 19, 2013, 05:46:41 PM
Friends,
Not so much anger as just frustration!

I have been bidding on items on Ebay to acquire the carriages that would make up my own version of the "Orient Express" or at least as I would like to see!!!

I have set myself monetary bidding limits, because I have to, and on every single time I am gazumped by an automatic bidder in the last minute or seconds!

I think I will have to scour some shops where they have second-hand items or even save and buy new!!!

Regards Peter.

Hello Peter,

One thing I have found using eBay is when you are after a particular thing, the rest of the world seems to want it as well.  Buying on eBay requires much patience if you want things at the price you can afford.  I have tried for months before being successful.

Have you set up a "Search" for the carriages you are after?
If you do that you can save that search and the site will send you a daily email if any of your carriages come up for auction.  This way you are maximising your chances by seeing every auction that is added.

cheers John.

Thankyou John, I wasn't aware that I could do that!

Thankyou.

Regards Peter.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: upnick on March 19, 2013, 06:53:57 PM
Hi  Peter,   

You  could always place a wanted  advert  here on the forum  for  the coaches your looking for never know  someone might  fancy a change &  be prepared  to sell them at  realistic money   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Matthew-peter on March 20, 2013, 06:51:53 PM
Ebay seems to be messing me about, (and the seller).
I won a dapol autocoach on saturday and after paying, it said the usual paid for, however yesterday, when I checked to see if it had been dispatched ebay told me it wasnt paid for. Ive checked paypal and that says payment sent and the money has left my account. so i have messaged the seller and still no reply (wont rush to complain just yet) but he is a good seller with 100% positive feedback over 400+ sales so I dont understand what may be going on.

Rant over anywho haha
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: petercharlesfagg on March 21, 2013, 09:23:17 PM
Quote from: upnick on March 19, 2013, 06:53:57 PM
Hi  Peter,   

You  could always place a wanted  advert  here on the forum  for  the coaches your looking for never know  someone might  fancy a change &  be prepared  to sell them at  realistic money   :thumbsup:

I have decided my best option is to purchase new items, that way at the very least I KNOW their history!

Regards Peter.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: upnick on March 21, 2013, 09:54:47 PM
Quote from: petercharlesfagg on March 21, 2013, 09:23:17 PM
Quote from: upnick on March 19, 2013, 06:53:57 PM
Hi  Peter,   

You  could always place a wanted  advert  here on the forum  for  the coaches your looking for never know  someone might  fancy a change &  be prepared  to sell them at  realistic money   :thumbsup:

I have decided my best option is to purchase new items, that way at the very least I KNOW their history!

Regards Peter.

True  Peter  shop  around for a  good price try Hattons they  seem  to do good deals 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on March 24, 2013, 12:05:21 AM
 :veryangry:

My Farish 66 is out of service again. This is rapidly becoming my dog of the fleet, not sure if its worth sending back to Bob for its 4th repair. Seems to be a split gear again, but how much of a pain is it to get inside and check?
:veryangry:
What would be a sensible asking price for it if I decided to give in? 66135 in EWS? Cosmetics perfect but with the aforementioned running issue?
:veryangry:
Gah!

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on March 24, 2013, 01:07:59 PM
66135 is back in service  :claphappy:

See "Happy Thread"

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=670.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=670.0)

Or "Filton TMD" thread for further detail

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=4129.135 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=4129.135)

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on March 24, 2013, 08:18:15 PM
For a little while now when I start a game on my Xbox I've been getting a message to say I need to download an update for Xbox live.

Considering I don't play on line I've been declining this update,then I sign in as normal and get the message again and decline again.
Then I click to start the game and it starts to load and I get the message again and yet again I decline and the game starts.
That's three times I've had to decline the download before I can play.

I finally got fed up today and did the download....now for security reasons I need my password,of course I don't know it and the email address it shows is no longer used anyway.

A message is displayed with a web site to go to if I've forgotten the password,okay over to the PC and boot it up and put the web address in Google.....then I get a page of links and I have no idea which one to go to,in typical Microsoft fashion I'm required to go all round the houses to get to my destination.

Next.....give up.

Back to the Xbox and I find I can play the game but all the previous saved game is gone,okay I'll start a new game I think and proceed to do that.
Needing to save the game after a while I now find that because I'm not connected to Xbox live not only can I not play a saved game,but I can't save it now anyway.

So Microsoft have now decided that they will control whether I can play a game and save it on the Xbox.

Sod this for a game of soldiers I thought and went and part chopped the Xbox in for a PS3,so no more Microsoft deciding what I can do with the things I buy.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on March 25, 2013, 12:27:23 PM
Just heard the letter box go on the door and the postman as put about 12 advertisement posts through my letter box none with my name on, there should be a law against this  :veryangry:

Straight in the recycling bin...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tim-pelican on March 25, 2013, 01:01:44 PM
http://www.royalmail.com/personal/help-and-support/how-do-I-stop-receiving-any-leaflets-or-unaddressed-promotional-material (http://www.royalmail.com/personal/help-and-support/how-do-I-stop-receiving-any-leaflets-or-unaddressed-promotional-material) ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on March 25, 2013, 02:45:10 PM
Greetings,
Posties can only deliver 6 items per household a week which is an agreement with the union. If you did receive 12 your postie is moonlighting or perhaps snow stopped last weeks mail! I don't like delivering them as they don't half weigh your pouches down but like it or not the income they generate is a massive portion of RM profits and they subsidise your 1st and 2nd class stamps. Although annoying it obviously works as a marketing tool as RM have to turn business away due to the 6 item rule. As mentioned in the previous post you can opt out bit there is no point. RM have to provide the addresses of those that opt out so the companies will just stick you address on their mail and send it to you or get someone else to stick it through your door as you can only opt out from RM. If you want a daily delivery service it is a cross we all have to bare.
Gareth
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on March 25, 2013, 02:58:49 PM
Quote from: Geoff on March 25, 2013, 12:27:23 PM
Just heard the letter box go on the door and the postman as put about 12 advertisement posts through my letter box none with my name on, there should be a law against this  :veryangry:

IMHO there is one. It's called fly tipping. However as usual in the UK the law only applies to powerful bodies after they get caught doing something publically horrendous.

You can sign up for their "no junk" thing but it should not be necessary. I used to just put them back in the post box for a while  :D

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on March 25, 2013, 03:05:54 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on March 25, 2013, 02:58:49 PM
Quote from: Geoff on March 25, 2013, 12:27:23 PM
Just heard the letter box go on the door and the postman as put about 12 advertisement posts through my letter box none with my name on, there should be a law against this  :veryangry:

IMHO there is one. It's called fly tipping. However as usual in the UK the law only applies to powerful bodies after they get caught doing something publically horrendous.

You can sign up for their "no junk" thing but it should not be necessary. I used to just put them back in the post box for a while  :D

Alan

The no junk mail (or opting out from unaddressed mail as they call it) can take a couple of calls to Royal Mail to ensure it's activated as it involves a tag being put on your post box at the sorting office and reminding them not to put any junk mail in it. (usually takes a couple of goes at least). I think it's deliberately awkward/annoying as RM doesn't make a profit on post, but does on being a spammer.

When all else fails, the above solution of dropping it in the post box eventually does the trick. Especially when stamped with "Person not known at this address" ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on March 25, 2013, 03:08:36 PM
Gareth I am totally lost for words, the post office needs this type of mail to subsidise our postal system, you have me gob smacked, my post comes now at all different hours of the day, you could once set your watch what time the post would come through the door and that was before 7am every morning, you use to know the postman by first name terms and got on with them very well, all your post was addressed to you and you never got any spam mail as to call it, I do not critasise the post because I know the times are changing but the poor post men who have to carry a load of junk like yourself for every house in the street must be jolly hard work, they call this progress I call it more junk for our bins in which our bin men are slowing down bin collections, its just a massive merry go round where we the householder will lose out, by the way is it still called Royal Mail if so does the Queen get this junk mail?

All the best Gareth I am not getting at you.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: AndyGif on March 25, 2013, 03:16:08 PM
i used to play cards with a few ex postmen, and they told me its upto the individual postman if they want to carry the junk mail, but they get a bonus if they do....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on March 25, 2013, 03:17:11 PM
Quote from: thebrighton on March 25, 2013, 02:45:10 PM
As mentioned in the previous post you can opt out bit there is no point.

Since I opted out I get almost no junk - there is definitely a point. Also the RM don't supply the opt out data to third parties by default - indeed they would almost certainly be committing an offence if they did so. Our local wander around putting junk through the door people also leave us alone since they got a letter explaining what would happen to them if they did it again.

As to funding the mail - it seems the prices go up *AGAIN* on the 2nd April and the compensation cover for some stuff halves. Not the posties fault I'm sure, it's not as if they seem to be having large pay rises, just their bosses.

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Leo1961 on March 25, 2013, 05:53:47 PM
And some of us are old enough to remember when you got three deliveries per day, but only two deliveries on Christmas Day  ;)

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on March 25, 2013, 07:34:38 PM
Quote from: Leo1961 on March 25, 2013, 05:53:47 PM
And some of us are old enough to remember when you got three deliveries per day, but only two deliveries on Christmas Day  ;)

I remember as a 10 year old seeing my uncle Fred go out, whistling and happy, to deliver the post Christmas morning. I was worried he wouldn't get back in time for our special lunch.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on March 25, 2013, 07:39:09 PM
Quote from: AndyGif on March 25, 2013, 03:16:08 PM
i used to play cards with a few ex postmen, and they told me its upto the individual postman if they want to carry the junk mail, but they get a bonus if they do....

Not any more, we have to deliver them for nowt. You used to get paid for delivering them but it was never an option. The company had paid RM to deliver them so if you didn't and were caught you were heading down the disciplinary route (could be why you played with ex postmen  ;)).
Gareth
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on March 25, 2013, 07:47:02 PM

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When all else fails, the above solution of dropping it in the post box eventually does the trick. Especially when stamped with "Person not known at this address" ;)
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I guess you're referring to addressed mail rather than the unaddressed weekly pile of junk. This will sometimes work as the letter goes back to the sender whom may remove you from their mailing lists but we do have a chuckle when the customer writes 'not known at address' on the front when it was addressed to the owner/occupier.
Gareth
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on March 25, 2013, 08:03:44 PM
I don't see a problem with putting unaddressed stuff backj in a postbox - if they use my letter box as a bin I don't see whats wrong with using theirs to return it 8)

Probably better to attach it to a letter of complaint however - that'll cost them a lot more to process and encourage them not to do it again.

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on March 25, 2013, 08:15:26 PM
Quote from: Geoff on March 25, 2013, 03:08:36 PM
Gareth I am totally lost for words, the post office needs this type of mail to subsidise our postal system, you have me gob smacked, my post comes now at all different hours of the day.............



Unfortunately that is the case. For years any profit RM made was siphoned off by the Government rather than reinvested. We were a service until the EU liberalised the market and we had to become a business. The result was we had competition whom could cherry pick our more lucarative business (this was never personal customers). Postcomm was created to regulate the business with the directive to break RMs monopoly. RM was strangled with regulation whilst the competition was pretty much free to do what it wanted. RM couldn't charge what it needed to cover costs as Postcomm set the prices for 1st and 2nd class (only a change of regulator has allowed RM to make a profit on 1st class but not 2nd which caused the large jump). To top it all off RM still have to deliver all the post lost to DHL, UKMail, TNT etc. If this wasn't bad enough Postcomm set the prices we could charge them. A couple of years ago it was 12p an item and we had to treat it as 1st class (the new regulator has increased this). We had to subsidise the competition! Next time your post arrives have a look at the top right corner and see how many have a competitors name.
Liberalisation was supposed to mean choice for customers and a better service. What it actually meant was foreign companies taking business from a British company whom then had to pay for the privilige. No personal customer has benefitted as the competition is only interested in business mail. I'm yet to see a DHL postbox or stamp for example.
My office is like most others: constant cost cutting means there are more walks than posties so overtime is the only solution. Our staffing manager has an awful job. He has to cover all the walks but is never given the O/T budget and if someone goes off sick....
The weekly bundle of junk actually comes courtesy of our union. They agreed to increase it to 6 and us not be paid for it a few years back to help the business and to continue to guarantee a 6 day a week delivery.
Of course when the EU liberalised the market Britain said ok and ruined a once great institution whilst many of our European brothers stuck up 2 fingers and carried on as they were with their postal companies moving in here.
Sorry to drone on but if you think this is bad wait until we are privatised this year and profit for shareholders will finally erase what is left of a service. There won't be a 6 day delivery and if you dare to live in a rural area.......
Gareth
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on March 25, 2013, 08:25:45 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on March 25, 2013, 08:03:44 PM
I don't see a problem with putting unaddressed stuff backj in a postbox - if they use my letter box as a bin I don't see whats wrong with using theirs to return it 8)

Probably better to attach it to a letter of complaint however - that'll cost them a lot more to process and encourage them not to do it again.

Alan

I appreciate you feelings on unaddressed mail; I don't like it either but sticking it in a post box does nothing. It isn't RM using your letterbox as a bin, it is the person advertising.
Do you realise that if it is from RM it is the Queens mail unlike anything from anyone else. We are legally obliged to deliver anything someone has paid us to deliver. We cannot pick and choose. If I choose not to deliver an unaddressed item to you I am quilty of 'willful delay' which is a criminal offence. Posties when caught have been actually been prosecuted for this if not their first offence! It all kicked off a while back during an election campaign where we had to deliver pamphlets for the BNP. For some reason some of our ethnic posties didn't want to deliver it but were left with no option.
Gareth
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on March 25, 2013, 08:37:41 PM
Quote from: thebrighton on March 25, 2013, 08:15:26 PM
Sorry to drone on but if you think this is bad wait until we are privatised this year and profit for shareholders will finally erase what is left of a service. There won't be a 6 day delivery and if you dare to live in a rural area.......
Gareth

The rural areas get hit from April 2nd, they dump a "fuel surcharge" on contract stuff, which I guess will get described by many as a "Scottish surcharge" 8)

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on March 26, 2013, 08:45:36 AM
Mazda 3, 30000 miles, 39 months old and the bloody battery died  :veryangry: what the hell is that all about!  Is nothing built to last these days  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on March 26, 2013, 09:03:48 AM
Quote from: Lawrence on March 26, 2013, 08:45:36 AM
Mazda 3, 30000 miles, 39 months old and the bloody battery died  :veryangry: what the hell is that all about!  Is nothing built to last these days  >:(

You are not having a good year so far are you Lawrence!  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Chinahand on March 26, 2013, 10:52:39 AM
Actually Junk Mail makes rather good papier mache so I just 'recycle. it that way.  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on March 26, 2013, 11:40:55 AM
Quote from: Chinahand on March 26, 2013, 10:52:39 AM
Actually Junk Mail makes rather good papier mache so I just 'recycle. it that way.  :D

Actually, if they legislated that junk mail could only be printed on super soft Andrex, it could solve many problems :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on March 26, 2013, 12:42:39 PM
Quote from: Zwilnik on March 26, 2013, 11:40:55 AM
Actually, if they legislated that junk mail could only be printed on super soft Andrex, it could solve many problems :)

That would be brilliant. I'm tempted to write to the green party policy people 8)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on March 26, 2013, 01:27:38 PM
 :laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 26, 2013, 06:49:04 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on March 26, 2013, 08:45:36 AM
Mazda 3, 30000 miles, 39 months old and the bloody battery died  :veryangry: what the hell is that all about!  Is nothing built to last these days  >:(

Have you transferred your layout from the shed into your Mazda? :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on March 26, 2013, 08:35:40 PM
might be warmer mick
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davidjhope on March 30, 2013, 08:09:12 AM
 >:(
Milk Frother I bought for me my wife at Christmas has just packed up.
:veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 30, 2013, 09:23:59 AM
Quote from: Chinahand on March 26, 2013, 10:52:39 AM
Actually Junk Mail makes rather good papier mache so I just 'recycle. it that way.  :D
Excellent idea Trevor. A mate of mine uses the pre-paid envelopes you get with some junk mail and posts it back with the other junk inside. It's a win - win situation. He gets rid of the junk, Royal Mail get paid twice. Once for delivering it, once for taking it away.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on March 30, 2013, 10:07:56 AM
Quote from: Malc on March 30, 2013, 09:23:59 AM
Excellent idea Trevor. A mate of mine uses the pre-paid envelopes you get with some junk mail and posts it back with the other junk inside. It's a win - win situation. He gets rid of the junk, Royal Mail get paid twice. Once for delivering it, once for taking it away.

I used to do that and after a while I stopped getting junk mail  :hmmm:

I did subscribe to the Mail Prefernece Service and the Telephone Prefernece Service which helped I suppose  :D

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on March 30, 2013, 11:04:09 AM
Quote from: davidjhope on March 30, 2013, 08:09:12 AM
>:(
Milk Frother I bought for me my wife at Christmas has just packed up.
:veryangry:

Cheaper and more reliable version (http://direct.asda.com/ASDA-Stainless-Steel-Rotary-Whisk/001427266,default,pd.html?cm_mmc=ad-ppc-_-ggle-pla-_-Home-_-001427266&utm_source=ggle-pla&utm_medium=ppc&utm_term=001427266&utm_content=Home&utm_campaign=ad)

Does the same job ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mickeyflinn on March 30, 2013, 11:23:42 AM
Quote from: Sprintex on March 30, 2013, 11:04:09 AM
Quote from: davidjhope on March 30, 2013, 08:09:12 AM
>:(
Milk Frother I bought for me my wife at Christmas has just packed up.
:veryangry:

Cheaper and more reliable version (http://direct.asda.com/ASDA-Stainless-Steel-Rotary-Whisk/001427266,default,pd.html?cm_mmc=ad-ppc-_-ggle-pla-_-Home-_-001427266&utm_source=ggle-pla&utm_medium=ppc&utm_term=001427266&utm_content=Home&utm_campaign=ad)

Does the same job ;)


Paul


Or Is it?
http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/30100041/ (http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/30100041/)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davidjhope on March 30, 2013, 11:26:04 AM
Quote from: Sprintex on March 30, 2013, 11:04:09 AM
Quote from: davidjhope on March 30, 2013, 08:09:12 AM
>:(
Milk Frother I bought for me my wife at Christmas has just packed up.
:veryangry:

Cheaper and more reliable version (http://direct.asda.com/ASDA-Stainless-Steel-Rotary-Whisk/001427266,default,pd.html?cm_mmc=ad-ppc-_-ggle-pla-_-Home-_-001427266&utm_source=ggle-pla&utm_medium=ppc&utm_term=001427266&utm_content=Home&utm_campaign=ad)

Does the same job ;)


Paul
Hi Paul,
I don't think I will get away with it.
Maybe some flowers to go with it?
Or chocolates....

I think the list might be more expensive than a replacement

David

P.S. For a laugh I might get her one for her birthday. I know I don't usually spend that much but she's worth it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davidjhope on March 30, 2013, 11:27:25 AM
Quote from: mickeyflinn on March 30, 2013, 11:23:42 AM
Quote from: Sprintex on March 30, 2013, 11:04:09 AM
Quote from: davidjhope on March 30, 2013, 08:09:12 AM
>:(
Milk Frother I bought for me my wife at Christmas has just packed up.
:veryangry:

Cheaper and more reliable version (http://direct.asda.com/ASDA-Stainless-Steel-Rotary-Whisk/001427266,default,pd.html?cm_mmc=ad-ppc-_-ggle-pla-_-Home-_-001427266&utm_source=ggle-pla&utm_medium=ppc&utm_term=001427266&utm_content=Home&utm_campaign=ad)

Does the same job ;)


Paul


Or Is it?
http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/30100041/ (http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/30100041/)

Now that's what I'm looking for.
I might buy her two.
Thanks
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on March 30, 2013, 11:30:10 AM
Still has the unreliability factor of electrickery though, unlike mine ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davidjhope on March 30, 2013, 11:36:14 AM
Quote from: Sprintex on March 30, 2013, 11:30:10 AM
Still has the unreliability factor of electrickery though, unlike mine ;)


Paul

Now I'm getting confused. I might have a sit down for a while.
Why is life full of decisions.

I might just give her £2 and give her the options
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Chinahand on March 30, 2013, 03:00:10 PM
Bank holiday and Murphy's Law has struck. Central heating pump has packed up and I can't get a replacement until Wednesday. No heating and no hot water until then.

Happy b****y Easter  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on March 30, 2013, 03:08:24 PM
I know where ya coming from ... late last year, my oil boiler had a catastrophic failure; no heating for 10 days, found out the tank immersion had problems too, so hot water was also out for 3 days !  Fortunately the boiler was covered under warranty, the mfr replaced (almost all) the parts & covered the engineer too.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 30, 2013, 08:46:52 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on March 30, 2013, 03:08:24 PM
the mfr replaced (almost all) the parts & covered the engineer too.

What did they cover the engineer in please :confused2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on March 30, 2013, 08:49:00 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 30, 2013, 08:46:52 PM
What did they cover the engineer in please :confused2:
Water, when he took out an electrical inspection cable  :help: - seriously !  Total catastrophic internal failure of the boiler ...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on March 30, 2013, 10:18:33 PM
Finally having a long awaited hot drink.
Have  been sitting in the living room with no power form last 3 hours.

B*************   Power cut, even shut down the heating, safety device built in that shuts it down if the pump looses power.  Temp droped to 16degrees in the house.


End of rant
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davidjhope on March 31, 2013, 02:56:42 PM
 :(
Toothache
:'(

Say no more
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on March 31, 2013, 03:14:15 PM
Quote from: davidjhope on March 31, 2013, 02:56:42 PM
:(
Toothache
:'(

Say no more

Horrid - sympathies  :(

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on March 31, 2013, 05:03:32 PM
Quote from: davidjhope on March 31, 2013, 02:56:42 PM
:(
Toothache
:'(

Say no more

Too much chocolate egg? ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on March 31, 2013, 05:24:53 PM
Quote from: davidjhope on March 31, 2013, 02:56:42 PM
:(
Toothache
:'(

Say no more

Oil of cloves can dampen down toothache - you can get it from the chemists
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on March 31, 2013, 06:13:44 PM
Oil of cloves.     Second that BIG TIME, I couldn't believe it when Mrs H suggested using this witches potion it does work or your (interweb) money back.

Jerry
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: cudders on March 31, 2013, 06:31:40 PM
Painting..Just started on my house and what a pain in the rear. Filling, sanding, masking, moving stuff around, painting, painting again and it still looks crap. Yet another coat needed. Paint get's everwhere despite covering well..or so you thougth..and then you have to clear up, clean tools etc ect...Nothing more that I hate.  :veryangry:

Next time I'll be paying someone to do it..

Cudders
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on March 31, 2013, 06:59:30 PM
What's happened to proper paint?

All I could get last year for internal woodwork was "one coat" that didn't and none drip rubbish.
That one coat paint is ruddy awful,you finish painting,clean the brushes and then you can see where it hasn't covered very well.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on March 31, 2013, 07:27:51 PM
Quote from: cudders on March 31, 2013, 06:31:40 PM
Painting..Just started on my house and what a pain in the rear. Filling, sanding, masking, moving stuff around, painting, painting again and it still looks crap. Yet another coat needed. Paint get's everwhere despite covering well..or so you thougth..and then you have to clear up, clean tools etc ect...Nothing more that I hate.  :veryangry:

Next time I'll be paying someone to do it..

Cudders

I'm suffering the same with lots of house refurb stuff to do so zero time for the layout for what looks like an age, yet. Didn't even make it to Ally Pally.

I took delivery of a batch of wagons, kits and RTR yesterday and all I could do was look at them through the their packaging.  :(

Thanks for all the posts that are just about keeping me (almost) sane!

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davidjhope on March 31, 2013, 09:36:39 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on March 31, 2013, 05:03:32 PM
Quote from: davidjhope on March 31, 2013, 02:56:42 PM
:(
Toothache
:'(

Say no more

Too much chocolate egg? ;)

If only  :(


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on April 01, 2013, 08:55:16 PM
Put my shaver on clean/charge a little earlier - dead ... after checking the cable I saw why.  My youngest cat (a little out of kittenhood) has ate it !!!  One of the wires in thelead was totally severed, the other one wasn't a lot better  :veryangry:

As a replacement lead is £20 ( :veryangry2:) I decided I'd lose nothing on trying a repair; amazingly, both repaired wires seem OK now  :jawdropping:  But I still need to get a replacement  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Farmer Giles on April 01, 2013, 10:00:59 PM
I sort of accidently became the current custodian of the deceased relatives medals which started me off collecting other medals, awards and orders.

On a recent trawl though ebay I found a trio of WWI medals awarded to a soldier with the same name as my mother's family. I did a bit of research and discovered (OK about 95% certain) he was a cousin of my grandfather. I won the auction (paid a bit over the odds, but that didn't matter for a set of family medals) but what thoroughly p1$$ed me off was not having to reimport the trio of British medals from the US, but being stung for import duty for my own distant cousin's WWI medals  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Farmer Giles on April 01, 2013, 10:12:56 PM
I do not like soldering  :scowl: I am not particularly good at it, failing sight and arthritic fingers don't help either. But one thing I do know is that a soldering iron has to get hot to melt the solder, unfortunately my soldering iron decided that it would go on strike, so I bought a new one.

The new duly arived in the post (why are they so much cheaper online than from the local DIY store?) I unwrapped it, unwound the flex from around the handle and plugged it in and waited until it got hot.

The flex, which had been wound round the handle was under torsion and acted like a weak spring, but strong enough to dislodge the iron from its cradle. I can categorically state it is unwise to try to catch a hot soldering iron as it flies off the benchand heads toward the floor  :dunce:

I am still unsure whether I was more surprised to catch it before it hit the floor, or that it was bloody hot and cooked two of my fingers. Needless to say it still managed to land on the floor.

I was also singulalry unimpressed with my wife telling me I was an idiot, something I already knew  :-[. She was concerned about my burnt fingers, but she just had to check that the kitchen floor was OK.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on April 01, 2013, 10:46:09 PM
Thats UK Customs for you Farmer Giles, they take great delight in slapping tax on absolutely anything. They have to fund their Whitehall Masters Second homes some how........ ;D


And while im on the Angry Thread: POLITICIANS, you ALL make me :sick: :veryangry2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on April 02, 2013, 03:06:04 AM
You have my heartfelt sympathy Farmer Giles, I have been there and done that  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: trainsdownunder on April 02, 2013, 08:12:46 AM
Ebay.au (so this doesn't affect you UK guys) have just announced they are changing the structure and fees t make life easier.

NO making life MORE ^%£^O£ EXPENSIVE - less for the seller.

Okay an increase in commission from 7.9% to 10% I can live with, but to do away with the basic insert fee means everything with a start price of under $100 now is going to cost $1.50 to list. Fine they give you 40 free listings when you start, but here's the rub - once you achieve more than 100 sales and $3K in value you become a Power seller and all your listings then become chargeable. Destroys any chance of the smaller dealers getting anywhere. My friends with an Estore are now going to give it up as with most stuff they do being under $5 (scale detail stuff like wagon loads etc) the extra insert fees means a big erosion into their margins. This is on top of the Ebay store fee of $50.

Only took me a six week to achieve this as Model railway stuff is generally so expensive and I have a fair bit to sell. It does help that people seem happy to pay over the odds here, because they don't do their research. Last month I sold two sets of KATO Coalporters. The UP one sold for $165 and the BNSF for $150. Both used item s in good condition. I can buy new for less including shipping direct from the US.

Okay Rant over - time for a cool one.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on April 02, 2013, 08:23:35 AM
They will probably do the same in the UK soon.....

Looks like they have are pricing themselves out of the market.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on April 02, 2013, 09:38:34 AM
Just a reminder that you can use our own Classified system to buy and sell stuff - no eBay fees here  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: trainsdownunder on April 02, 2013, 09:51:49 AM
Problem for me is then the postage still kills it - the lowest parcel is around £10, over 500g hits $22 +

Just done some quick sums

Ebay.au

Item sells for $5. postage costs $1.20 (total about £4.25)

eBay takes $2.0 ($1.50 insertion, $0.50 Final value)
Buyer uses paypal  $0.45
postage costs $1.20 + packing $0.30

Total outlay $3.95  BALANCE left $2.25

Item costs $2.00 ......................................nuff said
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on April 04, 2013, 09:53:12 AM
Gas valve went down on the works boiler last thursday the boiler man came on tuesday to fit a new gas valve but he broke it, and I am here in work with my little fingers wrinkled and cold and no gas man to fix the boiler, fuming mad is an understatement.  :veryangry:

Roll on 4-30..
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davidjhope on April 04, 2013, 04:10:13 PM
Quote from: davidjhope on March 31, 2013, 09:36:39 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on March 31, 2013, 05:03:32 PM
Quote from: davidjhope on March 31, 2013, 02:56:42 PM
:(
Toothache
:'(

Say no more

Too much chocolate egg? ;)

If only  :(


Paul

Still got the toothache..... :(
Dentist couldn't work out the problem until today.  :confused2:
I've got to have a tooth out tomorrow. :'(
A weeks holiday spent being sad with a toothache then on the Friday having to spend £49 to have it out. :thumbsdown:

What a waste :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on April 04, 2013, 04:18:23 PM
Quote from: davidjhope on April 04, 2013, 04:10:13 PM
What a waste :veryangry:

I agree with you totally David, I have no problems paying bills I expect but when something crops up unexpectedly and I have to use my fun money   :veryangry:  :veryangry:  :veryangry:

I suppose the one consolation is the pain will soon be gone  ;)

cheers John.

p.s. the tooth fairy might be very generous  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Farmer Giles on April 04, 2013, 04:23:11 PM


Paul
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Still got the toothache..... :(
Dentist couldn't work out the problem until today.  :confused2:
I've got to have a tooth out tomorrow. :'(
A weeks holiday spent being sad with a toothache then on the Friday having to spend £49 to have it out. :thumbsdown:

What a waste :veryangry:
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What time was the appointment 2:30? (two thirty, tooth hurty  :doh: )
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EddieA on April 04, 2013, 07:21:43 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on April 01, 2013, 08:55:16 PM
Put my shaver on clean/charge a little earlier - dead ... after checking the cable I saw why.  My youngest cat (a little out of kittenhood) has ate it !!!  One of the wires in thelead was totally severed, the other one wasn't a lot better  :veryangry:

As a replacement lead is £20 ( :veryangry2:) I decided I'd lose nothing on trying a repair; amazingly, both repaired wires seem OK now  :jawdropping:  But I still need to get a replacement  >:(

Is that cable or cat??? :bounce:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EddieA on April 04, 2013, 07:27:41 PM
Just bought a new digital camera (reduced but still pricey). Got it home to discover the full manual in on a CD with only a basic 'insert the batteries and memory card and switch it on' printed guide.

The CD manual was practially useless on the screen so some 140 sheets of paper later and goodness knows how much ink I have printed out the manual!

Probably cost almost as much as the reduction in price  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: IanUK on April 04, 2013, 07:43:56 PM
Bought one of those steam shower cubicles. Got half way through fitting it together and realised something was wrong and I could not fit the upright columns due to lack of holes (ahem that came out wrong)

Stood scratching my head for nearly two hours, I had followed the instructions step by step as I always do.

Sat down with a cup of tea and was flicking through the instructions, when I got to the back page there was a small photo with some small print saying "Amendment"  "If your upright looks like this then you have the new style of fitting, and you have built your shower incorrectly and you will need to start again and put the uprights in first"

I was flipping fuming! How stupid was that, why didn't they put a big note at the front of the instructions stating this and not on page 43. Where they having a laugh or what?

Wasted a good 3 hours of my life, and modelling, on that wasted exercise not to mention the 2 hours taking it a part and removing 2 tubes of sealant. :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 04, 2013, 08:06:58 PM
The manufacturers seem to be a right shower :unimpressed:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: IanUK on April 04, 2013, 08:13:12 PM
 :laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on April 04, 2013, 10:03:46 PM
Quote from: EddieA on April 04, 2013, 07:21:43 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on April 01, 2013, 08:55:16 PM
But I still need to get a replacement  >:(

Is that cable or cat??? :bounce:

Both  :veryangry2:  Anyone want a slightly singed ginger moggie ?  Answers to the name of "Oy, don't eat that !!!"
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on April 04, 2013, 10:34:00 PM
Quote from: EddieA on April 04, 2013, 07:27:41 PM
Just bought a new digital camera (reduced but still pricey). Got it home to discover the full manual in on a CD with only a basic 'insert the batteries and memory card and switch it on' printed guide.

The CD manual was practially useless on the screen so some 140 sheets of paper later and goodness knows how much ink I have printed out the manual!

Probably cost almost as much as the reduction in price  :veryangry:
That seems to be the way for a lot of electrical and digital goods nowadays,plus the supplied fifty page thick instructions with the first two pages in English and the rest given over to foreign languages.

We bought a new Bush video recorder yesterday from Argos,there seemed to be a problem insomuch that the video recorder had to be switched on to get a normal broadcast on the TV.
Nothing in the instructions about it,but there was a helpline number to ring,bear in mind that this is a Bush product but the helpline number printed on the front of the instructions connects to Argos on an 0845 number.

Anyway I eventually sorted it out,but what made me angry was the recorder that it replaced had exactly the same problem.That one I bought off ebay last year at a really cheap price,still wrapped in the packaging so I assumed it had a fault and binned it.

Had to get it sorted before the MotoGP starts next month and I need to record it if I have to go out. :)

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on April 04, 2013, 11:11:11 PM
The problem is these days manufacturers think we are all so smart that we don't need a manual, with some of the new technology things are not always that simple and some of us need a bit of  :help:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on April 04, 2013, 11:37:43 PM
I wanted switch our new TV off rather than leave it on standby.

Go to the manual; look up switching on and off; 
instruction reads 'press red button on handset to put on standby'
It goes on 'not recommended that TV is left on standby when you go ... e.g.... on holiday'

There is no 'OFF' switch on TV. You have to turn it off at the wall socket. Bit irritating that!

I wonder how much removing a proper on/off switch saved Samsung?

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on April 04, 2013, 11:43:22 PM
Quote from: daveg on April 04, 2013, 11:37:43 PM
I wanted switch our new TV off rather than leave it on standby.

Go to the manual; look up switching on and off; 
instruction reads 'press red button on handset to put on standby'
It goes on 'not recommended that TV is left on standby when you go ... e.g.... on holiday'

There is no 'OFF' switch on TV. You have to turn it off at the wall socket. Bit irritating that!

I wonder how much removing a proper on/off switch saved Samsung?

Dave G

Same problem with my LG  :veryangry:

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on April 05, 2013, 02:15:33 AM
Quote from: daveg on April 04, 2013, 11:37:43 PM


I wonder how much removing a proper on/off switch saved Samsung?

Dave G

I'd watch out when moving it too, Samsung save a few more pennies by soldering the power socket straight to the motherboard and not bolting it to the casing at all. So it's very easy for it to work loose when you unplug/plug the power lead in the back.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: trainsdownunder on April 05, 2013, 04:21:07 AM
Quote from: scotsoft on April 04, 2013, 11:43:22 PM
Quote from: daveg on April 04, 2013, 11:37:43 PM
I wanted switch our new TV off rather than leave it on standby.

Go to the manual; look up switching on and off; 
instruction reads 'press red button on handset to put on standby'
It goes on 'not recommended that TV is left on standby when you go ... e.g.... on holiday'

There is no 'OFF' switch on TV. You have to turn it off at the wall socket. Bit irritating that!

I wonder how much removing a proper on/off switch saved Samsung?

Dave G

Same problem with my LG  :veryangry:

cheers John.

Seems to be the same for so many of modern day "techno" items. Spend 5 minutes going round turn it all off at the wall before bedtime.

Annoying thing is then with some items is that they don't re-power, they come back in "stand-by" Why not just switch ? :confused1:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on April 05, 2013, 04:42:47 AM
Things may have been different in the UK but having worked for a Pawnbrokers for 13 years up until 2010 I cant think of one TV that had a AC Power on/off switch, like others I use our power points as a Kill Switch every night.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Farmer Giles on April 05, 2013, 08:42:58 AM
My first PC came with a instruction manual for the PC manual. I had to read the manual manual before I could understand the PC manual, after about two days I threw them both away and worked out how to use the PC using common sense.

I did buy a camera of Amazon a few years ago which was less thanhalf normal price because it came with a French manual. That didn't matter partly because I am am not a camera novice and partly because my wife is a translator (French and Spanish), when the camera arrived it came with a multi lingual instuction book anyway.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on April 05, 2013, 09:14:07 AM
I bought a Garmin handheld gps receiver before I had a computer,
the instructions were on a disc. :veryangry:

Later I bought a Nikon dslr from Jessops and the salesman advised
me to get a manual from a bookshop as the one that came with the
camera was useless, like an extremely thick chequebook printed in
grey and white. The book cost about £12 but is very good with full
colour illustrations of the various procedures on the screen,still
a pain though.

As an amusing afternote I bought a jar of wholegrain mustard
last week, the label gave the various ingredients, and below
that was a note on allergy advice stating "Contains mustard".
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Farmer Giles on April 05, 2013, 09:53:04 AM
Quote from: Agrippa on April 05, 2013, 09:14:07 AM
I bought a Garmin handheld gps receiver before I had a computer,
the instructions were on a disc. :veryangry:


As an amusing afternote I bought a jar of wholegrain mustard
last week, the label gave the various ingredients, and below
that was a note on allergy advice stating "Contains mustard".

My uncle was given a hand made Christmas cracker a couple of years ago in which was a miniature bottle of whisky, on the label was a warning, "This product may contain alcohol" My uncle's response, "I should bloody well hope so!"
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on April 05, 2013, 09:55:25 AM
 :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MinZaPint on April 05, 2013, 11:16:00 AM
Went to Heathrow T4 to pick up me pal coming back from India, waited in the "Windsor Castle", Wetherspoons pub our usual meeting point, nice but pricy pint even after using my CAMRA vouchers, looked at the condiments on the table, "English Mustard" read label to find "made in Germany" ! how mad is that?  :( &  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on April 05, 2013, 11:21:56 AM
Quote from: MinZaPint on April 05, 2013, 11:16:00 AM
Went to Heathrow T4 to pick up me pal coming back from India, waited in the "Windsor Castle", Wetherspoons pub our usual meeting point, nice but pricy pint even after using my CAMRA vouchers, looked at the condiments on the table, "English Mustard" read label to find "made in Germany" ! how mad is that?  :( &  :veryangry:

Look on the bright side, if things had gone differently it could have been:

Brätwurst made in England  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on April 05, 2013, 11:32:40 AM
Thats made Mrs H blood boil!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EddieA on April 05, 2013, 02:16:07 PM
Quote from: longbridge on April 05, 2013, 04:42:47 AM
Things may have been different in the UK but having worked for a Pawnbrokers for 13 years up until 2010 I cant think of one TV that had a AC Power on/off switch, like others I use our power points as a Kill Switch every night.

Only thing is that if I switch off my TV at the mains for any length of time (overnight!) I have to retune the inbuilt Freeview 'digi-box'. Why can't they have a set of rechargable batteries in the set which keeps the digi-box memory going when powered off and which charge when it is on? (is there an asking the bleeding obvious smiley available :D) 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EddieA on April 05, 2013, 02:23:36 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on April 04, 2013, 10:03:46 PM
Quote from: EddieA on April 04, 2013, 07:21:43 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on April 01, 2013, 08:55:16 PM
But I still need to get a replacement  >:(

Is that cable or cat??? :bounce:

Both  :veryangry2:  Anyone want a slightly singed ginger moggie ?  Answers to the name of "Oy, don't eat that !!!"

Been there! My two felines (now both sadly gone recently to the cat basket in the sky after some 18 years each happy lives) used to answer to the names of 'Don't do that' and 'Get down', when they were kittens... :)

They did learn!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on April 06, 2013, 09:05:51 AM
Approximately 350 n scale people have ended up on a patterned carpet
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on April 06, 2013, 09:12:41 AM
"Quick lads - camouflage !"  ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on April 06, 2013, 09:19:23 AM
Quote from: Pengi on April 06, 2013, 09:05:51 AM
Approximately 350 n scale people have ended up on a patterned carpet

I would have thought a good job for your small hand held vacuum  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on April 06, 2013, 09:55:05 AM
QuoteApproximately 350 n scale people have ended up on a patterned carpet

Bit of a disaster that!

Hope they are all rounded up, an n scale jail-break must be erm.....stamped on?!  :confused1:

Seriously though, hope you get them all back  :)

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on April 06, 2013, 10:51:28 AM
Quote from: scotsoft on April 06, 2013, 09:19:23 AM
Quote from: Pengi on April 06, 2013, 09:05:51 AM
Approximately 350 n scale people have ended up on a patterned carpet

I would have thought a good job for your small hand held vacuum  :thumbsup:

The vacuum sucks up all of the fluff and other gunk on the floor :goggleeyes:. Devil's own job separating them from that + some of them have jumped kilometers (in n scale terms) and hidden under filing cabinets etc
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on April 06, 2013, 11:10:52 AM
Quote from: Pengi on April 06, 2013, 10:51:28 AM
Quote from: scotsoft on April 06, 2013, 09:19:23 AM
Quote from: Pengi on April 06, 2013, 09:05:51 AM
Approximately 350 n scale people have ended up on a patterned carpet

I would have thought a good job for your small hand held vacuum  :thumbsup:

The vacuum sucks up all of the fluff and other gunk on the floor :goggleeyes:. Devil's own job separating them from that + some of them have jumped kilometers (in n scale terms) and hidden under filing cabinets etc

Best way to find them, take your shoes and socks off and walk round barefooted, bound to find them  :'( :'(

Good Luck.

Regards

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on April 06, 2013, 11:23:21 PM
Quote from: Pengi on April 06, 2013, 09:05:51 AM
Approximately 350 n scale people have ended up on a patterned carpet

Stick a sock over the end of the hoover and all will be well 8)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on April 07, 2013, 01:10:50 PM
Nipped down into town for some Copydex ... local garden/electricals/DIY place had some - £7.50 for a 125ml bottle !!!  They're having a flippin' giraffe !!!  :veryangry:  RRP is about a fiver !!!

Anyway, left there rather annoyed & headed to WH Smiths & got some for £4 - first time I've found that shop useful since it opened last year !

Mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on April 08, 2013, 08:51:00 PM
 :veryangry: Low lifes who about 3am open up a BT inspection pit outside our gates and cut the copper cable to the next village out.
Leave the pit open and drive off several 100 metres up the road; cut it again and drive off with the cable  :veryangry:
Luckaly nobody fell down the pit before we contacted openreach and got the tops put back on  at 10am
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on April 10, 2013, 04:26:21 PM
2 years ago I had a tumour removed from my thyroid, followed a month later with the removal of rest of thyroid. A year later, after failing to meet the low iodine levels for radioactive iodine treatment, as scan revealed that some thyroid was left, hiding behind the carotid artery, so another operation was required. This did the trick, and the radioactive iodine treatment took place. This should ensure there was no more thyroid and no more cancer. Tomorrow I have to have another scan, as something is growing in the front of my neck! Bugger.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on April 10, 2013, 04:32:44 PM
Thinking of you Kipper and wish you all the best.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dodger112958 on April 10, 2013, 04:35:06 PM
Blooming heck Kipper, best of luck buddy. Kinda puts everything into perspective doesn't it?
Ian
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on April 10, 2013, 04:36:17 PM
Let's hope it's something non malignant and just a scare, better add you to my night time prayer list.   :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on April 10, 2013, 04:37:33 PM
Good luck for tomorrow.  Hope it goes well and you don't have to wait too long for the results.
All the best.
Mark.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on April 10, 2013, 04:40:39 PM
Thanks folks. What is most annoying is that I will not get the results until my next appointment with the oncologist, which is at the end of May! Only been waiting for this scan since October last year, as well!!!! Obviously absolutely no need for me to be worried that any treatment is needed urgently.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on April 10, 2013, 06:25:42 PM
All the best for tomorrow, Kipper
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 10, 2013, 07:13:50 PM
My very best wishes for a positive result, Kipper :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Matthew-peter on April 10, 2013, 08:55:22 PM
Good luck kipper, hope its not anything bad  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on April 10, 2013, 08:57:02 PM
Wishing you all the best Kipper, hope it gets sorted.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on April 11, 2013, 05:21:21 PM
I was annoyed yesterday about running out of oil for the heating much sooner than expected ... but I'm furious today as a little while ago I found a section of fence in the back garden broken down - and it was fine last I checked it a week or two back !  Around then, SWMBO thought she saw lights & heard someone in that part of the garden at night, but we didn't see a re-occurance & thought nothing more of it ... until today.

:censored: f'ing :censored: thieving :censored: scumbags  :veryangry: reckon at least £100 of oil has gone  :veryangry:

The tank now has a padlock on it !  And I'll have to repair that section of fence - with something tougher  :veryangry2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on April 11, 2013, 06:49:24 PM
Sorry to hear about the thieving scumbags on your land, the Parish council had a large industrial metal skip stolen, the skip was for people who had extra stuff to throw out and who could not get to the borough tip, the parish council cannot afford to replace the tip so anyone with extra rubbish have now lost out, lets hope there is no extra rubbish on the streets.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on April 11, 2013, 07:30:46 PM
That is awful Mike - thieves seem to know a lot more about what we have in our houses and gardens these days.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on April 11, 2013, 07:34:02 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on April 11, 2013, 05:21:21 PM
The tank now has a padlock on it !  And I'll have to repair that section of fence - with something tougher  :veryangry2:

suggest razor wire, connected to the mains, with the odd landmine laid beneath. should get the b******s one way or another.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 11, 2013, 09:05:19 PM
Quote from: class37025 on April 11, 2013, 07:34:02 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on April 11, 2013, 05:21:21 PM
The tank now has a padlock on it !  And I'll have to repair that section of fence - with something tougher  :veryangry2:

suggest razor wire, connected to the mains, with the odd landmine laid beneath. should get the b******s one way or another.

Then the MEP's would be down on Mike for denying their human rights as thieving gits ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on April 11, 2013, 09:08:24 PM
Only if they find the body ... living in the sticks can have some advantages !  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on April 11, 2013, 09:23:34 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 11, 2013, 09:05:19 PM
Quote from: class37025 on April 11, 2013, 07:34:02 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on April 11, 2013, 05:21:21 PM
The tank now has a padlock on it !  And I'll have to repair that section of fence - with something tougher  :veryangry2:

suggest razor wire, connected to the mains, with the odd landmine laid beneath. should get the b******s one way or another.


Then the MEP's would be down on Mike for denying their human rights as thieving gits ::)

sorry, I forgot, SCUMBAGS have rights,

honest law abiding folk don't.

just recycle the body in an environmentally friendly way, ie bury under the rose bed  :bounce:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: rodders on April 11, 2013, 11:44:54 PM
same down here! House built just up the lane about 5 years ago, Back in January The owners called out the boiler man as it stopped working only to be told after 20 minutes that boiler was o k but the oil had been pinched overnight! 500 LTRS.    regards  Rodders
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on April 12, 2013, 01:53:47 AM
They'll steal anything these days even if the house is empty! In the past 2 weeks they've twice broken into 1 of the properties (empty at the moment) which I look after trying to steal the plumbing!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on April 12, 2013, 02:06:46 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on April 12, 2013, 01:53:47 AM
They'll steal anything these days even if the house is empty! In the past 2 weeks they've twice broken into 1 of the properties (empty at the moment) which I look after trying to steal the plumbing!

very tempting to connect the water pipes to the mains ? :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on April 12, 2013, 02:14:17 AM
Believe me, working in social housing I could tell you loads of 'unbelievable' stories on what we encounter including similar to what you suggest. In the one mentioned above they tried to cut the main water supply in the house when we had that really cold spell. They would have been frozen by that water! All we have to do now is repair/replace all of the downstairs ceilings. Sounds like they may be caught yet though. Trouble is they'll probably get a slap on the wrist and told not to do it again.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: petercharlesfagg on April 12, 2013, 09:47:26 AM
Quote from: MikeDunn on April 11, 2013, 05:21:21 PM
I was annoyed yesterday about running out of oil for the heating much sooner than expected ... but I'm furious today as a little while ago I found a section of fence in the back garden broken down - and it was fine last I checked it a week or two back !  Around then, SWMBO thought she saw lights & heard someone in that part of the garden at night, but we didn't see a re-occurance & thought nothing more of it ... until today.

:censored: f'ing :censored: thieving :censored: scumbags  :veryangry: reckon at least £100 of oil has gone  :veryangry:

The tank now has a padlock on it !  And I'll have to repair that section of fence - with something tougher  :veryangry2:

May I suggest you plant Rosa Rugosa, not only do you get some lovely flowers, lovely scent but the plant has vicious thorns that tear flesh if brushed against?

Regards, Peter.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: AndyGif on April 12, 2013, 10:37:08 AM
at least in the old days they had to work hard to pinch the contents of your coal bunker.....
Takes a lot effort to pinch a couple hundred weight of  the hard shiny black rocks.....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on April 12, 2013, 12:03:02 PM
Don't need thieves here in Italy during the winter the legalised bandits who run the gas supply just rob us blind. Last months gas bill over 180 Euros and we only have the heating on for 2 Hours a day !!  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on April 12, 2013, 01:41:58 PM
Had the scan, and nothing showed up that shouldn't be there. Report will go to the oncologist, who I see in May, but doubt she will be able to do anything. Bloke who did the scan said it would be up to me to monitor, and to contact the hospital if it gets worse. So, there is nothing there, but if that nothing gets worse, then they will look at it again!
And what's more, the shop that has my Merchant Navy in for repair has lost it!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 12, 2013, 02:07:04 PM
Quote from: Kipper on April 12, 2013, 01:41:58 PM
Had the scan, and nothing showed up that shouldn't be there. Report will go to the oncologist, who I see in May, but doubt she will be able to do anything. Bloke who did the scan said it would be up to me to monitor, and to contact the hospital if it gets worse. So, there is nothing there, but if that nothing gets worse, then they will look at it again!
And what's more, the shop that has my Merchant Navy in for repair has lost it!

Sounds a bit like "Do you want the good news or the bad news" :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on April 12, 2013, 02:11:25 PM
That was how it was, funnily enough. He did the scan and said that everything was OK, but if I thought I had a problem it was up to me to sort it. In other words "it's all in the mind". I assured him that, if I wanted to walk around with what felt like a gobstopper stuck in my throat, I would never bother anyone again, but I don't want it. If it is the internal scar tissue, then I will have to put up with it, but I would prefer to know.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on April 12, 2013, 02:12:40 PM
It cannot be easy living with an unknown like that  >:(

Let's hope your Merchant Navy turns up soon  :thumbsup:

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dodger112958 on April 12, 2013, 02:12:49 PM
Hi Kipper, not sure if the first part of your test is good, neutral, or bad, they basically told you s*d all, now its down to you to moniter it. As for the second part let's hope they are already in the process of ordering you a new Merchant Navy class as well as a little something for your trouble.
Ian
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 12, 2013, 02:16:55 PM
Quote from: Kipper on April 12, 2013, 02:11:25 PM
That was how it was, funnily enough. He did the scan and said that everything was OK, but if I thought I had a problem it was up to me to sort it. In other words "it's all in the mind". I assured him that, if I wanted to walk around with what felt like a gobstopper stuck in my throat, I would never bother anyone again, but I don't want it. If it is the internal scar tissue, then I will have to put up with it, but I would prefer to know.

10 days ago I went to the doc as I have some odd goings on underneath my arms that, to my mind, should not be happening. Being a smoker for 45 years I was in somewhat of a lather but I was just told "we'll monitor it" (whatever that means) and even though I strongly pushed for an X ray I was still only in the quack's for 10 minutes.
What a waste of time that was. Are they going to monitor it remotely or is it down to me ??? :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on April 12, 2013, 02:21:20 PM
If I had monitored the original lump in my neck, the tumour would have migrated to the lung - and that is a form of lung cancer you do not want. When removed, the tumour was a couple of mm from the right lung, and if it had been left much longer, it would have combined with the lung. Thankfully my GP was switched on enough to send me for a scan. I would risk the wrath of your doctor, and ask for a second opinion.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on April 12, 2013, 04:12:22 PM
I am not really qualified to comment on the state of Doctors, other than the last Friday attempt to book an appointment re my shoulder at my local GP degenerating into a face (hello, can I book an appointment?.....Not for today...When is your next available slot?....Wednesday at 11:00....none at Lunchtime?.....No.....What about next Friday afternoon?.....Will have to ring up on the morning.....  ???).

I just dosed up on pain killers and its gone away.

BUT

I wish both of you all the best and hope neither of your problems are serious.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on April 12, 2013, 08:22:43 PM
Monitor it yourself, crikey I have never heard of anything like that before, people complain about our Aussie health system but after hearing this story they have nothing to moan about.

Doctors and hospitals here bend over backwards to find problems with peoples ailments, I feel very sorry for you Kipper it must be a real worry, I wouldn't be to worried about the loco they are replaceable but you are not, I just hope these whacky doctors find out what is causing your symptoms and help you out.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on April 12, 2013, 08:44:28 PM
Some years back I was suddenly unwell. Breathless and very wobbly. The doc told me it was because  I was fat.  I was then forty years old, 11 and a bit stone and 5ft 6in tall. Not too fat, I thought.

I challenged that diagnosis and eventually had an angiogram at Harefield hospital. Ah! Heart disease!

Been on chemicals ever since.

Stick to your guns gentlemen and don't let these people fob you off or suggest you're imagining your symptoms. Pompous doctors are to be challenged. Insist on a second opinion if you think your doctor isn't listening.

All the very best.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on April 12, 2013, 11:23:40 PM
We have the "I'm the only important person here" type receptionists at our doctor's surgery. If I phone (at the regulation 08:30), hang on in the queue, and then cannot have an appointment, I just tell them I will go to the local hospital Accident & Emergency - "Oh, I can fit you in at...." But it is still pot luck which doctor I see, and they probably know nothing about me, and never read the notes, so I have to start at the beginning again. It's enough to make you spend money and go private - but I would just be sent to see the same people.

And breathe!

If anyone has seen "The Doctors" on BBC1 at 13:45, that's the sort of doctor's surgery I would like to join. 3 chairs in waiting area and appointments on demand. Only problem is getting the doctors to come out of the broom cupboard and put their clothes on!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on April 13, 2013, 09:20:41 AM
Hi Kipper,

From your location I'm assuming you go to Kings Mill hospital,we've got a perfectly good hospital in Newark but it seems that nearly everyone gets sent to Kings Mill now.
I think it's a ploy to close Newark hospital with the excuse that hardly anyone uses it !

I don't like going to Kings Mill at all,last year I had botox injections that one of their consultants more or less pushed me into even though another urology consultant at Newark had told me it would not work in my case.

He was right of course,it worked until the first outpatient appointment six weeks later and then it's been a backwards journey ever since.Apparently the botox injections only work for six to nine months and I was given the next appointment for a year later,I have no confidence in him at all and I'm now with a good urologist at Newark.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on April 13, 2013, 11:25:17 AM
Just had a letter from South East Water stating that the South East has been classified as being seriously short of water and now they are going to fit a water meter.

Short of water, after all the flooding and the fact that the ground is saturated!! You could not make this up.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on April 13, 2013, 11:33:40 AM
Quote from: Pengi on April 13, 2013, 11:25:17 AM
Short of water, after all the flooding and the fact that the ground is saturated!! You could not make this up.

Plus you are due for a lot of water tomorrow  :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tim-pelican on April 13, 2013, 01:54:23 PM
Quote from: Pengi on April 13, 2013, 11:25:17 AM
Just had a letter from South East Water stating that the South East has been classified as being seriously short of water and now they are going to fit a water meter.

Water meters are one of my pet hates - unless you put in a very strange pricing curve, they put all the water-saving burden on the least well-off.  Fat cats will carry on having their car washed, hosing the lawn and filling their swimming pools, because an extra £50 or £100 is irrelevant.  Meanwhile the poor will be making real decisions about how often to wash or flush, because every pound makes a difference.

It might work if the pricing was e.g. 1p/litre up to the needs of an typical household *not* washing cars etc, plus 10 or 20% safety margin, then £1000/litre afterwards - but you can guess which of the above categories the people at the water companies who set the pricing fall into!

Personally, we'd be better off with one - two people in a three-bed semi - but I won't have it on principle.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on April 13, 2013, 01:56:00 PM
Quote from: Pengi on April 13, 2013, 11:25:17 AM
Just had a letter from South East Water stating that the South East has been classified as being seriously short of water and now they are going to fit a water meter.

Short of water, after all the flooding and the fact that the ground is saturated!! You could not make this up.

The problem in the SE is that they flogged off all the reservoirs to developers for housing, so not only is there less water, more people want it. They like fitting water metres because they can charge you more money
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on April 13, 2013, 04:02:46 PM
Quote from: Malc on April 13, 2013, 01:56:00 PM
The problem in the SE is that they flogged off all the reservoirs to developers for housing, so not only is there less water, more people want it.

And nowhere safe to put it when they don't.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on April 16, 2013, 08:47:47 PM
Doctors :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:
Try to get an appointment to see about some of my medication that sort of works,
apart from some side effects.  Earliest I can see them is Tuesday next week.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: trainsdownunder on April 17, 2013, 01:58:45 AM
Quote from: Oldman on April 16, 2013, 08:47:47 PM
Doctors :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:
Try to get an appointment to see about some of my medication that sort of works,
apart from some side effects.  Earliest I can see them is Tuesday next week.

Not much better out here at times (assuming you live where there is a doctor).

It's getting past the receptionist that's the real challenge - "You want to see a doctor ? Are you ill ?"

I sometimes feel like answering "No. I got a leaky water pipe, and I want his advice on what to do !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on April 17, 2013, 01:07:28 PM
Quote from: trainsdownunder on April 17, 2013, 01:58:45 AM
Quote from: Oldman on April 16, 2013, 08:47:47 PM
Not much better out here at times (assuming you live where there is a doctor).

I've only ever had one encounter with an Australian doctor - after I fell off a horse. He had everything but corks on his hat, told me I needed a muscle relaxant and that beer or painkillers both work but I couldn't have both, and then while giving me a tetanus shot explained that his stock of sticking plasters was mostly for the parents as the children he used them on couldn't care less.

We need more doctors like that  :beers:

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 17, 2013, 02:36:44 PM
Trouble with muscle relaxants is I just dare not cough or sneeze after taking them  :poop:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on April 17, 2013, 05:03:02 PM
Went to have another blood test yesterday. Woke up in the morning and wondered if it was a "fasting" one, so did not have breakfast until could phone the surgery and check - what a joke!! So turned up for an 11:45 appointment, staggering with hunger, and phlebotomist tells me that is was not fasting!!!! And then, as she was not too experienced, she could not get any blood out of me (just left 8 holes in my arms). I must admit that I am a difficult proposition for blood removal, same as administering an anaesthetic, due to worn out veins from 13 months of weekly blood tests as a child.
So must now go back Friday to see the top phlebo! Oh, and this was a rush job blood test ordered by my G.P. on Monday.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on April 17, 2013, 05:13:53 PM
If there is one thing that is guaranteed to give me a sleepless night, it is a fasting blood test and there is nothing worse than being awake all night and not being able to drink coffee  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 17, 2013, 09:55:16 PM
(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j454/nobbynewport/Nocoffee.jpg) (http://s1086.photobucket.com/user/nobbynewport/media/Nocoffee.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on April 17, 2013, 09:58:08 PM
Picture of you when you get up in the mornings?   :P  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on April 17, 2013, 11:00:28 PM
All this backwards and forwards to hospitals and doctors, and tomorrow (Thursday), I am actually working at my local hospital, doing preliminary quality assurance assessments (voluntary, so unpaid......). Might just go into A & E and collapse on the floor, should get myself sorted out then.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ReBeginner on April 18, 2013, 09:20:37 PM
Still very annoyed with the pain in my knees - and that! Doctor says avoid knee ops if at all possible, but won't prescribe opium or that green plant stuff as a painkiller - pah!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on April 18, 2013, 09:23:14 PM
I fail to see why he refuses to let you have lettuce ...  :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on April 18, 2013, 09:25:09 PM
I thought he was talking about catnip ;)

Does wonders for our Moggy, give it a try?? :D


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: petercharlesfagg on April 18, 2013, 09:44:11 PM
Quote from: ReBeginner on April 18, 2013, 09:20:37 PM
Doctor says avoid knee ops if at all possible,

I sympathise greatly with anyone suffering from pain in the knees.

In 2007 I was getting around on crutches, gave up work, couldn't sleep etc. from the pain of Arthritis in both knees.

I do not know what the cause of your agony is but I can onlty say that anyone contemplating having total knee replacement, "GO FOR IT!" 

I had both replaced in 2008 and am now working again, I walk a dog a couple of miles each day, ride a bicycle and have started dancing again, it is only astanding in one place that gives me pain but it doesn't last long.

I sincerely hope that you can get some relief, it can be VERY dispiriting!

Regards, Peter.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on April 18, 2013, 09:51:09 PM
I agree with Peter, many of my friends and one exWife had knee replacements and are now mobile, pain free and getting on with life, sounds to me as though British Doctors are told to say stupid things like that to save the National Health money, might be time to get a second opinion.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on April 19, 2013, 08:51:28 AM
Quote from: ReBeginner on April 18, 2013, 09:20:37 PM
Still very annoyed with the pain in my knees - and that! Doctor says avoid knee ops if at all possible, but won't prescribe opium or that green plant stuff as a painkiller - pah!

Ask your doctor to refer you to a hospital for an orthopedic surgeon to look at you problem,if not see if you can change doctors.
From what I've been told by my orthopedic surgeon,they don't like doing knee replacements under a certain patients age because there's a chance it will wear out and need another op which can be a bit tricky.

I've been needing a new knee for a few years now,but about three years ago I mentioned it to my chiropractor and she manipulated my knee and apart from a slight twinge occasionally it's been pain free ever since.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on April 19, 2013, 07:28:45 PM
I don't believe it! Two phlebos had a go today (after I had been knocking back water all morning), and they still couldn't get any blood out. Got to wait until next Tuesday (for the scars to heal), before they will try again. If they fail, I will have to go to the hospital and let them have a go at my ankle veins. By the time I have some results on the blood I will either be dead or cured!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on April 19, 2013, 08:47:18 PM
By the time I have some results on the blood I will either be dead or cured!

Very much the latter, if you don't mind Kipper!

I know how painful it can be. Really hope they can get things sorted for you.

Try and take it easy.

Dave G

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 19, 2013, 08:54:25 PM
The vampires phlebos at my docs are no better. I always end up with an arm like a dartboard when they've finished ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on April 19, 2013, 09:21:28 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 19, 2013, 08:54:25 PM
The vampires phlebos at my docs are no better. I always end up with an arm like a dartboard when they've finished ::)

So would that be double tops or onnnnnnnne hundred and eighty  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Phil Hendry on April 20, 2013, 11:50:54 AM
Life is so flippin' unfair sometimes.  Was looking forward, yesterday, to playing with my new a/b today.  Woke up at 05:00 feeling like death - everything aching, guts churning and feeling as though I was going to throw up.  :sick: Didn't throw up, but still feel awful.  :sick2: Have had half an hour's play with the a/b, with help from the missus and my lad to get things set up. 

It's bloomin' good, but going to take me a fair while to learn to use.  So far just tried ink on paper.  Can produce a line <1mm wide, without me having learnt, at all, what pressure's best, and it'll splurge a 2" wide, er, splurge, too.

And I need a 'hanger'.  My old Aztek would, with care, sit upright on the worktop with bottle or cup attached.  Not this one though, 'cos the air-hose comes out underneath rather than at the back.  So, at the moment, I can't put it down with anything in the cup.

But I'm bloomin' fed up.  im hardly ever ill.  :veryangry: :veryangry2: :headbutt: :sick2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pete Mc on April 20, 2013, 09:23:05 PM
Am I the only one here who doesn't know what an a/b is?

Pete
:Class31: :Class37: :NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 20, 2013, 09:24:51 PM
Air brush, Pete ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pete Mc on April 20, 2013, 09:30:53 PM
Bloomin heck,never thought of that.Lifes so full of anachronisms these days,I am looking at changing my car soon and only thought they applied to car ads.All I see these days is ABS,TCS,MFSW,PSM,VGC and T&T.

Thanks Mick.   :thumbsup:

Pete
:Class31: :Class37: :NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 20, 2013, 09:35:21 PM
Quote from: Pete Mc on April 20, 2013, 09:30:53 PM
Bloomin heck,never thought of that.Lifes so full of anachronisms these days,I am looking at changing my car soon and only thought they applied to car ads.All I see these days is ABS,TCS,MFSW,PSM,VGC and T&T.

Thanks Mick.   :thumbsup:

Pete
:Class31: :Class37: :NGaugersRule:

I think you mean acronyms, Pete, but your statement "Life's so full of anachronisms" is still perfectly true :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on April 20, 2013, 09:37:35 PM
You are not alone Pete, it took me a while before the penny dropped  ::)

It would be nice if the full name was used once then abbreviated afterwards to help out people like myself who can never work them out, this is one of my pet hates so I am going to stop typing now  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Phil Hendry on April 20, 2013, 09:47:42 PM
Sorry chaps - was (and still am) feeling too grotty to feel like typing the whole words out.  At least the diahorrea has subsided now, but all the achiness, weakness and general malaise is still plaguing me.  We were supposed to be going out this evening...  The other three have gone, leaving me to fester here on me own.  :'( :sick2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 20, 2013, 09:49:41 PM
Hope it's just a 24hr bug of some sort and you feel better soon, Phil :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pete Mc on April 20, 2013, 10:00:33 PM
Thats just plain inconsiderate if you ask me.You are sat at home,dying of some terrible illness and off they go,out gallivanting as if nothings wrong.   :D

Hope you're feeling better soon.

Pete
:Class31: :Class37: :NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on April 20, 2013, 10:13:55 PM
just keep taking the whisky medicine.

it will either cure you, or you won't feel a thing  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on April 21, 2013, 01:09:50 PM
Drove through water on the road which also contained unseen pot-hole. I wasn't even going very fast!

As a result, front tyre split round rim. This is the second time that I've had tyre damage from pot-holes. Another £300+ bill for a new one  :veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on April 21, 2013, 01:13:32 PM
Quote from: Pengi on April 21, 2013, 01:09:50 PM
Another £300+ bill for a new one  :veryangry: :veryangry:
Send the Council a bill together with details on the pot-hole.

OK, odds are nothing will happen but you might get your money back !!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on April 21, 2013, 01:14:19 PM
Send the bill to the relevant council. It's worth a try and if enough people do it, they may repair the pot hole.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on April 21, 2013, 01:21:03 PM
Quote from: Pengi on April 21, 2013, 01:09:50 PM
As a result, front tyre split round rim. This is the second time that I've had tyre damage from pot-holes. Another £300+ bill for a new one  :veryangry: :veryangry:

£300 for a tyre - what do you drive, a Lamborghini??  :worried:

I hit a huge pot-hole a few years back in my Sierra - result one shredded tyre, one bent rim, and even cracked the bottom of the windscreen with the shock-loading! Took plenty of pictures of the hole on my phone, including a couple with an empty oil can next to it to prove the size involved, then sent the lot to the county council with written proof of repair costs involved. Got £440 back which covered new tyre, refurbishment of alloy wheel and replacement heated windscreen  :thumbsup:


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on April 21, 2013, 01:53:56 PM
Here's the pictures I sent them:-

Pothole with 5-litre oil can for scale:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/thumb_4774.png) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=4774)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/thumb_4775.png) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=4775)

Wheel rim:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/thumb_4772.png) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=4772)

Tyre:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/thumb_4771.png) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=4771)

Windscreen:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/thumb_4773.png) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=4773)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on April 21, 2013, 02:03:03 PM
Good on yer ! How did you verify the location of the
pothole as being on that council's road?

You could send a claim to all the councils in the UK
and make £440 x (number of councils) and make £££££££s .  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on April 21, 2013, 02:11:58 PM
Gave them the exact location by description and also reported the defect via the council's online reporting facility ;)

"Dear Manager

I wish to report an incident that occurred on Friday 26th May that unfortunately caused damage to my vehicle.

I was travelling southwards along The Street, Great Hallingbury when my nearside front wheel hit a huge pothole in the road approx 50 metres past the Flitch Way footbridge. The impact of this was enough to rip the tyre from the rim and dent the inside of the wheel, forcing me to change the wheel immediately. The force of the impact has also caused the windscreen to crack at the bottom where there was otherwise no damage beforehand. I have enclosed pictures of the damaged tyre, rim and windscreen as evidence, as well as pictures of the pothole taken on my mobile phone immediately after the incident using a 5 litre oil can for reference to indicate the size and depth of the hole, which I estimated to be 60cm by 40cm oval, and between 5cm and 10cm deep.

Whilst I realise that road damage is a big problem and cannot be avoided even with the most stringent checks, a hole as large and as deep as this must have taken weeks to evolve. I also realise that it needs members of the public to report such defects, and I did so via your website after the incident, online ref WEB1995, to which I received an acknowledgement with the Enquiry number 1968."


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 21, 2013, 02:44:25 PM
My brother in law hit a pothole and suffered £800 damage to the alloys on his BMW.
When he contacted the council to report the damage they told him if he had reported the pothole before he hit it they would have allowed his claim. He got nowt :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on April 21, 2013, 03:01:24 PM
Thanks for this - it is very helpful. The pothole was some miles from my home but once I get a new tyre fitted I will go back and photograph the pot-hole. The section of the road had a lot of pot-holes and I had slowed down but the submerged one must have nicked the rim of the wheel and the tyre (unless the tyre was faulty?). There is no damage to the inside of the wheel.

(http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k540/PendythePendolino/Banners/DSC_8721_zps2cc3589f.jpg)[/URL]

This will be the fourth new tyre that I will have fitted to this car. Two through pot-hole damage, one through my garage finding a split on the inside of the tyre and one through my own stupidity in parking (took a nick out of it and decided to replace even though garage said it would be ok). I've had cars with low-profile tyres before but none that were this sensitive.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on April 22, 2013, 09:37:09 AM
Quote from: MikeDunn on April 11, 2013, 05:21:21 PM
The tank now has a padlock on it !  And I'll have to repair that section of fence - with something tougher  :veryangry2:
Well ... we reckon the thieving scum came back last night, as the back gate was unbolted (and we're damn sure we bolted it after working in the garden) and the door to the tank was also unbolted & slightly ajar - they'd put the obstacle to it back, but we noticed !

Fortunately, as mentioned above, not only do we have a lock on the tank now - but also one on the door they didn't see until they tried (& failed) to get in !  However, I think other means will be needed ... I reckon chaining my long ladder all across will stop 'em, short of bolt cutters !

Makes yer blood boil ... :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry2: :censored: :veryangry:

Mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on April 22, 2013, 09:45:52 AM
Quote from: MikeDunn on April 22, 2013, 09:37:09 AM
Well ... we reckon the thieving scum came back last night

That's terrible Mike.  :(  I think the ladder chained to wall and a cross the door would be a great idea.  Again though, it would only take bolt cutters to cut the padlock.  Maybe bolting it to the wall?

I'd personally recommend a decent camera in your garden with motion detection turned on - then it will beep when someone enters your garden in a particular area.  Another expense, but it gives you a warning before going out there with a sharpened shovel in hand!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ReBeginner on April 22, 2013, 10:59:04 AM
Send the council a photocopy of a fully completed county court summons, best send it with a dispute of their response and statement detailing the amount is still outstanding.
Tell them in clear but polite terms 'that unless settlement is received within', say, 21 days though some might argue 28 days - (but I would argue 21 is quite reasonable, especially in consideration of the (very) fact they have already had xyz days to settle) 'that enclosed copy of summons will be submitted to Northampton Court Centre' (or you local county court if you do it paper based, or prefer) 'without further reference to you the addressee and defendant'
And make sure you do submit, on the day date threatened stated.
99% of time you will get paid before date but where not, it is important that you are seen to carry out intended action - for further negotiated settlement out of or prior to court and/or any defence lodged by 'them'
Supported by photographs any DJ District Judge will find in your favour - within certain depths of pot hole, or unavoidable position or dimensions.
Were it my car/tyre I would, if it went against my claim, make appeal and be prepared to even raise the matter to higher courts or authorities - I would go for the councils throat, just as they do we whenever there is a pound (for expenses expenditure) to be gained/collect/penalty raised! The Alain B'stards
Lord Denning, do please come back, in some shape or form, please!?!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on April 22, 2013, 11:58:20 AM
That's really awful Mike!

Without looking myself, I wonder if the oil and gas suppliers have a system that can help protect/defend these storage tanks from theft?

Maybe asking (?) your local Crime Prevention for advice would come up with something that doesn't land you in jail yourself when the perpetrator is caught in the act!

That being said, I do however approve of Tank's sharpened shovel idea!

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on April 22, 2013, 12:03:22 PM
Turn it into a large kennel and have a couple of Rottweillers or German Shepherds in there.
Large notice on back fence saying guard dogs at large and they can reach the gate in seconds can you?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on April 22, 2013, 12:11:20 PM
If you do go after the council then two things I have found worth knowing:

- get the court to send the paperwork to them. It has to be served properly and if you do it yourself and do a step wrongly (eg using 2nd not 1st class post!) some smartarse lawyer will get it thrown out. Keep the receipt and add it to the councils bill 8)

- if the council offer a settlement and you refuse it then go to small claims and are awarded less you can expect to pay all the costs for both sides (its the 'stupidity penalty' for not settling and wasting all their time)

better yet get a solicitor involved.

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on April 22, 2013, 12:23:19 PM
Quote from: daveg on April 22, 2013, 11:58:20 AM
That's really awful Mike!

Without looking myself, I wonder if the oil and gas suppliers have a system that can help protect/defend these storage tanks from theft?
Yup, it is ...  At least this is a metal tank, and is built into the garage ... so they can't easily puncture it (unlike polyprop, which I had been thinking of moving to - not any more !!!).  None nicked this time, due to the lock on the door to the tank.  Will have a look-see for some kind of siren detector, put inside with the tank ...

Quote
That being said, I do however approve of Tank's sharpened shovel idea!
Been sitting by the back door since we noticed the last lot was nicked !

And I think I'm gonna have to be an unsociable neighbour & switch the perimiter lighting on again ... none near the tank though :(  Gonna have to sort that out.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on April 22, 2013, 12:26:55 PM
Reminds me.. does anyone know of a good source for a motion sensor lamp with a delay *before* it comes on. We keep getting drunks peeing down (or near!) our drain and I'd like put up a light that comes on once they've started not before - so they think twice in future as they stand illuminated

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on April 22, 2013, 12:41:43 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on April 22, 2013, 12:23:19 PM
Quote from: daveg on April 22, 2013, 11:58:20 AM
That's really awful Mike!

Without looking myself, I wonder if the oil and gas suppliers have a system that can help protect/defend these storage tanks from theft?
Yup, it is ...  At least this is a metal tank, and is built into the garage ... so they can't easily puncture it (unlike polyprop, which I had been thinking of moving to - not any more !!!).  None nicked this time, due to the lock on the door to the tank.  Will have a look-see for some kind of siren detector, put inside with the tank ...

Quote
That being said, I do however approve of Tank's sharpened shovel idea!
Been sitting by the back door since we noticed the last lot was nicked !

And I think I'm gonna have to be an unsociable neighbour & switch the perimiter lighting on again ... none near the tank though :(  Gonna have to sort that out.

Just a thought but how about the door being linked to one of those hugely loud air horns/screamers? They can really hurt, esp if your inside with one going off!

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on April 22, 2013, 12:42:50 PM
You mean the siren detector I mentioned  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on April 22, 2013, 01:52:36 PM
If you're remote enough to need an oil tank, do you have a septic tank too? if so, swapping them could be fun the next time the thieving gits come by :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on April 22, 2013, 02:03:46 PM
LOL, that would have been ... 'interesting'  :D

No, the septic tank was disconnected when the village got mains sewers before we moved in.  From memory, it's downhill from me though, outside my property.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: AndyGif on April 22, 2013, 02:18:22 PM

Possible oil tank detterent?

[url=http://www.vetuk.co.uk/cat-accessories-cat-deterrents-c-626_812/ssscat-spray-deterrent-p-5291]http://www.vetuk.co.uk/cat-accessories-cat-deterrents-c-626_812/ssscat-spray-deterrent-p-5291 (http://www.vetuk.co.uk/cat-accessories-cat-deterrents-c-626_812/ssscat-spray-deterrent-p-5291)[/url]

attach some tubing to the nozzle and route it to spray something nasty smelling, like the cheap syphon airbrushes do.  Though you need to be able to sneak up on it yourself  to be able to turn it off with out getting sprayed.
Keeps our moggies out of the bedroom.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ReBeginner on April 22, 2013, 02:23:41 PM
Pengi
To win you do not need a solicitor, claims up to £5000 are fast tracked and intended to be settled simply - if there is/was a court hearing you would be LIP Litigant In Person and can claim (it used to be £7.50 per hour) for your time, going back to take a picture will qualify both cost and time wise - so keep a note of all time you spend and in presenting council with draft (print blank forms from court service web site and fill out in hand) summons, show costs to date and do claim interest (it used to be 8%)
You will need to find out, by research on net will tell you, that is all a solicitor who did not already know will do, what depth of hole is unreasonable for council to ignore and so become responsible, ditto with actual area of said hole.
You say there are numerous holes, photo the lot, close up and landscape to show the road and what part of it the holes occupy - any help you give the judge (should one become involved) will be looked on favourably - remember, often it the caser that the District Judges dealing with this level of case are usually solicitors giving one or two days per week with view to becoming full time DJ salaried by Kier Starmer's crew - they are human, very much so and as such are helpful and tolerant of LIPs against bureaucracy and stuff.
Don't let them get away with it - you pay your taxes and support the overstaffed bureaucratic self servant council and councillors so get it paid - even tell the council had you known they had not failed to maintain that road you would not have used it - ask them for a list of roads under their control that are maintained properly so that you travel only those routes - you'll get a blank sheet of paper!
As for earlier tyres, you can go back either 3 years or 6 years to claim on those but it might prove difficult since holes might well have been filled, by now.
You can also request under Freedom Of Information a list of other claims they have received over the last however many months or years you want to go back for the offending stretch of road - and separately ask what outcome was of said claims and again, separately question, what remedial action council then took!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ReBeginner on April 22, 2013, 02:31:01 PM
Etched Pixels
Sorry although I know what you mean but getting the court to post is not reliable unless it is because one has used the on-line service to raise the summons - the old 'clear your CCJ's' relied on claiming summons had never been received, and was for quite sometime successful - and that was court postings - so, Recorded or Special Delivery only, but cost of Special might not be allowed in expenses claim since only service was necessity, not speed of delivery or, as above, because it is court service automated from Northampton by web site it is deemed as served.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on April 22, 2013, 06:21:23 PM
Hi Mike, when I used to drive firm's land rovers, they had a sieve welded into the filler nozzle to stop people siphoning fuel out.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: keerout on April 22, 2013, 07:24:32 PM
How about this: go in the hospital for a thyroid op, after the op, still under, but sleeping it off, my daughter is watching me and notices a big swelling. medics duly noticed and alarmed, I get bundled back to the op room. turns out someone forgot to tie up an artery.....  :thumbsdown:
Me, with a double dose of anesthetic left hallucinating for 3 days they had to strap me down I've got the contusions to proof it   :veryangry:
I'm just released with a bug in my lungs so I can not kiss anybody without killing them. picked up the local tummy bug too no Catmandu 2 step, more like the health service
8 step  :-[  >:(  :-X      (that's a Dutch hospital for you)tomorrow I have to go back as they didn't have my meds yet     
anyhoo, I'm home again and have at least 10 days for some serious modelling  :D
Gerard  :unimpressed:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on April 22, 2013, 07:36:39 PM
Oo-er! Sounds horrid.  :sick2:

Get well soon!

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 22, 2013, 07:40:09 PM
Very sorry to hear that, Gerard, and hope you are on the mend soon. :thumbsup:
I thought that sort of treatment was reserved for English hospitals ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Phil Hendry on April 22, 2013, 07:43:54 PM
Not good.  Hope you feel better soon.  We always used to say that if we, as low-temperature physicists, were as 'careful' about our work as the average doctor, what remained of us would be laid in the bottom of the crater along with the rest of the lab.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ReBeginner on April 22, 2013, 08:21:47 PM
So very sorry to hear this Gerard, hope you can be fixed up properly and mend as quickly and painlessly as possible.
Thought and prayers for you, with you.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on April 22, 2013, 08:28:14 PM
I hope you feel better quickly Gerard and make your feelings known to the doctors  :veryangry:

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on April 22, 2013, 08:43:55 PM
As another who has had to endure the thyroid out op (three times, as they managed to screw up with me, too), I hope you feel better soon.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ReBeginner on April 22, 2013, 09:14:06 PM
Pengi,
If you do decide to claim, you'll want to see/study some parts of 'Justice' - the Govt new name for the courts et al
http://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil (http://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil)
In the event of an offer (to settle) being made/received before or during the case processing it's called a Part 36 offer - not because it's a 36th or part, but because it is provided for in CPR Civil (Court) Procedural Rules and it can be seen as poor form not to accept a reasonable offer, say 66+% of original claim, notwithstanding costs or interest claimed etc.

www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules/part36 (http://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules/part36)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: keerout on April 23, 2013, 01:40:20 AM
Thanks guys I really needed to get that out of my system the worst bit of it all is; the Dutch health sysyem carries a mandatory own risk of ±€ 350.- so you pay to get maltreated and then do a bit of shoestring living/ modelling as the in-surance just takes the money out of your bank if you do not agree with that, you end up un-in-sured
(wich is illegal by Dutch law)  :'( (all -s intentional)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on April 23, 2013, 04:53:20 PM
Third attempt to get blood out of my arms - failed! I must now wait a week, for the multi stab wounds to heal, and then go back. Hopefully I will see the uber-phlebo, who is currently on holiday, and she can do it, otherwise I will have to go to the local hospital. Offered to go today, but turned down as it would cost the surgery to have the hospital phlebo do it - even though I might end up there anyway. The appointment is "just in time" to get the sample tested, and the results back, in time to see the quack again. You couldn't make it up!!!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on April 23, 2013, 05:56:43 PM
Seems to me nowadays that whenever you go for any kind of treatment the first thing they do is look at the cost before deciding whether to treat you or not.

I had to have a blood test last week and told the nurse that it was usually a problem getting the needle into a vein,the nurse said "no problem" and proceeded hit the vein first time and it never even bruised afterwards.
I've had it in the past where they've given up and got someone else to do it.


Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on April 23, 2013, 06:58:05 PM
Thanks for the comments on blood tests guys >:(
Went to the docs today, and now it looks like all sorts of tests/scans etc to resolve the problem.
Got blood test 11.45 tomorrow.  Blood pressure was low and pulse was high so  ??? ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ReBeginner on April 23, 2013, 11:44:24 PM
After days of checking ITV4 in case Chris Gale is batting in IPL ... today........... I didn't - did you see it? The ton off 33? Or however many - he's me new Gordon or Viv - I bet Si Beef of Botham loved it, bet it reminded him of old times ............... and I can't sodding find a replay ............. are there 2 L's in rowlocks?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Phil Hendry on April 24, 2013, 12:04:10 AM
I had problems with my thyroid, now happily resolved, and had dozens of blood tests whilst it was all going on.  In general, I found, the knack with blood tests is to (a) be well hydrated - drink a pint or two of water an hour or so before the test and (b) be good and warm, bordering on too hot, so the veins near the skin open up.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on April 24, 2013, 04:25:33 AM
Quote from: ReBeginner on April 23, 2013, 11:44:24 PM
After days of checking ITV4 in case Chris Gale is batting in IPL ... today........... I didn't - did you see it? The ton off 33? Or however many - he's me new Gordon or Viv - I bet Si Beef of Botham loved it, bet it reminded him of old times ............... and I can't sodding find a replay ............. are there 2 L's in rowlocks?

And the prize for the most cryptic post goes to . . . ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on April 24, 2013, 07:02:21 AM
Quote from: Sprintex on April 24, 2013, 04:25:33 AM
Quote from: ReBeginner on April 23, 2013, 11:44:24 PM
After days of checking ITV4 in case Chris Gale is batting in IPL ... today........... I didn't - did you see it? The ton off 33? Or however many - he's me new Gordon or Viv - I bet Si Beef of Botham loved it, bet it reminded him of old times ............... and I can't sodding find a replay ............. are there 2 L's in rowlocks?

And the prize for the most cryptic post goes to . . . ;)


Paul

Now I know I've got up too early! Back to bed!! :sleep:

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on April 24, 2013, 08:04:24 AM
Quote from: ReBeginner on April 23, 2013, 11:44:24 PM
After days of checking ITV4 in case Chris Gale is batting in IPL ... today........... I didn't - did you see it? The ton off 33? Or however many - he's me new Gordon or Viv - I bet Si Beef of Botham loved it, bet it reminded him of old times ............... and I can't sodding find a replay ............. are there 2 L's in rowlocks?

It's just not cricket Old Chap is it!  ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ReBeginner on April 24, 2013, 09:51:58 AM
Hi Ho Ho you three, very funny Sprintex, Dave G & Jack9465 - that whacking great fast ton is just as important as NGF you know, with out it we would become anoraks, okay?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on April 24, 2013, 10:04:43 AM
Sorry, I wasn't trying to be funny, I genuinely didn't understand a word of it ???

I'm guessing from Jack's post it is something to do with cricket?


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on April 24, 2013, 10:14:42 AM
Well caught, that man!  :claphappy:

I'm sure you're forgiven.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on April 24, 2013, 10:19:14 AM
Quote from: ReBeginner on April 23, 2013, 11:44:24 PM
After days of checking ITV4 in case Chris Gale is batting in IPL ... today........... I didn't - did you see it? The ton off 33? Or however many - he's me new Gordon or Viv - I bet Si Beef of Botham loved it, bet it reminded him of old times ............... and I can't sodding find a replay ............. are there 2 L's in rowlocks?

Really don't know what's wrong with you guys, I'm certainly not a cricket or even much sport fan but I saw the item on the ITV news last night and this one big hunk of a guy scored a 100 off of 30 balls which was a new record.   :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on April 24, 2013, 10:22:33 AM
I avoid all TV News and newspapers like the plague ;)

Enough going on in my own life without worrying about what's going on everywhere else! :D


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on April 24, 2013, 10:38:30 AM
Quote from: whiteswan on April 24, 2013, 10:19:14 AM
Quote from: ReBeginner on April 23, 2013, 11:44:24 PM
After days of checking ITV4 in case Chris Gale is batting in IPL ... today........... I didn't - did you see it? The ton off 33? Or however many - he's me new Gordon or Viv - I bet Si Beef of Botham loved it, bet it reminded him of old times ............... and I can't sodding find a replay ............. are there 2 L's in rowlocks?

Really don't know what's wrong with you guys, I'm certainly not a cricket or even much sport fan but I saw the item on the ITV news last night and this one big hunk of a guy scored   a 100 off of 30 balls which was a new record.   :P

Well, that explains everything, Caz!  :heart2:

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 24, 2013, 10:41:24 AM
Quote from: daveg on April 24, 2013, 10:38:30 AM
Quote from: whiteswan on April 24, 2013, 10:19:14 AM
Quote from: ReBeginner on April 23, 2013, 11:44:24 PM
After days of checking ITV4 in case Chris Gale is batting in IPL ... today........... I didn't - did you see it? The ton off 33? Or however many - he's me new Gordon or Viv - I bet Si Beef of Botham loved it, bet it reminded him of old times ............... and I can't sodding find a replay ............. are there 2 L's in rowlocks?

Really don't know what's wrong with you guys, I'm certainly not a cricket or even much sport fan but I saw the item on the ITV news last night and this one big hunk of a guy scored   a 100 off of 30 balls which was a new record.   :P

Well, that explains everything, Caz!  :heart2:

Dave G

Yeah - nice to know the important things are correct :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Christina on April 25, 2013, 01:24:45 PM
Just stepped outside to start on making my baseboard, Just picked up the tape measure and it starts to pour down... Bloody typical.  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on April 25, 2013, 03:38:55 PM
I thought that was the usual climate in Liverpool ... ?

:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Phil Hendry on April 25, 2013, 03:47:16 PM
Okay.  I order something from a shop on eBay, and they send me something quite diffferent.  So I open a custmoer support case on eBay, and the seller offers me a 'full' refund of the original purchase price postage - but expecting me to cover the cost of postage back to them.  Why the heck??  They made the flipping mistake so I end up paying extra to sort it out?   :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry2: :veryangry2: :veryangry2:

I've sent a response: "Why do *I* have to bear the cost of sending the item back when *you* made the mistake by sending me the wrong item? This is not acceptable to me."

:headbutt: :headbutt: :headbutt: :headbutt:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davieb on April 25, 2013, 03:55:45 PM
Quote from: Christina on April 25, 2013, 01:24:45 PM
Just stepped outside to start on making my baseboard, Just picked up the tape measure and it starts to pour down... Bloody typical.  :veryangry:

I know the feeling well  :veryangry:

Still trying to get outside to get some primer on my Cartic set  :'(

dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on April 25, 2013, 04:08:30 PM
The sun is shining bright here in Newcastle  :D   :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davieb on April 25, 2013, 04:24:06 PM

Quote from: scotsoft on April 25, 2013, 04:08:30 PM
The sun is shining bright here in Newcastle  :D   :P

Well send us some down to the North West and stop hogging it all  :D  :D  :P

dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on April 25, 2013, 04:59:31 PM
Gorgeous sun in the South right now :P - rain expected tomorrow :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Phil Hendry on April 25, 2013, 06:03:42 PM
The seller is still maintaining that I have to bear the cost of returning the goods.  I have now pointed out that, under UK Distance Selling Regulations (which do apply on eBay, if (as is the case here) the seller has a business selling goods either partly or solely on-line), if the seller sends substitute goods without the agreement of the purchaser, the seller is liable for the cost of return shipping.  Let's see what happens now...

I'm very, very, bored with this.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on April 25, 2013, 06:08:27 PM
Stick to it Phil, there's no way you should be out of pocket by a penny when they screwed up.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Phil Hendry on April 26, 2013, 10:56:45 AM
Oh, I'm not giving in.  I'm a Cumbrian by birth - stubborn as a mule and tight as a duck's back end.  And fairly familiar with consumer law (and where to find out what I don't know), having gone several rounds up against Currys' on one occasion (I won that one too, in the small claims court).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Phil Hendry on April 26, 2013, 11:44:54 AM
Looks as though I may have succeeded...  The seller sent me another message to say that they're sending me the correct item, and letting me keep the incorrect one, rather than pay to send it back.  My inclination is to see what the post brings in a day or two before celebrating though!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mustermark on April 26, 2013, 03:22:31 PM
Good result Phil.  And maybe you can sell the wrong one one eBay - make up for your time and inconvenience.

Funny that, I won against Curry's too.  Had to threaten small claims court and then they caved in and gave me my refund on faulty goods.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EddieA on April 27, 2013, 06:21:02 PM
Quote from: Mustermark on April 26, 2013, 03:22:31 PM
Good result Phil.  And maybe you can sell the wrong one one eBay - make up for your time and inconvenience.

Funny that, I won against Curry's too.  Had to threaten small claims court and then they caved in and gave me my refund on faulty goods.

Trading Standards is another good avenue to go down against retailers (not sure how it would work on Fleabay against private sales).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Phil Hendry on April 27, 2013, 08:02:44 PM
Quote from: EddieA on April 27, 2013, 06:21:02 PMTrading Standards is another good avenue to go down against retailers (not sure how it would work on Fleabay against private sales).
Trading Standards were completely useless when I was scrapping with Currys. 

Private auction  sales on Fleabay are virtually unregulatable - it really is a case of caveat emptor (buyer beware).  You're slightly (but only slightly) better off  with auctions run by businesses.  You're only fully protected by the distance selling regs on Fleabay if you buy from a retailer via 'Buy it Now'.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on April 27, 2013, 08:41:22 PM
Quote from: Phil Hendry on April 27, 2013, 08:02:44 PM
You're slightly (but only slightly) better off  with auctions run by businesses. 

Not clear that it is any weaker than Buy It Now!. Contrary to ebay's public jargon the 'auction' sales on Ebay are not auctions as they are time limited. In fact they rely on them not being auctions as otherwise they would need an auctioneer etc !

Private sales are very much buyer beware and all the usual business protections don't apply. It's up to you to go beat them up via small claims.

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on May 01, 2013, 11:51:11 AM
Just went to print out some brick paper and tile sheets and my colour ink cartridge has just run out. :veryangry:

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on May 07, 2013, 08:50:47 PM
 :veryangry: Yet another chest infection kicks in gets me gasping for air 24/7 :veryangry:
Nice GP comes to see me following a phone call from my wife.
Now on pretty green anti diabolics again and can see pretty flashing colours as I fly in my sleep  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on May 07, 2013, 08:58:39 PM
Quote from: jonclox on May 07, 2013, 08:50:47 PMcan see pretty flashing colours as I fly in my sleep  :hmmm:

They are the landing lights :D
Know what you mean John, just gone to put in a repeat prescription online and discovered have to go and see them to get it re-authorized. Phone call in the morning as the only available slot was when I shall be at the opticians  8 miles away.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on May 09, 2013, 02:40:02 PM
Looks like reading, modeling on hold till I get my new glasses.
Managing to concentrate for a max of 30 minutes before I have to rest the eyes.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on May 10, 2013, 05:03:32 PM
 :veryangry:

Sitting next to Beloved who has been on hold (after being cut off twice) with HMRC refunds line for 30 mins as she is owed a substantial amount of Tax back. The automated robot keeps directing us to a website which says "call this number".

They are SO quick to take the money from you but getting it back is like blood from a stone.....

:veryangry:

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on May 10, 2013, 05:16:29 PM
Quote from: Oldman on May 09, 2013, 02:40:02 PM
Looks like reading, modeling on hold till I get my new glasses.
Managing to concentrate for a max of 30 minutes before I have to rest the eyes.

If you know what your prescription is for your eyes and both eyes need roughly the same magnification, the £1 shop do a range of reading specs usually up to +3.5.

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on May 10, 2013, 07:29:09 PM
Cheers John,
I have looked at £1 shop glasses but unfortunately they are not to  my Prescription. :(

I have a pair of the ones closest to my prescription but they are not good enough .
On the higher strengths they go up in 0.5 strengths I need the one in the middle, shame they don't do the higher strength in 0.25 increments. :headbutt:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on May 10, 2013, 10:11:53 PM
Just got back from collecting my latest prescription from our late night chemist (I forgot earlier). :goggleeyes:
Now got:
3 inhalers - 2 x steroid based.
1 oral gloop to be taken to cure the infection caused by the steroids.
1 eye drops  for an eye infection. I hate eye drops!

So far that is it for this month.

Am I slowly falling apart ??? ???

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Leo1961 on May 10, 2013, 10:17:24 PM
Quote from: Oldman on May 10, 2013, 10:11:53 PM

Am I slowly falling apart ??? ???

Not so slowly by the sound of things  :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on May 12, 2013, 04:48:53 PM
Quote from: Oldman on May 10, 2013, 10:11:53 PM
Just got back from collecting my latest prescription from our late night chemist (I forgot earlier). :goggleeyes:
Now got:
3 inhalers - 2 x steroid based.
1 oral gloop to be taken to cure the infection caused by the steroids.
1 eye drops  for an eye infection. I hate eye drops!

So far that is it for this month.

Am I slowly falling apart ??? ???

Oldman you have to keep it together even if it takes all those potions PLUS super glue.
You are a source of inspiration......well sometimes :)
At least you have alate night chemist..

Hows that brickworks coming on?. The power station has nearly taken flight on a number of occasions lately.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on May 12, 2013, 08:13:36 PM
Oldman you have to keep it together even if it takes all those potions PLUS super glue.
You are a source of inspiration......well sometimes
At least you have alate night chemist..

Hows that brickworks coming on?. The power station has nearly taken flight on a number of occasions lately.

Thanks Jerry.
The plasticard version is not yet started.
Waiting for my new glasses before I start .
At least by doing it in card first I have found out where any pitfalls will be.
As for superglue  :veryangry: had to repair something and manager to glue finger and thumb together.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Griffo on May 12, 2013, 10:38:09 PM
Quote from: Oldman on May 09, 2013, 02:40:02 PM
Looks like reading, modeling on hold till I get my new glasses.
Managing to concentrate for a max of 30 minutes before I have to rest the eyes.

Finally realised I was struggling to read the computer screen without leaning forward so booked an eye test with our local optician. Thought it would be a straight-forward update to the prescription as I hadn't been for a test for some three years .... I wish!

Told subsequent to the test that my driving glasses and reading glasses are correct. I asked why I couldn't easily read the monitor screen as I used to. Apparently .... I'm getting OLD. That's easy for her to say. Sounds like SWMBO.

So now I need a third pair of glasses - one for driving, one for read and a new VDU sfecific pair.

I could have had another Class 22 for less! Might get one just to be awkward.

Steve
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on May 13, 2013, 07:41:49 AM
When I got to exactly the same stage, I switched to Varifocal lenses. Never regretted it as I kept losing my glasses.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on May 13, 2013, 08:11:55 AM
Quote from: Malc on May 13, 2013, 07:41:49 AM
When I got to exactly the same stage, I switched to Varifocal lenses. Never regretted it as I kept losing my glasses.

My recommendation too!

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on May 13, 2013, 09:48:20 AM
Quote from: daveg on May 13, 2013, 08:11:55 AM
Quote from: Malc on May 13, 2013, 07:41:49 AM
When I got to exactly the same stage, I switched to Varifocal lenses. Never regretted it as I kept losing my glasses.

My recommendation too!
Dave G

I got my first pair of varifocal specs two years ago, they have four different prescriptions in them and it took me all of 10 to 15 minutes to get used to them.  They are simply brilliant  :thumbsup:

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on May 13, 2013, 10:00:40 AM
I've had varifocals for the last 20 years.
This time they recomended a seperate pair of reading glasses as that was the only area I was having problems.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on May 13, 2013, 10:37:08 AM

I now wear glasses for the first time in my life and I went straight for the Varifocals, as I need them for driving and Computer work, as I was finding I was having to hold things further away from my nose to read any small print, but I was advised to get a 2nd pair for close work. But I just bought one of those magnifying glass systems, where I wear it on my head and can put in different strength lenses depending on what I'm doing, I can also wear my glasses underneath them if I so desire.

One with varifocals though, is that they do take some getting used to if you've never worn glasses before, that is until you learn to move your head to see things to your side, not your eyes otherwise you get some very strange effects, oh and be careful with coming down stairs.  ;) ;)

Regards

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on May 13, 2013, 12:11:27 PM
I wore varifocals for a few years but got fed up of only seeing things vertical in the straight ahead position and leaning away on either side.
I now have bifocals for normal use and another pair of normal lenses for sitting at the computer.

The being careful coming down stairs applies to bifocals as well,I missed my step down off a welding manipulator some years ago and landed with my back across a steel box and had to go to casualty,put me off work for a few weeks.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on May 13, 2013, 12:46:51 PM
Must admit even after 20 years I still hate escalators in shopping malls.
Never tried bi-focals. Went straight from distance only to varifocals. Only thing I don't like is the price :(



Maybe we should start a new thread -  Opticians or the blind thread ???
With the option of larger fonts
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Griffo on May 13, 2013, 03:17:08 PM
Thanks for the insight ....!!

May well consider varifocals once I can appreciate whether the "vdu" pair make a difference.

Steve
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 13, 2013, 06:32:50 PM
I can't see what the problem is :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on May 15, 2013, 11:30:21 AM
I have been reading some pretty sad stories about the health system back home in the UK and on occasions have said here in Oz by comparison we don't have a bad system.

Well I take it back, 3 1/2 weeks ago I went to the emergency waiting room at our local hospital, my problem was that my heart had gone into Atrial Fibrilation instead of its normal Sinus Rhythm, my pulse had gone crazy and was doing all kinds of crazy things.

They put me straight in to the ward, connected me up to a monitor, fitted a cannula in my arm and took blood samples, I was told 4 hours later that I was to see a Cardiologist the next morning that would give me an Echocardiogram and hit me with the shocko things to shock my heart back into its proper rhythm.

At 1am in the morning I was visited by a Chinese Lady Doctor that they had called in  specially , she told me there was no way that the Heart Specialist could see me that morning and I could go home, I was told that the doctors would talk to the Cardiologist and arrangements would be made to put things right.

I walked out of the hospital at 2am in the morning and drove myself home.

Three and a half weeks have passed and I have not had any notification or appointment made to visit the Outpatients Dept at the hospital, my heart beat is still all over the place and I am wondering what the hell you have to do to get some kind of service at a hospital, I am considering going back to the Hospital Emergency again next week with a feeling that once you get into your late 60s or 70s no one gives a toss if you are alive or dead.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on May 15, 2013, 12:03:15 PM
So sorry you've had a bad time and are still unwell.

I'd call emergency service and get yourself taken in.

Having said that. I don't know how your health service works but can't your GP get things moving?

My 92 year old dad had several stays in a UK hospital before he passed last month. The last stay started with an 11 hour wait in A&E without the offer a drink or anything to eat until 7 in the evening. We had to go to the volunteer café to get stuff for him. Big noises here about our A&E not coping with the level of work.

All the best and please keep us posted.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on May 15, 2013, 12:05:37 PM
Quote from: longbridge on May 15, 2013, 11:30:21 AM
I am considering going back to the Hospital Emergency again next week with a feeling that once you get into your late 60s or 70s no one gives a toss if you are alive or dead.

Does the 'US' approach work in Australia -

'Dear Sir, I wish to draw your attention to a matter of potential gross medical negligence....'

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: IanUK on May 15, 2013, 12:21:48 PM
Sorry to hear that Longbridge,

I have heard the NHS are starting to work abroad, but in all seriousness my experience of the NHS over the past three years regarding my heart/high blood pressure has been appalling.

I was first aware/diagnosed with high blood pressure was when I keeled over at work, and blue lighted to A&E with a suspected heart attack.

I was wheeled and seen by a very young, and mean, very young doctor. I thought he had arrived at work via skateboard.

In his medical opinion there was nothing wrong with me, and was told to go. Luckily my wife is a nurse and took me straight back to my GP who was so concerned he wanted to send me back by ambulance. I refused.

After being given pills and potions by the doc my heart rate settled down. My wife put a complaint in and we received a grovelling apology, and it turns out the alleged doctor I saw was a junior and was his first day out of medical school and wasn't being supervised, but he went a head anyway.

Fast forward three years; I became unwell during the night in February around 2 AM, I checked my blood pressure and is was astronomically high. As my wife was working nights, I contacted the out of hours GP and asked if I could take extra medication.

No was the answer, and I would have to go to them due to my history. It was chucking it down with snow, my son got up and dug his car out to take me.

Guess where the out of hours is based?? Next to the A&E department. I got there, went straight in, the doc took my blood pressure and said it was a little high, but he wasn't concerned and that my blood pressure monitor at home wasn't calibrated properly and sent me away all in about 5 minutes.

I was still feeling unwell and went home back to bed. To cut a very long story short. I saw my GP the next day who was shocked at my treatment, I was really poorly and I have not been at work since as I have been signed off long term sick.

My wife took the blood pressure monitor for calibrating, which it didn't need as it was spot on. So another complaint went forward.

They responded and admitted I had been treated in a ad hoc way. No basic questions had been asked, my treatment sheet was incomplete and no discharge advice had been given or recorded, it was basically blank. More importantly their time recording system showed, from the time of arrival to the time of departure, I had been in their department less than 7 minutes!

If it makes you feel any better Longbridge, I'm only 47, and feel the system does not care either. So it must be even more difficult as you get into later years.

If you are wondering which hospital, just look at where I'm from its speaks for it self.

Good luck mate,

Ian.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: trainsdownunder on May 15, 2013, 12:23:57 PM
Sorry to hear you're un well Dave

Take it steady fella
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Garryj on May 15, 2013, 01:03:26 PM
Monday morning, 2 1/2 hours to drive to work because some Numpty decides that Monday morning rush hour is a good time to block a lane on one of the main roads into London to repair a bus stop!

Tuesday morning, 3 hours to get in because two fellow motorists can't drive in a straight line and collide.

This morning 2 hours to get in because an HGV driver decides to block a lane whilst he waits for a site to open.

Grrr! Roll on retirement. 14 months to go!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 15, 2013, 06:27:01 PM
You have my sympathies, Dave.
Some 20 years ago my heartbeat rose to 160 beats per min during the night.
Feeble attempts to calm it down (which included a cuppa and a fag ::)) I rang the doctors surgery to be told I had to call the ShropDoc (out of hours Shropshire Doctor) and was told 'it would be easier for me to drive to the hospital than for the doc to try and find me'
I spent 24 hrs in hospital while they calmed it down with drugs and was packed off home (after paying £12 parking fee, of course >:()
Since then I have been on 3 medications per day + 75mg aspirin with no repeat episode, although it does clang about occasionally. Still, I hear that the aspirin and the statins I take do me good in other respects ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on May 15, 2013, 08:08:14 PM
I've come to the conclusion that in the NHS, the last thing to have any importance is patients care.

I've been up to my local practice this afternoon,cars parked as far as the eye could see along the road....it is the monthly Wednesday meeting for all the Newark doctors,there is not a doctor available anywhere in Newark for one Wednesday each month.

I'll have to go back in the morning now.

Allan

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on May 15, 2013, 09:31:22 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on May 15, 2013, 06:27:01 PM
You have my sympathies, Dave.
Some 20 years ago my heartbeat rose to 160 beats per min during the night.
Feeble attempts to calm it down (which included a cuppa and a fag ::)) I rang the doctors surgery to be told I had to call the ShropDoc (out of hours Shropshire Doctor) and was told 'it would be easier for me to drive to the hospital than for the doc to try and find me'
I spent 24 hrs in hospital while they calmed it down with drugs and was packed off home (after paying £12 parking fee, of course >:()
Since then I have been on 3 medications per day + 75mg aspirin with no repeat episode, although it does clang about occasionally. Still, I hear that the aspirin and the statins I take do me good in other respects ???

Hi Mike, I think the reason they haven't been in touch is because I am taking Warfarin (Rat Poison) to thin my blood and also take other Beta Blocker tablets to slow my heart down, they tell me that it helps reduce the chances of getting a clot which causes a stroke, that may be the case but it doesn't help my ticker to stop beating fast, slow and with misses, its like it has a dirty spark plug or something, unless they have a Crystal Ball and can positively tell me I cant get a stroke I might believe them.

What pees me off is that I have done everything the asked me to do 5 years ago when I had stents fitted, no smoking, no drinking, plenty of walking, reduced fat, reduced sugar and reduced salt, a fat lot of good that does when you go to a hospital that doesn't want to know you.

I have decided that if I don't hear from Outpatients by Monday next week I will front the Hospital again and hopefully get something done.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on May 25, 2013, 11:43:50 PM
Hey Dave,

Just had a look at this thread- sorry to hear about the situation. Yeah, ticker problems are scary... it's our age, I guess. I'm in the ballpark too as all my family  and I mean ALL - every single one of 'em carked it of heart problems, most in their early  to mid '60s. EEK.

I agree with you about the Emergency wards here in Oz, though. I have had exactly the same experience (on more than one occasion) where I've been hooked up to pipes and tubes and wires and things while feeling not at all well, left for a few hours then told to rak off home.

Just a couple of weeks ago, my wife slammed the car door on her finger and did quite extensive damage and spent all night there. I fell onto the corner of a coffee table at my brother-in-law's house in Canberra at 9.30 pm and came close to losing my eye. I went straight to hospital, sat bleeding all over the place until 6am when they decided they wanted to operate. I said no way, so they eventually let me leave at 2.30pm after extensive discussion and finally decided surgery was unnecessary.

I too am on heart medication.

Take it easy and I hope it works out.

George
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on May 26, 2013, 05:59:53 AM
Thanks for your kind comments George, Queensland has gone down the gurgler over the past few months, the current State dropkicks have cut so much out of health, that is why the situation is getting worse.

Talking to a Nurse with 25 years service that never moaned about the job in all that time told me, the government has stopped them buying plastic spoons to feed kids, elderly patients and stir their own tea, they don't have a cutlery set in Emergency and rely on plastic spoons.

They also stopped supplying the little plastic straws that bend by a little concertina section in the middle, these are needed for people in bed that require a drink.

I wont go into the way I really think because this is a model railway forum but there is millions of $$$$ being spent on new arrivals to Australia while the rest of the population suffer.

Am I angry  :veryangry: you bet and whats worse no one wants to do anything about Australia's problems  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ozzie Bill. on May 26, 2013, 06:35:11 AM
I know this is supposed to be the angry thread, but I have to reply to defend both local and NHS hospitals. diagnosed 4 years ago with cancer in mouth, extensive surgery, including new jaw, then chemo, radio and unfortunate complications. The Royal Melbourne and The Alfred, 2 major hospitals in Melb, have been incredible in the way they looked after me and give me almost priority treatment every time I have to visit. Last year, 4 ops on my mouth to try and give me some implants so I can get some cosmetic teeth. Land in UK for Xmas, day 1, one of the implants falls out. Local A&E nr London, were great. Full service, called specialist at another hospital, discussed my xrays, gave me a course of action and also gave me copies of everything I needed in case I had to visit another A&E whilst travelling in UK. Just great service. Maybe I have lucked in. Cheers, Bill.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on May 26, 2013, 06:57:00 AM
Hi Bill,

I am probably being a bit general in my posting, because I actually have very close friends who have found the local service here very good and have no complaints at all. However, whereas it sounds like you have lucked in, as you say, I must have definitely lucked out, because my own experiences in the last twenty years have been as I describe.

Anyway, so far touch wood (he said, putting finger to forehead) I don't seem to have had anywhere near the severity of probs that you and Dave have encountered healthwise. I wish all the very best to both of you.

Cheers, George. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on May 26, 2013, 08:50:46 AM
All Aussies know that it depends on the State Government as to how good or bad the local hospital system is.

I lived in Victoria for 30 years, my ex was a radiologists assistant at the local hospital and I was on the hospital committee as well as being the photographer of new born babies, I never had any complaints regarding the Victorian Hospital system having spent time at St Vincents regarding heart problems.

I also have mo complaints with Queensland's hospital system after getting a 3.5cm hole in the heart repaired at the Prince Charles Hospital and later 2 Stents fitted to my ticker at the Princess Alexandria Hospital both in Brisbane, my Wife had wonderful service when she had a heart attack in the emergency section of the Mater Hospital, all this work was carried out on the Public Health System.

Living in Queensland and listening to our State Government telling us they need to tighten their belt and make cuts in all areas including the Police Force at a time when Crime is on the rise, Education with the closure of 9 State Schools because the land they are built on is worth a fortune, and of course the Health System with waiting lists growing like crazy, nursing staff being sacked and beds being closed.

I am still Angry and could not care less what is going on in other States, what I do know is that Queenslanders are hurting because of cuts in the health system, I make no apologies for my opinion, by the same token good luck for interstate people if they are getting great service.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ozzie Bill. on May 26, 2013, 09:00:12 AM
Dave, you are right and fair comment. I sincerely hope that your health issues, and those of you wife, can be overcome and life can get back to some normalcy. Cheers and all the best, Bill.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on May 27, 2013, 12:02:31 PM
Started layering plasticard and have just run out of Liquid Poly glue. Not the best thing to happen on a bank holiday. :veryangry:
Nearest model shop open will be Gaugemaster and NOT driving down there with all the other drivers  out for the day.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 27, 2013, 03:16:31 PM
Why do dog lovers chuck their pets out in the rain and then leave them out there barking for hours? It wouldn't be so bad, but once one starts it seems the whole area turns into Battersea Dogs Home :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on May 27, 2013, 03:19:19 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on May 27, 2013, 03:16:31 PM
Why do dog lovers chuck their pets out in the rain and then leave them out there barking for hours? It wouldn't be so bad, but once one starts it seems the whole area turns into Battersea Dogs Home :veryangry:

Give the Environmental Health Department a ring tomorrow  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on May 27, 2013, 04:20:27 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on May 27, 2013, 03:16:31 PM
Why do dog lovers chuck their pets out in the rain and then leave them out there barking for hours? It wouldn't be so bad, but once one starts it seems the whole area turns into Battersea Dogs Home :veryangry:

Not here, our dogs hate going out in the rain. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on May 27, 2013, 04:34:01 PM
Not here either, we haven't got a dog.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on May 27, 2013, 04:38:00 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on May 27, 2013, 04:34:01 PM
Not here either, we haven't got a dog.

Mick knows where there are some going spare :)

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on May 27, 2013, 04:40:55 PM
Quote from: daveg on May 27, 2013, 04:38:00 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on May 27, 2013, 04:34:01 PM
Not here either, we haven't got a dog.

Mick knows where there are some going spare :)

Dave G

:laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on May 27, 2013, 04:43:01 PM
We've got 2 cats though which is quite lucky as I was able to ask 1 earlier to catch a mouse which was hiding behind the cupboard. It would have been a lot harder to catch if we didn't have a cat. Or 2.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Paul B on May 27, 2013, 06:09:51 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on May 27, 2013, 04:43:01 PM
We've got 2 cats though which is quite lucky as I was able to ask 1 earlier to catch a mouse which was hiding behind the cupboard. It would have been a lot harder to catch if we didn't have a cat. Or 2.

Not too sure about that - where I used to live I had two cats, and one of them used to like bringing in mice still alive (presume it was to show me how clever he was?) but of course, if I didn't hear him trying to meow through a mouthful of mouse, he would lose interest and just let them go in the kitchen...  :o Trying to take the cooker apart at midnight because a mouse has got inside it is no fun!  :worried: At least the other cat I had liked catching them and killing them - and didn't mind being put outside with them to 'dispose' of them however he wanted!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 27, 2013, 07:26:29 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on May 27, 2013, 03:16:31 PM
Why do dog lovers chuck their pets out in the rain and then leave them out there barking for hours? It wouldn't be so bad, but once one starts it seems the whole area turns into Battersea Dogs Home :veryangry:

dog lovers don't, they walk them rain or shine.

it's the idle sods who just chuck them out, like the ones who don't clean up after them, or the weird ones we have around here who bag, then leave the bags all over the fields and paths, presumably for the dog-poo fairy to collect  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on May 27, 2013, 08:44:52 PM
Quote from: class37025 on May 27, 2013, 07:26:29 PM


it's the idle sods who just chuck them out, like the ones who don't clean up after them, or the weird ones we have around here who bag, then leave the bags all over the fields and paths, presumably for the dog-poo fairy to collect

Same round where I live. They go to the trouble of picking it up and bagging it but then just throw it in the hedge! Being a postie though I've seen worse. Its those people who take it home and leave it by their front door. At a couple of addresses there must be 2 or 3 weeks worth piling up. Lovely now it's getting warm.
Gareth
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on May 27, 2013, 09:46:08 PM
I had some new turf laid last year and during the early part of this year some ar***ole let their dog roam free to crap a big pile on it.I removed it as soon as I saw it but I now have a dead patch about the size of a tennis ball.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on May 27, 2013, 10:59:01 PM
All I can say is that the dogs around where I live must have good hearing, 'cos every time the ones near NPN start up, so do ours!  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on May 28, 2013, 11:20:52 AM
Quote from: Bikeracer on May 27, 2013, 09:46:08 PM
I had some new turf laid last year and during the early part of this year some ar***ole let their dog roam free to crap a big pile on it.I removed it as soon as I saw it but I now have a dead patch about the size of a tennis ball.
A female dog (changed by forum) ... literally  ;)  There's something in their pee that turns the grass brown ...  You probably had a double-dose off her !

The solution - cut the patch out & re-seed or re-turf that section (as it's small, I'd re-seed mixed with compost).  Oh, & get a fence  :P

Mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Christina on May 28, 2013, 11:40:00 AM
Ugh, waiting for items that tracking info says has left the office and is on it's way to me, but the royal mail van has just been past :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on May 28, 2013, 12:18:23 PM
I have a simple solution to lawn problems. I especially hate mowing grass (here in Oz it comes up as quick as weeds, no matter how much dogs pee on it).

Easy.

Pour a couple of bottles of Victoria Bitter all over it (you folk could substitute Newcastle Brown Ale).....

and.... IT COMES UP HALF CUT!!!!!  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on May 28, 2013, 12:27:56 PM
Quote from: Bealman on May 28, 2013, 12:18:23 PM
Pour a couple of bottles of Victoria Bitter all over it (you folk could substitute Newcastle Brown Ale).....
Dog isn't Dog anymore ... not even brewed in Newcastle ...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on May 28, 2013, 12:36:06 PM
Yes, so I understand.  :'( But, as me old Dad used to say, there's no such thing as bad beer.... well, he got that wrong. If he was alive today, I could assure him that there is.....  :D actually, several.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lionwing on May 28, 2013, 05:20:13 PM
Beer / Lager with added fruit / chocolate flavours...

Leave it alone...there is a good reason it has been brewed for centuries and no one added fruit or anything else...'coz it's is pretty much the perfect refreshment!

You want fruit...drink cider!

:thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on May 28, 2013, 07:27:46 PM
But you make fruit beer out of the stuff that would otherwise be undrinkably bad, that was the idea anyway.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lionwing on May 28, 2013, 07:49:29 PM
Not one of their better ideas I'd suggest!   :hmmm:

...and another thing...the contestants on The Apprentice....they need  :help:

:beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on May 28, 2013, 10:51:26 PM
I have an old book on home brewing with a recipe for nettle ale if anyone's interested...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: moogle on May 28, 2013, 10:55:35 PM
Quote from: Bealman on May 28, 2013, 10:51:26 PM
I have an old book on home brewing with a recipe for nettle ale if anyone's interested...

Would that be stinging nettle ale? I've heard it has quite a bite to it!  :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on May 28, 2013, 11:08:23 PM
Actually it was... I might go and see if I can dig that book out, later. Mind you, I bet it would taste just like you'd expect - nettles. It's funny, I tried kangaroo meat in a restaurant once, and though I'd never had it before, it tasted just like I imagined a kangaroo would.... kangaroo.

Reading that back, it doesn't make a lot of sense, but I've never had it again, put it that way.  :bounce: Skippy, Skippy....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: moogle on May 28, 2013, 11:14:31 PM
I know what you mean. I made some wine once from apple juice, the not from concentrate type.
And it tasted like....


....apple juice. Just rather alcoholic apple juice!  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on May 28, 2013, 11:59:35 PM
Reminds me of me 21st which I spent at a campsite near Cheddar Gorge. Spent the night drinking what I believe were called 'Jackboots' which were a mixture of Guinness and Scrumpy cider. Boy did that lift me lid off. I think I ended up sitting on top of a Belisha beacon!  :sick2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on May 29, 2013, 12:01:59 AM
Quote from: Bealman on May 28, 2013, 11:59:35 PM
Reminds me of me 21st which I spent at a campsite near Cheddar Gorge. Spent the night drinking what I believe were called 'Jackboots' which were a mixture of Guinness and Scrumpy cider. Boy did that lift me lid off. I think I ended up sitting on top of a Belisha beacon!  :sick2:

I think that is also called Black Velvet  :pint: :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on May 29, 2013, 12:06:58 AM
Nothing velvety about the stuff I was drinkin' that night. The Scrumpy had great lumps of apple in it!  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on May 29, 2013, 07:04:14 AM
Looks like this thread is brewing into the Happy version!

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: surfaceman on May 29, 2013, 10:02:26 AM
Quote from: scotsoft on May 29, 2013, 12:01:59 AM
Quote from: Bealman on May 28, 2013, 11:59:35 PM
Reminds me of me 21st which I spent at a campsite near Cheddar Gorge. Spent the night drinking what I believe were called 'Jackboots' which were a mixture of Guinness and Scrumpy cider. Boy did that lift me lid off. I think I ended up sitting on top of a Belisha beacon!  :sick2:

I think that is also called Black Velvet  :pint: :beers:

Real "black velvet" is a mix of stout & champagne ... apparantly it was the favourite tipple of Chancellor Bismarck!

Alex
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on May 29, 2013, 11:47:38 AM
Guinness and lime - possibly the most foul drink on the planet. It exists solely to fool people into trying it 8)

Guiness and soda is funny too if the bar staff are not on their toes. The bubbles are generated faster than they can leave the guinness so if you just pour badness happens  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Greybeema on May 29, 2013, 12:50:48 PM
If you are ever in Dublin - you should of course visit the Guiness Store House in St James Gate.  It is Guinness' brewery.  After the walk around the interactive - his is the history, this is now we make it, tour you get to go to the top of the hop store and sample the goods. 

If you are a Guinness connoisseur - you will love your pint (better than the Guinness you get in ol' Blighty) but the real entertainment is watching our "cousins from across the pond" takinf their first sip and hating it (the faces they pull are the entertainment)...  Unfortunately they then lash Blackcurrent juice in it to sweaten it (The second face they pull is almost as entertaining as the first).... 

So there are loads on pints left on the bar with a pink kiss in the middle of the head and two sips missing.  What a waste...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 29, 2013, 12:59:41 PM
Guinness in England has never been as good as the 'Mothers Milk' in the Republic IMHO but I hate the way they chill it down like lager. Last time I was in Ireland I'd ask for a bottle from the shelf to be poured into the glass first before topping it up with the chilled rubbish. In Dingle I have even had microwaved Guinness from an understanding landlord :D

When can we get back to being angry? >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: H on May 29, 2013, 01:30:11 PM
Quote from: Greybeema on May 29, 2013, 12:50:48 PM

If you are a Guinness connoisseur - you will love your pint (better than the Guinness you get in ol' Blighty)


Not so. It's all the same - all brewed in Dublin now since they closed the Park Royal (London) brewery some years back. And even when it was brewed here they was no discernable difference - a keg of Park Royal brew was serviced in Temple bar (Dublin) and a keg of Dublin brew was served in Kilburn, but the regulars in both could not tell the difference.

H.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on May 29, 2013, 01:40:49 PM
The only similarity here to the Guinness in Dublin is that it's a similar colour.
The stuff served here is like coloured water and as for serving any cooled ale or stout, it was probably initiated by someone lacking a few taste buds because cooling beer ruins the taste IMHO.

Some years ago I had an uncle who kept a pub and he had just one small single flame gas burner in the cellar,it was to keep the beer at the right temperature.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Greybeema on May 29, 2013, 01:57:22 PM
I think it is actually down to the way its poured and how it is kept.  Also there tends to be a bigger turnover here.

Getting back to the angry:- 

Why is it Bar staff in the UK tend to be casual staff and cannot remeber an order for 10 drinks?   :veryangry:

Good bar staff here are seen as an asset and are coverted by other bars...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: H on May 29, 2013, 02:00:08 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on May 29, 2013, 01:40:49 PM

The only similarity here to the Guinness in Dublin is that it's a similar colour.


Nope - it's all the same now. Since 2005 all Guinness in the UK is brewed at St James Gate, Dublin. It's been a brewery conditioned (keg) beer for some time to ensure consistency but means that it is pasteurised, filtered and artificially pressurised (with a two part gas system) making it sterile and dead - even in Ireland. The bottled Guinness, which used to be bottle conditioned and stronger in the Winter, is now also brewery conditioned and a shaddow of it's former self.

H.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: H on May 29, 2013, 02:27:48 PM
Quote from: Greybeema on May 29, 2013, 01:57:22 PM

I think it is actually down to the way its poured and how it is kept. 


Yep, bad cellarmanship, dirty pipes, poor hygene, incorrect temperatures, etc., can all ruin beer in pubs - and that's all beers, not just Guinness.

Keg (brewery conditioned container beer) was introduced as many pubs were incapable of correctly looking after 'live' cask beer. Fortunately, in general, things have changed and the march of keg stemmed, although Guinness remains keg. A lot is said about Guinness but most is the result of Irish balarney, historic myths and clever marketing. My goodness, it's good for you, y'know.  :D

H.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: AndyGif on May 29, 2013, 03:09:44 PM
keeping it on a Guinness theme, any one done lion and unicorn in N I wonder?  Suprised they didn't have the roof's painted white......
http://www.cholsey-wallingford-railway.com/Stocklist.html (http://www.cholsey-wallingford-railway.com/Stocklist.html)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EddieA on May 29, 2013, 06:27:33 PM
Quote from: Bealman on May 28, 2013, 10:51:26 PM
I have an old book on home brewing with a recipe for nettle ale if anyone's interested...

Not exactly home brewing (although some might disagree!). I do have a recipe for Brussell Sprout soup... :D

Actually quite good if you like the veg, honest!   
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: H on May 29, 2013, 08:30:31 PM
Quote from: EddieA on May 29, 2013, 06:27:33 PM

I do have a recipe for Brussell Sprout soup...


It's not Christmas yet, is it?  ;D

H.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on May 29, 2013, 08:43:13 PM
Put the sprouts on a low gas on 31st March. You don't want half-cooked stuff served up for Christmas lunch, now do you?  :sick2:

Apologies - Angry post to follow.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on May 29, 2013, 08:43:28 PM
Quote from: H on May 29, 2013, 08:30:31 PM
Quote from: EddieA on May 29, 2013, 06:27:33 PM

I do have a recipe for Brussell Sprout soup...


It's not Christmas yet, is it?  ;D

H.

Now I'm getting Angry (this is the Angry thread right?) - Some one mentioned that C word the wrong side of the D month :telloff:  >:(

I need a Guiness, or two, to calm me down.  :pint: :pint:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on May 29, 2013, 09:04:42 PM
After a fall in January this year, my 93 year old dad was moved from his retirement home via hospital to a nursing establishment.

His state benefits had to change as he’d moved from having a personal carer to a place of 24/7 care. The social work team at the hospital were involved right away and ‘things’ were put in place to adjust or amend his benefits and we were assured there would be nothing to worry about.

Sadly, the old chap died in March. It is now 29 May and neither myself as executor nor the nursing home have received notification of what benefit(s) he would have received. I don’t think the home has received any payments for his brief stay with them.

Trying to chase things up, I’ve been told there is a Complaints Team waiting to receive my letter of complaint. If that is handled in the same manner as my dad’s benefits I may have to ask my executor to reply on the family’s behalf!

Rant over.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on May 29, 2013, 09:15:41 PM
 :veryangry: :veryangry: 209 days to go H, think about it when 9 days to go.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: H on May 29, 2013, 09:27:32 PM
Quote from: Oldman on May 29, 2013, 09:15:41 PM

209 days to go H,


Is that all? It's already too late to get the sprouts on.  :D

H.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on May 30, 2013, 12:18:02 AM
As Daveg says, this was in danger of becoming the happy thread with all this talk about Guinness. I feel kinda responsible as I started going on about it. But I just want to say this before I shut up about it: Greybeema - I have had the privilege - indeed - honour of visiting St James Gate in Dublin and have been to the Gravity Bar on the 7th floor. 360 degree view of Dublin, and people of all ages and nationalities ALL WITH A GLASS OF GUINNESS IN THEIR HAND!!! I thought I must have died and gone to heaven! I certainly left in a dream-like condition in the late afternoon....

Now.... back to anger management. I've just returned home from dropping wifey off at work, and Geez there are some pratts on the New South Wales roads....  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: AndyGif on May 30, 2013, 08:12:49 AM
Quote from: H on May 29, 2013, 09:27:32 PM
Quote from: Oldman on May 29, 2013, 09:15:41 PM

209 days to go H,


Is that all? It's already too late to get the sprouts on.  :D

H.
and start defrosting the  t-rex(turkey)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lionwing on May 30, 2013, 08:14:06 AM
Christmas...pah...I'm truly appreciative that my better half takes care of organising the whole thing but there is no need to be telling everyone how many weeks or days it is...argh...!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on May 30, 2013, 08:21:05 AM
Well I'm looking forward to it if no-one else is :)

In fact, I've already started my christmas shopping :D


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lionwing on May 30, 2013, 08:55:39 AM
Odd fact...

The Happy Thread has half as many posts as The Angry Thread..

:confused2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: AndyGif on May 30, 2013, 09:25:24 AM
hey what can I say, vast majority of us on the forum are british,  we love to moan..... (the weather, econonmy, politics......)
And say nothing when we're happy incase someone moans about..... :confused2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: H on May 30, 2013, 10:00:37 AM
Quote from: AndyGif on May 30, 2013, 09:25:24 AM

hey what can I say, vast majority of us on the forum are british,  we love to moan..... (the weather, econonmy, politics......) And say nothing when we're happy incase someone moans about.....


and most people aren't happy unless they've got something to moan about.  :D

But oddy enough apparently we are now the 10th most happy nation.

H.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EddieA on May 30, 2013, 06:14:23 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on May 30, 2013, 08:21:05 AM
Well I'm looking forward to it if no-one else is :)

In fact, I've already started my christmas shopping :D


Paul

Oh dear. I never thought that the simple mention of the humble brussell sprout would cause such a reaction  :dunce:

   
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 30, 2013, 07:40:05 PM
Quote from: EddieA on May 30, 2013, 06:14:23 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on May 30, 2013, 08:21:05 AM
Well I'm looking forward to it if no-one else is :)

In fact, I've already started my christmas shopping :D


Paul

Oh dear. I never thought that the simple mention of the humble brussell sprout would cause such a reaction  :dunce:


Brussel sprouts always cause a reaction :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on May 30, 2013, 09:59:38 PM
Any brassica in fact! :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on May 30, 2013, 10:00:57 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on May 30, 2013, 07:40:05 PM
Quote from: EddieA on May 30, 2013, 06:14:23 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on May 30, 2013, 08:21:05 AM
Well I'm looking forward to it if no-one else is :)

In fact, I've already started my christmas shopping :D


Paul

Oh dear. I never thought that the simple mention of the humble brussell sprout would cause such a reaction  :dunce:


Brussel sprouts always cause a reaction :-[

:moony: :toot:


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on May 31, 2013, 01:56:31 AM
Quote from: Sprintex on May 30, 2013, 08:21:05 AM
Well I'm looking forward to it if no-one else is :)

In fact, I've already started my christmas shopping :D


Paul

I finished mine 3 years ago when I got married. How does the saying go? You don't have a dog and bark yourself  :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 31, 2013, 02:08:15 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on May 31, 2013, 01:56:31 AM
Quote from: Sprintex on May 30, 2013, 08:21:05 AM
Well I'm looking forward to it if no-one else is :)

In fact, I've already started my christmas shopping :D


Paul

I finished mine 3 years ago when I got married. How does the saying go? You don't have a dog and bark yourself  :P

might be a good idea to get the biscuits ready before she reads that  :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on May 31, 2013, 03:00:23 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on May 31, 2013, 01:56:31 AM
Quote from: Sprintex on May 30, 2013, 08:21:05 AM
Well I'm looking forward to it if no-one else is :)

In fact, I've already started my christmas shopping :D


Paul

I finished mine 3 years ago when I got married. How does the saying go? You don't have a dog and bark yourself  :P

:no:

We shop separately for our own families, plus I love it anyway :D


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on June 02, 2013, 06:48:20 PM
I was out in the garden last night and I noticed that some of the brick wall of the house was green.  After inspecting inside the house today it seems that the 'new' bath tap had been leaking for about six months, dripping onto the waste pipe and travelling into the cavity wall where it's been soaking into the brickwork. :(  The cement is as soft as a bag of sugar - about 1 metre wide by three metres. ::)

I tried calling the plumber who fitted it but it went straight to answerphone, so he must be on holiday or out for the day.  So, I fixed the leak myself.  Then I discovered that the bath waste was dripping. :'(  I started to lightly tighten the screw, and the cheap plastic bracket broke. :thumbsdown:  No baths and showers for us tonight, and a trip to B&Q tomorrow.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on June 02, 2013, 06:57:04 PM
If I dare mention there is a bright side to your leaks  :help:, once you get them stopped at least we are having warmer weather so hopefully it will dry out quickly  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NeMo on June 02, 2013, 07:00:29 PM
You have my sympathies! A few weeks back -- when we had rather a cold snap -- the power went out, and it was almost a day and a half before things were working again. No electricity meant no heating save the coal fireplace, and showers were limited to horrible cold things I never want to repeat again!!!

Even further back, last year in fact, a minor tweak to my central heating (the fitting of thermostatic valves to half a dozen radiators) ended up with me entire central heating system being worked upon across ten days, albeit not consecutive days. Rewiring, fixes to the overflow tank, boiler pumps and circuit boards. In the end cost a bit over £800. Money well spent to be fair -- my central heating had not been working properly for years, and my DIY skills with pumps and wiring is adequate to get things working again, but not exactly textbook safe!

Cheers, NeMo
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on June 02, 2013, 07:11:03 PM
Today, I decided that the weather was too nice to be outside, so decided to fit the new toilet seat (the old one had cracked and bit my thigh!). Old one came off, no problem, and new one fitted easily, but could not tighten the plastic nuts by hand, so had to use a small adjustable bike spanner. Did the job, laying on my back with my arm on the floor and hand up the back of the loo. Stood up, and SWMBO asked my how I had got myself so filthy. Looked at my arm and covered in slimy brown stuff. Yes, the thick rubber pipe from loo to outside pipe had split at one end, and was leaking onto the floor - nasty. Temp, possibly permanent, repair with gaffer tape.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on June 02, 2013, 08:44:09 PM
Quote from: Kipper on June 02, 2013, 07:11:03 PM
Yes, the thick rubber pipe from loo to outside pipe had split at one end, and was leaking onto the floor - nasty. Temp, possibly permanent, repair with gaffer tape.

Oh no, not nice at all!!!

Quote from: NeMo on June 02, 2013, 07:00:29 PM
You have my sympathies!

Many thanks!  It could have been worse I suppose.  Glad to hear that you god yourself sorted out....although ten days must have been a nightmare.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on June 02, 2013, 11:10:59 PM
Well I guess it was only water, and with your warm weather coming on it should dry out reasonably quickly.

When I say it was only water, I'm referring to a problem with wall cavities we've had here (only twice in 32 years, thankfully). We live right next to a creek, and managed to get a rat up in the roofspace which has fallen down into the wall cavity and carked it there. You can imagine the stink, but there's nothing to be done until it eventually rots away completely.....  :sick2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Chetcombe on June 03, 2013, 02:17:35 AM
Quote from: Bealman on June 02, 2013, 11:10:59 PM
Well I guess it was only water, and with your warm weather coming on it should dry out reasonably quickly.

When I say it was only water, I'm referring to a problem with wall cavities we've had here (only twice in 32 years, thankfully). We live right next to a creek, and managed to get a rat up in the roofspace which has fallen down into the wall cavity and carked it there. You can imagine the stink, but there's nothing to be done until it eventually rots away completely.....  :sick2:

Ouch :( I think your Aussie experience with beasties and critters beats what we get on the US East Coast. Squirrels, groundhogs, skunks, raccoons, possums we can cope with... Rats we only get in the city thank god, but they do seem to be everywhere. Was walking past the Four Seasons Hotel in Philly last week at dusk and there were more rats than guests in their BMWs and Mercedes :laugh3:

Mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on June 03, 2013, 02:40:01 AM
Yukko! I must admit we've never seen a rat around here in all the time we've lived here, but we did hear them up there those couple of times and definitely smelt 'em!

On a happier note, I see you've posted your vids. I've just got to pop out but I'll have a squizz at them when I get back.  :thumbsup:

Sounds like the rats in Philly are pretty well-heeled. ;D

George
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Chetcombe on June 03, 2013, 02:48:00 AM
Quote from: Bealman on June 03, 2013, 02:40:01 AM

Sounds like the rats in Philly are pretty well-heeled. ;D

George

Well some of them eat well at least :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on June 03, 2013, 03:01:56 AM
 :laughabovepost:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on June 03, 2013, 01:48:54 PM
Quote from: Kipper on June 02, 2013, 07:11:03 PM
Yes, the thick rubber pipe from loo to outside pipe had split at one end, and was leaking onto the floor - nasty. Temp, possibly permanent, repair with gaffer tape.
Mmmmm, nice  :laughabovepost:

Were I you - I'd check the various diameters (exit of loo, pipe hole in wall etc) & high-tail it down to a supplier for a flexi waste pipe; I had to replace the upstairs loo last year & used one of these to form a 90 degree pipe (couldn't find a suitable one for love not money  :confused1:) & it's worked a treat !  Flexi is great, as you can adjust the pipe and not the loo etc (especially handy when the loo is fixed down !)

Mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on June 03, 2013, 01:54:03 PM
Spent the past 2 week-ends sorting out the external kitchen door opening ... :'(

Side panel last week-end (deep joy  :hmmm:) and the actual door this week-end (even deeper  :doh:).  Previous owners seem to have mucked up making this, and we're having to fix it all now  :thumbsdown:

On the plus side - will be undercoated by close tonight, and should be finished with a nice new paint colour late this week  :thumbsup:.  I tried to go for LNER Blue, but when I worked out the price for 2 litres from Precision Paints ...  :goggleeyes:  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on June 03, 2013, 10:12:22 PM
Spoke too soon ... "Don't you think you could do those horrible side panels the same as the others you've done nicely ?" floated the words ...

So - now the door panel is too large (1 coat of undercoat  :o damn door !) so I have to fiddle more tomorrow to get it fitting better than tonight's bodge just to get it in & closed up, and there's a pair of side panels that need proper fitting too ... let alone undercoating (they get that in situ  :P)

More expense, as I have to get 2 more lengths of beading for these  :doh:

Mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on June 03, 2013, 10:27:41 PM
Sounds like you're having tons of fun.

When is a door not a door?

When it's ajar.........  :whistle:

I'll go quietly.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on June 04, 2013, 02:06:54 PM
Royal B****y Mail  >:(

posted some documents off 1st class recorded on 27th may, receipt says next day delivery, but not too pushed, the following day will do..........

checked Saturday on tracking site and 'still in our system'

e-mailed their "customer services" but as of five minutes ago still no reply.

checked the tracking again this lunchtime, and still in their "system"  :veryangry:

phoned their customer service number, 08457 of course so I pay to complain about their lousy service, loads of menus to 'enable us to connect you to the right customer assistant' who then tells me that it's not missing till is 15 days adrift, and no I can't claim compensation. :veryangry:

obviously RM don't run the customer care courses I had to attend as an AA patrol .. 'own the problem'....'don't say what you can't do, say what you can and will do'

no, just absolute apathy !

lost my rag totally and suggested they start a new service "maybe delivered sometime or maybe not, we don't give a s***, and charge £50 for the privalage of getting your post lost, and change to a premium rate number for complaints so they get even more profit from their lousy  service   :veryangry: :veryangry:

slammed the phone down before I started swearing, then realised that they will probably take up my suggestion. :dunce:

so, in advance, appologies for the new RM service soon to be introduced  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lionwing on June 04, 2013, 03:14:47 PM
Royal Mail suck...there are far too many examples of your problem that they really don't give a monkey's about!

They know how to charge as well!

I'ill do my best to avoid sending any parcels by them and always look at other courier services!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on June 04, 2013, 09:04:48 PM
1st Recorded is "aim to deliver next working day including Saturday"

Special delivery is "guaranteed" (and you can then claim compensation) plus the system knows where it is sort of. Recorded it's simply 'in the system' (and frequently it's not even marked as delivered when it has been - which is itself a serious ebay fraud problem)

Alan

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on June 11, 2013, 10:27:19 AM
Annoyed with self. My latest purchase from Shapeways arrived this morning and I had ordered the item in the wrong scale  Ho m instead of Nm. Dohnew brain time. Loverly model but way too big.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on June 16, 2013, 08:31:21 PM
One of my regular (non-rail) forums has gone off line, with no warning and no access to any of the moderators. The only message on screen asks if the domain name is mine (that is, whoever is looking in). Will now have to search similar forums, to see if anyone who is on both knows anything.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on June 20, 2013, 11:37:46 AM
 :veryangry:  Back on the pills again.
Another bout of Bronchitis -am getting fed up with this.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on June 20, 2013, 11:41:54 AM
Quote from: Kipper on June 16, 2013, 08:31:21 PM
One of my regular (non-rail) forums has gone off line, with no warning and no access to any of the moderators. The only message on screen asks if the domain name is mine (that is, whoever is looking in). Will now have to search similar forums, to see if anyone who is on both knows anything.

That sounds like they haven't paid their host, or are having difficulties.

Quote from: Oldman on June 20, 2013, 11:37:46 AM
:veryangry:  Back on the pills again.
Another bout of Bronchitis -am getting fed up with this.

Sorry to hear that Oldman.  :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 20, 2013, 02:06:28 PM
Quote from: Oldman on June 20, 2013, 11:37:46 AM
:veryangry:  Back on the pills again.
Another bout of Bronchitis -am getting fed up with this.

Hope you're on the mend soon :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on June 20, 2013, 02:55:11 PM
Cheers guys, off to East Surrey hospital tomorrow.
Morgage may be  needed for the car park :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on June 20, 2013, 03:06:16 PM
Quote from: Oldman on June 20, 2013, 02:55:11 PM
Cheers guys, off to East Surrey hospital tomorrow.
Morgage may be  needed for the car park :veryangry:

Its a real disgrace that England hasn't caught up with the more forward thinking bits of the country and made hospital parking and prescriptions free.

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on June 20, 2013, 03:17:04 PM
With you "Old Man"..  Seveereal years back Mrs "H" was rushed to hospital in London for major emergency  surgery, the last thing I needed was how much cash I had to PRE-PAY a HOSPITAL car park meter at night!!!.
Luckily the 50p I had was worth it as she did survive....... :bounce:

The first bit is TRUE!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 20, 2013, 04:57:28 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on June 20, 2013, 03:17:04 PM

Luckily the 50p I had was worth it as she did survive....... :bounce:


Another visit to A & E seems to be on the cards :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on June 20, 2013, 08:04:25 PM
The last time I had a rush job to hospital, the plumber working on our kitchen took me in, in my car, and just abandoned it in a service road. No problem, says he, as I always park here. Turned out he had a plumbing contract with the hospital, and just told them my car was his. So, from then until I changed the car last year, I have had free parking. Very naughty, but I have paid my contributions all my life.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on June 20, 2013, 08:07:22 PM
Had a trip out today, driving round Matlock. Got on the road from Matlock to Chesterfield, and for a few miles there were "10mph loose chippings" signs, every 100 yards or so - with no sign of any loose chippings, just a few patched areas. I think the signs would have cost more than the half a lorry load of tarmac laid. Needless to say, no-one kept to the 10mph, not even a couple of cop cars.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: petercharlesfagg on June 20, 2013, 08:27:31 PM
Quote from: Oldman on June 11, 2013, 10:27:19 AM
Annoyed with self. My latest purchase from Shapeways arrived this morning and I had ordered the item in the wrong scale  Ho m instead of Nm. Dohnew brain time. Loverly model but way too big.

I've done the same but ordered an "Orient Express" coach from Ebay Germany only to discover when the mail came through confirming the purchase that it is HO!!

I will have to try reselling it on Ebay here!

Regards, Peter.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Michael Shillabeer on June 23, 2013, 02:36:54 PM
Grrr, my Canon EF-S 17-85mm lens auto-focus has stopped working  :(

The 350D camera started giving error 99 a while back and I thought it was the memory card - its a compact flash and pin broke off a couple of years ago! Work around was to restart the camera.

It manual focus works, but there aren't any graticules in the viewfinder to aid focusing  >:(

My macro lens is ok, so N Gauge closeups are still fine! lol

The lens and camera are 8 years old and taken 1000s of photos, so I suppose it was inevitable it would break oneday :(

Michael
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on June 24, 2013, 08:29:20 PM
Just had an international "support call" for my computer ...  :phone:

... just as I was about to start winding them up - the buggers hung up on me   :jawdropping:

Ain't fair  :veryangry2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on June 24, 2013, 08:34:10 PM
 :laughabovepost:  Next time. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on June 24, 2013, 10:05:49 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on June 24, 2013, 08:29:20 PM
Just had an international "support call" for my computer ...  :phone:

... just as I was about to start winding them up - the buggers hung up on me   :jawdropping:

Ain't fair  :veryangry2:

Had the same last week, when I said I was recording the call they disappeared, didn't think "Microsoft" were like that.  lol.   :-X

Caz
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on June 24, 2013, 10:49:46 PM
Sat down to browse my favourite forum when work rang me and asked me to go in!  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on June 25, 2013, 02:05:24 AM
Quote from: Bealman on June 24, 2013, 10:49:46 PM
Sat down to browse my favourite forum when work rang me and asked me to go in!  >:(

Never mind, just think of the overtime money. Kerchingggg ;-)

Regards

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on June 25, 2013, 02:08:10 AM
Yep... help pay for me NGF wagon!  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: StufromEGDL on June 25, 2013, 10:09:08 AM
Hi Gang;

What's 'overtime'??? ???

Later;
STU from EGDL
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on June 25, 2013, 10:55:18 AM
I really hate it when you are on a roll building the layout and then you have to take time out to let the glue etc dry.
Almost as bad as homebrewing. You can see the product but can't drink it yet.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on June 25, 2013, 11:10:23 AM
 :laughabovepost: ;D ;D Like it!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Michael Shillabeer on June 25, 2013, 11:31:08 AM
Quote from: Oldman on June 25, 2013, 10:55:18 AM
I really hate it when you are on a roll building the layout and then you have to take time out to let the glue etc dry.
Almost as bad as homebrewing. You can see the product but can't drink it yet.
Building kits during short lunch breaks at work forces you to wait for glue to dry! The upside is that I haven't knocked anything off while impatiently adding another component before the glue has dried! lol

Confession: I'm building 1:35 scale tanks at work!

Michael
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: StufromEGDL on June 25, 2013, 12:15:52 PM
Hi Gang;

The 1:1 scale model of the C130J Hercules wasn't finished in time this morning, so I have spent the day marooned in front of the PC instead of enjoying the good weather flying.... :veryangry:

Later;
STU from EGDL
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on June 25, 2013, 12:20:13 PM

.... Confession: I'm building 1:35 scale tanks at work!

Michael
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We have a full size Tank here at the NGF! :wave:

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Michael Shillabeer on June 25, 2013, 01:36:14 PM
Quote from: StufromEGDL on June 25, 2013, 12:15:52 PM
Hi Gang;

The 1:1 scale model of the C130J Hercules wasn't finished in time this morning, so I have spent the day marooned in front of the PC instead of enjoying the good weather flying.... :veryangry:

Later;
STU from EGDL
This reminds me of when a Hercules got stuck outside of the Tesco in Lyneham!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelshillabeer/sets/72157625698097215/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelshillabeer/sets/72157625698097215/)
Interesting scenario for a layout?
Michael
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on June 26, 2013, 10:52:50 AM
FedEx just delivered my Maplins order for their version of a Dremel, bought on line.

It was packed in a blue shipping back and rattled! Opening the bag, the gizmo's plastic case was cracked with all the contents spilled out. Not surprised really. The whole thing was wrapped in a single skin of bubble wrap.

Caught the driver who has taken it away 'Refused - Damaged'

Now to call Maplins and nag!  :veryangry:

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lionwing on June 26, 2013, 01:36:28 PM
Wednesday's...

Rubbish day, right in the middle of the week and achieves nothing!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on June 26, 2013, 01:46:33 PM
Re daveg's tale thought Maplins would have done better, have only
bought from their stores not by post.

Reminds me of buying a glass camera filter on fleabay which arrived
in an ordinary small envelope inside one of those small polythene bags.
On opening a pile of glass fell out. Got a refund after some hassle,
seller barred me from further bids.(London camera shop)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on July 05, 2013, 10:21:51 AM
Not a good day, started with a bad asthma attack due to a certain "Monkey" going overboard with her deodorant, dropped my car keys down the drain outside - now waiting for the remote control keyfob to dry out.
Smoke alarm in the house beeping like mad because the battery is flat. Can't find the  new one. :veryangry: :veryangry:
Hopefully that is it for now  they say things happen in threes,  don't need a fourth   problem.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on July 05, 2013, 11:07:55 AM
Decided to install Photoshop Elements yesterday on Widows 7 and Mac OS X.
Why oh why is it never straight forward to install anything on Windows like it is on the Mac.

Ended up having to start windows in safe mode to uninstall a program that was supposed to be being used by another program..huh! There was nothing running only the installer.About half an hour later I finally got it installed.

Put the disc in the Mac partition,it installed straight away...no problems.

I'm really glad the Windows partition isn't connected to the internet.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 05, 2013, 07:10:02 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on July 05, 2013, 11:07:55 AM
Decided to install Photoshop Elements yesterday on Widows 7 and Mac OS X.


Erm.... that's a scary thought for an operating system :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on July 06, 2013, 12:27:14 AM
It's the latest offering from Munstersoft  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 06, 2013, 06:02:28 PM
Quote from: Bealman on July 06, 2013, 12:27:14 AM
It's the latest offering from Munstersoft  :D
Admission time - I don't half fancy Morticia :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davieb on July 06, 2013, 06:46:38 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 06, 2013, 06:02:28 PM
Quote from: Bealman on July 06, 2013, 12:27:14 AM
It's the latest offering from Munstersoft  :D
Admission time - I don't half fancy Morticia :-[

I will have a word with one of our customers in the shop  :hmmm:

She Is the spitting image of Morticia  >:D

I will ask if she is single if you would like me to  ;)

dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on July 06, 2013, 07:45:21 PM
Quote from: davieb on July 06, 2013, 06:46:38 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 06, 2013, 06:02:28 PM
Quote from: Bealman on July 06, 2013, 12:27:14 AM
It's the latest offering from Munstersoft  :D
Admission time - I don't half fancy Morticia :-[

She Is the spitting image of Morticia  >:D
dave  :thumbsup:

Does that mean you have to operate her by shoving your hands up her  :-X  :-X  :-X  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: loco4401 on July 07, 2013, 10:59:51 AM
Nothing worse when you swap shifts with a work mate and tell the wife after you have done it for her to blow a gasket because you didnt check with her first
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on July 07, 2013, 03:30:02 PM
S*** Law,went to stick my backscene on and got halfway through the first sheet and my can of spray glue ran out. Too late to get in the car and get to a shop to get any more today. :veryangry:
Note to self get 2 next time so I have a spare,and get another when the first can runs out.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on July 10, 2013, 08:46:30 PM
Found out by text message that the landlord has put our house on the market, after telling us only a year or two ago that we were safe to stay here as long as we wanted. All the hassle of trying to find another decent house and moving all our stuff again.  :(

Anyone fancy a buy-to-rent opportunity?? ::)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 10, 2013, 08:51:17 PM
Jeepers, Paul :o
He sounds like a right pheasant you-know-what.
Don't suppose you have his previous statement in writing?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on July 10, 2013, 09:14:38 PM
Nope, all verbal I'm afraid.


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on July 10, 2013, 11:14:25 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on July 10, 2013, 09:14:38 PM
Nope, all verbal I'm afraid.


Paul

Worth talking to citizens advice and similar. In a lot of cases the new buyer inherits a tenant and the tenancy rights continue. That means it's rather in your landlords interest to persuade the new buyer you are nice because whoever he sells to gets you as well. In addition the landlord has *zero* right to show people around the internals of the property while you are a tenant - so you can really make his life hell  :angel: by refusing, or by insisting on being there and telling people truthfully about all the faults !

There's another funny as well which is that if you are a long leasrholder you may also have a right of first refusal and the landlord can get into deep sh*t for not following he rules on this (it as so abused that someone decided to make not following it get landlords large potential fines and a good kicking). Basically its a sort of right to buy option.

Your landlord is supposed (and I suspect required) to serve you an S21 (unless its changed of late) which is *not* a notice to quit but a notice of proposed sale.  Basically in most cases the fact a property is being sold doesn't change the tenancies - the buyer is buying the property plus tenant plus all the contractual duties attached to that. If the landlord sells to someone looking for buy to let income then things just continue. This is quite normal - its common for properties to go for *more* because they have an existing long term tenant who is up to date on rent etc. It saves the buyer the hell of finding new tenants, then finding decent new tenants!

Good luck - hope you get a new decent landlord !

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on July 11, 2013, 12:36:51 AM
Geez, Paul that's a bit of a nasty kick. Why is nothing ever easy? Good luck and let us know how you get on

George
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on July 11, 2013, 07:59:31 AM
I'd moaned a couple of weeks back about Maplins poor packing that led to the refusal of their  attempt to send me one of their rotary tool kits.

The second attempt didn't even make it to my door, with apparently FedEx returning it to Maplins.

The third replacement arrived, packed in exactly the same useless state. The driver told me he'd returned the second one himself but he'd been instructed to attempt delivery with the third. I refused the delivery as damaged.

I emailed Maplins who didn't apologise at all but said they'd noted that I didn't now want the item and a refund would be made to my PayPal account on it's arrival at their depot. That was more than a week ago.

No refund. Chasing them again.

Not impressed.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Michael Shillabeer on July 11, 2013, 10:04:27 AM
Quote from: Sprintex on July 10, 2013, 08:46:30 PM
Found out by text message that the landlord has put our house on the market, after telling us only a year or two ago that we were safe to stay here as long as we wanted. All the hassle of trying to find another decent house and moving all our stuff again.  :(

Anyone fancy a buy-to-rent opportunity?? ::)


Paul

A couple of years ago, I found the house we were renting for sale on ebay!!!! Landlords didn't tell us! This was a couple of months before the end of the lease, so we found a new house and when offered a lease extension politely declined it. Landlords ended up with an empty property for 9 months with a large mortgage to pay on it lol :)

Landlords refused to return 50% of deposit. We went to independent arbitration and got 100% back :)

Michael
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on July 11, 2013, 11:38:56 AM
Deposits with landlords a real pain, in Scotland system being reformed and regulated,
not sure about England , Wales and NI. One of the biggest rogues was a well known
letting agency in London. They know who they are
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: loco4401 on July 12, 2013, 06:38:13 AM
Could always do a river cottage trick pack it all in and grow your own with a shed for your layout and may work out cheaper than renting in the city
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on July 12, 2013, 07:16:11 AM
Me? Do gardening?? I think I'd rather starve! :laugh:

Not near enough to London for their prices to affect me ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on July 12, 2013, 08:34:36 PM
Ordered some real wood furniture, from a proper shop, to be delivered from their HQ. Delivery date was only 10 days so well pleased - until it arrived. One shelf in the display cabinet was cracked on the grain (real wood!), but the main problem was the coffee table had been dropped and "karate chopped" on one side and dented. Contacted company who had to send man to look at it, which took 2 weeks. When he came he said it was beyond repair, and I should reject the table (he could get a new shelf). Today, after two phone calls, I will get the shelf next Wednesday, and the new table (and old one collected) some time soon. I could have gone to a local cheapo shop, got MDF and delivered next day at a fraction of the price!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on July 12, 2013, 09:58:05 PM
A sorry tale, in this country all too familiar. Time for consumer power!
Paid by credit card? How about a small debts claim for general hassle
and crap service. Spread the news about these chancers!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on July 12, 2013, 11:31:57 PM
Quote from: Kipper on July 12, 2013, 08:34:36 PM
Wednesday, and the new table (and old one collected) some time soon. I could have gone to a local cheapo shop, got MDF and delivered next day at a fraction of the price!

Had similar problems just before Christmas with a bunch called Variete.. stuff turned up trashed because it was not even properly packed. Then had a long dispute with them about returning it when they kept messing me about.

The day I explained I was going to file the small claims tomorrow morning they mysteriously managed to pick it up that evening (in fact they were so keen that having picked it up they sent someone to pick it up again the next day).

In my case it randomly turned out to be for the best, after telling them to come take it back (as given their packing I didn't expect any replacements to arrive in one piece either) I happened to wander down a local road past an antiques shop having a closing down sale and after a bit of haggling ended up with an older beautifully made piece for about the same price !

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Michael Shillabeer on July 13, 2013, 04:58:09 PM
At the beginning of June I had all the bushes on my car replaced...

Today it failed its MOT because a bolt holding the rear anti-roll bar to the car is missing  :veryangry:

Grrr, garages...

Michael
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: deltic 187a on July 14, 2013, 01:51:13 AM
That's pretty scary - and incompetent too !!!   :dunce:

I went to a well known tyre/exhaust chain once for an oil and filter change - never again, they managed to destroy the thread on the engine block where the filter screws on. The laughable thing was that the so called mechanic        ( and I use the term very loosely ) claimed it was like that when he started -  :no:.   What really puzzled me was how a pimply 16 year old could be qualified to do this sort of work ? :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EddieA on July 14, 2013, 05:27:46 PM
Quote from: deltic 187a on July 14, 2013, 01:51:13 AM
That's pretty scary - and incompetent too !!!   :dunce:

I went to a well known tyre/exhaust chain once for an oil and filter change - never again, they managed to destroy the thread on the engine block where the filter screws on. The laughable thing was that the so called mechanic        ( and I use the term very loosely ) claimed it was like that when he started -  :no:.   What really puzzled me was how a pimply 16 year old could be qualified to do this sort of work ? :goggleeyes:

I liked (not in the current Farcebook sense!)  a joke on a recent episode of I'm sorry I haven't a Clue. Maybe not word for word but along the lines of: -
'The Management of this drive through Wildlife park do not accept any responsibility if your car is damaged by a bunch of monkeys.

Jack Dee 'The same warning is posted in my local Q........t!'

Joking apart many years ago my then partner had a foreign car which needed a new exhaust. She went to 'Fast Stitchup' and the expert(!) said, 'we can't get that part but we can get something more or less the same which we can easily bend to fit!' (Maybe how they got their name?)  :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: IanUK on July 14, 2013, 06:14:40 PM
Talking about "Fast Stitchup" Friend of mine took his 2 year old Renault for a service, they managed to strip the sump plug and then jammed it back in enough for him to get 100 yards down the road before the oil poured out.

Having walked back to them, the answer was "It was like that when it came in" They soon shut up when he told them that his model only needed servicing every two years, and that was it first service.

I went there last week (should have known better) after my wife's car went in for its first MOT. The MOT bloke noticed a bit of metal stuck in the tread, and advised I get it checked out, but was not a failure or even an advisory.

Spotty kid took one look and said it needed a new tyre as it was dangerous and would be impossible to repair once he had taken the metal out. He then went around the car checking the depths, and then told me the two front ones where close to the limits and would fail an MOT. He quoted £175 per tyre.

Showed spotty kid the MOT, and asked borrow his pliers. Pulled the metal out, not a hiss...nothing. I informed spotty kid not to treat people as stupid as he was, I think he is still blushing now.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Michael Shillabeer on July 14, 2013, 07:22:10 PM
I had a free brake test at "Fast Stitchup" a few years ago. All was ok. They didn't do MOTs so took it to another branch, who promptly failed it on its brakes...

Went back to first branch and asked for another brake test. They asked why, so I explained. They booked me into another garage at trade price. Car passed MOT there!

I've yet to find a reliable garage!

Michael
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Michael Shillabeer on July 15, 2013, 08:11:31 AM
I've been thinking about cars I've owned and the maintenance experience...

1974 Vauxhall Viva - did my own maintenance. No issues

1984 Opel Manta - did my own maintenance including de-coke, carb rebuild and cam belt change. No issues

1990 Citroen XM - independent Citroen specialist repaced timing belt. 100 miles later timing belt tensioner broke, belt came off, all valves bent

1995 Seat Toldeo - 50 miles after a local garage did a full service the fan belt snapped

2003 Peugeot 307sw - bought new  :) car had no power on motorway after a main dealer service - an engine hose had been left disconnected

2003 Renault Espace - see my last post re. MOT

2003 Ford Mondeo - small independent did full service. A couple of days later loads of black smoke from  exhaust - RAC found too much oil in engine

2002 Chrysler PT Cruiser - see my post re. MOT failure due to suspension...

So I conclude that DIY is far better than getting 'professionals' to do the work...!

Michael
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: deltic 187a on July 15, 2013, 01:38:59 PM
The man definitely has a point there.

Being an ex marine engineer, I find the modern world a bit perplexing. The art of diagnostics has gone right out of the window and now it is a case of replace bits until it works again - absolute carp.

Then you find bits missed off as you point out - if the computer doesn't say do it, then it literally doesn't get done, shameful really and makes me very sad that old proper skills are fast disappearing.

Rant over...... :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on July 15, 2013, 09:55:28 PM
Quote from: deltic 187a on July 15, 2013, 01:38:59 PM
The man definitely has a point there.

Being an ex marine engineer, I find the modern world a bit perplexing. The art of diagnostics has gone right out of the window and now it is a case of replace bits until it works again - absolute carp.

I don't think that is the case entirely. A lot of the electronica because of the way they are built are simply way cheaper to replace than repair. It's why TV service engineers died out. The motor industry is also under pressure to repair cars cheaply so spent a lot of time making sure that an idiot could understand the computer and they could pay staff peanuts. As a result they got idiots. Then they had this "bright" idea of locking down the diagnostics and tools so they could fleece the service idiots as well as the customers and in doing so killed off most of the rest of the trade.

A good engineer can however still peer at the diagnostics, give the computer a hard stare and then check a few other things and fix the real problem not the one it claims. Also unlike the idiots they can start from the ludicrous and reach a diagnostic. Take a friends experience - Walk into a typical brand repair outfit or offcial service centre and tell them "if I don't put the seat back a bit the fault light comes on"

(translation as soon as it was seen by a non-MacService person with some brains and experience 'oh frayed cable under the seat')

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on July 15, 2013, 10:12:59 PM
The worst problem with the modern car computer systems I have found is the different stds. A classic case being Subaru who have their own system which does not even read all their models.UK and US cars are fairly easy to get patches for but Japanese Imports even main dealers can't always read.
For the last 4 years I have been trying to get the pin out for my ECU just so I can check something out regarding the throttle control of the ECVT gearbox. (Totally sealed box with potted wires on the gearbox sensor)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: deltic 187a on July 16, 2013, 12:57:27 AM
Very angry with myself tonight - been bidding on a Zephyr controller on ebay, auction ended tonight and I forgot all about it - missed out by a fiver............. >:( :veryangry: >:( :veryangry:

Note to self - just go out and buy one............!!!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: loco4401 on July 16, 2013, 04:03:11 AM
Quote from: deltic 187a on July 16, 2013, 12:57:27 AM
Very angry with myself tonight - been bidding on a Zephyr controller on ebay, auction ended tonight and I forgot all about it - missed out by a fiver............. >:( :veryangry: >:( :veryangry:

Note to self - just go out and buy one............!!!!!

Evilbay half the time its cheaper to buy it new than 2nd hand
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on July 16, 2013, 06:26:06 AM
Quote from: deltic 187a on July 16, 2013, 12:57:27 AM
Very angry with myself tonight - been bidding on a Zephyr controller on ebay, auction ended tonight and I forgot all about it - missed out by a fiver............. >:( :veryangry: >:( :veryangry:

Note to self - just go out and buy one............!!!!!

Similar thing happened to me recently, lost out by £2 :(. I console myself by thinking that, if I had bid, then I might have got into a bidding war and still lost  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: deltic 187a on July 16, 2013, 11:02:13 AM
That's why I never leave a large automatic bid, as some idiot will always outbid you at the last minutes.
Unfortunately what Loco says is right - the days of e bay being a cheap place to shop is long gone, in fact I have been keeping an eye on controllers and some of the buy it now prices are outrageous!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on July 16, 2013, 11:08:09 AM
Controllers have been commanding high prices for a long time on eBay now.  I was lucky enough to win a Kato controller for £23 last year but they normally go for nearly new prices.

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: deltic 187a on July 16, 2013, 11:14:27 AM
That is so true John,

I think it is time to start looking elsewhere and buy new from a proper model shop.

cheers
Trev.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on July 16, 2013, 01:19:46 PM
Quote from: deltic 187a on July 16, 2013, 11:14:27 AM

I think it is time to start looking elsewhere and buy new from a proper model shop.

cheers
Trev.

A dodgy looking Vortrack controller failed to sell on Ebay the other day, no bids,
suggested opening bid + post was about 75% of a brand new one from  the makers.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on July 17, 2013, 06:36:39 PM
Migraine  :(

Been next to useless at work today (no change there then) but it that's after me limping in...

Not good.

Skylin2uk   
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on July 18, 2013, 01:10:13 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on July 17, 2013, 06:36:39 PM
Migraine  :(

I know how that feels buddy.  Hope you manage to get rid of it soon, or can at least relax at home later.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on July 18, 2013, 06:59:00 PM
Thanks muchly Tank,

Thankfully the strongest over the counters I could get and a good nights sleep seems to have sorted it. Not had one for a long time, don't miss em!

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on July 18, 2013, 11:02:34 PM
I'm on the old pain killers at moment too..... had a toothache for months, had $1000 worth of dental treatment which did nothing, so ended up having it taken out last monday - and it still hurts.

Actually I can't work out what hurts the most... me tooth or me wallet.  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: loco4401 on July 19, 2013, 01:30:27 AM
I think the wallet would be hurting
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on July 19, 2013, 02:04:15 AM
Yeah.... with a trip to the UK and Europe coming up two weeks today, that's $1000 I could have done without parting with, even if it had done the job on the tooth! As it is, I'm just hoping I don't need more treatment between then and now.... but seeing as I am in pain as I'm sitting here typing this, I'm not hopeful. I certainly don't want to drag the hurt on the trip with me.  :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on July 19, 2013, 07:05:33 AM
Hope the pain goes away B'man, so you can enjoy your trip.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on July 19, 2013, 02:48:15 PM
Gak ... boiling hot night and then came downstairs at 5am to get a cold drink and stepped on a slug in my bare feet in the kitchen.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on July 19, 2013, 02:51:34 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on July 19, 2013, 02:48:15 PM
Gak ... boiling hot night and then came downstairs at 5am to get a cold drink and stepped on a slug in my bare feet in the kitchen.

:laughabovepost: Sorry Alan but find it so funny.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mereman on July 19, 2013, 02:54:47 PM
Was the slug alright :D

Sorry couldn't resist.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: loco4401 on July 19, 2013, 03:08:52 PM
Thats as bad as stepping in dog pee in the hallway because she refuses to use her pee mat
Quote from: EtchedPixels on July 19, 2013, 02:48:15 PM
Gak ... boiling hot night and then came downstairs at 5am to get a cold drink and stepped on a slug in my bare feet in the kitchen.


Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on July 19, 2013, 03:26:42 PM
I'm tempted to salt the edge of the back door to keep them out - I think the heat is driving them to try and shelter there.

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on July 22, 2013, 11:51:17 AM
Just had a renewal quote from Greenflag Recovery.

I have two years no claims bonus and a renewal price of £59.36.
Looked on their site and the same policy for a new customer is £45.58

Seem to remember something similar about two years ago,so I'll buy a new policy again and save some money.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mereman on July 22, 2013, 05:37:32 PM
Someone or some people just compromised both mine and Mrs meremans credit cards :veryangry:, lucky the bank (First Direct) were on the ball and no money has gone :), but no spending for me for a week until the replacement cards are sent out. Well if the vender uses PayPal I'm still OK.



Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on July 22, 2013, 05:40:47 PM
Any idea how or where it happened so we can all be on guard. 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on July 22, 2013, 06:09:56 PM
Full marks to First Direct. My British switch card was hacked about 5 years ago over here. The First thing I knew about it was that
I was eating in restaurants in Paris and Rome on the same night!

Thieves had broken into a local supermarket but rather than a robbery they had "hacked" the stores computer and cloned all the customers cards and PINs!!

First Direct reimbursed the funds straight away. Our Italian neighbours who suffered the same fate had to wait WEEKS for the Italian banks to react.

Time for an outbreak of "Rule Brittania" methinks..........
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mereman on July 22, 2013, 06:58:40 PM
Afraid I have no idea how it happened. We take care, well as much as is possible while buying on the net. In the last few months mine have been used on Amazon, and sites with the Verified by Visa system or by PayPal. The card haven't been lost or missing and in my jacket all the time. I think the same goes for Mrs mereman. Odd that both got "done", the same account but different numbers on the cards.

The last time it happened it was cloned at our local Shell station again lost nothing but was being tried in Canada and India at the same time I think that may have given the game away :D

Oh well I didn't want to get the track and point motors just yet.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on July 22, 2013, 07:07:51 PM
I can give a thumbs up for First Direct too!  :thumbsup:

Quote from: mereman on July 22, 2013, 05:37:32 PM
Someone or some people just compromised both mine and Mrs meremans credit cards :veryangry:, lucky the bank (First Direct) were on the ball and no money has gone :), but no spending for me for a week until the replacement cards are sent out. Well if the vender uses PayPal I'm still OK.

I got hit for a £2000 holiday via my Visa card a couple of years ago and the first I knew about it was when the Bank rang me with their suspicions of a fraudulent transaction.  The Bank had frozen all my accounts and opened new ones as they were speaking to me on the phone and by the end of the week I had all the new cards etc. Top notch service!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on July 22, 2013, 07:58:48 PM
 :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: Just re-read the letter about my scan tomorrow,
NOT allowed to eat or drink for 8 hours before.  :'(  - does that mean I get up at 0400hrs to have a sandwich and drink - still means I can't take my pills until afterwards because I have to take them with food.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on July 22, 2013, 08:02:42 PM
Regardless of the time of the scan, or whatever, my local hospital always puts "nothing to eat or drink after 10.30 pm the night before". A right faff if the appointment is not until the following afternoon.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mereman on July 22, 2013, 08:14:27 PM
Quote from: Oldman on July 22, 2013, 07:58:48 PM
:thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: Just re-read the letter about my scan tomorrow,
NOT allowed to eat or drink for 8 hours before.  :'(  - does that mean I get up at 0400hrs to have a sandwich and drink - still means I can't take my pills until afterwards because I have to take them with food.

Good luck mate I hope all goes well.

I've been lucky the 2 minor procedures I've had this year one was done in the morning (first on the list) and the other early afternoon so not to bad. But Mrs m had a minor operation and wasn't "worked on" 'til the late afternoon we got out at 7:30pm after getting there at 8:30am.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on July 22, 2013, 09:56:09 PM
Quote from: Jack9465 on July 22, 2013, 07:07:51 PM
I can give a thumbs up for First Direct too!  :thumbsup:

Been with FD pretty much since they started, never had a problem :thumbsup:

On the suject of card-cloning a mate of mine had his credit card cloned and only realised when there was two grand of furniture ordered on it. The police investigated and discovered it was yet to be delivered, so they asked the furniture company to deliver as planned and lay in wait at the delivery address, sure enough it was delivered to the thieves home address! ::) They won't be cloning much for a while ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on July 22, 2013, 10:12:16 PM
Quote from: Oldman on July 22, 2013, 07:58:48 PM
:thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: Just re-read the letter about my scan tomorrow,
NOT allowed to eat or drink for 8 hours before.  :'(  - does that mean I get up at 0400hrs to have a sandwich and drink - still means I can't take my pills until afterwards because I have to take them with food.

All the best for tomorrow, Oldman.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on July 22, 2013, 11:58:09 PM
Geez! Horror stories! The worst that's happened to me so far (touch wood) is my email account was hacked. Nowhere near as bad as bank accounts! From what I'm reading here, though, that bank you mention - what's it called? First Direct? They sound to be pretty much on the ball.

Hey Jerry - what'd yer have for dinner that night in Paris and Rome? :D Sorry, not really funny, I know.  :thumbsup:

Best of luck with the medical, Oldman. I'm off for my monthly blood dump tomorrow (I have hemochromatosis), and it will be the last one before my 2 month Frodo adventure.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on July 23, 2013, 12:30:27 PM
Quote from: Bealman on July 22, 2013, 11:58:09 PM

Hey Jerry - what'd yer have for dinner that night in Paris and Rome? :D Sorry, not really funny, I know.  :thumbsup:


Frogs legs AND Pasta!

Bet the bu***rs ate better than I did.  My main concern was did I leave a tip ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on July 23, 2013, 01:02:18 PM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:

Thought about suggesting both when I posted that but wasn't sure of yer tastes.  ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on July 23, 2013, 01:42:42 PM
Quote from: Bealman on July 23, 2013, 01:02:18 PM
:laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:

Thought about suggesting both when I posted that but wasn't sure of yer tastes.  ;D :thumbsup:

After 8 years living in Italy I will nowadays sell the family silver lead (or the dogs leads)..  for a curry, chinese, mexican or anything that originates from outside of this lovely ( I mean that bit) country.

Italians restaurants around here all tend to cook LOCAL and I mean LOCAL foods.

Still love em especially the E10 lunches 2 courses  half litre wine, water and coffee included.


Sorry MOVE THIS TO HAPPY THREAD !!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on July 23, 2013, 01:59:43 PM
No need to, buddy.... you just cheered up the angry thread!  ;D

Hey -  I lurve Mexican, but it sounds like your local diet is fine. Let's get angry again..... I'm jealous! All I get here is half a kangaroo patty and that's if I'm lucky  ;)

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on July 23, 2013, 02:08:08 PM
A water meter was compulsorily fitted and about 1/2 hour later found water (which I'm now paying for) was pouring out of an overflow :o. Apparently this is fairly commonplace as crud can get into the system from the fitting of the meter and it was upsetting a valve in the downstairs loo. Then discovered that the central heating was stuck on :sweat: - even though it was switched off. Initially, I didn't notice it because it was so hot outside. Luckily it was only one radiator but still had to have something to do with the time-switch replaced.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: deltic 187a on July 23, 2013, 05:18:19 PM
You mean you have a downstairs loo as well as an upstairs one - we just have a privy at the bottom of the garden. water meter - whats one of those??, we have to wind a bucket down a well ( try metering that Anglian water..... !! ).
Mind you here in Grimsby we don't have electricity yet, just gas - we don't have positive and negative - just in and out......plays havoc with the layout..................... >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on July 23, 2013, 05:26:51 PM
We have had a water meter for many years and found you soon adjust, showers instead of baths and more economical use of the washing machine- short cycle eco washes.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on July 24, 2013, 01:16:46 AM
And turn the tap off while brushing your teeth. And get some water butts for watering the garden etc, not for brushing your teeth  :D

We've had a water meter for around 6 years now. We pay £15.50 per month instead of around £25 for a 3 bed house with 2 adults and 2 cats.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ozzie Bill. on July 24, 2013, 02:20:18 AM
we don't get a choice re water meters and now they've also "allowed us" to have smart electricity meters so we get charged more for peak usage. that's all fine except they didn't tell us they'd fitted the smart meter, so our last bill was double!! great lesson learnt though, haha. cheers, Bill.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on July 24, 2013, 04:46:11 AM
Cost of utilities here in Oz is spiralling out of control. The esteemed publisher-in-chief of the uber-cool (well I think it is) Aussie electronics mag Silicon Chip is always going on about it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on July 24, 2013, 10:07:34 AM
Quote from: Bealman on July 24, 2013, 04:46:11 AM
Cost of utilities here in Oz is spiralling out of control.

I can believe that for water - I'd have thought electricity ought to be cheap though given the amount of space you've got for massive solar farms ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on July 25, 2013, 12:46:27 AM
Something called politics gets in the way  :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: deltic 187a on July 25, 2013, 01:46:31 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on July 24, 2013, 01:16:46 AM
And turn the tap off while brushing your teeth. And get some water butts for watering the garden etc, not for brushing your teeth  :D

We've had a water meter for around 6 years now. We pay £15.50 per month instead of around £25 for a 3 bed house with 2 adults and 2 cats.

Good heavens above....... we pay £68 per month unmetered, time to look into getting one fitted methinks !!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on July 25, 2013, 02:13:33 AM
I can't say I've ever seen a mansion in Grimsby but it looks like you're paying for one. We don't even pay £68 per month for gas never mind water.
Most places will let you have a water meter fitted with an option to revert back to unmetered in the first 12 months so that may be worth looking at. According to THIS PAGE (http://www.anglianwater.co.uk/household/water-meters/B54F79707C8D4CDEA680D5F570594EA1.aspx) you are an above average user with 4/5 people living in the property. Even if this is the case I would seriously look at having a meter fitted.

Ps, I'm guessing you're in the Anglian Water area and if you are they say you have 2 years to switch back if you want to.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on July 25, 2013, 10:29:21 AM
Quote from: Bealman on July 25, 2013, 12:46:27 AM
Something called politics gets in the way  :uneasy:

Ah.. ok

and I thought you had all those spare cricket pitches you could re-purpose  :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on July 26, 2013, 12:24:50 AM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:

Yeah, but it's sad, eh. By the time I get to the 4th test in Durham next month it'll probably be cancelled
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on July 26, 2013, 10:25:47 AM
Quite likely, after all they may as well pack up & fly home  >:D

On the other hand, they're getting some good coaching on how to do it properly  :P  >:D

(Just watch - England will now collapse on all remaining matches !  :doh:)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on July 27, 2013, 02:56:28 AM
I will be watching with interest  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: petercharlesfagg on July 28, 2013, 10:11:09 PM
On my way home from work today on an A road with a limit of 50 mph, mine and 5 other vehicles were overtaken by a motorcyclist across a road junction.

The motorcyclist was going SO fast that it was impossible to catch even a glimpse of the number plate!

Why should I think about motorcyclists like this driver?

It would only take one car driver to have turned Right at the head of the queue or someone to pull out from the junction and there could have been an almighty accident!

I might add that there are masses of signs to warn of the junction which is hidden by hedges.

Regards, Peter.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on July 28, 2013, 10:26:28 PM
Some of them (and I emphasise the word some) are suicidal  :no:

I cringe on my delivery route most mornings sitting in the northbound queue for the Blackwall Tunnel as motorbike after motorbike whizzes between the lines of crawling traffic at stupid speeds. Only takes one motorist to change lanes suddenly, or a biker to misjudge the gap between door mirrors, and there goes another airborne biker. There's an accident involving a bike here on average about once a week!


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on July 28, 2013, 11:24:50 PM
Some people just like to dice with death  :D

cheers John.

Black Devil - Moscow Ride on R1 - Original 720 HD!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzKB1sQ3-nc#ws)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on July 29, 2013, 04:42:53 AM
That is ridiculously bad. The worst thing about it is the idiot could kill someone else as well as himself.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on July 29, 2013, 01:27:22 PM
That standard of riding is pretty standard for over here, red lights and traffic signs are totally ignored by a lot of motorcyclists, they all seem to have a death wish.

I firmly believe that you shouldn't be able to get a motor cycle licence until you have had a car licence for a couple of years as motor cyclists tend to carry their bad habits over to their car driving.

I have actually been second in the queue when traffic lights have gone red, a motor cycle 2 behind me drives onto the pavement and goes past the lights on the pavement and swings back on the road, he couldn't go down the outside as traffic was queueing in the opposite direction.  Had almost the same with a couple of cars but they have overtaken the stream of cars on the offside as they wanted to jump the lights and not wait in the queue.  Unbelievable.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: FeelixTC on July 29, 2013, 01:40:54 PM
There has been an advertising/awareness campaign running for some years now which simply says:

Think Bike.

Fair enough, it's a good point.

But may I propose another similar campaign, but with a polar opposite audience:

Think, Biker.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mereman on July 29, 2013, 01:50:57 PM
Problem is the bad habits are not all on one side.

As I was taken out by an old boy who "I saw him but I thought I had time", this when for once I was under the limit coming out of Norwich. The gent didn't start to move until I was less then 50 yards away and just drove into my path.

Another was on the A143 going towards Diss just near Earsham. This is a wide road there was nothing my side but a stream of traffic coming towards me. A car started to overtake, no problem I just moved over a bit to give him/her room when another car started to overtake the car that was overtaking, I ended up almost off the road. Just the wrong side of the white line on the edge of the road.

Yet another when a van driver took a dislike to me and waited until I was level with him before he tried to force me off the road by turning, on a dead straight road, towards me and I ended up almost off the road on the wrong side. I had checked that he had seen me before starting to overtake, I could see his eyes in his mirror.

All of these on large bikes (two on a BMW R100S one on a Moto Guzzi Le Mans) so I would hope should have been easy to see, if none of the drivers saw me then they shouldn't have been driving.

I could go on but won't.

I will agree there's a lot of Bikers who are mad, and I'm sorry to say a lot are "born again bikers", people who have gone back to bikes, I've been a Motorcyclist since I was old enough to have a license over 43years now. I can drive but I hate driving. 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 29, 2013, 03:49:25 PM
Quote from: whiteswan on July 29, 2013, 01:27:22 PM

I firmly believe that you shouldn't be able to get a motor cycle licence until you have had a car licence for a couple of years as motor cyclists tend to carry their bad habits over to their car driving.


I have to take issue with you there, Caz.
I rode motorcycles for 15 years or so (didn't take my car test until I was 29) and firmly believe having been a biker makes you a better car driver.
I also dislike threads like this as there are good and bad in each camp and blaming one set or the other is just pointless
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mereman on July 29, 2013, 04:18:51 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 29, 2013, 03:49:25 PM
Quote from: whiteswan on July 29, 2013, 01:27:22 PM

I firmly believe that you shouldn't be able to get a motor cycle licence until you have had a car licence for a couple of years as motor cyclists tend to carry their bad habits over to their car driving.


I have to take issue with you there, Caz.
I rode motorcycles for 15 years or so (didn't take my car test until I was 29) and firmly believe having been a biker makes you a better car driver.
I also dislike threads like this as there are good and bad in each camp and blaming one set or the other is just pointless

Agreed Mick, bikes makes you read the road, "is that oil ahead?" that is still with me I'm always looking at the surface* even in the tin can :D


*Just to make clear I do look elsewhere not just the road surface :smiley-laughing:  sometimes...... :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EddieA on July 29, 2013, 08:42:27 PM
Quote from: FeelixTC on July 29, 2013, 01:40:54 PM
There has been an advertising/awareness campaign running for some years now which simply says:

Think Bike.

Fair enough, it's a good point.

But may I propose another similar campaign, but with a polar opposite audience:

Think, Biker.


How about a 'we car and motorcyclists are all road users campaign'? And we show a bit of consider to those who pay to use Britain's roads? OK I am a car driver and always have been but I do check that it is safe to turn, pull out etc. But the times a pedal cyclist has not done the same???

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: FeelixTC on July 29, 2013, 08:48:21 PM
My point was not made in an inflammatory manner; rather, to point out that there are good and bad drivers and riders. I've seen all four.
We *all* have a duty to take appropriate care, responsibility and, perhaps most importantly; concentration.
Drivers *need* to take extra care for riders, some of them are stupid.
And riders; you need to think about idiots in cars.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 29, 2013, 09:49:01 PM
Quote from: FeelixTC on July 29, 2013, 08:48:21 PM

Drivers *need* to take extra care for riders, some of them are stupid.
And riders; you need to think about idiots in cars.

Entirely my point, Feelix.
When I rode a bike I treated everyone else on the road as an idiot - and survived my 2 wheel period. I now apply the same logic to driving a car, and it's amazing how often someone does exactly what you believed they were going to do. Having been a sales rep (yep, all mouth and motorway) for many years you get a sort of 6th sense regarding what folks are likely to do
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mereman on July 29, 2013, 10:31:20 PM
I seem to have the same 6th sense I think I got that from 4 years of racing (very slowly). I don't know what clubman racing is like now but in the '70s there was a lot of idiots. If you don't pay me I recount some of the tales :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: keerout on July 29, 2013, 10:50:45 PM
Yep, it pays to be paranoid...  ;)
Gerard  :wave:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mereman on July 29, 2013, 10:56:26 PM
I'm not paranoid.. they are out to get me...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: FeelixTC on July 29, 2013, 11:10:39 PM
And I know you all talk about my paranoia when I'm not here.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on July 29, 2013, 11:20:15 PM
No disrepect to Sprintex but the number of lorries I find that will try and cut me up when they have just overtaken me on a clear dual carriage way.
They tend to be the demolition/builders rubble recycling ones.
Either that or they sit so close behind that I worry if I had to brake hard my little hatchback would be much shorter.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on July 30, 2013, 03:29:31 AM
No problem Mike, most truckers make the same complaint about bulk tippers and also skip lorries ;)

No need to cut in so quickly but they do, invariably chucking lumps of mud and stones up at your windscreen :no:


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on July 30, 2013, 03:57:26 AM
Looks like I'm in for fun when I arrive and pick up me car next week, then.

I drove over there for a month three years ago, and don't recall having any problems... nothing springs to mind, so it mustn't have been too bad. In, fact I was more worried about me doing the wrong thing on roundabouts. Yep, that was the major stress factor, if I recall.

Bloody tourists!  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 30, 2013, 07:57:15 AM
Quote from: FeelixTC on July 29, 2013, 11:10:39 PM
And I know you all talk about my paranoia when I'm not here.

I may be paranoid, but am I paranoid enough? :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Michael Shillabeer on July 30, 2013, 08:04:33 AM
Quote from: FeelixTC on July 29, 2013, 01:40:54 PM
There has been an advertising/awareness campaign running for some years now which simply says:

Think Bike.

Is it just me, but when I see these signs I think "ooh, a Moto Guzzi would be nice"?

Michael
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on July 30, 2013, 10:18:30 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 30, 2013, 07:57:15 AM
Quote from: FeelixTC on July 29, 2013, 11:10:39 PM
And I know you all talk about my paranoia when I'm not here.

I may be paranoid, but am I paranoid enough? :uneasy:
Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean that they are not out to get you  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on July 30, 2013, 05:10:17 PM
Quote from: Michael Shillabeer on July 30, 2013, 08:04:33 AM
Quote from: FeelixTC on July 29, 2013, 01:40:54 PM
There has been an advertising/awareness campaign running for some years now which simply says:

Think Bike.

Is it just me, but when I see these signs I think "ooh, a Moto Guzzi would be nice"?

Michael

Bikes - Ah!

Through my job at Smith Industries (Vehicle Instrument Division), I was involved briefly with the supply of instrumentation for Triumph Meriden soon after the Co-operative had been formed in the 1970's. 

I recall the guys worked so hard to keep the place going and they lived hand to mouth with supplies of materials trickling through.

Much has changed since but when I see a Triumph bike now I stand back and admire a brilliant looking machine.

Apologies - very much  :offtopicsign:

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 30, 2013, 10:17:18 PM
Quote from: daveg on July 30, 2013, 05:10:17 PM

I recall the guys worked so hard to keep the place going and they lived hand to mouth with supplies of materials trickling through.

Dave G

I owned 3 Meriden products during my biking time, 2 of which had the Smiths clocks before they made the change to Vega.
Having been a member of the Triumph Owners Club (Nulli Secundus) I went round the Meriden plant several times.
Oh, and I always took care not to run into cars :-X (before being accused of being off topic)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ozzie Bill. on July 30, 2013, 11:38:20 PM
Trying to get through to Energy Australia who have overcharged me $74 on last power bill. 3 on hold phone calls later. Go to their "website" which is the quick way, according to their on hold message. No way from there to complain, just the usual "sign up for new service here" s**t. Have now resorted to email. I hate these duopoly b*****ds. Total rip off, nil service, just a*seholes.
rant over, thanks, Bill.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mereman on July 30, 2013, 11:48:30 PM
Looks like the power companies are the same at the bottom of the world as at the top :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on July 31, 2013, 08:42:19 PM
Having given up with my rubbish B & Q greenhouse, that never held the glass properly, and partly collapsed under a foot of snow, I cleared the site and am now building a rockery. SWMBO wanted a small pond for the frogs ('allo 'allo), so I bought a small plastic one and started digging. Along came the rain, so chucked pond in hole and retired to the telly. Hole is now half full, as is pond - and frogs are happily swimming in the water in the hole!!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 31, 2013, 08:47:24 PM
Are they Insulfrogs or Electrofrogs :confused1: :-X
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on July 31, 2013, 09:09:18 PM
Actually, I think they are not frogs, but Toads!!!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davieb on July 31, 2013, 09:15:10 PM
Strange place to put a Brakevan, in a pond  :o  :smiley-laughing:

dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on July 31, 2013, 10:06:48 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 31, 2013, 08:47:24 PM
Are they Insulfrogs or Electrofrogs :confused1: :-X

Electrofrogs :)

Stands to reason, they're swimming about, therefore they're live frogs not dead frogs :D


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on August 01, 2013, 05:22:12 PM
As far as I'm concerned, they can hop it until I have finished the job. Not likely today as a zillion degrees in the sun, and too hot to dig!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: 1936ace on August 02, 2013, 05:50:12 AM
Just tried to order a 5inch gauge class 37 loco from a uk company but I was told that they don't ship to Australia as the postage is too high.
What the!
Whey should they care, I'm the one who is paying for the postage. So what if it was £600 my last uk loco cost that.
Very frustrated
Bart
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on August 02, 2013, 07:26:41 AM
That's annoying Bart!

Any chance you can appoint an international carrier from your side and get them to collect and ship from your supplier?

Hope you get it sorted.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Flounder on August 03, 2013, 08:48:10 AM
Aaarrrrgggggghhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!

4 weeks into what was supposed to be a 14 week building schedule on our house. Already 2 weeks behind due to shortage of bricks (shouldn't have been a surprise - it has become an issue across the country this year).

It transpires the architect drew our roof line incorrectly, so chippy constructed new dormer roof without checking the height of the existing dormer on left side of house.  So, drawing showed they should have been at same height, but for some reason the architect drew it so the pitch of new and existing dormers are only half way up our roof.  The problem is the existing dormer pitch starts at the top of our roof.  :doh:

So, if you are still following this, the new dormer is half the height of the existing one.  This is not what we instructed - the new dormer should be the same height and start at the top of the roof. The chippy's excuse is that as there is tarpaulin enclosing the new build, so he couldn't see or take reference from the existing dormer height.  Give me strength.  :hmmm:

Nobody (including me) picked up the inaccurate architect drawings.  Architect going to get a rocket on Monday, and builder also experiencing my displeasure as he spent a whole day on the roof without realising the issue.  These are professionals with years experience, that's why I am paying them rather than doing it myself.  Very annoyed.   :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on August 03, 2013, 09:05:31 AM
... and quite justified anger, Flounder!

Apart from the waste of time and materials, I guess that the incorrect dormer wouldn't get passed building regs inspection either.

Hope you get things sorted without further elevation to your blood pressure.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Flounder on August 03, 2013, 09:13:23 AM
Cheers Dave G and yes you are correct.

Building control are coming out on Monday to meet the builders, whilst Planning will no doubt be taking sharp intakes of breath.  Looks like a redesign of the joists with heavier larger timber.

Mrs Flounder is quite pleased I will be at work on Monday. Kofi Annan I am not!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on August 03, 2013, 09:44:05 AM
I can imagine with you being at work on Monday you will be constantly on the phone to Mrs Flounder, I hope some common sense kicks in soon with all these people.

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on August 03, 2013, 10:47:16 AM
Sounds like a complete **** up. For this type of posting
we need an EXTREMELY angry thread.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 03, 2013, 10:49:23 AM
My brother-in-law has been going through much the same thing, Flounder, so I have all the sympathy in the world. It seems to me that architects and builders are just not on the same wavelength as mere mortals :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on August 03, 2013, 11:10:16 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 03, 2013, 10:49:23 AM
architects and builders are just not on the same wavelength as mere mortals :veryangry:

It wouldn't be so bad if they were on the same wavelength as each other  ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 03, 2013, 12:56:48 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on August 03, 2013, 11:10:16 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 03, 2013, 10:49:23 AM
architects and builders are just not on the same wavelength as mere mortals :veryangry:

It wouldn't be so bad if they were on the same wavelength as each other  ???

The same planet would even help ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: loco4401 on August 08, 2013, 09:05:04 AM
Quote from: 1936ace on August 02, 2013, 05:50:12 AM
Just tried to order a 5inch gauge class 37 loco from a uk company but I was told that they don't ship to Australia as the postage is too high.
What the!
Whey should they care, I'm the one who is paying for the postage. So what if it was £600 my last uk loco cost that.
Very frustrated
Bart
Bart maybe they dont trust ups or fed ex to ship the item and have you say it was damaged during trainist as the cubic cost would be a killer or wasthe cost dead weight
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on August 08, 2013, 11:12:32 AM
Fly over and fetch it - if nothing else it'll be fun in the baggage scan !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davieb on August 11, 2013, 09:20:33 PM
My waterslide Decals for re-numbering Diesel locos have reacted with something  :hmmm:

Lost all Number 3s  And guess what I need for my current project  :confused2:

And I have run out of "Ds" on my rub-down set  :thumbsdown:

Can't mix them as they are different sizes  :o

dave  :veryangry2: :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 11, 2013, 09:36:06 PM
Knowing what your next project is, that's a real PITA :(

Quote from: davieb on August 11, 2013, 09:20:33 PM

And I have run out of "Ds" on my rub-down set  :thumbsdown:


So that's a rub-own set, then :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davieb on August 11, 2013, 09:38:34 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 11, 2013, 09:36:06 PM
Knowing what your next project is, that's a real PITA :(

Quote from: davieb on August 11, 2013, 09:20:33 PM

And I have run out of "Ds" on my rub-down set  :thumbsdown:


So that's a rub-own set, then :laugh:

:doh:  Left myself open for that one  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :-[

dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on August 11, 2013, 09:54:57 PM
Quote from: davieb on August 11, 2013, 09:20:33 PM
Lost all Number 3s
At least you can still do Number 1s and Number 2s  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 14, 2013, 04:00:53 PM
So there I was in B & Q this morning, and when I returned to the car I could see the front wing on my new Fiesta was scraped. Looking at the car next to me and the way the wheels were set, it was obvious they'd hit my car when turning in next to mine. The scratches on their car bore out what had occurred. So I waited for the driver to return and informed her what she had done. Needless to say she had no documents with her but gave me her name and phone number.
Now to the rub. Insurance companies these days strip you of any no claims bonus and ramp up your premiums until the matter is settled. Even if this lady admits to it and her insurance covers the costs, that claim still remains on my policy for 3 years as a "3rd party claim", even though I have Protected No Claims.
I have tried calling her number but get an answer machine. I have also established it will cost me £120 to have my car fixed privately, so am reliant on her being honest.....if she calls me back.
From now on I'm parking in either the disable or parent & child bays :veryangry2: :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on August 14, 2013, 04:16:25 PM
Before they delete it ask the B&Q if they have any security camera footage of the incident in case you need to get the police involved (eg if it turns out she gave false details).

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on August 14, 2013, 05:22:07 PM
That's really poo, Mick! I hope the lady comes clean and does the honourable thing and offers to pay.

I try and park my reasonably new and big  'van' in the most remote place I can find within a car park. By some strange herding instinct there nearly always is someone that parks next to me and so-o close I wonder how they get out.

A mate who runs a garage advises that the claim needs to be £1K to be worth claiming as the companies will get you to pay it back, one way or another.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on August 14, 2013, 05:23:48 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on August 14, 2013, 04:16:25 PM
Before they delete it ask the B&Q if they have any security camera footage of the incident in case you need to get the police involved (eg if it turns out she gave false details).

That is a very good idea, let's hope technology can help out in this case.

I take it you noted down her number plate?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on August 14, 2013, 07:48:58 PM
 :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

Boiler has gone kaput. contacted our housing association who contacted transco to come and check because we could smell gas. They checked every thing out and confirmed my thoughts that there is a fault on the ignition circuit - flame failure light comes on and gas was escaping through the flue.

The gas supply has now been capped so we can't use it and a unsafe sticker put on the boiler.    No hot water unless we boil a kettle.  Worse still it was bath night.

Phoned the landlords back up to be told they will contact me sometime tomorrow about fixing it.  Told not a high priority(as usual) but last time it went wrong took them 3 weeks and I ended up getting compensation due to their poor service - due to them ordering the wrong part twice.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on August 14, 2013, 08:02:40 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 14, 2013, 04:00:53 PM
So there I was in B & Q this morning, and when I returned to the car I could see the front wing on my new Fiesta was scraped.

Know exactly how you feel, several years ago (Car since sold) I bought a brand spanking new 08 reg car and collected it on the first day the registration came out, 4 days later went back to in a supermarket carpark to find a trolley shaped scratch all down the side of it.   Must have been obvious because they had folded the mirrror back as well...No Note and rather than go through the insurance contacted the dealer I purchased the car from because I knew they would have some of the paint as they had fitted extra's when I bought the car-fullsports body kit which had had to be sprayed to match,- I had paid  cash for the car and the extra's  were over 2 grand - they sorted the scratch  for a nominal fee arond £25 if I remember right,
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 14, 2013, 09:15:28 PM
I seem to have the opposite of the Midas touch today :uneasy:
I thought I'd give my Class 40 Atlantic Conveyor a run. Everything was going very well - quiet, good slow running and then it just stopped as if all power had been turned off. So I got out a class 47, and that ran with a constant knocking as if it had a square wheel (guess it has a split gear :hmmm:)
I really don't think I should touch anything else today (so I'm busting for a wee :worried:)
Please don't blame me for last night's forum outage though................but then again :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pete Mc on August 14, 2013, 11:41:14 PM
Mick,I now this may sound slightly obvious but check the pickups where they touch the chassis underneath.These are a bent over type of thing that can,when they are boxed up,compress the bogie and loco body/chassis.You'll need to take the bogie sideframes of to get to them but bending them back is easy and should restore it to full working order,assuming this is a class 40 diesel.If its a kettle then forget what I jist wrote.I know now nowt about em.

I found the same problem when I fitted my class 40 with sound.I did the above and it runs as sweet as a whistly nut now.

As for the other thing, ???????

Pete
:Class31: :Class37: :NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 15, 2013, 10:14:54 AM
Quote from: Pete Mc on August 14, 2013, 11:41:14 PM
Mick,I now this may sound slightly obvious but check the pickups where they touch the chassis underneath.These are a bent over type of thing that can,when they are boxed up,compress the bogie and loco body/chassis.You'll need to take the bogie sideframes of to get to them but bending them back is easy and should restore it to full working order,assuming this is a class 40 diesel.If its a kettle then forget what I jist wrote.I know now nowt about em.

I found the same problem when I fitted my class 40 with sound.I did the above and it runs as sweet as a whistly nut now.

As for the other thing, ???????

Pete
:Class31: :Class37: :NGaugersRule:

Hi Pete,
I know we're straying off topic into Loco surgery now, but how do the sideframes come off please? TIA
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on August 15, 2013, 11:22:52 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 14, 2013, 09:15:28 PM
I really don't think I should touch anything else today

You could walk around town touching all the flash cars  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davieb on August 15, 2013, 11:23:10 AM
Hi Mick  :wave:

If you turn the loco upside down and look at the rear of the bogies you will see a clip  :hmmm:
release the clip and the side-frames will come away

Best to do it in a large plastic bag as the coupling springs tend to vanish  :o
Well at least mine did  :doh:  :-[

dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 15, 2013, 04:14:27 PM
Cheers Dave,
Usual comment though - where the heck do I get a 5'10" plastic bag ???
I tried CSI but they said to go away - well, that's the polite version ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on August 15, 2013, 04:58:17 PM
It's like man-size tissues - never seen a 6' one
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on August 15, 2013, 05:04:15 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 15, 2013, 04:14:27 PM
Usual comment though - where the heck do I get a 5'10" plastic bag ???

Try an undertakers  :angel:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on August 17, 2013, 03:48:06 PM
 :veryangry: Just realised that the 2 woodland scenic inclines that I bought some while back are not going to fit the space and slope I intended them for :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on August 17, 2013, 04:15:41 PM
SWMBO & I went to a model rail exhibition today ... instead of being charged the normal rate, we were given the discount rate for OAPs   :jawdropping:

I've got 20 bloody years to go !!!  :veryangry:  :veryangry2: :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on August 17, 2013, 04:16:47 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on August 17, 2013, 04:15:41 PM
SWMBO & I went to a model rail exhibition today ... instead of being charged the normal rate, we were given the discount rate for OAPs   :jawdropping:

I've got 20 bloody years to go !!!  :veryangry:  :veryangry2: :censored:

:laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 17, 2013, 04:58:30 PM
My Mum told me today one of her friends had said to her "You haven't changed in the last 20 years" and that really chuffed Mum until I pointed out her friend could possibly have been saying that when Mum was 60 she looked 20 years older.
That's when the fight started............. :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on August 17, 2013, 05:10:56 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 17, 2013, 04:58:30 PM
My Mum told me today one of her friends had said to her "You haven't changed in the last 20 years" and that really chuffed Mum until I pointed out her friend could possibly have been saying that when Mum was 60 she looked 20 years older.
That's when the fight started............. :laugh:

I can just see your mum writing a note to herself:

Monday 19th August
Contact solicitor to amend will  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 17, 2013, 05:13:35 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on August 17, 2013, 05:10:56 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 17, 2013, 04:58:30 PM
My Mum told me today one of her friends had said to her "You haven't changed in the last 20 years" and that really chuffed Mum until I pointed out her friend could possibly have been saying that when Mum was 60 she looked 20 years older.
That's when the fight started............. :laugh:

I can just see your mum writing a note to herself:

Monday 19th August
Contact solicitor to amend will  >:D

Too late, John.
I already have Power of Attorney ;) >:D :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on August 19, 2013, 11:28:17 AM
I've been sat here in four lanes of stationary traffic on the M25 for nearly an hour now, obviously a very serious accident ahead as the emergency vehicle count keeps going up and up :worried:

Now comes the rant - why do people feel compelled to get out of their cars in these situations and wander about the motorway, especially on the hard shoulder where every so often a fast moving emergency vehicle comes hurtling along? :veryangry: Looking at the scene here anyone would think it was a picnic area rather than a major road! The mentality of some people is really beyond me at times :doh:


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on August 19, 2013, 11:31:59 AM
It always annoys me when they slow down to look at an accident, sick people  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on August 19, 2013, 11:42:29 AM
Some police forces were trying out foldable screens to hide the accident scene and prevent the ghoulish 'rubber necking' that some folk have to do.

In this part of Kent, the M25 is always in trouble; the Clacketts Lane area somehow attracts prangs like moths to a flame. My record is 4 hours from Sevenoaks to Watford. Deep joy.

Stay safe, Paul!

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 19, 2013, 11:48:52 AM
Upshot of my little scrape was that B & Q had CCTV but only of the entrance/exits and reminded me there were notices in the car park "Own risk etc"
The woman's partner did phone me and asked if I was in the car at the time - No
Were there any witnesses - No
So it could have been anyone, to which I stated she was the only car with corresponding scratches.
He said he had looked at her car and, apart from normal wear and tear, there was nothing to suggest she had hit something. He then proceeded to harangue me for causing worry to his partner. Upshot - very rude words sent down the telephone line, and my car will be in the garage next week at a cost to me of £120. Just what I needed before TINGS :veryangry2: :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on August 19, 2013, 11:57:43 AM
That is sickening Mick  :censored:

If you know where they live, give it a few months then pay the roof of their car a visit with a tin of brake fluid on its side with the cap off >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on August 19, 2013, 12:04:13 PM
Sorry to hear that Mick, Really annoying but TBH, not that unexpected.

Naughty boy, John! 

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on August 19, 2013, 12:29:15 PM
Quote from: daveg on August 19, 2013, 11:42:29 AM
Some police forces were trying out foldable screens to hide the accident scene and prevent the ghoulish 'rubber necking' that some folk have to do.

In this part of Kent, the M25 is always in trouble; the Clacketts Lane area somehow attracts prangs like moths to a flame. My record is 4 hours from Sevenoaks to Watford. Deep joy.

Stay safe, Paul!

Dave G

Bet that made people slow down more to try and peek through the screens. They need a bit of psychology. Simply set up a very visible officer with a video camera watching the traffic that's rubber necking so drivers get the message.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davieb on August 19, 2013, 01:43:11 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on August 19, 2013, 11:57:43 AM
That is sickening Mick  :censored:

If you know where they live, give it a few months then pay the roof of their car a visit with a tin of brake fluid on its side with the cap off >:D

Funnily enough that's exactly what I said  :uneasy:

dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mereman on August 19, 2013, 04:30:34 PM
Your car park "event" Mick reminds me of one we had. We were just coming back to our car when there was a "crunch" and the car next to ours had just opened his door and the door hit our car. Told him he had hit our car with his door, he said "no it couldn't have happened" and to prove it he opened the door again.......

... and hit our car again. Lucky our car was then old and well used. :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on August 20, 2013, 04:48:52 AM
Quote from: davieb on August 19, 2013, 01:43:11 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on August 19, 2013, 11:57:43 AM
That is sickening Mick  :censored:

If you know where they live, give it a few months then pay the roof of their car a visit with a tin of brake fluid on its side with the cap off >:D

Funnily enough that's exactly what I said  :uneasy:

dave  :thumbsup:

In the face of such arrogance I'd have to agree too, these people need teaching a lesson where it will hit them the most - in the pocket!

I did have a similar incident a few years back while sitting in my car waiting to go to an appointment. Some idiot pulled in next to me and opened his door onto mine hard enough to put a small dent in it. I opened the window and tried to speak to him about it but he completely ignored me even though he was only two feet away! >:(

I went to my appointment and on returning to the car noticed his was still parked there and no sign of him either. That's when it happened. I don't quite know how, but as I took the keys out of my pocket to unlock the door one of them 'accidentally' scraped along the rear wing and both doors of the other car, deep enough to go through the primer as well  :whistle:


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ozzie Bill. on August 20, 2013, 07:23:58 AM
Mick, ring the a**hole back and tell him a witness has just contacted you and asked if you needed them to provide a statement. get a distant mate to provide a written statement. Bill.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 20, 2013, 09:20:50 AM
You obviously have their registration number Mick, so phone the old bill, or get someone else to do it, and report seeing what might have been a drugs deal going down.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on August 20, 2013, 09:58:59 AM
I like the tone of the last few threads, as they say "Fight fire with Fire!". >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 20, 2013, 02:14:22 PM
Another trick I have heard of, is to get all the free offers for brochures etc that have return postage paid and send them off with their address on. Keeps our postmen busy.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on August 20, 2013, 03:16:42 PM
Quote from: Agrippa on August 20, 2013, 09:58:59 AM
I like the tone of the last few threads, as they say "Fight fire with Fire!". >:D

Only you'll look really stupid if it turns out she didn't cause it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 20, 2013, 04:35:06 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on August 20, 2013, 03:16:42 PM
Quote from: Agrippa on August 20, 2013, 09:58:59 AM
I like the tone of the last few threads, as they say "Fight fire with Fire!". >:D

Only you'll look really stupid if it turns out she didn't cause it.

I know she caused it, and she knows she caused it.
I have thought of many a vengeful act, but knowing my luck I'm the one who will get caught in the act somehow ::)
Thanks all, but I'll take it on the chin (or bumper, as the case may be)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: 1936ace on August 21, 2013, 09:14:27 AM
More annoyed then angry.

Predicting text function on the ipad. Having just read my last post I just realised it read as if a three year old wrote it.

Is there a way of turning it off

Bart
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on August 21, 2013, 09:24:49 AM
Take a look here Bart n see if that helps!

http://www.ipadforums.net/ipad-help/18894-predictive-text.html (http://www.ipadforums.net/ipad-help/18894-predictive-text.html)

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: 1936ace on August 21, 2013, 11:16:40 AM
Fanks dave, me be able to spell Goodyear now

Bart
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: FeelixTC on August 21, 2013, 04:49:52 PM
At the risk of sounding like a bit of a 'stiff'; whilst I completely understand the frustration and anger at such an incident, I cannot condone the acts of revenge that have been mooted.

Me mam always told me that 'two wrongs don't make a right'

It's the thin end of the Anarchy wedge  :o

Just my two penn'orth  :-\
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pete Mc on August 21, 2013, 11:22:21 PM
What about "Revenge is a dish best served cold."

If I knew where the person lived who did that to my car,even though its quite old,a visit in the very small hours,dressed in dark clothing would be the order of the day for me.This sort of thing,although not nice at all,only happens when you first change your car.When I last changed mine,it was used by all the kids on our street to chase each other around.I was a nervous wreck,constantly up and down looking out the window at them.

I'd park it in the supermarket car park away from ither cars and when I came out,it was surrounded by cars older and some bangers.

Trouble is,nowadays,no one has any respect for other peoples property.Bashing doors,scraping bumpers,touch parking and those who don't look until the bang happens all serves to show how inept some are at driving.I see lots of examples of stupid driving on a daily basis and its shocking so its no wonder these things happen.

Pete
:Class31: :Class37:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: WeZ on August 22, 2013, 01:40:01 PM
Following on from the Car Park incident post.

If you have the details report it to the police.  Technically its a hit and run. Which is also punishable by the law.

At the very least they will look up the owners address and pop around to see them,  even if nothing else comes of it maybe it will stop the silly mare from thinking about doing it again if she gets a visit from the boys in blue!


I am like another poster,  i tend to park miles away from the shop door much to my wife's dismay.  I dont care where she parks her shopping car but my Tonka Truck gets parked where i want to.

Again like the other poster i often return to the car to find all sorts of rust buckets then parked next to it.  Like fly's on %^&(  :(

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Michael Shillabeer on September 03, 2013, 08:18:50 AM
RIP Nokia 1871 - 2013

It's a sad day with the announcement that Microsoft is buying Nokia - the Nokia that an ex-Microsoft employee ran into the ground :(

That ex-Microsoft employee is now tipped to become head of Microsoft...

Michael
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on September 03, 2013, 08:32:07 AM
Quote from: Michael Shillabeer on September 03, 2013, 08:18:50 AM
RIP Nokia 1871 - 2013

It's a sad day with the announcement that Microsoft is buying Nokia - the Nokia that an ex-Microsoft employee ran into the ground :(

That ex-Microsoft employee is now tipped to become head of Microsoft...

Michael

Sad indeed. Further tightening of the world-wide corporate noose.

Soylent Green! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green))

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on September 03, 2013, 12:26:29 PM
Quote from: Michael Shillabeer on September 03, 2013, 08:18:50 AM
RIP Nokia 1871 - 2013

It's a sad day with the announcement that Microsoft is buying Nokia - the Nokia that an ex-Microsoft employee ran into the ground :(

That ex-Microsoft employee is now tipped to become head of Microsoft...

Michael

Nokia lost the plot when the first i Phone came out, they thought folks would not want smart phones at the time, I was a Nokia fan but there blatant refusal to keep up with the times came up and bit them on the bum, I bought a Nokia windows phone and I had nothing but trouble with it, I turned back on my 3GS which works perfect for me, so for Microsoft to buy out Nokia is a blessing in disguise for Nokia, lets just hope they can now build phones to keep up with Samsung, Apple etc.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on September 03, 2013, 12:37:07 PM
Quote from: Michael Shillabeer on September 03, 2013, 08:18:50 AM
RIP Nokia 1871 - 2013

It's a sad day with the announcement that Microsoft is buying Nokia - the Nokia that an ex-Microsoft employee ran into the ground :(

That ex-Microsoft employee is now tipped to become head of Microsoft...

Michael

As someone working for the competition I'm praying he does become head of Microsoft.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on September 03, 2013, 01:55:38 PM
Quote from: daveg on September 03, 2013, 08:32:07 AM
Quote from: Michael Shillabeer on September 03, 2013, 08:18:50 AM
RIP Nokia 1871 - 2013

It's a sad day with the announcement that Microsoft is buying Nokia - the Nokia that an ex-Microsoft employee ran into the ground :(

That ex-Microsoft employee is now tipped to become head of Microsoft...

Michael

[cynical mode] One wonders if Microsloth placed him at Nokia on purpose [/cynical mode]

Sad indeed. Further tightening of the world-wide corporate noose.

Soylent Green! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green))

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on September 04, 2013, 10:19:46 PM
So not only are German trains better and cheaper than ours but they are doing that despite the fact that several major rail, sleeper and switch blade manufacturers were operating an illegal cartel to overcharge Deutsche Bahn for ten years..  :veryangry: :veryangry:



Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davieb on September 14, 2013, 08:24:20 PM
I wish Antex put a light on their soldering irons  :hmmm:

Just spent 30Mins waiting for my soldering iron to warm up  :confused2:

Only just realised I had plugged my mini-drill in by mistake  :smackedface: :veryangry2:

It's been a long day  :-[

dave  :-X
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mereman on September 14, 2013, 08:38:11 PM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: petercharlesfagg on September 15, 2013, 07:30:01 AM
Quote from: davieb on September 14, 2013, 08:24:20 PM
I wish Antex put a light on their soldering irons  :hmmm:

Just spent 30Mins waiting for my soldering iron to warm up  :confused2:

Only just realised I had plugged my mini-drill in by mistake  :smackedface: :veryangry2:

It's been a long day  :-[

dave  :-X

HOORAY! So good to hear somebody else does the same as myself!!

Peter.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on September 15, 2013, 07:54:47 AM
Quote from: petercharlesfagg on September 15, 2013, 07:30:01 AM
Quote from: davieb on September 14, 2013, 08:24:20 PM
I wish Antex put a light on their soldering irons  :hmmm:

Just spent 30Mins waiting for my soldering iron to warm up  :confused2:

Only just realised I had plugged my mini-drill in by mistake  :smackedface: :veryangry2:

It's been a long day  :-[

dave  :-X

HOORAY! So good to hear somebody else does the same as myself!!

Peter.

As well as putting your best small screwdriver down exactly where it won't be found for weeks and weeks!  :doh:

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mereman on September 15, 2013, 01:52:56 PM
Quote from: daveg on September 15, 2013, 07:54:47 AM

As well as putting your best small screwdriver down exactly where it won't be found for weeks and weeks!  :doh:

Dave G

I'm certain someone or something moves them. Many years ago when I was a motorcycle mechanic I could never find the 10mm spanner I had just put down. :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: petercharlesfagg on September 15, 2013, 06:03:09 PM
Quote from: mereman on September 15, 2013, 01:52:56 PM
Quote from: daveg on September 15, 2013, 07:54:47 AM

As well as putting your best small screwdriver down exactly where it won't be found for weeks and weeks!  :doh:

Dave G

I'm certain someone or something moves them. Many years ago when I was a motorcycle mechanic I could never find the 10mm spanner I had just put down. :D

That's amazing!  It was always my 10 mm spanner that went missing!.  I'd buy another until eventually I had 6!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on September 15, 2013, 06:06:51 PM
With me, it was always the 1/2" AF. I could be using it, lying on my back under the car and it would somehow magically appear on the workbench, without me moving.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MinZaPint on September 15, 2013, 06:23:33 PM
It's when you've rebuilt the engine and it's ticking over a treat and you find a nut or bolt on the bench  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on September 15, 2013, 06:28:38 PM
Quote from: MinZaPint on September 15, 2013, 06:23:33 PM
It's when you've rebuilt the engine and it's ticking over a treat and you find a nut or bolt on the bench  :veryangry:

Even better is putting an extra component on someone elses workbench when they are not looking  ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mereman on September 15, 2013, 06:34:44 PM
For about 4 years I did some clubmans motorcycle racing. Which meant stripping the bike down often. I always had a washer or two left over I think the bike was a few grams lighter when I finished racing :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on September 15, 2013, 07:06:18 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on September 15, 2013, 06:28:38 PM
Quote from: MinZaPint on September 15, 2013, 06:23:33 PM
It's when you've rebuilt the engine and it's ticking over a treat and you find a nut or bolt on the bench  :veryangry:

Even better is putting an extra component on someone elses workbench when they are not looking  ::)

:laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:  >:D

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Michael Shillabeer on September 20, 2013, 02:22:34 PM
Quote from: Michael Shillabeer on September 03, 2013, 08:18:50 AM
RIP Nokia 1871 - 2013

It's a sad day with the announcement that Microsoft is buying Nokia - the Nokia that an ex-Microsoft employee ran into the ground :(

That ex-Microsoft employee is now tipped to become head of Microsoft...

Michael

He's returning to Microsoft with a massive bonus...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24171520# (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24171520#)

Michael
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on September 20, 2013, 08:15:39 PM
Here's hoping they make him CEO of Microsoft
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EddieA on September 22, 2013, 06:59:53 PM
OK I did try searching before posting as I thought this might come under Peters Law or the like (or this should maybe in a new 'Guilty' thread...)

Why is it that I have in the past gone 'down town on my own' ie into the City where I stay of on the outskirts of on many times and not run into anyone I know?

But as yesterday if you are in the company of a member of the opposite sex who might not be the one you are not 'expected to be with' (ahem) you meet several people you know?

Totally inoccent but the rumours are already flying :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on September 22, 2013, 08:04:12 PM
Happened to me once, on a course in London, with one of the girls from the office. Met my youngest son's ex-girlfriend, who was just walking the opposite way down the street. The course was for a week, and when I got home (pre mobile phones), I got the third degree - even though she knew I was on a course "with someone from work"!!!! If I had had a mobile then, I would probably have been able to let her know immediately - although a photo of us both might have been posted sooner.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on September 22, 2013, 08:07:55 PM
It's hell when you can't use a payphone ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on September 22, 2013, 08:16:19 PM
It was London, where, in those days, the payphones were all used, primarily, as gents toilets. I did not wish to go paddling!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on September 22, 2013, 09:00:30 PM
Quote from: Kipper on September 22, 2013, 08:16:19 PM
It was London, where, in those days, the payphones were all used, primarily, as gents toilets. I did not wish to go paddling!

... that's if you could find one that still had the handset attached and worked!  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EddieA on September 24, 2013, 07:58:51 PM
Quote from: Kipper on September 22, 2013, 08:04:12 PM
Happened to me once, on a course in London, with one of the girls from the office. Met my youngest son's ex-girlfriend, who was just walking the opposite way down the street. The course was for a week, and when I got home (pre mobile phones), I got the third degree - even though she knew I was on a course "with someone from work"!!!! If I had had a mobile then, I would probably have been able to let her know immediately - although a photo of us both might have been posted sooner.

Actually we, me and 'the other woman are now 'winding up' the rumours at our joint workplace.

So far:- 'we are intending to elope and get married in Italy/France???' (we are both on annual leave next week!!!) True, but we are going our own ways.

Or;- 'we have had our wicked way with each other and she is 'with child' and we need to elope etc,etc,etc,'

My proper OH is in on the game so I should escape without bruised/broken ribs but if not and I end up in A&E  I like green grapes and I hate Lucozade... :claphappy:

















 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Iano on September 25, 2013, 11:03:51 PM
my moan is that the bottom of our garden was a peaceful spot, the shed there being a real haven, then the people, sort of 90 degrees to us at the back extended substantially at single storey and now I hear their conversations/radio etc. I know it's a small thing but I loved the peace down in that shed, once wrote a document for work in there it was so quiet.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EddieA on September 26, 2013, 07:08:32 PM
Quote from: EddieA on September 24, 2013, 07:58:51 PM


Actually we, me and 'the other woman are now 'winding up' the rumours at our joint workplace.

So far:- 'we are intending to elope and get married in Italy/France???' (we are both on annual leave next week!!!) True, but we are going our own ways.

Or;- 'we have had our wicked way with each other and she is 'with child' and we need to elope etc,etc,etc,'

My proper OH is in on the game so I should escape without bruised/broken ribs but if not and I end up in A&E  I like green grapes and I hate Lucozade... :claphappy:

The rumours have gone 'viral' today at work! Interesting to see who your friends really are... ie who thinks they are shopping me into my proper OH!!! :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on September 29, 2013, 11:08:12 PM
I'm so angry,spent the evening checking the switches on my peco pL10E's. Found at least three not working correctly, one which had caused a major short on one track. Iv'e come to the conclusion they might be ok for o-o gauge but there is not enough movement in the point for reliable switching with n-gauge.Change of motors on some and possibly use my hex jucer for the others.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: trainsdownunder on September 30, 2013, 12:13:11 AM
Quote from: mereman on September 15, 2013, 06:34:44 PM
For about 4 years I did some clubmans motorcycle racing. Which meant stripping the bike down often. I always had a washer or two left over I think the bike was a few grams lighter when I finished racing :D

I reckon all those bit we found over were deliberately put there to frustrate - just where did they come from, or were they as you say extra weight so the "lighter" factory builds had an even bigger advantage.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on September 30, 2013, 08:55:25 PM
Really? REALLY?! Its 2013 and you think its ok to let your dog **** on the ground and just walk away?

Work shoes and car mat fell foul of some lazy #@*% who is an insult to dog owners.

Not a happy Skyline house....

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: bridgiesimon on October 05, 2013, 09:55:40 PM
Quote from: trainsdownunder on September 30, 2013, 12:13:11 AM
Quote from: mereman on September 15, 2013, 06:34:44 PM
For about 4 years I did some clubmans motorcycle racing. Which meant stripping the bike down often. I always had a washer or two left over I think the bike was a few grams lighter when I finished racing :D

I reckon all those bit we found over were deliberately put there to frustrate - just where did they come from, or were they as you say extra weight so the "lighter" factory builds had an even bigger advantage.

I was chatting to a guy at a show a couple of years ago, I am well into rallying and he used to rally, he was telling me that at one event he was walking past a competitors cars and threw a couple of spare bolts under their car and wandered off back to his car to get ready to compete. As it happened, the other crew got so stressed about these bolts, they spent time going over their engine trying to find there they came from, were late out to the start and got a time penalty losing them the rally! I was told they were really arrogate 'individuals' (ca't use the descrition used here)and he was delighted.

Angry thread -
I returned home this afternoon from visitng the local model shop for materials to find some little ******** (add your own words here) have knocked the pickup box off the front of our sky dish, we now have no tele until the engineer can visit on friday - earliest slot - aaaaaaaaaaaaargh cant see grand prix tomorrow!!!!!!

Am not a happy chappy!!!

Simon
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: trainsdownunder on October 06, 2013, 01:05:16 AM
QuoteI returned home this afternoon from visitng the local model shop for materials to find some little ******** (add your own words here) have knocked the pickup box off the front of our sky dish, we now have no tele until the engineer can visit on friday - earliest slot - aaaaaaaaaaaaargh cant see grand prix tomorrow!!!!!!

Am not a happy chappy!!!

Try looking for live streaming - I often watch mine this way. Have to put up with ads on some channels though
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on October 09, 2013, 02:17:52 PM
Just spent the morning trying to sell my timeshare (not used it since the wife passed away 5 years ago) fed up paying £450+ in maintenace every year.

They offered me £12,000, BUT I had to first of all buy into some scheme of theirs for £8,800, and I'd get back £20.880 in 14 months time.

When I explained to him that at age 79, on a pension and with an interest only mortgage of £700+ per month where did he suggest I get £8,800 from. If the timeshare had been a luxury penthouse apartment in some sought after location then he could buy it cash and make a profit selling in Russia!

Previous attempts have come up with other scams, paying money up front to cover advertising, paying an insurance or indemnity (refundable they say!!!!!) (against me welshing on the deal!!!!!)

If I try to stop paying the maintenance I'm told they can take me to court and bankrupt me.

Anybody found a painless way to get rid?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 09, 2013, 02:23:36 PM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on October 09, 2013, 02:17:52 PM
(against me welshing on the deal!!!!!)

Can we cut the racist language. It may have been acceptable 50 years ago but it's up there with a whole pile of other derogatory terms that belong in history.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 09, 2013, 02:52:33 PM
Once again Yahoo mail have changed their format and way of operating :veryangry:
I'm just waiting for the call from my 80 year old mother.................
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on October 09, 2013, 05:15:35 PM
 :hmmm:
Quote from: EtchedPixels on October 09, 2013, 02:23:36 PM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on October 09, 2013, 02:17:52 PM
(against me welshing on the deal!!!!!)

Can we cut the racist language. It may have been acceptable 50 years ago but it's up there with a whole pile of other derogatory terms that belong in history.
Unfortunately he spelt it incorrectly, it should be "welching", which does not refer to the Principality, or it's inhabitants and is therefore not racist, but an Americanism, which is almost as bad.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 09, 2013, 05:19:28 PM
Quote from: Malc on October 09, 2013, 05:15:35 PM

Unfortunately he spelt it incorrectly, it should be "welching", which does not refer to the Principality, or it's inhabitants and is therefore not racist, but an Americanism, which is almost as bad.

The OED disagrees with you (as do most of the Welsh folk I know). I'd note that even Michael Gove has apologised for using the term!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on October 09, 2013, 05:32:26 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 09, 2013, 02:52:33 PM
Once again Yahoo mail have changed their format and way of operating :veryangry:
I'm just waiting for the call from my 80 year old mother.................
Perhaps the reason is more literal....


A Yahoo is a legendary being in the novel Gulliver's Travels (1726) by Jonathan Swift.

Swift describes them as being filthy and with unpleasant habits.

I rest your case....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on October 09, 2013, 05:32:59 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on October 09, 2013, 05:19:28 PM
Quote from: Malc on October 09, 2013, 05:15:35 PM

Unfortunately he spelt it incorrectly, it should be "welching", which does not refer to the Principality, or it's inhabitants and is therefore not racist, but an Americanism, which is almost as bad.

The OED disagrees with you (as do most of the Welsh folk I know). I'd note that even Michael Gove has apologised for using the term!

I think we'll just have to disagree as I still believe it is a racing term for a bookie and not to do with the people. According to my Shorter OED, it makes no reference to the folk. I wouldn't expect Michael Grove to know any better.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Irish Padre on October 09, 2013, 08:18:51 PM
EP is correct in his analysis. It is also worth noting that the character Master Jonas in Richard Llewellyn's classic 1939 novel of Welsh life (How Green Was My Valley) also makes a clear allusion between the pejorative description of cheating and Welsh nationality.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 09, 2013, 10:36:11 PM
Must admit I always believed it to be 'welching' so think this is another example of differing spelling for the same meaning :confused1: :dunce:

Quote from: Jerry Howlett on October 09, 2013, 05:32:26 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 09, 2013, 02:52:33 PM
Once again Yahoo mail have changed their format and way of operating :veryangry:
I'm just waiting for the call from my 80 year old mother.................
Perhaps the reason is more literal....

A Yahoo is a legendary being in the novel Gulliver's Travels (1726) by Jonathan Swift.

Swift describes them as being filthy and with unpleasant habits.

I rest your case....

Superb description - thanks Jerry :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: 1936ace on October 10, 2013, 09:16:03 AM
Well more frustrating then angry.... well sort of!

Had to go an do a work health assessment due to exposure to asbestos and some other nasties when i was an apprentice.

Did the health check with the doc, all good then went for the xray.

After the xrays  the radiographer said to me as i was leaving the xrays look all good and you will get a letter with the results from the doc.

About an hour later while coming back from a fire call i get a phone call from the doc saying the xray confirms "something" but she wouldnt elaborate telling me she will sent the results to me asap in the mail and that i have to go for a specialist health check.

Like what the!

One minute im fine, next minute im "sick" but dont worry but you need to go get your lungs checked by a specialist.

Sort of started of feeling good today no feeling crap.

Might just have to go and do an order to cheer me up

Bart
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 10, 2013, 10:04:26 AM
Sounds on a par with the UK medicos, Bart ::)
Hope everything is OK :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: REGP on October 10, 2013, 12:23:35 PM
Yep certainly sounds familiar.

Hope appointment comes soon and all works out well.

Ray
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on October 10, 2013, 03:36:26 PM
With you Bart,

In September, Mrs "H" was called to the hospital here after a  :poop: test came up positive for blood.  She underwent a painful "quick probe" only to be told its "OK" we think, BUT she has to go for a scan "to be sure"......  Hospitals here are usually great but the first appointment was Dec 27th!! bear in mind this involves a severe diet for 4 days prior, so have deffered until Jan 3rd.

Hope your tests are quick and have a happy outcome.

Jerry
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: FeelixTC on October 10, 2013, 03:40:10 PM
While we're at it..............

I went to the quack's: "I'm not happy with my Kidneys Doc" (I've had trouble before)

"Naaah", said the Doc "That's not your kidneys; it's musco-skeletal that pain. But I'll send you for a scan anyway"

"Thanks Doc, no mixed messages there"
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on October 10, 2013, 03:59:11 PM
Quote from: FeelixTC on October 10, 2013, 03:40:10 PM
While we're at it..............

I went to the quack's: "I'm not happy with my Kidneys Doc" (I've had trouble before)

"Naaah", said the Doc "That's not your kidneys; it's musco-skeletal that pain. But I'll send you for a scan anyway"

"Thanks Doc, no mixed messages there"

At least I understood what the Doctors said, and that was in Italian....
what is musco skeletal pain ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: FeelixTC on October 10, 2013, 04:01:00 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on October 10, 2013, 03:59:11 PM
Quote from: FeelixTC on October 10, 2013, 03:40:10 PM
While we're at it..............

I went to the quack's: "I'm not happy with my Kidneys Doc" (I've had trouble before)

"Naaah", said the Doc "That's not your kidneys; it's musco-skeletal that pain. But I'll send you for a scan anyway"

"Thanks Doc, no mixed messages there"

At least I understood what the Doctors said, and that was in Italian....
what is musco skeletal pain ?

A pain in your kidneys!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on October 10, 2013, 05:16:30 PM
think yourself lucky ... I went in with a trapped nerve in my neck & came out with blood pressure tablets & a kidney warning !!!  :confused1:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on October 11, 2013, 12:41:07 AM
I went to my doctor as I suspected I had broken my leg in 2 places. He advised me not to go to those places!  :D

I hope you all get better soon and things aren't too serious.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on October 11, 2013, 07:24:21 AM
Yeah then while we are at the poor old me medical whinges, and our esteemed mod NPN wil vouch for this... on our relatively costly trip to the UK from Oz, my wife broke her thumb two days in, then after having had lunch with Mick in Blackpool, I went on the dodgems on central pier and broke a couple of ribs! I only had 1 pint, honest!


Great start, lugging broken appendages around for the next 6 weeks!

Didn't stop us, but.  :thumbsup:

Always look on the bright side.... Dee De Dee Der Dee de Dee...  :whistle:

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on October 11, 2013, 07:31:06 AM
Ps. The luggage held up.  :D

George
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pete Mc on October 19, 2013, 01:36:31 AM
Well,I'll tell you what,I can't wait to see this weekend out.Today at work I had a lovely early finish and an equally early start to the weekend.

So I went to a mates house and whilst there,we hweard an almighty bang from outside.

As human nature took over,we went out to investigate the source of the bang.What we saw when we got outside was a car slewed across the road all smashed up,with the drivers door open and music blaring out of the radio.We then had a look to see how this happened when my mate said the words that sent me cold.

"Pete,its your car thats been hit mate."

Sure enough it was and it was a big hit to boot.All the front nearside of my beloved Skoda was smashed in,radiator pouring its fluid all over the road,glass everywhere etc,etc.

When we looked round at the car that had hit mine,there was a bloke laid half in and half out of the Ford Ka that was slewed across the road,very badly damaged.

He was moving but he wasn't in a good way at all.Now at this point a load of people had come out of their houses to see what was going on so someone had gone to check the bloke out who was laid at the side of the Ka by this point.As I was ringing for the ambulance/paramedics,the person who was checking him out said he stinks of booze so the emergency service woman was told the police need to come as well.

Within 5 minutes the First Responder had arrived and the bloke frombthe other car was coming round and was wanting to get away,aggressively as well.He was restrained by a rather big bloke who kept hold of him until the Police arrived.

Once they were there that was when things got worse though because he admitted to being a disqualified driver,he had been drinking heavily,he wasn't insured to drive the car and furthermore,he didn't have permission to drive the car from its owner,his wife.

At this point,I'm boiling with anger and only just managed to keep my cool.The police,who did a proper accident investigation,closed the road for an hour and kept me informed with every step helped me maintain my cool.

The bloke failed a road side breath test and was taken to hospital with suspected chest injuries.They weren't bad enough as far as I'm concerned.This idiot got in a car,smashed out of his head,drove like a maniac only feet from the car in front and has most probably written my car off,causing me massive inconvenience,possible hardship and a totally wrecked weekend.I'm sorry to say this but I wish he'd sustained very serious injuries.I know this would not have changed anything but it would have served as a reminder to him that this sort of thing is stupid and selfish.

The problem is though,by getting out with what may be light injuries,he won't learn his lesson because quite clearly he has no regard for the law when he gets into a car,disqualified from driving and crashes.It could so easily been worse.

His only concern was to have a fag for heavens sake,not whether anyone was in the car he'd hit,which was parked with the handbrake on,that he'd pushed about 20 foot away from where it was originally parked so he was batting along a bit,in a 30mph zone.

A witness,walking his dog at the time said he went by,driving like a maniac,feet from the back of a dark Audi saw it happen.

Like I said though,he wasn't hurt badly enough for me.

Sorry if that upsets anyone but thats how I feel.

Pete
:Class31: :Class37: :NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: 1936ace on October 19, 2013, 03:30:24 AM
hey pete, thats crap mate!

same sort of stuf goes on here to. no respect for the law or other people. and worse is they go to court and the judge gives then a "now dont do that again" penalty, a real kick in the pant for the hard work the police have done and expence to taxpayers.

will the wife insurance pay for your car or do they wipe their hands of it because he was drunk

i totally agree with you re the injury thingy, it would stop them from doing it again and as i have said else where, they dont give two hoots about the people like nme that have to cut them out or clean up the mess.

fingers croosed mate it works out ok for you

Bart
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on October 19, 2013, 03:44:23 AM
That is indeed a horror story. Best of luck with it, Pete - keep us posted

George
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pete Mc on October 19, 2013, 04:01:44 AM
Cheers Bart,I'm already looking at the next step,that being the replacement for this one should the insurance company write mine off.

As for her insurance company,I have no idea how it'll pan out.I have been told it may take some time to sort out and there is also the ininsured drivers fund or whatever its called that provides another layer of protection(?),again,I have no idea.

What I do know is this,in the interim,if my car is written off,my insurance company will still want me on its books paying my monthly installments so I suspect that they'll pay me out which will then ensure they keep my custom because without a car,I don't need insurance therefore I won't need to make my payments which is no money to them ultimately.

In all the years I have been driving,this is the only time apart from the windscreen and window replacement claims that I have made and I have owned my own car since I was 19,not the same car obviously.I'm 44 now and never had a blameworthy claim made by anyone on my policy.

Its new territory for me now so hopefully it'll be a painless process and I'll have a courtesy or hire car to use the other side of this weekend at no cost to me.

Odd thing was,once the other bloke was getting into the ambulance to go off to hospital,he apologised and held out his hand to shake mine.I kept my hands in my pocket because I would rather have smacked him in the piehole.

A woman at the scene that lived over the road went nuts at him just before the police arrived,perhaps she'd had prior experience with a drink driver before and she went at him saying all sorts of stuff about kids etc,etc.Still didn't make me feel sorry for him even though I just wanted her to shut up.But thats human nature for you I suppose.

Pete
:Class31: :Class37: :NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Chetcombe on October 19, 2013, 04:56:46 AM
Holy cow what a story! Pete, you have had a week from hell what with the glasses incident and now your car. I hope they throw the book at this guy. I can't think of anything polite to call him  :-X
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DJM Dave on October 19, 2013, 10:25:52 AM
Hi Pete,

Sorry to hear of this as I know from similar experiences it's not pleasant.
In one, the driver drove into my partners car so fast it spin her stopped vehicle 360 degrees leaving her injured. He got out and went over to shout at her then drove off! She was too injured to take his details.

The second was a driver who drove I to the car directly in front of me, killing the father (driver), breaking the child's and mothers legs.
While I was tending the (not dead then) driver, the guy in the car got out and came over saying how he'd hurt his ankle.

FFS, these people need a check on reality, and a punishment to definately suit the crime!
All the best
Dave
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on October 19, 2013, 11:53:58 AM
As far as car crime goes, the punishment certainly does not fit the crime anymore.

They should be made to pay no matter what their circumstances are or however long it takes, hitting them in the pocket for a few years may make them think before getting behind a wheel.

I hope the insurance companies work quickly and get you sorted out soon Pete.

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Big Dave on October 19, 2013, 01:04:42 PM
I lived in South Africa until 1995 - worst accident rate in the world and about 50% of drivers unlicenced or using a licence they "purchased".

I find the average UK driver very considerate except for my one pet hate !

I regard the speed limit as a limit, not a target. I drive a Matiz and when I am doing 30 in a 30 zone I frequently get drivers flashing their lights or even hooting because they want to do 35 or maybe more. I know some cars are perhaps safer at 40mph than my car is at 30mph because they have disk brakes all around, traction control, and top quality tyres. However why should I drive at a speed I feel unsafe at especially when rows of parked prevent me from seeing a child about to try and cross the road.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 19, 2013, 03:50:14 PM
Won't get involved in the bigger debate here (though yet to see anyone post something I don't agree with), but I will say very sad to hear this Pete, I would not wish this on anyone.

I am very found of my car so I can only begin to imagine how horrible seeing yours smashed would be.

I hope this get sorted out as swiftly and pain-free as possible.

However, I will finish by saying....in a genuinely trying to be nice and not at all patronising way....that it could have been a lot worse.

Yes you have lost your only car and this will be a pain in the a*** but the only thing hurt was metal and the idiot that caused it. Humans don't come from dealerships, and no insurance in the world will replace the seriously injured or worse.

As that woman was screaming at the fool, like you say she could have had some pain from people like this.

Best of luck getting it sorted mate.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 19, 2013, 04:55:53 PM
So sorry to hear about this, Pete, especially on top of the 'glasses' situation.
People like this ought to be hung, drawn and quartered as a minimum :veryangry2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on October 19, 2013, 05:08:18 PM
Sorry to here this Pete, I hope you can get recon-pence from the idiot some how, it looks like it will be hard to do if he was not insured to drive the car, lets hope he gets banged up for driving while being disqualified, could not imagine if some kid was crossing the road with that nutter driving, All the very best Pete I do hope you are able to get mobile soon.

Take Care.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: REGP on October 19, 2013, 05:55:31 PM
Sorry to hear about the crash, at least you and family or friends weren't in the car at the time.

Here's hoping you get the insurance claim sorted out without to much hassle.

Ray
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pete Mc on October 19, 2013, 11:33:26 PM
Thanks for all your comments,its kind of a bit of a comfort that some of you who I have met and some that I am yet to meet have said what you have said.

Now is the time for an update,I think.

Today I went to the BRM show at Peterboghorror.My heart wasn't really in it but after I got home last night,I rang our club secretary and told him about what haf happened and he agreed to pick me up from home,which was nice.

So,I'm stood talking to Legomanbiffo about what I want him to do to my Dapol hst(reblow with matched and sychronised sounds,ie individual engine starts,horns that sound at the front,guards whistle at the rear,etc) and my phone rings.On the screen it says Unknown,so I asked Bif if he minded me taking the call and he says go ahead.

When I answered,the call was from a woman,a wpc or wdc,can't remember which,introduced herself and began to fill me in on the progress of the investigation which I honestly didn't expect.

This is what she told me.

The nubnut who crashed into my car has been charged with drink/drive,driving while disqualified and aggravated vehicle taking.She said the aggravated part relates to him crashing into my car,the vehicle taking relates to not having permission off the registered keeper/owner to drive the car.All of which he admitted to,which considering he was held forcefully at the scene to prevent his escape,he really had no choice.This was also backed up with preliminary forensic evidence that showed he was indeed the driver of the car and its only occupant.

Due to all this,he has been remanded in custody at Doncaster Prison until monday where he will go to court to be convicted of the above charges.He has been told to expect a custodial sentence as its his 3rd time,thats the 3rd time he has been caught driving while disqualified and the police are going after compensation on my behalf frlor the hardship and loss he has caused to me.Quite how this will be gained I'm not sure but I am in total agreement and she said something about it being deducted from any benefits he gets because he is unemployed.Which is absolutely no surprise to me.

Niw you would think that a bloke in his late 20's would've grown out if this sort of behaviour but clearly not and a master criminal he isn't either apparently.

And finally,I tried to ring my insurance company last night using the claimline number on the back of my insurance certificate only to find,by way of automated message that the claimline number is only manned from 9am to 5pm monday to friday.I have to say I'm rather disappointed by this and once my policy expires I will be seriously considering changing to another provider,unless their handling of my claim is absolutely without stress and complications,sorted out quickly and efficiently and I get a nice car to run about in in the meantime,VW Golf or something like this would be nice.

So,mammaryhead is now detained at her majesties pleasure where he should be and hopefully,his wife has started divorce procedings because in my opinion and this is strictly my own,no woman who has kids or is contemplating having kids with a man who repeatedly drink/drives should be with that person,and yes,his car or her car had a child seat in the back!

But she probably loves him and he's just made a simple mistake,3 times.Or this is how many times he's been caught driving while disqualified anyway.God onky knows how many times he's got away with this and drink/driving without being caught.I suspect its many,many times.

Pete
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Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on October 19, 2013, 11:46:00 PM
Sounds like things are going your way, buddy. Excellent news! It must have lightened up your time at the show and helping the weekend go a bit easier.

All the best and keep us posted!

George
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Chetcombe on October 20, 2013, 12:53:23 AM
Thanks for the update Pete, glad this jackass is getting his come-uppance. Fingers crossed your insurance company handle this with speed and decency

Good luck mate

Mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on October 20, 2013, 05:24:07 AM
What a terrible thing to happen, seems like the police are on the ball but disappointing about the insurance company - let's hope they get it sorted quickly for you on Mon.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: 1936ace on October 20, 2013, 07:16:54 AM
hey pete, so will you be offering to cook his meals and wash his clothes then or will the taxpayer organise it for him :veryangry:

At least he will be of the streets

BArt
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Big Dave on October 20, 2013, 01:09:08 PM
Pete, I think a car is a more dangerous thing than a firearm. People have to prove they are responsible enough before being allowed to apply for a shotgun for clay pigeon shooting. They should have to prove their character and there should not be an automatic right to drive. After putting you through what he did that "driver" should never be allowed on the road again because he has proved that his attitude/personality/values/conscience are below the minimum standard that should be a requirement for being allowed to drive. It is our "right" to be protected by this kind of person.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on October 20, 2013, 01:24:48 PM
Quote from: 1936ace on October 20, 2013, 07:16:54 AM
hey pete, so will you be offering to cook his meals and wash his clothes then or will the taxpayer organise it for him :veryangry:

At least he will be of the streets

BArt

Plus he may find a large muscled lonely friend inside who takes a shine to him  >:D

It is good to hear things appear to be going your way Pete, but no matter how smooth they go you are still going to be inconvenienced so I hope you are awarded some compensation on top of a favourable insurance claim.  Enough at least to get you another HST complete with "reblow with matched and synchronised sounds, ie individual engine starts, horns that sound at the front, guards whistle at the rear etc."

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 20, 2013, 03:19:58 PM
Quote from: 1936ace on October 20, 2013, 07:16:54 AM
hey pete, so will you be offering to cook his meals and wash his clothes then or will the taxpayer organise it for him :veryangry:

At least he will be of the streets

BArt

No, but us taxpayers have to pay to keep swine like him in the nick with comforts many families would like to have :veryangry:
Bring back chain gangs, I say
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on October 20, 2013, 04:17:45 PM
 :laughabovepost:
Crucifixion ?. Line on the left one cross each.......
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pete Mc on October 20, 2013, 04:53:21 PM
HST should be back with me sometime towards the end of the week so at least I'll have something good happen in what became a diabolical week.I'm off work until wednesday so hopefully the first part of the week will be a lot more successful than the last.

I've also got my twin speakered Deltic to turn my attention to as well.I've had the sound decoder a few weeks now but haven't had chance to do anything with it.Now I'm pretty much confined to barracks,theres no excuse not to get it finished.

I bought a Loksound decoder tester at the Peterborough show as well so before I snip off the plug I can give it a test on this and any subsequent decoders I buy,although this won't be for a while now but what this means is that I can put the odd hour in here and there on the layout.

Having no car though is rather a lot like having no legs.I know theres always public transport but I work in that area so I don't want to be using it in my spare time as well.

I also have a couple of cars and places to go and see some possible replacements,both of which are a short walk from home.

Pete
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Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on October 20, 2013, 05:18:09 PM
Just started watching the BBC2 programme on the Flying Scotsman, with Mrs "H" sitting down with me. Started raining and have lost all channels.

:veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on October 20, 2013, 05:49:30 PM
Sounds like you need the Angry thread instead :veryangry: :veryangry:, hope your channels come back soon. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 20, 2013, 06:08:43 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 20, 2013, 03:19:58 PM
Quote from: 1936ace on October 20, 2013, 07:16:54 AM
hey pete, so will you be offering to cook his meals and wash his clothes then or will the taxpayer organise it for him :veryangry:

At least he will be of the streets

BArt

No, but us taxpayers have to pay to keep swine like him in the nick with comforts many families would like to have :veryangry:
Bring back chain gangs, I say
Prisoners in many jails do get to work, are often required to do it and receive peanuts for it. The've actually been very successful in reducing re-offending despite the government screwing up the setup several times.

You might be surprised to know that Timpson has 3 workshops in jails and that they have a huge success in getting people to come out of prison, continue to work for them and stay clean.

Even in maximum security jails they've had successes with the brighter cons. Those who can read well enough have been employed doing useful stuff like the grunt work converting books into braille for children.

At least the twit in this question is now in the nick, perhaps they can do something about his drink problem. In the mean time I imagine his wife is going to have lots of time to leave him especially when she realises all the assets she has (if married) are likely to be pursued by your insurer.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: keithfre on October 20, 2013, 06:13:09 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on October 20, 2013, 05:18:09 PM
Just started watching the BBC2 programme on the Flying Scotsman, with Mrs "H" sitting down with me. Started raining and have lost all channels.

:veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

Don't fret, available on i-player soon!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: cycletrak9 on October 20, 2013, 06:53:31 PM
It amazes me that Sky can provide hundreds of channels, HD, 3D, instant replays, recording and playback, TV on your mobile etc, etc but they can't make their dishes waterproof. 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on October 20, 2013, 07:03:03 PM
QuoteStarted raining and have lost all channels.

Good excuse to get on with some modelling and give Mrs H a Metcalfe  kit to make up  (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-fc/whistling.gif)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: keithfre on October 20, 2013, 07:13:44 PM
Quote from: cycletrak9 on October 20, 2013, 06:53:31 PM
can't make their dishes waterproof.
Have you tried tupperware <GDR> (sorry, couldn't resist)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 20, 2013, 07:43:03 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on October 20, 2013, 05:18:09 PM
Just started watching the BBC2 programme on the Flying Scotsman, with Mrs "H" sitting down with me. Started raining and have lost all channels.

:veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

say something nice to mrs H, she'll become happy / sunny and stop raining -- channels back  :thumbsup: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on October 20, 2013, 10:24:13 PM
Quote from: cycletrak9 on October 20, 2013, 06:53:31 PM
It amazes me that Sky can provide hundreds of channels, HD, 3D, instant replays, recording and playback, TV on your mobile etc, etc but they can't make their dishes waterproof.
Trying to work out if you're serious ...  ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pete Mc on October 21, 2013, 12:16:14 AM
I've had satellite tv for some 16 years now so I know what you're talking about.I got the old analogue Sky back in 1997/8 then when they launched Sky Digital I was one of the first to sign up for it.Then in 2009,I upgraded to Sky HD+.As a long term user of Sky,what I do know is this,I only lose signal whenbits absolutely bucketing it down outside although it occasionally doesn't seem as though it is,if its raining torrentially in the direction the dish is facing,that makes a difference as well and it doesn't usually last for very long either.

Of all the channels that are on the Sky box,it seems as though the terrestrial broadcasters have the strongest signal which I find a bit odd because as its Sky,on a Sky box,you'd bet that the Sky channels would have the strongest signal.

Don't know why nor am I that bothered why it is but thats how it seems anyway.

Pete
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Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on October 21, 2013, 09:07:08 AM
Quote from: Pete Mc on October 21, 2013, 12:16:14 AM
if its raining torrentially in the direction the dish is facing,that makes a difference as well and it doesn't usually last for very long either.
As someone who has had this stuff since it came out waaaaay back (I dread to think when :o !!!  I think we had a 16-channel receiver, even though there were only 4 (?) available at that point) this isn't news; but I can say that things have improved with possible the transmission but definitely the reception since the early days.

In a nutshell ... just like a tree growing up into the path of the signal can cause you disruption, so can weather when it rains hard somewhere in the signal path; it disburses the signal, initially causing the "sparklies" and (if the weather continues to deteriorate in the path) up to a total loss of signal.  Technological advances have meant that the receivers can cope with bad weather (hence we don't often see "sparklies" anymore, or lose signals very often), but truly awful weather still defeats it.

Not a lot you can do ... especially now terrestrial has gone  :(

Mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Michael Hendle on October 21, 2013, 11:16:58 AM
 :hellosign:
A light hearted angry  :veryangry2: :censored:,:help:how do I get the screw loose from underneath a n gauge Oxford Morris Minor van,the screw is so tight my screw driver won't shift it, :veryangry:I had a Morris Minor traveller by Oxford and the screw was loose enough to unscrew,looks like it will be a hacksaw job

Mike :NGaugersRule: :A1Tornado: Mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on October 21, 2013, 11:29:14 AM
Quote from: Michael Hendle on October 21, 2013, 11:16:58 AM
:hellosign:
A light hearted angry  :veryangry2: :censored:,:help:how do I get the screw loose from underneath a n gauge Oxford Morris Minor van,the screw is so tight my screw driver won't shift it, :veryangry:I had a Morris Minor traveller by Oxford and the screw was loose enough to unscrew,looks like it will be a hacksaw job

Mike :NGaugersRule: :A1Tornado: Mike

You could try placing the tip of a hot soldering iron on the head of the screw for a few seconds then try your screwdriver again, or plunge the Morris Minor into hot water for a few seconds then try your screwdriver again.

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on October 21, 2013, 11:30:39 AM
Quote from: Michael Hendle on October 21, 2013, 11:16:58 AM
:hellosign:
,looks like it will be a hacksaw job

Mike :NGaugersRule: :A1Tornado:Mike
Assuming it is a x head screw, sometimes cutting a slot in the top with a junior hacksaw and turning it into a slot head, then using a bigger screwdriver so you can get more purchase will work. Likely to cause less damage to the vehicle than trying to hack off the screw.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: beestie on October 21, 2013, 11:32:57 AM
the flaming rain is stopping progress ! PLease stop!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Michael Hendle on October 21, 2013, 11:34:22 AM
Thanks for the tips,on how to get a screw loose

Mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on October 21, 2013, 11:47:39 AM
Quote from: Michael Hendle on October 21, 2013, 11:34:22 AM
Thanks for the tips,on how to get a screw loose

Mike

I've had one of those for years (apparently) but don't know how I did it!  :wave:

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on October 21, 2013, 11:55:15 AM
Quote from: daveg on October 21, 2013, 11:47:39 AM
Quote from: Michael Hendle on October 21, 2013, 11:34:22 AM
Thanks for the tips,on how to get a screw loose

Mike

I've had one of those for years (apparently) but don't know how I did it!  :wave:

Dave G

:laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on October 21, 2013, 11:59:20 AM
An old airframe engineers trick (told to me by an old airframe engineer) if a screw or bolt wont loosen off, try just tightening it up a little first (just a nip), that sometimes is enough to 'break the seal' then it should undo okay.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Michael Hendle on October 21, 2013, 12:13:14 PM
Hi

:bounce: I managed to get the screw undone first hacked the plinth off,then with a pair of pliers on the screw I rotated the van anti clockwise,and the screw came out  :thankyousign: all :beers: to all

Now to find a reason why a British Caladonian Airways van is  in a goods yard in North Cornwall

Mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on October 21, 2013, 03:19:24 PM
QuoteNow to find a reason why a British Caladonian Airways van is  in a goods yard in North Cornwall

Maybe it just flew in?  (Guards van - Vanguard)

I'll get me coat
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on October 21, 2013, 03:39:18 PM
Quote from: Michael Hendle on October 21, 2013, 12:13:14 PM
Now to find a reason why a British Caladonian Airways van is  in a goods yard in North Cornwall

Mike

It is a well known fact the Cornish are proficient smugglers  :D

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on October 21, 2013, 03:58:45 PM
Have you tried tightening it, then loosening ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Michael Hendle on October 21, 2013, 04:06:38 PM
Hi,Mike

I was thinking going Boeing with British Overdue Airways Corporation(I first started working for them in 1964) B.O.A.C,

Talking about smuggling,my Dad said they used to go down to the beach first thing every morning to see what had been washed in from the Atlantic.

Dad said there was always stuff there,from ships sunk by U Boats.What they were looking for was tinned food and bottles of Drink,the food was to supplement their food rationing or sell to the locals.

Mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on October 21, 2013, 07:39:04 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on October 20, 2013, 05:18:09 PM
Just started watching the BBC2 programme on the Flying Scotsman, with Mrs "H" sitting down with me. Started raining and have lost all channels.

:veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

That "started raining" continued until 6:00 am this morning with the worst thunderstorms I have ever encountered.
This morning the railway room (cellar) had realistic water flowing through it and our village was cut off due to numerous landslides. A small road that I use for the circular dog walk has collapsed into the valley probably never to be reopened.
At least I can watch TV again today....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: wentzeljr on October 21, 2013, 09:37:47 PM
Quote from: findus on March 31, 2011, 01:49:39 PM
Wedding plans  >:( >:( >:(  is there ever going to be any end to the cost?

the worst part is im paying and the only thing i get out of this is a new ball and chain  ???

When my daughter was married, I asked my wife what it cost and she told me I didn't want to know. Probably correct. 8)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 21, 2013, 10:19:06 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on October 21, 2013, 07:39:04 PM
A small road that I use for the circular dog walk has collapsed into the valley probably never to be reopened.
At least I can watch TV again today....

At least you weren't on the road at the time...

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on October 21, 2013, 10:41:12 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on October 21, 2013, 07:39:04 PM
A small road that I use for the circular dog walk has collapsed into the valley probably never to be reopened.

Do you have a photograph of this circular dog Jerry?

It must walk in a roundabout sort of way  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on October 22, 2013, 12:52:14 AM
Oh, for it to be raining! We are in a major bushfire crisis where I live!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pete Mc on October 22, 2013, 01:19:31 AM
Well,new update on my little situation.

Today,I managed to speak to my insurers who have told me that the phone number on my insurance certificate isn't the correct one and that buried in the paperwork is an 0800 number!

Next,having gone through all the stuff with a call handler I was then passed onto the personal car insurance claims dept.Again a big exclamaition mark!

Now the news is not brilliant but all I'm entitled to as far as a courtesy or hire car is concerned is a 48hr emergency hire.This is neither use nor ornament to me as I need something to tide me over until a decision is made with regards to mine,which I reckon will be written off.One possible indication of this is when the recovery agent collected the car from the scene of the crash,he told me it was going to a salvage yard.The insurance company never told me this.

They told me it would be recovered for assessment.The only time I would be entitled to a courtesy car is if they decide to repair but due to the cars value,age etc,they will most likely just pay me out.

Another thing,the insurers told me to ask the police to supply me details of the other vehicle involved,which due to data protection,they could not do.The police then directed me to speak to the insurers and tell them to ring the South Yorkshire Police to obtain these details.I did this and do you know what,its not company policy to do this!

I think this whole debacle might go on a bit.

So much for my hope of a quick,efficient and speedy settlement.

Pete
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Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on October 22, 2013, 01:49:07 AM
Pete, I don't really want to add to your woes, but it has been my lifelong experience with insurance companies that they will crawl around on their stomachs to find any little loophole they can to wriggle through to get out of coughing up.

Stick in there, mate - don't take any you-know-what from them. :thumbsup:

George
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 22, 2013, 09:37:32 AM
Hate to say it, Pete, but George sums insurance companies up :thumbsup:
When someone ran into the back of my car they took the position I was making a claim and so removed all my NCB and multiplied my premium x 5 until finally the guy fessed up with court proceedings threatened (1 year later). It still, however, appears on my paperwork as a 3rd party claim :veryangry:
When someone hit my mum's car all she did was call the insurance company to check what her excess was and they did exactly the same to her, even though she made no claim! That took 6 months to resolve (she paid for the repairs herself).
I know you don't want to hear this but they will find any which way they can to screw you :thumbsdown: Good luck, my friend
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on October 22, 2013, 10:24:16 AM

What is it with manufacturers when it comes to supplying anything from the 70's/80's??

No one produces any vehicles from this era, no one seems to be producing Military Figures from this period either. It's as if its the time period that people want to forget!!!

I know there were political issues in this era, and the whole country was on a bit of a downer, but come on for cripes sake, there are some of us that were children of the 70's/80's and surely we need to be able to model that period.

Not all of us want to model steam/diesel transition, or purely steam era, or ultra modern. I was born in the mid 60's and can't remember steam live on the network. But I was around for post TOPS, BR Blue period and this is what I want to model with the relevant vehicles.

Right of me soapbox now, calmed down a bit (I have had a Snickers)  :D :D

Regards

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on October 22, 2013, 10:32:39 AM
Quote from: Calnefoxile on October 22, 2013, 10:24:16 AM


there are some of us that were children of the 70's/80's and surely we need to be able to model that period.

Right of me soapbox now, calmed down a bit (I have had a Snickers)  :D :D

Regards

Neal.

Snickers?          Surely as a 70's child that should have been a MARATHON.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on October 22, 2013, 10:34:54 AM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on October 22, 2013, 10:32:39 AM
Snickers?          Surely as a 70's child that should have been a MARATHON.

Jerry,

You're right, but I was referring to the advert with Joan Collins in it.  ;D ;D

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on October 22, 2013, 10:37:40 AM
Quote from: Calnefoxile on October 22, 2013, 10:34:54 AM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on October 22, 2013, 10:32:39 AM
Snickers?          Surely as a 70's child that should have been a MARATHON.

Jerry,

You're right, but I was referring to the advert with Joan Collins in it.  ;D ;D

Neal.


Well it is good to know you smell nice  :D

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: petercharlesfagg on October 22, 2013, 10:59:25 AM
Some time ago I purchased a new Alco locomotive on Ebay from a private seller.

A piece of the coupling mount was missing and I contacted Micro Trains who went beyond the call of duty and sent me the piece free of charge.

................................................................".........................................................

Anyway, now that Autumn/Winter is upon us I was intending to sit at my workbench and go through my rolling stock and do the necessary repairs in the warm of my home.

All well and good!

I took out the tiny piece of plastic in my tweezers and attempted to slot it into my locomotive, "TWING" and the piece shot out of my tweezers across the room and straight into the open mouth of my dog!!!!

Before I could rescue the piece it had suffered the combination of fangs and saliva that reduced it to shards!  It tasted so horrible that the dog actually spat it out but there is no way I can possibly use it now!!!!!!

:'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 22, 2013, 11:08:55 AM
Sorry, Peter, but once again you've made me laugh out loud at your misfortune :sorrysign:

I guess it was better than waiting 24 hours and then sifting.............no, better not go there :poop: :sick:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on October 22, 2013, 11:30:35 AM
With Nobby on this one Peter. I think it should be in the jokes section made me laugh but then turned around to make sure my dogs were not advancing on my latest card model with looks of abject hunger....

Hopefully you can write to them and get a sympathetic replacement, it should make them laugh as well.

Jerry
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dock Shunter on October 22, 2013, 11:45:07 AM
Quote from: petercharlesfagg on October 22, 2013, 10:59:25 AM
"TWING" and the piece shot out of my tweezers across the room and straight into the open mouth of my dog!!!!

I bet you couldn't do it again..... :D


As Jerry says give Micro Trains another ring and tell them what happened.I am sure they would love to hear and would send you another replacement..... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 22, 2013, 12:09:32 PM
Quote from: Pete Mc on October 22, 2013, 01:19:31 AM
So much for my hope of a quick,efficient and speedy settlement.

Keep a written record of everything they ask you to do and then say they won't do. Remind them that you'll take it up with the ombudsman the moment if they continue to act in an incompetent manner. The police should give you the crime number btw - which you'll want in case you have to engage the no-win no-fee people to sort it out.

And raise the ask the police/we don't call the police thing with them as a formal complaint. Insurance companies keep their costs down by employing the cheapest people as possible and setting things up to be as hard as possible to bother claiming. They know a motorist has to have insurance so you have to pay them, they don't want to give any of that back.

Make the b*ggers eyes water and if its like one Telco I worked at there is often even an "awkward customer" flag in the database which is well worth having !

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pete Mc on October 22, 2013, 11:28:28 PM
Hi everyone,just another update on my tal of woe.Only this time its slightly better,though not much.

Today I received a letter from my victim liason officer at South Yorkshire Police.The content of the letter was to tell me how the case against doorhandlehead that smashed my car up on friday night was proceeding.

The letter said that he had been charged with drink/drive,driving while disqualified,driving without 3rd party insurance on a road/public place and aggravated vehicle taking-(initial taker) and property damage under £5,000.
He admitted these charges and was remanded in custody until yesterday morning where he appeared at Doncaster Magistrates Court.

The letter then went on to state that he pleaded guilty to all charges and was sentenced to 18 weeks in prison and banned from driving for 5 years.This relates to the drink/drive,he was given 18 weeks for the driving whilst disqualified part of the charges as well.He was also given an 18 week prison sentence for aggravated vehicle taking and a ban for a year.As for the driving without insurance is concerned,he got an endorsement on his licence which I assume will apply upon reapplying for his licence and must undergo an extended driving test to prove competence to drive.The 18 week sentences are to run concurrently but if you ask me they should run consequitively.That way it would've been a 54 week sentence.

It did state that he may appeal against the sentence,however there are few appeals against sentence and he has 21 days to do so.They have pledged to let me know if he appeals but truthfully,apart from appearing at his appeal hearing and stating what his stupidity has meant to me,I have no idea what the point would be in doing so but all the same,I'd be happy to come face to face with him and tell him,in front of a judge at crown court how he has disrupted my life and caused me the expense it is likely to cause.

Now I know that fortunately,no one was injured in this accident and that metal and plastic can be repaired/replaced,what it doesn't and cannot replace is the inconvenience to me,which cannot be costed up or charged for.

Now I have to sit and wait for a decision from my insurers so I can know how much I have to spend on a replacement which I wasn't planning for for around a year to 18 months.That is how long my next car has to last me but even so,I don't want an old banger.

What I am looking at buying is a similar car to the one I have,a Skoda Octavia 1.9TDI,or a VW Passat Estate 1.9TDI,Golf 1.9TDIor Seat Leon 1.9TDI.

I like the Volkswagen TDI engine so thats why it has to be one of these 4 models.They are that good you see.

Well,thats all for now and I feel a bit better for knowing that someone has paid the price for their idiocy.

Pete
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Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on October 23, 2013, 12:31:04 AM
At least a slight bit of good news, the lowlife has been dealt with, though I'm sure he'll be back on the streets
within weeks, at least you got a response from the police. This country is plagued by these scumbags and
despite guff from politicians,  Joe Public suffers from these reptiles.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pete Mc on October 23, 2013, 01:21:26 AM
This was pretty much a slamdunk for the police though wasn't it?

The bloke was held at the scene until they arrived(forceably),so there was really only going to be one conclusion.

The surprising thing to me was the reaction of the local residents.Now I only live about 10 minutes drive away from the scene providing the level crossing barriers aren't down(east coast mainline to Edinburgh so its a busy crossing) and around a 25 minute walk(timed on monday due to having to meet the car's recovery truck driver to hand over the car keys) so its not like I don't know the area,but for one bloke to do what he did in order to detain him is very public spirited.

I know in the past there have been similar incidents so I suppose that generally,a community spirit is alive and kicking in Arksey,Doncaster.Also,there are families with kids as well and even though its the main road from Barnby Dun to Arksey and Bentley,it is a busy one too so this may be a motive factor too.

Like I say,with this case,there was going to be a conviction of some form and this just,to me anyway,enforces the confidence I have with South Yorkshire Police and the hard work they do.

I wouldn't do their job for a gold pig,then again,any police officer probably wouldn't do mine either.

Pete
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Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on October 23, 2013, 02:11:17 AM
Well, it's a result of sorts, Pete.

Lowlife and punishments not fitting the crime are common here at the Antipodes too, don't you worry. Three years ago a very, very close friend of mine was assaulted at a bus stop here in my home town. A huge piece of his skull had to be removed to drain the blood,he was in an induced coma and came very close to death. He carried that piece of skull around in his abdomen for nearly 12 months before they could put it back into place.

He has lost some faculties (not too many, fortunately), but has a major walking problem because of the injury. He missed his daughter's wedding in Europe, and obviously cannot work again - in short his life has been ruined.

The guy who did this was apprehended, and appeared before the court on several occasions. His punishment? Eighteen months good behaviour bond and he is walking the local streets as I write this.

Justice, Aussie style.

As you say, Pete, it could have been worse. But I still wish you all the best with the insurance. I think that Alan's advice above is very sound.

Keep us posted, buddy. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Michael Hendle on October 23, 2013, 10:12:16 AM
Hi
Pete I think the sentence he got is a joke 18 weeks,should be at least 18 months probably more,as for the disqualification,well as we have seen he won't a blind bit of notice of that.

The best sentence would have been imprisonment for the length of the driving ban,that way he has no chance of driving while disqualified.

I hope the insurance pay up soon so as you can get back to normal,re cars I have a SEAT Altea ecomotive,a really nice car,and as I'm disabled it higher off the ground,ae SEAT are part of the VW group it has a Volkswagen Diesel engine,and some of the other parts are Audi.

Mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 23, 2013, 12:08:58 PM
The law deals only with punishment for the crime. It doesn't usually prevent you recovering you financial losses from the retard in question if he has any assets. So if you've got travel costs, insurance hits etc it can be worth talking to the no win no fee vultures. They do have a social purpose even if the law needs changing a bit to keep them vulturing causes that are worth it not small slips on pavements.

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 23, 2013, 01:54:33 PM
I would usually shy away from those vultures, but in this case I agree wholeheartedly with EP - let the vultures loose on that piece of carrion >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: REGP on October 23, 2013, 06:15:20 PM
Pete

I agree with EP & Nobby, trying the no fee route is certainly worth a punt, BUT ONLY IF he has any money or assets that can be realised.

Ray
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 23, 2013, 06:59:57 PM
and if the insurer doesn't ask him to go that path anyway - which they may choose to do themselves.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pete Mc on October 23, 2013, 08:07:35 PM
Thanks chaps,that might not be a bad idea.

Although as he is unemployed I expect he'll have a 50"telly hanging on his living room wall along with xbox,ps3 and other gadgety stuff,just like the rest of them.

At the moment,the only expense that'll be run up is the £100 excess on my policy,but I have been assured that this will be taken up by my uninsured losses policy whereby uninsured losses can be claimed upto £250,000.
I could've used this to hire a car in the meantime but as I am trying to amass as much money for a replacement car,this would've significantly affected my ability to do so.

Pete
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Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on October 29, 2013, 07:12:35 PM
One of the fans in the PSU of my CCTV DVR is making a terrible racket.  I've opened up the DVR and cleaned it all but it still carries on.  £55 for a whole PSU when I just need a £5 or £10 fan.  Argh! >:(  I've contacted a 'Dedicated Micros' dealer to see what they say.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on October 29, 2013, 07:49:26 PM
Tank what size is the fan, you can buy lots of computer fans in differing sizes from scan or many other computer suppliers.
http://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/all/coolers-air/system-case-fans-120mm-130mm (http://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/all/coolers-air/system-case-fans-120mm-130mm)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 29, 2013, 11:46:22 PM
It's not even Halloween and the council have just put up the *christmas* decorations.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: CF-FZG on October 30, 2013, 12:43:11 AM
Quote from: REGP on October 23, 2013, 06:15:20 PM
BUT ONLY IF he has any money or assets that can be realised.

Naaaahhh, go after him for your excess, costs etc. anyway - he'll be required to pay.  Then you take him to small claims for the money, if he then can't pay - you can ask the court to recover the money for you or have him declared bankrupt. 
As an undischarged bankrupt, the bank can restrict or even close his account.  Where's his benefits going to be paid now >:D  and as a bankrupt, he's what's known as 'boogered*' financially - until you lift the bankruptcy.

* - a legal term  :)

N.B. a friend did something similar a few years back when two kids caused £3k worth of damage to his car - and one of them couldn't get a job because he needed a bank account to be paid - daddy soon paid up at that point :thumbsup:

N.B.2  Subject to current legal advice
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on October 30, 2013, 09:01:36 AM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on October 29, 2013, 11:46:22 PM
It's not even Halloween and the council have just put up the *christmas* decorations.
They're a bit slow ... ours have been up in town for 4 weeks or so ...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on October 30, 2013, 09:21:16 AM
I'm fed up of the NHS deciding treatment for people on the cost of such treatment.

Was watching the news this morning and it looks like drop in shelters are to be made available for heroin addicts to shoot up in safety,but what made me really angry was the statement that the NHS would provide the heroin for them to use.

Bit like alcoholics that can claim money to buy booze with.

Also really angry that the woman in charge of the Baby P fiasco is getting £600,000 for failing to do her job properly and letting a baby die :veryangry:

Dunno how this rewarding people for failure culture has come about,about time common sense prevailed.

I'd like to know what law I can break or damage I can cause that will get me thousands of pounds in a payout.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on October 30, 2013, 09:28:19 AM
Quote from: Bikeracer on October 30, 2013, 09:21:16 AM

... about time common sense prevailed.

Sorry, common sense was abolished in the 1980s ::) ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MinZaPint on October 30, 2013, 09:31:43 AM
As an old farmer mate said "Trouble be common sense baint be as common as it used to be"  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 30, 2013, 02:37:49 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on October 30, 2013, 09:21:16 AM
I'm fed up of the NHS deciding treatment for people on the cost of such treatment.

Thats easily fixed. Just double your taxes 8)

Quote
Was watching the news this morning and it looks like drop in shelters are to be made available for heroin addicts to shoot up in safety,but what made me really angry was the statement that the NHS would provide the heroin for them to use.

This has worked in other countries extremely well although I believe its not heroin they get in either case but a substitute (methadone) which is used to help get them off it.

It reduces crime, and takes a lot of money out of the organised criminals pockets so it's cheaper. There is a reason almost every senior police and crime person is in favour of it.

Think of it instead as cutting NHS and policing bills while reducing crime and taking money out of the pockets of dealers  :P

Quote
Bit like alcoholics that can claim money to buy booze with.

In some cases alcohol is indeed available on prescription. Mostly though its to things like little old ladies with alzheimers while they are in the "departure lounge"


Quote
Also really angry that the woman in charge of the Baby P fiasco is getting £600,000 for failing to do her job properly and letting a baby die :veryangry:

Or you could read the 2011 judgement instead of the Daily Wail. She is getting compensation because Ed Balls and his advisors screwed up an because she was in the words of the actual judge "unfairly scapegoated", and "unlawfully dismissed".

In other words she didn't let the baby die, she was just a convenient person at the top for the minister in charge to blame it all on. What does stink is that Ed Ballsup made the mess in central government but the local council are having to pay the costs of his mess.

Quote
Dunno how this rewarding people for failure culture has come about,about time common sense prevailed.

I'd like to know what law I can break or damage I can cause that will get me thousands of pounds in a payout.

I think you'll find you have to be wrongfully accused or punished rather than actually offending. At least for the most part. So all you have to do is do your job properly, have something really bad happen regardless of that, get fired by an incompetent in government, have your employer fight it in court for years and then loose.

Note that you need to be doing the right thing. Screwing up the mail, costing the NHS £11billion in cancelled IT projects or blowing rail privatisation gets you a knighthood not fired  :veryangry:


Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on October 30, 2013, 03:21:34 PM
The drop in centres running in Copenhagen (BBC News) dole out a mix of heroin and other drugs, but not methadone. It has got most of the users off the streets, so no heaps of syringes littering parks and playgrounds. In the Uk, methadone users clog up chemists (usually making me wait longer for my prescription), while they are called into a back room and given a dose.
An obese mate of mine was given a prescription for gym membership, so I am sure you can get a prescription for anything nowadays.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NeMo on October 30, 2013, 03:30:59 PM
Quote from: MinZaPint on October 30, 2013, 09:31:43 AM
As an old farmer mate said "Trouble be common sense baint be as common as it used to be"  ;)

Can't top EtchedPixels's masterful reply above (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=659.msg171895#msg171895). But I will observe that we live in a scientific, technological age, and if there's one thing we need be cautious about, it's common sense.

A good example is why two stores of the same sort open next to each other. The common sense thing to do would be to open your store far away from your competitors, so that you don't compete. But the rational thing to do is to open your store next door to your competitor. It's something to do with game theory, and how next door to each other each retailer actually gets a better chance of making a sale than if they were far apart. Not an expert, so won't try to explain further!

If you don't already listen to "More or Less" on Radio 4 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qshd), then give it a try. It's about statistics and how they are used (and abused) in media, politics and economics. It's a nice antidote to that silly statement that statistics can prove anything -- they can't (obviously) but an inappropriate statistic can be used to (very easily) mislead someone who doesn't understand how statistics works, and this of course happens all the time when politicians and journalists are trying to persuade us about something.

Cheers, NeMo
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on November 06, 2013, 09:00:07 PM
Some time back, I bought a pack of replacement fibreglass tips, and put them somewhere safe until I needed them ...

Tonight, I wanted to clean up some brass parts I soldered a while back before attaching them to the next part of the sub-assembly; old fibreglass pencil was expired, so went looking for the replacements ...

... and looking ...

... and looking ...

''' and got SWMBO looking too ...

I'll be  :censored: if we can find the  :veryangry2: things !!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on November 06, 2013, 09:09:58 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on November 06, 2013, 09:00:07 PM
and put them somewhere safe

That was your mistake ;)

They'll either turn up ONLY when you're looking for something else, or they'll never be seen again :D


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 06, 2013, 09:20:46 PM
They're more likely to appear as soon as you've bought another set ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GeeBee on November 06, 2013, 09:23:58 PM
Yep that's guaranteed  :veryangry:  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on November 06, 2013, 10:55:05 PM
Ain't that the truth ...

I did think "it'll be the last place I look - try there first !" but it didn't work ...  :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on November 07, 2013, 07:12:53 AM
It always IS in the last place you look if you think about it ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on November 07, 2013, 09:07:11 AM
Well it wasn't yesterday - as I say, I checked there first !  :smackedface:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on November 14, 2013, 05:00:19 PM
Totally *******************************ed off.
Just had my weekly choccy fix and have managed to break one of my teeth.
Dentist cannot fit me in till Monday so will be bulk buying painkillers  I think.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 14, 2013, 07:38:49 PM
Wasn't a Toblerone, was it Mike ???
Hope you can get through till Monday
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on November 14, 2013, 07:49:48 PM
No not the triangular beast.
Was a Milky Way.
Still got the Raisin and Biscuit Yorkie sitting in the cupboard.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on November 14, 2013, 08:05:44 PM
How can you break a tooth on a Milky Way? Did you get one straight from the freezer?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on November 14, 2013, 09:47:16 PM
Forgot to mention it was deep fried. :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ozzie Bill. on November 15, 2013, 06:17:01 AM
try rubbing oil of cloves around the area, that can help. otherwise, pour neat whisky over the tonsils, past the epiglottis and into the stomach. Bill.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on November 23, 2013, 11:07:14 AM
Tooth sorted but now halfway through my first course this winter of Amoxicillin.
Doctor even gave me a backup perscription in case I need more( also on repeat) :help:



Items on repeat now up to 7
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 23, 2013, 06:04:50 PM
Shake, rattle and roll :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 25, 2013, 09:34:31 PM
I suppose the good news (in this thread??) is that new people have moved in next door (semi detached bungalow) so at least some heat will be coming from that side rather than damp & cold, working on the basis they will be running some heating, of course ::)

The bad news is..........boy, are they bloody noisy. They are knocking the place about a bit and you can't make an omelette without breaking eggs so some lassitude is being given, but I think carrying on after 10pm is a bit much. They obviously don't know what the turny thing on doors is for as all I hear is slamming doors. Evidently they are hard of hearing going by the volume they speak at :veryangry:

Still, it's not as if I sleep too well with a bad hip/knee and I do like to play my music very loud so they have had a good dose of Cream thus far tonight and I have some tasty stuff lined up for the wee small hours >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on November 25, 2013, 09:51:09 PM
I have found that new neighbours will take a few weeks of being noisy till they settle in, but they should stop and start at a reasonable hour.  As for door slammers, I have never found a way of getting them to stop that  :'(

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on November 25, 2013, 11:16:06 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on November 25, 2013, 09:51:09 PM
I have found that new neighbours will take a few weeks of being noisy till they settle in, but they should stop and start at a reasonable hour.  As for door slammers, I have never found a way of getting them to stop that  :'(

cheers John.

Those little kiddies exploding snaps taped to the doorframe in groups.

Humm where is the innocent whistling smiley face



Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on December 04, 2013, 03:37:09 PM
Got round to sorting out a few thingies I need for Ruleoneshire and decided to order them tomorrow. :)
Went to the dentist this morning and explained during the routine check-up that I was getting problems with tender teeth since he extracted one a while back. Reason he gave was I am now closing my remaining teeth onto new areas and jarring the teeth
Cure  :doh: dentures  :(
Cost  :'( :'( £214  :'(  :'(  :'(
Railway items list now confined to the trash can bin next year  >:( >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mr bachmann on December 04, 2013, 03:57:53 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on November 25, 2013, 09:34:31 PM
Still, it's not as if I sleep too well with a bad hip/knee and I do like to play my music very loud so they have had a good dose of Cream thus far tonight and I have some tasty stuff lined up for the wee small hours >:D

Cream is no good , whats needed is a session of Argo Transacord records , 'Trains from Tyne Dock' will knock the 9F's out of them , for starters  :D

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 04, 2013, 04:11:33 PM
Quote from: jonclox on December 04, 2013, 03:37:09 PM
Got round to sorting out a few thingies I need for Ruleoneshire and decided to order them tomorrow. :)
Went to the dentist this morning and explained during the routine check-up that I was getting problems with tender teeth since he extracted one a while back. Reason he gave was I am now closing my remaining teeth onto new areas and jarring the teeth
Cure  :doh: dentures  :(
Cost  :'( :'( £214  :'(  :'(  :'(
Railway items list now confined to the trash can bin next year  >:( >:(

:o :o
Hope you're not gnashing your teeth at that result!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on December 04, 2013, 04:20:04 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on December 04, 2013, 04:11:33 PM
Quote from: jonclox on December 04, 2013, 03:37:09 PM
Got round to sorting out a few thingies I need for Ruleoneshire and decided to order them tomorrow. :)
Went to the dentist this morning and explained during the routine check-up that I was getting problems with tender teeth since he extracted one a while back. Reason he gave was I am now closing my remaining teeth onto new areas and jarring the teeth
Cure  :doh: dentures  :(
Cost  :'( :'( £214  :'(  :'(  :'(
Railway items list now confined to the trash can bin next year  >:( >:(

Hope you're not gnashing your teeth at that result!
Twas the gnashing of teeth that's caused the problem during the last few weeks  :( :( :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: FeelixTC on December 04, 2013, 04:31:12 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on November 25, 2013, 09:51:09 PM
I have found that new neighbours will take a few weeks of being noisy till they settle in .............


Run them for an hour in each direction?  ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 04, 2013, 09:15:44 PM
Quote from: FeelixTC on December 04, 2013, 04:31:12 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on November 25, 2013, 09:51:09 PM
I have found that new neighbours will take a few weeks of being noisy till they settle in .............


Run them for an hour in each direction?  ::)

I think an hour or so of a vinyl recording of Britannia Oliver Cromwell at full chat has done the trick >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GeeBee on December 04, 2013, 09:46:25 PM
Quote from: mr bachmann on December 04, 2013, 03:57:53 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on November 25, 2013, 09:34:31 PM
Still, it's not as if I sleep too well with a bad hip/knee and I do like to play my music very loud so they have had a good dose of Cream thus far tonight and I have some tasty stuff lined up for the wee small hours >:D

Cream is no good , whats needed is a session of Argo Transacord records , 'Trains from Tyne Dock' will knock the 9F's out of them , for starters  :D

I've got a great recording of an English Electric Lightning F-6 doing a Mach 1 fly by in stereo that should do it.
Graham
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 14, 2013, 09:31:44 PM
Is it bloody Windows Update Week or something ???
I've been getting their updates nearly every day this week. On one day there were 10 of the blighters, just on the evening when I thought I'd shut down the laptop and have an early night. Then, of course, when you next start up the damned things have to be configured :goggleeyes:
Grrrrrr :veryangry: :computerangry: :computerangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on December 14, 2013, 09:44:12 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on December 14, 2013, 09:31:44 PM
Is it bloody Windows Update Week or something ???
I've been getting their updates nearly every day this week. On one day there were 10 of the blighters, just on the evening when I thought I'd shut down the laptop and have an early night. Then, of course, when you next start up the damned things have to be configured :goggleeyes:
Grrrrrr :veryangry: :computerangry: :computerangry:

I had 16 updates the other night, I switch off the screen and speakers then the computer will switch itself off after they are installed.  You should not have to configure anything after an update.

What do you find you are having to do after the updates?

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RST on December 14, 2013, 09:46:36 PM
I haven't had many updates.  But Windows 8.1 is driving me nuts. 8 was bad enough -if it weren't for the fact it took almost a full day for the laptop running the upgrade to 8.1 I'd just uninstall it.  I was a big windows fan, much less so these days.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on December 14, 2013, 10:03:41 PM
Quote from: RST on December 14, 2013, 09:46:36 PM
I haven't had many updates.  But Windows 8.1 is driving me nuts. 8 was bad enough -if it weren't for the fact it took almost a full day for the laptop running the upgrade to 8.1 I'd just uninstall it.  I was a big windows fan, much less so these days.

I have never had a problem with any Windows, I am on Windows 8.1 and it runs fine, I keep on top of my laptop by using Advanced System Care, delete all my temporary internet files and empty the cache, I also delete all my cookies as often as I can.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on December 14, 2013, 11:08:18 PM
I got a Windows 8.1 tablet (for the purpose of getting Linux running on it nicely). It's supposed to have this 6 second boot time - and it really does, except that half the time it's

boot in six seconds
installing updates
[45 minutes,2 reboots later]

Now my Android phone can upgrade entire OS releases in under a minute!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ParkeNd on December 14, 2013, 11:28:04 PM
You would all have really loved the update from iOS 6 to iOS 7 then.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RST on December 15, 2013, 12:12:09 AM
I don't have any faults with windows 8 / 8.1 -I just HATE the way it looks and works.  Bring back proper windows!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Komata on December 15, 2013, 08:08:05 AM
At last, a 'rant type' thread ( a very rare commodity indeed)

My current 'pet peeve' is Windows Indexing!!  I am currently nearing the end of writing a treatise on a now-extinct gold-mining company. and, because it requires it, have to compile an index. 

Windows indexing seemed to be the easiest and best, and seemed to be within my capabilities ( (and, even better, it was FREE!!). 

Free perhaps, but it has to be one of the most complicated pieces of programming I have ever experienced, with a very marked proclivity to be extremely case-sensitive, and to not actually tell you what the problem is; it leaves you to guess!! 


Let' just say that with 25 pages of indexes to go through and many duplications and 'unexplained' entries (about which I have to guess - as previously noted), progress has been slow - very slow.  Not good at all, and very demoralizing.

Unfortunately, even though they designed the programme,  the Microsoft people don't help very much -  their on-line help desk being unable to solve the various problems which this programme causes!!!  With no assistance from that quarter, it has now become a case of plodding-on and endeavouring to solve the problems one entry at a time.

In the old days all this was called 'character building'; these days its more realistically called 'somewhat inconvenient' - and VERY frustrating... It can make one just a little bit inclined towards being  :veryangry:

However, as I subscribe to the RAF's well-known motto, one continues on, knowing that one day...  (It's just taking a rather-long time).

Here endith the 'rant' - thanks for providing the opportunity to do so...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on December 15, 2013, 08:48:33 AM
All the constant updates and sitting around while everything was installed and configured and the need to run all the anti-this/anti that software was the main reason I decided to go to a Mac.

I do run Windows7 on a separate partition but it's not connected to the internet so it never downloads any patches or updates.The reason I use windows at all is to run some software that won't run on a Mac and I actually prefer using Windows print facility over the Mac.

Also after Microsoft locked me out of a nearly new XBox I really don't want to support Microsoft any more.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 15, 2013, 11:21:16 AM
Quote from: scotsoft on December 14, 2013, 09:44:12 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on December 14, 2013, 09:31:44 PM
Is it bloody Windows Update Week or something ???
I've been getting their updates nearly every day this week. On one day there were 10 of the blighters, just on the evening when I thought I'd shut down the laptop and have an early night. Then, of course, when you next start up the damned things have to be configured :goggleeyes:
Grrrrrr :veryangry: :computerangry: :computerangry:

I had 16 updates the other night, I switch off the screen and speakers then the computer will switch itself off after they are installed.  You should not have to configure anything after an update.

What do you find you are having to do after the updates?

cheers John.

I don't do anything as, as you say, the laptop shuts itself down when the updates are installed. However, the next time I turn the laptop on, it will not open to the login page until the updates have been configured (so sayeth the message). This can at times involve the laptop rebooting itself and then running through the percentages as it configures the updates. >:(
Oh, and I had another update when I shut down last night ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on December 15, 2013, 01:06:29 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on December 15, 2013, 11:21:16 AM
I don't do anything as, as you say, the laptop shuts itself down when the updates are installed. However, the next time I turn the laptop on, it will not open to the login page until the updates have been configured (so sayeth the message). This can at times involve the laptop rebooting itself and then running through the percentages as it configures the updates. >:(
Oh, and I had another update when I shut down last night ::)

I understand what you mean now  ;)
Yes, those reboots can be a bit of a pain especially if you need to do something urgent on the computer.

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: IanUK on December 15, 2013, 01:39:14 PM
I just disable Automatic Windows Updates in the Control Panel, and down load them manually when the computers not in use.

As for windows 8 & 8.1 well..its the biggest pile of *$!!. I hate the stupid message "Windows is not responding" well I know that you stupid pile of junk!!  :veryangry: :computerangry:



Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on December 15, 2013, 06:06:43 PM
If it weren't for Windows I probably wouldn't have the job I do  :P

Re the patches - they're once a month unless something really bad is found ...  That's it.  General updates to other things (virus updates, for example) are more frequent (daily sometimes) but it is all configurable ... 

Personally, I let the system flag to me so I can review all the updates before I approve/disapprove any; I don't trust "automatic" ... or Windows 8 come to that.  If I wanted a tablet experience, I'd buy a tablet ...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GeeBee on December 15, 2013, 06:07:25 PM
You think that's bad I've just had a 45 minute run around with Halifax online bank system culminating in a 25 minute phone call that got me precisely nowhere.  :veryangry: :poop:
Deep Joy  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on December 15, 2013, 06:07:41 PM
Dear gas people,
   thank you for drilling a large hole in the road outside our house at 6am on Sunday morning. I appreciate the effort you went to, hiring staff at difficult hours, paying overtime. It must have take great organisation to ensure that all the pneumatic drills were in full crescendo before 7am before they went off for breakfast.

:veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:


Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on December 15, 2013, 06:08:42 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on December 15, 2013, 06:06:43 PM
If I wanted a tablet experience, I'd buy a tablet ...

"They made me use Windows 8 at work, now I'm on tablets"

:beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on December 15, 2013, 06:25:36 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on December 15, 2013, 06:08:42 PM
"They made me use Windows 8 at work, now I'm on tablets"

:beers:

:laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on December 18, 2013, 12:27:11 PM

When are film & drama makers going to realise that any old  loco is not just a loco  :veryangry: :veryangry:

I refer to the drama that is being aired tonight and tomorrow by the BBC all about the Great Train Robbery, if you watch this article from the BBC News, about Yorkshire being the most popular place in Britain for film and drama makers, http://www.bbc.co.uk (http://www.bbc.co.uk)...t-arts-25397015 you will see a very smart looking 37075 in Green on the Keighley & Worth Valley Railway, unfortunately this loco is the one used as the loco that hauled the Postal Service that got robbed, when in fact it was a Class 40 D326.

Why can't researchers do they flaming job properly and carry out research...... It's not difficult these days to find out exactly what the correct type and/or number was involved.

Right off me soapbox again.

Regards

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on December 18, 2013, 12:48:34 PM
That's a minor gripe...in "The Day of the Jackal" the Jackal boards a train for Paris hauled by a diesel loco, when it arrives in Paris it's electric hauled. That's the magic of the movies. :D

PS Ronnie Biggs has died.............good b*****  riddance.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on December 18, 2013, 02:35:50 PM
Quote from: Agrippa on December 18, 2013, 12:48:34 PM
PS Ronnie Biggs has died.............good b*****  riddance.
Seconded!

At least on this mornings BBC news they refered to the brutal beating of Driver Jack Mills and the fact that he never fully recovered, dying in Feb 1970.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on December 18, 2013, 04:08:12 PM
Quote from: Agrippa on December 18, 2013, 12:48:34 PM
PS Ronnie Biggs has died.............good b*****  riddance.

After living the good life abroad instead of doing the time for the crime,he should have been refused entry back into this country for his healthcare with the taxpayers paying the bill.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 18, 2013, 04:53:49 PM
Agree with Neal about the wrong loco being used, but I guess the issue in present times is being able to find the correct motive power for such historical incidents :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davieb on December 18, 2013, 05:12:44 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on December 18, 2013, 04:53:49 PM
Agree with Neal about the wrong loco being used, but I guess the issue in present times is being able to find the correct motive power for such historical incidents :hmmm:

They only needed to re-number D335 from the CFPS  :doh:

dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on December 18, 2013, 05:55:51 PM
Quote from: davieb on December 18, 2013, 05:12:44 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on December 18, 2013, 04:53:49 PM
Agree with Neal about the wrong loco being used, but I guess the issue in present times is being able to find the correct motive power for such historical incidents :hmmm:

They only needed to re-number D335 from the CFPS  :doh:

dave  :thumbsup:

Just using it would have been half right.......
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: B757-236GT on December 18, 2013, 06:22:09 PM
I believe some preservation groups were shy of getting involved with it so i suspect thats why a 37 was used.

Richard
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 18, 2013, 09:55:13 PM
Well, at least they renumbered it D326.
Shame they couldn't decide whether the line was single or double track so we got both :D
What the heck - overall it was an enjoyable watch historical differences apart.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davieb on December 19, 2013, 07:52:23 PM
This evening I have been air-brushing the main grey coat on my Coaling Tower
Spraying from a distance  :hmmm:.............................Why is this in the angry thread  ???

Because half way through I noticed the 4 Wagons I sprayed Bauxite last night
directly behind the Coaling Tower on my workbench  :doh:

They now have a lovely grey speckled effect  :veryangry2: :censored:

That's the last time I do any air-brushing straight after getting In from work  :zippedmouth:

dave  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dock Shunter on December 19, 2013, 08:15:53 PM
OOPs....... :smiley-laughing:

Should have gone to Specsavers Dave....... :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davieb on December 19, 2013, 08:26:43 PM
Quote from: Dock Shunter on December 19, 2013, 08:15:53 PM
OOPs....... :smiley-laughing:

Should have gone to Specsavers Dave....... :goggleeyes:

You may well laugh  :scowl:

But I'm also blaming you  :P
After all it was you that sent me the link on how to get a good concrete effect  >:D  :smiley-laughing:

dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: REGP on December 19, 2013, 08:27:23 PM
Cant you pass them of as the first stage of weathering Dave?

Ray
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davieb on December 19, 2013, 08:30:37 PM
Quote from: REGP on December 19, 2013, 08:27:23 PM
Cant you pass them of as the first stage of weathering Dave?

Ray

I could Ray  :hmmm:

But I haven't even put the Decals on yet  :doh:

dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on December 19, 2013, 08:48:51 PM
God take those merry gentlemen
and put them on a bus
I do not care where it goes
But make it far from us
To save us all from drunken wails
The vomit and the fuss

Oh tidings of humbug and woe
tidings of humbug and woe
Oh tidings of humbug and woe

Oh god those merry gentlemen
are singing in the street
They sound like sheep that are lost
A woeful whining bleat
I wish they'd learn to sing in tune
Or maybe keep the beat

Oh tidings of humbug and woe
tidings of humbug and woe
Oh tidings of humbug and woe

I wish those merry gentlemen
Were all put on a train
And sent to somewhere distant
And not let back again
I'd even pay the fares for some
To clear it from my brain

Oh tidings of humbug and woe
tidings of humbug and woe
Oh tidings of humbug and woe

God take those merry gentlemen
And guide them to a bar
Keeping them drinking all the night
So that they can't walk far
And we shall have a silent night
And no more mental scars

Oh tidings of humbug and woe
tidings of humbug and woe
Oh tidings of humbug and woe

Oh tidings of humbug and woe
tidings of humbug and woe
Oh tidings of humbug and woe

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on December 19, 2013, 11:02:47 PM
 :laughabovepost: :claphappy: 

Merry Christmas!

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on December 21, 2013, 03:58:03 AM
Woke up this morning 3 am with galloping gut rot it is making me double up, got in laws coming today as well.

:veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on December 21, 2013, 07:46:00 AM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on December 19, 2013, 08:48:51 PM
God take those merry gentlemen ...

On a more railway-related note:

God help those selfish gentlemen
At the railway show today
Come armed with oversize backpacks
To barge folk out the way
Stand yapping in the middle of the
Aisles all bleedin' day  >:(

All they do is ruin others' fun
Pain in the bum
All they do is make you wish you hadn't come

God help those bullish gentlemen
Who think they must come first
They push and shove at stands
But if you shove them back they curse
I'm sure with every passing year
It just gets worse and worse  :hmmm:

All I want is to enjoy the train show
Not the aggro
All I want is a nice time at the show

God help those rancid gentlemen
Who haven't washed their pits
They smell like old stale burgers
And it makes you feel quite sick
If their armpits ain't been washed
Then neither have their dangly bits! :sick2:

Oh I wish they would go and have a bath
Not much to ask
When they stand so close it makes you want to barf


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on December 21, 2013, 08:21:18 AM
  :laughabovepost: oh hec Paul you must have it bad.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ParkeNd on December 21, 2013, 08:43:45 AM
Met the big backpack boys at Warley. With a beer belly at the front they come out at about 4ft 6 ins deep. Rivals a well aimed twins pushchair at the Mall or a t*rts bling bag suspended from the shoulder.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on December 25, 2013, 07:46:47 PM
Short version.......

I'm sure I'm not alone on here, but my property flooded really badly yesterday.  Thankfully not a drop in the house, but front and back garden were badly flooded.  The muddy water entered the garage and my workshop.  I lost about £1200 of tools, so I was not happy at all yesterday.

Also, the 31 sandbags that the council gave me last year are BIODEGRADABLE!!!!!  So, after sitting there for nearly a year they all split and washed crushed glass and sand all over the lawn. >:(  Seriously, biodegradable sandbags?!?!?  The concrete trench and pump did well, but the water was too much.

After complaining again yesterday the council turned up an hour later (I must praise them for that) with two vans, 6 guys and another 30 sandbags.  The same type of sandbags as last time.....  So, I've just spent £23 on eBay buying 50 REAL sandbags that do not rot!!!!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mk1gtstu on December 25, 2013, 08:07:41 PM
Quote from: Tank on December 25, 2013, 07:46:47 PM
Short version.......

I'm sure I'm not alone on here, but my property flooded really badly yesterday.  Thankfully not a drop in the house, but front and back garden were badly flooded.  The muddy water entered the garage and my workshop.  I lost about £1200 of tools, so I was not happy at all yesterday.

Also, the 31 sandbags that the council gave me last year are BIODEGRADABLE!!!!!  So, after sitting there for nearly a year they all split and washed crushed glass and sand all over the lawn. >:(  Seriously, biodegradable sandbags?!?!?  The concrete trench and pump did well, but the water was too much.


After complaining again yesterday the council turned up an hour later (I must praise them for that) with two vans, 6 guys and another 30 sandbags.  The same type of sandbags as last time.....  So, I've just spent £23 on eBay buying 50 REAL sandbags that do not rot!!!!!!

Sorry to hear that  :(  I can sympathize with you. I had a similar thing happen yesterday, a workshop I rent where I'm restoring my classic car was also flooded, about 3 inches of water in there  >:( fortunately my welder & tools were up out of the way but still got a mess to clear up when I can bring myself to go back there  :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NeMo on December 25, 2013, 08:40:57 PM
Quote from: Tank on December 25, 2013, 07:46:47 PM
Seriously, biodegradable sandbags?!?!?
Absolutely standard. Biodegradable doesn't mean something falls apart during use. It means that the item decays after it's normal duration of use. Since sandbags are designed for short-term use, and should be stored dry when not in use, it's not at all surprising to see them fall apart if left in the garden for a year or more.

You can get non-biodegradable sandbags (acrylic usually) but the ones you got were presumably the standard hessian type. As a taxpayer, I'm sure you can understand why the council give away cheaper sandbags that don't require specialist disposal.

Cheers, NeMo
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on December 25, 2013, 09:10:43 PM
Quote from: mk1gtstu on December 25, 2013, 08:07:41 PM
Sorry to hear that  :(  I can sympathize with you. I had a similar thing happen yesterday, a workshop I rent where I'm restoring my classic car was also flooded, about 3 inches of water in there  >:( fortunately my welder & tools were up out of the way but still got a mess to clear up when I can bring myself to go back there  :(

Glad to hear it wasn't too bad, but still sad to see it I'm sure.

Quote from: NeMo on December 25, 2013, 08:40:57 PM
You can get non-biodegradable sandbags (acrylic usually) but the ones you got were presumably the standard hessian type. As a taxpayer, I'm sure you can understand why the council give away cheaper sandbags that don't require specialist disposal.

Cheers, NeMo

I can quite agree that biodegradable are acceptable, but only if I was told about them being so.  They were given to me on the understanding that they'd be used until they'd fixed the drainage on the neighbouring roads - which is still in the planning stages after about 2 years. :uneasy:  Also, the council know that I have two young children, so now I have crushed glass and sand all over my garden.  The bags look like they are a type of plastic, and not the hessian ones (I actually have a load of those that are ex-army).  I've bought myself some which are made from Polypropylene, and are UV treated.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: silly moo on December 28, 2013, 05:35:26 AM
Reading about flood damage puts my problem into perspective and my thoughts are with those suffering from flood damage and no electricity.

But, I'm still absolutely fuming  :veryangry:  after having to try and sort out the activation of a Model Rail subscription with Apple 'Support' . They decided in their wisdom that 'activate' meant  'cancel' and I have probably missed out on a special offer.

These things are sent to try us.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 28, 2013, 10:09:37 AM
Geez Tank, you have had a mixed year! I have been following the situation over there on the telly over here, and have been worried that some of our members have been involved!

Look on the bright side mate - last time my hometown here got flooded, it was 6 feet, not 3 inches! Luckily the Bealman abode and layout were spared.

Hope your excellent Thomas Christmas tree is OK!

Better fortunes in the New Year,

George.

No biodegradable sandbags!!!!!! Good grief.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on January 02, 2014, 12:40:53 PM
Not so much angry as bemused, on Hogmanay I received a letter from Scottish Gas which told me it won't be long before they're supplying my gas and thanking me for choosing them as my supplier, they'll be in touch soon to arrange a meter reading.

The thing is :-

I don't have gas.
I have never had gas.
I have no intention of getting gas.

Waiting for some galoot to turn up with a yellow vest and clipboard and wise him/her up.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ParkeNd on January 02, 2014, 01:41:03 PM
Quote from: Agrippa on January 02, 2014, 12:40:53 PM
Not so much angry as bemused, on Hogmanay I received a letter from Scottish Gas which told me it won't be long before they're supplying my gas and thanking me for choosing them as my supplier, they'll be in touch soon to arrange a meter reading.

The thing is :-

I don't have gas.
I have never had gas.
I have no intention of getting gas.

Waiting for some galoot to turn up with a yellow vest and clipboard and wise him/her up.

Maybe the Angry bit comes when they start sending you gas bills.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lionwing on January 02, 2014, 01:43:39 PM
Quote from: Agrippa on January 02, 2014, 12:40:53 PM
Not so much angry as bemused, on Hogmanay I received a letter from Scottish Gas which told me it won't be long before they're supplying my gas and thanking me for choosing them as my supplier, they'll be in touch soon to arrange a meter reading.

The thing is :-

I don't have gas.
I have never had gas.
I have no intention of getting gas.

Waiting for some galoot to turn up with a yellow vest and clipboard and wise him/her up.

Just let them roll up and start looking for your meter!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on January 02, 2014, 01:50:29 PM
That will be fun, also I'll ask them for a copy of my contract which I must have signed. :D

Need some amusement in the dreary  post-Xmas and New Year period.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on January 02, 2014, 02:02:26 PM
Please let us know the end bit when they do turn up.

You could always say that in the rush and bustle up to Christmas, you've mislaid the meter and appreciate them coming along to help find it!  :)

Dave G

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ParkeNd on January 02, 2014, 03:58:23 PM
Quote from: daveg on January 02, 2014, 02:02:26 PM
Please let us know the end bit when they do turn up.

You could always say that in the rush and bustle up to Christmas, you've mislaid the meter and appreciate them coming along to help find it!  :)

Dave G

But in the meantime we'll have to send you bills based on estimated readings. U
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on January 03, 2014, 04:09:44 AM
Following on from my backyard birdie photos in the happy thread, here's a couple more, but in the angry thread. Grr!
[smg id=9231 type=preview align=center width=400]
[smg id=9232 type=preview align=center width=400]
Yeah, I guess the Sulphur-crested cockatoo is a nice bird, but it's also a BIG bird. It bullies the other birds away, and is too heavy for the seed tray, which ends up on the ground!

If you look in the left background on top of the old disused barbecue, there's yet more wildlife there I didn't even notice when I took the picture!

I think I'm gonna have to start charging admission to the back garden!  ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 03, 2014, 05:33:16 AM
There looks to be more meat on that cockatoo than a pidgeon, George.
Cockatoo Casserole, anyone >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on January 03, 2014, 06:10:06 AM
You wouldn't want stewed parrot Mick, tends to repeat on you :D


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: kaiwhara on January 03, 2014, 08:40:49 AM
No wonder the Cockatoo Run from Sydney to Moss Vale is cancelled George, it's at your house!!!!!  :claphappy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RST on January 04, 2014, 12:44:07 AM
QuoteNot so much angry as bemused, on Hogmanay I received a letter from Scottish Gas which told me it won't be long before they're supplying my gas and thanking me for choosing them as my supplier, they'll be in touch soon to arrange a meter reading.

The thing is :-

I don't have gas.
I have never had gas.
I have no intention of getting gas.

Waiting for some galoot to turn up with a yellow vest and clipboard and wise him/her up.

I too get these relentless letters for my nonexistent boiler.  I would go gas in a heartbeat, but not available in my area.  Other one I still get is BT Broadband promises despite me telling our last Indian friend what I thought of BT's best offer of broadband for £140/month (verrry much cheaper than anyone elze zir).  I'm on a no junk mail list -wonder when it'll kick-in, our post man looks embarrassed when he shoves all the rubbish in my hands.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on January 04, 2014, 12:56:49 AM

Just picked up no 2 daughter from Luton Airport after her trip to no 1 daughters in Germany.

Managed to avoid the £7.90 for, between 45 mins & 1 hour car park charge :-D:-D which I got stung for when I dropped her off last week.

How the hell they can charge that much for parking is completely beyond me, mind you Luton Airport don't run their own car parks, some Dick Turpin type company called APCOA do!!!

Recognise the name?? Same robbing b!@#$/ds that run most station Car Parks.......

Regards

Neal.

P.S. To top it all off, England have capitulated in the final test as well.......

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davieb on January 05, 2014, 04:25:36 PM
Hospitals  :veryangry:  :veryangry:  :censored: :veryangry2:

My daughter was admitted to hospital last week with really bad pains in her head  :hmmm:
The specialists thought at first it may be a blood clot on her brain  :confused2:
They did a scan and found nothing

Then they moved her to another ward where the staff over New Year managed to completely mess up her meds  :veryangry:
The result was her blood sugars dropped right down  :-\

Then after messing around with her meds again her blood sugar levels have gone through the roof (around the 20-25 Mark)  :headbutt:

Then this morning some ward Quack said it was her meds that are causing all her problems........... and promptly stopped most of them  :veryangry:
Including her steroids  :unimpressed:
Resulting in my daughter being in agony with her Lupus,and high sugar levels

Luckily her Lupus specialist has been in to see her and re-instated her meds

Luckily Wigan hospital has an A&E Department as when I go to visit tonight and bump in to the ward quack he will need it  :zippedmouth:

Sorry for rambling on but I am just livid at the treatment she has received over the last couple of days  :veryangry:
if anything happens to my un-born grand child ..........well Wigan hospital won't know what's hit it  >:D

dave  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 05, 2014, 04:52:45 PM
I'm speechless, Dave (well, not actually, but what I have to say about the medical situation in the UK can't be repeated :censored:
Someone really needs to get a grip on the NHS and sort the shambles out. It's bad enough we have a completely different set of rules in England to Scotland and Wales, but the sheer incompetence displayed by medics is sometimes unbelievable. I'm aware I shouldn't apply a general lambasting as there are certainly those who don't fall into the incompetent category, but the media is just full of examples of poor treatment.
It never helps to be in hospital at a weekend while the ones in the know have their time off and those who aren't in the know think they know what they're doing.
I hope the BMC gets to hear of what is going on, Dave
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on January 05, 2014, 04:56:33 PM
Mick's taken almost all the words out of my mouth.

Hope things are sorted properly for your daughter.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on January 05, 2014, 05:05:40 PM
I am wishing your daughter well Dave, I do hope she is out of hospital soon, not a fan of hospitals there seems to be a non caring mode since the hospitals got put into the hands of accountants.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davieb on January 05, 2014, 08:28:53 PM
Thanks for the messages of support  :thankyousign:

I walked in tonight to an absolute nightmare  :doh:
My daughter was in tears and threatening to sign herself out  :uneasy:

I managed to calm her down and had a chat with her about what had gone on earlier
She told me that the ward Quack turned round and said to her that everything is in her head
Took her off most of her medications...............And best of all turned round and said to her
"A blood sugar level of 21 is nothing to worry about"

She has 3 so called specialists looking after her and they are all saying different things
The nurses haven't the foggiest what is going on let alone my daughter

Anyway I have the name of this ward quack so a phone call is going to be made tomorrow  ;)

And I am going to have a chat with the deputy ward sister tomorrow who happens to be a close friend of the family
to see if she can sort these so called specialists out so that my daughter can get her treatment back on course  :worried:

:beers:
dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on January 05, 2014, 08:44:46 PM
I second what has been already said Dave and I do feel for your daughter.  I was in hospital for three weeks and I dreaded the weekends, I had to double check my medication I was on before I went into hospital as they rarely got it right.  Fortunately not being afraid to kick up hell when needed and to the right people gave me a reputation and my treatment then improved.

I hope you get some satisfaction tomorrow and are able to get in touch with her normal doctors.

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on January 05, 2014, 08:47:02 PM
A shocking tale, hope your daughter recovers ok. Not a surprising story though , a friend of
mine went into the RAH Paisley for a hysterectomy, the operation was only over by a few
seconds when the surgeon dashed off to a private hospital a couple miles away, my friend was wheeled into an open ward and developed internal bleeding due to some botch and was
lucky to survive. There are a lot of good people in the NHS , but there are some who shouldn't be allowed to treat a dog never mind a human.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on January 05, 2014, 09:07:00 PM
Oh blimey Dave.

Hope you're able to get things sorted in the morning. Make a lot of noise and make sure they not only hear you but listen!

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: REGP on January 05, 2014, 09:20:59 PM
Dave
Like Mick I am virtually speechless.
You are right in thinking  that you  really have to get to someone senior who knows about your daughter’s case and can sort things out and order others as to what to do.
Just don’t let your frustration / anger make you incoherent.
Hope you get things sorted quickly.
Regards
Ray
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on January 11, 2014, 10:48:42 AM
Doctor says Mrs. JC and I arnt to do anything for 'several' days.
Our viruses have got worse and we are to rest completely.yeah right that's going to work.
Son doesn't drive........we live out in the country......... buses sometimes run.......sometimes not.
Oh and I cant do any modelling  >:(
Its going to be a great week
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Papyrus on January 11, 2014, 11:53:16 AM
I'm really sorry to hear from you guys having such trouble with the NHS. I hope your various problems get sorted out asap. My very best wishes to you all.

Just to put the other side of the story, though, my 94-year-old mother had a stroke 2 days after Christmas. She's not paralysed, but her speech has gone to pot. She was taken into our local hospital, the Princess Royal in Haywards Heath, and I have to say she has had exemplary care. She is getting physio and speech therapy, as well as treatment for her kidneys, and they are reassessing her diabetes treatment. To top it all, she has been promised a new wheelchair when she comes out. I am absolutely astonished at the amount of effort they are putting in for someone who, to be brutally frank, doesn't have a massive amount of quality of life left. And all this from a hospital that has, to say the least of it, a mixed reputation.

It's inevitable that, in an organisation as big as the NHS, you are going to get parts that are better than others. It is always the bad news that hits the headlines, and justifiably makes people angry, but there is plenty of good stuff going on beneath the radar which should be recognised.

Regards,

Chris
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: beestie on January 15, 2014, 09:27:52 PM
my bloody cars exhaust has fallen clean off!!! :veryangry: and to top it off somethings bitten me in my ear great  week !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Wild on January 16, 2014, 09:47:35 PM
In the middle of wiring 20 point motors and 40 LED's to my mimic panel via 4 off 25way connectors. Points all worked fine and the first LED as well. But when I connected the second LED the first one started to flash. Aha, I thought a short circuit somewhere. After hours of continuity testing and voltage measuring I was stuck and issuing more expletives than Gordon Ramsey.

All of a sudden it dawned on me - the 20 LED connections on one of the connectors were all connected from pins 20 -> 1 rather than 1 -> 20 as it should have been. The wrong way round completely.

What a plonker!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on January 17, 2014, 05:11:56 PM
Been feeling a bit rough, so went to the GP today. He checked me over, and noticed I had a boil under my right armpit (which I thought was just a sore spot), and diagnosed Bubonic Plague!!! Thankfully he was joking (I hope), and I am just run down and need a tonic - so that's a new bottle of single malt, then.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RST on January 17, 2014, 11:32:12 PM
QuoteThankfully he was joking (I hope), and I am just run down and need a tonic - so that's a new bottle of single malt, then.

I use Schweppes Slimline Tonic personally.  Trouble is I prefer the Gordons + ice with it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ozzie Bill. on January 18, 2014, 12:42:43 AM
fell off my motor scooter on way to work. 40c heat, so not wearing proper protection. Bit smashed up. Trauma surgeon said I could go home if I could walk. Fell over! Home last night after 3 days. Internal bleeding in some joints, made worse by fact that I am on blood thinners. To cap it all off, the bloody scooter is bleeding as well. Got home and saw oil all over the drive. Bit of a nuisance really. Anyway, could be a lot worse so not really complaining. Cheers, Bill.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on January 18, 2014, 06:37:40 AM
Sympathies OB!

Came off my Lambretta more times than I care to remember. Mind you that was back in the 1960's when tyres were total poo and there was oil and diesel all over the roads, especially at roundabouts.

Hope you and your transport are back on the road soon.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on January 18, 2014, 09:21:03 PM
I feel for you Bill, not only having to contend with that heat but now having been bashed up.

I hope you feel better soon  ;)

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on January 18, 2014, 09:47:27 PM
No work on the railway today, the ruddy shower packed in yesterday, mind we have had it about 12 years so can't complain. But what with the washing machine packing in just before christmas and now that, whats next, they say things go in threes.......
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on January 19, 2014, 10:32:23 AM
Sanctimonious experts who think are always  right and >:( know best
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on January 19, 2014, 12:35:13 PM
Quote from: jonclox on January 19, 2014, 10:32:23 AM
Sanctimonious experts who think are always  right and >:( know best

Don't let him get to you, it's not worth it  ;)

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: petercharlesfagg on January 19, 2014, 06:57:05 PM
Not so much angry as upset!

Couldn't work out why trains and locomotives toppled off my raised trackwork!

Tested with spirit level, OK, tested witrh eyeball after big struggle to get close enough, "AAAARGH!"   :veryangry:

Blobs of hot melt glue on the blind side or in side of track.

Couldn't remove it so cut the track but had to tear down the hillside the extract the glued trackwork!!!  :'(

Now big hole and the prospect of rebuilding not only trackbed but also the hills!

Peter.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on January 19, 2014, 07:00:50 PM
 
Quote from: petercharlesfagg on January 19, 2014, 06:57:05 PM
Not so much angry as upset!

Couldn't work out why trains and locomotives toppled off my raised trackwork!

Tested with spirit level, OK, tested witrh eyeball after big struggle to get close enough, "AAAARGH!"   :veryangry:

Blobs of hot melt glue on the blind side or in side of track.

Couldn't remove it so cut the track but had to tear down the hillside the extract the glued trackwork!!!  :'(

Now big hole and the prospect of rebuilding not only trackbed but also the hills!

Peter.
:( Ouch it hurts even to just read that Peter.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 19, 2014, 07:46:56 PM
So sorry to hear that, Peter :(
Hopefully it won't be too much hassle to put things right.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on January 20, 2014, 07:38:30 AM
Sorry for the problems Peter but thanks for sharing.

Hope the fix isn't too traumatic.

A reminder perhaps that we should cover up the track when doing scenic and other work nearby.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on January 20, 2014, 01:39:38 PM
 :veryangry:
All work stopped!!! Despite living 474 metres above sea level, the last 4 days of continuos rain has overwhelmed the village storm drains and led to a small river running through my cantina (train room). The rear wall is just pure mountain, the (very old) house was built on top of that so the water has finally seeped through all the bedrock and decided to exit through the various gaps in the rock! 24 litres an hour are gently flowing through the room.. Luckily it does slope towards the garden so if it stops this week I may be able to get back in and finish the "bridge access". If not I will be searching ebay for model boats.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on January 20, 2014, 02:43:08 PM
Quote from: petercharlesfagg on January 19, 2014, 06:57:05 PM
Now big hole and the prospect of rebuilding not only trackbed but also the hills!
Peter.

Well at least the earth moved for you today Peter  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on January 20, 2014, 02:49:50 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on January 20, 2014, 01:39:38 PM
:veryangry:
All work stopped!!! Despite living 474 metres above sea level, the last 4 days of continuos rain has overwhelmed the village storm drains and led to a small river running through my cantina (train room). The rear wall is just pure mountain, the (very old) house was built on top of that so the water has finally seeped through all the bedrock and decided to exit through the various gaps in the rock! 24 litres an hour are gently flowing through the room.. Luckily it does slope towards the garden so if it stops this week I may be able to get back in and finish the "bridge access". If not I will be searching ebay for model boats.

Sorry to hear of your floods Jerry, hope the rain eases of soon.  The second house I bought here had that water seepage though bedrock problem, the rooms in the basement became rivers, glad I got rid of it 9 years ago. :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on January 20, 2014, 02:59:59 PM
Hope the damp doesn't spoil all your hard work or your locos and rolling stock.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 20, 2014, 04:00:05 PM
Sorry to hear about your weather/flood problem, Jerry :(
I hope everything is safe.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on January 20, 2014, 04:06:28 PM
Hope it soon dried up and you can get things back to normal soon
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Chinahand on January 20, 2014, 04:44:50 PM
Have you given any thought to incorporating it into a 'moving' water feature Jerry.

I'll get me hat (hard hat that is)  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on January 20, 2014, 05:23:03 PM
Quote from: Chinahand on January 20, 2014, 04:44:50 PM
Have you given any thought to incorporating it into a 'moving' water feature Jerry.

I'll get me hat (hard hat that is)  >:D

Hard hat ? , if it doesn't stop soon I will need water wings!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on January 21, 2014, 10:11:20 AM
Quote from: Chinahand on January 20, 2014, 04:44:50 PM
Have you given any thought to incorporating it into a 'moving' water feature Jerry.

I'll get me hat (hard hat that is)  >:D

Or perhaps a big sealed glass wall between the room and the rock and a drainage pipe near the top that goes into the garden, then some coldwater fish or a shark ?

Seriously - hope you can get it sorted properly, water ingress is no fun

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on January 22, 2014, 08:24:57 PM
On top of my 'normal' health problems I suspect Nora virus has kept me in bed all day  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on January 22, 2014, 09:38:31 PM
Quote from: jonclox on January 22, 2014, 08:24:57 PM
On top of my 'normal' health problems I suspect Nora virus has kept me in bed all day  :veryangry:

It can't be if it's the same Nora Virus I had, bed was the last place I could get as I spent more time in the loo than anywhere else  :doh:

It took a while to get out of my system as well  :veryangry2:

Hope you feel better soon  :thumbsup:

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on January 22, 2014, 10:58:04 PM
Well yesterday I didn't know weather to laugh or cry. In september I bought one of those jump starters/compressor for my car from Maplins. Its been under the stairs ever since never used it till yesterday, my son calls round and says dad can I borrow your mini compressor to blow my tyre up. Well he started to blow the tyre up but when he had finished we could not switch the contraption off, the switch stuck. I took it back to Maplins, that was a laugh with the thing running all the way there. I had found by  pressing a screwdriver on the switch I could stop it for short periods. You should have seen there faces when I walked in the shop, in fairness they swapped it for a new one so no problem there. What with the washing machine and then the shower failing I hope that's my three things that have gone faulty recently.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on January 23, 2014, 10:20:57 AM
Quote from: scotsoft on January 22, 2014, 09:38:31 PM
Quote from: jonclox on January 22, 2014, 08:24:57 PM
On top of my 'normal' health problems I suspect Nora virus has kept me in bed all day  :veryangry:

It can't be if it's the same Nora Virus I had, bed was the last place I could get as I spent more time in the loo than anywhere else  :doh:

It took a while to get out of my system as well  :veryangry2:

Hope you feel better soon  :thumbsup:

cheers John.
Is the Nora virus similar to the Novovirus but with wrinkly stockings?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on January 23, 2014, 10:22:12 AM
Quote from: Malc on January 23, 2014, 10:20:57 AM
Quote from: scotsoft on January 22, 2014, 09:38:31 PM
Quote from: jonclox on January 22, 2014, 08:24:57 PM
On top of my 'normal' health problems I suspect Nora virus has kept me in bed all day  :veryangry:

It can't be if it's the same Nora Virus I had, bed was the last place I could get as I spent more time in the loo than anywhere else  :doh:

It took a while to get out of my system as well  :veryangry2:

Hope you feel better soon  :thumbsup:

cheers John.
Is the Nora virus similar to the Novovirus but with wrinkly stockings?

That's the one Malc  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on January 23, 2014, 10:35:02 AM
Quote from: Malc on January 23, 2014, 10:20:57 AM
Quote from: scotsoft on January 22, 2014, 09:38:31 PM
Quote from: jonclox on January 22, 2014, 08:24:57 PM
On top of my 'normal' health problems I suspect Nora virus has kept me in bed all day  :veryangry:

It can't be if it's the same Nora Virus I had, bed was the last place I could get as I spent more time in the loo than anywhere else  :doh:

It took a while to get out of my system as well  :veryangry2:

Hope you feel better soon  :thumbsup:

cheers John.
Is the Nora virus similar to the Novovirus but with wrinkly stockings?
Yups and Ive got them as well.
Trip up to the out of hours doctors about 1AM this morning because breathing became mega bad.
Spent about 15 minutes waiting and then a half hour check over.
Things settled back down this morning but will take things easy
Not seen train room for 48 hours  :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on January 23, 2014, 12:58:25 PM
Feel better soon, Jon.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on January 23, 2014, 03:34:09 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on January 22, 2014, 09:38:31 PM
Quote from: jonclox on January 22, 2014, 08:24:57 PM
On top of my 'normal' health problems I suspect Nora virus has kept me in bed all day  :veryangry:

It can't be if it's the same Nora Virus I had, bed was the last place I could get as I spent more time in the loo than anywhere else  :doh:

It took a while to get out of my system as well  :veryangry2:

Hope you feel better soon  :thumbsup:

cheers John.
Agreed it couldn`t have been Nora Virus it was far to short lived but it wasn`t very nice
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: FeelixTC on January 23, 2014, 03:36:43 PM
Tax Returns.

..............'nuff said.  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on January 23, 2014, 06:01:47 PM
Quote from: FeelixTC on January 23, 2014, 03:36:43 PM
Tax Returns.

..............'nuff said.  :veryangry:

Done - Paid!!  :angel:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: FeelixTC on January 23, 2014, 06:07:30 PM
Quote from: Jack on January 23, 2014, 06:01:47 PM
Quote from: FeelixTC on January 23, 2014, 03:36:43 PM
Tax Returns.

..............'nuff said.  :veryangry:

Done - Paid!!  :angel:

See 'happy thread' re: payment.
Nothing, zilch, nowt.

There are *some* upsides to being an accountant!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Croxy on January 23, 2014, 11:28:45 PM
Oh yea.....overnight tonight and tomorrow morning the weather forecast is for a temperature of -33 celsius and the warmest temp for the next week is a balmy -8 celsius......and more snow to shovel this weekend by the looks of things..... :veryangry2:

:veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 24, 2014, 11:28:46 AM
Quote from: Croxy on January 23, 2014, 11:28:45 PM
Oh yea.....overnight tonight and tomorrow morning the weather forecast is for a temperature of -33 celsius and the warmest temp for the next week is a balmy -8 celsius......and more snow to shovel this weekend by the looks of things..... :veryangry2:

:veryangry:

:o :goggleeyes: :cold: :cold: :cold:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on January 24, 2014, 12:22:50 PM
Quote from: Croxy on January 23, 2014, 11:28:45 PM
Oh yea.....overnight tonight and tomorrow morning the weather forecast is for a temperature of -33 celsius and the warmest temp for the next week is a balmy -8 celsius......and more snow to shovel this weekend by the looks of things..... :veryangry2:

:veryangry:

Just like Springtime in Scotland  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on January 24, 2014, 12:26:44 PM

[/quote]

Just like Springtime in Scotland  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:

cheers John.
[/quote]

And sometimes summer ! :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on January 24, 2014, 02:04:02 PM
Quote from: Croxy on January 23, 2014, 11:28:45 PM
Oh yea.....overnight tonight and tomorrow morning the weather forecast is for a temperature of -33 celsius and the warmest temp for the next week is a balmy -8 celsius......and more snow to shovel this weekend by the looks of things..... :veryangry2:

:veryangry:
You might need to put a shirt on before you go outside then  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: FeelixTC on January 24, 2014, 02:30:35 PM
Quote from: jonclox on January 24, 2014, 02:04:02 PM
Quote from: Croxy on January 23, 2014, 11:28:45 PM
Oh yea.....overnight tonight and tomorrow morning the weather forecast is for a temperature of -33 celsius and the warmest temp for the next week is a balmy -8 celsius......and more snow to shovel this weekend by the looks of things..... :veryangry2:

:veryangry:
You might need to put a shirt on before you go outside then  :)

.........unless you're from Newcastle
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Croxy on January 24, 2014, 10:59:40 PM
Quote from: Agrippa on January 24, 2014, 12:26:44 PM


Just like Springtime in Scotland  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:

cheers John.
[/quote]

And sometimes summer ! :(
[/quote]

It's funny......they used to call it an "Arctic Air Mass" when this weather pushed in.....but I suppose that isn't dramatic enough so now they have to call it a

POLAR VORTEX

I suppose that just sounds far more dramatic......I just call it cold......and tonight the wind is gusting up to 90 KMH.....yup cold....good night to hibernate....  :)

:whiteflag:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: QLD KID on January 25, 2014, 02:31:13 AM
 :hellosign: Couldn't agree more Dumb T V for Women seems to be a World Wide Disease and one of the reasons I started building my Layout again. Works for me I even have the Garage air-conditioned now, a must in Far North Queensland so it all worked out in the end.
Enjoy your Trains. Cheers, Denis.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on January 25, 2014, 10:29:28 AM
 :veryangry: :veryangry: Last night leckie power went off. Stayed off long enough for us to think torches etc. Came back on after about 15 minutes. Just long enough to upset the PC which promptly dumped every single password that I had lovingly set up.
Now fuming as I try and remember them all and reinstall them  :veryangry: :veryangry:
By the way don't worry I remembered this one and got back in  ;D (clever or what?)  :angel:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 25, 2014, 02:33:49 PM
Good to see how your memory's priorities lie, Jon :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on January 25, 2014, 03:56:24 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on January 25, 2014, 02:33:49 PM
Good to see how your memory's priorities lie, Jon :D
I think I shall now replace all my passwords with an extremely rude word or phrase.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: REGP on January 25, 2014, 04:22:07 PM
That's it Jon, just think of the word you say when you can't remember the password and use that!

If that's not long enough just repeat it.

Ray
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ParkeNd on January 25, 2014, 05:40:47 PM
Quote from: REGP on January 25, 2014, 04:22:07 PM
That's it Jon, just think of the word you say when you can't remember the password and use that!

If that's not long enough just repeat it.

Ray

One of the required password formats at work required a minimum of 27 characters to access an HR function. That needed either a poem or a short prayer for a password !!  Don't know any 27 character swear words - but then a rude phrase would have done I suppose.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 25, 2014, 06:30:38 PM
Quote from: ParkeNd on January 25, 2014, 05:40:47 PM
Quote from: REGP on January 25, 2014, 04:22:07 PM
That's it Jon, just think of the word you say when you can't remember the password and use that!

If that's not long enough just repeat it.

Ray

One of the required password formats at work required a minimum of 27 characters to access an HR function. That needed either a poem or a short prayer for a password !!  Don't know any 27 character swear words - but then a rude phrase would have done I suppose.

:o
I have to assume that 'Alphabet1' wouldn't work then :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ParkeNd on January 25, 2014, 07:08:58 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on January 25, 2014, 06:30:38 PM
Quote from: ParkeNd on January 25, 2014, 05:40:47 PM
Quote from: REGP on January 25, 2014, 04:22:07 PM
That's it Jon, just think of the word you say when you can't remember the password and use that!

If that's not long enough just repeat it.

Ray

Strange that one didn't appear in the survey of passwords published in one of the newspapers this week. It did include though as the no1 most common password "123456". An old lady (older than me that is) in front of me in Waitrose a few months back keyed a PIN of "0000" which is great for a numeric keypad.

One of the required password formats at work required a minimum of 27 characters to access an HR function. That needed either a poem or a short prayer for a password !!  Don't know any 27 character swear words - but then a rude phrase would have done I suppose.

:o
I have to assume that 'Alphabet1' wouldn't work then :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on January 28, 2014, 12:38:25 AM
Packaging. Grrr. I know that we want our models to be well protected - especially when they are being posted or sent by courier, but I find getting them out of the box to be very problematic.

What has prompted this is that I had a devil of a job getting my prized Class 42 'Goliath' out of the box recently, and managed to leave a buffer behind in the box in the process. To make things worse, I noticed another one missing off the other end - and I think that is probably in the vacuum cleaner.

I endeavour to take great care with my models - especially at Aussie prices (A$209.95 for the Warship from a hobby shop when I was in Tasmania - 110.64 Pounds), but I don't see why they can't put a little finger indent in the foam to facilitate a more delicate removal.

There. That's me grunt for the day.  >:(

Does anyone know if I can get replacement buffers?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Croxy on January 28, 2014, 01:15:02 AM
Quote from: Bealman on January 28, 2014, 12:38:25 AM
Packaging. Grrr. I know that we want our models to be well protected - especially when they are being posted or sent by courier, but I find getting them out of the box to be very problematic.

What has prompted this is that I had a devil of a job getting my prized Class 42 'Goliath' out of the box recently, and managed to leave a buffer behind in the box in the process. To make things worse, I noticed another one missing off the other end - and I think that is probably in the vacuum cleaner.

I endeavour to take great care with my models - especially at Aussie prices (A$209.95 for the Warship from a hobby shop when I was in Tasmania - 110.64 Pounds), but I don't see why they can't put a little finger indent in the foam to facilitate a more delicate removal.

There. That's me grunt for the day.  >:(

Does anyone know if I can get replacement buffers?

I feel your pain.....although I haven't had that happen to me yet, I feel it is only a matter of time. Sometimes they are very difficult to remove from the packaging.....

:veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on January 28, 2014, 02:36:05 PM
 :veryangry: Messrs Yodel  :veryangry:
Our house name is clearly displayed in 2 places but they still need to phone us (in broken English) to ask where we are
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on January 28, 2014, 02:37:39 PM
Does "at the end of the phone talking to you ?" not work  ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DrBlue86 on January 28, 2014, 03:16:09 PM
Quote from: jonclox on January 28, 2014, 02:36:05 PM
:veryangry: Messrs Yodel  :veryangry:
Our house name is clearly displayed in 2 places but they still need to phone us (in broken English) to ask where we are
An idea for that is to find out your lat/long reference no. Or use an os 6figure grid reference
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on January 28, 2014, 05:22:34 PM
What really annoys me is the number of phone calls on my mobile about unclaimed PPI, or accidents at work. I have 33 of them blocked, but still get others popping up. :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ParkeNd on January 28, 2014, 07:16:27 PM
Scaffolders. In particular scaffolders who refuse point blank, when hired by a major fascia/soffit and double glazing company, to put two planks down to stop the fascia replacement turning the top of the lawn into a replica of the Somme battlefield "because we're scaffolders mate, not (expletive) gardeners"

Not just scaffolders - scaffolders who have never heard the word "customer".
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on January 28, 2014, 08:12:50 PM
Send 'em a bill for £100 damages, with a note that if you don't get paid you'll see them in the Small Claims Court !

A neighbour had his lawned verge repeatedly run over by a lorry delivering building materials - he billed the builders each time it happened - they paid up, and took it up with the delivery company !  They didn't do it again ...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on January 28, 2014, 09:37:48 PM
Quote from: ParkeNd on January 28, 2014, 07:16:27 PM
Scaffolders. In particular scaffolders who refuse point blank, when hired by a major fascia/soffit and double glazing company, to put two planks down to stop the fascia replacement turning the top of the lawn into a replica of the Somme battlefield "because we're scaffolders mate, not (expletive) gardeners"

Not just scaffolders - scaffolders who have never heard the word "customer".
Unfortunately, you are not their customer, the double glazing company is, so send them a bill. They will give the scaffolders a kick up the jacksie.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ParkeNd on January 28, 2014, 10:45:39 PM
Quote from: Malc on January 28, 2014, 09:37:48 PM
Quote from: ParkeNd on January 28, 2014, 07:16:27 PM
Scaffolders. In particular scaffolders who refuse point blank, when hired by a major fascia/soffit and double glazing company, to put two planks down to stop the fascia replacement turning the top of the lawn into a replica of the Somme battlefield "because we're scaffolders mate, not (expletive) gardeners"

Not just scaffolders - scaffolders who have never heard the word "customer".
Unfortunately, you are not their customer, the double glazing company is, so send them a bill. They will give the scaffolders a kick up the jacksie.

You are right of course. But it's a glitch in the contract for us. I have complained already and will take it up with the surveyor when he visits. Probably get a scaffolding pole through my window when they come to remove the scaffolding.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 29, 2014, 09:54:34 AM
Quote from: ParkeNd on January 28, 2014, 10:45:39 PM
Quote from: Malc on January 28, 2014, 09:37:48 PM
Quote from: ParkeNd on January 28, 2014, 07:16:27 PM
Scaffolders. In particular scaffolders who refuse point blank, when hired by a major fascia/soffit and double glazing company, to put two planks down to stop the fascia replacement turning the top of the lawn into a replica of the Somme battlefield "because we're scaffolders mate, not (expletive) gardeners"

Not just scaffolders - scaffolders who have never heard the word "customer".
Unfortunately, you are not their customer, the double glazing company is, so send them a bill. They will give the scaffolders a kick up the jacksie.

Probably get a scaffolding pole through my window when they come to remove the scaffolding.

If the scaffolder is for the high jump, he might be on the end of the pole :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on January 29, 2014, 10:04:34 AM
They don't bend that far.  ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ParkeNd on February 01, 2014, 09:13:11 PM
Not only scaffolders. Now the fascia and soffit repair team who have broken a tile so that the window below it leaks water out of the ventilation slot. And they can't come to fix it until Monday - and it's raining!!!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 01, 2014, 09:35:37 PM
They don't all work for Bodgitt & Scarper, do they :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on February 01, 2014, 10:31:02 PM
Sounds like a chapter from "The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists" by Robert Tressel
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ParkeNd on February 01, 2014, 11:05:27 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on February 01, 2014, 09:35:37 PM
They don't all work for Bodgitt & Scarper, do they :worried:

No. These are the most expensive of all the possibilities.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrafarfan on February 02, 2014, 12:37:43 AM
Don't you just hate it when your in a situation where it's just you and your friend and his girlfriend in the pub then you see the dark side to your friend being really nasty to his girlfriend Especialy when it's your best friend.

It was embarasing and disturbing, them to having a row Especialy when he was in the wrong he didn't hit her though but he was really aggressive I had to berate him after.

It was really horrible I didn't know what to do had I not known my friend for so long I would of told him where to go but I'm shocked the way he spoke to her.

Really hate these situations. Wasn't sure what do but post something on here.

Hopefully things would blow over. :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on February 02, 2014, 09:54:55 AM
QuoteDon't you just hate it when your in a situation where it's just you and your friend and his girlfriend in the pub then you see the dark side to your friend being really nasty to his girlfriend Especialy when it's your best friend.]Don't you just hate it when your in a situation where it's just you and your friend and his girlfriend in the pub then you see the dark side to your friend being really nasty to his girlfriend Especialy when it's your best friend.

Wow, sorry to hear that mate  :(

I have never been in that situation (I have seen best mates and GFs argue of course, but nether got nasty nasty), but I think you defo did the right thing. You are perfectly entitled to have a word with him after the event, it seems to me he was being a massive ****.

I would never presume to know what is going on here, nor tell you what to do, just hope the situation improves and does not repeat itself.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DWS on February 05, 2014, 04:45:24 PM
Nuisance phone calls - I've had three moire today;

"Do I want solar panels?"
"Our database shows that you haven't taken up the latest Government..."
"Am I speaking to the home owner? (In an Asian accent)"

I regularly get two or three a day and I am totally fed up with them, so much so that I have resorted to shouting at them to leave me alone and other unprintable comments.  BT don't want to know (like most other things) and while I'm on the subject of BT, have you ever tried actually talking to someone at BT?  They have soon ditched their "It's good to talk" campaign - their new adverts should say "We'll happily take your money but we really don't want to talk to you".

There, I feel so much better now, or do I?   :veryangry:

Oh, and to top it all, my iMac refused to start up this morning, after three or four attempts it finally opened giving me the message "Opening Error 5" which a quick search of the Interweb informed me that this probably means the hard drive is on the way out!  So I'm having to write this on my iPad...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dock Shunter on February 05, 2014, 05:01:17 PM
Quote from: Malc on February 01, 2014, 10:31:02 PM
Sounds like a chapter from "The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists" by Robert Tressel

Everybody should read that book Malc.... :thumbsup:
A real education and an eye opener.
Tressel was way ahead of his time....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on February 05, 2014, 05:25:42 PM
Quote from: DWS on February 05, 2014, 04:45:24 PM
Nuisance phone calls - I've had three moire today;

"Do I want solar panels?"
"Our database shows that you haven't taken up the latest Government..."
"Am I speaking to the home owner? (In an Asian accent)"

I regularly get two or three a day and I am totally fed up with them, so much so that I have resorted to shouting at them to leave me alone and other unprintable comments.
I had a call from some guy who wanted to know if I'd had an accident at work recently. I said yes, I had an accident about 3 weeks ago. He started to get excited  and asked if I wanted to do something about it. I said, I have already done that. He asked me what had I done. I told him that I just came home and changed my underpants. He hung up. No sense of humour these sales types.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on February 05, 2014, 05:55:21 PM
"Hello, I'm calling from the Windows support desk and our records show that your PC is generating a lot of errors."

(My previous employment, amongst other things, involved cleaning up after these people when the poor suckers customers allowed them onto their computers...)

Depending on my mood, the response to this is one of the following:

"I don't have a PC, I have an iMac." (I don't).
"The PC that I've just run CCleaner/Malwarebytes/Chkdsk/Disc cleanup on? And they found no issues whatsoever?"
"I am perfectly able to clean up my own PC, I don't need any help from you."
"If I let you on to my computer, will you show me where the warnings in SYSLOG are and I'll tell you what they really mean..."
"Hang on a moment, I'll just switch it on again and we'll see if you can help me." Put phone down. 15 minutes later go back to phone to find they've rang off.
"Listen, I spent a lot of time at work cleaning up after you scammers, why don't you get a proper IT job and help people rather than extorting money out of them?"

What I really want to do one day is to set up an old PC which has working Internet access but everything else is not working and let them on and flounder about a bit.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on February 05, 2014, 06:47:38 PM
My elderly mother's hairdresser came this afternoon. After washing her hair, and putting her under the drier, the hairdresser went into the kitchen to make them some tea. Now, she does this every week, and always leaves the kitchen door open (we tie it back to a veg rack, as it tends to swing closed). Today, for no known reason, she closed the kitchen door behind her, pulling the veg rack over, which jammed behind the door. I came home, through the front door, and found the kitchen door jammed shut. No problem, I would go round the back and go in the back door and free the rack. But, gate key in kitchen, so, into garage and tooled up, tried to get gate open. Screws for top bolt rusted in, and could not undo them (swaying on ladder), so decided to try and prise it off. Easy with crowbar, but that was in shed at bottom of garden. Finally used a large screwdriver to prise bolt free. Not a great deal, except it was sheeting it down, and force 10 gale up the side of the house as well. I did request that this would not happen again - in a forceful way. And the door can swing shut as much as it likes, from now on! Just need a trip to B & Q tomorrow for a new gate bolt.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on February 05, 2014, 07:27:20 PM
A fine tale Kipper ( :D) and beautifully delivered!

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on February 05, 2014, 08:03:34 PM
And now the keys have been separated. For some unknown reason, one of each was in a key box on the kitchen wall (behind the door!!), and the copies/spares in a tin in a kitchen cupboard. I have now taken the tin out of the kitchen, and spread the other keys around the house, to avoid this farce again. (we live in hope)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on February 05, 2014, 10:13:48 PM
Quote from: DWS on February 05, 2014, 04:45:24 PM
unprintable comments.  BT don't want to know (like most other things) and while I'm on the subject of BT, have you ever tried actually talking to someone at BT?  They have soon ditched their "It's good to talk" campaign - their new

Telephone preference service is the first thing to be registered for. Then when they tell you the company name, write it down, and report them. BT unfortunately mostly try to sell you services like caller id (ones many others provide for free). If you are not on a long contract threatening to leave may help, leaving may help even more. You can take the number with you.

The technology solution is a bit more complicated to deploy, and involves routing your phone calls incoming via a PC. At that point you can have a lot of fun with these people because you can basically program the computer to play with them.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on February 05, 2014, 10:37:36 PM
We are registered with the telephone preference service, but still get some calls. Admittedly, less than we used to. We have a caller ID box and if the call is Withheld, especially if it is during the day, we don't bother answering. It still means we have to go to the phone to see who is calling. :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on February 05, 2014, 10:42:03 PM
http://nonodes.spunow.co.uk/2012/11/usb-modem-from-mono-on-raspberry-pi.html (http://nonodes.spunow.co.uk/2012/11/usb-modem-from-mono-on-raspberry-pi.html)

has instructions on how to use a Raspberry PI to answer and immediately hangup on calls with no id or matching idents
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 05, 2014, 11:11:31 PM
Quote from: Malc on February 05, 2014, 05:25:42 PM
I had a call from some guy who wanted to know if I'd had an accident at work recently. I said yes, I had an accident about 3 weeks ago. He started to get excited  and asked if I wanted to do something about it. I said, I have already done that. He asked me what had I done. I told him that I just came home and changed my underpants. He hung up. No sense of humour these sales types.
:laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ParkeNd on February 06, 2014, 12:36:31 AM
Was robbed of the chance to get angry yesterday. Expected to be angry when. I reported that our new roofline work had made one of the widow frames leak. But the same two men who fitted the bit that leaked (huge national company) turned up next morning, spent two hours tracking back from the leak to the source, and then another hour fixing it perfectly.

Almost angry that I was robbed of the opportunity to be properly angry.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on February 06, 2014, 08:24:52 AM
Quote from: Malc on February 05, 2014, 10:37:36 PM
We are registered with the telephone preference service, but still get some calls. Admittedly, less than we used to. We have a caller ID box and if the call is Withheld, especially if it is during the day, we don't bother answering. It still means we have to go to the phone to see who is calling. :veryangry:

A lot of the marketing calls still received are made by businesses that haven't signed up to the Marketing Code of Practice (DMA). A large number of these are based overseas (Mumbai, etc) so don't give a hoot about such things.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: petercharlesfagg on February 06, 2014, 10:14:45 AM
Not on this planet!


Telephone rang, nice gentleman asked if I was the owner of "Peters Platters", "Yes" I replied.

"I've been studying the items for sale on your web site"

" I particularly like the one that is marked "not for sale", would you sell it for £20.00?"

I said, "That item is not for sale, it is my company logo, it is placed centrally at every show that I attend to catch the eye, if it were for sale it would cost somewhere in the region of £100.00 because of all the time, effort, insurance and timber costs!"


Long pause!



He then said "Oh!  Would you accept "£25.00 then?"

I laughed quietly, then stated that "You are definitely not listening to a word I say but if you would consider your offer again?"


Another long pause!




"OK" he said.  "£30.00, that's my last offer!"



Concealing my frustrations I gently suggested that he consider studying all the other items in my gallery, that some of them WOULD come within his budget.



"I've looked at all the others but I don't like them, I want that specific item"  He continued "If you are going to be so awkward I shall take my business elsewhere!"



Replacing the receiver, I fumed!   :veryangry:




What does "Not for sale" mean to you?

Regards, Peter.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 06, 2014, 10:21:27 AM
For nuisance calls I generally ask very politely the name of the company and the name of who is calling, then tell them I will be speaking to my solicitor about 'Invasion of Privacy' and they will hear from said solicitor very soon.
It seems to do the trick mostly :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: kevin141 on February 06, 2014, 12:23:47 PM
Why can you never find the part you want but always find something that you had forgotten you had brought small parts,little kits etc OR IS IT ---- LAW at its best
kevin141  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 06, 2014, 12:32:27 PM
Quote from: kevin141 on February 06, 2014, 12:23:47 PM
Why can you never find the part you want but always find something that you had forgotten you had brought small parts,little kits etc OR IS IT ---- LAW at its best
kevin141  >:(

In my case it's just a duff memory :-[
I'm getting quite bad at finding a bargain at shows/trade fairs and then 2 weeks later finding the same one I bought last year :doh:
My mandrawer overfloweth with rubbish so it's hard to find things anyway :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 06, 2014, 12:37:39 PM
Dunno if you folk in the UK know what a 'barbeque mate' is - sort of like a multi-purpose spatula - but I've got two drawers full of 'em. I try to give them away but even me mates don't want to know.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Wild on February 06, 2014, 01:45:46 PM
Bought a bed from a well known high street store. Delivery was promised yesterday between 2pm and 9pm. Got a phone call at 7pm to say they would deliver at 9pm. Got another phone call at 8pm to say they were running late and had to take a break for legal reasons; said they would deliver at 9:45pm. Arrived at 9:45 and installed bed by 10pm.

Read label on bed which said do not use for 4 hours after delivery !!!! They must be joking.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on February 06, 2014, 02:33:29 PM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: BudgieJane on February 07, 2014, 12:15:59 PM
Got a phone call yesterday asking for my partner. "Is Mrs S. available?"
"No," I said.
"Oh. Um, ..., um," and he hung up.

If only he had asked the right questions!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on February 09, 2014, 07:56:49 PM
Having just spent my monthly limit on track/ lectrics etc the TV downstairs decides to throw a wobbly.
We`ve had it since the beginning of 2009 but it seems like the power regulators getting tired.
I only watch about an hour a day during meal times but SWMBO relies on it.
I stream telly through this PC in the bedroom. A far more civilised way to watch it  :)  especially since we went fibre optic to the cabinet last November and run at 72meg download with no usage limit
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on February 10, 2014, 04:49:57 PM
 >:( The cost of new TVs today  :doh: Still at least SWMBO only wanted a HD job without any of the up to date add ons such as 3D and net connection.
Told her she would have to make do with the old stuttering one till the new one arrives.Bit later I told her it arrives Wednesday. I think I`m in her good book (for once)  :angel:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Wild on February 12, 2014, 10:24:22 AM
They say bad luck comes in threes:

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on February 12, 2014, 01:51:22 PM
Quote from: Bob Wild on February 12, 2014, 10:24:22 AM
They say bad luck comes in threes:


  • Spent hours cutting out the walls for my Scalescenes station, then found that my brassmaster etched window frames wouldn't fit. The original download was OO gauge so I scaled them down before printing. Must have had a senior moment cos discovered that the scaling was all wrong.
  • My DMU is broken - I'm told the motor is dead. It's still under guarantee but the shop says it is out of production, so I must send it back to Bachman.
  • Some idiot has scraped the side of my car in a supermarket car park

If it's within the two years sales of goods cover then providing it wasn't fit for purpose (it hasn't failed through you abusing it) then you can also return the item to the shop and ask to be refunded. Depends if you still want that model.

Bachmann uses a small number of very standard motors so apart from the hassle of getting it back to Bachmann (make sure they pay the postage) even though its out of production it's probably not a big problem to get fixed up.


Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NTrain on February 12, 2014, 06:13:59 PM
I have had a number of packages getting caught for customs duty. Fair enough, it is part of dealing with foreign suppliers, so I may not like it, but nothing to get angry about.

However, Parcelforce charge £12 handling fee and the Royal Mail charge £8, other companies have similar charges. Again, nothing to get angry about.

Both of the above carriers have websites where you can make your payment for the charges, and it is quite simple to use. Again, nothing to get angry about. You make your payment and agree a date for delivery, then sometimes you get the delivery as promised and sometimes you don't.  :veryangry:

When you ring up to chase delivery, it sounds like it is a manual process which releases the parcel and sometimes this get missed.  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ParkeNd on February 12, 2014, 10:30:41 PM
Quote from: NTrain on February 12, 2014, 06:13:59 PM
I have had a number of packages getting caught for customs duty. Fair enough, it is part of dealing with foreign suppliers, so I may not like it, but nothing to get angry about.

However, Parcelforce charge £12 handling fee and the Royal Mail charge £8, other companies have similar charges. Again, nothing to get angry about.

Both of the above carriers have websites where you can make your payment for the charges, and it is quite simple to use. Again, nothing to get angry about. You make your payment and agree a date for delivery, then sometimes you get the delivery as promised and sometimes you don't.  :veryangry:

When you ring up to chase delivery, it sounds like it is a manual process which releases the parcel and sometimes this get missed.  :veryangry:

During all my time as a Logistics Manager, which amongst other things involved getting components here from all over the world, I reckoned I could get anyone to do anything - except HMC. They are a law unto themselves and there is nothing you can do about it. So, referring to teeth, just grit and bear it. They will talk to you, they will give you endless status reports - but they won't move at your speed.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on February 12, 2014, 10:36:51 PM
Had an interesting chat with the postie at the local sorting office on this subject.

Customs charge goes straight to HMRC (aka the Government) as we all know, but what I didn't know is that "handling charge" of £8 (or whatever) is nothing to do with the Royal Mail - they are TOLD to charge it and then have to hand it over to . . . yes, you guessed it . . . the Government!!  >:(

Blatantly milking you twice for the same thing  :headbutt:


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on February 13, 2014, 08:56:39 AM
Had to pay tax and that £8 handling charge on an overseas shipment yesterday.

The PO bit doubled what was due in 'legitimate' tax.

Bit like the fuel duty added to petrol and diesel and then they add VAT to the total. Double whammy.

Dave G

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tim-pelican on February 13, 2014, 01:12:41 PM
Quote from: NTrain on February 12, 2014, 06:13:59 PM
However, Parcelforce charge £12 handling fee and the Royal Mail charge £8, other companies have similar charges. Again, nothing to get angry about.

I get quite angry about it - it seems an entirely unreasonable charge for collecting a tax that I effectively have no other way of paying.  (Trying to pay import duty / VAT on things in advance?  Good luck!)

The other one that annoys me is them taking the full shipping amount into account.  I have neither bought nor consumed transatlantic shipping in the UK.  It's none of gov.uk's damn business, the same as when I buy other services that have no UK component.  (I do this for a number of computing / network services, and I don't pay tax on them).    I've bought shipping from the point of arrival in the UK to my house, and they're welcome to tax me on that.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 13, 2014, 03:00:25 PM
What's even worse it the P.O. have told me it's a complete post code lottery as to whether the 'handling charge' is applied :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: BudgieJane on February 13, 2014, 11:54:26 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on February 13, 2014, 03:00:25 PM
What's even worse it the P.O. have told me it's a complete post code lottery as to whether the 'handling charge' is applied :veryangry:

Sometimes it seems to me to be a lottery as to whether the customs duty is applied as well. [I'm not talking about items of small value here.]
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ParkeNd on February 14, 2014, 12:17:34 AM
For photographic goods there are a number of companies discussed regularly on the forums who ship UK spec goods from Hong Kong. Despite repeated warnings from forum members about import duty etc nobody ever seems to get caught for VAT, import duty, or handling charges. Freshly fuelled by having to pay about 27% for three taxes on the purchase price of a mint Nikon F2 bought on eBay from Florida I looked up the three duty percentages from Hong Kong - all 0%. So there does seem to be some kind of advantage given to Hong Kong exporters even if this is a deliberate device.

Is there a model train supplier getting say Dapol and Farish UK products in the same way from Hong Kong. The cost saving on cameras is about 25%.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on February 14, 2014, 07:45:49 PM
Been having some problems with my right eye for the past week - flashing lights, loads of floaters and soreness. Bit of a panic, as thought it might be detached retina. Phoned optician, who said go straight to A & E. Only 20 mins walk away, so walked up there (dry but cloudy), and arrived at reception at 11.30. Seen by triage nurse at 12.00, then by nurse practitioner/ENT, who did a thorough check but could find nothing. Was going to refer me up to opthalmic consultant clinic, but spoke to her and she would not see me, but told to tell me to go to optician! Left at 13.00 and walked home in high wind and horizontal rain, and got soaked. Phoned optician again, and luckily got appointment for tomorrow afternoon, to see their consultant.
Net result: long wait in A & E (expected), check over but no result, appointment with optician tomorrow , that I could have arranged this morning, got soaked. If my retina is detaching, I will be less than a happy bunny, especially if it goes overnight, like my father's did, resulting in loss of sight in that eye.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on February 14, 2014, 07:56:01 PM
Hope it's nothing that serious, Kipper!

