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Title: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: woodbury22uk on February 12, 2017, 10:07:01 AM
New announcement last evening.

https://www.facebook.com/CRail-Intermodal-248366188521067/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE&fref=nf (https://www.facebook.com/CRail-Intermodal-248366188521067/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE&fref=nf)
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: njee20 on February 12, 2017, 10:25:09 AM
Saw that on RMWeb yesterday, very exciting. I've got a couple of 3D printed ones that are very good mind.
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Buzzard on February 12, 2017, 11:46:32 AM
And I've still got a couple of ATM kits that are half built...
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: njee20 on February 12, 2017, 11:51:09 AM
Never found any decals for my kit ones - did ATM do them? The wagons are so filthy I couldn't be bothered to get some proper ones made up!
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Buzzard on February 12, 2017, 12:32:05 PM
PM sent
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: CaleyDave on February 12, 2017, 12:44:20 PM
Wonderful! Would welcome a couple of these.

Was considering buying the 3D printed ones but admittedly I was hoping some one would pick it up RTR.

Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Ben A on February 12, 2017, 05:22:38 PM

Hello all,

I am delighted at this news and will want a few.  With the Revolution KFAs and Dapol FEA-Bs and Megafrets an realistically varied Freightliner train is achievable.

The real missing link for Freightliner remains the FSA/FTA sets, but these are harder to justify as they are less visually distinctive, though they would be very useful for RfD and Freightliner intermodal modelling.

cheers

Ben A.
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: jpendle on February 12, 2017, 05:25:33 PM
Fantastic!!

I'll be looking at buying a few of these.

John P
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Smiffy on February 12, 2017, 10:23:36 PM
Good news, despite having a few of the ATM kits made up would like some of these especially if really dirty is an option.
Have Dapol been asked if they have/had any to shrink their OO version, would hate to see duplication raise its head again.
Regards
Iain
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: njee20 on February 13, 2017, 03:36:56 AM
Arran from C=Rail posted this (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=36462.0;topicseen), but his thread got closed as a duplicate! A bit of info in there.
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Graham on February 13, 2017, 07:20:47 AM
look forward to getting some of these :)
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: StufromEGDL on February 13, 2017, 07:44:20 AM
hi Arran,

Looking forward to these.
As others have asked, will you be offering weathered versions??

Will there be any info available at Glasgow to expand on what you have said in the other thread. ( which should have been merged with this rather than just closed as it had manufacturers details in it...)

[mod]Manufacturers details posted by a company without authorisation from the forum Admin, that's why it was closed as it's not fair on our paying advertisers[/mod]

See you at the SECC?

Later,
Stu from EGDL.
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: njee20 on February 13, 2017, 11:10:40 AM
I pointed out the other day that a manufacturer was anonymously posting links to sell their product, which was fine, but a different manufacturer can't provide some useful info on a forthcoming product which has no impact on any advertiser? ???
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Sprintex on February 13, 2017, 01:21:44 PM
It was fine because Tank was aware of it and happy with it ;)

No manufacturer or retailer should be advertising their products here without Admin consent.


Paul
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: njee20 on February 13, 2017, 01:44:22 PM
I don't want this to become another "bash the mod" thread, but to me it seems a crying shame that a manufacturer can't come on here to tell us about their product without having sought permission first. I get it if they're actively selling, but this is a product announcement a year off, and one which will interest a number of people.

It's a sure fire way to drive people away from the forum.
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Ollie3440 on February 13, 2017, 04:10:42 PM
Afternoon all,

Well this is certainly something good I would be interested in! I imagine all three variants offered will find their way onto a layout that has yet to be built and it will be interesting to compare them to my pair of ATM ones.

Cheers

Ollie
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Steamie+ on February 16, 2017, 06:31:54 AM
Quote from: njee20 on February 13, 2017, 01:44:22 PM
I don't want this to become another "bash the mod" thread, but to me it seems a crying shame that a manufacturer can't come on here to tell us about their product without having sought permission first. I get it if they're actively selling, but this is a product announcement a year off, and one which will interest a number of people.

It's a sure fire way to drive people away from the forum.

