0-4-0 locos in n gauge?

Started by samjammer, January 05, 2024, 06:54:35 PM

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samjammer

Hello All, I'm fairly new to n gauge and seem to be having trouble locating any 0-4-0 shunting type locos. 
- Is it the case that they never went into production - perhaps because of issues running such small chassis on small gauge points or some other reason?
- Are there any models generally available or is my only option to purchasing a kit?

zwilnik

They are somewhat thin on the ground. There aren't any in UK outline ready to run (RTR) but there has been a Fleischmann 0-4-0 produced that you might be able to pickup on eBay. There are quite a few chassis available now that you can put a kit body on (3D printed ones being quite popular) as well as the option of removing the centre wheels from the Minitrix T3/Dock Tank chassis as per the ones @maridunian has made elsewhere on this forum. (his Many Tricks Mine thread has some good examples of various 0-4-0 and 0-6-0 shunters and he has various kit bodies on Shapeways). https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=28271.0
 

JanW

#2
As far as I know the only RTR 0-4-0 that is available now is from Kato .
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134865728735?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=neidlb4eqju&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Looks very German to me but maybe it might be of use.

Edit: this is not an option, two others mentioned below that the motor is in one of the coaches!

ntpntpntp

#3
There have been a few :)   Some have dropped out of production now, I suspect mainly due to changes in motor availability and also lack of space for DCC decoders :(   They can still be found on ebay and other second-hand sources.

Of the examples I own, the two oldest are probably the Arnold and Fleischmann 0-4-0Ts, both date from the early 70s. Both have been very popular for use as chassis for British loco body kits in both N and 009.  Neither are in production at the moment.

https://www.spurweite-n.de/ncontent/ndb/ndb-artdetails.asp?ID=453054205


https://www.spurweite-n.de/ncontent/ndb/ndb-artdetails.asp?ID=645


Ibertren offered a loco quite similar to the Fleischmann.
https://www.spurweite-n.de/ncontent/ndb/ndb-artdetails.asp?ID=453053962


Bachmann made a "Docksider" in various forms
https://www.spurweite-n.de/ncontent/ndb/ndb-artdetails.asp?ID=45305544



Then you have the small diesel shunters such as the Köf II made by Arnold and Minitrix (which is available DCC fitted )
https://www.spurweite-n.de/ncontent/ndb/ndb-artdetails.asp?ID=2124


... and it's larger sister the Köf III by Arnold and Ibertren
https://www.spurweite-n.de/ncontent/ndb/ndb-artdetails.asp?ID=3001


The little Swiss shunting tractor by Arnold
https://www.spurweite-n.de/ncontent/ndb/ndb-artdetails.asp?ID=3933



Arnold (and later Fleischmann) have made short steeplecab electic locos. Kato make a longer steeplecab.
https://www.spurweite-n.de/ncontent/ndb/ndb-artdetails.asp?ID=2561



There are other larger/longer 0-4-0 diesels by Minitrix, Lima (which was rubbish) and probably others.

So... it depends what it is you're looking for exactly?
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mrobs2002

#4
There's the KATO Pocket Line electric shunter: https://traintrax.co.uk/10-504-1-pocket-line-electric-freight-train-pack

I've got one of these and honestly it's probably my best performing loco.

The steam train mentioned above actually has the motor in the coach, so the loco won't move on it's own.

Steven B

There's also the Tomix and Bachmann Percy. Would need a new smoke box door and probably a repaint too.

Steven B

Coyote

NBrass body on an NDrive chassis
Visit Mossdale's YouTube channel for a view of a 1920's LMS railway in North Yorkshire or Mossdale Road for some shunting

https://youtube.com/@MossdaleNGaugeRailway

AlexanderJesse

Quote from: JanW on January 05, 2024, 07:37:27 PMAs far as I know the only RTR 0-4-0 that is available now is from Kato .
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134865728735?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=neidlb4eqju&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Looks very German to me but maybe it might be of use.
That Kato is without motor. The motor is in one of the passenger wagons.
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maridunian

#8
Hi - I've been very frustrated that as @ntpntpntp describes we are much worse served with small locos than we were 30 years ago.

As @zwilnik kindly mentions I've taken to designing 3D printed bodies for various available chasses (including some built to order by N-Drive Productions).

I've also designed some UK-outline wagon, coach and loco bodies for the Kato Pocketline 0-4-0 steam set and several diesel bodyshells for the Kato Electric loco/tram chassis, which can be purchased separately (Kato 11-109/11-110).

Links below.

Mike
My layout: Mwynwr Tryciau Colliery, the Many Tricks Mine.

My 3D Modelshop: Maridunian's Models

Bingley Hall

There were also these from the early 70s made by Rivarossi and sold under the Atlas and Concor labels. I have a couple, and they don't run too badly for their age.



Dorsetmike



Peco white metal kit SR B4 class dock tank on Arnold chassis, will also fit similar Fleischmann chassis with a bit of hacking, not tried it on any other chassis. Probably no longer in production, so keep looking on Ebay.
Cheers MIKE
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ntpntpntp

#12
@Dorsetmike  Yes, I mentioned the Arnold chassis in my earlier reply.  I'm not sure when production ceased (Spurweite-n database reckons 1992) but they aren't available new at the moment. No idea if they'll come back.

I've not seen the Peco/Wills loco body kits available new for a long time, again I don't know when they ceased.

I notice yours is missing the upper slidebar and linkage, it's a separate part that's often lost.  I drew up a 3D print for spares



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Bob G

Hi @ntpntpntp

Are those side frames still available. I have three of these locos and bits have come off over the years. I'd have to do an inspection to say how many sets though.

Bob

Doc Pye

Quote from: maridunian on January 06, 2024, 10:21:10 AMHi - I've been very frustrated that as @ntpntpntp describes we are much worse served with small locos than we were 30 years ago.

As @zwilnik kindly mentions I've taken to designing 3D printed bodies for various available chasses (including some built to order by N-Drive Productions).

I've also designed some UK-outline wagon, coach and loco bodies for the Kato Pocketline 0-4-0 steam set and several diesel bodyshells for the Kato Electric loco/tram chassis, which can be purchased separately (Kato 11-109/11-110).

Links below.

Mike

I really like your 3D models Mike but I will never again do business with Shapeways, as they just produce junk and are way too expensive. I only print my own items these days. I know you have said before that you don't want to sell the files...is this still the same??? Still hoping one day to be able to print one of your models.  :beers:

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