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 14, 2014, 09:21:24 PM
Eek! :o
Hope everything turns out OK, Kipper :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on February 14, 2014, 09:55:45 PM
Hope its nothing serious kipper and that all is soon sorted out
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 15, 2014, 12:30:20 AM
Good luck with that one, Kipper. Sounds like you get the same runaround there as we do here in Aus.

All the very best with the eye problem.... hope all turns out ok.

George
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 15, 2014, 01:32:22 AM
Here's something that receives a lot of coverage in the local press here in my home town (and has been for years now), but still nothing has been done. I had to go and collect my daughter who was returning from Sydney the other day, and was reminded of the sad state of affairs here.

This is my my closest railway station. As can be seen, it is a island platform.

[smg id=10230 type=preview align=center width=400]

The only access to the platform is by footbridge (and is that old stationmaster's house the Kestrel gatekeeper's cottage kit or what?!)

[smg id=10232 type=preview align=center width=400]

This is via steps to the platform....

[smg id=10233 type=preview align=center width=400]

....and to the street. They were only upgraded a year or so ago. You should have seen them before! It's a wonder nobody's foot went through 'em.

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Anyway, what's my beef? It is perfectly obvious that lifts are long overdue - but what makes the issue a ZILLION times worse is that many stations further up the line had lifts installed years ago.... but on through up and down platforms which have a road overbridge at the end of them with ramp and road access to them!

Yet here we have an ISLAND platform without lifts, people have petitioned, the local media have pushed the issue, and still no lifts. I have seen elderly people struggling on those stairs (me included) and getting a wheelchair onto that platform must be a nightmare.  :veryangry: :veryangry:

Anyway, me daughter's train actually arrived on time for once (even if it was the wrong platform)...

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[smg id=10241 type=preview align=center width=400]

And let's hope that hole they're digging is for local counsellors...  :veryangry: :veryangry:

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Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 15, 2014, 11:04:07 AM
Let's hope your councillors are tall and thin, George :dighole:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on February 15, 2014, 12:56:35 PM
Be careful what you wish for, you could end up with a ramp something like this.

(http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/RZ45eohxvW7IXjbIwsWpJA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Y2g9MjQwMDtjcj0xO2N3PTM2MDA7ZHg9MDtkeT0wO2ZpPXVsY3JvcDtoPTQyMDtxPTg1O3c9NjMw/http://l.yimg.com/os/publish-images/news/2014-02-13/3606c200-94b9-11e3-98ee-8d45991f329d_SWNS_GARDEN_RAMP_16.jpg)

Full story HERE (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/mum-wityh-disabled-daughter-campaigns-for-wheelchair-ramp---and-gets-%C2%A340-000--slalom--eyesore-143242677.html#XtFFXGK)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on February 15, 2014, 01:51:36 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on February 15, 2014, 12:56:35 PM
Be careful what you wish for, you could end up with a ramp something like this.

(http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/RZ45eohxvW7IXjbIwsWpJA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Y2g9MjQwMDtjcj0xO2N3PTM2MDA7ZHg9MDtkeT0wO2ZpPXVsY3JvcDtoPTQyMDtxPTg1O3c9NjMw/http://l.yimg.com/os/publish-images/news/2014-02-13/3606c200-94b9-11e3-98ee-8d45991f329d_SWNS_GARDEN_RAMP_16.jpg)

Full story HERE (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/mum-wityh-disabled-daughter-campaigns-for-wheelchair-ramp---and-gets-%C2%A340-000--slalom--eyesore-143242677.html#XtFFXGK)
Is that the latest form of helix  :-\
A sad tale though.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on February 15, 2014, 02:04:26 PM
I was surprised to see the council housed her in a house like that in the first place.

My wife has MS and is bedbound and sometimes uses a wheel chair but, when being
rehoused the council and the OT people sorted out a house with a level garden at the
front, wide doors leading outside with low steps  (1.5") and interior doors 33" wide.
They are in about 6 months time going to fit a through floor lift as well. The OT people
turned down 6 houses as unsuitable for wheelchair access.

So, as I said - why did the council move them there in the first place ???

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on February 15, 2014, 04:26:11 PM
Went to opticians this afternoon, and seen by consultant. Did a thorough check, with the equipment available. Put drops in and had a look at inside of eye. Diagnosis of drying up of the gel that forms the eye, causing it to pull away from retina. 98% of people with it have no other problems, other 2% do. Mainly a problem for short fat older people (I am not that short!). Booked into eye clinic at Queens Medical Centre for more in depth examination on Monday morning. Getting more amazed at the efficiency and speed that the NHS is capable of these days.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 16, 2014, 01:43:41 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on February 15, 2014, 12:56:35 PM
Be careful what you wish for, you could end up with a ramp something like this.

That is unbelievable. I can see it would be a magnet for skateboarders. Must be like living inside a nightmare.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ParkeNd on February 16, 2014, 08:58:41 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on February 15, 2014, 12:56:35 PM
Be careful what you wish for, you could end up with a ramp something like this.

(http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/RZ45eohxvW7IXjbIwsWpJA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Y2g9MjQwMDtjcj0xO2N3PTM2MDA7ZHg9MDtkeT0wO2ZpPXVsY3JvcDtoPTQyMDtxPTg1O3c9NjMw/http://l.yimg.com/os/publish-images/news/2014-02-13/3606c200-94b9-11e3-98ee-8d45991f329d_SWNS_GARDEN_RAMP_16.jpg)

Full story HERE (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/mum-wityh-disabled-daughter-campaigns-for-wheelchair-ramp---and-gets-%C2%A340-000--slalom--eyesore-143242677.html#XtFFXGK)

That is one fabulous skateboard park.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on February 16, 2014, 09:49:50 AM
TL:DR - the story mentions that the local skater kids have already started using it and the resident wants a gate installed. Local council have refused as the gate would need to be outward opening 'and that would block the pavement' - local authority idiocy upon local authority idiocy...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 16, 2014, 11:13:16 AM
Oh for crying out loud. This is like something from Monty Python.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on February 16, 2014, 11:17:52 AM
Quote from: Bealman on February 16, 2014, 11:13:16 AM
Oh for crying out loud. This is like something from Monty Python.

But on the plus side, it doesn't blow over in the wind, doesn't need trimming and doesn't flood.  A much sought-after residence ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on February 16, 2014, 05:13:46 PM
All the council need do is to install the gate about a metre up the slope!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dock Shunter on February 16, 2014, 07:22:29 PM
Quote from: Bealman on February 16, 2014, 11:13:16 AM
Oh for crying out loud. This is like something from Monty Python.

Quote from: Malc on February 16, 2014, 05:13:46 PM
All the council need do is to install the gate about a metre up the slope!

Ooh no no no.......
That would need to be authorised by both the Dunbartonshire Council Maintenance Department and the Maintenance Department of Dunbartonshire Council and they can never agree on anything...... :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 16, 2014, 10:16:01 PM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on February 17, 2014, 04:31:08 PM
Got the confirmed diagnosis - Posterior Vitreous Detachment. That does not mean my bum has fallen off (heard that twice already)! The gel inside the eye is shrinking, as thought , but thankfully it is doing it slowly. If it was happening fast, it could tear the retina. Black floater has now exploded into a grey cloud, which is less obvious already, and my brain will choose to ignore all the spots over a few days.
Now, back to the trains.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on February 17, 2014, 05:19:13 PM
Better news than first feared and your bum isn't falling off either!  ;)

Pleased to hear it, Kipper.

Take care.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 17, 2014, 09:25:21 PM
Just as well your bum hasn't fallen off, Kipper.
We wouldn't want you getting behind on your layout :no: :-X
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 17, 2014, 10:27:53 PM
That's like that kid who was born with a golden belly button. All the kids at school would make fun of him about it, so one day he got so fed up with it, he got a screwdriver and removed it.

That's when his bum fell off.

Good to hear it's not as serious as you thought!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on February 17, 2014, 10:52:23 PM
Thanks for all your thoughts folks.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 21, 2014, 02:27:05 PM
10 days ago I got my driving licence (photocard) renewal notice from the DVLA as my licence expires 27.4.14.
As I have a hip replacement op 25.3.14 which will preclude me from driving for 12 weeks, and as I had to travel into Preston today for other reasons, I thought I would make the renewal today. So far........sensible (to me)
At the Post Office I was told that the DVLA would likely charge me the fee and just renew my licence until 27.4.14 - the day it is currently due to expire :o
It was good of the guy to tell me this often happens and he suggested I go back nearer the date, but this is sheer madness/banditry on behalf of the DVLA :veryangry: :veryangry2: :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on February 21, 2014, 02:36:23 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on February 21, 2014, 02:27:05 PM
At the Post Office I was told that the DVLA would likely charge me the fee and just renew my licence until 27.4.14 - the day it is currently due to expire
Not just them, mate ...

I'm a part-time mature student (I say the part-time bit goes with the student bit, but SWMBO disagrees  :-[), and when reminded late last year to renew my SU card, I did; thought I'd use the renewed card as ID for the exam.  Turns out I was a bit early (or rather, they were too early to remind people !), and the stupid  :censored: just sent me out a replacement with an expiry date of the end of that month !  Exactly what bit of it being on a renewal form did they not understand ?  :hmmm:

Wasn't impressed ... got a refund, and let it expire before I renewed again  :hmmm:  If it wasn't for being useful on the ID front, and getting some discounts, I'd not bother ...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on February 21, 2014, 03:59:25 PM
I was at a customers house this afternoon doing a few jobs, and on the last one I had to use my electric planer.  Unfortunately it gave up!   >:(  It never really had much guts, so I've bought the DeWalt D26500.  A real beauty!!!  But, how to pay off the cost of it? ??? :thumbsdown:  The customer is on holiday at the moment, so I'll have to explain why the door isn't finished when they get home. :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on February 21, 2014, 04:41:24 PM
Can't you go back around ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on February 21, 2014, 04:51:45 PM
No, she's back tomorrow and the planer won't be here until Monday.  I'm sure she'll be ok about it, it's just that I like to get everything done and dusted in one hit.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 22, 2014, 12:37:10 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on February 21, 2014, 02:27:05 PM
It was good of the guy to tell me this often happens and he suggested I go back nearer the date, but this is sheer madness/banditry on behalf of the DVLA :veryangry: :veryangry2: :censored:

Good to see the self-moderation being applied to great effect there, NPN!  ;D :thumbsup:

George
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ParkeNd on February 22, 2014, 12:49:27 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on February 21, 2014, 02:27:05 PM
10 days ago I got my driving licence (photocard) renewal notice from the DVLA as my licence expires 27.4.14.
As I have a hip replacement op 25.3.14 which will preclude me from driving for 12 weeks, and as I had to travel into Preston today for other reasons, I thought I would make the renewal today. So far........sensible (to me)
At the Post Office I was told that the DVLA would likely charge me the fee and just renew my licence until 27.4.14 - the day it is currently due to expire :o
It was good of the guy to tell me this often happens and he suggested I go back nearer the date, but this is sheer madness/banditry on behalf of the DVLA :veryangry: :veryangry2: :censored:

Remember when we had to renew our driving licences EVERY year to keep even more of these jobsworths behind desks?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: bridgiesimon on February 22, 2014, 09:52:55 AM
Slight change of direction here but I am well unhappy this morning, I have been expecting to be exhibiting my layout at a show next weekend, not fair to mention where at this stage, after getting a clear invite at a show a few month ago. Having not heard anything I have been chasing the organiser to find (less than a week before the show) I am not needed!!

I have been very busy working on th elayout and getting my stock ready for the show, aaaaaargh!!

Ok the work is not a problem as it would have been done at some popint anyway but I think this is very unprofessional and will not accept offers from this exhibition in the future!

Simon
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 22, 2014, 04:16:57 PM
Quote from: bridgiesimon on February 22, 2014, 09:52:55 AM
I think this is very unprofessional and will not accept offers from this exhibition in the future!

Simon

Even better - accept the invitation then pull out a week before having done no preparation whatsoever >:D

Quote from: Bealman on February 22, 2014, 12:37:10 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on February 21, 2014, 02:27:05 PM
It was good of the guy to tell me this often happens and he suggested I go back nearer the date, but this is sheer madness/banditry on behalf of the DVLA :veryangry: :veryangry2: :censored:

Good to see the self-moderation being applied to great effect there, NPN!  ;D :thumbsup:

George

It was very difficult, George.
Pointless sounding off at the guy in the P.O. because he warned me what could occur, but when I got outside I immediately practised every bit of my fluent Anglo-Saxon :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mickeyflinn on February 23, 2014, 11:00:33 AM
Had just decided to go and buy the Farish Jinty yesterday afternoon, went out to the car to find a very flat rear tyre.
Started to pump it up only to find that some very kind £$%^$&* citizen has stuck what looked like a broken off piece of Stanley knife blade into the sidewall of the tyre >:(.
No model, just a new tyre. Not a happy bunny.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 23, 2014, 11:21:21 AM
Mate, don't fret - it happens here in Australia too, don't you worry.

But if you were on your way to pick up a new Jinty..... Grrrr!

Hope it all gets sorted.  :beers:

George
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Luke Piewalker on February 28, 2014, 06:30:04 PM
I've only been 'back in the game' for about a year so maybe you guys and girls are all used to it, but this patchy/non-existent availability is really beginning to annoy me. Every website I go near it's 'pre-order' item and 'no picture available'. Having to trawl through pages of non existent things to try and find something you can actually but is getting tiresome...  :veryangry:  :veryangry2: :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Paul B on March 02, 2014, 05:22:41 PM
More fed up that angry here...  :(

I had a weekend which was planned out...

Yesterday was going to be the day of doing things that needed doing - shopping, taking the other half to a shop she wanted to go to for her crafts, tidying up at home...

Today was going to be for me - I planned to get my new airbrush kit fully set up, and actually have a go at using it for the first time!  :laugh3:

...unfortunately, the cold I have been fighting with for the last few days has finally come out big time!  :cold:  I just can't face sitting in the spare room, wearing a filter mask (having trouble breathing as it is!) playing around with smelly paints and airbrush cleaning stuff - even though I do have a spray booth with extractor hose going out of the window!

Can't do anything with it next weekend either - it is the Swindon Model Railway Club show on Saturday, and I am helping run one of the club layouts again!

Oh well - they say that these things are sent to try us...  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on March 02, 2014, 07:54:51 PM
Noticed the other day that the pooch had ignored the postman (usually barks like mad at the door), and also slow to react to calling. Yesterday, she kept walking into the wall. Took to vet, and has a relapse of her nerve problem, where she goes deaf and blind for no apparent reason. Used to deal with it by a course of steroids, but not now as she is on other medication for her joints, and they do not go together. Sight returned overnight, but still deaf. Have to wait two weeks, to see if shakes it off, or will have to take her to the Animal Health Trust at Newmarket (a few more thousand from her insurance, less my 10% contribution, so no more Union Mills locos for the time being!). Otherwise a very fit and healthy 12 year old, so the usual alternative is not an option!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GeeBee on March 03, 2014, 02:31:17 AM
Quote from: Paul B on March 02, 2014, 05:22:41 PM
More fed up that angry here...  :(

I had a weekend which was planned out...

Yesterday was going to be the day of doing things that needed doing - shopping, taking the other half to a shop she wanted to go to for her crafts, tidying up at home...

Today was going to be for me - I planned to get my new airbrush kit fully set up, and actually have a go at using it for the first time!  :laugh3:




...unfortunately, the cold I have been fighting with for the last few days has finally come out big time!  :cold:  I just can't face sitting in the spare room, wearing a filter mask (having trouble breathing as it is!) playing around with smelly paints and airbrush cleaning stuff - even though I do have a spray booth with extractor hose going out of the window!

Can't do anything with it next weekend either - it is the Swindon Model Railway Club show on Saturday, and I am helping run one of the club layouts again!

Oh well - they say that these things are sent to try us...  :'(

Hope you are fit for next weekend maybe I can see you there
:cold:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Paul B on March 03, 2014, 07:39:26 PM
I intend to be - as long as it is only a cold and not full-blown man-flu!  :D

I will be on the SMRC's N-gauge layout 'Fisher Bridge' - the layout wasn't even supposed to be at this years show (which meant I would probably have been taking money on the door...  :worried: ) but Steam Museum have given us the large exhibition hall rather than the small hall we had last year - and the show had already been organised around the small hall!  :o So it was a case of 'filling the gaps' and I was asked to run Fisher Bridge again!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mark37/4 on March 03, 2014, 08:05:21 PM
Quote from: Paul B on March 02, 2014, 05:22:41 PM
More fed up that angry here...  :(

I had a weekend which was planned out...

Yesterday was going to be the day of doing things that needed doing - shopping, taking the other half to a shop she wanted to go to for her crafts, tidying up at home...

Today was going to be for me - I planned to get my new airbrush kit fully set up, and actually have a go at using it for the first time!  :laugh3:

...unfortunately, the cold I have been fighting with for the last few days has finally come out big time!  :cold:  I just can't face sitting in the spare room, wearing a filter mask (having trouble breathing as it is!) playing around with smelly paints and airbrush cleaning stuff - even though I do have a spray booth with extractor hose going out of the window!

Can't do anything with it next weekend either - it is the Swindon Model Railway Club show on Saturday, and I am helping run one of the club layouts again!

Oh well - they say that these things are sent to try us...  :'(


I get a annual cold, last year went to see a class 70 on a rail tour, bloody barking like mad, Managed to stay long enough when 70004 arrive I gave in as  i was  frozen :cold: :cold: plus the camera had died  :veryangry: :veryangry:

had it this year, which was annoying  :veryangry:

Mark
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GeeBee on March 03, 2014, 08:29:58 PM
Quote from: Paul B on March 03, 2014, 07:39:26 PM
I intend to be - as long as it is only a cold and not full-blown man-flu!  :D

I will be on the SMRC's N-gauge layout 'Fisher Bridge' - the layout wasn't even supposed to be at this years show (which meant I would probably have been taking money on the door...  :worried: ) but Steam Museum have given us the large exhibition hall rather than the small hall we had last year - and the show had already been organised around the small hall!  :o So it was a case of 'filling the gaps' and I was asked to run Fisher Bridge again!

Sounds like it's all happening for you at the moment see you there
Graham
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Stuart on March 03, 2014, 08:58:38 PM
In response to Kipper, very sorry to hear about your pooch. As a fellow animal lover and pet owner I really hope all works out well. It's very upsetting when your chum is ill.
Stuart
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on March 03, 2014, 10:52:48 PM
As I had the dreaded man flu (according to the wife) last week I may make it to Swindon on Saturday. It also depends on the alcohol intake on the Friday night though so I'm not going to make any rash promises just yet  8)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on March 05, 2014, 08:54:06 PM
Quote from: Stuart on March 03, 2014, 08:58:38 PM
In response to Kipper, very sorry to hear about your pooch. As a fellow animal lover and pet owner I really hope all works out well. It's very upsetting when your chum is ill.
Stuart
Cheers Stuart. She has slowly improved since the weekend, having got full sight back, and can just hear loud noises, so looking good. She seems to get these attacks about every 18 months, due to spinal nerve pressure around her shoulder blades. If it was her lower back, she would have walking difficulties. Seems to happen for no apparent reason.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on March 09, 2014, 09:11:20 PM
Am having a pleasant long weekend in Driffield visiting with in laws.  It took some persuading but convinced everyone, with the lure of fish & chips to go through to Scarborough today because, given the listing on Uk Model Shops, The Train Shop is open everyday except Wednesdays http://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/shops/8-TheTrainShop (http://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/shops/8-TheTrainShop)
No it bloomin isn't, he doesn't open on Sundays either, something that isn't even mentioned on the opening times sign in the door, the one below the big CLOSED sign.
Complete waste of time, petrol and cost me a shed load at the chippie and din't even get a look round :veryangry: :veryangry:
Yes Arrow Toys was open but apart from one Z gauge Marklin set it was all 00   :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on March 10, 2014, 07:18:07 AM
Frustrating when the online info isn't up to date, Lawrence. Sorry you had a bit of a wasted day plus the chippie bill!

I'm afraid I don't rely on that particular site, not that I think it's all 'their' fault. If they don't get valid info, they can't share it. Perhaps an email to UK Model Shops may help others being as disappointed as you.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 10, 2014, 08:27:32 AM
Serves yerself right for gannin to Scarborough on a Sunday. OOOh..... he said, from a safe distance.....  :D :thumbsup:

George
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ParkeNd on March 10, 2014, 08:33:37 AM
Quote from: Lawrence on March 09, 2014, 09:11:20 PM
Am having a pleasant long weekend in Driffield visiting with in laws.  It took some persuading but convinced everyone, with the lure of fish & chips to go through to Scarborough today because, given the listing on Uk Model Shops, The Train Shop is open everyday except Wednesdays http://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/shops/8-TheTrainShop (http://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/shops/8-TheTrainShop)
No it bloomin isn't, he doesn't open on Sundays either, something that isn't even mentioned on the opening times sign in the door, the one below the big CLOSED sign.
Complete waste of time, petrol and cost me a shed load at the chippie and din't even get a look round :veryangry: :veryangry:
Yes Arrow Toys was open but apart from one Z gauge Marklin set it was all 00   :censored:

Complete waste of time?  Had someone removed the sea and the beach as well?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 10, 2014, 10:02:08 AM
Not really angry, just disappointed. Went round the Warwick show yesterday and saw some really first class layouts, with nothing going on. After standing around for a couple of minutes, moved on to the next one, only to find the same thing.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 10, 2014, 10:08:40 AM
Isn't Warwick a sort of major show over there? That's sad.... any other members thoughts?

George
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on March 10, 2014, 03:32:49 PM
Not content with a sick pooch, I got the results of my blood test today. Very low platelet count (should be 140 minimum, but mine much lower), so another blood test to verify result, then, if confirmed low, see where we go from there. Overlapping with my oncology appointment, so GP may get hospital involved, just in case!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 10, 2014, 04:24:12 PM
Dear me Kipper, you don't have a lot of luck do you. Hope it is something simple and it gets sorted quickly.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ParkeNd on March 10, 2014, 05:08:38 PM
I have to have blood tests twice a year. You can at least have fun with the official terms.

I always announce to the receptionist that "I have come to be flebotomised by the flebotomist in the flebotomy department."

If anyone knows any more grammatical derivations of the word flebotomy then let me know and I will work it into my intro. Be quick though because my next appointment is this Wednesday.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on March 10, 2014, 05:28:33 PM
When I go for mine I just ask if the 'vampire' is in  ::)

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 10, 2014, 06:19:27 PM
Being a diabetic, I too have blood tests twice a year. Once, it was a locum flebotomist and they had moved her to an upstairs room and she said "would you like to come upstairs?" Well, with a feed line like that, I replied that I hadn't had an offer like that for some time. We both fell about laughing. When I went for the results, the regular nurse asked me what I'd been saying to her staff. The story had gone all round the surgery, so be careful what you say.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ParkeNd on March 10, 2014, 06:34:33 PM
I have always been mightily respectful to our surgeries young blonde flebotomist since she is going to stick a needle in my vein and keep drawing off containers of blood which can be any size she wants and any number she wants.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GeeBee on March 10, 2014, 06:53:35 PM
I have to have blood checks every month at the moment to check my white blood cell count this has gone on since Feb 2013 now they're checking to see if I am anemic you just can't win
:scowl:  :confused2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on March 10, 2014, 09:10:42 PM
Quote from: ParkeNd on March 10, 2014, 08:33:37 AM
Quote from: Lawrence on March 09, 2014, 09:11:20 PM
Am having a pleasant long weekend in Driffield visiting with in laws.  It took some persuading but convinced everyone, with the lure of fish & chips to go through to Scarborough today because, given the listing on Uk Model Shops, The Train Shop is open everyday except Wednesdays http://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/shops/8-TheTrainShop (http://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/shops/8-TheTrainShop)
No it bloomin isn't, he doesn't open on Sundays either, something that isn't even mentioned on the opening times sign in the door, the one below the big CLOSED sign.
Complete waste of time, petrol and cost me a shed load at the chippie and din't even get a look round :veryangry: :veryangry:
Yes Arrow Toys was open but apart from one Z gauge Marklin set it was all 00   :censored:

Complete waste of time?  Had someone removed the sea and the beach as well?

Yes it was.  Please read the post, I didn't go for the sea and the beach, I can do that at home, I went specifically to visit the two model shops that were supposed to be open.  Most of the beach was now on the road anyway!  Following a 6 1/2 half hour drive South, then another hour in snarled up in traffic to get there I was not in the best humour, and stupid comments like yours don't really help!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ParkeNd on March 10, 2014, 10:50:11 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on March 10, 2014, 09:10:42 PM
Quote from: ParkeNd on March 10, 2014, 08:33:37 AM
Quote from: Lawrence on March 09, 2014, 09:11:20 PM
Am having a pleasant long weekend in Driffield visiting with in laws.  It took some persuading but convinced everyone, with the lure of fish & chips to go through to Scarborough today because, given the listing on Uk Model Shops, The Train Shop is open everyday except Wednesdays http://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/shops/8-TheTrainShop (http://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/shops/8-TheTrainShop)
No it bloomin isn't, he doesn't open on Sundays either, something that isn't even mentioned on the opening times sign in the door, the one below the big CLOSED sign.
Complete waste of time, petrol and cost me a shed load at the chippie and din't even get a look round :veryangry: :veryangry:
Yes Arrow Toys was open but apart from one Z gauge Marklin set it was all 00   :censored:

Complete waste of time?  Had someone removed the sea and the beach as well?

Yes it was.  Please read the post, I didn't go for the sea and the beach, I can do that at home, I went specifically to visit the two model shops that were supposed to be open.  Most of the beach was now on the road anyway!  Following a 6 1/2 half hour drive South, then another hour in snarled up in traffic to get there I was not in the best humour, and stupid comments like yours don't really help!

I can now understand your anger Lawrence.

If you check the following you will see that The Train Shop at Scarborough is open Sundays - but only between 11.30 and 12.30. Bottom RH corner of screen.

http://www.yell.com/biz/the-train-shop-scarborough-7589298/ (http://www.yell.com/biz/the-train-shop-scarborough-7589298/)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on March 10, 2014, 11:01:43 PM
Quote from: ParkeNd on March 10, 2014, 10:50:11 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on March 10, 2014, 09:10:42 PM
Quote from: ParkeNd on March 10, 2014, 08:33:37 AM
Quote from: Lawrence on March 09, 2014, 09:11:20 PM
Am having a pleasant long weekend in Driffield visiting with in laws.  It took some persuading but convinced everyone, with the lure of fish & chips to go through to Scarborough today because, given the listing on Uk Model Shops, The Train Shop is open everyday except Wednesdays http://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/shops/8-TheTrainShop (http://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/shops/8-TheTrainShop)
No it bloomin isn't, he doesn't open on Sundays either, something that isn't even mentioned on the opening times sign in the door, the one below the big CLOSED sign.
Complete waste of time, petrol and cost me a shed load at the chippie and din't even get a look round :veryangry: :veryangry:
Yes Arrow Toys was open but apart from one Z gauge Marklin set it was all 00   :censored:

Complete waste of time?  Had someone removed the sea and the beach as well?

Yes it was.  Please read the post, I didn't go for the sea and the beach, I can do that at home, I went specifically to visit the two model shops that were supposed to be open.  Most of the beach was now on the road anyway!  Following a 6 1/2 half hour drive South, then another hour in snarled up in traffic to get there I was not in the best humour, and stupid comments like yours don't really help!

I can now understand your anger Lawrence.

If you check the following you will see that The Train Shop at Scarborough is open Sundays - but only between 11.30 and 12.30. Bottom RH corner of screen.

http://www.yell.com/biz/the-train-shop-scarborough-7589298/ (http://www.yell.com/biz/the-train-shop-scarborough-7589298/)

The times on your link do indeed state 11-30 to 12-30 but, in the original link:

http://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/shops/8-TheTrainShop (http://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/shops/8-TheTrainShop)

it does not say. It does however say its only closed on Wednesday and is open from 10-30
on all other days. There is also no mention of Sunday times on the Open hours card on the
door.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ParkeNd on March 10, 2014, 11:07:42 PM
Quote from: Oldun on March 10, 2014, 11:01:43 PM
Quote from: ParkeNd on March 10, 2014, 10:50:11 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on March 10, 2014, 09:10:42 PM
Quote from: ParkeNd on March 10, 2014, 08:33:37 AM
Quote from: Lawrence on March 09, 2014, 09:11:20 PM
Am having a pleasant long weekend in Driffield visiting with in laws.  It took some persuading but convinced everyone, with the lure of fish & chips to go through to Scarborough today because, given the listing on Uk Model Shops, The Train Shop is open everyday except Wednesdays http://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/shops/8-TheTrainShop (http://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/shops/8-TheTrainShop)
No it bloomin isn't, he doesn't open on Sundays either, something that isn't even mentioned on the opening times sign in the door, the one below the big CLOSED sign.
Complete waste of time, petrol and cost me a shed load at the chippie and din't even get a look round :veryangry: :veryangry:
Yes Arrow Toys was open but apart from one Z gauge Marklin set it was all 00   :censored:

Complete waste of time?  Had someone removed the sea and the beach as well?

Yes it was.  Please read the post, I didn't go for the sea and the beach, I can do that at home, I went specifically to visit the two model shops that were supposed to be open.  Most of the beach was now on the road anyway!  Following a 6 1/2 half hour drive South, then another hour in snarled up in traffic to get there I was not in the best humour, and stupid comments like yours don't really help!

I can now understand your anger Lawrence.

If you check the following you will see that The Train Shop at Scarborough is open Sundays - but only between 11.30 and 12.30. Bhottom RH corner of screen.

http://www.yell.com/biz/the-train-shop-scarborough-7589298/ (http://www.yell.com/biz/the-train-shop-scarborough-7589298/)

The times on your link do indeed state 11-30 to 12-30 but, in the original link:

http://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/shops/8-TheTrainShop (http://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/shops/8-TheTrainShop)

it does not say. It does however say its only closed on Wednesday and is open from 10-30
on all other days. There is also no mention of Sunday times on the Open hours card on the
door.

On the original link it also advises that if you are travelling a long way that you should phone ahead and check if the shop is open

A little more effort in view of the distance and time involved would have paid dividends. It took me under 2 minutes to find their Sunday opening hours.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on March 10, 2014, 11:23:22 PM
 :admiration: Indeed it does, thank you.

Whilst on the subject of shops and their opening times. How does one go about the search engines
re 'model/railway shops and their location' that still list shops that have closed down and no longer
exist, and yes I have emailed/informed them where there is a link for this purpose, and yet months
later these shops are still listed ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 11, 2014, 12:21:22 AM
Quote from: ParkeNd on March 10, 2014, 05:08:38 PM
I have to have blood tests twice a year. You can at least have fun with the official terms.

I always announce to the receptionist that "I have come to be flebotomised by the flebotomist in the flebotomy department."

If anyone knows any more grammatical derivations of the word flebotomy then let me know and I will work it into my intro. Be quick though because my next appointment is this Wednesday.

As a person who suffers from the opposite of anemia -haemochromatosis - iron overload, I undergo a phlebotomy on a MONTHLY basis and I am afraid I find nothing amusing about the word. I find it an unpleasant procedure as the nurse uses the same vein all the time, and that vein is getting very tired.

Haemochromatosis is a serious condition, which left untreated, will kill. The only treatment is to dump a bag of blood (not a phial or two, but a bag) on a regular basis, so that the new blood that the body replaces it with has more normal iron levels.

I am not a blood donor. The blood is useless and is dumped straight into the medical waste bin. I have been doing this now for two years, but do not like talking about my own problems much - however, I have been prompted to by some entries on this thread.

The high end of normal for iron is around 150. I started off with a reading of 2300!!

The good news for me is that as of last wednesday, the time of my last blood dump, my ferritin count is down to 651, the lowest it has been. The doc says if I can get it down to about 300 or so, I can ease back on the dumps.

That's my goal - as I am totally over the whole thing, I can assure you.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on March 11, 2014, 09:31:04 PM
Hey gents, this is not really the right thread as I am ABSOLUTELY not angry about what I do (sorry Mods,  :offtopicsign:), but seeing as its being discussed here I will chip in...

QuoteNot content with a sick pooch, I got the results of my blood test today. Very low platelet count (should be 140 minimum, but mine much lower), so another blood test to verify result, then, if confirmed low, see where we go from there. Overlapping with my oncology appointment, so GP may get hospital involved, just in case!

QuoteAs a person who suffers from the opposite of anemia -haemochromatosis - iron overload, I undergo a phlebotomy on a MONTHLY basis and I am afraid I find nothing amusing about the word. I find it an unpleasant procedure as the nurse uses the same vein all the time, and that vein is getting very tired.

Kipper, Bealman, very sorry to hear of your conditions.

I am what is known as a platelet donor. Every three weeks or so I go and get hooked up to a machine for 60 to 80 minutes and it sucks out (well, more scientific but it does something complex!) my spare platelets whilst I sit and watch a DVD or similar. 

I do wince when they put the needle in (can sympathise with you Bealman) as it needs to be quite big (three tubes connected) but the nurses are all extremely nice and I get much tea and biscuits. Besides I am happy to do it as its what I consider my charity effort, as I give two adult doses and the doctor who signed me up went to great pains to stress that platelets are vital for chemotherapy in young people.

If I could ask where my donation went, you fine gents would be welcome to some platelets  :)

Skyline2uk 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on March 12, 2014, 10:22:40 AM
Never had a problem with BT internet until now, we have been told there is a fault on the line but for them to come out and if they find the fault is inside the house then they can charge us £130 now that makes my blood curdle, they are so good at taking your money but when you ask for a little service they want to charge the earth, I could buy a decent loco with that money.  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 12, 2014, 10:38:25 AM
I had a problem with no service or phone. I measured across the line and there were no volts. I got the same message about a charge, but I told them if the fault was not on my premises, I wanted a refund. Sure enough, there was a problem with water ingress into the box on the pole outside. I got 2 weeks free. So it does seem to work both ways.  Make sure you disconnect any extensions to your phone before they come out, just in case.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 12, 2014, 11:02:54 AM
Skyline2uk:

I have a couple of ex-workmates who do the same thing, and most admirable it is, too. Good on ya, mate! I know it takes longer than a normal blood donation but is very highly valued by the medical profession.

I just wish that mine was of some use , but unfortunately into the bin it goes.

But thanks for the kind words!!  :thumbsup:

All the best,

George
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on March 12, 2014, 11:49:37 AM
Yes, may I say a big thank you to Skyline2uk, and all others who donate blood, platelets, bone marrow and all the other things that other people rely on, to prolong their life.
Hope I will not need anything, and the results were a glitch, but will find out results of latest bloodtest later today or tomorrow (GP has a random Wednesday closure for training, so may be closed today pm!!!).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 12, 2014, 12:17:13 PM
Good luck, buddy.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

George
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on March 12, 2014, 01:18:11 PM
Quote from: Geoff on March 12, 2014, 10:22:40 AM
Never had a problem with BT internet until now, we have been told there is a fault on the line but for them to come out and if they find the fault is inside the house then they can charge us £130 now that makes my blood curdle, they are so good at taking your money but when you ask for a little service they want to charge the earth, I could buy a decent loco with that money.  :veryangry:

Don't blame BT, blame the idiot that decided privatising utilities was a good idea ;)

Standard practice I'm afraid, they are only responsible for faults up to the main socket, in much the same way that our privatised water companies are only liable up to your service pipe into the property - anything inside from there is your responsibility and if their 'agent' is called out on a false errand someone has to foot the bill. Stinks I know but that's business, not service, for you :thumbsdown: Also the newspapers at this point would make a big deal of "BT makes £x profit per second!" in an attempt to criminalise them but BT's profits come from international and other sectors, they are not allowed to cross-subsidise the residential side by law, and domestic phone lines rarely if ever make a profit at all ;) Sorry if I sound like an advert for BT here but I worked for them for 7 years and got fed up with getting stick for whatever sensationalist claptrap the papers were touting at the time ::) Best advice is as Malc said - disconnect any extensions and try more than one phone in the main socket if you have a spare one. Hope it's sorted soon :thumbsup:

On a different note - I'm booked in to give my 50th blood donation in about three weeks time! :)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on March 12, 2014, 02:15:32 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on March 12, 2014, 01:18:11 PM
Don't blame BT, blame the idiot that decided privatising utilities was a good idea ;)

Oh god no don't go back.. at least you don't have to wait a month for a phone to be installed any more.

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on March 12, 2014, 02:38:36 PM
So I take it the white BT Openreach box and the BT home hub is my responsibility, so if one of them has broken then there goes £130.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on March 12, 2014, 07:11:32 PM
Presumably the white BT Openreach box is your main socket? If so then that and anything up to it is their responsibility and comes under the maintenance contract paid for by your line rental. As for the Home hub I would think that is actually covered under your broadband supply since they supplied it in the first place ;) It's internal extension sockets, telephones, etc that are not covered and likely to incur charges if they find the fault is caused by them - cheap telephones from places like Argos are good for this! ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on March 13, 2014, 10:03:23 AM
Quote from: Sprintex on March 12, 2014, 07:11:32 PM
Presumably the white BT Openreach box is your main socket? If so then that and anything up to it is their responsibility and comes under the maintenance contract paid for by your line rental. As for the Home hub I would think that is actually covered under your broadband supply since they supplied it in the first place ;) It's internal extension sockets, telephones, etc that are not covered and likely to incur charges if they find the fault is caused by them - cheap telephones from places like Argos are good for this! ;)


Paul

Well I have no extension sockets, it will be interesting to see what they find, they will be round before 1pm.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on March 13, 2014, 10:27:55 AM
I lost my BT connection, the fault was a connection box inside the house, but it was fixed without charge by
BT which I thought was quite good. My internet is on BT as is my phone, the biggest problem is navigating their website which is not very clear or user friendly for my purposes.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on March 13, 2014, 12:05:39 PM
Engineer just been it was a faulty Openreach DSL box and no charge yippee, great service well done BT.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: FeelixTC on March 13, 2014, 03:01:43 PM
Quote from: Geoff on March 13, 2014, 12:05:39 PM
Engineer just been it was a faulty Openreach DSL box and no charge yippee, great service well done BT.

Due 'Before 1.00pm' and sorted by 12.05pm? You've done very well Geoff; last time I called BT out, they said they'd be round sometime between 8.00am and August.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 13, 2014, 04:45:00 PM
Great result, Geoff :beers:

Quote from: FeelixTC on March 13, 2014, 03:01:43 PM

Due 'Before 1.00pm' and sorted by 12.05pm? You've done very well Geoff; last time I called BT out, they said they'd be round sometime between 8.00am and August.

Reminds me of a guy in Moscow who ordered a gas cooker from the showroom. They said delivery would be in 6 months time. The Muskovite just replied "Will that be morning or afternoon?" The showroom salesperson looked astonished and asked "Does it matter?".
The reply came back "Yes - the electrician is coming in the morning" :-X
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: 4x2 on March 13, 2014, 08:05:45 PM
I've had a stinker of a afternoon.... :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

My car's gearbox has been noisy for a few weeks (gearbox on order but hard to come by...) and today it finally got serious, as it got so hot it started smoking !  :doh: Addmittingly, I feared this may happen but put the blinkers on and ignored the possibilty. I then did a 70 mile round trip and it decided to bite me in the butt...  :help:

I did top the up the gearbox yesterday, it is possible i may have overfilled it but i'll have to look into it (!) when I get the chance. I just hope I can still drive it to work until the new gearbox arrives.....

P.S. What is it with modern microwaves ???
It takes 1 min for my hotdog apparently... 2 mins later the cheese is barely melted, but put a pan au chocolate in there and in 10 secs and you could weld with it !!! Older microwaves just seem so much better - where 700 watts meant 700 watts, not eventually by candles  >:(

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on March 13, 2014, 08:15:06 PM
I know this is the angry thread, but I have good news - my second blood test was OK. Now have to wait until May, when I get another blood test at the hospital, and a week later see the Oncologist, who will give me their result (and the latest update on my cancer "all clear"). Phew!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on March 13, 2014, 08:19:24 PM
 :D

Most excellent news Kipper...over to the happy thread with you!

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on March 13, 2014, 08:25:05 PM
Quote from: Geoff on March 13, 2014, 12:05:39 PM
Engineer just been it was a faulty Openreach DSL box and no charge yippee, great service well done BT.

Excellent news Geoff :thumbsup:


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 13, 2014, 08:37:06 PM
Quote from: Kipper on March 13, 2014, 08:15:06 PM
I know this is the angry thread, but I have good news - my second blood test was OK. Now have to wait until May, when I get another blood test at the hospital, and a week later see the Oncologist, who will give me their result (and the latest update on my cancer "all clear"). Phew!

Seriously good news so far, Kipper, but surely you want this in the Happy Thread? We need more Happy posts as the thread is way outnumbered by the Angry Thread. :worried:
Let us know if you want it moved :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Cooper on March 13, 2014, 09:25:50 PM
Have just received some HAA wagons from 2 different local model shops ordered off the internet. Shame they were described as Freight brown and all turn out to be EWS. Not a very happy badger! Why can't shops put proper listings on their websites? I even phoned them to check and they both said 'yes, they're freight brown'. Think in future I'll stick to the big box shifters who haven't yet let me down...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 13, 2014, 09:30:40 PM
Quote from: Cooper on March 13, 2014, 09:25:50 PM
Not a very happy badger!

Don't mention badgers please! :no:
I wrote my first ever car off on one and years later caused over £600 to another of my cars on one :doh: :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Cooper on March 13, 2014, 09:49:32 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 13, 2014, 09:30:40 PM
Quote from: Cooper on March 13, 2014, 09:25:50 PM
Not a very happy badger!

Don't mention badgers please! :no:
I wrote my first ever car off on one and years later caused over £600 to another of my cars on one :doh: :'(

Sounds like you should have been helping out on that cull they tried Nobby! :-)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on March 13, 2014, 09:50:28 PM
Badgers (http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/badgers/)

:D


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 13, 2014, 10:35:09 PM
Who's a sick puppy then  :laugh3:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on March 13, 2014, 11:18:54 PM
Brilliant Sprintex. Used to have that on my work computer, but it got wiped the day before I left (ruddy I.T.). Will have to get it downloaded again.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 17, 2014, 06:10:25 AM
St Patrick's Day? Not at my watering hole....

Figtree bowing club, my preferred place of refreshment, went to a lot of trouble on Sunday putting up flags and Guinness promo material in readiness for today (buy a Guinness win tee shirts, etc).

Stuck me head in at lunchtime, thinking I'd have one as I'm quite partial to it, only to find half the bar (the part with the Guiness) being refurbished!

I know the directors of this club personally and to say they have their heads buried in the sand is understatement. Couldn't run a chook raffle.

The barmaid said she'd put some green food colouring in me Victoria Bitter to make up for it - I can't repeat my reply here.

Have a Guinness for me, folks!  :pint:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on March 17, 2014, 08:31:19 AM
Oh, the annual let's celebrate the Irish national saint day, even though none of our genes has been anywhere near the emerald isle. Bar extensions, temporary music licences, the works all granted by the local council licencing committee.

Try and do that for April 23rd* and you get ignored, applications rejected and told off for being too nationalistic...  :veryangry: :veryangry:

*Feast day of St George, the national saint of England, for the uninitiated...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ParkeNd on March 17, 2014, 10:01:04 AM
I can't understand the compulsion either for people to stick "Wales" stickers on their cars. No- one sticks England stickers on them.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on March 17, 2014, 08:16:41 PM
Quote from: ParkeNd on March 17, 2014, 10:01:04 AM
I can't understand the compulsion either for people to stick "Wales" stickers on their cars.

I think it's a 3rd world thing. The Welsh do it. The Scots do it. The Cornish do it.............. :D

I'll be off now then.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on March 17, 2014, 08:17:10 PM
I was told many years ago, by a Welsh mate, that putting a Wales sticker on the rear of your car is a sure way to avoid the Welsh Nats setting it alight, when parked outside your holiday cottage in the Brecon Beacons or Snowdonia. I think the locals had a code, where the sticker was stuck, to show the difference between a true Welshman's car, and a tourist's!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on March 17, 2014, 08:23:55 PM
Quote from: ParkeNd on March 17, 2014, 10:01:04 AM
No- one sticks England stickers on them.

That does not surprise me, there is very little to be proud of  >:D

(http://www.smileygenerator.us/olympics/links/1_86_62_2.0793455001345676815.gif) (http://www.smileygenerator.us)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on March 17, 2014, 08:31:57 PM
Some Jocks put Ecosse stickers on their cars. Don't know why .
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 17, 2014, 09:07:09 PM
Quote from: Agrippa on March 17, 2014, 08:31:57 PM
Some Jocks put Ecosse stickers on their cars. Don't know why .

I can only assume they have more affinity with the French than the English :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 17, 2014, 10:05:50 PM
None of it's as bad as the brain-dead Aussies that drive around here with little stick figures of "My Family" on the windows of their huge four-wheel drive vehicles, which are used for the sole purpose of dropping and picking their kids up from school and getting mum to her coffee appointment.  :veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on March 17, 2014, 10:25:53 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on March 17, 2014, 08:23:55 PM


That does not surprise me, there is very little to be proud of  >:D



Dunno, Hadrians wall did its job okay :D

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 17, 2014, 10:29:26 PM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on March 17, 2014, 11:07:27 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on March 17, 2014, 10:25:53 PM

Dunno, Hadrians wall did its job okay :D

Allan

Reminds me of a trip one spring walking Hadrian's wall , very pleasant . Called into a pub at Hexham,the publican asked what we'd been doing and one of my pals said we'd been walking on Hadrian's wall.

The publican then said (Geordie accent) " Weel ah hope yiv squeered it wi' Hadrian"

Great trip and great countryside.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 17, 2014, 11:11:56 PM
As a Geordie ex-pat, I salute your excellent Geordie accent, Sir!  ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on March 17, 2014, 11:18:11 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on March 17, 2014, 10:25:53 PM
Dunno, Hadrians wall did its job okay :D

Allan

That was the Romans who built that because they were terrified of the Scots  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ParkeNd on March 17, 2014, 11:37:19 PM
Quote from: Kipper on March 17, 2014, 08:17:10 PM
I was told many years ago, by a Welsh mate, that putting a Wales sticker on the rear of your car is a sure way to avoid the Welsh Nats setting it alight, when parked outside your holiday cottage in the Brecon Beacons or Snowdonia. I think the locals had a code, where the sticker was stuck, to show the difference between a true Welshman's car, and a tourist's!

When I worked in Merthyr for six years I learned by visiting the same petrol station about every four days to fill up my company car, that there are special Welsh cars. They have only a one pint fuel tank - so Taff can stop at the petrol station every day to buy 50p of petrol and £10 of fags. Whilst I put 60 litres in the tank five or six such cars would arrive and then leave.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ozzie Bill. on March 18, 2014, 05:31:03 AM
The English don't need stickers braying about how good we would like to be. We already KNOW we're better! >:D >:D
Hey, Bealman, have you seen the bumper sticker reply to those stick figure things? "I couldn't give a fig (or some word like that) about your flaming stick family."
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 18, 2014, 05:47:32 AM
Yes, I have... with them hanging or worse! Cracks me up!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on March 18, 2014, 08:56:03 AM
Quote from: Bealman on March 17, 2014, 11:11:56 PM
As a Geordie ex-pat
Whoa, whoa !!!

If you're a Sunderland lad, you ain't a Geordie  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Rob H on March 18, 2014, 08:57:49 AM
Quote from: Bealman on March 17, 2014, 11:11:56 PM
As a Geordie ex-pat, I salute your excellent Geordie accent, Sir!  ;D

A real contradiction in terms  -  if you're a, I can hardly say it, Sunderland fan then you're no Geordie and please stop masquerading as one !
Bl...y Mackems,

Rob, born and bred Newcastle and proud of it !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 18, 2014, 09:06:53 AM
Ooh ah.

Stood up there!

Apologies to all. Living here I just get used to saying I'm from the north east and therefore a Geordie

As you Tynesider's correctly point out, I am not.

Cheers!! :beers: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on March 18, 2014, 11:22:21 AM
Quote from: Bealman on March 18, 2014, 09:06:53 AM
As you Tynesider's correctly point out, I am not.
Getting worse - now I'm being called a Geordie !!!   :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Rob H on March 18, 2014, 11:27:12 AM

Getting worse - now I'm being called a Geordie !!!   :censored:


You should feel honoured !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on March 18, 2014, 11:45:42 AM
Quote from: ParkeNd on March 17, 2014, 10:01:04 AM
I can't understand the compulsion either for people to stick "Wales" stickers on their cars. No- one sticks England stickers on them.

They probably don't want people to find out  :angel:

I do actually see quite a few 'England' stickers on cars in this part of the world -  I guess because there are people here who do feel very much like English ex-pats in Wales

(it's funny - when folk move to Wales some folks go native, others get more English instead)

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NinOz on March 19, 2014, 11:46:49 PM
I really hate Mother of Millions at the moment.
Have about 1.5 acres infested with them, about half an acre of this is an unbroken carpet. 
Spent in excess of $700 so far for poison and equipment to deal with them, over the past month 40 hours of finding and spraying.  After 2 months thought I had finally finished spraying yesterday only to find two more patches of them. :laugh3: :'(

Then I will have to clear at least 4 acres of lantana. :(

CFJ
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on March 19, 2014, 11:59:36 PM
Quote from: NinOz on March 19, 2014, 11:46:49 PM
I really hate Mother of Millions at the moment.
Have about 1.5 acres infested with them, about half an acre of this is an unbroken carpet. 

For the un initiated:
[smg id=11075]

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NinOz on March 20, 2014, 12:03:46 AM
Quote from: Oldun on March 19, 2014, 11:59:36 PM
Quote from: NinOz on March 19, 2014, 11:46:49 PM
I really hate Mother of Millions at the moment.
Have about 1.5 acres infested with them, about half an acre of this is an unbroken carpet. 

For the un initiated:
[smg id=11075]

Roger

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :laugh3: :laugh3: :laugh3: :laugh3: :laugh3: :laugh3: :laugh3:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on March 20, 2014, 12:11:36 AM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :laugh3: :laugh3: :laugh3: :laugh3: :laugh3: :laugh3: :laugh3:

:( Didn't mean to give you nightmares  :-X
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on March 20, 2014, 11:28:33 AM
Just like women,the pretty ones can turn into a nightmare

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on March 20, 2014, 01:44:58 PM
My washing machine just died, first load of this weeks wash, water on the floor and a very expensive moise. Got a bloke coming out in an hour or so.

Problem is the house is going on the market today and I will probably be going into a  flat in a retirement block where there is a laundry room so don't really want to get a new WM (assuming it's not a quick/cheap fix)

So  I need to find a laundrette for the next few months while the estate agents and solicitors play their games. Crossing fingers in hopes!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on March 20, 2014, 02:18:09 PM
Hadn't come across Mother of Millions but found this interesting reading, http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/agriculture/pests-weeds/weeds/profiles/mother-of-millions (http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/agriculture/pests-weeds/weeds/profiles/mother-of-millions) seems a real nasty one and reading through all the measures required to dispose of them it really is a big problem.  Looks like you need to have a controlled burning but replanting such a large area wont come cheap!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on March 20, 2014, 03:16:47 PM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on March 20, 2014, 01:44:58 PM
Problem is the house is going on the market today and I will probably be going into a  flat in a retirement block where there is a laundry room so don't really want to get a new WM (assuming it's not a quick/cheap fix)

You can still rent washing machines, or you could buy a real cheap one - I guess it'll just about last 3-6 months


Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on March 20, 2014, 04:18:27 PM
A few years back, I bought some "Chinese Lantern" seeds and some "Joseph's Coat" plants. Both grew well, and looked good, but next year, I found them coming up all over the garden and in the lawn. They both send out long underground runners, and take over the garden. Took three years to get rid of. And don't get me started on next doors bamboo (now mine as well)!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on March 20, 2014, 06:23:50 PM
Found a S/H Imdesit with 6 month guarantee at the British Heart Foundation shop for £90, + delivery, that will arrive Saturday, somebody is coming tomorow to take the old one away, presume either for spares or refurb.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on March 20, 2014, 07:58:33 PM
Another mixed message here, I am afraid. Had to get a plumber out, as my toilet cistern was driving me mad - flushing OK, but squealing on fill up, and then over filling. Basic call out charge was £70, which covered the first hour, plus parts and extra if over the hour. He found the problem quickly, but did not have the part, and had to go to a plumber's merchant to get it. Watched time clocking up, and thought that was a good wheeze - spending a couple of hours getting the part (or doing another job down the road). Took him two hours in total to finish the job, but only charged for part on top of the £70, which was pretty good, I thought. He then said he had fixed a leak under the cistern as well - so fair play in the end, but £105 to fit a part that was £20 at B&Q.
Good part was he was interested(ish) in the layout I am putting together. "Aren't those trains small", said he, "are they clockwork?". Thought I had a convert to N gauge, for a nanosecond!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on March 20, 2014, 08:21:39 PM
Had a problem with the upstairs loo a year or two back; had a quote & then replaced it all myself for a quarter of the price !

Had a failure on part of the auto-shut off over this Winter (the overflow overflowed into the loo all the time); spoke with the supplier, they ID'd the part I needed & I replaced for under a tenner (including postage - the local supplier wanted more than that for the same packet & would take 5 days to get it in; the web supplier I went to had it with me the next day ...).  Reckon a plumber would have been £100+ for that one ...

And ... I had a problem with the back door with the high winds the other week.  Got a chippie in the other day for a quote - a tad under £1000 ...  No prizes for guessing what I'll be doing @ Easter ... and it's not making cups of tea for the chippie !!!

Mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on March 20, 2014, 08:28:44 PM
Amazing that I can mess with cars and N gauge, but mains electricity and water are two no go areas for me. And I know I am no longer allowed to play with mains electrics, by law, now, but years ago I gave myself a jolt that I would not want to repeat! ANd torrents of water running down the stairs put me off plumbing as well.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on March 20, 2014, 08:37:14 PM
When I was about 12 my parents gave me an old mains radio to mess about with .
I was poking about in its innards when I got a shock. Only lasted a fraction of a second but by God it shook me up. Parents' reaction was not too sympathetic,
"Serves you right for messing with things you don't understand ".
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 20, 2014, 09:01:50 PM
I was about the same age (12) when I pulled a plug from a socket without switching the power off. My fingers slipped off the plug onto the pins and I was thrown across the room :o
I was scared witless (or something that rhymes) at the time but actually felt quite good afterwards! :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on March 20, 2014, 09:18:02 PM
Quote from: Kipper on March 20, 2014, 08:28:44 PM
Amazing that I can mess with cars and N gauge, but mains electricity and water are two no go areas for me.

Have you tried jolts from a 24v truck battery or dodgy HT Leads fed by high performance coils - that wakes you up.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on March 20, 2014, 10:44:32 PM
Funny the one time I got a mains shock it didn't feel that bad.

At my last job I was unofficial office "handyman" as I can do most practical things. One day the one and only light bulb in the mens loo had blown so I went in to change it. Making sure the switch was OFF first :) I unscrewed the old bulb and screwed a new one in. Switched on and  . . . nothing! Switched OFF and took new bulb out again and had a look inside holder to see that the base contact was squashed and bent out of shape. So with switch still OFF, and a chair holding the door open so I'd have some light from the corridor to work with, I set about trying to straighten the contact out with my fingers. This is where it starts to go wrong :D Struggling to see what I was doing, and with my fingers still inside the holder, I absentmindedly thought I'd turn on the light to see better . . . oh dear!  :worried: About two seconds of weird buzzing down my arm was enough for me to switch it off again  ;D


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Wild on March 20, 2014, 11:53:35 PM
As a child my father looked after a Turkish Bath. There was so much steam and condensation that I often got a belt from the light switch when I went down there exploring after dark - nobody seemed too concerned to stop it ?!?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Michael Shillabeer on March 21, 2014, 08:20:30 AM
A few years ago a friend of mine was helping to remove old night-store heaters. They were on the 'white meter' tarrif, so I switched off the white fuse box circuit , leaving the brown fuse box on.

It was only after we'd finished and put the kettle on that we realised I'd switched off the wrong circuit and we were working on the live one... the double pole switches prevented us getting a shock and luckily our screwdrivers didn't slip!

Best regards
Michael
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: petercharlesfagg on March 21, 2014, 09:05:11 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 20, 2014, 09:01:50 PM
I was about the same age (12) when I pulled a plug from a socket without switching the power off. My fingers slipped off the plug onto the pins and I was thrown across the room :o
I was scared witless (or something that rhymes) at the time but actually felt quite good afterwards! :laugh:

Similar experience except that I used my penknife to lever the plug, "BANG" two large holes in the blade, blew all those wired fuses in the house, an irate mother and a throbbing Right ear.  No I've never done anything similar since!

Peter.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: petercharlesfagg on March 21, 2014, 09:06:33 AM
Quote from: Sprintex on March 20, 2014, 10:44:32 PM
Funny the one time I got a mains shock it didn't feel that bad.

At my last job I was unofficial office "handyman" as I can do most practical things. One day the one and only light bulb in the mens loo had blown so I went in to change it. Making sure the switch was OFF first :) I unscrewed the old bulb and screwed a new one in. Switched on and  . . . nothing! Switched OFF and took new bulb out again and had a look inside holder to see that the base contact was squashed and bent out of shape. So with switch still OFF, and a chair holding the door open so I'd have some light from the corridor to work with, I set about trying to straighten the contact out with my fingers. This is where it starts to go wrong :D Struggling to see what I was doing, and with my fingers still inside the holder, I absentmindedly thought I'd turn on the light to see better . . . oh dear!  :worried: About two seconds of weird buzzing down my arm was enough for me to switch it off again  ;D


Paul

Laurel and Hardy springs to mind!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 21, 2014, 09:18:16 AM
From an OHS point of view, I cannot encourage messing about with mains voltage unless you know what you are doing.... especially our younger members.

We all have great stories to tell about electric shocks (I copped HT off an old Army 19 set, and didn't I know it), but the message from this forum must be:

240 Volts can kill. Don't mess with it unless you know your stuff.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dock Shunter on March 21, 2014, 10:14:10 AM
One time when i was 14 or 15 i was making some toast.Instead of popping out of the toaster the bread had got stuck and started to burn. :o
Without thinking i stuck a fork into the toaster to leaver it out. :dunce:
The next thing i remember was lying on the floor on the other side of the kitchen. :confused1:
My Dad,who was an Electrician and TV Engineer just laughed at me and said "You won't do that again will you".....  :no:

:beers:....Ste.....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 21, 2014, 11:32:43 AM
Quote from: Bealman on March 21, 2014, 09:18:16 AM
240 Volts can kill. Don't mess with it unless you know your stuff.
Actually George, 48volts between your finger tip on each hand generates enough current across the heart to stop it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on March 21, 2014, 02:52:04 PM
I work with electrickery every day and I hate the stuff, nearly bloody killed myself when I was wiring into my house fuse board,  but hey I got up shook my head and carried on to finish the task, Electricity is a killer and you really need to let the experts do the work if your not qualified, as for sticking a fork into the toaster its not recommended, I try not to do anything live now if I can get away with it but sometimes one has to.

stay safe folks. stick to 12 volts.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: BudgieJane on March 22, 2014, 07:01:45 PM
Quote from: Bealman on March 21, 2014, 09:18:16 AM
240 Volts can kill. Don't mess with it unless you know your stuff.

We ought to say for our American and Japanese readers that 110v can kill, too. It's not the voltage that gets you, but the current.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on March 22, 2014, 10:43:32 PM
Shows how lucky i am at the moment i suppose if the worst i can moan about is this:

Bin men / recycling men leaving a note to say they didn't take our paper recycling bag because some of it was shredded. Now aside from the fact it all gets pulped, what in the heck am i supposed to do with my confidential waste?! If i shred it there is a reason. If i put it in the black bin it goes to landfill which surely must be the point of this recycling business?!

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on March 23, 2014, 07:15:50 AM
A 'don't shred' policy is irritating!

I now have an incinerator, which could be thought of as far from green, but what's the alternative when the council won't accept shredded paper?

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 23, 2014, 07:53:14 AM
We take our shredded paper to the local cat sanctuary where they use it for bedding. They are always grateful. We do the same with newspapers which they use in the litter trays. It's nice to see the Daily Mail being put to good use.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 23, 2014, 09:23:38 AM
 :thumbsup: :laughabovepost:

Just like our local rag
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on March 23, 2014, 09:50:20 AM
I am staggered at the amount of stuff we recycle, it seems everything we buy is packaged in something that can be recycled, I guess its the sign of the times when people find it easier to open a bag or carton than peel a few spuds or shell a few peas, convenience is all very well but the rubbish dumps are overflowing and the recyclers are getting choosy.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 23, 2014, 09:59:10 AM
A good thing is that if you peel spuds or shell peas, the debris left goes in the composter, not land fill.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on March 23, 2014, 10:04:03 AM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on March 22, 2014, 10:43:32 PM
Bin men / recycling men leaving a note to say they didn't take our paper recycling bag because some of it was shredded.

Our bin/recycle men will take shredded paper as long as its bagged up separately.
They say the main problem if its in with the normal recycling is when, the bags are
'opened' the shredded stuff goes everywhere (you know what its like at home if you
happen to drop some).
Try as we do, put it out with your other bags but, in separate bags.
We use tightly tied/knotted carrier bags.

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on March 23, 2014, 07:52:05 PM
Our council happily take shredded paper in the recycling bin (paper/card/cans), but ask that it is in the middle of the bin - so timing is everything!!! Also have a brown bin, for garden waste - lawn mowings, dead plants, etc, but not kitchen waste. Had an interesting conversation with council employee, over things like cabbage trimmings or leek leaves. If bought in shop,  cabbage/leek trimmings are kitchen waste, but if grown in garden, garden waste. Now, unless shop bought is marked with something that shows up with ultra violet light, how can they tell - and what is the difference anyway???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: gc4946 on March 23, 2014, 08:14:19 PM
It never ceases to amaze me how neighbouring local councils have such different rules about what residents can dispose of in their recycling bins at home, and how's that arranged and collected, also what materials have to be personally transported to a recycling centre.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on March 23, 2014, 10:32:56 PM
We only have three types where we Live.
Black bags for household rubbish, clear bags for recycling and brown bin for garden and food
waste. They gave us a 4ltr silver bin/bucket with a lid and some biodegradable bags. These
bags with the scrap food in are then placed in the brown garden bin (All goes to composting)

We get invaded on Wednesday mornings between 06-40 & 07-00hrs by an armada of three bin
wagons (one for each type of rubbish) closely followed up by the powered street sweeper.

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ParkeNd on March 23, 2014, 11:25:53 PM
Wales, my area in particular, have really piled on the recycling pressure. Food waste has to go in a caddy in a blue bucket with a lock over handle. Cardboard and paper have to go in reddish pink transparent sack. Tin cans and recyclable plastic like bottles have to go in purple transparent sack. Other refuse that is not recyclable goes in a tiny transparent white sack that is only collected once per fortnight. Green waste collection is no longer included in the council tax bill which for a Band F property increased 5.1% starting 1st April - we have to pay £10 per year per tiny reusable bag (up 25% this year) for a licence to put in a pocket on the bags - and our garden needs 4 bags = £40 per year just for grass cuttings.

This assortment of bags have to be put out on different days of the week - three days of the week need a trip out to put something out. We have to remember which weeks are for collection of non-recyclable waste - and which weeks are not.

We are waiting to be told when the tin cans and the plastic will have to be segregated into two different bags rather than into the red bag.

Oh - and every single plastic bag in our shops is charged at 10p. The 20p "bags for life" became "bags until we withdraw the scheme after 6 months"

Fortunately our refuse collectors are decent guys and don't scrutinise what is in the see through bags.

Simples.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on March 24, 2014, 10:32:08 AM
No trouble here with shredded paper but you could write to your MP or the local rag and point out the council is encouraging identify theft and failing to be anti-crime etc 8-)

Alternatively if you mix your shreddings with water and PVA it makes fine mush for casting into lightweight scenery!

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Michael Shillabeer on March 24, 2014, 11:47:48 AM
Swindon Borough Council in their wisdom now only collect rubbish and recycling once a fortnight now. Up until a few weeks ago recycling was weekly.

Garden waste is only collected if you pay an extra £40/year on top of council tax.

The council consulted with us apparently and we said we liked the idea...

I put some shot offcuts of steel studding into the metal recycling box, but it was carefully removed and left behind!

Best regards
Michael
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on March 26, 2014, 07:57:34 AM
Where I live the local bin men are so flippin' useless you could put a corpse in the wheelie bin and they wouldn't notice.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ParkeNd on March 26, 2014, 09:36:59 AM
Quote from: Agrippa on March 26, 2014, 07:57:34 AM
Where I live the local bin men are so flippin' useless you could put a corpse in the wheelie bin and they wouldn't notice.

Wheelie bin?  Wheelie bin!!  That sounds like 1990s chuck it all in together rubbish removal. Pure heaven.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on March 26, 2014, 09:42:29 AM
That's all we have, two wheelie bins: one for black sacks of non-recyclable rubbish, and one for cans, plastics, cardboard and paper. Collected on rotation every week :)

Glass has to be taken to the recycle bins at Tesco down the road ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ParkeNd on March 26, 2014, 09:45:05 AM
Quote from: Michael Shillabeer on March 24, 2014, 11:47:48 AM
Swindon Borough Council in their wisdom now only collect rubbish and recycling once a fortnight now. Up until a few weeks ago recycling was weekly.

Garden waste is only collected if you pay an extra £40/year on top of council tax.

The council consulted with us apparently and we said we liked the idea...

I put some shot offcuts of steel studding into the metal recycling box, but it was carefully removed and left behind!

Best regards
Michael

I like the reference to consultation. They probably did that before applying the £40 charge here. Probably asked a handful of Labour voters in the Rhonda if they should apply the charge in Monmouth and they said "Yeah screw 'em. They're all English anyway. Do 'em with the Council Tax increase as well"
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on March 26, 2014, 09:48:01 AM
Quote from: ParkeNd on March 26, 2014, 09:45:05 AM
Probably asked a handful of Labour voters in the Rhonda

Is that a sort of car ?

If you mean a place in Wales then you need to learn to spell  :P

Much of South Wales has fortnightly collection for waste, with recycling likewise, but some types each week and only food weekly. Seems to work fine.

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 26, 2014, 10:15:47 AM
Quote from: Agrippa on March 26, 2014, 07:57:34 AM
Where I live the local bin men are so flippin' useless you could put a corpse in the wheelie bin and they wouldn't notice.

Unfortunately, where I live, they found a teenager's body in one.

But, I guess that could happen anywhere in the world.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ParkeNd on March 26, 2014, 10:19:33 AM
Quote from: Bealman on March 26, 2014, 10:15:47 AM
Quote from: Agrippa on March 26, 2014, 07:57:34 AM
Where I live the local bin men are so flippin' useless you could put a corpse in the wheelie bin and they wouldn't notice.

Unfortunately, where I live, they found a teenager's body in one.

But, I guess that could happen anywhere in the world.

That sounds like planned recycling George. In the films it's usually a skip.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 26, 2014, 10:21:54 AM
Unfortunately, it WAS a wheelie bin. Not good.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ParkeNd on March 26, 2014, 10:23:49 AM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on March 26, 2014, 09:48:01 AM
Quote from: ParkeNd on March 26, 2014, 09:45:05 AM
Probably asked a handful of Labour voters in the Rhonda

Is that a sort of car ?

If you mean a place in Wales then you need to learn to spell  :P

Much of South Wales has fortnightly collection for waste, with recycling likewise, but some types each week and only food weekly. Seems to work fine.

Alan

It's the phone not having a Welsh spell checker!!  Merthyr Tydfil.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 26, 2014, 10:25:09 AM
But hey, let's keep angry, not morbid.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: woodbury22uk on March 26, 2014, 10:35:09 AM
We managed to get our landfill waste down to less than one cubic foot per fortnight so we downsized to a grannie bin (my wife can move it easily) which is also ideal for filling with compressed hedge clippings when I take these to the tip. The grannie bin fits easily in the back of the car.

Our recycling is all in one bin and then sorted at a massive plant next to the M5. Apparently this form of recycling is called co-mingling so that the purity of the individual recycling streams is lower because of cross-contamination. It does not allow food waste which goes into our compost or EcoCone anyway. Works well for us.

When fortnightly collections were introduced, some people complained that they got a lot of flies and vermin around their bins. Seems it was due to putting unwrapped food waste into their bins, which seems a bit clueless to me, unless you were going to cover it with a shovel full of hot ashes like we did when we had metal bins and more coal fires.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 26, 2014, 10:49:37 AM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:

But Mark Knofler's song "5.15 am" comes to mind.

In a way, I like the way that there is humour in the mining history of the UK - many folk paid, as Knopfler sings, "the price of coal."

I grew up with miners, and the landscape Knopfler describes.... they worked hard for their living.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on March 26, 2014, 11:30:35 AM
I live amongst a lot of ex-miners. Most were glad the mines shut, so they could get out of the pit and spend their redundancy money on a new career. The others were pleased, as they were able to pee their redundancy money up the wall!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Wild on March 26, 2014, 11:53:07 PM
Must move my PC away from my modelling bench. Incoming topic replies are too much distraction.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on March 26, 2014, 11:58:44 PM
Quote from: Bealman on March 26, 2014, 10:49:37 AM
:laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:

But Mark Knofler's song "5.15 am" comes to mind.

'Duw it's hard' is another.

Max Boyce - Duw it's Hard (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zzuyZ8sCeY#ws)

it and Rhondda grey are I think the two best things Max ever did, despite claiming to be a comedian firstly. But Max Boyce was a miner...



Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Luke Piewalker on March 27, 2014, 06:39:32 PM
So 'I'll put the pipes on my 58' I thought. Painted them up, start hosing away, get to the ones either side by the buffer... oh wait.. the buffer is sort of in the way... surely it must just pop of... it seems to be coming off... oh... wait... I've physically twisted it off and broken the plastic'  :veryangry:
Fortunately it glued back on ok... with a bit of encouragement and poking I managed to get the other side in...
Then to top it all off I put it on the track on the shelf above my work station and promptly knocked it off....So I glued the grille back on the side and hopefully it's fine now...  :dunce:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 27, 2014, 10:34:52 PM
Geez.... definitely 'one of those days!'
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scottmitchell74 on March 30, 2014, 10:04:55 PM
 :veryangry: Where did Parkend go? I liked his thread and posts...am I missing something?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Wild on March 30, 2014, 11:08:53 PM
Quote from: scottmitchell74 on March 30, 2014, 10:04:55 PM
:veryangry: Where did Parkend go? I liked his thread and posts...am I missing something?

You and me, both. To quote the vernacular.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on March 31, 2014, 04:46:28 AM
Quote from: scottmitchell74 on March 30, 2014, 10:04:55 PM
Where did Parkend go?

He left the forum for his own reasons.


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on March 31, 2014, 08:53:35 AM
Just to clarify, it would appear that he deleted most of his posts including replies to other threads, just in case anyone was wondering where they went and then asked us to lock his personal thread and delete his membership.

As a lot have said he did provide some really interesting modelling ideas and suggestions and it is a shame when someone feels they no longer want to share their skills.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scottmitchell74 on March 31, 2014, 12:39:09 PM
Huh, well, that's weird. I thought he was getting along well here. Okay, thanks for the explanation!  :NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Wild on March 31, 2014, 05:12:28 PM
There's nowt so queer as folk, as they say in Yorkshire.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on April 01, 2014, 02:21:40 PM
It seems all bad things that I've heard about Santander are true,I know my cousin had problems with them when her mum died.

I recently lost my wife in February and of course there have been various things to sort out,Barclays,LLoyds,Nottingham Building Society,and the CO-OP have all been sorted without any problems.....not Santander though.

First it took them over two weeks to even sort the building society account out and now I need them to put a few shares into my name,there aren't many and are from when my wife was in the Alliance and Leicester I think.

Anyway,Santander want £79.50 just to change the name to me and if I sell them another £50.00 on top,a total of about 30% of the value.

I'm absolutely disgusted that they want to make a profit from someones bereavement.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on April 01, 2014, 02:34:29 PM
Hi Allan, if you are the executor, do you need to have the shares transferred to you? Can't you just sell them?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on April 01, 2014, 02:37:03 PM
No I can't do anything until they're in my name unfortunately.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on April 01, 2014, 03:20:21 PM
Sincere condolences on your loss.

Had the same aggro when my dad passed last year.

I think the family got just over 50% of the value of his small shareholding. Had similar rip-off fee experience with other share dealings so not exclusive to that bank.

Annoying and upsetting all the same.

Dave G

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 01, 2014, 03:47:29 PM
So sorry to hear this news, Allan :(
It's tragic enough without faceless bankers (or similar) putting the boot in.
Is there an Ombudsman you can approach about this? I know it's just more hassle but you may get a result :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on April 01, 2014, 06:09:56 PM
Doubt there is much can be done.
I've sent a complaint,contacted Watchdog and my local MP.

Went into the local branch and had a bit of a vent in there,not shouting or anything just talking to a manager in there,he also thinks it's disgusting.
I told him it was nothing personal but he worked for a  s**t  organisation,at least it made some customers smile.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tim-pelican on April 01, 2014, 08:24:17 PM
Santander are firmly on my "will not deal with" list.  I opened an "on-line" savings account (might have been a cash ISA) over the web, filled out all details, account opened, no questions asked.  I transferred money into it quite merrily, electronically, all of which deposits they accepted no questions asked.  When I went to make a withdrawal, again on-line, it being explicitly marketed as an on-line account and all, they *finally* decided that I need to go into a branch with two forms of photo ID, get it witnessed by the manager, photocopied, sent off to head office and wait another couple of weeks for processing before I could have *my* money back.  Given that the reason I do my banking on-line (or by telephone, at a push), is that I pretty much have to take a day off work to visit them in the tiny window of opportunity they condescend to open, I was not best pleased.

Needless to say I didn't just make the withdrawal I originally planned, but closed the account and will *never* do business with them again.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on April 01, 2014, 09:43:15 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on April 01, 2014, 02:21:40 PM
Anyway,Santander want £79.50 just to change the name to me and if I sell them another £50.00 on top,a total of about 30% of the value.

Fish out the original terms and conditions of the account. If it is not explicitly on the original terms and conditions then tell them to get it fixed or you will go to the financial ombudsman. You do need to wait I believe its 8 weeks from the start of a mess before doing so.

http://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/consumer/complaints.htm (http://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/consumer/complaints.htm)

while you are at it, review whether the estate has any outstanding PPI or other claim opportunities to use as a further pointy stick.

Santander are btw all over the internet for this kind of behaviour.

Going via the ombudsman anyway isn't a bad idea. And if they try and brush you off annoy the ombudsman until the decide it is easier to deal with your case than try and shove you under the carpet.

Remember Santander has to pay people to answer letters and the phone, to process complaints and to deal with the ombudsman so it shouldn't be too hard to make it cheaper to give in ;-)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on April 01, 2014, 10:20:59 PM
Thanks Alan,

Unfortunately i have none of that information about the shares,my wife had them originally I believe as Alliance and Leicester shares.
Any information about them is now long gone.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ozzie Bill. on April 01, 2014, 10:28:37 PM
Allan, you can contact the original firm, Alliance and ask them for 2 things. 1) details regarding disposal under the original purchase and 2) changes to details, as notified to the shareholder, at the point of transfer to the other mob. HTH, Bill.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on April 04, 2014, 01:44:59 PM
Some good news I hope.
I have received a letter from Santander in reply to the complaints I made.

Basically I have to send them a "small estate form" and they will waive the £79.00 fee.

I had to Google to get the form,but it's now filled in and put in a pre-paid envelope they sent,so I'll post it today and see what happens next.

It seems that there will only be a charge for selling them which as I know is pretty standard,so I think I'll keep them and get the small amount of dividend that they get.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on April 04, 2014, 02:19:51 PM
Good news, hope they do what you mentioned. Small shareholdings can be bought/sold  at low cost
through a lot of brokers , check out these money expert sites etc.

A friend of mine had various accounts in whoever was taken over by Santander (Abbey Nat?) .
He had accounts which had been trouble free for years then suddenly when Santander took over
they made a hash of everything they touched.

Regarding funds held by deceased relatives when my dad died he had deposits with Dunfermline Building
Society (soon to pack in), and I was administering his estate. They wanted to know if I had confirmation,
a Scottish legal procedure to deal with estates, I told them it wasn't needed due to the size of the estate
so they changed his name to mine on the spot and I drew out the cash.
 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on April 04, 2014, 09:09:06 PM
Quick version of events....  I caught a student stealing lots of cakes today.  I told him that we were going to see his head of year and he went berserk. ::)  I then find out that he has 'issues', and an email was sent out a few weeks ago not to approach him.  So now I feel like I'm in trouble for stopping him getting away with it.  Weekend ruined, thanks. >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on April 04, 2014, 09:53:02 PM
Quote from: Tank on April 04, 2014, 09:09:06 PM
Quick version of events....  I caught a student stealing lots of cakes today.  I told him that we were going to see his head of year and he went berserk. ::)  I then find out that he has 'issues', and an email was sent out a few weeks ago not to approach him.  So now I feel like I'm in trouble for stopping him getting away with it.  Weekend ruined, thanks. >:(

Issues or not he stole cakes, and for anyone stating to leave him to his own devices is surely more dangerous for all around him.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on April 04, 2014, 10:50:34 PM
He ought to have an issue with getting a boot out of his backside.
Either that or free cakes for everyone.

Oh I forgot we have to let people with issues walk all over everyone else.It's time some of these bleeding hearts got a life.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on April 04, 2014, 11:46:30 PM
being a grumpy old git, I'm afraid that in my day, he'd have had an appointment with his headmaster and a cane, issues or not.

might not have been PC, but you soon learnt right from wrong, to obey the rules, and a healthy respect for authority.

but as we all know, no one is responsible for their own actions any more, and there is always some bleeding heart do gooder there to mollycoddle them, rather than them being taken to task.

I have tried the 'I've got issues' trick with SWMBO in the past, usually when she's intecepted a parcel from Liverpool, but it didn't do me any good at all, I still ended up in the doghouse  :hmmm:

perhaps I'm too old to be able to have issues any more  :-[

so, Tank, just remember ....

Illegitimae non carborundum  :smiley-laughing:

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Chetcombe on April 05, 2014, 01:12:57 AM
Quote from: class37025 on April 04, 2014, 11:46:30 PM

so, Tank, just remember ....

Illegitimae non carborundum  :smiley-laughing:

Had to confess that despite my O-level in Latin in the dim and distant past, I had to look this mock-Latin aphorism up...

:laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:

(non latin scholars can follow the attached link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegitimi_non_carborundum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegitimi_non_carborundum) )
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on April 05, 2014, 09:50:41 AM
Thanks gents.  Well, just Monday to get through, then they're all away for two weeks.  Still annoyed though.  Maybe next time I should do what the teachers do and just look the other way.....   ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on April 05, 2014, 10:47:43 AM
It's a difficult situation Chris, but if you look the other way, they think they can get away with anything. That can lead to more trouble for someone else. I must admit to belonging to the old school of spare the rod.... He needs a good slapping to get rid of his "issues"
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on April 06, 2014, 06:31:37 AM
Speaking as a retired high school teacher I'm staying out of this one....  8)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Luke Piewalker on April 06, 2014, 06:05:17 PM
Right... I like the boat race. It's sport. With boats. And racing.
But coverage started at half four, and the race started at 5 to 6....  :-X
Do we really need to spend an hour and a half hearing how rowers not only get up early to train hard, they also study hard as they are students...
And how drunk people watching the race are drunk and watching the race?
This obsession with back stories and asking everyone how they feel every two minutes  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on April 06, 2014, 07:00:53 PM
Most of the coverage of these big sporting events consists of huge amounts
of pap to fill in the time, just wait till the world cup when they interview the fans
in the streets and campsites etc.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on April 06, 2014, 07:02:50 PM
I check the kick-off times for the rugby these days because we get so much "infill" for some of the games. The half time ten minute pontification is my loo break and email checking time 8)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on April 06, 2014, 07:46:00 PM
You have to give "Baldy" plenty of air time, as she is soooo good and better than everyone else, and knows thousands of sports and can comment on all of them. And if she is stuck for something to say, she can always interview a drunk!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Luke Piewalker on April 06, 2014, 09:25:15 PM
I suppose at least there was no Gary Richardson...

And another thing, after me vowing not to by anymore Farish Covered Hoppers, so chap puts two great big wodges of them on ebay  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on April 06, 2014, 11:54:53 PM
 
Quote from: Luke Piewalker on April 06, 2014, 09:25:15 PM
And another thing, after me vowing not to by anymore Farish Covered Hoppers, so chap puts two great big wodges of them on ebay :-[

:goggleeyes: :goggleeyes: You will resist the urge, You will resist the urge, You will resi-- :sleep: :sleep:

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on April 07, 2014, 12:26:58 AM
Quote from: Kipper on April 06, 2014, 07:46:00 PM
You have to give "Baldy" plenty of air time, as she is soooo good and better than everyo else, and knows thousands of sports and can comment on all of them. And if she is stuck for something to say, she can always interview a drunk!

Is that the big dame  with the chin like Desperate Dan ? She make Adrian Chiles and Mark Lawrenson
look interesting and that's some feat! And  I'd sooner watch Eamonn Holmes than that pair.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on April 07, 2014, 01:40:31 AM
How come Oxford and Cambridge always reach the final anyway, is it fixed?  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 07, 2014, 01:53:39 AM
That'll be a 'Yes' then.

And why is there only one Monopolies Commission :confused2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on April 07, 2014, 04:14:33 AM
Looking at my "Beezer Book for Boys and Girls" 1961 annual, in between Baby Crockett, Pop Dick & Harry, The Banana Bunch, Colonel Blink, Ginger and Calamity Jane adventures, it informs me that in 1912, Cambridge were swamped at Harrod's, and Oxford sank at Chiswick Eyot.

In 1952 Oxford battled through a blinding snowstorm to win by nine feet, and the only dead heat on record was in 1877.

:D Smart so-and-so aren't I.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on April 07, 2014, 09:56:51 AM
Quote from: Bealman on April 07, 2014, 04:14:33 AM
  :D Smart so-and-so aren't I.

:uneasy: Not really, it just shows you can :read:

:goodbye:

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on April 07, 2014, 10:25:35 AM
Quote from: Bealman on April 07, 2014, 04:14:33 AM
it informs me that in 1912, Cambridge were swamped at Harrod's, and Oxford sank at Chiswick Eyot.

In 1952 Oxford battled through a blinding snowstorm to win by nine feet, and the only dead heat on record was in 1877.

:D Smart so-and-so aren't I.

I assume they were by Harrod's Depository, rather than rowing through Knightsbridge, otherwise they were in real trouble.  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on April 07, 2014, 10:35:03 AM
Malc, I'm just readin' me 1961 Beezer annual, mate.

When I was in Knightsbridge last August, well.... stay tuned to me travelogue....  :thumbsup:

But after reconsulting the Beezer annual, you are indeed correct. Harrod's Depository. Sorry!  :beers:

George
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on April 07, 2014, 11:58:26 AM
Why is it when you phone any organisation  they start reading internet links that you need to visit,how the hell do they think that you can remember all that and the forward slash and dot bits in it.

Sometimes the recorded message is so long I forget what I've been told anyway.

With all the unemployment it would help if people were actually employed to answer phones.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on April 07, 2014, 12:24:36 PM
When I phone one of these organisations (usually get this is being recorded for training guff )
I often just press a button eg2 and get through to a speaking human, they then say something like
this is  the wrong section , they transfer you and I get through to the humanoid I wanted.

Most of these places are a real pain in  the butt and you end up going round in circles especially
when the internet link doesn' t have a section to deal with your query/problem, or all our lines are busy and the muzak starts playing... :veryangry:






Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on April 07, 2014, 12:25:57 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on April 07, 2014, 11:58:26 AM
Why is it when you phone any organisation  they start reading internet links that you need to visit,how the hell do they think that you can remember all that and the forward slash and dot bits in it.

Sometimes the recorded message is so long I forget what I've been told anyway.

With all the unemployment it would help if people were actually employed to answer phones.

Allan

I hads the same result reporting that my broadband wasn't working!! How can I log a fault when I can't get on the  :censored: net!!!  :veryangry:

Even better here they put internet site links on Motorway signs, Italians are bad enough driving at 140 kmph with a mobile phone stuck in one hand without being encourage to grab a pen with their free hand... of course that one is usualy busy gesticulating to the person on the other end of the phone.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on April 07, 2014, 03:01:14 PM
Uk one is quite new and small but handy

http://gethuman.com/contact/companies/country-uk/ (http://gethuman.com/contact/companies/country-uk/)

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Luke Piewalker on April 07, 2014, 05:24:57 PM
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/18/bbc_three_call_centre_company_fined_ico_cold_calling/ (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/18/bbc_three_call_centre_company_fined_ico_cold_calling/)

And they've been punished by the BBC by.... being given another series  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on April 08, 2014, 08:24:56 PM
Phoned the doctor today, at 11 am, to make some future appointments for my mother and myself. Went straight to queue, and at position 3 - 10 minutes later I was still at position 3!!!!! This was the appointment line, not general enquiries, so why the wait? In the end, I drove down and made the appointments at the counter - petrol usage cheaper than the phone bill!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on April 08, 2014, 08:33:31 PM
I live next door to my doctor, but you have to call them to make an appointment, you can't drop in. ::)  A law to themselves!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on April 09, 2014, 12:25:52 AM
I made 2 appointments today. The first one was following an X-ray on my knee today. The doctor told me to make an appointment for 2 or 3 days after the X-ray. I was offered April 25th, 16 days after the X-ray!
The second was following an appointment yesterday which finished with me getting 4 prescriptions!* She wants to see me in 2 weeks, I was offered May the 2nd, 3.5 weeks later!
I can book appointments online but there are none available in the next 2 weeks and only a few in the 3rd week.

* 4 prescriptions now cost £32.20 whereas a prepayment card (or loyalty card as I prefer to call it) covering ALL prescriptions for 3 months still costs £29.10 so I've ordered one of those and will claim my money back  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on April 09, 2014, 01:18:00 AM
I live down the bottom of a hill from a little mining village called Mount Kembla (it still has a working mine and there are regular trainloads of coal and empties going up and down the single track not far from my house supplying the steelworks which we have in our town).

To get back to the current discussion about doctors, the village doctor was a local celebrity (especially when miners went on strike down the pit back in the eighties and refused to come out. He went down to check their condition every couple of days).

Anyway, his surgery was directly across the road from the village pub. He would be permanently seated at the same place at the bar every day, and very often you would turn up for your appointment, but then have to go across the road to the pub to get him!!

He passed away not so long ago and there was an article and many tributes in the local paper. He was quite a character!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on April 09, 2014, 01:25:27 AM
Did they prepare the prescriptions in the pub too?  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on April 09, 2014, 01:37:20 AM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:


Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on April 09, 2014, 09:00:37 PM
Quote from: Kipper on April 08, 2014, 08:24:56 PM
Phoned the doctor today, at 11 am, to make some future appointments for my mother and myself. Went straight to queue, and at position 3 - 10 minutes later I was still at position 3!!!!! This was the appointment line, not general enquiries, so why the wait? In the end, I drove down and made the appointments at the counter - petrol usage cheaper than the phone bill!

And in today's local paper is an article, reporting the poor telephone service provided by this surgery. They say they are getting a new phone system in, and it will be up and running by the end of the month. Amazing, it's only taken them 10 years to realise there is a problem, and it took the press to wake them up!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 10, 2014, 12:38:11 AM
Regardless of telephone system, would I be correct in that all receptionists at doctors have Rottweiler characteristics and Goldfish memories :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on April 10, 2014, 12:48:46 AM
I know the older ones used to work for the SS, but were thrown out for cruelty  :help:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on April 10, 2014, 04:17:57 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 10, 2014, 12:38:11 AM
Regardless of telephone system, would I be correct in that all receptionists at doctors have Rottweiler characteristics and Goldfish memories :hmmm:

Not all :no:

Our new surgery since we moved has a great receptionist - helpful, friendly and pleasant :thumbsup:


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on April 10, 2014, 09:05:39 AM
 :o :o :o

She'll never last ...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on April 10, 2014, 10:53:08 AM
I must lead a charmed life given the last few comments  :D

Our local doctors goes under the heading 'Medical Centre' and has 10 doctors
in total, all on one site. There are three receptionists + an onsite pharmacy :thumbsup:

Never yet had a problem with booking an appointment and on the one occasion
I had to ask for a home visit, the doctor arrived within 20 minutes  :admiration:

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: REGP on April 10, 2014, 11:43:56 AM
Roger

You lucky devil!

It took me 5 days to get an appointment and that was for a week later.

That's despite turning up at reception with discharge from both ears.

Ray
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on April 10, 2014, 12:07:28 PM
Didn't have any prob with the doc I talked about earlier.. his missus was the receptionist and she'd send you over the road to get him from his beer and the 2.15 running at Royal Randwick
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on April 10, 2014, 12:39:03 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on April 09, 2014, 01:25:27 AM
Did they prepare the prescriptions in the pub too?  :beers:

When I fell off a horse in Australia the doctor poked and prodded me, decided nothing was broken but that I'd dome various bits of muscle damage. He then said a muscle relaxant would help. His words were something close to "I can give you this but you can't drink, or beer is a good muscle relaxant ", and he sent me off to drink beer.

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on April 10, 2014, 02:15:42 PM
Quote from: Oldun on April 10, 2014, 10:53:08 AM
I must lead a charmed life given the last few comments  :D

Our local doctors goes under the heading 'Medical Centre' and has 10 doctors
in total, all on one site. There are three receptionists + an onsite pharmacy :thumbsup:

Never yet had a problem with booking an appointment and on the one occasion
I had to ask for a home visit, the doctor arrived within 20 minutes  :admiration:

Roger

Not a GP visit but 2 years ago my wife called for an ambulance for me after an alcohol induced trip down the stairs and the first responder was ringing the doorbell within 30 seconds, she was still on the phone! Turns out he had just finished a callout next door  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on April 10, 2014, 02:35:58 PM
Have you seen the latest EU idea sticking its nose where its not wanted  >:(

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2601201/UK-number-plates-axed-EU-Proposals-common-colours-ID-tags-vehicles-tracked-condemned-critics.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2601201/UK-number-plates-axed-EU-Proposals-common-colours-ID-tags-vehicles-tracked-condemned-critics.html)

They can stick that where the sun don't shine  ::)

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 10, 2014, 03:22:09 PM
Quote from: Oldun on April 10, 2014, 02:35:58 PM
Have you seen the latest EU idea sticking its nose where its not wanted  >:(

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2601201/UK-number-plates-axed-EU-Proposals-common-colours-ID-tags-vehicles-tracked-condemned-critics.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2601201/UK-number-plates-axed-EU-Proposals-common-colours-ID-tags-vehicles-tracked-condemned-critics.html)

They can stick that where the sun don't shine  ::)

Roger

Just another crackpot idea from some foreign faceless MEP trying to justify his position.
If our lot (regardless of party) roll over on this I'll be very surprised/mortified :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on April 10, 2014, 03:24:17 PM
The problem with the UK is that it takes everything very seriously and is the only member state to rigidly adhere to all those silly rules.  Here in Spain, they smile and carry on with the way they've done things for years, similar in France, only use the rules they like and totally ignore the others.   ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on April 10, 2014, 04:00:40 PM

I know, why don't we negotiate on this proposal, let's go in with "We'll agree to implement the unification on Number Plates, if you agree that all vehicles to be made right hand drive, therefore enabling the free movement of vehicles between the UK and Europe safely."

How's that for a starter  ;) ;) ;) ;)

Cheers

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on April 10, 2014, 04:08:05 PM
 :laughabovepost:    :laughabovepost:    :laughabovepost:

The pigs that just flew over here should be visible in the UK real soon.   ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: red_death on April 10, 2014, 04:46:55 PM
Now that really makes me angry...

The "EU" has proposed nothing of the sort - even according to the article from the Mail (which I wouldn't exactly trust with accurate reporting) what it says is that a Dutch MEP (ie not the same as the EU) has proposed common standards for nameplates.

They already exist in many countries anyway.

As for the idea that it is only the UK which applies EU law, that just patently isn't true...

Please note this is not about politics, but about accurate reporting!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on April 11, 2014, 08:57:01 PM
Some EU twerp on the telly this morning, saying how wonderful inland wind turbines are, and we naughty Brits should not be complaining about them. Just happened to represent the inland wind turbine farm lobby!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on April 14, 2014, 04:13:36 PM
Quote from: Kipper on April 11, 2014, 08:57:01 PM
Some EU twerp on the telly this morning, saying how wonderful inland wind turbines are

They are wonderful things, just as neat as the windmills of old.

Tomytec make one for N gauge withif you'd like to model it  including a rather bizarre version which is solar powered !!


Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Michael Hendle on April 14, 2014, 04:36:16 PM
Hi
It wasn't the EU this time, it was the United Nations comittee on climate change,the meeting was at Geneva,saying the world has got to invest in solar farms and wind farms,and less use of fossil fuels especially brown coal
Mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on April 15, 2014, 10:47:11 AM
I have split the information about printing onto OHP transparency film into a separate topic as it is an interesting subject in its own right, see http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=20973.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=20973.0)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: kevin141 on May 01, 2014, 04:39:19 PM
When wiring even following  color coded do you nearly always get a couple back to front
kevin141
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: FeelixTC on May 01, 2014, 04:41:40 PM
Quote from: kevin141 on May 01, 2014, 04:39:19 PM
When wiring even following  color coded do you nearly always get a couple back to front
kevin141

Guilty as charged! Worse than that; I 'corrected' the wrong one  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on May 02, 2014, 11:14:47 AM
 >:(
Postmans just rung the door bell and when SWMBO answered it he told her.
Your husbands   been buying yet more models again.
I thought all post was supposed to be private  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on May 02, 2014, 11:17:53 AM
The postie needs to keep in with your missus as she gives him the tip at Xmas
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on May 02, 2014, 11:22:56 AM
Quote from: Malc on May 02, 2014, 11:17:53 AM
The postie needs to keep in with your missus as she gives him the tip at Xmas
>:( Not this year she wont
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on May 02, 2014, 11:59:50 AM
You could give him a tip instead this year . . .


"Keep yer gob shut in future!" ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on May 06, 2014, 08:13:37 AM
 :veryangry:  :veryangry:  :veryangry:

Mrs C and I sat down to watch The Railway Man last night, and I almost spat my tea all over the place after a few minutes.

The scene in question is supposed to have taken place at Newton Aycliffe in 1980 with Eric Lomax going to catch a train, we see Eric coming down some stairs onto the platform and climb into a MAROON yes I did say a MAROON MK1, which then departs behind a GREEN Peak, right loco, wrong livery.

I'd just got over spitting feathers about that, when we see Eric back at the station, to meet his new squeeze Patti off her train, only to be confronted with BLOOD & CUSTARD liveried coaches hauled by the WCRC class 37 37676 Loch Rannoch.

Don't get me wrong, it's a great film and very harrowing, but to get simple things like this wrong really drives me nuts. I mean they got the Station staff uniforms right, but can't get the stock right, they even got the vehicles right for 1980.

:censored: :censored: :censored:

Regards

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on May 06, 2014, 09:30:45 AM
Is this the same Newton Aycliffe I'm thinking of in Durham? Didn't know it had a station.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on May 06, 2014, 10:23:17 AM

I believe so  ;) ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on May 06, 2014, 10:31:45 AM
Quote from: Bealman on May 06, 2014, 09:30:45 AM
Is this the same Newton Aycliffe I'm thinking of in Durham? Didn't know it had a station.
Opened in '78 - try Wiki
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on May 06, 2014, 10:58:45 AM
Thanks for that, yeah, one and the same. It's on the ECML line, then, as my recollections tell me it would be (went out with a girl in me college days at Durham back in 1972 who flatted at Newton Aycliffe).

More of a halt than a station, me thinks, but all these years on.... hmmm. Will be back there in a week on a flying visit.... Newton Aycliffe? Maybe.

Calnefoxile, I'm glad your beef was with the locos and stock... 1980? I don't think so!!!  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on May 06, 2014, 11:07:42 AM
Quote from: Calnefoxile on May 06, 2014, 08:13:37 AM


Don't get me wrong, it's a great film and very harrowing, but to get simple things like this wrong really drives me nuts. I mean they got the Station staff uniforms right, but can't get the stock right, they even got the vehicles right for 1980.

:censored: :censored: :censored:

Regards

Neal.
I agree. I watched it over the weekend and found it  both harrowing and very moving despite the obvious errors of the railway scenes.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on May 06, 2014, 11:51:55 AM
Talking of films, The Railway Children (with Bernard Cribbins) - train goes over the crossing into the station
pulling a single maroon coach. Next instant it leaves pulling 3-4 maroon and cream coaches. Where the hell
did they come from  :confused1:

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on May 06, 2014, 12:13:10 PM
Crazy road laws, here in Queensland it is breaking the law to pass a cyclist any closer than 1 metre, that is fine but I have noticed some drivers now swerve over to the wrong side of the road when passing a bike, whats even worse is it is now OK to overtake a cyclist by crossing double white lines, the white lines are there to stop people overtaking in dangerous places, people used to get fined if they crossed double white lines.

I understand that road safety is important, cyclists need to be respected as road users but I think not to the extent where other motorists lives are at risk.

This makes me angry.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on May 06, 2014, 01:09:34 PM
Talking of roads and cars, just got mine home with hardly any lights on. It ain't going anywhere in the morning. Battery flat as a tack. Unfortunately, me, wife and daughter have to go places. Great start to tomorrow.. But tomorrow is exactly that - tomorrow.  :dighole:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on May 07, 2014, 12:06:03 AM
Quote from: Oldun on May 06, 2014, 11:51:55 AM
Talking of films, The Railway Children (with Bernard Cribbins) - train goes over the crossing into the station
pulling a single maroon coach. Next instant it leaves pulling 3-4 maroon and cream coaches. Where the hell
did they come from  :confused1:

Roger

Yet another film where Jenny Agutter gets her kit off!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on May 07, 2014, 03:20:53 PM
Not quite as completely as in Walkabout!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on May 07, 2014, 03:52:56 PM
Agreed............must have been that hot weather in Australia. :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on May 08, 2014, 11:43:12 AM
Desperately trying to steer this thread away from Jenny Agutter who must be 190 in the shade now - I should know, I'm 189, my wife's car is still in the workshop as it had to be towed this morning. Yours truly had to stuff around with everything that entails, 'cos Mrs B was at work.

All this with only 5 sleeps before jumping on plane to UK!

Stress.. I LOVE IT.  :laugh3:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: iandmu on May 10, 2014, 07:40:55 PM
Lucky you don't live in leafy Surrey. Ever since the Olympics closed us down for two weeks its been open warfare between the lycra boys and the local community. You can't go for more than a few minutes without being confronted with some cyclists backside. Best is when there is a bunch of them, have the audacity to overtake and listen to the abuse you get - oh, it used to be so nice living around here.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 10, 2014, 08:27:35 PM
Quote from: iandmu on May 10, 2014, 07:40:55 PM
Best is when there is a bunch of them, have the audacity to overtake and listen to the abuse you get - oh, it used to be so nice living around here.

Be fair - overtaking them on your skateboard isn't exactly good form ;) :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on May 10, 2014, 10:55:28 PM
You should just goose them as you go past  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on May 11, 2014, 05:48:47 PM
Quote from: iandmu on May 10, 2014, 07:40:55 PM
Lucky you don't live in leafy Surrey. Ever since the Olympics closed us down for two weeks its been open warfare between the lycra boys and the local community. You can't go for more than a few minutes without being confronted with some cyclists backside. Best is when there is a bunch of them, have the audacity to overtake and listen to the abuse you get - oh, it used to be so nice living around here.

I blame global warming. It used to be too cold and permanently drizzly  for most people to cycle ;-)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on May 12, 2014, 03:36:37 PM
Went to hospital today, for blood tests prior to Oncology next Monday. Huge queue in blood test dept, and my ticket number was 50 more than the last one called! Screen stated 25 min wait, increasing to 38 min as it got nearer my number. Eventually want in 1hr and 15 min later! 5 bays and only 2 Phlebotomists working. Not their fault, obviously, but very poor management to have such queues.
And when I got home, letter from hospital cancelling my appointment next week, and moving to 9 June, so will need to go back the week before for more blood tests, as they need up to date results for my treatment.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 12, 2014, 04:29:46 PM
Having been a victim of delayed appointments and long hours sat in a waiting room, you have my sympathy, Kipper, and I hope all goes well when you do finally get to see Oncology :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on May 12, 2014, 04:35:07 PM
Quote from: Kipper on May 12, 2014, 03:36:37 PM
Went to hospital today, for blood tests prior to Oncology next Monday. Huge queue in blood test dept, and my ticket number was 50 more than the last one called! Screen stated 25 min wait, increasing to 38 min as it got nearer my number. Eventually want in 1hr and 15 min later! 5 bays and only 2 Phlebotomists working. Not their fault, obviously, but very poor management to have such queues.
And when I got home, letter from hospital cancelling my appointment next week, and moving to 9 June, so will need to go back the week before for more blood tests, as they need up to date results for my treatment.

Can you get your tests done at your doctors? It may be worth asking.
All my tests are done at our Medical Practice a week before my hospital appointments.
The blood tests are done between 07-45 & 09-00hrs daily. Usually in and out within 10 minutes.

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on May 12, 2014, 04:57:12 PM
Not sure it's the same everywhere with the NHS but I had a blood test at the hospital and when I went to my GP she could not see the results so I had to have more done at the doctors.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on May 12, 2014, 04:58:32 PM
Would go to the GP if I could, but these are specialist bloods, that the GP Phlebo is not qualified to do. The bloods also go direct to the lab this morning (or today, this afternoon), not hanging around for a van to collect and take to the local (different) hospital, and the results to be lost under a mound of paper at the GP (been there, done that).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on May 12, 2014, 09:39:01 PM
I don't post on this thread very often as it takes a lot to get me angry, but now I am really angry.  Managed to have the winning bid on Saturday on an eBay item that I had been after for quite a while, this evening I receive the following communication from the seller, stinks to me.

QUOTE

Dear  :censored:,

Hi,
unfortunately I have posted your item to another one of my customers by mistake, he has now gone on holiday and will not be back until the middle of June. The question is do you want to wait that long or would you prefer that I give you a full refund, when I get it back from him I will let you know and give you 1st option to buy it if you don't buy another in the meantime. I am really sorry about this.
Kind regards Jen
:censored:   Reply in your email program or through My Messages

END QUOTE
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on May 12, 2014, 09:55:57 PM
Sounds a bit fishy to me. Have they sold it twice and are waiting for new supplies?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on May 13, 2014, 07:43:49 AM
Sounds believable to me having managed to do exactly that once - thankfully not to someone who went away !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Michael Shillabeer on May 13, 2014, 07:56:49 AM
I've done it too  :-[

I sent two locos to the wrong people.

Fortunately the recipients weren't away (that's one heck of a holiday!!) so I sent each of them postage money and they swaped locos.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on May 13, 2014, 08:38:12 AM
Michael, that's what made me a little more suspicious, the long holiday, perhaps hoping I would forget about it by then but I have replied and requested the option to buy when they are returned.   ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on May 13, 2014, 01:16:07 PM
I've done it too but it involved 3 buyers! I refunded their postage and paid them for the postage to send on to the correct buyer. Thankfully all 3 were very understanding and posted the items to the correct buyers.

I hope you get yours sorted out whiteswan.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on May 14, 2014, 01:18:15 AM
The last thing I am worried about is the Bachmann price increase, our wonderful Aussie Blubberment handed down the Budget for 2014-15 last night.

Pensioners like SWMBO and my self will loose $1200au or 667 quid out of our pension per year, petrol is going up, we have to pay $7 for our first 10 visits to a doctor, prescriptions are going up plus a whole lot of other things to make life difficult, I know that some countries are worse of than we are but the cost of living is already a disgrace and making it worse is going to hurt.

Pleased to hear the rich folks had it tough as well, they will have to pay $1400au per annum if they are earning over $180,000 per year, thankfully this will only happen for four years then they will have made their contribution to Australia then they don't have to worry anymore, what a joke.

Thankfully I have bought nearly all the N Gauge stuff I need for my new layout because I don't think I will be buying much in the future.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Chatty on May 14, 2014, 04:47:15 AM
Quote from: longbridge on May 14, 2014, 01:18:15 AM
The last thing I am worried about is the Bachmann price increase, our wonderful Aussie Blubberment handed down the Budget for 2014-15 last night.

Pensioners like SWMBO and my self will loose $1200au or 667 quid out of our pension per year, petrol is going up, we have to pay $7 for our first 10 visits to a doctor, prescriptions are going up plus a whole lot of other things to make life difficult, I know that some countries are worse of than we are but the cost of living is already a disgrace and making it worse is going to hurt.

Pleased to hear the rich folks had it tough as well, they will have to pay $1400au per annum if they are earning over $180,000 per year, thankfully this will only happen for four years then they will have made their contribution to Australia then they don't have to worry anymore, what a joke.

Thankfully I have bought nearly all the N Gauge stuff I need for my new layout because I don't think I will be buying much in the future.

But Dave, you forgot to add that the pollies are doing it tough as well.  It was really naughty of you not to mention that.

Their pay is frozen for a year.  Now be fair backbencher's are going to struggle on their salary of around $250,000 pa.  Of course their spouses, er sorry electorate manager, will be able help them out on their salary of around $80,000.

However, look on the bright side, last time their salaries were frozen under the Howard regime for 12 months, when they were unfrozen they were given extra to make for the time they were frozen.  Sort of brings a tear to your eye doesn't it.

Not that I am cynical or anything like that, you know.

Kind regards

Geoff
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on May 14, 2014, 08:25:16 AM
 :smiley-laughing: Sorry about that Geoff. you are right the poor old pollies are doing it tough as well, poor devils.

Personally I cant figure out how they manage to sleep at night when they hit the most vulnerable people in the country, they have no heart.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on May 14, 2014, 08:58:36 AM
That's the trouble with "professional" politicians. They have never had a proper job and don't really understand those of us that had to work for a living on a much smaller income than MPs.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sipat on May 14, 2014, 09:21:04 AM
Miley Cyrus... That is all...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on May 14, 2014, 09:39:11 AM
Quote from: Steve Purves on May 14, 2014, 09:21:04 AM
Miley Cyrus... That is all...

:laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:

she is a little inspiration isn't she.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on May 14, 2014, 09:42:34 AM
Quote from: Steve Purves on May 14, 2014, 09:21:04 AM
Miley Cyrus... That is all...

???


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on May 14, 2014, 09:49:33 AM
Quote from: Sprintex on May 14, 2014, 09:42:34 AM
Quote from: Steve Purves on May 14, 2014, 09:21:04 AM
Miley Cyrus... That is all...

???

Paul
I guess she turned him down again  :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tdm on May 14, 2014, 02:20:13 PM
More frustrated and annoyed than angry.

Most of my model rail purchases I make through Hattons and have no problems, however they don't always have in stock what I want so I look to other suppliers.

When I checked Osborns for what I wanted they do have everything in stock that I am currently looking for so I put what I wanted into my basket with them. However when I come to complete the order they don't list Tenerife nor the Canary Islands in their list of Countries needed to calculate the zero VAT rate, and I remember that I had a similar problem the last time I ordered from them back in February.
Had to resolve the problem then over the phone and they said they would update their Website to include the Canaries in future, but they haven't. Sent them an email over the latest problem more than a day ago, but still not had a reply (by either email or phone).

Since last September I have spent a considerable amount of money on my first N gauge layout, but it seems some suppliers make it difficult to place an order from a foreign Country whilst with others it is easy.

If Osborns don't want my business I shall go elsewhere for all future purchases.
I am probably the only one on here who lives in the Canaries, so I doubt if anyone else has such a problem. Spain has totally different Tax & VAT rates so it is no good me selecting Spain as my Country of residence.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on May 14, 2014, 02:28:31 PM
I hope you can get it sorted out. :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 14, 2014, 04:26:48 PM
Sorry to hear that, Terry :(
I really don't know how to help :hmmm:

P.S. Disk collected from Lynn this morning - I'll let you know how I get on via PM
:thankyousign:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: kevin141 on May 15, 2014, 11:55:03 AM
Just got back from vets without my dog had to have him put to sleep he had the big C heart broken
kevin141
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 15, 2014, 12:12:26 PM
Quote from: kevin141 on May 15, 2014, 11:55:03 AM
Just got back from vets without my dog had to have him put to sleep he had the big C heart broken

I share your tears, been there far too many times :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on May 15, 2014, 12:12:50 PM
Quote from: kevin141 on May 15, 2014, 11:55:03 AM
Just got back from vets without my dog had to have him put to sleep he had the big C heart broken
kevin141

Sorry to hear that Kevin it is so sad when you have to let go of a good old friend.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on May 15, 2014, 12:28:06 PM
Lost 2 this time last year still miss them. The large one eyed elderly rescue dog that we adopted afterwards helps a bit.
Dogs are family.

All the best to you kevin.

Jerry
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on May 15, 2014, 01:15:26 PM
Quote from: kevin141 on May 15, 2014, 11:55:03 AM
Just got back from vets without my dog had to have him put to sleep he had the big C heart broken
kevin141

Sorry to hear that. Had one of my two Schipperke's (brothers) die yesterday. He came in from the
garden as usual, curled up under the coffee table for his midday nap and never woke up  :'(

Weird thing is the other one, he's just carrying on as usual and it doesn't seem to bother him that
his brother is no longer around  :confused2:

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on May 15, 2014, 01:15:40 PM
Sad news for all dog lovers.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on May 15, 2014, 01:41:25 PM
It is a horrible journey when it comes  :sorrysign:

If you can get yourself another as soon as possible, it does help  ;)

John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: silly moo on May 15, 2014, 02:23:57 PM
Sorry to hear about your dog, it's so sad when we lose our animal companions. We don't have any animals at the moment and I miss having an animal round the house.

Changing the subject, I am being driven mad by the UK Passport Office. I'm about to renew my passport and am spending a fortune phoning their helpline and getting very frustrated and worried by the lack of response to my queries. They always promise a reply within 72 hours, I should be so lucky!

The ladies I speak to are very polite but don't have any expert knowledge and can't make any decisions. Oh to be able to speak to someone who could actually help!

I have decided to send them the documents I think they need and hope for the best otherwise I won't get a passport at all.

Everything has become centralised and computerised and it's now taking three months for passports to be processed, so much for progress  :(

Rant over.

Regards

Veronica
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on May 15, 2014, 03:25:04 PM
Quote from: silly moo on May 15, 2014, 02:23:57 PM

I have decided to send them the documents I think they need and hope for the best otherwise I won't get a passport at all.


Make sure you send them 'registered or recorded delivery' - or your equivalent postal service.

MAKE SURE THEY ARE SIGNED FOR ON DELIVERY  :thumbsup:

rOGER
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: kevin141 on May 15, 2014, 04:35:23 PM
Thanks for the support
kevin141
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on May 15, 2014, 04:47:25 PM
Hi Kevin. Sorry to read your news. Always tough when a pet leaves you. When one of my litter-mate cats died, the other one sat in the garden a yowled his head off.

Veronica, the UK post office offer a service for passport applications/renewals. They check the forms and seem to get a faster turnround than if applying direct.

Of course I don't know what might be the problem but perhaps they can help you:

https://www.gov.uk/how-the-post-office-check-and-send-service-works (https://www.gov.uk/how-the-post-office-check-and-send-service-works)

Good luck!

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: silly moo on May 15, 2014, 05:14:26 PM
Thank you for the kind suggestions. My passport application will be sent via DHL, in fact all applications from this part of the world are sent that way due to our abysmal postal service.

My passport problem is a direct result of our postal system, all our mail gets posted to a PO Box or emailed as we have no postal delivery in our area. One of the requirements for the passport renewal is proof of residential address, they need a letter or bill from a local government department that has my name and our residential address on it. I don't have one. I effectively live in a PO Box :(

Try explaining that to someone who has an excellent postal service like Royal Mail. I know lots of you complain about RM but it's fantastic compared to our bunch.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: red_death on May 15, 2014, 05:45:11 PM
Veronica

Is there not a British Consulate in SA which can help/advise?  I know my mum had to deal with the consultate in Australia (though she lives in New Zealand!) to get similar advice when her passport ran out a couple of years back.

Cheers, Mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on May 15, 2014, 06:10:41 PM
Re Manston Airport. Just seen the latest news that it is closing permanently as from tonight.
This despite an offer of the 'Full' asking price.

Now what idiot offers to sell something for X £, is offered the same X £ and then refuses to
sell.

Not sure who :censored: off the owner but, she is definitely 'throwing her toys out of her pram'  :veryangry:

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on May 15, 2014, 06:15:41 PM
Quote from: Oldun on May 15, 2014, 06:10:41 PM
Re Manston Airport. Just seen the latest news that it is closing permanently as from tonight.
This despite an offer of the 'Full' asking price.

Now what idiot offers to sell something for X £, is offered the same X £ and then refuses to
sell.

Not sure who :censored: off the owner but, she is definitely 'throwing her toys out of her pram'  :veryangry:

Roger



Where is it and what's it all about ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: silly moo on May 15, 2014, 06:20:41 PM
We have two consular offices here who are very unhelpful, they just refer everyone to the UK office. I expect they are tired of being bombarded with questions from stressed out ex pats.

Worse case scenario will mean traveling on an emergency passport while the proper one is being processed.

The frustration comes from not being able to communicate with anyone who can be of real assistance. It seems to be standard practice these days to have a helpline/call centre staffed with people who can help with basic problems but who have to refer more complex ones further up the chain to someone who doesn't speak to mere mortals.


I think that some model railway therapy is called for  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on May 15, 2014, 06:46:38 PM
Where is it and what's it all about ?

Here you go:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Manston+Airport/@51.3523066,1.356334,8655m/data= (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Manston+Airport/@51.3523066,1.356334,8655m/data=)!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x47d952b65f8ad1eb:0x25806d69d8b574b1

The 'lady' owner put it up for sale, had some low offers and got a bit snooty about it.

Despite todays offer of the 'full asking price' she now refuses to sell it.

She is at the moment under the impression that she will be able to build houses on the
site. The local council/councillors say 'not a cat in hells chance'  :thumbsup:

Roger

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on May 15, 2014, 07:29:50 PM
Near Sandwich, there last year !  Is the airport working or just a desolate
strip of concrete, if so what's all the rumpus?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: B757-236GT on May 15, 2014, 08:11:27 PM
Not angry but incredibly miffed. As some of you know i fly RC aircraft and as the weather today was so perfect it would be rude not to fly. Anyway a sucessful time was had this morning so i decided to go up again this afternoon. Got up there, set it up, took off and was flying around quite happily when it suddenly went to full power and went nose down into the ground. As it was a P47 Thunderbolt foamie it didnt stand much chance. The fuselage broke into three parts, snapped a gear strut and bent the prop back to about 80 degrees of where it should be. Why did it do it? Who knows, i can only assume some interferance although 2.4ghz is normally immune to it. Needless to say its now in the bin, £150 down the drain. I suppose thats why they have the saying "dont fly what you cant afford to crash"

[smg id=12438]
P47 (before i wrecked it) with the Apprentice which is a trainer!

Trouble is now do i get another P47 or do i go for the Spit or even a Mozzy asthey are all similar prices.

Richard
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on May 15, 2014, 08:28:28 PM
Quote from: Agrippa on May 15, 2014, 07:29:50 PM
Near Sandwich, there last year !  Is the airport working or just a desolate
strip of concrete, if so what's all the rumpus?

Its a fully working airport with about 1500 people in total employed by the airport
and other flying related business's on site + outside interests. So, not only is it
closing but a lot of other business's are either going to have to re locate if they can,
or close down as well.

Local news web site:

http://www.kentnews.co.uk/news/manston_airport_shuts_as_new_offer_is_rejected_1_3601110 (http://www.kentnews.co.uk/news/manston_airport_shuts_as_new_offer_is_rejected_1_3601110)

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on May 15, 2014, 11:18:42 PM

Manston Airport!!! Blimey it was still RAF Manston the last time I was there, mind you that was 1979 and I was a member of 1F City of Leicester Squadron ATC.

Bl00dy hell thats 35 years ago  :goggleeyes:  :goggleeyes:

Regards

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on May 16, 2014, 12:37:00 AM
Thanks for info re Manston. let's hope it keeps going. By the way , what
size planes can it take ? Twin Cessnas etc or turboprop Bombardiers etc.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Wild on May 16, 2014, 12:55:26 AM
Put my latest scalescenes building on the floor for 20 seconds. Dog jumped in  the moment my back was turned. I've now got scale dinosaur teeth marks in my engine shed!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on May 16, 2014, 04:59:43 AM
No problems Bob just kick his basket or kennel to pieces, he may get the message  :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on May 16, 2014, 07:03:13 AM
Quote from: Agrippa on May 16, 2014, 12:37:00 AM
Thanks for info re Manston. let's hope it keeps going. By the way , what
size planes can it take ? Twin Cessnas etc or turboprop Bombardiers etc.

I could take some pretty big kit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manston_Airport (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manston_Airport)

Shame it had to/was made to close.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Michael Shillabeer on May 16, 2014, 07:48:37 AM
Quote from: daveg on May 16, 2014, 07:03:13 AM
I could take some pretty big kit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manston_Airport (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manston_Airport)
British Airways used it for Airbus A380 and Boeing Dreamliner 787 test flights and training.

It was also a designated emergency landing sight for the space shuttle (along with RAF Fairford)

Best regards
Michael
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on May 16, 2014, 08:15:52 AM
Quote from: Agrippa on May 16, 2014, 12:37:00 AM
Thanks for info re Manston. let's hope it keeps going. By the way , what
size planes can it take ? Twin Cessnas etc or turboprop Bombardiers etc.

You could land those type of aircraft across the runway, it was that big  :D

It was originally built to allow damaged bombers to land in relative safety on their way back from bombing raids during the war, as it was the first airfield the crews come across on their way back.

IIRC the runway is over 2 miles long which is why it was selected , as Micheal Shillabeer says, as an emergency landing site for the space shuttle.

Regards

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on May 16, 2014, 09:07:47 AM
Took a look on Google Earth, there's an Airbus type plane on the runway, also what appears
to be a 4 engined airliner without engines parked in a side area.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: javlinfaw7 on May 16, 2014, 09:03:59 PM
There is also a large no of burnt out or damaged military aircraft including phantom jaguar nimrod buccaneer and harrier ,2 747 breaking with a smaller 4 engined airliner and what looks like a intact 707
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 16, 2014, 09:14:26 PM
If I remember correctly wasn't Manston the RAF Fire Service training centre at one time, would account for the a/c on the burning area
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Wild on May 16, 2014, 10:48:14 PM
Quote from: longbridge on May 16, 2014, 04:59:43 AM
No problems Bob just kick his basket or kennel to pieces, he may get the message  :no:

Actually, it's a "she" with big appealing eyes - but I can easily show it who is the boss.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tdm on May 16, 2014, 11:33:11 PM
Quote from: Tdm on May 14, 2014, 02:20:13 PM
More frustrated and annoyed than angry.

Most of my model rail purchases I make through Hattons and have no problems, however they don't always have in stock what I want so I look to other suppliers.

When I checked Osborns for what I wanted they do have everything in stock that I am currently looking for so I put what I wanted into my basket with them. However when I come to complete the order they don't list Tenerife nor the Canary Islands in their list of Countries needed to calculate the zero VAT rate, and I remember that I had a similar problem the last time I ordered from them back in February.
Had to resolve the problem then over the phone and they said they would update their Website to include the Canaries in future, but they haven't. Sent them an email over the latest problem more than a day ago, but still not had a reply (by either email or phone).

Since last September I have spent a considerable amount of money on my first N gauge layout, but it seems some suppliers make it difficult to place an order from a foreign Country whilst with others it is easy.

If Osborns don't want my business I shall go elsewhere for all future purchases.
I am probably the only one on here who lives in the Canaries, so I doubt if anyone else has such a problem. Spain has totally different Tax & VAT rates so it is no good me selecting Spain as my Country of residence.

Just like to say that Osborns sorted out the problem after a couple of days, and the Canary Isles now appears on their list of Countries to tick. Was then able to complete my order and just waiting to see how long it will take to arrive.
Nice to have at least one alternative major supplier I can use for deliveries to Tenerife.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 17, 2014, 12:18:44 AM
Good to know they listened to you and sorted the issue, Terry :thumbsup:
Guess it wouldn't hurt to send an order now and then so they think it was worth while :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on May 17, 2014, 10:50:12 AM
Great news!  Good to hear that they listen to their customers.  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 17, 2014, 12:45:04 PM
What a waste of telly time for the FA Cup Final today >:(
Granted I'm no great footie fan and really don't care who wins but, as kick off is 17.00, do we really need the coverage to start at 15.00 so bumbling Adrian Chiles gets his 2 hours worth in before the game.
It's bad enough the schedules are packed with repeats ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on May 17, 2014, 01:36:23 PM
NN please don't mention Adrian Chiles without giving a warning in advance.

When I see that big puddin face I just want to boot the telly. How genuine footballers
can sit beside that waffling buffoon is a mystery. Possibly a pundit's fee of ££££££ helps.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tdm on May 17, 2014, 01:46:39 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on May 17, 2014, 12:45:04 PM
What a waste of telly time for the FA Cup Final today >:(
Granted I'm no great footie fan and really don't care who wins but, as kick off is 17.00, do we really need the coverage to start at 15.00 so bumbling Adrian Chiles gets his 2 hours worth in before the game.
It's bad enough the schedules are packed with repeats ::)

Glad you pointed the start time out. After just finishing playing snooker this morning I am off upstairs to play with trains as I didn't win a game today and need something to make me happy again.
Was going to come down at 3pm to watch the Final (I like football), but if kick-off is not till 5pm I can do more work on my layout than I thought I had time for.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on May 17, 2014, 11:53:39 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on May 17, 2014, 12:45:04 PM
It's bad enough the schedules are packed with repeats ::)

I'm quite glad about that bit at the moment - Dr Who on the Horror Channel and next week ends with Planet of the Spiders

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Greybeema on May 18, 2014, 09:21:41 AM
Missed the FA Cup final - I was at the RaboPro12 Semi final.  Leinster vs Ulster.  Tough game with huge physicality. 

Brian O'Driscoll arguing to be allowed to stay on after be knocked cold.  Unlike those mamby pamby soccer players who fall like they have been shot and scream in agony when another player is within 5 yards of them...

BTW The mighty Leinster won...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on May 18, 2014, 01:29:21 PM
Quote from: Greybeema on May 18, 2014, 09:21:41 AM
cold.  Unlike those mamby pamby soccer players who fall like they have been shot and scream in agony when another player is within 5 yards of them...

BTW The mighty Leinster won...

Football: 22 men on a field pretending it hurts
Rugby: 30 men on a field pretending it doesnt
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davieb on May 18, 2014, 03:39:04 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on May 18, 2014, 01:29:21 PM
Quote from: Greybeema on May 18, 2014, 09:21:41 AM
cold.  Unlike those mamby pamby soccer players who fall like they have been shot and scream in agony when another player is within 5 yards of them...

BTW The mighty Leinster won...

Football: 22 men on a field pretending it hurts
Rugby: 30 men on a field pretending it doesnt


Should that not read 
Rugby: 26 men on a field pretending it doesn't  ;)  :smiley-laughing:

dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on May 18, 2014, 03:49:05 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on May 18, 2014, 01:29:21 PM
Football: 22 men on a field pretending it hurts

. . . and that one should read "Football: 22 overpaid jessies chasing a bag of air round a field" :D


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on May 18, 2014, 03:55:58 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on May 18, 2014, 03:49:05 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on May 18, 2014, 01:29:21 PM
Football: 22 men on a field pretending it hurts

. . . and that one should read "Football: 22 overpaid jessies chasing a bag of air round a field" :D


Paul

And that one should read "22 overpaid jessies chasing a bag of air round a field and trying to kick it between two sticks" :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on May 21, 2014, 06:17:58 PM
Can't believe it one year after arriving at our house, and the lovely rescue dog SUGHERO (12 years old and blind in one eye) started vomiting this morning at 2:00 am and died in my arms at about 6:00 just as our neighbour, who is a vet arrived.

(http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd518/JerryHowlett/MySofaMyrules_zps01efa6ba.jpg) (http://s1223.photobucket.com/user/JerryHowlett/media/MySofaMyrules_zps01efa6ba.jpg.html)
With Mrs "H" up for her breast cancer surgery on Tuesday , I guess its not the best month!!!

Oh thats Sughero on the sofa NOT Mrs "H".
Jerry
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on May 21, 2014, 06:39:56 PM
Commiserations, I know how you feel having lost one of my two dogs last week.

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: kevin141 on May 21, 2014, 06:50:15 PM
Sorry to hear this lost my springer two weeks ago to the big C
kevin141
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on May 21, 2014, 06:54:18 PM
Sad news, I'm sure he enjoyed his time with you and your wife.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 21, 2014, 08:24:19 PM
So sorry to hear this on top of your other news, Jerry :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: keerout on May 21, 2014, 09:03:33 PM
Oooooh NOooo...  :o  :worried: don't give up though...
Gerard
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 21, 2014, 09:36:30 PM
Quote from: Only Me on May 21, 2014, 08:53:17 PM
Just dropped a whole 1.5kg coffee jar full of PVA mix all over my right hand board, thats the ballasting i'd spent two hours carefully laying completely bu**ered, fine ballast in the workings of four sets of points.. Not to mention the mess i hope the ply doesn't warp as it dries or theres going to be one hell of a bonfire at the weekend!!!! Grrrrrrrrr :(


One of the worst possible mishaps that could occur :doh:
Hope the damage is not irreparable.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on May 21, 2014, 10:31:27 PM
It could have been worse Only Me, imagine if the glue had been Evo Stick, you would be high has a kite by now.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on May 22, 2014, 05:23:45 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on May 21, 2014, 08:24:19 PM
So sorry to hear this on top of your other news, Jerry :(

My thoughts also. Hope the Mrs surgery is a complete success.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on May 23, 2014, 01:35:03 PM
I've been decorating the bathroom today and needed to order another tin of paint from Screwfix for tomorrow.  I rushed through the checkout and forgot to pay for Saturday delivery.  Now it won't be coming until Tuesday. :doh:  I'm back to work on Tuesay. :-\
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 23, 2014, 02:54:53 PM
Was Jezzer Clarkson driving that plastic pig? :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on May 23, 2014, 03:05:51 PM
Had an appointment for laser eye treatment this morning at Bournemouth hospital

8 AM phoned to book hospital car, after waiting in a queue of 4 for 25 minutes, I was told I could not book same as they need 24 hours notice (they also needed details from the appointment form, NHS number GP details, I could phone the Eye unit and get them to do the booking, but that would have taken too long so I would have been too late for the appointment, so booked a Taxi £18; arrived in time for the appointment at 10.15 had drops put in my eye about 10.45, finally got my treatment (which took 10 minutes!) at 11.30 which appears to have been successful (see happy thread) I then had to go to the pharmacy for some eye drops half hour wait, and was told to book hospital car through main reception after pharmacy, I was given a freephone at reception, but could not book as I no longer had my paperwork which had been handed in to eye unit reception, so all the way back to the eye unit, for them to book it, it took the receptionist nearly half hour to get a reply (long queue? 2 in queue)  eventually due to the fact that the car service had incorrect information on their screen they wouldn't take a booking, So she got authorisation to get a docket to pay for a taxi. That came from the other side of town so that was a further half hour, I finally left the hospital at 13.30 arriving home just before 1400, to find I'd missed the postie, so have to go collect a camera tomorrow!

So all told about 6 hours spent to get a 10 minute procedure done.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on May 23, 2014, 03:06:34 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on May 23, 2014, 02:54:53 PM
Was Jezzer Clarkson driving that plastic pig? :D

Think so, looks familiar that clip ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Wild on May 23, 2014, 09:07:26 PM
Got really cheesed off with organising several details for my continental caravan trip. When the last one asked me for the nth time to tell him my full name, postcode, 1st line of my address, my date of birth and my mother's maiden name, I said "Would you mind telling me your full name, postcode, 1st line of my address, my date of birth and my mother's maiden name". He didn't seem very amused, surprise, surprise.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on May 23, 2014, 10:50:16 PM
When I get annoyed with those sort of questions, I tell them that this call is being recorded for security and training purposes. It usually quiets them down a bit.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Wild on May 23, 2014, 10:52:35 PM
Quote from: Malc on May 23, 2014, 10:50:16 PM
I tell them that this call is being recorded for security and training purposes.

Yeah, I like that!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 25, 2014, 03:03:23 AM
They're either losing 'guests' of the local Moss Side prison or some git has flown his helicopter too low for the past 3 nights in the small hours :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Michael Shillabeer on May 25, 2014, 06:33:17 AM
500 European spec (I assume right hand drive too) 2015 Ford Mustangs were available to pre-order last night for a limited time, but you had to order without knowing the price! :veryangry:

Very unlikely to be in my budget, but its a car I've wanted for decades!

I hoping they will depreciate like a brick covered in concrete!

Best regards
Michael
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 25, 2014, 10:46:14 AM
Quote from: Michael Shillabeer on May 25, 2014, 06:33:17 AM
500 European spec (I assume right hand drive too) 2015 Ford Mustangs were available to pre-order last night for a limited time, but you had to order without knowing the price! :veryangry:


Bit like pre ordering Farish items then ;)

Quote from: Michael Shillabeer on May 25, 2014, 06:33:17 AM
I hoping they will depreciate like a brick covered in concrete!


As do all new cars :hmmm:

I hope the build quality is better than the original, which I believe was somewhat hit and miss
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on May 25, 2014, 08:20:25 PM
Terrible build quality - they even put the steering wheel on the wrong side!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on May 27, 2014, 12:41:09 PM
Its not just the NHS.

Mrs H due to be at hospital at 07:00 am this morning for the breast cancer op having been promised a date early in May.
Yesterday afternoon they phone me to say "delayed" we will call you with a new date.... :veryangry:

Jerry
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 27, 2014, 01:22:22 PM
That's awful, Jerry :o
I thought it was only in the UK things like that happen :unimpressed:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on May 27, 2014, 02:17:41 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on May 27, 2014, 12:41:09 PM
Its not just the NHS.

Mrs H due to be at hospital at 07:00 am this morning for the breast cancer op having been promised a date early in May.
Yesterday afternoon they phone me to say "delayed" we will call you with a new date.... :veryangry:

Jerry

Hope the new date is 'Tomorrow'!

All the best.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: REGP on May 27, 2014, 05:20:03 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on May 27, 2014, 12:41:09 PM
Its not just the NHS.

Mrs H due to be at hospital at 07:00 am this morning for the breast cancer op having been promised a date early in May.
Yesterday afternoon they phone me to say "delayed" we will call you with a new date.... :veryangry:

Jerry

That's shocking Jerry.

I do hope they come back quickly with the new date.

Ray
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on June 02, 2014, 09:36:17 PM
sent a paypal to a member on here, no names - no pack drill, on the 27th and then PMd him and asked him to confirm receipt of the payment.

nothing.

he was on line on th 28th, all it needed was a quick 'got it' but nothing  >:(

as of today, still nothing in the way of a PM, and nothing received yet.

am I just expecting too much in thinking that the courtesy of a reply was not too much ?

sale was by PM as listings were withdrawn, not through the N'porium.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on June 02, 2014, 10:14:11 PM
Well its only courteous to let you know, maybe they are away some where and cannot connect properly to make a reply.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on June 02, 2014, 10:18:20 PM
Quote from: Geoff on June 02, 2014, 10:14:11 PM
Well its only courteous to let you know, maybe they are away some where and cannot connect properly to make a reply.

quite agree, but I sent the paypal and PM around 2300 on the 27th, he was on line around 0800 28th ....

no probs if he'd said he was away for a few days, it's the lack of response that gets my back up.

I'll see how long it is before I get either a response, and / or the items I paid for.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on June 02, 2014, 11:15:13 PM
Buyer for my house changed his mind, after over 2 months, now got to start all over. Couple of points on the survey he didn't like, does he expect a house over 100 years old to be perfect????????
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on June 03, 2014, 07:10:19 AM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on June 02, 2014, 11:15:13 PM
Buyer for my house changed his mind, after over 2 months, now got to start all over. Couple of points on the survey he didn't like, does he expect a house over 100 years old to be perfect????????

Your lucky my lad has been waiting for an old couple to move out of there house now for 8 months, they find a house and then change there minds, talk about frustration is not in it, I feel sorry for him on this issue, He told them last weekend to forget the sale, I am sure some people just like looking round other folks homes, in that time he has had to apply for a mortgage 3 times.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on June 03, 2014, 07:19:23 AM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on June 02, 2014, 11:15:13 PM
does he expect a house over 100 years old to be perfect????????

Knowing people in general these days, yes ::) ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on June 07, 2014, 05:29:38 PM
Oh boy I am fuming, this weekend I am staying with family near Swindon, I checked a model shop at Royal Wooten Basset, and stated they had the J39 in stock, well we arrived there and they had none, why oh why do they advertise stock when they do not have it. Well  :censored: #%}#}{# its just not on, sorry but these people should not be in business.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on June 09, 2014, 06:28:26 PM
Last time I looked in there (if it's the same one) I think he had 1 loco, 1 coach and a couple of wagons for sale. A better shop in the area is Westons which is in the garden centre just off junction 16 towards Wroughton. It's only a small shop but it's better than the one in Basset itself.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: johnlambert on June 11, 2014, 05:06:40 PM
As per post in happy thread; got my Honda CBR600 bike through its MOT.  But now I can't find the V5C to get it off SORN and pay the appropriate VED.

I had a folder with all the paperwork in it (I have one for each of my car and bikes) and I can't find the folder at all, despite searching my flat from top to bottom.  So now I'm going to have to ask for a new V5C before I can tax it.

Mostly I'm annoyed at myself for losing the folder but I'm a little annoyed that it seems so hard to pay tax if you don't have the right bit of paper.  Just take my money, already! ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on June 13, 2014, 02:50:41 AM
Suffering with a bladder infection again. It happens every 4 -6 months. The problems with being diabetic that they don't tell you about
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 13, 2014, 04:05:23 AM
Quote from: Malc on June 13, 2014, 02:50:41 AM
Suffering with a bladder infection again. It happens every 4 -6 months. The problems with being diabetic that they don't tell you about

Sorry to hear that, Malc, and hope it gets cleared up soon :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on June 13, 2014, 09:06:03 AM
Quote from: Malc on June 13, 2014, 02:50:41 AM
Suffering with a bladder infection again. It happens every 4 -6 months.
Just a thought (you may already do this ...) but do you regularly have cranberries ?  Either juice, the berries themselves, or a supplement ?  It may help, as it has natural antibiotic properties ...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on June 13, 2014, 10:23:01 AM
I'll second the above  :thumbsup:

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on June 13, 2014, 10:27:07 AM
I have to say I had to goto the toilet in the middle of the night until I stopped eating oranges, not sure if that had anything to do with it, but I just tried coming off different things until something worked for me.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on June 13, 2014, 10:30:40 AM
Thanks guys, but I have been having 1/2 glass of cranberry last thing at night for about a year. It has to be the low sugar type, otherwise, being diabetic, it makes me get out more. The antibiotics usually kick in after a couple of days, otherwise I will miss going out for dinner with friends on Saturday
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ozymandias on June 13, 2014, 10:54:39 AM
Hope you feel better soon, Malc!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on June 13, 2014, 11:10:56 AM
Quote from: Malc on June 13, 2014, 10:30:40 AM
1/2 glass of cranberry last thing at night
Might be worth increasing to a half-glass in the morning as well ...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 17, 2014, 05:37:10 PM
Went to the local timber merchant this morning to get some ply for the backscenes/boxing on my small layout. I was told someone had gone home sick and that they'd call me just after lunch to let me know it was ready. Fair enough, I thought. I'm in no great rush.
Left it till 3.15pm - no call - so I went back and the lass in the sheet material section said it had been cut but then the guy who cut it went home sick before he could call me ::)

(a) She's lying (badly)
(b) Their staff are mainly Belgian or Algerian :-\
(c) Not sure I want their ply as there may be an epidemic illness on it :worried:

My money's on (a)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on June 17, 2014, 05:48:48 PM
Given the area you live in - mine's on all 3 !!!   :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on June 18, 2014, 07:34:54 AM
Malc... I've always found a beer antidotal but it doesn't do a lot to help going to the loo in the middle of the night  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 18, 2014, 10:11:26 AM
Seem to be suffering another plague of tiny red spider mites ::)
They tend to congregate on white uPVC but as that's what my conservatory is mainly constructed from and my main layout is in there, carnage is occurring.
I dare say if a train runs over one it won't do too much damage to the train, but the little critters do seem to explode as a red blob :goggleeyes:

No - I have no sympathy for the blighters either >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on June 18, 2014, 07:35:23 PM
got an e-mail from Hattons this afternoon, order processed  :thumbsup:

pack of 4 Dapol coupling springs price 60p  :thumbsup:

total charged to my card ----- £4.60  :veryangry:

got straight onto 'chat' and had a whinge, and they reduced it to £2.60 and refunded the other £2.  :thumbsup:

what I can't understand is how it got to £4 in the first place, when they quote £2 for less that 130 grams.

just waiting to see how big a box it arrives in, and how much bubblewrap and air bags I can add to the pile in the cupboard  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on June 20, 2014, 11:15:45 AM
Doctors.  Had blood test booked for 0930 and they were already running 1 hour late. They only opened at 0800. :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on June 20, 2014, 11:34:28 AM
They know your appointment time, so why couldn't they ring you and tell you to hang on at home a bit?  My doctor isn't too bad on the waiting front. Once when it was 45 mins, they apologised because some one had had a heart attack in the consulting room. Usually you go in with one complaint, but by the time you've spent 30 mins in close confines with 20 other people, you come out with 6 other complaints. Rant over, I'll get me coat.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on June 21, 2014, 09:24:36 PM
Quote from: class37025 on June 18, 2014, 07:35:23 PM
got an e-mail from Hattons this afternoon, order processed  :thumbsup:

pack of 4 Dapol coupling springs price 60p  :thumbsup:

total charged to my card ----- £4.60  :veryangry:

got straight onto 'chat' and had a whinge, and they reduced it to £2.60 and refunded the other £2.  :thumbsup:

what I can't understand is how it got to £4 in the first place, when they quote £2 for less that 130 grams.

just waiting to see how big a box it arrives in, and how much bubblewrap and air bags I can add to the pile in the cupboard  :hmmm:

update - arrived today in a box .....

10" x 5 1/2" x 4 1/2"  :confused2:

mind you huge stock of air bags and bubble wrap added to the store  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on June 21, 2014, 09:28:04 PM
Quote from: class37025 on June 02, 2014, 09:36:17 PM
sent a paypal to a member on here, no names - no pack drill, on the 27th and then PMd him and asked him to confirm receipt of the payment.

nothing.

he was on line on th 28th, all it needed was a quick 'got it' but nothing  >:(

as of today, still nothing in the way of a PM, and nothing received yet.

am I just expecting too much in thinking that the courtesy of a reply was not too much ?

sale was by PM as listings were withdrawn, not through the N'porium.

update - arrived today, date on the Royal Mail postage paid label .........20/06/14  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on June 21, 2014, 10:36:17 PM
Quote from: class37025 on June 21, 2014, 09:24:36 PM
Quote from: class37025 on June 18, 2014, 07:35:23 PM
got an e-mail from Hattons this afternoon, order processed  :thumbsup:

pack of 4 Dapol coupling springs price 60p  :thumbsup:

total charged to my card ----- £4.60  :veryangry:

got straight onto 'chat' and had a whinge, and they reduced it to £2.60 and refunded the other £2.  :thumbsup:

what I can't understand is how it got to £4 in the first place, when they quote £2 for less that 130 grams.

just waiting to see how big a box it arrives in, and how much bubblewrap and air bags I can add to the pile in the cupboard  :hmmm:

update - arrived today in a box .....

10" x 5 1/2" x 4 1/2"  :confused2:

mind you huge stock of air bags and bubble wrap added to the store  :smiley-laughing:

With a 'small' box that size its a wonder you found them :-X

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 22, 2014, 10:21:42 AM
What cretin has decided that when they introduce 'sportsmen' on TV they are looking at the ground, then look up and fold their arms?
I first noticed this in F1, then MotoGP and now the World Cup.

It just looks so horribly contrived and I bet someone got a fortune for thinking of the idea >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on June 22, 2014, 09:29:20 PM
Quote from: Oldun on June 21, 2014, 10:36:17 PM
Quote from: class37025 on June 21, 2014, 09:24:36 PM
Quote from: class37025 on June 18, 2014, 07:35:23 PM
got an e-mail from Hattons this afternoon, order processed  :thumbsup:

pack of 4 Dapol coupling springs price 60p  :thumbsup:

total charged to my card ----- £4.60  :veryangry:

got straight onto 'chat' and had a whinge, and they reduced it to £2.60 and refunded the other £2.  :thumbsup:

what I can't understand is how it got to £4 in the first place, when they quote £2 for less that 130 grams.

just waiting to see how big a box it arrives in, and how much bubblewrap and air bags I can add to the pile in the cupboard  :hmmm:

update - arrived today in a box .....

10" x 5 1/2" x 4 1/2"  :confused2:

mind you huge stock of air bags and bubble wrap added to the store  :smiley-laughing:

With a 'small' box that size its a wonder you found them :-X

Roger

no problem, they were wrapped in the bubble wrap  :no:

now finding them in their bag, that might be a different thing.

me, I'd have just stuck them in an envelope, after all they are in a Ziploc bag, possible cellotaped to the invoice.

but what would I know  :-\
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on June 22, 2014, 10:42:35 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on June 22, 2014, 10:21:42 AM
What cretin has decided that when they introduce 'sportsmen' on TV they are looking at the ground, then look up and fold their arms?
I first noticed this in F1, then MotoGP and now the World Cup.

It just looks so horribly contrived and I bet someone got a fortune for thinking of the idea >:(

They've done this with the golf for a few years now and you're right, it looks a bit 'plastic' to me.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on June 23, 2014, 07:36:54 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on June 22, 2014, 10:42:35 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on June 22, 2014, 10:21:42 AM
What cretin has decided that when they introduce 'sportsmen' on TV they are looking at the ground, then look up and fold their arms?
I first noticed this in F1, then MotoGP and now the World Cup.

It just looks so horribly contrived and I bet someone got a fortune for thinking of the idea >:(

They've done this with the golf for a few years now and you're right, it looks a bit 'plastic' to me.

it's a bit like the news, when they go to a reporter, and he does an impression of a noding donkey for several seconds before he can speak
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on June 23, 2014, 10:09:21 PM
The 4 second delay is because the reporter is looking at a satellite feed with a 2 second delay. Then their reply takes 2 seconds to get back to the studio, hence the reporter is actually agreeing with the comments the studio anchor is making.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 23, 2014, 10:29:45 PM
Quote from: Malc on June 23, 2014, 10:09:21 PM
The 4 second delay is because the reporter is looking at a satellite feed with a 2 second delay. Then their reply takes 2 seconds to get back to the studio, hence the reporter is actually agreeing with the comments the studio anchor is making.

Studio anchor? That's a new one as I've only heard 'merchant banker' before :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Greybeema on June 23, 2014, 11:43:45 PM
The other thing that they do is, when an actor is being interview by a local reporter - about their new film the interview with back scene was filmed in
A studio.  The local reporter is filmed asking the questions and nodding in agreement against a back scene that matches the one used by the actor  in the studio.  They never meet...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on June 24, 2014, 12:05:27 AM
The one that gets me is when the camera is a long way away from the reporter who looks as if they are talking to themselves to the public walking past.

This has to rate as one of the most idiotic methods of reporting ever  :unimpressed:

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on June 24, 2014, 12:18:11 AM
And while they're waiting at the gates of another football manager who has had the push,they fill in the time by interviewing another reporter.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on June 24, 2014, 12:23:22 AM
and why is it that before virtually anyone is interviewed they have to be filmed walking ?

just get on with the interview !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Balloon_726 on June 24, 2014, 12:27:12 AM
Quote from: class37025 on June 24, 2014, 12:23:22 AM
and why is it that before virtually anyone is interviewed they have to be filmed walking ?

just get on with the interview !

For those of us that have been trained by the BBC...

Its done as a 'context and establishing shot' its also used to allow for easier editing in and out of the interview be that live cut or pre-recorded, plus it can be used to add time to a package if its running short.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Balloon_726 on June 24, 2014, 12:29:12 AM
Have I got the point of the angry thread or should I just be more generically angry?  :veryangry:  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on June 24, 2014, 12:31:16 AM
My gripe these days is the way the person being interviewed asks themselves the questions. For example, "Do I think Fred Bloggs should be picked in the midfield? Yes, he's the right person for the job. Is there anyone else who can play here? Not at this moment no".

Do I think the above makes sense to others? To some yes, but maybe not all.

Damn, there I go doing it myself now!  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Balloon_726 on June 24, 2014, 12:38:28 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on June 24, 2014, 12:31:16 AM
My gripe these days is the way the person being interviewed asks themselves the questions. For example, "Do I think Fred Bloggs should be picked in the midfield? Yes, he's the right person for the job. Is there anyone else who can play here? Not at this moment no".

Do I think the above makes sense to others? To some yes, but maybe not all.

Damn, there I go doing it myself now!  :hmmm:

Ahh I remember being trained on how to do interviews like that as well ... so you as the presenter / interviewer can cut your own voice out of the recording so its just the interviewee .... been there done that... all i can say is im really sorry... but its just how things are done be it good or bad  :sorrysign:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on June 24, 2014, 12:55:18 AM
Another phrase that seems to have crept in is when someone is asked a question and they reply "That is a good question" before going on to answer the question  :help:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on June 24, 2014, 01:54:50 AM
And another response. "Yeah no". Make your mind up will you?!? It's one or the other, they are complete opposites!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Greybeema on June 24, 2014, 07:05:23 AM
Personally, myself, I hate tautology.

And why steal Michael Schumacher's medical records - how sick...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on June 24, 2014, 08:31:20 AM
Quote from: scotsoft on June 24, 2014, 12:55:18 AM
Another phrase that seems to have crept in is when someone is asked a question and they reply "That is a good question" before going on to answer the question  :help:

Well used by politicians down the ages - except when they reply "That is a good question", they proceed not to...  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on June 24, 2014, 09:09:50 AM
Quote from: talisman56 on June 24, 2014, 08:31:20 AM
Quote from: scotsoft on June 24, 2014, 12:55:18 AM
Another phrase that seems to have crept in is when someone is asked a question and they reply "That is a good question" before going on to answer the question  :help:

Well used by politicians down the ages - except when they reply "That is a good question", they proceed not to...  >:(
That's a very good question, but what you really should be asking is "Should all people seeking elected office be immediately excluded from such ?" and the answer to that is of course a resounding "YES".
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Greybeema on June 24, 2014, 09:17:39 AM
"That's a good question" means hold on while I figure out how to answer the question with the answer I have rehearsed...

Eg "what's the weather going to be"
"It's a complete policy u-turn by the opposition and our government never does policy u-turns".

Simples


Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Northman on June 28, 2014, 10:22:55 AM
anyone else having trouble right now with internet in UK?

I can get on here but not on several other websites - including Ebay where I have several things running.

My wife can't get onto Ancestry so is not a happy bunny either! ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 28, 2014, 01:33:09 PM
Yup - about 10.10 this morning I couldn't access various sites, including the forum :'(
Seems OK now.
Oh - and for those IE bashers, Firefox also had the same problems :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: REGP on June 29, 2014, 12:00:59 AM
I had similar problems this morning so was interested when the BBC came out with this report earlier:

"BT apologises for broadband outage
Technology / NEW 10 hours ago

BT has apologised after "many" users in the UK experienced problems recently connecting to the internet, but says the issue has now been resolved"

If like me you use BT it may be the answer.

Ray
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Chetcombe on June 29, 2014, 01:35:46 AM
Quote from: REGP on June 29, 2014, 12:00:59 AM
BT has apologised after "many" users in the UK experienced problems recently connecting to the internet

Which means someone hijacked the whole UK internet for a while???

Or was it just me downloading my unread messages from the NGF after having been away on business for a week :whistle:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on June 29, 2014, 07:23:28 AM
I was thinking I must have forgotten to put the plug back in before I left for Australia....  :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Northman on June 29, 2014, 10:03:34 AM
Actually the BT outage yesterday is probably my fault for tempting fate:

the day before BT have telephoned me to ask if I was going to renew my broadband subscription for the coming year and I said yes - being very pleased with speed and reliability of BT broadband :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 29, 2014, 10:44:31 PM
Some while ago I purchased a permanent marker pen with the objective of blackening some of the 'shinier' connecting rods on my old Minitrix/Farish steamers. I found it pretty poor so it's sat on my table ever since, but I've just noticed underneath the claim 'Marks on anything' it bears the legend 'Easy Erasing' :goggleeyes:
What's the point of a permanent marker pen when it can be easily erased? :confused1:
I want it to be permanent - not come off at the first touch :scowl:
Grrrrr
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 30, 2014, 08:08:58 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on June 29, 2014, 10:44:31 PM
it's sat on my table ever since

That sounds pretty permanent to me :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Chinahand on June 30, 2014, 08:40:32 AM
Hi Nobby,
I use a black 'Gunmetal' pen from my local Field Sport shop and it gives a shiny black, oily look to loco motions without rubbing off.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on June 30, 2014, 07:56:46 PM
Over on the Isle of Man for a one week holiday. Fetched up in Douglas off the ferry from Heysham (very nice, smooth crossing, what I saw of it - spent most of the time asleep in the lounge). Got to the self-catering accommodation and by the time we'd unpacked and got ourselves acclimatised it was a bit late for cooking. "Blow it" (or words to that effect) "- let's go out for a pub supper."

Be warned - Sunday evening in Douglas is not the best time to be searching for a pub (or anywhere else) that does food - they don't!!  :veryangry:

Ended up at the McDonalds...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on June 30, 2014, 08:22:10 PM
So you didn't actually get any food then?  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on June 30, 2014, 08:40:45 PM
Quote from: Malc on June 30, 2014, 08:22:10 PM
So you didn't actually get any food then?  :D

Have you been to the Isle of Man on a sunday, its normally shut.

Well it was when I last went in 1978..
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on June 30, 2014, 08:43:14 PM
I have been there for a weekend in March. Turns out it's shut from September to Easter.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on June 30, 2014, 08:52:41 PM
Presumably there are shops where you can buy cans of beans, soup,
fish fingers , Vesta curries etc.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on July 07, 2014, 09:36:32 PM
3 maybe 4 times in the last week Ive started to reach into my pocket to get a cigarette out  :doh: and have a smoke to assist my consentration.
Why oh Why did I do that?
I gave up smoking following NHS orders right back in 2008
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on July 07, 2014, 09:42:29 PM
Quote from: jonclox on July 07, 2014, 09:36:32 PM
3 maybe 4 times in the last week Ive started to reach into my pocket to get a cigarette out  :doh: and have a smoke to assist my consentration.
Why oh Why did I do that?
I gave up smoking following NHS orders right back in 2008

My cousin gave up smoking over 30 years ago and yet she admits to still wanting to have a ciggy now and again, but never does  :no:

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on July 07, 2014, 09:59:01 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on July 07, 2014, 09:42:29 PM
Quote from: jonclox on July 07, 2014, 09:36:32 PM
3 maybe 4 times in the last week Ive started to reach into my pocket to get a cigarette out  :doh: and have a smoke to assist my consentration.
Why oh Why did I do that?
I gave up smoking following NHS orders right back in 2008

My cousin gave up smoking over 30 years ago and yet she admits to still wanting to have a ciggy now and again, but never does  :no:

cheers John.
Oh I never intend to have another one but just this last week the cravings have been there
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on July 07, 2014, 11:00:22 PM
I believe you never really give up, it's just a long time between drags.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ozymandias on July 08, 2014, 09:15:30 AM
Ha! How right you are, Malc!

I slipped back into bad ways last year after having stopped for quite a few years - I haven't had a "real" one for months but now I can't kick the e-cigarettes (fortunately SWMBO can't smell these!!)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on July 08, 2014, 10:06:13 PM
It's been 162 days since I had a real cigarette after going from around 25 per day to an e-cig. I expect to still have the odd craving for a very long time especially as I've smoked for around 35 years until Jan 28th this year. It means that even after taking away the cost of e-cig refills, batteries etc I have saved £1,152.78. Roughly  ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on July 09, 2014, 07:54:44 AM
It's 42 years since I had my last cigarette and I still get the odd craving but just couldn't afford it these days I am pleased to say.   :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on July 09, 2014, 07:58:43 AM
Keep spending it on locos, Caz.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on July 09, 2014, 09:35:51 AM
I was on 20+ a day! depending on who I was working with. Most of the lads I worked with had the habit and we could smoke at work in those days. Some days I suspect it was nearer 40. I managed to give up in the 80's when I had a vicious head cold. Stopped for 2 years, had a cigar at a wedding, started again. Finally gave up when I was diagnosed with diabetes in '94.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: REGP on July 09, 2014, 09:45:25 AM
Gave up a 20 a day habit at turn of the century with the aid of patches.
Don't get the craving any more, but do like the aroma of a good cigar, strange as I never smoked them.
Ray
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MinZaPint on July 09, 2014, 11:31:45 AM
Tax demand landed on the mat this morning  :veryangry: Work all your life paying taxes and trying to save a pension and then they tax the pension companies reducing my pot by a third!, take a little job (32 days a year) to try and make up the difference and they tax me on that!  :veryangry:  :veryangry: The "B :censored: 's"
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on July 09, 2014, 12:11:26 PM
Quote from: MinZaPint on July 09, 2014, 11:31:45 AM
Tax demand landed on the mat this morning  :veryangry: Work all your life paying taxes and trying to save a pension and then they tax the pension companies reducing my pot by a third!, take a little job (32 days a year) to try and make up the difference and they tax me on that!  :veryangry:  :veryangry: The "B :censored: 's"

Same with me I got my pension and the gits took a third, then they sent me a letter stating I had not paid enough and decided to take another £300, and told me they would adjust my tax code to pay it back that way, each year I am worse off because of the tax man, for some reason the poor get taxed and the rich can hide it.  :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Michael Hendle on July 09, 2014, 08:45:23 PM
I have just had a bust up with the tax people,again they say I underpaid my income tax,this is the 3rd year running now,I have just the normal single persons state pension,and a Occupation Pension.

They put me on a tax code of 181L to pay off the under payment,which I thought was a bit much as it was their fault,giving the wrong tax code last year to my Occupational Pension Provider,

I rang up the Tax people,and asked what was going on,they said they would ring me back,which they did today,all full of apologize they had got it all wrong ends up I overpaid them £250.00 last year,so I'm now getting a refund and a new tax code.

What annoys me is the Government have given them the right to deduct under payments with out having to tell,by giving you a low tax code,even if it's their fault.
Mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on July 09, 2014, 10:52:52 PM
The tax man said I'd underpaid my national insurance by £2500 last year and demanded the money, with 60p a day interest. I only worked 3 months as I have retired now, and have already paid £2800. My accountant didn't know what they were doing, so rang them up and it turns out they couldn't explain it either and it would be 8 - 10 weeks before I get a reply.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on July 10, 2014, 01:53:39 PM
Nice one - serves them right. They only pick on us because it is easier than chasing Starbucks.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on July 10, 2014, 10:25:17 PM
So for my wife's sisters birthday we think what to do ?

She lives in a small town in East Anglia in a house with 2 other ladies and has a fiance, however she is 50 years old and has Downs syndrome.
Before being made reundant , she had a job (cleaning etc) at a home for the handicapped until some bright spark decided that any "care home" had to have en suite facilities even if the residents were bed bound, but thats another story.

Anyway living "off shore" we ordered her a large Tshirt with "Name printed" is Dr Whos new assistant as she is obsessed with the programme.

When we phoned her yesterday she told us that one of her "staff" previously called care workers, had told her not to wear it in the town as if she went out she could be abducted!!!  She lives a normal life and has a day job, neadless to say the aforementioned member of "staff" is yet to reach maturity as they sacked anyone over the age of 25 years ago.... :veryangry:

She is 50 and weighs circa 17 stone!!!! 

What has happened to the UK ????
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on July 11, 2014, 12:51:50 AM
To Jerry Howlett, find out the procedures about this and get the management
involved, not easy at a distance, but these clowns should be booted out
of any "care system".

Those involved with Her Majesty's minions put in formal complaints, see your
MP if you can track down the lazy ******.

Kick up a stink , but it's no point moaning about Starbucks, what they're doing
is perfectly legal and anyone is entitled to minimise their tax liabilities .

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on July 11, 2014, 11:18:09 AM
What Starbucks et al do may be legal, but morally it sucks...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GScaleBruce on July 12, 2014, 02:11:26 PM
I've just discovered what happens if you accidentally flick an n gauge wagon onto the floor from a height of just over 4 feet.

It shatters into a myriad broken pieces.  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on July 12, 2014, 02:35:34 PM
So begins a new kit building project ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on July 15, 2014, 06:19:16 PM
Quote from: Caz on May 12, 2014, 09:39:01 PM
I don't post on this thread very often as it takes a lot to get me angry, but now I am really angry.  Managed to have the winning bid on Saturday on an eBay item that I had been after for quite a while, this evening I receive the following communication from the seller, stinks to me.

QUOTE

Dear  :censored:,

Hi,
unfortunately I have posted your item to another one of my customers by mistake, he has now gone on holiday and will not be back until the middle of June. The question is do you want to wait that long or would you prefer that I give you a full refund, when I get it back from him I will let you know and give you 1st option to buy it if you don't buy another in the meantime. I am really sorry about this.
Kind regards Jen
:censored:   Reply in your email program or through My Messages

END QUOTE

Here is an update to my original moan as I have finally heard back from the advertiser of the missing building I won cheaply on eBay.

QUOTE
Hi
The buyer has not returned the item - I think I am going to have to kiss it goodbye - he says he is abroad!
Jen

- jennywensky
END QUOTE

Miraculously the model-railway-emporium which is nearby to the original advertiser now has an additional over priced one for sale, I smell a rat so I would avoid Jenny Wensky for eBay purchases unless you want to be conned.  I have told her what I think has really happened, wonder if I will get a reply.

:veryangry: :censored: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 15, 2014, 09:32:04 PM
Have you asked her for a refund, Caz?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on July 15, 2014, 10:07:44 PM
Oh yes, I had my refund but had to agree to cancel the purchase and she promised to sell it to me at the winning bid price when it was returned!  Regrettably as the sale was cancelled I can't leave any feedback.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 15, 2014, 10:12:49 PM
Glad you're not out of pocket and thanks for the warning, Caz
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Luke Piewalker on July 19, 2014, 09:00:36 PM
Parents. Computers. Toolbars. Remote Assistance.  :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on July 19, 2014, 09:03:47 PM
Quote from: Luke Piewalker on July 19, 2014, 09:00:36 PM
Parents. Computers. Toolbars. Remote Assistance.  :doh:

Look on the bright side, at least you did not have to go round  :D

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Luke Piewalker on July 19, 2014, 10:45:04 PM
No, but I had to try and explain over the phone how to generate the remote assistance request...  :confused1:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on July 19, 2014, 11:10:55 PM
Quote from: Luke Piewalker on July 19, 2014, 10:45:04 PM
No, but I had to try and explain over the phone how to generate the remote assistance request...  :confused1:

Even worse, I feel for you  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on July 23, 2014, 09:53:09 AM
Temporary traffic lights. You wait for ages to get past a row of cones with no one working and no sign that they ever will!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on July 23, 2014, 02:41:14 PM
Oh boy I am raging inside my rage is spilling over, as a trade for one of the bedrooms upstairs I had to sort our living room out new suite and new furniture the suite cam that was fine with and excellent service, but when the furniture came the day after well the air was blue, I have never seen such a load of tat in all my life, this is a well known store and quality control is no where to be seen, the poor girl on the other end of the phone absorbed all my rage and could not be apologetic enough, but I am sorry but I will never shop in that store ever again, I wonder if people do accept goods that are sub standard and why do stores think we are going to take rubbish in, When we went to the store to pick the items of furniture they looked superb but when they delivered there said pieces of furniture every one had faults on them.

Sorry for the rant but I wonder how long it will take them to give me my money back...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on July 23, 2014, 02:48:15 PM
Who's the store ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on July 24, 2014, 09:20:52 AM
next few days off all planned ....

2 x 6x4 pent sheds to be delivered today, I give them a couple of coats of treatment, then

tomorrow son in law has taken a day off work, and he and I get them together, roof on and power run from the railway shed, mate round tomorrow evening, he's an electrician, to check wiring, then freezer from old summerhouse into one of the new sheds.

Saturday they are off on holiday for a week, so I can get on with demolishing old summerhouse and building the base for new, larger summerhouse / garden room for SWMBO - not to be used for storing junk, she wants somewhere she can sit out in the garden.

son in law back next weekend, and we get the summerhouse built, then I can get it lined / floored / power etc.

all planned, nothing can go wrong can it  :hmmm:

only the delivery turns up this morning with 2 apex roof sheds, not the pent ones that were ordered, and are on the paperwork  >:(

phoned company - oh I don't know what happened there, I'll get back to you  :veryangry:

won't be able to deliver correct sheds now till next week  :censored:

Q. what's the second shed for ?

A. guess  ;) :D ;D

update - sheds ordered from Shedstore, manufacturer is Forest garden
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on July 24, 2014, 02:31:38 PM
just had a phone call from Forest Gardens to tell me that they are now delivering the sheds next Thursday  :veryangry:

no real apology, and by her attitude not bothered about the disruption caused by their incompetance

"I can sympathise with your frustration but there's nothing we can do"

which I translated as - couldn't give a f damn about the inconvenience we've caused.

still waiting to hear from Shedstore, who were going to get back to me this morning ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on July 24, 2014, 02:38:35 PM
No one gives a dam in this country no more as long as they get there money, service, quality control etc has gone out of the window.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 24, 2014, 05:03:08 PM
Speaking of sheds, there's a programme on Channel 4 tonight about the Shed of the Year competition. Might we see some film of Tank's entry, I wonder :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on July 24, 2014, 09:07:42 PM
Class 66s don't count :D


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on July 26, 2014, 08:53:47 AM
Coming home from my daughters  there was a big four wheel drive car trying to make me exceed the 30 MPH speed limit it was about 2ft from my rear bumper, as soon as we where in the 50 mph area it dropped back .BUT guese what I came to the next village 30 mph looked in my mirror and there was the same Idiot right behind me ,obviously the driver doesn't understand the speed signs, and must have been in cruise control  IE  drives at one speed regardless
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: SD35 on July 26, 2014, 08:58:09 AM
On the bright side Bob, revel smugly in the knowledge that they've never made an n gauge railcar as well as you have!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on July 26, 2014, 01:38:38 PM
I've had those too Bob, just as annoying when in front of you!

Held up for miles and miles doing 40mph in a 60 limit, no safe place to overtake with oncoming traffic, only to see them shoot off still doing 40 when we come to a 30 limit! :no:


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on July 26, 2014, 02:20:25 PM
I know it sounds terrible, but some people really shouldn't be on the road...

Thursday I was taking my car in for MOT, at 8.15am (ie in the midst of the rush-hour). Following a car at 28mph in 30 limit. OK so far. Derestricted road (60mph max) - gently accelerate to 32mph and then stay there. Wait! a car approaches from the other direction - slow right down to 20mph. Then gently accelerate to 32mph again. Another vehicle approaches, slow down again - aaargh, its a bus! - slow to a dead crawl. Accelerate again, oooh, get the oxygen out, 35mph! A-ha! a straight stretch, nothing coming, I'll overtake - then something appears from round the next corner - damn! Car in front slows down again...

Long story short, a 15 minute trip took 25 because of this incompetent driver...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on July 26, 2014, 02:32:48 PM
I can never understand why, on a standard width road, if they stay their side of the dotted line, they feel they have to slow to a crawl when a vehicle comes the other way. I agree, they should at least go back for some driving lessons. There are some times it should be legal to use forward mounted rockets!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on July 26, 2014, 03:06:18 PM
Quote from: Malc on July 26, 2014, 02:32:48 PM
I can never understand why, on a standard width road, if they stay their side of the dotted line, they feel they have to slow to a crawl when a vehicle comes the other way. I agree, they should at least go back for some driving lessons. There are some times it should be legal to use forward mounted rockets!

That'd make a bit of a mess, and cause a lot of awkward questions...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on July 26, 2014, 03:10:51 PM
Quote from: talisman56 on July 26, 2014, 02:20:25 PM
Thursday I was taking my car in for MOT, at 8.15am (ie in the midst of the rush-hour). Following a car at 28mph in 30 limit. OK so far. Derestricted road (60mph max) - gently accelerate to 32mph and then stay there. Wait! a car approaches from the other direction - slow right down to 20mph. Then gently accelerate to 32mph again. Another vehicle approaches, slow down again - aaargh, its a bus! - slow to a dead crawl. Accelerate again, oooh, get the oxygen out, 35mph! A-ha! a straight stretch, nothing coming, I'll overtake - then something appears from round the next corner - damn! Car in front slows down again...

My ex used to do that.  Probably still does :doh:  But her greatest achievement was stopping in the middle of a level-crossing to look both ways :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on July 26, 2014, 03:23:47 PM
 I was just thinking with all the government cuts we will have to look on fleabay we might be able to pick up a tank or armoured car with rockets on that would be fun I could then go on the Happy thread By the way thanks SD35 For your kind remarks about my railcar and to everyone else who have said it looks good.
BHE are of to Southwold next weekend we will need the rockets up there MAX  speed about 25 mph once you get of the A12 they all have horse and carts but a lovely part of the country ..
Tutenkhamunsleeping my mothering law stops on Motorway slip roads to see if any things coming I nearly smashed into the back of her once there was nothing coming for miles but she did actualy stop even my wife said she was a bleep bleep bleep
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Michael Shillabeer on July 26, 2014, 03:56:51 PM
Not rockets but you could buy an Abbot Self Propelled gun

http://www.milweb.net/webvert/72058 (http://www.milweb.net/webvert/72058)

or a Russian T-72 tank!

http://www.exarmyvehicles.com/offer/tracked-vehicles/tanks/main-battle-tank-t-72-m/ (http://www.exarmyvehicles.com/offer/tracked-vehicles/tanks/main-battle-tank-t-72-m/)

Best regards
Michael
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on July 26, 2014, 04:13:20 PM
Quote from: Michael Shillabeer on July 26, 2014, 03:56:51 PM
Not rockets but you could buy an Abbot Self Propelled gun
http://www.milweb.net/webvert/72058[/url
(http://www.milweb.net/webvert/72058)

Just the "No Unsolicted Callers" sign I've been looking for  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on July 26, 2014, 05:06:23 PM
Does the abbot  gun and the Russian tank come with a full MOT and could I afford the fuel what about fully comp insurance No as much as I'd  like one Ill Stick to my 16 year old Punto SX
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on July 26, 2014, 06:49:56 PM
You  don't want that one: http://www.milweb.net/webvert/72058 (http://www.milweb.net/webvert/72058)  :no: :no:

You want this one: http://www.exarmyvehicles.com/offer/tracked-vehicles/other-tracked-vehicles/self-propelled-gun-2s7-pion (http://www.exarmyvehicles.com/offer/tracked-vehicles/other-tracked-vehicles/self-propelled-gun-2s7-pion)  >:D >:D >:D

Roger

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on July 26, 2014, 07:01:36 PM
The PION certainly gets a move on when it wants to. What do you think its green credentials are like?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on July 26, 2014, 07:58:50 PM
Quote from: Oldun on July 26, 2014, 06:49:56 PM
You  don't want that one: http://www.milweb.net/webvert/72058 (http://www.milweb.net/webvert/72058)  :no: :no:

You want this one: http://www.exarmyvehicles.com/offer/tracked-vehicles/other-tracked-vehicles/self-propelled-gun-2s7-pion (http://www.exarmyvehicles.com/offer/tracked-vehicles/other-tracked-vehicles/self-propelled-gun-2s7-pion)  >:D >:D >:D

Roger

But I don't have any 203.2 MM shells in my store ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Greybeema on July 26, 2014, 08:28:54 PM
I have quite a fast car but it is surprising when someone is trying to tailgate me how slowly I can drive.  I don't break hard I just slowly reduce speed and drive near the centre of the road.  Usually at about 10 KPH the car behind gets the idea.  The advantage of a fast car is that those 4x4s can't accelerate as well..
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 26, 2014, 08:46:30 PM
Having driven to Stoke and back today on the dear ole M6 I was very perturbed on the return journey to see all those drivers going on holiday who obviously do not go anywhere near a motorway at other times and consequently have no idea of motorway driving so just clog everything up. I believe we ought to have certain roads (as in Portugal) with strictly enforced minimum speeds :hmmm:
It's also quite mind boggling to see the lower half of legs hung out of the front passenger window :goggleeyes: I know it's extremely hot but just think what would happen if the car was involved in an accident :worried:
4 x 4's towing wobbly boxes (caravans) at 80 mph do the drivers reputation no help either ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on July 28, 2014, 11:54:09 AM
 :veryangry:
I love my 2 grandkids but they have a nasty habit of catching things at playgroups or playschool and then spreading it about. They very kindly gave me a chest infection last week that even though I fought it has meant that Ive had to break into our emergency backup stock of antibiotics. At least our GP is good enough to make sure I always have a backup stock of anti bios and steroids tucked away at home. I hate taking either of them but at times theres just no alternative
Bang goes my bulk soldering for a few days again.  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on July 28, 2014, 12:42:01 PM
I understand that predicament very well, every time I went to a birthday party for my Godson I was always laid low by one thing or another  :'(

The only consolation, so was everyone else  :doh:

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GeeBee on July 28, 2014, 04:32:15 PM
Me to, my grandson kindly donated chicken pox result temperature of 104 for three days and no real recollection of the holiday we were on at the time. His parents now check before bringing him anywhere near me ho hum
:o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 28, 2014, 04:35:41 PM
Quote from: GeeBee on July 28, 2014, 04:32:15 PM
His parents now check before bringing him anywhere near me ho hum
:o

I don't even know where me ho hum is, let alone let anyone near it ???
Me Ho Hum - well, I'll be a Chinaman :doh:

I'll get me coat :sorrysign:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GeeBee on July 28, 2014, 04:41:22 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 28, 2014, 04:35:41 PM
Quote from: GeeBee on July 28, 2014, 04:32:15 PM
His parents now check before bringing him anywhere near me ho hum
:o

I don't even know where me ho hum is, let alone let anyone near it ???
Me Ho Hum - well, I'll be a Chinaman :doh:

I'll get me coat :sorrysign:

Mick, Hi it's just outside Folkestone or it was then
:claphappy:  :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on August 04, 2014, 02:46:10 PM
Quote from: class37025 on July 24, 2014, 02:31:38 PM
just had a phone call from Forest Gardens to tell me that they are now delivering the sheds next Thursday  :veryangry:

no real apology, and by her attitude not bothered about the disruption caused by their incompetance

"I can sympathise with your frustration but there's nothing we can do"

which I translated as - couldn't give a f damn about the inconvenience we've caused.

still waiting to hear from Shedstore, who were going to get back to me this morning ::)


update :

needless to say no call from Shedstore Friday, so phoned them Monday - "oh, don't know who told you that, someone from Forest Gardens will ring you when they've delivered the sheds"  - Thursday afternoon and a truck arrives, and actually delivered the right sheds  :thumbsup:

nothing from Forest Gardens so rang them this morning - "oh, yes I can see there were some note put on the original delivery, but it wasn't passed to anyone. I'll pass it on and someone will phone you "

anyone want to guess how long that will take ?

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 04, 2014, 05:23:01 PM
I guess you won't be holding your breath awaiting that call :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Wild on August 07, 2014, 12:58:33 AM
Angry three times:

1. Some brain-dead blockhead reversed into my car while I was sitting in it in a layby.
2. Soldering the frame for my Beamish colliery. Put down the micro-blowlamp while I wiped the joint. Funny smell and found it was pointing straight at the trigger of my electric drill. Hit it with a big hammer though and it seems OK.
3. Big rusty split appeared in my not very old lawnmower body. Caused the grass box to fall off. Dealer said it wasn't worth repairing. So it looks as if it's out with the pop-rivet gun and a piece of cover sheet.

Grrrr .....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 07, 2014, 09:55:38 AM
Oh dear, Bob.
I can only suggest you take the micro blowlamp to the aforesaid brain dead blockhead and then finish him/her off with the big hammer >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 07, 2014, 01:32:36 PM
Car shot across my bows at a traffic light controlled junction. She said she didn't see me. I hit her in the side. Ended up getting a tow to a garage for extensive repairs. First new car I've had, just 1900 miles on the clock.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Wild on August 07, 2014, 02:17:09 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 07, 2014, 09:55:38 AM
finish him/her off with the big hammer >:D

I tried not to be politically incorrect - but it wasn't a bloke. No comment.

But on the bright side - there were already some scratches on the bumper from when I ran over and demolished the dog's cage. So I've had that repaired for free!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 07, 2014, 03:50:59 PM
Quote from: Malc on August 07, 2014, 01:32:36 PM
Car shot across my bows at a traffic light controlled junction. She said she didn't see me.

???
Had she gone across on red, Malc?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 07, 2014, 04:19:11 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 07, 2014, 03:50:59 PM
Quote from: Malc on August 07, 2014, 01:32:36 PM
Car shot across my bows at a traffic light controlled junction. She said she didn't see me.

???
Had she gone across on red, Malc?
Afraid so, but there were no witnesses, so I expect it will be knock for knock. I didn't have anywhere I could go, so just anchored up and steered as far away as I could. Police were passing and stopped to control the traffic, checked we were legal etc, but didn't see the accident.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 07, 2014, 04:43:05 PM
Quote from: Malc on August 07, 2014, 04:19:11 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 07, 2014, 03:50:59 PM
Quote from: Malc on August 07, 2014, 01:32:36 PM
Car shot across my bows at a traffic light controlled junction. She said she didn't see me.

???
Had she gone across on red, Malc?
Afraid so, but there were no witnesses, so I expect it will be knock for knock. I didn't have anywhere I could go, so just anchored up and steered as far away as I could. Police were passing and stopped to control the traffic, checked we were legal etc, but didn't see the accident.

Very sorry to hear that and hope the damage is not too costly. Have you got protected no claims?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 07, 2014, 04:58:32 PM
Thanks for that Mick, yes I have protected no claims, but the basic premium is bound to go up. In addition I had to spend 20 mins giving all the details, inside leg measurement etc on a premium rate line. 14p/min.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on August 07, 2014, 06:29:28 PM
Glad to see you came out OK at the end of the day the car can be fixed , as usual the cops don't want to know even though it must have been obvious who was in the wrong ,hope your back on the road soon
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 07, 2014, 06:42:49 PM
Thanks Bob. The insurance includes a free courtesy car. I am now driving a Focus. Nice car, but it has a slight problem. There are 3 pedals on the floor. What do you do with the one on the left? Also the gearbox makes a funny noise when I change gear.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on August 07, 2014, 06:54:46 PM
Trust Ford to economise again .. Better get back to the angry thread or we will be told off .
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on August 07, 2014, 07:11:07 PM
By economise I meant putting the extra peddle in to make you change gear yourself instead of fitting the more expensive automatic gearbox... I'm not sure if this has already been sent .Back to angry thread I got sidetracked by one of those !,,,,,,,,,,,,! Annoying phone calls telling me I could borrow £5000 at a very good rate  well for the company anyway .so sorry if this comes on the forum twice
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on August 07, 2014, 08:52:00 PM
Went through the farce of phoning GP (repeat dialling from 8.30 till got through at 8.57) and no appointment to see doctor until 15 August. Mentioned that my foot might drop off by them (extremely painful and funny colour), so "upgraded" to see Practice Nurse at 5.15 today. Looked at foot, looked at medical records, and confirmed what I thought it was - another flare up of osteomyelitis. On antibiotics now, for 7 days, then go back if no better and will order x-rays to see what is going on. Shut left ankle in gate, as a 9 year old, and chipped bone, which let in the germ. Now only need an insect bite (last one a really nasty Moroccan one), and the dormant germ wakes up and off we go again, with abscesses on the bone. At least I can still get about, as I drive an auto!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 07, 2014, 09:37:11 PM
I'll not mention any particular type of attack dog, but they're usually easier to get past than a doctor's receptionist ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: kaiwhara on August 19, 2014, 03:29:29 AM
 :censored: ! I want to scream! :censored:

I put my Subaru into a workshop this morning because at its last service the Rocker Cover Gasket had been identified as needing replacement (day off today). Expecting a bill of around $350 for that, no biggy. That soon became both Head Gaskets needing immediate replacement and the car off the road for a week (Bill now around $2000). Not impressed.  :veryangry:

But wait, there's more! The other half goes out to get some Paint Stripper, and crashes the Golf!  :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

So now I have no cars, no replacement vehicle for mine available until Friday, I am on earlies, I live in the wops, and my work gear (including my Train Keys) are in the back of the Subaru, on top of a hoist!

Anyone comes up with any other problems, are likely to get shot. Just warning you Mr Murphy! :veryangry2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on August 19, 2014, 07:24:47 AM
Oh  :censored:

Can almost hear you this side of the ditch!

Good luck!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: kaiwhara on August 19, 2014, 07:46:48 AM
Sounds like the Golf is a write off now. All air bags deployed etc. Other half is okay if shaken up, but very poor timing.

Oh, and we booked our break to Queenstown last night too. Wouldn't have done that had we known what would happen today. Kinda gad we did though.....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on August 19, 2014, 07:55:10 AM
You'll probably enjoy your Queenstown trip more than ever. :beers:

George
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on August 19, 2014, 11:03:06 AM
Not my car but my sons. Parked outside the house every night - he got up to find this on his car this morning  :veryangry:

[smg id=14991]

It seems to have been done by some local idiot doing handbrake turns into the turning opposite the house.
Before anyone says you shouldn't park opposite a side turning, the local dustman complimented him on it
being parked where it was as he could just reverse into the turning without any maneuvering.  :)

Just keeping a lookout for rear end damaged cars visiting the locals now.

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on August 19, 2014, 09:35:58 PM
Quote from: class37025 on August 04, 2014, 02:46:10 PM
Quote from: class37025 on July 24, 2014, 02:31:38 PM
just had a phone call from Forest Gardens to tell me that they are now delivering the sheds next Thursday  :veryangry:

no real apology, and by her attitude not bothered about the disruption caused by their incompetance

"I can sympathise with your frustration but there's nothing we can do"

which I translated as - couldn't give a f damn about the inconvenience we've caused.

still waiting to hear from Shedstore, who were going to get back to me this morning ::)


update :

needless to say no call from Shedstore Friday, so phoned them Monday - "oh, don't know who told you that, someone from Forest Gardens will ring you when they've delivered the sheds"  - Thursday afternoon and a truck arrives, and actually delivered the right sheds  :thumbsup:

nothing from Forest Gardens so rang them this morning - "oh, yes I can see there were some note put on the original delivery, but it wasn't passed to anyone. I'll pass it on and someone will phone you "

anyone want to guess how long that will take ?

guess what -------

still no contact from Forest Gardens by last Friday, so went on their website and used their 'contact us' link and complained yet again.

automated reply 'a member of our staff will be in touch shortly' --- lieing :censored: sods, no phone call, no email, so I guess its a case of don't touch these two firms with a bargepole in future.
sheds now built, as a 12 x 4 but with one spare end as an internal wall giving a 4x4 and an 8x4 setion, after usual poor workmanship repaired, ie tonge & grove not engaged properly at the top of one side before nailed, numerous nails hammered home, thought nail guns did this, and a couple of wrongly aligned then nailed frame pieces had the nails cut, framing realigned, and then renailed, properly.

in other words, just what you'd expect to do with a new shed, yes  >:D

SWMBO is happy with the 4x4 part, electricity now in and awaiting checking by an electrician mate before freezer moved in there.

'What are you doing with the other part?' mmmmmmmmmmm  :hmmm:

answers on a postcard  :D

cheers

alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 19, 2014, 09:58:29 PM
Glad things are coming together on the mancave front, Alan, and I hope all goes well in the negotiations for the 'big' bit :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on August 19, 2014, 11:43:04 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 19, 2014, 09:58:29 PM
Glad things are coming together on the mancave front, Alan, and I hope all goes well in the negotiations for the 'big' bit :D

no need to negotiate ........

I've kept the keys to the padlocks  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on August 20, 2014, 11:51:43 AM
Suppliers who advertise something as 'in stock' then sit on the order for a week or two.
I quite understand that a small retailer could have problems getting to the post every day but 2 weeks is starting to get me angry.
Even emails fail to get replies it seems
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on August 21, 2014, 08:33:30 PM
Quote from: Oldun on August 19, 2014, 11:03:06 AM
Not my car but my sons. Parked outside the house every night - he got up to find this on his car this morning  :veryangry:
[smg id=14991]
It seems to have been done by some local idiot doing handbrake turns into the turning opposite the house.
Before anyone says you shouldn't park opposite a side turning, the local dustman complimented him on it
being parked where it was as he could just reverse into the turning without any maneuvering.  :)

Sorted, no insurance involved - just purchased a good secondhand door and son gets a free respray at his work place
by the guy who sprays the boats (ex vehicle sprayer) with his boss's blessing.  Cost of door, £42.00 delivered :thumbsup:

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 21, 2014, 09:30:58 PM
Good result, Roger, especially by avoiding getting the insurance company involved :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on August 21, 2014, 09:36:16 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 21, 2014, 09:30:58 PM
Good result, Roger, especially by avoiding getting the insurance company involved :thumbsup:

No brainer really, door £42, insurance excess £100 + possible rise in premiums  ;)

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on August 22, 2014, 09:33:26 AM
Got back to my car recently to find a big crease by the nearside rear wheel arch.

Pretty obvious that someone couldn't judge the size of their car when entering or leaving the car park and didn't have the decency to leave a note.

Real nuisance as the car was going for trade in soon after our move.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Greybeema on August 22, 2014, 09:57:51 AM
Same for me.  Left car in car park.  6 month old BMW 4 Series.  Came back, dent in door.  Dent is obviously caused by someone opening their door into it.  All I can say is they must have opened the door with some force...

No note...  No sorry...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on August 22, 2014, 10:02:12 AM
Quote from: daveg on August 22, 2014, 09:33:26 AM
Got back to my car recently to find a big crease by the nearside rear wheel arch.
Pretty obvious that someone couldn't judge the size of their car when entering or leaving the car park and didn't have the decency to leave a note.

Quote from: Greybeema on August 22, 2014, 09:57:51 AM
Same for me.  Left car in car park.  6 math old BMW 4 Series.  Came back dent in door.  Dent is obviously caused by someone opening their door into it.  All I can say is they must have opened the door with some force...       No note...  No sorry...

That's the trouble with a lot of car drivers these days. They seem to think its perfectly acceptable to 'ding' other peoples cars but, do it to their
car and they will 'hit the roof'  :scowl:

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on August 22, 2014, 10:30:13 AM
I'm in a bad mood got woken up by my mobile at 3-43am with a text from Orange offering half price tickets to a rugby match at Twickenham How do you stop these stupid idiotic texts at that time in the morning .I threw the phone out of the bedroom door in my temper luckily it didn't do any damage my mobile is only used for emergencies ,think I will turn it off till the next time I want to use it.
A rather tired Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on August 22, 2014, 10:53:06 AM
A while ago T Mobile had a racket, sending you text news flashes and charging about
30p a time I think,managed to get it shut off my mobile. The flashes were not instant
news scoops , often stuff like "Cameron to meet Merkel" etc.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on August 25, 2014, 04:08:13 PM
Quote from: Bob Tidbury on August 22, 2014, 10:30:13 AM
I'm in a bad mood got woken up by my mobile at 3-43am with a text from Orange offering half price tickets to a rugby match at Twickenham How do you stop these stupid idiotic texts at that time in the morning .I threw the phone out of the bedroom door in my temper luckily it didn't do any damage my mobile is only used for emergencies ,think I will turn it off till the next time I want to use it.
A rather tired Bob

You phone up their customer service freephone number and complain, every text you get. It costs them real money to answer all your calls and escalate them all through their complaints people.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Northman on August 25, 2014, 04:50:34 PM
Buy an alarm clock and turn the mobile off when you go to bed?

How did we ever live without the mobile nuisance - I always did and always will - just keep one in case of emergency.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on August 25, 2014, 05:10:25 PM
My manager on my current project looked at me aghast when I told her the reason I didn't answer my phone at 5:35 the day before was because I have it programmed to turn itself off at 5:30 ...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: StufromEGDL on August 25, 2014, 05:16:43 PM
Hi Gang,

Just back from a lovely week in Scotland catching up with relatives and seeing the sights...and apart from the M6 back southbound today...which is a known quantity....all went well...

When I arrived home, I found a card from Yodel dated FOUR days ago stating that a parcel had been left in my safe place by the front door. Notwithstanding the Bank Holiday weather, there was no sign of the parcel whatsoever.

Guess that is over £30 wasted.......luckily it wasn't a high value item from our Liverpudlian retailer......

Grrrrrr!!
Stu from EGDL...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on August 25, 2014, 05:59:24 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on August 25, 2014, 05:10:25 PM
My manager on my current project looked at me aghast when I told her the reason I didn't answer my phone at 5:35 the day before was because I have it programmed to turn itself off at 5:30 ...

Manager phones you at that time! :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on August 25, 2014, 07:10:01 PM
Quote from: StufromEGDL on August 25, 2014, 05:16:43 PM
When I arrived home, I found a card from Yodel dated FOUR days ago stating that a parcel had been left in my safe place by the front door. Notwithstanding the Bank Holiday weather, there was no sign of the parcel whatsoever.

Guess that is over £30 wasted.......luckily it wasn't a high value item from our Liverpudlian retailer......

Grrrrrr!!
Stu from EGDL...

If the retailers agents fail to deliver it's the retailers problem. It's up to them to take it up with Yodel. The only thing you might need to do if they say it was put there is report the missing item to the local constabulary for a crime number.

If you really have an agreed safe place of "by the front door" then that may be another matter 8), otherwise if Yodel complain I'd use words like "grossly negligent" and if they claimed a safe place is agreed and was not then "fraud" might be usefully added to the vocabulary.

Same goes for ebay packages too - you paid for the supplier to deliver it to your address (and safely is kind of implied). Who they use and the performance of whoever they use is their problem.

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: StufromEGDL on August 25, 2014, 07:15:49 PM
Hi Alan,

I agree with you wholeheartedly......and I have no agreed safe place...that is just daft!!
Luckily, my neighbour spotted it, but only yesterday....so it sat outside my front door for 3 days......not a great advert for Yodel and a huge indicator that my house was vacant.

Bunch of cowboys in my opinion!!!

Later,
Stu from EGDL.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on August 25, 2014, 07:18:12 PM
Yep - that's why I stopped using Hattons, they kept using Yodel even when told not too, and our Yodel delivery guy was so dull he didn't notice we had a doorbell even though I'd previously caught him and pointed it out forcefully.

Seems to depend on the localtion though - I know other people who think their yodel is great
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on August 25, 2014, 09:08:43 PM
Quote from: Agrippa on August 25, 2014, 05:59:24 PM
Manager phones you at that time! :goggleeyes:
PM mate, PM ...  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on August 25, 2014, 09:47:56 PM
Thats ok then!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on August 25, 2014, 09:59:57 PM
Not to her it wasn't  :D

Still ... it could be worse ...  Lad I worked with kept getting calls up to midnight from his manager !!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Michael Hendle on August 31, 2014, 07:49:38 PM
Hi

I don't usually get angry :veryangry: but yesterday I got a letter from the bank I have been with for nearly 30 years,saying they have now decided that as I'm a pensioner,I'm not paying enough into a special Advance current account I have even though I pay £12.00 a month to use it.

They are going to close it in November and just put me into a ordinary current account,because my state pension and occupation pension doesn't cover the £1750.00 that I now need to keep it open,they have just bought in the minimum amount starting in November.

Mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on August 31, 2014, 08:26:33 PM
I'd be very tempted to reply to them & accuse them of ageism, copying in Saga, local press and Watchdog ...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Northman on August 31, 2014, 09:08:50 PM
Michael - I am still working as a financial adviser and have looked at the HSBC Advance account since your post.  I cannot see what you are paying them £12 a month for anyway and you will probably be better off without the special account as to me the costs seem to outweigh any benefits.

Suggest you look at Santander 123 and move away from HSBC - serve them right.

Many people still seem to think that Banks appreciate your loyalty - they only appreciate profit.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on August 31, 2014, 09:24:11 PM
As a pensioner, I can endorse the Santander 123 accounts as a useful arrangement.

The £2 monthly fee is easily recovered by the discounts on council tax and utility direct debits. I use the optional credit card exclusively for petrol where I get a 3% rebate on that spend. Brings the bill down a bit!

There's a calculator on the bank's website to see it it works for you.

Leave the rip-off bank as soon as you are able - Good Luck!

Dave G

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 31, 2014, 09:47:41 PM
Last I heard, the Santander 123 account required a minimum of £500 per month to be paid in, so I'd move your account over from HSBC rather than get shanghai'd :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tdm on August 31, 2014, 11:55:41 PM
Over here in the Canaries - Santander Bank is one we wouldn't touch with a bargepole.
My wife who is President of our Community and is responsible for all the Finances uses several Bank a/cs to hold the Communities money, and the only one that doesn't seem to care and is the least efficient is Santander.
I believe they get more complaints about their services than any other Bank.

Personally my wife and I use "Solbank" here as they don't charge for the use of a current a/c, and actually give us a discount on every Direct Debit payment we make, crediting our a/c each month with a percentage of the value of Direct Debit payments made.

The only condition attached to this current a/c is that you have to have a certain amount of money transferred into it each month, and my monthly Occupational Pension from Gwynedd Council in Wales that is paid directly into this a/c more than covers this.

We still maintain an English Bank a/c as well, and that is First Direct - the Internet Banking part of HSBC, and have had no problems with them either.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on September 01, 2014, 08:42:26 AM
I guess we must 'speak as we find' but I haven't had any problems in the UK.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: petercharlesfagg on September 01, 2014, 08:50:01 AM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on August 25, 2014, 07:18:12 PM
Yep - that's why I stopped using Hattons, they kept using Yodel even when told not too, and our Yodel delivery guy was so dull he didn't notice we had a doorbell even though I'd previously caught him and pointed it out forcefully.

Agree totally!  Why do they insist on hammering on the door when there is a serviceable bell push at eye level in the middle of the door! :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on September 01, 2014, 08:56:39 AM
Quote from: petercharlesfagg on September 01, 2014, 08:50:01 AM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on August 25, 2014, 07:18:12 PM
Yep - that's why I stopped using Hattons, they kept using Yodel even when told not too, and our Yodel delivery guy was so dull he didn't notice we had a doorbell even though I'd previously caught him and pointed it out forcefully.

Agree totally!  Why do they insist on hammering on the door when there is a serviceable bell push at eye level in the middle of the door! :veryangry:

Here! Here! Our local chap uses his signature/scanner gizmo as the hammer on the glass.

One day ......  :veryangry:

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 01, 2014, 10:25:19 AM
Whenever this situation arises I open the door, ring the bell myself and then just look at them. It seems to do the trick ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on September 01, 2014, 10:32:12 AM
I too have a bell push at eye level in the centre of the door and very few people miss it.  One day last week there was a loud knock on the door, then the bell was rung.  I opened the door to see my regular postman grinning and proceeded to apologise for knocking saying he was having an off day.  I replied, I have off days every day  :D

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on September 01, 2014, 11:53:42 AM
Our postie is first class!  :D .

If he can't see my car parked on the road he leaves any parcels for me with my equally brilliant next-door neighbour. Saves me a half mile walk to the sorting office to collect anything.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on September 01, 2014, 01:38:25 PM
Yeah, my postie is pretty good also. One of my neighbours tried to get
an Argos credit card in my name and put my name as care of their address
but the postman delivered the letter from Argos to me which was declining
my application ! Recently I bought a wagon on Ebeast and the idiot seller
sent it to a mixed up version of my address , but the postie met me in the
street near the PO and said I think we have a package for you.

So well done the posties!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ozzie Bill. on September 05, 2014, 06:02:54 AM
What a foul,  :censored: week. Got retrenched last Friday - knew it was coming, but the reality only hit me once I got the last pay check. Spent weekend and start of week in bed with flu, shakes and all that rubbish. Got a speeding fine in the post, $300 + 3 points (newly changed limit, so what was 55 in a 60 zone suddenly becomes 55 in a 40 zone. Go figure). Fridge packed up - $400 to repair. Got an infected cyst that then erupted so now on antibiotics, then got a puncture on way to chemists to collect script. Just a perfect flaming week, glad it's over. Here's hoping next week is marginally less bad. Sorry for vent, but sometimes need to get the SOTL. Cheers, Bill.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on September 05, 2014, 06:51:05 AM
Bill, that is a horrid week. Everything seems to come at once... like buses.

Chin up, mate. I'd be appealing that traffic infringement. You never know, they might listen. At the very least it gives you more time to pay it.  :thumbsup: :beers:

All the very best with the job issue.

George
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ozzie Bill. on September 05, 2014, 07:09:49 AM
Thanks George. Yes, I will be appealing, but not this week, like as not they'd double it the way my lucks going!! :D Might leave it til next week ;D. Cheers, Bill.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 05, 2014, 10:07:18 AM
Sorry to hear about such a bad week, Bill :(
Hope things improve on all fronts very quickly :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on September 05, 2014, 10:25:18 AM
So sorry to hear of you woes, Bill. As my pal Graham says"if it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have any luck at all" I think it fits in your case.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on September 05, 2014, 10:36:58 AM
As one of my mates says it's better to be P....d of than P....d on, but I do sympathise hope you get the speeding  fine sorted, I did when the same thing happened here in Wycombe when the opposite happened speed was 30 mph  I got done at36 mph on a Tuesday then the limit went up to 40mph on the Wednesday, a lot of people went to the local paper and because of that we got the fine cancelled. Hope that will happen for you.
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ozymandias on September 08, 2014, 11:20:27 AM
In my hurry to get my boy's bike out of the garage I removed the hairy, dusty blanket it's covered with (to stop it getting covered in overspray from painting locos) and put said hairy, dusty blanket down again.... right on top of my freshly-second-coat-glossed B12. Grrrr!!  :censored:

Now where did I put the Nitromors...?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on September 12, 2014, 08:46:32 PM
 :veryangry:   MOT. brake pads and service today etc.  £400+the dreaded VAT.
No more model expenses for me this month  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on September 13, 2014, 11:10:30 PM
Quote:veryangry:   MOT. brake pads and service today etc.  £400+the dreaded VAT.

:goggleeyes:

That's a bit steep! Is that including all 4 pads?

But hey, look at it this way, brakes are sort of important on your car and one day you may be glad you had the pads done.

Of course, that may not be of much comfort to you right now.....

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on September 13, 2014, 11:13:27 PM
Sounds about right to me if paying garage labour rates - MoT and service could top 200 quid alone, then set of pads (cheap) and another hour or so's labour (expensive) ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on September 13, 2014, 11:36:00 PM
You think you have problems :uneasy:

Picture is what they do with a D3 Discovery to change a turbo & cambelt. It's the easiest way apparently.
As to price - I think a second mortgage should cover it.
[smg id=15783]
Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on September 14, 2014, 10:04:01 AM
Bit on the pricy side?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on September 14, 2014, 01:18:33 PM
Not quite the 'body off restoration' we used to talks about!  :worried:

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on September 14, 2014, 07:54:12 PM
Quote from: Only Me on September 13, 2014, 11:22:36 PM
That cheap eh?  My car just needed front and rear brakes doing, £659 all in ... Think yourself lucky!! Plus two tyres at £450 for the pair, hence me avoiding Tings :(

Front brakes (discs+pads), two rear shocks and two tyres on the Fiesta - £280 plus some grazed knuckles :D


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on September 14, 2014, 08:54:53 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on September 14, 2014, 07:54:12 PM
plus some grazed knuckles :D
You're not supposed to beat the mechanics up, remember ?   :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mr bachmann on September 15, 2014, 02:13:05 PM
for once I'm thankful I own a Preston built masterpiece  ....

The Bond Minicar
"Often imitated but never surpassed"


Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ngauger on September 15, 2014, 03:41:24 PM
Better get the wiper blades done while their at it ;-)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on September 16, 2014, 06:42:34 AM
Moving House

Late June 2014
We sell our place in 3 days.
A week later buyer changes his mind.

July
Ten days later we sell our house again.
Buyer's lawyers asks stupid questions
Stupid questions answered.

Find new house and do the deal.
More stupid questions from our buyer's lawyer.
Answer more stupid questions.

August
New home seller wants to fix moving date
That's fine with us.
Get movers quotes and suggest September date.
That's fine with them – date reserved.

Buyer's lawyers asks stupid questions.
Buyer going out of country for 3 weeks.
We're getting angry now.
Chase lawyers.

September 2014
Miss going to TINGS, too busy packing.
Get lawyers to exchange.
Movers can't hold reserved date any longer.
Revised date offered.

New home seller booked original date pre-contract and now upset.
We can't book movers as seller not come back with date.


I want me mum!  :'(

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on September 16, 2014, 08:59:20 AM
That's it is what is great in buying properties here in Spain, you negotiate and agree a price, lawyer does a quick check on legal state of house (Note Simple), pay a 10% non refundable deposit (except it exceptional circumstances) and agree a date.  On the agreed date, all parties go to the Solicitors office, money/cheques are exchange and keys handed over, job done.

No such things as chains here, if you sell before you buy, you rent somewhere short term until your purchase goes through.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on September 16, 2014, 10:22:56 AM
My lad is moving out some time in my life but he is frustrated at moving.

September 2013 he and his girl friend find a house they like and speak to the owners about buying the house then goes into the hands of solicitors.

October 2013 the owners decide the house they were moving to was not for them.

November they told my lad they have found another property but once again change there minds, and say it will be after the new year before they look for another property.

March they tell my son they have found a property and it is ok for them to do all there searches etc.

June the searches begin and told it will take approx 12 weeks before they get a date to move in.

September they are still waiting to move in and have just found out that the property the house owners are moving into is being held up by the solicitors of the other owners.

Not only my lad is pulling his hair out but I am to, My house is a mess it looks like a bomb has hit it with all his belongings in boxes ready for the move, why oh why is it so hard to buy a house the red tape seems to be very lengthy.

Oh by the way I need him out of the house as his room is my new Model Railway room.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on September 16, 2014, 11:03:45 AM
Lucky you, Caz!

Sounds like Spain work a similar routine to that in Scotland although I've heard horror stories regarding Spanish 'off plan' sales.

Apart from anything else, it's cost my other half about £4k in lost wages.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tdm on September 16, 2014, 11:43:21 AM
When we saw the Apartment we wanted to buy to live in here in Tenerife it was on a Monday.
On Thursday of that same week it was ours and we could move in immediately if we wanted.

Similar situation with the other apartments we now own on our complex, although on a couple of them there was some negotiation over the price beforehand, but once the price was finally agreed everything went through very quick.

I remember though when we emigrated it took a long time to complete the sale of the house we were leaving, and we were let down by potential buyers more than once.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Wild on September 26, 2014, 11:52:54 PM
Quote from: Bob Tidbury on September 05, 2014, 10:36:58 AM
I got done at36 mph Bob

I knew I should never have bought the beast. Got done doing 36 in a 30 limit while even towing the caravan !!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Wild on September 27, 2014, 12:02:58 AM
And another thing - perhaps you American afficianados can explain.

Just back from crossing Coast to Coast in the USA via Amtrak.

New York to Washington - arrive 3 hours late.
Washington to Chicago   - arrive 2 hours late.
Chicago to Denver         - arrive 3 hours late.
Flagstaff to Los Angeles - depart 4 hours late - the only upside of this was that the scheduled time was 10:00 pm, and by the time it got to 2:00 am the whole group was well and truly smashed and didn't really care whether the train even arrived.

Anyway, how can such a lousy scheduling system work at all. And it was nowhere as fast as an Intercity 125. Astonished!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on September 27, 2014, 12:54:09 AM
Probably some pesky injuns on the tracks...................
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OwL on September 27, 2014, 01:45:18 AM
Amtrak would have got away with it if it weren't for those pesky kids.............
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on September 27, 2014, 09:30:41 AM
Quote from: Agrippa on September 27, 2014, 12:54:09 AM
Probably some pesky injuns on the tracks...................

Ooh no no no, can't say that nowadays :no:

It's 'Native Americans'  ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on September 27, 2014, 12:54:25 PM
Quote from: Bob Wild on September 27, 2014, 12:02:58 AM
And another thing - perhaps you American afficianados can explain.

Just back from crossing Coast to Coast in the USA via Amtrak.

New York to Washington - arrive 3 hours late.
Washington to Chicago   - arrive 2 hours late.
Chicago to Denver         - arrive 3 hours late.
Flagstaff to Los Angeles - depart 4 hours late - the only upside of this was that the scheduled time was 10:00 pm, and by the time it got to 2:00 am the whole group was well and truly smashed and didn't really care whether the train even arrived.

Anyway, how can such a lousy scheduling system work at all. And it was nowhere as fast as an Intercity 125. Astonished!!

Sounds like a GRJ holiday. When we did that several years ago, our Tour Manager managed to leave his briefcase with all the money, tickets etc in the hotel in New York. A bridge fire somewhere made our train from Flagstaff 8 hours late.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on September 27, 2014, 01:50:51 PM
Quote from: OwL on September 27, 2014, 01:45:18 AM
Amtrak would have got away with it if it weren't for those pesky kids.............

Ruh-Roh!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on September 27, 2014, 03:44:45 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on September 27, 2014, 09:30:41 AM
oh no no no, can't say that nowadays :no:

It's 'Native Americans'  ;)

Paul

The hell I can't......................
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Wild on September 27, 2014, 10:54:09 PM
Quote from: Malc on September 27, 2014, 12:54:25 PM

Sounds like a GRJ holiday. When we did that several years ago, our Tour Manager managed to leave his briefcase with all the money, tickets etc in the hotel in New York. A bridge fire somewhere made our train from Flagstaff 8 hours late.

Yes, it was GRJ - but without those horrible misfortunes that you had. All in all, it was a great trip, but I've now seen enough of America to last me for several years. Mrs W was happy too, as we managed to see Andy Murray at the US Open (but that's another story).

Perhaps the most fascinating was the sight of all those freight trains every few minutes. Several engines towing upwards of a hundred wagons each stacked two high with forty foot containers.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on September 27, 2014, 11:02:34 PM
I actually counted the wagons on one in Canada - 208 bolster size, some with 2 containers stacked on and 3 locos in front, one in the middle and one at the end.not going fast, took about 10 mins to go past while we waited in a siding.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on September 28, 2014, 02:05:56 AM
You don't know frustration until you've sat at a grade crossing for 10 minutes waiting for a 100+ wagon train to pass and just when you see the end of it and think you're going to get moving again, one comes from the opposite direction...   :censored: >:(  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: grumbeast on September 28, 2014, 07:18:58 AM
Quote from: Bob Wild on September 27, 2014, 12:02:58 AM
And another thing - perhaps you American afficianados can explain.

Just back from crossing Coast to Coast in the USA via Amtrak.

New York to Washington - arrive 3 hours late.
Washington to Chicago   - arrive 2 hours late.
Chicago to Denver         - arrive 3 hours late.
Flagstaff to Los Angeles - depart 4 hours late - the only upside of this was that the scheduled time was 10:00 pm, and by the time it got to 2:00 am the whole group was well and truly smashed and didn't really care whether the train even arrived.

Anyway, how can such a lousy scheduling system work at all. And it was nowhere as fast as an Intercity 125. Astonished!!

Pshaw!

I remember taking the train from Vancouver to Halifax just after Christmas with Via rail a few years ago, we were caught behind several storm fronts and at one point were 24 hours late.. The catering staff were great, we ran out of food and every time we stopped they'd rush over to the local store and buy everything.  Everyone was fed, but it was like a lottery as to what you get.  To be honest the train had a real spirit of adventure so I'm not sure it qualifies as an angry thread message!

Graham
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on September 28, 2014, 08:38:21 PM
Not so much angry (apart from the overall cost  :veryangry:), but knackered ...

Spent one day each these past 3 week-ends on the flat part of the garage roof, putting on a coating of a bituminous paint / sealer ... two Sundays (as I had other things on the Saturdays) and yesterday ... finally done with a half-tin (say 2 litres) left - so that's 5 tins @ almost £40 a pop ...  Here's hoping I don't get a leak this Winter else I'm be substantially  :censored: off !!!

And spent today sanding down wood boards along the edge of the garage roof, putting on Sandtex One Coat - and finding out after (when I read the small print, trying to see why it was crap) that despite it saying "no undercoat" on the front - it needs an undercoat on bare wood  :veryangry:  Job for next week  :'(

So instead, one of the stretches on the house got sanded, damage found, bad wood removed & the rest around it having hardener applied & left to dry a few hours (need more tins of that now  >:(), top-coated work done earlier on some of the downstairs windows, lots of filler applied once the wood with the hardener had hardened off (with 20 min breaks between to allow a double application to set), and then sanded smooth-ish & undercoated with Sandtex ...  Still a fair bit of work to do before Winter gets in  :help:

Mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ozymandias on September 29, 2014, 09:49:29 AM
Quote from: grumbeast on September 28, 2014, 07:18:58 AM
Quote from: Bob Wild on September 27, 2014, 12:02:58 AM
And another thing - perhaps you American afficianados can explain.

Just back from crossing Coast to Coast in the USA via Amtrak.

New York to Washington - arrive 3 hours late.
Washington to Chicago   - arrive 2 hours late.
Chicago to Denver         - arrive 3 hours late.
Flagstaff to Los Angeles - depart 4 hours late - the only upside of this was that the scheduled time was 10:00 pm, and by the time it got to 2:00 am the whole group was well and truly smashed and didn't really care whether the train even arrived.

Anyway, how can such a lousy scheduling system work at all. And it was nowhere as fast as an Intercity 125. Astonished!!

Pshaw!

I remember taking the train from Vancouver to Halifax just after Christmas with Via rail a few years ago, we were caught behind several storm fronts and at one point were 24 hours late.. The catering staff were great, we ran out of food and every time we stopped they'd rush over to the local store and buy everything.  Everyone was fed, but it was like a lottery as to what you get.  To be honest the train had a real spirit of adventure so I'm not sure it qualifies as an angry thread message!

Graham

Grumbeast, I thoroughly approve of your use of the word "Pshaw!". It is a wonderful retort and I intend to use it more in conversation. Thank you. :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Wild on September 29, 2014, 10:44:15 AM
Quote from: Ozymandias on September 29, 2014, 09:49:29 AM
Grumbeast, I thoroughly approve of your use of the word "Pshaw!". It is a wonderful retort and I intend to use it more in conversation. Thank you. :)

and who would have thought that this little forum could educate one in the use of the English language!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on September 29, 2014, 02:20:42 PM

[/quote]

Pshaw!


[/quote]

Grumbeast, I thoroughly approve of your use of the word "Pshaw!". It is a wonderful retort and I intend to use it more in conversation. Thank you. :)
[/quote]

Just read this post to Mrs "H" she insists that the word must be used in conjunction with GADZOOKS!!

Jerry
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ozymandias on September 29, 2014, 02:39:56 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on September 29, 2014, 02:20:42 PM


Pshaw!


[/quote]

Grumbeast, I thoroughly approve of your use of the word "Pshaw!". It is a wonderful retort and I intend to use it more in conversation. Thank you. :)
[/quote]

Just read this post to Mrs "H" she insists that the word must be used in conjunction with GADZOOKS!!

Jerry
[/quote]

We'll be onto "Zounds!" and "Odds-boddikins!" before the day is out... ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on September 29, 2014, 02:48:23 PM
Or even piffle, balderdash, blackguard and mountebank.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GeeBee on September 29, 2014, 03:45:05 PM
Washing machine door seal is worn out, just been told cost to replace it £189  :veryangry:
just bought bran new washing machine £159 where's the sense in replacing seal when you can replace machine with a better energy rating for £30 less
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on September 29, 2014, 04:27:27 PM
Quote from: Agrippa on September 29, 2014, 02:48:23 PM
Or even piffle, balderdash, blackguard and mountebank.


If we're getting personal, how about 'Scurvy Knave!'? .

Our next-door neighbour's cat's called Piffle.

Funny old world, innit?  :wave:

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on October 03, 2014, 08:29:33 AM
I can now put photos into Albums on the Forum ,don't know how you link to posts yet that I Wil have to learn when someone shows me.
What's made me Angry is that when I upgraded to Ios8 on my IPad .  Apple screwed up and instead of making things easier to manage photos I couldn't,  just kept getting error 500 I lost my password and couldn't remember  the security questions ,MY FAULT tried on line several times Apple said Email sent, but the Idiots sent it to my ICloud account which I couldn't access because Ipad was locked for security reasons phoned the idiots they sent Email to my Orange account but we were out so when we read it the time limit which they never mentioned had expired ,Phoned again this time the guy was very helpful very sorry they cocked up verified my security questions told me the new Email would be 24 hrs and also told me it was time sensitive BUT WHY DID THEY SEND THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE TO AN ACCOUNT THAT WAS LOCKED .?????
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on October 03, 2014, 08:34:09 AM
Simple answer? Because they are Apple ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on October 03, 2014, 09:19:57 AM
Because you were using the password reset functionality the wrong way around  :angel:

Did you try holding the mouse upside down in your left hand while clicking the button with your thumb ?  That might have sent it to the right one  ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on October 03, 2014, 11:51:12 AM
I think the mouse must have gone because the mouse hole on my IPad has disappeared I can't see it anywhere HA Ha, and I couldn't have been using the resett upside down the auto rotate was still working Ho Ho !
Thanks  for cheering me up though.I'm not angry now so better go to happy thread and bore someone there.
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on October 03, 2014, 11:54:55 AM
And now for something completely different:-
I keep hearing mention on the wireless of E-bowlers, Don't those idiots in Brussels give us enough grief without interfering with our national sport?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on October 03, 2014, 01:39:20 PM
Quote from: steve836 on October 03, 2014, 11:54:55 AM
And now for something completely different:-
I keep hearing mention on the wireless of E-bowlers, Don't those idiots in Brussels give us enough grief without interfering with our national sport?

Naughty!  :no:  ;)

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 03, 2014, 03:43:24 PM
I thought it was about virtual headgear for city gents :doh: :dunce:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ozymandias on October 03, 2014, 03:47:04 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 03, 2014, 03:43:24 PM
I thought it was about virtual headgear for city gents :doh: :dunce:

You beat me to that one, Nobby! ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 03, 2014, 04:39:05 PM
just treated SWMBO to a new cooker, then found out it means new saucepans / frying pans etc as it has inductive hobs  >:(

old ones won't work with it.

must learn to read the small print  :dunce:

still, it does mean NO danger that the grandsons could turn it on and burn themselves, apparently if no pan on the hob, it doesn't heat up even if switched on  :thumbsup:

ain't tek tec progress great  :no:

still, many brownie points scored, so the parcels from Liverpool should be safe from sniping for a while. :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 05, 2014, 09:50:08 PM
Having watched Dr Who on iPlayer via my laptop plugged into the telly, the dam thing now refuses to acknowledge the existence of ANY TV channels.

The fact that the TV upstairs has also lost them all seems to suggest to me that the booster fitted when we moved in has gone kput.

:veryangry:

Will have to call the Aerial Man again.

Blast

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on October 06, 2014, 10:09:35 PM
Our SKY BOX has decided to lose all signals overnight AGAIN... As we do not actually have SKY UK (legally) being the dreaded ex pats and our supplier in Italy would be......SKY!!!!!! I am  :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

Mrs "H" gets up (due to the chemo etc) at ungodly hours of the morning and switches on TV. Since Saturday A.M the "no signal" message has greeted her.  This then involves yours truly to drag himself out of bed and perform (I would be so lucky) a system reset.  HOW I HATE TECHNOLOGY...

Having explained tonight that the HDMI input to the TV cannot effect the sky signal I have unplugged all the cables that are nothing to do with the sat input.  Guess I will be awake early in the morning then   :whiteflag:

Jerry
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on October 07, 2014, 08:58:49 AM
Ain't technology wonderful? :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on October 07, 2014, 03:00:43 PM
Even worse today ! No signal so appeased Mrs"H" by chopping / sawing down the acacia  trees that have sprouted over the summer. Now one step closer to heart failure the TV shows..... No satellite signal.....give up. Now where did I put that wind up gramophone ?
....

Oh this was after having spent 4 + hours in the local Hospital with Mrs "H" as they decided yesterday that the chemo had caused such severe weight loss mouth ulcers etc that they have postponed treatment for a week while she goes in every day for extensive re-hydration.

:veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 07, 2014, 04:52:22 PM
Oh.....bother, fiddlesticks, drat and other such foul language, Jerry.
Hope things improve soon. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on October 07, 2014, 05:06:35 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 07, 2014, 04:52:22 PM
Oh.....bother, fiddlesticks, drat and other such foul language, Jerry.
Hope things improve soon. :thumbsup:

Hear, hear!

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on October 07, 2014, 06:45:13 PM
Quote from: daveg on October 07, 2014, 05:06:35 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 07, 2014, 04:52:22 PM
Oh.....bother, fiddlesticks, drat and other such foul language, Jerry.
Hope things improve soon. :thumbsup:

Hear, hear!

Dave G

Me too. I especially hope things go well for Mrs. H
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on October 08, 2014, 09:30:32 AM
Please add my thoughts to the above posts
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on October 08, 2014, 09:35:31 AM
All the best to your wife, and to you as well.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on October 08, 2014, 11:16:41 AM
Just been to the local newsagent/post office and went to look at the mags. Railway Modeler has put the mag. in a plastic bag. I stopped buying another model mag when they did it. I am on a pension so always browse first to see if there is anything worth forking out for or whether to wait another month. Looks like R.M. have just lost another customer!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on October 08, 2014, 11:20:22 AM
FYI Steve, this months Railway Modeller features Banbury as the layout of the month, the Ridgacre Branch and also Burghead Harbour as a retrospective, all in N. Plus some 009 stuff.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Griffo on October 08, 2014, 01:59:09 PM
Quote from: steve836 on October 08, 2014, 11:16:41 AM
I am on a pension so always browse first to see if there is anything worth forking out for or whether to wait another month. Looks like R.M. have just lost another customer!

Hi Steve

If it helps, mremag.com usually has a review of the monthly magazines with an overview of the contents. For this months Railway Modeller see

http://www.mremag.com/news/article/railway-modeller--october-2014/19361 (http://www.mremag.com/news/article/railway-modeller--october-2014/19361)

Any help?

Steve
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mr bachmann on October 08, 2014, 02:57:23 PM
Quote from: steve836 on October 08, 2014, 11:16:41 AM
Just been to the local newsagent/post office and went to look at the mags. Railway Modeler has put the mag. in a plastic bag. I stopped buying another model mag when they did it. I am on a pension so always browse first to see if there is anything worth forking out for or whether to wait another month. Looks like R.M. have just lost another customer!

hang in mate , I think the plastic bags usually mean there's a free gift , I think its a booklet , any way pop down to Redcar Smiff's those concerned are known to 'rip'( :veryangry:) open the packaging  :censored: 


alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DesertHound on October 08, 2014, 03:51:51 PM
I frequent a certain bookshop (and one I very much liked too) that started doing that with books ... now that was daft!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on October 08, 2014, 05:01:14 PM
They probably see people browsing and think they would read the whole thing rather than buy it. As if one could or would! A person needs to browse mags. and books to see if its worth shelling out hard earned cash. Hopefully someone from the model press will see this and have second thoughts. I doubt your bookshop owner will though.I agree with mr bachmann that there is normally a freeby in when R.M. bags their mag. but this does not appear to be the case this month.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bry on October 09, 2014, 11:02:46 AM
Light bulbs. Bl***y light bulbs. Have you tried buying a blimin' light bulb lately? Gone are the days when you just had to choose 40watt, 60watt or 100watt. Oh no, it ain't that simple anymore. You have to choose pearl or clear, round or candle or curly, energy saving, led or halogen. Large bayonet, small bayonet, large screw or small screw. And the price?!! Don't get me started on the price.......... >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on October 09, 2014, 11:07:43 AM
Why, what's the price ?  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ozymandias on October 09, 2014, 11:08:59 AM
Quote from: Bry on October 09, 2014, 11:02:46 AM
Light bulbs. Bl***y light bulbs. Have you tried buying a blimin' light bulb lately? Gone are the days when you just had to choose 40watt, 60watt or 100watt. Oh no, it ain't that simple anymore. You have to choose pearl or clear, round or candle or curly, energy saving, led or halogen. Large bayonet, small bayonet, large screw or small screw. And the price?!! Don't get me started on the price.......... >:(

I feel your pain, Bry. I had to buy a replacement bulb for the dining room last weekend - looking at the vast array on offer in Homebase (other DIY stores are available) I felt like I needed a team of Sherpas, a G&T and a lie-down before I even started looking.... ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bry on October 09, 2014, 11:18:12 AM
Quote from: MikeDunn on October 09, 2014, 11:07:43 AM
Why, what's the price ?  >:D >:D >:D

:veryangry: I said...don't..... :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on October 09, 2014, 11:27:37 AM
Oh go on!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ozymandias on October 09, 2014, 11:28:03 AM
Quote from: Bry on October 09, 2014, 11:18:12 AM
Quote from: MikeDunn on October 09, 2014, 11:07:43 AM
Why, what's the price ?  >:D >:D >:D

:veryangry: I said...don't..... :censored:

And as for the pri- Oops, sorry Bry...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on October 09, 2014, 11:32:02 AM
Do you know you can't get 100watt bulbs any more. The E.U. have decreed it thus! So that's one choice less.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bry on October 09, 2014, 12:04:02 PM
Quote from: steve836 on October 09, 2014, 11:32:02 AM
Do you know you can't get 100watt bulbs any more. The E.U. have decreed it thus! So that's one choice less.

Bl*#*y EU........ :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on October 09, 2014, 12:07:38 PM
Quote from: steve836 on October 09, 2014, 11:32:02 AM
Do you know you can't get 100watt bulbs any more. The E.U. have decreed it thus! So that's one choice less.

You can, just not where you're looking ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on October 09, 2014, 12:33:12 PM
There's a £ shop near me sells them, sometimes they have 250 watt bulbs as well.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on October 09, 2014, 01:00:34 PM
what about the price :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: FeelixTC on October 09, 2014, 01:04:20 PM
Quote from: Bry on October 09, 2014, 12:04:02 PM
Quote from: steve836 on October 09, 2014, 11:32:02 AM
Do you know you can't get 100watt bulbs any more. The E.U. have decreed it thus! So that's one choice less.

Bl*#*y EU........ :veryangry:

I tried to buy a 150w bulb in my local hardware store, "Can't sell them anymore" I was told, "EU banned them to help with emmissions etc".................as he stood by a gas patio heater.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ozzie Bill. on October 09, 2014, 01:05:20 PM
And what about the Romans, what have they ever done for us, eh?
seriously, with me it is loaves of bread. White, brown, sliced or unsliced is all it used to be. Now we have high tops, low tops, tins, rolls, rounds, artisan (whatever the heck that means) and about 30 different "grain" mixes for each one. Pah I say, Pah. Cheers, Bill.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: port perran on October 09, 2014, 01:13:01 PM
I agree, in the super market there are so many loaves to choose from.
And, by the way, when you buy hard rolls they quickly go soft but when soft bread ages it goes hard !
I'm sure there's a very good reason for that but who knows !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on October 09, 2014, 04:21:07 PM
Quote from: Bry on October 09, 2014, 11:02:46 AM
Light bulbs. Bl***y light bulbs. Have you tried buying a blimin' light bulb lately? Gone are the days when you just had to choose 40watt, 60watt or 100watt. Oh no, it ain't that simple anymore. You have to choose pearl or clear, round or candle or curly, energy saving, led or halogen. Large bayonet, small bayonet, large screw or small screw. And the price?!! Don't get me started on the price.......... >:(

Try ebay, that's where I get mine from - cheap as well, even including carriage :thumbsup:

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mark100 on October 09, 2014, 05:28:08 PM
Quote from: Bry on October 09, 2014, 11:02:46 AM
Light bulbs. Bl***y light bulbs. Have you tried buying a blimin' light bulb lately? Gone are the days when you just had to choose 40watt, 60watt or 100watt. Oh no, it ain't that simple anymore. You have to choose pearl or clear, round or candle or curly, energy saving, led or halogen. Large bayonet, small bayonet, large screw or small screw. And the price?!! Don't get me started on the price.......... >:(
We had the same problem earlier in Pets at home today trying to find a Night Blue bulb to put over some aquariums at night. Ebay that's my answer! Blue L.E.D's in a chain for £1.99p with an adapter and I will make my own custom shade to fit them now that I am now finally trained with Solid works.

Mark
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on October 09, 2014, 06:52:21 PM
Last time I installed a new bulb it took about 6 months to flower, never again!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on October 09, 2014, 09:59:19 PM
Quote from: Oldun on October 09, 2014, 04:21:07 PM
Quote from: Bry on October 09, 2014, 11:02:46 AM
Light bulbs. Bl***y light bulbs. Have you tried buying a blimin' light bulb lately? Gone are the days when you just had to choose 40watt, 60watt or 100watt. Oh no, it ain't that simple anymore. You have to choose pearl or clear, round or candle or curly, energy saving, led or halogen. Large bayonet, small bayonet, large screw or small screw. And the price?!! Don't get me started on the price.......... >:(

Try ebay, that's where I get mine from - cheap as well, even including carriage :thumbsup:

Roger

www.lamps2udirect.co.uk (http://www.lamps2udirect.co.uk) :thumbsup:

Quote from: ozzie Bill. on October 09, 2014, 01:05:20 PM
. . . artisan (whatever the heck that means)

It means they put a couple of slits in the top, double the price, and se if anyone is stupid enough to buy it :D


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on October 09, 2014, 11:24:44 PM
Quote from: Oldun on October 09, 2014, 04:21:07 PM
Quote from: Bry on October 09, 2014, 11:02:46 AM
Light bulbs. Bl***y light bulbs. Have you tried buying a blimin' light bulb lately? Gone are the days when you just had to choose 40watt, 60watt or 100watt. Oh no, it ain't that simple anymore. You have to choose pearl or clear, round or candle or curly, energy saving, led or halogen. Large bayonet, small bayonet, large screw or small screw. And the price?!! Don't get me started on the price.......... >:(

Try ebay, that's where I get mine from - cheap as well, even including carriage :thumbsup:

Roger

You get a free carriage with your bulbs!?  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on October 09, 2014, 11:43:45 PM
Quote from: railsquid on October 09, 2014, 11:24:44 PM
Quote from: Oldun on October 09, 2014, 04:21:07 PM
Quote from: Bry on October 09, 2014, 11:02:46 AM
Light bulbs. Bl***y light bulbs. Have you tried buying a blimin' light bulb lately? Gone are the days when you just had to choose 40watt, 60watt or 100watt. Oh no, it ain't that simple anymore. You have to choose pearl or clear, round or candle or curly, energy saving, led or halogen. Large bayonet, small bayonet, large screw or small screw. And the price?!! Don't get me started on the price.......... >:(

Try ebay, that's where I get mine from - cheap as well, even including carriage :thumbsup:

Roger

You get a free carriage with your bulbs!?  :D

Yeh, Docklands Light Railway  :laugh3: :laugh3:

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 10, 2014, 02:37:24 PM
Quote from: FeelixTC on October 09, 2014, 01:04:20 PM
Quote from: Bry on October 09, 2014, 12:04:02 PM
Quote from: steve836 on October 09, 2014, 11:32:02 AM
Do you know you can't get 100watt bulbs any more. The E.U. have decreed it thus! So that's one choice less.

Bl*#*y EU........ :veryangry:

I tried to buy a 150w bulb in my local hardware store, "Can't sell them anymore" I was told, "EU banned them to help with emmissions etc".................as he stood by a gas patio heater.

You can't get 150W old style bulbs any more. You can get 150W energy efficient bulbs, just that you probably don't want one unless you are trying to light St Pauls.

There are 35W/45W/65W energy efficient bubs which are the equivalent of up to about 350W for old bulbs, and available as daylight bulbs.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 10, 2014, 02:43:32 PM
Meanwhile the new railway room project continues to get deferred

The damp proofing in the cellar is waiting for the council to decide if it needs listed building consent. The garage is waiting the results of the asbestos lab test to identify exactly how the stuff has to be removed, all the planning and listed building applications are waiting on the asbestos removal, and a slight distraction when the neighbour said that the gardener thought the shared wall was in "poor condition". Looked ok our side, but their side was about to depart for the ground and brain someone.

Bleargh

Did at least manage to survive the downpours without any water coming in so hopefully the roof fixing has been a success, and finally have the floor fixed. That was fun too. You can't buy floorboards that thickness and width any more. Fortunately we have a good carpenter.

Now to get the godawful dimmer lights removed so I can put some proper bulbs in and actually *see* the house in the evening.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on October 10, 2014, 03:03:20 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on October 10, 2014, 02:43:32 PM


Now to get the godawful dimmer lights removed so I can put some proper bulbs in and actually *see* the house in the evening.

You'll have to ask Bry about that! :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on October 10, 2014, 03:58:18 PM
Thought you'd been a bit quiet Alan, hope you get everything sorted and back on track with Snow Hill (no pun intended)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on October 10, 2014, 04:27:45 PM
Alan, 

The joys of old houses eh!!!

As for "proper bulbs" how long before we forget what it was like to enter a room, flick a switch and heh presto LIGHT!!!

Nowadays flick switch and wait for the glow worms to wake up.

Jerry
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on October 10, 2014, 04:46:31 PM
Or just use incandescent bulbs.... ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 11, 2014, 01:49:23 PM
put a best offer in on an item on evilbay, 48hrs later and it's expired. >:(

nothing from the seller to say no thanks, just silence  :veryangry:

it really annoys me when people can be  :censored: to even acknowledge a PM or e-mail.

rant over
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on October 11, 2014, 02:56:57 PM
I have just opened my order from a large online retailer.  It was supposed to be the 3 curved topped Autoballasters (JJA) Non-Generator, but when I opened up the 3rd one it was a Generator. :doh:  Ruined the video I was going to make of the 15 wagons going along my track.

I've messaged them, and hopefully they still have it in their warehouse.  They are hard to get hold of, so this was a rare chance to get the 3 that I needed. :-\


Quote from: class37025 on October 11, 2014, 01:49:23 PM
put a best offer in on an item on evilbay, 48hrs later and it's expired. >:(

nothing from the seller to say no thanks, just silence  :veryangry:

it really annoys me when people can be  :censored: to even acknowledge a PM or e-mail.

rant over

I must agree, a seller should have to respond to an offer.  It's very rude, and I always put in a cheeky low offer in first before a bigger one.  Usually gets a large amount off of the bill!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on October 14, 2014, 04:17:53 PM
Ann phoned up today for a follow up appointment with the GP that she has started to get on well with even though they have only had 2 appointments and spoken on the phone twice. Today it turns out that she was only a locum and although she asked to see Ann again next week she has left. Just when she had started to gain Anns confidence  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on October 14, 2014, 04:41:34 PM
Sorry to hear Ann isn't well--Hope its not too serious.
Best wishes Steve
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ozymandias on October 14, 2014, 05:08:55 PM
Quote from: jonclox on October 14, 2014, 04:17:53 PM
Ann phoned up today for a follow up appointment with the GP that she has started to get on well with even though they have only had 2 appointments and spoken on the phone twice. Today it turns out that she was only a locum and although she asked to see Ann again next week she has left. Just when she had started to gain Anns confidence  :veryangry:

Sorry to hear this - very infuriating. :(  I hope Ann's health recovers and the NHS's service improves!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on October 14, 2014, 08:58:27 PM
Quote from: Ozymandias on October 14, 2014, 05:08:55 PM
Quote from: jonclox on October 14, 2014, 04:17:53 PM
Ann phoned up today for a follow up appointment with the GP that she has started to get on well with even though they have only had 2 appointments and spoken on the phone twice. Today it turns out that she was only a locum and although she asked to see Ann again next week she has left. Just when she had started to gain Anns confidence  :veryangry:

Sorry to hear this - very infuriating. :(  I hope Ann's health recovers and the NHS's service improves!

Nothing to add but wish Ann and your self all the best.   Jerry
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 14, 2014, 10:03:37 PM
21 years ago it was a locum who finally realised why my right hip/knee was so painful. All the other doctors I had/have subsequently seen have just been quacks with no clue. As you know it was only this year I had a hip replacement 21 years after the correct diagnosis.
Whilst I appreciate they won't do such operations if they consider you too young at least the guy got it right.
I'm completely sympathetic with Ann's dilemma and hope things improve, Jon.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on October 15, 2014, 12:44:46 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 14, 2014, 10:03:37 PM
21 years ago it was a locum who finally realised why my right hip/knee was so painful. All the other doctors I had/have subsequently seen have just been quacks with no clue. As you know it was only this year I had a hip replacement 21 years after the correct diagnosis.
Whilst I appreciate they won't do such operations if they consider you too young at least the guy got it right.
I'm completely sympathetic with Ann's dilemma and hope things improve, Jon.
Thanks but its thrown her back to just the wrong side  of day 1 again  :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on October 15, 2014, 01:23:33 PM
Disappointed for you both.

Here's wishing things back to at least where Ann was before her favourite doc went away.

Take care and as easy as you can.

Dave G

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 15, 2014, 08:09:50 PM
Well, the home-ownership honeymoon is over.

We have a leaky roof.  :(

Don't think its really bad, but its just a bit scary that I can't just call the landlord and say "deal with it".

Not that I am sure I will pursue it (best get a quote or two first), but does anybody know if I have a comeback against the fact we had a (and paid for) a full house survey before we bought?

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on October 15, 2014, 08:24:58 PM
Sorry about your discovery Skyline.

Having recently paid for, but yet to move in to, a house that's had what is called a Full Building Survey, I would be right back on to the surveyor if he/she hadn't picked the problem up.

Best to reread the report to make sure it isn't covered in an obscure part or a proviso due to:
'no visible evidence' of damp/leak/whatever
or
'unable to gain access to the area' of the problem at the time.

They're the only reasons I can think of but others here may know better.

Hopefully you can resolve the problem without too much pain and cost.

Good luck!

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 15, 2014, 08:59:34 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on October 15, 2014, 08:09:50 PM
Not that I am sure I will pursue it (best get a quote or two first), but does anybody know if I have a comeback against the fact we had a (and paid for) a full house survey before we bought?

Skyline2uk

It will depend whether it should have been seen. So for example if there was a dirty great stain on the ceiling before you might have an argument.

I would prioritize getting it fixed. Cleaning up after a bad roof leak is not fun so the sooner it's not a leak the better.


I have a friend who now always takes his friendly builder with him not a surveyor. A surveyor only tells him what might be wrong, possibly, if you have an extra survey done to check, the builder om the other hand tells him what can be done and how much it'll cost 8)

Alan

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on October 16, 2014, 08:56:22 PM
I know it's been discussed many times before but why do Hattons insist on using Yodel. Not for the first time I specified Royal Mail but they've gone and used Yodel. Yodel lost my Blue Pullman for a couple of days before a Mk2 Corsa driving hoodie literally chucked it on my doorstep at around 8 at night. I chose RM 2 day tracked as we are in on Saturday to receive it. Having used Yodel 24 hour it means that as long as Yodel don't lose it it will be dumped in full view on my doorstep tomorrow. Why give you the option of carrier if they take no notice. I'm sure Yodel is fine in many areas but around here it is atrocious.
Gareth
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on October 16, 2014, 09:25:47 PM
I think you'll find Yodel delivered domestic parcels for DHL my daughter had a parcel delivered to our house because she lost two so called Yodel deliveries , when it arrived it was DHL and the driver said that they were stopping Yodel and delivering themselves again ,NOT sure if that's true but that's what thier driver told me AND I had to sign for it .Yodel  just dumped one on the doorstep and drove of a few weeks ago although when my daughter tracked it it had a scribbled signature as received so it's not just Hattons but they have been told of the problem by other Forum members so why still use Yodel they are :censored: :censored:
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DesertHound on October 16, 2014, 09:32:18 PM
Sorry Gareth, I cannot answer your question directly, but do Hattons give you a choice of courier when delivering? I know they wouldn't accept FedEx when I asked them.

Simple answer is buy from someone that meets your specific requirements. It's your hard earned money you are spending and sellers should be doing their utmost to serve YOU. If you're having items dropped on the doorstep or delivered on days when you are not around, take your custom elsewhere.

I think with the rise of internet shopping, for me at least, delivery options are a big influence on where I shop. If I receive friendly and co-operative service then I'm much more likely to be a repeat customer.

Just my two penny's worth. Power to the consumer is what I say! Sorry I couldn't answer the question, but don't be afraid to vote with your wallet.

I accept, of course, that for most occasions, Royal Mail is good enough.

Dan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on October 16, 2014, 09:47:33 PM
To give Hattons their due they replied within an hour to my complaint email replying just after 9pm. The trouble is there reply is next to useless.

'If you do not wish us to use Yodel or any other service than the option you have selected, please either mention this in the special instructions section on the website, or if you call the number below we can also note it at this end.'

What is the point of giving you options to select from if they will ignore it unless you use the special instruction box or ring them?

On the face of it they are trying to offer a good service as they state that they use Yodel after RM has made its collection for a quicker delivery but experience tells me otherwise. Also I didn't want a next day service as I won't be here.
We'll wait and see what happens.
Gareth
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DesertHound on October 17, 2014, 07:54:01 AM
Sounds like "cut and paste" to me Gareth. Well at least you got a reply offering you the option to request a different shipper. I just got a refusal e-mail.

Perhaps it's just a consequence of becoming "too big" and this can happen to any business unless they keep their hands firmly on the tiller wheel. The more customers you have, the harder it becomes to give them that individual / personalized service.

Dan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 17, 2014, 12:17:02 PM
I complained several times and got fobbed off. I cancelled all my pre-orders and moved to Rails of Sheffield. Hatttons have IMHO really gone down the pan in terms of service.

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DesertHound on October 17, 2014, 12:39:01 PM
Bought something from Rails of Sheffield a few days ago. Made an offer, which was accepted, realised they had two for sale and I actually wanted the other one (didn't see it at the time - same loco just box was slightly better). Asked them if they could kindly send me the other one and also specified that if possible please post on a day that would mean the package didn't arrive at the weekend, since nobody would be there to receive it.

Got a reasonably prompt reply and they were willing to accommodate me on both counts. Full marks to Rails of Sheffield - first time I've used them and I was happy.

I don't want to "bash" the other shop in question, but how can I buy from them if a) my means of delivery is not allowed and b) I don't get a reply to a query I submitted via their "contact us" box on their website? I think as consumers we are like a flowing current, or flowing water, we go where we get the least resistance. If I don't get a reply to a query from a business then I usually don't try a second time, I just go somewhere else.

I'm sure there will be others who say that they have had a good service from Hatton's, which is fair enough and I guess it all comes down to personal experiences.

Cheers

Dan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on October 21, 2014, 06:22:01 PM
So son arrives Monday afternoons flight  for a short visit to see Mrs "H" .  We get phone call from the hospital Friday to come Tuesday morning for an ecographia at 10.00,  oh and she is NOT TO EAT that morning.  Mrs "H" insists we leave early to get to hospital early...9:50.  At 10:30 the nurses say the Dr is good but is always late...... 12:30 they say the doctor will not be coming, so come back Saturday morning..................   Oh and that is to go to the ER ask for Dr X  (not his real name) and pray that there are no serious cases to hand,,,,,,,,,,,, :veryangry: :veryangry:

Oh and our internet connection dropped out just as I was trying to buy a Farish 47 for under £30  :veryangry:

All in all though Mrs "H" is doing ok considering and just one more chemo to go,

Jerry
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DesertHound on October 21, 2014, 09:10:11 PM
Jerry

Those kind of things drive me up the wall - very frustrating for you I'm sure. Wishing you guys all the best!

Dan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on October 22, 2014, 07:58:02 AM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on October 21, 2014, 06:22:01 PM

All in all though Mrs "H" is doing ok considering and just one more chemo to go,

Jerry

Hope the chemo does its job & Mrs H is ok.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on October 22, 2014, 01:31:49 PM

And to add to it the Hospital at Lucca (45 mins drive) have phoned today asking us to come in tomorrow morning at 9:00 for pre radiology meeting. We have 5 weeks 5 days a week of this to look forward to yippee............

Son is now looking to buy Hospital T Shirts to celebrate his visit !!!!

Mrs "H" doing better today she actually slept until 07:45 a record of late as 4:00 am is the norm.

Jerry
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 22, 2014, 02:32:24 PM
Despite all your trials and tribulations I hope Mrs H is soon feeling better, Jerry :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on October 22, 2014, 03:23:45 PM
Fingers crossed that the hospital can help and Mrs H will feel a lot better afterwards it's going to be a long month but I'm sure you will all  be a lot happier at the end of the treatment Will be thinking of Mrs H keep us all posted,
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on October 23, 2014, 01:07:03 PM
Rant time !!!

So we arrived at the Hospital in Lucca 50 mins drive awayat 8;30  for the appointment they made yesterday. DR arrives 9:15 good... Dr doesnt speak English (the last specialist was young female GOOD LOOKING and fluent).  Bad for Mrs "H" as I then have to listen, repeat back in Italian to  to Dr so that I know I have  understood and then translate to Mrs "H".   OK  ish so far.  Then the bombshell, they are closing the radiotherapy dept in Lucca, there is a new Hospital but the Radio unit isn't ready, so we will now have to go to  Pisa.   This can be up to 1.5 hours drive and wev will have to go  every day for 5 weeks starting either mid December or January. 
May now have to rent an apartment for the duration for us and Charlie dog.  Euros ????? .  So I guess I will not be splashing out on the railway in a hurry.

Mrs "H" is having a better day today, but I feel MAN FLU coming on.....   Where is that wine bottle....here 

Jerry
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 23, 2014, 02:54:25 PM
OH Gawd - sorry it's going from bad to worse, Jerry :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: REGP on October 23, 2014, 03:23:35 PM
Jerry

Sorry to hear about all the extra agro you and Mrs H are experiencing. But at least she wil getting the treatment she needs so try and look on the bright side occasionally.

Ray
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on October 25, 2014, 08:06:55 PM
Picked my daughter & family up from Gatport Airwick yesterday. Spent forever in traffic jams caused by the Dartford crossing. The b****y bridge must have paid for itself by now it's about time the toll booths were removed. We the motorist pay through the nose in road tax and fuel taxes & I resent being made to pay for something I have paid for several times over! :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 25, 2014, 08:29:47 PM
Quote from: steve836 on October 25, 2014, 08:06:55 PM
Picked my daughter & family up from Gatport Airwick yesterday. Spent forever in traffic jams caused by the Dartford crossing. The b****y bridge must have paid for itself by now it's about time the toll booths were removed. We the motorist pay through the nose in road tax and fuel taxes & I resent being made to pay for something I have paid for several times over! :veryangry:

They are moving to a system where you pay elsewhere before or after crossing. And the bridge btw was paid for by 2003, but the toll was maintained as a traffic management measure which gives them a nice £70m a year to spend on the tube and the bus in front of you ;-)

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on October 25, 2014, 10:19:25 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on October 25, 2014, 08:29:47 PM
Quote from: steve836 on October 25, 2014, 08:06:55 PM
Picked my daughter & family up from Gatport Airwick yesterday. Spent forever in traffic jams caused by the Dartford crossing. The b****y bridge must have paid for itself by now it's about time the toll booths were removed. We the motorist pay through the nose in road tax and fuel taxes & I resent being made to pay for something I have paid for several times over! :veryangry:

They are moving to a system where you pay elsewhere before or after crossing. And the bridge btw was paid for by 2003, but the toll was maintained as a traffic management measure which gives them a nice £70m a year to spend on the tube and the bus in front of you ;-)

Alan

So the idea of traffic management is to cause queues for 10 miles either side of the  :censored: :censored: :censored: bridge?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 25, 2014, 10:32:50 PM
Yes.. it manages to make people take the train/bus go a different route or just stay at home and cry
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on October 25, 2014, 10:45:16 PM
Quote from: steve836 on October 25, 2014, 08:06:55 PM
Picked my daughter & family up from Gatport Airwick yesterday. Spent forever in traffic jams caused by the Dartford crossing. The b****y bridge must have paid for itself by now it's about time the toll booths were removed. We the motorist pay through the nose in road tax and fuel taxes & I resent being made to pay for something I have paid for several times over! :veryangry:

We in the West Country feel the same way about the two Severn Crossings - the only difference is that you only pay to go one way, on your way into Wales. While this has the tempering effect on the ambitions of the English side residents to 'take a quick trip into the Principality', it also has the evil requirement for the Welsh side residents to have to pay to go home...  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 25, 2014, 11:20:08 PM
Two lands at last connected
Across the waters wide,
And all the tolls collected
Upon the English side.

           -- Harri Webb
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on October 26, 2014, 12:34:19 AM
Harri wrote that before the 2nd crossing was built though. The old bridge has tolls on this side and the new bridge has them in Wales  :worried:

What I can never understand is how the cost for a car or even a minibus with up to 9 seats is £6.40 yet a van which generally only carries 2 people costs double that!  :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DesertHound on October 26, 2014, 03:17:22 AM
Quote from: talisman56 on October 25, 2014, 10:45:16 PM
Quote from: steve836 on October 25, 2014, 08:06:55 PM
Picked my daughter & family up from Gatport Airwick yesterday. Spent forever in traffic jams caused by the Dartford crossing. The b****y bridge must have paid for itself by now it's about time the toll booths were removed. We the motorist pay through the nose in road tax and fuel taxes & I resent being made to pay for something I have paid for several times over! :veryangry:

We in the West Country feel the same way about the two Severn Crossings - the only difference is that you only pay to go one way, on your way into Wales. While this has the tempering effect on the ambitions of the English side residents to 'take a quick trip into the Principality', it also has the evil requirement for the Welsh side residents to have to pay to go home...  >:D

I thought the Dartford crossing was also only a toll Northbound, correct? Is it not a bridge one way (northbound?), which is a toll, and a tunnel southbound, which is free? Haven't used it in quite a while. Still, frustrating I agree.

Here in the "sandpit" we have a few toll roads (one very close to my house actually  :veryangry:) but it's all done through stickers (chips) in windscreen and an automatic charge when you drive under it. Just top it up via scratch card from a tracery store on your phone, or link it to your bank account. I try not to use it too often mind.

Having to stop and throw change in a bucket or hand it over to a cashier (as in Europe) seems pretty pre-historic nowadays.

I think the ultimate system would be scrap petrol taxes, fit some kind of RFID chips into cars and then charge according to WHERE you use your car and WHEN you use your car. All very big brother I know, but it could really target the peak periods and hone in on known black spots. A message on your dash could even advise you what your current charge is, or you could punch in a route before leaving home and it would advise which route is cheapest.

Then again, there's the option of doing nothing ...

Very frustrating for you Steve, I'm sure.

Dan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Greybeema on October 26, 2014, 06:23:50 AM
There are a growing number of Toll roads in Ireland.  The charging works on the principle of Reg Number recognition then you pay later however most people have a prepaid electronic tag on their car so it is paid straight away.  No delays, in fact you don't even slow down.

The tag can even be used in some car parks...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on October 26, 2014, 08:19:13 AM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on October 25, 2014, 11:20:08 PM
Two lands at last connected
Across the waters wide,
And all the tolls collected
Upon the English side.

           -- Harri Webb

Good old Sir Cliff ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Michael Shillabeer on October 26, 2014, 09:43:02 AM
When I worked in South Wales last year I had an electronic tag in my car and paid the bridge tolls once a month by direct debit.
Didn't have to queue either.
Best regards
Michael
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on October 26, 2014, 10:08:23 AM
Quote from: Michael Shillabeer on October 26, 2014, 09:43:02 AM
When I worked in South Wales last year I had an electronic tag in my car and paid the bridge tolls once a month by direct debit.
Didn't have to queue either.
Best regards
Michael

These electronic methods of collection would certainly ease the traffic problems caused by our antiquated methods, but they don't address the basic unfairness of making the motorist pay again for something he has already paid for several times over through car tax and fuel taxes.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DesertHound on October 26, 2014, 10:25:11 AM
Quote from: steve836 on October 26, 2014, 10:08:23 AM
Quote from: Michael Shillabeer on October 26, 2014, 09:43:02 AM
When I worked in South Wales last year I had an electronic tag in my car and paid the bridge tolls once a month by direct debit.
Didn't have to queue either.
Best regards
Michael

These electronic methods of collection would certainly ease the traffic problems caused by our antiquated methods, but they don't address the basic unfairness of making the motorist pay again for something he has already paid for several times over through car tax and fuel taxes.

Completely agree with you Steve. Which is why I said abolish petrol tax and charge via GPS. Then you can vary the charges according to location (congestion) and time of day (congestion).

Make petrol 30p per litre and the government can still make up the shortfall from no petrol tax via locational/timing charging. So long as they don't go above and beyond the previous tax take from petrol (yeah, right!)

When I lived up the road I paid 13p per litre - hadn't changed since 1983! Government subsidized of course! Where I am now it's 30p per litre (more than double) but it still only costs 21 quid to fill up a 70 litre tank.

Ah ... but before you think I'm bragging, try 6-10 quid for a pint in a bar  :no: ... and it's cr*ppy beer at that!

Dan

Dan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on October 26, 2014, 10:48:39 AM
Not sure I entirely agree with your solution. I personally would benefit as I live out in the sticks and rarely take my own car into a large town but people who live and work in areas of  high road use usually do so because that is where the jobs are and there is something wrong with penalising people for something which isn't their fault. The real answer would be for the government to use the money they already from road use to improve the roads.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DesertHound on October 26, 2014, 11:07:39 AM
Thing is Steve, they already penalize people, it's called parking charges. I know what you mean though, and I'm not entirely sure I agree with it ethically either, but it's one solution.

You could also argue the opposite, that petrol taxes are grossly unfair on those living in the countryside, since they have to cover more miles to go to work, go to the supermarket etc, yet there is no congestion.

Many large cities (think London) have good public transport systems and when I worked in London hardly anybody drove to work. Everyone took the train or bus. Improving the road network is a must but didn't they do studies years ago to demonstrate that building more roads just leads to more cars?

Not in disagreement with you. If I knew the answer I'd take it to the government!

Dan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 26, 2014, 11:08:55 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on October 26, 2014, 12:34:19 AM
What I can never understand is how the cost for a car or even a minibus with up to 9 seats is £6.40 yet a van which generally only carries 2 people costs double that!  :doh:

Because they can ? A lot of vans and trucks go the long way around as a result especially as Welsh council business contracts specify severn bridge tolls are not expensable or reclaimable.

Still we do now have a Stobart Less CO2 service into South Wales.

I did like the comments of one of the severn tunnel engineering team that they try to avoid cutting England off from civilization more than neccessary 8-)

Alan

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on October 26, 2014, 11:50:41 AM
Dartford crossing is a toll bridge southbound and toll tunnels northbound (the original southbound tunnel is now northbound).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DesertHound on October 26, 2014, 12:04:11 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on October 26, 2014, 11:08:55 AM
I did like the comments of one of the severn tunnel engineering team that they try to avoid cutting England off from civilization more than neccessary 8-)

Alan

:laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :wave:

Talisman - thanks for also pointing out it's tolls both ways. I couldn't remember. I thought it used to be only tolls in one direction, bt that could have been a while ago, or a figment of my imagination.

Cheers

Dan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on October 26, 2014, 12:11:51 PM
Quote from: DesertHound on October 26, 2014, 12:04:11 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on October 26, 2014, 11:08:55 AM
I did like the comments of one of the severn tunnel engineering team that they try to avoid cutting England off from civilization more than neccessary 8-)

Alan

:laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :wave:

Talisman - thanks for also pointing out it's tolls both ways. I couldn't remember. I thought it used to be only tolls in one direction, bt that could have been a while ago, or a figment of my imagination.

Cheers

Dan

Apparently the Dartford crossing is free between 10pm and 6am - I suppose it saves them having to pay night rates to the crossing staff...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on October 26, 2014, 05:21:01 PM
Quote from: talisman56 on October 26, 2014, 12:11:51 PM
Quote from: DesertHound on October 26, 2014, 12:04:11 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on October 26, 2014, 11:08:55 AM
I did like the comments of one of the severn tunnel engineering team that they try to avoid cutting England off from civilization more than neccessary 8-)

Alan

:laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :wave:

Talisman - thanks for also pointing out it's tolls both ways. I couldn't remember. I thought it used to be only tolls in one direction, bt that could have been a while ago, or a figment of my imagination.

Cheers

Dan

Apparently the Dartford crossing is free between 10pm and 6am - I suppose it saves them having to pay night rates to the crossing staff...

Won't have to pay crossing staff at all soon as it's going "Numberplate Recognition" during November and will be chargeable on the same basis as the London Congestion Charge - either you pay in advance of using it or you have until midnight the following day to pay it, otherwise you will face a penalty charge :thumbsup:

Taken from the Dart-TAG website:-
"The way you pay the Dartford Crossing charge is changing.

Dart Charge — the new remote payment system being introduced during late November 2014 will reduce congestion and ease traffic flow at the Crossing.

If you currently have a DART-Tag it will be easy for you to move to a new Dart Charge account.

Please ensure the contact information on your account is up to date because you will be contacted with further information about how to move to the new account shortly.

Current DART-Tag holders will not lose any credit from their existing accounts and any remaining funds will either be transferred or refunded, as appropriate.

Once Dart Charge has been introduced, it will no longer be possible to pay the charge at a barrier as you use the Crossing. Instead, you will need to pay in advance of crossing or by midnight the following day. You will be able to pay in several ways, including; online, by phone at one of many payzone retail outlets or by post.

It will still be easier to set up an account, where you can save up to one third on every crossing.

Advance construction work is well underway to prepare for the introduction of Dart Charge. Immediately after the introduction of Dart Charge, we will start the main road works at the Crossing to remove the booths and introduce a new road layout; this work is due to be completed in spring 2015.

You can find more information and subscribe to receive updates on the introduction of Dart Charge at www.gov.uk/highways/dartford (http://www.gov.uk/highways/dartford) "




Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Greybeema on October 26, 2014, 05:33:41 PM
Watch out for the minimum balance allowed and the minimum top out account - you might be surprised about how high the level of each is...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on October 26, 2014, 06:44:12 PM
So it will be free to anyone with false number plates then?  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 27, 2014, 06:27:32 PM
Holy roof (I invite jokes on that theme to lighten the mood) update 1:

Well it seems it is not that serious. There is a vent installed in the roof, and as I sort of suspected, the lead flashing is a bit bent and letting in rain at certain angle.

It would seem that (in the words of the roofer who went to take a peak) it has been "installed by a plumber". Its not a bad job, just not finished correctly. Much like we are finding we the rest of this house, it was a half-job.

Anyway, said roofer was here less than 30 mins, said it was not a big job and he would send (e-mail) a quote. That was on Thursday. Nothing.

Now I am sorry but why do local tradesman just not want work??? Is this "too small to bother with"? Even if that were true, why not just come out with that? I am prepared to pay the man the going rate, I don't want my house leaking through the winter (I suspect this would not be its first winter, judging by the inept quality of things I have found in the house to date).

I may be forced to price up tall ladders and do it myself. Which will no doubt result in a trip to A&E. Or a YBF clip. Which I suppose could provide some funds.

ARG!

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on October 27, 2014, 07:04:08 PM
DONT Talk to me about roofers ,The scaffolders were supposed to put scaffolding up on Thur 16 didnt come till Friday  afternoon put up the front bit said they were coming back Sat came Sun afternoon put up side scaffolding ,
Roofer came Mon mid day said he will come back when the rest of scaffold was up they came Mon afternoon finished the rest,The roofer came Wed went to get matching tiles came back Fri it's now 11days later roof half done no sign of roofer phone turned off no contact at all.as you say don't they want work. How can you leave a roof half done I am old school if I do something for some one I do it as quickly as I can and to the best of my ability,no one seems to care a toss any more
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on October 27, 2014, 07:55:24 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on October 27, 2014, 06:27:32 PM
Holy roof (I invite jokes on that theme to lighten the mood) update 1:

Well it seems it is not that serious. There is a vent installed in the roof, and as I sort of suspected, the lead flashing is a bit bent and letting in rain at certain angle.

It would seem that (in the words of the roofer who went to take a peak) it has been "installed by a plumber". Its not a bad job, just not finished correctly. Much like we are finding we the rest of this house, it was a half-job.

Anyway, said roofer was here less than 30 mins, said it was not a big job and he would send (e-mail) a quote. That was on Thursday. Nothing.

Now I am sorry but why do local tradesman just not want work??? Is this "too small to bother with"? Even if that were true, why not just come out with that? I am prepared to pay the man the going rate, I don't want my house leaking through the winter (I suspect this would not be its first winter, judging by the inept quality of things I have found in the house to date).

I may be forced to price up tall ladders and do it myself. Which will no doubt result in a trip to A&E. Or a YBF clip. Which I suppose could provide some funds.

ARG!

Skyline2uk

1) Strictly speaking a plumber should do the lead work (plumbum is the latin for lead)
2) If you do fall off pics please :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 27, 2014, 08:03:38 PM
Quote1) Strictly speaking a plumber should do the lead work (plumbum is the latin for lead)
2) If you do fall off pics please :D

1) Smart

2) How rude  :P

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on October 27, 2014, 10:23:10 PM
Extreme railway modelling opportunity. Bet not many people have run trains round their chimney  :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Buzzard on October 28, 2014, 04:54:11 PM
OK so I get this new phone made by a company whose motto is Life's Good.

Well life wood be good in the Buzzard household except

a)  I cannot get hold of a full manual for the phone
b)  I cannot register my phone on the LG website
c)  As I cannot do b above I cannot get user support to assist and finally
d)  LG seem to busy to talk to me or have enough people on their live chat facility

So dear reader if you're thinking of buying an LG product do some more research and buy your required product from another manufacturer.

Life's Good, pah!

Nigel
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ozzie Bill. on October 29, 2014, 12:48:45 AM
Why is it that when you are assembling a kit, or similar, there is always one joint that gives you grief. I am trying to put together a ratio brass etch safety cage for a ladder and there is one pesky joint where the glue just won't take!!! Aaaargh! Driving me crazy. Hopefully I have finally nailed it, but there is a big goo of glue on that joint, so that will have to come off, as it is unacceptable, even to my low standards. Cheers, Bill.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on October 29, 2014, 08:43:18 AM
You said you've nailed it they must have been very tiny nails  : :bounce: HA Ha
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 29, 2014, 10:35:10 AM
QuoteExtreme railway modelling opportunity. Bet not many people have run trains round their chimney  :(

lol, thanks Etched, that made me smile  :D

As did the SLIGHT progress (see happy thread)

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ditape on October 29, 2014, 01:34:43 PM
Just had British Gas come to fit new meters and they have refused to put my gas back on until I get a new boiler(which was working fine before they came) so I have to wait until Friday before they will even come to look at the job. :veryangry:  :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on October 30, 2014, 04:18:09 PM
 >:( Thursday last week I sneezed really hard and jarred a top tooth down on to one in the bottom jaw.
Both teeth are now hurting like -- :censored:-- where the nerves got bruised.
I`m even on a soft food diet (self imposed) with no really hot or cold drinks as they just inflame the damaged/bruised nerves
Thank Gawd for Co-codamol  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: FeelixTC on October 30, 2014, 04:28:28 PM
Quote from: jonclox on October 30, 2014, 04:18:09 PM
.........Thank Gawd for Co-codamol  :hmmm:

Be careful; Codeine is an addictive opiate. I recommend Guinness, served at room temperature.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on October 30, 2014, 06:57:37 PM
At the moment living with SWMBO is like living with a caged Lion, her 3 year old LG all lights bells and whistled computerized Washing Machine has broken down  :'( its going to cost an arm and a leg to fix  :veryangry: to her having her favorite toy break down is the same as me dropping my favorite loco in the floor and not being able to fix it  :censored: I think I will be taking a few long walks today  ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DesertHound on October 30, 2014, 07:42:50 PM
Quote from: longbridge on October 30, 2014, 06:57:37 PM
At the moment living with SWMBO is like living with a caged Lion, her 3 year old LG all lights bells and whistled computerized Washing Machine has broken down  :'( its going to cost an arm and a leg to fix  :veryangry: to her having her favorite toy break down is the same as me dropping my favorite loco in the floor and not being able to fix it  :censored: I think I will be taking a few long walks today  ::)

You lucky so and so Dave ... wish my wife viewed the washing machine as her favourite toy  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on October 30, 2014, 07:55:28 PM
Don't hold your breath on any insurance paying out ... we had a "fix or replace with brand new" ... the guy came out, looked at it, tried a few things & said he couldn't fix it ... next day the insurers phoned up, said it wasn't economical & issued a  :censored: refund !!!

Had to buy a new one ourselves ... 3 months later the  :censored: insurers  :censored: called to try & get SWMBO to  :censored: sign up on the new one !!!

No prizes for guessing what happened !!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on October 31, 2014, 10:15:10 AM
Quote from: FeelixTC on October 30, 2014, 04:28:28 PM
Quote from: jonclox on October 30, 2014, 04:18:09 PM
.........Thank Gawd for Co-codamol  :hmmm:

Be careful; Codeine is an addictive opiate. I recommend Guinness, served at room temperature.
:thumbsup: Trouble is Guinness is far more addictive than co-codimal. One I can keep under control but the other would lead to major problems for me.
In fact I stopped drinking it and its brethren 18years and 11 months ago.
Thonkls for the warning though 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: FeelixTC on October 31, 2014, 01:32:44 PM
Quote from: jonclox on October 31, 2014, 10:15:10 AM

In fact I stopped drinking it and its brethren 18years and 11 months ago.
Thonkls for the warning though

Well done; I admire you  :claphappy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on October 31, 2014, 04:25:37 PM
Meh. SleazyJet flight from Berlin to Gatwick delayed from 6pm to midnight (current estimate) due to the plane breaking down. Which is kind of annoying as I need to be at Heathrow before 9am tomorrrow morning...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on October 31, 2014, 04:28:17 PM
Quote from: railsquid on October 31, 2014, 04:25:37 PM
Meh. SleazyJet flight from Berlin to Gatwick delayed from 6pm to midnight (current estimate) due to the plane breaking down. Which is kind of annoying as I need to be at Heathrow before 9am tomorrrow morning...
[/quot

better breaking down in Germany than breaking up on the way home!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on October 31, 2014, 05:02:20 PM
Fortunately it seems they found a spare plane down the back of a sofa or something and the delay is now trivial.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on October 31, 2014, 11:53:28 PM
I have been laying the track for the goods yard in my layout tonight. Those pesky Insulated Joiners are a right ......., in the end I give up trying to fit one to the centre of my 3 way point. I fitted a normal joiner and used the cutting disc a few sleepers down. In all probability my locos wont venture that far down the siding, i did think about not bothering with feeds, we shall see when I test it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mark100 on November 05, 2014, 04:30:14 PM
Arrrrrrrrrrgh !!!! :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored:

Is all this clear plastic necessary?

I started working on the Class 45 that I purchased a couple of months ago which I also mentioned in another thread months ago about painting a faded BR Blue loco using blushers and various eye shadows e.t.c, plus someone on here sent me a class 44 to do the same way.
Anyway I spent 10 min's trying to find a clear piece of plastic that sits in the front of the box over the loco after it fell out onto our wooden floor and it was out of the class 44 box B.T.W  :censored:

Why don't Bachmann use something else rather than loose bits of plastic?

Mark (Angry today) :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on November 05, 2014, 05:07:39 PM
Does anyone know why they put those clear sheets of plastic in the box anyway??
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on November 05, 2014, 06:07:08 PM
Quote from: Bob Tidbury on November 05, 2014, 05:07:39 PM
Does anyone know why they put those clear sheets of plastic in the box anyway??
Bob

So we've got a ready supply of raw materials for glazing buildings and rolling stock?  ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mark100 on November 05, 2014, 11:19:43 PM
Quote from: Bob Tidbury on November 05, 2014, 05:07:39 PM
Does anyone know why they put those clear sheets of plastic in the box anyway??
Bob
It gives someone in China a job, I suppose
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on November 12, 2014, 09:17:47 PM
Went to Butterly last Sunday, had a great day, but forgot my camera and used my "Hudle" the pics were ok but when I tried to share some with you guys  (and gals) they keep disappearing into cyberspace :veryangry: :censored: :sorrysign:
They have some interesting stock. A standard 5 was in steam, they have 2 princess coronation and some diesels including one by the name of Western Lady which they must have bought in a moment of weakness and seem ashamed of as they try to hide it under a tarpaulin :D
There are several other steamers in varying states of renovation, a great day out and I thoroughly recommend it.
My tame computer geek is coming tomorrow to try to sort out the pics. If he succeeds I will post them.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on November 12, 2014, 10:02:16 PM
Quote from: steve836 on November 12, 2014, 09:17:47 PMI tried to share some with you guys  (and gals) they keep disappearing into cyberspace

"Cyberspace" is so 90's. You're supposed to hang with the cool hipsters and call it "The Cloud".

Disclaimer: I work in IT and I find these gadgets increasingly annoying...

Glad you had a good time though.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Michael Shillabeer on November 12, 2014, 11:03:36 PM
Quote from: railsquid on November 12, 2014, 10:02:16 PM
Disclaimer: I work in IT and I find these gadgets increasingly annoying...

People using iPads as cameras remind me of the early days...

(http://cr4.globalspec.com/PostImages/201104/camera_117E7DEB-95A4-3493-9D1F5673DDF35929.jpg)

Somebody should bring out an iPad hood to shield the screen...

Best regards
Michael
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on November 12, 2014, 11:36:21 PM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:

So true.

Regarding the plastic in the packaging, I reckon the products are totally over packed. I seem to remember posting this somewhere before, but I damaged my Blue Pullman just unpacking it, and also my new Class 55.  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on November 12, 2014, 11:49:33 PM
Yeah, whoever came up with that BachFar 55 packaging should be made to subsist on 70's style BR buffet fare for the rest of their lives. I keep forgetting to find a replacement box for it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on November 13, 2014, 12:38:52 AM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
I was so exasperated I took a photo of it!!
[smg id=13693 type=preview align=center width=400]
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on November 13, 2014, 03:57:34 AM
I would gladly pay less for over packaging and more for a better quality product but as usual I am just dreaming  :sleep:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on November 13, 2014, 09:13:14 AM
Quote from: railsquid on November 12, 2014, 10:02:16 PM
Quote from: steve836 on November 12, 2014, 09:17:47 PMI tried to share some with you guys  (and gals) they keep disappearing into cyberspace

"Cyberspace" is so 90's. You're supposed to hang with the cool hipsters and call it "The Cloud".

Disclaimer: I work in IT and I find these gadgets increasingly annoying...

Glad you had a good time though.

I'm well past my sell by date so be glad I'm up to the 90's jargon :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on November 13, 2014, 04:14:15 PM
Quote from: railsquid on November 12, 2014, 11:49:33 PM
Yeah, whoever came up with that BachFar 55 packaging should be made to subsist on 70's style BR buffet fare for the rest of their lives. I keep forgetting to find a replacement box for it.

When the new packaging came out I asked a Bachmann rep as to the reason why they went with it, as it's a real pain in the :censored: bum, to get the stock out.

His reply!!!!  Because it makes the model look better on the shop shelf!!! and he then went on to quantify this statement by saying that the old grey foam insert overshadowed the ability to display the qualities of the latest detailing of the latest models, (or words to that effect), and that this is how Bachmann US had been packaging models for years.

So it seems it's an instruction from Bachmann Corporate in the States....

regards

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 13, 2014, 07:45:57 PM
I think I might be alone in preferring that sort of packaging to the foam as, to me, there is less chance of damage when handling :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on November 13, 2014, 09:48:04 PM
Have you experienced this particular item?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tdm on November 13, 2014, 11:31:22 PM
With so much packaging the models I receive in Tenerife are never damaged when they arrive, only when I try to extract them!  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 14, 2014, 10:16:20 AM
Quote from: railsquid on November 13, 2014, 09:48:04 PM
Have you experienced this particular item?

Yup - I have the plain green version 'Pinza' :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tdm on November 14, 2014, 11:02:54 AM
Annoying pop up adverts:

A question for those on here who currently have good knowledge of todays I.T. World and the Internet.

I am getting really annoyed with the number of adverts that constantly pop up everytime I do a search for something on the Internet.

I have tried one pop up blocker, but it wasn't very good and I still got inundated with unwanted ads.

Can anyone recommend a really good and effective ad blocker, I don't mind paying if it is effective.

My system is as follows :- Toshiba Satellite I7 chip Laptop with sufficient memory.
Latest Windows 8.1 operating system, and I use Firefox as my Internet Browser.
Use Avira as my main Virus checker, plus Advanced System Care, and Wise Care.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on November 14, 2014, 11:09:46 AM
If you're using Firefox, install the Adblock and NoScript add-ons - slight loss of performance, but ad-free heaven...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Luke Piewalker on November 14, 2014, 11:52:42 AM
Adblock Plus as my basic ad protection.
And NoScript.
Beware though, NoScript is the 'nuclear' option which blocks everything that isn't specifically allowed. Which means a lot of bank and online purchasing websites where you are sent to a separate payment processor or what have you can be a bit of a banana skin.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Wild on November 14, 2014, 12:02:03 PM
Quote from: Tdm on November 14, 2014, 11:02:54 AM
Annoying pop up adverts:


Me too - especially as I use the word "model" in a lot of my searches!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on November 14, 2014, 12:14:07 PM
Occasionally I search for model railway supplies on the website of one of the big electronics retailer here in Japan. Unfortunately whatever ad targetting algorithm is used has decided that "railway modeller" is a subset of the genre "otaku nerd" and half the other websites I get ads from the retailer for anime/manga stuff and the odd photographic volume featuring young ladies who are barely decnt.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tdm on November 14, 2014, 01:36:39 PM
Thanks for the quick replies - have just added Adblock & Noscript to my Firefox add-ons but have yet to see if they are effective as been out for a while.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DesertHound on November 14, 2014, 02:15:46 PM
Quote from: railsquid on November 14, 2014, 12:14:07 PM
Occasionally I search for model railway supplies on the website of one of the big electronics retailer here in Japan. Unfortunately whatever ad targetting algorithm is used has decided that "railway modeller" is a subset of the genre "otaku nerd" and half the other websites I get ads from the retailer for anime/manga stuff and the odd photographic volume featuring young ladies who are barely decnt.

I told you it would be hard to shake the "Otaku" label Railquid!  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on November 17, 2014, 06:23:38 AM
I'm just sitting here with me phone and a beer waiting for a few of me mates to turn up, and being almost the only person online at the moment (5.30pm Aus time), and being a bit bored, I just looked at the stats (as one does).

Interesting to reflect that the top thread by views is this one.  :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on November 17, 2014, 06:59:29 AM
It probably doesn't help that it must be one of the longest threads... and people tend to be more expressive about negative things than positive ones...

railsquid goes off to find the happy thread
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on November 17, 2014, 07:05:21 AM
Off ya go, then.  :veryangry:

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tdm on November 17, 2014, 09:56:03 AM
Quote from: railsquid on November 17, 2014, 06:59:29 AM
It probably doesn't help that it must be one of the longest threads... and people tend to be more expressive about negative things than positive ones...
railsquid goes off to find the happy thread

Yes why is it so many people have such a negative outlook these days - there should be more of "my glass is half full" rather than "my glass is half empty".

If the powers that be replaced the angry & happy threads with just a single "mood" thread then it wouldn't be that the angry thread was the most popular one. 

This is not an angry post - just an observation and comment.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on November 17, 2014, 10:11:47 AM
Perhaps there should be a thread for people to complain about the angry thread..... :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 17, 2014, 10:47:47 AM
Quote from: Agrippa on November 17, 2014, 10:11:47 AM
Perhaps there should be a thread for people to complain about the angry thread..... :D

But if they were happy to complain, wouldn't that appear in the Happy thread? :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on November 17, 2014, 11:06:04 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on November 17, 2014, 10:47:47 AM
Quote from: Agrippa on November 17, 2014, 10:11:47 AM
Perhaps there should be a thread for people to complain about the angry thread..... :D

But if they were happy to complain, wouldn't that appear in the Happy thread? :laugh:

At this rate we're going to need a Confused  :dunce: ??? thread.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on November 17, 2014, 11:56:46 AM
Not sure of the problem with the angry thread. Its often good to just let off steam now and then and anyway most of the postings are not gripes but other people sympathising or offering solutions.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Wild on November 17, 2014, 12:04:10 PM
Ah but; this is the thread with the most views. Perhaps we all like to hear about other peoples misfortunes - shadenfreude?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 17, 2014, 01:53:25 PM
I think it's in the British psyche to sound off about the bad whilst not praising the good, borne out by the sheer numbers of pages in the Angry v Happy threads :hmmm:
I'd like to see more praise where it's due, especially for the manufacturers as 3 years ago at TINGS I got quite an earbashing from Dave Jones (at Dapol then) on the basis the NGF didn't like Dapol.
It's time we got closer to the likes of Farish and Dapol - not push them away.

This is starting to sound like a rant............... :oopssign: :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on November 17, 2014, 07:15:18 PM
Quote from: Bob Wild on November 17, 2014, 12:04:10 PM
Ah but; this is the thread with the most views. Perhaps we all like to hear about other peoples misfortunes - shadenfreude?

It may have the most views, but it has been going since 29/3/11 which means its getting 2.5 posts per day and 73.31 views. Compare that ,say, with Peter's thread Do you remember which is getting 15.12 posts/day and 172.25 views. Won't be long before it's overtaken.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on November 17, 2014, 07:31:51 PM
To compare with another long running thread Show latest rolling stock purchase 2.5 posts/day 108.62 views/day
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Wild on November 17, 2014, 10:39:06 PM
Good maths, Steve386. Damned statistics.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DesertHound on November 18, 2014, 05:23:50 AM
 :uneasy:
Quote from: Bob Wild on November 17, 2014, 10:39:06 PM
Good maths, Steve386. Damned statistics.

Now now Bob - you're in the right place, but let's not get angry  ;D

There's lies, damned lies, and statistics.

Or, how about this one ... Figures don't lie, but liars do figure.

Sorry, going way off topic  :sorrysign:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on November 18, 2014, 06:33:07 AM
There's something else which makes me angry, people going off-topic in off-topic threads... what's the world coming to...?  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on December 02, 2014, 07:53:00 PM
My Wife and I went to the doctors for our annual check up and to get some prescriptions, they also give us the results of blood tests,  usually things are OK.

What gets to me is the amount of extra things they want us to do, I have to go for a Bone Density Test, my Wife has to see a Podiatrist, Eye Specialist, Dietician and get a Bone Density Test.

I get the feeling doctors these days are looking for something to wreck your life, either that or they are making money out of referrals, either way all we want to do is get on with our lives.

Do doctors back home in the UK send patients for all sorts of tests, to me tests are fine if you are sick but a pain in the butt if you feel OK and a waste of taxpayers money.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on December 02, 2014, 08:02:16 PM
You have paid your taxes so why not take the tests, even if it shows you are fully fit, at least you know the doctor has you and your wifes health in check, good luck with the tests.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Wild on December 02, 2014, 11:08:58 PM
Quote from: Geoff on December 02, 2014, 08:02:16 PM
You have paid your taxes so why not take the tests.

Ah but, if they didn't give unnecessary tests your taxes would be lower. On a recent trip to the quack, he insisted I had a flue jab even though I didn't want one.

Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on December 02, 2014, 11:13:40 PM
Quote from: Bob Wild on December 02, 2014, 11:08:58 PM
Quote from: Geoff on December 02, 2014, 08:02:16 PM
You have paid your taxes so why not take the tests.

Ah but, if they didn't give unnecessary tests your taxes would be lower. On a recent trip to the quack, he insisted I had a flue jab even though I didn't want one.

Bob
Yep I take your point but they would only spend the money else where for the same high taxes, I saw my doctor a few weeks back had some tests done and he said remind me to give you the flu jab, of course I never the wife had the flue jab and her arm was bad for 2 weeks.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on December 02, 2014, 11:24:19 PM
You haven't mentioned the home bowel cancer test kit we get through the post every 2 years once you reach 60. You can have hours of fun with that! :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on December 02, 2014, 11:26:36 PM
You know what you can do with that............
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on December 03, 2014, 12:18:26 AM
A home test kit? I had mine checked out a few weeks ago which involved a day of Klean Prep (flavoured with lime as I hate it slightly less than vanilla) and then a camera up me bum. How would I do the latter part at home?

Actually I'm not so sure I want an answer to that and I won't be asking Agrippa for advice either  :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on December 03, 2014, 12:26:15 AM
Now do not get me going about 8 years ago I had everything done to me I thought not possible they put me on this articulated table with a tube not somewhere nice then the fun started, talk about pain was not in it, neve again so embarassing, unhappy memories lol.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 03, 2014, 01:31:07 AM
I've been ORDERED to have one and I keep putting it off and putting it off... at least til the new year....  :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on December 03, 2014, 01:42:52 AM
Don't put it off, you'll love it! Honest!

I didn't mind the camera bit, it was good viewing as it made it's merry way, about 3 feet, up inside. It was just the day before.............

Apart from that it was great!  :laugh3:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 03, 2014, 05:10:31 AM
 :uneasy: :uneasy: :confused2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on December 03, 2014, 06:34:20 AM
I dont care a hoot about taxes, I have had so many fingers up my backside I am starting to query my sexuality :help: as for the home bowel cancer test Malc mentioned that sounds like a load of mucking around :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 03, 2014, 06:43:30 AM
Let's change subject before I lock the whole thread!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on December 03, 2014, 07:07:45 AM
Quote from: Bealman on December 03, 2014, 06:43:30 AM
Let's change subject before I lock the whole thread!!

Oh poo spoil sport.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on December 03, 2014, 07:59:57 AM
Quote from: Bealman on December 03, 2014, 06:43:30 AM
Let's change subject before I lock the whole thread!!


Crikey is it my weird Aussie sence of humour or am I really out of line ??? I didnt think having a broad mind was a crime, I have seen far worse on this forum.

On second thoughts I hate feeling as though I have said something out of place so I might just quit the forum.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on December 03, 2014, 08:26:39 AM
Quote from: longbridge on December 03, 2014, 07:59:57 AM
Quote from: Bealman on December 03, 2014, 06:43:30 AM
Let's change subject before I lock the whole thread!!


Crikey is it my weird Aussie sence of humour or am I really out of line ??? I didnt think having a broad mind was a crime, I have seen far worse on this forum.

On second thoughts I hate feeling as though I have said something out of place so I might just quit the forum.

I doubt it is anything you have said Dave and please bud do not leave us, I personally do not think it is what you said at all and it would of fizzled away in the end without pulling the thread remark anyway, Brits and Aussies always have a bit of banter cos its part of the game.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DesertHound on December 03, 2014, 08:30:30 AM
Quote from: longbridge on December 03, 2014, 07:59:57 AM
Quote from: Bealman on December 03, 2014, 06:43:30 AM
Let's change subject before I lock the whole thread!!


Crikey is it my weird Aussie sence of humour or am I really out of line ??? I didnt think having a broad mind was a crime, I have seen far worse on this forum.

On second thoughts I hate feeling as though I have said something out of place so I might just quit the forum.

Don't quit Longbridge. I'm sure Bealman will PM you to sort this out - he's a good guy and perhaps has to walk the tightrope being a mod.

I personally think we need every one of you guys "over there" on the forum - it broadens the discussions.

Stay with us mate.

Dan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on December 03, 2014, 08:32:34 AM
Quote from: longbridge on December 03, 2014, 07:59:57 AM
Quote from: Bealman on December 03, 2014, 06:43:30 AM
Let's change subject before I lock the whole thread!!


Crikey is it my weird Aussie sence of humour or am I really out of line ??? I didnt think having a broad mind was a crime, I have seen far worse on this forum.

On second thoughts I hate feeling as though I have said something out of place so I might just quit the forum.

I'm with Bealman, I think enough has been said on this topic and before it gets out of hand lets get back to the normal angry thread as this is one thread we really don't want to have to lock.

:thankyousign:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on December 03, 2014, 08:50:40 AM
No problems Caz, just delete anything that I said and get on with the Angry Thread, I cant be something I am not so dont fit in with this forum any more, I find it hard to watch my Ps and Qs so will leave you in peace and move on to the forums I know can take a joke or a bit of fun, I will post this and then log out, by the way when I was a Moderator on this forum I used to enjoy a bit of harmless fun but these days the forum seems to be run with an iron fist.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on December 03, 2014, 09:05:28 AM
Well talk about angry I am angry I thought I would never be, the discussion did not go out of sorts and I feel the mods responses over this is out of order, so with losing a member from over the pond I am feeling I will have to leave also.

Makes me very sad today.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 03, 2014, 09:15:01 AM
Surely you're all joking! I know I was!!

C'mon people... are we bored at the moment or what   :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on December 03, 2014, 09:15:56 AM
Quote from: Geoff on December 03, 2014, 09:05:28 AM
Well talk about angry I am angry I thought I would never be, the discussion did not go out of sorts and I feel the mods responses over this is out of order, so with losing a member from over the pond I am feeling I will have to leave also.

Makes me very sad today.
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Dont leave because of me Geoff, all of us blokes hate prostate examinations and I just tried to make a light hearted joke of it, it back fired because some people are unable to take a joke, stay with the forum and forget this incident, have fun and thanks for the back up.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on December 03, 2014, 09:24:41 AM
I wasn't angry about the comment by Bealman which I took as a joke and I wouldn't leave the Forum just because of that ,But I'm getting rather angry about the workers popping up at the end of a lot of posts they must be on a go slow as they still haven't finished taking the cupboard magnets apart  .They are even at the top here above all the smileys  is it only me or are other people getting them.
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 03, 2014, 09:31:31 AM
 :laughabovepost: from downunder!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on December 03, 2014, 09:47:28 AM
Bealman The picture is still there under your last post or am I just seeing things .
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on December 03, 2014, 09:52:08 AM
The picture seems to be after the last post at the bottom of the page .
Two pictures also appear at the top  above the smileys when I try to put a new post on they are really annoying,
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on December 03, 2014, 09:54:46 AM
I'm not sure what pictures you are referring to, Bob? I only see the smiley pointing up on George's post, no other pictures.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 03, 2014, 09:57:52 AM
What?

I really have no idea what you are talking about!  What pictures?  :confused2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Wild on December 03, 2014, 10:01:09 AM
There are no workers in this house. Are they ad's? If so I know a good ad-blocker.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on December 03, 2014, 10:24:42 AM
The pictures were from Andre-Ns My little test layout  but they have now vanished without me doing any thing  so it must have been my IPad having a mental breakdown with all the use it gets I now remember I had this happen a few months ago I don't know why or how it cleared itself it just did .
O the joys of today's Technology
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on December 03, 2014, 10:25:03 AM
I've given up trying to figure out what all this is about.... ???

Many of the posts end up going off at a tangent and few have any relation to rail modelling,
most seem to be the same moans and groans  you get in letters to the papers.

Perhaps time to shut this section down and get back to basics............
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DesertHound on December 03, 2014, 11:08:48 AM
Chaps chaps chaps - you're missing something. They'd had enough due to no new rolling stock purchases for quite a while and to save themselves from boredom they walked off set and over to Stewart's Lane.

Nobby spotted it here ...

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=24958.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=24958.0)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NinOz on December 03, 2014, 11:25:49 AM
Quote from: DesertHound on December 03, 2014, 11:08:48 AM
Chaps chaps chaps - you're missing something. They'd had enough due to no new rolling stock purchases for quite a while and to save themselves from boredom they walked off set and over to Stewart's Lane.

I think they have all gone barking mad. ???
CFJ
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DesertHound on December 03, 2014, 11:28:43 AM
Quote from: NinOz on December 03, 2014, 11:25:49 AM
I think they have all gone barking mad. ???
CFJ

Barking is on the other side of the river to Stwart's Lane IIRC NinOz!  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on December 03, 2014, 11:49:36 AM
Quote from: NinOz on December 03, 2014, 11:25:49 AM
Quote from: DesertHound on December 03, 2014, 11:08:48 AM
Chaps chaps chaps - you're missing something. They'd had enough due to no new rolling stock purchases for quite a while and to save themselves from boredom they walked off set and over to Stewart's Lane.

I think they have all gone barking mad. ???
CFJ

Reminds me of the old joke about people being 'Dagenham East' - when asked what they were talking about they replied 'four stops on from Barking...'
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 03, 2014, 01:18:31 PM
Quote from: Agrippa on December 03, 2014, 10:25:03 AM
I've given up trying to figure out what all this is about.... ???

Many of the posts end up going off at a tangent and few have any relation to rail modelling,
most seem to be the same moans and groans  you get in letters to the papers.

Perhaps time to shut this section down and get back to basics............

Whilst I agree this section is nothing to do necessarily with modelling it's a great way for folks to vent their spleen (hopefully with a touch of humour thrown in ;))
If we want to stick to modelling then the General Discussion board has to go - Jokes, Happy Thread, What are you listening to.........etc and, to my mind, this would make the forum a much poorer and less entertaining place to be. Not sure I'd want to be part of that :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on December 03, 2014, 01:32:46 PM
NPN, I see your point, but much of this section is about people bumping their gums
about the NHS, petrol prices , blah blah, etc which reads like the letters page in the
Daily Mail. The recent bowel thread became tedious and ended in a petty squabble
which has transferred to another thread!

Anyways it'll soon be time for festive moans about Xmas costs, queues in shops,
latest Farish locos not released in time for Santa's visit.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: FeelixTC on December 03, 2014, 01:37:46 PM
Quote from: Agrippa on December 03, 2014, 01:32:46 PM
NPN, I see your point, but much of this section is about people bumping their gums
about the NHS, petrol prices , blah blah, etc which reads like the letters page in the
Daily Mail. The recent bowel thread became tedious and ended in a petty squabble
which has transferred to another thread!

Anyways it'll soon be time for festive moans about Xmas costs, queues in shops,
latest Farish locos not released in time for Santa's visit.

Are you unable to simply ignore boring threads?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DesertHound on December 03, 2014, 01:45:59 PM
Come on Agrippa - remember that World Cup thread in the summer and somebody objected to that because it wasn't railway related. We both said it was a good place to come and enjoy some footie talk for the period of the World Cup.

Whilst everything in the Angry Thread isn't my cup of tea either, I respect it as a place where people can post about anything they want. I think as a community on here we should have threads like this. If we read them, well that's up to us.

Do agree though, that Toy Town riot has gotten a bit out of hand.

Dan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on December 03, 2014, 01:55:31 PM
OK, I'll haul up the white flag, just got a bit scunnered with all the orifice discussion.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on December 03, 2014, 02:00:04 PM
To be honest if you don't aggree with a post don't follow it I for instance ignore any post about DCC for three reasons
1 I have to many older style Poole built Locos which are difficult to Modify.
2 I can't afford to change.
3 My memory is getting worse by the time I'd remember which loco was which number I'd have crashed.
But Just because I don't like DCC I won't leave the forum I just skip the posts and read what I want to .
What do you do if you don't like a program on TV you change channels or turn off you don't throw the Tele in the skip So let's be sensible and act like grown ups and put up with the odd things you don't like,
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DesertHound on December 03, 2014, 02:04:04 PM
Quote from: Agrippa on December 03, 2014, 01:55:31 PM
OK, I'll haul up the white flag, just got a bit scunnered with all the orifice discussion.

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mr bachmann on December 03, 2014, 03:44:12 PM
Arrrr, dam Slade , every shop you go in  :veryangry:

Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tdm on December 03, 2014, 10:25:13 PM
Quote from: mr bachmann on December 03, 2014, 03:44:12 PM
Arrrr, dam Slade , every shop you go in  :veryangry:
Alan

I'll bet you will still sing along to it after a few drinks at your Xmas Party though - assuming you will be going to a Xmas Party.

The misses says we are holding a Party in our Apartment this Xmas Eve, so I'll have to get out all the Xmas CDs again soon, and will have to stay sober enough to act as DJ for the evening as I do have a decent Hi-Fi system to play them on. Must remember to invite all our near neighbours though so that they can't complain about the noise. Cue for another Slade song - "C'mon feel the noise"
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mr bachmann on December 04, 2014, 04:01:47 PM
Quote from: Tdm on December 03, 2014, 10:25:13 PM
Must remember to invite all our near neighbours though so that they can't complain about the noise. Cue for another Slade song - "C'mon feel the noise"

better one would be "Lock up your daughters"  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Michael Shillabeer on December 05, 2014, 08:10:13 AM
De-icing my car this morning and a windscreen wiper fell off!

Worse still the little plastic piece that holds the blade to the arm disappeared into the darkness :(

Stopped at several petrol stations on the way to work and none of them sell windscreen wipers... I could buy a tall latte poncy coffee, but no wipers!!!

Got to work and it dawned on me, I could have borrowed the piece of plastic from the rear wiper!

Grrr
Michael
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on December 05, 2014, 08:38:28 AM
Quote from: Michael Shillabeer on December 05, 2014, 08:10:13 AM
De-icing my car this morning and a windscreen wiper fell off!

Worse still the little plastic piece that holds the blade to the arm disappeared into the darkness :(

Stopped at several petrol stations on the way to work and none of them sell windscreen wipers... I could buy a tall latte poncy coffee, but no wipers!!!

Got to work and it dawned on me, I could have borrowed the piece of plastic from the rear wiper!

Grrr
Michael

Worse time of the day for that to happen your mind is never in the right place when you need to get somewhere fast.

On Monday I went to work and forgot my butties lol had to turn round and pick them up.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tdm on December 05, 2014, 01:54:49 PM
Quote from: Michael Shillabeer on December 05, 2014, 08:10:13 AM
De-icing my car this morning and a windscreen wiper fell off!
Grrr
Michael

What is Ice? - I though it was what you put in your spirit drinks, and what are windscreen wipers for, other than removing the sand that is sometimes dropped on us that comes from the Sahara Desert?.   :D ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on December 05, 2014, 06:50:38 PM
Ice is that strange stuff that magically disappears when you get in your 13 year old car and switch on the Heated Front Windscreen 8)

Funny but the 24 year old car in the garage has one too - don't all cars have them then? ;D


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mark100 on December 05, 2014, 07:34:39 PM
Quote from: Michael Shillabeer on December 05, 2014, 08:10:13 AM
De-icing my car this morning and a windscreen wiper fell off!

Worse still the little plastic piece that holds the blade to the arm disappeared into the darkness :(

Stopped at several petrol stations on the way to work and none of them sell windscreen wipers... I could buy a tall latte poncy coffee, but no wipers!!!

Got to work and it dawned on me, I could have borrowed the piece of plastic from the rear wiper!

Grrr
Michael
My late Grand Parents, Parents, In law Parents all tell/told me off for throwing hot water over icy windscreens, I've been doing it for over 30 years without a crack appearing or any other problem. then I switch the wipers on and clear the excess away. But whilst my leg is in plaster for a few more weeks, I wont have to worry about Cars or Motor Bikes or Ice.

Mark
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on December 05, 2014, 07:45:42 PM
Just noticed there is 3379 replies to the Angry Thread  :veryangry: and 1933 replies to the Happy Thread  :claphappy: conclusion is there must be a whole lot more angry people out there than happy ones  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on December 05, 2014, 07:55:22 PM
You sound very happy about that ... ... you sure you're in the right thread ?  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mark100 on December 05, 2014, 08:01:12 PM
Quote from: longbridge on December 05, 2014, 07:45:42 PM
Just noticed there is 3379 replies to the Angry Thread  :veryangry: and 1933 replies to the Happy Thread  :claphappy: conclusion is there must be a whole lot more angry people out there than happy ones  :D
And What's with getting Angry in the first place? it doesn't resolve anything, Its best to have a more laid back approach and trying to sort things out amicably and if that doesn't work, the Steel Toe Caps then come out the cupboard.  >:D  :help:


Mark



Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tdm on December 05, 2014, 08:59:40 PM
Quote from: longbridge on December 05, 2014, 07:45:42 PM
Just noticed there is 3379 replies to the Angry Thread  :veryangry: and 1933 replies to the Happy Thread  :claphappy: conclusion is there must be a whole lot more angry people out there than happy ones  :D

Not necessarily so.

When people are angry they tend to make a song and dance about it and want others to know why, whereas when people are happy they tend to quietly enjoy the moment(s) and keep it to themselves.

One example of this is that at our Annual AGM very few people turn up if things are going really well, but if there are problems and charges have to go up, you get a much greater attendance with everyone wanting to voice their concerns.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on December 05, 2014, 09:01:51 PM
QuoteWorse time of the day for that to happen your mind is never in the right place when you need to get somewhere fast.

Yep, I know that to be true. I turned up to work earlier this week with work shoe on right foot and trainer on left.  :-[

It's ok though, I only work in a big engineering office full of understanding folk who would forget about it in a week or so :-[ :-[ :-[

QuoteIce is that strange stuff that magically disappears when you get in your 13 year old car and switch on the Heated Front Windscreen 8)

Funny but the 24 year old car in the garage has one too - don't all cars have them then? ;D

Not all cars sir, just those belonging to the enlightened "blue oval owners" such as us  :thumbsup:

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on December 05, 2014, 09:03:57 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on December 05, 2014, 07:55:22 PM
You sound very happy about that ... ... you sure you're in the right thread ?  :veryangry:

Na Mike I am just Angry that I don't have anything to be Angry about  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on December 05, 2014, 09:12:57 PM
Quote from: Tdm on December 05, 2014, 08:59:40 PM
Quote from: longbridge on December 05, 2014, 07:45:42 PM
Just noticed there is 3379 replies to the Angry Thread  :veryangry: and 1933 replies to the Happy Thread  :claphappy: conclusion is there must be a whole lot more angry people out there than happy ones  :D

Not necessarily so.

When people are angry they tend to make a song and dance about it and want others to know why, whereas when people are happy they tend to quietly enjoy the moment(s) and keep it to themselves.

One example of this is that at our Annual AGM very few people turn up if things are going really well, but if there are problems and charges have to go up, you get a much greater attendance with everyone wanting to voice their concerns.

OK conclusion has been adjusted to "People find replying to Angry people is more fun than replying to Happy people"  :claphappy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on December 07, 2014, 09:50:04 AM
I'm not hugely angry, mainly upset, as the Class 86 I've had for a few years stopped working yesterday.  :(  It's only the third time that it's been on my track, and managed about 6 circuits before it stopped dead and started beeping!  Everything else stopped as well (I'm using DCC).  I disconnected the body and lights, still beeped, tried a different chip, same thing, made sure the bogies were OK.....  I give up for now. :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Michael Shillabeer on December 07, 2014, 10:21:45 AM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on December 05, 2014, 09:01:51 PM
Not all cars sir, just those belonging to the enlightened "blue oval owners" such as us  :thumbsup:

Skyline2uk
The heated windscreen is the only thing I miss from my Mondeo...

Incidentally, Bosch windscreen wipers were cheaper than Halford's own brand.

Best regards
Michael
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on December 07, 2014, 11:17:17 AM
Quote from: Michael Shillabeer on December 05, 2014, 08:10:13 AM

Got to work and it dawned on me, I could have borrowed the piece of plastic from the rear wiper!

Grrr
Michael
Simples....... you should have reversed to work  used the rear wiper to see with  ::) :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on December 08, 2014, 11:16:43 AM
Putting this in angry thread, as we do not have a sad thread. My almost 13 year old spaniel had a heart attack last night, and had to be put to sleep by the emergency vet. Very sad, as she was a full part of the family, and shared her birthday with my mother (both were 90 on Friday, mother in human years, pooch in dog years). Keep looking for her round the house, and when I went to get a newspaper, everyone was asking where she was.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on December 08, 2014, 11:20:27 AM
It is awful when a friend goes like that, I think you will find many on here have suffered in the same way.
I realise it may well be too soon but getting another friend a soon as you feel you can does help enormously and you could give a rescue dog a very special Christmas.

John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: red_death on December 08, 2014, 11:24:13 AM
Quote from: Kipper on December 08, 2014, 11:16:43 AM
Putting this in angry thread, as we do not have a sad thread. My almost 13 year old spaniel had a heart attack last night, and had to be put to sleep by the emergency vet.

Very sorry to hear that Kipper - I lost one of my cats yesterday morning (after a very sudden illness).  She was only 7 and I was looking forward to many more years with her.

I'm absolutely gutted.

Cheers, Mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 08, 2014, 11:47:35 AM
So sorry, Kipper :(
Last year I took in a rescue cat but after just 2 weeks he had a heart attack and I had to have him put to sleep. It's very traumatic when such things occur.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Papyrus on December 08, 2014, 12:06:55 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on December 08, 2014, 11:20:27 AM
It is awful when a friend goes like that, I think you will find many on here have suffered in the same way.
I realise it may well be too soon but getting another friend a soon as you feel you can does help enormously and you could give a rescue dog a very special Christmas.

John.
I have every sympathy with you, my friend. Scotsoft is right - getting another one soon does help. When our old dog died we weren't sure what to do, but 3 weeks later we were asked if we could take an urgent re-home and we've never regretted it. I would wait till after Christmas though. The rescue centres will be full of delightful pups given as Christmas presents by thoughtless idiots who get rid of them the first time they pee on the carpet.

Best wishes,

Chris

PS. Mods - is there any reason we can't have a 'Sad Thread' for people who could do with a bit of long-distance TLC? Just a thought...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on December 08, 2014, 12:41:27 PM
Very sad to lose an elderly pet, I hope she didn't suffer too much. I'm a dog lover
though not an owner and look after my brother's old rescue dog every now and then.
Dogs can be amazing with their personalities, antics and their ability to almost
read your mind. Perhaps in the not too distant future you'll get a new companion
to join the family.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on December 08, 2014, 01:06:13 PM
 :sorrysign: To hear your sad news Kipper we had to put my best friend Buster to sleep as at only 8 years old he got the dog equivalent to Dementure I can't remember the real name ,and he started to bite everyone and he couldn't walk very far he fell down the stairs twice .The vet said it was hereditary and it would only get worse NO cure so no choice as my grandson comes over to see us and he's only 4 so Buster could have bitten him very badly.
I miss him a lot but my wife and daughter came home last Saturday with a gorgeous little puppy they called her Mitzy while I still miss Buster Mitzy is keeping me busy as she isn't house trained yet.I hope you get another friend soon and although you won't forget your old friend you will soon make a new one I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL all the best .
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Greybeema on December 08, 2014, 07:11:43 PM
Sad news indeed Kipper.  It's strange how quickly we become attached to our pets.  In time (and only you will know when) there are always rescues out there that you can make such a difference to their lives.

As I type this I look to our rescue dog who is curled up under my arm snoring her brains out...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on December 08, 2014, 07:15:22 PM
Quote from: Greybeema on December 08, 2014, 07:11:43 PM
Sad news indeed Kipper.  It's strange how quickly we become attached to our pets.  In time (and only you will know when) there are always rescues out there that you can make such a difference to their lives.

As I type this I look to our rescue dog who is curled up under my arm snoring her brains out...

Its very sad when you lose a good furry friend. My rescue greyhound is 11 and is curled up on one of her many beds around the house (folded duvet). She's getting on now but still going strong. Dread the day when she eventually leaves us.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on December 08, 2014, 07:59:23 PM
Sorry to hear about your dog Kipper they give so much love and enjoyment, if only humans were so faithful and loving what a wonderful world we would be living in.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on December 12, 2014, 11:29:34 AM
Why does it always have to be at Christmas time!

2 weeks ago the knob on the Oven broke so no probs I swapped it with a knob on the oven that does not  get used, the next day the indicator light fell out into the oven, no problem I said I will open it up and glue it in place but I can not get to it  :veryangry:,at the weekend the thermostat went in the oven I thought I will pick one up in town this weekend, then was the final straw the Grill stopped working, I have only had the oven for 3 years and this is my second Hotpoint and never another Hotpoint.

Just ordered a German Cooker as a friend has one and they swear by it cos they have had it for 12 years.

Lets hope this one will be OK or the air will be Blue..
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: woodbury22uk on December 12, 2014, 12:26:54 PM
Quote from: Geoff on December 12, 2014, 11:29:34 AM
Why does it always have to be at Christmas time!

2 weeks ago the knob on the Oven broke so no probs I swapped it with a knob on the oven that does not  get used, the next day the indicator light fell out into the oven, no problem I said I will open it up and glue it in place but I can not get to it  :veryangry:,at the weekend the thermostat went in the oven I thought I will pick one up in town this weekend, then was the final straw the Grill stopped working, I have only had the oven for 3 years and this is my second Hotpoint and never another Hotpoint.

Just ordered a German Cooker as a friend has one and they swear by it cos they have had it for 12 years.

Lets hope this one will be OK or the air will be Blue..

Two days after Christmas last year I had the tumble dryer drive belt and the washing machine door seal fail within an hour of each other. The German washing machine was 6 years old, but the Creda tumble dryer had already done 19 years service, so owed me nothing. Went to my local spares place and they said they could not get the parts for 15 days, but could speed it up if they did the repairs at £200 plus parts.  Yeah I thought, I know that game. Found an online supplier for both the parts who delivered before New Year.

Fitting turned out to be a trial for the door seal with much swearing until a drip of olive oil on the mating edge saw everything slip into place. Result. I looked at a few Youtube videos for the tumble dryer drive belt all of which seemed to require major dismantling work with estimates of 30 to 35 minutes to complete. Then I found one which said undo two screws, unclip the front and gently bend it forward. Slip the new belt over the back of the drum and then from underneath stretch it over the drum and drive pulley. It took me less than 5 minutes! Saved the link to the video and downloaded for safe keeping. It would have been sad to lose the tumble dryer which is only 19 years old.

Good luck with your new oven.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on December 12, 2014, 01:37:05 PM
Another long-lived Creda appliance! Our Creda Oven unit is 22 years old and apart from the clock failing and the light unit falling to bits, is still going strong... We have other clocks and seem not to need a light in the oven, so what the hey...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tdm on December 12, 2014, 05:29:16 PM
Talking of long lived appliances, when I was a teenager I plashed out on a decent Hi-Fi system - a Quad 33/303 pre-amp & amp & a pair of Celestion Ditton 40watt speakers plus a Sony turntable.
That was circa 50 years ago now and all this equipment is still performing perfectly here in Tenerife having survived several house moves and regular use, and I still have not heard a better sounding home hi-fi system.

I also still have most of the 45s and LPs I bought to play on it, and they still play O.K., but my old 78s are long gone - and with reference to my Blue Peter badge thread, I think it was a Blue Peter program that suggested heating old unwanted 78s up and moulding them into vases which I did with some of them. I remember most of my 78s where either on the Parlophone, Decca, or London American labels, and wish now I had kept them all.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on December 12, 2014, 05:35:39 PM
Having tipped coffee all over my tv remote, I got one of these universal ones. Managed to pair it with the tv OK, but not all of the buttons are labelled the same as my old one. The instructions only list the pairing method, and codes for all the tv's ever made (almost). I can turn it on and off, and change channels using the number buttons, and adjust volume, but that is it. I cannot use teletext, as it has no "text button", just the coloured ones. Contacted Argos for help but nothing yet. Also cannot work out how to change my input channel, so cannot use the DVD. Thankfully, I will be getting a new tv after Christmas.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on December 12, 2014, 05:38:23 PM
Quad made excellent kit. We used Quad 301 power amps to power LS 5 loudspeakers at one time. Excellent response and fantastic audio quality.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbridge on December 12, 2014, 07:10:01 PM
As an old HiFi buff  since the 1960s its nice to hear that I am not the only one listening to stereo, I am a miserable old git that thinks is I was intended to listen to five speakers I would have five ears, I guess you can tell that I have no interest in what they call surround sound or home theatre, oh well that's my moan for the day  :sleep:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on December 12, 2014, 07:16:42 PM
Quote from: longbridge on December 12, 2014, 07:10:01 PM
As an old HiFi buff  since the 1960s its nice to hear that I am not the only one listening to stereo, I am a miserable old git that thinks is I was intended to listen to five speakers I would have five ears, I guess you can tell that I have no interest in what they call surround sound or home theatre, oh well that's my moan for the day  :sleep:

Absolutely spot on. Its not just the five ears you need its having to live with a house full of spaghetti to connect everything up.

I've got good old British made Rega Planar turntable, Rega Mira 3 and Rega CD player with British designed ( but made in China) Monitor audio speakers.

Makes music a pleasure to listen too and makes the Telly sound like it isn't covered in cotton wool and buried in a cardboard box.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on December 12, 2014, 07:46:26 PM
They build lovely big flat screen TVs that produce great 1080i pictures and fit them with a couple of small oval loudspeakers.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on December 12, 2014, 07:58:11 PM
Quote from: Malc on December 12, 2014, 07:46:26 PM
They build lovely big flat screen TVs that produce great 1080i pictures and fit them with a couple of small oval loudspeakers.

Malc

That's right and those tiny speakers are in an even tinier plastic box in the TV. Makes portable 5 inch transistor radios sound like HiFi - sort of!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on December 12, 2014, 11:02:06 PM
Quote from: Kipper on December 12, 2014, 05:35:39 PM
I cannot use teletext, as it has no "text button", just the coloured ones.

Teletext? I thought they turned that off years ago! Obviously not.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 13, 2014, 03:01:43 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on December 12, 2014, 11:02:06 PM
Quote from: Kipper on December 12, 2014, 05:35:39 PM
I cannot use teletext, as it has no "text button", just the coloured ones.

Teletext? I thought they turned that off years ago! Obviously not.

Still available on Beeb 1 & 2 but nothing on the commercial sides
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mr bachmann on December 13, 2014, 03:18:41 PM
on about speakers and music , had the garage doors open and music at a comfortable level ( :D ) , when the lass over street remarked "it wouldn't be bad if you had the right singer's " ,

by the way it was Heartbeat by Buddy Holly  ,  she must have thought Nick Berry had the hit song !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on December 13, 2014, 08:16:39 PM
Managed to get the tv to switch AV inputs from basic aerial to Panasonic dvd/video box (get a better picture as it "enhances"), and can now use the box remote , which has it all on board. Will return the new remote to Argos and get my pennies back.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 13, 2014, 09:56:08 PM
Result!

Tell 'em it wasn't fit for purpose or they may try and fob you off with a credit note :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on December 21, 2014, 08:31:03 PM
Finally managed to get my automatic uncoupling sequences to work perfectly in Train Controller that allow the loco to uncouple and toddle off to the turntable, turn and shed itself all automatically and then my Fleischmann 9152 turntable decided to stop working.   :veryangry:   :censored:

Been working perfectly for a couple of years and just died, taken the bridge off and had a quick look, can't see anything obvious, anyone any ideas? 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on December 21, 2014, 11:28:04 PM
Check for loose wires first Caz, before you start dismantling anything. Then check the power supply is still working.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on December 22, 2014, 12:08:47 AM
Quote from: austinbob on December 12, 2014, 07:16:42 PM
Quote from: longbridge on December 12, 2014, 07:10:01 PM
As an old HiFi buff  since the 1960s its nice to hear that I am not the only one listening to stereo, I am a miserable old git

Absolutely spot on.  makes the Telly sound like it isn't covered in cotton wool and buried in a cardboard box.

Spot on, agree with you both (including the old git bit ! :) )

There was a time when one could build a tuner to pick off the FM audio
either from the on-air multipexed signal (needed a pretty stable LO ) or from the  6MHz sub-carrier at the baseband dectector,
and feed it into one's hifi system,  ,
( not only could you hear David A's commentary, you could hear the sound of the camera man's boots in the grass :) )
Sadly long gone after the switch-off to digital :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on December 22, 2014, 12:30:53 AM
This is beginning to sound like pages from Practical Wireless. I don't know if they still do it ,
bit when a ham died they had a column headed "Silent Keys" followed by Joe Croak
G5X32 is dead. Always thought it was a bit daft.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on December 22, 2014, 12:46:09 AM
Quote from: Agrippa on December 22, 2014, 12:30:53 AM
Practical Wireless.
I don't know if they still do it
,

bit when a ham
,
"Silent Keys"

You mean Practically Witless.
There were no 'Hams' in England ( or Britain for that matter, maybe even the Empire, only in that ex-colony over the pond)
Keys was a term of respect,  is a ref. to real amateur radio wot used Morse code and CW, , ,  even if the dead op. only ever used phone !





Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on December 22, 2014, 08:40:44 AM
Tony Hancock was a ham and he lived in Railway Cuttings , East Cheam!

Broadsword signing off!

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 22, 2014, 10:13:28 AM
Quote from: Agrippa on December 22, 2014, 08:40:44 AM
Tony Hancock was a ham and he lived in Railway Cuttings , East Cheam!

Broadsword signing off!

Thanks Danny Boy ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on December 22, 2014, 10:19:30 AM
Quote from: Agrippa on December 22, 2014, 12:30:53 AM
This is beginning to sound like pages from Practical Wireless. I don't know if they still do it ,
bit when a ham died they had a column headed "Silent Keys" followed by Joe Croak
G5X32 is dead. Always thought it was a bit daft.
The Radio Society of Great Britain publish a mag called Radcom. They publish the Silent Key list. I check it once in a while to make sure I'm not in it!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on December 22, 2014, 11:05:00 AM
Maybe a need for dead rail modellers list, silent sidings or
hit the buffers... :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on December 22, 2014, 11:52:52 AM
Or "End of the line"
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 22, 2014, 12:39:55 PM
The Final Terminus :dighole:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on December 22, 2014, 12:57:47 PM
Or as could be seen on the side of a loco/coach/wagon:

Withdrawn from service
Condemned
To be cut up
Do not move
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tdm on December 22, 2014, 01:16:13 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on December 22, 2014, 11:52:52 AM
Or "End of the line"

One of my favourite music tracks by The Traveling Wilburys, and Roy Orbison died whilst it was being recorded but the rest of the group decided to finish it as a tribute - and if you have the DVD "The making of the Traveling Wilburys" the track has a very poignent ending.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on December 22, 2014, 01:59:25 PM
"Ran out of steam"
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on December 22, 2014, 02:26:01 PM
Sadly taken by The Grim Reaper's   Beeching's scythe
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on December 24, 2014, 12:45:46 PM
I've been with Virgin Media since before they took over ntlworld and have mostly been quite happy with them.
I have a fibre optic broadband and 24/7 phone call package and my bill is usually around £30.00 per month.

I've just had a letter to say that in February my bill will go up by £5.64,that's nearly a twenty percent increase.

Still I suppose it's okay to make people on a pension contribute to Mr Bransons next space project.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 24, 2014, 01:30:38 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on December 24, 2014, 12:45:46 PM

Still I suppose it's okay to make people on a pension contribute to Mr Bransons next space project.

Allan

He'd make a lot more people happy if he put this increase towards an N gauge Pendolino ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on December 24, 2014, 02:27:57 PM
"Become Ballast"
"Gone the 6foot way"
"Ashes to ashes" (only if s/he was born in the steam era ?)


Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mark100 on December 24, 2014, 03:47:25 PM
We had someone message us last night stating that my Dad had painted a loco in the incorrect livery and sent us photos of a Heljan DP2 IN 2 tone green only for us to Google it this morning and find that Heljan where wrong and had used Sherwood green on the sole bar.
I've spent at least an hour trying to find somewhere with decent daylight to rephotograph it whilst dragging a leg in plaster around to.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DesertHound on January 02, 2015, 01:24:45 PM
Went to a Marks & Spencers' Café (yes, Marks & Spencers) here in Dubai this afternoon for my favourite Scottish salmon and cream cheese bagel. Was very much looking forward to it since I haven't had one for a while.

Get to the counter and ask for my Scottish salmon and cream cheese bagle, almost drooling at the thought of it. Response was that they had no bagels left. No problem I replied, stick the salmon in a length of baguette (since half of the menu involved baguettes). Response was "sorry Sir, I cannot do that".

It would have been hilarious if it hadn't of been so infuriating.

:headbutt: :headbutt: :headbutt:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on January 04, 2015, 11:53:23 AM
 :( Gave in and started a course of steroids this morning to help with my breathing. Fed up with gasping for air 24/7 again so a quick course of tabs. should sort me out for a while   >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 04, 2015, 11:58:45 AM
Quote from: jonclox on January 04, 2015, 11:53:23 AM
:( Gave in and started a course of steroids this morning to help with my breathing. Fed up with gasping for air 27/7 again so a quick course of tabs. should sort me out for a while   >:(

It must be even more worrying for you to have 3 extra hours in the day than the rest of us then, Jon :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on January 04, 2015, 12:13:43 PM
More time for modelling though  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on January 04, 2015, 02:49:19 PM
 
Quote from: newportnobby on January 04, 2015, 11:58:45 AM
Quote from: jonclox on January 04, 2015, 11:53:23 AM
:( Gave in and started a course of steroids this morning to help with my breathing. Fed up with gasping for air 27/7 again so a quick course of tabs. should sort me out for a while   >:(

It must be even more worrying for you to have 3 extra hours in the day than the rest of us then, Jon :doh:
:doh: I blame the tablets  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: sparky on January 04, 2015, 04:25:22 PM
Not posted on the angry thread as normally don't feel angry......just wanted to share my Xmas experience... We have a lovely Xmas tree with built in fairy lights....this year it eat up my remaining stock of spare bulbs and being a B&Q tree of some 10 years old I popped into the local branch to secure some spares...at the customer service desk a spotty oik told me "we don't sell em anymore as modern trees are all led or fibre optic"... peasant !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on January 04, 2015, 04:31:25 PM
Quote from: sparky on January 04, 2015, 04:25:22 PM
Not posted on the angry thread as normally don't feel angry......just wanted to share my Xmas experience... We have a lovely Xmas tree with built in fairy lights....this year it eat up my remaining stock of spare bulbs and being a B&Q tree of some 10 years old I popped into the local branch to secure some spares...at the customer service desk a spotty oik told me "we don't sell em anymore as modern trees are all led or fibre optic"... peasant !

Now is your chance to update your tree and add some LED lights, there must be some going cheap in the sales somewhere, plus you could attach them to the branches before taking it down, then you are all ready for next year  :thumbsup:

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on January 04, 2015, 04:50:10 PM
I thought trees with fairy lights had died out years ago, but then I don't bother
with Xmas decs too much. Poundshops were selling strings of leds on a wire
so these must be fairly common.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on January 04, 2015, 05:07:51 PM
Not angry now, but posting as have calmed down and not likely to post any unacceptable words or phrases...

Went to the Post Office on New Years' Eve to post off a package containing a couple of GUVs to a fellow member on the Facebook N'Porium group.

At 14:20, asked to send off package 1st Class, Signed For and was informed 'You know that last post has gone, don't you?' My reply (forcefully) 'No!'. Got them to send it off, and declined to pay for Guaranteed Delivery, which would get there 'on Monday'. My point that 1st Class in Friday's post should get there Saturday was roundly talked down and was informed that the quickest and only way to get parcel to its destination on Monday was to use 'Guaranteed Delivery' - at extra cost, of course!

On Saturday, had a PM from recipient saying that package had arrived safely.

So after being subjected to a bit of misleading information and attempted extortion on behalf of the Royal Mail, is it any wonder that I am looking for other means of sending parcels to people...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on January 06, 2015, 04:20:35 PM
 >:( Forum sites that keep going down for maintenance just after Ive started drafting a new thread.
Lost one thread twice today between drafting and posting.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Blillpers on January 06, 2015, 08:24:31 PM
Sweden's post services. Having a package sent from a Swedish model railway store to me takes twice the time it takes to have stuff from England delivered. Also, for some godforsaken reason the main Swedish supplier of model railway stuff is located as far north as it is humanly possible to get in this country, which makes deliveries even slower. Hopefully my Swedish stuff (ordered last thursday) and my things from Hatton's (ordered yesterday) should both arrive tomorrow.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on January 06, 2015, 11:23:37 PM
Quote from: jonclox on January 06, 2015, 04:20:35 PM
>:( Forum sites that keep going down for maintenance just after Ive started drafting a new thread.
Lost one thread twice today between drafting and posting.

In that case we should expect a composition of perfection worthy of a Booker nomination  :D

If I am going to be typing a lengthy tomb, I usually type it out in Word.  Then when satisfied with my efforts, I cut and paste it  :thumbsup:

:NGaugersRule:

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on January 07, 2015, 09:20:25 AM
Kenwood & Amazon "customer care"  :veryangry:

Just before Christmas, SWMBO's KMix failed (16 month old) - nothing at all happening when the power is turned on ...  Checked with Amazon - "you've had it too long, :censored: off" was the reply (well, maybe more polite, but that's what they meant ...)  and then emailed Kenwood (as they don't like giving out a Customer Support phone number) - "we might look at your mail in 5 working days" came back ...  So - one annoyed SWMBO not having her KMix to help out for Christmas !

New Year comes, as does an email from Kenwood - "we still haven't bothered reading your mail, maybe in another week or so" ...  :censored: that, I said, & I hunted a number !  No answer ... ...

So yesterday I told SWMBO to call the buggers early, and we got through (eventually ...).  "Oh not heard of that one before ... but because you bought through Amazon & not somewhere like John Lewis, we only give 12 months instead of 5 years" ...  :veryangry:  :veryangry:  :veryangry:

:censored: this, says I & calls Which!; one of their legal bods calls back a few minutes later, & we now have a registered letter off to Amazon telling them they are in breach of the Sale of Goods Act with a registered copy off to the credit card company, telling them we hold them jointly liable !

We'll see what comes out ...  All we want is the  :censored: thing fixed !!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on January 07, 2015, 09:35:53 AM
Love all the Christmas cheer. Isn't it great it's all done with!

We've got all the back to school ads in the junk mail here, (being summer hols).... doesn't bother me but it sure as heck gets Mrs B annoyed as she still teaches full time.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 07, 2015, 10:39:37 AM
Not sure, but I reckon Mike's post qualifies as the one with the most red smilies ever to grace the Angry Thread :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on January 07, 2015, 10:58:13 AM
WOO HOO !!!  :D

Oops, sorry - that should be in the Happy Thread   ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on January 08, 2015, 01:26:49 AM
I Sky plussed that programme called "Too fat to work" and watched it earlier. I wish I hadn't as it has made me very angry! I haven't worked for almost 3 months now due to only being on short term contracts previously. I have applied for dozens of jobs but have been unsuccessful so far. I have claimed Job Seekers Allowance (JSA) during this time but have been told this will end after 3 months and I can claim nothing as my wife works. I have a mortgage, bills etc and don't expect those to be paid for me but after working for more than 30 years I feel the government could help a little by continuing to pay JSA especially as I can prove I have looked for, applied for, been interviewed for jobs etc. How is it that if I lived in social housing or was single and had never worked they would pay my rent and various other things for me? I will get absolutely nothing from February if I am still unemployed. The system is definitely very wrong when this clinically obese pair don't/won't work and can afford to live like they do!
Rant over for now.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on January 08, 2015, 09:36:54 AM
I agree with you Trainfish 8 years ago I was stitched up by someone at work I was given tasks to do which were beyond my job description and above my capability it was to do with computers any way I got the push .
I filled in all the forms and went to Job seekers ,the first week I received the grand sum of £52-14 During that week I found and was accepted in a new job I went back to the job Center to tell them I was starting a new job next week and was told I would get a letter in the post ,when it arrived they wanted the £52-14 back I was so angry I actually wrote  :censored: across the form and sent it back. Never heard another word now I get my state pension in full which I'm entitled to having worked since I left school at 16 .
How is it as you say that some lazy  :censored: who don't won't work are getting everything for free I think they should be made to clean the streets ,wash graphiti of walls and pick up chewing gum of the paths Etc it makes my blood boil when decent honest people get treated so bad and skivers get every thing. rant over I hope you get sorted in a new job soon good luck.
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on January 08, 2015, 10:05:37 AM
There is something seriously wrong with the system, I have worked all my life and I am not on a good wage, I have not had a wage rise now for over 5 years, yet these people get £2k a month for doing nothing they get £650 a month more than I get, and if I go sick I would have to pay out of my own coffers so I am unable to go sick. I will be unable to retire when I am 65 and will need to work until I am 70, never had a government job so maybe went down the wrong lines, my private pension will pay a pittance of about £200 per month.  :veryangry:

Maybe I should just pack it all in and live on the state.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on January 08, 2015, 10:09:59 AM
Quote from: Bob Tidbury on January 08, 2015, 09:36:54 AM
How is it as you say that some lazy  :censored: who don't won't work are getting everything for free I think they should be made to clean the streets ,wash graphiti of walls and pick up chewing gum of the paths
Bob

The reason this doesn't happen , (though it may in some places ) is probably
because these people would require supervision, phone a sickie every day,
not go out in the rain, invoke human rights about degrading work etc  .
Perhaps if we adopted a Jap type system, no work - no eat  things would
change.

Re jobcentres these are a waste of space, when I was made redundant from my
job as an accountant a few years ago I went to the jobcentre, where  I was
interviewed. On learning my previous job the clerk did the sharp intake of breath
as if I was an unemployed astronaut or brain surgeon.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on January 08, 2015, 11:38:09 AM
Yes, jobcentres are a waste of time unless you want to stack shelves in Tesco. Unfortunately to receive your £72 per week you have to go there and prove you are looking for work. By the way there's nothing wrong with stacking shelves in Tesco if that's all you want/need to do. All of my leads come via employment agencies and I've just been invited for another interview on Monday  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on January 08, 2015, 11:52:26 AM
Good luck mate!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on January 08, 2015, 12:46:28 PM
You could try what my son did. He'd be out of work for some time, he started claiming benefits but quickly became disillusioned with the
job centres, asked my wife and I if we could support him (he lives with us) and we agreed & he signed off.

Getting to the point, he fired off an email at about 1.40am on a Sunday morning to Gillingham Marina asking if they had any vacancies.
He received a reply asking him to 'pop in' on the following Tuesday afternoon for a chat. Apart from antifouling (really messy job) members
boats at the local yacht club he's had no experience or training. He started work the following Monday @ £6.50 per hour. So far, any job he's
been asked to do he has used common sense and only once or twice shown a different way. He's just started his second year and is now earning
£12.50 per hour.
All in all as he say's 'not bad for an email and no training or qualifications'  :claphappy: :claphappy:

Just goes to show that the jobs are out there, all you need do is ask :thumbsup:

Wishing you all the best in your search for employment.

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on January 09, 2015, 09:04:32 AM
Quote from: Agrippa on January 08, 2015, 10:09:59 AMThe reason this doesn't happen , (though it may in some places ) is probably
because these people would require supervision, phone a sickie every day,
not go out in the rain, invoke human rights about degrading work etc  .
Perhaps if we adopted a Jap type system, no work - no eat  things would
change.

Umm, no work here means you'll be on unemployment benefits for quite a few months at a proportion of your former earnings (not sure on the exact details but it's nothing to sneeze at). Once that runs out and you've burnt through any savings down to a certain level, social security kicks in, which is probably not much so fun (especially for non-citizens who have no automatic right to it), but social darwinism it ain't. Enough stories of people scamming the system (partly paid through my taxes even though I can't benefit from it) to make me  :veryangry: too.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ozzie Bill. on January 09, 2015, 08:57:34 PM
Referring to Roger's post. What your son has done is very praiseworthy and I admire his willingness and enthusiasm. However, there are often unseen barriers that preclude others from the same path. 1) would be that there are a limited number of jobs of that ilk, available on the "email at 01.40" system. 2) is very definitely age. In Aus (and UK from my understanding) once you are past a certain age, around 55, if you lose your job, you are VERY unlikely to be offered a new job, unless you have a highly specialised or sought after skill. 3) age would preclude many of us from taking some jobs, particularly those as physical as the one referred to by Roger. 4) if age didn't, then many older folk have certain infirmities which make such employment either difficult or risky (or both)
And yes, I am an older man, recently put on the scrap heap and told by a mate in an employment agency that I had better get used to being unemployed as I will never find more work. I have been lucky and have got some sessional teaching at Uni and TAFE (Tech college) and I have also retrained as an aged and disability care worker, an industry desperate for workers. But the physical toll on me of doing that job is big, and makes it tough for anyone to do it full time. Most of my colleagues are young to middle aged and most only work part-time, due to the physical nature of the job. BTW, I am not an office softie, having started working life as a farm labourer and then a truck driver. I have remained in reasonably good shape and have always led a healthy, physical life, so I am used to physical labour.
cheers, Bill.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 15, 2015, 09:01:53 PM
Tired.

Did we have some sort of festival recently? Did that not involve time off? Honestly as I sit here with the rain thumping against the windows and wing roaring like I am in the middle of  :censored: Atlantic, I can't believe I have only done 9 days of work this year.

It seems like there was no break at all, just stood up from the desk, went away and ate some Turkey and sat right back down at the desk with the only difference being a slightly more pressing workload. Its the same old e-mails, phone calls, "Webex" meetings, meeting meetings (more often than not resiting the urge to throttle the git opposite me who sits there and says bold a brass and says that despite saying 2 weeks ago that milestone would be reached by now, he needs another week) and frustration. I can only be glad I am not an actual project manager, but then again I get shot for being the messenger anyway.

Ok I know many people do much more difficult work than I do, and they had far less time off than me. But just now as my eyes sting and the aforementioned rain slowly penetrates my not-so watertight house (yep, another leak  :thumbsdown:) I want a rant.

Oh look, there was a rant.

Skyline2uk 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on January 15, 2015, 09:12:56 PM
I know what you mean about the meetings and timescales, but as an ex project manager, I do sympathise with the guy who has your hands around his windpipe. You do the Gant chart, do the critical path analysis, set all the way points and milestones, allowing some slack. Then some Herbert of a supplier can't supply what he promised he would, at the time he said he could, and you're banjaxed. Glad to be retired and out of all the hassle.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 15, 2015, 09:28:07 PM
QuoteI know what you mean about the meetings and timescales, but as an ex project manager, I do sympathise with the guy who has your hands around his windpipe.

I do see your point, I really do. But its the same supplier who has done the same thing repeated and an many respects getting worse, over and over again. The manager just does not seem to know this and build in required slack. I would be delighted if he came to me and said "yeah that thing I said needed 4 weeks, its done in 3"

Anyway, I don't throttle the guy, I just make jokes about replacing him with a tape player......

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on January 15, 2015, 09:41:22 PM
Working on a large project myself ... every team is pulling their own weight except one - Comms, and they dumped a contractor on us ...  :doh:

Worst one I've worked with in an age ...  :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on January 16, 2015, 09:35:51 PM
 :censored: doctors. Got more scans tomorrow, also back on the Amoxicillin 500 pills. Can't take the steroid pills to help the breathing because they react with some other pills I'm on.
Jonclox know how you feel.  My repeat prescriptions are now totaling 10 items.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on January 17, 2015, 11:11:51 AM
Quote from: Oldman on January 16, 2015, 09:35:51 PM
:censored: doctors. Got more scans tomorrow, also back on the Amoxicillin 500 pills. Can't take the steroid pills to help the breathing because they react with some other pills I'm on.
Jonclox know how you feel.  My repeat prescriptions are now totaling 10 items.
Ouch  :( and yes I know exactly how you feel. Just finished a week on steroids myself and they work for me (short term) without to much conflicting reaction. I guess Im on about ten items via repeat each month. Wife threatened to put the whole lot in the blender and just give me a spoonful each mealtime  :worried: Hope you manage to get things on the right track and balance soon
My theory is that if I can get through Jan and Feb each year I stand a chance of better things to come  :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on January 19, 2015, 04:30:43 PM
Just took the front pony wheel off my Fairburn to adjust the spring underneath and check B2B measurement and dropped the tiny washer onto /into the carpet.  Chances of finding it .......less than zero.  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on January 19, 2015, 04:54:11 PM
Walk around in bare feet - that how I find the  :censored: track pins that 'escape' from the layout...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on January 19, 2015, 06:21:26 PM
Quote from: jonclox on January 19, 2015, 04:30:43 PM
Just took the front pony wheel off my Fairburn to adjust the spring underneath and check B2B measurement and dropped the tiny washer onto /into the carpet.  Chances of finding it .......less than zero.  >:(
I have a LED light with a strong magnetic base that I use to find metal objects on the carpet.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ChrisWV10 on January 20, 2015, 09:12:33 PM
My Farish Voyager made several loud clicks with pronounced jumping then stopped dead with the motor still buzzing. Would this be split gears?

Not a happy bunny  :>:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on January 23, 2015, 01:16:04 PM
Well, it turns out it's going to cost me the better part of 200 quid to register the Squidlet with the UK authorities.

This is why we can't have nice things, such as a Pendolino pre-order.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on January 23, 2015, 09:00:46 PM
Currys delivered a new washing machine but, as it is hard wired into the wall, rather than a 3 pin plug, they will not install. So, had to do it myself, which involved grovelling under the work top, cutting off plug and then fitting wires into terminal block on the wall plate, screwing on water pipe and threading waste pipe through hole in cabinet side, and then trying to get out of resulting 2 inch gap!! (Well, wider than that, but ruddy tight). All worked afterwards, so have some clean clothes now!
Someone from down the road has been round, drinking my beer, and commented that I had broken the law, and should have got an electrician in to do the wiring into the wall plate thing. Hmmm, should I be worried, or should I fork out another hundred notes to get a man in to do it, and give me a bit of paper to prove it is safe?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on January 23, 2015, 09:09:00 PM
Quote from: Kipper on January 23, 2015, 09:00:46 PM
Currys delivered a new washing machine but, as it is hard wired into the wall, rather than a 3 pin plug, they will not install. So, had to do it myself, which involved grovelling under the work top, cutting off plug and then fitting wires into terminal block on the wall plate, screwing on water pipe and threading waste pipe through hole in cabinet side, and then trying to get out of resulting 2 inch gap!! (Well, wider than that, but ruddy tight). All worked afterwards, so have some clean clothes now!
Someone from down the road has been round, drinking my beer, and commented that I had broken the law, and should have got an electrician in to do the wiring into the wall plate thing. Hmmm, should I be worried, or should I fork out another hundred notes to get a man in to do it, and give me a bit of paper to prove it is safe?

The beer swigging bloke is right but if you have done it yourself and you can live with it whats the problem.  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on January 23, 2015, 09:26:08 PM
Quote from: Geoff on January 23, 2015, 09:09:00 PM
Quote from: Kipper on January 23, 2015, 09:00:46 PM
Currys delivered a new washing machine but, as it is hard wired into the wall, rather than a 3 pin plug, they will not install. So, had to do it myself, which involved grovelling under the work top, cutting off plug and then fitting wires into terminal block on the wall plate, screwing on water pipe and threading waste pipe through hole in cabinet side, and then trying to get out of resulting 2 inch gap!! (Well, wider than that, but ruddy tight). All worked afterwards, so have some clean clothes now!
Someone from down the road has been round, drinking my beer, and commented that I had broken the law, and should have got an electrician in to do the wiring into the wall plate thing. Hmmm, should I be worried, or should I fork out another hundred notes to get a man in to do it, and give me a bit of paper to prove it is safe?

The beer swigging bloke is right but if you have done it yourself and you can live with it whats the problem.  ;)

Most things in our 'new' house are being certified.

I'm told I will be next!  :wave:  :P

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on January 23, 2015, 09:29:29 PM
I'm not certain as AFAIK the regs refer to fixed wiring. The flex, I don't think is fixed.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on January 24, 2015, 08:51:23 AM
I am confused, especially as you do things in your own house, without thinking (I was not wearing a hard hat or hi-vis jacket either!). See what you mean about fixed wiring v flex. I usually get the ceiling lights fitted by a sparky, as my balance is not good, and i cannot fix them above my head. Never got a certificate from them though. Still, job done now - and the new Samsung Ecobubble  washers are brilliant (other washing machines are available).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on January 24, 2015, 09:47:57 AM
Quote from: Kipper on January 24, 2015, 08:51:23 AM
and the new Samsung Ecobubble  washers are brilliant (other washing machines are available).

Until they go wrong. Our Samsung Ecobubble is 11 months old and we have been waiting
since the middle of October for a spare part.

In the meantime we have bought another washing machine and have made a claim for a
refund on the grounds of 'Not fit for purpose'.

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on January 27, 2015, 08:18:28 PM
Oops!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Stewart_Dickin on January 28, 2015, 09:58:11 PM
Does anybody have any experience with Dapol Service agents DCC supplies?
I have submitted two "tickets" through their website, the only reply being
an automated EMail response to acknowledge receipt of message.
First ticket submitted in September 2014 2nd Ticket last week.
The more recent ticket is urgent as the model is days off its 6 month
warranty expiration.
I am most annoyed at being ignored as one of my locos is useless,
was expensive and had little use.
I live in Australia so I can't pop over to the shop to prod them and will be even more
annoyed if I have to make an expensive international call to get them
moving.
I had a similar motor failure with Farish once. They dispatched a replacement
motor at my request with no fuss, expense or delay.

Now that I've finished venting,
I would like to hear the experience other customers have had with the Dapol Warranty
service at DCC Supplies.

Stew :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tdm on January 28, 2015, 10:09:00 PM
My limited experience with them is just the opposite of yours.

I contacted them recently about purchasing new bogies for a Class 73 I had bought at a Train Fair in the U.K. back in December 2013 and for which I had no paperwork.

They emailed back to say they would send me 2 replacement bogies at no cost,
and these arrived in Tenerife yesterday.

Can't complain about that.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on January 28, 2015, 10:11:24 PM
Quote from: Stewart_Dickin on January 28, 2015, 09:58:11 PM
Does anybody have any experience with Dapol Service agents DCC supplies?
I have submitted two "tickets" through their website, the only reply being
an automated EMail response to acknowledge receipt of message.
First ticket submitted in September 2014 2nd Ticket last week.
The more recent ticket is urgent as the model is days off its 6 month
warranty expiration.
I am most annoyed at being ignored as one of my locos is useless,
was expensive and had little use.
I live in Australia so I can't pop over to the shop to prod them and will be even more
annoyed if I have to make an expensive international call to get them
moving.
I had a similar motor failure with Farish once. They dispatched a replacement
motor at my request with no fuss, expense or delay.

Now that I've finished venting,
I would like to hear the experience other customers have had with the Dapol Warranty
service at DCC Supplies.

Stew :veryangry:

I had a problem with a class 22 diesel and sent Dapol an email asking what I should do to return the loco for replacement or repair. That was a couple of months ago. No acknowledgement - no response - nothing!!. I didn't contact DCC supplies but I would have thought that Dapol would have at least asked me to contact them if they do the repairs.
In any event the sale of goods act says it is the retailers responsibility to repair, replace, refund for faulty product. In this case I bought the product direct from Dapol so it is their responsibility to sort out any problems. So why didn't I get a response from them?

Their customer service is just as poor as the quality of some of their products. - Not impressed!!!
Fortunately after several  hours of running in the loco is just about useable but still has faults. Not worth the hassle of chasing Dapol to resolve the problem.
:veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mickeyflinn on January 28, 2015, 10:34:17 PM
I have some recent experience with DCC Supplies;

1. Green class 22 from the milk tanker set, bought directly from Dapol in December - it died a couple of weeks ago, contacted Dapol by phone who asked me to contact DCC Supplies. Phoned them, and was e-mailed a free-post returns label almost immediately. This has now been repaired and on it's way back to me (will report on quality of the repair when I get the loco back).

2. Ordered a centre wheel set for my A4 'Wild Swan' as the quartering was out on one of the wheels. Managed to rotate the affected wheel almost into its correct position very shortly after ordering the part, so submitted a 'ticket' asking them to cancel the order. This was acknowledged within a few hours and the order was cancelled. Now here comes the problem - I am still waiting for my Paypal refund 2 weeks later; contacted them asking where my refund was, 'can take up to 10 working days' was the reply. I've already contacted Paypal and started a dispute because I don't see why the refund shouldn't be automatic when an order is cancelled.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GeeBee on January 28, 2015, 11:53:47 PM
Just spent the last 5 days feeling like death warmed up finally got through to Doctors to be informed there is a virus going the rounds, the district matron turned up to take my weekly results took one look at both myself and Pam called for a doctor who promptly diagnosed severe chest infections result both of us on Antibiotics and Steriods no work on the railway for at least a fortnight
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Stewart_Dickin on January 29, 2015, 02:12:06 AM
Thanks for the replies guys,

Score for Dapol Warranty Service gauged from replies so far

50% Bad
25% neutral
25% good

I would say not a good score so far Dapol
its such a shame, producing models that look great is awesome
but they need to work as well.
Arguably this may be more important than the looks.



Stew
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on January 29, 2015, 02:20:53 AM
As in the Union Mills philosophy.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Stewart_Dickin on January 29, 2015, 02:47:30 AM
Quote from: Bealman on January 29, 2015, 02:20:53 AM
As in the Union Mills philosophy.


Maybe I could put dapol bodys on Mills mechanism and
get the best of both worlds.

I'm still keeping score and judge Bealman's post as anti Dapol

The Dapol Shame or Fame Chart

-  %60
= %20
+ %20

It will be interesting to see how this progresses but
in all fairness everyone loves to complain but rarely offers praise.
I might have to start a new thread maybe

The           Dapol Zum Appell ,, Line up and account for yourself Dapol. >:D
bow to the pressure of your life giving customers. :laugh:

Stew
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on January 29, 2015, 03:47:43 AM
I actually own only one Dapol locomotive - a kettle, and am quite happy with it, but admit that one loco is hardly a statistically valid sample!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Stewart_Dickin on January 29, 2015, 03:59:52 AM
Quote from: Bealman on January 29, 2015, 03:47:43 AM
I actually own only one Dapol locomotive - a kettle, and am quite happy with it, but admit that one loco is hardly a statistically valid sample!!

Sorry to sound like a dummy but which one is the Kettle ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on January 29, 2015, 05:43:39 AM
The term refers to any steam locomotive and is often used by forum members. My one Dapol loco is an LNER B1 and it runs smooth as silk.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jonny on January 29, 2015, 07:09:20 AM
Quote from: mickeyflinn on January 28, 2015, 10:34:17 PM
I have some recent experience with DCC Supplies;

1. Green class 22 from the milk tanker set, bought directly from Dapol in December - it died a couple of weeks ago, contacted Dapol by phone who asked me to contact DCC Supplies. Phoned them, and was e-mailed a free-post returns label almost immediately. This has now been repaired and on it's way back to me (will report on quality of the repair when I get the loco back).

2. Ordered a centre wheel set for my A4 'Wild Swan' as the quartering was out on one of the wheels. Managed to rotate the affected wheel almost into its correct position very shortly after ordering the part, so submitted a 'ticket' asking them to cancel the order. This was acknowledged within a few hours and the order was cancelled. Now here comes the problem - I am still waiting for my Paypal refund 2 weeks later; contacted them asking where my refund was, 'can take up to 10 working days' was the reply. I've already contacted Paypal and started a dispute because I don't see why the refund shouldn't be automatic when an order is cancelled.

I agree there.  In this day and age it should be instant.


My father had an A4 repaired by dccsupplies. (rivet broke on valve gear)Lets just say a two year old wielding a hammer could of done a better job.It only got sent back to them because it was still in warranty. 

Jonny.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Stewart_Dickin on January 29, 2015, 08:02:01 AM
I sent DCC Supplies another message about my unanswered "tickets"
Now I have a Ticket number for my unanswered Ticket number inquiry.
Clasic  :laughabovepost:

Stew
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on January 29, 2015, 08:32:11 AM
Quote from: Stewart_Dickin on January 29, 2015, 08:02:01 AM
I sent DCC Supplies another message about my unanswered "tickets"
Now I have a Ticket number for my unanswered Ticket number inquiry.
Clasic  :laughabovepost:

Stew

A bit like the message I got from Windows once: "An error occurred while processing a previous error..."
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tdm on January 29, 2015, 12:13:45 PM
Quote from: GeeBee on January 28, 2015, 11:53:47 PM
Just spent the last 5 days feeling like death warmed up finally got through to Doctors to be informed there is a virus going the rounds, the district matron turned up to take my weekly results took one look at both myself and Pam called for a doctor who promptly diagnosed severe chest infections result both of us on Antibiotics and Steriods no work on the railway for at least a fortnight

I know how you feel and hope you get better soon.
Could well be the same virus that found it's way down to Essex when we were there a couple of weeks ago as the misses and I are still not right nowwe are back in Tenerife, and the misses too is on steroids and anti-biotics, but for some reason the Doctor gave me anti-histamines instead of anti-biotics (which haven't worked) so going back to see regular Doctor again this afternoon as it was a stand-in we saw last time as our own Doctor was ill!

Can't blame the Health Service here as you get appointments next day without a problem at a time of your own choosing, what I am not happy about is that every time we visit the U.K. we always seem to pick something up that makes us ill on our return, but I think it is the Aircraft that are at fault as they are just recycling germs all the time.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tom U on January 29, 2015, 12:34:16 PM
Sorry to hear of your ongoing problems, best wishes that you both get back to good health soon.
If the infectionis really a virus, I am not surprised that anti-biotics are not working...anti biotics don't work on viruses!!

To be fair to airlines (and aircraft designers), any location where a large number of people are huddled in close proximity is going to be a "bug" transmission opportunity.  Modern airliners have to recirculate a certain percentage of the cabin air, but they have a high flow air circulation system that routes the air through large HEPA filters that are serviced and changed regularly.

Just a personal note - 3 or so years ago I returned home to Chiang Mai from my annual visit to UK, and after a day or so was feeling very rough, so went to see the doctor.  Some tests were done and it was found I had typhoid!!  Now as I am certain that my son and his family are not typhoid carriers (!) I can only assume I picked it up in the LHR lounge or on the aircraft.

Tom U.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: FeelixTC on January 29, 2015, 01:00:20 PM
Quote from: Tom U on January 29, 2015, 12:34:16 PM
To be fair to airlines (and aircraft designers), any location where a large number of people are huddled in close proximity is going to be a "bug" transmission opportunity.  Modern airliners have to recirculate a certain percentage of the cabin air, but they have a high flow air circulation system that routes the air through large HEPA filters that are serviced and changed regularly.


The quality of air on planes is much poorer now that they are non-smoking. True story.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tom U on January 29, 2015, 01:33:24 PM
Felix, I have to disagree with you there, but in the interest of not further derailing Bob's Dapol thread,  I think I should not pusue it here.  It would be interesting to take this topic to a new thread as we have quite a few aviation folk on here (Desert Hound and B767 come to mind) and the public perception vs industry input would be illuminating.
Cheers,
Tom.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: FeelixTC on January 29, 2015, 01:36:34 PM
Quote from: Tom U on January 29, 2015, 01:33:24 PM
......I think I should not pusue it here........

I think you'll find you just did!  :scowl:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on January 30, 2015, 01:47:13 PM
 :veryangry:  :veryangry:  :veryangry:

Just popped out for a few minutes to get a paper - the postman visited while I was out and left a card saying I have a delivery - the only thing I'm waiting for at the moment is a parcel of Maunsells from Kernow. Was he waiting round the corner for me to go out???? Can't get the parcel until tomorrow now!

:veryangry:  :veryangry:  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on January 30, 2015, 03:57:26 PM
I was expecting my City of Birmingham from Hattons before Xmas and got a similar card, but about excess postage. When we got to the post office, it turned out to be an oversize card that they had only put a standard second class stamp on. Cost me £1.20 . If I'd known who it was from, I would have told them to keep it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mr bachmann on January 30, 2015, 08:43:43 PM
got a puncture to-day on the way home , in the dark ..
not bad you say , yes but its a Robin ... :veryangry: :censored: (front wheel)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on February 02, 2015, 04:29:00 PM
Got my bi-monthly trip to GP tomorrow  :( 1st question I usually ask him is if I am dead yet?
It can take him time to check me out and then say 'not yet but......................' so its fun time tomorrow  :worried: :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on February 02, 2015, 05:31:27 PM
Quote from: jonclox on February 02, 2015, 04:29:00 PM
Got my bi-monthly trip to GP tomorrow  :( 1st question I usually ask him is if I am dead yet?
It can take him time to check me out and then say 'not yet but......................' so its fun time tomorrow  :worried: :worried:

Full sympathy there Jon but don't forget to come back and let us know what the doc's answer was!  :D

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 03, 2015, 02:17:25 PM
I've been suffering with a chest infection/bronchitis or summat for 2 months now, while my quack conducts various experiments on me (Mengele springs to mind :uneasy:). Last week, for some reason, she said I was to be referred to a cardiologist :worried: (gulp)
I was telephoned today to be told I could have an appointment for 23rd March (as if I was being done a favour) ::)
My retort that I hoped I'd still be alive to make the appointment didn't go down very well.
:veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on February 03, 2015, 02:51:08 PM
Had my foot scanned before Christmas, and saw the specialist last week. Could not find anything wrong in scan, hence no steroid/cortizone injection offered. Will leave it for now (!), but keep file open for 6 months, when I can go back if it gets worse!!!
He did decide (after prompting from me, as he had not read my notes), that the problem stems from 1959, when I was in plaster from waist to left ankle, for 8 months odd, and my leg is slightly twisted. Same reason that I cannot ski, without one ski going in the opposite direction to the other!
Something else to "put up with".
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on February 03, 2015, 02:56:29 PM
Last week the Dentist surgery cancelled my 6-month checkup appointment - called them to rearrange, thinking a week, possibly two, hence - earliest they could fit me in: 23rd March. THEY cancelled the appointment - THEY should fit me in again quickly...  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on February 03, 2015, 04:05:23 PM
Hope your foot sorts itself out Kipper. I missed a step once, and damaged my Achilles tendon. After about 2 months, I was back home, so I went to the quack. He said that some ultrasound treatment would fix it and he would make an appointment for me. The appointment came through in April, and this was January. The appointment was just to see the consultant, not for treatment. By the time it came through I was Ok, so cancelled it . The secretary said lots of people seem to cancel. I wonder why?

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on February 03, 2015, 05:24:38 PM
Sorry that there seems to be several of you guys that are not as well as they should.

Particular sympathy for Mick as being a 'cardio patient' myself I am also prone to chest infections that can leave you in a pretty horrible state. I'm instructed that the moment I feel a chest problem coming on, I must hot foot it to the surgery for anti bio's.

I hope everyone gets a lot better soon.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on February 04, 2015, 10:45:53 AM
 :worried:  Well GP decided that I am still alive but after seeing me for over 20 years he has decided to retire
Was it something I said???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on February 04, 2015, 11:59:03 AM
You are very lucky to have seen one Doctor for 20 years ,Every time I go to our surgery I see a diferant Doctor and have To go through my life history and yet still nothing gets done in fact if someone down at the surgery had been kind enough to look at the results of my last blood test in July last year and tell ME then perhaps I wouldn't be Diabetic  now ,I kept going in to ask, I phoned over and over but each time I was told that there wasn't a doctor that knew about my case.Once upon a time as you  say your Doctor knew YOU and actualy had an interest YOU, You weren't just another means to get more money out... of the NHS.
Rant over otherwise my blood pressure will go Sky high.
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Wild on February 04, 2015, 12:38:23 PM
Years ago our doctor was so friendly he wrote a poem:

This is the tale of Baby Wild,
Who had become a problem child,

and I can't remember the rest. He even consulted over the phone when I became ill abroad. You'd never get that nowadays!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on February 04, 2015, 12:54:11 PM
This is the tale of Baby Wild,
Who had become a problem child,
He used to shout and swear a lot
He still does now and he's not a tot!

:o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on February 04, 2015, 01:12:42 PM
Quote from: Bob Wild on February 04, 2015, 12:38:23 PM
He even consulted over the phone when I became ill abroad. You'd never get that nowadays!

I can phone my surgery and get a phone call booked for the doctor to call me,this is fine,however I have no idea who I'm talking to because it's never the same doctor as last time I phoned or visited.

On a slightly different note.....I live in Newark and the local hospital was quite capable of dealing with A&E problems and performing operations,however the NHS have decided that anything that wants more than a sticking plaster has to go elsewhere requiring a 40 mile round trip.

Perhaps there wouldn't have been all the recent problems with capacity in A&E departments if it was possible to go to a local one.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on February 04, 2015, 05:26:26 PM
As a five year old (in 1955!), I cut the back of my leg on barbed wire. The wound was wide and deep, and I was bleeding like a stuck pig. I was plonked on the kiddy seat on the crossbar of my Dad's bike, and taken the two miles to the doctor's surgery. This was a Sunday afternoon, but a knock on the door got us into the surgery, where he stitched my leg. No moans or quibbles, just did the job. Today I would have to make my own risk assessment, on how serious the wound was, and decide if I needed a sticking plaster, a trip to the chemist, a trip to the GP surgery to see the nurse, a trip to the walk in centre at the hospital, or get to A&E. Or bleed to death and keep everyone happy!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on February 04, 2015, 10:40:06 PM
Quote from: Kipper on February 04, 2015, 05:26:26 PM
Today I would have to make my own risk assessment, on how serious the wound was, and decide if I needed a sticking plaster, a trip to the chemist, a trip to the GP surgery to see the nurse, a trip to the walk in centre at the hospital, or get to A&E. Or bleed to death and keep everyone happy!

No, what you would have done is, called 111 and as the operator goes through their prepared speech, when they get to the part about bleeding, you'd have bled enough blood for the 111 operator to pass you to the Emergency Ambulance line, who would then have scrambled an RRV (to arrive within the 8 minutes target time), and land ambulance with 2 more paramedics on-board and then the Air Ambulance as you could be a major trauma incident, because you've probably bled out a mug full of blood since the incident occurred. Oh by the way, there is no standard size of mug and yet it's a stock question on the questionnaire.

Oh trust me, this is true  :hmmm: :hmmm:

Cheers

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tdm on February 04, 2015, 11:25:18 PM
Not blowing the Trumpet of the Health Service over here, but this is what happened to my Brother-in-Law (Tony) the other year when he was out here on Holiday staying in an Apartment just a few doors away from us.

One morning his female partner of the past 17 years rang us on the internal phone to say Tony seemed to be having a funny turn, and would my wife Maureen pop round to take a look.

On doing so & noticing he was spilling the coffee he was trying to drink, and how one side of his face had sagged, immediately diagnosed a Stroke, and as the nearest A&E (Urgencias) was just a 10 minute drive away we put him in our Car and drove him there where he was seen immediately and the Doctor on Duty confirmed my wife's diagnosis and less than 5 minutes later he was on a bed in the Emergency room with a drip in his arm, and being given the necessary drugs to combat the effects of the Stroke.

As the A&E is only a small place inside a PortoCabin awaiting the building of a new Hospital in the South of Tenerife,  less than an hour later a called for Ambulance was whisking him away to the main Hospital in the Capitol Santa Cruz where he was admitted and put in a Ward and treated for another 5 days until he had recovered and was well enough for us to pick him up and bring him home to Los Cristianos to continue his Holiday.

Tony is now fully recovered but has to take regular medication to prevent him having another Stroke, and spends 6 months of the year in the U.K., in Lancashire, and 6 months in Tenerife in an Apartment close by that we jointly own.

Just wonder if he had had the Stroke (which was a severe one) whilst in the U.K.,
would he have been treated as quickly and effectively as in Tenerife, and it was all done on the National Health here.

By the way my wife is not a Nurse or in the Medical Profession but can recognise the signs of a Stroke or Heart Attack readily enough
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 05, 2015, 12:05:04 AM
Quote from: Kipper on February 04, 2015, 05:26:26 PM
As a five year old (in 1955!), I cut the back of my leg on barbed wire. The wound was wide and deep, and I was bleeding like a stuck pig. I was plonked on the kiddy seat on the crossbar of my Dad's bike, and taken the two miles to the doctor's surgery. This was a Sunday afternoon, but a knock on the door got us into the surgery, where he stitched my leg. No moans or quibbles, just did the job. Today I would have to make my own risk assessment, on how serious the wound was, and decide if I needed a sticking plaster, a trip to the chemist, a trip to the GP surgery to see the nurse, a trip to the walk in centre at the hospital, or get to A&E. Or bleed to death and keep everyone happy!
And don't forget the tetanus injection....

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 05, 2015, 12:12:18 AM
.... and while I'm on this thread.....

Members who looked will remember my Happy Thread entry about installing the three bowl Tasmanian urinal fountain last weekend (I'll ignore the comments that followed the post  :D). Well, it's turning up in the Angry Thread now, 'cos it appears the thing is leaking! And no, I did not drop it during installation  8)
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The store says I can take it back, but it's just the hassle. Why don't they test these things?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 05, 2015, 12:25:16 AM
And again, while I'm here... not such much angry as angry with me own stupidity....

On Monday I mounted two 12V LED lights on an archway at Chez Bealman. Yeah, I know the arch is leaning over, but I reckon the lights look pretty good:
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Anyway, it involved drilling through the brickwork....
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That hole took 45 minutes to drill! All was going well until, with 3cm to go, it felt as though I'd hit diamond or something! I drilled and drilled with all the force I could muster for the aforesaid 45 minutes, when I noticed I'd inadvertently switched the drill into reverse!!!  :doh: :smackedface: :-[

As soon as I corrected the switch, it cut through the remaining 3cm like butter! The other hole took less than 10 seconds! Bealman, you goose!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on February 05, 2015, 12:47:25 AM
I can't remember the last time I literally did LOL at a post but I just did then when reading about 45 minutes of reverse drilling! Nice one Bealman, yes, you most certainly are goose of the day. Congratulations  :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on February 05, 2015, 07:55:27 AM
Bit like a mate of mine who complained that his sander attachment was bl**dy noisy.