I don't see how that will drive people away really and the OP/ manufacturer did say they would be taking pre-orders at a special price, so in a way he was selling wasn't he.    :) :)
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: njee20 on February 16, 2017, 07:26:27 AM
There is a dominant model railway forum in the UK, where manufacturers, retailers etc have a reasonable presence. This is a tiny forum in comparison, and people regularly moan that Dave Jones and others who are very active on RMWeb are not visible here.

With some outwardly draconian moderation (it wasn't justified until asked) they risk alienating the very people that members moan aren't visible. Will Arran bother to post again next time there's a release? I read the information on RMWeb, is it worth his trouble? That in turn will irritate the membership base, who will leave. Traffic is already pretty steady here, I'd not be wanting it to drop.

Maybe we need a 4,952nd sub forum for illicit press-releases or something.

We're spoiled with Ben and Mike, who are fantastic with Revolution, and I do understand that there are paid advertisers, which is why I think astroturfing is wrong. If retailers wish to link to their products I think it should be obvious who they are. However I would absolutely encourage the sort of press-release product announcements from Arran, I really don't understand why that is a problem.   
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Steamie+ on February 16, 2017, 07:51:13 AM
Quote from: njee20 on February 16, 2017, 07:26:27 AM
There is a dominant model railway forum in the UK, where manufacturers, retailers etc have a reasonable presence. This is a tiny forum in comparison, and people regularly moan that Dave Jones and others who are very active on RMWeb are not visible here.

With some outwardly draconian moderation (it wasn't justified until asked) they risk alienating the very people that members moan aren't visible. Will Arran bother to post again next time there's a release? I read the information on RMWeb, is it worth his trouble? That in turn will irritate the membership base, who will leave. Traffic is already pretty steady here, I'd not be wanting it to drop.

Maybe we need a 4,952nd sub forum for illicit press-releases or something.

We're spoiled with Ben and Mike, who are fantastic with Revolution, and I do understand that there are paid advertisers, which is why I think astroturfing is wrong. If retailers wish to link to their products I think it should be obvious who they are. However I would absolutely encourage the sort of press-release product announcements from Arran, I really don't understand why that is a problem.

Sorry njee20 it seems you have a problem with the forum, i don't see what's wrong with having the mods do their thankless unpaid job, if there wasn't any mods this forum would be a free for all to say what ever they what and that includes the bad language that some people can come out with, don't get me wrong i can swear has good has the best of them, but choose not to on a family forum or with people who are the same.

Please don't think i am having a go at you njee20, i am not, but rules are rules and they are there for all to see.                  Happy Modelling.     :) :) :)
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: njee20 on February 16, 2017, 08:20:57 AM
I'm a member here, and post a reasonable amount, I clearly don't have a problem with it. I'm first to defend the mods (although I find some decisions curious), and have done recently. I just don't understand why this is an issue. I'm not looking for an argument, I'm genuinely curious. It seems it's very much in the interest of the membership base.

Not sure of the relevance of swearing, but I'd hope the mods aren't manually deleting swear words, rather a filter does that! I know that the common phrase that rhymes with "muddy bell' gets censored, which amuses me.
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Steamie+ on February 16, 2017, 08:30:29 AM
Quote from: njee20 on February 16, 2017, 08:20:57 AM
I'm a member here, and post a reasonable amount, I clearly don't have a problem with it. I'm first to defend the mods (although I find some decisions curious), and have done recently. I just don't understand why this is an issue. I'm not looking for an argument, I'm genuinely curious. It seems it's very much in the interest of the membership base.

Not sure of the relevance of swearing, but I'd hope the mods aren't manually deleting swear words, rather a filter does that! I know that the common phrase that rhymes with "muddy bell' gets censored, which amuses me.

I have great respect for all members on this forum and the relevance of the swearing is that it is unacceptable on a family forum and i know to my knowledge you haven't swore, (I don't think) lol, other forums will allow some swearing which i don't agree with, has for "muddy bell" nothing wrong with that.

And arguing is the last thing i need njee20 or want has well.    Happy Modelling.      :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Bealman on February 16, 2017, 08:34:05 AM
As I have stated before on the forum, it is not the intention of the mods to alienate anyone, rather the opposite.

As to filtering of swear words, there is a filter which has actually censored a recent post of mine, even though it is shown on billboards all around NSW.

