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Title: Acer Aspire E1 531 laptop charging problems - Help Needed
Post by: REGP on July 21, 2019, 12:55:15 PM
I'm having serious problems getting my laptop to work.

I hadn't used my laptop for about a week and had been using it for about half an hour when it indicated a low battery state. I immediately plugged in the charger and made sure all was switched on.

After a few minutes the screen went blank and the blue light on the start button went out.

Pressing the start button only results in the blue light blinking 5 times and then nothing.

My wife has an identical laptop so ( with permission ) I borrowed her Acer charger in case mine wasn't working but it made no difference.

I then borrowed the battery from her laptop and great my laptop sprung into life and I quickly did a back up.  But her battery wasn't charging either dropping from 28% down to 21%.

So I removed her battery and put it back in her laptop, plugged in the charger ( to her laptop ) but the power level continued to drop down from 21% to 15% before I turned it off.

Now we have two laptops we can't use.  I know I can buy a new battery but that's no use if  I can't charge it.

Can anyone offer me some practical advice on this problem, bearing in mind
I'm no techie and wouldn't dare look inside the laptops but is there anything I can do?

Perhaps I should've done something in addition to making sure the laptop was off when I removed or replaced batteries?

Any practical advice would be much appreciated.

Ray


Title: Re: Acer Aspire E1 531 laptop charging problems - Help Needed
Post by: cjdodd on July 21, 2019, 01:40:03 PM
Take out the battery and the charger. Hold down the power button for 15seconds. There is a capacitor on the motherboard that holds a change and stop the battery from charging. Holding down the power button drains it.

If that does not work then its probably something with the charging circuit on the laptop.
Title: Re: Acer Aspire E1 531 laptop charging problems - Help Needed
Post by: REGP on July 21, 2019, 02:50:39 PM
Thanks @cjdodd (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2929)

Unfortunately that didn't work on either laptop.

I don't suppose you have any other suggestion that might help?

Ray

Title: Re: Acer Aspire E1 531 laptop charging problems - Help Needed
Post by: cjdodd on July 21, 2019, 02:54:37 PM
Sounds like the perfect time to treat yourself to a new laptop
Title: Re: Acer Aspire E1 531 laptop charging problems - Help Needed
Post by: REGP on July 21, 2019, 03:25:38 PM
Nice idea but not likely at moment.
Title: Re: Acer Aspire E1 531 laptop charging problems - Help Needed
Post by: ntpntpntp on July 21, 2019, 03:35:26 PM
Seems very odd that both laptops now have problems after you say you swapped the batteries over and then back again.  So you're saying neither charger will charge either of the laptops?

Are you sure the mains socket is working  :D ??
Title: Re: Acer Aspire E1 531 laptop charging problems - Help Needed
Post by: REGP on July 21, 2019, 03:49:20 PM
Yep that's about it @ntpntpntp (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5885)
Just tried wife's laptop and charger in different socket after holding down button for 30 seconds still didn't start charging.

Once battery and charger reconnected and power button pressed blue light still blinks 5 times and nothing happens
Title: Re: Acer Aspire E1 531 laptop charging problems - Help Needed
Post by: njee20 on July 21, 2019, 03:53:59 PM
So will the laptop run, or not? If it's plugged into the mains the battery is superfluous. Indeed common advice for a deeply discharged battery is to turn on the laptop without the battery fitted, and fit it once the laptop has booted. If it does come on, but just won't charge I'd suggest that. If It won't turn on, even on AC then the battery is not the issue.

Have you got a light on the charger somewhere? There usually is, to indicate that's getting power.
Title: Re: Acer Aspire E1 531 laptop charging problems - Help Needed
Post by: REGP on July 21, 2019, 04:02:08 PM
@njee20 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1147)
Removed battery from wife's laptop, plugged charger in pressed power button and no blue light and no life on screen.

Changed charger and socket repeated exercise still no blue light or screen.

Neither charger is fitted with light
Title: Re: Acer Aspire E1 531 laptop charging problems - Help Needed
Post by: njee20 on July 21, 2019, 04:29:36 PM
That points to the chargers being faulty, which is weird, possibly some strange voltage spike in yours fried it, and then you repeated with your wife's.