We checked it out  -  and turned the Hammer option off!  :D

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on February 05, 2015, 04:13:26 PM
Just dug out the steam mop we bought a few years ago (and which never got past the taking out of the box stage). Thought I would clean the carpet after the puppy deposits (as she is now house trained!?!). Water put in tank, plugged in, red light (good), green light (better), turn on tap - and nothing. Checked instructions - was tap shut for any length of time, as might have squashed pipe shut. Bugger, it was! Stripped cover off, and released pipe from tap - flat. Revived and adjusted so different part of pipe in tap. Went through process again, but still no steam. Opened up again, and rummaged around boiler area (very hot!), and found that the boiler was all corroded and looked snookered. Steam mop is now stripped and recyclable bits ready for recycling centre, and rest in dustbin. Now, where is the Argos catalogue?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on February 05, 2015, 05:08:14 PM
Re George's incident. A pal of mine was having trouble getting his petrol lawn mower started after the winter break. I was having a look at it, but couldn't fix it. I asked him for some hand cleaner, he pointed to a can containing paraffin. This isn't paraffin, I said, this is petrol. Oops, he said, I must have filled the lawn mower with paraffin.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 05, 2015, 08:39:31 PM
I filled the tank of my petrol fuelled Toyota Celica with diesel once. It got me about 50 yards down the road. Had to have it towed to three different repair shops before someone could work out what was wrong with it.  :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on February 05, 2015, 09:00:01 PM
Ordered a battery for my Land Rover. Received an email this morning at 08.39 AM:

"Your Battery Mega Store order 31115150083205 is estimated for delivery by UK Mail between 14:49 - 15:49. 
Your order is now out for delivery with our driver, and will be delivered between the times stated above".

At 16.00 hours I received another email:

"We're sorry... 
Our driver has met with an unexpected delay and will be with you soon.
We apologise for any inconvenience caused"..

It's now 20.57 and I'm still waiting :censored:

Good job Its not an urgent order  :sleep:

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on February 06, 2015, 01:13:26 AM
Quote from: Kipper on February 05, 2015, 04:13:26 PM
Just dug out the steam mop we bought a few years ago (and which never got past the taking out of the box stage). Thought I would clean the carpet after the puppy deposits (as she is now house trained!?!). Water put in tank, plugged in, red light (good), green light (better), turn on tap - and nothing. Checked instructions - was tap shut for any length of time, as might have squashed pipe shut. Bugger, it was! Stripped cover off, and released pipe from tap - flat. Revived and adjusted so different part of pipe in tap. Went through process again, but still no steam. Opened up again, and rummaged around boiler area (very hot!), and found that the boiler was all corroded and looked snookered. Steam mop is now stripped and recyclable bits ready for recycling centre, and rest in dustbin. Now, where is the Argos catalogue?

I got one for the wife the other week (a fair swap some may say), £20 in Home Bargains. It is of course still in the box. Maybe I should post this in the For Sale section.............
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on February 06, 2015, 11:20:17 AM
My battery delivery gets even better now. According to the delivery company, I received and signed for it at 16.31 hrs yesterday (5/02/2015)
Strange thing is, I don't have it :confused1:

Have contacted said courier as to exactly where their driver delivered it :hmmm:

More to follow ::)

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 06, 2015, 12:19:13 PM
No wonder the NHS is strapped for cash.
Could it perchance be because, for one appointment at the hospital, I've this morning received 3 separate letters from them confirming said appointment? :hmmm:

Or could it be the cost of packaging for their prescriptions? :hmmm:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/32/thumb_21217.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=21217)

Draw your own conclusions, you must :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on February 06, 2015, 12:51:48 PM
Know exactly what you mean, Mick.

I take a lot of different tabs each day; 6 in the morning and 3 each night.  :worried:

I look at some of the empty oversize foil packs and with my N gauge hat on think 'now what can I use that for?'

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on February 06, 2015, 02:23:29 PM
Being diabetic, I too take loads of different tablets. I don't know why they insist on the foil packs. The small bottles were much easier. When I am getting some of them out of the blister pack, they spring out and I end up crawling around on the floor, trying to retrieve the blessed things.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GeeBee on February 06, 2015, 02:24:38 PM
Quote from: Malc on February 06, 2015, 02:23:29 PM
Being diabetic, I too take loads of different tablets. I don't know why they insist on the foil packs. The small bottles were much easier. When I am getting some of them out of the blister pack, they spring out and I end up crawling around on the floor, trying to retrieve the blessed things.

Me to thankfully down to 24 a day now
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kipper on February 06, 2015, 02:38:20 PM
The girlfriend sent me a card, first class postage from Slough, for my birthday, which was last Friday - it did not arrive. Today, I received a note from the postman, that I had an underpaid letter waiting at the sorting office - £1.11 to pay. Went down and paid, and found I had the missing card, and only a week late.
Now, why did it take a week, I asked? Not enough postage paid, as it was too thick for the 5mm slot, so came second class, says the woman behind the counter. So why have I got to pay the first class rate supplement, says I. That's the way it is, says she. I reckon I, or the girlfriend, is due a refund!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 06, 2015, 03:51:40 PM
Quote from: Malc on February 06, 2015, 02:23:29 PM
Being diabetic, I too take loads of different tablets. I don't know why they insist on the foil packs. The small bottles were much easier. When I am getting some of them out of the blister pack, they spring out and I end up crawling around on the floor, trying to retrieve the blessed things.

I used to get 100 x 75mg dispersible aspirin from the pharmacy in a small plastic pot. For some reason they say they are now not allowed to sell those and instead I get the push-through tablet packs x 10 in a box. All I do is push all the tablets out and put them into the old plastic pot. The world's gone mad (potential name for a Bond film?) :veryangry2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on February 06, 2015, 04:44:59 PM
Quote from: GeeBee on February 06, 2015, 02:24:38 PM
Quote from: Malc on February 06, 2015, 02:23:29 PM
Being diabetic, I too take loads of different tablets. I don't know why they insist on the foil packs. The small bottles were much easier. When I am getting some of them out of the blister pack, they spring out and I end up crawling around on the floor, trying to retrieve the blessed things.

Me to thankfully down to 24 a day now

You must rattle when you walk...  :)

...and to think I was happy when they got my 5-a-day down to 2...  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Wild on February 06, 2015, 11:00:15 PM
Had to move my semi-portable layout out of the room 'cos Mrs W needed some work doing. Anyway, upon its return one point would only work in one direction and worse still there is no power to the Dynamis controller. This is the second power supply I've had - is this a common failure? Anyone know any better alternatives?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GeeBee on February 06, 2015, 11:30:30 PM
Quote from: talisman56 on February 06, 2015, 04:44:59 PM
Quote from: GeeBee on February 06, 2015, 02:24:38 PM
Quote from: Malc on February 06, 2015, 02:23:29 PM
Being diabetic, I too take loads of different tablets. I don't know why they insist on the foil packs. The small bottles were much easier. When I am getting some of them out of the blister pack, they spring out and I end up crawling around on the floor, trying to retrieve the blessed things.

Me to thankfully down to 24 a day now

You must rattle when you walk...  :)

...and to think I was happy when they got my 5-a-day down to 2...  :hmmm:

If I don't rattle I know I have not yet taken them
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on February 07, 2015, 01:02:33 PM
Quote from: Bob Wild on February 06, 2015, 11:00:15 PM
Had to move my semi-portable layout out of the room 'cos Mrs W needed some work doing. Anyway, upon its return one point would only work in one direction and worse still there is no power to the Dynamis controller. This is the second power supply I've had - is this a common failure? Anyone know any better alternatives?
Funnily enough Bob, I had what I thought was a problem with my printer power pack, but it turned out to be one half of a double mains socket. RHS failed, LHS OK. I've never seen or heard of this happening before, but a cracked rivet inside the thing had disconnected the neutral.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NinOz on February 08, 2015, 02:16:57 AM
How I hate web sites with online shopping which don't update availability of products. 
No indication of stock status.
Damn waste of my time ordering to be told "out of stock, not sure when it will be available".    :veryangry:
These sites go on my don't use unless desperate list.

CFJ
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NinOz on February 09, 2015, 01:25:12 AM
Back from holidays, 3 days later developed sore throat, ears and mouth, headache and a cough. :drool:
I am sure it was caught from the plague bearers in front and behind me on the plane. :veryangry:
Toddler behind had a cough like a fistful of crisps being crushed and insisted on "talking" to me; the two in front coughing and snuffling the whole 3 hours.

My wife says that we can't cull children, some legal problem apparently. ???
Don't see why not, they kill infected animals to prevent disease spread.
>:( :veryangry: >:(

CFJ
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on February 09, 2015, 05:41:21 PM
Re my battery (none delivery) Despite my email to the courier requesting some information as to 'what
vehicles if any on the drive' and 'what side of the road' ( this is a pertinent question as my turning is a
very long cul de sac). I received no answers. I have though received an email confirming the case as
closed :confused1:

The company I ordered my battery from is sending a replacement ---- hopefully not by the same courier :goggleeyes:

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on February 10, 2015, 01:55:08 PM
I was quite happy to receive my 'flue jab' back in November but it was the wrong sort (we`re now told ) so I seem to have ended up with this winters version regardlessly   :veryangry: :veryangry: :censored: >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 10, 2015, 04:31:12 PM
Evidently this 'old' vaccine only works with about 3% of the population and, as N gaugers, are only about 20% of the market, that means we only have a 0.6% chance of being kept flu-free. That's assuming, of course, that the 3% of the population model in 'Orribly Oversize. :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ChrisWV10 on February 10, 2015, 09:02:22 PM
All I can say is roll on New Year 'cos I've had enough of this one already  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on February 11, 2015, 02:30:56 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on February 10, 2015, 04:31:12 PM
Evidently this 'old' vaccine only works with about 3% of the population and, as N gaugers, are only about 20% of the market, that means we only have a 0.6% chance of being kept flu-free. That's assuming, of course, that the 3% of the population model in 'Orribly Oversize. :laugh:
Velly interesting perhaps they should add that people who do go down with the flu thingie manage to achieve it 100%
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on February 11, 2015, 02:59:19 PM
Just been turned down for a job I really wanted  :'(

Also, HMRC have sent me a new tax code based on the fact that:
1. I am claiming JSA. Erm, I get nothing!
2. I have a company car. See above.

Are they really so thick to believe that although I am unemployed I still have a company car?  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 11, 2015, 03:10:19 PM
Whoa, John.
When I was made redundant I was allowed to hang onto the company car for 4 months after I'd left.
I, too, got no JSA and all they did was pay my stamp for the period I wasn't working.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on February 11, 2015, 03:16:27 PM
I had similar a few years ago Mick but I haven't had a company car since April 2014 which HMRC know as they've had my P45s and P11d.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on February 11, 2015, 03:18:05 PM
Also now been on hold to HMRC for 16 minutes

21 minutes now..................

Answered after 25 minutes. Asked to be put through to a manager but surprise surprise, there isn't one available.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 11, 2015, 03:19:22 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on February 11, 2015, 03:16:27 PM
I had similar a few years ago Mick but I haven't had a company car since April 2014 which HMRC know as they've had my P45s and P11d.

Dunno why I defended the stupid  :censored: then.
:sorrysign:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on February 11, 2015, 07:08:26 PM
Door to door salesman this evening - SWMBO opened door to him (it). Selling cavity wall insulation. 'I'm going up and down your road today offering our services to survey the outside of your house with a view to installing cavity wall insulation with the help of a government grant'.

SWMBO knows we have no cash as I spend it all on N gauge stuff and she spends it on wool so says 'we're not interested'.

Salesman keeps going and forces survey form into her hand saying 'we'll be round tomorrow to measure up. SWMBO says 'You're wasting your time cos we don't have cavity walls, we don't have any cash and we're not interested'.

Salesman keeps pressure on and says 'We'll be able to confirm that for you tomorrow please fill out the survey request form'.

At this point I walk to front door and said - 'My wife says we're not interested. Which part of that sentence do you not understand'. Salesman said 'What did you say to me' in a very aggressive way and I said 'We are not interested go away'. and shut the door in his face.

How do these people get away with this. Me and SWMBO are getting on a bit but can still shoo these people off. What about all the older and frail people who could easily be intimidated by such Salesman (or they may even be con artists trying to get a quick look round your property for burglary opportunities).

I would never buy anything from a cold caller. If I want something I research what I want and suitable suppliers and get them round for a quote.

Most of these cold callers are just chancers and you can't help feeling that they might just chuck a brick through your window if you upset them!

I am so annoyed about this.

:veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: trkilliman on February 11, 2015, 07:23:11 PM
It's similar with telephone calls. Sick and tired of people asking me to take part in a survey, asking me what energy provider I have...even had a call from J.D.Williams clothes seller trying to get me to buy gas through them.

I am aware that some draw you into conversation and then try to get personal details from you...well they can all naff off. A friends husband lets them talk and when they ask him a question he bellows down the phone at the top of his voice **** off.  Strangely the number of nuisance calls they get has fallen dramatically! lol

I am supposed to be "shielded" from nuisance calls, so it must be awful for those that are not! 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on February 11, 2015, 07:28:21 PM
Quote from: trkilliman on February 11, 2015, 07:23:11 PM
It's similar with telephone calls. Sick and tired of people asking me to take part in a survey, asking me what energy provider I have...even had a call from J.D.Williams clothes seller trying to get me to buy gas through them.

I am aware that some draw you into conversation and then try to get personal details from you...well they can all naff off. A friends husband lets them talk and when they ask him a question he bellows down the phone at the top of his voice **** off.  Strangely the number of nuisance calls they get has fallen dramatically! lol

I am supposed to be "shielded" from nuisance calls, so it must be awful for those that are not!

I'm supposed to be shielded from these calls but it doesn't work. The worst calls are the pre-recorded ones like when you hear 'Natwest, Barclays.. etc. (ppi calls) where you don't even have the satisfaction of telling them to **** off.

Surely the people that instigate these calls must have realised by now that everybody hangs up after the first couple of words. Anyway - how do these people get away with still doing this stuff??
:veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jon898 on February 11, 2015, 08:47:33 PM
Here's a fun way to get rid of a telemarketer, courtesy of comedian Tom Mabe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W75lsvrvTU0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W75lsvrvTU0)

The laughs in the background are from the radio show "The Bob and Tom Show", so it's not as "PC" as it could be.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on February 11, 2015, 08:56:49 PM
Quote from: Jon898 on February 11, 2015, 08:47:33 PM
Here's a fun way to get rid of a telemarketer, courtesy of comedian Tom Mabe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W75lsvrvTU0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W75lsvrvTU0)

The laughs in the background are from the radio show "The Bob and Tom Show", so it's not as "PC" as it could be.
Thank you Jon. You have made an angry man a happy man - that was just so cool!!
:thankyousign:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on February 11, 2015, 09:05:39 PM
Quote from: austinbob on February 11, 2015, 07:28:21 PM


Surely the people that instigate these calls must have realised by now that everybody hangs up after the first couple of words. Anyway - how do these people get away with still doing this stuff??
:veryangry:

Because BT make a ton of money from them (same as the Post Office makes its profit from junk mail and not stamped mail) and every now and again one of these calls catches someone who doesn't realise they're a scam and they make a profit on it.

Suspect it'll take something fairly radical (like re-nationalisation of BT and Post Office and a blank ban on cold calls/junkmail) to have any effect on them.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on February 11, 2015, 09:10:16 PM
Quote from: Zwilnik on February 11, 2015, 09:05:39 PM
Quote from: austinbob on February 11, 2015, 07:28:21 PM


Surely the people that instigate these calls must have realised by now that everybody hangs up after the first couple of words. Anyway - how do these people get away with still doing this stuff??
:veryangry:

Because BT make a ton of money from them (same as the Post Office makes its profit from junk mail and not stamped mail) and every now and again one of these calls catches someone who doesn't realise they're a scam and they make a profit on it.

Suspect it'll take something fairly radical (like re-nationalisation of BT and Post Office and a blank ban on cold calls/junkmail) to have any effect on them.
Unfortunately you're probably right - how sad is that!  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: trkilliman on February 11, 2015, 09:34:47 PM
Bulk postings...commonly called junk Mail. I spent 18 years in Bristol's main sorting office (finally let out for good behaviour lol) At one stage during the 90s we were told that 40p in every £ in our pay came from bulk postings/junk mail.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on February 11, 2015, 10:34:42 PM
you can get a small device to connect on the phone line that you can then block the callers on.  ours is built into the phone we have; it's great :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mark100 on February 16, 2015, 04:59:31 PM
Well fourteen weeks off work due to a leg injury after a bike crash, then followed by 3 weeks of last years holiday entitlement to use up.

Guess What? Today was the last day of the leave, Back to work tomorrow,  :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 17, 2015, 05:30:14 AM
BYE BYE BAT TREE....

A huge tree (more like a big Aussie weed) in an awkward corner out the back of Chez Bealman which has been growing since we moved in (new in 1981), has recently started attracting fruit bats at night. The thing should have been removed years ago.... I didn't plant it, and I have a suspicion that it may have started life on the other side of the fence.... anyway.

Waking up to big liquid bat droppings every morning was the final straw, so today, in came.... THE LUMBERJACKS!!
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So why is this in the angry thread? 'Cos Michael Palin and his mates cost me $1400, that's why. That's a lot of N gauge bikkies.

They did a great job, though, and it's certainly not easy work. At least we did not have to get permission and pay the council a fee (they won't let you touch Australian native trees). For the more botanical members, the tree was apparently Celtis occidentalis, or Common Hackberry.  :worried:

Good riddance.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on February 17, 2015, 08:30:17 AM
We have problems with the Ozzy Eucalyptus here in the UK.

They seem to be planted by folk who have no idea how big or how rapidly they grow.

Beautiful in the right place they can be a a real PITA and expensive to remove.

Dave G

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on February 17, 2015, 08:39:04 AM
Bealman I am fuming you are destroying your lovely Fruit Bats, these little cretins are a pain in the ass so I can not see the problem you were having >:D, just think about all that muck they provided, free manure for your plants and free foot prints into your den where does it all end and did the Lumberjacks give you the chance to keep the timber to use for your barbie if not report them to "I want to keep my timber brigade 0111133344555, you should get no response from that number.

Why am I writing this diity well just looked at your picture and you have Blue Sky and here in the UK its bloody freezing, and horrible now run along and eat your Fruit Bat Pie there's a good chap.

:angel:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 17, 2015, 09:48:32 AM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:

Crack up!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on February 17, 2015, 11:06:45 AM
Bealman. Just out of interest, did they do anything to the stump to stop possible re growth such as
new side shoots :uneasy:

If not, I have found that a couple of long copper nails hammered in definitely does the trick. Should
be available from any decent yacht/boat chandlers.

Had a large :censored: ivy years ago, no matter what we tried the  :veryangry: kept reappearing. In
the end I was told of the copper nail trick, whacked one in, never saw it again :thumbsup:

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on February 17, 2015, 11:27:16 AM
It's obviously too cold outside for Geoff to go and collect his medication. Geoff, can't a neighbour go for you?  :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on February 17, 2015, 12:18:38 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on February 17, 2015, 11:27:16 AM
It's obviously too cold outside for Geoff to go and collect his medication. Geoff, can't a neighbour go for you?  :no:

Medication which fruitbat did you get off. Sure I never mentioned the pill.

:hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: javlinfaw7 on February 17, 2015, 02:41:01 PM
Dried frog pills? common medication inthe century of the fruit bat
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on February 17, 2015, 03:18:01 PM
I am angry that there are no fruitbats available in N scale.  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on February 17, 2015, 03:34:19 PM
Quote from: railsquid on February 17, 2015, 03:18:01 PM
I am angry that there are no fruitbats available in N scale.  :veryangry:

It can be arranged droppings as well.  :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on February 17, 2015, 03:42:38 PM
Quote from: Geoff on February 17, 2015, 03:34:19 PM
Quote from: railsquid on February 17, 2015, 03:18:01 PM
I am angry that there are no fruitbats available in N scale.  :veryangry:

It can be arranged droppings as well.  :P

OK, so all we need now for a realistic scene are scale models of a) a Celtis occidentalis tree, b) some lumberjacks and c) an angry N-scale modeller.  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tdm on February 17, 2015, 07:00:04 PM
In case you miss seeing your fruit bats Bealman - below is a picture you can print & keep of a fruit bat tree playing host to a whole colony of the little creatures. In case your wondering where I took the picture, it was in Tonga a couple of years ago.

(http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo231/Tdmak/Model%20Railway/TGB.jpg) (http://s379.photobucket.com/user/Tdmak/media/Model%20Railway/TGB.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 17, 2015, 08:24:29 PM
In between crackin' up over the last few posts,  :laughabovepost:

Roger: in the past I have had the stumps grinded which usually does the trick, but the guy couldn't do that this time because of the proximity to the fence, but he assures me that it has been poisoned. Upon inspection I can see a groove has been cut around the perimeter,  which I assume has something to do with the poisoning.

As to the copper nail, I am  currently trying to poison another smaller stump by drilling holes in it and pouring all sorts of stuff into the holes - copper sulphate and turpentine so far - but it seems to be having little effect.

So I'll give your idea a try. Do you hammer the nail into the top surface, or the side of the stump?

Thanks, George
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on February 17, 2015, 10:56:51 PM
I understand it is best if you hammer them straight into the trunk George. Make a circle right around the trunk. It has a chemical reaction that stops the sap getting through.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on February 18, 2015, 12:20:14 AM
Malc's suggestion should work as I have done the same. I've also poured creosote into slots in the stump which works too.

Myself and 2 friends chopped down the last 2 trees. I suppose you could say we were treefellers that day.


Anyone seen my coat?







EDIT: Please don't make me explain the treefellers comment like I just had to for the wife. Anyway, she's happy with just the one  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 18, 2015, 12:45:46 AM
Last seen hangin' on a branch line  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: penncalco on February 18, 2015, 02:31:27 AM
Best way to remove stumps is to blow them out with Gelignite, I have a Powder Monkeys licence and have removed plenty of stumps this way.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on February 18, 2015, 08:07:25 AM
Quote from: penncalco on February 18, 2015, 02:31:27 AM
Best way to remove stumps is to blow them out with Gelignite, I have a Powder Monkeys licence and have removed plenty of stumps this way.

No doubt you have a few gunpowder wagons  ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tdm on February 18, 2015, 07:08:28 PM
More dissapointed than angry, although a little annoyed also.
After ordering two Train-Tech sound modules, and having them finally arrive tonight, on opening the package found a little note on the enclosed invoice to say no batteries have been included as quote "... it is no longer legal to ship lithium cells outside of the U.K.....".

So I am out of pocket 2 batteries and have to see if I can acquire some from somewhere local if I can.

It would have been nice to have been told this when I made the order, or in a follow up email,
so beware any of you "foreigners" like me who don't reside in the U.K., if you wish to order Train-Techs sound modules they will be shipped minus the batteries they need.

It does also say on the note that they make this clear on the product pages of the Website - but who reads all the small print - I didn't spot it.

Instead of having a go at a temporary fitting of one of the sound modules tomorrow, I am now having to find out if and where I get these batteries from in Tenerife.

Also begs the question aren't there many other electric goods exported from the U.K. with lithium batteries in them, and what happens to them?

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on February 18, 2015, 07:56:21 PM
Hmmm - not obvious on product part of their web site (read : not there at all as far as I could see), and only on their webshop site (different one), when you go into the actual product to purchase.

However - the non-UK item does clearly say on the icon description "no battery" (at least, it does now ...)and it is fractionally cheaper - was this the one you selected ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tdm on February 18, 2015, 11:29:36 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on February 18, 2015, 07:56:21 PM
Hmmm - not obvious on product part of their web site (read : not there at all as far as I could see), and only on their webshop site (different one), when you go into the actual product to purchase.

However - the non-UK item does clearly say on the icon description "no battery" (at least, it does now ...)and it is fractionally cheaper - was this the one you selected ?

No - I paid the full price (less VAT) and I have since asked them to send the batteries I have paid for to my son's address in Chester as I will be there in April to pick them up.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on February 19, 2015, 09:27:19 AM
Hi Tdm I will be going to Ali Pali show and will speak to him about this and if he hasn't changed the website by then I will point this out to him and get him to state clearly that he can't send batteries in the post  . As someone else said lots of stuff comes thought the post with batteries in how do they get away with it.
When you get the batteries please post your views on the sound units.
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: JBQFC on February 20, 2015, 08:13:20 PM
oh well feeling good only lasted two weeks
now back to having stomach pains and feeling tired all the time
back to the doctors next week i guess  :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 20, 2015, 08:24:07 PM
Hope they can sort you out quickly :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on February 21, 2015, 12:33:38 AM
Angry ? Not harf !!

Chancellor O. has decided to pay off the war debt cos the interest rate payable on that is 3.5% but he can borrow on the world at considerably less.

So we are asked to send in our certificates, issued sometime in the '14- '18 WW1 period. Ha, heard the one about "they are in a safe place somewhere, , " ?

Anyway, whilst searching boxes and the attic, found several unclaimed interest warrants,
some friends advised the debt still remained so stick 'em into the Bank and insist that they will be honoured.
(indeed some years ago I did put one in that was 16months old ! it was paid, but that was just one)

So I thort I'd do the right thing, say "sorry I forgot these can you do me some new ones" ,
they looked up the records and found some more un-claimed ones and said they would re-issue those as well,
that's good I thort,
£120 thereabouts re-issued, charge for doing so £47 !

Stone the crows !

There would have been more honour in just tearing them up.
Once upon a time the civil servants were paid by us anyway so there was no extra charges for forgetfulness, now it is all privatised and out-sourced and thus we pay for our incompetances :)

Wont do the 'right thing' again in the future :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bad Raven on March 03, 2015, 02:05:56 PM
I go to the Doctors today, she takes great care to tell me that the prescription will say take one tablet four times a day.

Then she says but its quite OK to take 2 tablets two times a day.

Note "says"................... could this be plausible deniability!!!!   :hmmm:           YUP!!    :-X
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tdm on March 03, 2015, 04:25:54 PM
Quote from: Bad Raven on March 03, 2015, 02:05:56 PM
I go to the Doctors today, she takes great care to tell me that the prescription will say take one tablet four times a day.
Then she says but its quite OK to take 2 tablets two times a day.
Note "says"................... could this be plausible deniability!!!!   :hmmm:           YUP!!    :-X

I was once told "...Drink only in Moderation...."

However I have never found an establishment called "Moderation" - so I drink how much of whatever I like wherever I like.!  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on March 03, 2015, 04:37:05 PM
Quote from: Tdm on March 03, 2015, 04:25:54 PM
Quote from: Bad Raven on March 03, 2015, 02:05:56 PM
I go to the Doctors today, she takes great care to tell me that the prescription will say take one tablet four times a day.
Then she says but its quite OK to take 2 tablets two times a day.
Note "says"................... could this be plausible deniability!!!!   :hmmm:           YUP!!    :-X

I was once told "...Drink only in Moderation...."

However I have never found an establishment called "Moderation" - so I drink how much of whatever I like wherever I like.!  :D

Kinda goes with the somewhat slurred saying 'I'll be glad when I've had enough of this!'  :beers:

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tom U on March 03, 2015, 04:43:08 PM
Fifty years since I read the book, but I think this is (more or less) from H.E. Bates  - My Uncle Silas....Or perhaps it was Bernard Miles....anyway,

"I remember the time old uncle Silas were took bad wi' the pneumonica.  He went to the doctor, and the doctor giv 'im some medcin.  It were writ on the bottle that the medcin were to be took in a recumbernt position.  Weeeell, we didn't 'ave no recumbernt position, so we giv it 'im in an old teacup.  We recon that's what killed im in the end".
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on March 03, 2015, 06:21:42 PM
Quote from: Tdm on March 03, 2015, 04:25:54 PM
Quote from: Bad Raven on March 03, 2015, 02:05:56 PM
I go to the Doctors today, she takes great care to tell me that the prescription will say take one tablet four times a day.
Then she says but its quite OK to take 2 tablets two times a day.
Note "says"................... could this be plausible deniability!!!!   :hmmm:           YUP!!    :-X

I was once told "...Drink only in Moderation...."

However I have never found an establishment called "Moderation" - so I drink how much of whatever I like wherever I like.!  :D

Well, what can I say Tdm but you knew someone would find a pub called the Moderation didn't you? Here you go...............

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/TeamSausageReadingFestival/DSCF0125Small.jpg)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tdm on March 03, 2015, 07:04:41 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on March 03, 2015, 06:21:42 PM
Quote from: Tdm on March 03, 2015, 04:25:54 PM
Quote from: Bad Raven on March 03, 2015, 02:05:56 PM
I go to the Doctors today, she takes great care to tell me that the prescription will say take one tablet four times a day.
Then she says but its quite OK to take 2 tablets two times a day.
Note "says"................... could this be plausible deniability!!!!   :hmmm:           YUP!!    :-X
I was once told "...Drink only in Moderation...."
However I have never found an establishment called "Moderation" - so I drink how much of whatever I like wherever I like.!  :D
Well, what can I say Tdm but you knew someone would find a pub called the Moderation didn't you? Here you go...............
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/TeamSausageReadingFestival/DSCF0125Small.jpg)

Whereabouts is the Pub? You'll be telling me next that there is also one called "The Tea Totaller"!
I remember when I was just a young boy being awarded a certificate from the "Temperance Soceity" for an article I wrote on the "Evils of Alcohol", and just before I left school after finishing my "O" Levels I decided to find out for myself and went to the Pub to celebrate. 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on March 04, 2015, 01:29:35 AM
The Moderation is in Hull. Can't find a Teetotaller I'm afraid although we did have a beer in my local a few weeks ago called TEA. It didn't seem right to go to the bar and ask for 2 Teas  ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DesertHound on March 04, 2015, 05:09:19 AM
If you think that's funny John, try finding a pub that sells, and then ask for, a pint of Flowers  ;D yes it does exist!

:-\
Quote from: Trainfish on March 04, 2015, 01:29:35 AM
The Moderation is in Hull. Can't find a Teetotaller I'm afraid although we did have a beer in my local a few weeks ago called TEA. It didn't seem right to go to the bar and ask for 2 Teas  ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on March 04, 2015, 08:03:39 AM
How about asking for a pint (or 500ml) of Gran Dry?
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/30/thumb_22384.png) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=22384)

Quote from: DesertHound on March 04, 2015, 05:09:19 AM
If you think that's funny John, try finding a pub that sells, and then ask for, a pint of Flowers  ;D yes it does exist!

:-
Quote from: Trainfish on March 04, 2015, 01:29:35 AM
The Moderation is in Hull. Can't find a Teetotaller I'm afraid although we did have a beer in my local a few weeks ago called TEA. It didn't seem right to go to the bar and ask for 2 Teas  ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 04, 2015, 09:41:26 AM
Quote from: DesertHound on March 04, 2015, 05:09:19 AM
If you think that's funny John, try finding a pub that sells, and then ask for, a pint of Flowers  ;D yes it does exist!


I can remember drinking Flowers IPA in my yoof. I didn't know it was still in production :dunce:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 04, 2015, 10:01:17 AM
I think you can get it in hardware stores under the pest control  section  :sick2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DesertHound on March 04, 2015, 12:10:24 PM
Quote from: Bealman on March 04, 2015, 10:01:17 AM
I think you can get it in hardware stores under the pest control  section  :sick2:

Don't know about pest control section, but possibly in the pest creation section.  ;D

Pretty sure it's still around Mick. Always order one when I see it. I like Railsquid's Dry Granny though. I won't ask what ... hmmm, on second thoughts, I won't ask. This could go downhill very quickly. I thus retreat from an otherwise compelling conversation, for the dignity of us all  :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 04, 2015, 01:11:01 PM
Flowers IPA was OK, unlike Watney's Starlight or Red Barrel. The one big advantage of Watney's pubs in the 70s was the big Red Barrel sign outside. Meant you could easily spot the pubs and avoid them.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on March 04, 2015, 01:21:58 PM
When I was at university the entry 'fee' to get into a house party was a Watneys Party Seven...  :beers:  :pint:  :sick2:  ...in that order...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MinZaPint on March 04, 2015, 06:27:16 PM
Quote from: talisman56 on March 04, 2015, 01:21:58 PM
When I was at university the entry 'fee' to get into a house party was a Watneys Party Seven...  :beers:  :pint:  :sick2:  ...in that order...

Unfortunately I have to agree with that, used to go to parties in Epsom where two of the Rolling Stones (Before they hit the big time) used to rent a bungalow, they never bothered to mow the lawn it was covered in empty Party Sevens and Vodka bottles, the next day was a right off but the jam sessions were fantastic, (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-music021.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on March 04, 2015, 07:17:00 PM
Was that Mick and Keef?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DesertHound on March 04, 2015, 08:09:44 PM
Mick went to my university - I don't think he even saw the first year out. Didn't do him any harm did it?  :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 04, 2015, 09:09:16 PM
Quote from: Malc on March 04, 2015, 01:11:01 PM
Flowers IPA was OK, unlike Watney's Starlight or Red Barrel. The one big advantage of Watney's pubs in the 70s was the big Red Barrel sign outside. Meant you could easily spot the pubs and avoid them.
:laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing: :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: JBQFC on March 04, 2015, 09:11:49 PM
Quote from: JBQFC on February 20, 2015, 08:13:20 PM
oh well feeling good only lasted two weeks
now back to having stomach pains and feeling tired all the time
back to the doctors next week i guess  :censored:

off to see my consultant tomorrow and guess what no symptoms for three days  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 04, 2015, 09:30:28 PM
Quote from: JBQFC on March 04, 2015, 09:11:49 PM
Quote from: JBQFC on February 20, 2015, 08:13:20 PM
oh well feeling good only lasted two weeks
now back to having stomach pains and feeling tired all the time
back to the doctors next week i guess  :censored:

off to see my consultant tomorrow and guess what no symptoms for three days  >:(

Not to wish ill health on you, but good luck :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: JBQFC on March 05, 2015, 07:48:11 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 04, 2015, 09:30:28 PM
Quote from: JBQFC on March 04, 2015, 09:11:49 PM
Quote from: JBQFC on February 20, 2015, 08:13:20 PM
oh well feeling good only lasted two weeks
now back to having stomach pains and feeling tired all the time
back to the doctors next week i guess  :censored:

off to see my consultant tomorrow and guess what no symptoms for three days  >:(

Not to wish ill health on you, but good luck :thumbsup:

now have to fill in a food diary so if or when i get ill again he can see if that is the cause
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 05, 2015, 09:01:00 PM
Quote from: JBQFC on March 05, 2015, 07:48:11 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 04, 2015, 09:30:28 PM
Quote from: JBQFC on March 04, 2015, 09:11:49 PM
Quote from: JBQFC on February 20, 2015, 08:13:20 PM
oh well feeling good only lasted two weeks
now back to having stomach pains and feeling tired all the time
back to the doctors next week i guess  :censored:

off to see my consultant tomorrow and guess what no symptoms for three days  >:(

Not to wish ill health on you, but good luck :thumbsup:

now have to fill in a food diary so if or when i get ill again he can see if that is the cause

Sadly it would be too easy for me.......
Monday - too much
Tuesday - too much
etc
etc
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on March 06, 2015, 06:07:52 PM
 :veryangry: :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry: :veryangry:

Model Railways Direct!

Received their 'new in' email this morning, a section of which is reproduced below:

[smg id=22482]

Note the prices of the Olive green 3-plank and the weathered maroon BCK.

The website now for these two items, and thus the prices I was charged at 4pm this afternoon:

[smg id=22483][smg id=22481]

Went back in to enquire about prices and they said they had revised prices from Farish and were charging those now. Most unapologetic and obviously not willing to give a bit based on their original prices, as advertised. No prices on the items in shop so not able to check them before I was charged at checkout.

Just off to write an email cancelling the pre-orders I have with them and close my account...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on March 06, 2015, 06:39:20 PM
In my experience that is very unusual for MRD. I have always found them to be helpful with price matching against other outlets too. I had a similar experience to you a while back in that they were advertising some buildings at reduced prices which were around half the normal price. I went to buy them just after midnight and found that the prices had gone back up. I dropped them an email to ask if they would sell them at the older lower price still. They called me the next day and agreed to do so if I paid over the phone at that time which I did. This saved me over £200 by the way! I realise it probably doesn't help to cheer you up but it may be they had a bad day for whatever reason?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DELETED on March 07, 2015, 05:21:25 AM
"Deal or no deal" with Noel Edmonds -don't mind the guy at all but what a waste of 30'odd  mins this show is.  Pick a box and that's it isn't it?  2min job at the very most.  (Took me years to work out it's literally just pick a box, no wonder they don't explain the rules -there's no game there!!!!)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on March 07, 2015, 10:25:33 AM
Quote from: RST on March 07, 2015, 05:21:25 AM
"Deal or no deal" with Noel Edmonds -don't mind the guy at all but what a waste of 30'odd  mins this show is.  Pick a box and that's it isn't it?  2min job at the very most.  (Took me years to work out it's literally just pick a box, no wonder they don't explain the rules -there's no game there!!!!)
Fully agree - can't stand it
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on March 07, 2015, 10:30:14 AM
Quote from: Pengi on March 07, 2015, 10:25:33 AM
Quote from: RST on March 07, 2015, 05:21:25 AM
"Deal or no deal" with Noel Edmonds -don't mind the guy at all but what a waste of 30'odd  mins this show is.  Pick a box and that's it isn't it?  2min job at the very most.  (Took me years to work out it's literally just pick a box, no wonder they don't explain the rules -there's no game there!!!!)
Fully agree - can't stand it

Me too!

I'm still recovering from Mr Blobby! :worried:

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 07, 2015, 10:41:02 AM
Doesn't come on here, apparently thankfully.  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on March 07, 2015, 10:47:17 AM
DOND one of the shows I love to hate!  All these chavs coming on with lucky number
systems, wailing when the big boxes go out, can't take my Gran to Disneyland now,
Noel Edmonds adding his hokey philosophy  trying to spin out a lucky dip.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on March 07, 2015, 11:06:41 AM
Yeah I quite like it too. Its not the "game" so much as the interplay among the participants.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on March 07, 2015, 11:08:04 AM
Good heavens, is Noel still around?  :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 07, 2015, 11:13:25 AM
I was thinking that.... he was a DJ on Radio One when I was still there drinkin' Newcastle Exhibition for two bob a pint! Eek!

Is it him, a robot or a cardboard cutout with a battery sticky- taped in the back  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on March 07, 2015, 11:48:05 AM
Quote from: Bealman on March 07, 2015, 11:13:25 AM
Is it him, a robot or a cardboard cutout with a battery sticky- taped in the back  :D

Hard to tell, but not much difference between them ........
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on March 07, 2015, 03:45:50 PM
Came into this forum this morning and within 5 minutes was hit by a virus.
No problems I say and run AVG.
Sinse then Ive been hit by 15 viruses and its taken me nearly all day to loose them.
:-[   Before you ask................ .yes I am running the dreaded IE but normally I can cope with viruses
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tom U on March 07, 2015, 03:58:57 PM
I am browsing with Firefox, and have ESET as virus protection. No flags or warnings at all.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on March 07, 2015, 04:08:41 PM
Ive got Firefox installed and use it occasionally but grew up with IE and use that mainly.

BTW am I right is saying viruses or should it be virii  :confused1: ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on March 07, 2015, 06:28:11 PM
So the good lady and I travelled up to Inverness last night, we had booked a nice B&B for a couple of nights, planned to enjoy the town this morning and go watch Raith v Inverness in the cup this afternoon.  It was a bit wet and windy overnight but nothing (seemingly) major.  As we wandered round the town my brother called me to let me know the match was cancelled due to a waterlogged pitch.
So we then went in search of Inverness Model centre, what a waste of time, what was left of the shop was pretty much devoid of anything railway related, we were in there all of 30 secs.
And just to finish it all off I had been experiencing muscle spasms in my back and ended up in so much pain I had to go to Raigmore Hospital A&E where I was issued with lots of Diazepam.

So £120 for the B&B, about £50 for fuel, plus meals for one of the most disastrous weekends ever and we have the journey home tomorrow to look forward to in storm force winds and persistent heavy rain.
Fed up?  :censored: right I am  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on March 07, 2015, 06:49:23 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on March 07, 2015, 06:28:11 PM

Fed up?  :censored: right I am  :veryangry:

Sorry to hear your tale of woe, now you know why I decided to live down here.   :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 07, 2015, 08:21:23 PM
Not a lot you can say about that weekend, Lawrence :(
Probably best not to ask how you got the back spasms on a dirty weekend away, though :) :no:
Gissa call when you're down from the ceiling, mate :laugh3:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 08, 2015, 02:12:55 AM
Bit of a shame, Lawrence, 'cos I was quite impressed with Inverness on my short lunchtime visit in 2013. Had a good feed in the J.D. Wetherspoons there. Hope your back's on the mend.  :thumbsup:

In the meantime, look what appeared just above my newly installed 3-bowl urinal fountain the other day.  :veryangry:
[smg id=22368 type=preview align=center width=400]
[smg id=22369 type=preview align=center width=400]
How dare it. :veryangry: Needless to say it didn't stay there long.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Claude Dreyfus on March 08, 2015, 02:14:13 PM
Purchased an new DVD/BlueRay player last weekend. Tried to install it today, but wait...I have the TV, I have the DVD player and I have a power lead for said DVD player, but do I have an means to connect TV to DVD player?

No

I didn't realise that the means to connect one to the other is an optional accessory (and one which has an rrp of £25.00 - nearly 50% of what I paid for the player itself!).

My wife, who is an accountant, did tell me the technical term for producing the item itself for very little, and then charge a fortune for additions and consumables (see printers and the price of an ink cartridge!).

I have a word for this as well...in fact a number of words!

:censored:  :censored: and even  :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on March 08, 2015, 02:25:15 PM
Quote from: Claude Dreyfus on March 08, 2015, 02:14:13 PM

I have a word for this as well...in fact a number of words!

:censored:  :censored: and even  :censored:

and there's also  :censored: and quite probably  :censored: as a follow-up!

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on March 08, 2015, 02:34:18 PM
Quote from: Claude Dreyfus on March 08, 2015, 02:14:13 PM
Purchased an new DVD/BlueRay player last weekend. Tried to install it today, but wait...I have the TV, I have the DVD player and I have a power lead for said DVD player, but do I have an means to connect TV to DVD player?

No

I didn't realise that the means to connect one to the other is an optional accessory (and one which has an rrp of £25.00 - nearly 50% of what I paid for the player itself!).

Is the missing link an HDMI cable by any chance? If so I trust you didn't actually pay that £25.00?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on March 08, 2015, 02:35:36 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 07, 2015, 08:21:23 PM
Not a lot you can say about that weekend, Lawrence :(
Probably best not to ask how you got the back spasms on a dirty weekend away, though :) :no:
Gissa call when you're down from the ceiling, mate :laugh3:

Unfortunately the spasms started on the drive up, so the weekend was always going to be missing a little something, didn't think it would turn out so bad though  :(
Anyway we are home now, popped into the Strathspey Steam Railway at Boat of Garten on the way down, they need to rename it to Strathspey Railway though, nothing that uses coal in sight, did take some piccies which I will post, eventually.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Claude Dreyfus on March 08, 2015, 02:41:12 PM
Quote from: railsquid on March 08, 2015, 02:34:18 PM
Quote from: Claude Dreyfus on March 08, 2015, 02:14:13 PM
Purchased an new DVD/BlueRay player last weekend. Tried to install it today, but wait...I have the TV, I have the DVD player and I have a power lead for said DVD player, but do I have any means to connect TV to DVD player?

No

I didn't realise that the means to connect one to the other is an optional accessory (and one which has an rrp of £25.00 - nearly 50% of what I paid for the player itself!).

Is the missing link an HDMI cable by any chance? If so I trust you didn't actually pay that £25.00?

Yes, the missing link is the HDMI cable, and worry not, I have not actually bought one yet...but when I do Hades will freeze over before I stump up £25.00 for one of those...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on March 08, 2015, 03:06:21 PM
Quote from: Claude Dreyfus on March 08, 2015, 02:41:12 PM
Quote from: railsquid on March 08, 2015, 02:34:18 PM
Quote from: Claude Dreyfus on March 08, 2015, 02:14:13 PM
Purchased an new DVD/BlueRay player last weekend. Tried to install it today, but wait...I have the TV, I have the DVD player and I have a power lead for said DVD player, but do I have any means to connect TV to DVD player?

No

I didn't realise that the means to connect one to the other is an optional accessory (and one which has an rrp of £25.00 - nearly 50% of what I paid for the player itself!).

Is the missing link an HDMI cable by any chance? If so I trust you didn't actually pay that £25.00?

Yes, the missing link is the HDMI cable, and worry not, I have not actually bought one yet...but when I do Hades will freeze over before I stump up £25.00 for one of those...
I have no idea what the market for HDMI cables is like in the UK, but I don't imagine you'd need to pay much more than a fiver (unless you want a super-duper gold-plated one with platinum wire and diamond-encrusted plugs).

Look at it on the positive side - once you have the cable, it will probably outlast the DVD player, though there's always the risk that The Industry will decide to come up with some whole new standard. (Anyone need a SCART cable BTW?)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on March 08, 2015, 03:24:46 PM
Poundland sell them ( 1 meter) , though I don't know
if they all have a standard fitting.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 08, 2015, 03:35:13 PM
They should have a standard fitting, but the very cheap ones are sometimes poor quality. However, at a £1, you have very little to lose (well £1, to be exact)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Claude Dreyfus on March 08, 2015, 03:40:45 PM
I'll wander down to the local Maplin tomorrow lunchtime...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on March 08, 2015, 03:50:02 PM
I think Maplins is same as the Poundland one,
but about 7 x  dearer.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tdm on March 08, 2015, 04:25:21 PM
Took a friend to purchase a new LG TV & DVD Player/Recorder the other day (he said he was not technically minded and wanted someone to advise him on his purchases and set it up).

Forgot to ask the shopkeeper if it came with an HDMI cable - and when we got it home discovered - No it didn't.

However a guy in the local snooker hall I know who does TV & Internet installations said he had a van full of HDMI cables and gave us one for free.

I'm surprised the latest DVD recorders don't come with an HDMI cable as they no longer come with a Scart outlet connection - only HDMI, svideo, and phono outlets.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on March 08, 2015, 06:20:36 PM
As it happens I found myself in the opposite situation when I bought my Sony HD recorder.

Seems Sony supply HDMI cables with such things, so I returned the cable I had in the basket to its location in the shop (btw I hate it when I see stuff just shoved around the store in random places).

The only HDMI cable I have bought was a "fancy" one I got in a shop closing down clearance for £7.00 (RRP £30.00).

Most of the reading I have done on the subject suggests that, unless it really is bargain basement, most people struggle to tell the difference between "high end" and "normal" HDMI cables.

Just my experience  :thumbsup:

Skyline2uk 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on March 09, 2015, 12:40:02 AM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on March 08, 2015, 06:20:36 PM
Most of the reading I have done on the subject suggests that, unless it really is bargain basement, most people struggle to tell the difference between "high end" and "normal" HDMI cables.

Skyline2uk 

Knowing someone who knows his stuff about these and SCART cables etc he 100% agrees with you.

When I bought my last TV I told the salesman I wouldn't buy his £699 item unless he gave me an HDMI cable for nothing. He got the sale. Also threw (not literally) in some screen cleaning stuff.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: JBQFC on March 09, 2015, 07:55:34 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 04, 2015, 09:30:28 PM
Quote from: JBQFC on March 04, 2015, 09:11:49 PM
Quote from: JBQFC on February 20, 2015, 08:13:20 PM
oh well feeling good only lasted two weeks
now back to having stomach pains and feeling tired all the time
back to the doctors next week i guess  :censored:

off to see my consultant tomorrow and guess what no symptoms for three days  >:(

now no stomach pain for 10 day good
but i now have a chest infection  :censored:

Not to wish ill health on you, but good luck :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 09, 2015, 09:23:20 PM
Bummer :(
I've had what I believe to be a chest infection for 3 months now and am due to see a cardiologist next Monday :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 09, 2015, 09:28:43 PM
Gawd... hope it all goes well, Mick!  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on March 09, 2015, 09:37:03 PM
Me too!
Hope it isn't anything serious!
Best wishes, Steve
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mk1gtstu on March 09, 2015, 09:48:36 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 09, 2015, 09:23:20 PM
Bummer :(
I've had what I believe to be a chest infection for 3 months now and am due to see a cardiologist next Monday :worried:

Hope it all goes well for you  :beers:

Cheers, Stu.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 09, 2015, 10:19:58 PM
Fingers crossed Mick, keep us posted.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on March 10, 2015, 01:51:49 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 09, 2015, 09:23:20 PM
Bummer :(
I've had what I believe to be a chest infection for 3 months now and am due to see a cardiologist next Monday :worried:

Do you think he'll find a heart in there Mick?  :D Good luck anyway  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on March 10, 2015, 07:33:16 AM
Know where you're coming from, Mick.

All the best and hope you feel loads better very soon.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: port perran on March 10, 2015, 07:55:37 AM
Hope everything is OK MIck and hope you start to feel better soon.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 10, 2015, 09:55:16 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on March 10, 2015, 01:51:49 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 09, 2015, 09:23:20 PM
Bummer :(
I've had what I believe to be a chest infection for 3 months now and am due to see a cardiologist next Monday :worried:

Do you think he'll find a heart in there Mick?  :D Good luck anyway  :thumbsup:

Nah - just a swinging brick, John ;)
Cheers.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 11, 2015, 01:12:17 PM
Oh dear, readers. The air at Newport Nobby's Nursery for Numpties (and wilfully immature people) turned a shocking shade of blue yesterday as I tried without success to locate the fence bars into the fence posts of some Peco Lineside Fencing :veryangry:
It was pointless me tearing hair out as I couldn't find any (apart from on the cat) :(
I will persevere and have further attempts but if unsuccessful again, said item may find itself in the bin :unimpressed:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on March 11, 2015, 04:16:17 PM
That exercise, Mick, is ten times worse than trying to thread a needle so can more than understand the liberal use of 'Anglo Saxon' / Basin English. :-X

As for hair and cat; I have little left of the former but we've been trying to adopt an aged moggie (11 years) from the local rescue centre for the last 3 weeks but they are so s l o w at responding to visits and calls.

Dave G

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on March 11, 2015, 07:41:16 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 11, 2015, 01:12:17 PM
Oh dear, readers. The air at Newport Nobby's Nursery for Numpties (and wilfully immature people) turned a shocking shade of blue yesterday as I tried without success to locate the fence bars into the fence posts of some Peco Lineside Fencing :veryangry:
It was pointless me tearing hair out as I couldn't find any (apart from on the cat) :(
I will persevere and have further attempts but if unsuccessful again, said item may find itself in the bin :unimpressed:

Locating them is hard as you've discovered, fixing them so they don't come apart is another challenge, I ended up dabbing the tip of a hot soldering iron on them to weld the blighters togethers.   ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on March 11, 2015, 08:54:51 PM
Quote from: daveg on March 11, 2015, 04:16:17 PM
That exercise, Mick, is ten times worse than trying to thread a needle so can more than understand the liberal use of 'Anglo Saxon' / Basin English. :-X

As for hair and cat; I have little left of the former but we've been trying to adopt an aged moggie (11 years) from the local rescue centre for the last 3 weeks but they are so s l o w at responding to visits and calls.

Dave G

Maybe the moggie will respond better when it gets to know you.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on March 12, 2015, 07:29:45 AM
 :laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:

Waiting for the purrfect moment, perhaps?

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 12, 2015, 07:39:36 AM
 :sick: I'm movin' this to the bad jokes thread  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DELETED on March 12, 2015, 11:37:17 AM
QuoteSo the good lady and I travelled up to Inverness last night, we had booked a nice B&B for a couple of nights, planned to enjoy the town this morning and go watch Raith v Inverness in the cup this afternoon.  It was a bit wet and windy overnight but nothing (seemingly) major.  As we wandered round the town my brother called me to let me know the match was cancelled due to a waterlogged pitch.
So we then went in search of Inverness Model centre, what a waste of time, what was left of the shop was pretty much devoid of anything railway related, we were in there all of 30 secs.
And just to finish it all off I had been experiencing muscle spasms in my back and ended up in so much pain I had to go to Raigmore Hospital A&E where I was issued with lots of Diazepam.

So £120 for the B&B, about £50 for fuel, plus meals for one of the most disastrous weekends ever and we have the journey home tomorrow to look forward to in storm force winds and persistent heavy rain.
Fed up?  :censored: right I am  :veryangry:

That's a shame you didn't have a good time, I've been here for 10 years now and it's such a nice place to live (if a little behind the times still) compared to most other parts of the country!   The shop in the Victorian market really has very little to offer.  I think it's ironic that there's actually quite a good combined small model and fishing shop tucked away in  Dingwall.  It actually does more n gauge than I've found pretty much anywhere in Scotland so far, barring Harburn Hobbies!  I've got quite a few things from there and nip in every now and again when I get the chance to see what they have.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on March 12, 2015, 06:37:19 PM
Had the layout apart for a couple of days adding more reed switches embedded in the track.  Was working on the Bampney Station module and accidentally knocked it over and it crashed to the floor with one hell of a thud.    :'(

Goods shed totally obliterated, 2 Dapol semaphore signals broken, back wall of station come adrift, chimney and chimney stacks broken off of 2 houses plus the chimney stacks on Bampney station have also broken. Managed to find some of the bits but still missing two chimney stacks.

Not a happy teddy.   :(    :veryangry2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on March 12, 2015, 06:42:15 PM
My sympathy! It's enfuriating when hours of work goes down the pan.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on March 12, 2015, 07:22:43 PM
Commiserations, Caz!

Hope you find the missing bits.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 12, 2015, 08:37:00 PM
 :smackedface:
Sorry to hear that, Caz. :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on March 12, 2015, 08:48:13 PM
Sorry to hear of your accident Caz but I know with your skill you will soon have it repaired and running again ,good luck .
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ozzie Bill. on March 12, 2015, 08:55:49 PM
I have now been working as a sessional lecturer for 5 weeks at a local tertiary college. Due to an "administrative oversight" (read - they forgot to tell me) I did not get a police check in time for the 1st fortnightly pay period. The "administrator" then refused to sign off my pay, as I had not got the piece of paper, despite the fact it was her fault. I duly went and got the bit of paper, but by then it was, apparently, too late for the second pay period as well!! Now well into the 3rd pay period and I have still not been paid.
As this is a facility that is supposed to teach management, I find it incredible that they are so flaming useless at managing their own affairs.
What really pees me off, is that no one seems to care.
rant over, thanks for reading.
Cheers, Bill.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 12, 2015, 10:12:37 PM
I care, buddy. I see it so often here in the Illawarra. Incompetence.... strange how it always seems to involve money.

Caz... chin up! As Bob says, you'll have it back together in no time, and most probably BETTER.  :thumbsup:

George
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on March 13, 2015, 08:25:09 AM
Hi Bill,
I expect that if you owed them they would be a lot quicker.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on March 13, 2015, 09:27:02 AM
I worked for a 'team development/building' business.

Got little respect for the effort put in and rarely if ever apologised for their mistakes. Always found something that wasn't right!

Seems the problem is universal.  :(

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 13, 2015, 09:34:26 AM
Try charging them interest on missed payments, Bill. It seems to work for the UK tax man.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ozzie Bill. on March 13, 2015, 10:05:19 AM
Thanks guys. It has been with the "HR" dep't all day and I have just heard that the "case is resolved and everything is fine as I will be paid IN THE NEXT PAY RUN"!!
I am now seriously unhappy and will go in Monday and tell them to pay me there and then or I walk. Thankfully I need them a whole lot less than they need me.
Cheers, Bill
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 13, 2015, 12:23:14 PM
 :laughabovepost: Now ya talkin'!

I told Mrs Bealman about it, and though she finds NGF as about as interesting as farming galahs, she did express concern that you would get paid in one lump and then taxed like all you-know-what.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 13, 2015, 12:29:15 PM
Quote from: Bealman on March 13, 2015, 12:23:14 PM

farming galahs
Not quite sure what a galah is, George. I thought it was a red coloured parrot type thingy. Or does it have a different Antipodean meaning? Whatever, it is a phrase I'm sure I'll be able to drop into a conversation, as long as you tell me it's clean. :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on March 13, 2015, 12:32:00 PM
The other day I was listening to the radio and one of the presenters said he could not stand people calling him Mate or Pal, Urghh I am sorry but you have put your self in this position wanting people to like you by becoming a presenter.

What do they want, oh yeah the money..

wonder if it was on the BBC Mmmm.

Ahhhh  :veryangry:

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on March 13, 2015, 12:34:34 PM
I think a galah is a galoot, fool, numpty. halfwit etc, the phrase
was used by Barry Mckenzie (creation of Barry Humphries).
No doubt any  Ozzies will correct if wrong.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 13, 2015, 12:43:41 PM
Quote from: Malc on March 13, 2015, 12:29:15 PM
Quote from: Bealman on March 13, 2015, 12:23:14 PM

farming galahs
Not quite sure what a galah is, George. I thought it was a red coloured parrot type thingy. Or does it have a different Antipodean meaning? Whatever, it is a phrase I'm sure I'll be able to drop into a conversation, as long as you tell me it's clean. :D

Yes, Malc, that's exactly what it is. A big red breasted, gray winged bird. Agrippa  is correct too.... there's an Aussie saying : "You stupid galah", and rightly so.

They are the most stupid birds you'd ever find. Hence the Barry Humphries reference.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jon898 on March 13, 2015, 12:47:09 PM
Galah is a Rose Breasted Cockatoo.  Native to Australia and a major crop pest there, highly desireable as a cage bird elsewhere but, because they cannot be wild-caught and exported, are ridiculously expensive.  Word was (and maybe is) used to denote a loud-mouthed idiot (goofy behaviour, raucous calls).  I suspect "farming galahs" comes from the concept that they are ubiquitous in Oz and thus would need zero effort to farm...even if you wanted to.  Of course, outside Oz farming Galahs is difficult and can be profitable if you devote time to it (going rate in the US is around $1500 per bird).

Now I'll duck for the corrections coming from below.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 13, 2015, 12:58:48 PM
$1500 a bird? Now yer putting ideas into me head, bonny lad.... except I think they're protected.

Convince me when they poo on ya. :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ozzie Bill. on March 13, 2015, 08:13:08 PM
Sadly they are protected, like cockies. Very destructive and there are just a few (million) too many in some areas.
We'll see what Monday brings. Hopefully I'll be able to switch to The Happy Thread!!
Cheers, Bill.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 13, 2015, 09:27:33 PM
A mate of mine returned from a trip to Oz and moaned like heck about the 'Flamin Galahs' which evidently cause many a smashed car windscreen ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ozzie Bill. on March 13, 2015, 10:39:44 PM
Yup, galahs, 'roos and wombats are blamed for a lot of single vehicle outback accidents! Bill.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 13, 2015, 10:45:56 PM
Don't know what it's like up your way, Bill, but we have what you could call a cockatoo infestation here at the moment.

Good luck with your pay next week.   :thumbsup:

George
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on March 13, 2015, 10:49:14 PM
Pictures please do not be affraid to post, we can change it into wanted dead or alive.

That bottle of Riojah was nice..hic
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ozzie Bill. on March 14, 2015, 12:37:14 AM
Not too bad at the moment, they've all flown north. I'll keep you updated re the pay. Hopefully over on the happy thread! Cheers, Bill.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on March 14, 2015, 07:16:03 AM
I've not seen any  perhaps I don't live far enough north :confused2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on March 18, 2015, 11:26:39 AM
 :-[ My fault and nobody else's but l pressed the 'mark all threads read' button as  I left the board so now I have no idea what I have read and what people posted before yesterday afternoon  :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 18, 2015, 11:43:17 AM
I'm sure you're not as bad as everyone was saying you were, Jon ;) >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on March 18, 2015, 01:11:41 PM
Don't worry Jon, a lot of members of the forum have exactly the same problem of not remembering what they have read and it has nothing to do with checking the 'mark all threads read' box  :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on March 18, 2015, 03:23:38 PM
I've done that on the odd ocasion and it's very anoying is there a means to delete a post at a time once you've read it instead of all posts at once?
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 18, 2015, 04:08:29 PM
Quote from: Bob Tidbury on March 18, 2015, 03:23:38 PM
I've done that on the odd ocasion and it's very anoying is there a means to delete a post at a time once you've read it instead of all posts at once?
Bob

Not sure I understand you, Bob, as once you've read a post it disappears off the list of unread posts anyway :confused2:
I'd like a way of deleting posts I'm not interested in before I read the ones left but I gather that's not possible, so I have to just read what I want and then hit the 'mark all messages as read'
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on March 18, 2015, 05:03:46 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 18, 2015, 04:08:29 PM
Not sure I understand you, Bob, as once you've read a post it disappears off the list of unread posts anyway :confused2:
Well ... not necessarily ...

I am on two Fora using this software - here & elsewhere.  Here we're on v2.09, the other is also on v2.09.  On the same PC, I get "unread posts" disappearing off the "unread posts" list - but not here  ???

Very strange behaviour ...  I also can't double-click a word & get it highlighted - but I can on the other one ...  ???

So all sessions for all people are not necessarily equal !!!

Mike

PS - if anyone can suggest a fix for the above - yes please !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on March 19, 2015, 04:33:40 PM
I took a short questionaire form  for a tenancy agreement into the local medical centre on Monday asking for it to be dealt with urgently so that I can get the keys and start moving items in and getting some appliances delivered.

Went in today to find out why it hadn't reached the letting agency, ---- still in the docs in tray!! It'll take the letting agency another week to do the rest of the procedures, take my money and get everything signed before I can get the keys; I have to be out of here on April 2nd, I had hoped to have 2 weekends to get help from mates to move stuff, now I'll be lucky to get one!

Ggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 19, 2015, 08:52:36 PM
There seems to be a theme running about docs/GP's performance :hmmm: >:(
Makes you wonder exactly what they do :unimpressed:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Blillpers on March 19, 2015, 09:40:12 PM
So, I have a package full of N-gauge stuff on order. Today, I came home to a note saying the delivery man couldn't deliver because I wasn't at home at the time - far enough. At the post office, however, I was told my package had been shipped back to the sorting center about 200 miles away, only to be shipped back tomorrow. I have no idea who came up with this "brilliant" idea, and he should hope he won't meet me any time soon  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 19, 2015, 11:13:20 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 19, 2015, 08:52:36 PM
There seems to be a theme running about docs/GP's performance :hmmm: >:(
Makes you wonder exactly what they do :unimpressed:

not much in my recent experience.

my six and a half year old grandson was taken to the out of hours doctor at the local hospital on the Saturday evening when he had been ill for a week, complaining of severe stomach ache. he had been to his GP on the Wednesday and had been diagnosed with gastro-enteritis.

OOH doctor said it was gastro, took urine, stool and blood samples and told my daughter to phone her GP on the Monday for the results.

on the sunday afternoon he was in agony, and she phone the local children's hospital, the Alex in Brighton, and was told to take him down straight away.

he was examined and admitted with suspected appendicitis, and the appendix burst about 0300 on the Monday.

he was in theatre that afternoon for nearly four and a half hours, and is still in hospital nearly three weeks later, and after two more ops. looking like at least another three weeks in hospital.

as you can guess, e-mail complaint to the CEO of the local health trust, which was replied to within two hours although my e-mail was not sent till around 18.30hrs. now awaiting further response after his investigation.

needless to say, if I come across the OOH doctor, they are likely to need one themselves.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on March 20, 2015, 12:01:57 AM
Hopefully that is not a typical case though nowadays though I'm not sure.
Many years ago I was about 13 and my older cousin who was about
16 had started work. She was sick every day and went to the gp
who told her that " you young girls spend all your money on
hot dogs, cola and chewing gum ". Two days later she collapsed
at work with a burst appendix which became peritonitis and died
2-3 days later. That doctor should have been booted out as unfit
to treat a dog, but in those days doctors were regarded as
establishment figures.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 20, 2015, 09:20:02 AM
Quote from: Agrippa on March 20, 2015, 12:01:57 AM
That doctor should have been booted out as unfit
to treat a dog,

actually, my local vet is ace.

perhaps my daughter should have taken him there  :no:

you can get an appointment .......

you usually get seen on time ......

the receptionist is helpful ........

and you usually see the same vet ........

nothing like the doctors  :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Rabs on March 20, 2015, 02:22:09 PM
Yep.
I broke my shoulder a few weeks ago (no need for sympathy, it was my own stupid fault) and in A&E I was told that I needed an emergency scan within a week to determine if I needed surgery before the healing process caused the bits of bone to re-attach in the wrong places.
After 2 weeks I phoned to ask what was going on.  After six attempts of the phone ringing and ringing for several minutes someone did eventually answer.  The conversation was, almost word for word:

"Hello, I'm .. etc.  I'm just calling to find out..." (Politely phrased questions, I'm not the sort to come on all 'entitled')
"Yes, you have an appointment"
[Pause]
"Ok, thank you.  When is it?
"[Deep sigh] 9:15"
[Pause]
"Do you mean tomorrow?"
"[Snort of laughter] No, the 19th" (2 weeks later)
[Pause]
"... Ok, and where is it"
"Clinic 1"
"And where is that?" (Starting to get a little annoyed by this point)
"At the hospital"

At which point I had to bite back the first five responses that came to mind.

On going to this appointment I arrived to see a large sign saying that there had recently been a series of 'verbal abuse incidents' and a large statement that these would 'not be tolerated'.  Based on my experience above I can't for the life of me imagine why people might want to scream at the rude, incompetent moron behind the desk of that particular clinic and I'm sure that all of those incidents were completely unjustified and entirely the patients' fault. 

I also find out that the appointment isn't a scan, just an appointment to see a consultant.  Who took a five second look at the the A&E x-rays and said that I needed a scan.  As politely as I could I pointed out that I already knew that, because that's what they said in A&E two weeks earlier. It turns out that this appointment was a complete waste of his time and mine, he didn't even examine me and it could all have been done over the phone.  Better yet, the scan could have been ordered when I came into A&E.

A week later I receive a letter to say that my scan is booked for 6 weeks time (9 weeks after the accident).  By that time the bones will have fused and there's virtually no point in doing it because there won't be anything that they can do.

Compared to the vets, who would  in not more than three days would do the emergency work, have the consultation, refer you to the expert, have the scan, decide on a surgical plan and perform the operation if necessary.  All for a fraction of what the taxpayer is having to pay for the 'treatment' I'm getting.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 20, 2015, 03:03:24 PM
I had a similar problem when I damaged my Achilles tendon in my ankle. I waited 2 months to see if it got better, then I went to the doc. He said I needed some ultrasound treatment and he would make an appointment. It came through for 4 months time, and it was only to see a consultant. About 2 weeks before my appointment, I was better, so cancelled it. The secretary I spoke to said that they had a lot of cancellations, due to people getting better. I said I wondered why.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 20, 2015, 04:21:08 PM
My Mum damaged her Achilles tendon and our doctor, an Egyptian, wouldn't touch her feet so she had to go to the hospital for treatment :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on March 20, 2015, 04:56:00 PM
While on the subject of hospitals I have to have an Endoscopy every two years to check for stomach cancer I'm a complete coward and have to be sedated as I cannot swallow the camera as such I'm not allowed to drive home and have to have someone to take me home,this time Instead of having it at my local hospital in High Wycombe Ive got to go to Milton Keynes which is about 30 to 40 miles away  so I rang the hospital in Milton Keynes to ask how I was supposed to get there and then back home after the sedation and was told that's not thier problem they can't pick me up or take me home .The upshot is I won't get the Endosopy done so will have to take my chances and if I get cancer I'll die a bit quicker than normal ,it's stupid when the Endoscopy unit is still at Wycombe and my next door neighbour had his only last week at Wycombe we have the largest population in Buckinghamshire but we have to go about  20 miles for A&E and women also have to go to the same hospital to have a baby To be fair Stoke Mandevile is a much newer hospital than Wycombe but imagine if there is a complicated birth and the woman and baby die on the way and it's not exactly a very good road between Wycombe and Stoke Mandevile.
Anyway Rant over and it won't get any better so I'll stop before I blow my top.
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on March 20, 2015, 06:09:54 PM
Greetings,
Ah yes, hospitals improving the service by making you travel further. Last year I needed a hernia operation so after diagnosis by the doctor I had to have an appointment at the hospital for the consultant to confirm I needed an operation. Fair enough and I was seen on time and it only took a couple of minutes. You then have to go in for a pre-op or paper filling exercise which again only took 15 minutes or so then finally the operation. All very convenient as I can see the hospital from my house and even when out being a postie it is only a 10 minute drive away.
So you may be asking what was the problem? None, but courtesy of my employers complete inability to follow a doctors certificate 6 months later I need to have the operation again! I know the routine so I've been waiting for the first appointment for the 2 minutes for the consultant to confirm diagnosis. The appointment duly arrived but now outpatient appointments are in Bexhill, 11 miles away, so rather than quickly popping in I end up having to take a day off work. The pre-op appointment was in Hastings 16 miles away (another day off) as will be the operation next week. I won't be able to drive afterwards so the wife will have to take a day off work to drop me off at 8am then go home and wait for the call to come back and get me.
All the equipment is sitting there in Eastbourne to carry out the operation but it is more efficient to carry it out 16 miles away and let the dust collect at home.
Not something I have to worry about but now if you are having a baby you are best going to Hastings. There are midwifes in Eastbourne but they can only cope with routine births. Any sign of trouble and you are whisked away to Hastings.
You may be thinking 'it's only 16 miles' but Hastings hospital is a good 3-4 miles from a station and from here takes 45 minutes by car if you are lucky.
There were numerous campaigns to save the services at Eastbourne's hospital all of which were won! They then snuck the changes in through the back door citing staff shortages etc.
Gareth
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DELETED on March 21, 2015, 11:50:50 PM
Votes for school kids really winds me up and is in the news constantly.  Sorry I'm not a believer, in 16/17 getting the vote, neither is anyone else I now yet it still seems to be promoted :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on March 22, 2015, 09:44:21 AM
Seems like the Hospital problem is every where judging by  the brightons post and other posts on the forum.
Why can't they go back to the old system where a Matron was in charge of her hospital and new what was the best way to run it and what was best for the people in the area ,instead of all the pen pushers and paper rustlers that think they are so important. One hospital in the south was reported to have gone back to that system and they saved over One Million pounds in a year by buying thier own equipment a thing called a stent ended up costing only £68 from the same supplier against over £100 through the NH Trust  not a lot on its own but a saving like that soon adds up. Apparently the surgeon himself contacted the supplier and purchased them direct ,Imagine the saving all over the country.
It is the same in Industry it all boils down to the old saying Too many chiefs and not enough Indians . Please don't start a race thread on here you know what I mean.
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on March 22, 2015, 09:53:20 PM
I suppose I am lucky the hospital where I am going on Tuesday for a opp is 20mins drive or 2 buses, away in Bury . They have cut the maternity ward's at Bury so If I had been pregnant I would have had to go to Rochdale ,at least 40 mins by car and probably 3 buses. . It seems to be the same everywhere cuts to services and no help to anybody who wants to visit you in hospital, and I am not going into parking fee's at hospitals that will make me angry. Lucky for me my son is going to drop me off at the hospital, I will probably get a taxi home.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on March 22, 2015, 10:56:37 PM
Quote from: lil chris on March 22, 2015, 09:53:20 PM
If I had been pregnant I would have had to go to Rochdale
I think that if you'd been pregnant, you'd end up in a much better hospital - with an awful lot of specialists examining you constantly !  :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on March 23, 2015, 06:42:12 AM
Quote from: MikeDunn on March 22, 2015, 10:56:37 PM
Quote from: lil chris on March 22, 2015, 09:53:20 PM
If I had been pregnant I would have had to go to Rochdale
I think that if you'd been pregnant, you'd end up in a much better hospital - with an awful lot of specialists examining you constantly !  :P

...and a queue a mile long of folk wanting to be your manager!  :D

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jon898 on March 23, 2015, 05:01:35 PM
Just back from the dentist.  They decided I needed a "deep cleaning" and said it would have to be done with anaesthetic.  Little did I know that included four "palatal injections" into the roof of my mouth.  AAARGH!  Then to make matters worse, he hit the nerve that serves my tongue on one side instead of the nerve serving the lower left teeth  :veryangry:  felt like he'd stabbed my tongue with a red hot poker.  He apologised and then promptly did it again.  Now I've got numbtongue for the next 6 hours.  Oh, and the rinse he prescribed for the next ten days will probably stain my teeth green  :o (although that might be appropriate for my trip to Ireland at the end of May  :-X)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on March 23, 2015, 08:22:53 PM
Very funny guys.....I knew I made a mistake posting that, but you have to have a laugh.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ozzie Bill. on March 24, 2015, 09:55:59 AM
Very sad and very angry. A dear and long held friend, 55 years of friendship. Met him at kindergarten! He decided he'd had enough so died by suicide last week. I can't believe that he is no longer around. We'd been mates for ever and I am really angry with him. I cannot know what he was going through, so must not be too angry and I need to find forgiveness for him, but I am hurting at the moment. Sorry for the grumble, but just needed to get it off my chest. Cheers, Bill.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 24, 2015, 10:40:25 AM
So sorry to hear that, Bill. :(
I hope you can find it in your heart to forgive him as he was obviously 'in a bad place' and could see no other way out.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: REGP on March 24, 2015, 11:04:55 AM
Bill, it's always difficult when you loose a buddy unexpectedly, only more so in those circumstances.
As Mick says he must have been in a "very bad place" hopefully in time you can see a way to forgive.

Ray
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on March 24, 2015, 01:53:31 PM
I can understand why you're angry Bill. I'm guessing you wish he'd shared whatever his troubles were with you in the hope you may have been able to help in some way and avoid his self-induced exit?  :(

Looking at it from his point-of-view for a moment (as I have unfortunately done in the past), when things are THAT bad you really don't want to burden anyone else with it and will actually go out of your way to hide it from others - admitting you can't cope with whatever is depressing you to that extreme is like admitting you've failed at life. 

Try not to be too hard on him, I know it's not the ideal outcome but the one bit of solace you may find is that whatever it was that drove him to it can torment him no longer.


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on March 24, 2015, 05:05:57 PM
Aaaaargh,
As I mentioned the other day I'm due a second hernia op tomorrow along the coast in Hastings rather than in Eastbourne so SWMBO has had to take the day off work to transport me then collect me later in the day. Child care also had to be arranged as I need to be in Hastings by 8am just when my son is on his way to school. I hadn't expected the op quite so quickly so being a Scout leader had a camp organised for this weekend (I'm the permit holder etc) so had to cancel it at short notice.
Anyway at 4.25 the hospital rang to rearrange it for next week..........................
Gareth
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 25, 2015, 09:47:42 AM
I was due to have a Spirometry test (lung capacity to you and me) this afternoon but the hospital have just phoned to say the lady who does the tests has fallen ill so they have deferred the test until 13th April.
It's really good to know there's no excess staffing at Chorley Hospital, eh.
God bless the NHS :veryangry2: :help:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 25, 2015, 11:01:05 AM
I suppose the only up side is that they phoned before either of you set out for the hospital. My aunt had an appointment for an MRI scan cancelled because the wing of the hospital had a power cut. Mick, before you say anything, I know hospitals can't fly!  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 25, 2015, 12:32:24 PM
Quote from: Malc on March 25, 2015, 11:01:05 AM
I suppose the only up side is that they phoned before either of you set out for the hospital. My aunt had an appointment for an MRI scan cancelled because the wing of the hospital had a power cut. Mick, before you say anything, I know hospitals can't fly!  :)

That's right. Go on, Malc. Take the fun out of everything :telloff:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on March 25, 2015, 12:52:26 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 25, 2015, 09:47:42 AM
I was due to have a Spirometry test (lung capacity to you and me) this afternoon but the hospital have just phoned to say the lady who does the tests has fallen ill so they have deferred the test until 13th April.
It's really good to know there's no excess staffing at Chorley Hospital, eh.
God bless the NHS :veryangry2: :help:

I used to have one of those Spirometry sets too. I made this with mine:

(http://onlinetoys.onlinetoysaustra.netdna-cdn.com/images/D/spirograph_deluxe3.jpg)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on March 25, 2015, 02:22:38 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 25, 2015, 09:47:42 AM
I was due to have a Spirometry test (lung capacity to you and me) this afternoon but the hospital have just phoned to
I was due one back in November but as I had been on medication (steroids) the week before the nurse had to cancel it after I had been waiting in the queue for 35 minutes.
You must be clear of such medications for 6 weeks before the test can be done  :censored: :veryangry: :veryangry:
(my previous test 2 years ago showed that I have the 'lung age' of someone 130 years old  :doh: :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 25, 2015, 04:04:27 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on March 25, 2015, 12:52:26 PM

I used to have one of those Spirometry sets too. I made this with mine:

(http://onlinetoys.onlinetoysaustra.netdna-cdn.com/images/D/spirograph_deluxe3.jpg)

:laughabovepost:

That's a pantograph, you stupid boy (Pike)

Quote from: jonclox on March 25, 2015, 02:22:38 PM

(my previous test 2 years ago showed that I have the 'lung age' of someone 130 years old  :doh: :o

You look well for your age then, Jon ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on March 25, 2015, 04:32:30 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 25, 2015, 04:04:27 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on March 25, 2015, 12:52:26 PM

I used to have one of those Spirometry sets too. I made this with mine:

(http://onlinetoys.onlinetoysaustra.netdna-cdn.com/images/D/spirograph_deluxe3.jpg)

:laughabovepost:

That's a pantograph, you stupid boy (Pike)


A Spirograph I think is what you mean.   ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on March 25, 2015, 04:48:38 PM
Bit out of season for a Panto?  :confused1:

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 25, 2015, 08:40:10 PM
Quote from: daveg on March 25, 2015, 04:48:38 PM
Bit out of season for a Panto?  :confused1:

Dave G

Bit out of breath for a Spiro :laugh:

Caz- yes. I was just carrying on the theme of misnaming things :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on March 26, 2015, 07:01:33 AM
FLEA BAY - ARRRGGGGHHHHHH

There was me, looking for a particular item, I found it, it had a "buy now or best offer" I submitted an offer, it was accepted but I could not pay as I was at work, 2 hours later when I got home I found out that the seller has removed the product............... AAARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 26, 2015, 07:28:19 AM
I'm due for a colonoscopy and an endoscopy at the same time. They'd better do the endo first!  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on March 26, 2015, 07:59:59 AM
Quote from: Bealman on March 26, 2015, 07:28:19 AM
I'm due for a colonoscopy and an endoscopy at the same time. They'd better do the endo first!  :D

Here's looking at you, kid.

Don't forget to smile, George! :camera:

Oh, and good luck with the checks.  ;)

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 26, 2015, 08:10:53 AM
I was more worried that I might need a toothpick  :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on March 26, 2015, 10:51:48 AM
Quote from: Bealman on March 26, 2015, 07:28:19 AM
I'm due for a colonoscopy and an endoscopy at the same time. They'd better do the endo first!  :D

Might as well have  a cistoscopy at the same time. :)
At least you'll find the video interesting,but they won't give you a copy of it to put on youtube.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 26, 2015, 11:32:32 AM
Quote from: Bealman on March 26, 2015, 07:28:19 AM
I'm due for a colonoscopy and an endoscopy at the same time. They'd better do the endo first!  :D
If they just keep pushing the scope, George, you would only need to go once. :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: petercharlesfagg on March 26, 2015, 01:01:10 PM
It isn't often that I allow myself to get angry, it isn't good for my complexion!

Nevertheless, after successfully running my new locomotive around my tracks for about 10 minutes something went awry and one of the bogies locked in the swivelled position, not the drive!

For my Christmas gift, my youngest stepson purchased for me the one locomotive apart from my "William Shakespere" that I REALLY wanted, a Dapol ND201E Class 66 GBRF 66720 "Childrens Graphic"!

I contacted Dapol, since it came direct from their shop and they in turn informed me to contact DCC supplies, which I've done!

It just makes me so p i ss e d off that something like that runs so smoothly when running-in but as soon as I put a full load of goods wagons, something happens!

What REALLY bugs me is that my stepson is visiting this weekend and wanted to see it running!!!!!

Steps down from soapbox!

Peter.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on March 26, 2015, 01:53:06 PM
Quote from: Bealman on March 26, 2015, 07:28:19 AM
I'm due for a colonoscopy and an endoscopy at the same time. They'd better do the endo first!  :D
Hmmm, I wonder if the consultants will wave at each other if they see each other  ???  :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on March 26, 2015, 04:38:12 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 25, 2015, 04:04:27 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on March 25, 2015, 12:52:26 PM

I used to have one of those Spirometry sets too. I made this with mine:

(http://onlinetoys.onlinetoysaustra.netdna-cdn.com/images/D/spirograph_deluxe3.jpg)

:laughabovepost:


Quote from: jonclox on March 25, 2015, 02:22:38 PM

(my previous test 2 years ago showed that I have the 'lung age' of someone 130 years old  :doh: :o

You look well for your age then, Jon ;)

Er.......... nope I spent many hours driving a pantograph and they look like this

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gravograph-Engraving-Machine-4-Line-Engraver-/151600379174?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item234c163526 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gravograph-Engraving-Machine-4-Line-Engraver-/151600379174?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item234c163526)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on March 26, 2015, 11:36:58 PM
Quote from: Bealman on March 26, 2015, 07:28:19 AM
I'm due for a colonoscopy and an endoscopy at the same time. They'd better do the endo first!  :D
Best of luck George, I had a colonoscopy on Tuesday, at least I will not need another for about 3 years now.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on March 27, 2015, 12:00:42 AM
Just added BBC News to the list of websites who have jumped on the lots-of-whitespace-and-large-text bandwagon. If I were very shortsighted and always view websights on a huge monitor with the browser window in fullscreen mode, it might be great... I presume this is actually a ploy by mouse and touchpad manufacturers and/or RSI consultants to increase wear-and-tear on their devices/your wrists by forcing you to scroll about 3 times as much as before.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on April 01, 2015, 11:40:02 AM
Greetings,
Finally had my hernia op yesterday so some time off work to do some modelling but had the same op last year so probably a couple of weeks before I can sit comfortably at my work bench :(
Anyway, I had to report to the hospital at 8am so no food after 8pm the night before and only water after midnight and none after 6.30am. Same as last year, I'd survive. So by 3.45pm when I went down for the op having sat in the waiting room for nearly 8 hours with just BBC1 to watch (no mobiles etc) I was not best pleased. They told me around 9am I was last on the list so why drag me in so early you may ask. The receptionist told me all the surgeons give op times so later ops are called in later. However my surgeon is new at the hospital and likes to do things differently. Cheers!
Gareth
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ozzie Bill. on April 01, 2015, 11:51:01 AM
Some weeks you just wonder why  you bother. First, an old mate, very close, dies by suicide. On Sunday, clutch blew in wife's car. Monday, mains water pipe burst on road behind our house, flooded yard, washed away garden, damaged foundations, damages various things outside. The water company are great to deal with, but everything has to go through the insurance company and they are, as is expected, being a total pack of :censored: . Don't really expect better, but it would have been nice. Then tonight the youngest comes home and tells us her workplace is being shut for 3.5 months so she is now without work for the next few months whilst they "renovate".
Ahh, good times, eh.
Please don't tell me to be positive, look up, things will get better or any of that other feel-good stuff. I survived cancer and all sorts of other crap, so will get through this as well, but just wondering why this has to keep happening.
Thanks for elistening, rant over.
Cheers, Bill.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on April 01, 2015, 12:47:03 PM
Quote from: ozzie Bill. on April 01, 2015, 11:51:01 AM

Ahh, good times,  just wondering why this has to keep happening.
Thanks for elistening, rant over.
Cheers, Bill.
Perhaps you were a very naughty boy in a previous existence Bill. ;) But as you say, you'll get through it, it's just that you seem to have a year's bad luck all at once.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on April 04, 2015, 11:00:33 AM
 :veryangry: Woke up at 2AM with ear ache/infection   :censored: its bad enough to keep me awake ever sinse. Have some antibiotics handy so that I can hit any chest infection early on so have started taking those to see if they will help  :-\  :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on April 04, 2015, 11:20:27 AM
Have you tried a few drops of warm olive oil in your ear Jon? It can be effective if the ache is a build up of wax.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on April 04, 2015, 11:46:54 AM
Quote from: Malc on April 04, 2015, 11:20:27 AM
Have you tried a few drops of warm olive oil in your ear Jon? It can be effective if the ache is a build up of wax.
:) Wow   :doh: I remember my mother applying that to me when I was just a squigglet
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on April 04, 2015, 11:47:55 AM
You should always do what mother tells you!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on April 04, 2015, 11:50:19 AM
Quote from: Malc on April 04, 2015, 11:47:55 AM
You should always do what mother tells you!
Yes mum
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on April 04, 2015, 02:03:20 PM
Or have a tall glass of Jamesons, and when empty repeat until the world slips out of focus, BINGO ear ache gone  :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on April 07, 2015, 02:45:22 PM
Quote from: paulprice on April 04, 2015, 02:03:20 PM
Or have a tall glass of Jamesons, and when empty repeat until the world slips out of focus, BINGO ear ache gone  :laugh:
Not so much gone as migrated to the frontal lobes.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 07, 2015, 03:34:47 PM
Quote from: railsquid on April 07, 2015, 02:45:22 PM
Quote from: paulprice on April 04, 2015, 02:03:20 PM
Or have a tall glass of Jamesons, and when empty repeat until the world slips out of focus, BINGO ear ache gone  :laugh:
Not so much gone as migrated to the frontal lobes.

You have 2 sets of lobes to your ears ??? :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on April 07, 2015, 03:40:45 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 07, 2015, 03:34:47 PM
Quote from: railsquid on April 07, 2015, 02:45:22 PM
Quote from: paulprice on April 04, 2015, 02:03:20 PM
Or have a tall glass of Jamesons, and when empty repeat until the world slips out of focus, BINGO ear ache gone  :laugh:
Not so much gone as migrated to the frontal lobes.

You have 2 sets of lobes to your ears ??? :o
A left ear, a right ear, and a Final Front Ear.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 07, 2015, 09:23:27 PM
Quote from: railsquid on April 07, 2015, 03:40:45 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 07, 2015, 03:34:47 PM
Quote from: railsquid on April 07, 2015, 02:45:22 PM
Quote from: paulprice on April 04, 2015, 02:03:20 PM
Or have a tall glass of Jamesons, and when empty repeat until the world slips out of focus, BINGO ear ache gone  :laugh:
Not so much gone as migrated to the frontal lobes.

You have 2 sets of lobes to your ears ??? :o
A left ear, a right ear, and a Final Front Ear.

:laughabovepost: :thankyousign:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on April 07, 2015, 11:42:18 PM
If I could squeeze into my Liddle End Tardis, I'd go back in time and ensure that "Del Prado" never made their cowdungy display models which pollute Ebay searches for "N-gauge"  :veryangry: :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on April 08, 2015, 01:39:16 AM
Quote from: railsquid on April 07, 2015, 11:42:18 PM
If I could squeeze into my Liddle End Tardis, I'd go back in time and ensure that "Del Prado" never made their cowdungy display models which pollute Ebay searches for "N-gauge"  :veryangry: :censored:

You can refine your search to ignore Del Prado or static models  :thumbsup:

You may have to add to this list as they change the wording, but it is very worth while to do.

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on April 08, 2015, 02:06:00 AM
Quote from: scotsoft on April 08, 2015, 01:39:16 AM
Quote from: railsquid on April 07, 2015, 11:42:18 PM
If I could squeeze into my Liddle End Tardis, I'd go back in time and ensure that "Del Prado" never made their cowdungy display models which pollute Ebay searches for "N-gauge"  :veryangry: :censored:

You can refine your search to ignore Del Prado or static models  :thumbsup:

You may have to add to this list as they change the wording, but it is very worth while to do.

cheers John.

Ta, found the option now I know it's there  :dunce:

I'll need to add "kit built" and "scratch built" and variations too I guess ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Luke Piewalker on April 08, 2015, 05:36:13 AM
Yeah, most searches allow you to exclude terms by adding a minus in front of them in the search box
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 17, 2015, 09:01:11 PM
Not so much angry as mildly miffed/amused at the same time.
Had a heart test involving a treadmill/radio-active injection this morning and the nurses asked if I wanted to have some music during the test. I said it depends what it is and they replied it was just a compilation on an iPod.
Damn me if the first song that came on was 'Another one bites the dust' and that was immediately followed by 'Total eclipse of the heart'! :worried:
Why didn't they go the whole hog and play 'Resurrection Shuffle' or 'When I'm dead and gone'? :scowl:

(waits for all sorts of other suggestions)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on April 17, 2015, 09:17:41 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 17, 2015, 09:01:11 PM
Not so much angry as mildly miffed/amused at the same time.
Had a heart test involving a treadmill/radio-active injection this morning and the nurses asked if I wanted to have some music during the test. I said it depends what it is and they replied it was just a compilation on an iPod.
Damn me if the first song that came on was 'Another one bites the dust' and that was immediately followed by 'Total eclipse of the heart'! :worried:
Why didn't they go the whole hog and play 'Resurrection Shuffle' or 'When I'm dead and gone'? :scowl:

(waits for all sorts of other suggestions)
Don't fear the reaper?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on April 17, 2015, 09:24:26 PM
The day thou gavest, Lord is ended.............
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on April 17, 2015, 09:36:38 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 17, 2015, 09:01:11 PM
Why didn't they go the whole hog and play 'Resurrection Shuffle' . . .

Ashton, Gardner & Dyke, used to live a few doors away from me in Enfield :D

How about Madness - Cardiac Arrest? :laugh:


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on April 18, 2015, 12:09:30 AM
The one that springs to mind is " Come on baby, light my pyre fire"  >:D

Cheers John
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 18, 2015, 09:48:33 PM
Listen to your heart (Roxette)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: gc4946 on April 18, 2015, 10:40:38 PM
I live in Leeds City Council's area and from 1st April this year anyone who visits a recycling centre run by the council now has to display a circular "Leeds Resident Permit" inside their car windscreen or produce evidence that they live in Leeds, particularly a council tax bill.

Have anybody else been given such instructions elsewhere in the UK?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: gc4946 on April 18, 2015, 11:06:40 PM
It's been a double whammy for me, not only my nearest recycling centre closed some time ago, but the council discourages non-drivers from accessing these centres that are still open.

"We do not permit residents to access our household waste sites on foot. The sites are designed for vehicular delivery of materials that residents cannot recycle or dispose of through their existing kerbside collection due to size/material type. At busy times, the amount of cars and skip vehicles coming in and out of the site can be potentially hazardous to both residents and staff, so we need to be mindful of this.

This rationale also supports our activities to eliminate illegal trade waste which has been a regular problem at some sites in the past.

We provide a series of bring sites for residents to recycle materials, including glass, textiles and small electricals; which are easily accessible on foot in the local community.

Find your nearest bring site by using the 'Where I live' tool and selecting your address from the list that will appear.​"

source: http://www.leeds.gov.uk/residents/Pages/Recyclingsites.aspx (http://www.leeds.gov.uk/residents/Pages/Recyclingsites.aspx)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on April 19, 2015, 09:08:38 AM
Quote from: gc4946 on April 18, 2015, 10:40:38 PM
or produce evidence that they live in Leeds, particularly a council tax bill.

Have anybody else been given such instructions elsewhere in the UK?
Various Boroughs in London have been doing that for over a decade ... nothing new there (especially the rate of progress of Leeds council  ;))
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: gc4946 on April 19, 2015, 09:25:30 AM
I didn't know that's already happening ...
Out of curiosity, I checked the recycling centre policies of several London boroughs and Bexley and Croydon are those who insist on a residents only permit

http://www.bexley.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=2787 (http://www.bexley.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=2787)

https://www.croydon.gov.uk/environment/rrandw/recycling/recyclingsites (https://www.croydon.gov.uk/environment/rrandw/recycling/recyclingsites)

Not only that, both also charge for out of borough users!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on April 19, 2015, 10:31:42 AM
Quote from: gc4946 on April 19, 2015, 09:25:30 AM
Not only that, both also charge for out of borough users!
Sounds fair to me ... did when I lived there, still does.

Why the **** should I (as a Council Tax payer) subsidise people from other Council areas wanting to dump their rubbish in my recycle centre ?  They should use their own !

IIRC, they're starting to do this in Shropshire too ...  certainly, trade waste is not permitted (I'm sure there was a sign about proof last I did a recycle run).

Afraid I just don't see why you're up in arms about this ... if you live in Leeds then you should have a car disc (if you have a car of course  :D) & anyway you'll have a Council Tax bill with your name & address on ...

WRT the "car access only" rule, email them & ask how you're expected to get material there if you don't have a car; odds are, there will be some kind of pick-up service ...

Mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on April 19, 2015, 10:56:41 AM
Quote from: gc4946 on April 19, 2015, 09:25:30 AM

Not only that, both also charge for out of borough users!
Sounds perfectly in order to me.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on April 19, 2015, 11:00:43 AM
Quote from: gc4946 on April 18, 2015, 10:40:38 PM
I live in Leeds City Council's area and from 1st April this year anyone who visits a recycling centre run by the council now has to display a circular "Leeds Resident Permit" inside their car windscreen or produce evidence that they live in Leeds, particularly a council tax bill.

Have anybody else been given such instructions elsewhere in the UK?

Yes, we've been threatened with that down here in deepest North Somerset...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on April 19, 2015, 12:25:50 PM
On a similar theme our council last year did a survey (they called it a consultation) of how people wanted their garden rubbish collected. The options were as follows:

A 3 month suspension of garden waste collections during December, January and February (No annual charge but no doubt added to the council tax bill)
A 5 month suspension as above but no collections in November, December, January, February & March (No annual charge as above)
An annual charge of £35 per bin collected every fortnight (apart from Christmas time)
No collections

The results were as follows:

3 month suspension - 61.7%
5 month suspension - 30.7%
Annual charge - 5.8%
No collections - 1.8%

So which one do you think they went for? Yes, an annual charge which had 5.8% of the vote. Not only that but they raised it to £40. There's a lot of unhappy people around here. Not so much that the charge is there but more that they asked us and then ignored us!
Oh, and then they added that they are closing some of the recycling centres for 2/3 days of the week and shortening the opening hours of all of them. Thanks Wiltshire Council. Their 'slogan' says "Where everybody matters". It should maybe be added to with "But we never listen to you so up yours!"
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NeMo on April 19, 2015, 01:46:56 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on April 19, 2015, 12:25:50 PM
So which one do you think they went for? Yes, an annual charge which had 5.8% of the vote. Not only that but they raised it to £40. There's a lot of unhappy people around here. Not so much that the charge is there but more that they asked us and then ignored us!

From my reading of the Wiltshire website (http://www.wiltshire.gov.uk/rubbishandrecycling/rubbishrecycling/rubbishrecyclinggardenwaste.htm), this is an optional charge. You pay £40 and you get your garden waste collected. Don't want to pay? Dispose of garden waste yourself. So you aren't being forced into it. It's not as if municipal waste collection is "free" anyway; one way or another you pay for it, and it's expensive to do, and given the lack of landfill, it's only going to get more expensive in the future. At least the council are being clear about the cost and providing a full fortnightly service.

The big problem with consulting the public is that most people are ignorant about most issues. Individuals may have opinions about all sorts of things, but that doesn't mean they actually understand foreign policy, banking, criminal justice, risk management, etc.

I find it's a lot easier to accept political decisions if you challenge your "knee jerk" reaction to something by going away and doing some research about it. In this case, yes, Wiltshire seemed to be doing something crazy, but on reflection, their choice was logical, if not necessarily the one you or I might have chosen. Feel better now? I hope so!

Cheers, NeMo
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on April 19, 2015, 02:11:51 PM
I know it's optional but for a lot of people it's also necessary, we don't all have postage stamp sized 'modern' gardens. Previous years it has been provided by the council through the council tax which is of course directly related to the value of your property. Now the council tax goes up and there's an extra charge for this service. My main gripe is as I said above, why ask people for their opinions if you're simply going to ignore them? Why couldn't there be a lesser charge and suspend the service during the winter months when people don't need it. Why now are they going to bother driving diesel thirsty trucks up and down residential roads to pick up a bin every 30 houses or so. To me that's a big waste of money in November, December, January, February and March. Also the recycling centres will only be open from if I remember 9am to 4pm if they're open at all which means bigger queues than before to get in and a lot more pollution which I thought was something we were trying to reduce.
I appreciate your views and believe me I have heard them all before. I have also done a lot of research into it so hopefully don't come under your classification of ignorant.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NeMo on April 19, 2015, 03:22:48 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on April 19, 2015, 02:11:51 PM
I know it's optional but for a lot of people it's also necessary, we don't all have postage stamp sized 'modern' gardens.
Which means that if you charge everyone the same amount of collecting "green" waste, those of us with small gardens (mine is about 5 m across and 7 m long) or those with no gardens at all end up subsidising those lucky enough to have large gardens with lawns and trees. You only have two options really: Charge everyone the same amount, so some people are winners and some people losers; or else charge everyone according to their usage, allowing those with a small garden or no garden to opt out. You can't make everyone happy with either option.

Quote from: Trainfish on April 19, 2015, 02:11:51 PM
My main gripe is as I said above, why ask people for their opinions if you're simply going to ignore them?
Largely because just because something is unpopular doesn't make it wrong. Local government is incredibly difficult to do perfectly. Lots of expensive demands that people notice quickly: schools, waste collection, roads, old folks' homes, that sort of thing. National government benefits from distance. How many of us are directly affected by changes in foreign policy? Or economic tweaks? Or civil service reforms? But if your local school is underfunded, you pretty quickly hear people talk about it. (The NHS, I accept, is different, and a national structure people do interact with directly.)

Quote from: Trainfish on April 19, 2015, 02:11:51 PM
Why couldn't there be a lesser charge and suspend the service during the winter months when people don't need it.
Probably because it would save you money but not the council. You'd be asking them to hire bin men to collect waste 9 months of the year, and pay for machinery like rubbish trucks that operate for 9 months of the year. What happens to the men and machinery the rest of the time? You're then asking them to administer charges at different rates. How would you do that? Size of the garden? Number of trees? Whether they have lawns or not? Whether they have a compost heap? By the weight of the green bins? Much easier (and cheaper) for the council to simply charge a fixed rate and let people opt out if they want.

Quote from: Trainfish on April 19, 2015, 02:11:51 PM
Why now are they going to bother driving diesel thirsty trucks up and down residential roads to pick up a bin every 30 houses or so. To me that's a big waste of money in November, December, January, February and March.
Don't disagree. For what it's worth, here in Dacorum Borough, there are no green garden waste collections during winter, just the landfill and recycling collections. So yes, it can be done. But for whatever reason, in Wiltshire they decided otherwise. Perhaps find out? Freedom of information act is very useful here!

Quote from: Trainfish on April 19, 2015, 02:11:51 PM
I appreciate your views and believe me I have heard them all before. I have also done a lot of research into it so hopefully don't come under your classification of ignorant.
Ah, please don't confuse being ignorant about something specific with being classed as an ignorant person. What I mean is that we're all expert at some things but ignorant of others. I know nothing at all about how banks work or what goes on in "the City". It's a mystery to me. On the other hand, I know a lot more about education and science because those are the fields I've worked in. So while I get cross about banker's bonuses and the role the City played in the current debt crisis, I can't pretend to have anything other than an opinion about this. But when some City boy tells me about how teachers are lazy and schools need to buck up their ideas, then he's the ignorant one, not me.

Make sense?

Cheers, NeMo
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on April 19, 2015, 03:49:49 PM
Out of curiosity, what is "garden waste" here? Something that can't reasonably be composted? If so, what?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on April 19, 2015, 03:53:01 PM
Garden waste = grass cuttings, dead bits of plants, leaves, etc.


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on April 19, 2015, 03:56:39 PM
Large quantities of grass cuttings are a pain to compost on their own and can often turn to a horrid sludge if not handled correctly. Councils will (often) have facilities to mix the cuttings with vast amounts of other stuff such as leaves and other green bits from parks, etc.

Larger cuttings from trees and hedges that folk can shred - that sort of thing.

HTH railsquid.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on April 19, 2015, 04:02:34 PM
Aha... Got a teensy garden here which produces a surprising amount of "waste" for its size (but not much in the way of grass cuttings - my wife literally cuts the scrap of lawn with a pair of scissors) and it composts down surprisingly well, even on my ad-hoc compost heap.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on April 19, 2015, 05:56:21 PM
I appreciate your thoughts neMo and believe me, I have been through most of what you say on a local website with others (not Fakebook by the way). I won't get into a long winded response but here are a couple of responses.
No, don't charge everyone the same. If your house is worth more than one across the road then it's likely although not definitely going to have a bigger garden, hence there's more waste. You also know what the council tax is when you move there and if it includes garden waste collection (mine did when I moved here) and choose whether to move there or not.
I believe the council should never have asked for peoples' opinions if they weren't going to act on them.
Bin men for the other months of the year could be deployed elsewhere. Roadside litterpicking for a start. Put the trucks in a garage like I put my mower in the shed.
I understand your 'ignorant' comment better now, thanks for expanding on it.

As a final note, I have indeed been in touch with the council and even ran my own poll on the Streetlife website. Unfortunately it's not a massively used site and it would be difficult to use it as an argument against the decision with just 21 votes but the results are almost exactly the same as the council's survey. They have responded but it took a couple of emails for them to admit to the results which are tucked away on the council site. My nect email will ask for justification of the decision and why they asked the public in the first place as it seems they had already made up their mind. As I think I have intimated, I don't expect something for nothing and will need to either have 2 bins (2x £40) emptied or use the recycling centre in the summer. I will also ask for 25 'bin empties' for my £40 rather than 25 collections. The biggest gripe is as I said the way they have gone about it, it could have been handled a lot better.
Anyway, I said this wasn't going to be a long response but it's starting to look that way. Sorry all.

Quote from: daveg on April 19, 2015, 03:56:39 PM
Large quantities of grass cuttings are a pain to compost on their own and can often turn to a horrid sludge if not handled correctly. Councils will (often) have facilities to mix the cuttings with vast amounts of other stuff such as leaves and other green bits from parks, etc.

Larger cuttings from trees and hedges that folk can shred - that sort of thing.

HTH railsquid.

Dave G

You're right Dave. As of today I have 1.5 bins full of grass topped up with hedge cuttings. There's no way I can compost that sort of amount each fortnight but I have tried in the past!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DELETED on April 20, 2015, 11:15:47 PM
My mortgage protection insurance claim got turned down after 6 weeks procrastinating (they're so late with paperwork, I had to phone for the 5/6th time to find that out).  Don't care now, it's 6 months of trying to speak to Halifax / BoS with no customer care or help at all.  I'm going for blood now, not because it was turned down, but because they won't speak to me about my policy because it's obsolete and not offered any more :veryangry:  Totally  :poop: situation, I have apparently been paying for something nobody will speak to me about and aside from my rejection there's a very formal complaint going in regarding aftercare.

I was away visiting my mother this weekend and she had allot of grief with her £2,000 pound G-Plan sofa last year from Sterling Furniture and we got a replacement under warranty in November which we were delighted with.  As I was visiting this weekend she showed me where the replacement has started to split at the seams now and she's been worried sick about going in again to raise a problem.  So I made sure we went in today to Sterling Furniture shop and logged a new claim.  We know from the first claim and advice from the shop the way G-Plan works they just won't accept any problems after manufacture so to be fair it's Sterling Furniture which are taking the brunt.  Absolutely not accepting seams bursting after just 5 months :veryangry:

After going to the Sterling shop we went for lunch in the local Knondyke garden centre before I headed back home to Inverness.  Cheap and cheerful, we go all the time for something quick and simple.  Baked potato for me which was served raw and I returned it for a new cooked one which was fine.  Then my Mum got half way through her mushroom omelet and spotted a dead fly in it!  -she got refunded.

ONE OF THOSE DAYS :doh:  Thing is for me it's like every day and never seems to end :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DELETED on April 20, 2015, 11:25:57 PM
..Forgot, yesterday I went to swap my winter wheels off the Elgrand for my "summer wheels".  Mother lives on a hill so went down the bottom to flat ground, dug the jack out -half an hour later  :censored: me can I get the jack high enough to get any wheel off the ground?  So I bailed out after an hour of trying and went to the local tyre centre I use (always good service on a Sunday) and paid them to swap the wheels over.  Problem is last time I had drums fitted a different garage must have used an air gun on the studs so I now have a shafted wheel nut (requires a full replacement of nuts) and this tyre centre re-balanced the summer wheels, but they're awful above 63mph on the 4h drive home today so I've got to find another local outlet to get them re-balanced under warranty or pay to get them done properly again at the local tyre centre to me:'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on April 21, 2015, 06:54:36 AM
Blimey RST!

Hope the next couple of days drastically improve.

Good luck with the bank and furniture problems. I have a strong dislike for the Halifax who tried to take my home away after employment problems some 20 odd years ago. They didn't get it!

All the best.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on April 21, 2015, 10:30:52 AM
Re the posting on collections of household rubbish, recycling & garden/food waste.

You must be living in the wrong areas  ;)

I live in the Medway area of Kent and the collections are as follows:

Recycling, General rubbish & Garden/Food waste are all collected weekly.

In the brown bin you can put:

Grass and hedge clippings
Garden prunings and weeds
Small branches (no more than 5cm across)
Dead plants
Shredded paper that cannot be secured in the blue reusable bags can be placed inside the brown wheelie bin.
Food-soiled cardboard like pizza boxes can also be placed inside the brown bin.

With a phone call you can have:

Bulky/Large items collected upto 3 times in any 12 month period for free.

Free collection of Electrical waste (battery or Plug supplied power) on Tuesdays or Fridays
any time of the year.

The local free sites are I'm afraid the same as other sites, vehicle type and height restrictions unless
you phone in advance to arrange entry and of course, no foot traffic  :(

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tdm on April 21, 2015, 06:41:36 PM
I am off to the U.K. next week and was hoping to pick up to bring back with me 3 locomotives I had sent for repair to Bob at B.R.Lines. Bob had repaired them and posted them to my son's at Chester as I had requested.

However my son has just emailed me to say there had been a delivery today whilst he was at work, and the postman had left an unable to deliver card as it was a recorded delivery item. When he went to the Post Office in Chester to pick it up they said they had lost it and  they couldn't find it!  :veryangry:

What is happening to the postal service in the U.K., I should have had it sent to Tenerife as I would most likely have had it before I fly next Monday. As it was recorded delivery if they are unable to find it at all, hopefully I will be entitled to the value of the contents, although I am not sure of exactly what you can claim for.

The package contained a Farish Deltic D1, a Farish EWS liveried Class 37/4, and a Farish (old model) Class 31 in Network Rail colours, plus some replacement driveshafts for a Farish Class 55.

When I retired as a Computer Manager in 1994, I worked as a rural postman for 5 years in North Wales, and never lost a delivery, although I did on occassions whilst still learning the job put some letters in the wrong letter box.

Might have to write a strong letter of complaint to Chester Delivery Office, and claim compensation.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on April 21, 2015, 08:11:13 PM
Usually they say to wait 24 hours to collect items as they are still on the van doing its rounds. Probably why they couldn't find it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 21, 2015, 08:20:04 PM
I think (and hope) Malc is right. Usually it states on the card when the earliest collection from the sorting office can be made.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on April 21, 2015, 09:43:25 PM
Quote from: Malc on April 21, 2015, 08:11:13 PM
Usually they say to wait 24 hours to collect items as they are still on the van doing its rounds. Probably why they couldn't find it.

Yep that :thumbsup:


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on April 21, 2015, 09:50:14 PM
Quote from: Oldun on April 21, 2015, 10:30:52 AM
Re the posting on collections of household rubbish, recycling & garden/food waste.

You must be living in the wrong areas  ;)

I live in the Medway area of Kent and the collections are as follows:

Recycling, General rubbish & Garden/Food waste are all collected weekly.

In the brown bin you can put:

Grass and hedge clippings
Garden prunings and weeds
Small branches (no more than 5cm across)
Dead plants
Shredded paper that cannot be secured in the blue reusable bags can be placed inside the brown wheelie bin.
Food-soiled cardboard like pizza boxes can also be placed inside the brown bin.

With a phone call you can have:

Bulky/Large items collected upto 3 times in any 12 month period for free.

Free collection of Electrical waste (battery or Plug supplied power) on Tuesdays or Fridays
any time of the year.

The local free sites are I'm afraid the same as other sites, vehicle type and height restrictions unless
you phone in advance to arrange entry and of course, no foot traffic  :(

Roger

I thought the pikeys were in charge of collections in Kent?  :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on April 21, 2015, 09:57:24 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on April 21, 2015, 09:50:14 PM
I thought the pikeys were in charge of collections in Kent?  :P

Must admit that the 'scrap' merchants in their Trannies are around at least once a day :)

Give them their due, they do knock and ask if its OK to remove metal and such if its in
the front of the house or visible from the road or street :thumbsup:

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on April 22, 2015, 08:29:35 AM
I had a similar experience with the Post Office.

A recorded delivery of a Fathers Day card was attempted and a card left to say the attempt had been made.
That also got lost between the attempt and taking it back to the sorting office.

I can only assume that the postman/thief guessed there was money in it because it was a recorded delivery.

Complained about it and the Post office treated it as just another lost parcel,the fact it was lost after attemping delivery didn't register at all as being stolen.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on April 22, 2015, 09:11:59 AM
Quote from: Oldun on April 21, 2015, 09:57:24 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on April 21, 2015, 09:50:14 PM
I thought the pikeys were in charge of collections in Kent?  :P

Must admit that the 'scrap' merchants in their Trannies are around at least once a day :)

Oh, the van kind of Trannie ... Had me confused for a moment there.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on April 22, 2015, 10:01:56 AM
Quote from: railsquid on April 22, 2015, 09:11:59 AM
Quote from: Oldun on April 21, 2015, 09:57:24 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on April 21, 2015, 09:50:14 PM
I thought the pikeys were in charge of collections in Kent?  :P

Must admit that the 'scrap' merchants in their Trannies are around at least once a day :)

Oh, the van kind of Trannie ... Had me confused for a moment there.

:-[ Sorry, I'll rephrase that.

Must admit that the 'scrap' merchants in their Transit vans/pickups are around at least once a day  :)

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on April 22, 2015, 10:32:00 AM
Quote from: Bikeracer on April 22, 2015, 08:29:35 AM
I had a similar experience with the Post Office.

A recorded delivery of a Fathers Day card was attempted and a card left to say the attempt had been made.
That also got lost between the attempt and taking it back to the sorting office.

I can only assume that the postman/thief guessed there was money in it because it was a recorded delivery.

Complained about it and the Post office treated it as just another lost parcel,the fact it was lost after attemping delivery didn't register at all as being stolen.

Allan

Don't get me started on the POST OFFICE and so-called attempted deliveries  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tdm on April 22, 2015, 02:16:07 PM
I have just sent an email to the postman I used to work with in the Colwyn Bay Delivery Office, and who now works in a more senior position in the office there. He is also a friend and regularly visits us in Tenerife.

I am sure he will be able to help me put a bit of extra pressure on the Chester office (which is where all the mail from the Colwyn Bay goes each night to be electronically sorted, and I know because I sometimes drove the tail lift wagon that took it).

Currently awaiting a reply from him.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MattJ on April 23, 2015, 05:30:19 PM
I ordered a decoder from DCC Supplies, they despatched it on Monday but it still hasn't arrived!  What are you doing Royal Mail?  I haven't even had a little red card.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tdm on April 23, 2015, 05:46:28 PM
Just a quick update - but my son tells me the Post Office has now found the recorded delivery trains package they at first lost, and he now has it at home waiting for me to collect it when I come over Monday. So I am no longer angry about this.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DELETED on April 24, 2015, 11:35:33 PM
Didn't get an offer after the interview I did a month ago in Barrow :'(  They were happy but what I got rejected on I really disagree with as I was very strong on that so I obviously fluffed that part at the interview.  So :censored: annoyed with myself., it was a strange interview anyway.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ozzie Bill. on April 25, 2015, 02:23:57 AM
Sorry to hear you didn't get the job, RST. Any other interviews in the pipeline? Cheers, Bill.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DELETED on April 25, 2015, 03:00:11 AM
QuoteSorry to hear you didn't get the job, RST. Any other interviews in the pipeline? Cheers, Bill.


...Interviews are a novelty!  2 in 7 months so far, no probs with my CV apparently and not for want of trying but just absolutely nobody wants engineers these days :confused2:  Lots of guys are like me at the moment. Am now looking at putting myself through a class 2 HGV licence before I totally run out of cash -I hear drivers are always in short demand.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on April 25, 2015, 07:56:30 AM
Quote from: RST on April 25, 2015, 03:00:11 AM
Am now looking at putting myself through a class 2 HGV licence before I totally run out of cash -I hear drivers are always in short demand.

Go for it RST, I did my Class 2 when I took redundancy about 10 years ago, I thoroughly enjoyed driving trucks. I did only do it for a couple of years but it was quite fun and I found it quite a good way to de-stress.

It can be tiring work having to get up at 04:00 sometimes and not getting home till 5 or 6 o'clock in the evening after handballing the stuff out the truck all day, but it's a satisfying tiredness.

Another thing is, you'll always have that qualification on your licence. I haven't driven a wagon since 2007, but I can do if I want to. I know I have to do the drivers CPC if I want to drive commercially, but I can still drive a wagon if required 😊

Oh one more thing, I would recommend going straight up to Class 1 after getting your class 2 licence, I wish I'd done it straight away, otherwise you get into working and then never get round to doing it. But that will really depend on what you want to do, I was quite happy doing local multi-drop rather than long distance tramping type work.

Anyway good luck to you, oh and remember if you do go driving trucks, when you're sat in a traffic jam don't get stressed out as you're getting paid for sitting still 😉😉

Regards

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on April 25, 2015, 09:50:55 AM
I'd second that :)

Not sure what things are like where you are but certainly drivers are in constant short supply in the South and Midlands. Like Neal I did my HGV when I took redundancy, although mine was 20 years ago and it got paid for by BT as part of my release package. Drove for five years to pay the bills until I got an Accountancy job. Then four years ago got made redundant again, no accounts jobs about due to the recession so dust off the old licence and back to trucks again for a while ;) Definitely comes in handy as a 'safety net' - even if sometimes as Neal said the hours aren't the best, in my view a crap job is better than no job :thumbsup:


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on April 27, 2015, 06:39:07 PM
I took my class 1 then did a conversion to PCV. Only driven an HGV on a couple of occasions, much prefer coaches as the cargo loads and unloads itself.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on April 27, 2015, 08:46:19 PM
On the other hand my cargo doesn't whinge and moan, make loads of noise, or criticise my driving ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on April 27, 2015, 10:38:25 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on April 27, 2015, 08:46:19 PM
On the other hand my cargo doesn't whinge and moan, make loads of noise, or criticise my driving ;)


Paul
Or need to stop at every service station!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on April 29, 2015, 03:34:20 PM
Have just discovered whilst on my break at work that I picked up the wrong tin of paint at home this morning. :headbutt:

I needed BR Blue, and this tin says Mainline Blue. :thumbsdown:  Oh well, that's another day gone before this carriage is finished. ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on April 29, 2015, 03:53:32 PM
#firstworldproblems ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on April 29, 2015, 05:12:48 PM
Quote from: railsquid on April 29, 2015, 03:53:32 PM
#firstworldproblems ;)

How bizarre, I actually wrote that and deleted it before I pressed submit!!!!  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on April 30, 2015, 01:26:21 AM
Quote from: Tank on April 29, 2015, 05:12:48 PM
Quote from: railsquid on April 29, 2015, 03:53:32 PM
#firstworldproblems ;)

How bizarre, I actually wrote that and deleted it before I pressed submit!!!!  :D
The meme will out ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on April 30, 2015, 04:27:53 PM
Quote from: railsquid on April 30, 2015, 01:26:21 AM
Quote from: Tank on April 29, 2015, 05:12:48 PM
Quote from: railsquid on April 29, 2015, 03:53:32 PM
#firstworldproblems ;)

How bizarre, I actually wrote that and deleted it before I pressed submit!!!!  :D
The meme will out ;)

More like 'the meme will inherit the Earth'....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 30, 2015, 04:52:29 PM
I thought the meme raths outgrabe. Oh no, That was mome :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on May 01, 2015, 06:38:21 PM
 :censored: Just purchased a new computer keyboard. The only problem is that on
five of the key's symbols, they do not correspond with their actions.

Example, the number 2 key is marked 2 and 'at' symbol - press upper case and
the 2 key and you get  " instead, 3 key has the hash symbol - press upper case
and the 3 key and you get £ ect ect   :veryangry:

I WANT A REFUND

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on May 01, 2015, 07:18:10 PM
Yeah ... that's the UK mapping ...  Sounds like you may have bought a US keyboard ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on May 01, 2015, 07:20:55 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on May 01, 2015, 07:18:10 PM
Yeah ... that's the UK mapping ...  Sounds like you may have bought a US keyboard ?
If you're using Windoze you should be able to change your keyboard mapping to the correct UK version. Don't know about Mac - that's for Aliens!
:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on May 01, 2015, 09:38:58 PM
Won't that result in a missing £ symbol?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on May 02, 2015, 01:12:19 AM
Yes it will Malc as on a US keyboard there is a " on the 3 key. The thing is if it's a US keyboard then the £ symbol doesn't exist so he can't mis-type it if you see what I mean as he won't be able to find it on the keyboard in the first place! Roger, if you're using Windows and the keyboard is set as US then you need to hold down the Alt key and then press 0163 then the £ sign should appear just like magic  :thumbsup:

If it were me I'd buy a UK keyboard though  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on May 02, 2015, 01:35:07 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on May 02, 2015, 01:12:19 AM
If it were me I'd buy a UK keyboard though  :D

Your right there but, the 'add' for this keyboard failed to mention it was the US version >:(

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on May 02, 2015, 10:39:54 AM
Assuming you bought from a UK retailer I would take it back. They should exchange it for a UK one.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on May 03, 2015, 01:36:01 PM
One thing that annoys me in supermarkets is the way they price large and small tins/boxes of the same product, shopping for myself alone I'm more or less forced to buy the smaller one as I often can't consume all the larger one within a "use by"; examples, 100g and 200g packs priced the same! Worse, recently a large tin of something on offer at £1.50, alongside the smaller tin of the same product at £1.69! I would have thought it would make sense to have a proportional offer on the smaller tin. As usual the pensioner gets ripped off.

I realise they usually claim that the smaller quantity will cost proportionally more for packaging and handling, but surely there is a limit?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on May 03, 2015, 01:42:11 PM
Why not just buy the bigger version and freeze what you don't use immediately.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on May 03, 2015, 01:50:49 PM
As I live in a retirement flat space is at a premium, I only have space for a fridge freezer less than 50cm wide, I got the largest that would fit, by the time I put in packets of chips, hash browns, peas, carrots  and some meat and fish the freezer is full.

As the flat is rented I can't start ripping out built in units to get a larger freezer in.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on May 03, 2015, 02:23:08 PM
I see your problem in a smallish retirement flat. An acquaintance of
mine (pub regular) had similar problems and bought a small freezer
which is kept in a broom cupboard, I was surprised when I saw it
it's a cube about 2ft each side.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 03, 2015, 05:20:07 PM
He must keep very small brooms in that cupboard :-X
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on May 03, 2015, 06:32:16 PM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on May 03, 2015, 01:50:49 PM
As I live in a retirement flat space is at a premium, I only have space for a fridge freezer less than 50cm wide, I got the largest that would fit, by the time I put in packets of chips, hash browns, peas, carrots  and some meat and fish the freezer is full.

As the flat is rented I can't start ripping out built in units to get a larger freezer in.

You could go halves with your next door neighbour  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on May 06, 2015, 09:24:03 AM
Right time for a rant...... :laughabovepost:

Is it just me or are the little copper coloured springs in Farish couplings just put there fore no other reason, than to ping out at you, bounce of your forehead and never been seen again??

Apparently they are there to help the coupling operate, which I think is a load of rubbish, its nothing more than a rumour spread about by some evil Master mind at Farish HQ, with the amount I have lost, sorry had exploded in my face over the past few months the spare room carpet should be blanketed in the little buggers. But no its not, because I think these little springy devils self destruct, moments after admitting a feint sound to give you brief hope that you heard the rough vicinity in which they landed.

Well be warned you Evil Spring Master I am on to you.......... >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on May 06, 2015, 09:27:46 AM
See reply in other thread :)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on May 06, 2015, 09:41:28 AM
Quote from: paulprice on May 06, 2015, 09:24:03 AM
Right time for a rant...... :laughabovepost:

Is it just me or are the little copper coloured springs in Farish couplings just put there fore no other reason, than to ping out at you, bounce of your forehead and never been seen again??

Apparently they are there to help the coupling operate, which I think is a load of rubbish, its nothing more than a rumour spread about by some evil Master mind at Farish HQ, with the amount I have lost, sorry had exploded in my face over the past few months the spare room carpet should be blanketed in the little buggers. But no its not, because I think these little springy devils self destruct, moments after admitting a feint sound to give you brief hope that you heard the rough vicinity in which they landed.

Well be warned you Evil Spring Master I am on to you.......... >:D
Recently, while tidying up my room, I rescued not one but two springs from the maw of the carpet monster.

Now all I have to do is work out where they came from  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on May 06, 2015, 09:43:25 AM
They are not yours they are mine, give them back or I am telling MUMMY
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on May 06, 2015, 06:43:22 PM
What has Imhotep got to do with this  ???

Mind, if you're bringing him in, you can have all mine, they're still in place though !!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on May 06, 2015, 07:41:58 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on May 06, 2015, 06:43:22 PM
What has Imhotep got to do with this  ???

Mind, if you're bringing him in, you can have all mine, they're still in place though !!!

:laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on May 10, 2015, 10:19:03 AM
Typical, I have a chassis for my Ivatt 4 build, working at ready to be attached to the body, and the moment I am ready to do this the bloody thing decides to stop messing in gears.

I think the keeper plate may be a little distorted,  AAARRRRGGGHHHHHHH HELP HELP HELP
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on May 31, 2015, 02:44:50 PM
 :veryangry:       we have a stair lift remote controller at the top and one at the bottom of the stairs to make life easy to call the chair up or down to whichever is needed.
For a couple of weeks now the one upstairs refuses to obey any command made of it even though I installed a new battery so yesterday I removed the back via one screw  :-[ the switch contacts were filthy so a good rub over with Tomix track cleaner soon brought them back to new condition and all looked good but closing the cover is a nightmare. So far Ive spent 3 hours trying to reassemble the ^%* thing.
Now the other one is coming out in sympathy  :censored: :veryangry:
Service mans due Wednesday and I think he will probably moan like  :censored: about things then sell us a new one. Hes the most   :censored: Ive ever met
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 31, 2015, 04:25:44 PM
Jon - can you arrange to fire him out of the landing window like the advert with Gary Lineker?
The results may possibly be more satisfying if you don't actually have a window up there >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on May 31, 2015, 04:39:56 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on May 31, 2015, 04:25:44 PM
Jon - can you arrange to fire him out of the landing window like the advert with Gary Lineker?
The results may possibly be more satisfying if you don't actually have a window up there >:D
True but that would mean paying to have the roof repaired
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 31, 2015, 04:43:35 PM
Quote from: jonclox on May 31, 2015, 04:39:56 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on May 31, 2015, 04:25:44 PM
Jon - can you arrange to fire him out of the landing window like the advert with Gary Lineker?
The results may possibly be more satisfying if you don't actually have a window up there >:D
True but that would mean paying to have the roof repaired

As long as you don't have the motor on 'setting 11' you'll only need to wash the wall down, Jon :-X
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 31, 2015, 04:55:14 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 17, 2015, 09:01:11 PM
Had a heart test involving a treadmill/radio-active injection this morning.

This was followed up with another one 4 days later and then nothing, zilch, nada until yesterday morning when I got a letter inviting me to have tiffin with the cardiologist consultant.................on the 13th July 2015 ???
From the beginning of December last year the problem has not gone away yet it will be 7 months until I get results from the 'expert'. I am quite sure there are more needy folks than I of his time but, by heck, it's dragging on. I guess I have to console myself with the fact it can't be anything too serious or they'd have called me in sooner :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on May 31, 2015, 05:02:40 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on May 31, 2015, 04:55:14 PM

I guess I have to console myself with the fact it can't be anything too serious or they'd have called me in sooner :hmmm:

Either that or they have decided you are a lost cause  >:D  :angel:  :D

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on June 01, 2015, 04:37:53 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on May 31, 2015, 04:25:44 PM
Jon - can you arrange to fire him out of the landing window like the advert with Gary Lineker?
The results may possibly be more satisfying if you don't actually have a window up there >:D
Tomix rail cleaner fluid, hot glue gun ,sharp knife,  polystyrene glue and a couple of G clamps and another hour wasted and it now works like new but it wont be possible to ever strip it down again  :claphappy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 01, 2015, 04:41:20 PM
Quote from: jonclox on June 01, 2015, 04:37:53 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on May 31, 2015, 04:25:44 PM
Jon - can you arrange to fire him out of the landing window like the advert with Gary Lineker?
The results may possibly be more satisfying if you don't actually have a window up there >:D
Tomix rail cleaner fluid, hot glue gun ,sharp knife,  polystyrene glue and a couple of G clamps and another hour wasted and it now works like new but it wont be possible to ever strip it down again  :claphappy:

Sorry, Jon. Are we talking about a dicky ticker or your stair lift remote :confused1:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on June 02, 2015, 09:53:09 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on June 01, 2015, 04:41:20 PM
Quote from: jonclox on June 01, 2015, 04:37:53 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on May 31, 2015, 04:25:44 PM
Jon - can you arrange to fire him out of the landing window like the advert with Gary Lineker?
The results may possibly be more satisfying if you don't actually have a window up there >:D
Tomix rail cleaner fluid, hot glue gun ,sharp knife,  polystyrene glue and a couple of G clamps and another hour wasted and it now works like new but it wont be possible to ever strip it down again  :claphappy:

Sorry, Jon. Are we talking about a dicky ticker or your stair lift remote :confused1:
:-[ :-\ pass
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on June 02, 2015, 10:24:58 AM
Now that you've sealed it, will you be able to change the batteries?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on June 02, 2015, 10:39:58 AM
Quote from: Malc on June 02, 2015, 10:24:58 AM
Now that you've sealed it, will you be able to change the batteries?
A definite yes on that  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on June 03, 2015, 09:01:53 PM
There was a film on a couple of nights ago called "Road" which we recorded.

It's about the Dunlop family of motorcycle racers in Ireland,up to now I've watched about half of it up to Joey Dunlops death.

I'm absolutely fed up again that someone has decided that the dialogue should have music played over it all the time.
Who are these idiots that want to put clink,clank,clonk piano sounds over dialogue?

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 03, 2015, 09:34:49 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on June 03, 2015, 09:01:53 PM


I'm absolutely fed up again that someone has decided that the dialogue should have music played over it all the time.
Who are these idiots that want to put clink,clank,clonk piano sounds over dialogue?

Allan

The same idiots who enjoy credit squeezing so you can't see the cast of programmes, Allan ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on June 03, 2015, 09:38:42 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on June 03, 2015, 09:01:53 PM
I'm absolutely fed up again that someone has decided that the dialogue should have music played over it all the time.
Who are these idiots that want to put clink,clank,clonk piano sounds over dialogue?

Allan
There is a good write up about Joey in Guy Martin's autobiography.
That music is a right pain in the a*** Allan, but apparently it's art . Squeezing the credits is another pain, even more so. After being in broadcasting 42 years, there are a few people I know in the business and I look out for their names.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 03, 2015, 09:56:10 PM
Quote from: Malc on June 03, 2015, 09:38:42 PM

There is a good write up about Joey in Guy Martin's autobiography.


Bought that last weekend, Malc, but haven't read it yet.
Please don't get me started on 'youngsters' doing autobiographies, though. For pity's sake, they haven't lived half their expected lifespan yet :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on June 03, 2015, 10:16:16 PM
The way he carries on, he might have lived over three quarters of his expected life span already.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 04, 2015, 10:07:13 AM
Quote from: Malc on June 03, 2015, 10:16:16 PM
The way he carries on, he might have lives over three quarters of his expected life span

Very true, Malc, especially as he'll be in the TT races again next week as one of just 14 riders who are in the '130' club i.e. they've lapped at an average speed of 130+ mph :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 25, 2015, 10:03:02 PM
The annual plague/infestation of tiny red spider mites has started :doh:
My conservatory (aka mancave) roof is covered with the little blighters and, being so tiny, they can squeeze in and drop onto the layout. They cannot be blown off and, indeed, are a struggle to vacuum off. The slightest pressure e.g. trying to flick them into next week results in them exploding as a red blob which can badly mark things. I know we humans were once described in an episode of 'Star Trek' as "ugly bags of mostly water" but these damned things are like a thinly encased blob of blood.
Does anyone else have problems with these things and, if so, do you have a solution please? :help:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on June 26, 2015, 06:59:06 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on June 25, 2015, 10:03:02 PM
The annual plague/infestation of tiny red spider mites has started :doh:

Does anyone else have problems with these things and, if so, do you have a solution please? :help:

Dunno if this is any help, Mick:

Taken from the RHS website -

Chemical control
Pesticides containing  acetamiprid (e.g. Bug Clear Ultra) or thiocloprid and methiocarb (e.g. Bayer Provado Ultimate Bug Killer, Aerosol)  are available for use on ornamental plants only
Edible plants can be sprayed with plant oils, plant extracts or fatty acids. These pesticides may require frequent applications to control the mite


Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on June 26, 2015, 07:01:15 AM
Can some one help me explain to my company that expecting a chap to be ready to sort out there problems 20+ hours a day is a little excessive??
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on June 26, 2015, 07:25:38 AM
Quote from: paulprice on June 26, 2015, 07:01:15 AM
Can some one help me explain to my company that expecting a chap to be ready to sort out there problems 20+ hours a day is a little excessive??

Sympathies Paul.

I had a boss who texted me at 2 or 3 a.m. with instructions as to what she wanted when she came in at 08:30. I explained that my mobile remained on overnight for my aged and unwell father, not for the business. That subtle hint did the trick.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on June 26, 2015, 09:34:44 AM
Quote from: paulprice on June 26, 2015, 07:01:15 AM
Can some one help me explain to my company that expecting a chap to be ready to sort out there problems 20+ hours a day is a little excessive??

have you tried submitting a report on progress which needs a reply at 03:45  >:D

might do the trick  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on June 26, 2015, 09:40:16 AM
If they contact you out of office hours, charge them for four hours time every time it happens.

cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on June 26, 2015, 09:46:20 AM
Quote from: class37025 on June 26, 2015, 09:34:44 AM
Quote from: paulprice on June 26, 2015, 07:01:15 AM
Can some one help me explain to my company that expecting a chap to be ready to sort out there problems 20+ hours a day is a little excessive??

have you tried submitting a report on progress which needs a reply at 03:45  >:D

might do the trick  :smiley-laughing:

Thanks chaps but if I send out reports they always come back to me, because I do all the jobs, I have so many hats on at the moment its unreal. I send my day swapping hats between, the planner, financial controller, safety managed, compliance, new business retention, new business creation, truck fitter, truck co-ordinator, drivers help desk, stock controller, admin manager, driver rescue, incident investigation, payroll, HR and translator.

At least I get a hour for my lunch, which is good, because since January I have actually had 3, though in one I just happened to do some business at the same time, so in total about 2.5 hours of lunches.

Anyway rant over, I have just spent 2 minutes taking time out to do this, if the Boss finds out, I will have to give me a stern telling off, its a good job having multiple personalities, at least if I fall out with one of them there is still one to talk to  :confused2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 26, 2015, 10:13:21 AM
Quote from: daveg on June 26, 2015, 06:59:06 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on June 25, 2015, 10:03:02 PM
The annual plague/infestation of tiny red spider mites has started :doh:

Does anyone else have problems with these things and, if so, do you have a solution please? :help:

Dunno if this is any help, Mick:

Taken from the RHS website -

Chemical control
Pesticides containing  acetamiprid (e.g. Bug Clear Ultra) or thiocloprid and methiocarb (e.g. Bayer Provado Ultimate Bug Killer, Aerosol)  are available for use on ornamental plants only
Edible plants can be sprayed with plant oils, plant extracts or fatty acids. These pesticides may require frequent applications to control the mite


Dave G

Thanks for that, Dave. I don't want to turn this into 'Gardener's World' but anything outside the mancave doesn't worry me :no: Not sure I'd want to use a pesticide on the layout :uneasy: I have a feeling that, if run over by a loco/coach there will just be blood on the tracks/wheels but I'm not sure what the effect would be if they got inside a loco and exploded :worried:
No stock is stored in the conservatory apart from a few pieces of rolling stock on the layout for a play testing sesh.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on June 26, 2015, 12:58:24 PM
driver rescue, incident investigation, payroll, HR and translator

:hmmm:

have you thought of giving yourself a rise  >:D

or even paying yourself one salary for each job  :smiley-laughing:


slightly off topic, but some years ago I was working security on a site, and my manager demanded that we phone him and tell him of any problems / incidents so that he was aware when he went in to work in the morning.

so one night something happened, I dealt with it, and then phoned him, it was only 23:30  :)

conversation went something like this,

me - " hi xxxxx, sorry to bother you but susch and such has happened, I've done so and so, and it should be ok till the day shift come in. I've lft one camera on the area and will make extra checks"

him - "do you realise I'm on holiday?"

ahh, that explains the noise in the back ground  :no:

me - "sorry, I didn't know or I wouldn't have phoned you"

him - "I e-mailed every one, don't you read your e-mails?"

me - "don't you remember, we haven't got e-mail on this site, did you ask anyone to print and send us a hard copy, or phone us and let us know?"

...

...

...

him - "oh"

used to love nights  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lionwing on June 26, 2015, 01:57:44 PM
Work frustrations...

Yes I have a few of those.

I work for a great family owned company involved in food distribution.  Part of my remit is to manage a two hundred strong supplier base and everything that comes along with it.  Regular meetings with suppliers are a feature of my working week and to help manage my time / workload keeping a calendar or upcoming meetings is essential to allow for proper preparation and to make sure I achieve what I need to do within my working hours!

Nothing frustrates me more than a "cold caller" who arrives unannounced at reception explaining they were "just passing" (because everybody "just passes" a industrial estate at the end of a back street in a small town) and asks if I am available for thirty minutes of so while they introduce themselves and their company etc. 

Now this will happens several times a week and while you cannot fault their desire to do a good job for their employer but we live in a day and age when this method is considered a bit "old school" considering the broad range of communications methods we are blessed with in the 21st Century. 

Ring, send a email, write a letter...I'm sure (if what you have is relevant) I will see you at the earliest date possible but really to ask me to step into a meeting with no preparation, knowledge or background on who you work for...not happening sunshine...here is my card...now drop me a email with dates when you are "in the area" next and we will see what we can do!

These type of operators aren't far behind the "PPI" brigade in my book!

Rant over...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on June 26, 2015, 03:13:21 PM
I was working abroad and had a text at 2am, my time, from a pal wishing me happy Chinese New Year. I was starting  work at 6am, so waited until I got up to ring him and thank him. He only said one word that started with b and ended in d. He didn't do it again.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lionwing on June 26, 2015, 03:15:20 PM
Quote from: Malc on June 26, 2015, 03:13:21 PM
I was working abroad and had a text at 2am, my time, from a pal wishing me happy Chinese New Year. I was starting  work at 6am, so waited until I got up to ring him and thank him. He only said one word that started with b and ended in d. He didn't do it again.

How insensitive of you!

:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ditape on June 26, 2015, 05:23:12 PM
I work 12 hour night shifts 1900-0700 in the middle of a run of shifts I got a message from my boss asking me to pop into the office for a informal meeting at 1400 I replied that it was not convenient at 1400 as I would be still in bed but would be quite happy to have a meeting at 0300, guess what that was not convenient for them. The information to be passed at the meeting was did I ask a junior to take a certain course of action this was eventually handled via e-mail. So I can sympathize with your displeasure at texts in the middle of the night. 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DELETED on June 26, 2015, 11:05:34 PM
Quote from: paulprice on June 26, 2015, 07:01:15 AM
Can some one help me explain to my company that expecting a chap to be ready to sort out there problems 20+ hours a day is a little excessive??

Ha, yes I sympathise.  I sold my soul to the offshore oil and gas industry and I have done some crazy hours in my time.  One of the reasons I probably wouldn't ever accept  a raspblackberry again and I'm lucky the mobile network is so poor at the house now anyway.

My anger this week is mainly:


Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on July 01, 2015, 09:46:13 AM
Just dropped my brand new Nokia 930 on concrete and cracked the screen. Still - only 23 payments to go before its mine!! - cracked screen and all.
Only last week I was thinking - should I get it insured?... Oh well, that's life.

Fortunately everything is still working so I don't have to go and buy a new one yet.
:'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on July 01, 2015, 01:56:32 PM
Now, that is very sad AB.

If it's a big cost to fix is it not possible to claim on 'accidental damage' through household insurance?

Having suggested that please be careful as I understand even if you contact your insurer regarding a *potential* claim, that can go on your database record and affect future premiums!  :(

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: FeelixTC on July 01, 2015, 02:52:25 PM
Quote from: austinbob on July 01, 2015, 09:46:13 AM
Just dropped my brand new Nokia 930 on concrete and cracked the screen. Still - only 23 payments to go before its mine!! - cracked screen and all.
Only last week I was thinking - should I get it insured?... Oh well, that's life.

Fortunately everything is still working so I don't have to go and buy a new one yet.
:'(

Timpson's do screen repairs, allegedley cheaply
............Other shoe repair companies are available
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 01, 2015, 03:53:27 PM
Quote from: Only Me on July 01, 2015, 02:55:25 PM
I've fixed a few


How many have you dropped? :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on July 01, 2015, 04:05:20 PM
Quote from: daveg on July 01, 2015, 01:56:32 PM
Now, that is very sad AB.

If it's a big cost to fix is it not possible to claim on 'accidental damage' through household insurance?

Having suggested that please be careful as I understand even if you contact your insurer regarding a *potential* claim, that can go on your database record and affect future premiums!  :(

Dave G
I've been quoted between £160 and£220 to replace the screen. The glass is bonded to the display so they have to replace the complete assembly. That cost assumes they don't find anything else broken. So I decided to bite the bullet and buy another phone - which I am now typing this reply on.
:'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on July 01, 2015, 04:10:55 PM
Quote from: Only Me on July 01, 2015, 02:55:25 PM
I've fixed a few, heres how :--

http://www.etradesupply.com/blog/how-to-disassemble-lumia-930-for-repairing-cracked-screen/ (http://www.etradesupply.com/blog/how-to-disassemble-lumia-930-for-repairing-cracked-screen/)

Screens are available on Ebay.
Thanks for that... Unfortunately I have trouble just adjusting the pickups on my locos any attempt to take my phone apart would almost certainly result a bag of broken, expensive bits. I've bought a new one and will keep the broken one as a spare. :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on July 01, 2015, 04:12:54 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 01, 2015, 03:53:27 PM
Quote from: Only Me on July 01, 2015, 02:55:25 PM
I've fixed a few


How many have you dropped? :worried:
I like that post!! Cheered me up no end!!
:thankyousign:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on July 01, 2015, 05:51:22 PM
Quote from: Only Me on July 01, 2015, 04:42:22 PM
Quote from: austinbob on July 01, 2015, 04:12:54 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 01, 2015, 03:53:27 PM
Quote from: Only Me on July 01, 2015, 02:55:25 PM
I've fixed a few


How many have you dropped? :worried:
I like that post!! Cheered me up no end!!
:thankyousign:

Loads bowever being an iphone they very rarely break when dropped, usually snap when in back pocket and sit down ! :eek:
The last time I dropped a phone was down the loo. I bent over to pull me trousers up and it fell out of my shirt pocket into the loo. Fortunately I had already flushed it!!
It glowed very brightly for a few seconds and then expired - shortly followed by my bank balance... :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Portpatrick on July 01, 2015, 07:04:05 PM
Quote from: austinbob on July 01, 2015, 05:51:22 PM
Quote from: Only Me on July 01, 2015, 04:42:22 PM
Quote from: austinbob on July 01, 2015, 04:12:54 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 01, 2015, 03:53:27 PM
Quote from: Only Me on July 01, 2015, 02:55:25 PM
I've fixed a few


How many have you dropped? :worried:
I like that post!! Cheered me up no end!!
:thankyousign:

Loads bowever being an iphone they very rarely break when dropped, usually snap when in back pocket and sit down ! :eek:
The last time I dropped a phone was down the loo. I bent over to pull me trousers up and it fell out of my shirt pocket into the loo. Fortunately I had already flushed it!!
It glowed very brightly for a few seconds and then expired - shortly followed by my bank balance... :hmmm:

You're not the only one Bob.  I was washing the car and I bent down and the phone dropped into the bucket.  It never recovered.  However it was not an expensive smartphone.  I use cheapy PAYG with Virgin.  And replaced it with a Doro from Argos.  Larger keys which is helpful with my hand tremor.  I already had a tablet and hardly ever miss having no more than more than basics on the phone.  But what a daft thing to do!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 01, 2015, 08:18:28 PM
Oh dearie me - maybe the last 2 posts should be in the 'Clumsy thread' ;)
My Mum has just bought a Doro with the large keys etc and loves it. She especially likes the 'panic button' feature which will dial 3 nominated members of the family in succession until there's an answer. Only thing is - we all had to agree what action we should take if we got 'the call' :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on July 01, 2015, 08:34:52 PM
I purchased a similar Doro device for my aged Pater and it worked successfully.

That is, we put the contact numbers in and made a few 'are you receiving me ' type calls.

Said aged Pater dropped it from his hospital bed onto the hard  floor. It never worked again!  :doh:

As the old chap said 'Ah well, it's only money.' Bless!

Dave G



Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on July 02, 2015, 07:52:41 AM
Some  :censored: shunted the back of my brand new car while it was parked, and of course took off.  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on July 02, 2015, 08:50:32 AM
Darn it George!

Sorry to hear that but it does seem to be a universal tactic these days. Have had it done twice to me.

My niece had her new car scraped when parked outside her place. She nosed around the street and found a car with matching paint scrapes. Turned out to be a neighbour who 'hadn't noticed he'd done that.' She made little  :censored: pay up. Not to be meddled with is our Beth!

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 02, 2015, 10:07:25 AM
Sorry to hear that, George :(

I had a similar episode as Dave's niece 2 months after getting a new Ford Siesta but it was obvious it was the woman parked next to me in a car park as she had a corresponding scrape with my cars paint in it. She just refused on the grounds she hadn't done it, although she did give me her husband's phone number. When I called him he gave me a right rollicking for upsetting his wife and ended up saying I had no witnesses so could go  :censored: myself, something I find impossible not being a contortionist.
I took the car in to have the scrape repaired and paid £120 rather than even contact the insurance company as they place all such calls on your record. Needless to say I later ended up with the inevitable "We gather you've been involved in an accident........" type phone calls which can only have resulted from the repairer informing these leeches :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on July 02, 2015, 10:23:14 AM
Yeah it's all a crock of you know what. To be honest, the damage ain't that bad,  but it's gonna cost me $500 to fix... which of course Mrs Bealman insists upon  :beers:

George
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lionwing on July 02, 2015, 12:11:29 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 02, 2015, 10:07:25 AM

I took the car in to have the scrape repaired and paid £120 rather than even contact the insurance company as they place all such calls on your record. Needless to say I later ended up with the inevitable "We gather you've been involved in an accident........" type phone calls which can only have resulted from the repairer informing these leeches :veryangry:

Insurance companies...license to print money for me!

They seem to apply whatever logic suits when trying to justify a premium.

Surely it should be based on risk and not sales targets, profitability and generally "how much can we get away with".

For my wife's car (a five year old 1.4 Citroen - don't judge) we are paying more than we did for a Peugeot 205 GTi (1.6) we had over ten years ago.  This is despite living in a lower crime rate post code with off street parking and the best part of twenty years driving experience!

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on July 07, 2015, 09:39:07 AM
Just got back to the office after 2 days away.........NOT GOOD
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on July 07, 2015, 10:40:20 AM
Quote from: paulprice on July 07, 2015, 09:39:07 AM
Just got back to the office after 2 days away.........NOT GOOD

There's only one cure PP - Retire!!

Well, it worked for me  :claphappy:

Hope your week improves. ;)

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on July 07, 2015, 11:20:03 AM
Im too young to retire
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on July 07, 2015, 01:07:38 PM
You're never too young to retire, just not rich enough to do so early ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on July 09, 2015, 12:44:11 PM
I avoid the angry thread 'cos I  don't think it's healthy to be angry. However Sprintex  has just prompted me 'cos I  know he's  carhead....  ;D

Brand new car that was shunted up the backside was supposedly fixed today. Paid money, took home, went to club for a beer, taxi home, Mrs Bealman says there's something wrong. Car not fixed.

Sure enough, whole panel popped off and loose. Now off I go tomorrow, a fair way away from home and like 2 degrees on an Aussie winter morning to have the inevitable argument.

Why do these people do it? Get it right in the first place!  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on July 09, 2015, 01:02:08 PM
Quote from: Only Me on July 09, 2015, 12:54:13 PM
New car 320 miles on the clock, just returned from what was always my best "good" hand car wash.... Scratch on wing....

Wash it yourself you lazy so-and-so  :P


I know the feeling too George  :(

Took my work-hack Fiesta for two new tyres yesterday and check the tracking - simple enough? Ooooooo no  ::)

Drive out of tyre centre, steering wheel on the wonk by about 20 degrees! :scowl: Back into tyre centre, tracking checked again, bloke says it's spot-on. So why is my steering wheel wonky when it wasn't before hmm?? Can't explain that (funnily enough!) so took car home. Now as usual I don't trust ANY garage so I double checked the wheel nuts were torqued right - three were, the locking one wasn't - BOTH sides. Checked the spare wheel cradle under the boot was tightened - it wasn't. Finally double-checked the tyre pressures were correct - one was right at 35PSI, the other one was 40PSI  :no: Once I'd l'd set it back to 35PSI mysteriously half of that steering-wheel-wonk disappeared :D Just been out there with a couple of spanners and steering wheel is all straight again in five minutes :thumbsup:

And people think I'm mad when I drive 50 miles each way to get my cars MOT'd every year - worth it to me because it's my cousin's garage and he's the only person I can trust to do it properly and not try to sting me for things that don't need doing!  ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on July 09, 2015, 10:11:26 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on July 09, 2015, 01:02:08 PM
Quote from: Only Me on July 09, 2015, 12:54:13 PM
New car 320 miles on the clock, just returned from what was always my best "good" hand car wash.... Scratch on wing....
Wash it yourself you lazy so-and-so  :P
:laughabovepost:
In 5#*+y of motoring I have never ever used a car wash !
Does that make me unique, or just skinflint ? :)

PS I would not know how,
and these days I baulk at the tyre-air pumps and their slots demanding money or tokens,
so I do it myself with foot pump, well doc. tells me I need excersize :)


Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DELETED on July 11, 2015, 01:12:29 AM
This weeks trauma:

I have been with my current motor insurers for about 8 years and had about 10 cars / 10 policies with them and they've always been cheaper.  However, I tried to make contact by phone to discuss a policy change 16 times so far this week and just gave up as always been put on hold and now I give up -another company got the policy for the car I bought today. New car has a dashboard warning light on (should just be an exterior bulb) -so much for MoT's -should have been fixed.  Grr.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: woodbury22uk on July 11, 2015, 06:35:55 AM
Quote from: lionwing on July 02, 2015, 12:11:29 PM

Insurance companies...license to print money for me!


I found a way to get my once-upon-a-time travel insurers to pay.

I had my wallet stolen in Paris as we were on our way to the airport for our flight home. The choice was 1) Report to local police and miss the flight or 2) Catch the flight to reduce the cost of the claim and appeal to the insurer's good nature. My claim included a statement claiming that I had mitigated the loss by coming home directly and not costing more for an overnight hotel and new flight tickets.

Turned out that the insurers did not have a better nature and declined the claim because the theft was not reported to the French police.

So one morning I called the insurers from a busy station with lots of background noise and, using my best breathless agitated voice, reported that I had had my wallet stolen. I gave them the two options and they chose "catch the flight".  I then came clean about the ruse, and they agreed to pay the original claim. I even received an apology, and they waived the excess,
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 11, 2015, 01:51:36 PM
Nice one, Mike. Hoisted the buggers on their own petard :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 13, 2015, 09:22:16 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on May 31, 2015, 04:55:14 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 17, 2015, 09:01:11 PM
Had a heart test involving a treadmill/radio-active injection this morning.

This was followed up with another one 4 days later and then nothing, zilch, nada until yesterday morning when I got a letter inviting me to have tiffin with the cardiologist consultant.................on the 13th July 2015 ???
From the beginning of December last year the problem has not gone away yet it will be 7 months until I get results from the 'expert'. I am quite sure there are more needy folks than I of his time but, by heck, it's dragging on. I guess I have to console myself with the fact it can't be anything too serious or they'd have called me in sooner :hmmm:

Appointment with the consultant at 17.40 to day so got there at 17.25 and then had to wait until 18.30 to see him, although it wasn't the guy who usually deals with my case, so I had to wait while he read my notes on the computer or fell asleep (still not sure which he did). I did ask if he wanted me to carry on reading my book while he did whatever he was doing. I'd had my weight and blood pressure taken when I first went in and he said my blood pressure was high, to which I replied "I'm not surprised after that wait"
I now have to wait 4-6 weeks to have an angiogram and then see him again in 4 months time.
Just wondering whether to tell 'em where to go and, if I peg out, I peg out.
I'm sure I'd get better service from the crem :veryangry2: :veryangry2: :veryangry2:
:dighole:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on July 13, 2015, 09:54:40 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 13, 2015, 09:22:16 PM
to have an angiogram
,
I peg out.
Greetings everyone,
anybody wondering why i have not posted anything for a few days even though my username has been loged on since Friday ?
Well the lights were on but no one was home !
Fri morning I had a little jolly via a scenic route with special effects by the novelty ambulance company residing on 999 ! Followed by a stay at her Maj's pleasure at one of her Royal Infirmaries.
And boy did I feel infirm !
All arranged for me by a kindly paramedic, at whose feet I fell and his chums :)
followed swiftly by an angiogram and "Ho! we'ed better do something about that " angioplasty.
Then all the docs went off for a weekend break, back this morning to say "you can go home now".
So I'm still here, just !
Try that approach npn :)

Kinda delayed The Hunting of the Snark   Jabberwocky   Jabliteboard a bit though :(
Not sure when the mojo will return either.




Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 13, 2015, 09:57:51 PM
Sorry to hear about your weekend in the krankenhaus, Malcolm, and hope you feel better very soon :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on July 13, 2015, 10:09:33 PM
Commiserations to Mick and Al re their recent cardio 'events'.

Been there. Want to buy a slightly used T shirt?

Three angiograms so far and it remains a 'no go' re stents or anything else, so I take a bucket of tablets each day. One big blighter is to help prevent another TIA, or worse.

Doc told me that those on the chemical trail last equally as long as those having tubes replaced/hardware inserted, so I am quietly grateful for that.

Take it easy you guys, you're needed here!  :beers:

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on July 13, 2015, 10:11:01 PM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on July 09, 2015, 10:11:26 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on July 09, 2015, 01:02:08 PM
Quote from: Only Me on July 09, 2015, 12:54:13 PM
New car 320 miles on the clock, just returned from what was always my best "good" hand car wash.... Scratch on wing....
Wash it yourself you lazy so-and-so  :P
:laughabovepost:
In 5#*+y of motoring I have never ever used a car wash !
Does that make me unique, or just skinflint ? :)

PS I would not know how,
and these days I baulk at the tyre-air pumps and their slots demanding money or tokens,
so I do it myself with foot pump, well doc. tells me I need excersize :)

The automated car washes can be pretty risky as they can easily scratch your paintwork and the coin operated air pumps are very rarely accurate so a foot pump (or car powered electric pump) with a manual tyre pressure gauge is a lot better for your weekly tyre checks.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on July 14, 2015, 02:05:51 AM
Last Sunday, my wifi dongle seemed to have stopped getting a signal. Spent a couple of hours tinkering with various settings - no go. As I live in a very rural part of Ireland, it is not unusual to have a rubbish signal. Monday, I try again, nothing, so I thinks to myself, "Use the last restore point". As I had bought myself to a new laptop just the previous week, there was no restore point!  :doh: So I reset the laptop to factory settings. This of course meant that I lost the programmes I had spent a couple of hours downloding  :veryangry:. Still no go. So I ring the ISP and the conversation went something like this - Me: "Is there a problem with t'internet?" Operator: "No". Me: "I can't connect". Op: (Try this, that and the other). Me: "No, still not working". Op: "Just a minute, (cue 'hold' music) You're account has been suspended". Me: "Why? " Op: "You've exceeded your credit limit". Me: "I don't have one, I have a €10 PAYG Broadband only sim". Op: "You still get a credit limit". Me: "Ok, what's the limit?" Op: "€200". Me:  ":censored: :censored: :censored: Are you saying I have spent over €200?" Op: "Yes". Me: "How come? I never normally get near my 20GB limit". Op: "You downloaded over 6GB last Sunday". Me:"What did I download?" Op: "We have no way of knowing what sites are visited, only that the data was used. You can not prove that you didn't download, likewise we can not prove it was you, only that your connection was used".  :'( The problem seems to have happened because I downloaded a YouTube video which then went into some sort of loop! There was a report of similar circumstances for someone else in a recent computer magazine. The upshot of this is that every now and then, I now disconnect totally from the web and keep a very close eye on the ISP website to see just what I am using. You have been warned!  David.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on July 14, 2015, 08:57:24 AM
Quote from: Zwilnik on July 13, 2015, 10:11:01 PM
.............. the coin operated air pumps are very rarely accurate so a foot pump (or car powered electric pump) with a manual tyre pressure gauge is a lot better for your weekly tyre checks.

I may well be wrong on this, but I was given to understand that because you are charged to use the air pump then it must be calibrated and correct, whereas the free ones don't.

the latest con round here at Tesco is that the free water now just comes out of a nozzle on the side of the unit, of course you have a container don't you  :no:, and its  quid to get x seconds of screenwash  :hmmm:

also, I used to be able to start the air pump, and do all five tyres on one coin, removing and replacing the valve covers tyre by tyre, now I need to remove all the valve covers, then start the machine and if I'm lucky I'll get all done before it runs out, and then put the valve covers back on.

guess they've got to make more money somehow.

alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: woodbury22uk on July 14, 2015, 09:48:34 AM
Our local Sainsbury's has a new petrol station and free air. Hooray. But the narrow bay you park in has a raised kerb all round so if the valves are at the bottom of the wheel you need to be Uri Geller to get the pump wand to the valve. Design clever, eh?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on July 14, 2015, 09:50:51 AM
Cheap compressor from Halfords or Argos, job done ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on July 14, 2015, 10:28:45 AM
Quote from: class37025 on July 14, 2015, 08:57:24 AM
Quote from: Zwilnik on July 13, 2015, 10:11:01 PM
.............. the coin operated air pumps are very rarely accurate so a foot pump (or car powered electric pump) with a manual tyre pressure gauge is a lot better for your weekly tyre checks.

I may well be wrong on this, but I was given to understand that because you are charged to use the air pump then it must be calibrated and correct, whereas the free ones don't.



alan

Nah, they're just about calibrated when installed and that's it. Always worth having a manual tyre pressure gauge in your car so you can check regularly (or use it to check the pressures when using a garage pump).
I've got the cheap Halfords compressor too (think it's a Michelin one). Although I don't use the digital gauge on it as it's wildly inaccurate.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ditape on July 14, 2015, 03:43:37 PM
Bad computer day,dreaded blue screen of death on my main PC :veryangry:,so I dug out my old long left dormant laptop and just spent all day bringing it up to date,I did not realise how long it had been since I had used it , so lots  :censored: updates to be done.You can see I am back up and running again,looking for replacement but will probably wait till next month to buy a replacement as Windows 10 is due out at the end of the month.

note to self,I must back up more often.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on July 14, 2015, 04:02:16 PM
Good luck with Wind-ers 10.

Not read it up but I intend to wait a while before I upgrade as from previous experience there's always something that sulks!

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on July 14, 2015, 05:02:35 PM
Despite qualifying, I'm gonna give 8.2 a miss ... well, on my main system anyway.  Might put it onto a VM & have a ganders ...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on July 14, 2015, 07:49:54 PM
Quote from: Ditape on July 14, 2015, 03:43:37 PM
just spent all day bringing it up to date,I did not realise how long it had been since I had used it , so lots  :censored: updates to be done.

note to self,I must back up more often.
When I set the new laptop up, after the reset mentioned earlier, there was 126 updates - took hours  :'( . David.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GeeBee on July 14, 2015, 08:39:38 PM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on July 13, 2015, 09:54:40 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 13, 2015, 09:22:16 PM
to have an angiogram
,
I peg out.
Greetings everyone,
anybody wondering why i have not posted anything for a few days even though my username has been loged on since Friday ?
Well the lights were on but no one was home !
Fri morning I had a little jolly via a scenic route with special effects by the novelty ambulance company residing on 999 ! Followed by a stay at her Maj's pleasure at one of her Royal Infirmaries.
And boy did I feel infirm !
All arranged for me by a kindly paramedic, at whose feet I fell and his chums :)
followed swiftly by an angiogram and "Ho! we'ed better do something about that " angioplasty.
Then all the docs went off for a weekend break, back this morning to say "you can go home now".
So I'm still here, just !
Try that approach npn :)

Kinda delayed The Hunting of the Snark   Jabberwocky   Jabliteboard a bit though :(
Not sure when the mojo will return either.


And NPN
Appointment with the consultant at 17.40 to day so got there at 17.25 and then had to wait until 18.30 to see him, although it wasn't the guy who usually deals with my case, so I had to wait while he read my notes on the computer or fell asleep (still not sure which he did). I did ask if he wanted me to carry on reading my book while he did whatever he was doing. I'd had my weight and blood pressure taken when I first went in and he said my blood pressure was high, to which I replied "I'm not surprised after that wait"
I now have to wait 4-6 weeks to have an angiogram and then see him again in 4 months time.
Just wondering whether to tell 'em where to go and, if I peg out, I peg out.
I'm sure I'd get better service from the crem :veryangry2: :veryangry2: :veryangry2:
:dighole:

My thoughts are with you both having been there 3 weeks ago I found the best way to get their attention was to have another Heart attack in hospital on a Sunday evening as a result of that Monday morning 9 am sharp in for Angiogram and after 2 and 3/4 hours back out having had 2 stents fitted and now starting to recover from it all I hope you both reach satisfactory conclusions shortly
Graham
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on July 14, 2015, 09:09:13 PM
Quote from: GeeBee on July 14, 2015, 08:39:38 PM
I found the best way to get their attention was to have another Heart attack in hospital on a Sunday evening
Seems a tad drastic to me ...  :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on July 14, 2015, 09:11:03 PM
Hope you're up and at 'em very soon GeeBee!  :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 14, 2015, 09:27:31 PM
That explains why another of your posts said Martini Holt was on hold for a few weeks, Graham.
Best wishes for a speedy recovery but I think I'll pass on having a heart attack to get an angiogram earlier than they've offered :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on July 14, 2015, 09:57:16 PM
Quote from: GeeBee on July 14, 2015, 08:39:38 PMthe best way to get their attention was to have another Heart attack in hospital
Gosh !  I bet it did !! Still, if your gonna have another that is the best place to do it (trying to look on the bright side :) )

My second one was 2 weeks after they discharged me from my first ( which was a bit of a blot on their pride lol! In the words of the immortal Spike " I told them I wasnt well " !! ) ) that was 5&1/2 years ago.
I must stop making a habbit of this :(

best wishes for you Graham and y'all.

Oh PS :-
Quote from: MikeDunn on July 14, 2015, 09:09:13 PM
Seems a tad drastic to me ...  :uneasy:
Not as drastic as not getting their attention ?  :laugh3:

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GeeBee on July 15, 2015, 11:10:41 AM
Thanks to every one I am on the mend now but still feel very tired very easily
Mick
Hope you are coping well that was what the original message was try to say
Graham
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 15, 2015, 12:22:46 PM
Quote from: GeeBee on July 15, 2015, 11:10:41 AM

Mick
Hope you are coping well that was what the original message was try to say
Graham

Hi Graham,
I think it's more frustration than anything else. My symptoms started to show after a bout of bronchitis in December 2014 and, going on them offering me a follow up appointment in 4 months time, it looks as if it could be one year on I might get sorted ::)
I'm also concerned that, having had 2 hernia operations in the past and a replacement hip op last year, I'm not confident in doing too much exercise wise and am piling on the timber, as they say :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on July 15, 2015, 01:47:59 PM
Sounds like they are trying to turn you into the bionic man in easy stages, Mick.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on July 19, 2015, 03:22:35 PM
Ewww... one of the downsides to the more subtropical areas of this planet is the insect life, particularly a certain kind which is rumoured to be able to survive full-on nuclear warfare. I was minding my own business earlier when I saw a suspiscious movement out of the corner of my eye and yup, Mr. C.R. had somehow found his way through the defences. First one in about 3 years. No potent sprays at hand alas, and I prefer not to use direct violence as the buggers are a) hard to score a direct hit on, and b) make a really nasty mess. What you need is a solid-ish box, and a piece of stout cardboard to slide under it, which luckily I was able to procure from the railway room office, during which time the offending creepy-crawly had kindly made his way onto the floor. The next part of the operation involves sidling nonchalantly in the general direction of the yucky beast while not making eye contact (antenna contact?) - you can practice that on cats by the way. One quick overarm box-drop later and it is imprisoned - carefully slide the stiff cardboard under the box and hermetically seal it with duct tape or similar (you did grab some I hope?). Carefully place the whole ensemble in a plastic bag, seal that and be thankful that tomorrow is Burnable Garbage Day.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 19, 2015, 03:31:06 PM
Asphyxiation and fire are nothing to Mr. C.R. :no:
You just know he'll be back soon to take his revenge.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on July 20, 2015, 06:30:17 PM
 :veryangry:

Sitting on hold with the irritating Argos call robot informing me that "I am in a que" and "You may continue to hold or alternatively, call us back".....30 minutes and counting. Its a good job its a free call.

Why you ask?

Because I have just found out they have taken £449.99 off me for a new cooker. Unfortunately, since the other half had a phone call from them earlier saying "it is out of stock and we don't know when it will be back in", I have effectively handed over a hill of money for :censored: all.

ARG!

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 20, 2015, 09:14:42 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 15, 2015, 12:22:46 PM

Hi Graham,
I think it's more frustration than anything else. My symptoms started to show after a bout of bronchitis in December 2014 and, going on them offering me a follow up appointment in 4 months time, it looks as if it could be one year on I might get sorted ::)


Have an appointment for an ECG on 7th August, still waiting to hear about an angiogram, and have a letter confirming follow up appointment with the consultant......................on 20th November! :veryangry2: :headbutt: :headbutt:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on July 20, 2015, 09:37:49 PM
Blimey Mick, that's awful!

Having had 3 angios meself, why don't you pop down for the day.

I've got a sharpish knife and fork, an old telly and loads of cable. I'm sure we can sort something out!

How difficult can it be?  :D

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GeeBee on July 20, 2015, 11:52:50 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 20, 2015, 09:14:42 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 15, 2015, 12:22:46 PM

Hi Graham,
I think it's more frustration than anything else. My symptoms started to show after a bout of bronchitis in December 2014 and, going on them offering me a follow up appointment in 4 months time, it looks as if it could be one year on I might get sorted ::)


Have an appointment for an ECG on 7th August, still waiting to hear about an angiogram, and have a letter confirming follow up appointment with the consultant......................on 20th November! :veryangry2: :headbutt: :headbutt:


Sorry to hear they are still mucking you about lets hope somebody gets their act together fairl quickly
Graham
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Webbo on July 21, 2015, 08:08:43 AM
Quote from: railsquid on July 19, 2015, 03:22:35 PM
Ewww... one of the downsides to the more subtropical areas of this planet is the insect life, particularly a certain kind which is rumoured to be able to survive full-on nuclear warfare. I was minding my own business earlier when I saw a suspiscious movement out of the corner of my eye and yup, Mr. C.R. had somehow found his way through the defences. First one in about 3 years. No potent sprays at hand alas, and I prefer not to use direct violence as the buggers are a) hard to score a direct hit on, and b) make a really nasty mess. What you need is a solid-ish box, and a piece of stout cardboard to slide under it, which luckily I was able to procure from the railway room office, during which time the offending creepy-crawly had kindly made his way onto the floor. The next part of the operation involves sidling nonchalantly in the general direction of the yucky beast while not making eye contact (antenna contact?) - you can practice that on cats by the way. One quick overarm box-drop later and it is imprisoned - carefully slide the stiff cardboard under the box and hermetically seal it with duct tape or similar (you did grab some I hope?). Carefully place the whole ensemble in a plastic bag, seal that and be thankful that tomorrow is Burnable Garbage Day.

They really are quite beautiful creatures so I kill them with reluctance. Better to catch them then throw them over the fence into your neighbours yard.

However, a few months back I noticed what looked like small chew marks on my Sculptamold scenery only visible because the grey colouring of my rocks showed white specks. I suspected Mr C.R. and he is getting the blame whether guilty or not. Several anti-insect bombs released in my shed sorted out the problem along with knocking off the daddy long legs spiders as well. These spiders leave 'specks' which are also a nuisance. It may be time for another bomb application as I saw a small cockroach just the other day. Chemical solutions aren't the greatest, but I've had my kids so I'm not too worried about genetic damage any more.

Webbo 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on July 21, 2015, 09:30:15 AM
AAARRGGGGHHHHHH whoever invented those plastic blister pack things, should be encased in one.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on July 21, 2015, 09:41:53 AM
Quote from: paulprice on July 21, 2015, 09:30:15 AM
AAARRGGGGHHHHHH whoever invented those plastic blister pack things, should be encased in one.

Totally agree!

Hate the darned things and I thought they were to be banned as recycling was/is a problem if not impossible.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trent on July 21, 2015, 09:07:53 PM
With regard to the argos situation, you're probably savvy to this already but working in a phone hole myself, I'd advise that if at all possible get someone's name and a reference number and be more patient with whoever picks up than they deserve. It's all about distinguishing yourself from the professional complainers/scammers who are a thorn in the side of customer and staff alike ...

Full respect to those undergoing heavy surgery, remember the body has resistant qualities. 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on July 21, 2015, 09:22:18 PM
Thanks Trent, sound advice.

I do follow it as I have had many dealings with call centres in the past, I never ever allow myself to swear for example as that looses the high ground.

They have 24 hours of their own deadline left before I speak to them again. They are playing the "speak to the manufacture" card which I won't swallow as I ordered it from Argos and they took my money. If no delivery date tomorrow will be cancelling.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on July 21, 2015, 10:30:23 PM
You did pay by cc, didn't you ...  :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on July 22, 2015, 05:51:34 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on July 21, 2015, 10:30:23 PM
You did pay by cc, didn't you ...  :uneasy:

I don't own a credit card, so that would be a problem  :hmmm:

Anyway just spoken to a very nice lady at the manufacturer who has informed me of the next date for batch manufacture of my cooker. I am prepared to wait as its next month. Quite apart from the fact that I am doing their job for them, if Argos had just told me this instead of promising it within 10 days I would have had no issue!

Not a good review coming Argos way when finally delivered 😝

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on July 22, 2015, 06:04:52 PM
Quote from: Only Me on July 22, 2015, 06:01:03 PM
Get your miney back mate and go to ao.com 24hour service and much cheaper!

Our new oven was purchased on the Friday and delivered saturday am! Also the cheapest place about!

Normally would agree with you 100%. I used AO for 3 out of 4 of our new appliances when we moved in.

Alas don't stock the cooker we wanted so went for this one on sale.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Zogbert Splod on July 22, 2015, 07:14:10 PM
I do shop at Argos, but not on line, nor do I order anything that requires them to deliver.  I kid you not - I have bought four major items (requiring delivery) in the last eighteen months and every one of them had to go back for replacement, one of them twice.  On every occasion this was due to handling damage, dings and dents...

Nah, not again.....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lionwing on July 23, 2015, 01:54:29 PM
Credit cards...that reminds me...

My wife is a fan if iphones.  I on the other hand have never been a fan of Apple products or software.  There are so "closed" and unfriendly to non-Apple products / software it is unreal!

Earlier this week both my wife & I changed our mobile phones.  Mine was a simply process...activate the new sim (took ten minutes), move the memory card over to the new phone, sign the phone into my Google account...sorted...twenty minutes tops and everything I need to use the phone was there!

Apple...well...first off all you need a "tool" to open the sim slot, the whole phone then needs backing up to itunes (that's an hour of messing around I won't get back) and then the new phone plugging in and then all the backed up data had to be copied back...(another forty five minutes)...so after nearly two hours it was done.

Along the way itunes reminded me that it requires a valid payment method...i.e card details.  Well as we don't purchase from itunes...I didn't bother putting one in.

So...we had a old iphone which my son had asked if he can have.  Yup no problem.

I started the setup process so that I could hand him to him all ready to go.  Being as he is eleven his Apple ID needs to be tagged to a adult account.  Ok..so after mmm..let's say a another thirty minutes spent doing this Apple tells me it needs payment details without which it cannot setup up a Family Account. 

Reluctantly I pulled by debit card from my wallet and entered the details..."card cannot be validated" said Apple..."You cannot use a debit card...you must use a credit card.."...why?  I have no idea but with the time spent sorting out two iphones, my adversity to owning a credit card and now what is a serious dislike of Apple products I'ill be glad if I never see the miserable bitten apple again!

I honestly don't even think they are well design products as so many people think.  At best I find them "clunky" and lacking obvious user friendly features that Android offers. 

Simple stuff like looking up a Contact..Apple needs two inputs to do this...Android...one!  Not a big thing at all but carry this design element through the whole system and I wonder what people see in Apple.

I really hope Apple don't ever design a car! That would be catastrophic...to open it of course you would need to own other Apple products because they would have the "key" programmed into them, it could only be filled up at Apple approved petrol stations (well rather than use a standard phone charger Apple have designed their own which changes everytime they bring a new model out)...and or course they would log every journey you took and then use the collected data to profile you as a person and send you personal advertising....

Ok...as you were...rant over...

:)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on July 23, 2015, 02:07:23 PM
I have just seen toilet roll with a "balm" added to help provide comfort........what in the name of God is that all about???

I don't know about you chaps, but my AR :censored: can tell the difference between a wiping with crushed glass or IZAL paper I believe it called  and normal toilet roll and that's about it.

WHAT DO WE NEED A BALM FOR? AND If we do need one how long do you wipe your AR :censored: for before you "feel" the benefit??

I can just about see the point of coloured roll, if only to wind the other half up when I deliberately by colours that calash with the bathroom  :P but come on. and that's another thing, when did they become bloody quilted, and that's before you even get the double quilted variety.

AND, super absorbent, ITS NOT if it was SUPER ABSORBENT it would soak up all the water in the bowl and it DOSENT. AARRRGGGHHHHHHH
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lionwing on July 23, 2015, 02:28:57 PM
 :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on July 23, 2015, 02:48:10 PM
Quote from: paulprice on July 23, 2015, 02:07:23 PM
I have just seen toilet roll with a "balm" added to help provide comfort........what in the name of God is that all about???

I don't know about you chaps, but my AR :censored: can tell the difference between a wiping with crushed glass or IZAL paper I believe it called  and normal toilet roll and that's about it.

WHAT DO WE NEED A BALM FOR? AND If we do need one how long do you wipe your AR :censored: for before you "feel" the benefit??

I can just about see the point of coloured roll, if only to wind the other half up when I deliberately by colours that calash with the bathroom  :P but come on. and that's another thing, when did they become bloody quilted, and that's before you even get the double quilted variety.

AND, super absorbent, ITS NOT if it was SUPER ABSORBENT it would soak up all the water in the bowl and it DOSENT. AARRRGGGHHHHHHH

Paul,

Brilliant!! Best rant of the day so far.

Now I was chuckling at lionwings effort about the Iphone, but decided that his was more a 'whinge' than a 'rant'.

Yours on the other hand is a 'rant' about modern life that would be funny on Room101 and so sir, I award you the 'Rant of the Day', you don't actually get anything, apart from the satisfaction that you at least brightened my day up no ends.

Well done  :claphappy: :claphappy: :claphappy:

Regards

Neal

P.S. Samsung tablets are coffee spray proof, as long as you wipe them quickly   ;) ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lionwing on July 23, 2015, 03:21:49 PM
So this is a competition now.

Well sit down and read this...

As Paul has brought up the topic of Bathrooms I bring your attention to the "Push / Pull Plug".

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bathroom-Basin-Push-Lever-Waste/dp/B0098Y7XPO (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bathroom-Basin-Push-Lever-Waste/dp/B0098Y7XPO)

There are examples around the world of something being considered a good idea but is perhaps not actually that useful.  The PPP fits that category.  The level of engineering, precision design and investment needed to manufacture this item far exceeds its actual usefulness!

The humble plug on a chain is the one and only solution needed to stop water running down the plug hole of a basin or bath...that's it..nothing else needed!

I would have hoped at some point during the design process that there was a conversation that involved the words..."Really..."..."No.."..."Design something useful or go home"...

Winge / rant over...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on July 23, 2015, 05:32:31 PM
Quote from: lionwing on July 23, 2015, 03:21:49 PM

The humble plug on a chain is the one and only solution needed to stop water running down the plug hole of a basin or bath...that's it..nothing else needed!
Unfortunately, there seem to be hundreds of avid plug and chain collectors out there. Every public convenience seems to have been visited and the plugs nicked. At least with the plunger type, there is a chance of it still being there.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 23, 2015, 08:47:53 PM
Just taken Mum into hospital to have an operation and she was told to report to admissions at 18.00hrs.
Yeah - you've guessed it. Admissions was closed :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on July 23, 2015, 09:14:17 PM
I think I can guess ... but did they admit her ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 23, 2015, 09:19:13 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on July 23, 2015, 09:14:17 PM
I think I can guess ... but did they admit her ?

We just went straight to the ward Mum had been advised about in a letter, Mike.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on July 23, 2015, 09:39:53 PM
I hope it's nothing serious Mick please give her my regards I was pleased to meet her at Conway show .
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on July 23, 2015, 09:59:10 PM
Phew !  No doubt both of you were a bit leery on them admitting her ...

Hope all goes well  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on July 23, 2015, 10:23:26 PM
Well ... what an evening ...  :confused1:

Had the BT bod in today, setting me up with a new faceplate and a fibre modem - yup, the village now has fibre broadband (waited 7 months for them to finish wiring the box up !  :o ) & it seems I may be the first connected ...  ::)  So that belongs in the Happy Thread, yes ?

Well ... no ... not really ...

Ran some speed tests this morning, and was getting about 1Mb up & 10Mb down (not bad for a connection that's supposed to be 6Mb !!!).  With fibre, I was seeing 2Mb up (hmmm - well, faster but hardly the 20Mb promised ... but maybe that's part of the 10 day "settling in" stuff  :uneasy: ).  The down speed was a whopping 2Mb :smackedface: ... say what  :censored: .  Gave it a while, and it ranged from 0.5Mb to 2.2Mb  :censored:  Not happy - an 80% decrease over ADSL !!!  :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

Gave the ISP a call (PlusNet), and after 35 minutes queued up :scowl: had the phone answered ... ran through a bunch of stuff with the guy, & he agreed things weren't looking right ...  He went off to get some tests done, & called back about 30 mins later.  We ran through more tests, and after almost an hour we'd determined that SWMBO's tablet on wireless hits 40Mb down & just under 20Mb up when a few foot away from the device - but a rapid drop-off moving away.  Seeing as wireless had always been pretty good (when on the old kit ...) I'm blaming this PN kit  :thumbsdown:

So he arranges for 2nd/3rd line to call me before Monday :hmmm: & I have my tea ... after which I start "playing" ...

Plugging a lappie straight into the BT modem, I get 12Mb up and 75Mb down - now that's more like it !  Except all the systems are in other rooms, not in the hallway (that's why we have wireless  ::)) !  Swap into the PN router - 75Mb down & 15Mb up  :thumbsup:  OK, so on LAN it's not  :poop:

Check SWMBO's PC on wireless - 5Mb down, 4.5Mb up  :worried:  Swap in the wireless dongle for the RasPi and it goes to 0.15 down & 2.25 up  :computerangry:  Move back to my PC, and the normal dongle is 5.6Mb down & 5.8Mb up; using the RasPi dongle it's 17Mb down & 15Mb up  :confused2:

The moral of the story ?  Stick with ADSL !!!  Don't use wireless with PN kit  :headbutt:  Looks like I'll have to buy me either a decent fibre wireless router (as my ADSL one apparently can't function with the BT modem)  or I get a set of Powerline modules ...  ARGH !!!  Will see what PN say, maybe they'll send me a decent box - or maybe not !  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 23, 2015, 10:37:48 PM
Sheesh! What a palaver. :goggleeyes:
Hope they can sort you out.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on July 23, 2015, 11:14:11 PM
Quote from: paulprice on July 23, 2015, 02:07:23 PM
or IZAL paper
Wow! that's a blast from the past, dont tell me you can still buy it ?
News of the World was infinitly better but more recent.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DELETED on July 23, 2015, 11:22:10 PM
Well I'm still job hunting -very difficult for us ginger beers at the moment. If I could go back I would never have done a degree until I was time-served first.  I can't even find any jobs to even apply for now, even speculatively.

I down-graded my car the other week for something newer and cheaper long-term (cheaper to run, cheaper VED, cheaper insurance and 11 years newer -I was offered a trade-in on my Nissan I couldn't really afford to miss).  The other day the rear wash pipe blew and was soaking my clutch foot each time I used the washer (god knows why they route the pipe under the dash).  Garaged fixed it under warranty -no probs, but when I got it back they left greasy paw prints all over the very minty light grey head lining so it had to go back again for cleaning -luckily it all came out fine today -but I noticed the parcel shelf is broken now and it was OK beforehand!

I'm temping and my agency sent me a text saying they noticed I'm not claiming expenses for travel to work this past month.  They run a scheme through HMRC where I can claim petrol money for commuting because I'm just a temp.  When I went through the figures with them I could get a decent (gross) amount back each month adjusted through my tax bracket -but their admin fee for processing it is knocking on for 1,000% of the net return I'd actually get get!  Not even worth pursuing with them, £2 net return for a £20 admin fee each week PFFF  I'm not that desperate yet!!!!!!

Nothing is simple these days is it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on July 24, 2015, 12:05:51 AM
Quote from: RST on July 23, 2015, 11:22:10 PMNothing is simple these days is it.
So very true.
sorry for your tribulations.
cant think of a suitable emoticon to add, hope things get better soon.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on July 24, 2015, 02:45:56 AM
Quote from: RST on July 23, 2015, 11:22:10 PM
Well I'm still job hunting -very difficult for us ginger beers at the moment. If I could go back I would never have done a degree until I was time-served first.  I can't even find any jobs to even apply for now, even speculatively.

Know the feeling with job hunting, I too am in temporary employment and even the jobs I do apply for have 40+ applications in most cases. I know someone has to get it but the longer it goes on the less relevant experience I have  :(

By the way, I don't know what "ginger beers" refers to there but it stands for something very different down here! ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on July 24, 2015, 07:14:44 AM
I suspect that's Engineers, Paul.  :D

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on July 24, 2015, 09:15:44 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 23, 2015, 10:37:48 PM
Sheesh! What a palaver. :goggleeyes:
Hope they can sort you out.
Oh aye ...  SWMBO's not amused (we were almost at the end of making tea when they called back - I was mashing spuds & she was getting the bangers from under the grill - tea delayed by an hour, you can imagine the looks I was getting  :worried:), and the messing about getting stats etc after tea took me to 9 ...

Still a bit narked on the wireless signal out of the PN box; but it seems the modern receivers (like the RasPi one, and my works laptop) are OK with it - just my old ones that aren't ... :worried:  So I think it'll be Powerline or similar & I'll just let tablets use the WLAN !  Doubt PN will offer anything other than what they've already sent.

Now ... where can I get a 3-pack of Powerlines that have two Ethernet ports each as well as mains pass-through ...  ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lionwing on July 24, 2015, 10:22:51 AM
The dark art of internet connections!

I can appreciate why speeds can vary so dramatically with a small area but after twenty years of so of the 'net been available domestically you would hope they had it down to a much finer art!

Have a look at ebuyer for the equipment you need.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on July 24, 2015, 11:38:12 AM
Quote from: MikeDunn on July 23, 2015, 10:23:26 PM


Ran some speed tests this morning, and was getting about 1Mb up & 10Mb down (not bad for a connection that's supposed to be 6Mb !!!).  With fibre, I was seeing 2Mb up (hmmm - well, faster but hardly the 20Mb promised ... but maybe that's part of the 10 day "settling in" stuff  :uneasy: ).  The down speed was a whopping 2Mb :smackedface: ... say what  :censored: .  Gave it a while, and it ranged from 0.5Mb to 2.2Mb  :censored:  Not happy - an 80% decrease over ADSL !!!  :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

Gave the ISP a call (PlusNet), and after 35 minutes queued up :scowl: had the phone answered ... ran through a bunch of stuff with the guy, & he agreed things weren't looking right ...  He went off to get some tests done, & called back about 30 mins later.  We ran through more tests, and after almost an hour we'd determined that SWMBO's tablet on wireless hits 40Mb down & just under 20Mb up when a few foot away from the device - but a rapid drop-off moving away.  Seeing as wireless had always been pretty good (when on the old kit ...) I'm blaming this PN kit  :thumbsdown:

So he arranges for 2nd/3rd line to call me before Monday :hmmm: & I have my tea ... after which I start "playing" ...

Plugging a lappie straight into the BT modem, I get 12Mb up and 75Mb down - now that's more like it !  Except all the systems are in other rooms, not in the hallway (that's why we have wireless  ::)) !  Swap into the PN router - 75Mb down & 15Mb up  :thumbsup:  OK, so on LAN it's not  :poop:

Check SWMBO's PC on wireless - 5Mb down, 4.5Mb up  :worried:  Swap in the wireless dongle for the RasPi and it goes to 0.15 down & 2.25 up  :computerangry:  Move back to my PC, and the normal dongle is 5.6Mb down & 5.8Mb up; using the RasPi dongle it's 17Mb down & 15Mb up  :confused2:

The moral of the story ?  Stick with ADSL !!!  Don't use wireless with PN kit  :headbutt:  Looks like I'll have to buy me either a decent fibre wireless router (as my ADSL one apparently can't function with the BT modem)  or I get a set of Powerline modules ...  ARGH !!!  Will see what PN say, maybe they'll send me a decent box - or maybe not !  :hmmm:

Well here in the mountains Mrs "H" found the TV link "buffering about every 5 mins or more. So I ran a speed test our Internet speed has dropped from the acceptable 2 to 3 (if you are lucky) Mbps to abysmal. Checked my neighbours link it was the same.  Called our helpful...provider to be told after 20 mins if I wanted a technician to come out I would have to pay Euro 60.  Explained again that it could not be MY system no joy.  This morning at 07:00 it was back to its rapid self, just tested it now 0  yes 0.25Mbps.  So its just as well the beer and wine is cheap or we would be putting a for sale sign up.

Rant over.

Jerry
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on July 24, 2015, 12:24:40 PM
The problems with slow speed on Wifi is usually caused by which of the 802.11 types it used. Things progress quickly and new routers use 802.11n, but often still supply earlier formats like b and g, which older devices use and are much slower. It's a PITA.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on July 25, 2015, 09:05:25 AM
The only "Fibre" around here is found in cereal packets.

Speed this morning was a whopping 2.81 !  crack open the virtual champagne.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on July 25, 2015, 09:27:05 AM
Well the old Jam-Jar was booked in for a service today, at my local excellent garage. Dropped if off at 8am received phone call at 9:05am saying it need two new tyres and two new wheel bearings, so I'm expecting a £500 bill.

Bloody FORDS, but the good news they have all the parts
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zopadooper on July 26, 2015, 01:08:36 PM
Fancy wearing the tyres out!!!  Why not leave it in teh garage, they will last much longer
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on July 27, 2015, 07:48:03 AM
Don't get me started, after the weekend I now have proof that I am the only normal person on the world
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on July 27, 2015, 03:43:51 PM
Collected my new super dooper  inhaler on Saturday afternoon :-[My GP told me to go in person to the chemist so its workings could be explained.  Well I did understand the instructions and came home happy with it.
Snag is I havnt enough breath power to make it work so I'm still on the old inhaler. Must go and see her about it and see what the alternatives are
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 27, 2015, 03:46:55 PM
Is that the one where you pump 3-6 x doses from the inhaler into a perspex cylinder and then inhale from the cylinder, Jon?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jon898 on July 27, 2015, 03:50:27 PM
Quote from: paulprice on July 25, 2015, 09:27:05 AM
Bloody FORDS, but the good news they have all the parts

I was told that FORD stood for Fix Or Repair Daily, so of course they have the parts.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on July 27, 2015, 04:20:50 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 27, 2015, 03:46:55 PM
Is that the one where you pump 3-6 x doses from the inhaler into a perspex cylinder and then inhale from the cylinder, Jon?
No.
That I could .....and have ......coped with that.
This one has a button (trigger) on the top which turns a window below it green.
You then inhale until the window turns back to red You then know you have taken the whole dose
I just cant inhale strongly enough and the dam thing refuses you a second chance
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 27, 2015, 09:23:41 PM
Why is it that just when I've spent some dosh on a necessity (in this case a Western from Kernow :angel:) that just a few hours later I manage to break the lock on my front door so now I have to find a locksmith who will no doubt charge some exorbitant call out fee :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Yet_Another on July 27, 2015, 09:37:24 PM
Just use the back door?

Sorry. My sympathies. I cut my arm open breaking in to my own house in similar circumstances.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 27, 2015, 09:46:20 PM
I'm having to use the back door as a temporary measure but if anyone comes to visit that door leads into my 'office', the state of which makes a pigsty look the very model of neatness :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 29, 2015, 08:22:02 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 27, 2015, 09:23:41 PM
Why is it that just when I've spent some dosh on a necessity (in this case a Western from Kernow :angel:) that just a few hours later I manage to break the lock on my front door so now I have to find a locksmith who will no doubt charge some exorbitant call out fee :veryangry:

At £79 per hour labour and an £85 door mechanism + VAT for the  :censored: Treasury my door is fixed but that's 2 locos!!!!!!!!
Looks like I'l be down Preston docks (again) for a few nights :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on July 29, 2015, 09:15:42 PM
Just been running my Dapol Hall with a rake of chocolate and cream coaches - lubbly jubbly - on my test track. Test track is not fixed to base board and one of the track joints parted and the whole train dropped about 3 or 4ft on to the carpet. Ohh My Goddd!!
Hall bogie fixing got wrenched out of the chassis. Buffer beam broken, buffer snapped off. Rear NEM coupling snapped off and disappeared into the unknown.
Fortunately managed to repair all with a bit of careful refitting and a bit of superglue. Almost as good as new and still runs ok. One or two minor bits of damage still remain but no one would know unless I pointed them out. Pheww!! Luckily all the coaches survived without damage - no doubt down to Farish good product design.
>:( :dunce: :dunce:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on July 29, 2015, 09:33:58 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 29, 2015, 08:22:02 PM
At £79 per hour labour and an £85 door mechanism + VAT for the  :censored: Treasury my door is fixed but that's 2 locos!!!!!!!!
Couldn't you just replace it yourself  ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on July 30, 2015, 08:19:32 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 29, 2015, 08:22:02 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 27, 2015, 09:23:41 PM
Why is it that just when I've spent some dosh on a necessity (in this case a Western from Kernow :angel:) that just a few hours later I manage to break the lock on my front door so now I have to find a locksmith who will no doubt charge some exorbitant call out fee :veryangry:

At £79 per hour labour and an £85 door mechanism + VAT for the  :censored: Treasury my door is fixed but that's 2 locos!!!!!!!!
Looks like I'l be down Preston docks (again) for a few nights :laugh:

:laughabovepost:

No, Mick, No! Please don't lower the tone of the area (again)!  :D

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: FeelixTC on July 30, 2015, 10:08:51 AM
Boiler (Baxi - not 'er indoors) has been playing up.

Engineer told me I needed a new pcb - £120  :goggleeyes:
Internet search proved him correct, until...........
Found a 'refurbished' pcb for £30. Now, I must admit, I was sceptical; how can you 'refurbish' a pcb? Took the gamble anyway.
Fitted pcb Saturday and boiler springs back into normal operation, high fives all round.

Until this morning, when I had no hot water again.

So here's the conundrum - It's either a) Not the pcb, or b) I got stiffed with my cheap alternative. Which way to go??

I hate having tradesmen in the house  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on July 30, 2015, 10:45:03 AM
Had a similar problem with my boiler some time back.

Recall it had a chip of some sort on the card that had lost its mind. No way to fix it so had to fork out for a new one. £80 odd back then. Bet the thing cost no more than a tenner to make it the first place but what can you do?

Good luck TC!

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on July 30, 2015, 10:52:26 AM
My recent experience with tradesman has been broadly positive.

But I will post the following on here as it seems more of a rant.

We are having a package of work done on the house at the moment (sorry, that's the engineering world coming out again) as it was far less hassle doing it all in one than separately.

This work includes new kitchen work tops, new overn hood, new bedroom cupboard doors and all new led lights in the kitchen and living room.

Apart from the biggest work surface revealing one of our walls is as straight as a not very straight thing (to be fair, nothing in our house is), the lights put up one hell of a fight.

I warned the sparky that there was a socking great transformer in the ceiling for the old halogen lights in the kitchen and probably the same in the living room (though that I had not seen myself). He assured me that was fine and he could replace circuit with minimal effort. Hmmmm. Got a text at lunch time Tuesday telling me all of my upstairs floors were up whilst he tried to locate said transformers!

Anyway, he found them and has now finished installing lovely new lights which should save me some dosh on electricity. However, the process revealed that whoever installed the old set up (our neighbour believes a pro sparky!) used "Industrial grade" kit which, in the kitchen at least, was starting to burn itself. Oh, and in the living room, had no earth.

Makes me wonder why the hell I bothered with any survey or mountain of paperwork at all when buying this place!

Anyway, happy with outcome, rant off.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: FeelixTC on July 30, 2015, 11:05:28 AM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on July 30, 2015, 10:52:26 AM
My recent experience with tradesman has been broadly positive.

But I will post the following on here as it seems more of a rant.

We are having a package of work done on the house at the moment (sorry, that's the engineering world coming out again) as it was far less hassle doing it all in one than separately.

This work includes new kitchen work tops, new overn hood, new bedroom cupboard doors and all new led lights in the kitchen and living room.

Apart from the biggest work surface revealing one of our walls is as straight as a not very straight thing (to be fair, nothing in our house is), the lights put up one hell of a fight.

I warned the sparky that there was a socking great transformer in the ceiling for the old halogen lights in the kitchen and probably the same in the living room (though that I had not seen myself). He assured me that was fine and he could replace circuit with minimal effort. Hmmmm. Got a text at lunch time Tuesday telling me all of my upstairs floors were up whilst he tried to locate said transformers!

Anyway, he found them and has now finished installing lovely new lights which should save me some dosh on electricity. However, the process revealed that whoever installed the old set up (our neighbour believes a pro sparky!) used "Industrial grade" kit which, in the kitchen at least, was starting to burn itself. Oh, and in the living room, had no earth.

Makes me wonder why the hell I bothered with any survey or mountain of paperwork at all when buying this place!

Anyway, happy with outcome, rant off.

Skyline2uk
See this? ~~~>(http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r774/Mitch_Kalnajs/download_zpsocgjbcbr.jpg) (http://s1366.photobucket.com/user/Mitch_Kalnajs/media/download_zpsocgjbcbr.jpg.html)   ..........That's my case, resting.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on July 30, 2015, 11:34:01 AM
 :laughabovepost:

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 30, 2015, 01:42:23 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on July 29, 2015, 09:33:58 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 29, 2015, 08:22:02 PM
At £79 per hour labour and an £85 door mechanism + VAT for the  :censored: Treasury my door is fixed but that's 2 locos!!!!!!!!
Couldn't you just replace it yourself  ???

The door was locked and the mechanism had disintegrated so there was no way I could even open the door to lift it off the hinges, let alone afford the cost of a new door with all the gubbins, Mike.
If I'd known what was involved in replacing just the mechanism I'd still have been stumped :dunce:

Quote from: daveg on July 30, 2015, 08:19:32 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 29, 2015, 08:22:02 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 27, 2015, 09:23:41 PM
Why is it that just when I've spent some dosh on a necessity (in this case a Western from Kernow :angel:) that just a few hours later I manage to break the lock on my front door so now I have to find a locksmith who will no doubt charge some exorbitant call out fee :veryangry:

At £79 per hour labour and an £85 door mechanism + VAT for the  :censored: Treasury my door is fixed but that's 2 locos!!!!!!!!
Looks like I'l be down Preston docks (again) for a few nights :laugh:

:laughabovepost:

No, Mick, No! Please don't lower the tone of the area (again)!  :D

Dave G

You've obviously never been to Preston Docks, Dave. Lower the tone of the area indeed :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on July 30, 2015, 01:53:43 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 30, 2015, 01:42:23 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on July 29, 2015, 09:33:58 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 29, 2015, 08:22:02 PM
At £79 per hour labour and an £85 door mechanism + VAT for the  :censored: Treasury my door is fixed but that's 2 locos!!!!!!!!
Couldn't you just replace it yourself  ???

The door was locked and the mechanism had disintegrated so there was no way I could even open the door to lift it off the hinges, let alone afford the cost of a new door with all the gubbins, Mike.
If I'd known what was involved in replacing just the mechanism I'd still have been stumped :dunce:

Quote from: daveg on July 30, 2015, 08:19:32 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 29, 2015, 08:22:02 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 27, 2015, 09:23:41 PM
Why is it that just when I've spent some dosh on a necessity (in this case a Western from Kernow :angel:) that just a few hours later I manage to break the lock on my front door so now I have to find a locksmith who will no doubt charge some exorbitant call out fee :veryangry:

At £79 per hour labour and an £85 door mechanism + VAT for the  :censored: Treasury my door is fixed but that's 2 locos!!!!!!!!
Looks like I'l be down Preston docks (again) for a few nights :laugh:

:laughabovepost:

No, Mick, No! Please don't lower the tone of the area (again)!  :D

Dave G

You've obviously never been to Preston Docks, Dave. Lower the tone of the area indeed :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
In need of a regular wage I spent about 5 years working in a double glazing and door manufacturing workshop.
even just fitting basic hinges and locks become a nightmare at times. The variety of hinges and especially door locks is vast and very complicated to set up and install properly
I personally don't think you were overcharged Im sorry to say
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 30, 2015, 01:58:35 PM
Quote from: jonclox on July 30, 2015, 01:53:43 PM

I personally don't think you were overcharged Im sorry to say

Jon - just to clarify, I don't think I was overcharged (especially as the engineer only gets 40% of the hourly rate, I was told) but I don't like these out of the blue expenses which result in having nothing to show for the outlay except a door that is now the same as it was last Saturday (not when I'm considering buying a Dapol Grange :D)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on July 30, 2015, 02:05:29 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 30, 2015, 01:42:23 PM
The door was locked and the mechanism had disintegrated so there was no way I could even open the door
Ah, bummer  :(  Explains why you had to get the guy out, all right ...

I had to do a couple of locks last year; fortunately, it was a choice  ...  The replacement was very straight-forwards, unlike the sounds of yours.

Reminds me ... I need to replace the other back door & the entire surrounds :(  Have put it off a long time (after doing a partial rebuild of it), but am hoping it can survive this winter coming as I just don't have the time to invest until Autumn  :(  And it'll be sod's law the weather heads bad then.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on July 30, 2015, 02:45:03 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 30, 2015, 01:58:35 PM
Quote from: jonclox on July 30, 2015, 01:53:43 PM

I personally don't think you were overcharged Im sorry to say

Jon - just to clarify, I don't think I was overcharged (especially as the engineer only gets 40% of the hourly rate, I was told) but I don't like these out of the blue expenses which result in having nothing to show for the outlay except a door that is now the same as it was last Saturday (not when I'm considering buying a Dapol Grange :D)
I quite understand  NPN .  Like  but all I was saying is that to my mind his costs etc etc were justifiable
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: outofgauge on July 31, 2015, 09:32:29 PM
 :censored:Just got home from a days graft as usual -good oh -the postmans brought my 'N'gauge journal -a bit of railway reading -a quick flick till bed time -looking good -then to the news letter -sales /wants ok nothing there for me ! Then I start to read the financial report from the agm -which I did go to the show with my oppo Mainline -but didnt stay for the meeting (boy do I now wish I had ) from what I can read looks like the ex vice president (and an MBE) to boot has been helping himself to money from the society along with running business within a business ( the second hand stock )  ! What the hell have I been paying my membership for -buy a bottle of wine for him once a year ??????? God who can you trust these days ???? When ive stopped chewing on my journal -emails are going to be sent -are the society pursuing the loses ? Whats every one elses views ??
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on July 31, 2015, 09:36:20 PM
I think shame is sufficient punishment.

Best regards,


Joe
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Zogbert Splod on July 31, 2015, 09:38:02 PM
Not a happy chappie!
Fish plate finger? Bah - that's for beginners and children... Try a bit of 'Dremel circular saw finger' then get back to me.

That's some flesh I'll never get back. Yeah, my own fault. Yeah, I'm embarrassed by what I did - stoopid! Yeah, it could have been a lot worse! But, holy bat poop, it smarts! That's an end to my layout work for tonight anyhow...

Gonna cus now,  pee, poo, belly, bum, drawers!
There, that actually feels a bit better.....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 31, 2015, 09:45:01 PM
 :oopssign: :ouch:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on July 31, 2015, 09:56:32 PM
Quote from: outofgauge on July 31, 2015, 09:32:29 PM
Then I start to read the financial report from the agm
We're over on the Magazine thread ...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: outofgauge on July 31, 2015, 10:02:26 PM
That would be ok normaly Joe - but not everybody in our world will find out -just the n gauge members ! :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: acko22 on August 02, 2015, 11:02:58 PM
Just been sniped on 4 items on Ebay!!!

Now that's life but by the same  :censored: he has gone after 3 of the things I wanted and then on a duplicate of the 150 I wanted he has put a snipe bid in for that too!!

All I wanted was a class 150 is that to much to ask!!  :(

Ahh well the only plus is hopefully I have ran him up a little for his troubles!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on August 02, 2015, 11:05:05 PM
what does sniped mean?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: acko22 on August 02, 2015, 11:19:59 PM
Quote from: paulprice on August 02, 2015, 11:05:05 PM
what does sniped mean?

Ok well I am sure I will be educated as to how exactly it works (there is some computer program out there that does it) But basically someone not bidding on an item till the last few seconds on an item, say 3 seconds so you have no chance of a counter bid.

On its own is someone does that on an item that life! But 3 items all ending within seconds of each other then they are using the "sniping" program and that just makes me rather upset!  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on August 02, 2015, 11:29:17 PM
Quote from: acko22 on August 02, 2015, 11:19:59 PM

Ok well I am sure I will be educated as to how exactly it works
Ok, well, I am sure we wouldnt dare now ! :laugh3:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: acko22 on August 02, 2015, 11:33:22 PM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on August 02, 2015, 11:29:17 PM
Quote from: acko22 on August 02, 2015, 11:19:59 PM

Ok well I am sure I will be educated as to how exactly it works
Ok, well, I am sure we wouldnt dare now ! :laugh3:

There's always one!  :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on August 02, 2015, 11:36:07 PM
Quote from: acko22 on August 02, 2015, 11:33:22 PM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on August 02, 2015, 11:29:17 PM
Quote from: acko22 on August 02, 2015, 11:19:59 PM

Ok well I am sure I will be educated as to how exactly it works
Ok, well, I am sure we wouldnt dare now ! :laugh3:

There's always one!  :P
You left the gate wide open.
but if you are really seeking after knowledge , , ,
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on August 02, 2015, 11:39:50 PM
Quote from: acko22 on August 02, 2015, 11:02:58 PM
Ahh well the only plus is hopefully I have ran him up a little for his troubles!
That's the thought which kept me motivated. I'm pretty sure I managed to manually outbid a sniping program once, mind.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on August 02, 2015, 11:47:24 PM
Do I spy "another one" ?

Acko there is no point in getting wound up about ebay ! Like the Big Bang, it happens, or did. :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: acko22 on August 02, 2015, 11:54:38 PM
It wound me up there and then. But now I am just thinking at least I didnt pay the £95 per model he did!! :bounce: Double what it was going for in the final ten seconds!!

Just means I have to find something else to treat myself too.......
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on August 02, 2015, 11:59:57 PM
Quote from: acko22 on August 02, 2015, 11:54:38 PM
Just means I have to find something else to treat myself too.......
:) :) excellent idea! ,
there now, all's well that ends well lol!

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on August 03, 2015, 12:02:12 AM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on August 02, 2015, 11:59:57 PMthere now, all's well that ends well lol!
Oh hang on,
sorry, I forgot,
this is supposed to be the angry thread, , ,
, , , let me see what I can do , , ummm, , ,
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: acko22 on August 03, 2015, 12:06:57 AM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on August 03, 2015, 12:02:12 AM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on August 02, 2015, 11:59:57 PMthere now, all's well that ends well lol!
Oh hang on,
sorry, I forgot,
this is supposed to be the angry thread, , ,
, , , let me see what I can do , , ummm, , ,

Lol to make me angry well snipe me on my next bid!! :worried:
Apart from that I will find another treat although the other bloke may be a little angry just short of £300 for models he was hoping to snipe for a lot less!  ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on August 03, 2015, 12:23:23 AM
Quote from: acko22 on August 03, 2015, 12:06:57 AM

Lol to make me angry well snipe me on my next bid!! :worried:
:laughabovepost:
What makes me really really angry about ebay is , ,
how everyone finds the time to prowl ebay finding all these putative(?) bargains
it's all beyond me how y'all manage it  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: acko22 on August 03, 2015, 12:29:44 AM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on August 03, 2015, 12:23:23 AM
Quote from: acko22 on August 03, 2015, 12:06:57 AM

Lol to make me angry well snipe me on my next bid!! :worried:
:laughabovepost:
What makes me really really angry about ebay is , ,
how everyone finds the time to prowl ebay finding all these putative(?) bargains
it's all beyond me how y'all manage it  :)

Tell me about it! I never get a bargain I always get sniped if I find something worth bidding on!  ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on August 03, 2015, 12:38:06 AM
Quote from: acko22 on August 03, 2015, 12:29:44 AM
Tell me about it! I never get a bargain I always get sniped if I find something worth bidding on!  ???
:)
I think we just entered a time warp, or a BBC repeat  :'(

Thanks for the natter, or crack if y'norf of the border, but I think my pumpkin is about to arrive, , ,
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on August 03, 2015, 01:54:06 AM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on August 03, 2015, 12:23:23 AM
Quote from: acko22 on August 03, 2015, 12:06:57 AM

Lol to make me angry well snipe me on my next bid!! :worried:
:laughabovepost:
What makes me really really angry about ebay is , ,
how everyone finds the time to prowl ebay finding all these putative(?) bargains
it's all beyond me how y'all manage it  :)
Now that the baby is sleeping through the night, my Ebay hunting days are effectively over.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NinOz on August 03, 2015, 02:59:34 AM
Quote from: railsquid on August 03, 2015, 01:54:06 AM
Now that the baby is sleeping through the night, my Ebay hunting days are effectively over.
Easily fixed.
Just take about a year though. :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on August 03, 2015, 07:09:02 AM
Quote from: NinOz on August 03, 2015, 02:59:34 AM
Quote from: railsquid on August 03, 2015, 01:54:06 AM
Now that the baby is sleeping through the night, my Ebay hunting days are effectively over.
Easily fixed.
Just take about a year though. :D

Or you could just start waking up yourself for a bottle or nappy change?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ten0G on August 03, 2015, 08:08:14 AM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on August 03, 2015, 12:23:23 AM

What makes me really really angry about ebay is , ,
how everyone finds the time to prowl ebay finding all these putative(?) bargains
it's all beyond me how y'all manage it  :)

At present, I try to go through the new items for Farish & Dapol daily just to see what I may've missed in previous years in the online shops. 

No purchases yet though, and unlikely to buy anything at the price I'd have to pay for delivery here.  :o 

Also get a laugh out of some listings like the Farish Cornflat triple pack.  They haven't been re-listed recently so the harvesting season must be over.  :laugh:

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on August 03, 2015, 10:46:19 AM
 :veryangry: :censored: Its always the same when your in a hurry to post something off. The boxes you have are either just a fraction to small or vastly oversized.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on August 06, 2015, 03:48:09 PM
  :'( Its my fault you realise. There we were sitting downstairs having a cuppa like you do mid afternoon when theres a crashed and something upstairs (?) obviously fell over and scared us all.
Now the lounge (cuppa room)  is directly below the railway room  :-[
I got extremely glared at and unkind names given to me  >:(
I came directly upstairs and checked out the layout etc.
[/It wasn't my fault b] everything looked as it should.
SWMBO obeyd went outside to have a look round out there.
She found a couple of handful of dried out mortar which she had picked up off the neighbouring side road
I now have the pleasure of phoning round looking for a decent handyman to sort it out along with a few other jobs on the ever-growing 'roundtoit list.......... and paying for it all  :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on August 06, 2015, 04:04:46 PM
So what fell off  ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on August 06, 2015, 04:48:30 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on August 06, 2015, 04:04:46 PM
So what fell off  ???
Mortar from round the base of the chimney pot  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 06, 2015, 09:38:29 PM
Who would fire a mortar at your chimney, Jon? :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on August 07, 2015, 03:53:44 AM
A mortician?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on August 09, 2015, 01:44:44 AM
I think there is mortar this than Jon is letting on  :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Zogbert Splod on August 10, 2015, 01:17:04 PM
In the absence of a 'mildly annoyed thread' I'll post this here...
Like most do, our small, local supermarket uses lighting with a colour cast to make fruit and vegetables look better. Unfortunately the tiny office supplies section is just there too. The consequence of that being that the pack of 'white' A5 card that I bought today turns out to be lemon yellow under my daylight bulb.  Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr and other expressions of that nature......
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 10, 2015, 04:24:24 PM
Maybe you could make a lemon entry, my dear Watson :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on August 10, 2015, 10:39:28 PM
Just put a line of glue across the top of each page and hey presto, A5 post-it notes! Made of card.



I'm not helping am I?  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on August 10, 2015, 10:48:19 PM
Maybe you could make a lemon entry, my dear Watson

Brilliant!  :laughabovepost: ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on August 10, 2015, 10:59:05 PM
I have just filled in an online form. Under 'Sex' it asks if I am Male or Female - what happens if I am a Hermaphrodite  ??? (I'm not by the way  :no:). But the one thing that does annoy me on forms  :veryangry: is when the form asks for 'Nationality' - can I find a box for 'English' ? Can I  :censored:. I can be 'United Kingdom' but not 'English' - I was born in England, (well, Yorkshire  :thumbsup: and proud of it!).  :veryangry: I have seen forms that allow you to put 'Scottish' or 'Welsh' but not 'English'!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on August 11, 2015, 01:47:25 AM
Unless there's an English nation state, it's highly unlikely you could describe nationality as "English". What does your passport say?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on August 11, 2015, 05:05:18 AM
Quote from: railsquid on August 11, 2015, 01:47:25 AM
Unless there's an English nation state, it's highly unlikely you could describe nationality as "English". What does your passport say?

I don't want to start 'splitting hairs', but if a man is from France, he is described as 'French', if he is from Wales, he is 'Welsh' - I am from England.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on August 11, 2015, 05:18:57 AM
Quote from: railsquid on August 11, 2015, 01:47:25 AM
Unless there's an English nation state, it's highly unlikely you could describe nationality as "English". What does your passport say?

Out of interest, I have just looked at an online dictionary and I quote -

adjective
of, relating to, or characteristic of England or its inhabitants, institutions, etc.

noun
the people of England collectively, especially as distinguished from the Scots, Welsh, and Irish. (my italics).

As I said in my OP, I consider myself to be 'English'  ;). David.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on August 11, 2015, 05:21:43 AM
Either use the 'Other' box (if there is one) and write "English" or alternatively don't tick any boxes and write 'English' on the form ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on August 11, 2015, 08:11:35 AM
In olden days Bavaria was a kingdom and Texas was a republic I think so you could have
these as nationalities, ditto England , Scotland and Ireland , not sure about Wales.
I'm Scottish and British like someone is Texan and American. If you get a silly form
put down Klingon or Venusian to annoy some bureaucrat.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 11, 2015, 11:10:59 AM
If you're an English football supporter don't forget to spell it "Engerland"
If you're an English cricket supporter just spell it "Rooooooot" :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 11, 2015, 11:38:34 AM
Looks like my Yahoo mail account has been hacked again - that's twice in 2 weeks.
Humble apologies to anyone who has received a spurious mail from me.
I run AVG and the free version of Malwarebytes and have a password containing at least 7 letters and 3 numbers but still some low life with no life seems to be having great fun :censored:
Would AVG/Malwarebytes detect a key stroke logger? :help:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on August 11, 2015, 11:54:14 AM
Surely email address spoofing is more likely ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on August 11, 2015, 02:19:26 PM
Not sure what the diff is between hacking and spoofing but it looks like I've been hacked recently and a few of my pals got weird emails from 'me'.

I received one from me again this morning inviting an email assignation of the dubious kind.

As I marked the incoming as spam, email provider 'is investigating further'.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.  :veryangry:

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on August 11, 2015, 02:39:57 PM
Quote from: daveg on August 11, 2015, 02:19:26 PM
Not sure what the diff is between hacking and spoofing
"Hacked" is they've gotten your password (maybe by a brute force attack) & are using your actual account (is there lots of crap in your 'sent' box ?).

"Spoofing" is where they use your email name as the source, because mail servers don't do any checks that the stated sender address is actually on the mail server being used ... so that a Yahoo email actually comes from Yahoo, for example.

Most reports of "I've been hacked !" are actually spoofs ...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on August 11, 2015, 02:58:28 PM
Thanks Mike

Odd that only a selection of mates got that weird email but I did advise all on my contacts list of my suspicion. I wonder if I'm now classified as bad to some and default to their spam folder?

I try and keep the In and Sent boxes tidy and have folders for a lot of my contacts. No rubbish spotted in the sent folder Trash and spam folders are regularly checked and emptied.

Some time back I got an email from my dad who died some 2 years before but this is the first time I have had an email from me that I didn't send!  :confused2:

Dave G

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 11, 2015, 03:04:32 PM
Yeah - it would seem I've also been sending myself mails :doh:
Like Dave, I keep everything in folders and have no odd sent mails.
I'm gonna copy all my contacts into a separate file (Word) and then delete them from my Yahoo Mail in the hope it stops folks getting rubbish mails. It'll be a PITA but worth it methinks.
Thanks to those who've let me know I've been 'done over' :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on August 11, 2015, 03:13:03 PM
Quote from: daveg on August 11, 2015, 02:58:28 PM
Odd that only a selection of mates got that weird email
Could be one of them has been hacked or otherwise had the address book ripped off, hence the limited distribution ?  They may see their addresses being used in future spams ...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on August 11, 2015, 03:14:59 PM
Quote from: daveg on August 11, 2015, 02:58:28 PM
Thanks Mike

Odd that only a selection of mates got that weird email but I did advise all on my contacts list of my suspicion. I wonder if I'm now classified as bad to some and default to their spam folder?

I try and keep the In and Sent boxes tidy and have folders for a lot of my contacts. No rubbish spotted in the sent folder Trash and spam folders are regularly checked and emptied.

Some time back I got an email from my dad who died some 2 years before but this is the first time I have had an email from me that I didn't send!  :confused2:

Dave G

good to hear there is free Wi-Fi in heaven, if I get to go there I'll be able to keep up with this forum  :smiley-laughing:

with my luck I'll go to the other place, and it will only have BT ....... 'can I be helping you'

seriously, must have been a hell of a shock for you. hope it didn't cause too much trauma.

regards

alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Yet_Another on August 11, 2015, 03:16:53 PM
Is there something that they all have in common? eg. if only mates from a particular forum are getting messages, it may be that email addresses have been harvested from that forum.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 11, 2015, 03:42:33 PM
The selection of the contacts for spam mails being sent by 'me' seems to be random from my list of relatives, friends, companies etc I deal with, Tony. It's not as if all the contacts are used every time  :confused1:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on August 11, 2015, 04:13:29 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 11, 2015, 03:42:33 PM
The selection of the contacts for spam mails being sent by 'me' seems to be random from my list of relatives, friends, companies etc I deal with, Tony. It's not as if all the contacts are used every time  :confused1:

Ditto. Some are rarely used and a few others more frequently.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on August 11, 2015, 08:11:02 PM
Quote from: railsquid on August 11, 2015, 01:47:25 AM
Unless there's an English nation state, it's highly unlikely you could describe nationality as "English". What does your passport say?

Just checked my passport - it states that I am a "British Citizen"! I'll shut up now.  :) David.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on August 11, 2015, 08:22:24 PM
One of my business twitter accounts got hacked  :veryangry:- luckily I caught it in time - and my password contained a number of non-alphanumeric characters  :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on August 11, 2015, 08:30:10 PM
Sounds like a key logger jobby.   :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 11, 2015, 09:56:39 PM
Quote from: Caz on August 11, 2015, 08:30:10 PM
Sounds like a key logger jobby.   :worried:

Being a computer numpty (amongst other things) is there any way I can counteract that or guard against it please?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on August 11, 2015, 11:55:17 PM
I do not we can help you with being a numpty Mick,he..he.. but do not use the same password for lots of sites especially if they contain important information. I usually have save passwords and History turned off on my browser and if you are worried about such things use a good anti virus scanner and keep it updated. The only trouble with virus scanners is they slow your computer down, but that is the price you pay for security.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on August 12, 2015, 08:57:45 AM
As Chris says, if you're a numpty if you want to avoid key loggers, you need to have a decent A/V product (I use Avast @ home, works lappie uses McAfee I think - not a fan of that, but I avoid Norton like the plague these days !); a decent anti-malware (I have SpyBot & Defender); don't allow password caching; use unique passwords to sites; use strong passwords that can't be cracked using a dictionary attack, at least 8 characters mixing upper-case, lower-case, numbers and special characters (the latter where possible - some systems refuse them  ???); only install things you absolutely trust; avoid dodgy websites.  What should be the usual things ...

Make sure you run scans relatively regularly; weekly is good.  No need to be present either; fire off before you head out for the day, or overnight when you're in bed.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on August 12, 2015, 09:57:19 AM
Quote from: MikeDunn on August 12, 2015, 08:57:45 AM
fire off . . . overnight when you're in bed.

That's a mental image I can do without  :worried:


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on August 12, 2015, 10:14:10 AM
Quote from: Sprintex on August 12, 2015, 09:57:19 AM
That's a mental image I can do without  :worried:
... says the man who gave us nightmares (see what I did there  :P) with the image on the left ... !!!
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/55/thumb_6759.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=6759)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on August 12, 2015, 10:20:46 AM
Touche :laughabovepost:


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on August 12, 2015, 01:17:32 PM
Help?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on August 12, 2015, 07:13:21 PM
Whats a key logger?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on August 12, 2015, 07:16:04 PM
It's a piece of malware that records key strokes you make on the keyboard and can report back to the perpetrator, thereby supplying them with your passwords ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on August 12, 2015, 08:10:41 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on August 12, 2015, 07:16:04 PM
It's a piece of malware that records key strokes you make on the keyboard and can report back to the perpetrator, thereby supplying them with your passwords ;)


Paul

Thanks Paul, but if it does that what difference does making your password so complicated make?

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on August 12, 2015, 08:45:13 PM
It doesn't make any difference if you have a key-logger program present. The idea behind making your passwords complicated is to make them difficult for a hacker to guess.


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 12, 2015, 10:51:49 PM
Key loggers aren't that common. You have to visit a dodgy site and let it install some software. Most decent virus checkers will examine any files downloaded and quarantine them if they are dodgy. You should avoid opening attachments on unsolicited mail for the same reason.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tom U on August 13, 2015, 06:34:58 AM
I have been told that using an on-screen keyboard will prevent keyloggers from recording your input.  Don't know if that is true, but I always use the on-screen keyboard when inputting important data such as bank login etc.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on August 13, 2015, 07:02:53 AM
Quote from: Malc on August 12, 2015, 10:51:49 PM
Key loggers aren't that common. You have to visit a dodgy site and let it install some software.

Not always dodgy websites ;) I once visited a website for a good quality music shop to buy some guitar strings for my bro' in law. As soon as the website loaded my AV went mad blocking all sorts of files including various 'downloaders'. I contacted the shop by phone and advised them, seems their site had been hacked unbeknown to them.

This is why I don't mind paying a reasonable fee for a GOOD reliable Internet Security Suite :)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 13, 2015, 08:30:09 AM
Quote from: Sprintex on August 13, 2015, 07:02:53 AM
Quote from: Malc on August 12, 2015, 10:51:49 PM
Key loggers aren't that common. You have to visit a dodgy site and let it install some software.

Not always dodgy websites ;) I once visited a website for a good quality music shop to buy some guitar strings for my bro' in law. As soon as the website loaded my AV went mad blocking all sorts of files including various 'downloaders'. I contacted the shop by phone and advised them, seems their site had been hacked unbeknown to them.

This is why I don't mind paying a reasonable fee for a GOOD reliable Internet Security Suite :)


Paul
Very true Paul. You just don't know what you are going to come across out there. Even the best sites can get hacked. A GOOD internet security suite is worth it's weight in gold.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 13, 2015, 12:25:55 PM
To the best of my knowledge I don't visit any 'dodgy' sites and only download anything I'm fairly positive isn't harmful. My AVG has picked nothing up. Yesterday I ran full computer sweeps on both AVG and Malwarebytes and nothing was detected, yet I have been hacked twice in the last 2 weeks :veryangry2: :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on August 13, 2015, 01:04:00 PM
Can our 'puter gurus advise if this could be via someone else's email that we were copied in on?

Sort of 'cross-infection'?   :worried:

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 13, 2015, 02:52:19 PM
It is possible that someone has picked up a mail you sent out with a large number of ccs on. If I send on a funny, I use BCC with no addressee. That way, no one gets spammed.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 13, 2015, 04:13:10 PM
Quote from: Malc on August 13, 2015, 02:52:19 PM
It is possible that someone has picked up a mail you sent out with a large number of ccs on. If I send on a funny, I use BCC with no addressee. That way, no one gets spammed.

I only use BCC but do people who send me mails do that :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on August 13, 2015, 04:17:42 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 13, 2015, 04:13:10 PM
Quote from: Malc on August 13, 2015, 02:52:19 PM
It is possible that someone has picked up a mail you sent out with a large number of ccs on. If I send on a funny, I use BCC with no addressee. That way, no one gets spammed.

I only use BCC but do people who send me mails do that :uneasy:
Took me 15 years to train my parents to use BCC for forwarding "funnies" (which were funny 15 years ago maybe...).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 13, 2015, 08:41:28 PM
I'm still working on that with my Mum, Squiddy. I seem to get reams and reams of her friends' mail addresses ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on August 13, 2015, 09:45:00 PM
Quote from: Tom U on August 13, 2015, 06:34:58 AM
I have been told that using an on-screen keyboard will prevent keyloggers from recording your input.  Don't know if that is true, but I always use the on-screen keyboard when inputting important data such as bank login etc.

Presumably that would work because, as long as you used the mouse to click on the letters, you are not using any keys. I like the idea of using the on screen keyboard for inputting important data though.  :) David.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on August 13, 2015, 11:05:16 PM
Whats BCC?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on August 14, 2015, 06:57:38 AM
Quote from: steve836 on August 13, 2015, 11:05:16 PM
Whats BCC?

Originally 'Blind Carbon Copy' .i.e. copy to another but name not shown/listed.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on August 14, 2015, 07:15:13 AM
OK thanks. Will have to get my computer guru to teach me how! Not that I forward funnies or anything else very often.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on August 14, 2015, 06:29:15 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on August 13, 2015, 09:45:00 PM
Quote from: Tom U on August 13, 2015, 06:34:58 AM
I have been told that using an on-screen keyboard will prevent keyloggers from recording your input.  Don't know if that is true, but I always use the on-screen keyboard when inputting important data such as bank login etc.

Presumably that would work because, as long as you used the mouse to click on the letters, you are not using any keys. I like the idea of using the on screen keyboard for inputting important data though.  :) David.

Using an on screen keyboard used to work but the key logger guys overcame it by grabbing screen shots as you typed, the good guys are always one step behind that's why you need to be on your guard, security software can only do so much.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on August 14, 2015, 08:21:02 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on August 13, 2015, 07:02:53 AM
Quote from: Malc on August 12, 2015, 10:51:49 PM
Key loggers aren't that common. You have to visit a dodgy site and let it install some software.

Not always dodgy websites ;) I once visited a website for a good quality music shop to buy some guitar strings for my bro' in law. As soon as the website loaded my AV went mad blocking all sorts of files including various 'downloaders'. I contacted the shop by phone and advised them, seems their site had been hacked unbeknown to them.

This is why I don't mind paying a reasonable fee for a GOOD reliable Internet Security Suite :)


Paul

Let that be a lesson to you. Never search for a replacement G-string online  :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on August 14, 2015, 08:34:41 PM
Badum 'tish "I thang yoooo" ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: kmitchell on August 14, 2015, 10:25:08 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on August 14, 2015, 08:21:02 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on August 13, 2015, 07:02:53 AM
Quote from: Malc on August 12, 2015, 10:51:49 PM
Key loggers aren't that common. You have to visit a dodgy site and let it install some software.

Not always dodgy websites ;) I once visited a website for a good quality music shop to buy some guitar strings for my bro' in law. As soon as the website loaded my AV went mad blocking all sorts of files including various 'downloaders'. I contacted the shop by phone and advised them, seems their site had been hacked unbeknown to them.

This is why I don't mind paying a reasonable fee for a GOOD reliable Internet Security Suite :)


Paul

Let that be a lesson to you. Never search for a replacement G-string online  :(
Nicely put sir, and now I think i will go and read some other topics. Ken :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on August 14, 2015, 11:22:04 PM
Bloody weather playing havoc with my health again. Back on the steroids and antibiotics. Trying to avoid the Tramadol  :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on August 15, 2015, 01:06:58 AM
Quote from: Oldman on August 14, 2015, 11:22:04 PM
Trying to avoid the Tramadol  :censored:

Keep at it fella! It's not easy avoiding it as it really helps (it did me anyway) but the after effects or trying to get off it again make it worth trying hard not to take it. I know I'll never take it again for any length of time although I have taken the odd one now and again like when I fell down a badger hole the other day but that's another story  :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on August 15, 2015, 10:03:04 AM
Quote from: Oldman on August 14, 2015, 11:22:04 PM
Bloody weather playing havoc with my health again. Back on the steroids and antibiotics. Trying to avoid the Tramadol  :censored:
I`m fighting the desperate urge to break into the steroids and  antibiotics myself. I feel that once I break into them to often they will become less effective and closer to habit  dependency. GP phone appointment on Thursday so will discuss it with her before delving into my stock of both
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 18, 2015, 09:48:24 PM
For those not in the know I am but one of 300,000 homes in the North west of England who can use their tap water for nothing but bathing and doing laundry due to a cryptosporidium infection at the water plant in Preston. We have been told to boil all water for drinking, food preparation, cleaning of teeth and washing of dishes/cutlery but anyone with any sense is buying bottled water for anything going into a mouth due to the bad taste the current boiled water leaves behind. I happen to live alone but I dread to think what straits the people with young children are in. However, as we all know,  :poop: happens.
What I find appalling is the lack of communication from United Utilities who, in some cases but certainly not all, were quick to advise the problem but haven't kept the folks involved up to date with progress in eradicating the problem. For the first week there were updates on teletext and the local BBC news but all I've seen recently is a quick comment on ITV tonight about how the lack of communication is 'wearing a bit thin' ::) We are in our second week now and, to be honest, it's a PITA :veryangry2: :veryangry2: :veryangry2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 18, 2015, 10:34:44 PM
When I was working in Oslo, they had the same problem with the water supply. Unfortunately, I don't speak Norwegian, so never watched the news and missed all the warnings. It was about 2 days before someone at work told me about it. Fortunately, I didn't suffer any ill effects. Must have been the quantities of Aquavit and beer I was drinking.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on August 18, 2015, 10:42:03 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 18, 2015, 09:48:24 PM
use their tap water for nothing but bathing and doing laundry due to a cryptosporidium infection
Talking about water, this is one thing that makes me angry -
I have lived in Ireland for about 17 years and for a lot of that time, one part or another of Ireland has been under a 'boil water' notice. Some of this is down to poor management and the antiquated system. Last year, it was decided that houseowners will have to start paying a water charge - there is uproar in some parts of the country. As people have pointed out to me, my water comes from my own well and, at the other end of the scale, it goes into a septic tank, so I do not have to pay the water charge. But, as I reply to them, I have to buy salt for the filter, I use electricity to pump the water into the house, I pay for regular servicing of the equipment and I pay for the septic tank emptying - so I have been paying water charges for the 15 and a bit years I have lived in my house. I honestly can not see what the problem is, it has been stated that the water charge is for updating the system and getting the water to peoples houses. You would not go into Tesco, (other supermarkets are available  :)) and deduct a few pence from the bill as you objected to paying for the goods being transported to the shop in a new lorry.
Okay, rant over. David.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on August 19, 2015, 11:40:07 PM
Well what a day today i am writing this from a hospital bed, I had to ring 999 from work for myself unable to explain but it frightened the life out of me, the ambulence and hospital staff are fantastic and caring.

Just so mad that this has happened to me, just hope I am not in hospital to long.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on August 20, 2015, 01:41:25 AM
Quote from: Geoff on August 19, 2015, 11:40:07 PM
unable to explain but it frightened the life out of me, the ambulence and hospital staff are fantastic and caring.
,
just hope I am not in hospital to long.
Oh dear, yes, very frightening the suddeness of this sort of 999 thing,
especially (in my case) should one call or not call 999, one being British one does not want to make a fuss !!! but after the event one is glad that one did and the system kicks into gear and one is still here to comment ! !
As you say the speed and care of the NHS staff etc  is great and it makes me so mad to see the nay-sayers and talking-heads in the media going-on about the NHS

best wishes,
and, we also, hope you are not there too long ! (espesially as you are prob. only getting 1/2hr sleep now and again between 10pm and 4am, then bliss for a couplahours till they wake you for rounds at 6am !!! what a regime :) )


Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on August 20, 2015, 02:06:07 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 18, 2015, 09:48:24 PMdue to the bad taste the current boiled water leaves behind.
? what are you boiling it in ! ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on August 20, 2015, 08:19:41 AM
Wishing you all the best,Geoff, and a speedy recovery!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on August 20, 2015, 08:55:07 AM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on August 20, 2015, 02:06:07 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 18, 2015, 09:48:24 PMdue to the bad taste the current boiled water leaves behind.
? what are you boiling it in ! ?
Probably a pan - the issue seems to be the gunk they've put into the water to kill the microbes ...

Reminds me, must batch up with bro-in-law, he's in Mick's neck of the woods ...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 20, 2015, 10:33:44 AM
So sorry to hear of your troubles, Geoff, and hope you recover very quickly.

Quote from: MalcolmAL on August 20, 2015, 02:06:07 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 18, 2015, 09:48:24 PMdue to the bad taste the current boiled water leaves behind.
? what are you boiling it in ! ?

A perfectly normal electric kettle, Malcolm, but there is a bad 'metallic' tang to it which wasn't there before the bug occurred. ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on August 20, 2015, 10:41:47 AM
It'll take time for the treatment to finish going through the system, Mick  :worried:  Seems to be a slower process though than expected  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 20, 2015, 10:50:20 AM
Quote from: MikeDunn on August 20, 2015, 10:41:47 AM
It'll take time for the treatment to finish going through the system, Mick  :worried:  Seems to be a slower process though than expected  :hmmm:

As long as it's not my system, Mike :no: :worried:
They've now installed ultra violet 'zappers' in the pipework to hasten the demise of the cryptosporidium but, as of today, the instruction is still to boil water ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on August 20, 2015, 11:06:40 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 20, 2015, 10:33:44 AM
A perfectly normal electric kettle, Malcolm, but there is a bad 'metallic' tang to it which wasn't there before the bug occurred. ???
Ah not ye oldie ancient northwestern urn then , you mean electric has got that far north, well well  :laugh:
Have they said how long you should boil it for ?
The usual method is a gentle rolling boil for at least a minute to kill it.
Not achieved in a kettle !
If they have recently changed the chlorination to chloramine (the bane of tropical fish keepers!!) you may notice a change of taste and a longer boil will help to breakdown the more persistent chloramine.
Just a few random thoughts.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 20, 2015, 11:27:29 AM
It's costing me a small fortune in hamster food to keep the little buggers running in their wheel to provide enough power for the kettle, Malcolm. That really does constitute a slow boil.
I just hope they take this into account when/if any compensation is considered :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on August 20, 2015, 11:37:56 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 20, 2015, 11:27:29 AM
fortune in hamster food
:laughabovepost:
hubble bubble toil and trouble
fire burn and cauldron bubble,,,
vision of npn in pointy hat with giant urn on a blasted heath.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 20, 2015, 12:41:23 PM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on August 20, 2015, 11:37:56 AM

vision of npn in pointy hat with giant urn on a blasted heath.

Drat - I've been spotted. Please don't grass me to the law as my current ASBO is still in force :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on August 20, 2015, 06:15:15 PM
Hope it is not too serious and you are back modelling real soon.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on August 21, 2015, 12:52:38 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 20, 2015, 12:41:23 PM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on August 20, 2015, 11:37:56 AM

vision of npn in pointy hat with giant urn on a blasted heath.

Drat - I've been spotted. Please don't grass me to the law as my current ASBO is still in force :worried:
:)
I 'spect you've heard the classic Linda Smith : "Dont knock the ASBO, it's the only qualification some kids will get "
I know you are a kid at heart ! ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on August 21, 2015, 02:32:50 PM


:veryangry: :censored: :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry: :censored:

Will people stop posting about bargains they've spotted this close to TINGS.

DON'T YOU REALISE I HAVE TO SAVE MONEY FOR TINGS AND AFTER TINGS THE BARGAINS WILL HAVE GONE

So stop it

:veryangry: :censored: :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry: :censored:






Rant over, have a good day

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Cheers

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on August 21, 2015, 05:26:40 PM
Duly noted, Neal!

After moving so much closer to Leamington Spa, I'm still not sure I'll be going to TINGS.

I'd like to but unsure if the crowds will allow me to see and enjoy the layouts.

I wouldn't be buying anything. I have a lot of stuff bought before I moved that has been in boxes for the last 12-18 months I'd land up duplicating even more than I have done already!

My pre-orders plus spontaneous buys, such as the Grange, have taken care of the budget until 2016 so sensible head on (he lies, of course!  :-X).

However, It would be great to meet some NGF folk and perhaps that would be the best reason to go. Have I somehow missed the rendezvous posts for this year?

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on August 21, 2015, 05:53:55 PM
If you want to avoid the crowds go on sunday :thumbsup:


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on August 22, 2015, 03:48:17 PM
Have now filled 3 green bins (large ones !) with  :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry: Canadian Balsam ... hate the damn stuff !!!

OTOH, I think that's the last of this years growth  :thumbsup:  Just need to inspect that area of the garden several times a year for the next 4 years to make sure I get any remnants from seeds  :thumbsdown:  Let a neighbour into that part over last winter to put up a fence, seems he disturbed a bunch of :censored: dormant seeds while he was at it ...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on August 22, 2015, 06:56:48 PM
Sounds like something you took for a soar throat.......
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on August 22, 2015, 07:23:06 PM
Canada Balsam was ( is?) long used by microscopists in preparing their slides,
You could be on to a lucrative side-line.
Has this terrorist botanical got a binomial ?

Quote from: Agrippa on August 22, 2015, 06:56:48 PM
Sounds like something you took for a soar throat.......
Who is flying kites ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 22, 2015, 09:11:29 PM
Could be worse. In this area we have the Return of the Giant Hogweed (passing nod to Genesis) which can wreak terrible skin complaints if brushed against :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on August 22, 2015, 09:52:02 PM
My current local grrrr, one of the local farmers seems to decide every fine weekend ( with a comfortable breeze) to go out in his fields and spray liquid effluent that then leaves it odour all weekend. :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on August 22, 2015, 10:08:35 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 22, 2015, 09:11:29 PM
Could be worse. In this area we have the Return of the Giant Hogweed (passing nod to Genesis) which can wreak terrible skin complaints if brushed against :o
oh yes, a bit of a scourge,
apparently it is a (distant ?) relative to/of the carrot, so finding a natural (introduced) antagonist could be frought with danger :(

Genesis ? > save me a google ??
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on August 22, 2015, 10:56:51 PM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on August 22, 2015, 07:23:06 PM
Has this terrorist botanical got a binomial ?
á la Linnaeus ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on August 23, 2015, 06:40:45 AM
Still in hospital and they have put me on iron tablets to ger my blood count up but I am having side effects with them, I just hope they have not had the opposite effect and I can get home later today.

Its been a stressful 4 days.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ozzie Bill. on August 23, 2015, 08:42:28 AM
Good luck to you Geoff and hope you get home soon. Cheers, Bill.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on August 23, 2015, 11:42:01 AM
 :doh: 48+ hours struggling to install the all new/swimiing , dancing Windows 10 has left me frazzled and somewhat bemused with all its new settings and fiddly bits
Ive lost all my passwords and it just taken me an age to get back in (if in fact I have) So I'm off to re-password everthing :worried: :dunce:
CYA next week  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 23, 2015, 11:42:46 AM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on August 22, 2015, 10:08:35 PM

Genesis ? > save me a google ??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTuJQL8GBqY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTuJQL8GBqY)

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 23, 2015, 11:44:07 AM
Quote from: Geoff on August 23, 2015, 06:40:45 AM
Still in hospital and they have put me on iron tablets to ger my blood count up but I am having side effects with them, I just hope they have not had the opposite effect and I can get home later today.

Its been a stressful 4 days.

Sorry to hear that, Geoff, and hope you're back home very soon.
If you're on iron tablets don't go near an MRI scanner :worried: ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 23, 2015, 11:46:24 AM
Get well soon, Geoff. I was put on iron tablets once and they set like concrete in my lower digestive tract. Didn't go for nearly a week.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 23, 2015, 11:58:39 AM
Quote from: Malc on August 23, 2015, 11:46:24 AM
Get well soon, Geoff. I was put on iron tablets once and they set like concrete in my lower digestive tract. Didn't go for nearly a week.

I dread to think of the shrapnel when you did go, Malc :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on August 23, 2015, 12:03:04 PM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on August 22, 2015, 07:23:06 PM
Canada Balsam was ( is?) long used by microscopists in preparing their slides,
Doh, where the  :censored: was my mind yesterday ... apologies to Canada, it's Himalayan Balsam !  :smackedface:
https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile?pid=480 (https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile?pid=480)

Given I'm high up on a hill, I can't understand how it got here  :confused1:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 23, 2015, 12:08:08 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on August 23, 2015, 12:03:04 PM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on August 22, 2015, 07:23:06 PM
Canada Balsam was ( is?) long used by microscopists in preparing their slides,
Doh, where the  :censored: was my mind yesterday ... apologies to Canada, it's Himalayan Balsam !  :smackedface:
https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile?pid=480 (https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile?pid=480)

Given I'm high up on a hill, I can't understand how it got here  :confused1:

Wot - your mind?  :confused2: :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on August 23, 2015, 12:13:18 PM
 :smackedface:

Left myself wide open for that one ...  :whiteflag:  :dighole:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on August 23, 2015, 12:27:11 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 23, 2015, 12:08:08 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on August 23, 2015, 12:03:04 PMit's Himalayan
Given I'm high up on a hill,
Wot - your mind?  :confused2: :P
:laughabovepost:
You beat me to it ! My version was going to be :-
High in Kathmandu ? taking time out :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on August 23, 2015, 12:52:27 PM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on August 23, 2015, 12:27:11 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 23, 2015, 12:08:08 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on August 23, 2015, 12:03:04 PMit's Himalayan
Given I'm high up on a hill,
Wot - your mind?  :confused2: :P
:laughabovepost:
You beat me to it ! My version was going to be :-
High in Kathmandu ? taking time out :)

I'm just jealous that Mike is up on a hill, getting high  :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on August 23, 2015, 01:13:01 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on August 22, 2015, 03:48:17 PM
Just need to inspect that area of the garden several times a year for the next 4 years to make sure I get any remnants from seeds 
It may not be as bad as that, the RHS link says
"the seeds, which can remain viable for two years"

But anyway, point of order, one is supposed to weedkill or pull it, not smoke it out Mike , , , , ducks&runs.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on August 23, 2015, 02:51:27 PM
Just got home but now I am an out patient so happy to be home thanks very much folks for all the kind regards.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 23, 2015, 03:12:02 PM
Good to hear that, Geoff, as no matter which NHS hospital you are in there's no dignity :unimpressed:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: REGP on August 23, 2015, 04:06:04 PM
Glad to hear you are out Geoff, your now in the best place as recovery seems to speed up once you are home.

Ray
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on August 23, 2015, 04:31:18 PM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on August 23, 2015, 01:13:01 PM
It may not be as bad as that, the RHS link says
"the seeds, which can remain viable for two years"

But anyway, point of order, one is supposed to weedkill or pull it, not smoke it out Mike , , , , ducks&runs.
::)

It's very shallow-rooted, so they were all pulled up; unsure how safe they are though, as SWMBO has a nasty mark on her arm where one got her  ???

As to seed longevity, I'll err on the side of caution.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on August 23, 2015, 04:43:22 PM
Good to learn you're home, Geoff.

Take it easy - hope you feel better very soon.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on August 24, 2015, 10:45:06 AM
Quote from: Geoff on August 23, 2015, 02:51:27 PM
Just got home but now I am an out patient so happy to be home thanks very much folks for all the kind regards.
Good to hear that your home Geoff and hope your soon back to your normal self
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on August 24, 2015, 10:50:57 AM
Quote from: jonclox on August 24, 2015, 10:45:06 AM
Quote from: Geoff on August 23, 2015, 02:51:27 PM
Just got home but now I am an out patient so happy to be home thanks very much folks for all the kind regards.
Good to hear that your home Geoff and hope your soon back to your normal self

Thank you, well I am on holiday this week anyway, and already I have got my self into my man cave to play with the trains, under orders no lifting from the wife haha, I am going to get the branch line built while I am off work this week. I shall take it easy no stress in Modelling.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on August 24, 2015, 11:01:05 AM
Holiday ... strange concept ...  :confused1:

You get yourself delving deep into playing working on that branch line  :thumbsup:

Gonna be another month before I allow myself time off for bad good behaviour  :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: REGP on August 24, 2015, 11:27:31 AM
Thank you, well I am on holiday this week anyway, and already I have got my self into my man cave to play with the trains, under orders no lifting from the wife haha, I am going to get the branch line built while I am off work this week. I shall take it easy no stress in Modelling.
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The man cave sounds the best place for a spot of convalescence, as much peace and quiet as you want and the chance to play trains to do a bit of modelling.

Ray
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on August 24, 2015, 11:28:12 AM
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't it a bit hilly round the Himalayas?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on August 24, 2015, 11:41:01 AM

Good to hear that you are back in the cave.

Quote from: Geoff on August 24, 2015, 10:50:57 AMI shall take it easy no stress in Modelling.
So that means no reading of the Angry Thread, no perusing of Tesco or other Shop threads, and whatever you do - no going near any Air Show threads  :laugh3: :laugh: :bounce: ;D ;D ;D
Oh, yes, and maybe best to stear clear of any Exhibition discussions  :D :D

PS is attempted black humour allowed in an Angry Thread or am I in trouble ?
more ducks@running

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Maurits71 on August 24, 2015, 11:44:49 AM
 :laughabovepost:
very angry about this
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on August 24, 2015, 11:55:58 AM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on August 24, 2015, 11:41:01 AM

Good to hear that you are back in the cave.

Quote from: Geoff on August 24, 2015, 10:50:57 AMI shall take it easy no stress in Modelling.
So that means no reading of the Angry Thread, no perusing of Tesco or other Shop threads, and whatever you do - no going near any Air Show threads  :laugh3: :laugh: :bounce: ;D ;D ;D
Oh, yes, and maybe best to stear clear of any Exhibition discussions  :D :D

PS is attempted black humour allowed in an Angry Thread or am I in trouble ?
more ducks@running

Well that has just cracked me up haha well when I was in hospital and folks were there in the ward I had them cracking up and I think they might be glad I have come home or not, one needs to enjoy life no good being miserable about the ailment I have.

I even had all of the nurses giving me a pat on the back and that is a long story, but The NHS staff are brilliant they saved my life and I will always be thankful from the ambulance staff to A and E through to the ward they were all brilliant, after 4 1/2 days in hospital to coming home to my family is brilliant I do have to go back for more tests through out patients but that is fine I need to find out why and what caused the Hemorrhage.

But I for one am going to live for today and enjoy my family and my model railway plus the banter I get from fellow members here on the forum any way back to my Branch Line.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on August 24, 2015, 12:19:21 PM
Yer, me too, out patients tomorrow, again  , , and I dont know either !
after a lifetime of doing (almost!) the right thing (maintaining 2acres of gardens and veg.plot, no desk job, no smoking for 40y, healthy food -raw veg. prepare all my own food etc&etc) they will again be asking me if I get plenty of excersize, do I need any diet help, do I need help to give up smoking grrrrr.

No, just an anti-stress pill please, and a happy pill might be a good idea to go with all the other pills :(
So now I am living for today; the garden can look after itself and I may even start smoking tomorrow.
Me angry ? Whatever gave you that idea  :veryangry: >:( :laugh3: :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on August 24, 2015, 12:39:34 PM
I know some people really do need this kind of medicine (and this is in no way aimed at them !), but the over-prescription of stuff like statins & blood pressure tablets is beyond a joke ... you just need to appear to come close to the generalized requirements to have your doctor putting the health guilt-trip on you, and once taking them it's near-impossible to come off them ...  And why ?  In a lot of cases, not for a medical reason, but because the practice gets a larger kick-back of cash the more people they sign up !!!  :veryangry:

My doctor got rather embarrassed when I challenged his statement that I needed to go onto statins due to the cholesterol figures - the 'bad' level had consistently gone down over the previous 3 months & the 'good' up; OK, the overall count was still above average - but was under the 'have to do something' level !  Ditto blood pressure - I started monitoring it myself on a daily basis when put on a low dose, and saw that my levels were a lot lower at home than when I went to see him ( :hmmm:) ... managed to wean myself off those tablets, and had the graphs to prove I was doing OK & was now under the original levels; he was unable to give me valid reasons to stay on 'em ... and was not happy when I said "that's enough then"  ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 24, 2015, 12:43:22 PM
I had my blood pressure checked some years ago and it was 220/160. I asked the doctor what he thought and he said"don't bother buying any long playing records"
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on August 24, 2015, 12:51:03 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on August 23, 2015, 04:31:18 PM
As to seed longevity, I'll err on the side of caution.
Very wise,
but I was just quoting your expert ref ;) !

You could practice extreem caution and continue sending SWMBO to the battle front whilst you set up Field HQ near to the man cave ?   :angel:  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on August 24, 2015, 01:00:59 PM
I'd like to see out the end of the day, if you don't mind  :P

Seriously, the marks on her arm are blistering a bit now; they're getting a bit better with the creams she's applying, but aren't nice :( 

Another good reason to get rid of this stuff !  Think we'll need to get another couple of pairs of long gardening gauntlets first though !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on August 24, 2015, 01:11:56 PM
 :laughabovepost:  :thumbsup:

Seriously,, I do agree, I didnt read the whole of that ref nor any other, is it known for this ? It does look rather pretty and I've not seen any on my hill, but remind me, then, not to ask you for any seeds !
You're sure there is no Giant Hogweed nearby, I hear tell that it can cause similar !

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on August 24, 2015, 01:43:45 PM
It surprised me too, as there isn't anything listed on allergy; OTOH, she's allergic to strawberries too (but that doesn't stop her eating 'em all up  ::)) ...  I had thought it was more likely to be another weed from that area of the garden (it's a 10' wide strip between the back of a Leylandii hedge & the neighbour's fence, call it 50' long or thereabouts), but she's telling me it was one of these ...

As to the plant ... pretty ?  Well, the flowers are, yes, hence it being collected; that's another issue, as the bees prefer these to 'ordinary' flowering plants (more nectar), which reduces that biodiversity  :confused1: ...  As far as that goes, the established plant sprouts 'branches' around to fill about a 2' circle, so a bunch of these will quickly drown out native plants  :(  And when they rot down over winter, they release chemicals that inhibit other plants too ...  Can't say that I find the structure of the plant particularly nice; picture a drinking straw that continues to widen over the season to in excess of 10cm diameter ... and sprouts off branches.  The pink roots come from the circular base about 1cm up & embed themselves into the soil for about 5cm deep.

Can't say I've seen it around here apart from the far end of my garden, but the seeds came from somewhere ...  :hmmm:  Re Giant Hogweed - no, I know what that looks like, & I've got none of it  ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 24, 2015, 03:59:19 PM
Quote from: Malc on August 24, 2015, 12:43:22 PM
I had my blood pressure checked some years ago and it was 220/160. I asked the doctor what he thought and he said"don't bother buying any long playing records"

I've been advised not to buy any unripe bananas :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on August 24, 2015, 08:57:51 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 24, 2015, 03:59:19 PM
Quote from: Malc on August 24, 2015, 12:43:22 PM
I had my blood pressure checked some years ago and it was 220/160. I asked the doctor what he thought and he said"don't bother buying any long playing records"

I've been advised not to buy any unripe bananas :worried:

I've been told by my Doctor not to buy any Tom Jones LP's not because I wont live long enough to listen to them but because they are crap  :claphappy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 24, 2015, 09:32:47 PM
Quote from: paulprice on August 24, 2015, 08:57:51 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 24, 2015, 03:59:19 PM
Quote from: Malc on August 24, 2015, 12:43:22 PM
I had my blood pressure checked some years ago and it was 220/160. I asked the doctor what he thought and he said"don't bother buying any long playing records"

I've been advised not to buy any unripe bananas :worried:

I've been told by my Doctor not to buy any Tom Jones LP's not because I wont live long enough to listen to them but because they are crap  :claphappy:

:laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on August 24, 2015, 09:46:26 PM
Quote from: paulprice on August 24, 2015, 08:57:51 PM
I've been told by my Doctor not to buy any Tom Jones LP's not because I wont live long enough to listen to them but because they are crap  :claphappy:
Well, it's not unusual ...

(hat, coat, door ...)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on August 25, 2015, 01:07:03 AM
Tom Jones used to play for Swindon Town. So there!  :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on August 25, 2015, 05:17:58 PM
Quote from: Geoff on August 24, 2015, 11:55:58 AMI do have to go back for more tests through out patients but that is fine
Quote from: MalcolmAL on August 24, 2015, 12:19:21 PM
Yer, me too, out patients tomorrow, again  , ,
Ah, now here we have a wee story I hope your outpatient review goes better than mine , , tomorrow arrived ok and turned out ok in the end, it was the bit in the middle I could have done without  :( , ,

Without going into too many details ( to save you boring story) !,
Q. "Where is a good place to be when getting surprise pains in your chest"
A " In front of your consultant in the outpatient dept " !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on August 25, 2015, 05:20:37 PM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on August 25, 2015, 05:17:58 PM
Without going into too many details ( to save you boring story) !,
Q. "Where is a good place to be when getting surprise pains in your chest"
A " In front of your consultant in the outpatient dept " !
Oh grief  :doh:

Well, at least you had an expert on tap !  Glad to hear things went OK in the end !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on August 25, 2015, 05:28:22 PM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on August 25, 2015, 05:17:58 PM
Quote from: Geoff on August 24, 2015, 11:55:58 AMI do have to go back for more tests through out patients but that is fine
Quote from: MalcolmAL on August 24, 2015, 12:19:21 PM
Yer, me too, out patients tomorrow, again  , ,
Ah, now here we have a wee story I hope your outpatient review goes better than mine , , tomorrow arrived ok and turned out ok in the end, it was the bit in the middle I could have done without  :( , ,

Without going into too many details ( to save you boring story) !,
Q. "Where is a good place to be when getting surprise pains in your chest"
A " In front of your consultant in the outpatient dept " !

Talk about being in the right place, thats what you call NHS on tap.

I hope you are fine now oh boy how health is so precious.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on August 25, 2015, 06:04:57 PM
I have COPD , high blood pressure, high cholesterol and a couple of years ago suffered a pulmonary embolism but the tales of woe on this thread makes me realise just how lucky I am!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on August 25, 2015, 07:02:31 PM
ah, better now, first food in 10hrs and a glass of wine > less angry thread :)
(red wine is supposed to be healthy now isnt it ;) )

Quote from: Geoff on August 25, 2015, 05:28:22 PMthats what you call NHS on tap.
Yes !
I have had a few 'exciting' rides recently*, but this time I seem to have had the presence of mind to deliver myself 'all in good time' hahaa !
We are very lucky to have the NHS for emergencies, but poor ol' NPN and others have trouble with the less than emergency service, so room for improvement there ?!
*which is all the more disconcerting since my only other time many many decades ago was when my mother was having problems with me !!!
(except for when I was installing a Morris Oxford engine into a Morris Isis by myself when I was ummm somewhat younger ! Angry then not half ! but noones fault but my own  :dunce:)

Quote from: steve836 on August 25, 2015, 06:04:57 PM
high blood pressure, high cholesterol
,
me realise just how lucky I am!
Try high and low BP at the same time ( well not exactly in the General Theory of Relativity sense ) but I could offer advice on statins and cholesterol but
(a) You probably have had all that stuff
and (b) wouldnt want to upset Mike and Malc  LOL! :laugh:
,
yep agreed, very lucky we are,
and dont get me wrong with all these angry tales,, I can still fell a tree with axe and saw, did just that t'other day, and I am still very ambulatory,,
quick look over the shoulder cos the gods seem to have a go at me every now and again when I get too cocky  :) :)
So yer gotta larf really.

Now what shall I do about this engine shed, > goes back to Gimp.


Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ten0G on August 29, 2015, 02:38:34 PM
:hellosign:

I would be posting on here but as the post is a very long one, I thought it best to start a dedicated thread. 

Please follow the link if you, or anyone you know, suffers from being in a state of long-term Atrial Fibrillation, a type of arrhythmia. 

:thankyousign:

Quote from: ten0G on August 29, 2015, 01:40:11 PM
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on September 02, 2015, 06:47:10 AM
First of all I am a hard working person and I have worked for my company for 15 years and I have never had any time off through sick, I am very consiensios and have allways turned my work out on time, as you know I have just been in hospital, and as soon as I got back to work my boss asked me when I was going to pay the time back for when I was in hospital, I have never seen this side of him before and now I am thinking of going into work at 8 am instead of 7-30 like I normally do, my output is going to be slower so the more fool him, I am 63 and I doubt I will get a job anywhere else and I was thinking of working until I was 70 but very doubtful about that now.

Oh well work to rule starts today.

:censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on September 02, 2015, 07:15:29 AM
Sorry to read of your situation at work. I hope though that your are feeling well after the recent stay in hospital.

I 'discovered' I had a difficult boss around the same age as you but was fortunate enough to be able to take early retirement. I've never regretted that decision.

I wish you the best of luck!

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on September 02, 2015, 07:31:29 AM
Sorry to hear of that, Geoff. We are the same age mate, and I'd be telling him where to stuff it. I certainly wouldn't think about working until 70.

Health first, buddy. Hope you are well after your spell in hospital.  :thumbsup:

George
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on September 02, 2015, 07:46:57 AM
I don't blame you Geof it's always those that work the hardest that get treated the worst it seems I was treated very badly and was unfairly dismissed but not because of being in hospital it's a long story so won't go into details here.
Good luck for the future.
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on September 02, 2015, 09:13:28 AM
I'm with you on this too Geoff. Glad to hear you're recovered though.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 02, 2015, 09:59:42 AM
That's disgusting, Geoff, and should be referred to a union if you're a member of one.
I was lucky enough to be able to take early retirement to get away from a boss who was a complete  :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on September 02, 2015, 02:46:58 PM
Well I have had one hell of a barmy with him and told him to stick it then something must of clicked and now he has decided to pay me, still bloody mad with him oh boy I am sure he does not know what side his bread is buttered.

Thanks for the kind words folks.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 02, 2015, 04:21:22 PM
Glad you sorted the monetary aspect, Geoff, but beware - idiots like him tend to have long memories :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: fatso on September 02, 2015, 04:40:50 PM
 :veryangry: Why do I do this to myself I know from past disasters that obtaining kato spare  part are like looking for hens teeth yet I still buy kato locos knowing full well I or my disabled children club will end up killing a loco that I cant buy spare from here in the U.K some where I think is a mounting of broken loco hidden away by someone just need the secret password Kato 10 points fatso nil.mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on September 02, 2015, 06:53:18 PM
 :censored: Shapeways order placed over bank holiday, PayPal payment approved and balance deducted from his my bank account.Order acknowledged and notified at printing stage. E-mail today saying order has been cancelled. Don't think I shall be bothered to order again. Trouble is I wanted these bits but don't see why if I re-order I am  now going to have to pay shipping.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on September 02, 2015, 09:50:39 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on September 02, 2015, 04:21:22 PM
Glad you sorted the monetary aspect, Geoff, but beware - idiots like him tend to have long memories :hmmm:
Ditto, Geoff.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on September 02, 2015, 10:33:51 PM
Sorry about the badly hidden bad language am really cross about this
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on September 02, 2015, 10:38:17 PM
Was any reason given for the cancellation? Without knowing all the details, (and the small print!), I would think that if they have accepted the order and taken your money,(albeit repaid), they are in breach of contract.  ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on September 02, 2015, 10:47:16 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on September 02, 2015, 10:38:17 PM
Was any reason given for the cancellation? Without knowing all the details, (and the small print!), I would think that if they have accepted the order and taken your money,(albeit repaid), they are in breach of contract.  ???
Not yet  have emailed them to find out why.
Has happened before and it turned out to be a material problem although I had already had prints of the same item  prior to that, on that order.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Luke Piewalker on September 08, 2015, 08:48:01 PM
Who decided to ship the new Farish Duchesses without the coupling hook mounted on the rear of the tender!
Having sent the short shank hook into the depths of the floor somewhere, my attempts at fitting the longer shank one that's spare off the front have been unsuccessful

:veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on September 10, 2015, 12:11:46 PM
Well they have started, Pension phone calls from private companies wanting to cash in my private pension, well I can tell you what I told them, I am taking my pension as it is supposed to be, please go away and do not phone back.

Who do they think they are taking a chunk out of other peoples hard earned money they can sod off.  :censored:

sorry government your not getting extra taxes out of me at the present time bog off.  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on September 10, 2015, 12:20:41 PM
Eek! But typical.  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on September 10, 2015, 12:52:01 PM
Quote from: Geoff on September 10, 2015, 12:11:46 PM
well I can tell you what I told them, [...] please go away and do not phone back.  [...] they can sod off.  :censored:
And that has the effect of ... putting you on the list to be called again tomorrow, or have the details sold on as a 'live' number ...

If your phone has answering facilities - use it to screen callers (amazing how many hand up when they hear the answering machine - and the best bit is they've already been hit with the charge  :thumbsup:); and if it has blocking facilities, block the buggers - the system basically ID's their number as a blocked one, and then picks up & hangs up - again hitting them with the charge  :thumbsup:  Sadly, you can't do this to withheld or international numbers, so that has to be the screening approach ...  The only way you know this has happened is if you have an old-style analogue phone connected somewhere; the bell will tinkle for a fraction of a second.  Otherwise silence is bliss  :angel:

After all - if the caller from an unknown number really needs to contact you - they'll leave a message  :D  And if (while screening) you decide to speak with them, you can  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on September 10, 2015, 07:05:35 PM
I bought a call blocker off Amazon for about £30. It's the best £30 I've ever spent. It has hundreds of spam numbers built in and you can add extra ones by hitting the big red button during the call. Silence is bliss.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on September 10, 2015, 07:19:59 PM
Quote from: Malc on September 10, 2015, 07:05:35 PM
I bought a call blocker off Amazon for about £30. It's the best £30 I've ever spent. It has hundreds of spam numbers built in and you can add extra ones by hitting the big red button during the call. Silence is bliss.

I do not have a problem with the house phone we never give that number out, I started getting dodgy calls when I changed my mobile provider from EE to BT.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on September 10, 2015, 08:07:34 PM
Quote from: Geoff on September 10, 2015, 07:19:59 PM
I do not have a problem with the house phone we never give that number out
Makes no difference - there are people who spam numbers not known to be used, and sell on those that answer ...

QuoteI started getting dodgy calls when I changed my mobile provider from EE to BT.
If a smartphone, you can get blocker apps if the phone (or provider) doesn't have that functionality built-in.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on September 10, 2015, 08:18:49 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on September 10, 2015, 08:07:34 PM
Quote from: Geoff on September 10, 2015, 07:19:59 PM
I do not have a problem with the house phone we never give that number out
Makes no difference - there are people who spam numbers not known to be used, and sell on those that answer ...

QuoteI started getting dodgy calls when I changed my mobile provider from EE to BT.
If a smartphone, you can get blocker apps if the phone (or provider) doesn't have that functionality built-in.

Hi Mike I think I am in luck I have a LG mobile and it lets you block callers so that number is now blocked.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 10, 2015, 08:58:39 PM
Speaking of BT, 2 years ago I got their telephone directory through the door and...surprise, surprise...my number was listed. I rang them up and fired a rocket up their  :censored: as I'm supposedly ex directory. They couldn't think of an excuse but stated I would be withdrawn from said directory before the next one came out.
Yeah - you're ahead of me. Got the latest version this week and I'm still in the  :censored: thing.
I took early retirement in part to avoid officialdom that doesn't listen but still suffer from it ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on September 10, 2015, 10:37:50 PM
We are ex directory and am on the phone preference service, but we still got spam calls from these automated callers. The blocker was a god send.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on September 13, 2015, 10:35:08 AM
 :censored:  :headbutt: Toms dad has just emailed me saying that for a few nights (?)  he is going to need his bed back ready to use. The beds under a great pile of storred  :ngauge: stock and has junk piled in front of it   + of course its now the railway room and he works nights so chaos and bedlam ensues for an indefinite period  :headbutt: :headbutt:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on September 13, 2015, 02:47:27 PM
So now the layouts buried under piles of stuff and interloper now installed in  bed and snoring  his head off.
Seems that he got uptight with something his partner had dun so she smashed the telly  :hmmm:
Now this morning she is demanding he go and but a new one for her and the kids   :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on September 13, 2015, 02:55:44 PM
I should tell him that he's a grown up and should go home and sort it out
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 13, 2015, 03:00:44 PM
Bad enough when you have your own 'domestics' without getting caught up in others.
Strikes me he has run away from the problem instead of dealing with it himself ::)
Sorry, Jon, but I'd have got short shrift from my parents and been told 'you made your bed now lie in it'.
Instead you've given him a bed to lie in.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: REGP on September 13, 2015, 04:06:34 PM
Sorry Jon but got to agree with Nobby, by all means help them out on occasions  but they have to sort out that type of problem themselves not run away.

Ray
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on September 13, 2015, 04:41:51 PM
Agreed. Giving him a bed is one thing but beyond that he/she are on their own. Its the effect on the grandkids that worry us
He has gone home now (but left his kit here)  to try and sort thing out and comfort (?) the kids.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: fatso on September 15, 2015, 10:01:06 AM
1O Days night mare has started with the WORLD ARMS FAIR being right on my door step every two years this year the police presents is a lot and officer with guns walking around and on the river gun boats one of the things we have live with here London be so near to the EXCEL  my lady been stop 5 times in 3 days even thou she has a passing stating we live here  I guess  they have to have somewhere and we got lucky  lol.mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 15, 2015, 10:09:03 AM
Well, at least you should feel a bit safer with armed police everywhere - providing they don't start nicking things :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: REGP on September 15, 2015, 10:25:18 AM
Quote from: fatso on September 15, 2015, 10:01:06 AM
1O Days night mare has started with the WORLD ARMS FAIR being right on my door step every two years this year the police presents is a lot and officer with guns walking around and on the river gun boats one of the things we have live with here London be so near to the EXCEL  my lady been stop 5 times in 3 days even thou she has a passing stating we live here  I guess  they have to have somewhere and we got lucky  lol.mike

A mate and I decided to have a look at the small naval ships tied up outside the EXCEL Centre during the last exhibition. So we went up on the high pedestrian bridge over the dock and there I was taking photos of the ships when I heard "excuse me sir  (in deep brown voice ) what are you doing up here".

Turned round to find 5 armed coppers behind me,  it turns out the bridge was closed as a security precaution and we had walked straight through their security cordon without realising it.

Although we had a laugh about I with them they still insisted we left.

Ray

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: fatso on September 15, 2015, 10:46:48 AM
Quote from: REGP on September 15, 2015, 10:25:18 AM
Quote from: fatso on September 15, 2015, 10:01:06 AM
1O Days night mare has started with the WORLD ARMS FAIR being right on my door step every two years this year the police presents is a lot and officer with guns walking around and on the river gun boats one of the things we have live with here London be so near to the EXCEL  my lady been stop 5 times in 3 days even thou she has a passing stating we live here  I guess  they have to have somewhere and we got lucky  lol.mike

A mate and I decided to have a look at the small naval ships tied up outside the EXCEL Centre during the last exhibition. So we went up on the high pedestrian bridge over the dock and there I was taking photos of the ships when I heard "excuse me sir  (in deep brown voice ) what are you doing up here".

Turned round to find 5 armed coppers behind me,  it turns out the bridge was closed as a security precaution and we had walked straight through their security cordon without realising it.

Although we had a laugh about I with them they still insisted we left.

Ray


Quote from: REGP on September 15, 2015, 10:25:18 AM

That bridge is only 5mins walk from my front door .mike
Quote from: fatso on September 15, 2015, 10:01:06 AM
1O Days night mare has started with the WORLD ARMS FAIR being right on my door step every two years this year the police presents is a lot and officer with guns walking around and on the river gun boats one of the things we have live with here London be so near to the EXCEL  my lady been stop 5 times in 3 days even thou she has a passing stating we live here  I guess  they have to have somewhere and we got lucky  lol.mike

A mate and I decided to have a look at the small naval ships tied up outside the EXCEL Centre during the last exhibition. So we went up on the high pedestrian bridge over the dock and there I was taking photos of the ships when I heard "excuse me sir  (in deep brown voice ) what are you doing up here".

Turned round to find 5 armed coppers behind me,  it turns out the bridge was closed as a security precaution and we had walked straight through their security cordon without realising it.

Although we had a laugh about I with them they still insisted we left.

Ray
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on September 18, 2015, 04:01:21 PM
I am thinking my next project will be making a tiny doll model for each of the family we brought this house from......and impale them all on a spiky thing....... :veryangry: :censored:

Just had an attempted fitting of our new oven.

Shut off gas, dis-connected old oven.

Dis-connected electricity from old oven.

Clever looking box of tricks attached to power supply from wall....BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP  :( :worried: :(

"Polarity Warning"  :goggleeyes:

Much swearing from bloke trying to fit oven. Checks power switch in wall (which we have had replaced), all looks / seems fine.

Checks fuse board, same. Conclusion? "Maybe a cross connection at some point between fuse box and oven, nothing more I can do".

FFS!

SO, old oven still here, but now useless. Thankfully company involved are being decent and have said they will re-attempt fitting once we get leccy sorted (no extra charge).

Our preffered sparky is going on holiday from tomorrow. We are supposed to be saving for a wedding, and now have no oven to cook with and thus prevent our eating out habbit.

ARG!....ARG! I say!

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on September 18, 2015, 08:08:42 PM
Quote from: findus on March 29, 2011, 09:42:45 PM
is the place to let ofThis  steam about anything that angers you!

I hate stupid tv programs that my trainee wife watches; cougar town, the hills, glee ,sex and the city,90210,  >:( >:( >:(

Your wife watches a TV show about an ex-WD 8F 2-8-0 ?

;)







the small print!
Just make sure its not in anyway offensive or directed at anybody on the forum..
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on September 20, 2015, 12:32:37 AM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on September 18, 2015, 04:01:21 PM
............... once we get leccy sorted (no extra charge)...............

Skyline2uk

Adam, where are you exactly? PM me if you prefer. Doubtful that I could get to you quickly as already committed to something tomorrow and working next week. I may be able to help with a bit more info though.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on September 21, 2015, 07:51:01 AM
Well time for my rant.........you know what has really got my anger muscles pulsing................its not going to be popular but its.........wait for it US, N GAUGE BRITISH OUTLINE MODELLERS...... :sorrysign:

YES ITS US.....I'm sorry you can all line up to kick me in the Gentleman's area, but let me explain, I know I have contributed to the conversations about reliability of locomotives, availability of models and ever rising prices but we have to STOP.....we are giving our N Gauge enemies to much advantage.

Let me explain what could be described by some as my madness. Last night the Domestic Overlord, made one of those throw away comments, or at least I thought it was a throw away comment, but then I did a little research last night, and some pondering when I should have been sleeping and the perhaps they are right  :'(

The comment was "those O gauge wagons are quite cheap" and you know what they are right, I was looking at a couple of new PO wagons on the web at around £14 each when I hit the wrong button and saw O gauge PO's at around £30. The other half noticed that straight away and then made comments that it x times the size for not much more and therefore you would need less stock............

Now I am on to this clever ploy by the Domestic Authority, other comments made when visiting Liverpool box shifters of, "Look you can get the same model, but bigger for less here" or "these things will be easier to work on because they are bigger".  Added to the fact that when I go to my local club, the OO modellers who moan about everything under the sun, as easy as drawing breath sometimes, never ever moan about locomotive failures...............

Is I true am I going mad, (they did say when I left college that I should never get a job that involves wearing a white coat, unless the sleeves were at the back  :-X) but is there something more to this... :hmmm: :hmmm: :hmmm: :hmmm: :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on September 21, 2015, 09:09:30 AM
An interesting point, PP but what should be done about the pricing differential, if that's the main point here?

I have also noticed the gauge v price thing on both retail and eBay websites but my reasoning is that just because it's bigger, it ain't necessarily better made or vfm. Making quite small model trains and rolling stock that look the part and dare I say, work 9 times out of 10, right out the box isn't that bad. From my small collection of 44 steamers and diesels (50/50 mix) I've had to return 2. One as DOA and another just a bad 'un.

My Significant Other often says 'What more!?' as another parcel arrives from Liverpool/Sheffield/Bideford (etc) but never criticizes the choice of N gauge.

Another option is to respond to in-house comments with 'You are quite incorrect and anyway, I like this/these better, so there  :nerner:' and await the reaction.   :D

I am advised that my special white coat is in the back of the wardrobe but readily available.   :wave:

Dave G

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on September 21, 2015, 09:15:43 AM
There is a great deal of truth in what you say, Paul, but presumably we choose N gauge for reasons which prevent us choosing larger scales. In my case it's because I wanted to model a prototype and run scale length trains. To build the same thing in OO would take an area of 36ft x 16ft  and in O 72ft x 32ft. If I had wanted to model a branch line with tank engines and short trains I would have chosen OO especially as there is a much larger choice of prototype. O gauge would only be suitable for the sort of model which fits in a suitcase in N. However that doesn't give manufacturers the right to take the pee with prices (based on volume an N gauge model should be 1/8th the price of OO) or faulty goods.
So no kick in the nuts from me but I think you need to redirect your anger. :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ozymandias on September 21, 2015, 09:47:10 AM
Paul, that was no throw away comment from the Domestic Overlord...! ;) It's up there with "I can't see why you don't sell the (beloved, cherished, adored) Mini and get a more modern car that you don't have to work on so much."

It's because I can tinker with and maintain my beautiful little Min that I love it so much. And it's only ever broken down once, and that was my fault for not tightening up the valves, so there).

It's the same with N Gauge - yes, you can get bigger, perhaps more reliable, "more model for your money" locos and stock - but you can get far more pleasure out of having much more layout per square inch, getting a recalcitrant loco to work well (yes, I'm looking at you, Minitrix 9F!) or repainting a loco to make it the exact one you want.

The challenge is part of the fun (OK, not always, but mostly) - and anyway, anything bigger than N Gauge just looks like... a toy... ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on September 21, 2015, 09:59:08 AM
Quote from: Ozymandias on September 21, 2015, 09:47:10 AM
Paul, that was no throw away comment from the Domestic Overlord...! ;) It's up there with "I can't see why you don't sell the (beloved, cherished, adored) Mini and get a more modern car that you don't have to work on so much."

It's because I can tinker with and maintain my beautiful little Min that I love it so much. And it's only ever broken down once, and that was my fault for not tightening up the valves, so there).

It's the same with N Gauge - yes, you can get bigger, perhaps more reliable, "more model for your money" locos and stock - but you can get far more pleasure out of having much more layout per square inch, getting a recalcitrant loco to work well (yes, I'm looking at you, Minitrix 9F!) or repainting a loco to make it the exact one you want.

The challenge is part of the fun (OK, not always, but mostly) - and anyway, anything bigger than N Gauge just looks like... a toy... ;)

I agree, the challenge is part of the fun, so much so is my new challenge of looking at new houses, with bigger rooms for my trains, er sorry I mean visitors of course  :-[

I know how you feel about your jam jar, I had to get rid of my beloved Jag, for a flippin FORD (oh the shame) the pain of this loss was nearly as great as the pain I suffered when the Domestic Overlord said "its time to get rid of the Jag its getting old and tired" and I replied "the same could be said about you", still the week I spent unconscious was like a holiday I suppose......................................................
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ozymandias on September 21, 2015, 10:04:03 AM
Quote from: paulprice on September 21, 2015, 09:59:08 AM
Quote from: Ozymandias on September 21, 2015, 09:47:10 AM
Paul, that was no throw away comment from the Domestic Overlord...! ;) It's up there with "I can't see why you don't sell the (beloved, cherished, adored) Mini and get a more modern car that you don't have to work on so much."

It's because I can tinker with and maintain my beautiful little Min that I love it so much. And it's only ever broken down once, and that was my fault for not tightening up the valves, so there).

It's the same with N Gauge - yes, you can get bigger, perhaps more reliable, "more model for your money" locos and stock - but you can get far more pleasure out of having much more layout per square inch, getting a recalcitrant loco to work well (yes, I'm looking at you, Minitrix 9F!) or repainting a loco to make it the exact one you want.

The challenge is part of the fun (OK, not always, but mostly) - and anyway, anything bigger than N Gauge just looks like... a toy... ;)

I agree, the challenge is part of the fun, so much so is my new challenge of looking at new houses, with bigger rooms for my trains, er sorry I mean visitors of course  :-[

I know how you feel about your jam jar, I had to get rid of my beloved Jag, for a flippin FORD (oh the shame) the pain of this loss was nearly as great as the pain I suffered when the Domestic Overlord said "its time to get rid of the Jag its getting old and tired" and I replied "the same could be said about you", still the week I spent unconscious was like a holiday I suppose......................................................

:laughabovepost:

Paul, I am beginning to think our Domestic Overlords may be related... ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on September 21, 2015, 10:07:32 AM
Quote from: Ozymandias on September 21, 2015, 10:04:03 AM
Quote from: paulprice on September 21, 2015, 09:59:08 AM
Quote from: Ozymandias on September 21, 2015, 09:47:10 AM
Paul, that was no throw away comment from the Domestic Overlord...! ;) It's up there with "I can't see why you don't sell the (beloved, cherished, adored) Mini and get a more modern car that you don't have to work on so much."

It's because I can tinker with and maintain my beautiful little Min that I love it so much. And it's only ever broken down once, and that was my fault for not tightening up the valves, so there).

It's the same with N Gauge - yes, you can get bigger, perhaps more reliable, "more model for your money" locos and stock - but you can get far more pleasure out of having much more layout per square inch, getting a recalcitrant loco to work well (yes, I'm looking at you, Minitrix 9F!) or repainting a loco to make it the exact one you want.

The challenge is part of the fun (OK, not always, but mostly) - and anyway, anything bigger than N Gauge just looks like... a toy... ;)

I agree, the challenge is part of the fun, so much so is my new challenge of looking at new houses, with bigger rooms for my trains, er sorry I mean visitors of course  :-[

I know how you feel about your jam jar, I had to get rid of my beloved Jag, for a flippin FORD (oh the shame) the pain of this loss was nearly as great as the pain I suffered when the Domestic Overlord said "its time to get rid of the Jag its getting old and tired" and I replied "the same could be said about you", still the week I spent unconscious was like a holiday I suppose......................................................

:laughabovepost:

Paul, I am beginning to think our Domestic Overlords may be related... ;)

PLEASE DONT SAY THAT, it means there could be a tribe of them, and they might start hunting in packs.......were doomed, doomed I tell you, well they wont take me alive, I wear the trousers in my house (though skirts are quite comfortable...ahem). I'm going to make a stand and say enough is enough, Im going to put my foot down and make a stand for us picked on chaps.......well I might do, then the other half is in a better mood........ :help:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 21, 2015, 10:26:49 AM
I'd suggest you work out the footprint required to have your current N gauge layout replicated in 0 gauge, print off a few details from an estate agent showing houses with rooms large enough to accommodate the aforesaid 0 gauge layout and leave them lying about for the D.O. to find.
That, and a simple comparison betwixt the prices of N and 0 gauge Black 5s.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on September 21, 2015, 11:39:28 AM
Oh grief - I had exactly the same instruction about my Jag  :'(.

We then got a Peugeot and it cost a mint. Should've kept the Jag.

Good job I have a railway to build.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on September 21, 2015, 11:57:29 AM
Quote from: daveg on September 21, 2015, 11:39:28 AM
Oh grief - I had exactly the same instruction about my Jag  :'(.

We then got a Peugeot and it cost a mint. Should've kept the Jag.

Good job I have a railway to build.

Dave G

I know its not fair I have had a Jag since I was 19 and now I'm driving a FORD, not good......oh the indignity of it all  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: petercharlesfagg on September 21, 2015, 01:11:34 PM
It makes me upset whenever I see an advertisement by a company when it obviously doesn't want to sell the product!

I am interested in acquiring such but not at these silly prices, why do they leave them online?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0004DBB6A/ref=dra_a_rv_ff_fx_it_P2000_1000?tag=dradisplay0bb-21&ascsubtag=3eaff3a6cbd671711c24d6aaffc522be_S&dra_hfr=x&dra_ohs=72-96 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0004DBB6A/ref=dra_a_rv_ff_fx_it_P2000_1000?tag=dradisplay0bb-21&ascsubtag=3eaff3a6cbd671711c24d6aaffc522be_S&dra_hfr=x&dra_ohs=72-96)

Peter.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on September 21, 2015, 01:25:57 PM
Quote from: petercharlesfagg on September 21, 2015, 01:11:34 PM
It makes me upset whenever I see an advertisement by a company when it obviously doesn't want to sell the product!

I am interested in acquiring such but not at these silly prices, why do they leave them online?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0004DBB6A/ref=dra_a_rv_ff_fx_it_P2000_1000?tag=dradisplay0bb-21&ascsubtag=3eaff3a6cbd671711c24d6aaffc522be_S&dra_hfr=x&dra_ohs=72-96 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0004DBB6A/ref=dra_a_rv_ff_fx_it_P2000_1000?tag=dradisplay0bb-21&ascsubtag=3eaff3a6cbd671711c24d6aaffc522be_S&dra_hfr=x&dra_ohs=72-96)


Peter.


This may help, Peter.

http://www.modeltrainplus.net/collections/n-scale-tomix-new/products/tomix-2773-private-owner-low-loader-wagon-type-siki1000 (http://www.modeltrainplus.net/collections/n-scale-tomix-new/products/tomix-2773-private-owner-low-loader-wagon-type-siki1000)

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on September 21, 2015, 01:27:33 PM
Quote from: daveg on September 21, 2015, 01:25:57 PM
Quote from: petercharlesfagg on September 21, 2015, 01:11:34 PM
It makes me upset whenever I see an advertisement by a company when it obviously doesn't want to sell the product!

I am interested in acquiring such but not at these silly prices, why do they leave them online?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0004DBB6A/ref=dra_a_rv_ff_fx_it_P2000_1000?tag=dradisplay0bb-21&ascsubtag=3eaff3a6cbd671711c24d6aaffc522be_S&dra_hfr=x&dra_ohs=72-96 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0004DBB6A/ref=dra_a_rv_ff_fx_it_P2000_1000?tag=dradisplay0bb-21&ascsubtag=3eaff3a6cbd671711c24d6aaffc522be_S&dra_hfr=x&dra_ohs=72-96)


Peter.


This may help, Peter.

http://www.modeltrainplus.net/collections/n-scale-tomix-new/products/tomix-2773-private-owner-low-loader-wagon-type-siki1000 (http://www.modeltrainplus.net/collections/n-scale-tomix-new/products/tomix-2773-private-owner-low-loader-wagon-type-siki1000)

Dave G

Looking again, it may well be a typo and they really want £18.75???

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: petercharlesfagg on September 21, 2015, 04:13:28 PM
Quote from: daveg on September 21, 2015, 01:25:57 PM

This may help, Peter.

http://www.modeltrainplus.net/collections/n-scale-tomix-new/products/tomix-2773-private-owner-low-loader-wagon-type-siki1000 (http://www.modeltrainplus.net/collections/n-scale-tomix-new/products/tomix-2773-private-owner-low-loader-wagon-type-siki1000)

Dave G

David, thank you, I have ordered one from that company, I was merely checking out other suppliers, hopefully, nearer home!

I bought one from Wellington Models but the one from, Japan is still cheaper even including P&P!

Regards, Peter
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on September 21, 2015, 07:42:20 PM
Hello all.

So an update on the oven situation.....had a trusted sparky here today. He cannot re-create the fault.

Now I admit he didn't have the same test kit, but even I could see as plain as the nose on my face, the red wire was live, and the black not.

So a big hmmmmmm all round.

Supplier of oven to be called, re-delivered. If they still refuse to fit, will make them leave it and get money back for installation.

Isn't life fun?

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on September 21, 2015, 11:32:30 PM
I remember a few Years ago Skyline we had not had the MFI kitchen long when we had the house re-wired, the cooker was still under warranty and it kept shutting the lecky off. The sparky came round and in the end took the cooker to his house and it was the same on his system.  Eventually the oven supplier found the sensor wires in the back of the cooker were causing the problem, the fitter just put insulation tape round them to solve the problem.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on September 21, 2015, 11:38:41 PM
I am angry myself today, this afternoon I thought I would do a bit of maintainance on my 2 fish tanks. First tank no problem, second tank I opened the cupboard to find the external filter had started leaking. I thought no problem i intended to strip it anyway I will just fit a new spare seal, I keep a few it is a regular occurrence. Anyway to cut a long story short when I built it up has soon as it filled with water it leaked immediately, the head fastners had broken, bits of plastic fell off it. The damm thing is only just over 3 years old, they do not make stuff like they used to. I had to buy a new filter assy, you can be certain not the same make £140 thats a new loco and a few waggons gone down the swanny.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on September 22, 2015, 10:02:13 PM
Thoroughly :censored: off with PC World. bought 3 items from the a couple of weeks ago, two of them(a usb/mains adaptor and a connecting wire for SWMBO's i-pad) were defective so drove 15 miles to change them only to be told "no receipt so they wouldn't do anything" so had to drive home to get get a copy of my bank statement to show that I had bought them only to find the receipt in the box which had contained a wi-fi adaptor for my PC which I had bought at the same time. Unhelpful  :censored: :censored: :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on September 24, 2015, 07:59:37 AM
Just a little quick rant, but last night having worked nearly 14 hours at work I nipped into the local supermarket, to get a few vital supplies for diner, we are talking after 7pm here.

When I got in through the doors and into the actual aisles, what was I surrounded by...I will tell you, a mass "swarm" of purple haired dwarfs, it was like Gods waiting room. What is it about what I will politely call "seniors" which gives them the rights to block aisle while they chat about rubbish when you politely say "excuse me" to try and get past they look at you as if you have just given them the biggest insult ever.

Then they dawdle to the check out and take an infinity to remove their hopeful purchases of Spam and powdered eggs, and embalming fluid, from a huge trolley, the can neither reach the bottom off or possible fill (I mean they have plenty of smaller trollies available for them to avoid this, and if they did actually fill one, would they be able to push it or live long enough to actually use all the products :)).

I mean its undignified, all you hear in local supermarket is a faint thud as some poor old dear, reaches in to grab a can of pilchards from the bottom of the trolley, only to fall in head first, and very kindly provide the visual delight ( :doh:) of seeing various beige under-crackers and alluring surgical stocking. I mean they even have to employ staff to extricate them from the trollies. You must have noticed, "Doris" goes arss up at checkout 3, the till assistant hits the flashing light button (flashing in more ways than one), which means a crack team of spotty teenagers are dispatched, and come lolloping to the area with an oversized shoehorn and a jar of vicks (I don't know where the vicks is used).

BUT much worst than this, after I managed to make it to the checkouts, I was blocked in front and back by the "purple rinse mafia" and that is were they perpetrated their criminal act. The "old dear" in front, as she reached into her trolley to retrieve items individually, provided a FANFARE to celebrate each movement, by FARTING as she reached the extent of her reach.

Now I was always told its rude to bring these things to attention, but the noise was akin to something going supersonic and the pungent smell that followed, instantly dissolved any nasal hair I may have had and made my eyes water as if someone had rubbed them with onion puree. I mean what do these people eat, what aisle in the supermarket sells canned rotten badger and mouldy old cabbage???

Unfortunately as my lungs started to shut down, I naturally started to cough and splutter, and politely said "excuse me". That is when the "Jurassic narks" evil plan snapped into action, the evil farting fossil turned round and said "its okay my son use to do that when he was a little boy as well".

FOR ONE IT WAS NOT ME FARTING, AND TWO BEING COMPARED TO A LITTLE BOY IS JUST WRONG, I'M SIX FIIT SEVEN TALL AND 40 YEARS OLD. >:D >:D >:D >:D

TIME FOR MY RANT - CALLING ALL OL PEOPLE OUT THERE - WORTHERS OIGINALS ARE RUBBISH, NOBOBY LIKES CONDENSED MILK, THE REASON YOU DONT HEAR OLD FASHIONED MUSIC OR SEE OLD  SHOWS ON TV IS BECUASE THEY WERE RUBBISH . AND MORE IMPORTANTLY THAN THAT YOU DONT NEED ZIPS ON CARDIGANS OR SHOES.......there I have said it.. :worried: :confused1: :( :doh: :( :confused1: :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: petercharlesfagg on September 24, 2015, 08:50:03 AM
I can understand that you are going to be a real fun guy if and when you get to be old!

I only wish I could be around but unfortunately by the time you are 70-80 I am likely to have been pushing up daisies for a long time! :D

Interesting piece of comedy writing, though!  Don't push your tongue into your cheek too hard!

Peter.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on September 24, 2015, 08:57:06 AM
So apart from that you had a good day..........................

BTW, what you experienced was nowt  to last week in my local Lidl, a geezer on an electric
scooter/buggy went to the checkout, he was absolutely manky and stank like  a dead donkey,
he was only buying bread and milk so the cashier waved him through saying no charge, then 
shut down the till and went for air fresheners and worktop sprays to clear the stench.

Happy days!


Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on September 24, 2015, 09:04:30 AM
Quote from: paulprice on September 24, 2015, 07:59:37 AM
NOBODY LIKES CONDENSED MILK,

Wrong! :P

It is an ingredient of many fudge recipes, it's essential to make Masala Chai, and I'm a LONG LONG way from my pension yet ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on September 24, 2015, 09:13:25 AM
I'll be first to ask , who/  what's Masala Chai ?

a   A  character in a kungfu movie

b   Some kind of jungle juice

c   A substitute for Copydex....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on September 24, 2015, 09:53:22 AM
Quote from: Sprintex on September 24, 2015, 09:04:30 AM
Quote from: paulprice on September 24, 2015, 07:59:37 AM
NOBODY LIKES CONDENSED MILK,

Wrong! :P

It is an ingredient of many fudge recipes, it's essential to make Masala Chai, and I'm a LONG LONG way from my pension yet ;)


Paul

Fudge is for OLD PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :P

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on September 24, 2015, 09:57:23 AM
Quote from: petercharlesfagg on September 24, 2015, 08:50:03 AM
I can understand that you are going to be a real fun guy if and when you get to be old!

I only wish I could be around but unfortunately by the time you are 70-80 I am likely to have been pushing up daisies for a long time! :D

Interesting piece of comedy writing, though!  Don't push your tongue into your cheek too hard!

Peter.

Peter I don't think I will reach old age........

As for comedy writing, its a snapshot of local notrthern life in the town I live, nearly as good as if I havd took a picture and posted it here, but god knows what the vision of up turned "grannies" flashing their trusses would do to some members (don't be rude I mean the chaps on here).........oh fetch me bucket I feel queasy  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on September 24, 2015, 10:08:07 AM
Quote from: paulprice on September 24, 2015, 09:53:22 AM
Quote from: Sprintex on September 24, 2015, 09:04:30 AM
Quote from: paulprice on September 24, 2015, 07:59:37 AM
NOBODY LIKES CONDENSED MILK,

Wrong! :P

It is an ingredient of many fudge recipes, it's essential to make Masala Chai, and I'm a LONG LONG way from my pension yet ;)


Paul

Fudge is for OLD PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :P

Strange point of view given that the queue in fudge shops is usually mainly composed of kids ::)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on September 24, 2015, 10:22:57 AM
Quote from: Sprintex on September 24, 2015, 10:08:07 AM
Quote from: paulprice on September 24, 2015, 09:53:22 AM
Quote from: Sprintex on September 24, 2015, 09:04:30 AM
Quote from: paulprice on September 24, 2015, 07:59:37 AM
NOBODY LIKES CONDENSED MILK,

Wrong! :P

It is an ingredient of many fudge recipes, it's essential to make Masala Chai, and I'm a LONG LONG way from my pension yet ;)


Paul

Fudge is for OLD PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :P

Strange point of view given that the queue in fudge shops is usually mainly composed of kids ::)


Paul

They are just buying it for "coffin dodgers"
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on September 24, 2015, 10:50:31 AM
Made me laugh out loud, Paul! Kindly note absence of abbrev!  :P

Anyhoo, as one of probably several here that may have 'enjoyed' taking their state pension for a year or two, I am equally frustrated by older folk who:
have forgotten their manners, expect the door to be held open for them but fail to say thanks
Use their shopping devices as battering rams
reach across you as if you're invisible
park their (no blue badge) cars right on the corner/over the pavement so it's a danger to man and beast

Mind you, there seem to be plenty of 40 year-olds (and younger) that have similar tendencies. ;)

Ah well, all part of life's rich tapestry - which idiot actually said that first?

Dave G
PS: Hope the show goes well
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on September 24, 2015, 11:11:15 AM
I suppose all age groups have bad examples.

I personally have only been physically moved aside by an "older" person on one occasion (because I was enjoying a layout in the way of their camera  :confused1:) but that is nothing compared to behaviour I have seen of "young" people in pubs / clubs.

Life is full of challenges.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on September 24, 2015, 05:09:12 PM
Quote from: Agrippa on September 24, 2015, 09:13:25 AM
I'll be first to ask , who/  what's Masala Chai ?

a   A  character in a kungfu movie

b   Some kind of jungle juice

c   A substitute for Copydex....

"Masala  chai" is Indian tea sweet and milky -- very like the sort of tea drunk by loco crew on steamers
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on September 27, 2015, 11:01:32 AM
I have to go to work soon to fix a truck :'( I want to do my trains
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on September 27, 2015, 07:14:47 PM
Quote from: paulprice on September 27, 2015, 11:01:32 AM
I have to go to work soon to fix a truck :'( I want to do my trains

Try and stay positive, PP!

Work usually = Cash
Cash usually/often = Trains.

But in my case:
Pension = trains, sometimes

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on September 27, 2015, 09:46:04 PM
Quote from: daveg on September 27, 2015, 07:14:47 PM
Quote from: paulprice on September 27, 2015, 11:01:32 AM
I have to go to work soon to fix a truck :'( I want to do my trains

Try and stay positive, PP!

Work usually = Cash
Cash usually/often = Trains.

But in my case:
Pension = trains, sometimes

Dave G

Work = salaried for 8 hours a day actually work 12-15 hours a day, weekends not included  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on September 27, 2015, 10:56:33 PM
Sounds like you work for the same company as me Paul. I too went in today, salaried etc etc. I do enjoy my job though, do you?  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on September 28, 2015, 06:09:38 AM
Quote from: paulprice on September 27, 2015, 09:46:04 PM
Quote from: daveg on September 27, 2015, 07:14:47 PM
Quote from: paulprice on September 27, 2015, 11:01:32 AM
I have to go to work soon to fix a truck :'( I want to do my trains

Try and stay positive, PP!

Work usually = Cash
Cash usually/often = Trains.

But in my case:
Pension = trains, sometimes

Dave G

Work = salaried for 8 hours a day actually work 12-15 hours a day, weekends not included  :'(

Sympathies!

Did similar for a lot of years but decided to walk away a few years back.

Never regretted it but there are the obvious financial downsides.

Take it easy.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on September 28, 2015, 08:00:34 AM
I know I am going to et moaned at, but as far as I am concerned a loco does not look like a loco unless its got a crew an lamps fitted.

Now I know fitting crews can be difficult and involves sometimes severe butchery, and fitting plans to loco's can restrict their duties on your layout, but its better than nothing???

The problem is it can be time consuming, MORE SO WEHN THEN  :censored: LITTLE BRILLIANCE CRYSTALS KEEP FALLING OUT OF THE LAMPS JUAST AFTER THEEY HAVE BEEN FITTED NEVER TO BE SEEN AGAIN............AAAARRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on September 28, 2015, 08:13:44 AM
Quote from: paulprice on September 28, 2015, 08:00:34 AM
I know I am going to et moaned at, but as far as I am concerned a loco does not look like a loco unless its got a crew an lamps fitted.

Now I know fitting crews can be difficult and involves sometimes severe butchery, and fitting plans to loco's can restrict their duties on your layout, but its better than nothing???

The problem is it can be time consuming, MORE SO WEHN THEN  :censored: LITTLE BRILLIANCE CRYSTALS KEEP FALLING OUT OF THE LAMPS JUAST AFTER THEEY HAVE BEEN FITTED NEVER TO BE SEEN AGAIN............AAAARRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH

Never mind, they'll probably turn up next time a loco fails to work! :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on September 28, 2015, 08:16:59 AM
Quote from: steve836 on September 28, 2015, 08:13:44 AM
Quote from: paulprice on September 28, 2015, 08:00:34 AM
I know I am going to et moaned at, but as far as I am concerned a loco does not look like a loco unless its got a crew an lamps fitted.

Now I know fitting crews can be difficult and involves sometimes severe butchery, and fitting plans to loco's can restrict their duties on your layout, but its better than nothing???

The problem is it can be time consuming, MORE SO WEHN THEN  :censored: LITTLE BRILLIANCE CRYSTALS KEEP FALLING OUT OF THE LAMPS JUAST AFTER THEEY HAVE BEEN FITTED NEVER TO BE SEEN AGAIN............AAAARRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH

Never mind, they'll probably turn up next time a loco fails to work! :veryangry:

Don't get me started on that subject  :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on September 28, 2015, 08:21:04 AM
Quote from: paulprice on September 28, 2015, 08:16:59 AM
Quote from: steve836 on September 28, 2015, 08:13:44 AM
Quote from: paulprice on September 28, 2015, 08:00:34 AM
I know I am going to et moaned at, but as far as I am concerned a loco does not look like a loco unless its got a crew an lamps fitted.

Now I know fitting crews can be difficult and involves sometimes severe butchery, and fitting plans to loco's can restrict their duties on your layout, but its better than nothing???

The problem is it can be time consuming, MORE SO WEHN THEN  :censored: LITTLE BRILLIANCE CRYSTALS KEEP FALLING OUT OF THE LAMPS JUAST AFTER THEEY HAVE BEEN FITTED NEVER TO BE SEEN AGAIN............AAAARRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH

Never mind, they'll probably turn up next time a loco fails to work! :veryangry:

Don't get me started on that subject  :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

Looks like I already have! :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on September 28, 2015, 09:04:18 AM
Quote from: daveg on September 28, 2015, 06:09:38 AM
Quote from: paulprice on September 27, 2015, 09:46:04 PM
Quote from: daveg on September 27, 2015, 07:14:47 PM
Quote from: paulprice on September 27, 2015, 11:01:32 AM
I have to go to work soon to fix a truck :'( I want to do my trains

Try and stay positive, PP!

Work usually = Cash
Cash usually/often = Trains.

But in my case:
Pension = trains, sometimes

Dave G

Work = salaried for 8 hours a day actually work 12-15 hours a day, weekends not included  :'(

Sympathies!

Did similar for a lot of years but decided to walk away a few years back.

Never regretted it but there are the obvious financial downsides.

Take it easy.

Dave G
I too can sympathise. Up to January 2013 I had a supervisors job whereby I was responsible for a number of sites and about 20 staff. I received a salary and a 'bonus' of €60 a week for being on call 24/7 and if anyone went sick etc., I had to cover. For the last 3 months of 2012, I had a night vacancy at one site, so I had to cover those shifts, between 2 and 5 x 12 hours, per week. The boss decided that he wanted me to cover some more sites, so I, politely, told him no. I gave up the supervisors job, took over the night vacancy and have never looked back - best move I made in a long time!  :) (Maybe I should put this in the 'Happy' thread  :))
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on September 28, 2015, 09:45:31 AM
Quote from: Only Me on September 28, 2015, 08:46:32 AM
Just trade them in and buy Diesels :D

NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER, I would rather eat my own bowel than have Diesels  :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on September 28, 2015, 07:54:32 PM
Just called my plumber again ... 2nd time today.  The heating expansion tank that had a new ballcock fitted earlier this year is now letting the water run out of the overflow like it's a tap  :veryangry:  Won't turn off.

God knows how much this call-out will cost me !  :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on September 28, 2015, 08:31:01 PM
Mike can you just lift the ball 'male chicken' (changed by forum) arm up and then tye it or put a piece of wood across the tank under the arm that should stop it as a temporary measure.
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on September 28, 2015, 08:33:28 PM
Nope, as the  :censored: "stop" don't work  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on September 28, 2015, 09:04:15 PM
Well ... he's gone ...

New ballcock fitted (different type to the broke one), and he's put a kill-valve on the pipe into the tank (why he didn't do that when I had the main work done ...  :unimpressed:).  So the overflow now isn't, no noise of water teeming out, no gurgling from the pipework, and best of all, I made sure the bath tap pressure was back to normal & not the usual trickle after work is normally done  8) 

Fingers crossed ... ... ...  :-X  And aren't I glad I don't have a water meter  :P  But god knows what his bill will be  :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on October 02, 2015, 04:22:47 PM

I started to put this into the Unhappy Thread, but as I was writing it I could feel my blood boil and so I've put it over here instead:

I'm a James Bond fan and am so looking forward to the new film Spectre, so how disappointed was I when I heard that turgid, pile of  :poop:  released by Sam Smith, called 'Writings on the Wall' which is the new Bond Theme.  :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry: :censored:

It has got to be the worse Bond Theme ever, and to add insult to injury apparently it's made it to No1 in the charts WTF!!! How the hell did that happen!!!!, now I like some of Sam Smiths stuff, but this really is garbage. Apparently he says it took him 20 minutes to write it, trust me it shows!!!

Right, calm down Neal, it's only a song....... :worried: :worried:

But it is real  :poop: and a huge steaming pile of it. It bores me to tears when I hear it. I have to change channel on the radio when Radio 2 play it

AAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH

Regards

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on October 02, 2015, 04:36:22 PM
Charts ain't wot they used ta be  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on October 02, 2015, 04:40:35 PM
So not your favourite song then Neal?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 02, 2015, 04:44:44 PM
Well we are two weeks on and the saga of the oven continues.

There is a brand new, fully packaged oven sitting in the middle of my kitchen. And a big hole where the old one was. And until I find a gas safe fitter / sparky, that is how it will stay.

Argos immediately refunded installation costs but now playing silly buggers with compensation for two days work missed for the future Mrs.

It's not been a good week all in all, other things have really narked so I am glad the weekend is here.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 02, 2015, 08:00:00 PM
Quote from: Calnefoxile on October 02, 2015, 04:22:47 PM

I'm a James Bond fan and am so looking forward to the new film Spectre, so how disappointed was I when I heard that turgid, pile of  :poop:  released by Sam Smith, called 'Writings on the Wall' which is the new Bond Theme.

Have to agree with you, Neal. My sister asked me what I thought of the song yesterday - my reply had her in stitches and my Mum spluttering that her only son could use such language in public. As music for wimps goes, it's right down there at the deep end. John Barry et al must be in despair at such a piece of drivel (I wonder who'll be the first to ask who 'al' is :hmmm:)
Nobody will see the film as they'll have fallen asleep to the theme ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 02, 2015, 10:32:40 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 02, 2015, 08:00:00 PM

(I wonder who'll be the first to ask who 'al' is :hmmm:)

Didn't Simon and Garfunkel sing about 'Al'?  :)

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on October 02, 2015, 10:36:29 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on October 02, 2015, 10:32:40 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 02, 2015, 08:00:00 PM

(I wonder who'll be the first to ask who 'al' is :hmmm:)

Didn't Simon and Garfunkel sing about 'Al'?  :)

Nope :P

Paul Simon did, Art had nothing to do with it ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 02, 2015, 10:39:34 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on October 02, 2015, 10:36:29 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on October 02, 2015, 10:32:40 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 02, 2015, 08:00:00 PM

(I wonder who'll be the first to ask who 'al' is :hmmm:)

Didn't Simon and Garfunkel sing about 'Al'?  :)

Nope :P

Paul Simon did, Art had nothing to do with it ;)


Paul
Well, when you get to my age.......at least I was half right  :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: javlinfaw7 on October 02, 2015, 11:07:18 PM
You should never say 'art has nothing to do with it' when talking about a songwriter  of Paul Simons calibre.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on October 04, 2015, 12:23:30 PM
Quote from: Calnefoxile on October 02, 2015, 04:22:47 PM

I started to put this into the Unhappy Thread, but as I was writing it I could feel my blood boil and so I've put it over here instead:

I'm a James Bond fan and am so looking forward to the new film Spectre, so how disappointed was I when I heard that turgid, pile of  :poop:  released by Sam Smith, called 'Writings on the Wall' which is the new Bond Theme.  :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry: :censored:

It has got to be the worse Bond Theme ever, and to add insult to injury apparently it's made it to No1 in the charts WTF!!! How the hell did that happen!!!!, now I like some of Sam Smiths stuff, but this really is garbage. Apparently he says it took him 20 minutes to write it, trust me it shows!!!

Right, calm down Neal, it's only a song....... :worried: :worried:

But it is real  :poop: and a huge steaming pile of it. It bores me to tears when I hear it. I have to change channel on the radio when Radio 2 play it

AAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH

Regards

Neal.

There's nothing wrong with Sam Smith!

(http://www.samuelsmithsbrewery.co.uk/site/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Sovereign-Bitter-medium-107x130.jpg)

(http://www.samuelsmithsbrewery.co.uk/site/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Old-Brewery-Bitter-medium-107x130.jpg)

I quite like them anyway  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on October 09, 2015, 02:16:37 PM
 >:(  Just been reminded that in an hours time both SWMBOd and I are due to go to the GPs den of iniquity and suffer the annual joys of
TheFlu Jab
20015 variety
:-\ :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 09, 2015, 02:56:54 PM
Quote from: jonclox on October 09, 2015, 02:16:37 PM
>:(  Just been reminded that in an hours time both SWMBOd and I are due to go to the GPs den of iniquity and suffer the annual joys of
TheFlu Jab
20015 variety
:-\ :doh:

Live long and prosper, Jon ;)
(Or maybe it's a strain classified as a class 20 virus)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on October 09, 2015, 04:33:50 PM
Quote from: jonclox on October 09, 2015, 02:16:37 PM
>:(  Just been reminded that in an hours time both SWMBOd and I are due to go to the GPs den of iniquity and suffer the annual joys of
TheFlu Jab
20015 variety
:-\ :doh:
I knew we were being conned into this :veryangry:  but I ended up with a flue jab in one arm and a shingles one in the other
Still Ann got a once only pneremonuica newmonia type thingie in one arm and the flue jab in the other]
I s`pose 4 for the price of 2 aint bad  :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on October 09, 2015, 06:15:40 PM
 :'( don't like the sound of that, have my flu jab next Saturday, trouble is I always feel  :censored: afterwards.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on October 09, 2015, 06:40:59 PM
My big sis (71) had the flu and shingles duo and wasn't well at all for a few days. OK now but ...

Hope that was just bad luck on her part rather than what those that go for the combo can expect.

Take care everyone.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tom U on October 10, 2015, 04:33:54 AM
A few years ago, I had shingles above my right eye that caused huge swelling of my eyelid so it closed up and I looked like a cartoon prize fighter!
First day it was just an itchy red patch, doctor said it was a small skin infection and gave me antibiotics.  Next day, and just in time (window to start anti-virals is 72 hours from first itch) the second doctor (I didn't believe first) recognised it right away as shingles and started me on strong anti-virals. Had it not been for the second doctor's prompt action and daily monitoring, I would have lost the sight of the eye because more swelling would have damaged the optic nerve.
For months after the swelling sunbsided, the tingling and severe headaches continued.  Even now, years later, if I get a bit stressed or run down, the damaged nerve endings in the skin above my eyebrow feel like ants marching across.

So, I would say, if you are at all at risk of shingles (zosta) - I think the risk is if you had measles as a child, and the zosta virus hides in your body ready to pounce again in mature years - I would say a few days discomfort from the jab would be discomfort well spent!!!  :thumbsup:

Tom.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on October 10, 2015, 09:50:02 AM
Quote from: Oldman on October 09, 2015, 06:15:40 PM
:'( don't like the sound of that, have my flu jab next Saturday, trouble is I always feel  :censored: afterwards.
They (whoever `they` are)  say there maybe some slight  :poop: symptons for a few days but nothing serious :worried:
Shingles same as above  :(
Anti bios on standby just in case ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on October 10, 2015, 11:19:19 AM
I read somewhere that the problems you suffer after a flu jab is nothing to do with the serum itself. Apparently those people who suffer would still suffer if you injected water. It is a reaction to the injection, not what they are pumping in to you. I don't know if it is true or not, I gave blood at regular intervals, have loads of blood tests and have had the flu jab for 25 years with no ill effects.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jon898 on October 10, 2015, 02:22:36 PM
Quote from: Tom U on October 10, 2015, 04:33:54 AM

So, I would say, if you are at all at risk of shingles (zosta) - I think the risk is if you had measles as a child, and the zosta virus hides in your body ready to pounce again in mature years - I would say a few days discomfort from the jab would be discomfort well spent!!!  :thumbsup:

Tom.

It's actually from the chickenpox virus, which can lay dormant in your nerve cells for years and then reemerge as shingles.  I had chickenpox as a child and have now been vaccinated for shingles.  My wife believed she had not had chickenpox, but was tested and showed positive for the antibodies so was vaccinated as well (her father was a paediatrician and probably exposed her).  Chickenpox can be asymptomatic, hence they should test you to see if you need the varicella vaccine...as Tom points out, you definitely do NOT want to get shingles.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 10, 2015, 03:18:10 PM
I had shingles in the 1990s and it occurred in a band round my waist and back.
Part of the treatment was an ultra sound massage and it certainly speeded up the recovery process, although this would be of no use to someone who gets it in the eyelid ::)

At this rate I think we may have to have a Medical Thread :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on October 10, 2015, 03:56:22 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 10, 2015, 03:18:10 PM
in a band round my waist and back.
Part of the treatment was an ultra sound massage

At this rate I think we may have to have a Medical Thread :hmmm:
From my back, round my side and lower rib cage and I wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy,
wasnt offered ultrasound, nor a vaccine, was told to go home take ibuwhatsit and wait :(
That was ~30y ago and it has not yet repeated, but I can still feel a bit of an itch from where it was

goes looking for NPNs new thread >>>  :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 10, 2015, 06:37:52 PM
As Jon points out, shingles comes from having chickenpox. When you get chickenpox, you are infected with the herpes simplex virus, which can cause shingles and cold sores. The virus lies dormant, sometimes never giving people problems. I had shingles a few years ago which started on the day my boss went on a two week holiday. As I was his 'number 2' at the time, I had to carry on working and boy was it painful  :'( . If you have the chance to get the jab - get it! We do not have the chance here in Ireland, although we can get the flu jab.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on October 11, 2015, 10:31:32 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 09, 2015, 02:56:54 PM
Quote from: jonclox on October 09, 2015, 02:16:37 PM
>:(  Just been reminded that in an hours time both SWMBOd and I are due to go to the GPs den of iniquity and suffer the annual joys of
TheFlu Jab
20015 variety
:-\ :doh:

Live long and prosper, Jon ;)
(Or maybe it's a strain classified as a class 20 virus)
Many thanks Mick can you wish me............'.Live long and prosper, Jon'............ this every week as hours later I had a Euomillions prize come up.
OK it was only £12.98 but its a step in the positive direction  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on October 11, 2015, 01:28:56 PM
Quote from: jonclox on October 11, 2015, 10:31:32 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 09, 2015, 02:56:54 PM
Quote from: jonclox on October 09, 2015, 02:16:37 PM
>:(  Just been reminded that in an hours time both SWMBOd and I are due to go to the GPs den of iniquity and suffer the annual joys of
TheFlu Jab
20015 variety
:-\ :doh:

Live long and prosper, Jon ;)
(Or maybe it's a strain classified as a class 20 virus)
Many thanks Mick can you wish me............'.Live long and prosper, Jon'............ this every week as hours later I had a Euomillions prize come up.
OK it was only £12.98 but its a step in the positive direction  :beers:

Well done, Jon.

Just watch out he doesn't start charging you commission!  :D

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 11, 2015, 01:51:44 PM
Quote from: daveg on October 11, 2015, 01:28:56 PM
Quote from: jonclox on October 11, 2015, 10:31:32 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 09, 2015, 02:56:54 PM
Quote from: jonclox on October 09, 2015, 02:16:37 PM
>:(  Just been reminded that in an hours time both SWMBOd and I are due to go to the GPs den of iniquity and suffer the annual joys of
TheFlu Jab
20015 variety
:-\ :doh:

Live long and prosper, Jon ;)
(Or maybe it's a strain classified as a class 20 virus)
Many thanks Mick can you wish me............'.Live long and prosper, Jon'............ this every week as hours later I had a Euomillions prize come up.
OK it was only £12.98 but its a step in the positive direction  :beers:

Well done, Jon.

Just watch out he doesn't start charging you commission!  :D

Dave G

I reckon 10% would be fair, Dave. Payment to me only becomes due on wins over £250, otherwise a donation to the forum fighting funds ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on October 11, 2015, 02:04:24 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 11, 2015, 01:51:44 PMdonation to the forum fighting funds ;)
(Peter) You cant fight here this is a discussion forum  ;D (/Sellers)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on October 11, 2015, 07:37:32 PM
I give up, I have to figure out how to get my minitrix ivatt mogul working, after I removed the baseplate and dropped the thing , so not happy  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on October 11, 2015, 08:03:51 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 10, 2015, 03:18:10 PM

At this rate I think we may have to have a Medical Thread :hmmm:

That should have everyone in stitches  :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 11, 2015, 08:18:11 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on October 11, 2015, 08:03:51 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 10, 2015, 03:18:10 PM

At this rate I think we may have to have a Medical Thread :hmmm:

That should have everyone in stitches  :goggleeyes:

:laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing:
Oops - I think I just bust a gut laughing :smackedface:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on October 11, 2015, 08:24:13 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 11, 2015, 08:18:11 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on October 11, 2015, 08:03:51 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 10, 2015, 03:18:10 PM

At this rate I think we may have to have a Medical Thread :hmmm:

Oops - I think I just bust a gut laughing :smackedface:

Shouldn't that be in the medical thread? :sorrysign: hat coat etc.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on October 11, 2015, 08:26:04 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 11, 2015, 08:18:11 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on October 11, 2015, 08:03:51 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 10, 2015, 03:18:10 PM

At this rate I think we may have to have a Medical Thread :hmmm:

That should have everyone in stitches  :goggleeyes:

:laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing:
Oops - I think I just bust a gut laughing :smackedface:

That will only happen once the council has done the bypass  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on October 12, 2015, 03:19:47 PM
I'm fed up with flea bay sending me e-mails saying "something inspired by you" then listing loads of rubbish I have never looked at and would never buy. If they are going to send mail of this nature they could at least look at my browsing history and send stuff I might actually be interested in---Who knows I might even buy something!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 12, 2015, 03:27:07 PM
Quote from: steve836 on October 12, 2015, 03:19:47 PM
I'm fed up with flea bay sending me e-mails saying "something inspired by you"

I have to agree, it is amazing how many 'recommendations' I receive, that, at best have a vague connection to something I bought months ago - Amazon are just as bad!  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on October 13, 2015, 12:55:22 PM
Oki tech support - or lack thereof

On my OKI laser there there are setting options for weights of paper from light 64-74gsm up to ultra heavy at 177-220gsm, also settings for labels 1 and labels 2, I print quite a few labels, like brick, stone and tile downloads which I stick onto card for buildings etc.

So I thought I know labels 1 works on my printer, but what is the difference and why. So I phoned OKI tech support, they didn't know, even asked his supervisor so I sent the query by email over a week ago, today I finally got a (useless) reply

Quote
Thank you for contacting OKi tech support regarding your C531 printer.

Unfortunately I cannot help you with answering this question.
The printer is designed do be printing only on normal office paper.

Should you require to use a different type of a medium like a label paper with an adhesive please contact the manufacturer of the paper to ask for the best settings for their product as the glue used can have different properties and temperature requirements.

papers manufacturer should be able to advice what settings are best in different types and models of printers on the market. Some label papers are for instance not advised to be used in laser or LED printers as they use high temperatures to fuse the toner with the paper which can cause the adhesive to leak or to dry out.

Thank you for contacting OKi tech support regarding your C531 printer.

Unfortunately I cannot help you with answering this question.
The printer is designed do be printing only on normal office paper.

Should you require to use a different type of a medium like a label paper with an adhesive please contact the manufacturer of the paper to ask for the best settings for their product as the glue used can have different properties and temperature requirements.

papers manufacturer should be able to advice what settings are best in different types and models of printers on the market. Some label papers are for instance not advised to be used in laser or LED printers as they use high temperatures to fuse the toner with the paper which can cause the adhesive to leak or to dry out.

The label supplier (Label Planet) said "we use OKIs on setting labels 1" they also quoted the weight of their labels, separate weights fo0r the label and its backing paper, total is about 120gsm and are sold as laser labels, so obviously the adhesives are formulated to cope with the fuser temperature.

I'm surprised OKI tech support don't know the answer for one of their own machines. Surely label stock is a normal office paper, more so than say 220gsm card.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GeeBee on October 14, 2015, 12:24:12 AM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on October 13, 2015, 12:55:22 PM
Oki tech support - or lack thereof

On my OKI laser there there are setting options for weights of paper from light 64-74gsm up to ultra heavy at 177-220gsm, also settings for labels 1 and labels 2, I print quite a few labels, like brick, stone and tile downloads which I stick onto card for buildings etc.

So I thought I know labels 1 works on my printer, but what is the difference and why. So I phoned OKI tech support, they didn't know, even asked his supervisor so I sent the query by email over a week ago, today I finally got a (useless) reply

Quote
Thank you for contacting OKi tech support regarding your C531 printer.

Unfortunately I cannot help you with answering this question.
The printer is designed do be printing only on normal office paper.

Should you require to use a different type of a medium like a label paper with an adhesive please contact the manufacturer of the paper to ask for the best settings for their product as the glue used can have different properties and temperature requirements.

papers manufacturer should be able to advice what settings are best in different types and models of printers on the market. Some label papers are for instance not advised to be used in laser or LED printers as they use high temperatures to fuse the toner with the paper which can cause the adhesive to leak or to dry out.

Thank you for contacting OKi tech support regarding your C531 printer.

Unfortunately I cannot help you with answering this question.
The printer is designed do be printing only on normal office paper.

Should you require to use a different type of a medium like a label paper with an adhesive please contact the manufacturer of the paper to ask for the best settings for their product as the glue used can have different properties and temperature requirements.

papers manufacturer should be able to advice what settings are best in different types and models of printers on the market. Some label papers are for instance not advised to be used in laser or LED printers as they use high temperatures to fuse the toner with the paper which can cause the adhesive to leak or to dry out.

The label supplier (Label Planet) said "we use OKIs on setting labels 1" they also quoted the weight of their labels, separate weights fo0r the label and its backing paper, total is about 120gsm and are sold as laser labels, so obviously the adhesives are formulated to cope with the fuser temperature.

I'm surprised OKI tech support don't know the answer for one of their own machines. Surely label stock is a normal office paper, more so than say 220gsm card.

I had a similar problem with HP I asked which laser decal film i should use with their colour laser printers result was Excuse me sir what is decal film
I gave up at that point
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on October 14, 2015, 11:28:59 AM
How come when you don't want to buy certain things there seems to be a worldwide excess and you cant move for seeing things but the very moment you need one the supply vanishes and prices increase beyond reason ? :veryangry: :pmsign:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on October 14, 2015, 11:44:35 AM
Sod's law :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 14, 2015, 03:22:51 PM
Today started off with some very minor repairs to the front of my roof which was going to cost £50. When the guy removed a couple of tiles he discovered the felt inside had rotted and there were gaping holes in it, along with rotten battens. The cost went up to £450. Further inspection showed the  :censored: who fitted the soft edges (black plastic pieces which cover the sides of the roof) 2 years ago had not fitted them properly and the main batten running up the side of the roof was rotten in parts. Not only that but he'd just nailed the soft edges into the main batten using inappropriate nails. The soffits are now able to be pulled away from the batten by hand.

A couple of pics of the front................
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/15/thumb_30398.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=30398)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/15/thumb_30399.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=30399)

and a couple of the back..............
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/15/thumb_30396.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=30396)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/15/thumb_30397.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=30397)

So - to remove soft edges, remove soffits and replace everything is now 2 days work and a total cost of £1600. Luckily we have dry weather up here at present.

Am I angry?  :censored: right, I am.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on October 14, 2015, 03:36:31 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 14, 2015, 03:22:51 PM
Today started off with some very minor repairs to the front of my roof which was going to cost £50. When the guy removed a couple of tiles he discovered the felt inside had rotted and there were gaping holes in it, along with rotten battens. The cost went up to £450. Further inspection showed the  :censored: who fitted the soft edges (black plastic pieces which cover the sides of the roof) 2 years ago had not fitted them properly and the main batten running up the side of the roof was rotten in parts. Not only that but he'd just nailed the soft edges into the main batten using inappropriate nails. The soffits are now able to be pulled away from the batten by hand.

A couple of pics of the front................
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/15/thumb_30398.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=30398)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/15/thumb_30399.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=30399)

and a couple of the back..............
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/15/thumb_30396.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=30396)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/15/thumb_30397.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=30397)

So - to remove soft edges, remove soffits and replace everything is now 2 days work and a total cost of £1600. Luckily we have dry weather up here at present.

Am I angry?  :censored: right, I am.

Ouch  :( We suspected such a cost when we had roofing repairs earlier this year but got off lightly.
Bad luck mick but theres no quick/cheap fix to that its a case of biting the bullet and paying up. Its that now or in a years time it could spread to the whole roof unfortunatly
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 14, 2015, 03:44:28 PM
Sorry to hear your suffering Mick.

Owning a house is fun isn't it?!

Any chance of going after the  :censored: who caused this?

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on October 14, 2015, 04:31:03 PM
Ouch, that looks nasty,  :censored: cowboys.

Important thing is Mick, don't let it get to you and affect your heart even more. 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on October 14, 2015, 05:05:26 PM
That's not good Mick- sorry you have this to cope with on top of other stuff.

Hopefully the guy(s) you got working on the place now are 100%and will do a decent job that will last. Silly to say perhaps but try not to get too stressed.

Roofs and rising damp are the two big scary monsters about owning a house especially when they, like (in our case) the owner, is getting on a bit!  :worried:

We currently have a plague of moles. Our grass looks like the Somme. At this rate I'm going to have to get a track-laying lawnmower!!  :doh:

Dave G

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on October 14, 2015, 06:30:48 PM
Sorry to hear of the problem with your roof Mick at least your a long way from us so you won't get the Cowboys that supposedly repaired ours ,not allowed to mention his name for legal reasons .
Make sure you get the quote in writing and DONT pay up front as they say on the Tele if it's a good tradesman they have accounts at builders merchants so get all the materials on credit anyway .
Don't fret or you'll make yourself worse , look after yourself am thinking of you.
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 14, 2015, 08:40:33 PM
Quote from: daveg on October 14, 2015, 05:05:26 PM

We currently have a plague of moles. Our grass looks like the Somme. At this rate I'm going to have to get a track-laying lawnmower!!  :doh:

Dave G

I believe Jasper Carrott has a solution, Dave ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on October 14, 2015, 09:09:40 PM
So do I (and it doesn't (necessarily !)) involve Plod coming around !

Pee down the mole hills ... they dinnae like it  ::)  Just make sure no-one's watching ...  :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on October 14, 2015, 09:17:22 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 14, 2015, 08:40:33 PM
Quote from: daveg on October 14, 2015, 05:05:26 PM

We currently have a plague of moles. Our grass looks like the Somme. At this rate I'm going to have to get a track-laying lawnmower!!  :doh:

Dave G

I believe Jasper Carrott has a solution, Dave ;)

Excellent!

;D

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on October 14, 2015, 09:20:08 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on October 14, 2015, 09:09:40 PM
So do I (and it doesn't (necessarily !)) involve Plod coming around !

Pee down the mole hills ... they dinnae like it  ::)  Just make sure no-one's watching ...  :P

Cheers Mike!

What 'primer' should I use?

Bishop's Finger, Spitfire or Speckled Hen?  :pint:  :wave:

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on October 14, 2015, 09:31:49 PM
Quote from: daveg on October 14, 2015, 09:20:08 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on October 14, 2015, 09:09:40 PM
So do I (and it doesn't (necessarily !)) involve Plod coming around !

Pee down the mole hills ... they dinnae like it  ::)  Just make sure no-one's watching ...  :P

Cheers Mike!

What 'primer' should I use?

Bishop's Finger, Spitfire or Speckled Hen?  :pint:  :wave:

Dave G

Erm none of those Dave, try this, I was drinking it (amongst others) last night and we don't have Moles in our garden any more!

(http://www.cyclopsbeer.co.uk/beerimages/pumpClip4391.jpg)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on October 14, 2015, 10:13:54 PM
Well a thought I had another bargain Jubilee to add to my collection, but it arrived today and it does not work.....HELP
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on October 15, 2015, 03:22:17 AM
Quote from: paulprice on October 14, 2015, 10:13:54 PM
Well a thought I had another bargain Jubilee to add to my collection, but it arrived today and it does not work.....HELP
Threaten it with a hammer.

If you hadn't thrown that other loco away, you could have kept it around as a deterrent example.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 15, 2015, 02:42:55 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 14, 2015, 03:22:51 PM
Today started off with some very minor repairs to the front of my roof which was going to cost £50. When the guy removed a couple of tiles he discovered the felt inside had rotted and there were gaping holes in it, along with rotten battens. The cost went up to £450. Further inspection showed the  :censored: who fitted the soft edges (black plastic pieces which cover the sides of the roof) 2 years ago had not fitted them properly and the main batten running up the side of the roof was rotten in parts. Not only that but he'd just nailed the soft edges into the main batten using inappropriate nails. The soffits are now able to be pulled away from the batten by hand.


It's just got a whole lot worse :doh:
More rotten battens and holed felt have been found and the upshot is I need a complete re-roof. The unpleasant truth is that by the time the work is completed (hopefully middle next week) I will be £7500 out of pocket :o :'(
Just when I had changed my car for a new model three days ago :help:
This will curtail almost everything happening on either of my layouts other than what I already have to hand.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on October 15, 2015, 02:44:39 PM
At £7500, I take it you live in a bungalow so have no one to go halves with.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 15, 2015, 02:49:10 PM
Ouch!! £7500  :goggleeyes: I am surprised we can not see the tear drops on the post. The only consolation is that, once it is done, you should not have any more problems with the roof for a long time.  :) David.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on October 15, 2015, 05:39:34 PM
Oh  :poop:!

That's a helluva chunk of cash from anybody's' point of view.

Sympathies Mick

Dave G

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dr Al on October 15, 2015, 05:50:03 PM
Quote from: paulprice on October 14, 2015, 10:13:54 PM
Well a thought I had another bargain Jubilee to add to my collection, but it arrived today and it does not work.....HELP

Have you connected power up direct to the motor? If it's a new Farish one the drawbar contact wires can often get bent such that they don't quite make contact (even it they look like they are. Worth a look...

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 15, 2015, 06:37:52 PM
 :o

Nobby really sorry to hear that.

Hope it does get sorted by next week, with minimal fuss.

Small silver lining is that it didn't fall in / off.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on October 15, 2015, 07:20:29 PM
Sorry to hear of your troubles ,Nobby, any chance of locating the cowboy, taking him to court and getting him to cough up?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 15, 2015, 08:47:33 PM
Thank you to all who have offered their sympathies. I can't go after any builder as, at the end of the day, it is one builder's word against another's. However, the way it was explained to me it would appear the soft edges were fitted incorrectly. Looking at the extent of the damage it would seem the problem has been going on for much longer though.

Quote from: Malc on October 15, 2015, 02:44:39 PM
At £7500, I take it you live in a bungalow so have no one to go halves with.

It's a semi detached bungalow, Malc. Not sure why anyone would want to go halves if they don't have any issues with their roof ???

Looking on the bright side, I didn't trade my car in for a new VW diesel :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on October 15, 2015, 11:48:24 PM
Quote from: Dr Al on October 15, 2015, 05:50:03 PM
Quote from: paulprice on October 14, 2015, 10:13:54 PM
Well a thought I had another bargain Jubilee to add to my collection, but it arrived today and it does not work.....HELP

Have you connected power up direct to the motor? If it's a new Farish one the drawbar contact wires can often get bent such that they don't quite make contact (even it they look like they are. Worth a look...

Cheers,
Alan

Alan

your a star, the locomotive is alive, alive, alive  :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dr Al on October 16, 2015, 01:51:52 AM
Quote from: paulprice on October 15, 2015, 11:48:24 PM
your a star, the locomotive is alive, alive, alive  :D :D :D :D

Time to move to the happy thread  :D  :D :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on October 16, 2015, 12:29:44 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 15, 2015, 02:42:55 PM

It's just got a whole lot worse :doh:
More rotten battens and holed felt have been found and the upshot is I need a complete re-roof.
,
Looking on the bright side, I didn't trade my car in for a new VW diesel
Oh dear ! It seems we have more in common than the state of our hearts !
This is what happened after a whacking great hole appeared in mine
(showing approx 1/10th of the job ! previously shown in the "Crazy Weather" thread )
,
I traded in an unused car as part payment for the roofing job !
(no VW dealers were hurt in the transaction :)  )

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/81786082/NG/50757roof.jpg)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on October 17, 2015, 11:49:05 AM
 :-[ :-[ Stop laughing ......... Its not funny but I decided to have a nice long relaxing bath this morning. Plenty of time to soak, clean and ponder everything  :ngauge: and the world. Now I didn't go to sleep. I just relaxed and meditated. Fortunately I had ............ as usual taken cordless door bell alarm and 2 types of inhaler in the bathroom with me.
Eventually the water got to cool for comfort and it was time to empty the bath and get dry and dressed......here follows the non funny bit !
I was stuck. My legs were nothing better than jelly and even with the bath having grab handles I just couldnt grab and pull myself up onto my knees and get myself organised.
In the end I called Ann up and between us I managed to get out.
No baths will ever be the same again  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on October 17, 2015, 03:30:52 PM
Could have been worse Jon, a pal of mine was luxuriating in his corner bath. When it was time to get out he hit the little lever by the taps to drain the water. This lifted a plunger in the middle of the bath and his 2 dangley bits got sucked in. He had to try and pull himself free against the suction, as dropping the plunger could have had disastrous consequences. His wife heard the screaming and dashed into the bathroom, to find him standing there, white as a sheet and shaking.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 17, 2015, 08:54:25 PM
Quote from: Malc on October 17, 2015, 03:30:52 PM
Could have been worse Jon, a pal of mine was luxuriating in his corner bath. When it was time to get out he hit the little lever by the taps to drain the water. This lifted a plunger in the middle of the bath and his 2 dangley bits got sucked in. He had to try and pull himself free against the suction, as dropping the plunger could have had disastrous consequences. His wife heard the screaming and dashed into the bathroom, to find him standing there, white as a sheet and shaking.

OMG!!!!!
I'm so pleased I only have a shower unit :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on October 17, 2015, 09:03:53 PM
I remember years ago this article (https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=a9hgb5uSVF8C&pg=PA224&lpg=PA224&dq=new+scientist+penis+vacuum+cleaner&source=bl&ots=vSV-xxAC6P&sig=EHEJOfZfvek4XVbaJeyB1NHJCT0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CDUQ6AEwAWoVChMIhMm6y6XKyAIVxtgaCh1_KQmA#v=onepage&q=new%20scientist%20penis%20vacuum%20cleaner&f=false) in the New Scientist about men getting certain bits of their anatomy caught in vacuum cleaners.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on October 18, 2015, 09:26:55 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 17, 2015, 08:54:25 PM
Quote from: Malc on October 17, 2015, 03:30:52 PM
Could have been worse Jon, a pal of mine was luxuriating in his corner bath. When it was time to get out he hit the little lever by the taps to drain the water. This lifted a plunger in the middle of the bath and his 2 dangley bits got sucked in. He had to try and pull himself free against the suction, as dropping the plunger could have had disastrous consequences. His wife heard the screaming and dashed into the bathroom, to find him standing there, white as a sheet and shaking.

OMG!!!!!
I'm so pleased I only have a shower unit :o
We also have a shower unit over the bath but theres nothing like a long hot soak in the bath  :thumbsup: It gives one a chance to think about 'things' and putting the world to rights  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ozzie Bill. on October 18, 2015, 11:00:30 AM
Don't know where this fits rightly, whether angry - at myself - or happy at the result. Stuck an electric drill through my finger and bumped the boney thing inside. Hurt a fair bit, so my adoring wife took me to A&E and they kept me waiting 2 hours, which is fair as there were people there who were really ill, I mean, one guy had a jolly bad headache LOL.
Still, gorgeous blonde Doc, from Kent, fixed me up, so all's well. Now reduced to typing with only one finger, as the misadventure has temporarily ruined my other typing finger. Still I type slowly anyway as I know a few of you read very slowly. :laugh3: :D :angel:
Cheers, Bill.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on October 18, 2015, 11:02:21 AM
Ouch, hope it heals up quickly as I hate reading slowly!   :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ozzie Bill. on October 18, 2015, 11:40:06 AM
Sory but I think the typing improvement will be a few days away! To cap it off, I have about 85 assignments to mark, all on line, in the next week, so that will slow me up a fair bit!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on October 18, 2015, 01:17:35 PM
Quote from: ozzie Bill. on October 18, 2015, 11:00:30 AMStill I type slowly anyway as I know a few of you read very slowly. :laugh3: :D :angel:
:laughabovepost:
au contraire,
what slows me up is finding where I last put my specs before I can start reading quick  ;D

Ouch, poor Bill,
hope it wasnt the one you use to hold your beer glass, you know - the finger you stick thro' the handle to stop it slipping to the ground.



Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tom U on October 18, 2015, 02:03:08 PM
Ozzies don't have handles on their beer glasses. There is no need as the glasses are only the size of the thimbles that ladies use for needlework.  ;D
(flak jacket on)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ozzie Bill. on October 18, 2015, 09:50:48 PM
That's because our beer is strong, unlike some brews, Tom! :D
Cheers, Bill.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on October 20, 2015, 12:02:27 PM
Well today I have fallen out with myself, so we are not talking, to me.  :worried:

It all started on the way back from the Warrington exhibition, when I innocently remarked that I must get a lighting rig finished for the layout to the Domestic Overlord. The DO then said this would be a big job and would need some thought in their opinion, to which I replied "Not really its simple I just need to go to IKEA".... :'( :'(

BANG THE TRAP WAS SRUNG, I actually suggested, by my own volition that I would go to IKEA, what have I done, why am I so stupid? oh the inhumanity of it all.

I am of the firm belief that its not actually a Scandinavian Furnishing Store, but a cunningly disguised Scandinavian open prison, to which the really serious criminals are forced to wear yellow and blue prison uniforms, which we the short term (20 years plus) inmates mistake as shop assistants.

The just keep endlessly walking around the one way system (which is literally the road to hell) as they slowly complete their sentences, for crimes that must be earth shattering to deserve such punishment.

Then there are the customers, which are just convicts that have been assessed and sentenced by the most evil court regime in the world, their OWN FAMILES for crimes they cant even remember committing, but are despatched to STALAG LUFT IKEA to get a light bulb or a candle or something equally mundane only to fall victim to this evil place. I'm on to them, they don't actually have older customers, they are just former young ones, who have not yet found the exit, and have aged with time as they constantly plod round, carrying the modern version of manacles (the 3 pack energy saving bulbs), and a lost look of despair on their faces.

AND I HAVE VOLUNTEERED TO HAVE MYSELF added to the roll call of the doomed  :'( :'( :'( Well have no fear no prison can hold me for long, as soon as I discover the stupid name for the flat packed escape tunnel I know they must sell I will be out..........................................................................................
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on October 20, 2015, 03:09:49 PM
Quite understand the fit of pique, PP.

Sadly, you will find that the item required is currently out of stock other than in the Brent Cross store which, in my experience, is the place of the doomed, bewildered and lost vehicle.

Should you ever discover the electrically driven revolving door (that stops the moment a 2 year old touches it) you'll spend another 2 days looking for where (you think) you parked your car/van/pickup. Not sure if they have a bike rack but if they did you'd never find it twice.

If the Escape Plan succeeds, there is Staples Corner to negotiate. That can take another hour or so. When I worked on said Corner you either fled the office at 16:48 to avoid the 17:00 'rush' or worked till 18:00 or later. Lads selling the Evening News used to walk down between the rows of queuing cars. The number of cryptic crosswords completed at that joyful junction must run to many thousands.

Deep joy. Take a deep breath and order something suitable online!

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on October 20, 2015, 08:58:44 PM
You won't get any sympathy here  :P

There is never a situation where you HAVE to go to Ikea, in fact is there ever a situation where you WANT to go to Ikea let alone have to? ???

Only ever went there once (long time ago, under protest), and never would again. Boring overpriced furniture, badly laid out store, and full of people as dull and boring as the furniture!


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on October 20, 2015, 09:11:16 PM
I just KNEW someone would mention the meatballs!  :smiley-laughing:

I didn't rate them, tasteless and spongey  :thumbsdown:

If you think Ikea meatballs are good then you've clearly never had the ones from R+E Family Butcher in Letchworth  :food:


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on October 20, 2015, 09:17:26 PM
I've only been in Ikea a couple of times to buy a lamp and a storage box, took half an hour to
find the cash desk and another half hour to find the exit. Gawd knows how these people get on
when buying a complete fitted bedroom with all the doors, mirrors,drawers , runners etc.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: JasonBz on October 20, 2015, 09:35:45 PM
I've never been in an IKEA store and it seems I've not missed a lot  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 20, 2015, 10:01:46 PM
Like Jason, I have never been to Ikea and although I quite like meatballs, I don't think I will be going having read what other posters have put  :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on October 20, 2015, 10:03:35 PM
I have a cunning plan. My wife and daughter like Ikea so whenever we visit said daughter I just happen to mention that we need some wine glasses or something else which is available there and off they trot and I get a few hours peace and quiet!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: javlinfaw7 on October 20, 2015, 10:45:40 PM
Preparation is all that is required for a visit to Ikea, know the layout , know where what your looking for is and know the short cuts ,do not follow the lay out you will only spend more . Using this approach and self service tills I can normally be in and out in ten minutes

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on October 21, 2015, 03:47:44 AM
Quote from: javlinfaw7 on October 20, 2015, 10:45:40 PM
Preparation is all that is required for a visit to Ikea, know the layout , know where what your looking for is and know the short cuts ,do not follow the lay out you will only spend more . Using this approach and self service tills I can normally be in and out in ten minutes
You forget to mention that you should go alone. Better halves will always find something in need of inspection.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on October 21, 2015, 10:56:29 AM
I guess we are lucky in as much as we don't have a local Ikea. The nearest is about 25-30 miles away and we don't travel well  :(
But we do have a useless B&Q locally which only stocks items that you cant find or don't want and warped timber. The staff there might be Ikea rejects and specialise in knowing nothing and the guy who does is off sick today  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on October 21, 2015, 12:31:00 PM
There was a guy wandering around Ikea, when approached by a salesperson. "Can I help you sir?". "I'm looking for a map". "I'm sorry, we don't sell maps. Where were you looking to go?". "The perishing exit!!"
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 21, 2015, 12:37:42 PM
 :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on October 21, 2015, 12:44:37 PM
Quote from: jonclox on October 21, 2015, 10:56:29 AM
a useless B&Q
<buzzzzzz> Repetition !  "useless" and "B&Q"
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on October 21, 2015, 04:01:57 PM
We got around to proving the theory this afternoon.............. A quick trip down to B&Q for some timber to  make layout legs. Ended up having to buy a saw and 2 massive lengths of timber  :hmmm:
Son then proceeded to  saw into 3 pieces each out in the car park as they had nobody in store to do it for us  :veryangry:
What a surprise ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MinZaPint on October 21, 2015, 06:26:47 PM
Best meatballs I've had was in a tapas bar in Areciffe Lanzarotte the attractive lady running the place had nothing to do with it, honest :angel: sorry should have posted in the happy thread  ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on October 21, 2015, 07:00:56 PM
Quote from: jonclox on October 21, 2015, 04:01:57 PM
We got around to proving the theory this afternoon.............. A quick trip down to B&Q for some timber to  make layout legs. Ended up having to buy a saw and 2 massive lengths of timber  :hmmm:
Son then proceeded to  saw into 3 pieces each out in the car park as they had nobody in store to do it for us  :veryangry:
What a surprise ?
If I need a tape measure or a saw, I just borrow one and put it back after. I did have an issue with the checkout when I only wanted to scan 2 pieces of wood and I had 4.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on October 21, 2015, 07:13:53 PM
Quote from: Malc on October 21, 2015, 07:00:56 PM
If I need a tale measure
Now I know some people on here like to spin tall tales, but isn't this taking action against them to an extreme  ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on October 21, 2015, 08:50:49 PM
At least it wasn't also 'sore'
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on October 24, 2015, 11:21:23 AM
Its not Fair !!
Seems like we are only half way through this month and  already tonight we have to put the clock back an hour and loose some sleep in the morning.
I guess the Scots and Picts have made their own arrangements  but us poor southerners get clobbered yet again. ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on October 24, 2015, 11:47:28 AM
Quote from: jonclox on October 24, 2015, 11:21:23 AM
Its not Fair !!
Seems like we are only half way through this month and  already tonight we have to put the clock back an hour and loose some sleep in the morning.
I guess the Scots and Picks have made their own arrangements  but us poor southerners get clobbered yet again. ;)

Its because of those awkward so-and-sos north of the border that we have to put up with it. Our govt. wanted to change clocks in line with rest of Europe to give more useful daylight in winter but the Picts and Scots whinged so much that the idea was scrapped.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on October 24, 2015, 11:52:29 AM
Quote from: jonclox on October 24, 2015, 11:21:23 AM

Seems like we are only half way through this month and  already tonight we have to put the clock back an hour and loose some sleep in the morning.


Not sure about you but I'm having an extra hour in bed in the morning.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on October 24, 2015, 11:58:23 AM
Quite right John- Its in the spring we lose sleep
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: JasonBz on October 24, 2015, 12:10:45 PM
Spring Forward - Fall Back (into bed! :D )
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on October 24, 2015, 12:22:47 PM
As a matter of interest, how do our non-European friends do it? Do they play about with the clocks in Japan,Oz or USA?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on October 24, 2015, 12:23:26 PM
Quote from: JasonBz on October 24, 2015, 12:10:45 PM
(into bed! :D )
^ I like it !

It used to confuse me, now with all my clocks 'sept one either radio controlled or internetted I dont know that anything changed when I wake up.
The exception is the one old fashioned synchronous off the mains type with real hands, yes hands in the plural, two hour hands one black and one white for when I am playing amateur radio and astronomy, one points to UTC (GMT) and the other BST.

What makes me really angry is our civil authorities trying to play god with the natural order of things, why cant they leave things alone ? Confuses the cows at milking time as well  ;D duh?!


Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tom U on October 24, 2015, 12:27:26 PM
I spend so much time travelling and crossing time zones, I keep a spreadsheet of positive and negative hours to see if I am in credit or debit.
When the reaper calls, I shall check with St. Peter at the pearly gates to make sure I got all my alloted hours  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on October 24, 2015, 12:34:37 PM
 :laughabovepost:
I think you will find that there is a "force majeure" get-out in the contract.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: JasonBz on October 24, 2015, 12:37:08 PM
Quote from: steve836 on October 24, 2015, 12:22:47 PM
As a matter of interest, how do our non-European friends do it? Do they play about with the clocks in Japan,Oz or USA?

Japan and China don't (though I think China only has one time zone anyway  :goggleeyes:)
Australia does in parts and the USA does.
Its mainly countries around the Tropics that don't, as there is no real need when every day is virtually the same length...

http://www.webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/g.html (http://www.webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/g.html)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on October 24, 2015, 12:38:38 PM
Here in Australia, I play around with the clocks all the time.

I seem to be forever puttin' new batteries in 'em.  ;D ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on October 24, 2015, 01:13:36 PM
Quote from: steve836 on October 24, 2015, 12:22:47 PM
As a matter of interest, how do our non-European friends do it? Do they play about with the clocks in Japan,Oz or USA?
No daylight saving here in Japan. On the other hand it is a nation with quite a wide east-west spread, which means to squeeze it all into one timezone involves very early mornings in summer, in Tokyo at least. I'd certainly prefer to shift things about so that there's more daylight in the evening rather than silly o'clock in the morning. At least we don't get those short dark cold northern European winter days...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jon898 on October 24, 2015, 02:44:41 PM
Quote from: steve836 on October 24, 2015, 12:22:47 PM
As a matter of interest, how do our non-European friends do it? Do they play about with the clocks in Japan,Oz or USA?

Most states in the US go through this fiasco twice each year (as proposed by Ben Franklin to "save candles").  There are exceptions...Hawaii and Arizona for example (and Puerto Rico which is a Commonwealth but not a state despite moves to make it one).  To complicate matters, some states have different rules by county and if you don't know which county you're in it can cause all sorts of confusion...Indiana is the poster child for this.  For a while, Indiana had no "Daylight Savings Time", then Mitch Daniels was elected governor partly on the ticket to move the whole state to the Central time zone (previously most was in the Eastern zone) and include DST; in a bunch of political horse trading and polemics ("If we stay in the Eastern zone, we'll have a better economy because we'll be in the same zone as New York"  :doh:  ...tell that to Chicago and Los Angeles), this was changed to incorporating DST but leaving most counties in the Eastern zone and allowing some counties to go to the Central zone but different counties than before!  If you want to have a boring argument on the subject of DST and time zones, all you need to do is gather 3 Hoosiers together and get them launched.  I lived there through the Daniels change which resulted in kids going to school in the dark for 90%+ of the year...but people could play golf in the evening for over half the year.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tdm on October 24, 2015, 03:34:23 PM
Nothing to do with time - but I am angry with myself for somehow getting my wires crossed on the new car stereo I have just bought, which resulted in a large bang from inside the device and some fried components.

The new stereo came with an ISO connector and my Stag uses completely different types of connectors, so I had to cut & spice wires to join the two together and something went wrong somewhere.

At least it wasn't an engine that went bang, the stereo was cheaper, but looks like I'm going to have to buy another one as I don't think the shop will accept me returning the one I blew.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on October 26, 2015, 09:00:53 AM
Quote from: Zwilnik on October 19, 2012, 11:51:26 PM
The Windows 'fault with your computer' phone call is a scam.
Yeah, yeah, it's a 3-y-o post - so sue me  ::)

Just a 'bump' as I had one of these this morning (first time in absolutely ages !  At least a year !  I thought I'd upset them, or something  >:D), they're currently doing 'an advisory call' as they're getting 'messages from your computer' and need to 'verify your license, else we will have to cancel it'.  Indian or Pakistani accent, this one, no doubt we'll get others too.

Had the bugger going for over 5 minutes, even asked how Debian Linux was sending MS any messages instead of to Debian (that threw him >:D) before getting bored (I'm coming down with flu, so not feeling too well :( - otherwise might have spun him for longer; my record is around 20 minutes :D) & telling him to shove his own computer up his  :censored: ... he hung up on me - I was most upset ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on October 26, 2015, 10:50:13 AM
Quote from: MikeDunn on October 26, 2015, 09:00:53 AM
- so sue me  ::)
Dear onnerable Sir,
I am most willing to help you with this very interesting enterprise.
However my lawyer is currently on holiday in Nigeria and does not have the funds available to return immediately.
If you could send me , , ,
,
and I assure you most sincerely that when this project succeeds I will be able to repay you with a very very big reward.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on October 26, 2015, 11:39:41 AM
Yippee  :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on October 27, 2015, 07:43:34 AM
Quote from: MikeDunn on October 26, 2015, 09:00:53 AM
Had the bugger going for over 5 minutes, even asked how Debian Linux was sending MS any messages instead of to Debian
Are you running unstable? Tried running dpkg -s ms-cortana?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mr bachmann on October 27, 2015, 03:14:28 PM
after we went through the lights last night we left Cleveleys just about 10 past ten , stopping at Kirkby Stephen for the usual drinks in - and out ! , returning home around 2am (steady ride home , after all 1950's headlights  :D) ,
so whats  angry ... only that plod decided to pull me over and do the usual vehicle check and name address and all , it was only our local beat bobby and his apprentice - they both knew  me and the car , and I was only about 200 yards from home  :veryangry:

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on October 27, 2015, 07:55:37 PM
Are you sending this message from jail ?

If so, "Good Luck",


Joe
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 27, 2015, 08:24:44 PM
When they asked your profession, I trust you replied "Professional Decoy" ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on October 27, 2015, 08:34:59 PM
About 20 years ago I got stopped by a bobby in a pub car park in Reading before I'd taken the wheel of my vehicule.

He asked me how many pints I'd had, to which I replied "2" (the truth).

He then asked me to breath in his face, which I did, and he confirmed that "that smells like 2 pints" and allowed to leave in my car.

I hope that that police in Berkshire are still as pragmatic.

Best regards,


Joe
P.S. I got home safely
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on October 28, 2015, 12:18:57 AM
A long time ago when I was 20, I used to get stopped all the time on my Triumph Boneville, I got stopped 3 times one night trying to get home, not speeding or anything. Mind it might have been the fact that I was and still am 5' nothing and at that time looked about 12 which didn't help.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on October 28, 2015, 07:32:04 AM
Right time for a rant....(yes another one)

On the weekend I had to get a new pair of jeans, simple I thought. Once I had found a shop, where the actual assistants had their trousers around their waste, and not around their knees  ???.

Then one, were the assistants not only had their pants at a normal height, but also has a semi sensible haircut (I mean as a kid if our mum's cut our hair like some of the styles on display, we would have got beaten to death on the streets for looking odd  :goggleeyes:)

Anyway one inside the store the Ninja warrior cunningly disguised as a assistant, must have lowered himself from the ceiling or something, as he just appeared (not even with a puff of smoke, must be cut backs). Getting a little too close for comfort he then asked what I wanted.

So I politely told him, to which he asked me if I wanted "hipsters" or "baggies" and various other things I had not idea about what he was on about. So I repeated in simple terms what I wanted and that I needed an "unfinished leg", to which he remarked "how can we sell jeans if the legs aren't finished"  :doh:

So keeping my anger at bay, I conceded and said in that case could I have a 34" inside leg, "Lush" was his remark as he toddled off to get them, when he returned with the jeans they had a 29" inside leg (I am not a hobbit, im only 6'7")  :veryangry:

Anyway he told me it was a trendy look, as being a Fashion leader I bought them, as mother always says "its better to be a leader than a follower". So it anyone see's me out and about with my new jeans on and my M&S wangers on prominent display I AM A FASHION GOD  :-[ :-[

Though I think if they were any shorter you could tell me religion,  :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on October 28, 2015, 07:38:03 AM
Excellent PP!

Made my morning that did.  :thumbsup:

Dave G (AKA 29" IL Hobbit ;))
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on October 28, 2015, 08:07:22 AM
Quote from: daveg on October 28, 2015, 07:38:03 AM
Excellent PP!

Made my morning that did.  :thumbsup:

Dave G (AKA 29" IL Hobbit ;))

I'm sure I'm developing a "cat walk" I think the jeans are too tight
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on October 28, 2015, 08:58:21 AM
Quote from: paulprice on October 28, 2015, 07:32:04 AM
they had a 29" inside leg (I am not a hobbit, im only 6'7")  :veryangry:
Quote from: daveg on October 28, 2015, 07:38:03 AM
Dave G (AKA 29" IL Hobbit ;))

Paul,

You should sell them to Dave  :D  You might even make a profit  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on October 28, 2015, 09:03:44 AM
Quote from: MikeDunn on October 28, 2015, 08:58:21 AM
Quote from: paulprice on October 28, 2015, 07:32:04 AM
they had a 29" inside leg (I am not a hobbit, im only 6'7")  :veryangry:
Quote from: daveg on October 28, 2015, 07:38:03 AM
Dave G (AKA 29" IL Hobbit ;))

Paul,

You should sell them to Dave  :D  You might even make a profit  ;)

:laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on October 28, 2015, 09:18:31 AM
Quote from: daveg on October 28, 2015, 09:03:44 AM
Quote from: MikeDunn on October 28, 2015, 08:58:21 AM
Quote from: paulprice on October 28, 2015, 07:32:04 AM
they had a 29" inside leg (I am not a hobbit, im only 6'7")  :veryangry:
Quote from: daveg on October 28, 2015, 07:38:03 AM
Dave G (AKA 29" IL Hobbit ;))

Paul,

You should sell them to Dave  :D  You might even make a profit  ;)

:laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:

Dave G
I could start a chain of shops called "STUMPTY STYLES"  :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 28, 2015, 09:42:58 AM
Just tell people your shoes have had an argument with your jeans, Paul ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on October 28, 2015, 10:52:53 AM
You could always sew some tartan around the bottom and start a Bay City Rollers revival.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 28, 2015, 10:54:50 AM
Quote from: Malc on October 28, 2015, 10:52:53 AM
You could always sew some tartan around the bottom and start a Bay City Rollers revival.

:laughabovepost:
You'll never get 'Shang-a-lang' out of your head now >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 28, 2015, 10:58:15 AM
 :D

What's wrong with £10.00 Jeans from Tesco? On a good day I have found £5.00 ones?!

In the year and a bit I have had my house I have spilt enough corrosive liquids on them to know any more money is wasted....(see black jeans with orange bleach marks for further details).

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on October 28, 2015, 11:02:04 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 28, 2015, 10:54:50 AM
Quote from: Malc on October 28, 2015, 10:52:53 AM
You could always sew some tartan around the bottom and start a Bay City Rollers revival.

:laughabovepost:
You'll never get 'Shang-a-lang' out of your head now >:D
It wasn't there until you mentioned it!! At least it isn't "bye bye baby". Da**, there it goes. Goodbye.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on October 28, 2015, 11:28:24 AM
Quote from: Malc on October 28, 2015, 10:52:53 AM
You could always sew some tartan around the bottom and start a Bay City Rollers revival.
But that would have to be in the "vintage flared" style, instead of their presently(?) Narrow style. And then we would have to subject him to moderation, or worse.
;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 28, 2015, 12:26:16 PM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on October 28, 2015, 11:28:24 AM
Quote from: Malc on October 28, 2015, 10:52:53 AM
You could always sew some tartan around the bottom and start a Bay City Rollers revival.
But that would have to be in the "vintage flared" style, instead of their presently(?) Narrow style. And then we would have to subject him to moderation, or worse.
;D

Sounds to me like certain parts of Paul's body are subject to moderation right now :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on October 28, 2015, 12:31:46 PM
Quote from: paulprice on October 28, 2015, 09:18:31 AM
Quote from: daveg on October 28, 2015, 09:03:44 AM
Quote from: MikeDunn on October 28, 2015, 08:58:21 AM
Quote from: paulprice on October 28, 2015, 07:32:04 AM
they had a 29" inside leg (I am not a hobbit, im only 6'7")  :veryangry:
Quote from: daveg on October 28, 2015, 07:38:03 AM
Dave G (AKA 29" IL Hobbit ;))

Paul,

You should sell them to Dave  :D  You might even make a profit  ;)

:laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:

Dave G
I could start a chain of shops called "STUMPTY STYLES"  :P

I resemble that heightist remark.