However, if an offensive word does slip through the net, we will most certainly remove it.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: njee20 on February 16, 2017, 09:02:35 AM
Quote from: Steamie+ on February 16, 2017, 08:30:29 AM
the relevance of the swearing is that it is unacceptable on a family forum and i know to my knowledge you haven't swore, (I don't think) lol, other forums will allow some swearing which i don't agree with, has for "muddy bell" nothing wrong with that.

The thing that amuses me is that Mumsnet, arguably the most "family friendly" of all has absolutely no swear filter, and half the usernames would make a sailor blush, let alone the posts!

QuoteAs I have stated before on the forum, it is not the intention of the mods to alienate anyone, rather the opposite.

I would hope for nothing less, and I'm not sure I've accused you (as the forum) of alienating anyone per se, I'm genuinely just trying to understand the rationale here, in this example, not get into the specifics of swear filters and the thankless work you guys do. What detriment is there to the advertisers of posts such as Arran's? I don't know how many places he posted it, but potentially only a couple, I'd have thought you'd embrace it?
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Bealman on February 16, 2017, 09:08:21 AM
Let's get back on topic.
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Sprintex on February 16, 2017, 09:25:48 AM
Let's dispel a few myths here shall we?

The Moderators on here do NOT do as they please with regard to editing or deleting posts, we are all answerable to Chris (Tank) who owns the forum and makes the rules. We are here to help him uphold those rules, and he is always mindful to make sure we stick to his guidelines, at times reversing a decision made by a Moderator if he feels it has been heavy-handed. In cases like this one the post by Arran was clearly advertising a new product (which is against the forum rules) by his own company, so the thread is closed and Chris notified so he can contact the member involved and make a decision. This is in fairness to the honest people who contribute financially to the upkeep of the forum in return for being allowed to advertise, the Traders who have their username in green. Why should they pay if we then allow other companies to come along and advertise for free without helping to keep the forum going? It's different sometimes when it's one person making something available in small numbers to help forum members out, that is when Chris is flexible and is willing to let adverts go on the basis that maybe that person makes some small one-off contribution to forum funds out of the meagre profit they may make, if they make anything at all. It is HIS forum though so it's his decision, no one else's.

On the subject of swearing yes there is a filter that will replace most swear words with a "censored" smiley, but unfortunately we have a small but determined portion of the membership that continually think it's clever of them to get around it by replacing characters with punctuation - '@' instead of an 'a', "!" instead of an "i" , or just replacing letters with '*'. None of this is acceptable, it is just not needed on a model railway forum, especially one that encourages youngsters to join in. And yes we are well aware some young people know more swear words than we do, but we need to set an example.

Finally, continual arguing and protesting about the rules in threads like this does nothing for the harmony of the forum, and takes the emphasis away from the subject, probably much to the annoyance of the OP in many cases! Chris is quite clear on this - if you have a problem with a post, the rules, or the way something has been done either use the 'Report to Moderator' link at the bottom of the post, which will notify the whole team that a report has been made (and Chris does monitor this closely), or send him a PM directly. Bitching on the open forum is just not helpful to anyone.


Paul
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Steamie+ on February 16, 2017, 10:27:47 AM
Thank you Paul.    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Skyline2uk on February 16, 2017, 12:30:49 PM
In an effort to expand my knowledge; are these wagons Chunnel cleared?

It would seem to me that the main aim of them is to bring previously out of gauge containers into UK loading gauge and as such taking them through the tunnel would be logical?

Sorry for the daft question!

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: acko22 on February 16, 2017, 12:52:04 PM
From what I read here:

http://www.ltsv.com/w_profile_055.php (http://www.ltsv.com/w_profile_055.php)

They are designed to so they can be used in the tunnel but rarely did.
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Skyline2uk on February 16, 2017, 01:04:59 PM
Quote from: acko22 on February 16, 2017, 12:52:04 PM
From what I read here:

http://www.ltsv.com/w_profile_055.php (http://www.ltsv.com/w_profile_055.php)

They are designed to so they can be used in the tunnel but rarely did.

Thanks acko, interesting read.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Arran on February 17, 2017, 09:38:57 PM
HI All

Well I suppose the rules are  the rules, it might be an idea to have a suppliers section that new posts can be vetted or approved.