Have you got a multimeter to check the output? Red probe down the charger, black on the outside.
Title: Re: Acer Aspire E1 531 laptop charging problems - Help Needed
Post by: jpendle on July 21, 2019, 05:14:28 PM
Quote from: njee20 on July 21, 2019, 04:29:36 PM
That points to the chargers being faulty, which is weird, possibly some strange voltage spike in yours fried it, and then you repeated with your wife's.

Have you got a multimeter to check the output? Red probe down the charger, black on the outside.

And put it in DC Volts mode.

John P
Title: Re: Acer Aspire E1 531 laptop charging problems - Help Needed
Post by: REGP on July 21, 2019, 05:31:18 PM
Tried a multi metre on the chargers did not get a reading but couldn't get Red prob very far into the plug.

Had plugged charger into one of the lap tops  and left charging (in theory at least) for an hour but again nothing improved so @jpendle (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3871) I'll start exploring your suggestion.
Title: Re: Acer Aspire E1 531 laptop charging problems - Help Needed
Post by: Railwaygun on July 21, 2019, 06:13:52 PM
a bent paperclip is a good extension for the prongs of a multimeter
- wrap it around the prong

may be worth getting a new charger   

https://www.amazon.co.uk/LAPTOP-CHARGER-ES1-512-ASPIRE-S3-391/dp/B07HRK3B3M/ref=sr_1_53?crid=2C64NKLHFAJP1&keywords=acer+aspire+e1-531+charger&qid=1563728246&s=gateway&sprefix=charger+acer+aspire+E1+531%2Caps%2C134&sr=8-53 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/LAPTOP-CHARGER-ES1-512-ASPIRE-S3-391/dp/B07HRK3B3M/ref=sr_1_53?crid=2C64NKLHFAJP1&keywords=acer+aspire+e1-531+charger&qid=1563728246&s=gateway&sprefix=charger+acer+aspire+E1+531%2Caps%2C134&sr=8-53)


https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=acer+aspire+e1-531+charger&crid=2C64NKLHFAJP1&sprefix=charger+acer+aspire+E1+531%2Caps%2C134&ref=nb_sb_ss_i_1_26 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=acer+aspire+e1-531+charger&crid=2C64NKLHFAJP1&sprefix=charger+acer+aspire+E1+531%2Caps%2C134&ref=nb_sb_ss_i_1_26)

if the PCs are dead, we can advise how to transfer the data...
Title: Re: Acer Aspire E1 531 laptop charging problems - Help Needed
Post by: Malc on July 21, 2019, 06:25:00 PM
As @Njee20 says, take the battery out and try just using the charger. The laptop should work.
Title: Re: Acer Aspire E1 531 laptop charging problems - Help Needed
Post by: Izzy on July 21, 2019, 07:43:26 PM
Most unlikely given the sequence of events, and a (very) long shot I know, but just in case.... have you checked the fuses in the charger plugs? Or swopped the charger leads over with the bricks. Might be a broken wire.

Izzy
Title: Re: Acer Aspire E1 531 laptop charging problems - Help Needed
Post by: REGP on July 21, 2019, 09:45:26 PM
Issy thanks but fuses checked and OK

Charger output listed as 19v @ 3.42amps

Found an old Sony Charger output listed as 19.5 v @ 4.7amps decided not to use it so will look for new charger locally tomorrow.

Title: Re: Acer Aspire E1 531 laptop charging problems - Help Needed
Post by: njee20 on July 21, 2019, 10:17:11 PM
Have you checked yours with the multimeter? Edit: (sorry, missed your post saying you had), below still stands though.

The Sony one almost certainly a different plug, but you really need to find out why your laptop appears to have blown up 2 chargers, or it'll probably instantly blow up a 3rd.

If you don't know what you're doing (and I freely admit I don't know what to suggest, that's a very odd problem) may I politely suggest you give it to someone who does, better than throwing money at chargers.
Title: Re: Acer Aspire E1 531 laptop charging problems - Help Needed
Post by: REGP on July 25, 2019, 12:33:58 PM
Thanks for all the advice guys, both chargers appear to have been fried by the fault on my laptop

New charger received last night.

Battery removed from wife's laptop, new charger connected and laptop springs into life when switched on.

Battery refitted and it starts to charge, reaches 100% after about half an hour.

Not sure about using charger with my laptop in case fault still present and new charger gets fried. I suspect broken hinge above input socket may be cause of original problem.
Ray