Now, what's my lawyer's phone number?  :hmmm:

Dave G

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on October 28, 2015, 03:36:19 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 28, 2015, 12:26:16 PM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on October 28, 2015, 11:28:24 AM
Quote from: Malc on October 28, 2015, 10:52:53 AM
You could always sew some tartan around the bottom and start a Bay City Rollers revival.
But that would have to be in the "vintage flared" style, instead of their presently(?) Narrow style. And then we would have to subject him to moderation, or worse.
;D

Sounds to me like certain parts of Paul's body are subject to moderation right now :worried:

What parts???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on October 28, 2015, 03:40:09 PM
Quote from: daveg on October 28, 2015, 12:31:46 PM
Quote from: paulprice on October 28, 2015, 09:18:31 AM
Quote from: daveg on October 28, 2015, 09:03:44 AM
Quote from: MikeDunn on October 28, 2015, 08:58:21 AM
Quote from: paulprice on October 28, 2015, 07:32:04 AM
they had a 29" inside leg (I am not a hobbit, im only 6'7")  :veryangry:
Quote from: daveg on October 28, 2015, 07:38:03 AM
Dave G (AKA 29" IL Hobbit ;))

Paul,

You should sell them to Dave  :D  You might even make a profit  ;)

:laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:

Dave G
I could start a chain of shops called "STUMPTY STYLES"  :P

I resemble that heightist remark.

Now, what's my lawyer's phone number?  :hmmm:

Dave G

Im not heightist far from it, in fact I would love to see eye to eye with the for want of a better term "vertically challenged" or stumpies as they are also know, but with my bad back I should not be stooping down to such low levels,  :angel:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 28, 2015, 08:25:15 PM
Quote from: paulprice on October 28, 2015, 03:36:19 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on October 28, 2015, 12:26:16 PM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on October 28, 2015, 11:28:24 AM
Quote from: Malc on October 28, 2015, 10:52:53 AM
You could always sew some tartan around the bottom and start a Bay City Rollers revival.
But that would have to be in the "vintage flared" style, instead of their presently(?) Narrow style. And then we would have to subject him to moderation, or worse.
;D

Sounds to me like certain parts of Paul's body are subject to moderation right now :worried:

What parts???

Quote from: paulprice on October 28, 2015, 08:07:22 AM

I'm sure I'm developing a "cat walk" I think the jeans are too tight

The new jeans seem to affect your memory as well ;D :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on October 30, 2015, 10:46:28 AM
Getting our act together at about 9 A.M today was  surprised by a knock at the front door and when we answered it was confronted by 2 PC plods  :worried: :o. After a lot of prying it seems that youngest son phoned them regarding an incident that had occurred at home  and he gave our address as a home address instead of where he and his girlfriend live. We gave plod an update on his domestic arrangements  and they went off to find him hopefully  there.
Turns out his 'beloved' had slammed a car door into his back.
emailed him immediately and asked what the **** was going on. He then told us about the car door etc.
It would seem that he is a battered husband and is only holding things together for the kids.
Gawd knows whats going to happen next  ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 30, 2015, 08:09:10 PM
So sorry to hear that, Jon :(
It's something not heard about very often but I do know it happens and hope somehow your son can get through it all.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on October 30, 2015, 08:18:59 PM
That has happened to two people I know. One lad I worked with and the first I knew of it was when he turned up on my doorstep needing somewhere safe to stay for a few days. It was a terrible time with the police involved at all hours of the night. So I feel for your son and for you.

Hope it sorts itself soon.

John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 09, 2015, 03:36:52 PM
Was meant to see a heart consultant at the Chest Clinic at Preston Hospital today but, having driven 5 times and 1½ hours round the hospital trying to find somewhere to park I had to give up (appointments are evidently only available during visiting hours). I tried to phone the 'appointment line' 4 times but couldn't get through while I was sitting there in the car picking fluff from my navel (a man's gotta have something to do). Got back home after a trip on the M6 where I'd have been better off with an outboard motor than my little turbocharged 999cc thingy and finally got through to the appointment line to let them know I did try to get there. The guy was very understanding and gave me the direct number for the Chest Clinic. Trouble was, they'd changed it so much toing & froing occurred. I now have to wait for another appointment with the consultant.
I'm sure as hell more steamed up than the car was, and am starting to wish we had a 'Hopping Mad' or 'Downright Furious' thread.
:censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored:

P.S. Yeah - hospital visits are bad for your blood pressure/heart ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on November 09, 2015, 03:57:42 PM
Blimey Mick! That's what I'd call 'A Very Bad Day'.

Hope you get a new appt soon and that you can somehow sort out a parking spot.

Any point in looking for a nearby non-hospital car park and taking a (short) cab ride to the clinic?

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 09, 2015, 04:05:18 PM
Quote from: daveg on November 09, 2015, 03:57:42 PM

Any point in looking for a nearby non-hospital car park and taking a (short) cab ride to the clinic?

Dave G

There's a supermarket not too far away but parking is, of course, limited to 2 hours and, let's face it, once you actually get into the damned hospital who knows when you'd get out?
Once I have the revised date through I'll see whether I can get one of my sisters to drop me off. They can then go shopping for the day until I whistle them up again :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on November 09, 2015, 04:34:06 PM
Stair lift went wrong Thursday evening and wouldn't swing round at the top of the stairs for me to get off easily so Friday morning we phone up and ask for a service call our (its FOC) for later in the day. About four o`clock the guy turns up and once I demonstraight  the fault he set about fixing things............or not  :doh:>  In the end he decided that the PC board under the seat was at fault and.........He hadn't got one :hmmm: At least he put everything back so that by struggling I could clamber on it upstairs and come down in the usual way. He contacted HQ to get a new board and would get someone to call over the weekend or today at the latest.
BY 9-30 This morning we had heard nothing so  phoned HQ again...........They are having to get one made up as they are out of stock
10 AM the phone rings its HQ............. they are getting some made and the earliest arrival and fitting will be on the nineteenth of this month.
I am not amused and my hip hurts like **** very time I use the thing and is nearly locked up solid every morning
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: port perran on November 09, 2015, 05:05:32 PM
It's always the same. Nothing ever goes to plan.
You simply cannot rely on any companies these days.

I lease my car as I'm a Driving Instructor and replace my car yearly. New car arranged for delivery Friday (last week). On Monday (a week ago) the Lease Company 'phone with Registration Number of New Car so I can insure it.
Great - I phone Insurance Company . No problem they say....will fax Cover Note to Lease company immediately.
Next Day, Lease Company phone me .....No fax received.
Phone Insurance Company - Oh sorry - apologies - we'll send it now.
Next Day (this is Wednesday), Lease Company phone - no fax.
Phone Insurance Company - huge apologies. We'll send it now.
Which they did but did it really need so many 'phone calls.
Just complete Incometence and in reality - They couldn't give  a damn (as long as they get their money).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on November 10, 2015, 01:20:35 AM
I feel for you guys having so much trouble especially Mick, the hospital car park thing is a joke. The hospital in Bury where I go for my checkup they had a masssive pay meter car park which they have now made staff only. You end driving round looking for a space,I was lucky last time. You can not park in the local streets they have been made pass holder/residents only and they make my appointment early so I can not even use my bus pass. I do not want to ask for a later appoinment because then you risk being there all day, you can't win.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: javlinfaw7 on November 10, 2015, 03:19:28 AM
Due to the opening of a new super hospital Glasgow City Council wish to make our area permit only , you would have to apply for a permit costing £50 per annum per car with visitors paying £2 per visit of up to 6 hrs ,up to two per house , local businesses would be charged £700 per annum per vehicle and all this for no garranteed space.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trent on November 12, 2015, 12:16:09 AM
Good wishes to those having health problems. You'd think a stair-lift company would be more on the ball considering what their job is.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on November 12, 2015, 09:38:25 AM
Quote from: Trent on November 12, 2015, 12:16:09 AM
Good wishes to those having health problems. You'd think a stair-lift company would be more on the ball considering what their job is.
Agreed and  I bet if I ordered a new one it could be delivered almost at once.
They could even have a 'pre-used ' one in stock that they could rob out for the time being
Although its still awkward I have found a way to get on and off it at the top without   hurting my hip. Im not going tell them that though  :-X
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on November 15, 2015, 09:30:46 AM
  :( :doh: :censored: *$")_&$£ Just had to start taking the 1st course of steroids this autumn. Last dose I took was back in July and I was hoping to get into next year without starting off again   :-\
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 20, 2015, 10:43:15 AM
Just been for an ultrasound on my neck. Quite why I had to drive a 60 mile round trip in the rush hour to Blackpool I don't know, as they do ultrasounds at Chorley Hospital which is just 5 miles down the road. They could then have sent the results to the consultant in Blackpool.
I guess everything is done for their convenience and not the public :unimpressed:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on November 20, 2015, 05:05:45 PM
Jon you have my sympathy, just got back from the quacks with prescriptions for a 6 week course of steroids and a 6 week course of Carbocisteine plus Buprenorphine patches for 4 weeks
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on November 20, 2015, 09:22:47 PM
Why are we moaning about a free health care system  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 20, 2015, 09:26:58 PM
Quote from: paulprice on November 20, 2015, 09:22:47 PM
Why are we moaning about a free health care system  ??? ??? ???

Because when you think about it, it's not free. Where do they get their money from?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on November 21, 2015, 07:04:40 AM
Our NHS is in a bad state and there some horrible mess-ups as at times reported here, but:

When I think of how much I would pay, even at the discounted rate for my 8 different meds and regular check-ups, I remain grateful.

Hope those of us who are currently unwell get better very soon.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 21, 2015, 09:07:17 PM
In Ireland, we do not have a 'NHS'. There is what is called a medical card that gets you free or partially free treatment, but that is means tested. When I visit the Doctor, it costs me €35, (about £25 at todays exchange rate), just to see him/her and, where I live, it is one of the cheapest places in Ireland to see the Doctor. If I want a repeat prescription. it is €25, (no seeing the Doctor). My monthly medicine has recently come down to €13 - it was €27. When I first went to the hospital for a test, a number of years ago, I had a medical card. So far, the 'powers that be' seem to think I still have one  ;). I dread to think what my bill would be after 2 biopsies and numerous visits to the Hospital for other tets! A lot of people have medical insurance, but that can cost thousands for a family  :o. Dental and optical care also has to be paid for. A lot of people go into Northern Ireland as, even going private, it is cheaper than the south.  :goggleeyes:. Still, at least I am reasonably fit and well - good luck to those of you who have your various ailments - I am quite fortunate really. David.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 30, 2015, 10:34:11 PM
Collected my Mum from Manchester airport this evening. I arrived at 17.15 and left the car park at 18.25. Cost - £9.00 :o
:veryangry2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: acko22 on November 30, 2015, 11:03:45 PM
Nobby - Good trick for you if you ever have to pick anyone up at Manchester Airport.

Park at Heald green station for free and a 2 pound return on the train only 3 minutes away.
Thats what I always do there is a train every 30 min during the day just as much hassle as actually parking in the airport and cheaper!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: JasonBz on November 30, 2015, 11:09:11 PM
That works OK till the points fail at Heald Green Junction.....

Trust me, Ive been there :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: acko22 on November 30, 2015, 11:27:28 PM
Lol well I didnt say its fool proof lol.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: JasonBz on November 30, 2015, 11:31:53 PM
That may have been as far back as the 99 Rugby World Cup...I know there was a lot of Seth Efricans on board aiming for a flight to Jo' burg....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: acko22 on December 01, 2015, 12:17:30 AM
Now I bet they were angry  :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 01, 2015, 10:08:16 AM
Quote from: acko22 on November 30, 2015, 11:03:45 PM
Nobby - Good trick for you if you ever have to pick anyone up at Manchester Airport.

Park at Heald green station for free and a 2 pound return on the train only 3 minutes away.
Thats what I always do there is a train every 30 min during the day just as much hassle as actually parking in the airport and cheaper!!

Nice solution but not really practical for Mum and myself due to medical conditions prevailing.
It's either the car park or she'd have to get a taxi at a cost of some £40-50.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on December 01, 2015, 11:05:38 AM
AHCHOOOOOOOOOOOOO >:(
Joined the other family members with the first cold of the season.
I am not amused  >:(
AHCHOOOOOOOOOOOOO >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 01, 2015, 11:38:42 AM
Quote from: jonclox on December 01, 2015, 11:05:38 AM
AHCHOOOOOOOOOOOOO >:(
Joined the other family members with the first cold of the season.
I am not amused  >:(
AHCHOOOOOOOOOOOOO >:(

Bless You! :wave:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on December 07, 2015, 01:37:21 AM
Quote from: jonclox on December 01, 2015, 11:05:38 AM
AHCHOOOOOOOOOOOOO >:(
Joined the other family members with the first cold of the season.
I am not amused  >:(
AHCHOOOOOOOOOOOOO >:(

Bless you from me too. Why not do as I do andfly south for the winter?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on December 07, 2015, 05:02:20 AM
Quote from: jonclox on December 01, 2015, 11:05:38 AM
AHCHOOOOOOOOOOOOO >:(
Joined the other family members with the first cold of the season.
I am not amused  >:(
AHCHOOOOOOOOOOOOO >:(

"Coughs and sneezles spread diseasels" ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on December 07, 2015, 09:07:16 AM
What he needs is a nice steam session  :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on December 07, 2015, 09:56:25 AM
Spraying the laptop with Dettol.....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on December 07, 2015, 10:26:12 AM
I drank some Dettol once........
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 07, 2015, 11:12:39 AM
Quote from: paulprice on December 07, 2015, 10:26:12 AM
I drank some Dettol once........

.......and went clean round the bend :laugh3:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on December 07, 2015, 01:21:25 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on December 07, 2015, 11:12:39 AM
Quote from: paulprice on December 07, 2015, 10:26:12 AM
I drank some Dettol once........

.......and went clean round the bend :laugh3:

My old mum said stuff like 'He's/she's is Harpic. Clean round the bend.'  http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=harpic (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=harpic)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on December 07, 2015, 10:54:08 PM
your all mad
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on December 08, 2015, 09:27:35 AM
It's taken you 8 months to realise  ???

:P :P :P :P :P :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on December 08, 2015, 09:40:08 AM
Quote from: MikeDunn on December 08, 2015, 09:27:35 AM
It's taken you 8 months to realise  ???

:P :P :P :P :P :P

I was just formulating my theory
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: silly moo on December 08, 2015, 10:04:06 AM
Does anyone say thank you any more? In the last six months we've bought wedding presents for the children of friends. We don't see the receipients as one pair live in the UK and another a few hundred miles away.

I was brought up to write thank you letters, since no one really writes letters,  an email would have been fine.

I do know that both couples received their gifts but their has been no acknowledgement whatsoever.

I don't think I'll bother in future.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 08, 2015, 10:18:17 AM
Don't get me started on my nephew, Veronica.
Having sent him birthday presents for the last 2 years and getting no acknowledgment whatsoever, I'm quite looking forward to his face when there's no Christmas or birthday present this year from me, and I'll be happy to explain why in front of his parents >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: silly moo on December 08, 2015, 10:24:40 AM
There's actually no excuse for not saying thank you, there are many ways to communicate, email, text, phone call, a letter or card even Facebook!

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on December 08, 2015, 10:26:43 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on December 08, 2015, 10:18:17 AM
I'm quite looking forward to his face when there's no Christmas or birthday present this year from me, and I'll be happy to explain why in front of his parents >:D
Curious to know what age he is (roughly - DOB not required  :P)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on December 08, 2015, 11:05:53 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on December 08, 2015, 10:18:17 AM
Don't get me started on my nephew, Veronica.

Funny name for a nephew....................... :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on December 08, 2015, 11:56:57 AM
Quote from: Agrippa on December 08, 2015, 11:05:53 AM
Funny name for a nephew....................... :uneasy:
Ahhhh - a possible explanation : if Mick is incorrectly calling his nephew "Veronica" can you blame the lad for not saying "thank you"  ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: silly moo on December 08, 2015, 12:02:39 PM
Can't take you lot anywhere 😄
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on December 08, 2015, 12:14:46 PM
Nonsense, you can take us all to places twice ...
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And yes, the second time is to apologize for the first !  :angel:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on December 08, 2015, 01:26:27 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on December 08, 2015, 11:56:57 AM
Ahhh - a possible explanation : if Mick is incorrectly calling his nephew "Veronica" can you blame the lad for not saying "thank you"  ::)

He didn't like the frock he got for his birthday............... ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on December 08, 2015, 01:29:23 PM
Quote from: Agrippa on December 08, 2015, 01:26:27 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on December 08, 2015, 11:56:57 AM
Ahhh - a possible explanation : if Mick is incorrectly calling his nephew "Veronica" can you blame the lad for not saying "thank you"  ::)

He didn't like the frock he got for his birthday............... ;D

Or the stilletto's   :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: silly moo on December 08, 2015, 02:51:19 PM
This has become the silly thread : )
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on December 08, 2015, 02:57:29 PM
Wasn't it always...................
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on December 08, 2015, 04:54:29 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on November 30, 2015, 10:34:11 PM
Collected my Mum from Manchester airport this evening. I arrived at 17.15 and left the car park at 18.25. Cost - £9.00 :o
:veryangry2:
I must admit I threw a wobbly on arrival last week after a somewhat gruelling set of flights from far far away and the thieving knuts wanted a non-refundable pound coin for the privilege of using a trolley  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on December 14, 2015, 09:47:34 AM
THATS IT IM IN A MOOD, CHRISTMAS IS RUINED, ITS CANCELLED.

I forgot to put the Christmas sprouts on to boil in October........ :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on December 14, 2015, 09:53:34 AM
Quote from: paulprice on December 14, 2015, 09:47:34 AM
THATS IT IM IN A MOOD, CHRISTMAS IS RUINED, ITS CANCELLED.

I forgot to put the Christmas sprouts on to boil in October........ :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Microwave!

Full Power!

NOW!

HTH  :wave:

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on December 14, 2015, 09:57:35 AM
Quote from: daveg on December 14, 2015, 09:53:34 AM
Quote from: paulprice on December 14, 2015, 09:47:34 AM
THATS IT IM IN A MOOD, CHRISTMAS IS RUINED, ITS CANCELLED.

I forgot to put the Christmas sprouts on to boil in October........ :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Microwave!

Full Power!

NOW!

HTH  :wave:

Dave G

A Microwave what sort of modern witchcraft is this??

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 14, 2015, 10:03:12 AM
Oh heck Dave, when I saw you posting in the angry thread I panicked 'cos I  thought you were complaining about me being late with the wiring diagrams!

At least you seem to have the wet sorted. I'm struggling with the switching of your contollers. In between going to Christmas  functions!

I'll be in touch.

George
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on December 14, 2015, 10:14:28 AM
Quote from: Bealman on December 14, 2015, 10:03:12 AM
Oh heck Dave, when I saw you posting in the angry thread I panicked 'cos I  thought you were complaining about me being late with the wiring diagrams!

At least you seem to have the wet sorted. I'm struggling with the switching of your contollers. In between going to Christmas  functions!

I'll be in touch.

George

No surprise you have a challenge, George. Why d'you think I asked you?!

Meanwhile, PP can get his sprouts on the chug and I'll attempt to jury-rig a wired loop so I can see what idiocy I have created while awaiting your kind advice instructions.

First though I have to clear the mass off boxes that have been breeding under the layout.  :worried:

Major leaked is indeed sorted courtesy of an amazing chap who at 77, did do wondrous things down deep, muddy holes! The house will take until the spring to show signs of drying out properly. We have fared much, much better than the folk in and around The Lakes.

Enjoy the festivities and fret not. I shall still be here come January 2, 2016 - well, that's the plan.  :D

Dave G

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on December 14, 2015, 10:18:46 AM
Quote from: paulprice on December 14, 2015, 09:57:35 AM
Quote from: daveg on December 14, 2015, 09:53:34 AM
Quote from: paulprice on December 14, 2015, 09:47:34 AM
THATS IT IM IN A MOOD, CHRISTMAS IS RUINED, ITS CANCELLED.

I forgot to put the Christmas sprouts on to boil in October........ :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Microwave!

Full Power!

NOW!

HTH  :wave:

Dave G

A Microwave what sort of modern witchcraft is this??

Well, we do have electricity here in the West Midlands -usually. Doing a full turkey roast on a Primus stove does require some level of imagination.

Just occurred to me: LMS = Light My Sprouts  :-X

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 14, 2015, 10:24:27 AM
Quote from: daveg on December 14, 2015, 10:18:46 AM


Just occurred to me: LMS = Light My Sprouts  :-X


Or the main by product :-X
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on December 14, 2015, 10:28:16 AM
Quote from: Bealman on December 14, 2015, 10:03:12 AM
I'm struggling with the switching of your contollers. In between going to Christmas  functions!
Which F-key are these found on  ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on December 14, 2015, 10:32:38 AM
Quote from: MikeDunn on December 14, 2015, 10:28:16 AM
Quote from: Bealman on December 14, 2015, 10:03:12 AM
I'm struggling with the switching of your contollers. In between going to Christmas  functions!
Which F-key are these found on  ???

Sorry Mike. That detail's on a 'need to know' basis.  ;)

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 14, 2015, 10:42:06 AM
Anyone who wants to fly out to Sydney are welcome to stand in for me at a couple that I don't really want to go to!  :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on December 18, 2015, 09:05:46 AM
 :veryangry: Dapol fails again !
About 18 months + ago I put my name down for the 2 class 73 Pullmans from G.masters.I was happy to wait the 6 months or so for them to be produced and come into stock but every month or so the goal posts are moved and now theres no sign of delivery  till end of March (2016). Ive got the carriage stock, track and even the baseboard and some scenic just waiting for the planned Jan. delivery date but feel really cheesed off to be let down again.
:veryangry: :censored: :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on December 18, 2015, 09:26:37 AM
That's a major disappointed Jon. Like you, I have all the other rolling stock sitting their boxes.

Last update (September '15) I had from GM had said January. How come so late in the day they now say March?

Not consolation to you after such a long wait but my order place just last March so looks like a 12 month lead time for me. The added danger is that there's even more time to spend the allocated cash elsewhere.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 18, 2015, 09:57:23 AM
Could it be Dapol have realised they wouldn't get the stuff on a ship before Chinese New Year, in which case I believe the delay is approx 8 weeks? :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: silly moo on December 18, 2015, 10:57:50 AM
Waiting for locos is really frustrating especially if you want to get or give one as a Christmas or birthday gift. The Farish Merchant Navy seemed to take ages to arrive. Mine got more and more expensive as time went on due to exchange rates. When ordered the rand was 13 to the pound, when I actually paid for it was 18 to the pound. I suppose I should be thankful, the rand is now 23 to the pound! I won't be buying many new locos in future.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on December 18, 2015, 12:24:15 PM
Quote from: silly moo on December 18, 2015, 10:57:50 AM
the rand is now 23 to the pound! I won't be buying many new locos in future.
Eeeek, that's not good, you have my /our sympathy.

I dont suppose a comment like " wait for a new Finance Minister " would go down very well at the moment ? :-X
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on December 18, 2015, 12:27:25 PM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on December 18, 2015, 12:24:15 PM
Quote from: silly moo on December 18, 2015, 10:57:50 AM
the rand is now 23 to the pound! I won't be buying many new locos in future.
Eeeek, that's not good, you have my /our sympathy.

I dont suppose a comment like " wait for a new Finance Minister " would go down very well at the moment ? :-X

'This job terminates here. All change!'  :doh:

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: silly moo on December 18, 2015, 12:31:32 PM
We are certainly having fun and games here so I'll make do with what I have at the moment. It's vcertainly not dull here  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on December 18, 2015, 12:59:02 PM
Quote from: silly moo on December 18, 2015, 12:31:32 PMcertainly not dull here
You must be a Monty Python fan, ",,,, the bright side of life"
altogether now . . .
:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on December 19, 2015, 03:11:20 AM
Looks like  a good time to visit. Lol. Still that exchange rate must make you randy.(where have all the emoticons gone?)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 21, 2015, 08:18:26 PM
Never mind angry. I am absolutely fuming the  :censored: BBC has ended its coverage of Formula 1 3 years early due to cost cutting.
It always seems to me that motor sport gets the chop more quickly than any other.
Channel 4 is taking over the coverage though whether this means Suzi Perry et al (whoever he is) will be moving over I don't know
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on December 21, 2015, 08:31:07 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on December 21, 2015, 08:18:26 PM
Never mind angry. I am absolutely fuming the  :censored: BBC has ended its coverage of Formula 1 3 years early due to cost cutting.
It always seems to me that motor sport gets the chop more quickly than any other.
Channel 4 is taking over the coverage though whether this means Suzi Perry et al (whoever he is) will be moving over I don't know
I expect we'll get a new bunch of cheapo presenters and adverts every 15 minutes.
It was bad enough when we only got to see 10 live races for free. Now we're gonna miss all the good bits for the adverts.
I'm definitely not going to pay for Sky coverage. Probably like loads of other people. This could be the start of the end for F1.
:veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 21, 2015, 08:42:11 PM
Who's Suzi Perry, again?  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on December 21, 2015, 08:43:49 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on December 21, 2015, 08:18:26 PM
Never mind angry. I am absolutely fuming
What's the big deal ?  It was on a free-to-air channel, it'll stay on a free-to-air channel ...
Quote
motor sport gets the chop more quickly than any other.
At £35M, it's hardly surprising ... in this age of Murdoch driving the broadcast price Sky-high for almost all sports, be glad you've had it for so long - and it'll still be free for the remainder of the contract.  But at £3.5M per broadcast race - someone got a good deal, and it wasn't the license-payer ...

Remember - the Beeb has to reduce costs by about £500M - this is a large chunk of that in one go.  Another chunk saved is the Bottom Gear mob moving to internet TV  ::)  Now if we could only get rid of the rest of the overpaid "presenters" ...  :P starting with a ginger prat !

Quote from: austinbob on December 21, 2015, 08:31:07 PM
I expect we'll get [...] adverts every 15 minutes.
Seeing as they said something about "no adverts" ...  ::)
Quote
This could be the start of the end for F1.
That started years ago ...  ::)

I sympathise ... but sport in general (and motor sport in particular) has taken away much money from other areas the Beeb used to do well (some of which I'm interested in), resulting in quite a dumb-down of what little is produced I like to watch ... or at least, what I used to like to watch while it was still entertaining & educational, and not at the level of tabloid journalism.  What goes around, comes around - and it's motorsport's turn to be on the sharp end.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on December 21, 2015, 09:01:54 PM
As I understand it, F1 is going to Channel 4, but only for 10 live races, (as now with BBC). Apparently it will be advert' free - but we will see ???. Like stated previously, as much as enjoy F1, I will not be paying Sky  :no:. David.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on December 21, 2015, 09:09:22 PM
Quote from: Bealman on December 21, 2015, 08:42:11 PM
Who's Suzi Perry, again?  :D
Isn't she that short, leather-clad rock-&-roller  ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on December 21, 2015, 09:14:45 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on December 21, 2015, 08:43:49 PM

Quote from: austinbob on December 21, 2015, 08:31:07 PM
I expect we'll get [...] adverts every 15 minutes.
Seeing as they said something about "no adverts" ...  ::)
And you believe that will last long???  :hmmm: ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on December 21, 2015, 09:16:43 PM
I'd give it no more than 3 years  :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on December 21, 2015, 09:17:14 PM
No that's Fred Perry anyway why should licence payers have to
cough up for petrolheads watching vroom vroom round a tail chaser.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on December 21, 2015, 09:21:08 PM
I wish they would dump the Tennis and Snooker, I mean a sport REALLY I think not  :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on December 21, 2015, 09:23:51 PM
Quote from: Agrippa on December 21, 2015, 09:17:14 PM
No that's Fred Perry anyway why should licence payers have to
cough up for petrolheads watching vroom vroom round a tail chaser.
You could say the same about licence payers paying up for watching two teams of overpaid schoolboys kicking a ball around a field!!  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on December 21, 2015, 09:27:40 PM
Quote from: austinbob on December 21, 2015, 09:23:51 PM
You could say the same about licence payers paying up for watching two teams of overpaid schoolboys kicking a ball around a field!!  :D
OK  :D

What a waste of money it is for license payers paying up for a bunch of over-paid wooses running up & down a field for an 80 - 90 minutes !  (should have the rugby mob ITV lost a fortune on included there  :P)

Just don't start me on fishing being a "sport" ... !!!  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on December 21, 2015, 09:32:57 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on December 21, 2015, 09:27:40 PM
Quote from: austinbob on December 21, 2015, 09:23:51 PM
You could say the same about licence payers paying up for watching two teams of overpaid schoolboys kicking a ball around a field!!  :D
OK  :D

What a waste of money it is for license payers paying up for a bunch of over-paid wooses running up & down a field for an 80 - 90 minutes !  (should have the rugby mob ITV lost a fortune on included there  :P)

Just don't start me on fishing being a "sport" ... !!!  :thumbsdown:
I think we are tiptoeing onto dangerous ground here Mike. I suppose everyone has their own favourite sport and woe betide anyone who threatens our access to it.
I just happen to like F1 and can see its unfortunate demise looming on the horizon.
I don't like football or rugby or any sport that involves exercise!! it makes me feel guilty about my lack of exercise when I watch it!!
I can relate to F1 whizzing round a track as I dream about driving my C4 Picasso around an F1 track. Hey Ho!!
:D :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 21, 2015, 09:35:02 PM
I guess most of the sports I like have priced themselves out of the range of the terrestrial channels. In fairly quick succession MotoGP, F1 and American Football have gone from our screens. I guess the Superbowl will be shown, as were the matches played at Wembley
Yes, I know F1 will be on Channel 4 next year but until I know who the presenters are the jury is definitely still out. I'm not disposed to criticise sports I don't like and I wouldn't touch Sky with someone else's bargepole.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Geoff on December 21, 2015, 09:58:36 PM
Well as long as the BBC can show Strictly I do not know what the fuss is about  :laugh3:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on December 21, 2015, 10:01:04 PM
Quote from: Geoff on December 21, 2015, 09:58:36 PM
Well as long as the BBC can show Strictly I do not know what the fuss is about  :laugh3:
Oh My God!! I thought Strictly had gone away until next year. - please change the subject!!  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on December 21, 2015, 10:32:40 PM
Quote from: austinbob on December 21, 2015, 10:01:04 PM
Quote from: Geoff on December 21, 2015, 09:58:36 PM
Well as long as the BBC can show Strictly I do not know what the fuss is about  :laugh3:
Oh My God!! I thought Strictly had gone away until next year. - please change the subject!!  :'(
I have experienced this particular brand of horror for the first time while visiting my parents' house recently. Doesn't help that they are somewhat HARD OF HEARING and have the TV volume dialled up to 11. I need therapy.  :help:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on December 22, 2015, 05:32:26 AM
I know what I want for Christmas. A new boiler! The darn thing has been showing its age recently and on Sunday it finally died and no amount of resuscitation will bring it back to life. That's £3k less for modelling purposes. Just glad it's quite mild at the moment as no heating. At least the tank has an emersion heater not that it's ever been used so we'll see how long it lasts providing hot water. Aaaaaaaargh!
Gareth
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on December 22, 2015, 06:20:59 AM
Sympathies Gareth.

If you have an off peak meter, get an immersion timer so you can run the thing over night and save a fair bit. It's what we have (to do). Don't buy a cheapo version though as it takes a big kick on start up.

Hope I'm 'not teaching granny'.  ;)

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on December 22, 2015, 01:08:04 PM
Quote from: austinbob on December 21, 2015, 09:32:57 PM
I think we are tiptoeing onto dangerous ground here Mike.
Well, ya did say ...  ::)

Quote from: newportnobby on December 21, 2015, 09:35:02 PM
I guess most of the sports I like have priced themselves out of the range of the terrestrial channels.
Aye, and it seems to be pure greed by the relevant controlling bodies  :(

Quote from: thebrighton on December 22, 2015, 05:32:26 AM
I know what I want for Christmas. A new boiler! The darn thing has been showing its age recently and on Sunday it finally died and no amount of resuscitation will bring it back to life.
Ouch !  :thumbsdown:  Hope you have a boiler plan for it ?  Our "new" one committed hari kiri a few winters ago; fortunately, it was under warranty and the mfr admitted they screwed up on design & assembly (wrong metals used together in the system, resulting in catastrophic corrosion); they paid for a brand new one to be fitted (with compatible metals), but it took a couple of weeks to get it done  :thumbsdown: 

Hoping you don't have the same delays !!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on December 22, 2015, 02:41:48 PM
Mike - No, no boiler plan but it was 16 years old and living on borrowed time. It hasn't really been a surprise as the model was notorious for breaking down but we have been lucky.

Daveg - no off peak meter but with regard to the heating I'm always telling SWMBO to put a jumper on if she's cold (whilst running for cover!)

Gareth
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on December 22, 2015, 02:51:37 PM
 >:D People who loose the ends of sticky tape rolls and chuck the roll back in the  bag with all the wrapping paper :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mr bachmann on December 22, 2015, 04:07:35 PM
idiots that dump their unwanted last years sofa's outside the garage doors  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on December 22, 2015, 04:28:13 PM
 :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry: Fish plates   :veryangry: :censored: :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on December 26, 2015, 08:25:00 PM
Arrived at in-laws at 10.55 Christmas day to smell of dinner cooking then from 11.10 until after 3 joined the rest of the area in a power cut! No idea when it would return as they're out in the sticks so no mobile signal. Many dinners ruined so had Christmas dinner consisting of veg (gas hob) and cold ham covered in gravy to warm it up. I'd not been looking forward to a day with the in-laws anyway so no telly and gloom due to the storm clouds outside meant a cracking Christmas was had by all.
Thankfully not as bad as the poor souls with no power and flood water to contend with.
Gareth
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on January 14, 2016, 01:33:16 PM
Took my empty water glass into the bathroom with me before coming down to breakfast and at the same time managed (after well over 30 years) to convert it into something brand new......
Its now been modified (using one of my man skills) into an ex- tumbler.
I am not popular   :doh: :doh: I only dropped it a little way
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on January 14, 2016, 03:14:13 PM
It's curious that they call them "tumblers" because in my experience (and in Jon's) they don't actually tumble, more plummet. There is certainly no bouncing involved.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tom U on January 14, 2016, 03:21:45 PM
An optimist says the glass is half full
A pessimist says the glass is half empty
A pragmatist says the glass is twice as big as it needs to be
A fumble fingers says the glass is now a jigsaw puzzle and any content is now liberated onto the floor
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on January 14, 2016, 10:53:13 PM
Quote from: jonclox on January 14, 2016, 01:33:16 PM

Its now been modified (using one of my man skills) into an ex- tumbler.


At least it was empty ;). Depending on the bathroom floor covering, you could have converted that as well, into either a soggy mess or a skid pan  ;D. David.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on January 15, 2016, 11:09:44 PM
Don't you just love  :censored: power cuts  :veryangry:

Had a local one lasting 23/4 hrs and  :censored: missed bidding on 3 N gauge loco's  :veryangry:

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Chris Morris on February 08, 2016, 09:30:40 PM
This is more somewhat peeved than angry.
I'm exhibiting at Stafford show and buy a new loco, as you do. When I looked at it later there were no couplings so I went back to the vendor. He was fine and noticed that there was no bag of bits so he got me a bag from another loco. I go away happy.
I come to run the loco when I get home and it runs rather slowly. I should point out that I run DCC. I had already lightly oiled the bogies so I removed them and lightly oiled the worm drives and bearings. Still runs slowly and after half an hour of running it's still slow and the plastic body is warm to the touch. So I remove the body and find a chip inside.
This will be fine as I will get a blanking plug from a DCC friend and he will gain a chip, but buying a new loco should not include this much faffing around.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on February 09, 2016, 06:47:29 AM
We're back online after 3 weeks without broadband thanks to a BT screw-up at the local exchange.

Trying to get anything sorted over the phone is virtually impossible as all you get is someone reading from a script that results in 'a line fault'.

The second of 4 OpenReach engineers involved found that there was 'no BB sync' at the exchange but wasn't allowed to reset the thing as it wasn't on his job sheet.

Desperate to leave BT ASAP but limited alternatives around here!

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: silly moo on February 09, 2016, 06:53:51 AM
Our local bunch are advertising high speed fibre internet with big banners proclaiming that they can install it within a week, we've signed up and been waiting over a month!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on February 09, 2016, 09:46:09 AM
Quote from: silly moo on February 09, 2016, 06:53:51 AM
proclaiming that they can install it within a week, we've signed up and been waiting over a month!
Do they have any small print stating the date they'll install it within a week of  :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mickeyflinn on February 09, 2016, 10:35:26 AM
Wouldn't touch BT again with a barge-pole.
When we first moved into our house it was a new-build and there was no telephone line installed, even though the builders had installed all the necessary underground ducting for the lines to be installed.
My wife was several months pregnant with our son, and for obvious reasons we needed a telephone line installed ASAP. I used the telephone in the site office to contact BT, but was told that;
"They couldn't install a telephone line at the present time as the builders hadn't installed the underground ducting (which they had), and could they take our home telephone number so that they could contact us directly to inform us when they might be able to install the line."
This was in 1989, so there were no mobiles and very little competition for BT. Needless to say, we left BT as soon as we could!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on February 09, 2016, 11:07:52 AM
BT. Aren't they just the business?!

While calling foreign parts to speak to their help desk on our landline I'm afraid I totally lost it when the guy told me that the reason we didn't have BB was because of the fault on the landline. Likewise I was asked for the number they could contact me on. We already had had an engineer reporting no fault with the line.

I also received 2 SMS messages over the 3 weeks thanking me for my order and that they are still trying to organise things ready for my move in October 2014; that's when we moved here!

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on February 09, 2016, 11:47:25 AM
When my BT phone and broadband went down, I disconnected everything connected to the pair of wires coming into the house. I used a meter and found there was a short coming in. We have a telegraph pole outside and the cover was off the connection block and our pair was the lowest one in there. I could see water dripping out of it. Their help desk assured me the fault was in my property and they would send an engineer and it would cost £70 if they found a fault. I said OK, but if the fault was with them, I would be charging them £140 for loss of service. 3 weeks later a man turned up, cleaned the connections outside, had a cup of coffee and left. I spoke to the help desk and got a quarter's rental refunded.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TylerB on February 09, 2016, 05:23:29 PM
Not BT but... when cable TV came to my area, I waited for the builders to dig up the road outside my house to lay the cables, then applied to have cable TV. It took months to get a straight answer, but to cut a long story short, eventually a rather embarrassed manager contacted me to say that the builders who dug up the road had dug a trench and filled it back in - but somehow forgotten to lay a cable in it, and the whole road had to be redone!!!

To be fair they did it quite quickly after that...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on February 14, 2016, 01:16:19 PM
1990's basswood kits - no longer available and is a real pain because everything has to be cut out with a scalpel.
It is a Z scale model of a RhB station, the detail parts are just breaking as they try to cut them out - so that means a lot of  bodging with quite a few bits will end up not being fitted.
Not protypical for Swiss stations but there may be ground cover in places where it would never be.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davieb on February 16, 2016, 09:25:35 PM
Bloody Peco inspection pits  :veryangry:  :censored:  :veryangry:

Just cut my thumb getting one fitted
Not such a good idea when I am on blood thinning medication  :doh:

Dave  :headbutt:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on February 16, 2016, 09:38:37 PM
Quote from: davieb on February 16, 2016, 09:25:35 PM
Bloody Peco inspection pits  :veryangry:  :censored:  :veryangry:

Just cut my thumb getting one fitted
So you're being literal then  ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on February 16, 2016, 09:41:13 PM
Quote from: davieb on February 16, 2016, 09:25:35 PM
when I am on blood thinning medication  :doh:
Good job you are not   a hemo    an Nphiliac then :)

-philiac
" 1.   someone with tendency towards something, or an abnormal attraction to something "

:-X
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: fatso on February 16, 2016, 09:49:06 PM
Quote from: davieb on February 16, 2016, 09:25:35 PM
Bloody Peco inspection pits  :veryangry:  :censored:  :veryangry:

Just cut my thumb getting one fitted
Not such a good idea when I am on blood thinning medication  :doh:

Dave  :headbutt:

Rule one if you have heart problem or need to have blood thinned always use new blade and have doctors on speed dial  and if diabetic plenty of plaster near to hand {I have completed the course lol}.mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 16, 2016, 09:50:31 PM
Quote from: davieb on February 16, 2016, 09:25:35 PM
Bloody Peco inspection pits  :veryangry:  :censored:  :veryangry:

Just cut my thumb getting one fitted
Not such a good idea when I am on blood thinning medication  :doh:

Dave  :headbutt:

Stupid question, I know, but why would you want to fit an inspection pit in your thumb? ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davieb on February 16, 2016, 09:57:54 PM
I knew it wouldn't be long until that comment

On a side note
I can't believe how hard it is to get blood stains from the track  ::)

Dave
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: fatso on February 16, 2016, 10:11:35 PM
Hi joking apart please make sure you clean and keep the cut clean as I got real nasty infection thinking its just a nick
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 16, 2016, 10:12:02 PM
Quote from: davieb on February 16, 2016, 09:57:54 PM
I knew it wouldn't be long until that comment

On a side note
I can't believe how hard it is to get blood stains from the track  ::)

Dave

But is it a better colour than those Woodland Scenics marker pens, Dave?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on February 16, 2016, 10:17:57 PM
This should be in the Happy thread but it follows on from the post.
It really is good to see NPN is back on here and as witty as ever, and the operation had made his response quicker than it used to be .
Good on yer Mick keep it up its been quiet without you.
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on February 17, 2016, 06:42:49 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on February 16, 2016, 09:50:31 PM
Quote from: davieb on February 16, 2016, 09:25:35 PM
Bloody Peco inspection pits  :veryangry:  :censored:  :veryangry:

Just cut my thumb getting one fitted
Not such a good idea when I am on blood thinning medication  :doh:

Dave  :headbutt:

Stupid question, I know, but why would you want to fit an inspection pit in your thumb? ???

He's Ba-ack!  >:D  ;)

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 17, 2016, 07:11:57 AM
Geez, Dave... when I saw your name on the angry thread, I thought you were going to go off about my lack of wiring diagrams for your layout!  :sweat:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on February 17, 2016, 07:14:41 AM
 :laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:

Not yet, George. Not yet.  :)

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 17, 2016, 07:35:27 AM
Phew!  :sweat:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on February 17, 2016, 11:07:34 AM
Where do I sign up for a lack of diagrams about my layout? ;)

Meanwhile... grrr Google-Android, they have somehow updated crippled the functionality of the gallery app which means I have to stab about twice as much to perform a common action.  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 17, 2016, 11:23:39 AM
I've noticed that the older I get, I too have similar problems trying to perform  a common action.  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davieb on February 17, 2016, 11:52:01 AM

Quote from: newportnobby on February 16, 2016, 10:12:02 PM
Quote from: davieb on February 16, 2016, 09:57:54 PM
I knew it wouldn't be long until that comment

On a side note
I can't believe how hard it is to get blood stains from the track  ::)

Dave

But is it a better colour than those Woodland Scenics marker pens, Dave?

Funnily enough yes it is  :P

Quote from: Bealman on February 17, 2016, 07:11:57 AM
Geez, Dave... when I saw your name on the angry thread, I thought you were going to go off about my lack of wiring diagrams for your layout!  :sweat:

It's easy
remember its DCC so only 2 wires are needed  :laugh3:

Dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on February 22, 2016, 08:37:41 PM
As if I wasn't fed up enough with contrived words like 'Brexit', I have now seen 'Brexiteer' :o :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 22, 2016, 09:02:10 PM
Quote from: Pengi on February 22, 2016, 08:37:41 PM
As if I wasn't fed up enough with contrived words like 'Brexit', I have now seen 'Brexiteer' :o :veryangry:

Someone who escapes the clutches of BR?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on February 23, 2016, 04:11:43 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on February 22, 2016, 09:02:10 PM
Quote from: Pengi on February 22, 2016, 08:37:41 PM
As if I wasn't fed up enough with contrived words like 'Brexit', I have now seen 'Brexiteer' :o :veryangry:

Someone who escapes the clutches of BR?
:laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on February 23, 2016, 04:50:56 PM
I've also seen "Bremain"

The mind doth boggle

Another forum has stared a "Music to referendum by" topic

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?126805-Music-to-referendum-by (http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?126805-Music-to-referendum-by)

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on February 23, 2016, 04:55:13 PM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on February 23, 2016, 04:50:56 PM
I've also seen "Bremain"

The mind doth boggle

Another forum has stared a "Music to referendum by" topic

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?126805-Music-to-referendum-by (http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?126805-Music-to-referendum-by)



https://youtu.be/kyFyAqLtHq8 (https://youtu.be/kyFyAqLtHq8)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MikeDunn on February 23, 2016, 07:39:20 PM
Isn't this politics and therefore banned from the Forum ?

There's enough  :poop: about this on :tv: boring me without it cropping up here too !!!  :computerangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ozzie Bill. on February 23, 2016, 08:27:40 PM
My wife and I are travelling to UK and US in June. I had cancer with complications nearly 7 years ago, so the insurance companies do not worry about that. However, along with the C I developed DVT as part of the side effects so now am on warfarin for life. Some insurance co's just refuse to insure me, whilst others will insure me except for blood clots and related issues. This is despite the fact that I have traveled, with full disclosure, several times prior. Do they have an out if, say, I get mugged in Chicago (sorry Chicago, just an example) and bleed badly needing transfusions. The bleeding is due to the blood thinners! None of the ones I have spoken to thus far will give a firm answer. I am angry about this on 2 counts - failure to give straight answers and refusal to give full coverage, despite my safe history.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: fatso on February 25, 2016, 07:49:12 PM
Well hit my first set back today I was given two already built 4x6ft baseboard which has now been taking back due the reading club wanting them they have not used them in over a year soon as they are given to me for the club few weeks down the road wham please can I have them back so now I have ask my lovely lady if I can have loan wish me luck on this one if they think I am going to be beaten they are in for a shock come hell or high water I will have baseboard by next Monday and we will be running trains.mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dock Shunter on February 25, 2016, 09:00:37 PM
Quote from: fatso on February 25, 2016, 07:49:12 PM
Well hit my first set back today I was given two already built 4x6ft baseboard which has now been taking back due the reading club wanting them they have not used them in over a year soon as they are given to me for the club few weeks down the road wham please can I have them back.

They "Gave" them to you,and a few weeks later they want them back?
Cant you "politely" tell them they are not getting them back.They gave them to you.Why should you have to give them back...?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: fatso on February 25, 2016, 09:30:05 PM
Quote from: Dock Shunter on February 25, 2016, 09:00:37 PM
Quote from: fatso on February 25, 2016, 07:49:12 PM
Well hit my first set back today I was given two already built 4x6ft baseboard which has now been taking back due the reading club wanting them they have not used them in over a year soon as they are given to me for the club few weeks down the road wham please can I have them back.

They "Gave" them to you,and a few weeks later they want them back?
Cant you "politely" tell them they are not getting them back.They gave them to you.Why should you have to give them back...?

The boards are made to look like a story book with a page in the middle that comes off its run by the local mums who have been given bigger space to run reading club in larger  library what's done is done where's a will there's a way.mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NinOz on March 06, 2016, 04:55:06 AM
Getting old sucks! >:(

20 rotary encoders arrived in the post a little over a week ago; now can't find a trace of them.  Searched every where so must conclude they may have gone in the bin.  $48 gone.

Have to reorder today and wait another week. :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on March 06, 2016, 07:33:45 AM
Tell me about it!  :veryangry:

The originals will turn up just as their replacements arrive.  :doh:

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on March 06, 2016, 09:28:47 AM
 >:D and other attributes I wont list here.
I lost my mojo over/about Christmas time and have done nothing much to the layout since then using the coldness in the layout room as part of the excuse. Ann has now wanted to put some tomatoe and other plants on the windowsill to 'grow on' ::) but its far to cold in there.
:idea:  my brain cell kicked in early last week and I ordered her a tubular thermostatically controlled greenhouse heater to put below the windowsill and keep the plants 'warm'
Now she cant thank me enough as its working fine and taking the chill off the room each night.
The underhanded sneaky thing is that the room is nearly warm enough for me to start modelling odds and ends in there. I can be a swine sometimes.  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: woodbury22uk on March 06, 2016, 09:31:01 AM
Quote from: NinOz on March 06, 2016, 04:55:06 AM
Getting old sucks! >:(

I know what you mean. I couldn't find my cup of coffee. Searched high and low and in my lady's chamber. Behold, the next morning, there it was in the microwave where I had reheated it because I forgot to drink it while it was hot!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: trkilliman on March 06, 2016, 09:58:10 AM

I know what you mean. I couldn't find my cup of coffee. Searched high and low and in my lady's chamber. Behold, the next morning, there it was in the microwave where I had reheated it because I forgot to drink it while it was hot!

I know exactly what you mean with the coffee Woodbury22UK...been there done that many times! 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 06, 2016, 10:06:51 AM
I recall with some bemusement the day my Mum made me a cup of coffee and then walked straight past me and put it in a cupboard. I wasn't angry at all but she was furious with herself.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 06, 2016, 10:20:38 AM
Forgetting where you put things and having to look for them all over the house, is just nature's way of making you take exercise. It is especially beneficial if you live in a 2 story house and have stairs to negotiate. :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on March 06, 2016, 02:41:41 PM
Had the baby (well, pre-toddler now) on my lap earlier today, then he suddenly wasn't there but being held by Mrs. Squid, and I have no recollection of putting him down or handing him over.  :confused2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 06, 2016, 06:21:31 PM
Squidlet obviously has the ability to 'beam' himself about the place ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on March 06, 2016, 07:32:39 PM
Quote from: jonclox on March 06, 2016, 09:28:47 AM

The underhanded sneaky thing is that the room is nearly warm enough for me to start modelling odds and ends in there. I can be a swine sometimes.  :-[

No, no - that is called using your initiative, (and getting in SWMBO good books). Well done. :D. David.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on March 06, 2016, 08:02:11 PM
Sorting out the granddaughters' laptop - just spent the last hour looking for the administrative password and changing every thing so she now has complete control over it.
Her problem now as have removed myself from the user list.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 06, 2016, 10:13:45 PM
Quote from: Oldman on March 06, 2016, 08:02:11 PM
Sorting out the granddaughters' laptop - just spent the last hour looking for the administrative password and changing every thing so she now has complete control over it.
Her problem now as have removed myself from the user list.

I'd have put that in 'The Happy Thread' :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on March 06, 2016, 10:19:39 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 06, 2016, 10:13:45 PM
Quote from: Oldman on March 06, 2016, 08:02:11 PM
Sorting out the granddaughters' laptop - just spent the last hour looking for the administrative password and changing every thing so she now has complete control over it.
Her problem now as have removed myself from the user list.

I'd have put that in 'The Happy Thread' :D
Could have been both,the problem was finding the password.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 06, 2016, 11:28:11 PM
I rarely post on this thread as I don't like negativity on the forum, nor do I wish to be seen as what the Aussies refer to as a pommy whinger (sometimes in fun, sometimes not). However this recent incident really got my back up.

I bought Mrs Bealman a cheap smartphone from Aldi:
[smg id=36415 type=preview align=center width=400]
Anyway, the battery in it swelled up to become the size of a golfball. Time for a new one.

I don't know if you folk in the UK have a chain called Battery World, but we do here in NSW. They advertise that they have batteries for EVERYTHING. So Bealman fronted up at aforementioned shop, to be greeted by some young kid who, as soon as he saw the phone, said they don't have batteries for that. He then proceeded to lecture me as to how to get rid of the old battery.

I wasn't so much annoyed about that as I am about what I believe is a phone in perfectly working order about to become e-trash in landfill.   >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 06, 2016, 11:37:10 PM
Have a squint on e-bay, George. There are all sorts of batteries on the UK site. Should be the same down under. Failing that, have a look at the manufacturer's web site. It may be a common problem. Good hunting.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 06, 2016, 11:48:32 PM
Cheers, Malc. Will do!  :beers:

George
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 07, 2016, 12:53:25 AM
Well, I just spent an hour looking, and no joy. Perhaps the kid was right after all. During the search, I just noticed a new phone at Officeworks for less than a hundred bucks. Looks like it'll be easier to get a new one and chuck the old one.

It's a sad situation and one that really irks me as like most railway modellers, I like fixing stuff and recycling materials for the layout.

Throw-away society.....  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 07, 2016, 10:58:14 AM
Don't you just hate it when the young whippersnapper gets it right.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: davieb on March 13, 2016, 11:46:41 AM
feeling pretty angry right now
spent a couple of hours last night doing some ballasting
only to have just seen it disappear in the hoover just now
guess that's ballast magic  :(

Dave  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 13, 2016, 02:51:43 PM
Oh dear, Dave.
That's not good. Did you have one of your stockings tucked into the vacuum cleaner nozzle so you could reclaim the ballast? ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on March 14, 2016, 10:59:38 AM
 :worried: Was scheduled to go to the GP for an MOT and update but cancelled it last week because of the cold stormy weather that does my breathing no good.
Friday I seemed to have picked up a cold and yesterday felt as sick as a dog during the afternoon/evening but at least I can inform the GP about this added situation when (hopefully) :-\ she phones up  this afternoon  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 14, 2016, 02:41:18 PM
Quote from: jonclox on March 14, 2016, 10:59:38 AM
:worried:Was scheduled to go to the GP foe

Might be better if you kept her on your side, Jon ;)

Hope you feel better soon.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on March 15, 2016, 10:21:02 AM
Discovered that I have run out of primer, so jobs will have to wait until I get more funds next week provided DWP don't muck my payment up again  :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on March 15, 2016, 02:45:25 PM
Quote from: jonclox on March 14, 2016, 10:59:38 AM
:worried: Was scheduled to go to the GP for an MOT and update but cancelled it last week because of the cold stormy weather that does my breathing no good.
Friday I seemed to have picked up a cold and yesterday felt as sick as a dog during the afternoon/evening but at least I can inform the GP about this added situation when (hopefully) :-\ she phones up  this afternoon  :hmmm:
It appears that my GP is part of a group :o who attend seminars and discussion boards etc  that are in existence purely to discuss COPD problems.
As such they hold a  phone conference 'meeting' each week and try sort each others problems/patients etc out.
Im not sure if its a local area thingy but it might come up with something to help me more in the long term.  ::)
Time may tell  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 15, 2016, 03:20:50 PM
Good luck with that, Jon.
If it was my lot I'd suspect them of having a discussion about their golf swing or something else equally as important. :unimpressed:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on March 25, 2016, 09:42:08 AM
Grrrrr second time this year of have mislaid the lead from my Camera to the Computer. If I buy a new Nikon one sod's law says the old one will suddenly appear again.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GeeBee on March 25, 2016, 10:58:33 AM
Quote from: Oldman on March 25, 2016, 09:42:08 AM
Grrrrr second time this year of have mislaid the lead from my Camera to the Computer. If I buy a new Nikon one sod's law says the old one will suddenly appear again.

Which Nikon do you have, my D60 and Coolpix 3800 both will take miniature usb to usb  and I normally use the one from my note pad they are all inter changeable
regards
Graham
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on March 25, 2016, 11:08:43 AM
EyeFi is a Wi-Fi chip in an 8GB SD card.

So around the house my photos go straight to my computer.  when i'm out it saves them and dumps them as soon as it sees my house Wi-Fi

Works on any camera that takes an SD card. 

My Nikon Coolipix P7000 even sees the card when its installed and can switch it on and off from the camera menu.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dieselpunk on March 25, 2016, 11:01:17 PM
Hmmmm, what makes me angry? I could go into detail but I don't think the internet is big enough to cope! Suffice to say that my major niggle is aging, I got into N gauge just as my eyesight started to throw its hand in, my fingers started to not be as nimble as they once were and don't get me started on my back problems! There is more, believe me there is more.................
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DELETED on March 25, 2016, 11:18:50 PM
I blasted off about my trouble contacting the DWP before but I'm something like 6 weeks in to trying to call them.  4 weeks ago today I luckily got through to someone and they were supposed to send me a letter so I could send to HMRC to correct my tax code as I'm still being deducted for being on Jobseekers benefit today (I was thrown-off Jobseekers 11 months ago for going over my hours one single week -but I couldn't get any work afterwards).  I'm still waiting for the letter as HMRC won't budge until they get proof -VIA ME from the DWP :veryangry:.  DWP closes at 18:00hrs -I finish work at 17:00hrs and an hour on hold still isn't long enough to get through to someone at DWP, I can't wait 30-60mins plus plus on hold on a works phone or my mobile during my working day now I have work :veryangry: :veryangry:.  I sent DWP a formal letter of complaint a week ago, I suppose it's too soon to get an answer but I can see this going to the ombudsman so it's now on a count down. My experience of ombudsmans this past year or so for one other case is they're not much use though :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 26, 2016, 05:18:46 AM
Sounds like you're stuck in a vicious circle. I hope you can get it resolved soon, Rich.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: woodbury22uk on March 26, 2016, 09:48:38 AM
RST. You have to understand how these large (government) organisations work. They look at the mail in date order, and if they have a 2 months backlog it will be 2 months before they touch your letter. Many large business will scan the mail when it arrives then put it in a virtual queue so when you call them they can find it.

That regular recorded answer "we are experiencing large call volumes at the moment" is a clear sign of a business which does not rate customer satisfaction very highly, and receives larger numbers of calls than they are willing to handle.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on March 27, 2016, 11:21:22 AM
Eldest son came to me on Thursday in a bit of a state because his PC start up switch has obviously broken.
I checked it out and sure enough it was  :censored: so we hunted round the net for a replacement.
The only ones we could find were either in the States or China and were duly ordered via Amazon.
Malc Kindly pointed out in answer to my question in the correct section here that would be simply a press to connect switch and I should be able to cobble up a replacement unit from 'stuff' in my railway boxes.
I had managed to get one posted to me by EBay but that wouldn't work either.
It then dawned on me that the problem wasn't the switch but the PSU. Checking that out it was found to be an ex PSU  :veryangry:
Amazon do a direct replacement and I placed an order asking for 24hour delivery.
I thought that paying extra for delivery was for once worth it  :-\
OK Its being delivered today
[/BUTb] the delivery was free :goggleeyes:
The snag being that I was promptly given membership of Amazon prime for a year for a one off payment of £79.  :help:  :veryangry: :veryangry:
Ive got 7 days to cancel things so once the PSU is delivered my membership will (I hope) :-\ be terminated.
I am now sat in a darkened room fuming quietly to myself.  :-[ :censored: :censored: :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on March 27, 2016, 01:16:40 PM
Quote from: jonclox on March 27, 2016, 11:21:22 AM
[/BUTb] the delivery was free :goggleeyes:
The snag being that I was promptly given membership of Amazon prime for a year for a one off payment of £79.  :help:  :veryangry: :veryangry:
Ive got 7 days to cancel things so once the PSU is delivered my membership will (I hope) :-\ be terminated.
I am now sat in a darkened room fuming quietly to myself.  :-[ :censored: :censored: :censored:

Jon,

But with Amazon Prime at least you'll be able to see the new motoring programme with Clarkson, May & Hammond 😉😉

Regards

Neal
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Paul B on March 27, 2016, 01:54:32 PM
Quote from: Calnefoxile on March 27, 2016, 01:16:40 PM
...be able to see the new motoring programme with Clarkson, May & Hammond 😉😉
Neal
:sick: :sick: :sick:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on March 27, 2016, 03:11:31 PM
 :goggleeyes: That's another fine reason to cancel the membership
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 27, 2016, 06:15:53 PM
From what I hear the new BBC one with 7 presenters is going to be a whole lot worse ::)
I'll give it a whirl just to see how bad it is, though.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on March 27, 2016, 07:03:10 PM
Quote from: RST on March 25, 2016, 11:18:50 PM
I blasted off about my trouble contacting the DWP before but I'm something like 6 weeks in to trying to call them.  4 weeks ago today I luckily got through to someone and they were supposed to send me a letter so I could send to HMRC to correct my tax code as I'm still being deducted for being on Jobseekers benefit today (I was thrown-off Jobseekers 11 months ago for going over my hours one single week -but I couldn't get any work afterwards).  I'm still waiting for the letter as HMRC won't budge until they get proof -VIA ME from the DWP :veryangry:.  DWP closes at 18:00hrs -I finish work at 17:00hrs and an hour on hold still isn't long enough to get through to someone at DWP, I can't wait 30-60mins plus plus on hold on a works phone or my mobile during my working day now I have work :veryangry: :veryangry:.  I sent DWP a formal letter of complaint a week ago, I suppose it's too soon to get an answer but I can see this going to the ombudsman so it's now on a count down. My experience of ombudsmans this past year or so for one other case is they're not much use though :'(

I had a problem with the DWP which like yours had me going round in circles. One of my friends told me to email my MP, which I did and 24 hours later my problem was solved. I received a phonecall from a woman at the DWP who asked me a few questions and approximately two hours later all my frustration and worry had gone.

So I would strongly advise you to send off an email to your MP on Tuesday.

Cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on March 27, 2016, 07:13:39 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on March 27, 2016, 07:03:10 PM
Quote from: RST on March 25, 2016, 11:18:50 PM
I blasted off about my trouble contacting the DWP before but I'm something like 6 weeks in to trying to call them.  4 weeks ago today I luckily got through to someone and they were supposed to send me a letter so I could send to HMRC to correct my tax code as I'm still being deducted for being on Jobseekers benefit today (I was thrown-off Jobseekers 11 months ago for going over my hours one single week -but I couldn't get any work afterwards).  I'm still waiting for the letter as HMRC won't budge until they get proof -VIA ME from the DWP :veryangry:.  DWP closes at 18:00hrs -I finish work at 17:00hrs and an hour on hold still isn't long enough to get through to someone at DWP, I can't wait 30-60mins plus plus on hold on a works phone or my mobile during my working day now I have work :veryangry: :veryangry:.  I sent DWP a formal letter of complaint a week ago, I suppose it's too soon to get an answer but I can see this going to the ombudsman so it's now on a count down. My experience of ombudsmans this past year or so for one other case is they're not much use though :'(

I had a problem with the DWP which like yours had me going round in circles. One of my friends told me to email my MP, which I did and 24 hours later my problem was solved. I received a phonecall from a woman at the DWP who asked me a few questions and approximately two hours later all my frustration and worry had gone.

So I would strongly advise you to send off an email to your MP on Tuesday.

Cheers John.

Absolutely!  :thumbsup:

That's one of the (few) reasons they are here.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: 1936ace on March 27, 2016, 11:29:23 PM
Don't you just love it when an online eBay retailer lists an item but the description is not as shown in the photo. Checked their other items and it is the same practice. Item written description not as per item in photo.
Dodgy as !!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: B757-236GT on March 28, 2016, 09:08:21 AM
Dont normally post in here and this is a annoyed post rather than angry one but im currently sat at Heathrow waiting for SQ322 only to find its gone to Manchester with around 25 other long haul flights. I dont mind doing a little planespotting but i didnt bring my camera, notebook or airband radio. Im more angry about that than the flight diversion.
Richard
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 28, 2016, 11:01:01 AM
Knowing what Storm Katy has thrown at Heathrow last night/this morning I'm not surprised it was diverted.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on March 28, 2016, 11:59:59 AM
Quote from: jonclox on March 27, 2016, 11:21:22 AM

OK Its being delivered today
[/BUTb] the delivery was free :goggleeyes:
The snag being that I was promptly given membership of Amazon prime for a year for a one off payment of £79.  :help:  :veryangry: :veryangry:
Ive got 7 days to cancel things so once the PSU is delivered my membership will (I hope) :-\ be terminated.
I am now sat in a darkened room fuming quietly to myself.  :-[ :censored: :censored: :censored:

I would advise that you cancel it yourself or you could find that by not cancelling means you agree have it.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on March 28, 2016, 12:03:05 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 28, 2016, 11:01:01 AM
Knowing what Storm Katy has thrown at Heathrow last night/this morning I'm not surprised it was diverted.

I'm amused by the whingers who were supposed to fly into Gatwick yesterday evening/this morning who found themselves at Stansted or East Midlands when their 'plane finally got back to Terra Firma. Maybe they should just be grateful to their pilots and the ATC that they're back on the ground in one piece...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on March 28, 2016, 03:20:17 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on March 28, 2016, 11:59:59 AM
Quote from: jonclox on March 27, 2016, 11:21:22 AM

OK Its being delivered today
[/BUTb] the delivery was free :goggleeyes:
The snag being that I was promptly given membership of Amazon prime for a year for a one off payment of £79.  :help:  :veryangry: :veryangry:
Ive got 7 days to cancel things so once the PSU is delivered my membership will (I hope) :-\ be terminated.
I am now sat in a darkened room fuming quietly to myself.  :-[ :censored: :censored: :censored:
Thanks Bikeracer I have already done that and the trial membership is scheduled to run out on Friday  :thumbsup:

I would advise that you cancel it yourself or you could find that by not cancelling means you agree have it.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: B757-236GT on March 28, 2016, 08:52:56 PM
I wasnt too bothered about the diversion, theres a reason there are minimum landing requirements especially for a slab sided A380. They did arrive around 11 with the crew having done a near 19 hour day so im sure they were happy to get off. What really bugged me was i hadnt brought any of my kit and i was sat watching planes. Even caught a sight of one of Mr Williams A350s which Finnair kindly brought in for the day but no camera  :censored:

Oh well alls well now.

Richard
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on March 29, 2016, 11:27:49 AM
Very angry 😠  :veryangry: Just doing my monthly file backup and appear to have lost over 10g of you tube downloads because the memory card that they were on has decided to throw a wobbly.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on March 30, 2016, 11:15:03 AM
Quote from: Bikeracer on March 28, 2016, 11:59:59 AM
Quote from: jonclox on March 27, 2016, 11:21:22 AM

OK Its being delivered today
[/BUTb] the delivery was free :goggleeyes:
The snag being that I was promptly given membership of Amazon prime for a year for a one off payment of £79.  :help:  :veryangry: :veryangry:
Ive got 7 days to cancel things so once the PSU is delivered my membership will (I hope) :-\ be terminated.
I am now sat in a darkened room fuming quietly to myself.  :-[ :censored: :censored: :censored:
It gets better.
Amazon have now email mew to say that my Prime a/c is defiantly going to be closed on Thursday/Friday at no cost to myself
I would advise that you cancel it yourself or you could find that by not cancelling means you agree have it.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldun on April 02, 2016, 11:53:00 AM
Just noticed my monthly payment for my TV licence has sneaked up by 0.06p. Doesn't sound a lot I know
but, if you take that & multiply by 12 = 0.72p - still doesn't sound a lot  :no:

Now multiply that by say, 25,000,000 licences and the crafty :censored: have just made £18,000,000  :veryangry:

Roger
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on April 02, 2016, 05:56:50 PM
Just had to replace my mobile phone sadly dropped the old one down the toilet by accident.
Managed to retrieve the Sim card and memory card but the rest was :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 02, 2016, 06:10:44 PM
Quote from: Oldman on April 02, 2016, 05:56:50 PM
Just had to replace my mobile phone sadly dropped the old one down the toilet by accident.
Managed to retrieve the Sim card and memory card but the rest was :censored:

Is that an insurance jobbie, or just a jobbie? :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on April 02, 2016, 06:50:20 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 02, 2016, 06:10:44 PM
Quote from: Oldman on April 02, 2016, 05:56:50 PM
Just had to replace my mobile phone sadly dropped the old one down the toilet by accident.
Managed to retrieve the Sim card and memory card but the rest was :censored:

Is that an insurance jobbie, or just a jobbie? :doh:
Just a new phone not insurance all I did was put it on the the cistern while I had a wee, forgot it was on vibration mode
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on April 02, 2016, 06:56:38 PM
Going to the toilet with your telephone could harm your reputation as a "gumpy old git" :(

Best regards,


Joe
(even grumpier old git)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on April 03, 2016, 10:19:12 AM
 :veryangry: :veryangry: :censored:
Started back on another dose of steroids

I is NOT amused  :veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on April 03, 2016, 01:04:01 PM
Quote from: jonclox on April 03, 2016, 10:19:12 AM
:veryangry: :veryangry: :censored:
Started back on another dose of steroids

I is NOT amused  :veryangry: :veryangry:
My doctor has stopped me taking them because I seem to have been having adverse side effects to them.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on April 03, 2016, 02:06:17 PM
2 days taking them seem to be enough for me but  GP says take for a full week   :-X
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on April 03, 2016, 02:08:05 PM
'...all I did was put it on the the cistern while I had a wee, forgot it was on vibration mode'

A vibrating toilet?

Now, there's a thing!!  :laugh:

Sorry about the steroids. Hope you can get rid pronto.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on April 04, 2016, 02:56:11 PM
 :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry: Ordered a pack of M8 Tee nuts for the lightweight layout joints the other week  and didn't open them till today just to check all is OK :doh:
What a  :censored: I should have ordered the M6 size,
Cant remember who I ordered them from etc.etc so now stuck with 50 of the damn things  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 04, 2016, 03:28:26 PM
It's enough to drive you nuts, Jon :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on April 05, 2016, 01:44:38 AM
I think one of you has a screw loose
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 05, 2016, 05:00:41 AM
Time to make a bolt for it :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on April 05, 2016, 09:18:31 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on April 05, 2016, 01:44:38 AM
I think one of you has a screw loose

We all have   :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tom U on April 05, 2016, 09:38:18 AM
This  topic is supposed to be angry...if you keep pitching in with jokes on the thread, a mod may come along with loctite  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on April 05, 2016, 10:15:43 AM
Oh alright then!

I'm Very Cross!  :veryangry2:

Why have BMW supplied a whole heap of their cars without working indicators? Is it a cost saving exercise or have they goofed and put the stalk in the boot rather than on the steering column?

Anyway, I think we're all a bit unhinged.

There!

Better?  :wave:

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: woodbury22uk on April 05, 2016, 10:24:10 AM
Quote from: daveg on April 05, 2016, 10:15:43 AM
Oh alright then!

I'm Very Cross!  :veryangry2:

Why have BMW supplied a whole heap of their cars without working indicators? Is it a cost saving exercise or have they goofed and put the stalk in the boot rather than on the steering column?

Anyway, I think we're all a bit unhinged.

There!

Better?  :wave:

Dave G

Generally it is a loose nut at the wheel. Or was that the previous topic.

The M20/M25/M26/M40 was awash with 16 reg cars using daytime running lights in the fog on Sunday morning. Did no-one tell the drivers that they have no rear lights showing with their DRLs on? Recipe for a rear-end shunt from an Audi or BMW with loose-nut syndrome.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 05, 2016, 11:19:40 AM
Quote from: daveg on April 05, 2016, 10:15:43 AM
Oh alright then!

I'm Very Cross!  :veryangry2:

Why have BMW supplied a whole heap of their cars without working indicators? Is it a cost saving exercise or have they goofed and put the stalk in the boot rather than on the steering column?

Dave G

Having ridden motorbikes for many years (even though a good 40 years ago) I know from experience that indicators on BMWs are an optional extra which no one seems to take up :unimpressed:

Quote from: woodbury22uk on April 05, 2016, 10:24:10 AM


The M20/M25/M26/M40 was awash with 16 reg cars using daytime running lights in the fog on Sunday morning. Did no-one tell the drivers that they have no rear lights showing with their DRLs on? Recipe for a rear-end shunt from an Audi or BMW with loose-nut syndrome.



What about those who insist on using their fog lights at the first appearance of light mist? I haven't seen a fog for years which would make me use them but I do tend to use them in heavy spray on motorways.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on April 05, 2016, 11:57:17 AM
Apparently the fog was so bad on Sunday that BMW drivers doing 80mph were forced to leave a 4ft gap between them and the car in front.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on April 05, 2016, 12:07:05 PM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on April 05, 2016, 12:51:37 PM
Wow Malc! You could almost get a Smart in between them!

I'm afraid I slow right down when I am being tailgated but it is scary how close some people will drive. I wonder if it's to (try to) make you go faster or is it they are totally clueless about stopping distances?

On the fog light bit, I will use them at night in the lanes as it help spot the wildlife lurking in the verges but rarely use them on the main roads.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 05, 2016, 03:09:04 PM
Quote from: daveg on April 05, 2016, 12:51:37 PM

On the fog light bit, I will use them at night in the lanes as it help spot the wildlife lurking in the verges but rarely use them on the main roads.

Dave G

I'm moaning more about the rear red ones, Dave, unless of course you drive down the lanes in reverse trying to sneak up on the wildlife :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on April 05, 2016, 03:25:21 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 05, 2016, 03:09:04 PM
Quote from: daveg on April 05, 2016, 12:51:37 PM

On the fog light bit, I will use them at night in the lanes as it help spot the wildlife lurking in the verges but rarely use them on the main roads.

Dave G

I'm moaning more about the rear red ones, Dave, unless of course you drive down the lanes in reverse trying to sneak up on the wildlife :P

Completely agree with that, Mick.

Most cars fitted with the High Intensity rear light(s) have a warning lamp on the dash - BMWs, of course,  excepted.  ;)

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on April 05, 2016, 03:40:36 PM
Talking of fog lights. I don't know why, but at least half the cars in Ireland are driven with front fog lights permanently on and that is with just sidelights in daylight.  :veryangry: At night, it is dipped beam - and front fog lights. I don't know whether drivers are using them as daytime running lights or not - maybe they are taught to do this when they take driving lessons  ???. I think I have had my fog lights on about 3 times this winter.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on April 05, 2016, 04:43:56 PM
Quote from: Only Me on April 05, 2016, 03:33:42 PM
Quote from: daveg on April 05, 2016, 03:25:21 PM

Most cars fitted with the High Intensity rear light(s) have a warning lamp on the dash - BMWs, of course,  excepted.  ;)

Dave G

I would like to object on the grounds that you are only jealous your Rover 214i does not have such a device :D

That's so-o hurtful, especially for those with a much loved 214i.  :P

My dad had one of those and by the time he gave up driving, it had collected a minor ding in every single panel and a layer of moss around the window seals!  :)

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on April 05, 2016, 06:42:33 PM
Quote from: jonclox on April 04, 2016, 02:56:11 PM
:veryangry: :censored: :veryangry: Ordered a pack of M8 Tee nuts

Couldn't you have them for breakfast instead.   ;)    Okay, okay, I've got me coat.   :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 05, 2016, 09:09:38 PM
Quote from: Caz on April 05, 2016, 06:42:33 PM
Quote from: jonclox on April 04, 2016, 02:56:11 PM
:veryangry: :censored: :veryangry: Ordered a pack of M8 Tee nuts

Couldn't you have them for breakfast instead.   ;)    Okay, okay, I've got me coat.   :)

:-X
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on May 01, 2016, 12:40:53 PM
Totally fed up, am on elderly mother duty for a month and don't have space here for any model stuff. My current space equivalent to a single berth on a very small boat, even junior ratings aboard in the Navy have more space
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on May 06, 2016, 11:02:43 AM
 :veryangry: :veryangry: :censored: Dapol have once again delayed delivery of its class 73 Pullman locos until September 2016
:veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on May 06, 2016, 07:00:31 PM
Quote from: jonclox on May 06, 2016, 11:02:43 AM
:veryangry: :veryangry: :censored: Dapol have once again delayed delivery of its class 73 Pullman locos until September 2016
:veryangry: :veryangry:

Picked that news up this morning, Jon. Posted the info on the original Class 73 thread.

Darned maddening as it must be well over 6 months overdue now

At least I have my order confirmed so I'm still expecting to see it - some time!

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 16, 2016, 03:42:27 PM
Having had my last meeting with the 'black box' consultant cancelled I had not heard from the hospital so thought I'd better call them, especially as I have a meeting with his team on 26th May.
For 4 hours this morning I got the "we are experiencing high levels of calls. Please call back later".
At 14.30 I finally got through and was told my appointment with the consultant was on the 27th May.
My query as to whether they were actually going to inform me of that or were they hoping I would, for some reason, call them fell on deaf ears. ::)
I explained to the woman that it was a 60 mile round trip for me and that, as I was not allowed to drive my car, someone else had to bring me so was it possible to have both meetings on the same day so as to make just the one trip. I await their call to see what sort of shambles they've arranged.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GeeBee on May 16, 2016, 03:49:38 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on May 16, 2016, 03:42:27 PM
Having had my last meeting with the 'black box' consultant cancelled I had not heard from the hospital so thought I'd better call them, especially as I have a meeting with his team on 26th May.
For 4 hours this morning I got the "we are experiencing high levels of calls. Please call back later".
At 14.30 I finally got through and was told my appointment with the consultant was on the 27th May.
My query as to whether they were actually going to inform me of that or were they hoping I would, for some reason, call them fell on deaf ears. ::)
I explained to the woman that it was a 60 mile round trip for me and that, as I was not allowed to drive my car, someone else had to bring me so was it possible to have both meetings on the same day so as to make just the one trip. I await their call to see what sort of shambles they've arranged.

Sorry to hear this Mick you definitely don't need this type of runaround but look on the bright side you might get to spend some time with some dolly looking nurses
:laugh3:
Graham
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 16, 2016, 08:03:01 PM
Quote from: GeeBee on May 16, 2016, 03:49:38 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on May 16, 2016, 03:42:27 PM
Having had my last meeting with the 'black box' consultant cancelled I had not heard from the hospital so thought I'd better call them, especially as I have a meeting with his team on 26th May.
For 4 hours this morning I got the "we are experiencing high levels of calls. Please call back later".
At 14.30 I finally got through and was told my appointment with the consultant was on the 27th May.
My query as to whether they were actually going to inform me of that or were they hoping I would, for some reason, call them fell on deaf ears. ::)
I explained to the woman that it was a 60 mile round trip for me and that, as I was not allowed to drive my car, someone else had to bring me so was it possible to have both meetings on the same day so as to make just the one trip. I await their call to see what sort of shambles they've arranged.

Sorry to hear this Mick you definitely don't need this type of runaround but look on the bright side you might get to spend some time with some dolly looking nurses
:laugh3:
Graham

They are very few and far between at Blackpool, Graham. In fact, it's another thing that makes me angry when I go to the hospital there as I see countless posters about the evils of tobacco, drink and being overweight yet, from what I've seen, the majority of the nurses there are clinically obese!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on May 19, 2016, 11:21:08 AM
It's the old, "do as I say, not as I do" thing, Mick. My old doctor drank like a fish, mainly single malts, and smoked an old pipe that he filled with tarred rope. He never told you to give up drinking or smoking. It was a great loss when he dropped dead at 30. Just kidding, he was about 65 when he retired.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on May 26, 2016, 10:13:28 PM
Arrive at one of my local stations to see Flying Scotsman go through and the  :censored: :censored: camera battery decided to die just as it came into view, :censored: more expense at Samsung's benefit.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on May 26, 2016, 11:43:48 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on May 16, 2016, 03:42:27 PM
Having had my last meeting with the 'black box' consultant cancelled I had not heard from the hospital so thought I'd better call them, especially as I have a meeting with his team on 26th May.
For 4 hours this morning I got the "we are experiencing high levels of calls. Please call back later".
At 14.30 I finally got through and was told my appointment with the consultant was on the 27th May.
My query as to whether they were actually going to inform me of that or were they hoping I would, for some reason, call them fell on deaf ears. ::)
I explained to the woman that it was a 60 mile round trip for me and that, as I was not allowed to drive my car, someone else had to bring me so was it possible to have both meetings on the same day so as to make just the one trip. I await their call to see what sort of shambles they've arranged.

The NHS can either be really good or atrocious.

At Christmas we went to visit relatives in Ireland. Within an hour of arriving, our eldest son (12) had a fit - he'd never had any health problems before. It was a full tonic clonic (grand mal) with one-sided distortion of his face. Such fits normally last 3 or 4 minutes and then the person is either very sleepy or confused. In our son's case though, it was nearly 8 minutes, followed by a full cardio-respiratory arrest. Luckily my wife is a nurse and managed to resuscitate him.  :o

While we were still over there we contacted our GP and had his hospital notes faxed over. In light of the severity of the after-effects of the seizure, the GP said he'd make an urgent referral, but forgot to put urgent on the letter and 3 weeks later it was still sitting with his back office staff.

We were then told that it would be 3 months before an appointment at Manchester children's hospital or a couple of weeks at our local hospital, so we chose the local one.

The consultant dismissed it, basically stating that it might be epilepsy, but we'd just have to wait for another fit to confirm it. A bit difficult as he could be killed by another such fit and has to travel to school for an hour on the bus where he'd be unlikely to get help in time.  :veryangry:

We ended up paying for a private consultant, who recommended an MRI scan to our GP. Our GP referred to the local hospital and we spent months waiting for a scan, as the local hospital only treats over 14s and referred to the children's hospital, while the children's hospital kept referring back to the local hospital as he was over 12!!!!!  :censored:

He finally had a scan a couple of weeks ago and we are due to get the results on 8th June. Luckily there have been no further fits, but he has suffered from headaches and double vision. At the moment we don't know whether it was a one off (a large percentage of the population have a one-off fit at some point); epilepsy; a bleed on the brain; a tumour ...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on May 26, 2016, 11:49:36 PM
That must have been terrifying for you and it is a wonder you kept your temper with that letter.

I hope you get an answer in June and it is good news.

Cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on May 27, 2016, 01:09:59 AM
A horrible experience indeed. All the best - let's hope it's good news.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on May 27, 2016, 08:35:08 AM
Crickey! What a thing to happen. Must have been very scary for all of you, especially your son

So stupid being sent back and forth like that.

Do hope the forthcoming news is good and you can stop worrying.

All the best.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 27, 2016, 01:20:23 PM
Quote from: stevewalker on May 26, 2016, 11:43:48 PM

The NHS can either be really good or atrocious.


Ain't that the truth! They can turn a drama into a crisis or vice versa ::) In my experience the front line folks like nurses and surgeons who actually get their hands 'dirty' are wonderful whereas the rest are a waste of space.
Steve - I hope all goes well with the results and that your son, for whatever reason, has just had a one off episode of fitting. I was not aware a large percentage of the population suffered such a thing :dunce:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on May 29, 2016, 01:25:56 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on May 27, 2016, 01:20:23 PM
Steve - I hope all goes well with the results and that your son, for whatever reason, has just had a one off episode of fitting. I was not aware a large percentage of the population suffered such a thing :dunce:

Thanks for that.

I was only aware that so many people had one off fits as I had one myself some years ago and learnt this at the time. At least in my case we knew the cause. I'd been suffering from severe and prolonged coughing for weeks and one episode caused a fit (cough syncope). The good thing is that I had been so ill that I'd not been able to do anything for days and with violent headaches due to coughing, so I know that I'd have to be very bad to be at any risk of it happening again.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on June 08, 2016, 11:29:53 AM
Now very, very  :censored: with the NHS.

Today we were due to attend the hospital appointment for our eldest son (James). The appointment was for the results of a long awaited MRI scan and discussions of the possibilities and which way to go following his seizure and subsequent cardio-respiratory arrest (see previous posts).

To confuse matters, his younger brothers (Liam and Darragh) are still off school this week, while he is back and my parents are abroad, so no childcare. We decided that Darragh could come in with us, but that we didn't want Liam with us, as he finds it all quite upsetting. Hence we made arrangements for Liam to attend a music class for the day. That meant getting him there at 9:00, picking James up from school at 11:15, hospital appointment at 12:00 and picking-up Liam at 15:00.

My wife is also ill, suffering severe dizziness, so she couldn't do the music runs and I had to take the whole day off - unpaid  :( Just when finances are very tight, my hours are reduced and my wife's long term health problems (not the dizziness) mean that she is on very low sick pay and due to end up out of work in a couple of weeks.

As if that wasn't bad enough the hospital phoned at 10:05 and told us that the consultant is not in today and, due to human error, they forgot to tell any of his patients for today's clinic about it last week! So the whole day is wasted, I've lost desperately needed money and I'll still have to take even more time off for the re-arranged appointment  :'(

The good news is that they were able to tell us over the phone that the scan report says nothing was visible  :bounce: and they'll re-arrange the appointment for further discussions.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GaryAlan on June 08, 2016, 12:54:07 PM
I can relate to what you've said Steve, I'd be pretty mad too.  Good to hear the good news though, best wishes.

Gary
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 08, 2016, 04:03:20 PM
Quote from: stevewalker on June 08, 2016, 11:29:53 AM

The good news is that they were able to tell us over the phone that the scan report says nothing was visible  :bounce: and they'll re-arrange the appointment for further discussions.

Glad there was some good news to emerge from the debacle, Steve, as the rest is just appalling and sums up the slackness of the appointments people who just don't think about who they're shuffling around. A couple of weeks ago I had an appointment on a Thursday with the team who collect the readings from my I.C.D. implant (note please I do not have an I.E.D. implant :no:), but then they sent me a letter asking me to see the consultant who actually did the implant operation on the next day, Friday. I rang the appointment line and told them I was unable to drive as I'd surrendered my licence for 6 months (a condition of having the I.C.D. fitted), that it was a 60 mile round trip to Blackpool and that I was reliant on a relative to get me there so could they let me see the consultant on the Thursday so it was just the one trip. The answer was 'No'. I then asked if the appointment with the team could be put back to the Friday and again the answer was 'No'. I told them to think again and call me back which, surprisingly, they did and I made just the one trip for the 2 appointments.
I have now filed a complaint against these backroom  :censored:
The guys and gals who do the actual work on the wards are fantastic but, well, you just have to think 'doctor's receptionist' to sum up the rest.
Rant over (until the next time)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: David Asquith on June 08, 2016, 04:22:22 PM
Steve,  glad to hear you got some good(ish) news out of that administrative debacle.  I'm sure the acronym REMF
would have been used liberally in military, especially US, circles.  Life is not easy or fair to some people.  I hope things improve for your whole family.

Mick,  Some things don't change eh?  Glad commonsense prevailed in the end.

Best regards

Dave
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 08, 2016, 10:09:33 PM
Quote from: Espantrainfan on June 08, 2016, 04:22:22 PM
I'm sure the acronym REMF would have been used liberally in military, especially US, circles.

Dave - I think the other one beginning with 'S' and ending in 'U' would describe things better.
I won't put the whole thing in the post in case the Mods take a dim view of it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: David Asquith on June 08, 2016, 11:19:23 PM
Yeah Mick you are right but mine caused yours.  Get it?

regards

Dave
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on June 11, 2016, 06:38:46 PM
Last couple of days I updated my Windows phone (Lumia 930) to Windows 10.
I thought the update would remember all my 8.1 settings and after the update I would have a nice new phone with all the previous features plus a few more.
WRONG!!!!
I had to re log in to my Windows account and email account and reset just about everything. I was told I could get all my previous information from my backup in the 'cloud'
WRONG!!!!
All I managed to get was my contacts and a couple of other things.
Then I found that many of the apps I used, including the Microsoft ones, no longer worked or had to be updated....
OK did all that and everything was working but DIFFERENT!!! Everything was there but all the buttons/controls were in different places or called something different. Things appeared in different places, things had different fonts and sizes.
Nothing was really better just DIFFERENT!!!
So after 2 or 3 days I've pretty much got everything back to something like it was before.
Was the update to W10 worth it?? Definitely not - just a lot of unnecessary pain for nothing.
I expect that Microsoft will soon force everyone to update to W10. God help you all.. Or go buy an Android phone.
:censored: :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mito on June 14, 2016, 05:56:56 PM
Bad start to the week. My wife is disabled and we always park in a disabled zone. It was closed off by the police so we parked in a normal zone. Got back to the car to find a parking ticket. Parking is free for disabled people in this part of the world. I spoke to the ticket warden and her reply was "sorry can't do anything". My reply should have been "you can but don't want to" but I always think too late. Now we have to make a claim to have the fine canceled. A waste of time for us and the town hall. Disabled people have a tough enough time with out being harassed by petty bureaucracy and incompetence.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GeeBee on June 14, 2016, 11:36:26 PM
Having just had good news on PIP I now seem to be suffering the results of 8 weeks of extreme stress that went before the good news had the doctor out twice and he is now saying if I don't improve he will put me back in hospital  :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GaryAlan on June 15, 2016, 07:27:03 AM
Someone asks a 'novice and simple' question on the forum which could be answered in a simple yes or no answer, and be done with, but no it turns into a 4 page 'tit for tat' about things that the original poster stated in his first post as 'not important'.  I wonder how many new modelers have been put off by this?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 15, 2016, 09:52:28 AM
Quote from: GeeBee on June 14, 2016, 11:36:26 PM
Having just had good news on PIP I now seem to be suffering the results of 8 weeks of extreme stress that went before the good news had the doctor out twice and he is now saying if I don't improve he will put me back in hospital  :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry:

Very sorry to hear that, Graham. I don't think the doc is being helpful there as he is adding to your stress with his threat ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mito on June 15, 2016, 11:55:22 AM
Quote from: GeeBee on June 14, 2016, 11:36:26 PM
Having just had good news on PIP I now seem to be suffering the results of 8 weeks of extreme stress that went before the good news had the doctor out twice and he is now saying if I don't improve he will put me back in hospital  :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry:

Stress is very difficult to overcome. I manage at times by sitting in a comfortable chair and starting with my toes I try to relax them. When relaxed I slowly move up the body relaxing the muscles. At the same time I take deep slow breaths and on exhaling think relax. I find after 10 or 15 minutes I am much more relaxed and able to cope. If I relax too much I fall asleep. :sleep:
I hope this helps.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GeeBee on June 15, 2016, 01:48:15 PM
Quote from: Mito on June 15, 2016, 11:55:22 AM
Quote from: GeeBee on June 14, 2016, 11:36:26 PM
Having just had good news on PIP I now seem to be suffering the results of 8 weeks of extreme stress that went before the good news had the doctor out twice and he is now saying if I don't improve he will put me back in hospital  :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry:

Stress is very difficult to overcome. I manage at times by sitting in a comfortable chair and starting with my toes I try to relax them. When relaxed I slowly move up the body relaxing the muscles. At the same time I take deep slow breaths and on exhaling think relax. I find after 10 or 15 minutes I am much more relaxed and able to cope. If I relax too much I fall asleep. :sleep:
I hope this helps.

Thanks Mito, but the doctor has said if I fell sleepy I must go for a walk best I can manage on a good day 100 yds
this should be good
:hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GeeBee on June 15, 2016, 09:52:11 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on June 15, 2016, 09:52:28 AM
Quote from: GeeBee on June 14, 2016, 11:36:26 PM
Having just had good news on PIP I now seem to be suffering the results of 8 weeks of extreme stress that went before the good news had the doctor out twice and he is now saying if I don't improve he will put me back in hospital  :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry:

Very sorry to hear that, Graham. I don't think the doc is being helpful there as he is adding to your stress with his threat ::)

Personally I think they are guessing, wet finger in the air, eenie meanie miney mo etc
:goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on June 16, 2016, 08:59:10 AM
Quote from: GeeBee on June 15, 2016, 01:48:15 PM
Quote from: Mito on June 15, 2016, 11:55:22 AM
Quote from: GeeBee on June 14, 2016, 11:36:26 PM
Having just had good news on PIP I now seem to be suffering the results of 8 weeks of extreme stress that went before the good news had the doctor out twice and he is now saying if I don't improve he will put me back in hospital  :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry:

Stress is very difficult to overcome. I manage at times by sitting in a comfortable chair and starting with my toes I try to relax them. When relaxed I slowly move up the body relaxing the muscles. At the same time I take deep slow breaths and on exhaling think relax. I find after 10 or 15 minutes I am much more relaxed and able to cope. If I relax too much I fall asleep. :sleep:
I hope this helps.

Thanks Mito, but the doctor has said if I fell sleepy I must go for a walk best I can manage on a good day 100 yds
this should be good
:hmmm:

ok if you have a premierinn within 100 yds, otherwise remember to turn back after 50 yds : :smiley-laughing:

:censored: doctors . went to mine before Christmas with a bad back, been playing up for over six weeks, and he was more interested that I wasn't taking the statins he'd tried to force me to take.
told him I'd rather risk the 10% chance of a heart attack than the side effects as stated by NHS website.
total waste of time and space  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on June 16, 2016, 10:52:31 AM
Feeling decidedly hungry and want my first coffee of the day, hospital phoned to put my camera thingy back an hour😠
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 16, 2016, 02:36:59 PM
Don't you just hate it when that happens and you've had nothing to eat or drink since 10pm the night before but water :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on June 16, 2016, 03:50:08 PM
 well I am back home but bonus points I was offered a coffee before I was allowed to leave.
Don't like local anaesthetic but that is all they will give me. 8 biopsies taken and barium swallow on Monday
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GeeBee on June 21, 2016, 11:08:30 PM
Well here we go again 3 days feeling great and now temp of 38.6, I ache in every joint one minute shivering next minute sweating comment from the Dr this must be another virus well what a surprise  :censored:  :sick2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on July 07, 2016, 10:56:11 AM
 :doh: 4weeks or so ago I got the  doctor to change a new medication back to the good old  fashioned one I had been on for years :thumbsup: 'it will take a couple of weeks to take effect' Im told  :hmmm:
Im still suffering from the aftermath and if any thing getting worse  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 07, 2016, 01:05:58 PM
I'm sure you've told the doc but I'm sorry to hear things aren't back to the way you want them yet, Jon.

In the meantime I severely ricked my back doing a spot of gardening and window washing yesterday, to the extent I can hardly move without pain spasms. It's difficult to sit down as I can hardly get up, and I had to use the help of a crutch this morning to get out of bed. Just hope it eases itself out over the next couple of days :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on July 07, 2016, 01:12:01 PM
Quote from: jonclox on July 07, 2016, 10:56:11 AM
:doh: 4weeks or so ago I got the  doctor to change a new medication back to the good old  fashioned one I had been on for years :thumbsup: 'it will take a couple of weeks to take effect' Im told  :hmmm:
Im still suffering from the aftermath and if any thing getting worse  :thumbsdown:

This is the worst time when you have to wait weeks before the pills kick in  :veryangry:

Quote from: newportnobby on July 07, 2016, 01:05:58 PM

I had to use the help of a crutch this morning to get out of bed


Who was brave enough to let you use their crutch  :worried: :worried: :worried:

Cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on July 07, 2016, 03:58:07 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on July 07, 2016, 01:12:01 PM
Quote from: jonclox on July 07, 2016, 10:56:11 AM
:doh: 4weeks or so ago I got the  doctor to change a new medication back to the good old  fashioned one I had been on for years :thumbsup: 'it will take a couple of weeks to take effect' Im told  :hmmm:
Im still suffering from the aftermath and if any thing getting worse  :thumbsdown:

This is the worst time when you have to wait weeks before the pills kick in  :veryangry:

Quote from: newportnobby on July 07, 2016, 01:05:58 PM

I had to use the help of a crutch this morning to get out of bed


Who was brave enough to let you use their crutch  :worried: :worried: :worried:

Cheers John.

Always good to get support and sympathy from your NGF pals!  :no:

Joking aside, hope you are both on the road to recovery soon.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 07, 2016, 05:16:29 PM
Thanks, Dave.
I know I can always bank on tea and sympathy from Scotsoft. Well - perhaps not the tea and the sympathy is very occasional, come to think of it. ;) :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Graham Walters on July 07, 2016, 08:02:25 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 07, 2016, 01:05:58 PM
I'm sure you've told the doc but I'm sorry to hear things aren't back to the way you want them yet, Jon.

In the meantime I severely ricked my back doing a spot of gardening and window washing yesterday, to the extent I can hardly move without pain spasms. It's difficult to sit down as I can hardly get up, and I had to use the help of a crutch this morning to get out of bed. Just hope it eases itself out over the next couple of days :uneasy:

Tramadol   works wonders !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 07, 2016, 08:12:13 PM
Quote from: Graham Walters on July 07, 2016, 08:02:25 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 07, 2016, 01:05:58 PM
I'm sure you've told the doc but I'm sorry to hear things aren't back to the way you want them yet, Jon.

In the meantime I severely ricked my back doing a spot of gardening and window washing yesterday, to the extent I can hardly move without pain spasms. It's difficult to sit down as I can hardly get up, and I had to use the help of a crutch this morning to get out of bed. Just hope it eases itself out over the next couple of days :uneasy:

Tramadol   works wonders !

I believe it is quite difficult to operate a laptop whilst being on the ceiling, though :laugh3:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Graham Walters on July 07, 2016, 09:36:08 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 07, 2016, 08:12:13 PM
Quote from: Graham Walters on July 07, 2016, 08:02:25 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 07, 2016, 01:05:58 PM
I'm sure you've told the doc but I'm sorry to hear things aren't back to the way you want them yet, Jon.

In the meantime I severely ricked my back doing a spot of gardening and window washing yesterday, to the extent I can hardly move without pain spasms. It's difficult to sit down as I can hardly get up, and I had to use the help of a crutch this morning to get out of bed. Just hope it eases itself out over the next couple of days :uneasy:

Tramadol   works wonders !

I believe it is quite difficult to operate a laptop whilst being on the ceiling, though :laugh3:

I see to have acquired that skill
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GeeBee on July 07, 2016, 11:03:46 PM
Mick sorry to hear that both you and Jonclox are poorly again best wishes for your recoveries
Graham
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 11, 2016, 01:52:40 PM
Quote from: Graham Walters on July 07, 2016, 08:02:25 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 07, 2016, 01:05:58 PM
I'm sure you've told the doc but I'm sorry to hear things aren't back to the way you want them yet, Jon.

In the meantime I severely ricked my back doing a spot of gardening and window washing yesterday, to the extent I can hardly move without pain spasms. It's difficult to sit down as I can hardly get up, and I had to use the help of a crutch this morning to get out of bed. Just hope it eases itself out over the next couple of days :uneasy:

Tramadol   works wonders !

@scotsoft (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=461) @Lawrence (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=16)
I'll be able to check that as I have just been prescribed a week on Tramadol
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on July 11, 2016, 03:07:15 PM
Beware of side effects, Tramadol and me did not get on one bit. I think I suffered from every side effect listed and the doctor had to change me over to another pain killer I can't remember the name of.

I wish you well with it as I believe it is a very effective pill if you get no side effects.

Cheers John.
@newportnobby (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on July 11, 2016, 04:49:07 PM
Tramadol and me did not work how the doctor wanted, 2 pills and I was out for the count for about 18 hours
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 11, 2016, 08:35:51 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on July 11, 2016, 03:07:15 PM
Beware of side effects, Tramadol and me did not get on one bit. I think I suffered from every side effect listed and the doctor had to change me over to another pain killer I can't remember the name of.

I wish you well with it as I believe it is a very effective pill if you get no side effects.

Cheers John.
@newportnobby (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)

I don't believe Tramadol is a painkiller, John. The idea of it is to make me more relaxed so the trapped nerve will ease itself out. Just hope I don't relax too much, especially in bed :worried: :poop:
Painkillers, although welcome if they work, only mask a problem rather than solve it. So far, ibuprofen anti inflammatories and Co-codomol painkillers have only had the effect of making things worse :doh:

Quote from: Oldman on July 11, 2016, 04:49:07 PM
Tramadol and me did not work how the doctor wanted, 2 pills and I was out for the count for about 18 hours

Considering how much sleep I have lost maybe that would be no bad thing :hmmm: :sleep:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on July 11, 2016, 11:42:04 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 11, 2016, 08:35:51 PM
Quote from: scotsoft on July 11, 2016, 03:07:15 PM
Beware of side effects, Tramadol and me did not get on one bit. I think I suffered from every side effect listed and the doctor had to change me over to another pain killer I can't remember the name of.

I wish you well with it as I believe it is a very effective pill if you get no side effects.

Cheers John.
@newportnobby (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)

I don't believe Tramadol is a painkiller, John. The idea of it is to make me more relaxed so the trapped nerve will ease itself out. Just hope I don't relax too much, especially in bed :worried: :poop:
Painkillers, although welcome if they work, only mask a problem rather than solve it. So far, ibuprofen anti inflammatories and Co-codomol painkillers have only had the effect of making things worse :doh:

Quote from: Oldman on July 11, 2016, 04:49:07 PM
Tramadol and me did not work how the doctor wanted, 2 pills and I was out for the count for about 18 hours

Considering how much sleep I have lost maybe that would be no bad thing :hmmm: :sleep:

Mick, please be VERY careful with Tramadol. It is also very addictive and it took me 9 months to get off it when I was prescribed it for 5 broken ribs, a couple of torn costal cartilages etc.  :'( I started on 8 a day and had to wean myself off them but every step down was an absolute nightmare, just ask the wife! I got down to 4, then 3 for about 2 days, then decided to go cold turkey. I had a horrenderous week or so but I'm glad I did it that way in the end.
Just be careful mate :thumbsup:

EDIT: How DO you spell horrenderous?  :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on July 11, 2016, 11:45:19 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on July 11, 2016, 11:42:04 PM
How DO you spell horrenderous?  :o

'orrible'  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 12, 2016, 10:17:12 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on July 11, 2016, 11:42:04 PM

EDIT: How DO you spell horrenderous?  :o

It's just 'horrendous', John :thumbsup:

Thanks for the warning but I am on just 2 tablets a day and we are reviewing it after 1 week (so why did she prescribe me 50 tablets I wonder ???)
I'm sure if I can go cold turkey on 50 years of smoking I can boot a couple of Tramadols into touch.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on July 12, 2016, 02:40:56 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 07, 2016, 01:05:58 PM
I'm sure you've told the doc but I'm sorry to hear things aren't back to the way you want them yet, Jon.

In the meantime I severely ricked my back doing a spot of gardening and window washing yesterday, to the extent I can hardly move without pain spasms. It's difficult to sit down as I can hardly get up, and I had to use the help of a crutch this morning to get out of bed. Just hope it eases itself out over the next couple of days :uneasy:
OUCH . hope by now the backs sorted you itself out and your on the mend.
Back pain is about the worst you can suffer with.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on July 12, 2016, 02:59:18 PM
It seems this 'Angry Thread' has turned into a 'Medical Complaint' thread  :)

Today is Tuesday - we get our bins and recycling collected today - one can't go anywhere in town without being stopped by a great big lorry blocking the road.  :veryangry: :veryangry:

When you complain they say 'we have to do our job' - perhaps they could learn to 'do their job' without inconveniencing everyone else who are trying to 'do their own job'...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on July 12, 2016, 04:54:35 PM
Funny you should mention medical problems.

Most of you will have missed it but last night there was a DNS error on the site, about 2am, when any attempt to access this site was redirected to a stair lift fitting company.

With all the medical stuff here the hackers probably thought we are fertile business, all decrepit and prepared to buy anything that runs on a track.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on July 12, 2016, 05:25:20 PM
May be they should take a stand at Warley under the slogan  "Your last railway - a stair lift"
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ditape on July 12, 2016, 05:31:56 PM
You don't want any thing to do with the Stanna bunch, we recently got their security contract and they treat the gaurds and patrol officers like a bit of dog :poop: on the bottom of their shoes.


[mod]Please do not post foul language on a family forum, thinly disguised with punctuation or not.[/mod]
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 12, 2016, 06:09:42 PM
Hah! I live in a bungalow so  :nerner: to Stannah.
Just as well considering the pain I'm in :ouch:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on July 13, 2016, 09:44:58 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 12, 2016, 06:09:42 PM
Hah! I live in a bungalow:
:( Aw  :'(  your missing out on one of lifes great pleasures in life then as is anyone who hasn't got a stair lift
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on July 13, 2016, 10:40:35 AM
Quote from: Snowwolflair on July 12, 2016, 04:54:35 PM
Funny you should mention medical problems.

Most of you will have missed it but last night there was a DNS error on the site, about 2am, when any attempt to access this site was redirected to a stair lift fitting company.

With all the medical stuff here the hackers probably thought we are fertile business, all decrepit and prepared to buy anything that runs on a track.

No problems with the website as far as I'm aware.  No unusual activity at all. :-\  Are you sure it's not your browser?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on July 13, 2016, 10:50:24 AM
It's an intermittent DNS error not on the site but on the addressing system on the web.

Someone's made a wrong entry when updating their site mixing it with ours,but it seems to be correcting itself with time
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on July 13, 2016, 12:30:22 PM
Quote from: jonclox on July 13, 2016, 09:44:58 AM

:( Aw  :'(  your missing out on one of lifes great pleasures in life then as is anyone who hasn't got a stair lift


Well I am happy to live in a flat as I have watched Gremlins and they can do terrible things to stair lifts.

Cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on July 13, 2016, 03:27:39 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 13, 2016, 10:40:35 AM
Quote from: Snowwolflair on July 12, 2016, 04:54:35 PM
Funny you should mention medical problems.

Most of you will have missed it but last night there was a DNS error on the site, about 2am, when any attempt to access this site was redirected to a stair lift fitting company.

With all the medical stuff here the hackers probably thought we are fertile business, all decrepit and prepared to buy anything that runs on a track.

No problems with the website as far as I'm aware.  No unusual activity at all. :-\  Are you sure it's not your browser?

One wonders if the issue was limited to a particular ISP's DNS server, proxy or something. I can't say I'm glued to this site 24/7, but 2am is morning where I am and I'm sure I would have noticed something.

Meanwhile my 18 month old son is angry at the floor which viciously and brutally attacked his head without warning while he was jumping on the sofa.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on July 13, 2016, 03:42:12 PM
Some floors can be very unforgiving  :headbang: :headbutt: :ouch: - hope it wasn't too vicious.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on July 13, 2016, 03:54:54 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on July 13, 2016, 03:42:12 PM
Some floors can be very unforgiving  :headbang: :headbutt: :ouch: - hope it wasn't too vicious.
From a neutral point of view the floor probably had the worse deal, otherwise it would be layered in protective material, but we have been unable to convince said 18 month old son of the gravity-assisted downside of sofa-related gymnastics, so the floor must suffer in the hope of instilling lessons learnt.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: keerout on July 13, 2016, 04:05:14 PM
Very Zen...  8)
Gerard  :wave:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 15, 2016, 09:58:11 AM
Quote from: jonclox on July 12, 2016, 02:40:56 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 07, 2016, 01:05:58 PM
I'm sure you've told the doc but I'm sorry to hear things aren't back to the way you want them yet, Jon.

In the meantime I severely ricked my back doing a spot of gardening and window washing yesterday, to the extent I can hardly move without pain spasms. It's difficult to sit down as I can hardly get up, and I had to use the help of a crutch this morning to get out of bed. Just hope it eases itself out over the next couple of days :uneasy:
OUCH . hope by now the backs sorted you itself out and your on the mend.
Back pain is about the worst you can suffer with.

2 phone calls to my GP and 2 call outs later for the NHS24 doctor I am now on a heady mixture of Tramadol, Diazepam and 1000mg Paracetamol. Still no sign of any improvement.
Please send Red Cross parcels :help:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on July 15, 2016, 10:14:26 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 15, 2016, 09:58:11 AM

2 phone calls to my GP and 2 call outs later for the NHS24 doctor I am now on a heady mixture of Tramadol, Diazepam and 1000mg Paracetamol. Still no sign of any improvement.
Please send Red Cross parcels :help:

Bl00dy hell, and which planet shall we send them too, 'cos it sounds like you're not on this one  :goggleeyes: :goggleeyes:

Hope you feel better soon mate.

Cheers

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on July 15, 2016, 05:43:39 PM
Didn't take you for a cocktail man, but seriously, I hope you get well and off them soon.  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: richard9002 on July 15, 2016, 08:58:08 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 15, 2016, 09:58:11 AM
2 phone calls to my GP and 2 call outs later for the NHS24 doctor I am now on a heady mixture of Tramadol, Diazepam and 1000mg Paracetamol. Still no sign of any improvement.
Please send Red Cross parcels :help:

Dear me! Having previously worked in the offices of a GP's surgery (yep, I was one of those people... :uneasy:), and who has been on all 3 myself at different times, that's quite a combination prescribed there, was certainly rarely seen at the surgery I worked in anyway.

Hopefully as the levels build they'll kick in and you won't have to be in the clouds for too long!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on July 16, 2016, 06:18:39 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 15, 2016, 09:58:11 AM
Quote from: jonclox on July 12, 2016, 02:40:56 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 07, 2016, 01:05:58 PM
I'm sure you've told the doc but I'm sorry to hear things aren't back to the way you want them yet, Jon.

In the meantime I severely ricked my back doing a spot of gardening and window washing yesterday, to the extent I can hardly move without pain spasms. It's difficult to sit down as I can hardly get up, and I had to use the help of a crutch this morning to get out of bed. Just hope it eases itself out over the next couple of days :uneasy:
OUCH . hope by now the backs sorted you itself out and your on the mend.
Back pain is about the worst you can suffer with.

2 phone calls to my GP and 2 call outs later for the NHS24 doctor I am now on a heady mixture of Tramadol, Diazepam and 1000mg Paracetamol. Still no sign of any improvement.
Please send Red Cross parcels :help:
Would you like us to put anything in them?  :angel:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on July 16, 2016, 07:45:44 AM
Quote from: railsquid on July 16, 2016, 06:18:39 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 15, 2016, 09:58:11 AM
Quote from: jonclox on July 12, 2016, 02:40:56 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 07, 2016, 01:05:58 PM
I'm sure you've told the doc but I'm sorry to hear things aren't back to the way you want them yet, Jon.

In the meantime I severely ricked my back doing a spot of gardening and window washing yesterday, to the extent I can hardly move without pain spasms. It's difficult to sit down as I can hardly get up, and I had to use the help of a crutch this morning to get out of bed. Just hope it eases itself out over the next couple of days :uneasy:
OUCH . hope by now the backs sorted you itself out and your on the mend.
Back pain is about the worst you can suffer with.

2 phone calls to my GP and 2 call outs later for the NHS24 doctor I am now on a heady mixture of Tramadol, Diazepam and 1000mg Paracetamol. Still no sign of any improvement.
Please send Red Cross parcels :help:
Would you like us to put anything in them?  :angel:

He's asked for red crosses, Squiddy. I'll go shopping for some this morning.  :)

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 16, 2016, 09:48:47 AM
One big parcel containing Liz Hurley should do the trick :heart2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on July 16, 2016, 10:20:26 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 16, 2016, 09:48:47 AM
One big parcel containing Liz Hurley should do the trick :heart2:

What? With your back?  :P

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on July 16, 2016, 01:01:02 PM
And possibly not even before he did his back in.😃
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on July 17, 2016, 02:58:09 PM
Quote from: Malc on July 16, 2016, 01:01:02 PM
And possibly not even before he did his back in.😃
:laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on July 17, 2016, 03:10:07 PM
 :-X went out it the car on Friday for a spot of scenery gazing and fresh air  :-\
Got home after about an hour turned up at home and after a 10 minute struggle managed to get in and headed up stairs on the sky lift.
That was the end of me for 1 and a half hours or so :'( managed to get back into the bedroom (!5  feet) pumped every type of inhaler into me and slept for an hour or so.
Saturday still very iffy so tea time SWMBO suggested I started another course of steroids which after only 24 hour seem to be hitting the right spots. So onwards and upwards as they say  :-\ 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GeeBee on July 18, 2016, 01:07:52 AM
2 phone calls to my GP and 2 call outs later for the NHS24 doctor I am now on a heady mixture of Tramadol, Diazepam and 1000mg Paracetamol. Still no sign of any improvement.
Please send Red Cross parcels :help:
[/quote]

Sorry to hear this Mick you could add a wee Drambui to the mix and you probably wouldn't feel a thing
PM an address fir the red cross parcel
:dighole:  :idea:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 18, 2016, 01:14:40 PM
Well - I've now spoken to 5 doctors, 2 of whom have inspected my back. The latest 'diagnosis - back unseen' is a prolapsed disc so a prescription of morphine will be delivered this afternoon. The idea is to get the pain under control so I can walk about a bit and ease things out. Physio terrorism may be involved in the future and if the problem still hasn't gone away then it's the knife :worried:

Life's no fun being an old knacker :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: REGP on July 18, 2016, 01:38:17 PM
Mick
You have my sympathy as I know what your going thru, I "slipped" a disc when I was 20 and 55 years later its never gone back.

In those days after being in plaster for 3 months the only thing the doctors only recommend was sleeping on a hard surface i.e. the floor, without any concern how you got up and down.

Luckily I eventually found a Physio who could sort me out any time it played up.

Thankfully it hasn't troubled me for a few years as the Physio has now also retired.

Ray
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on July 18, 2016, 04:40:25 PM
1 hour before my appointment with the chest consultant, hospital phoned up and said that they have had to cancel.
Just got to wait for new appointment to come thro the post now. :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 18, 2016, 04:50:36 PM
Yep - that would make me angry for sure :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on July 18, 2016, 05:17:40 PM
Quote from: Oldman on July 18, 2016, 04:40:25 PM
1 hour before my appointment with the chest consultant, hospital phoned up and said that they have had to cancel.


A lot of companies will pay some compensation for not keeping appointments. I wonder what would happen if the NHS had to do the same - especially with only 1 hours notice.  ???. If that had been me, I would be half way to the hospital, (it is a 2 hour drive), so I would be  :censored: mad! I hope you do not have to wait too long for the new appointment.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GeeBee on July 18, 2016, 06:06:54 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 18, 2016, 01:14:40 PM
Well - I've now spoken to 5 doctors, 2 of whom have inspected my back. The latest 'diagnosis - back unseen' is a prolapsed disc so a prescription of morphine will be delivered this afternoon. The idea is to get the pain under control so I can walk about a bit and ease things out. Physio terrorism may be involved in the future and if the problem still hasn't gone away then it's the knife :worried:

Life's no fun being an old knacker :(

Sorry that you are struggling so much hope things improve quickly for you
PS Pam says where do you want the Red Cross parcel sent????

:-[  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on July 18, 2016, 06:26:44 PM
Mega grrrrrrr, just switched on the TV and discovered that the LNB on my satellite system has died.
Power feed to the LNB good and Rx working on a neighbour's dish.
DVD only for now.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: rhysapthomas on July 18, 2016, 09:45:37 PM
Strange but my Sat TV stopped working this afternoon and i thought the LNB had failed but a few tests about 7:30 and a complete power down of the receiver and its all ok
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on July 18, 2016, 10:18:54 PM
Quote from: rhysapthomas on July 18, 2016, 09:45:37 PM
Strange but my Sat TV stopped working this afternoon and i thought the LNB had failed but a few tests about 7:30 and a complete power down of the receiver and its all ok

Mine has been iffy for a while and is about 12 years old.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: marco neri on July 18, 2016, 10:28:36 PM
 >:(
It's by yesterday i'm searching to order a Dapol Manor Grange aobut their site Specials at 70£...(like many times in early past) ..but when I do arrive at "shipping method" the order system stops and says .."Warning shpiing method not available contact us".  ??? :confused1:...
I mailed 'em and they answered a nebolous letters explaining their website provider is checking carriage costs so this might have bern the problem...
So I'm very sad ...'til now have never been happened
Excuse me all for my "maccaroni" English, I hope you understand


Marco
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on July 19, 2016, 05:43:48 AM
Does this mean you haven't been able to place your order, Marco?

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: marco neri on July 19, 2016, 07:48:45 AM
Quote from: daveg on July 19, 2016, 05:43:48 AM
Does this mean you haven't been able to place your order, Marco?

Dave G

Exactly....GRRRR
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 19, 2016, 11:26:14 AM
Quote from: GeeBee on July 18, 2016, 06:06:54 PM

PS Pam says where do you want the Red Cross parcel sent????

:-[  :hmmm:

Things are so hazy, Graham, it could be Narnia or Planet Zog for all I know :laugh3:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on July 19, 2016, 11:34:32 AM
TINGS      :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on July 19, 2016, 11:35:51 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 19, 2016, 11:26:14 AM
Quote from: GeeBee on July 18, 2016, 06:06:54 PM

PS Pam says where do you want the Red Cross parcel sent????

:-[  :hmmm:

Things are so hazy, Graham, it could be Narnia or Planet Zog for all I know :laugh3:
Just leave the parcel in the back of the wardrobe then  :angel:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 19, 2016, 11:39:54 AM
Quote from: railsquid on July 19, 2016, 11:35:51 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 19, 2016, 11:26:14 AM
Quote from: GeeBee on July 18, 2016, 06:06:54 PM

PS Pam says where do you want the Red Cross parcel sent????

:-[  :hmmm:

Things are so hazy, Graham, it could be Narnia or Planet Zog for all I know :laugh3:
Just leave the parcel in the back of the wardrobe then  :angel:

No room, Squiddy. That's where Liz Hurley is :-X
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tom U on July 19, 2016, 12:12:30 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 19, 2016, 11:39:54 AM
Quote from: railsquid on July 19, 2016, 11:35:51 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 19, 2016, 11:26:14 AM
Quote from: GeeBee on July 18, 2016, 06:06:54 PM

PS Pam says where do you want the Red Cross parcel sent????

:-[  :hmmm:

Things are so hazy, Graham, it could be Narnia or Planet Zog for all I know :laugh3:
Just leave the parcel in the back of the wardrobe then  :angel:

No room, Squiddy. That's where Liz Hurley is :-X

Aha! A closet Hurley admirer...or is it just cupboard love???

Seriously, hope you get some improvement on your condition soon. 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on July 19, 2016, 01:00:41 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 19, 2016, 11:39:54 AM
Quote from: railsquid on July 19, 2016, 11:35:51 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 19, 2016, 11:26:14 AM
Quote from: GeeBee on July 18, 2016, 06:06:54 PM

PS Pam says where do you want the Red Cross parcel sent????

:-[  :hmmm:

Things are so hazy, Graham, it could be Narnia or Planet Zog for all I know :laugh3:
Just leave the parcel in the back of the wardrobe then  :angel:

No room, Squiddy. That's where Liz Hurley is :-X

Amazing what you can get 3D printed these days!!  :D

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on July 19, 2016, 04:20:47 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 19, 2016, 11:39:54 AM
Quote from: railsquid on July 19, 2016, 11:35:51 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 19, 2016, 11:26:14 AM
Quote from: GeeBee on July 18, 2016, 06:06:54 PM

PS Pam says where do you want the Red Cross parcel sent????

:-[  :hmmm:

Things are so hazy, Graham, it could be Narnia or Planet Zog for all I know :laugh3:
Just leave the parcel in the back of the wardrobe then  :angel:

No room, Squiddy. That's where Liz Hurley is :-X

No wonder you've got a bad back Liz Hurley at your age  tut5 tut :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: marco neri on July 19, 2016, 09:52:17 PM
Hi,
After a second mail....order placed :no:

Cheers.

Marco
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: REGP on July 19, 2016, 10:03:42 PM
Quote from: marco neri on July 19, 2016, 09:52:17 PM
Hi,
After a second mail....order placed :no:

Cheers.

Marco
That's good, did they tell you why there was a problem?
Ray
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: marco neri on July 19, 2016, 10:57:39 PM
Quote from: REGP on July 19, 2016, 10:03:42 PM
Quote from: marco neri on July 19, 2016, 09:52:17 PM
Hi,
After a second mail....order placed :no:

Cheers.

Marco

That's good, did they tell you why there was a problem?
Ray

They did say a web provider problem during  check of carriage costs to Europe/Italy....not specifying if it's a bug or other...

Marco
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on July 23, 2016, 06:31:15 AM
Just went out to the garage to get my toolbox to fix a rattling gate..... except no toolbox. Or jigsaw. Or two electric drills. Or screwdriver sets.

All nicked.  :censored: :veryangry: :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on July 23, 2016, 07:08:54 AM
Sorry to hear that, George. Most annoying, apart from anything else.

No doubt you'll be looking at security for that area and what about the layout?

Can you put a cheap but effective alarm system? There's sorts with starting prices of around £50 but have no experience of them. Here's a UK based one: https://www.ultrasecuredirect.com (https://www.ultrasecuredirect.com)

Dave G

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on July 23, 2016, 07:22:51 AM
Whole house is alarmed, Dave, but it wasn't turned on as we were home. It was obviously a rush job, I'd say they've ran in, grabbed the stuff and bolted. Copper reckoned there's been a spate of it in the area.  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on July 23, 2016, 07:27:02 AM
That makes it worse doesn't it? Hope your insurance doesn't get shirty about that - they do like to wriggle out of paying out if they can!

I had a car nicked overnight off the drive some years back. I was home in bed. It was my lovely Jag XJ Sovereign and I still miss it.  :'(  :'(

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on July 23, 2016, 08:42:18 AM
Ouch. That must have hurt.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 23, 2016, 10:47:48 AM
Sorry to hear you've been done over by some lowlives, George.
Hope they catch the sods and send 'em to , erm. oh no, that won't work, will it :confused1:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on July 23, 2016, 10:59:17 AM
 :laughabovepost:

I'm there already, unfortunately
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mr bachmann on July 23, 2016, 03:38:07 PM
any Poms [/I ]in the area? if not its one of your lot ,
I learnt the had way now keep every thing locked up .
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on July 23, 2016, 11:09:03 PM
I totally sympathise with you George. I had over £3000 nicked a couple of years back and hate thieves with a passion. I can't tell you what I would do to them as a moderator doesn't like it!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jillingsbri on August 04, 2016, 06:46:40 AM
Adverts  :veryangry: ie brainwashing. 

Television..It's just taking the wee-wee now with programs being torn to shreds with 'em..Pick up a mag or paper in Smith's and ad leaflets fall out..Find a pile of them on the door mat every morning (straight in the bin unopened)..Try to look at and story on the front page of Yahoo, and the computer invariably locks up or taking too long to load the add's so I give up..Every available hoarding space in town is covered with add's, and even more annoying, to me anyway, is whenever someone is interviewed on a sports pitch on tv, they have a bloody great screen behind them covered in more brainwashing >:(..The list goes on, right?.....Brian

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Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pengi on August 04, 2016, 07:06:34 AM
Quote from: Jillingsbri on August 04, 2016, 06:46:40 AM
Adverts  :veryangry: ie brainwashing. 

Television..It's just taking the wee-wee now with programs being torn to shreds with 'em..Pick up a mag or paper in Smith's and ad leaflets fall out..Find a pile of them on the door mat every morning (straight in the bin unopened)..Try to look at and story on the front page of Yahoo, and the computer invariably locks up or taking too long to load the add's so I give up..Every available hoarding space in town is covered with add's, and even more annoying, to me anyway, is whenever someone is interviewed on a sports pitch on tv, they have a bloody great screen behind them covered in more brainwashing >:(..The list goes on, right?.....Brian
Agree - particularly with web-sites and full screen pop-up adverts where the close button is hard to find. And even after closing they still come up. I know I could block them . . .
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Steve Brassett on August 04, 2016, 08:34:44 AM
If a website takes more than a few seconds to load, then I leave it and go elsewhere.  If they are going to annoy me they don't deserve my business.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on August 04, 2016, 09:25:53 AM
AdBlock Plus - all these ad-heavy sites are a breeze without the ads on them...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Webbo on August 04, 2016, 09:48:51 AM
I also hate ads on TV or on the web even though advertising is what pays for a lot of these services. What is particular galling is that our local pay TV (Foxtel) is also loaded with repetitive ads of similar poor quality to those on our commercial TV stations. To make things bearable I just record everything and watch it all later with a ready finger on the fast forward button (30x speed). A bit of a nuisance, but much preferable to sitting through great slabs of ads. I pay no attention to the ads anyway so you couldn't say that the advertisers are losing out.

On my computer, my Adblock Plus installation gets rid of most of the pop-up advertising so it gets a big tick from me too.

Webbo
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NeMo on August 04, 2016, 09:58:40 AM
Quote from: Jillingsbri on August 04, 2016, 06:46:40 AM
Pick up a mag or paper in Smith's and ad leaflets fall out..
Unfortunately for the publishing trade, making magazines and newspapers financially viable without advertising is impossible. People simply won't pay the full cost of the magazine. Your railway modelling magazine costing £4-5 seems expensive, but it almost certainly would cost more than that without all those advertisements. Most hobby magazines have content (articles) provided by freelancers paid a few hundred pounds for 2500 words (I know this because I used to be one) -- but the people calling up potential advertisers and maintaining existing advertisements will be on full-time salaries!

Quote from: Webbo on August 04, 2016, 09:48:51 AM
On my computer, my Adblock Plus installation gets rid of most of the pop-up advertising so it gets a big tick from me too.
Anyone using an ad-blocker is pretty much no, actually, stealing content. Bandwidth costs money, and content on decent websites will be written by freelancers or full-time writers who need to be paid. I'm sorry if this causes offence, but as someone who worked (and to a degree still does) in online publishing I see the use of ad-blockers as, to my mind, much the same as people who leave dog mess in park -- dealing with an annoyance by making it someone else's problem rather than theirs.

For sure some advertising methods are more obnoxious than others. Scientific American at the moment has a system that makes the otherwise wonderful Tetrapod Zoology blog a right pain to read! So I'm not without sympathy. But ad-blockers are simply pushing advertisers to use ever more insidious methods of advertising, and in some cases, extorting money from websites by offering to put them onto a paid-for "white list" that isn't blocked.

Cheers, NeMo
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on August 04, 2016, 10:01:41 AM
Don't have a TV, Adblock plus sorts the web, I live in a retirement block and hardly see any junk mail except the occasional addressed to "The Occupier", and none of the door to door leaflets either. Only go out about once a week, tend to watch the road rather than gawp at hoardings when driving.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on August 04, 2016, 10:40:27 AM
I have no problem with adverts in magazines; if I buy a mag. it's because I'm interested in the content and the ads are usually relevent and I can read or ignore as I choose. On the other hand computer pop-ups are seldom of any interest but get in the way of what I am wanting to do so ad blockers have a use and if they become more widely used will force the advertisers to use a method which makes an advert relevent and makes it possible for computer users to read or ignore without it getting in the way.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 04, 2016, 10:42:27 AM
If I have the choice of 2 programmes on at, say, 9pm so have to record one of them it will always be the commercial programme which gets recorded so I can just run through the ads with the remote. I tend to accept advertising as a necessary evil but hate the ones that know they are annoying - Go Compare (fantastic) springs to mind - whereas the Leccky and Gaz ones had me chuckling at first viewing.
The only good thing about adverts in TV programmes is the time it gives you to make tea, pay a visit to the smallest room etc
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on August 04, 2016, 10:48:45 AM
If I had a choice of two programmes at 9pm it would mean I'd be very tired tomorra.

Way past me bedtime.  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Webbo on August 04, 2016, 11:05:13 AM
Quote from: NeMo on August 04, 2016, 09:58:40 AM

Quote from: Webbo on August 04, 2016, 09:48:51 AM
On my computer, my Adblock Plus installation gets rid of most of the pop-up advertising so it gets a big tick from me too.
Anyone using an ad-blocker is pretty much no, actually, stealing content. Bandwidth costs money, and content on decent websites will be written by freelancers or full-time writers who need to be paid. I'm sorry if this causes offence, but as someone who worked (and to a degree still does) in online publishing I see the use of ad-blockers as, to my mind, much the same as people who leave dog mess in park -- dealing with an annoyance by making it someone else's problem rather than theirs.

For sure some advertising methods are more obnoxious than others. Scientific American at the moment has a system that makes the otherwise wonderful Tetrapod Zoology blog a right pain to read! So I'm not without sympathy. But ad-blockers are simply pushing advertisers to use ever more insidious methods of advertising, and in some cases, extorting money from websites by offering to put them onto a paid-for "white list" that isn't blocked.

Cheers, NeMo

You've got a pretty very strange definition of stealing NeMo. Someone uses MY download byte allocation that I pay for to throw obnoxious irritations up on my computer screen and you tell me I'm stealing if I choose to ignore them. Wow! Google and other purveyors of web advertising are making plenty of money out of all of us don't worry about that.

As for skipping over ads on TV, all of us indirectly pay for TV advertising (including me) through a cost built into all the products I buy whether I pay attention to the advertising or not.

Webbo
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on August 04, 2016, 11:21:21 AM
Pretty much agree with you, Webbo. I did a calculation on one of my regular sites before I installed ABP and the adverts comprised 73% of the total content downloaded. That, IMO, is extracting the urine.

I have noticed one or two sites I have encountered recently have put up a pop up saying that they've detected ABP and it should be disabled to access their site. There it was a case of move along, there are other sites...

With regard to the dog mess analogy, I regard over-advertising on websites as someone's dog trying to mess on my front lawn and me putting up a fence to deter them.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NeMo on August 04, 2016, 09:11:03 PM
Quote from: talisman56 on August 04, 2016, 11:21:21 AM
With regard to the dog mess analogy, I regard over-advertising on websites as someone's dog trying to mess on my front lawn and me putting up a fence to deter them.

Except that's not how it works. Let's say you visit the N Gauge Forum. The forum has to pay for its access to the Internet, and the more "hits" (visitors) per unit of time, the more it has to pay to remain connected. That's because it's using up more of the resources its host supplies, i.e., the computer that serves up the forum pages to each visitor. So the forum has costs, which adverts and donations from the membership help to pay for.

If you install an ad blocker, fewer adverts are "served" up to site visitors. That means less revenue to the website in question. This is a very big deal for anyone running a free to visit website. Rather than "your front lawn" think of the website as a library or museum you choose to visit. The service might be free to you, but there are costs, and someone has to pay for them. Usually, it's advertisers.

I know this isn't a popular opinion, and people with ad blockers have no problem justifying using them. Certainly advertising can be aggressive and disruptive. But when all is said and done, they are, fundamentally, taking something from the website (information and entertainment) without allowing the website creator to cover their costs (via advertising).

Perhaps making an analogy with theft might be overdoing it (though website creators routinely view it that way). It might be better to think of someone who visits a museum in a foreign country (so they aren't supporting it through taxation) but refuses to make a donation (so they aren't supporting it that way either).

Cheers, NeMo
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Yet_Another on August 04, 2016, 09:57:46 PM
Except that's not how it works.

The internet is essentially a great big free for all, with some bits cordoned off that you have to pay for. People copy pictures, take screenshots, cut & paste text left right and centre. It's free.

If someone doesn't want to give their stuff away, there are ways and means of protecting it, making people pay or whatever. Another website I visit has it in their TOS that you have to accept the adverts, which is fair enough.

But just because someone (not necessarily the website owner) wants to shove a load of dross into my browser willy nilly doesn't mean that I have to accept it, and I either don't pay, don't go to those websites, or block them.

Good thing this is in the angry thread.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NeMo on August 04, 2016, 10:14:18 PM
Quote from: Yet_Another on August 04, 2016, 09:57:46 PM
Except that's not how it works.
The internet is essentially a great big free for all, with some bits cordoned off that you have to pay for. People copy pictures, take screenshots, cut & paste text left right and centre. It's free.
Are you being serious? Who pays for the electricity running the servers that host your favourite websites? Who pays for the physical connections between computers? And so on. The Internet is not free. Often the stuff that seems free (for example Facebook and free email services) is free to you because they're selling aggregated or personalised data to advertisers and market researchers. But most sites operate on advertising. The more hits, the more advertisers will pay to advertise on that site. It's a lot more sophisticated now because advertisers discriminate between unique visitors, and track where visitors go afterwards, and so on. But the basic principle is as described above. More hits, more revenue from advertisers, more money to pay the bills.

Quote from: Yet_Another on August 04, 2016, 09:57:46 PM
If someone doesn't want to give their stuff away, there are ways and means of protecting it, making people pay or whatever. Another website I visit has it in their TOS that you have to accept the adverts, which is fair enough.
Your conflating two issues. You are quite right that it's very difficult to maintain intellectual property on the Internet. This is a whole other theft issue. We're talking about bandwidth; the cost of serving up web pages to visitors to your site.

Quote from: Yet_Another on August 04, 2016, 09:57:46 PM
But just because someone (not necessarily the website owner) wants to shove a load of dross into my browser willy nilly doesn't mean that I have to accept it, and I either don't pay, don't go to those websites, or block them.
The website owner will have okayed the adverts served by their website unless their website has been hijacked. So yes, they do have the right to send adverts along with their content to your computer. You have the right to not visit that website. But accepting the website content while blocking the advertising (and therefore the revenue that website should be generating) is pretty much shoplifting -- taking stuff without paying for it.

Of course nobody likes obtrusive advertising, and most decent websites don't tend to use that type of advertising precisely because of the ill-will it generates. People won't deliberately go back to websites that have rampant, obnoxious advertising. That's why it's generally acknowledged that the seedier the website, the more aggressive and annoying the advertising -- because those sorts of websites don't depend on repeat business in quite the same way. Hence advertising on, say, the Daily Mail website will be very different to a website hosting bootlegged software.

Quote from: Yet_Another on August 04, 2016, 09:57:46 PM
Good thing this is in the angry thread.
Indeed. And if you were someone employed in web publishing at all ad blockers would be something that make you very angry indeed!

I totally get why some people have them. Everyone likes to get something for nothing, me included! But ethically they're very difficult to justify.

Cheers, NeMo
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on August 04, 2016, 11:23:37 PM
I don't use as blockers *yet* because I know a lot of web authors who rely on advertising in their sites for income. However I do block all Flash content (buggy, bloated, security risk, crash prone) on my desktop and reserve the right to ad block specific advertising companies if they're primarily pushing scams and clickbait.

Remember it's not just the websites that are paying for bandwidth. The users are too. So if your ads are big and bloaty and making your user experience poor you've only got yourself to blame if they block them. It's a similar balance to TV advertising where they have to restrict it to a certain number of minutes and breaks per hour or viewers would just turn off.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Webbo on August 05, 2016, 12:29:24 AM
I'm fully aware that the web is not free and I'm quite prepared to pay for my usage directly or indirectly (currently donate to Wikepedia). My installation of Adblock was in response to the sorts of pop-up ads that bring my computer to a halt before a key is pressed or block my content. Started happening all too frequently. Adblock seems to take out these offenders, but the banner ads are still there pretty much intact. I do a search on Google and as often as not many of the hits are advertising sites. No problem there and some of these sites are actually useful.

NeMo raises that point that there is a lot of insidious stuff going on on the web such as so called 'free' services that sell your personal information as their way of raising money. To me this is truly obnoxious behaviour and not very well known I expect. A while ago when I realised that the 'free' anti-virus software AVG was passing on my details, I promptly switched to a bought anti-virus program. Probably, AVG and others tell us what they are doing in the fine print, but it is certainly not up front.

Webbo
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GeeBee on August 05, 2016, 12:38:37 PM
Hi, folks I have not been able to login to the site for a week why you ask because I am back in the hospital again I managed to last a whole 10 days before the gallbladder created absolute mayhem again and this after the doctor said don't worry we will sort you out in 6 weeks when every thing has settled down HAH 6 days of you can only have sips of water no food and all the tests they ran 3 weeks ago repeated until yesterday when the "Specialist" said you now have a slight jaundice so we will put you on soup and jelly thankfully not in the same bowl 8 hrs later my control board is displaying nil by mouth now back on soup and jelly wonderful
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 05, 2016, 01:18:06 PM
Oh heck, Graham. Sorry to hear you're back in the wars and hope at least the flavours of the soup and the jelly meet with your approval.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Steve Brassett on August 05, 2016, 01:22:47 PM
I have no problems with adverts - as has been said, the site provider needs to make some money.  The issue I have is that the advertisers make the ads more and more complicated to attract your attention.  This means that the site takes longer to load, I give up, and the ad doesn't get seen anyway.  Counter-productive.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GeeBee on August 06, 2016, 09:30:08 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 05, 2016, 01:18:06 PM
Oh heck, Graham. Sorry to hear you're back in the wars and hope at least the flavours of the soup and the jelly meet with your approval.

Hi, Mick to date the soup has consisted of either tomato or chicken I can live with those they have just removed an 11mm gallstone from where it was blocking my pancreas so feeling a bit more human than of late, enough about me how's your back any relief yet ?? I have knicked Pam's iPad she's only had it a couple of weeks so that I can at least keep my brain from turning to mush
Graham
:thankyousign:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 06, 2016, 10:13:29 AM
Despite me pleading for an MRI scan to see if there is any soft tissue (like a disc) out of place I had to go to hospital yesterday for X rays (which can't see soft tissue). My GP will have the results in a couple of weeks (they're very slow readers in Chorley ::))
Still, I had fun being pushed around in a wheelchair by my sister whilst I said loudly 'Don't like it!!'
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on August 06, 2016, 10:19:58 AM
I sometimes wonder how you keep your sense of humour, Mick.

I had same thing here in Aus a few weeks ago... x-ray for muscular injury.  :doh:

My brain hurts.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on August 06, 2016, 10:22:23 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 06, 2016, 10:13:29 AM
Despite me pleading for an MRI scan to see if there is any soft tissue (like a disc) out of place I had to go to hospital yesterday for X rays (which can't see soft tissue). My GP will have the results in a couple of weeks (they're very slow readers in Chorley ::))
Still, I had fun being pushed around in a wheelchair by my sister whilst I said loudly 'Don't like it!!'

Hope she said "I aint bovvered!" :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on August 06, 2016, 09:22:23 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 06, 2016, 10:13:29 AM
Despite me pleading for an MRI scan to see if there is any soft tissue (like a disc) out of place I had to go to hospital yesterday for X rays (which can't see soft tissue). My GP will have the results in a couple of weeks (they're very slow readers in Chorley ::))
Still, I had fun being pushed around in a wheelchair by my sister whilst I said loudly 'Don't like it!!'

Did you get rolled past the MRI dept and say "Want that one"....

Coat please!

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on August 07, 2016, 08:20:15 PM
So sports fans win again... Why???

Not enough to screw main TV channels up for the Olympics - ITV Midsomer murders has been delayed because of a football match.

Why oh Why do sports fans get preference over the rest of the viewers.
There are several BBC and ITV channels with RUBBISH being televised and the TV powers that be could easily scrap the  cr :censored: and show sports on these extra channels without screwing up everyone elses viewing.

Every time there's sports on (Wimbledon, Euro 2016, Olympics, Tiddlywinks you name it!!) the rest of the viewing public have to suffer. Nuffs enuff folks.
:veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on August 07, 2016, 08:46:56 PM
Quote from: Crooked Spire on August 07, 2016, 08:31:42 PM
Quote from: austinbob on August 07, 2016, 08:20:15 PM
So sports fans win again... Why???

Not enough to screw main TV channels up for the Olympics - ITV Midsomer murders has been delayed because of a football match.

Why oh Why do sports fans get preference over the rest of the viewers.
There are several BBC and ITV channels with RUBBISH being televised and the TV powers that be could easily scrap the  cr :censored: and show sports on these extra channels without screwing up everyone elses viewing.

Every time there's sports on (Wimbledon, Euro 2016, Olympics, Tiddlywinks you name it!!) the rest of the viewing public have to suffer. Nuffs enuff folks.
:veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

But it was only a repeat.
It was the only thing left that was worth watching - everything else was SSSpppoooorrrrrtttt!!!! AHhhhh!!!!
:thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on August 07, 2016, 08:56:17 PM
What annoys me about the BBC is that when a major event is being shown, it goes on BBC1 - BBC1 programmes are moved to BBC2 and BBC2 programmes are 'shelved'. Why not leave BBC1 alone and just show the event on BBC2. I would think that everyone who can get BBC1 can get BBC2  ???. And another thing, just before I left home to come to work, the Olympics was on, (don't ask - but SWMBO likes some of it ::)), and the presenter, (I forget her name), was almost apologetic saying that viewers would have to go to BBC2 because the news was coming on! Okay, that's my rant - still, there is only another 12 (?) days of it  :'(.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 07, 2016, 10:19:18 PM
I was wondering who'd be the first to have a grizzle about a sporting event that happens only every 4 years. Don't get me wrong - my sports tastes are extremely limited so don't even get me started on golf :no: But the Olympics has been going for many, many years and is always presented with plenty of notice so go and buy/borrow some boxed sets/record as much stuff as you want/need to not watch sport.
I found it such a tragedy I had to watch the ladies beach volleyball earlier on today :heart2:

Let's face it, so much current telly is repeats that if you watch the Olympics at least you haven't seen it before (unless you're absently mindedly watching the morning repeats of the previous days action)

Just as a suggestion I think the BBC ought to place more sport on the red button.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 07, 2016, 10:24:04 PM
When I worked for the organisation, I was paid to watch BBC 1 & 2 (no 3 or 4 in those days). Now at least I get a choice. Missed the beach volley ball though.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on August 07, 2016, 10:32:27 PM
Not really bothered about sport on the telly, but others are so that's fair enough (I miss free-view F1 seasons).

But

What will irk me is if it turns out that safety was compromised in events like the cycling were two competitors have now been badly hurt (men's yesterday, women's today). Yes sport can be dangerous but surely every precaution that can be taken should be, and if that was not the case (I have no facts so await any investigation) then it's not good enough.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mito on August 07, 2016, 10:59:08 PM
The Dutch rider who fell today is OK. But for both races the lack of police control was obvious and the course was not to Olympic standards. The bends in the down hill section where all the accidents occurred were poorly protected and dangerous.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Webbo on August 08, 2016, 06:04:33 AM
I have only a limited interest in sport mainly rugby union and ice hockey, but I think that the Olympics is quite OK. You get to see the best in the world at tiddlywinks, and women's beach volleyball and all kinds of other sports you don't normally get to see. The whole thing is quite entrancing though I'm happy the whole circus only comes round once every 4 years. We're only a day or so in and the Olympics have already wrecked my daily schedule.

Webbo
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on August 08, 2016, 06:28:33 AM
Yeah but it's worth having your schedule spoiled when the Aussies break the world record in the women's swimming relay!   :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on August 08, 2016, 07:21:15 AM
However, while on things Olympic, I get annoyed when sports like tennis are introduced and then see Serena Williams who must be worth millions, whacking our little Aussie girl.  >:(

Professionals like her should not be allowed in the Olympic games. But I guess it's the same with football.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NinOz on August 08, 2016, 08:21:34 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 07, 2016, 10:19:18 PM

I found it such a tragedy I had to watch the ladies beach volleyball earlier on today :heart2:
So you passed the heart stress test ok?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on August 08, 2016, 10:04:49 AM
Quote from: Bealman on August 08, 2016, 07:21:15 AM
However, while on things Olympic, I get annoyed when sports like tennis are introduced and then see Serena Williams who must be worth millions, whacking our little Aussie girl.  >:(

Professionals like her should not be allowed in the Olympic games. But I guess it's the same with football.

The Olympics (TM) is far from an amateur organisation though. They're suing any businesses that tweet about the games (even when congratulating their teams) as they're all trademarked and can only be used by the official sponsors. Those sponsors btw, don't pay *any* tax in the country that hosts the games for the year. That being part of the deal for hosting the Olympics (TM).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on August 08, 2016, 10:11:34 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 07, 2016, 10:19:18 PM
I was wondering who'd be the first to have a grizzle about a sporting event that happens only every 4 years. Don't get me wrong - my sports tastes are extremely limited so don't even get me started on golf :no: But the Olympics has been going for many, many years and is always presented with plenty of notice so go and buy/borrow some boxed sets/record as much stuff as you want/need to not watch sport.
I found it such a tragedy I had to watch the ladies beach volleyball earlier on today :heart2:

Let's face it, so much current telly is repeats that if you watch the Olympics at least you haven't seen it before (unless you're absently mindedly watching the morning repeats of the previous days action)

Just as a suggestion I think the BBC ought to place more sport on the red button.
The problem NN is that its not just the Olympics. Every major sports event seems to take priority over everything else. Those less interested in sports are continually having their normal viewing schedules cancelled or moved and non-sports lovers appear to be second class citizens when it comes to telly schedules.
There are plenty of BBC and ITV channels. Surely its not beyond the mental capacity of these organisations to schedule sports without affecting the normal schedules of the main channels.
:beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on August 08, 2016, 10:17:16 AM
Zwilnik:

Yeah, I sort of know all that, basically there is no such thing as an amateur at the pinnacle of sport.... even athletics.

However it really annoyed me to see that Serena Williams there.

I wouldn't participate out of modesty.

Obviously she does not think like that.... more like, "Hey, I'm a multimillionaire  but I'm doing the world and the USA a favour here.... I'm performing for FREE!"  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 08, 2016, 10:54:48 AM
I feel sick to my heart about the course used for the road cycling event as, although it was 'savage' to use Chris Froome's words, it was a good course but the safety aspects had not been addressed properly by the organisers and the UCI, resulting in severe injuries to contenders.

Quote from: Bealman on August 08, 2016, 07:21:15 AM
However, while on things Olympic, I get annoyed when sports like tennis are introduced and then see Serena Williams who must be worth millions, whacking our little Aussie girl.  >:(

Professionals like her should not be allowed in the Olympic games. But I guess it's the same with football.

There are professionals in many of the events and I don't think tennis should be singled out. Amateurs will be drawn against the likes of Andy Murray and pro golfers, cyclists etc so no longer is the Olympic movement purely for the true amateur :no:

Quote from: NinOz on August 08, 2016, 08:21:34 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 07, 2016, 10:19:18 PM

I found it such a tragedy I had to watch the ladies beach volleyball earlier on today :heart2:
So you passed the heart stress test ok?

The docs had told me to watch it to see if I suffered any adverse effects but I was just fine apart from it taking 24 hours for the smile to fade from my face :)

Quote from: austinbob on August 08, 2016, 10:11:34 AM

The problem NN is that its not just the Olympics. Every major sports event seems to take priority over everything else.

I guess it's tough if you don't like sport of any kind. Although I grumble about Wimbledon, The Open or snooker taking up so much of the schedules I confess to watching the World Cup footie (again only every 4 years) and will watch any cricket/motor sport/cycling on the telly (thanks heavens for ITV4) so I suppose it depends on what sport, if any, you like.

Quote from: austinbob on August 08, 2016, 10:11:34 AM

There are plenty of BBC and ITV channels. Surely its not beyond the mental capacity of these organisations to schedule sports without affecting the normal schedules of the main channels.
:beers:

I tend to agree with you there, Bob, especially when you get both BBC and ITV1 screening the same Euro 2016 footie final, the only difference being the 'pundits/experts'. That one really gets me mad :censored:
Having said that, have the soaps been affected? The main time I tend to notice schedule changes is when I am looking forward to progs about antiques or quiz shows.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on August 08, 2016, 11:27:41 AM
Quote from: Mito on August 07, 2016, 10:59:08 PM
The Dutch rider who fell today is OK. But for both races the lack of police control was obvious and the course was not to Olympic standards. The bends in the down hill section where all the accidents occurred were poorly protected and dangerous.

I wouldn't call three fractured bones in the lower back 'OK'...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on August 08, 2016, 11:34:31 AM
Quote from: talisman56 on August 08, 2016, 11:27:41 AM
Quote from: Mito on August 07, 2016, 10:59:08 PM
The Dutch rider who fell today is OK.

I wouldn't call three fractured bones in the lower back 'OK'...

In comparison to the potential alternative, I think with 3 fractured bones she got off relatively lightly. I saw the footage and my immediate thoughts were that she'd broken her back, the way she hit the edge of that storm drain at that speed  :worried: :worried:

Regards

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on August 08, 2016, 11:37:17 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 08, 2016, 10:54:48 AM
I tend to agree with you there, Bob, especially when you get both BBC and ITV1 screening the same Euro 2016 footie final, the only difference being the 'pundits/experts'. That one really gets me mad :censored:
Having said that, have the soaps been affected? The main time I tend to notice schedule changes is when I am looking forward to progs about antiques or quiz shows.
The soaps are usually affected, not that I watch them of course!! (at least not more than once a day). Not sure about the quizzes and antique shows, although I have noticed bargain hunt shifts around a bit.
:beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on August 08, 2016, 11:47:50 AM

It's not just TV, it's the same on the Radio, Take Radio 5, and Radio Five SPORTS Extra.

Now I am a Sports fan, I watch/listen to Cricket, Football, Motor Sport, I cannot stand Tennis and am only mildly interested in The Olympics & Golf, but why oh why do we have to have Live Wimbledon, Golf, Olympics on Radio 5 Live when they have a dedicated channel for sport, the clue is in the name Radio 5 SPORTS extra where the Cricket is, now I know it's only on DAB but surely most people these days have Digital radio in their homes. Just about everyone has Digital TV which includes the Radio Channels!!!

:veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

Rant Mode Off

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on August 08, 2016, 11:56:20 AM
You get the impression that I don't like Serena Williams, then, Mick?  :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 08, 2016, 12:03:16 PM
Road cycling is dangerous, especially on the most spectacular types of course, and also especially when making descents in the rain. However, I feel the design of the outer edges of the roads used were just not suitable.
Richie Porte - double fracture of shoulder blade
Vincenzo Nibali - broken collar bone
Sergio Henao - pelvis fracture
Annemiek Van Vleuten - 3 fractured vertebrae
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Webbo on August 08, 2016, 12:16:31 PM
Remember when we in the west used to get our knickers in knots over the east Europeans using the army as employment for their athletes? Now the Olympics is a professional free for all. If tennis is in, then so should George's friend and idol Serena be accepted with grace. Personally, I find that that the continuous repetition of the same all hacks in the international tennis circuits as boring as canine faeces - the main reason I won't be watching Olympic tennis.

Webbo
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on August 08, 2016, 01:30:16 PM
I think the Olympic Committee know what they are doing.

They are counting on a lousy medal haul for the Russians.

I am also convinced they are going to test the hell out of the team.

The team attending are either no dopers or dopers who are under such scrutiny they have had to stop doping over a year ago!

Already Russia is falling behind on the medal table, lets see what happens.



NB there is a joke in Russia at the moment about how stringent the new doping test regime at the Olympics are.

"Russian 100m athletes are going to be tested every 10m during the race".

Just as well they aren't coming thats a lot of  :censored: to produce.  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 08, 2016, 03:31:06 PM
Quote from: Webbo on August 08, 2016, 12:16:31 PM
Remember when we in the west used to get our knickers in knots over the east Europeans using the army as employment for their athletes?

Aye. I'd have hated to see the Russian beach volleyball team in those days :sick2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on August 08, 2016, 07:24:48 PM
Off the Olympics topic....
Thought I'd go down to Didcot this afternoon to take a few piccies of static locos etc. Got to Junction 11 of M4 ready to drive down to A34 for Didcot and... guess what.. After negotiating that disaster of a roundabout at Junction 11 around 3:00pm, drove down the sliproad to M4 only to come to a complete standstill - traffic stationary on the M4 as far as you could see.
Checked on mobile for M4 traffic (ok I know we're not supposed to use mobiles when driving but I wasn't moving anyway.) Traffic news said crash between junction 12 and 13 and M4 was closed after Junction 12. Took me an hour and a half to get to Junction 12 so I could turn round and go back home (in the rush hour of course).
Now why O why couldn't they put a notice on junction 11 roundabout telling people the M4 is closed so they don't all drive down the sliproad like lemmings into a guaranteed 1 1/2 hour wait - not to mention the chaos when they actually get off the motorway.
I sometimes despair at the total incompetence of some of the people who are supposed to be managing the infrastructure of this country and the lack of information us poor motorists are given. Especially when we are told to avoid the area on the radio - after the event of course.

Rant over.
:veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on August 08, 2016, 07:29:43 PM
Quote from: austinbob on August 08, 2016, 07:24:48 PM
Checked on mobile for M4 traffic (ok I know we're not supposed to use mobiles when driving but I wasn't moving anyway.)

So the fact that major accidents are all too frequent on the M4 between junctions 8 and 14 you didn't think to check the traffic BEFORE setting off? ;)

I know I would !! :D


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on August 08, 2016, 08:10:46 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on August 08, 2016, 07:29:43 PM
Quote from: austinbob on August 08, 2016, 07:24:48 PM
Checked on mobile for M4 traffic (ok I know we're not supposed to use mobiles when driving but I wasn't moving anyway.)

So the fact that major accidents are all too frequent on the M4 between junctions 8 and 14 you didn't think to check the traffic BEFORE setting off? ;)

I know I would !! :D


Paul
You're probably right Paul, I could have checked but there were dozens, hundreds of people hurtling down that slip road. A sign on J11 roundabout would have solved the problem. Instead we had a sign half way between J11 and J12 saying M4 closed at J12. Very helpful don't you think? :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on August 08, 2016, 08:53:15 PM
Quote from: austinbob on August 08, 2016, 08:10:46 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on August 08, 2016, 07:29:43 PM
Quote from: austinbob on August 08, 2016, 07:24:48 PM
Checked on mobile for M4 traffic (ok I know we're not supposed to use mobiles when driving but I wasn't moving anyway.)

So the fact that major accidents are all too frequent on the M4 between junctions 8 and 14 you didn't think to check the traffic BEFORE setting off? ;)

I know I would !! :D


Paul
You're probably right Paul, I could have checked but there were dozens, hundreds of people hurtling down that slip road. A sign on J11 roundabout would have solved the problem. Instead we had a sign half way between J11 and J12 saying M4 closed at J12. Very helpful don't you think? :beers:

That would involve that increasingly rare commodity "common sense" though Bob :no:


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on August 08, 2016, 09:48:27 PM
Sympathies for all those stuck, for whatever reason, on motorways. Learning that a junction or stretch is closed once you're on is so very annoying.

These days I try and check the Traffic England website  http://www.trafficengland.com/ (http://www.trafficengland.com/) before setting off on an M-way trip. OK things can happen the instant you log off but ....

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 08, 2016, 10:08:14 PM
If I use the satnav built into my Ford Siesta it informs me of traffic problems as soon as I hit 'start' running the program. If I am part way through a journey and an accident occurs it informs me there is a traffic hold up ahead but this info usually comes just as you enter the roadworks or join the back of the queue :veryangry: If I don't use the satnav I'm taking pot luck on traffic and, like Bob, would have been incensed by the lack of thought given to the public by the Highways department concerned.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on August 08, 2016, 10:53:55 PM
I find the digital signs rather annoying, When driving up the M11 from London to Cambridge I fail to see the relevence of hold-ups near Bristol, but my pet hate are the ones that say junction no xx is 15 mins away. It tells me nothing without saying how far the junc. is. If its 14 miles away it means no hold-ups traffic moving freely but if its only 5 miles away there's trouble ahead!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 09, 2016, 09:33:13 AM
The matrix signs are mostly a joke. How many times have you seen them lit up with 'FOG!' or 'SURFACE SPRAY!' when there's no sign of either within a 40 mile radius.
The example Steve cites is only of use if you have good knowledge of the motorway you're travelling on.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on August 09, 2016, 11:56:02 AM
The matrix signs annoy me too.

As Nobby says they are often inaccurate (I wonder if they have been left on / forgotten about after the incident has cleared / passed) and I can cite one occasion when I felt they were dangerous.

I was once driving West on the M4 when I was presented with a matrix which read "Oncomming vehicle 20mph".

Now, I was in the inside lane so started to slow immediately. However NOBODY else did. It seems so often that the info is wrong, drivers now ignore the matrix. This went on for at least 5 miles or so with repeated matrix showing the warning, and me getting nervous with my eyes on storks looking for the looney comming the wrong way.

Then the signs stopped. No explanation, nothing.

How are we supposed to react to that?!

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on August 09, 2016, 01:05:48 PM
The funniest story board I've seen was on the M4 going west near the Hungerford junction ( Caution 50 people in road ) not caution 50MPH .
We didn't see anyone in the road at all.
I aggree with NPN I think that they forget to turn them off so no one takes any notice ,then they go over the brow of a hill or round a bend and for once there is an obstruction , so I slow down from 90 MPH to 70MPH just in case .
Only joking my car won't do 90 MPH even down hill with the wind behind me and the sails up full.
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on August 09, 2016, 02:35:58 PM
I am glad I live in Leitrim! The following is a lift from a website about Leitrim -"As many of us will remember, Leitrim famously got its first traffic light back in 2003. For some reason, this was extremely amusing for the rest of the nation. In reality, it was a pedestrian light and was removed not long after as it wasn't needed. Everyone is just so nice there's no need for traffic control measures!" So there are no permanent traffic lights in Leitrim  :). However, what does annoy me is when 'they' put signs out warning of roadworks etc - they are still there months after the work has finished  :veryangry:, so all the signs tend to get ignored and then suddenly, one day, oops, there are workmen in the road!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on August 09, 2016, 03:53:01 PM
Just so everyone knows the police are warning that there are sheep on the M4 at the moment.  (But the rest of the drivers are OK) :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on August 09, 2016, 10:17:41 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on August 09, 2016, 11:56:02 AM
The matrix signs annoy me too.

As Nobby says they are often inaccurate (I wonder if they have been left on / forgotten about after the incident has cleared / passed) and I can cite one occasion when I felt they were dangerous.

There a whole load of them on the M60 and at one point there are three in very short succession. As I drove up to them, the first sign was blank and then changed to "Slow. Pedestrians in carriageway". As I passed under the sign, I could see to the next one, displaying the same thing and as I passed under the second I could see the third displaying "End". Total time from signs coming on to passing the end, less than a minute and there was no sign of anything wrong - no pedestrian, no broken down vehicles, nothing.

I also cross the Barton High-level bridge on the M60 most days and they have signs there, that always fail to show any hold-up between J11 and J12 (M62 Westward), until you have just passed J11 - despite the fact that they are only about 2/3 mile apart! It is almost as if they have decided that they don't want too much traffic using the local roads and would rather trap people on the motorway. It's even more annoying as I only get on at J10 to cross the Manchester Ship Canal and if the canal wasn't in the way, my journey to work would be half the distance and not need the motorway at all!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on August 09, 2016, 10:37:37 PM
This one always makes me chuckle

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03450/FunnySigns12-ALAMY_3450173n.jpg)

Also available in motorway colours
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on August 09, 2016, 11:01:54 PM
On a road near our house there is a sign warning drivers of toads. The little critters only cross the road on two evenings of the year once on the first mild wet evening of late winter / very early spring as they head to a pond to mate and again a few days later after they have done so! The  sign just becomes part of the 
scenery and most people are taken by surprise.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on August 10, 2016, 09:33:18 AM
Quote from: steve836 on August 09, 2016, 11:01:54 PM
On a road near our house there is a sign warning drivers of toads. The little critters only cross the road on two evenings of the year once on the first mild wet evening of late winter / very early spring as they head to a pond to mate and again a few days later after they have done so! The  sign just becomes part of the 
scenery and most people are taken by surprise.

The ones on the lane near us are hinged in half and, except for the appropriate time(s) of the year, folded up and not visible. I believe there is a local society that is charged with monitoring the amphibians and unveiling the signs when necessary.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on August 10, 2016, 10:09:12 AM
Moved from happy section
[Well that didn't last long back to where  I was a few weeks ago :veryangry: :censored:
Wonder when I can get another appointment with a GP?/] :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on August 10, 2016, 07:10:51 PM
Quote from: jonclox on August 10, 2016, 10:09:12 AM
Moved from happy section
[Well that didn't last long back to where  I was a few weeks ago :veryangry: :censored:
Wonder when I can get another appointment with a GP?/] :censored:

You'll have to move to Clare, never have to wait more than 24hrs for an appointment with our GP
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 18, 2016, 04:25:29 PM
Last year my GP referred me to a consultant at Chorley hospital regarding my breathlessness and this resulted in me having a triple by pass in January 2016.
Today I have been to see this consultant in Chorley and his first question to me when I walked into his consulting room was "Have you had your operation yet?" to which my reply was "You're joking, right? Are you telling me you don't know?"
I filled him in on the details and then he asked me what medications I was on. At this point I blew my stack and shouted at him "Why aren't such details on your bloody computer system? How come you know so little about my medical history considering you referred me for the operation in the first place?"

Nothing is overshadowing my happiness at getting my driving licence back but I find the lack of communications/computer systems in the medical arena to be absolutely shocking. All those years ago a great fuss was made in my medical practice about putting all my records on computer so they could be accessed by anyone who needed to know my medical history. Bah :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored:

P.S. My mum had an operation end of last year and I was with her when the doc asked her "What blood group are you?" ???
What hope is there for us?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on August 18, 2016, 04:31:04 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 18, 2016, 04:25:29 PM
Last year my GP referred me to a consultant at Chorley hospital regarding my breathlessness and this resulted in me having a triple by pass in January 2016.
Today I have been to see this consultant in Chorley and his first question to me when I walked into his consulting room was "Have you had your operation yet?" to which my reply was "You're joking, right? Are you telling me you don't know?"
I filled him in on the details and then he asked me what medications I was on. At this point I blew my stack and shouted at him "Why aren't such details on your bloody computer system? How come you know so little about my medical history considering you referred me for the operation in the first place?"

Nothing is overshadowing my happiness at getting my driving licence back but I find the lack of communications/computer systems in the medical arena to be absolutely shocking. All those years ago a great fuss was made in my medical practice about putting all my records on computer so they could be accessed by anyone who needed to know my medical history. Bah :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored:

P.S. My mum had an operation end of last year and I was with her when the doc asked her "What blood group are you?" ???
What hope is there for us?

Frustrating but if Doctors were good at administration they would have studied business at University.

I would rather have a good diagnosis than tidy paperwork (which I think you got).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on August 18, 2016, 04:42:02 PM
More than understand you anger and frustration Mick.

I think the problem is with the admin back-up staff, or rather the lack of, that can cause this information gap.

On top of that it seems that if the notes are available, the medics rarely have time to read them.

Doesn't help the patient though

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on August 18, 2016, 04:49:11 PM
Communication between my consultants and gp are very good, hospital on Monday,prescribed different pills, Gp yesterday every thing there on my records including the scans. BUT I do often have to book appointment at least 14 days in advance.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on August 18, 2016, 05:38:57 PM
I aggree with the lack of communication and records ,a few years ago I had an endoscopy and they took some byopsies about a month later got a letter telling me I had to see a specialist in Amersham hospital so, booked a day off work and in case it was bad news Val booked a day off as well ,we got to the hospital booked in at reception waited for an hour ,my name was called we went in sat down and the Doctor said ( Good afternoon and what can I do for you today )  I showed her the letter she read it went on her computer turned round and said there was nothing at all on there that warranted an appointment with a specialist  ,every thing was OK and nothing she was worried about .
So we had both wasted a whole day off for nothing .
Still having regular blood tests and endoscopys  but no matter how I try I never get any results back to me, I've been to the surgery several times I've rung up many times but NEVER GET RESULTS .
The only good thing is I'm still here to annoy everyone .
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on August 18, 2016, 06:13:35 PM
Quote from: Bob Tidbury on August 18, 2016, 05:38:57 PM

The only good thing is I'm still here to annoy everyone .
Bob

I'm saying nowt  ;D. Seriously though, there are a lot of complaints about the 'two tier' health system here in Ireland, but I can not complain about the way I have been treated. When I saw the specialist at the end of May, he told me that I would have to have a targeted biopsy "in about 3 months". I received a telephone call this afternoon from a lovely nurse, (well she sounded lovely  :)), who asked me if I could go in on 19th September and that it would be a general anath anea annis, I will be put to sleep whist they do it, but I should be out by lunchtime. Whilst not looking forward to it, at least the GP seems to know what is happening. When I go for a visit, she just presses a few buttons on her computer and she knows where we are at. So, I am quite happy with our service.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on August 18, 2016, 07:05:47 PM
Dannyboy you say she presses a few buttons and it tells you were your at Google Earth does that if you put the postcode in ,and when I turn my IPad on it tells me the location is High Wycombe.
Ha Ha Ha .
Seriously though you are lucky, our surgery is a waste of space it's only open three morning a week and I don't know what we will do when it closes, all the other NHS surgeries a seem to be full up.We have tried before to find somewhere else  but no luck.
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 18, 2016, 09:23:52 PM
My GPs surgery:-

Monday - open surgery. Just turn up and wait, in the hope you'll be seen during the day
Tuesday - closed in the afternoon for training purposes
Wednesday - open all day but you can't make an appointment until 08.30 on the day
Thursday - only practice nurse in the morning. Closed in the afternoon
Friday - open all day but subject to same restrictions as Wednesday
Saturday - open morning only
Sunday - closed.

Prescriptions can only be requested between 10.00 - 12.30 and will take 48hrs to be available.

When I have my back sorted out I'll be changing to somewhere else.

Some of you may have seen on the news that Chorley A & E has closed 'temporarily' as they cannot staff it. Rumour has it they will not re-open it which dooms us to Preston hospital which is miles away and at which parking is ridiculous.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GeeBee on August 19, 2016, 08:28:46 AM
I am sorry to hear that Bob and NPN are having such bad service from their surgeries because I cannot praise my surgery enough if I ring in morning because I feel unwell I am usually offered an appointment within 1 hour but this could be because I have 5 life limiting illnesses, but life must go on I suppose.
Graham
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 19, 2016, 09:28:31 AM
We use EMIS patient access to book appointments and order repeat prescriptions. The surgery sends the prescription info to the chemist who calls a day or so later and asks us to call in. You can select which GP and which of the 2 surgeries they cover and book an appointment. If you are desperate, you can go at 11:00 and wait.
To my surprise, it seems to work quite well.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on August 20, 2016, 03:31:04 AM
Off into town to buy a new mobile phone. Old one fell from pocket into toilet last night  >:( :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on August 20, 2016, 08:24:36 AM
Quote from: Bealman on August 20, 2016, 03:31:04 AM
Off into town to buy a new mobile phone. Old one fell from pocket into toilet last night  >:( :-[
Been there, done that, got the T shirt.
When mine fell into the loo it gave out a very eerie blue light followed by darkness and a stream of bubbles - followed by an expensive bill for a new one!!
:no: :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on August 20, 2016, 08:43:49 AM
Strangely, my phone turned on when it was underwater too. I reckon the water shorts out the on-off button. But it don't turn on at all now!

I'm typing this on my new phone, but it's taking a while to learn how to drive it :dunce:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on August 20, 2016, 09:18:34 AM
Quote from: Bealman on August 20, 2016, 03:31:04 AM
Off into town to buy a new mobile phone. Old one fell from pocket into toilet last night  >:( :-[

I did the same with mine, only it wasn't the loo it was the grease trap! Not only did it not work, but ponged something horrible!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on August 20, 2016, 10:17:02 AM
Yukko  :sick2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on August 20, 2016, 12:15:42 PM
I've not done that but I once spilt a glass of wine on the keyboard of my wife's laptop.

The result was flash, bang, and a bill for a new one  :(

Best regards,


Joe
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on August 20, 2016, 12:21:01 PM
"Flash Bang" ---- Wife or laptop? :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on August 20, 2016, 12:40:56 PM
Yep, I spilt a beer on my wife's laptop once.... she belted me and we got thrown out of the restaurant
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 20, 2016, 02:09:10 PM
In the good old days, when I worked in IT, computer keyboards cost a fortune. People in the offices were always spilling stuff in them. We used to stick them in the sink and cover them with water for a couple of hours. After leaving them draining for a day or so, they were fine. Thank god, our tap water is PH neutral and almost like distilled water. It also worked with my car remote when I dropped it into the canal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on August 20, 2016, 02:12:58 PM
Quote from: Malc on August 20, 2016, 02:09:10 PM
In the good old days, when I worked in IT, computer keyboards cost a fortune. People in the offices were always spelling stuff in them. We used to stick them in the sink and cover them with water for a couple of hours. After leaving them draining for a day or so, they were fine. Thank god, our tap water is PH neutral and almost like distilled water. It also worked with my car remote when I dropped it into the canal.

Absolutely, although I have seen many times that impatience causes people to plug them in before they are absolutely dry.  My advice when you think its dry in open air stick it in a warm cupboard fro a few more days.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on August 20, 2016, 02:27:19 PM
Maybe the very best thing to do is avoid taking your phone (or keyboard!) into the loo.

Alternatively, put it on a very short chain?

Just a couple of thoughts ...  I'll go back to me Speckled Hen now. :wave:

Dave G

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MinZaPint on August 20, 2016, 03:05:47 PM
Quote from: Bealman on August 20, 2016, 12:40:56 PM
Yep, I spilt a beer on my wife's laptop once.... she belted me and we got thrown out of the restaurant

Before you paid the bill !!!! ?  :sorrysign:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: colpatben on August 20, 2016, 04:43:34 PM
Quote from: Malc on August 20, 2016, 02:09:10 PM
It also worked with my car remote when I dropped it into the canal.

Never seen a canal clean enough to see the bottom and find things (Except supermarket trolleys).

Quote
People in the offices were always spelling stuff in them.

I am always spelling funny stuff with my keyboard!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mito on August 20, 2016, 09:44:42 PM
Quote from: Malc on August 20, 2016, 02:09:10 PM
People in the offices were always spelling stuff in them.
Isn't that wot keyboards are for? :confused1:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 21, 2016, 10:36:53 AM
Quote from: colpatben on August 20, 2016, 04:43:34 PM
Quote from: Malc on August 20, 2016, 02:09:10 PM
It also worked with my car remote when I dropped it into the canal.

Never seen a canal clean enough to see the bottom and find things (Except supermarket trolleys).

Quotefortunately, because we were on our boat, I had a float on the key ring that stopped it sinking.
People in the offices were always spelling stuff in them.

I am always spelling funny stuff with my keyboard!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 22, 2016, 02:28:39 PM
People making up words - presumably as they are not literate enough to say things correctly ::)
2 spring to mind recently.

There's an advert on the television for something which involves a woman and a laptop whereby she says she has summited Everest 6 times. That's a new one. A verb - to summit.

In the Olympics people have coined a phrase "He/She has medalled so many times....."
Another new verb - to medal.

Just absolute drivel and, yes, it makes me hopping mad :veryangry2: :veryangry2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: red_death on August 22, 2016, 02:40:36 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 22, 2016, 02:28:39 PM
There's an advert on the television for something which involves a woman and a laptop whereby she says she has summited Everest 6 times. That's a new one. A verb - to summit.

Summit can be a verb according to this: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/summit?s=t (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/summit?s=t)

In climbing circles it has been used as a verb for decades. It isn't in the old copy of the concise OED that we have at work, but may just be an example of how language evolves.

Cheers, Mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 22, 2016, 02:46:06 PM
Quote from: red_death on August 22, 2016, 02:40:36 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 22, 2016, 02:28:39 PM
There's an advert on the television for something which involves a woman and a laptop whereby she says she has summited Everest 6 times. That's a new one. A verb - to summit.

Summit can be a verb according to this: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/summit?s=t (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/summit?s=t)

In climbing circles it has been used as a verb for decades. It isn't in the old copy of the concise OED that we have at work, but may just be an example of how language evolves.

Cheers, Mike

It certainly makes my language evolve, Mike!
The problem is that sections of the populace such as climbers coin 'to summit' as a verb and, before we know it, it will appear in the OED ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: keithfre on August 22, 2016, 02:50:35 PM
The one that drives me nuts is to 'gift' for 'donate'. But as Mike says, the process of turning nouns into verbs has been going on for centuries and isn't likely to stop any time soon.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: keithfre on August 22, 2016, 03:15:30 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 22, 2016, 02:46:06 PM
It certainly makes my language evolve, Mike!
The problem is that sections of the populace such as climbers coin 'to summit' as a verb and, before we know it, it will appear in the OED ::)
In the old days, when the OED was a prescriptive dictionary, it would probably have been rejected. Now that it's been decided to make it a descriptive dictionary you're probably right  :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on August 22, 2016, 06:57:21 PM
The one that annoys me is "impact", used as a verb.

What's wrong with "affected by" instead of "impacted by" ?

Another one is "stakeholders".

What's wrong with "interested parties" ?

Best regards,


Joe
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on August 22, 2016, 07:05:23 PM
Mine are

"stakeholders" mine's a T bone
"disruptive" as in technology
"solidarity" my locomotive is suffering from it!

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Yet_Another on August 22, 2016, 10:25:08 PM
Anyone familiar with 'report into' when some management numpty is describing a change in organisation structure?

I always think of them all shouting up each others' bottoms.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on August 23, 2016, 08:39:58 AM
Quote from: Yet_Another on August 22, 2016, 10:25:08 PM
Anyone familiar with 'report into' when some management numpty is describing a change in organisation structure?

I always think of them all shouting up each others' bottoms.

They talk out of that area most of the time, so it makes sense to have ears there, too... :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Webbo on August 23, 2016, 09:43:41 AM
Quote from: joe cassidy on August 22, 2016, 06:57:21 PM
The one that annoys me is "impact", used as a verb.

What's wrong with "affected by" instead of "impacted by" ?

Another one is "stakeholders".

What's wrong with "interested parties" ?

Best regards,


Joe

Stakeholders - I first think of someone helping to kill a vampire. All seriousness aside, surely a stakeholder has more at stake than someone who is just interested? English is a wonderful language and Shakespeare would have approved of what's going on especially considering he has been more guilty of introducing new words into the language than anyone else by a country mile. 

Webbo
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on August 24, 2016, 04:18:33 AM
'Stakeholders' is one of those buzzwords that seem to come into fashion and then get horribly overused in situations where it doesn't really make sense, similar to 'gamechanger' and the worst one at the moment - 'turbo' ::)

I can see how a goal may be a 'gamechanger' in a football match, maybe by giving that team the impetus to play better from then on, but unless the subject of the conversation IS in fact a game then the word is just inappropriate. Doesn't stop the bandwagon-jumpers using it every five minutes. Not as bad as "turbo" though, especially when describing products such as razors (Mach 3 Turbo) and cleaning products (Cillit Bang Turbo Power). Does your razor/cleaner actually have a mechanical turbine/compressor unit driven from the exhaust (what exhaust?) To increase intake pressure? No? Stop calling it 'turbo' then!  >:(


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on August 24, 2016, 12:17:33 PM
There is one neologisme I do like :

"deal breaker"

Best regards,


Joe
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ozymandias on August 24, 2016, 01:47:44 PM
Fuming. Spent ages cleaning, servicing and testing a very sweet little Fleischmann 2-6-0 tank, got it running really sweetly and sold it on eBay.

The buyer has just sent me a request to return it because it arrived broken - the (very strong) postal tube I used to send it had been absolutely squashed flat in the post, despite the "FRAGILE" tape adorning both ends. All the valve gear's in bits and it looks like the shell is badly damaged.

It's not that it's cost me money, although it has - it's the sadness of a lovely loco being ruined by some clumsy oaf from the Royal Mail. :(  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 24, 2016, 03:03:59 PM
Having seen your work I am not surprised you're fuming, Gideon.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NeMo on August 24, 2016, 05:23:12 PM
Quote from: Ozymandias on August 24, 2016, 01:47:44 PM
It's not that it's cost me money, although it has - it's the sadness of a lovely loco being ruined by some clumsy oaf from the Royal Mail. :(  :veryangry:

Was it insured? I think Royal Mail Special Delivery insures to the first £50; thereafter you can pay extra premiums. Something like that anyway!

Definitely something to pass on (in terms of costs) to the eBay buyer.

Cheers, NeMo
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: keithfre on August 25, 2016, 05:33:25 PM
http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20160825-why-medalling-and-summering-are-so-annoying (http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20160825-why-medalling-and-summering-are-so-annoying)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 25, 2016, 09:35:59 PM
Thanks Keith.
The problem with verbing is it's snowballing. ;)
The article states it's because English speakers like it easy but, and I'm sorry, to me it's just being lazy or portraying a lack of knowledge.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 25, 2016, 09:39:40 PM
I blame modern technology. Texting on mobile phones and abbreviations like UR and suchlike drive me up the wall when they are used in emails, posts on forums and not phone texts.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Yet_Another on August 25, 2016, 10:30:51 PM
That would be 'writing text messages on mobile phones'  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Webbo on August 25, 2016, 11:15:07 PM
Thanks Keith

I hadn't realised that verbing was so pervasive and has been going on for centuries long predating mobile phones.

I admit somewhat sheepishly to using the word 'golding' in another thread referring to the Olympics on the NGF last week. Much more efficient use of words than 'winning a gold medal at the Olympics' Unrepentant I am.

Webbo 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on August 25, 2016, 11:23:52 PM
Quote from: Malc on August 25, 2016, 09:39:40 PM
I blame modern technology. Texting on mobile phones and abbreviations like UR and suchlike drive me up the wall when they are used in emails, posts on forums and not phone texts.

No wot ur sayin. I evn h8 it on txt msgs. Wots rong wiv propr english?  :smiley-laughing: ;D ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on August 26, 2016, 06:25:15 AM
Quote from: Malc on August 25, 2016, 09:39:40 PMposts on forums
Now there's a verb which has been nouned. If you asked someone 25 years ago what a "forum post" is, they'd probably imagine it's something to do with Roman architecture. Or a letter delivery service at some kind of conference.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 26, 2016, 09:33:00 AM
Posts in that context is a noun, referring to the item, not the act of doing it. Similarly text on phones is a noun referring to the note, not the act of writing it. So there :moony: :moony:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 26, 2016, 10:51:54 AM
Presumably we are all foruming (at the mouth, maybe)?
:-* :moony: :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Buffin on August 26, 2016, 12:13:45 PM
Quote from: Ozymandias on August 24, 2016, 01:47:44 PM
Fuming. Spent ages cleaning, servicing and testing a very sweet little Fleischmann 2-6-0 tank, got it running really sweetly and sold it on eBay.

The buyer has just sent me a request to return it because it arrived broken - the (very strong) postal tube I used to send it had been absolutely squashed flat in the post, despite the "FRAGILE" tape adorning both ends. All the valve gear's in bits and it looks like the shell is badly damaged.

It's not that it's cost me money, although it has - it's the sadness of a lovely loco being ruined by some clumsy oaf from the Royal Mail. :(  :veryangry:

Sometimes I think they see "Fragile" as a challenge.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jon898 on August 26, 2016, 01:39:00 PM
Quote from: Buffin on August 26, 2016, 12:13:45 PM

Sometimes I think they see "Fragile" as a challenge.

The same way the label "Photographs Do Not Bend" used to attract the scribbled notation "Oh, yes they do!"
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on August 26, 2016, 01:48:41 PM
I remember that the joke shop in Glasgow received a case of glass stink bombs from ParcelForce.

They would not admit they had dropped the box..........  Most of the City center knew they had.   :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: javlinfaw7 on August 26, 2016, 04:00:34 PM
Tam Shephard's is still there and has not change in at least 50 years
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on August 26, 2016, 04:33:28 PM
Quote from: javlinfaw7 on August 26, 2016, 04:00:34 PM
Tam Sephardi is still there and has not change in at least 50 years

More like 100 years - I seem to remember it was a returned soldier from the great war who founded it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on August 26, 2016, 10:00:09 PM
Quote from: Malc on August 26, 2016, 09:33:00 AM
Posts in that context is a noun, referring to the item, not the act of doing it. Similarly text on phones is a noun referring to the note, not the act of writing it. So there :moony: :moony:

I love the English language - we can text a text and post the post. We can even drink a drink and we can see the sea. We read a book and then say that it has been read. Now whether the weather will be ........... sorry! I'll go now  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Yet_Another on September 01, 2016, 09:54:58 PM
Extremely hacked off.

Postie has taken it upon himself to deliver a signed-for item to someone else at another address, while helpfully not leaving any indication that he's done it.

I will now not be getting my eBay purchase until some time next week, assuming that I can get anyone to own up to receiving said parcel.

Beggars belief.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Agrippa on September 01, 2016, 10:30:38 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on August 26, 2016, 10:00:09 PM
Quote from: Malc on August 26, 2016, 09:33:00 AM
Posts in that context is a noun, referring to the item, not the act of doing it. Similarly text on phones is a noun referring to the note, not the act of writing it. So there :moony: :moony:

I love the English language - we can text a text and post the post. We can even drink a drink and we can see the sea. We read a book and then say that it has been read. Now whether the weather will be ........... sorry! I'll go now  :)

In this case where a verb become a noun that is a gerund,
eg "my wife's cooking is awful"  in which the verb "cooking "
becomes a noun as a substitute for meals, dinners, food  etc.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on September 01, 2016, 11:04:31 PM
I believe you can find out who signed for it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on September 02, 2016, 09:08:43 AM
Quote from: Yet_Another on September 01, 2016, 09:54:58 PM
Extremely hacked off.

Postie has taken it upon himself to deliver a signed-for item to someone else at another address, while helpfully not leaving any indication that he's done it.

I will now not be getting my eBay purchase until some time next week, assuming that I can get anyone to own up to receiving said parcel.

Beggars belief.

Depending on your relationship with your postman, I would be inclined to lodge a formal complaint. Royal Mail has failed to deliver the item to the name and address shown.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 02, 2016, 09:47:36 AM
Surely the problem lies now with whoever sent the item to you as you can call them and say you have not received the item and require a refund from them. They should have the tracking number and so be able to use the 'Track & Trace' website
If you don't want to go down that road I suggest you call your local sorting office to tell them what the problem is.
If the postie didn't put a card through your letter box how do you know he's given it to someone else?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mark100 on September 02, 2016, 11:57:19 AM
Quote from: Malc on September 01, 2016, 11:04:31 PM
I believe you can find out who signed for it.
That's what I thought
If the postman picks an address out at Random, he MUST put a note through your door stating where he has posted it, If not, it can be led up to disciplinary action on the postman.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on September 02, 2016, 12:02:49 PM
I've lost my old passport due to courier systems,.

Bring back model shops where you see something and pay cash.  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on September 02, 2016, 12:05:20 PM
QuoteI've lost my old passport due to courier systems

Last used to illegally enter Germany, and it only cost him £500!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 02, 2016, 12:10:33 PM
Quote from: Snowwolflair on September 02, 2016, 12:05:20 PM
QuoteI've lost my old passport due to courier systems

Last used to illegally enter Germany, and it only cost him £500!

Yeah - my first suspects would be John le Carré or Frederick Forsyth :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Yet_Another on September 02, 2016, 12:39:37 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on September 02, 2016, 09:47:36 AM
Surely the problem lies now with whoever sent the item to you as you can call them and say you have not received the item and require a refund from them. They should have the tracking number and so be able to use the 'Track & Trace' website
If you don't want to go down that road I suggest you call your local sorting office to tell them what the problem is.
If the postie didn't put a card through your letter box how do you know he's given it to someone else?
Well yes, I could just go back to the seller, but they haven't done anything wrong, and that would drag it out even further.

It was an ebay sale, and they very helpfully added the tracking number, which is how I can know that the parcel has been delivered. The Royal Mail tracking info is very helpful: 'Latest update: Delivered to your address or a neighbour'

That's completely covered their bottoms hasn't it? Delivered to an unspecified address, only identified by someone's scrawl on a little machine.

As I'm not there this weekend, I can't go round knocking on doors looking for it, whereas if they'd just taken it back to the office, like they have every other time, I could have picked it up on the way to work this morning.

I'd calmed down this morning, but I'm just getting angry again now. :veryangry:  :veryangry:  :veryangry:

Just as an aside, a friend's experience with Paypal was that if someone's signed for it, then they count it as delivered, so you can't open a dispute. I'm not intending on doing anything of the kind this time, but if I can't trust the Royal Mail to deliver things to the right place, then all of Paypal's buyer/seller protection schemes are a waste of time.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 02, 2016, 12:51:28 PM
Hopefully your neighbour is just waiting to catch sight of you to hand it over, Tony.
It's not good enough and a card should have been left by the postie telling you where the parcel is.
In my cul-de-sac folks are generally pretty good but I refuse to hold parcels for the young couple next door as they don't come to collect them and I'm bugjiggered if I'm going to deliver to them. :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Yet_Another on September 02, 2016, 12:58:51 PM
Yeah. Fortunately, I think I know where it is. Unfortunately, I wish it wasn't. Usual neighbour politics  >:(

Looks like I can change my plans, and hopefully get home tonight in time to go round. I'm not impressed, though.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on September 02, 2016, 03:00:43 PM
Being a postie your one should have put a red card through your door saying which address he left it at. We are now required to try neighbours if you are out and an act of parliament was required to allow RM to do it (couriers have different rules/licenses). You can opt out of having it delivered to neighbours. The main reason RM have followed courier companies and gone down this route is pressure from the senders. They want it delivered immediately, not returned to the office if you're out, and RM were threatened with loss of business unless they started trying neighbours. I hate it though from a personal point of view as it can be hard getting parcels from neighbours and from a work point of view it causes nothing but problems.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 02, 2016, 04:01:35 PM
I have some neighbours who should be tried.................and then sent down >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on September 02, 2016, 06:16:22 PM
"Neighbours of Nobby, you have pleaded guilty to the charges brought before this court, and it is now my duty to pass sentence"

;)

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 02, 2016, 09:08:49 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on September 02, 2016, 06:16:22 PM
"Neighbours of Nobby, you have pleaded guilty to the charges brought before this court, and it is now my duty to pass sentence"

;)

Skyline2uk

It wouldn't surprise me if his name was Norman Stanley Fletcher :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Oldman on September 04, 2016, 11:58:31 AM
 :veryangry: not impressed with the people we were supposed to be swapping home's with..
Said they wanted to move this weekend because they were going on holiday on the 9th. Contacted them on Friday and they have not yet finished sorting out stuff the housing association insisted they correct them before final approval can be given. Could be at least another fortnight now. :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 04, 2016, 12:02:10 PM
It's why divorce, house moves and composing entries for the N Gauge Journal are considered extremely traumatic. Having been through the first two at least once myself, you have my sympathy.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on September 04, 2016, 01:20:51 PM
I assume it's fairly widespread that a Post Office opens at 9.00am.

I ordered a "Click and Collect" from Amazon to be collected from my nearest Post Office branch .
This is also as often happens a shop with the Post Office in it and sells amongst other things Newspapers so I'm assuming that they will open well before 9.00am.

The Royal Mail are the carriers for this,so it should be easy for Royal Mail to deliver to one of their own Post Offices.

The delivery was attempted at 7.57am last Thursday and a card was left to say the premises were innaccesible.
Parcel taken back to delivery office in Newark where it now remains.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 04, 2016, 05:09:54 PM
Our local Post Office is in the Spar shop (which opens at 7 a.m.) with no separation between the 2 businesses apart from a separate queuing area, till etc. If your shop is the same then the parcel certainly could have been left but if, as in some shops, it is a separate enclosed and locked structure then what you have described would be possible, Allan.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on September 04, 2016, 05:22:12 PM
It is a separate area,however it doesn't take a genius to work out that the Post Office won't be open until 9.00am,so no point in even attempting a delivery before then.

I'm beginning to wonder if Newark Royal Mail is trying to corner the market for idiots and thieves.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 04, 2016, 05:28:11 PM
Ah. Then a village somewhere is missing an idiot, I agree.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on September 04, 2016, 10:50:42 PM
Our post office is in Sainsburys and is open 8am to 8pm Mon - Sat and 10am to 4pm on a Sunday. Sounds great doesn't it? Now, if you have something sent through Parcelforce it will end up in Sainsburys and I can pick it up during those hours. However, if it's sent via Royal Mail it goes back to the sorting office which is open 7am to 12pm, yep, similar hours as to why you missed it in the first place. Even then I have to take ID with me. How on earth would I have possession of the red card if it hadn't been posted through my own front door I asked last time. Well, said the counter postie, someone may have broken into your house and stolen the card. I told him that they are far more likely to take the TV, trains, PC, laptop etc than a red card. He disagreed and eventually his supervisor let me have my item once I told him where it had come from and what it was.
The other option they use is if I have a signed for delivery (the above item wasn't, just too big for the letterbox) the postie will sign for it as "postie" and then leave it either in the shed or in full view at the front of the house on the gas meter cupboard! It can be rather frustrating trying to explain what they're doing wrong and they have received numerous written complaints from me.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ian Bowden on September 05, 2016, 12:11:30 AM
after several attempts to deliver a parcel of books at two different addresses (an essay in itself) UPS left them in my recycling bin which was emptied before i found the hidden card telling me where it was. the good news was it was in the correct recycling bin so no complaints from the council
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on September 05, 2016, 12:15:01 AM
That's another favourite with our postie, the black recycling box. We check every time it goes out now after a couple of items were never received.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ian Bowden on September 05, 2016, 08:04:27 AM
After leaving the parcel in the recycling bin the supplier tried to charge me saying that a neighbour signed for it.

Not heard from them after i asked who would sign for something left in a bin.

My postie told me he would never consider leaving a parcel in a recycling bin
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on September 05, 2016, 01:01:05 PM
A pal of mine has a box just to the side of his front door with "Parcels" stencilled on it. It has a hasp and padlock. He leaves the padlock unfastened and his postie just puts the parcel inside and clips the padlock shut.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 05, 2016, 01:13:46 PM
A couple of years ago a postie put a parcel in my meter cupboard outside. Trouble is he didn't close the cupboard door properly and in the howling gale prevailing at the time the door was wrenched off it's hinges and I found it 20ft down the drive. What made matters worse is that I couldn't source a replacement door so had to just screw hinges to it. :veryangry:
Do posties come out (dressed in shorts of course regardless of the weather) armed with meter cupboard keys?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Yet_Another on September 05, 2016, 03:08:44 PM
Probably just a Swiss Army knife.

To follow up on my earlier rant, I was out on Saturday, and postie delivered my parcel from Hattons, correctly putting it in the shed, and leaving a card to say it was there. So far, so good.

But then, the additional note on the card read "please can you deliver next door's".

Somewhat puzzled, I looked for another parcel, but there wasn't one. 'Oh well' I thought, 'perhaps they've already been and collected it, because they had a note as well.'

But no. On checking the letters that had also been delivered, I had all of next door's post as well as mine.  :confused1:  :confused2:

Very odd indeed  :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 05, 2016, 04:43:58 PM
Another job for Muldur & Scully :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on September 08, 2016, 08:53:17 PM
 :-\ Called out duty GP this afternoon.  Not met her before but can expect duty GPs to call on me every day now until I get over present bad spell or give in and go back into hospital  :'( which is what they are advising  :-\ >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GeeBee on September 08, 2016, 10:19:12 PM
Sorry to hear that Jon but from my experience I would fight for a little while but you may have to give in in the end fingers crossed for you
Graham
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 09, 2016, 08:25:00 AM
I have very little confidence in my GP and absolutely detest being in hospital but please heed their advice, Jon. :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on September 09, 2016, 10:56:25 AM
Todays duty GP been on the phone and is 'content' to let me stay at home for the time being but will contact me Monday. Situation improved here this morning
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on September 09, 2016, 11:45:39 AM
Good to hear, Jon.

Take it easy.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ian Bowden on September 22, 2016, 12:50:46 AM
A neighbour asked if he could pick a few apples for his wife from my trees. I said I was intending to pick them later in the week but he was welcome to take some. my best tree has now one apple (damaged) and i have plenty of very small windfalls left. Bet I don't even get an apple pie as thanks.

Electric fence next year
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mito on September 22, 2016, 05:16:02 PM
I know what the answer will be next year  >:D  :censored: :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ian Bowden on September 23, 2016, 12:15:43 AM
better still h :unimpressed:
ttp://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1311.R1.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.Xbarbed+wire.TRS0&_nkw=barbed+wire&_sacat=0
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on October 12, 2016, 11:32:48 AM
Amazon....Grrrrrrrr.

I use a FireTV box and mainly watch Netflix.
On Sunday I switched on and as usual got the Amazon front page with the opportunity to watch their movies through Prime.

They do a movie only version at the same price as Netflix,which is what I wanted.
So I clicked on the banner at the top for details and was immediately enrolled in Amazon Prime at £79.00 for the year,this was not what I wanted,all I wanted was the £5.99 per month film service.

The £79.00 was immediately taken from the account that I only ever put money in to purchase things.I was never given a chance to see which account the money would be taken from.

This made me overdrawn so I contacted the 0800 number for Amazon to cancel the transaction. The call was connected to a barely understandable female in Manilla who was unable to sort it but passed me to another hard to understand woman.

I asked to be transfered to someone in this country and was given the same 0800 number. I tried this and was straight back where I started,but eventually got transfered to a man in the Caribbean !!!!!
The only answer I could get was that the money would be put back in my account in 5 to 7 days.

I eventually found a link to just get the video streaming so started a monthly subscription,however when I come to use it,the majority of films are to buy or rent and not included in the package,bit of a con really.

It'll be cancelled before the next payment is due.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: JBQFC on November 09, 2016, 12:01:58 PM
would like to thank the idiot that knocked me off my bike this morning two lights reflectors and a hi vis and he still did not see me :censored:
i am ok but the bike is a mess got all his details so has a big bill coming
heis coming round to see me tonight to discuss things  hope he not thinking a new cheap bike is the answer as my bike was not cheap
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on November 09, 2016, 12:18:33 PM
Quote from: JBQFC on November 09, 2016, 12:01:58 PM
would like to thank the idiot that knocked me off my bike this morning two lights reflectors and a hi vis and he still did not see me :censored:
i am ok but the bike is a mess got all his details so has a big bill coming
heis coming round to see me tonight to discuss things  hope he not thinking a new cheap bike is the answer as my bike was not cheap

Wow that's rubbish!

But fingers crossed seeing as he gave you details he will play it straight.

Important thing is you are ok.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 09, 2016, 01:55:35 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on November 09, 2016, 12:18:33 PM

But fingers crossed seeing as he gave you details he will play it straight.


If the bloke is going round tonight then it seems he is playing it straight, that's providing he's not coming round to lamp you one in private for scratching his car :uneasy:
The main thing is that you're OK - the bike is replaceable.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: JBQFC on November 09, 2016, 07:00:25 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on November 09, 2016, 01:55:35 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on November 09, 2016, 12:18:33 PM

But fingers crossed seeing as he gave you details he will play it straight.


If the bloke is going round tonight then it seems he is playing it straight, that's providing he's not coming round to lamp you one in private for scratching his car :uneasy:
The main thing is that you're OK - the bike is replaceable.
great news i am now the owner of a nice new bike the same as my old one big thumbs up to the guy he was great
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on November 09, 2016, 08:03:27 PM
Quote from: JBQFC on November 09, 2016, 07:00:25 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on November 09, 2016, 01:55:35 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on November 09, 2016, 12:18:33 PM

But fingers crossed seeing as he gave you details he will play it straight.


If the bloke is going round tonight then it seems he is playing it straight, that's providing he's not coming round to lamp you one in private for scratching his car :uneasy:
The main thing is that you're OK - the bike is replaceable.
great news i am now the owner of a nice new bike the same as my old one big thumbs up to the guy he was great

Ok, no way should getting knocked off your bike result in an entry to the "Happy" thread, but surely you got hit by a rare super honest driver!

Just so long as you yourself are ok.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mito on November 09, 2016, 08:33:58 PM
Glad you're ok and that everything was sorted to your satisfaction. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on November 09, 2016, 09:19:45 PM
Nice one!

Glad everything was sorted. Good on the driver and even better that you're (still) in one piece.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on November 19, 2016, 09:09:57 PM
It's been one of those days  :'(

I spent much of the day doing a bit of diy - with the usual problem of struggling to find everything and the working area in the garage being cluttered - but otherwise ok.

Then my wife came down late in the afternoon (she's been in bed, in pain, with kidney stones) and said it was freezing in the bathroom, so she'd pressed the boost on the central heating and would have a read for a bit and shower later. An hour later, I went in the bathroom and it was still freezing. It turns out that the boiler has gone faulty.

I stripped the boiler down and found (as has happened before) that the fan bearings have seized. I know I have a spare set somewhere, but have no clue where they are, so no heating 'til Monday.

As the heating had been running without the boiler, the radiators have sucked all the heat out of the hot water tank. No problem, we still have the (normally unused) immersion heater, except that the thermostat on that has failed. It is an 18" thermostat. A quick trip to our local B&Q (only place still open) revealed that they only sell 27" immersions (which use 18" thermostats), but only sell 7" thermostats - so no hot water 'til tomorrow now. Screwfix, which they own, sell 7", 11" and 18", but they are shut.

To top it off, I wasn't in the mood for a proper meal after all that and though I'd just buy some bacon potato skins in the local Sainsburys. They've re-arranged the chillers and I couldn't find them. The staff couldn't find them. It turns out they've stopped selling them  :veryangry:

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on November 19, 2016, 09:14:01 PM
Stevewalker , best idea is go and run some trains , I ALLWAYS  find that calms me down and I feel a lot better.
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on November 19, 2016, 09:21:54 PM
                                      "It turns out they've stopped selling them  :very angry: "
Has anybody else noticed this with supermarkets. You go every week and buy something and suddenly they do not have what you want, "Oh sir we have stopped selling those" It happens all the time at my local Asda.....  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 19, 2016, 09:40:35 PM
Sorry, but foodwise this is going to happen more and more. Not long ago Tesco threatened to remove Marmite from their shelves as Unilever were going to raise the price by some 10%. Tesco got all the headlines but other major supermarkets were also involved. I reckon anyone trying to raise their prices to the supermarkets will have products removed. Following on from Steve's sorry tale not so long ago I finally found cheese & bacon bit filled potato skins in stock again at Tesco after at least a year of them disappearing. Now there's a full range of 'Mexican' meals.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on November 19, 2016, 10:03:28 PM
Both my local supermarkets here in Aus have stopped selling those nice little one serve packets of cereal. Can't get 'em anywhere.

Sorry to hear of your misfortune with the bike, Skyline2uk, but as everyone says, at least injuries were not involved.

I'd like to have words with the so and so who knocked my phone off on Friday night. Having lost one down very same loo earlier this year, I took it out of my pocket and put it on the cistern.  Left it there, and when I realised 5 mins later and went back for it.... gone.  :censored:

It has not been handed in, nor does it answer when I ring it. Looks like another new phone - the difference being I have lost all contacts and literally hundreds of photos which were on the SD card. Probably have to get a new number as well, which in itself is a right royal hassle.

Not having much luck with phones this year!  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 19, 2016, 10:07:36 PM
Quote from: lil chris on November 19, 2016, 09:21:54 PM
                                      "Oh sir we have stopped selling those"

Then they usually add "There's no call for them anymore". To which I reply, "what do you think I am doing now"  ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on November 19, 2016, 10:56:58 PM
Quote from: Bob Tidbury on November 19, 2016, 09:14:01 PM
Stevewalker , best idea is go and run some trains , I ALLWAYS  find that calms me down and I feel a lot better.
Bob

I am doing an alternative pastime, but still railway related, to settle down. I am in the middle of writing my first proper Arduino (and first C) program. I have so far got it displaying messages on an LCD, driving a stepper motor and detecting the motor's zero position using a slotted opto-switch - all part of my planned turntable motorising project.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on November 19, 2016, 11:04:31 PM
That sounds most interesting. How about posting some details in the electronics section, please?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: A.Carter (BiG-T) on November 20, 2016, 07:37:13 AM
Quote from: lil chris on November 19, 2016, 09:21:54 PM
                                      "It turns out they've stopped selling them  :very angry: "
Has anybody else noticed this with supermarkets. You go every week and buy something and suddenly they do not have what you want, "Oh sir we have stopped selling those" It happens all the time at my local Asda.....  :veryangry:
The other favorite is 'There's no call for them so we have stopped selling them, but we can get them in to order'...... I buy them every week so how can there be no call for them!

Tony C
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 20, 2016, 09:21:11 AM
Maybe one person does not create a demand? :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on November 20, 2016, 11:39:54 AM
Quote from: Bealman on November 19, 2016, 10:03:28 PM
Both my local supermarkets here in Aus have stopped selling those nice little one serve packets of cereal. Can't get 'em anywhere.

Sorry to hear of your misfortune with the bike, Skyline2uk, but as everyone says, at least injuries were not involved.

I'd like to have words with the so and so who knocked my phone off on Friday night. Having lost one down very same loo earlier this year, I took it out of my pocket and put it on the cistern.  Left it there, and when I realised 5 mins later and went back for it.... gone.  :censored:

It has not been handed in, nor does it answer when I ring it. Looks like another new phone - the difference being I have lost all contacts and literally hundreds of photos which were on the SD card. Probably have to get a new number as well, which in itself is a right royal hassle.

Not having much luck with phones this year!  >:(

I there are no embarassing SMS messages in your phone George  :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on November 20, 2016, 03:44:17 PM
Quote from: Bealman on November 19, 2016, 11:04:31 PM
That sounds most interesting. How about posting some details in the electronics section, please?

I will do once I get a little further.

I had hoped to do more this weekend, but I seem to have spent most of it rushing around and wasting time.

I went this morning to get a new thermostat for the immersion heater. Got home and found the design had changed (despite the catalogue and website showing the existing design) and the new thermostat won't fit the old immersion ... no-one stocks the old design. Went back for a refund and bought a replacement immersion and a spanner for it. Struggled to get the spanner on the old immersion and in the process the top of the tank "popped" down. Eventually found that the brand new immersion heater spanner is slightly undersized and won't go onto either the old or new immersions! Back out again, another refund. Box spanner alternative not in stock. Went to another shop and got a spanner there. Have been totally unable to shift the old immersion - not helped by the weakness of the tank top where it has "popped" down!

Now very annoyed and frustrated. I will probably give up for now, use a kettle to heat some water in the morning, work a half day and pick up bearings for the boiler fan motor in the afternoon. I don't think I can face another go at the immersion tonight!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on November 20, 2016, 03:48:42 PM
Grief! How frustrating is that?

Hope your blood pressure is returning to normal and that tomorrow you can get things sorted.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on November 20, 2016, 04:03:28 PM
Good grief, Steve. A day and a half! Try some WD40 on the threads. Leave it for a while and have another go. Failing that, use a blow torch to heat it up.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DELETED on November 20, 2016, 07:28:51 PM
Arrg I'm having a bad fortnight with a few things.  There is a jinx on me when I buy something as it's unusual that something doesn't have to go back because it's faulty.

Spent 2 weeks chasing a seller on ebay for a newdual SIM rugged IP rated phone for work -long story but turns out to be a dodgy seller in China, not UK as advertised.  Finally got new phone today from RM depot (open on Sundays!), RM guy hadn't followed protocol which didn't help.  Bought a second SIM card at £10 as am trying to explore anyone better than O2, put both my sims in the phone and it only recognises SIM card slot No 2 whatever SIM is fitted.

Tried a few things -both SIMS OK then looked inside at the card slots in the phone .......SIM card slot number 1 has 3 contacts missing on the PCB.  No wonder it doesn't recognise the SIM.

So 2 ebay cases raised so far and a 3rd reported for seller giving fake information and shipping outwith ebay policy.  This is going to take weeks to resolve I think.  Makes me even more adamant I will NOT knowingly buy (and I stopped selling) anything from outside UK now. It's not worth the hassle these days.  Late del and OK -faulty goods but seller has just lied through their teeth at evey stage and I can't take that.

Rich
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 20, 2016, 09:20:50 PM
I don't think some companies actually know what customer service is.
My Philips HD Freeview box with hard drive memory has developed an annoying but not unsurmountable problem so I got onto their website and sent them a message detailing the problem. I got a reply stating they were looking into it and I'd get a response from their techies within 4 working days. Did I heck as like :unimpressed: Fired off another message asking whether they could actually count days on their fingers.
Some of my rellies want Trafford Centre vouchers for upcoming birthdays and Christmas so I tried to order 3 birthday type and 3 Christmas type but couldn't find how to do it without placing 2 orders and copping for 2 lots of postage at £5.49 (how the hell does it cost £5.49 to send out 3 vouchers in the post?). There is a live chat facility on their site so I sent a message asking for help. 24 hours later - zilch, nada, nothing - so obviously there is no living person attached to their end. Again, like Philips, I sent them a message to their 'Help' department but again got no reply. In the end I did manage to find a way to do what I wanted to do and at least had to pay just the 1 x £5.49 postage for 6 vouchers.
Before someone asks why I didn't just ring them up - I like to get responses from companies about their products in writing.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 20, 2016, 09:57:48 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on November 20, 2016, 09:20:50 PM
I like to get responses from companies about their products in writing.

I also like to have something in writing - things can not be disputed if I have it in writing!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on November 21, 2016, 10:57:47 AM
We havnt got an UNHAPPY THREAD so I will have to post here
My 19 year old Punto has just failed its MOT for the first time on two things ,but there are a lot of advisories on it so I  think its time to say goodbye to it .
I don't use it that often so it will be a lot of expense for it just to sit on the drive we still have Vals car so she will have to lend it to me or take me if I need to go somewhere .
Never mind we will get a refund on the tax and insurance so it's not all bad news.
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 21, 2016, 11:31:11 AM
Quote from: Bob Tidbury on November 21, 2016, 10:57:47 AM
We havnt got an UNHAPPY THREAD so I will have to post here


@Bob Tidbury (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3442)
Oh yes we have. Only 40 pages of it, Bob. Must pay attention in class. :telloff:

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=29358.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=29358.0)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NinOz on November 21, 2016, 11:32:26 AM
Quote from: Bob Tidbury on November 21, 2016, 10:57:47 AM
We havnt got an UNHAPPY THREAD
Not your day is it?
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=29358.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=29358.0)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on November 21, 2016, 11:37:54 AM
So we have Mick , I must have missed that ,just read the link you and NinOz put so I expect one of the mods will move my post to the correct place .
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on November 21, 2016, 11:39:35 AM
It's more fun if they leave it where it is, Bob.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on November 21, 2016, 11:47:14 AM
It might be fun to you Malc but not from where I am ,it now means unless Val lends me her car or takes me somewhere I'm now housebound.
There is no way we can afford another car.
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on November 21, 2016, 01:28:33 PM
Can't complain too much Bob if it's 19 years old and only just failed, especially for a Fiat ;)

Clare's Fiesta is only 15 years old and she spent £200 on welding for the MoT, plus a new windscreen (excess only - £50), and bought a new battery for the winter at £90. Two weeks ago it threw a tappet and lunched the cylinder head on the A1, beyond economic repair now  :'(

Luckily with us both changing jobs I can drop her off and pick her up for now, and we have a classic car to sell to provide funds for a replacement, but otherwise we'd be stuffed  :worried:


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on November 21, 2016, 02:19:17 PM
Sorry to hear of your problems Paul and I hope Clair is Ok things like that can sometimes be nasty ,but also its nice to know I'm not the only one with bad news .and as you say my car was 19 years old and never failed up till now ,as someone who knows about cars if I said it needs a new trailing arm new brake pipes  two new tyres not because of the tread but the side walls on the inside are perished with age so I couldn't see ,,that plus other minor things you will understand it's not economical to get it repaired .
Regards
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on November 21, 2016, 02:48:55 PM
Quote from: Bob Tidbury on November 21, 2016, 02:19:17 PM
Sorry to hear of your problems Paul and I hope Clair is Ok things like that can sometimes be nasty ,but also its nice to know I'm not the only one with bad news .and as you say my car was 19 years old and never failed up till now ,as someone who knows about cars if I said it needs a new trailing arm new brake pipes  two new tyres not because of the tread but the side walls on the inside are perished with age so I couldn't see ,,that plus other minor things you will understand it's not economical to get it repaired .
Regards
Bob

Ignore the tyres, Bob, they are a consumable spare. The brake pipes shouldn't be too expensive, and after 19 years are about due to be replaced, so, really it's down to the trailing arm so I would be inclined to say , better the devil you know. The cost may be slightly more than the car is worth if you wanted to sell, but an otherwise reliable motor is worth hanging on to, and, who knows, it might start to increase in value.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on November 21, 2016, 03:02:43 PM
Glad I don't have or need a car (every time I click on that "order" button).

Now, computers... Evil nasty things, grrrr. I really wish I could travel back in time a decade, and cast a spell on the people who decide things, and say "keep it like this and just fix the bugs and make it faster, no new fancy stuff" (and I don't even use Windows...)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on November 21, 2016, 05:42:05 PM
Quote from: steve836 on November 21, 2016, 02:48:55 PM
Quote from: Bob Tidbury on November 21, 2016, 02:19:17 PM
Sorry to hear of your problems Paul and I hope Clair is Ok things like that can sometimes be nasty ,but also its nice to know I'm not the only one with bad news .and as you say my car was 19 years old and never failed up till now ,as someone who knows about cars if I said it needs a new trailing arm new brake pipes  two new tyres not because of the tread but the side walls on the inside are perished with age so I couldn't see ,,that plus other minor things you will understand it's not economical to get it repaired .
Regards
Bob

Ignore the tyres, Bob, they are a consumable spare. The brake pipes shouldn't be too expensive, and after 19 years are about due to be replaced, so, really it's down to the trailing arm so I would be inclined to say , better the devil you know. The cost may be slightly more than the car is worth if you wanted to sell, but an otherwise reliable motor is worth hanging on to, and, who knows, it might start to increase in value.

That's exactly what we thought, hence spending to get it through the MoT. Trouble is there comes a time when you have to consider that what it needs NOW could only be the start of what it might need before the next MoT, and the next . . . ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on November 22, 2016, 06:04:42 PM
Well, managed to fix the boiler yesterday and have abandoned attempts to remove the immersion heater - I may try again at the weekend, may try an Essex flange to fit a second heater or may just abandon it and rely on the boiler for now.

Meanwhile, in the middle of last night, our eldest son complained of drips falling on him in bed. Yes, water was dripping from the light fitting! I am hoping that the heavy rain and strong winds drove water up the flat roof, up under the tiles of the pitched roof and then it worked its way back down to the light over a few hours - if its more serious than that, I may just have to go away and cry  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on November 22, 2016, 07:02:45 PM
This time Im in the right thread .I am angry.
For some reason my Facebook messenger just won't load all I get is a blank white screen I just hope I havnt lost all the photos of my grandaughter .
Facebook itself is working ok so is everything else .
Has anyone else got a problem ?
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on November 23, 2016, 12:51:59 PM
Was mooching in a Christmas shop in the local shopping centre when I noticed a young kid who was grizling. As I walked by, he stopped crying and started smiling. His dad said "he thinks you are Santa Clause". Just because I have white hair and beard!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on November 23, 2016, 01:09:23 PM
Quote from: Malc on November 23, 2016, 12:51:59 PM
Was mooching in a Christmas shop in the local shopping centre when I noticed a young kid who was grizling. As I walked by, he stopped crying and started smiling. His dad said "he thinks you are Santa Clause". Just because I have white hair and beard!!

So it was you that'd 'borrowed' my red jacket!!  :P

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on November 23, 2016, 02:08:34 PM
It was either that, or the sledge and 8 reindeer parked outside.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on November 23, 2016, 03:17:21 PM
Quote from: Malc on November 23, 2016, 02:08:34 PM
It was either that, or the sledge and 8 reindeer parked outside.

I understand.

Never tried getting a sledge and 8 reindeer through the front door, Always used the back one. It's wider!  ;)

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 23, 2016, 09:26:51 PM
Quote from: Malc on November 23, 2016, 12:51:59 PM
Just because I have white hair and beard!!

If you have got white hair and a beard, it's about time you changed your picture!  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on November 24, 2016, 12:41:20 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on November 23, 2016, 09:26:51 PM
Quote from: Malc on November 23, 2016, 12:51:59 PM
Just because I have white hair and beard!!

If you have got white hair and a beard, it's about time you changed your picture!  ;)

Says the dog!

However the dog is much better looking , I have seen the real Danny boy...

Jerry
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 24, 2016, 04:05:36 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on November 23, 2016, 09:26:51 PM
Quote from: Malc on November 23, 2016, 12:51:59 PM
Just because I have white hair and beard!!

If you have got white hair and a beard, it's about time you changed your picture!  ;)

Not possible. That's Malc's winter plumage. ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 24, 2016, 04:28:21 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on November 24, 2016, 12:41:20 PM
I have seen the real Danny boy...


Ouch, so cruel  :'( It was the bacon buttie that made me look like I did, (York visit joke for those that went in October  :)).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 08, 2016, 03:37:25 AM
Welcome to Christmas in my suburb.  :veryangry:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/255-081216033227.jpeg)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on December 08, 2016, 06:08:58 AM
A bit sad really but some folk, I have to suppose, don't celebrate or enjoy Christmas for whatever reason.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Webbo on December 08, 2016, 07:02:18 AM
It's the employees that have to work on Christmas Day that I feel sorry for. I suspect that they have a choice of working or losing their jobs.

Webbo
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on December 08, 2016, 08:25:12 AM
Quote from: Bealman on December 08, 2016, 03:37:25 AM
Welcome to Christmas in my suburb.  :veryangry:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/255-081216033227.jpeg)
Do they take reservations?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on December 08, 2016, 10:45:28 AM
Ah, another example of the commercialisation of the world as all times for family, friends and humanity are seen as merely a chance to make a dollar/pound/yen or what you will by so many.

Money makes the world go around, or so the saying goes, but perhaps we are spinning too fast already.  Time to slow down and smell the roses - and I don't mean the chocolates!

Can I ask for Peace on Earth and goodwill towards Mankind?

Of course sir/madam, would you like fries with that?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on December 08, 2016, 10:57:52 AM
Unfortunately, for a lot of workers, Xmas day is just another working day. Power workers, hospital staff, priests, all have to work. I worked in television for my sins, just imagine Xmas day without The Great Escape.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on December 08, 2016, 10:59:45 AM
I used to love working on Christmas day or new years eve. Apart from the bonus pay, it meant I could avoid the awful parties and had something to do. Besides, I was providing a service for everyone else (albeit a minor one, keeping a local radio station running).

While some people might prefer not to work on Christmas day (or Sundays), they may still be glad of the chance to do it because they need the money. As long as they have the choice to do so and aren't forced into it. Likewise, I'm betting the people that do have to work over the holidays, like police, ambulance, nurses, doctors, firemen etc. are glad there's a few places still open where they can grab a bite to eat (that's how American police got the "doughnut eating" tag, as the only food shops open to them during late night shifts were doughnut shops).

I'm more for sorting out employment laws so nobody gets unfairly treated and having full 24/7 trading *if you want to*, not dictated by the religious leaders.

Having lived and worked somewhere with no Sunday trading laws, I can tell you it's actually rather nice not to have to deal with people panic buying before everything shuts for a day or so.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on December 08, 2016, 11:40:19 AM
Quote from: railsquid on December 08, 2016, 08:25:12 AM
Quote from: Bealman on December 08, 2016, 03:37:25 AM
Welcome to Christmas in my suburb.  :veryangry:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/255-081216033227.jpeg)
Do they take reservations?

I suppose it all depends on how many live in the reservation  >:D

Cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on December 08, 2016, 11:48:15 AM
Quote from: Malc on December 08, 2016, 10:57:52 AM
Unfortunately, for a lot of workers, Xmas day is just another working day. Power workers, hospital staff, priests, all have to work. I worked in television for my sins, just imagine Xmas day without The Great Escape.

True Malc and I am more than grateful for those that do all of the above jobs and a few more besides.

I reckon however that we can offer the person that switches the switch to run TGE can have the rest of the decade off!

Merry Yule to all.  :wave:

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: snitchthebudgie on December 08, 2016, 11:55:20 AM
We lived next to the London to Brighton line for a number of years and always noticed how quiet it was on Christmas Day - no trains.

This year, I doubt whether anyone living next to a Southern Railway line will notice the difference.....

(Whoops, Mr Moderator, was that a political comment.)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on December 08, 2016, 12:00:26 PM
No political comment, just a light hearted play on words.

Cheers John.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: trkilliman on December 08, 2016, 12:13:05 PM
When I joined Royal Mail in the early 1980s christmas pressure was nigh on 3 weeks of consecutive 11 hr shifts. You did earn some good money and a bonus at the end of it. This was put aside to take the kids on our annual holiday to Cornwall...possibly why we chose to move their 10 years ago.

When on nights they would let you go home Christmas eve morning around 0430 but pay you until 0600.  I would just be coming out of the Zombie state Boxing day evening, and it was back to work next day.  These days I really enjoy the build up to Christmas, something that was somewhat difficult in the past.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GroupC on December 08, 2016, 12:58:39 PM
I'm working Christmas eve, Day, Boxing Day and New Year's Day (and I didn't have a great deal of say in the matter) in one of our services that never closes and from previous experiences it will be grim beyond words. Even worse than a normal day, hence my looking to leave.

Yes, the pay is worth having but spare a thought for us who may be at, or driving to, something horrible at the time you're probably tucking into turkey and roasties.

Can't wait till Feb 15th. 2017: payday, when we get the money for doing it! That's right, it takes them 6 weeks to process the o/t claims we submit electronically and which therefore arrive in the payroll office instantly.

By the way, our boss's idea of a generous flyer is 10 mins. But we have a 1-hour overlap between shifts. Hope he's not at work for the important days cos we will all slope off well early.

Anyway, Merry Christmas one and all!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 08, 2016, 03:05:07 PM
Quote from: GroupC on December 08, 2016, 12:58:39 PM

Yes, the pay is worth having but spare a thought for us who may be at, or driving to, something horrible at the time you're probably tucking into turkey and roasties.


So - you work at Asda then* :-X

*Other horrible supermarkets are available.

Before you shoot the feeble attempt at humour I'm guessing you work for one of our excellent emergency services.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on December 08, 2016, 03:26:34 PM
For the first time in umpteenth years I probably won't be working on a Christmas Day, as it evidently falls at the weekend this year and I live in one of those heathen countries where they take the Germanic decorations down on the 25th to prepare for New Year. On the upside I shall probably sneak a day off on the 23rd in honour of the local Deity-annointed Emperor, and as it's usually quiet around the end of the year in my particular line of work will TOIL in January, when people wake up from hibernation and start demanding real work.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 09, 2016, 05:22:37 AM
In retrospect, my Maccas open on Christmas Day post is probably a little hypocritical, as the Bealman clan go out for Christmas lunch every year, not MacDonalds, though.

I just got a surprise as it's the first year it's happened.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on December 09, 2016, 12:05:58 PM
Quote from: Bealman on December 09, 2016, 05:22:37 AM
In retrospect, my Maccas open on Christmas Day post is probably a little hypocritical, as the Bealman clan go out for Christmas lunch every year, not MacDonalds, though.

I just got a surprise as it's the first year it's happened.
New venue for you to try then? :P McTurkeyBurger anyone?

Back on topic, I would like to vent my anger at the small phalanx of neatly-dressed pensioners on pushbikes who decided to formation-cycle through a crowded crossing here in Tokyo, ignoring the lights and any pedestrians in their path. Utter bumblewombles.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on December 09, 2016, 12:09:39 PM
Quote from: railsquid on December 09, 2016, 12:05:58 PM
Quote from: Bealman on December 09, 2016, 05:22:37 AM
In retrospect, my Maccas open on Christmas Day post is probably a little hypocritical, as the Bealman clan go out for Christmas lunch every year, not MacDonalds, though.

I just got a surprise as it's the first year it's happened.
New venue for you to try then? :P McTurkeyBurger anyone?

Back on topic, I would like to vent my anger at the small phalanx of neatly-dressed pensioners on pushbikes who decided to formation-cycle through a crowded crossing here in Tokyo, ignoring the lights and any pedestrians in their path. Utter bumblewombles.

Japanese rule breakers  :goggleeyes:  The world is going to hell. :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on December 09, 2016, 03:59:50 PM
Quote from: Snowwolflair on December 09, 2016, 12:09:39 PMThe wold is going to hell. :D

Which one? We've got lots of wolds up here in Lincolnshire, and I need to avoid the big hole left when it's gone. :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 09, 2016, 04:05:42 PM
The woods have gone!? :o
Have you been chopping them down to make coffee stirrers which you use to make all sorts of model stuff? :telloff:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on December 09, 2016, 04:39:00 PM
Quote from: Snowwolflair on December 09, 2016, 12:09:39 PM
Quote from: railsquid on December 09, 2016, 12:05:58 PM
Quote from: Bealman on December 09, 2016, 05:22:37 AM
In retrospect, my Maccas open on Christmas Day post is probably a little hypocritical, as the Bealman clan go out for Christmas lunch every year, not MacDonalds, though.

I just got a surprise as it's the first year it's happened.
New venue for you to try then? :P McTurkeyBurger anyone?

Back on topic, I would like to vent my anger at the small phalanx of neatly-dressed pensioners on pushbikes who decided to formation-cycle through a crowded crossing here in Tokyo, ignoring the lights and any pedestrians in their path. Utter bumblewombles.

Japanese rule breakers  :goggleeyes:  The world is going to hell. :D
Indeed, as many as three times this year I've found small items of litter in our street. But I suspect people of a certain age and temperament behave however they want the world over...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 09, 2016, 09:43:29 PM
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/255-091216213713.jpeg)

Local bus stop  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on December 09, 2016, 09:52:51 PM
Quote from: Bealman on December 09, 2016, 09:43:29 PM
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/255-091216213713.jpeg)

Local bus stop  >:(

Your locals are obviously better behaved than the locals are back home in Yorkshire - the glass in your bus stop is still intact  :o. Should not complain though, the nearest bus stop to me is 5 miles away - and that is used once a week, yes, I said week !  :unimpressed:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on December 09, 2016, 09:55:51 PM
Very depressing... Shame the so and so's can't be caught and made to clean it up. Afraid many of our bus stops and streets look just the same.
>:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on December 10, 2016, 02:31:59 PM
Quote from: railsquid on December 09, 2016, 04:39:00 PM
Quote from: Snowwolflair on December 09, 2016, 12:09:39 PM
Quote from: railsquid on December 09, 2016, 12:05:58 PM
Quote from: Bealman on December 09, 2016, 05:22:37 AM
In retrospect, my Maccas open on Christmas Day post is probably a little hypocritical, as the Bealman clan go out for Christmas lunch every year, not MacDonalds, though.

I just got a surprise as it's the first year it's happened.
New venue for you to try then? :P McTurkeyBurger anyone?

Back on topic, I would like to vent my anger at the small phalanx of neatly-dressed pensioners on pushbikes who decided to formation-cycle through a crowded crossing here in Tokyo, ignoring the lights and any pedestrians in their path. Utter bumblewombles.

Japanese rule breakers  :goggleeyes:  The world is going to hell. :D
Indeed, as many as three times this year I've found small items of litter in our street. But I suspect people of a certain age and temperament behave however they want the world over...
So, I was at the local zoo today with the Squidlet (2nd birthday in sight) watching the penguins (Squidlet loves penguins) when a well-dressed snooty-looking young woman and her well-dressed young son (7or 8 I guessed) pushed in, and the son blatantly ignored a clearly-marked "entrance forbidden" sign in Japanese to get a better look at the penguins. Cue Squidlet pulling in that direction, which I put a swift stop to; at his "but that boy is there, why can't I?" expression I remarked loudly (in Japanese) "well obviously those people are illiterate".
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 22, 2016, 12:02:42 AM
The continuing saga of an Australian bus stop......

Last Wednesday my favourite stop was inhabited by a nice pair of shoes

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/255-201216034643.jpeg)

Thursday they were still there......

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/255-201216035239.jpeg)

But were now joined by a gaggle of shopping trolleys!!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/255-201216035619.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/46/255-201216035851.jpeg)

At least the bus is always on time....  :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mito on December 22, 2016, 12:17:37 AM
A trolley bus? :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 22, 2016, 12:29:52 AM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on December 22, 2016, 01:06:32 AM
You Asda laugh really.   Sorry  :-X

I had better say "Sorry" again - I don't suppose 'Asda', (supermarket),  have got down under - heck, they ain't even got into Ireland yet! Well, they have a presence in Northern Ireland.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 22, 2016, 01:53:11 AM
Thanks for that, David - I was wondering what it meant!!  :thumbsup: :beers:

George
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on December 22, 2016, 04:14:25 AM
Quote from: dannyboy on December 22, 2016, 01:06:32 AM
You Asda laugh really.   Sorry  :-X

I had better say "Sorry" again - I don't suppose 'Asda', (supermarket),  have got down under - heck, they ain't even got into Ireland yet! Well, they have a presence in Northern Ireland.
I can get a random assortment of Asda products in my local supermarket here in Tokyo, mainly because it and Asda are owned by Walmart.

Anyway good to see that MaccyD is reachable by public transport :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 22, 2016, 04:25:12 AM
Never mind Maccas.... the bowling club bar more importantly  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on December 22, 2016, 09:06:20 AM
I really must complain about the number of absolute bargains around at this time of year.

RETAILERS STOP IT, what are you trying to do? Get us to spend money.  :censored: :censored:

Next you will be telling us all it's CHRISTMAS ands a time for good will. Well you can take your good will and shove it where the sun does not shine...RHYL  :no:

I spend all year being a penny pinching miser, and what do you all do, you try to get me to spend money, well your not getting me....HA HA HA

Well apart from a possible Ivatt Mogul, and maybe another Landship pack, and possible an Inspectin Saloon...... :help: :help: :help:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TylerB on December 22, 2016, 09:44:39 AM
Grrr I feel I need to have a rant...

I have a good friend, who I like a lot and enjoy the company of, but unfortunately recently he's just been going from totally avoidable catastrophe to totally avoidable catastrophe... you can warn him and advise him and he'll smile and nod and agree, and then ignore your advice just go off and do the wrong thing again, and I'm getting to the point where I'm beginning to dread receiving messages and texts from him, because it's just so exhausting!

Anyway he doesn't read this forum so I can moan openly about him here...

Rant over  :sorrysign:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on December 22, 2016, 11:27:04 AM
Some folk are beyond help, PP but glad you're entering into the spirit of the season!

Merry Yule and a Good 2017 to all ranters.  :wave:

Dave G

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mito on December 23, 2016, 09:49:45 PM
Cut the carrots and parsnips into quarters lengthways. Put them in an oven proof dish, pour some oil (not the stuff you put in engines) over them, cover the dish with tin foil and 5 mins before taking them out brush some apricot jam over them. They are cooked when the fork doesn't bend when you try to stick it in them.
Why did the pigs need blankets, were they cold? :confused1:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on December 24, 2016, 01:34:34 PM
Italy doesn't have parsnips!!!
Or swede or a sausage that you would want to wrap in the unsmoked bacon that is also unavailable.

Turkey Pizza anyone ?

Merry Christmas to all..

Jerry
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on December 24, 2016, 02:27:26 PM
I notice that Italian 'pigs in blankets' recipes on the www seem to be variations on a traditional pastry crusted sausage roll, even some using chicken meat. Sacrilege.

Jerry, I found one note on the www from 2008 that might interest you:

QuoteFor those of you with parsnip withdrawal symptoms, I managed to convince friends at lunch here (Arezzo, Italy) on Sunday that they were eating roast parsnips, which they thought I had brought over from my recent trip to the UK. I found some large, purple sweet potatoes at my local ethnic shop, cut them into parsnip shapes and then roasted then in the normal way. They were delicious and are an excellent substitute.

Might be worth a try for next year, or maybe I could post you some parsnip seeds.

Have a great Christmas. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on December 25, 2016, 03:10:52 PM
Just finished Xmas lunch (very nice too) when the phone rings. Ah I think, another Xmas cheer call but, Wrong....
Message, prerecorded, 'what with the winter weather.... etc.' Trying to sell house insulation - another junk phone call!!!
Now forgive me if I'm wrong bot today is Sunday and, Oh yes its Xmas day!! So what planet do these morons live on?? So much for the telephone preference service - complete waste of time.
Happy Xmas everyone. :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Izzy on December 25, 2016, 05:41:03 PM
Have never found the TPS service to work, mainly because most calls seem to come from offshore call centres, which are not covered.

Thankfully most new BT home phones come with the 100% call blocker system which has proved the answer, and certainly saved the sanity of my very elderly in-laws who became bombarded by these type of nuisance calls - sometimes as much as 30 per hour.

I'd recommend  getting new BT phones with this feature to anyone. If you are BTcustomers you can get them direct from BT at 50% off shop price. Well we did anyway.

Izzy
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 25, 2016, 08:15:19 PM
I know it doesn't stop the phone ringing but caller ID helps avoid nuisance calls. If I don't recognise the number, if it says "International" or "Withheld" I just leave it to ring off and then check 1571 to see if there's a message. My memory doesn't allow me to know all numbers but as I've plumbed into the directory all my friends/rellies numbers (home and mobile), the phone recognises them for me.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on December 25, 2016, 08:23:24 PM
they dont bother me any more,think im on there blacklist after keeping the "microsoft virus deptment" on the line for nearly an hour and the "were ringing about your recent crash" for 45 minutes
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on December 25, 2016, 09:02:06 PM
Just returned from the grandchildren's home after an excellent Christmas Day bouncing babies on my knee and playing with 4 year old Sophie.

Happy to be safely home, especially as the last three miles of the journey were spent following a Ford Mondeo whose driver had evidenty had a great day getting totally sozzled!  He was all over the road and on one sweeping 90 degree right hander almost clipped the opposite kerb. The central white line was his guide as he enjoyed keeping it directly between his wheels most of the time, while his speed varied wildly and all road signs and oncoming vehicles were met with sudden braking as the prat tried to register what was happening in his drunken world.

Lord, save us from the morons who drive with a total disregard for the lives of others. Thankfully I survived the encounter and will see my grandchildren again, and I hope the ******* *********** ********** (translate as you see fit) enjoys the visit he is probably getting right now from our uniformed friends - if he made it home without causing an accident. ( Wonderful things, registration plates and telephones.)

And a Merry Christmas to him.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on December 28, 2016, 09:07:20 AM
I know its been mentioned before many times, but what is it with Farish and packaging?

All the rubbish from the landship pack has nearly filled next doors bin  :veryangry: :censored:

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on January 06, 2017, 04:38:05 PM
 :veryangry: :veryangry: :censored: :censored:A lousy Xmas for the grandkids and our son whilst The mum cleared off to spend a night or so with her longish timed boyfriend ?????????? :doh:
She is now back demanding our son clears out of their house and leaves her alone to enjoy herself etc etc
Poor kids havnt a clue as to whats going on and  Mark is dossing down at a friends house.
The house will have to be sold (obviously) and although its years sinse she worked she demands 50% of the results.
Feel like vwringing her  :censored: neck but I guess thats not the best idea  :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on January 06, 2017, 04:44:02 PM
What a load of  :censored:.
I hope things work out for you soon. :sorrysign:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 07, 2017, 06:08:16 PM
This might set the cat among the pigeons but.......................................

People who start sentences with 'So.....'

If I'd done that at school I'd have had the blackboard rubber hurled at me with unerring accuracy
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on January 07, 2017, 06:25:30 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on January 07, 2017, 06:08:16 PM
This might set the cat among the pigeons but.......................................

People who start sentences with 'So.....'


So, is that like, literally actually, know what I mean, like? :hmmm:


Like you I find this destruction and misuse of our fine English language so....... irritating, and sometimes feel the blackboard rubber of our school days should be upgraded to a brick.
Well, just sometimes.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jimbo on January 07, 2017, 08:20:11 PM
Quote from: daffy on January 07, 2017, 06:25:30 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on January 07, 2017, 06:08:16 PM
This might set the cat among the pigeons but.......................................

People who start sentences with 'So.....'


So, is that like, literally actually, know what I mean, like? :hmmm:


Like you I find this destruction and misuse of our fine English language so....... irritating, and sometimes feel the blackboard rubber of our school days should be upgraded to a brick.
Well, just sometimes.

This is one of my pet hates too! Perhaps i'm just getting old and grumpy but whenever someone starts with 'Like' I think to myself 'Like' WHAAAAT!?!? Amongst other things!  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on January 07, 2017, 11:38:28 PM
so
səʊ/
adverb
1.
to such a great extent.
"the words tumbled out so fast that I could barely hear them"
2.
to the same extent (used in comparisons).
"he isn't so bad as you'd think"
conjunction
1.
and for this reason; therefore.
"it was still painful so I went to see a specialist"
2.
with the aim that; in order that.
"they whisper to each other so that no one else can hear"


I don't see any definition there that denotes you could grammatically start a sentence with it ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on January 08, 2017, 12:46:15 AM
So what?  :D ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on January 08, 2017, 12:47:33 AM
So much moaning about some thing so unimportant is rather unnecessary! :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on January 08, 2017, 01:19:11 AM
Like superfluous things that aren't necessary and things happening at the same time simultaneously......
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on January 08, 2017, 02:34:11 AM
QuoteLike you I find this destruction and misuse of our fine English language
So the english language cant change and modify  like it has over hundreds,no thousands of years just because a few dont like it.if the bastardisation of english is such a problem why not use american english,after all its closer to the english used by will shakespear than wot we speak in england today
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on January 08, 2017, 03:02:51 AM
Language is a dynamic, constantly changing thing. No one thirty years ago would have ever used the words Google, Twitter, Instagram, etc. Would anyone in the 19th century have known the word "Biro" referred to a pen?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on January 08, 2017, 03:35:51 AM
Quote from: Bealman on January 08, 2017, 03:02:51 AM
Language is a dynamic, constantly changing thing.

That's as maybe and, like a lot of people, I have to accept that, but it does not mean I like it.  :)

Incidentally, I dislike it when people say "Going forward" - what is wrong with "In future"?  ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Steamie+ on January 08, 2017, 07:14:33 AM
Quote from: longbridge on March 30, 2011, 06:41:21 AM
I guess everyone dislikes certain things in life but for me its Banks and their high fees, Oil Companies ripping people off, Supermarkets making disgusting profits, Drug Companies charging the earth for what is life saving medication for some.

Nothing bugs me worse than manufacturers releasing new models of things like Digital Cameras and Computerised things more often than some people change their underpants, this continual plundering greed on peoples wallets and purses is sickening.

Last of all I hate the fact that here in Australia the gap between the haves and have nots had grown so wide, on one hand we have these stuck up Yuppies snubbing their noses at everyone and everything, on the other hand we have people barely surviving on their earnings and getting slugged by massive electricity bills and such.

Other than that I guess I have my health at the moment and to me that is the most important, the rest is just a fact of modern day living, would also be nice to see people become more tolerant to each other, its just as easy to say something nice to someone as it is to say something bad.

i have just started to read this thread ( got a long way to go ) and i totally agree with everything you have said.  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Steamie+ on January 08, 2017, 07:30:14 AM
Quote from: dannyboy on January 08, 2017, 03:35:51 AM
Quote from: Bealman on January 08, 2017, 03:02:51 AM
Language is a dynamic, constantly changing thing.

That's as maybe and, like a lot of people, I have to accept that, but it does not mean I like it.  :)

Incidentally, I dislike it when people say "Going forward" - what is wrong with "In future"?  ???

My bulling bosses say that all the time " Going forward " the FLM (First Line Manger) was just a driver and i was given the task of training all new drivers, he was and still is a lazy so and so. We were always asked to go and help him, well 2 of us mostly, because he was struggling with his delivery's.

Can't wait until i retire this year and a few home truths will be told.

I can't stand bullies in any shape or form. EX partners are one, they and the people they employ are out and out scavengers. The way they say " I am having this and i don't care what you think " is in my opinion is telling you to get stuffed.

I am really sorry for my little rant, i am not really a grumpy old man honest.     :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Yet_Another on January 08, 2017, 11:25:09 AM
Quote from: dannyboy on January 08, 2017, 03:35:51 AM

Incidentally, I dislike it when people say "Going forward" - what is wrong with "In future"?  ???
Well, "Going forward" implies 'I am doing this now, and will continue to do so' whereas "In future" implies 'manyana'. :D :sorrysign:

I know what you mean, though.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on January 08, 2017, 11:55:04 AM
Today is the youngest you are ever gonna be.  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on January 08, 2017, 12:05:08 PM
Quote from: steve836 on January 08, 2017, 12:47:33 AM
So much moaning about some thing so unimportant is rather unnecessary! :D
So... Looking at this latest topic across the piece, at the end of the day there appear to be a number of action items at this juncture and of course there is the elephant in the room!

Now with a finger in the wind, and not wishing to go on a fishing expedition, the flavour of the month may require a bit of kite flying and blue sky thinking for the foreseeable future.

As there is no such thing as a free lunch and wishing to future proof our game changing game plan we will probably need a heads up and helicopter view of things to come and must keep our powder dry, bearing in mind that the last man standing should look for a lights-on initiative.

The Luddites amongst us must watch out for the low hanging fruit and not micromanage the major players in this task whilst looking for the market facing, mission critical actions to move things forward.

We can only achieve organic growth by examining the organic growth of N gauge and look for faults out of the box. If we reach the pain point of this exercise we must parachute in someone of the right pay grade who can peel the onion and plug the dyke after a pulse check in real time.

Without reinventing the wheel a resource intensive game plan is required for rightsizing the formerly rubber stamped methods whilst avoiding a shotgun approach and achieving a sweetheart deal.

We have to avoid those with Teflon shoulders and think the unthinkable without throwing the rattle out of the pram.

Be wary of the known knowns, known unknowns and unknown unknowns whilst transitioning the value added ideas and protecting the vanilla zombie projects.

Now lets talk turkey – if anyone knows what I just said then please let me know.

Wunce I cudn't spel Manigmunt Conculltent  - now I are wun.


:beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on January 08, 2017, 12:13:51 PM
Wibble


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on January 08, 2017, 12:24:45 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on January 08, 2017, 12:13:51 PM
Wibble


Paul
Paul.. My Management consultants' dictionary says 'wibble' means 'to speak or write in a vague or wordy manner.'

Surely you can't mean that!!
:no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on January 08, 2017, 12:28:14 PM
Your dictionary is wrong I'm afraid, "wibble" means you've put your underpants on your head, stuck two pencils up your nose, and are therefore too mad to remain on active service ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on January 08, 2017, 12:30:02 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on January 08, 2017, 12:28:14 PM
Your dictionary is wrong I'm afraid, "wibble" means you've put your underpants on your head, stuck two pencils up your nose, and are therefore too mad to remain on active service ;)


Paul
Oh that's ok then!!   :hmmm: :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on January 08, 2017, 12:34:51 PM
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/0d41849b987f69a850df3ecbbb7a361c76f074ce.jpg)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jimbo on January 08, 2017, 12:57:49 PM
I thought this was supposed to be an angry thread!? I'm wetting myself 'ere!!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on January 08, 2017, 01:00:52 PM
Quote from: Jimbo on January 08, 2017, 12:57:49 PM
I thought this was supposed to be an angry thread!? I'm wetting myself 'ere!!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Sorry Jimbo - I'll go back to angry mode immediately.

Ohhhh I am sooo angry now!!  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 08, 2017, 02:32:02 PM
@austinbob (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2403)
Having read your wonderful (and oh so understandable) post how on earth could you not have shoehorned in 'running it up the flagpole' somehow ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on January 08, 2017, 03:27:23 PM
@austinbob (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2403)
Brilliant, just brilliant. :thumbsup: Made me laugh out loud, which as my wife will testify, is a rare thing.


Now, if only the light at the end of the tunnel would come back on...... ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on January 08, 2017, 03:51:47 PM
Quote from: austinbob on January 08, 2017, 12:05:08 PM
Quote from: steve836 on January 08, 2017, 12:47:33 AM
So much moaning about some thing so unimportant is rather unnecessary! :D
So... Looking at this latest topic across the piece, at the end of the day there appear to be a number of action items at this juncture and of course there is the elephant in the room!

Now with a finger in the wind, and not wishing to go on a fishing expedition, the flavour of the month may require a bit of kite flying and blue sky thinking for the foreseeable future.

As there is no such thing as a free lunch and wishing to future proof our game changing game plan we will probably need a heads up and helicopter view of things to come and must keep our powder dry, bearing in mind that the last man standing should look for a lights-on initiative.

The Luddites amongst us must watch out for the low hanging fruit and not micromanage the major players in this task whilst looking for the market facing, mission critical actions to move things forward.

We can only achieve organic growth by examining the organic growth of N gauge and look for faults out of the box. If we reach the pain point of this exercise we must parachute in someone of the right pay grade who can peel the onion and plug the dyke after a pulse check in real time.

Without reinventing the wheel a resource intensive game plan is required for rightsizing the formerly rubber stamped methods whilst avoiding a shotgun approach and achieving a sweetheart deal.

We have to avoid those with Teflon shoulders and think the unthinkable without throwing the rattle out of the pram.

Be wary of the known knowns, known unknowns and unknown unknowns whilst transitioning the value added ideas and protecting the vanilla zombie projects.

Now lets talk turkey – if anyone knows what I just said then please let me know.

Wunce I cudn't spel Manigmunt Conculltent  - now I are wun.


:beers:
I tried thinking outside the box once but then I started getting complaints from some fellow called Schroedinger that I wasn't feeding his cat properly.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jimbo on January 08, 2017, 04:00:47 PM
Quote from: daffy on January 08, 2017, 03:27:23 PM
@austinbob (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2403)
Brilliant, just brilliant. :thumbsup: Made me laugh out loud, which as my wife will testify, is a rare thing.


Now, if only the light at the end of the tunnel would come back on...... ;)

I thought I saw a light at the end of the tunnel.....but it was just someone with a torch bringing me more work!  :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ian Bowden on January 08, 2017, 11:09:34 PM
Quote from: austinbob on January 08, 2017, 12:05:08 PM
Quote from: steve836 on January 08, 2017, 12:47:33 AM
So much moaning about some thing so unimportant is rather unnecessary! :D
So... Looking at this latest topic across the piece, at the end of the day there appear to be a number of action items at this juncture and of course there is the elephant in the room!

Now with a finger in the wind, and not wishing to go on a fishing expedition, the flavour of the month may require a bit of kite flying and blue sky thinking for the foreseeable future.

As there is no such thing as a free lunch and wishing to future proof our game changing game plan we will probably need a heads up and helicopter view of things to come and must keep our powder dry, bearing in mind that the last man standing should look for a lights-on initiative.

The Luddites amongst us must watch out for the low hanging fruit and not micromanage the major players in this task whilst looking for the market facing, mission critical actions to move things forward.

We can only achieve organic growth by examining the organic growth of N gauge and look for faults out of the box. If we reach the pain point of this exercise we must parachute in someone of the right pay grade who can peel the onion and plug the dyke after a pulse check in real time.

Without reinventing the wheel a resource intensive game plan is required for rightsizing the formerly rubber stamped methods whilst avoiding a shotgun approach and achieving a sweetheart deal.

We have to avoid those with Teflon shoulders and think the unthinkable without throwing the rattle out of the pram.

Be wary of the known knowns, known unknowns and unknown unknowns whilst transitioning the value added ideas and protecting the vanilla zombie projects.

Now lets talk turkey – if anyone knows what I just said then please let me know.

Wunce I cudn't spel Manigmunt Conculltent  - now I are wun.


:beers:
In the best tradition of Sir Humphrey Appleby. 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on January 09, 2017, 06:35:38 AM
Quote from: Ian Bowden on January 08, 2017, 11:09:34 PM
Quote from: austinbob on January 08, 2017, 12:05:08 PM
Quote from: steve836 on January 08, 2017, 12:47:33 AM
So much moaning about some thing so unimportant is rather unnecessary! :D
So... Looking at this latest topic across the piece, at the end of the day there appear to be a number of action items at this juncture and of course there is the elephant in the room!

Now with a finger in the wind, and not wishing to go on a fishing expedition, the flavour of the month may require a bit of kite flying and blue sky thinking for the foreseeable future.

As there is no such thing as a free lunch and wishing to future proof our game changing game plan we will probably need a heads up and helicopter view of things to come and must keep our powder dry, bearing in mind that the last man standing should look for a lights-on initiative.

The Luddites amongst us must watch out for the low hanging fruit and not micromanage the major players in this task whilst looking for the market facing, mission critical actions to move things forward.

We can only achieve organic growth by examining the organic growth of N gauge and look for faults out of the box. If we reach the pain point of this exercise we must parachute in someone of the right pay grade who can peel the onion and plug the dyke after a pulse check in real time.

Without reinventing the wheel a resource intensive game plan is required for rightsizing the formerly rubber stamped methods whilst avoiding a shotgun approach and achieving a sweetheart deal.

We have to avoid those with Teflon shoulders and think the unthinkable without throwing the rattle out of the pram.

Be wary of the known knowns, known unknowns and unknown unknowns whilst transitioning the value added ideas and protecting the vanilla zombie projects.

Now lets talk turkey – if anyone knows what I just said then please let me know.

Wunce I cudn't spel Manigmunt Conculltent  - now I are wun.


:beers:
In the best tradition of Sir Humphrey Appleby.

All that is now required is some joined-up thinking rather than knee-jerk reactions.  :-X

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Steamie+ on January 09, 2017, 06:47:38 AM
Quote from: austinbob on January 08, 2017, 12:05:08 PM
Quote from: steve836 on January 08, 2017, 12:47:33 AM
So much moaning about some thing so unimportant is rather unnecessary! :D
So... Looking at this latest topic across the piece, at the end of the day there appear to be a number of action items at this juncture and of course there is the elephant in the room!

Now with a finger in the wind, and not wishing to go on a fishing expedition, the flavour of the month may require a bit of kite flying and blue sky thinking for the foreseeable future.

As there is no such thing as a free lunch and wishing to future proof our game changing game plan we will probably need a heads up and helicopter view of things to come and must keep our powder dry, bearing in mind that the last man standing should look for a lights-on initiative.

The Luddites amongst us must watch out for the low hanging fruit and not micromanage the major players in this task whilst looking for the market facing, mission critical actions to move things forward.

We can only achieve organic growth by examining the organic growth of N gauge and look for faults out of the box. If we reach the pain point of this exercise we must parachute in someone of the right pay grade who can peel the onion and plug the dyke after a pulse check in real time.

Without reinventing the wheel a resource intensive game plan is required for rightsizing the formerly rubber stamped methods whilst avoiding a shotgun approach and achieving a sweetheart deal.

We have to avoid those with Teflon shoulders and think the unthinkable without throwing the rattle out of the pram.

Be wary of the known knowns, known unknowns and unknown unknowns whilst transitioning the value added ideas and protecting the vanilla zombie projects.

Now lets talk turkey – if anyone knows what I just said then please let me know.

Wunce I cudn't spel Manigmunt Conculltent  - now I are wun.


:beers:

Haven't got a clue, has is most of the people who say these things.       :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: longbow on January 09, 2017, 08:06:42 AM
New Farish Thompson coaches - GBP38 at Hattons. So about 50% more than current tooling. What the...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jimbo on January 09, 2017, 02:23:52 PM
Quote from: longbow on January 09, 2017, 08:06:42 AM
New Farish Thompson coaches - GBP38 at Hattons. So about 50% more than current tooling. What the...

Jeez!!  :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 09, 2017, 03:37:58 PM
I reckon Hattons have taken a wild flier at this. Rails don't list the Thompsons and the Farish website says TBA. Assuming the 'normal 15%' reduction allowable it would make full retail £44.70.
Mind you, looking at the prices of some of their bogie wagons.................................... :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on January 09, 2017, 06:50:56 PM
Those prices are going through the roof as a pensioner there is no way I could afford a rake of coaches at those prices and as for Locos it will take all my families Christmas and Birthday money and some more to buy one loco so I will have to keep my old stock running and rely on Union Mills to bring out some more GWR Locos at sensible value for money prices and then realy need one of the new offerings and beg even more money to buy it .
Would it really improve the quality and reduce prices if things were made in the UK , now that the Chineese are asking for more money.
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mito on January 09, 2017, 08:56:29 PM
I too am a pensioner. I shall make do with what I have and enjoy them. Those that have disposable income for this hobby, fine but I really do think that the manufactures are doing themselves no favours with their pricing. Perhaps it's time to think about a change in my hobby?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on January 09, 2017, 09:20:25 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on January 08, 2017, 02:32:02 PM
@austinbob (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2403)
Having read your wonderful (and oh so understandable) post how on earth could you not have shoehorned in 'running it up the flagpole' somehow ;)

I saw on an email this morning one of the most ridiculous examples of 'modern' speech. One of the lads who works with me received the email from a lady in the main offices, regarding some new starters and she was on about signing them into the system and concluded with "and I will touch base with you later".   ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on January 09, 2017, 09:28:08 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on January 09, 2017, 09:20:25 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on January 08, 2017, 02:32:02 PM
@austinbob (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2403)
Having read your wonderful (and oh so understandable) post how on earth could you not have shoehorned in 'running it up the flagpole' somehow ;)

I saw on an email this morning one of the most ridiculous examples of 'modern' speech. One of the lads who works with me received the email from a lady in the main offices, regarding some new starters and she was on about signing them into the system and concluded with "and I will touch base with you later".   ???

Are you sure she was referring to the starters? ;) :o :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on January 09, 2017, 09:29:52 PM
Quote from: Bob Tidbury on January 09, 2017, 06:50:56 PM
Would it really improve the quality and reduce prices if things were made in the UK , now that the Chinese are asking for more money.

Don't know regarding model trains Bob, but the company I work for has just finished shifting all its production in-house and told the Chinese manufacturing company to get lost. May not be cheaper just yet, but apparently the increase in quality and the better control over it is worth the minimal extra it's costing :thumbsup:


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: keithfre on January 09, 2017, 09:50:35 PM
Quote from: Bob Tidbury on January 09, 2017, 06:50:56 PM
Would it really improve the quality and reduce prices if things were made in the UK , now that the Chineese are asking for more money.
Trouble is, Bob, Bachmann is a Chinese company, so for them it'd be outsourcing.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on January 10, 2017, 06:53:44 AM
Quote from: daffy on January 08, 2017, 03:27:23 PM
@austinbob (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2403)
Brilliant, just brilliant. :thumbsup: Made me laugh out loud, which as my wife will testify, is a rare thing.


Now, if only the light at the end of the tunnel would come back on...... ;)

I thought I could see the light at the end of the tunnel but it was only some so-and so with a torch bringing more work
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on January 10, 2017, 07:54:03 AM
Re 2017 prices; all I would say is thank goodness I have more than enough rolling stock to run on my current and even an expanded layout.

Starting from scratch right now will be a particularly expensive time but I remember a Minitrix Britannia was an arm and a leg 35/40 years ago when I had my first layout.

Do hope that the current round of price increases doesn't put off too many folk from joining us in a great hobby.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on January 10, 2017, 09:24:05 AM
To be honest the detail of N Gauge stock has improved dramatically since I bought my first brand new  loco a Farish pannier tank it cost £3-7s-6d at full RRP. But the durability has gone down .will the modern stock still be running in twenty or thirty years time I doubt it ,I have had quite a few modern stock fail after only a short period of running,the worst offender was a Q1 which managed one and a half laps running in on low speed before giving up, several diesels with lights failing the worst was a Chiltern class 67 which was replaced three times and then even the forth one ended up with lights at one end only.So I think some of us have a right to be angry after paying out a lot of hard earned cash.
But good luck to those who DONT HAVE PROBLEMS I wish I was one of them.
Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Steamie+ on January 10, 2017, 10:39:45 AM
I have no real experience on models failing, but i do agree the price of the models are really expensive and far out of reach of most of us,but i people carry on paying the prices that they are asking the companies will still charge to much for them. Our hobby needs both ( Customer and Maker ) to carry on with it and make it even better, but unless something is done to change it i.e. get back to making most if not all of it in the UK will we ever see them cheaper.    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on January 12, 2017, 08:59:24 AM
I'm absolutely fed up with the music that is played over what seems to be nearly all the dialoge in TV programs,especially when one note only is repeatedly played on a clonky piano.
I don't mind the music so much,it's the way it's played over the dialogue and not in the background.

Even the news headlines have to have music played over the newsreader.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on January 12, 2017, 09:12:07 AM
I totally agree with you Allan. :thumbsup:  so called 'mood music' certainly does its job, as it makes me VERY moody! :veryangry:

I feel program makers and broadcasters do a particular great disservice to those with hearing difficulties, as well as to those with good hearing like me.

I turn off if it's too intrusive.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jimbo on January 12, 2017, 09:20:25 AM
I certainly agree with both the above about tv, another thing is, especially on documentaries, is that they will insist on repeating what we've already seen (re-cap) before the ad break then when it finally moves on with the subject it's almost time for more adverts!!  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on January 12, 2017, 09:36:28 AM
Quote from: Jimbo on January 12, 2017, 09:20:25 AM
I certainly agree with both the above about tv, another thing is, especially on documentaries, is that they will insist on repeating what we've already seen (re-cap) before the ad break then when it finally moves on with the subject it's almost time for more adverts!!  :veryangry:

The "Music" has forced Mrs "H" to view every programme with sub-titles :veryangry:

Don't ever go down the "Kodi" road. It is a brilliant for us Ex pats deprived of UK TV as you can watch almost any programme, HOWEVER if you pause ,for phone calls get a drink or wood for the fire a really "helpful" programme description is displayed outlining the plot including twists etc that you may not have seen yet!!!  Luckily Mrs "H" has difficulty reading small text.
Rant over...

Jerry
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 12, 2017, 10:47:04 AM
Oh dear. You've got me started too.
Does anyone else agree with my opinion  a sound engineer just doesn't exist any more? Back in the days of British Transport Films pride was taken in cinematography and sound, but now I find myself constantly adjusting sound levels. I've known for years American films need a higher volume but I find I have to turn down music, turn up speech and generally adjust the TV volume every time I change channel. I firmly believe there are no sound engineers any more, especially as many programmes are not actually made by the TV companies but bought in at exorbitant cost.
As far as most comedy shows go, if someone held up a board saying "Cheer" I'd hold one up saying "Why?". I'm sure they're not watching the same show I am :no:
Commercial programmes are now an hour of adverts interrupted by bits of e.g. Midsomer Murders.
'Nuff said :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on January 12, 2017, 10:51:55 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on January 12, 2017, 10:47:04 AM
Oh dear. You've got me started too.
Does anyone else agree with my opinion  a sound engineer just doesn't exist any more? Back in the days of British Transport Films pride was taken in cinematography and sound, but now I find myself constantly adjusting sound levels. I've known for years American films need a higher volume but I find I have to turn down music, turn up speech and generally adjust the TV volume every time I change channel. I firmly believe there are no sound engineers any more, especially as many programmes are not actually made by the TV companies but bought in at exorbitant cost.
As far as most comedy shows go, if someone held up a board saying "Cheer" I'd hold one up saying "Why?". I'm sure they're not watching the same show I am :no:
Commercial programmes are now an hour of adverts interrupted by bits of e.g. Midsomer Murders.
'Nuff said :veryangry:

Oooooooooh grumpy today we are 😱
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 12, 2017, 10:54:22 AM
Quote from: scotsoft on January 12, 2017, 10:51:55 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on January 12, 2017, 10:47:04 AM
Oh dear. You've got me started too.
Does anyone else agree with my opinion  a sound engineer just doesn't exist any more? Back in the days of British Transport Films pride was taken in cinematography and sound, but now I find myself constantly adjusting sound levels. I've known for years American films need a higher volume but I find I have to turn down music, turn up speech and generally adjust the TV volume every time I change channel. I firmly believe there are no sound engineers any more, especially as many programmes are not actually made by the TV companies but bought in at exorbitant cost.
As far as most comedy shows go, if someone held up a board saying "Cheer" I'd hold one up saying "Why?". I'm sure they're not watching the same show I am :no:
Commercial programmes are now an hour of adverts interrupted by bits of e.g. Midsomer Murders.
'Nuff said :veryangry:

Oooooooooh grumpy today we are 😱

This is the Angry Thread, dear boy. What would be the point of posting summat happy in here? :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on January 12, 2017, 11:06:59 AM
Ah!! but posting something happy in the Angry thread might make someone angry NN.
:hmmm:
And then they can post their anger in the angry thread... :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on January 12, 2017, 11:14:36 AM
Oh heck!  :worried:

Does that mean there's going to be a Really Furious thread soon? 

Can't find my coat so I'm going back under the layout.

Dave G

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on January 12, 2017, 11:16:18 AM
Quote from: daveg on January 12, 2017, 11:14:36 AM
Oh heck!  :worried:

Does that mean there's going to be a Really Furious thread soon? 

Can't find my coat so I'm going back under the layout.

Dave G

No that's the Dapol quality control thread  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on January 12, 2017, 11:32:50 AM
Quote from: scotsoft on January 12, 2017, 10:51:55 AM


Oooooooooh grumpy today we are 😱

Speak up can you the adverts are on!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on January 12, 2017, 11:35:58 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on January 12, 2017, 10:47:04 AM
Oh dear. You've got me started too.
Does anyone else agree with my opinion  a sound engineer just doesn't exist any more? Back in the days of British Transport Films pride was taken in cinematography and sound, but now I find myself constantly adjusting sound levels. I've known for years American films need a higher volume but I find I have to turn down music, turn up speech and generally adjust the TV volume every time I change channel. I firmly believe there are no sound engineers any more, especially as many programmes are not actually made by the TV companies but bought in at exorbitant cost.
As far as most comedy shows go, if someone held up a board saying "Cheer" I'd hold one up saying "Why?". I'm sure they're not watching the same show I am :no:
Commercial programmes are now an hour of adverts interrupted by bits of e.g. Midsomer Murders.
'Nuff said :veryangry:

You can always tell when the adverts come on - THEY ARE ALWAYS LOUDER THAN THE PROGRAMME!, or so it seems.  And what is it these days with the voices they use? Is there some special school the actors go to where they learn to talk to us as if we are all stupid? I blame Cilit Bang.

Edit: seems I'm not alone @Jerry Howlett (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=276)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jimbo on January 12, 2017, 11:39:13 AM
Quote from: daffy on January 12, 2017, 11:35:58 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on January 12, 2017, 10:47:04 AM
Oh dear. You've got me started too.
Does anyone else agree with my opinion  a sound engineer just doesn't exist any more? Back in the days of British Transport Films pride was taken in cinematography and sound, but now I find myself constantly adjusting sound levels. I've known for years American films need a higher volume but I find I have to turn down music, turn up speech and generally adjust the TV volume every time I change channel. I firmly believe there are no sound engineers any more, especially as many programmes are not actually made by the TV companies but bought in at exorbitant cost.
As far as most comedy shows go, if someone held up a board saying "Cheer" I'd hold one up saying "Why?". I'm sure they're not watching the same show I am :no:
Commercial programmes are now an hour of adverts interrupted by bits of e.g. Midsomer Murders.
'Nuff said :veryangry:

You can always tell when the adverts come on - THEY ARE ALWAYS LOUDER THAN THE PROGRAMME!, or so it seems.  And what is it these days with the voices they use? Is there some special school the actors go to where they learn to talk to us as if we are all stupid? I blame Cilit Bang.

Edit: seems I'm not alone @Jerry Howlett (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=276)

Agree with both of you!!  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jimbo on January 12, 2017, 11:41:31 AM
 
Quote from: Snowwolflair on January 12, 2017, 11:16:18 AM
Quote from: daveg on January 12, 2017, 11:14:36 AM
Oh heck!  :worried:

Does that mean there's going to be a Really Furious thread soon? 

Can't find my coat so I'm going back under the layout.

Dave G

No that's the Dapol quality control thread  :D

  :laughabovepost: oops! Sorry! Angry thread..... :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mito on January 12, 2017, 09:15:52 PM
Quote from: austinbob on January 12, 2017, 11:06:59 AM
Ah!! but posting something happy in the Angry thread might make someone angry NN.
:hmmm:
And then they can post their anger in the angry thread... :no:

And then they could post on the Happy thread that they'd posted in the Angry thread and felt much better now and were back on the rails again. :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on January 12, 2017, 09:39:09 PM
And then.........
:)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on January 12, 2017, 09:41:57 PM
Quote from: austinbob on January 12, 2017, 09:39:09 PM
And then.........
:)

Then we create an EMO thread for those modeling Southern Trains. :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on January 12, 2017, 10:49:33 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on January 12, 2017, 08:59:24 AM
I'm absolutely fed up with the music that is played over what seems to be nearly all the dialoge in TV programs

My problem is that, whilst not going deaf as such, I have difficulty hearing some frequencies. Of course, human speech is in those frequencies whilst TV music isn't. We have a, (happy), battle in our house whereby SWMBO wants the TV volume down and I want it up! I used to go to hospital every year for tests and on the last occasion the Doctor says, "We could get you a hearing aid", to which I replied, "Would that not just amplify all frequencies?" and he said, "Yes". I eventually convinced him that that was not a solution  :doh: I have not been since!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on January 12, 2017, 11:04:21 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on January 12, 2017, 10:49:33 PM
Quote from: Bikeracer on January 12, 2017, 08:59:24 AM
I'm absolutely fed up with the music that is played over what seems to be nearly all the dialoge in TV programs

My problem is that, whilst not going deaf as such, I have difficulty hearing some frequencies. Of course, human speech is in those frequencies whilst TV music isn't. We have a, (happy), battle in our house whereby SWMBO wants the TV volume down and I want it up! I used to go to hospital every year for tests and on the last occasion the Doctor says, "We could get you a hearing aid", to which I replied, "Would that not just amplify all frequencies?" and he said, "Yes". I eventually convinced him that that was not a solution  :doh: I have not been since!

Just ensure you don't end up like my late father-in-law: after determining that all hearing aids were useless, in his opinion (though spending thousands to prove it), he found the solution to listening to his favourite TV programs, while helping the folks in the next street to listen to them as well!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on January 12, 2017, 11:06:11 PM
Surely, modern, digital hearing aids can be programmed to only amplify particular frequency ranges, exactly as needed - the NHS can be reluctant to pay for decent ones though.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on January 12, 2017, 11:15:45 PM
daffy - that is not a problem when I am in the house on my own as my nearest neighbour is about 1 mile away  :thumbsup:

stevewalker - that is a problem as I live in Ireland and if you don't have what is called a 'Medical Card', (which I don't as I earn too much  :'(), or you have private health insurance, (which I don't as I do not earn enough to be able to afford it  :'(), you pay for your own medical bills  :'(.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on January 13, 2017, 04:04:55 AM
Quote from: scotsoft on January 12, 2017, 10:51:55 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on January 12, 2017, 10:47:04 AM


Oooooooooh grumpy today we are 😱

Yes   Thats what this thread's for! :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on January 13, 2017, 03:48:36 PM
Just been for a walk through the village where I live here on the windswept Tundra of Lincolnshire.

What the  :censored: is it with these people morons who persist in throwing their rubbish out of car windows to sully this green and pleasant land? :veryangry:

In the few hundred yards beween my village boundary and a shared village hall with the next village I picked up three cans, one bottle, one cigarette packet, one sandwich wrapper and a paper cup or two. I had to ignore other items as my hands were full. :veryangry:

I walked that route less than a week ago and cleared almost the same amount of rubbish from the verges.

When I was a lad - here goes the old fool, prattling on again about the 'good old days' - there were prominent campaigns to 'Keep Britain Tidy!' that had a positive effect, but no one seems to care now and there are no reminders.

Bit like the 'Wear something bright at night!' campaign that came to mind yesterday when I nearly didn't see the idiot in black darting across the road in front of me. But that's another rant. :veryangry:

Good old days? In some respects, too right! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 13, 2017, 03:58:10 PM
Quote from: daffy on January 13, 2017, 03:48:36 PM
Just been for a walk through the village where I live here on the windswept Tundra of Lincolnshire.

What the  :censored: is it with these people morons who persist in throwing their rubbish out of car windows to sully this green and pleasant land? :veryangry:

In the few hundred yards beween my village boundary and a shared village hall with the next village I picked up three cans, one bottle, one cigarette packet, one sandwich wrapper and a paper cup or two. I had to ignore other items. Is my hands were full. :veryangry:

I walked that route less than a week ago and cleared almost the same amount of rubbish from the verges.

When I was a lad - here goes the old fool, prattling in again about the 'good old days' - there were prominent campaigns to 'Keep Britain Tidy!' that had a positive effect, but no one seems to care now and there are no reminders.

Bit like the 'Wear something bright at night!' campaign that came to mind yesterday when I nearly didn't see the idiot in black darting across the road in front of me. But that's another rant. :veryangry:

Good old days? In some respects, too right! :thumbsup:

Good on you for picking up some litter.

Littering is the most moronic lazy act and it winds me up also.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on January 13, 2017, 04:17:55 PM
QuoteDoes anyone else agree with my opinion  a sound engineer just doesn't exist any more
nope they certainly exist ,its part of my job description,but them  again i do live music,very rarely do they let me in a tv studio,twice in the last 5 years i think.Anyway most modern telly should have a setting that "flattens "out the volume.
QuoteWhat the  :censored: is it with these people morons who persist in throwing their rubbish out of car windows to sully this green and pleasant land?
this should make you happy then,even if they are  quietly changing the laws on proof of guilt
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/litter-lout-drivers-face-60-9586294 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/litter-lout-drivers-face-60-9586294)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on January 13, 2017, 05:16:06 PM
Thanks for the link @themadhippy (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4863) .  :thumbsup: Littering Has long been an offence - I remember the commonplace '£5 penalty' notices of my distant youth - but sadly like so many laws that are casually broken these days, the manpower/finance to police them (in all meanings of the word) is not there .

It will be interesting to see just how many are fined, how many actually pay up, and what effect it has on the mentality of the apparently terminally afflicted litter-louts.

Full legislation here:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2005/16/part/3/crossheading/offence-of-dropping-litter (http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2005/16/part/3/crossheading/offence-of-dropping-litter)

Sadly as is typified by cinema auditoria when the film ends, and when the fans leave festival sites, casually leaving things for someone else to pick up - a good definition of littering IMHO - is endemic. See these photos post-Reading Festival as a typical example:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3769095/Don-t-worry-clear-Thousands-leave-tents-Reading-Festival.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3769095/Don-t-worry-clear-Thousands-leave-tents-Reading-Festival.html)

Of course, finding someone who ever admits to littering in any form is very unlikely. Seems litterers are always 'someone else'.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 13, 2017, 08:16:20 PM
Just been watching the  :censored: idiots on the east coast getting themselves + pets soaked by 'playing' in the seas breaking over the sea walls. Quite frankly I don't give a damn if they get swept out to sea (apart from their pets) but they just don't seem to realise they put in danger the very people they rely on to rescue them :veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: port perran on January 13, 2017, 08:20:02 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on January 13, 2017, 08:16:20 PM
Just been watching the  :censored: idiots on the east coast getting themselves + pets soaked by 'playing' in the seas breaking over the sea walls. Quite frankly I don't give a damn if they get swept out to sea (apart from their pets) but they just don't seem to realise they put in danger the very people they rely on to rescue them :veryangry: :veryangry:
Happens several times each year down here sometimes with an unhappy ending.
Its usually visitors down here who have no idea how dangerous our seas can be.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ian Bowden on January 13, 2017, 10:03:39 PM
Quote from: themadhippy on January 13, 2017, 04:17:55 PM
QuoteDoes anyone else agree with my opinion  a sound engineer just doesn't exist any more
nope they certainly exist ,its part of my job description,but them  again i do live music,very rarely do they let me in a tv studio,twice in the last 5 years i think.Anyway most modern telly should have a setting that "flattens "out the volume.
QuoteWhat the  :censored: is it with these people morons who persist in throwing their rubbish out of car windows to sully this green and pleasant land?
this should make you happy then,even if they are  quietly changing the laws on proof of guilt
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/litter-lout-drivers-face-60-9586294 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/litter-lout-drivers-face-60-9586294)
With reggard to litter. Outside the theatre I work in there is a bench where people sit and eat their sandwiches leaving the wrappers and empty bottles strewn about. I don't blame them for that, as the council in its wisdom has removed the waste bin that has been there for many years to save the cost of someone emptying it. Instead we have to clear it up to keep the area looking nice for customers. Complaints only result in being passed from one department to another while my blood pressure tablets are being stressed.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on January 13, 2017, 11:03:05 PM
I am sorry Ian, but I just can't reconcile myself to

Quotepeople sit and eat their sandwiches leaving the wrappers and empty bottles strewn about. I don't blame them for that.
@Ian Bowden (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4537)  (my italics)

It is the people who do this who are entirely to blame. Personal responsibility for any waste we create is surely a prime requirement for membership of a properly civilised society. Just because the powers that be do not provide receptacles for that waste does not mean we can abdicate that responsibility.

okay, rant over, and so to bed!


Edit: apologies to the Mods if this sounds in any way political, which is not my intent. I just hate littering.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on January 13, 2017, 11:05:08 PM
Totally agree, if there's no bin handy then take your rubbish with you until you find one!


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GeeBee on January 13, 2017, 11:08:55 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on January 13, 2017, 11:05:08 PM
Totally agree, if there's no bin handy then take your rubbish with you until you find one!


Paul

Or take it home where it can be disposed of properly
8)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on January 13, 2017, 11:09:23 PM
Quoteas the council in its wisdom has removed the waste bin that has been there for many years to save the cost of someone emptying it.
No doubt the same council wisdom  that reduces  bin collections ,increase the cost of collection large/bulky domestic items and close local tips, then wonder why fly tipping is  increasing
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on January 14, 2017, 02:38:34 AM
We have an anti-littering campaign here at the moment that says "DON'T BE A :censored: (changed by forum)"   ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 14, 2017, 01:28:07 PM
Calling anyone who works for the Pensions people please :help:
I have been to the www.gov.uk/check-state-pension (http://www.gov.uk/check-state-pension) website where I am informed I have 44 full years contributions and my pension come 1.10.2018 will be £145.55 per week. However, it also informs me that as I won't have paid full contributions up to 1.10.2018 my pension will, in fact, be £136.66.
Now - all websites I have checked show I need only 35 years of contributions to obtain a full state pension. In fact, it was on this basis I took early retirement at 60 years of age.
Also the same website informed me that, if I reach full pension age after 6.4.2016, then the full state pension is £155.65.
Not only am I confused but it seems the governments own employees and websites cannot agree. :censored:
Can anyone shed any light on this for me please?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on January 14, 2017, 05:53:50 PM
Quote from: GeeBee on January 13, 2017, 11:08:55 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on January 13, 2017, 11:05:08 PM
Totally agree, if there's no bin handy then take your rubbish with you until you find one!


Paul

Or take it home where it can be disposed of properly
8)

I am normally very good at making sure my rubbish is properly disposed of. I have however left litter as a silent protest.

I used (many years ago) to be a student in Manchester and caught the train from Oxford Road to Flixton each afternoon. Due to the timing of my finish and that of the train, I was usually sitting on the train in Oxford Road station for at least 1/2 an hour before it left, so usually read a book, drank a can of pop and ate something in the warm. That was fine for a year or so and I always disposed of my rubbish in the bin at Flixton station. Then, against local wishes, the station building on one side was demolished and replaced with a plastic bus shelter - removing the station canopy and leaving passengers with a shelter from the rain that was both too small for the numbers and sloped and sealed to the ground so the interior was inches deep in water. At the same time the main building on the other platform was fenced off , leaving no access to the smaller canopy there and no access to the bin. Having complained about the lack of access to the bin and getting no response, I started leaving my rubbish on the train in protest.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on January 14, 2017, 08:22:55 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on January 14, 2017, 01:28:07 PM
Calling anyone who works for the Pensions people please :help:
I have been to the www.gov.uk/check-state-pension (http://www.gov.uk/check-state-pension) website where I am informed I have 44 full years contributions and my pension come 1.10.2018 will be £145.55 per week. However, it also informs me that as I won't have paid full contributions up to 1.10.2018 my pension will, in fact, be £136.66.
Now - all websites I have checked show I need only 35 years of contributions to obtain a full state pension. In fact, it was on this basis I took early retirement at 60 years of age.
Also the same website informed me that, if I reach full pension age after 6.4.2016, then the full state pension is £155.65.
Not only am I confused but it seems the governments own employees and websites cannot agree. :censored:
Can anyone shed any light on this for me please?
I get £147 per week, which is a full pension for someone born in 1951. I was contracted out for most of the time as I was in a works pension. However, you can ask for a written quote just before you are due to take the pension.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on January 14, 2017, 08:29:54 PM
NPN - I get £130.61p per week, having reached retirement age in May. I apparently get a bit less than the full pension as, being an ex member of the constabulary, I was 'contracted out' for a period of time. Would anything like this apply in your case?  ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mr bachmann on January 14, 2017, 08:36:35 PM
pension or not , its blooming cold , neighbors around me (and better off) have new boilers for free whether needed or not - but your's truly has 2 not working storage heaters and have been told to replace them at my expense  :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 14, 2017, 08:45:51 PM
@malc @danny boy

If the Pensions department tell me I have 44 years full contribution and the requirement is for 35, then surely this takes into account any contracted out period (I'm not even sure what that is). The figures are from them. At present I don't know if I will get £145.55, £136.66 or £155.65 and it seems they don't know either. No doubt I'll have to waste a lot of time next week on the phone trying to get through to a human ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on January 14, 2017, 11:41:55 PM
The contracted out bit is if you were in a firm's pension scheme. Then you didn't pay the SERPS bit of the national insurance, so they only count as basic years. But it still counts to your 35 years or whatever. I was in the gap period where I was just short of getting the new rates, but do ask for a written quote from Newcastle. That will answer your question, however I seem to remember that you can only get one if you are going to retire in the next 12 months.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ian Bowden on January 15, 2017, 12:29:55 AM
You can get a pension quote online from the department of work and pensions website. I got one before I retired and the figure I was given was a lot less than I finally got. They don't appear to be able to calculate the extras  until you retire.

Watch the tax people the computer system they use sometimes adds a full year of pension income to a full year of your final pay on retirement and assumes you will still receive that as well as your pension thus it assess your tax wrong. It happened 2 years running with my tax code. Each time the person I spoke to knew of the problem and sent a corrected tax code.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: colpatben on January 17, 2017, 08:40:54 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on January 14, 2017, 08:45:51 PM
@malc @danny boy

If the Pensions department tell me I have 44 years full contribution and the requirement is for 35, then surely this takes into account any contracted out period (I'm not even sure what that is). The figures are from them. At present I don't know if I will get £145.55, £136.66 or £155.65 and it seems they don't know either. No doubt I'll have to waste a lot of time next week on the phone trying to get through to a human ::)

Try this article as it may help explain the reason for the diverse figutes of your forcast.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/pensions/article-4105986/Savers-smaller-pensions-duff-Government-forecasts.html (http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/pensions/article-4105986/Savers-smaller-pensions-duff-Government-forecasts.html)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 17, 2017, 12:18:20 PM
Thanks, Colin (I think :uneasy:)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on January 17, 2017, 12:27:00 PM
Quote from: colpatben on January 17, 2017, 08:40:54 AM
Try this article as it may help explain the reason for the diverse figutes of your forcast.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/pensions/article-4105986/Savers-smaller-pensions-duff-Government-forecasts.html (http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/pensions/article-4105986/Savers-smaller-pensions-duff-Government-forecasts.html)

Sadly the article, though very informative, leads to this conclusion:

"Regarding the people who lost out.....'Unfortunately there isn't much they can do. They can't undo contracting out so they should try the usual routes to make up holes in their NI record.'"

There is a link to "the usual routes" which I have yet to explore, but as I reach full retirement age in August and was contracted out for a few years, I don't have a lot of faith in the last 'forecast' the DWP gave me.  Looks like it's wait and see time.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ian Bowden on January 17, 2017, 12:51:50 PM
If you have any gaps in your payments you can make a lump sum payment to cover them before you retire.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: javlinfaw7 on January 17, 2017, 03:01:29 PM
I worked fr two employers simultaneously for a period of twenty years , one contracted in one contracted out. I paid national insurance in both jobs,
I think that may confuse things in  three years when I come to retire.
Fortunately my contacted out pension was final salary.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Steamie+ on January 18, 2017, 06:58:42 AM
Contracted out contracted in, it is all a con really, the average wage is far more then the weekly payment, if you haven't had a personal pension to top up the government one tough luck, they don't care, so we end up on the breadline. Not all pensioners are well off. I retire this September or earlier if work get their way and i will not get anywhere new what i earn weekly and trying to get extra benefits is like trying to catch the wind, impossible.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ozzie Bill. on January 20, 2017, 12:24:05 PM
:poop: news from here in Melbourne with some cretin going off, driving through a pedestrian mall and killing at least 3 injuring 20+. Sometimes makes you want to bring back capital punishment!

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Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 20, 2017, 12:35:13 PM
Saw that on the news, Bill :(
Whatever happened to crims 'falling down the police station stairs' etc? >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NinOz on January 21, 2017, 08:10:21 AM
Quote from: ozzie Bill. on January 20, 2017, 12:24:05 PM
:poop: news from here in Melbourne with some cretin going off, driving through a pedestrian mall and killing at least 3 injuring 20+. Sometimes makes you want to bring back capital punishment!
A news report said the "alleged driver".  After chasing this guy for hours, video of him doing burnouts and wheelies and running people down then shooting him in the arm; is there a possibility the police got an innocent bystander by mistake?
I really hate news people using "alleged" and "suspect" in totally inappropriate usage.

Amazing that Vic cops only winged him usually they tend to shoot to kill.  Possibly that he wasn't a mentally disturbed person armed with a spoon may explain the lack of multiple kill shots.

CFJ
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on January 21, 2017, 08:21:09 AM
Well apparently he was mentally disturbed and also on something. It wasn't terrorist related, but if that ain't terrorism, I dunno what is.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: port perran on January 27, 2017, 04:24:33 PM
Grrrrrrrrrr..... bought replacement handles for our bathroom door today.
Fine....2.5 minutes to fit plus 45 yess FORTY FIVE minutes to extract the handles from the packaging. It says, small screwdriver  needed to remove pakaging. Oh....plus the bigger screwdriver, pliers, pincers and large scissors.
As someone on the B&Q forum said...."packaging obviously designed by someone recently retired from Fort Knox".
:veryangry: :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ian Bowden on January 30, 2017, 01:00:21 PM
Sitting here simmering nicely.

The gas meter at the theatre was supposed to be changed last December. The morning appointment (8.00am to 1.00pm) came and went, at 2.30pm the engineer rang to say he would be with me about 3.30 and it would take 2 hours. I pointed out that it should be a morning appointment and he said it was down for afternoon. I cancelled and told him to rearrange the appointment. It was rearranged for today morning again. The engineer arrived at 12.45 and looked at the meter and said he only had one fitting not the two he needed. He is currently ringing round to find another engineer who has a fitting. Either way he is going to leave and the other engineer will do the job if he has the fittings. Did I meantion they sent someone to survey the job first so should know what fittings were required.

The replacement engineer can doi the job in about two hours time and it will take about 2 hours. Cancelled again as I have other things to do in the afternoon.

10 hours wasted and counting.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TylerB on January 30, 2017, 01:15:56 PM
Double Glazing salesman... need I say more?

Seriously, I need new windows but the thought of having another one of these people sitting on my sofa, pretending to be friendly and then offering a quote of at least double what you should be charged, and then doing that whole 'oh I could shave a few pounds off here', 'I could call my manager and see if he can do a special' etc etc.

Just save the dance and go directly to the final price... or better still, just go away and never return

:censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :veryangry: :censored: :censored: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 30, 2017, 02:50:19 PM
I just got a telephone number for a local double glazing company and got an extremely good deal and excellent service with FENSA guarantee. I wouldn't touch anyone who advertises on the telly with anyone else's bargepole ('cos the punter pays for the ads) :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on January 30, 2017, 03:07:33 PM
Some time back I endured the dreaded Double Glazers (humble apologies for any N Gaugers wot do new windows!)

The whole house and a new front door was the pricing challenge.

Much measuring and scribbling on NCR documentation resulted in a quote that prompted me to utter two words, the first being rather 'Anglo-Saxon'."Thought you'd say that." said the salesman and promptly reworked the quote that produced something like 60% of the original price.

More recently we had our current place reglazed but fortunately we avoided the silly prices and got a great deal so there are good guys out there.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 30, 2017, 08:38:24 PM
Quote from: escafeld on January 30, 2017, 06:24:53 PM
I had replacement windows and conservatory fitted in 2015. When I phoned up the Double Glazing companies I told them if they wanted any chance of an order then the salesman was to come round measure up, tell me what was good about there product and then leave. Any mention of why I shouldn't use one of there competitors would also mean that they wouldn't get the contract. I also told them that I wanted the quote sending through the post and was only interested in there best price.

I had arranged for 5 quotes, 4 from local companies and one from a National company. On arrival I reiterated my conditions before they came into my house. The four local companies all agreed, the national company salesman told me that was not the way they operated and he would have to produce a quote while he was at my house, I promptly told him I was no longer interested in that companies products and closed the front door.  :D

Each salesman from the local companies seemed desperate to find out who else I was having quotes from but all I told them was four local companies and a national company. The one I choose in the end wasn't the cheapest but the salesman (owner) told me that whichever local company I was to choose I couldn't go far wrong as they all offered quality products and fitting. His honesty in that statement got him the contract.

Noted.

And will be applied for future uses in the Skyline household  :thumbsup:

Oh, right, angry thread.....erm.....booooo it's wet outside....

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ian Bowden on January 30, 2017, 09:38:07 PM
Ive had the it will cost X but as you are a member of some group etc we can reduce the price and then the fake call to the sales director who then authorises even more off. The local company came said it will cost a few pounds more that the national company but they would fit the roof to the porch as I wanted in tiles rather than plastic as the national company insisted. No discounts just an honest price.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on January 30, 2017, 10:18:10 PM
What is it about double glazing salesmen? Some years ago, one knocked at my parents' house ... while my dad and my uncle were up ladders fitting a new front window  ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on January 30, 2017, 10:37:29 PM
I have a very wide front window - the main pane is 8 feet - and I would love to replace it to cut out noise and get better draft exclusion. It is an old UPVC double glazed unit, but was badly fitted before we bought the house, the seals are failing and triple glazing would help greatly.
Trouble is the lintel above has cracks, though my brother, an accredited M.I.M.E., says it's okay at the moment but might need specialists if we were to replace it.
I can just imagine the sharks would have a field day.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on January 30, 2017, 10:39:45 PM
When my brother first moved out on his own he kept getting called every week by the same double-glazing/conservatory company, and every time he told them where to go in no uncertain terms!

Finally he gave in and made an appointment for the bloke to come round Thursday evening to quote for a conservatory. When the bloke knocked on the door and my brother opened it, the salesman was confronted with just a flight of stairs  ??? When it dawned on him that my bro lived in an UPSTAIRS MAISONETTE :D he said "I thought you were interested in a conservatory?". My brother replied with "I am, although you'd probably better ask the people downstairs if they mind two whacking great posts in their garden to hold it up" ;D

What the bloke muttered as he stomped away to his car is probably best left to the imagination ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on January 30, 2017, 11:41:46 PM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on January 31, 2017, 03:11:33 PM
Was just taking wife to Frimley Park hospital for Xray on two lane carriage way when car on left just pulls straight into my lane and side swipes the side of my car. Scratches and dents from rear wing, along doors, to front wing.
Other car did not stop - didn't even slow down!!  :censored:
No one hurt fortunately.

Reported to police and insurance but, unless the police catch the other :censored: or someone phones in to police as a witness I'm gonna be stung for £150 excess plus all the hassle of getting the car fixed.

:veryangry: :veryangry:

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jon898 on January 31, 2017, 03:52:45 PM
Quote from: austinbob on January 31, 2017, 03:11:33 PM
Was just taking wife to Frimley Park hospital for Xray on two lane carriage way when car on left just pulls straight into my lane and side swipes the side of my car. Scratches and dents from rear wing, along doors, to front wing.
Other car did not stop - didn't even slow down!!  :censored:
No one hurt fortunately.

Reported to police and insurance but, unless the police catch the other :censored: or someone phones in to police as a witness I'm gonna be stung for £150 excess plus all the hassle of getting the car fixed.

:veryangry: :veryangry:

That really sucks.  It seems some people are completely oblivious to what's going on around them when they drive:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqIeM3blPck (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqIeM3blPck)

Jon
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on January 31, 2017, 03:57:19 PM
Oops!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Yet_Another on January 31, 2017, 04:17:43 PM
Quote from: Jon898 on January 31, 2017, 03:52:45 PM
It seems some people are completely oblivious to what's going on around them when they drive
Actually, best to assume that everybody else is trying to kill you. I have various terms for them. Monkeys are to ones who have no concept of the future, thus are unable to evaluate the consequences of their actions, and YAUFs, well, the first part is 'yet another useless': I'll leave what the F stands for to your imagination.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 31, 2017, 10:15:22 PM
I rode motorcycles for over 12 years and am sure I only survived by treating everyone else as an idiot on the roads. Sadly, in Bob's case, even this attitude would not have prevented it and, even more sadly, I fear he'll have to cough up himself to get everything fixed. :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on January 31, 2017, 10:20:36 PM
It's also what I was taught when learning to drive HGVs (yes I know a good many HGV drivers appear to forget this soon after getting their licence!).

My instructor told me to always expect the idiots around you to do exactly what you DON'T think they'd be stupid enough to do - you won't be disappointed OR surprised when they do just that ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mito on January 31, 2017, 10:25:21 PM
I've had two minor accidents in over 50 years of driving, but more importantly I've avoided dozens more by "reading" the actions of the idiots who were hell bent on having one.  If you type "fail" into the search bar on Youtube, there are dozens of videos of quite spectacular  accidents especially in Russia. Most could have been avoided with a bit of care and forethought.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on January 31, 2017, 11:08:11 PM
I found being a motorcyclist for some years before I downgraded to cars ;) taught me more about survival than anything else ever could.

The day a very large 12 wheel truck came out of a building site right in front of me taught me that it is very easy to die on the roads. I hit it. Hard. It ran over my bike and flattened it. It missed me cos I hit it and bounced off.

Nowadays I consider that I'm a very good driver. Not perfect, but I'm trying.  I just have to remember I am in a minority and act accordingly.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 01, 2017, 12:18:36 AM
On my last few visits to the UK and driving hire cars, I found most drivers to be refreshingly good compared to here in NSW. I really am of the opinion that we have some of the worst drivers in the world.

What scared me the most about driving in the UK was the speed on the motorways and huge trucks pulling out to overtake suddenly.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: JonHarbour on February 01, 2017, 12:42:49 AM
I'd disagree that NSW has some of the worst drivers in the world... I've driven in the Middle East (UAE, Saudi, Jordan, Syria and Oman) and been a passenger in vehicles in India.  :o :goggleeyes: :jawdropping:

India was the scariest - so many random things that you don't see elsewhere happening at once! Saudi is up there too - I nearly had a head-on at night with a truck that thought it a great idea to decorate the front of the truck with red lights!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 01, 2017, 12:59:22 AM
Quote from: JonHarbour on February 01, 2017, 12:42:49 AM
I'd disagree that NSW has some of the worst drivers in the world... I've driven in the Middle East (UAE, Saudi, Jordan, Syria and Oman) and been a passenger in vehicles in India.  :o :goggleeyes: :jawdropping:

India was the scariest - so many random things that you don't see elsewhere happening at once! Saudi is up there too - I nearly had a head-on at night with a truck that thought it a great idea to decorate the front of the truck with red lights!
Red lights on the front? Awesome in a scary sort of way!

Point taken, but I've had some close calls with some idiots here in the Gong just this week.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: JonHarbour on February 01, 2017, 01:09:40 AM
Made worse by the truck being so  :poop: filthy that the headlights were grubby brown glows. I was on a single carriageway road, the truck in front of me moved to the right a bit to help me pass (remember it's left hand drive in the Middle East) and as I moved out to take a gander I could only see  red lights.... Took me about 2/3 of the way past the semi-trailer I was overtaking to realise that the red lights were getting closer to me a lot quicker than they should be if the lorry was travelling in the same direction as me!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 01, 2017, 03:10:12 AM
Eeeek! What action did you take?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: JonHarbour on February 01, 2017, 03:20:08 AM
slammed on the brakes and ducked quickly back in behind the lorry I had been overtaking!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 01, 2017, 03:27:17 AM
Hope you were wearing brown trousers!  ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: JonHarbour on February 01, 2017, 03:34:53 AM
Not at first....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 01, 2017, 03:45:00 AM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Graham on February 01, 2017, 04:38:28 AM
Whilst working I regularly drove or was driven in Sydney and found the drivers to be very courteous after those down here.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 01, 2017, 04:49:03 AM
Well, as I say, I've had couple of incidents in my hometown recently.... although I did almost get skittled in Melbourne this time last year  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ian Bowden on February 01, 2017, 09:40:49 AM
Quote from: austinbob on January 31, 2017, 03:11:33 PM
Was just taking wife to Frimley Park hospital for Xray on two lane carriage way when car on left just pulls straight into my lane and side swipes the side of my car. Scratches and dents from rear wing, along doors, to front wing.
Other car did not stop - didn't even slow down!!  :censored:
No one hurt fortunately.

Reported to police and insurance but, unless the police catch the other :censored: or someone phones in to police as a witness I'm gonna be stung for £150 excess plus all the hassle of getting the car fixed.

:veryangry: :veryangry:
I fitted a dashboard camera. Not yet needed to use it but would have helped in some of my previous bumps, especially the one where the driver scraped the dirt off to show me the supposed new scratch I had made.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 01, 2017, 10:25:37 AM
Having been a Sales Manager (yup - all mouth & motorway) for a large percentage of my working life, and having driven over ½ a million miles at least (I know this as I had 4 company cars on each of which I put over 100,000 miles plus all my private driving), I find UK motorways are the safest place to be as (a) obviously everyone is (normally) travelling in the same direction and (b) they are occupied by professional drivers such as sales people and lorry drivers. It takes some experience to actually know the necessities a lorry driver needs but the main one is to maintain speed so I always drive with one eye on a lorry and what position it's in, knowing in my own mind when it will need to pull out and, yes, it can happen quite quickly but I'm prepared for it.
What gets my goat are the holidaymakers who don't normally drive on motorways but come their break they set off with an overloaded, underpowered vehicle and make themselves a motorway mobile chicane because they have no clue as to how to drive on such roads. They're a danger to themselves and everyone else around them :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Yet_Another on February 01, 2017, 10:51:59 AM
NPN, the nature of drivers is changing. The last two years of daily commute from North Wales to Manchester has completely ruined the driving experience for me. I fully agree that what you describe used to be the case, but now, even in rush hour, when you'd expect everyone to know what they're doing, there are more and more absolute nutters trying to kill you in their high speed impatience.
(btw my current car is now in its second half million miles)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on February 01, 2017, 10:57:49 AM
Quote from: Ian Bowden on February 01, 2017, 09:40:49 AM
Quote from: austinbob on January 31, 2017, 03:11:33 PM
Was just taking wife to Frimley Park hospital for Xray on two lane carriage way when car on left just pulls straight into my lane and side swipes the side of my car. Scratches and dents from rear wing, along doors, to front wing.
Other car did not stop - didn't even slow down!!  :censored:
No one hurt fortunately.

Reported to police and insurance but, unless the police catch the other :censored: or someone phones in to police as a witness I'm gonna be stung for £150 excess plus all the hassle of getting the car fixed.

:veryangry: :veryangry:
I fitted a dashboard camera. Not yet needed to use it but would have helped in some of my previous bumps, especially the one where the driver scraped the dirt off to show me the supposed new scratch I had made.
I had thought of getting a dashboard camera after my car has been repaired, but this accident is the first one I've been involved in for 12 years or more. So, Murphy's law says if I buy a camera I won't have another accident. Still maybe that's a plan anyway!!
:beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 01, 2017, 11:05:17 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on February 01, 2017, 10:25:37 AM
Having been a Sales Manager (yup - all mouth & motorway) for a large percentage of my working life, and having driven over ½ a million miles at least (I know this as I had 4 company cars on each of which I put over 100,000 miles plus all my private driving), I find UK motorways are the safest place to be as (a) obviously everyone is (normally) travelling in the same direction and (b) they are occupied by professional drivers such as sales people and lorry drivers. It takes some experience to actually know the necessities a lorry driver needs but the main one is to maintain speed so I always drive with one eye on a lorry and what position it's in, knowing in my own mind when it will need to pull out and, yes, it can happen quite quickly but I'm prepared for it.
What gets my goat are the holidaymakers who don't normally drive on motorways but come their break they set off with an overloaded, underpowered vehicle and make themselves a motorway mobile chicane because they have no clue as to how to drive on such roads. They're a danger to themselves and everyone else around them :veryangry:
G'day,  Mick!

As you are aware, I would definitely fall into the tourist category!  ;D

Your lifetime driving the motorways of Britain is formidable and certainly impresses me.

That is my point..... from my perspective here in Australia, driving the English motorways scares the  :poop: out of me!

:beers:

George
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on February 01, 2017, 11:13:37 AM
Re dashboard cameras:

Having worked in a Motor Claims department of a large insurer for some years I would encourage everyone to fit cameras, both forward and rear facing.

They could prove invaluable in accidents, and with the volume of traffic, the loons in their cars who believe they own the road, the idiots who just don't know how to drive, those who are uninsured and unlicensed, the 'professional' accident claim perpetrators, and all other possible causes of incidents and accidents, are they not now all but essential?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 01, 2017, 11:31:45 AM
@Yet_Another (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4156)
I won't disagree with you regarding rush hour, Tony. Despite being retired I still hurtle (as much as my Ford Siesta lets me) down the M6, frequently the M61 and very often the M60/62 and see plenty of good driving as much as bad but rush hour is just something to be avoided if possible if a pristine car and one's sanity is to be preserved. Sadly my Mum's many holiday flights means I get tipped onto the M60 at peak times :doh:
I'm quite sure we could pack a separate thread on driving antics ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Yet_Another on February 01, 2017, 11:47:37 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on February 01, 2017, 11:31:45 AM
I'm quite sure we could pack a separate thread on driving antics ;D
Oh yes!  :)

But I'm not sure if it would relieve or exacerbate the blood pressure  :confused1:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on February 01, 2017, 02:27:30 PM

I now live and DRIVE in ITALY !!!

Need I say more.

Jerry
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 01, 2017, 02:35:20 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on February 01, 2017, 02:27:30 PM

I now live and DRIVE in ITALY !!!

Need I say more.

Jerry

Having driven a Fiat Punto in Tuscany a few years ago I believe only headlights, horn and accelerator are necessities. :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on February 01, 2017, 02:36:27 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on February 01, 2017, 02:27:30 PM

I now live and DRIVE in ITALY !!!

Need I say more.

Jerry
Just that you're still alive!!! Must be those wrap around reinforced bumpers.   :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on February 01, 2017, 02:53:13 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on February 01, 2017, 02:35:20 PM

Having driven a Fiat Punto in Tuscany a few years ago I believe only headlights, horn and accelerator are necessities. :worried:

Since then there is a compulsory new rule:
Hold mobile phone in the right hand whilst gesticulating with the left, this applies on bends even if you are driving the local bus!!! 

Jerry
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on February 01, 2017, 05:03:09 PM
My worst experiences were being driven in Portugal. You can understand why it has the largest number of RTA in Europe.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on February 01, 2017, 05:22:20 PM
vietnam was an intresting place for driving,indicators? no i'll honk the horn,give way at junctions? nope ive beeped my horn so its my right of way,road junction too busy ?no problem ,horn honked and onto the pavement we go , just going to cut across the on coming traffic no problem horn honked,as for crossing the road as a pedestrian ,dont bother waiting for the traffic to stop just step out and keep going,dont stop and dont change direction, the traffic  will weave around you
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 01, 2017, 06:45:17 PM
Sounds a bit like 8 a.m. in Leyland, Lancashire :hmmm: ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on February 02, 2017, 10:48:58 AM
Argo you are a lying bunch of [insert choice of  expletive here]. Placed an order yesterday for home delivery ,all items shown in stock ,chose a delivery time of between  19:00 -22:00 the same day.Waited for the goods to turn up, at 22:30 still no sign so checked the online tracking to find the items had been delivered,to were? no idea but not here.Still no sign this morning so rang there customer lying services department.seemingly the goods had been delivered at 19:21-19:24 but no signature taken,no problem we will redeliver the goods  immediately ,but  1 of the items is out of stock so that will be delayed. Strange  your site is showing  several in stock at my local store,available for immediate delivery,best you cancel the order and refund my money.surprise surprise thats going to take 5 working days,even though they can take your money in less than 5 seconds.On the plus side when i pushed them about my wasted time they offered a £10 gift card,and when i pointed out i wouldn't be using there company again agreed to add it onto the repayment.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on February 02, 2017, 10:57:39 AM
Quote from: themadhippy on February 02, 2017, 10:48:58 AM
Argo you are a lying bunch of [insert choice of  expletive here]. Placed an order yesterday for home delivery ,all items shown in stock ,chose a delivery time of between  19:00 -22:00 the same day.Waited for the goods to turn up, at 22:30 still no sign so checked the online tracking to find the items had been delivered,to were? no idea but not here.Still no sign this morning so rang there customer lying services department.seemingly the goods had been delivered at 19:21-19:24 but no signature taken,no problem we will redeliver the goods  immediately ,but  1 of the items is out of stock so that will be delayed. Strange  your site is showing  several in stock at my local store,available for immediate delivery,best you cancel the order and refund my money.surprise surprise thats going to take 5 working days,even though they can take your money in less than 5 seconds.On the plus side when i pushed them about my wasted time they offered a £10 gift card,and when i pointed out i wouldn't be using there company again agreed to add it onto the repayment.

Oh that shop.

Had all sorts of fun with them last year trying to get a new Oven.

Took them to the retail Ombudsman only to find out they are not a member but said they would follow any ruling. And they did, right up to the point when it was found Argos were wrong. Then they stopped responding to the Ombudsman.

All the failings you describe above are grounds for complaint and you would win, but until they sign up (or are made to), very little that can be done.

I also now avoid them if at all possible.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Steamie+ on February 16, 2017, 07:09:50 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on February 01, 2017, 06:45:17 PM
Sounds a bit like 8 a.m. in Leyland, Lancashire :hmmm: ;)


:laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Steamie+ on February 16, 2017, 07:21:47 AM
Those members on Facebook who can't be bothered to post their photo's / Videos and questions on the main Forum really get me annoyed, i have posted a thread on the General Discussion page and even replied to the posts on Fb to ask them to post their photo's / videos and question s on the main Forum, but haven't even got a reply there. Flipping ignorant if you ask me, there are lots of Forum members who don't or don't won't to have a Facebook account and i can accept their wish's, so they don't get to see any thing that is posted on FB, but what i can't accept is their pathetic excuse about finding it harder to post photo's and videos on the main Forum, i have over the last few days copied their photo's to my own Photo Album on my macbook, then posted them on here, whats os flipping hard about that. And while i am on it, what's even harder then posting a question on here rather than Facebook, i don't get it at all.   

I don't think this forum is at unfriendly, compared to others i have joined in the past, but now don't have anything to with at all.      :NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ian Bowden on February 16, 2017, 08:03:47 AM
After 2 mornings (8am to 1pm) wasted waiting for a new smart meter to be installed I have had a call to make yet another appointment. The last engineer arrived at 12.45 and looked at the meter and said he didn't have the correct connectors. The person making the appointment told me it was really because he was running late that the last appointment was cancelled. Next time?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on February 16, 2017, 08:14:41 AM
Quote from: Ian Bowden on February 16, 2017, 08:03:47 AM
After 2 mornings (8am to 1pm) wasted waiting for a new smart meter to be installed I have had a call to make yet another appointment. The last engineer arrived at 12.45 and looked at the meter and said he didn't have the correct connectors. The person making the appointment told me it was really because he was running late that the last appointment was cancelled. Next time?

:thumbsdown:

That really is not good enough. I assume these smart meters are free? Not that that excuses such behaviour at all, it's annoying because you can't even leverage the two (now three) wasted mornings against getting a free one.

Hope you get there in the end.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Steamie+ on February 16, 2017, 08:24:01 AM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on February 16, 2017, 08:14:41 AM
Quote from: Ian Bowden on February 16, 2017, 08:03:47 AM
After 2 mornings (8am to 1pm) wasted waiting for a new smart meter to be installed I have had a call to make yet another appointment. The last engineer arrived at 12.45 and looked at the meter and said he didn't have the correct connectors. The person making the appointment told me it was really because he was running late that the last appointment was cancelled. Next time?

:thumbsdown:

That really is not good enough. I assume these smart meters are free? Not that that excuses such behaviour at all, it's annoying because you can't even leverage the two (now three) wasted mornings against getting a free one.

Hope you get there in the end.

Skyline2uk

Agree with above.     :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ian Bowden on February 16, 2017, 08:26:15 AM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on February 16, 2017, 08:14:41 AM
Quote from: Ian Bowden on February 16, 2017, 08:03:47 AM
After 2 mornings (8am to 1pm) wasted waiting for a new smart meter to be installed I have had a call to make yet another appointment. The last engineer arrived at 12.45 and looked at the meter and said he didn't have the correct connectors. The person making the appointment told me it was really because he was running late that the last appointment was cancelled. Next time?

:thumbsdown:

That really is not good enough. I assume these smart meters are free? Not that that excuses such behaviour at all, it's annoying because you can't even leverage the two (now three) wasted mornings against getting a free one.

Hope you get there in the end.

Skyline2uk
Actually it is 2 feet tall as it is a commercial one. This part should be in the happy thread, I was able to read a lot of threads on here while waiting
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jimbo on February 16, 2017, 12:48:18 PM
We've had a letter from our supplier saying we're installing smart meters in your area, call now to arrange installation....no thank you....NOT having one...ever! Fried brain cells? Hackers knowing when you're out? Apart from any other info 'big brother' will be able to gather about you! :censored: orf!!  :veryangry:

[mod]Kindly refrain from swearing whether badly disguised by non-alphabet characters or not. Unacceptable on a family-friendly forum![/mod]
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jimbo on February 16, 2017, 01:54:34 PM
Quote from: Jimbo on February 16, 2017, 12:48:18 PM
We've had a letter from our supplier saying we're installing smart meters in your area, call now to arrange installation....no thank you....NOT having one...ever! Fried brain cells? Hackers knowing when you're out? Apart from any other info 'big brother' will be able to gather about you! :censored: orf!!  :veryangry:

Kindly refrain from swearing whether badly disguised by non-alphabet characters or not. Unacceptable on a family-friendly forum!

Please accept my apologies! Once again!  :-[  :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jimbo on February 16, 2017, 02:28:39 PM
When they eventually knock on the door or phone, which they will inevitably will, I shall be saying a polite "No Thank You" and see what happens, as you stated Herzel there's no legal obligation to have one,  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on February 16, 2017, 02:37:08 PM
Might have a problem here, large block of retirement flats, all meters are in two rooms one each end of the building, House manager has the key to said rooms.Methinks a big rewiring job would be needed
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jimbo on February 16, 2017, 02:49:16 PM
Quote from: Only Me on February 16, 2017, 02:36:55 PM
Quote from: Jimbo on February 16, 2017, 02:28:39 PM
When they eventually knock on the door or phone, which they will inevitably will, I shall be saying a polite "No Thank You" and see what happens, as you stated Herzel there's no legal obligation to have one,  ;)

If your meter is over five years old they have the right to insist, on the grounds that your meter is old and requires replacement for health and safety reasons.... BUT you can ask them to make it a Dumb meter after they've fitted it and that they can do nothing about!....

Our meters are definitely more than 5 Years old, if they insist on replacing them for safety reasons then i'll be making sure the replacements are just 'normal' meters, I presume when you say 'Dumb' meter it'll still be a so called smart meter but not emitting any signals? If so it still won't be happening as far as I am concerned  :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jimbo on February 16, 2017, 02:53:14 PM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on February 16, 2017, 02:37:08 PM
Might have a problem here, large block of retirement flats, all meters are in two rooms one each end of the building, House manager has the key to said rooms.Methinks a big rewiring job would be needed

So you'll be getting radiation in stereo!!  :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on February 16, 2017, 03:37:24 PM
Elf n stacey is just an excuse,in fact the older 2 coil dial meters are a lot safer than any of the new digital models,and i do love how they claim to save you energy,no there not, theres not a little arm in there thats going to pop out and turn off the bog light that youve left on again.
QuoteMight have a problem here, large block of retirement flats, all meters are in two rooms one each end of the building, House manager has the key to said rooms.Methinks a big rewiring job would be needed
No need,the meter will   superimpose the data  onto  your mains feed from your  meter to your flat and the remote monitor plugs into a convinent socket.
Actually if you've got to power the remote monitor ,thats going to take power so the companys make another few pence and youll be using more power,not saving any.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on February 16, 2017, 03:53:46 PM
Maybe I'm missing something here. I've had a smart meter for several years and the installation was free and painless with the engineer arriving exactly as promised.
I haven't had my computer hacked, personal details stolen, bank accounts raided or little gnomes and fairies creeping through my letter box to poison my cornflakes.
The information it provides, whilst not mind blowingly wonderful or essential, has proved useful in locating when and what is consuming power and when the grand children have left things switched on unecessarily.
Just my 2 pennies worth. Oh and switch those lights off...
:) :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: red_death on February 16, 2017, 04:16:13 PM
Quote from: austinbob on February 16, 2017, 03:53:46 PM
Maybe I'm missing something here. I've had a smart meter for several years and the installation was free and painless with the engineer arriving exactly as promised.
I haven't had my computer hacked, personal details stolen, bank accounts raided or little gnomes and fairies creeping through my letter box to poisen my cornflakes.
The information it provides, whilst not mind blowingly wonderful or essential, has proved useful in locating when and what is consuming power and when the grand children have left things switched on unecessarily.

And that is exactly the point of them - thank you for posting such common sense in the midst of ever-wilder conspiracy theories and scaremongering!

Cheers, Mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: red_death on February 16, 2017, 05:44:48 PM
Quote from: Herzel on February 16, 2017, 05:34:13 PM
Say what you like - it's an intrusion. An unnecessary one. Conspiracy theories or not it's about making more profit. I'm ready to bet that even those who've surrendered to direct debit will still find their "account" in credit the whole time, not billed on what they've used. And, like it or not, it does allows the monitoring of your property.

More profit - how do you work that one out? Despite the cack-handed implementation and poor design (of some of the meters) it was driven by a desire to help people reduce their energy consumption and the electricity suppliers fought very heavily against it (on the grounds of cost to them).

Monitoring of your property - how? It is hardly open access for all to the monitoring system.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on February 16, 2017, 05:50:31 PM
Quote from: Herzel on February 16, 2017, 05:34:13 PM

Does no one remember the video hire shop scam?

...

Nope. :)

Never needed to have one fitted. :laugh2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on February 16, 2017, 05:54:14 PM
I've not yet been contacted about smart meters, but I do have a concern about them. Nothing to do with hacks, spooks, or Reds under the bed, but I just remember when they were first fitted that some folks reckoned they were sending incorrect readings to the suppliers - that is, too high.

Does anybody know the truth (not the rumour) about this, or was it all just teething problems?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: red_death on February 16, 2017, 06:07:54 PM
Quote from: Herzel on February 16, 2017, 05:55:35 PM
More profit - they won't have to send meter-readers around, not to forget the firms that are making these meters and developing, maintaining the software (you'll soon be paying for them if you aren't already).

The old rotor meters with dials lasted FAR more than 5 years and I don't believe the current digital ones are built with a nominal life of 5 years! Someone's on the make. It's arbitrary change to serve business owners not users.

Except most of that just isn't correct.  The electricity suppliers lobbied hard against smart meters - why would they have done that if they were going to make a profit out of it? I happen to know because I did some of the work when they were first being discussed with Govt.

The concession was that they were allowed to charge a small amount of the costs of smart meter provision and installation to the user, but that was far less than the cost to them.

If you are a smart provider then OK you get a one off benefit but that isn't the electricity companies. The reality is that if you are going to make the change to smart meters then it is easier to arrange to do it over a relatively short time period than to let it happen organically over the lifespan of dial meters (which I agre with you is far more than 5 years but that isn't particularly relevant).

More to the point the idea (as I've already said) was about educating people and helping them reduce energy usage -> which means less money for electricity suppliers (not more).

So it was far from an arbitrary change, nor does it really serve the main business owner (electricity companies) at all well.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on February 16, 2017, 06:16:27 PM
Quote from: daffy on February 16, 2017, 05:54:14 PM
I've not yet been contacted about smart meters, but I do have a concern about them. Nothing to do with hacks, spooks, or Reds under the bed, but I just remember when they were first fitted that some folks reckoned they were sending incorrect readings to the suppliers - that is, too high.

Does anybody know the truth (not the rumour) about this, or was it all just teething problems?
From what I've read they are no less accurate than dumb meters. Certainly my consumption has not changed since my smart meter was installed. Indeed, I can monitor my usage on an hourly basis making it very easy to spot problems.
:beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on February 16, 2017, 06:48:55 PM
Yawn....
I think this little topic has run its course. I'm off to pastures new (and better).
:sleep: :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Gary Burcombe on February 16, 2017, 08:25:55 PM
I listen to Martin Lewis, Money saving expert an awful lot.  In his opinion they are not "smart" enough to save the consumer money.  And a fact is that the government didn't legislate the meters and they are not compatable between the energy suppliers, thus, although you are free to switch, they might get awkward about the meters.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on February 16, 2017, 08:49:32 PM
Have to agree with a few of the earlier posts. I've had a smart meter for over a year now. The engineer turned up on time at my convenience, took about 20 minutes to fit it and I've never had a problem. The indoor monitor didn't last long though as if I need to use electricity I will despite what the monitor says I've used. I just unplugged it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on February 16, 2017, 09:52:30 PM
Quote from: Gary Burcombe on February 16, 2017, 08:25:55 PM
I listen to Martin Lewis, Money saving expert an awful lot.

Living in Ireland, I do not get to hear him, but I get his regular emails. There is usually not a lot of use to me directly, but plenty of good advice. I will post a link if anyone wants it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: acko22 on February 16, 2017, 11:02:23 PM
Well finally home just wow is the only word I can use on here.

Got the train from barracks the usual route through London and paid the normal price £73 so nothing new there leaving at 2pm.
Well got into London and crossed over to Euston for the 4pm train, then bang Virgin trains won't let me on!!!!
If you get a virgin train from London East or west coast they have made anything from 3pm to 7pm a peak service and won't accept railcards even HM Forces ones so all of a sudden that £73 now becomes £284!!!!!!!!! Now as you can imagine I was less than happy and refused to pay that at that price I can fly from Southampton to Manchester and back saving £100.

Now here is the the best bit, if I was travelling the opposite way back to work into London it's off peak so I am been penalised for setting off on my outbound journey at an off peak time and making my connection at a Virginstow made up peak times.

And they wonder why people drive when rail companies are ripping people off so brazenly and when I  complained virgin said blame south west trains and I came sure you can guess what south west say.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: red_death on February 17, 2017, 12:02:42 AM
Should have come and met Ben and I for a pint on your way through London! We were just at Kings X.

Cheers, M
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: acko22 on February 17, 2017, 12:10:00 AM
Quote from: red_death on February 17, 2017, 12:02:42 AM
Should have come and met Ben and I for a pint on your way through London! We were just at Kings X.

Cheers, M

:censored:

If I knew that it could have been a repeat of last time, although tilting train when tipsy never a good combo!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ian Bowden on February 17, 2017, 12:28:48 AM
Quote from: Gary Burcombe on February 16, 2017, 08:25:55 PM
I listen to Martin Lewis, Money saving expert an awful lot.  In his opinion they are not "smart" enough to save the consumer money.  And a fact is that the government didn't legislate the meters and they are not compatable between the energy suppliers, thus, although you are free to switch, they might get awkward about the meters.
the latest meters have to be compatible. True early meters differed from supplier to supplier, now they must all be compatible.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Steamie+ on February 17, 2017, 07:01:33 AM
Quote from: austinbob on February 16, 2017, 03:53:46 PM
Maybe I'm missing something here. I've had a smart meter for several years and the installation was free and painless with the engineer arriving exactly as promised.
I haven't had my computer hacked, personal details stolen, bank accounts raided or little gnomes and fairies creeping through my letter box to poisen my cornflakes.
The information it provides, whilst not mind blowingly wonderful or essential, has proved useful in locating when and what is consuming power and when the grand children have left things switched on unecessarily.
Just my 2 pennies worth. Oh and switch those lights off...
:) :beers:

Aren't these smart meters supposed to switch off things for you, or do you still have to get up off you favourite chair and do it yourself.     :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jimbo on February 17, 2017, 07:07:50 AM
Quote from: acko22 on February 16, 2017, 11:02:23 PM
Well finally home just wow is the only word I can use on here.

Got the train from barracks the usual route through London and paid the normal price £73 so nothing new there leaving at 2pm.
Well got into London and crossed over to Euston for the 4pm train, then bang Virgin trains won't let me on!!!!
If you get a virgin train from London East or west coast they have made anything from 3pm to 7pm a peak service and won't accept railcards even HM Forces ones so all of a sudden that £73 now becomes £284!!!!!!!!! Now as you can imagine I was less than happy and refused to pay that at that price I can fly from Southampton to Manchester and back saving £100.

Now here is the the best bit, if I was travelling the opposite way back to work into London it's off peak so I am been penalised for setting off on my outbound journey at an off peak time and making my connection at a Virginstow made up peak times.

And they wonder why people drive when rail companies are ripping people off so brazenly and when I  complained virgin said blame south west trains and I came sure you can guess what south west say.

That is disgusting!  :veryangry: That's a fine way to thank you for your service! HM forces personnel should be treated with more respect than that....sorry to hear that! 😩
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 17, 2017, 10:12:21 AM
To my mind services personnel should get concessionary fares anyway.
Hope Beardyman is happy :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 27, 2017, 02:51:17 AM
One or more of the inmates from the local prison must have escaped 'cos I have been woken from my slumbers by the police helicopter hovering over the area, drifting away and then returning. Once awake I find it very hard to get back to sleep :veryangry: :sleep:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 27, 2017, 03:31:08 AM
They've found out where you live, Mick  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Steamie+ on February 27, 2017, 06:47:09 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on February 27, 2017, 02:51:17 AM
One or more of the inmates from the local prison must have escaped 'cos I have been woken from my slumbers by the police helicopter hovering over the area, drifting away and then returning. Once awake I find it very hard to get back to sleep :veryangry: :sleep:

Same every morning for me Mick.. :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: javlinfaw7 on February 27, 2017, 11:25:06 AM
I live next to a major hospital air ambulances over the house at all hours night and day , you do get used to it.  Fortunately the larger air see rescue helicopters are now diverted to a heliport half a mile away, pictures attached show previous ASR Seakings first from back garden approaching the hospital , next from the front garden landing on the hospital roof , both taken with a 300mm lens
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on February 27, 2017, 01:42:18 PM
Without seeming a snob, why does a certain class off people (more specifically the female variety) , who have obviously never worked a day in their lives think its tolerable if their contribution to society should be to shriek or bellow at the top of the voices so that, the more civilised members of society are constantly reminded of their existence??

To say one of them this morning, as I left for work had a voice you could hear over 3 fields (Sheffield, Wakefield and Huddersfield) was an understatement,
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on February 27, 2017, 06:26:40 PM
I know it's not politically correct but I have observed over a number of years that people from certain countries/regions talk louder than British people and people from France north of the river Loire.

(I'm trying to help you out Paul).

Best regards,


Joe
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: javlinfaw7 on February 27, 2017, 10:55:44 PM
I regularly through my work meet a number of people who cannot form a sentence without three or four expletives . One young lady , swore roughly every second word but totally unaware that this was unusual , out with her loud  unusual language she was a pleasant normal young person . It makes me wonder where thing went wrong
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on February 28, 2017, 04:55:41 PM
I know a lad who swears that much, he has mastered the art of the intersyllabic profanity. As in eco-profanity-nomics.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on February 28, 2017, 05:45:27 PM
I blame edookayshun, parenting and peer pressure.
And TV.
And everything else. :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 01, 2017, 10:32:39 AM
Some low life scum have got hold of my credit card details and been spending at places I can't afford such as Harrods and Selfridges. First I had to get mangled up in the automated system to check if the text messages I received this morning at 04.30 were in fact from my bank and then got further mangled in the Fraud Team section automated bit :veryangry:
Upshot is no money lost but I've had to dice up my credit card and will have to wait a week for another one. Not so much angry at the bank as the whole inconvenience/rigmarole I now have to go through with paypal etc purely due to someone who needs to get a life of their own :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on March 01, 2017, 10:40:08 AM
Sympathies Mick.
I had the same happen to me about two years ago - some morons bought furniture and flight tickets. All sorted okay but being without a Credit Card for a week in this day and age is a real pain. Hopefully it'll reach you sooner, though mine took 5 days I think.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 01, 2017, 10:44:09 AM
Is that fair dinkum, Mick? Eeek!

Happened to me a couple of years ago, but they were only trying it on at K-Mart.

At least your thief was a bit up market  ;)  :beers:

Glad no account was compromised.

George
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on March 01, 2017, 10:46:47 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 01, 2017, 10:32:39 AM
Some low life scum have got hold of my credit card details and been spending at places I can't afford such as Harrods and Selfridges. First I had to get mangled up in the automated system to check if the text messages I received this morning at 04.30 were in fact from my bank and then got further mangled in the Fraud Team section automated bit :veryangry:
Upshot is no money lost but I've had to dice up my credit card and will have to wait a week for another one. Not so much angry at the bank as the whole inconvenience/rigmarole I now have to go through with paypal etc purely due to someone who needs to get a life of their own :censored:

Much sympathy mate, had similar myself.

I know you don't want to hear this right now (I was fuming also) and by all means call me a patronising so and so but;

It could have been worse.

I genuinely believe in times like this it helps to contemplate how badly things could have got and therefore in comparison how lucky you are.

Anyway; you are on the right thread!

Vent away good sir...

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on March 01, 2017, 10:55:45 AM
Has happened to me also - seems to be a pretty common occurrence these days. Even if you don't lose any money its a load of hassle getting it all sorted out.
>:( :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on March 01, 2017, 02:28:22 PM
Sorry 'bout that Mick - wasn't me!

Makes you wonder where/how those ratbags got your info. Been somewhere new or used it contactless for the first time?

You mentioned the second worse thing after actual loss; the automated systems that either confuse or freak you out (my case both!)

Glad you haven't lost any cash but it's a real pain.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on March 01, 2017, 08:36:36 PM
Sorry about that Mick. It makes you wonder how it happens. About 18 months ago, I used my debit card at a Lidl store, (other discount German stores are available  ;)). Within 2 hours, I had a text from my Bank asking me to ring them. I duly did and was asked if I had used the card at said store, "Yes". I was then asked if it had been used at 2 other places, (on line), "No".  Apparently the third time the 'person', (being polite there  :)), responsible tried to use it, it went over my overdraft limit, so it was flagged, but even then, nearly €500 had gone.  :o. I have to give the Bank their due though, they immediately cancelled my card, which gave me the headaches you have had and I had a replacement sent out the following day. The missing money was refunded to my account within a week.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on March 02, 2017, 12:12:43 AM
Sorry to hear this Mick and I hope you get it sorted soon. I was surprised my bank didn't call me last Friday after I paid the bar bill for my mum's wake as believe me, it wasn't small!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Steamie+ on March 02, 2017, 03:40:42 AM
That is so rubbish to hear Mick, the lowlife is probably a bone idle so and so who just sits behind a laptop or pc putting in numbers all day and getting rich at others hard earned money.

I had my bank account hacked about 4 years ago and £800 took out, i did get my money back but the aggro that goes with it is unreal.

No way should any bank or credit card be able to be hacked nowadays with all the technology that is available today.

Gets me mad to hear stories like yours Mate.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jimbo on March 02, 2017, 10:25:21 AM
Every sympathy Mick....happened to me about a year ago, the fraudsters seemed to take a liking to a sports shop! The bank was excellent in sorting it out though I must admit, they contacted me and alerted me to it, stopped the card and sorted the whole mess out so I wasn't out of pocket and the process was bother free........makes you feel a bit insecure though.........anyhow, this IS the angry thread so.........why won't my bangers sit in the frying pan how I want them to!!!!??!!  :veryangry: STAY UPRIGHT!!!  :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on March 02, 2017, 11:23:16 AM
Is the problem due to round sausages or curved sausages ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on March 02, 2017, 11:47:25 AM
Quote from: escafeld on February 28, 2017, 12:33:02 PM
Its the males at the gym that I go to that think every other word should begin with F or S and that's males of all ages not just youngsters. In fact it is probably the middle age men that are the worst offenders.

That'll be all the Steroids. :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jimbo on March 02, 2017, 12:10:58 PM
Quote from: joe cassidy on March 02, 2017, 11:23:16 AM
Is the problem due to round sausages or curved sausages ?

They're round......and curved! I'll have to get myself one o' them pans with the ridges in so it holds 'em in position! LOL!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 02, 2017, 02:10:07 PM
Quote from: Jimbo on March 02, 2017, 10:25:21 AM
why won't my bangers sit in the frying pan how I want them to!!!!??!!  :veryangry: STAY UPRIGHT!!!  :censored:

You trying to fry them on their ends?? ??? :laugh3:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jimbo on March 02, 2017, 02:21:57 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 02, 2017, 02:10:07 PM
Quote from: Jimbo on March 02, 2017, 10:25:21 AM
why won't my bangers sit in the frying pan how I want them to!!!!??!!  :veryangry: STAY UPRIGHT!!!  :censored:

You trying to fry them on their ends?? ??? :laugh3:

I knew someone would say that!  :uneasy:, they were rolling around and kept going back onto the bit that was already burnt!....Slippery little wotsits! I had to put one against the lip of the pan then prop the others up against it in the end to get the bit done that wasn't cooked... :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 02, 2017, 02:25:05 PM
Sounds like your pan has a wonky base or your cooker does. Suggest you replace both immediately.
KERCHING! ££££££
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jimbo on March 02, 2017, 08:42:04 PM
Wot a wonky world I live in..... :laugh3:...oops!....sorry!... :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on March 03, 2017, 11:34:08 AM

Quote from: joe cassidy on March 02, 2017, 11:23:16 AM
Is the problem due to round sausages or curved sausages ?

MICK, sorry to here about your hacking but glad it is all sorted.

:offtopicsign: But I bought some German sausages here in error, wurst mistake I have made this week.

Also got the UK card hacked a few years back here. The thieves broke into the local supermarket and installed software to hack cards.  Clever **** my card was "used" in Rome and Paris on the same evening!!  HSBC were brilliant.

Jerry
Jerry
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on March 03, 2017, 12:06:34 PM
Quote from: Jimbo on March 02, 2017, 02:21:57 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 02, 2017, 02:10:07 PM
Quote from: Jimbo on March 02, 2017, 10:25:21 AM
why won't my bangers sit in the frying pan how I want them to!!!!??!!  :veryangry: STAY UPRIGHT!!!  :censored:

You trying to fry them on their ends?? ??? :laugh3:

I knew someone would say that!  :uneasy:, they were rolling around and kept going back onto the bit that was already burnt!....Slippery little wotsits! I had to put one against the lip of the pan then prop the others up against it in the end to get the bit done that wasn't cooked... :D

I solved this issue many years ago, or rather MBH did as we strived for a healthier approach to eating our favourite sausages (they being the healthiest, purest form of meat on the planet ;) ). All sausages are now cooked in the oven.

It stops all the spitting and rolling around the troublesome blighters indulge in, they cook evenly, you can stick the timer on and go watch the TV, the cooker hob doesn't get spattered in fat/oil, and you can't here them scream. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 03, 2017, 12:13:43 PM
On the subject of healthy eating I haven't fried anything in years, especially since the triple by pass last year :no:
It's easier and much less messy to grill sausages and bacon, I poach eggs and tomatoes come out of a tin via a saucepan, as do mushrooms. Fried bread is just a no-no :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 03, 2017, 12:35:15 PM
I had the opposite problem with the bank blocking my credit card when I was abroad and bought some airline tickets. Phone them up and before they would speak to me wanted to know things like how many direct debits I had, what was the current balance etc. Since I was in a hotel at the time, the call cost a fortune and was pointless. I had to wait until I could use a PC at work to check my balance etc. They said that it was a popular way to generate cash by booking flights and cancelling them.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ian Bowden on March 03, 2017, 12:47:13 PM
My account was frozen due to suspicious activity. It was a lens cap purchased from China for £1.50
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on March 03, 2017, 12:55:20 PM
Quote from: Ian Bowden on March 03, 2017, 12:47:13 PM
My account was frozen due to suspicious activity. It was a lens cap purchased from China for £1.50

When my card was cloned the issuers said that the first amount is usually a small one to test it without drawing attention to the sale. Bigger purchases follow. But the banks are wise to it now and look for odd transactions like the one you describe.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on March 03, 2017, 11:15:16 PM
I paid for parking at Manchester airport on my debit card, bought something in WHSmiths in the airport, paid for hotel and meal in Holland and on refilling the hire car (that a colleague had paid for) round the corner from Dusseldorf airport had my card declined. Luckily I had a credit card to hand. If I'd been on my own and without a backup card, I'd have been stranded in Germany, unable to pay for fuel that I'd already put in the hire car and late for my flight. It took a long phonecall and a couple of hours before my card was working again  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on March 03, 2017, 11:34:46 PM
Quote from: daffy on March 03, 2017, 12:55:20 PM
Quote from: Ian Bowden on March 03, 2017, 12:47:13 PM
My account was frozen due to suspicious activity. It was a lens cap purchased from China for £1.50

When my card was cloned the issuers said that the first amount is usually a small one to test it without drawing attention to the sale. Bigger purchases follow. But the banks are wise to it now and look for odd transactions like the one you describe.

Which is fine, until you want to buy a £1.50 lens cap from China. :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on March 08, 2017, 12:28:40 PM
Not happy.

Had a little bump in the car last night, smells a little fishy to me...........
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on March 08, 2017, 01:21:46 PM
Because of the plaice where it happened? ;)


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on March 08, 2017, 02:19:12 PM
Cod forbid you haddock bad one Paul. :(. Hope you are not injured.

By fishy, do you mean you think it's one of those insurance fraud attempts? The insurers are pretty good at detecting those these days.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Nick on March 08, 2017, 02:33:45 PM
Quote from: Malc on March 03, 2017, 12:35:15 PM
Phone them up and before they would speak to me wanted to know things like how many direct debits I had, what was the current balance etc.
This drives me insane. One bank is always doing it.
"What's your credit limit?"
"More than I need."
"How much was the last payment you made?"
"No idea - my wife made it."
"What  was the last last purchase you made?
"Er. Petrol. Wait a minute, it was a meal. Oh no, it wasn't.. No idea."

The worst was in a hotel in India, when they refused to let me pay for a perfectly routine two night stay in an extremely reputable hotel. Less than a week after I rang the bank to tell them we were going to India the next weekend... Jeesh...

The desk clerk could see me getting wound up, must have decided I was genuine, and, in the middle of the call, quietly took the card out of my hand and instead of putting through the Chip & PIN machine again, keyed it in to his terminal as "customer not present". It went through without a hitch while the idiot from my bank was telling me that he couldn't possibly talk to me unless I could tell him information that I could only get from a looking at a statement that was back in the UK... Stunned silence. Priceless... :)

Strangely, the card was never refused again in the whole of the trip...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on March 10, 2017, 04:42:19 PM
My Mother at 90+ came to that strange continent that is Europe and Italy...  Last year, she wanted to treat us all to a meal but when she tried to pay with her NAT WEST Maestro card it was blocked. My Sister called them and their response was we can only talk to the card holder on "our contact number for her". That number is my Mothers home number in the UK and strangely at 90+ my Mum doesn't want to have a mobile phone!!!   Oh in that case we can't help you.... Love em!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on March 10, 2017, 05:39:51 PM
Customer service is failing in many areas so I do understand and sympathise..

Poorly trained, if trained at all, staff are given a script and 'rules' that must be adhered to.

We are currently suffering from a second major failure of our landline with no voice and intermittent BB. Plusnet tell us that Openretch have been out to the exchange twice and yet have to fix the problem.

Last year it took 2 weeks and 4 engineers before someone realised a switch was in the wrong position. OR said they couldn't to the flocking as it was a BT job despite the OR guy knowing what to do.

It's been a fair while since I've been so angry.  :veryangry:  :veryangry:

Dave G

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 10, 2017, 08:40:38 PM
I know I shouldn't laugh, Dave, but 'Openretch' did make I giggle :-X
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mito on March 10, 2017, 08:47:47 PM
I've heard that Pratology is a pre-requisite qualification for help-line employees. ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on March 10, 2017, 09:31:44 PM
Don't blame the employees. Blame the employers who employ too few staff, provide inadequate training, and create a working environment that fosters unmotivated, disinterested employees.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Sprintex on March 10, 2017, 09:33:45 PM
Quote from: RailGooner on March 10, 2017, 09:31:44 PM
Don't blame the employees. Blame the employers who employ too few staff, provide inadequate training, and create a working environment that fosters unmotivated, disinterested employees.

Well said :thumbsup:


Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on March 10, 2017, 10:13:22 PM
Modern Customer Service by phone all too often begins with a lengthy introductory recorded message that tells you all you don't really want to know about everything except the problem you have; it continues with "Please choose from the following options...." but not one of the seemingly endless choices appears to cover the particular problem you have; you press '0' when instructed to hear all the options again in case you missed something (your attention wandered the first time due to the flat monotone of the disembodied voice) only to find you were right the first time; so you choose "Please continue to hold if you would like to talk to a Customer Service Advisor"; twenty seven minutes later (after 17 false starts as you are repeatedly told to "Please continue to hold. One of our Customer Service Advisors will be with you soon. Your call is important to us.") a voice says "Hello" - you utter a rejoinder only to find the voice continues regardless "Due to high call volumes we are unable to connect you to one of our Customer Service Advisors at this time. If your call is of an urgent nature please call 0870 1111 2795." The line then goes dead or you are left listening to Johnny One Note's greatest hit. You call 0870 1111 2695 and a real voice answers immediately! Unfortunately in your frustration you dialled the wrong number so apologetically tell the cheerful voice that you don't actually want to place an order for a takeaway.

Against your better judgement, you redial the original 'Customer Service Helpline'.

Three hours later your thoughts turn to murder or ritual suicide.

One day, all Customer Service will be like this. Or has that day come already? :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on March 10, 2017, 10:17:29 PM
 :laughabovepost: so true!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jimbo on March 10, 2017, 10:31:00 PM
Quote from: RailGooner on March 10, 2017, 09:31:44 PM
Don't blame the employees. Blame the employers who employ too few staff, provide inadequate training, and create a working environment that fosters unmotivated, disinterested employees.

Here! Here!

Everything is so 'Tick in the box' these days! If your query/problem doesn't correspond with any of their 'boxes' you've had it!  :veryangry:

I know it's the angry thread.....but we had a cold call quite a while back..."Hello Mr ****, how are you today?"......"I'm okay thank you, are you selling anything?"....."No not at all blah blah blah...."......."Oh, so you called just to see how I am then!?!?"...........Silence.........click!......dial tone....... :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on March 10, 2017, 11:13:55 PM
Quote from: daffy on March 10, 2017, 10:13:22 PM
Modern Customer Service by phone all too often begins with a lengthy introductory recorded message that tells you all you don't really want to know about everything except the problem you have; it continues with "Please choose from the following options...." but not one of the seemingly endless choices appears to cover the particular problem you have; you press '0' when instructed to hear all the options again in case you missed something (your attention wandered the first time due to the flat monotone of the disembodied voice) only to find you were right the first time; so you choose "Please continue to hold if you would like to talk to a Customer Service Advisor"; twenty seven minutes later (after 17 false starts as you are repeatedly told to "Please continue to hold. One of our Customer Service Advisors will be with you soon. Your call is important to us.") a voice says "Hello" - you utter a rejoinder only to find the voice continues regardless "Due to high call volumes we are unable to connect you to one of our Customer Service Advisors at this time. If your call is of an urgent nature please call 0870 1111 2795." The line then goes dead or you are left listening to Johnny One Note's greatest hit. You call 0870 1111 2695 and a real voice answers immediately! Unfortunately in your frustration you dialled the wrong number so apologetically tell the cheerful voice that you don't actually want to place an order for a takeaway.

Against your better judgement, you redial the original 'Customer Service Helpline'.

Three hours later your thoughts turn to murder or ritual suicide.

One day, all Customer Service will be like this. Or has that day come already? :hmmm:

And those Automated Call Handling Systems serve to mask the fact that there are only three folk operating as Customer Service Advisors.

The first of those Advisors is training the second. The third is the :censored:-wit of a manager, who is so ineffective as a manager that he's rostered on too few folk (again) and so has to man a phone himself.

The first two Advisors are understandably stressed and disheartened - they were originally rostered off today, but as they knocked off yesterday found that the roster had changed, again. But they are professionals and humans, so they try to suppress all that.

Meanwhile I, as the caller, am getting increasingly frustrated by the one-way conversation with the infernal Automated Call Handling System. :veryangry:

Don't worry, I'm not going to insist that every Customer Service Advisor is an :angel: . But thankfully the >:D Advisor is IMHO the exception.

But those :censored: so-called managers. :veryangry: Don't start me. Especially those :censored: Carillion so-called managers. :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Steamie+ on March 11, 2017, 02:25:07 AM
IMO it's the way it is nowadays, i think even when you get through they don't have the knowledge to the question you want answering so you are put on hold while they have a chat amongst themselves about anything it seems  :sleep:, (are we out tonight, did you get that from the shop) they they come back to you with i am sorry i can't help you with that at this moment but i can give you a number that may be able to help you with it... oh heck here we go again.    :sleep: :sleep:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on March 11, 2017, 07:11:21 AM
Cheers, Mick!  :wave:

Saturday morning and we still don't have a working phone but at least the internet is currently working.

Our main worry is that we have elderly relatives who are some distance away and call us regularly. OK we can call them on the almost as flakey mobile but if they need us, or just want a chat, they pay through the nose if they call mobiles.

Another interesting point came up on our second call to Plusnet. Given 2 choices at the start of the call by the automated system; 1, Accounts or 2, Something not working.

Opted for Option 2 and waited 27 minutes to get through. I asked for a progress report on the 'repair' to be told "You need to speak with Tech Support. When I groaned and asked did that mean another wait, "Oh no. They're not as busy as we are." Why isn't there an option to go straight to Tech Support?  A chat with Hanna in TP, who was charming, got us no where.

Aaaaargh!

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 11, 2017, 03:50:12 PM
Everyone seems to have forgotten the interruption of the dire musak every 10 seconds with "Thank you for your patience. Your call is important to us"

Well - if it's that  :censored: important then employ more people!!! :veryangry:

Oh, and never, ever, try and call such numbers between 12 noon and 2p.m. 'cos they've all got their feet up having lunch.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on March 11, 2017, 04:30:35 PM
Agreed. And why is that the musak is always distorted to inflict maximum discomfort while you're waiting?
:doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on March 11, 2017, 05:34:43 PM
Just for you @newportnobby (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) and @austinbob (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2403) while you are waiting .......



I love the ending.  :thumbsup: So familiar and yet so unexpected. ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jon898 on March 11, 2017, 06:52:27 PM
Quote from: austinbob on March 11, 2017, 04:30:35 PM
Agreed. And why is that the musak is always distorted to inflict maximum discomfort while you're waiting?
:doh:

I'm surprised that more of them do not use the strategy I was exposed to about 20 years ago on a video game developer's customer service line where the "hold" music was an electronic version of "The Flight Of The Bumblebee", sped up to 50% faster and played at 4x volume...I think I lasted all of 45 seconds.  Even then, my shoulders were already somewhere up around the level of my ears.  I guess it did save them some employment costs  :doh:

Jon
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on March 11, 2017, 07:10:18 PM
Quote from: Jon898 on March 11, 2017, 06:52:27 PM
Quote from: austinbob on March 11, 2017, 04:30:35 PM
Agreed. And why is that the musak is always distorted to inflict maximum discomfort while you're waiting?
:doh:

I'm surprised that more of them do not use the strategy I was exposed to about 20 years ago on a video game developer's customer service line where the "hold" music was an electronic version of "The Flight Of The Bumblebee", sped up to 50% faster and played at 4x volume...I think I lasted all of 45 seconds.  Even then, my shoulders were already somewhere up around the level of my ears.  I guess it did save them some employment costs  :doh:

Jon

I like this idea. :thumbsup:
Now, all I have to do is work out how I can have it automatically play on my Ansaphone when unwanted unsolicited calls come in, but keep my nice answer message for friends and family. :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ozzie Bill. on March 17, 2017, 11:51:36 PM
Probably belongs in a "frustrated/disgusted/furious" thread, but here goes anyway.
One of my daughters has been tracked by a sexual predator who has now got our home address. He rings her at work and asks about what underwear she is wearing and revolting other personal questions.
The police are being fantastic, taking it seriously and doing all they can to trace this  :censored:, but it doesn't detract from the fear she is living in and the anger and disgust and hatred that I am feeling.
Not looking for advice, thanks, just really wanted to vent. Thanks for listening. Bill.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 18, 2017, 03:35:11 AM
I wouldn't know what advice to give anyway, Bill, but that must be awful for your daughter and I hope the authorities do manage to catch the  :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on March 18, 2017, 06:41:50 AM
Went to tax our 'other' car online this morning after the winter lay-up. It needs a new MoT very soon.

Got to the end of the process and put the payment info in to be advised:

A technical error has occurred
Sorry, there has been a technical problem during the payment process, we are working to resolve it

What will happen next

If your payment was successful and you provided an email address, confirmation will be sent showing your vehicle has been taxed for the period requested. You should check with your bank whether payment has been taken.

You must ensure your vehicle is taxed. If you do not receive an email, or have not provided an email address then you should check if the transaction has been successful on the Vehicle Enquiry Service (VES). Please note the online checking service does not update immediately, continue to check this service over the next 5 days.


So, the planned trip in the car this weekend is cancelled and I can't book an MoT until I know for sure the darned thing is taxed. I have to keep checking for the next 5 days??!!   :veryangry:

Technology! Bah! :censored:

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Steamie+ on March 18, 2017, 07:37:12 AM
Quote from: ozzie Bill. on March 17, 2017, 11:51:36 PM
Probably belongs in a "frustrated/disgusted/furious" thread, but here goes anyway.
One of my daughters has been tracked by a sexual predator who has now got our home address. He rings her at work and asks about what underwear she is wearing and revolting other personal questions.
The police are being fantastic, taking it seriously and doing all they can to trace this  :censored:, but it doesn't detract from the fear she is living in and the anger and disgust and hatred that I am feeling.
Not looking for advice, thanks, just really wanted to vent. Thanks for listening. Bill.

Hi Bill, there is a unit called CPR V2000 Call Blocker selling over here, it automatically blocks 200 spam callers and if you get a number you don't know you can block it for good, even if it's a caller withheld.     :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on March 18, 2017, 08:38:11 AM
BT now have BT call protect which uses a similar but larger database to block nuisance calls. It also has a facility for adding calls to your own personal black list by calling 1572 and going through the menu options to add number to the black list.
Any blocked calls are routed to a junk voicemail so the caller can leave a message - just in case its a real number. So far, out of 60 odd nuisance calls I've had, none have left a message. We used to get nuisance calls two or three times a day, now we rarely get one.
Call protect is free to BT infinity users and I think it costs a small amount for other BT customers.
and - no - I don't work for BT!!

http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/products/phone/call-protect/?s_cid=con_ppc_maxus_vidZ60_T1&vendorid=Z60&gclid=CjwKEAjwtbPGBRDhoLaqn6HknWsSJABR-o5sCDtUSq90IwtC993LnAmAjWUNOa1_Md9Z0ciZMcrrchoC0aHw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=COXDspTT39ICFZAD0wodWZENkw (http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/products/phone/call-protect/?s_cid=con_ppc_maxus_vidZ60_T1&vendorid=Z60&gclid=CjwKEAjwtbPGBRDhoLaqn6HknWsSJABR-o5sCDtUSq90IwtC993LnAmAjWUNOa1_Md9Z0ciZMcrrchoC0aHw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=COXDspTT39ICFZAD0wodWZENkw)

Hope this helps -  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 18, 2017, 08:52:47 AM
Unfortunately all this has happened, and, like Mick, I really don't know what to say here, except that the police here in Australia are usually right on top of situations like this,.

It must be awful.

All the best to you and your daughter, Bill.

George
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Nick on March 18, 2017, 09:21:32 AM
Quote from: daveg on March 18, 2017, 06:41:50 AM
So, the planned trip in the car this weekend is cancelled and I can't book an MoT until I know for sure the darned thing is taxed. I have to keep checking for the next 5 days??!!   :veryangry:

Hi Dave,

It doesn't help with the weekend trip, but, assuming your "other" car is simply SORN'ed in the usual way, my understanding is that it can be driven to and from a pre-booked MOT appointment without being taxed. It needs to be insured as normal, as far as I know.

This gov.uk (https://www.gov.uk/sorn-statutory-off-road-notification) page gives the details, down at the bottom of the page.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Nick on March 18, 2017, 09:26:21 AM
Quote from: austinbob on March 18, 2017, 08:38:11 AM
We used to get nuisance calls two or three times a day, now we rarely get one.
Call protect is free to BT infinity users and I think it costs a small amount for other BT customers.
and - no - I don't work for BT!!
Call Protect is free for all BT customers, and my experience is like yours - it works like a charm. The odd call still gets through, most of which can then be blocked in future, but compared to what we had before, it's bliss.

(Declaration of Interest - I used to work for BT, but it's a long time ago now, so I can admit it...  :D )
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scottmitchell74 on March 18, 2017, 06:29:45 PM
I'm sick to my stomach. I put off buying Dapol for years, but then thought I was being silly, it's only the rare bad experience that you hear about, not the hundreds of good ones.

Well, I'm a fool. I excitedly bought two: A Class 58 and a Class 52. Running them in per instructions, the 52 is noisy, a bit wobbly, but seems fine. I was willing to deal with the slight wobble as just one of those things.
However...

Less than three minutes into the Class 58 (Which is gorgeous, but the way, which makes this hurt more) it starts sputtering...and smoking! Smoke pouring out. Dozens of Life-Like, Kato, Atlas, even Bachmann with no such problems...but two Dapols, two problems.

I live TOO FAR away for this to happen. Funny that this happened right after the old Dapol announcement bomb and the Dapol Haters Club thread made me nervous. But I tried to be positive and figure these things are rare. Well, I got nailed.

So, anyhow, right when I had just decided to dive head first into British outline...I don't know if I can handle that kind of stress.  :censored: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ChrisWV10 on March 18, 2017, 06:52:29 PM
Sorry to hear that Scott. My experience of Dapol diesels has been mostly good (22, 52 similar to yours but acceptable, 2 x 58s, 2 x67s, 2 x 66s, 2 x HSTs) even 2 older 73s (pre dcc ready) run OKish but they don't need a sound decoder, they make enough noise to pass without one  :-X I have had a DOA 66, a couple of awful M7s and my B17 has put me off the rest of their tender steamers. The pannier tanks are nice tho'  :thumbsup:

For good running try Farish 24, 37, 42 and 66. If you're not completely put off, try a Dapol 22 or 67.

C. :)





Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mr bachmann on March 18, 2017, 06:54:21 PM
Quote from: daveg on March 18, 2017, 06:41:50 AM
Went to tax our 'other' car online this morning after the winter lay-up. It needs a new MoT very soon.
So, the planned trip in the car this weekend is cancelled and I can't book an MoT until I know for sure the darned thing is taxed. I have to keep checking for the next 5 days??!!   :veryangry:
Dave G

heres a link to DVLA check yours (and the neighbors  :D )

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj72JfG2-DSAhVnCMAKHazOB5IQFggaMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gov.uk%2Fcheck-vehicle-tax&usg=AFQjCNHfRlD8n1Aw4Babpxnp8nUmrMO_rw&sig2=mzyRiC3BWp_SmjH91TBW9A (https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj72JfG2-DSAhVnCMAKHazOB5IQFggaMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gov.uk%2Fcheck-vehicle-tax&usg=AFQjCNHfRlD8n1Aw4Babpxnp8nUmrMO_rw&sig2=mzyRiC3BWp_SmjH91TBW9A)

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj72JfG2-DSAhVnCMAKHazOB5IQFgghMAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gov.uk%2Fcheck-mot-status&usg=AFQjCNHU11S96F4wHBoFjJ5aCza5TXfyYA&sig2=W36x2P93XCxSxYA5V2JVcw (https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj72JfG2-DSAhVnCMAKHazOB5IQFgghMAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gov.uk%2Fcheck-mot-status&usg=AFQjCNHU11S96F4wHBoFjJ5aCza5TXfyYA&sig2=W36x2P93XCxSxYA5V2JVcw)

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Steamie+ on March 19, 2017, 05:17:58 AM
I am having a similar problem Herzel, only i put a bid in and won a H&M controller, paid for it last Thursday, got a email to say it is being posted, got another one yesterday from the guy i paid it to and he said sorry i have not been able to post it yet, COME ON, if you sell on the flipping bay GET the item posted has soon has you get your MONEY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on March 20, 2017, 02:31:24 PM
Jen (Thomas and Emilys mum) Has thrown Mark (their dad) out of the house and demanding we go and "remove him"
from her  :o (???) property.
She has already made Mark go and get a flat for himself  :censored:. Saturday she struck Mark with a kiddies pram and now the police are involved.  :veryangry:
She has gone away with the fairies again for the 3rd time this year.
Its all going to end in tears :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 20, 2017, 03:00:47 PM
Sorry, Jon, but I feel we shouldn't pass comment as, invariably, there is more than one side to the equation. It's an awful situation but it seems Mark is old enough to realise he needs legal advice.
Obviously this not good for you and I hope a resolution is found very soon as your concentration should be focused on your own health.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on March 20, 2017, 03:25:25 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 20, 2017, 03:00:47 PM
Sorry, Jon, but I feel we shouldn't pass comment as, invariably, there is more than one side to the equation. It's an awful situation but it seems Mark is old enough to realise he needs legal advice.
Obviously this not good for you and I hope a resolution is found very soon as your concentration should be focused on your own health.
No problem NPN I just need to "vent steam" before   getting on with my life  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on March 20, 2017, 03:27:30 PM
QuotePretty miffed today about an ebay / online click-and-brick outfit: Spiratronics.
T'is why in only deal with the larger established suppliers these days ,there also often cheaper.your pots are 50p cheaper at cpc,spend over £5 an its  free p+P.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 20, 2017, 03:31:31 PM
Quote from: jonclox on March 20, 2017, 03:25:25 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 20, 2017, 03:00:47 PM
Sorry, Jon, but I feel we shouldn't pass comment as, invariably, there is more than one side to the equation. It's an awful situation but it seems Mark is old enough to realise he needs legal advice.
Obviously this not good for you and I hope a resolution is found very soon as your concentration should be focused on your own health.
No problem NPN I just need to "vent steam" before   getting on with my life  >:D

Better vented than bottled up, Jon ;)
My excuse for being 'windy' :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scottmitchell74 on March 20, 2017, 08:43:42 PM
So my Dapol EWS Class 58 that started smoking two minutes into its life...Modelrailwaysdirect is instantly pawning me off to DCC Supplies instead of offering a refund...and I'm on the hook for shipping it back across the Atlantic!! T

This rant and the mega-thread about Dapol's latest happenings makes me think being a British-image modeler "over-seas" might not be in my best interest.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on March 20, 2017, 08:51:04 PM
Quote..Modelrailwaysdirect is instantly pawning me off to DCC Supplies instead of offering a refund
point them in the direction of  the consumer rights act.
http://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/advice/how-to-get-a-faulty-product-replaced-or-repaired (http://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/advice/how-to-get-a-faulty-product-replaced-or-repaired)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on March 20, 2017, 09:06:50 PM
Does that apply if it was bought abroad?
:beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scottmitchell74 on March 20, 2017, 09:10:28 PM
Well, now as a "courtesy" they're offering a refund...but I have to ship it back and that costs $22.50!!

I'm so frustrated right now. British N-Gauge (something I've dreamed about for years now) may just be too risky. Be on the lookout for some great deals!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on March 20, 2017, 10:34:12 PM
That's really tough but I guess you'd need to return anything faulty back to the supplier and it's a darned shame you are having to pay so much

Is there any chance you can get MRD to cover some if not all of the return costs?

Appreciate the trouble is more than disappointing but hope that you carry on with your British N gauge modelling.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scottmitchell74 on March 20, 2017, 10:57:23 PM
daveg

I'm working on them right now (although it's bedtime for them now). I'm hoping we can work something out.

I really don't know what to think. Policies are policies, but having to shell out that much money to return something that was BRAND NEW is hard to stomach.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on March 21, 2017, 12:41:46 AM
On 3rd March I ordered an item and accessories from a retailer via ebay. The accessories arrived on 14th, but not the item. On checking the tracking information, it show that two packages were sent and confirms that one was delivered. As the 2nd package has not arrived, I put in a claim a couple of hours ago and stated in the claim that two packages were sent but only one received. An acknowledgement was received from ebay at 10.57pm. At 11.16pm, (19 minutes later), I get an email stating that the case has been closed. Reason - I am not getting a refund as the item is shown as delivered!!  :censored:. Is the system so automated that there is no one there to read what I had put in the claim, ie only 1 of 2 packages received  ???. I can appeal, but as I live in Ireland, I have to ring them - before 10pm - aaargh!  :censored:. So I have now gone direct to PayPal to submit a claim - we will see what happens next.  Ask me if I am annoyed.  :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry: :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Steamie+ on March 21, 2017, 05:48:51 AM
Quote from: escafeld on March 20, 2017, 11:23:43 PM
Quote from: scottmitchell74 on March 20, 2017, 10:57:23 PM
daveg

I'm working on them right now (although it's bedtime for them now). I'm hoping we can work something out.

I really don't know what to think. Policies are policies, but having to shell out that much money to return something that was BRAND NEW is hard to stomach.

The Model Railways Direct website states that there terms and conditions does not affect your statutory rights under the 2015 Consumer Rights Act 



Under the consumer Rights Act 2015 Section 9 Paragraph  3e durability - this condition has not been met as the locomotive failed

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/15/section/9 (http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/15/section/9)   

Then Under section 19 - Consumer's rights to enforce terms about goods Paragraph 3a you have the short term right to reject the goods

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/15/section/19/enacted (http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/15/section/19/enacted)

Then under section 20  Paragraph 7a states you get a refund and 8 states the trader must bear the cost of returning the goods

Paragraph 7 states   
" (7)    From the time when the right is exercised—
        (a)    the trader has a duty to give the consumer a refund, subject to subsection (18), and
        (b)    the consumer has a duty to make the goods available for collection by the trader or (if there is an agreement for the consumer to return rejected goods) to return them as agreed."
Paragraph 8 states

"(8)     Whether or not the consumer has a duty to return the rejected goods, the trader must bear any reasonable costs of returning them, other than any costs incurred by the consumer in returning the goods in person to the place where the consumer took physical possession of them."

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/15/section/20/enacted (http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/15/section/20/enacted))
 

So to decipher this

1. You will need to inform MRD that you are rejecting the goods under the Consumer Rights Act 2015
2. Tell them that it is under Section 9 paragraph 3e durability as the locomotive failed
3. Section 20 paragraph 7a states you will get a full refund
4. Section 20 paragraph 8 the trader (MRD) will have to pay the return postage


Hope this of some help

That is a brilliant bit of help to a member who really wants to do British N Gauge, these shops and companies think we just have to accept what ever they say.

