Re-numbering Farish/Dapol diesels

Started by Mr PJ, October 14, 2014, 07:17:34 PM

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mk1gtstu

This is the one I have & use for my weathering,

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Professional-Double-Action-Airbrush-Air-Brush-Kit-0-25mm-Gravity-Feed-Craft-/120924532383?pt=UK_Crafts_DrawingSupplies_EH&hash=item1c27a9ee9f#ht_2617wt_1331

It came with the compressor, doesn't even have any spare nozzle/needles, its just a cheapo one but seems to work well.

cheers, Stu.
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Dr Al

Interesting - thanks Stu. I don't see why I shouldn't be able to get a fairly good pattern with the RDG one - I suspect that it's overdue a new needle/ nozzle though as it's been well used in both my rail and aircraft modelling. The 0.25mm nozzle on that is a good guide.

What pressure do you spray at, and do you particularly thin the paint or do anything out of the ordinary?

Cheers,
Alan
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mk1gtstu

You should get a good spray pattern with your airbrush, it looks to be a good one.
I run my compressor at around 25psi, I use Railmatch enamel paints thinned with white spirit until its the consistency of milk & thats it really, seems to work well enough for me, I'm no expert on doing airbrushing, only been doing it for a year or so by just practising & attacking my locos & rolling stock  :D

cheers, Stu.
My Box File Layout (South Wales Valleys Colliery) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10430.0

Porthkerry (A South Wales layout in BR Blue) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=39654.0

Abercwm Colliery (South Wales Area) https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=47521.0

Dr Al

Quote from: mk1gtstu on October 15, 2014, 06:35:28 PM
I'm no expert on doing airbrushing, only been doing it for a year or so by just practising & attacking my locos & rolling stock  :D

You have the wizard touch - there's no doubt  ;)

I can get very nice repaints with my RDG brush, and have done a fair few, but I know from aircraft modelling that weathering with it is a challenge - I've used it to do exhaust staining and suchlike, but usually it takes 4 or 5 attempts and much rubbing off of paint before I'm happy! That's 1:72 scale, so 1:148 N will be even harder!! If I can illustrate with a slightly OT example (Sorry folks, I've only done airbrush weathering on planes so far  :angel: !) :




Cheers,
Alan
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If Dr Al is online he may be able to provide a more comprehensive answer.

"We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces."Dr. Carl Sagan

mk1gtstu

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Quote from: Dr Al on October 15, 2014, 06:46:48 PM
Quote from: mk1gtstu on October 15, 2014, 06:35:28 PM
I'm no expert on doing airbrushing, only been doing it for a year or so by just practising & attacking my locos & rolling stock  :D

You have the wizard touch - there's no doubt  ;)

I can get very nice repaints with my RDG brush, and have done a fair few, but I know from aircraft modelling that weathering with it is a challenge - I've used it to do exhaust staining and suchlike, but usually it takes 4 or 5 attempts and much rubbing off of paint before I'm happy! That's 1:72 scale, so 1:148 N will be even harder!! If I can illustrate with a slightly OT example (Sorry folks, I've only done airbrush weathering on planes so far  :angel: !) :




Cheers,
Alan

Very nice Hurricane!  :thumbsup:

I don't know about a wizard touch, I have a few disasters doing airbrushing now & then!  :D
cheers, Stu.
My Box File Layout (South Wales Valleys Colliery) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10430.0

Porthkerry (A South Wales layout in BR Blue) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=39654.0

Abercwm Colliery (South Wales Area) https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=47521.0

Dr Al

Quote from: mk1gtstu on October 15, 2014, 06:49:19 PM
Very nice!  :thumbsup:

Thanks, but not quite good enough for N gauge locos yet (which are half the size remember) - a bit too grainy I think.

Cheers,
Alan
Quote from: Roy L S
If Dr Al is online he may be able to provide a more comprehensive answer.

"We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces."Dr. Carl Sagan

mk1gtstu

Maybe its worth you getting one of these cheap airbrushes & giving it a try? It may give you a finer spray than the one you have?

cheers, Stu.
My Box File Layout (South Wales Valleys Colliery) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10430.0

Porthkerry (A South Wales layout in BR Blue) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=39654.0

Abercwm Colliery (South Wales Area) https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=47521.0

Dr Al

Quote from: mk1gtstu on October 15, 2014, 06:56:44 PM
Maybe its worth you getting one of these cheap airbrushes & giving it a try? It may give you a finer spray than the one you have?

It's definitely a possibility - think I'll play first with my brush and see what performance I can get, but will keep hold of your link for future reference - shows that you don't need very expensive tools if you do things right  :thumbsup:

Cheers,
Alan
Quote from: Roy L S
If Dr Al is online he may be able to provide a more comprehensive answer.

"We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces."Dr. Carl Sagan

mk1gtstu

Yes have a try 1st & see how you get on.
As an example this is the sort of fine spray effect I can get with mine (cruel close ups of some of my repaint projects)





cheers, Stu.
My Box File Layout (South Wales Valleys Colliery) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10430.0

Porthkerry (A South Wales layout in BR Blue) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=39654.0

Abercwm Colliery (South Wales Area) https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=47521.0

Dr Al

These are all a superb standard, Stu.

Have you considered lowering your 37s? It's not so hard to do and really improves the look:



Left is standard, right has been modified.

I have a spare class 47, so it might be a choice as a weathering victim....  :angel:

Cheers,
Alan
Quote from: Roy L S
If Dr Al is online he may be able to provide a more comprehensive answer.

"We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces."Dr. Carl Sagan

mk1gtstu

Thankyou, yes I have lowered some of my 37's since those pics were taken & it does improve them a bit I think,
the one on the right in this pic I've lowered..


need to take some better photos of them really  :-[

cheers, Stu.
My Box File Layout (South Wales Valleys Colliery) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10430.0

Porthkerry (A South Wales layout in BR Blue) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=39654.0

Abercwm Colliery (South Wales Area) https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=47521.0

Dr Al

Nice, makes those 37s really come alive.

Well, inspired by your works, I've pulled out my spare 47 and renumbered it in preparation for a first go with the airbrush:



Fingers crossed!  :worried:

Cheers,
Alan
Quote from: Roy L S
If Dr Al is online he may be able to provide a more comprehensive answer.

"We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces."Dr. Carl Sagan

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