=C=Rail= was started because I wanted N gauge containers for the trains on Law junction and one thing led to another.

If its OK I will keep you informed here about progress with the cads which will be March some time.

Regards Arran
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: jpendle on February 18, 2017, 01:51:29 AM
I, for one, welcome announcements on the forum, especially when its a model that I want.

Assuming the mods agree I would welcome more updates as and when they are available.

Regards,

John P
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: njee20 on February 18, 2017, 03:06:55 AM
Yep, definitely like to see progress on this.
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Greybeema on February 18, 2017, 09:10:27 AM
Yup I'm interested in progress on these as well.. 
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Arran on March 11, 2017, 05:38:03 PM
HI All

And So it begins with the designs  :headbutt: with alteration and alteration and alterations till MR Fussy is happy.

Regards Arran
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: njee20 on March 11, 2017, 06:34:40 PM
Looks a great start to me!
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: koyli55002 on March 11, 2017, 07:55:11 PM
Looking marvellous ....
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Smiffy on March 11, 2017, 08:50:46 PM
Very nice
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Graham on March 11, 2017, 09:05:43 PM
Looking good,  :)
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: alibuchan on March 26, 2017, 09:37:54 AM
They have now gone up on the website for pre order.

http://www.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=18_61 (http://www.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=18_61)

£25 for the empty wagon seems like a cracking price. Looks like I will definitely be getting the wallet out for a few especially at that price, or £31 loaded with a container.

Alistair
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: koyli55002 on March 26, 2017, 09:43:23 AM
I agree - price is MORE than favourable !
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Busybee on March 26, 2017, 09:54:56 AM
Great, do we pay up front on ordering?
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: kiwi1941 on March 26, 2017, 10:27:26 AM
Quote from: alibuchan on March 26, 2017, 09:37:54 AM
They have now gone up on the website for pre order.

http://www.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=18_61 (http://www.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=18_61)

£25 for the empty wagon seems like a cracking price. Looks like I will definitely be getting the wallet out for a few especially at that price, or £31 loaded with a container.

Alistair

Unfortunately only payment via Paypal
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: PaulCheffus on March 26, 2017, 10:30:18 AM
Quote from: kiwi1941 on March 26, 2017, 10:27:26 AM
Quote from: alibuchan on March 26, 2017, 09:37:54 AM
They have now gone up on the website for pre order.

http://www.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=18_61 (http://www.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=18_61)

£25 for the empty wagon seems like a cracking price. Looks like I will definitely be getting the wallet out for a few especially at that price, or £31 loaded with a container.

Alistair

Unfortunately only payment via Paypal

Hi

You can pay through PayPal without having an account and it means the website doesn't have to worry about the security of taking payments.

I don't see an issue.

Cheers

Paul
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: kiwi1941 on March 26, 2017, 10:43:32 AM

Quote
Unfortunately only payment via Paypal
Quote
Hi
You can pay through PayPal without having an account and it means the website doesn't have to worry about the security of taking payments.
I don't see an issue. Cheers Paul

I can, they refuse to allow me to use the credit/debit card facility having blocked my only paypal account. Incompetence! Do you want the complete story?
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: PaulCheffus on March 26, 2017, 11:39:12 AM
Quote from: kiwi1941 on March 26, 2017, 10:43:32 AM

Quote
Unfortunately only payment via Paypal
Quote
Hi
You can pay through PayPal without having an account and it means the website doesn't have to worry about the security of taking payments.
I don't see an issue. Cheers Paul

I can, they refuse to allow me to use the credit/debit card facility having blocked my only paypal account. Incompetence! Do you want the complete story?

Hi

Ah I can see how that would be a problem. Might be worth emailing Arran to see if there is a way around this.

Cheers

Paul
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: jpendle on March 26, 2017, 06:13:32 PM
Just pre-ordered 2 loaded wagons, couldn't resist.