By the way Scograil in Norwich are a very good shop to deal with, i had an item fail on me, not RTR, but a very expensive bit of kit costing over £350 and they sent out a new one next day and even got the courier to pick the faulty on up free of charge.

Hope you get it sorted Scott.   Happy British N Gauge Modelling    :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scottmitchell74 on March 21, 2017, 11:25:05 AM
Quote from: Steamie+ on March 21, 2017, 05:48:51 AM
Quote from: escafeld on March 20, 2017, 11:23:43 PM
Quote from: scottmitchell74 on March 20, 2017, 10:57:23 PM
daveg

I'm working on them right now (although it's bedtime for them now). I'm hoping we can work something out.

I really don't know what to think. Policies are policies, but having to shell out that much money to return something that was BRAND NEW is hard to stomach.

The Model Railways Direct website states that there terms and conditions does not affect your statutory rights under the 2015 Consumer Rights Act 



Under the consumer Rights Act 2015 Section 9 Paragraph  3e durability - this condition has not been met as the locomotive failed


That is a brilliant bit of help to a member who really wants to do British N Gauge, these shops and companies think we just have to accept what ever they say.

By the way Scograil in Norwich are a very good shop to deal with, i had an item fail on me, not RTR, but a very expensive bit of kit costing over £350 and they sent out a new one next day and even got the courier to pick the faulty on cup free of charge.

Hope you get it sorted Scott.   Happy British N Gauge Modelling    :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Thanks, Steamie. I can't thank @escafeld (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5876) enough. I sent MRD and DCC Supplies an email (after sleeping on it and calming down) simply stating my wishes and showing them chapter and verse where UK law agrees with me. Thank you, thank you! Now the ball is in their court, we'll see what happens.

I do want to continue with my attempts with British N Gauge. I've already invested enough that it would be a major pain to scrap the whole thing.

:NGaugersRule: :thankyousign:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ian Bowden on March 21, 2017, 12:22:21 PM
I am waiting again for the gas meter to be changed at the theatre. This time no excuses and lies just nothing. 18 hours wasted waiting so far. The gas supplier has been helpful but doesn't know what is happening as its British Gas who are subcontracting to install the meter. The only good thing is I have been reading a lot more of this forum.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Steamie+ on March 22, 2017, 05:20:41 AM
Quote from: Ian Bowden on March 21, 2017, 12:22:21 PM
I am waiting again for the gas meter to be changed at the theatre. This time no excuses and lies just nothing. 18 hours wasted waiting so far. The gas supplier has been helpful but doesn't know what is happening as its British Gas who are subcontracting to install the meter. The only good thing is I have been reading a lot more of this forum.

Best read on the web Ian.

British Gas say no more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DELETED on April 06, 2017, 12:37:35 AM
It has taken me a little more than 2 years to get away from Halifax / Bank of Scotland for my morgage -which for varoius reasons were truly awful, my payment insurance when I was out of work was found to be useless and the Ombudsaman gave up my case after 12 months because it was such a bad company and their investigations were getting nowhere themselves.

I had the chance to change recently and went to Nationwide on good rep from the others in our office and it's been nothing but hassle for me so far.  First meeting -discussed the plan over next few years, agreed numbers etc etc.  Next meeting a few days later they've pulled that plan at no notice -all the numbers now are different and less in my favour.  Still good enough to cick-off process but they allocated a naff solicitor and surveyor I had problems with 12 months ago when I though I would have to sell through Your Move as I was out of work and down to last few pennies but they were not very good at all.  So I asked for a new solicitor this time and the new one seems pretty dire.  Naff surveyor came and went again (I hate putting new business after bad but at least it was the same guy and I expect an evaluation no less than my home report 12 months ago -they wouldn't change surveyor).

...I'm still trying to get what should have been a few days of work into place weeks later.  I thought Nationwide were OK and had a reasonable rep.  They're naff so-far, I just hope I don't have to go through it all again with someone else -it's just way too much hassle than it should be so far!!!!

I HATE this, I went with Nationwide on good reputation -but this process is a complete pain in the proverbial.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Steamie+ on April 06, 2017, 04:41:37 AM
Sorry to hear about your situation RST, so glad i don't have a mortgage now. You must be able to get some recourse for you payment plan even if the Ombudsman give up because it was a bad company, they are government backed aren't they, write to your local MP and get him/her involved, you have nothing to lose but everything to gain. Give it a go, i know it's hard i have been there in the past when i got made redundant for the 2nd time and found it very hard to find work, i wrote to my local MP had she got things moving pretty fast.

Steamie+
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on April 07, 2017, 02:27:04 PM
 >:D iron tablets  that are 'ripping' my insides to shreds  (it seems)  :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 07, 2017, 02:52:42 PM
Quote from: jonclox on April 07, 2017, 02:27:04 PM
>:D iron tablets  that are 'ripping' my insides to shreds  (it seems)  :worried:

I have been on Ferrous Fumarate for a month now as a blood test showed I have an iron count of 11 whereas the lowest permitted level is 20. My female relatives all told me I'd be constipated but that hasn't been the case, although I think I could do with sewing up each time 'I've been'
I bet y'all wanted to hear that, eh? :laugh3:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on April 07, 2017, 03:04:43 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 07, 2017, 02:52:42 PM
Quote from: jonclox on April 07, 2017, 02:27:04 PM
>:D iron tablets  that are 'ripping' my insides to shreds  (it seems)  :worried:

I have been on Ferrous Fumarate for a month now as a blood test showed I have an iron count of 11 whereas the lowest permitted level is 20. My female relatives all told me I'd be constipated but that hasn't been the case, although I think I could do with sewing up each time 'I've been'
I bet y'all wanted to hear that, eh? :laugh3:

:o

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on April 07, 2017, 03:46:20 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 07, 2017, 02:52:42 PM
Quote from: jonclox on April 07, 2017, 02:27:04 PM
>:D iron tablets  that are 'ripping' my insides to shreds  (it seems)  :worried:

I have been on Ferrous Fumarate for a month now as a blood test showed I have an iron count of 11 whereas the lowest permitted level is 20. My female relatives all told me I'd be constipated but that hasn't been the case, although I think I could do with sewing up each time 'I've been'
I bet y'all wanted to hear that, eh? :laugh3:

To make a similar plea to one you often make here yourself Mick, though with one important difference:

NO photos please! :no:

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Steamie+ on April 07, 2017, 03:48:55 PM
 :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 07, 2017, 04:14:54 PM
Quote from: daffy on April 07, 2017, 03:46:20 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 07, 2017, 02:52:42 PM
Quote from: jonclox on April 07, 2017, 02:27:04 PM
>:D iron tablets  that are 'ripping' my insides to shreds  (it seems)  :worried:

I have been on Ferrous Fumarate for a month now as a blood test showed I have an iron count of 11 whereas the lowest permitted level is 20. My female relatives all told me I'd be constipated but that hasn't been the case, although I think I could do with sewing up each time 'I've been'
I bet y'all wanted to hear that, eh? :laugh3:

To make a similar plea to one you often make here yourself Mick, though with one important difference:

NO photos please! :no:

You're extremely lucky. I don't have a wide angle lens :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jonclox on April 07, 2017, 04:31:52 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 07, 2017, 02:52:42 PM
Quote from: jonclox on April 07, 2017, 02:27:04 PM
>:D iron tablets  that are 'ripping' my insides to shreds  (it seems)  :worried:

My female relatives all told me I'd be constipated but that hasn't been the case, although I think I could do with sewing up each time 'I've been'
I bet y'all wanted to hear that, eh? :laugh3:
Oh great  ::)  :doh:  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on April 07, 2017, 06:10:09 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on March 21, 2017, 12:41:46 AM
On 3rd March I ordered an item and accessories from a retailer via ebay. The accessories arrived on 14th, but not the item. On checking the tracking information, it show that two packages were sent and confirms that one was delivered. As the 2nd package has not arrived, I put in a claim a couple of hours ago and stated in the claim that two packages were sent but only one received. An acknowledgement was received from ebay at 10.57pm. At 11.16pm, (19 minutes later), I get an email stating that the case has been closed. Reason - I am not getting a refund as the item is shown as delivered!!  :censored:. Is the system so automated that there is no one there to read what I had put in the claim, ie only 1 of 2 packages received  ???. I can appeal, but as I live in Ireland, I have to ring them - before 10pm - aaargh!  :censored:. So I have now gone direct to PayPal to submit a claim - we will see what happens next.  Ask me if I am annoyed.  :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry: :censored:

Good news at last - Paypal have finally refunded every penny.  :thumbsup:. I still have the accessories, (only cost about a fiver), and if they ask for them back, they can gladly have them. If they don't ask ........... I suppose we could call it compensation  ???  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zopadooper on April 08, 2017, 12:31:53 PM
or possibly theft!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on April 08, 2017, 12:50:18 PM
I've been having a few issues with PayPal here meself in Australia......

What happened to gannin down to a shop, eh.  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on April 08, 2017, 02:42:53 PM
Quote from: Bealman on April 08, 2017, 12:50:18 PM

What happened to gannin down to a shop, eh.  ;)

I still gan when I can, but ......... :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on April 08, 2017, 06:30:58 PM
Quote from: zopadooper on April 08, 2017, 12:31:53 PM
or possibly theft!!

No, I am on safe ground there. Part of the definition of theft, (Theft Act 1968 Sec. 1), states "with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it". As I said, "and if they ask for them back, they can gladly have them" - and I said that on a publicly accessible forum.  :P. Notwithstanding I did not "dishonestly appropriate" them in the first place.  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Steamie+ on April 08, 2017, 08:06:23 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on April 08, 2017, 06:30:58 PM
Quote from: zopadooper on April 08, 2017, 12:31:53 PM
or possibly theft!!

No, I am on safe ground there. Part of the definition of theft, (Theft Act 1968 Sec. 1), states "with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it". As I said, "and if they ask for them back, they can gladly have them" - and I said that on a publicly accessible forum.  :P. Notwithstanding I did not "dishonestly appropriate" them in the first place.  :)

Great to hear that, about time somebody had something that eBay should be paying themselves, that's why a don't tend to buy from them if i can help it.          :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: njee20 on April 09, 2017, 03:36:36 AM
Did you contact the seller first? Or just go straight to submitting a case?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on April 09, 2017, 12:36:04 PM
Quote from: njee20 on April 09, 2017, 03:36:36 AM
Did you contact the seller first? Or just go straight to submitting a case?
@njee20 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1147)
Got no reply to an email to the seller, so submitted a claim. As I said earlier, two packages were sent but only one received. Ebay obviously did not read my comments as, as far as they were concerned, a package had been received, so claim dismissed  :veryangry:. I then put a claim in to Paypal and they did read everything. No reply was received from the seller after the designated waiting time, so they refunded in full - one happy bunny!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tom U on April 09, 2017, 02:16:52 PM
Quote from: zopadooper on April 08, 2017, 12:31:53 PM
or possibly theft!!

That was unnecessary.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on April 10, 2017, 08:59:38 AM
Last night a house alarm was going off in our road rather than risk going round in the dark to see what was going on I rang the police non emergency number only to be told to ring he enviromental dept this at nine oclock at night.
WHAT ARE THE POLICE THERE FOR while I didnt expect a car to come with lights and sirens going ,I did think they would have sent someone round to have a look.
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on April 10, 2017, 09:24:01 AM
Quote from: Bob Tidbury on April 10, 2017, 08:59:38 AM
Last night a house alarm was going off in our road rather than risk going round in the dark to see what was going on I rang the police non emergency number only to be told to ring he enviromental dept this at nine oclock at night.
WHAT ARE THE POLICE THERE FOR while I didnt expect a car to come with lights and sirens going ,I did think they would have sent someone round to have a look.
Bob Tidbury

Police don't respond to house alarms, unless the alarm company has paid them to do it.  They treat them as a noise nuisance.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Big bad John on April 10, 2017, 09:26:10 AM
It's like that around here Bob the old Bill won't go anywhere near a crime scene or potential one until they know everyone has gone unless it's a traffic offence then loads of them appear as if by magic.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 10, 2017, 09:38:24 AM
What the heck is this doing in 'Product Reviews'? ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Big bad John on April 10, 2017, 09:43:36 AM
 :o
I dunno! He started it, that bloke Bob  :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on April 10, 2017, 09:48:29 AM
Well I put in Angry Thread and this is where it popped up .You know me and computers ,I havent got a clue.
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Big bad John on April 10, 2017, 10:05:13 AM
Don't say anything until the police arrive Bob!  :-X
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 10, 2017, 10:21:06 AM
I reckon you're guilty of starting another 'Angry Thread', Bob and, as such, I have asked the full force of the forum police be brought against you. I've no idea what the punishment is but I have requested Tank wears a black cap when dishing it out. >:D
Even Norman Stanley Fletcher did not commit such a serious crime.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on April 10, 2017, 10:26:50 AM
Merged the threads together.  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Big bad John on April 10, 2017, 11:02:18 AM
Oh dear It looks like you got yourself a criminal record now Bob  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on April 10, 2017, 11:10:03 AM
I've got Regatta de blanc by the Police. Does that count?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Big bad John on April 10, 2017, 11:16:22 AM
Quote from: Malc on April 10, 2017, 11:10:03 AM
I've got Regatta de blanc by the Police. Does that count?

Always a Sting when the police get involved.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 10, 2017, 11:17:50 AM
Quote from: Malc on April 10, 2017, 11:10:03 AM
I've got Regatta de blanc by the Police. Does that count?

I'll trump your white Regatta with the Fine Young CannCriminals :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Big bad John on April 10, 2017, 11:22:12 AM
My mother had a few criminal records most of them by Max Bygraves
:smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on April 10, 2017, 01:26:46 PM
 :laughabovepost: Now I really do know that you're all bonkers!  :laugh:

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on April 10, 2017, 01:31:48 PM
 :sorrysign: I will stand in the noughty corner and then write out one hundred lines ,
I WILL TRY AND POST THINGS IN THE RIGHT THREAD IN FUTURE.
Will that be enough punishment?
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: broadsword on April 10, 2017, 01:37:10 PM
Any more mention of Sting or the Police and I'll open
an "Incandescent with rage " thread .....da da da da da
:veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: broadsword on April 10, 2017, 02:01:24 PM
AAAAAAAAARGH !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TylerB on April 11, 2017, 10:43:38 AM
I'm not going to name and shame, but I've had a long running issue with a model railway supplier over an incomplete, and then a damaged, delivery. They are making efforts to get more replacement parts out to me, but its just infuriating! And what's more, their correspondence on the matter, when they actually reply,  is terse and abrupt, to say the least.  >:(

I wish companies would realise that sometimes good communication and an apology is just as important as putting the problem right. Suppliers out there please note!!!

I know a lot of companies in the modelling world are little more than one man bands but I deal with bad service all day long in my day job so when I'm hobbying I just want to have a happy and enjoyable experience - having to constantly chase things up drains all the pleasure out of it for me.

Rant over...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on April 11, 2017, 03:32:31 PM
Leaving aside any argument about the pros or cons of a paid for TV licence, what has actually made me a bit cross is the automated e-Mail reminder I got today informing me:

"You've just days left to renew your TV licence"

No I haven't.

It expires at the end of this month, which to most sensible people means I actually have "weeks" to renew my licence.

Are these beurocrats telling me their shiny, fancy, ever-so-clever and conviniant online system needs over two weeks to process a payment? Or do they need the cash so bad? Honestly think those a bit more vulnerable could be spooked by language like that.

Skyline2uk 

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 11, 2017, 03:47:03 PM
They love early payment as they get the interest on it. Let's face it, why should you get interest on your money (not that that's feasible nowadays)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on April 11, 2017, 07:16:53 PM
Interest??? What's that?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on April 11, 2017, 07:22:02 PM
Its what the bank manager shows on their face if you want to invest money.  Ohhhh... Yeah
:)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 11, 2017, 08:45:54 PM
Yeah - and they keep texting me advising me to top up my ISA.
What for? ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on April 12, 2017, 10:33:08 AM
I got interest when I saved my money under the mattress.

My wife found it and said, "That has lots of interest". :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on April 13, 2017, 12:01:08 PM
Quote from: escafeld on April 13, 2017, 11:55:52 AM
Old men and supermarket trolleys

Why do old men think it is acceptable to ram a trolley into the heel of the person in front of them and walk on as if nothing has happened? This is the second time recently this has happened to me (different old man). I couldn't go any faster otherwise I would have rammed my trolley into the person in front of me.

Very painful experience at the supermarket and that was before I got to the checkout.

When they were younger this is the sort that would have pinched your bottom.  Some people don't change.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 13, 2017, 12:05:35 PM
I feel your pain (although, it has to be said, this is not limited to just old men).
Wait till you're at a model railway show and get rammed by someone on a mobility scooter! :ouch:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on April 13, 2017, 12:20:55 PM
Just to address the balance a little, why do women think it is acceptable to ram a pushchair into the heel of the person in front of them and then walk on as if nothing has happened?

It's not about gender or age or intelligence or what-you-will, it's about some folks just being.........  well, you insert here whatever word you like to describe these people who make life such 'fun' for the rest of us.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on April 13, 2017, 12:30:12 PM
 :)
Quote from: escafeld on April 13, 2017, 12:09:17 PM
Quote from: Snowwolflair on April 13, 2017, 12:01:08 PM
Quote from: escafeld on April 13, 2017, 11:55:52 AM
Old men and supermarket trolleys

Why do old men think it is acceptable to ram a trolley into the heel of the person in front of them and walk on as if nothing has happened? This is the second time recently this has happened to me (different old man). I couldn't go any faster otherwise I would have rammed my trolley into the person in front of me.

Very painful experience at the supermarket and that was before I got to the checkout.

When they were younger this is the sort that would have pinched your bottom.  Some people don't change.

And would have received a hefty slap round the face for doing it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on April 13, 2017, 01:17:14 PM
My wife has just shouted 'Hear! Hear!' from her customary position at the kitchen sink. She is multi-tasking by ironing with her right foot at the same time.

Maybe when she gets the time she'll make my lunch and get me another cup of tea.
:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mito on April 13, 2017, 09:42:52 PM
Quote from: escafeld on April 13, 2017, 01:12:17 PM
Never been unfortunate enough to be hit by a pushchair, but the most likely explanation is because they are is a rush as you probably know a woman's work is never done. :)

If my wife is anything to go by, women create work and never know when to stop. :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on April 13, 2017, 09:49:02 PM
Quote from: Mito on April 13, 2017, 09:42:52 PM

If my wife is anything to go by, women create work and never know when to stop. :P

My wife likes to create work. E.g. "Shall we decorate the kitchen?" What she does not realise is that you can not just stick a bit of paint on the walls - everything needs washing, woodwork needs sanding, handles need taking off drawers etc etc .........  :(

(Guess what I started to do the other day)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on April 13, 2017, 10:27:20 PM
And if things run to form, a few days after the 'simple' kitchen makeover begins, the cry goes up "Where did all this dust come from? I only hoovered the other day!"

She ignores me though. I just have to hoover and dust again.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on April 13, 2017, 10:30:33 PM
 :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Nick on April 14, 2017, 12:16:13 AM
Quote from: dannyboy on April 13, 2017, 09:49:02 PM

My wife likes to create work. E.g. "Shall we decorate the kitchen?" What she does not realise is that you can not just stick a bit of paint on the walls - everything needs washing, woodwork needs sanding, handles need taking off drawers etc etc .........  :(

(Guess what I started to do the other day)
You've got it all wrong. The correct response to "Shall we decorate?" is : "Yes, that's fine, dear. I'll pick up the paint you'll need on my way back from the model railway shop tomorrow morning"... :)

Ducks....

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jimbo on April 14, 2017, 08:13:22 AM
When my Missus mentions decorating the kitchen it usually translates as a complete re-fit!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jimbo on April 14, 2017, 09:51:00 AM
Quote from: escafeld on April 14, 2017, 09:36:31 AM
Quote from: Jimbo on April 14, 2017, 08:13:22 AM
When my Missus mentions decorating the kitchen it usually translates as a complete re-fit!

And your missus is quite right. Why would you want to paint the walls and keep the old cupboards. It's not as if fitting a new kitchen is difficult is it?

Undo a few screws to take the existing cabinets out.
Paint/tile the walls while the kitchen is empty.
Assemble the new cabinets if you've bought the cheap versions (again just a few screws)
A few screws to fit new cabinets.
Fit new worktop (HSS will hire you the correct tools)
Fit new floor covering
Job Done

Simples!

Having said that I did enjoy fitting 3 kitchens in our old house! In the 11 years we were there......it had it's headaches but learnt an awful lot! (I think I do actually enjoy a challenge if the truth be known!)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 14, 2017, 09:54:49 AM
Quote from: Jimbo on April 14, 2017, 09:51:00 AM

Having said that I did enjoy fitting 3 kitchens in our old house!

Surely not even a woman would want 3 kitchens? :o
(but, heck, what would I know)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on April 14, 2017, 09:56:06 AM
SWMBO would need three husbands if we had three kitchens to do all the cooking etc.
:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 14, 2017, 10:08:01 AM
Quote from: escafeld on April 14, 2017, 10:02:02 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 14, 2017, 09:54:49 AM
Quote from: Jimbo on April 14, 2017, 09:51:00 AM

Having said that I did enjoy fitting 3 kitchens in our old house!

Surely not even a woman would want 3 kitchens? :o
(but, heck, what would I know)

It takes long enough just having one cleaning up the mess that's made (left by the husband). At least my son was taught what a dishcloth was for and how you use it.

But it was the woman who caused the husband to make the mess in the commanded refurbishment of the kitchen. It's only fair she should clear up the mess ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on April 14, 2017, 10:09:05 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 14, 2017, 09:54:49 AM
Quote from: Jimbo on April 14, 2017, 09:51:00 AM

Having said that I did enjoy fitting 3 kitchens in our old house!

Surely not even a woman would want 3 kitchens? :o
(but, heck, what would I know)

And there still wouldn't be enough cupboard space. Not for my wife that is anyway.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scotsoft on April 14, 2017, 10:12:15 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on April 14, 2017, 10:09:05 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 14, 2017, 09:54:49 AM
Quote from: Jimbo on April 14, 2017, 09:51:00 AM

Having said that I did enjoy fitting 3 kitchens in our old house!

Surely not even a woman would want 3 kitchens? :o
(but, heck, what would I know)

And there still wouldn't be enough cupboard space. Not for my wife that is anyway.

Why would you want to keep your wife in a cupboard  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on April 14, 2017, 10:15:51 AM
Quote from: escafeld on April 14, 2017, 10:02:02 AM
At least my son was taught what a dishcloth was for and how you use it.

Yes, all children need correct guidance to know they are excellent for cleaning all sorts of engine parts, bikes, odd sticky stuff, stuff from noses and spilt beer.  Glad to hear you are bringing him up properly. :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on April 14, 2017, 10:17:50 AM
Quote from: scotsoft on April 14, 2017, 10:12:15 AM
Why would you want to keep your wife in a cupboard  >:D

Too big for the Nelevator? :angel:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 14, 2017, 10:27:56 AM
Quote from: escafeld on April 14, 2017, 10:10:33 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 14, 2017, 10:08:01 AM
Quote from: escafeld on April 14, 2017, 10:02:02 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 14, 2017, 09:54:49 AM
Quote from: Jimbo on April 14, 2017, 09:51:00 AM

Having said that I did enjoy fitting 3 kitchens in our old house!

Surely not even a woman would want 3 kitchens? :o
(but, heck, what would I know)

It takes long enough just having one cleaning up the mess that's made (left by the husband). At least my son was taught what a dishcloth was for and how you use it.

But it was the woman who caused the husband to make the mess in the commanded refurbishment of the kitchen. It's only fair she should clear up the mess ;)

So that's where I went wrong, I fitted the kitchen AND cleaned up the mess that was made

Quite right, too. Women can multi task. Men can't. We're too busy not reading the manual.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on April 14, 2017, 10:32:24 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 14, 2017, 10:27:56 AM
Quite right, too. Women can multi task.

Widely discussed in this household.  And I still maintain that coming home with TWO new pairs of shoes isn't multi-tasking. :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on April 14, 2017, 10:34:43 AM
My mum had a passion for new shoes.
She'd go to the sales, buy 5 pairs of shoes and then tell my dad how much money she'd saved.  :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on April 14, 2017, 10:48:08 AM
Now where have I heard that before Austin Bob A woman can only wear one pair of shoes at a time, we on the other hand can run more than one loco at a time on our layouts ,and just like they have shoes to match diferent outfits we have to have diferent locos to match our coaches or wagons.
Well thats my logic for having so much stock anyway.
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on April 14, 2017, 10:50:39 AM
Now that is a great line. Definitely gonna use that one.  :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jimbo on April 14, 2017, 11:08:50 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on April 14, 2017, 10:09:05 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 14, 2017, 09:54:49 AM
Quote from: Jimbo on April 14, 2017, 09:51:00 AM

Having said that I did enjoy fitting 3 kitchens in our old house!

Surely not even a woman would want 3 kitchens? :o
(but, heck, what would I know)

And there still wouldn't be enough cupboard space. Not for my wife that is anyway.

Lol! Very true!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: trkilliman on April 14, 2017, 11:23:52 AM
Quote from: Bob Tidbury on April 14, 2017, 10:48:08 AM
Now where have I heard that before Austin Bob A woman can only wear one pair of shoes at a time, we on the other hand can run more than one loco at a time on our layouts ,and just like they have shoes to match diferent outfits we have to have diferent locos to match our coaches or wagons.
Well thats my logic for having so much stock anyway.
Bob Tidbury

That's some brilliant logic Bob, that will surely resonate with a great many of us "boys"
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on April 14, 2017, 11:29:56 AM
And remember, when a lady buys shoes she always gets two, so I see nothing wrong with a pair of diesels, or a pair of steamers as an equal purchase. :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: trkilliman on April 14, 2017, 12:46:51 PM
Quote from: daffy on April 14, 2017, 11:29:56 AM
And remember, when a lady buys shoes she always gets two, so I see nothing wrong with a pair of diesels, or a pair of steamers as an equal purchase. :D

Following this line of thought...this is why I would like a pair of DJM Kings, if they hopefully make it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on April 14, 2017, 01:16:37 PM
QuoteWomen can multi task. Men can't.
Absolute rubbish,im currently listening to the radio, reading the forum,drinking coffee and smoking a fag.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 14, 2017, 03:14:38 PM
Quote from: themadhippy on April 14, 2017, 01:16:37 PM
QuoteWomen can multi task. Men can't.
Absolute rubbish,im currently listening to the radio, reading the forum,drinking coffee and smoking a fag.

Accepted. But I was, after all, looking at it from the female's perceptive as that is one of their beliefs. ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mito on April 14, 2017, 08:34:11 PM
Some people buy two different shoes so that they know the difference between right and left foot. ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on April 14, 2017, 09:08:37 PM
Quote from: Mito on April 14, 2017, 08:34:11 PM
Some people buy two different shoes so that they know the difference between right and left foot. ???

Cheaper just to wear odd socks, or tie straw to one leg and wheat to the other for the totally environmental yet historically accurate approach. ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on April 14, 2017, 09:24:36 PM
SWMBO remarked the other week that I had odd socks on. As I said to her, "No, I have another pair just like these at home"
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: javlinfaw7 on April 15, 2017, 02:11:59 AM
"THE ANGRY THREAD" GRRRRRR!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mito on April 15, 2017, 08:57:53 PM
I get really angry when I put my underpants on back to front. I don't know whether I'm coming or going. :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on April 15, 2017, 09:02:14 PM
It's okay, as long as you don't put them on your head and shove pencils up your nose.

Wibble.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on April 15, 2017, 09:36:14 PM
Quote from: daffy on April 15, 2017, 09:02:14 PM
It's okay, as long as you don't put them on your head and shove pencils up your nose.

Wibble.

A Wibble

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Steamie+ on April 16, 2017, 08:18:08 AM
I am sorry I just can't agree about woman being the ones that cause all the work and I wouldn't say anything against Anne after all she has done for me. 😊😊😊
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on April 16, 2017, 04:06:05 PM
Folk posting "I don't like this subject" or "I haven't any interest in this subject" replies. :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

What is the point of such replies? Are some folk so desperate to increase their posts count? Or are their egos so inflated that they think the rest of us only hangout here awaiting the next piece of wisdom to flow from their keyboards?

It's especially annoying when it happens on The Happy Thread, effectively dumping on someone else's parade. Might I suggest that when these super-egos find something they don't like on the The Happy Thread they trot off to the The Unhappy Thread to post their "I don't like this subject"  :poop: ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mito on April 16, 2017, 08:55:00 PM
Quote from: RailGooner on April 16, 2017, 04:06:05 PM
Folk posting "I don't like this subject" or "I haven't any interest in this subject" replies. :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

What is the point of such replies? Are some folk so desperate to increase their posts count? Or are their egos so inflated that they think the rest of us only hangout here awaiting the next piece of wisdom to flow from their keyboards?

It's especially annoying when it happens on The Happy Thread, effectively dumping on someone else's parade. Might I suggest that when these super-egos find something they don't like on the The Happy Thread they trot off to the The Unhappy Thread to post their "I don't like this subject"  :poop: ?

Don't like this subject :P :P :oopssign:  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on April 16, 2017, 09:41:36 PM
Quote from: Mito on April 16, 2017, 08:55:00 PM
Quote from: RailGooner on April 16, 2017, 04:06:05 PM
Folk posting "I don't like this subject" or "I haven't any interest in this subject" replies. :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

What is the point of such replies? Are some folk so desperate to increase their posts count? Or are their egos so inflated that they think the rest of us only hangout here awaiting the next piece of wisdom to flow from their keyboards?

It's especially annoying when it happens on The Happy Thread, effectively dumping on someone else's parade. Might I suggest that when these super-egos find something they don't like on the The Happy Thread they trot off to the The Unhappy Thread to post their "I don't like this subject"  :poop: ?

Don't like this subject :P :P :oopssign:  :)

Ditto. I much prefer The Happy Thread. :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Steamie+ on April 19, 2017, 06:58:37 AM
Quote from: RailGooner on April 16, 2017, 09:41:36 PM
Quote from: Mito on April 16, 2017, 08:55:00 PM
Quote from: RailGooner on April 16, 2017, 04:06:05 PM
Folk posting "I don't like this subject" or "I haven't any interest in this subject" replies. :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

What is the point of such replies? Are some folk so desperate to increase their posts count? Or are their egos so inflated that they think the rest of us only hangout here awaiting the next piece of wisdom to flow from their keyboards?

It's especially annoying when it happens on The Happy Thread, effectively dumping on someone else's parade. Might I suggest that when these super-egos find something they don't like on the The Happy Thread they trot off to the The Unhappy Thread to post their "I don't like this subject"  :poop: ?

Don't like this subject :P :P :oopssign:  :)

Ditto. I much prefer The Happy Thread. :D

Same  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on April 19, 2017, 08:32:11 AM
more politics on TV :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on April 19, 2017, 08:42:57 AM
Quote from: The Q on April 19, 2017, 08:32:11 AM
more politics on TV :(

That's great news! :thumbsup:
Lots more incentive to eschew the time-eating box and get down to the real business of playing trains! :claphappy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ian Bowden on April 20, 2017, 07:42:07 AM
Agreed — last night on the main news an article from Snowdon because that was where the decision to hold an election was made and not a single view or mention of the important bit, the trains on the mountain  railway.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DELETED on April 21, 2017, 11:48:05 PM
here's one for you. I have talktalk youview in my living room but for a while now I've been wondering about one of the cheap plug-ins for my bedroom tv which will give me iplayer etc.

So I've been looking at "now TV" boxes for some time in stores.  I've picked up the box and put it down often enough because frankly TV is so rubbish now I object paying anything more than the licence fee and I think we were better off when we had 4 or 5 channels.  However I do like the idea of these TV sticks.

Tescos today had "Now TV" boxes £19.98 on sale (yellow label).  Looked quite a reasonable deal and maybe worth a punt.  That was until I checked the small print on the sale logo -reduced £0.01 from £19.99on the regular white label price!  Shame on you Tesco!!!!!  That's no bargain price -or sale price :thumbsdown:

I wonder how many folk keep falling for this sort of nonsence.

Rich
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on April 22, 2017, 12:15:13 AM
Quote from: RST on April 21, 2017, 11:48:05 PM

I wonder how many folk keep falling for this sort of nonsence.


On a similar, but different vein, it is surprising how often a 'large' something works out dearer than buying the equivalent amount in smaller units   :hmmm: - 'they' must think we are stupid. However, I suppose somebody must be, cos 'they' keep doing it!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ntpntpntp on April 22, 2017, 12:21:56 AM
Quote from: dannyboy on April 22, 2017, 12:15:13 AM
.. it is surprising how often a 'large' something works out dearer than buying the equivalent amount in smaller units   :hmmm: - 'they' must think we are stupid.

Not necessarily stupid:  often that's simply down to overstock of the smaller packaging which needs to be cleared.   I notice this with packs of cola in supermarkets (I don't drink hot drinks so need something else to get me through a day at the office): generally the packs of 18 or 24 cans are best value (pence per litre) but occasionally they have deals on 8 can packs when they have whole pallets of 'em in stock.   Suits me, I just buy whichever works out cheapest.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DELETED on April 22, 2017, 12:22:32 AM
Quote from: dannyboy on April 22, 2017, 12:15:13 AM
Quote from: RST on April 21, 2017, 11:48:05 PM

I wonder how many folk keep falling for this sort of nonsence.


On a similar, but different vein, it is surprising how often a 'large' something works out dearer than buying the equivalent amount in smaller units   :hmmm: - 'they' must think we are stupid. However, I suppose somebody must be, cos 'they' keep doing it!

I think 90% of folk are stupid when it comes to buying -hence why marketing works so well.  I always check my label prices when I'm buying from shops these days but I'd say most don't.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on April 22, 2017, 12:51:28 AM
Whilst I appreciate what ntpntpntp is saying, in that stores may have stock to get rid of, I believe it is more like what RST is saying - a lot of  people are stupid and/or gullible and they fall for the marketing and advertising.  SWMBO sometimes says to me that it is only a few cents/pence, (depending where we are shopping), but I do not like to think of the sellers trying to 'con' me. And don't get me on about the difference in prices between Northern and Southern Ireland  :veryangry: - but that is another story!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Steamie+ on April 22, 2017, 04:40:48 AM
I agree with you dannyboy, we are all gullible in one way or other, i don't think we set out to be it's human nature. We can all look at prices and think wow that's cheap and lets face it we all do, then reality kicks in and we start thinking, hold on but these say this and these say that, then confusion kicks in and then all i want to do is get out of the store lol  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: But Tesco reducing the NowTv box by 1p, thats mind blowing isn't it.     :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ian Bowden on April 22, 2017, 07:42:33 AM
Buy one get second half price. When you get home you realise you won't have finished the first one when they are both out of date.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Steamie+ on April 22, 2017, 08:23:20 AM
Quote from: Ian Bowden on April 22, 2017, 07:42:33 AM
Buy one get second half price. When you get home you realise you won't have finished the first one when they are both out of date.

:laughabovepost: Very good Ian.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Greybeema on April 22, 2017, 08:56:46 AM
Many shops (in the small print on the shelf label) will give price per unit (Litre, KG etc.) but you do have to make the effort to find it and read it and not just go by the price..

It's worth looking out for and saves on the mental arithmetic..
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Yet_Another on April 22, 2017, 09:23:34 AM
Rather like most marketing, it's about making you feel good about what you're buying. If you think you've got a bargain, you'll feel good, and the shop feels good because they've made a bit more money. Win - win! :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Steamie+ on April 23, 2017, 06:18:07 AM
Quote from: Greybeema on April 22, 2017, 08:56:46 AM
Many shops (in the small print on the shelf label) will give price per unit

That's correct, but a bit of an effort for most to bend down on the really low shelf's though aren't they, i can't get back up if they are less then waist height lol.    :laugh3: :laugh3:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 23, 2017, 11:09:52 AM
Quote from: Steamie+ on April 23, 2017, 06:18:07 AM
Quote from: Greybeema on April 22, 2017, 08:56:46 AM
Many shops (in the small print on the shelf label) will give price per unit

That's correct, but a bit of an effort for most to bend down on the really low shelf's though aren't they, i can't get back up if they are less then waist height lol.    :laugh3: :laugh3:

I know the feeling. Chances are I'd end up rolling around like a tortoise on it's back :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 23, 2017, 11:30:49 AM
I can't read items that low down but I can pick some of them up. I just use my 83 year old Mum as a prop while I claw myself upright >:D
It's only fair as I have to reach the higher up stuff for her :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Nick on April 23, 2017, 12:29:45 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on April 22, 2017, 12:15:13 AM
On a similar, but different vein, it is surprising how often a 'large' something works out dearer than buying the equivalent amount in smaller units   :hmmm: - 'they' must think we are stupid. However, I suppose somebody must be, cos 'they' keep doing it!
Nothing new under the sun.

Once upon a long time ago, an nth cousin of mine, y times removed, had a corner shop in Aberfan.

He sold bars of posh soap for sixpence. This was around the time of the disaster, so pre-decimalisation.

He'd accidentally overbought, and couldn't shift them. So, he took them out of the window and bundled them up and put them back: "Special offer - four bars for two and sixpence". All gone in three days.

(For those of you too young to be versed in the base 12 arithmetic required in ye olden, pre-decimal currency, days, four bars were two shillings at the old price. Two and six would have bought you five bars individually. So he'd actually hiked the price by 25%.)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: broadsword on April 23, 2017, 01:01:56 PM
In a sort of similar vein sometimes when I go into WH Smith to
buy the latest edition of Practical Goatkeeping or whatever
when you take the mag or paper to the counter the assistant
offers you a giant bar of Dairy Milk or similar for a quid,
a bit strange and usually annoying.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Steamie+ on April 23, 2017, 01:18:28 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 23, 2017, 11:09:52 AM
Quote from: Steamie+ on April 23, 2017, 06:18:07 AM
Quote from: Greybeema on April 22, 2017, 08:56:46 AM
Many shops (in the small print on the shelf label) will give price per unit

That's correct, but a bit of an effort for most to bend down on the really low shelf's though aren't they, i can't get back up if they are less then waist height lol.    :laugh3: :laugh3:

I know the feeling. Chances are I'd end up rolling around like a tortoise on it's back :-[

:laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: broadsword on April 23, 2017, 01:32:56 PM
If you are buying bumf in Lidl the price display shows the cost per sheet.
Very informative. 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on April 23, 2017, 03:43:08 PM
Quote from: Nick on April 23, 2017, 12:29:45 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on April 22, 2017, 12:15:13 AM
On a similar, but different vein, it is surprising how often a 'large' something works out dearer than buying the equivalent amount in smaller units   :hmmm: - 'they' must think we are stupid. However, I suppose somebody must be, cos 'they' keep doing it!
Nothing new under the sun.

Once upon a long time ago, an nth cousin of mine, y times removed, had a corner shop in Aberfan.

He sold bars of posh soap for sixpence. This was around the time of the disaster, so pre-decimalisation.

He'd accidentally overbought, and couldn't shift them. So, he took them out of the window and bundled them up and put them back: "Special offer - four bars for two and sixpence". All gone in three days.

(For those of you too young to be versed in the base 12 arithmetic required in ye olden, pre-decimal currency, days, four bars were two shillings at the old price. Two and six would have bought you five bars individually. So he'd actually hiked the price by 25%.)

Was his surname Arkwright ?   :D

On the "Today track" it is common here in Italy to find that the big supermarkets have special "offers" that if you by say 3 x a single will be cheaper than the "triple pack" on offer.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on April 23, 2017, 11:28:01 PM
Quote from: broadsword on April 23, 2017, 01:32:56 PM
If you are buying bumf in Lidl the price display shows the cost per sheet.
Very informative.

And in Lidl the price is often above the item rather than below. Even more confusing for me so I wait outside while the wife does the shopping  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Greybeema on April 24, 2017, 08:00:57 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 23, 2017, 11:09:52 AM
Quote from: Steamie+ on April 23, 2017, 06:18:07 AM
Quote from: Greybeema on April 22, 2017, 08:56:46 AM
Many shops (in the small print on the shelf label) will give price per unit

That's correct, but a bit of an effort for most to bend down on the really low shelf's though aren't they, i can't get back up if they are less then waist height lol.    :laugh3: :laugh3:

I know the feeling. Chances are I'd end up rolling around like a tortoise on it's back :-[

New use for selfie stick.  Use the selfie stick to position you camera phone in front of the low level label. Take picture.  Read at more comfortable height..
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Steamie+ on April 24, 2017, 08:27:09 AM
Quote from: Greybeema on April 24, 2017, 08:00:57 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 23, 2017, 11:09:52 AM
Quote from: Steamie+ on April 23, 2017, 06:18:07 AM
Quote from: Greybeema on April 22, 2017, 08:56:46 AM
Many shops (in the small print on the shelf label) will give price per unit

That's correct, but a bit of an effort for most to bend down on the really low shelf's though aren't they, i can't get back up if they are less then waist height lol.    :laugh3: :laugh3:

I know the feeling. Chances are I'd end up rolling around like a tortoise on it's back :-[

New use for selfie stick.  Use the selfie stick to position you camera phone in front of the low level label. Take picture.  Read at more comfortable height..

Never get the shopping done doing that, :laugh3: :laugh3:,  but good idea though.    :thumbsup: :thumbsup: 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Nick on April 24, 2017, 10:22:02 AM
Quote from: Greybeema on April 24, 2017, 08:00:57 AM
New use for selfie stick.  Use the selfie stick to position you camera phone in front of the low level label. Take picture.  Read at more comfortable height..
So you're planning to wander round a supermarket full of young women, some in short skirts, carrying a camera at ground level on a selfie stick??

Nothing could psossibly go wrong with that idea... Nothing at all...  :D

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 24, 2017, 10:24:58 AM
Quote from: Nick on April 24, 2017, 10:22:02 AM
Quote from: Greybeema on April 24, 2017, 08:00:57 AM
New use for selfie stick.  Use the selfie stick to position you camera phone in front of the low level label. Take picture.  Read at more comfortable height..
So you're planning to wander round a supermarket full of young women, some in short skirts, carrying a camera at ground level on a selfie stick??

Nothing could psossibly go wrong with that idea... Nothing at all...  :D

:smiley-laughing: That's just made my morning
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Steamie+ on April 24, 2017, 11:06:42 AM
Quote from: Nick on April 24, 2017, 10:22:02 AM
Quote from: Greybeema on April 24, 2017, 08:00:57 AM
New use for selfie stick.  Use the selfie stick to position you camera phone in front of the low level label. Take picture.  Read at more comfortable height..
So you're planning to wander round a supermarket full of young women, some in short skirts, carrying a camera at ground level on a selfie stick??

Nothing could psossibly go wrong with that idea... Nothing at all...  :D

:hmmm: You could be right there Nick.      :laugh3: :laugh3: :laugh3:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DELETED on May 02, 2017, 10:11:58 PM
This week I have mainly been wearing a pair of underpants on my head, two pencils which keep falling out my nose and shouting "wibble".

Nationwide remortgage are completely incompetent.  Been dealing with them for almost 2 months and today no more.  Mistake made 6 weeks ago can't be undone and now they want to start the whole process over again, they've made a fool out of me dealing with the wrong solicitors the past 6 weeks.  No wonder it's been going nowhere! No way will I re-apply with them on completely new terms (they won't honour my original application now on the 11th March) -hopefully RBS can sort me out.  What a mess Nationwide is.

also...

Tried to sort out my Mothers Electricity bill last week as her 2 year fixed "Help Beat cancer" term is up.  That's a joke -they only give the charity £5 every 12 months!  Had to call Scottish Power as they have no tarriff information on the termination letter, and they've recently pulled all the tarriff info from the website.  After almost an hour's call (presumably so busy at 09:00hrs because everyone has to call them now -no website info) we found out that she pays £60/month currently -but the BEST cheapest deal Scottish Power offers now is £120/month  :o.  So they are not interested in our business at all. Scottish Power want us to go from £750 a year to £1,500.  So I voiced the fact that they were not inteterested in our business and said we would automatically look elsewhere.  The fact they do not issue tarriff tables anymore -how would anyone know when someone on the phone says "this is our cheapest tarriff" -you've no ida !!!  10 mins later on U-Switch we have an offer from British Gas for £150 less than we currently pay (so abot £600 a year).  I have to sort this mess out after my own mess Nationwide have left.

....I do well 9-5 at work (lots of commendations over the years), always have done and not easy projects.  Outside work everything completely falls apart around me every single time.  I bought a coffee machine the other week -of course it had to go back because it was faulty!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on May 02, 2017, 10:50:40 PM
Escafeld, I find your use of poorly disguised swearing totally unacceptable on this family friendly forum. I appreciate your anger at hearing it,  but I for one do not have to have your experience repeated here.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: DELETED on May 02, 2017, 11:07:50 PM
Quote from: daffy on May 02, 2017, 10:50:40 PM
Escafeld, I find your use of poorly disguised swearing totally unacceptable on this family friendly forum. I appreciate your anger at hearing it,  but I for one do not have to have your experience repeated here.

Hi Escafeld,

I have found it amazingly easy to switch offers for my mother and it's a no-brainer.  Sadly last time I checked, and despite being in the news as now the main energey generator and we sell to the south), my own deal was the cheapest on U-switch!, grr.

...Re swaering s***t, all we have to use is asterixes or a "poop"which everyone reads as s**t , this is a terrible forum for swearing and c**p to be allowed but claims to be family friendly.  I could list losts of threads that I consider not forum friently language.  Is this another?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 03, 2017, 08:58:37 AM
Full swear words are automatically altered across the forum to the  :censored: smiley.
Is there really a need to use asterisks? Why not try to type an acceptable word that still gets your feeling across? Without wishing to be accused of over moderation (again) I just think substitution of swearing with asterisks is not disguising anything :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on May 03, 2017, 09:09:55 AM
Quote from: escafeld on May 02, 2017, 11:11:01 PM
use the report to moderator button and let them decide.

I appreciate that some people might need to use a swear word, but if someone is offended by a swear word, or any part of a post, do what escafeld suggests. That is what the button is for surely?

Addit: Just had a thought - I had better apologise to the Mods now. The way things are going on a couple of threads. your workload is going to increase!  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on May 03, 2017, 01:17:02 PM
I live in Australia across the other side of the planet, and the whole idea of this forum was got me pulled in. (Bad English, I know)

A place where I could connect with N gauge model railway folk across the world!

Let's keep track of the fact we are a model railway community, and not a mob of social media gossips.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Yet_Another on May 03, 2017, 03:31:12 PM
Quote from: escafeld on May 03, 2017, 03:13:54 PM
...but being one of the few female member means I have to put up with sexist attitudes of a few elderly male members...
This is another example of the casual discrimination that litters these posts.

In what way does your sex uniquely qualify you to have to put up with sexist attitudes? I have no doubt that there are many members of either sex, creed, nationality or whatever who also have to put up with with this and other preposterous polarising prejudices.



Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on May 03, 2017, 03:32:01 PM
Quote from: escafeld on May 03, 2017, 03:13:54 PM
Quote from: Bealman on May 03, 2017, 01:17:02 PM

Let's keep track of the fact we are a model railway community, and not a mob of social media gossips.  :thumbsup:

Quite correct, but being one of the few female member means I have to put up with sexist attitudes of a few elderly male members.
Hmmm.. Sexist and ageist comment .... ;)
I don't think anyone's out to get you Ms Escafeld just chill out a bit and enjoy the forum.  :) :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on May 03, 2017, 03:47:48 PM
If we look hard enough, we can see prejudice/sexist/racist comments all over the place, (not just on this forum  :)). If I wanted to, I could find escafeld's comments as sexist and ageist, (although I am a UK male OAP  - I become an Irish OAP later this month  :thumbsup:). I don't find the comments offensive in any way, but I do find a lot of the comments on this and other threads, amusing, whether they be about the female or male gender, age, religion or whatever. In my humble opinion, being politically correct, has gone too far these days. My lovely wife, (sometimes referred to as 'SWMBO'), does look after me, but, I look after her as well. We get on well together even with our own little foibles and, to me, that is what this forum should be striving for - a nice little friendly community. Better shut up now - sounds like a rant.  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on May 03, 2017, 04:54:38 PM
I say we roll back to the 60's when we didnt have any of this pc  bovine  excretia. People these days seem to get offended over the most minute thing,an often get offended on the behalf of others who dont actually find it offensive.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: red_death on May 03, 2017, 05:04:55 PM
I don't particularly care about the langauge used:

- it seems fairly arbitrary whether some "offensive" language is considered as offensive or not by the mods
- whether we like it or not language constantly evolves and things that would be completely unspeakable 20-30 years ago are no longer considered so offensive
- we don't live in a gilded cage (nor should we try to put children in one - they have to learn about society at some point though context and understanding is important)

Despite all that I think the Mods mostly get it right.

What is offensive though is the micro-aggression displayed towards Escafeld - some of the posts on this thread demonstrate exactly part of the problem.  The irony of men telling women whether or not they should be offended or capable of judging whether something is offensive or sexist...

No doubt someone will be along to claim it is all PC nonsense (I see we already have a winner) - easy to say if you are not the recipient of such behaviour...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on May 03, 2017, 06:32:16 PM

QuoteNo doubt someone will be along to claim it is all PC nonsense (I see we already have a winner) - easy to say if you are not the recipient of such behaviour
As a male with hair longer than many woman and a beard that makes santa jealous i receive my fair share of such behavior,however  its  like  dihydrogen monoxide of an anatidaeds vertebral column
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on May 03, 2017, 06:58:27 PM
Wow I think I need a translation of that last bit??
:hmmm: :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on May 03, 2017, 07:35:02 PM
Quote from: themadhippy on May 03, 2017, 06:32:16 PM

dihydrogen monoxide of an anatidaeds vertebral column

Very good use of the English language.  :thumbsup:.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on May 03, 2017, 07:50:06 PM
Perhaps you can translate Dannyboy??
:)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on May 03, 2017, 07:52:17 PM
Quote from: austinbob on May 03, 2017, 07:50:06 PM
Perhaps you can translate Dannyboy??
:)

Water off a ducks back, (I think)  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on May 03, 2017, 07:58:52 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on May 03, 2017, 07:52:17 PM
Quote from: austinbob on May 03, 2017, 07:50:06 PM
Perhaps you can translate Dannyboy??
:)

Water off a ducks back, (I think)  :)
Cool. I am now less than three inches tall...
Cringe...
:-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on May 03, 2017, 08:01:40 PM
Quote from: austinbob on May 03, 2017, 07:58:52 PM

Cool. I am now less than three inches tall...
Cringe...
:-[

I had to start with Google before I worked the rest of it out!  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 03, 2017, 09:41:07 PM
I'm getting soooo bored of folks sniping at each other. The Angry Thread is for folks who have a grievance and I'd like them to be more inventive with the English language than either directly swearing or using asterisks. It should not be a contest to see who can have the last word.
If you don't like what's in the thread, ignore it and read something else. The last thing this thread needs is locking but I know I am not alone as a Mod in getting sick and tired off it >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on May 22, 2017, 10:47:32 AM
WARNING OF A SCAM

Just a warning to you all .
Just had a call out of the blue supposed to be from HMRC saying that they are taking out legal procedings to recover a debt .they tell you to select option 1 to speak to a revenue officer  ,whowill then say you can stop the procedings by clearing the debt by paying on your card.
It makes me very angry to think some vulnerable old folk might be taken in by this SCAM if it was genuine you will have recieved  an official letter or two before warning you .
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Nick on May 22, 2017, 11:11:42 AM
Was this on your landline, Bob? If so, is your line from BT, and have you enabled Call Protect (https://www.productsandservices.bt.com/products/phone/call-protect/)?

We were plagued by nuisance calls, six or seven a day regularly. I enabled Call Protect on the day it came out and it's been wonderful. We can go weeks without a scam call getting through to us now.

(I used to work for BT, but haven't for many years, so have no axe to grind.)

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on May 22, 2017, 11:54:49 AM
Call protect is great. The log says over a hundred calls have been blocked over the last three months or so.
One of BT's better features.
:beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: broadsword on May 22, 2017, 12:12:19 PM
I'm feeling a bit left out, haven't had a nuisance call  for a  while,
last one was asking how I'd vote in the council elections. :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on May 22, 2017, 12:19:57 PM
Yes it was on our landline Nick we have got a Sky package deal for TV ,Broadband and phone we did buy a call blocker which worked fine for several years but its packed up now we will have to buy a new one ,I dont know if Sky do have a blocking system withtheir service I will get my son to make aphonecall to them as he pays thebill for us.
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on May 22, 2017, 12:30:55 PM
Quote from: broadsword on May 22, 2017, 12:13:55 PM
I'm feeling a bit left out, haven't had a nuisance call  for a  while,
last one was asking how I'd vote in the council elections. :(
How'd you vote in the council elections?  ;) ;D

Sorry. Being smart. We have councils here too and I wouldn't vote for any of them.  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on May 22, 2017, 12:56:58 PM
 :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:


I have just discovered - through a process of elimination, trial and error etc over many weeks - that I can no longer eat Fish'n'Chips! :o :goggleeyes: :'(

Over the years I have developed intolerances - and in some case allergies - to many food stuffs, additives, and the like, and I had already had to eliminate vinegar from my diet some years ago, but to discover that the basic staple of Anglo-Saxon cuisine (for want of a better term) is now off-limits is beyond the pale! :(

Well, I can still eat Fish'n'Chips if I want to, just as long as I don't mind not being able to sleep that night and feeling dreadful the next day. (Plus who knows what other effects.)

I am now going to sulk for a week or two. :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on May 22, 2017, 01:01:52 PM
Is it the fish or the chips causing the problem Daffy? Maybe you could still eat half your favourite meal...
:) :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on May 22, 2017, 01:06:21 PM
Quote from: daffy on May 22, 2017, 12:56:58 PM


I am now going to sulk for a week or two. :(

Only for a week or two  :goggleeyes:. British fish and chips is one of the reasons why I keep making trips back home - along with visiting model shops, heritage railways etc., oh, and relatives of course.  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Nick on May 22, 2017, 01:29:09 PM
Quote from: daffy on May 22, 2017, 12:56:58 PM
Well, I can still eat Fish'n'Chips if I want to, just as long as I don't mind not being able to sleep that night and feeling dreadful the next day. (Plus who knows what other effects.)
That's never stopped me drinking!  :D
:beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: broadsword on May 22, 2017, 01:33:11 PM
Quote from: Bealman on May 22, 2017, 12:30:55 PM
Quote from: broadsword on May 22, 2017, 12:13:55 PM
I'm feeling a bit left out, haven't had a nuisance call  for a  while,
last one was asking how I'd vote in the council elections. :(
How'd you vote in the council elections?  ;) ;D

Sorry. Being smart. We have councils here too and I wouldn't vote for any of them.  :beers:

I voted tactically , the councillor I voted for drinks in the same bar as me
however he lost!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on May 22, 2017, 01:36:35 PM
Quote from: austinbob on May 22, 2017, 01:01:52 PM
Is it the fish or the chips causing the problem Daffy? Maybe you could still eat half your favourite meal...
:) :beers:

It's the fish, Bob. I have very high IgE levels when it comes to salmon, and am therefore allergic to that and other pink fish and all shellfish. The problem with all fish, and at my local Chippy this means white fish, such as Cod, Pollock and Haddock, is the presence of histamine. This is a natural result of decay that begins in fish as soon as they die, and the less fresh the fish is, the more histamine there will be. This has been the reason why some reaction to the Fish'n'Chips I've eaten is slightly less severe. (I'm still studying the full science behind it all.)

Sadly my sensitivity to histamine from lots of sources has increased dramatically over the last five years, though its origins are far older, stemming from around 1990.

So I shall have to visit the chippy just to get the wonderful aroma, and maybe order Chips'nChips.

And before anyone suggest all the other things I could order with those chips, I should point out that this is only the latest food intolerance problem I have defined. Suffice to say there's nothing else that springs to mind that I can eat without problems at your average Chippy.

So yes, David, I may sulk for a lot longer than a week or two. ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on May 22, 2017, 01:48:00 PM
Sorry to hear about your food sensitivities Daffy.
Chips 'n' chips sounds good to me but not sure my doctor would agree!!  :no:
:beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: javlinfaw7 on May 22, 2017, 02:38:44 PM
How about a battered and deepfried mars bar or curlywhurly?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on May 22, 2017, 03:17:22 PM
Quote from: javlinfaw7 on May 22, 2017, 02:38:44 PM
How about a battered and deepfried mars bar or curlywhurly?

Sadly  :hmmm:not. It's the batter, you see, that I had to remove from fish anyway. And sometimes the sugar. :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ian Bowden on May 22, 2017, 08:29:32 PM
Quote from: Bob Tidbury on May 22, 2017, 12:19:57 PM
Yes it was on our landline Nick we have got a Sky package deal for TV ,Broadband and phone we did buy a call blocker which worked fine for several years but its packed up now we will have to buy a new one ,I dont know if Sky do have a blocking system withtheir service I will get my son to make aphonecall to them as he pays thebill for us.
Bob Tidbury
BT make a phone (8600) which has call blocker. You record all the phone numbers that you want to receive then when a call not on the list is received the phone plays a message asking the caller to give their name and press # The phone then rings and plays the name to you and you can either accept or reject the call. That stops most cold callers.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on June 11, 2017, 11:23:27 AM
Mrs Bealman watching MasterChef, but unfortunately they've put it on at the club too  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ozzie Bill. on June 11, 2017, 12:12:30 PM
with you there George, with you there. It has devolved into the most utter drivel known to man, except for that ridiculous bogan show where they knock each others homes down! Just the trailers for either of them make me want to destroy the TV.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on June 11, 2017, 12:35:31 PM
Or do railway modelling.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on June 12, 2017, 10:19:20 AM
7.15 here and I've just seen what I presume is a gov funded TV advert, reminding us to wear seatbelts.
:worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on June 12, 2017, 10:26:40 AM
Quote from: Bealman on June 12, 2017, 10:19:20 AM
7.15 here and I've just seen what I presume is a gov funded TV advert, reminding us to wear seatbelts.
:worried:
Jeez - what goes on in your model railway room - seatbelts??? Whooow.  :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on June 12, 2017, 10:35:38 AM
I hammer the Blue Pullman  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Graham on June 30, 2017, 09:46:09 AM
not sure if this should be in this thread, but it made me angry so here goes.
Just went to renew my subscription to Model Rail, I have been buying this since it became a standalone magazine. I purchased the subscription using my UK credit card and was charged in £. I tried to renew the subscription but it will only show me A$ now.
Now here is the beef.
In £ it is £26 to renew but in A$ it is A$62.99.
At todays exchange rate £26 should be A$44
there is no VAT as the delivery is outside of the EU, so as with all other purchases it should be £26 less VAT, SO WHY am I being charged an additional A$19 just to read the magazine upside down.
as an old advert over here once said "NOT HAPPY JAN!!!"
Of course it could be that Bauer media need to recoup the costs of the lost defamation court case against Rebel Wilson.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zopadooper on June 30, 2017, 10:29:57 AM
I cannot comment about the exchange rate but there is no UK VAT on either printed materials or postage so that part of your gripe is unfounded.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: silly moo on June 30, 2017, 11:13:54 AM
I too have subscribed to Model Rail from the first issue but now get it in digital form. It is more expensive to get an overseas digital subscription (as opposed to a UK digital one) from Bauer despite there being no postage involved!

I now get it a much better price from Pocketmags.

And while I'm in grumble mode, why is it that new magazine subscribers get free gifts while those who have subscribed for years get nothing?  :(   No gifts stuck to the front of magazines if you live overseas either.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: PeteW on June 30, 2017, 01:22:52 PM
Quote from: zopadooper on June 30, 2017, 10:29:57 AM
I cannot comment about the exchange rate but there is no UK VAT on either printed materials or postage so that part of your gripe is unfounded.

But VAT is levied on digital products, which is one reason why ebooks are often more expensive than the printed equivalent.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on June 30, 2017, 10:41:28 PM
I do not buy UK magazines here in Ireland. Not only do the importers (?) seem to just pluck a number out of the air for the exchange rate, 9% VAT is also added. A magazine costing £4.00p, will cost something like €6.00 :(. The exchange rate at the moment is about 1.14 and if you then add 9%, the magazine should cost about £5.00p. The phrase 'rip off Ireland' is still used here! I wait until I go into the north to buy my magazines.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on July 07, 2017, 03:52:11 PM
I am sooooo  :censored: with myself

I was sat happily putting the etched name plates onto my Class 60 "Swindon Dalesman".

All going fine until I got to put the last plate on and it, plus the fret, are nowhere to be seen.

Turned the room upside down looking for it. No luck.

All the advice about storing small parts etc and I just loose it.  :veryangry:

Does anybody have a spare they could part with?

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on July 07, 2017, 04:00:14 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on July 07, 2017, 03:52:11 PM
I am sooooo  :censored: with myself

I was sat happily putting the etched name plates onto my Class 60 "Swindon Dalesman".

All going fine until I got to put the last plate on and it, plus the fret, are nowhere to be seen.

Turned the room upside down looking for it. No luck.

All the advice about storing small parts etc and I just loose it.  :veryangry:

Does anybody have a spare they could part with?

Skyline2uk
Its just so frustrating when something like that happens. You KNOW its there somewhere but it might just as well be on the moon.  :sorrysign:

As an aside, can I ask what you stick your nameplates on with? I've got a couple to stick on to a Peco Patriot from Jubilee conversion. Bit wary about superglue, thought about using a couple of small dabs of paint. Any advice appreciated.

Hope you find a replacement nameplate for you loco. Of course, Murphy's law says that as soon as you get a replacement you'll find the original. Oh well that's life.
:beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: silly moo on July 07, 2017, 04:03:28 PM
Look on your clothes and the bottom of your shoes.

I suppose you could always give the loco another identity on the other side, as you only see one side at once. Aparrently some people used to paint their coaches different colors on different sides, two coaches for the price of one  :D

My bugbear is transfers, unless I have spares I usually manage to make a real mess, I've got a couple of locos that I haven't applied transfers to because I'm so worried about making a mess.

I hope the plate turns up eventually.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on July 07, 2017, 04:12:28 PM
Quote from: austinbob on July 07, 2017, 04:00:14 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on July 07, 2017, 03:52:11 PM
I am sooooo  :censored: with myself

I was sat happily putting the etched name plates onto my Class 60 "Swindon Dalesman".

All going fine until I got to put the last plate on and it, plus the fret, are nowhere to be seen.

Turned the room upside down looking for it. No luck.

All the advice about storing small parts etc and I just loose it.  :veryangry:

Does anybody have a spare they could part with?

Skyline2uk
Its just so frustrating when something like that happens. You KNOW its there somewhere but it might just as well be on the moon.  :sorrysign:

As an aside, can I ask what you stick your nameplates on with? I've got a couple to stick on to a Peco Patriot from Jubilee conversion. Bit wary about superglue, thought about using a couple of small dabs of paint. Any advice appreciated.

Hope you find a replacement nameplate for you loco. Of course, Murphy's law says that as soon as you get a replacement you'll find the original. Oh well that's life.
:beers:

Thanks Bob

Of course, this is the biggest irony of it all, thinking of submitting a simple "how to" article to the NGS on this subject.

Chapter one will now be KEEP ALL BITS IN A BAG / BOX"

I use Delux Materials glue and glaze and a cocktail stick.

It's reasonablely fogiving glue which gives you time to adjust and dries clear.

Any obvious excess is easily removed carefully with a cocktail stick as well.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on July 07, 2017, 04:14:26 PM
I use a thin coat of satin varnish and put the plate on just as the varnish dries ,then a thin coat over the top of the plate to stop it from tarnishing.
This works for me.
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on July 08, 2017, 12:34:22 AM
My advice would be to build a roundy roundy stand in the middle layout because then you only need 1 nameplate. Problem solved  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: silly moo on July 10, 2017, 11:01:54 AM
I've just managed to get tea into the bottom of my iPhone! :'(  it's half working but thinks the headphones are attached when they aren't. It has now been put switched off and standing up into a container of silica cat litter, to try and dry the moisture out.

This made me think of the discussions we have about detail vs reliability and strength in N gauge locos, sometimes I wish I had a good old fashioned Nokia.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on July 10, 2017, 12:25:35 PM
Quote from: silly moo on July 10, 2017, 11:01:54 AM
I've just managed to get tea into the bottom of my iPhone! :'(  it's half working but thinks the headphones are attached when they aren't. It has now been put switched off and standing up into a container of silica cat litter, to try and dry the moisture out.

This made me think of the discussions we have about detail vs reliability and strength in N gauge locos, sometimes I wish I had a good old fashioned Nokia.

My other hobby is sailing, the phone is waterproof, has a rubber outer casing and has a solar panel on the back. That will tell you what would otherwise happen to portable electronic items... But it only makes phone calls...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on July 10, 2017, 12:47:22 PM
QuoteI've just managed to get tea into the bottom of my iPhone!. It has now been put switched off and standing up into a container of silica cat litter, to try and dry the moisture out.
was there sugar in the tea? was the tea strong? before trying to dry out your best given it a soak in plain cold water then into rice or  other drying medium.Look on the bright side though,if it had been champagne or coca cola you  be looking at a new phone as the acids in those drinks eat circuit boards quicker than a fat bloke eat chips
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: silly moo on July 10, 2017, 01:00:39 PM
Even if it does dry out, I think it may have to go to the repair shop for a proper clean up. I shudder to think how much that will cost.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on July 10, 2017, 01:19:26 PM
Quote from: silly moo on July 10, 2017, 01:00:39 PM
Even if it does dry out, I think it may have to go to the repair shop for a proper clean up. I shudder to think how much that will cost.

my advice is get it checked BEFORE trying to power it up.

Usually it can be remedied by cleaning in distilled water in an ultrasonic tank, but that depends on how much sugar and milk was in the tea.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 10, 2017, 01:41:27 PM
Am I too late to recommend things called 'teaspoons' Veronica?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on July 10, 2017, 02:02:02 PM
I won't ask how the (possibly interesting) accident occurred but in my experience, it's best to dunk biscuits rather than mobiles!

Hope you get the thing sorted OK.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on July 10, 2017, 09:56:16 PM
My wife dropped her iPhone into the loo  :doh:. Fished out promptly, shaken dry then handed to me whereupon I extracted more fluid by various means, then placed it on a piece of wood inside a container half full of those condensation crystals for two days.

It has worked fine ever since.

Hope the same result comes your way.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on July 10, 2017, 10:00:30 PM
Quote from: daffy on July 10, 2017, 09:56:16 PM
My wife dropped her iPhone into the loo  :doh:. Fished out promptly, shaken dry then handed to me whereupon I extracted more fluid by various means, then placed it on a piece of wood inside a container half full of those condensation crystals for two days.

It has worked fine ever since.

Hope the same result comes your way.

Do you have soft water in your area. You would not have much chance of doing this in a hard water area as crystals form as it dries out.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on July 10, 2017, 10:18:11 PM
Quote from: Snowwolflair on July 10, 2017, 10:00:30 PM
Quote from: daffy on July 10, 2017, 09:56:16 PM
My wife dropped her iPhone into the loo  :doh:. Fished out promptly, shaken dry then handed to me whereupon I extracted more fluid by various means, then placed it on a piece of wood inside a container half full of those condensation crystals for two days.

It has worked fine ever since.

Hope the same result comes your way.

Do you have soft water in your area. You would not have much chance of doing this in a hard water area as crystals form as it dries out.

Yes, we are in a hard water area (lots of scale regularly cleaned out of the kettle, and two years ago the hot water tank was replaced and was found to be seriously scaled up) and therefore, judging by what you say, happy to still have a perfectly functioning iPhone.

Maybe my water extraction methods prior to placing it in the container helped: a few swift long arm movements (like a centrifuge in effect), and some judicious suction at various points around the case (best not ask how  :o )

But probably just very lucky.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on July 14, 2017, 12:29:38 PM
Quote from: daffy on July 10, 2017, 09:56:16 PM
My wife dropped her iPhone into the loo  :doh:.

I'm going to invent a wall-mounted telephone holder for use in toilets.

Rich at last !

Best regards,


Joe
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on July 14, 2017, 12:40:47 PM
Neat plan, Joe!

I also had a brilliant idea which with it's elegant looks and 'no drop' features I thought would bring me fortune if not also fame. Then I found out somebody had beaten me to it!

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/56/2a/27/562a27b40666fa69deed210150d74103--vintage-phones-antique-phones-vintage-telephone.jpg

Ah well; back to the gin and tonics!

Dave G


Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Luke Piewalker on July 14, 2017, 11:28:27 PM
I am currently building an O gauge brake can from a Slaters kit...
Instructions are mostly text with a few misleading drawings. Virtually everything I have stuck on I've had to unstick again. I don't think anything has fitted without filing if general hacking.

:veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on July 15, 2017, 07:13:27 PM
Quote from: daveg on July 14, 2017, 12:40:47 PM
Neat plan, Joe!

I also had a brilliant idea which with it's elegant looks and 'no drop' features I thought would bring me fortune if not also fame. Then I found out somebody had beaten me to it!

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/56/2a/27/562a27b40666fa69deed210150d74103--vintage-phones-antique-phones-vintage-telephone.jpg

Great design. The toilet roll holder could be integrated below the phone !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 11, 2017, 12:35:41 PM
Had my 6 monthly cardiac check up this morning. Appointment was for 09.20 so I arrived at 09.05 and was taken for weighing/blood pressure at 09.10. Then I was told the doctor doesn't arrive until 09.15 and there are 2 patients before me. What's the point of making appointments before 09.20 if they know he's not going to arrive until 09.15? >:(
When I got to see him at 09.55 he prodded slowly with one finger at a keyboard and mumbled some questions at me. I got the feeling the entire day was just too much for him.
Luckily the blood pressure tablets I'm on seem to be doing the trick or I might have told him some home truths ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zopadooper on August 11, 2017, 06:36:42 PM
Are you daring to suggest that the NHS has strayed from the well oiled machine that is an N gauge loco?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: port perran on August 11, 2017, 07:09:59 PM
I think that type of thing is all too common.
Glad that you are ok though Mick.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 11, 2017, 08:25:40 PM
Quote from: zopadooper on August 11, 2017, 06:36:42 PM
Are you daring to suggest that the NHS has strayed from the well oiled machine that is an N gauge loco?

In Chorley that N gauge loco would be a Lima Deltic :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on August 11, 2017, 11:28:08 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 11, 2017, 12:35:41 PM
What's the point of making appointments before 09.20 if they know he's not going to arrive until 09.15? >:(

Yes. My wife had numerous appointments at Manchester Eye Hospital and they seemed to make huge numbers of appointments for the same time and then let everyone wait. We never managed a visit of less than 4 hours (for a 15 minute max appointment) and the worst was arriving for a 10:00 appointment and not being seen until 16:15 ... the clinic officially closed at 13:30 !!!

My father, who has been going there for many years, told me that it is always like that.

Recently my wife needed an operation on her wrist and was told to be at the hospital by 07:30 - which meant us getting our children up very early and dropping them round to my parents ready for the school run. I had to take time off work (unpaid) as I normally start at 07:00 to 07:30. She was nervous and they gave her pre-meds so that she would be calm and her blood pressure low. I had booked the whole day off, as we were expecting her to be a few hours and then she'd need me to take her home and take care of her. Instead, we waited and waited. The pre-meds wore off. She was eventually taken through to theatre at 16:30. So she'd been made to worry all day, the children had been dragged out of bed very early and I'd lost a whole day's pay for nothing. They knew the list for the day, why not get people in at the right time?

I also had an exploratory operation some years ago (luckily it proved their diagnosis of lymphoma to be wrong). I had to be in by 20:00 on Thursday to be ready for theatre at 11:00 on Friday. Apparently that was the only way to reserve the bed so it wasn't given to someone else. Grrrrr.

SteveW

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 12, 2017, 08:47:57 AM
I reckon the NHS is in collusion with the rip off artists who run the hospital car parks. The longer the delay the more they get ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zopadooper on August 12, 2017, 08:52:38 AM
Here Here.  I have advocated for a long time that you ought to charged £5 to park but if you don't get out within an hour you get your money back!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NeMo on August 12, 2017, 11:54:30 AM
Quote from: escafeld on August 12, 2017, 10:12:36 AM
It makes me really angry when people complain about the excellent service the NHS provides, especially considering how under funded it is. It just seems an easy target. The healthcare funding in the UK is low compared to comparable European countries. In 2016 the UK spent $4192 per person, France $4600 per person and Germany $5551.

Hear, hear!

The NHS is probably the single best thing about the way the UK works, and one of its two crown jewels alongside the sheer vitality of the financial City of London. (An odd pairing, I know, but for all its flaws, some of which are socially divisive, the City generates vast amounts of money that feed into taxation, consumer spending, and job creation.)

I lived in the US for three years. Unless you are very poor (Medicaid) or old enough to be on Medicare then "going to the doctor" is not something you undertake lightly. Millions of low and middle income people ignore pain and illness simply because they can't afford the fees, while others are locked into certain jobs because they need the healthcare benefits that come with them. It's a catastrophic system unless you happen to be among the wealthier end of the population, and for young people especially is creating real long-term hardship.

For all its failings, the NHS does what it promises to do, which is to provide free healthcare to everyone who needs it without costing them a penny at the time. The taxation system behind it is reasonably fair, but alas, as you say @escafeld (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5876), the demands on the NHS are increasing faster than the money can be collected to pay for it.

Without bringing up the dreaded "B" word again, it is worth remembering a certain campaign "accidentally" suggested millions of pounds of money were being diverted from the NHS into EU coffers, for which there is absolutely no evidence at all. The fact this "fake news" factoid played to people's fears so powerfully underlines how important the NHS is in the UK. I won't have a word said against it!

Cheers, NeMo
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 12, 2017, 12:59:53 PM
Quote from: escafeld on August 12, 2017, 10:12:36 AM
It makes me really angry when people complain about the excellent service the NHS provides, especially considering how under funded it is. It just seems an easy target.


Having had all sorts of treatment on the NHS including a hip replacement and a triple bypass (not at the same time!) I feel quite qualified to voice an opinion about services in Chorley, Preston and Blackpool, thank you. Probably more so than you are. I have repeatedly said before the hands on staff are above wonderful. It's the others I worry about.


Quote from: newportnobby on August 11, 2017, 12:35:41 PM
I got the feeling the entire day was just too much for him.

Did you ask him if he had been called out during the night, or whether the previous patient was not very polite!

[/quote]

I'm not interested what the previous patient said/did. He should be professional enough not to make me feel as if I was just ruining his day.
When I said the staff told me he comes in at 09.15, they meant every day - not just that particular day.

Recently my 84 year old mother had a fall and I took her to A & E on her GPs advice. It took more than 10 minutes to get her booked in because the 2 nurses on reception had a debate about who should be doing the booking in. After 4½ hours she had an X ray and was then seen by a doctor who apologised profusely for the delay, was courteous, extremely competent and actually listened to his patient. Hands on staff again.

As for paying more tax - yes I would, providing it got to the people who deserve it
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on August 12, 2017, 09:44:56 PM
Touristwombles, just why do they think that if they are on holiday it's quite ok to wander around on 30 to 60 mph roads when there is a perfectly good pavement.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on August 12, 2017, 10:35:16 PM
Quote from: The Q on August 12, 2017, 09:44:56 PM
Touristwombles, just why do they think that if they are on holiday it's quite ok to wander around on 30 to 60 mph roads when there is a perfectly good pavement.

Because the pavement ahead is block by another group of them stood gawking at (select one):
[ ] a red phone box
[ ] a red bus
[ ] an unarmed policeman
[ ] a staggeringly unspectacular thing that I've walked past every day for decades and never noticed.

:D

And have you ever tried driving down the stretch of Abbey Road featured on the Beatles' album cover? Touristwombles (you should TM that) stopping in the middle of the Zebra crossing for a selfie!? :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on August 13, 2017, 07:58:39 AM
Quote from: RailGooner on August 12, 2017, 10:35:16 PM
Quote from: The Q on August 12, 2017, 09:44:56 PM
Touristwombles, just why do they think that if they are on holiday it's quite ok to wander around on 30 to 60 mph roads when there is a perfectly good pavement.

Because the pavement ahead is block by another group of them stood gawking at (select one):
[ ] a red phone box
[ ] a red bus
[ ] an unarmed policeman
[ ] a staggeringly unspectacular thing that I've walked past every day for decades and never noticed.

:D

And have you ever tried driving down the stretch of Abbey Road featured on the Beatles' album cover? Touristwombles (you should TM that) stopping in the middle of the Zebra crossing for a selfie!? :veryangry:

This is deepest Norfolk, the touristwombles  we get here are from the UK, furriners are anyone from outside the county... In some cases anyone from outside your town.

What's a policeman?  The nearest we get is a multicoloured car going down to the beach for a break, maybe seen a couple of times a year.

Red bus? We don't get busses of any colour round here either. The nearest would be two miles away, and to get to work (25 miles away) using them, I'd have to leave home an hour before I finished working here previous day. First bus 08:08, last 13:58

We do have the odd red telephone box, the nearest 4 miles away, which was always the nearest, some still in use, most these days are things like libraries.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on August 13, 2017, 10:04:29 AM
Suffolk is just as bad we go to the Southwold show every year and we allways say you turn off the A12 and the world as we know it STOPS  max speed of any car is 20 miles an hour people meandering in the middle of the road plus the odd animal.who is just lying there round a bend in the middle of the road
BUT its worth it the scenery is lovely .B&Bs friendly with good Full.English Breakfast and a good Model Railway Show as well .
People who live in that part of the world are so lucky ,they want to try living in High Wycombe with its steep hills and no real.scenery untill you.get out of town .to places like Burnham Beeches and the like.
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tonye on August 13, 2017, 10:51:34 AM
I have to agree with Bob on that one. Suffolk is home to adnams brewery and always expensive, like all the places to visit in and around Southwold. Bob I have PM you!!.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: red_death on August 15, 2017, 10:32:54 AM
On the NHS point, I have sympathy with both frustrated patients and the people who work in the NHS.  Rather than blame them I would rather people didn't waste appointments by either not showing up or going to A&E for unnecessary reasons (though the latter is partly related to lack of adequate walk-in or GP centres available at times when people are not working which relates to Escafeld's point about lack of funding).

Cheers, Mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on August 15, 2017, 10:55:29 AM
Luxury! My daughter just paid A$5000 to have her thyroid removed!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on August 15, 2017, 10:59:06 AM
I have to go for an Endoscopy every two years and I live in High Wycombe which has an excelent Endoscopy unit I am a real wimp and a bad gag reflex and I have to be sedated to have the examination done but they want me to go to Milton Keynes to have it .How am I supposed to get there and back I could drive there but your not allowed to drive for at least 24 hours after sedation I asked if they could put me up for the night and the lady on. the phone hung up.
So we are now waiting for Wycombe hospital to sort it out .Why send someone all that way when there is a very good unit a mile away from my house.Think of the pollution the car will make driving that distance and the cost of the petrol and I dread to think how much it would cost and how long it would take me by public transport .
Rant over.
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on August 15, 2017, 11:11:05 AM
That's a pretty cool rant, Bob!  :beers:

When I had a colonoscopy a year or so ago, the doc said he'd take a look in my throat and stomach as well while he was at it.

I hope he did the throat first!  ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Railwaygun on August 15, 2017, 10:29:12 PM
Quote from: Bealman on August 15, 2017, 11:11:05 AM
That's a pretty cool rant, Bob!  :beers:

When I had a colonoscopy a year or so ago, the doc said he'd take a look in my throat and stomach as well while he was at it.

I hope he did the throat first!  ;D

anything is possible if the scope is long enough...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 15, 2017, 10:40:16 PM
When I had a camera inserted into my bladder, the consultant couldn't understand why I didn't want to have a look at the monitor.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 16, 2017, 09:12:12 AM
It was the camera and sound guys who were the painful bit.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 16, 2017, 11:28:44 AM
Actually, Mick, it was the microphone with the furry sock on it that was the most irritating.😃
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on August 16, 2017, 11:30:52 AM
Eeeek  :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on August 17, 2017, 08:06:19 PM
Quote from: Malc on August 15, 2017, 10:40:16 PM
When I had a camera inserted into my bladder, the consultant couldn't understand why I didn't want to have a look at the monitor.
Last time I had one of those I asked if I could have a video copy to post on youtube but the request was refused. :)

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: BoxTunnel on August 18, 2017, 09:29:04 AM
 :o

Had an endoscopy a few years ago to confirm my coeliac disease - last thing I want to see is the inside of me!

Graham, no oil painting on the outside either.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pegasus on August 18, 2017, 11:33:42 AM
Quote from: The Q on August 12, 2017, 09:44:56 PM
Touristwombles, just why do they think that if they are on holiday it's quite ok to wander around on 30 to 60 mph roads when there is a perfectly good pavement.
Aha!
Another person who get thoroughly sick of them!
When driving through my village (in Greece!) I get really frustrated with them for this, all common sense seems to fly out of the window and they ignore all cars etc. and wander all over the road, even if towing small children - senseless!
H.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulprice on August 18, 2017, 11:46:09 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 16, 2017, 09:12:12 AM
It was the camera and sound guys who were the painful bit.

Its all right for you they wanted to film me in Cinemascope, I mean how rude, how did do they think my bum, is the cheek of it, well the cheeks of it come to think about it.

I'd hate to see the trailer, "coming soon to a Cinema near you" and then the image 30 feet high, think of the children, of the inhumanity of it all
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 18, 2017, 12:01:36 PM
Quote from: paulprice on August 18, 2017, 11:46:09 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on August 16, 2017, 09:12:12 AM
It was the camera and sound guys who were the painful bit.

Its all right for you they wanted to film me in Cinemascope, I mean how rude, how did do they think my bum, is the cheek of it, well the cheeks of it come to think about it.

I'd hate to see the trailer, "coming soon to a Cinema near you" and then the image 30 feet high, think of the children, of the inhumanity of it all

:laughabovepost:
At least we can be thankful it wasn't 3D high definition :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mito on August 18, 2017, 04:54:49 PM
Quote from: Pegasus on August 18, 2017, 11:33:42 AM
Quote from: The Q on August 12, 2017, 09:44:56 PM
Touristwombles, just why do they think that if they are on holiday it's quite ok to wander around on 30 to 60 mph roads when there is a perfectly good pavement.
Aha!
Another person who get thoroughly sick of them!
When driving through my village (in Greece!) I get really frustrated with them for this, all common sense seems to fly out of the window and they ignore all cars etc. and wander all over the road, even if towing small children - senseless!
H.

There's a saying here that visitors loose their brains as they cross the Pyrenees. Some of the stupid things they do is unbelievable. It's any nationality not just British.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: trkilliman on August 24, 2017, 10:02:22 AM
Clearly not N gauge.

We live in a very troubled World, and what I am going to say is miniscule but it does annoy me.

Why do some people advertise items as N gauge on ebay when they are clearly 00?

I have been caught 3 times now with this.

O.K you could sell it on in the relevent 00 gauge section of ebay, but it's an irritation that I could do without.
The lastest a few days back was an ad' for a small collection of random N gauge items. Included was a sheet of decals. On the sheet was a pair of British Railways tender insignia in the GWR style, which I want for a loco project.

They were all I really wanted, although the other GWR related decals would be handy as I model the period 1948-56, when a variety of liveries and lettering were used.  Fox do the decals I wanted but they are something like £4.50 a pair, which I thought a tad steep. On hindsight...

When it arrived I opened the Jiffy bag keen to see the decals, heart sank immediatly when I saw they were 00. The same seller has an ad' for Merit N gauge figures, yet the box clearly states OO!

Rant over
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pegasus on August 24, 2017, 10:48:06 AM
I've noticed this myself.
I think it's laziness in that the seller may have listed some N gauge items in the N section, then moves on to selling his 00 items but forgets to change what section he's listing in?
Maybe?
Or, is it a deliberate ploy?
I'm always very careful but clearly, some are not.
Harold.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on August 24, 2017, 11:24:05 AM
Pegasus and trkilliman are right in what they say, but I have also noticed that if you put 'n gauge' in the ebay search box, quite often there will be some other gauge that shows up in the search - clearly not a seller fault, but an ebay fault. That annoys me.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: trkilliman on August 24, 2017, 11:33:45 AM
Yes I'm always careful when advertising on ebay.
I always preview the ad' to sort of proof read it. Of course none of us are perfect and mistakes can be made.

I do think that sometimes pic's are taken from a distance and can/to throw you. Interesting to see how this pans out as I have asked ebay to sort it. I'll let you know via this forum as any of us could be in a similar position, with something maybe :no: quite expensive.
Not a huge sum of money involved in this instance, so it must be the Victor Meldrew in me rearing it's head  lol.

I have been buying and selling via ebay for around 12 years. I have a large 100% positive feedback score, because I take care with the ad' details, post quickly, and put some thought into the way I package items (many years in Royal Mail enlightened me)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: cudders on August 24, 2017, 09:21:46 PM
Fed up of threads on here with no bloody photos. So many where you cant see any as they have moved their online files.

Come on guys get a grip  :thumbsdown:

Cudders
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ian Bowden on August 27, 2017, 12:00:21 PM
Went to pick my apples yesterday. Not one left not even a windfall. One of my neighbours asked me last year for some I suspect she has had them all this year - unfortunately no proof
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 27, 2017, 02:56:04 PM
Quote from: cudders on August 24, 2017, 09:21:46 PM
Fed up of threads on here with no bloody photos. So many where you cant see any as they have moved their online files.

Come on guys get a grip  :thumbsdown:

Cudders

@cudders (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=253)
Out of our hands, Cudders. Photobucket, for one, have severed all the links unless you pay an exorbitant fee to them, so any pics I linked from Photobucket to the forum will have gone and the same will apply to many others.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on August 27, 2017, 03:06:02 PM
Maybe if anyone is interested in seeing photos that have gone missing, they could PM the originator for a copy or to repost. (if photo is still available).
I'm sure most forum members would be happy to oblige.
:beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 27, 2017, 03:07:21 PM
Quote from: Ian Bowden on August 27, 2017, 12:00:21 PM
Went to pick my apples yesterday. Not one left not even a windfall. One of my neighbours asked me last year for some I suspect she has had them all this year - unfortunately no proof
I would just mention to her that you have been spraying them with hormones  to promote the growth and unfortunately the apples are not fit for human consumption this year.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: broadsword on August 27, 2017, 03:32:34 PM
Quote from: Malc on August 27, 2017, 03:07:21 PM
Quote from: Ian Bowden on August 27, 2017, 12:00:21 PM
Went to pick my apples yesterday. Not one left not even a windfall. One of my neighbours asked me last year for some I suspect she has had them all this year - unfortunately no proof
I would just mention to her that you have been spraying them with hormones  to promote the growth and unfortunately the apples are not fit for human consumption this year.

Inject them with Ebola virus and she won't be picking your fruit in future !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on August 27, 2017, 05:10:28 PM
Quote from: cudders on August 24, 2017, 09:21:46 PM
Fed up of threads on here with no bloody photos.
...

Why do you want to see photos of blood and gore? ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ian Bowden on August 27, 2017, 10:49:08 PM
Quote from: RailGooner on August 27, 2017, 05:10:28 PM
Quote from: cudders on August 24, 2017, 09:21:46 PM
Fed up of threads on here with no bloody photos.
...

Why do you want to see photos of blood and gore? ???
if I find out who nicked my apples I will oblige
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on August 27, 2017, 10:57:13 PM
Quote from: Ian Bowden on August 27, 2017, 10:49:08 PM
Quote from: RailGooner on August 27, 2017, 05:10:28 PM
Quote from: cudders on August 24, 2017, 09:21:46 PM
Fed up of threads on here with no bloody photos.
...

Why do you want to see photos of blood and gore? ???
if I find out who nicked my apples I will oblige

Just bought a 3 metre telescopic fruit picker - great fun. Didn't have many apples this year though due to woolly aphids.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ian Bowden on August 27, 2017, 11:14:37 PM
I have one of those it will be handy to pick the two or three apples I have left very high up on my cooking apple tree. My neighbour hasn't a tall enough ladder
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on August 28, 2017, 06:20:40 AM
Plenty of apples on our single Bramley.

The sheep in the next field have been enjoying the windfalls so far.

Last year we had so many we couldn't give them away and were taking crate loads down to the local pub that breeds pigs; brew their own beer too!  :pint:

I understand that cookers aren't good for horses as they can bring on colic.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 28, 2017, 09:29:37 AM
Quote from: RailGooner on August 27, 2017, 10:57:13 PM
Quote from: Ian Bowden on August 27, 2017, 10:49:08 PM
Quote from: RailGooner on August 27, 2017, 05:10:28 PM
Quote from: cudders on August 24, 2017, 09:21:46 PM
Fed up of threads on here with no bloody photos.
...

Why do you want to see photos of blood and gore? ???
if I find out who nicked my apples I will oblige

Just bought a 3 metre telescopic fruit picker - great fun.

Hmmm. You don't live next door to Ian, do you? :hmmm: :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on August 28, 2017, 09:42:09 AM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on August 28, 2017, 09:43:09 AM
Me too :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ozzie Bill. on September 13, 2017, 09:17:11 AM
8 years free of the bloody C, 8 years. Now I have an abscess on my jaw and been told that it's a new tumour. Back through the whole bloody charade again. Last time was 12 hours in surgery, this time, who knows. Complete removal of the reconstructed jaw and some of my "native" jaw and then some form of reconstruction. They are not even sure they can do a complete rebuild I may well end up with only part of a jaw. That would be a bit irksome as it would mean all my meals would have to be liquid. Where's the fun in that!
To say I was upset would be a mild understatement.
Sorry, rant over.
Anyway, a few weeks (3-4) before surgery so at least I can keep busy now with work and I will have time afterwards for some modelling, which will be good. I have a few buildings and things in the drawer that I can pull out and start on once I am back home from the operation.
You know, funny thing is, just sharing with you blokes has already made me feel less upset, so thank you for being here, even in cyberspace.
One of the upsetting things is that my poor wife works away from home most weeks and I have not had the heart to tell her yet. I'll wait until tomorrow when she gets home. I think that I am dreading her reaction more than anything. I am OK with it, but I know she will struggle.
Off to do useful things now. Cheers, Bill.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on September 13, 2017, 09:23:08 AM
It'll be fine mate.  :thumbsup:

Aussie saying.... no worries, mate.

Good luck with the upcoming procedure.  :beers:

George
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: woodbury22uk on September 13, 2017, 09:41:40 AM
Sorry to hear your news Bill. Let's hope they can work a miracle with preserving your jaw. We'll be thinking of you.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 13, 2017, 09:42:39 AM
After 8 years that must have come as a shock, Bill (understatement no doubt).
Please remember, we are all here for you. When I had a triple bypass which went slightly awry I just could not believe the support I received from the guys and gals on the forum which, 18 months later, still brings a tear to my legseyes when I recall it. All best wishes to you and your wife.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on September 13, 2017, 10:47:16 AM
I wish you all the best Bill Im sure everything will.work out in the end you beat it once you can again.
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on September 13, 2017, 11:06:40 AM
My very best wishes to you Bill. I can hardly begin to imagine how you must be feeling, but know that your wife will be your greatest support through whatever lies ahead.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ozzie Bill. on September 13, 2017, 11:13:18 AM
Thanks to all. Yes, I know I will be fine just miffed it happened twice. Ah, well, still got some teef and my motorbikes so life still has some good things eh. Cheers guys and thanks again
Bill.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on September 13, 2017, 05:22:10 PM
Just caught your post Bill.

Commiserations - (as if that helps!) - but I do wish you and yours the very best.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on September 13, 2017, 07:37:58 PM
Sorry to hear that Bill. One thing to bear in mind - when they say they may not be able to fully reconstruct, push them harder and/or get a second opinion. These days they are doing miracles with 3D printing parts for reconstruction. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16907104 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16907104)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Graham on September 13, 2017, 11:03:46 PM
Sorry to hear, hope all goes well with the procedure. as you say look at it from the up side at least you will have some time afterwards to do some modelling.
cheers
Graham
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on September 14, 2017, 12:30:30 AM
Sorry to read your news Bill. Best wishes to you. :heart:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ozzie Bill. on September 14, 2017, 06:56:38 AM
Thanks all. Yes, I am actually looking forward to the enforced time out so I can get back to the trains. I have missed out on them big time recently and want to have fun with it.
Cheers, Bill.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 14, 2017, 10:26:11 AM
Yesterday Royal Mail attempted to deliver a parcel while I was out so left a card asking me to go to the parcels office next day to collect. All well and good so far, but looking at the card it stated collect from the Chorley parcels office which is 5 miles further away from the Leyland parcels office, which is only 1½ miles from where I live. My first reaction was I'd call the number on the card and make them redeliver the parcel but, being in th'area this morning I called into the Leyland office and asked why the card said collect from Chorley, whereupon I was informed the postie concerned was not the sharpest tool in the box and that Leyland had my parcel. When I asked what would have happened if I'd gone to Chorley and the parcel wasn't there, I just got a shrug of the shoulders. My postie is also the sort who folds every envelope in half before leaving them half in/half out of the letter box, so perhaps he is half sharp ::)
End of rant.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on September 14, 2017, 10:30:04 AM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:

At least your letterboxes are in the front door.... I have to walk up the driveway!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ian Bowden on September 14, 2017, 11:56:33 AM
My postman is very good he leaves parcels next door to avoid  me having to collect them. Slight problem is he does that even if I am at home
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 14, 2017, 12:52:37 PM
Quote from: Bealman on September 14, 2017, 10:30:04 AM
:laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:

At least your letterboxes are in the front door.... I have to walk up the driveway!

Sorry, George. I forgot about your 2 mile tree lined drive to Chez Bealman ;)

Quote from: Ian Bowden on September 14, 2017, 11:56:33 AM
My postman is very good he leaves parcels next door to avoid  me having to collect them. Slight problem is he does that even if I am at home

:laughabovepost:
Play your music louder, Ian.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on September 14, 2017, 01:43:44 PM
The Postie is not a problem He knows to walk round the back of the fence and put boxes into the back of our post cupboard. The couriers are another thing, often not even bothering to knock on the door, but just sticking a card in the door frame a which says sorry you are not in, collect in Norwich(25 miles way). I've seen them arrive and do that so they had the card pre written out.....

I'm currently building a new front wall alongside our driveway which will have an externally accessed cupboard which locks when pushed to for them to deliver parcels into..

We have no letter box in the front door  because we face the North Sea....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scottmitchell74 on September 19, 2017, 06:21:41 AM
I've got a "dead-in-the-water" Broadway Limited $180.00 item. Brand new, first attempt on track...nothing.

Everything else I own runs just fine on the track. Merchant won't issue a shipping label. I must spend $10.00 to send it back. The end result? $20...to just look at the thing!

Furious!!!!!!  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on September 19, 2017, 06:29:04 AM
Disappointing and not good customer relations!

Bet you won't be giving that guy any more business.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 19, 2017, 10:11:07 AM
Maybe said merchant ought to be reminded it takes years to build a good reputation and 5 minutes to lose it. ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: BoxTunnel on September 19, 2017, 10:21:34 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on September 19, 2017, 10:11:07 AM
Maybe said merchant ought to be reminded it takes years to build a good reputation and 5 minutes to lose it. ::)

Exactly.  I spent four years assembling Honda cars in their Swindon plant.  Every day we were reminded that it has taken us decades to build our reputation but we could lose it overnight.  When Mercedes were having QC problems ten years ago we had them touring our plant to see how it should be done!

Us Brits don't complain too much, we just don't go back, hence Wickes will never get another penny from me due to an ignorant youth on the other end of the 'phone.

Graham, living for the vendetta.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: BoxTunnel on September 24, 2017, 03:48:48 AM
Human Resources.  A cesspool of idiots that have absolutely no idea how to do anything but think they know better than you.

I have a meeting with one such idiot on Monday and unless we decide that actually I AM right, I will be handing in my notice.  Already got a job lined up just in case!

:censored:

Graham, may have a little more time for the layout soon!

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 24, 2017, 08:55:54 AM
I have to admit to sharing your thoughts on HR types, especially the way my redundancy was handled ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on September 24, 2017, 09:43:38 AM
Doesn't matter if you are in the UK or the antipodes, Mick.

It's the same here.  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 29, 2017, 03:53:02 PM
I take pride in my car and am getting sick and tired of parking in supermarket car parks only to return to it and find another small nick of paint gone. I do my best not to park next to Chelsea tractors or 3 door cars, and do try to park next to cars that also look as if they've been cared for but obviously some people are either downright clumsy or just don't give a damn. :veryangry:
I guess I'll have to see how much 'Chip away' will nobble me as I don't want anything rusting.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on September 29, 2017, 04:09:39 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on September 29, 2017, 03:53:02 PM
I take pride in my car and am getting sick and tired of parking in supermarket car parks only to return to it and find another small nick of paint gone. I do my best not to park next to Chelsea tractors or 3 door cars, and do try to park next to cars that also look as if they've been cared for but obviously some people are either downright clumsy or just don't give a damn. :veryangry:
I guess I'll have to see how much 'Chip away' will nobble me as I don't want anything rusting.
Yes its infuriating. I think the main problem is that cars are getting bigger whilst the car park slots are the same width they've been for years. Makes it much more likely you're gonna get a car park ding.
No excuse for being careless I know, but small blemishes and scratches and almost inevitable these days.
Perhaps they should sell new cars with an assortment of minor scratches already on them. Nobody would bother then.  :no: :no: :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on September 29, 2017, 04:54:01 PM
My bro in law got an almost new car just recently. Chuffed to bits he was with his new toy.

He stayed a happy bunny until the other morning when he found that someone overnight had 'keyed' one side of the entire length of the car.

Carpark dings are thoughtless and infuriating but that is senseless vandalism.

Cost to fix: £1050.

Dave G

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on September 29, 2017, 05:04:23 PM
Now theres a missed opportunity for an entrepreneur to go to.Dragons Den  with.
Start up a company Professional.Car Scratching  and Door Nicks done without care .Bring your car to.us and we will.put dents and scratches on then apply Lacquer to stop them rusting..
Sorry I just had to say that.
But it is annoying Val had her car  damaged in the hospital.carpark while she was at work ,after getting it repaired she went to work ,came out and yes youve guessed there was a scratch on.the nice new paintwork .Now that  shes retired and cant afford to get it fixed so shes completly lost interest in the car .
So I can imagine how angry you must be.
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bikeracer on September 30, 2017, 08:51:50 AM
Skoda Kodiaq has a new idea to stop doors causing damage, when the door opens a rubber protector comes out to protect the edge of the door and stop it causing damage.

Of course this doesn't stop other cars causing you damage, but if other manufacturers followed suite it would help to keep paint damage down.

Allan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GrahamB on September 30, 2017, 08:54:46 AM
Quote from: Bikeracer on September 30, 2017, 08:51:50 AM
Skoda Kodiaq has a new idea to stop doors causing damage, when the door opens a rubber protector comes out to protect the edge of the door and stop it causing damage.

Of course this doesn't stop other cars causing you damage, but if other manufacturers followed suite it would help to keep paint damage down.

Allan
It's not a new idea. I've got it on my Ford Focus.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on September 30, 2017, 09:19:38 AM
Nothing much is different here. For some reason, most of the general public do not understand that road rules apply to shopping centre carparks.

And the speed!

No indicators, swing in quick, etc. Walking to your car is a gamble!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on September 30, 2017, 09:31:14 AM
Carparks around here can be more dangerous than the roads!

Looking forward to but also in quiet fear of the delivery of our new car due very soon. Bound to be a victim of those  careless/jealous folk but I shall try and park well clear of others.  :worried:

Dave G

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on September 30, 2017, 09:32:43 AM
Quote from: Bealman on September 30, 2017, 09:19:38 AM
Nothing much is different here. For some reason, most of the general public do not understand that road rules apply to shopping centre carparks.

And the speed!

No indicators, swing in quick, etc. Walking to your car is a gamble!

And that's just the shopping trolley drivers! :o

:D

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on September 30, 2017, 09:33:47 AM
That's right!  ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on September 30, 2017, 09:35:14 AM
Quote from: daveg on September 30, 2017, 09:31:14 AM
Carparks around here can be more dangerous than the roads!

Looking forward to but also in quiet fear of the delivery of our new car due very soon. Bound to be a victim of those  careless/jealous folk but I shall try and park well clear of others.  :worried:

Dave G

A roller, then, Dave?  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on September 30, 2017, 09:42:28 AM
Quote from: Bealman on September 30, 2017, 09:35:14 AM
Quote from: daveg on September 30, 2017, 09:31:14 AM
Carparks around here can be more dangerous than the roads!

Looking forward to but also in quiet fear of the delivery of our new car due very soon. Bound to be a victim of those  careless/jealous folk but I shall try and park well clear of others.  :worried:

Dave G

A roller, then, Dave?  :D

Well, it will have the same number of wheels, George but that's as close as it gets!  ::)

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: woodbury22uk on September 30, 2017, 09:45:49 AM
A cloak of invisibility descended on our local supermarket several years back and it has never been lifted. Invisible drivers in cars are in the pick-up/set-down bays; the parent and child spaces are occupied by cars containing invisible children; the disabled parking bays have occupants who probably don't meet the specification, and do not display a disabled permit. Some cars seem to have invisible extensions on each side which mean the driver has to park in the middle of two parking bays. Back in the old days when cars displayed tax discs a good third of the ones afflicted by the invisibility cloak used to display well out of date discs. Maybe the DVLA computer can help find out if that is still the case.

People push, manoeuvre and park their shopping trolleys with the same skill that they drive their cars. One shopper whacked my cars bumper with her trolley. Luckily the plastic sprung back without a mark. She was a bit surprised to see me sitting in the car when she did it, and hastily apologised! 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on September 30, 2017, 09:46:14 AM
To be honest I have quite given up on worrying about scratches on my car. Within a few months of buying a new car it seems to acquire a multifarious collection of marks and scratches that appear, as it were, from out of the aether. Most I don't doubt are from careless pedestrians, armed with shopping trolleys, baby -buggies, armour-plated bags, and even jewellery. Just a few come from those oiks who delight in inflicting deliberate damage, while, where I live at least, narrow country lanes with overgrown hedges present their own army of lascerators, particularly when that other pet-hate of mine comes the other way - the driver who expects you to divert into said hedge so they can pass at high speed without spoiling their nice clean wheels on the verge.

No, nowadays I just clean the car, smile ruefully at yet another blemish to the paintwork, slap on a wodge of polish, and swear at the Moon once more. All else is folly - and expensive - as any greater attempts to return the car to 'showroom condition' are doomed to failure as the next hedge, trolley or sauntering fool is even now looking for a car just like mine - and yours!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GrahamB on September 30, 2017, 11:04:52 AM
The best sticker I ever saw was on my friends Landrover 90. It was old, tired and dented. The sticker read;

"This vehicle has been in ten crashes. Not lost one yet".

No-one ever parked anywhere near it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on September 30, 2017, 01:13:05 PM
Living in a similar type of area as Daffy I have also encountered said road/lane hogs.

With regard to hazardous shoppers and carparks, I recall seeing a lady who got out of her car, withdrew a child seat complete with infant and promptly deposited same on the roof of the car next to her while she organised the buggy.

'Careful!' says I, all polite and smiling: 'It's only a car.' was the reply.

Gobsmacked.

Dave G

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on September 30, 2017, 01:35:11 PM
Quote from: daveg on September 30, 2017, 01:13:05 PM
Living in a similar type of area as Daffy I have also encountered said road/lane hogs.

With regard to hazardous shoppers and carparks, I recall seeing a lady who got out of her car, withdrew a child seat complete with infant and promptly deposited same on the roof of the car next to her while she organised the buggy.

'Careful!' says I, all polite and smiling: 'It's only a car.' was the reply.

Gobsmacked.

Dave G

Judging by the number of images of baby seats on top of cars that appear on Google it seems that is evidently what the large flat area - a.k.a. Roof - is especially made for. :goggleeyes:

I do hope baby never gets left there when the car drives off! :o But I suppose that scenario is inevitable, someday, somewhere. :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 30, 2017, 03:14:50 PM
I still can't get my head round why people reverse into spaces in the centre of shopping car parks as that means to get to the boot you have to go down the side of a vehicle. When you do that with a trolley guess what happens? ::)
Is it really easier to do that than to drive in and reverse out? :confused1:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on September 30, 2017, 04:19:17 PM
Reversing out without looking is a favourite pastime at my local Tesco car park.

The idea of the game seems to be to get as close as possible to a pedestrian, baby in a pushchair, a shopping trolley (manned or orphan), or another vehicle. I believe points are awarded for the closest 'miss' of the day by members of the Tesco branch of the Trolley Gatherers Association, who are usually best placed to judge these events.

Extra points are earned for fast acceleration away from the scene as this can create more chances to 'miss' one of the aforementioned items.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on September 30, 2017, 06:21:08 PM
Quote from: daveg on September 30, 2017, 01:13:05 PM
Living in a similar type of area as Daffy I have also encountered said road/lane hogs.


And most of the road/lane hogs are driving big SUV things! Recently the local council put in a few 'passing places' on a couple of lanes near where I live and the number of times the driver coming the other way does not slow down so I can pull into one  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on September 30, 2017, 07:44:12 PM
I know just what you mean David, but some of the SUV's* commonly coming at me lately look like this :

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/5634-300917193758.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56266) (internet pic)

* Seriously 'Uge Vehicles

I tend to give way.  ;) Happily the drivers of these monsters are most considerate, which can't be said for a lot of the tractor/trailer cowboys that daily hurtle about the local lanes - usually accompanied by a screeching slide of tyres on damp roads! :veryangry:


Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on September 30, 2017, 08:39:00 PM
 :laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Zogbert Splod on September 30, 2017, 09:55:04 PM
I was recently driving on the motorway.  Probably doing around 60mph.  I was passed by a small car, a Fiesta I think.  He was doing a lot more than I was.  There was a car battery sitting on his roof.  No roof rack or anything like that, just sitting there...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 30, 2017, 10:01:38 PM
The police should have charged him
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on September 30, 2017, 10:22:01 PM
I bet he got a shock when he got home.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on September 30, 2017, 10:25:54 PM
Perhaps he'd made a volt bolt for it.  ;D

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on September 30, 2017, 10:40:04 PM
It would be handy if the one under the bonnet packed up as it's Ever Ready.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Zogbert Splod on September 30, 2017, 10:51:29 PM
 :confusedsign: Poo!  I think I posted that story in the (poor) jokes thread!  :no:  :sorrysign:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: cudders on October 04, 2017, 10:00:01 PM
Never sell your unwanted items to a model railway shop.

Today I took about £800 worth of stuff and the offer was £140. I almost laughed then then said max would be £200.

I appreciate they have to make a profit but greed makes me mad  :censored:

Cudders
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on October 04, 2017, 10:09:58 PM
Sadly this is the case with practically every commodity. The shops have margins and profits to make but in my experience offers are often ridiculously low. They do of course have to cover the risks involved in purchasing stock of which they have no prior knowledge or experience of how good it is, and their offer will always be assessed against what they can buy stock for in the first place from their usual suppliers, which of course is well below what we, the punters, pay for it.

I have made it a rule never to sell to a shop, but to market privately. A hassle, but I'm left with more money and my pride.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on October 04, 2017, 10:19:38 PM
QuoteToday I took about £800 worth of stuff and the offer was £140. I almost laughed then then said max would be £200.
Buy for a 1/4 sell for a 1/3 of  the new price,as taught to me many moons ago.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on October 05, 2017, 08:35:35 AM
Quote from: themadhippy on October 04, 2017, 10:19:38 PM
QuoteToday I took about £800 worth of stuff and the offer was £140. I almost laughed then then said max would be £200.
Buy for a 1/4 sell for a 1/3 of  the new price,as taught to me many moons ago.
If you're talking about some of the larger retailers then its buy for a 1/4 and sell for 1 and a bit... Check out the rails ebay shop. Some of the prices are higher than new!!!
I'm in the wrong business??
:beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 05, 2017, 09:07:10 AM
Quote from: austinbob on October 05, 2017, 08:35:35 AM
Quote from: themadhippy on October 04, 2017, 10:19:38 PM
QuoteToday I took about £800 worth of stuff and the offer was £140. I almost laughed then then said max would be £200.
Buy for a 1/4 sell for a 1/3 of  the new price,as taught to me many moons ago.
If you're talking about some of the larger retailers then its buy for a 1/4 and sell for 1 and a bit... Check out the rails ebay shop. Some of the prices are higher than new!!!
I'm in the wrong business??
:beers:

Said retailers other favourite game at the moment is constantly re-listing eBay items. I don't know if it's to avoid fees (new rules?) but I am getting e-Mail notifications for my set-up subject watch list for the same item over and over again, sometimes 2 or 3 times a week.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 05, 2017, 10:03:31 AM
Sorry to be so grave, folks, but it's worth informing your nearest and dearest of this in the event you shuttle off this mortal coil. OK, you personally are not going to be concerned, but any instruction you can give will help your loved ones/relatives get the optimum price. If a forum friend can be persuaded to help them out so much the better. All and any proceeds of my model railway items will be going to Help 4 Heroes so I'd like to think I'd get more than the shops would offer (should I worry about snipers now?) :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on October 11, 2017, 09:37:56 AM
Just arrived at work where there is always refurbishment going on in some part or other of the building. Spotted a comms cabinet in a skip outside the main entrance. The cabinet is virtually pristine. A similar new one would cost around £400. I'm currently working in temporary accommodation while my regular workspace is refurbished. Part of that refurbishment is to fit a comms cabinet where we previously didn't have one. Haven't had a pay rise in 5 years and no wonder with such profligate (mis)management. :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on October 11, 2017, 12:34:06 PM
RailGooner go and ask if you can have it, nothing ventured nothing gained younever know your luck.
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: v200 on October 12, 2017, 01:55:05 PM

"Today I took about £800 worth of stuff and the offer was £140. I almost laughed then then said max would be £200."

Is that £800 at your prices or new prices ? Most people vastly estimate the value of their second hand equipment
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on October 12, 2017, 02:12:23 PM
Quote from: Bob Tidbury on October 11, 2017, 12:34:06 PM
RailGooner go and ask if you can have it, nothing ventured nothing gained younever know your luck.
Bob Tidbury

Bob, I asked my line manager if any refurbishment projects in the foreseeable future called for a new cabinet, and relayed what I'd found in the skip. He was very interested and went to have a look. He returned nearly as angry as I was. He'd ordered it for a future refurb' project and had 'stored' it until needed. Along came the building manager who decided since he didn't know anything about it, he'd throw it out.  :smiley-laughing:

I work at a world famous university in Oxford, which ought really to be infamous as an example of the worst mismanagement known to mankind. :'( >:( :veryangry: :censored: :help:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on October 12, 2017, 02:32:53 PM
I arrived at tescos one morning 15 years ago, where i was the in store technician to see  them throwing 20 lengths of aluminum angle into the skip. It had arrived after I left for work the day before addressed to me. The instore manager decided he didn't want it cluttering up his store so ordered it thrown away when he arrived in the morning.

No one thought to put in the ISTs room... I had to order another lot, I wasn't clambering around in a skip. I also told my technical boss what had happended and he reordered as well, so I had two lots.... handy that , it's not long ago I've finished using it all
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on October 12, 2017, 04:30:35 PM
Marketing. Apologies to anyone involved in marketing who knows their stuff, but have been involved in some conversations recently which go along the lines "if you want to release product X by arbitrary date Y, please feel free to do the grunt work yourself, and while you're at it stick your 'marketing story' where the sun don't shine, 'cos while I have a verifiable track record of going the extra unit length if necessary, from now on I will refuse to jump just because it makes your Gantt charts look good." :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on October 12, 2017, 04:40:42 PM
Not only agree with you @railsquid (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3832) , but have been banjaxed sever times like that myself. I quoted to build a TV studio in Wales. It was a 6 week build. When we turned up on site, the customer said that they had got Tom Jones to open the studio, but it would be in 3 weeks, not 6. I had to get extra hands in and worked 12 hour days, but we did it. When we billed the customer for the extras, he complained. We still made him pay because I kept good records.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Yet_Another on October 12, 2017, 07:21:34 PM
Quote from: railsquid on October 12, 2017, 04:30:35 PM
... just because it makes your Gantt charts look good." :veryangry:
Don't get me started on Gantt charts.

Particularly when a certain box shifter can't even be bothered to start packing my order of Tuesday night, when they took the money immediately.  :censored: :censored: :censored:

I need the stuff on Saturday. Chances of getting it?  >:( :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Yet_Another on October 12, 2017, 08:16:19 PM
Don't get me started on people being reasonable in the angry thread, either. I'M HERE TO BE ANGRY!

Otherwise, what's the point?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 12, 2017, 08:50:08 PM
Quote from: Malc on October 12, 2017, 04:40:42 PM
We still made him pay because I kept good records.

Presumably they were Tom Jones records, Malc. It's not unusual. :-X
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on October 13, 2017, 09:53:08 AM
I need a certain piece of TEST equipment to calibrate a unit that they want out today,
I CAME IN TODAY TO FIND THAT SAME SECTION THAT WANTS THAT UNIT SHIPPED, HAS "BORROWED" THE TEST EQUIPMENT.... :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ian Bowden on October 16, 2017, 09:06:36 AM
A parcel of coffee was delivered to me last week while I just nipped out. I found it on the doorstep in full view. I have one of these doorbell where I can talk to the caller over the internet. Looking at the footage of the delivery he stood at the door ignored the doorbell and tapped once on the glass looked round and put the parcel on the step.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on October 16, 2017, 09:08:25 AM
But you have got the coffee?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Evans on October 20, 2017, 08:14:52 AM
You order something for a specific day and then you get that dreaded email, your parcel has been delayed. They delivered it too the wrong local depot! Only 70 miles apart. I know these things happen, but I wanted and needed it today cos Im home  :( and finally why oh why do they put really expensive items which need my signature in the recycling box!
OK rant over, time to mope all day.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on October 20, 2017, 09:25:05 AM
You get the phone call from the white Van man, I'm Just coming out of********** where are you.

To which I reply 40 miles away, you've got the wrong *********.

The parcel has to go back to his depot Kings Lynn, transfered to the Norwich depot , then sent out on a round from there....
I get the parcel to find someone had crossed out the first three letters of my post code and substituted the code for the other*********
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on October 20, 2017, 09:31:25 AM
I agree with you Evans I am going to arrange a very special delivery for my Pendolino as like you I have had a supposed signed for parcel put in the recycling bin and I dont want that recycled.
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 20, 2017, 09:59:14 AM
Hope no one gets theirs delivered by Yodel or it could end up on the roof! :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on October 20, 2017, 10:59:35 AM
But the coffee?  ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on October 20, 2017, 11:19:11 AM
Oddly related - ordered a few bike parts on the 15th from Evans, not our illustrious member, but the cycle store. Needed for tomorrow latest as I am delivering a present of a brand new cycle to my grand-daughter in Didcot on Monday and these parts are a few essential accessories.
No delivery so just rang them as I note their online order history still says 'processing'  >:(

Nice chap answers - "er....um... looks like this order has not been placed in our system......... looks like it's been cancelled......"

:veryangry:

We shall see if their "promise" to get them reordered and to me by tomorrow (free delivery) proves honourable. :hmmm:

Like our Evans I shall now mope, and hope, all day.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 20, 2017, 03:18:36 PM
I had the opposite problem last week. I had an order in with Amazon for three items. I got the usual emails stating that the items had been dispatched and would be delivered last Thursday, The items promptly arrived with the postman and I signed for them. No problem. Last Friday, I got emails from Amazon, full of apologies, stating that the items had been delayed and would be delivered in 2 - 3 days!  ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ian Bowden on October 22, 2017, 12:56:11 AM
Ordering from Amazon there is an option to have the item left in a safe place. Along with this is a tick box to use this on all deliveries. I naievly beleived that on subsequent orders that would happen.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: BoxTunnel on October 31, 2017, 01:02:43 PM
Tesco "Finest" dry cured back bacon is nothing of the sort.  So much water came out of it that the stuff was braising, not frying.

I'm done with Tesco.

P.S if the publishers of BRM are wondering why they didn't sell many copies in Cirencester Tesco this month, it's because they were all hidden behind Model Rail.  I fixed the problem but had some strange looks from the security guard whilst I was rearranging their magazine display.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on October 31, 2017, 01:35:13 PM
Quote from: railsquid on October 12, 2017, 04:30:35 PM
Marketing. Apologies to anyone involved in marketing who knows their stuff, but have been involved in some conversations recently which go along the lines "if you want to release product X by arbitrary date Y, please feel free to do the grunt work yourself, and while you're at it stick your 'marketing story' where the sun don't shine, 'cos while I have a verifiable track record of going the extra unit length if necessary, from now on I will refuse to jump just because it makes your Gantt charts look good." :veryangry:
In an unexpected development, Mr. Marketing Gantt Chart appears to have left the company, come to think of it Gantt charts have made a complete disappearance from my life  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on October 31, 2017, 01:58:46 PM
Quote from: BoxTunnel on October 31, 2017, 01:02:43 PM
Tesco "Finest" dry cured back bacon is nothing of the sort.  So much water came out of it that the stuff was braising, not frying.

I'm done with Tesco.

I'm getting the anti-Tesco vibe too! Bacon is really a case in point for me as I have many problems with the 'additives' that get pumped into many meats these days, and the last two lots of Dry Cure I bought were, as you say, full of water. Well, not water exactly, more a chemical-loaded white fluid reminiscent of the stuff you use to cool metal when using a drill or lathe. All my dry-cure now comes from a local butcher, along with all other meat products - better taste, better quality, and often no dearer.

And then there's their Clubcard. We have had Clubcard Plus accounts since their inception in 199?, but now Tesco have decided to end them, and despite promises to the contrary, have not replaced them with a standard Clubcard.

Along with other complaints - including the lack of provision on their magazine racks of 'Continental Modeller' - we visit Tesco less frequently these days.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 31, 2017, 07:48:52 PM
I do not how/if Tesco Ireland differs from Tesco Uk, but because of my shift patterns, we do our shopping at Asda in Enniskillen, (Northern Ireland), every second week and Tesco Ireland on the alternate weeks. We spend in the region of €140 in Asda and €70 in Tesco!! 'Nuff said. Unfortunately, we do not have the likes of Morrisons or Sainsburys in the Republic and, whilst there are, (expensive), 'home grown' grocery chains here, it is well worth paying, in time and diesel, to drive to Enniskillen - a nice place to visit if any of you are in that area. The fact that my nearest model shop is in Enniskillen is a pure coincidence!  ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on October 31, 2017, 08:10:54 PM
Whenever we are over, we do our main shopping in Enniskillen and just top-ups in SuperValu in Bundoran or the Spar in Ballyshannon. Aside from anything else, as we are usually over for holidays, much alcohol is consumed and the prices in the Republic are criminal!

Oh and I can confirm that the Tesco in Enniskillen is very much like our local Tescos around Manchester (even similar layouts)  - except for having to check which tills you can and can't buy alcohol from and having the alcohol shelves in a fenced off area.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: JBQFC on November 21, 2017, 04:21:30 PM
this is angry with a happy ending
i got a parcel delivered this morning by royal mail as he give it to me he points out another parcel tucked under a bush by the door from amazon
so i go on to they web site and find it was delivered and signed for on Friday well not signed for by me  :censored:
thankfully the contents a board game are ok
so i sent an angry Email off to Amazon complaining to they credit it only took them 29 minutes to reply with a lot of waffle about how they will look in to it this never happens very often etc etc but also giving me a £5 credit  :claphappy: 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 21, 2017, 09:14:07 PM
I ordered some vouchers for a clothing store for my sister and Mum for Christmas and they were sent 'signed for' to me. As I was not in when the postie delivered them he just shoved them through the letter box and, I have to assume, just made his own signature for them :unimpressed:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on November 21, 2017, 09:35:34 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on November 21, 2017, 09:14:07 PM
I ordered some vouchers for a clothing store for my sister and Mum for Christmas and they were sent 'signed for' to me. As I was not in when the postie delivered them he just shoved them through the letter box and, I have to assume, just made his own signature for them :unimpressed:

Best one we had were 4x Mini (Rover) tyres which were "signed for" by Mrs Skyline.

Well the bloke who (to his credit) brought them round from the road next to ours, having patiently explained that they JUST missed his Koi pond after being slung over his gate, disagreed.

A complaint was lodged with currier and they came back saying the driver "accidentally" signed in the recipient box.... :no:

Skyline2uk 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on December 05, 2017, 01:25:47 PM
I am the only one in this department who can earn overtime, which tells you how lowly I am...

Just over a year ago it was decreed by a manager in another country, that everyone in this department would have, a certain project on their objectives.
This year that manager has decreed no one will get more than 85% on that project as it is not yet complete....

I have yet to do anything with this project, as I only get to test it when it is complete..

So my annual pay rise, as little as it is, will be less than average, because of something  I have had nothing to do with...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on December 05, 2017, 01:45:10 PM
I feel the anger with you Q. My employers have made a pay recommendation of 1%, which after inflation will amount to a pay cut of 3%. That on top of the 23.6% real-terms fall in my wages since 2008. And they want to cut my pension too.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on December 14, 2017, 11:20:17 PM
Waited in all day today because of a attempted delivery of a parcel I did not know was coming yesterday. On the card put through the door from UPS it said it will be delivered tomorrow(today). Anyway after a nightmare trying to communicate with one of those auto answering things I eventully spoke to a humam being and found the parcel had been dropped off at a nearby collection point in a street I had never heard of in my town. To make matters worse when I got home and checked the parcel it would have gone through the letterbox anyway. So a waste of a day, well not quite I did a few of the jobs that swmbo wanted doing, just a annoying day.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 17, 2017, 02:20:40 AM
I know we're coming up on Christmas, but this really got me annoyed.

I rarely go into the centre of town, but now I know why. The local council in all it's amazing wisdom decided to put an "ART" installation into the shopping mall. All at the cost of a mere $450,000 of local ratepayers' money.

I'll let the pictures speak for themselves.  :worried:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/255-171217013100.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/255-171217013329.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/255-171217013640.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/255-171217013901.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/255-171217014129.jpeg)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on December 17, 2017, 07:15:07 AM
Blimey!  :o  ???

All that for just $450,000?  :-X 

If it wasn't for the money you could simply ignore it. Meanwhile George, I wish you and yours a happy Christmas and a great 2018.

Dave G

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Webbo on December 17, 2017, 07:42:00 AM
George, you're probably upset that you didn't think that the council would pay such enormous money for such art. That is, you missed out. Fancy not even having the palm trees planted in the ground. These are going to look really good when the trees die.

We've had this guy or one of his buddies around here. In our case, he (or perhaps she) got paid $150,000 for leaving a pile of scrap steel beside the road. Should have been fined instead for littering.

Webbo
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 17, 2017, 08:10:55 AM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Hope that art isn't at the bottom of your street!

Regarding the palm trees, those big bulbous things at the bottom are presumably full of soil and nutrients to keep them alive. Who knows. :doh:

Wasn't it the Japanese artist Christo who built a curtain over a canyon and wrapped up an Australian coast?

Weird, expensive and annoying rubbish.  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 17, 2017, 08:48:12 AM
Quote from: daveg on December 17, 2017, 07:15:07 AM
Blimey!  :o  ???

All that for just $450,000?  :-X 

If it wasn't for the money you could simply ignore it. Meanwhile George, I wish you and yours a happy Christmas and a great 2018.

Dave G

Cheers, Dave. All the best to you and all your family.  :beers: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Webbo on December 17, 2017, 09:22:43 AM
Quote from: Bealman on December 17, 2017, 08:10:55 AM
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Hope that art isn't at the bottom of your street!

Regarding the palm trees, those big bulbous things at the bottom are presumably full of soil and nutrients to keep them alive. Who knows. :doh:

Weird, expensive and annoying rubbish.  >:(

I hope you're not referring to my car as the pile of steel on my street? Anyway I'd accept $150,000 for it to transfer ownership to the city. Watering a root ball that is 20' in the air is going to cost your council a fair bit in ongoing costs I expect.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 17, 2017, 09:26:53 AM
Thanks, Ian, funny but it's not  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Webbo on December 17, 2017, 09:56:12 AM
I agree - paying taxes is not funny. The selection of our politicians is a serious game that too many in our society think is a boring exercise. I certainly don't think so.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 17, 2017, 10:35:47 AM
Mate, without getting into a political argument here which is not allowed anyway, my point is what sort of mind condones this stuff when they won't keep the creek next to my place clear?  :thumbsup: :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on December 17, 2017, 11:42:29 AM
Looks like something left behind by a hurricane!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 17, 2017, 11:51:39 AM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:

Doesn't it!

It's art, though.  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on December 17, 2017, 12:11:46 PM
Bealman I just dont understand how the waste of public funds are allowed ,that money would have been better spent on the elderly , lonely or homeless or on a community center or hospital not flittered away on rubbish like that .I can guarantee that there was a backhander involved in that childish bit of so called art ,my two year old granddaughter could have come up with a better idea .I bet there are stronger words than that being said but what can us mere members of the public do about it,we dont have a say in it I bet that the idea wasnt publicised before it was stuck there.
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on December 17, 2017, 12:21:50 PM
People probably said the same thing about the Sydney Opera House when it was unveiled  :)

Ducks for cover !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on December 17, 2017, 12:28:40 PM
Quote from: Bealman on December 17, 2017, 08:10:55 AM

Wasn't it the Japanese artist Christo who built a curtain over a canyon and wrapped up an Australian coast?

Weird, expensive and annoying rubbish.  >:(

I know the Japanese have an obsession with wrapping things but this Christo fellow is not Japanese at all, from Bulgaria originally IIRC. Wrapped other things like the Reichstag building in Berlin.

Anyway I wonder how many palms were greased for the "installation" in question here?

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on December 17, 2017, 12:49:40 PM
He also did the Pont Neuf, the oldest bridge in Paris.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on December 17, 2017, 12:51:29 PM
What do I think of municipally funded installation art pieces in the modern day? :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on December 17, 2017, 01:08:16 PM
Ha, cheap! We got "B of the Bang," which cost a mere £2,000,000, was never finished properly, meaning that it all had to be barriered off because it was unsafe and was then sold for scrap for £17,000 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B_of_the_Bang (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B_of_the_Bang)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on December 17, 2017, 01:54:50 PM
I really liked 'B of The Bang'. Didn't understand why it was sited where it was though.

I like 'The Angel of The North'. I've seen it several times, on footie trips to Sunderland. I'd never have made the trip to Gateshead just to see it. There are quite a few Gormleys around Oxford too, but all paid for privately by Colleges. A waste of money? Don't care really - it's their money not mine (or ours).

I'm not against municipal art - IMO done well it really can enrich peoples lives. But, again IMO, municipal committees prove time and time again that they have very poor taste and no ability to assess the monetary value of public art. I don't know how much Gormley was paid for the 'The Angel of The North' but I'd wager that the marketing value of that commission has generated more profit for 'Gormley PLC' than that commission itself has. The exposure an artist gains from a municipal commission has a value which needs to be factored into the price paid for that work.

Better spending the money on Parks, Libraries, clean streets, etc.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: javlinfaw7 on December 17, 2017, 03:54:35 PM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/55/Lobey_Dosser_1.jpg/180px-Lobey_Dosser_1.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/Bud_Neill%27s_G_I_Bride.jpg/220px-Bud_Neill%27s_G_I_Bride.jpg

These  two recent pieces of municiple art in Glasgow, one by public subscription and one by sponsorship ,and Dundee's Oor Wullie ,Minnie the Minx and Desperate Dan at least show a sense of humour.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 17, 2017, 04:23:07 PM
Quote from: RailGooner on December 17, 2017, 01:54:50 PM
There are quite a few Gormleys around Oxford too


We have 100 Gormleys at Crosby.....

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attraction_Review-g3612508-d1549301-Reviews-Antony_Gormley_s_Another_Place-Crosby_Merseyside_England.html (https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attraction_Review-g3612508-d1549301-Reviews-Antony_Gormley_s_Another_Place-Crosby_Merseyside_England.html)

and more than 100 Gormless in Leyland :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on December 17, 2017, 05:26:23 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on December 17, 2017, 04:23:07 PM
Quote from: RailGooner on December 17, 2017, 01:54:50 PM
There are quite a few Gormleys around Oxford too


We have 100 Gormleys at Crosby.....
...

'Another Place, 1997'. Now, I can remember when this work was first exhibited in Cuxhaven, Germany. I wished for the opportunity to visit. But since all my international travels at that time were strictly football centric, it never happened. When the piece was moved to Crosby, I thought great now I can go and see it.

Shame on me, :-[ over a decade later and I've still not made it.


Quote from: newportnobby on December 17, 2017, 04:23:07 PM
..
and more than 100 Gormless in Leyland :laugh:

We've more than a few of those here too. :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jimbo on December 17, 2017, 05:56:07 PM
"I am iron maaaan!" (Black Sabbath)  :headbang:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 17, 2017, 09:39:58 PM
Thanks for the responses, folks. As Bob said, it's what the money could and should have been spent on that is the saddening aspect of the whole debacle.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 18, 2017, 08:01:58 AM
The Aussies got the Ashes back.

Not sure I'm in the right thread here..... I actually go for Australia in sport, even though I'm still a British citizen. Could be something to do with me being here 40+ years and having daughters who are most definitely Aussies.

Just following on my from palm trees!  ;D :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on December 18, 2017, 08:38:46 AM
Surely you should be happy then? :confused2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 18, 2017, 10:30:02 PM
Yes indeed.  :beers: Sorry!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on December 18, 2017, 11:11:51 PM
Grrrrrr! :veryangry: Folk posting happiness on The Angry Thread! :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 18, 2017, 11:42:41 PM
It worked, though....

It got you angry!  ;D

So thread hijack effectively over  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on December 19, 2017, 06:53:56 AM
Quote from: Bealman on December 18, 2017, 11:42:41 PM
It worked, though....

It got you angry!  ;D

So thread hijack effectively over  :thumbsup:

:veryangry: Even more angry it was deliberate... :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 19, 2017, 07:11:04 AM
Looks like everyone is angry!

Come on folks, it's Christmas  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on December 19, 2017, 08:02:48 AM
Quote from: Bealman on December 19, 2017, 07:11:04 AM
Looks like everyone is angry!

Come on folks, it's Christmas  :beers:

Bah Humbug >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 19, 2017, 08:05:07 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: JohnN on December 19, 2017, 07:54:40 PM
Blooming Argos!  :veryangry:

I've just ordered an iPad as a pressie for my wife. Received 2 emails, one confirming the order and next day delivery, the next saying my order had been cancelled. Confused, I rang them. The iPad wasn't in stock in the colour I selected (even though the website said it was available for delivery) so they helpfully cancelled it. Problem is, the refund won't hit my account until the end of the week. So no iPad and no access to the money for a few days. Luckily i could just about afford to go to a competitor and buy one over the counter. Not everyone will be so fortunate.

The chap I spoke to agreed it was a stupid situation and admitted that their ordering system does not talk to their stock system until after the order is placed so this could happen to anyone. And it looks like it's a regular occurence. I will be writing a few letters of complaint.

Watch out you don't get caught out like me.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: port perran on December 19, 2017, 08:01:52 PM
I'm getting more and more fed up with customer satisfaction surveys. Every time I order something or have dealings with companies, along comes a satisfaction survey.
Recently I gave BT and my Car Insurance Companiy 2/10.  Both had messed me about no end. All that did was prompt a phone call from them wanting to know why I gave them such a low score and what could they do to improve their service?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on December 19, 2017, 08:02:27 PM
Quote from: JohnN on December 19, 2017, 07:54:40 PM
Blooming Argos!  :veryangry:

I've just ordered an iPad as a pressie for my wife. Received 2 emails, one confirming the order and next day delivery, the next saying my order had been cancelled. Confused, I rang them. The iPad wasn't in stock in the colour I selected (even though the website said it was available for delivery) so they helpfully cancelled it. Problem is, the refund won't hit my account until the end of the week. So no iPad and no access to the money for a few days. Luckily i could just about afford to go to a competitor and buy one over the counter. Not everyone will be so fortunate.

The chap I spoke to agreed it was a stupid situation and admitted that their ordering system does not talk to their stock system until after the order is placed so this could happen to anyone. And it looks like it's a regular occurence. I will be writing a few letters of complaint.

Watch out you don't get caught out like me.

Yep yep yep.

These jokers did this to us with an oven. I had to talk to their supplier FOR THEM as the Argos system is so dumb it doesn't know what's in the wearhouse.

But they took our money, immediately, knowing we had a MONTH to wait.

Oh, and when the thing did arrive their idiot installation engineer didn't know how to work his big testing box and so informed me that our entire house was backwards wired! Our sparky took 2 minutes to say that was tosh.

To top it off, my normal recourse in this situation is to complain to the appropriate ombudsman. However, in this case Argos are not members so it's entirely usesless.

I avoid them if at all possible now.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: JohnN on December 19, 2017, 08:13:56 PM
I certainly won't be using them again.  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on December 19, 2017, 08:34:58 PM
QuoteProblem is, the refund won't hit my account until the end of the week.
maybe,if your lucky,took  nearly 2 weeks before i saw my refund.If i was cynical id say  there most probably sitting on thousands of pounds of refunds thats earning intrest and/or making there books look good.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on December 19, 2017, 08:45:53 PM
As an aside to the above, I pay my electricity bill by way of regular monthly identical payments. At one point last year, I was over €300 in credit, so I rang the electricity company and asked for a refund of €200. "No problem" I was told, "we will send it when the next bill is processed". I get a bill every two months! So I complained that I had to wait so long for what was my money and, whilst they were earning interest on my money sat in their bank, I was losing interest. The company replied that they do not earn interest on customers money !! Pardon?   ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on December 20, 2017, 04:42:01 PM
Waited in all day Monday for a delivery from FedEx. At 7pm I emailed the supplier to be told that it was delivered at 11:58. Not to this address I replied. The supplier is sending another shipment by their own van on Thursday. Best part was, last night at about 5:30, some guy from FedEx turns up asking for the parcel they are supposed to collect. Fortunately for them, my wife answered the door, otherwise they would have got a flea in their ear. The delivery was a case of wine, so someone will be having a good Christmas drink, fortunately not at my expense.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on December 20, 2017, 06:54:02 PM
Hope the Christmas wine arrives OK, Malc.

Enjoy!  :beers:

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 06, 2018, 04:25:50 PM
 :censored: :veryangry: :censored:

See this is why I can't have nice things.

2 weeks.

Had my car two weeks and some  :censored: has scraped the bumper so badly it's down to the plastic (which is white, so sticks out like a sore thumb on dark blue, thanks Ford).

It was all shiny too  :'(

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 06, 2018, 04:53:51 PM
So sorry to hear that. Did you catch the  :censored: or did they clear off?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 06, 2018, 05:04:30 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on January 06, 2018, 04:53:51 PM
So sorry to hear that. Did you catch the  :censored: or did they clear off?

Was in a car park so no idea who or when  >:(

It's not going to rust and there is no wheel damage, but still. Will end up going to "Dingmaster" or similar and be a few quid down all cos some fool can't park.

Skyline2uk   
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 06, 2018, 05:16:18 PM
and of course everyone asks ...

"What did you hit ?" :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 06, 2018, 06:09:29 PM
Quote from: class37025 on January 06, 2018, 05:16:18 PM
and of course everyone asks ...

"What did you hit ?" :veryangry:

Yeah exactly, Mrs thought I was daft saying that, but it's true!

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on January 06, 2018, 10:49:55 PM
I bought a Dapol Brittania at Warley, was unable to test it there as we had to rush off for the train home and later found that it made all sorts of horrible noises and partially jammed every few seconds. I sent it to DCC Supplies, who checked it, stated it was unrepairable and sent a request to Dapol to replace it on 5th December. Nothing by Christmas and then I was away. Last week, once I was back, I chased it up and DCC Supplies sent a strongish email to Dapol, copying me in. Dapol replied that they would send a new one out after testing it. It arrived yesterday ... and suffers exactly the same problem :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on January 06, 2018, 11:01:50 PM
Shocking. :veryangry: I'm angry for you Steve.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Chatty on January 08, 2018, 05:21:02 AM
Quote from: Bealman on December 18, 2017, 08:01:58 AM
The Aussies got the Ashes back.

Not sure I'm in the right thread here..... I actually go for Australia in sport, even though I'm still a British citizen. Could be something to do with me being here 40+ years and having daughters who are most definitely Aussies.

Just following on my from palm trees!  ;D :beers:

Just don't run for Parliament  :D

Kind regards

Geoff
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on January 08, 2018, 05:26:33 AM
 :laughabovepost: ;D

No chance of that, mate.

Been enough of that in the media!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on January 09, 2018, 10:01:54 AM
Screwfix have dropped all own brand stainless screws below 40mm (pozi head)... >:(

They don't come up when you search for Stainless screws :veryangry:
They don't come up when you search for mm screws, which they've used for years.. :veryangry:

After getting the paper catalogue, you find they do the less than 40mm screws under the brand Easydrive..

They don't come up when you search for Stainless screws :veryangry:
They don't come up when you search for mm screws, which they've used for years.. :veryangry:

But they do come up if you search only in inches!!!!,  :goggleeyes:





Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on January 09, 2018, 11:50:57 AM
Quote from: The Q on January 09, 2018, 10:01:54 AM

But they do come up if you search only in inches!!!!,  :goggleeyes:

Its probably because they are getting ready for when we leave the EU and return to Imperial measure instead of Metric. ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on January 09, 2018, 11:59:44 AM
Quote from: daffy on January 09, 2018, 11:50:57 AM
Its probably because they are getting ready for when we leave the EU and return to Imperial measure instead of Metric. ;)

I knew something was a foot ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 09, 2018, 12:29:55 PM
Honestly

Give them 25.4mm and they take 1.61km....

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: broadsword on January 09, 2018, 12:39:54 PM
I had a look thru the Screwfix catalogue for Jimmy Nail and Usain Bolt, no luck....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on January 09, 2018, 12:48:18 PM
Quote from: daffy on January 09, 2018, 11:50:57 AMwhen we leave the EU and return to Imperial measure instead of Metric.
Stone the crows, what a good* idea I hadnt thought of that.
Shudav been on the side of a bus, they kept that well hidden under a bushel.

* oh hang on though, would that mean I'd have to remember how many lbs there are were in a cwt ? Never was any good at that without the back of my exercise book
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on January 09, 2018, 12:54:42 PM
Quote from: broadsword on January 09, 2018, 12:39:54 PM
I had a look thru the Screwfix catalogue for Jimmy Nail and Usain Bolt, no luck....

Jimmy Nail is in the 'hooks and loops' section, listed under 'y eyes'.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 09, 2018, 01:09:13 PM
Quote from: daffy on January 09, 2018, 12:54:42 PM
Quote from: broadsword on January 09, 2018, 12:39:54 PM
I had a look thru the Screwfix catalogue for Jimmy Nail and Usain Bolt, no luck....

Jimmy Nail is in the 'hooks and loops' section, listed under 'y eyes'.

This is the Angry Thread. Stop making me laugh :telloff: ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 09, 2018, 03:35:09 PM
at least the road signs still say 'miles' ! as do the speed limits !!

often wondered why the euro crowd didn't demand they convert to those other foreign thingies :-:

for me, the sooner we get back to proper measurements, the better,

BUT, and this may be verging on the political,

when you've got a PM who one day is pro Europe, and the next in charge of Brexit, what real hope do we have.

nice to know our politicians actually have scruples, not I did NOT say morals !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on January 09, 2018, 04:07:35 PM
Quoteoften wondered why the euro crowd didn't demand they convert to those other foreign thingies :-:
Theres some weird laws surrounding weights and measures . Beer is still measured  in pints,but  shandy must be  measured in liters.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 09, 2018, 04:09:52 PM
 ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on January 09, 2018, 07:33:02 PM
On this strange topic and living in foreign parts, I noticed that the car I hired in the UK still gives me a reading of how many MPG I was doing when I was trying to exceed the 25 MPH of the other traffic on the M 25. 

Jerry
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on January 09, 2018, 09:22:59 PM
25MPH + on the M25?

Surprised you weren't nicked for speeding, Jerry!

My record on that dreaded highway is 65 miles in 4 hours and that after a 10 hour working day.

Hurrah for early retirement!

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scottmitchell74 on January 09, 2018, 09:25:48 PM
Brand new Class 40 with sound:


Directional light doesn't work!!

(All other lights work, but not the one taillight)

$22.50 to ship back to UK!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 09, 2018, 09:34:02 PM
Oh dear. You're really not having fun with that loco :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scottmitchell74 on January 09, 2018, 10:04:20 PM
 :no:

Yeah. It's my stupid fault. I keep trying to do this British outline thing (I just love how everything looks. I love everything about it) but dealing with companies over-seas is wearing me out.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dr Al on January 09, 2018, 10:22:07 PM
Quote from: scottmitchell74 on January 09, 2018, 09:25:48 PM
Brand new Class 40 with sound:


Directional light doesn't work!!

(All other lights work, but not the one taillight)


I know you've had the body off from other thread  ;)  ;) - check the conductor wiper contacts at that end haven't got bent and aren't making good contact....

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scottmitchell74 on January 09, 2018, 11:15:15 PM
That doesn't seem to be the problem. The lights on the other end work and the contacts all look the same to my naked eye.


Grr!! I hate trying to do things to a brand new item.

Thanks again for your help.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dr Al on January 09, 2018, 11:19:17 PM
The white lights on the other end are a different independent circuit, so not relevant to this problem.

I'd bend all those wipers at the suspect end out a little, and clean their surfaces (and the PCB contact regions) with a fibreglass pencil.

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scottmitchell74 on January 09, 2018, 11:24:38 PM
Hmm...both the white and red lights on one end don't work, and both the white and red lights on the other do.

I'm really unskilled at these things, and I REALLY appreciate your help. Thanks!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dr Al on January 09, 2018, 11:28:36 PM
Sounds like the common return from the two coloured sets of LEDs isn't making contact then - I'm afraid I don't know which wiper that corresponds to, but it's worth giving them a once over.

Beyond that, have a look at the wired connections between the main PCB and the wipers, and check that in removing the body you didn't knock one of them and detach it. If you did you'll need to re-solder it carefully.

Also worth unplugging and replugging the DCC blank in case one of the pins that relates to these lights isn't making good contact or there's a whisp of dirt in there.

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dr Al on January 09, 2018, 11:45:35 PM
Very good shout from Lindi to check too - I'd forgotten that feature!

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scottmitchell74 on January 10, 2018, 12:12:04 AM
Found the switches. Both on on both ends. Switched it off then on, just to see. Nothing. No white or red lights.

I don't have a soldering iron, and the parts are so tiny I wouldn't know what to do anyhow. I'm going to wait to hear from Hatton's tomorrow.

Thanks guys, so much!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scottmitchell74 on January 11, 2018, 12:43:03 PM
Hatton's!!!!


Still being given the run-around by Hatton's.

Also, the Class 40 with Sound is now discontinued? Already? They're saying that if I send it back, I can't get a replacement. The Class 40 with Sound is gone forever.

Wow.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 11, 2018, 01:05:31 PM
Scott - I suggest you contact Farish direct, explain the problem to them and ask what they intend to do for you. To my mind they should fix it for you and pay shipping costs both ways.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scottmitchell74 on January 11, 2018, 01:59:28 PM
Thanks for the suggestions. I did try bending them up. Nothing.

I've finally been able to correspond with someone at Hatton's who have given me a straight answer. Seems I'll be sending it in for a refund, saying goodbye to it forever.

It was on preorder since May! Talk about a let down. (And I know many people waited much longer)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: scottmitchell74 on January 11, 2018, 03:25:48 PM
Lindi - I'll give that a look tomorrow. I'm at work (24 hours) today, and that will be my last-ditch effort to make it work.

Thanks again everyone for the suggestions/support!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 11, 2018, 03:30:27 PM
If you really want that sound fitted class 40 I still reckon you should contact Farish and explain what has occurred (don't tell 'em you've pulled it apart too much). At least they might fix it for you, unlike Hattons.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on January 11, 2018, 05:31:06 PM
BT the money grabbing  parasites,got me bill in today and
" your account  is £16.34 in credit,we need to increase monthly payment  because your using more than before.your new monthly payment will be £49.00  a month"
so hows that work then? my call charges are always around the same amount,my broadband and line rental package hasn't increased in price, time to change phone and broadband providers i thinks.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on January 11, 2018, 05:57:56 PM
Sound pretty usual for utility companies. When they do that to me and i think they're wrong, I just tell them not to increase the DD but leave as it was. Then when the next bill comes in I get a fairer idea of what the true situation is without them taking the money up front, as it were.
Less hassle than switching, unless you can find a better deal elsewhere. But I've yet to find any utility that doesn't hack me off every now and then, no matter how good their reviews.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on January 18, 2018, 05:27:41 PM
Not so much angry but frustrated!

For almost 50 years, my feet have been size 6, and I've never had much trouble, until recently, finding adult shoes to fit.  Mens always started at 6.  However over the last couple of years, I'm finding it increasingly more difficult to find size 6 in mens shoes., unless I want to pay a fortune for them of course.  There are certain well known stores which don't even stock sixes, men's start at 7, kid's finish at 5.  Really starting to hack me off!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on January 18, 2018, 06:13:00 PM
I am also size 6 and throughout my life I have suffered from the same problem as you.

This evening I did manage to buy a nice pair of shoes in the sales but, as you say, they were still expensive.

Dr. Martens are available in size 6.

Best regards,


Joe
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on January 18, 2018, 06:36:45 PM
Have you thought of trying Shoe Zone?  I buy most of my shoes there and, whilst they are not always the best quality, they certainly have some good prices - in size 6! This is just one example -
https://www.shoezone.com/Products/US-Brass-Mens-Black-Smart-Lace-Up-Shoe-53092 (https://www.shoezone.com/Products/US-Brass-Mens-Black-Smart-Lace-Up-Shoe-53092)

They will post orders and if you sign up for their email, you get a fiver  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on January 18, 2018, 07:37:49 PM
You're right about the quality, I bought two different pairs from shoe zone beginning of December and both are now letting in the rain through the sole.  I take the beast in my avatar walking several miles a day rain or shine and I can't seem to find any with the longevity that that  needs.  Looks like I may have to spend a bit more if I can find some.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on January 18, 2018, 07:54:06 PM
I'm afraid you get what you pay for IMHO. Over the years I've tried budget shoe shops and found their shoes last maybe a year or less and are not capable of being repaired.
So now me and misses buy our shoes mostly from Clarks or Hotter. They last for years, have good size selections (including widths) and can often be repaired.
:beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 18, 2018, 08:06:46 PM
Quote from: TrevL on January 18, 2018, 07:37:49 PM
You're right about the quality, I bought two different pairs from shoe zone beginning of December and both are now letting in the rain through the sole.  I take the beast in my avatar walking several miles a day rain or shine and I can't seem to find any with the longevity that that  needs.  Looks like I may have to spend a bit more if I can find some.

not by any chance the 'Earthworks' boots, tend to split across the sole after about 5-6 months.

best boots I've found are Magnum, always used to buy them when I was working, lasted years and years.
you can get then in either normal lace-up high-leg, or normal lace-up ankle styles, and you can also get the high-leg lace-ups with a side zip, saves lacing up each time.

always went to the high-leg myself, preferred to 'blouse' my trouser legs, saved getting mud on them whenit was wet on patrol, and you could get away with it on nights :-)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: David Asquith on January 19, 2018, 10:55:47 AM
I was a big fan of magnums when I was working.  Had them resoled twice.  You can also buy them in full leather or with mesh ventilation.  The high leg ones certainly saved my shins on a few occasions when wandering around in the dark.  Didn't help once whilst assisting transport an old fella who was being sectioned.  He kicked my shins above the boots ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ian Bowden on January 19, 2018, 01:20:43 PM
My cars fan belt has snapped unfortunately it has taken the belt tension pulley with it. I have had to hire a van (cheaper than a car) while I wait for it to be fixed, the price of the van was cheap as the hire company are having a January sale and it is two weeks hire for the price of one. Only problem is the £750 excess on the insurance, I am terrified every time someone walks near it I will lose my money. They used to have a damage waiver charge but have now dropped this.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on January 19, 2018, 01:52:25 PM
Quote from: TrevL on January 18, 2018, 05:27:41 PM
Not so much angry but frustrated!

For almost 50 years, my feet have been size 6, and I've never had much trouble, until recently, finding adult shoes to fit.  Mens always started at 6.  However over the last couple of years, I'm finding it increasingly more difficult to find size 6 in mens shoes., unless I want to pay a fortune for them of course.  There are certain well known stores which don't even stock sixes, men's start at 7, kid's finish at 5.  Really starting to hack me off!

I feel your pain, I live in Japan where my feet are just beyond the upper limit of standard Japanese shoe sizes, but just below the main sizes stocked by the shops which specialize in freaky oversized (for Japan) feet.

Oddly my wife, who is Japanese, is in the same position...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: pesky badger on January 19, 2018, 02:43:34 PM
No problem with shoes for me, but trousers....Try getting a pair of 30" waist 32" leg from the high street!! They all seem to start at 32" waist which is just too big for me.  I Even started to look in the kids section in one shop and their waist sizes were just as large as the adult sizes.  Ended up finding a pair of slim fit but the legs are so narrow I can't get my arms in, let alone thighs.

Oh well, just have to go out in a bin bag  :sorrysign:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on January 19, 2018, 02:50:31 PM
Quote from: pesky badger on January 19, 2018, 02:43:34 PM
No problem with shoes for me, but trousers....Try getting a pair of 30" waist 32" leg from the high street!! They all seem to start at 32" waist which is just too big for me.  I Even started to look in the kids section in one shop and their waist sizes were just as large as the adult sizes.  Ended up finding a pair of slim fit but the legs are so narrow I can't get my arms in, let alone thighs.

Oh well, just have to go out in a bin bag  :sorrysign:

I remember those days... Now I am 38" waist but the legs haven't grown.....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on January 19, 2018, 09:37:23 PM
Quote from: Ian Bowden on January 19, 2018, 01:20:43 PM
My cars fan belt has snapped unfortunately it has taken the belt tension pulley with it. I have had to hire a van (cheaper than a car) while I wait for it to be fixed, the price of the van was cheap as the hire company are having a January sale and it is two weeks hire for the price of one. Only problem is the £750 excess on the insurance, I am terrified every time someone walks near it I will lose my money. They used to have a damage waiver charge but have now dropped this.

I've never used one, but I have read about companies that provide insurance to cover such excesses on hire cars - even where hire companies do have their own option for this, these providers are supposed to be far cheaper.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on January 20, 2018, 08:45:37 AM
Quote from: stevewalker on January 19, 2018, 09:37:23 PM
Quote from: Ian Bowden on January 19, 2018, 01:20:43 PM
My cars fan belt has snapped unfortunately it has taken the belt tension pulley with it. I have had to hire a van (cheaper than a car) while I wait for it to be fixed, the price of the van was cheap as the hire company are having a January sale and it is two weeks hire for the price of one. Only problem is the £750 excess on the insurance, I am terrified every time someone walks near it I will lose my money. They used to have a damage waiver charge but have now dropped this.

I've never used one, but I have read about companies that provide insurance to cover such excesses on hire cars - even where hire companies do have their own option for this, these providers are supposed to be far cheaper.
I do use an annual "insurance for car hire" and they do pay out as well, however don't know if would cover vans though.

Jerry
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on February 01, 2018, 01:25:34 PM
Quote from: stevewalker on January 06, 2018, 10:49:55 PM
I bought a Dapol Brittania at Warley, was unable to test it there as we had to rush off for the train home and later found that it made all sorts of horrible noises and partially jammed every few seconds. I sent it to DCC Supplies, who checked it, stated it was unrepairable and sent a request to Dapol to replace it on 5th December. Nothing by Christmas and then I was away. Last week, once I was back, I chased it up and DCC Supplies sent a strongish email to Dapol, copying me in. Dapol replied that they would send a new one out after testing it. It arrived yesterday ... and suffers exactly the same problem :veryangry:

And now the follow-up.

Having returned the second Britannia, I phoned Dapol last week, having heard nothing at all. Today a replacement arrived  :claphappy:

I opened it up and found that they'd sent an A4 Seagull  :censored:

I now have to return that one, then they'll send me a replacement - what are the chances that they'll send the right one, send it quickly and that it'll actually work?  :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 01, 2018, 01:33:48 PM
Quote from: stevewalker on February 01, 2018, 01:25:34 PM
what are the chances that they'll send the right one, send it quickly and that it'll actually work?  :uneasy:

I assume that's a rhetorical question and that you don't really want an answer (well, not one one you want to hear anyway) ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: JonHarbour on February 06, 2018, 04:08:34 PM
How Long Does it Take to do a  :censored: Post-Mortem?

My mother unfortunately passed away on either January 26th or January 27th - not sure which. It is now February 6th and STILL NO  :censored: POST-MORTEM DONE  :censored:  :veryangry:

That means no death certificate, which means none of the formalities associated with the passing of a loved one can progress. We have the funeral booked for February 20th but we are beginning to doubt whether it can take place or not. Both my brother and I have flown in from overseas (him from Colombia and me from Australia) and this eternal 'holding pattern' we are stuck in is really giving us both the  :poop: massively. It's so undignified for my poor old Mum. Rant over. Apologies.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: red_death on February 06, 2018, 04:38:10 PM
Hi Jon

Commiserations on your loss.  My Dad died unexpectedly a couple of years back and it seemed a bit chaotic / unclear at times as to what was necessary.  We were told originally that a PM was necessary, then it turned out it wasn't.  Still not really sure why the change of mind.

Chase the Coroner's office, as they should confirm that a post mortem is necessary or not and let you know the timeframe (IIRC normally 5-7 working days though I suspect it will depend on the hospital and how busy they are).

Good luck, Mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on February 06, 2018, 06:14:03 PM
My condolences Jon, Have lost my own Mum on 30th January, I know what it is like. We were fortunate in that a PM was deemed not necessary, (the death certificate actually used the words "old age", along with a couple of other things), but the funeral is not until 14th February. If we had used Mum's first choice, it would have been at least a week later! I can't understand why it takes so long, here in Ireland, it is considered delayed if it takes 5 days to bury a loved one.  As many of you told me last week, "remember the good times".
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on February 06, 2018, 07:05:34 PM
So sorry to read of your loss Jon. I hope the bureaucratic logjam clears. My thoughts are with you.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on February 06, 2018, 11:28:33 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on February 06, 2018, 06:14:03 PM
My condolences Jon, Have lost my own Mum on 30th January, I know what it is like. We were fortunate in that a PM was deemed not necessary, (the death certificate actually used the words "old age", along with a couple of other things), but the funeral is not until 14th February. If we had used Mum's first choice, it would have been at least a week later! I can't understand why it takes so long, here in Ireland, it is considered delayed if it takes 5 days to bury a loved one.  As many of you told me last week, "remember the good times".

Don't mention funerals in Ireland :( Our worst was one of my wife's uncles dying on Thursday afternoon, us not finding out 'til we came home from work at 17:30 on Friday evening  (a couple of hours before the Removal) and the funeral being at 11:00 on Saturday morning! By the time we'd organised for our children to go round to my parents, we were too late for a flight that night and the first flight of the morning was too late for us to pick up a hire car and get across to Sligo in time. We ended up dropping the kids at my parents, driving to Holyhead, crossing to Dublin and driving to Sligo (via a florist) and arriving with 15 minutes to spare. After the funeral we went to the meal, stayed just over an hour, then drove to Belfast, crossed to Stranraer and drove back to Manchester. Absolutely exhausting!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 06, 2018, 11:58:59 PM
At least you made it, though.  :thumbsup:

When I flew to the UK to sort out things after the sudden death of my parents in 1990, my UK passport had expired. I obtained emergency travel documents from the British Consulate here in Australia, which were promptly taken off me when I arrived at Heathrow.

I got to the funeral, but was effectively stranded, with a wife, kids and a job back in Australia!  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: JonHarbour on February 07, 2018, 05:42:08 PM
Well, I have my answer to the question about the post-mortem. It was done yesterday, but the results are inconclusive. That means an interim death certificate can be issued, which should be sufficient for me to take my Mum's ashes back with me. We can't formally register the death though. We'll get there eventually. It is moving at the speed of a glacier though...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 07, 2018, 09:10:43 PM
Oh, that's what is holding things up. Good luck!

To be perfectly honest, I don't know where my mother's ashes are. My father's are at a crematorium near Sunderland. I'd like to think that's where hers are, too.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: JonHarbour on February 07, 2018, 10:06:22 PM
My Mum had a very specific request. My father's ashes are located at the Memorial Park very close to where I currently live - at the time my wife and I bought our house, we did not realise that was where he was - I was only 9 years old when he died and it was only after we bought the place I found out. Mum has asked to be reunited with him, which is a lovely and very comforting thought. Bit of a hike for my sister (UK) and my brother (Colombia) to pay a visit though....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on February 27, 2018, 11:31:00 PM
As you will know if you've read my previous posts, I bought a Dapol Britannia (Apollo) at Warley, in November. It turned out to be faulty and was sent to DCC supplies, who deemed it unrepairable and emailed Dapol to replace it.

It took until January for Dapol to send a replacement - and only after DCC supplies chased them on my behalf.

The (supposedly tested) replacement proved to have exactly the same problem and was returned directly to Dapol.

Again, no replacement was forthcoming until I called them. The  replacement proved to be ... an A4 (Seagull) !!!

Another return to Dapol.

Nothing happened again, until I called to prompt them.

Last week a replacement arrived. Amazing - it was the right one and ran fairly well ... for a short time.

I found that it kept derailing on left-hand curves ... it turned out that the trailing pony truck was catching on one of the posts for the loco to tender connections. Pressing this down and across a little solved this problem - although I wouldn't want to run it on less than my minimum 12" curves.

Having ascertained that it then ran okay, I added some coaches. It promptly ran for 10 seconds and then the drive connector on the motor shaft began to spin freely and all drive was lost - even light engine.

Okay, I can fix this with a drop of Loctite, but with this experience (and the "pre-owned" 9F that struggles to pull a train half the length that my Graham-Farish 4F purrs along with), I am pretty sure that I will not be chancing a Dapol loco again!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on March 01, 2018, 10:35:04 AM
I received an email from my electricity supplier today.

I thought you might be interested in my reply.

QuoteDear EON

I have determined that the acronym EON must stand for "Endless Onerous Notifications" as, once again (I've lost count) you send me an email about wanting me to change to a smart meter.

Emails, phone calls, even a personal visit from one of your staff - I've had them all!

To each, including a phone call just about two weeks ago from a nice young lady - I have said that I DONT WANT A SMART METER!

Each have replied with an apology and a promise that they will update the system to ensure I'm not bothered again.

Each has, therefore, either failed in their duty to do such an update; lied to me; or your system sucks!

PLEASE NOTE: I DO NOT WANT A SMART METER FITTED.

END OF.

Kind regards

Grrrrrrrrrrr!!!! :veryangry:  :veryangry:

As you may know, there is no legal requirement for me to have a Smart Meter fitted, despite the wording of emails from EON that states "Don't forget, your electricity meter needs to be upgraded to our self-reading smart meter."
Their is no necessity to have one fitted. I note that they have toned down the emails of late - earlier ones were almost threatening, in the manner say, of a final demand notice.

So, if you don't want one fitted and are similarly being plagued by your supplier, please feel free to use my reply to EON as a Pro-Forma.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on March 01, 2018, 10:49:52 AM
So are we correct in thinking you don't want a smart meter then daffy? ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on March 01, 2018, 10:56:53 AM
 :hmmm:


..... er.........


  :-\



:no:

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Yet_Another on March 01, 2018, 12:09:48 PM
Scottish Power employ similar tactics. I just ignore them.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 01, 2018, 12:24:15 PM
Scottish Power phoned me to ask if I would like a smart meter. I declined and they asked me why. I told them that the design of the meters differed between companies and weren't compatible with each other. I didn't want to be tied to one supplier if they decide to increase their prices. She said that was fine and i've Not heard from them since.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on March 01, 2018, 12:50:53 PM
my reply to eon was it won't work there is no Mobile phone signal here..
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on March 01, 2018, 01:07:39 PM
Quote from: daffy on March 01, 2018, 10:35:04 AM
...

So, if you don't want one fitted and are similarly being plagued by your supplier, please feel free to use my reply to EON as a Pro-Forma.

Better still, send them a letter, signed for, stating that you give them 1 month to amend their data and ensure that they stop contacting you about smart meters and that after that period, you will be billing them £50 for dealing with each such contact that they make and £50 for each letter that you have to send them to tell them to stop. If they carry on, take them to the small claims court!

This technique has been used by people in the past to deal with unwanted contact and has won them hundreds of pounds - ending up with the contact stopping suddenly as well!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 01, 2018, 01:37:42 PM
My Mum (in her eighties) is being pestered by her power company to have smart meters on the basis she can then regulate her power usage. Yeah right. It's minus 6 degrees outside and I'm using too much gas for my boiler so I'll turn the heating down. The power she uses is what she needs to be comfortable - no more, no less. I've just told her to ignore them and let me know if she hears anything more.
Then someone will get a high powered flea in their lughole >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on March 01, 2018, 01:54:57 PM
I ignore most of the emails, but phone calls and knocks on the door at inopportune times are a pain in the proverbial.

I conservatively estimate that the various contacts have exceeded 20 since I signed up with them just under a year ago, and like others it's the lack of compatibility between suppliers, but mostly the appalling signal we get here (neighbours have had them fitted only for them to be turned off into 'dumb' mode for that very reason) that lead me to deny their request to fit one.

I'm on a favourable fixed contract (with no exit penalties) at the moment and happy with the price, but will switch whenever I feel it is the right time.

As for sending a penalty letter, thanks for the idea Steve, I'll reserve that for the next time they send a smart meter email or whatever - which will probably be in about two weeks time. :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on March 01, 2018, 01:59:07 PM
Not heard from Scottish Power but if they do ask, I shall ask them does their smart meter work with semaphore flags or can I have an Aldis Lamp version.

Mobile signal around here is alternate Tuesdays but they don't tell you which!

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on March 16, 2018, 10:02:27 AM
Ohhh yes, the so called smart meters.

Mrs Skyline hates those adverts, suggesting they make it seem as if "gas and electricity go bonkers when you are out of the house".

I have flatly ignored the letter from my provider (before Christmas, not heard again). I don't want one, as with others I don't want one that ties my to a single supplier (or at least makes it harder to switch).

If anybody is approached, the question to ask is:

"Is the device you propose to fit to my property of the SMETS2 standard?"
"Seeing as I have no interest at all in the earlier SMETS1 standard which ties me to a single provider, I would only entertain a SMETS2 standard smart meter"

Seeing as:

A) The national rollout of SMETS2 has been continuously delayed.
B) Providers are likely to have piles of the old standard in their warehouses.
C) They won't tell you if you don't ask

They are likely to fit SMETS1 as standard.

Of course, as correctly said above, you are under NO obligation to have a smart meter at all. So by all means give them a straight "No".

Anyway:

Who remembers this previous Skyline rant on this thread back in July?

QuoteI am sooooo  :censored: with myself

I was sat happily putting the etched name plates onto my Class 60 "Swindon Dalesman".

All going fine until I got to put the last plate on and it, plus the fret, are nowhere to be seen.

Turned the room upside down looking for it. No luck.

All the advice about storing small parts etc and I just loose it.  :veryangry:

Does anybody have a spare they could part with?

Skyline2uk

Well, this evening I ventured into the man cave to remove a stray cable from outside the window (slightly dodgy roofers who have just left, that's ANOTHER rant for here  :veryangry:) and I just so happened to look down and saw this in my window frame:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/1081-150318192249.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=62958)

Yep, the missing Swindon Dalesman etch.

I will never know how that ended up there.

Anybody need a single name-plate?!

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tgv_obsessed on March 17, 2018, 05:32:25 PM
Twice a week, I go to the supermarket. I can choose on my drive home between Waitrose, Sainsburys and Tesco. All have good potential to induce plenty of anger, bitterness and resentment, against both the stores themselves and my fellow man.

This week it was Sainsbury's turn and the culprit my fellow man. Well two of our fine species, a man and a woman. One clueless, the other wearing ear-sodding-phones. I shall elaborate.

Trolley checkout procedure and etiquette. The person in front finishes loading the conveyor, and then either you or they plop the plastic toblerone down so that you may start loading your own groceries. To facilitate this, once the person in front has emptied their trolley, they put it in front of them so they stand adjacent to said toblerone. You now have all the space to start loading.

On Tuesday, the fellow in front, having emptied his trolley kept it behind him. Standing next to his toblerone, it meant that I couldn't start loading until he was almost checking out himself. To compound matters, he kept payingside of his trolley all the way through checkout and then dragged the thing out full of bags. I hadn't even half finished emptying by the time it was my turn at the front. The queue behind me were silently muttering their hate - I know I would be! I had to foolishly keep loading the conveyor as my groceries were piling up on the other side of the casheer.

A one off, I thought to myself as I tried to simmer down, but alas no.

Yesterday the same sodding thing happened! This time a young woman listening to music, oblivious to her surroundings, repeated the crime, and once again I couldn't bag my groceries in a timely manner. Daggers of unpleasantness from the irate queuers behind me! This had never happened to me before this week. Never. Its such an unnatural thing to do- in the supermarket queue standing front to back with the person in front when you could have a trolley of space to not have to smell their armpits or whatever. Everyone, EVERYONE else in all the other queues were doing it the correct way- leading by example. Example that was not heeded!

Reading through this, it seems that I am being unreasonable, but the incidents did make me furious, especially the second, it was sickening! Maybe I have a personality dissorder.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 17, 2018, 05:49:07 PM
I must admit I'd get pretty het up myself in a similar situation. Luckily it has not happened to me yet, although I have lost count of the occasions when, having paid for their shopping, some folks stop at the exit to the checkout and have a chat with a friend. Usually a loud "Excellent place to stop!" does the trick.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on March 17, 2018, 06:46:24 PM
Fellow man is a contrary beast indeed. Sympathies to you tgv, though I find in similar situations, where dear fellow-not-well-met seems to have no regard for standard check-out etiquette, I simply let forth a polite 'Excuse me .....' followed by an equally polite request for them to shift their proverbial a little.

As for checkout staff who start their beeping barcode activity before I am in place, counter end, trolley and bags at the ready, I am a model of politeness as I ask them to wait until I've unloaded onto the conveyor. And if they then start the beeping process at frenetic speed, my bag packing activity slows to a crawl and I ask them, politely to slow down.

But I do feel the greatest sympathy for the check-out staff who have to put up with those who fail to acknowledge their existence and spend the check-out time either on the phone, listening to music or whatever from their phone/iPod or what you will, or have exclusive conversations with their friend.

And as for auto checkouts - give me a real person very time.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tgv_obsessed on March 17, 2018, 07:15:07 PM
I too am polite to the check out staff, of course because it is right and proper, but also- to slow the buggers down!

I always try to give them some chit chat when i am getting my bags ready, so they don't start bleeping the things through until I'm good and ready for the stuff. If you say " how are you? " they daren't risk being rude and not answering- you might be the mystery shopper.

It is a bit trickier once they are in their stride and have the steady rythm of a ping pong player passing the things through the evil scanner, but I have a few tactics. If the car park is a "validate your ticket at the cashere" sort, then I suddnely stop them and produce that ticket halfway through, it slows them a little. Asking for only one bag at the beginning and then having to get more during the shopping, that slows them a great deal- even if they cunningly put bags out, I'll still force them to answer the question- can I have another bag? even better- they reply only one? yes thank you- even though there are 4 bagfuls on the conveyor.

If they persist, then I too grind to a halt with my packing. To ram the point home, there was one particular chashere recently- he had a moustache and beady eyes, he really sent my groceries through quickly- he told me the ammount, but before paying him i insisted on emptying 2 bags and repacking them. Which I did- like a toddler putting the right shaped blocks through the right shaped holes.

My partner doesn't like going to the supermarket with me. She says I cause trouble and am an embarassment. I hope so!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Mito on March 17, 2018, 08:59:52 PM
It doesn't matter to me how fast the purchases are pushed through, I continue at my own speed. I know the majority of cashiers and always have a chat as do the majority of Spanish. Living in Spain for 30 years I think I'm more Spanish than British. Having said that what annoys me is the person behind pushing a trolley into my back. Usually they get the trolley pushed back at them. Unfortunately the culprits are British or Germans who show a complete lack of regard for others.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tgv_obsessed on March 17, 2018, 09:29:37 PM
Quote from: Lindi on March 17, 2018, 09:09:35 PM
Quote from: tgv_obsessed on March 17, 2018, 07:15:07 PM
but before paying him i insisted on emptying 2 bags and repacking them. Which I did- like a toddler putting the right shaped blocks through the right shaped holes.

Just think how angry you would be if the person of front of you started emptying there bags and repacking them instead of paying.

I'd be absolutely furious!!! But I would be furious even if they didn't do that- I'm in the queue in the supermarket!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jimbo on March 17, 2018, 09:31:57 PM
When they ask if I want cashback I say yes, all of it please!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 17, 2018, 09:32:52 PM
Quote from: Lindi on March 17, 2018, 09:09:35 PM
Quote from: tgv_obsessed on March 17, 2018, 07:15:07 PM
but before paying him i insisted on emptying 2 bags and repacking them. Which I did- like a toddler putting the right shaped blocks through the right shaped holes.

Just think how angry you would be if the person of front of you started emptying there bags and repacking them instead of paying.

If the cashier insists on whizzing my shopping through the till so I can't keep up, when they tell me how much I owe, I just smile and say "You've done your bit and now you can wait until I've done mine"

Quote from: Jimbo on March 17, 2018, 09:31:57 PM
When they ask if I want cashback I say yes, all of it please!

:laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on March 17, 2018, 10:03:54 PM
Some folks in Supermarket queues are like the driver in the car behind you who is trying to get into your boot! Impatience is rife and common civility and consideration for others seems to be something many have consigned to the scrap heap of their lives.

Such folks make me angry, but, to be honest, far more than that, they make me sad.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: BoxTunnel on March 18, 2018, 12:43:00 AM
Quote from: daffy on March 17, 2018, 10:03:54 PM
Some folks in Supermarket queues are like the driver in the car behind you who is trying to get into your boot! Impatience is rife and common civility and consideration for others seems to be something many have consigned to the scrap heap of their lives.

Such folks make me angry, but, to be honest, far more than that, they make me sad.

I just keep slowing down until they overtake and I can keep on driving at safe speed.  Anything for an easy and safe life.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on March 18, 2018, 07:15:05 AM
I'm now at the stage where I genuinely am an old git and I have two supermarket speeds; dead slow and stop. Not that I deliberately get in anyone's way though.

Some supermarkets have very small areas for the stuff that's been scanned (you know who you are!) and so if that gets piled up the checker-outer has to stop and wait for me. 

On the road and if I can, I will usually let the speeders go by. Out here in the sticks you can get stuck behind a tractor. Weird thing is that Ms/Mr Speeder has the idea that driving 2 foot from the person in front will make the tractor either disappear or speed up.

Funny old world!

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jimbo on March 18, 2018, 08:10:56 AM
I agree! Some people are in a real hurry to get nowhere!......"I must get in front!!" "I have to be in front!!" "I'm allergic to sitting behind someone!" "I've no control over my vehicle! It always wants to go faster!!"  Ha! Ha! It's sad really.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 18, 2018, 10:03:02 AM
I can't always agree with the driving comments above as, here in Leyland, we have too many (shall I call them generously) 'careful' drivers who do 20mph in a 40mph zone regardless of what is around them. This prompts other 'less careful' drivers to take risks in trying to get round them.
I believe there are parts of Portugal where it is against the law to drive at less than the posted speed limit. I wonder if that would work in Blighty. :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on March 18, 2018, 10:39:38 AM
I hate dawdlers too, Mick!

When I say 'Ms/Mr Speedy' I'm talking about folk that tailgate for no reason and/or consider 40+ in a 30 area is OK.

My other half got nicked for inadvertently doing 35 through a local village recently and we now have licensed/trained volunteer speed camera operators all over the place.

I don't hang about when I can and safe to do so. but here we have cyclists, lycrists ( :censored:), horses and group walkers so down the lanes 45 ish is usually safe but you shouldn't do the max allowed 60.

Dave G

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 18, 2018, 10:42:57 AM
On the main drag from my place to Sydney, it's 110 Km/hr. I set cruise control to 110, but have people fanging past me at speeds that must be at least 180.  :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: javlinfaw7 on March 18, 2018, 10:47:25 AM
There are some places that  it is illeagle to drive too slow in the UK
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/1970-180318104546.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=63095)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: exmouthcraig on March 18, 2018, 10:53:01 AM
I'm lucky in that most of my fields are accessible from our own internal road network but I do have to use the main roads at times.

I am an educated driver and our roads we use are 50mph, I have no chance of hitting anymore then 70% of that speed, even half with a trailer BUT I am aware of vehicles behind me and know where I can and can't let them pass me and I ALWAYS acknowledge any driver that has had to wait or shuffle about to let me pass.

We cycle a hell of a lot round and about. Always on the road network and we cruise about 18 - 22mph on them but again I always acknowledge any driver that has had to wait to get past us.

We also own horses and do ride on the road network, the missus does 4 or 5 times a week and again wait where it's convenient and safe to do so ALWAYS acknowledging the drivers as they pass.

We all have things to do and places to get to and I don't like holding anyone up as much as I don't want to be held up but if I can be bothered to acknowledge that I have held you up is it really that hard to do the same to me???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 18, 2018, 11:21:19 AM
Obviously I don't advocate ignoring all the conditions around a driver but I'm talking fairly urban motoring here so yes, the odd tractor, some lycrists (love it, Dave!) but even on clear roads we still get dawdlers when the biggest danger is some prat on a mobile phone walking into the road without looking.
It's the old story of 'they've never been in an accident but have caused several' ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on March 18, 2018, 01:46:07 PM
Where we used to live in Sevenoaks, there's a really narrow bit of the High Street where the pavement goes down to pretty much single file.

On a Saturday we would drive at a crawl through that bit to make sure we didn't deliver a wing mirror clout to any 'Lemmings' that teetered off the path. Mums with huge shopping bags or double width buggies were major hazards!

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 18, 2018, 02:01:23 PM
I was always taught to 'progress' when I did my RAF driving courses .....

if the limit is 40, and the road and traffic conditions allow it, then why are you doing 25 ?

similarly, if the road and traffic conditions do not, then why are you still doing the max permitted speed ?

there are far too many of the 'I've passed my test' drivers around, and far too few 'trained' drivers.

I was lucky, I've had RAF  driving courses, HGV3 and HGV1, and a civilian PSV all classes.

it amazes me, not the number of accidents that I do see, but the number that I don't.

some idiots just seem to tear up their L plates, and forget everything the have been 'taught'.

too many people seem to be taught not to drive, but to pass the test.

sorry,
rant over

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on March 18, 2018, 02:18:36 PM
Many years ago the City Council decided to post a 20 mph limit for streets in Oxford. But the Police say the signage is wrong and so refuse to enforce the 20 limit, instead enforcing a 30 limit. The result is that tourists drive at 21 and locals (on the rare occasions that traffic isn't jammed) drive at 35. :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on March 18, 2018, 08:08:48 PM
I was taught to drive when I was in the Police and have been on the advanced drivers course - I can not explain how much 'fun' (!) it is, driving at 70/80mph in an unmarked car, (no lights or sirens), whilst giving a running commentary, explaining what you can see front and rear and explaining what you are doing and why you are doing it. Here in Ireland, if not driving on a newish road, the limit is generally 80kph, (50mph), and on some of the roads, it is impossible to do anywhere near that speed, but it is surprising, when it is possible, how many drivers are going at 40kph. When I get somebody behind who is obviously in a hurry, not casting aspersions here, but it is usually a young male driver, I just let them pass when safe and think, "Go on, be a statistic". Probably a large percentage of fatal accidents in Ireland involve a single vehicle.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 19, 2018, 12:52:49 PM
Many years ago I was driving a land rover towing a trailer. I was in a queue going up a hill on a long straight road. I noticed in my wing mirror a car shooting up the outside of the queue. Several large lorries from a nearby quarry started coming down the hill towards us. The lad in the car thought there was a gap behind me and went for it, only to be disappointed. Fortunately for him, there was a disused petrol station on the offside and he managed to skid to a halt on the empty forecourt in a cloud of dust and gravel (and probably embarrassment)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on March 19, 2018, 08:47:53 PM
As I was working last night, I did not get up until about 2.30pm. I had my 'breakfast' then switched on my phone to find there was a text from my bank asking me to ring them asap. I duly did so and was asked about some transactions that had gone through a couple of hours earlier.  ???  "Not me" says I, "I was in bed". It turned out that at least 4 transactions, totalling just over €600 had been done online.  :goggleeyes:. That is bad enough although the lady I spoke to did say the money would be refunded - after I return the necessary paperwork to them, which they will put in the post tomorrow, (it is a Public Holiday here today - think of the extra pay David  :)). Before I can return the paperwork, I have to fill it in then go to the local Gardai, (Police), a round trip of 40 miles, so they can do what they have to do. In the meantime, my Debit Card has been cancelled and I was going to use that card for Ally Pally next Sunday! So I now have to transfer money to another account, so I can use that instead.  :veryangry: It is amazing how these frauds can take place - the card was in a RFID sleeve in my wallet in the bedroom. The laptop, which does not have my card details on it, was switched off, in its bag, in the car parked outside the house, (and Louisa was at home). Some very clever, dishonest, people about. I have to commend the bank though for picking up on the fraud so quickly.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 19, 2018, 10:55:18 PM
Long before contactless cards were invented, I got a call from my credit card provider. A lady asked me if I had bought 4 car tyres in Wolverhampton about 15 minutes previously. I told her I was in Feltham and no, I hadn't bought anything. Apparently someone had used a fake card at a garage and it had my number on it. They posted me a new card. All I can assume is that someone had access to one of my petrol receipts from a garage as it was all I used that card for.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on March 20, 2018, 06:39:55 AM
I've had one of my cards 'cloned' twice. The last time was for well over £1000 of stuff in three transactions in Portugal, where I've never been. Happily, unlike dannyboy's experience, I only had to wait a few days for a new card as the whole matter was resolved by my card company over the phone the same day they notified me of the problem. But it was worrisome all the same and made me even more fastidious than I already am at guarding my details.

Hope your new card arrives soon and that you enjoy the Ally Pally trip on Sunday. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 20, 2018, 06:51:19 AM
Extremely scary stuff. I had my credit card hacked once, but luckily the provider fixed it.

It's extremely stressful, and I sympathise.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on March 20, 2018, 08:59:23 AM
Thats bad news Dannyboy these scum are getting very clever now thats why we dont have a credit card .I do hope you get it sorted in time for your trip to Ally Pally see you there .
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: port perran on March 20, 2018, 09:11:10 AM
Had a text and call from my bank on Wednesday.
Of course, I thought it was a scam but it was real for real.
Had Ibought  something in John Lewis and PC World earlier today.
No.....luckily the bank had stopped the payments. Apparently it was a suspect IP address that alerted them.
So....no money taken but card stopped and reissued .
New card came on Saturday / no harm done other than a bit of inconvenience but beware.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on March 20, 2018, 09:19:09 AM
'Tis a pity these scammers can't have their accounts hacked and have them emptied, see how they like it!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on March 20, 2018, 11:21:14 AM
I've twice had my credit card hacked on both occasions I found out when I tried to use the card and it had been stopped. On contacting the bank, they had noticed very odd activity and stopped it.
I did find out that on one of the occasions the card had been diverted to a Cafe in Leightonstone.

This is why I almost never use my bank account card for purchases, only a credit card, which doesn't have a high limit.


As for vehicles weaving in and out of traffic, one I came across, was a motorcyclist weaving in and out to find a low level trailer in the gap , the results were not nice.

Much less nice, the other happend not far from the MRC on the main road, two mortorcyclists were weaving in and out in opposite directions at very high speed. (60mph straight road) They met in the middle, they had to use heat seeking guns to find the pieces in the ditches alongside the road. I'm very glad I didn't come across that one.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 28, 2018, 10:53:10 AM
I guess it's the same all over the UK but here, in Leyland, the potholes are getting to be shockingly dangerous. The local council sent a diver in to investigate this one.............

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/264-280318104807-63477643.jpeg)

but the second time they tried it the diver never surfaced again and no one knows why..........

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/264-280318104806-634652080.jpeg)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: austinbob on March 28, 2018, 11:00:46 AM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Yet_Another on March 28, 2018, 03:33:54 PM
A couple of weeks ago, I drove into a pothole on the M6, in the Cheshire roadworks, on a dark Sunday evening. Turns out, it snapped the front nearside spring, and it's going to cost me several hundred pounds to get it fixed.

This is one of the sections of the motorway network that they continue to spend years and years and hundreds of millions to turn into so-called 'smart' motorway.

Poppycock. They spend years not maintaining the actual running lanes properly, causing untold damage to vehicles like mine, for very limited benefit that is likely to be obsolete within years.

I experience a massive delay on a 'smart' motorway not very long ago, because it couldn't even manage planned maintenance. Expensive rubbish waste of resource.  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on March 28, 2018, 03:40:52 PM
Get photographs and a statement from your repairer and submit a complaint and request compensation.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 28, 2018, 03:45:12 PM
I saw on the national news a couple of weeks ago a biker had hit a deep pothole, come off his bike and broken his leg. He successfully did his council for £18000 but I'd suggest (a) this didn't cover the cost of repairs to his bike and loss of earnings and (b) it might not have cost that much to repair the pothole anyway :hmmm:
The only benefit to holes in the road is that, in Leyland, you are rarely tailgated as everyone wants to see what comes into view hole wise. It's stupid not to.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Yet_Another on March 28, 2018, 03:49:53 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on March 28, 2018, 03:40:52 PM
Get photographs and a statement from your repairer and submit a complaint and request compensation.
Not practical on an unidentifiable dark section of narrow-lanes motorway, and no way of proving that was the cause. Like the biker, there needs to be a clear link between the pothole and the damage. Just saying 'your pothole damaged my car' doesn't really cut the mustard.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on March 28, 2018, 03:54:42 PM
I would certainly take photo's of the damage and speak to you repairer. It will cost nowt to put in a claim.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on March 28, 2018, 03:56:49 PM
And whilst your weaving around the pot holes the cop car behind you  decides your driving erratically and pulls you over.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 28, 2018, 03:59:46 PM
And, being perfectly sober, I'd just tell 'em I'm a decoy :) :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 28, 2018, 05:20:18 PM
Quote from: themadhippy on March 28, 2018, 03:56:49 PM
And whilst your weaving around the pot holes the cop car behind you  decides your driving erratically and pulls you over.

no danger of that here,

you never see a cop, let alone a cop car.

all the sirens around here seem to be ambulances, probably heading to pick up yet another biker who has hit a pothole !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: silly moo on March 30, 2018, 03:23:11 PM
I'm fed up with myself  :-[ We are moving house after 18 years and I can't believe how much stuff I've accumulated. The railway room is worst of all, I seem to have had more cardboard and paper than trains! I know a bit of hoarding in our hobby is useful but I went a bit overboard. I'll try and reform but I'll probably be back to my bad habits once we settle down in our new home.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on March 30, 2018, 03:55:31 PM
Hope the move goes well, Veronica.

Know what you mean about hoarding 'really useful' bits and pieces. It does seem such a waste to throw away all those handy bits of card and plastic packaging.

Dave G

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on March 30, 2018, 04:10:18 PM
@silly moo (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=279)

I'll  "second that. You can never have too many bits.

Mrs "H" suggested that I move.. but only the railway from one room to another. The new Railway room is full and the old Railway room still contains boxes of "useful items".   :D :D

Good luck with the move.

Jerry
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on April 02, 2018, 08:22:23 AM
No hot water and a houseful of guests for the Bank Hols!

We're in the sticks so it's electricity only for that service. Oil boiler runs heating only -we inherited it that way.

Solar system bit that does the hot water has failed after just 18 months and there's no physical bypass to get the immersion running.

Solar installers proved to be incompetent re documentation and it took a year to sort out correct Generation values, etc. Dreading going back to them with a fault.   :doh:

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on April 02, 2018, 08:56:19 AM
Quote from: daveg on April 02, 2018, 08:22:23 AM
No hot water and a houseful of guests for the Bank Hols!

We're in the sticks so it's electricity only for that service. Oil boiler runs heating only -we inherited it that way.

Solar system bit that does the hot water has failed after just 18 months and there's no physical bypass to get the immersion running.

Solar installers proved to be incompetent re documentation and it took a year to sort out correct Generation values, etc. Dreading going back to them with a fault.   :doh:

Dave G
My SPV panels have got an inch of snow on them this morning :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on April 02, 2018, 09:02:56 AM
Quote from: daveg on April 02, 2018, 08:22:23 AM
No hot water and a houseful of guests for the Bank Hols!

We're in the sticks so it's electricity only for that service. Oil boiler runs heating only -we inherited it that way.

Solar system bit that does the hot water has failed after just 18 months and there's no physical bypass to get the immersion running.

Solar installers proved to be incompetent re documentation and it took a year to sort out correct Generation values, etc. Dreading going back to them with a fault.   :doh:

Dave G

You have my sympathies.

I appreciate your confidence in them maybe low, but surely it's not too difficult to bypass so you can use the immersion? If not them, could another sparky do it?

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on April 02, 2018, 09:06:30 AM
Quote from: silly moo on March 30, 2018, 03:23:11 PM
I'm fed up with myself  :-[ We are moving house after 18 years and I can't believe how much stuff I've accumulated. The railway room is worst of all, I seem to have had more cardboard and paper than trains! I know a bit of hoarding in our hobby is useful but I went a bit overboard. I'll try and reform but I'll probably be back to my bad habits once we settle down in our new home.

I know what it's like!

Good luck - bite the bullet and clean it all out. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on April 02, 2018, 02:17:06 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on April 02, 2018, 09:02:56 AM

You have my sympathies.

I appreciate your confidence in them maybe low, but surely it's not too difficult to bypass so you can use the immersion? If not them, could another sparky do it?

Skyline2uk

Thanks.

The suggested bypass had been thought about but we'd have to break the seal to the box and that may make things awkward re warranty (18 months in of 24). On top of that, neither of us are 'qualified' and although probably an easy thing, we won't do that.

We have reported the fault and will expect a prompt response or otherwise we will get our local sparks to make the change.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on April 02, 2018, 05:11:07 PM
Just the two of use and the dog who is keeping my feet warm at the moment.
We have no hot water or central heating, Friday I thought this is chilly, checked the thermostat and that showed heating on. Radiators though were cold.
Went to the boiler, flame failure indication, and error code F29.
Looked up F29,
Ignition transformer failure or no gas.
Went out to tank, opened cover, gauge say 0 Bar......
We're  on a top up contract, we should never run out...
Suppliers Avanti are on Easter holidays..
Email sent...
I am not a happy Easter bunny...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on April 02, 2018, 10:16:57 PM
Quote from: The Q on April 02, 2018, 05:11:07 PM
Just the two of use and the dog who is keeping my feet warm at the moment.
We have no hot water or central heating, Friday I thought this is chilly, checked the thermostat and that showed heating on. Radiators though were cold.
Went to the boiler, flame failure indication, and error code F29.
Looked up F29,
Ignition transformer failure or no gas.
Went out to tank, opened cover, gauge say 0 Bar......
We're  on a top up contract, we should never run out...
Suppliers Avanti are on Easter holidays..
Email sent...
I am not a happy Easter bunny...

Is this a gas powered boiler?  :hmmm:

If so I came across this BBC news item this evening about a shortage of LPG affecting many customers.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43619732 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43619732)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on April 02, 2018, 10:23:05 PM
Sorry to read your lack of heat, Q.

That's a lot worse than not having hot water on tap.

Hope things get sorted PDQ!

Dave G

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on April 03, 2018, 09:31:08 AM
yep  My Gas is supplied by Avanti, their service centre didn't stay open over easter, I did get a reply pre written on 1st  of March, the pipeline was down for a couple of days, does it really take more than a month to catch up?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 06, 2018, 09:54:45 AM
Never mind angry with Evans Halshaw, I'm spitting feathers! :censored:
Yesterday the drivers side electric window on my Siesta packed up so, once they'd taken 5.40mins to answer the phone this morning, I spoke to the service dept.
Them:- "We'll need the car all day, sir"
Me:- "The car is 2½ years old so still under warranty. Will there be any charges?"
Them:- "If our investigation shows there is no manufacturers fault there will be a charge of £50 for the first 30 minutes"
Me:- "Are you suggesting it's driver error and I don't know how to operate an electric window? What else could it be but a fault with the car?"
Them:- "I understand what you are saying but we need to investigate"
Me:- "If you need the car all day I would have to ask a relative to collect me from your garage and bring me back much later. Do you collect the car?"
Them:- "Yes, but there would be a charge of £20"
Me:- "You're determined one way or another to get money out of me for what I consider to be a warranty repair but, forget it, I'll take it to my local garage as I'd rather pay them for a new window motor if necessary than pay you anything. Goodbye"

The MOT is due in September but as far as I am concerned the car is never going near Evans Halshaw again
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on April 06, 2018, 10:00:34 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on April 06, 2018, 09:54:45 AM
Never mind angry with Evans Halshaw, I'm spitting feathers! :censored:
Yesterday the drivers side electric window on my Siesta packed up so, once they'd taken 5.40mins to answer the phone this morning, I spoke to the service dept.
Them:- "We'll need the car all day, sir"
Me:- "The car is 2½ years old so still under warranty. Will there be any charges?"
Them:- "If our investigation shows there is no manufacturers fault there will be a charge of £50 for the first 30 minutes"
Me:- "Are you suggesting it's driver error and I don't know how to operate an electric window? What else could it be but a fault with the car?"
Them:- "I understand what you are saying but we need to investigate"
Me:- "If you need the car all day I would have to ask a relative to collect me from your garage and bring me back much later. Do you collect the car?"
Them:- "Yes, but there would be a charge of £20"
Me:- "You're determined one way or another to get money out of me for what I consider to be a warranty repair but, forget it, I'll take it to my local garage as I'd rather pay them for a new window motor if necessary than pay you anything. Goodbye"

The MOT is due in September but as far as I am concerned the car is never going near Evans Halshaw again

How on Earth can a window motor be anything other than a manufacturing fault / failure before warranty period expires? What did you do Nobby, jump through the window "Dukes of Hazard" style?!

Stupid behaviour by dealer.

Hope doesn't cost too much, rather think it could be worth a formal complaint actually.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Yet_Another on April 06, 2018, 10:02:14 AM
It's a main dealership, NPN. All they want is your money.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on April 06, 2018, 10:09:27 AM
I often think that many companies are just too big to remember how they got so big - customers! My wife has an account with a catalogue company. Because of previous problems with them 'mucking about', we agreed that I would pay off the outstanding balance. I rang them a few minutes ago. As I am not the account holder, I expected various security questions, but what a palaver.  :'(. As I said to the lady, I wanted to give them money, "I need the date and amount of the last payment before I can accept your card details", Me: "Why?", Lady: "Because I can not take a payment without those details".  :goggleeyes:. I then had to hang up, get the details required and then ring them back. The account is now closed!  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 06, 2018, 10:11:37 AM
Quote from: Yet_Another on April 06, 2018, 10:02:14 AM
It's a main dealership, NPN. All they want is your money.

This I know, but approached them as the car is still under warranty to me :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on April 06, 2018, 10:12:44 AM
Had to have a window winder motor replaced on my ancient VW polo, cost an arm and a leg.   :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on April 06, 2018, 10:15:40 AM
Aw come on Caz, Mick is already in a bad mood - stop making it worse.

Mick, definitely worth a complaint to EH, with a copy to Ford Customer Relations?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on April 06, 2018, 10:18:30 AM
Quote from: dannyboy on April 06, 2018, 10:15:40 AM
Aw come on Caz, Mick is already in a bad mood - stop making it worse.

Mick, definitely worth a complaint to EH, with a copy to Ford Customer Relations?

At least I cheered him up with a spelling mistake elsewhere.    ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on April 06, 2018, 10:51:19 AM
@Newportnobby (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)

Do you have another Ford dealership near you?  I see there is a Perrys in the NW. Worth a try.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mickeyflinn on April 06, 2018, 10:57:15 AM
I don't know which branch of Evans Halshaw NPN went to, but I've nothing but praise for the one in Ashton-U-Lyne.
My daughters '64 reg Fiesta went into limp-home mode a few weeks ago, and although she hadn't bought it from them (but had a Ford used car warranty), they fixed it with no problems.
After plugging their diagnostic equipment in, they found 14 different faults - needed a new throttle pedal, new throttle solenoid on the engine side, and they found a chaffed cable that they think was the cause of all the problems. She says it now drives better than it did when she first got it.
Total cost, including courtesy car with full insurance for most of the 2 weeks they had it, £0.00. 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 06, 2018, 11:33:03 AM
Quote from: daffy on April 06, 2018, 10:51:19 AM
@Newportnobby (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)

Do you have another Ford dealership near you?  I see there is a Perrys in the NW. Worth a try.

Thanks, Mike.
I've decided to go to Evans Halshaw on Monday in person and ask to see the Manager so he can tell what I have been doing wrong to knacker the window motor as it may not be a warranty issue. I will come away with an address for complaints to Head Orifice. Looking at the Perrys in the local area they seem to be used Ford only so may not take on my 'warranty' claim.

Quote from: mickeyflinn on April 06, 2018, 10:57:15 AM
I don't know which branch of Evans Halshaw NPN went to....

Happy to name and shame..............Preston.
Pleased you had good service
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on April 06, 2018, 11:48:44 AM
Remember to take your keys along with you Mick, instead of that adapted coat hanger you've been using. ;) :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on April 06, 2018, 01:07:30 PM
It's worth asking for a courtesy car if they want yours all day. That way you don't need to scrounge lifts.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Zogbert Splod on April 07, 2018, 12:33:00 AM
ParcelForce are a bunch of something nasty!  Probably not ALL of them, OK.  I've heard that some of them can be quite nice to their old Mums.

I had a package delivered today.  Having seen the tracking site report that it had been collected from the sender (Gatwick area), nothing then happened for over 24 hours.  It never appeared at the sorting hub if we are to believe the tracking website.  It skipped over that to appear in Edinburgh, then onto the van for delivery.  Good?  Well, time wise, I guess so.  Inside the 48 hours anyhow.

Then, this morning, knock on door, I happened to be right there in the hall way!  I opened the door in around 5 seconds of the knock.  I then saw the driver standing there by the recycle bin, with my package in the snow at his feet, in the process of signing the received thingie on his electric machine.  After 5 seconds!!!  He jumped like a frightened jumping thing, grabbed up the wet parcel, shoved it in my hands and scarpered.  I shouted after him, 'I say my good fellow, don't you require a signature of receipt for this package?'.  To which he replied, 'Ummm, eh, well... Actually, eh, don't worry, I'll see to it for you!'  Into the van, Le Mans start - gone!
My package was well soggy.  Fortunately for him (and me I guess), the contents were plastic and well wrapped inside, so no harm done.  I needed the parts in there so I wasn't able to keep the package whole to make a complaint.

I silently wished him the fleas/1000 camels/nether-regions treatment and let things go.  However, the woman who called me just a few minutes later to see if I had enough insurance did catch a little more than I would otherwise have given out in her direction.

All in all, a 'fun' day.....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on April 07, 2018, 11:52:40 AM
I sympathise, Allan. I ordered some kit and was watching the tracking log on line to suddenly see that it had been delivered. We were in and listening for the door bell, but didn't hear anything. The delivery instructions say that if we are out to leave in the porch. No sign of anything. Chased them up and about an hour later the courier turns up. It turns out that they get 20 mins to do a drop and his previous drop was on the other side of the city at rush hour. So he posted my parcel as delivered to give himself some wriggle room.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 07, 2018, 12:58:50 PM
Life can be full of little tribulations (no - not the tribbles from Star Trek :no:) and I let them build until I have a good head of steam and then when someone really deserves it they cop for the lot thus ensuring I am back in equilibrium. Little does the workshop manager at Evans Halshaw know what's coming his way Monday >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on April 07, 2018, 02:32:38 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on April 07, 2018, 12:58:50 PM
Life can be full of little tribulations (no - not the tribbles from Star Trek :no:) and I let them build until I have a good head of steam and then when someone really deserves it they cop for the lot thus ensuring I am back in equilibrium. Little does the workshop manager at Evans Halshaw know what's coming his way Monday >:D

Oh eck, storm warning!  :worried:

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mattycoops43 on April 07, 2018, 02:53:21 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on April 07, 2018, 12:58:50 PM
Life can be full of little tribulations (no - not the tribbles from Star Trek :no:) and I let them build until I have a good head of steam and then when someone really deserves it they cop for the lot thus ensuring I am back in equilibrium. Little does the workshop manager at Evans Halshaw know what's coming his way Monday >:D

I like the cut of yer Jib!

That's an inspector vimes'ism'. Save it up for when you need it!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Intercity on April 08, 2018, 12:54:38 AM
 It all my plywood and bracing to size, gave myself a big pat on the back for not cutting off any arms, legs or fingers, all the rip cuts were nice and straight, got the drill with a spade bit to drill holes for the underboard wiring to run through, went to make the first hole and a lot of sparks and smoke out of the drill stopped anymore progress.

Yep angry at Black and Decker for their wonderful piece of junk, and even more angry that I'll have to take a third trip to the DIY store and she'll out more cash for something I already have.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on April 08, 2018, 07:54:28 AM
That's got to be annoying!

My old B&D hammer drill must be 40 odd years old, weighs a ton and still does a good job.

It also carries a part and serial number label that states 'Made in England'.

Them was the days!

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: CaleyDave on May 28, 2018, 08:31:59 PM
After a few false starts getting together a group of people, I Made the mistake of leaving buying tickets for a rail tour up to someone who, despite planning on going, was less enthusiastic than I was.

Its now Sold out and said other didn't buy any tickets a fact I didn't find out until after it sold out.

But its alright, I am told, they did the route before...  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Intercity on June 22, 2018, 04:50:34 PM
Wifey had a guest over and proceeded to show him the house, including the train room(s), made me pretty annoyed, I don't like people I don't know going into the layout room especially with how much we pay for these things.

The guest then mentioned he "likes" train too, and enjoys playing with trains, I told him they are not toys no matter what people think, and we don't "play" trains, we create layouts and operate trains on them.

His choice of words and how he perceived the hobby made me quite angry (but as he was my wife's guest I had to bottle it up and went outside to mow the grass, that took 2hrs)

Yes, I'm protective of my train stuff!!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on June 22, 2018, 07:02:59 PM
I know how you feel wherever I worked people used to make fun of me
( playing ) with toy trains I just told them that you have to have lots of different skills to build and operate a MODEL RAILWAY and they are NOT TOYS but scale models and if they tried to build a layout then they might appreciate the work involved . I love showing my efforts to people ,but like you only to those that I know through the Forum or a Club.
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: silly moo on June 22, 2018, 07:22:53 PM
As a female modeller people are usually intrigued by my hobby. I gave up worriying about what other people say and think years ago.

My children used to be embarrassed by my hobby when they were teenagers but when their friends came round and said my layout was 'cool' everything was ok.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ditape on June 26, 2018, 01:05:01 PM
After receiving 2 separate orders from Track Shack on the Isle of Man I am still waiting for delivery of a similar order, placed before either Track Shack order, from Cheltenham Model Centre via Amazon ( I had a gift card to use ) Cheltenham is only 40 minutes by car up the road I could have walked and got my order quicker.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on June 26, 2018, 11:29:58 PM
I ordered some computer parts the other week and asked for them to be upgraded to be delivered by the Friday or Saturday, so that I had the weekend to set things up. They didn't arrive. On the Tuesday I received a card that they'd tried to deliver and it could be picked up from Wednesday morning. Unfortunately I would not be available during opening hours from Wednesday until Saturday, so I spoke to them and they were very helpful, contacting the driver and getting him to drop it in 10 minutes later. Then I found out why they were so cooperative ... it'd been posted on Thursday, special delivery - guaranteed 24hrs!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on June 29, 2018, 08:13:31 AM
Mrs Bealman came out of the gym last week to find this on our car.

$3000 and two weeks to get fixed. Two new doors required.  :veryangry: :veryangry: :censored:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/255-290618054017.jpeg)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on June 29, 2018, 08:20:49 AM
Argh!

That's happened to me and I suspect loads of others, too.

Total ratbags those that can damaged someone else's property and not have the guts to own up.  >:D

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on June 29, 2018, 12:49:37 PM
It happened to me years ago. I drove to Manchester Piccadilly station to pick up my parents. I was there about 10 minutes and when we got back to the car, the rear, nearside, passenger door was caved in. I'd only had the car a fortnight!

What made it worse was when, the next day, I had a sudden thought ... the area was covered by CCTV!

I phoned British Transport Police and was told that the cameras had been out of action for weeks. I am certain to this day that the cameras were working, but they couldn't be bothered reviewing the tapes :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on June 30, 2018, 12:43:55 AM
Yeah, there are cameras where my wife was parked, but we were told the same thing.  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on June 30, 2018, 02:10:26 AM
Gah, parents. Mine seem determined to come to Japan in autumn to see the Squidlet, which is understandable, however as both I and Mrs Squid have made clear to them twice, it's not practical at that time for a number of reasons, starting with the fact that some of us have a job and are not made of vacation.

So what do I wake up to - something to the effect "Hi, Airline X has a special offer on until Monday, we're comng for two weeks, if we can't stay with you we'll book somewhere nearby". Which is funny in itself, as there is nowhere "nearby" they can book. Gaah. :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on June 30, 2018, 03:40:14 AM
Quote from: daveg on June 29, 2018, 08:20:49 AM
Argh!

That's happened to me and I suspect loads of others, too.

Total ratbags those that can damaged someone else's property and not have the guts to own up.  >:D

I once saw someone reverse into a parked car, leaving damage, and drive off, fortunately I had a pen and paper and left a note on the damaged car's windscreen with pertinent details, seems it was enough for the police in the locale to take some sort of action and I got a message from the owner thanking me.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on June 30, 2018, 03:55:07 AM
That's certainly a good deed, Ian! No such luck here, though, unfortunately.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zopadooper on June 30, 2018, 08:49:19 AM
Quote from: railsquid on June 30, 2018, 02:10:26 AM
Gah, parents. Mine seem determined to come to Japan in autumn to see the Squidlet, which is understandable, however as both I and Mrs Squid have made clear to them twice, it's not practical at that time for a number of reasons, starting with the fact that some of us have a job and are not made of vacation.

So what do I wake up to - something to the effect "Hi, Airline X has a special offer on until Monday, we're comng for two weeks, if we can't stay with you we'll book somewhere nearby". Which is funny in itself, as there is nowhere "nearby" they can book. Gaah. :censored:

Whilst I can appreciate your frustration just remember that your parents are getting older and won't be around for ever so why not try and enjoy them while you have got them and let them have the pleasure of seeing Squidet for a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on June 30, 2018, 09:33:15 AM
Quote from: zopadooper on June 30, 2018, 08:49:19 AM
Quote from: railsquid on June 30, 2018, 02:10:26 AM
Gah, parents. Mine seem determined to come to Japan in autumn to see the Squidlet, which is understandable, however as both I and Mrs Squid have made clear to them twice, it's not practical at that time for a number of reasons, starting with the fact that some of us have a job and are not made of vacation.

So what do I wake up to - something to the effect "Hi, Airline X has a special offer on until Monday, we're comng for two weeks, if we can't stay with you we'll book somewhere nearby". Which is funny in itself, as there is nowhere "nearby" they can book. Gaah. :censored:

Whilst I can appreciate your frustration just remember that your parents are getting older and won't be around for ever so why not try and enjoy them while you have got them and let them have the pleasure of seeing Squidet for a couple of weeks.

Yes, I am fully aware of the passage of time and all that, but like I said, we have made it clear to them twice (well 3 times now) that that particular period is not practical and we will work something else out when it suits all parties (not just them).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on June 30, 2018, 11:36:07 AM
Last year I came back to my car and the front bumper had been re-arranged. There was a note under the windscreen wiper but I didn't hold up much hope so imagine my surprise when it was someone owning up and leaving their phone number. I was still sceptical but a coupe of weeks later my car had been to the body shop, fully repaired and paid for in full by the note leaver. It doesn't help Mrs Bealman but there is still some hope for humanity :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on June 30, 2018, 12:12:53 PM
Cheers, mate.  :thumbsup:

Always good to hear good outcomes.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on June 30, 2018, 12:20:30 PM
Someone left a note on Vals car once after a very minor scuff on the door .
It said someone saw me hit your car and they though I was leaving my name and address I didn't do it on purpose so tough luck.
Luckily we managed to T Cut it and polish the scuff out so it wasn't too bad.
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 30, 2018, 12:47:04 PM
Quote from: railsquid on June 30, 2018, 09:33:15 AM

Yes, I am fully aware of the passage of time and all that, but like I said, we have made it clear to them twice (well 3 times now) that that particular period is not practical and we will work something else out when it suits all parties (not just them).

I agree that parents, as well as children, require training. Just as they trained us when we were kids. My Mum would run rings round me if I let her (and she still tries every now and then) but I just remind her of her training and all is well :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on July 05, 2018, 10:42:59 PM
 :veryangry: Absolutely disgusting gutter reporting on BBC Newsnight right now. :veryangry: Looking into the background and lifestyle of one of the Amesbury Novichok victims. :veryangry: Utter gutter journalism. :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ian Bowden on July 07, 2018, 12:18:58 AM
Today for the second time I was able to watch via my video doorbell a parcel force delivery guy knock on the door glass ignore the message suggesting  placing the parcel in the secure Dropbox next to him and leave a card telling me to go to my local post office to collect the parcel. As he didnt ring the 3 inch by 2 inch doorbell all i had was the recording, had he rung the doorbell I could have spoken to him.

If I want to complain I can use an email link that is never answered or telephone one of their service advisors at a fee of £6.00. Rewarding incompetence or is it deliberate.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on July 07, 2018, 06:46:25 AM
Sadly hit and runs are common on the Norfolk Broads as well. Many tourists seem to think because they have paid for insurance to cover accidents in the hire boats, they can just drive off.
What they don't realise is if they are drunk in charge or as is the case recently a case of "boat" rage causing deliberate damage, they are not covered.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 08, 2018, 04:31:38 PM
On ITV4 I have frequently been confronted by adverts for the RSPCA or various other animal charities showing some fairly graphic footage of abused animals, particualrly dogs and donkeys. These now seem to be migrating to Channel 4 (seen during today's coverage of the F1) and they are broadcast with no warning whatsoever. Now, I find them quite upsetting but what about the effect this could have on kids? I dread to think.
Sorry, but I find this completely irresponsible broadcasting.
Rant over
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 08, 2018, 05:55:48 PM
Quote from: Lindi on July 08, 2018, 04:48:27 PM

It must be successful getting more donations or they wouldn't do. I get letters through the post showing the same graphic details.


I hope they are successful, and have no issue with them being broadcast.

Quote from: Newportnobby on July 08, 2018, 04:31:38 PM
they are broadcast with no warning whatsoever.

This was the main point of my post.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on July 09, 2018, 08:52:04 PM
I've got 89 points on Claywell and 81 of them are fitted with Seeps, 2 with Peco above board motors and just 6 with the Peco below board motors and I've just had the 3rd Peco fail out of the 6! 

Not one of the Seeps has failed just the  :censored: Peco ones and as usual always happen when you have visitors.  Regrettably where the Peco ones are fitted I have no choice but to fit the Peco clip on under point type otherwise I'd change them for Seeps.   :veryangry:   :veryangry:    :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainboy03 on July 12, 2018, 11:24:54 PM
I just want to take the corridors off of my Maunsell coaches and NOBODY can accept that I like the wide windows on one side and regular design, just without the gangways
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on July 13, 2018, 05:42:17 AM
Quote from: Trainboy03 on July 12, 2018, 11:24:54 PM
I just want to take the corridors off of my Maunsell coaches and NOBODY can accept that I like the wide windows on one side and regular design, just without the gangways

I think this is a case of "RULE ONE APPLIES"  It's your railway, run what YOU want.
Remind "Nobody" of that fact.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on July 13, 2018, 07:20:27 AM
Quote from: Trainboy03 on July 12, 2018, 11:24:54 PM
I just want to take the corridors off of my Maunsell coaches and NOBODY can accept that I like the wide windows on one side and regular design, just without the gangways

To quote the Cambridge Dictionary:

"nobody
noun [ C ] UK ​  /ˈnəʊ.bə.di/ /ˈnəʊ.bɒd.i/ US ​  /ˈnoʊ.bɑː.di/

someone who is not important"

It follows therefore that those nobodies who decry your desire have no say in the matter, and as the immortal Bard did say:

"To thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night the day, thou canst not then be false to any man"

Or, in short, to hell with what others think!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on August 23, 2018, 09:21:41 PM
Just learned today from my son (33) that he has lost buying the first rung on the property ladder.  The reason, his fiancee/long term partner doesn't have photo ID. 
They were buying the house together, but, because she doesn't have a driving license (doesn't drive) nor a passport (has never been abroad), apparently they can't get a joint mortgage, and because of house prices these days, his wage is not enough, and this is for a modest 2 bedroom terraced. Their "financial advisor" said that a birth certificate is no good any more for identification purposes, something to do with "money laundering". 
WHAT'S THE WORLD COMING TO? ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on August 23, 2018, 09:35:18 PM
Now that is just ridiculous! You would have thought that if the lady could prove she was who she said she was, that would be enough. Having said that, when Louisa and I first moved to Ireland, we opened a joint bank account - in my name and her maiden name, (cos that was all she could prove!). When we married a few years ago, I enquired of the bank how we got her name changed on the account. I was told to bring the wedding certificate to the branch together with ............ photographic proof of her maiden name! (She still has her passport showing her maiden name). We still have not got round to it as she is working when the bank is open!  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on August 23, 2018, 09:38:37 PM
Quote from: TrevL on August 23, 2018, 09:21:41 PM
Just learned today from my son (33) that he has lost buying the first rung on the property ladder.  The reason, his fiancee/long term partner doesn't have photo ID.   
WHAT'S THE WORLD COMING TO? ???

I've a driving license but it's still the old paper one (yes, it's still allowed) and no passport as I have never felt the need to go abroad and wasn't even allowed to collect a parcel from the localish UPS pick up point. Credit cards, utility bills etc weren't sufficient so I had to have it redelivered where I then had to sign for it!
If you can't even pick up a parcel there's no chance of you borrowing money.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on August 24, 2018, 12:23:34 AM
Quotedoesn't have photo ID. 
Ive said it before,an i'll repeat it hear,the uk passport has become the ID card by stealth,need to prove you can legally live in the uk? need to prove you can legally work  in the uk? need to prove your entitled to free treatment on the nhs? guess what is the only acceptable form of proof for  the vast majority of  people born and raised in the uk?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on August 24, 2018, 08:39:32 AM
Quote from: TrevL on August 23, 2018, 09:21:41 PM
Just learned today from my son (33) that he has lost buying the first rung on the property ladder.  The reason, his fiancee/long term partner doesn't have photo ID. 
They were buying the house together, but, because she doesn't have a driving license (doesn't drive) nor a passport (has never been abroad), apparently they can't get a joint mortgage, and because of house prices these days, his wage is not enough, and this is for a modest 2 bedroom terraced. Their "financial advisor" said that a birth certificate is no good any more for identification purposes, something to do with "money laundering". 
WHAT'S THE WORLD COMING TO? ???

I'd tell him to get a new financial adviser.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on August 24, 2018, 10:09:23 AM
We got our mortgage from Nationwide and we didn't have a passport in fact I didn't have one untill four years ago .
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 24, 2018, 12:01:50 PM
One of my colleagues went to the Nationwide to draw some money out and was asked for ID. As a joke, a few years before, some of the lads joined the Dennis the Menace fan club so he produced his membership photo I.D. It was accepted.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on August 24, 2018, 12:16:59 PM
 :laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: broadsword on August 24, 2018, 01:00:46 PM
Visits to Nationwide (my b soc) are usually a pain, after queuing for ages and getting my dosh
the staff usually say something inane like *What are your plans for the rest of the day ?*

No1 priority get out of the place !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: njee20 on August 31, 2018, 01:35:39 PM
The company I work for went into administration yesterday. This is obviously slightly rubbish insofar as I lose my job, either today, or at some point in the near future if I'm involved with winding up the remaining elements. This is obviously a minor inconvenience, but in the grand scheme of things nothing more.

Why it makes me angry is because of the biased and ill informed commentary that accompanies all the media attention. Historically the company did some morally heinous things, which were indefensible, but things have moved on, there are no remnants of the company from those days.

I've never worked for anyone with such caring, compassionate people who try so hard to do right by customers, and in the main succeed, with excellent feedback and customer satisfaction scores. A lot of excellent people will lose their jobs, and for many with working visas they will also lose their homes and their adopted country. All because of the transgressions of a former management team and a frustrating compensation culture.

No prizes for guessing my employer :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on August 31, 2018, 02:07:57 PM
Another term for cash and may have been Newcastle's shirt sponsor for a while?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: njee20 on August 31, 2018, 02:16:42 PM
I can neither confirm nor deny that...  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on August 31, 2018, 02:31:47 PM
I wish the best possible outcome for all affected.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Claude Dreyfus on August 31, 2018, 04:58:42 PM
Quote from: njee20 on August 31, 2018, 01:35:39 PM
The company I work for went into administration yesterday. This is obviously slightly rubbish insofar as I lose my job, either today, or at some point in the near future if I'm involved with winding up the remaining elements. This is obviously a minor inconvenience, but in the grand scheme of things nothing more.

Why it makes me angry is because of the biased and ill informed commentary that accompanies all the media attention. Historically the company did some morally heinous things, which were indefensible, but things have moved on, there are no remnants of the company from those days.

I've never worked for anyone with such caring, compassionate people who try so hard to do right by customers, and in the main succeed, with excellent feedback and customer satisfaction scores. A lot of excellent people will lose their jobs, and for many with working visas they will also lose their homes and their adopted country. All because of the transgressions of a former management team and a frustrating compensation culture.

No prizes for guessing my employer :)

I did wonder how it would affect you... whilst the outcome for is not surprising given the circumstances, it is still a worry. I hope things turn out well for you.

I too work in financial services, and am kind of resigned to the media hyperbole which accompanies the sector. It is easy to forget that there are a lot of 'ordinary' people who are impacted by situations such as this, or the decision-making processes by those far higher up the food-chain.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: njee20 on August 31, 2018, 05:05:24 PM
Yep - one of those things, it's so hard not to respond to all the negativity with the reality!

I'm staying on for an indeterminate period of time, and already have 2 interviews on Monday, so likely to end positively for me, as these things usually do! If I can continue to catch the 7.33 then even better!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 31, 2018, 09:11:03 PM
I wish you well in whatever you do :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on August 31, 2018, 09:12:54 PM
Good luck for Monday!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: njee20 on September 01, 2018, 09:12:46 PM
Thank you gents!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on September 01, 2018, 11:38:37 PM
Yep, all the best for Monday  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: chrispearce on September 02, 2018, 07:09:57 AM
Every day it is the same. The same people who are persistently late for work and hold the rest of us up. If one is ALWAYS 10 minutes late for work why not switch on brain and ALWAYS leave home 10-15 minutes earlier? I HATE civvy street. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: StufromEGDL on September 02, 2018, 07:37:20 AM
Quote from: chrispearce on September 02, 2018, 07:09:57 AM
Every day it is the same. The same people who are persistently late for work and hold the rest of us up. If one is ALWAYS 10 minutes late for work why not switch on brain and ALWAYS leave home 10-15 minutes earlier? I HATE civvy street. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Hi Chris,

It's the same in the mob these days.....nobody cares and summary punishment is frowned upon.
Nobody will think for themselves any more and always require solutions on a plate.
We can't hurt anyone's feelings now, can we???
More management levels make decisions longer and more difficult to achieve...and the higher the rank, the more averse to risk we become.

I look forward to retirement some days.....

Later,
Stu from EGDL.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on September 02, 2018, 10:37:30 AM
Quote from: StufromEGDL on September 02, 2018, 07:37:20 AM
Quote from: chrispearce on September 02, 2018, 07:09:57 AM
Every day it is the same. The same people who are persistently late for work and hold the rest of us up. If one is ALWAYS 10 minutes late for work why not switch on brain and ALWAYS leave home 10-15 minutes earlier? I HATE civvy street. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Hi Chris,

It's the same in the mob these days.....nobody cares and summary punishment is frowned upon.
Nobody will think for themselves any more and always require solutions on a plate.
We can't hurt anyone's feelings now, can we???
More management levels make decisions longer and more difficult to achieve...and the higher the rank, the more averse to risk we become.

I look forward to retirement some days.....

Later,
Stu from EGDL.

oh for the good old days,

GET FELL IN YOU HORRIBLE LITTLE MAN !

no PC
NO faffing about
AND GETTING THE JOB DONE !

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: chrispearce on September 02, 2018, 11:05:51 AM
Thank you gentlemen. Methinks we live in a post-hippy apocalypse.

It's been a long time since I heard anyone being referred to as an, "'orrible little man!" - or worse but this is a family show!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on September 02, 2018, 11:19:07 AM
Quote from: chrispearce on September 02, 2018, 11:05:51 AM
Thank you gentlemen. Methinks we live in a post-hippy apocalypse.

It's been a long time since I heard anyone being referred to as an, "'orrible little man!" - or worse but this is a family show!

My other half often calls me 'Miserable old git!' then we both laugh.

It's not all bad.  ;)

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on September 02, 2018, 12:58:31 PM
off topic, so apologies, but

Why were SWOs always little short folk ?

and

How did they manage to make you know that you were the one 'horrible little man' on a 500 man parade that they were shouting at ?

i presume it's all now more a case of Sgt. wilson, [would you mind terribly ...] than Sgt,Major Britten [get fell in...NOW]
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on September 02, 2018, 01:00:38 PM
Napoleon was a short person.

Best regards,


Joe (short person)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on September 02, 2018, 01:03:23 PM
I forgot Sachin Tendulkar  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on September 03, 2018, 01:32:44 PM
There are now no SWO's as such in the RAF, the General duties trade was scrapped. tThe most senior WO on station is given the Title I believe..

Yes the nastiest SWO I knew was very short, his wife dominated him.
He was banned from the technical Site at one station and from the technical buildings at another (before he arrived!!) as a danger to personnel.
He would not accept personnel working on very high voltage equipment had to work with one hand in a pocket. Neither would he accept that the rubber mats we stood on were not allowed to be polished...

oh his initials were JC...Smith..
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on September 03, 2018, 02:42:41 PM

I used to come across SWO's quite a lot in the early part of my Career during the early 80's, mainly as I was on GRIS (Ground Radio Installation Squadron) from RAF Henlow, this was due to us turning up at Camps and there being no accommodation available for us and us not being allowed to stay in Transit Accommodation, our SNCO's would then have to get the SWO's to sign our F95's to go out on Rate 1's, to allow us to stay in a Hotel.

As has been said, most of them were nasty so & so's and would really try and play hardball with us, but we'd always win through in the end, usually by reloading the wagons and  starting to drive off of camp, by which time Signals had been (yes Teleprinted Signals, no mobile phones or email in those days) passed back and forth all the way up to Station Commander level, to tell them to stop being an a*$e and sign the form. Mind you our life was hell for the time we were on Camp.

To counter act the a*&^%$£s at some Camps, the one we had at Henlow was actually a decent chap, I ended up on SWO's Working Party one year and it was a hot summers day and we'd been painting the old ATC Tower at Henlow, which as an aside had been built out of Mosquito packing crates during the war, in time for AOC's inspection. When the SWO turned up in his Green Allegro, with his yapping Jack Russell in it, he opened the boot and then supplied us with all the beer that he'd got from the Sgt's Mess. On another occasion I was bimbling out of Camp, when his window flew open and the immortal words "You, Airman, come here" came ringing out, everyone comes skidding to a halt, slowly truns towards his office and sighs a sghh of relief when you realise he's not pointing at you, however on this occasion he was pointing at me. So off I trotted towards him, comes to a halt, springs to attention and stammers out "Yes Sir", "Where do you work, young man?" he barks, "GRIS Sir" I replied, "Oh Dear" He says shaking his head "Get out of my sight" he follows up with, and firmly slams his window shut. So off I scuttled with a bit of a grin on my face, you see the I'd just got back off of a 2 week job and the only creases in my trousers where those across the back of my knees, my hair was down across my ears and my shoes were scuffed to hell, so I must have looked a real bag of s*&t to him.

There is a sad end to this story though, as he retired 6 months or so after these incidents after nigh on 40 years Service and I'd heard that he sadly passed away about 12 months after retirement.

Can't for the life of me remember his name, but he was a decent chap, Per Ardua Ad Astra sir.

Regards

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on September 03, 2018, 04:15:02 PM
Quote from: Calnefoxile on September 03, 2018, 02:42:41 PM
..
I used to come across SWO's quite a lot in the early part of my Career during the early 80's, mainly as I was on GRIS (Ground Radio Installation Squadron) from RAF Henlow,
...
..
the one we had at Henlow was actually a decent chap
...

I was employed out of trade on the Exhibition Production Flight '82-'85. We came under the command of the Advertisement and Recruitment Executive at Stanmore. Early in '82 they decided to address the asbestos in our workshops at Hendon and packed us off to Henlow. I remember the same SWO, but perhaps less fondly than you Neal. We we're a bit of a PITA though and would regularly forget we were in a uniformed organisation. :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on September 03, 2018, 04:48:33 PM
Quote from: RailGooner on September 03, 2018, 04:15:02 PM

I was employed out of trade on the Exhibition Production Flight '82-'85. We came under the command of the Advertisement and Recruitment Executive at Stanmore. Early in '82 they decided to address the asbestos in our workshops at Hendon and packed us off to Henlow. I remember the same SWO, but perhaps less fondly than you Neal. We we're a bit of a PITA though and would regularly forget we were in a uniformed organisation. :D

@RailGooner (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5427) I was there from 84-87 and I remember EPF being at Henlow. EPF were in the bottom hanger, next one down from either the Gym or Tech Stores storage (memories a bit vague these days), opposite MT I think  :hmmm: :hmmm:

We must have bumped into each other at sometime, either in the Bird, NAAFI, Mess or Bowling Alley  ;) ;) ;)

Cheers

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on September 03, 2018, 05:37:03 PM
Quote from: joe cassidy on September 02, 2018, 01:00:38 PM
Napoleon was a short person.

Best regards,


Joe (short person)

and I believe also a corporal  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on September 03, 2018, 06:20:20 PM
Quote from: Calnefoxile on September 03, 2018, 04:48:33 PM
@RailGooner (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5427) I was there from 84-87 and I remember EPF being at Henlow. EPF were in the bottom hanger, next one down from either the Gym or Tech Stores storage (memories a bit vague these days), opposite MT I think  :hmmm: :hmmm:

We must have bumped into each other at sometime, either in the Bird, NAAFI, Mess or Bowling Alley  ;) ;) ;)

Cheers

Neal.

Ah, yes, the Bird! My fav' pastime was playing Joy Division's 'Love Will Tear Us Apart' on the jukebox in the back bar. It was a 33rpm 7" so it sounded like Northern chipmunks on acid! Saturday night was disco night at RAF Chicksands - Michelob and JDs all round please barkeep. And we'd regularly go the Regal in Hitchin for the recording of BBC2's 'Sight and Sound in Concert'. I don't think I've a single serious bad memory from my time at Henlow. Don't think I've a sober memory from my time on EPF! Happy Days! :beers:

Sorry, is this not the 'Happy Thread'? :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 28, 2018, 01:58:09 PM
And today had been going so well..........
I'd had a very pleasant scrambled egg on toast brunch at a local café with my youngest sister, sorted my gym payment for October, arranged my flujab for 9th October and then...............
I rang the Natwest Credit Card helpline number :doh:
All I wanted to know was when I'd receive a new card as my old one is about to expire. That's now 31 minutes of my life I'll never get back before they even answered the call. When he asked how he could help me I said to answer the call more quickly than I could have gone by bus into the branch in Preston. Having done the necessary he asked if there was anything else he could help with and I suggested he changed the dire distorted music that had repeated 7 times while I was waiting and the constant "Your call is important to us. Thank you for your patience" interruptions. :veryangry: :veryangry:
Oh, and anyone suggesting I use internet banking will receive a visit from The Leyland Massive >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on September 28, 2018, 02:10:13 PM
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Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on September 28, 2018, 02:11:24 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on September 28, 2018, 01:58:09 PM
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I suggested he changed the dire distorted music that had repeated 7 times while I was waiting and the constant "Your call is important to us. Thank you for your patience" interruptions. :veryangry: :veryangry:
...

I'm convinced that the 'on-hold' music is intentionally loud and distorted in the hope it will annoy the caller such that they give up and hang up! :veryangry: :veryangry2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 28, 2018, 02:15:47 PM
Quote from: daffy on September 28, 2018, 02:10:13 PM
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Very good :laughabovepost:
At least I can laugh at that rather than let my blood boil, Mike
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on September 28, 2018, 03:16:58 PM
You have my sympathy Mike, as I've recently experienced similar calls to banks and insurance companies. One call last week took 45 minutes to elicit a response!  :veryangry:  I had put the phone on speaker, as I tend to do with all these type of calls, and was obeying a call of nature when the disembodied voice from the living room finally announced, "Hello, my name is David, how can I help you?" .

I had many responses flashing through my mind, none of them to do with insurance, all of them unrepeatable here, but all he got was: "One moment please", followed by the sound of a waterfall. ;)

My favourite  :no: tuneful waits are 'Spring' from Vivaldi's Four Seasons, or 'Autumn' from the same suite, with a jangly Willem Tell Overture being enough to torture even the most resilient ear.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 28, 2018, 03:36:42 PM
Yeah - I'd put it on speaker after a couple of minutes. My favourite (once) was Meatloaf and "Bat out of hell" but even that would pall after 7 or more playings :thumbsdown:

Thinking about it, if the music length is commensurate with the time it takes to answer the call, maybe Schubert's Unfinished Symphony would be the optimum :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on September 28, 2018, 08:27:21 PM
SWMBO was rushed into hospital monday morning, difficulty breathing, blue lips, swollen tongue, and even though the paramedics got her oxygen levels up they were not happy, and whisked her off - nee - naww -nee - naww.

sorted out the husky, advised daughters, and followed, at the speed limit of course  ::)

staff in A&E superb, as were the staff in resuss, and something called RAMU, she was then admitted to a ward.

this morning, customary phone call to see how she was, and is she still being discharged today ?

just waiting for her discharge to be written up and her TTO [think pharmacutical goody bag] to arrive from pharmacy. phone back at 11.00

11.00 just waiting for her discharge and TTO to be signed off, call at 14.00

14.00 think it's all been signed, just waiting for pharmacy, try about 16.00

16.00 no reply

16.30 still waiting for TTO

17.45 fed up and went up there, couldn't be more than the minimum car parking fee of two hours, could it ?

on arrival, saw nurse .. still waiting for TTO  >:(

19.15 saw sister ....it seems someone didn't sign off the TTO, so it wasn't sent to the pharmacy [apologies to the pharmacy for my curses] should be with us now first thing tomorrow.

by now, SWMBO in a right state, so keeping her in overnight, they'll phone in the morning  :veryangry:

cannot understand how the person who wrote her up for discharge, and then wrote her prescription for her TTO, couldn't bother to sign it  :censored:

hopefully she'll be home tomorrow now.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: acko22 on September 28, 2018, 08:37:37 PM
Quote from: class37025 on September 03, 2018, 05:37:03 PM
Quote from: joe cassidy on September 02, 2018, 01:00:38 PM
Napoleon was a short person.

Best regards,


Joe (short person)

and I believe also a corporal  :)

Nothing wrong woth short or Nasty or a corporal its three things put together I excel at!! Fair to say I keep things old school and not very PC generally refering to people with various but inventive names.

Hope the SMMBO is feeling better even though its another night stuck in hospital
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 28, 2018, 09:17:45 PM
Very sorry to hear of the problems with your other half. When they were kicking me out after the triple bypass I was told it would be midday so got my sister & Mum to come for me but for some strange reason the pharmacy was shut and the staff couldn't get my meds until 6pm. I always think the hands on folks are just brilliant but the back up (mainly office staff) let the whole side down. I especially have issues with (a) my consultant and (b) the appointments office ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on September 29, 2018, 07:53:27 AM
Not a good day for either of you! Hope the escape sheet gets signed off this morning.

Had similar experience while in hospital a while back. A Nil by Mouth morning due to camera down throat that didn't happen as they 'forgot' and went home at 4pm.

They also forgot to tell the ward so I was Nil by Mouth the entire day, despite my asking what was going on. Got a curled up, dry ham sandwich at around 6pm because 'the kitchen was closed'.

I know there's huge pressure on all the staff and have respect for what they do but I don't like hospitals much.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on September 29, 2018, 08:07:58 AM
Not exactly my favourite holiday destination either  :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on September 29, 2018, 02:44:42 PM
good news, paperwork snafu sorted this morning, and in due course phone call to say had arrived and she was good to go.

many thanks to those who sent her good wishes, and I agree, its not the grunts, its the pen pushers that are, as always, the problem.

got to build their empires / budgets - which then of course reduce what's available for the front line.

lastly, paramedic crew did get the choccies and biccies sent in [ a paramedic lives opposite us and took them in for me] and they also got my phoned in comments about their superb care.

so, all round, a great result.
only fly in the ointment is her discharge notes say 'see gp in 7 days' .............yer right  :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on September 29, 2018, 04:57:42 PM
I wish all those who have been visiting hospital recently well, and apart from the pencil-jockeys, glad our NHS is doing well for you all.

Touch wood I have not needed the service often in my life (rather important appointment looming though  :goggleeyes:).

I just wanted to agree with the general feeling of annoyance at pencil-pushing and general bearocracy. I nash my teeth with increasing frequency these days, now being in a position where I don't have to say "Yes Sir, No Sir, Three bags sir" quite so often.

This last week gone I had to catch myself from letting fly when informed that I "shouldn't be all doom and gloom" about something which had gone wrong, by the person who's responsibility it was to prevent it going wrong  :veryangry:

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on September 29, 2018, 05:04:25 PM
welcome to civvie life, where those that can, do, and those that can't, manage, discipline, moan, avoid responsibility, write manuals, and all at a higher pay grade  :no:

just remember,

illegitimie non carborundum

or for real people,

don't let the b******s grind you down  ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on September 29, 2018, 06:41:43 PM
Quote from: class37025 on September 29, 2018, 05:04:25 PM
welcome to civvie life, where those that can, do, and those that can't, manage, discipline, moan, avoid responsibility, write manuals, and all at a higher pay grade  :no:

just remember,

illegitimie non carborundum

or for real people,

don't let the b******s grind you down  ::)

Sounds like "Crab speak", ;) but all very true.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 18, 2018, 11:24:13 AM
I expect this will be classed as aggressive / abrasive atc , but WTH   >:(

had a phone call about 22:00 last night from no.2 daughter, boiler had packed up and no hot water / heating.

as they live in a council sorry 'housing association' [think same people, but now paid more for doing less] she phoned the emergency contact number. [unsocial hours enhancement to pay] to be told she'd have to phone back this morning. so NO emergency service, and didn't even take details. she did explain she had two young children and an 8 week old baby, but not interested. could have got as much help from a recorded message  :veryangry:

so, phoned back this morning to be told it will be tomorrow before they can get anyone out. explained all again about children / baby but NAAFI.

ACKO22, if I gave you a map reference ......? :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 18, 2018, 11:34:02 AM
Above post is shocking, and I have seen the same thing with private houses and so called "total care packages" on boilers.

Hope daughter is with hot water again ASAP.

QuoteACKO22, if I gave you a map reference ......? :D

Tactical boot strike in the offing?

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 18, 2018, 12:14:23 PM
at the very least  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 20, 2018, 07:20:33 PM
WHY DO WE PAY A TV LICENCE ?

yet again, it happens every couple of weeks, 'no signal available - retune

so I do, confirm I am in the UK, tell it, as always, that I am in England, then tell it I'm in the South East,


so why does it finally provide me with BBC1 WEST ?

needless to say, with ten minutes it goes pixelated, and SWMBO cannot watch some load of so-called celebs prancing around.

needless to say it's my fault.

so retune yet again, finally manage to get it to give me BBC1 South, and before it goes t*****p again, I head for the shed.

why can't we just have the channels we want, and have them actually WORK, most of the listed channels are a complete waste of space.

I'd be happy to just watch DVDs, but you still seem to be mugged by the government because they say you still need a TV licence, even if you don't want to watch the drivel on TV.


arrrrrrrrrghhhhhh
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 20, 2018, 09:04:57 PM
I've no idea what you're trying to re-tune. Is it your TV, a set top box, your geetar?
I do have some sympathy in that occasionally I have to do a re-tune on my set top box (which is actually an under the set box ::)) and I end up getting Channel 4 Wales when I live in Lancashire ???
Not understanding a word of Welsh I just keep re-tuning until I get the English version back. PITA, though. :unimpressed:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 20, 2018, 09:23:52 PM
the TV has freeview within, and that seems to be what keeps demanding to be retuned.
it seems to be getting more and more frequent, in fact this evening I've had to retune about 7 times in the last 4 hours.
worse than usual.

personally I'd be happy to watch DVDs, but SWMBO likes to watch the occasional program on TV.

so, obviously, over-ruled  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 20, 2018, 09:41:00 PM
I'm not surprised it's in the Angry Thread then!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on October 21, 2018, 12:24:15 AM
I'd get the aerial checked out because there should be no need to retune unless your set has a memory fault.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Nick on October 21, 2018, 11:01:04 AM
Quote from: Malc on October 21, 2018, 12:24:15 AM
I'd get the aerial checked out because there should be no need to retune unless your set has a memory fault.
That may be a contributing factor, but it wouldn't be my first port of call. Try the free things first. What @class37025 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311) is describing can happen with perfectly functioning TV gear and a properly installed antenna in good condition.

I have experienced similar problems here in South Wales. Living in the Swansea area, my antenna is aligned on a transmitter in Cardiff (Wenvoe), which is almost exactly in line with a transmitter on the Mendip Hills that broadcasts English channels (obviously). That's not normally a problem, because the signal level from Mendip is way down, and the TV stays tuned to Wenvoe. However, in anomalous propagation conditions, Mendip signals can rise to a level that the TV is happy to tune into, and it decides to show us BBC West... When the anomalous propagation declines, we're left tuned to a channel that's too weak for digital reception and we have to retune. The most common condition that causes these problems is known as "sporadic E" and tends to occur in the spring/summer, but can happen at any time of year when there are high pressure weather conditions. If you check a weather map at the moment you'll find a big high sitting off southern Ireland somewhere...

The propagation problem has always existed, but actual channel jumping is one of the wonders of the digital age, as analog sets didn't retune automatically. But those who are old enough (i.e. most of us! :D) may remember "co-channel interference" where noise and even ghostly pictures would be overlaid on our normal channels because our antennas were picking up a station elsewhere in the country on the same frequency.

To fix the problem you need to disable  the  TV's automatic tuning and automatic channel update facilities and then manually tune into the multiplexes that are transmitted by the transmitter you are intending to receive. The same needs to be done to any PVR/HDD/DVD recorder in use. This should fix it, although henceforth you have to manually retune when the transmitter changes its output channels.

Precise instructions depend on TV model, and the multiplex frequencies are available online, but if @class37025 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311) wants to PM me, I'll do my best to assist.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on October 21, 2018, 07:44:58 PM
Creatures are dying in the oceans and seas of the World.

"Reduce! Recycle!"  is the mantra of the age.

Then I read this news item today about plastic, fake, "carveable" pumpkins for Halloween::

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/fake-pumpkins-consumption-environment_us_5bc8d287e4b055bc947e99fa?guccounter=1&guce_referrer_us=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvLnVrLw&guce_referrer_cs=z0RxAl-R5o1l9YPu9agr8A (https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/fake-pumpkins-consumption-environment_us_5bc8d287e4b055bc947e99fa?guccounter=1&guce_referrer_us=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvLnVrLw&guce_referrer_cs=z0RxAl-R5o1l9YPu9agr8A)


Words fail me!  :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on November 04, 2018, 08:48:27 PM
Well tomorrow I am expecting a parcel from Amazon, hopefully the delivery will be tomorrow. Last Monday was not good, I was expecting a parcel with pet supplies to be delivered by...wait for it Yodel...not expecting the result to be good, a text message read, parcel will be delivered within 3 days. On Monday morning I get a text message delivery, will be between 9-40am and 11-40am, good I thought they have improved by giving me a 2 hour delivery slot. That was getting my hopes up because at 11-40am I get another text message delivery will be between 14-16 and 16-16 so thanks to Yodel I had to wait in all day so no change then has far as they are concerned. They were also stupid enough to ask me to rate their delivery performance so they got it big time.  Why do we have to put up with such bad service, I have complained to the company I bought the goods from has well. If it will make a difference I do not know, one of the items they sell I have not seen in any local pet shops/stores, or I would buy it from there.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 04, 2018, 09:42:15 PM
It could have been worse, Chris!......

https://www.itv.com/news/central/2015-11-23/courier-throws-parcel-on-roof-after-no-answer-at-the-door/ (https://www.itv.com/news/central/2015-11-23/courier-throws-parcel-on-roof-after-no-answer-at-the-door/)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on November 04, 2018, 11:31:23 PM
I would have gone dizzy looking up at that parcel ......phewwwwwww....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MalcolmInN on November 04, 2018, 11:49:49 PM
Quote from: Nick on October 21, 2018, 11:01:04 AM
most common condition that causes these problems is known as "sporadic E" and tends to occur in the spring/summer, but can happen at any time of year when there are high pressure weather conditions
Actually, tropo ducting is related to high pressure :)

SpE is also a problem, can be very intense but usually quite short lived (typically minutes or, intermittently, for an hour or so), much higher up in the ionosphere (or thereabouts :) )

Both much worse in the bad old days of VHF TV
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on November 05, 2018, 11:36:26 AM
Co channel interference is usually caused by a temperature inversion caused by high pressure. With modern yagi aerials the interfering transmitter would need to be in an approximate line with the required one, as in Nick's case.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 05, 2018, 12:05:14 PM
Quote from: Malc on November 05, 2018, 11:36:26 AM
Co channel interference is usually caused by a temperature inversion caused by high pressure. With modern yagi aerials the interfering transmitter would need to be in an approximate line with the required one, as in Nick's case.

You totally lost me after the word 'Co', Malc :dunce:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on November 05, 2018, 08:53:13 PM
I have had problems with the tv aerial in my loft, the rest of the house uses a aerial on a post mounted on the back wall,( I have no chimney on the house) with a 3 way splitter in the back bedroom. In the loft I have been using a old aerial mounted under a beam but i could not receive some of the channels so I have bought a Triax unix 52  high gain aerial to replace it. I did find a site which tells you what aerial type is required for the transmitter you are connecting too, in my case Winter Hill north of Bolton about 14 miles has a crow flys from me. That is a another job I need to do move some stuff from under the eaves so I can locate the aerial which is longer than my old one.
The need to retune the tv's ( I have 3 + a box) for Free View is a pain in the ****, they keep re arranging the numbers of the channels and also adding channels, not sure if there is a way round that.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on November 05, 2018, 09:01:44 PM
QuoteThe need to retune the tv's ( I have 3 + a box) for Free View is a pain in the ****, they keep re arranging the numbers of the channels and also adding channels, not sure if there is a way round that.
put up a dish and switch to freesat
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 05, 2018, 09:07:09 PM
I don't suppose you have an old satellite dish, (could be ex-Sky), have you @lil chris (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1784) ? If you have, or can get hold of one from somebody, you could buy a 'Freesat' box quite cheap and hook it up to the dish. My ex-Sky dish has four outputs - I connected two to the recorder/player thingy in the lounge and a third to a cheap 'Freesat' box that it is in the bedroom, connected to a TV, (so SWMBO can watch the TV whist ironing my shirts  ;)).  I think I paid about £30 for the box in Asda a couple of years ago. Even though I live in Ireland, when setting up the box, I just programmed in a Bradford postcode, so now I get all the Yorkshire programmes. The point of this rather long winded post is that it never needs re-tuning, we just look at the on screen TV guide and pick from about 150 channels!

Addit: as is the case living where I do, somebody else, (themadhippy),beat me to it!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on November 05, 2018, 09:33:28 PM
Quote from: lil chris on November 04, 2018, 08:48:27 PM
Well tomorrow I am expecting a parcel from Amazon, hopefully the delivery will be tomorrow. Last Monday was not good, I was expecting a parcel with pet supplies to be delivered by...wait for it Yodel...not expecting the result to be good, a text message read, parcel will be delivered within 3 days. On Monday morning I get a text message delivery, will be between 9-40am and 11-40am, good I thought they have improved by giving me a 2 hour delivery slot. That was getting my hopes up because at 11-40am I get another text message delivery will be between 14-16 and 16-16 so thanks to Yodel I had to wait in all day so no change then has far as they are concerned. They were also stupid enough to ask me to rate their delivery performance so they got it big time.  Why do we have to put up with such bad service, I have complained to the company I bought the goods from has well. If it will make a difference I do not know, one of the items they sell I have not seen in any local pet shops/stores, or I would buy it from there.

At least you got the parcel.

I ordered two items from a 'Caravan parts' company online.

Two days later "Your order has been despatched"

A week later...     ...no parcel.

Four days of them not answering the phone, and not responding to voice mails, four days of emails going unreplied.

Has now been escalated to PayPal.

I feel I will not be seeing my £13.90 again.

Thank  :censored: it wasn't more!

:veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on November 05, 2018, 09:35:45 PM
QuoteI just programmed in a Bradford postcode, so now I get all the Yorkshire programmes.
if you dont want yorkshire most of the bbc regions are available, starting at channel 950
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 05, 2018, 10:10:41 PM
Quote from: themadhippy on November 05, 2018, 09:35:45 PM

if you dont want yorkshire

??? ??? ??? Nay, I'm a Yorkshire lad!  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on November 05, 2018, 11:45:40 PM
Thanks @dannyboy (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4209) danny, I do have a ex sky dish on the front of the house, I forgot about that. Thats something to think about instead of paying a fortune to Virgin media for the tv package I have about £60 +  a month.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on November 06, 2018, 06:55:57 AM
We dumped Sky a few years back and got a Freesat box. That paid for itself inside a year what with the savings on the Sky subs. Just unplug the Sky box and add the new one. E easy!

You won't though get all the channels though and in fact there are some on Freeview that aren't on Freesat, which is a tad frustrating.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 09, 2018, 04:28:47 PM
sorted out a couple of wagons for another member on here, carefully packed them up to prevent damage, and took them to the post office in Hassocks.

"first class recorded delivery please"

the response ...

"can't accept that, it' too small to get both labels on it "  >:(

" no it's not, it's 13 x 7 x 4 cm, the address is printed at the top left of the largest face, ther is room for the postage label to the right of it, and room to put the recorded delivery label below the address, and wrap onto the side for the barcode to be on a flat surface"

"no, I can't do that, you need to get a bigger box or a jiffy bag"  :veryangry:

"I haven't got a bigger / heavier / more expensive to post box, or a jiffy / heavier / more expensive to post bag either, and I need to get this posted today"

"sorry, nothing I can do about it "  :censored:

I was tempted to phone a certain member and see if he could rain death and destruction on the jobsworth, but not sure off hand of the grid co-ordinates, so just fumed, left and drove home.

went on line, ROYAL MAIL - CONTACT US - COMPLAINTS and found a phone number, dialed, went through all the various options, and waited, and waited  >:(, and waited sone more  :veryangry:, just over 30 minutes before I got an answer   :censored:

however, very helpful lady, who explained everyone is complaining about the call waiting times, logged a complaint, no doubt one of many, and then confirmed that as far as Royal Mail is concerned there is no minimum size for a parcel / packet and suggested I contacted the Post Office, who are apparently separate.

did so, no contact numbers of course, fill in an online form  >:( but at least no 30 minutes of  :poop: music and messages about how sorry they are about the wait  :)

of course, they 'hope' to reply within 3 working days [ that would be 3 days for them, not those of us in the real world] but I don't hold out much hope with that.

so now I have to either find a larger box so the [lady dog] has got room to stick her labels on [ I have other suggestions as to what she could do with them  >:D] or buy a jiffy bag, and then go through it all again.

where is that bottle of scottish falling down water  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: acko22 on November 10, 2018, 01:22:38 AM
Quote from: class37025 on November 09, 2018, 04:28:47 PM

I was tempted to phone a certain member and see if he could rain death and destruction on the jobsworth, but not sure off hand of the grid co-ordinates, so just fumed, left and drove home.


Tell me the address it will only take me 5 min to get the Lat and Long for it then we can go from there, although don't expect anything too soon the RAF don't work at weekends, or Monday, Tuesdays, half day Wednesdays, occasionally Thursdays and not after 10am Friday! Oh and the building cant be too small! there is a minimum target size!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 10, 2018, 08:12:30 AM
Quote from: acko22 on November 10, 2018, 01:22:38 AM
Quote from: class37025 on November 09, 2018, 04:28:47 PM

I was tempted to phone a certain member and see if he could rain death and destruction on the jobsworth, but not sure off hand of the grid co-ordinates, so just fumed, left and drove home.


Tell me the address it will only take me 5 min to get the Lat and Long for it then we can go from there, although don't expect anything too soon the RAF don't work at weekends, or Monday, Tuesdays, half day Wednesdays, occasionally Thursdays and not after 10am Friday! Oh and the building cant be too small! there is a minimum target size!

:laughabovepost:
Incoming! :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 10, 2018, 09:31:13 AM
Quote from: acko22 on November 10, 2018, 01:22:38 AM
Quote from: class37025 on November 09, 2018, 04:28:47 PM

I was tempted to phone a certain member and see if he could rain death and destruction on the jobsworth, but not sure off hand of the grid co-ordinates, so just fumed, left and drove home.


Tell me the address it will only take me 5 min to get the Lat and Long for it then we can go from there, although don't expect anything too soon the RAF don't work at weekends, or Monday, Tuesdays, half day Wednesdays, occasionally Thursdays and not after 10am Friday! Oh and the building cant be too small! there is a minimum target size!

thank you very much for your kind offer, but I may just flag down one of the Apaches we get over, and ask them if they could help me out.

must have dreaming all those weekday and weekend evenings and nights spent out on the airfield with the 'brain on a chain', but nice to know nothing much has changed, though I'm sure it was 4pm on a friday  :hmmm: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on November 10, 2018, 10:19:12 AM
Beer-o'clock was 4.30pm for the night-shift on a Friday, having started at noon! :pint:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on November 12, 2018, 02:33:47 PM
The door bell rang unexpectedly this morning, was one of my neighbours letting me know he thinks some one has broken into my archery club hut,  He spotted it whilst taking his dogs for a walk.

Went down the club and this is what I found.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/71/5583-121118141329.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=71441)

They obviously couldn't get in the front with its three padlocks and a yale, so just burrowed their way in.  Just shows you a determined toe rag  will get in whatever. Three metal detectors, a 12 x 12 "kitchen" tent, several bows, a two ring camping gas hob, two kettles, (they left the gas bottles), and a 3 x 2 industrial type four wheeled trolley taken, along with various bits and bobs.

Police were very good and were there in less than half an hour, although not able to take any evidence due the to weather contaminating the scene.

Probably some crackhead trying to subsidise his habit.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 12, 2018, 02:35:21 PM
Parcel finally posted,

same jobsworth, who didn't seem to appreciate my comment 

"that big enough now for your labels, or should I make a suggestion as to where you stick them?"

ie one on front, one on back  :angel:

still, fellow member should receive in the next few days, and I await the Post Office reply to my complaint with bated breath.

most annoying thing is that the box I used originally arrived ...

first class ....

recorded delivery ....

and with both labels on it, with no problem with the delivery.  :veryangry:



ADDITION

just had an e-mail from the Post Office customer care team

"Thank you for your email about your recent experience at the Hassocks Post Office branch.

I'm really sorry to hear that you felt you were given incorrect information on sending your item of mail. I understand this has resulted in you being inconvenienced this may have caused.

Here at Post Office Ltd we take pride in the reliable, accurate and efficient service we provide, and all our branches should be aware of how important it is for correct advice to be given to customers when accepting their mail.

In respect of your experience, I'm happy to be sending a book of stamps to the value of £6.96 to your address as a goodwill gesture.

We do rely on customer's feedback to help us improve the service we provide both locally and across our network. This is shared internally so we can identify ongoing issues and take action where appropriate.

I hope the action I've taken has resolved the issue for you, and I trust we've been able to restore your confidence in the Post Office once again."

so, all in all, now a happy bunny, as long as neither the parcel or stamps get lost in the mail  :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: acko22 on November 14, 2018, 11:52:06 PM
Quote from: class37025 on November 12, 2018, 02:35:21 PM

In respect of your experience, I'm happy to be sending a book of stamps to the value of £6.96 to your address as a goodwill gesture.


Should have asked them if they could make sure it was in the appropriate envelope and labelling where it is required  :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on November 15, 2018, 11:44:08 AM
Quote from: acko22 on November 10, 2018, 01:22:38 AM

Tell me the address it will only take me 5 min to get the Lat and Long for it then we can go from there, although don't expect anything too soon the RAF don't work at weekends, or Monday, Tuesdays, half day Wednesdays, occasionally Thursdays and not after 10am Friday! Oh and the building cant be too small! there is a minimum target size!

Oi Gareth ( @acko22 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4166) ), don't let the cat out of the bag all they'll all want to join.

Anyway, that's a bit of a long working week  ;) ;) ;) ;)

Cheers

Neal. (ex.Fairy  ;) ;) )
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 15, 2018, 01:13:23 PM
Quote from: class37025 on November 12, 2018, 02:35:21 PM

In respect of your experience, I'm happy to be sending a book of stamps to the value of £6.96 to your address as a goodwill gesture.


:hmmm: Coming round to the time for Christmas cards. What can I think of to moan to the Post Office about? ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on November 15, 2018, 01:21:44 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on November 15, 2018, 01:13:23 PM
Quote from: class37025 on November 12, 2018, 02:35:21 PM

In respect of your experience, I'm happy to be sending a book of stamps to the value of £6.96 to your address as a goodwill gesture.


:hmmm: Coming round to the time for Christmas cards. What can I think of to moan to the Post Office about? ;)

How about:

"To whom it may concern,

I am sick and tired of constantly receiving post that does not contain an N gauge Warship in BR Green

Signed

Nobby"

:D

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on November 15, 2018, 01:36:37 PM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on November 16, 2018, 11:20:03 AM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on November 15, 2018, 01:21:44 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on November 15, 2018, 01:13:23 PM
Quote from: class37025 on November 12, 2018, 02:35:21 PM

In respect of your experience, I'm happy to be sending a book of stamps to the value of £6.96 to your address as a goodwill gesture.


:hmmm: Coming round to the time for Christmas cards. What can I think of to moan to the Post Office about? ;)

How about:

"To whom it may concern,

I am sick and tired of constantly receiving post that does not contain an N gauge Warship in BR Green

Signed

Nobby"

:D

Skyline2uk

Two days later a hastily-repainted frigate is delivered... :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on November 16, 2018, 03:38:13 PM
I just don't understand all this technical stuff ,My IPad Pro wouldn't turn on  by the touch method this afternoon so I put in the Password and it went off completely , I turned it on and it said enter PASSCODE not Password  my son said he never entered a Passcode and got in a huff snatched it from me and turned it on entered the PASSWORD and it came on turned it off by closing the cover ,opened the cover and it now works by touching the button ,
WHY ARE THINGS SO COMPLICATED .of course it was my fault it allways is But this time even Val witnessed that it wouldn't come on and wanted a PASSCODE.which according to Apple helpline is a six NUMBER code Glenn is supposed to have entered when setting it up from new he said he has never entered a number in it at all  not the one we entered as a password .
BUT AT LEAST ITS WORKING AGAIN FOR THE MOMENT.
I'm lost without my IPad as I'm all on my own here all day every day.
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on November 16, 2018, 03:50:47 PM
Bob, Mrs "H" has this technology disease. She can do all the right things, BUT, COMPUTER SAYS NO!

This morning she tried to print of her daily Soduko,  no response from the printer. So I tried NADA..  The printer just wasn't there!!  I could see it so I am certain it exists!!  .  Mr BLOKE (Me) says I'll do it for you,........  Deleted printer tried to re=install printer etc etc etc.  Went out to the local Bar.    came home switched off the internetty thing and !!  Magic we have a printer!.

I think we all need a small child in a glass case for use in "case of emergency" !!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 16, 2018, 04:19:31 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on November 16, 2018, 03:50:47 PM
I think we all need a small child in a glass case for use in "case of emergency" !!

@Jerry Howlett (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=276)
A bit harsh, Jerry. Next thing you'll be getting said small child to clean your chimney!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on November 16, 2018, 04:59:40 PM
@Newportnobby (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)    I actually need to find a trained monkey to get up the flue, to release said small child.  Offers ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 16, 2018, 09:12:16 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on November 16, 2018, 04:59:40 PM
@Newportnobby (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)    I actually need to find a trained monkey to get up the flue, to release said small child.  Offers ?

@Jerry Howlett (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=276)
If you'd trained the said small child in the first place you wouldn't have needed the monkey ::)
You must stop cutting corners and I think I need a word with Mrs H.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on November 23, 2018, 12:09:43 AM
Ok, I'm angry  :veryangry:

But only at me stupid self!! :veryangry:

Took Mrs Bealman to Sydney airport yesterday as she was heading to Darwin to see the Territory Bealette. Had booked a budget ticket on a budget airline.

Didn't read the small print, did I. Budget fare only included a baggage allowance of 7Kg. Mrs Bealman's bag was 9.4Kg, so I got slugged for an extra 60 bucks.  :smackedface:

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on November 23, 2018, 06:30:40 AM
Quote from: Bealman on November 23, 2018, 12:09:43 AM
Ok, I'm angry  :veryangry:

But only at me stupid self!! :veryangry:

Took Mrs Bealman to Sydney airport yesterday as she was heading to Darwin to see the Territory Bealette. Had booked a budget ticket on a budget airline.

Didn't read the small print, did I. Budget fare only included a baggage allowance of 7Kg. Mrs Bealman's bag was 9.4Kg, so I got slugged for an extra 60 bucks.  :smackedface:

Ouch, in real money that's a brand new Farish coach!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on November 23, 2018, 07:10:43 AM
Yes indeed. Mk1 of course  ;)

Hopefully a baggage coach  ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Webbo on November 23, 2018, 07:11:29 AM
Pretty mean on the part of the airline, George. Tiger?

Ah well, keeps the (your) money circulating in the economy.

Webbo
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on November 23, 2018, 07:14:53 AM
Jetstar.

But as I say, my silly fault.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tom U on November 23, 2018, 07:47:33 AM
Could she not have transferred 2.4 kilo of stuff from her bag to her pockets?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on November 23, 2018, 07:51:51 AM
Not sure how to answer that.

All I can say is no.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on November 23, 2018, 11:54:59 AM
Don't get up to any mischief while your wife's away George  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on November 24, 2018, 03:46:40 AM
Too late. Breakfast bar looks like an electronics workbench instead of something you eat off  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on November 25, 2018, 07:15:27 PM
You can eat your pizza/curry on the sofa - no need for a breakfast bar :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on November 25, 2018, 07:32:37 PM
Quote from: joe cassidy on November 25, 2018, 07:15:27 PM
You can eat your pizza/curry on the sofa - no need for a breakfast bar :)

:laughabovepost:

In my case on the floor in front of the TV, but the point is valid  ;D

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: weave on November 26, 2018, 05:52:29 PM
Hi all,

Not been on here before so apologies if been discussed before.

Last week we scrapped an old car that we used for taking the dogs to the common for walks. It was dying and beyond repair but was insured until the end of December.

We have just called the Insurance Company to let them know it was scrapped, possibly hoping for a refund for the next 6 weeks, only to be told that it would be £45 to cancel the policy. So, bit shocked, we said 'well, we'll just keep the policy, that we'd paid up front for a year, until it expires'.

'You can't do that now' it's company policy. 'If you don't pay we'll take you to court'.

'But if we hadn't told you, you would never of known. We were just being honest', we replied. 'Sorry, company policy'.

We spoke to a Manager, same response. Money grabbing  :censored:.

Fuming!!!

Thanks for letting me get that off my chest and any ideas appreciated.

Cheers weave  :beers:

I feel like going down to the South Coast and sticking one in their eye if that gives you a clue to who they are. (Not sure if you can mention names on here).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 26, 2018, 06:06:53 PM
day return to Hastings, direct, anyone  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 26, 2018, 06:08:36 PM
Quote from: weave on November 26, 2018, 05:52:29 PM
Hi all,

Not been on here before so apologies if been discussed before.

Last week we scrapped an old car that we used for taking the dogs to the common for walks. It was dying and beyond repair but was insured until the end of December.

We have just called the Insurance Company to let them know it was scrapped, possibly hoping for a refund for the next 6 weeks, only to be told that it would be £45 to cancel the policy. So, bit shocked, we said 'well, we'll just keep the policy, that we'd paid up front for a year, until it expires'.

'You can't do that now' it's company policy. 'If you don't pay we'll take you to court'.

'But if we hadn't told you, you would never of known. We were just being honest', we replied. 'Sorry, company policy'.

We spoke to a Manager, same response. Money grabbing  :censored:.

Fuming!!!

Thanks for letting me get that off my chest and any ideas appreciated.

Cheers weave  :beers:

I feel like going down to the South Coast and sticking one in their eye if that gives you a clue to who they are. (Not sure if you can mention names on here).

phone them back, and tell them that you are now going to SORN the vehicle, and so you need to retain your insurance.

ps, if you see any seagulls, shoot them in the eye with an arrow
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 26, 2018, 06:56:56 PM
A lot depends on the small print of course, but I would be inclined to call their bluff. Maybe seek some advice from Citizens Advice Bureau?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on November 26, 2018, 07:06:37 PM
I think, if you already told them that you have scrapped the car, that a SORN attempt will fail to alter their view. The CAB is worth a consult, but I suspect your best bet will be to appeal to the insurers once more - 'Manager' can just be a bottom level Team Leader these days - in writing to their MD or somesuch. After all, they wouldn't want you to make their hard-nosed intransigence too well known, now would they? ;) ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jimbo on November 26, 2018, 07:13:14 PM
I was under the impression you only get charged for cancelling the policy early if you paid Monthly by direct debit as then they would be losing out on some dosh!?!? That is outrageous if you've already paid the full amount for the Year up front!
In your case if you cancel the policy early then that's your choice, they're not losing anything, in fact, the risk to them is gone so they've gained in the deal already without charging you any extra! That's ridiculous!  :veryangry:.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: outofgauge on November 26, 2018, 07:38:58 PM
My company just renew on a monthly basis -on a direct debit format -if I cancel - they just run to the end of the month and leave it at that !!! Mind you  :veryangry: I've just changed from a 2.2 diesel honda crv circa 57 plate to a Nissan pocket rocket  16 petrol -2.5 yrs old worth 5 times the honda trade in value -and my insurance has gone down a load  ??? But then I've got 25 + years no claims and I'm still paying £290  A year ! (Should b a tenner in my view ):censored: Take it I'm propping up some young Muppet who has a noisy scuby-drives like a prat -and doors your car at the supermarket and just leaves ! Insurance companies just make it up as it happens -hoping you won't argue or read the fine print .

Rant over chaps
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on November 26, 2018, 07:42:19 PM
@weave (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=735)  Sadly the wording of the policy booklet I'm looking at online on their website has this:

QuoteIf you or we cancel the policy at any other time, we will refund the part of the premium you have not used subject to our cancellation fee of £45, our arrangement fee of £20, our call centre arrangement fee of £12.50 (if applicable) and any charge made by the insurer.

If this is the same HD policy you have, this is why I believe your attempt to forstall a charge can realistically only be successful through goodwill on their part.

Hope you can sway them.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: grumbeast on November 26, 2018, 09:10:31 PM
Ok, very much a first world problem but....
we're converting our carport into a dance studio for my Daughter.  Have really good contractors, however.. they discovered a serious leak in the window at the back of the room (they we already in place before the start of the conversion).  They didn't get to fixing it on Friday, we're in the middle of potentially record breaking rainfall in the next few hours (possibly upto 70mm in 12 hours!) and one of our contractors guys quit this morning so he's not sure when they can get back to us grrrrr.   Not their fault, but the schedule's slipping and its gone from being finished by December to maybe finished by xmas (HAve to fix the problem, mud the drywall, lay the floor (I'm doing that), install the mirrors and do the finishing bits... very first world, but it was one of the few things that has ever gone well for us so far (even down to getting a really quality contractor)

grrrrrr again

Graham
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 26, 2018, 09:38:47 PM
Just going back to HD a mo, I had a bad experience with them whilst sourcing motorcycle insurance and wouldn't touch 'em again with someone else's bargepole :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ian Bowden on November 27, 2018, 12:22:01 AM
I recently bought a new car. I went online with my existing insurance company (they drive yellow vans) and got a quote similar to my previous vehicle. When I rang to transfer the policy over I was told it would be half as much again. I told them I would just renew using the online quote and was told now you have spoken to us you will not be able to get the lower price online it is blocked.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on November 27, 2018, 12:37:34 AM
Don't ever go straight to your existing insurer.

Every year I go through four different comparison sites. Once your 'profile' is set up on each site it only takes a few minutes each year to get a good set of fresh quotes. I rarely pay any more than the previous year.

There's no reason to be loyal to a company, they'll never be loyal to you.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: colpatben on November 27, 2018, 07:17:25 AM
Quote from: class37025 on November 26, 2018, 06:08:36 PM
Quote from: weave on November 26, 2018, 05:52:29 PM


I feel like going down to the South Coast and sticking one in their eye if that gives you a clue to who they are. (Not sure if you can mention names on here).


ps, if you see any seagulls, shoot them in the eye with an arrow

Seagulls, Vultures all the same really. Opportunists all.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 27, 2018, 09:46:21 AM
Quote from: Ian Bowden on November 27, 2018, 12:22:01 AM
I recently bought a new car. I went online with my existing insurance company (they drive yellow vans)

Would that be Trotters Independent Traders by any chance? ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on November 27, 2018, 09:57:01 AM
I've never gone direct to an insurance company but always through a broker. For many years I used a company in Weston Super mare until they got taken over by an insurance company and surprise surprise the rates started climbing by a large amount every year.

So I use a specialist Landrover Broker for the modified landrover.

For the moment, having myself  long since reached a certain vintage, for the car and house, SAGA are the brokers.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ian Bowden on November 27, 2018, 10:33:06 AM
I usually shop around and have quoted rival offers which are usually matched  this year they had me because of the car switch and dates to run concurrent cars  I will just add them to my list and move on. Pity my list of companies I don't like is so big and the others shrinking rapidly
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 27, 2018, 10:37:43 AM
Am I the only one to think that once I hit 60 years young my motor premium has risen every year I survive on this earth? If I was a conspiracy theorist I'd tend to think someone in power has instructed insurance companies to price the oldies off the road as they're as dangerous as the teenagers :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on November 27, 2018, 11:18:24 AM
Both mine and the missus insurance goes up every year but we're just a victim of inflation. Both cars are low insurance groups, we're getting on and both have approx 30 years NCD. As a consequence we attract the insurers minimum premium. Occasionally we'll find an insurer at renewal that has a slightly lower minimum premium but it is always more than the year before. Our renewal was earlier this month and we did have a multicar policy where the multicar discount worked out at 0% as the premium couldn't go any lower!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on November 27, 2018, 11:34:18 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on November 27, 2018, 10:37:43 AM
Am I the only one to think that once I hit 60 years young my motor pruemium has risen every year I survive on this earth? If I was a conspiracy theorist I'd tend to think someone in power has instructed insurance companies to price the oldies off the road as they're as dangerous as the teenagers :uneasy:

It is because, as we here over the age of 60 can all testify personally, are loaded. This quote from a Times article, and the Report it refers to, from February 2017 confirms it:

QuoteThe incomes of pensioner households have overtaken those of their working-age equivalents for the first time.

The spending power of older people has been boosted by a wave of pensioners who are more likely still to be in work, to own a home and to receive generous pension pots, analysis by the Resolution Foundation for the Intergenerational Commission shows.

The As Time Goes By study, which charts income changes during the past half century, states that low growth for working-age households has coincided with a surge in pensioner wealth.

After housing costs, typical pensioner households are now £20 a week better off than typical working-age ones. In 2001 they were £70 a week worse off than working-age households.

So we, the over-privileged and wealthy senior classes, must simply allow ourselves to be ripped off as much as possible so that we can aid the survival of the poor insurers who are struggling against the tide of an ever poorer working population.

This has been a Tongue In Cheek Production.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 27, 2018, 09:42:57 PM
All the TV channel weather reports are promising this area Armageddon as far as wind goes for the next couple of days yet the BBC weather website has wind speeds no higher than 19mph. I have no doubt some poor sod somewhere will cop for some foul weather but why do they do this? Is it because they dropped such a huge clanger with Michael Fish in 1987 (?) and the storm in the SE they feel a need to cover themselves against all eventualities?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on November 27, 2018, 09:58:16 PM
I think the Beebs forecast are much less reliable since they switched from the Met Office to Meteogroup. However, they still continue to broadcast national severe weather warnings issued by the Met Office. Often the forecasts from the Met Office differ to those from Meteogroup - as is the case here.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 27, 2018, 10:08:08 PM
To me, I think it is a question of people protecting their derrieres. If they say there is a storm coming and it comes, they can say "We did warn you". If it is not so bad, they can say "We were lucky there". Just the same as when you walk into a shopping centre for example and see the sign warning of slippery floors, even though it has not rained for 24 hours!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on November 27, 2018, 10:19:45 PM
Armageddon? :hmmm:

The weather Armageddon here in Lincolnshire on Thursday looks to be the worst of the week, peaking, so they say, with winds of 46 (knots or mph?) with mainly light rain.
Forecast looks worst for the southwest and south coast with winds in the mid 50s. But, if the forecast is right  :hmmm: it looks like just another UK late Autumn storm. Hope all stay warm and dry and that no damage is caused to persons or property. :thumbsup:

And after the wind has dropped maybe I can do the last leaf pick up of the season in the garden.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Young Bulla on November 28, 2018, 01:00:39 AM
Just had couple of entertaining days.
  Work mate pointed out an ad for a dog on a gumtree type site for an affordable price, as usual I live nowhere near the seller but my everything spent some considerable time on the phone ensuring it was 'the one'.
Long story short:-
It most certainly was not.
It was a 600 mile round trip to find this out.
I now have four neat rows of puncture marks in my right arm.
Had to drive the 300 miles home with said arm swolen to twice it's normal size through rain and spray thick enough to drop visibility to twenty feet, with the added fun factor of Irish lorry drivers never put their lights on unless its already dark!
I also have a rather sore left arm after the tetanus jab and a rather queasy feeling off the antibiotics.
Oh, and the final kick in the teeth, changed £291 to get 300 euro, changed said Euro back to sterling and got £225.
Not the best of days, back to work tonight.
All the best
Stan.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NinOz on November 28, 2018, 06:07:04 AM
Windstorm went through here an hour and a half ago and still blowing.  One of my large gum trees (15+metres) blown down.  Washing line probably a write-off, shed damaged, fence ripped up and mulberry tree now half the size.  :(
Bush fires up north.  Dust storms last week.  Floods in Sydney.
Hmm, maybe something in this end-of-the-world talk. :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on November 28, 2018, 06:19:58 AM
My sister in law hit a wall of water this morning in a flashflood in Sydney and blocked traffic for an hour while they towed her car away. She wasn't hurt, though.  ;)

Been blowing hard all day here in Wollongong, and been in and out of it all day. Hey, it's just water.  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 28, 2018, 09:52:19 AM
The Beeb's weather site now says 40/41mph winds between 4pm and 6pm today. I may be mistaken but I understood they revamped their forecasting at a huge cost not so long ago but all it seems to have achieved is later warning and inaccuracy. It used to be the dogs wotsits but, hey, that's progress, right? (Sigh)

As for poor Young Bulla - I think that's a day he could have done without
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 28, 2018, 10:05:34 AM
my first job when I left school in '62 was at the Met office, or as it was then the Air Ministry Meteorological Office, and in those days they produced 24 hour, 5 day, and 30 day forecasts.

there were ex-corvettes sat out in the Atlantic providing weather observations, and Hastings weather aircraft flight sorties for the same duties.

all of course long gone as they and their crews cost money.

the computer at the head office in Bracknell was about a 100 feet long, and worked on punched paper tapes.

but, through my rose coloured spectacles, I remember the forecasts being reasonably accurate.

these days, they can't even get it right for the next day most of the time, and I'm sure many of us have checked the local forecast on the Met office website to see that it is sunny, and then glanced out of the window at the pouring rain  :veryangry:

is that what is termed 'progress'  :dunce:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on November 28, 2018, 10:06:40 AM
Not sure what you're saying, buddy....  (addressing Mick)

Better batton down the hatches, Mick!

Big storms here!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on November 28, 2018, 10:31:07 AM
Quote from: Young Bulla on November 28, 2018, 01:00:39 AM
Just had couple of entertaining days.
  Work mate pointed out an ad for a dog on a gumtree type site for an affordable price, as usual I live nowhere near the seller but my everything spent some considerable time on the phone ensuring it was 'the one'.
Long story short:-
It most certainly was not.
It was a 600 mile round trip to find this out.
I now have four neat rows of puncture marks in my right arm.
Had to drive the 300 miles home with said arm swolen to twice it's normal size through rain and spray thick enough to drop visibility to twenty feet, with the added fun factor of Irish lorry drivers never put their lights on unless its already dark!
I also have a rather sore left arm after the tetanus jab and a rather queasy feeling off the antibiotics.
Oh, and the final kick in the teeth, changed £291 to get 300 euro, changed said Euro back to sterling and got £225.
Not the best of days, back to work tonight.
All the best
Stan.

What an awful experience Stan. :(

The owner should face some sort of penalty. As for the dog.......  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on December 03, 2018, 11:12:31 PM
 :veryangry:
Just watched Mighty Trains (S1 E2) The Shinkansen. The episode were Central Japan Railway take the credit for coming up with the idea of, and being the first to build, a tilting train.

Flippin' cheeky adAPTation of history! :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on December 04, 2018, 06:58:26 AM
 :censored: :censored:INSURANCE COMPANIES :veryangry: :veryangry:
Before my trip to India this winter I took out a travel policy with Staysure Insurance, paying £1200 for the privilage. On Mon last week I felt unwell so  was spending the day in bed. I got up to relieve myself and passed out, luckily landing on the bed. When I came round I was surrounded by people including ambulance staff who tried to get me down the stairs. On the way I had to rest, sat down and promptly vomited several pints of blood. On reaching the hospital I was rushed into Intensive Care and after various tests was diagnosed with cancer of the aesophogus.
So Mon. pm SWMBO contacted the insurance company; Wed am they got round to requesting we authorise them requesting the last two years medical notes, which we promptly e-mailed back and they in turn sent to our GP after sitting on it for 24 hrs. On Sat am I was allowed to leave hospital by the medical team but couldn't go because the insurers hadn't guaranteed payment. After spending nearly all day on the phone and getting the run-around from the insurance company we gave the hospital the equivalent of £400 so we could actually leave. When I got back to my apartment SWMBO and I went downstairs to the hotel restaurant as we hadn't eaten since breakfast; after dining I stood up and nearly passed out again! I was taken back to the hospital and it was found that I had a resting pulse rate in excess of 170 beats per min. with my heart showing signs of starting to beat erratically. I promptly went back into ICU and was medicated to control my heart rate. By the following Monday I was again declared fit to leave and was told that my heart problem was caused by lack of blood and the insurance company had finally guaranteed payment for the first visit! I am sure the stress caused by my insurers was a contributory factor.  Rather than face another day's hassle we left the, by now, £500 with the hospital to guarantee their payment. This morning ( Tues.) my wife again contacted the insurance co and was told that they have agreed payment to the hospital; so we should finally get our money back; and that following our visit to the hospital on Sat ( to get final release and "fit to fly" letter) they will arrange our flights home.
I have nothing but praise for the hospital staff, but why oh why do insurance companies fail to give the sort of service that one reasonably expects to ease what is a traumatic experience instead of adding to the trauma by callouse indifference and foot dragging?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 04, 2018, 07:18:05 AM
Exactly. Scary post.

You have my sympathies totally, and I hope recovery is quick and successful.

All the very best.

George
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on December 04, 2018, 08:56:59 AM
Steve, very best wishes for a successful recovery.

We all get that insurance is a wager, but why some insurers have to be so insensitive while they try and welch on the bet is beyond me.

For consideration later on:
https://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/ (https://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 04, 2018, 11:03:36 AM
Horrible tale, Steve, but I hope there is a decent outcome for you
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on December 04, 2018, 12:05:46 PM
I hope things turn out okay for you Steve. That is certainly a good example of how not to look after customers!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ian Bowden on December 04, 2018, 01:09:23 PM
Unfortunately the innocent have to carry the burden caused by the few. I think insurance companies are reacting to the recent spate of false stomach bug claims coming out of the Mediterranean holiday industry.
I have a friend who waited over a week in a Moroccan hospital while his insurance checked every thing out, he had made claims for the last 3 holidays, broken leg, fell out of bed and hit his head on table and cellulitis.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 04, 2018, 01:58:54 PM
just noted on my bank statement that the government have sent me my christmas oap bonus ....

a whole £10...

why am I angry, you ask ?

because when my late father-in-law first got his, back in the late '70s / early '80s it was the princely sum of...

£10  :veryangry:

amazing how everything else, ie income tax, national insurance, fuel tax, MP's wages and pensions, prescription charges, need I go on, have gone up, but this meagre 'christmas bonus' hasn't since it first started in the last century  :censored:

yep, I think I am posting this exactly where I want to  :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on December 04, 2018, 02:13:16 PM
Shhhhhhhhhh! :uneasy:

Don't mention it too loudly, you never know who's 'listening' :no:

'They' will probably agree with you it's practically worthless, and stop paying it altogether! :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 04, 2018, 02:26:57 PM
OOOOPPS  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on December 04, 2018, 03:08:17 PM
Well that has answered a question I have had for the last two years. In December 2017 and last week, I received just over €11. Whilst I knew it was from the UK Pensions people, I never knew what it was for - now I do! Thank you.

Addit: Whilst I do not want to upset any of my UK friends on the forum, the Irish Government also pay an OAP bonus at Christmas. This year it has been reinstated to the full 100% of the weekly rate, (last year, because of 'austerity' measures, it was only 85%), so yes, that means I get one week extra pension - sorry.  :-X ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 04, 2018, 04:43:58 PM
You could at least take the smile off your face whilst apologising, David ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 04, 2018, 06:55:15 PM
 :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on December 04, 2018, 09:33:16 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 04, 2018, 04:43:58 PM
You could at least take the smile off your face whilst apologising, David ;)

Okay,  :sorrysign:, suitably chastised and smile gone. 'Course, what I will look like when it is paid on Friday ....................  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on December 06, 2018, 11:33:21 AM
 :veryangry:
I know it's Pantomime season, but really!

[spoiler]
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/72/5427-061218112017.jpeg)

Oh no it isn't!

Trains That Changed The World (S1 E6) The Supertrains at 40 minutes (ish) in.


Yet another flippin' cheeky adAPTation of history! :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:
[/spoiler]
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: weave on December 09, 2018, 04:06:05 PM
Quote from: weave on November 26, 2018, 05:52:29 PM
Hi all,

Not been on here before so apologies if been discussed before.

Last week we scrapped an old car that we used for taking the dogs to the common for walks. It was dying and beyond repair but was insured until the end of December.

We have just called the Insurance Company to let them know it was scrapped, possibly hoping for a refund for the next 6 weeks, only to be told that it would be £45 to cancel the policy. So, bit shocked, we said 'well, we'll just keep the policy, that we'd paid up front for a year, until it expires'.

'You can't do that now' it's company policy. 'If you don't pay we'll take you to court'.

'But if we hadn't told you, you would never of known. We were just being honest', we replied. 'Sorry, company policy'.

We spoke to a Manager, same response. Money grabbing  :censored:.

Fuming!!!

Thanks for letting me get that off my chest and any ideas appreciated.

Cheers weave  :beers:

I feel like going down to the South Coast and sticking one in their eye if that gives you a clue to who they are. (Not sure if you can mention names on here).

Hi all,

Just to say that the Battle of Hastings is over. Credit where credit's due, they backed down and waved the cancellation fee as a gesture of goodwill but lots of phone calls to get there. Must read small print more often, although I know I won't.

Cheers weave.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 09, 2018, 09:11:24 PM
Glad you got a result in the end, Weave. To my mind that should never have happened in the first place, though :unimpressed:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on December 09, 2018, 09:33:21 PM
I love that phrase that companies come out with - "a gesture of goodwill". It implies that they are doing you a huge favour and yes,the small print probably does say that they were in the right all the time, but being 'in the right', does not make it right! Glad it was sorted Weave.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 15, 2018, 04:35:18 PM
Last weekend my mancave (the conservatory) sprang a leak which causes me concern as that's where the main layout is. Now I don't know what it's like in other areas but I was phoning various roofing/repair companies up from Monday morning onwards, leaving messages on mobiles and landlines but not one called me back. In the end I was put in touch with a roofer on Thursday who came out straight away and spent 3 hours in the cold up on my roof cleaning out the guttering and 'altering' some work next door had had done on their roof by another bunch of liars and which was causing my leak. My chap was 75 years old but was up and down ladders like a youngster (he also replaced 8 broken tiles I had been assured had been done by a previous cowboy and he showed me them as proof). I still am uneasy about the leak but it has been raining here for about 5 hours now and all is dry. Sometimes I feel I ought to be on TwitFace just in order to name and shame the companies who have obviously never heard of 'customer service' but who I'm sure, if I'd wanted a new roof, would have been swarming over me. It's all very well them getting big contracts (and fair play to them) but folks with problems they consider small just can't find anyone to help. I also need a radiator in the bathroom replacing but no one wants such a small job and I can't afford to replace the entire bathroom furniture just to attract 'workers'
Rant over (for now maybe)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on December 15, 2018, 04:57:48 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 15, 2018, 04:35:18 PM
Last weekend my mancave (the conservatory) sprang a leak which causes me concern as that's where the main layout is. Now I don't know what it's like in other areas but I was phoning various roofing/repair companies up from Monday morning onwards, leaving messages on mobiles and landlines but not one called me back. In the end I was put in touch with a roofer on Thursday who came out straight away and spent 3 hours in the cold up on my roof cleaning out the guttering and 'altering' some work next door had had done on their roof by another bunch of liars and which was causing my leak. My chap was 75 years old but was up and down ladders like a youngster (he also replaced 8 broken tiles I had been assured had been done by a previous cowboy and he showed me them as proof). I still am uneasy about the leak but it has been raining here for about 5 hours now and all is dry. Sometimes I feel I ought to be on TwitFace just in order to name and shame the companies who have obviously never heard of 'customer service' but who I'm sure, if I'd wanted a new roof, would have been swarming over me. It's all very well them getting big contracts (and fair play to them) but folks with problems they consider small just can't find anyone to help. I also need a radiator in the bathroom replacing but no one wants such a small job and I can't afford to replace the entire bathroom furniture just to attract 'workers'
Rant over (for now maybe)

Nobby, it's not just you.

I have lost count of the tradesman who fail to answer calls or, lord save me, use the dreaded words "I will call you back".

It took three attempts to get our boiler serviced when we first moved in. One fool even turned up "on time" a month late! We now have a chap who doesn't install but specialises in repair. He carries all spares in his van and is brilliant. Once you have a good guy hold on!

We have even had people fail to come back when they were owed money.

Re your small jobs; have you tried "Rated People"? We literally wanted one tile replaced and I put the job on at 10:00 on a Sunday night. Had two e-mails by morning and the job done by Tuesday.

One small warning; They have to pay for your contact details so you may get the opposite effect of multiple calls!

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on December 15, 2018, 05:00:33 PM
I sympathise Mick. Early in November, I noticed a hole was appearing in the fireback - we have an open fire in the lounge and it was cracked in a couple of places. I bought some fire cement and filled the hole.  A couple of days later I called at a fireplace company and explained the problem and also stated that we were thinking of getting one of those log burner fires, but I did not what to spend too much, as we intended moving back to the UK within 18 months. To give the fella in the shop his due, he recommended that we did not buy a log burner if we were thinking of moving, he also gave me the number of a bloke who would replace the fireback. I phoned him and he said it would be a straight forward job, but he could not get back to me until the beginning of December - I am still waiting for his phone call! Needless to say, once the holidays are over, I will be ringing some other tradesmen!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: weave on December 15, 2018, 06:14:38 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 15, 2018, 04:35:18 PM
Last weekend my mancave (the conservatory) sprang a leak which causes me concern as that's where the main layout is. Now I don't know what it's like in other areas but I was phoning various roofing/repair companies up from Monday morning onwards, leaving messages on mobiles and landlines but not one called me back. In the end I was put in touch with a roofer on Thursday who came out straight away and spent 3 hours in the cold up on my roof cleaning out the guttering and 'altering' some work next door had had done on their roof by another bunch of liars and which was causing my leak. My chap was 75 years old but was up and down ladders like a youngster (he also replaced 8 broken tiles I had been assured had been done by a previous cowboy and he showed me them as proof). I still am uneasy about the leak but it has been raining here for about 5 hours now and all is dry. Sometimes I feel I ought to be on TwitFace just in order to name and shame the companies who have obviously never heard of 'customer service' but who I'm sure, if I'd wanted a new roof, would have been swarming over me. It's all very well them getting big contracts (and fair play to them) but folks with problems they consider small just can't find anyone to help. I also need a radiator in the bathroom replacing but no one wants such a small job and I can't afford to replace the entire bathroom furniture just to attract 'workers'
Rant over (for now maybe)

Hi Mick,

We have a very small leak in our bedroom (no jokes). Apparently the previous owner, who was a builder, bodged the bit of flat roof to sell it.

Thought get 3 quotes as you do. First guys great. On time with ladders.

Second guy said 4.30 pm. We said 'but it'll be dark'. 'No problem, I have powerful torches' he said. Turned up with only the torch on his mobile phone and no ladders. He rearranged the appointment with Mrs weave and came 2 days later in daylight and said that 'he hadn't got a ladder tall enough as didn't realise that the roof was so high'. It wasn't that dark when he came before, we have house lights and Christmas lights as well.

Can't swear, family forum etc. but what a nincompoop.

Third one didn't turn up today.

I like the first guys, obviously, but their quote could be too much.

Hope all gets sorted with you.

Cheers weave  :beers:



Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 15, 2018, 09:18:05 PM
Thanks Chaps, although I'm sorry it isn't just me.
Just checked and all is dry still. To be honest, with the 45 or so mph winds and pissistent heavy rain coming down at present, if it's OK in the morning I'll consider the job well done :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 21, 2018, 11:09:15 AM
really  :censored: >:( at the idiot who disrupted gatwick airport over the last couple of days with a drone, but 
1. why no system in place to deal with such an occurrence ?
and
2. the worst ever excuse from the police, "we couldn't shoot at it for the risk of stray bullets"
this from those who ponce around all day in a crowded airport [ie target rich environment] with automatic sub machine guns !

thought they were supposed to be highly trained marksmen.

further comments would probably become political.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 21, 2018, 11:21:59 AM
In my world, any plane hitting a drone could possibly crash, inevitably with loss of life. Therefore, any scrote flying a drone in such an area should be charged with attempted murder. A '1Km no drone zone' is pathetic. There are electronic gizmos available that 'repel' drones and make them land where they took off (as demonstrated on the morning news yesterday) but the likes of Gatwick would rather create chaos for 1000s than spend money wisely. I love the Dutch who have trained birds of prey to take down drones >:D :D As per @class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311) , further comment from me is likely to incite riot.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: red_death on December 21, 2018, 11:28:12 AM
I think the point about stray bullets is not them missing so much (though that has to be taken into account) but where do bits of bullet or debris end up?  Or if they do miss (not exactly a static target) where does the bullet drop/hit.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on December 21, 2018, 12:05:12 PM
Quote from: class37025 on December 21, 2018, 11:09:15 AM

2. the worst ever excuse from the police, "we couldn't shoot at it for the risk of stray bullets"
this from those who ponce around all day in a crowded airport [ie target rich environment] with automatic sub machine guns !

thought they were supposed to be highly trained marksmen.

What goes up must come down, live rounds fired at an airport whether or not they hit the target. if they come down and hit an aircraft would cause a catastrophic damage, especially to fully fuelled aircraft.
In the past when rounds fired at a target range have missed people have been killed several miles away.

During WW2 much damage was caused by rounds returning to the ground that had missed their target. (and probably deaths)


Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 21, 2018, 12:06:10 PM
but surely, such a "highly trained" marksman shouldn't be letting of bursts of bullets, but a single carefully aimed single shot.

if they are not going to shoot, why did we see so many of them, and their vehicles, just standing around.

possibly, beats doing their proper job of actually getting onto the streets and dealing with crime ?

I remember when I was sworn in, back in the 60's, my duties were defined as ' the prevention and detection of crime' nowadays there seems to be none of the first, and precious little of the second.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on December 21, 2018, 12:09:39 PM
You are talking about a tiny moving target several hundred feet up in the sky, much of which is whirring blades though which you could fire and miss.
Even if you did hit it, it could come down on an aircraft or fuel tanker which if next to a building or full of passengers would cause many hundreds of deaths
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on December 21, 2018, 12:13:18 PM
Quote from: The Q on December 21, 2018, 12:05:12 PM
Quote from: class37025 on December 21, 2018, 11:09:15 AM

2. the worst ever excuse from the police, "we couldn't shoot at it for the risk of stray bullets"
this from those who ponce around all day in a crowded airport [ie target rich environment] with automatic sub machine guns !

thought they were supposed to be highly trained marksmen.

What goes up must come down, live rounds fired at an airport whether or not they hit the target. if they come down and hit an aircraft would cause a catastrophic damage, especially to fully fuelled aircraft.
In the past when rounds fired at a target range have missed people have been killed several miles away.

During WW2 much damage was caused by rounds returning to the ground that had missed their target. (and probably deaths)

Absolutely, although not used these days the old 7.62mm/.303 weapons had an effective range of 1.5 miles, although an actual range of a lot more. The 5.56mm weapons used today still have a range in excess of 1.5 miles or approx. 3 km in new money.

Cheers & Merry Xmas

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 21, 2018, 12:19:46 PM
so presumably, no consideration of frangible rounds, or even 'bean bags' as we used to call them.

so again, if you arn't going to shoot, why so many armed officers standing around doing nothing ?

supposed it got some TV coverage, but nothing to actually deal with the problem, or help in any way the thousands of stranded passengers.

saw 900 was there, but presumably they couldn't drop a cargo net on the drone, no probably too difficult and might damage the grass when it hit the ground.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on December 21, 2018, 01:11:23 PM
Photon torpedoes or simple Phasers would sort em out.

Oh yes, and you could aim them at the drones too. ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on December 21, 2018, 01:15:31 PM
Quote from: daffy on December 21, 2018, 01:11:23 PM
Photon torpedoes or simple Phasers would sort em out.

Oh yes, and you could aim them at the drones too. ;)

Take the drone out and you leave the operator free to launch another. Take the operator out ............  >:D (Where's the SAS when you need them?).  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on December 21, 2018, 01:19:03 PM
You can guarentee they are there in the background somewhere...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on December 21, 2018, 04:01:40 PM
Quote from: The Q on December 21, 2018, 01:19:03 PM
You can guarentee they are there in the background somewhere...

If they weren't, they are now.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on December 21, 2018, 04:31:43 PM
Armed officers in airports, towns and cities are trained firearms officers, which is an awfully long way from being a marksman and frangible rounds would be totally ineffective against a such an object moving at speed several hundred feet in the air, not quite the same as shooting at some protester with a soft center 50 yards away.

And trying to track the transmission signal in an area with already congested airwaves would be a nightmare.

Until a safe and effective solution is found, not dissimilar to the American system which I am sure they will sell to us for vast sums, stopping air traffic is the only 100% safe solution.

Whilst it may be considered that the lead officer was a little slow to react to the situation in terms of bringing in expert outside assistance, they made the absolute correct decision to shut the place down until safe.

If I was on one of the aircraft taking off when a drone went into the engine air intake causing it to disintegrate, the aircraft to lose 50% of its thrust at a critical time resulting in it crashing into a small nearby village causing hundreds of deaths, I wouldn't be happy  :confused1:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on December 21, 2018, 04:39:14 PM
Quote from: class37025 on December 21, 2018, 12:19:46 PM
so presumably, no consideration of frangible rounds, or even 'bean bags' as we used to call them.

so again, if you arn't going to shoot, why so many armed officers standing around doing nothing ?

supposed it got some TV coverage, but nothing to actually deal with the problem, or help in any way the thousands of stranded passengers.

saw 900 was there, but presumably they couldn't drop a cargo net on the drone, no probably too difficult and might damage the grass when it hit the ground.

The problem is range. The drone operator can probably see anybody coming within low velocity round range from a mile off (literally), so they carry on hiding then popping up somewhere else when the coast is clear. The Airport perimeter is huge, so a scumbag with a drone and a car can pop up all over the place through the day.
The electronic 'return to base' type zappers rely on the drone running its standard operating system. If it's been modified specifically to cause trouble (which it sounds like it has) then you'd probably need to be doing flat out full spectrum radio jamming, in which case if you're lucky it would stay in the same place long enough to be shot down, but is more likely to have a "run to waypoint" functionality that drops it somewhere away from both the police and the operator for the operator to recover if the coast is clear. Also, for that sort of radio jamming, it's pretty short range again unless you want to disrupt *everything* for a long way around.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on December 21, 2018, 05:49:31 PM
Although Police say today they have "persons of interest" identified, latest news reports suggest a drone has again been sighted:

From BBC News feed online:

"Flights at Gatwick have been suspended again due to a new "suspected drone sighting".
A spokeswoman for the airport said: "We are just hearing a report of another drone sighting that we are investigating.
"As we look into it we have taken the precaution of suspending flights."
Aircraft have been circling above the airport as they are currently unable to land. Details are still coming in on the "suspected rogue drone".
The sighting reportedly occurred at about 17:10 GMT.
The Ministry of Defence has not confirmed the sighting but Sussex Police said its officers were investigating."

Hope they  :censored: the culprit(s) when they catch them. :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 21, 2018, 07:07:25 PM
so now it is confirmed

we are the laughing stock of europe, if not the world, because we can't even deal with a drone.

isn't it great to be british
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on December 21, 2018, 07:29:38 PM
On the 11th December I ordered an item over the net, (part of Louisa's Christmas present, so can't name the company in case she looks over my shoulder). Unbeknown to me, the item was coming from Switzerland, but it arrived in Ireland, via Germany and the UK, on the 13th - two days! So, as you do, I followed the parcels route via the website of the Courier company, (okay, it was 'GLS', which is a subsidiary of 'Royal Mail' apparently). On the 14th, there is an entry which states that there was a problem with my address. I had quoted my Eircode, (similar to Postcode in the UK, but each individual address in Ireland has a unique code), so there should be no problem.  On the 17th, I used the 'GLS' contact form to ask what they were doing and why did they not use the Eircode finder on the internet? I am still waiting on a reply from 'GLS'. So yesterday, I sent an email to the sending company, letting them know of the problem. Just before 4pm today I received a reply stating that they had been in contact with 'GLS' and the parcel would be with me before 6pm. I went to pick Louisa up from work and we arrived home, just before 5pm, the parcel was waiting for me! I do not know what the sending company said to 'GLS', but it worked.  :thumbsup:. So actually I am happy, but what makes me  :veryangry: is a) 'GLS' have not had the courtesy to acknowledge my email and b) I had to get the sender involved. 'GLS' stands for 'Global Logistics Systems' - I know what it should stand for - 'Great Load of  :poop:'. Okay, rant over.  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 21, 2018, 07:37:58 PM
 :laughabovepost:

I sent four parcels to Tenerife via parcel farce, checked the tracking and it said

parcel 1 delivered on wednesday
parcel 2 delivered friday,
parcel 3 attempted delivery friday, returned to depot
parcel 4 'now in delivery country'

however, the recipient said all four parcels arrived together on the same day.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 21, 2018, 07:39:51 PM
 Sussex Police said its officers were investigating.

don't hold your breath  :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: acko22 on December 21, 2018, 08:06:49 PM
Ok so firstly I am so glad I am not on call this year or I could be at Gatwick!

The whole thing of shoting down a drone, has it been done before YES, how did they do it? About 15 blokes with AK47s effectively putting up a wall of lead and hoping for the best! That was in Mosul which well was a war zone when it happened not a busy international airport with lots of innocent people about.

Frangible rounds AKA hollow points, well they are made to break up on impact with the target so unless you hit the drone as above that takes a lot of guns and brass flying!

Bean bag rounds, well they are low velocity (shotgun) rounds with a limited range about 100ft and beyond that due to the ballistics even if you could get it to fly the 400 - 500ft these drones have been flying at the accuracy would make the chances of hitting the target a billion to one!

Now the fun one get a marksman / sniper to shoot it down err OK then it's not call of duty! Hit a fast moving erratic object, with turbulence from buildings and the varying wind speeds and directions at differing altitudes (above 250ft the wind can be totally different to ground level), now that is a hell of a shoot and I do mean something special!

Even with large calibre sniper rifles the ballistics will be heavily effected by these factors, and then you have the next issue even should a standard issue army sniper rifle round hit the drone it WILL go straight through it and continue on its flight so not you have a round with lots of power going anywhere towards anyone and anything!

The army are now there with specialist kit, what kit exactly I won't go into but they can track where the commands are coming from for the drone, and force the drone down, however the kit that can be used to take the drone(s) down well is just as dangerous to aircraft electronics (yes some of it is extremely powerful).

So while its a pain if I was a passenger I would rather they get it dealt with than risk it and see what happens!

Oh and to give you an idea the standard issue Army sniper rifle range danger area (so how far that round could actually fly for is, 4.5km or about 3 miles and for .50Cal is 5km so in excess of 4 miles) I know from planing and running ranges where we have been firing them!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on December 21, 2018, 08:21:25 PM
Many thanks for all that insight @acko22 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4166) . :thumbsup:

Just a little drone, but so, so difficult to deal with, and I for one am thankful that the situation is being handled by knowledgeable people who are not prepared to put the public at risk. It's an unprecedented and complex situation so of course we cannot expect an instant result. Thankfully no one is being any more than inconvenienced so far. I hope for a solution as soon as safely possible.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 21, 2018, 10:33:02 PM
see from the news tonight the drone/s was /were back again this evening, though luckily for only a short period of time.

what is it with this / these scrotes ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on December 21, 2018, 11:56:45 PM
It is comparatively  easy to pick up a continuous signal using a spectrum analyzer with a yagi aerial.

However many of the functions of all drone can be autonomous and it's quite easy to add another small computer  with pre-programmed flight plans. There fore from the ground you could use just Bursts of communication when you wanted to change plan. This would make the tracking of the "commander" much more difficult.

This case aside,  every would be protestor or terrorist having seen the events will be going "that's an interesting idea.
Just think, half a pound of explosive put into a radio controlled model aircraft flown into an aircraft just fueled up would be able disaster almost impossible to stop.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: acko22 on December 22, 2018, 01:36:16 AM
Quote from: The Q on December 21, 2018, 11:56:45 PM
It is comparatively  easy to pick up a continuous signal using a spectrum analyzer with a yagi aerial.

However many of the functions of all drone can be autonomous and it's quite easy to add another small computer  with pre-programmed flight plans. There fore from the ground you could use just Bursts of communication when you wanted to change plan. This would make the tracking of the "commander" much more difficult.

This case aside,  every would be protestor or terrorist having seen the events will be going "that's an interesting idea.
Just think, half a pound of explosive put into a radio controlled model aircraft flown into an aircraft just fueled up would be able disaster almost impossible to stop.

I refer back to my knowledge of capabilities that the Army have without going into detail, you will be extremely surprised how easy it is for the specialist units to defeat such drones and also track radio signals even on burst mode. Again I know this from work and cannot / will not go into more detail than that.
The aim however is while you can defeat these drones so easily is to catch the person behind this and prevent them from sending them up. If you just destroy the machine the person behind it can just go and get another one.

The issues that there will currently be is tracking this person is actually 2 fold, firstly crowded airwaves making tracking harder but also our laws which means as a norm we cant use the full range of capabilities without the highest clearance and full safety factors taken into account due to the crowded airwaves in every modern country.

As for the potential terrorist threat, believe me they are already well aware and have used it to horrific effect in Iraq and Syria. There are massive issues to overcome and none of it is an easy fix there are hundreds of factors to take into account.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on December 22, 2018, 07:10:01 AM
Maybe this should be in the Happy thread....

Success! Drone flyers have been apprehended! :thumbsup:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-46657505 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-46657505)

Apropos of what @acko22 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4166) mentioned here, that article includes the comment

Quotespokeswoman for the airport said military measures put in place at the airfield made it safe to reopen.

Hopefully they will throw the book at them!

Or just lead them into Gatwick Terminal and leave the public to take care of them with a nice cup of tea. :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on December 22, 2018, 10:46:39 AM
I think that there might be in the region of 350,000 people affected by this drone nonsense who might be only too happy to take the alleged miscreants off the authorities hands and 'teach them the error of their ways'...

...and just because they've arrested two suspects the police/military shouldn't think that they have them all and discontinue the search...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 22, 2018, 11:50:30 AM
I'm sure there are a lot of heartfelt thanks going out to the army guys for sorting this out.

more importantly ALL airports should now be installing equipment to prevent a recurrence, either at Gatwick or elsewhere, as it is patently obvious that the police are unable to deal with this sort of situation.

the equipment is available, it just needs the bean counters to allocate some of their profits to what is obviously a future threat.

imagine the disruption if this had happened at Heathrow.

addition from BBCnews

"Police remain at the airport to "detect and mitigate" any further drone threats"

considering how ineffective they were for three days, I hope some squaddies are still there to do the work, while plod poses and no doubt the P&CC is working out how much extra she can screw from the council tax payers next year. >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: acko22 on December 22, 2018, 07:20:34 PM
Quote from: class37025 on December 22, 2018, 11:50:30 AM
I'm sure there are a lot of heartfelt thanks going out to the army guys for sorting this out.

more importantly ALL airports should now be installing equipment to prevent a recurrence, either at Gatwick or elsewhere, as it is patently obvious that the police are unable to deal with this sort of situation.

the equipment is available, it just needs the bean counters to allocate some of their profits to what is obviously a future threat.

Sadly if it was only this easy, it was obviously a more advanced drone than your cheap £100 amazon special.
The army lads did what they needed to (again can not go into detail) but there are so many issues to over come to prevent this occurrence the default cannot be to call the army in every time!

To give you an idea (this is open knowledge) there are so many methods to operate these things just look around your home how much stuff uses radio signals of some type?
Then imagine how many times more different radio equipment at an airport using the full spectrum of radio signals its a nightmare! As i have previously said the Army do hold the kit to block these signals but you need to find out what signal it is first before you can deal with it other whys you have to block the lot and try and figure it out from there which just isn't an option as you will need to close the airport to deal with it.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 22, 2018, 08:39:35 PM
I assume not only a more advanced drone, but also possibly someone who was able to bypass or overcome the software stopping drones flying near airports. [geofencing ?]

I was not suggesting that the default should be to call in the army each time, my premise was that the airport authorities should be looking to taking responsibility and at installing either systems, or the equipment for response, in the event of further incidents.

the police are obviously incapable of dealing with such incidents, so surely the responsibility lies with the airport operators.

unfortunately, since we've seen how much disruption can be caused, it will no doubt not be long before some other scrote / s decide to try it.

it was said on one of the reports that the systems exist, but cannot be legally used at this time, so perhaps the government should get off it's backside and change the necessary laws.

or are they too happy with the fact that this has taken over the news, with less reporting on the failures in Brexit.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: acko22 on December 23, 2018, 12:59:06 AM
Quote from: class37025 on December 22, 2018, 08:39:35 PM

I assume not only a more advanced drone, but also possibly someone who was able to bypass or overcome the software stopping drones flying near airports. [geofencing ?]

3 questions from that:

1) Does Gatwick indeed any UK airport have geo fencing set up? (Possible but honestly so far very unlikely - It falls more into the realms of the CAA to govern that)
2) Did this / any future drones that incur restricted airspace have the required GPS software to prevent them infringing on restricted airspace fitted. (I suspect for the most part nope)
3) Even if it becomes UK law to have GPS fitted to ensure on UK sold drones, there is nothing stopping a person(s) buying one from another country where it isn't law to have the required GPS and software fitted. (These issues of items not meeting UK guidelines are already an issue in alot of electronics bought online)

Quote from: class37025 on December 22, 2018, 08:39:35 PM
I was not suggesting that the default should be to call in the army each time, my premise was that the airport authorities should be looking to taking responsibility and at installing either systems, or the equipment for response, in the event of further incidents.

the police are obviously incapable of dealing with such incidents, so surely the responsibility lies with the airport operators.

it was said on one of the reports that the systems exist, but cannot be legally used at this time, so perhaps the government should get off it's backside and change the necessary laws.

This issue needs dealing with at all levels can't just the airports, police, government or military and here in lies the issue.

One of the issues been the kit the military have used to deal with this are secret and if we make it available for use it won't be long before people work out how it works and that not only allows them to get round the kit but in a military sense it makes that kit worthless as it won't take long for any foe to find out how to get round it. This has happened in the past with similar kit and cost both money but more importantly lives. So I am sure many of you can understand we are no willing to make this technology more accessible.

There are systems in use in the US to combat drones at a few airports, but they come with another world of issues (I can talk about this as it's not military). Their primary method of locating a drone is a very high powered radar due to the size and construction (plastic), when I say high powered I mean similar to what is used to long range tracking radar in the UK which are kept away from populous due to how powerful they are, which is already a drama as they do on their own act as a jamming platform to all other communications you would expect to see at a civilian airport.

Once this part has tracked a potential target it goes to what are in effect air defense turrets which visually track the target, part of this is the next issue to "range" any potential target they have laser range finders. This is the next issue they need military weapon grade lasers. While that tech isn't secret they are extremely powerful and dangerous so using them in such a populated area and such busy airspace opens up a can of worms! And this grade of laser is only authorized to be used by the military and under very strict circumstance in the UK.

Final bit when the turret has locked on is it fires on the target to bring it down with a capture net, great in theory and at the airports it is used at in America that's fine they are isolated locations. But here in the UK you can't have these things just dropping out of the sky anywhere.
I work off Manchester Airport for this example at the Eastern end of Runway one you have the railway line directly underneath with OHLE which you don't want it coming into contact with, houses just off the flight path, major roads. Its how to get around all that.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on December 23, 2018, 08:31:16 AM
Adding power to radar  as in a long range radar which used have  projected powers of up to 30mega Watts  wouldn't help that much.  Long range radars only rotate at 4rpm and have a comparatively long wavelength.

What would be  needed is a fast rotating, short range, short wavelength radar. To pick small objects that can change direction  very rapidly..  A second scanner would be required  to lock on to an object being fed by the information from the first radar. .  This all starts getting expensive as you would  need at least one each end of a runway, plus crew to man it 24hours 364days.

Outside of the major airports this would be unsustainable.

Fitting gps  would only stop the  amateur,  GPS,  or any other devices fitted to drones or radio controlled aircraft can easily be defeated,  by enthusiastic protestors or terrorists..

The ultimate  drone / model aircraft  could be fitted with a computer control programme take off fly around for a bit, causing grief,  then fly off somewhere else, to be picked up.   Making it difficult to be there to catch the criminals. Or they may not be interested in collecting it and it may be crashed into an aircraft.

Aircraft tend to park at the same place at a terminal every time on schedule you don't need detection gear to find it to hit it..
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on December 23, 2018, 11:37:48 AM
What this case really needs is for any person(s) charged with an offence to be brought up before a 'Judge Jefferies'-type hang-'em-all judge who will give them the full sentence to act as a deterrent to future incidents. Unfortunately in this day and age, they will probably be given a slap on the wrist and advised not to do it again...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 23, 2018, 12:09:40 PM
"One of the issues been the kit the military have used to deal with this are secret and if we make it available for use it won't be long before people work out how it works and that not only allows them to get round the kit but in a military sense it makes that kit worthless as it won't take long for any foe to find out how to get round it. This has happened in the past with similar kit and cost both money but more importantly lives. So I am sure many of you can understand we are no willing to make this technology more accessible."

I quite understand the implications you refer to, but according to so called experts on the news etc there is supposedly commercially available kit which could be used without the security implications.

surely something is better than nothing, even if you need to close the airport for a couple of hours to use the kit to neutralise the threat, that must be better than three days of disruption to hundreds of thousands of people.

if other countries can deal with these threats, why can't we ?

or is there simply not the bottle will in those responsible to actually take the necessary decisions ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 23, 2018, 08:27:59 PM
it appears the two people arrested for the drone offences have been 'released without charge' and are now 'no longer persons of interest'

so the scrote / s is / are still out there, and plod is no wiser.

ain't modern policing great. :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 23, 2018, 08:30:13 PM
Quote from: talisman56 on December 23, 2018, 11:37:48 AM
What this case really needs is for any person(s) charged with an offence to be brought up before a 'Judge Jefferies'-type hang-'em-all judge who will give them the full sentence to act as a deterrent to future incidents. Unfortunately in this day and age, they will probably be given a slap on the wrist and advised not to do it again...

and probably given their drone back  :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on December 30, 2018, 05:26:12 PM
As a responsible dog owner, I always carry a supply of poo bags for when the inevitable happens.  However on this evenings walk, I came across two piles in the middle of the footpaths. The first  was in sight of a County Council camera with sign nearby clearly stating footage would be used to prosecute, but it was still left there.

Call me stupid, but I couldn't leave it so I bagged it and took it with me.  A little further down the road, there's another lot, this time it's been bagged, but they've just left the bag in the middle of the pavement.  Again I picked it up for proper disposal.

What is it with these people?  Don't they think the rules apply to them?  or are they just selfish and inconsiderate?
My feelings are if they're not prepared to take the responsbility of owning a dog, they shouldn't be owning a dog.
I wonder how they would feel if someone posted the contents of their dog's alimentary canal through their letterbox, not happy I'm guessing?

Sorry, Rant over!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 30, 2018, 05:37:53 PM
possibly a good thing you didn't see the owners ...

I've offered bags to owners before, and in response received a tirade of offensive remarks...both from male and female owners

in fact one guy I had to threaten to use reasonable force on before he quietened down...

though needless to say he didn't avail himself of my offer of the bag, and when I phoned the council I got the usual ' oh, well we can't be everywhere' response, though I suppose quite true when they won't get off their backsides and get out of their offices.

still, surprised they miss out on the £1000 max fine, but of course easier to either cut more services, or just put up the council tax.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on December 30, 2018, 06:20:02 PM
Quote from: TrevL on December 30, 2018, 05:26:12 PM
As a responsible dog owner
...

:thankyousign:

T'button is AWOL.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: JBQFC on December 30, 2018, 07:56:27 PM
Quote from: TrevL on December 30, 2018, 05:26:12 PM
As a responsible dog owner, I always carry a supply of poo bags for when the inevitable happens.  However on this evenings walk, I came across two piles in the middle of the footpaths. The first  was in sight of a County Council camera with sign nearby clearly stating footage would be used to prosecute, but it was still left there.

Call me stupid, but I couldn't leave it so I bagged it and took it with me.  A little further down the road, there's another lot, this time it's been bagged, but they've just left the bag in the middle of the pavement.  Again I picked it up for proper disposal.

What is it with these people?  Don't they think the rules apply to them?  or are they just selfish and inconsiderate?
My feelings are if they're not prepared to take the responsbility of owning a dog, they shouldn't be owning a dog.
I wonder how they would feel if someone posted the contents of their dog's alimentary canal through their letterbox, not happy I'm guessing?

Sorry, Rant over!

round our way they just tie the bags to the nearest tree when the bin is closer
drive me mad
John
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on December 30, 2018, 08:22:34 PM
On the subject of responsible dog owners a friend of mine is one and I bumped in to them the other day when they were out walking their dog and had, indeed, done the right thing. Trouble is they are very expressive with their hands whilst talking and that bag of poo was swinging very close to yours truly!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on December 30, 2018, 08:36:24 PM
Last winter my wife and I were walking along the seafront at Ingoldmells, north of Skegness. Where the wide section of the Promenade ends to the north of Ingoldmells, there is a ramp down on to the sands. These sands, like much of the coast hereabouts, are a dog-walker's favourite 'walkies' location.

The local Council have thoughtfully provided a bin attached to a concrete wall by the ramp for dog-pooh bags.

On this occasion it was full. Very, very full.

So full that responsible  :no: dog owners felt it necessary to place their full bags underneath the bursting bin. There were a fair few of these.

In our estimation, and excluding those in the bin itself, there must have been in excess of 100 bags of pooh piled against the wall! :o

Now I know it could be argued that the Council should either supply more, or bigger bins, or empty them in tune with usage, but honestly, what on Earth is wrong with these people?

A week later, they were still there. Well, actually I couldn't see the ones we'd seen before, as they were buried under another load! :veryangry:

At least they hadn't tied them to bushes and trees, a practise I have frequently come across on my walks in this fair smelly land.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 30, 2018, 09:01:52 PM
harking back to the drone posts, it appears , depending upon whether you believe either the chief constable, or a chief superintendent, that there may either, (a) not have been any drones or (b) they may have been police drones, which one assumes are of no danger to aircraft. :'(

oh, and still no nearer catching any scrotes, if they exist, or indeed much of an apology to the totally innocent couple arrested, and publicly named, in an attempt to prove plod had actually done anything.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 30, 2018, 10:14:50 PM
I really don't feel I should comment about dog owners and their pets as I have always had cats and, as we cat owners know, they do their business where best they like to/can cover it up. As my garden is all slabs with absolutely no earth/grass then I guess my neighbours cop for it :-[ Mind you, next door has a yappy little thing so I hope Hookey heads his way >:D

On another note my youngest sister wanted a Cheshire Oaks centre voucher for Christmas so Mum, eldest sister and I clubbed together and got a decent value one. I got an e mail from her Thursday telling me she went to Cheshire Oaks on the Wednesday but couldn't spend it as the voucher hadn't been activated. I can imagine some of the names she called me! I rang Customer Service who told me the voucher did not require activating, it was a fault their end and they were sorry for the confusion. I told the lady that would not go down well with someone who had made a 70 mile round trip and that, having obtained her name, I would pass it on to my sister in readiness for the next time she makes the trip. FIGHT!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on December 31, 2018, 11:27:46 PM
Quote from: TrevL on December 30, 2018, 05:26:12 PM
As a responsible dog owner, I always carry a supply of poo bags for when the inevitable happens.  However on this evenings walk, I came across two piles in the middle of the footpaths. The first  was in sight of a County Council camera with sign nearby clearly stating footage would be used to prosecute, but it was still left there.

Call me stupid, but I couldn't leave it so I bagged it and took it with me.  A little further down the road, there's another lot, this time it's been bagged, but they've just left the bag in the middle of the pavement.  Again I picked it up for proper disposal.

What is it with these people?  Don't they think the rules apply to them?  or are they just selfish and inconsiderate?
My feelings are if they're not prepared to take the responsbility of owning a dog, they shouldn't be owning a dog.
I wonder how they would feel if someone posted the contents of their dog's alimentary canal through their letterbox, not happy I'm guessing?

Sorry, Rant over!

The 'responsible dog owners' round our way do bag up their dogs' 'doings' (as my Grandfather used to call it) and leave them out of the way of other pavement users...

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Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 01, 2019, 11:11:21 AM
and like a fair few round here, leave the bags for the dog poo fairy to collect and bin  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Madann01 on January 03, 2019, 07:12:32 PM
Continued from Unhappy thread.

Is there no quality control systems in place before these locos go on sale, I assume that they are tested before they leve the factory (or are they?) The cost of these locos is becoming increasingly unaffordable considering most electronic items come down in price especially when manufactured somewhere in the far east, you can now buy a fridge or a washing machine for less money than a DCC loco and they have much more electronic wizzardry than a n gauge Loco. I understand that we have to pay for the toolling and the styling But is it too much to hope that we could have more reliability from what is only a simple electric motor. :censored:


Chill pills beginning to work now so signing off :NGF:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 17, 2019, 12:53:32 PM
I had cause to ring HMRC in early December as I'd been made to overpay tax in a big way by my pension company (although I understood why they had to do that).
HMRC sent me some forms which were duly filled in, sent back by signed for mail and duly collected by HMRC from Wolverhampton DO on 13.12.18.
Having heard nothing I rang them this morning and, when I finally got through to what I think was a human being, I was told that, yes, a payment of over £2000 was due to me, that it was with the 'Pending' department and would be actioned by the 7th February. When I told the bloke I was so pleased they were getting interest on my money he told me there was no need for me to be sarcastic and that he was doing his best to help me with the means at his disposal. In my best apologetic voice I told him I was so sorry he was the face of HMRC on the phone today but if he wanted to put me through to his manager or someone more senior I'd quite happily have a go at them instead.
Grrrrrr :veryangry:
Probably all I have accomplished is to be placed on the HMRC  :poop: list but it's a lot of money to a retiree on small pensions.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on January 17, 2019, 01:15:42 PM
Not only have you been placed on the  :poop: list, you have been placed at the bottom, (sorry), of the list!  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: port perran on January 17, 2019, 01:24:45 PM
And they will then send you a cheque (2nd class) which then takes 5 working days to clear.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 17, 2019, 01:43:03 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on January 17, 2019, 12:53:32 PM
I had cause to ring HMRC in early December as I'd been made to overpay tax in a big way by my pension company (although I understood why they had to do that).
HMRC sent me some forms which were duly filled in, sent back by signed for mail and duly collected by HMRC from Wolverhampton DO on 13.12.18.
Having heard nothing I rang them this morning and, when I finally got through to what I think was a human being, I was told that, yes, a payment of over £2000 was due to me, that it was with the 'Pending' department and would be actioned by the 7th February. When I told the bloke I was so pleased they were getting interest on my money he told me there was no need for me to be sarcastic and that he was doing his best to help me with the means at his disposal. In my best apologetic voice I told him I was so sorry he was the face of HMRC on the phone today but if he wanted to put me through to his manager or someone more senior I'd quite happily have a go at them instead.
Grrrrrr :veryangry:
Probably all I have accomplished is to be placed on the HMRC  :poop: list but it's a lot of money to a retiree on small pensions.

Honest sympathy sir and an honest nomination for a medal for ONLY being accused of being "sarcastic".

I think few would have blamed you if you have the chap both barrels but alas, even I have learnt long ago that such behaviour only provides a short term relief and most likely more grief in the long one.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: weave on January 17, 2019, 03:25:24 PM
Hi NPN,

My sympathies too. Both myself and my wife have problems with THEM.

Decorum prevents me saying what I think the RC stands for.

Hope it all gets sorted.

Life's a Beach (with an itch).

Cheers weave  :beers:


Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on January 17, 2019, 04:45:23 PM
 :veryangry:

Just spent two hours sorting out yet another case of Card Fraud involving our joint MasterCards. This is the fourth time one or other of our cards has been used fraudulently, and each time of course we get any stolen amounts credited back and the cards get replaced.

This time some nice person  :no: used 5 different iTunes accounts to 'test' the details they had obtained about my card to buy 5 separate music downloads of 99p each. They did this just before Christmas, then another zero amount action with another company at the end of the year. At least this time they didn't buy airline tickets, holidays, or expensive items like on previous occasions.

The maddening thing is that we are both extremely fastidious about financial and personal security, so getting card details taken by criminals is a mystery.
I've spoken at length each time to the MasterCard fraud teams, and they tell me it is practically impossible for us to prevent it happening, and finding out the 'how' and 'why us' is pointless, as even they cant give a definitive answer. All they can say is that it pays to be fastidious, as we most certainly are, and to closely monitor the account and notify anything that appears suspicious involving a transaction to them as soon as possible. Happily we have always done a regular monthly accounting of all our monies, and statements we receive are immediately checked over as a matter of routine.

Okay, so we don't lose financially in the long run - except that somewhere along the line all these fraudulent uses have to be paid for by us all in some way - but I just lost the middle of my day to calling the card issuers (twice) and Apple to sort this out, and now have to wait, probably until next Tuesday or maybe later, for the replacement cards to be delivered. Thankfully we both can use other cards, debit or credit, to cover any transactions in the interim, but all in all it still leaves a bad taste in the mouth and is a right royal pain in the how's-your-father.

Okay, rant over. Until the next time some  :censored: uses my card as a source for their pleasures. :veryangry:

Addendum: we have come up with one way to prevent this kind of problem bothering us again. Cancel all our credit cards! :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on January 17, 2019, 04:54:05 PM
Quote from: port perran on January 17, 2019, 01:24:45 PM
And they will then send you a cheque (2nd class) which then takes 5 working days to clear.

That's if the wonderful Royal Mail don't lose it. :doh:

Sorry Mick. I'm sure it'll arrive okay, and then you'll have the pleasure of eating again. :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: port perran on January 17, 2019, 05:08:33 PM
What is annoying is that if you are late paying they charge you interest.
I had a long protracted argument with HMRC when I retired (I was self lemployed).
It's too complicated to go through in detail here but quickly it related to payments on account. I wanted to spread my final tax payment over two instalments (July and January) as I would have done whilst still working.
I chose to complete my final years return early (in April rather than wait tilll December as I usually would).
That triggered them to demand my final payment in the July rather than 50% in July and 50% the following January.
Even the several people I spoke to at HMRC admitted that it was unfair and seemed  to be a glitch in the system.  If I had delayed my return till August then I would have been able to pay in 2 instalments.
Needless to say, however, I had to pay up so I lost out on 6 months interest on the money I could have saved.
Grrrrr.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 17, 2019, 09:40:00 PM
HMRC seem to be the only people who, if you are in the wrong, you have to pay and, if they are in the wrong, you still have to pay ::) I spent years in Customer Service and never shied away from people on the blower etc getting angry, sarcastic, abusive etc. If you can't stand the heat then get out of the kitchen.

Mike's @daffy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5634) tale is very distressing in that there seems no way of preventing it all happening again. I've only ever had my credit card fraudulently used once and that was after some tea leaf walked through the company gatehouse, past reception, through the factory, into the offices and stole my wallet from my jacket (Security. What Security??). :unimpressed:
NatWest bank tried to wriggle out of any responsibility, stating I must have been complicit, and it took months before everything was sorted in my favour. :veryangry2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on January 17, 2019, 10:32:21 PM
Thankfully the systems the Credit Card companies employ these days are very good at spotting fraud. The first three times our cards were used by perps it was them that spotted it and contacted us.

As for High Street Banks (if they still have a High Street Bank where you live) , I learnt my lesson at a young age. I was a student, recently married and all but broke, living in Birmingham. Lloyds was my Bank, and I had a zero overdraft facility. One day, my student grant (they used to pay us to go to Uni in those days - well, sort of) was a couple of days late going in to the account, due to a clerical error of the grant issuers. Our account went £27.00 overdrawn.
I got a letter within two days asking me and my wife, with no details given as to the why, to call in at the branch in New Street.

Innocently and unknowingly we entered the Manager's office. He locked the door! We were then subjected to a tirade about financial carelessness, foolhardiness, and theft - yes, he used that word - despite the fact that between the letter being sent and us attending, the grant had been paid in, and my wife's pay had been paid in too by her employers, either of which easily cleared the overdraft.
Protestations from us were summarily and angrily dismissed, and we were left feeling like criminals, and convinced the guy was a moron.

But, thanks to that Bank Manager, I learned my lesson about banks, bankers, and banking.

Not the one he probably thought he'd taught. ;)

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on January 18, 2019, 09:56:07 AM
I've twice had a halifax card diverted, the second time IIRC to a  Cafe in  Leytonstone. Both times the first thing I knew about it was when My card was refused at a shop.
On both occasions they told me I had changed my details to the new address online. To which I replied I don't have online accounting...
After which they shut up and very rapidly refunded the money. Personally I believe it was an inside job.

PS.. I still don't have online accounting, however it is getting very difficult with all these branches closing, there is one branch I can still use 10 miles away on my way home from work, if that closes it will have to be a special 50 mile round trip to find a branch in Norwich. (and they've closed most of them too..)

PPS I never use my bank account card online...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on January 18, 2019, 04:15:21 PM
look for the  common  denominator, were do you use that particular card. local garage, restruant, model shop? if its been cloned 4
times your either very unlucky or some were your using the card  aimt to be trusted
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on January 18, 2019, 05:15:10 PM
Quote from: themadhippy on January 18, 2019, 04:15:21 PM
look for the  common  denominator, were do you use that particular card. local garage, restruant, model shop? if its been cloned 4
times your either very unlucky or some were your using the card  aimt to be trusted

I'm afraid it is just not that simple. Both my wife and I - the only card holders - have done checks like you suggest, as of course have the MasterCard fraud team.
As they have pointed out in great detail to my many questions, identifying the origin is, in the vast majority of cases, impossible. Was it the person behind you with an iPhone snapping pics of your card (yes, it happens); was the transaction done on a computer with a virus; was the data held by the company you bought from hacked; did an employee nefariously copy data during a telephone transaction and use it themselves or pass it, for a fee, to others; was a scanner being used to capture card details; was a fake or modified card reader used;  or other methods MasterCard said they are aware of but would not elaborate on.

Unfortunately, using Credit Cards is a part of life now, and to know beforehand whether a sales point is one you can trust absolutely is like knowing the Lotto Jackpot Numbers before they are drawn. We will check out a seller, but just because we might trust, say, Tesco, does that mean we can trust everyone who works for them, or who is in the shop when we are? Of course not.

As to being unlucky, not according to MasterCard fraud team I've spoken with on numerous occasions. Card fraud is rife, and statistically, we are no more or less unlucky than the average it seems.

And of course once a fraud is detected, either by the Card companies or by we the unfortunate victims, when such as MasterCard act on that fraud, we get the fraudulent transactions recredited, but, we will never know what actions the card companies then take to identify the fraudsters and recover the losses. And action, they assure me, they do take.

But the good news is that if a fraudster gets hold of your details, though it might be damned inconvenient and a right pain, the system is on your side.
I still have questions for MasterCard, like what would happen if I was on holiday abroad and they had to block my card, but all in all I'm satisfied that my wife and I do all we possibly can to stay secure.

But I'll still get  :veryangry: and shout at the  :censored: and  :censored: who steal my details next time.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on January 19, 2019, 11:50:52 AM
I had my card blocked by the credit card company because I bought a ticket from Norwegian Airlines. I happened to be working in Norway at the time, a fact that they could have seen from other receipts. Took me 4 days to get it reinstated. The next day they blocked it again because I booked a taxi in Oslo. There is just no telling some folks.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on January 19, 2019, 09:00:24 PM
My mother's bank card was blocked on a visit to me in Italy.  My sister was with us and phoned the bank to ask why, they explained and so did she. The Banks response was we can only talk to her (Mum) on the phone number that we hold a record for.  Her home number in the UK !!
Mum did what Mums do, "Don't go making a fuss".  :)    :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on January 19, 2019, 09:50:51 PM
My local station has gone over to phone payment for the car park. There is a machine on the down side, but it has been oos for a long while after some numpty reversed into it...

My bank proceeded to block both my cards when I tried to pay over phone for a day's parking. Fortunately they sent me texts to confirm the attempted transactions and when I replied in the affirmative I was then able to use one of them to pay. What I would have done if I had to get on the train and still not be able to pay I still don't know.

Of course, the staff at the bank branch got the sharp edge of my tongue next time I had cause to enter there...  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on January 29, 2019, 06:01:06 PM
Do you sometimes feel that you are being treated as a ping-pong ball in a game of 'Find the responsible authority'?

Just over a week ago a neighbour a few doors away decided to clear up his back garden (I use the term in its loosest sense), as the next house to his had been sold and contractors had just removed the boundary line of tall conifers, revealing the mess behind them. A corrugated lean-to was first to come down, then he turned his attention to the little grey shed next to it. As hammer and brute force were his favourite tools, he began by smashing holes in the back of it.

Now as the son of a former Chief Environmental Health Officer for a Local Council, I know asbestos sheeting and corrugated roofing when I see it. But telling this particular guy that asbestos is dangerous and that he should 'follow the rules' would be a good way to get GBH of the ear, so I decided to refer the matter to........ :hmmm:

Which is where the fun started. :veryangry:

Health and Safety Executive (HSE) website says I should report it to the Local Council Environmental Health Dept, so I telephone, give copious details and leave it in their capable hands, and they have marked it as 'Urgent'. Yesterday they call me back, as despite my giving a full location description - it's a distinctive house on a road junction in a small village - they needed the proper postal address. So I happily ascertain this and tell them. Luckily the guy has not continued in his destruction so the shed still stands.
This afternoon I get another call: "It's not us, you need the HSE". :censored:
I question this but I'm told that's the case, so I go back on to the HSE website where it tells me that it needs to be reported to ........ my Local Council Environmental Health Dept!  "At least it's raining at the moment so that will help", says the nice lady who had called me. :no:

So I try to find clarity via the Environmental Agency Hotline (found on their .gov.uk webpages) and the nice lady there tells me it's the responsibility of the HSE, or maybe it's the Local Council Environmental Health Dept.  :headbutt:

Meanwhile, a little asbestos shed awaits destruction in the garden up the road, where two little children often play. And just outside the house is where the School buses collect and drop off their charges. And across the road lives a guy with a serious lung condition. And down the road a-ways lives Yours Truly, with his carefully managed Asthma - and a feeling that reporting environmental and health hazards is hazardous in itself! :(

Ah well, I'll call the Council again tomorrow. Who knows, I might be successful in wasting more time playing ping-pong. :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on January 29, 2019, 06:25:03 PM
You could always send each and every department an email explaining how nobody seems to know what each department is responsible for and add that a copy of the email has also gone to the local/national papers.  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on January 29, 2019, 06:32:53 PM
 :D  :D

Nice idea David. It might come to that sometime tomorrow. ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 29, 2019, 07:29:58 PM
I am really p****d off today.
not been a good few days, SWMBO not been good, washing machine decided to dump heavens knows how many litres of water on floor before grinding to a halt..

ok, I can manage SWMBO's problems, washing machine replaced today, but also been dealing with a forum member who is after, let us say, certain items, but who changes his list during negotiations, then doesn't bother to answer his PMs although he is on line and posting.

I've brought in and searched stock boxes to see if I can HELP him, replied to his PMs, but he can't be ******* bothered to reply.

any surprise that the other side of me says " sod him, delete his PMs, and let him either go without / pay full price / pay fleabay price ?

all it needed was a civil, 'got your pm, sorry but busy, will reply when I can'

but no, just  :censored: ignore me.

aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: outofgauge on January 29, 2019, 08:17:52 PM
Quote from: class37025 on January 29, 2019, 07:29:58 PM
I am really p****d off today.
not been a good few days, SWMBO not been good, washing machine decided to dump heavens knows how many litres of water on floor before grinding to a halt..

ok, I can manage SWMBO's problems, washing machine replaced today, but also been dealing with a forum member who is after, let us say, certain items, but who changes his list during negotiations, then doesn't bother to answer his PMs although he is on line and posting.

I've brought in and searched stock boxes to see if I can HELP him, replied to his PMs, but he can't be ******* bothered to reply.

any surprise that the other side of me says " sod him, delete his PMs, and let him either go without / pay full price / pay fleabay price ?

all it needed was a civil, 'got your pm, sorry but busy, will reply when I can'

but no, just  :censored: ignore me.

aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh !

Easy answer that one -ultimatum time -one last PM--no answer -got lost, bye ,move on !!! You probs get the same if you sell to hattons or kjb without any hassles ,stress or gnashing of teeth . Take a chill pill dude  -increase you lifespan and treat the Mrs to summat nice -works twofold -one shows  you still care and two you may get away with the next illicit purchase !!! :laugh3:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: outofgauge on January 29, 2019, 08:35:57 PM
Anyway while I'm on and now fizzling lol -been on hattons website perusing as normal -pre owned first ( bargains aplenty recently  :laugh3: anyhow -still sorting stuff for my next project ( England this time ) and my love of container trains , freight etc -quick nosey in the farish pre-orders and BANG -Ive got quite a few Malcom logistics containers plus the relevant trolley -paid around £30 for a pair -hell no more -expected price £72 !!! My God were is it gonna end ??? Thought they'd gone mad when i spotted locos at over £120 . How do they expect people to get going in the hobby ?? It will end in tears -and they wont be mine !!!
:sorrysign:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on January 30, 2019, 07:19:17 AM
Quote from: daffy on January 29, 2019, 06:01:06 PM
Meanwhile, a little asbestos shed awaits destruction in the garden up the road, where two little children often play. And just outside the house is where the School buses collect and drop off their charges. And across the road lives a guy with a serious lung condition. And down the road a-ways lives Yours Truly, with his carefully managed Asthma - and a feeling that reporting environmental and health hazards is hazardous in itself! :(

Ah well, I'll call the Council again tomorrow. Who knows, I might be successful in wasting more time playing ping-pong. :'(

Have you thought about contacting your local councillor(s)? And or the local newspaper? Who might love an opportunity for a photo opportunity of various potential asbestos victims (esp. kiddie) pretending to be suffering wheezy lung problems pointing angrily in the direction of said shed.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 08, 2019, 12:45:44 PM
Some bloody tea leaf has nicked the ornament and hanging bracket from front the wall of my bungalow. If they'd walked round the back (no gates) they could have had the 2nd one for the pair.
The screws were well rusted so they were probably at it a while, and have left a nice big hole in the mortar :veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on February 08, 2019, 12:54:23 PM
My sympathies Mick.  :veryangry:

Did they unscrew it or just rip it off the wall?

I suggest you put the other one up at the front so they can try to nick that too, though my suggestion would include you running a live mains electricity wire to the bracket to ..... er..... surprise them. >:D.   ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on February 08, 2019, 12:55:23 PM
Have you informed Police 5 Mick ?

If I were you I'd bring the garden gnomes indoors just in case.

Best regards,


Joe
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: port perran on February 08, 2019, 12:57:02 PM
I know hat I'd like to do with little toerags that do that sort of thing but it's not something that can be put on here.
Such a shame, and probably worth very little to them.
Grrrr :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on February 08, 2019, 01:04:40 PM
For me the profile of the culprit is more mature.

Little toerags normally go for stuff that can finance their cigarettes etc.

Are there any old folks bungalows near you that might be harbouring an"old lag" ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Portpatrick on February 08, 2019, 02:32:10 PM
Years ago my parents had a couple  of small trees stolen.   They were in large heavy concrete pots
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 08, 2019, 02:37:00 PM
Yeah, don't worry, it happens here too. Mrs Bealman awoke one morning to find one of her hanging baskets empty. Ceramic basket still attached to wall, Just no plant!  :confused1:

And no, it wasn't weed  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on February 08, 2019, 02:53:27 PM
It's amazing the things people do on their way home from the pub.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 08, 2019, 03:54:01 PM
They should get the bus like me  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 08, 2019, 04:31:16 PM
Quote from: joe cassidy on February 08, 2019, 01:04:40 PM

Are there any old folks bungalows near you that might be harbouring an"old lag" ?

You mean other than mine? :laugh:

OK - the item concerned was only a fake ball of plastic foliage with small white flowers which cost me about £15 and a new frame would be about a tenner but that's not really the point.
The disturbing thing is I only noticed this morning and haven't a scooby doo when I last saw it!  ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 08, 2019, 06:01:35 PM
Probably happened before Christmas  ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on February 08, 2019, 06:08:26 PM
Quote from: Bealman on February 08, 2019, 06:01:35 PM
Probably happened before Christmas  ;D

2015!  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on February 09, 2019, 06:38:46 PM
Many, many moons ago, a pal of mine offered me a lift in his Morry 1000 traveller. I noticed something large and heavy in the back. On enquiring what it was, I discovered that he and a few mates had been a bit rowdy in a pub garden. They were asked to leave, so they nicked an ornamental garden in a large concrete urn. On the way back, we passed said pub and with a great deal of effort managed to get it out of the car and left it in the front garden of the pub.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on February 14, 2019, 07:35:06 PM
yet again this evening SWMBO tried to turn on the TV to watch some mindless soap, to be greeted by, lets describe as, a shredded screen.

yet again retuned, managed to get BBC, but of course she wanted ITV ... :censored:

why is it, that while the government is so quick to take our money for licences, they couldn't give a flying  :censored: as to whether or not we can get what we pay for ?  :veryangry:

as usual, of course, it seems to be my fault  :'(

and of course, you can't not pay the licence fee and just watch DVDs, because 'you are capable of watching tv programs !'

not most of the time thanks to you interference in what used to work well.

where is that bottle of scottish water, I'm heading to the shed !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on February 14, 2019, 08:18:07 PM
Quoteyou can't not pay the licence fee and just watch DVDs, because 'you are capable of watching tv programs !'

Disconect and cut  the aerial cable,detune all the channels and you dont need a license as your no longer capable ,the "capable of" clause  came in  if you had a black and white tv  and  video recorder that was capable of receiving colour transmissions,you still needed a colour licence,not black and white . Strangely you don't need a tv license to watch recordings made by others,as long as there licensed,but then your getting into copyright territory 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NScaleNotes on February 14, 2019, 08:22:18 PM
Quote from: class37025 on February 14, 2019, 07:35:06 PM

and of course, you can't not pay the licence fee and just watch DVDs, because 'you are capable of watching tv programs !'


Not if you've just got a computer monitor and a DVD player with HDMI connections and don't watch TV online ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 15, 2019, 10:14:34 AM
Every now and then when turning the TV on I get "New channels found. Please re-tune or press exit" so I re-tune (takes about 3 minutes). However.......sometimes I end up with Channel 4 Wales on my lounge TV and 'English' Channel 4 on my bedroom TV - yet they are both running off the same aerial via a splitter. How does that happen please? ??? :confused1:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on February 15, 2019, 10:21:10 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on February 15, 2019, 10:14:34 AM
Every now and then when turning the TV on I get "New channels found. Please re-tune or press exit" so I re-tune (takes about 3 minutes). However.......sometimes I end up with Channel 4 Wales on my lounge TV and 'English' Channel 4 on my bedroom TV - yet they are both running off the same aerial via a splitter. How does that happen please? ??? :confused1:
I think you are situated where you are receiving a transmission  direct from Wales.
Most Aerials are now wideband to get all the channels, that now means you often receive signals from more than one transmitter. Whereas in the past aerials were narrow band and the other transmitters were not picked up so well.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 15, 2019, 10:37:09 AM
Quote from: The Q on February 15, 2019, 10:21:10 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on February 15, 2019, 10:14:34 AM
Every now and then when turning the TV on I get "New channels found. Please re-tune or press exit" so I re-tune (takes about 3 minutes). However.......sometimes I end up with Channel 4 Wales on my lounge TV and 'English' Channel 4 on my bedroom TV - yet they are both running off the same aerial via a splitter. How does that happen please? ??? :confused1:
I think you are situated where you are receiving a transmission from, direct from Wales.
Most Aerials are now wideband to get all the channels, that now means you often receive signals from more than one transmitter. Whereas in the past aerials were narrow band and the other transmitters were not picked up so well.

I can appreciate that but with one aerial and a splitter how do I end up with different channels in different rooms? That's the baffling bit for me :dunce:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NScaleNotes on February 15, 2019, 10:45:06 AM
Not an expert on this but is there any overlap in channels particularly now we also have digital broadcasts?
A bit like the 'channels' on a wireless computer network can overlap?

Perhaps if the tuners in the two separate TVs are slightly different or one is digital and one is analogue then one TV can pick up one station and the other picks up the other where the channels overlap.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on February 15, 2019, 11:00:21 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on February 15, 2019, 10:37:09 AM
Quote from: The Q on February 15, 2019, 10:21:10 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on February 15, 2019, 10:14:34 AM
Every now and then when turning the TV on I get "New channels found. Please re-tune or press exit" so I re-tune (takes about 3 minutes). However.......sometimes I end up with Channel 4 Wales on my lounge TV and 'English' Channel 4 on my bedroom TV - yet they are both running off the same aerial via a splitter. How does that happen please? ??? :confused1:
I think you are situated where you are receiving a transmission from, direct from Wales.
Most Aerials are now wideband to get all the channels, that now means you often receive signals from more than one transmitter. Whereas in the past aerials were narrow band and the other transmitters were not picked up so well.

I can appreciate that but with one aerial and a splitter how do I end up with different channels in different rooms? That's the baffling bit for me :dunce:
Cable lengths and splitters influence the strength of the signals that are passed on to the TV to receive.

One of the two transmitters will be at a higher frequency range in the band than the other.
As a guess I'd say one of your two lines has a higher impedance at higher frequencies than the other.  So the TVs are assuming which ever is the stronger signal they receive is the local one. It's even possible the frequency response of the TVs receiver could be different, so also affecting the selection..
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 15, 2019, 11:03:06 AM
Thanks. Even to this duffer that makes sense. This 'signal' stuff is just another black art to me, and seeing some of the  :poop: in the TV guide convinces me 'tis the Devil's work
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on February 15, 2019, 11:08:49 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on February 15, 2019, 11:03:06 AM
Thanks. Even to this duffer that makes sense. This 'signal' stuff is just another black art to me, and seeing some of the  :poop: in the TV guide convinces me 'tis the Devil's work

In the days when manual tuning was needed I've spent many hours by a radio or radar receiver tuning away..

On one system I had to get two gunn oscillators, two Specturm analysers, and a radar receiver / transmitter , all on tune at the same time, sometimes it would take half a day, others ten minutes..
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 15, 2019, 11:21:58 AM
Quote from: The Q on February 15, 2019, 11:08:49 AM

On one system I had to get two gunn oscillators, two Specturm analysers, and a radar receiver / transmitter , all on tune at the same time, sometimes it would take half a day, others ten minutes..

That's fused the brain cell.
Now I shall have to lie down in a darkened room for the rest of the day :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on February 15, 2019, 12:09:30 PM
sounds like a good plan  :thumbsup:
don't forget to take your [scottish] medicine first  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 15, 2019, 01:10:58 PM
Quote from: class37025 on February 15, 2019, 12:09:30 PM
sounds like a good plan  :thumbsup:
don't forget to take your [scottish] medicine first  :D

Sorry, but I prefer the one with the 'e' i.e. [irish] medicine :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on February 15, 2019, 01:38:48 PM
Well, I'll have the Scottish One then, "Highland park Viking Honour"..
That'll be after the visit to the MRC tonight...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on February 15, 2019, 02:19:08 PM
left my bottle up in the shed last night  ;D
got up this morning to find a frost, so must remember to pop up the shed this evening and make sure there is no risk of the bottle cracking if there's another frost tonight  ;)
:beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 15, 2019, 03:22:51 PM
I always thought strong alcohol wasn't supposed to freeze at low negative temperatures, but there again I wouldn't risk a bottle of Glenfiddich to find out....  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on February 15, 2019, 03:51:38 PM
exactly, you can never be tooooooooo careful  :smiley-laughing:

of course, could be a fault in the bottle, at least that's my excuse, and SWMBO hasn't argued about it yet .............
mind you, she may not have heard me  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MinZaPint on February 19, 2019, 11:03:08 AM
Just for Mick as you can see by the contents my favourite Irish tipple!

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/74/523-190219103150.jpeg)

and on the subject of this thread on our recent holiday we had a lovely room

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/74/523-190219105549.jpeg)

and a shared kitchen, so we went out and I got some beers, my little treasure said "I'll pop them in the fridge so you'll have a nice cold beer when we get back this evening" now this unit had too vertical doors the smaller one was the FREEZER you'd think a women would know. I had to wait for the big thaw  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 19, 2019, 11:13:42 AM
At least the thought was there.
I note the whiskey bottle is virtually empty ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on February 19, 2019, 12:22:33 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on February 19, 2019, 11:13:42 AM

I note the whiskey bottle is virtually empty ;)

In this day and age, that is called 'virtual reality'!  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NinOz on February 19, 2019, 12:35:45 PM
Quote from: Bealman on February 15, 2019, 03:22:51 PM
I always thought strong alcohol wasn't supposed to freeze at low negative temperatures, but there again I wouldn't risk a bottle of Glenfiddich to find out....  :beers:
https://www.thespruceeats.com/will-liquor-freeze-760302 (https://www.thespruceeats.com/will-liquor-freeze-760302)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 08, 2019, 06:30:28 PM
have just spent some considerable time trying to speak to DPD

why ?
why indeed, they do NOT want to talk to anyone with a problem with their "delivery" service.

finally managed to 'chat' to Faye at parcel-2-go who apparently use these idiots.

the problem ...
ordered a hoover for SWMBO from  a firm in Kent, you know the county next to Sussex

predicted delivery thurs / fri checked tracking this morning and apparently the package is in OLDHAM, then a couple of hours later it's in DURHAM :veryangry:

do these  :censored: not have a map  :veryangry:

when it was supposedly in Oldham, delivery was tomorrow, then later when in Durham delivery had slipped to tuesday  :veryangry:

DPD do not seem to want to speak to customers, so got onto parcel-2-go and finally managed to chat to an advisor.

parcel was only collected yesterday ....

no, tracking says it was collected on the 6th....

ahhh
there seems to be a problem, but it will be delivered tomorrow ...

that's funny cause DPD say tuesday

ummm I'll check
..
..
..
there was a delay, but your delivery has been upgraded to a weekend delivery from a next day delivery, and will be delivered tomorrow

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !
what is it with these firms, even when you copy / paste the info on the tracking site they still treat you like a cretin.

will it arrive tomorrow ?

let me check my crystal ball and get back to you  :help:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 09, 2019, 12:13:07 PM
update ...
surprise surprise, e-mail from DPD this morning, they've got my parcel in Burgess Hill depot  :claphappy:

but due to a local issue  ??? it will be delivered monday. :hmmm:

back to parcel-2-go, who cannot help, or explain what is going on but say it will be delivered monday.

parcel was a next day delivery, due 8th ie friday.

tracking on DPD shows the route taken

Date & Time   Location   Description
09 Mar 2019 09:28   Burgess Hill   There's a delay with your parcel and it's being held in our DPD Burgess Hill depot
09 Mar 2019 03:42   Burgess Hill   Your parcel has arrived at our Burgess Hill depot
09 Mar 2019 03:42   Burgess Hill   Your parcel has arrived at our Burgess Hill depot
09 Mar 2019 03:03   Burgess Hill   Your parcel has arrived at our Burgess Hill depot
08 Mar 2019 22:43   Hub 4 - Hinckley   We have your parcel, and it's on its way to our Burgess Hill depot
08 Mar 2019 11:43   Durham   There's a delay with your parcel and we've now sorted it
08 Mar 2019 07:05   Durham   Your parcel has arrived at our Durham depot
08 Mar 2019 07:05   Durham   There's a delay with your parcel and we've now sorted it
08 Mar 2019 00:43   Hub 3 - Bham   We have your parcel, and it's on its way to our Burgess Hill depot
07 Mar 2019 09:28   Dartford   We have your parcel and it's on its way
06 Mar 2019 16:37   DPD Pickup Shop   Your parcel has been dropped off at a DPD Pickup Shop
06 Mar 2019 13:37   Parcel2go.com   We've received your order details, but have not yet received your parcel

looks like a journey of around 679 miles when Dartford is 51.7 miles away, distances from AA route planner.

next day delivery now slipped to 4 day delivery.

where is that Scottish water  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on March 09, 2019, 12:24:11 PM
Morons!
I'm guessing you paid extra for "Next Day", therefore you should be due at least four times that amount by way of compensation.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 09, 2019, 01:36:48 PM
Quote from: TrevL on March 09, 2019, 12:24:11 PM
Morons!
I'm guessing you paid extra for "Next Day", therefore you should be due at least four times that amount by way of compensation.

But the parcel has travelled 13.13 times the mileage it needed to so that's the figure to use in a claim, although DPD might charge for the 'scenic route' :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 09, 2019, 02:07:45 PM
Quote from: TrevL on March 09, 2019, 12:24:11 PM
Morons!
I'm guessing you paid extra for "Next Day", therefore you should be due at least four times that amount by way of compensation.

actually, no.
the seller paid [free p&p] so he's the one out of pocket, but I have messaged him and explained the situation, so I'd guess it is up to him to claim.

hope DPD don't claim by the mile  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 11, 2019, 03:20:46 PM
update....
a lovely guy by the name of Jamie delivered my parcel just after 14:00 today, as per the website;  :thumbsup:

what a shame the company DPD couldn't be bothered to honour ..
[1] next day delivery ie Friday
[2] upgraded delivery to saturday
and
[3] don't seen to have a map of the uk / employ sorters who can read / give a d**n about their customers

result ....
I will NEVER order from anyone who uses Parcel-2-go [who fob off their customers] or DPD who do not seem to either deliver what is paid for, or give a t**s for their customers

label on parcel clearly states delivery 08th, ie Friday, but due to their sheer incompetence delivered on the 11th, regardless of supposed upgrade to saturday 09th.

have spoken to the seller and apparently not the only customer with this problem, now changing to Parcel Force.

BY THE WAY, FOUND THE NUMBER FOR DPD CUSTOMER SERVICES .... CALLS AT £6.00 PER MINUTE  :censored:

so to me this says don't f*****g  phone us with your problems, we don't want to know  :veryangry:

what a way to run a so-called business  :help:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on March 11, 2019, 03:31:05 PM
It is not just DPD UK that are (insert own derogatory word) - they are useless over here in Ireland. Having said that, most of the courier companies in Ireland just can not be bothered delivering to my address because I am in the middle of nowhere. When ordering over t'net now, I look for companies that use Royal Mail or 'Click and Collect' from Argos. Using the latter, I can time the delivery to fit in with our 2 weekly visits to Enniskillen. Not sure how some courier companies survive.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 11, 2019, 03:35:26 PM
just spent some considerable time trying to contact DPD, but of course you can't.
they just tell you your parcel has been delivered, redirect you to 'someone who can help' which turns out to be a recording that then cuts you off. :censored:

what a load of cowboys, don't have a map of UK, don't seem to employ people who can read, don't give a toss about customer service, and presumably leave their drivers to face the flak.

where is my .50 cal rifle
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mickeyflinn on March 11, 2019, 04:07:49 PM
My wife gets flowers delivered from "Freddie's Flowers" once a fortnight (or weekly if she doesn't cancel that weeks delivery). They used to use their own vans to deliver the flowers until just before Christmas when they moved to DPD for the deliveries.
To say that they don't care is an understatement - she has had damaged flowers, crushed boxes and although it clearly states "fragile flowers" on the box, I've lost count of the number of times I have seen the courier swinging the box as he walks up the drive.
I commented once to the courier about the state of the boxes, and was told that "that's how it was at the depot when I picked it up" - but you can tell when they are "sorting" through the parcels when you hear them hitting the sides and floor of the van (and probably other fragile parcels)!!!
Also, when Freddies delivered them themselves, they used to recycle the boxes by collecting the one from the previous delivery at the same time. Now DPD deliver, the boxes have to go in our recycling as they won't take them.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on March 11, 2019, 10:26:13 PM
They're all as bad as each other. I have had UPS try to deliver a package, find no-one in and take it back to the depot - despite me paying for next day delivery and the parcel clearly being labelled "If no-one in, leave with a neighbour" on the delivery instructions and on the package - it was replacement valves for my valve amp and we had about 40 people turning up for a party that night  :censored:

Another parcel was delivered into our blue bin, but no card to say so, so the bin was emptied the following day and the parcel lost  :veryangry:

An Ebay order of a motherboard, processor, memory and cooler that I paid extra to have delivered on a Friday (specifically so I could install and configure it over the weekend), wasn't delivered 'til Tuesday by Royal Mail. Even then, it was just a card through the door, as my wife was ill and took too long to get down the stairs. I managed to go to the parcels office and they were very helpful, phoning the van driver and having him stop off on his way back and deliver while I was at home. I only realised after accepting the parcel and thanking him, why they were so helpful - the parcel clearly had a posting date of the previous Wednesday on it and was marked for "Guaranteed 48hr delivery"!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on March 11, 2019, 10:46:46 PM
Stop moaning about getting your parcels a few days late and think about our friends like George (Bealman), still in hospital, and those who are convalescing like Paul Price and the guy who has just had his detached retina fixed.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on March 11, 2019, 11:10:26 PM
While obviously health is a lot more important, it doesn't take away from the inconvenience of parcels being delivered late or wrongly, especially when people have paid extra for a specific delivery date, because that is when they need it. When it means making extra trips, taking time off work, losing pay, etc. it is even worse.

In fact, due to a combination of time off for collecting things that I shouldn't have had to in the run up to Christmas and since, taking my chronically ill wife to numerous hospital appointments, my eldest son to more hospital appointments and my youngest son to half a dozen dental hospital and dentist appointments, I have not only lost a lot of pay that I could not afford, but have now been given a week's notice of ending my contract. Maybe the extra pick-ups didn't make a difference or maybe they were the straw that broke the camel's back.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on March 12, 2019, 06:36:49 AM
Steve I agree with you that time is a precious commodity. Taking time off work to wait for people who don't turn up does make me angry.

On the subject of delayed parcels, I'm still waiting for a tee shirt I ordered from the Malta branch of the Manchester United supporters club in August  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 12, 2019, 09:58:51 AM
Quote from: joe cassidy on March 11, 2019, 10:46:46 PM
Stop moaning about getting your parcels a few days late and think about our friends like George (Bealman), still in hospital, and those who are convalescing like Paul Price and the guy who has just had his detached retina fixed.

Sorry, Joe, but I think the Angry Thread is somewhere for venting of spleens without having to take into consideration the plight of others. I'm quite sure anyone with health/personal issues would not take against anyone with a beef.
The usual forum rules regarding politics etc still apply
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on March 12, 2019, 11:13:54 AM
OK Mick - point taken.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 13, 2019, 04:18:16 PM
In town with Mother and eldest sister today and we decided to have lunch at Wetherspoons. I plumped for the simple fare of sausage, chips and beans at a reasonable £4.05. However, when I looked at the receipt back at the table, my meal had morphed into sausage, peas, mash and gravy at £6.05. I called a waitress over and she informed me although sausage, chips and beans was on the menu they didn't actually do that any more and she had arranged for me to have sausage, peas, chips and gravy - hence the £6.05 cost. I wasn't going to create too much of a scene so shrugged it off. Lo and behold. when our meals came I was given the non existent sausage, chips and beans along with £2 ???

Meanwhile, back on the 'English' subject, I do enjoy 'Holby City' so was surprised to see my recorder had not switched on as I programmed it to and roundly cursed the damned machine. I did, however, check the TV guide and 'Holby' had been bumped as a certain Parliamentary vote pushed 'Eastenders' back to the 'Holby' slot. I checked the Beeb website this morning to see what had happened and saw 'Holby City cancelled', followed by an explanation and information last night's episode could be seen next Tuesday and next Tuesday's could be seen next Wednesday.
It seems the Beeb cannot grasp it was therefore not cancelled but postponed. ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: snitchthebudgie on March 13, 2019, 04:32:18 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on March 13, 2019, 04:18:16 PM
'Holby' had been bumped as a certain Parliamentary vote pushed 'Eastenders' back to the 'Holby' slot.
At the risk of the ire of the moderators, I am surprised you could tell the difference between Holby and Parliament.   :sorrysign:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 13, 2019, 05:14:44 PM
Holby - SWMBO watches and won't miss

Parliament - no body watches, and even I couldn't miss with a Charlie G  >:D

not  a political comment, mods, a simple fact  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on March 13, 2019, 06:48:42 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on March 13, 2019, 04:18:16 PM
In town with Mother and eldest sister today and we decided to have lunch at Wetherspoons. I plumped for the simple fare of sausage, chips and beans at a reasonable £4.05. However, when I looked at the receipt back at the table, my meal had morphed into sausage, peas, mash and gravy at £6.05. I called a waitress over and she informed me although sausage, chips and beans was on the menu they didn't actually do that any more and she had arranged for me to have sausage, peas, chips and gravy - hence the £6.05 cost. I wasn't going to create too much of a scene so shrugged it off. Lo and behold. when our meals came I was given the non existent sausage, chips and beans along with £2 ???

Meanwhile, back on the 'English' subject, I do enjoy 'Holby City' so was surprised to see my recorder had not switched on as I programmed it to and roundly cursed the damned machine. I did, however, check the TV guide and 'Holby' had been bumped as a certain Parliamentary vote pushed 'Eastenders' back to the 'Holby' slot. I checked the Beeb website this morning to see what had happened and saw 'Holby City cancelled', followed by an explanation and information last night's episode could be seen next Tuesday and next Tuesday's could be seen next Wednesday.
It seems the Beeb cannot grasp it was therefore not cancelled but postponed. ::)

I was thinking that this was probably in the wrong thread, surely it should be in the 'Slightly miffed' thread...

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on March 13, 2019, 06:58:27 PM
If Louisa was a member of this forum, her comments about the cancelled, (sorry, postponed), Casualty would definitely be in the Angry thread!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on March 13, 2019, 09:25:23 PM
So, after a lengthy vote by all those MPs, Holby will be shown on Tuesday and Wednesday next week?

Is that what they meant by the 'backstop'? :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: nookfield on March 13, 2019, 10:23:47 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on March 13, 2019, 04:18:16 PM
It seems the Beeb cannot grasp it was therefore not cancelled but postponed. ::)

The Oxford English Dictionary definition of the verb 'cancel' is  "Decide or announce that (a planned event) will not take place." as Holby City did not take place it was therefore cancelled.

The BBC could also have stated that it had been rescheduled or as you state postponed.


Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 14, 2019, 10:22:36 AM
There are many terms in the O.E.D nowadays that I would never use and probably wouldn't understand. I was always taught 'cancellation' meant it was permanently gone whereas 'postponed' meant deferred to a later date. Even now, in the footie results if you see 'P-P' the reader states 'match postponed'. (Not Port Perran :no:)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on March 14, 2019, 11:22:32 AM
Quote from: nookfield on March 13, 2019, 10:23:47 PM

The Oxford English Dictionary definition of the verb 'cancel' is  "Decide or announce that (a planned event) will not take place." as Holby City did not take place it was therefore cancelled.


Okay, splitting hairs time.  >:D .  The episode will take place, only not at the time originally scheduled.

:sorrysign:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on March 14, 2019, 12:56:06 PM
 :veryangry: and  :(

One ex-British soldier to be charged over Bloody Sunday shootings (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/crime/one-ex-british-soldier-to-be-charged-over-bloody-sunday-shootings/ar-BBUL9lk?ocid=spartanntp)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 14, 2019, 01:45:18 PM
while, of course, our politicians gave all the IRA b******s a free pardon years ago.

they blow up RUC guys, and their families, blow up pubs, shops, offices, hotels etc, ambush troops, while of course hiding behind a screen of women and kids, and get away scot free.

however, be a squaddie in a riot situation, fired on by snipers and return fire, and you'll be pilloried.

AIN'T BRITISH JUSTICE GREAT  :censored:

did my time in NI, nothing but respect for the squaddies, RUC and Ulster TA lads, and their families.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 14, 2019, 02:14:03 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-47540271 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-47540271)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Fardap on March 14, 2019, 02:51:08 PM
There should have been an equal amnesty when the pardons and the agreement not to pursue terrorist convictions of the IRA for the Soldiers that all served, what loon would accept amnesty of prosecution on one side?

:censored: me off!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 14, 2019, 03:04:08 PM
Quote from: Fardap on March 14, 2019, 02:51:08 PM
There should have been an equal amnesty when the pardons and the agreement not to pursue terrorist convictions of the IRA for the Soldiers that all served, what loon would accept amnesty of prosecution on one side?

:censored: me off!

who'd risk joining the forces now ? you can really rely on them to support you, can't you ?

errrr

:thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on March 14, 2019, 08:13:30 PM
[mod]I understand the feeling on this subject but can I please gently remind forum members of the forum rules on political comments, thank you[/mod]

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 14, 2019, 08:29:03 PM
apologies, Caz  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on March 14, 2019, 09:44:01 PM
Quote from: Caz on March 14, 2019, 08:13:30 PM
I understand the feeling on this subject but can I please gently remind forum members of the forum rules on political comments, thank you

I don't think this portion of the thread should be allowed to continue, as you say political comments are not welcome on this forum and feelings will run high amongst members from both sides of the argument.
Might I suggest, rather than close the Angry thread, members self moderate and take up their respective sides of the argument with the powers that be.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: weave on March 14, 2019, 11:17:00 PM
Lawrence,

It hadn't continued, except you (and now me) continuing it. Caz warned, class 37025 apologised. What's the problem?

weave.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on March 15, 2019, 08:41:59 AM
Quote from: Lawrence on March 14, 2019, 09:44:01 PM
Quote from: Caz on March 14, 2019, 08:13:30 PM
I understand the feeling on this subject but can I please gently remind forum members of the forum rules on political comments, thank you

I don't think this portion of the thread should be allowed to continue, as you say political comments are not welcome on this forum and feelings will run high amongst members from both sides of the argument.
Might I suggest, rather than close the Angry thread, members self moderate and take up their respective sides of the argument with the powers that be.

Exactly the reason for my moderator comment - if necessary we can delete the items but would prefer our members to self moderate on this friendly forum.  If any more political posts appear they will be deleted.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on March 15, 2019, 09:10:01 AM
 :veryangry: and  :(

:heart: Christchurch (https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/new-zealand-shooting-multiple-casualties-after-shooting-at-mosque-a4092346.html)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 15, 2019, 10:16:51 AM
back to safer ground, hopefully.

having finally received SWMBO's hoover, after a 679 mile tour of the North of England, from a sender 51 miles away [see previous tirade against Parcel-2-Go and DPD] our daughter decided she wanted one as well, so against my better judgement I placed the order.

again, dropped off at the DPD collection point the same day as order placed, 12th, then sat there till the 14th before being collected.
as previously sender had paid for next day delivery, which should have been the 14th.

queried with P2G last night as to why parcel had sat there for two days and was told 'high winds' had delayed the pickup [hopefully the same winds blew the leaves of the rails  :no:] and advised that delivery would be today.

just checked and    :o  it has been to Birmingham hub from Dartford and back to Burgess hill, arr at 06:03 this morning, and will be delivered between 12:25 and 13:25 today.

so perhaps not the happy thread, but maybe not the angry thread, but as suggested by another member, maybe the slightly miffed thread  :)

update.....

arrived at 12:35 safe and sound, so happy SWMBO, happy daughter ....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on March 15, 2019, 10:32:55 AM
Quote from: class37025 on March 15, 2019, 10:16:51 AM
back to safer ground, hopefully.

having finally received SWMBO's hoover, after a 679 mile tour of the North of England, from a sender 51 miles away [see previous tirade against Parcel-2-Go and DPD] our daughter decided she wanted one as well, so against my better judgement I placed the order.

again, dropped off at the DPD collection point the same day as order placed, 12th, then sat there till the 14th before being collected.
as previously sender had paid for next day delivery, which should have been the 14th.

queried with P2G last night as to why parcel had sat there for two days and was told 'high winds' had delayed the pickup [hopefully the same winds blew the leaves of the rails  :no:] and advised that delivery would be today.

just checked and    :o  it has been to Birmingham hub from Dartford and back to Burgess hill, arr at 06:03 this morning, and will be delivered between 12:25 and 13:25 today.

so perhaps not the happy thread, but maybe not the angry thread, but as suggested by another member, maybe the slightly miffed thread  :)

Its funny how people experience different service in different parts of the country. Round here DPD are superb, always prompt delivery, always on time, always left where told, always upload photo of delivery. The one time they left a parcel at the wrong house I phoned the driver, yes, the driver, and he turned round picked up the parcel and redelivered it to our house.

Royal Fail on the other hand....

...   :veryangry:   :censored:   :veryangry:   :censored:   :veryangry: ...

they couldn't deliver the punchline to a playground joke, I've got three complaints outstanding, the customer service is patronising and condescending, and I still have to go and collect my parcels. Apparently I have to write them a letter to enable them to know which neighbour they should try first....

...we only have ONE neighbour, which they've been told umpteen times.

Eeaaaaaarrrrrrggggghhhhhhhh!!!!!!

And don't get me started on Parcel Farce.

:veryangry:    :censored:   :veryangry2:   :censored:    :veryangry2:   :censored:    :veryangry:

:headbutt: :headbutt: :headbutt: :headbutt: :headbutt: :headbutt: :headbutt: :headbutt: :headbutt: :headbutt: :headbutt: :headbutt: :headbutt:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 15, 2019, 11:00:32 AM
we are very lucky here,

posties can read, and know where the safe place is if we are out

Hermes driver is the same

Yodel driver doesn't put parcels in the bin, but rings the bell and waits for you to answer

and the DPD driver is also great, it seems as always to be the the company that is [brown effluent waste]

guess we have people who are interested in doing their jobs, and for that I give thanks.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on March 15, 2019, 12:19:46 PM
Mrs Daffy and I must live a charmed life as we get plenty of parcel deliveries by all agencies and, as far as my memory serves me, have never had any problems.
Parcels from the USA, Europe, and nearer home all arrive safely and, in most cases, on time.

Of course, now I've said that, I suppose the next umpteen deliveries will buck the trend. ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on March 15, 2019, 02:45:10 PM
as you say different experiences in Different areas, We know the local Parcel force man so providing he's not on holiday, no problem.

The good companies,
Parcel force ,
Hermes,
Amazon.
Royal mail

The bad companies
Yodel claims there is no one in, But he's never even been to our road.
DHL the same.
business post (if they still exist)( gets out, puts card in door) gets back in van doesn't knock. drives away.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Caz on March 15, 2019, 07:55:59 PM
We have a whole different bunch of delivery companies here is Spain, the Royal Mail of Spain is called Correos and they are useless, never knock or ring, just leave a card and you have to go to their local office to collect.

By and large the courier companies are good, they all manage to find us except DHL who have NEVER managed to deliver a parcel to our address as they can't find it!  We live in a village just off the main rain, everyone else finds us but not them, go figure, get a phone call or a letter saying we can collect as they were unable to deliver  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: LASteve on March 15, 2019, 10:29:55 PM
They're pretty good here in the US, by and large, but I do try to stack the odds in my favor by being nice to my regular people at Christmas - it's amazing what a gift card will get you for service next year. My UPS guy even signs for me if I'm not home and something needs an adult signature (wine deliveries).

The USPS guy handles most of my deliveries of modelling-related shipments from the UK, and he's good about making more than the required three attempts to deliver before he leaves the "pick it up yourself" card. I work from home a lot though, so I'm usually around for deliveries, especially if I know I've got some goodies arriving from the UK stores I deal with (mainly Osborne's, Model Railways Direct, YouChoos.)

One time, the Fedex "last mile" delivery guy was obviously too lazy to walk up the steps to my door, which opens directly to the street. He Frisbee'd a book from Amazon aiming to bounce it off my door and onto the doormat. How do I know this? I opened the door on my way out to the store and the package hit me in the chest :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on March 16, 2019, 08:04:53 AM
Deliveries around are pretty good and that includes Yodel, Hermes and DPD and whoever does the Amazon drops in this area.

Royal Mail are also fine but Parcel Farce can be a real pain - I've ranted about them before  :-X

Must be so frustrating having an unreliable service.

Is there any point in letting the shipper know you're having problems? May be worth a mention when you're asked to rate their products and services.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 16, 2019, 10:43:25 AM
"Is there any point in letting the shipper know you're having problems? May be worth a mention when you're asked to rate their products and services."

I certainly think there is,  after all if you rate the seller poorly on delivery times etc it is unfair when it is out of his control.

I messaged the sender the first time, and pasted a copy of the tracking report. got a reply the next day with an apology, and saying I was not the only person having these problems. he added they were planning to change to Parcel Force from the next week.

when the second parcel started to have problems, and showed as being still with P2G / DPD, I messaged him again, but that evening got a phone call from him.
he was on holiday, and apparently Parcel Force arrived to collect the parcels, but as he wasn't there to sign a form, they couldn't, so the parcels were sent with DPD. sender says he ships up to 250 parcels a month, so that is a fair contract to not care about.
then got an e-mail explaining he had been on to P2G, who seem to have been as interested as they had when I spoke to them.
as it happened, the 'high winds' that P2G used as an excuse to the parcel sitting at the drop off point for two days must have dropped, because it was delivered the next day.
seller came across as 100% genuine, and from tracking I could see he had despatched same day as orders placed, so I saw no reason to rate him for the failings of the couriers.
think he'll be having an interesting conversation with P2G when he gets back, though  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: JBQFC on April 26, 2019, 07:48:33 PM
the department for works and pension are hopeless
as you may know my dad died last month
now my older brother is disabled my mum found out to day they have stopped his PIP not that they told her she found out when it did not go into the bank
a couple of phone calls later she found out that they have stop it as my dad was his named carer and that they cannot transfer it over to her and that she has to go through the whole claims process witch could take up to 4 weeks
when asked  what he do's for money till then no answer

John  :veryangry: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on April 26, 2019, 08:13:44 PM
I was going to do a suitable reply but don't want to get banned from the forum! So will have to make do with  :o :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 26, 2019, 08:31:04 PM
There are times, John, when one could almost wish such a thing on a politician or two as that's the only way things change.
I hope things get sorted out for you and your mother very soon
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on April 26, 2019, 09:11:29 PM
Quote from: JBQFC on April 26, 2019, 07:48:33 PM
the department for works and pension are hopeless
as you may know my dad died last month
now my older brother is disabled my mum found out to day they have stopped his PIP not that they told her she found out when it did not go into the bank
a couple of phone calls later she found out that they have stop it as my dad was his named carer and that they cannot transfer it over to her and that she has to go through the whole claims process witch could take up to 4 weeks
when asked  what he do's for money till then no answer

John  :veryangry: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored:

That's  :censored: outrageous!

So much so it puts my reason to have a winge on here into perspective and I shall withdraw. Maybe fantasising about politicians being "educated" in the physics of high velocity weapons.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on April 27, 2019, 09:50:16 AM
yet another example of our 'caring' government  :veryangry:

I gather from something I saw on the front of one of the papers the other day that the latest money saving idea is to look at stopping free tv licences for the over 75s, and stop the winter fuel payments for pensioners.

the idea, I suppose, is that they won't be able to afford to keep warm, will die, and save the cost of their pensions  :censored:

then the other idiot was on TV the other day saying he's going to spend millions on subsidising buses to reduce the number of cars on the roads, and where's the money going to come from ?

ROAD TAX  ???

your idea is to get less cars on the roads, so less people paying road tax  :doh:

honestly, my husky could make a better job than these cretins, and be cheaper to keep as well.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on April 27, 2019, 10:23:02 AM
[mod]This discussion is getting very close to breaking COC when it comes to politics. Please keep the obviously political stabs out of the thread, please.[/mod]
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on April 27, 2019, 11:19:24 AM
Quote from: Bealman on April 27, 2019, 10:23:02 AM
This discussion is getting very close to breaking COC when it comes to politics. Please keep the obviously political stabs out of the thread, please.

I apologise for getting too close to the line in the sand  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on April 27, 2019, 11:23:46 AM
" Maybe fantasising about politicians being "educated" in the physics of high velocity weapons."

others might have their own preferences, but I think mine would be for :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrett_M82

other options are no doubt available from your local illegal arms dealer.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on April 27, 2019, 12:14:53 PM
[mod]Locked.[/mod]
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on April 28, 2019, 10:07:45 AM
Topic unlocked.

By all means vent, folks, but please don't get too extreme  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: broadsword on April 28, 2019, 10:55:27 AM
Among things that get my goat are mission statements, like "We're on your side" and
"Protecting our community ", perhaps fire engines should have"We put out fires" painted
on their sides in case somebody doesn't know what they are.

The best one was SAC's  "Peace is our profession "  ................ :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: weave on April 28, 2019, 11:15:47 AM
... or The Hemorrhoid Removal Clinic slogan "We're right behind you"  :D

Sorry, I'll get my cream and go  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on April 28, 2019, 11:53:53 AM
Quote from: broadsword on April 28, 2019, 10:55:27 AM
Among things that get my goat are mission statements, like "We're on your side" and
"Protecting our community ", perhaps fire engines should have"We put out fires" painted
on their sides in case somebody doesn't know what they are.

"The Fire Brigade. Your Conflagration Suppression Professionals".
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on April 28, 2019, 05:51:51 PM
I had to sit through repeated adverts on the insurance company telephone line,  they kept saying they would insure my story.. Since I'm not an author I did not want a story insured, just my motor bike.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on April 28, 2019, 07:03:40 PM
John Lewis: Never Knowlingly Undersold ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: broadsword on April 29, 2019, 11:40:54 AM
That slogan always puzzled me, also much of their stuff is own label.......... ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on April 29, 2019, 02:26:03 PM
the claim is they will always price match.
However even things like branded washing machines are often a different part number so although they are all but Identical you can't get a lower price from them...

Though we did manage it on a VCR which tells you how long ago that was..
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 28, 2019, 09:16:42 AM
My current GPs surgery has a system whereby you call at 08.15 to make a morning appointment or 13.00 for an afternoon one. As soon as the Beeb clock hit 08.15 I started phoning and, after 14 calls, got through at 08.20 only to be told the last morning appointment had just gone and I'd have to start the process again at 13.00.
Is it any wonder folks go to A & E and clog that up?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on May 28, 2019, 10:22:37 AM
Yep, that's a familiar set up at surgeries I've used over the last twenty years or more. I share your frustration and irritation Mick.

My current surgery also does telephone consultations, and I sometimes mange to book one of them when the normal list is full, or when it's necessary, I just turn up on their doorstep and plead proper poorly. Works sometimes, but have ended up directed to the local hospitals A&E 'out of hours' service on one occasion not so long ago.

Problems are rife, and whether it's money, politics, lack of staff, or folks turning up for bad reasons, or whatever, is an endless conundrum.

Hope you get help for whatever ails you and are on the road to happier health soon. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on May 28, 2019, 10:28:49 AM
Our surgery is just as bad we phone dead on 8 o'clock and are told we are number ten in the que, please hold , your call is important to us , and you have to put up with horrible jangling so called music followed by the message repeated over and over again eventually to be told like you we are sorry no appointments left this morning ,So can I book for this afternoon no nothing all fully booked the next available appointment is in the afternoon in three days time .
How does the receptionist know what's wrong with you without even asking ,you might be dead in three days time depending what's wrong with you .
Having said that our little dog hurt her leg while out for her morning walk we rang the vet OK bring her in at 10.30 ,took her down and virtually walked straight in to see the vet e checked her over thoroughly no real damage just pulled a muscle gave a pain killer injection and we were back home in less than an hour .
IM GOING TO BE A DOG IN THE NEXT LIFE .Fed and watered cuddles all day that I'm awake can't be a bad life .
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on May 28, 2019, 10:33:17 AM
My ex surgery had a similar system,they also ring you back to vet you to check if you need to see the Doctor. This was very difficult for me when I was still working and trying to get a appointment. Your sat around waiting for a doctor or nurse to ring you. My wife waited 4 hours for a call back after her stroke. I have changed doctors to a more paitent friendly practice.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on May 28, 2019, 10:49:46 AM
Quote from: Bob Tidbury on May 28, 2019, 10:28:49 AM
IM GOING TO BE A DOG IN THE NEXT LIFE .Fed and watered cuddles all day that I'm awake can't be a bad life .

:hmmm: What breed of dog will your next reincarnation be Bob? :D

And remember, dogs have a lot of difficulty clipping rail tracks together, and get forced, through abuse of their natural instincts by some humans, to chase after balls and sticks thrown into freezing cold water. :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 28, 2019, 12:28:13 PM
Quote from: daffy on May 28, 2019, 10:49:46 AM
Quote from: Bob Tidbury on May 28, 2019, 10:28:49 AM
IM GOING TO BE A DOG IN THE NEXT LIFE .Fed and watered cuddles all day that I'm awake can't be a bad life .

:hmmm: What breed of dog will your next reincarnation be Bob? :D

And remember, dogs have a lot of difficulty clipping rail tracks together, and get forced, through abuse of their natural instincts by some humans, to chase after balls and sticks thrown into freezing cold water. :o

my bet would be a german shepherd, or possibly husky, owned by me.

even being an ex-furbox mechanic, all our dogs have been spoiled rotten, mind you they have also had to put up with being trained properly, but even that involves treats.

the odd tennis ball in the fields, but definitely nothing into water, cold or otherwise.

leave that to other breeds.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on May 28, 2019, 12:58:58 PM
daffy I think I will be a nice cuddly little dog owned by a very rich YOUNG lady
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 28, 2019, 01:53:02 PM
I failed to get through to make an appointment for this afternoon, too :veryangry:
It's a small practice with only 2 GPs so, after I nip down to see 70000 'Britannia' at Leyland tomorrow morning, I will be investigating changing my GP.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on May 28, 2019, 02:18:17 PM
At the practice I'm currently with, an apointment with a doctor 2 - 3 weeks wait, nurse practioner 2 days, or wait in the surgery with parking on the road outside at £1.80/hour. I've only seen a male doctor once in over 4 years, and that was a house call; usually young women doctors - salaried not partners, can be a bit embarassing at times, like with your trousers and pants down and her with a rubber glove on.

They sent me a letter in April asking me to phone for an appointment for a couple of annual reviews with a nurse, appointment is for June 24!!!!!!!!

Luckily I can request my repeat prescriptions on line for delivery; the pharmacy I had at first never looked at the prescriptions on line until you phoned up asking where your pills were, the one I'm with now delivers within 48 hours or less of me requesting.

One thing we have care line in these flats, ambulance and paramedics within minutes of pulling the cord or hitting the button

This all contrasts with the practice I was with before moving,I'd been with them for 23 years, never waited longer than next day for an appointment and only saw a woman doctor twice
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 28, 2019, 02:35:37 PM
My current practice is just round the corner from where I used to live and is also on the road to where I used to work but seeing as I moved to my bungalow 7 years ago and finished work 5 years ago, now seems a good time to find a place nearer and with better facilities e.g. more doctors, better parking, better hours etc. I have my prescriptions sent to my local pharmacy and collect them from there so no issues with them.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: broadsword on May 28, 2019, 03:31:50 PM
Re docs, If you need attention I don't care if they're male or female, as long as they
do their job and can consult when required. No Carry On jokes please ...
(all male docs and all female nurses).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on May 28, 2019, 11:58:46 PM
When I arrived here in 1974 (off the convict ship, as NewportNobby insists on telling people), I found myself a GP who turned out to be really good.

Unfortunately he died about 15 years ago and I didn't find out for a while after. By the time I did, all my paper medical records had disappeared.

Since then I've had about 6 or 7 different GPs, just at the time in life when you really need someone who knows you and your medical history well.

I have only being seeing the latest one for 6 months. Of course these days I get appointment reminders on me phone (don't forget we pay for consultations here), along with offers such as free flu jabs on certain days.

Ah well, c'est la vie here at the Antipodes.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 29, 2019, 03:52:37 PM
Quote from: Bealman on May 28, 2019, 11:58:46 PM
When I arrived here in 1974 (off the convict ship, as NewportNobby insists on telling people)

I note you haven't actually denied it yet, though, George :hmmm: ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on May 29, 2019, 04:47:24 PM
Might this be why he was on that convict ship?

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/77/2855-290519164603.jpeg)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on May 29, 2019, 04:56:05 PM
Can we used that gentleman's name as an alternative swear word on the forum please?  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on May 30, 2019, 05:43:41 AM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on May 29, 2019, 04:47:24 PM
Might this be why he was on that convict ship?

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/77/2855-290519164603.jpeg)

Whale oil beef hooked.

Not guilty of that one, m'lud.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on May 30, 2019, 10:44:47 AM
The bridge referred to is reckoned to be the oldest in Dorset, some other old bridges carry the same notice.

http://www.whitemill.org/z0005.htm (http://www.whitemill.org/z0005.htm)

(click on images for larger)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on May 30, 2019, 12:54:05 PM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on May 30, 2019, 10:44:47 AM
The bridge referred to is reckoned to be the oldest in Dorset, some other old bridges carry the same notice.

http://www.whitemill.org/z0005.htm (http://www.whitemill.org/z0005.htm)

(click on images for larger)
i thought the various clapper bridges were meant to be much older
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on May 30, 2019, 01:10:59 PM
Clapper bridges are more primitive than Whitemill more like stone slabs bridging betwen stepping stones, there may have been one at this site before the present structure

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clapper_bridge (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clapper_bridge)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on June 15, 2019, 09:39:40 AM
It's insurance renewal time again and I can definitely say not all insurance companies are created equal.

Car insurance was dealt with last week and for the third year in a row we will be staying with Aviva. I have absolutely no problem with these guys and happily recommend them  :thumbsup:

Today, having received a "reminder" (no, it's actually a missive) from the home insurance provider, that needs sorting. I write this on the Angry Thread because of the sentence "we will take payment automatically".

:veryangry: :censored:

No.

I never ever agree to that and it flipping annoys me. Add to that the fact that said premium has gone up over 25% (must have been an "introductory offer" last year  ::)) and it's almost certain this bunch of cowboys will be told to do one.

And the name? Let's just say they would be very highly ranked in the Navy.

Skyline2uk 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 15, 2019, 11:40:14 AM
When I approached those 'very highly ranked in the Navy' about my motorcycle insurance they took all my details but I didn't have the registration number from the dealer at the time. I called them back next day and they told me they don't list my bike so couldn't insure me. On checking their website, sure enough, there was the model of my bike. Needless to say they are on my  :poop: list as far as any insurance goes.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on June 15, 2019, 11:45:24 AM
An admiral decision Mick!  :)

Dave G

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on June 15, 2019, 12:59:37 PM
**Update**

An hour or so messing around online has resulted in:

Increased coverage (now including my e-bike) and greater contents cover.
Cover for the garage
A lower premium (after cashback) than the aformenioned highly ranked navy types

When I presented these facts to my current provider on the phone, I got a "very sorry to hear you are thinking of leaving us, what if offered you this price (£23 less) than the e-mail offer....."

:goggleeyes:

Lets just think about this for a second;

What they just actually said was "We know we sent you an automatic message saying we will automtically take some money from you and renew your premium, but if you actually bother to ring us (and deal with awful hold music), we will give you THE EXACT same cover for almost 25% less..."

Now I am sorry but that is just  :censored: cynical.

Needless to say, proof of cancellation just arrived in my e-mail in box!

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 15, 2019, 01:07:53 PM
Had a similar thing in that I received a renewal from 'a long winded epic story' company and found same cover for less with another company. I rang up 'long winded epic story' company and was immediately offered a 'loyalty' bonus which took their premium below the competition ::)
I told them where to stick it on the basis they should have offered that in the first place and not try to screw me for what they thought they could get away with.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on June 15, 2019, 07:10:51 PM
As Mrs talisman has finally hung up her working clothes, the time was ripe to see what the open market could offer our vehicle insurance for.

Backstory is that Mrs t. was self-employed and used her own vehicle, and we were tied to 'a small brown and white' dog company as they were the only ones prepared to offer the insurance she required, and as a result they were regularly 'extracting the urine' with their renewal demands, which were reduced when one phoned up (as others have noted). Having used a couple of the on-line comparison sites (the one with the meerkats and the fat man singing) looking for multi-car for our two vehicles, I was deeply suspicious of the 'introductory' prices quoted and eventually gave up.

I then tried the company we have a bit of life insurance with, (A Merseyside city + Manchester (or London) station) and once I had put all the details in and waited a couple of tens of seconds for a response, was confronted by a blank page with 'Sorry we can't provide you with the inurance you requested' and a return to the page we started on, inviting me to submit an application for car insurance.

So I tried the 'Winston Woolfe' company and within a few minutes had a quote, while a bit larger than the comparison sites, after comparison of what the insurance actually included versus what were extras in others, decided to take a punt on that. We'll see what the renewal is in 12 months time, but in the mean time we have insurance that I am pretty happy with.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on June 15, 2019, 07:20:55 PM
It's a fun game insurance renewal isn't it :doh:

I set aside at least an hour a year for each,  because though the comparison sites have made the job easier, some big name companies don't list on them.

@talisman56 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2626) : If you are still looking at multicar next year, have a look at Aviva. I do not recommend any company lightly, but I have never had any issue with them. Phone calls are a pleasure and we have made numerous changes during the term (including a car!) and never been charged an admin fee.

Plus their website is a doddle compared to others.

Anyway, back to being angry....grrrr....

Skyline2uk



Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on June 15, 2019, 08:08:41 PM
Trying to decode some of these insurance company names is like doing The Times crossword. ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on June 15, 2019, 08:10:52 PM
What ever happened to the Pru, Norwich Union, Scottish Widows et al?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 16, 2019, 03:22:37 AM
Quote from: RailGooner on June 15, 2019, 08:08:41 PM
Trying to decode some of these insurance company names is like doing The Times crossword. ???

Yeah, but it's a bit of fun in this Angry part. So far, I haven't been stumped although it's been a near thing now and then!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on June 16, 2019, 11:25:04 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on June 16, 2019, 03:22:37 AM
Quote from: RailGooner on June 15, 2019, 08:08:41 PM
Trying to decode some of these insurance company names is like doing The Times crossword. ???

Yeah, but it's a bit of fun in this Angry part. So far, I haven't been stumped although it's been a near thing now and then!

Maybe fun if you've got them all. It took me an embarrassingly long time to get 'Winston Woolfe' :-[ and I'm still stumped by 'a long winded epic story'! The frustration is making me a little angry. >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on June 16, 2019, 11:50:22 AM
Quote from: RailGooner on June 16, 2019, 11:25:04 AM
Maybe fun if you've got them all. It took me an embarrassingly long time to get 'Winston Woolfe' :-[ and I'm still stumped by 'a long winded epic story'! The frustration is making me a little angry. >:(

Saga?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on June 16, 2019, 11:55:51 AM
Quote from: stevewalker on June 16, 2019, 11:50:22 AM

Saga?

Sounds more like a soap opera!





Sorry  :-[ off to get my coat
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on June 16, 2019, 12:12:55 PM
Holidays for old folks.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on June 16, 2019, 12:35:12 PM
Quote from: stevewalker on June 16, 2019, 11:50:22 AM
Quote from: RailGooner on June 16, 2019, 11:25:04 AM
Maybe fun if you've got them all. It took me an embarrassingly long time to get 'Winston Woolfe' :-[ and I'm still stumped by 'a long winded epic story'! The frustration is making me a little angry. >:(

Saga?

:doh: :smackedface:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: broadsword on June 16, 2019, 12:50:21 PM
The Direct Line was set up by the RBS years ago, the guy who thought it up, an RBS employee
was on a profit related to how well the project went, he was so embarrassed by the amount he was
making he took  lower percentage...... ???  not sure who owns it now.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 16, 2019, 12:56:07 PM
Quote from: RailGooner on June 16, 2019, 12:35:12 PM
Quote from: stevewalker on June 16, 2019, 11:50:22 AM
Quote from: RailGooner on June 16, 2019, 11:25:04 AM
Maybe fun if you've got them all. It took me an embarrassingly long time to get 'Winston Woolfe' :-[ and I'm still stumped by 'a long winded epic story'! The frustration is making me a little angry. >:(

Saga?

:doh: :smackedface:

>:D >:D ;)
So far I have spotted the following cryptic ones:-
Admiral
Churchill
Compare the Market
Go Compare
LVA
Direct Line

(Note I did say 'so far')
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: broadsword on June 16, 2019, 01:01:56 PM
PS the Winstone  Woolfe ads are quite entertaining, just waiting for Harvey Keitel
to shoot someone when they say they'll use Aviva instead. Regarding celebs in
tv ads the Kevin Bacon EE is are awful as are the Harry Redknapp bookie and
the Alan Marshtit funeral plan ads. , plus anything with Ant and Dec, Claudia
Winklepicker and beardies flogging razors.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: broadsword on June 16, 2019, 01:04:21 PM
How about Prince doing a Purple Bricks ad.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on June 16, 2019, 01:04:51 PM
Quote from: broadsword on June 16, 2019, 01:01:56 PM
PS the Winstone  Woolfe ads are quite entertaining, just waiting for Harvey Keitel
to shoot someone when they say they'll use Aviva instead. Regrading celebs in
tv ads the Kevin Bacon EE is are awful as are the Harry Redknapp bookie and
the Alan Marshtit funeral plan ads. , plus anything with Ant and Dec, Claudia
Winklepicker and beardies flogging razors.

Oooohhh don't get our house started on the Ant of Ant and Dec...isn't it amazing how quickly you can be forgiven for something that (rightly) would in all probability cost a normal person their job and cause serious financial issues?

:veryangry:

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on June 16, 2019, 01:45:12 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on June 16, 2019, 01:04:51 PM
Quote from: broadsword on June 16, 2019, 01:01:56 PM
PS the Winstone  Woolfe ads are quite entertaining, just waiting for Harvey Keitel
to shoot someone when they say they'll use Aviva instead. Regrading celebs in
tv ads the Kevin Bacon EE is are awful as are the Harry Redknapp bookie and
the Alan Marshtit funeral plan ads. , plus anything with Ant and Dec, Claudia
Winklepicker and beardies flogging razors.

Oooohhh don’t get our house started on the Ant of Ant and Dec...isn’t it amazing how quickly you can be forgiven for something that (rightly) would in all probability cost a normal person their job and cause serious financial issues?

:veryangry:

Skyline2uk

I don't recall seeing Ant or Dec in any ads before Ant's drink-driving crash brouhaha. Now I suppose Ant's price has fallen such that agencies can afford to book him, and he needs to be seen so as to raise his profile again.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Yet_Another on June 16, 2019, 01:53:17 PM
Re. cryptic clues; as well as the angry thread, do we also need 'a cross' thread?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: broadsword on June 16, 2019, 01:59:47 PM
Or a stripped thread, for engineers not people who remove their clothing.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 16, 2019, 02:54:13 PM
Quote from: stevewalker on June 16, 2019, 11:50:22 AM
Saga?

https://images.app.goo.gl/19Gm8U4tGaMMP2TK7 (https://images.app.goo.gl/19Gm8U4tGaMMP2TK7) The very girl :heart2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on June 16, 2019, 03:20:16 PM
I still fondly remember the Alliance & Leicester building society ads with Hugh Laurie & Stephen Fry.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on June 16, 2019, 05:06:12 PM
There was a cartoon ad in the 60s with some guy leaning over the wall of a circular tower and knocking the side saying, "Strong stuff, this insurance". No idea as to the company concerned, but the punchline stuck in my mind.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 16, 2019, 05:36:33 PM
Quote from: broadsword on June 16, 2019, 01:04:21 PM
How about Prince doing a Purple Bricks ad.

I have a feeling that may not come about :hmmm:

Quote from: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 16, 2019, 02:54:13 PM
Quote from: stevewalker on June 16, 2019, 11:50:22 AM
Saga?

https://images.app.goo.gl/19Gm8U4tGaMMP2TK7 (https://images.app.goo.gl/19Gm8U4tGaMMP2TK7) The very girl :heart2:

Can I just say the colour suits the car? :sick:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on June 16, 2019, 09:26:27 PM
Quote from: Malc on June 16, 2019, 05:06:12 PM
There was a cartoon ad in the 60s with some guy leaning over the wall of a circular tower and knocking the side saying, "Strong stuff, this insurance". No idea as to the company concerned, but the punchline stuck in my mind.

I remember that Malc.

The catchphrase was "get the strength of "name of insurance company that you and I have forgot" around you.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on June 16, 2019, 11:10:50 PM
The (Virgin TV) guide and Eurosport 1HD channel info, tell me I'm watching 'Critérium du Dauphiné Cycling' but my eyes and the commentary tell me I'm watching the Tour of Switzerland! :censored: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on June 17, 2019, 06:42:30 AM
Quote from: Malc on June 16, 2019, 05:06:12 PM
There was a cartoon ad in the 60s with some guy leaning over the wall of a circular tower and knocking the side saying, "Strong stuff, this insurance". No idea as to the company concerned, but the punchline stuck in my mind.

Something like this, @Malc (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=497)?

http://www.turnipnet.com/tv/insurance.ram (http://www.turnipnet.com/tv/insurance.ram)

I think I'm getting old!  :doh:

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 17, 2019, 10:03:48 AM
Quote from: RailGooner on June 16, 2019, 11:10:50 PM
The (Virgin TV) guide and Eurosport 1HD channel info, tell me I'm watching 'Critérium du Dauphiné Cycling' but my eyes and the commentary tell me I'm watching the Tour of Switzerland! :censored: :veryangry:

The C du D did end up in Switzerland, which struck me as strange to have 2 tours on in Switzerland at the same time (although the Dauphiné was finishing)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on June 17, 2019, 10:45:37 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on June 17, 2019, 10:03:48 AM
Quote from: RailGooner on June 16, 2019, 11:10:50 PM
The (Virgin TV) guide and Eurosport 1HD channel info, tell me I'm watching 'Critérium du Dauphiné Cycling' but my eyes and the commentary tell me I'm watching the Tour of Switzerland! :censored: :veryangry:

The C du D did end up in Switzerland, which struck me as strange to have 2 tours on in Switzerland at the same time (although the Dauphiné was finishing)

Which just compounded my confusion. ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on June 17, 2019, 09:02:14 PM
Quote from: daveg on June 17, 2019, 06:42:30 AM
Quote from: Malc on June 16, 2019, 05:06:12 PM
There was a cartoon ad in the 60s with some guy leaning over the wall of a circular tower and knocking the side saying, "Strong stuff, this insurance". No idea as to the company concerned, but the punchline stuck in my mind.

Something like this, @Malc (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=497)?


http://www.turnipnet.com/tv/insurance.ram (http://www.turnipnet.com/tv/insurance.ram)

I think I'm getting old!  :doh:

Dave G
Not quite Dave, but something similar. The guy leans over and knocks the side and says ,"strong stuff this insurance"
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 19, 2019, 01:45:11 PM
@Malc (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=497) does this ring a bell?

A general reminder from the British Insurance Association to make sure you had sufficient cover. From the 50's

Cartoon character called Fred drives home humming to himself

Voiceover: Home sweet home, Fred — or is it? The fact is, Fred, you've only got half a home — half a hall, half a bedroom. Forgot it had gone up in value, didn't you. Fred — you're under-insured!

Fred (waking up): What a nightmare! But half a minute — I am under-insured!

Voiceover: But not for long.

Fred (with his wife and two children protected by an insurance policy shaped like a castle:
Get the full strength of the insurance companies around you!

The piece of paper folds into a castle with Fred on top and he reaches down and knocks on the wall and says:

Strong stuff this Insurance!

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on June 19, 2019, 04:26:31 PM
That's the very badger, Mick. I take it there is no clip on YouTube?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on June 19, 2019, 06:11:44 PM
The original ad is listed in this webpage as a video clip - 23rd item down - but I need to download it to my iPad to view it, so I guess it will have a PC player link for ... er.... PC's:

http://www.turnipnet.com/whirligig/tv/adverts/commercials.htm (http://www.turnipnet.com/whirligig/tv/adverts/commercials.htm)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on June 19, 2019, 06:22:48 PM
Quote from: daffy on June 19, 2019, 06:11:44 PM
The original ad is listed in this webpage as a video clip - 23rd item down - but I need to download it to my iPad to view it, so I guess it will have a PC player link for ... er.... PC's:
...

They're *.RAM files, which IIRC are Real Player files - not natively supported in Windows.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on June 19, 2019, 06:43:22 PM
Yes, RealPlayer Limited files, and looks like I can't get it to play on the ipad too. Apparently there are file converters around to convert to mp3 but that's a faff I'll not bother with.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NeMo on June 19, 2019, 06:49:35 PM
Quote from: daffy on June 19, 2019, 06:43:22 PM
Yes, RealPlayer Limited files, and looks like I can't get it to play on the ipad too. Apparently there are file converters around to convert to mp3 but that's a faff I'll not bother with.

(https://i.imgflip.com/33ubp9.jpg) (https://imgflip.com/i/33ubp9)via Imgflip Meme Generator (https://imgflip.com/memegenerator)

Cheers, NeMo
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 19, 2019, 09:11:21 PM
Quote from: Malc on June 19, 2019, 04:26:31 PM
That's the very badger, Mick. I take it there is no clip on YouTube?

A shame but "No" (he said mildly angrily)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on June 19, 2019, 09:20:45 PM
VLC will play it although it's really tiny and poor quality.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 21, 2019, 03:04:52 PM
Cyclists beware!!!!!!
This sort of thing just makes me furious as those morons who need to be surgically separated from their mobiles deserve all they get. She got off lightly in my opinion - it could have been a bus or lorry :censored:

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/cyclist-hit-yoga-teacher-stepped-074600530.html
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on June 21, 2019, 03:35:24 PM
I can never understand our laws ,How can it have been the cyclists fault ,he shouted out and sounded a warning ,if she was so busy on her mobile it's her fault she should have been paying attention ,I think the same law for motorists should apply to pedestrians ,if they need to make a call or text they should stop walking .
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 21, 2019, 04:52:45 PM
I say stupidity on the woman on the phone' s part. Ive had a mile walk after the train home after the bus failed and had to cross 3 busy junctions and road works with a mess everywhere. Hence why ive had phone off
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on June 21, 2019, 05:19:49 PM
Quote from: Bob Tidbury on June 21, 2019, 03:35:24 PM
I can never understand our laws ,How can it have been the cyclists fault ,he shouted out and sounded a warning ,if she was so busy on her mobile it's her fault she should have been paying attention ,I think the same law for motorists should apply to pedestrians ,if they need to make a call or text they should stop walking .
Bob Tidbury

I would like to temper this a little by saying there's always a few that spoil it for the many.

Having witnessed cyclists carrying on through red lights, hitting pedestrians on a zebra crossing, and using their phone whilst cycling, it's not much different to the motorists that do similar.

Be it cycling, motoring, horse riding etc., there's always a few. If you use the road in any of these endeavours, I personally think that you should have insurance by law.

Not saying she wasn't at fault, but as the judge said, they were both at fault.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on June 21, 2019, 07:54:09 PM
I'm a pedestrian in Oxford, so I hate cyclists with a passion. Living here has resulted in my own cycle being abandoned to the back of the shed.

But, I think this case is a complete travesty of justice. Help cover Robert Hazeldean's legal fees (https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-cover-rob-hazeldean039s-legal-fees) if you too think he's innocent*.



* If not innocent then surely no more guilty than Gemma Brushett.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on June 28, 2019, 05:01:11 PM
Not angry, just a bit miffed.
Yesterday my Lidls (Silvercrest Cocoon 8410) phone went t/u after about 25 years.  The corded wall hung base unit will not "talk" to the remote handset. and it seems to have developed amnesia. So I need a new phone, fair enough, and it owes me nothing. Problem is, I've spent all afternoon trying to get an equivalent replacement. Must be a wall hung base unit and there's the rub, none that I can find of these modern home phones are wall hung.  If I had any hair, I would be pulling it out. :confused2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on June 28, 2019, 05:49:17 PM
Is this the type of thing you are after?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Geemarc-Marbella-Gondola-Corded-Telephone-Black/dp/B0001UR7SM/ref=sr_1_4?adgrpid=5816 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Geemarc-Marbella-Gondola-Corded-Telephone-Black/dp/B0001UR7SM/ref=sr_1_4?adgrpid=5816)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on June 28, 2019, 06:16:30 PM
Sadly not David, but thank you. More like this with the ability for the base unit to be wall hung .
https://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/phones-broadband-and-sat-nav/telephones/telephones/bt-4600-cordless-phone-with-answering-machine-twin-handsets-10144167-pdt.html (https://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/phones-broadband-and-sat-nav/telephones/telephones/bt-4600-cordless-phone-with-answering-machine-twin-handsets-10144167-pdt.html)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on June 28, 2019, 07:32:54 PM
QuoteYesterday my Lidls (Silvercrest Cocoon 8410) phone went t/u after about 25 years.  The corded wall hung base unit will not "talk" to the remote handset. and it seems to have developed amnesia.
have you tryed turning it off and on again? unplug the power, phone line and batterys,leave it half an hour and reconnect,also worth changing the battery in the  remote unit.check the base unit and remote for a reset button,also try and find if theres a factory reset procedure
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on June 28, 2019, 08:35:28 PM
All sorted.  Tried the old unplug trick, and while it was, checked the voltage out of the AC adapter, zilch!
Had a root round the train shed and found a multi voltage adapter lurking under the bench. Connected it up to the phone set at 6v, hey presto, phone is back to normal, memory restored and it's talking to the remote handset again.   
Must complain to Lidls that their AC adapter only lasted 25 years :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on June 28, 2019, 08:43:34 PM
Quote from: TrevL on June 28, 2019, 08:35:28 PM

Must complain to Lidls that their AC adapter only lasted 25 years

They don't make things to last do they?  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on June 29, 2019, 10:05:28 AM
"have you tryed turning it off and on again? unplug the power,"

also known as re-boot.
worked on the vending machines next to the security office when they played up at night / weekend  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on June 29, 2019, 04:24:55 PM
Quote from: class37025 on June 29, 2019, 10:05:28 AM
"have you tryed turning it off and on again? unplug the power,"

also known as re-boot.
worked on the vending machines next to the security office when they played up at night / weekend  :)

Was that the power-off trick or application of an item of footwear, size 9?

---

"Turn it off and back on again"

Step 1 in the Microsoft 'Debugging Windows for Dummies' book...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on June 29, 2019, 05:13:26 PM
Quote from: talisman56 on June 29, 2019, 04:24:55 PM
Quote from: class37025 on June 29, 2019, 10:05:28 AM
"have you tryed turning it off and on again? unplug the power,"

also known as re-boot.
worked on the vending machines next to the security office when they played up at night / weekend  :)

Was that the power-off trick or application of an item of footwear, size 9?

either is probably as effective  >:D

---

"Turn it off and back on again"

Step 1 in the Microsoft 'Debugging Windows for Dummies' book...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on June 29, 2019, 06:54:41 PM
All the above "Turn it off and turn it on again" talk was doing me no good yesterday with my 6-month old PC...

Dam thing was a zombie and refused to turn on. The little LED behind the power button was on but the machine just sat there doing nothing.

This morning, having left it unplugged over night, tried again. Nada.

Then I unplugged EVERYTHING (monitor cable and speakers) and picked up the machine (not that hard, it's an Intel NUC, look it up  ;)), and plugged just the power back in.

Like Robbie Williams it rose again.

Been fine ever since.

Fingers crossed.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on June 30, 2019, 04:29:31 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on June 29, 2019, 06:54:41 PM
All the above "Turn it off and turn it on again" talk was doing me no good yesterday with my 6-month old PC...

Dam thing was a zombie and refused to turn on. The little LED behind the power button was on but the machine just sat there doing nothing.

This morning, having left it unplugged over night, tried again. Nada.

Then I unplugged EVERYTHING (monitor cable and speakers) and picked up the machine (not that hard, it's an Intel NUC, look it up  ;)), and plugged just the power back in.

Like Robbie Williams it rose again.

Been fine ever since.

Fingers crossed.

Skyline2uk
It just wanted a bit of love.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jon898 on June 30, 2019, 06:00:42 PM
Quote from: Malc on June 30, 2019, 04:29:31 PM

It just wanted a bit of love.
[/quote]

Maybe it just prefers those new green electrons?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on June 30, 2019, 06:15:45 PM
Whatever the cause, it's still working.

I swear I radiate something that leccy machines don't like, work laptops, printers, my PC, all go mad around me!

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on June 30, 2019, 06:55:38 PM
Was at the Perth show today as some of you know and was chatting (as usual) with Steve & Sarah from https://www.themodeltreeshop.co.uk/? (https://www.themodeltreeshop.co.uk/?) they have become good friends over the years and those that know them know that they've not had their troubles to seek. Anyway they have invested in a new set up for shows, getting rid of the old glass counter and having vertical racks so folks can browse more easily. Giving the punters better access to view their stock has resulted in a huge increase in thefts. What the hell are modellers doing, it's a damn disgrace. Here you have a couple who have worked all the hours sent, spent years building up a business just for people like you and me, modelling enthusiasts, to rob from them. It's disgusting!  Because it is modellers nicking this stuff, it's not high value in the grand scheme of things, this is modellers nicking it and you, whoever you are, disgust me  :censored: :veryangry:

Steve also told me that all the media attention regarding the Market Deeping show getting done over by those kids has alerted the criminal community to the value of model railways and associated equipment. In fact another show recently got burgled, Digitrains and another retailer both lost about £20k of stock  :veryangry:

It's now getting to the stage where folks putting on shows will have to employ overnight security.  I came away from the show with mixed feelings because it was a great show but what the hell is our hobby turning into?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on June 30, 2019, 07:05:09 PM
@Lawrence (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=16) I agree entirely with the sentiments you express above.

It's not a new thing (though I do not dispute the idea recent events would have made it worse).

I know one fairly major retailer who won't do Warley any more due to theft.

Nothing is sacred  :(

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 30, 2019, 08:55:30 PM
Sadly this has been going on for a few years but appears to be getting worse lately. Our local emporium has stopped going to shows as they need about 5 people behind a smallish stand just to prevent the light fingered  :censored: doing what they like. In such a case their shop is denuded of experienced sales people for the duration of the show. Not good. Not good at all.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 30, 2019, 09:31:39 PM
vigilance is required. one will not stop these thieves. not sure if security, alarms, will help

if i was exhibiting i would not leave anything unattended
and maybe cards or a5 sheets and photos and the customer has to ask and show the cash before the item is handed.  i share the views lawrence,mick
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on June 30, 2019, 10:22:43 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on June 29, 2019, 06:54:41 PM
All the above "Turn it off and turn it on again" talk was doing me no good yesterday with my 6-month old PC...

Dam thing was a zombie and refused to turn on. The little LED behind the power button was on but the machine just sat there doing nothing.

This morning, having left it unplugged over night, tried again. Nada.

Then I unplugged EVERYTHING (monitor cable and speakers) and picked up the machine (not that hard, it's an Intel NUC, look it up  ;)), and plugged just the power back in.

Like Robbie Williams it rose again.

Been fine ever since.

Fingers crossed.

Skyline2uk

This was a thing when I was employed developing systems and keeping them running. Sometimes a Power Supply get into a 'lock on' situation, the power is off but whetever is done it won't switch on. The cure was to switch off and disconnect the power cord from the back of the computer and leave it for half an hour or so to allow the stored charge in the capacitors to dissipate. After the power cord is reconnected and power re-applied, all was well. If not, then a new PSU was prescribed...

With your situation, it was one of the other components that had this issue, I would keep an eye on them to see if you have other issues which will require action taken.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on June 30, 2019, 10:26:12 PM
Quote from: talisman56 on June 30, 2019, 10:22:43 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on June 29, 2019, 06:54:41 PM
All the above "Turn it off and turn it on again" talk was doing me no good yesterday with my 6-month old PC...

Dam thing was a zombie and refused to turn on. The little LED behind the power button was on but the machine just sat there doing nothing.

This morning, having left it unplugged over night, tried again. Nada.

Then I unplugged EVERYTHING (monitor cable and speakers) and picked up the machine (not that hard, it's an Intel NUC, look it up  ;)), and plugged just the power back in.

Like Robbie Williams it rose again.

Been fine ever since.

Fingers crossed.

Skyline2uk

This was a thing when I was employed developing systems and keeping them running. Sometimes a Power Supply get into a 'lock on' situation, the power is off but whetever is done it won't switch on. The cure was to switch off and disconnect the power cord from the back of the computer and leave it for half an hour or so to allow the stored charge in the capacitors to dissipate. After the power cord is reconnected and power re-applied, all was well. If not, then a new PSU was prescribed...

With your situation, it was one of the other components that had this issue, I would keep an eye on them to see if you have other issues which will require action taken.

Thanks for that I shall indeed keep a close eye on it.

I was recommended this PC by a good friend (it replaces 2 laptops) and he is on standby for any issues  ;D

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on July 01, 2019, 06:30:30 PM
just been watching the news, and there was an item on a rescue off the Dorset coast .....

two young d**kh***s decided to jump off a harbour wall into the sea ......

never mind all the publicity about DON'T DO THIS ......

result, swept out to sea, inshore rescue scrambled to save them, and then a chopper to fly them to hospital for checkups  :veryangry:

so, inshore rescue not available for a real emergency ....
chopper not available for a real emergency ......
overworked NHS hospital with added workload ......

:censored:

anybody else in favour of presenting a BIG BILL to teach the little s***s a lesson ?

obviously too stupid to be allowed to reproduce, so I'd say leave the stupid sods to drown.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 01, 2019, 09:14:18 PM
Present invoice to the parents and give the kids a criminal record they can go through life with
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on July 01, 2019, 09:25:05 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 01, 2019, 09:14:18 PM
give the kids a criminal record they can go through life with

Sorry Mick, you can not do that these days - it will stunt their growth or some such namby pamby excuse for spoiling their future life.  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on July 01, 2019, 09:29:34 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 01, 2019, 09:14:18 PM
Present invoice to the parents and give the kids a criminal record they can go through life with

totally agree re invoice, IIRC I remember years ago reading somewhere how much it cost to fly a chopper per hour, and it wasn't cheap

as for the cretins, how about mooring several hundred yards off shore in a small dinghy, as rescue for further d**kh***s, give them a box of survival rations, a packet of wet-wipes and a roll of plastic bags, you ex squaddies will I am sure remember what they were for  ;D

they might get the message after a few days, and nights.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: acko22 on July 01, 2019, 09:38:15 PM
Quote from: class37025 on July 01, 2019, 09:29:34 PM
how much it cost to fly a chopper per hour, and it wasn't cheap
The helicopters the Coastguard use are similar to RAF/Navy Merlins and they are £9,000 per hour to have in the air  :goggleeyes:

Quote from: class37025 on July 01, 2019, 09:29:34 PM
give them a box of survival rations, a packet of wet-wipes and a roll of plastic bags, you ex squaddies will I am sure remember what they were for  ;D

Well the rations fair enough, but cant use single use plastic bags we want to save on pollution, however that waste is biodegradable so just hang over the edge and supply some fish food!  Oh and to clean things up not like there would be a shortage of water to clean with!  :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on July 01, 2019, 09:43:43 PM
do you still get the

biscuits, square, dog in the big tins ?

believe the proper term was 'hard-tack' but even a hungry gsd used to have a job with them  :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on July 01, 2019, 11:26:20 PM
Quote from: class37025 on July 01, 2019, 06:30:30 PM
two young d**kh***s decided to jump off a harbour wall into the sea ......

I'm not sure if this is the same story, but there was one in the papers earlier today and, if it is the same one, the second one jumped in to try and save the first, which changes the picture somewhat - at least for him.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on July 02, 2019, 12:22:22 AM
may well be, in which case I'm happy to stand corrected.

mind you, as we all know, reporters, both papers and tv, are never ones to let the truth get in the way of a story.

so, one idiot in the dinghy, with a tin of dog biscuits, while mummy and daddy sell their house to pay the bill.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on July 02, 2019, 09:24:23 AM
No swearing on here please, even if covered up with *****.  Thank you!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on July 02, 2019, 09:39:49 AM
my apologies, o great leader  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 02, 2019, 09:50:00 AM
i was speaking to a colleague at work, who is much respected and having dealt with a person who was not pleasant and feltlike cursing etc, i took two minutes , deep breath, water. my colleague said " sometimes it helps to change the way we say things or phrase things ". it gave me food for thought.


and i was not in the wrong. i said to a man " please take a seat, i cannot give answer as a decision is being taken " ( following an event i would rather not repeat and i realised this man ' s behaviour was not going to change. " an announcement will be made shortly sir " i said for the second time. A ) to mine and my colleague 's amazement this man who could not leave alone watching us deal with a tragic event and b ) take no or c ) gratify himself watching - walked away.

see how my colleague 's words made the difference
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on July 24, 2019, 05:41:27 PM
Escallating from the "Unhappy Thread"...

eBay luck: 0 for 2.

Order one, cancelled by seller, refund ALMOST reaching card (so flipping slow to return, speed of light to leave).

Order two, lost in the realms of rubbish courier and / or Argos. Have just got back from Argos who (in the defence of person behind counter) where acrtually more helpful then I anticpated. I fully expected "computer says no" once they established I didnt have a collection code. However, order may or may not be in a "cage full of parcels"  ::)

Seller notified, and the wait continues  :(

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 12, 2019, 10:09:24 AM
It's raining yet again :rain:
No one told me when I moved to Lankyshire there was a monsoon season. I'm developing webbed feet ::) :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 12, 2019, 10:15:50 AM
is the conservatory standing up to the test mick ?

its that pennine  weather mick that can try yorkshire direction
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 12, 2019, 02:24:03 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on August 12, 2019, 10:09:24 AM
It's raining yet again :rain:
No one told me when I moved to Lankyshire there was a monsoon season. I'm developing webbed feet ::) :veryangry:
You are just east of the Lake District. Those lakes didn't get there because it's a dry spot.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 12, 2019, 03:16:15 PM
Quote from: crewearpley40 on August 12, 2019, 10:15:50 AM
is the conservatory standing up to the test mick ?

All good so far so thanks to Penwortham Glass :)

Quote from: Malc on August 12, 2019, 02:24:03 PM

You are just east of the Lake District. Those lakes didn't get there because it's a dry spot.

Geography fail, Malc. Actually about 55 miles south of the Southern Lakes :P
Manchester just 30 miles south of where I am
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 12, 2019, 03:20:30 PM
You are still on the wrong side of the Pennines though. The prevailing winds are the westerlies from the Atlantic, bringing rain and dropping it on you!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 12, 2019, 03:21:37 PM
thats a relief mick !!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 12, 2019, 03:22:52 PM
True - but thanks to those self same Pennines we don't get it as bad as the White Rose mob :no: >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 12, 2019, 03:24:23 PM
You mean God's own country where you don't get rain, just liquid sunshine.😁
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 12, 2019, 03:32:53 PM
Quote from: Malc on August 12, 2019, 03:24:23 PM
You mean God's own country where you don't get rain, just liquid sunshine.😁

Deluded boy. At least we have the palm trees waving gently in the coastal breezes.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on August 12, 2019, 03:46:17 PM
Quote from: Malc on August 12, 2019, 03:20:30 PM
You are still on the wrong side of the Pennines though. The prevailing winds are the westerlies from the Atlantic, bringing rain and dropping it on you!

You mean the prevailing westerlies drop what's left on Mick, after they have finished dumping a load on us in Ireland first!  :)  (Guess what the weather is like at the moment).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on August 12, 2019, 11:54:58 PM
From experience, my wife always says that whatever weather we get, Ireland gets, but more extreme.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on August 13, 2019, 07:41:23 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on August 12, 2019, 03:32:53 PM
Quote from: Malc on August 12, 2019, 03:24:23 PM
You mean God's own country where you don't get rain, just liquid sunshine.😁

Deluded boy. At least we have the palm trees waving gently in the coastal breezes.

Like this at me daughter's wedding, I guess.  ;)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/77/255-290519043134-77873495.jpeg)

By the way, I was always told the Seathewaite in Borrowdale was the wettest place in England.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 13, 2019, 08:02:05 AM
george


Image result for wettest place in englandnews.bbc.co.uk
Seathwaite is the wettest inhabited place in England and receives around 3,552 millimetres (140 in) of rain per year.according to wiki. who told you that ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on August 13, 2019, 08:15:42 AM
My university lecturer when I was standing there getting peed on during a 1971 geology field trip  :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 13, 2019, 08:24:44 AM
Ah ok field trips those were the days. Always thought lancashire v yorkshire weather and annual school field trips i hated did it for me same old rain all day
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 14, 2019, 09:52:56 AM
Quote from: Bealman on August 13, 2019, 08:15:42 AM
My university lecturer when I was standing there getting peed on during a 1971 geology field trip  :uneasy:
I was at Staithes doing a geology field trip, standing on the beach in the pouring rain. I made copious notes in my field book only to find, when I got back to the uni, that  the rain had washed the entire book clean.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on August 14, 2019, 10:31:51 AM
I hope you did what I did....

I was flatting in Stockton with a bloke a year in front of me, who'd done the same trip.

I shouted him a few beers and he let me copy his entire folder from the trip!  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on August 14, 2019, 10:47:13 AM
Quote from: Malc on August 14, 2019, 09:52:56 AM
Quote from: Bealman on August 13, 2019, 08:15:42 AM
My university lecturer when I was standing there getting peed on during a 1971 geology field trip  :uneasy:
I was at Staithes doing a geology field trip, standing on the beach in the pouring rain. I made copious notes in my field book only to find, when I got back to the uni, that  the rain had washed the entire book clean.

should have used an indelible pencil  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on August 14, 2019, 11:08:15 AM
Wouldn't have made much difference to me, because I was either getting over the night before,  or getting started on the next  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 14, 2019, 12:00:27 PM
We did just that George. A couple of beers in the union bar and problem got sorted.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 14, 2019, 04:05:35 PM
Quote from: Malc on August 14, 2019, 09:52:56 AM
Quote from: Bealman on August 13, 2019, 08:15:42 AM
My university lecturer when I was standing there getting peed on during a 1971 geology field trip  :uneasy:
I was at Staithes doing a geology field trip, standing on the beach in the pouring rain. I made copious notes in my field book only to find, when I got back to the uni, that  the rain had washed the entire book clean.

Don't tell me. The next excuse in your book was 'the dog ate my coursework' :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on August 14, 2019, 05:50:03 PM
Quote from: Bealman on August 13, 2019, 08:15:42 AM
My university lecturer when I was standing there getting peed on during a 1971 geology field trip  :uneasy:
Was that some sort of initiation ceremony
:smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on August 15, 2019, 08:06:21 AM
Feeling rather let down ( >:D) by the council today.

Having fixed my third puncture of the year (or had Halfords fix it, I am lazy) on Monday I was absolutely  :'( to find the same wheel flat on my bike upon leaving work yesterday.

Detailed inspection (requested) by Halfords man revealed ANOTHER thorn in the tire. After getting "slime" installed in the tube (why I wasn't offered that on Monday or even the first two times earlier this year is beyond me) I am back on the road.

Well I say road but I mean cycle path. I am blessed to have cycle paths for 90% of my journey, but seeing as the council goons seem to insist of spreading sharp vegetation all over them it seems the road would be less expensive  :'(

Anybody wanna by a Class 57 Thunderbird to keep me in inner tubes?!

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: JBQFC on August 15, 2019, 07:53:31 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on August 15, 2019, 08:06:21 AM
Feeling rather let down ( >:D) by the council today.

Having fixed my third puncture of the year (or had Halfords fix it, I am lazy) on Monday I was absolutely  :'( to find the same wheel flat on my bike upon leaving work yesterday.

Detailed inspection (requested) by Halfords man revealed ANOTHER thorn in the tire. After getting "slime" installed in the tube (why I wasn't offered that on Monday or even the first two times earlier this year is beyond me) I am back on the road.

Well I say road but I mean cycle path. I am blessed to have cycle paths for 90% of my journey, but seeing as the council goons seem to insist of spreading sharp vegetation all over them it seems the road would be less expensive  :'(

Anybody wanna by a Class 57 Thunderbird to keep me in inner tubes?!

Skyline2uk

get some tyre liners they work wonders but don't get the very cheap ones are they can bit a bit stiff and puncture your tyre
i use these Zefal ones

John
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on August 17, 2019, 11:15:06 PM
Today is our son's 16th Birthday and he wanted to upgrade his computer, so I bought him a new motherboard, processor and ram. I checked on the shop's website for compatibility and they referred to the manufacturer's website, where it confirmed that the motherboard and processor were compatible. On stripping out his old system and replacing the parts today, it wouldn't boot. It turns out that the information is incomplete and the processor is only compatible with the latest version of the bios and the shop's boards still only have the older bios - and of course you need a working processor to update the bios! Of course the shop is now closed 'til Monday and I am working long days Monday to Wednesday, before we go on a camping trip on Thursday. We don't come back until Tuesday night and I'll be working long days again for the rest of the week. So much for his birthday present :(

Just to make it worse, I'd actually looked carefully and chosen a board where the bios can be flashed from USB without a processor. I'd downloaded and read the manual before buying and it tells you how to do it. *Except* that page has apparently been copied from the manual for another board and the facilities for it don't exist on this one. Grrr!

On top of that, it has been an expensive weekend - his present, our wedding anniversary (he was born on our 1st), a family meal out for 9, two new tyres on the car, the microwave has broken and I've received a letter from HMRC wanting £519 off me immediately, despite them giving me a refund of over £650 last month!?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on August 18, 2019, 09:46:26 AM
HMRC, like the good lord, Giveth and taketh  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on August 18, 2019, 09:49:48 AM
Quote from: class37025 on August 18, 2019, 09:46:26 AM
HMRC, like the good lord, Giveth and taketh  :'(

I'm trying to figure out when the back they giveth.

???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Kokuma on August 23, 2019, 08:35:29 AM
they may giveth but they sure as hell taketh a lot more!  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on August 23, 2019, 11:28:35 AM
Quote from: JBQFC on August 15, 2019, 07:53:31 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on August 15, 2019, 08:06:21 AM
Feeling rather let down ( >:D) by the council today.

Having fixed my third puncture of the year (or had Halfords fix it, I am lazy) on Monday I was absolutely  :'( to find the same wheel flat on my bike upon leaving work yesterday.

Detailed inspection (requested) by Halfords man revealed ANOTHER thorn in the tire. After getting "slime" installed in the tube (why I wasn't offered that on Monday or even the first two times earlier this year is beyond me) I am back on the road.

Well I say road but I mean cycle path. I am blessed to have cycle paths for 90% of my journey, but seeing as the council goons seem to insist of spreading sharp vegetation all over them it seems the road would be less expensive  :'(

Anybody wanna by a Class 57 Thunderbird to keep me in inner tubes?!

Skyline2uk

get some tyre liners they work wonders but don't get the very cheap ones are they can bit a bit stiff and puncture your tyre
i use these Zefal ones

John
I wish i could get liners for the  tyres on my Lawn jungle mower, I have to make do with the slime..
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NinOz on September 03, 2019, 06:00:59 AM
Is a tyre liner what we in oz call an inner-tube (inflatable rubber ring)?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 05, 2019, 12:29:44 PM
Don't you just hate it when you order something and pay via paypal, only to then be told the items were not in stock. Sorry, but if you have a website customers should able to see something is not available and so not be able to order. Very disappointing and am not a happy bunny >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on September 05, 2019, 12:46:17 PM
I think I just ordered and paid for something from bangood which isn't in stock.  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on September 09, 2019, 10:33:06 AM
ebay help. Need I say more(!)? :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NScaleNotes on September 09, 2019, 10:42:13 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on September 05, 2019, 12:29:44 PM
Don't you just hate it when you order something and pay via paypal, only to then be told the items were not in stock. Sorry, but if you have a website customers should able to see something is not available and so not be able to order. Very disappointing and am not a happy bunny >:(

Yeah, it stings even more when you pay for next day delivery because you need it quickly too.  :veryangry:
Must see if I can get a refund on the delivery for the items I ordered.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on September 09, 2019, 10:50:59 AM
I'm old fashioned.

It's basically old fashioned mail order from those catalogues, brought up to date, for heaven's sake! Can't people wait anymore?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NScaleNotes on September 09, 2019, 12:31:24 PM
Quote from: Bealman on September 09, 2019, 10:50:59 AM
It's basically old fashioned mail order from those catalogues, brought up to date, for heaven's sake! Can't people wait anymore?

Well that's me told then  :confused2:  :D

Sometimes you need something quickly, normally I'm happy to wait and don't expect too much but... I think it's similar to needing something urgently and phoning a distant bricks and mortar place that tells you they have it in stock, then traveling out there only to be told on arrival they don't actually have it. That's all we're saying.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 09, 2019, 01:39:05 PM
Quote from: Bealman on September 09, 2019, 10:50:59 AM
I'm old fashioned.


We know.

Quote from: Bealman on September 09, 2019, 10:50:59 AM
for heaven's sake! Can't people wait anymore?


Sometimes, but why should you wait if you have paid for an offered quicker service.
At least, that's what the nice lady down Preston Docks told me last night

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on September 09, 2019, 01:42:42 PM
"At least, that's what the nice lady down Preston Docks told me last night"

hope you were careful, wouldn't want you falling in ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 09, 2019, 02:05:01 PM
And if anyone on the forum won on a Fleabay bid for 2 Dapol fish vans last night - we hates you, don't we, precioussssss >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: honestjudge on September 10, 2019, 12:42:42 AM
I just settled a dispute today.

Ordered some bargain wagons (specials) from a well known manufacturer the other month which weeks later never arrived. I contacted them asking when/ if they sent them.
" yes they have gone out, check with your sorting office" came the reply from the company.

"Need a tracking number" said the sorting office

I contacted the well known company again requesting a tracking number so I could follow things up at this end but this time never got a reply from them.

After a few days I contacted Paypal and opened a case. The short of it was that the company had never actually sent the items out, probably some distribution mistake.  I got my refund, but I am a bit disappointed that it needed me to go down this avenue when if the company had looked into this matter  when I first contacted them we could have got to the bottom of this.

I did notice the companys policy states they are not liable if things get lost during shipping, I wonder if this has ever been tested?

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 10, 2019, 09:58:44 AM
Quote from: honestjudge on September 10, 2019, 12:42:42 AM

I did notice the companys policy states they are not liable if things get lost during shipping, I wonder if this has ever been tested?

Unless they could prove via the Royal Mail or courier they had sent it I'm not sure they'd get away with that. It would be their word against yours and would probably end up in the small claims court.

On a separate note, I can see why I hardly ever buy from Fleabay as I'm being bombarded with follow up mails saying I missed out on the fish vans 'but we're sending you other similar items you may be interested in.' Yeah right. There's nothing similar at all needless to say ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on September 10, 2019, 11:58:56 AM
I may be wrong, but I believe when you buy through the internet, the contract is that you pay for the item and the supplier supplies it to you. If it is lost in transit, the supplier has not complied with the contract as it has not been supplied to you and they would have to take the matter up with the delivery company. I have noticed that a few companies state that you should insure the delivery, but this should not be necessary.

@Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)
I think there is a facility Mick to stop these sort of emails. Will have to check later.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Nick on September 10, 2019, 12:08:07 PM
Quote from: honestjudge on September 10, 2019, 12:42:42 AMI did notice the company's policy states they are not liable if things get lost during shipping, I wonder if this has ever been tested?
My understanding is that under the Consumer Rights Act 2015 (http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/15/contents/enacted), S29(2):

The goods remain at the trader's risk until they come into the physical possession of—
(a)the consumer, or
(b)a person identified by the consumer to take possession of the goods.


I don't think that can be overridden by T's & C's. In a commercial contract, absolutely, but not in a consumer one. The only "out" appears to be if the consumer has arranged carriage by a carrier not suggested by the trader. Which is fair enough.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on September 29, 2019, 01:42:02 PM
is it me, or is there a growing trend towards bad manners ?

recently a member PM'd me to see if I still had some locos for sale, initially for one loco, then for four.

I sent him the list of what was available, and explained the costing, and said I'd check once I knew exactly which he wanted.

no reply though he was on and off line several times, and had showed as checking his messages.

after a couple of days of this, I again PMd him asking if he was still interested, or if the cost was too much.

after a couple more days of him on and off line and no response I decided that he just couldn't be bothered, and deleted his PMs.

an isolated incident ?

not really.

during my recent sale of stock and locos, one member requested photos of a loco, then nothing more heard, and two members requested specific items, one freight stock and the other mk.1s, but once lists sent of what was available, nothing heard.

am I expecting too much to get a reply, even if only of 'sorry, changed my mind / too expensive / etc' or is this the general level of manners to be expected these days ?

:veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on September 29, 2019, 01:52:57 PM
Quote from: class37025 on September 29, 2019, 01:42:02 PM

am I expecting too much to get a reply,

Not at all. If somebody contacts me, either on the forum or in life in general, I make a point of at the very least, acknowledging that contact. If I have to contact a seller of something I have bought or am thinking of buying and they acknowledge my contact, I then make a point of letting them know that the item has arrived. As I was taught - manners cost nowt.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 29, 2019, 04:30:42 PM
Quote from: class37025 on September 29, 2019, 01:42:02 PM
is this the general level of manners to be expected these days ?


I'd like to think not but you and I are are pretty much 'old school' where politeness was a natural response and passed down by family, teachers etc. Even if dirt was being dished out it was done in a certain polite way :)
'Do as you would be done by' is not a bad mantra to live by.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Nick on September 29, 2019, 05:20:23 PM
Quote from: class37025 on September 29, 2019, 01:42:02 PMam I expecting too much to get a reply, even if only of 'sorry, changed my mind / too expensive / etc' or is this the general level of manners to be expected these days ?
This drives me up the perishing wall, it really does. And it seems to be getting worse. It's happening regularly with business emails - I ask client  contacts for information that they have to supply to me or I can't give them what they are paying me for, and I receive no response. I don't know whether the email is lost in the ether, they are sick or on holiday or just too busy. "Thanks, Nick, I'll get round to that next week" would be fine. I'd know where I was.

Worst of all is asking Americans for something problematic. If they can't answer positively, they just go dark. For weeks sometimes. All I can think is it's a unwillingness in US business culture to admit failure.
Grrr.  :headbutt:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on September 29, 2019, 05:37:36 PM
Quoteam I expecting too much to get a reply, even if only of 'sorry, changed my mind / too expensive / etc' or is this the general level of manners to be expected these days ?

I am afraid this is the way of things now.

It's known as "Ghosting" and places like Gumtree are rife with it. Person contacts you asking if the item is still for sale and you answer "yes" and never hear from them again. Sometimes they get as far as asking where you are but then.....

Worst of all is tradesman / women.

I am trying to PAY for a service, but there is no sentence that fills me with dread more than "leave your phone number and we will call back".

:veryangry:

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jon898 on September 29, 2019, 05:40:12 PM
Quote from: class37025 on September 29, 2019, 01:42:02 PM

am I expecting too much to get a reply, even if only of 'sorry, changed my mind / too expensive / etc' or is this the general level of manners to be expected these days ?

:veryangry:

You should expect a reply, but also should not be surprised if you don't get one.

One thing I've noticed is that many (maybe most?) people are using their "phones" to scan emails and other communications.  Once they've done that and unless they reply immediately, the message is lost into the miasma of newer messages and cannot be found ever again.  I suspect this is happening more and more as the (anti)social media trend continues to grow.

Just speculation on my part...

Jon
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on September 29, 2019, 06:03:02 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on September 29, 2019, 05:37:36 PM
Quoteam I expecting too much to get a reply, even if only of 'sorry, changed my mind / too expensive / etc' or is this the general level of manners to be expected these days ?

I am afraid this is the way of things now.

It's known as "Ghosting" and places like Gumtree are rife with it. Person contacts you asking if the item is still for sale and you answer "yes" and never hear from them again. Sometimes they get as far as asking where you are but then.....

Worst of all is tradesman / women.

I am trying to PAY for a service, but there is no sentence that fills me with dread more than "leave your phone number and we will call back".

:veryangry:

Skyline2uk

On the tradesman front allow me to defend a little.

I used to get calls on the landline, they'd leave a message and I'd respond.

Now, I get calls on the landline and the mobile. Probably 70% are sales/scam calls where they've gleaned my information from the web, but the telephone numbers look like local numbers or mobiles. I used to answer all calls immediately, but found it felt like the phone was never out of my hand, affecting my work rate. So I let the answerphone/s take it. You listen the call and it just says this is 'abc' please call me on '123'. Some of these are sales/scam calls. It gets wearing and time consuming answering these.

If the person has left name, number, brief description of requirements and location they'll get called reasonably promptly.

Then you're getting email enquiries, text enquiries, WhatsApp enquiries. In amongst all this you actually have to find time to call these people, some of whom chat for an hour about nothing, visit people to have a look at jobs, write quotes, eat a meal, breathe and occasionally talk to the wife.

It's a constant battle to sort the wheat from the chaff. I'll be the first to admit I prioritise regular clients and those leads that sound the most promising. I won't call people after 9pm, because they don't answer, inevitably some people don't get called for a few days, sometimes a week or so. People get missed, and some get forgotten. Sorry, I'm only human.

In an ideal world I'd have a secretary, but I can't afford it.

Please don't be too harsh on us.

:'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on September 29, 2019, 06:21:07 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on September 29, 2019, 06:03:02 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on September 29, 2019, 05:37:36 PM
Quoteam I expecting too much to get a reply, even if only of 'sorry, changed my mind / too expensive / etc' or is this the general level of manners to be expected these days ?

I am afraid this is the way of things now.

It's known as "Ghosting" and places like Gumtree are rife with it. Person contacts you asking if the item is still for sale and you answer "yes" and never hear from them again. Sometimes they get as far as asking where you are but then.....

Worst of all is tradesman / women.

I am trying to PAY for a service, but there is no sentence that fills me with dread more than "leave your phone number and we will call back".

:veryangry:

Skyline2uk

On the tradesman front allow me to defend a little.

I used to get calls on the landline, they'd leave a message and I'd respond.

Now, I get calls on the landline and the mobile. Probably 70% are sales/scam calls where they've gleaned my information from the web, but the telephone numbers look like local numbers or mobiles. I used to answer all calls immediately, but found it felt like the phone was never out of my hand, affecting my work rate. So I let the answerphone/s take it. You listen the call and it just says this is 'abc' please call me on '123'. Some of these are sales/scam calls. It gets wearing and time consuming answering these.

If the person has left name, number, brief description of requirements and location they'll get called reasonably promptly.

Then you're getting email enquiries, text enquiries, WhatsApp enquiries. In amongst all this you actually have to find time to call these people, some of whom chat for an hour about nothing, visit people to have a look at jobs, write quotes, eat a meal, breathe and occasionally talk to the wife.

It's a constant battle to sort the wheat from the chaff. I'll be the first to admit I prioritise regular clients and those leads that sound the most promising. I won't call people after 9pm, because they don't answer, inevitably some people don't get called for a few days, sometimes a week or so. People get missed, and some get forgotten. Sorry, I'm only human.

In an ideal world I'd have a secretary, but I can't afford it.

Please don't be too harsh on us.

:'(

@emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604)

That's all very understandable.

But what I was referring to was when I actually speak to a person, not a machine.

That person then promises to call back by x time.

9/10 that never happens and I give them 1 extra day and then ring somebody else.

I am sorry but why commit if you can do it?

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Nick on September 30, 2019, 11:52:51 AM
Quote from: Jon898 on September 29, 2019, 05:40:12 PMOne thing I've noticed is that many (maybe most?) people are using their "phones" to scan emails and other communications.  Once they've done that and unless they reply immediately, the message is lost into the miasma of newer messages and cannot be found ever again.  I suspect this is happening more and more as the (anti)social media trend continues to grow.
It is. Another side effect of people checking emails on their phones that I've noticed is that many don't read beyond the first screen. They never read what scrolls off the bottom. You have to write emails as though they were tweets to get through to these people.

Which is a slight problem as not every idea fits in 280 characters... :headbutt:


Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 25, 2019, 05:02:57 PM
 :censored: Met Office .................

had no.3 grandson with us this afternoon, thought I'd stick him in his buggy and walk him down to Tescos to get a few supplies  :beers:

so checked the Met office forecast for here, and less than 5% chance of rain ...... :thumbsup:

came out of Tescos and it was sheeting down .... :help:

do these idiots not look out of their windows ?

first job when I left school in '62 was as a TSA at what was then the Air Ministry Met Office.....
RAF Upavon for my interview, and a few days later letter to say I had been accepted and to report to RAF Lyneham on such and such date  :bounce:

there I was shown how to plot maps for the forecasters, and how to take, and send, observations.

ok the water babies [rock apes in big red things that squirted water and foam] played a few tricks on the new boy..

next was a course at Stanmore where I was taught what was needed to build on what I had been shown at Lyneham, and on passing the course posted to Central Forecasting Office, at Bracknell.

there I spent my life plotting maps, which were then used by the forcasters .

after a few months I was transferred to the Long Range Forecast dept, where our forecasters produced 5 day and 30 day forecasts.

think I must be looking through rose coloured specs, cause I remember them being pretty accurate ...

but of course we had ex corvettes out in the Atlantic taking obs, and Hastings a/c flying Met Recce flights, and the computer took up a whole floor, and was fed info on punched tape ..... not satellites and laptops

now it seems it's Met.Office.co.uk, and they can't even say what the weather is now, let alone tomorrow.

but no doubt they make a profit.

just hope the forces don't have to rely on them  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 29, 2019, 10:23:02 PM
I am speaking to you now from my in laws house.

Skyline family temporarily re-located as chez skyline is without a functioning boiler.

Said boiler was given a clean bill of health a couple of weeks back by our trusted heating engineer during its annual service.

Said boiler was working perfectly this morning when I woke up.

This afternoon an "expert" (according the the leaflet he left behind) fitted a smart meter.

Said boiler is now broken.

:veryangry:

Our engineer very kindly has arranged to be at ours first thing tomorrow, and I will be sending his bill directly to our energy supplier. I won't name them as I have until now been happy with them and will give them the chance to make things right. Having had a brief look I suspect the "expert" (Ape) has broken the on/off knob.

Such is modern life.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on October 30, 2019, 02:06:32 AM
That sucks mate.

I'm afraid I've flatly refused to have a smart meter fitted. I'm a qualified electrician with a three year apprenticeship, an HNC in electrical engineering, and thirty years of experience. I am NOT legally allowed to do anything to do with the meter.

But...

... they (the energy companies) are allowed to stick some person on a two week course and then let them loose interfering with everybody's meters. Fine if there's absolutely no problems, but they have no knowledge to deal with problems.

I've told our energy supplier they can fit a meter when they send out a fully qualified electrical engineer.

I hope they get it sorted soon bloke.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on October 30, 2019, 07:42:01 AM
QuoteI'm afraid I've flatly refused to have a smart meter fitted.
same here, ive  similar  bits of paper as you,but my  reason is  more to do with them being able to measure the power factor of your load and charge accordingly, suddenly that LED lamp with a capacitor dropper that claims to draw 10w of power is being charged as  20w.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 30, 2019, 08:18:38 AM
Update

Our engineer is on site and has diagnosed what I suspected: Broken power switch on the boiler.

So in conclusion: Meter "expert" cannot work an on / off switch  :doh:

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on October 30, 2019, 09:06:43 AM
I won't have a smart meter until they stop rolling out the Mk1s. They don't always work if you swap suppliers. Mk2s do.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on October 30, 2019, 09:51:58 AM
Oh my word.

I think I must have smuggled the same issues with me when I came here!

Good to know these problems are global, well, makes me feel a bit better, anyway  :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 30, 2019, 09:59:22 AM

Well the boiler is humming again and a detailed invoice (our bloke is a clever chap who spares no technical detail) will now be presented to the Energy company.

I fully intend to get my £90 back!

Quote from: Malc on October 30, 2019, 09:06:43 AM
I won't have a smart meter until they stop rolling out the Mk1s. They don't always work if you swap suppliers. Mk2s do.

Yes I was taking this view as well, relented (now regret) because was offered a very cheap deal.

I am told software upgrades to Mk1s are now possible meaning they can switch suppliers.

We shall see if I have to!

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 30, 2019, 11:01:46 AM
I had smart meters fitted when they were first offered. Don't know why. Perhaps I was a bit lonely that day and wanted someone to talk to :hmmm:
Gas one was duff and registered no gas usage for the 1st year. They didn't note that and I only found out when I got their annual bill so I had a years gas for free (that was 4 years ago)
:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 30, 2019, 12:51:02 PM
So here is my final update for the time being (won't keep bothering the thread!):

Energy company are holding on to anonymity, just, as they have committed to a resolution by 06/11/2019. If they sort it I won't "name and shame".

They are currently going off to have a word with the sub-contractor who did the damage.

Overall the complaint process was ok, but...

Some gripes:

1) Phone the "complaints" line to get a robot who asks me to tell him my account number, doesn't understand and then after I type it in finds my account based on my phone number  ???

2) Said robot then lists off some options, none of which are relevant.

3) Try a different number, negotiate the same robot (must be on overtime) and finally get a human.

Human takes details, promises to pass on complaint to "field resolution team", and call me back (sigh).

Human calls me back, tick.

Human passes me in to field resolution human who mercifully has a better phone line, who confirms details and requests invoice from my engineer.

During conversation makes a frankly bizarre statement:

"Of course switches are like light bulbs, they can go at any time"

Erm

No they can't! Besides, this one was broken in half, so let's get that loophole avoided right now...

Anyway, I have some hope they are taking this sort of seriously...

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on October 31, 2019, 12:01:30 AM
I hate those automated answer systems. I found that if you press an option that isn't offered, or don't press anything at all, it often defaults to a human.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on October 31, 2019, 12:33:35 AM
Quote from: Malc on October 31, 2019, 12:01:30 AM
I hate those automated answer systems. I found that if you press an option that isn't offered, or don't press anything at all, it often defaults to a human.

They used to, unfortunately the manufacturers realised that the smart 'public' were bypassing the system by just going silent and a lot of them now if you don't press a valid answer within a certain timeframe just cut you off.

:veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on October 31, 2019, 12:34:02 AM
"Switches are like light bulbs, they can go at anytime"

What a crock of  :poop:

Just like you and me then  ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 31, 2019, 12:23:34 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on October 31, 2019, 12:33:35 AM
Quote from: Malc on October 31, 2019, 12:01:30 AM
I hate those automated answer systems. I found that if you press an option that isn't offered, or don't press anything at all, it often defaults to a human.

They used to, unfortunately the manufacturers realised that the smart 'public' were bypassing the system by just going silent and a lot of them now if you don't press a valid answer within a certain timeframe just cut you off.

:veryangry:

I find a lot of the time the 'thing' says "I'm sorry. I didn't catch that" and gives you all the bloody options again :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 31, 2019, 12:26:42 PM
Mick, that's exactly what this one did, but then added "or alternatively use your keypad".

Why that wasn't the first option I will never know.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: woodbury22uk on October 31, 2019, 01:02:56 PM
The postman just delivered a letter from my bank. It said a cheque I paid yesterday could not be honoured because the Payee name did not match the name of my account. The irony is that the salutation in the letter used exactly the Payee name on the cheque, although not the account name.

Full marks for sending the letter quickly but the human who was involved in the process somewhere wasn't paying attention.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 31, 2019, 03:22:29 PM
about what you'd expect from bankers  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on October 31, 2019, 03:38:14 PM
Quote from: class37025 on October 31, 2019, 03:22:29 PM
about what you'd expect from bankers  >:(

Is that cockney rhyming slang?  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on October 31, 2019, 03:42:30 PM
A few years back my wife and I were having trouble reconciling our respective business accounts. Eventually we discovered that I'd accidentally paid in one of my wife's business cheques into my business account. There's absolutely no common words between our company names and the transaction was done at a Barclays bank over the counter.

I think they sometimes struggle with due diligence.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 31, 2019, 03:59:17 PM
I seem to be on this thread a lot atm...

But just to add to the names on cheques debate; post wedding my wife and I have the exact same initials.

Makes it easy for people to make out cheques to the joint account  ;D

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 31, 2019, 04:43:50 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on October 31, 2019, 03:59:17 PM
I seem to be on this thread a lot atm...

But just to add to the names on cheques debate; post wedding my with and I have the exact same initials.

Makes it easy for people to make out cheques to the joint account  ;D

Skyline2uk

You married a 'with'?!!??!!
What's it like - nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no more?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 31, 2019, 05:21:55 PM
Quote from: TrevL on October 31, 2019, 03:38:14 PM
Quote from: class37025 on October 31, 2019, 03:22:29 PM
about what you'd expect from bankers  >:(

Is that cockney rhyming slang?  ;)

yes, last time I got put on report, even though I used *****
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 31, 2019, 05:45:56 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on October 31, 2019, 04:43:50 PM

You married a 'with'?!!??!!


As long as he did not marry a 'without'!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on October 31, 2019, 06:06:44 PM
In my first place of employment, there was reputedly someone who was both 'with' and 'without'.

To this day I have no idea how that works.

:confused2:

I'd just like to add, before someone tries to elucidate, I really DO NOT want to know!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on October 31, 2019, 06:13:15 PM
Back in the 1970s a bank clerk issued one of my mums cheque books,  to someone else "just cross the incorrect initials out" he said.
In those days with that bank,  you collected your cheque book from your bank branch. The clerk then proceeded to cash cheques on several occasions..
It took some time together sorted out....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 31, 2019, 06:16:17 PM
Auto correct is going to get me in serious trouble one day....

"With" doesn't read the forum though.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on November 05, 2019, 01:15:35 PM
 :veryangry:

Eon

:veryangry:

Company now gets a name and shame as, I am sorry, when I receive two missed calls, a text and an e-Mail (both the latter saying "please get in touch so we can resolve your complaint").....I do not expect to call them back and be told:

Sub-contractor disputes your side of events

?!??!?

So now I have to wait another 5 days for escalation, even with it marked as "priority".

I informed Eon that they are lucky they are not incurring a bill for accommodating my 10 month old son in a suitably warm hotel (stayed at in laws for the night).

If they, or their sub contractor think I am going to be £90 worse of after they vandalise my newly serviced boiler just to install a  :censored: smart meter.....

Well they haven't been on the end of one of my "special" letters.

Skyline2uk

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 05, 2019, 03:00:36 PM
Security gone mad in this digital age?
I do online banking and have an entry reference number, a code and a password but it seems that's not enough. Now every time I try to log on they send me a code to my mobile phone I have to use to do anything. I live in an area shocking for mobile networks and my mobile hardly works at home so I have to remember to turn my mobile on and wait for their code before proceeding.
Now paypal have forced me to give them my mobile number before I can log on and, having given it them, they then sent me a code to my mobile for verification.

We all like to be secure and the world is full of scammers but a lot of this digital age is just a PITA to an old scrote like me ::) >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 05, 2019, 03:20:11 PM
I know exactly what you mean Mick. The two banks I use both require a code and a reference number, then 3 digits from my 11 digit password. 50% of the time I then have to wait for a code to be sent to my mobile so I can input that. As you say, we all like to feel secure but .....
Apparently it is to do with some new directive, (from Europe?) -

"Important Information
Effective from 23 October, we are introducing new security measures when completing certain transactions online. This is to meet the requirements of the new payments regulation, PSD2. For more information on this, please
"
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 05, 2019, 03:28:59 PM
You naughty man! :telloff:
I almost made a political post then :angel:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 05, 2019, 03:37:44 PM
Who me? I was only quoting what my Banks website says.   ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on November 05, 2019, 08:26:37 PM
Just today received an email about this two layer security,  from a prepayment card I have.  This gives up to 10% off at various  retailers  eg 5% off stuff at BQ  so it was worth having.

However as of today with no notice they have Introduced sending code to a mobile phone... Problem is I don't have one.. I now can't even get into the account..  So after a phone call I have £32 to spend in BQ then the account will be abandoned..

Meanwhile  that prompted to read up on my real credit card ( always paid off each month)  they've sent me a card reader.

So I insert the card into the reader and type in the pin. Press enter

The bank via website selling, will give me a 8 digit number I type into the reader , press enter.

The reader will give me another 8 digit number which is typed into the online website..

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 05, 2019, 09:26:26 PM
Yeah - I tried to make a bank transfer today to the guy whose stock I'm selling on the N'Porium and was told I need a card reader so now have to wait 7 days or whatever to get one. And they call this progress? ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on November 06, 2019, 07:20:34 AM
OTP's are a real pain and we also suffer from poor mobile signal and service. A text can take moments or actually hours to be delivered.

There have been a number of times when a transaction has timed out due to non receipt of the OTP.

Yes, it's down to a European directive.

I've told to write to my MP about poor BB and mobile. Cannot understand why 'they' are banging on about the 5G generation when we can't get a decent 3G signal. Our mini exchange is just 2 miles down the road but it's 'not expected' we get fibre in the next 3 years!

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jpendle on November 06, 2019, 04:27:38 PM
Before everyone blames 'Europe'. I live in the US and 2 factor verification, i.e. sending a PIN to a mobile has been with us for a couple of years now.

At least my UK bank hasn't tried that yet!

What gets my goat is the increasing number of retailers in the UK who WILL NOT ACCEPT a foreign credit or debit card when purchasing things online.

This means that when pressies need to be bought for our grandchildren, we are either forced to use Amazon (or Hattons :D), or we have to transfer the money to our son's bank account so that he can buy the stuff on our behalf.

John P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on November 06, 2019, 05:20:57 PM
Quote from: jpendle on November 06, 2019, 04:27:38 PM
Before everyone blames 'Europe'. I live in the US and 2 factor verification, i.e. sending a PIN to a mobile has been with us for a couple of years now.

At least my UK bank hasn't tried that yet!

What gets my goat is the increasing number of retailers in the UK who WILL NOT ACCEPT a foreign credit or debit card when purchasing things online.

This means that when pressies need to be bought for our grandchildren, we are either forced to use Amazon (or Hattons :D), or we have to transfer the money to our son's bank account so that he can buy the stuff on our behalf.

John P

That cuts both ways. When we're in the US the petrol pumps won't accept UK credit cards, this means one of us has to go and pay and either top up payment or get a refund whilst the other is filling.

:veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on November 09, 2019, 11:30:20 AM
 :veryangry:

And, after two more phone calls from Eon this week, we are in deadlock and I am forced to get the Ombudsman involved.

Essentially the subcontractor involved (Morrisons) has put in a report that is a work of fiction and Eon say "it's your word against theirs".

Leaving aside a written report from my engineer and the now repeated "switch may have been faulty before Morrison's arrived" gumph, we have nowhere else to go.

It's going to take 8-10 days to get a letter to us to confirm deadlock, but that's still quicker than waiting 8 weeks (happens to fall on Christmas Day!) to get Ombudsman involved.

Seriously having trouble with Eon missing £90. Probably the biscuit budget.

Sigh

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on November 09, 2019, 02:04:06 PM
Hold the line mate. These idiots shouldn't be allowed to treat people like this.

We're all rooting for you.

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jpendle on November 09, 2019, 10:29:26 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on November 06, 2019, 05:20:57 PM
Quote from: jpendle on November 06, 2019, 04:27:38 PM
Before everyone blames 'Europe'. I live in the US and 2 factor verification, i.e. sending a PIN to a mobile has been with us for a couple of years now.

At least my UK bank hasn't tried that yet!

What gets my goat is the increasing number of retailers in the UK who WILL NOT ACCEPT a foreign credit or debit card when purchasing things online.

This means that when pressies need to be bought for our grandchildren, we are either forced to use Amazon (or Hattons :D), or we have to transfer the money to our son's bank account so that he can buy the stuff on our behalf.

John P

That cuts both ways. When we're in the US the petrol pumps won't accept UK credit cards, this means one of us has to go and pay and either top up payment or get a refund whilst the other is filling.

:veryangry:

Luxury, when I were a lad we had to get .......................

Anyhow, when in the UK we can use our credit cards at Tesco or Asda, but not our debit cards, BUT our debit cards work fine when we try to withdraw cash!!

John P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Chetcombe on November 09, 2019, 10:45:33 PM

I still have a GBP account with a debit card. Increasingly I have found that UK websites won't accept this card (which comes from a UK bank) because the address for the account is outside the UK :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on November 09, 2019, 10:57:16 PM
I should put this on the happy thread really, but seeing as the current discussion is financial, I'll put it here.

Mrs Bealman made an online investment a few months back, and reckoned she'd waved goodbye to a quite substantial amount of money.

She was getting phone calls in the night from UK numbers, and ended up having to change phone numbers, account numbers, and a lot of other stuff.

Anyway she provided all the details she could to the bank where her scammed account was, and lo and behold, they chased it up (don't ask me how - it intrigues me), and recovered all her money - from an account in Moscow!!!

As I say, this should really be in the happy thread  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Chetcombe on November 09, 2019, 11:05:03 PM
Quote from: Bealman on November 09, 2019, 10:57:16 PM
I should put this on the happy thread really, but seeing as the current discussion is financial, I'll put it here.

Mrs Bealman made an online investment a few months back, and reckoned she'd waved goodbye to a quite substantial amount of money.

She was getting phone calls in the night from UK numbers, and ended up having to change phone numbers, account numbers, and a lot of other stuff.

Anyway she provided all the details she could to the bank where her scammed account was, and lo and behold, they chased it up (don't ask me how - it intrigues me), and recovered all her money - from an account in Moscow!!!

As I say, this should really be in the happy thread  :beers:

Glad all was solved! I had my bank login and password hacked a few months back, but thankfully found it before my accounts were emptied and was able to get the bank to freeze everything. I logged into my account online to find the welcome page had changed to a Spanish language version and that my email and other details had been changed from within my account. I think both the hacker and I were online in my account at the same time!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on November 09, 2019, 11:09:18 PM
Gawd!!!  :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Chetcombe on November 09, 2019, 11:14:58 PM
Quote from: Bealman on November 09, 2019, 11:09:18 PM
Gawd!!!  :o

Stupidly I used the same login and password across several websites, so they also hijacked my Amazon account, my PayPal account, Facebook, the service I use to transfer money to the UK amongst others. Suffice to say, lessons were learned and I now have a different login and password for everything :dunce:

The only good news was that they didn't hack my NGF account!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on November 09, 2019, 11:24:00 PM
Triple Gawd!!!!

As you say, they never got to the important one  ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on November 11, 2019, 12:13:36 PM
I'm a member Quidco, of one of those discount online shopping schemes. I pay £5 a year and get discount offers for lots of online stores.

Today I've received an email announcing the 'AliExpress 11:11 Sale'. I cannot begin to describe my disgust at their using Remembrance Day as a marketing opportunity!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: woodbury22uk on November 11, 2019, 12:22:54 PM
Quote from: RailGooner on November 11, 2019, 12:13:36 PM
I'm a member Quidco, of one of those discount online shopping schemes. I pay £5 a year and get discount offers for lots of online stores.

Today I've received an email announcing the 'AliExpress 11:11 Sale'. I cannot begin to describe my disgust at their using Remembrance Day as a marketing opportunity!

Unsurprised to find that Sports Direct has an 11/11 sale.

https://my.sportsdirect.com/flash-sale

But 11/11 is also "singles day" in China so not necessarily related to Armistice commemorations in the AliExpress instance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singles%27_Day
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on November 11, 2019, 12:26:54 PM
Mike, I didn't know about Singles' Day and you're probably right in linking it to that. :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Doltic on November 11, 2019, 07:33:53 PM
My provider is apparently incapable of linking my flat up to the world wide web - We've been trying to getting them to make it work since end of august - Now, 3 months later i'm still stuck with a darned 4G thing with limited bandwidth.

And they say the germans are efficent and everything.

I think it's time for me to send an armoured e-mail to their customer support.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on November 11, 2019, 07:47:44 PM
My heart bleeds for you, Doltic!  :no:

4G? We can just about get 3G and 35% of the time there's 'No Service' or 'Emergency Call Only'.

Likewise BB where our mini exchange is 2 miles away and BT won't consider installing any improvements over the 1950s copper for 'at least 3 years'. We are complaining about that!

Appreciate it must be frustrating when you learn of all the 5G wizard stuff you're missing but do think of us in the UK backwoods - 8 miles from the county city - that have to go up to the bathroom to get a mobile signal!  :veryangry:

Dave G

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 11, 2019, 08:42:22 PM
My landline is 12 miles from the nearest exchange. I once had an engineer to my house to see about broadband - he just laughed at me and said, "You've no chance". I have since cancelled the landline due to the number of faults. I now rely on a mobile dongle thingy which is not too bad during the day - not so good in an evening and it usually uses 3G. Still, I chose to live in a rural area. The Irish Government keep talking about a 'National Broadband Plan' - yeh right, I don't think it will be in my lifetime.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on November 12, 2019, 08:57:57 AM
Another one that has to go upstairs to the bathroom window to get the use of the mobile phone.. at least it has kept the smart meters away.

The land line however has been a surprise as we are 1 one of a total of 20 houses in the village, spread along 2 miles of road, and we are at the far end from the cabinet.
some years back a farmer cut the line to us, it's just buried 6 inches under the verge, and he cut a new entrance to a field..
I spoke to an engineer at the time and he said we had no chance even of getting broadband. as we were over 5  imiles from the exchange..

Then a couple of years later..
They dug a trench in the road all the way from the exchange to the next village, From there they put in a new line to a point where it diverges  off to another bigger village and put in an underground "node" about a mile away.. So now at home we have 27Meg broadband.

Here at work, we nominally have over 200Megs but of course with over 100 people in the factory thats not much each at times..

At work, yes I have long periods where I have to sit and not move or it changes the readings, hence I surf a lot while waiting.
Next reading 1.8999484 M ohms standard deviation 0.1ppm
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on November 12, 2019, 02:49:35 PM
Quote from: Doltic on November 11, 2019, 07:33:53 PM
My provider is apparently incapable of linking my flat up to the world wide web - We've been trying to getting them to make it work since end of august - Now, 3 months later i'm still stuck with a darned 4G thing with limited bandwidth.

And they say the germans are efficent and everything.

I dunno, my former Finanzamt (tax office) managed to track me down two moves away in Japan to send me a long letter admonishing me for not submitting a tax return, then an even longer letter telling me they'd done it for me and worked out they owed me money. Meanwhile some idiots seem hellbent on removing my right to return to live there for no good reason, which is a whole other story, on the other hand it's the kind of country where they turn up to install the optical fibre internet and apologise for the inconvenience of being early and it has just worked ever since.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Doltic on November 12, 2019, 02:55:14 PM
Quote from: railsquid on November 12, 2019, 02:49:35 PM

I dunno, my former Finanzamt (tax office) managed to track me down two moves away in Japan to send me a long letter admonishing me for not submitting a tax return, then an even longer letter telling me they'd done it for me and worked out they owed me money. Meanwhile some idiots seem hellbent on removing my right to return to live there for no good reason, which is a whole other story, on the other hand it's the kind of country where they turn up to install the optical fibre internet and apologise for the inconvenience of being early and it has just worked ever since.

This is a very german thing to do. I've lived here for the most part of my youth and it's a very interesting country.

Still, the internet issue is annoying me greatly. And I don't like the DB-type trains. Not enough stinky diesels.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on November 12, 2019, 03:04:15 PM
Quote from: Doltic on November 12, 2019, 02:55:14 PM
Quote from: railsquid on November 12, 2019, 02:49:35 PM

I dunno, my former Finanzamt (tax office) managed to track me down two moves away in Japan to send me a long letter admonishing me for not submitting a tax return, then an even longer letter telling me they'd done it for me and worked out they owed me money. Meanwhile some idiots seem hellbent on removing my right to return to live there for no good reason, which is a whole other story, on the other hand it's the kind of country where they turn up to install the optical fibre internet and apologise for the inconvenience of being early and it has just worked ever since.

This is a very german thing to do. I've lived here for the most part of my youth and it's a very interesting country.

Still, the internet issue is annoying me greatly. And I don't like the DB-type trains. Not enough stinky diesels.

For a few years in the 1990s I lived in an apartment overlooking the tracks next to Warschauer Strasse station in (former East) Berlin, and every afternoon around 4pm a Ludmilla would turn up and spend some time idling in direct view before taking a Talgo sleeper rake on what I presume was a circuitous journey to wherever it started its revenue service from (IIRC Bhf Zoo).

I was delighted to find stinky diesels still doing a similar job in 2014:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/8494/28797720453_25c4d3b851_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KSKQZB)
P1020950 (https://flic.kr/p/KSKQZB) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr


If it's any consolation I had to wait about 2 years to get an actual telephone line in said apartment, mind you that was before the internet was really a thing.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Doltic on November 12, 2019, 03:18:28 PM
Quote from: railsquid on November 12, 2019, 03:04:15 PM
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I was delighted to find stinky diesels still doing a similar job in 2014:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/8494/28797720453_25c4d3b851_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KSKQZB)
P1020950 (https://flic.kr/p/KSKQZB) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr


If it's any consolation I had to wait about 2 years to get an actual telephone line in said apartment, mind you that was before the internet was really a thing.

Stinky diesels are good!

Sadly not Deltics tho. Still, nice and stinky.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on November 13, 2019, 09:00:22 PM
Eon update:

Case raised with Ombudsman.

I am now after additional compensation, because Eon have let it get this far.

Honestly if they just resolved it on first complaint I would be signing their praises.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on November 13, 2019, 10:51:47 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on November 13, 2019, 09:00:22 PM
Eon update:

Case raised with Ombudsman.

I am now after additional compensation, because Eon have let it get this far.

Honestly if they just resolved it on first complaint I would be signing their praises.

Skyline2uk

Yes. More than once I have been happy to promote the virtues of companies to friends and family when they have dealt with problems or mistakes well - even more so than a company that I have not experienced any problem with! Equally, I have warned many people off companies that have failed to quickly resolve a problem of their making.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on November 19, 2019, 04:02:52 AM
Mrs Bealman is currently having a new kitchen put in at not inconsiderable expense.

Friday, delivery truck arrived with new fridge. Reckoned he couldn't get into the house, took it back to the warehouse.

Over weekend, I measured up, thought yes, I'll take sliding door off, and they can get it in the back.

They returned yesterday, got it in no problems. However, on unpacking, it was found to have been despatched from the factory with a huge dint in the door.

No worries, they were coming back today with a new one to swap it over.

Except when they turned up this arvo, someone had forgotten to put the new one in the truck....  :worried:

Ah well, there's always tomorrow, I guess :smackedface:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on November 19, 2019, 12:39:48 PM
Sounds like the plot for a Laurel and Hardy film, George.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on November 19, 2019, 12:44:37 PM
Quote from: Malc on November 19, 2019, 12:39:48 PM
Sounds like the plot for a Laurel and Hardy film, George.

Piano up the steps?  ;D

https://youtu.be/HEYl9EbvdN8

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: woodbury22uk on November 19, 2019, 01:01:14 PM
Next up Flanders & Swann "The Gasman commeth"

https://youtu.be/zyeMFSzPgGc

followed by "on the slow train" to keep to a rail theme

https://youtu.be/U6OHD2uCpfU

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on November 19, 2019, 01:20:44 PM
Quote from: woodbury22uk on November 19, 2019, 01:01:14 PM
Next up Flanders & Swann "The Gasman commeth"

https://youtu.be/zyeMFSzPgGc

followed by "on the slow train" to keep to a rail theme

https://youtu.be/U6OHD2uCpfU


Both classics. I remember Swan telling a story about leaving Flanders asleep in his wheelchair outside the newsagent while he bought some matches. When he came out Flanders had some money in his lap. It was near bonfire night and penny for the guy was popular.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on November 19, 2019, 05:58:33 PM
Quote from: Malc on November 19, 2019, 01:20:44 PM
Both classics. I remember Swan telling a story about leaving Flanders asleep in his wheelchair outside the newsagent while he bought some matches. When he came out Flanders had some money in his lap. It was near bonfire night and penny for the guy was popular.

Reminds me of an episode of "till death us do part" when Alf Garnett fell asleep in a wheel chair and some kids dressed him up as a guy😊
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on November 20, 2019, 08:56:18 AM
Just saw some Attenborough show about Australia.

Flying foxes - bats!!!

Pests!

Nested in a tree above our house, shat all over the roof,and stunk like hell.

Removing the tree cost $1800.

Stuff that show!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on November 20, 2019, 12:20:36 PM
You're lucky you can do that , in the UK bats are protected Species, you'd not be allowed to chop the tree down..
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 21, 2019, 06:18:23 PM
As I buy a lot of my stuff on line and as some individuals/companies charge exharb xorbit eckshor silly money to post to Ireland, I use a forwarding service, whereby I can use a specific UK address and the item is then forwarded to my local Post office for me to collect at a reasonable fee. As the Post Office is now located in the shop where Louisa works, this is a perfect way for me to get my parcels. A parcel was sent to me by Mick of this parish, (thank you @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) ). I specifically asked Mick to quote my reference number which he did. The forwarding company can be a bit awkward if the ref. no. and address are not spot on. My parcel had a sticker on it saying my name had not been quoted correctly. After a while I realised what Mick had done wrong - he had addressed the parcel formally, ie Mr. D. Kay. What is wrong with that? It then dawned on me - the parcel should have been addressed to Mr. David Kay!!!!  If using the service was not to my benefit, I would tell the company where to put their  :censored: service.  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on November 21, 2019, 06:24:11 PM
I was toying with clicking the 'funny' emoji - it's stupid funny IYKWIM.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on November 21, 2019, 06:26:31 PM
Quote from: RailGooner on November 21, 2019, 06:24:11 PM
I was toying with clicking the 'funny' emoji - it's stupid funny IYKWIM.

Ridiculously, absurdly, stupidly funny, you mean.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 21, 2019, 06:34:56 PM
Whilst being annoyed with the company, I must admit that the 'stupidity' of the situation is quite funny. I can understand the company being annoyed if my reference number was  not correct, as they then would have to find me in their system, but when  the sender uses my initial and correct surname, I can not understand what the problem is. Incidentally, prior to the new 'the name/address is wrong' labels, they used to put a sticker on asking me to, in future, put the correct name/address. Err ..... short of sending an email or something to every one who sends me something, how can I make sure the name/address is quoted correctly?  I am going to have a coffee, this subject is really starting to annoy me now!  ;)

Addit: Whilst drinking my coffee, I have sent off an email asking why my full name is acceptable, but an initial is not.  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 21, 2019, 09:33:05 PM
Damned pedants ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on November 21, 2019, 10:06:10 PM
Why don't they simply make the reference number unique to the person, but include the Eircode of your local post-office as part of that reference number? That'd identify it as a package for you and tell An Post where to deliver it, all in one go!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 21, 2019, 10:12:03 PM
That is one of the things that is so annoying - the reference number IS unique to me!  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on November 21, 2019, 10:34:56 PM
I got that it was unique to you, however they presumably are using the (has to be perfect) address for delivery. If the Eircode of your chosen post-office was part of that unique id, then they could deliver it without any further information.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 22, 2019, 12:11:13 PM
I understand what you are saying Steve and, as every individual address in Ireland has a unique Eircode, what you say makes sense. However, I have already received a reply to my email and what they basically say is that they need the full name in case the reference number is not quoted correctly. It seems that I have to tell everyone when using 'AddressPal'  "please use the full name and AP number"!  ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on December 11, 2019, 08:36:30 PM
Bit annoyed tonight, I placed a order for some items from Rails of Sheffield yesterday. I paid via paypal usually no problem, because I wanted the items before weekend I paid a extra £1 for Royal mail 24 thinking I should get the goods for Thursday. The trouble is Rails have not processed my order it is just sat there unconsigned/pending so they have wasted 24hours. Now if there is a problem with payment or something they could have least let me know. I should have rang them, this afternoon but unfortunately I left it too late to ring them. Friday delivery will be no good has I am usually out on a Friday so its not looking good.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on December 11, 2019, 08:54:09 PM
Are you in on Saturday? If yes, give them a call tomorrow morning and ask them to dispatch on Friday or refund your £1 and dispatch tomorrow using a standard service.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on December 11, 2019, 08:57:40 PM
Thanks @RailGooner (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5427) saturday is a possibility. I will ring tomorrow morning, up early anyway going to the doctors for a blood test.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 12, 2019, 11:04:30 AM
My Mum was ambulanced to Preston Hospital early yesterday morning (nothing too serious it turns out) and the ambulance crew insisted I was called over to Mum's before they left. They recommended I didn't go to the hospital for a couple of hours as Mum would have to go through A & E then Triage then be seen by a doc etc etc. I collected my eldest sister about 1½ hours later and to the hospital we went. Preston Hospital is a sod awful place to get to and parking is usually a nightmare but we found a place OK and went to A & E where Mum was, arriving about 10.15.
At about 13.30 she was transferred to the Surgical Assessment Unit and at around 14.15 we were advised by the senior nurse Mum would likely be kept in overnight and that we may as well go home. I dropped my sister off and got home about 15.20, made a coffee and sat down. 10 minutes later the phone rang and the aforesaid senior nurse said Mum was being discharged and could we collect her.
Back I went for my sister and back we went to the hospital. There we were told Mum had been taken for an X ray. Not long after she was brought back from that she was told she had to go for a CT scan, that there was no one to look at the scan so she'd have to go back to the hospital on the 16th Dec for the results. An hour went by and we were then told they would, in fact, look at the scan in the hope they could avoid her having to return on the 16th. Fair enough. Another hour or so went by and then a doctor told us she would be kept in overnight!!!!
Took my sis back to hers and got home about 18.20 still seething at the ineptitude and poor communication of the day. As I type this I'm waiting for the hospital to call me to see if she is coming out today, and expect another day of being buggered about.
Disgruntled of Lancashire
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on December 12, 2019, 11:07:37 AM
We are all thinking of mum mick. For a speedy recovery
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on December 12, 2019, 11:11:50 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 12, 2019, 11:04:30 AM
still seething at the ineptitude and poor communication of the day.

Seems to be the way of life these days Mick, not many people seem to care how what they say or do will affect others. Hope your Mum gets on okay.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mk1gtstu on December 12, 2019, 12:01:53 PM
Sorry to hear that Mick,
Hope all is well again soon.

Cheers, Stu
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on December 12, 2019, 12:17:57 PM
Nightmare for all of you, Mick.

Hope mum is OK.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Invicta Alec on December 12, 2019, 12:38:43 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 12, 2019, 11:04:30 AM

Took my sis back to hers and got home about 18.20 still seething at the ineptitude and poor communication of the day.


Mick, its clear you've had a frustrating day and I sympathise.

Despite all the apparent inefficiencies I can assure you of one thing. None of the staff who were involved with your mum's care set out to aggravate you. Not one of them intentionally wanted to annoy you.

I read a post on Facebook book this morning from a London Ambulance Driver. He described his work day of Tuesday this week. Eight times he went into action with blue lights blazing. Only one incident warrantied the haste. One blue light call out resulted in him sticking a small plaster over an even smaller cut on the hand of a strapping male.
Short staffing lies at the root of many experiences like yours. Selfish (or stupid) people needlessly blocking up waiting rooms and ambulance services need holding to account.

Rant over. Hope your mum is doing well.

Alec.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 12, 2019, 12:39:58 PM
Phoned the ward at 10.20 and was told the doc was at the next bed to Mum so she'd be seen shortly and I'd be called. Sis phoned me at 11.30 to say Mum had not been seen by a doc yet.
Starting to wonder when I'll get the ransom note :uneasy:

Quote from: Invicta Alec on December 12, 2019, 12:38:43 PM

Short staffing lies at the root of many experiences like yours.

Not in this case, Alec. While Mum was on the Surgical Assessment Unit at least 3 nurses came over to introduce themselves as Mum's nurse for the day (and they weren't trainees either.) Really? 3 of them? It's no wonder conflicting info is given
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 12, 2019, 12:54:51 PM
unfortunately, not an uncommon occurrence.

time before last when SWMBO was ambulanced up to PRH Haywards Heath, after a few days was due to be discharged 'tomorrow'

phoned the next morning to se what was going on, and was told
'just awaiting her discharge meds from pharmacy, call back in an hour'

called back
'still awaiting her discharge meds from pharmacy, call back in an hour'

after several repeats gave up and about 6 pm headed up to wait there for her, can't be much longer, can it ?

at just gone 7pm, sister came in and said that they'd have to keep her in overnight ...

as the doctor who prescribed her discharge meds hadn't signed the prescription, and had now gone home   :censored:

the trouble seems to be that while the majority of the staff are great, there are still some  :-X who manage to  :censored: things up, with consequent knock on effects.

hope your mum 'escapes' soon  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on December 12, 2019, 08:49:33 PM
Been waiting in all day for Hermes to deliver a parcel. A 10:30 it was with the courier and would be delivered today. Kept entering their tracking site and it was still saying it would be delivered today. Then at 8:30 tonight, the web site says that a 11:15 this morning, there was a problem and it will be delivered tomorrow.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on December 12, 2019, 09:08:18 PM
You have my sympathies Malc. Been there, done that, got a wardrobe full of t-shirts.  ;D. Why the website of a courier can not be accurately updated I have no idea. I know I chose to live in a remote area, but the number of problems I have had over the years. One courier does not even attempt to deliver to the house, he takes the parcel straight to where Louisa works! I ordered a new modem last week, the girl I spoke to said that they use both a courier and An Post - I told her if she did not promise to use An Post, I would cancel the order - it came via the post 2 days later.  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on December 13, 2019, 10:54:15 AM
Quote from: Malc on December 12, 2019, 08:49:33 PM
Been waiting in all day for Hermes to deliver a parcel. A 10:30 it was with the courier and would be delivered today. Kept entering their tracking site and it was still saying it would be delivered today. Then at 8:30 tonight, the web site says that a 11:15 this morning, there was a problem and it will be delivered tomorrow.
Thankfully no longer in the industry but fully understand how this happens and this applies to all couriers inc RM and is due to unrealistic workloads. The driver is given a pile of parcels to deliver which is physically impossible to manage as there are too many yet the company says they're out for delivery because, to be fair, they are. The driver will fail this impossible task and those left roll over to the next day and the company can blame the driver.
When at RM and delivering parcels over Christmas my management set a target for drivers of 20 parcels an hour so that meant when you pulled up and managed to park somewhere near the delivery address (if you were lucky) you had 3 minutes to walk up the path, ring bell, go to neighbours if necessary, write a 'you were out/the parcels at' card and then be pulling up at the next address which could be a mile or so away. Completely impossible which the management knew but targets are targets and extra staff costs money. Glad to be out of it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on December 13, 2019, 03:27:28 PM
And on the same topic of deliveries the Amazon guy just knocked on the door and asked if I would take in the pile of 7 parcels for my neighbour. No worries, done it numerous times so off he goes on his merry way. Go to stack up the parcels and 2 of them are for completely different address. Of course I can't find any way of contacting Amazon to come and collect them so it looks like I'll have to go back to my old job and deliver them.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 13, 2019, 03:47:59 PM
Keep trying to catch my postie as I'm fed up getting soaking wet post which has been folded in half to get it through the letter box more easily for him. How would he like his Christmas cards folded? :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 13, 2019, 04:09:59 PM
never mind your cards ...

hows mum, did she make it through the tunnel, or did the goons catch her  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 13, 2019, 09:21:01 PM
@class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311) @Bob Tidbury (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3442) @crewearpley40 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3894) @Lawrence (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=16)

Thanks, All, for asking after Mum. I literally heard from sis they were leaving the hospital ½ an hour ago so Mum should be home now, although I'm still in the dark as to what the diagnosis was. She told me at 11 a.m. this morning all she needed was her meds and a doc to sign her out so it took over 9 hours for that to happen ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 13, 2019, 09:22:54 PM
at least she is home, and will sleep in her own bed tonight  :thumbsup:

no ...

wake up, it's time for your sleeping pill  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on December 13, 2019, 09:25:12 PM
We are all thinking of mum and you mick
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on December 13, 2019, 09:53:39 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 13, 2019, 09:21:01 PM
She told me at 11 a.m. this morning all she needed was her meds and a doc to sign her out so it took over 9 hours for that to happen ::)

My wife was in hospital for five days just under two years ago. I took the morning off to pick her up (due for discharge at 11am) and we waited and waited for her meds. At 1pm, we agreed with the staff that I'd take her home and come back later for the meds. I phoned at 3pm, they were not ready (she was now overdue taking antibiotics). I went in at 5pm and they were not ready. At 6pm we had a breakthrough - we discovered that pharmacy had not sent the meds to the ward because the porter was off ill and they'd not bothered to do anything about it. I went down to pharmacy (the ward having phoned them first), only for them to refuse to hand them over to me, wanting a member of the ward staff (who were all tied up for the next hour or more) there. I eventually got them home just before 8pm - around 6 hours late for taking the antibiotics following an operation on an infected finger joint, that they'd already said she was lucky not to lose. My wife used to be a nurse and has told me many times that getting meds from pharmacy is one of the main problems with discharging patients.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on December 14, 2019, 04:31:32 PM
Well its trivial compared to other complaints on here but it still makes me angry.my parcel according to royal mail is stuck in m/cr sorting office since yesterday so no chance of 24 hours now. Made my mind up i wont use Rails of sheffield again.i paid for 24 hour tracking and i had to ring for tracking number its not on the invoice,what use is that. I ordered tuesday afternoon admitedly after they shut but it will be nearly a week if i get it on Monday. Cant do the track now
Very annoyed.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on December 14, 2019, 04:37:19 PM
One consolation Chris, you should get your fee for the 24 hour delivery refunded - and ask them for the cost of your phone calls.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on December 14, 2019, 09:03:11 PM
We used to have a saying in the motor trade the customer who complains is still possibly a customer. Some customers do not complain and they just go somewhere else. I did send a message to Rails on thier website, they have never replied so much for customer service.Of course they will say they are busy it's xmas, but how many customers will they lose.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on December 15, 2019, 01:07:05 AM
Quote from: lil chris on December 14, 2019, 09:03:11 PM
............ the customer who complains is still possibly a customer. Some customers do not complain and they just go somewhere else.

Probably the best statement ever. Chris, this just needs a little fine-tuning  for a good catchphrase so others can catch on to it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 15, 2019, 10:12:35 AM
@stevewalker (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5329)
Just to bear out Steve's post, the saga with Preston Hospital continued yesterday. It would appear when Mum finally escaped their clutches Friday night at 20.35 she did not have a critical med as the pharmacy had shut at 17.00. I got a message yesterday lunchtime to call the ward sister after 14.00 to arrange for me to go and collect said critical med, to which I replied she either phoned me or sent the meds by courier. I called again at 15.30 and again at 17.05 (after the pharmacy had shut) and was told someone was doing the rounds with meds the pharmacy had got out before closing. Finally got a call from the ward sister at about 17.35 so off to the hospital I went. Got to the ward and the sister was doing her rounds so I kicked my heels until an hour later. She meted out the exact amount of critical anti-biotic and I got back to Mum for about 19.05. There we discovered we were 2 pills short so Mum could not take any last night but had to wait until today to start taking them.
I got home at 19.40 having been at Mums since 13.00. Tired, angry and hungry but couldn't be bothered to do/eat anything.
For anyone who wants to look it up, Mum has been diagnosed with Diverticulosis (but they're not entirely sure)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on December 15, 2019, 10:28:13 AM
That has to be so frustrating for you and more than uncomfortable for your mum. Wishing her better very soon.

Hope you get things sorted PDQ but would strongly suggest you make a formal complaint to whatever patients body there is at the hospital.

We all appreciate that there is too much work for far too few front line staff at almost every hospital but it's vital that they know they are affecting people so badly.

Tell your newly (re)elected MP also of the problem and make sure he/she gives you a sensible reply.

All the best!

Dave G

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on December 15, 2019, 10:44:08 AM
Stay positive mick. Thinking of your mum
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on December 15, 2019, 10:54:00 AM
I think each Hospital should be run by the Matron of the Hospital .It used to work very well like that as each Matron knew what their hospital needed now it's run by a central system some hospitals don't have the equipment or staff to manage whereas other hospitals have things that they don't really need or use .
For example High Wycombe Hospital had a perfectly good maternity unit but now expectant mothers have to travel about 20 miles to Stoke Mandevile while the Wycombe unit remains empty and unused except for a birthing pool .
I know this will cause some response and only used this as one example .
I wish your Mum a speedy recovery Mick give her our regards and best wishes
Bob  and Val Tidbury
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on December 15, 2019, 11:03:57 AM
Quote from: Bob Tidbury on December 15, 2019, 10:54:00 AM

For example High Wycombe Hospital had a perfectly good maternity unit but now expectant mothers have to travel about 20 miles to Stoke Mandevile while the Wycombe unit remains empty and unused except for a birthing pool .


Ditto in Eastbourne. You can give birth in Eastbourne but it has to be a text book birth as there is no longer any back up. At the first hint of anything you have to go to Hastings. The place of birth for most newborns from Eastbourne is now "somewhere on the A259 on route"!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 15, 2019, 11:57:34 AM
 :hmmm:  Matron .....

she who even consultants stood in dread of  :smiley-laughing:

you do realise that would mean putting 'doers' in charge rather than 'think they know it alls' ?

might even mean less administrators  :thumbsup:

remember a few years ago I mistakenly addressed a 'sister' as such, to be told

"I am not a sister, I am a nursing manager"

didn't like my response of 'sorry, but you know what they say, those that can, do, those that can't, manage'
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on December 15, 2019, 12:05:38 PM
Hope your Mum goes on okay Mick and that the diverticulitis is not too bad.  All this talk of Matrons and Managers etc makes me think of one thing - it is what they call progress.  :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on December 15, 2019, 12:43:57 PM
Mick, best wishes for your Mum.

Matron always ensured that the wards were clean at least. Not an insignificant thing in a hospital I'd have thought.

While working at one of the hospitals here in Oxford, I once moved a computer to find at the back of it, a brick of dust 4" deep and perfectly matching the width and height of said computer. Nobody wanted to take ownership of the problem, not the Ward Manager, Senior Nurse, anybody. Some even questioned what I was doing moving the computer in the first place! NHS Managers only manage budgets, not services!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 15, 2019, 01:06:25 PM
"Matron always ensured that the wards were clean at least. Not an insignificant thing in a hospital I'd have thought."

probably tempting fate here, but I have only, so far - fingers crossed, been in two hospitals...

RAF Cosford
RAF Wroughton

both in days, long ago, before various governments decided to flog them all off and rent an NHS wing off a trust.

wards were spotless, from memory all beds and lockers from one side moved into centre of the ward, floor cleaned and polished, beds and lockers back, then repeated for the other side, finally when all was back in place centre cleaned and polished.

daily.

sister in charge, with SRNs, SENs, student nurses under her.
patients 'encouraged' to be out of bed and in the recreation room at the end of the ward as soon as they were fit to do so.

matron's rounds, you either stood to attention by your bed, sat to attention by your bed, or lay to attention in your bed, depending on how ill you were.

she was, possibly, one place below God, but no one was willing to confirm or deny that.

nursing care was superb, and you often had civilians in the wards when local hospitals were over run.
not of course an option now, as all sold off in the name of 'efficiency', once MPs and so on got their BUPA membership.

I very much doubt that you could ever recover that morale and dedication again, though happily you do find remnants of it here and there.

don't get me wrong, SWMBO has had great service generally over the years, but even the most dedicated of staff can only do so much.

one last point before I bore you all to death ...

when I was on the AA I had a breakdown at the local hospital, a nurse, and while chatting it turned out she had recently been made redundant off a particular ward, and finished on a friday.
on the monday she was back on the same ward as an agency nurse, much the same pay, but not allowed to do many of the things she had the week before because she was not staff, and had been there for several months.
of course the agency were also making a charge for supplying her, so she effectively cost more, but could do less ...

but, I assume, a different budget  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on December 15, 2019, 11:00:25 PM
A two-parter, but connected both to each other and to the ills of the NHS.

Part one. On Friday my eldest son was assaulted by another lower sixth pupil on his way to the bus after school. This idiot has been needling him for some time and my son has ignored it or told him to leave him alone. This time, after telling him yet again (not too politely) to leave him alone and walking off, he was jumped from behind, slamming him into a parked truck and onto the floor, spraining his ankle and injuring his hand and then repeatedly kicked while he was on the floor, leaving him unable to attend music practice and the end of term party afterwards. Also leaving him unable to help me with DIY that we need to get finished in time for Christmas.

Part two. Suspecting a possible fracture of one of his fingers, I took him to the Urgent Care Centre, where, despite a full waiting room and us seeing the sign changed from 4-1/2 to 5 hours wait, he was actually seen fairly quickly; sent for x-ray; and seen again (total, less than two hours, so we were very happy with that). He was strapped up and then we were then directed to reception to get an appointment for the fracture clinic - only to get home, look at the appointment letter, and find that he'd been given an appointment for 05/12/2019! How can the system even allow that? The phone numbers on the letter don't work over the weekend either.

Yet again, good care, but poor organisation/administration.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 15, 2019, 11:18:10 PM
hope he is at least ok for now.

but as you say, how can the system allow this....

and again, as so often, great service and care from front line staff...

but ...

:poop: once you get anywhere near 'administration'.

hopefully he's not as bad as feared, but equally hopefully you can get this sorted monday.

but you shouldn't need to  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on December 15, 2019, 11:25:09 PM
Quote from: class37025 on December 15, 2019, 11:18:10 PM
hope he is at least ok for now.

but as you say, how can the system allow this....

and again, as so often, great service and care from front line staff...

but ...

:poop: once you get anywhere near 'administration'.

hopefully he's not as bad as feared, but equally hopefully you can get this sorted monday.

but you shouldn't need to  :veryangry:

Indeed.

He's not bad at all now and the fracture is minor. The appointment will be easily resolved.

He'll get a lift to school tomorrow (because of the sprained ankle) and we'll pay for a taxi from school to work at the end of the day (I pick him up from work anyway).

The visit to the school on Monday (more pay lost for me) and the results of that will be interesting though. The idiot involved is lucky that we didn't just call the police.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on December 15, 2019, 11:49:03 PM
Quote from: stevewalker on December 15, 2019, 11:27:12 PM
..
The idiot involved is lucky that we didn't just call the police.

It's not too late and I'd recommend you do bring the Police in - an intervention now might stop that idiot before it's too late to stop 'em.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on December 15, 2019, 11:59:00 PM
Quote from: RailGooner on December 15, 2019, 11:49:03 PM
Quote from: stevewalker on December 15, 2019, 11:27:12 PM
..
The idiot involved is lucky that we didn't just call the police.

It's not too late and I'd recommend you do bring the Police in - an intervention now might stop that idiot before it's too late to stop 'em.

I've wanted to all along, but my son doesn't want that. He accepts getting the school involved. It is possible that the school may want to involve the police or that my son might change his mind once things progress with the school.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 16, 2019, 12:03:18 AM
As a retired schoolteacher, I'll be interested in what school has to say, too.

As for your mother's saga, Mick, well geez, bloody nightmare.

If it's any consolation, I'm still in me boot for Christmas  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on December 16, 2019, 06:08:45 AM
Steve. Lets hope that the appropriate action is taken. I would have spoken to the police. And trust you all gain the answers that you seek. Chris
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 26, 2020, 07:20:44 PM
really annoyed today, as much at myself as the supplier ...

another member and I have been discussing a 1/76 project of a military convoy, of a certain  :zippedmouth: type, based on some youtube footage.

ordered some transfers from my usual 1/76 supplier, and things were going reasonably well, until today  >:(

I'd repainted an Oxford Diecast vehicle and started applying the transfers for my 'theoretical' scheme, and went well till I went to add the number plates....

I needed normal style plates for the front, but square for the rear, so decided to use some from this set

http://www.kingfisherminiatures.co.uk/bedford-tm-6-6-2-i254.htm (http://www.kingfisherminiatures.co.uk/bedford-tm-6-6-2-i254.htm)

not correct for the vehicle, but I can live with that, but

none of the front plates match the rear plates  :censored:

so I've bought some of these, and they are no use whatsoever  :veryangry:

the trouble is

a. it's my fault, I should have checked the set before I ordered and noticed the problem

b. whenever you e-mail this guy you have about a 10% chance of getting a reply

luckily I found another set that gave me the sort of plates I wanted...

emailed the supplier about the problem

but not really sure I'll get any reply.

and things were going so well  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 26, 2020, 09:27:17 PM
update...
just had an e-mail from the supplier, in which he apologised for the mistake by his supplier.

he says he will address this tonight or tomorrow, and as soon as he receives replacement sets, which are correct, will send out replacements.

all respect to him, he has replied, accepted responsibility, and offered to make good the fault of his printer.

you cannot ask for more than that, all cottage / one man industries can have mistakes, the important thing is how they deal with them.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 29, 2020, 10:09:16 PM
yesterday saw both the arrival of the new / corrected transfers, together with an apology for the c**k up...

should really put this in the happy thread but having posted my unhappiness thought it only right to post my  :thumbsup: for his quick response, and rectification.

as with so many one-man-bands he relys on other such to supply him, and sometimes gets let down.

so, please check out

http://www.kingfisherminiatures.co.uk/1-76-Vehicles-c1.htm (http://www.kingfisherminiatures.co.uk/1-76-Vehicles-c1.htm)

if you also model in 1/76 ......

he has a huge amount of items, usually in stock, from transfers to resin vehicles / conversions.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on February 25, 2020, 03:32:01 PM
why, oh why, oh why did I ever think changing to Virgin Media would be a good idea  :'(

last year they came round, dug up the verges and footpaths, and then sent con artists salesmen round to sign people up for their  :poop: service.

like a numpty, I signed up, cheaper than my existing provider, and gave me TV free  :thumbsup:

how stupid was I  >:D

since day one, broadband drops out, and in spite of checking the 'connect automatically' box, it doesn't  >:(

you then phone up, 'speak' to a computer which tells you it will check your equipment ... we need to send a signal to restart it ... and it doesn't.

you phone back again, and get some cretin in Mumbai who reads a script and takes no notice of anything you say.

so, you lose the will to live, and just keep pressing 'connect' each time it cuts out.

at least, so far, SWMBO can now watch the TV instead of it regularly turning into lines of pixelated rubbish...

then that started to go for a burton ... 'you are not connected to the internet' .. although the TV program was still audible, and showing at the top right hand corner of the screen   :veryangry:
so now I've got to deal with Mumbai AND SWMBO  :help:

back to the phone, testing your system, need to restart etc  :smackedface:

no help but managed to sort, for now, by rebooting ie off - on

then broadband disappeared completely, 'we need to send out an engineer, it will be five days...there is a fault with your fibre... but the TV works, so at least SHE is happy.

so, no e-mails, can't do online banking , NO FORUM :'(

day the engineer is due turn everything on .... and it's all working  :'(

cancel engineer, I'm not sitting waiting for some idiot for 4 hours ...

then it starts playing up again, I demand A NEW HUB, takes best part of a week, install it and still the same, keeps dropping out.

final straw, today TV packs up again, can't connect to internet, though programs still play in top right corner..

back on the phone, forget the tech help options, leaving you option selected ....


and a uk voice, not Mumbai.

can't leave without paying as not had three engineers visits in 30 days ....

bring it on you  :censored:

so engineer due thursday...
not much hope but one down ...

then I'll do it again,
and again

then I'll get free of beardie, and go back to yorkshire, ok basically BT, but no Mumbai connection.

:help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on February 25, 2020, 03:53:46 PM
Sorry to hear the situation is more than virgin on the ridiculous. :(

Time to play trains I think. :thumbsup:

Preferably with a glass or three of your favourite tipple.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on February 25, 2020, 03:57:59 PM
Sad to say none of the above surprises me.

Mrs Skyline spent a while working for a small firm who was sub-contracted to Virgin to install fibre....that was eye-opening. Let's just say ****up in brewery could not be arranged.

Also, as previously mentioned on here, the Bearded Ones boys were once responsible for making my mother's front lawn live.

Might I suggest you log a complaint with the relevant Ombudsman? They can be a powerful aid against these cretins.

Skyline2uk   
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on February 25, 2020, 03:59:19 PM
now why didn't I think of that ....

of course, SWMBO is bending my ears  :-[

off to the shed, at least the one that didn't get the felt ripped off in the recent storms, and soaked inside.

lock door, turn off mobile phone, check glass is clean, open bottle of Scottish water,  ahhhhh, chill :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on February 27, 2020, 08:43:23 PM
@class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311) . Have a look at the logs in the Superhub. It might give you some clue as to the location of the fault. I used to be with BT and whenever I spoke to support, it was always someone with an Indian accent, so don't think you can escape.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on February 27, 2020, 10:12:24 PM
Quote from: Malc on February 27, 2020, 08:43:23 PM
@class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311) . Have a look at the logs in the Superhub. It might give you some clue as to the location of the fault. I used to be with BT and whenever I spoke to support, it was always someone with an Indian accent, so don't think you can escape.

engineer turned up this morning and sorted the problem, in the end ...

apparently the loss of connection was due to too fast a signal, and he changed something in the hub [looked like some sort of card thingy] to filter too high speeds.... :dunce:

the tv problem was due to me  :-[

when the new hub arrived, I did not reprogram the tv with the new password for the new hub, well in my defence no one told me to  :confused1:

so it couldn't connect to the hub.

I thought it got it's feed through the cable, but then I'm a  :dunce: when it come to t'internet etc.

anyway, so far, touch wood, all seems to be working [that's probably tempting fate] so no need to converse, at least today, with Mumbai  :bounce:

and, unlike they told me, nothing wrong with the cable  ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dr Al on February 28, 2020, 01:07:27 AM
Cable is pretty reliable in my experience, and a lot, lot faster. I suspect after getting over your initial setup issues, you'll find things settle down. In a decade I think we've had maybe 2 or 3 dropouts for 5 mins on internet, and once where there was a fault that left it off for maybe an hour and a half. All of these were within a month or two of the same year, indicating it all emanated from the same fault. Overall I consider that not too bad in a decade (and this is on cable infrastructure put in in the mid 1990s IIRC).

Hopefully you acquire trouble free cabling from now on!

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 12, 2020, 01:49:36 AM
On my way to get my monthly venesection yesterday, I was turning left at a major intersection in town, and had to wait on the corner while pedestrians crossed. Someone in one of those big recreational tanks couldn't wait for a few seconds, and came past cms away and took out my side mirror.

I honked like crazy, but they kept going. That intersection is covered in cameras, so I went to the police station this morning to see if they had the footage of the incident, and could get the number plate.

"Sorry, sir, it seems the cameras weren't working at that time yesterday."

Yeah, right. More like it was such a minor incident to them they couldn't be bothered.

Well it ain't minor to me. The mirror is electrically moved, so a new Toyota part will be likely around A$500, and will then have to be fitted.

:veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on March 16, 2020, 05:30:14 PM
Just picked up a click and collect order from ASDA. The woman bringing the order out told me that there was lots missing - which did not surprise me. The trouble is that on every single occasion that we have used them, we have received an email confirming the order, one confirming any amendments that we've made later and one telling us that there is still time to amend the order - but NEVER the final one that says that it is ready, what has been substituted and what is missing entirely.

I phoned to explain the problem and told them that Tesco just hand you a printout. They said they did it electronically for environmental reasons - and I pointed out that it was not good for the environment for me to have to make the journey home, check everything against the order, make a new list and drive out to another shop instead of stopping off on the way home.

This would have gone in the Unhappy thread, but it was upgraded to the Angry thread after being on hold for 43 minutes to complain about it in the first place!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 17, 2020, 12:01:43 PM
Quote from: Bealman on March 12, 2020, 01:49:36 AM
On my way to get my monthly venesection yesterday, I was turning left at a major intersection in town, and had to wait on the corner while pedestrians crossed. Someone in one of those big recreational tanks couldn't wait for a few seconds, and came past cms away and took out my side mirror.

I honked like crazy, but they kept going. That intersection is covered in cameras, so I went to the police station this morning to see if they had the footage of the incident, and could get the number plate.

"Sorry, sir, it seems the cameras weren't working at that time yesterday."

Yeah, right. More like it was such a minor incident to them they couldn't be bothered.

Well it ain't minor to me. The mirror is electrically moved, so a new Toyota part will be likely around A$500, and will then have to be fitted.

:veryangry:

Get a dash cam, George. It saved my bacon when a lady shot a red light and hit me. She claimed to her insurance that it was my fault. Just before it went to court my insurance company emailed the dash cam footage to her company. They paid up immediately.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on March 17, 2020, 12:07:15 PM
I agree with Malc. I bought mine about four years ago after nearly being involved in two accidents in the space of two weeks due to other drivers aggressiveness or lack of attention. Fortunately, I have not needed it since  :), but, like insurance, it is something nice to have but you hope you never need it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on March 17, 2020, 01:18:07 PM
once you get a dash cam you realise 1 aint enough and you invest in a rear camera as well,saved us when a cyclist  reconed we'd pulled out infront of him,the footage of him swerving to dodge the traffic and riding straight into the back of the van.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Papyrus on March 17, 2020, 08:55:14 PM
I'm a mild-mannered person who doesn't tend to trouble this thread much, but I am feeling slightly dischuffed tonight...

In view of likely difficulties getting out to the shops in the next few weeks we decided to put my wife's son on our car insurance as he doesn't have a car at the moment and it might come in useful. The online amendment went easily enough and the premium went up by £50 which wasn't a surprise. What did get my goat was the £25 'administration charge'. Excuse me? Who was the one who did all the administration? Twiddling the mouse and tapping the keys? I got the confirmation of the extra driver in about a minute, and the updated insurance certificate was available immediately. It was obviously all done without any human intervention whatsoever, so what was the £25 charge for? I calculate the insurance company's computer must get paid at the rate of about £1500 an hour! For doing sod all...

I don't think I will be renewing with them next time.  :veryangry:

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on March 17, 2020, 09:01:04 PM
@Papyrus (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2975) I would be inclined to write or email the company, asking them to justify the 'administration charge' before you think about the next renewal - they might get the message.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Papyrus on March 17, 2020, 09:15:26 PM
That is a very good point @dannyboy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4209)  and one which had very briefly flitted through my mind and out the other side.

I might very well do that.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on March 17, 2020, 09:34:12 PM
@Papyrus (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2975)

That would get me into this thread as well.

For what it's worth, one reason I am currently in my third year with Aviva as my car insurer is that they don't do that sort of stuff.

When I got the new Skyline wheels I was mid-term and called them up to change the motor. I fully expected a charge of some sort in addition to a premium increase (bigger car, more power).

So when the nice lady said "£16.00" I kept quiet thinking it would be followed by the premium increase, but nothing came!

So I can recommend Aviva if your current lot don't see the error of their ways.

Of course if it is Aviva that have done this to you I shall look a prize berk and leave with my tail between my legs.....

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Papyrus on March 18, 2020, 11:49:15 AM
I wasn't going to name and shame them, but, what the heck, it was the RAC, who I've always had a good opinion of up to now.

Thanks for the recommendation on Aviva. I will at least get a quote from them next time.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on March 20, 2020, 05:41:51 AM
Yes, I can concur with @Skyline2uk (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1081), I'm with Quote Me Happy, Aviva's online only service.  Just changed my car with over three months to go on the policy, and they have charged me the princely sum of £5.16.  I must say I was pleasantly surprized.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on March 21, 2020, 06:30:58 PM
Can't say what I really feel about this as this is a Family Forum:

Suffice to say  :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry: :censored:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-51988877 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-51988877)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 21, 2020, 06:37:04 PM
"If officers see specified businesses open, they will remind them of the government advice."

what ?

no wonder there is little or no respect for the police, or their 'managers'

it was announced clearly last night that pubs / clubs / cafes / etc should close, except for take away service

so if a cafe is open in contradiction of this, the owners should not be 'reminded', but cuffed and stuffed, in the back of a squad car, booked and prosecuted.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on March 21, 2020, 06:47:12 PM
The only snag is that, unless/until the necessary laws are passed, business - and the general population - can not be prosecuted for failing to heed advice. If I had my way, all this advice would be mandatory, with heavy fines, (and no government handouts), for people who selfishly disregard the advice given.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on March 21, 2020, 07:31:48 PM
Quote from: daffy on March 21, 2020, 06:30:58 PM
Can't say what I really feel about this as this is a Family Forum:

Suffice to say  :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry: :censored:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-51988877 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-51988877)

And they will be the first to bleat about catching the virus or the government not doing enough for them or not paying them enough benefits, someone wipe my nose/arse with all the TP I have panic bought.
Sadly many good people will be lost because of these selfish snowflakes, makes me sick.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 21, 2020, 08:57:10 PM
Just another example of lack of respect for the safety of others - appalling :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on March 21, 2020, 09:26:24 PM
The National Trust have posted on social media to tell people not to visit Glynde Gap or Devils Dyke down in Sussex as today saw a record number of visitors. With these levels of shear stupidity or total disregard for anyone else we don't stand a chance. It's embarrassing being being part of the human race at the moment.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on March 21, 2020, 09:31:05 PM
I can't really express just how incensed I am by this selfish, stupid and unforgivable behaviour.
Up to now I have been able to assimilate the spread of this virus through our World in a rational and considered manner. I have absorbed and understood it's effects and implications, and I have known for weeks that the only way for me and my family and friends to survive is to take heed of the advice given by those who know far more than I about how to manage, as best we can, the pestilence.

This morning I was acutely aware that the daily World death toll was inexorably rising, and at an ever faster rate. A few days ago there were, for the first time, just over 1000 deaths in a 24 hour period. The next day it was higher. The day after that higher still. With a few hours (GMT) left to this day, there have already been just over 1600 deaths, almost half of them in one country, Italy, alone.

This afternoon I read the news that I have given a link to above. It is not the only example of what is described that can be found.

Now I have a new perspective upon the World situation.

Yes, the virus is the agent that continues to scour the population, but the principle method of its transmission is through human to human contact.

By the action of those who evidently wish to ignore informed wisdom and flout the request to minimise that contact, through social distancing (or as the WHO now prefer to call it, physical distancing) it is now quite reasonable for me to say.....

People are killing people.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on March 22, 2020, 12:39:38 AM
I'm sick of hearing people say "I'm healthy, I have a strong immune system, I won't let this change my behaviour, I'll judge what's best" because it's not just about you (the person saying that) but the people you can unwittingly infect.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on March 22, 2020, 12:52:09 AM
Quote from: dannyboy on March 21, 2020, 06:47:12 PM
The only snag is that, unless/until the necessary laws are passed, business - and the general population - can not be prosecuted for failing to heed advice. If I had my way, all this advice would be mandatory, with heavy fines, (and no government handouts), for people who selfishly disregard the advice given.

There will be some law that they can get them on - endangering members of the public, causing a public nuisance,  or something along those lines. Withdrawal of or refusal to renew their licence should follow.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on March 22, 2020, 05:46:13 AM
And just as I awake this morning I find the President of the US is strongly urging folks to take a two-drug cocktail that will cure them of Covid-19.

Only one problem - the drug combination will probably kill them in the process!

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/trump-fauci-coronavirus-hloroquine-azithromycin_n_5e768e4fc5b6eab77949660d?ri18n=true&ncid=APPLENEWS00001 (https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/trump-fauci-coronavirus-hloroquine-azithromycin_n_5e768e4fc5b6eab77949660d?ri18n=true&ncid=APPLENEWS00001)

:censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on March 22, 2020, 06:10:53 AM
Good grief, and supplies of facepalm are running critically low as it is.

In other news, I've had two second-hand reports that UK television has been reporting that life in Japan is somehow running as normal - rest assured it isn't, schools as well as "public gathering places" have been closed since the start of March, tourism is dead, restaurants etc. are very empty and people are being very circumspect. The cherry blossom season (basically a massive excuse to hang out in dense throngs in parks) is verboten.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 22, 2020, 07:06:33 AM
Don't worry, mate.... big meeting tonight in NSW. By Tuesday, schools, pubs, etc here will be closed, for sure.

Interstate travel is already kaput. I scraped back home!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on March 22, 2020, 09:36:38 AM
Suppliers aren't helping much. As I am 73 with COPD (mild I admit) and having missed most of last summer due to complications following a cancer op.,we have decided to avoid all face to face contact, only to find we cannot book a slot for home delivery. Three nights on the trot I waited up till midnight (the time when a new day should become available) but although the new day appeared it still said no slots were available.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on March 22, 2020, 09:43:48 AM
Here in France there is a €135 fine if the cops catch you in the street without a valid reason.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on March 22, 2020, 10:26:26 AM
Quote from: steve836 on March 22, 2020, 09:36:38 AM
Suppliers aren't helping much. As I am 73 with COPD (mild I admit) and having missed most of last summer due to complications following a cancer op.,we have decided to avoid all face to face contact, only to find we cannot book a slot for home delivery. Three nights on the trot I waited up till midnight (the time when a new day should become available) but although the new day appeared it still said no slots were available.

Ditto here. Tesco and Waitrose have no slots available for either home delivery or Click&Collect between now and 8th April, the latest date supposedly available. Even then, despite our nearest Tesco Superstore being 12 miles away, the store selection on their webpage gives Lincoln, 28 miles away as the only store with the service nearest us.
Waitrose too is in Lincoln.

Though I do have asthma and have been keeping myself out of as much human contact as possible, I still have to do the shopping once a week or so.

Hopefully as Tesco take on more staff, and Waitrose staff are boosted by the redirected staff members from the John Lewis stores that will all close after business on Monday, things might improve.

Or not.

PS - my wife has just checked Asda using her account - like wise fully booked up, this time to 11th April.

Ah well, probably need to go on a diet anyway. :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 22, 2020, 11:16:54 AM
Quote from: stevewalker on March 22, 2020, 12:52:09 AM
Quote from: dannyboy on March 21, 2020, 06:47:12 PM
The only snag is that, unless/until the necessary laws are passed, business - and the general population - can not be prosecuted for failing to heed advice. If I had my way, all this advice would be mandatory, with heavy fines, (and no government handouts), for people who selfishly disregard the advice given.

There will be some law that they can get them on - endangering members of the public, causing a public nuisance,  or something along those lines. Withdrawal of or refusal to renew their licence should follow.

I'm sure I read somewhere a bloke in the Isle of Man had been arrested for refusing to self isolate and was facing a fine of up to £10,000
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on March 22, 2020, 12:01:23 PM
Like many of you, my mum is in a similar position, 81 with asthma and angina. I have encouraged her to try online delivery with the expectation of booking 4 weeks in advance.
I don't blame the supermarkets at all, they are recruiting like crazy and many people who would otherwise be out of work do at least have an income, albeit temporary, for how long no one knows.
I blame the greedy, selfish people who still go and panic buy and also ignore the requests to leave various times free for the elderly and vulnerable or for our NHS and blue light workers.
Please be kind to the folks in store and on the till, especially when they tell you you can only have 2 or 3 of an item, they are just applying the guidelines, they didn't make them and they, like the rest of us, are working lots of extra hours to make up for colleagues who are self isolating or cannot come in to work.
I have no connection with any supermarket but would advocate sensible and reasonable purchasing and a kind word to staff, it will go a long way at the moment.
Stay safe folks
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Young Bulla on March 22, 2020, 01:14:43 PM

I'm sure I read somewhere a bloke in the Isle of Man had been arrested for refusing to self isolate and was facing a fine of up to £10,000
[/quote]
Not entirely certain of this, but afaik this chap is of no fixed abode and the island has no homeless shelters - local jungle drums quote him as handing himself in and not arrested on the street.
I am in a rather odd situation myself as my employer let me go in January due to B®€×|¥ uncertainties (and a big factory in Penang making the same thing only cheaper) so claiming JSA at the mo'.  Thing is, I am still expected to be pounding the streets, asking in every shop, cafe ,factory etc for a minimum of 35 hours a week seeking employment, but not allowed into the benefit office to report on progress!  (Couple of interviews done that sounded positive and two for next week, will let you know how I get on.)
All the best
Stan
Edit to add
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-51974140 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-51974140)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 22, 2020, 01:35:48 PM
Thanks for the link, Stan. Glad to see sense prevailed all round.
Very best wishes in the job hunt.

Quote from: Young Bulla on March 22, 2020, 01:14:43 PM
Thing is, I am still expected to be pounding the streets, asking in every shop, cafe ,factory etc for a minimum of 35 hours a week seeking employment, but not allowed into the benefit office to report on progress!

I'm quite sure those who make the rules would soon change them if they had to abide by them.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on March 22, 2020, 01:48:16 PM
Good luck with the interviews Stan.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on March 22, 2020, 02:20:36 PM
Quote from: steve836 on March 22, 2020, 09:36:38 AM
Suppliers aren't helping much. As I am 73 with COPD (mild I admit) and having missed most of last summer due to complications following a cancer op.,we have decided to avoid all face to face contact, only to find we cannot book a slot for home delivery. Three nights on the trot I waited up till midnight (the time when a new day should become available) but although the new day appeared it still said no slots were available.

@steve836 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3057) Have you mentioned this on the Helping Hnds Thread??? I'm sure there's soneone from this Forum who lives near you that can help out!!

Anyone??

Cheers

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on March 22, 2020, 04:00:10 PM
Quote from: Calnefoxile on March 22, 2020, 02:20:36 PM
Quote from: steve836 on March 22, 2020, 09:36:38 AM
Suppliers aren't helping much. As I am 73 with COPD (mild I admit) and having missed most of last summer due to complications following a cancer op.,we have decided to avoid all face to face contact, only to find we cannot book a slot for home delivery. Three nights on the trot I waited up till midnight (the time when a new day should become available) but although the new day appeared it still said no slots were available.

@steve836 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3057) Have you mentioned this on the Helping Hnds Thread??? I'm sure there's soneone from this Forum who lives near you that can help out!!

Anyone??

Cheers

Neal.

Thanks Neal. We are OK for a bit and hopefully things will start to pick up when all the greedy beggars have filled their garages and freezers.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on March 22, 2020, 09:33:56 PM
Quote from: railsquid on March 22, 2020, 06:10:53 AM
Good grief, and supplies of facepalm are running critically low as it is.

In other news, I've had two second-hand reports that UK television has been reporting that life in Japan is somehow running as normal - rest assured it isn't, schools as well as "public gathering places" have been closed since the start of March, tourism is dead, restaurants etc. are very empty and people are being very circumspect. The cherry blossom season (basically a massive excuse to hang out in dense throngs in parks) is verboten.

Thank goodness I read that again, initially I thought you had said: "basically a massive excuse to hang out in dense thongs in parks".
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: EtchedPixels on March 22, 2020, 09:46:17 PM
Only place I can find that is still doing deliveries sanely is our milkman. Fingers crossed they'll fulfill our slightly updated order to include some butter and other stuff (they've branched out a lot in what they sell since the 1970s). Will find out in the morning.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on March 23, 2020, 09:23:18 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on March 22, 2020, 09:33:56 PM
Quote from: railsquid on March 22, 2020, 06:10:53 AM
Good grief, and supplies of facepalm are running critically low as it is.

In other news, I've had two second-hand reports that UK television has been reporting that life in Japan is somehow running as normal - rest assured it isn't, schools as well as "public gathering places" have been closed since the start of March, tourism is dead, restaurants etc. are very empty and people are being very circumspect. The cherry blossom season (basically a massive excuse to hang out in dense throngs in parks) is verboten.


Thank goodness I read that again, initially I thought you had said: "basically a massive excuse to hang out in dense thongs in parks".

I didn't see that when I read it but I reccon we all have dirty minds :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on March 23, 2020, 11:01:23 AM
Oh dear. Now I have a rather unsavoury image of thick thongs in my mind.  :o

Thongs for the memory, guys.

:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 23, 2020, 11:08:25 AM
An example of a thick thong...........

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on March 25, 2020, 09:49:51 PM
Yesterdays happy hiatus has passed. This evening I am Mr Angry once again.

Some Tesco staff I met encountered today not social distancing.

Many shoppers in  Tesco Lincoln also failing to act with any sense of safety or regard for others.

Morons continuing to treat the situation as a holiday, with hundreds going to the Peak District (as an example) to walk the hills and moors.

An Edale (Peak District) Farmer disinfecting his gates due to yesterday's hoards passing through, challenged one of the above and told him to go home. For this he was punched up to 15 times!

Today a 21 year old in England died. She had no pre-existing condition.

FOR GODS SAKE! WHEN WILL EVERYONE WAKE UP AND GET THE MESSAGE? THIS IS A LIFE AND DEATH SITUATION WE ARE IN. MORE THAN 20,000 PEOPLE HAVE DIED. MANY, MANY MORE WILL JOIN THEM. STAY AT HOME!

End of rant. I can't say I feel better for it.

Time for a rum and coke I think.

And I'm supposedly teetotal!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 25, 2020, 10:04:37 PM
Sounds good to me. Won't fix anything, but it'll calm you down.  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on March 25, 2020, 10:25:18 PM
Nose ones hangry here. hic :pint:

Dish yoo no? Teeeeetolaters gets pished eezy peezy. hic  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jpendle on March 25, 2020, 11:00:03 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on March 23, 2020, 11:08:25 AM
An example of a thick thong...........



I do hope that you were NOT referring to the attire of the young lady in the photo? "Julia, Gerald's chum with whom he writes poems"  :beers:

John P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on April 08, 2020, 12:50:48 PM
 :veryangry:

BBC!

Misleading headline published on the website today saying "all cats should be kept indoors".

Vets association advice is ONLY those from households with people showing symptoms should TRY to keep cats in IF SAFE and possible.

Headline since changed, but I am sorry but in a country where idiots are burning 5G masts how many cats could suffer because of this?

I am worried about my two now, I would be heartbroken if somebody did something to them  :(

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: javlinfaw7 on April 08, 2020, 01:03:07 PM
 This may explain a local shortage of cat litter. Shelfs of my local Lidl and Asda are empty
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on April 08, 2020, 02:16:25 PM
Quote from: javlinfaw7 on April 08, 2020, 01:03:07 PM
This may explain a local shortage of cat litter. Shields of local lidl and asda empty

No, that's because most cat litter is made from "Fullers Earth", which is an excellent decontaminent for fallout should there be a nuclear war, allegedly. :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 08, 2020, 03:13:49 PM
A couple of days ago I heard a zookeeper in the USA had infected a tiger and cubs with Covid-19.
Do we therefore act as the loonies against pets?
Face it, we can't trust the brainless gits to stop clumping together. There's just no hope for us when so many villages are missing their idiots.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on April 08, 2020, 03:23:42 PM
Re possible retaliation against pets.....

By the application of some diabolical logic it follows that as people are evidently responsible for transmitting the virus to other people, the idiot fringe will soon be picking on...... themselves! :o

Or you and me. :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on April 08, 2020, 03:53:24 PM
perhaps time to remove all heath and safety labels / signs.

those with no brain cells will die, and a stronger gene pool go forward.

only joking, probably  :hmmm: :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on April 08, 2020, 03:57:26 PM
I read somewhere that humans can transmit the virus to cats, but not the other way around.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: woodbury22uk on April 08, 2020, 04:03:04 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on April 08, 2020, 03:13:49 PM
Face it, we can't trust the brainless gits to stop clumping together. There's just no hope for us when so many villages are missing their idiots.

I think we have a cluster of others' village idiots here who have no concept of a 2 metre spacing in spite of the best efforts of my local supermarket marking lane lines, direction arrows, and lateral separation warnings, backed up by a verbal advice on what to do when entering the store. First shop for two weeks, and hopefully none of the idiots shared their infection with too many others.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on April 08, 2020, 04:06:55 PM
Quote from: TrevL on April 08, 2020, 02:16:25 PM
Quote from: javlinfaw7 on April 08, 2020, 01:03:07 PM
This may explain a local shortage of cat litter. Shields of local lidl and asda empty

No, that's because most cat litter is made from "Fullers Earth", which is an excellent decontaminent for fallout should there be a nuclear war, allegedly. :D

I remember the first time, back in the late 60's, that I went in the gas chamber, made the mistake of holding my respirator 'face up', and a kindly DI sprinkled fullers earth into it.....

never, ever, made that mistake again  :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 08, 2020, 09:21:20 PM
Quote from: woodbury22uk on April 08, 2020, 04:03:04 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on April 08, 2020, 03:13:49 PM
Face it, we can't trust the brainless gits to stop clumping together. There's just no hope for us when so many villages are missing their idiots.

I think we have a cluster of others' village idiots here who have no concept of a 2 metre spacing in spite of the best efforts of my local supermarket marking lane lines, direction arrows, and lateral separation warnings, backed up by a verbal advice on what to do when entering the store. First shop for two weeks, and hopefully none of the idiots shared their infection with too many others.

Well here are 30 or so of 'em.................

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/cricketers-run-police-enforcing-coronavirus-142756779.html

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on April 09, 2020, 08:51:46 AM
Quote from: class37025 on April 08, 2020, 04:06:55 PM
Quote from: TrevL on April 08, 2020, 02:16:25 PM
Quote from: javlinfaw7 on April 08, 2020, 01:03:07 PM
This may explain a local shortage of cat litter. Shields of local lidl and asda empty

No, that's because most cat litter is made from "Fullers Earth", which is an excellent decontaminent for fallout should there be a nuclear war, allegedly. :D

I remember the first time, back in the late 60's, that I went in the gas chamber, made the mistake of holding my respirator 'face up', and a kindly DI sprinkled fullers earth into it.....

never, ever, made that mistake again  :censored:

@class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311)  I saw that happen to a guy ahead of me, made sure I always kept my respirator well away from the Rock apes after that  ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on April 09, 2020, 12:44:34 PM
today was going quite well, hairy beast had a run in the [empty] first field, on his long lead through the woods and through the corner of the second field, the the third field was empty, so off the lead and acting like the idiot he is ....

suddenly yelped, and started limping.....

went over to him and he was favouring his right rear leg, didn't want to put any weight on it ...

got him to lay down and checked the pad, not cut but obviously tender ...

looked around where he had been when he yelped, and found several beer? bottle tops, some flat side up, but a couple serated edge up, I'm guessing he had stepped on one of those and luckily it had not cut his pad.

picked them all up and piled them by the nearby bench, and noticed several bottles chucked into the hedge, and a cardboard box up in the trees.....

so I'm guess the local yobs have been out there for a party, and obviously to  :censored: idle to take their rubbish home with them  :veryangry:

luckily, after a short while hairy was back to his usual idiot self, and has stopped limping.

thought fo a moment I was going to have to carry 32 kg of husky home  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on April 09, 2020, 12:48:31 PM
Glad he seems to be okay now - and that you did not have to carry him home  :sweat:. Just shows how thoughtless and selfish some people are.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on April 09, 2020, 04:56:32 PM
ok, hands up, I do not tend to be a great fan of our [invisible] police force around here.

when you see a plod vehicle it usually means that there are doughnuts at Tesco, can't remember the last time I saw a plod around here, many years ago we used to have a local bobbie who would ride down our road every couple of days, and even stop and chat.

now of course we have, in addition to a chief constable, a Police and Crime Commissioner, always on the tv, but the cost of her 'office' probably cost us several actual plods.

but I see that the latest thing is to spit at plods, while exclaiming 'I've got covid-19'.....

my personal response would be  .....

tazer .. does that hurt?

followed by size nine in a tender place... does that hurt ?

then in the back of a van ... 'you can't put me in there' .. watch me you  :censored:

then court ....
then prison ...

oh of course the govt have decided to release hundreds of crims in case they might catch covid-19 in prison...

so rethink my response ...

forget taser ...
just use a 9mm.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on April 09, 2020, 05:15:37 PM
The above comment prompted me to remember something in my local council tax renewal notice:

Council precept +2.0%
Adult Social Care +2.0%
Town Special expenses -0.2%
Police and Crime Commissioner +4.6%
Fire Authority +2.0%
Town Council +2.0%
Total difference +3.9%

The sooner the bolded item is removed (preferably by removing the post) the better

NB: Names of Council and Town has been omitted to protect the guilty...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on April 09, 2020, 05:41:05 PM
agree entirely....

Chief constable was in charge of the police ...

then replaced by PCC....

oops, not replaced, simply another level of bureaucracy added, at great expense ...

now where do we find the money for that ? 

make some plods redundant, and up the council tax ...

will that mean more cops on the beat ....

NO

but the ones left will now drive around, sometimes, in BMW 4x4s,

remember panda cars ?

local bobbies ?

pointy helmets ?

coppers who knew their local criminals ?

now you get, assuming you can get a reply, robo cop turn up if you're lucky....

but you can always spend your time listening to the latest pile of  :poop: about how important your call is, or how devoted your PCC is to providing a superb service, without any actual plods, while you are being burgled / murdered / raped / abused ...

please fill in our feedback form  :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 10, 2020, 10:09:30 AM
[gmod]I think the point has been (over) made now. Different age groups will have different perceptions. Being over 60 I do remember how life was but have to accept change is not necessarily to the good.[/gmod]
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on April 10, 2020, 03:12:53 PM
I bet you remember Dixon of Dock Green, Mick.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on April 10, 2020, 03:16:54 PM
and Z Cars  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on April 10, 2020, 03:54:15 PM
Softly, softly. :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 10, 2020, 04:11:39 PM
Yes, yes and yes :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on April 10, 2020, 04:36:21 PM
wasn't softly, softly actually an off shoot of Z Cars ?

seem to remember that initially CID were in Z cars, but later they seemed to be more uniforms, while softly softly took over the 'detective' side of things.

might be wrong, it was a long time ago ...

IIRC Ford Zephyrs  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mr bachmann on April 10, 2020, 05:04:51 PM
Good morning here is the BBc 8 am news ... This morning at 6 am at Strangeways Prison  xxxxxxxxx  was executed ..

yes we all remember the good old days  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on April 10, 2020, 06:08:26 PM
Quote from: class37025 on April 10, 2020, 04:36:21 PM
wasn't softly, softly actually an off shoot of Z Cars ?

I believe you are correct Chris

Quote from: class37025 on April 10, 2020, 04:36:21 PM

IIRC Ford Zephyrs  :smiley-laughing:


They used to have the nickname 'Flying Pigs', (not because they were used by the Police, but because they were a pig to drive!).

Addit:

Taken from 'Wikipedia' -

Softly, Softly is a British television drama series, produced by the BBC and screened on BBC 1 from January 1966. It was created as a spin-off from the series Z-Cars, which ended its fifth series run in December 1965.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on April 10, 2020, 08:47:04 PM
I'm too young for Z cars and Softly Softly. I do remember Juliet Bravo. Had a bit of a crush for Kate Longton. Or was it her uniform and the authority she held..................  :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on April 10, 2020, 09:17:37 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on April 10, 2020, 04:11:39 PM
Yes, yes and yes :P

What about "No Hiding Place"?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on April 10, 2020, 09:27:35 PM
Original run of both Z-cars and Softly Softly were done live from the Gosta Green studios in Birmingham. I joined just as Pebble Mill was opening, but heard all sorts of stories about the show. As it was done live, the actors often had to get changed behind a bit of scenery and Stratford Johns used to tell a story about dashing through a door on the set and straight into a Frank Windsor changing his trousers.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on April 10, 2020, 09:37:13 PM
Didn't Dixon of Dock Green used to come on after Dr Who? Or am I hallucinating?

If I'm hallucinating, just say I'm hallucinating.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on April 13, 2020, 05:27:32 PM
Quote from: Bealman on April 10, 2020, 09:37:13 PM
Didn't Dixon of Dock Green used to come on after Dr Who? Or am I hallucinating?

If I'm hallucinating, just say I'm hallucinating.

If you're hallucinating, I've taken the same exotic substance, as that's my recollection, too...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on April 17, 2020, 11:42:04 AM
Admirable intentions, but......

We're all doomed! :veryangry:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/clap-for-carers-westminster-bridge-social-distancing-a4416691.html (https://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/clap-for-carers-westminster-bridge-social-distancing-a4416691.html)

So much for social distancing, staying at home, and police enforcement of the lockdown.

This, and other items in the news worldwide today makes me despair.

The virus in the world seems to be some of the people! :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on April 17, 2020, 11:51:20 AM
Just watched the clip - words fail me!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: signalman1 on April 17, 2020, 12:56:37 PM
You just couldn't make it up could you  :veryangry:
Even with a police presence the basics are being ignored
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on April 17, 2020, 01:36:01 PM
but it makes good tv news footage  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on April 17, 2020, 01:39:18 PM
Dunno about good, but it's a lot easier than looking for some real news
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on April 17, 2020, 01:41:58 PM
as always, never let the truth get in the way of a story,

and it appears, don't let advice / safety requirements get in the way of a 'good' clip  :veryangry:

what  :censored: thought this would be a good idea ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on April 17, 2020, 01:46:21 PM
No offence to any Londoners on here however, but they wonder why it is such a hot spot for the virus down there  :doh: I noticed an article about a family from London who decided to do a 500 mile round trip to the Lake District last weekend to do some fishing  :goggleeyes:
How many more need to die before these muppets get the message  :help:
Yes I know other regions have their idiots but come on guys, smell the coffee  :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jpendle on April 17, 2020, 02:59:28 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on April 17, 2020, 01:46:21 PM
No offence to any Londoners on here however, but they wonder why it is such a hot spot for the virus down there  :doh:

High population density, poor housing, & poverty.

I live in Weld county Colorado which is mainly rural and is relatively poor, it has 4 times the number of cases as Larimer county next door, which is more developed and is generally wealthier. Weld has slightly fewer residents than Larimer as well.

John P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on April 17, 2020, 03:12:45 PM
Quote from: jpendle on April 17, 2020, 02:59:28 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on April 17, 2020, 01:46:21 PM
No offence to any Londoners on here however, but they wonder why it is such a hot spot for the virus down there  :doh:

High population density, poor housing, & poverty.

I live in Weld county Colorado which is mainly rural and is relatively poor, it has 4 times the number of cases as Larimer county next door, which is more developed and is generally wealthier. Weld has slightly fewer residents than Larimer as well.

John P

I appreciate what you are saying @jpendle (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3871) , but you could say the same for Birmingham, Manchester, Glasgow, unfortunately some folks still don't get it, as that video shows
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on April 17, 2020, 03:16:30 PM
Stupidity and ignorance live everywhere and are legion.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 17, 2020, 03:23:51 PM
This might get removed but.............................
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on April 17, 2020, 03:45:18 PM
while possibly not expected from HM, I could see Prince Phillip saying it, even more forcefully.

lets be honest, he has a reputation for calling a spade a  :censored: shovel, and meaning it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on April 17, 2020, 03:58:02 PM
Quote from: steve836 on April 17, 2020, 01:39:18 PM
Dunno about good, but it's a lot easier than looking for some real news

agree entirely, anyone seen anything on the news recently about those flooded out earlier in the year ?

at one point, I doubt they could move for reporters and tv crews,  now yesterday's news, get on with it, better stories...

a sad refection, IMHO, of today's so called society.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on April 17, 2020, 04:08:04 PM
good ole doris and queeny following the advice to stay at home,o hang on ones buggered off to winsor whilst the others at chequers,both leaving london for there second home.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on April 17, 2020, 04:26:29 PM
Infected Crown Princes travelling to their vacation home in Scotland, cough cough.

Here in sunny Japan there exists a form of interactive entertainment called Pachinko (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pachinko), which can be best described as pinball-on-steroids featuring gambling, anyway it appears to be an effective way of separating the kind of people who can queue up outside such establishments before the 10am weekday opening time from their money (and sending some of it to finance North Korea's ongoing missile campaign against their coastal waters, apparently). Anyway due to the current well-known circumstances, these kinds of establishments in Tokyo have been closed, so what happens - cars with Tokyo number plates turn up at these kinds of establishments outside Tokyo.

Stupidity - it's global.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Papyrus on April 17, 2020, 05:07:31 PM
Quote from: Papyrus on March 17, 2020, 08:55:14 PM
I'm a mild-mannered person who doesn't tend to trouble this thread much, but I am feeling slightly dischuffed tonight...

In view of likely difficulties getting out to the shops in the next few weeks we decided to put my wife's son on our car insurance as he doesn't have a car at the moment and it might come in useful. The online amendment went easily enough and the premium went up by £50 which wasn't a surprise. What did get my goat was the £25 'administration charge'. Excuse me? Who was the one who did all the administration? Twiddling the mouse and tapping the keys? I got the confirmation of the extra driver in about a minute, and the updated insurance certificate was available immediately. It was obviously all done without any human intervention whatsoever, so what was the £25 charge for? I calculate the insurance company's computer must get paid at the rate of about £1500 an hour! For doing sod all...

I don't think I will be renewing with them next time.  :veryangry:

Cheers,

Chris

Well, I followed @dannyboy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4209) 's advice (Reply 6303) and wrote a polite but firm letter to the RAC. I finally got a reply saying that they were justified in charging 25 quid (terms and conditions..., had to inform the underwriters..., tea and a doughnut while we did it...) BUT they gave me my money back! Result!  :D

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on April 17, 2020, 05:30:09 PM
Glad to hear it Chris.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: weave on April 17, 2020, 06:05:19 PM
Hi @railsquid (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3832) ,

You mentioning Pachinko reminded me of a song by the Pogues nearly 30 years ago. Didn't know what it was about at the time, just thought they'd had too much booze.

Sorry all, off topic, but let's just call it a little musical interlude for a short break from the idiots out there......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RDO-0eqsCQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RDO-0eqsCQ)

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on April 20, 2020, 01:52:06 PM
 :veryangry: :censored:

Ho Seasons

I am aware a lot of people have it tough now, so I apologise for a first world problem rant.

The aforementioned holiday company have just strong-armed my in-law out of £175 under threat of another £1100 leaving her account on Friday.

We had a booking with them for July.

We were not going to cancel, as we still wanted to go.

Deposit was paid months ago, balance due Friday.

In-law received an e-mail today saying the holiday will be cancelled and that vouchers will be offered for use in the future. However, if a future date is more expensive WE would be liable for extra. Oh and if you decline, still loose deposit.

In-law was annoyed but we decided deposit was only £75, so what the hell cancel and don't use them again.

Ohhhh no.

Upon ringing to confirm this, in-law informed £75 was an error, should have been £300. So either pay £175 more (they only want £250 deposit now, "good will" for their error  ::)) or have £1,100 extracted for vouchers which probably won't cover a future holiday.

:censored:

I am annoyed my in-law went along with this before I had time to look into the legality of this, it seems deeply dodgy to me.

As it is I am still inclined to take them on.

We have a separate holiday at a nice holiday park in Wales which we can't go on in May, because of the situation. That company have been simply wonderful, constant updates and offered either a full refund or no cost move to another date, plus £100 on site spending money as an incentive.

So in summary:

Bluestone  :thumbsup:
Hi Seasons  :poop:

Skyline2uk

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on April 20, 2020, 02:09:09 PM
I can not remember just where, but I am sure I have read that, as the holiday company have cancelled the booking, you can demand a cash refund and are not obliged to accept vouchers. If no one comes back with anything further, I will see if I can confirm later.
@Skyline2uk (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1081)  I do not know whether this relevant to your in-laws circumstances, but this link is the first I have found -
https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/11411591/refund-holiday-cancelled-coronavirus/ (https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/11411591/refund-holiday-cancelled-coronavirus/)

and have a look at MoneySavingExpert -

https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/2020/02/coronavirus-travel-help-and-your-rights/ (https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/2020/02/coronavirus-travel-help-and-your-rights/)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on April 20, 2020, 02:23:16 PM
That sucks, and does sound a tad dodgy. I'd take em on.

Has me wondering what will happen with my Inghams booking to Austria in late August.  £300 deposit paid months ago and due amount of over £3000 scheduled for payment in early June. At present Inghams are closed until the end of this month, so no idea whether they will alter their standard contract terms: alternative with us picking up any increases, or vouchers.

We shall probably have to cancel and take the hit of the deposit, (insurance won't cover it of course) but some companies are, like the Bluestone situation, taking a more circumspect view. Hilton hotels for instance are issuing full refunds to anybody booked with them for virus related cancellations, even if the booking was a non-refundable one originally. Sadly my airport hotel booking is with Ibis, who are not, yet, being so very understanding and reasonable.

Maybe things will change, so I won't cancel until June, if it comes to that. But if more punters across all holiday companies raise the same sort of complaints then maybe the industry will take notice and realise that goodwill at this time is protecting their future business prospects.
Very unlikely I know, and I can see and appreciate their situation is not straight forward, and every company has its own staff and costs to cover and protect.


And I think David might be right about the situation when a holiday company cancel. I'll take a look at my Inghams contract notes.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on April 20, 2020, 02:30:36 PM

@Skyline2uk (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1081) you may want to peruse Martin Lewis's site https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/2020/02/coronavirus-travel-help-and-your-rights/ (https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/2020/02/coronavirus-travel-help-and-your-rights/) for sound advice.

Regards

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on April 20, 2020, 02:44:49 PM
Thanks chaps

I will add your helpful links to my reading list.

@dannyboy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4209) : That was my first thought, I was sure basic consumer law states that if a company cannot provide a service a full cash refund is required.

Like I said, annoyed the in-law caved, but it was probably a bit intimidating.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on April 20, 2020, 11:13:50 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on April 20, 2020, 02:44:49 PM
Thanks chaps

I will add your helpful links to my reading list.

@dannyboy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4209) : That was my first thought, I was sure basic consumer law states that if a company cannot provide a service a full cash refund is required.

Like I said, annoyed the in-law caved, but it was probably a bit intimidating.

Skyline2uk

Adam @Skyline2uk (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1081) if the holiday company cancels it then you are entitled to a full refund (not vouchers or credits). I would definitely take it further as it sounds like the in-laws felt, and were, intimidated. They should also have a cooling off period which may well apply here for the extra payment as a minimum. If needs be threaten them with Martin Lewis. As much as I detest the man he does have a good track record especially with his TV show these days. No company will want to be bad mouthed on national TV after all.
Good luck with this.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on April 22, 2020, 09:19:23 AM
@Skyline2uk (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1081)
The latest Martin Lewis email has just arrived -
https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/2020/02/coronavirus-travel-help-and-your-rights/?utm (https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/2020/02/coronavirus-travel-help-and-your-rights/?utm)
a fair bit to read, but may help your in-laws.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on April 24, 2020, 10:23:16 PM
Argggh! I went on Rails of Sheffield's website today to order some decoders and some decoder sockets, selected the "in-stock" option, made my choice, ordered and selected the extra cost option of delivery tomorrow. Checked on my order later and found the decoders marked as "unconsigned". A later check showed them as not being in stock and only ordered from the supplier when you order and the sockets also changed to unconsigned ... yet the same decoders are available in a 5-pack, in-stock (at a higher cost per unit?). I don't know why they came up as in-stock when I was ordering and I would have ordered 5 instead of 3 to ensure that I got it tomorrow. Now God knows how long it'll be and even the sockets would have been of use, as I could have got on with wiring them in and put in blanking plugs for testing.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on April 29, 2020, 11:28:06 AM
On Monday, I got through to Rails and they advised that their system would have brought up the decoders as in stock, as they did have at least one, but they didn't have the three I ordered and it doesn't flag that up when you place the order :(

Anyway, I cancelled and ordered a pack of five (versatile), including harnesses that I can use, from Hattons and paid for next day delivery. They took two days.

On Arrival this morning, the DCC Concepts box inside is marked as "ZN68 5 x 6-pin plus NEM651 & NEM652 Harnesses", but the contents were "ZN6D 5 x Direct 6-pin NEM651" and no harnesses.

Arghhhh! I've got two locos in bits waiting for these.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 29, 2020, 12:33:08 PM
40 minutes into 'In the factory' last night with 'Our Girl' last episode being recorded and a film at 10pm also set to record and 'dink' - power cut :doh: :censored:
The only thing possible to do (apart from just go to bed) was to play 'Spider Solitaire' on my laptop.
Power came back on at 23.15. Luckily my laptop was charged up or it would have been bed with no bread and gruel.
Guess I'll have to watch Michelle Keegan 'Our Girl' on iPlayer and watch the repeat of 'In the Factory'. Not too worried about the film.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on May 01, 2020, 10:44:37 AM
Quote from: stevewalker on April 29, 2020, 11:28:06 AM
On Monday, I got through to Rails and they advised that their system would have brought up the decoders as in stock, as they did have at least one, but they didn't have the three I ordered and it doesn't flag that up when you place the order :(

Anyway, I cancelled and ordered a pack of five (versatile), including harnesses that I can use, from Hattons and paid for next day delivery. They took two days.

On Arrival this morning, the DCC Concepts box inside is marked as "ZN68 5 x 6-pin plus NEM651 & NEM652 Harnesses", but the contents were "ZN6D 5 x Direct 6-pin NEM651" and no harnesses.

Arghhhh! I've got two locos in bits waiting for these.

I phoned Hattons on Wednesday and they said they'd try and send out the harnesses, but that they might need me to send the existing delivery back and send out a new pack. I was told that they would email me to tell me which. No email was received. Phoned on Thursday and told that they would send the harnesses. Having paid for next day delivery and they were not in the post this morning, I phoned again, only to find that they've not sent them out yet :(

They then said that they will push the warehouse to send them out today, via Royal Mail (so delivery next week!), but agreed to try and send them "next-day delivery" when I pointed out that'd the original order included extra cost for next-day DPD delivery.

I wouldn't mind so much, but these locos are in bits waiting, I don't want to move them as they are laid out in order, but they are in the way of me doing other things.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on May 01, 2020, 11:19:09 AM
On 23rd April I ordered a lawn mower from a DIY chain. The local branch is only 20 miles from me and the staff are nice and it is a good store, but of course, it is shut, so I had to use the on line ordering service. On 27th April, the lawnmower was shown as sent and the order completed. I clicked on the 'track order' bit which takes me to the An Post website, but I get the message that the entered number, (I have not entered a  :censored: number!), is not recognised. On 28th April, I use the on line messaging service to ask which courier is being used and the following day again used the service to ask for a tracking number. I am still awaiting a reply. Today, after ten minutes searching, I found the telephone number of the head office. I rang it and after two minutes, I got cut off.  So I tried again - same result.  :veryangry: I realise and accept that the current situation is causing some problems for companies, but I am not impressed.  :no:. I might use the on line message service to tell them to cancel the order and see if that gets a response  :hmmm:.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 01, 2020, 01:49:56 PM
probably not, after all that just means they have your money and mower, and you'd just be fighting to get your money back, between cutting the lawn with a pair of scissors  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on May 01, 2020, 02:25:07 PM
I use the term 'lawn' loosely. As I live in the middle of a field, it should be more accurately called a tamed patch of grass. I don't think much of the scissors idea Alan @class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311) , the area to cut is over 100' x 70', so it would be a bit tedious. The rest of 'the field'. which is half as big again, I leave to the farmer who owns the land surrounding my house - he has a grass cutter thingymyjig that he puts at the back of his tractor - only takes him about 30 minutes to do it a couple of times a year. And if I did ask for my money back, it would probably take weeks.  :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: exmouthcraig on May 01, 2020, 02:46:38 PM
@dannyboy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4209) you need to treat yourself to a few sheep David, I'm sure Louisa would happily have them now the lawn for you  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on May 01, 2020, 02:50:14 PM
 :laughabovepost: I wonder if I could get her interested in knitting?  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: JBQFC on May 01, 2020, 07:17:51 PM
Royal mail left my Hatton's parcel of 3 dapol class 33 on the doorstep in full view in the pouring rain no card through the door only new it had come was an email from royal mail saying it had been delivered   thankfully even though the box was well wet the models where dry :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on May 01, 2020, 07:27:15 PM
According to Parcelfarce, the aircraft that left Tokyo International with my package, on the 26th April, still hasn't arrived in the UK. I don't know who the carrier is but if they can keep an aircraft in the air with all that freight, without refuelling, crew changes, emptying toilets etc then let me tell you, they are going to revolutionise air travel.
Or
It could be parcel farce are blaming their usual incompetence on covid-19 but will still expect me to pay for the privilege of them taking their time to do things.
And this actually has sod all to do with corona virus, they do this every time, delay packages for 7-10 days and it truly pisses me off having paid a premium for EMS shipping from Japan.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 11, 2020, 10:46:46 AM
First let me sound off about the cretins who thought it would be a good idea to drive to Brighton this last weekend (some from as far away as Milton Keynes). I believe the police stopped and fined 19 of them. I don't know what the penalty is (have heard a figure of £60) but IMO it should be £2000 and 3 points on their licence. That actually might stop the  :censored:
Now to this mornings BBC news where they had a reporter at Manchester Airport and, to be fair, he was wearing a mask and gloves as the airport was asking folks to turn up like that. However, he reported if you turned up without mask and gloves they would be provided, and he pulled from a tray of masks one of them to show the camera. I was sat there thinking 'Don't put it back - don't put it back' but, no, he put it back in the tray for some poor sod to pick later on.
Some people have no more sense than they were born with.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 11, 2020, 10:51:18 AM
And some reporting of other stupid acts . I hope everyone well, quite happy staying in when not required.and only pop out to shop for the weekly lot . Stay safe
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on May 11, 2020, 12:23:46 PM
Last evening I downloaded and installed a Windows update. Three hours of inactivity later, I went to bed. Opened the laptop up this morning and over three hours later, I am back to normal.  :veryangry: :censored: I had to go on line using the mobile phone to find a solution, the first one did not work, but the second one, after the screen showed an 'Attempting Repair' message for 90 minutes, did the job. It is good that Windows can repair itself, but if Windows had not  :censored: up the computer in the first place, it would not have had to repair iteself!  :veryangry:. Over six hours of my life lost.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on May 11, 2020, 02:51:49 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on May 11, 2020, 10:46:46 AM
First let me sound off about the cretins who thought it would be a good idea to drive to Brighton this last weekend (some from as far away as Milton Keynes). I believe the police stopped and fined 19 of them. I don't know what the penalty is (have heard a figure of £60) but IMO it should be £2000 and 3 points on their licence. That actually might stop the  :censored:
Now to this mornings BBC news where they had a reporter at Manchester Airport and, to be fair, he was wearing a mask and gloves as the airport was asking folks to turn up like that. However, he reported if you turned up without mask and gloves they would be provided, and he pulled from a tray of masks one of them to show the camera. I was sat there thinking 'Don't put it back - don't put it back' but, no, he put it back in the tray for some poor sod to pick later on.
Some people have no more sense than they were born with.

Along the same lines I went to a well known DIY store on Friday. Waited around 20 minutes in the sunny queue and was offered a trolley which had the handle wiped when I accepted. I (and the wife) then went about our shopping staying 2m apart from everyone. Proceeded to the till where I had to put my items on the checkout desk, the young lady then picked them up (no gloves) to scan them and I had to put them back in the trolley to take to the car. So basically if I had the dreaded COVID-19 then she now probably has it and if she had it already then I probably have it too along with anyone else who was served by her. It wouldn't be so bad but I only went for 2 pieces of hardboard for my back scene and ended up spending £80 on other stuff because I took the wife!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on May 11, 2020, 03:26:05 PM
I don't worry to much about things like that - anyone could have handled the items already in the store anyway. Unless you have an open cut on your hand, the risk is of transferring the virus to your mouth, nose or eyes (or onto a surface that may transfer it back to your or someone else's hands later). Once I enter a shop, I concentrate on not putting my hands to my face. On returning to my car, I use alcohol gel on my hands immediately.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 11, 2020, 03:26:56 PM
couldn't you claim only one person was allowed in, not families ?

might have at least saved your wallet. :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on May 11, 2020, 03:29:49 PM
Quote from: class37025 on May 11, 2020, 03:26:56 PM
couldn't you claim only one person was allowed in, not families ?

might have at least saved your wallet. :)

NOW you say it  :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 11, 2020, 04:43:18 PM
ok, it was HB's idea.

at present laying under the dining room table with a pig's trotter.


NO, him, not me  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on May 11, 2020, 05:01:08 PM
QuoteProceeded to the till where I had to put my items on the checkout desk, the young lady then picked them up (no gloves) to scan them and I had to put them back in the trolley to take to the car. So basically if I had the dreaded COVID-19 then she now probably has it and if she had it already then I probably have it too along with anyone else who was served by her.
And how would wearing gloves helped?watch the cashiers and see how many change or clean there gloves between customers,then compare with those not wearing gloves.all gloves achieve is to give the wearer a false sense of security and pose a bigger risk of virus tranfer to others
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on May 11, 2020, 05:13:44 PM
Quote from: stevewalker on May 11, 2020, 03:26:05 PM
Once I enter a shop, I concentrate on not putting my hands to my face. On returning to my car, I use alcohol gel on my hands immediately.

I do the same.
Last week at Tesco I made a point of watching other shoppers and staff to get an idea of just how often they were touching their faces with their hands, gloves on or not (it makes little difference as the virus can be carried on either), as they went about their business.

Frankly, it's rather frightening to see just how easily this virus could spread, as face touching is evidently endemic!

Add to that the continued reduction in the numbers wearing masks and gloves compared to a month and more ago that I also note each time I go shopping.

Familiarity is breeding contempt.

And death.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on May 11, 2020, 05:57:17 PM
It's me that wears the gloves,  when I go out for essentials. I put them on with mask,  then leave the car get the shopping. Return, carefully take off,  put mask and gloves on the dash,  so when I need them next they will be safe to use again. Stuff bought,  gets either wiped down with disinfectant or soap or "parked" for several days before use.

Tomorrow will be my second time out in five weeks,  I have to go collect her and my prescriptions.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on May 11, 2020, 06:04:03 PM
Quotewhen I go out for essentials. I put them on with mask,  then leave the car get the shopping. Return, carefully take off,  put mask and gloves on the dash,  so when I need them next they will be safe to use again
so no cleaning of gloves between use?luvley surface for bugs to live before you smear them somewere else
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on May 11, 2020, 06:13:15 PM
Quote from: themadhippy on May 11, 2020, 06:04:03 PM
Quotewhen I go out for essentials. I put them on with mask,  then leave the car get the shopping. Return, carefully take off,  put mask and gloves on the dash,  so when I need them next they will be safe to use again
so no cleaning of gloves between use?luvley surface for bugs to live before you smear them somewere else

And don't forget the mask should be washed after each time it is worn. My GP pointed this out to me - again - this morning while he was taking blood out of my arm.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on May 11, 2020, 06:14:24 PM
Quote from: themadhippy on May 11, 2020, 06:04:03 PM
Quotewhen I go out for essentials. I put them on with mask,  then leave the car get the shopping. Return, carefully take off,  put mask and gloves on the dash,  so when I need them next they will be safe to use again
so no cleaning of gloves between use?luvley surface for bugs to live before you smear them somewere else
I've been out twice in 6 weeks,  both times were for essential food and perscrptions . No bug will live that long on a glove sat in the sunshine.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on May 11, 2020, 08:04:26 PM
Quote from: themadhippy on May 11, 2020, 05:01:08 PM
QuoteProceeded to the till where I had to put my items on the checkout desk, the young lady then picked them up (no gloves) to scan them and I had to put them back in the trolley to take to the car. So basically if I had the dreaded COVID-19 then she now probably has it and if she had it already then I probably have it too along with anyone else who was served by her.
And how would wearing gloves helped?watch the cashiers and see how many change or clean there gloves between customers,then compare with those not wearing gloves.all gloves achieve is to give the wearer a false sense of security and pose a bigger risk of virus tranfer to others

Gloves would help if sanitised between each use like her colleague handing out the trollies was doing. It's all down to reducing the risk as it is damn near impossible to remove the risk completely.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on May 12, 2020, 11:25:58 AM
Quote from: daffy on May 11, 2020, 05:13:44 PM
Frankly, it's rather frightening to see just how easily this virus could spread, as face touching is evidently endemic!

I reckon beardies are more at risk as beard stroking is even more difficult to resist than face touching :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on May 12, 2020, 11:32:22 AM
Quote from: joe cassidy on May 12, 2020, 11:25:58 AM
Quote from: daffy on May 11, 2020, 05:13:44 PM
Frankly, it's rather frightening to see just how easily this virus could spread, as face touching is evidently endemic!

I reckon beardies are more at risk as beard stroking is even more difficult to resist than face touching :)

Yes, I do find that folks keep wanting to stroke my beard, so my face mask helps stop that happening too. :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 12, 2020, 01:33:02 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-52616071 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-52616071)

Just beggars belief :'( :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on May 12, 2020, 01:42:38 PM
There needs to be a determined effort to find the person who did this and charge him with manslaughter, (unfortunately he can not be charged with murder).  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on May 12, 2020, 01:45:23 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on May 12, 2020, 01:42:38 PM
There needs to be a determined effort to find the person who did this and charge him with manslaughter, (unfortunately he can not be charged with murder).  >:(

Why not, you can't accidently spit on someone.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Portpatrick on May 12, 2020, 03:13:49 PM
Quote from: daffy on May 11, 2020, 06:13:15 PM
Quote from: themadhippy on May 11, 2020, 06:04:03 PM
Quotewhen I go out for essentials. I put them on with mask,  then leave the car get the shopping. Return, carefully take off,  put mask and gloves on the dash,  so when I need them next they will be safe to use again
so no cleaning of gloves between use?luvley surface for bugs to live before you smear them somewere else

I wear a washable mask for our weekly trip to Asda and wask it every time.  I still have a quantity of the Hibiscrub I was told to use to shower and wash hair  in the 5 days leading up to brain surgery last Feb.   Seems sensible to wash the mask using that as I have it.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on May 12, 2020, 03:34:22 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on May 12, 2020, 01:42:38 PM
There needs to be a determined effort to find the person who did this and charge him with manslaughter, (unfortunately he can not be charged with murder).  >:(

It doesn't matter, manslaughter can carry the same life sentence as murder if the circumstances warrant it and in this case, it was clearly a deliberate action, the possible consequences of which would have been clear, unlike much more arguable cases of negligence.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: honestjudge on May 12, 2020, 04:01:57 PM
You have to ask the question about the persons mental state. It's not a normal thing to do.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Portpatrick on May 12, 2020, 04:15:39 PM
I see that the prosecution would need to be alive to a possible mental state argument, but surely it is for the defence to actually present the evidence for that.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: rob_au on May 18, 2020, 07:00:03 AM
Flex-track and long, sharp curves ... I hate it!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on May 18, 2020, 08:14:12 AM
Quote from: dannyboy on May 12, 2020, 01:42:38 PM
There needs to be a determined effort to find the person who did this and charge him with manslaughter, (unfortunately he can not be charged with murder).  >:(

Police question suspect over London rail worker's coronavirus death (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/may/17/police-question-suspect-over-london-rail-workers-coronavirus-death)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Portpatrick on May 18, 2020, 08:43:21 AM
Promising
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 18, 2020, 09:38:34 AM
Let's see what the outcome is .... feel for this lady ' s family and her. Had a look back at #6407 ,john trainfish ,'s post.annoyed with Tesco myself. Went to local , I have to work safety critical railways, key worker, silly woman wiping the trolleys, baskets . She wore no gloves, I asked why and offered her a pair as I'm carrying a box  . I had mine on. She was waiting a manager to fetch some  did he have no gloves. I politely explained I had a shift up do. It was not a manager some rude arrogant bloke. He would not let me in for 15 minutes. I asked politely why he had no gloves, she was waiting for me to replenish her supply. Disorganised or what ? Use hand sanitised stuff she had just moved with bare hands. No way. I had gloves on. Eventually allowed in and did not wish to use sanitizer. Why if assistant had squirted some or it was electric device but then he the do called assistant manager got grumpy. Sorry? I had a discussion over this. I wont repeat what he said. I filled a basket. Went to pay card only. Checkout staff glad he was polite. Do i want to shop in tesco again ? Late to catch the train in so I could do my shift. Was not happy. Think I'm.sticking to the polite friendly Mark's spencers
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on May 18, 2020, 10:58:21 AM
Beware of using company's like "Easy Life" they send catalogues through doors for lifestyle products. I have bought a few items off this company over the years with no problems. On the first of May they were advertising some face masks and sanitiser at not too bad a price. I placed a order and I paid by PayPal, I have still not received the goods all messages have been ignored. Trying to ring the customer service was a waste of time with over a hundred customers in the queue before me and over a hours waiting time. Since then I have taken up the issue with PayPal sending a message through their site, still no reply, I then pressed for further action with PayPal so it is in there hands now. On Saturday they replied to my first e mail saying they were sending the goods so 18 days later we shall see what happens.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Philip. on May 18, 2020, 12:39:30 PM
Just taken the doggo for his lunchtime walk and it's like everyone has forgotten lockdown. The roads are heaving, people are queueing to get in to Sainsburys. Utter madness ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on May 18, 2020, 01:07:57 PM
The hardware stores in Ireland are allowed to open from today. There are a couple of things I need for the garden, but no way am I going today or tomorrow, it will be, as @Philip. (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6180)  says, "madness" for a few days. I will wait until I go to Tesco's for the 'happy hour' on Friday!  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 18, 2020, 04:26:38 PM
anyone else being ******* about by paypal ?

they have my name
they have my address
they have my bank details
they have my credit card details

now they've 'limited' my account, so I can't pay anyone, order/ pay for anything, or basically do anything else.

don't have a phone number any more - 'message us' waste of  :censored: time

over two hours later still waiting for a response, meanwhile I need to order from BPM and send some cash to a mate.

of course, money can still be paid into my acct, I just can't access it, so I assume they get the interest.

:censored: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 18, 2020, 04:30:24 PM
Alan @class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311) , have you thought about calling their customer service number 08003587911 for help
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 18, 2020, 04:39:41 PM
Hi Chris,

no phone numbers available on their website ...

but now,
thanks to you

I have one  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 18, 2020, 04:43:56 PM
Quote from: class37025 on May 18, 2020, 04:39:41 PM
Hi Chris,

no phone numbers available on their website ...

but now,
thanks to you

I have one  >:D

which is to an automated system that can't transfer me to a human being  :headbutt: :headbutt: :headbutt: :headbutt: :headbutt: :headbutt:

where is a fire support controller with a couple of air assets when you want one  :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 18, 2020, 04:47:10 PM
They also list. Google @class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311)  the following in case 0208 080 6500 and 0800 358 9448. Good luck . I contacted a phone manufacturer to sort an issue. What a waste. Censored  :censored: and he just talked as though I have a degree in computers, science, gobbledeegook and was not interested I'm not technical. Thanks, I spoke to my service provider they could not have been more helpful,  spoke plain, concise english not technical and I took name and notes. A tip
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 18, 2020, 04:51:39 PM
same as the other number ...

annoying automatic system that tells you it can't connect you to anyone


what a load of bull  :poop:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulbeckwith on May 18, 2020, 04:55:06 PM


  you  could  try  0800 358 7911

or  Dublin  office  0845401 1050

  paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 18, 2020, 04:55:35 PM
Ok sorry I just googled  pp say 08707 301881. Alan that is what they advertise. I tend to post or use bacs system
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 18, 2020, 05:01:25 PM
dublin number just the  :veryangry: same.

obviously Paypal couldn't give a  :poop: about their customers, don't want to speak to them, and just ignore them.

looks like time to send a parcel to their HQ offices

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 18, 2020, 05:08:44 PM
Quote from: crewearpley40 on May 18, 2020, 04:55:35 PM
Ok sorry I just googled  pp say 08707 301881. Alan that is what they advertise. I tend to post or use bacs system

I'm beginning to see your point ....

but they have money of mine....
I can't transfer to my bank account ...

and they won't answer either phones or messaging.

:veryangry: :headbutt: :headbutt: :headbutt: :headbutt:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 18, 2020, 05:12:32 PM
I share your frustration and anger..sorry trying to be helpful. Wish you well and venting.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: exmouthcraig on May 18, 2020, 05:12:54 PM
What have you done wrong to upset them and put the block on the account????
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 18, 2020, 05:16:59 PM
as far as I know, nothing. not changed my name / address/ bank acct / credit card etc.

plenty going in / out of the account, nothing that they worried about there !

just seem to be a load of  :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 18, 2020, 05:17:44 PM
Quote from: crewearpley40 on May 18, 2020, 05:12:32 PM
I share your frustration and anger..sorry trying to be helpful. Wish you well and venting.

thanks  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 18, 2020, 05:19:05 PM
Quote from: class37025 on May 18, 2020, 04:26:38 PM
anyone else being ******* about by paypal ?

It's a random anti-customer thing that's happened to me twice now, which is why I barely use Paypal these days.  Their loss ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on May 18, 2020, 06:07:40 PM
Quotenow they've 'limited' my account, so I can't pay anyone, order/ pay for anything, or basically do anything else.

Have they? did the email look something like

QuoteYour PayPal account is temporarily limited.

We're sending you a copy of our Account Error Resolution Notice to provide helpful information if you have a billing error or unauthorized transaction on your PayPal account. Because of this, we've limited your accounts and can no longer offer our services to you until we confirm your account. You'll still be able to log in to view history, but you won't be able send or receive payment.
or was it
QuoteYour account has been limited.
Hello, Customer

We've limited your account

After a recent review of your account activity, we've determined you are in violation of PayPal's Acceptable Use Policy. Please log in to confirm your identity and review all your recent activity

You can find the complete PayPal Acceptable Use Policy by clicking Legal at the bottom of any PayPal page.
or another of dozen or so that are doing the rounds,those 2 arrived today.Just checked and my account is working fine.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 18, 2020, 07:00:43 PM
forwarded the initial e-mail to Paypal security, and heard no more.

now, signed in to my paypal acct on Paypal site, still getting all this agro,
so as far as I am concerned, IT'S PAY-PAL that's giving me grief.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 18, 2020, 07:32:29 PM
so ...

it's 19:29 ...

I contacted Paypal at 14:19 ...

and apart from a series of messages [4 in total]

Our agent will respond to your message within 1 hour.

nothing else.

says something, IMHO, about Paypal and it's concerns for their customers.

nothing good, mind you.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MarshLane on May 18, 2020, 07:55:00 PM
Quote from: class37025 on May 18, 2020, 04:26:38 PM
anyone else being ******* about by paypal ?

they have my name
they have my address
they have my bank details
they have my credit card details

now they've 'limited' my account, so I can't pay anyone, order/ pay for anything, or basically do anything else.

don't have a phone number any more - 'message us' waste of  :censored: time

over two hours later still waiting for a response, meanwhile I need to order from BPM and send some cash to a mate.

of course, money can still be paid into my acct, I just can't access it, so I assume they get the interest.

:censored: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

Hi Alan,
The limiting of an account happens when you've received more than a specific amount of money, usually in four figures, but I cannot remember exactly what it is.  I went through that process a few years ago - usually what happens is they do checks to ensure that nobody is laundering money through it.  My argument at the time was that the banks don't do that, so why do Paypal - the response from the customer agent, which I actually now think in the world that we live was quite accurate, was that the banking system provides a lot more traceability than Paypal, so they take the risk up to a certain level, but don't go above it.

With PayPal anyone can start an account with just an email address, the only other thing they have to link is an IP (which without a court order demanding the ISP release details, which is difficult to get) is fairly limited in its use.  With the banks, the last time I opened an account, they wanted to see two household bills in my name, with my address on, plus photo ID with the address, of which they held a copy.

I seem to recall they put a restriction on my account for six months, that meant while the money was mine, 60% of the income each day was held for 90 days, after which it was released and could be withdrawn.  I didn't have a problem with that, but others (rightly or wrongly) may do.  Certainly worth querying with them tho. 

I suspect the phone number has been removed at the current time, because of the issues of staff in call centres.

Goto https://www.paypal.com/uk/smarthelp/contact-us (https://www.paypal.com/uk/smarthelp/contact-us) - and enter account limiting in the search. I went to the second option "Why my account may be limited" and got an explanation of things.  It is frustrating when things don't work as they should or when companies take longer to reply, but in the current climate (and no disrespect intended here) I think patience and approaching it calmly will get you a long way.

Rich
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on May 18, 2020, 08:03:31 PM
Glad I don't work for Paypal at the moment or Alan @class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311) wouldn't have posted the Ford pallet vans to me which my wife picked up today from the local sorting office. She had to get up early on her day off though as they've cut their hours to 07:00 - 09:00 (but we may close 30mins early). Serves her right for not picking them up Saturday really  :smiley-laughing:

Thanks again Alan, PM sent and I'll post a thanks thingy on here if I can remember where it is  :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: gc4946 on May 18, 2020, 09:07:01 PM
I checked just in case I received such a message and it was spam, fortunately I received no emails purporting from Paypal and my recent transactions involving them are OK
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 18, 2020, 09:50:15 PM
now over 7 1/2 hours since first 'message' to their so called customer service department, and five messages saying they would get back to me 'within 1 hour'  :veryangry:

needless to say nothing heard, and now calls by phone say offices closed  :'(

how the hell do you deal with a firm that doesn't speak to its customers ?

haven't clicked on any links, logged on to their website and all done through that, in theory.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 18, 2020, 09:51:59 PM
Keep a record of all dealings, rest tonight and try tomorrow.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 19, 2020, 10:17:40 AM
update :

apart from this last night

from me
9:38 PM
now over 7 hours

from them
Our agent will respond to your message in 8 minute(s).

nothing has happened.
so, although I have other things to do today, it looks as though today, like yesterday, will be spent trying to sort this out.  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 19, 2020, 10:19:43 AM
Keep calm. It's frustrating. I'm still waiting for a response and not bothering to reply to an organisation though they could do better. Customer is always king
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 19, 2020, 10:38:35 AM
not according to Paypal, by the look of it.

done the round of phone numbers again this morning, still not connecting to any humans.
over 18 hrs and no response to their message system,

beginning to think they have all gone home and left the computer turned on  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: exmouthcraig on May 19, 2020, 10:48:06 AM
Maybe their all having a whip round for your birthday  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on May 19, 2020, 10:52:05 AM
It would be a nice present if you could get it sorted out. Happy Birthday Alan.  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 19, 2020, 12:28:36 PM
 :hmmm:

not holding my breath  ;)

many thanks Dannyboy and EC, and of course just after midnight my message arrived from the Forum. :thumbsup:

so far a bottle of Grants from SWMBO, awaiting a parcel from Amazon from elder daughter, and younger daughter popping down this afternoon.

:hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 19, 2020, 01:28:35 PM
well, apart from two messages of

"Our agent will respond to your message within 1 hour."

nothing happening.

the last one was 1 1/2 hours ago .....

BUT

in 52 minutes I will have been waiting 24 hours for an actual response from Paypal . :o

will this be a record  :hmmm:

I'm guessing not.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 19, 2020, 02:31:54 PM
well, it's now over 24 hours, no response on their messaging, no way through their phone system, in my opinion it says a lot about the company.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 19, 2020, 10:33:51 PM
well, nothing has happened apart from idiot messages saying they will resove this within the next hour / 9 minutes / 8 minutes / can you leave us a message if you haven't already done so.

my latest response, and I think it is quite restrained under the circumstances, is

Please go ahead and leave us a message if you haven't already and we will get back to you in a few hours.

alan jenkins10:27 PM
22:25you are joking. it is now 34 hours since I first contacted you, and you have still done absolutely nothing to resolve my problem, you have made no attempt to contact me to discuss the situation, and all you have done is send a series of idiotic messages saying you'll respond, but haven't. your customer service is a joke.

I expect a phone call tomorrow from a senior customer service manager, nothing less, who is able to resolve this matter. I have found no-one who can in any way understand your total incompetence.

so do I expect any improvement tomorrow ?

what do you think  :headbutt: :headbutt: :headbutt:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 19, 2020, 10:38:09 PM
Frustrating. There are issues with paypal from What i have heard. It's annoying  I would have a drink and rest.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on May 20, 2020, 08:50:06 AM
Extremely frustrating Alan. Is there an Ombudsman or some other body that PayPal answer to? Would not hurt to drop it into the conversation - assuming of course that you do get a conversation with someone from PayPal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 20, 2020, 09:18:50 AM
Quote from: crewearpley40 on May 19, 2020, 10:38:09 PM
Frustrating. There are issues with paypal from What i have heard. It's annoying  I would have a drink and rest.

I did phone a supplier that I was wanting to order from, re another subject, and during the conversation mentioned the Paypal problem and he said he was unable to process paypal payments for orders.
sounds like they might even have some serious IT issues, but you'd think that in that case there would be something on their website to advise customers.

when I checked this morning the only addition to my message was

Our agent will respond to your message in 9 minute(s).

but of course they don't time their messages, so it could have been any time in the last 11 hours.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 20, 2020, 10:58:33 AM
yet another update .....

at 09:30 this morning I sent this
9:30 AM
09:28 20/5/20 still waiting for some contact from you in response to my messages starting 14:19 on 18/5/20 I assume that as a financial company you are regulated by an ombundsman ?

amazingly I received this in response
You're now connected to John Vincent
John Vincent
9:40 AM
Hi! Thank you for contacting PayPal Messaging. My name is John Vincent and I'm happy to assist you with your concern today.
Thank you for the information and also for getting in contact with us. I do apologize for the delay in getting your message responded to. I understand how important it is to you, Let me go ahead and check this for you.
Can you provide me your concern and as of now we don't have an option to make an out bound call for you. The only option to communicate with us is you have to contact our Customer Service on phone call.

after various messages in both directions I got this

9:48 AM
For me to be able to resolve this for you, what I'm going to do is connect you over to the department that can answer your concern, ok? Kindly stay on the line while I get the next specialist that will assist you, Thank you

since then nothing
:'(

I actually thought I was finally getting somewhere.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 20, 2020, 12:26:43 PM
Uh-oh. Got this this morning. Not even sure whether to open my Paypal account or not :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Hiawatha on May 20, 2020, 12:31:05 PM
Certainly Paypal will send you an email from 142778270.100298697.1589801211840.email.apple3@dekadeonline.com ...

:no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 20, 2020, 12:45:31 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on May 20, 2020, 12:26:43 PM
Uh-oh. Got this this morning. Not even sure whether to open my Paypal account or not :uneasy:

I THINK you should be alright logging on to your account, as long as you don't want to speak to them  :veryangry:

I certainly ignore or forward to Paypal security any e-mails that I get from 'them' other than the ones telling me I have money  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on May 20, 2020, 12:45:43 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on May 20, 2020, 12:26:43 PM
Uh-oh. Got this this morning. Not even sure whether to open my Paypal account or not :uneasy:

Without checking, I think the address to forward that email to is
spoof@paypal.com
when I forward a strange email, I do usually get an acknowledgement direct from PayPal.

Addit: Alan is correct, you should be okay logging into your PayPal account direct.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 20, 2020, 01:03:42 PM
I guessed by the mail address it was crap but logged into my account (not via the link in that mail) and transferred the entire balance to my current account as a safety measure. If it's not in my account in a few days I'll worry about it then.
In the meantime thanks for the 'spoof@paypal.com' address. I'll forward it.
:thankyousign:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on May 20, 2020, 01:10:53 PM
All genuine emails from either PayPal or eBay, WILL ALWAYS address you by your actual name, not your email address or Dear Sir etc etc.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 20, 2020, 01:14:08 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on May 20, 2020, 01:03:42 PM
I guessed by the mail address it was crap but logged into my account (not via the link in that mail) and transferred the entire balance to my current account as a safety measure. If it's not in my account in a few days I'll worry about it then.
In the meantime thanks for the 'spoof@paypla.com' address. I'll forward it.
:thankyousign:

certainly better to be safe especially with the problems with trying to contact Paypal if you have a problem, however, I'd guess that if you could transfer your ballance, then it might be ok.

mind you, after I'd received and forwarded the e-mail I got, I placed and paid for two order from BPM and one on fleabay before it all went t wrong  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on May 20, 2020, 01:54:32 PM
@Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)
For info Mick - I  transferred some money from my PayPal account on Monday and it was in my bank account yesterday. (So something is working correctly at PayPal  :thumbsup:).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 20, 2020, 08:25:08 PM
well, unsurprisingly, in spite of several messages to the contrary, no contact from them.

latest message to them just sent ...

alan jenkins8:22 PM
20:20 according to your phone lines your offices are now closed. now 56 hours since started trying to get help from you, giving up for tonight, and will try yet again, for the fourth day, tomorrow.


now going to investigate SWMBO's pressie from yesterday, while reading a book on the Nimrod from elder daughter.

:beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on May 20, 2020, 09:14:58 PM
There I was, fully expecting you to say everything was now sorted Alan. This is getting ridiculous and I feel angry on your behalf. However, I do think the Nimrod is a lovely airplane, unless you were referring to "a biblical figure described as a king in the land of Shinar,".  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 20, 2020, 09:30:23 PM
no, the ex comet with a bit grafted on that replaced the 10,000 rivets in close formation that we had at Ballykelly  :)

and the pressie isn't too bad either  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: exmouthcraig on May 20, 2020, 09:38:56 PM
@class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311) Which book was it Alan??? Fantastic plane and the MRA4 should of been protecting us for the last 10 years but a certain PM pulled the plug on that.  :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 20, 2020, 09:39:56 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on May 20, 2020, 09:14:58 PM
This is getting ridiculous and I feel angry on your behalf.

I quite agree. This is where the likes of Facebook, Twitter blah blah come in useful* as most companies hate being portrayed in a bad light.

*Yeah, I know. Me saying they come in useful. The world must be in a poor state :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on May 20, 2020, 09:44:07 PM
Quote from: class37025 on May 20, 2020, 09:30:23 PM
no, the ex comet with a bit grafted on that replaced the 10,000 rivets in close formation that we had at Ballykelly  :)

and the pressie isn't too bad either  :beers:
I remember them,  just make sure that air traffic has phoned the signal box to make sure there isn't a train on the runway.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on May 20, 2020, 09:45:12 PM
You could always tell them, (well, send another message), letting them know that a certain internet forum has 7686 members and if each of those members told 10 of their friends about the customer service at PayPal, that would be an awful lot of people aware.   :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 20, 2020, 09:46:42 PM
I was speaking to a friendly technical chap as my phone was having a small issue. He said its circumstances we live in , working from home, children at home , schoolwork online, zoom etc. And the congestion online. I don't use PayPal but he did mention contact less card use was a minor issue with terminals taking forever. I asked him about PayPal and he confirmed surprisingly there were issues, he cancelled his and spoke with his bank.  Maybe worth going that route 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 21, 2020, 09:53:39 AM
Quote from: The Q on May 20, 2020, 09:44:07 PM
Quote from: class37025 on May 20, 2020, 09:30:23 PM
no, the ex comet with a bit grafted on that replaced the 10,000 rivets in close formation that we had at Ballykelly  :)

and the pressie isn't too bad either  :beers:
I remember them,  just make sure that air traffic has phoned the signal box to make sure there isn't a train on the runway.

I well remember doing a guardoom shift one sunday morning and receiving a phone call.....

"Main Guardoom, Cpl. Jenkins, sir"

"Satco here, cpl, we've just had a train hit a sheep on the runway, better get someone down there"

:hmmm:

"Year, right, stop  :censored: about "

it only seemed a few seconds later that a mini arrived outside in cloud of smoke, the door was flung open and a voice roar ...

"WHICH ONE OF YOU IS JENKINS?"

ooooppppssssss :-[ :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on May 21, 2020, 10:05:08 AM
Re my order to Easylife, ordered on 1/5/2020 the sent me a message with a tracking number 3 days ago for Hermes. In fairness to Hermes there site said they had not received the parcel yesterday. They have sent a message, this morning they now have it so probably to be delivered tomorrow my shopping day you can't win. So 21 days since ordering pretty rubbish, I won't be ordering off them again that's for sure.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 21, 2020, 10:06:22 AM
Quote from: dannyboy on May 20, 2020, 09:45:12 PM
You could always tell them, (well, send another message), letting them know that a certain internet forum has 7686 members and if each of those members told 10 of their friends about the customer service at PayPal, that would be an awful lot of people aware.   :hmmm:

what a good idea ....

alan jenkins10:02 AM
good morning, day four of this fiasco, and a member of one of the forums I post on has pointed out that they have 7,686 members, most of whom are following my posts on there about Paypal, and he added that if each one told ten other people, that is an awful lot of bad press for Paypal. hopefull, today, THIS WILL BE SORTED.


but don't hold your breath. phone lines are still not transfering to humans.

very tempted, but so far managed not, to reply to 'reason for your call' by replying 'bomb threat'  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 21, 2020, 10:09:12 AM
Quote from: lil chris on May 21, 2020, 10:05:08 AM
Re my order to Easylife, ordered on 1/5/2020 the sent me a message with a tracking number 3 days ago for Hermes. In fairness to Hermes there site said they had not received the parcel yesterday. They have sent a message, this morning they now have it so probably to be delivered tomorrow my shopping day you can't win. So 21 days since ordering pretty rubbish, I won't be ordering off them again that's for sure.

and soon you'll start getting their marketing calls  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 21, 2020, 10:13:22 AM
Quote from: exmouthcraig on May 20, 2020, 09:38:56 PM
@class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311) Which book was it Alan??? Fantastic plane and the MRA4 should of been protecting us for the last 10 years but a certain PM pulled the plug on that.  :no:

Nimrod Boys, by Tony Blackman with Joe Kennedy.
think I may need to get his Nimrod, rise and fall as well.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 21, 2020, 10:32:55 AM
Quote from: crewearpley40 on May 20, 2020, 09:46:42 PM
I was speaking to a friendly technical chap as my phone was having a small issue. He said its circumstances we live in , working from home, children at home , schoolwork online, zoom etc. And the congestion online. I don't use PayPal but he did mention contact less card use was a minor issue with terminals taking forever. I asked him about PayPal and he confirmed surprisingly there were issues, he cancelled his and spoke with his bank.  Maybe worth going that route

unfortunately you have to sort out the 'limitation' before you can do anything. can't even get my money out to my bank account till they sort this fiasco  :veryangry:

effectively your account is locked, oh you can still have money paid in, but then can't use or withdraw it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 21, 2020, 10:55:30 AM
it gets better, this has just appeared .....

We're sorry, but messages are currently unavailable.

Please close this window and select another contact option.


Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on May 21, 2020, 11:02:22 AM
I have just posted a reply to 'NinOz' about his biopsy - this is another pain in the derriere!  ;D. Not sure what you do now Alan.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: exmouthcraig on May 21, 2020, 11:11:37 AM
@class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311) highly recommend the rise and fall, Tony was allowed access to the site when the 3 MRA4s were in paint shop on the day they were destroyed.

Yes it was a fiasco filled conversion and a good 1000% over budget but it would of been THE BEST  in the world
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ted on May 21, 2020, 11:46:58 AM
Not necessarily angry, more like 'somewhat annoyed'.

Ordered a ESU Mobile Controller II.

It arrived with the internals rattling around (aka broken), thankfully Kevin at CoastalDCC has been super helpful and is swapping it out.

Then my KR Multicase finally arrived, and whoever put it together has damaged the internal lining - twice!

I'll fix it with some glue instead of sending it back. Not great for a premium product. I will let them know, mistakes happen.

Anyway, worse has happened at sea.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 21, 2020, 03:33:29 PM
Quote from: exmouthcraig on May 21, 2020, 11:11:37 AM
@class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311) highly recommend the rise and fall, Tony was allowed access to the site when the 3 MRA4s were in paint shop on the day they were destroyed.

Yes it was a fiasco filled conversion and a good 1000% over budget but it would of been THE BEST  in the world

just ordered it off E-bay, £9.99 with free postage, and paid by card,  :censored: Paypal.

last message was

alan jenkins2:35 PM
please transfer the ballance in my account to my currant account, you have the details, close my account, and send WRITTEN confirmation to my home address, which you also have.


needless to say, no reply, and still no phone actually transferring to humans.

I'm pretty sure they have all gone home, and just left the computers to deal with anything.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on May 21, 2020, 05:00:49 PM
@class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311)
You know what they say...to err is human but it takes a computer to really mess up.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 21, 2020, 05:15:14 PM
I think to mess up as much as Paypal they must have several  :)

certainly no sign of any human intervention, looks like I'll need to rely on divine intervention  :hmmm:

I could e-mail trump, he seems to be on chatting relation with the big boy  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 21, 2020, 05:18:20 PM
Quote from: Ted on May 21, 2020, 11:46:58 AM
Not necessarily angry, more like 'somewhat annoyed'.

Ordered a ESU Mobile Controller II.

It arrived with the internals rattling around (aka broken), thankfully Kevin at CoastalDCC has been super helpful and is swapping it out.

Then my KR Multicase finally arrived, and whoever put it together has damaged the internal lining - twice!

I'll fix it with some glue instead of sending it back. Not great for a premium product. I will let them know, mistakes happen.

Anyway, worse has happened at sea.

I blame the posties ....
I sent a parcel recently, all locos and DMUs tested and ok before packing and despatch....

one DMU didn't work when it arrived, had it returned, and no motor or PCB....

posties  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 22, 2020, 09:41:44 AM
just got off the phone with the FCA who have given me advice and information which has resulted in the following message to Paypal

09:33 friday 22/05/20 I have just got off the phone from the Financial Conduct Authority who regulate your operations within the UK, where I have been advised to raise a formal complaint with you regarding your failure to communicate with your customers. My complaint with the FCA is being passed to their investigation department and I have be given contact information for your regulators in Luxembourg to enable me to make a formal complaint to them as well.

If I have had no response from you by 17:00 today, I shall escalate this matter to them.



any bets on anything happening in response  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 22, 2020, 10:07:48 AM
 :o :o :o

14 minutes later I had this

You're now connected to Loida

Loida9:47 AM
Thank you for contacting PayPal. I am Loida, how can I help you today?

Please give me a minute or two as I review your concern.


alan jenkins9:59 AM
hello, I have been trying to get a response from you since 2:15pm on tuesday as to why you have limited my account

Loida9:59 AM
Hi, Alan,
Sorry to keep you waiting. In order for us to serve you better, I'll be transferring you to our Limitations Department. Thanks for contacting Paypal. Have a nice day.


:thumbsup:

mind you, nothing since so have I been transferred or cut off  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 22, 2020, 04:14:13 PM
I hope no one has been holding their breath waiting for a response / resolution  :smiley-laughing:

so, in spite of several further messages to Paypal, and the usual 'Our agent will respond to your message within 1 hour.' and not doing so  I have now e-mailed their regulator with my formal complaint.

I have also noted that on the Paypal community, any attempt to pass on Paypal phone numbers, or regulators e-mail addresses etc is very quickly censored / removed.

it appears they have an active policy of doing all they can to prevent customers actually contacting them, or complaining about them.

mind you, with the tone and content of the majority of posts, they may well have their work cut out.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 22, 2020, 04:34:40 PM
after over five days of this I have had enough of these clowns.
this final message has just been sent ...

16:25. as previously notified to you, failure to respond to and resolve my complaint will result in my issuing a formal complaint to your regulator in Luxembourg, copied to your regulator in the UK, at 17:00 hours today. you have had five days to address my problem / complaint, and have failed miserably. you now have 32 minutes to actually deal with it.

now off to do the spuds .......

SWMBO has decided dinner tonight will be
Faggots
mash
peas
a bit of extra gravy

and for me  :)

a large glass of a certain alcoholic beverage.

desert will be strawberries with arctic roll  :food:

perhaps this should be transferred to the happy thread  :hmmm:

HB is already sniffing around the kitchen  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on May 22, 2020, 04:46:38 PM
Hooray my parcel from Easylife has been delivered by Hermes. It was not Hermes fault, this parcel as only taken 21 days, I placed the order on the 1st May, at least I have got it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on May 22, 2020, 05:29:00 PM
Faggots                       :)
Mash                           :)
Peas                            :)
a bit of extra gravy       :claphappy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 22, 2020, 05:52:12 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on May 22, 2020, 05:29:00 PM
Faggots                       :)
Mash                           :)
Peas                            :)
a bit of extra gravy       :claphappy:

sorry, you can't come round and share, I've got HB to clear up any left overs  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on May 22, 2020, 06:00:05 PM
Just like being at home - I'm sure Louisa thinks more of Blue than me.  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on May 22, 2020, 06:18:23 PM
Quotehas decided dinner tonight will be
Faggots
Hopes it proper faggots and not those mushy fake abominations churned out by brains.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 22, 2020, 07:41:42 PM
My paypal balance transferred to my bank OK so I seem to have no problem.
@class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311) I hope you can get a result somehow, Alan, but would also approach the Office of Fair Trading if you haven't done so already.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 22, 2020, 07:55:50 PM
Try https://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/faqs/all/can-complain-paypal/ (https://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/faqs/all/can-complain-paypal/) and https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/Archive/Re-HOW-CAN-WE-TAKE-PAYPAL-TO-THE-FINANCIAL-OMBUDSMAN/td-p/1183619 (https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/Archive/Re-HOW-CAN-WE-TAKE-PAYPAL-TO-THE-FINANCIAL-OMBUDSMAN/td-p/1183619)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 22, 2020, 08:17:23 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on May 22, 2020, 07:41:42 PM
My paypal balance transferred to my bank OK so I seem to have no problem.
@class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311) I hope you can get a result somehow, Alan, but would also approach the Office of Fair Trading if you haven't done so already.

many thanks, Mick, I had not thought of them

multiple strikes might well be the way, otherwise known as the 'shotgun' method  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 22, 2020, 08:23:43 PM
Quote from: crewearpley40 on May 22, 2020, 07:55:50 PM
Try https://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/faqs/all/can-complain-paypal/ (https://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/faqs/all/can-complain-paypal/) and https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/Archive/Re-HOW-CAN-WE-TAKE-PAYPAL-TO-THE-FINANCIAL-OMBUDSMAN/td-p/1183619 (https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/Archive/Re-HOW-CAN-WE-TAKE-PAYPAL-TO-THE-FINANCIAL-OMBUDSMAN/td-p/1183619)

many thanks, though they do say you have to complain to Paypal in the first instance, but you cannot when they will not communicate with their customers. however, according to the lady I spoke to this morning at the FCA, their failure to communicate is grounds to complain.

shan't even bother going on their site tomorrow, will be too busy catching up from the last five days and sending e-mails  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 22, 2020, 08:26:08 PM
Quote from: themadhippy on May 22, 2020, 06:18:23 PM
Quotehas decided dinner tonight will be
Faggots
Hopes it proper faggots and not those mushy fake abominations churned out by brains.

sorry,  :-[ a six pack out of the freezer ..

but SWMBO, I and HB all enjoyed our tea anyway.

must try to get over to the butchers in a nearby village and get some of his proper ones.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 22, 2020, 08:32:53 PM
I'd have a beer or wine and chill
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 22, 2020, 09:37:09 PM
already sorted,

long soak in a nice hot bath,
a few drams
I'll feel like a new man tomorrow


oe  er missus  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 23, 2020, 12:28:13 PM
online form completed to raise complaint with the FOS, and sent.

now just need to wait for them to get back to me, and its a bank holiday weekend  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 23, 2020, 12:50:38 PM
just checked my e-mails and I've received this

Thanks for submitting your complaint to the Financial Ombudsman Service. Please retain this email for your records.

We're seeing a high number of people bringing complaints to us at the moment, and in light of the government's advice about coronavirus, we're having to work a bit differently. This means it's taking us longer than usual to let you know that your complaint has been received and allocated to a case handler. We expect to be able to send a more detailed acknowledgement in the next 3 weeks. We appreciate your patience and are doing everything we can to get an answer on your case as soon as possible. Our phone lines are running with limited availability at the moment so please only call if your query is urgent, or it's to let us know you're facing financial hardship or ill health. For more information about ways to contact us, look at our website: https://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/contact-us. (https://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/contact-us.)


pity the poor sod who's dealing with Paypal complaints, I bet he/she's busy  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 27, 2020, 11:06:00 AM
not sure if this should not be in the reasonably happy thread  :hmmm:

today I received an e-mail from the regulators in Luxembourg, including the e-mail address of the CEO of Paypal, to whom I need to submit my complaint, thus bypassing the phones / messages etc, and the form I need to complete to formally register my complaint with the regulator.

looks like I'll be busy today  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on May 27, 2020, 11:08:58 AM
Well it is progress of a sort.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 27, 2020, 11:09:08 AM
I would print this thread off and add it after your main complaint just to say we are all with you here alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 27, 2020, 11:48:37 AM
A C.E.O.? Working? We can live in hope.
Seriously, Alan, I would take that as progress and hope you can sort the swines out.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: red_death on May 27, 2020, 12:24:40 PM
Not that it is any consolation but I've been having similar difficulties with Paypal's complaints on a different subject. I suspect that the volume of transactions they are dealing with in the lockdown situation is far in excess of what they can cope with.

I submitted very clear evidence on a complaint and got nowhere so I now have the choice of FOS and/or my card company - such a waste of time for what should have been a fairly open/shut case (non-delivery of items).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 27, 2020, 01:24:17 PM
you could try

Mr. Timothy Minall (e-mail: CRC@paypal.com).

that is the direct contact CSSF gave me  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on May 27, 2020, 01:43:02 PM
Mrs Skyline is furious and I can't say I blame her.

She has just managed to get Mini Skyline down for a nap and what is going on outside his window? A garden party with multiple screening children. It would seem they have taken a leaf out of some other peoples books (or understanding of the lockdown rules) and started lifting them early.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 27, 2020, 01:50:33 PM
Alan. @class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311) . Google Timothy minall paypal maybe some stuff there of interest
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 27, 2020, 02:35:24 PM
thanks for that. very interesting
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on May 27, 2020, 03:41:43 PM
e-mail to Paypal sent 13:18
reply sent at 13:47, though only just received at 15:30 when AOL came back on line.

so they CAN act quickly, when it suits them.

mind you, the reply wants me to confirm my e-mail account, which is the one on my account and they one they sent their reply to, and I sent my original from  :hmmm:

sounds like delaying tactics yet again.

but CSSF requirements now complied with  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on June 03, 2020, 08:53:49 PM
since my last update I have been trying to get an e-mail response, or a phone call from, Paypal, but all I get is stupid e-mails to ask me to contact them from my e-mail address as registered to my account.

I ONLY HAVE ONE E-MAIL ADDRESS  :veryangry:

it now seems as though AOL have for some reason changed my @aol.com e-mail address to @aol.co.uk.

don't ask me why or when. I only noticed the change when I happened to re-read my initial e-mail of formal complaint to Timothy Minall, who of course has not acknowledged it.

the annoying thing is that Paypal have been sending their e-mails to my @aol.com address, which was the only one on my account.

I have now added my @aol.co.uk e-mail address and wait to see what happens now. :'(

slainte  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on June 04, 2020, 03:18:24 PM
at long last ....
received today ...

4 June 2020

Dear Alan Jenkins ,

On behalf of PayPal's Executive Escalations department, I can acknowledge receipt of your email dated 3 June 2020.

Your complaint has been assigned to one of our Executive Escalations Specialists, who will investigate your inquiry and issue a response as soon as possible. Please note all correspondence is dealt with in the order it is received.

In the meantime, please feel free to contact our department directly quoting your Reference Number: ******* at ppelce@paypal.co.uk if you have any further questions or concerns.

Yours sincerely,

Lynn Byrne
Executive Escalations
PayPal

Copyright © 1999-2020 PayPal. All rights reserved. PayPal (Europe) S.à r.l. et Cie, S.C.A. Société en Commandite par Actions. Registered Office: 5th Floor, 22-24 Boulevard Royal, L-2449, Luxembourg, RCS Luxembourg B 118 349



considering the initial formal complaint was e-mailed on 27th May, not exactly a 'prompt' response, but at least a response, and not from a computer [I think  :hmmm:]

think I may reply reminding them that the original e-mail was dated 27th May, not 3rd June  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 04, 2020, 03:26:01 PM
Alan. An acknowledgement. Bit like the old br. Slow
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 04, 2020, 04:19:56 PM
Aha. So it's gone from the 'Executive Evasion Specialists' and on to the 'Executive Escalations Specialists'. 20 years ago that sort of  :poop: would have been unheard of. ::)
Sounds like they might, just might, set their 'Fast Action Response Team' onto it
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on June 04, 2020, 04:37:44 PM
I'll await the e-mail telling me it's been passed to the "Fast Action Response Specialists " :smiley-laughing:

amazingly, not one mention about Covid-19 in any of the e-mails, it's about all you get if you try to phone them  :veryangry:

by the way, I was very glad to see you managed to get your donation sorted, what sort of company sends a message like "oh, here's a few quid donated by some people, who we can't actually be arsed to list"  :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 04, 2020, 05:15:42 PM
These days everybody and their dog are some kind of 'Excusative'.
Example - I'm a Media Executive
What does that entail?
Well, I switch the radio on and off

I get so angry I could throw the phone down :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on June 04, 2020, 05:36:22 PM
Quote from: class37025 on June 04, 2020, 04:37:44 PM
I'll await the e-mail telling me it's been passed to the "Fast Action Response Specialists " :smiley-laughing:


Good job it was not passed to the Fast Action Response Team!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on June 04, 2020, 05:57:12 PM
All these initials have reminded me. My wife used to work at North Manchester General Hospital, as a Community Psychiatric Nurse. The team she worked for was the Community Link Team. There was also an Early Intervention Team. No joke, they merged the two and named it the Community Link Intervention Team! That lasted less than a week before it was hastily renamed.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on June 04, 2020, 07:01:35 PM
Speaking of renaming I believe this shop in Manchester changed their signage soon after this picture was taken:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/262-040620185942-94870971.jpeg)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 04, 2020, 09:09:11 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on June 04, 2020, 05:36:22 PM
Quote from: class37025 on June 04, 2020, 04:37:44 PM
I'll await the e-mail telling me it's been passed to the "Fast Action Response Specialists " :smiley-laughing:


Good job it was not passed to the Fast Action Response Team!

Cough - Ahem - reply #6532!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on June 04, 2020, 09:30:38 PM
Ooops! Sorry Mick, I must have been speed reading when I was reading the posts, (or asleep!).  :-[  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on June 09, 2020, 02:18:43 PM
Is this in the wrong thread?  Very nice though. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 29, 2020, 06:15:25 PM
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/264-290620181312-962582073.jpeg)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on June 30, 2020, 12:27:25 AM
To be fair to the beachgoers, they're a lot further apart from other people than my children would be for over an hour at a time, going to and from school on the bus ... unless they are going to replace each bus with eight separate ones!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 30, 2020, 09:58:08 AM
But the beachgoers at Bournemouth also left 22 tonnes of rubbish in one day for some other poor sods to clean up. I really do despair at the mindless  :censored: we have in this country
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on June 30, 2020, 10:24:37 AM
Don't worry, Mick. It's not much different on the other side of the world. Victoria has a second wave of the virus, in Melbourne, because the families in certain suburbs either do not understand the rules, or simply disregard them.

People going to local markets on top of each other.

You makes yer bed, you lies in it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 30, 2020, 10:41:30 AM
Quote from: Bealman on June 30, 2020, 10:24:37 AM

You makes yer bed, you lies in it.

Very true, George. I don't give a damn about them but I do give a damn about all the people they infect through their lack of thought. To my mind, any country letting Brits in via 'air bridges' etc is just asking for trouble and it will come back to haunt us when they return without any quarantine.
This mindless stampede to reach 'normality' ('normalcy' for the Americans among us) will not end well, methinks.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Graham on June 30, 2020, 10:50:37 AM
Quote from: Bealman on June 30, 2020, 10:24:37 AM
Don't worry, Mick. It's not much different on the other side of the world. Victoria has a second wave of the virus, in Melbourne, because the families in certain suburbs either do not understand the rules, or simply disregard them.

People going to local markets on top of each other.

You makes yer bed, you lies in it.
I am glad to be living on the other side of Melbourne to where all the lockdowns are occurring. Although we did venture into the local shopping centre the other day, as SWMBO needed some new runners and there is no other way to get the ones she needed, but it was in and out as quick as we could. Sanitise at the car, then wash as soon as we get into the house.
Hopefully this will wake up a few people.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on June 30, 2020, 10:51:59 AM
Unfortunately, I tend to agree, Mick. Two of the Victorian cases involved arrivals from overseas, one of them Britain.

I've had an uneasy feeling all along that here in NSW it was a hasty return.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on June 30, 2020, 10:54:52 AM
Graham, it sounds a mess down there from what TV tells us.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MinZaPint on June 30, 2020, 11:36:14 AM
Living not far from Bournemouth this business of littering really winds me up, we're close to several beauty spots, lovely places to go out of "Grockle" season. People come to enjoy these places and bring their picnics in bags and cool-boxes, fair enough  but why when the wrappers bottles and cans are empty and much lighter can't people put them back in those bags and cool-boxes and take them home! I'm sure they would be horrified to arrive at theses places to find that they were expected to share the area with all that rubbish!  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Graham on June 30, 2020, 11:58:54 PM
Quote from: Bealman on June 30, 2020, 10:54:52 AM
Graham, it sounds a mess down there from what TV tells us.
not wishing to be political, but it seems strange that NSW has had hardly any cases from hotel quarantine and from new reports it is the military which is looking after the quarantine, whereas in VIC all the cases appear to be linked back to the hotel quarantine which the VIC govt decided it could manage on its own without any military help. Both states have had a similar number of returned travellers. hmm!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on July 01, 2020, 12:01:41 PM
I live slightly further than what appears to tbe the optimum distance for eating take aways about 2 miltes short of my house, but about ten miles from Macdonalds and various other take aways seems to be where they dump all the packaging out of the car windows. A mile or two short of reaching their caravans behind the beaches..

There's  some rubbish already accumulated and the sites haven't been officially opened yet (4th July is the opening date..)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on July 01, 2020, 01:00:31 PM
A pal of mine in London reckoned he lived one Big Mac away from McDonalds, judging by the number of empties he got in his front garden.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on July 01, 2020, 01:41:08 PM
We live a Big Mac meal + 250 yards from MacDonalds in Banbury, but a Bargain Bucket + 1mile from KFC.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on July 01, 2020, 03:05:21 PM
I'm just a few bus stops away....

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/255-220620043128-958072260.jpeg)

But wrappers have a habit of ending up outside Chez Bealman
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on July 01, 2020, 03:14:59 PM
QuoteBut wrappers have a habit of ending up outside Chez Bealman
Amazing wot crap youll eat after a beer or 6
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jpendle on July 03, 2020, 11:37:35 PM
Quote from: Bealman on June 30, 2020, 10:51:59 AM
Unfortunately, I tend to agree, Mick. Two of the Victorian cases involved arrivals from overseas, one of them Britain.

But surely that was at least 120 years ago?

John P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jpendle on July 03, 2020, 11:49:06 PM
Maybe this should be in the moderately annoyed thread, but I can't find one.

I ordered some Zimo decoders from the UK and was pleased to see that they had arrived in Denver on Sunday.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/3871-030720234225.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=96483)

By Tuesday they were in Fort Collins and had cleared customs, and on Wednesday they were out for delivery.  :bounce:

But nothing arrived and by Wednesday night they were back in Ft Collins.

So on Thursday I called Fedex and managed to speak to a LIVE PERSON, who said they'd put a trace on it.

Sure enough, by 11am Thursday, I got a call from the Fedex office in Ft Collins saying, and I'm paraphrasing here,

"The Website is a load of dangly, hairy things, the package never left the office as we're still waiting for official notice that it has , in fact, cleared customs".

So today's a holiday, which means I'm not getting these things until Monday at the earliest and they are just sitting 8 miles down the road, and it's a 3 day weekend  >:(

John P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on July 03, 2020, 11:54:20 PM
Quote from: jpendle on July 03, 2020, 11:37:35 PM
Quote from: Bealman on June 30, 2020, 10:51:59 AM
Unfortunately, I tend to agree, Mick. Two of the Victorian cases involved arrivals from overseas, one of them Britain.

But surely that was at least 120 years ago?

John P
maybe they were delivered by fed ex
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on July 04, 2020, 02:33:28 PM
Quote from: jpendle on July 03, 2020, 11:49:06 PM
Maybe this should be in the moderately annoyed thread, but I can't find one.


I think delivery/courier company problems are world wide. Last Monday I ordered something from Amazon. On Wednesday, I received an email from 'DPD' stating that the item would be delivered Friday. The 'DPD' website states that they received the item Wednesday - but nothing since. I am still waiting for the item. As Amazon stated that delivery would be by next Monday, I can not really complain, but it does annoy me when I receive an email stating a delivery day and it does not arrive. Why can they not say that they anticipate delivery on Friday?

Addit: Just checked the DPD website. My parcel was 'sorted by distribution centre in Athlone' on 2nd July and 'sorted by distribution centre in Athlone' on 4th July!  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 05, 2020, 11:19:59 AM
 :censored: :censored: :censored: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry2: :veryangry2: :veryangry2:

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/social-distancing-disappears-pubs-super-saturday-075810239.html
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on July 05, 2020, 11:30:05 AM
Things like this make you despair. Just idiotic - and idiots!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: gc4946 on July 05, 2020, 12:24:42 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 05, 2020, 11:19:59 AM
:censored: :censored: :censored: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry2: :veryangry2: :veryangry2:

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/social-distancing-disappears-pubs-super-saturday-075810239.html

I've walked through Soho many times whenever I lived or stayed in London and it was always busy at weekends. The main difference pre-lockdown was more revellers congregating indoors in the various pubs, nightclubs and cafes, all of which as the evenings progressed became overcrowded.
At least Westminster City Council had the sense to make the area pedestrian only because the risk of catching COVID-19 is less outdoors. However looking at images on the link and elsewhere on the web in the area, very few - if any - wore masks. Wearing face coverings would have reduced the risks still further, I would have worn a mask in these situations.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on July 05, 2020, 02:22:52 PM
trouble is masks would interfere with their drinking.

having seen so many of the videos re 'clap for the NHS', and noting how closely packed the doctors and nurses were in them, I can't help but wonder how many of the packed thousands were off duty doctors / nurses / essential workers who should have known better.

digging slit trench now ready for backlash  :dighole:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: honestjudge on July 05, 2020, 09:41:05 PM
I'm still waiting for the 'spike' from the BLM protests and other mass rallies that happened a few weeks ago...or maybe it is safe to go outside?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on July 05, 2020, 10:15:37 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 05, 2020, 11:19:59 AM
:censored: :censored: :censored: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry2: :veryangry2: :veryangry2:


couldn't have expressed it better myself
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on July 05, 2020, 11:22:49 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on July 04, 2020, 02:33:28 PM
Quote from: jpendle on July 03, 2020, 11:49:06 PM
Maybe this should be in the moderately annoyed thread, but I can't find one.


I think delivery/courier company problems are world wide. Last Monday I ordered something from Amazon. On Wednesday, I received an email from 'DPD' stating that the item would be delivered Friday. The 'DPD' website states that they received the item Wednesday - but nothing since. I am still waiting for the item. As Amazon stated that delivery would be by next Monday, I can not really complain, but it does annoy me when I receive an email stating a delivery day and it does not arrive. Why can they not say that they anticipate delivery on Friday?

Addit: Just checked the DPD website. My parcel was 'sorted by distribution centre in Athlone' on 2nd July and 'sorted by distribution centre in Athlone' on 4th July!  :'(

Courier companies have always been poor. In the mid-90s, the company I worked for hired an 80386 computer and a printer to use during testing a pair of multi-million pound, gas-turbine powered compressors. Testing was unable to go ahead without the equipment. TNT delivered the printer, but no PC and the driver disappeared into our canteen. I left a note on his windscreen, asking him to call my extension before leaving. I then caught him driving out of the gates and he refused to open the wagon and check in the back for the PC. I called Livingston Hire , who hired huge quantities of equipment out all over the country and it was apparently the final straw and they cancelled their contract with TNT. Sometimes complaining does have results.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 23, 2020, 09:36:20 AM
Having watched some of BBC Breakfast this morning, the male presenter interviewed an MP about the changes to rules on face covering due to come in at midnight tonight (Thursday).
The theme was the current situation is confusing and  further details will be released later today.
Attempts were made to clarify some situations by the presenter suggesting scenarios, and the bold comments are mine and mine alone.........
Libraries
Er – hello. It's a public building. Wear a mask/covering.
Banks
Er – hello. It's a public building. Wear a mask/covering.
Petrol stations
If you pay at the pump – no need to cover up. If you enter the shop to pay – cover up.
Where the 'battle lines' (and believe me, they will be battle lines when it comes to policing) get blurred is where you have coffee shops and fast food outlets serving both takeaways and eat in.
I'd like to think common sense will prevail in most instances but am not sure how much of this is left in current Britain. To my mind, if in doubt – cover up. Unless you have official exemption then live with it. It's necessary.
I'm not sure if Charlie Stayt was trying to trip the MP concerned up (in which case it was just pathetic) or whether he was trying to clarify things for the public. Somehow I suspect the former.
What has annoyed me since the announcement was made last week is when I go shopping I have to wear a mask but the staff don't. In my store yesterday there were aisles with more staff than customers, with none of the staff wearing masks. They were stocking up shelves, scanning things and generally tidying up. OK, staff on the tills are protected by screens but it seems everyone else is free to cough/sneeze on me.

Rant over
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on July 23, 2020, 10:06:42 AM
Nobby. As you say common sense is anything but common. The thinking behind not making it a legal requirement for shop staff to wear masks is that it is not always necessary. Perhaps you should complain to the shop manager and point out that it would be better if staff wear masks when mixing with the public.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on July 23, 2020, 11:22:25 AM
All I can say is, I hope you lot don't cop a second wave of it as we are currently experiencing here.

And unfortunately, it's because of selfish/ignorant individuals not doing the right thing.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on July 23, 2020, 11:30:48 AM
Quote from: Bealman on July 23, 2020, 11:22:25 AM
All I can say is, I hope you lot don't cop a second wave of it as we are currently experiencing here.

And unfortunately, it's because of selfish/ignorant individuals not doing the right thing.

So that means that every country is going to get a second wave. Those selfish/ignorant people are everywhere!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on July 23, 2020, 01:51:19 PM
And until there is either a vaccine or everyone starts acting responsibly there will be a 3rd, 4th, 5th wave etc!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on July 23, 2020, 04:09:20 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on July 04, 2020, 02:33:28 PM
I think delivery/courier company problems are world wide.

Yeah, here in Japan the other day I had a package coming for delivery between 2pm and 4pm, and it didn't turn up until 7 minutes past 4  :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

(Seriously, that's about the worst it gets here...)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on July 23, 2020, 04:18:08 PM
Quote from: railsquid on July 23, 2020, 04:09:20 PM
Yeah, here in Japan the other day I had a package coming for delivery between 2pm and 4pm, and it didn't turn up until 7 minutes past 4  :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

(Seriously, that's about the worst it gets here...)

I think 10 minutes is the seppuku threshold? :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: GrahamB on July 23, 2020, 07:55:42 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on October 05, 2017, 10:03:31 AM
Sorry to be so grave, folks, but it's worth informing your nearest and dearest of this in the event you shuttle off this mortal coil. OK, you personally are not going to be concerned, but any instruction you can give will help your loved ones/relatives get the optimum price. If a forum friend can be persuaded to help them out so much the better. All and any proceeds of my model railway items will be going to Help 4 Heroes so I'd like to think I'd get more than the shops would offer (should I worry about snipers now?) :uneasy:
I'm more worried that she will let it go for what I told her I paid for it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on July 24, 2020, 01:28:42 AM
Sainsburys keep delivering 20 minutes or more early! As the orders contain alcohol, they need an over 18 to receive the order - I keep wondering what they'll do if my 17 year-old son answers the door and tells them that I'm out, but will be back by the beginning of the delivery slot.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 29, 2020, 09:41:00 PM
Were you ever told "don't do as I do - do as I say"?

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/264-290720213817-976022197.jpeg)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on July 29, 2020, 10:02:11 PM
I don't think he is wearing a mask.  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on July 29, 2020, 10:24:27 PM
can't read either, by the look of it
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on August 04, 2020, 11:15:15 AM
Perhaps "angry" is too strong a term, maybe we should have a "mildly miffed" thread but I just felt like having a little moan. Why do the likes of Amazon keep sending adverts for something you have already bought? Surely they must realise that if you've bought an item you don't want anymore or if you did you know where to get it.
End of moan.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on August 04, 2020, 11:22:32 AM
Another one of their emails that 'miffs' me is the "please review" (whatever). I received one of these emails a couple of weeks ago and felt like replying "The  :censored: thing has not arrived yet!". Most of what I get from Amazon .... and eBay .... and others gets a cursory glance and goes straight in the bin.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on August 04, 2020, 01:33:06 PM
got a phone call this morning with a recorded message advising me that my Amazon Prime account would be closed if I

click - brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

as I don't have an Amazon Prime account, and never have had one, I assumed at that point it was a scam and put the phone down.

so be aware.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on August 04, 2020, 05:33:37 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on August 04, 2020, 11:22:32 AM
Another one of their emails that 'miffs' me is the "please review" (whatever). I received one of these emails a couple of weeks ago and felt like replying "The  :censored: thing has not arrived yet!". Most of what I get from Amazon .... and eBay .... and others gets a cursory glance and goes straight in the bin.
Gets me too. Books you havn't had time to read and stuff that if you bought from a normal shop you would never review so why bother?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on August 04, 2020, 05:37:13 PM
Quote from: class37025 on August 04, 2020, 01:33:06 PM
got a phone call this morning with a recorded message advising me that my Amazon Prime account would be closed if I

click - brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

as I don't have an Amazon Prime account, and never have had one, I assumed at that point it was a scam and put the phone down.

so be aware.

Thanks for the heads up. I'm in the same position as you so this one wouldn't work on me but good to be made aware.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: javlinfaw7 on August 04, 2020, 06:18:16 PM
Quote from: class37025 on August 04, 2020, 01:33:06 PM
got a phone call this morning with a recorded message advising me that my Amazon Prime account would be closed if I

click - brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

as I don't have an Amazon Prime account, and never have had one, I assumed at that point it was a scam and put the phone down.

so be aware.
I get this one at least twice weekly. I have blocked their number twice but they just use an other ,It is a scam trying toget you to contact a premium line
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on August 04, 2020, 06:29:36 PM
Another scam going at the moment is
"please contact this email address to confirm your details,  or your TV licence account will be suspended "
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 05, 2020, 10:39:18 AM
I had one proportedly coming from Amazon. Passed it onto their scam email address.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: javlinfaw7 on August 05, 2020, 10:54:02 AM
Todays scam ,a payment of £300 has been taken from your Visa account if this was not you press 1 if you wish to talk to  an adviser  press 2. No name mentioned and delivered in a electronic voice.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 05, 2020, 11:00:59 AM
In the past, I've had emails from just about every bank and financial institution in the U.S. I don't have an account with any of them. I do however, have a Hotmail.com email account and not a .co.uk one.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on August 06, 2020, 02:17:49 PM
just waded through the Royal Mail claims system, filling in their online claim form, to receive this

claim not eligable - I'm sorry we're unable to accept your claim. For Royal Mail signed for 2nd class items you must allow 10 working days from the due delivery date before we can treat the item as being lost

the item was posted 23rd July  :veryangry:

what a shower of  :censored:

so I've sold items to a fellow forum member, have posted them, he's paid me, and RM has lost the parcel but have sod all interest, waiting time on the phone 'help' line are over 50 minutes, and I am not able to supply replacements for some of the items sent as I only had one.

:headbutt: :headbutt: :headbutt: :headbutt: :headbutt:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 06, 2020, 02:37:24 PM
It's only 10 days since posting and not delivery. I suspect you will need to wait another 4 days to try again.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on August 06, 2020, 02:39:44 PM
As I understand it, 2nd class should take 2 - 3 working days. So if you allow 3 days, plus 10 working days, plus 2 weekends, that takes you to August 9th - try again then Alan. Good luck with it.

Addit: Malc just beat me to it, but the RM site does say 10 working days from the due delivery date. Apparently Saturday is a working day.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on August 06, 2020, 03:01:34 PM
These scam advises are useful, perhaps a kind official would set up a permanent thread for them.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on August 06, 2020, 03:18:39 PM
Just another to add to the list:

Had a call from R2D2 yesterday claiming to be from HMRC.

Hung up immediately.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on August 06, 2020, 03:46:09 PM
Quote from: Malc on August 06, 2020, 02:37:24 PM
It's only 10 days since posting and not delivery. I suspect you will need to wait another 4 days to try again.

doesn't explain though how I was told last Friday by RM so called customer services [ see poost 1882 in Unhappy Thread]

'so when can I claim compensation for the 'missing' parcel and send a replacement one for you to lose'
'you can claim on line after 6 pm tonight'


mind you she told me , after putting me on hold while she 'checked' that I could only claim £20 maximum compensation, whereas the correct amount for 2nd signed for is £50.

you wait for ages on an 08457 number [how much does that cost?] and then get given duff info. >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: javlinfaw7 on August 07, 2020, 07:01:57 PM
Just had an asian lady with a London  phone number  phone me up looking to give me advice on how to turn round my finances ,I wonder in which way as I did not stay on long enough to find out



Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on August 07, 2020, 07:04:47 PM
has anyone noticed that when you try to ring the numbers back, BT tells you the number is not recognised  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: javlinfaw7 on August 07, 2020, 07:08:39 PM
I  tend to check them on who-called.co.uk to see if anyone else has been bothered by them
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on August 07, 2020, 07:10:32 PM
quote author=class37025 link=topic=659.msg659508#msg659508 date=1596823487]
has anyone noticed that when you try to ring the numbers back, BT tells you the number is not recognised  :hmmm:
[/quote]

Never try to ring the numbers back (or any phone number you don't recognise) as one of the standard scams is doing this to get you to ring a premium rate number.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: red_death on August 07, 2020, 07:25:07 PM
I thought that you had to wait 28 days after posting to make a claim from RM? Has that changed?

Either way depending on local circumstances I wouldn't give up hope yet - we've had a few parcels take a substantially longer time than 2-3 days (the odd one longer than 14 days) for second signed for. But it has been entirely unpredictable and doesn't help in trying to work out what has happened as it depends on each stage of the RM that the parcel goes through and some have been hit much worse than others.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on August 08, 2020, 01:01:02 PM
WHAT IS IT WITH ROYAL MAIL  :veryangry:

waiting for a parcel from Hong Kong, last one arrived 10 days after being sent.

this one was doing quite well till I checked the tracking number this morning....

7 Aug 2020
8:36pm
In Transit-Sorry your item went to Inward RDC in error so we re-routed it immediately. More information will be available as it travels through our network.

7 Aug 2020
4:22pm
We've got it-We have your item at Outward RDC and its on its way. More information will be available as it travels through our network.

6 Aug 2020
6:30pm
Received-Royal Mail Received


are they trying to send it back ???

I thought that you had to wait 28 days after posting to make a claim from RM? Has that changed?

seems to depend on which person you speak to at RM customer services, or the web site which says 10 working days after due delivery date.

thinking  :beers: in a brewery  :hmmm:

by the way, item sent 23rd July still not received, but the one sent Thursday arrived this morning.

wondering if the way to go is special delivery, a couple of pounds more but next day guaranteed, and tracked through the system, so at least they can tell where to look when it gets lost.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on August 09, 2020, 04:14:10 PM
My car is currently dead, due to a sudden failure of the battery. It was working fine last week, parked up after an hour's drive and then sat for a week and would not even unlock. Manually unlocking it and jump starting it worked, I drove it and the alternator was delivering a good voltage, but the battery was totally dead again the next day. This afternoon, I borrowed my wife's car and drove to Eurocarparts for a battery (I had to go to another town as the local branch doesn't open on Sundays, despite being the larger town).

I got home, put the battery on the car and it was still dead. Checked with my meter and it was showing 5.8V - a completely duff battery. Phoned the shop, only to be told that they can't deliver a replacement as they don't deliver to my area and I need to contact my local branch (who will likely refuse to swap it as they are nothing to do with the sale) and of course, as they are not open today, that means me taking time out of my working day to sort the problem out.

As a "quality" battery (Exide Excel) I'd normally expect the battery to have a plastic cover on the positive terminal to prevent accidental shorts in stock and transit and a label saying when to recharge by if it is still in stock, but neither are present, so I have a suspicion that they've accidentally sold me a battery that they've removed from a vehicle when fitting a new one.

I am however fuming that they expect me to sort it out now, instead of just sticking another one in a taxi and having it delivered today - as it was impossible for me to get back to them before they shut for the day (plus I don't see why I should be wasting my time and fuel to sort out their mistake).

I am seriously considering sending them an invoice for any work hours I lose tomorrow - at my normal rate of £45 per hour + VAT.

Meanwhile, I have a car on the drive that not only cannot be used, but I cannot unlock the boot until I have a good battery and it is full of stuff that I need to get out - I can access it through the back seats, but it is very awkward and, having injured my arm, is too much of a strain for getting the heavy items out.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 09, 2020, 04:18:37 PM
In the past, I have temporarily fixed a dead battery by giving it a series of taps with a rubber mallet. Lead Sulphide can build up on a plate and prevent the acid getting in contact with the plate. Giving it a few belts with a rubber mallet can disturbed the coating and restore the battery.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on August 09, 2020, 04:42:44 PM
why cant you  jump the dead car off the wives car to open the  boot?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on August 09, 2020, 05:23:19 PM
just remember to keep the two cars running for a while.

back when on the AA went out to a guy who was 'in a rush', but had got a flat battery a mile or so from home.

"just jump start it, had to get a mate to do it at home to let me get to work"

:hmmm:

"did you leave them both running for a while ?"

"No, as soon as started, leads off and left for work"

:'(

got my jump leads on, started his car left it running for a while, noted red alternator light on...

"that came on as soon as I left home"

carried out checks, and gave him the good news ....

"Alternator gone"

always used to charge on my leads for a while, then start the 'flat' car, run a while longer, turn of his, then my leads.

then start his car with his battery, and carry out charging checks.

showed
1. his battery taking a charge
2. his alternator working.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on August 09, 2020, 05:32:31 PM
Quote from: class37025 on August 09, 2020, 05:23:19 PM
just remember to keep the two cars running for a while.

back when on the AA went out to a guy who was 'in a rush', but had got a flat battery a mile or so from home.

"just jump start it, had to get a mate to do it at home to let me get to work"

:hmmm:

"did you leave them both running for a while ?"

"No, as soon as started, leads off and left for work"

:'(

got my jump leads on, started his car left it running for a while, noted red alternator light on...

"that came on as soon as I left home"

carried out checks, and gave him the good news ....

"Alternator gone"

always used to charge on my leads for a while, then start the 'flat' car, run a while longer, turn of his, then my leads.

then start his car with his battery, and carry out charging checks.

showed
1. his battery taking a charge
2. his alternator working.

All very sound advice.

And may I had some more from my youthful days with my second car (1st I have bought myself).

Driving home, hear "boing", battery light come on.

Pull over (engine still running) poke about, note "rag" wrapped around front right.

Remove rag, get home.

Due to visit mate later on, car refuses to start.

Get said mate with posh VXR to jump me (steady!) and make it to a Halfords to get battery checked (didn't have a meter).

New battery bought as old one was "broken".

Get to mates house.

Go to leave mates house later, won't start.

AA turn up.

Lifts bonnet, laughs, closes bonnet.

Yep, that "rag" was my fan belt.

2x Aero engineers failed to spot it had gone ping.

:dunce:

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on August 09, 2020, 05:35:49 PM
Quote from: themadhippy on August 09, 2020, 04:42:44 PM
why cant you  jump the dead car off the wives car to open the  boot?

Because the leads won't reach without me having to move my car and with me in a lot of pain (badly arthritic knees and standing for 12 hours a day throughout last week, plus having injured my arm, my son having sprained his wrist and my wife being disabled), pushing it out onto the road and into a safe place is not currently practical.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 09, 2020, 06:06:44 PM
Can you just swap batteries for a while?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on August 09, 2020, 06:19:41 PM
Not so handy for solving the current situation immediately, but for future problems having one of these on hand is always useful. It'll jump start your car when you need it and you can use it to keep your phones charged too :)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Arteck-External-Automotive-Motorcycle-Flashlight/dp/B07SBMKMRR/ref=sr_1_21?dchild=1&keywords=battery+jump+starter+pack&qid=1596993444&sr=8-21 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Arteck-External-Automotive-Motorcycle-Flashlight/dp/B07SBMKMRR/ref=sr_1_21?dchild=1&keywords=battery+jump+starter+pack&qid=1596993444&sr=8-21)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on August 09, 2020, 07:26:40 PM
Quote from: Malc on August 09, 2020, 06:06:44 PM
Can you just swap batteries for a while?

Not exactly. Hers is a tiny thing with miniature posts and so can't be fitted to mine. I have now removed her battery and used jump leads to connect it to mine so as to operate the locks. That has allowed me to remove the heavy items that I couldn't get out through the back seats, but more importantly it has allowed me to lock the doors, which were all open and three of which do not have any way of locking them other than via the central locking! I'm just really annoyed at having to go through all this messing about and having lost the afternoon, because they sold me a battery that is either a removed, failed one or has been in storage for years without recharging - and in either case is shot. I had other things to get done today and have lost the opportunity now.

I probably wouldn't be making such a fuss, except that I am in a lot of pain at the moment and it's hard enough to get anything done, without wasting time and effort due to someone else's mess up.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on August 09, 2020, 07:29:27 PM
Quote from: zwilnik on August 09, 2020, 06:19:41 PM
Not so handy for solving the current situation immediately, but for future problems having one of these on hand is always useful. It'll jump start your car when you need it and you can use it to keep your phones charged too :)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Arteck-External-Automotive-Motorcycle-Flashlight/dp/B07SBMKMRR/ref=sr_1_21?dchild=1&keywords=battery+jump+starter+pack&qid=1596993444&sr=8-21 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Arteck-External-Automotive-Motorcycle-Flashlight/dp/B07SBMKMRR/ref=sr_1_21?dchild=1&keywords=battery+jump+starter+pack&qid=1596993444&sr=8-21)

I actually borrowed one of those first of all, but typically for rechargeable items, it was flat when it was needed.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on August 09, 2020, 09:19:51 PM
I called in a Morrisons for petrol on the way home on friday and a Range rover was broken down on one of the pumps, the lady had called the RAC and they turned up, the young mecanic was about to try to jump start the car till the petrol attendant who was on the ball informed them they could not jump start a car on a petrol forecourt, it was dangerous.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on August 09, 2020, 09:23:33 PM
Bit angry myself today with this covid lockdown buisness. Here in M/cr we are in a partial lockdown but I am sick of seeing others who think the rules do not apply to them. In and out of houses as if it does not apply to them, young ones in groups of ten or more, rant over.........
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 09, 2020, 09:29:33 PM
I've been very lucky in that the increased restrictions imposed on Preston only apply to Preston City Council areas, and I don't come under that even though the centre is just 5 miles away from me. Same applies to Mum.
I can't understand the mentality of people who would rather risk death than surrender boozing, parties, holidays etc.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on August 10, 2020, 09:04:32 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on August 09, 2020, 09:29:33 PM
I've been very lucky in that the increased restrictions imposed on Preston only apply to Preston City Council areas, and I don't come under that even though the centre is just 5 miles away from me. Same applies to Mum.
I can't understand the mentality of people who would rather risk death than surrender boozing, parties, holidays etc.
Unfortunately most of those attending are probably younger, so are risking the death of others, not themselves
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on August 10, 2020, 12:53:33 PM
Quote from: class37025 on June 04, 2020, 04:37:44 PM
I'll await the e-mail telling me it's been passed to the "Fast Action Response Specialists " :smiley-laughing:

amazingly, not one mention about Covid-19 in any of the e-mails, it's about all you get if you try to phone them  :veryangry:

by the way, I was very glad to see you managed to get your donation sorted, what sort of company sends a message like "oh, here's a few quid donated by some people, who we can't actually be arsed to list"  :censored:

a bump on this with an update.

two months after formal complaint sent, still not resolved, apart from repeated requests for info I've already sent.

so another e-mail sent to the director advising as not yet resolved, and quoted relavent paragraph in CSSF letter, would be passing the matter to CSSF and FSO in UK as formal complaints.

14 days later still not even acknowledged, and head nothing from 'executive solutions' or whatever their title is today.

chat on the phone with a very helpful guy at FSO, who are contacting Paypal, re my complaint, and advising them they have 14 days to provide a copy of the file on my complaint.

that should be fun.

so, still got money in Paypal acct, but can't spend it, transfer it, send it. :censored:

and that is now 3 1/2 months since this started.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on August 10, 2020, 01:36:03 PM
It's a pain, but you keep at it Alan - you will get there.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on August 10, 2020, 09:57:35 PM
Quote from: class37025 on August 08, 2020, 01:01:02 PM
WHAT IS IT WITH ROYAL MAIL  :veryangry:

waiting for a parcel from Hong Kong, last one arrived 10 days after being sent.

this one was doing quite well till I checked the tracking number this morning....

7 Aug 2020
8:36pm
In Transit-Sorry your item went to Inward RDC in error so we re-routed it immediately. More information will be available as it travels through our network.

7 Aug 2020
4:22pm
We've got it-We have your item at Outward RDC and its on its way. More information will be available as it travels through our network.

6 Aug 2020
6:30pm
Received-Royal Mail Received


are they trying to send it back ???

I thought that you had to wait 28 days after posting to make a claim from RM? Has that changed?

seems to depend on which person you speak to at RM customer services, or the web site which says 10 working days after due delivery date.

thinking  :beers: in a brewery  :hmmm:

by the way, item sent 23rd July still not received, but the one sent Thursday arrived this morning.

wondering if the way to go is special delivery, a couple of pounds more but next day guaranteed, and tracked through the system, so at least they can tell where to look when it gets lost.

at long last, RM finally delivered the parcel posted 23rd July so my fellow forum member has finally got his items.

and the parcel from China ?
now at my local delivery office, card being delivered tomorrow to tell me how much HM Customs want, and how much Robbing Mail wants on top.
then I can go online and pay, and tell them when to deliver it.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on August 11, 2020, 10:55:15 AM
WHAT A SHOCK TODAY  :o

e-mail from Paypal

Your account access has been restored.

We've reviewed the information you provided for Reference ID PP-L-228204622331 and have removed the limitation. You can now access any feature that was previously limited.

We appreciate your patience in helping us resolve this issue.


only took them from 18th May to 11th August, tons of e-mails, a formal complaint, and then suddenly, just days after FSO contacting them, it's restored.  :hmmm:

funny that.

needless to say, still no explanation or apology, but then with Paypal I wasn't really expecting one from the way they've acted.

still, I can now pay the fee due to RM, card received this morning, £12.72  :'(

Customs of £4.72 and RM handling fee of £8  :veryangry:
can't help but wonder if their miss sorting of it back into the inward RDC instead of to the local depot may have had something to do with it  :hmmm: perhaps it went through customs twice.

still, that should arrive tomorrow now, and I can get my money from Paypal.  :thumbsup:


update, thought it was too good to be true, RM can't redeliver until thursday  :'(

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on August 11, 2020, 10:59:30 AM
Success..... at last.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on August 11, 2020, 11:26:15 AM
Quote from: class37025 on August 11, 2020, 10:55:15 AM
WHAT A SHOCK TODAY  :o


Your account access has been restored.

We've reviewed the information you provided for Reference ID PP-L-228204622331 and have removed the limitation. You can now access any feature that was previously limited.

Alan, did my payment for the Class 20 get caught up in this fiasco?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on August 11, 2020, 11:46:59 AM
Hi Trev,
no, IIRC your payment went through before, and it was when I tried to spend it I found out about the 'limitation.

funny though, the one thing that could happen was funds go into my account, I just couldn't do anything with them..

more interest for Paypal I suppose  :veryangry:


also, phoned the local delivery office, spoke to a very helpful guy who said he'll check later on line that the payment made, and get the parcel delivered tomorrow.
apparently RM only updates the delivery offices once a day, and that is after the rounds have gone out, hence two days before delivery.
so, thank you to him  :thumbsup:

remember when it was called a 'walk' not a round  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 11, 2020, 11:50:44 AM
Glad things are resolving themselves, Alan, albeit slower than it should have been.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on August 11, 2020, 03:07:59 PM
Despite having a fly screen on the back door the little blighters still get in! I have to use an old fashioned fly swat as fly spray doesn't work. Is this some EU regulation that says that they are not allowed to harm insects? :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on August 12, 2020, 01:16:25 PM
Quote from: steve836 on August 11, 2020, 03:07:59 PM
Despite having a fly screen on the back door the little blighters still get in! I have to use an old fashioned fly swat as fly spray doesn't work. Is this some EU regulation that says that they are not allowed to harm insects? :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry:

This is what you need, the Executioner. Don't buy a cheap copy, this is far better and doesn't have the 'safety' grid covering it:

(http://www.sourcing4u.co.uk/ekmps/shops/s4ushop/images/the-executioner-bug-zapper-%5B2%5D-97-p.jpg)

Keep it away from children though  :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 12, 2020, 02:24:45 PM
That could also be used to slice tomatoes, eggs and various other foods.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on August 12, 2020, 02:43:01 PM
Alec, that thing would be of little use for me, fruit flies just get through the mesh, I had to stick some plastic over my similar one.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on August 12, 2020, 03:45:30 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on August 12, 2020, 01:16:25 PM


This is what you need, the Executioner. Don't buy a cheap copy, this is far better and doesn't have the 'safety' grid covering it:

(http://www.sourcing4u.co.uk/ekmps/shops/s4ushop/images/the-executioner-bug-zapper-%5B2%5D-97-p.jpg)

Keep it away from children though  :goggleeyes:

Anyone for tennis?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on August 12, 2020, 04:00:14 PM
QuoteAnyone for tennis?
wouldnt that be nice


Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on August 12, 2020, 05:20:13 PM
Can anyone tell me why free view has to keep continually keep changing the channel numbers around. Snooker was on red button 671 but seems to have moved back to 601, it used to be 601 before. Because of this you can not save a favourite channels list because you have to start again ever time they move them around it's a pain in the ****.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 12, 2020, 06:21:18 PM
Dunno, Chris. I think it's summat to do with mobile broadband, but 1000s of Freeview viewers are complaining even after retuning some channels are lost to them.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on August 16, 2020, 01:02:01 PM
Freeview is being b*99*r*d about a lot at the moment because of the 'need' to clear out frequency ranges for 5G and other services.

The current programme is here --> https://ukfree.tv/at700/list/all (https://ukfree.tv/at700/list/all)

Various other pages have more detailed info. My TV always reports that 'new channels have been found', but unless it's on or about any of the dates listed on the linked page I ignore that becuase it's only reporting that some channels are now broadcasting at that time that were not the last time I switched on (or are not, when they were).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on August 16, 2020, 01:29:41 PM
Freeview seems to involve no end of messing around with repeated re-tuning (our box loses all it's pre-set recording timers when it is re-tuned too). We pretty well gave up on it and have probably not used it for 18 months or more. We find no such problems with Freesat.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on August 16, 2020, 02:51:36 PM
We haven't got Freesat (or SKY) as SWMBO flat out refuses to have a dustbin lid mounted on the side of the house...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on August 16, 2020, 02:52:32 PM
Quote from: stevewalker on August 16, 2020, 01:29:41 PM
We find no such problems with Freesat.

I watch Freesat here in Ireland, by telling the box I have a BD2 postcode, ( :whistle:), and don't think I have ever had a problem.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on August 16, 2020, 03:07:15 PM
After a few years happy association with Ovo Energy, I fear their days are numbered in this household...

I was browsing my current on-line bill when an EMail dropped into my in-box regarding my Direct Debit for same. On-line, they say that my monthly payments are adequate for the consumption they project I will use until my contract anniversary in April next year. In the EMail, they contradict this and say I will have to increase my DD by nearly £10 a month (10.5%) to meet my projected consumption. There is a not-so-veiled threat that they'll do it anyway if I don't do it myself.

I left my previous supplier as they were wont to use me (and presumably their other customers) as some sort of private banking system (when we left I had to reclaim just shy of £500 from them as they kept increasing my DD and when I challenged them did reduce it, but bumped it up again a couple of months later), as well as three times unilaterally, and without informing me, booking Smart Meter installations.

Ovo have been very accomodating on both these fronts, letting me monitor my usage and calculate/change my DD myself, according to how I project usage. The situation has been complicated in that I had changed the way we heat our house and hot water last autumn, increasing gas consumption and reducing (to a greater amount) usage of electricity, so my bills should be lower, ot higher. Also, once I had told them, that unless they are prepared to install a Smart Meter that will be usable by other suppliers, then I'm not interested and they have left it at that.

I'm happy with my current DD payment, so if they do the dirty with the DD I'm quite prepared to say put it back down otherwise you'll have an ex-customer next April...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on August 16, 2020, 03:36:10 PM
Quote from: talisman56 on August 16, 2020, 03:07:15 PM
I'm quite prepared to say put it back down otherwise you'll have an ex-customer next April...

That's the way to do it!  ;). We get an electricity bill every two months and I pay a set amount each month. Every bill lists what the next three payments will be. I have a record of my own meter readings going back over five years, so if the monthly amount I am charged is to be increased, I can see if it is justified. If not, I am on the telephone asking why they will be increasing my monthly charge. I have only had to do this on three occasions and on two of those, the company agreed to keep the payments as they were and on the third, they actually reduced the monthly payment.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on August 16, 2020, 04:17:28 PM
Quote from: talisman56 on August 16, 2020, 03:07:15 PM
After a few years happy association with Ovo Energy, I fear their days are numbered in this household...

I was browsing my current on-line bill when an EMail dropped into my in-box regarding my Direct Debit for same. On-line, they say that my monthly payments are adequate for the consumption they project I will use until my contract anniversary in April next year. In the EMail, they contradict this and say I will have to increase my DD by nearly £10 a month (10.5%) to meet my projected consumption. There is a not-so-veiled threat that they'll do it anyway if I don't do it myself.

I left my previous supplier as they were wont to use me (and presumably their other customers) as some sort of private banking system (when we left I had to reclaim just shy of £500 from them as they kept increasing my DD and when I challenged them did reduce it, but bumped it up again a couple of months later), as well as three times unilaterally, and without informing me, booking Smart Meter installations.

Ovo have been very accomodating on both these fronts, letting me monitor my usage and calculate/change my DD myself, according to how I project usage. The situation has been complicated in that I had changed the way we heat our house and hot water last autumn, increasing gas consumption and reducing (to a greater amount) usage of electricity, so my bills should be lower, ot higher. Also, once I had told them, that unless they are prepared to install a Smart Meter that will be usable by other suppliers, then I'm not interested and they have left it at that.

I'm happy with my current DD payment, so if they do the dirty with the DD I'm quite prepared to say put it back down otherwise you'll have an ex-customer next April...

changed to Ovo many years ago, and they were much cheaper, but now they keep trying to increase my DD, 'because you will be in debit at the end of your contract'.

spoke to them again and again, explaining that I want my DD as it is, and if I'm in debit at the end of my contract, I'll pay that then.

they do not like this, but sod them, I'm in credit at the moment so they can swivel, and needless to say, when my contract is finished, I shall be an ex customer of Ovo.

also keep trying to get me to take a green energy option, which of course is more expensive, but as far as I know, lecky is lecky, comes down the same cable, and so they can 'go away'.

load of con merchants.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on August 16, 2020, 08:36:58 PM
I'm with SSE as are most of the residents in this block, our meters re not in the flats but in a separate "plant room" key held by site manager; at 86 I'm not as mobile as I was, so I relied on their 6 monthly meter reading, when I didn't supply a reading they bumped my DD up to £186PC ,  other residents are paying between £40 and £50, I got Citizens advice on the case and they have got me onto a register which means that SSE have to read the meter every 3 months, due to Covid this has been in abeyance, so SSE have reduced my DD to £90 PCM, citizens advice are now making them install a check meter to try and prove what I should be paying.

I'm on the economy 10 rate, which gives me a cheap rate for 5 hours overnight, 3 hours in the afternoon and 2 hours in the evening, this is not just for the night storage heaters and the main immersion heater but all electricity used in those "off peak" hours, so the washing machine and water heater get switched on and some of the cooking done in the afternoon or evening. This time of year no room heating is used, so where they get £90 PCM I just haven't a clue. I can't have a smart meter as they don't have one to do economy rate switching, plus the meter is not in the flat so I would not be able to do any monitoring.   
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 19, 2020, 01:14:03 PM
Just looked at the BBC website for the weather on Friday............

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/264-190820130655-9837830.jpeg)

Light rain and a fresh breeze.

So how come that lovely Carol Kirkwood lady on BBC Breakfast this morning stated categorically we were going to cop for pissistent heavy rain and winds between 50-60mph?

Is it completely beyond the Beeb's capability to present the same info across the media?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 19, 2020, 01:21:03 PM
And another one while I'm here. ...........

Seems there was a drinking party in Manchester with 100 or so people present. Police were pelted with missiles when they tried to break it up. The party organiser was fined £100.
If they had a whip round that would be £1 per person.

Matt Hancock stated on TV this morning fines from now on would be doubled.

Big deal. How about £5000? How about allowing the authorities to break such gatherings up with tear gas/water cannon?
These people are never going to learn without harsh penalties.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MinZaPint on August 20, 2020, 01:53:39 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on August 19, 2020, 01:14:03 PM
Just looked at the BBC website for the weather on Friday............

Is it completely beyond the Beeb's capability to present the same info across the media?

Yes! unfortunately, their weather forecasting is getting worse and as you point out they cannot keep up with themselves. We try to have small social gatherings (4 of us) outside once a week and this has become impossible to organise 2 days in advance!   :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on August 20, 2020, 02:11:38 PM
How about allowing the authorities to break such gatherings up with tear gas/water cannon?

don't forget the good old rubber bullet  :thumbsup:

"you throw an egg at me, punk, you get one of these in return."

I know,a misquote, IIRC it should be

"you send one of ours to the hospital, we send of of yours to the morgue"
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on August 20, 2020, 02:14:41 PM
Apparently, the beeb don't use the met office for their weather reports anymore, it's someone called MeteoGroup, maybe that's something to do with it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 20, 2020, 02:49:41 PM
Quote from: TrevL on August 20, 2020, 02:14:41 PM
Apparently, the beeb don't use the met office for their weather reports anymore, it's someone called MeteoGroup, maybe that's something to do with it.

But surely they source the info for both the BBC website and for Carol (there's a warm front coming in) Kirkwood?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on August 20, 2020, 03:04:08 PM
Are you refering to the magnificent Pinky and Perky? ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 20, 2020, 03:08:56 PM
Quote from: TrevL on August 20, 2020, 03:04:08 PM
Are you refering to the magnificent Pinky and Perky? ;)

I couldn't possibly comment :no: ;)
(I nearly typed "I couldn't possibly expand on that" but it would have been worse)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on August 20, 2020, 03:17:24 PM
It just grows on you don't it?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 21, 2020, 10:42:51 AM
I would think that Carol would check on the facts during the rehearsals so is probably more accurate, but the web site will probably only be updated once a day, if not once every few days.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on August 21, 2020, 12:40:42 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on August 19, 2020, 01:21:03 PM
And another one while I'm here. ...........

Seems there was a drinking party in Manchester with 100 or so people present.

...

How about allowing the authorities to break such gatherings up with tear gas/water cannon?

I have often thought that where groups are too large to safely break up, they should be given a 15 minute warning to disperse and any failing to do so should be sprayed with bright orange, indelible dye. A couple of weeks of not being able to go out without being spotted by everyone might be a good deterrent.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on August 21, 2020, 01:46:40 PM
first job when I left school in 196x  :-[ was at the Met office, or to give it it's full title in those days 'Air Ministry Meteorological Office'.

interview at RAF Upavon,
then letter telling me to report to RAF Lynham awaiting a training course.
'worked' under supervision in both the main office, and the office in the control tower, where I learnt to take obs, how to code and send them, and also how to launch and track weather baloons

lived in the RAF transit block,but was well looked after by the various guys there  :beers:

then posted to Stanmore to the Met Office training school, and on completion of my course was posted to the Central Forecasting Office at the then HQ in Bracknel

we lived in a large house, and between work and our accomodation was a lovely pub, 'The Boot'  :beers:

work comprised plotting maps for the forecasters, and after a while I was moved downstairs to the long range forecasting department where we collated data from the daily obs to plott on charts for 5 day and 30 day charts for the forecasters.

it was here that I had my first contact with a computer.

it was HUGE !

data was input on punched paper tape, having been transcribed from punched cards.

cutting edge stuff . :goggleeyes:

needless to say, got fed up with working in an office all day / night, and ended up leaving to get a job where I was actually outside.

now of course it's a commercial company, and can't even get the weather right today, let alone 5 or 30 days in advance, but no doubt makes a nice profit.

of course it's all computers and satellites nowadays, in those days there were ex corvettes on station in the Atlantic, and RAF Hastings flew met flights out into the Atlantic to take obs etc of what was really happening.

so inefficient and expensive no doubt, but we felt that it was capable of supplying accurate forecasts.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on August 21, 2020, 01:49:21 PM
Quote from: stevewalker on August 21, 2020, 12:40:42 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on August 19, 2020, 01:21:03 PM
And another one while I'm here. ...........

Seems there was a drinking party in Manchester with 100 or so people present.

...

How about allowing the authorities to break such gatherings up with tear gas/water cannon?

I have often thought that where groups are too large to safely break up, they should be given a 15 minute warning to disperse and any failing to do so should be sprayed with bright orange, indelible dye. A couple of weeks of not being able to go out without being spotted by everyone might be a good deterrent.

they'd probably get legal aid to sue the police, and win compensation for damage and stress  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 21, 2020, 02:13:06 PM
Can you imagine trying to fix a date for Operation Overlord with these numpties we have today?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on August 21, 2020, 02:27:16 PM
probably, with their penchant for U turns, end up invading Isle of Man  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Young Bulla on August 21, 2020, 02:38:05 PM
Not without self isolating for fourteen days first I hope!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on August 21, 2020, 02:49:26 PM
might have to consult the algorithm ...

can't remember what the rule is this week, is it 2m or 1m apart, and do you need to wear a mask for a beach assault ?

I take it there would be someone at the bottom of the ramp taking temperatures ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on August 21, 2020, 05:49:14 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on August 21, 2020, 02:13:06 PM
Can you imagine trying to fix a date for Operation Overlord with these numpties we have today?

HSE would would have had something to say about that and probably put a stop to it on the grounds of human safety......
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on August 21, 2020, 06:07:02 PM
Quote from: stevewalker on August 21, 2020, 12:40:42 PM
I have often thought that where groups are too large to safely break up, they should be given a 15 minute warning to disperse and any failing to do so should be sprayed with bright orange, indelible dye.

You should take a walk around parts of Swindon, there are plenty of young 'ladies' there who have spent far too much on spray tans during lockdown and you'd never know whether they'd been to a dispersed gathering or not  :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 21, 2020, 06:30:57 PM
Sorry, Chaps, but I was referring to the weather forecasters regarding Overlord, otherwise my post would have been political and I'd have had to punish myself severely.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ted on September 04, 2020, 04:02:37 PM
My first 'bad luck' with ebay.

I won a CL47 in red postal sector livery.

The listing said "Please be aware this has had new gears so no chance of the old ones fracturing. Excellent runner will be missed."

Not only is there damage to the cantrail (not shown in the photos), but it runs like :censored:. Jerky, lights flickering and with an audible clicking in one-direction... as per split-gear syndrome!

How could the seller get it so wrong.

I really wanted a Parcels Red & Grey liveried 47. Bah! :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on September 04, 2020, 04:06:58 PM
Quote from: Ted on September 04, 2020, 04:02:37 PM
My first 'bad luck' with ebay.

I won a CL47 in red postal sector livery.

The listing said "Please be aware this has had new gears so no chance of the old ones fracturing. Excellent runner will be missed."

Not only is there damage to the cantrail (not shown in the photos), but it runs like :censored:. Jerky, lights flickering and with an audible clicking in one-direction... as per split-gear syndrome!

How could the seller get it so wrong.

I really wanted a Parcels Red & Grey liveried 47. Bah! :(

Oh eck, I actually seriously thought about that one.

It's got to go back, that is a clear case of not as described. I would even suggest this was the donor loco in a chassis swop and he sent you the wrong one!

Let us know how it gets resolved.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ted on September 04, 2020, 04:17:42 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on September 04, 2020, 04:06:58 PM
Quote from: Ted on September 04, 2020, 04:02:37 PM
My first 'bad luck' with ebay.

I won a CL47 in red postal sector livery.

The listing said "Please be aware this has had new gears so no chance of the old ones fracturing. Excellent runner will be missed."

Not only is there damage to the cantrail (not shown in the photos), but it runs like :censored:. Jerky, lights flickering and with an audible clicking in one-direction... as per split-gear syndrome!

How could the seller get it so wrong.

I really wanted a Parcels Red & Grey liveried 47. Bah! :(

Oh eck, I actually seriously thought about that one.

It's got to go back, that is a clear case of not as described. I would even suggest this was the donor loco in a chassis swop and he sent you the wrong one!

Let us know how it gets resolved.

Skyline2uk

It's also quite oily as well, that raises my suspicions.

The seller has already offered a refund, I had suggested I was going to keep it and fix the cantrail damage. But I'm not footing the bill for gears etc too.

Can't win 'em all!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on September 04, 2020, 04:23:21 PM
@Ted (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6946) , make sure you get refunded for postage each way as well.

Let's be kind and say somebody truly attempted to fix it and made a bit of a hash.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on September 19, 2020, 01:23:50 PM
I am having trouble with my internet, I keep losing the signal. I have rung Virgin Media several times, you never get to speak to someone unless your lucky. Every time they run tests on the line and found no fault anyway after hanging on for ages I got to speak to somebody on Thursday.He eventually told me it must be the hub/router, So he said they would send a new one on Monday ? Why so long, anyway it turned up yesterday. They just assumed I would fit it myself which I did but guess what it has made no difference, the connection dropped again last night about 7.45pm. I rung again they did a test and found a intermittent fault but the call centre was closed because of covid, that is the latest excuse. Strangely the internet has been fine since but Virgin Media support lacks a lot.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on September 20, 2020, 10:07:52 PM
Well my internet seems to be behaving, sometimes I wonder if they just turn you off and see if you notice.
The trouble is I have swapped my tv's around and since I put my LG back it siad re tune so I did and have lost a few channels. The thing is everytime I tried to retune it came up with a different number of channels but never the one I used to watch(ch64 free sport). I have put a new tv in the railway room and that tv cant get the same channnel and again different results everytime you re tune. After spending the whole afternoon trying I have give up it makes my blood boil. I have one tv in our bedroom that can get channel 64, that is not being re tuned what  ever it says.

I have Virgin Media just found it on the front room tv on VM has 553, swmbo will be happy now.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on September 21, 2020, 12:37:17 AM
You'll be using the Winter Hill transmitter, the same as around here (Urmston). We haven't had a problem, mainly because we use Freesat and not Digital Terrestial TV, but we can get DTV and things seem ok on out wideband aerial. However, my parents are nearby and they have had problems too. Apparently work has been going on at Winter Hill, moving channels (to fee up spectrum for 5G). It is also suggested that a band A aerial is needed now (was C/D), although that will probably not pick any channels on the temporary MUX 7, while Wideband aerials will normally be fine.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on September 21, 2020, 12:46:35 AM
Thanks for that Steve, I had forgot my LG has freesat and I connected my old Sky dish to it I might try it tomorrow. Yes they have done work on the transmitter making room for the phone network but that was finished in August I think. I checked yesterday and there was no work going on at Winter hill. The strange thing is it was working on Wednesday on the Lg tv but now evertime I try a retune I get variable results, from Winterhill it should be 138 channels, It went down to 124 and even lower. I have a LG tv upstairs in the bedroom connected to the same ariel which has the channel, another tv in my loft room with its own ariel cant get it. Thanks anyway.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on September 21, 2020, 11:14:55 AM
Quote from: lil chris on September 19, 2020, 01:23:50 PM
I am having trouble with my internet, I keep losing the signal. I have rung Virgin Media several times, you never get to speak to someone unless your lucky. Every time they run tests on the line and found no fault anyway after hanging on for ages I got to speak to somebody on Thursday.He eventually told me it must be the hub/router, So he said they would send a new one on Monday ? Why so long, anyway it turned up yesterday. They just assumed I would fit it myself which I did but guess what it has made no difference, the connection dropped again last night about 7.45pm. I rung again they did a test and found a intermittent fault but the call centre was closed because of covid, that is the latest excuse. Strangely the internet has been fine since but Virgin Media support lacks a lot.

sounds like the problem I had some time ago.
in the end I got them to send out an engineer, and he said my signal was TOO STRONG  :hmmm: and changed a thing that looked like a sim card in the hub, and since then [tempting fate] it's been ok.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on September 22, 2020, 10:36:09 AM
As more and more people use mail order there is a greater demand for delivery drivers and as a result there are more and more inexperienced van drivers tearing round trying to deliver parcels in unrealistic time scales.
We live in a small cul-de-sac where numerous drivers whizz down only to discover that turning their large van is no walk in the park so the more experienced reverse out whereas the newbies think "I could turn my car here so how hard can it be in my massive van?".
Anyhow my car has now been hit twice in 3 weeks! First time by white van man who just drove off but luckily (?) today by an APC driver who actually stopped and knocked on my door to apologize and his depot contacted. They don't go through their insurers so we'll wait and see what happens. I'll give them a couple of days max.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on September 22, 2020, 10:55:53 AM
Not good and I have certainly heard of cars being hit by turning vehicles, while parked in their drives. On the other hand, I am amazed how many end of cul-de-sac turning areas are always blocked by residents parking in them.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on September 22, 2020, 11:17:41 AM
Quote from: stevewalker on September 22, 2020, 10:55:53 AM
I am amazed how many end of cul-de-sac turning areas are always blocked by residents parking in them.
Oh, I agree and having been a Royal Mail delivery driver for years often cursed at residents that parked in turning areas. What I didn't do was just have a go at turning anyway, I reversed out. As it is no one was parked in the turning area, it was just a case of inexperience, not knowing the size of his van or understanding that as you reverse your front corner swings out!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 22, 2020, 11:23:10 AM
I live in what used to be a quiet cul-de-sac but nowadays it seems all and sundry use it to turn round easily rather than do a 3 point turn, which I reckon most of them haven't heard of let alone do ::)
A month or so ago we even had a bloody artic in the close!
Anyone delivering to an address in the close then fine, but I'm more worried about my cat being mown down than I am my car being hit on the drive :worried:
Kids can't play out as even the residents don't obey the 20mph limit imposed, I believe, nationwide in such streets.
We're also being invaded by cars with exhausts that would instantly fail a noise level test. You know, the ones with stereo systems worth 10-20 times the value of the car it's fitted in.
I guess I'm getting just old and intolerant.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on September 22, 2020, 11:31:42 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on September 22, 2020, 11:23:10 AM
I live in what used to be a quiet cul-de-sac but nowadays it seems all and sundry use it to turn round easily rather than do a 3 point turn, which I reckon most of them haven't heard of let alone do ::)
A month or so ago we even had a bloody artic in the close!
Anyone delivering to an address in the close then fine, but I'm more worried about my cat being mown down than I am my car being hit on the drive :worried:
Kids can't play out as even the residents don't obey the 20mph limit imposed, I believe, nationwide in such streets.
We're also being invaded by cars with exhausts that would instantly fail a noise level test. You know, the ones with stereo systems worth 10-20 times the value of the car it's fitted in.
I guess I'm getting just old and intolerant.

Not a question of you getting old Mick.

I am also annoyed and fear for my cats (+Gremlin / Mini Skyline) because of the way people drive down our close. We are at the end and have a driveway in front of our garage that I always reverse on to.

The amount of times I have arrived at the end of the road to find some dithering fool stopped at an odd angle preventing me from accessing my drive. He / she only intend on turning round and no concept of other vehicles.

Worse still is when somebody follows me down and is baffled / looks annoyed when I position my car to back into my drive rather than get out of their way.

Normally this is people who actually live further up the road and can't be bothered to park facing the right way, but sometimes visitors / delivery vans.

Humbug!

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on September 22, 2020, 11:35:46 AM
I'm starting to think I'm the only person on here who doesn't live in a Close or Cul-de-sac. I also get issues sometimes with people parking opposite my drive. Not usually a huge problem but if someone also parks on my side of the road the visibility is almost zero. The only plus point is that drivers have to slow down to negotiate the chicane created.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 22, 2020, 12:03:21 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on September 22, 2020, 11:31:42 AM

Not a question of you getting old Mick.


Our problem is exacerbated by too many folks living in the cul-de-sac who make a living with a company van. These get strewn willy-nilly half on/half off the pavement or parked next to the entrance/exit to the close. A woman 2 doors down has her car + a mobile home thingy parked just where the road narrows into the turning circle. We all have too many vehicles and I think a law should be passed stating if you cannot park off the road you can't have the vehicle. Maybe if their front gardens had to be paved over some might think twice.
(Memories of the morning car shuffle in 'Butterflies')
Grrrr.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on September 22, 2020, 12:27:01 PM
The trouble with that is what alternative do people have? My parents have parking for one car on the drive, it narrows too much after that and their front garden is too short for a second driveway.

When I and my sister still lived there we had 4 cars. My dad needed his company car, as he travelled all over the country for work, my mum needed hers as she was looking after her mother and her mother-in-law in two separate places, plus taking them on hospital/doctors appointments and shopping trips. I needed one, as my alternative was 2-1/2 hours each way to and from work (assuming 3 buses, or two buses and a train or two and a tram or a train and a bus and a tram all ran on time). My sister did without for a while, but she was travelling daily to university by 3 buses, involving early starts, long travel times, running between two stops, frequent missed connections and then having to walk through a long underpass where three female students were raped in the space of a couple of weeks ... so she too switched to a car.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on September 22, 2020, 01:16:49 PM
There are certainly issues around here with more cars than parking spaces and plain dunderheads that park where they want but I still stick by my thoughts on the latest batch of delivery drivers.
They've spent their driving lives in a car and are suddenly let loose in a 20+ foot van without any kind of training and, I'm sure this will upset some people, around here I can guarantee most of their driving experience has been in a left hand drive car.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dr Al on September 22, 2020, 01:25:41 PM
Quote from: thebrighton on September 22, 2020, 10:36:09 AM
As more and more people use mail order there is a greater demand for delivery drivers and as a result there are more and more inexperienced van drivers tearing round trying to deliver parcels in unrealistic time scales.
We live in a small cul-de-sac where numerous drivers whizz down only to discover that turning their large van is no walk in the park so the more experienced reverse out whereas the newbies think "I could turn my car here so how hard can it be in my massive van?".
Anyhow my car has now been hit twice in 3 weeks! First time by white van man who just drove off but luckily (?) today by an APC driver who actually stopped and knocked on my door to apologize and his depot contacted. They don't go through their insurers so we'll wait and see what happens. I'll give them a couple of days max.

Get a front/rear dashcam with parking mode. Then you can claim 3rd party even if they drive off.

Given the cost of paintwork repairs, £100 spent on a camera setup quickly can pay itself back - I got mine (Viofo A129 duo) nearly new for £84 on ebay, and adding a hardwire kit took it to just over 100. Has worked flawlessly.

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on September 22, 2020, 01:52:51 PM
Quote from: Dr Al on September 22, 2020, 01:25:41 PM
Get a front/rear dashcam with parking mode. Then you can claim 3rd party even if they drive off.
Given the cost of paintwork repairs, £100 spent on a camera setup quickly can pay itself back - I got mine (Viofo A129 duo) nearly new for £84 on ebay, and adding a hardwire kit took it to just over 100. Has worked flawlessly.

I can certainly see the benefits of a dashcam but it's the inconvenience of getting the repairs done. Not sure how good some of these dashcams are but when it's the side of your car hit I'm not sure if the numberplate would ever be visible :(  Basically I'm at the end of the road so the vans parallel park next to me then hit me with their front corner when they start reversing and turning.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dr Al on September 22, 2020, 01:54:55 PM
Quote from: thebrighton on September 22, 2020, 01:52:51 PM
Quote from: Dr Al on September 22, 2020, 01:25:41 PM
Get a front/rear dashcam with parking mode. Then you can claim 3rd party even if they drive off.
Given the cost of paintwork repairs, £100 spent on a camera setup quickly can pay itself back - I got mine (Viofo A129 duo) nearly new for £84 on ebay, and adding a hardwire kit took it to just over 100. Has worked flawlessly.

I can certainly see the benefits of a dashcam but it's the inconvenience of getting the repairs done. Not sure how good some of these dashcams are but when it's the side of your car hit I'm not sure if the numberplate would ever be visible :(  Basically I'm at the end of the road so the vans parallel park next to me then hit me with their front corner when they start reversing and turning.

True - you could buy an additional mount and mount it pointing to the side window or viewing area needed when parking though. A pain maybe, but if it catches them then it's a start.

Cheers,
A
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on September 23, 2020, 08:28:03 AM
We don't live on a Cul De sac, however it is a 2 mile single track road that turns into a green lane at one end. We live opposite a side road which is also a dead end unless you have a Duck (DUKW).

So we get artics doing 3 point turns using the side road, tourists with caravans  who missed the previous turning, doing many point turns and cars using our driveway as a passing place. Our front fence has been hit many times, not one driver has ever stopped to report it.

As it is I've built the fence as a box raised bed to contain plants and more importantly as a defence for the house which is only 5ft from the road. Before I built the fence / raised bed we had them driving over the curb to within inches of the house..

A new version of the fence raised bed is planned , hollow concrete blocks, filled with soil and a bit taller. If they hit that their body work will show the results..
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on September 23, 2020, 02:44:34 PM
We live in a Cul-de-Sac and have stolen part of our lawn to make a driveway large enough for both our cars. I get people visiting the lady who does dressmaking and alterations  next door one way parking half on the pavement outside our house, sometimes even blocking part of the drive; and carers visiting the old gent next door the other way parking similarly, both even though the road is wide enough for legal parking, and there is often room  to park neatly and tidily a little further down the road. Some people can't walk that extra 5 yards...

The one that takes the biscuit is the young lady carer who arrived just after I did, and I had parked next to the kerb as I was going out again fairly shortly afterwards, otherwise I would have parked on the drive. Before going to turn at the end of the road, she pulled up next to me as I was getting a rather large and unwieldy box out of the rear of my car, rolled down the window and said "Can you not park there, I have to visit the man in the house next door." I replied that I live here, and she could go park elsewhere and walk, it'll do you good...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on September 23, 2020, 02:57:43 PM
After a long afternoon in the John Radcliffe Hospital (Oxford, UK) on Monday, my partner and I popped in to the onsite M&S store to pickup something for dinner. I treated myself to a packet of M&S Custard Creams - a bargain at 40p thought I.

Fast-forward to today when I find the same packet of biscuits in another M&S store a few miles away priced at 35p!

So our medics and the sick get to pay a 5p premium!?!


I've posted this on LinkedIn and tagged #marksandspencer
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on September 23, 2020, 03:41:05 PM
Quote from: talisman56 on September 23, 2020, 02:44:34 PM
We live in a Cul-de-Sac and have stolen part of our lawn to make a driveway large enough for both our cars. I get people visiting the lady who does dressmaking and alterations  next door one way parking half on the pavement outside our house, sometimes even blocking part of the drive; and carers visiting the old gent next door the other way parking similarly, both even though the road is wide enough for legal parking, and there is often room  to park neatly and tidily a little further down the road. Some people can't walk that extra 5 yards...

The one that takes the biscuit is the young lady carer who arrived just after I did, and I had parked next to the kerb as I was going out again fairly shortly afterwards, otherwise I would have parked on the drive. Before going to turn at the end of the road, she pulled up next to me as I was getting a rather large and unwieldy box out of the rear of my car, rolled down the window and said "Can you not park there, I have to visit the man in the house next door." I replied that I live here, and she could go park elsewhere and walk, it'll do you good...

a far more restrained response that she would have got from me, I can assure you.

last year I had some idiot park on the verge outside my house, moving the two cones I'd placed there to stop anyone parking, and when I asked him to move I got told to  :censored: :censored: :censored:
and off he walked up the road.
ten minutes later, my delivery arrived, bulk bags and pallets of bricks  :)

"where do you want them" asked the helpful driver
:hmmm: >:D

that's right a pallet of 400 odd bricks 6 inches off his front bumper, and a 1 ton bulk bag six inches off his back bumper.

a couple of hours later a knock on the door ...

"I can't move my car!"

"I did ask you not to park there and explained why"

" but how am I going to get home ?"

I think I'd wear out the  :censored: button if I reported my response.

he had to come back the next day to get his car  :smiley-laughing:

haven't seen him since  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 23, 2020, 03:52:25 PM
Quote from: talisman56 on September 23, 2020, 02:44:34 PM

The one that takes the biscuit is the young lady carer who arrived just after I did, and I had parked next to the kerb as I was going out again fairly shortly afterwards, otherwise I would have parked on the drive. Before going to turn at the end of the road, she pulled up next to me as I was getting a rather large and unwieldy box out of the rear of my car, rolled down the window and said "Can you not park there, I have to visit the man in the house next door." I replied that I live here, and she could go park elsewhere and walk, it'll do you good...

I congratulate you on your restraint. She'd have learnt some fluent Anglo-Saxon off me.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Thorpe Parva on September 23, 2020, 04:30:10 PM
Quote from: RailGooner on September 23, 2020, 02:57:43 PM
After a long afternoon in the John Radcliffe Hospital (Oxford, UK) on Monday, my partner and I popped in to the onsite M&S store to pickup something for dinner. I treated myself to a packet of M&S Custard Creams - a bargain at 40p thought I.

Fast-forward to today when I find the same packet of biscuits in another M&S store a few miles away priced at 35p!

So our medics and the sick get to pay a 5p premium!?!


I've posted this on LinkedIn and tagged #marksandspencer

We have a BR garage nearby with an attached M&S Simply Food; the prices of most items are higher than in the main M&S in town. Similarly our local Texco Metro has higher prices than in the regular Tesco supermarket.

The retailers will say that it's about economies of scale but I also believe that their term for purchases made in this type of store is that it's a "distress purchase". ie you're paying for covenience & lack of any alternative.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: javlinfaw7 on September 23, 2020, 04:46:42 PM
Some of the M&S hospital stores are franchises ,in our local hospital it was W.H.Smiths that ran it  so this also may go some way  the price difference
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on September 23, 2020, 05:00:52 PM
And it's not just the retailer I should direct my ire toward. Oxford University Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust should drop their heads in shame for signing a deal that allows M&S and others to rip off their staff and patients. :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on September 23, 2020, 05:26:41 PM
M+S will blame the high ground rent being charged by the land owners,the NHS trust will blame the company  they've tendered the site management out to and the site managment will be unobtainable for comment whilst pocketing there wedge from both sides.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mickeyflinn on September 23, 2020, 06:27:54 PM
My wife worked for the NHS at our local hospital. She used to describe the shop in there as the "Rob-A-Shop" - everything in there was more expensive than you could get at the corner shop let alone the supermarket (unless it had a price flash, but that was generally only on the reading material). As others have said, they've got a captive audience!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on September 23, 2020, 07:29:25 PM
QuoteShe used to describe the shop in there as the "Rob-A-Shop" - everything in there was more expensive than you could get at the corner shop let alone the supermarket
if its run  independently then they aint got the buying power to get the same sort of discounts ,and  often limited space to hold large stock levels.when i briefly worked for the nhs the shop  was run by the rvs,yea prices were a penny or 2 more than the  corner shop,but any profits were spent within the hospital,now that shop has gone,the large foyer looks more like a shopping center with coffee shops florists etc and  profits are disapearing into  offshore bank accounts
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on September 23, 2020, 07:51:18 PM
never had a problem with the 'friends of XXX hospital' running shops / cafes and charging a few pence extra. usually any change went into the charity pot, now if some national chain runs it, there is no chance of any donation, as you never know where it will actually go, a charity, or the firms profits.

yes I know,
I'm a suspicious  :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on September 24, 2020, 09:13:46 AM
I suspect the Hospital is charging a huge rent for the premises, like their charges for parking to bring in money from that.. My hate is the fact most Hospitals charge staff to park...

Similarly  the huge prices on motorways for petrol are caused by the huge rent fees from HMG for the service station sites.

Small shops even those owned by the big chains have much more expenses. From the city centre sites being more expensive to rent and rate than an edge of town site (per square foot). To the loads being much less than an artic load, so more expensive to deliver,  to the fact that the number of staff per unit sold tends to be much higher..
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on September 24, 2020, 09:31:11 AM
QuoteI suspect the Hospital is charging a huge rent for the premises, like their charges for parking to bring in money from that.. My hate is the fact most Hospitals charge staff to park...

My best man works in a big London hospital and his wife is a Nurse there.

They not only would have to pay for parking, but have recently lost their passes for public transport. Still at least they got a raise in this Covid mess....oh wait they didn't.

Still at least they got a clap  ::)

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on September 24, 2020, 09:58:13 AM
Quote from: The Q on September 24, 2020, 09:13:46 AM
Small shops even those owned by the big chains have much more expenses. From the city centre sites being more expensive to rent and rate than an edge of town site (per square foot). To the loads being much less than an artic load, so more expensive to deliver,  to the fact that the number of staff per unit sold tends to be much higher..

While that it certainly true, the charges at hospital shops are outrageous - they have a captive audience and they know it.

When my wife had an emergency admission, we had not planned to be there and had nothing with us. She needed a few bits, including toothpaste and toothbrush. The hospital shop has the buying power of WHSmith behind it and 1 member of staff most of the time,  yet their price for a tiny tube of toothpaste was £3.50 - while our local shop, with no buying power sells tubes 6 times the size for £1.50. Similarly, paperback books were priced at over £7 each, small bottles of fizzy drink at £3. They know people can't go elsewhere and they capitalise on it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on September 24, 2020, 02:28:59 PM
QuoteI suspect the Hospital is charging a huge rent for the premises, like their charges for parking to bring in money from that..
the hospital  will be making very little money on the deal,the money is being made by the management company who have the contract to look after estate.same goes for motorway services,owned by the government but operated by a management company.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on September 25, 2020, 04:01:07 PM
Well very angry last night, thanks  Virgin Media My internet down again For two hours this time, and what now seems to be a excuse due to covid we are low on staff so we can't help you. It seems funny it is always on a thursday afternoon about the same time, it did go off last Friday has well even with a new hub/router. Makes me mad they ask you what fault you have, in my case broad band, then tell you to go online because the are busy and short of staff. The thing is they sent me a new hub but you have to fit it yourself, they do not send a engineer, lucky I was capable of fitting it. They just assume you can ft it yourself, I rung them yesterday and also went online when the network came back on still not heard a thing from them. It maybe time to have a change, too ruddy dear  in the first place. Anybody know a reliable and cheap internet supplier in the northwest Uk.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on September 25, 2020, 04:11:16 PM
Quote from: lil chris on September 25, 2020, 04:01:07 PM
Well very angry last night, thanks  Virgin Media My internet down again For two hours this time, and what now seems to be a excuse due to covid we are low on staff so we can't help you. It seems funny it is always on a thursday afternoon about the same time, it did go off last Friday has well even with a new hub/router. Makes me mad they ask you what fault you have, in my case broad band, then tell you to go online because the are busy and short of staff. The thing is they sent me a new hub but you have to fit it yourself, they do not send a engineer, lucky I was capable of fitting it. They just assume you can ft it yourself, I rung them yesterday and also went online when the network came back on still not heard a thing from them. It maybe time to have a change, too ruddy dear  in the first place. Anybody know a reliable and cheap internet supplier in the northwest Uk.

when my initial contract with virgin dickheads came to an end, they doubled the charge.
got in touch and said no way, either cheaper or I walk.

funny, came back with a new deal  :veryangry:

when this one finishes, I'm going back to Plusnet.

at least their staff speak english, not 'english' reading a  :censored: script.

left BT many years ago because of their mumbai call centres, told me I wasn't a customer, but couldn't then explain why they sent me a bill each month.

so, for me it's going to be back to the northern  :censored: who do actually help you.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on September 25, 2020, 05:36:53 PM
currently on talk talk,been with then about 6 months without any issues,previously was plusnet,only reason for changing was to get the lowest price.Was with bt,but there price was ridiculous,along with them wanting to increase my monthly payments even though i was over a £100 in credit.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on September 26, 2020, 07:54:10 PM
I don't think it matters who you're with, they all have problems - just look online at the complaints people make.

In our case we moved from Sky to TalkTalk to get their cheaper TV package - only for them to send a written acknowledgement of order and then when it was getting close to changeover and I'd not received their modem/router, I called and was told that they had no record of my order! The had to re do the order and they messed that up, so after the broadband and phone switched, we found we were on part of their network that could not get their TV service, due to processing the order incorrectly! Many months passed, with being told that things were due to change and we would get it, despite newspaper reports of changes of plan that meant we wouldn't for a couple of years. Meanwhile our caller ID didn't work despite it being shown as active (they did manage to sort that). At another point broadband failed and it took 3 weeks to get them to send someone from OpenReach. At one point they arranged for a Saturday visit, I cancelled the kids swimming lessons and stayed home all day, only for no-one to turn up (despite repeated assurances during the day that they would) and for calls to them to go unanswered or be cut off as soon as I asked to talk to a supervisor. Then someone arrived with no appointment, when we were out and then did the same again 48 hours later! There was no way to talk to OpenReach and the people we could talk to at TalkTalk couldn't speak directly to OpenReach either - everything was by email, across three different tiers of TT. I told them I wanted to leave, but they wanted to apply an exit penalty. I only managed to finally get out, without penalty, when they accidentally connected me to a UK call centre.

We have been with PlusNet since, but are looking to leave them now. The latest problem was our connection slowing to a crawl and even timing out accessing some sites. We tracked it down to our router not coping with an ongoing bombardment of attempts (originating mainly in China, some in Vietnam and the odd one in Rumania) to break into our home server. I phoned Plusnet, explained the situation and asked to change our fixed IP address. I followed that up with accessing the ticket created and attaching logs from our router and a full explanation - noting that we'd had to block the ports in the meantime, preventing us accessing them while away from the house . Two weeks later they asked me was my PC to router connection over Wi-Fi? I told them that it was over Gigabit Ethernet and that, as the logs showed, we were under sustained, external attack. 3 months later, they've still done nothing and I am not willing to give them the chance now.

We also have a problem with the copper here. Every few years it fails and OpenReach have to shift us to a different pair in the multicore. Some times it has just been done, sometimes the person sent has said that he only deals with voice and that's working, so we'd have to arrange another visit! During their latest visit (while I was out) they disconnected my filtered master faceplate (which is technically better than theirs), fed the unfiltered signal on to the first slave, fitted a new master there and fed the filtered signal back to the location of the old master - because their guy didn't understand the (very simple) connections on our faceplate and thought it was connected wrong. I showed him the installation instructions, but he refused to spend more time putting it back as it should have been - the fault turned out to be at the exchange!

Due to the copper problems, I have been thinking of moving to Virgin, but am holding off, because during working from home, the extra load seems to be causing repeated failures for Virgin. Also, they cannot offer static IP addresses to non-business connections and using a Dynamic DNS service doesn't work properly with our domain provider and prevents me connecting from work as they block dynamic services.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 26, 2020, 08:33:18 PM
This all smacks of an old couple recently interviewed on the TV who knocked everyone else's broadband out at the same time every morning. Seems they had an old telly and turned it on at 07.00 each day to watch Breakfast telly. I believe it was a village in Wales and the other residents have clubbed together to get them a new telly.
However..............there is a suspicion it is an Openreach problem as it still happened when they were on hols for a week and the new telly had not been bought then :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on September 26, 2020, 08:49:42 PM
That story Mick @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) has expanded, Piers Morgan has bought the couple a new Tv. The fault is still there openreach was mistaken the fault was not caused by their tv afterall.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on September 26, 2020, 10:23:11 PM
The common denominator across most problems is open reach, only time i've had connection issues was down to faulty infrastructure,internet would drop out if the phone rang or it was raining.4 attempts later they managed to trace the fault to the cable from my flat to the cabinet,but managed to blow my modem in the process.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on September 26, 2020, 11:22:21 PM
Quote from: themadhippy on September 26, 2020, 10:23:11 PM
The common denominator across most problems is open reach, only time i've had connection issues was down to faulty infrastructure,internet would drop out if the phone rang or it was raining.4 attempts later they managed to trace the fault to the cable from my flat to the cabinet,but managed to blow my modem in the process.

Does not surprise me in the least.

Mrs Skyline used to work for a small firm who was sub-contracted by the aforementioned Beardy-Man Broadband to install fibre / non-fibre gubbins to properties.

The list of things that could have a negative impact on its performance if the infrastructure is less than perfect reads like a bad joke about British Rail...wrong leaves, wrong temperature etc etc

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on September 27, 2020, 01:26:44 AM
We recently had a problem with our landline phones not ringing. Openreach sent someone out, who (while I was not there) removed our filtered faceplate from the master socket, linked the connections to send the unfiltered signal to the first slave socket, replaced that with a filtered master socket and fed the filtered signal back to the connections at the master socket - all because he did not know the make of faceplate, did not understand the connections and thought that it was incorrect. Arriving home, I showed him the manufacturers datasheet for our faceplate and that the original connections were correct, but he refused to spend the time to put it back correctly. The fault was eventually traced to the exchange.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 27, 2020, 09:09:19 AM
Quote from: lil chris on September 26, 2020, 08:49:42 PM
That story Mick @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) has expanded, Piers Morgan has bought the couple a new Tv. The fault is still there openreach was mistaken the fault was not caused by their tv afterall.

@lil chris (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1784)
Good to see Pierced Organ wasting his money, Chris. At least something good came out of it then :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on September 27, 2020, 07:27:27 PM
We're waiting for open reach Now..
You may wonder how I'm sending this.. It is over a land line.. But the line that's broken goes over our garden through between a big oak trees branches...

Or at least it did until several heathy branches broke off in the storm. One was over 18inches in diameter pining the mains cable down,  and snapping the phone cable to next door.
We await a visit by an assessor who will check the line for safety,  and then organise it's repair.  Quite what they are worried about safety wise with a 50Volt signal. I'm not too sure.
Meanwhile UK power network men have spent 2hours clearing the branches and the mains cable is back where it should be.
As an aside we've lost 6 roof tiles from the leading edge of the roof.  That's also taken the guttering from the front of the house.. The biggest problem will be matching the ancient tiles...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on September 27, 2020, 07:43:31 PM
My internet is via a wi-fi modem from Three. On both Wednesday and Thursday of last week, the internet went off from about 10am to 3pm, trouble is, my mobile 'phone went off as well. I am with Tesco mobile for the 'phone and Tesco use o2 as their carrier, so why should a fault on one affect the other?  ???. Today, at about 3pm, the internet went off again - so did my mobile  >:(. So I'm thinking, maybe the 'phone is using the wi-fi from Three. I don't know exactly how these things connect with each other, so I spent an hour altering all sorts of connections on the 'phone, without result. A short time later, the 'phone lets me connect to the internet, so I searched for a problem with Three and found that there were over 2000 mentions of no service this afternoon from Three and it looks like it was a national outage. Anyway, it is now back up and running, albeit a bit patchy and slow, but can any of you people in the know explain why the internet on the mobile 'phone, provided by one company can be affected by an outage on another companies system, or is it (too much of) a coincidence?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on September 27, 2020, 07:57:02 PM
unless things have changed since 2014 three own O2  in eire
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on September 27, 2020, 08:01:37 PM
Oh  :censored:, we're doomed then!  :). Thanks for that bit of information @themadhippy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4863)   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on September 27, 2020, 08:11:44 PM
Dont worry its only going to get worse,all 4 operators have agreed to share there  toys,especially in rural areas. to  speed up the  deployment of new technology.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on September 27, 2020, 08:24:47 PM
It would help if they got the old technology sorted out. We had the land line taken out a couple of years ago, partly because of the number of times it 'broke', (it was surprising how often the engineer would come along after a reported break in the line and tell me that the fault was because somebody had cut through the wire whilst trimming the hedges!). Another reason was because an engineer, who had called to survey the house with a view to installing broadband just laughed at me, saying I had no chance!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on September 28, 2020, 11:09:12 AM
We had something similar when a farmer cut a new entrance to a field and broke the telephone cable buried just 6 inches under the verge...

We were told we had no chance of getting broadband as we were over 5 miles from the exchange.. Then they dug a hole in the road for 4 of those 5 miles and put a repeater box in the next village, and a mode point about half a mile away..
Now we get 27Mbs :claphappy: only 40K before..

never give up!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on September 28, 2020, 11:24:34 AM
Quote from: The Q on September 28, 2020, 11:09:12 AM

never give up!!

I do not think I will see it in my lifetime  :no:. We are talking rural Ireland here! My house is 12 miles from the nearest exchange, my 'drive', (read track across a farmers field, although we shared the cost of having in covered in tar a few years ago  :)), is a quarter of mile to the lane, which is single track. We then have another quarter of a mile one way to one road and a mile and a quarter the other way to a road and those roads are only just wide enough for two cars to pass in parts. Mind you, I do live in a very rural but beautiful part of Ireland, so I can't have everything.  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 14, 2020, 12:31:09 PM
Unbelieveable scenes of people partying in Liverpool last night. They either think it can't happen to them or maybe the end of the world is nigh. Either way - totally moronic and they do their city no favours :veryangry2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on October 14, 2020, 01:16:31 PM
I have absolutely no sympathy for them whatsoever. They need to be reminded that it is events like this which have caused the lockdown in the first place. I doubt they will listen/care/understand (detlete as appropriate) though unless we send in the army.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 14, 2020, 01:30:15 PM
I know I have said this before but I will say it again - I realise that I am over simplifying things, but there should be a total lock down, (with a few exceptions), and the rules should be mandatory, backed up by tough Policing, using the Army where necessary.  Advice means nothing if people take no heed.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on October 14, 2020, 01:37:39 PM
I 100% agree. I'm sure Boris hinted at using the army several weeks ago and I believe that now is the time to do so somewhere like Liverpoo if they don't behave. This will also act as a warning to other areas as to what will happen if they don't put their sensible heads on. The other option of course is water cannon, who wants to be hit with that on a cold October, November, December evening?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on October 14, 2020, 01:39:02 PM
I feel sorry for all the folk in Liverpool that have been following the guidelines but now find themselves in tier 3 because of these morons out partying!
Friends of mine were unhappy/sad last month when their daughter set off for university in Newcastle but were livid when all they saw were photos of her on social media out partying every day and night in different halls of residence as there were no face to face lectures which was quickly followed by covid making a rapid round of the university. To make matters worse one of the daughters friends travelled up there from Eastbourne to visit her and stayed in her room despite knowing she had tested positive. She then proceeded to come home and go to work at Tesco's. A quick call from my friend to Tesco's got her sent home immediately.
It does appear a fair few of the younger generation just don't care.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on October 14, 2020, 02:54:41 PM
Quote from: thebrighton on October 14, 2020, 01:39:02 PM
It does appear a fair few of the younger generation just don't care.

Judging by the news footage over the last month or so it is certainly a rather large number who seem hell-bent on hedonism and to hell  with masks and common sense. Whether it's 'a few' is hard to judge, but they are certainly a loud and prominent lot.

A week or so ago I saw a headline that was a member of the younger generation exhorting us not to blame the young. With scenes like last night all too frequently seen, it is hard not to.

And yesterday during a news broadcast, a journalist out on the streets talking about the effects of Covid restrictions on society said something like "Are we sacrificing the young to protect the old?" I couldn't believe my ears. Maybe I heard his comment slightly out of context, but I don't think so.

Okay, before I get too political/incendiary or just plain mad, I'll find a corner to curl up in (now known as isolating or shielding) so these dear young souls can go on enjoying their lives.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Yet_Another on October 14, 2020, 10:49:21 PM
Just for a bit of balance: with the puritan's charter running roughshod over everyone's lives, I have every sympathy for those people who are looking at many further months of extremely dull lockdown and felt the need for a blowout.

Those of us who remember watching the smoke over Liverpool 8 and Moss Side & Hulme in the eighties, and the more recent riots this century might be a little more circumspect in suggesting the deployment of force in our inner cities.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 15, 2020, 09:18:04 AM
There are some, (well at least one), member(s) of this forum who not only remember the riots of the 80's, but were actually employed to try and stop them. I have dodged a few missiles and petrol bombs in my time and wished there was an armoured troop carrier down the road.

One definition of 'circumspect' is "wary and unwilling to take risks".
One definition of 'riot' is "a violent disturbance of the peace by a crowd".

For a riot to happen, there is a need for a group of people who are unhappy about something. You then add an 'agitator' to stir up the group and you end up with a riot. Take away the group of people or the 'agitator' and there is no riot.  I can understand the 'powers that be' being circumspect, but we are in a situation that is affecting millions of people and killing thousands.  I would much rather be told that I must stay in my home for two or three weeks and have a good chance of surviving and that if I don't, I stand a good chance of being arrested, or dying, than be told that measures can not be put in place to protect me, because some people might get upset, or it will cost a lot of money.

Incidentally, the measures currently in place in Ireland are, broadly speaking, in line with the ones in the UK. The results of a poll published yesterday reveal that 61% of the population of Ireland believe that the Government are not doing enough.

However, I think this could be described as being a bit political, so I will shut up and isolate myself as much as I can.  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 15, 2020, 10:13:33 AM
Quote from: Yet_Another on October 14, 2020, 10:49:21 PM
Just for a bit of balance: with the puritan's charter running roughshod over everyone's lives

Puritans. I remember them. That's what we need right now - another Oliver Cromwell. He wouldn't faff about in a namby pamby way. I'd just love to know his plans for the anti mask bozos who gather in their 1000s :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 15, 2020, 10:59:25 AM
unfortunately, we are dealing with at least a couple of generations that have been brought up with 'rights' rather than responsibilities.

if I'm naughty you can't smack me, I have rights, etc

those of us who were brought up in an age when you learnt discipline, self discipline, and responsibility were much luckier, IMHO.

you did something wrong, you got caught, you got punished.

lines were drawn, you crossed them at your own risk.

nowadays, with every one having 'rights' it seem almost impossible to enforce rules if people don't want to obey them.

no doubt, some would argue it's progress, I'd say anarchy.

but then I'm a grumpy old git.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 15, 2020, 11:04:14 AM
Quote from: class37025 on October 15, 2020, 10:59:25 AM
but then I'm a grumpy old git.

Seems that there are a few of us.  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on October 15, 2020, 11:04:35 AM
You may well be a grumpy old git...

...but you're correct.

:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 15, 2020, 11:15:40 AM
Quote from: class37025 on October 15, 2020, 10:59:25 AM
unfortunately, we are dealing with at least a couple of generations that have been brought up with 'rights' rather than responsibilities.

if I'm naughty you can't smack me, I have rights, etc

those of us who were brought up in an age when you learnt discipline, self discipline, and responsibility were much luckier, IMHO.

you did something wrong, you got caught, you got punished.

lines were drawn, you crossed them at your own risk.

nowadays, with every one having 'rights' it seem almost impossible to enforce rules if people don't want to obey them.

no doubt, some would argue it's progress, I'd say anarchy.

but then I'm a grumpy old git.

Ok going to take the bait on that as a member of, say, two generations back.

I know my rights: I have the right to a fair trial and not get shot if I decide to join a march for a cause I believe in. The fact that no cause has stirred me to do so is by the by.

I have been privileged to have teachers that many would regard as "old school", so I certainly know where the line is.

I loath generalisations of generations or any other group of people.

So I won't be generalist and accuse any OLDER generation of messing up the environment or destroying markets so as to make home ownership an increasingly unrealistic dream for most.

Because I don't like that sort of thing I won't do it  :telloff:

Apologise if I am skirting the political rule....

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on October 15, 2020, 11:40:45 AM
What saddens me is the violence expressed by the "bring back the birch" brigade.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 15, 2020, 12:08:08 PM
some people you can't reason with,

they just ignore advice or explanations

so, do you let them continue in their own way

or teach the sods a lesson ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on October 15, 2020, 12:13:04 PM
Moderators.

We complain when they intervene too often but they are never there when you need them  :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on October 15, 2020, 12:13:42 PM
Quote from: joe cassidy on October 15, 2020, 11:40:45 AM
What saddens me is the violence expressed by the "bring back the birch" brigade.
My grandfather was a prison warder back in the 1920s, one of his duties was to administer the birch, he said "nobody came back for seconds"  which suggests to me that it was an effective deterrent to further antisocial behaviour, which can not be said of present day penalties.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on October 15, 2020, 12:19:30 PM
Capital punishment is also an "effective deterrent to further antisocial behaviour" and "nobody came back for seconds".

Moderator, moderator ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 15, 2020, 12:19:50 PM
do I detect a call for selective censorship,

ie I don't like the views expressed, so delete them ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 15, 2020, 12:22:52 PM
Quote from: class37025 on October 15, 2020, 12:19:50 PM
do I detect a call for selective censorship,

ie I don't like the views expressed, so delete them ?

Would that be a "right" to express your view, through the "right" of freedom of speech?

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 15, 2020, 12:32:18 PM
Quote from: joe cassidy on October 15, 2020, 12:19:30 PM
Capital punishment is also an "effective deterrent to further antisocial behaviour" and "nobody came back for seconds".

Moderator, moderator ?

They are not going to hear you. They are all self isolating, wearing masks and drowning in hand sanitiser. Or they are out on a march demanding to know why they have to wear masks whilst using hand sanitiser, (wondering where the Army is).   ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 15, 2020, 12:34:39 PM
 :laughabovepost:

A well timed piece of humour to lighten the mood

Good on you sir  :thumbsup:

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on October 15, 2020, 12:39:35 PM
As we speak, at least 2 of them are/should be sleeping
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 15, 2020, 12:41:10 PM
Quote from: joe cassidy on October 15, 2020, 12:13:04 PM
Moderators.

We complain when they intervene too often but they are never there when you need them  :(

If you want to complain to the Mods then use the 'Report to Moderator' button found in each post. The Mods will then discuss it between them and take any action necessary
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 15, 2020, 12:43:51 PM
Quote from: joe cassidy on October 15, 2020, 12:39:35 PM
As we speak, at least 2 of them are/should be sleeping

Should be, but they are having a meeting, (2 metres apart), deciding what to do about this thread.  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on October 15, 2020, 01:31:37 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on October 15, 2020, 12:41:10 PM
Quote from: joe cassidy on October 15, 2020, 12:13:04 PM
Moderators.

We complain when they intervene too often but they are never there when you need them  :(

If you want to complain to the Mods then use the 'Report to Moderator' button found in each post. The Mods will then discuss it between them and take any action necessary

I've complained as you suggest Mick.

Best regards,


Joe
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on October 15, 2020, 01:34:47 PM
QuoteRights
I remember them ,over the last 40 or so years they've been getting less and less
Quotefreedom of speech?
see above.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on October 15, 2020, 03:46:04 PM
Ok it seems the more mature members are most vocal in the calls for further covid restrictions,may i ask why? Looking at the data the average  age of death from covid is 82.4 years,before covid the average life expectancy was 81.16, are you all just scared of living longer?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on October 15, 2020, 03:57:14 PM
I've paid loads towards my government pension and I want to see some of it back  ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: javlinfaw7 on October 15, 2020, 04:06:40 PM
The thing not mentioned is Long Covid which is leaving  younger people with serious long term heath problems
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 15, 2020, 04:18:40 PM
We are informed those over 60 and/or BAME are most likely to die from this virus. Is it therefore any wonder those in that group would like some protection from the idiots who flout restrictions and advice? I don't give a damn if the transgressor is a youth or an OAP, if they can't abide by the rules then someone has to make them do so and by whatever works - preferably massive fines to my mind. I'm not proposing a beating, imprisonment (why inflict the poor crims with these people) or capital punishment, but something has to be done and the police don't have the man/woman power
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on October 15, 2020, 04:53:34 PM
Quote, if they can't abide by the rules then someone has to make them do so
so youve never broke a rule ever?
QuoteI've paid loads towards my government pension and I want to see some of it back
with covid doing the rounds the figures suggest youll get 1.24 years more pension than without.
Quoteleaving  younger people with serious long term heath problems
biggest killer apart from suicide and poisoning in the 20-34 year old is transport related,so why not ban all transport for that age group
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on October 15, 2020, 04:59:09 PM
I see no need for deliberately inflammatory and antagonizing posts. You've made it patently clear you disagree already. This is just showing a complete lack of respect for other forum users situations.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Yet_Another on October 15, 2020, 05:54:35 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on October 15, 2020, 04:59:09 PM
I see no need for deliberately inflammatory and antagonizing posts. You've made it patently clear you disagree already. This is just showing a complete lack of respect for other forum users situations.
Who's this directed at? There's plenty of inflamation and antagonisation, both deliberate and unthinking, on all sides of this issue.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 15, 2020, 05:59:58 PM
Quote from: Yet_Another on October 15, 2020, 05:54:35 PM
There's plenty of inflamation and antagonisation

Tell me about it, my arthritic thumbs have been playing up summat shocking today.  ;)

C'mon gents, let's keep things nice, else them Mods are going to poop at our party.  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on October 15, 2020, 06:07:03 PM
Quote from: Yet_Another on October 15, 2020, 05:54:35 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on October 15, 2020, 04:59:09 PM
I see no need for deliberately inflammatory and antagonizing posts. You've made it patently clear you disagree already. This is just showing a complete lack of respect for other forum users situations.
Who's this directed at? There's plenty of inflamation and antagonisation, both deliberate and unthinking, on all sides of this issue.

If the cap fits...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on October 15, 2020, 08:20:40 PM
Erm, nope

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/navyphotos.togetherweserved.com/1890114_med.jpg)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on October 15, 2020, 08:51:06 PM
Re the young and Long Covid.

I am 68. I have asthma and a weak immune system. I want people to take the pandemic more seriously because I do not want to die.

One of the reasons I don't want to die is because I have a lot of living to catch up on.

When I was at University in my early twenties I had a virus infection that stayed active in my blood tests for over three months. It took me 18 months to fully recover as I suffered very, very badly with what was called Post-Viral Fatigue (later termed, for obvious reasons, Chronic Fatigue).

It was hell, with poor memory and concentration issues, muscle weakness and poor coordination, depression, acute anxiety, and a feeling remarkably similar to having a very long bout of Influenza. This condition would fluctuate wildly throughout the 18 months it affected me, with some days and weeks being better not remembered.

Fourteen years later I had a two week bout of the Flu. Two weeks after that I had another bout of the Flu. Post-viral Fatigue set in once more and it was worse in effect than before, there being long periods when I CAN'T remember what was happening to me. Many days would pass where I was awake for less than 7 hours. It was a dreadful time in my life and without the superb support that I received from my wife I have no doubt that I would have probably have ended my own life.

You may think this extreme or a weakness on my part, but let me just add that I did not recover from this Chronic Fatigue for a long long time.

It started in November 1990. Though it remains with me to some degree even today, so I can never say I am truly rid of it, it was not until the Autumn of 2016 that I was over it's worst effects.

That's twenty five and a half years of highly variable and unpredictable debilitating illness.

Now when I hear and read about Long Covid I know just what they are referring to. The Covid virus gives the added symptom of lung-centred issues, but ALL the other symptoms I am seeing attributed to Long Covid are very familiar to me.

So yes, I am an old person with all the fears of dying that any rational person would possess, and a desire to avoid contracting a killer illness. But I am also one that lost a great portion of his life to the effects of a virus, and would simply say to those, both young and old who seem, without experience or sense, to dismiss or underestimate the Covid-19 virus: the evidence is out there that this virus can seriously change or end your life. It is no respecter of your health, your fitness, your feelings, or your beliefs.

You can ignore this if you like. After all, it's your life. Isn't it?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 15, 2020, 09:06:30 PM
Well, what does one say after reading that? I am just glad that the worst seems to be behind you Mike.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NinOz on October 15, 2020, 10:08:27 PM
Quote from: themadhippy on October 15, 2020, 04:53:34 PM
Quote, if they can't abide by the rules then someone has to make them do so
so youve never broke a rule ever?
I have broken many rules in my life but I can't remember doing so when it could possibly cost dozens, if not thousands, of people their lives.
Perhaps, I may be one of the small percentage of the population who carry a burden of responsibility for their actions. ;)

I am angry with the whole Covid event as it just reinforces how shallow and selfish some people are; railing against wearing a piece of cloth on their face in limited circumstances.   Imagine a surgeon with the same sense of entitlement. :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NinOz on October 15, 2020, 10:15:03 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on October 15, 2020, 08:20:40 PM
Erm, nope

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/navyphotos.togetherweserved.com/1890114_med.jpg)

I would like to point out that only aluminium foil helps protect against Covid infection not an ill-fitting cloth cap which is known only to protect against drop bear attack in a eucalypt forest.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on October 16, 2020, 09:16:40 AM
An addendum to my last post here yesterday.

A BBC News item caught my attention this morning, which I link to below, which indicates that Long Covid, or ongoing Covid, has a greater range of symptoms that affect many more organs of the body than has been my lot.

QuoteBased on interviews with 14 members of a long-Covid support group on Facebook and the most recent published research, the review found recurring symptoms affecting everything from breathing, the brain, the heart and cardiovascular system to the kidneys, the gut, the liver and the skin.
These symptoms may be due to four different syndromes:
permanent organ damage to the lungs and heart
post-intensive-care syndrome
post-viral fatigue syndrome
continuing Covid-19 symptoms
Some of those affected have had a long stay in hospital with severe Covid-19 - but others, who have had a mild infection, have never even been tested or diagnosed.

In short, it is potentially far worse than the condition that plagued my life for so many years, and continues in some ways today.

My anger - nay, raging fury - towards those who continue to ignore common sense and treat this pandemic with disdain or even boredom, is now all the more acute.

And as for the virus - it has absolutely no feelings on the matter whatsoever. It just wants to spread its own gospel, which is far more powerful than any words anybody here can say.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54540544 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54540544)

Whatever your feelings are, stay safe, stay healthy, and look after those who love you - and hopefully everyone else who may not.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on October 16, 2020, 09:39:04 AM
As a mod, I try to distance myself from covid discussions, but at this point, I will say that my opinion is that I think it's here to stay. It ain't going away in a hurry.  :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 16, 2020, 10:15:53 AM
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/100/264-161020101345-1006122083.jpeg)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on October 16, 2020, 11:30:11 AM
Last night I asked my sister what effect covid has had on the TV soaps in the UK.

She told me that Eastenders is back after a 3 month break, and the cast are social distancing but not wearing masks.

Is it the same in Wetherfield (she doesn't watch Coro') ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on October 16, 2020, 12:11:52 PM
Wetherfield is in Greater Manchester, so Tier 3.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on October 16, 2020, 12:51:55 PM
I think on Coronation street they are wearing masks some of the time, but mostly just distancing - masks probably make it too hard to make out the sound, especially for those with impaired hearing. I read that Eastenders is using clear screens for filming, so that people who are supposed to be from the same household can be seen close together or even appear to be touching.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 16, 2020, 09:43:18 PM
Well, that's my life altered for the worse for a while. Lancashire is now lumped into Tier 3 restrictions which means family goes by the board for the duration. At least I can still get to the gym.
:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on October 17, 2020, 12:58:16 AM
Are you sure you meant gym and not Jim?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 17, 2020, 09:54:04 AM
Maybe it was a gymslip
(please don't tell me you have one of those in your wardrobe :worried:)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on October 17, 2020, 09:57:52 AM
Underneath Supergirl's skirt  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on October 17, 2020, 11:48:18 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on October 17, 2020, 09:54:04 AM
Maybe it was a gymslip
(please don't tell me you have one of those in your wardrobe :worried:)

Well actually..............

Quote from: Bealman on October 17, 2020, 09:57:52 AM
Underneath Supergirl's skirt  ;)

Just a plain blue leotard under there George, sorry to disappoint  :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 17, 2020, 12:02:59 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on October 16, 2020, 09:43:18 PM
Well, that's my life altered for the worse for a while. Lancashire is now lumped into Tier 3 restrictions which means family goes by the board for the duration. At least I can still get to the gym.
:(

I think I can get round this one with my Mother as, to quote from the gov.uk website this morning:-

Tier 3
Meeting with family and friends
You must not meet socially with friends and family indoors in any setting unless they are part of your household or support bubble.
A support bubble is where a household with one adult joins with another household. Households in that support bubble can still visit each other, stay overnight and visit public places together


However, I'll not twist Mum's arm to do anything that worries her so the decision will be hers.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on October 17, 2020, 12:49:25 PM
Exactly. It's all about respecting other people. If more of that had happened we wouldn't be in this flamin' mess.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on October 17, 2020, 01:03:15 PM
 :censored:  :poop:  DPD! Need I say more?!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: weave on October 17, 2020, 01:27:31 PM
You do if it's not the delivery company. I presumed you meant them but thought I'd check on all this 'new speak' stuff as I'm completely out of touch.

Urban Dictionary .. DPD..... interesting  :D

Cheers, weave  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on October 17, 2020, 01:31:35 PM
Well the  :poop: part works for both  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on October 17, 2020, 02:37:00 PM
Yes, I meant Disastrous Parcel Deliveries. The paper at work is so cheap as to very effectively disuade one from applying the Urban Dictionary definition. :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: weave on October 17, 2020, 05:19:23 PM
 You lost me there for a moment so I looked it up again. I get your urban dictionary meaning now and Trainfish's reply to my reply. The one I first saw is different but please don't try and look it up as I might get in trouble for giving Trainfish a 'funny' after his post  :worried:.

Anyway, moving on.......

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on October 20, 2020, 09:23:39 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-54612122 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-54612122)

Don't let them reproduce :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on October 20, 2020, 09:26:15 AM
Can't open the link Steve. @tutenkhamunsleeping (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1490)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on October 20, 2020, 09:36:25 AM
Quote from: tutenkhamunsleeping on October 20, 2020, 09:23:39 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-54612122 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-54612122)

Don't let them reproduce :doh:
Well at least they weren't consummating the union...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 20, 2020, 10:01:24 AM
If she'd been hit by a class 47 would she have been considered to be up the Duff?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 20, 2020, 10:48:00 AM
I have no words.

Just

:jawdropping: :headbutt:

Pre-internet this level of stupidity wouldn't be shared, maybe I miss the blissful ignorance.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 20, 2020, 11:49:27 AM
You didn't really expect intelligent and erudite conversation, did you? :no:
This is the t'interweb after all.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 20, 2020, 12:23:41 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on October 20, 2020, 11:49:27 AM
You didn't really expect intelligent and erudite conversation, did you? :no:
This is the t'interweb after all.

True.

But I hoped not to find out people think taking wedding photos on Railway Lines are a good idea....

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on October 20, 2020, 12:27:00 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on October 20, 2020, 11:49:27 AM
You didn't really expect intelligent and erudite conversation, did you? :no:
This is the t'interweb after all.

Is erudite better than superglue?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on October 20, 2020, 12:30:37 PM
This seems to be a 'thing' if these Google search images are anything to go by:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?source=univ&tbm=isch&q=wedding+pictures+on+railroad+tracks&hl=en-gb&client=safari&fir=wAfnON0vAuf59M%252CaWZaed7qyUglvM%252C_%253BNCpGRdikCZ2iVM%252Cp_msrzqaT1l_lM%252C_%253BH2MM8NshS-CCUM%252CoiMrlDQgeD_EqM%252C_%253BXgGOvP92DfYjPM%252Cnqi4VkAu1CSz9M%252C_%253BP_VcIHTkX-VJ1M%252CPkeGovUD226XiM%252C_%253BNdWdjF-JkhFkwM%252CYJeXbIbQA1FzeM%252C_%253BW4_AeO_fZggTIM%252C8LNXI-brwSWBXM%252C_%253BI7pYx5hguPta5M%252CkIPDs3PcIWsAhM%252C_%253BEPBAPmfCxNzy0M%252CMxQF5B0Oo5aJaM%252C_%253Bn7gsrwurybRwCM%252CL73cZzKEDVDNDM%252C_%253BP0ICrCTJh4CfpM%252CJuUMWWcKgPzMSM%252C_%253BeqFexzDmpQuwiM%252C2GEyEHfTbE3w7M%252C_%253Bxrxv0mhQIqfimM%252CoclkM3CjDsm6kM%252C_%253BWMYQ7Xd2zhXwSM%252CePyFybfTh2XMgM%252C_%253BbZba90MVKJLd5M%252CMHjsywD0DYrQzM%252C_%257Cpre%2520wedding%253Bwedding%2520photographer%253Bengagement%2520session%253Bphoto%2520shoot%253Bengagement%2520shoots%253Bbride%253Bwedding%2520photoshoot%253Bcouples%253Bdream%2520wedding%253Bengagement%2520photos&usg=AI4_-kR7uj9aotdE0cBGohK0czjfSqzosQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjylv6tiMPsAhUPecAKHVFdDO0Q7Al6BAgNED0&biw=1024&bih=666 (https://www.google.co.uk/search?source=univ&tbm=isch&q=wedding+pictures+on+railroad+tracks&hl=en-gb&client=safari&fir=wAfnON0vAuf59M%252CaWZaed7qyUglvM%252C_%253BNCpGRdikCZ2iVM%252Cp_msrzqaT1l_lM%252C_%253BH2MM8NshS-CCUM%252CoiMrlDQgeD_EqM%252C_%253BXgGOvP92DfYjPM%252Cnqi4VkAu1CSz9M%252C_%253BP_VcIHTkX-VJ1M%252CPkeGovUD226XiM%252C_%253BNdWdjF-JkhFkwM%252CYJeXbIbQA1FzeM%252C_%253BW4_AeO_fZggTIM%252C8LNXI-brwSWBXM%252C_%253BI7pYx5hguPta5M%252CkIPDs3PcIWsAhM%252C_%253BEPBAPmfCxNzy0M%252CMxQF5B0Oo5aJaM%252C_%253Bn7gsrwurybRwCM%252CL73cZzKEDVDNDM%252C_%253BP0ICrCTJh4CfpM%252CJuUMWWcKgPzMSM%252C_%253BeqFexzDmpQuwiM%252C2GEyEHfTbE3w7M%252C_%253Bxrxv0mhQIqfimM%252CoclkM3CjDsm6kM%252C_%253BWMYQ7Xd2zhXwSM%252CePyFybfTh2XMgM%252C_%253BbZba90MVKJLd5M%252CMHjsywD0DYrQzM%252C_%257Cpre%2520wedding%253Bwedding%2520photographer%253Bengagement%2520session%253Bphoto%2520shoot%253Bengagement%2520shoots%253Bbride%253Bwedding%2520photoshoot%253Bcouples%253Bdream%2520wedding%253Bengagement%2520photos&usg=AI4_-kR7uj9aotdE0cBGohK0czjfSqzosQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjylv6tiMPsAhUPecAKHVFdDO0Q7Al6BAgNED0&biw=1024&bih=666)

Edit: blimey, that's a long webpage link :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on October 20, 2020, 12:34:06 PM
Here (https://www.google.co.uk/search?source=univ&tbm=isch&q=wedding+pictures+on+railroad+tracks&hl=en-gb&client=safari&fir=wAfnON0vAuf59M%252CaWZaed7qyUglvM%252C_%253BNCpGRdikCZ2iVM%252Cp_msrzqaT1l_lM%252C_%253BH2MM8NshS-CCUM%252CoiMrlDQgeD_EqM%252C_%253BXgGOvP92DfYjPM%252Cnqi4VkAu1CSz9M%252C_%253BP_VcIHTkX-VJ1M%252CPkeGovUD226XiM%252C_%253BNdWdjF-JkhFkwM%252CYJeXbIbQA1FzeM%252C_%253BW4_AeO_fZggTIM%252C8LNXI-brwSWBXM%252C_%253BI7pYx5hguPta5M%252CkIPDs3PcIWsAhM%252C_%253BEPBAPmfCxNzy0M%252CMxQF5B0Oo5aJaM%252C_%253Bn7gsrwurybRwCM%252CL73cZzKEDVDNDM%252C_%253BP0ICrCTJh4CfpM%252CJuUMWWcKgPzMSM%252C_%253BeqFexzDmpQuwiM%252C2GEyEHfTbE3w7M%252C_%253Bxrxv0mhQIqfimM%252CoclkM3CjDsm6kM%252C_%253BWMYQ7Xd2zhXwSM%252CePyFybfTh2XMgM%252C_%253BbZba90MVKJLd5M%252CMHjsywD0DYrQzM%252C_%257Cpre%2520wedding%253Bwedding%2520photographer%253Bengagement%2520session%253Bphoto%2520shoot%253Bengagement%2520shoots%253Bbride%253Bwedding%2520photoshoot%253Bcouples%253Bdream%2520wedding%253Bengagement%2520photos&usg=AI4_-kR7uj9aotdE0cBGohK0czjfSqzosQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjylv6tiMPsAhUPecAKHVFdDO0Q7Al6BAgNED0&biw=1024&bih=666) is the shortened version  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on October 20, 2020, 12:38:46 PM
I stopped a train once.............

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/33/56/f7/3356f7dca355abb3c99a21a7820226ee.jpg)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 20, 2020, 01:05:59 PM
Your costume fitted better then. You've let yourself go since that pic (yeah, I know - rude) :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on October 20, 2020, 01:53:51 PM
It's an age thing obviously  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: weave on October 20, 2020, 02:16:41 PM
I've never met you John but I think I can speak for all of us when I say 'you're beautiful inside'.


Except, obviously, for all those flagons of beer sloshing around  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on October 20, 2020, 02:25:42 PM
 :laughabovepost:

I've never been inside though!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 20, 2020, 02:32:01 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on October 20, 2020, 02:25:42 PM
:laughabovepost:

I've never been inside though!

Since when did this stop being "The Angry Thread" and become the "I feel slightly violated" thread?!

I have never felt the urge to say "Gentleman, back on topic please" more

:smiley-laughing: ;D :D

;)

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on October 20, 2020, 02:43:22 PM
To be fair I was angry @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)  for saying I'd let myself go and also @weave (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=735) for thinking I'd been inside!

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a8/3e/95/a83e95cb9d5dc21ff05447f4691514d6.png)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on October 20, 2020, 02:56:37 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on October 20, 2020, 12:34:06 PM
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All those people trying for the Guinness Book of Records 'Shortest duration of Marriage' category...  :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on October 30, 2020, 12:22:18 PM
On the BBC this morning.

A Swiss virologist working with Universities across Europe has just published a report confirming the current (autumn) spike in COVID19 is a completely different strain of the virus to the one in spring, which has almost completely died out.

The new strain originated in North East Spain and was first seen in a farming community in June, and has subsequently been spread around Europe by tourists.

So we are all now all suffering because of selfish people who just had to have a summer holiday.  :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 30, 2020, 12:37:49 PM
I have not heard the report as yet, but if it is correct, it just goes to show that, (and I know I have said this before), if people were confined to their homes for a period of maybe just two or three weeks, this virus could be eradicated.** I know I am over simplifying things and there has to be exceptions, but I, normally, only get out of my car once a week to do some shopping. (I have to use the car Monday to Friday to get Louisa to and from work). Surely it is better to be 'inconvenienced' for a short while so that we can all get back to some sort of normality, rather than some restrictions in some places, with less restrictions in other places? That, to me, just encourages people to move from one area to another.

** Maybe not eradicated, but at least controlled.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on October 30, 2020, 12:49:06 PM
Here's one source:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/30/coronavirus-strain-from-spain-accounts-for-most-uk-cases-study (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/30/coronavirus-strain-from-spain-accounts-for-most-uk-cases-study)

Greetings from Japan, still largely cut off from the outside world.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: javlinfaw7 on October 30, 2020, 12:58:49 PM
So the strain from Spain  come mainly on the plane.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 30, 2020, 04:17:48 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on October 30, 2020, 12:37:49 PM
I have not heard the report as yet, but if it is correct, it just goes to show that, (and I know I have said this before), if people were confined to their homes for a period of maybe just two or three weeks, this virus could be eradicated.** I know I am over simplifying things and there has to be exceptions, but I, normally, only get out of my car once a week to do some shopping. (I have to use the car Monday to Friday to get Louisa to and from work). Surely it is better to be 'inconvenienced' for a short while so that we can all get back to some sort of normality, rather than some restrictions in some places, with less restrictions in other places? That, to me, just encourages people to move from one area to another.

** Maybe not eradicated, but at least controlled.

Even though I'm slightly to the left of Genghis Khan I can't agree with that. There are parts of the UK with very low virus counts who should not be penalised on account of those in the highest tiers of restriction. That just isn't fair and, face it, there's no bottomless well of cash to prop up a wholesale lockdown again. Someone, somewhere in the future, has got to pay it all back
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on October 30, 2020, 04:29:20 PM
A casual observation

Easter skiing holidaymakers brought the first wave in from Italy (they traced this)

Summer holidaymakers brought the second wave in from the beaches of Spain

Spot the pattern!

Also the skiing holidaymakers (probably better healed) were dispersed thorough the country which was reflected in the virus spread, and the beach and booze package tours holidaymakers were substantially from the areas of higher population, reflected in the current distribution.