John P
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: njee20 on March 26, 2017, 06:45:00 PM
I really like my 3D printed ones, but that's a good price!
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Graham on May 17, 2018, 08:22:53 AM
Has anyone heard how the production of these units is progressing. I have an order in for some but have not heard anything for almost 12mths.

cheers
Graham
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: njee20 on May 17, 2018, 10:45:45 AM
Nope, was wondering that the other day actually. Charlie and Arran are probably more active on RMWeb, but haven't noticed anything. I must get around to putting decals on my printed ones! :doh:
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: StufromEGDL on May 17, 2018, 11:28:00 AM
Hi Gang,

I did ask this very question on the dedicatex thread over on RMWeb approx 3-4 weeks ago but received no reply. On the original timescales, we should have seen something tangible by now.
I'm sure that Arran has better things to do than to respond to every request for information...but the stony silence here and on RMWeb is not great.

Later,
Stu from EGDL.
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Ben A on May 17, 2018, 04:25:59 PM

Hi all,

My understanding is that this is a C-Rail model, so just Arran, and I understand it is due to go for tooling very soon.

Cheers

Ben A.
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Graham on May 17, 2018, 10:54:49 PM
hi all,

Had a reply from Arran, it confirms Ben A's post.

cheers
Graham
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Arran on October 31, 2018, 03:24:18 PM
HI All

Its been a haul doing this But I hope to have plastic samples by Warley show along with the N Gauge tank production, Now mind the word HOPE.

The lesson in all this for me is Only announce the product once its at the sample stage, like i did with the tanks.

Regards Arran
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Graham on October 31, 2018, 08:23:53 PM
good news Arran, hopefully will be making it to Warley as I will be back in the UK so will pop along and say hello.
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 22, 2019, 12:25:58 PM
Hello all

May I ask if a sample was available at Warley in November? And / or what the latest status is on this wagon?

Thanks in advance

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: alibuchan on January 22, 2019, 12:29:30 PM
There was a reply on RMWeb that included an ep sample shown back in November. Aaron said on the 17/1, that the second ep decorated samples are due soon, hopefully.

(https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/119857-crail-intermodal-n-gauge-pocket-wagon/page-2#entry3439499 (https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/119857-crail-intermodal-n-gauge-pocket-wagon/page-2#entry3439499))
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 22, 2019, 12:38:15 PM
 :thankyousign: @alibuchan (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1383)

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Merrylee on February 04, 2019, 09:26:37 PM
Hopefully Arran will have some painted samples for Model Rail Scotland.

Ron
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: njee20 on February 04, 2019, 09:42:06 PM
Still can't decide on these. They look good, but my MH Models 3D printed ones also look excellent, and I'm not sure I can really justify replacing them!
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Skyline2uk on April 14, 2019, 09:10:01 PM
Well after much dithering on my part I have now stumped up the redies for three of these.

Couldn't resist having them in a train with Revolutions wagons.

My "on order" list grows ever longer!

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Merrylee on July 03, 2019, 11:41:28 PM
Anybody heard any news about these.

Ron
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: RailGooner on July 03, 2019, 11:55:10 PM
 :unimpressed: I got all excited then Ron ( @Merrylee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5969) )! :D
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Graham on July 04, 2019, 01:12:57 AM
Quote from: RailGooner on July 03, 2019, 11:55:10 PM
:unimpressed: I got all excited then Ron ( @Merrylee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5969) )! :D
me too, but then all good things come to those who wait, just look at the deliveries from Revolution.
cheers
Graham
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: acko22 on July 04, 2019, 01:46:24 AM
Hi all,

At DEMU a the start of last month there was painted samples on display, and they were really nice but I know Arran wants to fettle a few things to improve them.
Cheers

Gareth
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: SteveB1510 on July 04, 2019, 10:17:49 PM
Arran had the 3 samples running on Law at the Perth show last weekend and very nice they look too.  They'll certainly be well worth the wait.
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: njee20 on July 04, 2019, 11:21:08 PM
Was that not the PCA tankers...? Or did he have both?
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Merrylee on July 05, 2019, 12:01:24 AM
Sounds good and things seem to be moving along.

A few wee updates from Arran now and then wouldn't go a miss.

Ron
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: njee20 on July 05, 2019, 07:13:43 AM
He has posted updates on RMWeb a few times.
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: SteveB1510 on July 05, 2019, 07:49:33 AM
Quote from: njee20 on July 04, 2019, 11:21:08 PM
Was that not the PCA tankers...? Or did he have both?

He had both running on the layout at various times on the Sunday.  The KQAs were tagged onto the rear of a class 86 hauled Freightliner, while the PCAs were enjoying some luxury Deltic haulage!

The KQAs seemed to be running well with some of the new 40ft containers in them.  Definitely need sunglasses for the One box!

Steve
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Steven B on July 05, 2019, 08:48:00 AM
Quote from: Merrylee on July 05, 2019, 12:01:24 AM
A few wee updates from Arran now and then wouldn't go a miss.

I've seen a steady trickle of updates about the container wagons. Would you rather promises of updates that never happen or just steady progress towards something you can spend your money on?

Steven B.
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: RailGooner on July 05, 2019, 09:44:36 AM
Quote from: Steven B on July 05, 2019, 08:48:00 AM
Quote from: Merrylee on July 05, 2019, 12:01:24 AM
A few wee updates from Arran now and then wouldn't go a miss.

I've seen a steady trickle of updates about the container wagons. Would you rather promises of updates that never happen or just steady progress towards something you can spend your money on?

Steven B.

Why not steady progress and updates(!)? ???
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Graham on September 14, 2019, 04:17:36 AM
There is an update over on the other site for these here:

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/119857-crail-intermodal-n-gauge-pocket-wagon/page/2/ (https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/119857-crail-intermodal-n-gauge-pocket-wagon/page/2/)

think I will have to order another couple before the price rise

cheers
Graham
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: woodbury22uk on November 11, 2019, 10:03:40 AM
These are now being delivered.
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Vonzack on November 11, 2019, 10:16:46 AM
Welcome package waiting for me when I got home on Saturday with my KTAs, lovely looking wagons, well done C-Rail.
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Merrylee on November 11, 2019, 09:11:09 PM
Got mine today, yes sweet as a nut, look the business.
Well done Arran.

Ron
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Graham on November 11, 2019, 10:35:55 PM
hopefully mine are on their way.
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Skyline2uk on November 14, 2019, 06:54:38 PM
Came home to a pleasant surprise (wondered how far down the list I would be being a "W") of my three wagons today.

Not had a chance to play inspect them yet, but sturdy packaging and certainly look like the wagons they should be!

Will sling them behind something triple grey and report findings at my next opportunity.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: kirky on November 14, 2019, 07:15:16 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on November 14, 2019, 06:54:38 PM
Came home to a pleasant surprise (wondered how far down the list I would be being a "W") of my three wagons today.

Not had a chance to play inspect them yet, but sturdy packaging and certainly look like the wagons they should be!

Will sling them behind something triple grey and report findings at my next opportunity.

Skyline2uk
I havent got mine yet and I'm an 'M'.  :(
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Merrylee on November 14, 2019, 07:27:00 PM
i'm An 'M' and i got mine.

I think they must be going out on order of when purchased.

I've still got a second order to receive as i pre ordered 2 empty ones when first advertised and a further 2 a year later with the containers.

Ron
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: kirky on November 14, 2019, 09:48:54 PM
Quote from: Merrylee on November 14, 2019, 07:27:00 PM
i'm An 'M' and i got mine.

I think they must be going out on order of when purchased.

I've still got a second order to receive as i pre ordered 2 empty ones when first advertised and a further 2 a year later with the containers.

Ron

Yes I didn't order mine until September, so I think it must be in order of orders.
cheers
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: jpendle on November 14, 2019, 10:25:41 PM
I know mine are on  the way because I got an email from Arran showing the parcel with my address on it!

This was because right at the last minute I remembered that my address had changed since I placed my order. I email Arran who retrieved my parcel from the Post and readdressed it. This was all done over a couple of hours last week.

Absolutely brilliant customer service.

Regards,

John P
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Pete @ EGLM on November 14, 2019, 10:53:49 PM
Ordered mine last week, they arrived today. Very impressive wagons...