It is therefore safe to assume the third wave will be nationwide as a result of Christmas.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 30, 2020, 06:46:56 PM
@Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)
I appreciate what you are saying Mick, but what happens if one particular area has lock down imposed because of the prevalence of the virus and an adjoining area, which has a very low prevalence of the virus, has no lock down, how do you police it?  No country has the official manpower to seal off various areas and stop a person crossing from one area to another.  As you know, I live in the Republic of Ireland and we are supposed to stay within 5km of our home during the current lock down - which is nation wide, except for exceptions! During the last lock down earlier in the year, I went to Carrick-on-Shannon, (30km from home), to get the weekly shopping from Tesco, (I was not allowed to go to Asda in the north  :'(). I was stopped twice by the Gardai, (Police), on my return trip to home on one of my shopping trips and when I explained why I was out - no problem. But that was just one day, I never saw any other check points. To my way of thinking, different rules for different areas defeat the object of a lock down. This pandemic is costing every country a fortune, but when it is all over, the whole country, (whichever country we are talking about), will have to pay, not just the areas that have the strictest restrictions, so why not a short sharp lock down for all, instead of the piecemeal attitude that prevails now?

Okay, I have said my bit and I am only one voice, but I will shut up now.  ;).  As Sergeant Esterhaus used to say in Hill Street Blues, "Let's be careful out there".  ;)
:beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on October 30, 2020, 07:03:08 PM
South Korea does it by tracking mobile phones, don't have one, you are given one for the duration.  Their laws allows you to be tracked,  there is a vast fine if you don't have your phone with you at all times, and if you are suspected or have COVID19 you are geofenced to your house, and they comply.

Can you imaging your average UK stroppy git complying with that, never mind the fortunes that would be racked up by civil rights lawyers trying to break the rules and the rest.

Frankly our population deserves the rate of death their stupidity demands.

There is a Russian regional leader who suggested last weak that if someone was deliberately flaunting their regulations they should be helped along by being injected with COVID19 and then locked up. I can see that would have gone down well in Nottingham last night.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 30, 2020, 09:01:44 PM
Quote from: Snowwolflair on October 30, 2020, 07:03:08 PM

Frankly our population deserves the rate of death their stupidity demands.


A statement far too sweeping when the majority obey all the rules in the hope of getting the numbers down but the senseless minority are the ones so deserving of severe punishment (I won't go so far as to suggest death)

Quote from: dannyboy on October 30, 2020, 06:46:56 PM
@Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)
I appreciate what you are saying Mick, but what happens if one particular area has lock down imposed because of the prevalence of the virus and an adjoining area, which has a very low prevalence of the virus, has no lock down, how do you police it?

@dannyboy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4209)
I can only go by local experience, David, but think it would be seldom the case one county has high virus numbers and an adjoining area low numbers. For whatever reason West Yorkshire and East Lancashire have appallingly high numbers whereas my area, although not good, is not as bad. We are all lumped in Tier 3 but, for some strange reason, Lancashire gyms remain open (for now)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 30, 2020, 09:56:50 PM
County Leitrim, where I live, shares its border with Counties Sligo, Roscommon, Longford and Cavan, along with Northern Ireland. Leitrim has the lowest incidences of Covid-19, (0.38 per 100,000 population), whilst the other counties, apart from Cavan, all have an incidence rate which is greater than that of Leitrim. Approximately 25% of Leitrims border is with Cavan, which also borders Northern Ireland. Cavan has an incidence rate of 3.37.  :o. There are so many variables involved with how the virus works and moves amongst the population but one thing is certain, it knows no boundaries, (County or other  ;)).  Plus, another point in my favour, Leitrim is one of the least populated counties in Ireland, so, in theory, there is less chance of community transmission.  One other point - the age group showing the greatest number of cases is 15 to 24 year olds.  :hmmm:. Sorry about all those figures, as I said earlier, I will shut up now.  :)

Addit: I have my own theories Mick on why places like West Yorkshire, (my home county) and Lancashire have high incidence rates, but we won't go there ...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on October 30, 2020, 09:59:58 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on October 30, 2020, 09:56:50 PM
County Leitrim, where I live, shares its border with Counties Sligo, Roscommon, Longford and Cavan, along with Northern Ireland. Leitrim has the lowest incidences of Covid-19, (0.38 per 100,000 population), whilst the other counties, apart from Cavan, all have an incidence rate which is greater than that of Leitrim. Approximately 25% of Leitrims border is with Cavan, which also borders Northern Ireland. Cavan has an incidence rate of 3.37.  :o. There are so many variables involved with how the virus works and moves amongst the population but one thing is certain, it knows no boundaries, (County or other  ;)).  Plus, another point in my favour, Leitrim is one of the least populated counties in Ireland, so, in theory, there is less chance of community transmission.  One other point - the age group showing the greatest number of cases is 15 to 24 year olds.  :hmmm:. Sorry about all those figures, as I said earlier, I will shut up now.  :)

To get that spread I would be looking for a man with a bicycle.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 30, 2020, 10:03:08 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on October 30, 2020, 09:56:50 PM
  One other point - the age group showing the greatest number of cases is 15 to 24 year olds. 

Problem is they're highly unlikely to die of it but highly likely to pass it on to someone who will.
Not that they care.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on October 30, 2020, 10:15:15 PM
The risk of a selective lockdown based on age or regional citeria is that the government will be blamed if it fails.

That is why the French gov has installed a nationwide lockdown for 4 weeks starting today.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Flange Squeal on October 30, 2020, 10:26:46 PM
The front page of tomorrow's Times news paper is suggesting a national lockdown could be announced by Boris on wednesday.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NinOz on October 30, 2020, 11:07:06 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby
Even though I'm slightly to the left of Genghis Khan I can't agree with that.

.... but the senseless minority are the ones so deserving of severe punishment (I won't go so far as to suggest death)
These two statements are inconsistent. :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on October 30, 2020, 11:13:35 PM
We NEED a national lockdown NOW. The virus spreads through human to human contact. Limit the contact, slow the virus.

C'est la guerre.

It's not just about economics. It's not just about livelihoods. It's about life itself.

A month or more of lockdown could slow the spread and give science a greater chance to combat this pestilence. We do not want to be in a position where, a short few weeks or months from now, we find ourselves thinking, or even saying what we woulda, shoulda, coulda done at the end of October. Rather like what many scientists are currently saying what we should have done weeks or months ago.

Of course we could do nothing new, keep faffing about and hope it all just goes away and just 'get back to normal'. Cos that's a great idea, isn't it. But then what we are experiencing today IS the new normal. We can't go back. Time - and the virus - doesn't work that way.

By tomorrow night over a million people in the UK will have been infected - and that's just the reported/recorded cases. Worldwide the figure will exceed FORTY FIVE MILLION, with around ONE MILLION TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DEATHS, and that's in just over eight months.

After a year? Two years? Will you or yours be amongst the afflicted or the dead?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on October 30, 2020, 11:25:49 PM
Quote from: daffy on October 30, 2020, 11:13:35 PM
We NEED a national lockdown NOW. The virus spreads through human to human contact. Limit the contact, slow the virus.

C'est la guerre.

It's not just about economics. It's not just about livelihoods. It's about life itself.

A month or more of lockdown could slow the spread and give science a greater chance to combat this pestilence. We do not want to be in a position where, a short few weeks or months from now, we find ourselves thinking, or even saying what we woulda, shoulda, coulda done at the end of October. Rather like what many scientists are currently saying what we should have done weeks or months ago.

Of course we could do nothing new, keep faffing about and hope it all just goes away and just 'get back to normal'. Cos that's a great idea, isn't it. But then what we are experiencing today IS the new normal. We can't go back. Time - and the virus - doesn't work that way.

By tomorrow night over a million people in the UK will have been infected - and that's just the reported/recorded cases. Worldwide the figure will exceed FORTY FIVE MILLION, with around ONE MILLION TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DEATHS, and that's in just over eight months.

After a year? Two years? Will you or yours be amongst the afflicted or the dead?

I agree but he British public will largely ignore it so it will be useless, and we don't have enough police to enforce it.

We are back to my comments on compliance above.  In France to go out of your front door even to walk your dog you must download a form, print it and fill it in.  If you are out and you don't have it you can be arrested.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on October 30, 2020, 11:40:05 PM
QuoteIn France to go out of your front door even to walk your dog you must download a form, print it and fill it in
hope theres an exemption for printer spares or you culd be in a catch22 situation,
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on October 30, 2020, 11:56:21 PM
I was parked in the viewing area car park just outside the fence around RAF Coningsby this afternoon, eating my lunch of Fish'n'Chips from the shop in the nearby village. A double yellow line marked both sides of the road, and signs indicated further the no waiting restriction on road or verge.

I've been there many times, on quiet days, on busy days, and even on Air Display days.

Nobody parks on the road or verge. The British public know how to obey that law in that locale.

Why? Because it is strongly enforced. They risk fines, clamping, being towed, fees. etc.

And that is what is lacking in the handling of this pandemic - enforcement of the restrictions and limitations imposed in a consistent and widespread manner, with fines, not warnings, with laws, not advices, and a heavy hand to show the British public that this is a serious matter.

Hit them where it hurts. In the pocket.

They probably fear that more than the virus, so use it against them.

And if that doesn't work, offer Green Shield Stamps or a free plastic whotsit to all who stick to the rules.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Graham on October 31, 2020, 12:53:00 AM
Quote from: daffy on October 30, 2020, 11:56:21 PM
And that is what is lacking in the handling of this pandemic - enforcement of the restrictions and limitations imposed in a consistent and widespread manner, with fines, not warnings, with laws, not advices, and a heavy hand to show the British public that this is a serious matter.

Hit them where it hurts. In the pocket.

They probably fear that more than the virus, so use it against them.

That seemed to work here in Victoria, mind you we had almost 15 weeks of total lockdown.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on October 31, 2020, 12:57:04 AM
QuoteAnd that is what is lacking in the handling of this pandemic - enforcement of the restrictions and limitations imposed in a consistent and widespread manner
And here lies the problem,constancy.Nip into the shop to buy a paper without a mask  thats ok stan,drive half way across the country for an eye test,no problem dom,use public transport  to get to and from work with symptoms and awaiting a test result? go for it margret.The list could go on and on,meanwhile legally wait for a train  legally refuse to give your details to the police and maintain your right to silence in court  and we'll  drag you through the courts ,  fine you 660 quid and hope no one finds out
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on October 31, 2020, 08:53:25 AM
You can write the equivalent of the form by hand, and there is also an electronic version for cell phones.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 31, 2020, 09:20:51 AM
Quote from: themadhippy on October 31, 2020, 12:57:04 AM
QuoteAnd that is what is lacking in the handling of this pandemic - enforcement of the restrictions and limitations imposed in a consistent and widespread manner
And here lies the problem,constancy.Nip into the shop to buy a paper without a mask  thats ok stan,drive half way across the country for an eye test,no problem dom,use public transport  to get to and from work with symptoms and awaiting a test result? go for it margret.The list could go on and on,meanwhile legally wait for a train  legally refuse to give your details to the police and maintain your right to silence in court  and we'll  drag you through the courts ,  fine you 660 quid and hope no one finds out

Using the feeble excuse of "they did it so I will" just puts you in the same group of ****wits and gets no one anywhere except further into the sediment. They did wrong, we all know they did wrong and they seem to have got away with it but let's keep politics out of this, difficult as it is.
More such posts will be removed
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Yet_Another on October 31, 2020, 02:02:18 PM
Frankly, given that this is the angry thread, I'd like to express my displeasure at the continued harping on about so-called wrong-doers, and finger-pointing by those who clearly have their own agenda.

As has been demonstrated across the globe, the response to the pandemic is divisive and in many places is political.

If discussion of it is not banned entirely in this place, can it at least be confined to its own thread, somewhere that the rest of us don't have to look?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on October 31, 2020, 02:31:59 PM
QuoteUsing the feeble excuse of "they did it so I will" just puts you in the same group of ****wits and gets no one anywhere except further into the sediment. They did wrong, we all know they did wrong and they seem to have got away with it but let's keep politics out of this, difficult as it is.
Nobby please go back and   read the very first line,to save you the bother here it is
QuoteAnd here lies the problem,constancy.
Until everyone,and i mean every single one is treated exactly the same in the eye  of the law there is no chance of the laws being followed,o if lord shitpot can meet his family for a "businesses lunch"in that posh restaurant  then that must mean i can meet my bird down the pub to discus the buisness were going to get up to later
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 02, 2020, 10:07:03 AM
Checked my e mail this morning to find Dapol Digest sent a note overnight to say there had been a post in the West Country/BoB thread. Logged in and was there one? Yeah, from 6 days ago from someone wondering, like the rest of us, if anything was happening. Top marks to Digest for speed of notifications. Has anyone actually found this site to be useful in any shape or form?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: port perran on November 04, 2020, 03:13:39 PM
I don't do angry so it's more annoyed frustration on my part.

However, I'd like to thank the kind soul who drilled such a neat hole in my car petrol tank overnight in order to steal £25 worth of fuel (much of which they managed to spill all over the road).
I'm now left with a hefty repair bill and a lot of inconvenience sorting things out.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr  >:(



Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 04, 2020, 03:20:14 PM
That's appalling, Martin. Is it a one off occurrence or have others been similarly done over?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: port perran on November 04, 2020, 03:26:43 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on November 04, 2020, 03:20:14 PM
That's appalling, Martin. Is it a one off occurrence or have others been similarly done over?
I've been asking around the village and so far, no one else seems to have been affected.
The police , likewise, have had no other reports it seems.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 04, 2020, 03:32:06 PM
That is a strange one. Seems to be a lot of trouble to steal some petrol. As most of it was "all over the road", I would be asking who you have fallen out with lately.  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on November 04, 2020, 03:43:31 PM
Quotea neat hole in my car petrol tank
is it a definite drill hole not say a hole for a sensor or vent bung that's dropped out
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: port perran on November 04, 2020, 03:54:15 PM
Quote from: themadhippy on November 04, 2020, 03:43:31 PM
Quotea neat hole in my car petrol tank
is it a definite drill hole not say a hole for a sensor or vent bung that's dropped out
Well, I've had it looked at by Peugeot main dealer and there is no legitimate sensor or vent hole anywhere near where the hole is.
It is a strange one but the police say it's something that's happening from time to time.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on November 04, 2020, 03:55:59 PM
Cars!  I thought that far down Cornwall you used ponies.  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 04, 2020, 04:01:10 PM
Quote from: Snowwolflair on November 04, 2020, 03:55:59 PM
Cars!  I thought that far down Cornwall you used ponies.  :D

Don't answer that Martin - it's a trap!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 04, 2020, 04:04:23 PM
when I was on the AA  :-[ years ago, we had a spate of punctured fuel tanks. talking to a local copper he said they had a ?gang? going round who had a metal spike [hollow] connected to an electric fuel pump by a flexible hose.
parked next to the target car, spiked the tank, turned on pump and filled up their cans.

don't forget, also, that the 'rainbow' effect from spilt petrol/diesel on a wet surface can be huge for a small amount.

just lucky no passing smoker dropped a fag end  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 04, 2020, 04:06:29 PM
certainly think twice about piting your brains against his  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on November 04, 2020, 05:14:44 PM
If the petrol thief has been consistently careless with his handling of his ill-gotten fuel, go to the scene of the crime, touch lighted match to remnants of spilt liquid and watch as the fire trail leads inexorably to the culprit! - and thus would end their lesson for the day.

WARNING! This is not a serious suggestion  :telloff: and any following of stated procedure is at the match lighters own risk and responsibility. :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on November 05, 2020, 08:25:49 PM
I'm angry because my Mum (92 years old) has just returned to her old folks' home after 4 weeks in hospital.

They cured her medical problem but they lost the top set of her false teeth.

So she is condemned to eating mush for the forseeable future  :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 07, 2020, 10:31:09 PM
at the [very real] risk of being deemed political,

am I the only one to note that if several decades of politicians, of all colours, had not been in such a rush to slash the military, both in establishments and personnel, we would still have had .....
military hospitals
staffed by trained personnel
who could have provided a much needed resource in the present pandemic...

of course, politicians have to make sure their troughs are full, rather than look after the people they are supposed to serve...

hence we now have, instead of military hospitals and staff, a wing at an NHS hospital,

and rely on NHS staff serving in the reserves to provide medical care for our forces.

but MPs etc no doubt have no thoughts on this, as long as their expenses and pensions are guaranteed.

I dare not continue, for I am sure further comment would lead to me being in the sin bin.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 07, 2020, 10:44:58 PM
S'okay Alan, that's two of us heading for the sin bin.  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 07, 2020, 10:46:41 PM
you bring a pack of cards, I'll bring crisps and a bottle of scottish water. :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on November 07, 2020, 10:51:05 PM
Quote from: class37025 on November 07, 2020, 10:31:09 PM
at the [very real] risk of being deemed political,

I agree with the rule of not being political on the general forum but maybe we could have a little corner where we can talk politics. That way people can avoid if they want to as they know what the content is likely to be, maybe even password it if necessary? I'd be happy to moderate it as being political it shouldn't take much to moderate.

Just a thought  :confused2:

EDIT: I've just noticed that @class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311) has offered to provide the beverages. He would need to expand his range though  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 07, 2020, 10:55:07 PM
An interesting thought John - I would not complain if it was, as you say, in a little corner.  :thumbsup:

Addit: So that's me and John on the scottish water then.  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on November 07, 2020, 11:02:20 PM
Quotehad not been in such a rush to slash the military
:smiley-laughing: looking around it appears defense, in real terms received around a  2.5% increase   this year and nearly 10% over the past 4 years whilst in the same time frame the nhs has been cut in real terms by nearly 25%
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 07, 2020, 11:10:07 PM
looks like I'll need to bring a party seven  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on November 07, 2020, 11:49:40 PM
£39 for 10 litres of this. How many do you want me to put on your tab?

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Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 08, 2020, 12:15:15 AM
not sure I'm ready to hibernate ..

who would walk HB each day  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on November 08, 2020, 12:18:12 AM
QuoteHow many do you want me to put on your tab?

Quote from: class37025 on November 07, 2020, 11:10:07 PM
seven  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on November 08, 2020, 12:21:35 AM
3 people, 7 x 10litres = 123 pints = 41 pints each. Yep, should last Friday and Saturday  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 08, 2020, 12:23:25 AM
Quote from: themadhippy on November 08, 2020, 12:18:12 AM
QuoteHow many do you want me to put on your tab?

Quote from: class37025 on November 07, 2020, 11:10:07 PM
seven  :-[

its a hoax, I was miss quoted  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on November 08, 2020, 12:47:18 AM
Was that before the operation? :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 19, 2020, 05:43:41 PM
NUFFIELD HOSPITAL HAYWARDS HEATH ..

what a load of  :poop:

younger daughter was referred there by NHS PRH Haywards heath for an op, went in yesterday, had the op, then today was discharged ..

in spite of this morning having such low blood pressure that they had to adjust her bed to put her feet above her head
and being on Morphine plus two other pain killers, which to me sounded prescription only

so called doctor arrived, couldn't get bloods from her veins so took from her thumb [screams of pain] then said you're being discharged, just take paracetomol when you get home for the pain.

so, chucked out this afternoon, and collapsed on the doorstep when she arrived home, now in A&E at PRH.

phone call to Nuffield 'matrons in a management meeting, she'll phone you tomorrow'
will I hold my breath / nahh
phone call to CEOs office at Brighton & Sussex university NHS trust [who are responsible for the PRH, phone 'answered', then left me for over 5 minutes listening to some woman having a conversation with someone else  :veryangry:
tried again, and got voice mail, of course f/o home at 17:00, message left, not very polite, asking for a call back and explaining why.
contacted PALS at PRH, now just after 17:00 so got voice mail, message left, slightly more polite but still 'forcefull' asking for a call back, and again asking for a call back so a formal complaint can be made.

and please, DO NOT MENTION COVID-19, it is no  :censored: excuse for poor / negligent care.

now waiting to see if daughter will be admitted to PRH.

assume Nuffield want the beds for paying [private] patients who they can earn more from than NHS patients.

needless to say, the 'doctor' who discharged her was one she'd seen at PRH, but presumeably now on a better pay grade.

ACKO12, PLEASE, come out of retirement ....

grid reference is ............
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 19, 2020, 06:13:22 PM
I hope your daughter is okay Alan. Certainly seems to be a suitable case for complaint, if you get no satisfaction tomorrow, you should have a look at

https://www.nhs.uk/using-the-nhs/about-the-nhs/how-to-complain-to-the-nhs/#:~:text=Contact%20your%20local%20clinical%20commissioning,often%20displayed%20on%20its%20website. (https://www.nhs.uk/using-the-nhs/about-the-nhs/how-to-complain-to-the-nhs/#:~:text=Contact%20your%20local%20clinical%20commissioning,often%20displayed%20on%20its%20website.)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on November 19, 2020, 06:31:28 PM
Quoteam I the only one to note that if several decades of politicians, of all colours, had not been in such a rush to slash the military,
Dont panic they've given the magic money tree, that didn't exist before the last election,   a  good shake  and £16.5 billion has fallen from its branches
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 19, 2020, 06:39:22 PM
someone has obviously bought shares in a shipyard  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on November 19, 2020, 06:48:53 PM
Quote from: class37025 on November 19, 2020, 06:39:22 PM
someone has obviously bought shares in a shipyard  :veryangry:

The same reason Gordon Brown ordered two aircraft carriers, to buy Scottish votes.  The type 26 and 31 frigates will be substantially Clyde built and that is where the bulk of the extra money will go.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 19, 2020, 06:50:28 PM
might be better spent building a new Hadrians wall, complete with minefields and barbed wire [made in sheffield ?]
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on November 19, 2020, 07:11:48 PM
Quotemight be better spent building a new Hadrians wall, complete with minefields and barbed wire
mmm not sure thats enough to keep the english  migrants from trying to cross the boarder
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 19, 2020, 07:42:11 PM
 :hmmm:
would I really risk barbed wire and landmines to get to somewhere with a diet of haggis, whisky, tatties and neeps ?

landscapes like the great glen ?

and railways with class 26 /27 /37/47 and HSTs ?

wheres my ladder, bolt cutters and mine detector  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on November 19, 2020, 10:01:14 PM
Quote from: class37025 on November 19, 2020, 07:42:11 PM
would I really risk barbed wire and landmines to get to somewhere with a diet of haggis, whisky, tatties and neeps ?

And deep fried Mars bars  :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 19, 2020, 10:12:29 PM
and, of course, Rocket's mum [Bluestone 42 reference]  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 20, 2020, 09:56:46 AM
update :
daughter finally back home from A&E late yesterday evening, doctor said in the end there were no clinical reasons to admit her, but he did have concerns that she had been discharged too soon by the Nuffield.
however, I have spoken to her this morning, and she is feeling slightly better, and is at least at home now.

also, at 09:15 this morning, a phone call from the Matron [ now there is a term from the past ] from the Nuffield to discuss my call yesterday. while she could not, of course, discuss my daughter's case, she did take on board my 'concerns' about her discharge, especially as her documents said 'there were no problems with her recovery', though I would have said that blood pressure so low that she had to have her bed set to have her feet higher than her head, and being put on oxygen would not have been classed as no problems.

anyway. she is contacting my daughter later this morning.

still not heard back yet from PALS or the CEO's office, but I am sure I will in due course.

lastly, apologies to those members I was supposed to be taking photos of locos for last night, but didn't get around to it. I hope you understand. will, once HB exercised, be getting the locos out, test running, and getting the photos done, hopefully by this evening, SWMBO and HB permitting.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 20, 2020, 10:16:05 AM
Quote from: class37025 on November 19, 2020, 10:12:29 PM
and, of course, Rocket's mum [Bluestone 42 reference]  :-[

we won't mention twins or bendy buses, this is after all a family forum  >:D

right now, off we ....  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on November 20, 2020, 10:53:54 AM
Good idea. I won't mention them as I haven't got a clue what you're on about even after googling.

I did go on a bendy bus about 45 years ago in Germany though  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Flange Squeal on November 20, 2020, 11:13:19 AM
There's something alluring about bendy-busses. It's a shame Boris got rid of London's excellent fleet of Mercedes Citaros.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 20, 2020, 11:15:56 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on November 20, 2020, 10:53:54 AM
Good idea. I won't mention them as I haven't got a clue what you're on about even after googling.

I did go on a bendy bus about 45 years ago in Germany though  :thumbsup:

you'd need to be a fan of Bluestone 42 to understand that one  :-[

and so, probably certifiable  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on November 23, 2020, 11:38:16 AM
Hermes have really done it this time - SWMBO sent a christmas present to her BFF using MyHermes, as she usually does, successfully delivered.

Only, at 5.15pm (after the customer services has closed for the weekend) she received an EMail saying that the parcel, that we weighed at 212g, 'actually' weighed 1.2kg. There followed an invoice for £4.30 (£1.30 underpayment, £3.00 'Administration Fee').

Enquiry email sent off to email address on email. If they still insist, photographic evidence will be requested - I have photogrphic evidence of the parcel being weighed.

They'll get the £4.30 over my cold and lifeless body.

If you feel like it, sign the change.org petition: http://chng.it/shLzM8bFY4 (http://chng.it/shLzM8bFY4)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on November 23, 2020, 01:20:58 PM
Out of the literally hundreds of deliveries we have had over recent months, we have had problems with two - both with Hermes.

The first was a package of cupboard door handles that I needed for installation of the doors at the weekend. On the Friday, I finally found out (through my own efforts) that the package had been damaged and had been sat in the Hermes warehouse since Tuesday, but they'd not bothered to tell anyone - too late for the supplier to send more out on next day delivery.

The second was a sink for the same kitchen, with the supplier chosen as the only one that could get that particular sink to us in time. Hermes first told us that it was out for delivery on the due date (but showed it as being in the wrong city). Then two days later, they placed it (the wrong way up) outside our front door, rang the bell and left as soon as they saw me. It was raining and I had no shoes on, so it was a couple of minutes before I could bring the box in. As soon as I picked it up, I could tell by the sounds that the sink was broken. It was in about 20 pieces and there was no way that the courier could have lifted it without hearing that it was broken, but he'd just left it and run.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on November 25, 2020, 01:57:04 PM
Just returned from this weeks shop at Morrisons and their social distancing has become a joke and it's not the fault of the customers, it lays firmly with Morrisons.
Over the summer they reduced the number of tills to 8 and expanded the number self service tills but what they seem to forget is that they are a supermarket, not a local convenience store where customers pop in to buy a handful of items. Everybody and I mean everybody had a trolley full and there wasn't a single customer using the self service tills. Only 5 tills were open meaning queuing down the aisles behind the distancing lines on the floor where people were still trying to shop and in a couple of aisles there were 2 queues! However it was a waste of time trying to keep your distance as once you reach the tills you are loading your shopping onto the conveyor belt back to back with the customer on the next till and when the customer that arrives at the next till is on the larger size you are literally back to back!
The staffs response - a shrug of the shoulders and "there's nothing we can do".
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 25, 2020, 02:21:43 PM
Exactly the same at Tesco this morning. Also, the girl on the checkout must have trying to break a record for getting all my items through as they piled up and then she sat back and asked if I had a Clubcard, to which I replied "Yes - but it can wait until I've packed my shopping away" ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 25, 2020, 02:41:50 PM
I had a similar experience at Tesco a couple of months ago - goods being scanned at a fair rate of knots. "Are you in a hurry love?", says I. Back came the reply, "Er, no", to which I answered "Neither am I". She did slow down a bit.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on November 25, 2020, 02:59:21 PM
The 2 Tescos I use here, and Lidl seem to work very well; Tescos there is one queue for the tills on the furthest aisle, and along the back of the store if necessary, with members of staff each monitoring 3 or 4 tills all wearing headset comms and the member of staff at the head of the queue directs the next in line to till number xx,majority of tills are ooen. They have relaxed the down this aisle up the next, but the aisles are wide enough to keep reasonable distance, only problems I've noticed are ditzy females who can't decide which variety to get and seems to choose a position to generate a bottle neck and then gets out her mobile and gasses for half hour while the rest of us who know what we want can't get near it with her stood there oblivious.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on November 25, 2020, 03:30:39 PM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on November 25, 2020, 02:59:21 PM
Tescos there is one queue for the tills on the furthest aisle, and along the back of the store if necessary, with members of staff each monitoring 3 or 4 tills all wearing headset comms and the member of staff at the head of the queue directs the next in line to till number xx,majority of tills are ooen.

We had this at Morrisons a few weeks ago now when I went shopping with the wife. However, once the young girl told us to go to checkout 7 (we were at around 15) the wife disowned me as I just couldn't resist walking along 15 to 7 shouting out SEVEN! in my best Len Goodman voice  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on November 25, 2020, 03:53:59 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on November 25, 2020, 03:30:39 PM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on November 25, 2020, 02:59:21 PM
Tescos there is one queue for the tills on the furthest aisle, and along the back of the store if necessary, with members of staff each monitoring 3 or 4 tills all wearing headset comms and the member of staff at the head of the queue directs the next in line to till number xx,majority of tills are ooen.

We had this at Morrisons a few weeks ago now when I went shopping with the wife. However, once the young girl told us to go to checkout 7 (we were at around 15) the wife disowned me as I just couldn't resist walking along 15 to 7 shouting out SEVEN! in my best Len Goodman voice  :D

Having only met you a handful of times and had dealings with you on here.....NOTHING in that paragraph surprised me  ;)

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on November 25, 2020, 06:01:38 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on October 17, 2020, 12:58:16 AM
Are you sure you meant gym and not Jim?

I thought he meant gin
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on November 28, 2020, 01:32:18 PM
I have a couple of medical problems, one was the hospital advised me to contact my doctor as I am low on vit B12. I ring the doctors and was told to use the new  mygp app by the receptionist. I eventually downloaded the app onto my new phone and when I search for my doctors it is not listed, it mentioned my doctors may be a branch which it is, I found the main practice but according to the nhs is not set up, very annoying. I have managed to buy some multivits from my chemist but I get the feeling they do not want me to contact them. There are plenty of people out there especially pensioners who do not have smart phones, what are they supposed to do !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ImpInaBox on November 28, 2020, 01:39:51 PM
I've got the opposite problem just now.  I keep getting reminders about the flu jab so tried to make an appointment using their online system only to find it's been disabled by the surgery.  Been trying to book and appointment by phone for 3 days now - when I'm around they're at lunch or busy.  And every time I try I get a 2 minute speech about :censored: covid precautions before it even gets to the menu!

Years agao I could phone up and get an aswer in seconds or just wander down to the surgery and be seen same day.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ImpInaBox on November 28, 2020, 01:40:45 PM
And another thing... I'm having a bad couple of days just now!  Anyone used Dulux 'Quick Dry' gloss paint? 

We're busy redecorating the hall and landing: that's 9 doors to paint, so Mrs Imp came back with a 2.5L tin of the stuff.  It's brilliant white covering a previous application of brilliant white, now 9 years old and somewhat yellowed, so I did my usual prep: sanded down the door and frame, wiped it all down and started to apply said paint.

Yeurgh!  It's 'orrible gloopy stuff - somewhere between liquid gloss and the non-stick stuff but drops off the brush in gloopy lumps - and not even opaque enough to cover old white in one coat.  And when it dries it isn't even glossy!  :poop:  I ended up taking it all off again - more sanding and leg waxing technique with sticky tape - and buying another tin - this time Dulux non-stick brilliant white: smooth, opaque and VERY shiny when dry.

How can they call the quick dry stuff 'gloss'?  If I wanted satin finish I'd have bought satin.  If they want to mess about with the paint formula why don'#t they try making some white paint that doesn't go yellow   Agghhh!  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on November 28, 2020, 02:34:34 PM
Quote from: ImpInaBox on November 28, 2020, 01:40:45 PM
Dulux non-stick brilliant white:

Doesn't that defeat the object of painting? I thought paint needed to stick  :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ImpInaBox on November 28, 2020, 03:04:53 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on November 28, 2020, 02:34:34 PM
Quote from: ImpInaBox on November 28, 2020, 01:40:45 PM
Dulux non-stick brilliant white:

Doesn't that defeat the object of painting? I thought paint needed to stick  :doh:

Stick / Drip - whatever!  I said I was having a bad day! 

Mind you - that quick dry stuff is pretty non-stick too.  In fact there's b****r all that's right wi'it!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on November 28, 2020, 03:56:59 PM
Okay.

Dulux Quick Dry is waterbased. So, no yellowing, as no oil.

I use GALLONS of Dulux Trade Quick Dry Satin, Eggshell and a little Gloss. I get great results with all of them...

...but...

...you DO have to be using the right type of brush. Gone are the days of slapping on paint with any old brush. With waterbased paint you need to use a synthetic brush, but it also needs to be a FIRM brush to brush it out properly. I suspect this is why you felt it was gloopy and lumpy. I use ProForm Picasso Firm Blend brushes. About £7-£9 per brush.

Because modern paints are more 'technical' than old fashioned oil based crap, I do have to have quite an armoury of brushes. I reckon I have a base selection of about six different types, all synthetic.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on November 28, 2020, 04:04:27 PM
You can come and do my hall, stairs and landing if you like. Not too far to travel  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 28, 2020, 04:37:12 PM
Quote from: lil chris on November 28, 2020, 01:32:18 PM
There are plenty of people out there especially pensioners who do not have smart phones, what are they supposed to do !

I am in that number.

Quote from: Trainfish on November 28, 2020, 04:04:27 PM
You can come and do my hall, stairs and landing if you like. Not too far to travel  :thumbsup:

Some years ago I did a hall, stairs and landing using Dulux One Coat. Using blue over the existing magnolia. It covered OK but the next day it looked as if it had slipped down the wall very slightly leaving 2-3mm wide 'rips' in the paint :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on November 28, 2020, 04:53:23 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on November 28, 2020, 04:37:12 PM
Quote from: lil chris on November 28, 2020, 01:32:18 PM
There are plenty of people out there especially pensioners who do not have smart phones, what are they supposed to do !

I am in that number.

Me too, I see Lidl have introduced an app needing a mobile, think it's purpose is similar to Tesco club card for money off, us pensioners need anything that helps get money off, why do we have to have a mobile/smart phone to partake?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on November 28, 2020, 06:01:42 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on November 28, 2020, 04:04:27 PM
You can come and do my hall, stairs and landing if you like. Not too far to travel  :thumbsup:

That sounds like some deeeeeeeeep pockets.

:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 28, 2020, 09:22:13 PM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on November 28, 2020, 04:53:23 PM
us pensioners need anything that helps get money off, why do we have to have a mobile/smart phone to partake?

At least we get a heating allowance to spend on model railways, Mike :) @Dorsetmike (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2855)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on November 28, 2020, 09:33:36 PM
Couldn't be without mine..... in fact I do a lot of my forum work on it when I'm out and about!

Probably shows, too....  ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on November 29, 2020, 12:59:12 AM
Quote from: emjaybee on November 28, 2020, 03:56:59 PM
Dulux Quick Dry is waterbased. So, no yellowing, as no oil.

Water based paints have improved considerably, but when they first became common, they were atrocious. I divided off part of the boxroom to give us a second (windowless) toilet. I painted the woodwork with water based paint and it went yellow within a couple of months. I later found out that it was prone to yellowing - unless exposed to sunlight!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on November 29, 2020, 01:05:50 AM
Quote from: stevewalker on November 29, 2020, 12:59:12 AM
Quote from: emjaybee on November 28, 2020, 03:56:59 PM
Dulux Quick Dry is waterbased. So, no yellowing, as no oil.

Water based paints have improved considerably, but when they first became common, they were atrocious. I divided off part of the boxroom to give us a second (windowless) toilet. I painted the woodwork with water based paint and it went yellow within a couple of months. I later found out that it was prone to yellowing - unless exposed to sunlight!

To be honest I avoid using anything other than waterbased these days, inside or out. I used to get such bad headaches after a days painting, and then the ball-ache of brush cleaning. No more!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on November 29, 2020, 06:44:14 AM
Quote from: Bealman on November 28, 2020, 09:33:36 PM
Couldn't be without mine..... in fact I do a lot of my forum work on it when I'm out and about!

Probably shows, too....  ;D

Like now... at bowling club having a beer and attempting to win a Christmas ham in the raffle, but still connected to the NGF!

Now how cool is that?  ;) :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on November 29, 2020, 09:56:36 AM
Not working today then?  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 29, 2020, 10:57:41 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on November 28, 2020, 09:22:13 PM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on November 28, 2020, 04:53:23 PM
us pensioners need anything that helps get money off, why do we have to have a mobile/smart phone to partake?

At least we get a heating allowance to spend on model railways, Mike :) @Dorsetmike (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2855)

and don't forget the christmas bonus, £10 which hasn't increased since it was introduced in, IIRC, the 1980s.

wish my bills were the same as then  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 29, 2020, 01:00:56 PM
Quote from: class37025 on November 29, 2020, 10:57:41 AM

and don't forget the christmas bonus, £10 which hasn't increased since it was introduced in, IIRC, the 1980s.


Christmas Bonus, Alan? Whassat? :confused2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on November 29, 2020, 01:10:06 PM
Christmas turkey = poultry.
Christmas bonus = paltry.
I think David @dannyboy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4209) might bear me out, but I believe in Ireland, they get an extra week's pension as a Christmas Box.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on November 29, 2020, 01:18:04 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on November 29, 2020, 01:00:56 PM
Quote from: class37025 on November 29, 2020, 10:57:41 AM

and don't forget the christmas bonus, £10 which hasn't increased since it was introduced in, IIRC, the 1980s.


Christmas Bonus, Alan? Whassat? :confused2:

This one? (https://www.gov.uk/christmas-bonus)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on November 29, 2020, 01:34:17 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on November 29, 2020, 01:18:04 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on November 29, 2020, 01:00:56 PM
Quote from: class37025 on November 29, 2020, 10:57:41 AM

and don't forget the christmas bonus, £10 which hasn't increased since it was introduced in, IIRC, the 1980s.


Christmas Bonus, Alan? Whassat? :confused2:

This one? (https://www.gov.uk/christmas-bonus)

Yeah IF you get other qualifying benefits
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 29, 2020, 01:37:58 PM
@TrevL (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5583) is correct. The majority of Social Welfare recipients in Ireland get an extra weeks benefit during the first week or so of December.  It was always 100% of a weeks payment, apart from a couple of years back when it was dropped to 85% - that didn't last long - the Government soon put it back up to 100%.  ;). The majority of people on PUP, (Pandemic Unemployment Payment), will also get the bonus this year.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on November 29, 2020, 01:42:07 PM
When I worked in Hong Kong I did like the extra months salary (so 13 months pay in a year) paid in December. and as your tax was net about 10% of salary it paid this for the year.   I assume it is still the same now.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 29, 2020, 01:53:56 PM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on November 29, 2020, 01:34:17 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on November 29, 2020, 01:18:04 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on November 29, 2020, 01:00:56 PM
Quote from: class37025 on November 29, 2020, 10:57:41 AM

and don't forget the christmas bonus, £10 which hasn't increased since it was introduced in, IIRC, the 1980s.


Christmas Bonus, Alan? Whassat? :confused2:

This one? (https://www.gov.uk/christmas-bonus)

Yeah IF you get other qualifying benefits

That'll be a 'No' then
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 29, 2020, 01:58:42 PM
Ahbut, you have it to look forward to Mick.  Od on a minute - I thought you were of a 'certain age' Mick - if that is correct, you should automatically get it.  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 29, 2020, 02:01:31 PM
according to gov.uk,
to be eligable you must be in receipt of certain benefits, including
"State Pension (including Graduated Retirement Benefit)"

so basically every recipient of state pension will get it.

when it first started, in the late 70's / early 80's £10 was worth something, nowadays not much.

at the risk of being deleted again, for being political, I doubt mp's benefits are the same as in the 70's. :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on November 29, 2020, 02:03:13 PM
I 'look forward' to getting absolutely nothing from the government in 3 weeks time as I had the audacity to claim 6 months of JSA (less than £75 per week) after having my contract terminated in June  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on November 29, 2020, 03:09:08 PM
 
Quotecertain benefits, including
"State Pension (including Graduated Retirement Benefit)"
As its the angry thread here goes
How the flock  can the state  pension be called a benefit? Its a compulsory savings scheme that you pay into the minute you start work but without the perks,want to tour the world for a few years after slogging yer guts out  since leaving school? fine,but if your out the country for more than 3 months you aint going to get a share of the pot you've paid into for 50 years.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 29, 2020, 03:22:34 PM
I am not sure how things work now or how they have changed in the last 22 years. I started working 10 days before my 16th birthday and worked continuously until I was 48 and moved to Ireland. I have only been back to the UK for holidays, but I am entitled to my UK Pension and have been since my 65th birthday. The money is paid into my Irish bank account every 4 weeks.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on November 29, 2020, 03:29:35 PM
I'm not 100% sure but I think you have to have paid in for 30 years to get the full pension. My argument on that is can I stop paying in after 30 years then?  :-\
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on November 29, 2020, 03:42:22 PM
35 years for the full pension,or be born before april 6 1951.
Quotebut I am entitled to my UK Pension
yep  you can retire and still get pension if you live out of the uk,however if you decide to take a holidayfor longer than   3 months under the benefit rules you wont get a penny
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 29, 2020, 03:49:16 PM
@Trainfish (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=262)
It was 30 years when I submitted my claim John and, as I had paid in for more than 30 years, I get the OAP, (or whatever it is called now), pension.

P.S. Do not tell anyone, but if you pay in the minimum required, (30 years?) you get the UK pension. If you then decamp to another EU country and work for the minimum number of years necessary in the other EU country, you get the OAP from that country as well.  ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 29, 2020, 03:54:55 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on November 29, 2020, 03:29:35 PM
My argument on that is can I stop paying in after 30 years then?  :-\

I don't know why, but I have a sneaky feeling that that would not work.  :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 29, 2020, 03:59:26 PM
Quote from: themadhippy on November 29, 2020, 03:42:22 PM
however if you decide to take a holidayfor longer than   3 months under the benefit rules you wont get a penny

As I said earlier, I do not know how things work now, but surely if you take a holiday for more than 3 months, it only means that you will not get any benefits whilst on holiday, not that any benefit has been totally lost?  ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: themadhippy on November 29, 2020, 04:46:56 PM
Quotebut surely if you take a holiday for more than 3 months, it only means that you will not get any benefits whilst on holiday,
I dont have an issue with benefits like rent and council tax allowance being stopped if i decide to bugger off for 6 months as it would be the same rules that are applied to those living outside the country,however why should i loose my pension whilst out of the country   for having itchy feet and want wander instead of staying in one place?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jerry Howlett on November 29, 2020, 04:55:15 PM
I left the UK and retired to Italy after 31 years "working" for BR.  I am due the UK state pension albeit slightly reduced when / if  I achieve the sprightly age of 66.  I can top up as well to increase the amount asI think I am a couple of years short to get maximum.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 29, 2020, 04:58:37 PM
@themadhippy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4863)
Ah, I see what you are saying now. I didn't realise your pension was stopped if you went on a long holiday.  Thank goodness I told 'them' that I was living here and not just on a long holiday! :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on November 29, 2020, 04:59:30 PM
Taking a break or working abroad has no impact on your entitlement as long as you meet the following number of qualifying years at some point in your working life.

"You'll usually need at least 10 qualifying years on your National Insurance record to get any State Pension. You'll need 35 qualifying years to get the full new State Pension. You'll get a proportion of the new State Pension if you have between 10 and 35 qualifying years."
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 29, 2020, 07:13:29 PM
I've been getting state pension for 2 years now so the blighters owe me £20 (coming up for £30) so I'll be having words!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on November 29, 2020, 07:16:25 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on November 29, 2020, 07:13:29 PM
I've been getting state pension for 2 years now so the blighters owe me £20 (coming up for £30) so I'll be having words!

Go for it, that's worth a Farish wagon  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: javlinfaw7 on November 29, 2020, 08:00:03 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on November 29, 2020, 07:13:29 PM
I've been getting state pension for 2 years now so the blighters owe me £20 (coming up for £30) so I'll be having words!
Be careful  you could spend that listening to Vivaldi before you are answered at this time of year
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on November 29, 2020, 11:36:32 PM
Quote from: Snowwolflair on November 29, 2020, 07:16:25 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on November 29, 2020, 07:13:29 PM
I've been getting state pension for 2 years now so the blighters owe me £20 (coming up for £30) so I'll be having words!

Go for it, that's worth a Farish wagon  :thumbsup:

Another 18 months and it could be worth a Farish coach. Then again, in 18 months the prices will have gone up again and you'll need another 18 months for a coach  :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on November 30, 2020, 05:42:01 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on November 29, 2020, 07:13:29 PM
I've been getting state pension for 2 years now so the blighters owe me £20 (coming up for £30) so I'll be having words!

What about the £200 heating allowance, have they "forgotten" about that too?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 30, 2020, 10:14:38 AM
Quote from: TrevL on November 30, 2020, 05:42:01 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on November 29, 2020, 07:13:29 PM
I've been getting state pension for 2 years now so the blighters owe me £20 (coming up for £30) so I'll be having words!

What about the £200 heating allowance, have they "forgotten" about that too?

Most has gone on the Kato class 800, Trev :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on November 30, 2020, 10:50:29 PM
A Update on my story from the other day, I have only being trying to log on to the wrong app ie "MYGP" apparantly my doctors uses a different app "askmyGP", how the bloody hell was I supposed to know there is more than one app, get the feeling they don't want us to ring. What is more the app is alledgedly from 7.00am til 5.00pm but my Doctors had turned the app off, by 3.30pm because they were full, what chance have you got.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: port perran on December 21, 2020, 02:55:28 PM
I've just emailed the DWP re my State Pension which I receive from 26th of this month (I'll be 66 then).
It seems that to qualify for the full State Pension you have to have made full NI Contributions for 35 years.
I have paid 44 years n full and 6 partial years.
Anyway, my NI contributions easily exceed the 35 year target.
However I will, according to DWP , be receiving some £140 per month less than full pension.
I have asked them for their comments via their on-line email form.
What made me chuckle was that at the beginning the on line form states very clearly "As the security of this form cannot be guaranteed do not supply ANY personal information".
Fair enough, so..first questions asked when filling in the form :   Full Name, Address, DOB, email address, telephone number  :hmmm:
The automated reply states "You should hear from your office as son as possible"  :doh:
Not "We thank you for your enquiry, you will receive a reply within 10 working days".
I shan't be holding my breath but I will persist until I get an answer.
It's no good 'phoning them - the automated message says that you must use the email system for enquiries due to Covid. Hmmm .
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on December 21, 2020, 03:04:08 PM
Quote from: port perran on December 21, 2020, 02:55:28 PM
It's no good 'phoning them - the automated message says that you must use the email system for enquiries due to Covid. Hmmm .

:goggleeyes: Can it be spread over the telephone now? If so we're all doomed!

On a more serious note I for one would be interested to hear what they come back with as hopefully I will be in a similar position one day.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 21, 2020, 03:16:44 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on December 21, 2020, 03:04:08 PM
:goggleeyes: Can it be spread over the telephone now? If so we're all doomed!

As long as the 5G masts are more than 2m apart I think we're safe :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on December 21, 2020, 03:21:33 PM
In which case I'm going back to using this. Not much chance of this being capable of any G never mind 5G

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51qTsnt9-7L.jpg)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on December 21, 2020, 03:23:49 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on December 21, 2020, 03:04:08 PM
..
:goggleeyes: Can it be spread over the telephone now? If so we're all doomed!
...

I'll be okay. I use call screening to filter incoming calls. :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 21, 2020, 04:11:03 PM
Quote from: RailGooner on December 21, 2020, 03:23:49 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on December 21, 2020, 03:04:08 PM
..
:goggleeyes: Can it be spread over the telephone now? If so we're all doomed!
...

I'll be okay. I use call screening to filter incoming calls. :D

Are you speaking on your own behalf or your avatar's?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on December 21, 2020, 04:30:57 PM
I really don't understand some peoples' choice of avatar  :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on December 21, 2020, 06:13:25 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on December 21, 2020, 04:30:57 PM
I really don't understand some peoples' choice of avatar  :doh:
Well I think mine is appropriate, I'm like my avatar - a local ruin!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on December 21, 2020, 06:14:04 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on December 21, 2020, 04:30:57 PM
I really don't understand some peoples' choice of avatar  :doh:

Well I'm like my avatar - a local ruin
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: keerout on December 21, 2020, 06:41:44 PM
*a local ruin*...With a rather nice railway close by...  8)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 23, 2020, 09:59:52 AM
 :censored: Virgin media.

had parcels to send off monday for two members, when Virgin went down, so no phone, no internet, and even worse, no tv, so SWMBO was wingeing  :'(

so items all tested and packed monday when Virgin went down, and I couldn't access my messages to get their addresses.

initially 'we are having no problems in your postcode, are you plugged in ?' then the recording changed a couple of hours later  to due according to them to be up again 23.00, then 10.00 tuesday, then 16.00, then 18.00, then 10.00 today, and as you can see now actually back on.

engineers variously heading to the site / on site and working hard to repair / heading to site, heading to site and variations depending on which recording / text you got.

as I'm sending special delivery they SHOULD still get them tomorrow, royal mail permitting.

and to top it all eldest grandson was with us and couldn't get his PS something or other to work as no internet, so moaning he was bored. 'read a book' - 'books are boring'  :veryangry:

luckily he's been after some 'thing' for his game he plays so told him he could do jobs and earn the money for it,  well no point in having grandkids if you can't exploit them is there  >:D

so now will follow the discussion with Virgin re compensation for loss of service for 48 hours .. that should be interesting.

when we were without water a month or so ago, for about 18 hours, the water company made every customer a credit payment for loss of service, only £30 off your bill, but hugely expensive overall for them with thousands of customers.

will beardies lot do the same ?

don't hold your breath  :veryangry:


update....
just spoken to our postie, and apparently NO GUARANTEE on special delivery for christmas eve
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 23, 2020, 11:05:05 AM
Quote from: class37025 on December 23, 2020, 09:59:52 AM

and to top it all eldest grandson was with us and couldn't get his PS something or other to work as no internet, so moaning he was bored. 'read a book' - 'books are boring'  :veryangry:

luckily he's been after some 'thing' for his game he plays so told him he could do jobs and earn the money for it,  well no point in having grandkids if you can't exploit them is there  >:D


I trust you now have a pristine chimney, Alan? Let's face it, many kids would just curl up and die without their electronic gizmos. At least it sounds as if your grandson can read, even if he finds it boring.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 23, 2020, 12:55:31 PM
windows cleaned inside
carpets hoovered
furniture dusted and polished
leaves on patio swept and binned in green bin

elf - n - safety raised it's head, so couldn't get him to do outsides of windows, get moss off roof tiles, or repoint chimney stack though  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on December 23, 2020, 01:34:29 PM
Put your elf back on the shelf! If you put a rope round him and throw the other end over the roof  he should be OK
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on December 23, 2020, 05:25:46 PM
Well any visiting at Christmas is off. For the sake of 3-1/2 days in the last week at school, we have been advised that during that last week, my eldest son (year 13) was in a year with a confirmed case, but it's not certain whether or not he was exposed; he was also sat directly in front of another child who complained of feeling breathless and losing his sense of taste but there is no test result; my middle son (year 10) has possibly (but not certainly) been exposed to one confirmed case and definitely to another and has to self-isolate until the 27th; and my youngest son (year 8 ) was in a year with a confirmed case, but it's not certain whether or not he was exposed.

If they'd just finished the Friday before, we could have been certain that they were out of any possible isolation period and could have visited my parents, who they haven't seen since this all began.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 23, 2020, 05:58:09 PM
but, blondie didn't want to cancel christmas ...

oh, hang on  he has

typical of these  :censored:

never mind reality, what is going to give better press.......

sorry, but should have got a grip a lot sooner, but didn't.

as a life long conservative at national level / liberal at local level supporter, I have to say that in my humble opinion only one person comes out as looking good ...
kier starman

last labour leader I had any time for was John Smith, then he died and we got that **** who took us into an illegal war, then got himself a job as peace envoy to the area he'd  :censored: up.

political rant over, expecting to be banned any minute  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on December 23, 2020, 06:49:24 PM
Although I too am not a Labour supporter, I do think that John Smith could have been an excellent PM if he'd lived longer.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on December 23, 2020, 07:10:26 PM
Thought we didn't do political ranting on this forum?

No government in the world has handled this well, how could they? an ever changing viral pandemic with no cure and idiots happy to spread it freely because they don't believe it is real.
The country needs another lockdown but the money men in London (yes, the same that have been having illegal parties) are pushing the government (and it wouldn't matter who was in) not to do so because money is more important than lives, apparently.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 23, 2020, 07:26:30 PM
having planned and got everything needed, including alcohol for internal and external de-bugging, had a phone call from no.2 daughter today ...

dad, can you get me a couple of bits from Tesco's ....

600 items later, ok an exageration, 400 items  :smiley-laughing:

headed down there.

sprayed trolley handles, sanitised hands, while crowds of  :censored: walked past to spread their germs, including nurses and care workers in uniform....

managed to get what she wanted, and without punching anyone in the face [how do staff manage to be so restrained with these cretins ?], checked out, put shopping in car then returned trolley to 'hut', turned round and nearly lost my left knee cap to  :censored: driving wrong way down the one one system.

'oy  :censored: look where you are going !'

turned and looked at him, then pointed out arrows showing he's driving in wrong direction ...

'I'm in a rush'

:hmmm:

reply
' I'm tempted to drag you out of your car, kick you in the round spherical objects and teach you some manners, but I'll resist the temptation ....'
'you  :censored: get out of my way'

ohh dear ..

' shut up,  :censored: off the right way or I'll teach you some  :censored: manners'

:hmmm:

he's 4' sod all in his eco electric car which is why I didn't hear him, I'm 6'1" of ex RAFP / RMP[TA] and not happy ...


he turns left, and f/o the right way down the car park ...

and another shopper says to me

"well done, but I'd have twatted the  :censored:"

so nice to know I'm not the only one who won't suffer idiots.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 23, 2020, 09:07:09 PM
Personally I'm sick and tired of hearing this sector or that sector whining the actions taken are threatening to push their company over the edge. No one wants to see loss of jobs and any further impacts but if I worked for a newsdesk (and it wouldn't be for long, I have no doubt) I'd be asking these captains of industry just how much loss of life is acceptable to them to keep their business afloat.
Meanwhile..............

[gmod]Any further reference to persons of political parties will be deleted. Politics in general I consider fair enough but some are making it personal[/gmod]
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 23, 2020, 10:13:31 PM
I for one would love to see @newportnobby taking Tom's place on news at 10, even if only for one night  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on December 24, 2020, 10:33:48 AM
When will 2020 bugger off? Lost the mother in law and uncle in the last 7 weeks, no work or pay since February (I'm an exam invigilator) and late last night I heard a snapping noise from the kitchen but couldn't see what it was. This morning no heat or hot water and a warning light on the boiler. The fan has broken so no boiler and no local plumbers willing to come out until who knows when. British Gas will but not for 3 weeks. The year that just keeps giving.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on December 30, 2020, 01:57:28 PM
Quote from: thebrighton on December 24, 2020, 10:33:48 AM
When will 2020 bugger off? Lost the mother in law and uncle in the last 7 weeks, no work or pay since February (I'm an exam invigilator) and late last night I heard a snapping noise from the kitchen but couldn't see what it was. This morning no heat or hot water and a warning light on the boiler. The fan has broken so no boiler and no local plumbers willing to come out until who knows when. British Gas will but not for 3 weeks. The year that just keeps giving.

As a follow up our Baxi boiler was unfortunately fitted by British Gas and it turns out that it was an exclusive model to them and my plumber has had zero luck trying to source spares so being the trusting guy I am I tried to source it too with zero success. I guess BG have a secret stash somewhere that they don't want to share.
Anyhow one supplier did think he may be able to source the combustion control unit at great expense within a couple of weeks.
As a result a new boiler is being fitted tomorrow which isn't costing much more than the part. Moral of the story is avoid British Gas ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 30, 2020, 03:36:34 PM
I have finally found my way home .... to the angry thread  >:D

popped down to our local Tesco ... **** walking straight in, no sanitisation, pushing in front of you in the aisles. and was finally complemented by a lady on the self-scan tills as the first person today who had stepped back while she did her bits [don't ask] on my till.

what is up with these  :censored:

so nice to be back where I belong  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on December 30, 2020, 03:46:07 PM
Welcome home Alan, you've been absent from this thread for far too long  :D

I think it's the same everywhere with people like this. I walked into town yesterday to pay my respects to a friend who passed away 3 weeks ago, non COVID for what it's worth. I was stood with around 100 others who were all well distanced from each other to watch the funeral cortege pass and yet people still barged their way through us all. I think if you'd been there you'd have reduced their numbers significantly. I then went to 2 shops, 1 of them a supermarket and experienced the same as you describe. And finally, I went in to Superdrug who used to have 2 doors which would have been ideal to use as a one-way system yet they've reduced this to 1 door meaning people are brushing up against each other on entry and exit. Why?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on December 30, 2020, 06:05:26 PM
You apply noticing the idiots in supermarkets now, the staff put up with them all year round.
I was a maintenance man at Tesco's for a couple of years..  I've had the idiots removing safety barriers while I was removing broken glass from a roof.
Pushing past my step ladder which was barriered off In store while I fixed a failed light fitting.

I put up big signs outside the ladies stuck to the door with Haz tape" Maintenance MAN inside",. "Please use disabled toilet" ( I was fixing a tap leak).
It didn't stop several women coming in complaining when they saw me and one let a stiffled scream..
The staff put up with a lot more than I did..
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 30, 2020, 06:23:47 PM
" and one let a stiffled scream.."

not got your big spanner out had you  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: honestjudge on December 30, 2020, 07:09:04 PM
Quote from: thebrighton on December 30, 2020, 01:57:28 PM
Quote from: thebrighton on December 24, 2020, 10:33:48 AM
When will 2020 bugger off? Lost the mother in law and uncle in the last 7 weeks, no work or pay since February (I'm an exam invigilator) and late last night I heard a snapping noise from the kitchen but couldn't see what it was. This morning no heat or hot water and a warning light on the boiler. The fan has broken so no boiler and no local plumbers willing to come out until who knows when. British Gas will but not for 3 weeks. The year that just keeps giving.

As a follow up our Baxi boiler was unfortunately fitted by British Gas and it turns out that it was an exclusive model to them and my plumber has had zero luck trying to source spares so being the trusting guy I am I tried to source it too with zero success. I guess BG have a secret stash somewhere that they don't want to share.
Anyhow one supplier did think he may be able to source the combustion control unit at great expense within a couple of weeks.
As a result a new boiler is being fitted tomorrow which isn't costing much more than the part. Moral of the story is avoid British Gas ;)

In all fairness to BG. They don't make the Boiler, so like any other supplier or installer, will always source the parts from the manufacturer. If that manufacturer stops making the parts then you will be out of luck.
Generally a boiler maker like Baxi will make a model for 7 years then have a redesign, some parts will be carried over to a newer model, the other parts will be exclusive to the older model, and when those parts are all gone, the boiler becomes obsolete and you will have to buy another one.
If your boiler is over ten years old there is a good chance it is just obsolete.  As a former Gas service engineer for BG, Worcester Boilers, and Potterton Boilers, building in obsolescence is good for the business, its the way it is.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on December 30, 2020, 07:33:17 PM
Quote from: honestjudge on December 30, 2020, 07:09:04 PM

In all fairness to BG. They don't make the Boiler, so like any other supplier or installer, will always source the parts from the manufacturer. If that manufacturer stops making the parts then you will be out of luck.
Generally a boiler maker like Baxi will make a model for 7 years then have a redesign, some parts will be carried over to a newer model, the other parts will be exclusive to the older model, and when those parts are all gone, the boiler becomes obsolete and you will have to buy another one.
If your boiler is over ten years old there is a good chance it is just obsolete.  As a former Gas service engineer for BG, Worcester Boilers, and Potterton Boilers, building in obsolescence is good for the business, its the way it is.

I hear what you're saying but I've dug out the paperwork for the boiler which states it was a model made exclusively for British Gas hence why no supplier can source the part even with the GC number. As for age it isn't even 5 years old but of course I haven't got a BG service contract so it's tough, cheers BG.
The one supplier who reckoned he may be able to get his hands on one in a couple of weeks was quoting over £500 + VAT before fitting. Evidently unlike most boilers the fan isn't a separate item.
Where possible I stick up for previous employers when inaccurate accusations are thrown at them but I am not blind to their shortcomings either.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: honestjudge on December 30, 2020, 07:49:44 PM
That is a strange one as 5 years for a boiler is very young to be out of parts. Even made exclusively for one supplier,  most controls would be of a generic type.

I fitted a potterton boiler in my parents house in 1983. It is still chugging away, no parts changed yet and I have a box full of them in my garage, just in case. They don't make em' like they used to.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on December 30, 2020, 07:59:21 PM
Quote from: honestjudge on December 30, 2020, 07:49:44 PM
That is a strange one as 5 years for a boiler is very young to be out of parts. Even made exclusively for one supplier,  most controls would be of a generic type.

I fitted a potterton boiler in my parents house in 1983. It is still chugging away, no parts changed yet and I have a box full of them in my garage, just in case. They don't make em' like they used to.

From talking to suppliers it doesn't appear to be a case of being out of parts rather than BG keeping sole control of them.
As for old boilers my parents had a new one fitted 5-6 years ago to replace the original one that came with their new house when they bought it in 1972! It only went as parts were impossible to source and their plumber who used to make or adapt parts sadly retired when he hit 80....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on January 05, 2021, 03:14:59 PM
My boss managed to get the IT guy in to set up remote access for us so I am now having to do tech support from home again, using my own laptop and phone again without any reparation. I hate that horrible small man  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on January 05, 2021, 03:23:19 PM
Sounds like one for your union.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 05, 2021, 03:33:56 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on January 05, 2021, 03:14:59 PM
My boss managed to get the IT guy in to set up remote access for us so I am now having to do tech support from home again, using my own laptop and phone again without any reparation. I hate that horrible small man  :veryangry:

Well that doesn't sound like it's playing by the rules at all!

Yes speak to Union if that's an option, or at the very least some form of employment law adviser.

Seems a bit Victorian frankly.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on January 05, 2021, 06:32:18 PM
No union unfortunately, small company run by a small man but at my age my options are pretty limited
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: woodbury22uk on January 05, 2021, 07:15:05 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on January 05, 2021, 06:32:18 PM
No union unfortunately, small company run by a small man but at my age my options are pretty limited

I have found that employers who do not treat their employees well, generally do not treat their customers well. Not a great recipe for long term success. Hope things improve for you.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on January 05, 2021, 07:54:10 PM
There's always ACAS (https://www.acas.org.uk/) if you can't sort it out amicably.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on January 13, 2021, 12:33:51 PM
Just before Christmas we decided that we need two more bookcases to match our existing ones, but were too busy in the run-up. Today I went online to buy them, only to find that since Christmas they have discontinued them, having sold them for many years! Not the entire range, but just the one, matching colour that we need. They have marked it as clearance and reduced the price for that colour only. Click and collect only, no delivery available and the only remaining stock is 140+ miles away. Argggghhh! Now I'll have to look at buying four identical bookcases and throwing the existing ones away. What a waste of materials and money.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ImpInaBox on January 13, 2021, 01:04:34 PM
Sympathy!  Sounds like a typical IKEA trick.  I few years ago I put together some office furniture based on their 'cubes' - a bit utilitarian but the genuine wood veneered version didn't look too too bad.  Now, when I need another cube, the version that looks like wood finish is now some sort of plastic masquerading as wood.   :veryangry: 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on January 13, 2021, 02:24:29 PM
Round our way, the water board have decided to close the road for 10 weeks to replace a sewer. Ok, inconvenient as to get into Clare should be about 1 mile, but because of the closure now a drive of about 5miles. Also it adds  about 3 miles each way for my daughters trip to work. What has really got my goat is that the road has been closed for over a week and they have done  nothing except put up the fences and dump a couple of lorry loads of earth in a layby.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on January 13, 2021, 02:50:05 PM
Quote from: stevewalker on January 13, 2021, 12:33:51 PM
Just before Christmas we decided that we need two more bookcases to match our existing ones, but were too busy in the run-up. Today I went online to buy them, only to find that since Christmas they have discontinued them, having sold them for many years! Not the entire range, but just the one, matching colour that we need. They have marked it as clearance and reduced the price for that colour only. Click and collect only, no delivery available and the only remaining stock is 140+ miles away. Argggghhh! Now I'll have to look at buying four identical bookcases and throwing the existing ones away. What a waste of materials and money.
@stevewalker (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5329)
Is there perhaps a local 'man with a van' type who could collect them for you, I realise it might cost you but perhaps you have saved enough to pay for that service?
Just a thought
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on January 13, 2021, 04:59:03 PM
Probably not worth the cost and effort.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on January 13, 2021, 06:41:55 PM
Quote from: stevewalker on January 13, 2021, 04:59:03 PM
Probably not worth the cost and effort.

@stevewalker (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5329) apologies for trying to help  ::) anyway try getting a quote https://www.shiply.com/l/man-with-a-van/clare (https://www.shiply.com/l/man-with-a-van/clare)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on January 13, 2021, 11:50:16 PM
Suggestions are perfectly welcome. It's just that the bookcases are only cheap ones to start with and it's not worth the hassle and cost get hold of them.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 14, 2021, 02:48:14 PM
just paid a visit to my local supermarket, and while sanitising the trolley handles and gelling my hands saw a  :censored:get out of his car and head straight to the entrance, no mask.

young girl on the door tried to get him to put on a mask, but got a mouthfull of abuse.

mutterings from a couple of guys behind me, so decided I'd probably got backup ..

"put a mask on, sanitise then you can go in. don't give abuse to the young lady"

" :censored: off  :censored: "

oh dear, there is always one, and so far today has been a child of unmarried parents ..

"do you fancy a trip in an ambulance, or are you going to wind your neck in and comply ?"

mutterings, about how I couldn't make him, he had rights etc ..

"you have the right to bleed, you have the right to be taken to hospital, you have the right to probably get covid and die, any other rights you want ?"

"you going to make me ?"

grumbles from two very large labourer types behind me who probably want to get their lunchtime meal deals

"ah  :censored: you, I'll go to ______"

and he left.

WHAT IS IT WITH THESE IDIOTS ????

and would I have hit him  :hmmm: :hmmm:

most likely, he really  :censored: me off, and his attitude to the young girl certainly needed to be addressed.

stay safe you all.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 14, 2021, 03:16:13 PM
Too bloomin right @class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311)

Must say, being a total wuss, I wouldn't know how to handle myself in that situation.

Thankfully I have not seen a single instance of it, but I have yet to go shopping since the tighter enforcement either.

I 100% support your sentiment though, especially regarding the treatment of shop staff. I cannot begin to imagine the feebleness of somebody who behaves in that way.

A good friend of mine, also a shop worker, sums it up best I think:

"Don't abuse the grunts man"

(He is allowed to call himself a grunt, that's not a term I came up with!)

Stay safe

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 14, 2021, 03:47:40 PM
there are those who risk their lives for us every day

there are those who risk their lives to enable us to access shops / services / transport etc

there are the vast majority who obey the rules, simply to prevent us from suffering more

and then there are the  :censored:

I don't want to wear a mask
I can't be bothered to sanitise
I'm happy to break the rules and socialise
I'll abuse anyone [smaller and weaker than me] who tries to get me to obey the rules

and then there are the silent majority, ready to do what needs to be done to protect us and those we love

then of course, there are MPs [no comment]

I give thanks every day to those who risk their safety to protect  us, and to those who see fit to ignore rules / abuse those who are expected to enforce them don't do it in my sight.

"yeah though I walk through the valley of death, I fear no man, for I'm the meanest  :censored: in the valley"

the sooner the idiots reailise they face an army of those who do care, and will not tolerate them and their refusal to obey, the sooner we will rise above this terrible virus.

oooooohhhh raaaaah [as Gibbs would say]
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 14, 2021, 03:56:47 PM
Leroy Jethro Gibbs

A man of few words and many rules.

I suspect the fool you encountered today would not enjoy any of them.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on January 14, 2021, 04:21:35 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on January 14, 2021, 03:56:47 PM
Leroy Jethro Gibbs

A man of few words and many rules.

I suspect the fool you encountered today would not enjoy any of them.

Skyline2uk
As played by Mark Harmon..at roughly $380,000 an episode..nice work if you can get it..
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 14, 2021, 04:48:17 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on January 14, 2021, 03:16:13 PM
Too bloomin right @class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311)

Must say, being a total wuss, I wouldn't know how to handle myself in that situation.

Thankfully I have not seen a single instance of it, but I have yet to go shopping since the tighter enforcement either.

I 100% support your sentiment though, especially regarding the treatment of shop staff. I cannot begin to imagine the feebleness of somebody who behaves in that way.

A good friend of mine, also a shop worker, sums it up best I think:

"Don't abuse the grunts man"

(He is allowed to call himself a grunt, that's not a term I came up with!)

Stay safe

Skyline2uk

as far as I know, the term 'grunt' referred to the the basic infantry soldier / marine in Vietnam, not the REMF, but the guy out in the boonies, walking though mud and jungle, the first to get shot / blown up etc, and has become synonymous with the person on the shop floor, abused and not supported.

having never reached above the giddy heights of 'acting / unpaid / corporal' I am proud to be, if allowed, included in that classification.

those that can - do, those that can't become officers / managers etc

ok, I've known some really great officers / senior NCOs, I've also know some officers / managers who really should have been removed from the gene pool ! to protect the human race.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on January 14, 2021, 05:07:44 PM
Good to see you back to where you belong Alan @class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311), on this thread. I was worried about you last week  :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 14, 2021, 05:28:12 PM
I APOLOGISE

I lost my way, and ended up in the happy thread  :'(

normal service is now resumed  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 14, 2021, 07:27:42 PM
@class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311) I concur with your definition of 'grunt', Alan.

We need a whole army of Jack Reachers, methinks.

On a separate subject I read today police have handed out 407 x £300 fines to lorry drivers for travelling in Kent without the necessary paperwork. Conclusions:-
Someone hasn't properly communicated the new rules which came into effect 1.1.2021 to haulage companies
or
Haulage companies haven't read the manual properly.

I'm quite sure drivers themselves will not end up out of pocket to the tune of £300 but, for crying out loud, they have enough to deal with without a 'REMF' to balls things up for them
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 14, 2021, 07:33:44 PM
a few more grunts let down by 'managers', who probably have a job taking a 10-100  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 14, 2021, 07:44:05 PM
think the term is

TSTBATR

ie

Too Stupid To Be Allowed To Reproduce  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on January 14, 2021, 07:59:37 PM
Quote from: class37025 on January 14, 2021, 07:44:05 PM
think the term is

TSTBATR

ie

Too Stupid To Be Allowed To Reproduce  :smiley-laughing:

But if that happened where would we get our future politicians.

Any kid saying they aspire to be a politician should immediately be put in special needs and be given a Child Protection Order.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 14, 2021, 09:10:14 PM
Quote from: The Q on January 14, 2021, 04:21:35 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on January 14, 2021, 03:56:47 PM
Leroy Jethro Gibbs

A man of few words and many rules.

I suspect the fool you encountered today would not enjoy any of them.

Skyline2uk
As played by Mark Harmon..at roughly $380,000 an episode..nice work if you can get it..

I'd rather watch him any day that that little shortarse cruise pretending to be Reacher, 6'5" 240 pounds.

he'd need more than a box.

now, Tommy Lee Jones, I could see him as Reacher  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on January 15, 2021, 03:32:37 PM
Quote from: class37025 on January 14, 2021, 09:10:14 PM
Quote from: The Q on January 14, 2021, 04:21:35 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on January 14, 2021, 03:56:47 PM
Leroy Jethro Gibbs

A man of few words and many rules.

I suspect the fool you encountered today would not enjoy any of them.

Skyline2uk
As played by Mark Harmon..at roughly $380,000 an episode..nice work if you can get it..

I'd rather watch him any day that that little shortarse cruise pretending to be Reacher, 6'5" 240 pounds.

he'd need more than a box.

now, Tommy Lee Jones, I could see him as Reacher  :)
In the books, he's described as being built like a gorilla. Tom Cruise is built like a barbery ape.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 15, 2021, 03:43:49 PM
That being said, I have both films and think he made a decent job of the part. However, I believe Lee Childs has said he won't have Cruise in the lead role again.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 15, 2021, 04:21:27 PM
unfortunately, as with most films,

read the book

remembered a few bits of it

made a film, that if you watched it you would hardly recognise the book.

I could list so many films 'of books' that actually bear no relationship, overall, to the book.

BUT I WILL NOT

I will take a deep breath, chill, then take HB for his second walk of the day !  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 15, 2021, 04:24:00 PM
Quote from: Malc on January 15, 2021, 03:32:37 PM
Quote from: class37025 on January 14, 2021, 09:10:14 PM
Quote from: The Q on January 14, 2021, 04:21:35 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on January 14, 2021, 03:56:47 PM
Leroy Jethro Gibbs

A man of few words and many rules.

I suspect the fool you encountered today would not enjoy any of them.

Skyline2uk
As played by Mark Harmon..at roughly $380,000 an episode..nice work if you can get it..

I'd rather watch him any day that that little shortarse cruise pretending to be Reacher, 6'5" 240 pounds.

he'd need more than a box.

now, Tommy Lee Jones, I could see him as Reacher  :)
In the books, he's described as being built like a gorilla. Tom Cruise is built like a barbery ape.

on behalf of the Barbary ape appreciation society, I ask you to withdraw your comment !

no such response from the gibbon society  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on January 15, 2021, 04:38:25 PM
My apologies to the Barbary ape contingent, maybe a chimpanzee?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on January 15, 2021, 04:41:04 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on January 15, 2021, 03:43:49 PM
That being said, I have both films and think he made a decent job of the part. However, I believe Lee Childs has said he won't have Cruise in the lead role again.
I did see him interviewed and he said due to viewers complaining how unsuited Cruise was in the Reacher role, he was not going to use him again. He didn't say who he was considering for the role though. Probably the Rock, or Vin Diesel?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 15, 2021, 04:44:27 PM
Steven Seagal ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on January 15, 2021, 04:55:18 PM
I'm looking for a job, maybe I could do it?  :angel:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 15, 2021, 05:30:04 PM
not dressed like that  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on January 15, 2021, 08:06:09 PM
I vote for you Alan, big lad, ex cop, surly demeaner.  Three out of three :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 15, 2021, 09:23:08 PM
me ?
surly ?
surely not !  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 15, 2021, 09:31:32 PM
and please, stop calling me Shirley  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on January 16, 2021, 10:47:43 AM
Went down to local Tesco yesterday to do a few days' shopping. As I was exiting, lady in front stops in the middle of the exit door to the covered, enclosed porch area and proceeds to remove her mask.

Cue me, "Excuse me, can you move on please?" in a voice loud enough to attract the attention of one of the door greeters for the arriving punters. He then asks her to replace her mask until she has exited the building, upon which she starts to argue the toss about whether the porch area is part of the store (as they have all the flowers and gardening stuff there, I would say so).

Eventually he asks her to pull over to the side to unblock the doorway. Last thing I heard as I left was a tannoy announcement "Duty manager to the front of store please..."
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 16, 2021, 10:50:46 AM
well done.

the movement grows  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on January 16, 2021, 10:57:22 AM
It's simple really isn't it. If you can get rained on you're outside. If you can't then you're inside. This doesn't allow for leaky roofs of course.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on January 16, 2021, 11:28:18 AM
Or roofs with 10' overhangs.

Although, I just find it simpler to put my mask on in the car, after I've parked up and take it off again when I get back in the car.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on January 16, 2021, 11:31:10 AM
In my book an overhang counts as inside as you can't be rained on. You could almost relate this to smoking shelter regulations but I won't go there as it could confuse people. I think the being rained on method is simpler but I am similar to you in that I put my mask on whilst walking towards the shop  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Pjlons83 on January 17, 2021, 08:54:30 PM
So I had this genius idea to make use of the space under my new layout for storage. Then I thought that rather than just shelves I'll add doors to make it into a cupboard. As with all my projects things escalate so I added a cabinet lock to keep the kids out as it's low level.........

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/104/6379-170121205152.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=104848)

Yep. You guessed it. I've lost the p :help: :censored: :veryangry: ing key before it's even finished.

I'm hoping they're just generic keys and I can buy another one from B&Q!  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on January 18, 2021, 04:21:20 PM
Quote from: Pjlons83 on January 17, 2021, 08:54:30 PM

Yep. You guessed it. I've lost the p :help: :censored: :veryangry: ing key before it's even finished.


It'll be in the last place you look for it...  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on January 18, 2021, 04:47:37 PM
Quote from: Pjlons83 on January 17, 2021, 08:54:30 PM

Yep. You guessed it. I've lost the p :help: :censored: :veryangry: ing key before it's even finished.
Well, at least you know it's not in the cupboard.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 20, 2021, 05:04:02 PM
I have frequently thought the UK has, in actual fact, been just another state of the USA but the TV coverage of today's inauguration just confirms it. Why should our TV schedules be shot to pieces to provide mass coverage of an event so far away. A cynic might think it's because the UK TV channels are secretly hoping for a mass firefight between armed Trump supporters and the National Guard but, of course, I'm not that cynical :angel:
Such extended TV coverage never seems to apply in the case of other countries swearing in a new President/Governor/Despot*
(I do like American Football, though)

*Delete as appropriate
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 20, 2021, 05:31:31 PM
" I'm not that cynical"

who says that would be cynical, when UK TV reporters are actually in the congress interviewing the rioters ?

personally, I'd have laughed myself silly if they'd been given a good dose of CS gas, much as reporters encouraging rioters in many other situations, Israel, Lebanon, Ulster, then moaning if they catch a rubber bullet.

but then, I'm a miserable old 'product of unmarried parents'  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on January 20, 2021, 05:51:27 PM
Quote from: class37025 on January 20, 2021, 05:31:31 PM
" I'm not that cynical"

who says that would be cynical, when UK TV reporters are actually in the congress interviewing the rioters ?

personally, I'd have laughed myself silly if they'd been given a good dose of CS gas, much as reporters encouraging rioters in many other situations, Israel, Lebanon, Ulster, then moaning if they catch a rubber bullet.

but then, I'm a miserable old 'product of unmarried parents'  :)

I have no time for the British media. Their role in our society is supposed to be to report news, ask questions and to get to the bottom of facts. Instead, they're constantly trying to push their own views, make news themselves and just provoke MP's, celebs, and other figures into blowing up to create a story.

The BBC will NOT be getting a new licence fee off me, and neither would any other media organisation receive money from me.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on January 20, 2021, 05:55:04 PM
Quote from: class37025 on January 20, 2021, 05:31:31 PM
" I'm not that cynical"

reporters encouraging rioters in many other situations, Israel, Lebanon, Ulster, then moaning if they catch a rubber bullet.


Why does the brilliant 'Drop The Dead Donkey' spring to mind?  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on January 20, 2021, 06:01:28 PM
Sad day. An end of 4 years of comedic inspiration. :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on January 20, 2021, 06:32:03 PM
I must admit that I switched channels to something else shortly agter it came on - specifically because I thought that something going badly wrong was the only reason for watching it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on January 20, 2021, 06:36:56 PM
Quote from: daffy on January 20, 2021, 06:01:28 PM
Sad day. An end of 4 years of comedic inspiration. :(

I agree, but if it were not for my faith I would be concerned that such a person was the commander in chief of one of the worlds most powerful armed forces.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on January 20, 2021, 06:40:33 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on January 20, 2021, 05:51:27 PM
Quote from: class37025 on January 20, 2021, 05:31:31 PM
" I'm not that cynical"

who says that would be cynical, when UK TV reporters are actually in the congress interviewing the rioters ?

personally, I'd have laughed myself silly if they'd been given a good dose of CS gas, much as reporters encouraging rioters in many other situations, Israel, Lebanon, Ulster, then moaning if they catch a rubber bullet.

but then, I'm a miserable old 'product of unmarried parents'  :)

I have no time for the British media. Their role in our society is supposed to be to report news, ask questions and to get to the bottom of facts. Instead, they're constantly trying to push their own views, make news themselves and just provoke MP's, celebs, and other figures into blowing up to create a story.

The BBC will NOT be getting a new licence fee off me, and neither would any other media organisation receive money from me.

Totally agree except that as long as it's a legal requirement to pay the licence fee I will comply, however I take every opportunity to  encourage the government to defund the BBC unless they change.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on January 20, 2021, 07:57:46 PM
Quote from: steve836 on January 20, 2021, 06:40:33 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on January 20, 2021, 05:51:27 PM
Quote from: class37025 on January 20, 2021, 05:31:31 PM
" I'm not that cynical"

who says that would be cynical, when UK TV reporters are actually in the congress interviewing the rioters ?

personally, I'd have laughed myself silly if they'd been given a good dose of CS gas, much as reporters encouraging rioters in many other situations, Israel, Lebanon, Ulster, then moaning if they catch a rubber bullet.

but then, I'm a miserable old 'product of unmarried parents'  :)

I have no time for the British media. Their role in our society is supposed to be to report news, ask questions and to get to the bottom of facts. Instead, they're constantly trying to push their own views, make news themselves and just provoke MP's, celebs, and other figures into blowing up to create a story.

The BBC will NOT be getting a new licence fee off me, and neither would any other media organisation receive money from me.

Totally agree except that as long as it's a legal requirement to pay the licence fee I will comply, however I take every opportunity to  encourage the government to defund the BBC unless they change.

I have no intention of breaking the law.

If you don't watch the BBC live or use the BBC website you don't legally need to purchase a licence. (It's a little more detailed than that  but that's the bare bones.)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 20, 2021, 09:21:35 PM
Back to my point (and I have no axe to grind with Trump or Biden as I see it as really none of our business who gets voted in), does American TV devote hours of coverage to the UK getting a new PM, for example? I ask out of complete ignorance.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on January 20, 2021, 10:39:24 PM
My bet is they don't, Mick. I have an idea we get all this American coverage because of this thing the politicians here call 'the special relationship' with the US. Maybe we had one once upon a while, but I would question whether such a thing exists these days. Or if it does, if it is of any real significance or import anymore. :hmmm:

What gets me is on UK television today the inauguration was shown on ITV, BBC1 and the BBC News channel. I wouldn't be surprised to find it was even being shown on BBC Parliament channel as well. That's just over doing it, though I turned off after the first few minutes and did something useful.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 21, 2021, 10:44:43 AM
And finally from me on the subject, whilst there are millions struggling to pay for the roof over their head and/or put food on the table, was there really any sense on spending millions on fireworks for the inauguration in the current climate?
Signed
A Party Pooper
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on January 21, 2021, 10:53:19 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on January 21, 2021, 10:44:43 AM
And finally from me on the subject, whilst there are millions struggling to pay for the roof over their head and/or put food on the table, was there really any sense on spending millions on fireworks for the inauguration in the current climate?
Signed
A Party Pooper

Fireworks....   that was the air defence system when they heard Trump was flying back  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 21, 2021, 11:17:16 AM
Quote from: Snowwolflair on January 21, 2021, 10:53:19 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on January 21, 2021, 10:44:43 AM
And finally from me on the subject, whilst there are millions struggling to pay for the roof over their head and/or put food on the table, was there really any sense on spending millions on fireworks for the inauguration in the current climate?
Signed
A Party Pooper

Fireworks....   that was the air defence system when they heard Trump was flying back  :D

I thought they'd scrambled some jets and, by mistake, sent up a jest
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on January 21, 2021, 11:58:54 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on January 21, 2021, 10:44:43 AM
And finally from me on the subject, whilst there are millions struggling to pay for the roof over their head and/or put food on the table, was there really any sense on spending millions on fireworks for the inauguration in the current climate?
Signed
A Party Pooper

People who work in firework factories need to eat too.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 21, 2021, 12:46:04 PM
Quote from: steve836 on January 21, 2021, 11:58:54 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on January 21, 2021, 10:44:43 AM
And finally from me on the subject, whilst there are millions struggling to pay for the roof over their head and/or put food on the table, was there really any sense on spending millions on fireworks for the inauguration in the current climate?
Signed
A Party Pooper

People who work in firework factories need to eat too.

Oh, that's all right, then ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 21, 2021, 05:30:06 PM
Humph

We in the Skyline household indulged in the pizza of a certain famous chain (the one that could also be played as a pub game) on Monday.

Blinking app played up, order failed, but bank app immediately informed me of the charge.

Today confirmed have actually been charged twice.

Used PayPal so at least can have a crack at recovery.

There is a head office number listed on PayPal (who encourage you to contact retailer first before doing a formal dispute), but they closed at 5 after I noticed the double charge.

Branch is of course open, but the, erm, employees said I should call back "when the manager gets in at 6".

Maybe this is the universe way of telling me to ditch junk food.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on January 21, 2021, 10:18:19 PM
We've had that issue a few times with the same chain. I find that if you kick off on the phone they sometimes refund both payments  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on January 21, 2021, 10:56:26 PM
Is the pizza chain specific to the West Country? We don't have one in the Midlands called darts.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on January 21, 2021, 11:49:58 PM
 :laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing:

You're on form today, Malc!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 22, 2021, 09:08:14 AM
 :laughabovepost:

Well as it happens said Pizza group were jolly nice about it and I have just had an e-Mail from PayPal saying I have been refunded.

Over to the Happy Thread  :thumbsup:

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 22, 2021, 10:02:46 AM
Quote from: Malc on January 21, 2021, 10:56:26 PM
Is the pizza chain specific to the West Country? We don't have one in the Midlands called darts.

Could be worse. You could order a pizza and get Skittles.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 28, 2021, 08:46:27 PM
Really rather miffed at myself.

Fitted all but one of the supplied etches to one of my Revolution Trains 92s.

Last, smallest "Polo Mint".....PING!

Never to be seen again  :'(

Have contacted the 92 support e-Mail for help.

I am a dingbat.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 28, 2021, 08:58:53 PM
Remove shoes/slippers and socks and walk round as much of the area as you can get to. Chances are you might find it :ouch:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on January 28, 2021, 09:02:57 PM
Buy a metal detector and scan the whole room  :thumbsup:









I have no idea if they're made of metal but it could be useful for something else later in life  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on January 28, 2021, 09:19:19 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on January 28, 2021, 08:58:53 PM
Remove shoes/slippers and socks

But check said shoes/slippers and socks very carefully when removing them - the 'Polo Mint' might be inside.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 28, 2021, 09:23:50 PM
As usual you lot respond with the expected mixture of mirth and useful advice I have come to love from this place.

And besides in an astonishing display of customer service, the rapid Revolution squad will have a new etch on its way to me tomorrow.

Seems I am destined not to spend much longer on the angry thread today  :thumbsup:

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 29, 2021, 10:46:22 AM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on January 28, 2021, 09:23:50 PM

Seems I am destined not to spend much longer on the angry thread today  :thumbsup:


All the more space for Alan @class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311)  :-X
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 29, 2021, 10:50:25 AM
OY !

I have been known to frequent the unhappy, and even happy threads ....

very occasionally.

HB says no more Bonios for you, bad @newportnobby  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on January 29, 2021, 10:53:31 AM
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 29, 2021, 10:55:21 AM
ha -  :censored: ha.

you just can't please some people  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 29, 2021, 11:05:24 AM
@Trainfish (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=262)
I really do wonder at your mental state if that duet sprang so quickly to mind, John :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 29, 2021, 11:09:14 AM
don't be so harsh on him, he had a delivery of beer by Herpes yesterday, so we all know he should be in a happy place. :smiley-laughing: :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on January 29, 2021, 11:26:45 AM
You can get some cream for that, allegedly.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on January 29, 2021, 11:40:25 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on January 29, 2021, 11:05:24 AM
@Trainfish (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=262)
I really do wonder at your mental state if that duet sprang so quickly to mind, John :worried:

I call it my lockdown state  :thumbsup:

Quote from: class37025 on January 29, 2021, 11:09:14 AM
don't be so harsh on him, he had a delivery of beer by Herpes yesterday, so we all know he should be in a happy place. :smiley-laughing: :beers:

I'm waiting on another, hopefully today so look out later  :goggleeyes:

Quote from: TrevL on January 29, 2021, 11:26:45 AM
You can get some cream for that, allegedly.

I can't find it on Pharmacy2u, do you know the proper name for it?  :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on January 29, 2021, 11:57:03 AM
I dunno what it's called, but I think it's the stuff they issue to Royal Fail delivery drivers.

Every time I'm expecting a Royal Fail delivery they seem to have vanished without trace.

:veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on January 31, 2021, 10:24:46 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on January 28, 2021, 08:58:53 PM
Remove shoes/slippers and socks and walk round as much of the area as you can get to. Chances are you might find it :ouch:

My (unintentional) method of finding dropped track pins...  :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on February 01, 2021, 11:37:02 AM
On 7th January, I ordered some items from a company in the UK, which were posted the following day. So far, so good. The items were delivered, by Hermes, ( :(), a few days later - to an address in the UK!  >:(. I contacted the seller on the 16th and informed them of this fact - and basically got the reply "sorry about that, we will post another lot within 2 days". On the 22nd January, (six days later, I am informed that the new order has been dispatched. Following an email sent to the company yesterday letting them know that nothing has been received, I have been told that they will refund my money, in 3 to 5 days, and if the items do finally arrive, I can  keep them, so not a bad result, although if the goods do not turn up, I have had €35.98 tied up for nothing for over 3 weeks. What has really annoyed me though, is that on 19th January, I placed an order with another company, (here in Ireland), with a value of €79.02. On checking the order status this morning, the order is shown as delivered, yet the courier website, (UPS this time), says that the goods have been in transit, in the UK, since 22nd January with no mention of getting to Ireland!  >:(. So, if the goods have been delivered - when and where and if the goods are still in the UK, why is my order shown as delivered?   >:(. Needless to say, I have sent a, rather polite, email to them this morning. Trouble is, all you get is the excuse that Brexit is creating problems - I mean, flippin' 'eck, companies and couriers have known about Brexit for four years!  :veryangry:. On top of everything else, it is grey, wet and miserable outside. I am off to light the fire, put the kettle on and then watch last weeks 'Death In Paradise'.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 01, 2021, 12:03:55 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on February 01, 2021, 11:37:02 AM
then watch last weeks 'Death In Paradise'.

Now I can see why this is in the 'Angry' thread :-X
Why torture yourself, David?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on February 01, 2021, 01:01:31 PM
But I am being tortured in a warm tropical 'Paradise'.  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on February 01, 2021, 01:45:54 PM
hope it's not like the winter of 1987,  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on February 01, 2021, 01:47:20 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on February 01, 2021, 11:37:02 AM
................it is grey, wet and miserable...............

Why did I immediately think of @class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311) when I read those words?  :P

EDIT: and before I can press enter there he is. Maybe that's why  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on February 01, 2021, 01:52:18 PM
you can go off people, you know  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on February 01, 2021, 02:34:39 PM
Quote from: class37025 on February 01, 2021, 01:52:18 PM
you can go off people, you know  :'(

That was one of my mum's favourite expressions.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on February 01, 2021, 02:50:40 PM
I don't think @class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311) is your mum though  :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on February 01, 2021, 02:54:44 PM
My granny used to say to the rest of her family in a sarcastic voice

"you are all very clever" :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Foxhound on February 03, 2021, 12:28:02 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on January 29, 2021, 11:05:24 AM
@Trainfish (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=262)
I really do wonder at your mental state if that duet sprang so quickly to mind, John :worried:

My problem is I've just been catching up on this thread and now I've got Peters & Lee earworm. Cheers John, I think?  :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on February 03, 2021, 12:36:47 PM
Yes, it is a bit of an earwormer that one. I eventually managed to lose it from my ear but by posting your response you've just put it right back where it was  :veryangry2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Foxhound on February 03, 2021, 12:39:46 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on February 03, 2021, 12:36:47 PM
Yes, it is a bit of an earwormer that one. I eventually managed to lose it from my ear but by posting your response you've just put it right back where it was  :veryangry2:

You're welcome.  :D :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on February 03, 2021, 12:48:43 PM
That's what I like about this forum - everybody is prepared to help each other.  ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on February 14, 2021, 10:21:30 PM
In the last 2 days I have received over 20 emails purporting to be from just about every anti virus company to tell me my licence has expired is is about to expire, some claim to have found numerous viruses on my system and various other calamities; this has been building up for over a week now, more emails each day.
It might be more believable if they used convincing email addresses!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on February 14, 2021, 10:49:19 PM
What's this Peters and Lee earworm?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on February 15, 2021, 09:10:24 AM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on February 14, 2021, 10:21:30 PM
In the last 2 days I have received over 20 emails


I have received an email just about every day for the last two weeks letting me know I have won a prize. The emails are quite well done and very similar in appearance. The majority of the 'prizes' are vouchers from the likes of Amazon and Argos. I mark every one as Spam, but they are all from different email addresses and like the ones received by Mike, the emails come from not very convincing email addresses.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 15, 2021, 09:20:05 AM
Just do what I do, mate.

If me home phone rings, I don't answer it.

If me mobile rings and I don't recognise the number, I don't answer it.

Simple, and I sleep at night  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on February 15, 2021, 09:25:50 AM
Quote from: dannyboy on February 15, 2021, 09:10:24 AM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on February 14, 2021, 10:21:30 PM
In the last 2 days I have received over 20 emails


I have received an email just about every day for the last two weeks letting me know I have won a prize. The emails are quite well done and very similar in appearance. The majority of the 'prizes' are vouchers from the likes of Amazon and Argos. I mark every one as Spam, but they are all from different email addresses and like the ones received by Mike, the emails come from not very convincing email addresses.

They tend to come in waves as a new scam text is written and you'll get lots of emails with the same subject or content. When they make it through the automated spam filter I add a new mail rule to check for key phrases in the subject line and move them to the spam folder.

Usually the subject lines are the same or have a long enough common sequence of words to do a simple compare as a mail rule to zap them.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on February 17, 2021, 10:16:12 AM
Still waiting for the boards to cover my layout base. Ordered them from the big DIY store Leroy Merlin on the 9th, thinking they'd just send them from the local store about 20km away and they estimated the 11th as a delivery date. Still nothing and no tracking information a week later. I contacted them today and they claimed the courier was waiting for a response from me, despite never contacting me in any way. Apparently I should get a call within 72 hours, which usually means they've lost it somewhere.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on February 17, 2021, 11:35:25 PM
Absolutely hacked off. I have looked on and off for years for a particular book that has been out of print and rarely comes up for sale. Even when it does, it is usually way too expensive. It is a book on building the Martin Evans, 5" gauge, Simplex 0-6-0 tank engine.

I started building one with my father about 40 years ago and we got the chassis running on air, with the smokebox, smokebox door, funnel, blast pipe, blower nozzle, lubricator and axle water pump all built and fitted. Then we stalled when it came to the boiler.

Some years ago, I started thinking about finishing it off, but the book with the detailed instructions and measurements (a lot is missing from the drawings) had been lost.

One has been on sale for a while for £125, but I am not willing to pay that.

At the weekend I found one up for auction, ending today, and thought that I must look out for it. I even set the alarm on my phone to remind me, with plenty of time beforehand. Then I left my phone upstairs and missed the end of the auction.

I'd be annoyed enough with myself for that, but what really makes it worse was my son coming down with my phone, saying that the alarm had been going off for ages and my wife saying that she'd heard it (she's in bed ill), but thought it was my son's phone.

It had been going for 20 minutes and I'd only just missed the end of the auction, which  finished at £46!

Arggghhh!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on February 17, 2021, 11:58:25 PM
I know it's too late now but consider using something like Gixen (https://www.gixen.com/index.php) next time  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on February 18, 2021, 01:36:12 AM
I have looked at snipers before, but have stuck to doing it myself. I normally tend to put my own bid, to the maximum I am willing, in the last 5 seconds. This time it went wrong. I can live with it, but it was just the annoyance that having made the mistake of leaving my phone upstairs, both my son and my wife heard it going off, for some time, but didn't think to let me know!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 18, 2021, 09:41:05 AM
I notice Alan @class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311) has not posted in here for over 2 weeks. Does the team think the crusty curmudgeon has chilled out more than a little?  :uneasy: ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on February 18, 2021, 09:57:14 AM
Quote from: stevewalker on February 18, 2021, 01:36:12 AM
I have looked at snipers before, but have stuck to doing it myself. I normally tend to put my own bid, to the maximum I am willing, in the last 5 seconds. This time it went wrong. I can live with it, but it was just the annoyance that having made the mistake of leaving my phone upstairs, both my son and my wife heard it going off, for some time, but didn't think to let me know!

I tend to decide what an item is worth to me, deduct the p&p being charged, and then place that as my bet, then leave it.

two chances, first is that I get the item either for my max bid, or less, second is I don't get it.

seen too many cases where bidders get the frenzy and pay stupid amounts for something.

I remember some years ago a used Farish class 25 going up and up, then finally going for around £70 plus postage ....

trouble was Hattons were flogging them new at £45 plus postage. :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on February 18, 2021, 09:58:08 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on February 18, 2021, 09:41:05 AM
I notice Alan @class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311) has not posted in here for over 2 weeks. Does the team think the crusty curmudgeon has chilled out more than a little?  :uneasy: ;)


HONEY, I'M HOME  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Foxhound on February 18, 2021, 10:41:06 AM
Parcelfarce.

:veryangry:

Beer delivery due yesterday. No notification of when they were coming, even though that was supposed to happen. Got a text to say delivery had failed.
Wife watched them pull up, get out of van, then drive away again without coming to any houses.

Unbelievable.

They are due back today. I am working from home and can see the front door from here....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on February 18, 2021, 10:43:20 AM
just as long as @Trainfish (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=262) doesn't start with the Peters and Lee again  :'(

or I might be Peter, Paul n Mary  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Foxhound on February 18, 2021, 10:50:34 AM
Quote from: class37025 on February 18, 2021, 10:43:20 AM
just as long as @Trainfish (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=262) doesn't start with the Peters and Lee again  :'(

or I might be Peter, Paul n Mary  :smiley-laughing:

We're all with you on that one.... ;) :smiley-laughing:



Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on February 18, 2021, 11:47:41 AM
I have a set limit, but normally only put it in the final seconds - on the basis that my limit may be higher than other bids and I don't want to leave time for someone to reconsider and raise their bid higher than I am willing to pay. This time it went wrong.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on February 18, 2021, 12:33:30 PM
If your limit is your limit, then it doesn't matter when you place the bid, at the start or the end. If that's the maximum you're prepared to pay then there's no need for automated programs.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on February 18, 2021, 12:46:13 PM
It does make a difference.

If my limit is 40 and someone else's is 35, then I will win by bidding at the end. If I bid at the start, they may decide, over the period of the auction, that they'd perhaps set their limit too low and increase it to outbid me and I'd have lost.

It is quite common to see that the same person has increased their maximum bid a couple of times (you can't see it directly, but you can infer it from timings) and realise that if their competitor had waited until the last moment, they would have won it - and for a much lower price.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on February 18, 2021, 12:51:14 PM
Quote from: stevewalker on February 18, 2021, 12:46:13 PM
It does make a difference.

If my limit is 40 and someone else's is 35, then I will win by bidding at the end. If I bid at the start, they may decide, over the period of the auction, that they'd perhaps set their limit too low and increase it to outbid me and I'd have lost.

It is quite common to see that the same person has increased their maximum bid a couple of times (you can't see it directly, but you can infer it from timings) and realise that if their competitor had waited until the last moment, they would have won it - and for a much lower price.

It doesn't make a difference. If that's your maximum, then that's your maximum. If they're increasing their bid later on, then that wasn't their maximum.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on February 18, 2021, 01:29:02 PM
Quote from: class37025 on February 18, 2021, 10:43:20 AM
just as long as @Trainfish (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=262) doesn't start with the Peters and Lee again  :'(

or I might be Peter, Paul n Mary  :smiley-laughing:

I have this one somewhere on vinyl.......................

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on February 18, 2021, 01:39:12 PM
that's just too much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVEATF7VNTk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVEATF7VNTk)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on February 18, 2021, 01:49:09 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on February 18, 2021, 12:51:14 PM
Quote from: stevewalker on February 18, 2021, 12:46:13 PM
It does make a difference.

If my limit is 40 and someone else's is 35, then I will win by bidding at the end. If I bid at the start, they may decide, over the period of the auction, that they'd perhaps set their limit too low and increase it to outbid me and I'd have lost.

It is quite common to see that the same person has increased their maximum bid a couple of times (you can't see it directly, but you can infer it from timings) and realise that if their competitor had waited until the last moment, they would have won it - and for a much lower price.

It doesn't make a difference. If that's your maximum, then that's your maximum. If they're increasing their bid later on, then that wasn't their maximum.

Except that by me bidding at the last moment, they don't have the option to re-consider and increase the maximum that they have input. My figure is fixed, but theirs may not be quite as fixed, by denying them the opportunity to see that they've been outbid early enough to change their bid, I prevent them doing so.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on February 18, 2021, 02:23:16 PM
Then that wasn't their maximum.

If you want to think that using that technique or software gives you an edge then carry on, but the reality is that if they're increasing their bid, then that wasn't their maximum.

The price I bid at is the maximum, thought through, and considering how much I want/need an item. It doesn't matter if someone like yourself has sniping software, that's what I'm prepared to pay.

Out of interest, do you have to pay for the sniping software or does it come with ads, or do they sell your details on for targeted advertising?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on February 18, 2021, 02:37:13 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on February 18, 2021, 02:23:16 PM
Then that wasn't their maximum.

If you want to think that using that technique or software gives you an edge then carry on, but the reality is that if they're increasing their bid, then that wasn't their maximum.

That is rather the point. They have entered *a* maximum bid and the auction site will bid for them up to that value. If they are outbid, they may think about it for a bit and decide to increase the figure for another chance. If I have bid my maximum at the last moment and it is higher than the figure that they have entered up to that moment, they then have no time to reconsider and enter a new figure. Many people enter *a* maximum, not their *maximum* and last minute sniping can give you an advantage over them.

As for sniping software, I don't use it. If I did, I wouldn't have missed the bid through my alarm going off elsewhere!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on February 18, 2021, 02:45:15 PM
Maximum is a definitive. It's not a maximum if they then increase it.

You can't have 'a' maximum and then increase it. That's just an interim bid.

Also, if you bid at the last minute you could potentially lose the lot to someone bidding the same amount who gets their bid in a few moments before you.

I win plenty and lose plenty, all without getting stressed about trying to 'beat' the system as it were.

I also win A LOT by getting in communication with the seller before bids are placed. I picked up a lovely pair of DCC locos for £92 including p&p about an hour after he listed them. So, sometimes, you snooze you lose.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on February 18, 2021, 03:04:00 PM
There are two different maximums. There is the figure they have entered into (say) Ebay, which is *a* maximum, but that may not be as much as they are actually willing to pay and *their* maximum may be higher.

The point is that many bidders enter a lower maximum than they are actually willing to pay and only increase it if they find that they are being outbid or they start with a figure in mind, but then get caught up in a bidding frenzy and increase it when they are outbid. By me bidding at the last minute, they do not have the time to make a change.

For instance someone bids £20 on a £10 starting bid. It sits there at £10. If a day or an hour before the auction ends, I put in £25, it will go to £21. They may then try increasing their *Ebay* maximum to £22, £25, £30 and will then get it for £26.

If however they bid £20 on a £10 starting bid, it sits there at £10 and 5 seconds before the auction ends, I put in £25, I will get it for £21. They just won't have time to increase their figure.

It gives me no advantage over someone that really did put in the maximum they were willing to pay at the start, but it does over the (many) who are more hesitant and start with a lower figure, that they think that they can get it for.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on February 18, 2021, 03:07:55 PM
I understand what both of you are saying and agree with both to an extent. My maximum on a Monday could be different to my maximum on a Tuesday for many reasons. If you take the word maximum literally then @emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604) is absolutely correct. I try to use Gixen partly so I don't forget to bid, partly so I'm not tempted to change my 'maximum' from Monday and also to not show others that I'm interested enough to place a bid. I have also like you spoken with a seller before the item has ended and struck a deal. Totally against eBay rules to do it through their site but if you want something badly enough you'll do it right?

As for your previous questions regarding a snipe tool I can only answer regarding Gixen as that's all I remember using. You have a choice, you can pay or not pay. If you use the unpaid version then you have to wait 20 seconds for it to log you in. That's the only difference I see but I'm sure there will be more. I don't see ads when using it. I have no idea if they sell your details on but then that's what my junk email folder is for, I get as many junk emails as I do proper emails but I just empty it every couple of days, I don't let it stress me  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on February 18, 2021, 03:13:57 PM
Hi John, it's within FleaBay rules to strike a deal, as long as it's completed within FleaBay.

To be honest, the last minute bidders play INTO my hands. The vendor sees no bids for four days, I offer him a 'reasonable' amount. Job done. All the last minute bidders see is 'This item is no longer available'.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on February 18, 2021, 03:41:47 PM
@Trainfish (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=262) , this Gixen thing, can you set it to bid at any moment/time, or will it only do last minute?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on February 18, 2021, 03:50:09 PM
You're absolutely right, as long as it's done within eBay. But, we're all human (well, maybe not a couple of non-humans on the forum) and if a seller prefers to sell away from ebay then 99% of people aren't going to say no are they? That includes me of course. Yes, it can play into your hands too especially if they have started the auction at too high a price and nobody submits the starting price in the first 5, 7 days or whatever. I start my auctions at 99p or £4.99 which always entices bidders and watchers in.

I have just read that you can only have 4 winning bids per month on the free version by the way. It looks like you can increase the timing of your bid but only up to 15 seconds (default is 5 seconds I think). I'm not sure why anyone would want to do that though and to me it would be just too tempting to up your bid if you see your snipe outbid with 15 seconds to go.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on February 19, 2021, 07:09:33 PM
 :censored: Virgin..............................

still sending me silly e-mails about how they are adding services to my 'package' ....

I can tell you, for certain, that if beardie touches my 'package', he'll feel my size nine where he will know it !!

what do you have to do to get rid of these idiots.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on March 05, 2021, 12:54:00 PM
My middle son has hardly been out of the house for months and so has not been wearing many outdoor clothes. Shortly I have to take him to school for a Covid test, before they return next week.

He has grown out of some clothes, so only has school trousers or jeans available at the moment, so four pairs. Two pairs are very dirty and the two "clean" pairs have been covered with cat hairs after they were put aside. Therefore he needed something washing.

My wife asked him to put a couple of pairs in the washing machine last night, which he did, but then she forgot to start the machine - which I only noticed a short while ago, with just enough time to run a fast wash and then to tumble dry.

I walked in when the washer stopped - only to find that for some unknown reason, it has decided upon now to fail to release the door! This happened a few years ago and nothing would induce it to unlock, other than unplugging and leaving for hours before powering it up again :(

We are now waiting for a hand-washed pair to tumble dry and hope that we can just make it to the appointment in time.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on March 05, 2021, 01:12:46 PM
The boiler packs up and the plumber can call tomorrow, between Christmas and New Year, and fit a new one. The mixer tap starts to play up on the shower and they manage to not turn up 3 times in 3 weeks. It's almost like plumbers are only interested in big ticket work.....
Apologies to any plumbers on here but since moving to our current abode that is 5 plumbers we've been through, all with the same attitude and my parents suffer form exactly the same atrocious service unless it's a big job.
Do any plumbers exist that are actually prepared to do small jobs?
He's coming Monday now which will be his last chance before his Trust a Trader profile gets a visit!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 05, 2021, 08:21:45 PM
Quote from: thebrighton on March 05, 2021, 01:12:46 PM
It's almost like plumbers are only interested in big ticket work.....
Do any plumbers exist that are actually prepared to do small jobs?

In my experience in this area of Lancs it's not just plumbers. I have several jobs for an electrician but they either can't be arsed to return calls or tell me they're busy for the next month or so on big jobs. I appreciate they want that sort of work but the smaller jobs get frozen out and they'll need them when the bigger jobs dry up
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on March 05, 2021, 09:11:40 PM
About 3 or 4 years ago one of my hot water tank heaters failed, plumber came in and changed the complete tank with some waffle about the tank was old and removing the immersion stood a chance of damaging the tank; a few months back an immersion failed again, different plumber, made sure power to it was off, undid a couple of screws, pulled out just the element, checked the thermostast setting on the  new one, pushed it in, replaced the screws, job done. Luckily the flat is rented so the landlord got the bills, however the rent goes up each year.

Had a look on Checkatrade, first bloke is bottom of the list, shoddy work and overcharging, but some people still use him. (Wouldn't be surprised if the building management get a kick back)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on March 05, 2021, 09:39:26 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on March 05, 2021, 08:21:45 PM
I have several jobs for an electrician but they either can't be arsed ...........

I'm not telling you what my trade is then. I agree about plumbers though. Always say they're too busy etc and then our old plumber suddenly appears on The Chase one evening! I'm glad he didn't win  :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 05, 2021, 11:25:17 PM
Isn't that show recorded on a Sunday?  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 06, 2021, 09:27:41 AM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on March 05, 2021, 09:11:40 PM

Had a look on Checkatrade, first bloke is bottom of the list, shoddy work and overcharging, but some people still use him.

I have doubts such sites as 'Checkatrade' are policed and updated frequently enough. The only one I use is 'Safe Trader' which is monitored/recommended by Trading Standards
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on March 06, 2021, 09:45:34 AM
From a Tradesmans point of view:

A lot of us got stung in the lockdowns in the last year. I've lost somewhere in the region of 40% of my company income. As a small (just me) Limited company I got VERY little help fron the government. The wife and I had to survive on a combined income of £500/month. Despite no income, and other factors we still couldn't get income support.

Many tradespeople were encouraged to be Limited companies by a previous government as Limited companies are more 'visible' to the Government and HMRC.

Now, most of us are scrabbling to play catch up and to recoup losses. Most of us have robbed savings and used credit cards, and now need to recover.

If you're given a choice of larger jobs (steadier income), and small jobs (more sporadic/inefficient income) what would you do?

On the CheckaTwit, SafePlonka, side of things, I've never come across a quality tradesperson that needed such a site.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 06, 2021, 11:13:09 AM
@stevewalker (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5329) i had an embarrassing visit from a washing machine service agent when the door on our washing machine wouldn't open. He came in, pressed the child lock that I had accidentally pushed, grinned at me and left.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on March 06, 2021, 11:25:26 AM
Quote from: emjaybee on March 06, 2021, 09:45:34 AM

If you're given a choice of larger jobs (steadier income), and small jobs (more sporadic/inefficient income) what would you do?


Covid has only been here a year, not decades.....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 06, 2021, 11:56:50 AM
Quote from: Malc on March 06, 2021, 11:13:09 AM
@stevewalker (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5329) i had an embarrassing visit from a washing machine service agent when the door on our washing machine wouldn't open. He came in, pressed the child lock that I had accidentally pushed, grinned at me and left.

Given my luck with traders I'd still have copped for a call out fee ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 06, 2021, 03:24:53 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on March 06, 2021, 11:56:50 AM
Quote from: Malc on March 06, 2021, 11:13:09 AM
@stevewalker (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5329) i had an embarrassing visit from a washing machine service agent when the door on our washing machine wouldn't open. He came in, pressed the child lock that I had accidentally pushed, grinned at me and left.

Given my luck with traders I'd still have copped for a call out fee ::)
it was an insurance job. We have insurance with D & G on the washer. Repair or replace.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 06, 2021, 11:50:43 PM
Quote from: Malc on March 06, 2021, 11:13:09 AM
@stevewalker (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5329) i had an embarrassing visit from a washing machine service agent when the door on our washing machine wouldn't open. He came in, pressed the child lock that I had accidentally pushed, grinned at me and left.

I would never admit to that  :no: ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on March 07, 2021, 06:01:03 PM
I once drove 180 miles, to find out why a customer's test equipment wasn't working..


They'd lent against THEIR big red safety switch on the wall. ,


A night in the hotel, drove  180 miles back to base..


Yes they got the bill. Though I got nothing for it but my normal wages.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on March 07, 2021, 10:20:50 PM
Quote from: Malc on March 06, 2021, 11:13:09 AM
@stevewalker (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5329) i had an embarrassing visit from a washing machine service agent when the door on our washing machine wouldn't open. He came in, pressed the child lock that I had accidentally pushed, grinned at me and left.

Not that unfortunately. When the cycle is started, the lock symbol lights up. At the end of the cycle, the symbol flashes for a couple of minutes and then the door unlocks. If the child lock is on, it flashes throughout instead. In this case, the cycle ended, but the symbol stayed permanently on and nothing progressed from there.

It has happened before, but not for over a year. This time was just about the most inconvenient moment possible

After being left off for a few hours, everything has gone back to normal and it has done a few washes with no problem.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on March 11, 2021, 11:28:53 PM
I am very angry today with my wifes doctors, she is 60 and has not heard from them till today regarding a covid vaccination. She had a letter from the NHS but we were unable to get a appointment near to us, the letter said if you can not find one convenient to you wait for your doctors to contact you. She is 60 , she had a stroke sept 2018 so she is vulnerable and she works at a school. We managed to make a appointment for a jab on Sunday the 21st of March, still over a week off. Today she received a letter from her doctors saying they had been trying to contact her about a covid vaccination, with a link for a site, which locked up when we tried to see what was available. The letter was dated 22 Feb, 17 days ago, so they have really tried hard to contact her. So was it slow snail mail or did they not post it for a few days ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: honestjudge on March 12, 2021, 08:25:13 AM
You could contact your local patient advice and liaison service and complain. You can find them on the NHS website.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 12, 2021, 10:18:28 AM
There are problems with Royal Mail due to staffing shortages. We had a birthday card delivered two weeks after it was posted. My GP uses texts to keep in touch.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 12, 2021, 12:43:16 PM
not happy today

council tax letter arrived today and guess what ?

increases for police ...
can't remember the last time I saw any

increase for county council ...
who last year managed to screw up the highways maintainance contract, and was fined 4 million pound by the high court
oh, and they still can't manage to repair pot holes

oh, and also county council increase for social care ...
would be great, but they seem to be determined to close most of the day care centres and youth centres.

district council increase as well ...
not exactly sure why, no details

no increase for the town council though, mind you the help point has been closed for nearly a year, no point in applying for a bus pass and the local route cancelled because of problems with parked cars

so, all in all another £80 a year for even less services.
wish my pensions had gone up this year by that much, but no chance.

by the way, this will take a while to possibly be approved, as I'm on report..

since then have posted three posts, but removed two of them when they were still awaiting moderation after over 24 hours.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on March 12, 2021, 05:01:24 PM
 Am not blaming Royal Mail, for crying out loud the letter came from about 15mins walk from our house, they could have put the letter on the back of a snail and it would have been quicker. It was probably sat in a tray somewhere waiting to be posted.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 12, 2021, 09:15:37 PM
Quote from: class37025 on March 12, 2021, 12:43:16 PM
since then have posted three posts, but removed two of them when they were still awaiting moderation after over 24 hours.

[gmod]Highly unlikely as it is rare for me to be 'off duty' for that amount of time and I've seen none awaiting approval[/gmod]
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on March 13, 2021, 07:04:41 AM
Quote from: lil chris on March 12, 2021, 05:01:24 PM
Am not blaming Royal Mail, for crying out loud the letter came from about 15mins walk from our house, they could have put the letter on the back of a snail and it would have been quicker. It was probably sat in a tray somewhere waiting to be posted.
The letter of course would take a longer route, for instance If I were to put a letter in the post box outside my house for the neighbour . It would collected, taken to the area post office 5 miles away, then loaded in a lorry, taken to the nearest sorting office 25miles away.
Sorted, brought back to the area post office, split Into runs, then sent out.. a 50 mile round trip to go 10 yards, and I'm sure many areas have a longer route outside cities.

PS Last week my sister's NHS letter was sent to the wrong house, luckily to the address of some who knows her nearby.
PPS I'm awaiting a parcel sent via royal mail, the tracker shows "sorry there has been a delay"
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 13, 2021, 09:41:07 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on March 12, 2021, 09:15:37 PM
Quote from: class37025 on March 12, 2021, 12:43:16 PM
since then have posted three posts, but removed two of them when they were still awaiting moderation after over 24 hours.

Highly unlikely as it is rare for me to be 'off duty' for that amount of time and I've seen none awaiting approval

sorry Mick, but one still showing in 'my posts' made March 11, 2021, 05:18:31 PM as Note: This message is awaiting approval by a moderator. 

I was surprised, as I know you are usually on the ball.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 13, 2021, 10:14:50 AM
I've checked back on your posts and there isn't one for 11th March, Alan.
That suggests it's been removed although I can see no sign of it anywhere ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 13, 2021, 10:19:57 AM
Mick, PM sent with copy / paste of the relevant post as on 'my posts' for your info.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on March 13, 2021, 10:33:40 AM
It's probably got lost in the post  :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 13, 2021, 10:44:08 AM
Mick,
just checked 'Forum' - general discussion and found this listed

not sure why this is happening. (Awaiting Approval)
Started by class37025

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by class37025

regards
alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on March 13, 2021, 11:03:25 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on March 13, 2021, 10:33:40 AM
It's probably got lost in the post  :doh:

Or it's in a Customs depot waiting to see if VAT/Duty is applicable.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on March 13, 2021, 11:31:03 AM
Quote from: dannyboy on March 13, 2021, 11:03:25 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on March 13, 2021, 10:33:40 AM
It's probably got lost in the post  :doh:

Or it's in a Customs depot waiting to see if VAT/Duty is applicable.

It is something to do with the sintax of your posting  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 13, 2021, 11:36:08 AM
Quote from: Snowwolflair on March 13, 2021, 11:31:03 AM
Quote from: dannyboy on March 13, 2021, 11:03:25 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on March 13, 2021, 10:33:40 AM
It's probably got lost in the post  :doh:

Or it's in a Customs depot waiting to see if VAT/Duty is applicable.

It is something to do with the sintax of your posting  :D

They're taxing sin now? :o
Oh, heck :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on March 13, 2021, 11:58:12 AM
This time next week I could be bankrupt if that's the case  :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 13, 2021, 11:59:34 AM
you should be so lucky  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: steve836 on March 13, 2021, 02:45:44 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on March 13, 2021, 11:36:08 AM
Quote from: Snowwolflair on March 13, 2021, 11:31:03 AM
Quote from: dannyboy on March 13, 2021, 11:03:25 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on March 13, 2021, 10:33:40 AM
It's probably got lost in the post  :doh:

Or it's in a Customs depot waiting to see if VAT/Duty is applicable.

It is something to do with the sintax of your posting  :D

They're taxing sin now? :o
Oh, heck :worried:

Perhaps it's not such a bad idea, the bible tells us "the wages of sin are death". Think how many politicians we could get rid of.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 13, 2021, 02:49:55 PM
Quote from: steve836 on March 13, 2021, 02:45:44 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on March 13, 2021, 11:36:08 AM
Quote from: Snowwolflair on March 13, 2021, 11:31:03 AM
Quote from: dannyboy on March 13, 2021, 11:03:25 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on March 13, 2021, 10:33:40 AM
It's probably got lost in the post  :doh:

Or it's in a Customs depot waiting to see if VAT/Duty is applicable.

It is something to do with the sintax of your posting  :D

They're taxing sin now? :o
Oh, heck :worried:

Perhaps it's not such a bad idea, the bible tells us "the wages of sin are death". Think how many politicians we could get rid of.

you'll be joining me on report if you say things like that  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Yet_Another on March 13, 2021, 03:47:53 PM
Quote from: steve836 on March 13, 2021, 02:45:44 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on March 13, 2021, 11:36:08 AM
Quote from: Snowwolflair on March 13, 2021, 11:31:03 AM
Quote from: dannyboy on March 13, 2021, 11:03:25 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on March 13, 2021, 10:33:40 AM
It's probably got lost in the post  :doh:

Or it's in a Customs depot waiting to see if VAT/Duty is applicable.

It is something to do with the sintax of your posting  :D

They're taxing sin now? :o
Oh, heck :worried:

Perhaps it's not such a bad idea, the bible tells us "the wages of sin are death". Think how many politicians we could get rid of.
But the Bible also tells us: "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone". So good luck with that.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 18, 2021, 10:34:28 AM
SWMBO had to go up to the local hospital yesterday for a chest x-ray, should have been the day before but she wasn't well enough.

so, we drag up there, she goes in, has the x-ray and comes home.
this morning a phone call from the x-ray dept.

Can I speak to mrs xxxxxx ?

sorry, she'd not up yet, she had a bad night

ohh

can I help you ?

who are you ?

her husband

oh, it's x-ray dept at PRH, we need her in today for a CT scan.

why? is there a problem with the x-ray she had yesterday.

I can't discuss that

let me guess, a shadow on her lung

err

she had TB Spinal Meningitis as a child, and the shadow has been there ever since. it is on her records.

I don't have her records. can you get her here for 2.00 pm ?

yes, but I'm surprised you haven't phoned before

pardon ?
well, she had a chest x-ray with you ten weeks ago, the shadow will have been on that one, but no one phoned about it then.

I can't comment. 2.00 pm then

click..brrrrr

is it any wonder the NHS is stretched to breaking point and has huge waiting lists ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 18, 2021, 03:56:23 PM
update

SWMBO attended at the due time and place, seen quickly, wasn't too sure about the scanner thing, but staff were very reassuring, and all done with no problem.

so, as usual, front line staff 11/10

pen pushers 0- / 10

if only they spent more on the proper staff, and less on the pen pushers, things would be so much better. :thumbsup:

especially as it appears, with all the pen pushers they've got, they still don't seem to read the patients records ! >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 18, 2021, 08:44:35 PM
It's highly likely your caller was just an X-ray 'photographer' and they know nothing of hospital records or anything other than taking the 'snap'. I've lost count of the number of times they just shrug and say 'I only take 'em - I don't translate 'em'.
From bitter experience I also rate the office very lowly as against 'hands on' staff.
I do hope Mrs class37025 has not been too upset by all this.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 18, 2021, 08:58:12 PM
luckily, SWMBO is , like me, a firm supporter of the two rules ...

rule 1 - those that can , do
those that can't teach or become managers

rule 2 - those who think they can, but can't, become managers or admin staff, where they can do more damage, with much less effort.

the radiographer she saw today was, as the one she saw yesterday, great, understanding, explained everything, and made sure she understood and was happy with what was happening.

obviously, I was sat in the car park, as under the present circumstances, patients have to go in by themselves, we can understand that.

so she is happy, but I wonder who had to give up the chance of a CT scan because she was called in for one, most probably / hopefully with no need.

I just hope that any delay caused does not mean more problems for the person who could have had the scan today, if she had not been called in.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on March 18, 2021, 09:58:47 PM
Quote from: class37025 on March 18, 2021, 03:56:23 PM
update

SWMBO attended at the due time and place, seen quickly, wasn't too sure about the scanner thing, but staff were very reassuring, and all done with no problem.

so, as usual, front line staff 11/10

pen pushers 0- / 10

if only they spent more on the proper staff, and less on the pen pushers, things would be so much better. :thumbsup:

especially as it appears, with all the pen pushers they've got, they still don't seem to read the patients records ! >:(

I read a report a few years ago that was penned by a front line senior consultant in the NHS. He wrote it shortly after the government of the day had been berated by all and sundry for the usual 'underfunding' headlines.

He said that if everyone did their job properly; the cleaners, admin, management, nurses, doctors, you name it, there was more than enough money to go around and then some.

He said that the financial wastage came from all the errors, slipshod work, carelessness, poor record keeping and general muck ups that meant stuff had to be rectified and re-done.

[Don't shoot me, I'm only the piano player.]
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Railwaygun on March 18, 2021, 11:21:51 PM
Quote from: class37025 on March 18, 2021, 03:56:23 PM
update

SWMBO attended at the due time and place, seen quickly, wasn't too sure about the scanner thing, but staff were very reassuring, and all done with no problem.

so, as usual, front line staff 11/10

pen pushers 0- / 10

if only they spent more on the proper staff, and less on the pen pushers, things would be so much better. :thumbsup:

especially as it appears, with all the pen pushers they've got, they still don't seem to read the patients records ! >:(

A CT scan reveals much more about a shadow ( ie a 3D image) than a plain ( Front to back image) .

TB is common, but so are other problems.

N ( 32yrs at NHS couch-face)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 19, 2021, 08:11:11 PM
SWMBO had a call from a very nice lady this afternoon, asking if she would prefer a telephone consult, or a face-to-face consult with the consultant.

she chose a telephone one, having noted that the two times she had gone up for x-rays there were no sanitisers etc at the entrance she used !

so, monday afternoon she will be called ....

but

shortly after her GP phoned to see how she was, and explained that there is the chance that what showed on the CT scan MIGHT be lung cancer.

no explanation as to why this did not show 8 - 10 weeks ago when she had her last x-ray, so I'm guessing/ hoping it's the shadow on the lung from her TB.

so, we are in for a great weekend, but hopefully all will be allayed monday.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on March 21, 2021, 10:11:59 AM
So this is half a rant and half a good ending / lesson learnt.

Due to the rant part, doesn't really belong anywhere but the "Angry" thread.

I had one of those 60 mins yesterday. You know, where the world is against you?

Set out to do weekly supply run.

Almost immediately came up behind a Lycra clad cyclist. That's fine, they are fairly common out here and have the right to use the road etc etc.

Waited until it was safe and overtook him as if he was a car. Few bends later, come up to temporary lights.

But when he (a member of the "Sloth cycling club") arrived behind me, he kept right on going. Through the red light, and onto the cordoned-off section of the road.

That's naughty, but of course when the lights did change I was once again stuck behind him. Yeah the engine was revved a bit harder passing him (safely) that time.

Honestly some times I think the dash cam I have prevents me doing silly things as much as it records others being daft.

Then when I get to the car-park of a well known supermarket, reverse into a space, next to an older guy just closing his boot.

Said older guy then comes round the side of his car, and opens the passenger door. Into my car.

I know he made contact because I heard it before I saw it. Not best please I wait until he moves away and go to check. No damage (he got the handle, so less chance of a dent). I made a point of checking very obviously.

Not obviously enough as it seems, cos whilst I was getting bags from my boot, he did it AGAIN. Thankfully, again, no damage.

Now I had a choice. Do I say something and risk all sorts of hassle because it's COVID world, he is old and I am young and I know how it looks. Or do I let him get away with it?

I choose to wait with my car until he leaves (removing some bird poop with some wipes I have for such a job) to make sure he actually doesn't damage my car, and witness if he does.

Anyway, he is dithering. And it turns out it's because he is (or at least he thinks he is) prevented from getting in his drivers seat because of a small car on the other side. I doubt this very much because all cars are nearly within their lines, it's just that his is a stupid soft-reader thing. With dents.

Anyway, he tells the young woman as much when she gets back. At this point I would definitely have got involved had he became aggressive or rude, but she just rolled her eyes and drove off.

Humph!

Inside supermarket the usual lack of any adherence to social distancing (save for masks) adds to my dark mood. Then the self-scan checkout:

Flags me for an age check (normally this place clears such things remotely, which works much better)

Chooses me for a random bag check

Refuses to print to fuel voucher I am entitled to (and that had swayed my choice in purchasing Mini Skyline some new cloths)

Each of the above results in a wait for the staff to return to clear the issue.

At this point I could have lost my cool save for the actually very polite, friendly and helpful young lady who assisted me in obtaining my voucher from the customer service desk. She was also sympathetic to me car experiences.

It was that last point (combined with me being able to avoid shouting matches with the aforementioned fools) that saw me head home relatively calm, with all I came out for, rather than in a police car!

Stay safe all

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 21, 2021, 10:37:35 AM
It does, unfortunately, happen each visit to the supermarket for me and I'm sure I leave with blood pressure 50% higher than when I entered the car park. I fail to see why anyone reverses into a space as they then have to cart their shopping bags down the length of their car to try and put them in a boot with no space as another  :censored: has parked behind them waaayyy too closely.

Sadly the only means to avoid all the stress is to have shopping delivered and I avoid this.........

(a) because it gets me out of the 'bunker' once a week
(b) I'd like to think those less able than I can better use the delivery slot
(c) because I want to choose my own comestibles and not rely on anyone else picking for me
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on March 21, 2021, 10:41:04 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on March 21, 2021, 10:37:35 AM
It does, unfortunately, happen each visit to the supermarket for me and I'm sure I leave with blood pressure 50% higher than when I entered the car park. I fail to see why anyone reverses into a space as they then have to cart their shopping bags down the length of their car to try and put them in a boot with no space as another  :censored: has parked behind them waaayyy too closely.

Sadly the only means to avoid all the stress is to have shopping delivered and I avoid this.........

(a) because it gets me out of the 'bunker' once a week
(b) I'd like to think those less able than I can better use the delivery slot
(c) because I want to choose my own comestibles and not rely on anyone else picking for me

Nobby, agree with you on all those points.

I only reversed in on this occasion because it backs up to a path (for trolley access).

Also, don't trust people "picking" our delivery.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MinZaPint on March 21, 2021, 01:44:20 PM
Well I guess I'm lucky on the shopping front, we're within walking distance of our local shops where we have 2 good butchers and ditto greengrocers so once a week we can get all our fresh food and every fortnight we have a delivery of all the packets cans and bottles (Beer supplies included). Works for us as the shops we visit are well up on the mask and social distancing front plus we get to enjoy a bit of banter with the staff who have got to know us, an added bonus is we have a M&S food hall where we can get fresh fish, we very nearly had a wet fish shop run by local fishermen who had lost their restaurant trade, unfortunately they gave up as it was too time consuming alongside their home delivery service. Our local supermarkets suffer from the same problems as already mentioned.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on March 21, 2021, 03:08:29 PM
I've mentioned before that I now go to my local Tesco Superstore as infrequently as possible - that means about every 14 to 16 days - and late in the evening. After 8:00pm it is always quiet on Tuesdays and Wednesdays, with staff outnumbering shoppers. Consequently it is, and I feel, safer.

However, last week with my Sheila being unwell I thought I'd drop in to pick up some treats for her after my now regular early-afternoon visit to my osteopath. Frankly, I couldn't believe how unsafe I felt! Other than the fact everybody was wearing a mask, you'd be hard pressed to feel that there was such a thing as the pandemic. Zero social distancing, couples, families, friends - all moving around without a thought, apparently, for distancing, respect for others, or any other of the niceties of a polite society. So yes, pretty pre-Covid normality.

As I hurried to pick the few items I wanted I was self-scanning some oranges in front of the rack when a 60-something female head appeared between my shins and the lower half of said rack. She was so close her shoulder brushed against me as she grabbed a net of satsumas.
"Hey!" said I, "would you mind keeping your distance?"
"Well, I would if you weren't fannying about so long!" she indignantly replied. "I have to get on!"
She turned, put her net in the trolley being driven by her silent partner or husband, chuntered something more that I didn't catch, looked back at me with daggers in her eyes, and continued on her way. Getting on.

Apparently in this Covid-ridden world "so long" is now defined as a time period of about ten seconds, for that's all the time I needed to select, scan, and move on.

I'm pleased to say that I ignored this ignorant fool, who, when I entered the next aisle, was giving her partner an earful of what I took to be continued unhappy complaint about the guy in aisle 3 who had the temerity to ask her to consider another human being. I caught his eye: the look he gave back spoke volumes, which I translated as "look mate, sorry about her, but you only got a bit of what I have to put up with all the time!".

Ten minutes later I was getting in my car and going home, resolved anew NEVER to do that again. I'll stick to my quiet evening sorties thank you.


And if this country stays in lockdown for longer than some folks would like because the R number refuses to reduce sufficiently, it will come as no surprise to me.



Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 21, 2021, 04:18:38 PM
you have far more patience than I do  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 22, 2021, 12:13:41 AM
I daren't go supermarket shopping as it's too risky. Being diabetic and having leukaemia on top, it's too much of a risk. I've had Covid once, don't want it again. We get deliveries from Sainsbury's and Morrisons, never had a problem with either.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dr Al on March 22, 2021, 12:44:03 AM
I never have ranted on this thread, but feel the time is right to do so.

It's a rant explicitly about the forum - specifically members apparent lack of valuation of the other folks time.

I've spent years here posting help, advice how to fix models to feed back experience I gained in my early days mainly on other forums that were predecessors of this.

Since then I've done some help on product development and testing (including N Brass's Duchess bogie, and Mr Sprue's good replacement Farish spare parts).

Those have all been appreciated and positive, but in recent times it seems less and less the case - I've had folk flippantly asking me to build duplicates of models I did on my workbench, and when I reply saying "that'll take 25 hours and therefore a realistic cost will be X" they never come back - folk just don't seem to appreciate the difficulty and time (or whether I'd even be motivated to want to approach some builds again), and have the cheek to not even reply (or if they do its literally weeks or months later to back out).

Worse, recently I've consented to repairing some models, but then had my address given out to others without my consent resulting in arbitrary unsolicited mail of locos for repair with me left wondering what the hell they are and why I'm getting them.

Last one being recently said that my input was a "steaming pile of excrement" - well thanks very much - maybe I shouldn't bother helping folks any more?

Really - I do think the "online generation" (of any age) seem to be getting more and more detached from the reality of how much time it takes to help folk, how much time it takes to build things, how hard that is - and how belittling it is to have that all undervalued by folk wanting advice, repairs, prototyping or complete builds and not appreciating the time that needs to be dedicated to it.

I look at all the models I have on the stack to do, and do wonder why I bother with these forums at times...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 22, 2021, 12:57:35 AM
[mod]Perhaps members may consider taking these comments on board.[/mod]
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Graham on March 22, 2021, 02:59:58 AM
Quote from: Bealman on March 22, 2021, 12:57:35 AM
Perhaps members may consider taking these comments on board.

Hear Hear,

@Dr Al (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=263) has helped me enormously over the years, I would like to think I have been appreciative, if not I should have been. You do a great job Dr Al and I for one will always enjoy reading your posts about your builds and advice on repairs.

Please keep going Dr Al.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on March 22, 2021, 08:43:45 AM
It only takes a few seconds to say, "Thank you, that was appreciated". I wish people would do it more often, but it seems to be a dying art in this throw away society that we seem to live in.  I have helped/given advice to a couple of members, mainly via email, and it is always nice when you get that quick email that says, "Thanks David".
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Fardap on March 22, 2021, 08:58:46 AM
Quote from: Dr Al on March 22, 2021, 12:44:03 AM
...and when I reply saying "that'll take 25 hours and therefore a realistic cost will be X" they never come back - folk just don't seem to appreciate the difficulty and time (or whether I'd even be motivated to want to approach some builds again), and have the cheek to not even reply (or if they do its literally weeks or months later to back out).

Feel for you nothing more disheartening than being taken for granted.

It is not just here though, people in general are like this. I do graphic design - never been a business or my job, was a hobby that I enjoy much like you here - I do the design of a local theatre company (that I am a member of) programmes, posters, website and the like. Off the back of that the number of people that contact me and say could you do X,Y, Z and then get put out when I suggest they will have to pay (a lot less than a professional) they get 'funny'.

I may not be a professional in the sense I don't earn my living at it but I have got a BA Hons in graphic design so I am not by any means an amateur. It grips me!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on March 22, 2021, 09:30:27 AM
Quote from: Dr Al on March 22, 2021, 12:44:03 AM

It's a rant explicitly about the forum - specifically members apparent lack of valuation of the other folks time.


I know exactly where you're coming from Al. I have no issue helping people but it's when people think it is their right that you help them or are using you as the easy option.
I, too, receive plenty of pm's most of which just need a quick reply but others would end up needing a reply of article proportions. Yes, I build a lot from scratch but it takes a lot of research and working out what I can cannibalise chassis wise etc. I get numerous requests as to how to build something, often locos I'd have to look up first as I've no idea what they are. If it's something I've already built details are already in my build thread so that's probably the first place to look rather than me having to repeat it in a pm.
I've actually had someone pm me concerning converting a Terrier into a tender drive with the following: "I know you wrote an article in the NGS Journal showing how to do it but to save me time looking for it can you pm me with the info...."
Of course that just accounts for people wanting info, you then have those that say "I want you to build me a...." where "could you build me a ...." may be a better starting point. I think I've mentioned it before but shortly after I built my Aeolus class from scratch in brass with a scratch built chassis a member on here asked me to build them one. When I mentioned it took approx 50 hours to build and if I only charge £10/hour labour all I got was accused of daylight robbery.
Test builds are a grey area depending on who has asked you. I was asked by a well known N gauge retailer to test build a laser cut coach kit which I agreed to so put my own builds to one side and it jumped the queue. The initial kit was riddled with errors and basically became unbuildable so after many hours were spent I fed back things that needed changing and redesigned parts arrived but for some reason other amendments were made which just caused more issues and more feedback. Anyhow after hours of free gratis work helping a business develop a new product for them to sell they suddenly went silent on me and emails were ignored. I still have a half built coach sitting here and the kit still hasn't been released.
This may sound like sour grapes but, like I said, I have no problem answering questions but not when I'm asked because it's the easy option rather than looking for themselves. "Why put in the effort myself when I can get someone else to do it for me?"
And when someone has spent a fair bit of time collecting info etc and responded to you it's not hard to pm back a quick "cheers" but it obviously is for some :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dr Al on March 22, 2021, 09:49:05 AM
Further.....this morning I've been told on another thread....

" I'm not going to tell you how to feel, but you're saying you don't get sufficient recognition for the support you provide. The answer is to stop providing it. As you say, it's meant to be fun. You don't need to reply to PMs, or reply with "sorry, I don't have time for that". I don't get the sudden outpouring on this. "

See my point?...this is nearing the end.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on March 22, 2021, 09:58:24 AM
Quote from: Dr Al on March 22, 2021, 12:44:03 AM

Worse, recently I've consented to repairing some models, but then had my address given out to others without my consent resulting in arbitrary unsolicited mail of locos for repair with me left wondering what the hell they are and why I'm getting them.


Time for a variant of Stock Aitken & Waterman's copyright statement maybe? They had a public policy that if you sent them any unsolicited material, you were deemed to be assigning copyright to them (we use it on our website too). It stopped any problems with people claiming they'd copied them. In your case, any unsolicited locos being sent to you are automatically deemed to be a gift and may be used as spare parts for your own models :)

I'm lucky enough to have bought a couple of your models over the years and the effort you've put into them is definitely appreciated.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 22, 2021, 10:08:21 AM
Quite frankly I'm appalled at what Alan has said and, if I knew the people concerned, would throw them off the forum just for a starter. It seems a course in courtesy and manners might also benefit them. As someone physically incapable of kit building and fixing ailing locos, I've had several dealings with Alan and hope in all that time he has no poor impression (at least, I have no adverse comments on my ratings).
Sadly we do live in a time when being pleasant and polite are not considered de rigeur, but should Alan withdraw his help I, for one, would mourn the loss of his services.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: REGP on March 22, 2021, 11:34:40 AM
It's the willingness of people like Alan to help the less skilled like me that has helped to make this Forum the success it is.

Frankly I'm disgusted by the nature of some of the comments Alan has received and agree with NPN that their authors should be banned from the Forum.

I've had the benefit of Alan's advice on a number of occasions as well as having bought a couple of Locos from him and hopefully our correspondence has always been cordial even when he couldn't help me.

Ray
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NScaleNotes on March 22, 2021, 12:00:17 PM

I do sympathise with you Dr Al. It does take a lot of work helping and posting online and I salute you.

For every bad or unacknowledged posting/message there are probably hundreds of lurkers on forums that have benefited from your postings and advice.

I suppose I do want to offer a slight counter though and suggest that perhaps it's not personal or even intended in some cases. Just from visiting shows I can see that this hobby does tend to attract a number of people with how can I put this, not the best social skills, yes sometimes this will be just because they are not very nice people with bad manners but it can often be because of a condition such as autism/aspergers. I'm definitely not trying to excuse the more blatant examples you've revealed or suggesting that everyone on the spectrum is socially inept but having recently discovered I might be somewhere on 'the scale' I'm horrified when I look back at my own communications and realise I have probably made my own terrible faux pars and sent messages that could have been taken the wrong way in the past.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on March 22, 2021, 12:43:12 PM
Quote from: NScaleNotes on March 22, 2021, 12:00:17 PM

I have probably made my own terrible faux pars and sent messages that could have been taken the wrong way in the past.

One disadvantage of sending the written word is that the recipient has, normally, no idea of the spirit in which the written word was sent. Facial expressions and little 'nuances' in the spoken word are absent. I sent a message yesterday to a member and following the reply, I asked Louisa to read my message and the reply. She said that my message could possibly have been taken the wrong way and not received in the spirit in which it was sent. We all have to be careful in what we write - and think before hitting 'send'.  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 22, 2021, 01:30:55 PM


while I have not had the sort of problems Al has had, I have when offering stock etc for sale on here often had the ..

I'm interested in ...
can you send photos of ...
I'd like xxx but can you hold it for me till I can pay ...

all of which then disappear into the ether, no further contact, BUT I may have said to another interested member...
sorry, someone else has asked for this

so a genuine member has lost out at my price, maybe finding another but more expensive,
I've lost out on a sale,
the forum has lost out on a donation,

all it takes is a quick

'sorry, changed my mind / too expensive for me / not quite what I was after' PM.

but then some people are just plain ignorant  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 22, 2021, 04:03:14 PM
Quote from: class37025 on March 19, 2021, 08:11:11 PM
SWMBO had a call from a very nice lady this afternoon, asking if she would prefer a telephone consult, or a face-to-face consult with the consultant.

she chose a telephone one, having noted that the two times she had gone up for x-rays there were no sanitisers etc at the entrance she used !

so, monday afternoon she will be called ....

but

shortly after her GP phoned to see how she was, and explained that there is the chance that what showed on the CT scan MIGHT be lung cancer.

no explanation as to why this did not show 8 - 10 weeks ago when she had her last x-ray, so I'm guessing/ hoping it's the shadow on the lung from her TB.

so, we are in for a great weekend, but hopefully all will be allayed monday.

call just after 15:00, or for civvies 3pm  >:D

long chat with her and me [on speaker phone] and the result is she is now heading for

Bloods - at surgery but more than usual
Lung function - at PRH
then PET CT scan at Falmer
followed possibly by a CT Biopsy, also at Falmer

she is to continue with her meds for now, though one may need to be suspended for one of the tests, but that will be in the relevant letter,

so SWMBO a bit calmer, and I've phoned the surgery with an update for her GP who is on holiday this week.

am I any calmer  :hmmm: where is the fingers crossed emojie ?

still, the main thing is that after her panicking all weekend about lung cancer, she is at least a bit calmer.

what more can I hope for ?

so, once again, NHS front line staff 10+/10

if only the pen pushers were a bit more efficient.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 22, 2021, 04:35:30 PM
PET CT scan at Falmer

why do they want to scan HB, and good luck with getting him to stay still  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: paulbeckwith on March 22, 2021, 06:02:25 PM

  well  said  dr  al

these  idiots  need  banning

  paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on March 22, 2021, 06:15:15 PM
@class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311)
I am glad that SWMBO is a bit calmer with things now Alan, but it must still be a trying time. I hope it turns out to be summat and nowt. Give her a hug from me.  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on March 22, 2021, 07:02:17 PM
Good that your wife has a comprehensive set of tests to come, Alan.  May the results be all that you both wish them to be. :thumbsup:

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 22, 2021, 07:05:41 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on March 22, 2021, 06:15:15 PM
@class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311)
I am glad that SWMBO is a bit calmer with things now Alan, but it must still be a trying time. I hope it turns out to be summat and nowt. Give her a hug from me.  ;)

I'll give her a hug from ME, you hug your own SWMBO  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 22, 2021, 08:55:16 PM
thank you all for your kind wishes and comments,
apart of course from Dannyboy,
who seems to want to hug SWMBO,

advice, don't try it while HB is around, he can be quite protective ! >:D

only Joking dannyboy, honest  :-[

at least SWMBO is much calmer after listening to the call today, so perhaps things can get back to more normal till she gets the letters.

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR COMMENTS
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on March 23, 2021, 12:21:14 AM
On the positive side, things are not always as bad as they might at first seem. I got as far as actually being diagnosed with Lymphoma and sent for a camera down to my lungs and also through the chest wall to determine grade and stage. It happened at a very bad time, immediately before Christmas, so they could not see me for a fortnight and when my wife was 7-1/2 months pregnant with our third child. We spent Christmas alone, with our two other children, in a cottage in the French countryside, worrying that it could be our last holiday. In the end it turned out to be sarcoidosis (which my wife had suggested, but they ruled out!), which cleared up over 14 months or so with no treatment.

Good luck to the pair of you.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 23, 2021, 12:59:11 PM
another update ....

the doctor who phoned yesterday afternoon phoned again today at lunchtime.
they have had another meeting to discuss SWMBO's case, and want her to have a face - to - face consultation before deciding further on the Pet scan and CT biopsy.
so we are up to the PRH this thursday morning  :worried:

when you hear so many stories of people waiting months or even years, everything seems to be moving very fast. is that good, as in they want to get things done quickly and over with, or bad as in there is not going to be good news ?

we also had a call earlier this morning re an appointment for the PET CT scan, but that has been cancelled for now pending the results of thursday's face - to - face.

so another couple of days of uncertainty, but hopefully we will know on thursday what the situation is, and how they are going to deal with it going forward.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 23, 2021, 04:03:33 PM
I think with all the kerfuffle over delays to consultations/treatments for cases other than Covid much effort is being put in to get things back on track.
I do hope all the worry is just for a minor illness, Alan.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 23, 2021, 06:00:50 PM
the problem is, some areas will look at some cases, say oops, never going to get that within target, and head to newer cases where they might be able to be within target.

I know, cynical of me isn't it ?

you might then get a group of forgotten cases, where to deal with them, having missed the targets, would cause later cases to also miss the targets.

not in any way suggesting the front line would look at it that way, but we all know that the trust bosses need to hit targets to get their nice bonuses !

remember a tv series many years ago, IIRC Trigger from fools and horses played a consultant, and a Maggie look alike was the administrator.

when asked if she knew what a placebo was, her response was on the lines of '£2.50 a 1,000'  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 24, 2021, 09:09:49 AM
Yes,Alan. Let's hope they are being over cautious. I must say that my leukaemia treatment has never faltered. As I was on a haematology ward, while I was there, although he wasn't treating me, my consultant kept an eye on me. He phoned me to tell me my bloods looked a lot better. Then when I came out he phoned again and arranged for my chemo to be delivered. Can't fault the NHS. The only down side is that when they discharged me, because I was so weak and walking was difficult, they issued me with 2 Zimmer frames. One for upstairs and one downstairs. I can't get shot of them.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 24, 2021, 11:40:43 AM
It is a strange situation when it comes to medical aids.
Some years ago I had a hip replacement and got all sorts of FOC kit from a Mobility shop to help me but, can I return it? No, they just don't want to know. In the garage I have
2 crutches
1 walking stick
1 tea tray c/w trolley
1 surgical cushion
and maybe some other stuff I can't remember.
Still, they may be needed in the future :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on March 24, 2021, 11:45:37 AM
Mick, maybe a charity shop would take them.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on March 24, 2021, 11:48:26 AM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on March 24, 2021, 11:45:37 AM
Mick, maybe a charity shop would take them.

there is a country wide charity that collects and refurbishes this type of kit.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on March 24, 2021, 11:49:26 AM
AgeUK webpages indicate that local shops/branches will accept used mobility equipment. I suspect other charitable groups like the Salvation Army will do the same.
Maybe need to call a local shop who may give details of their donation process.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on March 24, 2021, 11:51:38 AM
ScopeUK website gives these guidelines that may help :

https://www.scope.org.uk/advice-and-support/second-hand-disability-equipment/ (https://www.scope.org.uk/advice-and-support/second-hand-disability-equipment/)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on March 24, 2021, 12:08:21 PM
When SWMBO had her hip done, the local health board organised for her a comode and two assist frames for around the loos, from the council.  When she'd finished with with them, we rang the number supplied and they came and collected them for disinfection and re-issue to someone else.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 25, 2021, 02:34:25 PM
I rang the number taped onto the frame and they told me that because the hospital hadn't registered them before I was discharged, they couldn't pick them up. I made several phone calls to the hospital, got passed around various departments and the last person I spoke to asked me to drop them off at reception. Fortunately I have an appointment in a couple of weeks. If I don't get shot of them then, I'll use them to grow runner beans.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 25, 2021, 05:32:48 PM
today's visit to the hospital was a bit like the curate's egg, good in parts.

arrived early, drove round various car parks, then found someone just getting into their car, and parked as soo as they were out of it.
went to main reception to find out where RAMU was, found out and headed to their reception, where we stood around for over five minutes before a passing nurse asked if anyone had seen us.

said no, so she booked us in and told us to take a seat, did so waited.
after nearly 40 minutes, with not much sign of people going in and out, went back up to the receptionist and asked if she had any idea how late Dr xxxxx was running.

he's not based here.
well this is where my wife was told her appointment was.

checks her computer

she's not on our system
funny a nurse booked us in while you were not here, so how did she do that if there wasn't an appointment ?

just take a seat and someone will get you.  :veryangry:

waited, gave up and went for a coffee

finally the doctor arrived, he had been on the ward and got held up, no problem with that, and yes an appointment had been made for SWMBO.

as usual, pen pushers nil points for efficiency, and less than that for being helpful.

into the consulting room, and the Dr went through SWMBO's x-rays and CT scan, pointing out what was showing, and explained it all in great detail.
then explained what they wanted to do, and then examined her lungs and neck, apparently where signs can appear. all well, so he explained about her PET CT scan, what it would show, her lung function test, arranged for her bloods to be done straight away, and explained what was involved in the CT biopsy.
follow up appointment made for a month's time, 'but we can bring that forward when the test results are back.
and off we went home, front line as usual 11/10.

half an hour after we got home a phone call from the Pet scan department to arrange her appointment, next wednesday, and she's got a blood glucose test arranged for monday to check that the number is ok for the scan.
e-mail arrived five minutes later with letter, parking voucher, map, briefings on the scan and instructions re her diabetes meds and fasting before the scan.

SO SOME ADMIN STAFF ARE ON THE BALL  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

so now it's a case of waiting, and trying not to worry too much.

and best of all, HB doesn't have to have a scan, though I'm not sure he is really a PET  ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 26, 2021, 10:58:15 AM
more activity this morning, with a call to make an appointment for a lung function test at Sussex County, and a drive through covid test 72 hours before at PRH.

this is really cracking on, with vistits to doctors or hospitals just about every day next week.

but a very helpful guy making the appointments, followed by e-mails with all the info and advice sheets etc. and he even gave advice on parking off site for the Sussex County appointment.

so todays 'pen pusher, another 10/10  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 26, 2021, 08:41:30 PM
is it me being a grumpy old git, or is anyone else fed up with and disgusted by the double standards of TV companies ?

last night, ITV news was 'exposing' Deliveroo as a exploitative employer, paying below minimum wages and generally treating their employees badly ....

tonight, ITV is happy to air deliveroo adverts, well obviously their money is as good as anyone elses,  even if last night they were the spawn of satan.

talk about double standards :veryangry:

no doubt this will extend my time on the naughty step.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 26, 2021, 09:00:32 PM
Probably a case of the left hand doesn't know what the right is doing, or more likely doesn't care when advertising revenue is concerned. Whoever invented the 'Mute' button on TV remotes deserves a medal to my mind when it comes to TV ads. I find it difficult to believe someone at the company concerned actually approved some of the more crass/annoying ones believing them to be a good representation of their company products ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 26, 2021, 09:18:51 PM
I still have my crutches from my op two years ago. I can't take them back.... they don't issue them here, you have to buy them!

Still, as Mick says, I'll probably need them again one of these days  :-\
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on March 26, 2021, 10:28:35 PM
My pet peeve lately...

There's an advert on Planet Rock, for a well known fried chicken purveyor. In the middle of what is the usual banal script for such products, the 'yoof' in the advert says "aks" instead of "ask".

IT DOES MY FLIPPIN' HEAD IN.

Why is it so hard to get someone who can actually speak English. I don't expect an advert for KFC to be done by an old Etonian in Latin. I'm fine with a regional accent, and I'm fine with the hip-hop, rap style of speech, but why can't they find someone who can actually pronounce words correctly. It's aimed at the younger generations, I hardly think we need to be actively trying to make them thicker.

:veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 26, 2021, 10:56:00 PM
but no doubt they were cheep !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 27, 2021, 11:00:24 AM
I do find a lack of proofreading is annoying. It's not just on line ads that were done by a 16 year old apprentice getting used to Publisher, it's often in printed materials as well. Now you can send the material straight from your computer to the printing machine, there is no one to check spelling or punctuation.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 27, 2021, 11:27:03 AM
Whatever happened to 'going to' or 'want to' - now we just get gunna and wanna.
We don't even get 'to' but get 'tuh'.
People trying to say 'a' then a noun beginning with a vowel. Can't they hear themselves struggle to do it?
Don't get me started on those who start a sentence with 'So' and those saying 'nucular' and 'burgalry'. I could go further but some on the forum would object.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on March 27, 2021, 11:35:31 AM
So a burgalry at a nucular plant is a no no then?  :)

I know what you mean though Mick. The constant misuse of the English language really annoys me at times. I think it stems from laziness - we live in a throw away society these days and I think it is the same with language.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Yet_Another on March 27, 2021, 12:31:55 PM
Not necessarily. Richard Dawkins coined the word 'meme' back in the 70s to express the idea of a cultural or behavioural element that gets passed down the generations, and it can apply to language, just simply being systematically passed down families. The word chimbley is an example. It annoys me no end, but persists in people who know how to spell and say chimney. But they were taught otherwise at a subliminal level, effectively.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 27, 2021, 01:33:51 PM
Another thing that annoys me is the aspirant H. H is spelt aitch and some people are intent on pronouncing it Haitch.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: chrism on March 27, 2021, 01:50:13 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on March 27, 2021, 11:27:03 AM
and those saying 'nucular'

Ah, "nucular" came from the Yanks, who for some reason manage to insert a complete additional syllable when saying the word yet, AFAIK, still spell it correctly. Unfortunately, it made its way into TV and films, so many non-American people got fooled into thinking that's how it should be pronounced.

There is actually a very good reason for it - they needed to do something with all the  letter "u"s that they leave out of words like "colour", "flavour", etc.  :D

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: chrism on March 27, 2021, 01:55:40 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on March 26, 2021, 09:00:32 PM
Whoever invented the 'Mute' button on TV remotes deserves a medal to my mind when it comes to TV ads.

Whoever invented the FF button on video player/recorders deserves a knighthood too - whilst whoever invented the "jump x minutes forward" button on PVRs can have a top rank peerage as well  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Invicta Alec on March 27, 2021, 02:27:11 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on March 26, 2021, 10:28:35 PM
My pet peeve lately...

There's an advert on Planet Rock, for a well known fried chicken purveyor. In the middle of what is the usual banal script for such products, the 'yoof' in the advert says "aks" instead of "ask".


I haven't seen that advert but I'm willing to bet the "yoof" comes from North London. "Aks" is a real giveaway! I will however dispute your spelling. It should be "arks". The delightful comedian Catherine Tate uses "arks" when playing her Lauren Cooper character!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV1zK8zRCPo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV1zK8zRCPo)

Alec.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Invicta Alec on March 27, 2021, 02:39:07 PM
....... and while we are at it, there is a place in London that hardly anyone can seem to pronounce properly!!

It isn't MARLEY bone. For goodness sake! Marley make roof tiles  :veryangry:

It is spelled Marylebone

It should be pronounced Marry-le-bone.

Alec.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Flange Squeal on March 27, 2021, 03:03:48 PM
I struggle to N gauge with this thread. Surely there's better places on the world wide web to whine about life's misfortunes 🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on March 27, 2021, 03:14:21 PM
This is exactly the place. :D
While we're on the subject, I may as get these two off my chest.
The use of "to" when they really mean too, as in "too many"  or "I went there too".
And another one, and both my sons are guilty of this, "of" when they mean "have", as in "should have".  I might add, they did not learn this off SWMBO or I.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on March 27, 2021, 03:44:58 PM
Quote from: Flange Squeal on March 27, 2021, 03:03:48 PM
I struggle to N gauge with this thread.

Are you looking for this thread (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=44072.0) by any chance?  :angel:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on March 27, 2021, 04:01:40 PM
A local councillor sent out her flyer for a forthcoming local election and I received it yesterday. She claims to have done a lot for the local community over the years. So I start to read the accompanying 'personal' letter to her target prospective voters for her re-election and within a sentence or two I'm no longer taking in the message of her future council ambitions, but getting increasingly irritated by her poor grammar, lack of punctuation, and generally dreadful spelling.
If you want to get folks on your side, at least use a spell checker!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on March 28, 2021, 03:13:28 AM
Quote from: chrism on March 27, 2021, 01:55:40 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on March 26, 2021, 09:00:32 PM
Whoever invented the 'Mute' button on TV remotes deserves a medal to my mind when it comes to TV ads.

Whoever invented the FF button on video player/recorders deserves a knighthood too - whilst whoever invented the "jump x minutes forward" button on PVRs can have a top rank peerage as well  ;)

I love that feature. Our satellite boxes (running Linux/OpenVix) are currently set up to rewind or fast forward 15 seconds (1/3), 1 minute (4/6) or 3 minutes (7/9). Although I can change the settings.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 29, 2021, 07:43:08 PM
at 19.10 this evening, phone cal from Pet scan dept,
'can you make it tomorrow ......'
NO
just about every day this week SWMBO has appointments to be swabbed,  proded, scanned or otherwise invaded.
nearly every day we get phone call from someone who wants to change something or introduce themselves.

she's not even had a diagnosis yet, but we've got the Macmillan nurses phoning to introduce themselves..

and we know what that means....

so she sits down this evening to watch her soaps on tv, for which we have to pay the BBC even though we never watch their  :poop: programs, and just about every channel is pixelated, or not working.

is it even worth bothering to keep living, or are they determined to drive us all to suicide ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on April 01, 2021, 01:54:23 PM
Vauxhall Main Dealers  :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

Took my Insignia in to the Vauxhall Main Dealers in Leicester today for it's 1st service & MOT since I bought it last year, just had a call from them to say that the Service has gone fine, but there are a couple of things picked up on the MOT, front tyres are starting to wear on the inside and there's a nick in one of the rear tyres both of which they have advised to get replaced, also rear pads are down to 30% again they recommend replacement, so as they're advisories I'll take notice of their advisories and think about it........

However my blood was boiled a little bit when they informed me that my front Wiper blades needed replacing,
"fair enough" says I "I thought they might've needed doing",
"Ok sir, we'll replace them"
"How much?" says I
"£53 sir, fitted"
"How Much!!!, I can get a set from Halfords for about £20!!!, has the MOT been done or is it being done?? I'll pop in and get myself a pair and fit them myself"
"I'll have to check sir,"
A minute or so's silence is followed by "The MOT is being done now sir, however I can get the Wiper cost down to £35 fitted"
"Fair enough" says I "That's more acceptable"


But £53 for a pair of windscreen wipers, I mean I have a Vauxhall Insignia, not a :censored: :censored: bus!!!!

Rant mode over.

Regards

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on April 01, 2021, 01:59:46 PM
It always surprises me, (not), that when you complain about the cost of something, quite often 'they' can reduce the price!

Hope things go well for your wife Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on April 01, 2021, 02:27:49 PM
Daffy
Its funny that you have just recieved your local councillor flyer with bad grammar .
I have just recieved our local councillors flyer as well and found in one section  a letter missing from a word   and two words missing from another section .
It does make you wonder if they cant even get the wording on their flyer right will they actually get their promises right .
Or dont the printers  employ proof readers any more.
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on April 01, 2021, 03:22:32 PM
Quote from: Bob Tidbury on April 01, 2021, 02:27:49 PM
Daffy
Its funny that you have just recieved your local councillor flyer with bad grammar .
I have just recieved our local councillors flyer as well and found in one section  a letter missing from a word   and two words missing from another section .
It does make you wonder if they cant even get the wording on their flyer right will they actually get their promises right .
Or dont he printers  employ proof readers any more.
Bob Tidbury

My thoughts entirely Bob. :thumbsup: In the five paragraph 'letter' the lady candidate sent out I counted (after I'd retrieved it from the bin) a total of 15 errors. :o

As for prufe reeders - it's seemz they is a dyeing breed theese daze. :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jpendle on April 01, 2021, 03:29:26 PM
Quote from: TrevL on March 27, 2021, 03:14:21 PM
This is exactly the place. :D
While we're on the subject, I may as get these two off my chest.
The use of "to" when they really mean too, as in "too many"  or "I went there too".
And another one, and both my sons are guilty of this, "of" when they mean "have", as in "should have".  I might add, they did not learn this off SWMBO or I.

They got the 'of' from Nobby Nobbs in Discworld  :D

All the misspelling and the grammatical errors are due to the prevalence of texting, social media, and forums like this, as a means to communicate with others.
When most of us were younger the level of literacy of the average person was irrelevant when it came to communication. You can't tell if someone said 'too' or 'to', or 'bow' or 'bough', and no one says 'comma' in the middle of a sentence.

As a result there is a tendency to write things down as they are pronounced, rather than as they should be written.

However, I do find it quite disconcerting. when I read a question on a forum, and I can't be sure what the person means because of their grammar and punctuation.
My instinct is to call that person out, but that would be very unkind, so I either ask for clarification or, more often, don't reply.

Then there are the typo's. I've already corrected this post 6 times because I can't type and look at the screen at the same time  :(

Please preview your posts  :thankyousign:

Regards,

John P





Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on April 01, 2021, 04:18:33 PM
not really sure if this should be in the

angry thread
happy thread
or
what is happening with SWMBO thread  :hmmm:

noticed last night that I'd run out of liquid poly cement, shouldn't be a problem as I always re-order stuff when I'm down to the last one. had a quick look, couldn't find the spare, but more important things to deal with ...

when we got back from the hospital this morning, got SWMBO settled down and started the search for the spare liquid poly bottle, so I could chill out with a couple of wargames vehicles being built.

can't find it  >:(

try the shed

can't find it  :veryangry:

'what's up?' from SWMBO.

can't find my spare bottle of glue so I can't get on with a bit of modeling while you have a nap.

can't you get some from Tesco ?

err, no they don't sell such useful items.

so where do you get it ?

well, the toy / model shop opposite Wilko would stock it, but they're closed due to covid.

can't you get it anywhere else ?

I could order some from Hattons, as it's paints / glues Royal Mail won't deliver it, so it will be DPD overnight, but that's £4.

now things get weird  >:D

so how much is it ?

£3 a bottle, so get two so I've got one to use, and another spare, with the £4 on top.

why don't you order some, and add some paints etc as well to make it worth while paying the postage ?

OK WHAT HAVE THEY DONE WITH MY WIFE  :worried:

normal response would be 'can't you wait till the toy shop opens' now she's authorising extra expenditure on models ?????

so, nice 'worth while' parcel of glue and paints etc ordered and hopefully will be sent today and arrive tomorrow or saturday [DPD seems to deliver every day, not sure even christmas day is excluded]

as I say, perhaps should be in the happy, or even totally baffled thread  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on April 01, 2021, 06:37:54 PM
I'm up for a 'Totally Baffled' thread.

I'm always nervous about such occurrences. It usually means I'm about to be landed with something I don't want to be involved with.

Or, I'm about to find out there's been some damage to something or other.

Or, she's spent a pile on something.

Or, she's after a favour to do with the horses.

In any event it usually doesn't end well for me.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on April 03, 2021, 11:02:12 AM
I had that sort of thing this week as well - chalk me up for a 'Totally Baffled' thread, too.

I had a parcel delivered from a certain retailer in Cornwall and as usual, Mrs Talisman was interested in the contents (a Dapol 'Terrier' (the 9th one for the stud) and the GF Scenecraft Oil Storage Tanks for the curious). The (unusual) response was 'Oh, OK...'

Immediately my alarm bells rang, and later that day our nice and very efficient Hermes delivery lady turned up with two parcels for SWMBO...  (some clothing and more  :censored: Yankee Candles, for the equally curious).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: javlinfaw7 on April 05, 2021, 11:25:16 PM
My son just walked into my kitchen and found an intruder, he asked him to leave but he asked him to leave .he had to be ejected but left a shoe behind  so the police have a dog out looking for him.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on April 05, 2021, 11:31:24 PM
Quote from: javlinfaw7 on April 05, 2021, 11:25:16 PM
My son just walked into my kitchen and found an intruder, he asked him to leave but he asked him to leave .he had to be ejected but left a shoe behind  so the police have a dog out looking for him.

Seriously?

Blimey! Are you all okay?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: javlinfaw7 on April 05, 2021, 11:38:11 PM
Yes, we were decorating so door unlocked to get off cuts of laminate at packaging out , Had the cheek to ask my son ,aged 42, to be quiret when he called for the other two of us to come down.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on April 05, 2021, 11:41:08 PM
That sucks mate. Cheeky scumbag. Let's hope Plod manages to find him, hopefully the dog'll misbehave and maul the S.O.A.B.

You have my sympathy.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Fardap on April 06, 2021, 10:05:26 PM
Forgot what a stress and pita buying a house can be. Found somewhere that looked brilliant, spent a few days checking and double checking the pics and street view and as much other info as possible.
Contacted agents to get additional information with a view to makeing an offer to be told it had an offer accepted a month ago but the vendor didn't want them to mark it under offer or SSTC.
Thereby circumventing my searches that exclude such properties.
Very, very annoyed tonight.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 07, 2021, 10:53:41 AM
My experiences of house hunting have not been good in the main as some seem to have no 'manners' when it comes to how to act.
I'm quite sure they'd be screaming blue murder on Farcebook etc if it was them on the receiving end.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on April 07, 2021, 11:34:19 AM
Quote from: Fardap on April 06, 2021, 10:05:26 PM
Forgot what a stress and pita buying a house can be. Found somewhere that looked brilliant, spent a few days checking and double checking the pics and street view and as much other info as possible.
Contacted agents to get additional information with a view to makeing an offer to be told it had an offer accepted a month ago but the vendor didn't want them to mark it under offer or SSTC.
Thereby circumventing my searches that exclude such properties.
Very, very annoyed tonight.

Something similar happened to us over the weekend. As much as I loath the stress of moving, even I had to admit a house we found online seemed a good one.

However further enquires revealed it was under offer and had been for over a week.

My question would be....why? If it's under negotiation take it down from the website and stop wasting people's time.

Add to that the interminable hold music at the estate agent in question and all the horrible memories of buying my current house came back.

My apologies to any decent agents out there, but do some of their colleagues go through special training to make the process so flipping awful?

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on April 07, 2021, 11:40:17 AM
Quote from: emjaybee on April 05, 2021, 11:41:08 PM
That sucks mate. Cheeky scumbag. Let's hope Plod manages to find him, hopefully the dog'll misbehave and maul the S.O.A.B.

You have my sympathy.

There is a video going around of a New York police dog arrest.  the arrest was a running take down and then the dog stepped back and let the officers cuff the suspect.

Once he was restrained the dog has the last word, he goes up to the suspect and pees on him like a tree.  Who says they are not intelligent animals.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on April 07, 2021, 12:11:48 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on April 07, 2021, 10:53:41 AM
My experiences of house hunting have not been good in the main as some seem to have no 'manners' when it comes to how to act.
I'm quite sure they'd be screaming blue murder on Farcebook etc if it was them on the receiving end.

not so much a response, but I do love your new AVTUR  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 07, 2021, 12:30:55 PM
Thanks. Sadly I had to have Hookey put to sleep yesterday after he'd battled with liver disease for 13 months so being reminded of him is too raw at present.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on April 07, 2021, 12:54:08 PM
Sorry to hear that Mick. PM sent.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on April 07, 2021, 01:41:18 PM
Sad news Mick. It's only people who do not have pets that don't realise how much part of the family they become. We were distraught each time we lost one of our cats.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on April 07, 2021, 03:06:41 PM
I finished work at 1, nipped into town to buy bread, a takeaway coffee. Read this on the train and came to conclusion after watching people looking at their phones, eyes superglued to their screens, not socially distancing , I passed 4 parents in the path too busy talking and not caring for any body but themselves .... the safest place at home
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on April 07, 2021, 03:27:41 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on April 07, 2021, 12:30:55 PM
Thanks. Sadly I had to have Hookey put to sleep yesterday after he'd battled with liver disease for 13 months so being reminded of him is too raw at present.

when I lost Coco, the last intelligent beast I had, another member kindly sent me this.
being a soppy old git, it helped, but of course I will deny it, I have a reputation to uphold.
hopefully it may help you in this sad time.

"Just this side of heaven is a place called Rainbow Bridge. 

When an animal dies that has been especially close to someone here, that pet goes to Rainbow Bridge. 
There are meadows and hills for all of our special friends so they can run and play together. 
There is plenty of food, water and sunshine, and our friends are warm and comfortable. 

All the animals who had been ill and old are restored to health and vigor; those who were hurt or maimed are made whole and strong again, just as we remember them in our dreams of days and times gone by. 
The animals are happy and content, except for one small thing; they each miss someone very special to them, who had to be left behind. 

They all run and play together, but the day comes when one suddenly stops and looks into the distance. His bright eyes are intent; His eager body quivers. Suddenly he begins to run from the group, flying over the green grass, his legs carrying him faster and faster. 

You have been spotted, and when you and your special friend finally meet, you cling together in joyous reunion, never to be parted again. The happy kisses rain upon your face; your hands again caress the beloved head, and you look once more into the trusting eyes of your pet, so long gone from your life but never absent from your heart. 

Then you cross Rainbow Bridge together.... "

but hopefully, not to soon  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on April 07, 2021, 03:31:44 PM
I know just how you feel Chris. :thumbsup:

Monday, 12th April. England.

The day when I will continue to stay at home most of the time, maintain proper respect for social distancing, continue to shop online for most things, and otherwise try to avoid as many people as possible.

Not sure whether I'm okay with the new freedoms, but I'm certainly feeling that this pandemic is far from over.

So maybe not so much as angry, rather more concerned for my - and our future.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on April 07, 2021, 03:37:44 PM
Mike.totally agree with every word
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 07, 2021, 04:10:22 PM
@class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311) Damned keyboard's flooded out now
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on April 07, 2021, 04:22:38 PM
you never forget them.

from Bruce, my first shepherd, through too many who have lightened / brightened my/our lives, via Simba a real alpha male who would Never accept me as his boss, to Coco, the sweetest, most gentle animal you could have hoped to meet, and now - him - HB - I will not comment .....

they all enrich our lives, giving us their love and trust, and asking so little in return - ok HB excepted  >:D

never been a cat person, always canines, but I can understand your loss, and the emptiness in your life.

it will pass, usually after a new animal joins you, but you will always hold a special place in your heart for those that have gone before.

if only humans were so loyal and loving.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Adam1701D on April 07, 2021, 04:48:14 PM
Terry Pratchett once wrote that if there is an afterlife, then he hopes pets will be allowed.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: grumbeast on April 07, 2021, 05:46:12 PM
Not as serious as some of the posts.

But our stupid city council here has decided that cats can no longer be allowed outside except on a leash (try training a cat to this when they're not a kitten!), so I have to listen to my poor little Jellycat cry and mewl to be let outside into the sunshine after a long winter.   She doesn't understand my explanations about these idiots and being a law abiding citizen I'm not inclined to break the law (all it would need is a nimby neighbor complaining).  All she wants to do is lie in the sun and jump around in the grass.   All this when we had a Cougar sighting not 100m from the house.. I think we have bigger Cat problems than my little black cat!!

With apologies to Dog owners here, but they seem to be the only *proper* pet for the authorities, there are dog walking parks, off leash areas (not for cats) concessions made, reporting required if you hit one etc etc, not to mention the fact that many (not all to be sure, but enough) dog walkers seem to think that you are ok with their barely contained 'Children' coming over and bothering you, sniffing everything, jumping around you etc etc.

Sorry, nothing against Dogs per se, but I'm getting really sick of this.   Time to go and try and build an outside 'Catio' under the deck so Jelly can get some fresh air at least

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: chrism on April 07, 2021, 05:55:28 PM
Quote from: grumbeast on April 07, 2021, 05:46:12 PM
Not as serious as some of the posts.

But our stupid city council here has decided that cats can no longer be allowed outside except on a leash (try training a cat to this when they're not a kitten!), so I have to listen to my poor little Jellycat cry and mewl to be let outside into the sunshine after a long winter.   She doesn't understand my explanations about these idiots and being a law abiding citizen I'm not inclined to break the law (all it would need is a nimby neighbor complaining).  All she wants to do is lie in the sun and jump around in the grass.   All this when we had a Cougar sighting not 100m from the house.. I think we have bigger Cat problems than my little black cat!!

Methinks your council is completely Dagenham East.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on April 07, 2021, 05:56:18 PM
it's not the dogs that are the problem.....

it's the Idiot Dog Owners ....

I'd put a few down to encourage more responsibility from the rest...#
with a combat shot gun

but then, I'm a grumpy old  :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on April 07, 2021, 06:00:14 PM
@grumbeast (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=192)
Well, I have read the post a number of times and it still seems to be saying that cats must be on a lead whilst out. Ridiculous! ???. I think @Only Me (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1328) is correct.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: chrism on April 07, 2021, 06:39:07 PM
According to,
https://www.nanaimobulletin.com/news/nanaimo-councillors-vote-to-recommend-bylaw-that-would-keep-cats-from-roaming/ (https://www.nanaimobulletin.com/news/nanaimo-councillors-vote-to-recommend-bylaw-that-would-keep-cats-from-roaming/)

it would appear that the byelaw is more aimed at giving the council powers to more appropriately deal with problems as and when they occur than forcing resident to keep Tiddles indoors all the time.


However, I'll stick with Dagenham East
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: grumbeast on April 07, 2021, 08:47:51 PM
Quote from: chrism on April 07, 2021, 06:39:07 PM
According to,
https://www.nanaimobulletin.com/news/nanaimo-councillors-vote-to-recommend-bylaw-that-would-keep-cats-from-roaming/ (https://www.nanaimobulletin.com/news/nanaimo-councillors-vote-to-recommend-bylaw-that-would-keep-cats-from-roaming/)

it would appear that the byelaw is more aimed at giving the council powers to more appropriately deal with problems as and when they occur than forcing resident to keep Tiddles indoors all the time.


However, I'll stick with Dagenham East

Thats what I though initially, but from the councils Q&A we get this


Under the proposed bylaw, cats may be outdoors, however, they are not allowed to roam onto other people's properties. A couple of ways you can keep your cat outside and on your property is to keep them leashed or get a cat run or "catio".

Ever seen a cat on a leash?  Doesnt work.  Locally this is all down to a couple of Councillors who are real Nimbys.  This seems to be a thing in BC, with single councillors with an axe to grind seem to get their way. 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 07, 2021, 09:16:17 PM
Sadly I fear your lunatics have taken over the asylum ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Fardap on April 07, 2021, 09:45:09 PM
I believe cats in the UK are still classified wild so you cannot be held responsible for their actions, unlike a dog.

Seems madness in the extreme but I wonder where it all started... A local council member annoyed at cats in their garden?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on April 08, 2021, 02:35:56 AM
Quote from: grumbeast on April 07, 2021, 08:47:51 PM
Ever seen a cat on a leash?  Doesnt work.

Occasionally I see someone taking their cat for a walk on a leash in the general neighbourhood of Chez Railsquid, and it's not the first time I've seen a cat on a leash either, so it can work, but from general experience with cats those are outliers and yeah, as a general solution it's unviable.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: chrism on April 08, 2021, 06:59:17 AM
Quote from: railsquid on April 08, 2021, 02:35:56 AM
Quote from: grumbeast on April 07, 2021, 08:47:51 PM
Ever seen a cat on a leash?  Doesnt work.

Occasionally I see someone taking their cat for a walk on a leash in the general neighbourhood of Chez Railsquid, and it's not the first time I've seen a cat on a leash either, so it can work, but from general experience with cats those are outliers and yeah, as a general solution it's unviable.

I've never seen a cat on a leash but when I worked at the Watercress Line some people halfway up Station Road, Ropley, bred polecats and often walked them up the hill and through the yard.


Cats on leashes reminds me of Jasper Carrott's jokes about why they don't have guide cats for the blind  ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 08, 2021, 09:13:42 AM
Maybe if cats were kept on leashes the Post Office tower would have survived it's destruction

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 08, 2021, 03:05:18 PM
Just had an automated call from HMRC telling me they have an arrest warrant out for me.
Bring it on, I say. They'll never take me alive and I'll take a few of them with me :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on April 08, 2021, 03:10:45 PM
Had one of those myself this morning Mick, came from a Liverpool number (0151), number now blocked.
I suppose it only takes a very small minority to fall for it to make it worth their while.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on April 08, 2021, 03:25:42 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on April 08, 2021, 03:05:18 PM
Just had an automated call from HMRC telling me they have an arrest warrant out for me.


That's what you get for posting videos of poor puddy cats!  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: grumbeast on April 08, 2021, 04:05:17 PM
We get those here in Canada too (not HMRC, Revenue Canada), when we were still in the office, my Boss used to get them and bring his phone out into the office, put it on speaker and try and play them along for as long as he could.. was fun
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: chrism on April 08, 2021, 04:38:26 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on April 08, 2021, 03:25:42 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on April 08, 2021, 03:05:18 PM
Just had an automated call from HMRC telling me they have an arrest warrant out for me.


That's what you get for posting videos of poor puddy cats!  :)

I don't think HMRC stands for Her Majesty's Royal Cats, you know.

;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on April 08, 2021, 05:29:16 PM
Thought it was Her Majesty's Royal Corgis.  ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on April 15, 2021, 08:48:15 AM
Can someone tell me why Britain is seemingly celebrating when this is the global situation this morning:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/108/5634-150421082941.png) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=108579)
- figures and graphs are whole world.
>:(

Frankly I think this coming out of lockdown is nuts.
I have an awful feeling we are heading for disaster for the sake of a haircut, a pint and a browse around the shops. Or so it seems.
This war on Covid is not over. Not by a long way.

(I've gone for the overly simplistic approach above, as I'm angry, and it's what you do when you are angry.)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 15, 2021, 09:46:29 AM
Quote from: daffy on April 15, 2021, 08:48:15 AM

I have an awful feeling we are heading for disaster for the sake of a haircut, a pint and a browse around the shops. Or so it seems.
This war on Covid is not over. Not by a long way.


I agree. It's giving the Covidiots carte blanche to do what they want without masks and distancing. Most sensible people know the Covid effects will be around until at least next year and then maybe settle down to a similarity to the flu bug but we have far too many selfish plonkers for our own good.
As for what's going on in India in the name of religious festivals................. ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: javlinfaw7 on April 15, 2021, 10:19:38 AM

Turkey is just as bad with the health minister attending funerals  that have thousands there with no masks or social distancing.and the ruling party holding mass rallies
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: JBQFC on April 15, 2021, 10:41:06 AM
due to lockdown I have not used my mobile for a while it is with EE turned it on today as i do once a week to find they have cut me off and closed my account without any warning so contacted them to told as I have not used it in a while I have to get a new sim and cannot get a refund of the £12 credit I had then they called me a liar when I told them I had not had any warning texts  :censored:
so i am off to plusnet  as Clare is with them and has not had any problems

John
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on April 15, 2021, 11:07:35 AM
Quote from: class37025 on March 29, 2021, 07:43:08 PM
at 19.10 this evening, phone cal from Pet scan dept,
'can you make it tomorrow ......'
NO
just about every day this week SWMBO has appointments to be swabbed,  proded, scanned or otherwise invaded.
nearly every day we get phone call from someone who wants to change something or introduce themselves.

she's not even had a diagnosis yet, but we've got the Macmillan nurses phoning to introduce themselves..

and we know what that means....

so she sits down this evening to watch her soaps on tv, for which we have to pay the BBC even though we never watch their  :poop: programs, and just about every channel is pixelated, or not working.

is it even worth bothering to keep living, or are they determined to drive us all to suicide ???

just an update

well, we've had the dreaded telephone consult, and it is good news and bad.

there is no sign of any cancer other than in the lung,
but it is 96% certain that it is lung cancer.

CT biopsy is not being considered, and SWMBO is being referred to Guys Hospital in London with a view to having surgery rather than radio therapy in Brighton, 6 weeks of daily visits  !

next step is most likely a telephone consult with Guys.

not as bad as it could be, thank goodness.

now I just need to convince SWMBO of that.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on April 15, 2021, 12:23:16 PM
Good luck to you both. Bad news that it is cancer, but good that it has not spread and should therefore be able to be dealt with.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 16, 2021, 11:02:16 AM
Minor stuff compared to what's going on with others, but I had a text yesterday from my GP surgery asking me to make an appointment for my annual heart review (strange really, as I didn't have one last year). I dutifully rang this morning and was waiting for 21 minutes to get through, all the while being bombarded by a woman's voice telling me "Your call will be answered as soon as possible by a receptionist" (you mean they have more than one?) and "Please note all calls are recorded" interspersed with the most tedious music you have ever heard in your life while another voice cut in now and then to say "You are 11th in the queue" etc. When I finally got through the earliest offered appointment was 14th May.
Why am I angry?
Due to the horrendous music etc I then had to call The Samaritans to say how suicidal I felt ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on April 16, 2021, 11:11:17 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on April 16, 2021, 11:02:16 AM
make an appointment for my annual heart review (strange really, as I didn't have one last year).

Just remember it wasn't me wot said you were heartless!  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on April 16, 2021, 11:22:08 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on April 16, 2021, 11:02:16 AM
Minor stuff compared to what's going on with others, but I had a text yesterday from my GP surgery asking me to make an appointment for my annual heart review (strange really, as I didn't have one last year). I dutifully rang this morning and was waiting for 21 minutes to get through, all the while being bombarded by a woman's voice telling me "Your call will be answered as soon as possible by a receptionist" (you mean they have more than one?) and "Please note all calls are recorded" interspersed with the most tedious music you have ever heard in your life while another voice cut in now and then to say "You are 11th in the queue" etc. When I finally got through the earliest offered appointment was 14th May.
Why am I angry?
Due to the horrendous music etc I then had to call The Samaritans to say how suicidal I felt ::)

I'm surprised you didn't realise that this is a new diagnostic service offered by the NHS Cardiology Department. It's quite simple really: it's a stress test. The fact that you survived is a measure of how good your heart is.😉
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on April 16, 2021, 01:09:21 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on April 16, 2021, 11:02:16 AM
Minor stuff compared to what's going on with others, but I had a text yesterday from my GP surgery asking me to make an appointment for my annual heart review (strange really, as I didn't have one last year). I dutifully rang this morning and was waiting for 21 minutes to get through, all the while being bombarded by a woman's voice telling me "Your call will be answered as soon as possible by a receptionist" (you mean they have more than one?) and "Please note all calls are recorded" interspersed with the most tedious music you have ever heard in your life while another voice cut in now and then to say "You are 11th in the queue" etc. When I finally got through the earliest offered appointment was 14th May.
Why am I angry?
Due to the horrendous music etc I then had to call The Samaritans to say how suicidal I felt ::)

at least they told your place in the queue, I've had the 'high volume of calls, waiting time is half an hour on aver..... brr brrr 'hello'
and on other occasions waited the half an hour or more [usually Royal Mail]

did once move from 5th > 4th  > 3rd > 2nd > 4th  :veryangry:

I must say though, I did like the suggestion that it was a stress test  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on April 19, 2021, 11:50:22 AM
My wife is classed as highly vulnerable to Covid-19 and had her first vaccination in February. She was due her second on Saturday, but had to have another (delayed) treatment within the 14 days before and was told she could not have the second vaccination on the due date, so was told to phone the GP today to re-arrange. She phoned, only to be told that they have no idea when they will get stocks again and have no further clinics planned for the type of vaccine she needs and to phone 119.

119 told her that as her first dose was through the GP, her second dose must be too and anyway, if they booked her in anywhere, she would almost certainly not get the correct type of second dose.

Back to the GP, whose only response was to "red flag" her for contact as soon as they know when vaccine will be available. She only has 12 days of the allowable window left and no clue when another clinic may be arranged.

Surely there must be some system for dealing with those that were unable to have their second dose and where the initial dose arranger is unable to arrange another date?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on April 19, 2021, 02:46:23 PM
don't worry.
IIRC initially the two doses were supposed to be 3 weeks apart, then because the govt wanted to get more people their first jab, it was increased to 12 weeks 'on the latest scientific advice'.

I'm sure it wont be long before it gets changed again. I think it's called moving the goal posts  >:(

the worry is what happens if you miss the 12 week window, do you need to start again.

we, unprofessional people would think that it would make sense to go ...
first dose 11th Feb, book appointment for second dose by 11th may, AND PUT IT ON THE CARD you get when you have your first dose.

but then, what would we know.

in the same way, the GP should know when treatment which stops her from having the second jab is planned, then it's no use giving her a appointment within the 14 days.

brewery, celebration, organise comes to mind.

hopefully you'll get it sorted in time, it all causes additional stress which is the last thing you need.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on April 19, 2021, 04:40:03 PM
decided to check with our GP surgery after this, and we are around week 9 from our first jab.

they are calling patients at 10 weeks to make appointments, so we should hear next week.

I explained SWMBO's situation re referral to Guys and possible surgery date, and explained that depending on when she got a date she might need to cancel any appointment, and so go outside her 12 week window.

'no problem, if that happens and you have a couple of day's before she needs to go, phone us and we will do our best to get her a cancellation so she gets her second dose before she goes in, and within her 12 week window'.  :thumbsup:

so it seems that some surgeries are being as helpful as they can, maybe others not so.

I can always get mine as and when, but as she is also at risk I'd hate to have her worrying that she'd missed her second jab on top of everything else.

it is so good to have a great surgery with helpful staff.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on April 19, 2021, 07:14:48 PM
So, several months ago I stripped the paper from the spare room (inc ceiling) which took three days. The house was built in 37 so is lathe and plaster and big lumps came out so I needed a plasterer.
First quote to patch and skim walls and ceiling £800 but can't come till July now
2nd quote £650 never got back to me with availability despite numerous texts
3rd quote £400 and pencilled in for this Tuesday, perfect, took a week off work (I've been working all the way through covid). Text this morning...... can I push you back to Thursday Lawrence? current job entails more work  :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry:
Seems I can't argue as I may never get another plasterer this century!
I appreciate the trades are busy as hell but I want to get this place on the market this year, why under estimate jobs and inconvenience others. I have taken a weeks holiday thinking I could start painting Fri/Sat, now I'm going to be doing full days and painting evening.
He better do a good job
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: acook on April 19, 2021, 07:37:34 PM
Having been a builder for 35 years, I was going to reply to this, but in the interests of not upsetting people, i won't.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Lawrence on April 19, 2021, 08:00:14 PM
Quote from: acook on April 19, 2021, 07:37:34 PM
Having been a builder for 35 years, I was going to reply to this, but in the interests of not upsetting people, i won't.
Why would you upset anyone @acook (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2095) ? If you are a professional tradesman and have your diary organised I don't see how this is an issue?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: honestjudge on April 19, 2021, 08:06:09 PM
I would imagine there are a lot of professional tradesman who have  stories about dodgy customers, I.e not paying, cancelling jobs and so on.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 19, 2021, 08:44:44 PM
I'm now getting mailed by the original company who quoted me for the conservatory roof asking if I still want to go ahead with the project. This from the owner who couldn't even drag his sorry carcass round to even offer a brochure but just sent a fitter to measure up - no brochure, no nothing. He was quite happy to sit at home doing everything by mail, despite me requesting a meeting for even 20 minutes, and he lives only 20 minutes away ::)
I just took the attitude they didn't need/want the work and went with someone far more professional in every respect. I don't even mind paying slightly more for that.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on April 19, 2021, 09:16:08 PM
Hope it was checkatrade, trading standards , appropriate body recommended and approved.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on April 19, 2021, 10:34:02 PM
Quote from: class37025 on April 19, 2021, 02:46:23 PM
don't worry.
IIRC initially the two doses were supposed to be 3 weeks apart, then because the govt wanted to get more people their first jab, it was increased to 12 weeks 'on the latest scientific advice'.

I'm sure it wont be long before it gets changed again. I think it's called moving the goal posts  >:(

Apparently 3 months is actually what they would have wanted in the first place. The only reason it was 3 weeks was that they wanted to shorten the time taken for testing and approval, so they tested at 3 weeks, instead of the preferred 3 months.

Quote from: class37025 on April 19, 2021, 02:46:23 PM
the worry is what happens if you miss the 12 week window, do you need to start again.

That's exactly the problem she has now. If she had to restart, then she'd still have to wait for Pfizer to become available (they want to use that for the most vulnerable as it has a higher level of protection) and she'd still have to shield for another 3 months and 3 weeks from whenever she got it - and with me likely to return to the office in the next two weeks and three children is secondary school and spending 2 hours a day on the buses, the risks remain high.

Quote from: class37025 on April 19, 2021, 02:46:23 PM
we, unprofessional people would think that it would make sense to go ...
first dose 11th Feb, book appointment for second dose by 11th may, AND PUT IT ON THE CARD you get when you have your first dose.

but then, what would we know.

That was what happened for me, but when she got her first dose, they were still deciding upon the gap between, so her second appointment was not arranged then.

Quote from: class37025 on April 19, 2021, 02:46:23 PM
in the same way, the GP should know when treatment which stops her from having the second jab is planned, then it's no use giving her a appointment within the 14 days.

brewery, celebration, organise comes to mind.

To be fair, the treatment she had was at hospital and she was advised not to have it because of her upcoming appointment. However, a) until she had the treatment, she was in so much pain that she could hardly get out of bed, could not stand for more than a minute and could not walk further than the end of the garden and back, so it became the priority and b) no-one had advised that her existing appointment was on the last day of the last clinic and so could not be moved back by the four days needed.

Quote from: class37025 on April 19, 2021, 02:46:23 PM
hopefully you'll get it sorted in time, it all causes additional stress which is the last thing you need.

Stress is indeed one of the last things she needs - she is currently being investigated for possible heart problems - resting BP typically 170/100 and heart rate anything from 120 per minute and up! No apparent cause and the reason that her hospital treatment was put back into the 14 day window in the first place - she went to a previous appointment and ended up in the Urgent Care Centre and was finding sticky electrode pads for days!

To add to the annoyance, the organisation is actually coordinated via the CCG - whose website quotes a contact number that does not actually exist and who are based in the town hall, whose reception phone is not being answered!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on April 19, 2021, 10:42:57 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on April 19, 2021, 07:14:48 PM
So, several months ago I stripped the paper from the spare room (inc ceiling) which took three days. The house was built in 37 so is lathe and plaster and big lumps came out so I needed a plasterer.
First quote to patch and skim walls and ceiling £800 but can't come till July now
2nd quote £650 never got back to me with availability despite numerous texts
3rd quote £400 and pencilled in for this Tuesday, perfect, took a week off work (I've been working all the way through covid). Text this morning...... can I push you back to Thursday Lawrence? current job entails more work  :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry:
Seems I can't argue as I may never get another plasterer this century!
I appreciate the trades are busy as hell but I want to get this place on the market this year, why under estimate jobs and inconvenience others. I have taken a weeks holiday thinking I could start painting Fri/Sat, now I'm going to be doing full days and painting evening.
He better do a good job

I can see where it is likely that tradesmen plan for a job, but then find a problem on site and so need to spend an extra day or two on the job.

My parents' next-door neighbour is a (retired) plasterer and on one job, he accidentally locked himself out of the house he was working on - losing time gaining access and on putting right the plaster that had gone off on the ceiling before being properly finished. I know that one, because I got a call from my parents, asking me to bring their ladder back urgently, so he could get in through an upstairs window (he happened to be working on another neighbour's house at the time).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on April 21, 2021, 04:54:01 PM
A bit annoyed today, I tried to organise the second vaccine for my 83 year old father in law. He can't have his second vaccine because of supply problems with the Pfizer  vaccine, our so called friends in the EU holding them back I imagine.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 21, 2021, 09:26:41 PM
I could be wrong but I believe the Phizer vaccine is made in Belgium from all or mainly UK ingredients. My first thought when the AstraZeneca one was going to be withheld by the EU was that we should retaliate by holding the Phizer ingredients.
I'm not being political, just stating my opinion and it could be based on incorrect facts.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on April 21, 2021, 09:42:11 PM
Some of you may find this item regarding Pfizer and the Covid vaccine interesting -

https://time.com/5955247/inside-biontech-vaccine-facility/
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Alcazar on April 22, 2021, 08:22:52 PM
A super video - BioNTech started their own production in Marburg a just couple of weeks ago. They have had massive support from the German government and debt funding from the EU. Pfizer produces in the USA and Belgium.

Peter



Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on May 06, 2021, 09:23:36 AM
Earlier today I heard some sort of loudspeaker truck going around saying something about face masks. I initially assumed it was something from the local authority (we're in a "state of emergency" at the moment) who are not unknown to go around broadcasting public service messages, but listening more closely it was actually urging people, particularly children, to remove their facemasks for a bunch of specious reasons, and moreover it was going around the local primary school (as attended by the Squidlet) in the middle of the school day. Anyway I leapt onto the Squid-o-cycle and tracked it down (turned out to be from some dubious organisation I'd never heard of) took some photos and video, and took the opportunity to share some choice words with the driver (which didn't take long as he hastily drove off).

Police said they couldn't do anything, which is what I expected, but I reported it on principle, as if no-one does anything, nothing will ever happen.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on May 06, 2021, 09:33:10 AM
Ooh, that's not good.

I thought you'd been a bit quiet lately, and I know there's a Tokyo alert at the moment.

If it's any consolation, we've just gone back to masks here.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on May 06, 2021, 09:45:24 AM
Quote from: Bealman on May 06, 2021, 09:33:10 AM
Ooh, that's not good.

I thought you'd been a bit quiet lately, and I know there's a Tokyo alert at the moment.

If it's any consolation, we've just gone back to masks here.

Yeah, I heard about your mystery case,

Someone evidently brought back a nice new variant from that island off the northwest coast of Europe here, and it has turned into a 4th wave. I think with "Corona Classic" we might just have made it into vaccine season (which will be later in the year in these parts) without too much difficulty, but this exciting new version seems more virulent than existing measures can cope with.

Mainly been busy with work though.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on May 06, 2021, 09:48:31 AM
 :laughabovepost: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Young Bulla on May 06, 2021, 12:11:44 PM

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/109/6112-060521121118.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=109408)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on May 12, 2021, 05:07:04 PM
We've been pretty careful over the last 14 months - especially as my wife is classed as extremely vulnerable and she is still waiting for her second injection. Yet, today our eldest son came home from school and told me that one of his classmates had a positive test, but because they did not want to miss the exams, kept quiet and came in for the the day before the exam, the exam day and the day after and was presumably going to carry on coming in :censored: They only got found out because they confided in the girlfriend of another classmate, who told her boyfriend. Now everyone in the year and all of their families are at risk :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on May 12, 2021, 06:37:34 PM
I don't know how old the 'culprit' is, but that has to be down to the parents. Two words spring to mind, one of them is selfish. I hope your wife in particular is not affected in any way.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on May 12, 2021, 07:15:52 PM
The culprit is more than old enough to know better - they're in upper sixth.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on May 12, 2021, 08:32:10 PM
Parents have the greatest blame for letting their son go to the school, but the boy himself is old enough to know that he has a personal responsibility for all his actions, just like the rest of us
With my wife being in the same position as yours Steve, that is, clinically very vulnerable and having had only one jab so far, I can share your fury.

Here's hoping that this stupidity does not lead to a local surge in Covid infections.

Meanwhile, it might be an idea to find out if there are any wooden stocks in your area that need a thorough testing. ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 12, 2021, 09:11:14 PM
Quote from: Only Me on May 12, 2021, 08:40:41 PM
Must be a lottery I'm 44 not classed as vulnerable and I had my second pfizer shot last Friday

Damn well must be. I'm 67 and don't get my 2nd jab until this Friday >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on May 12, 2021, 09:26:19 PM
I'm a sprightly young 56 and I had my 2nd today  :P  I think it's because they think I'm fat  :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on May 12, 2021, 09:33:46 PM
I am very nearly 70 and do not get my second jab until July!   :scowl:

Oh hang on, different country.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on June 02, 2021, 01:37:43 PM
OK, I've been on the naughty step for weeks and weeks and weeks...

my own fault, and honestly I am trying to resolve my issues ....

but I'm back hear, where I seem to belong, again.....

over the weekend I was painting some 1:76 wargames vehicless for a couple of friends, and ran out of one rattle can of Humbrol  >:(

what is it they say, PPPPPP ?  :-[

so it's a bank holiday weekend, and Hattons are not going to re-open till tuesday, but if I put my order in, and add a few more cans, it will be sent tuesday by DPD next day, so I'll get it wednesday and can finish the vehicles before the weekend !  :thumbsup:

but no, that is too simple.

parcel despatched yesterday by Hattons  :thumbsup:
then DPD 'sort it '  :thumbsdown:

so I get an e-mail from Hattons, your parcel will be delivered tomorrow, ie today.

this morning I get an e-mail to say 'there is a delay with your parcel'  :'(

go onto DPD

Date & Time   Location   Description
02 Jun 2021 09:23   Exeter   There's a delay with your parcel and we've now sorted it
02 Jun 2021 07:53   Exeter   Your parcel is at our Clyst Honiton depot
01 Jun 2021 18:20   Liverpool   We have your parcel and it's on its way to you
01 Jun 2021 17:17   Hattons   We've received your order details, but have not yet received your parcel

they have sent my parcel, from Liverpool to West Sussex, to  :censored: Devon.
it is now on it's holiday with a bucket and spade on the beach. :veryangry:

what is even more annoying, is that the DPD drivers who deliver here are great, we have a DPD depot just outside town, but some cretin either can't read or be bothered to do his/her/it's job properly, and either sorted it into the wrong cage, or loaded the wrong cage onto the truck.

and has anyone ever found a way to contact DPD by phone ?

last time I tried the only number I could find charged £3 A MINUTE  :censored: :censored: :censored:

hopefully someone in the Exeter depot can actually read, and the parcel will be on tonight's truck, probably back to Liverpool ready to start all over again.  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on June 02, 2021, 04:11:46 PM
DPD customer services number 0121 275 0500
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on June 02, 2021, 04:39:06 PM
@TrevL (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5583)  many thanks for that.

after a ten minute wait I actually got connected to a human who could not explain why my parcel is in Devon.

it is now apparently heading up to Westerham depot in Kent, inspite of Burgess hill haveing a DPD blue logo and a DPD red logo depot less than a mile from my house.

hopefully, having enjoyed it's holiday in Devon, my parcel will be delivered tomorrow by one of the drivers who can actually read and take a pride in doing their job.

for some reason, DPD seemed to think I had another parcel number  :hmmm: but once I put them right, they were able to find ??? it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on June 02, 2021, 05:58:33 PM
On the upside, your paint will be nicely relaxed, which has got to aid application, surely?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on June 02, 2021, 08:54:59 PM
Some years ago I ordered some kippers by post. They used to pack the unwrapped fish in cabbage leaves. Royal Mail tried to deliver but I wasn't in. I rang up and requested a morning delivery. I had to leave for work at 2:30 and they still hadn't delivered. I had to go to the depot. The guy on the desk said he didn't know if he could find it. I told him he had 10 mins before I left him with it. In those days if you didn't pick up a parcel they had to keep it for 6 months before they could dispose of it. When I told him it was fresh kippers, he suddenly remembered where it was.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 02, 2021, 09:26:15 PM
Sounds like Alan's paint has done more miles than Michael Portaloo :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on June 02, 2021, 10:15:17 PM
latest update according to DPD ......
02 Jun 2021 20:48   Hub 5 - Hinckley   We have your parcel, and it's on its way to our Westerham depot
02 Jun 2021 09:23   Exeter   There's a delay with your parcel and we've now sorted it
02 Jun 2021 07:53   Exeter   Your parcel is at our Clyst Honiton depot
01 Jun 2021 18:20   Liverpool   We have your parcel and it's on its way to you
01 Jun 2021 17:17   Hattons   We've received your order details, but have not yet received your parcel

isn't Hinkley near Birmingham / Manchester ?

so to get to Burgess Hill, west susses from Liverpool it's gone
Liverpool - Exeter - Hinkley - hdg Westerham [Kent] then hopefully turning right and finally heading to Sussex. :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on June 03, 2021, 04:06:22 AM
Quote from: class37025 on June 02, 2021, 10:15:17 PM
isn't Hinkley near Birmingham / Manchester ?

Between Coventry and Leicester.

Still plenty of opportunity for a northern detour (https://www.dpd.com/group/en/2018/09/19/dpd-uk-opens-its-largest-purpose-built-distribution-centre-to-date/)  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on June 03, 2021, 10:02:49 AM
for a moment I was worried that @railsquid (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3832) had put a jinx on it, but according to the latest update

03 Jun 2021 09:18   Westerham   Your parcel will be with you today between 10:39 and 11:39
03 Jun 2021 06:36   Westerham   Your parcel has arrived at our Westerham depot
03 Jun 2021 06:35   Westerham   Your parcel has arrived at our Westerham depot
02 Jun 2021 20:48   Hub 5 - Hinckley   We have your parcel, and it's on its way to our Westerham depot
02 Jun 2021 09:23   Exeter   There's a delay with your parcel and we've now sorted it
02 Jun 2021 07:53   Exeter   Your parcel has arrived at our Clyst Honiton depot
01 Jun 2021 18:20   Liverpool   We have your parcel and it's on its way to you
01 Jun 2021 17:17   Hattons   We've received your order details, but have not yet received your parcel

according to the e-mail I received Craig will deliver it, hopefully not a repeat of a couple of parcels ago ...

DPD van pulls up, I shut HB in and open front door as the driver comes down the drive ...

"Morning Craig"

puzzled look on his face  :hmmm:

"I'm David, looks like they still haven't changed the e-mail"  :-[

some months ago one of the drivers pulled up outside, but just sat in his van. after about five minutes I went out, and from a suitable social distance asked if he had a parcel for me.

yes was the answer, but he couldn't deliver it yet because he was five minutes before the start of my one hour slot, and his computer would only allow him to deliver within the slot.

the computers are taking over the world.

we chatted for a few more minutes, the magic time arrived and he was able to hand over my parcel and head off to his next drop.


update at 10:53

horay, it's arrived, and it was Craig, so they got that right.
also leared that the depot at Burgess Hill is referred to as Westerham, even though Westerham is in Kent. there is also a Burgess Hill depot. perhaps one is DPD blue and one DPD red ?

still, HB now to be walked, then I can get on with spraying the vehicles, SWMBO permitting  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ian Bowden on June 03, 2021, 02:30:10 PM
My last DPD delivery still awol 2 months later 

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on June 03, 2021, 03:16:58 PM
A case of wine ordered just before Xmas a couple of years ago went AWOL with DPD. The company replaced it but delivered it themselves.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 04, 2021, 09:48:36 PM
Reasons to be angry – Part 1

Following blood tests at my GPs a couple of weeks ago I had to monitor my blood pressure twice a day for a week then call in the results. Seems my BP is a bit high at 145/67 average. I've been told they want that down to average 135/77 (and it hasn't been that low for more years than I can recall) and they've changed my statins. They just happened to have changed them to one I suffered leg pains with a couple of years ago and they changed them then to the one I've been taking since with no leg pains. ::)
I cut short a lunch with Mother and eldest Sis today to be back for a phone call from the practice nurse and I was going to mention that quite forcefully. However, I sat in all afternoon with no call received. I have a telephone appointment with my GP next Tuesday and I think he may well wish he hadn't called.

Reasons to be angry – Part 2

I get my dual power from Eon who have recently informed me by mail they are changing to EonNext and how good everything will be with improved service etc. etc.
I noticed this week my smart meter has shown I've used no gas or electricity at all this week so I called them to see what was going on. I was on hold for 18.3 minutes without even a 'Your call is important to us' or 'Please kiss my butt' or anything.  I finally got through to a lass who told me my 1st generation smart meter was no longer compatible with their new system and that my account had reverted to the old type system whereby I have to send them a meter reading each month (they can dream on for that happening) but if I was expressing an interest maybe (note the maybe) they could supply me a compatible smart meter by the end of this year. My remarks of 'You call this progress, do you?' and 'Sounds like someone's got the chicken and the egg the wrong way round' just met with agreement by the lass concerned. At least removing my obsolete smart meter has freed up a power socket in the kitchen.
There has to be some benefit from all today's ordure.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on June 05, 2021, 11:01:59 AM
I had trouble with statins a few years ago. They did cause cramps at night, so I take them in the morning now.
For the last 2 years or so Scottish Power have been pestering me to get a smart meter. I've refused until now as they were fitting first generation meters and I knew that they were not all compatible with all energy companies. They are now fitting second generation meters so I'm getting one fitted in the next couple of weeks. The reason being that they've been estimating my bills and upping the direct debit. Hopefully this will stop them doing that.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on June 05, 2021, 09:38:33 PM
My wife organised a Sainsburys delivery for this afternoon and the kids put it away. They no longer tell you what items have been substituted or are missing at the time, nor do they give you a printed list, instead they email it. No email today and it was only when I went to get some items out to cook the kids' tea, that I found out they'd substituted some of tonight's items with something that they simply won't eat!

It was all so much easier when the just handed you the printed sheet and let you know about any changes, leaving time to go out and get a replacement.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Railwaygun on June 05, 2021, 09:55:51 PM
Quote from: Malc on June 05, 2021, 11:01:59 AM
I had trouble with statins a few years ago. They did cause cramps at night, so I take them in the morning now.
For the last 2 years or so Scottish Power have been pestering me to get a smart meter. I've refused until now as they were fitting first generation meters and I knew that they were not all compatible with all energy companies. They are now fitting second generation meters so I'm getting one fitted in the next couple of weeks. The reason being that they've been estimating my bills and upping the direct debit. Hopefully this will stop them doing that.

The main benefits to the power companies of smart meters is that they can remotely cut the power off to individuals / districts , when we have still cloudy days , and  the Hamster is off sick!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NinOz on June 11, 2021, 06:31:32 AM
In a really cheesed off mood.  Tried to book up for a much delayed Covid vaccine shot.  However I have had a runny nose within the last 14 days so am not allowed. :veryangry:
My runny nose is due to cold air and blossoms from local plants, hay fever.  At this rate I will not get a shot until early summer.
That will teach me not to answer truthfully in future. :-X
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on June 11, 2021, 06:45:13 AM
Yeah I'm getting my first jab next week. I just ticked all the no boxes.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on June 11, 2021, 04:43:44 PM
Quote from: NinOz on June 11, 2021, 06:31:32 AM
In a really cheesed off mood.  Tried to book up for a much delayed Covid vaccine shot.  However I have had a runny nose within the last 14 days so am not allowed. :veryangry:
My runny nose is due to cold air and blossoms from local plants, hay fever.  At this rate I will not get a shot until early summer.
That will teach me not to answer truthfully in future. :-X

I turned up for my second jab and while I was in the queue, had to have a hayfever-induced sneeze - cue an appearance by two (non-socially distancing) people in dayglo vests and a brief interrogation as to why. I had just got a new batch of my antihistamine medication so I was able to wave that in their direction and reassure them that my involuntary action wasn't Covid-related...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: talisman56 on June 11, 2021, 04:59:18 PM
In other news, Mrs talisman had her car insurance renewal from the ones with the red telephone on wheels. Premium up 3.6%, but she said she would let them renew it.

Reading the letter again, she discovered that despite the policy being on auto-renewal, if said thet she had to renew it manually. The renewal bit was OK, but when it came to contacing an agent to take payment, the d*rn thing timed out. She later got an email which said to use a link to get back in contact so she could pay. Before connecting to an agent, is asked some security questions, which she answered, then it said someting isn't correct (all three answers were).

I suggested going through the renewal again, and the same thing happened, but when trying to get back to an agent it accepted the answers to the security questions. There then followed two days of trying to get in touch with an agent to pay, each time getting the same 'Sorry, everyone's busy' response. I took over on the morning of the third day and phoned up immediately they opened up at 08:00 and then paid using her card.

Later on, she got an email asking 'how did we do?' Every question marked with the lowest possible rating and a bit of a roasting in the 'free-form' text box at the end...

If they do the same to me when my renewal comes up at the end of the year, I won't wait beyond three attempts, They'll have a couple of ex-customers...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on June 18, 2021, 04:15:05 PM
Quotefrom the BBC: Many fans have travelled despite warnings they should not go to London unless they have a match ticket.

Sorry but I have absolutely no time for people like this. Deliberately flouting rules and guidance and endangering others. If I had my way they would be rounded up, fined and sent home in cattle wagons behind an 08 shunter.

I should add that this is not intended to turn political, just an observation of mindless idiots in my opinion.

(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/12EB9/production/_118979477_hi068085191-1.jpg)
Image linked courtesy of the BBC web pages.

Link to BBC article here (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-57516928)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on June 18, 2021, 04:55:07 PM
What happened to those water-cannon bojo bought a few years back?!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on June 18, 2021, 05:04:05 PM
probably can't be used because of their 'human right' to act like idiots.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on June 19, 2021, 02:31:10 PM
I suppose the only consolation is that they will take the infections away with them.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on June 19, 2021, 02:34:36 PM
Quote from: talisman56 on June 11, 2021, 04:43:44 PM
Quote from: NinOz on June 11, 2021, 06:31:32 AM
In a really cheesed off mood.  Tried to book up for a much delayed Covid vaccine shot.  However I have had a runny nose within the last 14 days so am not allowed. :veryangry:
My runny nose is due to cold air and blossoms from local plants, hay fever.  At this rate I will not get a shot until early summer.
That will teach me not to answer truthfully in future. :-X

I turned up for my second jab and while I was in the queue, had to have a hayfever-induced sneeze - cue an appearance by two (non-socially distancing) people in dayglo vests and a brief interrogation as to why. I had just got a new batch of my antihistamine medication so I was able to wave that in their direction and reassure them that my involuntary action wasn't Covid-related...

not Covid, you just have Plague, carry on. :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on June 19, 2021, 05:52:30 PM
Quote from: class37025 on June 18, 2021, 05:04:05 PM
probably can't be used because of their 'human right' to act like idiots.

That was what was said at the time. The water cannon were then sold off at a loss.

However, EU countries do use water cannon and the same Human Rights apply, so I don't know why they can't be used here ... with bright orange, indelible dye.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on June 19, 2021, 06:56:38 PM
comment self censored cause I've been on the naughty step for so long.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on June 19, 2021, 08:47:38 PM
Perhaps we could take that water-cannon out of storage and do a few mods.

We could replace the blue lights with green lights. Cover the Police vinyls with NHS ones. Then fill the water tanks with hand sanitiser and hey-presto! Ladies and gentleman I present bojo's latest tactic to fight the pandamic... the Covid-Cannon! :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: weave on June 19, 2021, 08:56:44 PM
Think you should change the word 'mods' to 'alterations' or you might be in a bit of bother with, well the mods  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 19, 2021, 09:39:58 PM
Quote from: weave on June 19, 2021, 08:56:44 PM
Think you should change the word 'mods' to 'alterations' or you might be in a bit of bother with, well the mods  :D

Exactly - I don't want to be 'done' with a water cannon, thank you very much :no: ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on June 19, 2021, 10:45:35 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod_(subculture)

is this a photo of a young @newportnobby ??
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 20, 2021, 02:13:31 PM
@class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311) That link takes me to a 'The page "Mod (subculture" does not exist page, Alan ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on June 20, 2021, 02:17:27 PM
This one (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod_(subculture)) exists  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on June 20, 2021, 02:28:29 PM
my apologies, I copied / pasted the link from that page, so I do not know what went wrong  :-[ :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 20, 2021, 02:46:56 PM
Completely the opposite actually. I was a greebo tearing around on a Triumph at that time :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on June 20, 2021, 05:56:12 PM
But now you're a skinhead, with hair 3mm long  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 20, 2021, 06:01:17 PM
Quote from: joe cassidy on June 20, 2021, 05:56:12 PM
But now you're a skinhead, with hair 3mm long  ;)

And a 650cc Kawasaki :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 29, 2021, 05:20:11 PM
Found myself with a spare hour between 17.00 and 18.00 so thought I'd maybe watch the 1st half of England v Germany. I was greeted with the sight and sound of England 'supporters' booing the German national anthem and immediately turned the TV off. What a bunch of yobs. I would bet Gareth Southgate was also cringing. I won't  :censored: bother again
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on June 30, 2021, 10:04:46 AM
Unfortunately football has, in recent times, attracted right wing groups. It's less of a sport to them, more like a combat zone.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 30, 2021, 12:00:56 PM
There's been naff all but piggin' football on BBC Breakfast this morning yet booing the opposition's national anthem gets no mention. Looks to me like the nation is condoning what was done.
Sorry, but I think decent manners/sportsmanship has gone for good as far as this particular sport goes :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Yet_Another on June 30, 2021, 12:16:50 PM
Makes a change from covid, then. I didn't see the football, but to be fair, I wouldn't want a moment of national shame to be re-broadcast, either.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on June 30, 2021, 01:00:06 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on June 30, 2021, 12:00:56 PM
........ booing the opposition's national anthem gets no mention. Looks to me like the nation is condoning what was done.

They talked about it on radio 2 earlier.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 30, 2021, 01:53:20 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on June 30, 2021, 01:00:06 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on June 30, 2021, 12:00:56 PM
........ booing the opposition's national anthem gets no mention. Looks to me like the nation is condoning what was done.

They talked about it on radio 2 earlier.

Radio? ??? Whassat? :confused2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on June 30, 2021, 02:00:32 PM
Sorry, "wireless" to you  ::)

(https://www.lolliprops.ie/images/uploads/theme/Wireless-Radio-Prop-to-Rent-lolliprops.ie.jpg)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on June 30, 2021, 02:09:16 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on June 30, 2021, 02:00:32 PM
Sorry, "wireless" to you  ::)

(https://www.lolliprops.ie/images/uploads/theme/Wireless-Radio-Prop-to-Rent-lolliprops.ie.jpg)

Still a bit modern for the old fella, how about something from his era...

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/111/5604-300621140857.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=111249)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on June 30, 2021, 02:10:44 PM
sorry, let me explain ....

TV without the pictures ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 30, 2021, 03:22:59 PM
@Trainfish (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=262) Somehow I suspect your 'wireless' still has a mains wire :hmmm:
@emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604) That's more like it, but I reckon that would not pick up "Radio Caroline" from under the bedclothes. :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on June 30, 2021, 04:48:32 PM
or Radio Luxembourg .....

we are delving back in time.

what was the radio station on one of the WWII sea forts ?


update, just found this .....
didn't know it was still going.
https://www.radiocaroline.co.uk/#support_group.html (https://www.radiocaroline.co.uk/#support_group.html)

found the answer to my question ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_City_(pirate_radio_station) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_City_(pirate_radio_station))

Screaming Lord Sutch, would be at home in the lords these days  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on July 11, 2021, 10:56:58 PM
England Failure

Just watched the penalty shoot out - two ridiculous penalties cost us the result!!!  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 11, 2021, 11:02:23 PM
Its only a game some say. Team did ok back to railway modelling and the real world for me !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: AlexanderJesse on July 11, 2021, 11:47:07 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on July 11, 2021, 10:56:58 PM
England Failure

Just watched the penalty shoot out - two ridiculous penalties cost us the result!!!  :veryangry:

Maybe the punishment for the ridiculous bad referee-performance and the even worse laser pointer attack during the Denmark game?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: AlexanderJesse on July 11, 2021, 11:53:01 PM
Quote from: AlexanderJesse on July 11, 2021, 11:47:07 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on July 11, 2021, 10:56:58 PM
England Failure

Just watched the penalty shoot out - two ridiculous penalties cost us the result!!!  :veryangry:

Maybe the punishment for the ridiculous bad referee-performance and the even worse laser pointer attack during the Denmark game?

Let's hope that next year at the WC the same final is played again... then there would be a chance for revenge...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on July 12, 2021, 01:25:23 AM
I was disappointed at the England result this morning, but apart from the penalty disaster, I thought they played ok.

What I am really angry about, though, is our covid situation. There were 77 new cases yesterday, the problem area being SW Sydney.

For those of you who don't live here, this area of Sydney is predominantly a multicultural ethnic community, who are used to living the way they did back home - strong family ties, family get togethers, and so on.

The government are on the TV non-stop, saying that this latest outbreak is being spread at a household family level, and telling everyone to stay home and NOT visit friends and family.

So what happened yesterday? Fifteen 50 year old blokes playing cards in an apartment, because that's their routine. These people use "I no understand English" as an excuse. Bull. They understand alright, they're just breaking the rules that the rest of us are following.

The lockdown is already extended.... don't these clowns realise that their self-centred behaviour is only going to get us a longer lockdown?  :veryangry: >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on July 12, 2021, 03:30:35 AM
Just read they're reporting 112 NSW cases today. Seems a big number for Australia...

Here in sunny Tokyo we are now on Day 1 of a six week "state of emergency" (the fourth...) timed to cover the Olympics (probably quite sensible as it pretty much squashes Covid as a spectator sport), but which also covers the school summer holidays and further restricts the range of activities which can be undertaken with a small child.

On the plus side Mrs. Railsquid has now also bagged a vaccination appointment, albeit for the start of September.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on July 12, 2021, 04:45:08 AM
Yeah, 112 today. Just about all of them in the same area of Sydney, and most of them in entire families.  :veryangry:

Yes, you're not travelling real well in Tokyo either, by the looks of it. I'm pleased to hear that Mrs R has got a vaccination appointment.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 12, 2021, 09:29:37 AM
Quote from: Bealman on July 12, 2021, 01:25:23 AM

So what happened yesterday? Fifteen 50 year old blokes playing cards in an apartment, because that's their routine. These people use "I no understand English" as an excuse. Bull. They understand alright, they're just breaking the rules that the rest of us are following.


Fine them heavily - say the equivalent of £1000 per person and £10,000 for whoever organised it.
That might stop the selfish gits.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on July 12, 2021, 09:34:51 AM
Nice to know ignorance and selfishness is universal and not just restricted to our shores.

:veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Nbodger on July 12, 2021, 09:42:04 AM
Quote from: emjaybee on July 12, 2021, 09:34:51 AM
Nice to know ignorance and selfishness is universal and not just restricted to our shores.

:veryangry:

Err didn't we send them there!  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: acko22 on July 12, 2021, 10:49:56 AM
So my gripe for the day! Well the small minority of England fans who seem intent on giving us a bad name!

While I am like many proud of what the England team have achieved under Gareth Southgate over the past 2 tournaments, there is that small minority of fans who seem to think that acting like idiots and savages like in the 70/80s is acceptable.

4 incidents sadly prove how this small group has not buggered off into the past where they belong!

1) Laser pen been aimed a Schemichel in the Denmark game - Thankfully it didn't effect the keeper (his own words) and Denmark didn't raise a case which well they were more than entitled too!

2) Reports of hooliganism around various fan parks last night after the result - Why just why?

3) Idiots trying to break into Wembley during the game injuring 16 police - Well done idiots there goes our next bid to host a tournament and we haven't even began yet!

4) This one really  :censored: me off! Racist abuse directed at Rashford, Sancho and Saka! They have represented their country this whole tournament and honestly they as part of the team have done us proud.
Yes they missed penalties, but so did Kane and he just got lucky it was in normal play so could get the rebound!

I would love to see some of these racist idiots come from behind their keyboards and say some of the vile things to peoples faces, especially those who serve our country in the military or on another sporting note some of our national rugby teams some of whom are of Fijian heritage!
Be interesting to see how many racial slurs they get our before a Fijian heritage rugby player sends them to hospital!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: woodbury22uk on July 12, 2021, 11:04:44 AM
Countries which succeed tend to have most people pulling on the same end of the rope. Sadly there are always those who want to pull everyone off to the side, and a sad few who want to take away the rope altogether. The latter two categories get the media attention they crave.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on July 12, 2021, 11:05:08 AM
Quote from: Nbodger on July 12, 2021, 09:42:04 AM
Quote from: emjaybee on July 12, 2021, 09:34:51 AM
Nice to know ignorance and selfishness is universal and not just restricted to our shores.

:veryangry:

Err didn't we send them there!  ;)

Ahem...

:-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on July 12, 2021, 11:20:32 AM
I get angry when the vast majority of people tend to comment (on all media, not just here) only on the negatives in life, especially football. I'm a positive minded person who always tries to look at the good things. In the football for example, the best placing we've had for 55 years, 2 penalty saves by Pickford, a young team (average age of 24 I think) who can build on this placing, let's mention those instead. The more we report on the negatives the more some of these people will continue to misbehave as they see it as their 15 minutes of fame. A good example was when someone ran on the pitch at last night's game the cameras showed what else was happening and didn't give him the screen time he wanted.
I'm not saying the negative things didn't happen but let's all be a bit more positive about life eh?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on July 12, 2021, 11:59:41 AM
Well said John.  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Young Bulla on July 12, 2021, 06:04:05 PM
Errm, does having more overtime available than I could possibly want making breathing circuits, carbon dioxide scrubbers and ventilators count as something positive?
Over 500 cases province-wide today, a bank holiday, one where thousands are on the streets celebrating their 'culture and heritage'.
Just an observation of life here, not meant in any way to be taken personally and I wish you all the best in England when you 're-open next week.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on July 12, 2021, 06:49:11 PM
I too wish the best, but fear the worst. Just doesn't seem possible for some folk to take any responsibity in the absence of legislated restrictions. I'll still be minimizing my travel and wearing a mask when in public. And while a drunken minority in England think the world ended at ~10:30 last night, for 26 UK (and 11,550 global) families their world was devasted by Covid yesterday.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on July 12, 2021, 07:02:47 PM
Without sticking up for any politician (we don't do that on here) we as a country are in a very difficult position at the moment. We need to open up for some reasons but not for others. I really think it's about time that people actually thought for themselves rather than having to be told what to do. When all this started we were reminded to wash our hands etc. What really concerned me was (and still does) is that I have never needed to be told to wash my hands after going to the toilet but it seems some did, and still do  :(
My big concern recently is when we are told certain restrictions will be lifted in 1 week, 2 weeks or whatever and a certain percentage of the population ignore those restrictions immediately saying, "oh it's only a week or 2, what difference will it make?" Quite a lot actually, compare the number of cases today to what they were 2 weeks ago. I just wish we didn't have to give notice like this and that rules could change at the drop of a hat.
Both myself and my wife will still wear a facemask in shops etc and sometimes outside if we feel it is necessary. We will still test ourselves twice a week and we will avoid busy places for some time yet. I feel sorry for shopworkers etc who have no choice but to face a non mask wearing public all day and believe this will play a major part in any increase in positive cases. I know of a couple of shops here who say customers still won't be allowed in without a mask, good on them. Unfortunately neither of them are supermarkets.
It's a shame we can't all do the above as a minimum.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on July 12, 2021, 07:11:38 PM
Quote from: Young Bulla on July 12, 2021, 06:04:05 PM
Errm, does having more overtime available than I could possibly want making breathing circuits, carbon dioxide scrubbers and ventilators count as something positive?
Over 500 cases province-wide today, a bank holiday, one where thousands are on the streets celebrating their 'culture and heritage'.
Just an observation of life here, not meant in any way to be taken personally and I wish you all the best in England when you 're-open next week.

Where are you?

If you get a minute, and it sounds like you're very busy, update your profile so we know where in the world you are.

Stay safe!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Young Bulla on July 12, 2021, 07:36:08 PM
Six miles south of Ballymoney in Northern Ireland, been here 22 years now, In ad around the Manchester area before that.
Will sort out my profile once I have fed and watered the chickens
All the best
Stan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on July 13, 2021, 01:04:47 AM
Quote from: Bealman on July 12, 2021, 04:45:08 AM

Quote from: railsquid on July 12, 2021, 03:30:35 AM
Just read they're reporting 112 NSW cases today. Seems a big number for Australia...

Here in sunny Tokyo we are now on Day 1 of a six week "state of emergency" (the fourth...) timed to cover the Olympics (probably quite sensible as it pretty much squashes Covid as a spectator sport), but which also covers the school summer holidays and further restricts the range of activities which can be undertaken with a small child.

On the plus side Mrs. Railsquid has now also bagged a vaccination appointment, albeit for the start of September.

Yeah, 112 today. Just about all of them in the same area of Sydney, and most of them in entire families.  :veryangry:

Yes, you're not travelling real well in Tokyo either, by the looks of it. I'm pleased to hear that Mrs R has got a vaccination appointment.  :thumbsup:

In comparison with many other countries, this is but a gentle wavelet lapping up against the shore of Covid pestilence - remember, this is a country where the government has to issue guidelines in summer recommending people *not* to wear masks outside when it's hot - on the other hand the prefectures surrounding Tokyo (which are effectively part of the same conurbation) are merely in "extended prevention measures", not a "state of emergency", which means people are crossing into those to to get their mid-evening public drinking in, as the rules are slightly less strict there, so I'm betting the "state of emergency" will be extended to those in a week or two...

Meanwhile in less angry news, Mrs Railsquid's mother apparently got wind via the local grapevine of some cancellation slots opening up soon and cheekily phoned up and pretended to be Mrs Railsquid, so she (Mrs Railsquid) now has an appointment before the end of July  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Platy767 on July 13, 2021, 01:26:48 AM
A story in the online news about a young man who got 4 jabs. 2 AZ and 2 Pfizer. Apparently nobody refused him!
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/coronavirus-vaccine-rollout-sydney-man-gets-full-doses-of-astrazeneca-and-pfizer/news-story/fb79c9d6f8d233309f8da221eca4bc59 (https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/coronavirus-vaccine-rollout-sydney-man-gets-full-doses-of-astrazeneca-and-pfizer/news-story/fb79c9d6f8d233309f8da221eca4bc59)

I'm due for 2nd AZ in early September (12 weeks) although the health advice is varied and not ruling out a 6 or 8 week interval.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on July 13, 2021, 02:00:28 AM
Yeah, I'm due my second on Sept 9. I rang up yesterday and they're quite happy to put it forward a month, but unless things become bad here in Wollongong, I don't see much point in doing so.

Good result, Ian!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Graham on July 15, 2021, 09:46:30 AM
Lock down number 5, all because some idiot removalists from refused to obey the rules. Thank goodness I had my 2nd shot of AZ today.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on July 15, 2021, 10:22:02 AM
I think you missed NSW after "from"  :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on July 15, 2021, 10:42:41 AM
Quote from: Graham on July 15, 2021, 09:46:30 AM
Lock down number 5, all because some idiot removalists from refused to obey the rules. Thank goodness I had my 2nd shot of AZ today.

Please forgive the question, but what's a "removalist"?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MinZaPint on July 15, 2021, 10:52:06 AM


Please forgive the question, but what's a "removalist"?
[/quote]

Well that could be me  :-[ when I take down the "Jobs to do list" that my good lady has put up in hope!  :hmmm: :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 15, 2021, 11:45:38 AM
Quote from: emjaybee on July 15, 2021, 10:42:41 AM
Quote from: Graham on July 15, 2021, 09:46:30 AM
Lock down number 5, all because some idiot removalists from refused to obey the rules. Thank goodness I had my 2nd shot of AZ today.

Please forgive the question, but what's a "removalist"?

Sounds like this sort of cretin...................(sorry if I'm doing any cretins a disservice)

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/covid-denier-tobe-hayden-leigh-east-surrey-hospital-friend-163118952.html?.tsrc=fp_deeplink
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on July 15, 2021, 12:26:13 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 15, 2021, 11:45:38 AM
Quote from: emjaybee on July 15, 2021, 10:42:41 AM
Quote from: Graham on July 15, 2021, 09:46:30 AM
Lock down number 5, all because some idiot removalists from refused to obey the rules. Thank goodness I had my 2nd shot of AZ today.

Please forgive the question, but what's a "removalist"?

Sounds like this sort of cretin...................(sorry if I'm doing any cretins a disservice)

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/covid-denier-tobe-hayden-leigh-east-surrey-hospital-friend-163118952.html?.tsrc=fp_deeplink

Hmm, shame he can't 'remove' himself from the gene pool.

:veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Graham on July 15, 2021, 12:51:47 PM
Quote from: Bealman on July 15, 2021, 10:22:02 AM
I think you missed NSW after "from"  :(
So I did George, just really p***** off, thought we had gotten away with this round.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Yet_Another on July 15, 2021, 12:57:09 PM
Quote from: Graham on July 15, 2021, 12:51:47 PM
Quote from: Bealman on July 15, 2021, 10:22:02 AM
I think you missed NSW after "from"  :(
So I did George, just really p***** off, thought we had gotten away with this round.
But what is a removalist?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Nbodger on July 15, 2021, 01:24:51 PM
Quote from: Yet_Another on July 15, 2021, 12:57:09 PM
Quote from: Graham on July 15, 2021, 12:51:47 PM
Quote from: Bealman on July 15, 2021, 10:22:02 AM
I think you missed NSW after "from"  :(
So I did George, just really p***** off, thought we had gotten away with this round.
But what is a removalist?

A removal company or their employees
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on July 15, 2021, 02:32:42 PM
Quote from: Nbodger on July 15, 2021, 01:24:51 PM
Quote from: Yet_Another on July 15, 2021, 12:57:09 PM
Quote from: Graham on July 15, 2021, 12:51:47 PM
Quote from: Bealman on July 15, 2021, 10:22:02 AM
I think you missed NSW after "from"  :(
So I did George, just really p***** off, thought we had gotten away with this round.
But what is a removalist?

A removal company or their employees

I thought they were 'breakists'.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Graham on July 15, 2021, 11:48:38 PM
Quote from: Yet_Another on July 15, 2021, 12:57:09 PM
Quote from: Graham on July 15, 2021, 12:51:47 PM
Quote from: Bealman on July 15, 2021, 10:22:02 AM
I think you missed NSW after "from"  :(
So I did George, just really p***** off, thought we had gotten away with this round.
But what is a removalist?

Someone who works removing furniture from one location to anther is the closest I can come to an explanation. I have a vague memory we just called them removals men before I migrated to this side of the world. Of course today they will be removals people for the PC community.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on July 24, 2021, 11:06:58 AM
Our worst covid day in Sydney to date, and hundreds of "selfish buffheads" (police chief's words) out on the streets with no masks on, protesting about the lockdown.
There was violence and things thrown at police.  >:( :veryangry:

I hope the police view every bit of vision they have of the event and slap fines on all of these  :censored: idiots.

Apparently they have every intention of doing so. Good.  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 24, 2021, 11:51:05 AM
On BBC Breakfast news yesterday morning they interviewed a young (late 20's?) chap and asked if he'd been 'jabbed' yet, to which he replied 'No'. When asked why not he said he'd heard they could then track him, know where he was at any time, know what he has in his bank etc etc. Not sure who 'they are' (MI5 maybe?) but I just thought he'd been brainwashed. Then I thought maybe there wasn't one to wash in the first place ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on July 24, 2021, 11:54:20 AM
When the government report into COVID19 comes out the first line should read.

THE GOVERNMENT SEROIUOSLY UNDERESTIMATED THE STUPIDITY OF THE MAJORITY OF THE POPULATION   :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Yet_Another on July 24, 2021, 12:03:05 PM
Turns out, the govt isn't as good at viral memes as a bunch of deluded 20- & 30-somethings. No surprises there, then.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on July 24, 2021, 12:08:17 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 24, 2021, 11:51:05 AM
On BBC Breakfast news yesterday morning they interviewed a young (late 20's?) chap and asked if he'd been 'jabbed' yet, to which he replied 'No'. When asked why not he said he'd heard they could then track him, know where he was at any time, know what he has in his bank etc etc. Not sure who 'they are' (MI5 maybe?) but I just thought he'd been brainwashed. Then I thought maybe there wasn't one to wash in the first place ::)

Wait until he hears what "they" can track via his mobile phone...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on July 24, 2021, 12:26:05 PM
I guess that will make his brain head explode  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on July 24, 2021, 02:07:41 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 24, 2021, 11:51:05 AM
On BBC Breakfast news yesterday morning they interviewed a young (late 20's?) chap and asked if he'd been 'jabbed' yet, to which he replied 'No'. When asked why not he said he'd heard they could then track him, know where he was at any time, know what he has in his bank etc etc. Not sure who 'they are' (MI5 maybe?) but I just thought he'd been brainwashed. Then I thought maybe there wasn't one to wash in the first place ::)
And what's even more worrying is he was a vlogger/influencer so how many of his followers have hung on his every word.
The real gem though was the young woman immediately afterwards who hasn't been jabbed because she's suffers from asthmma so was worried what side affects the jab would have on her. Just what bit of being asthmatic and therefore at high risk of contracting severe covid doesn't she understand. We're all doomed as Private Fraser used to tell us!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 24, 2021, 05:20:33 PM
I'm quite sure there are many with genuine medical reasons for vaccination exemption but whichever way, I see no reason for the Scots to be inflicted with them :D :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on July 24, 2021, 05:35:14 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 24, 2021, 05:20:33 PM
I'm quite sure there are many with genuine medical reasons for vaccination exemption but whichever way, I see no reason for the Scots to be inflicted with them :D :no:

I did nearly suggest Rockal, with no dinghys allocated.

IIRC, it is covered at high tide, solving the problem.

but I did wonder if a bit extreme ... HB says grrr - rufff ruff, not sure if he agrees whicever way  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on July 24, 2021, 06:33:29 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gruinard_Island
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 24, 2021, 06:35:58 PM
True - the vaccinations won't prevent you getting Covid first time round or second time round but the effects are nowhere near as severe or as fatal as being unvaccinated.
True - some have died from cerebral blood clots but they are measured in tens in every million vaccinated so the odds are heavily in favour of getting jabbed. Every day of life is a risk if you lead a normal life so why give a virus a chance to add to those risks. Thousands also die of flu every year despite vaccines being available.
I can only speak for what I know/hear of in the UK but, IMHO, to not be vaccinated is to shorten the odds of contraction. We've had people die from eating something with an ingredient they're allergic to owing to it not being stated on a menu/packaging. I guess the answer is simple. Don't eat. There are endless examples of tragedy through human error (self inflicted or not)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 24, 2021, 08:56:03 PM
[gmod]I am temporarily locking this thread until the entire Mod team have had a chance to review the posts about Covid. Obviously there are differing opinions but maybe no right opinion which makes such a discussion pointless and leads to antagonism. Each to their own but maybe not on the forum[/gmod]
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 30, 2021, 10:08:54 AM
[gmod]The Mods and Admin team have reviewed the latest posts regarding Covid and removed some. Everyone needs to be aware that Covid, unless directly relating to yourself or your family, is now a taboo subject on the forum and should be treated just like politics as opinions tend to be personal views of persons involved and, in some cases, very abrasive. The forum Code of Conduct will be amended to reflect this. Mods will remove any posts they feel go against this. The thread is now open for business again [/gmod]
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: port perran on July 30, 2021, 11:12:38 AM
My mother's landline started to suffer intermittent problems on Monday.
She's 89 and relies on the landline - she's also got a Lifeline which relies on the telephone working.
My father died in late June and Virgin (who provide the landline) were notified the day after he died.

So....I call the Virgin help desk on Monday to raise an urgent engineer's visit.
It went badly wrong.
Helpdesk "Can I speak to Mr Scane the account holder"
Me "He died on 28th June and I informed your bereavement line"
Helpdesk "We can't do anything without speaking to Mr Scane"
Me "He's dead"
Helpdesk "You need to inform the bereavement team"
Me "I did that on 29th June.
Helpdesk "Ah...that can take up to 6 weeks to filter through"
Me "So how do I get help with my mother's phone?"
Helpdesk "Well just this once I can help, What is the account password?"
Me "I've no idea"
Helpdesk "In that case there is nothing I can do"
I then tell them about the urgency of the situation and that my mother is 89 years old etc.
Helpdesk "I'm sorry there is nothing we can do"
Me "Can I speak to your supervisor?"
Helpdesk "I'm sorry we are working from home due to Covid so my supervisor isn't here"
Me "No worries, call your supervisor and ask him to call me back"
Helpdesk "We cannot do that Sir"
Me "So...is your supervisor at home doing nothing them?"
Helpdesk "I can't comment on that Sir"

And so it went on with me becoming increasingly irate.

So....I hang up and try again with a different helpdesk person but with exactly the same result.

I try once more and this time get an awfully pleasant, helpful Indian sounding gentleman who went out of his way to help by applying common sense to sort the problem.
The phone is now fixed.
Virgin have a letter of complaint winging its way to them and the phone is being transferred to BT.
Virgin won't give a toss but their service is way, way below what is acceptable!
Rant Over
Martin
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 30, 2021, 11:37:16 AM
Glad you sorted it, Martin. "Virgin on the ridiculous" again ::)
My mother is 88 and I had to help with her car insurance and energy suppliers yesterday. They don't make life easy, do they?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on July 30, 2021, 11:58:57 AM
Oh it's not just an 'age' thing. I'm currently on hold, again, on a, so far, 1hr 10min call trying to renegotiate our land-line, broadband and mobile package with BT.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on July 30, 2021, 12:20:25 PM
Quote from: port perran on July 30, 2021, 11:12:38 AM

Helpdesk "Ah...that can take up to 6 weeks to filter through"


Replies like that really get my back up. Why on earth can the person you are dealing with not do whatever they need to do to confirm the facts with you and then say something like "I will ring the relevant department and put them in the picture. It will be sorted in an hour or two"? At least you did eventually talk to someone with some common sense Martin.  :thumbsup:

And as for trying to get money that is owed! The only company that has ever owed me any money and got it refunded to me with 24 hours is Amazon. With everybody else, it is a case of "it will be back in your account in 5/7 days".  I know interest rates are virtually nowt these days - but it is my money they are sitting on! >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on July 30, 2021, 12:40:18 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on July 30, 2021, 11:58:57 AM
Oh it's not just an 'age' thing. I'm currently on hold, again, on a, so far, 1hr 10min call trying to renegotiate our land-line, broadband and mobile package with BT.

Dunno, maybe it is an age thing. Finally sorted it out and realised that I was supposed to be upgrading our Broadband speed. So, have just got off another BT call cancelling that order and now have to call back tomorrow, Saturday, yeah that's gonna be painful, to start all over again.

:-[

:headbutt:

I'm off for a lie down in a dark room.

I find life rather taxing at the moment.   :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on July 30, 2021, 04:03:24 PM
@ port perran
glad you got it sorted, but unfortunately common with so called help desks, read script, brain disengaged, and easier to say @I can't do anything' than to actually engage brain and do something.

I found Virgin were absolutely 'awfull' at sorting anything, so I moved elsewhere.
but to be honest, a lot of them are just as bad.

I often wonder if some of the 'help centres' actually work for lots of companies, and depending on what number you phone, a different script appears on the screen.

or am I just a disillusioned old git  :hmmm:

probably that it  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on July 30, 2021, 04:25:14 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on July 30, 2021, 12:20:25 PM
[And as for trying to get money that is owed! The only company that has ever owed me any money and got it refunded to me with 24 hours is Amazon. With everybody else, it is a case of "it will be back in your account in 5/7 days".  I know interest rates are virtually nowt these days - but it is my money they are sitting on! >:(

When my M-I-L died, we had to cancel her cable TV with Virgin's forerunner (IIRC Cable and Wireless or Nynex). Whichever it was, accepted us calling, telling them that she'd died, cancelling the whole package and them issuing a refund by cheque, straight away, with no problem.

It turned out that their system did not have a box to tick for account terminated due to death and they marked such accounts by changing the account name to "Account Name (Deceased)".

A week later an envelope arrived, with a leaflet inside. The envelope was addressed to "Mrs. P.McGuinness (Deceased)" and the leaflet was from account retentions. The front was covered in slogans such as "We are sorry you have left", "Please come back to us" and the best, "We now have a team dedicated to bringing you back". It could have been very upsetting, but luckily we found it highly amusing.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on July 30, 2021, 04:32:52 PM
@stevewalker (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5329),
I now have a picture of a dedicated team of call handlers trying to revive her in my mind.

while I shouldn't I cannot help but laugh.

I am truely sorry for your loss, but this post has brightened my day.

:thankyousign:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 30, 2021, 09:19:03 PM
@class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311) And there was me thinking the re-opening of this thread would make your day, Alan ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 18, 2021, 11:49:17 AM
I don't know if it's a result of people still working from home but I find it's very difficult to get responses from firms.
When the conservatory roof was done the workers dislodged a piece of trim from one of the window blinds and obviously just swept it up. I contacted both the people who fitted the blinds and the actual manufacturer of the blinds to see if this small part was available and, if so, how much. That was over 5 weeks ago and I've had no reply from either of them. Somehow both are still in business ::)
Trying to get an answer out of Dapol on their 'Digest' site is like trying to get blood from a stone, despite tagging one of 'top brass'.

In contrast to the above, kudos to Philips electricals as I contacted their helpline on Monday and had an e mail response yesterday. Okay, I couldn't understand their reply and have requested clarification but they did respond quickly.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on August 18, 2021, 11:54:53 AM
As an aside

There was a resent report in a Call Centre Industry journal bemoaning the loss of staff whose first language is not English but due to having had to learn English formally their standard of English was superior to British employees.  :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on August 18, 2021, 11:58:36 AM
As a tradesman, I find I am currently swamped with calls, and I can not physically answer them all, so many get 'triage'd' with a number getting left unanswered. It's not ideal, and exceptionally stressful.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on August 18, 2021, 04:36:40 PM

Flaming Energy Suppliers!!!!!!!!

Finally decided it was high time I switched suppliers, especially as we still have Gas from one Supplier and Electrickery from another (Bad form, I know!!!)

Anyway, went to the first suppliers website and tried to set up a Login, only to find I already had one, who knew!!! Not me!!!  :-[ :-[ Tried my usual collection of Usernames, Email addresses & Passwords but wouldn't let me in, so clicked the 'Forgotten password' link, enter email address it says, so first email entered....wait 10 mins...no email!!! "Must be other email address then" thinks I. Put that one in.....wait 10 mins.....no email. :hmmm: :hmmm: :hmmm: thinks I, no other email address to use, so call them on the phone, hang on for 1/2 hour eventually talk to a human,, "What is your email address sir??" says Operative, gave her my email address, "Thats not the one we have here sir??" oh, gave her the other one "Not that one either sir!!" is the reply........"Erm so how are you sending me marketing emails then if neither of those email address are registered??" says I....."Errr dunno" says operative...."Anyway which one shall we use for your login account??" she says...gave her my email and the password reset email arrives, hunky dory, no more dramas there........until I log in and find I'm over £300 in Credit and no opportunity to reduce my Direct Debit!!! :veryangry: :veryangry: by now.

So ring Them back and ask for the cash to be refunded to my bank account, thinking brilliant am on holiday later this week, that'll go nicely for spending money....Nope, not a chance!! 7-10 working days before it'll be refunded to my account!!!! "You Effing What!!!" says I, "IF you wanted MY money, you'd take it in a heartbeat!!!" "Might not take 7-10 working days sir, it's our refund dept who deals with it and it can take them 3 days to process it" At this point I think I overtook Elon Musks rocket, 30,000ft and climbing rapidly........"But it might be sorted by the end of the week sir, I'll see what I can do" she says, "Right, Thank you" says I and hung up.

Log onto next providers website, check account, and guess what??? Go on I bet you can't.....


Yep, over £300 in Credit, get on the phone and guess what???..... Go on I bet you can't guess????


Yep, 7-10 days for the money to be refunded to your account.......Un-Chuffing-Believeable!!!!!    It's my money and I'd like it back please????


Ahh well, at least if it doesn't get back in time for our holidays, I should be able to use it for TINGS, unless SWMBO get's to it first  :D :D :D

Now safely back at Ground level and chilling with a beer, or 2  ;) ;)

Regards

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on August 18, 2021, 05:29:04 PM
Quote from: Calnefoxile on August 18, 2021, 04:36:40 PM
Finally decided it was high time I switched suppliers, especially as we still have Gas from one Supplier and Electrickery from another (Bad form, I know!!!)

Not necessarily. Both times that I have renewed/looked at changing, in recent years, going with two separate suppliers has turned out cheaper than going for a single one. The dual fuel offerings are probably playing on people remembering that it *was* generally cheaper to go dual fuel, some years ago, and that people won't bother investigating individual tariffs at all.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: StufromEGDL on August 18, 2021, 05:31:01 PM
Hi Neal,

Are you sure you didn't ring the same energy provider twice??

Later,
Stu from EGVN.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 24, 2021, 10:03:50 AM
Having given kudos to Philips Electricals for speed of responding to a tech query, I'm now snatching them back as the simplistic "Apply this update" did not work and when I informed them they've basically washed their hands of the product. They might just as well have said "Turn it off, turn it back on again and if it doesn't work, bin it" ::) Grrrrr.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 10, 2021, 10:53:33 AM
My Mother has not been feeling too well over the last couple of months - a little dizzy and a persistent cough. Bearing in mind all the adverts in the media tell folks to immediately report such she contacted her GP who didn't bother to see her but just sent her for a chest X ray (I must say at this point my Mother had a mastectomy about 5 years ago after cancer was discovered in her lymph glands). 3 weeks have gone past and nothing was heard about any results and Mum has started losing weight (she is only a lightweight at the best of times :worried:). Finally she decided to call the GP to see what results, if any, had been received, to be told "This is giffgaff, please leave a message" and before she could do anything it cut off. At last, this morning, she got through to the receptionist who asked what her call was concerning and the GP did, indeed, call her back 15 minutes later. Mother asked if any results had been received from Preston hospital and the GP replied "oh yes, we had those last week" Mother then asked whether she could be told the result and the GP replied that all was well/clear. On being asked why she hadn't informed Mother earlier, the GP stated they don't inform people if all is OK, only of there is something amiss. Now, knowing only too well how easy it is to lose weight with worry, I suspect Mother has been fretting herself to bits thinking, as I confessed to her at her news, she had a returned cancer.
I'm appalled at this GP who, knowing my Mother's medical history, couldn't even be bothered to allay any fears with a simple call :veryangry2:
Hopefully Mother will now start to put on a little weight, but she has only ever had the appetite of a sparrow :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on September 10, 2021, 10:58:48 AM
That is extremely slack. I hope everything is ok!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on September 10, 2021, 11:07:35 AM
That's pretty bad, Mick!

I'd be inclined to write to the Practice Manager and voice your disappointment if not anger in the way the practice has mismanaged the care of a genuinely vulnerable person.

A lot of practices now have websites and a place for comments. If there is such a thing you may want to hold off to see what response you get, if any, and then follow-up as appropriate.

Do hope your mum is feeling better and you can both stop worrying quite so much.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on September 10, 2021, 11:21:12 AM
That is another example of poor/abysmal 'customer care'! I would definitely put a complaint in writing Mick. Your Mother is an elderly and vulnerable person and should be treated with more care and respect. I hope she does get back to her normal self soon.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on September 10, 2021, 11:38:54 AM
We have had the same issue with our GP practise over any tests. If they are okay, no comment or contact. While I can understand the logic, the concepts of 'duty of care' and 'in the patients best interest' should surely always apply.
Luckily since my wife's illness, and the regular weekly blood tests she has, the Vampire lady (I can't spell 'flebbotomyst') has established a system for her whereby the results, whatever they are, are posted to her, and are also eventually added to her online records.

This latter method - our practise uses 'System Online' - allows, after signed registration etc - patients to view via t'internet various aspects of their medical records held by the GP surgery. It's not a perfect system (my own registration to its inner secrets seems to be fraught with issues unknown), but it is worth finding out if it's available to you and your mother.

Trust she now relaxes and enjoys eating lots of what she fancies. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: javlinfaw7 on September 10, 2021, 12:01:33 PM
To add a bit of balance to this , my son ond I are both isolating having tested positive ,he had a online appointment with his GP due to coughing up specks of blood .  The GP was not happy with how it appeared on Zoom and arranged for him to be seen in a "patient  access centre" that after noon . NHS transport arrived to take him with all appropriate precautions taken  vehicle cleaned driver in mask and gloves and same supplied for my son .he was returned 40 minutes later  with no treatment necessary as he had fortunately only burst capillaries coughing .the driver then proceeded to clean the van before moving on to collect his next patient
Unfortunately levdls of care and attention to detail  seen to vary from practice to practice.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Nbodger on September 10, 2021, 12:08:53 PM
System Online is also used by our GP's

You can read all communications including results that have been sent by external sources to your GP. As I have regular three month check ups, it is quite interesting to read what the consultant has said. Last time I went, we were spending three weeks in a caravan and that I was building some model kits, this was in the report.

Blood tests I get via a separate online service called Patient View, I usually have the results the same day. This is a system that was developed for renal patients and helps you the patient to manage your health. There are even notes to help you understand the information reported.

Mike H
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on September 10, 2021, 01:32:55 PM
not unusual, I'm afraid.

SWMBO had her 3 month CT scan on the 16th of last month, the first since her surgery for lung cancer.
after a fortnight with no results I started the never ending round of phone calls and message leaving that seems to infect the NHS.
the CT scan department number that was on her appointment letter is 'not recognised'

phoned the Sussex county, got put thought to the department secretary, who needless to say does not answer her phone, you just get a gabbled recorded message too fast to write down, even if you do have a pen and paper, so left a message with all info.

no response so a couple of days later waded through all the letters and repeated for the department at PRH Haywards Heath. same result, message left but no response.

CT dept at PRH did not even answer the phone and no voicemail !

then phoned the surgery, selected option 3 for results brr brr thank you for calling goodbye.
phoned again and selected option 1 for appointments, explained the situation 'oh, the secretaries have gone home now'.  it was 14:55  :veryangry:
they tell you to ring for results after 13:00, so quite a narrow window to get an answer.
and of course, the receptionist didn't know if any results had been sent.

today, a letter arrived, 'dictated 31 August, typed 31st August - first class' so then took 10 days to actually be posted, sorted and delivered.

all ok, no signs of any new growths  :thumbsup:

here endeth nearly four weeks of SWMBO worrying about if everything was ok.

all no doubt to be repeated in two months time.

just goes to reinforce what I have said so often before ....
nurses and doctors 5 stars,
admin - there isn't a minus star system is there ?

think it will take more than a few billion pounds to improve this, more like a good old fashioned boot up the nether regions, and a restructure / reduction of the numbers of admin staff [with their reserved car parks] less so called 'managers', and a greater concentration on the front line staff.

where, oh where, are all the Matrons  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 10, 2021, 01:58:25 PM
Latest - Mother has posted a letter to the BMA about her GP.
Probably won't get an answer ::)
Thanks for all the good wishes.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Invicta Alec on September 10, 2021, 02:33:14 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on September 10, 2021, 10:53:33 AM
On being asked why she hadn't informed Mother earlier, the GP stated they don't inform people if all is OK, only of there is something amiss.

This CANNOT be standard practice surely? If it is, it is clearly WRONG!  :veryangry:

Alec.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on September 10, 2021, 02:40:26 PM
Quote from: Invicta Alec on September 10, 2021, 02:33:14 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on September 10, 2021, 10:53:33 AM
On being asked why she hadn't informed Mother earlier, the GP stated they don't inform people if all is OK, only of there is something amiss.

This CANNOT be standard practice surely? If it is, it is clearly WRONG!  :veryangry:


These circumstances are not restricted to the UK NHS. I normally have my blood tested once or twice a year. I am always told by the Doctor that if there is anything amiss, they will ring me in about a week, otherwise the results are okay. If I have not heard anything within two weeks, I ring the surgery and ask them to do me a printout for collection.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on September 10, 2021, 02:54:42 PM
I know that we 'more mature' people are often accused of looking at the past through rose tinted glasses, but I often think that change is implemented for the sake of it. Somebody decides that something would be better if done a different way, so changes are made. After whatever length of time when it becomes obvious that the changes are not working, nobody has the guts to say, "we got it wrong, let's put it back how it was". No, what happens is something like, "we got it wrong. lets implement some more changes". So yes @class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311) , let's bring back the Matrons. And we are just talking NHS here - remember the 11+? (Okay, I'll shut up now  :)).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on September 10, 2021, 04:32:41 PM
A while back I booked an exhaust replacement through ATS's website to be carried out at the local depot who are just down the road from me. On the morning of the appointment they rang to cancel as they wouldn't have the part for another week so I had to wait (you pay when booking).

These things happen and I had forgotten about it until today. 2 new tyres were required for the wife's car so I booked with ATS online a few days ago for today as it's the wife's day off and paid as required. Evidently nothing has changed; under an hour before the appointed time a phone call to say they haven't got the tyres but can fit them Monday.

Why bother to have a booking system when it is quite plainly just a money grabbing exercise to get business with no idea if they can actually provide what has been paid for? And no, Monday isn't any good that's why I booked it for today. I'll have a refund and go elsewhere. No problem, we'll sort a refund, it will be with you in around 5 days even though your payment was taken instantly. What a load of cobblers, I can sit here on my laptop and send pretty much anyone in the world money instantly but you can't with a refund after failing to provide a service paid for.

Once is a mistake, twice is incompetence. I won't be going there again.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on September 10, 2021, 05:07:11 PM
I learnt some years back that ATS stands for Absolutely Terrible Service.

Well, it was from the branches I and my stepdaughter have used.

Won't go anywhere near them now.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on September 10, 2021, 05:54:15 PM

I've just had my tyres done by Tyresonthedrive.com which it turns out is run by Halfords, and the whole process was completely painless.

They came to me and changed the tyres in about 1/2 hour.

I can't actually believe I'm recommending a service from Halfords but they did a great job and the Engineer was very polite.

Regards

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: red_death on September 10, 2021, 06:11:12 PM
From a retailer's perspective it is equally mind boggling why refunds take so long. I suspect reversing a transaction is more complicated than taking payment as it seems as though payment systems are largely setup for payments rather than refunds but it isn't clear from our card processor exactly why it takes so much longer.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on September 10, 2021, 06:12:47 PM
Quote from: Calnefoxile on September 10, 2021, 05:54:15 PM

I've just had my tyres done by Tyresonthedrive.com which it turns out is run by Halfords, and the whole process was completely painless.

They came to me and changed the tyres in about 1/2 hour.

I can't actually believe I'm recommending a service from Halfords but they did a great job and the Engineer was very polite.

A couple of years back I booked my car in with Halfords for an AC re-gassing. They couldn't do it as the condenser needed replacing which would cost just shy of £400 which they could do the next day. Bit steep I thought so paid a visit to a local independent who couldn't find anything wrong with the condenser so just re-gassed the system. Here we are 2 years later with the AC just as ice cold as the day it was re-gassed. Halfords attempt to stitch me up by going big meant they actually got squat diddly!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on September 10, 2021, 06:13:31 PM
Quote from: Invicta Alec on September 10, 2021, 02:33:14 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on September 10, 2021, 10:53:33 AM
On being asked why she hadn't informed Mother earlier, the GP stated they don't inform people if all is OK, only of there is something amiss.

This CANNOT be standard practice surely? If it is, it is clearly WRONG!  :veryangry:

Alec.

Oh yes, it is standard practice alright and I think that not only is it highly stressful for patients (and leads to lots of time spent dealing with the consequent phonecalls), but it is also appallingly dangerous.

As a Controls Engineer, I always look at fail-safe, so it's no good shutting down when a pressure is shown as too high (a damaged cable or faulty instrument may prevent the signal being seen), instead you shut down when you cannot see that the pressure is low enough (a cut cable or failed instrument will make the low pressure signal disappear and stop the system).

All it takes is for a letter to go astray, a secretary to forget to send one, etc. and someone needing urgent treatment will not be informed - particularly if the missing letter is to the GP, so no follow-ups are prompted.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on September 10, 2021, 06:18:12 PM
Quote from: red_death on September 10, 2021, 06:11:12 PM
From a retailer's perspective it is equally mind boggling why refunds take so long. I suspect reversing a transaction is more complicated than taking payment as it seems as though payment systems are largely setup for payments rather than refunds but it isn't clear from our card processor exactly why it takes so much longer.

I honestly can't see why it would be any more complicated than taking a payment, I can make a payment in seconds sitting here.

I reckon it takes longer as it helps retailers cashflow. They've already had my money for 3 days so will have it for 8 days in total so that's 8 days for a service they failed to provide.

If you consider how many retailers there are and how many refunds have to be made taking days longer than actually taking the payments that's an awful lot of money someone has their hands on which they shouldn't!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on September 10, 2021, 06:23:13 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on September 10, 2021, 02:54:42 PM
remember the 11+?

Remember it? We still have it! Of course, they have managed to totally mess it up!

When I was at school, you took the 11-plus, at school, in your normal classroom, on a school day, with no warning which day it would be and the real one could be any one of three.

Some of the grammar schools decided that it was not rigorous enough and some wanted different areas of learning covered. Instead of asking the council to make changes or getting together and agreeing their own, shared exam (even if some schools might ignore some of the answers in areas that they were not interested in), they all implemented their own exams. So candidates suddenly had to take up to 6 different exams, at 6 different schools, on Saturdays, stressing about the upcoming dates. Even worse, there were 7 grammar schools, but two of the exams clashed and so candidates could not take both!

In recent years, there has been a slight improvement, in that some schools did co-operate and it is now down to 3 different exams, but all still on Saturdays and at different locations.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: port perran on September 10, 2021, 06:36:15 PM
I remember my 11plus day at primary school. As far as I recall it was totally unannounced and I'm pretty sure that none of us was aware of the importance of the whole thing.
The interview with the headmaster of the grammar school a few days later was much more daunting. None of us had ever seen a schoolmaster in gown and mortar board before.
I well recall sitting outside of his office terrified of what he might ask me.
We had to get to the grammar school (on the other side of town) on our own (walk or cycle) and find the office without prior information.
I'm sure today's 11 year olds would be much more mollycoddled.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on September 10, 2021, 06:43:46 PM
Quote from: port perran on September 10, 2021, 06:36:15 PM
I'm sure today's 11 year olds would be much more mollycoddled.

At 10 (final year of Primary school), we went on a school trip from Manchester to London, by train. At one point the group was in the Soho area and we were simply told, "You can go shopping, meet up back here in an hour." I can't see that happening to 10 year olds today!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on September 10, 2021, 09:16:08 PM
Quote from: port perran on September 10, 2021, 06:36:15 PM
I remember my 11plus day at primary school. As far as I recall it was totally unannounced and I'm pretty sure that none of us was aware of the importance of the whole thing.
The interview with the headmaster of the grammar school a few days later was much more daunting. None of us had ever seen a schoolmaster in gown and mortar board before.
I well recall sitting outside of his office terrified of what he might ask me.
We had to get to the grammar school (on the other side of town) on our own (walk or cycle) and find the office without prior information.
I'm sure today's 11 year olds would be much more mollycoddled.

Only difference to your story for it to match my own, Martin, is that I knew what day my 11-Plus would be.
Spooky. :)

I scraped through into the much vaunted local Grammar School by the skin of my teeth - and hated the place! :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on September 10, 2021, 10:30:21 PM
Quote from: Calnefoxile on September 10, 2021, 05:54:15 PM

I've just had my tyres done by Tyresonthedrive.com which it turns out is run by Halfords, and the whole process was completely painless.

They came to me and changed the tyres in about 1/2 hour.

I can't actually believe I'm recommending a service from Halfords but they did a great job and the Engineer was very polite.

Regards

Neal.

I can't believe you got someone else to change your tyres. Last time I saw you, you had a couple of spare tyres of your own  :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on September 10, 2021, 10:38:10 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on September 10, 2021, 10:30:21 PM
Quote from: Calnefoxile on September 10, 2021, 05:54:15 PM

I've just had my tyres done by Tyresonthedrive.com which it turns out is run by Halfords, and the whole process was completely painless.

They came to me and changed the tyres in about 1/2 hour.

I can't actually believe I'm recommending a service from Halfords but they did a great job and the Engineer was very polite.

Regards

Neal.

I can't believe you got someone else to change your tyres. Last time I saw you, you had a couple of spare tyres of your own  :P

Somewhere I can hear a pot!

:smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on September 24, 2021, 12:16:59 PM
I have two pensions, Old Age, from the government, and RAF, also for the government, these are my only incomes.
So how come HMRC, a government agency,  can manage to get my tax code wrong and I end up owing them £400plus???
This of course has to be paid back, so they are now going to adjust my tax code so they can get it back over next 12 months, leaving me an extra £35 a month out of pocket.  Why didn't they just get it right in the first place?? :dunce: (insert expletive of your own choice) :veryangry: :veryangry: :censored: :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: javlinfaw7 on September 24, 2021, 01:01:47 PM
I am in a similar situation,  old age pension and a civil service one but I was over charged last year by over £500 and just had it returned. So I have been over payi more than £45 a month all the last tax year
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on September 24, 2021, 01:16:02 PM
and don't even start me on state pension.
each year the govt chooses a month to base the increase on for the next year, and guess what, it's always the month with the lowest rate.
this year it was quite high which should by their rules mean at long last a decent increase ..

oops, there go the motorised goalposts

'we're changing the rules' yet again.

also, anyone noted the winter fuel allowance has never gone up, even though energy prices do, and the so called 'christmas bonus' of £10 has been the same since it was started in the late 1970s.

any guesses as to whether MPs expenses etc are still at 1970's levels  :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on September 24, 2021, 04:12:50 PM
Following this mornings fuel scaremongering on breakfast TV there actually is a shortage now rather than a made up one as all the idiots around here cleaned out all the fuel by mid afternoon following a morning of logjam on the roads.
I trust the BBC etc are happy as tomorrow they will be able to report how the non existent issue is now a reality.
I believe this is the definition of a self fulfilling prophecy!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on September 24, 2021, 04:13:45 PM
Quote from: TrevL on September 24, 2021, 12:16:59 PM
I have two pensions, Old Age, from the government, and RAF, also for the government, these are my only incomes.
So how come HMRC, a government agency,  can manage to get my tax code wrong and I end up owing them £400plus???
This of course has to be paid back, so they are now going to adjust my tax code so they can get it back over next 12 months, leaving me an extra £35 a month out of pocket.  Why didn't they just get it right in the first place?? :dunce: (insert expletive of your own choice) :veryangry: :veryangry: :censored: :censored:

I would challenge it on the grounds that it is their fault.
when SWMBO retired, it worked out that with her state and Tesco pensions, her only income, she did not use all her allowance.
cue call to HMRC, who advised she could transfer 10% of her allowance to me [note not the whole of her unused allowance- we are dealing with the government after all- grasping  :censored:] but that as she retired part way through the tax year, she had used all her allowance for that year.

I was told to call back at the start of the new tax year, and the 10% could be transferred to me.

sorted  :hmmm:

at the end of the tax year SWMBO received a tax demand for unpaid tax  >:(
as well as demanding an interim payment immeadiately.
which she paid.

straight on the phone to HMRC to demand what was going on.
"she transferred 10% of her allowance to you last year" :hmmm:
"NO SHE DIDN'T. you said she'd used all her allowance and I was to call back in the new tax year when she could transfer it"

"mmmmm are you sure?"

"YES, as you say you record all conversations, listen to the tape and get a senior manager to call me back, within 24 hours or I call my MP"

very surprised to get a call the next day, supposedly from a 'senior manager' [you can't of course prove it or not] who admitted that the original call handler had wrongly applied the transfer from my wife's allowance, and it was their fault.

the outcome was
cancellation of the tax 'debt'
refund of her interim payment in full
and a £50 payment as an apology.

who says you cannot occasionally win !
go for it, all it costs is time, phone calls and listening to their  :poop: hold music.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on September 24, 2021, 04:16:12 PM
Quote from: thebrighton on September 24, 2021, 04:12:50 PM
Following this mornings fuel scaremongering on breakfast TV there actually is a shortage now rather than a made up one as all the idiots around here cleaned out all the fuel by mid afternoon following a morning of logjam on the roads.
I trust the BBC etc are happy as tomorrow they will be able to report how the non existent issue is now a reality.
I believe this is the definition of a self fulfilling prophecy!

SHOCK
Horror
I'd never have expected that, especially as some talking head said

"there is no need to panic buy"

which translates to 'get down there and queue now, and take jerry cans with you as well'

still, the fuel companies profits will be up this week  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on September 24, 2021, 07:01:16 PM
probably heading for another unknown stint on the naughty step,
but am I the only one who is fed up with seeing on the news after a terrible occurence, piles of plods standing around the scene, when if they had been out on patrol in the first place the murder / rape etc might not have happened.

and why is it that these days the police always want us to do their job 'if you saw anything get in touch' .. in the old days, before so many political initiatives,  there would have been plods on the streets, instead of only appearing on tv series.

not I hasten to add, the plod's fault, but the commanders who won't let the guys do their jobs.

I know, back on moderation for political comment !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 24, 2021, 10:07:39 PM
Quote from: class37025 on September 24, 2021, 07:01:16 PM
I know, back on moderation for political comment !

No, 'cos I've removed the political one liner :P
And the reason there are hardly any cops on the streets is that it's not 'sexy' enough so they're chasing uninsured/banned from driving kids up and down the motorways at high speed instead.
Cynic? Moi? :angel:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on September 24, 2021, 10:23:42 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on September 24, 2021, 10:07:39 PM
And the reason there are hardly any cops on the streets is that it's not 'sexy' enough ...................

I dunno, there are pages and pages of pictures of sexy policewomen on t'interweb, I have a few bookmarked for a possible future fancy dress outfit  :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 24, 2021, 10:27:34 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on September 24, 2021, 10:23:42 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on September 24, 2021, 10:07:39 PM
And the reason there are hardly any cops on the streets is that it's not 'sexy' enough ...................

I dunno, there are pages and pages of pictures of sexy policewomen on t'interweb, I have a few bookmarked for a possible future fancy dress outfit  :goggleeyes:

@Trainfish (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=262) Would you prefer I move that post to the Happy Thread? :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on September 24, 2021, 10:35:00 PM
It's up to you but I'm sure that once you see me in my outfit it will be moved from the happy thread  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on September 24, 2021, 11:46:32 PM
Last time we had prowlers trying to get into my workshop, store and some other stables at 3a.m. in the morning, the Fuzz said they'd try to get someone along, but they were rather busy.

They got un-busy sharpish when the call handler asked my wife, "What's that noise?"

My wife replied, "That's my husband outside with his shotgun."

They appeared in 10 minutes flat.

Busy my great hairy...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on September 25, 2021, 08:06:48 AM
All this talk of the Fuzz reminds me of an old schoolboy joke (the joke's old, not the schoolboy - or is he now? :hmmm:)

Maybe not repeatable here though.


As for the Police - in general they have an awful job, never knowing what they might have to deal with: drunks, idiots with knives and guns, child abusers, rapists, murderers, fools in cars, protestors (supposedly peaceful but so often not), family squabbles and violence, road accidents (often the first to witness the damaged/destroyed body of those involved), and so many other incidents and situations that the rest of us, God willing, never have to cope with.
Nothing is perfect, and with budget constraints, a public that is quick to condemn and slow to support, and a Press that focuses mainly on the negative, it is a wonder any Police Officer feels like turning up for work each day. But they do, and for that I am ever grateful.

And yes, they make mistakes and there are some bad apples in the barrel, but would you do their job?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on September 25, 2021, 08:28:01 AM
You are not wrong.

But they do know that going into the job.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on September 25, 2021, 09:42:19 AM
I have to agree with @daffy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5634) . Having been a Police Officer for 20 years before a car accident forced me into retirement, I have seen just about everything on his list! Without getting into the politics of it, there is not enough money, (as it is for all the emergency services), and the system thinks too much of the offenders 'rights'. My brother used to be a Magistrate and the number of considerations they had to take into account before handing down a sentence was ridiculous. I like the '3 strikes and you're out' way of thinking. Things are not perfect in Ireland, but, unless I could find somewhere similar in the UK to what I have now, I am in no hurry to return home  :no:. But I will shut up now and go play with some track wiring.  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on September 26, 2021, 06:03:28 PM
Searched Google for brass BA sizes of nuts and bolts, naturally Amazon came up as one possibility, so

I go to Amazon 20 pages of nuts and bolts, only 2 entries for BA, only 2BA- 6 BA and one out of them out of stock, I want 6 - 14 BA; loads of M sizes, a few AF and other threads. Back to Google quite a few other stockists, not many having the smaller sizes though, those that do seem to only sell in packs of 50 or more. Ended up with some place in the far east so heaven knows when they will arrive!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NeilWhite on September 26, 2021, 08:52:52 PM
Try BA Bolts: https://www.ba-bolts.co.uk/ (https://www.ba-bolts.co.uk/)

I've bought from them and the service was good. And, yes, it is getting harder to get BA stuff.

Neil
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on September 26, 2021, 09:40:58 PM
Thanks for that Neil, now bookmarked.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on September 28, 2021, 06:02:03 PM
anyone else noticed that as soon as there was, supposedly, a shortage of fuel, 99% of garages turned their price signs to 888.8 ?

so as the government, who caused this shortage, says there is no shortage of fuel, there is no excuse, other than profiteering, for increasing fuel prices.
the garages are not paying any more, only the idiots who are squeezing the last drop into their tanks and jerry cans because some talking head  said 'there is no reason for panic buying'

now there is, thanks to you,

engage brain before mouth used to be the norm, but not now with these idiots, got to get an interview / cheque for appearing on TV.

anyone else notice the sign shown at a garage on local south news after the 10 o'clock ITV news ....

FULE RUN OUT.

I give up.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: exmouthcraig on September 28, 2021, 06:31:31 PM
If the government didnt go running to the media TELLING THEM we couldnt get tanker drivers no one would know this!!!

Today we have a wonderful Defence Secretary stating that the Army were on standby to step in.

Well heres an idea........

Instead of running off to the media FIRST, get Plan B in place, the Army are always 'ready fo step in' so get our wonderful boys in the wagons getting the stuff out there and THEN tell us how you've saved us from Panic Buying and a catastrophic drought of fuel.

Shockingly you look at lot better in the public eye if you resolve the issue before you tell us.

Probably as non political as a political statement could be!

I hope.......
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Alcazar on September 28, 2021, 06:42:22 PM
Quote from: exmouthcraig on September 28, 2021, 06:31:31 PM
Instead of running off to the media FIRST, get Plan B in place, the Army are always 'ready fo step in' so get our wonderful boys in the wagons getting the stuff out there and THEN tell us how you've saved us from Panic Buying and a catastrophic drought of fuel.

You're assuming that the army has enough "fule" to do this.

Peter
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daveg on September 28, 2021, 06:44:53 PM
Horses
Stable
Door
Bolt(ed)

Kindly place these in the correct order.  :doh:

Locally, petrol station large illuminated sign showing £1.389 litre, diesel a bit more so not as bad as some. Ah that's why it's 'cheaper'- the place is closed.

Stay safe everyone.

Dave G
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: exmouthcraig on September 28, 2021, 06:56:03 PM
Quote from: Alcazar on September 28, 2021, 06:42:22 PM
Quote from: exmouthcraig on September 28, 2021, 06:31:31 PM
Instead of running off to the media FIRST, get Plan B in place, the Army are always 'ready fo step in' so get our wonderful boys in the wagons getting the stuff out there and THEN tell us how you've saved us from Panic Buying and a catastrophic drought of fuel.

You're assuming that the army has enough "fule" to do this.

Peter

The army are only supplying the drivers. According to all sources there is NO FUEL SHORTAGE just no drivers to get it to the forecourts
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on September 28, 2021, 07:02:56 PM
Quote from: exmouthcraig on September 28, 2021, 06:56:03 PM
According to all sources there is NO FUEL SHORTAGE

Just thought I should let you know that there is a rumour that Plaster Of Paris is in very short supply ................. it is only a rumour though - honest.  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on September 28, 2021, 08:28:43 PM
I am angry at this fuel large chicken up.

We got the keys to our new house 13th Sept.

Best date we could get stuff out of storage and delivered was 29th. Not ideal but has meant time to redecorate, tackle overgrown garden etc.

Told today removal firm can't get any diesel.

No stuff until 7th.

:veryangry:

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on September 28, 2021, 08:52:57 PM
Just to let you all know that there is a JOB shortage ,but I dont think there will be any  traffic jams at the job centers
Bob Tidbury 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: acko22 on September 29, 2021, 01:15:40 AM
Quote from: exmouthcraig on September 28, 2021, 06:31:31 PM
Instead of running off to the media FIRST, get Plan B in place, the Army are always 'ready fo step in' so get our wonderful boys in the wagons getting the stuff out there

Sorry but why get the military out there? Haven't they got enough on their plate (currently over 20 overseas unit+ operations ongoing) plus training for the militaries actual job which doesn't come fast or easy hence the old phrase "train hard, fight easy"

When I left the army 2 years ago not only did we have operations ongoing but we had to train for:
fire strikes / tanker strikes / ambulance strikes / UK terrorism response / Large scale disaster response (Civil contingency reaction force) / flooding
All of this taking up months of time all while trying to fit in training for actual operations (my unit was sending 2 companies to Estonia and 2 companies to Afghanistan) previously you got to spend a year doing pre deployment training but with all the extra duties thrown on to the military the pre deployment training for my unit was down to about 4 months for each of the deployments!

The reality is that as  :poop: as the situation is we have to stop calling out the military every time something makes life difficult, frankly if the military are called in then it should be for essential services only, not for Sharon to fill up her 2 ton tractor for the 1 mile school run! 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: exmouthcraig on September 29, 2021, 05:34:15 AM
Trust me I know how hard they work and how overstretched they are but

As I am neither

The Prime Minister
The Defence Secretary
Or the government's PR department

That's the question for them to answer. Their all over the media telling us that's what they were preparing to do.

The problem shouldnt of arisen in the first place.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Fardap on September 29, 2021, 09:41:25 AM
Although the government can take some blame the initial problem was caused by BP releasing a press statement that they had to shut a handful of sites due to delivery issues...

The actual reason they put out the press release was they were lobbying the govt to relax visa rules for HGV drivers from the EU - so they created a crisis to get an end to their lobbying.

Ironically as much as everyone wants to blame Brexit there is an EU wide (if not WW) shortage of HGV drivers it is not just a UK issue, also fuel deliveries are not done by HGV drivers they also need an ADR licence for the specialist nature of transporting fuel and explosives.

The real issue is regardless of what anyone has said or what press releases were made the problem with stations running out is wholly to blame on the media and moronic people who want a fully fuelled car sitting on their drive - if everyone had carried on as normal there would be no issue!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on September 29, 2021, 02:00:41 PM
Quote from: Fardap on September 29, 2021, 09:41:25 AM
if everyone had carried on as normal there would be no issue!

Agreed, but as soon as some start panic buying, everyone else has to or they'll find none left when they actually do need it.

I usually run until almost empty and then fill the tank. On Friday I filled early, as panic buying had started and I knew I had to pick my son up from university that night (home for my and his brother's birthdays and a medical appointment, so could not be changed) and then return him on Sunday night, while still having enough left to get to and from work and to take my disabled wife to and from hospital appointments towards the end of this week. I could have got by until Tuesday or today maybe, but would not have been able to fill up now, if I hadn't on Friday and so would have been left stranded.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on September 29, 2021, 02:27:18 PM
Quote from: Fardap on September 29, 2021, 09:41:25 AM
- if everyone had carried on as normal .......

I think that is just what a great number of folks are doing.

Mention the word 'shortage' or 'limited' or 'crisis' or even just 'problem' relating to anything these days and the practically inevitable result will be what we are seeing here now. It's become the norm to panic, or as some would have it, 'get a bit in', whether it's loo rolls or fuel or whatever is perceived to be short on supply, 'just in case'.
Sadly in this highly mobile society, having fuel has become essential for many, many individuals and business, so between the essential users and those who just take the knee-jerk approach without properly assessing need, what we are seeing today is inevitable. Even, you might say, normal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on September 29, 2021, 02:52:37 PM
There is another 'cause' to this.

I have an insider in the industry. Oh well, y'know, he drives lorries.

BP and Shell use a company called Hoyer for deliveries. Someone in their wisdom,  I'm guessing an accountant, thought it'd be a good idea to lay off the drivers and re-employ them on a worse contract. So of course, a huge amount of them walked away into other companies looking for tanker drivers.

Low and behold, Shell and BP are short of drivers.

Strangely the Road Haulage Association aren't shouting about that brainwave. Maybe it's because the RHA is run by the likes of Shell and BP.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 29, 2021, 09:34:01 PM
Fact - media showing film of a garage forecourt operating normally is not news.
Fact - media showing film of long queues outside garages, 'NO FUEL' signs and motorists having at each other is considered news.
I rest my case, M'Lud.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on September 29, 2021, 11:40:25 PM
Gave me a chuckle on the evening news here, though  ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on September 30, 2021, 11:56:10 AM
There was two items that I spotted. One was a couple of guys pouring fuel into a black bin bag lining a drum. Second was a police report of a 3 hour queue at a closed garage. They were abused when they started directing traffic away and one guy said he must have fuel as he had been driving for 3 hours trying to get petrol. The copper asked him how much fuel had he used up in that 3 hours.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on September 30, 2021, 12:53:43 PM
call from my daughter this morning to say local Tesco finally had diesel in...

headed down there, queue not too bad and after about 10 minutes I was only four cars from getting onto the forecourt ....

so why is this not in the happy thread ?

then put out the sign

SORRY
NO DIESEL  :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on September 30, 2021, 02:29:24 PM
"Good morning sir/madam. how much fuel do you have in your vehicle's tank ?"

"it's showing full, but I can squeeze a few litres in because I've done the 1 mile school run twice today, and then driven here to fill up"

"please get out of your vehicle and follow me"

cut to rear area of garage ..

bang - bang !

fuel shortage / panic buying sorted.

plus human gene pool improved.

win win  :smiley-laughing:

I'm only joking, I think  :hmmm: >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on September 30, 2021, 03:04:31 PM
thought ...

if I hooked HB onto the front of the car, I wonder how many MPH [miles per husky] I'd get  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on September 30, 2021, 03:27:27 PM
my thought...

I have a vision of HB's little feet vainly trying to grip the tarmac, smoke slowly rising therefrom, and steam coming out of his ears. :o

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on September 30, 2021, 03:48:06 PM
more likely him stopping at every lamp post to 'mark his territory, and emergency stops to graze on some tasty grass if it was anything like the daily trek round the fields :'(  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on October 01, 2021, 07:34:48 AM
On the way home from work,
Passed first Petrol Filling Station, short queue about 4 cars,
Passed Second  PFS, fuel on all pumps, no cars in it.
Passed third PFS short queue about 6 cars..


Why is this in the angry thread?

Yesterday morning I filled up the car at the 4th filling station... Half an hour in the queue of maybe 100 cars...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on October 01, 2021, 08:11:13 AM
Quote from: The Q on October 01, 2021, 07:34:48 AM
Half an hour in the queue of maybe 100 cars...

With a user name like that, what did you expect? :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 02, 2021, 07:09:51 PM
AMAZON / DRIVERS  :veryangry:

grandson #2 down with us this weekend, but his HD ????????? lead not working  for his PS ??????

so his mum ordered a replacement from Amazon, to be delivered to ours today  :thumbsup:

if only  :censored:

due at 3.pm

five o'clock and call from daughter to say Amazon driver on the phone, outside ours, no reply at door.

checked....
no Amazon driver or van, not heard any doorbell ......

so at 6 o'clock call from daughter ....
Amazon had just delivered to her address.....

luckily Acko22 was a bit more accurate with his locations, otherwise there would have been all hell to play.

but Amazon ....

:censored: :censored: :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 02, 2021, 07:27:42 PM
Quote from: Malc on September 30, 2021, 11:56:10 AM
There was two items that I spotted. One was a couple of guys pouring fuel into a black bin bag lining a drum. Second was a police report of a 3 hour queue at a closed garage. They were abused when they started directing traffic away and one guy said he must have fuel as he had been driving for 3 hours trying to get petrol. The copper asked him how much fuel had he used up in that 3 hours.

I refer you to my previous post re selective culling  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tunneroner61 on October 02, 2021, 09:42:22 PM
@class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311) I find your perhaps in jest comments regarding the culling of human beings to be in bad taste, offensive and inappropriate to a model railway forum. Please self moderate in future.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 02, 2021, 10:30:22 PM
Quote from: tunneroner61 on October 02, 2021, 09:42:22 PM
@class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311) I find your perhaps in jest comments regarding the culling of human beings to be in bad taste, offensive and inappropriate to a model railway forum. Please self moderate in future.
noted.

it's sometimes just difficult to understand how some of these cretins manage to survive.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tunneroner61 on October 02, 2021, 11:30:11 PM
That may be so but you are best keeping those thoughts to your self.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on October 02, 2021, 11:43:31 PM
I passed a about three garages yesterday with small amounts of cars at the pumps, the third garage had put the petrol price up to 143.9 pl, there was no queue, I  wonder why, they must not be that desperate round here. What annoys me is the media still keep putting there is a shortage of fuel when basicaly there isn't, just to keep the story going.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on October 03, 2021, 12:27:35 PM
Our local filling station is open, no queues.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 03, 2021, 12:59:50 PM
there wouldn't be, @theQ filled up the other day  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on October 03, 2021, 01:43:07 PM
No diesel at all in Devizes and very little petrol apparently. 'Luckily' I queued up for an hour on Thursday to fill my tank ready for a 3-day trip to Tavistock tomorrow  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 03, 2021, 02:18:35 PM
should at least keep you away from that dodgy old geezer by the A23  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on October 03, 2021, 02:46:21 PM
I'm not sure Tavistock is far enough away to be honest
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: chrism on October 12, 2021, 07:15:58 AM
 :censored: Ebay have changed their categories - so now I've got to refine my filters again to avoid all the Orribly Overscale, grossly overscale and underscale stuff  :veryangry:
At least when they had an N Gauge category all we had to contend with was muppets listing in the wrong category, now we have to rely on sellers including the gauge/scale in a listing.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Hiawatha on October 12, 2021, 09:09:41 AM
Yes, I just noticed the same on ebay.de. :veryangry:  So, now you can't simply browse the new items which have been listed in, say, N scale locomotives since yesterday. What were these :censored: at ebay thinking?  ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on October 12, 2021, 09:19:45 AM
Yes, this is nuts! I regularly check out ebay.de with its simpler categories like 'Modellbau' and then 'Modelleisenbahn', but now they've taken away the latter's 'Spur N' option it's a real pain.

I have found prefixing a search within these categories with 'spur N' is reasonably successful. Not tried a similar approach on the UK site yet.



Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: chrism on October 12, 2021, 09:26:07 AM
Quote from: daffy on October 12, 2021, 09:19:45 AM
Yes, this is nuts! I regularly check out ebay.de with its simpler categories like 'Modellbau' and then 'Modelleisenbahn', but now they've taken away the latter's 'Spur N' option it's a real pain.

I have found prefixing a search within these categories with 'spur N' is reasonably successful. Not tried a similar approach on the UK site yet.

Starting the search with "n -OO -00 -ho" seems to work reasonably well - at least where sellers do put the gauge in the description.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on October 12, 2021, 10:28:58 AM
Thanks Chris, I often use such search tactics, but eBay has now made it an essential tactic.

Your "n -OO -00 -ho" now has me replaying the scene where Luke is told Darth Vader is his father - but now finds it funny at the end. :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 13, 2021, 05:02:19 PM
wasn't really sure whether to post this here, or in today's groaner  :hmmm:

Hi alan,

Thank you for contacting Yodel. Please find the details of your webchat conversation below.

Jitendra Pal 16:27:47: Good afternoon, Alan. How are you doing today?

alan 16:29:15: hi, wondering what, if anything, is happening with my parcel. according to your tracking it was picked up 18:00 monday, but still has not even reached the depot

Jitendra Pal 16:31:30: I understand that you want to confirm the status of your parcel. I'll be happy to help you with the status of your parcel delivery, let me look into this and assist you further.

alan 16:31:47: have you got the number

Jitendra Pal 16:32:30: Thank you for your patience. I have gone through the parcel details and found that we've only received the booking details from your sender. Your parcel may be still in transit to us. Once the physical parcel is received, the tracking and expected delivery date will be updated on our website. Alternatively, you can contact the sender for further information.

alan 16:33:29: then why does your tracking say to picked it up on monday

Jitendra Pal 16:34:03: The parcel might be in transit to us with a third-party courier. Be assured that we will deliver your parcel as soon as we receive it from the seller's end.

alan 16:34:06: • 11/10/21 18:00 We have collected your parcel

Jitendra Pal 16:34:14: Once the driver leaves the depot to start deliveries, you'll receive a text message that will contain a 2 hour time window.

Jitendra Pal 16:34:37: You can track the parcel delivery updates at https://www.yodel.co.uk/tracking/JD0002248701957950/RH159JH (https://www.yodel.co.uk/tracking/JD0002248701957950/RH159JH)

alan 16:34:41: is that likely to be this week

alan 16:36:29: thanks for nothing. your tracking, or lack of it, is as usual the problem. Yodel tracking says exactly what I just sent you, not that somebody with a van has it somewhere and sometime will actually pass it to Yodel.

Jitendra Pal 16:36:48: It's up to the seller, as the seller has not provided the parcel yet.

alan 16:37:37: then why does yodel tracking say • 11/10/21 18:00 We have collected your parcel

Jitendra Pal 16:39:06: It says that we have collected the details only not the physical parcel. The details will be updated once we get the parcel. You can manage your parcel delivery online, as address update, delivery at a safe place, parcel collection from the depot, etc. you'll be able to pass the instructions to the depot. The preference you make online will be visible to the driver when they make your delivery. You can make your preferences at https://www.yodel.co.uk/manage_your_parcel/JD0002248701957950/RH159JH (https://www.yodel.co.uk/manage_your_parcel/JD0002248701957950/RH159JH)

alan 16:39:46: it says :My Parcel's Journey • 11/10/21 18:00 We have collected your parcel • 11/10/21 00:00 Your parcel will be with us soon

alan 16:40:07: and in my world 18:00 is later than 00:00

Jitendra Pal 16:40:37: Alan, it says - Your parcel will be with us soon

alan 16:41:37: at 00:00, it then says at 18:00 we have collected your parcel. both messages 11/10/21

Jitendra Pal 16:41:48: The best I'd request you to wait or alternatively you can get in touch with the seller.

Kind regards,
Yodel


actually, I thought that,for me I was quite restrained  :-\
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 13, 2021, 06:23:22 PM
On a similar, but different, ( ???), theme, I have noticed in a lot of cases when items are bought through ebay, within a day or two, ebay notify me that the item has been posted. Yet, when you track the courier website, it says something to the effect that the details have been provided to the courier - the courier quite often does not get the item for another 1 or 2 days - that does annoy me!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on October 13, 2021, 09:14:47 PM
A couple of months ago we went through the difficulties of getting our oldest son vaccinated in time for going to university, when he only turned 18 in mid-August.

Last week, our youngest son received a letter from school about Covid 19 vaccination, but our middle son didn't. We had been waiting for them to get vaccinated, as my wife is considered vulnerable and has been advised to avoid mixing with unvaccinated people - plus we are in Trafford, with the highest rates of infection in the country and two of our children have to go to school, with an hour's journey each way, by bus ... so the risks are high.

It turns out that 90% of year 11 will be vaccinated at school, but as he turned 16 on 28th September, he is now too old for the school vaccination programme!

Go to the NHS website and it says he is eligible now and offers a button to make a booking; press the button and he is asked for name, age and date of birth, then whether he is a hospital worker, works in a care home or is a carer and promptly dumps him out as ineligible!

Phone 119 and they can't deal with anyone under 17 years and 9 months and advise phoning our GP - who should have sent an invitation months ago, considering my wife's known risk and that children 12 or over, with a vulnerable household member, have been eligible since July!

Phone the GP and they are still only dealing with those who missed their second jab and are taking no other bookings!

The system is a complete mess!

We have found that the only way to get him vaccinated is for him to take an afternoon off school and me to take an afternoon off work (unpaid) and go to a drop-in centre. Why on earth are 16 to 17-3/4 year olds the only ones that can't get a vaccination in school and can't make an independent booking for a time that suits them either?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on October 13, 2021, 09:19:00 PM
Steve.hope you made a complaint !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 13, 2021, 09:51:16 PM
@stevewalker (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5329) That's just disgraceful, Steve. Seems everyone has Teflon shoulders these days ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on October 13, 2021, 10:21:50 PM
Who to? The school/PHE are following rules by vaccinating 12 to 15 year olds in school. The website has no link for complaints about Covid booking problems and 119 staff can only deal with bookings. There is a complaint number for the more general Covid questions and the GPs - but that number just rings out, goes to answerphone and reports that it can't take any more messages!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 14, 2021, 09:47:06 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on October 13, 2021, 09:51:16 PM
@stevewalker (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5329) That's just disgraceful, Steve. Seems everyone has Teflon shoulders these days ::)

years, ok decades ago, when I was on the AA we used to have customer care courses, and they used to empathise three points...

1. own the problem

2. do not say what you cannot do

3. say what you can do, and then do it

nowadays, when you speak to a lot, though not all, so called customer care departments, they just seem to want to pass the buck to someone else.

but that, I guess, is 'progress' in business.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on October 14, 2021, 11:34:03 AM
That is a general problem these days. However, the Covid vaccination system itself seems to be broken up into numerous separate parts, with no overall management, so there is no-one to go to at all who oversees it all and can direct you the right way, point out that some part of the system is not doing its part to that part or act to close loopholes in the system. The parts all just trundle on independently - when my wife had to miss her second jab due to other medical treatment, the GP was not handling any appointments for missed second jabs, but no other part of the system would take her on, as her first jab had been organised by the GP ... she was just told to wait, despite being classed as vulnerable.

It needs all parts of the system to be under the control of one, responsible, group and not operating independently.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 14, 2021, 12:57:04 PM
we had our first and second jabs through our GP surgery, but they are not involved, so I was told yesterday, in booking the booster jab.

'you'll be contacted by e-mail or text' I was told.

presumably we'll have the faff of trying to get two appointments together, whereas with the others we were booked in together.

:veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: chrism on October 14, 2021, 01:31:55 PM
Quote from: class37025 on October 14, 2021, 12:57:04 PM
we had our first and second jabs through our GP surgery, but they are not involved, so I was told yesterday, in booking the booster jab.

You're in the wrong town - we've had two Saturday booster clinics at our GP's surgery so far, with more undoubtedly to follow. Not this week, though, it's flu jabs this Saturday.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 14, 2021, 02:05:28 PM
flu jabs last weekend, but surgery not involved with Covid boosters.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 14, 2021, 03:25:59 PM
Mum's surgery not doing boosters as they say they haven't got any so I have to take her to the clinic I had my first 2 jabs at in a couple of weeks time. I also believe the booster has to be a different make from the first 2 jabs.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: chrism on October 14, 2021, 03:44:55 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on October 14, 2021, 03:25:59 PM
I also believe the booster has to be a different make from the first 2 jabs.

Only if the first two were Oxford-Astrazeneca and you cannot have the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines.

From;
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/coronavirus-vaccination/coronavirus-booster-vaccine/ (https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/coronavirus-vaccination/coronavirus-booster-vaccine/)

QuoteMost people will be offered a booster dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine or Moderna vaccine.
This means your booster dose may be different from the vaccines you had for your 1st and 2nd doses.

Some people may be offered a booster dose of the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine if they cannot have the Pfizer/BioNTech or Moderna vaccine.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 15, 2021, 01:29:41 PM
being a glutton for punishment, I once again contacted Yokel today to see what was happening with the parcel they say they collected, but then say they didn't.

result is ...
Thank you for contacting Yodel. Please find the details of your webchat conversation below.

Shubhani Goyal 13:10:57: Good afternoon, Alan. Welcome to Yodel Webchat support. I hope you are doing good.

alan 13:12:04: still trying to find out what is happening with my parcel. advisor on wednesday said you had not received it even though your tracking info says you collected it 18:00 monday.

Shubhani Goyal 13:12:33: I understand that tracking has not been updated. I'll help you with that. Let me quickly check the details and see what best we can do for you. Kindly stay connected while I am checking the details.

alan 13:13:33: Parcel status We have collected your parcel *This parcel requires a signature Estimated delivery date: Unavailable at this time Manage Your Parcel My Parcel's Journey • 11/10/21 18:00 We have collected your parcel • 11/10/21 00:00 Your parcel will be with us soon

Shubhani Goyal 13:14:38: Thanks for your patience. I have checked the details of your parcel. It looks like we haven't received this parcel for delivery yet, we've only received the booking details. It's possible that your parcel is still in transit to us from your seller. Once the physical parcel arrives, the tracking would be updated on our website. You can also keep a track of your parcel on (yodel.co.uk/tracking/JD0002248701957950/RH15 9JH). Alternatively, you can contact your seller for further information.

alan 13:15:27: that is what I have just sent you which shows you collected my parcel on monday

Shubhani Goyal 13:15:51: Alan, I completely understand that the website appears to be stating as 'collected'. However, it seems to have been collected by the third party which is allowed by the seller to drop the parcels at our depot. I can confirm that we are still expecting the parcel from the seller. We'll make sure that it is out for delivery as soon as we receive it. I would suggest you to have a word with the seller for further assistance on this.

alan 13:16:23: he has not replied to my messages.

alan 13:17:24: so someone with a van has my parcel, and has since monday, and when they finally give it to you then you will move it around the country to my local depot and then deliver it ?

Shubhani Goyal 13:17:41: I understand your concern but we haven't received your parcel yet in the Yodel network so I am unable to provide any information. I would kindly request you to please contact your sender for further assistance.

alan 13:18:32: according to the tracking info on E-bay, Tracking details Yodel tracking #JJD0002248701957950 11 Oct 2021 6:00pm Parcel Picked Up CUSTOMER LOCATION 11 Oct 2021 12:00am Parcel data received awaiting coll. MIDDLETON SERVICE CENTRE (YODEL) 11 Oct 2021 11:25am Tracking number provided

alan 13:18:50: at what actual point do Yodel get involved ?

Shubhani Goyal 13:21:41: Alan, I completely understand your point but trust me, as per our tracking the parcel hasn't been entered in the Yodel network yet. I'd kindly request you to please get in touch with your sender and you can advise them to contact us through the client portal so that we can proceed further.

alan 13:22:07: ok, will do. many thanks.


so it appears some oik with a van may/may not have collected my parcel, and been driving around/ or not all week with it instead of passing it to Yokel.

seller, beddingtextilesonline, on fleabay does not answer messages, so looks like time for a referral to fleabay to resolve.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 15, 2021, 01:52:00 PM
Quote from: class37025 on October 15, 2021, 01:29:41 PM
so looks like time for a referral to fleabay to resolve.

Definitely agree. The thing that annoys me with some sellers on ebay is that they can receive an order and contact the courier to arrange collection the same day. The seller then has a tracking number, so they can update ebay and the item is shown as dispatched. Only it has not been dispatched. It could be a couple of days before the item is actually collected from the seller and, as it may be in your case Alan, the person collecting does not get it into the couriers system for another couple of days. But it looks good for the seller, as they appear to have dispatched the item almost straight away. It has got to the stage now where, if I have not received my item within 2 days of the stated delivery date, I file a 'not received' claim with ebay - that usually gets a prompt response and, of course, ebay have a record of the conversation(s).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 15, 2021, 03:16:53 PM
@class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311) Your restraint is admirable, Alan. As one who doesn't like to see you in the 'sin bin' I thank you ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 15, 2021, 03:31:43 PM
thank you Mick,

I am trying ....
VERY TRYING  :-[ :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 15, 2021, 03:35:13 PM
I have messaged on fleabay the seller, pointed out that I have received no response to my message sent wednesday, and given him/them 24 hrs to respond before I contact resolutions.

we'll see what happens.

needless to say, if/when it arrives all letters will be utilised for the feedback  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on October 15, 2021, 10:53:35 PM
He's getting closer to that step now........................

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/115/262-151021225224-1151222319.jpeg)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 22, 2021, 02:46:36 PM
with no response or refund from the seller, E-bay has now refunded in full, and will be, no doubt, chasing the seller for their money back.

I did manage to find the transaction in my purchase history,
and as I'm sure those who know me will expect,
a full and angry response was left as feedback, clearly stating the facts, which seem to have been experienced by other buyers as well.

not, of course, that I would be vindictive  :hmmm: >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on October 25, 2021, 03:41:16 PM
Colgate make 44 different toothpaste products. That's right, forty-four! No it wasn't a typo, it wasn't my fat fingers hitting the "4" key twice when I meant to hit it once!

44!

There are ones that are good for fresh breath. Others excel at fighting plaque. Some help protect and restore enamel. Yet others still, fight gum disease.

But 44! All different!

Which one of the 44 am I supposed to choose?! Why can't they just make one Colgate that does every :censored: thing?!  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on October 25, 2021, 03:49:04 PM
Quote from: RailGooner on October 25, 2021, 03:41:16 PM
Colgate make 44 different toothpaste products. That's right, forty-four! No it wasn't a typo, it wasn't my fat fingers hitting the "4" key twice when I meant to hit it once!

44!

There are ones that are good for fresh breath. Others excel at fighting plaque. Some help protect and restore enamel. Yet others still, fight gum disease.

But 44! All different!

Which one of the 44 am I supposed to choose?! Why can't they just make one Colgate that does every :censored: thing?!  :veryangry:

I'd like to refer you back to our other discussion on fear/profit/progress in another thread.

:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 25, 2021, 03:54:44 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on October 15, 2021, 10:53:35 PM
He's getting closer to that step now........................

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/115/262-151021225224-1151222319.jpeg)

moi ?

I have learned my lesson, and am reformed !

:hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 25, 2021, 04:12:06 PM
Quote from: RailGooner on October 25, 2021, 03:41:16 PM
Colgate make 44 different toothpaste products. That's right, forty-four! No it wasn't a typo, it wasn't my fat fingers hitting the "4" key twice when I meant to hit it once!
Which one of the 44 am I supposed to choose?! Why can't they just make one Colgate that does every :censored: thing?!  :veryangry:

And they ain't cheap, either. Unlike the Aquafresh I use which costs 80p and lasts ages on the three teeth I have left :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on October 25, 2021, 05:08:16 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on October 25, 2021, 04:12:06 PM
Quote from: RailGooner on October 25, 2021, 03:41:16 PM
Colgate make 44 different toothpaste products. That's right, forty-four! No it wasn't a typo, it wasn't my fat fingers hitting the "4" key twice when I meant to hit it once!
Which one of the 44 am I supposed to choose?! Why can't they just make one Colgate that does every :censored: thing?!  :veryangry:

And they ain't cheap, either. Unlike the Aquafresh I use which costs 80p and lasts ages on the three teeth I have left :D

Oh yes, Aquafresh. That's made by GlaxoSmithKline (GSK) who also make Sensodyne. They make Corsodyl and Parodontax too.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 25, 2021, 05:34:03 PM
at least they give you a choice, assuming the supermarkets can get stock on the shelves !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on October 25, 2021, 05:54:37 PM
I put in my repeat prescription for my blood pressure tablets online as I do every month but when I checked to see if it was ready at the pharmacy it had been rejected by my doctor. I'd not heard anything so rang them.
Evidently he decided it was time to review whether my current prescription is correct or not but didn't bother letting me know, lucky I didn't just pop down the pharmacy. Anyhow, not a problem, let's review it, ok, he'll ring you tomorrow. Ring me? How's he going to know what my blood pressure is over the phone? Apparently he will explain as the surgery still isn't conducting face to face appointments......
I wonder why my blood pressure is high......
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jon898 on October 25, 2021, 07:43:10 PM
Quote from: thebrighton on October 25, 2021, 05:54:37 PM
I put in my repeat prescription for my blood pressure tablets online as I do every month but when I checked to see if it was ready at the pharmacy it had been rejected by my doctor. I'd not heard anything so rang them.
Evidently he decided it was time to review whether my current prescription is correct or not but didn't bother letting me know, lucky I didn't just pop down the pharmacy. Anyhow, not a problem, let's review it, ok, he'll ring you tomorrow. Ring me? How's he going to know what my blood pressure is over the phone? Apparently he will explain as the surgery still isn't conducting face to face appointments......
I wonder why my blood pressure is high......

I was at the ophthalmologist last week for a check-up and to laser off some protein from a cataract lens...130 minutes for 21 minutes of treatment (31 including dilation time).  But wait, (guess I'm good at that now) I got the "how we doing" survey yesterday which included the question "What could we have done to conduct this visit remotely?" - what, you're going to mail me a slit lamp, YAG laser, and train my wife to do this for you?  :doh:

Jon
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 25, 2021, 09:27:03 PM
Quote from: thebrighton on October 25, 2021, 05:54:37 PM
I put in my repeat prescription for my blood pressure tablets online as I do every month but when I checked to see if it was ready at the pharmacy it had been rejected by my doctor. I'd not heard anything so rang them.
Evidently he decided it was time to review whether my current prescription is correct or not but didn't bother letting me know, lucky I didn't just pop down the pharmacy. Anyhow, not a problem, let's review it, ok, he'll ring you tomorrow. Ring me? How's he going to know what my blood pressure is over the phone? Apparently he will explain as the surgery still isn't conducting face to face appointments......
I wonder why my blood pressure is high......

Some years ago I bought a BP tester from a well known pharmacy chain so I could check myself now and then. Recently my practice nurse said my BP was too high and then my GP changed my statins to one that I'd come off before as it caused pains in my calfs. He had once changed me off those to one that didn't ::) Now I can't do my gym exercises. He asked me to monitor my BP twice a morning and twice and evening and keep a spreadsheet. When I had covered a couple of weeks as requested I rang the practice (eventually - you are 15th in the queue >:() and was told I could not e mail them to him and couldn't see him as he was working from home. I had to print it off and post it through their letter box. I never did hear anything from him/them afterwards.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on October 25, 2021, 11:36:47 PM
It wees me off when I have to see my doctor every six months to get a script for BP tablets I've been taking for thirty years.


Similarly, I have to do the same for a referral to my haematologist every six months, when I have been seeing him for ten years.

Every visit to your GP here costs money - no NHS here!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Platy767 on October 26, 2021, 03:30:56 AM
Quote from: Bealman on October 25, 2021, 11:36:47 PM
Every visit to your GP here costs money - no NHS here!
No NHS, but we do have universal health care.

I suggest you change your medical practice to one that bulk bills.

I see my GP for BP pills each 6 months as well - No out of pocket for me, SWMBO or the daughter in the 22 years we have used the practice. The daughter has moved to another suburb, but still goes back for her GP visits.

Different story on the dermatologist and cardiologist as there is some OOP.

Even SWMBO had a surgeon who only charged the Medicare rate for an op in a private hospital earlier this year. We still had the private health care excess and the anesthetist out of pocket, but nothing for the surgeon.

I understand having trust in your GP is important, but you are paying for that loyalty and trust. I guess you pay your money and make your choice.

Mark
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on October 26, 2021, 03:51:14 AM
You are quite correct, of course, Mark. I need to clarify my previous post.

I actually go to the medical centre in town, but before covid I'd often find myself sitting in the waiting room for up to two hours with nothing wrong with me except I needed a script renewing!

I am a member of a health fund (just as well, considering the cost of my two months in hospital and four operations), but often there is still a considerable gap to pay when you see a specialist.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Platy767 on October 26, 2021, 05:15:32 AM
Quote from: Bealman on October 26, 2021, 03:51:14 AM
I am a member of a health fund (just as well, considering the cost of my two months in hospital and four operations), but often there is still a considerable gap to pay when you see a specialist.

I totally agree with you on this. As far as I am aware, Medicare rebates 75% of the scheduled fee, except it is hard to find a specialist who charges the scheduled fee. The health fund rebates the other 25% value of the scheduled fee (if it is in hospital (I think) No health fund rebate for outpatient sevices (I think)). Once again, as far as I am aware, there is no current regulation as to what can be charged. I think there should be some regulation ie: max 2 or 3 times scheduled fee, but also the scheduled fees need to be reviewed (I think some are uneconomically too low at the moment).

Then again, some can do it, and we were pleasantly very surprised by the wife's surgeon earlier this year with no bill to pay.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 26, 2021, 09:24:31 AM
I have a website which allows me to order repeat prescriptions from my GP practice and have them delivered to my local pharmacy, something I have to do every 2 months. Unless the practice advises me of any change this arrangement just continues until something radical occurs.
I'm meant to see a heart consultant at Chorley hospital every 6 months but have not seen anyone for 2 years due to Covid. They just advise me via a letter the consultant will telephone me on a certain day/time. Likewise I'm meant to go to Blackpool hospital (60 mile round trip) once a year to have my internal defibrillator checked out but it is also done weekly by a 'white box' next to my bed which scans the items and sends the results to Boston Scientific labs via the internet. Blackpool then get a report from them each week. I've not been to the hospital for a couple of years.
It all helps to avoid sitting with 'ill' people and to lessen the chance of getting infected.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on October 26, 2021, 09:56:37 AM
Blood pressure prescription update:
Phone rings

This is Dr (?) how can I help you?

I put in my repeat prescription online and you declined it so I rang and the receptionist said you needed to talk to me.

Let's see, ah yes, I've confirmed it now and your pharmacist should have it available by tomorrow....

What a colossal waste of time.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 26, 2021, 10:54:34 AM
Quote from: thebrighton on October 26, 2021, 09:56:37 AM
What a colossal waste of time.

Agreed, Gareth. As you say, they wonder why our BP is raised! ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on October 26, 2021, 11:28:10 AM
I had a regular diabetic blood test and a few weeks after I had a phone call to say that my white blood cell count was extremely high .I was due to go to John Radcliffe Hospital for a check upafter an operation so my surgery wanted me to have another blood test so that the surgeon could see the result .
High white blood cells could be the sign of Leukaemia so I was getting a bit worried ,I had the second blood test and took the results over to the hospital and told the surgeon what the surgery had told me about the first test results .
He looked at the sheets and then got a ruler and looked at each line on both results  he looked very puzzled so I asked what was wrong .
He said there is nothing wrong with your results at all so he had no idea why they had got me so worried . 
Its not the first time my surgery have got me scared ,a few years ago I had a chest Xray because of a breathing problem ,I then had a letter to go to Amersham hospital to see a cancer specialist .
We arrived at the appointment on time after both me and my wife taking a day off work we were told to wait and some one would be along to see me .
A lady in a white coat called my name and we went in to the room and sat down ,to be greeted with Good afternoon Mr Tidbury and what can I do for you today
I said no I was told to come to see you and showed her the letter .
She went on the computer and looked at various screens and said that she had absolutely know idea why I was there and she apologised for waisting my time and she would investigate why I was told to go  and see her ,we never ever had any reply .
You can imagine how worried I was being sent to a lung cancer specialist ,but ended up a waist of time and never knowing why or what went wrong .
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on October 26, 2021, 10:38:54 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on October 26, 2021, 09:24:31 AM
I have a website which allows me to order repeat prescriptions from my GP practice and have them delivered to my local pharmacy, something I have to do every 2 months.

Mick, why don't you just use Pharmacy2U like I do? You request on the website and they deliver to your home address for free. Means you can spend more time on the layout too. Unless of course it's a good excuse to get out some times.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on October 26, 2021, 11:11:34 PM
Quote from: Bob Tidbury on October 26, 2021, 11:28:10 AM
You can imagine how worried I was being sent to a lung cancer specialist ,but ended up a waist of time and never knowing why or what went wrong .
Bob Tidbury

Some years ago, I was suffering from a skin problem and my GP referred me to a Dermatologist. She, in turn, wanted to rule out Tuberculosis and ordered a chest X-ray. The next thing, I was referred to a Cancer specialist and given blood tests, called in and told that I definitely had Lymphoma and that they'd need to bring me in for investigation to determine stage and grade, but that as it was just before Christmas, they couldn't do it for some weeks.

You can imagine the upset and worry, waiting three weeks, over Christmas, when my wife was 7-1/2 months pregnant with our third child and the other two were only two and four years old! We couldn't even talk to anyone about it, as I didn't want to worry my parents until I knew more.

After Christmas, I was called back in on a Wednesday for a general check-over, ready for a general anaesthetic on Friday. However, I had to go into hospital on Thursday evening - simply because they might have given my bed away if I wasn't there! What's wrong with a reserved sign?

On the Friday, they knocked me out, stuck a camera down my windpipe, into my lungs and cut a hole in my chest to put a camera in there. On coming round in recovery, I started choking (I can remember struggling and it needing six people to hold me down) and they had to knock me out again and re-intubate.

When I came round, they moved me to the High Dependency Unit for the night - but they'd left my pregnant wife worrying for five hours after I was supposed to come out of theatre.

A week later they phoned the results through - no sign of cancer, but positive biopsies for Sarcoidosis (a generally self-limiting condition, that goes away in 6 to 18 months) ... which my wife had been suggesting to them from the start, but they'd totally dismissed!

A month of stress for us both, unpaid time off work, a near brush with death - and all for nothing, as their diagnosis had been wrong.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NinOz on October 27, 2021, 05:51:10 AM
Quote from: Jon898 on October 25, 2021, 07:43:10 PM
............what, you're going to mail me a slit lamp, YAG laser, and train my wife to do this for you?  :doh:
Jon
Wait, don't be hasty.  Is there any modelling potential in the equipment?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on October 27, 2021, 09:02:43 AM
Steve Walker ,I know how you and your wife must have felt ,lack of communication is terrible for people like us not knowing what the future will be and then finding not as serious as we thought .
On a better note just before Christmas I did a Bowel Cancer test and had the results back to say blood was detected ,
Since then I have had a CT scan an M R I scan five camera examinations ,11 polyps and a three and a half cm lump removed SO THEY DO get things right sometimes .
I RECOMEND THAT IF ANY OF YOU GET A REQUST TO DO A BOWEL CANCER TEST TO DO IT  the lump I had was removed before it turned cancerous and could have been fatal .
DONT PUT THE TEST OFF its no good saying Im fine you dont know whats going on inside your body as there are no real signs apart from a bit of blood now and then .
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 27, 2021, 12:01:55 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on October 26, 2021, 10:38:54 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on October 26, 2021, 09:24:31 AM
I have a website which allows me to order repeat prescriptions from my GP practice and have them delivered to my local pharmacy, something I have to do every 2 months.

Mick, why don't you just use Pharmacy2U like I do? You request on the website and they deliver to your home address for free. Means you can spend more time on the layout too. Unless of course it's a good excuse to get out some times.

My pharmacy is just up the road and I pass it twice a week. I've never asked them to deliver but, one day, there was a knock at the door (why do people rap on the door when there's a doorbell at eye level? First thing when I open the door is to ring the doorbell then look at them as if they're mad) and my friend Kev from the gym held out a bag of meds. I told him not to bother delivering them but to give people more needy of the service a chance, so I collect mine while ever I'm able.
There's no way I'm getting stuff delivered like shopping and meds or I'll become one of these hermits who have no human contact whatsoever. That's just sad unless medically advised.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 27, 2021, 02:55:51 PM
As Bob says, do not put off any test if offered. A few years ago, my Doctor did a PSA test and to cut a long story short, after my PSA count was found to be in the 20's, (should have been about 5), then two 'digital' examinations, two biopsies  and a later MRI scan, they decided that I "probably did have cancer".  After a different sort of prostate biopsy, done under general anaesthetic, I was eventually told that I "probably do not have cancer". The Consultant decided that he would change my medication and they would keep a watch on my 6 monthly PSA test and they would not do anything unless the figure rises much above 6. Fortunately in the last few years, I have only had one result that was slightly above 6 - and nobody seemed bothered, so I'm not. So although I lived with the thought that I might have cancer for over 12 months and was angry, (in one way), but relieved when they finally said that it probably was not cancer, I now work on the theory that I haven't. So to go back to the beginning, if offered a test, get it, even if it does mean a period of worry.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on October 27, 2021, 05:28:40 PM
Saturday evening, 7:15pm, 'Strictly...' about to start. Glow of reversing and red tail lights visible on the opaque window blinds. Sound of a van reversing. Odd sound as van stops and goes forward. Daffy hotfoots it outside as large white van, having turned around just up the road, passes by and stops outside neighbours house.

Daffy shines torch around - half of front post and rail fence trashed! :veryangry:

Approaches man getting out a van. Man unaware (he says) that he has demolished said fence. Soon admits he did though and politely gives me all his address, telephone number and vehicle reg details. And the contact number for ...  Yodel. (he was delivering to neighbour).

Sunday to Monday afternoon no reply on driver's given mobile number, but he just happens to be delivering across the road mid-afternoon while I'm digging out posts so I ask him what's happening. Most apologetic and says his boss (a delivery agent) will contact me definitely tomorrow.

Tuesday comes and goes. Nothing.

Wednesday. A reminder not to try to speak to a human being at Yodel via any available phone number as you can't! You get advised by a machine to go online and a 'Webchat' with someone who will eventually conclude you have to email them at property.damage@yodel.co.uk.

Happily get a call a few hours later from a nice lady with a long name who tells me my case is being referred and they will get back to me within 24 to 48 hours.

Meanwhile, no fencing contractor near me able to do the work for yonks so I'm doing it myself. Looks like materials costs will be honoured but it might be a bit of an argument to get any of my own labour hours reimbursed in any way. Oh, and i'm advised not to do any work yet until I've had a trader do an estimate. 

Fence is essential to keep delivery drivers and Posties from stepping all over my garden, and dogs from doing their thing on SWMBO's prized plants, so sod'em! I'm getting wood delivered tomorrow morning (rapid set concrete already here) from same supplier most of them around here use. Need to get the posts in tomorrow as it's set to rain a lot Friday afternoon onwards and this flat low-lying land I live on will get well soggy and stay that way for yonks.

Ah well, at least I can get a better fence built, adding extra rails and posts at my own expense once the damaged part is replaced. Every cloud......

But I'm not really that philosophical, just  :censored:

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 27, 2021, 05:45:38 PM
bet the response would have been much better if you had
1. reported vehicle for leaving the scene of an accident
2. reported failure to exchange details after an accident
3. put a Denver boot on said van and said "I;ll remove it when claim settled"

but then I'm a bolshie old sod who does NOT believe that the pen is mightier than the sword / AK47 /Armalite or even a Browning high power. :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 27, 2021, 08:19:08 PM
What chance of getting an ex-police 'Stinger' to set road side of the fence? >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 27, 2021, 09:16:19 PM
probably sue him fir the cost of the tyres  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on October 27, 2021, 09:18:19 PM
A Stinger, eh. :hmmm:  Well, I've got a jar of galvanised clout nails. They might work until I got arrested. :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 27, 2021, 09:28:30 PM
of course, he could always replace the wooden fence with wood clad RSJs set in concrete !

do more damage to the van than the fence  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 28, 2021, 06:35:21 PM
bearing in mind my previous record of offences and punishments,
but after watching the local 6 o'clock news with reference to the protesters breaking in to Fawley refinery, and their 'pr statements by a couple of Olympians' I could not help but wonder [a] how they all got there to protest, assuming not all travelled in electric vehicles, and noted that the said Olympians seemed not to feel so strongly about fossil fuels when they were flying around the world to take part.

ok, I'll pack my bag and head towards the naughty step, yet again  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 28, 2021, 06:39:47 PM
Quote from: class37025 on October 28, 2021, 06:35:21 PM
ok, I'll pack my bag and head towards the naughty step, yet again  :-[

I am not sure about the legalities Alan, but I believe you could claim squatters rights.  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on October 28, 2021, 06:41:00 PM
Quote from: class37025 on October 28, 2021, 06:35:21 PM
bearing in mind my previous record of offences and punishments,
but after watching the local 6 o'clock news with reference to the protesters breaking in to Fawley refinery, and their 'pr statements by a couple of Olympians' I could not help but wonder [a] how they all got there to protest, assuming not all travelled in electric vehicles, and noted that the said Olympians seemed not to feel so strongly about fossil fuels when they were flying around the world to take part.

ok, I'll pack my bag and head towards the naughty step, yet again  :-[

Well, you better shove over and make room for me. I'm tired of all these 'celebrities' who've had a very nice privileged time trundling all round the world making their fame and fortune, now deciding that they're 'holier than thow', and telling me how to live my life.

Hmm, this steps roomier than I thought.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 28, 2021, 06:44:31 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on October 28, 2021, 06:39:47 PM
Quote from: class37025 on October 28, 2021, 06:35:21 PM
ok, I'll pack my bag and head towards the naughty step, yet again  :-[

I am not sure about the legalities Alan, but I believe you could claim squatters rights.  :)

I think it's a bit like a booking at Premier Inn using a credit card, I can cancel my reservation by 16:00hrs with no charge  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on October 28, 2021, 06:56:19 PM
That naughty step will be pretty full when I join you ,I too wonder how all these protesters get to their protest I bet they dont walk or go on their pushbikes .
And how about electric cars having LESS polution they still need power to make them and to produce the elecricity which we get from France who are just commisioning  five new coal fired generating plants to keep up with the demand ,and then the cost of recycling the batteries as well .Just doesnt make any sense to me .
Perhaps we should all keep horses and sell the byproduct to the gardners
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 28, 2021, 07:02:04 PM
I think all these things about pollution as pointed out by Bob are well known, but the 'powers that be' push ahead with the 'greener' solutions, as it sounds like they care - it is all just a sop to please some sections of the population. And as for cycle lanes ............ move over gents and make some room.  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 28, 2021, 07:02:35 PM
don't get me wrong, I do believe in their right to protest about what they feel is an important subject to them,

but I would have been far more likely to support them if they had, for example, decided to march to Glasgow, and demonstrate against the no doubt millions of fossil fueled miles of air travel used to get the so called VIPs, staff, armoured cars etc to the meeting.

it wasn't long ago we had another jolly er serious meeting about global warming where they all flew to south america.

have these people never heard of the concept of VIDEO CONFERENCING, surely they don't need the duty frees or air miles do they ?

room for an old one on the step ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 28, 2021, 07:05:03 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on October 28, 2021, 07:02:04 PM
I think all these things about pollution as pointed out by Bob are well known, but the 'powers that be' push ahead with the 'greener' solutions, as it sounds like they care - it is all just a sop to please some sections of the population. And as for cycle lanes ............ move over gents and make some room.  ;)

room for one more on the top deck  :D

and apologies to Mick, @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264), for the doubtless increase to his, and the other MOD's, workload.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Firstone18 on October 28, 2021, 07:31:10 PM
With regard to electric cars, have a look at this article if you think they really are the answer as the politicians would have us believe: https://www.theengineer.co.uk/guest-blog-ev-lca/ (https://www.theengineer.co.uk/guest-blog-ev-lca/)
Then look up the environmental impact of lithium mining in South America - it is truly awful.
Apologies to the moderators if this is not a suitable subject for this forum.
Cheers
Keith
NGS 21472
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on October 28, 2021, 07:31:38 PM
Alright fellas?  Anyone wanna biscuit?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 28, 2021, 07:35:38 PM
oh, thank you. got any Jaffa cakes ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mickeyflinn on October 28, 2021, 07:38:26 PM
Quote from: class37025 on October 28, 2021, 07:35:38 PM
oh, thank you. got any Jaffa cakes ?

They're not biscuits. I'll get my coat.  :bounce:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on October 28, 2021, 07:49:50 PM
Quote from: class37025 on October 28, 2021, 07:35:38 PM
oh, thank you. got any Jaffa cakes ?

Sorry, ate 'em all last time I was here for a rant. Bourbon?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 28, 2021, 07:54:45 PM
no ta, I'll just have a digestive. have you tried the Jaffa cake doughnuts ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 28, 2021, 07:56:27 PM
Quote from: mickeyflinn on October 28, 2021, 07:38:26 PM
Quote from: class37025 on October 28, 2021, 07:35:38 PM
oh, thank you. got any Jaffa cakes ?

They're not biscuits. I'll get my coat.  :bounce:

think we are going off Topic, oh they are sweets aren't they ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 28, 2021, 08:05:17 PM
if we are not careful, @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) will be renaming this the

Slightly Miffed tread  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Firstone18 on October 28, 2021, 08:36:59 PM
I think Topic was a chocolate bar, perhaps we are getting off topic here?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 28, 2021, 08:40:43 PM
oh, NUTS, whole hazel nuts, got it wrong again  :-[

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topic_(chocolate_bar)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 28, 2021, 09:18:52 PM
Quote from: class37025 on October 25, 2021, 03:54:44 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on October 15, 2021, 10:53:35 PM
He's getting closer to that step now........................

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/115/262-151021225224-1151222319.jpeg)

moi ?

I have learned my lesson, and am reformed !

:hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 28, 2021, 09:28:00 PM
I've not really seen anything to place anyone on the naughty step......................yet, but pollution, electric cars and subjects like the Insulate protestors would be better addressed to the press or even government members rather than have discussions on such divisive topics on this forum..

Quote from: mickeyflinn on October 28, 2021, 07:38:26 PM
Quote from: class37025 on October 28, 2021, 07:35:38 PM
oh, thank you. got any Jaffa cakes ?

They're not biscuits. I'll get my coat.  :bounce:

Working on the acknowledged decision by 'experts' a biscuit, if left too long, goes soggy whereas a cake, if left too long, goes dry.
Ergo Jaffa cakes are cakes :D
(Not that any last long enough with me to do either :-[)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on October 28, 2021, 09:35:42 PM


Ok Kettles on chaps, and the order is what??

Tea - 2 Julie Andrews and a NATO
Coffee - 1 Julie Andrews, 2 Whoopi Goldbergs & a NATO

Any others  ;) ;)

Cheers

Neal.(Teaboy extraodinaire)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on October 28, 2021, 09:44:47 PM
Quote from: Calnefoxile on October 28, 2021, 09:35:42 PM


Ok Kettles on chaps, and the order is what??

Tea - 2 Julie Andrews and a NATO
Coffee - 1 Julie Andrews, 2 Whoopi Goldbergs & a NATO

Any others  ;) ;)

Cheers

Neal.(Teaboy extraodinaire)

Oh!  that sort of order brings back memories of long ago  ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 28, 2021, 09:49:26 PM
far too long ago  :-[ :'(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on October 28, 2021, 10:05:48 PM
Julie Andrews coffee please, I'm sweet enough already.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on October 29, 2021, 03:22:08 AM
Quote from: Calnefoxile on October 28, 2021, 09:35:42 PM


Ok Kettles on chaps, and the order is what??

Tea - 2 Julie Andrews and a NATO
Coffee - 1 Julie Andrews, 2 Whoopi Goldbergs & a NATO

Any others  ;) ;)

Cheers

Neal.(Teaboy extraodinaire)




???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on October 29, 2021, 08:53:50 AM
Quote from: railsquid on October 29, 2021, 03:22:08 AM
Quote from: Calnefoxile on October 28, 2021, 09:35:42 PM


Ok Kettles on chaps, and the order is what??

Tea - 2 Julie Andrews and a NATO
Coffee - 1 Julie Andrews, 2 Whoopi Goldbergs & a NATO

Any others  ;) ;)

Cheers

Neal.(Teaboy extraodinaire)


Ok, let me translate for you,

NATO - NATO Standard, everything in the Military was to a NATO standard, in my day that was Milk & 2 sugars
Julie Andrews - Milk no sugar, in other words White Nun
Whoopi Goldberg - No Milk or Sugar, in other words Black Nun

Regards

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 29, 2021, 09:36:22 AM
No room in the forces for anyone taking one sugar, then? :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on October 29, 2021, 09:39:54 AM
We just need to find out the code for "Blue Nun" now.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 29, 2021, 10:07:23 AM
Quote from: railsquid on October 29, 2021, 09:39:54 AM
We just need to find out the code for "Blue Nun" now.

Must be summat to do with the Navy :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Flange Squeal on October 29, 2021, 10:33:53 AM
Well the menu is certainly simple enough. Maybe NATO should combine forces to operate a multi-national chain of drive-thru coffee restaurants. Something akin to Costa or Starbucks. I believe capitalism in the form of takeaway grub and beverages is the propagator of civil harmony. When the Iron-Curtain fell the first sign of civility was often a McDonalds restaurant appearing in what was previously hostile enemy territory. Surely McDonalds should be recognised for their long history of international peace keeping 😉
Sadly NATO's 70 years boils down to little more than a legacy of risqué names for everyday objects and a few yet to be resolved disgruntled neighbour disputes 😕
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 29, 2021, 11:18:36 AM
Quote from: Flange Squeal on October 29, 2021, 10:33:53 AM
Maybe NATO should combine forces to operate a multi-national chain of drive-thru coffee restaurants. Something akin to Costa or Starbucks.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/115/264-291021111643-1156022174.jpeg)

:sick:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on October 29, 2021, 11:29:15 AM
Quote from: Flange Squeal on October 29, 2021, 10:33:53 AM
Well the menu is certainly simple enough. Maybe NATO should combine forces to operate a multi-national chain of drive-thru coffee restaurants. Something akin to Costa or Starbucks. I believe capitalism in the form of takeaway grub and beverages is the propagator of civil harmony. When the Iron-Curtain fell the first sign of civility was often a McDonalds restaurant appearing in what was previously hostile enemy territory. Surely McDonalds should be recognised for their long history of international peace keeping 😉

Apparently there has never been a war between 2 countries where they both have McDonalds.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 29, 2021, 11:42:48 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on October 29, 2021, 10:07:23 AM
Quote from: railsquid on October 29, 2021, 09:39:54 AM
We just need to find out the code for "Blue Nun" now.

Must be summat to do with the Navy :hmmm:

kye with a tot in it ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 29, 2021, 11:43:47 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on October 29, 2021, 09:36:22 AM
No room in the forces for anyone taking one sugar, then? :P

of course there is

you just take it NATO

but don't stir it  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on October 29, 2021, 11:50:14 AM
Quote from: joe cassidy on October 29, 2021, 11:29:15 AM
Apparently there has never been a war between 2 countries where they both have McDonalds.

That still leaves 90 we should worry about :D
But on the bright side, both Russia and China have them.
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-without-mcdonald-s-restaurants.html (https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-without-mcdonald-s-restaurants.html)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on October 29, 2021, 01:17:05 PM
Quote from: class37025 on October 15, 2021, 01:29:41 PM
being a glutton for punishment, I once again contacted Yokel today to see what was happening with the parcel they say they collected, but then say they didn't.............


It's not just you. I purchased a couple of items off Ebay on 23/10 from different suppliers and both use Yodel :(

The Ebay tracking shows Yodel have them and the depot they have them at (2 different ones) yet Yodel's tracking says they are still on the way to Yodel. I then had a very similar chat with their 'help desk' who claim they haven't got them despite what Ebay's tracking says and they are in the hands of whomever collects them.
So that's nearly a week Yodel claim they have been sitting in the back of someone's van somewhere!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 29, 2021, 01:43:37 PM
gave up in the end, two messages to seller ignored, yokel still saying they hadn't got item, so contacted e-bay [or to be accurate got them to phone me on their phone bill] and raised a complaint.
seller apparently also ignored their messages and so within a few days full refund from E-bay, and I still managed to leave feedback on the sellers.

last time I looked, yokel still showing the same and nothing has arrived.

I just do not understand why yokel show they have received an item when they haven't.
surely a simple 'tracking number supplied - awaiting item' would be much better ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on October 29, 2021, 01:49:38 PM
It's not Yodel's fault, it is either the sellers or 3rd parties that collect them. Hold on Yodel, you must have a contract with the 3rd parties so if they're not passing them on to you surely that's your problem, not mine or the seller (both sellers confirm parcels collected)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on October 29, 2021, 02:42:20 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on October 29, 2021, 09:36:22 AM
No room in the forces for anyone taking one sugar, then? :P

D'you mean officers?!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 29, 2021, 02:44:04 PM
can't remember sugar lumps in ratpacks  :hmmm:

'one lump or two, Cedric?'
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on October 29, 2021, 03:04:11 PM
Quote from: class37025 on October 29, 2021, 02:44:04 PM
can't remember sugar lumps in ratpacks  :hmmm:

You were issues with edible Class 25s?  ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on October 29, 2021, 03:15:09 PM
Change of topic

I think The Angry Thread needs subsets reflecting increasing severity:

Bemused
Mildly Annoyed
Angry
Fuming
Spitting blood
Anarchy and Riot
Taking the :censored: (changed by forum)

:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 29, 2021, 03:56:19 PM
Quote from: joe cassidy on October 29, 2021, 11:29:15 AM
Quote from: Flange Squeal on October 29, 2021, 10:33:53 AM
Well the menu is certainly simple enough. Maybe NATO should combine forces to operate a multi-national chain of drive-thru coffee restaurants. Something akin to Costa or Starbucks. I believe capitalism in the form of takeaway grub and beverages is the propagator of civil harmony. When the Iron-Curtain fell the first sign of civility was often a McDonalds restaurant appearing in what was previously hostile enemy territory. Surely McDonalds should be recognised for their long history of international peace keeping 😉

Apparently there has never been a war between 2 countries where they both have McDonalds.

Who the hell would want a scrap over a piggin' MacDonalds? :confused2:

Quote from: Snowwolflair on October 29, 2021, 03:15:09 PM

I think The Angry Thread needs subsets reflecting increasing severity:


Anyone could rate their anger level between 1 and 10 (for Spinal Tap fans 11 is OK) e.g.
1 = Bemused
10 = Patience? I just wanna kill someone!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Flange Squeal on October 29, 2021, 04:39:59 PM
Anger Level 13 = Psychotic Axe Murderer - (unlucky for some) 😤
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 29, 2021, 05:26:25 PM
what would my number be then, Mick @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) ?
would scale go up to three numbers  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on October 29, 2021, 05:33:23 PM
The way I feel a lot of the time these days I'm not sure that's a good idea.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 29, 2021, 05:37:45 PM
Quote from: joe cassidy on October 29, 2021, 11:29:15 AM

Apparently there has never been a war between 2 countries where they both have McDonalds.

probably because both armies still stuck in the queue for the drive through  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Flange Squeal on October 29, 2021, 05:38:13 PM
Might I suggest pounds per square inch as a suitable scale :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 29, 2021, 05:48:43 PM
Quote from: class37025 on October 29, 2021, 05:37:45 PM

probably because both armies still stuck in the queue for the drive through  :D

Can you imagine the queue? Even the (neutral) Irish Army has over 7000 personnel!
Having said that, did I not see similar sorts of queues in the UK a few weeks ago?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 29, 2021, 05:52:11 PM
NOT for Macdonalds, I'm sure  >:D

isn't a 'neutral' army a contradiction in terms, a bit like 'peacekeepers' with .50 cals on their apcs ?

mind you, a .50 is a real peace keeper in the right circumstances  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Flange Squeal on October 29, 2021, 06:15:59 PM
The real peace keeper is of course vodka. A booze retailed so cheaply it keeps vast masses of socially perturbed civilians suitably sozzled until it's time to go back to work.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on October 29, 2021, 08:06:58 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on October 29, 2021, 11:18:36 AM
Quote from: Flange Squeal on October 29, 2021, 10:33:53 AM
Maybe NATO should combine forces to operate a multi-national chain of drive-thru coffee restaurants. Something akin to Costa or Starbucks.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/115/264-291021111643-1156022174.jpeg)

:sick:

don't tell John @Trainfish (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=262) that, he thinks I am treating him when I buy him one, before relieving him of funds for kit he doesn't want or need.  >:D

mind you, they charge me 5p for a cardboard cup for my coffee which I then chuck in the bin [the cup not the coffee].

wonder if they would give me my coffee in my Greggs reuseable mug if I took it in, and without the surcharge  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 29, 2021, 08:47:04 PM
Quote from: class37025 on October 29, 2021, 05:26:25 PM
what would my number be then, Mick @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) ?
would scale go up to three numbers  :-[

No, I think 11 should be the max. After that, the sin bin (you know the way >:D)

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 29, 2021, 08:52:30 PM
Having ordered my favourite railway calendar for next year I was informed delivery by Royal Fail would be Saturday. Needless to say it arrived yesterday while I was out and the card through my door showed 'Side of house behind drain pipe'.
Sure enough, there it was out in the open with a forecast of pissistent rail all day. Luckily we'd only had a few drops of rain before I found it or it could have been wrecked.
The neighbours both sides were in all day ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on October 29, 2021, 09:37:05 PM
At least it wasn't on the roof, Mick.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 29, 2021, 09:39:22 PM
Quote from: Malc on October 29, 2021, 09:37:05 PM
At least it wasn't on the roof, Mick.

True, Malc. I live in a bungalow in case I get anything delivered by Yodel :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on October 31, 2021, 10:47:09 AM
I put my Roland Piano up for sale on FB market place last night. Within mins I had a so called buyer, he did not tell me where he was and his English was suspect. He agreed the price and said because he was working he could not collect and he would send UPS with the money in a envelope, they would collect the keyboard. I got suspicious when he did not seem bothered the piano is not in a box. Next I get a message from alledgedly  UPS saying the buyer is paying me £100 more than the selling price, you guessed it they want the £100 up front for insurance, not falling for that one so cancelled. So my time wasted plus FB cancelled my ad saying they wanted  me to prove who I am for security, so not very happy.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on November 02, 2021, 04:19:27 PM
Yodel update now they've actually acknowledged they have both parcels. Both say that at 8.09am they were being loaded and at 12.06 were out for delivery, both with Dave. Great news but just wondering why one says estimated delivery date is today and one is tomorrow. I may have to ask Dave when/if he arrives.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 02, 2021, 07:21:15 PM
Don't be too hard on Rodney when he turns up :no: ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on November 02, 2021, 07:47:17 PM
Recently I commented on how my eldest son had difficulty getting his Covid-19 jabs (just under 18, eligible at 17-3/4, but impossible to book in anywhere until 18 and so unable to get his second jab in time for going to university.

Then my middle son was missed out from his jab at school (just turned 16, so 95+ % of his year were vaccinated, but not those that had already turned 16 and I had to take unpaid time off to take him to a walk-in centre).

Before half-term, they were vaccinating my youngest son's year. They asked parents to sign for it before-hand, although it would also be offered to those that had not signed, if the child wanted it. They should therefore have had a good idea of numbers - especially if they vaccinated those that had signed first and then offered it to the rest - but they ran out, even though he had a booked time for an appointment.

They set a new date of today for those that had not been able to get it last time. Again they had run out by his appointment time. We have now been told to take him to a walk-in centre. Most will not take under 16s and so the choice is limited and will involve some travel. We can only access them during my work hours or on Sunday ... but I will be away on Sunday. So it looks like another unpaid afternoon off :(

Just to add to it, I will be eligible for a booster from 2nd December, but it is impossible to now book ahead for it ... as the system won't let me make a booking until I have actually reached that date, so I may then only be able to get an appointment for a week or two later.

Why are they so  :censored: disorganised!!!??? There is clearly no joined up thinking about the whole thing.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on November 04, 2021, 01:53:01 PM
Took my wife to get her 3rd shot (I had mine 6weeks ago). We made an appointment for 11:30 today. Of course they announced that anyone can get one so the queue at the centre was huge. No notice was taken of pre-bookings. PIA.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on November 04, 2021, 10:57:36 PM
Yes, that sort of thing happens here, too. Bloody annoying.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on November 05, 2021, 07:23:49 AM
the government may have announced that walk in jabs are available...
But not here in Norfolk the aren't.. the authorities weren't ready for the announcement and the first two such places will open on Monday.. for an area of 2047 square miles...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on November 08, 2021, 04:40:24 PM
This is scandolous, the vaccination process this time is chaotic, I am taking my 85 year old father in law on Thursday there better not be a queue because he is worse than me and won't queue.
On another topic, I am selling my piano on e bay, advertised has collect only. Some idiot has bid and had the winning bid and he expects it to be delivered. He is a complete idiot because he asked me if I could deliver after bidding and I told him the add was for collect only and he bid again. I have managed to cancel his bids but it has probably cost me some bids.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 09, 2021, 03:34:56 PM
back where I belong  :D :-[

sunday our eldest grandson had a call from one of his mates to say that he'd tested positive for covid.

as our gransdon had stayed at ours saturday night, SWMBO and I took lateral flow tests monday, which were both negative, and our daughter had to take heself and three sons for a PCR test.

she and the younger two were negative, but the eldest was positive.
so today she's getting called by so called track and trace ............

she of course said we'd been in contact, so this afternoon we had the call as well........ for SWMBO, who was not well at the time.

'this call is being recorded' etc and then a pile of questions, including SWMBO's 'ethnicity'.

I had already explained we'd done tests and were negative, but of course they need to tick all their boxes to get their bonuses.

but at that question I saw red, I know, so out of character for me  :P

'why do you need to know that ?'
'we do'
'well, I consider that question to be borderline racist. do you treat different ethnicities in different ways ?'
'err, no. you can decline to answer'
'declined'

it sort of went down hill after that, but just as I was calming down, my daughter phoned and in the conversation she mentioned that when T&T were on the phone to her, they wanted all the grandson's details, and also 'how do they consider themselves'

pardon

male / female / other gender

eldest - male
middle - male
youngest - dinosaur

I can't accept that

well he's three years old and says he's a dinosaur. make of that what you want.

in the background sounds of ' grrrrrr me dinosaur grrrr'

is it me, or is all this  :poop: just political correctness gone mad  :hmmm:

now waiting for the call from them for me, as the numnuts who called before could not manage to deal with both our details in one call.

biscuits, jaffa cakes, cushion [the naughty step is bare wood], thermos check, good to go  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on November 09, 2021, 03:48:33 PM
 :laughabovepost:

What a strange coincidence...Mini Skyline is so convinced he is a "Raptor" that whenever he is told to be a bit quieter he "sneaks" about like said two-legged bitey beast....

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 09, 2021, 03:52:15 PM
[gmod]Oh no :telloff: You don't get sent there so easily :no: Besides, we're starting to think you enjoy it too much.[/gmod]

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on November 09, 2021, 03:58:33 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on November 09, 2021, 03:52:15 PM
Oh no  :telloff: You don't get sent there so easily  :no: Besides, we're starting to think you enjoy it too much.

Well, it is a little like a social club now. We all have our 'spots' and standing orders for brew and biscuits.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on November 09, 2021, 04:22:25 PM
No wonder the take up rate of the Covid booster jab isn't as high as they'd like. Just had my notification that I can get mine so onto the NHS website I go. 4 weeks time and on one specific day and over 20 miles away. Exactly the same for my parents who are in their 80's with no means of transport other than buses and you can't get to Flimwell from Eastbourne by bus.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 09, 2021, 06:20:50 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on November 09, 2021, 03:58:33 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on November 09, 2021, 03:52:15 PM
Oh no  :telloff: You don't get sent there so easily  :no: Besides, we're starting to think you enjoy it too much.

Well, it is a little like a social club now. We all have our 'spots' and standing orders for brew and biscuits.

perhaps we should form a committee  [wheel tappers and shunters reference for those of tender years  :-[ ]
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 09, 2021, 06:54:51 PM
Quote from: thebrighton on November 09, 2021, 04:22:25 PM
No wonder the take up rate of the Covid booster jab isn't as high as they'd like. Just had my notification that I can get mine so onto the NHS website I go. 4 weeks time and on one specific day and over 20 miles away. Exactly the same for my parents who are in their 80's with no means of transport other than buses and you can't get to Flimwell from Eastbourne by bus.

basically the 'system' is broke.

SWMBO and I both got our text messages to book, 'just click on this link' - unfortunately Boris hasn't sent us 'smart' phones yet so had to go on line.

simple yes ? all I need is to find two appointments next to one another, book one for SWMBO then log off as her, log on as me and book the other  :thumbsup:

no chance  >:(

we were offered two options...

Claire Hall Haywards Heath - appointments available
or
Claire Hall Haywards Heath - no appointments available  :hmmm:

decided to try the 'appointments available' version, but unable, even in the future, to find two appointments next to one another.

with our first and second jabs these were organised by our surgery, and we could book as a 'double', but the surgery not involved in boosters as it's apparently been outsourced to some company.

any way, booked SWMBO her appointment, then logged out and logged in as me with the intention of finding something near the time so we could at least just make one journey.....

her appt 14:50, suddenly one available at 15:00  >:(

several of our friends have found the same thing. why can't they just list all appts on one list  :veryangry:

oh, and don't think of trying to phone them to see if you can do a double appointment, NO CONTACT NUMBER OR E-MAIL  :censored: on the site.

you could not belive this in a tv series.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 09, 2021, 07:30:13 PM
what I find much more worrying is the report on the news this evening that, in spite of massive shortages of nurses in one report, the next has Javid saying that if staff don't get jabbed they will have to find another job.

hang on, rewind a year or so, and massive reporting of how thousands of NHS staff were getting priority for jabs, now it's a case of 'oh they didn't' and the standard manager's response of 'FI-FO'.

we've already seen this with care workers, now it's nurses ?

and yet still there seems to be a large percentage of 'health professionals' who don't want it ?

including, on the news, an interview with a nurse or theatre tech who wouldn't have the jab, even though he had had covid already ???

whayt does that tell the ordinary man in the street about the jab / booster.

if so called health professionals won't have it why should they ?

and as for 'we have 1,000s of nurses vacencies we can't fill, so we're going to effectively sack a pile of the ones we have ??

soon all the NHS will have is administrators  :hmmm: :hmmm:

ahh

light bulb moment, perhaps that is the plan.
NHS could be so efficient if we didn't have any nurses / doctors / patients, just pen pushers  >:D

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on November 09, 2021, 08:26:25 PM
I know were you are coming from with this Covid lark, a friend who lives Little Lever near Bolton, was told he had to go to St Helens for a booster. I managed to find out there is a Chemist in Breightmet Bolton next to the health centre where he had his second jab, so he is going there tomorrow. A friend of mine went and there was a massive queue after they said you can just turn up. I booked the wife last night there was a 1000 people in front of me on the online queue, must admit it went down pretty fast so she can have her's on the 30th November.
Don't know who has organised this it's chaotic this time round, and like somebody said the doctors surgery's don't want to know. Anybody who does not have internet access has no chance.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: gc4946 on November 09, 2021, 10:59:31 PM
This time the Covid booster jabs are handled differently.
I had both my earlier jabs in a repurposed conference centre next to Leeds United's ground on Sunday afternoons.
Now my appointment is nearer to me geographically, in a doctor's surgery, but not my regular one.
However none of the venues nearest to me offered any weekend sessions online, so had to arrange mine on a weekday, fortunately I'm working from home that day.
Surely they could have been arranged in the same way the flu jabs were organised this year, I had mine in my local surgery on a Saturday morning and was out quickly afterwards.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 10, 2021, 12:16:03 PM
Had an e mail this morning inviting me to make my booster appointment. However, it states twice in that mail I cannot book it until 6 months after my second jab.
Are they not aware this week that period was reduced to 5 months?? ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 10, 2021, 12:30:30 PM
seems not.
during both of my conversations with T&T yesterday, see earlier posts, I explained the both SWMBO and I had had both jabs and had out boosters booked for tomorrow.

the response ?
'was your last jab more than 6 months ago'

tongue bitten then
'I refer you to my staement that our boosters are booked tomorrow !'

they just read the script, which no one has updated, and do not seem to listen to what you say.

while risking being accused of being racist, but as they started it with asking for our 'ethnicity' I woulkd comment that both calls seem to be made from Mumbai, so perhaps outsourced like so many jobs.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on November 10, 2021, 06:29:55 PM
Mick, @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) they have changed the booking to 5 months because by the time you are on 182 days you end up waiting three weeks for the jab. You still can not have the booster jab till 182 days after second jab, but you can book earlier. The wife had her second vaccine on the 1st June, I have now booked her for the 30th of November(183days).Chris
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 10, 2021, 07:10:47 PM
@lil chris (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1784) Thanks Chris. Bit of a bummer as I have to take my sister tomorrow pm for hers. For the sake of 2 days till my 6 months is up I wonder whether they'll stick me as a walk in :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on November 10, 2021, 07:18:16 PM
Hi Mick they have a chart and they look when your last vaccine was. I am taking my 85 year old father-in-law tomorrow, hope there is not a queue, he hates queue's, mind you so do I. Lol
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on November 11, 2021, 02:10:45 PM
Angry today with post office, the guy on the van tried to deliver my parcel from wwscenics. I was out taking my 85 year old father in law for his booster. He has taken it back to the sorting office, I can not collect till tomorrow, trouble is no idea when it's open, no opening times on the door or anything, hopeless.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on November 11, 2021, 03:43:35 PM
Around here, it is 07:00 to 12:00 - which is an absolute pain when I start work at 07:00, 12 miles away! Incidentally, the red card that they leave us, has the opening times of the local depot on the back ... maybe they're just (slightly) better organised here.

You can also get it redirected to any local post-office and you can collect whenever they are open (typically to 17:30 around here), but it costs you extra (50p last time I needed it).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on November 11, 2021, 03:52:58 PM
Thanks Steve, there are no times on my card, just online and phone number for re delivery. Last time I tried that it was a few days, last time I went to the delivery office it was only open a couple of hours because of covid, so not sure if they have gone back to normal hours yet.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: RailGooner on November 11, 2021, 03:59:45 PM
Try online at https://www.royalmail.com/services-near-you#/ (https://www.royalmail.com/services-near-you#/)
:beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on November 12, 2021, 01:10:21 PM
Bloody snowflake world in which we live.
To earn a few bob I am an exam invigilator, a senior one no less, and after this mornings exam I was having a chat with one of the admin assistants (of which the schools seems to have more of than actual teachers) about the world today and some of the pupils past and present who just cause aggro everyday, disrupt the exams etc. Anyhow about midway through I joked that some people (not said pupils) need rounding up, put in a field and bombed. I thought nothing of it and the chat went on for another 5-10 minutes or so.
After I got home I received a call to say the admin member had been offended that I thought people should be rounded up etc and put in a complaint under the 'safeguarding' mantel that I may harm some of the students so I now find myself suspended pending investigation.
When did the world leave me behind? It took me under 5 seconds of consideration to type out my resignation as I just can't be bothered to go into a hearing to defend a throw away comment taken out of context and used as ammunition by someone trying to make a name for themselves.
Rant over :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on November 12, 2021, 01:22:27 PM
Quote from: thebrighton on November 12, 2021, 01:10:21 PM
I joked that some people (not said pupils) need rounding up, put in a field and shot.
..............taken out of context and used as ammunition................

In fairness you would need quite a lot of ammunition  :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 12, 2021, 01:26:54 PM
Quote from: thebrighton on November 12, 2021, 01:10:21 PM
Bloody snowflake world in which we live.
To earn a few bob I am an exam invigilator, a senior one no less, and after this mornings exam I was having a chat with one of the admin assistants (of which the schools seems to have more of than actual teachers) about the world today and some of the pupils past and present who just cause aggro everyday, disrupt the exams etc. Anyhow about midway through I joked that some people (not said pupils) need rounding up, put in a field and shot. I thought nothing of it and the chat went on for another 5-10 minutes or so.
After I got home I received a call to say the admin member had been offended that I though people should be rounded up etc and put in a complaint under the 'safeguarding' mantel that I may harm some of the students so I now find myself suspended pending investigation.
When did the world leave me behind? It took me under 5 seconds of consideration to type out my resignation as I just can't be bothered to go into a hearing to defend a throw away comment taken out of context and used as ammunition by someone trying to make a name for themselves.
Rant over :)

I'm afraid typical of the world today, at least here.

of course, in some countries said offenders would be herded into a field and shot, and no one would say a word.

anyway, just to let you know, a place reserved for you on the step, please advise your preferences for biscuits and beverages to ..

the committee
Naughty step
NGF.

:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on November 12, 2021, 02:26:02 PM
I'm wondering whether to start a spreadsheet to avoid confusion when it's brew time.

:hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on November 12, 2021, 02:35:49 PM
The most annoying bit is I said "need rounding up, put in a field and shot" so misquoted Kenny Everett's General Cheeseburger, sorry Kenny!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: mark100 on November 12, 2021, 03:05:24 PM
Quote from: class37025 on November 09, 2021, 07:30:13 PM


whayt does that tell the ordinary man in the street about the jab / booster.


Its a trial vaccine which I believed was voluntary, the NHS staff are seeing what is going on with their own eyes.

This is the UK Governments Public health England site which tells a different story to what we hear on the news. page 19 and page 20 on the link I have posted, although the very bottom line on page 20 raises eyebrows for Delta strain.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1018547/Technical_Briefing_23_21_09_16.pdf

February 2021 to September 2021

Vaccinated total 1779
broken down
during 1st 21 days = 17
after 1st 21 days = 149
fully vaccinated = 1613

unvaccinated = 722

if you are on Facebook take a look at Gareth Walton's timeline which includes a USA Senator talking about the Public health England figures which I have just posted.


Time will tell if it gets better or gets worse but no one should be forced to take this.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 12, 2021, 03:41:35 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on November 12, 2021, 02:26:02 PM
I'm wondering whether to start a spreadsheet to avoid confusion when it's brew time.

We could take this a step further and book appointments for 'the step'. That way, we could make our comments and know that there was a place reserved on 'the step' if it was deemed necessary.   :hmmm:
P.S. Custard cream and coffee, one sugar, for me please.  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 12, 2021, 03:48:10 PM
"coffee, one sugar, for me please"

so
NATO
not stirred  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 12, 2021, 03:51:23 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on November 12, 2021, 01:22:27 PM
Quote from: thebrighton on November 12, 2021, 01:10:21 PM
I joked that some people (not said pupils) need rounding up, put in a field and shot.
..............taken out of context and used as ammunition................

In fairness you would need quite a lot of ammunition  :goggleeyes:

probably, once consultants fees settled, there wouldn't be enough left in the defence budget to buy any bullets. :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on November 12, 2021, 04:00:16 PM
Anyone in a care situation should want to protect their 'charges' as much as possible, surely that's the point of nursing and care. If they can't be bothered to protect patients by having a vaccination then should they really be in that role?

As for any Warner Brothers University educated chump on FarceBook, well they can stick their tinfoil hat back on and trundle back to the Flat Earth Society.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 12, 2021, 04:45:38 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on November 12, 2021, 03:41:35 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on November 12, 2021, 02:26:02 PM
I'm wondering whether to start a spreadsheet to avoid confusion when it's brew time.

We could take this a step further and book appointments for 'the step'. That way, we could make our comments and know that there was a place reserved on 'the step' if it was deemed necessary.   :hmmm:
P.S. Custard cream and coffee, one sugar, for me please.  ;)

at this rate you'll need to be proposed, seconded, and approved before you can join 'the club'.