Pete @ EGLM
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Graham on November 14, 2019, 11:30:18 PM
my order was over 2yrs ago, hopefully they are on their way.
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: cutting42 on November 15, 2019, 02:27:34 PM
Got my two with containers on Wednesday, very lovely indeed. I had ordered a couple of years ago as well.
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Merrylee on November 16, 2019, 09:53:51 PM
I picked up a further 2 at Falkirk model rail show today.
Were only a couple of quid dearer than the pre order price.
Got six now.
Ron
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: kirky on November 17, 2019, 07:42:13 AM
Mine arrived by Royal Mail at 5pm yesterday(Saturday) the post person apologised for the lateness in the day.
The wagons look lovely but I wonder why the boxes are so long?
Cheers
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Skyline2uk on November 17, 2019, 08:27:46 AM
Quote from: kirky on November 17, 2019, 07:42:13 AM
Mine arrived by Royal Mail at 5pm yesterday(Saturday) the post person apologised for the lateness in the day.
The wagons look lovely but I wonder why the boxes are so long?
Cheers

Slightly curious about this myself. I wondered if this was the closest "standard" size box that was available. It does at least provide room for a lot of foam protection.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Merrylee on November 17, 2019, 08:36:03 AM
Yes thought that myself, maybe its to suit the Realtrack triple PCA cement wagons which the length would be perfect.

Ron
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Skyline2uk on November 18, 2019, 07:49:23 PM
So tonight have had a good look at my three as well as a run / play.

Most impressed and I feel they represent very good value for money. They are an imposing wagon and run perfectly (on Kato track) being pulled and propelled, loaded and unloaded.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/84/1081-181119194540.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=84051)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/84/1081-181119194632.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=84052)

I gave them my favourite traction for the occasion.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/sdab2fwbpiegadk/Video%2018-11-2019%2C%2017%2033%2056.mov?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/sdab2fwbpiegadk/Video%2018-11-2019%2C%2017%2033%2056.mov?dl=0)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ov05zq5tp4o4r6m/Video%2018-11-2019%2C%2017%2032%2014.mov?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/ov05zq5tp4o4r6m/Video%2018-11-2019%2C%2017%2032%2014.mov?dl=0)

It's a good spell of releases for the "modern" n gauger at the moment  :thumbsup:

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: kirky on November 18, 2019, 08:49:21 PM
Thanks for that @Skyline2uk (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1081)
What radii are the curves you used in the video?

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Skyline2uk on November 18, 2019, 10:40:35 PM
Quote from: kirky on November 18, 2019, 08:49:21 PM
Thanks for that @Skyline2uk (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1081)
What radii are the curves you used in the video?

Cheers
Kirky

Hi Kirky

Not able to give exact measurements atm, but they may be online; the set in question is Kato "M1".

Cheers

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: kirky on November 19, 2019, 04:27:51 PM
Thanks @Skyline2uk (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1081)
This http://www.newhallstation.com/estore/product_info.php?products_id=905 (http://www.newhallstation.com/estore/product_info.php?products_id=905) seems to imply 12 3/8 inch radius curves which isnt particulalry tight. However, thats good enough for my (admiteddly seflish) purposes - which is to know if theyll go round Northallerton easily enough. We have 12 inch minimum curves so I'm guessimng theyll be fine. The layout is in storage at the moment so I cant test em.
Thanks again.
Kirky
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Graham on November 21, 2019, 04:08:42 AM
mine arrived this afternoon, well done Arran they look stunning models. hopefully will get to run them over the weekend.
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: 87023velocity on November 21, 2019, 01:56:20 PM
My 2 arrived, 1 loaded, 1 empty. Stunning models, had them running round the layout mixed into a long Intermodal rake and they ran perfectly. Great work Arran, looking forward to the FSA/FTAs!
Heres a couple of pics posed on the layout.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/84/6577-211119135142.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=84194)


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/84/6577-211119135325.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=84195)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/84/6577-211119135429.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=84196)
Just need some suitable weathering!

Cheers

Simon
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: Western Exile on November 21, 2019, 02:33:18 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on November 18, 2019, 10:40:35 PM
Quote from: kirky on November 18, 2019, 08:49:21 PM
Thanks for that @Skyline2uk (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1081)
What radii are the curves you used in the video?

Cheers
Kirky

Hi Kirky

Not able to give exact measurements atm, but they may be online; the set in question is Kato "M1".

Cheers

Skyline2uk

Set M1 has 315mm radius curves.
Title: Re: KTA/KQA container wagon by C-Rail-Intermodal
Post by: JPTRAIN on November 22, 2019, 05:43:53 PM
Ordered as a bit of future provision for my layout ideas, they look fantastic I can't wait to give them a test drive tomorrow!

JPTRAIN