I'm lucky I got in early and got a lifetime membership.

coffee Nato and two Jaffa cakes please, oi you're in my seat!  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on November 12, 2021, 04:51:06 PM
We already have Chairmanperson and Vice-Chair, I suppose a Social Secretary could be useful.

That said, last one in has to serve their 'time' as brew maker, obviously.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: chrism on November 12, 2021, 04:52:02 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on November 12, 2021, 04:00:16 PM
Anyone in a care situation should want to protect their 'charges' as much as possible, surely that's the point of nursing and care. If they can't be bothered to protect patients by having a vaccination then should they really be in that role?

As for any Warner Brothers University educated chump on FarceBook, well they can stick their tinfoil hat back on and trundle back to the Flat Earth Society.

Assuming that the FES would actually want them  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on November 12, 2021, 04:52:23 PM
Quote from: mark100 on November 12, 2021, 03:05:24 PM
Quote from: class37025 on November 09, 2021, 07:30:13 PM


whayt does that tell the ordinary man in the street about the jab / booster.


Its a trial vaccine which I believed was voluntary, the NHS staff are seeing what is going on with their own eyes.



That's where they're going wrong, it's not supposed to go in their eyes!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on November 12, 2021, 04:58:40 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on November 12, 2021, 04:51:06 PM
We already have Chairmanperson and Vice-Chair, I suppose a Social Secretary could be useful.

That said, last one in has to serve their 'time' as brew maker, obviously.

I'll take the job of brew maker  :beers:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/71/262-051118021742.jpeg)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: chrism on November 12, 2021, 05:01:00 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on November 12, 2021, 04:58:40 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on November 12, 2021, 04:51:06 PM
We already have Chairmanperson and Vice-Chair, I suppose a Social Secretary could be useful.

That said, last one in has to serve their 'time' as brew maker, obviously.

I'll take the job of brew maker  :beers:

Zyder, one assumes?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on November 12, 2021, 05:13:56 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on November 12, 2021, 04:58:40 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on November 12, 2021, 04:51:06 PM
We already have Chairmanperson and Vice-Chair, I suppose a Social Secretary could be useful.

That said, last one in has to serve their 'time' as brew maker, obviously.

I'll take the job of brew maker  :beers:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/71/262-051118021742.jpeg)

Well, you're no flamin' use, you left the bag in too long.

Mr Chair, move to remove him from the 'step'.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 12, 2021, 05:16:37 PM
seconded  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on November 12, 2021, 05:24:06 PM
Quote from: class37025 on November 12, 2021, 05:16:37 PM
seconded  :thumbsup:

:smackedface:

You just can't get the staff.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 12, 2021, 07:36:34 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on November 12, 2021, 04:58:40 PM
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/71/262-051118021742.jpeg)

Looks like there's already been a motion
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on November 13, 2021, 12:26:27 AM
I think you're all being rather unfair. It's a bit like me, it gets better with age and let's face it, it hasn't done me any harm  :hmmm:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/71/262-101118185140-713661510.jpeg)

Quote from: chrism on November 12, 2021, 05:01:00 PM
Zyder, one assumes?

It is indeed Chris  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 13, 2021, 10:26:21 AM
you have seen your avatar  :hmmm: :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 13, 2021, 11:17:34 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on November 13, 2021, 12:26:27 AM
I think you're all being rather unfair. It's a bit like me, it gets better with age and let's face it, it hasn't done me any harm  :hmmm:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/71/262-101118185140-713661510.jpeg)


Heaven help you if they're urine samples destined for the GP :goggleeyes: :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on November 13, 2021, 11:57:05 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on November 13, 2021, 11:17:34 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on November 13, 2021, 12:26:27 AM
I think you're all being rather unfair. It's a bit like me, it gets better with age and let's face it, it hasn't done me any harm  :hmmm:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/71/262-101118185140-713661510.jpeg)


Heaven help you if they're urine samples destined for the GP :goggleeyes: :worried:

Yeeeah, there ain't no vaccine for what he's got.

:doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 13, 2021, 01:16:16 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on November 12, 2021, 05:24:06 PM
Quote from: class37025 on November 12, 2021, 05:16:37 PM
seconded  :thumbsup:

:smackedface:

You just can't get the staff.

sorry, must have missed the e-mail advising me that I'd be elected to the chair, having been sat in/on it for so long.

not sure I am happy about it, seems we are getting to like politics, the one at the top has a chair, the rest sit on the step / benches.

I move for an equal quality of seating for all members !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 13, 2021, 07:24:27 PM
let me be honest...

I HATE CHRISTMAS !

it starts in august, has no relationship with the true theme, and is basically an excuse for supermarkets to move everything around so you can't find what you want, and if you can it has been repackaged, and of course repriced upwards, for christmas.

just returned from the bane of my life, Tesco, with SWMBO.

when I shop, it's a list / trolley / filled / paid and out of the door in under 30 minutes.

she came with me  >:(

nearly an hour later I finally managed to get her out of the doors, with about twice what we needed / wanted and a much lighter wallet  :censored:

"its christmas" was the continueing refrain, ignoreing my repeatedly pointing out that christmas is in december, and we still are not halfway through november.

am I just a miserable old git, or do I have a valid point ????????????
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on November 13, 2021, 07:34:10 PM
Quote from: class37025 on November 13, 2021, 07:24:27 PM
am I just a miserable old git?

Yes   :D

Quote from: class37025 on November 13, 2021, 07:24:27 PM
do I have a valid point ????????????

Yes  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 13, 2021, 07:46:43 PM
As John says - 'Yes' and 'Yes'. Although if it was up to me, Christmas shopping would begin on the first weekend in December - no earlier!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 13, 2021, 07:52:10 PM
THANK YOU....

when I were a lad, christmas was exciting, started early december, all a rush to get things done, carol services etc,

now, to be honest, by october I am FED UP with christmas.

bears no relationship to the real thing, grossly consumerised, and just an excuse to sell tons of tat that will probably go straight in the bin.

at least I now know it is not just me being a grumpy old git for no reason, I DO HAVE A VALID REASON  :thumbsup:

oh for the days of my [innocent] youth.

and an expanding list of those who are, or are not, my friends  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on November 13, 2021, 07:54:18 PM
Quote from: class37025 on November 13, 2021, 01:16:16 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on November 12, 2021, 05:24:06 PM
Quote from: class37025 on November 12, 2021, 05:16:37 PM
seconded  :thumbsup:

:smackedface:

You just can't get the staff.

sorry, must have missed the e-mail advising me that I'd be elected to the chair, having been sat in/on it for so long.

not sure I am happy about it, seems we are getting to like politics, the one at the top has a chair, the rest sit on the step / benches.

I move for an equal quality of seating for all members !

Call it 'length of service' status if you will, not a case of the 'one at the top', just 'the one that's been on it longest'.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 13, 2021, 07:57:34 PM
is it not a great reflection on this superb forum that even on the 'angry thread' we can have such a laugh ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on November 13, 2021, 08:03:17 PM
If I didn't laugh at some of the things that made me angry, quite frankly I'd probably have been arrested a few times by now.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on November 13, 2021, 08:26:51 PM
Quote from: class37025 on November 13, 2021, 07:52:10 PM

when I were a lad, christmas was exciting, started early december, all a rush to get things done, carol services etc,

now, to be honest, by october I am FED UP with christmas.

You need to watch the film "Love Actually" with Hugh Grant  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 14, 2021, 02:38:02 PM
I DO NOT BELIEVE IT  :censored:

our youngest daughter put a home shopping order to Sainsbury's, two of her sons are at present isolating due to positive covid tests, so she couldn't do a shop herself.

what is the problem you say ?

one of the items she ordered was cat food.

apparently out of stock, so a replacement supplied


CAPRI SUN  :censored:
what cretin thought that packets of orange juice was a replacement for cat food ?

needless to say she couldn't get any reply from them, and I don't see either her, or any of her friends, using Sainsburys again.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on November 14, 2021, 02:58:32 PM
It's a well known fact that cats don't like the smell of orange although 1 of mine does but she's weird.

Mine generally prefer the lemon flavour Capri-sun though so why on earth would Sainsburys put orange flavour in?   ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 16, 2021, 10:10:37 AM
Can someone inform the  :censored: living in this area that Firework night was 5th November and not something for the entire month? :veryangry2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 16, 2021, 10:25:51 AM
Mick @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264),

there is one upside of this,

my next door neighbour is a keen gardener and over the last month or so HB and I have managed to collect quite a pile of wooden sticks, usually about 3 ft long and around 1/2 inch square, on our walks, which have been given to her to use as stakes for her plants  :D

mind you, one was 3 ft long and around 3/4 inch square, would have done anyone it hit when it landed no good at all, but of course the cretins don't think of where their debris will land, or what injury or damage it could do.

they just like the bangs ......

mind you, I used to like the bangs as well, Browning 9mm, Sterling 9mm, Lee Enfield .303.

perhaps I should renew my enjoyment of said things  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on November 16, 2021, 10:36:57 AM
Quote from: class37025 on November 16, 2021, 10:25:51 AM
... the cretins don't think of where their debris will land, or what injury or damage it could do.

I remember being impressed, as a child, when one of our rockets fell back onto next-door's roof. It turned out that we'd done much better than that and they found it in the fireplace the next morning!

It does worry me how many places have plastic roofed conservatories nowadays.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 16, 2021, 11:14:58 AM
Many years ago myself, eldest Sis and her bloke went to a firework display at the Blists Hill Museum.
Part way through the evening she was struck by a burning piece of firework 1" below her left eye which left a circular burn mark.
Luckily there was a St.Johns Ambulance First Aid station on site, but that 1 inch higher and she could have lost the sight in her left eye.
I've hated fireworks ever since and give a monthly donation to St. Johns
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on November 16, 2021, 11:41:55 PM
No backyard fireworks here, banned since the nineteen eighties.  :)

We don't celebrate Guy Fawkes anyway.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on November 17, 2021, 11:33:55 AM
Quote from: stevewalker on November 16, 2021, 10:36:57 AM
Quote from: class37025 on November 16, 2021, 10:25:51 AM
... the cretins don't think of where their debris will land, or what injury or damage it could do.

I remember being impressed, as a child, when one of our rockets fell back onto next-door's roof. It turned out that we'd done much better than that and they found it in the fireplace the next morning!

It does worry me how many places have plastic roofed conservatories nowadays.
My neighbour has more worries than that... at thatched roof...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 18, 2021, 11:20:54 AM
Had letter from BT a couple of days ago asking if I wanted Ultrafast broadband giving speeds of up to 25 times faster than my current package, which has a minimum guaranteed of 37MB/s.
Therefore 925 MB/s!! (Yeah - right ::))
Ran a speed measure this morning before I called to see what the extra cost is and I was getting just  23.7MB/s against my minimum of 37.
The young lady told me the extra cost would be £55 per month with minimum guaranteed speed of 150MB/s. I very politely told her where she could put that and requested the 'Speed' department.
The guy there said I was getting 66MB/s and sent me a link to check for myself.
What a shock - I was getting the 23.7MB/s I quoted above. :D
Upshot - engineer coming tomorrow afternoon to see whassup.
If it wasn't for BT Sport for the MotoGP and my current package not expiring until next year I'd almost certainly find another ISP >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on November 18, 2021, 01:40:20 PM
Unless you were changing to Virgin, any other ISP is almost certainly (there are a very few, city centre exceptions) using the the same BT OpenReach lines.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on November 18, 2021, 02:16:37 PM
Quote from: stevewalker on November 18, 2021, 01:40:20 PM
Unless you were changing to Virgin, any other ISP is almost certainly (there are a very few, city centre exceptions) using the the same BT OpenReach lines.

Steve,

Was just going to say the same thing, the 'last 1/2 mile' is still over BT installed copper wires from your nearest Green box, unless you're on a Cable product when it'll more than likely be Fibre to the house.

So when BT say 'Fibre Broadband' it's technically not quite true, yes the backbone and major trunks to their exchanges are Fibre, but as I said, the little bit from your house to the Green Box is still a twisted pair of copper wire owned by BT.

Cheers

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on November 18, 2021, 04:26:53 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on November 16, 2021, 10:10:37 AM
Can someone inform the  :censored: living in this area that Firework night was 5th November and not something for the entire month? :veryangry2:

It seems the Russians got the date wrong too ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 18, 2021, 05:31:49 PM
the Russians celebrate Guy Fawkes ?

you sure it wasn't a failed missile launch  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: chrism on November 18, 2021, 05:48:49 PM
Quote from: Calnefoxile on November 18, 2021, 02:16:37 PM
So when BT say 'Fibre Broadband' it's technically not quite true, yes the backbone and major trunks to their exchanges are Fibre, but as I said, the little bit from your house to the Green Box is still a twisted pair of copper wire owned by BT.

Not always, BT have been offering Fibre To The Premises, where it's available, for years - the best part of ten years, if my memory's correct.

Areas where it is available are rapidly increasing and I understand that they have a plan in progress to eventually have full fibre everywhere and drop the copper network completely. Obviously, that's a huge undertaking so it'll take some time to achieve.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on November 18, 2021, 06:03:04 PM
Yep, the telegraph pole outside my house is equipped with fibre, but I can't justify the extra cost when I'm getting 59Mbps through a pair of twisted copper wires.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on November 18, 2021, 06:04:30 PM
We live, to all intents and purposes, in the middle of nowhere. Our telephone cables are on a pole outside, and we recently got full fibre right into the property.

For the same price as our old copper broadband.

Both with BT, btw.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on November 19, 2021, 09:06:58 AM
Our telephone comes from the nearest Node, about half a mile away.. it spends most of it's time travelling 6 inches to a foot deep under the verge, when the farmer cut a new entrance to a field he cut the cable.
Only when it reaches our group of 3 houses does it appear out of the ground go up a pole then to each house.
they are starting to change houses in the area to digital phones which means when the power fails no phone... and...
Mobiles rarely work here..

Chances of Fibre internet... Not a lot, the underground cable is too poor...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on November 19, 2021, 09:27:10 AM
Quote from: The Q on November 19, 2021, 09:06:58 AM
Our telephone comes from the nearest Node, about half a mile away.. it spends most of it's time travelling 6 inches to a foot deep under the verge, when the farmer cut a new entrance to a field he cut the cable.
Only when it reaches our group of 3 houses does it appear out of the ground go up a pole then to each house.
they are starting to change houses in the area to digital phones which means when the power fails no phone... and...
Mobiles rarely work here..

Chances of Fibre internet... Not a lot, the underground cable is too poor...

We thought the same, but they laid fibre out to the poles down our road, don't forget the nationwide plan is to get everyone connected to high speed internet.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 19, 2021, 02:48:02 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on November 18, 2021, 11:20:54 AM
Had letter from BT a couple of days ago asking if I wanted Ultrafast broadband giving speeds of up to 25 times faster than my current package, which has a minimum guaranteed of 37MB/s.
Therefore 925 MB/s!! (Yeah - right ::))
Ran a speed measure this morning before I called to see what the extra cost is and I was getting just  23.7MB/s against my minimum of 37.
The young lady told me the extra cost would be £55 per month with minimum guaranteed speed of 150MB/s. I very politely told her where she could put that and requested the 'Speed' department.
The guy there said I was getting 66MB/s and sent me a link to check for myself.
What a shock - I was getting the 23.7MB/s I quoted above. :D
Upshot - engineer coming tomorrow afternoon to see whassup.
If it wasn't for BT Sport for the MotoGP and my current package not expiring until next year I'd almost certainly find another ISP >:(

Just to finish the tale off the engineer has been, removed the filter the BT Halo 2 engineer fitted ( ::)), took all sorts of readings and basically told me the wireless card in my old laptop just cannot take the speed the router is putting out. Suggestions from him to buy a tablet or a new laptop were met with a raspberry from me as, at the end of the day, I'm happy with speed of all other sites but this one, and Tank is working on that
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Railwaygun on November 21, 2021, 02:37:13 PM
If your lap&op has USB3 ( blue usually) so look at a USB GigaBit  Ethernet dongle?.

£11.99 Black Friday deal

https://www.amazon.co.uk/uni-Ethernet-Compatible-Notebook-Windows7/dp/B087QFQW6F/ref=sr_1_1_sspa? (https://www.amazon.co.uk/uni-Ethernet-Compatible-Notebook-Windows7/dp/B087QFQW6F/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?)

USB 2 dongles as well( 100 MBS only)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on November 21, 2021, 03:35:25 PM
That's what I so like about model railways... it's just a question of "here are two rails, make sure you send some DC voltage in the appropriate polarity", not "oh you have a 2011 controller with MRB (Model Railway Bus 1.0) and you want to run a 2016 train with MRB 2.1? You'll need to add a dongle which supports MRB 2.0 or later and upgrade your controller's OS and also your 2008 Universal Train Controller cable won't work with that, you'll need a High Fidelity Multiplexer Interface cable to actually connect it to the layout, but make sure it's made to the 2019 or later HFMI spec otherwise it may not work".
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 21, 2021, 03:44:45 PM
Quote from: railsquid on November 21, 2021, 03:35:25 PM
you'll need a High Fidelity Multiplexer Interface cable to actually connect it to the layout, but make sure it's made to the 2019 or later HFMI spec

Would two bits of thin wire and a choc-block do the same job?  ??? ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 21, 2021, 04:06:05 PM
Quote from: Railwaygun on November 21, 2021, 02:37:13 PM
If your lap&op has USB3 ( blue usually) so look at a USB GigaBit  Ethernet dongle?.

£11.99 Black Friday deal

https://www.amazon.co.uk/uni-Ethernet-Compatible-Notebook-Windows7/dp/B087QFQW6F/ref=sr_1_1_sspa? (https://www.amazon.co.uk/uni-Ethernet-Compatible-Notebook-Windows7/dp/B087QFQW6F/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?)

USB 2 dongles as well( 100 MBS only)

Nothing blue about my laptop :no: :angel:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 21, 2021, 04:15:48 PM
afraid I never got beyond red to red, black to black.....

and even that didn't help when SWMBO wanted a new light in the kitchen. ...
red to red - black to black, green/yellow to green/yellow ...

BANG

large hole and flash from consumer unit, phoned council ....

"ah, yes that happens a lot, leccies should use red tape to mark that one of the blacks is in fact red...

but they often don't.

we'll send someone round "
>:( :veryangry: :censored: :help:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on November 21, 2021, 04:45:20 PM
Or as most sparkys will say, red to red, yellow to yellow, blue to bits. When I did my apprenticeship you could get twin and earth with 2 red cores rather than a black and red (brown and blue these days) but I always preferred black and red so I knew which was the permanent live as opposed to the switch wire. I occasionally put red tape on the black but not always. Maybe I did the wiring in your house  :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 21, 2021, 04:54:14 PM
now I don't feel so bad about taking so much money off you  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on November 22, 2021, 11:16:36 PM
Trouble is I can no longer afford to buy brown (previously red) insulation tape as you've got all my money!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on November 23, 2021, 11:53:41 AM
SSE!!!!!!! They fitted a smart meter back in May as I was unable to read my meter   (which is not in my flat but in a locked room at the end of the building) despite having the smart meter fitted they were still estimating my usage, considerably over estimating at that. Just to add insult to injury they upped my direct debit to £177  which appears to be a standard industry ploy to try and force one to supply meter readings - average electricity usage in these flats is aout £50 per month. They are also taking an amount to "recover arrears" arising from their over estimations of usage over previous years.
After a lengthy phone call yesterday trying to get through the thick skull of a customer service person I now await a revised bill.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 23, 2021, 12:06:24 PM
Strewth! :o I'm currently paying £61 per month for dual power in my bungalow.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on November 23, 2021, 01:24:19 PM
Quotein my bungalow.
Is that because they ran out of bricks and had to bung a low roof on it, or was it a bungle that you still owe money on?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on November 23, 2021, 01:50:01 PM
 "they ran out of bricks and had to bung a low roof on it"

I was always told that PPPPPP ... :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 23, 2021, 02:32:06 PM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on November 23, 2021, 01:24:19 PM
Quotein my bungalow.
Is that because they ran out of bricks and had to bung a low roof on it

Strange that, 'cos the one next door attached to mine is the same :uneasy: :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: javlinfaw7 on November 23, 2021, 05:53:43 PM
Went for my flu jab yesterday ,wait 40 minutes in a queue ,maimly out side the building though the appointment was booked 4 weeks earlier, got to the reception desk to be told they had run out of flu vaccine. About 3 hrs before closing time they could not offer me a new appointment and advised me to phone todayfor a new .appointment. I could  still however still get my covid booster 40 minutes later that was done. Phoned today and was given next available appointment on 16/12/21.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on November 26, 2021, 12:43:35 AM
Noise at Chez Bealman.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/116/255-261121003414-1166091040.jpeg)

The house at the back of our place (which fronts onto a cul-de-sac) was ripped down at the start of the year, and the white thing constructed (doesn't look too bad).
But yesterday they started ripping out the existing pool. What a bloody noise! That's Chez Bealman on the right, so you can see how close it is. The vibration knocked pictures off walls!

Look at the bloody mess. I just hope it doesn't undermine the foundation of Chez Bealman.  :veryangry:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/116/255-261121003404-116604205.jpeg)

God only knows what that all cost  :confused1:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 26, 2021, 09:20:00 AM
Looks a decent build but I'd be concerned just how much of your rear garden is overlooked, especially from their upstairs window :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on November 26, 2021, 09:22:34 AM
What a mess I hope it is cleared up soon and doesnt cause any problems to Chez Bealman ,  What are they actualy trying to do .?
As Newport Nobby said they have a good view from their upstairs window ,.
No nude sunbathing any more now .
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on November 26, 2021, 09:23:54 AM
Put a new pool in
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 26, 2021, 12:03:54 PM
You never know, the new neighbours might be nice and like n gauge.  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Graham on November 26, 2021, 10:25:32 PM
hopefully they dont dig the hole too much closer to your fence or you may face subsidence issues. Our neighbour has just done the same thing and we how have a 2 story house overlooking our back garden. Not happy, but can't do anything about it under the local planning rules.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on November 26, 2021, 11:12:50 PM
Yeah, when we first saw the plans we put in an official complaint, and the plans were withdrawn. Thought we'd won that one.

However, six months later they were there again and council approved them. Subsidence is indeed a worry, as this is all fill here - the original course of the creek is under their property and ours!  :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: chrism on November 27, 2021, 06:28:23 AM
Quote from: Bealman on November 26, 2021, 12:43:35 AM
But yesterday they started ripping out the existing pool. What a bloody noise! That's Chez Bealman on the right, so you can see how close it is. The vibration knocked pictures off walls!

Look at the bloody mess. I just hope it doesn't undermine the foundation of Chez Bealman.  :veryangry:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/116/255-261121003404-116604205.jpeg)


Wouldn't they have found it easier if they'd taken the water out first?

;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on November 27, 2021, 06:33:55 AM
It's actually been raining a lot here lately. Apparently we're supposed to be going to have a wet summer. That's ok with me.... beats bushfires any day.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on November 30, 2021, 11:47:33 AM
Evidently I no longer exist.
Applied to get a new job at another school, interview fine and job offer received, great.
We just need 3 acceptable forms of ID for our records and DBS check.
Passport -  no, it expired 20 years ago.
Photo driving license - no, haven't moved house for over 20 years so not needed to update it so still have paper license.
2 x bank statements/utility bills dated within last 3 months - no, I utilise paperless as we are all encouraged to do.
Birth certificate - yes but not sure how that is proof of ID.
Letter from HMRC to confirm NI number - yes but not dated within last 3 months.

Oh, and my previous 2 employers still haven't responded to the references sent a month ago.

What is even more frustrating is the person employing me at the school is someone I've worked with for the last 4 years at my previous school!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 30, 2021, 12:32:21 PM
I hope you get things sorted PDQ.

Sometimes 'red tape' is just laughable. I recently had to prove that I was in receipt of a UK Pension, so I sent a copy of a letter I had from the UK Pensions people. It turned out that that was not acceptable as it was more than 12 months old. As I pointed out to them, surely if I was old enough over 12 months ago to receive the UK Pension, I was now, over twelve months later, still old enough! "No", came the reply, "we have to have something more recent". So I then had to telephone the UK Pension people and request a new letter. "No problem", says the lady I spoke to, "we get this all the time from people living in Ireland".  ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on December 01, 2021, 09:33:13 AM
My sister is a Senior civil Servant as was Dad.. She had great difficulty getting a passport because she was born in BMH Dhekeila...The idiots at passport issuing kept saying that British Military Hospital Dhekeila was in Cyprus so she was a Cypriot..

Eventually she got a passport.. Which ironically was used to get to her sons wedding.... In Cyprus.

I had similar problems to TheBrighton some time ago... I eventually solved it by getting a document signed by a Justice of the Peace to say I was, who I said I was.. Luckily there was a JP member of the Sailing club.. Sadly she's no longer with us, so I don't know what I'd do now..
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on December 01, 2021, 02:31:28 PM
One of my pals went to draw some cash out of his building society. He was asked for ID but the only thing he had with his name and address on was his membership card for the Dennis the Menace Fan Club. They accepted it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on December 01, 2021, 03:00:26 PM
Quote from: Malc on December 01, 2021, 02:31:28 PM
One of my pals went to draw some cash out of his building society. He was asked for ID but the only thing he had with his name and address on was his membership card for the Dennis the Menace Fan Club. They accepted it.

Grrr.......

;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on December 01, 2021, 03:02:40 PM
Is that the sound of you gnashing your teeth?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on December 01, 2021, 11:24:30 PM
Quote from: Malc on December 01, 2021, 02:31:28 PM
One of my pals went to draw some cash out of his building society. He was asked for ID but the only thing he had with his name and address on was his membership card for the Dennis the Menace Fan Club. They accepted it.

Our recycling centre was asking for ID several months ago. The only thing I had with me was my CAMRA (https://camra.org.uk/) membership card. Eventually 1 of the guys worked out it had nothing to do with photography and let me in  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on December 07, 2021, 05:33:57 PM
Back at the beginning of August, we put in an application for renewing my middle son's passport, as he was due to go away in November. Photo accepted by the automated system, whereas both of his brothers' and mine were flagged as not acceptable, but turned out fine when I overrode them.

In September, they asked for confirmation of his identity from someone independent (we used a teacher). Why? We don't know, as that had already been done for his previous passport and he was still very clearly the same person as in the old photo.

In November (after he should have gone away on a school History trip - fortunately cancelled and refunded), they rejected his photo, demanded more money (as he'd turned 16 and now needed to pay for an adult passport) and sent a form for him to sign.

Photo sent electronically, form signed, scanned and emailed back, but we can only pay the difference by cheque (we have no book) or by phone (there is no online system for topping up an existing payment). Called on the 27th of November, person could not take payment and, those that could, were not answering their attempts to transfer the call, so I was promised a call back and advised that it should be within 2 working days, but could be a maximum of 5.

9 days later, still no call, so I rang again. 40 minutes on hold after being transferred to the appropriate department, before I gave up. Rang again this morning, 20 minutes on hold, then call cut out. Left work to call from outside. Gave up after being on hold, after transfer, for an hour. Left work early to come home and put the phone on speaker, so I did not have to sit with it clamped to my head for another hour. Only 20 minutes on hold - before the person gave up trying to transfer me.

Today was the last day for paying before they automatically cancel the application and keep my money - although they have made a note on the system and promised me another call back, but whether that will work I don't know.

I have now lost around three times the value of the extra payment to them (which was only caused by their initial delay pushing the processing after his birthday), in lost work hours and it's still going on!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Graham on December 09, 2021, 08:26:51 AM
Just found out I am +ve, NOT HAPPY JAN, just wish I could work out where or whom I got it from.
Luckily SWMBO is still -ve and lets hope she stays that way or it off with Christmas.
Maybe I should also post in the Happy Thread cause the vaccine has really worked its magic for me. Only feels like a bad cold.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on December 09, 2021, 08:39:54 AM
Oh dear.

Stay safe, keep your fluids up.

Best wishes.

M.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: JBQFC on December 09, 2021, 05:21:09 PM
well yesterday the wife's car decided to go caput took it to the garage needs a new radiator and some other bits will cots £600 so not to bad
but cannot get one till Tuesday so Clare has to hire a car this was arranged last night she went to pick it up this morning now Clare walks with crutch
she walks in explains why she is there for the chap to turn around and say are you safe to dive a car  :censored: :censored: thankfully one of his colleagues hears this and swiftly takes over and apologises before Clare could tell him what she thought of that comment any way he gave her a bit of a discount and hopefully the chap got a good telling off 

John
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on December 09, 2021, 07:34:39 PM
That is diabolical!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: grumbeast on December 10, 2021, 03:05:33 PM
Quote from: JBQFC on December 09, 2021, 05:21:09 PM
well yesterday the wife's car decided to go caput took it to the garage needs a new radiator and some other bits will cots £600 so not to bad
but cannot get one till Tuesday so Clare has to hire a car this was arranged last night she went to pick it up this morning now Clare walks with crutch
she walks in explains why she is there for the chap to turn around and say are you safe to dive a car  :censored: :censored: thankfully one of his colleagues hears this and swiftly takes over and apologises before Clare could tell him what she thought of that comment any way he gave her a bit of a discount and hopefully the chap got a good telling off 

John

Glad the idiot was told off and his colleague had a clue, my wife has CP and can't drive but has been stopped before now by Police for 'Walking' as they thought she was drunk, its so humiliating and there's very rarely an apology. 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on December 10, 2021, 03:37:51 PM
Ideally I'd like a spitting feathers thread but the angry one will have to do.
You may recall a few weeks back I ended up quitting my exam invigilator job when an admin assistant took context out of the equation and decided me quoting Kenny Everett's "round them up, put them in a field and bomb them" meant I was a legitimate threat to the safety and wellbeing of the pupils as I condoned mass murder and had me suspended.
You may also recall I was immediately offered an identical role at another school but my previous school hadn't bothered replying to a reference request. Well they have now and aren't they sly little buggers.
They were very selective in what questions they answered and declined to answer any of the safeguarding ones so, of course, by omitting them covered themselves as they have said nothing but by not answering have implied there was an issue even if it was an imaginary one in someone's delusional brain.
Result - job offer withdrawn.
Aaaargh!!!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 10, 2021, 03:41:53 PM
Quote from: grumbeast on December 10, 2021, 03:05:33 PM
Quote from: JBQFC on December 09, 2021, 05:21:09 PM
well yesterday the wife's car decided to go caput took it to the garage needs a new radiator and some other bits will cots £600 so not to bad
but cannot get one till Tuesday so Clare has to hire a car this was arranged last night she went to pick it up this morning now Clare walks with crutch
she walks in explains why she is there for the chap to turn around and say are you safe to dive a car  :censored: :censored: thankfully one of his colleagues hears this and swiftly takes over and apologises before Clare could tell him what she thought of that comment any way he gave her a bit of a discount and hopefully the chap got a good telling off 

John

Glad the idiot was told off and his colleague had a clue, my wife has CP and can't drive but has been stopped before now by Police for 'Walking' as they thought she was drunk, its so humiliating and there's very rarely an apology.

you have police walking in your area, or did you mean they drive past in their BMW 4x4, see your wife weaving along the pavement and decided she is an easier target than some scrote with a knife mugging someone, and stop. :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: grumbeast on December 10, 2021, 03:58:22 PM
Quote from: class37025 on December 10, 2021, 03:41:53 PM

you have police walking in your area, or did you mean they drive past in their BMW 4x4, see your wife weaving along the pavement and decided she is an easier target than some scrote with a knife mugging someone, and stop. :veryangry:

No they were driving, but in our case it was a huge Ford cruiser of some kind.  I still can't believe there is  still so much discrimination, our worst one is being told by a University that she was not being considered for a position because of their concern over her health care costs (of which there wouldn't have been any anyway. its a stable condition).   Even as her husband I wouldn't have believed someone could say that if I hadn't been in the room when she got the phone call... of course there was no proof, it being just a call.  I still can't believe how much disability discrimination there is, you put in a ramp instead of stairs and *boom* your done, check that box off, people with disabilities taken care of.  All of the focus lately on various marginalised and disenfranchised groups is great (it really is, I'm not  being ironic) but I feel society in general really doesn't give a damn about people with disabilities, there seems to be a sense that having some toothless, ineffective and rarely applied legislation means there's no longer any discrimination. Sorry rant over (for now anyway!)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 10, 2021, 04:26:41 PM
Quote from: thebrighton on December 10, 2021, 03:37:51 PM
Ideally I'd like a spitting feathers thread but the angry one will have to do.
You may recall a few weeks back I ended up quitting my exam invigilator job when an admin assistant took context out of the equation and decided me quoting Kenny Everett's "round them up, put them in a field and bomb them" meant I was a legitimate threat to the safety and wellbeing of the pupils as I condoned mass murder and had me suspended.
You may also recall I was immediately offered an identical role at another school but my previous school hadn't bothered replying to a reference request. Well they have now and aren't they sly little buggers.
They were very selective in what questions they answered and declined to answer any of the safeguarding ones so, of course, by omitting them covered themselves as they have said nothing but by not answering have implied there was an issue even if it was an imaginary one in someone's delusional brain.
Result - job offer withdrawn.
Aaaargh!!!!!

and of course, you have no right of response.

as I understand it, an employer does not have to give a reference, but cannot give a bad reference nudge - nudge - wink - wink.

they can even go as minimal as 'joined us xx/xx/xxxx - left xx/xx/xxxx'.
which would of course be taken as 'don't employ this  :censored:, but gives you nothing to contest, as if they said 'he did yyyy' you could refute this, and supply evidence in support.

check list :
cushion, the naughty step is bare wood
thermos , coffee - NATO
very large bag of - Jaffa cakes, assorted types, custard creams, digestives, and a book to read while on indefinite suspension  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on December 10, 2021, 04:36:04 PM
Quote from: class37025 on December 10, 2021, 04:26:41 PM

and of course, you have no right of response.

as I understand it, an employer does not have to give a reference, but cannot give a bad reference nudge - nudge - wink - wink.

they can even go as minimal as 'joined us xx/xx/xxxx - left xx/xx/xxxx'.
which would of course be taken as 'don't employ this  :censored:, but gives you nothing to contest, as if they said 'he did yyyy' you could refute this, and supply evidence in support.


Indeed, they only have the ravings of an offended admin assistant making things up but have decided to go with her ramblings but have legally done nothing wrong with the content of their reference. This will no doubt come up again and again with future references so I have requested a meeting with the senior head and have had a chat with a solicitor mate and a letter from him will follow if they don't realise just how ridiculous they are being.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 10, 2021, 04:47:27 PM
GOOD FOR YOU.

and remember...

Illegitimae non Carborundum

or to put it anglo saxon

don't let the  :censored: grind you down  :smiley-laughing: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on December 10, 2021, 04:50:30 PM
Quote from: class37025 on December 10, 2021, 04:47:27 PM
Carborundum

I'm glad you translated it as I thought it was a type of pasta  :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on December 10, 2021, 04:54:56 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on December 10, 2021, 04:50:30 PM
Quote from: class37025 on December 10, 2021, 04:47:27 PM
Carborundum

I'm glad you translated it as I thought it was a type of pasta  :P

Plonka, you're thinking of Fusilier.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on December 10, 2021, 05:02:18 PM
Isn't that an infection of the hearing organs?  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 10, 2021, 05:26:51 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on December 10, 2021, 04:50:30 PM
Quote from: class37025 on December 10, 2021, 04:47:27 PM
Carborundum

I'm glad you translated it as I thought it was a type of pasta  :P

what beer would go with that then  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: JBQFC on December 10, 2021, 08:05:20 PM
Quote from: grumbeast on December 10, 2021, 03:05:33 PM
Quote from: JBQFC on December 09, 2021, 05:21:09 PM
well yesterday the wife's car decided to go caput took it to the garage needs a new radiator and some other bits will cots £600 so not to bad
but cannot get one till Tuesday so Clare has to hire a car this was arranged last night she went to pick it up this morning now Clare walks with crutch
she walks in explains why she is there for the chap to turn around and say are you safe to dive a car  :censored: :censored: thankfully one of his colleagues hears this and swiftly takes over and apologises before Clare could tell him what she thought of that comment any way he gave her a bit of a discount and hopefully the chap got a good telling off 

John


Glad the idiot was told off and his colleague had a clue, my wife has CP and can't drive but has been stopped before now by Police for 'Walking' as they thought she was drunk, its so humiliating and there's very rarely an apology.

I have a friend with CP and in a wheelchair some of the time some of the comments she gets are unbelievable once a woman said to her that  it must be great to be pushed around all day  :veryangry:
her and hubby now have a good set of witty and sarcastic reply's

John
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 10, 2021, 08:47:03 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on December 10, 2021, 05:02:18 PM
Isn't that an infection of the hearing organs?  :hmmm:

not an infection, just a messy eater who got pasta in their ear  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 22, 2021, 10:03:10 PM
Did the last grocery shopping before Christmas at Tesco today. 2 staff stood just inside the entrance who I wrongly assumed might be there to enforce mask wearing. No. Loads of  :censored: wandering around the store with no mask, some wearing it below their nose level and some even only putting a mask on when they got to the till :confused2:. My 88 year old mother who pulls no punches asked a group of teens whether they knew what mandatory meant and they just replied "Huh?  :censored: off" A few others in the store were wearing lanyards with a blue card stating something but I didn't want to get close enough to read it and just assumed it was some sort of exemption.
I did ask to see the store manager but was told he was unavailable. Probably planning a party for Friday night ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on December 22, 2021, 10:09:39 PM
I was packing my shopping bag having paid and some idiot was only keen to barge into me stretch over and grab the basket as none were available at the door.. i saidcexcuse me, politely asked him.to stop and received an abusive comment. I gave a filthy look and asked if he had manners and seconds later same idiot nearly knocked an elderly lady keen to move on . Well at least the poor checkout manager received the worst of his verbals and she asked said idiot to leave. Good on her
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on December 22, 2021, 10:36:26 PM
a :censored:

Just had the self-same Tesco experience at Skegness. Most shoppers under 40, perhaps 35% not wearing masks, lots of children wandering about away from parents, groups of four and even five clustering and blocking aisles,  no sign or sound of mandatory mask instruction, no Security in sight, I seemed to be the only one socially distancing - when I could - and on entering and leaving I witnessed nobody using the gel and trolley spray supplied at the door.

All in all, a diabolical display by the British public  - who will no doubt soon object to new strictures or lockdown being imposed to restrict their 'freedoms'.

Thankfully I'm done shopping until the New Year and justbhope tonight's excursion will not lead to me passing some infection to my immune-compromised wife.

So Merry Christmas to one and all. (unless you were in Tesco Skegness tonight.)

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on December 22, 2021, 10:56:03 PM
Haven't been into a supermarket in 22 months. If we can't get it delivered, we do without.

Now you know why.

:veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on December 22, 2021, 11:20:36 PM
Every time there's a report on Japanese TV about the coronavirus situation in Britain, at some point they inevitably cut to a street scene showing masses of people mainly not wearing masks...

(If anyone's feeling bored, check out e.g. this live video feed (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpdO5Kq3o7Y) of central Tokyo and try and spot anyone *not* wearing a mask, despite approximately 0% actual legal mandates).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on December 22, 2021, 11:21:43 PM
Delivery slots booked up so had to go or starve and chose my usual late night time of 8:00pm to set off on the 20 minute drive to Tesco .(and I do this as infrequently as possible). It's usually very very quiet and although I expected it to be busier than usual for the time (online shows how busy each hour) I was not prepared for the widespread disregard of rules, common sense, and social responsibility. This was unusual to say the least, and with over 106,000 new cases reported for the last recorded 24 hour period, the actions of many seemed downright insane.

History will not lay the blame for the ultimate cost of Covid in lives lost or adversely affected on politicians or whatever scapegoat the masses may choose. No. History will blame the masses. Or at least that proportion of the masses who evidently have cardboard between their ears.

I shall go to bed now and do a Lateral Flow Test twice daily for a week, and hope.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on December 22, 2021, 11:43:19 PM
The roads have been very busy this week and supermarkets rammed. I went in Wickes in Alton today and there's an Aldi next door. I saw most people going in and coming out without masks. In Wickes most customers wore masks but most staff didn't.
I went in an ASDA somewhere yesterday, I think it was near Chichester, and around 50% wore masks. Luckily I only wanted to buy some pants so it was a quick in, self checkout then get out. I test on Thursdays and Sundays so tomorrow will tell me whether I need to throw away my pants or not. I may get away with just washing them at a high temperature  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on December 23, 2021, 01:12:29 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on December 22, 2021, 11:43:19 PM
I went in an ASDA somewhere yesterday, I think it was near Chichester, and around 50% wore masks. Luckily I only wanted to buy some pants so it was a quick in, self checkout then get out. I test on Thursdays and Sundays so tomorrow will tell me whether I need to throw away my pants or not. I may get away with just washing them at a high temperature  :thumbsup:

Did you not put a mask on your pants then? I hope they test negative  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on December 23, 2021, 01:16:56 AM
I didn't have a mask when I went in.

I did when I came out though.

(https://www.theolivepress.es/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Pants.jpg?width=1200&enable=upscale)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 23, 2021, 07:23:34 AM
Masks mandatory in indoor venues again in NSW from midnight tonight.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on December 23, 2021, 07:55:04 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on December 23, 2021, 01:16:56 AM
I didn't have a mask when I went in.

I did when I came out though.


Oh dear John! Those pants are no good as a mask at all. :no:

Didn't you know that it has been scientifically proven  ;) that only underpants with a reinforced double-gusset give effective protection against all perils.?
:hmmm:

:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on December 23, 2021, 08:13:25 AM
Quote from: Bealman on December 23, 2021, 07:23:34 AM
Masks mandatory in indoor venues again in NSW from midnight tonight.

What about pants?

Anyway looks like the Omicron genie has finally managed to skip quarantine in the Osaka/Kyoto area, I suppose it had to somewhere, I just hope it doesn't much up the rest of the school year too much...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on December 23, 2021, 09:11:56 AM
Quote from: daffy on December 23, 2021, 07:55:04 AM
Oh dear John! Those pants are no good as a mask at all. :no:

Didn't you know that it has been scientifically proven  ;) that only underpants with a reinforced double-gusset give effective protection against all perils.?
:hmmm:

:D

Ah yes, I've done a bit of research and found that you are absolutely correct.

(https://images.cubebik.com/2020/08/1472437755-07082020-095355-CubeBik-Image.jpg)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 23, 2021, 09:50:59 AM
Quote from: emjaybee on December 22, 2021, 10:56:03 PM
Haven't been into a supermarket in 22 months. If we can't get it delivered, we do without.

Now you know why.

:veryangry:

One of the issues with our Tesco is the aisles are full of staff picking stock for delivery to those stay at homers and with their damn great carts it's very difficult to keep a social distance, especially when they come and park next to you and reach across you or leave their cart parked across the aisle. I have to say some are as fragrant as some folks at model railway shows, too :sick2: Then they see a particular friend so stop for a natter thus blocking the aisle completely and then wonder why they get rammed by an irate NPN and his trolley. I say unto you "Get thee hence and do thine own shopping providing thou hast deodorant used." It would ease the problem for those of us who have to deal with homo denso :P ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on December 23, 2021, 10:09:23 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 23, 2021, 09:50:59 AM
Quote from: emjaybee on December 22, 2021, 10:56:03 PM
Haven't been into a supermarket in 22 months. If we can't get it delivered, we do without.

Now you know why.

:veryangry:

One of the issues with our Tesco is the aisles are full of staff picking stock for delivery to those stay at homers and with their damn great carts it's very difficult to keep a social distance, especially when they come and park next to you and reach across you or leave their cart parked across the aisle. I have to say some are as fragrant as some folks at model railway shows, too :sick2: Then they see a particular friend so stop for a natter thus blocking the aisle completely and then wonder why they get rammed by an irate NPN and his trolley. I say unto you "Get thee hence and do thine own shopping providing thou hast deodorant used." It would ease the problem for those of us who have to deal with homo denso :P ;)

Sorry Mick, no can do. With the wife's Epilepsy prescription lowering her immune system, and her chronic respiratory condition, and the advice from her GP and Consultant to "Not get it, even with three jabs", I'm afraid we carry on.

The only consolation I can give you is that it's unlikely to be our shopping that's causing you grief.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 23, 2021, 10:11:18 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on December 23, 2021, 01:16:56 AM
(https://www.theolivepress.es/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Pants.jpg?width=1200&enable=upscale)

That's the severest wedgie I've ever seen!  :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on December 23, 2021, 10:51:25 AM
Quote from: emjaybee on December 23, 2021, 10:09:23 AM
Quote from: emjaybee on December 22, 2021, 10:56:03 PM
Haven't been into a supermarket in 22 months. If we can't get it delivered, we do without.

Now you know why.

:veryangry:

Sorry Mick, no can do. With the wife's Epilepsy prescription lowering her immune system, and her chronic respiratory condition, and the advice from her GP and Consultant to "Not get it, even with three jabs", I'm afraid we carry on.

The only consolation I can give you is that it's unlikely to be our shopping that's causing you grief.

Hopefully your wife will have received the letter my wife had this week from the NHS, as she too has a Consultant who gave her the self same care instruction due to her condition. The letter points out that she is now eligible to receive an 'at home' PCR test kit that, should she ever develop covid symptoms (or I assume get a positive LFT result), she can use herself and pass the result online to the NHS who will be back to her within 24 hours with a treatment plan. I think this will be for the soonest administration, at home, of the latest drugs to combat any Covid infection.

The test kit should arrive here today, and hopefully she will never have reason to use it.

Best wishes to you both. :thumbsup:



Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on December 23, 2021, 12:53:53 PM
My wife received one of those letters as well.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on December 23, 2021, 04:16:19 PM
I've just had a text to book my 4th jab, so have done so for the first week of January.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 23, 2021, 04:37:08 PM
Quote from: Malc on December 23, 2021, 04:16:19 PM
I've just had a text to book my 4th jab, so have done so for the first week of January.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/117/264-231221163537-1175801433.jpeg)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on December 23, 2021, 04:50:16 PM
Wonder where you got that one from, Mick?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on December 23, 2021, 05:10:56 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 23, 2021, 04:37:08 PM
Quote from: Malc on December 23, 2021, 04:16:19 PM
I've just had a text to book my 4th jab, so have done so for the first week of January.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/117/264-231221163537-1175801433.jpeg)

Here's a wish that none of us are 'toast' before the freebie gets awarded.  :o Will there be a choice of freebie cos I don't eat bread? :hmmm:

I suspect a few jabs (or maybe pills) a year could become the norm to keep this and other Sars variants at bay for our lifetimes.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 23, 2021, 09:11:59 PM
Quote from: Malc on December 23, 2021, 04:50:16 PM
Wonder where you got that one from, Mick?

It was you, Malc, but you also gave me the perfect opportunity to use it :D
I'd never even heard there was a 4th jab :dunce:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Nbodger on December 23, 2021, 09:19:41 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 23, 2021, 09:11:59 PM
Quote from: Malc on December 23, 2021, 04:50:16 PM
Wonder where you got that one from, Mick?

It was you, Malc, but you also gave me the perfect opportunity to use it :D
I'd never even heard there was a 4th jab :dunce:

Mick,
The immune suppressed have had three primary jabs and are due a booster ie 4th Jab, mine is due soon.

You see it's only the special ones  :)

Mike H
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on December 24, 2021, 12:13:27 AM
Quote from: Nbodger on December 23, 2021, 09:19:41 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 23, 2021, 09:11:59 PM
Quote from: Malc on December 23, 2021, 04:50:16 PM
Wonder where you got that one from, Mick?

It was you, Malc, but you also gave me the perfect opportunity to use it :D
I'd never even heard there was a 4th jab :dunce:

Mick,
The immune suppressed have had three primary jabs and are due a booster ie 4th Jab, mine is due soon.

You see it's only the special ones  :)

Mike H

Don't worry, we'd already kinda figured you were special needs.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 29, 2021, 12:14:48 PM
Been invited to a meal at youngest sister's on 2nd Jan so, having been exhorted by all to get tested, I tried today to get a pack of Lateral Flow Tests.
Hah! Rocking horse poo would be easier to find at pharmacies ::)
Have ordered some for delivery but the post is all over the place at present.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 30, 2021, 12:05:07 AM
Might be easier to skip the dinner date  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on December 30, 2021, 01:19:50 AM
I must learn to stop skimming threads while being distracted by a small child... The words my brain picked up on were:

Quote from: Newportnobby on December 29, 2021, 12:14:48 PM
Hah! Rocking horse poo ... is all over the place at present.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on December 31, 2021, 05:06:18 PM
already got some mindless moron letting off fireworks to celebrate the new year  :hmmm:  :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on December 31, 2021, 05:21:55 PM
Maybe it's a new initiative by the NHS, sending out individual Covid LFT kits via rocket assisted airmail to those off to celebrate. Delivery is random of course, but then so is infection so that's fine.

Happy New Year. :pint:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 31, 2021, 11:20:09 PM
Apparently some clowns were letting off fireworks at midnight near Chez Bealman, according to Mrs Bealman.

I didn't hear a thing - I was catching big zzzz from 9pm!

Happy New Year!  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on January 01, 2022, 12:22:57 AM
Captain's log, stardate 11am 1st January 2022:

Supermarket. Hot cross buns on shelves. :veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Platy767 on January 01, 2022, 01:49:34 AM
On the shelves last week in the big smoke.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on January 01, 2022, 04:26:34 AM
Quote from: Bealman on January 01, 2022, 12:22:57 AM
Captain's log, stardate 11am 1st January 2022:

Supermarket. Hot cross buns on shelves. :veryangry: :veryangry:

Well you wouldn't want them on the  floor, would you?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on January 01, 2022, 05:28:16 AM
Best place for em, I reckon  :sick2:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: chrism on January 01, 2022, 06:19:40 AM
Quote from: Bealman on January 01, 2022, 12:22:57 AM
Supermarket. Hot cross buns on shelves. :veryangry: :veryangry:

Our local Tesco has 'em on the shelves pretty well all year round.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on January 01, 2022, 06:50:58 AM
Actually, this place probably does too, it's just that I don't normally notice.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Graham on January 01, 2022, 07:32:06 AM
saw them on the shelves day after boxing day at our local IGA, thought to self, ignore, ignore, ignore.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: exmouthcraig on January 01, 2022, 07:38:50 AM
Christmas aisles in our local Tesco were cleared on Dec 27th and staff were busy loading them with...............

Yep

Valentine's gifts and cards on one side

And

EASTER EGGS on the other

:smackedface:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 01, 2022, 09:24:20 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 29, 2021, 12:14:48 PM
Been invited to a meal at youngest sister's on 2nd Jan so, having been exhorted by all to get tested, I tried today to get a pack of Lateral Flow Tests.
Hah! Rocking horse poo would be easier to find at pharmacies ::)
Have ordered some for delivery but the post is all over the place at present.

Got my pack in the post yesterday. For all the conspiracy theorists on the forum, it's made in China.
Could it be the swabs are dosed with Sarin? :worried:
Could over enthusiastic use puncture my one remaining brain cell? :uneasy:
How did these packs arrive in the UK so quickly yet our models are held in transit somewhere?:hmmm:

It's all moot anyway (whatever 'moot is') as the dinner has been deferred owing to Mum not feeling well.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on January 01, 2022, 11:40:05 AM
Hope your mum has not succumbed to the dreaded, Mick.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 01, 2022, 12:02:18 PM
Quote from: Malc on January 01, 2022, 11:40:05 AM
Hope your mum has not succumbed to the dreaded, Mick.

@Malc (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=497) No covid, Malc. She's been coughing since June last year and is waiting to be called into hospital for an ECG but hospitals are not letting folks in at present ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on January 01, 2022, 12:03:30 PM
Mick might be Mick, but I think it is a bit unfair to call him "dreaded".  :) ('Shirley', yes.  ;D)
@Malc (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=497)

Hope it is nothing much wrong with your Mum Mick.
@Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)

Addit: You just beat me with your previous reply Mick.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 01, 2022, 04:26:10 PM
fireworks still going off at 01:15 this morning,

so on behalf of all those who had an 06:00 or 07:00 start at work this morning [ and over the years I've had many of those ] thank you very much you selfish  :censored:

luckily now I am retired I can sleep in, otherwise I may well have been out searching for these inconsiderate idiots, and introducing them to my size 9 steel toecapped boots .
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on January 01, 2022, 05:13:19 PM
Quote from: class37025 on January 01, 2022, 04:26:10 PM
fireworks still going off at 01:15 this morning,

so on behalf of all those who had an 06:00 or 07:00 start at work this morning [ and over the years I've had many of those ] thank you very much you selfish  :censored:

luckily now I am retired I can sleep in, otherwise I may well have been out searching for these inconsiderate idiots, and introducing them to my size 9 steel toecapped boots .

Finished early at your place, 02.35 here!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 01, 2022, 05:19:34 PM
As I hinted elsewhere the noise in and around Bristol last night was astonishing.

For some reason it really picked up around 11:50, seems these people can't, erm, go off at the appointed moment.

Also had a spate of stupidly load explosions seemingly right at the front of the house. Always bloody annoying that, not pretty just making a noise.

Thankfully my one remaining moggy is ok this morning. She insisted on going out last night and I was a bit concerned.

Last ones around 01:15, so illegal, but what can we do?

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 01, 2022, 05:22:34 PM
 "so illegal, but what can we do?"

Terminate with extreme prejudiced  >:D /
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 01, 2022, 05:24:54 PM
Quote from: class37025 on January 01, 2022, 05:22:34 PM
"so illegal, but what can we do?"

Terminate with extreme prejudiced  >:D /

Having watched the most recent "Terminator" film over the holidays, I can honestly say watching your version would be far better.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 01, 2022, 05:35:25 PM
many years ago, an ex - neighbour [not dead, just moved  >:D] was well known / notorious for his 'sod you, if I want to I will' attitude.......

so, new years eve on saturday, and I had an 06:30 start in Hove, which meant leave about 06:00, arrive at 06:15, take over brief, and let the night crew get off on time........

loud music, loads of laughter etc and at 01:00 loud fireworks from said neighbour ....

got up at 05:30, got dressed, had breakie, then walked Coco, our shepherd, before leaving for work at 06:00.

found a rocket stick on the car roof, so headed up the road ....

bang, bang, bang on his front door...

after several minutes " what ? do you know what time it is? "

>:D :D

"I take it that as you were the only   :censored: letting off fireworks at 01:15, and this was not on my car roof at 00:30, then this is yours !. when I get to work, and it is daylight, I will check for damage to my car roof, and if there is any, YOU WILL BE PAYING FOR IT !"
stuffed rocket stick into his hand [ok I was seriously tempted with other destinations...]

funny, the next new year ..... no fireworks  :hmmm:

who suggested that morons can't learn ? :smiley-laughing:

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: exmouthcraig on January 01, 2022, 05:41:22 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on January 01, 2022, 05:24:54 PM
Quote from: class37025 on January 01, 2022, 05:22:34 PM
"so illegal, but what can we do?"

Terminate with extreme prejudiced  >:D /

Having watched the most recent "Terminator" film over the holidays, I can honestly say watching your version would be far better.

Skyline2uk

DO NOT give his ego that kind of boost, he already thinks Tom Clancy should use him as "technical advice "

:smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on January 01, 2022, 06:37:07 PM
Quote from: class37025 on January 01, 2022, 05:35:25 PM
an ex - neighbour [not dead, just moved  >:D]

You're slacking, I'm amazed that he survived  :confused1:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 01, 2022, 06:39:02 PM
obviously I must be getting mellow in my old age  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on January 02, 2022, 08:41:52 AM
Apparently he moved to get away from the nightmare neighbours :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 05, 2022, 07:10:50 PM
back where I belong, and no doubt soon to be banished, yet again, to the naughty step for 'political' comment,

but did anyone else notice on the ITV news tonight that either Boris didn't know what he was talking about, or was lying ?

on a segment about the cost of energy, he stated that the government was helping with a £300 winter fuel allowance, but a quick check with fellow pensioners / friends confirmed no increase from the £200 it has been for decades.

so, does he not know what he is talking about, or does he think people are gullible enough to believe anything he says ?

kettle boiling for my flask of coffee, NATO, bag packed with Jaffa cakes, Digestive biccies etc, and a cushion to soften my long seating on the bare boards of the naughty step.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on January 05, 2022, 07:17:31 PM
Probably 'cos you ain't old enough, I got £300 being over 80 and living alone

https://www.gov.uk/winter-fuel-payment/how-much-youll-get (https://www.gov.uk/winter-fuel-payment/how-much-youll-get)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 05, 2022, 08:37:43 PM
ahhh, so if I survive anothe 4 1/2 years, I'll be able to afford to keep warm  :hmmm:

mind you, he didn't, of course, say that, so gave the impression that everyone who was eligible got the £300.

but of course it sounded good, and that is what matters.

did love the comment in the series Anne last night, when asked about a minister, comment was not suitable for this forum, but very apt. those of you who watched it know what I mean  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 05, 2022, 09:53:51 PM
I think I'm going to leave your political post there so folks can see you crash and burn, Alan >:D
Never let the truth get in the way of a good rant, eh? Tut, tut ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on January 05, 2022, 10:58:12 PM
After the crash, at the least the burning will keep him warm  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 06, 2022, 09:38:34 AM
Having been a recipient of the £200 heating allowance each winter since I became a 'senior citizen' I have always assumed it is to help OFFSET the extra cost of heating for, say, 6 months of the year - NOT to pay the entire amount per month. For sure, it is galling the allowance has not risen in line with fuel prices or even inflation but it's certainly better than a smack in the face with a wet fish.....

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on January 06, 2022, 10:07:56 AM
There is a fuel allowance in Ireland for people aged between 66 and 70 years of age, which you can get - depending on your circumstances, as this payment is means tested. It is paid from September through to April. Being 70, I get a different allowance, which gives me €1.15 per day, paid monthly, towards my electricity bill, plus the free TV licence. Taking everything into account, the Government here are more generous to the pensioners than the UK Government are to UK pensioners.
The Irish Government has also stated that every household in Ireland will get a one off €100 credit on the electricity bill this year, to be paid around March time. (Much better than a slap in the face with a wet fish  ;)).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on January 06, 2022, 10:19:22 AM
With my electricity bill up by 25% in the last year (with no increase in usage) and a currently predicted rise in the 'cap' of about 50% in April this year (and maybe a further 20 to 25% in October), next years payment to us cold'n'old folks might just be enough to cover the increased cost of a single cold week or so next winter. :(  :cold:

It's certainly not a wet fish slap, and I'm grateful to receive it out here in the cold and freezing wilds of darkest, flattest, windswept Lincolnshire, but here's hoping it will be brought into line with reality for next winter.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on January 06, 2022, 02:43:30 PM
I think something must be wrong with our smart meter display normally with just the tele and sky box on it is green ,if I put the kettle on it goes orange and with the toaster or cooker  it goes red ,So far today  its been orange or red all the time .We have even turned the heating down to save money on the gas its now locked on 18 degrees during the day and 16 at night .
At this rate I will turn every thing OFF and stay in bed all day and night .
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: nabber on January 06, 2022, 04:08:10 PM
Quote from: Bob Tidbury on January 06, 2022, 02:43:30 PM
So far today  its been orange or red all the time .
Bob Tidbury
It could be that something somewhere is switched on and you didn't realise. Have you got an electric immersion heater in your hot water cylinder? Has that got switched on by mistake? Or something else with a heater - iron, washing machine, tumble dryer?

Neil
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 06, 2022, 04:11:57 PM
Quote from: Bob Tidbury on January 06, 2022, 02:43:30 PM
We have even turned the heating down to save money on the gas its now locked on 18 degrees during the day and 16 at night .
At this rate I will turn every thing OFF and stay in bed all day and night .
Bob Tidbury

Bob - you should not be doing that. I would say you are medically 'at risk'. Please contact your power supplier and inform them what is going on.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on January 06, 2022, 05:47:52 PM
I agree with Mick. It certainly sounds that something isn't right. I would be inclined to ring the supply company and let them know. They could probably do some sort of check to see whether it is the meter at fault or not.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on January 06, 2022, 06:00:38 PM
Immersion heater can be a culprit as stated above; I would suggest checking every socket in every room - maybe an electric convector heater is on in a room you don't use often, also check cooker - oven and rings. Do you have fuses or circuit breakers, if circuit breakers you could switch off individual circuits to try and find which circuit - if any- is possibly causing the problem.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on January 06, 2022, 06:13:45 PM
Similar thing happened to my father in law. He'd turned a dehumidifier on in his conservatory and hardly ever venturing out there forgot about it for months. A very large bill followed.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 13, 2022, 03:51:30 PM
Just another example of the world going mad..............

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/midget-gems-renamed-disability-campaigner-161201776.html

If anyone has a certain model of MG then you must rename it, and we certainly only used mini submarines in WW2 ::) ::) :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on January 13, 2022, 04:02:21 PM
I am not sure which annoys me most - the fact that someone has complained about the word 'midget', or the fact that Marks and Spencers have renamed the midget gems!  :goggleeyes:

Sorry, I have just used that word twice, my apologies to the vertically challenged members in our society.  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 13, 2022, 04:37:18 PM
here again, and this time I'm angry at .........

MYSELF !

MOT due today at 15:45, so yesterday did a full check of it, levels, lights etc and it started fine while I checked the lights etc.

went out today at 15:30, all planned, drop car at garage, wa;lk down to Tesco, then wander back to collect car.....

:censored:

very cold night last night, heavy frost etc, and must have knocked the battery down as car turned over but wouldn't start  >:(

chucked the charger on  for five minutes, then triad again

still non start  :censored:

had to phone the garage and cancel, then re-book for next tuesday, at 08:00  :'(

never thought to try it earlier, as I didn't have any errands to run.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on January 13, 2022, 04:51:32 PM
Could be down to the exceptionally damp cold weather we are having lately causing condensation issues with your plug wiring. I've noted unusual extreme interior condensation the last few mornings in my car, as well as under the bonnet yesterday as I checked washer fluid levels. Even had condensation on outside of my dash dials, which I've never noted before.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 13, 2022, 05:14:37 PM
trouble is it's a diesel, so takes more out of the battery to get the compression to fire. petrols I always kept sprayed with duck oil over the electrics.

did go out once when I was on the AA to a lady whose car wouldn't start in the damp, she'd been sold easistart by Halfords and told to spray it over the electrics before trying again.

needless to say I took it off her very quickly, ether and sparks are not a good mix  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on January 13, 2022, 06:28:25 PM
Jump start packs on Amazon, cherge it from mains or some from USB

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=jump+starter+power+pack&rh=p_90%3A22415809031&dc&crid=JGIZVKEDO7UL&qid=1642098455&rnid=5381144031&sprefix=jump+starter+power+pack%2Caps%2C130&ref=sr_nr_p_90_1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=jump+starter+power+pack&rh=p_90%3A22415809031&dc&crid=JGIZVKEDO7UL&qid=1642098455&rnid=5381144031&sprefix=jump+starter+power+pack%2Caps%2C130&ref=sr_nr_p_90_1)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 13, 2022, 08:03:24 PM
Quote from: class37025 on January 13, 2022, 04:37:18 PM
chucked the charger on  for five minutes, then triad again


I see the Chinese get the blame, again :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on January 13, 2022, 11:33:35 PM
We used to use diesel generators to power our equipment when on site. They were ex WW2 searchlight generators. Horizontally opposed 4s. Easy start was mandatory to get them going, they got addicted to the stuff. Mind you, so did I.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on January 14, 2022, 02:13:08 AM
During WW2 the island my sailing club is on became a searchlight position to protect a nearby chain home radar station.
What this means is the supply is a huge 3 phase heavy duty supply with their termination actually on the island.

Recently the cable failed underwater, , the electricity company supplied a generator the size of a full container for a temporary supply,.

They then replaced the cable under the water.. it did well lasting 80 years under there.

Oh what do we normally use on the island? A small tea urn and we serve bacon butties on a Sunday morning using at most 2 rings on the cooker...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 14, 2022, 09:49:32 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on January 13, 2022, 08:03:24 PM
Quote from: class37025 on January 13, 2022, 04:37:18 PM
chucked the charger on  for five minutes, then triad again


I see the Chinese get the blame, again :D

after watching the news last night, I did wonder if a certain Chinese lawyer might want to influence my political views by donating a new battery  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on January 14, 2022, 02:10:10 PM
We bought our eldest son a £1300 laptop before he went away to university in September. We bought a higher spec model than he needs, to avoid him having to take a desktop as well for gaming, allowing him to pass his desktop machine on to his brother. He's been having some overheating problems, which Dell confirmed were due to a known fault and arranged to collect, replace the motherboard and return it. Due to their available pick-up days, he had to cut-short his Christmas holiday and rush back to halls. He struggled to do a marked, remote, course presentation on my very old, painfully slow laptop, has been unable to play online games or chat with many of his friends, most of the other students are not back yet and for the last 3 days has been unable to go out in case they returned it.

Today it came back. He promptly went to open it up to fit the second SSD, containing his coursework, only to find that he couldn't - during the repair they have stripped two screw heads. They wanted him to send it back (another 7 to 12 working days!), but he refused. They are now going to send someone to him to try and fix it (it will need a new back cover, as they are captive screws), but they can't tell him when and he'll have to sit in for another three to five days.

If they hadn't needed to pick it up from his registered address, he could still have been here at home until the end of the month!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on January 15, 2022, 01:50:16 AM
Quote from: class37025 on January 13, 2022, 05:14:37 PM
trouble is it's a diesel, so takes more out of the battery to get the compression to fire. petrols I always kept sprayed with duck oil over the electrics.

did go out once when I was on the AA to a lady whose car wouldn't start in the damp, she'd been sold easistart by Halfords and told to spray it over the electrics before trying again.

needless to say I took it off her very quickly, ether and sparks are not a good mix  :hmmm:

A former AA man who can't get his own car started, whatever next?  :smiley-laughing:

Are you sure the AA you worked for was the Automobile Association and not Alcoholics Anonymous?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 15, 2022, 09:41:04 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on January 15, 2022, 01:50:16 AM
Quote from: class37025 on January 13, 2022, 05:14:37 PM
trouble is it's a diesel, so takes more out of the battery to get the compression to fire. petrols I always kept sprayed with duck oil over the electrics.

did go out once when I was on the AA to a lady whose car wouldn't start in the damp, she'd been sold easistart by Halfords and told to spray it over the electrics before trying again.

needless to say I took it off her very quickly, ether and sparks are not a good mix  :hmmm:

A former AA man who can't get his own car started, whatever next?  :smiley-laughing:

Are you sure the AA you worked for was the Automobile Association and not Alcoholics Anonymous?

John @Trainfish (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=262),
in my own defence,
1. I always reverse onto the front parking area, I learnt decades ago that was best as you don't want to reverse onto a road, and also a bit embarrassing when you rush out of the guardroom, leap into the landie, hit the blues, and have to then wait for someone to let you reverse out of the parking slot.
much easier to hit the blues and just drive out.

2. the battery is in the boot of the Volvo, and the daughter's heap project scoobie sits next to it, so I couldn't get another vehicle there to use jump leads

3. having once been out to a member who'd jumped his car with leads, then straight away took them off to head to work, and knackered the diode pack in his alternator, I am a firm believer in at least 10 minutes charging of the battery with jump leads before any attempt at starting the engine on a car with a flat battery. so I would still have missed my MOT slot at the garage.

unfortunately the garage didn't have another MOT sat there that could have taken my slot, and then I could have taken the next one.

sod's law.

I rest my defence, m'lud. :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on January 15, 2022, 11:43:37 AM
I think the jury is still out on that one and I would expect a Volvo to handle a little drop in temperature.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 15, 2022, 12:28:36 PM
I've had the car for over ten years, and not replaced the battery.
I think it is probably a combination of less use / shorter journeys as well as age of the battery, like us they get less capable with age, and a hard freeze overnight.
some cars with batteries in the boot do have connectors under the bonnet where you can attach jump leads, but this doesn't, or at least I've not found any  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 15, 2022, 12:38:44 PM
Quote from: daffy on January 13, 2022, 04:51:32 PM
I've noted unusual extreme interior condensation the last few mornings in my car, as well as under the bonnet yesterday as I checked washer fluid levels. Even had condensation on outside of my dash dials, which I've never noted before.

@daffy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5634) Strangely I started experiencing the same thing last winter to the extent I asked my garage if the windscreen seal had gone on my 6 year old Siesta. They checked it and said it was OK but it has happened once this winter so far. :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 15, 2022, 01:02:26 PM
I wonder if it's damp air coming in through open vents ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on January 15, 2022, 01:06:31 PM
It often is. Can be side windows too. It's worth opening them and closing them again to make sure they are fully closed.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on January 15, 2022, 01:37:34 PM
I think I've found the cure as it has not happened again following some online research. It seems the simple expedient of changing the air in the car at the end of a journey by opening the window for the last half mile is effective, or, if it's just parked all day on my drive and the sun is on it for a fair while, I simply need to open the doors for a moment an hour or so before sunset to 'air' it and minimise the temperature differential of outside/inside.

Two comments online also of note: one (an American site) suggests that using full windscreen fan mode to clear it may simply recirculate the moisture in some cars, clearing it as you drive but leaving a high moisture content in the car which, when night-time cold returns, condenses again on the interior glass; the other comment refers to something I noted many years ago, that using Air-con can do the same, as some of the moisture removed and trapped in the Air-con reservoir returns to the car interior and condenses when it's parked. This seems to be particularly likely where short journeys between cold start and parking for the night are involved.

A few folks online mentioned leaving a window very slightly open overnight can also work, but as I want my car to still be there in the morning at not used for some oiks joy-riding pleasure, I shall not be doing that. :no:

So far so good anyway with just airing the car as I have done for the last few days proving very effective with zero condensation! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: woodbury22uk on January 19, 2022, 11:20:09 AM
This Is written more out of despair than anger. When my wife died suddenly back in November, I needed to change bank details for various direct debits which were paid from her bank account. For almost everybody the changes were made simply and quickly. For some reason my local Redditch Borough Council has made a meal of changing the Council Tax details. In my first call to them on 16 November 2021 I notified them of the need to change the account name to just me, adjust the amount to be paid as I was now a single occupant, and use my bank account details to collect the remaining amount. I was given a change reference number and assured everything would be actioned. Six phone calls and 4 letters later, I still owe them for 3 months Council Tax. In what I hope has been the final call today, they have agreed to correct the errors that have progressively crept into the account name with each letter, set-up the new direct debit today, and collect the remaining amount owed over the next two months. We will see.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 19, 2022, 12:00:36 PM
A tragedy like you have suffered is bad enough, Mike, but that is a very sorry tale and the Council should be ashamed of themselves. I bet they'd be shocked if you invoiced them for the telephone calls and the postage stamps.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: woodbury22uk on January 19, 2022, 01:18:54 PM
@Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)  There is a bit of a timewarp between my home and council offices 5 miles away. Their most recent letter was dated 23 December 2021 and arrived on 15 January 2022. My only comfort is that the money remains in my bank until they get things right. I have put a reminder in the diary for a follow up for a month's time by which time the letter they are sending today may have arrived. Postal services are working normally here, but the council transports it mail to a bulk mailing centre half way across the county to take advantage of some discounted rates. I registered for digital communications two years back but to date only one message has arrived digitally, and that was the confirmation of the registration! My digital message to them is still sitting unopened in their inbox!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on January 20, 2022, 11:47:19 AM
I had problems with Severn Trent water sending bills to the previous occupant, even though I told them we had moved in. Eventually I sent the payment cheque made out to Thames Water Authority. They quickly replied that I had got the name wrong. I replied,"you get my name right and I'll get yours right"
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on January 20, 2022, 12:32:48 PM
For twenty years, I kept returning mail that was sent to the previous occupants here and informing companies that they had moved. Most of it was from the Halifax, offering loans and credit cards and they would not stop - despite me buying the house from the Halifax, when the previous owners were declared bankrupt and the house was repossessed! They refused to stop for ages, as this was the registered address and I was not the customer. I pointed out that they were a) inconveniencing me and b) sending someone else's confidential data to me and I threatened to start charging for handling their mail, before they finally stopped it. They eventually gave me 25 pounds for my trouble.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: railsquid on January 20, 2022, 04:12:24 PM
Way back I managed to snaffle the email address "lastname@majoremailprovider.com" and since then get a whole variety of email for people with the same surname. A particularly bad offender was an Australian telecoms company called Telstra, who assumed I was one of their customers and kept sending me billing information etc., without so much as a hint of how I could tell them they had the wrong person (this happens quite a lot with various companies). Anyway said person became delinquent with their bills and I was the recepient of a bunch of increasingly strident reminders, so I screenshotted the latest one and put it on their public Facebook page with the sincerely worded hope that if someone knows that particular lastname, maybe they could let her know as Telstra are obviously incapable of doing so. The post was gone in about 2 minutes and I never got another email.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 25, 2022, 06:57:44 PM
 :censored: :censored: :censored:
picked up SWMBO's repeat prescription today, got home, sorted it out and found that a medication she has been on for years has been removed from the repeat prescription........

so now I've got to phone the surgery tomorrow and sort it out, ha, ha

listen to long spiel, once you get through, about covid, then get through all the options till you get prescription queries, then chance as to whether they actually bother to answer.

then there is the 'we can't deal with queries over prescriptions'

hang on, that is the  :censored: option I just selected....

then no doubt tons of utter  :poop: before I'll get told I need to speak to the doctor ..

yeah right....

so what utter  :censored: decided to remove medication, with no reference or notification to the patient ?

looks like tomorrow will be one pile of  :poop: after another.....

and you never get any sort of apology even when they have  :censored: up.

due to 'covid' she hasn't seen the doctor for over two years, what a surprise, even though 'reviews' of medication have passed without any attempt to see her.

off to Tesco for a bottle of water, scottish, calming, idiots for the use off  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on January 27, 2022, 03:01:39 PM
Petty minded bureaucracy is doing my head in. After leaving my exam invigilator job 3 months ago as a jobsworth twisted a Kenny Everett quote into I was going to murder all the students they still haven't hit the necessary button to say I left so I can't get a P45 not that I need one at the moment!
I'd been a postie for years so secured a part time job back with them delivering covid testing kits on Sundays which was ideal but, oh no, that would be too simple. I survived the interviews and the mountain of paperwork required but the final thing was providing a copy of my perfectly legal paper driving license. Sorry, we only accept paper licenses if issued before 1997 whilst yours was issued in 1999. You will need a photo license.
Hold on, my paper license was perfectly acceptable to you for the 14 years I worked for you but not now? No, job offer withdrawn.
And they wonder why they struggle for staff.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 27, 2022, 03:05:39 PM
So much for going 'paperless' ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on January 27, 2022, 03:42:13 PM
Quote from: class37025 on January 25, 2022, 06:57:44 PM
:censored: :censored: :censored:
picked up SWMBO's repeat prescription today, got home, sorted it out and found that a medication she has been on for years has been removed from the repeat prescription........

so now I've got to phone the surgery tomorrow and sort it out, ha, ha

listen to long spiel, once you get through, about covid, then get through all the options till you get prescription queries, then chance as to whether they actually bother to answer.

then there is the 'we can't deal with queries over prescriptions'

hang on, that is the  :censored: option I just selected....

then no doubt tons of utter  :poop: before I'll get told I need to speak to the doctor ..

yeah right....

so what utter  :censored: decided to remove medication, with no reference or notification to the patient ?

looks like tomorrow will be one pile of  :poop: after another.....

and you never get any sort of apology even when they have  :censored: up.

due to 'covid' she hasn't seen the doctor for over two years, what a surprise, even though 'reviews' of medication have passed without any attempt to see her.

off to Tesco for a bottle of water, scottish, calming, idiots for the use off  :beers:

update .....

actually got through to the prescription query option, and got hold of [not literally] someone helpful 
:thumbsup:

it appears that at her on the phone review it was decided to reduce her from a 40mgm to a 20 mgm tablet daily....

after a month I contacted them and said ther was no recurrence of the problem on the lower dose ....

so some  :censored: decided to take her off the reduced dose.

no advice of course, left till it disappeared off the repeat prescription and was questioned...

so glad I only have two items, statins, and pain killers for my back, on my repeat prescription, so much easier to keep track of, and when I had my telephone review, pointed out that a. statins were decided by the doctor, and pain killers were as a result of a long term back problem.

'could you do without the pain killers ?"

yes, but I would obviously be in pain !

"err ok we'll continue with them"

cost cutting exercise ??????????????????????????
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 27, 2022, 08:10:07 PM
6 months or so ago my doctor told me he was changing my statin as my BP was raised, and he changed it to one he took me off as it was giving me pains in the lower legs. Sure enough, after just a week I had to cease going to the gym classes as it was too painful. I have tried contacting him but am starting to disbelieve he ever existed. At my next review I will take great delight in informing them I have put on weight and lost muscle tone as a direct result of their action. I will also inform them I suffer from 'white coat syndrome' and my BP rises every time I visit hospitals or GP surgery.
This is known by both establishments. As it is, there are far too many things going on that raise my BP anyway.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on January 28, 2022, 10:55:49 AM
I have white coat syndrome as well, Mick. So I went to Lloyds chemist and bought a decent BP monitor. Now I do my own BP for a few days before my review and the nurse just records them.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 28, 2022, 11:08:43 AM
Quote from: Malc on January 28, 2022, 10:55:49 AM
I have white coat syndrome as well, Mick. So I went to Lloyds chemist and bought a decent BP monitor. Now I do my own BP for a few days before my review and the nurse just records them.

I have one too, Malc. I did give the practice receptionist data from 2 weeks of tests but haven't a clue if it got to my GP as I heard nothing.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on January 28, 2022, 11:17:33 AM
I also had leg pains with the first statin they tried, usually at night. I am now on Atorvastatin and I take it first thing in a morning. I have been on this for the last 5 years and no problems.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jack on January 28, 2022, 11:59:57 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on January 28, 2022, 11:08:43 AM
Quote from: Malc on January 28, 2022, 10:55:49 AM
I have white coat syndrome as well, Mick. So I went to Lloyds chemist and bought a decent BP monitor. Now I do my own BP for a few days before my review and the nurse just records them.

I have one too, Malc. I did give the practice receptionist data from 2 weeks of tests but haven't a clue if it got to my GP as I heard nothing.

It's the same at my GP Practise when I give any BP data, I get a "No news is good news" response. It's the same response when they draw an armful of blood into test tubes. I'll use the NHS App, where I can check my GP notes for test results and other data entries  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 28, 2022, 12:08:52 PM
Quote from: Malc on January 28, 2022, 11:17:33 AM
I also had leg pains with the first statin they tried, usually at night. I am now on Atorvastatin and I take it first thing in a morning. I have been on this for the last 5 years and no problems.

My leg pains first came about with Simvastatin so he changed me onto Atorvastatin which didn't help any so he then prescribed Pravastatin. All was OK until he moved me back to Atorvastatin owing to slightly raised BP :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on February 06, 2022, 05:58:53 PM
ok, so where do these idiots come from ?
on the news tonight, some 'boss' from Tesco said he expected prices to rise 'by low to mid single figures' which when I was at school would be around 5%....

on friday, with our eldest grandson down for the weekend, I got, among other items, some bottles of Tesco's own coke.....
was 50p, now 60p ..

err, when I was at school that equated to a 1/5th, or 20% increase  :censored:

obviously, he hasn't either been in one of his stores or shopped there for a while  >:D

typical CEO, treats customers as though they are idiots, collects his massive pay, and couldn't give a toss about staff or customers.

and lies like hell on tv to cover it up.

ok, bag packed, and ready to head to the naughty step, yet again  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on February 06, 2022, 06:16:16 PM
The people like him dont do any shopping they have servants to do menial tasks like that he has probably never actualy been shopping and has never seen the household bills for himself .
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on February 06, 2022, 07:48:43 PM
nearly two decades ago, when I spent a year or so working nights at Tesco, the then CEO, Sir Terry Lehey, would turn up, unannounced at stores, and have a wander round to see what was going on...

and he'd stop and chat to the shop floor staff, never mind the managers, who would finally realise he was there and try to head him off  :D

of course, by then he had an idea of how the store was doing, and how the staff felt  >:D

this  :censored: presumably sits in his office checking his portfolio and pension rather than actually getting out and seeing what is going on.

as usual, probably a university degree in economics and never done a real day's work in his life, like mos company bosses these days.

oh for the days when bosses were promoted from the shop / factory floor and knew what they were talking about.

mind you, you couldn't pull the wool over their eyes  :hmmm:

I remember when the AA recruited a pile of senior managers, one from a brewery, presumeably to prove they could organise a  :beers: in a brewery.

you could run rings round them, cause they didn't know  :poop: about the real job. :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 06, 2022, 07:59:29 PM
Had to do a shop in tesco myself, queued up to pay, next minute I notice, person on checkouts was not being helpful and on phone, then some person no face mask queue jumped. I said excuse me please  , lady behind said there's a queue. What's that idiot replied. He barged in just to buy a crate of beer. Held back to avoid an argument. Next day same queuing to buy a coffee, waited for an idiot too interested in her chat with a mate, staff asked what my drink was and politely to stand back so I could scan my loyalty card, okay. Both staff and myself shocked as some other bloke, the mate rudely told them no we was first  we wait 2 minutes for our coffee and hate interruptions. I said excuse me I'd like to pay. Told in no uncertain terms where to go. Just did not reply. What this society coming to?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 06, 2022, 08:07:58 PM
Alan. The tesco incident could have been managed by the assistant inviting the customers forward but too busy chatting to other staff personal issues or on phones and headsets. The coffee shop ...... I did not want to create a scene but the idiot apparently was spoken to by an off duty policeman. He he.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on February 06, 2022, 09:27:01 PM
hope he wasn't Met, we all know they don't do anything unless they have to.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 06, 2022, 09:31:55 PM
No one of the local officers were I live. But really had to keep cool. Bloke was not pleasant smiled sweetly at the young lass in the coffee shop she's under 18 apparently she was not riled either . Her supervisor had a word and PC guy was helpful . What is wrong with society I think.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on February 10, 2022, 07:11:27 PM
Sick of the local council who are clueless at running local school dinners. The are losing staff hand over fist, people leaving left right and centre so they are short of staff. The reason they treat staff badly, my wife has been ill,  she took a covid test which was negative. Monday morning she rung in sick and told them she was ill with a bad cough but tested negative for covid, they insisted she go and get a a covid test at the centre even though she was bad. This again was negative they tried to get her to go in work on the Tuesday even though she was coughing a the time, she told them she would go in on the Wednesday. Wednesday comes and the school is shut with no hot water or heating the school boiler had failed. They then instructed her to go to another school, fortunately not too far away. Other staff were not so lucky and told to go to schools in the next town. One staff member has children at the school that had closed, she was told she had to work at another school even though she had nobody to look after her children, or not be paid. This is what the world is coming to, terrible no caring for anybody. Rant over.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: grumbeast on February 14, 2022, 11:14:28 PM
I know this is a mainly UK based forum, but I just want to vent a bit.  I am SO FREAKING ANGRY at this idiotic truck convoy and the damage they are doing to Canada and Canadians.  I've just heard that PM Trudeau has just invoked the Emergencies Act (replaced the War Measures act) so the Federal Government can finally deal with them and remove the blockade.  Its late coming, should have happened 2 weeks ago but better late than never.  And the fact that they've co-opted the Canadian flag, and blurt on about 'Freedom' like they know the meaning of the word and we've just found out that over 50% of the donations to this so called cause have come from the US!. We have a vaccination rate of around 90% and this tiny minority of loudmouths with the support of their good old boy friends down south have been trying to hold our democratically elected government (whether I agree with them or not) hostage.  I doubt they've read the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, cause it talks about 'Rights and RESPONSIBILITIES'. They want all the former with none of the later.

Whew I could go on but the temperature would rise and my invective would get waay worse.

Sorry about that.. normal service will resume now

G.

Thanks for listening
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on February 14, 2022, 11:20:59 PM
No apologies necessary. I get it.

Society is riddled with gits whining about their 'rights', and as you say, no thought about their 'responsibilities'. It makes me mad enough to do harm.

:veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on February 15, 2022, 08:38:38 AM
One of the problems with people demanding their rights, is that they take no account of the rights of others. We have become a very selfish race.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 24, 2022, 02:29:31 PM
Surprise, surprise - I had an e mail from my power supplier telling me prices would be rising.
Gasp. Horror. Shock! Probe!
I've been living under a rock for the past year and didn't know this ::)
I tried to call them but I guess whoever was working from home that day had gone out, so I mailed them a reply today...........

Hi,
I tried to phone yesterday and that was an exercise in futility as after 21 minutes listening to the twanging music I threw the phone at the wall and retired to a mental institution.
I have changed my monthly DD to £85 as I expected prices to rise and will keep an eye on things.
Please don't bang on to me about smart meters. I have had your smart meters for about 4 years or so now and it was you, E.ON, who informed me they were no longer compatible with your new 'Next' systems. You asked if I wanted smart meters and when I replied "Yes" you told me they were not available yet.
Maybe you'd like to give me an update on that situation.
Yours unhappily

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on February 24, 2022, 03:25:13 PM
how very restrained, I'd better not give my views  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on February 24, 2022, 07:22:33 PM
£85? I would have to turn everything off for 2 weeks each month to get mine down to that  :*(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 24, 2022, 07:36:10 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on February 24, 2022, 07:22:33 PM
£85? I would have to turn everything off for 2 weeks each month to get mine down to that  :*(

Yeah, but we've all seen the model of where you live on your layout so I'm surprised it's not £385 per month for you!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on February 24, 2022, 08:42:39 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on February 24, 2022, 07:36:10 PM

Yeah, but we've all seen the model of where you live on your layout so I'm surprised it's not £385 per month for you!

And don't forget all those beer fridges.  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on February 25, 2022, 01:17:35 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on February 24, 2022, 07:36:10 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on February 24, 2022, 07:22:33 PM
£85? I would have to turn everything off for 2 weeks each month to get mine down to that  :*(

Yeah, but we've all seen the model of where you live on your layout so I'm surprised it's not £385 per month for you!

I don't live there, it's just 1 of my properties as mentioned in another thread somewhere.

Quote from: dannyboy on February 24, 2022, 08:42:39 PM
And don't forget all those beer fridges.  :)

I've only got 2 beer fridges. The other 2 are chillers  :thumbsup: :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on February 26, 2022, 02:38:56 PM
back where I belong.....
can anyone please explain to me what the  :censored: an inset day is ?????

when I went to school, term started, we went till half term, had half term, went back till the end of term.

nowadays it seems teachers cant start the term, restart after half term, or even finish the term without an inset day, ie apparently a day on full pay with no work.

sod the parents who then have to arrange childcare.

or do our teachers these days need to be retrained every few weeks, certainly ours didn't.

so yet again looking after the grandchildren while teachers drink coffee, do sod all, and get paid.

I take it this is our so called 'progress'  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 27, 2022, 07:46:01 AM
As an ex-physics teacher, I would just say this.

Here in NSW, we had what we called Pupil Free Days for many years, even at the start of every term.

It wasn't a hassle for parents - they knew school didn't start until the day after.

However, from my point of view, they were the most incredible waste of time with a load of  :poop: shoved down your throat.

I hated them and used to whinge to Mrs Bealman about the waste of public money. I wanted to get back to teaching!

I had some long lunches down the pub.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: chrism on February 27, 2022, 07:58:33 AM
Quote from: class37025 on February 26, 2022, 02:38:56 PM
back where I belong.....
can anyone please explain to me what the  :censored: an inset day is ?????

AKA Baker Days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inset_day
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 27, 2022, 08:34:26 AM
Looking at that link, it reminds me of how much I wished that I could have just used the time to get my lab ready, and line something up for the next day, when the kids arrived!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 27, 2022, 10:23:38 AM
Jeepers! So kids are only under tuition 52% of the year.
That explains a lot of things to me
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on February 27, 2022, 01:55:38 PM
Quote from: class37025 on February 26, 2022, 02:38:56 PM
can anyone please explain to me what the  :censored: an inset day is ?????

I first read that as an insect day and was about to explain that it was the day when the matron ran her fingers through your hair looking for nits. Luckily I read the replies before making myself look stupid   :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OffshoreAlan on February 27, 2022, 02:09:43 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on February 27, 2022, 01:55:38 PM

I first read that as an insect day and was about to explain that it was the day when the matron ran her fingers through your hair looking for nits.....

It could have been worse, you could have read it as incest day, the day when matron  :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on February 27, 2022, 02:10:13 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on February 27, 2022, 01:55:38 PM
Quote from: class37025 on February 26, 2022, 02:38:56 PM
can anyone please explain to me what the  :censored: an inset day is ?????

I first read that as an insect day and was about to explain that it was the day when the matron ran her fingers through your hair looking for nits. Luckily I read the replies before making myself look stupid   :doh:

could have been worse, there is another word that could have easily have been misread  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on February 27, 2022, 03:05:11 PM
I also seem to remember we were in school 09:00 to 16:00 every day. Yet when I finish work at 15:00 the roads are clogged with children leaving school..
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: chrism on February 27, 2022, 03:10:11 PM
Quote from: The Q on February 27, 2022, 03:05:11 PM
I also seem to remember we were in school 09:00 to 16:00 every day. Yet when I finish work at 15:00 the roads are clogged with children leaving school..

08:45 to 15:55 for me
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on February 27, 2022, 03:11:00 PM
indeed,
09:00 to 16:00 each day except wednesday and saturday.

sports afternoons

rugby / cricket / rowing / five mile run depending on the term and your ability.

then prep in the evening , ie homework, anyone else remember that ?

and 'my dog ate it' DID NOT WORK ! :-[

at our school, we also had a three mile run after school on monday / tuesday / thursday and friday.

no chance to get obese  >:D

that was on top of a one hour PT lesson every day.

we were fit,.... not 'fit', but just fit  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on February 27, 2022, 03:19:21 PM
When at secondary school in the 80's we were there 8:45 to 4:00 but had 2 x 20 minute breaks and an hour for lunch. The school I worked at until recently may have started at the same time yet finished at 3:00 but only had 40 minutes of breaks in total so no actual difference in teaching time.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on February 27, 2022, 04:31:59 PM
You mean the teachers needing to be restrained? I think a few of mine would have been quite happy to be restrained especially our Irish French teacher  :heart:

Quote from: OffshoreAlan on February 27, 2022, 02:09:43 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on February 27, 2022, 01:55:38 PM

I first read that as an insect day and was about to explain that it was the day when the matron ran her fingers through your hair looking for nits.....

It could have been worse, you could have read it as incest day, the day when matron  :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on February 27, 2022, 04:37:51 PM
 :-[
do you want to list your preferences re tea / coffee / jaffa cakes / hobnobs  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on February 27, 2022, 05:46:10 PM
Quote from: thebrighton on February 27, 2022, 03:19:21 PM
When at secondary school in the 80's we were there 8:45 to 4:00 but had 2 x 20 minute breaks and an hour for lunch. The school I worked at until recently may have started at the same time yet finished at 3:00 but only had 40 minutes of breaks in total so no actual difference in teaching time.

Yes. I had time, during lunch breaks, to do some programming at a friend's house nearby or play badminton in school. My sons have just enough time to get lunch and eat it. The time for playing, making lasting friendships, etc. has disappeared. Even worse, from year 10, they shift from finishing at 15:00 to finishing at 16:00, making it a very long school day, with so little break time ... on top of a 2-1/2 hour round trip by bus; then homework; plus extra classes/work during holidays or at weekends.

I'm pretty sure they work harder than we had to!

I must admit the local school finish at 14:30, right through the whole school and have poor results - one of the reasons that my sons have a long bus journey!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Richardxharrison on February 27, 2022, 09:45:31 PM
Two responses in one post!

British Gas have just advised me that they have recalculated my monthly electric and gas direct debit to commence 1st march at £675.00 per month... really why should my swimming pool, outdoor hot tub and 7 bedroom, 4 living room and Victorian (style) conservatory house  cost soooo much to heat?

Secondly kids now'days I refer you to the following sketch...... true today as it has always been

Monty Python's Flying Circus -
"Four Yorkshiremen"

I rest my case ☺️
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 27, 2022, 10:06:16 PM
Sorry, Richard, but I didn't know whether to use the 'funny' or 'sad' rate so used both.
£675 per month? :o  I shouldn't think Buckingham palace costs that much :no: :D
Mind you, Her Maj does get £300 or so winter fuel allowance on that.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on February 28, 2022, 08:15:45 AM
I made a typo when inputting my meter readings a few years ago and got a £1400 bill. Scottish Power must have thought I had started up an Aluminium smelter in the back garden. Took several phone calls to sort it out.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 28, 2022, 10:03:40 AM
How did they discover aluminium?
They tell me they smelt it.

(Taxi for Nobby)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on February 28, 2022, 10:05:36 AM
We have a mobile home in the garden, EVERY year they come up with a huge estimate of the following years Bill. Last year it was used for two weeks when relatives came for a visit.. This years estimated Bill over £1000...
All it has on the rest of the time is the frost guard heater, in the kitchen and the water boiler also set to frost..
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on March 01, 2022, 05:35:57 PM
Just had an email from British Gas concerning the price increase after Ofgen raised the price cap. Just the 63% increase for us! Time to put on an extra jumper and have the heating on even less :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on March 01, 2022, 10:18:14 PM
I'm thinking about getting thicker tights. Nothing to do with the heating cost as you should see the price of them  :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 03, 2022, 03:50:29 PM
yet again, the amazon scam is going the rounds
'if you don't pay £79 you amazon account will be cancelled. if you want to retain your amazon account select option 1 to speak to a customer services agent'

right, I don't have an amazon account, I don't want an amazon account, and I am not so stupid that I'd select an option from your message which would most likely link me to a number charging £10 a second.

when, oh when, are the companies who produce these scams actually going to be dealt with ?

there are some people who will lose hundreds, if not thousands through these scams
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on March 04, 2022, 02:20:45 PM
Quote from: TrevL on September 24, 2021, 12:16:59 PM
I have two pensions, Old Age, from the government, and RAF, also for the government, these are my only incomes.
So how come HMRC, a government agency,  can manage to get my tax code wrong and I end up owing them £400plus???
This of course has to be paid back, so they are now going to adjust my tax code so they can get it back over next 12 months, leaving me an extra £35 a month out of pocket.  Why didn't they just get it right in the first place?? :dunce: (insert expletive of your own choice) :veryangry: :veryangry: :censored: :censored:

Carrying on from this, I apparently owe HMRC a little over £2000, which equates to £40 a week I'll be worse off, I'd really like to know who is responsible for this monummental high level chicken? :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on March 04, 2022, 06:13:23 PM
I also have two pensions from the UK, Old Age and Police.  A few years ago, I received notification that I had underpaid by about £200 the previous year, so they took it back the following year by adjusting my tax code. The year after that, I was notified that I had over paid in the year in which I was paying back the under payment.  Work that one out! ???. As you say Trev  :censored: :censored:.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on March 04, 2022, 07:14:31 PM
I had a similar  phone call to  say my Amazon account had been debited by £769 I asked him whos account ? He said your account ,so I asked him who he thought he was talking to ?
He said Sir it is your account .
I said how do you even know who I am he said because we have rung your number on the account and want to confirm that the transaction is correct .
I told him it couldnt be MY account as I dont even have one so why dont you go and get a proper job instead of harassing people ,he said well Sir now that your account has had that  amount  debited we will take it you approve ,thankyou if you need to contact a supervisor press 1 Which is when I had enough fun trying to,wind  him up and put the phone down .
Its about time something was really done to stop these scammers once and for all .
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 05, 2022, 11:14:34 AM
In the good old days of dial telephones, our switchboard used to get occasional obscene phone calls. The operators had a small box that they used to hold near the mouthpiece and press a button. It emitted a tone that caused the exchange to send ringing volts (17hz at 80v) down the line into the ear of the offender.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on March 05, 2022, 11:37:13 AM
Quote from: Malc on March 05, 2022, 11:14:34 AM
In the good old days of dial telephones, our switchboard used to get occasional obscene phone calls. The operators had a small box that they used to hold near the mouthpiece and press a button. It emitted a tone that caused the exchange to send ringing volts (17hz at 80v) down the line into the ear of the offender.

Nice! :thumbsup:

Would an air horn have a similar dissuasive effect, or would I just damage my phone mic?  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 05, 2022, 12:11:34 PM
You would probably damage your mic. The advantage of the old system was that 17hz at 80v in your earpiece makes their ears ring without affecting your phone at all.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on March 05, 2022, 12:25:40 PM
Thanks for that info Malc.  :thumbsup:

I'll just have to stick to the sporty approach of keeping them on the line for as long as possible while I do something else. :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: woodbury22uk on March 05, 2022, 12:47:21 PM
I have a Tomy Sound Spray which looks like a small aerosol can but emits a selection of sounds. My favourite is the police siren which, held close to the phone mouthpiece seems to get unwelcome callers to hang up. Reserved for persistent international callers using false local number caller IDs. Mostly they just get the answering machine, but occasionally the Sound Spray gets some exercise.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 05, 2022, 01:03:20 PM
unfortunately mine have been computer generated rather than human, but I do tend to just leave the phone on, and hopefully bump up the scammer's phone bill.

if they have one.
I would welcome the chance to discuss these with a human, you can guess the 'tone' that would be taken. >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Gwalton on March 05, 2022, 02:45:31 PM
I was receiving loads of phone calls asking if I have been involved in a car accident etc, I now ignore and block them, some are mobiles and others landlines.

I just google the numbers after they have rung off because there is a site which you can check them on. https://who-called.co.uk/
https://who-called.co.uk/Number/01387461006

If you have a smart phone then you can block them but in days they will use another number and try again. I only answer numbers I know.

We don't have a landline but for those who do, then I guess its a nightmare if you can't see who is calling you. 

No one is going to give you anything for free these days and these phone scams are on the increase.

Last year there was an elderly guy I know who was about to send £200.00 to someone because they had contacted him about a room he had to let, she had sent him a cheque (from her alleged new employer in the UK) for more than the 1st months rent and deposit bond and asked him to send the difference to her via western union money transfer. I told him not to send anything because I knew the cheque would bounce, a few days later, the bank returned a photocopy of the cheque informing him the cheque book it had come out was reported as being stolen.

People need to be careful these days and not so trusting.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 05, 2022, 03:50:36 PM
used to get those 'our records show you were involved in an accident', but for some reason not had one for ages....

couldn't be because the last time I :

asked for a reference number
asked for an e-mail for a response
explained that the MOD police, local county police, and Military police had all decided that I was not to blame, and that if the other driver had not parked his car on the tank ranges, I would not have driven my Challenger MBT over it
then offered to get my Regimental police detachment to get back to them

hello, hello  ?

oops, they seemed to hang up  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 07, 2022, 02:53:39 PM
back where I belong, yet again....

today's subject "bus drivers and public transport"..

"they" want us to use public transport, but make it as inconvenient as possible.

younger daughter with two grandsons were coming down on the bus to borrow my car for a few days, her power steering pump has gone. [sorry, her car's power steering pump has gone  :-[]

she gets on the bus, contactless card payment only, and her card won't work.
is there a slot for card + pin, of course not.

she checks on her phone and there is sufficient money on the card

comment from driver "you'll have to get off, you're holding me up".

in my day as an OMO on Southdown that would have got me an interview with the duty inspector, but of course in those days we took cash, and had change machines.

apparently, from my call to Metrobus, they do still take cash, but don't give change, just a credit for another journey.

'can I lodge this as a complaint ?'
'err, no we don't know if it is a fault with her card or our system, is she with you'

'what part of your driver told her to get off the bus did you not understand ?'

'can she give us a call when she gets there and we can talk about it'

I get in my car, drive from A to B, subject to roadworks, potholes etc, it seems on the very public transport sytem 'they' want us to use, they have no respect or consideration for passengers, but of course thay have free wi-fi  :veryangry:

no wonder no one wants to give up using their car to use public transport.

no where is that bottle of Scottish Water  :beers:

update:
got on the following bus where card worked with no problems.

guess there will be another call to Metrobus so called customer service, and you do not want to hear the recording of that call.

public transport, you jest.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on March 09, 2022, 07:18:59 PM
I received an email from Shell Energy today to say I need to up my direct debit. Considering my DD was £108 until late last year I think £259 may be a bit over the top even with the increases we have been warned about. And all this when Shell are making an *estimated 6.9 billion million pounds of profit each day!  :veryangry:

*That's my estimate by the way
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on March 09, 2022, 08:03:59 PM
Quote from: class37025 on March 07, 2022, 02:53:39 PM

today's subject "bus drivers and public transport"..


I remember the days when you got on a bus and if you did not have enough cash, (no cards in them days), you gave the Conductor, (what happened to them?), your name and address and you got a slip of paper from the Conductor and went to the bus company offices the next day and paid the outstanding amount.

Okay, I will take the rose tinted spec's off now.  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on March 09, 2022, 08:17:07 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on March 09, 2022, 07:18:59 PM
And all this when Shell are making an *estimated 6.9 billion million pounds of profit each day!  :veryangry:


According to t'internet, Shell made a profit of $6.4 billion in the last quarter of 2021.  :o :goggleeyes:.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on March 09, 2022, 08:27:15 PM
Well, that has really cheered me up, thanks for that  :*(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on March 10, 2022, 08:54:42 AM
Quote from: dannyboy on March 09, 2022, 08:17:07 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on March 09, 2022, 07:18:59 PM
And all this when Shell are making an *estimated 6.9 billion million pounds of profit each day!  :veryangry:


According to t'internet, Shell made a profit of $6.4 billion in the last quarter of 2021.  :o :goggleeyes:.
At least with Shell moving to Britain, HMG will get a nice little increase in tax income..
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on March 10, 2022, 08:59:32 AM
Quote from: The Q on March 10, 2022, 08:54:42 AM
Quote from: dannyboy on March 09, 2022, 08:17:07 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on March 09, 2022, 07:18:59 PM
And all this when Shell are making an *estimated 6.9 billion million pounds of profit each day!  :veryangry:


According to t'internet, Shell made a profit of $6.4 billion in the last quarter of 2021.  :o :goggleeyes:.
At least with Shell moving to Britain, HMG will get a nice little increase in tax income..

I'll have a Mod move that last post, this isn't the 'joke' thread.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on March 10, 2022, 12:40:31 PM
Now I know why car insurance is so high!

Earlier this week my wife's parked car was hit by a truck - hit being rather an over-emphasis ... a rubber mounted sidelight caught the edge of the rear bumper and just peeled the plastic panel away, with no damage to the rest of the car.

I can source brand new plastic bumpers, painted to match the car for £276 and a replacement fog-light lens for £15. Everything simply clips or screws into place.

The truck's insurer has already contacted me and declared the car "not economically repairable" and offered to write it off, paying us £1677 or let us keep the car to repair ourselves, giving us £1677 minus 20 to 28%.

So a repair that should be under £500 (including labour) is too expensive, but giving us £1207 to £1341 instead isn't?

They have a weird grasp of money and maths  :confused1:

It's not as if the delay is costing them money funding a hire car for us while awaiting repairs, as we can do with just my car and have rejected a hire car.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 10, 2022, 12:47:03 PM
personally I'd take their money, buy loads of N guage  >:D , and then get the repair done by a local garage.
excess cash on one side for a rainy day.  :angel:

BUT

I do not know the proceedure / cost of then returning the car to the road. this is where there may be a problem.

others will have more knowledge on this.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on March 10, 2022, 02:42:56 PM
Quote from: class37025 on March 10, 2022, 12:47:03 PM

I do not know the proceedure / cost of then returning the car to the road. this is where there may be a problem.


I also do not know what the procedure is these days, but if a car is 'written off' by an insurance company, it used to be extremely difficult to get it insured again. Obviously, it can be done. but ...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on March 14, 2022, 11:42:16 AM
It will come under category N, which is cosmetic damage. Repair would involve only unbolting/unclipping the plastic cover on the bumper, unplugging and removing the fog and reversing lights, obtaining and painting a replacement plastic panel and reassembly. There is no structural damage and the replacement would return it to better condition than prior to the damage!

The current insurers have confirmed that they'd not even take the write -off into consideration when looking to re -insure. No difficulty and no increased premiums.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 14, 2022, 12:21:59 PM
I wonder what your decision will be  :hmmm: :hmmm: >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 16, 2022, 11:43:37 AM
Had to have a rant at a Tesco person this morning. Our Tesco 'Extra' is a decent sized place selling clothing and household goods as well as foodstuffs, and has about a dozen tills over and above the automated machine thingies. Only 2 tills were 'personed' and queues were everywhere, with some just abandoning trolleys/baskets of produce and walking out in disgust. If I hadn't needed some things in my trolley I'd have done the same. "I'm very sorry" just doesn't cut it, Tesco :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on March 16, 2022, 12:29:34 PM
Went in our nearest extra (20+ miles from home), the other day, noticed they too had reduced staff on the tills, I wonder whether it's a decree from head office and the local staff are just getting the crap for it..
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 16, 2022, 02:36:51 PM
somewhat baffled..

news last night said price of oil had gone DOWN and fuel prices should follow...

but

went into Tesco today and their diesel has gone UP another 10p a litre.

re the comments on tills, I always self scan as I shop, it's easier then to see when they have cross filled items but not removed or turned over the price tags.

xx at £1 - scan £2.25  >:(

you then find that the £1 item is out of stock, no OOS label of course, and they have just filled the space with another, similar, more expensive item.

I have yet to find they have cross filled with a cheaper one  :hmmm:

in a recent ITV news interview, the Tesco CEO said he expected prices to rise by 'the low to mid single figure percentage' but a few days later I was in the local Tesco, and their own coke had gone up up from 50p to 60p..  :hmmm:

that was 20%.when I was at school.

wish my pensions went up at the same rate  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on March 16, 2022, 02:39:02 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on March 16, 2022, 11:43:37 AM
Had to have a rant at a Tesco person this morning. Our Tesco 'Extra' is a decent sized place selling clothing and household goods as well as foodstuffs, and has about a dozen tills over and above the automated machine thingies. Only 2 tills were 'personed' and queues were everywhere, with some just abandoning trolleys/baskets of produce and walking out in disgust. If I hadn't needed some things in my trolley I'd have done the same. "I'm very sorry" just doesn't cut it, Tesco :veryangry:

Like many stores staff are the expensive element so numbers are regularly cut. My wife works in clothing retail where the store now runs on a quarter of the staff it used to 5 years ago and they are constantly under pressure but if it makes you feel good ranting at a member of staff who has zero control then fill your boots and make their day even worse!
If you want to have a go talk to their HO not some random member of staff already overworked and probably on minimum wage, my wife is.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 16, 2022, 04:51:23 PM
Quote from: thebrighton on March 16, 2022, 02:39:02 PM

If you want to have a go talk to their HO not some random member of staff already overworked and probably on minimum wage, my wife is.

I have mailed the 'Boss' man of Tesco who mails me telling me what they're doing for me. Do I expect a response? That'll be a 'No', then.
If someone works 'front of house' they should be prepared for flak when things are such a shambles, just like I had to do as a representative of my company. I couldn't just say "Don't tell me. Tell my MD" as that would have resulted in a P45. I just had to suck it up.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on March 16, 2022, 05:08:23 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on March 16, 2022, 04:51:23 PM

If someone works 'front of house' they should be prepared for flak when things are such a shambles, just like I had to do as a representative of my company. I couldn't just say "Don't tell me. Tell my MD" as that would have resulted in a P45. I just had to suck it up.

Sorry but what a load of tosh. So someone working in a shop on minimum wage, struggling to covet their bills etc who has zero influence over staffing etc has to to also put up with someone like you ripping into them?
No idea what your line of work was and don't care but I guess you weren't on a zero hour contract worried about how many hours you were going to get the following week or whether you'd be another cutback statistic.
Still, it makes people feel important tearing a strip of a defenceless people on the bottom rung. My wife has to regularly endure rants from people like you and, yes, she's on minimum wage and a part time contract. She has to suck it up as you suggest and has nowhere to go after an attack other than feel drained and worthless.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jmupton2000 on March 16, 2022, 05:10:54 PM
Dapol "Quality Control" makes me mad. Latest example the Strathclyde Class 156 which has just landed with the double arrows printed back to front!!!

Idiots!!!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on March 16, 2022, 05:28:02 PM
Re apparent staff shortages mentioned above:

Maybe it has something to do with the dramatic rise in Covid cases that are being recorded in UK - over 93,000 new cases reported on today, and large %age increase week on week. Staff in shops and supermarkets are in the firing line with all the maskless, carefree shoppers I'm noting in my local supermarkets, so perhaps there are increased absences due to ill health.

Just my three-halfpence worth.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NScaleNotes on March 16, 2022, 05:50:24 PM
Unlikely anything to do with COVID, most stores were and are still chronically understaffed regardless of how profitable the individual store is and that's before you get into all the other issues that cause most of the issues people complain about like out of stock and fluctuating prices.
In any case when the staff that are still there decide they've had enough of being overworked and abused by customers they leave and are rarely replaced immediately, if at all, when they move on.

How about instead of abusing shop staff people just shop somewhere else and stick to it, there's plenty of options.
I can't tell you how many times people say: "I'm never shopping there again", usually for some petty thing like something not being in stock or having to wait an extra couple of minutes in a queue but then would come back days, sometimes even the next day, because they can't be bothered to stick to it.
You're not achieving anything by doing that.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on March 16, 2022, 09:44:18 PM
The staff are the face of the company, so they will get the complaints - and hopefully pass them up to management, along with comments on how often it is happening. However, even when having a rant I usually apologise to the member of staff (often before complaining) that it is them receiving my complaint and that I know it is not a problem of their making.

I have boycotted one local shop and have kept to that for at least 10 years now (that WAS the actions and attitude of the staff).

I also stopped using a bank, but kept an account there, costing them money keep telling me of my 1 pound balance (being stupidly messed around with unnecessarily ridiculous applications of overly strict rules we'd just got married and they wouldn't add my wife to my account, despite having the marriage certificate, her new passport and ID and bills in her old name and address, because they insisted on a bill with our address on, but she'd only moved in when we married, so she had none).

The other one is a restaurant/bar, that on one occasion kept insisting that our 3 month old son, in his car seat had to be on a chair instead of the floor, despite advice being never to do that due to the danger of falling and on another occasion, when some idiot tipped a bench over, tipping a girl backwards and banging her head, leaving her semi-conscious, they tried to throw the girl out by dragging her down the stairs with her head banging on every step ... until we called for an ambulance, the police and the manager! We have never been back.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 17, 2022, 05:14:08 AM
Quote from: thebrighton on March 16, 2022, 05:08:23 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on March 16, 2022, 04:51:23 PM

If someone works 'front of house' they should be prepared for flak when things are such a shambles, just like I had to do as a representative of my company. I couldn't just say "Don't tell me. Tell my MD" as that would have resulted in a P45. I just had to suck it up.

Sorry but what a load of tosh. So someone working in a shop on minimum wage, struggling to covet their bills etc who has zero influence over staffing etc has to to also put up with someone like you ripping into them?
No idea what your line of work was and don't care but I guess you weren't on a zero hour contract worried about how many hours you were going to get the following week or whether you'd be another cutback statistic.
Still, it makes people feel important tearing a strip of a defenceless people on the bottom rung. My wife has to regularly endure rants from people like you and, yes, she's on minimum wage and a part time contract. She has to suck it up as you suggest and has nowhere to go after an attack other than feel drained and worthless.

It's good to know you have such a low opinion of me you think I would stoop to venting my anger on maybe a till operator or perhaps a person picking stock for home delivery. Whether this level of employee is on minimum wage or zero hours contracts I do not know. You seem to be the expert on such detail.
I did, in fact, take my complaint to the besuited Customer Service Manager (at least that's who I asked for) behind the appropriate desk. Hence my comment 'front of house'. Is that not where a complaint should be levelled? Again, I ask you as the expert.
As far as I know, you were not present and therefore have no clue as to what actually occurred but have made assumptions about my person which I resent.
Or is it, perhaps, the bag of Tesco chips nestled firmly on your shoulder?
Sadly, as I've always enjoyed your build threads, you are now the sole occupant of my 'Ignore' list as I have no intention of playing forum 'tennis' with you
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: ImpInaBox on March 17, 2022, 10:29:32 AM
Just to change the subject slightly... I've just had yet another email from Rails about a special offer 'exclusive' wagon - the Fisherman's Friend one - but it's OO gauge only.  Why do we never get these one-off specials in N gauge.  We're always the poor relation.  And in the spirit of all the above, I've emailed Rails to have a moan.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 17, 2022, 10:10:08 PM
am I the only one baffled by P&O's action today ?

as I always understood it, you did not make a person redundant, but the job that he did.

IIRC you could not 're-create' that job for IIRC 6 months after it had been made redundant.

so, how can you 'sack' hundreds of workers 'on the grounds of redundancy' and have replacements waiting on the dockside to take over their jobs ?

or do workers no longer have any rights ?
or do overseas owners not have to comply with the laws of the countries they operate in ?
:censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 18, 2022, 12:47:42 PM
I've already posted on another forum that I believe P & O's action to be not only heartless, cruel and cowardly but, like you, believe it also to be illegal.
I'm not debating whether or not some kind of action is necessary to save the company but it's the way they have gone about it that my comments above refer to.
No doubt there will now be panic buying as folks see footage of lorries stranded everywhere
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Train Waiting on March 18, 2022, 01:32:38 PM
There is an exemption from 'normal' UK employment law for people classed as 'seafarers' whose employment and other rights are governed by the Maritime Labour Convention, which came into force in the UK in 2014.  I have a feeling we will hear a lot more about this over the next few days while people attempt to work out if this, in my view, very badly-handled situation is legal or not.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 18, 2022, 01:45:36 PM
What I don't understand about P &O is their logic. When I was a manager and had to hire agency staff to cover an unexpected shortage, they cost more than my regular staff. The actual workers were on roughly the same rate but the agency costs put the price up. Since there are no cheap foreign workers anymore because of you know what, how will it work?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 18, 2022, 01:46:51 PM
discussing this with a neighbour, he said he understood that P&O ferries were owned by a Dubai company, and are separate from P&O cruises which are apparently owned by a US company.

however ...
do they not operate under the red duster, ie operate as UK merchant vessels ?

if so, surely they should be subject to the rules of the country who's flag they fly ?

I cannot but wonder who supplies the 'agency' crews.

no doubt this will carry on for some while, I just feel sorry, as well as for the 'sacked' crews, for those people who decided that with a good forecast for the weekend decided to pop across the ENGLISH Channel for a weekend break, and now cannot.

whatever happened to Sealink ?
I wonder how long it will take them to get their money back.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 18, 2022, 02:54:01 PM
Quote from: Malc on March 18, 2022, 01:45:36 PM
What I don't understand about P &O is their logic. When I was a manager and had to hire agency staff to cover an unexpected shortage, they cost more than my regular staff. The actual workers were on roughly the same rate but the agency costs put the price up. Since there are no cheap foreign workers anymore because of you know what, how will it work?

I remember when I was on the AA I went out to a nurse at PRH, and while chatting it turned out she had been made redundant, and was now an agency nurse.

she had finished on a friday on her ward, and was back on the same ward on the monday, as an agency nurse, but could not do some of the things she had been able to do as an NHS nurse because she was agency.
and she was still on about the same pay, and as you say, the agency then charge on top.

really makes sound economic sense, doesn't it  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: woodbury22uk on March 18, 2022, 04:34:45 PM
Certainly many of the Dover crews have contracts of employment based in Jersey, which will affect the legal aspects. I suspect that customer reaction will convince P&O Ferries that they may have misjudged the market. There is plenty of spare capacity on the other ferries and Eurotunnel vehicle shuttles on the Dover Straits. Admittedly fewer alternatives for the other UK routes.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 18, 2022, 05:21:13 PM
I may be being sceptical [what, me ?? :D ]
but is the main advantage of using agency staff that you don't need to worry about sick pay, holiday pay etc, it's just a case of 'I am paying for 20 bodies, you supply them'  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: cycletrak9 on March 18, 2022, 05:47:44 PM
Not quite sure whether to put this on the angry thread as I'm not really angry or on jokes as it is rather amusing. What I really need is a thread for "Bemused and totally baffled"

We have a contract with British Gas to cover household breakdowns and part of this is an annual boiler check. Last December I got a reminder that it was due and booked on line for 10 January 2022. The date duly arrived but no sign of an engineer. After half an hour of trying to negotiate the BG website I gave up and re-booked for 7 March but again no sign of the engineer. Somewhat incensed I got on to BG via an "online chat". I explained that I'd been let down twice and was a bit miffed. A third appointment was arranged for 14 March which this time was kept and the boiler pronounced sound of wind and limb.
This morning I have received a letter from BG dated 4 March telling me that the appointment has been rearranged for 11 March and apologising for any convenience!

I have to say that I'm happy with BG for the supply side of things but their admin brings to mind the words "booze up" and "Brewery" 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on March 18, 2022, 09:25:05 PM
Quote from: Malc on March 18, 2022, 01:45:36 PM
What I don't understand about P &O is their logic. When I was a manager and had to hire agency staff to cover an unexpected shortage, they cost more than my regular staff. The actual workers were on roughly the same rate but the agency costs put the price up. Since there are no cheap foreign workers anymore because of you know what, how will it work?

The figures quoted in the news tonight were that British crew are paid up to £28 per hour, while the replacement Eastern European crew are paid only £2.60 per hour ... so there is lots of leeway for agency fees, while still being significantly cheaper.

I can understand ocean-going crew being under different pay rules than land-based workers, but for a ferry, going back and forth between two countries, surely they should be paying the going rates for at least one of those countries and not the exploitative, pitifully low wages of a third country?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 18, 2022, 09:48:28 PM
Quote from: stevewalker on March 18, 2022, 09:25:05 PM

The figures quoted in the news tonight were that British crew are paid up to £28 per hour, while the replacement Eastern European crew are paid only £2.60 per hour ... so there is lots of leeway for agency fees, while still being significantly cheaper.


If that's correct it's just atrocious, especially with a national minimum wage of £9.50 (over 23s) and is pure exploitation of desperate people :o
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on March 18, 2022, 10:00:05 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on March 18, 2022, 09:48:28 PM

If that's correct it's just atrocious, especially with a national minimum wage of £9.50 (over 23s) and is pure exploitation of desperate people

And if it is correct, the 'agency' ( :hmmm:) will probably be based in a country that has never heard of minimum wage.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: acook on March 19, 2022, 01:27:27 AM
Re: "Agency" workers:
The advantage to a business is no National insurance,Employer or employee,  tax, sick, holiday, or in fact any "payroll processing" at all.
As it happens, P & O Ferries is registered at Companies house, no. 237626.
The last filing that is accessible says in the year to 31/12/2019 they lost £69M and in the year to 31/12/2020 they made £63M profit.
There is also mention of the pension schemes, there are final salary(Defined benefit) schemes which are causing them a bit of grief.
When covid hit they applied and got a pension contribution holiday.
This is something else using "agency " workers means you do not have to involve yourself in.
Notwithstanding seafaring rules being different to landbased, anybody paying £2.60 an hour in a supposedly civilised society needs stringing up, not necessarily by the neck.

Alan(ex Construction so redundant more times than most)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 19, 2022, 09:57:32 AM
not intended in any way as a 'political comment', but a question...

1. if the NHS cannot bring in overseas doctors and nurses as they used to
2. if the transport industry cannot bring in overseas drivers, as they used to
3  if the farmers can no longer bring in the seasonal overseas workers they used to

then how can P&O bring in 800 'eastern european' workers and pay them poverty wages ?

something is seriously wrong with this world.

the sceptical me can't help but wonder if the £2.60 an hour is before or after deductions for food and accomodation charges  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest311 on March 23, 2022, 05:10:17 PM
well, I've worked out why their Tesco price increase were not, as commented on tv by their CEO, in the low to mid 5%...

went into local Tesco today, and they are all getting new uniforms...

not the old dark blue..

now a bright blue..

isn't it nice to know that while prices rise, over inflation, the reason is at one retailer because they need to give their staff a new uniform !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

one staff member I spoke to said she'd ordered a new top, which arrived last week in the old style dark blue, then she'd received her new bright blue uniform, or at least part of it, a few days later.

nice to know that these CEOs have their priorities right, isn't it. obviously the priority to give staff a new uniform outweighs the cost to customers.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

still, no doubt his pension is secure, unlike the staff he is supposed to look after.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on March 24, 2022, 07:59:43 AM
One minor point is the cash they are paid is not all they get.. because of course they get free food and accommodation while on board.

The imported labour are allowed because they are at sea, not employed in the UK.

The  agency staff will probably stay on board for 24 / 7 for maybe 3 months at a time, then go home for a month before returning..

They are likely to have effectively 2 crews on board at any time, one shift on duty the other off duty..
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on March 24, 2022, 09:29:06 AM
I see no problem with Tesco staff having new uniforms.  Uniforms wear out and need to be replaced regularly to maintain a good image to the public, and I suspect when it came to making a new major corporate order for uniforms it was considered a good time to make an image change and make their staff more visible in a lighter, brighter blue (especially in the darker colder days of winter when most of the great British public seem to be wearing similar dark colours to the 'old' uniform). There is also the possibility that the new uniforms may be being supplied under a better, cheaper contract cost from either the existing supplier or a new one.

Tesco, like any other business, will always carefully manage their operating overheads, especially when they are in a very competitive market.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: javlinfaw7 on March 24, 2022, 10:01:40 AM
Quote from: The Q on March 24, 2022, 07:59:43 AM
One minor point is the cash they are paid is not all they get.. because of course they get free food and accommodation while on board.

The imported labour are allowed because they are at sea, not employed in the UK.

The  agency staff will probably stay on board for 24 / 7 for maybe 3 months at a time, then go home for a month before returning..

They are likely to have effectively 2 crews on board at any time, one shift on duty the other off duty..
How does that go for the Cairnryan to Larne route being totally in British territorial waters
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on March 24, 2022, 11:21:35 AM

Quote from: javlinfaw7 on March 24, 2022, 10:01:40 AM
Quote from: The Q on March 24, 2022, 07:59:43 AM
One minor point is the cash they are paid is not all they get.. because of course they get free food and accommodation while on board.

The imported labour are allowed because they are at sea, not employed in the UK.


The  agency staff will probably stay on board for 24 / 7 for maybe 3 months at a time, then go home for a month before returning..

They are likely to have effectively 2 crews on board at any time, one shift on duty the other off duty..
How does that go for the Cairnryan to Larne route being totally in British territorial waters
It comes under the various merchant shipping acts, which are in line with international agreements..
At least that's What P +O are hoping.

As for Tesco Uniforms, I hope the In Store Technicians uniforms aren't changed for those guys' I was one once and you get very dirty as it is with the dark blue...

In store technicians, look after the maintenance of fridges, lighting, and general building repairs. Customers can manage to destroy anything, and many of the staff aren't that far behind..
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on March 24, 2022, 11:30:21 AM
I just booked a hire car for one day from Birmingham airport.

Cost : £188 (for a VW Polo).

:*(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 24, 2022, 02:32:19 PM
Quote from: joe cassidy on March 24, 2022, 11:30:21 AM
I just booked a hire car for one day from Birmingham airport.

Cost : £188 (for a VW Polo).

:*(
Hope you don't intend to drive into the city, we now have a clean air charge. The monorail connects the airport to the station and trains to the city run frequently.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on March 24, 2022, 04:35:22 PM
No, I'll be going to Whitehouse Common, near Sutton Coldfield.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on March 24, 2022, 04:51:47 PM
Quote from: joe cassidy on March 24, 2022, 11:30:21 AM
I just booked a hire car for one day from Birmingham airport.

Cost : £188 (for a VW Polo).

:*(

:jawdropping:

One hopes it's inclusive of fuel and a chauffeur.

How the devil is it that expensive?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on March 24, 2022, 04:54:30 PM
I'm renting from Europcar.

Avis was even more expensive !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on March 24, 2022, 06:02:18 PM
Quote from: joe cassidy on March 24, 2022, 11:30:21 AM
I just booked a hire car for one day from Birmingham airport.

Cost : £188 (for a VW Polo).

:*(

Ouch! My wife's car was hit and damaged last week and the insurance company offered us a hire car (we didn't bother as we could easily do without her car for a couple of weeks) - they mentioned that it would cost them £18 per day!!!!

In fact, thinking about it, my last hire cost me £110 per day (13 months ago) and that was a 7.5t truck!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest10040 on April 20, 2022, 03:52:12 PM
OK, hands up, it didn't take long before I arrived in my previous home....

but...
TESCOs...

last week, thursday, I was detailed by SWMBO to go and do a shop....
list provided, 'just get what is on the list, and no bottles'  :-[
as if, but I have broad shoulders, and a shed, so I can sneak in a couple of bottles of scottish water  :beers:

on her list were 'tissues, cube' even I can manage that  :hmmm:

so down that aisle, and there they were, price tag £1.

took one and gunned it
£2.25  :veryangry:

removed the item, and looked around ...

ahh, those look like the ones she usually demands err gets, but priced at £3  :hmmm:
took one and gunned it ...80p

result, filled her requirement, and continued with my task.

but ...
when I got home, I had a thought, I know, a lonely place for a thought, and decided to call Tesco customer services and make them aware of the problem... after all, not everyone guns the shopping, some work it out in their head before they get to the till.

helpfull guy on the phone, understood my point, and said he would e-mail the store manager to make him aware of the problem.

sorted  :thumbsup: :hmmm:

yesterday I was agin detailed to shop   :thumbsdown:

and on arrival, the same situation re tissues was present....
found a member of staff and explained, suggesting that she get a manager to resolve it...

"I am a manager"

over to you then....

not totally confident, so went through the phone call again...
'I'll phone the duty manager and get him to resolve this straight away'

ohhh  :poop:
today, detailed again to shop @ Tesco.....

and guess what, all still the same in the tissue aisle  :*(

yet another call....
'I'd like to speak to a customer service manager regarding a formal complaint regarding one of your stores'
'I am a customer service manager'

so, for the third time, explained the problem, pointing out the possible embarrassment of customers at the till when their carefully added up total isn't anywhere near right.

outcome ?
supposedly, she is phoning the store manager  :D and passing on my complaint, took my e-mail address, and is going to ask the manager to e-mail me


so, the point of this.....

self scan AND CHECK THE LISTED PRICE AGAINST THE ACTUAL COST if you go to the Burgess Hill superstore.

some comments from this post have been redacted by HB... 'you are supposed to be calm' at least I think that was what he said / growled .  :-[
where is the 'don't hold your breath' emoji ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: daffy on April 20, 2022, 09:33:13 PM
And the moral to this story...

To err is Tesco, 'tis folly to complain.

  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on April 21, 2022, 08:42:17 AM
Placement of product and prices are all controlled by Tesco head office, everyday there are lists printed / displayed for every supermarket to follow.

What can happen is local staff forget / can't be bothered to change labels on the shelf. That depends on how well THE manager in charge of store, controls his staff..

Each department has it's own junior manager, they are all customer service managers..
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on April 24, 2022, 11:14:25 PM
What is going on in this country, everyone is trying to rip people off, no wonder its called rip off Britain.
I ordered a computer drive for collect and received a message awaiting stock, so I replied please cancel the order I will order a alternative. I collected the alternative drive, later I checked on the site and it said the invoice was completed for the nil stock item. Something fishy if you ask me, anyway I reported to Paypal and the shop, I got a refund the next day. A few days ago I bought digital W10 key off a supplier I have used several times, when I wanted to use it Microsoft told me the key had already been used, again I had paid using Paypal, and I got my refund today. I managed to buy another W10 key for £9.99 cheaper than the first one, so all is well now. we have also had the calls again this week on the telephone saying money has been transfered from your bank, plus the Amazon scam has well, does your head in.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on April 25, 2022, 09:48:32 AM
Too late for you now, but I use Unity Soft for any Microsoft software. Been using them for years with only one problem (my fault) that they sorted.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest10040 on April 30, 2022, 03:41:17 PM
ok, for those who remember, and did not like, my previous incarnation of class37025, this would be a good time to close this thread, and head to more serene areas of the forum.....


still here ?

today, both SWMBO and I received letters from the local district council regarding a petition regarding the so called 'northern arc'.. two letters, two lots of postage, to the same address, each with an enclosed SAE for a possible reply...

the northern arc is, for those not in the area, an unwanted, except by the council, development of over 3,500 houses, DO NOT ASK ABOUT  AFFORDABLE HOUSES, plus assorted industrial etc areas built on what was a green area between Burgess Hill, and Haywards Heath.

did it include any increases to the infrastructure in the area, ie reservoirs / waste disposal facilities ?

don't be stupid, you cannot make a profit from those.

new schools .... possibly, though not actually sure

new doctors surgeries ... mmmm possibly

we've all heard that before, supposed additions, which do not appear, and no areas undeveloped where they would / should have been.

so, in theory, you can go to the district council website, link in letter, and make your views known...

I forgot to mention, that with the new housing etc there will be new council tax, and Burgess Hill town council thought they would get it....
but obviously there were those in other local town / parish councils who set their eyes on it, and spoke to their 'friends' on the district council...

the result, this massive development on the outskirts of Burgess hill will now be allocated to Ansty & Staplefield parish council...
check google earth.

so B H TC got the hump, people out with clipboards 'we're going to lose money, your services will suffer etc'

so as a result of the 'petition' a review, and the issue at great cost of the letters.

make your views known on this link...

except  :veryangry:

after making a quite reasoned comment [what me  :-[] the linked MSDC site told me it could not link woith some other site to verify my response, and to refresh my page, which then wiped everything I spent ages writing.

so basically, my mate want to be a councillor, and get the expenses, so do not do anything to stop this, cause he's agreed to fit me a new kitchen FOC  :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on April 30, 2022, 05:17:28 PM
Quote from: Redcap244 on April 30, 2022, 03:41:17 PM
the northern arc is, for those not in the area, an unwanted, except by the council, development of over 3,500 houses, DO NOT ASK ABOUT  AFFORDABLE HOUSES, plus assorted industrial etc areas built on what was a green area between Burgess Hill, and Haywards Heath.

did it include any increases to the infrastructure in the area, ie reservoirs / waste disposal facilities ?

don't be stupid, you cannot make a profit from those.

new schools .... possibly, though not actually sure

new doctors surgeries ... mmmm possibly

How many new pubs ?

:)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest10040 on April 30, 2022, 05:53:01 PM
I never thought to ask that...

perhaps @trainfish would be a better person to answer that..

though, as little affordable housing declared, perhaps the question should be

"how many  yuppie wine bars"

seriously, though, would'nt it be nice to see infrastructure improvements made BEFORE the new housing, or am I being too innocent ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest10040 on May 06, 2022, 01:00:59 PM
censored DVLA  :veryangry:

my daughter applied last august to renew her driving licence, with a change of address, so she had to send a cheque with the payment.

yesterday she received a  letter from DVLA dated 28th April, postmarked 4th May, advising her that as her cheque was no longer valid due to it's date she needed to send a new payment within 10 days.

slight problem, the returned cheque had DVLA date stamps on the back for 15th oct 2021, 01 feb 2022, and 02 feb 2022,

"if you have any queries do not hesitate to contact me on the above telephone number"

unfortunately, when you ring it it cuts off straight away, and on a mobile to get the message 'no response'.

so it looks as though they are even more useless than the passport office.

and of course she can't get a cheque to them within the 10 days quoted in the letter, because it sat for several days in their post room before someone could be bothered to actually frank it  :veryangry:

looks like HB is going to get a second walk while I try to calm down before round 2 with DVLA.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest10040 on May 06, 2022, 01:21:30 PM
oh, and don't start me on the use of Covid as an excuse for poor service, it's not a problem, the governments says so, while of course using it on it's own sites as an excuse.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on May 06, 2022, 02:05:48 PM
Can your daughter not drive to the DVLA with a new cheque? That way she can get it there within the 10 days. Oh, hang on ........ maybe not, as she needs a driving licence to drive a car.  :hmmm:

It's almost laughable.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest10040 on May 06, 2022, 03:01:41 PM
I've already got away with an almost political comment, so I'll leave it at that.

by the way, HB caught a mouse  :thumbsup:

then dropped it when it started wriggling  :thumbsdown:

back to Tesco for dog food by the look of it  :*(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest10040 on May 06, 2022, 04:52:54 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on May 06, 2022, 02:05:48 PM
Can your daughter not drive to the DVLA with a new cheque? That way she can get it there within the 10 days. Oh, hang on ........ maybe not, as she needs a driving licence to drive a car.  :hmmm:

It's almost laughable.

and possibly a passport to get into Wales  :*(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 06, 2022, 04:55:10 PM
Owing to people using WFH (work from home for anyone wondering) many gents outfitters have ceased selling suits. Yesterday I drove around using valuable expensive fuel trying to source one as I have a solemn occasion next Tuesday to attend. I ended up with trews and a sports jacket.
If I'd started the search earlier maybe I could have gone online but I hadn't realised just how big my boobs and belly had got :o :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on May 06, 2022, 04:57:35 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on May 06, 2022, 04:55:10 PM
Owing to people using WFH (work from home for anyone wondering) many gents outfitters have ceased selling suits. Yesterday I drove around using valuable expensive fuel trying to source one as I have a solemn occasion next Tuesday to attend. I ended up with trews and a sports jacket.
If I'd started the search earlier maybe I could have gone online but I hadn't realised just how big my boobs and belly had got :o :-[

Ah, the old 'moobs' problem,...

...and the 'six pack' 'party barrel'.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest10040 on May 06, 2022, 05:01:51 PM
actually managed to get to a 'bot' ???? which when I mentioned 'complaint' put me on a queue at 4:26:42

surprise, still waiting at 16:59

what is it with these government departments ?

obviously not fit for purpose, and the usual
Due to the COVID-19 pandemic we are busier than usual and we apologise for any delay this has caused. We will answer your query as soon as possible.

Thanks for your patience.

as if they actually care :censored:

flask filled, and lunch box, as we know where I'm going to be going  :*(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 06, 2022, 05:11:05 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on May 06, 2022, 04:57:35 PM
...and the 'six pack' 'party barrel'.

At least I can gaze upon it and think "All my own work" :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on May 06, 2022, 05:18:25 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on May 06, 2022, 05:11:05 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on May 06, 2022, 04:57:35 PM
...and the 'six pack' 'party barrel'.

At least I can gaze upon it and think "All my own work" :laugh:

Not so much Rembrandt,...

...more, Picasso?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on May 06, 2022, 06:16:05 PM
I thought they were called  "Party Sevens".  That's why you look "odd" Mick :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 06, 2022, 08:15:05 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on May 06, 2022, 05:18:25 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on May 06, 2022, 05:11:05 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on May 06, 2022, 04:57:35 PM
...and the 'six pack' 'party barrel'.

At least I can gaze upon it and think "All my own work" :laugh:

Not so much Rembrandt,...

...more, Picasso?

Nah - I struggle to reach that bit

Quote from: TrevL on May 06, 2022, 06:16:05 PM
I thought they were called  "Party Sevens".  That's why you look "odd" Mick :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

It's OK for you, Trev. I've seen more fat on a butcher's pencil!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 06, 2022, 10:19:20 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on February 24, 2022, 02:29:31 PM
Surprise, surprise - I had an e mail from my power supplier telling me prices would be rising.
Gasp. Horror. Shock! Probe!
I've been living under a rock for the past year and didn't know this ::)
I tried to call them but I guess whoever was working from home that day had gone out, so I mailed them a reply today...........

Hi,
I tried to phone yesterday and that was an exercise in futility as after 21 minutes listening to the twanging music I threw the phone at the wall and retired to a mental institution.
I have changed my monthly DD to £85 as I expected prices to rise and will keep an eye on things.
Please don't bang on to me about smart meters. I have had your smart meters for about 4 years or so now and it was you, E.ON, who informed me they were no longer compatible with your new 'Next' systems. You asked if I wanted smart meters and when I replied "Yes" you told me they were not available yet.
Maybe you'd like to give me an update on that situation.
Yours unhappily


Every mail I get from EON tells me to get a meter reading but I've been telling them the meters are just blank so I can't get a reading. After the latest epistle from them on Monday I shouted back at them i.e. used BOLD CAPITAL LETTERS IN LARGE CASE.
Lo and behold I had a reply telling me exactly how I can get a reading by pressing 6 four times and the first number that gets displayed is the meter reading. If you miss it, you have to wait for all sorts of ordure to scroll past until it comes round again.
If only someone who knows what they're doing had told me this over a year ago ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on May 06, 2022, 11:04:46 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on May 06, 2022, 10:19:20 PM
If only someone who knows what they're doing had told me this over a year ago ::)

If you had asked me a year ago.............................  ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on May 06, 2022, 11:24:40 PM
I've been with EON since October and November (gas and electric were with two different companies that failed). They keep asking me to have Smart meters installed and even that I have to have them as I have agreed to do so on the tariffs I am now on - except that they apparently still don't have a way to merge the two separate accounts that they have created and I cannot have Smart meters installed until they have done so!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on May 07, 2022, 07:42:40 AM
Left Chez Bealman foe an hour yesterday afternoon, and came back to this, right outside.

Local council's latest mowing of the strip between the house and the creek. Gawd. What were they using? A tank?  :veryangry:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/122/255-070522063724-1225392212.jpeg)

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 07, 2022, 09:19:35 AM
Quote from: stevewalker on May 06, 2022, 11:24:40 PM
I've been with EON since October and November (gas and electric were with two different companies that failed). They keep asking me to have Smart meters installed and even that I have to have them as I have agreed to do so on the tariffs I am now on - except that they apparently still don't have a way to merge the two separate accounts that they have created and I cannot have Smart meters installed until they have done so!

I think it was May 2021 when EON became EONNext and they told me the smart meters I had (which EON had fitted) were incompatible with their new systems and that I'd need new meters.
I'm still waiting. :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on May 07, 2022, 09:26:35 AM
Quote from: Bealman on May 07, 2022, 07:42:40 AM
Left Chez Bealman foe an hour yesterday afternoon, and came back to this, right outside.

Local council's latest mowing of the strip between the house and the creek. Gawd. What were they using? A tank?  :veryangry:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/122/255-070522063724-1225392212.jpeg)

At a rough guess, one of these...

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/122/5604-070522092611.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=122545)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on May 07, 2022, 11:49:57 AM
Glad to hear you're out of the hospital George  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on May 07, 2022, 01:05:01 PM
SSE fitted a smart meter last May, but continued to send me estimated readings until November; it took three quarters of an hour on the phone to convince them to use their smart meter readings.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Catsick on May 17, 2022, 09:53:15 AM
Angry or bewildered...

When you list something on ebay as an auction at a price you have chosen as applicable that people can and should be able to read clearly and the flippers still ask you what price will you accept?.....    ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest10040 on June 01, 2022, 04:09:15 PM
OK, we all know how this will end .....

went down to Tesco today [grandson with us for a couple of days and he likes those fries in boxes rather than proper chips !

diesel up another 1p a litre, now £1.86.9p a litre, what a sod that I filled up at the Shell garage opposite PRH a couple of days ago at £1.78.9p a litre. suck on that Tesco.

deep pan own brand pizza, was £1, now £1.10
and so on, all around the store.

lastly, thought I'd better get SWMBO some flowers, well you have to now & then....
what was last week £3.50, now £4.50, but it does have a union jack sticker on it.

what a load of money grabbing, exploiting ******

and no, I got her flowers at the local BP garage, much better value.

Tesco used to claim the cheapest fuel prices, now just another money grabbing pile of  :poop:

did however get a pack of 'coffee pods', yes I have moved into the 21st century, and got a coffee maker, still cheaper than going to Starbucks, and no wait  :angel: to be served.

so, will I be joining the local street party  :hmmm:

no chance. HM didn't bother to turn up to my passing out parade, why should I celebrate the fact that she is still 'working' when most of us have been told to **** and retire.

move over, I have first dibs on which step I sit on  :bounce:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on June 01, 2022, 04:35:19 PM
Quite calm by your standards. Shame your nephew prefers fries to chips.  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest10040 on June 01, 2022, 04:39:35 PM
a couple of weeks ago I ordered some wargames figure [sorry, 20mm not proper scale] from a guy I've been using for years decades.

last friday, sent him an e-mail to ask how the order was progressing, and he replied he was on his way to the post office to post them 1st class.

today, still no delivery, and of course now you cannot phone your local delivery office, only the so called 'customer services' number.

"should have been received Saturday"
"wasn't"
"then should have arrived Monday"
"didn't, and still hasn't arrived today"

"it's delayed, not lost"

"sorry"

"won't be lost till 11th June"

amazing that the guy who sent me my order, Portsmouth to Burgess Hill, last friday, sent another order monday to New Zealand, which was delivered tuesday ....

back to him as the return address.

what is it with royal mail ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest10040 on June 01, 2022, 04:41:07 PM
Quote from: Bealman on June 01, 2022, 04:35:19 PM
Quite calm by your standards. Shame your nephew prefers fries to chips.  ;)

GRANDSON  :*( :*( :*( :*( :*( :*( :*( :*(
I know, what is wrong with proper chips  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on June 01, 2022, 04:44:38 PM
Hey, it's 1.42am here. I'm allowed stuff-ups  ;D

If it's any consolation, my granddaughter is the same.  :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 01, 2022, 04:48:21 PM
Nothing beats a packet of chips with salt vinegar and condiments in my opinion.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on June 02, 2022, 02:15:23 AM
Quote from: Redcap244 on June 01, 2022, 04:39:35 PM
........... sent him an e-mail to ask how the order was progressing, and he replied he was on his way to the post office to post them 1st class.

Yes, I know that feeling......................
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest10040 on June 22, 2022, 01:26:07 PM
noticed yesterday that I was running low / out of some paints and varnishes for my wargames vehicles, so popped an order off to Hattons.
as Royal Mail will not handle paints / glues etc, it needs to come by DPD 24hr delivery, which has gone up from £4 to £5,25% :censored:

anyway, got the e-mail from Hattons to say it had been packed, and an e-mail from DPD to say they had my parcel, it would be delivered today, and I would get a text today giving me my 1 hr delivery slot  :thumbsup:

then this morning the text messages started to arrive from DPD  :*(

"your parcel has been delayed due to unforeseen circumstances"
ok, it didn't get on the truck last night, be here tomorrow  :hmmm:

"your parcel will now be delivered friday the 24th"

err what  :veryangry:

phoned Hattons, and basically got the standard 'not our problem, down to DPD who are having system wide problems'
'refund of the next day payment, which I paid to you ?'
'sorry not our problem, you could try DPD'

the last time I found a phone number for DPD it cost £6 per minute :censored:

so, as you who know me, I am not a happy bunny.

25% increase in the charge, can't deliver the service paid for, seller has NFI, and the only access to DPD cost £6 a minute to be told how busy they are, how important my call is [to their profits] and that someone might actually answer before I need to take out a mortgage to pay for the  :censored: call.

looks like HB will be getting several walks today while I calm down.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on June 22, 2022, 01:51:29 PM
When you take Oscar for his walks Alan, wear a hat.  It'll keep the sun off your head, and make the steam come out of your ears. ;)
In all seriousness, that is appalling. >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on June 22, 2022, 01:52:00 PM
You have paid for the service Alan, so you are entitled to that service. As I understand it, your entire contract is with Hattons, so it is up to them to sort out the delivery.

Taken from the 'Citizens Advice' website -

It's the seller's responsibility to make sure items arrive on time and in good condition. If people pay extra for a next-day or other premium delivery service which doesn't arrive when expected they have the right to a refund of the difference between the standard delivery cost and the extra paid for premium delivery.

Get back on to Hattons and tell them that numerous members of the N Gauge Forum are now aware of this problem, so if they want a complimentary mention - "get it sorted".  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest10040 on June 22, 2022, 02:15:34 PM
ok, so just phoned Hattons again, and was told that they despatched on time, DPD has a nationwide problem, and I need to contact DPD customer services.
nothing to do with Hattons.

I did read the quote from Citizen Advice, but basically NFI, call DPD.

off for another walk with HB, hat firmly on, steam exhausting via aural orifices  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on June 22, 2022, 02:26:12 PM
Post on their Facebook face. Always the best way to get a better response as no business likes complaining customers on social media.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest10040 on June 22, 2022, 02:35:58 PM
unfortunately I don't do faceache, twitfeatures etc.

my only 'social media' is this forum, sad isn't it  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on June 22, 2022, 02:37:04 PM
Quote from: Redcap244 on June 22, 2022, 02:15:34 PM

nothing to do with Hattons.


Your contract is with Hattons. Unless of course, you told Hattons that you would arrange for DPD to collect the parcel and then contacted DPD and paid them to collect your parcel and deliver it to you. Of course not! If Hattons are aware of problems with DPD they should not be using them and certainly not taking customers money foir next day delivery. I am getting a bit annoyed on your behalf Alan - any room for another on your 'letting off steam' walk?  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on June 22, 2022, 02:40:28 PM
Quote from: Redcap244 on June 22, 2022, 02:35:58 PM
unfortunately I don't do faceache, twitfeatures etc.

Neither do I. Anybody with a FB account want to post a comment on Hattons page on behalf of Alan.  ???

In fact, thinking about it, do a dozen or so of you want to place a comment? That would certainly make them sit up and take notice!  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest10040 on June 22, 2022, 03:23:08 PM
come the revolution, comrades  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OffshoreAlan on June 23, 2022, 02:48:51 AM
Quote from: dannyboy on June 22, 2022, 02:40:28 PM
.... do a dozen or so of you want to place a comment? That would certainly make them sit up and take notice!  >:D

I can't seem to get it to allow me to post - probably my ignorance rather than anything more sinister. Sorry.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest10040 on June 23, 2022, 01:29:48 PM
following on from yesterday's DPD  / Hattons fiasco, where it ended up that my parcel was now being delivered friday, this morning I got a text to say it was being delivered today

luckily the one hour slot ended five minutes before we need to leave to get SWMBO up to the hospital for an appointment.

so now sorted, parcel delivered, and the reply to my question as to what the system wide problem was yesterday was...

what problem ?

HB, where is your lead  :*(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest10040 on June 24, 2022, 06:29:17 PM
OK, political comment ban rapidly approaching...

but am I the only one that is totally fed up with every time you phone a company / doctors surgery / hospital you get a five minute ramble about Covid, 'we are complying with the latest government advice re covid' etc...

go where you want, see who you want...
do what you want....
covid is over....
so why are so many companies / health authorities etc using covid as an excuse for poor service / not answering call / etc.

so, who is lieing to us, the UK authorities, or these companies / heath authorities etc who have found a great excuse for poor service. ?

jaffa cakes - tick
coffee - nato - tick
cushion, well at 76 my bum does get numb on a wooden naughty step  :-[

@Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) , may I sincerely thank you for your amendment to my original post.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on June 24, 2022, 07:01:01 PM
Phew! That was close Alan  ;D. But I agree that Covid is the 'go to' excuse these days for poor service.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 24, 2022, 08:54:28 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on June 24, 2022, 07:01:01 PM
But I agree that Covid is the 'go to' excuse these days for poor service.

And strangely enough, especially from GPs even if you can get past the GP receptionist which turns out to be a Herculean task I singularly fail to complete at every turn. ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on June 24, 2022, 11:09:18 PM
Just think back to before Covid and such phonecalls inevitably resulted in messages about "an unusually large volume of calls" or similar. Nothing has changed, other than the excuse.

You'll also find that if instead of calling a company's customer service number, you ring the sales number, there is little or no waiting!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Foonting on July 04, 2022, 12:18:00 PM
Prams - on pavements and in shops... or what we used to refer to as pushchairs:
Since the arrival of the McLaren when my own kids were small the humble pram/pushchair has grown like a Soviet athlete on steroids. Our local corner shop can only really host one of the modern crop of behemoths with knobbly 'off road' tyres and sockets for umbrellas and probably a gun turret/minibar too - yet at school go-home time three or four are generally crammed in (leaving no room for other customers). There seems to be an entitled attitude with both mothers and fathers that these T34s of the kinder transport world can take up disabled spaces on buses and tube trains as their progeny are clearly more important than anybody else or their comfort - oh, and they will glare at anyone who asks them to move - the very idea!.

Has the infantile obesity problem become so huge that our mewling descendants require reinforced mobile thrones to convey them about like latter day embodiments of spirit of Xerxes the Great?

Oh and god help you if a 'twin pram' bears down on you on a a narrow pavement ... you will have to leap to safety and take your chances with the traffic or be crushed under its wheels/tracks!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on July 04, 2022, 01:27:11 PM
I'd say that mothers often don't have much choice. Trying to hold onto a young child (or two), a change-bag, possibly shopping too and a folded pushchair at the the same time on a bus or train is nigh on impossible and they need to keep the pushchair unfolded and on its wheels to hold the child, change bag and shopping. They may also be forced to travel at fixed times to pick up and drop off a slightly older child and cannot wait for the next bus to keep the disabled area free - especially when they have to make that journey, each way, 10 times a week and so can't go earlier "in-case", because of so much lost time.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Foonting on July 04, 2022, 01:39:20 PM
Quote from: stevewalker on July 04, 2022, 01:27:11 PM
I'd say that mothers often don't have much choice. Trying to hold onto a young child (or two), a change-bag, possibly shopping too and a folded pushchair at the the same time on a bus or train is nigh on impossible and they need to keep the pushchair unfolded and on its wheels to hold the child, change bag and shopping. They may also be forced to travel at fixed times to pick up and drop off a slightly older child and cannot wait for the next bus to keep the disabled area free - especially when they have to make that journey, each way, 10 times a week and so can't go earlier "in-case", because of so much lost time.

This doesn't explain the burgeoning size of 'buggies'  :D or why they cost as much as a a small car and have the wheels of a motocross bike.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 04, 2022, 03:26:16 PM
There's an idea for Messrs Flintoff, Harris and McGuinness there :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Foonting on July 04, 2022, 05:14:02 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 04, 2022, 03:26:16 PM
There's an idea for Messrs Flintoff, Harris and McGuinness there :)
they could test the Baby Dior Stroller buggy ... a snip at £3600 ... bet it's great off road
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest10040 on July 04, 2022, 06:00:28 PM
hang on
£3,600 for a kids buggy ?

my Volvo XC70 only cost me £5,500, and it's lasted me, so far, over 10 years.

wonder how may yummy mummy's would buy these things if they had to pay pavement tax,

now there is an idea for  any Treasury>:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 04, 2022, 06:30:41 PM
Quote from: Redcap244 on July 04, 2022, 06:00:28 PM
hang on
£3,600 for a kids buggy ?

my Volvo XC70 only cost me £5,500, and it's lasted me, so far, over 10 years.


Yeah, but you can't (maybe read 'shouldn't') run your Volvo along the pavement and take it into shops :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on July 04, 2022, 06:59:02 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 04, 2022, 06:30:41 PM

Yeah, but you can't (maybe read 'shouldn't') run your Volvo along the pavement and take it into shops :no:

Or into model railway exhibitions!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest10040 on July 04, 2022, 07:42:17 PM
just getting my own back on the back-pack brigade  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest10040 on July 04, 2022, 07:53:09 PM
sorry, I thought the XC70 was an off road vehicle,  :D

keep death off the road, drive on the pavement !
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 13, 2022, 11:34:33 AM
I've now been on the phone to NHS Patient Transport Service (PTS) for 29 minutes with no sign of my call being answered. I'm told every 30 seconds they are busy and an adviser will answer as soon as possible. Yeah, right.
It's a freephone number but that's not the point. If they keep refusing to answer I'll have to cancel my op due for next Wednesday. :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 18, 2022, 09:31:34 AM
More  :poop:
Myself and my 2 sisters are executors of my Mother's will, sale of house etc. and I accept our ID needs to be verified. So far the entire world and its brother has accepted a certified copy of driving licence which the dear Post Office nobbles you £12.75 for, a simple matter of does my licence look like me - Yes?- hand over the dosh.
The Conveyancer we're using requested a certified copy of our driving licence so we all got that done. A week passes then they contact me again and say a Post Office one is not acceptable and we must get one signed by a solicitor/notary. Why not tell us that in the first place? Instead we run round like headless chickens spending dosh on something they won't accept :doh:
Only a few Post Offices know about certifying licences anyway. Others just look at you blankly and say 'we don't do licences - that's the DVLA' ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on July 18, 2022, 09:19:49 PM
Stick the license in his face and ask him if it looks like you. What a performance.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on July 18, 2022, 09:59:43 PM
Offer them the serial number of your pacemaker.  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on July 18, 2022, 10:45:34 PM
I've been saying for some time that we need government document handling offices in cities, where anyone can go, have their documents scanned and forwarded to government agencies and business as required, rather than sending physical documents off in the post, hoping that they arrive and that they don't end up in massive delays to be scanned in/dealt with or even just lost. Many people can wait months for documents to be returned, which they may need in the meantime and there is always the risk of total loss.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on July 18, 2022, 10:51:09 PM
Quote from: stevewalker on July 18, 2022, 10:45:34 PM
I've been saying for some time that we need government document handling offices in cities, where anyone can go, have their documents scanned and forwarded to government agencies and business as required, rather than sending physical documents off in the post, hoping that they arrive and that they don't end up in massive delays to be scanned in/dealt with or even just lost. Many people can wait months for documents to be returned, which they may need in the meantime and there is always the risk of total loss.

They have that service for people who have come to this country seeking naturalisation.  You pay a load of money and they will scan and authenticate your identity and documentation.  The problem would be the cost for a more general application.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: strain on July 18, 2022, 11:00:22 PM
Probably not the approved approach but I just send them my driving licence.  They have to send it back.  If it gets lost in the post it's £20 to get a new one from DVLA.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on July 19, 2022, 09:33:51 AM
Quote from: Snowwolflair on July 18, 2022, 10:51:09 PM
Quote from: stevewalker on July 18, 2022, 10:45:34 PM
I've been saying for some time that we need government document handling offices in cities, where anyone can go, have their documents scanned and forwarded to government agencies and business as required, rather than sending physical documents off in the post, hoping that they arrive and that they don't end up in massive delays to be scanned in/dealt with or even just lost. Many people can wait months for documents to be returned, which they may need in the meantime and there is always the risk of total loss.

They have that service for people who have come to this country seeking naturalisation.  You pay a load of money and they will scan and authenticate your identity and documentation.  The problem would be the cost for a more general application.

How much would it cost though? The offices, workers and equipment would all be shared between all the council/government departments, plus use by private companies paying a fee (banks without local branches, solicitors, estate agents, etc.) and it would mean fewer people needed in each department to sort post and move it around the system/scan it in. It should give economies of scale over lots of separate departments doing the same work, while also meaning that users only hand over their documents for a few minutes and have zero risk of them going astray, plus it would facilitate WFH as it would free up departments from having to see physical documents, in person.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on July 19, 2022, 09:38:02 AM
Quote from: strain on July 18, 2022, 11:00:22 PM
Probably not the approved approach but I just send them my driving licence.  They have to send it back.  If it gets lost in the post it's £20 to get a new one from DVLA.

But then you lose the ability to hire a car if it suddenly becomes necessary (I've had sudden deaths in the family mean booking flights and picking up a hire car the next day) and it could take weeks to get a replacement licence.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 19, 2022, 12:00:48 PM
Quote from: Malc on July 18, 2022, 09:19:49 PM
Stick the license in his face and ask him if it looks like you. What a performance.

Trouble is the conveyancer is in Manchester, Malc.
I totally agree with @stevewalker (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5329) suggestion. We have some warranties to send off such as FENSA certificates etc and I'm damned if I'm sending the originals so might get down to our estate agent and get them to scan the certificates and mail them off. At least the conveyancer should believe them.

Quote from: strain on July 18, 2022, 11:00:22 PM
Probably not the approved approach but I just send them my driving licence.  They have to send it back.  If it gets lost in the post it's £20 to get a new one from DVLA.

That wouldn't work as a solicitor has to have seen your licence and copy it onto their headed paper and sign it as being a true likeness.
Got the job done this morning by a solicitor who charged £10, as opposed to the Post Office who charge £12.75. Who'd have thought that?

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 22, 2022, 09:41:06 AM
'Angry' doesn't cover this one. I'm furious.
At the pre-op meeting in Blackpool 4.7.22 I was informed after my op I wouldn't be able to drive for a week. "Fine with me" I thought. "Probably won't be up to it, anyway"
Exhibit 'A', M'Luds...............

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/124/264-220722092759-124334596.jpeg)

On that basis, I accepted gladly an invitation to drive to Scotland on 3rd August and stay with a certain @Lawrence (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=16) for a few days, drive back and next day is the Leyland Show. A great break from all the stuff to do with selling Mother's house etc was the thought.

However, on my departure from the hospital yesterday, they gave me some sheets of paper to study and when I was home I discovered I'm not allowed to drive for a month!
Exhibit 'B', M'Luds...........

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/124/264-220722092759-1243341700.jpeg)

Our plan is now in ruins. I'll be calling today to see if I can somehow get round this but suspect I'll get nowhere fast with that. I do want to know what criteria this is based on, though........

Length of time for wound to heal?
To see if the unit fails?

Grrrrrrr :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 22, 2022, 09:45:09 AM
Please let us know how you do. Leyland show walking distance ? Going to Dundee could be tricky mick
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on July 22, 2022, 10:11:23 AM
The document says that if you have had an ICD/CRT fitted. You only had a battery replaced, so I would say, m'lud that it doesn't apply.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on July 22, 2022, 10:13:04 AM
Quote from: Malc on July 22, 2022, 10:11:23 AM
The document says that if you have had an ICD/CRT fitted. You only had a battery replaced, so I would say, m'lud that it doesn't apply.

I would agree but ask you insurance company.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 22, 2022, 10:33:52 AM
Quote from: Snowwolflair on July 22, 2022, 10:13:04 AM
Quote from: Malc on July 22, 2022, 10:11:23 AM
The document says that if you have had an ICD/CRT fitted. You only had a battery replaced, so I would say, m'lud that it doesn't apply.

I would agree but ask you insurance company.

The battery is hermetically sealed in the unit, so they have to replace the entire unit.
I don't want to approach my insurance company until I've spoken to the hospital :no:
They are perfectly aware I have this unit, but I don't want to give them any excuse to increase premiums which, as we all know, they have a predilection for ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on July 22, 2022, 11:44:02 AM
@Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) , just thinking a little sideways here, what about travelling up on the train? Is that a viable alternative?

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 22, 2022, 03:16:25 PM
@emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604)
It briefly crossed my mind but the secondary mission was to see what mpg I'd get on the 'new' motor on a long run and to have a modicum of independence.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on July 22, 2022, 04:10:26 PM
Fair 'nuff, thought it'd be remiss not to mention it.

D'ya want me to look out any more links to your gal?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on July 22, 2022, 04:51:55 PM
I'd certainly query it, as to me "fitted" suggests the first time and DVLA may be worried about any after effects, whereas you've had a replacement, still using the same electrodes, which is not the same thing at all.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on July 22, 2022, 05:13:38 PM
S'funny, but all I can hear in my head is Colin Clive shouting "He's alive, HE's ALIVE!"
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on July 22, 2022, 06:05:34 PM
Mick, my archery buddy who had the same op said he was told a month, but if it activated in that month, it went out to six months.  He voluntarily surrendered his liscense(sic?)straight away after the op, but when the pacemaker wasn't activated in the first month, he got his DL back very easily. HTH.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 22, 2022, 09:13:27 PM
Quote from: TrevL on July 22, 2022, 06:05:34 PM
Mick, my archery buddy who had the same op said he was told a month, but if it activated in that month, it went out to six months.  He voluntarily surrendered his liscense(sic?)straight away after the op, but when the pacemaker wasn't activated in the first month, he got his DL back very easily. HTH.

Trev, thanks for that. The paperwork does in fact say the DVLA does not need to be alerted, just my insurance company. Let's face it, the threat of not being insured should I choose to drive within a month is threat enough!! Of course, if the unit does trigger itself at any time after the op then I have to inform everyone and surrender my licence for 6 months.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest10040 on July 25, 2022, 09:54:40 PM
what is it with royal mail tracking these days.....
you post a parcel, at a post office, and tracking doesn't even know they have got it ...
you are waiting for a parcel,
tracking says a tracking number has been provided, and there is a knock at the door and the parcel is here...

what is the  :censored: point of tracking, if it doesn't  :censored: work ??
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on July 29, 2022, 09:35:54 PM
I've mentioned that same thing before, apparently the tracking number is for the poster, not the addressee, so if you're expecting something you might get a notification when it's delivered, which is a fat lot of good. :veryangry: :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on July 29, 2022, 09:45:04 PM
If I buy anything from the UK, (which is not often these days due to Customs/Irish VAT/Fees - but that is for another post in the 'Angry' thread  :)), and the sender sends it tracked, I can track it on the Royal Mail site until it departs the UK. Using the same RM tracking number, I can then track it via An Post, (Irish postal service), right up to it departing the local office for delivery - well, usually I can.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: guest10040 on July 30, 2022, 09:29:04 AM
I used to be able to track a signed for or special delivery item using Royal Mail / track your item, by the time I got home from the post office I could enter the tracking  number, and it would show that it had been recieved at the post office, and I would then copy that and send to the reciepient to advise of despatch.

the next day, or so, I could again track it's progress and so on until it was delivered.

but over the last couple of months, you enter the tracking number, click on track my item, and it just seems to sit there.
however, if you phone RM and select the option for tracking an item, it will tell you it's status. but of course, that means the cost of the call, and the time taken to get a reply.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on August 03, 2022, 12:41:37 PM
I know I have mentioned similar problems before, but this is definitely an aaaaaargh! post.

On 3rd July I ordered a small electrical item from a UK seller via ebay, as I could not find it in Ireland. I only paid £16.73p including postage and VAT, the Irish VAT being collected by ebay. A few days later, I received an email from Irish Customs saying I owed €3.64 VAT plus a €3.50 collection fee. I paid this in order to get the item, but immediately appealed the decision to Irish Customs. This morning, I received a reply to my email, which basically said, "the sender failed to supply the 'IOSS' number, so, tough, the charge stands". I then contacted ebay via their 'Chat' system to ask them to refund the VAT. To cut a long story, (57 minutes  :goggleeyes:), short, I ended up being told that the person I 'chatted' to would submit my request for a VAT refund and I should have a result in 7 - 10 days.  :doh:

It is getting to the stage where it is getting too expensive, (and frustrating), to buy anything from a non EU seller. Maybe that is the plan  :hmmm:.
Anyway, rant over.  :)

I do not believe this! (even though it has happened)

Just after I posted the above, the postman came, with an Irish Customs demand, (no email this time), for €6.42 VAT, (plus the €3.50 fee), for some models that have been sent from the UK! I have checked the order and, yes, ebay have charged me for the VAT. So, I either refuse to pay the charge and the items will get sent back to the UK in a couple of weeks and then I have to wait for the seller to refund me, or I pay the charge and go through all the rigmarole of appealing the Customs charge, which will be refused, and then trying to get the VAT back through ebay. This is getting  :censored: reedikalus!  :*( :*(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Graham on August 03, 2022, 11:32:10 PM
more profit for ebay perhaps  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on August 04, 2022, 08:35:40 AM
As I understand it, when ebay add VAT to an order, they are collecting on behalf of the Customs/Revenue service of the receiving country. The money will then, at some stage, be forwarded on. So, in my case, the Irish Customs are getting two lots of VAT on my purchase. This did happen once before and I did get a refund from ebay.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on August 17, 2022, 10:18:53 AM
At the end of last year, our electricity and gas accounts moved to Eon. In February our protected price ended and we moved to 12 month, fixed deals, that required Smart meters fitting. We got as far as fitters arriving, looking at our existing meter cupboards and declaring that this was a nice easy job. Then it all came to a halt, as they discovered that our electricity and gas accounts were separate and they could not apply Smart meters to them.

Since then, we have regularly received emails and letters telling us that we need to be on Smart meters for the tariff and I have kept calling them. Each call resulted in the same response, that they didn't yet have a way to merge two accounts. In May/June, it suddenly changed to them testing a system to merge accounts and that it should be available soon.

On August 9th, the advisor had to go away to check and then call me back to confirm that the accounts were merged and that we could go ahead, so we booked for the change today and I made changes to my work schedule, so as to be at home.

This morning I have called to see if they can narrow down the time-slot, only to be told that the appointment was cancelled on 10th August. They can see the cancellation and can also see that no cancellation email or text was sent out and no phone call made! To make it worse, I have now been told that the two accounts have not been linked and that they still have no way of doing so - other than by cancelling the accounts and setting up new ones, at the current, much higher rates.

Apparently, we can't just have the electricity meter done and follow up with the gas one later, as a 4 to 5-year old firmware problem, that the meter manufacturers haven't addressed, means that adding the gas meter to an existing electricity meter doesn't work!

When it is possible to get a sensible price elsewhere, we shall definitely be moving from Eon, as fast as possible!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 18, 2022, 04:32:45 PM
We have Smart meters, two separate ones. The gas is on one side of the porch and the electricity is on the other side. So why do Eon say you have to add the gas meter to the electric one?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 18, 2022, 04:49:49 PM
Yeah - I have separate meter cupboards at the side of the bungalow and each has its own smart meter Eon again
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on August 18, 2022, 05:18:35 PM
As gas meters have no electricity supply (they are simple mechanical devices that operate by the flow of gas), to be Smart, they need a very low power processor and communications system adding, that can run intermittently, for an extended period, on a battery. Consequently, the gas meter's communications range is very limited and it cannot communicate with the data centre handling the information (the battery would be flattened in no time). To get around this, a Smart gas meter only communicates with the linked Smart electricity meter, which having an unlimited supply of power, can pass the data on to the data centre. Hence the requirement for them to be linked in the software/firmware setup. It is this link that Eon cannot establish, when the gas and electricity is on two separate accounts and not a dual fuel tariff.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on August 25, 2022, 11:26:20 PM
Well today I had one of those scam calls on the landline, the wife just passed it over to me. Basically it was about someone spending £150 on my credit card account, which is not possible because a few days ago I nearly fell for a scam and RBS blocked the card. I am waiting for something from the USA so when I got a call saying there was a customs charge and somebody had tried to deliver the parcel I fell for it. If I had checked the tracking the parcel was still in the USA. Only £1.70 but would probably have been more later, so card blocked which will stop me spending for a bit while I get a new card.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 27, 2022, 11:54:47 AM
Some of these scams are so believable, it's no wonder people are sucked in. As you say £1.70 is a small amount so you go with it, but it's the thin end of the wedge.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 03, 2022, 09:14:51 PM
Why do so many people change the name 'Mick' to 'Mike'?
I can be introduced or introduce myself as 'Mick' yet sometimes less than 10 minutes later they're calling me 'Mike'.
Likewise I can e mail from an address beginning 'mick...............................' and get a reply addressed to 'Mike'
It has reached the stage where I am just quite rude to them as, to my mind, if they can't get my name right they are no loss to me at all >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on September 03, 2022, 09:44:34 PM
Quite right too Mike Mick. Seriously though, I know what you mean. I have spoken to a couple of people lately, by email, in reference to my brother Michael. He is usually know as 'Mick' and I referred to him as such. However, in the emails I received back, he was referred to as 'Mike'.  ???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Nbodger on September 03, 2022, 09:46:12 PM
Someone is taking the Michael
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on September 03, 2022, 09:54:13 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on September 03, 2022, 09:14:51 PM
Why do so many people change the name 'Mick' to 'Mike'?
I can be introduced or introduce myself as 'Mick' yet sometimes less than 10 minutes later they're calling me 'Mike'.
Likewise I can e mail from an address beginning 'mick...............................' and get a reply addressed to 'Mike'
It has reached the stage where I am just quite rude to them as, to my mind, if they can't get my name right they are no loss to me at all >:(

Well, seeing as YOU opened this can 'o' worms...

I'm a Michael.

A lot of my family call me Mike. That's allowed.

One guy calls me Mick. I went to school with him and worked with him for years. That's allowed.

My best mate often calls me Mikey. That's allowed, he's a sound guy that would walk through fire to help me, and vice-versa.

I always introduce myself as Michael, and that's how I expect people I don't know well to refer to me. I occasionally have trouble with customers calling me Mike, they get corrected until it stops.

It's not rocket science. If someone introduces themselves to me as Richard, I don't start calling them Dick. Although many warrant it.

>:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on September 03, 2022, 10:23:49 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on September 03, 2022, 09:14:51 PM
Why do so many people change the name 'Mick' to 'Mike'?

I bet your mum called you Michael when you were naughty though didn't she Mickey?

It's much easier with my name John. Everyone calls me that (or my nickname which I was given 43 years ago when I first started work) although my mum called me JOHN when I was naughty  :dunce:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on September 03, 2022, 10:41:34 PM
I get annoyed when people call me Joey instead of Joe.

The last time anyone called me Joseph was when I got stopped by the police in Ireland in 1996.

I have to admit that I did like to hear my name pronouced JoSeph by the Irish policeman, rather than JoZeph as in UK, France, etc.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on September 03, 2022, 10:48:39 PM
Years ago, I frequently used to have to send faxes and I used to fill in the from line, the full address details and the "sign off", with three different variants - S.M.Walker, Mr. Stephen M. Walker and SteveW, following the line in a novel, where the character says, "They can call me anything they like, as long as it's said with the proper tone of respect."

Our youngest son has no hope, having the Christian names Darragh Steafán (named after my wife's cousin and the Irish version of my name) ... he is forever condemned to spell out his name on the phone or elsewhere.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on September 03, 2022, 10:53:29 PM
I made the mistake of calling my eldest son, born in France, Matthew.

The frogs (please excuse me French members of the forum) can't get their tongues around "th" so he is condemned forever to be called Mat-you.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bigmac on September 03, 2022, 11:22:12 PM
my name is Malcolm--usually Malc--sometimes Mal--which is bad.

One of my nephews, when he was learning to talk..( hes in his mid 30's now ) could only pronounce my name as Mac--which his family adopted.  So i became mac--even my wife called me mac.
In more recent years--an acquaintance at work labelled me Bigmac--and that stuck.
But i'm not tall--or overweight: so i cant imagine why the BIG label got there. Or maybe....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on September 03, 2022, 11:33:15 PM
None of my uncle's family can remember when or why they started calling my mother (who is called Christine or Chris) Aunty Jim! She's been known as that for around 60 years, but no-one knows why. It's not even her childhood nickname (that was Clear As or Mud).

On the other hand, we all know why a friend of ours is known as Dyllis - he accepted it as his nickname back during our schooldays in the early '80s, when there was a fad for calling everyone a Dil, just to get away from that, as his surname is Doe.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on September 04, 2022, 12:26:58 AM
My wife is disabled and we had looked at getting an electric Motability car, but could not as she did not have long enough to run on her PIP assessment and needed to wait until that was renewed. She put in her paperwork in August last year, and heard nothing (despite numerous requests) until June this year - at which point they renewed it until September, to give themselves more time. All this because someone thought that she may be entitled to *MORE* help. However the delays have prevented doing anything about a Motability car and, in the meantime, not only have up-front payments towards the cars massively increased, but the range of cars has reduced - and in the last fortnight, the last suitable model has been removed from the list, so now we cannot go ahead, even when they actually sort the paperwork out  :censored:

a) why on earth could they not have properly extended the existing PIP award and added on extra if they judged it valid?
b) she has a degenerative condition and will never improve, so why does she have to have an end point to her award every two years, rather than making it permanent, with reassessments only of additional needs?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jpendle on September 13, 2022, 03:37:46 AM
I flew from the US to Singapore over the weekend to take part in a global training event. We were told we would have to take a Covid test every morning to get into the office.
Monday morning I tested positive which means I get an all expenses paid 7 day vacation in a Singapore hotel room  >:(
I have a mild fever but no other symptoms. The US has no Covid test requirements for entry but Singapore won't let me leave any earlier unless I test negative.
Sod's law says that I won't test negative in time to leave on Saturday but that I'll still be positive when I am allowed to leave on Monday.  :veryangry:

And to cap it all there is a little known bug with my HP Z book laptop (according to our IT guy). It's Wifi doesn't work properly outside the US, I couldn't use it in the UK in August and sure enough it doesn't work here either. Fortunately one of my colleagues was able to drop off a LAN cable so that I can at least get online.
Another one was despatched to the grocery store to get tea and fresh milk, he's American but still managed to come back with Yorkshire tea  :)

SWMBO is livid and apparently I'm a stupid old goat who should know better than to leave her alone at home with two 15 week old Springer Spaniel pups while I relax in the fleshpots of Asia.

I had Covid in January and so far it's nowhere near as bad as it was then.

Fingers crossed.

Regards,

John P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on September 13, 2022, 12:53:30 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on September 03, 2022, 10:23:49 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on September 03, 2022, 09:14:51 PM
Why do so many people change the name 'Mick' to 'Mike'?

I bet your mum called you Michael when you were naughty though didn't she Mickey?

It's much easier with my name John. Everyone calls me that (or my nickname which I was given 43 years ago when I first started work) although my mum called me JOHN when I was naughty  :dunce:
My brother John got the shout Johnathon!!!! when he was in trouble..
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on September 13, 2022, 01:05:18 PM
My first name is that of a 2nd world war battle in a 60%  Muslim area  of their country, the chances of anyone pronouncing it or spelling correctly are slim.. especially as they themselves have change the spelling since..
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on September 13, 2022, 05:25:27 PM
Rumpulstiltskin ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on September 13, 2022, 05:28:45 PM
Quote from: jpendle on September 13, 2022, 03:37:46 AM
Monday morning I tested positive which means I get an all expenses paid 7 day vacation in a Singapore hotel room  >:(

I hope you like watching cricket on TV ?

There may be a test match going on somewhere in the world.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jpendle on September 18, 2022, 10:06:11 PM
Quote from: joe cassidy on September 13, 2022, 05:28:45 PM
Quote from: jpendle on September 13, 2022, 03:37:46 AM
Monday morning I tested positive which means I get an all expenses paid 7 day vacation in a Singapore hotel room  >:(

I hope you like watching cricket on TV ?

There may be a test match going on somewhere in the world.

Well what a moron  :censored: :censored:

Having never done a lateral flow test before I discovered on the Wednesday morning that I didn't have Covid and in fact had never had it, I just hadn't read the instructions properly.  :doh:

I think from now on the P in John P has to stand for pill&ck  :D

Regards,

John P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: weave on September 18, 2022, 10:36:46 PM
And you're going to explain that to SWMBO how???
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on September 19, 2022, 12:11:56 AM
I haven't laughed that hard since my wife bent over and our (at the time) 6 month old cat launched himself at her arse and hung there like a Garfield car window stick on while my wife yelled head off!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on September 19, 2022, 12:14:51 AM
Quote from: jpendle on September 18, 2022, 10:06:11 PM
Having never done a lateral flow test before I discovered on the Wednesday morning that I didn't have Covid and in fact had never had it, I just hadn't read the instructions properly.  :doh:

How can you do it wrong? I hope you didn't put the cotton bud thingy in the wrong orifice. You didn't did you?  :doh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on September 19, 2022, 12:31:00 AM
He's gonna be on dog walking duties for months, and months, and...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jpendle on September 19, 2022, 01:56:08 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on September 19, 2022, 12:14:51 AM
Quote from: jpendle on September 18, 2022, 10:06:11 PM
Having never done a lateral flow test before I discovered on the Wednesday morning that I didn't have Covid and in fact had never had it, I just hadn't read the instructions properly.  :doh:

How can you do it wrong? I hope you didn't put the cotton bud thingy in the wrong orifice. You didn't did you?  :doh:

I thought that any red line was positive, our team in Singapore provided test kits with no instructions at all, so I was watching a blurry (jet lag & alcohol) video on my phone  :(

John P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jpendle on September 19, 2022, 01:57:47 AM
Quote from: weave on September 18, 2022, 10:36:46 PM
And you're going to explain that to SWMBO how???

Already done and dusted. She already thinks I'm a moron, so no harm done  ;)

John P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jpendle on September 29, 2022, 06:56:23 PM
So two separate "angry posts" in a month, this time about Holiday Inn and Parking Eye.

We stayed ay a Holiday Inn Express in Manchester in August for 2 weeks. It has free parking and is only a 7 minute drive from my son's house in Stockport.

When we checked in the helpful fellow at the front desk said that he'd enter our rental car's licence plate into their Parking Eye system, at least that's what I thought he said.

Now 6 weeks later and I already had FIVE £60 fines processed by Avis and charged to my credit card along with their £30 admin fee, so £450 in all.

That's despite contacting the hotel over 2 weeks ago and asking them to sort this out, which they said they had done.

I've now been forced to lock my personal credit card, remove my corporate card from my Avis account, just in case, and am now faced with a long, and no doubt painful, appeals process to get my money back.

:veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :censored: :censored:

The only saving grace is that with the pound collapsing, it's not costing me quite as much as it would have done.

Regards,

John P

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on September 29, 2022, 11:03:37 PM
That's bloody disgraceful. I hope you get it sorted.  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on October 01, 2022, 12:06:35 PM
I've mentioned before that my wife is disabled and entitled to PIP. We had been looking at her getting a Motability car, but she didn't have the requisite 12 months to run until her next assessment. She was due to be assessed in August last year and she put in all her paperwork in July. They told her there were delays and someone would call her soon, but her PIP payments would continue in the meantime. Eventually she ended up speaking to someone who said that she might be entitled to a higher rate and extended her entitlement to March to give them time to get round to assessing her. That go extended to June, then July, then September and then December. Each time being too short to look at Motability and more and more cars kept dropping off the list, plus the up-front payments kept rising. Not to mention that her Blue Badge keeps running out and she has to re-apply, but they'll only give a new one (at a cost of £10) up to the new expiry date of her entitlement!

Anyway. Yesterday she phoned again (that's when she was told it was now December), so she asked for a letter to pass to the council to confirm the extension, so that she could get another Blue Badge (hers has expired again and she is restricted where she can go without parking). The woman she was talking to asked her to hold, went to talk to an on-call medical assessor, who went through it all, approved her entitlement on the spot and said that he couldn't understand why she was on a 2-yearly review anyway, as she has a lifelong, degenerative condition and moved her to a 5-yearly interval.

All well and good, but two weeks ago the last of the most suitable cars all disappeared off Motability's list. We looked to see what was available and found one that was nowhere near as good for her, but okay. The upfront payment was £0 for the base model and £199 for the higher model. We planned to go and look at the dealer's today ... only to find that those upfront costs have increased to £499 and £799 overnight  :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored:

The failure to assess her on time has now left her without a car for the last 6 months, frequently without a Blue Badge as she has had to wait for a new one and hundreds of pounds out of pocket (both on the up-front payment and on me having to take unpaid time off work to get her to appointments).

And none of it was necessary if they hadn't wrongly put her on a two-yearly review!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 01, 2022, 12:47:25 PM
I think that is what is called 'bureaucracy' ! Notice how the last four letters are spelt and could be pronounced?  :hmmm:. Hopefully your Wife goes on okay Steve.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on October 01, 2022, 01:34:31 PM
What is a Motability car ?

I assume it has the steering wheel, pedals, etc. modified depending on the needs of the user, as well as the driver's door & seat adapted for wheelchair access ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on October 01, 2022, 01:39:09 PM
You can have whatever adaptations are needed. However, she doesn't need any, as long as it has a boot big enough for her mobility scooter and nowadays, is an automatic - as her arthritis makes using a manual progressively more painful.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 01, 2022, 03:52:39 PM
I have frequently said the 'hands on' folk are great but sadly they are often let down by the pen pushers.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 01, 2022, 06:24:13 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on October 01, 2022, 03:52:39 PM
I have frequently said the 'hands on' folk are great but sadly they are often let down by the pen pushers.

Experience with the NHS, removals firms, jewellers, wedding venues and some schools suggest you may be onto something.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on October 02, 2022, 02:05:09 AM
I'll go along with the schools bit.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on October 02, 2022, 01:13:00 PM
The NHS's "hand-on" staff are not always that good either!

When my wife was still able to work, she was a Registered Mental Health Nurse and also a Registered General Nurse. In one department that she worked in, there were five nurses and social workers, plus a manager. My wife was the only part-timer, working half the hours of the rest.

One day a senior manager visited and no-one was there ... not too surprising, as they were a community team. The same happened next time. The senior manager started to look a bit closer at the department and found that my wife was seeing more patients than the full-timers. Further investigation revealed that three of the full-timers were stating that they were seeing patients in the offices at a different hospital, but they were actually spending days out shopping or visiting coffee shops!

The two social workers moved to another council before they could be disciplined, while the nurse was returned to the department she'd been seconded from and told to pay back around £10,000.

The fourth, a nurse, was the only one you could feel sympathy for. He was logging on at home and then, soon after, taking his dog for a long walk. However, he was struggling mentally at the time, as he'd just gone through a nasty breakup and been diagnosed as HIV positive - he was the only one that they sacked.

The department manager who was overseeing this fiasco was moved to another department ... and promoted!

Meanwhile, the department was wound up, my wife was moved to another department and she was forced to spend another 12 months fighting for her position, as they had had her on the wrong pay grade for some time and had "conveniently" lost the paperwork submitted to correct it, so were only offering her jobs below her proper grade and were threatening to get rid of her unless she accepted one of them. This was only resolved when she involved a solicitor.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 02, 2022, 01:23:50 PM
I must admit being told every now and then by a medico I'd maybe feel better if I lost a little weight.
This just makes me feel like responding "From what I see a good 80% of your nurses are clinically obese. Is this a good advert for your mantra?"
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on October 02, 2022, 05:19:42 PM
My answer when Iget weighed at a hospital and told Ime over weight is no I am just a bit short for my weight .
And I agree with Mick nurses are usually very skinny or over weight .
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on October 03, 2022, 09:48:19 AM


How  :censored: long does it take to sell a house in a private sale between 2 people???

I lost both my parents in the last 18 months and have therefore inherited the family home, I found a buyer almost instantly, the daughter of my parents neighbour.

Simples we thought, there's no chain, the Buyer gets survey for Mortgage done in a week, I get all the necessary paperwork my side done, i.e Energy Survey, Grant of Probate etc. and then we have to introduce the bottleneck  :censored: Solicitors!!!

We are now into the 5th week and apart from me answering some questions about the searches, of which I had to guess as I've not lived in the house for 40 years, nothing!! Nada!! Doesn't even look like we're anywhere near getting this completed!!!

Sorry just getting frustrated at Solicitors obviously trying to justify their extortionate fee for doing bu88er all quickly!!!!

:veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on October 03, 2022, 10:04:29 AM
A friend has just completed her purchase... It took her several months and she was a cash buyer having already sold her previous house.. At one point her solicitor included details of the wrong house in the survey!!

The most junior member of staff often not even a real solicitor actually does the house enquiries and most of the work, The solicitor just signs it off..
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 03, 2022, 10:21:31 AM
I've been in the same boat as Neal as our Mother passed away in April. The difference is, with 2 sisters there are 3 Executors and one doesn't have internet. Like a nutjob I volunteered to be the main point of contact and have found it astounding just how bad solicitors and other hangers on can be. We also had contracts made out to the wrong address etc and had to point this out to them.
It seems when they want info you have to jump but their communications are, quite frankly, appalling. For everything, I've had to confer with my sisters and get their signatures on countless pieces of paper (and they're like herding cats). Here we are 20 weeks later. The estate agent says contracts were due to be exchanged last Thursday but haven't actually confirmed that, and completion is due tomorrow.
Then I'll submit my invoice >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on October 03, 2022, 10:28:56 AM
With the way prices are going, I hope that you priced your time in model railway items and not pounds  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 03, 2022, 10:44:07 AM
I apologise to anybody who works in the industry but the entire home buying and selling business is full or utter utter morons.

The last lot we used to sell ours couldn't find the details of the land rent company.

I literally had to take the name I gave them, Google it for them, and give them the contact details.

And then the ***** charged me!

Shower of ******

I feel your pain @Calnefoxile (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=619) / Neale

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 03, 2022, 11:02:07 AM
I realise that this is nowt to do with house selling/buying, but it goes to show that nowt changes. Many many years ago, when my first wife and I were going through the divorce, we had to go to Court so the Judge could be satisfied with the arrangements for the maintenance etc., for our son. Now bear in mind the fact that our son was not a teenager when we started the divorce proceedings. The conversation at Court went something like this -
Judge: "Is there just the one child of the marriage?"
Me: "Yes your Honour"
Judge: "And has an arrangement been made for the childs welfare?"
Me: "Yes your Honour"
Judge: "Hang on, is the only child of the marriage 18 years of age next month?"
Me: "Yes your Honour"
Judge: "Of course I am satisfied then - why has it taken so long to get to Court?"

I had, at one stage, complained to the body that regulates Solicitors over the delays and my Solicitor was instructed to halve his bill.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 03, 2022, 12:16:41 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on October 03, 2022, 10:44:07 AM
I apologise to anybody who works in the industry but the entire home buying and selling business is full of utter utter morons.
Shower of ******


Couldn't agree more. Bunch of parasites doing as little as possible for as much as possible.
If only selling my Mother's property was as easy as selling her car ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: geofff on October 03, 2022, 01:11:28 PM
This was a few years ago now, but we eventually sold my Mum's home after she passed. There was an equity loan/mortgage on the house and the solicitor drew up a statement of the sale and was going to pay me the whole value of the sale - ignoring the repayment of £80,000 to the equity loan company. I've yet to find a competent solicitor.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on October 07, 2022, 12:37:28 PM
When my father passed, my mother wanted to pay off the mortgage as it was only a small amount. The solicitor told her to stop paying and he would sort it out. When I went home 6 months later, my mum was getting letters from the mortgage company about missed payments. My father left a will and didn't have a big estate but the solicitor was taking ages to put it through probate. I had to go down and have a few words with him to sort it out. He didn't like it when I gave him an ultimatum to clear everything up before I contacted the Law Society.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on October 10, 2022, 01:36:57 PM
What a waste!Just received this box from Hattons which contained 1 packet of rail joiners, surely an envelope would have done the job? Plus Royal mail's tracked 48 service took 7 days including a diversion to Bicester.
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/126/2855-101022133534.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=126652)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 10, 2022, 02:40:06 PM
Just be thankful that you did not ordered two packs.  :). I ordered 3 bottles of supplements last week. One bottle came Friday, in a box measuring about 10" x 10" x 8". A second bottle arrived today, in a similar size box and the the third bottle has yet to be despatched, so presumably that will be in a similar size box. The bottles measure about 3" tall by 2" in diameter.As you say, what a wastet.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: geofff on October 10, 2022, 03:01:45 PM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on October 10, 2022, 01:36:57 PM
What a waste!Just received this box from Hattons which contained 1 packet of rail joiners, surely an envelope would have done the job? Plus Royal mail's tracked 48 service took 7 days including a diversion to Bicester.
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/126/2855-101022133534.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=126652)
Need to justify the cost of the postage and packing
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 10, 2022, 03:02:29 PM
There are several possible reasons for the "stupidly large box for tiny product" phenomenon, my cynical mind can think of two immediately:

1) The companies involved wanted to minimise outgoings on postage and that was their only goal. So the got a blanket contract from the lowest bidder and a huge bulk of single sized boxes. No thought to anything other than the bottom line.

2) Companies involved either wrote (unlikely) or subbed out (most likely) some analysis to a company with the goal "make postage costs small". Recommendation came back, cheapest one selected, page two and beyond (containing data beyond "bottom line") ignored.

Either way, the corporate wheels turn

Skyline2uk 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on October 10, 2022, 03:13:43 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on October 10, 2022, 03:02:29 PM
There are several possible reasons for the "stupidly large box for tiny product" phenomenon, my cynical mind can think of two immediately:

1) The companies involved wanted to minimise outgoings on postage and that was their only goal. So the got a blanket contract from the lowest bidder and a huge bulk of single sized boxes. No thought to anything other than the bottom line.

2) Companies involved either wrote (unlikely) or subbed out (most likely) some analysis to a company with the goal "make postage costs small". Recommendation came back, cheapest one selected, page two and beyond (containing data beyond "bottom line") ignored.

Either way, the corporate wheels turn

Skyline2uk 

Another possibility is that they'd run out of small Jiffy bags and wanted to get the order out quickly, so just went with the next smallest available option.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 10, 2022, 03:24:42 PM
True

I did say I was being cynical  :D

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on October 10, 2022, 03:38:50 PM
Reminds me of a delivery from Shapeways a couple of years back:
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/943-100518121057.jpeg)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on October 11, 2022, 12:14:46 AM
What? A huge box like that and they still failed to put the product inside it!  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 26, 2022, 03:34:19 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on October 03, 2022, 12:16:41 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on October 03, 2022, 10:44:07 AM
I apologise to anybody who works in the industry but the entire home buying and selling business is full of utter utter morons.
Shower of ******


Couldn't agree more. Bunch of parasites doing as little as possible for as much as possible.
If only selling my Mother's property was as easy as selling her car ::)

Conveyancer just made a BIG mistake. They asked me to complete a survey concerning their performance. They ain't gonna like what they see and should have been careful what they asked for >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 26, 2022, 06:39:33 PM
Have at em Mick!

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 26, 2022, 09:27:14 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on October 26, 2022, 06:39:33 PM
Have at em Mick!


I most certainly did, especially as their final accounts had things in there that shouldn't have been ::)
How can I see them instantly when they (the so called experts) can't?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jpendle on October 27, 2022, 06:07:24 PM
Just to follow on from my Parking Eye, Holiday Inn, Avis post.

I just got my money back  :claphappy:

The manager at the Holiday Inn really came through on my behalf.

Maybe this should be in the Happy Thread.

John P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on October 27, 2022, 06:15:41 PM
Quote from: jpendle on October 27, 2022, 06:07:24 PM
Just to follow on from my Parking Eye, Holiday Inn, Avis post.

I just got my money back  :claphappy:

The manager at the Holiday Inn really came through on my behalf.

Maybe this should be in the Happy Thread.

John P

I think it should be!

Now you have a conundrum, would you give positive feedback for the help of said manager or negative for being it that situation to begin with?

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on November 29, 2022, 01:40:13 PM
yes, after all my trials, I'm back.

YOKEL  :censored:

so I'm waiting for a parcel from a company that uses this load of clowns.
apparently my parcel, from the depot just outside Burgess Hill, is at present

Parcel status
Your driver is currently making stop Number 98 of 216.
Estimated delivery date:
Today
Stops before you:
91

ok, what is the problem that has me spitting feathers ??????

so far I have seen one Yokel van in the road behind us, and one drive past us.

is there no one at this useless  :censored: company that can actually arrange a sensible route where parcels are delivered as vehicles drive past the destination  :thumbsdown:

apart from the obvious aggro for customers, who thinks that it is a good idea to have vehicles pass each other on their way to deliver parcels ? especially with the price of fuel these days you might, if you have a single brain cell, think that firms would be looking to be more cost effective.

obviously not in their case ! :veryangry:



Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob Tidbury on November 29, 2022, 01:57:21 PM
Browning 9mm
They are not the only courier to do that ,We have a Gousto food box delivered every monday and I dont like the idea of it being left on the doorstep in full view of passers by and if its raining the box gets soaked and bursts open ,so I wait in and every time our little burgular alarm barks I look out to see if its the HERMES VAN I have seen two sometimes even three vans go up and down our road but no Gousto box one evening it arrived at half past 9 in the evening by a private car .
I used to do deliveries many years ago and used to get my delivery sheets in a pile in no order at all so I used to go home and have my breakfast look at the map
( No sat naves in those days ) and sort out my route and still get back to the yard before the other drivers .
D P D are the best courier in our area but I have even seen two or three of their vans in our road sometimes possibly from different depots of course .
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on November 29, 2022, 01:57:53 PM
My Parcel's Journey

29/11/22
08:49
Your parcel is with one of our drivers for delivery

29/11/22
08:48
Your parcel is being loaded. Check back for updates shortly.

29/11/22
03:04
Your parcel has arrived at the local delivery depot

28/11/22
23:08
Your parcel has arrived at the local delivery depot

28/11/22
22:13
Your parcel has arrived at your local depot


28/11/22
14:36
Your parcel is at our national hub

23/11/22
00:00
We're expecting your parcel from your sender. We will provide updates here once we receive it.

how many times does it need to arrive at the local depot, for  :censored: sake  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: woodbury22uk on November 29, 2022, 02:03:26 PM
Not wanting to be seen as a Yodel defender, but anyone who has worked on delivery scheduling will know the issues.

Not all deliveries from the hub arrive at the end of the spoke simultaneously. Do you hold up all the deliveries for an area until the very last hub service has arrived been unloaded, sorted and distributed to the otherwise complete loads on the vans? Simple answer is "No". If you have 3 vanloads, then get the vans on the road as soon as possible. And schedule some vans to cover the last incoming hub trucks.

Not all deliveries to an address pass through the same delivery depot. Today I have Amazon deliveries from two different depots, and I know now from experience and from the origin of the packet which depot would deliver which item.

In some situations involving hazardous items, packages should not be in the same load.

Hopefully when the van reaches stop 189, the driver will be outside your house with your package, and it will still be today.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on November 29, 2022, 02:06:57 PM
do not get me wrong...

I do not blame the drivers, it's the so called managers, no doubt with a university degree in nothing whatsoever to do with transport, who do my head in.

give an eastern european van driver, on minimum wage, a list of deliveries, and he'll do a simple job fast and effectively.

insert a computer [ I know exactly where I would insert it] and add a degree in social sciences etc, and it seems the entire, simple system get totally  :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on November 29, 2022, 02:13:37 PM
@ woodbury22uk

many thanks for that explanation. I understand it, but it does seem so inefficient in some cases.

as alsways, I seem, regardless of the company, to get a cheerfull, helpfull guy appear at my door with the parcel, but I do wonder how far up the chain the intelligence actually reaches.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on November 29, 2022, 02:17:52 PM
This doesn't bode well for the king size bed I'm expecting tomorrow, three vans possibly?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on November 29, 2022, 02:20:51 PM
only three  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: woodbury22uk on November 29, 2022, 02:39:02 PM
@Browning 9mm (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=10229)

Hopefully the chill pills won't have got damp during the delivery process. :)

Before all this computer scheduling malarkey was commonplace, I beat a fledgling scheduling program in a competition at the Commercial Motor show delivering 20 drops. I won on all three parameters:- overall journey time, miles run and fuel economy. My advantage was that the program did not have a good map of the road network. The good quality network maps were only in the hands of the emergency services and military in those days. I had proof of this. In 1989 I came upon an accident on a roundabout between Derby and Stoke. One driver was trapped in his car. Luckily I had a car phone and called 999. "Hello, Scotland Yard Mobile Control Room. What is your emergency?".  Trying to pinpoint my location turned out to be child's play. I gave the road number which I knew, and a rough location on the outskirts of Uttoxeter. The operator said "Can you see the Happy Eater?" "Yes, it is on the other side of the roundabout". Final message from the operator was "Thank you. Help is on its way". Less than 5 minutes later all three 999 services arrived and dealt with the situation.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on November 29, 2022, 03:24:19 PM
I must admit that my preferred delivery is from DPD, they e-mail me with a 1 hour slot, which lets me arrange the HB exercise around it, and even tells me the name of the driver..
which lets me greet him with "Hi xxxx, how are you today" which to me is much better the  "yeah"...

though on one occasion it did not work too well...

'Your driver 'steve' will be with you between xx and yy'

great,

and a few minutes after xx the doorbell went, dogs shut in and " hi, how are you today 'steve'  errrrr :-[
a very nice young lady was covering 'steve's' deliveries, in his van, and so the "computer" worded the e-mail....]
we had a laugh about it, and she went on her way, but it is, IMHO, so much nicer to greet them with a name rather  than just a 'hello'.

they are people, doing a job I certainly would not want to, and the least we can do is be civil, and treat them as people.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on November 29, 2022, 04:10:41 PM
I do feel sorry for these guys, and gals,....
yes, even me ...

when, many years ago, I was working for the AA, they started a system that would text a member, waiting for a patrol, with a message along the lines of " xxx will be with you in about 10 minutes"

then the computer would take over, the patrol deployed would be re-allocated to a detail nearer, and half an hour or so later I'd turn up to be greeted with ...

"did you have a nice cuppa ?"

"pardon ?"

"well 30 minutes ago you were on your way to me, Steve, eta 10 minutes, from Cowfold"

"sorry, my name is Alan, and 30 minutes ago I got detailed to your breakdown in PETWORTH and headed straight here, and yes I would kill for the chance of a cuppa"

"ah, sorry, but the text said ........ do you take sugar in your tea / coffee ?"

these so called managers just don't seem to be able to see the agro they can cause by their so called improvements to their sytems.

tell me you'll be half an hour, and I can live with it, you, delivering a parcel or attending a breakdown, can be busy, I realise that.

LIE to me, and I get  :censored: off, and the poor sod who, doing his best, arrives is likely to get both barrels.

not a problem for you in your office, but not the best for the poor sod on the receiving end of the gripe.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on November 29, 2022, 05:33:15 PM
as expected, a lovely guy delivered my parcel a few minutes ago......
what a pity a few of the management were as interested in doing an good and effective job as their drivers
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on November 29, 2022, 09:03:57 PM
Was it Steve?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on November 29, 2022, 09:34:18 PM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on November 29, 2022, 03:24:19 PM
I must admit that my preferred delivery is from DPD,

I sometimes get items delivered by DPD. If the email and text state that 'Jason' will deliver my parcel between 'then' and 1 hour later, I know I will get it, quite often a few minutes before the allotted time. If the email/text state that 'somebody else' will deliver, 9 times out of ten, the parcel does not arrive and on checking, usually get the information that my address can not be found! As I have put in a few emails of complaint, if 'Jason' can find my address, why can 'somebody else' not find it? Plus our system of postcodes has an individual code for every single address in the country - all the driver has to do is look at the 'Eircode' site and it shows exactly where I am. I realise that I live in a reasonably remote area, but to me, that is no excuse for not getting my item.  >:(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Keith Bingham on December 01, 2022, 12:03:50 PM
Unable to indulge in foreign travel at the moment, so content myself in going round in circles on my new N-gauge layout which I bought from Arthur Mustoe. It's smaller than my previous layout I built - no room for it in our newly decorated cellar - and I've no time to devote to building another.
So found Arthur, lovely work.
This one is 3 foot 8 by 2 foot 6, single line becoming two road through station, with two road fiddle yard and sidings and lovely pointwork which makes for interesting operation.
Four isolated sections, point work operated by wire and tube. Handsome job.
Now working on adding scenic stuff.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on December 01, 2022, 12:14:37 PM
Quote from: Keith Bingham on December 01, 2022, 12:03:50 PM
Unable to indulge in foreign travel at the moment, so content myself in going round in circles on my new N-gauge layout which I bought from Arthur Mustoe. It's smaller than my previous layout I built - no room for it in our newly decorated cellar - and I've no time to devote to building another.
So found Arthur, lovely work.
This one is 3 foot 8 by 2 foot 6, single line becoming two road through station, with two road fiddle yard and sidings and lovely pointwork which makes for interesting operation.
Four isolated sections, point work operated by wire and tube. Handsome job.
Now working on adding scenic stuff.

Forgive me, but why is this in the 'Angry Thread'?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Keith Bingham on December 01, 2022, 03:16:17 PM
Good question. Why indeed is this in the angry thread. My next post will probably be more suitable. I'll conclude by complaining to Dapol that my 2-10-0 has just derailed on the canal bridge!
:veryangry:

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: weave on December 01, 2022, 03:44:15 PM
If it's a 'good question', why don't you answer it?  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Keith Bingham on December 01, 2022, 04:28:09 PM
It was simply a mistake, I failed to see I was writing in the angry thread.
:*(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on December 01, 2022, 06:27:18 PM
We have a family saying that fits that TIBMIN - Thumb in bumb mind in neutral
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on December 02, 2022, 10:56:41 AM
We have a similar expression I use when coming across a dozy driver. TUBBIN.  Similar to Mike's but up and brain replacing in and mind.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 02, 2022, 12:37:52 PM
My preference is PICNIC = Problem in Chair, Not in Computer
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on December 02, 2022, 12:48:08 PM
or even ID10T fault  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 03, 2022, 06:31:21 AM
Big TV decided not to work today. It's on the wall and only 12 months old. OK, crap, but why am I posting here?

Because the Aussies play the Argies at 6am, and there's no way Mrs B will let me put it on in the bedroom at 6am.

Might have to go down the pub  >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on December 03, 2022, 09:17:24 AM
like your pub opening hours  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 03, 2022, 09:44:09 AM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on December 03, 2022, 09:17:24 AM
like your pub opening hours  :beers:

@Trainfish (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=262) is already in the air ;D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Graham on December 03, 2022, 10:28:33 PM
Quote from: Bealman on December 03, 2022, 06:31:21 AM
Big TV decided not to work today. It's on the wall and only 12 months old. OK, crap, but why am I posting here?

Because the Aussies play the Argies at 6am, and there's no way Mrs B will let me put it on in the bedroom at 6am.

Might have to go down the pub  >:D
you need one in the garage George, then you could be watching trains on the layout whilst the game is on. :D :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 03, 2022, 10:32:52 PM
Yeah, well it's all academic now  :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on December 03, 2022, 10:44:31 PM
I'm guessing/hoping that you will now be supporting your own team rather than your adopted team?  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Graham on December 03, 2022, 11:35:16 PM
I always said I would not start supporting Australia until I had lived here longer than England, 3yrs ago that milestone passed and whilst I support Australia in everything else something in me won't let me stop supporting England in the Ashes.  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Webbo on December 04, 2022, 04:16:22 AM
Being beaten by Messi and his fellow Argies is no shame. I did delight in seeing Messi put on his master class and now hope that Argentina goes all the way.

Webbo
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on December 04, 2022, 08:39:50 PM
all this talk of TVs going up the spout .....
just had to fork out for a new one for SWMBO to watch her  :poop: soaps etc after ours decided that, while it was happy to keep playng the sound, the picture would disappear after a few minutes. :veryangry:

it's not as though I can even play dvds through the thing, cause it does the same.

new one should arrive by the 6th, apparently, but no Bluestone 42 till then, no Hill Street Blues, no Tour of duty, will I survive that long ???

guess I'll just have to read the Reacher books again to fill in the time. :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on December 04, 2022, 09:10:33 PM
Why don't you do some modelling/play with your train set  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on December 04, 2022, 10:05:13 PM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on December 04, 2022, 08:39:50 PM
all this talk of TVs going up the spout .....

Amongst the other things to do in the run-up to Christmas, is to replace our LNB, as 1/4 of our channels have disappeared :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on December 05, 2022, 02:30:37 PM
Well, in line with their promise to look after us old age pensioners, I see that today SWMBO and I have received our christmas bonus from the DWP  :thumbsup:

£10 each  :hmmm:

never gone up since introduced in the 1970's  >:(

any chance that the MP's expenses and allowances are still at 1970's rates  :hmmm: :-X

still, I suppose we should be gratefull we get anything at all from them.

now, what can I get for my £10  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on December 05, 2022, 03:27:45 PM
£10 in 1975 is roughly equivalent to £80 today. Ireland has for a long time had the reputation of being 'rip off Ireland'. However I have noticed on our last couple of trips to Enniskillen in the north, that our prices are broadly similar to what they are in the north. I do not know the reason, (maybe the 'B' word has some bearing on the matter  :hmmm:). Even petrol in the Republic, allowing for the exchange rate, is slightly cheaper than the UK. But going back to the previous post, the Government here certainly look after the pensioners better than the UK. My Christmas bonus - due this Friday? - is one week extra pension payment and the Irish pension is more than the UK pension. (I had better shut up now - sorry.  ;)).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on December 05, 2022, 03:58:56 PM
think I may need to consider moving....
never mind 'Escape to the country' it may be a case of 'Escape to THAT country'

are Huskies welcome ? :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on December 05, 2022, 06:01:23 PM
You are all welcome, although I think Huskies need a passport.  I think humans do too. :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: acook on December 05, 2022, 07:36:14 PM
And a Rabies shot.....................
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on December 05, 2022, 07:42:48 PM
Not sure that Alan would appreciate a rabies shot.  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: njee20 on December 05, 2022, 10:24:19 PM
Aaaand the RMT just ruined our Christmas plans with their new raft of strikes. I'm sympathetic to their plight, but honestly holding innocent public to ransom over it is utterly incensing. Unpopular here I'm sure, but my god they make it hard to support them. Can I have the 8% pay increase they've rejected?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 05, 2022, 10:42:50 PM
The 8% is actually 4% this year and 4% next year so.........................
Assuming £20,000 a year + 4% = £20,800 then next year £20,800 + 4% = £21,632 means the overall increase is 10.8%.
N.B. The £20,000 is an arbitrary figure from me for simplicity purposes.

Personally I fail to see what numpty actually thought the unions would go for it ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: njee20 on December 05, 2022, 11:05:55 PM
Ok, can I have their promised reoccurring 4% pay rise? More than most will get. 
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on December 05, 2022, 11:12:06 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 05, 2022, 10:42:50 PM
The 8% is actually 4% this year and 4% next year so.........................
Assuming £20,000 a year + 4% = £20,800 then next year £20,800 + 4% = £21,632 means the overall increase is 10.8%.
N.B. The £20,000 is an arbitrary figure from me for simplicity purposes.

Personally I fail to see what numpty actually thought the unions would go for it ::)

True, but the 10% inflation this year makes £20,800 this year worth under £19,000 next year and the £19660 (ish) after its 4% bump worth about £17880 or so. (very rough calculations)

While unrealistic, anything less than 10% pay rise effectively means a pay cut next year. So pretty much anyone negotiating a deal is going to be aiming to lose as little as possible. It's going to be a case of them finding what amount isn't actually insulting and can be agreed.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: njee20 on December 05, 2022, 11:51:13 PM
Of course, but all of that makes it sound like the average man on the street is getting a 20% pay rise. Everyone's getting shafted right now, and many people from a whole new angle by the rail unions now. Striking over Christmas is just mean spirited, and will do nothing at all to ingratiate anyone to their cause. And some wonder why folk avoid train travel?!

They've been promised 4% YoY pay rises and guarantees of no job losses. I get neither. Like most people.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on December 06, 2022, 12:57:51 AM
Just think, if we ALL got 10%, 20% or whatever other % the cost of everything will go up by at least a similar amount due to manufacturing, delivery costs etc so nobody will be better off. This is why I struggle to support anyone demanding these pay rises by striking. When I started with my current company (and pretty much all others previously) I agreed to a pay review every April. This is why I won't be going on strike. We're all in this together and we're all having to pay for Covid vaccinations, furlough, handouts to certain companies including those who didn't need them etc etc. Am I the only 1 who knew times were going to be tough for all for a few years?

Quote from: Browning 9mm on December 05, 2022, 03:58:56 PM
think I may need to consider moving....
never mind 'Escape to the country' it may be a case of 'Escape to THAT country'

Would you like me to start a GoFundMe appeal? I'm sure we could raise the amount needed  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: woodbury22uk on December 06, 2022, 06:42:26 AM
Effectively there was a pay freeze since January 2020 as part of the pay and productivity deal agreed then. Of course the arrival of the pandemic prevented much progress on the framework agreed. Staff numbers decreased, but salaries generally did not increase. One group of workers on less than £24000 pa received a £250 per annum increase in 2020.

The context of the current offer is that it spans 5 calendar years. Many people outside the rail industry did not receive an increase in 2020/21, but many did.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: njee20 on December 06, 2022, 08:26:44 AM
I'd like to see strike action like Japanese bus drivers - run the service, but collect no fares. I resent being a pawn in their negotiation, as I have no sway in it. Fine, hold your employer to ransom if that's your bag, but not the travelling public, they'll just end up grossly inconvenienced, will go elsewhere, patronage will drop and jobs will go, and I have no sympathy for that.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on December 06, 2022, 09:54:49 AM
SWMBO's new tv is due today, so why is this in the angry thread .......

Your DHL Express shipment with waybill number 1925725620 from ELECTRIC MANIA LTD is scheduled for delivery TODAY before end of day.

at least DPD give me a 1 hour slot for delivery, so surely DHL could do much the same.
not even, as far as I can see, even the map with 'your drop is number xxx, driver is on drop yyy there are zzz drops before yours'

looks like it will be a long day for HB, as I certainly don't want this left on the frond door step, or chucked over the back gate.

still, at least OI don't live on the 10th floor of block 2  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 06, 2022, 10:01:55 AM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on December 06, 2022, 09:54:49 AM

still, at least OI don't live on the 10th floor of block 2  :smiley-laughing:

Watching such ads has probably worn the old TV out ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on December 06, 2022, 10:20:42 AM
does make I laugh, and a good soundtrack....

in fact

better than a lot of the programs they put on  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 06, 2022, 10:22:30 AM
You can always do what I did, switch it off and switch it back on again  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on December 06, 2022, 10:23:40 AM
tried that, didn't make any difference, a few minutes and the picture went, just left the sound.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: woodbury22uk on December 06, 2022, 10:57:15 AM
Quote from: njee20 on December 06, 2022, 08:26:44 AM
I'd like to see strike action like Japanese bus drivers - run the service, but collect no fares. I resent being a pawn in their negotiation, as I have no sway in it. Fine, hold your employer to ransom if that's your bag, but not the travelling public, they'll just end up grossly inconvenienced, will go elsewhere, patronage will drop and jobs will go, and I have no sympathy for that.

I don't think the Japanese system would work. The train operators would need to co-operate by shutting down their websites, and allowing train crew to work. Most of the strikers are not train crew, so we need to be more inventive. How about running all the passenger trains but not stopping at stations, or not opening the doors?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 06, 2022, 11:34:29 AM
Quote from: woodbury22uk on December 06, 2022, 10:57:15 AM
How about running all the passenger trains but not stopping at stations, or not opening the doors?

No better than not running at all :no:
Seems all strikes hitting the news cause maximum inconvenience to the public.
As any cards sent for the festive season are unlikely to reach their destination let's avoid paying for stamps to send any. I sent a parcel 1st class signed for on Saturday 26th Nov and it still hasn't arrived in Scotland to the best of my knowledge. Not that I can check because, of course, the Track & Trace is not being updated ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on December 06, 2022, 12:10:00 PM

Two words.......

VIRGIN MEDIA  :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

3 weeks ago, a nice man from Virgin Media knocked at my door and proudly announced that I would be able to sign up to FTTP (Fibre To The Property) with them if I was interested??

Was I interested?? You're damn right I was, he was offering me 1Gig Download speed, I was in, hook, line & sinker. Sign me up matey.....

After signing up he promised me an Installation date of between 08:00 & 13:00 06/12/2022, i.e Today. Brilliant says I, so away he goes all done & dusted.

A couple of hours later I get a call from my current supplier, BT, asking why I was leaving them and I explained that it had nothing to do with their service, which has been exemplary for the last 25 years, but only because they can't offer me Fibre to the property. Ok they say, sorry about that but it will be a while before we can offer that and they fully understood why I was leaving, and they hoped I might come back in a years time when they possibly could offer me FTTP.

Scoot forward to last night!!!

Me & Mrs C sat watching TV, my phone goes @21:07, a text message from Virgin Media - "Sorry but we can't install your service on 06/12/22 and our new date to install your Service is 06/03/2023. Reply CHAT if you want to discuss this", "You  :censored: what I scream!!!! And try to reply 'chat' to the number, but no it can't be sent!!! Surprise, Surprise, their desk closes @21:00!!!!

So I've spent 3 hours this morning trying to find out what's going on, ringing Virgin Media 3 times as they kept cutting me off, only for them to confirm that they've got to delay my install because they have to carry out some external work before they can connect, and that's being done on the 04/01/23, however my mate down the road is having his done on 30/12/22.

I said to them that because of them sending todays date to BT, BT are terminating my Services from them @23:59 today so what are Virgin going to do about that?? I ask.

I'm really sorry about that sir, say Virgin, but that's the dates from the Installation Team. But what about my Broadband & phone line form BT, says I. And around the houses we go, Virgin saying not their issue and me saying yes it is, you told BT that you were taking over my service today???

Ended up with me ringing BT to plead with them to not terminate my Service today, but nothing they can do as the Service is due today @23:59 and it's locked, I have to call Virgin back to get them to issue a new cutover date and that will stop todays disconnection.

So back to Virgin to issue new paperwork.  :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

I have pulled the "I work for the Emergency Services, supporting front line Ambulances" card, so let's see if that gets their backsides in gear!!!!

Not a great start for Virgin Media, let's see how they handle this?? If it's well then I might stay, if not I'll be back to BT and wait for their FTTP.

Sorry for the diatribe, I feel like @Browning 9mm (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=10229)   :D :D

Regards

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on December 06, 2022, 12:18:14 PM
I wouldn't hold my breath.

I found Virgin great at selling, not so great at actually providing the service.
also, if you are on a new customer introduction rate, sit down when you get the new rate at the end of your 12 months
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Foxhound on December 06, 2022, 01:09:22 PM
@Calnefoxile (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=619)

RUN

That is all.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on December 06, 2022, 02:53:38 PM
well at least one thing has gone right today ...

SWMBO's tv arrived at 13:30, HB then walked, tv now installed [I must read the rest of the instruction book but at least she has the tv channels, I just need to work out how to add the dvd player and possibly link to the laptop or a hard drive with photos]

only dowside so far is HB sulking cause he hasn't had another dinner after his walk  :*(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 06, 2022, 02:56:17 PM
Quote from: Calnefoxile on December 06, 2022, 12:10:00 PM
however my mate down the road is having his done on 30/12/22.


Unless he gets the same run around. I'd suggest you warn him what might happen, Neal
Virgin on the ridiculous ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 06, 2022, 03:04:51 PM
Having bought a Nextbase dash cam from Halfords, I sat for 2 hours in their freezing warehouse they call premises while it was hard wired in yesterday afternoon. I only live about 5 miles from them yet before I got home it had fallen off the windscreen. Now a friend had the same issue and after several attempts to get it to stick he used double sided tape on the pad which sticks to the windscreen (no sucker with this lot apart from the one who bought it) his has been stuck for 4 years or so.
Maybe foolishly, I rang Halfords and asked if I did the same would it invalidate any warranty. The first respondent asked me to hold on while she checked and never came back so I asked the second chap the same question and was told it would, indeed, invalidate the warranty. However, he booked me in for Thursday this week (anytime in the day) and if they can't fix it properly then I'll demand a refund.
The jury is out......................
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on December 06, 2022, 03:07:13 PM
I had a Halfords fitted Nextbase dashcam with a suction cup. It would occasionally drop off, but wetting the rubber/plastic cup made it stick for some months.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 06, 2022, 03:09:10 PM
No suction cup with this, Malc, just a somewhat pathetic 1" square adhesive pad
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on December 06, 2022, 03:20:39 PM
I have front and rear Nextbase dashcams. The rear has a, (long), lead which plugs into the front facing camera. Like Malc, mine is stuck to the windscreen with a suction cup. If it ever 'lets go', I do the same and wet the suction cup and stick it back on, although it usually only falls off in very hot weather - so it does not fall off that often! Those 1" square adhesive pads are usually quite good Mick - I presume the 'fitter' gave the windscreen a good clean first.  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 06, 2022, 03:50:49 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on December 06, 2022, 03:20:39 PM
Those 1" square adhesive pads are usually quite good Mick - I presume the 'fitter' gave the windscreen a good clean first.  ;)

Dunno, David. I wasn't going to freeze my 'nads off standing over him and I don't think he'd have appreciated me doing so anyway :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Calnefoxile on December 06, 2022, 04:08:21 PM

I have the 'sticky pad' version and my 'sticky pad' lasted about 1 year before failing, mainly due to the really hot weather this year.

Unfortunately, I couldn't find anything commercial strong enough to hold it, so had to go direct to Nextbase, who sent me a sticky pad for £4.99.

Cheers

Neal.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 06, 2022, 07:00:15 PM
Using anything else would, according to Halfords phoneline, void any warranty.
NextBase seem to know there's an issue as there is a spare pad in the box.
There is a 'hatched' area around the rear view mirror on the Qashqai which might be 'rippled' (I'll check tomorrow) but have, in the meantime, contacted Tech Support at NextBase and await some reply.
My car also has a heated front screen if that has any bearing on things.
I really can't see why using double sided tape on the sticky side of the pad would invalidate a warranty :confused1:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on December 06, 2022, 07:47:37 PM
I am presuming you mean the little black dots Mick

https://www.shirleyautobody.com/2017/05/15/heres-simple-dots-windshields-help-car/#:~:text=These%20dots%20are%20actually%20called,dots%20at%20the%20outer%20edge. (https://www.shirleyautobody.com/2017/05/15/heres-simple-dots-windshields-help-car/#:~:text=These%20dots%20are%20actually%20called,dots%20at%20the%20outer%20edge.)

I have read on a car forum that these black marks, (frits), can hinder suction cups like used on the dashcams, so it is possibly the same for the sticky pads.  :hmmm: It will be interesting to hear what Nextbase have to say.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 06, 2022, 08:04:29 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on December 06, 2022, 07:47:37 PM
I am presuming you mean the little black dots Mick

https://www.shirleyautobody.com/2017/05/15/heres-simple-dots-windshields-help-car/#:~:text=These%20dots%20are%20actually%20called,dots%20at%20the%20outer%20edge. (https://www.shirleyautobody.com/2017/05/15/heres-simple-dots-windshields-help-car/#:~:text=These%20dots%20are%20actually%20called,dots%20at%20the%20outer%20edge.)

I have read on a car forum that these black marks, (frits), can hinder suction cups like used on the dashcams, so it is possibly the same for the sticky pads.  :hmmm: It will be interesting to hear what Nextbase have to say.

That's the stuff, David. I believe in the UK they're known as Pom Frits :-X
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on December 06, 2022, 08:09:29 PM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:

Now you are talking double dutch - or sumfink.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 06, 2022, 08:12:26 PM
Yeah, I know. It would maybe have been better off in the 'Groaners' :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on December 06, 2022, 08:16:55 PM
Sorry Mick, you words have to be of a certain calibre to get in the 'Groaners' and those were too good. Sorry, did I say 'good' ........... that is not the word I meant I just can't think of the right word at the moment.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on December 06, 2022, 11:01:42 PM
Quote from: Calnefoxile on December 06, 2022, 04:08:21 PM

I have the 'sticky pad' version and my 'sticky pad' lasted about 1 year before failing, mainly due to the really hot weather this year.

Unfortunately, I couldn't find anything commercial strong enough to hold it, so had to go direct to Nextbase, who sent me a sticky pad for £4.99.

Cheers

Neal.

Probably the special sticky pads used for sticking rear-view mirrors onto windscreens.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on December 06, 2022, 11:35:36 PM
The interior rear view mirror in the old car would fall off on a regular basis. Try driving through Sydney with no rear vision mirror! It actually happened to me... the bloody thing dropped off as I was in peak traffic.

One of the first things I checked when we picked up the new car was the integrity of the mirror!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on December 07, 2022, 05:31:47 PM
I can't imagine that a bit of double sided tape stuck to their adhesive pad can ever invalidate a warranty. It's not like you are dismantling the darned thing. Just do it Mick.
Assuming you don't mind letting the camera go if you sell the car, superglue it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: kesdrive on December 07, 2022, 05:50:46 PM
Had a dizzy spell a couple of weeks ago and passed out on the floor. Wife calls ambulance. Told none available will have to wait hours.
Ambulance finally turned up from neighbouring area at 4 a.m. 6 3/4 hours after call. I was classed in same category as heart attack victims and strokes!
To cut a long story short i need more tests as i have anemia but cause as yet unknown. Doctor asks me to book blood test and follow up appointment.
I ring surgery for appointment. After over 2 minutes of going through their menu i was told my call was unsuccessful!
So go to surgery. No appointments until January. Finally get 'cancellation' for blood test this thursday. No appointment  available for follow up to discuss results!
Ask to speak to nurse practitioner to discuss my blood pressure medication, which is all over the place due to my condition. Told they are to be seen only in emergencies.
My GP has been advertising for a doctor since the summer. No applicants. The neighbouring surgery (in the same building) has 2 doctors retiring at end of year. No replacements.
Health secretary on TV today spouting that they have hundreds of extra GPs and you can book appointments. What world are they living in.

:veryangry:

Chris
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on December 07, 2022, 06:18:31 PM
Our local council has stopped providing the disposable bags for food, they say they are too expensive. So so much for re-cycling in this area, Bury Lancs. So back to just throwing food waste with the general waste.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: woodbury22uk on December 07, 2022, 07:29:09 PM
Quote from: lil chris on December 07, 2022, 06:18:31 PM
Our local council has stopped providing the disposable bags for food, they say they are too expensive. So so much for re-cycling in this area, Bury Lancs. So back to just throwing food waste with the general waste.

I use a green cone which takes any food waste including bones. The level of material in mine goes down as quickly as I add stuff. I have had it for about 10 years. The "digested" stuff gets absorbed into the soil, even on my heavy clay. It was relatively inexpensive when I bought it, and seems to be out of stock until after Christmas now.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on December 07, 2022, 11:13:44 PM
I have 2 green cones otherwise known as compost bins. Unfortunately they rarely get used as food doesn't get a chance to be wasted in my house  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on December 08, 2022, 09:24:19 AM
Good idea but slight problem I do not have a garden just a back yard, well never mind.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on December 08, 2022, 09:59:44 AM
with a bicycle and a mangle ?

reference to Porridge  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: TrevL on December 08, 2022, 11:49:54 AM
Quote from: lil chris on December 08, 2022, 09:24:19 AM
Good idea but slight problem I do not have a garden just a back yard, well never mind.

FYI, Lidl sell biodegradable caddy liners (food bin liners) at £1.65 for a 20 pack.  We get them all the time as our council are always "out of stock".
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 08, 2022, 01:45:40 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 06, 2022, 07:00:15 PM
Using anything else would, according to Halfords phoneline, void any warranty.
NextBase seem to know there's an issue as there is a spare pad in the box.
There is a 'hatched' area around the rear view mirror on the Qashqai which might be 'rippled' (I'll check tomorrow) but have, in the meantime, contacted Tech Support at NextBase and await some reply.
My car also has a heated front screen if that has any bearing on things.
I really can't see why using double sided tape on the sticky side of the pad would invalidate a warranty :confused1:

Well, the Halfords helpline told me they'd made an 'anytime' visit at the Chorley branch for today (Thursday) so I defrosted the car and trundled down there to find the dash cam man doesn't work Thursdays so I have to go back at 3pm tomorrow ::) :censored:
Absolutely no reply from the NextBase tech support either  :poop:

@dannyboy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4209) @Malc (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=497)
I pushed the unit back onto my windscreen Tuesday morning and travelled some pretty shonky roads yesterday and it's still holding on. May have found the problem, though. I took this pic an hour ago and it appears the pad is not fully seated on the windscreen as can be seen from the different colours of the pad (you may need to enlarge the pic) so I'll show it to the guy tomorrow. It's also clear of the 'frits' (Star Wars - the Return of the Frits) :D
OK, so it's my effort not fully seated but at least I got it to stick for more than 60 miles!

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/128/264-081222133118-1283111349.jpeg)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on December 08, 2022, 02:19:52 PM
Looking at the picture Mick it looks like that there is some missing adhesive or that there is air trapped between the pad and the windscreen.  :hmmm: Those sticky pads are usually very effective. I have used them in the past to stick a rear view mirror to the screen, (as someone else mentioned).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on December 08, 2022, 04:19:04 PM
The little green sticky pads Ford sell for their mirrors are very good, just make sure the windscreen is clean use some isop off the railway.

Re the Doctors surgery I have same problem, mine is taking no appointments till the 19th December. They have shut down the Ask my gap app, I only want a B12 injection. So it is no wonder the hospitals are bearing the brunt of the problems with large queues.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: kesdrive on December 08, 2022, 11:07:06 PM
I too have B12 injections and the nurse makes my next appointment each time i have injection (every 3 months)

I have visited my surgery a lot over the last few months and the waiting room is pretty much empty on each visit.

There is a notice at reception stating that there are over 500 missed appointments during October.

Missed appointments, empty waiting rooms, can't get an appointment?

I am at a loss.

Chris
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: JasonBz on December 08, 2022, 11:13:01 PM
Quote from: njee20 on December 06, 2022, 08:26:44 AM
I'd like to see strike action like Japanese bus drivers - run the service, but collect no fares. I resent being a pawn in their negotiation, as I have no sway in it. Fine, hold your employer to ransom if that's your bag, but not the travelling public, they'll just end up grossly inconvenienced, will go elsewhere, patronage will drop and jobs will go, and I have no sympathy for that.
Doing that (at least in the UK, on the railway) could see one  heading for the sack for breach of contract.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: njee20 on December 08, 2022, 11:17:14 PM
Yep, I know why it doesn't happen, but I also don't really give a damn about that. Sack them for striking. Job jobbed.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on December 08, 2022, 11:40:33 PM
Quote from: JasonBz on December 08, 2022, 11:13:01 PM
Quote from: njee20 on December 06, 2022, 08:26:44 AM
I'd like to see strike action like Japanese bus drivers - run the service, but collect no fares. I resent being a pawn in their negotiation, as I have no sway in it. Fine, hold your employer to ransom if that's your bag, but not the travelling public, they'll just end up grossly inconvenienced, will go elsewhere, patronage will drop and jobs will go, and I have no sympathy for that.
Doing that (at least in the UK, on the railway) could see one  heading for the sack for breach of contract.

Isn't refusing to work (striking) also a breach of contract? It would be in my job.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: woodbury22uk on December 09, 2022, 08:23:19 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on December 08, 2022, 11:40:33 PM


Isn't refusing to work (striking) also a breach of contract? It would be in my job.

Seems that striking is an activity heavily regulated by laws amended by parliament from time to time.

https://www.gov.uk/industrial-action-strikes/your-employment-rights-during-industrial-action (https://www.gov.uk/industrial-action-strikes/your-employment-rights-during-industrial-action)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on December 09, 2022, 09:02:05 AM
We don't have waste food...



We have a dog....
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: PaulCheffus on December 09, 2022, 09:11:36 AM
Quote from: kesdrive on December 08, 2022, 11:07:06 PM

Missed appointments, empty waiting rooms, can't get an appointment?

I am at a loss.

Chris

Hi

Quite straight forward. People book appointments don't turn up. No appointments available for others and empty waiting rooms, simple.

Cheers

Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 09, 2022, 09:55:18 AM
Empty waiting rooms = Blue Peter badge for the GP receptionist whose job it is to prevent you seeing your GP ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on December 09, 2022, 10:06:21 AM
our surgery used to have 'emergency appointments' after the morning surgery,
you turned up,
waited
saw any doctor

then along came Covid and they were stopped.

then we were told no more covid, everything is fine, don't need to wear masks, go where you want, when you want, meet who you want.....

but the emergency appointments never came back  :hmmm:

you still have to wear a mask, which I understand, but you didn't when you were waiting in a room full of sick / contagious people  :hmmm:

SWMBO had a text to say she had only one day left to get her blood pressure done, phoned surgery, listened to the usual 5 minutes about covid, actuall spoke to a human, and was told the nurse did blood pressure, no appointments till end of december, had I not got a machine myself.

my reply of 'no, but perhaps it would be quicker if I did the nurse training and got one' did not seem to go down very well  :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on December 09, 2022, 10:54:05 AM
Our surgeries waiting room is always empty now as 85% of appointments are by phone. It's a pain but less cancellations as if you don't answer the phone it's only wasted seconds of the doctors time and they are able to 'see' more patients every day.
Like I said it can be a pain but being able to talk to a doctor is easier than pre COVID so that's one plus from the pandemic.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: kesdrive on December 09, 2022, 11:59:17 AM
Quote from: thebrighton on December 09, 2022, 10:54:05 AM
Our surgeries waiting room is always empty now as 85% of appointments are by phone. It's a pain but less cancellations as if you don't answer the phone it's only wasted seconds of the doctors time and they are able to 'see' more patients every day.
Like I said it can be a pain but being able to talk to a doctor is easier than pre COVID so that's one plus from the pandemic.

I can't even get a telephone appointment!


Chris
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on December 09, 2022, 12:30:36 PM
it may be my previous incarnations breaking through, but I cannot help but wonder if it isn't a case of....

"can I make an appointment to see the doctor ?"

"sorry, nothing available for xx weeks"

so, either you get better - problem resolved - result
or you die - problem solved - result.

several weeks ago, SWMBO had her tele follow up with the consultant regarding her six month CT scan.
all clear but they did notice an enlarged lumph node which could indicate an infection.

phoned the gp, any chance of an appointment
sorry
could you pass a message to the gp to ask if she should start her standby anti-biotics and steroids
sorry we don't pass messages any more, you need to e-mail us at ....

:veryangry:

scottish water, another scottishwater

e-mailed the same question, by now it is about 4:00pm.
within 20 minutes phone rings, it's the same receptionist ..
can you get your wife down for a 5:00pm appointment
sorry, can't get her down that quickly.
how about a 5:30pm appointment ?
I can manage that
arrived at the surgery, empty waiting room, straight in to see the gp at 5:30pm

:hmmm:
but when I first phoned there were no appointments for weeks  :*(

saw the 'duty gp' who examined her, confirmed that she had an infection, and needed to start he standby meds, and issued a prescription for a replacement set.

when she had not improved after she had finished her meds, phoned again to get an appointment, 'sorry nothing for several days, would you like me to pass a message to the gp ?  :o

doctor phoned within 30 mins, said he thought the antibiotics had not worked, and sent a prescription for a different one over to the pharmacy.
she's on them now, and it seems that she is improving a bit.

so they can act swiftly, there are appointments, it all seems down to whether you speak to the helpful receptionist, or the jobsworth.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: kesdrive on December 09, 2022, 10:40:13 PM
After my blood test yesterday had a text from my GP stating he had found problem and sent a prescription through to my local chemist for me to collect tomorrow.

Better than waiting 3 or 4 weeks for an appointment!

:bounce:

Chris
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 10, 2022, 10:21:57 AM
Nutjobs who can't drive in ice/snow/slush! :veryangry:
I ventured out at 08.30 to fetch my RM, some stamps, a paper along with a coffee at Tesco café and twice within 15 minutes a car was driven too fast up a side street towards the main road road I was on, with the inevitable result they slid out into oncoming traffic.
That's exactly the sort of thing I bought the dashcam for.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on December 10, 2022, 04:55:02 PM
I bought my first dashcam about 5 years ago after nearly being taken out by an artic' and three days later nearly getting hit by somebody who failed to give way. Fortunately I have never needed to use the dashcam 'in anger' since it was fitted, but they are so useful if ever they are needed - you only have to look at some of the clips on YouTube to see how important they can be. I think they should be built into all new cars.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: PaulCheffus on December 10, 2022, 04:58:18 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on December 10, 2022, 04:55:02 PM
I think they should be built into all new cars.

Hi

I agree, however there would be those who say it infringes their rights in some way.

Cheers

Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 10, 2022, 07:42:51 PM
Quote from: PaulCheffus on December 10, 2022, 04:58:18 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on December 10, 2022, 04:55:02 PM
I think they should be built into all new cars.

Hi

I agree, however there would be those who say it infringes their rights in some way.

Cheers

Paul

If they're doing nothing wrong there's nothing to get annoyed about - just like CCTV cameras being everywhere.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on December 10, 2022, 08:58:14 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 10, 2022, 07:42:51 PM
Quote from: PaulCheffus on December 10, 2022, 04:58:18 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on December 10, 2022, 04:55:02 PM
I think they should be built into all new cars.

Hi

I agree, however there would be those who say it infringes their rights in some way.

Cheers

Paul

If they're doing nothing wrong there's nothing to get annoyed about - just like CCTV cameras being everywhere.

I wish! Some eejit knocks on my flat door during the night, not every night maybe twice one week then miss a week, any time between about 1 AM and 6 AM but I'm not alowed to place a camera at the door, data protection act and all that, neverthe less I bought one of the cheapy ones from Amazon  but can't get it to record to a micro SD card and I don't have a mobile phone which it is also supposed to work with.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on December 10, 2022, 09:01:26 PM
I
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 10, 2022, 07:42:51 PM
Quote from: PaulCheffus on December 10, 2022, 04:58:18 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on December 10, 2022, 04:55:02 PM
I think they should be built into all new cars.

Hi

I agree, however there would be those who say it infringes their rights in some way.

Cheers

Paul

If they're doing nothing wrong there's nothing to get annoyed about - just like CCTV cameras being everywhere.

If every car was fitted with a dashcam, you could guarantee that the police would want to see the video from any accident - breaking the rule that you cannot be forced to incriminate yourself, if you were at fault.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: njee20 on December 10, 2022, 09:07:17 PM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on December 10, 2022, 08:58:14 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 10, 2022, 07:42:51 PM
Quote from: PaulCheffus on December 10, 2022, 04:58:18 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on December 10, 2022, 04:55:02 PM
I think they should be built into all new cars.

Hi

I agree, however there would be those who say it infringes their rights in some way.

Cheers

Paul

If they're doing nothing wrong there's nothing to get annoyed about - just like CCTV cameras being everywhere.

I wish! Some eejit knocks on my flat door during the night, not every night maybe twice one week then miss a week, any time between about 1 AM and 6 AM but I'm not alowed to place a camera at the door, data protection act and all that, neverthe less I bought one of the cheapy ones from Amazon  but can't get it to record to a micro SD card and I don't have a mobile phone which it is also supposed to work with.

You sure about that Mike? What about all the houses with video doorbells these days? I've actually got a spare one if it's any use to you? No charge. It's a wired "Ring" model. We have a wireless doorbell, and I just can't stomach wiring it in!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on December 10, 2022, 09:14:40 PM
As far as I know so long as it can only capture what is on your property it's OK, in my case the corridor outside my flat is not part of my property. I think also the fact that I would only use it in record mode, not tied to a phone; the recording of what happens on "public areas" is part of the problem.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 10, 2022, 09:16:33 PM
Quote from: stevewalker on December 10, 2022, 09:01:26 PM
I
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 10, 2022, 07:42:51 PM
Quote from: PaulCheffus on December 10, 2022, 04:58:18 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on December 10, 2022, 04:55:02 PM
I think they should be built into all new cars.

Hi

I agree, however there would be those who say it infringes their rights in some way.

Cheers

Paul

If they're doing nothing wrong there's nothing to get annoyed about - just like CCTV cameras being everywhere.

If every car was fitted with a dashcam, you could guarantee that the police would want to see the video from any accident - breaking the rule that you cannot be forced to incriminate yourself, if you were at fault.

I think the rozzers have enough to be going on with without looking at dashcam footage? :hmmm:
Attending crime scenes might be a start..............
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on December 10, 2022, 11:32:32 PM
Quote from: PaulCheffus on December 10, 2022, 04:58:18 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on December 10, 2022, 04:55:02 PM
I think they should be built into all new cars.

Hi

I agree, however there would be those who say it infringes their rights in some way.

Cheers

Paul

As with most of the internet though, just because they say it, it doesn't mean it's true ;)

It's perfectly within your rights to have CCTV on your property as long as it's not invading another property's privacy. Things like video doorbells etc. are the same. Police can *ask* to borrow footage from your CCTV or doorbell if they think it's caught something useful to do with a crime, but without a warrant they can't demand it. However Amazon already shares data from Ring cameras with local police departments in the US when they request it for investigations and there's pressure from some mayors to make it automatic access for police.

Police can (and do) already use dashcam footage from drivers using them to record idiotic 'speed runs' to convict them, so I'd while the driver doesn't have to say anything, that doesn't apply to anything they've recorded.

Dash cams in all new cars would be a great idea. Apart from acting like a black box in cases of serious accidents and helping drivers avoid blame when other people invariably do something incredibly stupid, it would also make all drivers that bit more wary about being idiots if they know they'll likely be recorded on camera.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on December 12, 2022, 10:29:54 AM
re post by @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)

I think the rozzers have enough to be going on with without looking at dashcam footage? :hmmm:
Attending crime scenes might be a start..............

I seem to remember from a post on here years ago that the way to get plod to attend is to phone up and say you have burgulars ...

"sorry, no one available, if anyone does become available we'll send someone round, but it might be a PCSO tomorrow"

wait five minutes

phone again

"please ignore my previous call, my husband has gone out with his shotgun, it will be sorted soon"

you'll have armed response units all over the road in seconds, you know, the ones that were not available five minute before  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on December 12, 2022, 10:37:04 AM
my moan this morning is on the lines of
councils - gritting - lack of.

snow started to fall yesterday, big fluffy flakes

HB thought they were great  :thumbsup:

and they settled
and continued
and continued
and we ended up with about 2 inches of snow, and a very happy HB

this would, in my day, have resulted in gritters hitting the motorways and A roads, then all bus routes and even farmers out with tractors gritting side roads.
of course that got stopped, they had to pay the farmers, to be replaced by a few yellow bins with salt in for you to do it yourself, with your own shovel.

however, my daughter lives on a bus route in Haywards Heath, no sign of gritters, and no sign of buses either.

I assume the staff carpark at the council offices will have been gritted though.

so today's competion....

has anyone seen either a gritter, or even evidence of one, over the weekend ?

don't all resh to answer at once.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on December 12, 2022, 11:09:22 AM
Had a couple doing the main routes here in North Bristol and I actually used multiple busses successfully yesterday.

Having said that, I didn't venture out in the car as our private section of the drive / road wasn't gritted and neither was the footpath.

I nearly went, as my mother used to say, "base over apex" several times.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: PaulCheffus on December 12, 2022, 11:11:13 AM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on December 12, 2022, 10:37:04 AM


has anyone seen either a gritter, or even evidence of one, over the weekend ?

don't all resh to answer at once.

Hi

Yes last night gritting our roads

Cheers

Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on December 15, 2022, 03:36:35 PM
to be honest, I have really been trying to stay away from here, or if I do post / reply I write it down first, revise, and the toss a coin as to whether or not to post....

but....

today I rad reason [dangerously icy roads [x2] with a downhill 90 degree junction, parked cars and all with polished sheet ice.

now there are quite a few elderly and infirm people living in our road, and yes I am one of them, so it is a not uncommon to see ambulances picking up or dropping off patients here.

I went down to Tesco's this morning, in the forlorn hope that stuff that was out of stock tuesday might be back in stock  :dunce:, and on the way up the road, met a car coming down the road past a row of parked cars, so I stopped to let him through. the driver stopped alongside me and said to watch out on the corner, it like glass.
he then drove off down the road slowly.
I engaged 1st gear just enough revs to not stall the engine, and released my brakes.....

it's amazing to see a Volvo XC70 all wheel drive car sitiing with all four wheels slowly spinning  :-[

it's great in 6 inches of snow, but sheet ice it is   :hmmm: well 'sheet'. >:(

managed to back down a bit, turn round, and went off out of the bottom of the road.

on my return I decided to see if we could get a bit of grit / salt on at least the corner before someone parked their fire engine / ambulance / home shopping van / car in someone's front room.

town council ...."we only salt pavements, but we are not today, all off sick, try Mid Sussex"

Mid Sussex ..."is it the road or the pavement ?" both " have you tried the town council for the pavement ?"
yes, they referred me to you.
"oh, we don't do roads, have you tried West Sussex ?"

click brrrr 1..2...3...
West Sussex highways ...after 4 minutes of  :-X options  "is it an A road or a B road ?"
it's residential
"Oh we don't grit them, only A & B roads"

:headbutt: :headbutt: :headbutt: :headbutt: :headbutt: :headbutt: :headbutt: :headbutt:

your honour, I will curtail my rant at this point, and seek solace in scottish water, yet again  :*( :*( :*(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on December 15, 2022, 03:46:11 PM
@Browning 9mm (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=10229)

So long as you are safe and warm, you have also done you best to be a good citizen in the face of obvious Incompetence (with a capital I).

All you can now do is take note of who you spoke to and when, so that if and when something unpleasant was to happen you can sight evidence.

Unbelievable that after a week or so of cold the roads cannot be safe.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 15, 2022, 03:56:01 PM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on December 15, 2022, 03:36:35 PM
your honour, I will curtail my rant at this point, and seek solace in scottish water, yet again  :*( :*( :*(

Note - seeking solace in Scottish water and driving on any road (perfectly dry or icy) is not to be condoned ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on December 15, 2022, 03:58:58 PM
when we moved here in '97 the highways did the main roads and bus routes, and a local farmer used to do the residential roads with a tractor with a gritter on the back.
might not be till the second or even third day.
and the town council would do the pavements

course someone had to pay the farmer,  :hmmm:
and the council had to buy grit/salt :hmmm:

but it worked.

local highways depots, remember them ?, would send out road gangs with tippers full of grit/salt with a couple of guys in the back with shovels, or demountable gritting inserts instead.

of course now no local depots, no council road gangs, and no chance of getting anything done, by the look of it.

what a shower of incompetent  :-X there are in charge now.

wonder if they will worry though when it's time to up the council tax, and people say 'no chance, we don't even have safe roads in winter'.

oh, and yes, yours truely did advise the west sussex highways 'advisor' that I was noting her name, and the time and content of my call, and that in the event of any incident, sworn copies would be provided to any persons involved for the purposes of any litigation ensuing  :bounce:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on December 15, 2022, 04:00:49 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 15, 2022, 03:56:01 PM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on December 15, 2022, 03:36:35 PM
your honour, I will curtail my rant at this point, and seek solace in scottish water, yet again  :*( :*( :*(

Note - seeking solace in Scottish water and driving on any road (perfectly dry or icy) is not to be condoned ;)

your honour,
my vehicule is safly parked on my front garden, though I may need to plead later to being DICOAH


drunk in charge of a huskie  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on December 15, 2022, 04:02:47 PM
It's about a mile and a half from our house to the first road that is ever gritted and that's rarely, another 2.5 miles to roads which are regularly gritted.
That being said last night's rain hail and snow sat on top of any grit used and it was extremely slippery all the 25 miles  into work.
Thankfully I'll never have to do that again
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on December 15, 2022, 07:01:23 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 15, 2022, 03:56:01 PM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on December 15, 2022, 03:36:35 PM
your honour, I will curtail my rant at this point, and seek solace in scottish water, yet again  :*( :*( :*(

Note - seeking solace in Scottish water and driving on any road (perfectly dry or icy) is not to be condoned ;)

Definitely not advised. Doing them both at the same time will only have one outcome if you come across any 'sheet' - you will spill your drink!

Legal footnote. I am in no way suggesting or advocating that people do them both together - do one after the other, in the correct order.  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on December 16, 2022, 03:12:29 PM
Well, having had a delivery of three items stuck in Evri's system for three weeks, the supplier cancelled the order and we bought elsewhere. However, I probably now know what is going on - today I arrived home from work and found 5 parcels, to random addresses, in more than one town, dumped on our driveway. I have tried to phone and webchat Evri about them, but every option is filtered through a chatbot - which won't let you proceed without a tracking number and so I can't even report them as dumped!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 16, 2022, 04:56:45 PM
I was only reading earlier of a mass of parcels stolen from the Evri depot at Maidstone which had then been fly tipped. (Not Maidstone - the parcels)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: acook on December 16, 2022, 06:15:05 PM
NN don't give RM ideas about solving thier backlog..............
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 16, 2022, 09:17:20 PM
Quote from: acook on December 16, 2022, 06:15:05 PM
NN don't give RM ideas about solving thier backlog..............

Seems you've managed to totally confuse @Browning 9mm (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=10229) as he's rated the above post with a like, a dislike and an agree :-X
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on December 16, 2022, 09:29:29 PM
your honour,
I plead age / digital interface malfunction.

I have corrected my 'score' to the correct ones.

I crave your pardon, m'lud :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on December 17, 2022, 12:06:49 PM

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Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on December 22, 2022, 11:05:07 AM
What a rip off! I may have vented about the price of Tesco's Stockwell brand Wheat biscuits at  £0.75 for a 24 pack as against Weetabix at £3.25 les than 1g difference in size of bix, little if any difference in taste or texture so is a brand name worth 4 times the price?
If you think that's bad I just got a pack of 4 refilled toner cartridges for an OKI colour laser from Amazon cost £35.50, compared to Printerland's £377 for genuine OKI ones, previous refills from another supplier have been around £120. So now my A4 prints will cost 1.7p each.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on December 22, 2022, 12:40:43 PM
Staying with the cereal theme at Tesco - 'Rice Snaps' 375g €1.19, Kelloggs Rice Krispies 340g €3.00! There is no way I can tell the difference.  "is a brand name worth 4 times the price?" you ask Mike. Trying to explain things like this to Louisa, as she is an advertisement agency's dream, I say, "Who is paying for the advertising?", which usually illicits the response, "Ahbut it is nicer". In most cases that is a load of old round things. Cat food is another case in point, 'Whiskas' pouches are €17.00 for a box of 40, Tesco own label are €3.30 for a box of 12 - yet go to Aldi and I can get a box of 48 pouches for €9.99.  More than ever, it pays to shop around!  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 22, 2022, 02:04:43 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on December 22, 2022, 12:40:43 PM
Cat food is another case in point, 'Whiskas' pouches are €17.00 for a box of 40, Tesco own label are €3.30 for a box of 12 - yet go to Aldi and I can get a box of 48 pouches for €9.99.  More than ever, it pays to shop around!  :)

@dannyboy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4209)
I tried very hard to get Hookey to eat what I'd started him off on (Felix pouches) so tried Whiskas (not a lot cheaper) and Tescos own brand (much cheaper) and he just turned his nose up and refused so I had to give them away. Cheapest ain't necessarily the right economy :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on December 22, 2022, 02:17:08 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 22, 2022, 02:04:43 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on December 22, 2022, 12:40:43 PM
Cat food is another case in point, 'Whiskas' pouches are €17.00 for a box of 40, Tesco own label are €3.30 for a box of 12 - yet go to Aldi and I can get a box of 48 pouches for €9.99.  More than ever, it pays to shop around!  :)

@dannyboy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4209)
I tried very hard to get Hookey to eat what I'd started him off on (Felix pouches) so tried Whiskas (not a lot cheaper) and Tescos own brand (much cheaper) and he just turned his nose up and refused so I had to give them away. Cheapest ain't necessarily the right economy :no:

The other issue with cat food is the cheaper brands put in additives and fillers, resulting in a cat food which 'may' be detrimental to your animals health, and possibly incur extra veterinary expense or worse, shorten their life. There's little in the way of nutritional, ingredient regulation for pet foods, unlike foods for human consumption.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on December 22, 2022, 02:22:42 PM
I appreciate that cats, like humans, have their own individualties and preferences. If a cat will not eat a particular brand or flavour then so be it. I always said that Heinz soups were the bestest ever. My Sister, on one of my trips back home, gave me a a bowl of tomato soup. I remarked how nice it was and she told me it was from Aldi! So now, tomato soup is bought from Aldi, but other Heinz Cream Of varieties, I do tend to get from Asda  on our trips to Enniskillen. The Aldi soup is 57 cent in the Republic and Heinz is £1, (if on offer), in Asda. Having said all that, we have bought a soup maker contraption thingy, so we can live on cheap soup now - sprouting spuds - throw 'em in, veggies passed their best - throw 'em in! (Note to self - get some more carrots when shopping tomorrow!).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on December 22, 2022, 02:27:08 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 22, 2022, 02:04:43 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on December 22, 2022, 12:40:43 PM
Cat food is another case in point, 'Whiskas' pouches are €17.00 for a box of 40, Tesco own label are €3.30 for a box of 12 - yet go to Aldi and I can get a box of 48 pouches for €9.99.  More than ever, it pays to shop around!  :)

@dannyboy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4209)
I tried very hard to get Hookey to eat what I'd started him off on (Felix pouches) so tried Whiskas (not a lot cheaper) and Tescos own brand (much cheaper) and he just turned his nose up and refused so I had to give them away. Cheapest ain't necessarily the right economy :no:

no such problems with HB, he'll eat anything....
only problem with him is he will not settle down at night till he's had a mint humbug  :*(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 22, 2022, 02:27:41 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on December 22, 2022, 02:22:42 PM
we have bought a soup maker contraption thingy, so we can live on cheap soup now - sprouting spuds - throw 'em in,

Yeuch :sick:
Please stop cross breeding brussel sprouts and spuds :stop:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on December 22, 2022, 02:30:04 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on December 22, 2022, 02:17:08 PM

There's little in the way of nutritional, ingredient regulation for pet foods, unlike foods for human consumption.

I did look into this aspect of pet food a while back @emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604) . There is quite a lot of regulation. Just the first page found in a search -
https://europeanpetfood.org/self-regulation/legislation/
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on December 22, 2022, 03:10:28 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on December 22, 2022, 02:30:04 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on December 22, 2022, 02:17:08 PM

There's little in the way of nutritional, ingredient regulation for pet foods, unlike foods for human consumption.

I did look into this aspect of pet food a while back @emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604) . There is quite a lot of regulation. Just the first page found in a search -
https://europeanpetfood.org/self-regulation/legislation/ (https://europeanpetfood.org/self-regulation/legislation/)

Most of the regulations are as much to ensure it won't poison humans if ingested as anything. Its still a very small amount of regulation compared to human food.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on December 22, 2022, 09:08:06 PM
I worked in a pizza factory in Thame, Oxon.

There were seperate production lines for supermarket pizzas and Marks & Spencers pizzas.

If you pay less, you get less.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: javlinfaw7 on December 22, 2022, 09:51:34 PM
My mother worked in a biscuit factory that also supplied M&S as well as their own brand.
They had a seperate line for Marks and though the recipes and size was identical to their own brand ,M&S had a higher quality control and had their own inspectors visit normally unannounced
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on December 22, 2022, 09:57:57 PM
Quote from: joe cassidy on December 22, 2022, 09:08:06 PM
I worked in a pizza factory in Thame, Oxon.

There were seperate production lines for supermarket pizzas and Marks & Spencers pizzas.

If you pay less, you get less.


I think that's the Dominos effect

Quote from: javlinfaw7 on December 22, 2022, 09:51:34 PM
My mother worked in a biscuit factory that also supplied M&S as well as their own brand.
They had a seperate line for Marks and though the recipes and size was identical to their own brand ,M&S had a higher quality control and had their own inspectors visit normally unannounced

And that's just taking the biscuit.

I think I need to go and watch some telly  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on December 22, 2022, 10:02:02 PM
Or drink some beer, watching the trains go round - trainscendental meditation  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on December 23, 2022, 01:07:54 PM
Quote from: joe cassidy on December 22, 2022, 10:02:02 PM
Or drink some beer, .......................... :)

This sounds like the better option. 3 hours 43 minutes and counting. I may have to have a little warmer before I leave the house though  :beers:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on December 23, 2022, 06:29:59 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on December 23, 2022, 01:07:54 PM
Quote from: joe cassidy on December 22, 2022, 10:02:02 PM
Or drink some beer, .......................... :)

This sounds like the better option. 3 hours 43 minutes and counting. I may have to have a little warmer before I leave the house though  :beers:

or put some trousers on  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on December 24, 2022, 12:59:46 AM
Trousers? Not sure I have any of those  :cold:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on December 24, 2022, 02:13:51 PM
Tights ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on December 24, 2022, 02:46:31 PM
Quote from: joe cassidy on December 24, 2022, 02:13:51 PM
Tights ?

Is my webcam still running?  :goggleeyes: :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on December 24, 2022, 03:04:42 PM
Herons. I'm angry with  :censored: herons. Well, maybe just 1  :censored: heron but I'm still angry with it.

Here it is sussing out my pond on Thursday



Then it steals 1 of my goldfish!



Then it came back on Friday to look for more fish!



If it punctures my new pond liner then I'll be looking for a shotgun  :veryangry:

Then this morning I walked up the garden, heard a lot of wing flapping and it flew off before I could shout at it. I don't think we have any fish left now. And no, before anyone suggests putting a net over it, that's not happening as it detracts from the look of the pond. If and when we put more fish in there I may reconsider though. Trust me, as seen in the videos, the plastic decoy heron doesn't work  :*(  I will look at standing it in the pond though in the summer.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on December 24, 2022, 04:18:21 PM
@Trainfish (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=262) Herons are not my favourite birds either John! Up to about two years ago, I had approximately 30 fish in the pond, including half a dozen Koi, two pf which were virtually 12 inches in length. Then along comes the heron. I of course, told it to go away, which it did, only to return the following day. I am not sure if it brought its mates and they had a party, but about 20 fish disappeared. The following day, I was in the garden looking for some netting or something I could protect the pond with, when I heard the wings flapping away. I ran over to the pond and the heron was just taking flight with one of the large Koi in its beak. It dropped the Koi, but it was bleeding and did not survive. That fish was almost pure white and looked to be a beautiful specimen.  After that, I had the one 12 inch Koi, which is mainly black, and four goldfish - but now I have six goldfish, so I think a couple must having been having their own party last year! The heron had never been back.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on December 24, 2022, 04:26:22 PM
The  :censored: just came back! Why? There's no  :censored: ing fish left! The thieving  :censored:  :veryangry:

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on December 24, 2022, 04:33:30 PM
@dannyboy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4209) That's why we only ever have £1.75 goldfish in there. I don't really want a net so I'll stick with cheap fish for now. A couple of years or so ago we had around 40 goldfish and they all vanished in a couple of days  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on December 24, 2022, 04:46:37 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on December 24, 2022, 04:33:30 PM
@dannyboy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4209) That's why we only ever have £1.75 goldfish in there. I don't really want a net so I'll stick with cheap fish for now. A couple of years or so ago we had around 40 goldfish and they all vanished in a couple of days  :veryangry:

have you considered restocking with Piranhas  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on December 24, 2022, 05:07:55 PM
Now that's an idea. Unfortunately the cats have been known to drink out of the pond (a couple have even fallen in) so we may end up with tongueless cats  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on December 24, 2022, 05:20:23 PM
Heron = turkey with long legs ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on December 29, 2022, 02:58:45 PM
I've been having problems with some eejit knocking on my door in the night, not every night sometimes twice a week other times they miss a couple of weeks. So I've invested in one of the video doorbells and anAlexa hoping to get a sight of the perpetrator.
It turns out that these things also require an android or fire stick to work, I found an android emulator to run on my PC but Google will not allow a download of their app except to an actual registered Android device, so I've now ordered the cheapest Fire stick and hope that will do the job.
You would think that the set up should also work with a PC, not being "held to ransom" to purchase another device costing anything from £299 to over a thousand for just one app, at least the cgeapest Fire stick is only £29.99
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on December 29, 2022, 04:24:45 PM
Ask an electrician to wire your doorbell up to the mains such that when you go to bed you just switch it on and then off when you get up >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on December 29, 2022, 04:58:46 PM
I know enough about electrics & electronics to do that myself, however as I lie in to about 10.30/11.00 most mornings (often still awake until 3AM) it might affect the postie or other legit callers.
If I could get out of bed and to the door in less time than it takes eejit to cross the corridor and vanish up the emergency stairs opposite my door I would have had this sorted ages ago. I don't even know if it is an eejit or eejitess, we have both in residence
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on December 29, 2022, 05:03:00 PM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on December 29, 2022, 04:58:46 PM
I know enough about electrics & electronics to do that myself, however as I lie in to about 10.30/11.00 most mornings (often still awake until 3AM) it might affect the postie or other legit callers.
If I could get out of bed and to the door in less time than it takes eejit to cross the corridor and vanish up the emergency stairs opposite my door I would have had this sorted ages ago. I don't even know if it is an eejit or eejitess, we have both in residence

You can get very cheap digital still cameras from China.  Get one and wire it to the door bell.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on December 29, 2022, 05:16:40 PM
Having just bought a video doorbell and Alexa after finding that the mini cameras that save images to a micro SD card can not be used in this building - infringes some part of the data protection act by storing images of public spaces such as the corridors here or some such twaddle.
I now find that the video doorbells need Android or Fire devices to work with Alexa. I now also find that there is a video doorbell that works with a PC however lugging the PC, monitor, keyboard and mouse to the bedroom every night is not a viable option.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on December 29, 2022, 05:28:51 PM
Can you use something like this? (https://www.amazon.co.uk/blink-video-doorbell-two-way-audio-hd-video-motion-and-chime-app-alerts-easy-setup-and-alexa-enabled/dp/B08SG68DY9/ref=asc_df_B08SG68DY9?tag=bingshoppinga-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=80058318275950&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4583657841759304&psc=1) I have 5 Blink cameras which are great in good light, not so good in the dark I admit.

Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on December 29, 2022, 05:58:35 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on December 29, 2022, 05:28:51 PM
Can you use something like this? (https://www.amazon.co.uk/blink-video-doorbell-two-way-audio-hd-video-motion-and-chime-app-alerts-easy-setup-and-alexa-enabled/dp/B08SG68DY9/ref=asc_df_B08SG68DY9?tag=bingshoppinga-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=80058318275950&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4583657841759304&psc=1) I have 5 Blink cameras which are great in good light, not so good in the dark I admit.
That's the doorbell I have, problem is getting it to work, I have no mobile phone, Android or fire stick one or other of which appears to be necessary for operation, I have PCs and laptops all running Windows 7 pro 64 bit, it ought to be possible to operate a video doorbell without all the addiional hardware, Alexa set up with no problems (so far, touch wood)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on December 29, 2022, 09:44:36 PM
Ah ok, I didn't realise that's the 1 you have. You're right, it doesn't connect to a PC but us young 'uns are used to using a mobile phone for everything these days. I do have an old iPhone 5 (I think it's a 5 anyway). If you're interested I can see if the software works on that for my system and if it does you can have it for yours. Just let me know and I'll test it in the next few days.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on December 29, 2022, 10:22:27 PM
I've got a Fire stick coming tomorrow which is supposed to work with it, just have to wait and see if that works, it's the cheapest option at £29.99.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Intercity on January 04, 2023, 12:20:52 PM
Got my package of class 90s, only to find it had already been opened and I've received 4 empty jewel cases, roll on 2024 as the first day of the year I totaled my car.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 04, 2023, 12:31:16 PM
Quote from: Intercity on January 04, 2023, 12:20:52 PM
Got my package of class 90s, only to find it had already been opened and I've received 4 empty jewel cases, roll on 2024 as the first day of the year I totaled my car.

That is, as they say, shocking.

Have you raised the issue with the shop / vendor? Staggering to think such blatant theft is going on!

Sorry ref your car as well.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on January 06, 2023, 01:25:19 AM
Quote from: Intercity on January 04, 2023, 12:20:52 PM
Got my package of class 90s, only to find it had already been opened and I've received 4 empty jewel cases, roll on 2024 as the first day of the year I totaled my car.

Maybe doesn't help much but there's a box of stuff sitting on my dining room table with your name on it. I have no idea what's in it yet but will do the usual checks, tests etc at the weekend  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Intercity on January 06, 2023, 03:44:49 AM
Emailed the vendor with the issue, waiting to hear back, also messaged to postal service but they will just say they delivered a package!!!!

That box on your table should have spare pantographs, a few HAAs, a couple spare chassis and a slow/poor running class 108!!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 17, 2023, 03:28:19 PM
Another complaint about Evri (the new Herpes).
They were delivering something earlier than expected and though they bombarded me with e mails I was unavoidably out. Got back about 14.30 - no parcel, no card, nowt.
½ hour later the next door neighbour dropped the parcel round. I explained there was no card informing me or I'd have gone to his and collected it.

Edit:- they e mailed me to say it was next door but, as I was out, this was not much help.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on January 25, 2023, 10:26:24 PM
I'm looking for a ribbon cable to connect between a Kato turntable and its controller, Traintrax are asking £20.20, yet Amazon have  similar items, 5 for £9.99, only problem is the Amazon sockets are 2rows of4 pins whereas the Kato is 1 row of 8. Does anybody know of another source of connector, the Train trax price is ridiculous. As the sayting goes I don't mind a joke but you know what to do with a pantomime
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: lil chris on February 09, 2023, 11:30:00 PM
I have sold a music instrument on E-bay, the buyer paid and received the item the next day from me and marked has delivered. I even helped the buyer register the product with the manufactorer. But E-Bay have put my payment on hold till the 17th of the month, they do not answer messages sent to them either, very annoying. After my last experience with them I said I would not use them again, last time I was surpossed to get reduced selling fees. Well I mean it this time once I have been paid they can get lost, had enough of them not a happy experience using them.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on March 01, 2023, 04:56:41 PM
Very annoyed with my son's school. I received a message (too late to call them back today), that my son had received an immediate 30 minutes, after-school detention for being late and that he would be monitored and subject to longer detentions if he is late in the next two weeks.

This is despite the school knowing that the council have closed a road for maintenance work and that the diversion is not suitable for buses, so his bus is completing two thirds of its journey, then having to turn back for more than a 1/3 of its route and take another route that takes it along a very congested main road. The combination is delaying the bus for a  half to three quarters of an hour, every day and will continue to do so.

I will be calling them tomorrow and refusing to let them give him any more detentions for being late, while this work goes on and pointing out that catching an earlier bus is not an option, as he already has to get up at 7 am to catch the bus.

Even worse is that his older brother is in sixth form at the same school and has been informed that he will not receive any punishment or late marks on his record, if he is late during the next two weeks.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on March 01, 2023, 05:06:40 PM
QuoteEven worse is that his older brother is in sixth form at the same school and has been informed that he will not receive any punishment or late marks on his record, if he is late during the next two weeks.


That's the key point to lead with I would suggest. It makes their argument untenable, because they have said an older student who (and I am not saying this to be the case, just making an example) technically could be expected to be more responsible and plan for such diversions (yes I know, not possible in this case, just a hypothetical) does not need to.

Hopefully it won't come to it but I would check into Governor's contact details.

Skyline2uk   
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 01, 2023, 06:25:41 PM
It smacks of madness on behalf of the school. They no doubt believe it's your fault for choosing to live where you do ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Graham on March 01, 2023, 10:43:51 PM
sounds like schools are the same on both sides of the world. 2 of my grandchildren have just been told they can no longer use the special school bus. They have to use public transport. Now the school bus passes the end of their street and goes straight to the school, some 12km away. The public bus system means they have to go via the local hub making a 35km round trip. Son in law rings school to see if they still want grandchildren in the school. We await an outcome.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on March 03, 2023, 02:37:09 PM
nearly six months ago I sent back to Royal Snail a book of 1st class stamps to be exchanged for their latest scam of having a barcode on them. still not had the replacements.

looks like another way of getting our hard earned money for nothing.

if you pone them calls are taking over 30 mins to be answered, and it is not of course a freephone number.

:veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on March 03, 2023, 02:59:33 PM
Mine came back in 5 weeks.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 03, 2023, 08:18:51 PM
Had my car pinched in the early hours this morning. I don't know how the managed it as the remotes are inside a Faraday pouch at the back of the house and the car was on the front drive. An app called my Toyota told me where it was, so I called the police to let them know. They told me to steal it back as long as it was safe to do so, so I did. It was parked in a communal parking lot in a cul-de-sac. They trashed the insides looking for a tracker, but it's integral to the sat nav. They did pinch my dash cam and a bag of loose change for parking meters. Hopefully they can fix it soonish as the hire car I'm getting will be very snug.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Skyline2uk on March 03, 2023, 10:15:13 PM
Quote from: Malc on March 03, 2023, 08:18:51 PM
Had my car pinched in the early hours this morning. I don't know how the managed it as the remotes are inside a Faraday pouch at the back of the house and the car was on the front drive. An app called my Toyota told me where it was, so I called the police to let them know. They told me to steal it back as long as it was safe to do so, so I did. It was parked in a communal parking lot in a cul-de-sac. They trashed the insides looking for a tracker, but it's integral to the sat nav. They did pinch my dash cam and a bag of loose change for parking meters. Hopefully they can fix it soonish as the hire car I'm getting will be very snug.

Good grief.

Does the car have some for of app that can enable entry? If so I would change all your passwords etc.

I fear for modern motoring.

Kudos to you for being able to get it back, amazing the police said "steal it back so long as it's safe", wouldn't have been surprised if they said "here is an crime number for the insurance good luck".

What a world.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: tunneroner61 on March 03, 2023, 11:39:09 PM
My stamps came back in 3 weeks.

Why is barcoding the new stamps a scam?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 04, 2023, 12:24:29 AM
No @Skyline2uk (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1081) , it uses a key fob. As long as you have it near the car, you can touch the door handle and it unlocks. The car sends tracking data which you can look at using the app on your phone or iPad. I don't know how it sends the data, but I'm glad it did. As the electrics are shot, I can't lock it, so the insurance company LV= had it collected and will store it safely and drop it off at the main dealer on Tuesday. Just waiting for my courtesy car. It will be something the size of a Fiat 500 and I'm 6'2" tall.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on March 04, 2023, 12:37:08 AM
Tuck your knees up, Malc!  ;) :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on March 04, 2023, 01:32:04 AM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on March 01, 2023, 05:06:40 PM
QuoteEven worse is that his older brother is in sixth form at the same school and has been informed that he will not receive any punishment or late marks on his record, if he is late during the next two weeks.


That's the key point to lead with I would suggest. It makes their argument untenable, because they have said an older student who (and I am not saying this to be the case, just making an example) technically could be expected to be more responsible and plan for such diversions (yes I know, not possible in this case, just a hypothetical) does not need to.

Hopefully it won't come to it but I would check into Governor's contact details.

Skyline2uk   
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on March 04, 2023, 01:38:34 AM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on March 01, 2023, 05:06:40 PM
QuoteEven worse is that his older brother is in sixth form at the same school and has been informed that he will not receive any punishment or late marks on his record, if he is late during the next two weeks.


That's the key point to lead with I would suggest. It makes their argument untenable, because they have said an older student who (and I am not saying this to be the case, just making an example) technically could be expected to be more responsible and plan for such diversions (yes I know, not possible in this case, just a hypothetical) does not need to.

Hopefully it won't come to it but I would check into Governor's contact details.

Skyline2uk   

Fortunately, I finally managed to get through to someone (who wasn't in on the day involved), in Pupil Services and got any threat of further actions removed. Luckily, the message about detention had not got to our son (we received it by text), so he hadn't attended the detention.

There is a possibility that a new system has caused the problem, as we received another text later on, informing us that a new, automated, late system had been put in place that day.

It was pretty crazy though, as the roadworks would have affected a number of buses and they would have had a hundred or more pupils late that day, just from that.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on March 04, 2023, 08:43:36 AM
Quote from: tunneroner61 on March 03, 2023, 11:39:09 PM
My stamps came back in 3 weeks.

Why is barcoding the new stamps a scam?

think of all the thousands of people with one or two stamps left that they cannot now use, although paid fore, and which are not worth going to the trouble of getting the form and sending them back. nice little earner for RM
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on March 04, 2023, 10:39:24 AM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on March 04, 2023, 08:43:36 AM
Quote from: tunneroner61 on March 03, 2023, 11:39:09 PM
My stamps came back in 3 weeks.

Why is barcoding the new stamps a scam?

think of all the thousands of people with one or two stamps left that they cannot now use, although paid fore, and which are not worth going to the trouble of getting the form and sending them back. nice little earner for RM

Give them to one of the charities converting them in bulk.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: NScaleNotes on March 04, 2023, 10:51:28 AM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on March 04, 2023, 08:43:36 AM
Quote from: tunneroner61 on March 03, 2023, 11:39:09 PM
My stamps came back in 3 weeks.

Why is barcoding the new stamps a scam?

think of all the thousands of people with one or two stamps left that they cannot now use, although paid fore, and which are not worth going to the trouble of getting the form and sending them back. nice little earner for RM

You can still use them. They extended the deadline to July 2023:
https://www.royalmail.com/sending/barcoded-stamps (https://www.royalmail.com/sending/barcoded-stamps)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on March 04, 2023, 04:18:17 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on March 03, 2023, 10:15:13 PM
.................amazing the police said "steal it back so long as it's safe", ...................

Skyline2uk

I could have written almost the same post about 15 years ago.

One of the guys who worked for me had his van stolen from a B&Q car park where he was working in Birmingham. I told the police where it was due to it having a tracker fitted, a couple of miles away parked up in a communal parking lot in a cul-de-sac. They told me to retrieve it if I could as they couldn't get to it for a while. I had a spare set of keys but was in Chippenham at the time. I still got there before the police did though.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on March 04, 2023, 05:34:09 PM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on March 04, 2023, 08:43:36 AM
think of all the thousands of people with one or two stamps left that they cannot now use, although paid fore, and which are not worth going to the trouble of getting the form and sending them back. nice little earner for RM

But on the flip side there are plenty of people that bought 1st class stamps in bulk at the price at the time but the stamps remained 1st class even when the price of a first class stamp increased year on year. I had a stack that probably covered at least 3 price rises so I can't grumble.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: PaulCheffus on March 04, 2023, 05:48:54 PM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on March 04, 2023, 08:43:36 AM
Quote from: tunneroner61 on March 03, 2023, 11:39:09 PM
My stamps came back in 3 weeks.

Why is barcoding the new stamps a scam?

think of all the thousands of people with one or two stamps left that they cannot now use, although paid fore, and which are not worth going to the trouble of getting the form and sending them back. nice little earner for RM

Hi

Why as the old stamps as are still valid until July.

Cheers

Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on March 04, 2023, 08:13:33 PM
To all my friends in the UK, if you don't know what to do with these soon to be obsolete stamps you can always send me a cheque ?

Has anyone questioned the cost of these new stamps ?

They must cost at least twice as much as the old ones, given that they are are twice as big as the old ones and they include an additional printing process for the bar code ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: OffshoreAlan on March 04, 2023, 08:52:14 PM
And now gone up to £1 for a letter with the new monarch's head.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on March 04, 2023, 09:22:46 PM
I spent yesterday afternoon repairing my Dapol 9F loco, which had hit the deck and needed attention.

I replaced the draw bar and got it running - the only job left was to refit the handrail on one of the smoke deflectors.

I decided to wait until today to do that, and to make sure that I wouldn't lose the handrail I taped it to MY cutting mat on MY desk in my railway room the spare bed room.

I discovered today, after several hours searching on hands and knees, that Mrs Cassidy decided to clean my railway room the spare bed room after  I had gone to bed and in doing so she consigned my precious bit of tape with handrail attached to the dustbin.

Maybe this is the moment for me to splurge on N gauge trains without fear of reproach ?





Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on March 05, 2023, 10:59:25 AM
Quote from: PaulCheffus on March 04, 2023, 05:48:54 PM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on March 04, 2023, 08:43:36 AM
Quote from: tunneroner61 on March 03, 2023, 11:39:09 PM
My stamps came back in 3 weeks.

Why is barcoding the new stamps a scam?

think of all the thousands of people with one or two stamps left that they cannot now use, although paid fore, and which are not worth going to the trouble of getting the form and sending them back. nice little earner for RM

Hi

Why as the old stamps as are still valid until July.

Cheers

Paul

according to RM

Non-barcoded stamps will remain valid to use until February 2023, but anyone who cannot use them by then can swap them for the equivalent value of barcoded stamps.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on March 05, 2023, 11:08:40 AM
Alan, see here (https://www.royalmail.com/sending/barcoded-stamps). No need to panic just yet if you have any stashed away.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on March 05, 2023, 12:02:11 PM
Quote from: joe cassidy on March 04, 2023, 09:22:46 PM
I spent yesterday afternoon repairing my Dapol 9F loco, which had hit the deck and needed attention.

I replaced the draw bar and got it running - the only job left was to refit the handrail on one of the smoke deflectors.

I decided to wait until today to do that, and to make sure that I wouldn't lose the handrail I taped it to MY cutting mat on MY desk in my railway room the spare bed room.

I discovered today, after several hours searching on hands and knees, that Mrs Cassidy decided to clean my railway room the spare bed room after  I had gone to bed and in doing so she consigned my precious bit of tape with handrail attached to the dustbin.

Maybe this is the moment for me to splurge on N gauge trains without fear of reproach ?

Good news !

Mrs C retrieved my piece of tape from the bin this morning  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 05, 2023, 01:07:25 PM
Quote from: joe cassidy on March 05, 2023, 12:02:11 PM
Quote from: joe cassidy on March 04, 2023, 09:22:46 PM
I spent yesterday afternoon repairing my Dapol 9F loco, which had hit the deck and needed attention.

I replaced the draw bar and got it running - the only job left was to refit the handrail on one of the smoke deflectors.

I decided to wait until today to do that, and to make sure that I wouldn't lose the handrail I taped it to MY cutting mat on MY desk in my railway room the spare bed room.

I discovered today, after several hours searching on hands and knees, that Mrs Cassidy decided to clean my railway room the spare bed room after  I had gone to bed and in doing so she consigned my precious bit of tape with handrail attached to the dustbin.

Maybe this is the moment for me to splurge on N gauge trains without fear of reproach ?

Good news !

Mrs C retrieved my piece of tape from the bin this morning  :)

Mrs C obviously didn't fancy the alternative :uneasy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on March 05, 2023, 02:12:07 PM
Quote from: joe cassidy on March 05, 2023, 12:02:11 PM

Mrs C retrieved my piece of tape from the bin this morning  :)

That's a bit of a pity. Saying, "Well if you had not thrown that very important piece in the bin, I would not have needed to replace the whole locomotive", will not work now.  :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jon898 on March 18, 2023, 01:14:33 PM
Well, AT&T did it to me again!

I needed to add money to a pre-paid phone SWMBO uses that is on the AT&T system.  Tried to log in and was met with a "wrong password" notice - no problem, reset the password and did the deed.  I then logged out and closed the browser.  Wait, my email client is now asking for a user name and password for the att.net email (incidentally, no link to the pre-paid phone account).  Entered the required fields - sorry, that combination does not match - huh?  Tried the "forgot password" thinking I'll just reset and continue.  Temporary password is emailed to my recovery email (fortunately not the att.net one), I enter it, same result, sorry, that combination does not match.  Everything now locked solid (email, Fibre Optic subscription, Satellite TV subscription, VOIP phone subscription).

Then I remember, several months ago I had a similar experience and it took 9 hours on the phone and several days to get the email unlocked.  This is apparently a known issue with AT&T and stems from the old Yahoo! system they bought many moons ago.  Reading the AT&T customer forum, it's a known problem and they won't let their own Customer (dis)Service do the resets any more and the only solution now is to wait at least 30 days and try again!

So, to the fiery furnace  >:D with this system, and I have now set up an icloud email that will be used going forward.  Downside of that is I now have to change the email on the 49 websites that have the old email.  Annoying enough, but I'm only half way through and so far at least 3 of them have allowed you to change your email address only after they've sent you an email with a code to the OLD email address - no thought that an old email may no longer be accessible!

I'm now researching how I can get as far as possible from AT&T as I can get.

Jon
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on March 18, 2023, 02:49:13 PM
and computers / online is supposed to make things easier  :hmmm:

:censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on March 20, 2023, 12:32:32 AM
@Jon898 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3998) Just as a matter of interest, I had issues with having to change email addresses when I was using my ISP for them. So I registered a domain name as my full name and my provider diverts any messages to whichever isp account I am currently using. So I don't need to mail round my contacts if I change ISP.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on March 20, 2023, 11:21:23 AM
Quote from: Malc on March 20, 2023, 12:32:32 AM
@Jon898 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3998) Just as a matter of interest, I had issues with having to change email addresses when I was using my ISP for them. So I registered a domain name as my full name and my provider diverts any messages to whichever isp account I am currently using. So I don't need to mail round my contacts if I change ISP.

I did the same, but I have since gone further. I now run my own home server. Our PCs and phones talk to it and it forwards or receives via our domain, so my ISP's servers aren't involved at all. The only changes I need to make on moving ISP are to point the domain at the new IP address and tell the server to also pick up email from the new ISP - which should only ever be email from the ISP about the account.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Jon898 on March 20, 2023, 12:46:22 PM
Quote from: Malc on March 20, 2023, 12:32:32 AM
@Jon898 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3998) Just as a matter of interest, I had issues with having to change email addresses when I was using my ISP for them. So I registered a domain name as my full name and my provider diverts any messages to whichever isp account I am currently using. So I don't need to mail round my contacts if I change ISP.

Thanks, Malc.

If I understand correctly, to do that I'd need to have login access to the ISP.  Unfortunately, that is also locked up.  Stevewalker's solution would also have been better, but not what I'm actually prepared to wrangle.

At this point, I'm kind of stuck with ATT for the fiber optic line (only ISP here other than satellite), so putting everything else into the Apple world is about the simplest solution I have.

Ironically, I got an unsolicited marketing phone call from ATT on Friday and did she get an earful! She did give me one of the "secret" phone numbers for senior tech support, so I may try that sometime.

Jon
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 20, 2023, 01:22:54 PM
Following yesterday's F1 race the FIA really needs to get its act together.
Alonso lined up for the start about 2ft to the left of his box and was penalised 5 seconds for it. I could have understood if he had been 2ft in front of the box but there was no advantage in being to the left, right or rear. It begs the question why drivers have been allowed to line up before pointing the car anywhere but straight :hmmm:
Alonso accepted his punishment and the Aston Martin guys applied the penalty at his first pit stop which was under a Safety Car.  This led Mercedes to query whether the penalty should even have been allowed to have been applied under the Safety Car ruling. No one seemed to know the answer to that one.
However, sadly the rear of the car was touched, not worked upon as per the rules, but touched by the rear jack user.
It took the FIA 35 laps and the podium presentation to then decide to apply a 10 second penalty for the car having been worked on, thus changing the result of 3rd position.
Then at around 10pm GMT, they decided the car had not been worked on and reversed the decision so restoring the original result.
What a farce ::) :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on March 20, 2023, 01:59:30 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on March 20, 2023, 01:22:54 PM

What a farce

I think you are being rather polite there!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on March 20, 2023, 02:07:31 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on March 20, 2023, 01:59:30 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on March 20, 2023, 01:22:54 PM

What a farce

I think you are being rather polite there!

It is in the name, FIA =F**K U* In Action.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on March 20, 2023, 04:06:29 PM
And the same stewards deploying the safety car as their GPS said Stroll's car had stopped on track. All they had to do was look at a TV screen or out of the window to see he'd parked his car off the circuit where the marshals park cars that have dropped out.
As to why it then took them so many laps to call the safety car in as there was zero obstruction only they know.
You could claim the stewards are just trying to liven up yet another boring race  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on March 20, 2023, 07:15:10 PM
I have nothing to back this up as I didn't record the race, just watched it but I am 99.9% sure Aston Martin told Stroll "Stop the car. Stop the car on the track" He couldn't have got the car off the track, anyway, as there was a damned big truck or something parked there.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on March 20, 2023, 07:18:30 PM
He had done a U turn into an exit that was blocked by a truck.

But he was out of the danger line. Another car would have had to smash through a barrier to be able to hit him.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on March 20, 2023, 08:05:48 PM
Stroll did get his car away from the racing line and just about behind the barrier, but one of the Channel 4 commentators did remark that he could go no further because of the truck. As I saw it, there was no real need for a full Safety Car. - a yellow flag for that sector would have sufficed I thought.  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on March 30, 2023, 05:31:47 PM
Of the 5 forums I was using this time last year this is the only one that has not had some upheaval, the photo forum was closed by its owners, the members have started a new one, the music forum changed hosts, the new format was dire, many of us departed, another Railway one has had it's old software finally crumble and has just migrated to a new host and software, may take a bit of getting used to, finally RMweb refuses me access because I use an ad blocker.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on March 30, 2023, 06:42:01 PM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on March 30, 2023, 05:31:47 PM
this is the only one that has not had some upheaval,

Well you've just put the mockers on this forum then! If anything does go wrong in the near future, I think a certain @Tank (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2) might be having words!  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Tank on March 31, 2023, 09:55:34 AM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on March 30, 2023, 05:31:47 PM
Of the 5 forums I was using this time last year this is the only one that has not had some upheaval...

I'm glad to hear that, by default, we're now the favourite!   :D

Hopefully when we upgrade, it won't cause people to leave.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on March 31, 2023, 12:42:09 PM
Quote from: Tank on March 31, 2023, 09:55:34 AM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on March 30, 2023, 05:31:47 PM
Of the 5 forums I was using this time last year this is the only one that has not had some upheaval...

I'm glad to hear that, by default, we're now the favourite!   :D

Hopefully when we upgrade, it won't cause people to leave.

Upgrade, Upgrade?

I've only just fathomed out how this incarnation works!

:*(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on April 02, 2023, 08:48:45 PM
I'll not say too much in case there are some who haven't seen the F1 race from Oz but, and it's only my opinion, the FIA have show once again they are so scared of making the wrong decision they..................................make the wrong decision.
I sometimes wonder about the FIM but the F1 lot really take the biscuit at times ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on April 02, 2023, 09:02:34 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on April 02, 2023, 08:48:45 PM
the FIA have show once again they are so scared of making the wrong decision they..................................make the wrong decision.

And not just the one!  :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on April 02, 2023, 11:22:32 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on April 02, 2023, 08:48:45 PM
I'll not say too much in case there are some who haven't seen the F1 race from Oz but, and it's only my opinion, the FIA have show once again they are so scared of making the wrong decision they..................................make the wrong decision.
I sometimes wonder about the FIM but the F1 lot really take the biscuit at times ::)
I suspect the decisions are made by a committee, hence the indecision.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on April 03, 2023, 09:53:03 AM
Quote from: Malc on April 02, 2023, 11:22:32 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on April 02, 2023, 08:48:45 PM
I'll not say too much in case there are some who haven't seen the F1 race from Oz but, and it's only my opinion, the FIA have show once again they are so scared of making the wrong decision they..................................make the wrong decision.
I sometimes wonder about the FIM but the F1 lot really take the biscuit at times ::)
I suspect the decisions are made by a committee, hence the indecision.
It's also a problem of the rules trying to cover absolutely everything, so the rulebook is stupidly thick, yet doesn't cover the issue that F1 can throw up very unusual scenarios that end up not necessarily being covered.
It's why having a *good* race director is important and why Charlie Whiting is so sorely missed.
That last standing restart was silly. When there's only going to be a 2 lap sprint, the old racing adage of "You can't win a race on the first corner" gets reversed. They had 16 drivers all knowing they could win the race (or at least a lot more points) on the first corner.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on April 03, 2023, 01:39:51 PM
I'm glad I stopped watching F1 when it was just a repeat of the previous procession around the track.

by the sound of the comments on here, I'd be on a diet of Latte pods and Jaffa cakes by now if I hadn't. :-[

still think they should start with the cars on one side of the track, and the drivers on the other, at least they would get some exercise running to their cars  :-\
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on May 09, 2023, 12:29:00 PM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on March 05, 2023, 10:59:25 AM
Quote from: PaulCheffus on March 04, 2023, 05:48:54 PM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on March 04, 2023, 08:43:36 AM
Quote from: tunneroner61 on March 03, 2023, 11:39:09 PM
My stamps came back in 3 weeks.

Why is barcoding the new stamps a scam?

think of all the thousands of people with one or two stamps left that they cannot now use, although paid fore, and which are not worth going to the trouble of getting the form and sending them back. nice little earner for RM

Hi

Why as the old stamps as are still valid until July.

Cheers

Paul

according to RM

Non-barcoded stamps will remain valid to use until February 2023, but anyone who cannot use them by then can swap them for the equivalent value of barcoded stamps.

the saga continues  :veryangry:

I have been told four times by RM so colled customer services that they are dealing with this, and I will receive my stamps shortly.
ha  :censored: ha

then today, the ultimate insult.
included in my post, a leaflet from RM advising I need to send back or use any non-barcoded stamps  :headbutt: :headbutt:

ok, I'm supposed to restrain my inner self and be calm, but no chance.

call number 5 to RM, and the usual 30 mins of  :poop: music and messages about how I can cancel my complaint before their investigation is complete if it is resolved.

resolved ?   :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

any way. tongue bitten, it's not the poor advisers problem I've been being sodded about by RM for 9 months.....

helpful guy says i'm not the first he's had with this problem, checked my previous history of calls, and says he will speak to the exchange dept and I will receive a call within the next 24 hours to resolve this.

breath not holding will I be  :*(

I had asked to speak to a customer service manager, but apparently RM Customer service managers do not speak to customers  :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

wonder what they spend their over paid working life doing.
glass x 1  bottle of scottish finest water x 1 calming down hopefully.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 10, 2023, 11:20:04 AM
Trying to contact Chorley Council is like trying to knit fog.
3 times I've tried, each lasting over 10 minutes while I have to listen to a strangulated person twanging away on their geetar with appalling sound quality. Dare not mute it in case, Heaven forbid, someone decides to pick the  :censored: phone up.
Grrrrr :veryangry2: :veryangry2: :veryangry2: :veryangry2: :veryangry2:

Edit:- 5th time lucky and spoke to someone as we have a 'large waste collection' booked for Monday at a cost of £90 for 4 armchairs and 3 kitchen appliances which have to be on the drive for 7am. However, the forecast for Sunday is rain so I wanted to query if they still collected wet items. Bloke says if the armchairs are soggy and too heavy they may not collect them. I asked if a soggy armchair is heavier then a fridge/freezer they are OK with even if wet. He said can we cover the armchairs up. I replied we don't have a tarpaulin and that, even if we had, someone would nick the tarpaulin anyway. He said we could cancel the collection but there would be a £5 charge, to which I replied we're not paying them £5 for nothing so left the booking as is. I really don't care if they collect them or not as the address is not my address. Even more  :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on May 10, 2023, 03:30:03 PM
and we pay their wages through our council tax.

it would not be so bad if all councils worked the same.
some recycle this, others don't.
some charge for a green bin, some don't.
I was told I could not put potato peelings in my green bin, but it was ok if I dug up my potato patch and put them in the bin.

lunatic / asylum / etc springs to mind.

Mick,
leave them out, and if they don't take them you'll probably be charged with fly tipping !

welcom to the world of UK councils 2023. :*(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on May 10, 2023, 03:52:36 PM
Local Counsellors are either aspiring Westminster politicians or tin pot dictators, usually both.  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on May 10, 2023, 03:54:33 PM
guess what, now over 24 hours since my call to RM, and still nothing from them.
perhaps they mean 24 working hrs ?

my bank quotes 'working days' but they are happy to take my money any day, but can only give me money on mon-fri,
double standards  :hmmm:
with most people these days working 24/7 /52, how can firms claim to not deal with you any day, of course if they wait a couple of days, with YOUR cash, they get the interest.

I remember, years ago, when I was a relay driver on the AA, picking up a guy on a sunday to recover him and his car home.

as we went past a retail park he went off on one, moaning about how people should not work on sundays etc......
it totally brassed me off, as I was looking at about a 5 hour run to drop him off, then another 5 hours to get back to base....

ok you know me  :P

I pulled in to the next layby.

" you are so right, I agree entirely"

"what are you doing ?"

"I'm unloading your car, here, and heading back to base, then going home to my family. you are right, I should not be working on a sunday."

"what am I supposed to do ?"

"one of my colleagues will be back monday to pick you up and take you home"

splutter, splutter, splutter

"so, it's ok for me to work sundays, my collegue who came out to you before to work sundays, when you get home you expect to be able to turn on the lights powered by systems worked by people working sundays, and no doubt you will watch tv provided by people working sundays, so you are a bit  :censored: selective are'nt you"

silence from the back of the cab.

not sure why, but when I dropped him off, I didn't get a tip.....
but I never had a complaint so perhaps I was right ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on May 10, 2023, 06:18:25 PM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on May 10, 2023, 03:30:03 PM
and we pay their wages through our council tax.

it would not be so bad if all councils worked the same.
some recycle this, others don't.
some charge for a green bin, some don't.
I was told I could not put potato peelings in my green bin, but it was ok if I dug up my potato patch and put them in the bin.

lunatic / asylum / etc springs to mind.

Mick,
leave them out, and if they don't take them you'll probably be charged with fly tipping !

welcom to the world of UK councils 2023. :*(
They'd be pretty upset if you put potato peelings or spuds in green bins here...
Green .. recycling,
Black / grey rubbish,
Brown garden waste.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on May 10, 2023, 06:43:13 PM
can't even use the same colours...

I rest my case.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: emjaybee on May 10, 2023, 07:05:26 PM
We have:

Green - General waste
Blue - card and tin recycling
Brown - garden waste (£)
Small grey - food waste
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bazza on May 10, 2023, 07:45:05 PM
We have;

Black for landfill/general waste
Blue for recycling waste
Green for food waste (although the indoor food waste caddy is grey)



Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 10, 2023, 09:09:21 PM
We have South Ribble council for:-

Grey bin - general daily rubbish (must be bagged)
Blue bin - metal and plastics
Brown bin - garden waste (if you pay £30 annual fee)
Green box with yellow lid - paper and cardboard

Any wheelie bin with the lid even slightly raised is not emptied

5 miles down the road it's Chorley Council and completely different.

When I lived in Telford some folks put dead people in the wrong bins ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on May 10, 2023, 09:24:54 PM
Fortunately Birmingham Council have a mobile unit. Two vans, one taking anything recyclable but not double glazed units. The other takes anything else. So we got shot of a window we had replaced, a load of used compost and some topsoil in one fell swoop.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 10, 2023, 09:28:45 PM
Quote from: Malc on May 10, 2023, 09:24:54 PM
Two vans, one taking anything recyclable but not double glazed units. The other takes anything else. So we got shot of a window we had replaced, a load of used compost and some topsoil in one fell swoop.

Seems someone spotted a window of opportunity
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on May 10, 2023, 10:46:16 PM
we have
black bin for land fill
blue lidded bin for recycling [at least some things, though some marked as recyclable are not accepted]
green bin for garden waste, at £77 per year

oh and if you want to get rid of shredded paper, it can't be recycled in the blue bin, but has to be taken to the local civic amenity site run by WSCC.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on May 10, 2023, 10:53:28 PM
When I lived in central London they used to charge for business waster even from private houses.  They even had inspectors who would check you bins.

On night I had a knock at my door and there was this officious guy telling me I was going to be fined for putting shredded business documents in the domestic waste.

I asked him if he had smelt his hands, and he looked puzzled, well I said, I use it as cat litter and you are holding what the cat produced yesterday.

I never heard from him again and they stopped checking our bins.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on May 10, 2023, 11:18:05 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on May 10, 2023, 11:20:04 AM
I really don't care if they collect them or not as the address is not my address.

That was my first thought, put them outside someone else's house  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 11, 2023, 08:43:12 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on May 10, 2023, 11:18:05 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on May 10, 2023, 11:20:04 AM
I really don't care if they collect them or not as the address is not my address.

That was my first thought, put them outside someone else's house  :thumbsup:

Then they definitely wouldn't collect them as it wouldn't be the address on their paperwork.
Jeez - I'm starting to think like them! :worried:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on May 11, 2023, 11:07:17 AM
Over here, certainly where I am, waste collection is privatised.  Black wheelie bin for, (bagged), general waste, blue bin for recycling and small brown bin for food waste/compost, all collected fortnightly. I pay a standing charge of just over €17 per month, plus pay by weight for the black bin, which is in the region of €7 per empty. The blue and brown bins are free. I don't use the brown bin and the blue bin is filled for every collection, (mainly with squashed cat food tins!),whilst I can normally last a month before the black bin needs emptying. The one problem is that the collection point is just over half a mile away which is not too bad in the summer, but a  :censored: in winter, so last year, I bought myself a second hand trailer - makes the job a lot easier and saves Louisa us pulling the bins up and down our hill.  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on May 11, 2023, 11:42:12 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on May 10, 2023, 11:20:04 AM
Trying to contact Chorley Council is like trying to knit fog.
3 times I've tried, each lasting over 10 minutes while I have to listen to a strangulated person twanging away on their geetar with appalling sound quality. Dare not mute it in case, Heaven forbid, someone decides to pick the  :censored: phone up.
Grrrrr :veryangry2: :veryangry2: :veryangry2: :veryangry2: :veryangry2:

Edit:- 5th time lucky and spoke to someone as we have a 'large waste collection' booked for Monday at a cost of £90 for 4 armchairs and 3 kitchen appliances which have to be on the drive for 7am. However, the forecast for Sunday is rain so I wanted to query if they still collected wet items. Bloke says if the armchairs are soggy and too heavy they may not collect them. I asked if a soggy armchair is heavier then a fridge/freezer they are OK with even if wet. He said can we cover the armchairs up. I replied we don't have a tarpaulin and that, even if we had, someone would nick the tarpaulin anyway. He said we could cancel the collection but there would be a £5 charge, to which I replied we're not paying them £5 for nothing so left the booking as is. I really don't care if they collect them or not as the address is not my address. Even more  :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored:

careful Mick, carry on like that and you'll be on a diet of jaffa cakes and latte pods  ;D

perhaps you should mention your health issues, and point out that stress exacerbates them, and if that led to your demise your estate would sue them for culpable manslaughter  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on May 12, 2023, 06:37:52 PM
further to reply 8252

"breath not holding will I be  :*( "

still waiting for the call within 24hrs, just wonder which 24hr period they mean :hmmm: :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 22, 2023, 07:43:08 PM
So called 'professional' legal people..............
Owing to a change in family circumstances I am in the process of altering my will. Despite me giving my solicitor a typed sheet with all names and addresses, they still managed to send me a draft will with incorrect spelling of names. Why do they assume how to spell names instead of checking? What makes them think they know best?
God only knows they charge enough to act like cretins :veryangry: :veryangry2: :headbutt:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Snowwolflair on May 22, 2023, 07:47:38 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on May 22, 2023, 07:43:08 PM
So called 'professional' legal people..............
Owing to a change in family circumstances I am in the process of altering my will. Despite me giving my solicitor a typed sheet with all names and addresses, they still managed to send me a draft will with incorrect spelling of names. Why do they assume how to spell names instead of checking? What makes them think they know best?
God only knows they charge enough to act like cretins :veryangry: :veryangry2: :headbutt:

Ah....  for the cretin service you must have paid extra.  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on May 22, 2023, 07:48:07 PM
These days, somebody probably just spoke in to a machine Mick and let Artificial 'Intelligence' deal with it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on May 22, 2023, 07:57:45 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on May 22, 2023, 07:48:07 PM
These days, somebody probably just spoke in to a machine Mick and let Artificial 'Intelligence' deal with it.
Nah, this one will have required real stupidity. More than likely to feel important the solicitor has to dictate the form to his secretary, which means carefully spelled names will be translated to whatever the secretary thinks they sound like.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 22, 2023, 10:42:26 PM
Quote from: zwilnik on May 22, 2023, 07:57:45 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on May 22, 2023, 07:48:07 PM
These days, somebody probably just spoke in to a machine Mick and let Artificial 'Intelligence' deal with it.
Nah, this one will have required real stupidity. More than likely to feel important the solicitor has to dictate the form to his secretary, which means carefully spelled names will be translated to whatever the secretary thinks they sound like.

That's probably nailed it :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on May 23, 2023, 12:32:13 AM
What did they get wrong KnewportKnobby?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 26, 2023, 08:47:48 PM
Three power cuts so far in three days. For the second and third an automatic e mail is received stating they've cut off electricity while they carry out safety repairs.
Not that I can read those mails 'cos the router goes down when the power does ::)
In fact, all you can hope is there is enough light to read by
Luckily the cut lasts only about ½ an hour so more annoying than causing anger, but I have to reset certain appliances
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on May 26, 2023, 09:13:45 PM
Do you not get the e-mails on your mobile telephone  ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on May 26, 2023, 11:10:14 PM
Have you tried setting up emails on a Nobby 3310?

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Yc4AAOSwx9ZawmaT/s-l1600.jpg)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on May 27, 2023, 07:25:47 AM
nothing wrong with one of them.
when someone calls you it goes brrr brr brr

when you call someone it goes brr brr brr

what more do you need. ?
turn off voicemail, if it is important they will phone again

mind you, when the adverts started for the new phones that 'flip' I was so impressed I got one


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/132/10229-270523072400.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=132647)

for some reason the daughters were not impressed with the latest tek technology thingy  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on May 27, 2023, 01:12:07 PM
Being a devout confirmed Luddite I do not have, nor do I want, a mobile phone; no TV either and the only radio is in the bedroom for a bit of Classic FM before lights out, I manage perfectly well with two Windows 7 PCs, one provides music from about 70 x 3 hour playlists, the other is for forums, emails,  jig saw puzzles, online shopping and tasks associated with N gauge modelling like printing backscenes, dowmloading from sites like Scalescenes, driving a plotter cutter to produce building "kits" etc.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on May 27, 2023, 09:05:11 PM
Mike, you forget to mention your 1970s vintage hi-fi set up  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on May 27, 2023, 09:22:37 PM
Quote from: joe cassidy on May 27, 2023, 09:05:11 PM
Mike, you forget to mention your 1970s vintage hi-fi set up  :)

I don't believe he has got one that modern.  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on May 27, 2023, 09:58:58 PM
Quote from: joe cassidy on May 27, 2023, 09:05:11 PM
Mike, you forget to mention your 1970s vintage hi-fi set up  :)
It's a bit newer than that, late 90's, it has VCR, tape, phono and CD inputs, - Technics SA-EX700 driving Technics speakers.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on May 28, 2023, 12:36:07 AM
So you've binned the old 8 track player then, Mike?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on May 28, 2023, 09:48:44 AM
Quote from: Malc on May 28, 2023, 12:36:07 AM
So you've binned the old 8 track player then, Mike?

Nah - the bloke with the red flag who used to walk in front of Mike's car nicked that
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on June 01, 2023, 02:24:07 PM
A mere 12 months ago our binmen went on strike for over a month until they got their 20% pay rise but it seems they are upset again, this time over the workplace and management (vague but all that they've offered) so have walked out again to day until the 25th June. Deep joy.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on June 02, 2023, 07:37:05 AM
like most of us, I wish my pension would go up by 20%

but of course, if we went on strike who would notice, apart from the lack of groaners from @dannyboy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4209)  :hmmm: :-[
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on June 02, 2023, 01:20:38 PM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on June 02, 2023, 07:37:05 AM
like most of us, I wish my pension would go up by 20%

but of course, if we went on strike who would notice, apart from the lack of groaners from @dannyboy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4209)  :hmmm: :-[

You could organise and un-strike - increasing levels of activism, complaint and general nuisance making - although that would presumably mean extra groaners  :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on June 02, 2023, 06:04:30 PM
as if one a day was not enough  :*(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on June 02, 2023, 06:08:53 PM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on June 02, 2023, 06:04:30 PM
as if one a day was not enough  :*(

I am not sure I understand this post - are you saying that one groaner a day is not enough?  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on June 02, 2023, 07:17:28 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on June 02, 2023, 06:08:53 PM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on June 02, 2023, 06:04:30 PM
as if one a day was not enough  :*(

I am not sure I understand this post - are you saying that one groaner a day is not enough?  :)

:stop: :telloff:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on July 01, 2023, 03:23:14 PM
Early start this morning to go to RailEx in Buxton so I set the controls for the heart of the sun satnav for the large car park next to the venue and off I jolly well went. I got a little uneasy as I was taken round by Manchester airport then off the M60 at Cheadle and up into the Peak District National Park. This meant narrow winding roads through small villages with BIG properties and I fetched up in Buxton but at a completely different car park where the stay was limited to 4 hours rather than the 10 I could have paid for at the optimal one.
Got back in the car after the show and, damn me, it brought me back the same way but by this time all the cyclists had come out to play (maybe the Tour de France starting today had summat to do with it) and, of course, they weren't going to go single file for anyone so tailbacks on those narrow winding roads were awful. Then, for some reason, the satnag had a hissy fit and sent me down a very long road with traffic calming (gert lumps in the road) in a residential area of Cheadle before I got on the M60 where I discovered idiots pootling along in the middle lane at about 50mph with other folks passing both sides of them and gesticulating madly at the pratts.
Boy, was I glad to get home and I won't be going back to Buxton in a hurry :no:
Even at the risk of several extra miles there must be an easier way to get there without causing havoc in the National Park.
Maybe I'll have a look when my blood pressure has gone down some
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on July 01, 2023, 05:59:08 PM
there are only two good things to come out of Buxton......

Buxton water

and the main road.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on July 02, 2023, 12:44:21 AM
Sounds a lot like my recent road misadventures over there, Mick!

Anne says made her feel right at home  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on July 03, 2023, 01:17:07 AM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on July 01, 2023, 05:59:08 PM
there are only two good things to come out of Buxton......

Buxton water

and the main road.

I agree, the water in Buxton is great. This is my current favourite which is 92% Buxton water

(https://www.purvisbeer.com.au/cdn/shop/products/image_67db8084-4a13-4d84-8556-c89aeec3075d_355x473.jpg?v=1576716652)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 03, 2023, 08:50:43 AM
Sadly I'm having dealings with Co-op Legal Services again (had very good dealings with them last year). Our 'Case Manager' always appeared to be a bit of a clod but recently he dropped off the planet. Mails went unanswered, calls always went to voice mail etc. Finally we were informed we'd been allocated a new 'Case Manager' but lost 10 days or so while he brought himself up to date. It transpires the original bloke had not done what he said he'd done and that, patently, he'd lied to us about things, in particular one search that takes up to 20 working days which he hadn't actually set in motion so now we have to wait another 20 working days. Paperwork he'd sent to us was incorrect so now we have to get a new set, along with certificates he'd never asked for in the first place.
The new guy seems to be on the ball although he's on holiday for 2 weeks now, and hopefully his predecessor has been given the boot.
I hope they reflect this when they present their account for payment or they may find delays >:D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on August 03, 2023, 09:20:15 AM
I'm sure a man of your calibre will be able to play them at their own game...

need 10 days to get myself updated on your recent account

the person who was dealing with this is no longer with us, so we will need 20 days to review all paperwork

sorry this department is only open two days a week

etc.

some years ago I had dealings with a firm that was always slow to do anything, if you had a meeting it always started late.

so one day I arrived for a meeting, sat down in reception, got out my thermos and sarnies.

not long before another customer asked 'why did you bring them ?'

obvious response

'they are always so late starting meetings, I thought I'd bring a picnic to pass the time.'

receptionist on phone, 15 seconds later I was called for my meeting, 10 minutes early.

wonder why. :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 03, 2023, 10:12:45 AM
In my career as a Sales Manager (all mouth and motorway) I had an appointment at Cadbury Bournville with a bloke who loved to keep people waiting. After ½ an hour beyond the arranged time I went to the receptionist and said "Could you contact Mr. Smith* and let him know I have another call to make so if I can't see him in 5 minutes time I'll be forced to leave"
Oddly he appeared straight away.

* Name changed to protect the guilty party
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 03, 2023, 10:22:41 AM
When we moved in, Severn Trent kept sending water bills addressed to the previous occupant, despite repeatedly telling them I was the occupier . This was in the days of cheques, so I sent them a cheque payable to Thames Water. I got a rapid reply telling me I had addressed the cheque incorrectly. I replied, "you get my name right, I'll get yours right". Problem solved.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on August 06, 2023, 11:08:29 AM
Walked to car this morning, thought what is going on here?

Front bumper severely damaged.

Hit in car park, I guess.  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on August 06, 2023, 11:10:19 AM
and let me guess, no note from whoever did it with their details. :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on August 06, 2023, 11:12:38 AM
Of course.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Papyrus on August 06, 2023, 11:21:34 AM
Years ago, I came back to my car in the square of the village where we lived at the time to find one of the front wings damaged. The was a note on the windscreen to the effect of "If you want details of who damaged your car, call at the shop." Turns out the shop owner had heard the crunch, saw the driver get out and look at the damage, then get back in and drive away. The shop owner took note of the number plate so I contacted the police who tracked it down to someone in the next village, who at least had the grace to admit it when plod knocked at his door. The interesting thing was that he was a pillar of the local community and showed up at church every Sunday. Funny old world...

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on August 06, 2023, 12:35:46 PM
in my day, that would have been either

hit and run

or

leaving the scene of an accident without exchanging details as required by law.

pillar of the church or not, offences.

nowadays of course not worth any action by plod other than a call handler giving a number for the insurance.

what ever happened to the police being charged with the prevention and detection of crime.

prevention means active patrolling - yeah right
detection means actually investigating offences, again yeah right.

too few plods
too many forms
too few results

what a laugh.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on August 08, 2023, 12:10:40 PM
I had ongoing problems, over a long period, with my energy provider (Eon Next) which had separate gas and electric accounts, with "no way" to merge them and no possibility of Smart meters without that merge. Eventually I had to get Ofgem involved and, magically, there was a way to merge them.

Last November the accounts were merged and the meters installed. They then sent me a final bill from the old meters and left over £3K in the account! It turned out that they'd had to roll back the old bills and payments and then roll them forward on the new account, but had failed to roll the electricity usage forward, while doing so for the payments made.

After they'd put that right, they failed to bill me for electricity I was using, but I was still paying, so credit built up. I told them twice and got nowhere. I finally moved to another supplier in March and Eon Next brought the account up to date, including billing the used electric, issued a final bill and returned the remaining credit.

Today I have received a bill for £150 - it turns out that in November they missed one payment when rolling forward. It is not a big sum for me, but it really annoys me that after all the hassles I went through with them (many cancelled appointments for installation and much time spent dealing with them on the phone), they now send me a bill that should already have been dealt with long ago. I feel like sending them an invoice for all of my wasted time with them - which at my charge rates would be hugely more than £150!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on August 08, 2023, 02:34:09 PM
go for it
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on August 12, 2023, 02:51:35 PM
Quote from: stevewalker on August 08, 2023, 12:10:40 PMI feel like sending them an invoice for all of my wasted time with them - which at my charge rates would be hugely more than £150!

I have done similar with a couple of companies over the years and found that if you dig your heels in, threaten them with an ombudsman etc they will buckle. They usually end up sending an apology and offering as a "gesture of goodwill" the outstanding payment credited to your account as a minimum. Sometimes they will add compensation too but the main thing I have found is that it's best to send them a figure of what you expect to receive. If you're not greedy and as I say dig your heels in you will be successful.
Good luck with it fella.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on August 14, 2023, 08:02:32 PM
Louisa went off on the coach this morning to start her holiday. Because of the timings, she had to hang about Dublin airport for about 5 hours. The flight was due to leave at 1850. Five minutes before, she and the other 70+ passengers were told that the flight was cancelled, but they would be put up in a hotel and rebooked on the 0650 flight tomorrow. Louisa got chatting to another lady who rang the hotel - "No, we are fully booked so no room"! They go back to the desk and were told that they could not get a flight until Wednesday!! Then she was told it might be Thursday!!! Louisa rang me again, for about the tenth time, (in tears this time), and I told her to get the coach at 2020 and I would pick her up in Carrick. It is not only Louisas holiday that is spoilt, my sister had arranged a couple of trips for Louisa, so they are now up the swanee!!!! Guess who will be putting in some hours tomorrow getting some compensation sorted, (already started looking  ;) ). And on top of all that, I do not get a few days to myself.  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on August 15, 2023, 08:16:06 AM
probably not a good idea for me to offer to draft you a couple of emails  :hmmm:

surely, if the airline cannot provide the flight, are they not able to transfer her to another airline at their expense ?

hope you get things sorted, but do push on how their actions have impacted other people, and resultant expenses incurred, distress etc.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on August 15, 2023, 08:48:19 AM
Yes, that is definitely a horror story.

Good luck with getting it fixed!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on August 15, 2023, 10:19:00 AM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on August 15, 2023, 08:16:06 AMprobably not a good idea for me to offer to draft you a couple of emails  :hmmm:


Don't worry Alan, I know exactly what I am going to say. However, I will start off nice and polite, requesting refunds of flights etc AND statutory compensation as laid down in EU regulations. If that don't work, the big guns are coming out. (Might need to borrow one of yours!  :) )
(I have to go out now so Louisa can spend some of her holiday money  :worried: ).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on August 16, 2023, 12:28:40 PM
Back where I belong again  >:(

did a shop at the local Tesco superstore today, you can hardly get down the aisles for signs saying how they are reducing prices, got to my favourite aisle
wines and spirits,
got a bottle of scottish water,
got a bottle of tesco's cream sherry  :hmmm:

got home and check my last couple of receipts

8th august - price was £8
12th august - price was £9
16th august - ie today - the price is £9.25  :veryangry:

you know me so well, on the phone to customer services........

outcome

correct price is £9.25
if you are unhappy with that price you can return the item for a refund  :censored:

the lesson from this seems to be

shop at Lidls
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Papyrus on August 16, 2023, 12:45:47 PM
Got my car insurance renewal today.....

It's gone up 63%!

Why?? The only thing that has changed since last year is that Mrs P and I are a year older.

I looked on a comparison site and I can get it £100 cheaper... from the same company. Grrr.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on August 16, 2023, 01:41:49 PM
Quote from: Papyrus on August 16, 2023, 12:45:47 PMGot my car insurance renewal today.....

It's gone up 63%!

Why?? The only thing that has changed since last year is that Mrs P and I are a year older.

I looked on a comparison site and I can get it £100 cheaper... from the same company. Grrr.

Cheers,

Chris

 ???  :confused1:
I saw the other day motor insurance has risen by between 40 and 70%. Their excuse is cars cost more to be repaired at present. I'm dreading my car insurance renewal in December but my motorbike insurance was slightly cheaper in June. Welcome to 'Rip Off Britain'. I tried to contact Angela Rippon but she's training for some dancing thingy :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on August 16, 2023, 01:44:20 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on August 16, 2023, 01:41:49 PMI tried to contact Angela Rippon but she's training for some dancing thingy :)

Please be patient with her, she's training with me  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: PaulCheffus on August 16, 2023, 02:39:02 PM
Quote from: Papyrus on August 16, 2023, 12:45:47 PMGot my car insurance renewal today.....

It's gone up 63%!

Why?? The only thing that has changed since last year is that Mrs P and I are a year older.

I looked on a comparison site and I can get it £100 cheaper... from the same company. Grrr.

Cheers,

Chris

Hi

I must be lucky then as mine went up by £5 for the year until I bought a new car then it was £100 extra for the year but that was only to be expected as the new car is worth more than the old one was.

Cheers

Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on August 16, 2023, 02:52:17 PM
amazing though how no claims bonus doesn't increase in the same was.
hit the max and you are at the same 20 years later
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on August 16, 2023, 04:22:06 PM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on August 16, 2023, 12:28:40 PMthe lesson from this seems to be

shop at Lidls


I have to admit that, up to the begining of this year, 90% of my shopping was done in Tesco. I then discovered that the cat food at Aldi was in the region of 20% cheaper than Tescos own label. I have tried various other items at Aldi and found them to be near enough to the well know brands to make them worthwhile buying - things like soup/beans/yoghurt and cleaning stuff. When I do my shopping on a Friday, I quite often spend as much, if not more, at Aldi than I do at Tesco. So the only loyalty I have these days is to my pocket!  :)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on August 16, 2023, 04:27:36 PM
*/?>.:'# DPD - again. I received an email this morning stating that 'Sam' would deliver a parcel at lunchtime. As I said to Louisa, "Oh dear, it's not Jason, so it will not arrive today". I have just checked the DPD tracking site and, sure enough; it states that they could not locate my premises. For  :censored: sake, every individual address in Ireland has a unique 'Eircode', so there can be no excuse. Just sent an email to the DPD Customer Relations people and asked for a reply - if they can find my email address to reply to!  :veryangry:  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on August 16, 2023, 05:21:19 PM
I had a delivery by parcel post scheduled for a morning delivery. I left for work at 2pm and hadn't had the delivery. I found a "sorry we missed you" card when I got home. I phoned the number on the card and rescheduled for the next morning. 2pm comes and goes but no delivery. Next morning at the depot, I tried to collect the parcel and the customer service guy said,"I'm not sure I can find it". I told him he had 5 minutes to locate it then I was off and they could keep it for the statutory 6 months. He asked me what was in it, I told him it was fresh kippers and in 6 months, he'd know exactly where it was. He found it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: AndrewPH on August 20, 2023, 07:48:00 AM
Here's something perfect for this thread...

We recently moved house, and needed to make some kind of car port to keep the car out of the sun. Wife's cousin said he could do it low cost, and I said yes because it's a rental house, and we only plan to be here 1 year while we build a house to our design. 3 days later we had a smart shelter with a galvanised iron pole frame, welded to the driveway side wall/fence, and a custom heavyweight tarp stretched and anchored across it.

Last night: first big rain storm since moving (heavy rain but not out of the ordinary for here).

This morning: tarp is full of water despite the top frame being sloped, one pole is severely bent under the weight, and because the effing genius had (unknown to me) used TWO short poles welded together half way along the frame top, the weld failed and my beloved SUV now has a 2cm deep dent in the roof, with a 10cm scratch going right down through the paint and primer to bare metal.

Not insured because it happened on my private property, and will likely cost upwards of $5000 to repair.

Wife had to forcibly restrain me from driving round to his house with a baseball bat.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on August 20, 2023, 08:00:14 AM
Gawd! You have a nice cousin-in-law, or whatever they're called.

Any hope of financial aid from anywhere?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: AndrewPH on August 20, 2023, 10:49:58 AM
Unlikely. He's unemployed and broke. We were (laughs in a slightly hysterical manner) doing him a favour.

We'll survive, however buying the wife a new car, which was planned for next month, will now be mid-2024 at the earliest.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on September 04, 2023, 11:13:21 AM
the day / week started so well, good weather to get on with the driveway, and feeling fit and ready to start once HB had been walked.

then it started  ::)

email to say my delivery of bulk bags of top soil, compost and soil enricher would be on 08/09/23
so what is the problem ?

if you have any concerns regarding this method of delivery, that you contact us, quoting your delivery postcode, no later than 5 working days prior to your delivery date
and today is the 4th, now where did I leave my time machine ?

Pallets are off-loaded kerbside using a tail lift and positioned using a manual pallet truck. Manual pallet trucks can only operate on a flat, level, concreted, or similar firm surface. They cannot operate on slopes, gravel, earth, grass or any other type of non-solid surface. Please ensure a flat and hard standing area, such as concrete, tarmac, or block paving, is available for unloading.
my front parking area is plastic gridwork with pea beach infill.

so I phone them, and wait, and wait and wait...
at last a person, "no we can't unload on that, the bags are loaded on the pallets two high, and the pallet truck won't work on that surface. the driver can look at it if you want"

If we attempt delivery but are unable to access your property, failed delivery charges may be incurred.

don't bother, please cancel the order and refund.
"you'll need to speak to Wickes about that"

brrrrr

another call, this time to Wickes, 'large volume of calls' etc finally get a human.
order cancelled and refund requested.
also cancelled the rest of the order which they were going to deliver thursday, without the soil etc, no point in having the bricks to build the new raised beds  >:(

now I need to find another source of top soil / etc who can deliver bulk bags with a truck with a crane, not a pallet truck.

ahh well, at least thursday and friday are now free.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on September 05, 2023, 12:36:44 AM
Do you have Sydenhams down your way? I always find them good and they always have a HIAB (other cranes are available) on board.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on September 05, 2023, 08:26:54 AM
just checked, and none near here.
also their top soil was from Rolawn, so may be delivered 'straight from the supplier' as with Wickes, so back to the tail lift and pallet truck.

the search will continue, but thanks for the suggestion.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on September 06, 2023, 04:37:04 PM
Trying to sell a Unimat 3 lathe with milling attachment, it's mounted in an od sewing machine cabinet, folds away when not in use; tried all the local second hand tool dealers, they don't wanna know. I don't do farcebook, no longer have an Ebay account - even if I had it would need to be "Buyer collect".
Same thing with a KNK Zing plotter cutter.
I've also emailed the local Area group - no response!
Part of the old age creeping on syndrome, I've not left this building since March, just waiting on moving to sheltered accomodation which means a considerable downsizing operation.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on September 07, 2023, 12:22:55 PM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on September 06, 2023, 04:37:04 PMTrying to sell a Unimat 3 lathe with milling attachment, it's mounted in an od sewing machine cabinet, folds away when not in use; tried all the local second hand tool dealers, they don't wanna know. I don't do farcebook, no longer have an Ebay account - even if I had it would need to be "Buyer collect".
Same thing with a KNK Zing plotter cutter.
I've also emailed the local Area group - no response!
Part of the old age creeping on syndrome, I've not left this building since March, just waiting on moving to sheltered accomodation which means a considerable downsizing operation.
Is the a "Men in sheds" near you? They might make use of it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on September 08, 2023, 09:52:44 AM
We've just suffered from the jobsworth bin men this morning (possibly because they were in a bad mood due to two badly parked cars making access very difficult).

Since Covid, the blue (paper and card) bin  has not been allowed to be used for tissues, due to infection risk. I've gone out to bring our bin in and found it still full, with a tag on - "rejected due to tissues" ... they are very clearly not loose tissues, but the cardboard toilet roll tubes, where the end sheets are glued to them and of no infection risk at all.

A call to the council and they agreed that it should not have been rejected, but they can't override the contracted collection company. There are no phone numbers for the company, just a web complaint form, whose options do not allow you to contest a wrongly applied tag.

I've done the best I can with it, but now have to wait to hear back from them. Meanwhile the bin is full, there are five of us and the next collection is not for four weeks.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 08, 2023, 10:00:24 AM
That's not clever. As you say, perhaps they were in a bad mood.
We get our bins emptied every two weeks with them alternating between general waste and recycling waste each Tuesday
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on September 08, 2023, 10:05:44 AM
Same happens here, sort of. General waste weekly. green waste weekly, recycling stuff fortnightly.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on September 08, 2023, 10:08:02 AM
Where exactly are your tips in England?

Just curious
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on September 08, 2023, 10:17:09 AM
all over the place, many shops sell PG  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on September 08, 2023, 10:56:50 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on September 08, 2023, 10:00:24 AMThat's not clever. As you say, perhaps they were in a bad mood.
We get our bins emptied every two weeks with them alternating between general waste and recycling waste each Tuesday

We used to have a single, black, 240l bin, collected weekly. They changed to a grey, non-recyclables, 140l bin (we still have 240l as there are five of us) collected fortnightly, a green, garden and food waste bin, collected weekly, a blue, paper and card, bin collected monthly and repurposed the black bins for plastics and glass, collected monthly. So we go Grey/Green, Blue/Green, Grey/Green, Black/Green over 4 weeks.

The last month covered both our eldest son's birthday and our wedding anniversary, plus we bought a number of items, so the bin is very full now. The coming month sees my birthday and our middle son's birthday.

If the council don't send out a special collection, I am going to have to have a big bonfire!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on September 08, 2023, 11:06:26 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on September 08, 2023, 10:00:24 AMThat's not clever. As you say, perhaps they were in a bad mood.
We get our bins emptied every two weeks with them alternating between general waste and recycling waste each Tuesday

You must have the same binmen as us. General & recycling on a Tuesday, green waste the following Tuesday and so on. Green waste is this Tuesday coming.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on September 08, 2023, 11:08:04 AM
Quote from: stevewalker on September 08, 2023, 10:56:50 AMIf the council don't send out a special collection, I am going to have to have a big bonfire!

Can't you just put it in others' bins when they're not looking?  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: elmo on September 08, 2023, 06:52:07 PM
Quote from: stevewalker on September 08, 2023, 09:52:44 AMWe've just suffered from the jobsworth bin men this morning (possibly because they were in a bad mood due to two badly parked cars making access very difficult).



A call to the council and they agreed that it should not have been rejected, but they can't override the contracted collection company. There are no phone numbers for the company, just a web complaint form, whose options do not allow you to contest a wrongly applied tag.


Personally I would be :censored: (changed by forum)-o-grams to local MP, local council leader and the ,local press. I have found that this creates a quick response!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on September 09, 2023, 04:25:46 PM
We're lucky, just two bins green recycling and black rubbish there is an optional pay for brown garden waste bin.

My parents in Scotland, have red , green, black, brown 240ltr bins plus a blue box , and a grey food waste little bin.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on September 10, 2023, 02:15:37 PM
Food waste bin? That would never be used in our house.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on September 10, 2023, 02:44:26 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on September 10, 2023, 02:15:37 PMFood waste bin? That would never be used in our house.

It's only for grey food, and that doesn't sound appetising at all :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on September 10, 2023, 02:50:47 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on September 10, 2023, 02:15:37 PMFood waste bin? That would never be used in our house.

didn't know you'd got a husky as well John. :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on October 04, 2023, 01:26:11 PM
why does anyone use yokel ?

waiting for an item from fleabay for my daughter, seller apparently ships by this shower of clowns.

according to them it is awaiting customs clearance

but coming from Birmingham, uk, to Burgess Hill ,uk, since when was there a customs requirement for this.

load of  :censored: lieing  :censored:  trying to cover up their total  :censored:  service.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 04, 2023, 04:13:05 PM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on October 04, 2023, 01:26:11 PMaccording to them it is awaiting customs clearance
service.

That will be to get out of Birmingham.  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on October 04, 2023, 06:09:50 PM
According to Amazon, I have a parcel arriving by 8pm tonight.
When you click on see all updates..
It hasn't been put out for delivery...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on October 04, 2023, 08:02:12 PM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on October 04, 2023, 01:26:11 PMwhy does anyone use yokel ?

waiting for an item from fleabay for my daughter, seller apparently ships by this shower of clowns.

according to them it is awaiting customs clearance

but coming from Birmingham, uk, to Burgess Hill ,uk, since when was there a customs requirement for this.

load of  :censored: lieing  :censored:  trying to cover up their total  :censored:  service.

It may say on eBay that they ship from Brum but that's often not the case. Manchester and Liverpoo are also often stated but it often comes from China.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on October 10, 2023, 10:55:51 AM
parcel finally arrived yesterday, but funnily, no mention on the final tracking of any customs clearance etc.

Oct 9, 2023
3:29pm
Your parcel has been delivered to a safe place
GATWICK SERVICE CENTRE (YODEL)
Oct 9, 2023
3:27pm
Your parcel is with one of our drivers for delivery
GATWICK SERVICE CENTRE (YODEL)
Oct 9, 2023
3:26pm
Your parcel is being loaded. Check back for updates shortly.
GATWICK SERVICE CENTRE (YODEL)
Oct 8, 2023
11:12pm
Your parcel has arrived at your local depot
GATWICK SERVICE CENTRE (YODEL)
Oct 8, 2023
10:33am
Your parcel is at our national hub
HATFIELD TERMINAL
Sep 30, 2023
7:34pm
Your parcel is currently on its way to Yodel
CUSTOMER LOCATION
Sep 29, 2023
11:00pm
We're expecting your parcel from your sender. We will provide updates here once we receive it.
HAYES SERVICE CENTRE
Sep 29, 2023
5:38pm
Tracking number provided

by the way, the safe place was the front door step, in full view from the road.

thinking I'll refuse to buy from anyone who uses yokel as their choice of delivery.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 10, 2023, 11:19:44 AM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on October 10, 2023, 10:55:51 AMthinking I'll refuse to buy from anyone who uses yokel as their choice of delivery.

I have already told one company that if they insist on sending my items via DPD (Ireland), I will not be ordering from them again. Last Thursday, I got the notification that a parcel would be delivered. The courier rang me one hour after the appointed delivery time asking for my Eircode, (postcode). It did not arrive and was shown on the website as "unable to access front door/driveway of address". I got another notification on Friday - the parcel did not arrive, again shown as "unable to access" etc. On Saturday, no notification, but I got a phone call from a courier asking for the Eircode, (again). I gave it and asked the courier to leave the parcel in the coal bunker as I was not at home. The parcel arrived safe and sound,  :claphappy: , - the Eircode was printed on the address label!  :doh: . I think it should be part of the training for couriers that they pay a visit to 'Specsavers'. Whenever I am told that DPD will be delivering a parcel, I can bet a pound to a penny that it will not arrive on the scheduled day. I realise that I live a bit off the beaten track, but when I check the DPD tracking website, there are a few 'excuses' for non-delivery, but none of them say "driver could not be ars bothered to go out of his way!  And don't get me started on the number of emails I have sent to them about their atrocious service - even the 'boss' failed to acknowledge me when I sent one complaint direct to him. :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 11, 2023, 11:10:01 AM
I am off on a rant again!
On 16th August, Louisa was due to fly out from Dublin with Emerald Airlines, who fly the 'local' routes for Aer Lingus, for a few days in England. Five minutes before the flight, it was announced that the flight was cancelled. The alternatives were not acceptable. A few days later, I contacted Aer Lingus basically asking for the ticket costs to be refunded, plus compensation as per EU Regulations. On 12th September, after querying what was happening, Aer Lingus stated that they had passed the information to Emerald Airlines. Emerald Airlines were contacted but they have not had the courtesy to acknowledge me. To cut a long story short, I have contacted Aer Lingus today stating that if I do not get firm proposals for the payment of the monies due, by the weekend, I will be submitting a claim to the Courts Service in Ireland on Monday. Why do companies prat about so much, when the course of action they have to follow is legally mandated?  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 11, 2023, 11:17:26 AM
It is going from bad to worse!!! I have just received an email and text from DPD saying they will deliver a parcel this afternoon  :smackedface: - wonder which day I will actually get it?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 11, 2023, 12:15:57 PM
Sounds like this week is a bit of a 'write off' for you :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 11, 2023, 01:48:58 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on October 11, 2023, 12:15:57 PMSounds like this week is a bit of a 'write off' for you :(
Yup. I even sent an email to the Consumer Protection people 9 days ago about the matter. I received an automated reply virtually straight away stating that they "would get back to me shortly". I sent another email this morning asking what "get back to me shortly" actually meant. I'd go sit in the garden and watch the pond fish, but it's raining!  :(
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on October 11, 2023, 02:24:02 PM
Flippin' 'eck - wonders will never cease. Since my previous post, the Consumer people have got back to me, basically confirming what I already new, but at least they did get back to me and DPD have just delivered my parcel - earlier than stated!  ;D . And it's stopped raining. All this has happened in the last 40 minutes!
So that's me done with the 'Angry' thread ....... for now.  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on October 26, 2023, 09:28:44 PM
I am in a very angry mood. We paid nearly £3000 for flights, accommodation and lost pay, for myself, my wife and our three sons to visit Poland, with a trip to Auschwitz-Birkenau being the main item on the itinery.

They have a lift and ramps for the disabled, but despite them telling you "Due to the character of historical paving of roads and sidewalks within former Auschwitz I camp, persons with movement disabilities need someone else's assistance in the majority of cases", they don't tell you that the road surfaces are in such a bad state that it is pretty well impossible to push a wheelchair along them at all, with large, loose stones jamming the wheels and almost throwing the disabled person out (we only managed by myself or my eldest son supporting my wife to walk short stretches, while the other got the empty wheelchair there for her to sit again).

They could easily have placed wooden walkways along the edge of the roadways, without any permanent change to the site. They are not averse to changing things where they consider it necessary anyway - wooden huts have been rendered with concrete to preserve them and they have hacked into plastered walls to fit cables, modern sockets and security sensors.

They also failed to tell their guides their own rules - when we got to the first barracks (all the exhibits are in the various barracks), we helped her up the steps and brought the wheelchair to her, only for the guide to inform us that wheelchairs were not permitted inside and we had to get her out again. She spent the whole tour sitting outside in the (very heavy) rain and seeing nothing. I could not leave her alone, as her hands are not capable of moving the chair at all on such a surface and so I too was stuck in the rain and saw nothing.

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The tour guide could not even be bothered to let us know which door of each building the group would be coming out of.

At the end of the tour of Auschwitz I, the group went into a gas chamber and when we eventually worked out that they were going to leave by the other end, we had to rush round there (no easy task with the appalling road surface). We waited, only to eventually find that the group had already left and gone to the exit without us - we had to find the disabled ramp by ourselves.

Once out, we were within 50 metres of our hire-car, so I took my wife there and folded the wheelchair into the boot (total time 2 minutes) - but due to the previous lost time waiting at the gas chamber, I got within 20 metres of the bus, only to see the tour bus drive off to Birkenau without me - the guide could hardly have missed that the only disabled person in the group and their "carer" weren't there!

While we sat in the car, my wife went online and found Auschwitz's own web page, where she read "The access to historical buildings hosting the exhibitions is limited due to the fact that within the blocks, their ground floor level is ca. 70cm above the level of the adjacent area, while historical external stairs limit the possibility to install permanent elements (ramps, lifts) facilitating the access for people with movement disabilities. Persons moving on wheelchairs need someone else's assistance in order to reach the ground floor. Upper levels of the blocks are not accessible for persons moving on wheelchairs." So their own website clearly says that wheelchairs *ARE* allowed in all the buildings!

Basically their guide's failure to follow their own rules meant that the main purpose of our trip was lost entirely to us ... and myself and my wife were left with very bad colds too.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 26, 2023, 10:17:58 PM
That's just shocking, and the photo of your poor lady wife just sat in the rain is just heartbreaking
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on October 27, 2023, 12:52:30 AM
NOT good.  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on October 27, 2023, 08:38:36 AM
Not so much angry as spitting  :censored:  feathers

For some years now I've been using a Patient Access system whereby I can book appointments and order repeat prescriptions online. You have to log on at 07.30 and are given the days appointments available to book and Robert's your mother's brother.

So – 07.30 on the dot I log on and there's no list. I stay logged on and still no list. At 07.59 I thought I'd chance my arm and phone, to be told the surgery was closed and opened at 08.00. As soon as the time hit 08.00 I redialled and got some disembodied voice telling me various options, one of which was to stay on the line to be connected so I did. I was promptly informed I was 11th in the queue to speak to the reception. How the  :censored: does that happen?

I guess the alternative is to go to A & E and wait for 6 hours in the company of people with axes in their heads, limbs dropping off or just plain coughing their innards up all over the place.

We all know the NHS is busted but at least when you do get to see someone they are damned good.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Timbo66 on November 09, 2023, 07:01:38 PM
I`ve had this issue with my surgery. Twice I`ve rung 111, who`ve got onto the surgery, who then called me back within a couple of hours. May work in your area.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 16, 2023, 04:38:55 AM
I guess like many getting their car insurance renewal they've found a huge hike in the premium.
Mine is 52% :o
I believe insurers are blaming the increased costs of repairs etc., especially electric cars as the technology is just not understood by many mechanics at present
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on November 16, 2023, 09:39:18 AM
or they just screw us all yet again  :hmmm:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on November 16, 2023, 10:20:40 AM
No change there, then :no:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on November 16, 2023, 11:22:14 AM
I believe insurers are blaming the increased costs of repairs etc., especially electric cars as the technology is just not understood by many mechanics at present

so why not apply that only to drivers of electric cars. ?

to my mind just another excuse to screw motorists, no wonder so many just don't bother, and take their chances with being caught.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Yet_Another on November 16, 2023, 01:03:25 PM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on November 16, 2023, 11:22:14 AMso why not apply that only to drivers of electric cars. ?

Sorry for injecting a note of sanity, but if you hit an electric car with your petrol car, your insurance company will be paying for the electric car to be fixed. Or written off.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on November 16, 2023, 01:18:22 PM
so if I hit an artic, I'll be paying for it to be repaired or written off.

but that has always been the case. so I'm afraid I don't see where sanity occurs.

perhaps sanity would suggest that a driver with50 odd years without a claim should get a bigger no claims bonus than one with seven years.

perhaps sanity / common sense does not apply to car insurance, ie a rep doing a couple of hundred thousand miles a year is statistically more likely to have an accident than someone who only does five thousand miles a year.

don't work in motor insurance do you ?
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: martyn on November 16, 2023, 01:32:21 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on October 27, 2023, 08:38:36 AMNot so much angry as spitting  :censored:  feathers

For some years now I've been using a Patient Access system whereby I can book appointments and order repeat prescriptions online. You have to log on at 07.30 and are given the days appointments available to book and Robert's your mother's brother.

So – 07.30 on the dot I log on and there's no list. I stay logged on and still no list. At 07.59 I thought I'd chance my arm and phone, to be told the surgery was closed and opened at 08.00. As soon as the time hit 08.00 I redialled and got some disembodied voice telling me various options, one of which was to stay on the line to be connected so I did. I was promptly informed I was 11th in the queue to speak to the reception. How the  :censored: does that happen?

I guess the alternative is to go to A & E and wait for 6 hours in the company of people with axes in their heads, limbs dropping off or just plain coughing their innards up all over the place.

We all know the NHS is busted but at least when you do get to see someone they are damned good.


Sadly, Mick, that's the way my surgery's appointments has worked for years.

Phone at 0800 on the dot, if you're lucky you're about #20, after listening to about 2 mins advice that the surgery is busy with few appointments and warnings to not abuse staff,  and the hold list is up to 50 before the system overloads.

We used to be able to short circuit a bit by going in person to reception, but since Covid, you can't do that.

Martyn
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: MistyEyedWanderer on November 22, 2023, 05:13:28 PM
If there was a  'don't know whether to laugh or cry confused' thread I would use it.  But this will do  ;D

I have just received my excellent brand name tools to assist in my plywood N scale Empire. All well and good you might say.  However...I have a duplicate.  On the failure of the courier to leave goods safe as instructed when actually expecting it, something that turned out to be to do with not leaving due to insurance of high value goods. 

I gave up and went to a store and paid more so I could actually get the tools in my hands, expecting to get a refund from the original supplier.  Only now, it's been delivered! So I have two.  I only need one, I can't afford both, and now I am now expected to wait around for a courier that never delivered because it couldn't, that did and it wasn't supposed to, that will arrive later to collect tomorrow when I am not able.  It's the only way to get a refund apparently, as though ignored messages to cancel re-sending is somehow my fault?!
No one seems to want to take responsibility until I play the 'disabled card' to win the 'game' of customer service.  Droopy Poopy Delivery couldn't even deliver tea bags (really, they didn't) as they ignored the instructions on the system. 
And it's even more confusing when the once insured order now arrives uninsured and unsigned and not at all safe.
I don't have the energy for this which was the whole point of leaving safe for later to take all day to set it up, it's been a week since I ordered. 

Shame on FFX.  Were always really good before.  At least the girl in the customer chat was good, I'm  lost without that.

If you can follow this, your doing well  :confused1:   :*(   :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Fardap on November 23, 2023, 01:24:24 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on November 16, 2023, 04:38:55 AMI guess like many getting their car insurance renewal they've found a huge hike in the premium.
Mine is 52% :o
I believe insurers are blaming the increased costs of repairs etc., especially electric cars as the technology is just not understood by many mechanics at present

Ouch had mine through and it was just a £12 increase - I had been expecting it to be much more having read about others leaping.
Hastings Direct if interested - no connection just a now even happier customer.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on December 24, 2023, 01:59:02 PM
Just had my renewal through and the premium has gone from £386 to £1517. I had my car stolen last year but I recovered it with only minor damage to trim as it had a tracker. So I was expecting a slight rise... Cheapest I could find on line was £890 from Sainsbury's.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bob G on December 24, 2023, 02:21:39 PM
Quote from: martyn on November 16, 2023, 01:32:21 PMWe used to be able to short circuit... by going in person to reception, but since Covid, you can't do that.

Martyn

My wife got a viral infection earlier this week, which went into her eyes and she needed something better than Optrex.
Doctors didn't want to see her so they arranged a call from the pharmacist.

The pharmacist now plays the doctor's trump card and delays calling for hours so you know who is boss. Arranges a visit for her to see said pharmacist next day.

Next day my wife is trying to keep clear of other pharmacy customers as no one older than her should be exposed to the virus. After an hour of people barging through without masks on she finally manages to have the appointment with the pharmacist but has to put up with other people barging through for their prescriptions. The space for customers in the pharmacy is literally 5' x 10'. A good viral melting pot.

Pharmacist takes one look at her eyes and decides it is antibiotic eye drops she needs. She pays £8 for them.

If she had seen the doctor (or the doctor had seen her, even on a video call) she would have had the drops a day earlier and not had to pay for them. Being over 60 and all that.

Still, that's what it is all about nowadays. Saving the NHS money by paying for our medication which we paid for in all our taxes over all those years.

Meanwhile the rest of the world think they are immune to viruses and are going in completely unmasked, even though the pharmacy staff are wearing masks and the sign outside says everyone must wear a mask.

Bah!

Merry Christmas

Bob
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: AndrewPH on January 01, 2024, 03:14:25 AM
Spent 4 hours last night (10pm - 2am) hugging my trembling dog, trying to stop him going bat**** crazy from all the fireworks, firecrackers, gratuitous car horns and revving engines in our suburb.

It's just numbers on a calendar. Totally meaningless. People are so $%^& stupid. And inconsiderate.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 01, 2024, 04:42:12 AM
I guess many pet owners will agree. I know I would have when I had a cat who cowered under the wardrobe during any fireworks, refusing to come out for me.
Last night they started around 17.00 and ran through until after midnight, and yet money is supposed to be tight. Some obviously have money to burn ::)
However, it's difficult not to be labelled a 'killjoy' as countless millions do enjoy fireworks for some unexplained reason. Evidently NYE fireworks harks back to 7th century China. Certainly what is spent on them could be put to better use IMHO.
It wouldn't be so bad if events like Guy Fawkes Night was a 'one off' but we get weeks of it in the UK and some are shocking even to this old codger. Never mind the 'Roman Candles' and 'Catherine Wheels' of my youth, the fireworks of today sound like the end of the world!
For some reason, fireworks on birthdays has also taken hold in this country.
I'm against them but am sure I'm in a minority
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on January 01, 2024, 05:54:34 AM
Fireworks are illegal in NSW, and haven't been available for years, probably the mid eighties. I do remember setting some off (Catherine wheels, etc)  in our backyard just after we'd moved into  Chez Bealman, which was 1981.

However, they must be available somewhere as there's always some going off in the next suburb over to us.

Not that I heard em - I was in bed at 10, and deep in the land of nod! I was told by Mrs B, who stayed up till midnight to watch the Sydney Harbour display on telly.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on January 01, 2024, 08:55:12 AM
"I'm against them but am sure I'm in a minority"

now a minority of two.

and as you say, you cannot plan and get pills for your animals, as they go off anytime of the year.

also, some of the debris is quite large, a couple of years ago I picked up a rocket stick in the garden, just under 3 foot long, and 1/2 inch by 1/2 inch timber.

mind you, made a great plant support.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: dannyboy on January 01, 2024, 02:52:16 PM
Make that three!

To me, unless at an organised, properly run and licensed display, they should be totally banned.

Addit: And just to clarify, firework displays should be paid for from private enterprise, not council funds. (And I don't think they are legal in Ireland unless licensed).
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: JBQFC on January 01, 2024, 05:07:00 PM
Make that four i hate the things always have done should be only available for licensed shows
It is also a pain for me having to be up at 4.30 am for work today

John
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: zwilnik on January 01, 2024, 06:19:06 PM
There are very good modern fireworks that are a lot quieter (more of a slow 'pushy' explosive mix than a fast 'bang')

Combine that with the rise of drone shows and there's no reason the organised shows should be the absolute pain that they are and no reason to allow sales of fireworks for personal use.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on January 01, 2024, 08:17:30 PM
Although we have not had any fireworks for a number of years, I have always preferred to have a small home event than go to an organised event. Especially with children, a home event allows easy access to the toilet; there's no worry of getting separated in the crowd and darkness; there's no need to travel; you can arrange food and drink at a fraction of the price; you can reschedule for another night if the weather is bad; you can do it at the time that suits your family.

The few times that I have gone to an organised event, getting there; queuing; trying to keep young children together in the crowds; rain/wind and sodden ground have been awful.

The three accidents with fireworks that I have witnessed have all been at organised events - 1) setting fire to a house in the street next to the park, 2) & 3) errant fireworks hitting members of the public in the crowd.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: PaulCheffus on January 01, 2024, 10:30:50 PM
Quote from: stevewalker on January 01, 2024, 08:17:30 PMThe three accidents with fireworks that I have witnessed have all been at organised events - 1) setting fire to a house in the street next to the park, 2) & 3) errant fireworks hitting members of the public in the crowd.

Hi

Funnily enough the only accident I've seen involving fireworks was also at an organised event. A rocket went in the wrong direction straight into the van containing the stock of fireworks not yet setup with the enviable consequence.

Cheers

Paul
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: thebrighton on January 02, 2024, 02:51:00 PM
To improve the patient service Eastbourne and Hastings hospitals combined a few years ago so each could specialise in certain areas. On the face of it a good idea but not so in practice.

It seems that without fail the service required is always in Hastings whilst we live in Eastbourne. Indeed, if I look out the upstairs windows I can see Eastbourne hospital!

My son needs to see a specialist and after a 6 month wait his appointment has come through and, of course, it's in Hastings. Trouble is it's 3 appointments, Monday, Wednesday and Friday in one week all at approx midday. He has no way of getting there, it's 20 miles and 45 minutes by car so I would have to take him and then pay the extortionate car park fees. It would also mean both of us taking all 3 days off work. Alternatively if in Eastbourne it would take him 5 minutes to pop in from work.

As a result I rang them as I know they have clinics at both hospitals for his condition. "Yes, we can arrange for the appointment to be in Eastbourne but he'll have to rejoin the 6 month waiting list".

Aaaargh!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: jpendle on January 08, 2024, 10:06:01 PM
I ordered 2 Zimo MX170N decoders and a Roco 10808 from Coastal DCC.

They've shipped just one decoder >:(

On careful review, I only ordered one  :doh:

What a pollock! (A possible alternative to cod or haddock)

John P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: The Q on January 10, 2024, 06:08:33 PM
16 years ago I realised I was going diabetic, they wouldn't take a booking at reception, "phone up at 08:00 next day they said".. Problem was I need to be at work then and when I tried by the time I got through all slots had been taken.

Luckily Lloyds Chemists, did free diabetic tests, I got a letter from them, put that on the reception desk , and finally got an appointment...
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 29, 2024, 10:11:06 AM
Apple Support? Pah!
You get pushed from pillar to post and end up speaking to someone who obviously has not got a clue what they're talking about ::)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Trainfish on January 29, 2024, 12:41:04 PM
At least you got to speak to someone on a similar level  :D
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 29, 2024, 03:05:19 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on January 29, 2024, 12:41:04 PMAt least you got to speak to someone on a similar level  :D

But I spoke far better English :P
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: crewearpley40 on January 29, 2024, 03:28:08 PM
It is concerning people think they know the product  and may or may not have been trained yet blag their way through and say let me have a look at the notes I have.

Or its irritating they have poor customer service skills and in the wrong job.

I sympathise with your frustration mick
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on January 31, 2024, 12:25:40 PM
It all started with a scanner problem, which after buying a new scanner same problem persisted, finally tracked down to loss of power via USB; next tried my other PC, that worked, however rather than copy everything to the other computer had the bright idea of swapping the hard drives between the PCs - serious failure - neither PC would boot, so tried to reload Windows from disc:- now 4 days from original problem I now have two useless PCs and have to use a laptop. I have a new/refurb PC coming on Friday.
I've also somehow screwed up my email,  password problem even after setting a new one, have to go to Virgin media site to read incoming mail.
Don't it make you wanna spit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: joe cassidy on January 31, 2024, 12:30:22 PM
At least your hi-fi system is still working Mike  ;)
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on January 31, 2024, 01:14:10 PM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on January 31, 2024, 12:25:40 PMI've also somehow screwed up my email,  password problem even after setting a new one, have to go to Virgin media site to read incoming mail.
Don't it make you wanna spit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As they say "To err is human. To really foul things up get a computer"
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on January 31, 2024, 02:15:48 PM
Quote from: joe cassidy on January 31, 2024, 12:30:22 PMAt least your hi-fi system is still working Mike  ;)
True, but most of my music is stored on one of the PCs organised as 75 x3 hour play lists, so not getting played.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Malc on February 03, 2024, 04:11:46 PM
Can't you swap the drives back. Unfortunately the operating system relies on the bios that's on the motherboard, so unless the motherboards were identical, your system won't work.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on February 03, 2024, 08:48:59 PM
I've got one back working,  but the other is being a right PITA, I keep getting error messages re drivers, or partitions, the latter even when I try installing Windows onto a blank freshly formatted SSD.
Also having problems going on line, works fine from the laptop but only intermittently from a PC, same cable, router and modem.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 03, 2024, 11:14:39 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on January 31, 2024, 01:14:10 PM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on January 31, 2024, 12:25:40 PMI've also somehow screwed up my email,  password problem even after setting a new one, have to go to Virgin media site to read incoming mail.
Don't it make you wanna spit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As they say "To err is human. To really foul things up get a computer"

Or some kid in nappies who has no idea what they're talking about or doing, which is all I seem to encounter when dealing with phone issues.

Which reminds me, Vodafone Australia have "upgraded" their service, and I can't make or receive calls, even though text and data are fine. This means I have to GET A NEW PHONE!  :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on February 13, 2024, 10:43:28 AM
back where I belong [sorry @Trainfish]

with Hattons not having any paint stock I went on fleabay and ordered three cans from a seller.
wotta mistakea to makea [sorry been watching allo allo]

took 4 days for the seller to get something called collect + to pick up the parcel, and take it to a Yodel drop off point.
24 hrs for yokel to collect it from there
finally arrived at Gatwick yesterday, and 'loaded on van 08>22 - out for delivery' according to yokel's lying tracking site.
no updates so 'chatted' to a bot at lunchtime which said was with the driver at 09.15.
needless to say, no delivery.
tracking saying the same this morning so bot again.
apparently not due for delivery till 14th, so it's sitting in a van at Gatwick for 3 days.

why does anyone use this useless pile of  :poop: if they actually care about the service they give their customers.

another parcel via Herpes took only 5 days to arrive, and that included a weekend. so far yokel are on day 9 but the parcel is having a rest.

apparently yokel has been bought out by some other firm, couldn't have cost more than 50p. :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 13, 2024, 11:55:47 AM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on February 13, 2024, 10:43:28 AManother parcel via Herpes took only 5 days to arrive, and that included a weekend. so far yokel are on day 9 but the parcel is having a rest.


I reckon your parcel is laid up with travel sickness, Alan
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on February 13, 2024, 03:06:26 PM
took HB out for his second walk this afternoon, and tripped over the parcel on the front doorstep, in the rain.
no ring on the doorbell, and the bot said it was sitting at Gatwick.

luckily rattle cans do not get wet, but what a useless pile of clowns.

still, at least I can now start spraying my models  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Dorsetmike on February 13, 2024, 05:31:27 PM
Finally got them working again, had to get a technician in, took hi, about 3 hours, bad news however is all my pics, music etc lost, gonna take me a few days to recover what I can.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bealman on February 14, 2024, 02:45:18 AM
Built in obsolescence.  :veryangry:

Well, I'm on a new phone typing this. A cheap one, but $300 nevertheless, and $300  I shouldn't have had to spend, as far as I'm concerned.

Why? Because my provider (Vodafone, by the way) upgraded to 5G. I haven't been able to make or receive voice calls for a month.

As the original function of a phone was to do just that, it's kinda ironic that I can still use my old phone to do everything but that.

 :veryangry:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bad Raven on February 14, 2024, 06:06:01 AM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on February 13, 2024, 03:06:26 PMtook HB out for his second walk this afternoon, and tripped over the parcel on the front doorstep, in the rain.
no ring on the doorbell, and the bot said it was sitting at Gatwick.

luckily rattle cans do not get wet, but what a useless pile of clowns.

still, at least I can now start spraying my models  :thumbsup:

Frustrating, but you'll have to do "better" to beat what happened to me.

YODEL tried to deliver a GF 2-8-0 Locomotive from Hattons, package clearly marked fragile with red/white stickers on both main faces, unavoidable to miss.

No tracking info, so no-one home.

SO, he threw it over a locked 6' wooden gate on a 3' wide concrete surface side access. Must have really thrown it as it was on the floor 12' plus along the alley, exposed to rain (and it was).

Then he put a card through the door.  6 hours later I got home from work................

Yes, it was trashed, valve gear broken both sides, totally obliterated one side, wet through box to plastic liner (the older style packing).

And the REAL irony?

I'd had issues with Yodel before and so had specifically instructed Hattons to use Royal Mail ONLY.

They still decided it'd get their faster with YODEL...........

That was quite a long time ago now, and it STILL winds me up!

 :veryangry:  :censored:  :veryangry:  :censored:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Bad Raven on February 14, 2024, 06:33:10 AM
Quote from: Browning 9mm on February 13, 2024, 10:43:28 AMback where I belong [sorry @Trainfish]
why does anyone use this useless pile of  :poop: if they actually care about the service they give their customers.

Apparently yokel has been bought out by some other firm, couldn't have cost more than 50p. :veryangry:

YODEL have been bought by a consortium called YDLGP.  Its a moot point if the livery will be rainbows with carefully chosen and announced pronouns.

YODEL revenue was over £561 million in previous financial year and they employ "thousands", hopefully at least some not having the seemingly standard from long and bitter experience amoeba brains, though sadly I have not met them.

Around here we get VERY good reliable service from DPD and (surprisingly?) most times from My Hermes/EVRI.  I am concerned though as DPD are moving my area from Dartford depot to Croydon, an area of it renowned for traffic gridlock.

My local "Collect" shop usually managed to lose anything I get sent there, and I have not only waited nearly an hour while they searched (between other customers) but on one occasion had to leave and return two days later. Allegedly it was flagged as delivered for collection when it wasn't.  THAT supplier not only repaid me the full carriage charge, but paid me for the 120 mile round trip I was forced to make TO collect it.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on February 14, 2024, 09:11:51 AM
I'm lucky here too with DPD and Evri, both having drivers who seem to care about their service to customers.
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Ed on February 14, 2024, 10:03:56 AM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on February 13, 2024, 05:31:27 PMFinally got them working again, had to get a technician in, took hi, about 3 hours, bad news however is all my pics, music etc lost, gonna take me a few days to recover what I can.

No back up of pictures and music Mike?

Ed
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Newportnobby on February 14, 2024, 11:01:30 AM
Quote from: Bealman on February 14, 2024, 02:45:18 AMBuilt in obsolescence.  :veryangry:

Well, I'm on a new phone typing this. A cheap one, but $300 nevertheless, and $300  I shouldn't have had to spend, as far as I'm concerned.

Why? Because my provider (Vodafone, by the way) upgraded to 5G. I haven't been able to make or receive voice calls for a month.

As the original function of a phone was to do just that, it's kinda ironic that I can still use my old phone to do everything but that.

 :veryangry:

They call it progress, George.
Basically "We're doomed, Mr. Mainwaring, we're doomed"
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: Browning 9mm on February 14, 2024, 12:42:51 PM
but you can have fun with firms that think you have a smartphone, they try so hard to get you to do things, then you say the 'but it isn't working on my flip phone' and their heads explode. :claphappy:
Title: Re: The angry thread
Post by: stevewalker on February 15, 2024, 05:54:53 PM
Our landline can be fun - the phone in the living room is a 1940s, rotary dial phone ... so no tones, no hash and no star.